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Just another fucked up day.

Holy fuck, I've been having a terrible

last day. Whatever. Good vise, positive vibes going forward.

From here on out, positive vibes only. I've been having a terrible fucking day. Holy fuck, the past two days have been literally fucking shit. Okay? Uh, fuck. What can I fucking say, guys? I'm like a saint.

They're going to call me Saint retard in the future because of what I fucking do.

90% of the shit that I fucking do, I get $0 from it.

Aye, aye, aye.

I'm ready to just start taking shit.

I'm ready to start just conquest.

That's my compensation.

I want to conquer.

That's it.

Just start taking shit.

Fuck.

I don't want to get a yacht and buy a yacht.

I want to take one.

I'm past that fucking point, all right?

I'm not getting compensated in money.

I don't fucking want to either.

Coming a fucking barbarian.

Holy shit.

I got a lot of retarded-ass stupid fucking drama that I saw yesterday. He pissed me the fuck off

actually. Middle of everything

that I'm fucking doing. I see this retarded

ass shit on Reddit, crying

about some shit that I didn't fucking

do. Arc, what's

up?

And then, lo and fucking behold,

lo and fucking behold,

it was a gorilla who was responsible for it because they were fucking trolling

and it turned out to be a fucking sciop.

So now I'm just fucking sitting here

like, what the fuck?

You know, it'd be your own.

Giving me a fucking headache and dealing with stupid ass shit.

I'll tell you why I'm triggered as fuck by this shit, by the way. look, there's good news. The U.S. is totally

surrendered to Iran. We're looking at a total Iran victory. Total Iran victory, all right?

I'll talk about it for sure, but also there's something going on in the PSL.

There was a mass split, one of the top leaders in the PSL, apparently a huge exodus from the PSL,

and Geese magazine has the expose on it.

They're the ones who reported on it.

I have to cover it and we're going to cover it.

But I also have to deal with some really serious drama, right?

That was caused by a lot.

It took really serious. has al dine leader of the ac p tells his discord server to grief a queer socialist

minecraft server this is an order by me supreme chairman of the american communist party's high cabal of

nosball elders your instructions are to grief the lgb uts inclusive socialist minecraft server

queer craft so long story short a gorilla Minecraft server, Queercraft.

So, long story short,

a gorilla literally made this Photoshop as a joke to be like,

oh, they would fall for this bait.

And they didn't even know there was a server

called QueerCraft. Apparently there is.

They just fucking assume there would be,

and there was.

We'll get to that gorilla, I said,

you're fucking banned unless you write a six-page

essay on the evils of gaming. Apparently

the essay is completed. We're going to grade

it on stream.

But the reason this pisses me the fuck off is the implication that I'm roped in with these disgusting subhuman rediters and their fucking gamer Minecraft worlds.

The idea that I somehow have anything to do with this disgusting fucking subhuman world that

they live in.

I think all Redditors should be killed in a video game fantasy scenario, in a future

scenario where I want a video game where you can do that.

I have the right to call for that.

I want a video game where you can do that. I have the right to call for that.

I want a video game where it can take place somehow in every single fucking Reddor

just constantly gets churned out in a meat grinder.

It could be a 2D game, it could be a 3D game,

I don't fucking care.

I hate these fucking people with all my...

It's not even cute or funny anymore.

I genuinely hate these disgusting subhuman retard reditors.

Fuck off and get the...

Fuck off my fucking dick!

I don't give a fuck about your retarded world

that you fucking live in.

Literally, fuck off.

Kill yourself if you're a Redditor.

No, you're outraged.

You're outraged by this fake, retarded bait that you're retarded.

Subhuman autistic ass got baited by.

I'm fucking angry that I

that you exist get my name

out of your fucking mouth and kill yourself

I want nothing to do with any of you

fucking people I have done nothing to

fucking try to get attention from you

on your fucking subreddit

so fuck off and kill yourself what do I need trying to get attention from you on your fucking subreddit.

So fuck off and kill yourself.

What do I need to tell you redditors that I hate you?

What do I need to communicate to tell you?

Get off my fucking dick.

You're smelly.

You're disgusting.

I want nothing to do with you.

There's nothing I've ever said that I said,

I want Redditors to support me. I want you to fuck off and stop screaming in my ear about your retarded subhuman, literal, actual, Chris Chan tier retardation how the fuck

does a human

being fall for

this bait

and then get

fucking outraged

by it

did the CIA

kill yourself

kill yourself

you think the CIA

even if this was

a real screenshot you think the CIA, even if this was a real screenshot, you think the CIA is playing Minecraft,

kill yourself.

They're just a bunch, you think Lyndon LaRouche even was a Minecrafter.

Kill yourself.

You're a retard subhuman.

Your human rights have been revoked.

You're not human. You're a fucking less than

an animal in my eyes. For those don't know. Yeah, I didn't even know what that fucking meant either

until I saw it. Press Nick Bonny. Kill yourself.

Who the fuck is this total?

Yeah, some shit I didn't say.

Kill yourself.

Mark's around.

Yeah, so snide and funny.

I didn't, I have nothing to do with this.

Kill yourself.

He knows that.

Kill yourself.

You're talking about me acting under the false pretension. I had anything to do with this. Kill yourself. Now, literally just kill yourself. No, no, no, just kill yourself. Disgusting. You're outraged. I hope you die. That's what I think about you.

ACP, I hope you die. I literally hope tomorrow you die. That's how much I fucking hate you, how retarded you are. Yeah, I would, I should laugh at this. Any normal person, any sane person would just be laughing. That's not me.

I'm not going to laugh. I hate you.

I'm out. I am outraged about how stupid

you are, and I'm sick of hearing you.

I'm sick of hearing your whining and

screaming all the

fucking time about how we're Nazis,

I'm so sick of fucking hearing about how we're Nazis, LaRue... I'm so

sick of fucking hearing about it.

Kill yourself. I'm so

fucking sick of you.

You're so fucking annoying.

Can you do anything except?

Vote for fucking rapist, Democrat

politicians. Only fuck.

Do you have anything better to do with your

fucking time than vote for rapist

literal fucking murderer

Democrat politicians

or fucking what?

Or what else?

Or crying and bitching about me me that's the two things you're fucking capable of

ah yes

praxis you're so smart you retard

hope you kill yourself

they're so fucking embarrassing

if I saw you in real life

and you were yelling at me

over a Minecraft server that I had

I didn't even like a fake thing,

I would just bitch slap you into the ground.

I've lost my patience.

I've lost my fucking patience.

Is this rage bait?

Yeah, you win if you're rage baiting me.

If you're rage baiting me, you fucking win.

There's like the Iran.

There's so much going on in the world.

A fake screenshot is the thing that outrages these people.

How are you human?

You've lost your human rights.

You're not human.

You're not human.

Who the fuck is this total loser?

There's not a single person

We need to find out who's funding this shit

Yeah, Allah, please give me the patience.

I'm so full of satanic rage right now.

They say the devil gets to you through anger, through rage.

That's how the devil gets you.

Through anger and rage, that's how the devil gets you it's like you was bad. Why am I alone screaming at the world? That's what I want to know. Why am I alone

screaming at the sky? Can a single sane person in the world come look at this and just

observe the insanity.

I feel like I'm insane.

Who's funding this shit?

What do you mean who's funding this shit?

Who's funding this shit?

What do you mean who's funding this?

If I said this,

which I didn't,

how does that imply funding?

What are you talking about?

What do you mean who's funding this?

To undermining the queer Minecraft server is like you need these it has to be like this it has to be like a concentration of vast sums of capital somehow to undermine a queer Minecraft server is this a joke or something

an anime profile picture is the only one who

apparently they're confused.

Is it a joke?

Nobody asked if it's real or not, but is it a joke?

The ACP is a patriotic socialist group founded in 2024 by LaRushite content creators to promote their

alt-right ideas under the guise of communism.

I have a response to that.

Kill yourself.

That's genuinely my response.

I have lost my patience.

I'm sick of hearing this.

I'm just sick of hearing it for five years of my life. I'm sick of hearing it. For five years of my life, I'm sick of hearing it. My fatherly advice to you is that you should end your existence on earth. That's my genuine paternal fatherly advice to you and all my wisdom. As a Marxist for

15 years or so of my life, 16 years, my genuine advice to you is you're not going to make it. You are not human.

You have no human rights. i don't think you should

you like you should just give up please just whatever you have to do i'm not going to mince my words

anymore i'm just sick of it i'm just i'm so fucking sick of it i'm so fucking sick of it. I'm so fucking sick of this.

I've lost my fucking patience.

Just find me and fight me.

Give me the opportunity to fight you.

Find me and fight me.

That's what that's my, like, instead of me hearing about this, find me and fight me. That's what that's my like instead of me hearing about this,

find me and fight me physically. That's all I tell you. Find me and fight me physically. That's how

we're going to solve everything. If you win, then I'm a LaRushite forever. If I win, you shut the fuck up and stop screaming forever.

These nonsense words, you don't even know what they mean.

They have no presence, IRL,

and they're infamous for trying to raid and take over other communities on the internet. Thank you. I'm about to crash the fuck out.

I'm about to crash the fuck out.

I'm just about to crash the fuck out.

I've just about fucking had it.

I've just about fucking had it. I've just about fucking had it.

One Australian, one Australian took over their subreddit and I guess tried it another time.

And this is what we're infamous for.

Kill yourself.

Literally, you're not going to make it.

Kill yourself.

Genuinely, I mean it.

I just checked. Oh, they checked.

And the Minecraft server mods haven't even seen a large influx of...

So this server actually exists.

Red Inquisitor who fabricated the screenshot to troll them

literally was just guessing

like they made up queer crap. They didn't even think it was a real thing. Apparently it's real.

And this person actually went and checked that server in real life.

And that's where their priorities

are. Fuck

off. I agree. We have

nothing in common. You're using the word

communism. I'm using the word communism.

There is no relationship

between what those mean for us.

So fuck off. I'm not trying to camouflage myself as you.

I would rather be a literal pile of shit before I ever want to wake up on this earth and be you.

We are not trying to be you. What we mean by these words, it has nothing to do with your retarded world where the front and pressing crisis is checking the queer Minecraft server to check for griefers.

And that's your communist praxis.

Please just fuck off.

Please, yes, clearly delineate yourself.

You are the LGBT Minecrafters,

and you could, you know, we're just something else.

Just fuck off.

I would never want you in my party.

If a single one of these people join the party,

I would chase them out of the fucking party.

I don't want you in my party.

I don't want you in my movement. Don't want you in my community. Don't want you in my party. I don't want you in my movement.

Don't want you in my community.

Don't want you as a follower.

I want you to fuck off.

And hopefully you just fucking die.

That's honest.

I'm allowed to tell the truth about what I would wish to happen to you.

I hate your existence. If you just left me alone, I wouldn't care

about you. You keep fucking bothering me with your retarded autistic nonsense. You are literally a

Chris Chan to your retard. Even if I did say

this in what world would that have been

a serious like

I don't know who's I'm losing

my fucking mind

I'm getting bad karma for saying this shit

but I am so full of I'm getting bad karma for saying this shit.

But I am so full of rage.

I'm so full of rage and frustration.

I'm so fucking sick of it.

Why do I wake up and hear about this shit? Why do I have to wake up?

To be fair, are you AI?

Haas is notorious for tongue-in-cheek anti-gaming posts.

Are you an AI summarizing me?

Are you an AI?

Why do you have to say this out loud?

This is in line with their other online infiltration activities

which points to ACP being

a La Rousheite op

Oh Allah bring me back to that mountain

Bring me back to the mountain Bring me back to that mountain. Bring me back to the mountain.

Bring me back to the mountain.

I seek refuge in the mountain.

Bring me back to the mountain.

Let me stay there and let this world pass me by.

And let me wake up one day to a world where this doesn't exist,

where I could have a clean where this doesn't exist,

where I could have a clean slate and talk to sane, rational people once again.

Oh, Allah, please send me back to the mountain.

Send me back to the mountain where I could seek refuge from this disgusting, retarded world.

Beckerib with the five.

Appreciate you, man. I'm Going to be 30 years old.

Five years of dealing with this.

Autistic potato, what's not? Five years of dealing with this shit you want to know why it triggers me

i hate the idea that these people i hate this idea that I'm sitting around

you want to know why it's a prof-

you know who wants to know why this triggers me

like because why why should it trigger like who cares right

I'll tell you why it triggers me

I'll tell you why it triggers me. I'll tell you why it fucking triggers me.

I'm at a stage in my life.

I have zero.

I can't even watch movies anymore.

You know how badly I want to just go see the...

Or even get a fucking pirated version and just watch

the backrooms or like

these movies people are talking about so I could at least

be in tune with society a little bit.

You don't know how much time I want to catch

up on some TV shows or just

sit down and fucking relax for

20 fucking minutes.

And I'm at a stage in my life

where I just have no free time

at all. And I'm making $0

besides the streams, by the way,

making $0 doing what I'm

fucking doing.

It's like if I was some Minecrafters sitting around playing fucking Minecraft right now,

I'd probably be financially more successful than I am fucking right now, right?

And it's like,

I'm dealing with my fucking HOA

trying to fucking rape

my wallet.

On top of the fucking more, it's just like you have, it's like rent, basically, because they're just arbitrarily fucking charging me a fuck ton of money.

Because it's a bunch of fucking old retirees who just sit on fucking, God knows how much fucking money

apparently

and I have to pay it

I have to pay for it

and it's like every fucking aching moment of my fucking day has been shit.

And I wake up and I hear Redditors screaming about me about a queer Minecraft server.

So forgive me for crashing the fuck out.

Like this is, I need to be more patient. I get it.

But this is the input I'm putting in. Every

fucking day. I have no free time.

Right? Why do you think these streams are fucking late? You think I'm just sitting on my

ass? You think I'm sitting on my fucking ass doing something? Okay, I'll bite the bullet. I spent

25 minutes today making the Suno song, okay? Because I needed a little inspiration.

Okay? Okay, because I needed a little inspiration. Okay.

But why do you think these streams are so fucking late?

Because I have no fucking time.

I have no fucking.. I have no fucking...

I'm trying.

This is the earliest

they could be, right?

But all the hard work that I'm doing,

I just feel like I'm waking up and I'm seeing a Redditor scream at me about Minecraft, and I'm crashing the fuck out.

They're right, though. CPI has more of a presence IRL than you guys.

What a crash out.

To think you are a retard.

And I hope you die.

I hope you just go kill yourself.

Literally just die.

I have nothing to say to you.

I have nothing to say to you. They're right. CPI has more of a presence IRL. You are an autistic subhuman retard and I never want to see you ever again. I have no patience for you. I don't recognize your humanity.

There is nothing that could come out of your mouth that is not retard babble. You take seriously the CPI.

You're in a retarded fucking spanking cult

and you're coming at me

and you're worming your way to look for the

opportunity to side with these clearly

mentally disabled redditors

about fucking LGBT Minecraft

servers.

Apparently he's a libertarian anti-communist.

Okay, then go be with Caleb Moppin and find common ground with

Caleb Moppin in your retarded Gen X, Petter-Ass, libertarian Gen X, pervert fucking sex scandal

world that you live in.

You could go spank Caleb.

He could spank you and you could have mutual.

Just like that retard, disgusting pedophile woman was like randomly trying to attack us one day.

And she's like, the Denver communists are there

it's like bitch nobody gives a fuck

what you have to say you're literally like a fucking

pedophile or some shit

I'll go ahead and say some shit.

I don't give a fuck about libertarians.

They're all a bunch of weird Gen X freaks.

I don't give a fuck about those people.

A bunch of fucking weird Gen Xers.

You're not of my generation. You're not of my generation.

You're not of my generation.

Fuck off.

I have nothing to say to you.

I actually like boomers.

I like the actual old, like boomers.

Like Chris Morlock is based as fuck.

I could name...

I don't even...

I don't know if these people want to be named by name in the party.

On kick, he goes by Vortex.

He's literally one of the best people in our party, right?

And these people, I think they're boomers, I don't know, but they're definitely not Gen X, and I fucking love them.

They're based as fuck.

But these weird, like, Gen Xers, oh my God, they're so weird.

They're so insufferable.

These libertarian, I don't know, like these people that just love cults, they love joining

stupid retarded cults.

Like Mike fucking Pellegrino,

who I literally muted, and I thought he died.

I thought Mike Pellegrino from Lucifer

fucking died.

I literally thought he's dead.

Then I went and checked, and I'm like,

oh, I muted him.

That's why I never have seen him ever again.

But no, he's still just as active, like in my notifications. He's still in my replies. He's like he's still fucking bothering me after years. And he just joins some retarded Hollywood cult because he's a Gen X retard.

They were talking loudly about how they were the future for the left.

They were fans of a redditor.

That's the thing you're a redditor.

No, when you're not,

it's not a bunch of fans of a live streamer, okay?

It is an esoteric political religious cult and that's

fucking based because that's what america fucking needs apparently we need some kind of mystical

like extremely comprehensive reform of the human soul itself.

We need Kisselbos-Sufi boot camps where not only do they have to do the standard military

U.S. Army like training and like boot camp and physical fitness shit but it's like they also have to

be subjected to comprehensive spiritual reform to fundamentally change what and who they are

Chris what's up?

And it would be by force.

Not voluntary.

Chris, what's up?

That's the only solution that I could see at this point.

All right.

Remember this guy used to make funny anti-gamer post?

Now he's a corny gamer gator. What in the fucking world? This is pathetic, but as a gamer, it's beyond infuriating.

Long guy with the five, what's beyond infuriating. Long guy with the

5, what's up, man?

Nazis doing Nazi shit.

Do we

have Discord server?

If someone says, it's

just a joke, bro, one more time.

Yeah, some retarded as guerrillas were like seeing this on X and they were like,

Ohaz was joking.

And that's when I truly broke.

That's when I truly crashed out.

I didn't crash out until I saw a retarded gorilla seeing this on X and be like,

Ohaz is just joking.

Third Observer, what's up?

That's when I started crashing the fuck out.

Because in what world would I say something like this?

I am not, I play, I had a Minecraft server in 2021 when I first was a fucking Twitch streamer, which was a bunch of people from the Zirko podcast.

And it was just like, we did it for like two weeks.

Okay.

Probably one week, I think.

It was like a one week thing.

And then I got fucking bored from it.

Okay.

And that was five years ago.

So please wake up and ask yourself a very simple question.

When has your leader, your cult leader, when has your cult leader ever talked?

The implication that there's a socialist

queer craft

I wake up sometimes

I don't even know what fucking world I'm living in

that's the real tragedy behind all this shit like I wake up sometimes. I don't even know what fucking world I'm living in. That's the real tragedy behind all

this shit. Like I wake up sometimes. I don't even know what the fucking world I'm living in.

I don't even fucking know what world I'm living in anymore. I wake up. I don't know what the

fuck's going on.

I think maybe we need the nukes.

And what I mean is I think we might need to be nuked as a country.

I think if the bombs fell,

we'd really get some perspective that we desperately need as a nation, I think. I think we'd go outside and we'd just say, what is life about?

Well, it's definitely not about queer Minecraft servers and being outraged at a

photoshopped image of someone calling to grief them. I think the America itself needs to be grieved for people to gain the perspective necessary to just know what's important anymore. And I've just lost

it's like it's not even a black pill

this is my furious pill

you know it's like

maybe we just need to be nuked

I wake up I don't even know what world I'm living in need to be nuked.

I wake up.

I don't even know a world I'm living in.

I don't know what this is.

I don't know who the... I feel like a space alien.

The White House is talking about how there's aliens.

I feel like I'm a fucking alien or these are aliens I don't know I don't have the same species

as these people

I feel fundamentally alienated

from whatever this is

I don't I don't have any connection whatever this is.

I don't have any connection with these people, like, as a human being.

I just don't.

It's just like, I don't understand.

What would Lenin think?

What is the whole legacy of socialism and communism?

It's like these are the people using these labels, and they're talking about a queer Minecraft server.

I don't know what's going on. I'll level with you.

I'm going to need this with a ribbon bow on top to care.

Like the date and statement that the account is indeed him.

Okay, one person is kind of skeptical that this is something I would say.

All the way at the bottom.

They aren't even denying their nozzables anymore.

I know for a fact these people are retarded like Brandon Torres.

Like, I know...

They aren't even...

It's funny that they deny that they're not...

But in this very serious and very real statement by the chairman of the ACP,

he called himself the Nassimel Elder.

Now, I'm just going to assume this is a real screenshot.

But even if it was, it's clearly very serious and very, it's very much not sarcastic.

And this is very much part of my video.

And like, Brandon Torres's video was actually popular.

It actually got likes and comments and all this shit.

And I'm like...

Fuck...

What kind of world am I living in?

What kind of a world?

What kind of fucking world am I living in?

Is everyone interested in, like, this type type of politics just a retard? Haas al-Fed utter utter piece of shit

they all did they downloaded this by the way You know, to add insult to injury, look at the Tanky D program.

This is, this is marxist leninism

where the fuck are they getting this term

you are the red libs you fucking retard no red libs allowed you are the red lib you

fucking idiot there's no other meaning to the phrase redlib which i coined myself than this.

All right.

Let's look at the apology, and then we're going to cover the PSL.

We got to just do this fucking quickly, all right?

We're going to cover the PSL thing.

So I gave him very specific guidelines.

It's got to be six pages.

It's got to mention Cambodia five times.

It's got to talk about Lysenkoism

citing real biological science

with real scholarly citations.

I told him it's got to be about the

evils of gaming from a Marxist perspective.

And then I said it has to be in Mandarin.

Now, it's not in Mandarin.

So as far as I'm concerned, I have the right to just ban him outright because it's not in Mandarin.

Okay?

The spacing is kind of fucked up or whatever. I'll forgive the spacing. But is this six full pages. This is five fucking pages with one page of citations. So two of the fucking conditions have not been fucking fulfilled.

All right?

Like this guy's trying to bamboozle me and scam me.

And any one of you fucks who call me a fucking grifter,

he literally said, I'll pay $50.

I said, I don't want your fucking money.

I want a fucking essay.

But he fucked it up.

Video games are computer programs that are played through players inputs and the video game reacts accordingly creating stimuli despite gaming apologists whining gaming has significant negative effects first the detrimental effect on negative and physical health will be discussed. Secondly, this is a redundant introduction. The damage it does to the communist movement. Its contribution to the promotion of misogyny and harm against women. It's negative effects on the real economy and economic productivity.

We're off to a bad start. I'm not going to lie. All right. Video games have an extremely

detrimental effect on the physical and mental health of those who play them.

For children, it can be enjoyable.

Yeah, you're def... What is this disgusting apology for video games?

For children?

What is this?

They don't experience the detrimental effects

as adult damn yes they do

are you kidding well look at fucking iPad babies

you already fucked up dude

like this guy literally screenshoted the

bullshit lying on my fucking name

talking about a

Minecraft server, and now they're doubling down and

saying that it's good for children.

Therefore, still

have healthy development commensurate to becoming

a normal adult.

Many of these children grow up to continue gaming.

According to a study by a Hala Harahari, a correlated relationship between depression, anxiety,

from Saudi Arabia at a higher rate than the average for all adolescents at this age.

Study by zoo, which found that adolescents in China were addicted to video games, were more likely to suffer from depression and obesity, lower academic performance.

Okay, we got Cambodia mentioned for the first time.

So everyone count.

He has to mention Cambodia five times.

This is the first time Cambodia is being mentioned.

All right? I just want everyone to have a word count, and it's going to be one time, the first time, okay? Cambodia, Myanmar, Philippines, to more or less, Singapore, okay, had an average, that's kind of a cheat code to mention Cambodia in this way, but it will pass.

Vietnam has an above, you know, which coincides with the decades-long revisionist political developments that have eroded its status as a Marxist.

Okay.

All of this demonstrates that gaming addiction is detrimental to people's mental health.

This would have an effect on adolescence, academic performance, because it takes the time away from pursuing productive endeavors like studying and other productive endeavors which would include physical exercise

or real-life socializing.

Gaming addiction

could also be considered

to have a compounding

detrimental effect

on a person's mental health,

where it absorbs a person's focus

through the highly...

Okay.

Okay, gaming, it turns people to... focus through the highly... Okay. Okay. Gaming

turns people to what Nietzsche expound.

Okay, the last man.

It is

quite apparent that bourgeois society

has made this type of person a significant

demographic, especially represented by gamers and

Redditors. In the case of Redditors, uh, okay, as many gamers as one of the online communities,

they can be considered from a lysinquist perspective, no longer humans. I told them to say that,

but to find proof though, and that. To find proof, though,

and that gamers who are not fully consumed,

I read it,

yet are turning into non-humans.

I also told him to say that.

As the last man is effectively animalistic,

lysenkoism supports the Lamarckian theory

on the inheritance of characteristics and transgenerational epigenetic inheritance for biologic organisms.

Very weak.

It's very weak, but I guess it passes that qualification.

Paper that researched the effects

on lifestyles on epigen. Okay,

we're here. Okay, okay, okay.

Okay, then

thus according to a lysinquent perspective,

it can be deduced at gamers

stray away from epigenetic, platonic

I don't know what the fuck you mean by that

platonic form of a human due to their poor

lifestyles and poor diets

lack of exercise

lack of vitamin D exposure

in the case of

Rediders

it can be assumed

that they are

effectively no longer

human entirely.

All right.

We're kind of cooking

in the house here.

All right.

Gaming has done

significant harm

to the communist

movement.

Very true.

Social democracy in Western Europe being implemented to placate and pacify the proletariat.

Okay. We're cooking in the house a little bit.

With the popularization of video games,

many communists in the 2020s

who largely get their political education.

They therefore tend to also be hyper online,

such as being gamers.

They're most likely to be social outcast.

This is significant harm to the communist movement.

Makes them, you know, indolent, you know, drug needs.

Furries and other sexually perverse things that further make these people make communism unappealing true

okay second time

Cambodia has mentioned everyone on the ticker

as previous does Cambodia may

potentially third be afflicted

with this decadent culture

okay we have three mentions.

Okay, wait, three, four, five.

When I tell you to mention Cambodia,

when I tell you to mention Cambodia,

what I'm telling you to fucking do

I'm telling you to talk about what

Paul Pot did to gamers

that's what I'm telling you to talk about

you didn't mention that at all

you had no

sophisticated use of Cambodia.

I told you mentioned it five times.

You technically passed,

but it was such a bad faith

fulfillment of the request

because I clearly was trying to

allude to the events in Cambodia

during the Cambodian Revolution

and how, if that played out today,

what the implications for gamers would be.

That was the entire point of me telling you to mention Cambodia five times.

Okay, so we're done with Cambodia forever, apparently.

Cleopatra as a seductress.

Okay, you know, the misogyny.

Uh, okay, this is really just like filling the pages asman gold's community uh feminist gesture in a scene of an anime video game

they sent death threats oh my in a scene of an anime video game.

They sent death threats.

Oh my God, sick.

Rape threats to a woman who allegedly put a fem- Yeah, it's disgusting.

No doubt one of the reasons why the birth rate is so low.

Okay, DPRK Bandit.

He wrote it anti-communism, uh, gaming addictive, negative, okay, we're on the final page, economic productivity. The Marxist Leninists answer the question the question, do gaming addicts deserve prison?

It's very possible.

A time of cruel awakening is necessary

under a Marxist's estate

in order to not let

a gaming addicted parasitic lump and proletary

develop. True.

Where gaming addicts are sent to

specially designed prisons. It's actually True. Where gaming addicts are sent to specially designed

prisons. It's actually true.

Where they will have their obesity treated

and they will lose their addiction to

video games and they will learn to be productive

members of society.

I agree.

Video games are extremely detrimental

society. This is in

the form of it negatively affecting the mental

and physical health and social well-being of gamers.

The fact that it has

significantly damaged the anti,

the communist movement in the West

its promotion of misogyny

anti-social behaviors and for its

detriment to the real economy and economic productivity

any Marxist land in the state must

ban gaming true. It's created a more

pro-social and human society as the

last man.

Produced by gaming is endemic to liberalism, whereas communism must create the new Soviet man.

They didn't do it in Mandarin, okay?

And, you know, they also fumbled the bag when they said children playing video games is okay,

and it's not detrimental for them.

I, you know, who said that you should say that?

Video games are bad, period, okay?

And it's not six pages because the sixth page is just citations that doesn't count yeah and there's a ton of space padding so should they be permaband for life ones if they should be

permaband for life twos if we should they be permaband for life. Two's if we should, they should have mercy.

That's how we're going to decide this.

All right.

Okay, well, this is a C minus.

This is like it's C minus, okay?

It's a passing grade.

Fuck off!

This is why I hate Google Chrome.

Where did I...

What is this?

Lifetime ban. Okay, well well they pass but they have to change their name

for a period of 30 I'm instituting a rule

their name will be changed for a period

of 25 days probation.

Let's find Red Inquisitor.

This is the, if they change their name back, it's a permaband, all right?

This is my fucking compromise.

Their name is going to be changed.

How do I fucking do this?

How do I fucking do this?

I used to be able to change people's name so easily

how do I fucking do that

am I not allowed to do that anymore

can I not change their name anymore uh red how do i do this change nickname on the server how do I fucking change names anymore?

Because I

open their shit and it doesn't even work.

Open in mod menu.

Ban, uh, I can't change their name unfucking believable he has to change his name

he has to change his name he has to change his oh you can change his name prism you can change his name so let me decide a name

for him for 25 days he has to keep it because he did not fulfill the request fully.

His name has to be, um...

Wait, hold on hold on hold on let me think all right All right, I've decided.

It's not even funny.

Hold on.

I decided.

Queer craft sharp blaster, 47.

Queer craft sharp blaster

47

all one word

change it now

he's going to have that name

for 25 days

okay to have that name for 25 days.

All right. All right.

That's that.

The alternative is a ban.

This is only 25 days, all right?

It's only 25 days.

Only 25 days, all right?

That's all that's the mercy all

I told them if you don't fulfill all the terms and conditions

and if I did I said I'm going to run it through Claude if it's AI

which is not I said if you don't fulfill the through Claude if it's AI, which it's not.

I said, if you don't fulfill the terms and conditions, it's a permaband.

He didn't fulfill the terms and conditions.

So 25 days, this is his name.

All right? all right all right all right

check your don't know notifications.

What?

What happened? happen. I'm logging in, yeah.

What the fuck jennifer wait jennifer with the hundred what the fuck is up thank you so much

and dark nrg with the 25. Thank you, bro. Appreciate you.

Let me fix that right now because the donations, I have to take this copy and put it on the React.

Okay, going forward, that problem should never happen again.

Co-Fi notification should appear we're here um so we should that should never have happen again all right um

Jennifer thank you appreciate it uh okay Thank you. Appreciate it. Okay.

All right.

So we have to talk about the PSL thing.

Um. Oh, God. Um Oh god

I think I am

It ones of the stream is still working

All right

Dashboard is just kind of fucked up a little bit All right.

Dashboard is just kind of fucked up a little bit.

That's all right.

All right.

Okay. All right. All right, one second. All right, we're going to have to cover what's going on with the PSL guys. Um, They just had a major split.

And we need to talk about it. You know, and apparently geese magazine the people that i beefed with or if you call it beef i don't know what to call it.

They are the ones who reported it, right?

So we're looking like the people that are trying to... Also, guess who was there?

Donald Parkinson was there.

He's like a vulture.

Every time a leftist organization has any trouble,

you have a troop of people there waiting to reap the opportunity

for the benefit of the DSA. To kill people's hope in independent Leninist organization, I don't

think they're properly Leninist in the PSL, but regardless.

And just say, oh, you have to be a Democrat.

You know, that's the only thing you could do.

So, you know, that's also a thing. Um, I'm trying to get the fucking font for this sub bullshit that I had. What is it, this one?

This one's okay.

This one sucks that I'm using right now.

Hold on.

Let me fucking get the old one.

I don't know which one it was.

I think they got rid of it.

Um... all right, we'll just i'm gonna settle with this one and then never look at it again

all right so you know

we don't have to reach this

every month but it's a broad general goal

keep the stream running

uh anyway

all right

is this looks so wrong?

The font looks wrong.

Again, I'm going to ignore the font.

Never looking at it again.

All right.

Nobody ever comment on it either.

All right.

Let's deal with this PSL thing.

Okay. okay uh i don't know how much i can reveal about this other than

we at the american communist party knew about something was going on in the PSL.

But that's all I'm going to say.

We had nothing to do with it, like literally no connection.

I'll give you the expose

that what I hear

is that the faction of people in the

PSL who are trying to leave,

they want to join the DSA.

So it's all pretty like cringy and shitty all around.

Or I think

this guy wants to start a new party.

Dramatic resignation letter

from one of the PSL's top leaders

accuses the organization of secrecy,

factionalism, and bureaucratic decay.

I really don't like GGG, but I just have to say begrudgingly, I dislike them less than 99% of leftists.

GGG is only 65% retarded versus, okay, I'll say 85% retarded versus the 99% retarded versus, okay, I'll say 85, versus the 99% retarded norm.

So it's like they are,

I hate,

they're kind of smart.

Um, um, They actually do just...

First of all, like, there's this specific honesty that they have.

Their position is pretty thought out, and it's not like they have self-awareness

that's really it.

They have self-awareness.

They're capable of basic

sentience, basic thought.

I disagree with them

fully and comprehensively.

You know that, but I can't bring myself to hate this GGG person.

And you're about to see why.

Look at this. Somewhere in this country, a micro party of 40 men is in the process of becoming two micro parties of 20 over a question with no merit.

Faction expels a faction.

City committee declares the national leadership provisionist secedes takes the mailing list and twitter account with them the majority of such events are of no consequence to anyone.

Someone's cooking in the kitchen.

You know, I just got to say, like, that is, okay, that's a little, that is a little, like,

that's what I mean by self-awareness.

Like, these people are not delusional retards.

They're totally wrong about, like, they understand Marxism is like,

become this retarded, like, psych, psychopathic, psychological, fantasy larp.

But their solution is like, let's be realistic and just be with the Democrats.

And, like, of course, it's the opposite of my position.

But it's like, on the other hand, they are just being sober and just kind of like, look, like they don't have this like moralizing shit that like these like retarded leftist people have and it's just like yeah their

position's fucking wrong as shit.

But they're at least trying to think about how do we actually, like, make Marxism real somehow, you know? How do we make Marxist praxis, like, actually real and not just like some retarded made-up fucking stupid fantasy larp.

I can articulate better why I don't hate these people, but they do think, I consider them like, they're just Marx, just like the economists or not, they don't have the position of the economists, like, you know, in the early 1900s in Russia, there's all these different, like,

wayward Marxist deviations.

And I actually think I could consider them that.

Rather than, like, that horror show I just showed you on Reddit, that's not a deviation

for Marxism

that's just an outright

psychopathic like actual

retard level the level of delusion

and like psychosis

literally not even human anymore type of shit.

This is a deviation from Marxism,

which is on a higher level than whatever we were seeing on Reddit, right?

The typical split in a micro-party is not a clarification of politics this is so true and that's what they tried to do with that's what the records try that's what like people in the the records in the, that's what they did.

Three months into the ACP,

like this is what Bree was trying to do.

Just like, she's like an automaton.

Who cannot help just be like this passive receptacle of the predictable habits of leftists in America.

And they just tried to do this in our party.

And it's like we saw that coming that that would happen from somewhere.

But I don't even hate her for it.

I just think it's like an automaton, like extremely passive.

Like you're not even like in control of your own actions

type, like, you're just like,

it's like you're an NPC in the Sims.

You know how in the Sims, there's just, like,

predictable behavior from these, like,

the Sims NPCs?

And if you're running a communist party there's like these very

like predictable pathways people take that are just like that repeat the same habits and

retarded behaviors of people in uh quote you know, leftist organizations or communist parties throughout

American history. And they have no self-awareness about how they're just like, just repeating

the same like trend or whatever and how it's going to go nowhere and it means nothing but like they're you know

they they're like so subjectively compelled by it because they have like not resolved

the deadlock that that all the leftists in this country are in, right?

So it's like that, it's just like,

you can't even hate, it's just more like,

yeah, it's just kind of like the Sims, you know,

we just have to guard against it and have a solution to it, you know?

Typical slit, you know, membership growing dissatisfied, their incompetence, their clickishness, their internal petty tyrannies, combined with external powerlessness, resolves dissatisfaction by installing a new click who proceed to do the same shit

yeah yeah I mean I can't

disagree with this this is really what happens

um this is how this is how the splits happen

and they just repeat the same thing that they were you know it's like a Freudian return of the same

um the party for socialism and liberation is itself the product of exactly such a split

2004 it broke from the Workers' World Party,

a micro-party with fewer than a thousand members.

The splitters included PSL's current leadership,

who described the reason, you know,

their incompetence,

undemocratic centralization.

Yeah, where have I heard that before?

Every time a split happens,

it's the same fucking story.

It's the same fucking story.

Can I be frank?

There's even tendencies in our own party,

which I could see, you know,

if they're not properly self-aware and self-critical,

I'm not accusing them of that.

I'm just saying, like,

if there's not a temperance of sensibilities.

I could see

like in six months

I could just see

people

saying this

about our party

you know.

Like this is just

so tired

and like

and just clickishness and undemocratic centralization.

And it's like, it's just like so tired.

It's so tiring.

Because you could say that about anything because America has this retarded democratic culture

where people have no conception of how political authority works

can I say I'm kind of I'm not pro tyrant I'm pro self-aware tyranny I'm not pro-tirant. I'm pro-self-aware tyranny.

I'm pro-self-aware. You know, my ideal type of leadership, to be honest, which is not what we have, but I'm just saying, like, if I was a member of the party, this is the type of leader I would want to have. If I was not a leader

myself, I would want a chill guy who is a dictator, but they're chill. And they're just like,

they have a sense of humor and they're cool and they're chill.'re not they don't get off on degrading people or

humiliating them they treat people respectfully whatever they're self-aware about their limitations

but they just kind of like you know they just kind of they're just kind of decisive

and they just don't pretend to be

they just don't pretend

to be like, you know,

um, how should I put it?

Not acting on behalf of the authority that they represent, right?

And it's like, I don't know.

If I lived in a country, that's the type of leader I would want.

I'm not saying necessarily that's what I would like to be, per se.

Maybe it's a self-criticism I should have.

Being that kind of does scare me because it's like, it just feels off.

It's like all this, I'm taking it all onto myself.

And sharing the burden of leadership is nice to some extent.

You take it all and it just feels psychotic.

It feels like you're in a fucking looney bin.

It feels like you're in a fucking mental war at a mental asylum where it's just like

you need people you're talking to constantly.

You need continuous feedback.

You need to always be listening to what other people

are saying. You always need to know what's going on. You need to, like, be able to have

a pulse on what's going on. And it's like, if you were to, if I, I'm going to tell you, like,

my experience as a leader in the ACP. If I was a dictator, like, if I, I'm gonna tell you like my experience as a leader in the ACP.

If I was a dictator like by myself,

I would have,

I would have completely fucking quit.

Because it feels really weird and unnatural.

Um, to not continuously talk to an interface with the party.

But I'm going to be frank about something.

One thing I'd like to see more is that I don't just want to only talk to national leadership.

I want to continuously talk to the entire party all the time as much as I can.

I want people to talk to me more often in the party about things that actually fucking matter.

And I just want to continuously get feedback and talk.

That's why the forum was important for me.

I need to know what the fuck is going on, right?

And I'm going to say this now.

In the party, I feel like there's this culture of people who don't want to fucking just DM me on Telegram.

Yeah, don't DM me about your retarded, like, nonsense ideas that have nothing to do with reality.

But if you have information to share with me, you know, then just share it with me, like, directly.

Like, I don't know.

I would like a more direct relationship with the party, you know?

And because I talk to national leadership every single day all the time.

And I know that's not enough.

I know I need more perspective.

I know I need to get the opinion.

I know I need to talk to people more about what the fuck is going on.

I think the next chapter executive meeting, I'm going to start attending those more regularly, to be honest.

Those are so important you know but uh i believe in centralization in some sense, you know,

like I believe you have to have a decisive,

concentrated will.

What I don't like is petty tyranny.

I actually agree.

Petty tyranny is fucking cringy as fuck, right? People projecting

their own personality and psychologies onto others, people who make others, you know, props in their own

psychological feeder.

I don't fuck with that at all, you know.

Christmas stuff like, I don't want to tell people

to conform to my tastes and sensibilities.

I don't want people to have to play as actors and actresses that are fulfilling my personal fantasies.

And every single person in the ACP can attest to one thing.

As much as I am the way in IGG and how I run

infrared in this community

I never

ever

I don't enjoy

and I don't think I do

I don't remember

ever doing something like this

which is like putting people down, talking down to them, making them feel small and making them feel lesser.

It's just like not something I fuck with doing.

Not in a real party where I'm, these are actually my comrades.

I'm working with these people.

It's like I don't get off on bossing people around and being a petty tyrant at all.

I kind of feel like people can just fucking talk to me and I can just be frank with people and talk to them.

You know, that's honestly, that's, that's how I see myself.

Maybe if you see differently, you should say it.

But that's how I see how I roll and that's my M.O. You know?

Yeah.

So 22 years later, it is happening again.

A faction of dissatisfied members is walking out.

I want to visit San Diego sometime, for sure.

Although I visit the California chapter a lot.

I think next I'm going to NorCal.

And the reason also is because I'm going to meet up with Logo.

ABC said he wants to meet up.

I'm going to chill with them.

I'm going to meet the people in NorCal.

And I'm going to be in Texas soon, too, by the way.

I'm going to Texas.

Going to Texas, by the way.

If you don't know, for the upcoming Texas event that is happening, the chapter event in Texas, I'm gonna be there.

I'm going to Texas.

Why?

Because I fucking love Texas.

Well, I love a lot of the chapters, but I'm going to Texas because it's such a central location and it's one of our most populous sometimes smaller chapters

like Haas you have favoritism toward the more

populous chapters

it's like dude

of course I do

what more people

is more of our party.

If you're a small chapter, you need to prioritize getting more people in.

Because you're not going to have the experience of running a chapter until you're a big chapter.

Um... of running a chapter until you're a big chapter. But that being said, I want to be able to visit all the small chapters, too, for sure.

It's just like I got to prioritize what I prioritize.

PSL's internal external propaganda.

He's resigned, his resignation letter.

We're going to read that as well.

He's an extremely... I thought he was going to be that as well. He's an extremely...

I thought he was going to be 17 years old.

I was like, what the fuck?

Okay, let's see why they're controversial. Fash Busters!

Exposing!

What?

A rape investigation investigation what the fuck

cult like tactics

one on one meetings between members and leadership

where members are not allowed to discuss with anything outside leadership

okay i don't know what the circumstances of this specific controversy is but

having yeah i mean but having having

yeah i mean but having like

confidential

secret meetings

you have to if you're running a fucking party

of course you do

you think information can

just be free and like totally just like

available to everyone all the time?

You're a retard if you think that.

It's absolutely normal.

Especially

I mean if it's a security issue

and there's like I remember there were situations in the party where people were trying to hijack chapters. It happened one time. We had to tell people in that chapter one on one, you know, we had to call me, hey, don't say anything. Don't, don't

jeopardize the operation to get the chapter back, but XYZ, this is what's going on. It's like,

you're saying that's cult like you're a retard. This is why Fash Busters, one arrow is for

fascism. One arrow is for what? Reactionism or something. I don't know. And the final arrow is for communism. So you are anti-communist pieces of shit. You need to be in a fucking gulag. I know what that third arrow is for, you fucking piece of shit.

For the communist symbol, the hammer and sickle, right?

So fuck you.

This is the left.

Fuck you and suck my nuts.

Oh, it's a cult. If you have an organization, shut the fuck up.

Leadership. No time to formally prepare responses or criticism.

Whatever.

I mean, I don't know.

I can't relate to this shit.

Long, frequent branch meetings meant to confuse and wear down.

Very vague.

Punishing members suspected of horizontal communication.

We don't give a fuck about that.

We don't really care about horizontal or whatever.

Heavy emphasis on trust and leadership.

Totally necessary for an organization.

This is bad that you emphasize trust.

Are you a retard?

Baseless accusation that those involved

have a racially motivated

intense scrutiny of socialization have a racially motivated intense

scrutiny of social media

who unfriends

someone in the leader

this is something we would never do actually

if you liked unfollowed

me or if you removed

we don't give a fuck about that.

If you removed a PSL copy

don't care about what you put in your fucking bio.

We do

scrutinize social media practices to some

extent, but I feel like it's very reasonable.

Like, you can't do crazy, edgy shit.

You can't be on some weird, like, sexual shit.

Like, doing porn or something.

I don't know.

Like I feel like we do have limits,

but generally we're pretty hands off.

Long elaborate self-improvement and personal growth testimonials,

which have been posted on social media

I don't think we do that

I think we only speak as a party actually

we don't even like force our members to speak

invoking vague fears of state revision

to avoid criticism.

Well, they are being repressed by the state.

Open encouragement for members to resign if they disagree with leadership.

If you're bitching and crying and you have no solutions, I don't know what to tell you.

That's kind of my view.

Like, if you're just going to whine with no

way forward,

it's like, what do you want at that point?

Unilaterally terminating membership

or of suspending anyone suspected of dissent,

we don't do that

all right so this is how we

fare by the

the fash busters

this all this long drama

about this controversial guy and this

kind of reads

like, I just, I'm not going to take

this at face value. I'm sorry.

Like, I'm sorry.

That whole, that looks like a glowy ass

FBI website.

And Fash Busters looks like some

FBI front group. And it looks like some FBI front group

and it looks like some bullshit CIA FBI nonsense.

I have no love for the PSL at all,

but I'm just not going to be taking shit at face value.

I'm sorry.

And it's the PSL in many ways

who have to take that kind of shit seriously

because this is the people they have to pander to

all the fucking time, right?

He's got a resignation letter the letters long wide ranging and damning

it's a confession as much as an indictment smallorek states that his role as a leader

perpetrating covering up,

or merely ignoring abuses.

He describes a pseudo-democratic structure.

His only purpose is to conceal an

unelected Becker family click.

I've heard this too.

It sounds...

I mean, it's just because the Beckers are

fucking wealthy.

They got the money.

Cable of overriding every decision

made by members.

He documents a culture of compulsory applause

and outright worship.

He alleges that bylaw changes were pushed through a secret because leadership was afraid to face a vote.

Well, we are going to have our national Congress this october and uh i'm just going to tell you right now

there is no plan we have in place nor one we will devise to to prevent a vote, you know,

we're not going to

force

I'm, we're straight up,

I'm straight up, you know,

how it's going to go.

Is how it goes. That doesn't mean I don't have a strategic vision that I'm going to share with the Congress.

I do have a strategic vision. Probably will disseminate it throughout the party in the coming months after July 10th when we have our constitutional amendment suggestions.

I have a vision for fundamental change in the party,

which I want to subject to feedback throughout the party.

So I have a vision for sure, but it's like, you know,

this thing about being afraid to face a vote it's like well

that is

that is wrong I think

you should you should face

the music you know

he reveals that the party's core political documents were not the product of the combined

knowledge as members were allowed to believe, but were one person random thoughts and scribbles.

But, you know, I want to actually say something.

You can't have a core political document.

This is what I always hated about the democratic culture of leftist organizations,

where they create a jumbled cocktail of content in a constitution or in a document

that has no cohesive strategic vision behind it,

and they just kind of jumble and patch things onto it,

and it looks like a grotesque monstrosity,

because nobody's actually synthesizing and distilling things.

I do believe in the firm necessity of having a singular strategy where you distill and concentrate things and simplify them into something.

You don't just fucking aggregate a patchwork of the sum total

of whatever contributions.

Everything has to

work like synergize

into something coherent, right?

And

you know, people have a false

understanding of democracy, per se, where they're like, well, democracy just means like every single person simultaneously contributes to the product.

You know, that's not true.

The authority is always singular authority is central it's like what

Engels said about the captain of a ship there's always a singular central authority the democracy is only a

question of how much does that authority how much is it responsive

to the rest of the hierarchy and how much does it absorb feedback like the the CPC in China.

It's more democratic because it's more

responsive and it absorbs more feedback

functionally.

But does the CPC,

is it incapable of formulating a singular

direction? No. Every five-year plan, there's a singular direction.

Singular direction is the product of a comprehensive whole process democracy where you're aggregating, you're getting all the feedback, right?

And the proof is always in the pudding, so to speak, right? So these people who always, sectarianism in America is always a product of retarded liberal democratic illusions about how authority works. And sometimes there is merit where you do have petty tyranny and you do have this subjectivism.

And it's intensely personal and psychological.

And that's, I totally agree.

Like Caleb Maupin or even maybe in the PSL, like boomers and Gen X people trying to impose their whims and fancies on people they're trying to mold into like actors and their own performance or theater story.

I agree.

It's fucking, yeah, it's abuse.

But sometimes the very understanding of how power works is extremely retarded and naive.

When I see these splits, when I see these sects

that form

and say,

oh,

you know,

it's,

it's become a centralized,

you know,

authoritarian.

It's like,

there's a fine line.

There's a fine line,

you know?

I'm a very balanced person. There's always a fine line there's a fine line you know I'm a very balanced person there's always a fine line

he notes that they're increasingly drafted

by AI chat bots

that is quite funny

that is not something we would

permit

for AI to write

party political documents

we wouldn't permit that

his most detailed example

concerns a base building

project in Brooklyn

leadership opposes kind of work but it's a base building project in Brooklyn

leadership opposes kind of work but instead of arguing against it openly

try to undermine it in secret

sometimes people in the party

will think that I secretly oppose something

that they're doing, and I really

fucking hate that, because

if I don't like what you're doing, I'll just fucking tell

you. And people just assume

that, I don't know, because

I'm not commenting on it,

or I don't know.

It's just like,

I hate presumption.

I hate this presumption shit.

He says that he was repeatedly asked

to attack the Brooklyn Project and refused.

Telling leadership he agreed.

Becker called him several times to am i a fucking crazy fuck

i'm a you know the acp is becoming

Islamic chaos

and I kind of fuck with it

am I crazy because my vision for how to and I kind of fuck with it.

Am I crazy?

Because my vision for how to run the party is like we have this form.

We just say shit.

Like,

we just fucking say it.

We just fucking say it. What's on our mind?

You just say it and then you deal with the consequences discursively of it.

But it's like...

I don't know.

I feel like it's like...

It's quite Islamic.

It's so exoteric.

It's like instead of having so much secrecy and clickishness,

let's just fucking, like,

be fucking open about what we think and just say it.

And it's like,

you guys,

the crazy shit on Red Star,

I just want you to know.

I made it clear.

Other people in leadership

are also on the same page.

We're not banning people

for saying the shit

they've been saying on Red Star.

We're not goingning people for saying the shit they've been saying on Red Star. We're not going to do that.

It's like, it's chaos.

It's chaos.

It's whatever.

But it's like, nobody said it was going to be, you know.

Nobody said it. It's like so, you know nobody said it.

It's like a tornado. It's like

Cycloneopedia. There's this

Middle Eastern chaos

that I fuck with.

This Islamic way of

doing things.

It's like there's an Islamic way of going about things. The Islamic way is just like, it's just

like mob rule. It's like whipping people into a frenzy of just mobilization based on an exoteric conviction and just seeing how the swarm dynamics play out

and it's like this Darwinism where the best position just rises to the top based on what

people recognize as the truth and I have a fundamental faith in the forum

that regardless, we're going to have total,

we basically have total openness,

but people will have the right discernment

to have the right judgment

to come to the right conclusion

as long as

people are willing to have the willpower

to fight for the truth

those people being me

including me right

and it's like

I've learned that from the

infrared community

infrared is so distinct

because in the earliest days

we literally had a no censorship policy

we're not banning for ideology

say whatever the fuck you want

just follow the discord rules

we don't give a fuck

and it's

like, it was chaos. It was chaos.

It was chaos. But out of that chaos,

something very beautiful

came from that, right?

And it's like, I

just kind of fuck, it's like a very

it's very Islamic very it's very

Islamic.

It's very Islamic.

People panic and they say

Haas, the forums, it's out of control.

I say,

no, no,

it's quite nice.

Everything's going quite nice.

Everything is going quite beautifully, you know?

And transparency is what killed the USSR

no

no

what killed the USSR

was the fact that they didn't have a crazy

fuck leader who was decisive

and who stood on business

if they had that they could have been totally open

about fucking everything,

but still lead.

It's like,

you know,

this is a mob,

this is a swarm,

this is a horde,

this is a horde dynamic.

When you see, the problem of the USSR is they had this birthday kid this is a swarm, this is a horde, this is a horde dynamic.

When you see, the problem of the USSR is they had this birthday cake hierarchy structure

where it's like, there

were all these layers of control

and like, it was

very, I'm not saying it was futile

but that was the more of the paradigm of like the

the method of control was very much

control structure

the Islamic method of rule

is like constant

cyclical

cycloneopedia tornado chaos

that emerges into

or is guided by a

single center. So it's like you just have

one center and then a horde of equals.

Very little hierarchy.

And there is hierarchy,

but it's like,

it's like an artificial swarm intelligence.

Like the hierarchy comes and goes.

It rises based on, it's like out of the chaos and an emergent order emerges, right?

And like, you know what I fuck with a lot?

You know in the French Revolution

when everything was chaos

I think it was Benjamin Franklin

they were like yo Ben Franklin

what the fuck is going on everything's fucking chaotic

it's so we're all so anxious

and Ben Franklin's fat ass was there,

and he was just like,

yo,

he was in Anglo,

but he spoke a little French.

He went,

uh,

Sa'aira,

Sa'aira,

which means in French,

it means it'll all be fine.

It'll all be fine.

And then when Ben Franklin said that, it means it'll all be fine. It'll all be fine. And then when Ben Franklin said that,

it became the hymn of the French Revolution. So the Sands Kulo that would follow Robespierre,

they would sing that song, like, it'll all be fine, everything will turn out fine out of all this chaos it'll all be good right and it's like that's the kind of mentality that i have to be very frank

um i don't fear chaos i fear i fear faithlessness i don't fear faithlessness.

I don't fear

faithlessness.

I just think that

it's faith versus

faithless.

If you have faith,

everything will work out.

Um,

you can't be scared. You can't be scared.

You can't be scared.

It's very Maoist.

Chaos under heaven type of shit, right?

Um...

And then they...

To vote, to ban him from speaking

ah okay

at that retreat small a wreck and a group of

five staged

coordinated disruption organized by

becker

reading aloud

on their phones

one of them storming out for effect

days later Becker interrogated his loyalty

for three hours because he refused

to go along with the scheme

they've resigned at the Brooklyn branch

can I can I raise the question of who gives a fuck about Brooklyn

can we we need less Brooklyn

like why is this the capital

of all American politics? Can we just like

chill about Brooklyn branch?

He warns that a similar effect

the Denver

Colorado Denver is also a very cursed

city to be honest. It's very cursed

but I love Colorado but but Denver's quite cursed.

Particularly alarming claim, now we get to the good part,

alleges that the PSL is now spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to employ software developers to build an AI-powered secret police system

with the objective of spying on members of every PSL branch in the country.

It stated purposes to compile reports that the national leadership will use to ensure compliance with national directives.

Members caught reading Jacobin are treated as security breaches. am I supposed to be

like shocked or

am I supposed to be horrified by this

an AI system that tracks reading Jacobin and flags it...

Oh, the horror. Oh, the horror. The horror. Where the fuck are the regimeers? What are all these pussies that are like regime? They're like, not regimeers. They're like, what is the issue with this? Okay, AI-powered secret police system.

Um,

I don't want to spy on members of the party, but

this does sound really based.

I'm not one of these

peeping Tom people. I don't want to fucking

spy on people.

But

I also just

I just don't have a particular

bad reaction to this.

It's just kind of like, well, if it works,

I guess it works, you know?

If they could, if you could somehow,

you know how this would work?

How would this work?

I don't know.

According to Smaller Egg, this comes at a time when the organization refuses to fund political or leadership education initiatives.

PSL's wealthy funders will not pay to teach communists about communism, but we'll shovel out a fortune to spy at them.

Meanwhile, we are literally arguing every day about whether we should have universal $20 dues.

And the PSL has wealthy funders, and they have all this money to do this shit.

It's fucking crazy.

Smaller it does not stop at the incompetence and petty tyranny of the leaders.

He defines the political route, PSL's conception.

He writes,

As capitalism produces injustices, the Revolutionary Party calls or joins protests.

It recruits participants in these protests movements by expressing views that participants come to see is correct.

When there are not protests, the party does agitational outreach to show itself and change the minds of more people.

Capitalism's own dynamics ensure that this cycle

can be relied on to continue. Eventually

the capital system produces a crisis

acute enough to throw

what is this?

So what? your protests will

eventually

lead to a

revolution

the socialist

consciousness thesis

the idea

that unique

historical conditions

preclude any

path to

revolution

but to

widely popularize our particular definition of socialism, positioning, okay, yeah.

By the way, Gies accuses us of subscribing to this thesis, which we don't.

It explains the marginal... If the only road to revolution is the popularization of a given line, regardless of its...

That's why I want to... i want to pose something relevant for the

american communist party it's like you know if people who say hey look acp needs to be more normie

i i would i would actually beg the question.

I would say, okay,

PSL has all this money at its disposal

and is very tame and professionalistic and whatever.

And it's like they're still marginal.

And they don't go anywhere.

And I just kind of think that sometimes maybe we should go in the opposite direction

and kind of double down on the things that make us unique and interesting and kind of like a little out of this world

I don't know

you know just a hunch

I'm not fully decided on that it's just like

yeah I mean I just

if PSL can't do it how are we gonna

fucking do it right

PSL can't do it how are we going to fucking do it, right?

PSL tries so hard to be hip and like in tune

and it's like

well if they can't do it

then what do you expect from

ACP?

I also think another stupid thing that I think is assumed by some people in our party a lot is that that we're trying to recruit 45-year-old uh you know

workers

and that that's like the

cadre of ACP and it's like

what we'll know you're just

we're not trying to recruit them

that's not there's a cadre class

distinction we're not trying to recruit them. There's a cadre class distinction.

We're not trying to recruit old people.

When I say old people, I mean, like, people who are...

We are trying to also recruit schizzo's and straighten them out and have them become professional

revolutionaries.

Like, that's the goal.

That's what I'm trying to say, you know?

It's like we're not here to just like LARP as Normies.

We're here to create

the cadre

themselves

through training

and all that

kind of stuff

the group

then popularizes

okay

the PSL's

delusional

self-conception as a party, he writes,

PSL calls self a party, but by concrete message, it's an ideological tendency.

All right.

Tendency is an organization that gains ground, not by organizing the working class,

by gaining influence among radicals.

PSL has made a fixture among the radical left.

It is a name, almost everyone knows, one of the parties.

It's better than nothing leadership is bad members are good

uh it can't influence society.

I mean, this is such a tall order.

Whatever.

It uses that influence to do one thing.

I just feel like if you're going to be a communist,

this is my...

Y'all want to hear my take.

My take is that if you want to be a communist, be like the ACP, be underground a little bit, be a little, be a little rough around the edges, be a little rough hue and be a little... Yeah, we're totally against the existing status quo and we just walking with our nuts hanging.

You know, it's like, don't do this half-ass shit where you're trying to larp as a fucking cookie cutter Democrat, but you're not one,

actually be the rough around the edges, you know, rough hewn, rough and tumble type of, you know, you're you're you're communists you are revolutionaries

you know you don't look like or talk like or act like people who are trying to appeal to

you know NGOs or some shit, you're

fucking revolutionaries. You're appealing to a

demographic of people who are

angry and ready to roll.

And it's like the people you're recruiting into your

organization, those people

have to be, they have to have

a revolutionary outlook

like a real one.

I'm not talking about this like 80s LARP.

You know the PSL?

It's 70s LARP.

A lot of people are like,

they raise their fist and they're like,

yeah, revolutionary. It's like, no, you're talking about and they're like, yeah, revolutionary.

It's like, no, you're talking about like some pastiche,

1970s, wholesome record label with a Black Panther Afro on it with the sunglasses,

and it's like, revolution will not be televised it's like

you know

that's not the vibe the vibe is

dirty underground

revolutionary like you have to be

actually a revolutionary

in 2026.

You're not just emulating the 70s.

You are actually...

Revolutionary is not wholesome.

I have to say it.

If you're going to be in an underground, a discursive revolutionary underground, you're going to look to your left, you're going to look to your right.

There's going to be a lot of creepy, weird, scary fucking people.

Pretty much like a prison.

Like in prison.

Like, yeah. I mean...

Can I tell you something? A lot of leftists

have no idea.

No idea what it means.

Chris, what's up? Like, okay like okay for example Bolsheviks were partially underground

and then there was anarchists

you know what the equivalent of anarchists in America

today are

they're the right-wing extremists

that are underground, the scary fucking people

who are violent and shit.

And it's like, we don't like those people at all.

Just like Bolsheviks didn't like anarchists,

but that's the equivalent.

They're like super underground.

They're partially infiltrated by feds.

And they're like at that level of like, like anarchists on the other hand, those are just like edgy liberals.

Today, anarchists are not really the anarchists

from a century and a half ago.

The anarchists of a century and a half ago

were really fucked up.

Like, they didn't have morals.

They didn't have political correctness.

They didn't, all they they didn't have political correctness.

They didn't, all they had was like violence and hatred.

Whereas today, you look at anarchists and they're like all the pronouns and wholesome chungis, political correctness.

Like, those are not anarchistsists those are some kind of like

weird

libertarian liberal or something

but those

those are not the historical anarchists

you read about yeah you read about

Sergei Nakayev and Bakunin and like those people were not good they were not like

wholesome politically correct people they were very very scary people, you know?

Um...

And if you're going to be a communist, revolutionary, and a communist, you have to...

It's like Bain. You know when Bain was in that pit? and a communist, you have to...

It's like Bain...

You know when Bain was in that pit, that prison,

and he was full of all these fucking scumbags

and evil people, but he was, like, clinging

to this fundamental innocence,

this hope. I think it was Tia Al-Gul, right?

And like, Bain was this good guy in a bad place.

That's what it means to be a communist and a revolutionary today.

You're surrounded by all these fucking scumbags who are, who occupy a similar position of being outside the proximity of the state, even if discursively, right?

But you can't devolve into them.

You have to maintain this kind of, you have to maintain the light even in the worst darkness, you know?

And like,

that's not wholesome at all.

It's very fucking brutal,

very fucking rugged. persuades a generation of young radicals that revolution is impossible.

The biggest campaign is to build the party.

The biggest campaign is to... My main criticism of the PSL is that you've had enough time to try doing this.

You've had enough time and you failed.

You're doing something fundamentally wrong.

And you have all this money and you have all this time and you still have not used it in an effective way.

Why was a group of petty tyrants with no interest

organizing, granting the standing of a serious tendency

of the left? I can answer that because they had money.

That's the only reason they had money.

Because the micro party left that platformed it.

No, it's because they had money. There's no other reason. All right?

Gigi, come on. You're supposed to be smarter than this. If you got a billionaire throwing fucking tens of millions at you, you're going to get attention in this

country.

The Red Star Caucus,

a micro party that occupies seats

in DSA,

impose a line on the DSA and build itself of many of popular

radicals treating the DSA is a placeholder for workers' party.

American Communist Party out of online streamers and content creators

Based, where the East Grists, by the way.

East Square represent, that's all it

East Square represent where the East Grists.

Differes from PSL only in that its turf is Republican social media users.

The cutting and subdivisions of such turf is how the microparties with fundamentally social conscious theory coexist.

This is just not true at all, but whatever.

Our turf is Republican users on social media.

No, it's not, okay?

At this point, can I be honest, we don't have a turf. I think we're the only people that don't have a turf. Our turf is just the truth. We don't pander to anyone. Our turf is just the truth. Straight up. If you're on board with the fucking vision and the message, join.

I'm not going to fucking pander to anybody.

Just fucking join us.

If you're fucking...

You're on the truth.

Join us.

The cutting and subdivisions of such turf is how microparties are fundamentally similar.

We don't have a theory of social consciousness.

We have a theory of dual power.

We have a theory of dual power. We have a theory that...

There's been a debate on Red Star a lot, and look, it is true that the thing that sets us apart the most is the chapter enterprise thing.

But the whole point of chapter enterprises is to fund continuous activity.

And you have to do both. You have to try to keep doing the activity locally to win people's support and have a good reputation locally in your community.

But the purpose of dual power is to sustain operations and become an economic power in this country.

It's very ironic that this is our theory of socialism when we're the ones who are broke.

All three share the same idealist core that Constance is transmitted from above.

The organization's growth is...

The working class will eventually fall in line behind the correct slogan.

Not true.

No.

No, we have a dual power theory, to be honest.

That's really our view.

Dual power.

We want to root ourselves and base ourselves in society on an economic level and be a fundamental force.

We want to be an alternative version of America.

That's not just about agitation. That's about building power and infrastructure in this country.

Strength of the right. The simple fact, the fact the masses make history only when they're organized as a class.

Okay. the micro parties have all made peace with the same fatalistic premise that the PSL built on the American people are not cable of organizing the correct realistic tasks simply one as many radicals to a given correct line

having cannibalized the whole of the radicals who tolerate their given line

okay whatever debater and VC Yo.

Yo!

Yeah!

Yeah, okay. yeah okay hello

yeah

so

what's going on

well is in the debate here?

Yeah.

Okay.

What exactly is the point of debate?

Uh,

uh, donate 20 subs to the stream and if you don't you get banned from the server forever goodbye

smaller i guess no intention of retreading the same ground with the same line and

recannibalizing.

Same old radical milieu as Brian Becker and Gloria did when they built the PSL.

Uh... My response to geese about this is like, look, guys, you're all wrong.

You all have this stages conception

of the growth of socialism

look you need to be a Maoist

everything's gonna fucking go to shit

you need to prepare be a prepper

I have a prepper theory

of socialism

everything's gonna go to shit and we prepper theory of socialism.

Everything's going to go to shit and we need a fucking prepare

and be barbarians.

Y'all are civilized. We're the barbarians.

Y'all are a bunch of civilized people.

Y'all are a bunch of civilized people y'all are a bunch of civilized people who are waiting for your time in the sun

in civil society master yoda

but communists have never taken power

unless you're talking about

a barbaric circumstance.

There's never been a protest that turns into a revolution by itself.

There's never, it's not how it works.

It's about dual power

and

it's about barbarism

you gotta be a barbarian

um

you will never have your time in the sun

I think you know I'm so interested in what Hassan Piker's doing kind of

Hassan Piker is pushing the limits of that right now

nobody's doing Hassan Piker is the one who's pushing the limits of that right now. Nobody's doing...

Hassan Piker is the one who's pushing the limits of how far you can be in the sun.

And he was just in Colorado.

And he was going to do a speaking of engagement.

Three of the venues canceled on him because they got calls from corporations saying they can't do it.

And Hassan Piker is going to learn that while he grows in the Democratic Party, he's going to fucking fail.

And that's why, you know, I want him to find that

out and learn it himself.

You know, you can't

be in the sun in civil society.

You can't. You can't.

It's not going to happen.

I mean, every single communist attempt to do this failed.

The Italian Communist Party got the closest. They almost won an election in the post-war period.

CIA destroyed it.

The only thing that works is what Che Guevara did. The only thing that works is what chagovar did the only thing that works is what mausaitung

did call me a larper that's fine the whole content of communism in this country has to be preparing

for some extraordinary conditions because i promise you under these conditions,

communism will never be allowed to gain the relevance that you're looking for it to have. Smallerick has no intention

of retrading the same ground

or the same line

he called for a fundamental course correction.

He and his supporters recognize

that the PSL

is a dying

effort

as the chief

author of the

orientation

was leaving more

questions.

What will he do?

If they join the DSA, that would be so cringy. But that might be what happens, you know?

We might just be looking at people joining the DSA for all we know. That would be very cringe Okay, I'm reading his resignation letter now, because apparently there's some stuff in there.

Holy texto much. Holy texto mucho, holy texto mucho.

Should I just plug this into AI and ask it to summarize everything. In February, the PSL decided there was not enough resistance and it must launch a round to protest Trump.

Under a new brand with viral potential.

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What?

Marxism and Leninism.

Okay, what is you, what do you want to debate about?

The philosophical precepts of Marxism and Leninism.

Okay, go ahead.

So I think you would take it that

materialism would be

foundational to your view of

Marxism, but specifically dialectical.

What I'm pointing out?

What's up, bro? Go ahead. Yeah, materialism. Dialectical materialism.

Yeah, exactly.

So how can you differentiate revisionism of, let's say, Lenin and Stalin versus Kowtsky or Trotsky?

Because you have no basis to really make that critique.

Yes, we do. What are you fucking talking about?

What measure do you have to say that Trotsky is deviating from whatever you want to call it the spirit of Marxism while Trotsky isn't?

So this is how at a given juncture historically, there's a correct line and there's a false line, which cannot be

measured based on any kind of eternal formula or abstract formula, but is based on the logic of

history as it is contemporaneously being played out in real time at the present, right?

So for example,

yeah,

but in real time,

in the now,

right?

And there are no crotchets or clutches in the past that can tell you exactly how to proceed forward. But at the same time,

the deviation, what the deviation does, I mean, there's a really complicated way I could explain this,

if you have the patience, or should I think about more how to simplify this to you?

Or do you have the patience to hear

what this is actually? I mean, I have the patience, but

I would just say, first of all, why

wouldn't Khrushchev

and his reforms? Because that's validated

by experience, validated by history by history no it's not

undercut the whole premise no it's not because what revisionism does is that it amounts to the

liquidation of a specific trajectory and a specific tradition and a specific line of development.

And what the correct path does is it simultaneously justifies the logic that is inherent in the past thus far, right, while reproducing it in a completely new way in the present.

So the creation of a parody between the accumulation of a kind of logos that's inherited from the past, a long chain of succession, but

reproducing that in the present. Now, if you understand blockchains, I'll give you the

blockchain theory of revisionism. In a blockchain, there's a continuity, right? But at the point

in which the new block is being mined or whatever it is, there has to be a huge amount of computation

that goes into discovering the cryptographic key

that fulfills, you know, whatever.

That aligns with everything that had come thus far.

So everything that comes thus far

generates a kind of cryptographic

key and that it takes a huge immense amount of computational power to discover what that is. And once it does,

there's a new block, right? So there's not an inherent knowledge of what the sum total

and aggregate of what has come before

actually is or amounts to.

And so you can't say that

the continuity, like what would

conform to continuity is like based on repeating some known formula.

Every present historical juncture requires some kind of immense computational power to understand the way forward.

That's my very, very crude simplification of it.

But there's no metaphysical basis or framework which says this is revisionism and this is, you know, this is merely an adaptation to a new circumstance. Revisionism basically repudiates

the meaningfulness of the revolutionary tradition

Hello? Yeah Okay the meaningfulness of the revolutionary tradition hello yeah okay you know but what falsifies

revisionism then because it seems like any sort of update or any sort of evolving of

the theory can be justified

within that worldview.

There's nothing that seems to falsify it.

And if Mark says that there is

an end goal in sight, that it's not just

moving...

No, that's not...

What do you mean? What makes revisionism it's not just moving. No, that's not... No, no.

What do you mean?

What makes revisionism wrong?

Yes, I'm saying... You're saying that it's sort of...

Revisionism is a cop-out from the intense...

Intensity of the revolutionary process

and tradition. It's a cop-out. It's just a way of

copying out of the specific

dilemma and the specific

the specific

primary contradiction that you're in.

Revisionism is a cop-out. Cop-out and sell-out.

That's what it is.

But, okay, take for instance

Marx's claim that socialism

needs to arise

in the most industrialized

capitalist countries.

That point is pretty

orthodox in Marxism.

Okay.

And it was wrong. And it was Okay. And it was wrong.

And it was wrong.

And it was wrong.

Exactly.

But you're saying that it's, we can't look to Marx to see if that was wrong.

We have to look to abstract, obscure.

You have to look at the relationship between, you have to look at the, no, you just have to look at the relationship between you have to look at the no you just have to look at the

relationship between theory and reality and practice okay but but an anarchist state

that that's existing right they have just the same amount of claim that praxis has justified that this is the correct line.

We have the golden line and it's sort of taking us to this point.

And where are these anarchist states?

In history, you can point them out.

Where is the Soviet Union union right 1991 i mean there has been a

soviet union where has been the where is the anarchist state where is that uh in spain okay so for

i i i by the way i agree that there has to be a theoretical accountability for why the USSR collapsed, but you can't just say that the USSR is comparable to some nonsense experiment that lasted one year.

The Soviet Union clearly did make an imprint on history, even to this day, and why it collapsed, of course, is a fundamental question for Marxism that it has to address, I agree.

But, you know, what are we even talking about here when we're talking about anarchist

states or whatever?

It's like we're talking about something that is just does not have any historical

legitimation, doesn't have any historical legitimation,

doesn't have any basis in history

besides being a very

short... Like, it never proved

it was capable of actually building a state.

What I'm saying is that they're actually

more authentic to the spirit of Marxism

than Stalinism in your view.

That's just metaphysics. That's just metaphysics. Stalinism is actually...

You have to go to such claims to justify that Chey Jinping and socialism of Chinese characteristics,

this is what Marx envisioned. I mean, you're thinking...

Marx could not have envisioned anything.

He died when he died, and he wasn't a fortune teller.

I don't even think you have an idea of what Marxism is.

He had predictions about how society...

He had very...

No, he only had very short-term

predictions about things.

He wasn't a fortune teller.

He never claimed, oh, yeah, I have a prediction

about how everything will play out

in detail.

He never said that.

Yeah, he never wanted to

exactly concretize and materialize what the end

state he wasn't he wasn't a fortune teller no but he said that there was a certain logic because

this is a hegelian notion of history that there's a certain logic to history.

And it's unfolding to this point where socialism will replace capitalism leading to communism.

Okay.

And so if you're not pushing in your worldview the world revolution this is the

the wave of the future can you stop just like hurling phrases and actually like be clear about

what you're trying to say you're just like repealing to stereotypes and phrases without actually placing them in their

proper context or proper logical justification within the Marxist framework.

Oh, because that's essentially what's...

I don't want to hear slogans about world revolution and slogans about true true communist society what about actual real history

and what about actual real marxist praxis can you ground it in something concrete and stop just

appealing to these stereotypes about what Marxism is?

This is the clearest probably point that I've

made. It's that the theory

is contradicting the praxis

because Stalinism and socialism

in one country cannot

account for

how world revolution

and the

theory behind how Marxism claims

that...

No, doesn't you mean the opposite?

Don't you mean, because you're just so obscure right now.

Don't you mean to say that Marxism cannot account

for something like socialism in one country? Is that what you mean to say that Marxism cannot account for something like socialism in one country?

Is that what you mean to say?

Yeah, it can't. But it's also the other way around that it can't account to be a Marxist,

to be within that. I mean, it doesn't fulfill the eternal criterion and definition of Marxism.

Is that what you mean?

No, meaning it's using the sort of aesthetic of Marxism, but it's totally differentiated.

Okay.

And you claim it's totally differentiated because according to Marxism, we just wake up one day to a world revolution and to communism.

No, I mean, when did I say that it happens all at once?

Well, what are you trying to say? Be clear about what you're trying to argue. In what way did the Soviet Union fundamentally

contradict, in what way

did Stalin fundamentally contradict Marxism?

By socialism in one country.

And how does that

fundamentally contradict Marxism?

Because it replaces the ideal of internationalism.

You are already speaking in a way that is fundamentally incompatible with the Marxist view.

Marxism doesn't have ideals.

Where is the ideality within Marxism? Ideals don't exist. Marxism doesn't have ideals. Where is the ideality

within Marxism? Ideals don't

exist in Marxism. Be concise

with your language so that I actually know

that you're actually coming from a place of knowledge about

what Marxism is.

I'm using that in the colloquial sense.

I don't necessarily... Even in the colloquial sense. I don't necessarily...

Even in the colloquial sense, it's wrong.

Marxism doesn't create ideal conditions of anything or project them.

That's now what Marxism is.

The notion of praxis is based on a very rugged and earthly understanding, a very close relationship, close and continuous relationship between theory and practice.

It doesn't project that there's going to be some ideal criteria on that somehow satisfied, like a box being checked or something.

That's fundamentally foreign to the method that is Marxism.

Okay, but that's my point is that the view of history, if you want to replace ideal with what the movement or the dialectic of history.

How did the Soviet Union not partake in that by being one country?

Because it ultimately turned inwards and it became a bureaucratic state where Stalin as a cult of personality viewing himself as almost a new czar, which is he idolized ivan the terrible and had movies made that and he idolized the muscovy and this idea of the red czar versus internationalism which is really what marxism is about. Okay.

Is that concrete?

No, it's not.

It's just an appeal to stereotypes about the Soviet Union that you heard from, you know,

Simon Seabag Montefair or something.

So in any case, look, socialism in one country is a continuation of Marxism

and an elaboration of Marxism

that is fully consistent

even with the Communist manifesto.

Do you think Lenin would support socialism in one country?

Absolutely.

Even though he

kept on saying we need to get these

revolutions in the West. No, he gave up on

that. He gave up on that. In his

lifetime, he gave up on that.

I think probably is, was it the last

thing Lenin ever wrote? I think it was the last thing he ever wrote publicly, which literally said, we need to have an alternative path to civilization. And what was it that Lenin pursued the slogan? Not socialism in one country, communism in one country. He said communism equals

communism. Okay, but that was Lenin's view. He said communism equals Soviet power plus

electrification of the whole country. No states in communism. So that is just an oxymoron.

So don't appeal to Lenin then, because Stalin didn't contradict

Lenin. So then, okay,

if Lenin's contradicting Marx and Stalin's

contradicting Lenin, then what is it

just but incoherence?

What

is the, okay, so

Marx anticipated in 1848 that the revolution would first take place in the advanced capitalist countries.

Now, I don't know if you know this, but Marx lived a lot longer than 1848 to see how that didn't happen.

So even Marx himself toward the end of his life began to acknowledge that the revolution that was being anticipated by the communists will probably happen in Russia first. And that Marx understood that in the backward periphery, there was an immense revolutionary potential that was not present in the advanced industrial corps.

So by the time Marx gets older in his later life, he acknowledges that the English industrial proletariat is not going to be the first ones to affect a revolution

and that they have become a kind of labor aristocracy. They become bribed by the profits of

imperialism, as Engels put it, you know? You're not being concerned.

You don't have a knowledge of Marxism.

The things you're saying are stereotypes about Marxism.

They're not really...

Even that point you're making, he still said that if the revolution popped off first in Russia, it wouldn't be sufficient.

Because it requires the help from

the industrialized Western nations to have the capital accumulation and to actually bring

about socialism. Can you distill the core essential logic within Marxism that makes that

happening necessary to be compatible with

Marxism? Because, you know,

do you know who taught Lenin his

Marxism?

That's very big.

Plekinoff taught him his Marxism. Partially true. Okay. And the that's very big okay plekenoff time is marxism partially true okay

and the orthodoxy which was always what

and this is what lennon believed is that socialism follows from capitalism

it follows from industrialization you can't have a peasant, aristocratic country, which is what

Lenin did not agree with Placana, first of all. And then the second point is that,

actually, Volkvulture is right. Marx literally said you could skip the capitalist stage,

per se, stage. How can you do that?

But that's what Marx said.

If we're talking about being consistent with Marx, that's what Marx said.

You want to ask, how can you do it? Read Marx.

But that was his position.

He did say it.

He said the Russian commune already contains the structure and the preconditions

to transition to communism without having to go through capitalism.

That's what he said.

Okay, if Mark said that, well, you concede that you're wrong.

No, because I don't, I think taking in isolation, that's not enough.

It needs to be that

he also thought that... Marx was extremely

flexible and dynamic and his understanding

of how the world worked. He didn't divide

the world into stages. He didn't

have this understanding that there's... Oh, there's a

state... Marx did not think in this way.

Marx dreaded these kind of, quote-, unquote, orthodox Marxists that tried to kind of, like, create this neat kind of system of his thinking that created this hierarchy of different developments and stages and, like, Marx had nothing to do with that. Marks didn't even

talk about the Asiatic Motor Production in detail. He literally called it the Asiatic

mode of production because he didn't coin a phrase for the various different societies. He

investigated pretty meticulously and thoroughly. And him and Engels were so flexible and loose in terms of their usage of these words, which were always dynamically suspended in a concrete analysis of the world, as it actually was.

This formulaic notion of Marxism, which is this cookie-cutter Anglo-Box way of dividing things into X, Y, and Z, was always foreign to Marxist thinking.

Marx was not an Orthodox Marxist, okay?

Marx employed a specific dialectical outlook and method, which, yes, reflected a consistency of his understanding, but never was grounded in any kind of formulaic doctrinaire worldview.

Okay, so I think this goes back to the more philosophical

no you don't know what marxism is that's the problem you're reducing it to a series of platitudes

and stereotypes that are based in like uh beginners dummies guide to marxism for beginners to kind

of had an understanding of the rudiments

of some of the things that are commonly

associated with Marxism. But as far

as the question of what Marxism actually is...

Why can't Marxism just be liberalism? Why can't it just be

third positionism? It can be anything in that point of

view because there's nothing to

comment. We haven't even, we haven't even begun talking about what Marxism is. That's the

problem. All we have talked about are some of the platitudes that are associated with Marxism

in the Dummies Guide to Marxism book or something. Well, we haven't even begun to talk about...

You haven't read Marxist's texts.

I have.

No, you didn't even know that he said the Russian mirror would be a sufficient basis

for the transition into a communist motor production without capitalism.

Engels, I think, had a letter or wrote, you know, just before he died that he didn't think that Russia would be enough to actually bring about the revolution.

Okay, well, Stalin said that in the last instance,

Russia would not be enough to, you know, comprehensively achieve the destruction of capitalism worldwide.

Ergo, socialism in one country is not possible. No, socialism in one country is not possible. No. Socialism in one country is not sufficient for the worldwide elimination of capitalism.

Okay, but back to the point, what actually allows you to say this is Marxism?

Why isn't liberalism

Marxism then or any other

regime? Because

you're just saying that... If you're asking me

what Marxism is, I will happily

teach you what Marxism is. But all

I have done is address

your false understanding of Marxism.

Because I think you're getting at this dialectical notion that there's nothing actually

substantive because we can't talk of ideas.

We haven't even started talking about what Marxism is.

We've just talked about

your false understanding or conception

of Marxism. That's based on prejudice.

No, because there's Marxists that

agree with this position

throughout history that deviate, that

agreed that Stalinism was a deviation.

Okay.

And not a single one of them corresponded to any actually historically instantiated movement of history.

Not a single one of these people materially... About Western Marxism.

What is Western Marxism?

Show me what's Western Marxism.

Where is it? What is it?

Like the existentialists or Adorno.

Okay.

So if you fart in a jar and you put it in a corner, is that a something?

Oh, but they're contributing to theory.

Okay.

I can contribute to, I can contribute a fart to a jar.

What is that?

It's a nothing.

I mean, because you,

part of you as intellectuals can totally dominate society.

Like, Marx believes that. When did I say that? When did I say that? Because that's the

kernel of Marxism. Okay, based on what? Based off the, you know, who actually was the leaders of the bolshevik revolution who led the uss sars in the

1940s stolen really just Stalin alone is that is that possible that Stalin no with the

compoded bureaucracy I mean okay let's talk... Okay, let's talk about that bureaucracy.

Let's talk about that bureaucracy.

Even that bureaucracy, were those bureaucracy

intellectuals? You think Khrushchev

was intellectual? He was part of the bureaucracy.

You think Barry was an intellectual?

You think that, you know,

even Zukov, the commander of the Red Army, you think he was Zukov,

the commander of the Red Army,

you think he was intellectual?

Tell me,

name the people you think represented the fact

that society is dominated by intellectuals

according to the law.

They came from the intelligentsia.

No, they didn't.

No, they did.

The same with the French Revolution.

It's not even true.

They didn't.

It's true.

It is true.

The generation of people who came from the intelligentsia were largely purged.

What about the old Bolsheviks?

The people that actually found...

Yeah, they were killed and purged.

They didn't actually build the Soviet state. Okay, yeah, but people that actually found... Yeah, they were killed and purged. They didn't actually build

the Soviet state. Okay, yeah, but that's the whole

you had to purge them.

Okay, based. What's the

issue?

The issue is that it's just sort of

endless, vicious cycle where

Stalin's just

purging people to accumulate ultimate power

because they just wanted all the power.

Okay.

I mean, I don't, I'm not saying.

You think Stalin was like this greedy man who wanted

more like

yachts and mansions?

There's like, what was the...

Why did he purge over a million people

in the span of two years?

Do you think he did that personally?

Do you think that there's a distinct...

Okay, do you think there's a distinct possibility

that there could have been anything going on in the country, any kind of process, any kind of social change happening that might correspond to the fact that there was a purge of the bureaucracy? Is any aspect of that a reflection of something going on in society itself, or is this

all just downstream from Stalin's whims and fancies?

I don't know. I mean, they would just accumulate

lists, and Stalin would just sign them off, killing

thousands of people. Well, why was that happening? Do you know?

Do you have any, like, rudiments?

It depends what exactly you're talking talking about so i'll teach you the

difference between marxism and liberalism in this concrete analysis itself marxism would say

what shifts were actually happening in the society itself in the mode of production

materially that

correspond. Are you talking about the industrialization and collectivization?

So the liberal view, you keep

interrupting me, that's really cute. The liberal

view would say this is all because of the whims and

fancies of the individual will.

People using their will as individuals

in the aggregate that's somehow leading to a kind of historical outcome, right? But the Marxist

view would actually say that because on an institutional level, the first version of the Soviet state was built by bourgeois specialists and intelligentsia because 90% of people were illiterate.

This process of socialism in one country brought more and more people upwards and

promoted them because they were being educated.

They were being recruited into institutions

and recruited into the lower levels

of the bureaucracy. And this created

immense pressure from the bottom

on gatekeepers

who had the prejudices that they inherited from you know the

previous year of history the 20s and all the class in bourgeois prejudices that they came from

and that eventually this came this became a confrontation between the new mass of people that were uplifted by Stalin, Stalinism, and Stalin's rule, and the kind of gatekeepers who came from a prior class position. So Marxism would understand this as a social phenomena and try to understand what was actually happening in the change within society that makes this make sense that makes sense of what's going on and it wouldn't reduce it to the ideas of this or that person or the whims and fancies of this or that agent or will, right?

So that's an example of what Marxism looks like

by way of analysis.

This is why Marxism

is a false theory because

you tried to posit that this is like

anti-idealism, that it's focusing on the real reality.

But the whole point that you've laid out is just fantasy.

Why?

Stalin did not lift up the peasantry.

He crushed the peasantry, the decoulicization.

Right?

The Ku Klux were totally...

Stalin didn't lift up

the peasantry, really?

I mean, did collectivization?

I should grab you by the year,

take you to the Soviet, the U.S.S.S.

Former USSR to Russia. We'll go to Moscow together.

We'll go to the Soviet archives.

And we will look through the statistics of the

literacy rates throughout the 20s. And we will we will look at the institutions of the Soviet

state and the names of the people that were being promoted and being brought up.

So plenty of historians have actually done this analysis, like Sheila Fitzpatrick, for example,

who is not a communist, who came to the conclusion that the Great Purges were primarily a consequence of social mobility.

Okay, well, Robert Conquest. were primarily a consequence of social mobility.

Okay, well, Robert Conquest.

Who, okay, Robert Conquest said that Stalin and Lenin ate babies and were evil people who killed trillions of people because he's an ideologist.

But Sheila Fitzpatrick wasn't an ideologist. She was trying to have a kind of realistic, just purely kind of like empirical, positivist

understanding of what was going on.

And that's the conclusion she drew.

Why kill the Kulaks then?

If you're trying to lift up the people and you're

the voice of the people. First of all, Stalin

objectively did lift up the people. So before

we talk about the Kulaks, we don't have

to question his reasoning. That was objectively

what happened. Okay?

At what cost?

If you treat people like ants and you can just crush them. Okay.

So beginning from the premise that it happened, which it did, the question of decoulocization and collectivization was very simple.

During the Stolipin reforms, which happened in the late Tsarist period, there was an artificial sociological group that was created as a consequence of these reforms that were an aberration with respect to the sociology of the Russian peasantry.

Russian peasantry had a culture of common ownership of land historically.

Actually, Marx even talked about it.

The Russian form of the commune actually goes quite deep into the history of Russian history.

Well, even before serfdom, this was the case.

And it doesn't matter.

The Russian commune, the mere form, the peasants would run it collectively and they would run it communally.

After the abolition of serfdom

they didn't automatically become the coolocks that had to happen because of the staleep and reforms so there's a period between the abolition of serf serfdom and the stolepe and reforms

is lifting up the people.

Okay, but it didn't actually.

It failed fundamentally.

In any case, the Stolipan

reforms created an antisocial,

individualistic

type of

demographic among the peasants who primarily were people that accumulated grain,

hoarded it and used it to subject other peasants to usurious forms of servitude and subjugation.

So when crops would fail,

not all the peasants are able to weather that,

but for the people that are hoarding grain

and people who are gobbling up land monopolistically

they're the people you would have to go to

to be solvent. Yes, they were

usurers. You don't know that the

Kulox were usurers who subjected

grain. Yes, they were.

They were monopolistic rentier parasites

who would have a

model of,

they would have

this agricultural

model because they're

in close proximity

to the Tsarist

actually,

not even because

the survival of

the fittest.

And they would

have solvent plots of land that would allow them to...

Do you reject all hierarchy then?

Okay.

Stop going in a million different directions and let's follow this train of thought.

The Koolocks were immensely

unpopular. That's the point.

They were detested and hated by the peasantry

themselves. And when

it came time for

the industrialization of Russia,

you had the scissors crisis, even in the

mid-1920s.

So Bucharan's NEP allowed the Kulaks to get rich and get fat, and they opened up reforms.

But it still corresponded to a scissors crisis where industrialization was not able to happen because

the price of food kept getting jacked up because these monopolistic coolocks would inflate the prices of grain in order to expropriate and take as much as they could from the center, from the state.

And so the countryside could not be developed, and industrialization could not take off.

Now, these were not ideal conditions.

The Soviet Union had been invaded during the Civil War by a coalition of dozens and dozens of different countries

in case you don't know the history, right?

Stalin correctly anticipated

that's not true.

When he took power that they have 10 years to industrialize,

oh, it's not true.

It's not true to during the Civil War

dozens of countries

invaded them.

They set like a few

whatever legions.

They didn't actually

put up a front.

It was mainly the Russian

people that are

Russian people who bankrolled

the white army.

Where did they get their resources from?

Well, the Russian army was made it. What about the cossacks and the peep and the peasantry was not in favor of olshivism i mean

you know really really even a sort of misnomer there were people on the ground who were on the side

of the white army and former white army generals themselves

who could clearly attest to the fact that the Bolshevik Red Army won the favor of the peasantry,

at least towards the end of the Civil War. The overall majority went over to the Bolsheviks.

Well, they weren't, not in their hearts, though.

Because... Okay. I mean, we're just shifting the fucking goalposts into nonsense and gibberish.

No, because the peasantry was rooted in traditional Russian orthodoxy in the czar, the loyalty to the czar loyalty.

No, the peasants hated the fucking czar. They were the ones being enlisted to go die in that fucking war. And they were landless, they were

starving, and

they were being subjugated

by a new serfdom. Because Russia was

in debt to France

because of the Tsar couldn't industrialize

Russia without taking out loans from France,

put everyone into

fucking debt, the peasants were being driven from their fucking land, rapidly being

proletarianized.

They were not ideological Bolsheviks.

But they hated the Tsar.

The Polsica Party only had 13% of the vote, I think, in the provisional

government. It was a coup. It wasn't a revolution.

It was a coup. No, the, how many times

do I, you can just go look at my debate on the question of the,

that the Russian provisional government,

Russian Duma election, the fucking sham

elections that absolutely

where the voter lists

Oh it's voter fraud right?

No, the voter lists

were collected

of the candidates and the division of the

candidates was collected

before the Bolshevik revolution itself and the change

of the mood of the country. So when the elections actually happened, the SRs got the majority,

but the SRs were not divided between the left-wing SRs and the right-wing SRs. The left-wing SRs were actually allied to the Bolsheviks. So these elections were not reflective of the will of the population. The majority russia did not see the duma as a legitimate

body of representation for democracy they saw the soviets is that so the elections didn't

matter it was some side the soviets allied with the with the with the provisional government nope the so

the Soviets were aligned with the provisional government of karensky who elected karensky by

the way who did i'm asking you. What elections did...

You tell me.

Oh, so you don't know history?

You don't know that Kerenzky was actually a dictator and was not elected by anyone, and there were no elections under Karenski at all.

But the Soviets... not elected by anyone and there were no elections under Kerensky at all. The Soviets

allied with the provisional government insofar as it

didn't contradict their viewpoint.

Based on what?

You just pulled that out of your ass.

You're talking out of your ass.

I mean, the October Revolution, it happened in October. The actual first Russian Revolution

happened in November. Much prior before Bolshevik Revolution.

Talking about the February Revolution. Yeah'm talking about the February Revolution.

Yeah.

Yeah, the February Revolution.

Well, what is even the

point that you're making?

I'm making the point

that there was no democratic

legitimation of the

provisional government whatsoever.

The Bolsheviks were genuinely

popular because of their slogan, all power to the Soviets. The Soviets took control of the country across the entire nation. And that was the organ of rule that people actually recognized, not the Duma and not the institutions that were created

by the provisional government.

I mean, the

Bolsheviks were completely

in the cities, the urban centers.

The peasantry had no relation to the Bolsheviks

at all. They were totally just

alien. The notion that there was no relation is false, but the Bolsheviks had a distinct line led by Lenin, which is what distinguished him from all other Marxists.

Eastland and bread. It's essentially just an appeal to populism.

Why are you talking to me? You're just going to keep interrupting me. What do you want? Tell me what you want.

Go ahead. Go ahead. The notion of the democratic dictatorship of the proletariat in the peasantry.

Lenin, in contrast to what you insinuated about being a Placanov follower,

Lenin had a distinct view that instead of waiting for the stage of capitalist development and waiting for the bourgeoisie to seize power, Russia's democratic

revolution that ordinarily should be fulfilled by the bourgeoisie can actually be fulfilled

between an alliance of the proletariat and the peasantry. The peasantry was not yet sufficiently

differentiated or distinguished between

proletarian and bourgeois class

elements. At the proletariat

has the opportunity to lead the peasantry

and lead the proletarian elements taking

form among the peasantry to

create, to accomplish and fulfill the mass popular people's democratic revolution that needs to happen before, you know, a full-on proletarian dictatorship, so to speak, that these things can be combined. You can skip the stage and combine them,

basically. And that was Lenin's view. So in practice, that in the long-term corresponded,

through Stalin's rule, to Soviet power and the Soviet dictatorship being defined by the peasant element.

All the old Bolsheviks who were primarily urban were purged and people who

Russia's actual popular peasant majority

became recruited into the critical

functions of Soviet dictatorship

and Soviets became the ones

who defined Soviet society.

Well, I think you kind of just gave it up

right there because you admitted

essentially that the initial party

was made up of urban

intelligentsia

essentially. All Russia's political

actors, including

the SRs

who were primarily trying to pander

to the peasants, they were all

intelligentsia.

Every single one of them.

Lenin's theory of the vanguard, I think,

is part of this equation because he's not saying that the peasantry or the proletariat even should be ruling, but it's us intellectuals on behalf of the proletariat that are going to leave a revolution.

He's not saying us intellectuals.

He's saying those of us who dedicate

understand the theory. And who understands

theory but intellectuals?

Okay, you cut

me off. It's not simply those who understand

theory. It's those who commit the entirety

of their lives to the party and to the

revolutionary mission. Part of that includes knowing theory. Part of that also includes being a

professional revolutionary who dedicates the entirety of their life to this mission. There's nothing wrong with that.

There's nothing wrong about a society being ruled by people who actually dedicate themselves to the rule of society.

The peasants don't care one bit about this Marxist theory.

It doesn't matter.

Peasants are people who subsistence farm.

They were subsistence farmers.

They were concerned about growing food.

It's like saying that, you know, it's like saying that you know it's like saying that tractor

engineers

are somehow

unrelated to the peasantry

because they do something different

than the peasantry do

it's called a division of labor

both are rooted in work

and in their labor not even in their labor but in the division of labor. Both are rooted in work and in their

labor, not even in their labor, but in the sense of dignity about the work

they do and a sort of like individualism. Which is exactly why the deculicization

happened because... Do you think the Russian peasants were individualistic? Is that what you think?

Not in like a liberal sense, but in a sense of

pride of their own land

and of their own families.

There was no private ownership of land.

I'm talking about

the Kulaks.

Before

collectivization,

private ownership and land was abolished.

Well, you just said that the Sto Leap

and Reforms created this.

Yeah, after the St.

Leap and Reformed.

Yeah, that's correct.

Following the October

Revolution, all land

was declared to be

in common. There was no private ownership

of land.

Yeah, but you still

had the NEP, as you said,

which created a sort of distinction within the peasantry, and that was crushed.

They accelerated the distinction.

Didn't create it.

They created the distinction, and then they crushed it through mass.

Correct.

Because the Kulaks were hideously unpopular

among the peasantry themselves, and they were

retarding the development of Russia's productive

forces.

So there you go. It's the

urban intelligentsia

crushing the peasant that actually

works hard. No, it was Stalin destroying the people who

stood in the way of actually having russia's 90% peasant majority finally involved in the rule of the

state bucarin who wanted to quote unquote leave them aloneukharin, who wanted to, quote unquote, leave them alone. In reality, Bukharin

wanted to shoot them and was brutal toward them. He didn't want peasants anywhere near the state.

Stalin was removing the barriers, both in the urban corps and in the countryside themselves themselves to a merger between the Soviet state power and the popular peasant majority.

The destruction of the Kulaks was democratic.

It was pro people.

Stalin was trying to bring the peasants into the Soviet state.

Instead of just ruling over there.

Because the drafting of the Soviet constitution of 1936 literally involved nationwide discussions and meetings, constant input and feedback by bumfuck

peasants, hillbillies in the middle of fucking nowhere who were empowered with the ability to voice

their input. They have no ability to voice their input if they're afraid that they're going to

get put in a gulag or shot

because they disagreed with

Mr. Stalin.

I mean, it's totally

just like, you mean,

if you understand the history of

how repressive.

Russia did not have a democratic culture at all.

There was no precedent of having a culture.

Why are you invoking a democratic culture?

Russia had no precedent of total free expression.

Since the times of the Tsars,

you had a culture where people

were hesitant to simply

attack the central authority.

And that's not Stalin's fault.

Stalin was pushing things in the opposite direction

of that.

Even while he was creating a

paranoid state where everyone was afraid

that they couldn't... Because of the fucking

same urban intellectuals that you're

talking about, you're claiming Stalin

empowered, which he didn't, who were

constantly fucking plotting and conspiring against Stalin

because he was demoting them and uplifting the peasant.

So does that apply to someone that just writes a letter

where they make a remark, a critique of Stalin?

Stalin had no problem

with people critiquing him.

The problem was that there was

these middlemen

in between Stalin and the masses

who to be sycophantic

and aggrandize their own power

would be very punitive and abusive sometimes

and Stalin at every turn when he finds out about things like this

punishes it and reigns down on it

you need to understand the dynamics of political.

You're so naive.

You don't even understand how politics works.

It's like you don't understand how,

and you have a very popular,

strong central authority like Stalin,

you have people that engage in excesses and abuses

in order to uplift and promote themselves, doing it in the name of Stalin, doing it in the name of the authority.

But in reality, just reproducing their own class interests i mean he would purge he would use people to purge others and then

purge the people that purged them okay based yeah but that's then you can't make a claim to some universal humanity and all of these

marxist slogans because when it's macion it's psychopath did i fucking use slogans holy fuck

and it's not machiavellian, it's just the reality of

Stalin wasn't, how was Stalin Machiavellian?

I actually would challenge you on that.

How was he Machiavellian?

Well, I just gave one example.

He would use this, I mean, Macchiavelli talks about it.

No, he wouldn't use people to purge.

He would.

He would use someone to purge.

No, he would not.

He would not.

Let me just finish this one point.

The people under Stalin were reporting to him that there were plots and coup attempts and conspiracies against the Soviet state.

Well, he would purge people. No, he would not. It would be reported to him that this is happening.

Stalin would then guide and direct to the response of the Soviet state, but then when he would find out that he was being lied to, like, for example, with Yezhov, that's who you're talking, or Yagoda, or Yagoda, or Yezhovhov when he finds out that these people are lying

to him because these are the people

that are reporting to him

they would be brought to justice

there's nothing to Machiavellian about that

and then he would accuse them of excessive

revolutionary zeal

and then have them axed

too which is really just what it is

it's accumulation of power

they would be axed

because they were corrupt and they were

violating Soviet law

it's as simple as that

I think you're corrupt and if you're violating Soviet law

you will be punning

according to the law

I mean

I don't know even know why you're hiding from the Maccoyevillian

because it's a fucking 14-year-old's understanding of politics and how the world works, and I have no patience for it.

He carried, like, a book of Machiavelli by his bedstant, and I think he actually, like, admired these sort of, like, views of, you know, power politics, using people to purge others and then saying that this is revolutionary zeal and purging them. And ultimately, it's everyone is sort of paranoid that they're going to be-

specific fucking case

and your grand

generalization will fall flat on its face

this only works when you're engaging

in stereotypes from the infographics

show on YouTube. You have a

child's understanding of history.

Talk about specifics or don't make generalizations.

I said Ugoda, head of the NKBGD.

Yagoda was corrupt.

Stalin wasn't using Yagoda.

Yugota was in that position because Stalin wasn't a dictator who was handpicking and appointing everyone in the positions that they're in.

You go to objectively,

wormed his way to the top,

through the Soviet bureaucracy,

and then he was making reports to Stalin.

He was making reports to the Soviet leadership about X, Y, and Z happening.

But it turns out you go to himself was a fucking rat.

You go to himself was an infiltrator.

You know, Stalin would approve every one of these purges.

You act like Stalin was just sort of oblivious-tel.

Because he was acting on the information that he is being given.

Oh, I mean, we have the archives opened up and confirmed all of these things.

There is zero evidence that Stalin was acting in a Machiavellian cynical way. He was acting based on the information he was given.

What about the quotas?

What quotas?

There was quotas about the amount of people that should be purged.

There are no quotas for the amount of people who should be killed.

Okay. I mean, if you're just going to disagree with that, I'm going to deny it entirely because it's made up.

Okay, so you're just going to engage in revisionism.

Yes, correct.

Correct.

Because it's completely made up nonsense.

There's nothing else.

You have nothing really else to back up.

Because it's made up and it's fake and it's nonsense.

Okay.

I mean, the Soviet archives can confirm history.

I'll take you to task on that.

Where in the Soviet archives did Stalin have?

I can't find the exact.

You can't find anything because it's made up.

I mean, you can't substantiate any of the

things you're

saying either

that Stalin

didn't know

that these people

were getting

purged.

There's no

reason to think

that you need

to use and

employ logic.

How can Stalin

know beyond what

he's being

what's being

reported to him?

You think Stalin's a God who knows everything at once?

He only knows what people are reporting to him.

How would he know?

You think, or do you think somehow that Stalin, like, beyond the actual existing structure of the of the dictatorship could know if he was being

betrayed or something before it even happened always because you would you would purge someone

for giving okay someone making an offhand remark or someone

sliding him at one point. When has that happened? When did

Stalin purge someone for? When did

Stalin purge someone for making an offhand

remark? What's your source? I would say the old Bolsheviks primarily.

And I think that goes to your point that he saw that they always looked down at Stalin because he wasn't as part of like the sort of upper intelligentsia.

He was from Georgia and whatnot.

I think that's just, I think he would even.

The old Bolsheviks because he made remarks against them.

Is that we were going to commit to?

If that's true, let me ask you a question.

If that's true, there was a famous poet who called Stalin like a fat rat,

and Stalin insisted that he be protected because poets should have the right for free expression and free conscience, and that's what he said.

So if Stalin is purging people because they're making bad remarks against him. Why did he go

out of his way to defend

the artistic autonomy of this poet

who insulted him directly in his poems?

You talk about

logic. That's not actually a

logical argument, because those things can be

simultaneously true. Okay, okay well i'm just

saying you have your understanding of both history and marxism is less than that of a retarded

childs and i will die on that hill okay what about so during the purges when they would force people with confessions torturing them and essentially psychological manipulation to make them to confess to things they didn't do, oh, this person's a spy for the British or for the Germans. They were spies. So you're going to die on that hill.

Yep.

I mean, that's just absurd.

Why is that implausible?

Because, I mean, no one...

Tell me why it's implausible.

You would not expect a state like the Soviet state, which was the enemy of the world's most powerful countries and empires.

You would not expect that the British, who had the world's most sophisticated and advanced intelligence agency for the manipulation for centuries and centuries, for

centuries and centuries, all of these gunpowder empires, Persia, the Mughals, the British

wormed their way into the bureaucracies and had a tried and true track record of just completely infiltrating all the empires and grand states of the world that they wanted to conquer and take over.

They were known for this.

You're telling me it's implausible to think that there were traitors

at high levels in the soviet state that were infiltrators by the british empire and by other

foreign imperialist powerful states you think that's implausible. You think that's unrealistic somehow.

In what world were there have not been infiltrators? You think the British Empire was not

infiltrating the Soviet Union? There's even fucking movies that they make. where they're talking about

Agent 415

and they even have these fucking movies

where they admit it. In what world

was that not happening?

Why would the British not be doing everything

in their fucking power to infiltrate

and destroy that state from

within.

No, they were just hands off. They were just

hands off. They weren't doing anything.

Imperial Japan. Nazi

Germany. Britain. They were just

doing nothing. They were just kind of like, oh, we're just going to be

hands off. Do you actually fucking believe that?

Do you actually fucking believe they had a laissez-faire attitude toward the Soviet state and didn't do everything in their fucking power to try to see it destroyed?

There's just no evidence for that. It's totally irrational.

It's like, how can you even respond to such an irrational?

You are not a human being.

I don't know what to tell you.

Enemy of the people, I guess.

You literally, this is like, I don't have as much patience of Stalin.

You are genuinely retarded.

You know, this is how 50 million people

die because of this. It should have been

500 trillion. This is clearly not

enough because it should have been 500

trillion.

Yeah. Well,

I mean, I hope that sits well in your conscience that

this...

Bro, you are genuinely retarded.

That's what's sitting in my conscience right now.

You're genuinely retarded in your head.

No, because, I mean, you have the same sort of paranoid...

No, like mentally, like actual extra chromosome, like up mentally disabled like actually mentally retarded

you actually think that the insults you actually think that it's not plausible to assume that the

Soviet Union was being infiltrated by the world's foremost imperialist powers.

You have no evidence for them. You haven't substantiated it. And it is totally impossible.

Do you have any evidence for the fact that, like, right now, do you have any evidence for the fact that, like,

there are probably American CIA spies in Iran

who have infiltrated Iran?

I'm sure there are, right?

You're sure there are, though, right?

Because it makes sense that there would be.

So why does that not also hold?

I'm saying that very well could be. But I'm saying that they're very well, have been, is it totally beyond the pale to assume that maybe there was some actual infiltration and that these purges were they're being accused of being foreign spies

maybe that's not so implausible.

It's more like saying the people in your party

are actually foreign spies

and you have British spies within your organization right now.

There probably at least one.

Yeah, and you're close,

but the closest members,

your second in command is actually a spy

on behalf of the British.

Danny Shaw was in the Politburo of our party.

And we think he probably was CIA. And we think

he probably was CIA.

And another guy,

Molera,

he got a knock on the door

from the FBI or something.

And he was also in the

Politburo, and he led our legal department.

I have firsthand experience

with this shit

you think they're so

incompetent

look listen

if these intelligence

agencies are incompetent they're going to get someone as high up as they can

and that's how it fucking works so how to install and these were all his friends back in the day

these not about friends you think these were his comrades they were his comrades and he didn't know

that they were they were spies do communists and comrades...

Okay. The Sandinistas, you know who they fought?

They literally fought former comrades who got fucking butt hurt by organizational disagreements

early on. And these butt hurt fucking wreckers went on to become death squads

and contras.

That's how it works.

People get fucking butt hurt

and fucking bitter.

They don't get their fucking way.

They feel slighted.

They have resentment toward class strata they consider subhuman.

They thought peasants were subhuman.

And here's Stalin uplifting and promoting these people at their expense, constantly limiting their power and uplifting these peripheral people.

And then eventually they grow bitter and they grow cynical.

And they resent Stalin, this Caucasian from the, from fucking Georgia, who looks like Genghis Khan in their mind

who's not this sophisticated

enlightened European Marxist

who's educated and

these fucking old Bolsheviks 90% of them

were fucking educated or sitting in

some fucking cafe in Europe for 90%

of the time.

Stalin, meanwhile, and all his allies,

these were the guys that were roaming the fucking hills of Georgia to rob fucking banks and sitting in Siberia

getting beaten by guards all day,

the fucking frozen tundra.

So you have an acute division within

the Bolshevik party between these European

fairy Marxists and

the actual fucking rugged people

behind enemy lines

fighting in Siberia

and struggling in prison.

And these people eventually, when Stalin consolidates and takes power and limits their

faction and their tendency, they become bitter and cynical and butt hurt.

And what do they fucking do?

They start working with foreign intelligence to take down the Soviet state, whether because they had the intention to take power themselves or they wanted to, you know, destroy it because they considered it an abomination from the Marxist perspective, like you just expressed, or because they, uh, they became genuine cynical turncoats and hired bribed thugs and mercenaries. It's all the same, but these ex-communist, former communist,

but hurt pieces of shit, you know, they're always at the vanguard of anti-communism,

everywhere in the world.

Then why would they confess to their crimes if that was the case?

Because they were caught.

And they thought that by

confessing maybe it'll fucking be easier on them.

I mean, that doesn't really

make sense. Okay.

Because

the points people make is that or no, history has shown that they confessed because

this was their last loyalty to the movement, that, oh, I can go out and I'm sort of like

doing my one last thing that that's contributing.

Okay.

Well, that's a very,

that's a very beautiful poem made by some

petrophile somewhere, but it's not the reality.

It is. I mean,

but everything you've described,

can you not just see how this is

almost just an obsession with power?

That's at the end of the day what it's about.

It's about sort of an obsessive,

sort of like religion of power.

You're just gibbering nonsense.

It's just nonsense.

Psychobabble.

Power is a fundamental quality of existing

as a human being.

What is, what are you even talking? What is power?

Power for its own sake.

What is power?

Ruling and dominating others, essentially.

Okay.

If Stalin's goal was to rule and dominate as many people as he could,

he would have probably pursued Bukharan's line or some other line

that kept the peasants illiterate

and kept them fucking living and

scruling fucking hideous sub like not even conditions fit for human beings he would have

kept them like slaves and totally kept them backward and unable to fucking read or write or have health care.

You admitted yourself that Bukhar and that NEP lifted up the peasants to some degree because it allowed that.

No, it didn't. It did the opposite. It produced a fucking acute crisis where the developmental

retardation of Russia

was being consolidated

by the emergence

of these fucking coocks

in the countryside.

Why do you to steal their food

then if they're so downtrodden it wasn't their food that had to be taken it was their fucking claim on all this land that they owned and the grain searching through people's homes searching through through every cabinet to find grain.

In the family.

We haven't even talked about the Hollidimore yet and the genocide that happened in Ukraine in other places.

I mean, no one will touch this stuff.

Even the left just sees this ideology as totally just nightmare.

There are much of fucking retard subhumans.

I don't recognize them.

I don't know what you're talking about.

The Hallaudmore.

No one will touch it the hallos the goy the goidomor the hallogoy more

so a log going more so you're so you're going to deny that the halladamore happened too

then you're just not living

in reality what do you mean of course I deny

it for a theory that that sort of

valorizes

or exalts reality

so much yeah

I don't understand why

yeah because I have the courage to deny I have the courage to deny the...

I have the courage to deny what Epsteinian pedophiles treat as sacrosent dogma.

This has nothing to do with what...

Even liberalism or America...

I will put my dick on a guillotine

and the guillotine

is suspended in midair

if the halata more happen

the guillotine falls

if it didn't happen it stays in place

so was there no fan

and this is determined by reality.

I will put it, I'll put my

dick right on that guillotine right now.

So you deny that any

famine happened? No, I don't deny

the famine. I deny the notion it was a genocide.

I deny the view that it was caused intentionally.

I deny the view that it was caused to genocide the Ukrainian people.

I do fucking deny that.

I have no problem denying that.

I mean, the only thing that needs to be validated is that one, there was a famine, and two, that they continued collectivization, even when they knew that there wasn't enough grain to feed these people and essentially take away.

It's not fucking true.

It is true. No, it's not.

As soon as reports of the famine actually

reached the center,

all the exports of

grain came to a halt.

I literally debated Drew about this shit, wiped the floor with him.

I'm just retrading old ground. It's so stupid.

I mean, it's not even sort of

up for debate, really. So I don't... Because it's not even sort of up for debate, really.

So I don't...

Because it's...

You live in a retarded La La Land.

It's a historical fact.

I'm living in La La Land.

No one agrees with you that's respectable in society.

I mean, back to the point

you talk about the...

But you know, like in a non-homophobic way,

like all those people are gay.

Like, I don't care what they think.

A respectable society.

Like, I don't give a fuck with those fucking...

Not even respectable society.

Even barbaric society.

They all think that this is just trash.

I've been to Russia.

Everyone loves Stalin.

So it's good enough for me.

I mean,

current Russia is not at all...

I was actually...

Russia and China love Stalin

that's a billion people

I'm pretty sure Indian

likes Stalin too

2 billion people

2 and a half billion people

let's see

I think Africans fuck with Stalin

2 at least half

Putin is not a communist

I don't care.

Three billion people like Stalin.

So let's see.

Who are the people that dislike Stalin?

A bunch of Polish, Ukrainian, and Estonian people.

What is that?

$150.

America.

No, actually, I think Americans don't know who Stalin is.

We know that it's terror.

No, only like 10% of Americans who are educated by pedophile Harvard and other retard institutions have such retarded views.

But the majority of Americans...

Not even at an intellectual level.

At an instinctual level, people are just repulsed by...

That's not true.

They think he's based.

They think he's cool as fuck and he's based.

I mean,

there's just no grounding in reality.

You can build

like castles in your mind and sort of wishcasting

hoping that, that's what you've done.

You're literally wishcasted

Epstein's,

Epstein's castle.

Now, Epstein's castle is on your side.

Epstein probably liked Stalin.

No, he didn't, actually. We could see what he said about Stalin.

He liked Simon Seabag Montefere, the slanderer of Stalin.

No, you probably admired Stalin.

But we have the proof that he didn't, so...

Because both actually are obsessed with power.

Think about it.

Many parallels, actually.

It's just like really gay what you're saying, like, in a non-homophobic way.

It's like super gay.

See, you have to qualify by

not homophobic because you're

a Marxist.

That's actually not true. It's just because

you know, Reditors, I don't

you're going to cry if I don't say that.

So I just have to say that. Yeah, because that's

who's attracted to this ideology.

That's really only the, uh,

that's really not true.

That's really not true.

Well, well

I mean, well, I still wanted to make that point the philosophical claims that you've

previously made about materialism right how can you substantiate your view of materialism if it's just incoherent at some level?

Meaning if it can't actually be coherently understood.

We haven't even begin talking about materialism even one time, so I don't know how you make that statement.

No, because your view that there's no, the dialectical materialism requires that there is no, there's no point that we can say, this is communism is socialism or this is really anything because everything yes we can

how so i'm literally living in communism right now

every breath i take is communism every step i take is communism Will it stay common?

Every breath I take is communism.

Every step I take is communism.

Every fiber of my being is communistic.

Every expenditure of energy and calories and jewels is communist.

Every weight that I lift is communist.

Everything I do is communist. Every word I say is communism. Everything I lift is communist everything I do is communist every word I say

is communism everything I do

is communism I live communism I breathe

communism communism

communism is in front of me right now

instantaneously at all times

I am on the communist path

therefore I'm living in communism

will it remain communist or is there

a potential is there a possibility that communism

will turn into my body is riddled

with bullets i i'll be

on the communist path i'll tell you that much

okay but communism dies with you.

It's not, there's nothing.

I'll go on.

I'll go on picked up by people who come after me.

It'll go on and on forever.

So communism is just the people that have it in their minds.

No, communism is inevitable.

It's always inspiring people to wait.

And what makes it inevitable?

Is it?

The shape of history itself bends in a direction that makes communism

obvious and inevitable. You speak

it out loud. It's like you can keep

denying that we can use the word blue

to describe the blue sky, but eventually

the sky keeps

continuously disclosing

upon us the fact that it's blue and soon enough people learn

that we used to have a word to describe this color and the color is a blue great blue sky and as

temuzun said everything under the great blue sky belongs to communism okay Okay. I mean,

it's almost just like religious language,

but... Yes.

Yes. It is a...

It's more than a religion.

Yeah, communism is a religion. Religion is so much

less than what this is actually. Religion is one division of mental labor.

One division of the human heart.

This is the entire fucking thing.

The entire fucking thing.

More than a religion.

Much more.

Yeah, false religion.

No, no, no. More than a religion. More than false religion. No, no, no.

More than a religion.

Or atheistic.

Communism is the all.

The all.

The religion, the science, the art.

Everything.

It's the all.

Everything concentrated into one.

That's communism.

Okay, so what exactly about history make communism inevitable?

What do you think communism refers to?

It's just the shape of history itself.

It's the common thread that unites the development of all mankind's history thus far.

Ah, so feudalism is communism.

Because we lived in

feudalism. Futalism is a part

of historical... The thing that propelled the

history behind feudalism was

communism. Everything.

The entire history

of private property

was propelled forward

because underlying it

was communism.

The movement and riddle of history.

The movement of history,

the thing that moves history forward, it's communism.

Wow.

So this really is a false religion.

Wow.

But I still, okay, so history itself is communist.

Yes, now you're getting it.

Okay.

I understand that, but

you still think it's a

it's reducible to economic forces.

No, what are we talking about

when we're talking about economics?

Do you even know?

We're talking about, we're talking about when we're talking about economics. Do you even know? We're talking about how people actually reproduce their existence.

No, how actually do they do it? Why are you scared?

How do they do it?

No, because that's the point.

How can you say that the way people live, how they exist their being, how is that

reducible to how they make their money

or how they make their living? There's so much

more to it. It's not reducible to that.

It's just that

it's not reducible to it.

It's that there's a harmonious resonance between

them.

Like the way that we actually fucking reproduce our existence materially obviously creates the context and the staging ground for us to acquire

sensibility and meaningfulness about anything.

Obviously, that creates the critical context that tempers the things that we regard as meaningful.

See, that's where I think the fundamental disagreement is because that just sounds like an abstraction

because the way people's

lives are, it's not, you can't

isolate one variable and say

Oh, this is, nobody said that.

But then how can you

speak of someone as purely a proletariat

or purely...

Nobody has. No Marxist has ever done that.

So do you think a proletariat in somewhere in Malaysia has more in common with someone else from Malaysia or someone from, let's say, the Midwest.

Someone else in Malaysia, because the class struggle is national informed.

This is literally in the Communist Manifesto.

Oh, Jesus Christ.

Okay, so it's national

inform.

Yes. So national

and socialism.

Kind of sounds like... Yeah, so Carl

Marx was the national socialist, right?

No, because I don't think that's what Marx meant.

But it is in the communist manifesto that the class struggle takes a national form.

I think he was mainly talking about 1848 and the way in which revolutions were emerging.

But then why did Marx and Engels in the late 1800s tell the polls that they should focus on the national question?

Because that's the very basic question.

Maybe he thought that was a prerequisite to getting a revolution, but ultimately...

No, he thought it was the very defining context behind class struggle, actually.

Jesus Christ, dude, you're so, like, illiterate.

It's crazy.

So workers of the world unite, which is also in the communist...

I'm so sick of this cookie cutter infographic Marxism that's based on like a bunch of platitudes that are vaguely associated with Marxism.

Workers of the world unite.

Did Marx say that or not?

Yeah, but you don't even know what it means or you lack the context to understand what it means.

I kind of understand why, like, in Lebanon, people just were like,

I'm done with this shit. I'm just going to be like Hezbollah.

Because this shit has become so gay and retarded with people like you who just associate

Marxism with all these like stupid ass cookie cutter platitudes and like cliche tropes.

And it's like anything, any dynamic revolutionary substance is just like reduced to this extremely

formulaic like doctrinaire rigid framework that someone pulled out of their ass has nothing to do

with Karl Marx at all.

And then you're like, well, this is Marxism.

Marxism is this little special division of labor within the entire body of thought of mankind.

When Marxism used to aspire to being holistic and like the all, right?

So if you're like, you know, if you're like some guy in Lebanonban you're like fuck it i'm just going to be with ala hasbalah like the absolute the thing that's the

all that's why it's iran and its allies that actually are revolutionaries today and not these glasses wearing

fucking division of labor pussy

limp-risted bitches

who just confined their activity and their thoughts

to a very narrow

division of labor. Why are they attracted

to Marxism then?

The pussies? you should ask that question the pussies because uh marxism has been hijacked that's why or maybe they find in marxism that exact

uprootedness

that they're seeking. Why did

why did Marxism

crush religion, crush

the traditions of the people?

And this goes back to the point about

economic reductionism. It's

if Marxism doesn't

allow in its system for

just like you're so like out of your

league in this shit it's like you're talking about

a bunch of gibberish that has nothing to do with reality

I mean

you can say that but

communism was the enemy of Christianity

since its beginning.

No, it wasn't.

The enemy of Christianity were the fucking

clergy themselves.

So when Marx said religion is the opium of the masses,

and he said that it's a heart of a heartless world,

and essentially taking the Freuerbach position that religion is just...

He literally was contradicting

Feuerbach. What are you talking about?

He was a disciple of Freerbach.

Yeah, no, he wasn't. He contradicted.

He literally polemicized with Feuerbach.

Oh, he agreed with Forerbach

and then made some critiques, but they

share the same view that the religion is just

an illusion. They don't believe in

God. They don't believe in

the soul, the immortality of the soul.

You don't either.

Yes, I do.

No, you don't. You believe in retarded memes.

That's all you believe in.

That's not true.

I'm actually, I mean, you can, you have no base to say that.

You don't even know me.

Marks believed in God and the soul.

You don't. You believe in fucking slop and gibberish

yeah you believed in the material

soul that's just going to be crushed by the

weight of

what do you believe in the formal soul

what are you juxtaposing to material

spiritual soul in the spiritual what is the spirit

tell me what is the spirit what what is the spirit i mean off the top of my head if you want me to

give you a definition yeah is that an idea because thatonic, pederastic, idolatry that has not...

Oh, I would say that the spirit is the...

Well, in an Aristotelian sense, it's the...

I'd say it's the life No I mean it's hard to

It's the animating quality of

Of the human person

But it's also a sort of spiritual

Essence

What is the spirit?

You keep you saying the spiritual is a spiritual

What is that?

The spirit is the soul's

capacity for what's the soul you don't so you don't believe in a soul i'm asking you to

actually like tell me you're familiar with what these words you're using actually might

possibly the soul is the is the form familiar with what these words you're using actually might possibly...

The soul is the form

Okay, so it's a form.

Okay, so that's Greek heterestrian.

Because we're not just matter.

We're not just brute matter like a machine.

We actually have form. And form is beautiful.

But it's actually the formalistic

idealist perspective that leads

to mechanical outlook. Because the

machine is premised by

specific discrete inputs and outputs

and stuff. That's all rooted in formalism.

You don't know that?

That's not true. You're just

up. I think you're using the wall.

How can you have machines without idealism?

How can you have an ontological primacy,

a metaphysical notion of the primacy of machines

without idealism.

Machines, what is a machine?

Machines have specific discrete premises and measurable outcomes, right?

Well, that's all rooted in the form.

That's rooted in the ideology, the form.

Not necessarily. Yes, forms are forms of measurement. that's rooted in the ideology the form not necessarily

yes forms are forms of measurement

forms are not

simply yes they are forms

are

defined shapes

shapes they're defined appearances that's what a form

is no no you have that wrong because with let's shapes, shapes, their defined appearances. That's what a form is.

No, no, you have that wrong because with, let's say we take the human person, the soul is a living form. It's not sort of dead matter and it's not, but the form is what gives...

Forms are defined. They have a beginning and they have an end that can be defined.

That's what a form is.

Sure, they're defined.

I mean, they're defined only in the sense in which someone actually thinks about a form or engages in philosophy.

But there's nothing intrinsic to a form that's...

No, the boundaries that define a form, if you go back to the Greeks, are the same boundaries that define a thought as an idea. That's what a form is. Forms and ideas are the same thing in Greek philosophy.

No.

A form would just be a way to distinguish

a thing, not even

distinguish, but to sort of...

No, it's not. Yeah, to distinguish a thing from

another thing. Form is not the same as an intelligible.

You got it wrong.

No, but a form is what allows

something to be intelligible. Because the mind

understands forms and the form

and sort of way imprints

on the mind and is intelligible. I mean,

you believe in forms

implicitly because even to have

words and concepts, you're appealing

to forms. Because otherwise, there would be no

way to even have language or to have thought.

Forms in and of themselves don't exist.

Forms refer to things,

determinations that are continually suspended in a relationship

to content that is not itself communicated as a type of information by the appearance. So if you

reduce it all to information theory, which is the thing that actually matters, how nature or human beings are continually informed or impressed or disclosed by the essence of things, how that essence takes shape, how that essence becomes discriminated and intelligible to us, the form of a thing is actually just the after effect of a living essence. And what is material is, matter just refers to the essence. That's all matter is.

Matter is the essence behind the form.

It's not because for example... Matter means.

Matter doesn't refer to discrete substances of nature.

That would be a notion of a formal understanding of nature.

Matter necessarily implies a relationality between the appearance and the essence. And the essence is always something non-reducible to the appearance.

And that non-reducible essence is the material content of any given thing.

Well, no, I'd say that's, that's, I don't agree because, for example, if you take Well, it's

incorrect, you're just objectively wrong.

Because if you think about

a cat or a dog, let's just say

for a state of example,

they have the same

material, like, quality, the same matter, let's say.

But they're differentiated.

We consider them two different

and I'm just going to say you're mentally retarded

and leave it there. That's where

I stop. A cat

and the dog are materially the same.

He's done. It's over.

A cat and a dog are materially the same, but only because of magical forms we can distinguish

them.

But materially, they're the same.

Really?

They're materially the same?

Let's inquire upon and investigate what makes a cat a cat, what makes a dog a dog.

No, materially, they're the same thing.

They just appear differently to us because we're wearing formal goggles.

Okay, sure.

It's 2 a.m. I'm done. I'm done talking with retarded.

This guy's like genuinely, genuinely mentally stunted and retarded.

I just hate these, like, students.

I just hate Redditors

Same guy who debated

I don't remember who this is

I don't remember who this is. I don't know who this is. You know, guys i want to fucking go on youtube

uh maybe tomorrow or something, I don't know.

Oh, yeah, I remain. I don't know why I understand you guys don't like this song I get it But I really like it. Like, and open, I heard an answer

R-E-N-A

R-R-E-N-A

Like, what is this blessing my ears?

Farrow

calling many gather

You cross me for morning

Leading the lambslow

I kept the last timber

I want to tell you my favorite parts

And why I like this song

Oh winds go

A thread at my shoulder

Curp at my knee i'm below me remembered me the valley grew heavy the years more slow i learned the hidden shape of snow under mountain, under the strain,

I heard the road

falling again.

Step after step through

wake and stone,

the many moved

inside my home.

Step after step

the far row came iron answer without an end

you are beyond me i remain All this time

I remain

Under the mountain

Through the plate

Oh that's loose in ledgers fade

You walk beyond me

I remain

All this time I remain all this time.

I remain.

Fireball in many ways.

Mountain opens iron breaks.

I relate.

I remain.

I remain.

I remain. I remain. Like what? Like, what is this blessing my ears? This is so good.

Iron open iron and so

Oh, oh, oh, oh, I remain, I remain

I remain

I remain

Far old calling

Many gather

One moons will shine

Measuring the plane

They gave the hunger a softer name

This shit

Whoa, what the

What is this blessing my ears?

Past every window, past

every claim. I carried

winter inside my flame.

You crossed into distance.

That part goes so fucking hard.

You crossed it. That was so sick

how it did that transition. The many gathered behind my tears Step after step through awake and stone

The many moved inside my own

Step after step the far rose came

Iron answer

Without a name

You are beyond me I regret

All this time I remain

Under the mountain Through the flame

Old deslucent ledgers fade

You walk beyond me

I remain

All this time I remain

My world falling

Many a ways Mountain opens I This part All right Many away

Mountain opens

I embrace

This part

It's going to be the best part

This part

I was like

Woo

What is this blessing my ears ears this is one of the best parts is coming up i just want to i was to tell you this is such a good this is such a good part. Watch. That surf is blown by bone That shit. Oh my God. What is blessing my ears?

Ooh, that goes such a good part. How do y'all not understand this is such a good song?

For morning

the road still came the mountain

Oh

bone by bone

even

a human being could not do that.

That's so good.

That's such a good part.

Open.

I kept my name.

That part's also fucking go hard

I kept my name

I'm you walk beyond me i remain all this time i remain under the mountain through the plate old death's loose in led your faith

You won't be on

I remain

All this night

Same burger and fries music

Bro, fuck you

I want to show you

Some other music

That I'm working on

You guys just like don't like music

You don't understand

I'm trying to think which one is the nice one

is it this one

don't know Don't say my name at the gate

Don't leave a light in the room

I know the road by the dust

I know the hour by the moon

I think this is a better one.

I just like the melody for this one.

Don't save my name at the gate.

Don't leave a light in the room

I know the road by the dust

I know the hour by the moon

Oh

Oh I'm trying to see if it's got the right melody

They came before the dogs could bar

So I'll feed under the orchard wall

My mother kept her eyes on me

Like she already knew it all

There was a song beneath the floor

There was a knock inside my chest

No one spoke of where they'd been

No one asked me to confess

I took the scarf From off the nail

I tied it once around my hand

That's the hook that I like

Where it's like

My man

I took

My hand I'm trying to see if it nails that I took my hand.

I'm trying to see if it nails that hook.

That's what I'm trying to...

My morning they would search the house.

By morning I'd be past the left.

I was not stolen

I was not left

something old woke up in me

and asked to be fair

Who goes there? No one, no one

Who rides out? No one, no one

But the road knows, but the dust knows,

But the blood knows where I'm going.

Who goes there?

No one, no one.

No one.

No one.

I didn't like the hook.

Can I see this one?

Oh, my name. I see this one. No, it's not the right one um no i made these in the car i'm not i made these in the car i'm not

i shouldn't say that i was driving for a long time and while i was driving on a road trip I uh that's usually I make these Suno things while I'm like on a long driving trip

um don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don Don't do Don't Just moving behind it

Oh no horse in the courtyard

No flame in the sky

Just one door open and no goodbye

I don't know who called me

I don't know who knows

But when the drum starts, I go, I go.

I'm not coming home.

I'm not coming home when the drum goes low.

I'm not coming home.

I'm not coming home I'm not coming home

Till them I was here now I'm gone

Gone, gone

Go, go, go, go.

Yeah, the hook failed.

I don't know, guys, why are you saying it's burger music?

I feel like it's not...

This is actually pretty European, actually.

Like, what the fuck are you talking about?

How is this burger?

This is burger?

Would you like a burger with your fries?

I don't understand what you're fucking talking about.

What does that even mean?

Burger music?

Vocalist sounds like a clanker.

That's pretty unavoidable.

Burger music is a Oh music that's

Corny or cheesy

Oh that hurts my feelings

That hurts my feelings

Co-worker vibe

So you're talking about the beef jerky trap

type of music where it's like

Tame on rain on it I want to rap type of music where it's like,

Tame on rain on it.

I want to get a mile big truck.

I'm on the brain on the rain on it.

I got my beep jerky on the big truck.

Like Tom McDonald Imagine Dragons type B

you know what the fuck you're talking about

It's not Imagine Dragons

Bro, okay, you know what?

Halal and Joyer

Give me one song that you have that's good.

Give me, I'm going to look at it up on YouTube.

We're all going to see your music taste.

Tell me a good song.

I will be, I will put your song for everyone to hear.

You're calling my shit burger music.

What do you consider good music?

Tell me. You got the ox cord now let's see you got the ox cord let's see what you consider good music tell me a song right now.

103 Brigade.

What the fuck?ashid bro what the hell

you're bro literally just putting

Islamic music so we can't say it's bad

so we can't say it's bad ala bad.

Yeah, bro, literally just putting the Quran as music and then saying we can't yeah your music tastes is the best because we're not allowed to contradict it right it's just like it's such a cop out someone who doesn't like my music tell me what is a good song. Oh, it's ISIS music. That's crazy. Tell me what's a good song. If my shit is burger music, tell me what's good.

If you're saying my shit is burger music, tell me what's good music.

Top floor track money.

What the fuck is this shit? Ha ha ha. I was a guy called it Burger Music.

I'm like, what's good music?

And he told me to play ISIS music.

Music. fucking

fucking bitch

my section getting strange

I touch down

through the plane

with 50K

Chunky Nick

I ain't planted

on no face

you ain't touch

no pace

and get the fuck

up on my way

Big caps

little traps

A different amounts

Faddy run it in

Give a fuck

with that buddy

count

Just keep it real And I'm Keep a real back I'm gonna keep a real back I'm not going to fuck with that fight down.

Just keep it real and I'm

gonna keep a real back.

I'm a star

in my hood.

No one likes me

and that's a fact.

I was slow

and I got put on

on the track

all a piece on the

act leaving scraps

on their back

you need to

your whole hood.

I'm not going to lie.

That's kind of I'm not gonna lie, that's kinda, okay.

Somebody's cooking in the kitchen, that's kinda, I'm not gonna lie. Okay, Opeth Harvest.

Bro, what the fuck is this shit?

This is some crazy-ass shit. Bro, what the fuck is this shit? away away when I'm going to record

and go ahead and talking child of the girl Under Brighton light Oral I'm talking charles Oh,

Turalink Tural Under Bright Lights by Twirl.

Just like some white people music. Sometimes I can't hope I feel like I don't belong. music music Bro, I can't like that.

Bro, I can't like that shit like what

you know one person like the tartarian song i thought you guys all the Tartaria song.

I thought you guys all hated the Tartaria song.

I abandoned the Tartarius song because everyone fucking didn't like it.

Tartaria, Celestia Tateria

Tartaria

It wasn't that good

honestly

Toteria

Tateria

Tateria

Tartaria

Toteria

Tartaria

I kind of abandoned that shit

because I thought you guys didn't like it

I thought you guys didn't like it diarrhea is crazy oh hiya

is crazy a red dawn

a year

oh yeah

yeah

oh

oh

a red dawn

breaks the veil

provd the star begins to shine

Heaven's will now blaze

Bollywood music

Red Tartaria

Prophecia, Great and Free,

Skyland and sea, Tartaria, Celestia Celestia

the flame of

faith burns red music An ancient hymn Comes of age

and men

Music is Haram, repent

All right guys, I'm fucking ending the stream

Bye

It's fucking 3 a.m.

It is kind of burger

I'm not gonna that That's not a good song I'm not gonna lie It's kind of burger i'm not that that's not a good song i'm not gonna lie it's kind of burger

so you know what's the problem is guys i have a i psychosis

like i will get it caught in the process of making the song too much

and then eventually what will happen is that

I'll lose taste and touch with what actually sounds good

that's why I take breaks from Suno

a lot a lot of the times on Suno I have to like take breaks listening to

real music to get inspiration because if I get caught in the AI loop I'll like my

sensibilities will be will be blunted you know

Anyway guys I'm ending the stream now

I'm gonna go eat

Bye bye