DEBATE NIGHT [2021-10-21]

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by thank you so much man shake you so much man thank you so much thank you man we shate a lot

i don't even tell you a time i don't know

thank you so much man i appreciate you a lot sorry if i i'm not good at thanking people but trust me man i'm grateful thank you so much appreciated it done all right today i had no excuse to be late i'm going to be honest i had absolutely no excuse

to be late

i'm not going to lie to you i had no excuse ok

what happened is that i woke up

and i started playing the mine craft

and i just got addicted

thank you for lawfl

and dude to be fair

to be fair

lot of moves being made in that mincraft server not going to lie to be fair like like uh bra i i've been doing i've been working on all this shuitd i've been adding plug ins i've been adding like mods and our like kingdom is really like they can shape it's super cool dude it's it's like we're making an r p g right

so i spent the day like doing all this crazy shit and i finally made a currency system i made a currency like an exclusive infrared currency that we can we're going to make banks that we can meint and you can buy do it s it's going to be so cool trust me but i don't know today i just i don't know i just sat played my

t we was still getting white listed i have to mok people but i'm going to mob hawks i ust don't know how thean you black one goes but anyway a lot of shit happened when i was playing like a ton of shit like apparently some of my tweets

apparently some of my weeds have caused a huge fucking controversy or something and also i got on the top of boss read it app i just found that out now but i was playing min craft all day i had no fucking idea any that shue was appening but i literally woke up

and

by like three pm i was just playing micicroft playing it for like five hours you know and i wish i could stream it but i can't you know fk here yeah i wish i could stream it but i can't no one wants to see it

but i'm done with it right now you know also i've just been in my own world in my own head you know lately but thank you n all the destiny orbiters covered your twe right

i think we're going to have to spend some time on it on it on the tweet and like all the stuff surrounding it because i don't know why it was so controversial like yeah you not know that i think all these people just think anyone who's an employee is a working class but the circles i come from we already are aware that there's a professional managerial class

that's just separate from the working class like i think people still think they're the same thing they're not the bot like you actually think netflix employ netflix workers are like the working class's a funny talking about i don't understand why i was such a big deal but that's how it happens dude everything i tweet just blows up

while i play my craft and i have no idea why i don't know where we're going to start the wash read it or we're going to start with the tweets i know as we did me too but aesa said she's from ann arbor you know so it's ann arbor for you

and i don't know i don't know what to i don't know what else to say like

if you know what ann arbor is it's just

yeow i don't know what else sy

everyone from michigan gets it you know

if you're not from michigan you might not get it but

yeah it's ann arbor thing

you know

so like all this time

at like ever there's not even like a

there's a complete like a

agreement among every one all this time

that worker just means anyone who's

employed

i thought that

i don't know i thought that was like a frend's thing

so like

yester thy before thing you so much so it holld on so one left this and socialists and communists

are talking about the working class and the proletariat and the workers and they're reading the communist manifesto and you know they're they're reading all this socialist literature from centuries ago

wait

it

they actually have likek

netflix employees in mind

it'sen out that's my favorite graduate student unions graduate students they literally grad students read the communist panifestal like this is about me

wait i didn't know i

oh it really for real that's what they meant by workers google it they maane google coders and engineers

is that what they meant by workers what the like if you w ask a regular american person who's the working class they're going to be like yeah construction workers you know people working with their hands electricians you know factory worre they yeah those are working class jobs

and then apparently on twitter it's different i don't know i guess that's what theory does for you so what theory does apparently right and i don't know where they're getting it from either apparently theory allows you to put on the and i say the word retarded they put on you put on the goggles of stupidity on and

you start to look at the world differently so all a sudden graduate students and google engineers and netflix workers become the working class no is like boss was like listen the vaccines were made by the workers not the pharmaceutical companies but the workers talking about

everybody who's an employee is a worker are you stupid we don't live in an age where like people own people don't own shit in this day and age tover one's of walk a work or even a c e o a worker you dumb ass a c e os a workerbut trumps new

no i didn't and i want i want to be clear with you guys about something right we're going to have a long stream explaining this shit im going have to repeat myself thank you chances thank you chances i

it's not about suffering ok even if the netflix workers were getting paid in dog shit they weren't even getting paid in real money but actual like literal dog shit like the c o netflix had his dog they you chance event ha his dog let's say the c e o of netflix had a dog and the dog took a shit in the bag and that's what they paid these workers in right they didn't get paid mo

and then they're homeless and they they can't afford food and they're suffering theyjen are that still wouldn't change my position their job is a fucking parasuitical job that does not objectively speaking does not produce value and we're going to go into mark's distinction between productive and unproductive labor i'm going to break down to you why job

jobs like all professional managerial jobs and salary jobs have nothing to do with proletarian labor absolutely nothing they have absolutely nothing to do with labor in the proletary in the sense of the working class nothing these are literal when i say parasites like i've written stuff about this ok

so i'm not just calling them names from an objective marxist scientific view from the perspective of marxist scientific materialism they are objectively a class of social parasites in the sense that all they do is suck and recycle the value that is produced by the american working class the

workers of america are feeding these people feeding them and in return they're writing the creative shows on netflix whatever the pot right we're talking at that level of paris that's what i mean by parasitism you know i'm not just calling them a name there's like a scientific framework from which i'm proceeding

and calling them parasites they are literally parasites they do nothing not even from a literary and artistic perspective right from a literary and artistic perspective they don't even produce any content which inspires labor like in a sense like they don't produce content that reproduces the conditions of labor itself

in the sense of like you know like china's wandering earth where you're valorizing you know the even the content thatself is culturally parasitic you know what i mean but ok i if i'm let's say i was like i speak on behalf of twitch streamers right yh i'm a parasite too

i don't produce value i take money i don't produce value yet in terms of the class i belong to

in terms of the class i belong to yeah i'm a parasite too

hell you i'm a parasite

in terms of my class not personally or individually but like

if you take me as a class of what people in my class do

who go on the fucking internet and take money from people

yeah a social parasite

i'm not engaging in any productive labor

you know what i mean

are caretakers p m c no

and you want to know why because caretaking doesn't take that much education to do

would do service workers like cashiers and stuff figure into all this

well i have another theory about that which is my theory of value in the twenty first century

which is more consumption sided

which is basically like

if there are workers it's not because of the jobs they're doing at the floor

right it's because

we have something called the worker citizen let me explain it to you guys like this right

we're going to get really in the nitty gritty of this later right but

i'll answer your question like this

the day

the production of value doesn't happen at the shop floor

it's not happening at the level of one company or one shop floor or onething like this it's happening at an aggregate and even political and national level which means we are entering an age of the worker citizen

the worker citizen is the labor that citizens contribute or sorry the labor that the citizens of a given state are responsible for for the aggregate production of value

okay

and the reason why i mention citizen

is because the way in which come up the commodity is produced today is no longer is and this is going to be really crazy right that i'm going to say this is no longer private in the nineteenth century liberal sense it may still be private but in a radically different way than any of us are familiar with today right remember no one saw

the paradox of classical marxism yet which is how is it that our money isn't backed by fucking gold you guys realize that if our

marx li this is ok this is what marx says in capital or in one of his writings ever gooch one he goes

the currency that serves as the universal currency for the capitalist economy right must be a currency that m crystallizes and embodies within itself a standard of labor the cost of the production of the currency itself according to marx so the cost or the labor time

want to call it of the production of currency itself is going to serve as a universal equivalent for all the other commodities right i forgot which exact passage but yeah so marcha saying is that the reason gold is the universal currency in the at least in so far as how it functions in the capitalist economy is because of the amount

amount of abstract labor crystallized within it or sorry the amount of labor crystallized within it rightd has labor in it embodied in it right because it takes labor to mine the gold or whatever the fok right well now that the government prints money you have to reevaluate how you're looking at it right and no no mark

sisters pdaga marxist has solved this problem

ok there's a smart guy

his name is jehoo and he's a uh

he's a blogger his name is jehu and he had a he had a blogg that was called

the real movement

right

and he theorized

that

we have moved outside of capitalism itself and now that we ve we live in a basically he thinks we live in a fascist

country or whatever

but he says all these things because

for him

ah the fact that we've moved away from the gold standard means

the law of value was no longer operative

it's no longer like what's determining our economy i disagree with him

but he has recognized the significance of this scandal

that we don't have the gold standard any more

this scandal for marxism i mean it is a fundamental scandal right

which people are not talking about

would products like laptops or cars but

no it's hard to explain it but

one of the ways you have to think about fiat currency

is one

there's a difference between

the real value behind a currency and the currency sorry leasre enthusiast donate do had a hard time recentrapling religious history of communism marxis religion be open to discussing how to reconcile islamic marxism en yet reconciling my islamic faith with marcealinism yeah i could i could t

alk about that but i don't know when maybe soon but yeah just not not to go on a detour but i want you guus to understand that i started out as a muslim i became an atheist marxist and then after like nine or eight years i came to the conclusion which by that time

im i had no attachment to islam whatsoever you have to understand i had no attachment islam i had no bias in favor of islam i had no i didn't care about islam right i still kind of don't in a way right i'm still kind of like atheist whatever i'm not a religious guy who goes to the mosque a this but just from the strict standpoint of theory i began to have to entertain the view that

and this is kind of i don't know i don't even know how certain i am of this but that marxism just takes you back to islam but not the islam that you grew up with that you know is prominent today but

uh

what they were talking about in the nineteenth century about religion right marx and his boyer bach and the young he gelians that lile scandal about religion in the nineteenth century this is what i discovered for certain right had nothing to do with religion in historical sense in the nineteenth century it was philosophy it was religion only

so far as it could be translated into the language of philosophy but the fundamentally objective essence of religion was not really being discussed right religion wasn't being discussed like at all right what religions actually about

well anyway i don't want to dee the track right wn't you have more influence on orthoprisraight than islam i'm very perennialist so preenialism basically means you

belong to all you basically just can just pp from one religion to the other and basically understand the common truth and so that's just i don't have like a tribalistic you know you of religion right i'm a perenn perennialist but so yeah of course orth of course you can't understand soviet marxism

leninism without orthodoxy you just can't but anyway what i was saying is that you know what began everything was to me and this was because because of people like nick land and because of the los and all this kind of french theory stuff i came to the conclusion that there really is a very clear

he

there's just something very clearly

monotheistic about marxialism

martisdom is monotheistic it's fundamentally

mane of thears think

right

there's no marxism without monotheism

one this is very important

for marxism

because it's the context of marxis humanism marxist humanism is a monotheistic

a

i don't know i don't know what to called a monotheistic kind of ontology

and if you don't call it an antology it's a metaphysic it's fundamentally

metaphysically monotheistic

right

and the reason i need to clarify this the reason marx has

a very strict assumption of monotheism

is because for him

the highest insight of philosophy ties back to the lowest reality of humanity

that they belong to one reality marx's view

is that philosophy and humanity

are one reality

it belongs to only one reality it's not multiple different realities it's not multiple it's one right

and then without this context there's no meaning to marxism there's no meaning to what marx did with hegel there's absolutely no meaning to it

the b department

and then from there you know when you understand theologically it becomes very clear like

when you understand

ah

when you understand religions are not about

dogmatic beliefs in positive supernatural objects and you just understand religion through the lens of ontology which is to say that when religions are referring to god and and divinity the there speaking ontologically they're referring to being

so one god is like one being for example

they're not referring to you know supernatural positive realities they're speaking they're trying to give expression they're trying to give a language to our reality in a more fundamental way right like the idea that god is someone with whom you can attribute like

you know human intentionality to you know be mad at to be you know like it's a very modern thing is idea i'm angry at god that's an absurdity historic what you mean you're angry at god what does god mean right you know when people talking about god they're trying to refer to something

islamic civilization is the continuity of ironic civilization true that's actually true yes that's true but i would say i would also add and this is what a lot of people neglect rep roman civilization to a lot of people would understand that islam is also responding to

assimilating the greco roman civilization as well and this semitic abrahamic religions are the crossroads between these two you know indo european empires you know between the byzantines and

at that time assasinans right and then judaism was this cross roads between ah

sorry between hellenic civilization you know roman greco hellenic civilization and the semitic civilization right sorry that produced that's what christianity was moseses i know

hate hellenicx yes but that's what produced christianity that mergers what prouce christianity how do we get to this topic we're talking about netflix right yeah netflix workers are not workers it's as simple as that a worker is not simply someone who is employed by another and i

think we need to have an arc where we like debate about this because i don't see how like t me even example this so this is the tweet which like started it all basical right you back to the question about money yeah we're going to get there we're going to like do this one by one this is what this is a tweet that started it all

that i hope netflix fires every single striking worker a k a salaried coddle parasite maybe hire some real talent so we stop getting garbage right and just when you think mas couldn't get any worse

at on point you know don't get why are people always so asked mad about me oh you're fascist you're nazi but you said that last time too why you keep doing this you keep saying this when is the line going to be i want an open message to leftist right now right

every time this happens you do the same thing at what point does it just become ok no matter what he says he's bad you know i mean what i mean to say is like i thought last time was the worst thing that

you know i mean like i thought the thing about luna oi was the wirs thing i gout ever done beyond any reasonable doubt all his credibility is goe you know i mean but apparently this is and it just keeps happening like what are you guys it's going to be like ok i get it oz hates me

he hates everything i stand for he hates and he has nothing to do with us

right

but

so i guess the s okay you're a nazi right

you're a nazy

well

if you're convinced i'm a nazi i thought you were convinced last time clearly you're not convinced because you keep saying it

oh you're naughty you're naughty you're naughty

you're fascist fascist naty fascist

what

i thought that was last time

i thought this what i mean to say is that last time you called me a nazi

and you're doing it again why

why are you doing it again i thought you already decided that last time i thought it was a given basically now right so if you if you sat there and proclaimed

that i was a nazi and i was a fascist

shouldn't it now be a given why wh why is it why are you making it seem like uh

i've changed the standard oh maybe maybe

sorry excuse me

maybe

maybe

this is a possibility right

maybe it's not a given because theyre actually haven't even convinced themselves aman nazi cacuse they can't maintain this baseless a accusation maybe the reason they have to keep calling me this after everything i say is because they can't sustain the claim against me

beuse it's not being reproduced by in reality like maybe they realize themselves i'm not a nazi and they keep having to cope by calling me these fucky names you know i mean but let's look at it so i actually got ratio and because i got ratioed so i got is first of all i got a ratio which means you guys know what that means right

know what it means right so yeat known communist position firing striking workers ok so i'm going to respond to this since this is what ratioed me but now you guys know the drill right dont know the drill right don't know the drill right dont know the drill we're not

letting this dude ratio me this is not this they they coordinated that by the way they coordinated that ratio in their discords so we're going to you know we're going to pt we're going to do some coordinating ourselves so let's let's boost this tweet t's boost it the four hundred five hundred let's boost to the five hundred shouldn't be hard let's boost it to five hundred

right um

let's actually boost it

se

let's uh boost this up you know that they they they they made sure to ratio me

you know i think i poked the beehive becuse i just exposed something

i've just exposed something crazy

which is that's who these people are this is their class

all these lefties have professions similar to the netflix people they are parasites social parasites and i just declared class warfare against them i just declared class war against them

i just declare class war against the professional

managerial

parasites the people who like os the people who like hassan the rank and file the classpaces of the left

you know why i take my views for granted so much because i i literally wrote like small pieces i don't know what you call them they're not books they're small you know they're about twenty thousand words or something and i did it like a few years ago and i was likeh ok and i just they take it for granted now i forgot that most people still think

that netflix employees are working class post them i'm actually finishing one of them now and when i finish it i might just post i was planning on doing a three part series actually there's a post i did reflecting on the

the mid terms and i might just release that one i might just release the one i did about the mid terms

is that when i explained my views about the different classes of america was from like twenty eighteen or something and i just briefly theorized the different classes in america and i did a class analysis of the class situation in america and i might just release that one

yet they are very similar to a labor aristocracy not the same thing i don't think but if they are the evolution of the labor aristocracy iranian revolution book one day i haven'an

islam book in general but i would love to reflect on it no i don't deny the labor astoracy i just think it's the professional managerial

so

u i'm

the american people have voted the american people have spoken they are sick of the professional managerials the cultural parasites the s j ws who are

ruling their media they shuppe spoke on behalf of the working people of america that they've had enough of it and for the first time the tides of battle are turning the sites are in retreat the people are rising even netflix is caving to the will of the people netflix is ca

to the will of the people netflix isn't scared of them anymore they're not scared of these employees anymore because they know that the american people hate those mother bukers idn't got elected leftise the guy you wanted it and let me tell you what's going to happen

the american left

is going to be falcking decimated

the american left

is going to be

that's amazing

it's going to be fuck and destroyed

fight and don't need the leftists any more the corporations don't need to respect the leftists any more

they had no onere to run they spent years in the reign of terror hiding behind the corporations and using the power of the corporations to crack down on everybody these radical liberals these radical liberals these extremist neo liberal foot soldiers of the democrats

now their master is turning against them the people are rising

let's be happy about it my friends let's be happy about it guys we're not going to go down on the sinking ship of the left we're here for the future for the twenty twenties not the twenty tens we're going to accelerate the process of the destruction of the le

left are you sad that the leftists are in retreat are you sad they're in retreat i'm not i see a new opportunity on the horizon i see a blank slate i see something pure something new i see a new morning

i see the morning after the night i see snow swept mountain lear and pure is a desert i see all of the buildings all of the castles and palaces built by the left in the past ten years gling to the ground

down into dust this is our opportunity now this is our age now iw many of you fel like you were bullied by these fucking people on bullied by these people like there's some big

shit even netflix isn't scared of them anymore even netflix now realizes where the people's real sentiments are the people of america stand with dave chapelle the people of america stand with dave chapelle every single striking employee at netflix i'm going to

the replies soon as we beat the ratio they coordinated so we're going to coordinate to let's put it in a discord let's put in the discord

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there's more of them than us that's just the thing there's more of us than them that's just you don't understand there's always been more of us than them they've intimidated people into thinking they were the majority but they're not they're not

we're going to enter a new era w understand and in this new ero you're not going to have to worry about leftists not go have to worry about these cancel warriors or these fake communists these fake socialists who think that these parasites these cotdled parasites are the working class these parasites among

the people eat live read and drink all the labor and the sweat of the real working classse netflix workers they're so coddled in cozy they're living in hollywood theyre living in l a pampered cozy and comfortable as the american

people and the american workers lose their jobs one of these people tell them the said learn to code you're a coal miner in west virginia and you lost everything and these falking people said learn to cod maybe shoul have been so toxic matter of fact maybe you should be a sex worker

that's what they told them that's what they told the people of america the people of america lost their jobs they lost their livelihood they lost everything and one of these falking people tell them you should become a prostitute it's actually not bad be prostitute are you worried about your daughter's future no more jobs you can'

afford education you can't go afford to go into debt i have something for you just sell your daughter to a richuald man prostitution yh the schom said to the people of america and you think i'm going to show deears it is the demand and the will of the people thats

single one col parent sites

foo them all

thu them all

tell out everything

cleen house

fire them all

and then you hire the real talent that comes from the people

yeah

fire all these people and hire some real talent

that's what they're doing in china by the way i don't know if you knew that

china is going through one of these things to all these establishment

pro american liberal schills who used to worship america and worship everything western

who used to sneer down and look down on the people

the cleaning house there firing them all and there drawing the talent from the people fire them all f them all fire them all so they can know fire every single one of these netflix employees so they can know the cold that the american people have known for decades fire them so they

have to get a real job like everybody else fire them so they got to do bach and door dash and all the other things that the people who lost their livelihood and lost their jobs have had to do fire them so they have to work like every other american you're siding with a private corporation doing more than

side of the private corporation demnding this private corporation stack them all unconditionally no paid leave no repor nothing don't give them anything f them all f them all give them nothing don't give them any pay don't give them any departuor pay nothing just fire them outright violate the contracts and

just fire them but i'm advocating for w the shit out of them

that's what i'm advocating for

fire them

unconditional no strings attached

the american people are sick of the tyranny of this tiny class

this class of professional managerial elites breathing down their neck these creative classes

the american people come home from a long day after work and the least they want to see on that falccon t

is something that reflects back to them the minimum of reality and that's what dave chappelle did for the american people they turned on that t v and dave chappelle spoke to them in the language a real

the least that's what the least they deserve the sit on the rass on their couch turn on netflix and they're going to see some fake fantasy s j w whitewash umb bullshit dot list virtue signaling bull how many of you have seen h b o shows they're all a bunch of buck in virtue signaling talent

this shitty falcon shit look at watchman h b os watchman

you'll see all that you see what they're doing you see what they're doing they're turning everything into a shit and we we are supposed to sit solidarity with the workers guys these are the workers oh yes these are the workers

these are the workers guys these are the workers that marx was talking about these are the workers that lennon was talking about you expect us to fuck and believe that you fuck in liars these are not the people marx was talking about the people marx was talking about

believe it or not are to be found in the ranks of maga that's where the workers are the workers are to be found among those who don't even vote to begin with the workers are to be found in a silent majority of the american people who are sick in the bullshit

whether they're sick of trump or still deluded by him a sure aren't to be found among the fucking democrats

for the first time ever the tides are turning against the enemies of the working class and everything stopsy turby the so called communists and the so called socialists are siding with the enemies of the working people and the enemies of the american people

you think being a worker you think being a worker

you think being a worker means working for netflix no one doesn't

going to side with these employees these inentitled parasites of the people

that's what they are by the way the parasites of the people that's the professional managerial class

it doesn't matter who you work for as long as you're compelled to sell your labor whatever your price that's an anarchist revisionism that has nothing to do with marxism nothing

get your garbage out of our fuccing tradition get your garbage out of here

you are not one of us you are not one of us you are not one of us

get the fuck out of here

with your anarchies bullshit

anyone who sounds there you are compelled to work for netflix you stupid pussy even if i entertained your bankrupt anarchal fuck and stupid literature you're not compelled to work for netflix you dumb fuck you red or something you cod still live doing that

who compels you to work for netflix who compells you to work for netflix who compells you to work for netflix shot the fo up this

so on forced you to work for the video game company you just had to work for blizzard you just had to work for activision you just hadd you just had to work for google you had no other choice it was either starvation or work for google you had no choice had google forced you the google ass came when you were starving he said you wanted

job kid ot yeah this is the only way you're going to eat right stupid fuck you know how many people in america would fuck and give everything to have those jobs you want to know how many people in america would do anything to have these

jobs these entitled privilege mo the fokers it's like me saying i'm a i'm a worker and i'm compelled to collect subs from the chat guys i'm compelled i'm the victim here i had no choice let me tell my viewer base who actually do real jobs work eight hours a day oftentimes more that i'm the one

impelled many people would love to sit on the computer and earn sobs on

you dumb folx

yeah just like ius i'm exploited two cents an hour exactly

yeah and this is the bucking this is the aultimate insult and slap in the face of the working people of america you want to know what there are strikes going down across the country of people protesting the vaccine mandate

side that the american leftist state in no strikes and by the way those are real workers too the real workers on strike across the country over vaccine mandates and other things and their story is a race

for these netflix sc these scum of netflix john deers on strike the were real working classes on strike the real working class is on strike and these netflix sm w this probably with the backing of the state department and the cia and whever the

fuck ouss to distract you from the fact these are psychological operation to ditch distract from the real strikes going on across all of america the real

workers are on strike and they did this shit to distract you from it

the american public the american people love dave chappelle and this my friends is the dividing line look this is the cross upon which i am crucified

ready

i will tell you the cross upon which

i

andm crucified i has we infrared

i pause

love the people i love the american people i don't care how reactionary how ignorant how prejudiced how deluded they are i love the people i love the american people unconditionally i love the american people

and for this reason this is the cross upon which they crucify me i stand with the people i trust the people and i believe in the people i believe in their innocence i believe in the innocence of the people when they see dave chapelle and they go he's speaking the truth he's speaking realness i' belive

ing in a fake world and he's speaking realness

and these

vampires

never sights of the working people

the professional managerial class they have nothing but venomous contempte and hatred for the american people

someone wants to debate i know we're going to have plenty of debates soon as we get this ratio going we're going to have plenty plenty of debates

let me tell you what's going on in our discord because i did this tweet because of this swet these people have come into our discord and spa swas the goes and spamed porn and we know we have confirmation truth it's that because iclare war on the professional managerial class their class ina

class this touches their heartstrings i hit their nerve they win our discord and they're spamming the flag of german nazism because they are fucking nazis they are the heirs of hitler and they are the heirs of german fascism and german nazism

the nazis they were above all the people of the world the nazis created an airy fairy kingdom upon which they elevated form over content they elevated deals over reality they elevated this

narrow insular instus purity over material truth and these people these gatekeeping leftists with their insular incestuous pure culture are trying to create their own master race a master race

we will persevere over the blue haired nazis the same way the soviet red army firs severed over the real nazis we will triumph over them

infrared is the spiritual vanguard of the american people the spiritual vanguard of the american working class and we will defeat the blue haired nazis we will defeat that we will not let them win we will not let them win we will not b the enime cartoon people whin we will not let the cartoon

i pictures when we will not let the enemy profile pictures when we will not let these scumbags falked up disgusting de ranged evil bitter people win

to matter of

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don't one to trust

you

yes

not in your home

the heroism of the american working class striking around the whole country is being arased stamped upon and eliminated because the

modeled salary parasites at netflix want to make a mockery of the labor struggles and history of the glorious history of the american working class

they they hold these signs and they sing the songs of america's working class they are not the working class they have nothing to do with the working class the scum of scum

thank you denibal master a great the dignity i wish i had we couldn't

ve dreams with i wish i had e would tell me what to feel to is re i wish i had

the guy deleted his tweet which guy what guy no he didn't delet sh pro sh walked you

we

in the universities these people congregated around and dusted off the books of marxism and narcissistically they said this is about me this is about graduate students this is about professionals this is about netflix workers

these tobs but the archaeologists of europe cover ancient courses in the tombs of parohs in egypt little did they know that these books these dusty books they have uncovered w taine the key to their destruction as a cli

they will forget

they will regret

ever having slandered the name of marxism

they will regret it the will regret it

when they learn what marxism is really about

and it's about their destruction and their liquidation as a class shut the fuck p bitch no one's going to hear your don't know i took your money to stupid bitch b the way senseless streamer i know i hit a fuck and nerve youre ging fired you frockt parasite you're getting fired to when this economy tanks you people you

useless professions who create no value and offer nothing to this fucking country you're going to be sacked fs and you're going to be eating shit on the fucking ground you have no useful skills you are not going to survive the current economic crisis you're not going to really make you be eating shit on the fucking ground

i love to see these netflix workers get off their fuck and ass and take on a real job

god forbid imagine if they were forced to work the jobs of the american people imagine if they worked at an auto plant imagine if they worked as construction workers hah imagine if they took real jobs imagine if they were pickin fruits as farmers like all those people in california do hah imagine if they were moviing crates moviing boxes imagine if they were even ober eating or door dashing

even something like that why don't you imagine it you think they would what they do they're going to want strike they're going to complain ah my hands are soft my hands my hands are hurting imagine if they were forced to go down and learn from the people and do the work the people have to do

just like the red princes the sons and daughters of china's ruling class were sent down to the countryside in china the work with their hands among the chinese peasants and the chinese people well

we saw what happened with one of those one of those princes and yes they are a prince a real prince they went down they spent a decade or more learning from the people and they arose after replenishing themselves in the soil of the chinese people

as the future leader of all of china and now he's leading them to a glorious future as we are rotting

and writing

amidst of filth and garbage

that is the american lift

bas

rising in forra eight s u n g o r i l l

bells are ringing but the blood

stuf

they're working overtime in their the ratial me hope you know that i hope you know they're coordinating and working overtime to do it

you t

i want you guys to remember something yes i'm still going to be debating destiny i want you all to remind remember something these same employees of netflix the protesting thevehipll but when netflix gave the green light to j

the wann't even so much as a peep from the so called morally crusading workers when netflix released a pedophile show the so called workers of netflix didn't say shit

we're going at five hundred or this

stream is not progressing five hundred or there's going to be no progress five hundred or we don't progress reaper with the five reaper

the five thank you so much we go to five hundred everyone do their part five hundred five hundred

thank you eastern easternestpreciate infra wants you

to like this week i got a new book in the mail

let me show you my book that i got and it's related trust me it's related

i'm going to show you

the film workers

shut the fock up they're not fucking protesting

over conditions their protesting

over dave shabelle so shut the fuck up and stop lying

i'll tell you what happened in the great history

of ggskan picture the world a world of decadence corruption where the lazy pin candid ruled over all of humanity and the one

they called temp was born was born in a corrupt world a world of a complacent negtve incessuous selfish ruling class he rose up he

defeated all of the cons of mongolia and rose just like the netlix workers are striking just like the so called netflix workers are striking the aristocrats

the lazy the complacent the corrupt the elites were also striking and while they were striking the mongols broke through their gates and conquered the known world

netflix as ale must await the same fate as the library of baghdad you think i have solidarity with these workers i call for the dismantlement of netflix and the

o they rob the american people they robbed us we used to be able to pirate everything and they robbed us with streaming screaming musy can mo instead of improving the technologies making

us pay rent every buck in month so we could feed these lazy complacent p what at large in fact fok sd netflix we pay rent for something that should be free they can make it all free but we have to pay for these fat asses and sit around at netflix h q i personally think

in that we need a morning closeing and me in shot fok bitch

n the reason the brakes are going up

we're being ripped off we have to pay more money for netflix every month because these fat asses

o

haggie haggi thank you so much holy shit

thank you so much appreciate you

when

thank you so much

they cose to fire me

on a cross of truth

and here i stand here i sit

i rise the next day anyway

we're getting to five hundred likes

we're did into five hundred lights

your kan commands you to win the glorious spoils of the info war five hundred likes they think we're small it's true infrared alone

isn't that big there's more of them there's more of hassan there's more of voush and destiny and whe are the fuk auss yeah there's more but wait until we get on top of our horses and we ride we are nomads of the internet

with pen

we ride in small numbers but each village we conquer as to our army each city we pillage and plunder ots to the war chest and before you know it we will have conquered everything under the blue sky

cyberspace is more of them for now wait until we reach the american people

we will go seaboard to seaboard to reach out to the vast untapped silent majority and when they arise to our calling and when we reach them like a lightning bolt reaches the most ingenious soil of a people our ranks will swell

in the millions your goal isn't to make friends with fugk in lefti your goal is to reach the american people is when that the su will be

the american people don't know about infrared yet

they don't know

what infrared is they don't know that we will be their greatest fighters their greatest warriors their greatest defenders their greatest protectors just like they have an elite we will be the elite of the work

class the best the tohest the brightest the strongest just like the bhes was he has a deep state we will have our own deep state not like the boes was he has culture warriors at netflix we will have our own culture warriors they don't know

about us yet the american people the american working class doesn't know about us yet but when they do when they realize that across the horizon there existed a see a sea that would give rise

finally a third party that will represent america's working people our ranks will swell and it will be but the snap of my fingers i will get tweets but ten thousand likes

i don't know if you're lazy

i dunno if he need a pick up the pace

wo call your family members who like his tweet

is your grandma asleep

what

get everyone you know to like this week

everyone you know

didn't you just go to your grandpa's funeral go back and his coffin

what gop granmp

n'll wake up and you'll do this go to the tomb of your ancestors and the spirit will rise and they' all light

andverky

for the firing of an ino not only do i advocate they should be fired co be arrested manbe should be arrested they were responsible for utes apile fil we pedophilia is illegal in the s regate for an investigation into all netflix employees

they slandered asonge they put all this filth on their fucking website but finally when dave chapelle

the hero of the working class it is an specialin strag all at the same time that the american people around the country are on strike over these vaccine mandates

debate with desinyes next week eighteen more lights sixteen more liights

i don't know the topic

ws the fucking

cry over these fucking

entitled privileged netflix fox

who released judy

that's what i'm supposed to falk and cry over

i want you guys to know that we're in the twenty twenties the fake socialists the bourgeois socialist

the petite bogea cool lock professional managerial cool locks will be smothered under the fist of the american working class they will be pulverrized into smithereens at which point they will scatter to the winds and be forced to know the wl outdoors

that they for so long found privileged refuge from

m

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plce two three two with the ten

holy fox

imagine claiming disappoint workers workers they're not workers dums

they're not workers any more than jeff basl's is they're not falcon workers they're not falcon workers they're not falcon workers they are not the falcon working class they will never be the working class

more lights d g g are attacking him where they attacking him in the read it the little copium bitch as read it d g d g g are but

neoliberals and they're siding with the nextlice wekers what of that buckin tell you are what does that tell you we represent the working class we represent the working class

thank you jaazan where are they fucking attacking him

doesn't know what a worker is you don't fuck you know what a worker is you dumb fuck

you don't know what a falcon worker is you stupid bitch

what do you fucking know about workers you think a worker is just anyone who's employed that's not fucking true

a workers just anyone who is employed that's what the working class means let me break this down theoretically since since you don't want all the rhetoric and shit i can do theory w to do theory let's break it down along all the facets the first one is going to be

the sociological and cultural connotations of the working class story obviously we know that netflix people don't satisfy that the working class at that time were people who came from the countryside with absolutely fucking nothing and from the pirs from the least quantum of labor least quantum of unskilled labor they were hired and thrown into facorty

factories and those a the working class and over the course of decades they waged valiance and heroic struggles to improve their conditions they drew their ranks from the broad strata of the people

thank you sh once you get in v c proto you stupid pussy the working class used to come from the broad strata of the american people they weren't these fucking privileged strata professionals they weret privileged simple as that they didn't come from this privileged strata strata they weren't educated they didn't deal any of that fucking bolls they

work with their fucking hands then from the perspective of marxis theory of value netflix employees do not produce value and the reason we know that is because the manner by which netflix generates an income isn't through the traditional capitalist form of valorization whatsoever it's a form of rentersm digital rentersm that's based on intellectual property

do know netflix doesn't fuck and make money based on what the workers are doing leftist want to lie to you and make it seem like the necessity of the worker determines that the law of value all the profits are coming from the res not true march actually describes how the law of value works and what differentiates productive from unproductve

the labor thank you jash

word salad you're not going to debate me get the fock out of my shack little b you have fuckm and you lose your job in the coming economic crisis you're losing your job and you'r fougt your fug your faugt and you will have deserved you're actually you are economically f

you're going to lose your fuck and job you going to lose everything you fuck and social parasite bitch the conversion of a material into a product light and sound is turned into a visual film

the that's productive labor no it's fucking not you dumb fuck

why don't you read marks and come back to me you stupid bitch instead of just trying to speculate on what

actual productive labor means he wrote about it

he literly said the content is irrelevant

it had to do with capital's process of self valorization

that's what determines

labor as productive labor

when labor is exchanged for capital and not just money

when it's exchanged for capital

when labor is labor as capital

you know what that means right

marsing and writ about movies thus it's not valid labor

you stupid fok is that what i

stupid falking don bitch get in my falkin v c and maybe i'll tell you about what i just falckin said fifteen seconds ago you stupid pitch i said he said the content the material content so far as natural science is concerned is entirely falcing irrelevant

onein sound all that has nothing to do with it

the stupid pussy is waiting in my v c good

we'rell fucking pussy little bitch

what' a stupid fuck

m yah speak

im mits smacking this bar as i can tell

oh no are you playing d m c a music

oh no it's dmc a music

oh no

oh no see this is what they have to offer to debate me oh no

i'm so scared i you're gonn to play that music

i am so scared of that mususic

wow i'm so scared of that music is stupid bits i just took your manhood

i just thok your man would

i just took your fuck in manal you're not man anymore i just took it from you

i just took you fuck in manhood by the way

i looked aths

he yanked your fuck in manhood

right out from you

you don't you're not a man anymore you know that

i just pok your manhood

then see that

fancy that

fancy that they're all pedophile defenders

fancy that they are bunch of pedophile defenders

fancy other wunch a pro pedophile pedophile defenders

fancy that

fancy that they're defending the people who green lighted judy's on netflix

fan see that

fancy that

low bits

don't even fuck and know what you're talking about

finally here's the vouch here's the vouch tweet

us's the vouch

ready for vouch

we're not even we're at part one that was part one ready for part two

here's part two

bas

for the big booty bank youstic

speaking

oh

pedophiles

speaking of a bunch of pedophiles

medo files

pederal file defenders

pedophile apologizers

edophile supporters

and known pedalphiles themselves

but he don't feel you up

down with the fake socialist pedophiles speak of the devil you i speak of the devil

speaking of

petopiliate

meedal file supporters

speaking of pedophile apologies

speaking of

uh the apologizes of uh child abuse

yeah boss

your your discord messages are still in destiny's discord hope you know that

your messenges are still in destiny's discourd server

they didn't get the lead advich

we can still look at him now vouch

we can still look at him now

one thousand upvotes

red fascist infrared calls netflix workers parasite while striking what a pathetic guy

oh i'm sorry

ba

the the nisk thank you so much

a parasite was too too much of a word right i should rephrase

what i called

the netflix employees that are currently on strike in protest of dave chapelle's comedy because parasite yeah that's

that's just too much right i'll rephrase it ready

bunch of useless razy vampire parsite fat fuck

pices a shit less than a shit on my falcc and shoe useless unproductive producing nothing of worur falking society doesn't produce any fuking value in the scientific sense of marxism but a useless fucking completely worthless people

that's what i meant to say

that's what i meant to say

that's actually what i meant to say

i'm going to down doo you little bitch

down do the bitch

guys this is this is the this is the people getting behind the netflix train solidarity forerever solidarity forerever netflix employees are the working class we are true workers and we're larping we are the working class when union movements and songs hundred years ago weres commenced they were

are all talking about us

when marks and angles wrote the communist manifesto they were actually talking about graduate students and they were referring to people like me who are a bunch of coudle parasites

when we get hired by a lousy boss we come plain in bitch even though we can't do none we're not workers ourselves but we have to get hired still because we have to work for ra bos we are met youker we are soy boy ba we

have to work for a bosby cause we can't do anything ourselves

un like america's working class we elevated ourselves with our mind's creative labor and mental labor is the true working class

red rising star donated three dollars

these people think unions are always revolutionary

thettentfondon point out in imperialized countries' unions were often in line with the interests of the imperialist controlled industries

ideologically these people thank you red rising there appreciate you right listen guys

durring the great labur battles of a hundred years ago they were actually talking about pink hair blue haired coddled parirasites let's go everyone hipsters are the real wers hipsters are the real wurers you are

n know about the working class go to a google h q

i work f fase but

i work for faes book i am a real worker we are the working class solidarity

solidarity

allright guys i have another song ready

ready i have a song

i have another song

i have another song on my sleep riddy

this

ok i'm going to sing it ready

th

i dreamed i saw a yoseenas

a live and ready with glee

she said the workers

of google and a

and all

are the true working class

the democrats

and all above are fighting in solidarity

as the true working class of history aligns to geth now

allince to gather now

when dave chapelle released a special that hurt all of our feelings that was exactly like coal miners

who were fighting for livable working conditions

in which they would not get diseases and die

the workers of the past who were struggleing for dignity are exactly like

the crybailies

cry bullies

who are whining and crying and bitching that dave chapw hurt their feeling

that dave chapelle heart their feel

now ready

one

two three

four

let's go bread tube forever the workers on strike

down with dave chapelle white

left this unite and we know what's best for all the black people in america dave chapelle is actually white dave chapelle

he is a

i don't know how the rest of it goes

alright hon let me think of more let me think of more ready

let me think a more

let me think of more

bas

all right let's do it

all right all the netflix were

and all the people on office chairs

all right the people working with their pinkies and have them

pink is ten

all the grad you with students studiously writing dogshit paper and all the netflix create workers who are making cuies to working class comes togainre the

nerve of siliconva the gogle workers and that face b are the heirs of the working class the prolear actu

have blue hair and b glasses as j w you are rise into the air

the red fascist infurred wants to divide the true working class but we will not let him do google rerat the vanguard we are riseing and fi

thing but we are mostly ol b were getting there more slowly we are

hipsters in p we are the

same as the workkers from a hundred years ago they all agree with me that my dad is an asphole

my mam

and ded all a reactionary i am rebelling against them

you will not assume

things such as the colur of my hair

and i won't

let you take

down the struggles of the true working class dave sh pll is pretty much the same as a child labor sweatshop

owner from fift two hundred years ago dave chapelle

is the modern day robber barons of the age he a of our feelelings and that's the exact same thing as the union struggles of the past

the're going to fight the capitalist dave chapelle guys

the workers are going to win

the capitol state jipat won't win guys the workers are going to win

okay

you know her come guys

i'm a worker just do with me guys just do with me

you know b your chair we're not going to take this red fashion i worker

okay

i

working class me it's about me marx was writing about me because i

own the company i work at

and because i don't owe it

i'm o

what march was talking about

you w

you know what it's time form antipa it's time for

work hasinoids bt

tave chapelle

just say something i don't agree with

just like the working class union gys in the past

who were fighting against the capitalist bosses

i'm the working class ok

aantifa let me let me get into antifa

a ame and tifa okay

withony twy dollars and thirty six cents

ostrom inferreno revived the american folk tradition

ewo

workers i am the working class

why you do this

we're the s

what're going to stop with netflix

the networks hill autonomous zone workers unite indigenous people

b i p o c

that

i am the working class

well

while you sit on your computer

i'm out here doing real revolution

oh sorry

i'm really obese don't be fat hbic

don't be fatphobic

there is no fat phobi allowed

no fat will be allowed

stop it

stop it

a

have

many vegan make chickens

ah

and if you take them away it's a pression

b

what cars

hell the workers

we can do it

no

ok

rey

we're going to do a thing hard

the working class is striking and we're going to beat the bosses

down with capitalism

down with capitalism

okay

right

mm

but

ok

okay

ok one last time

oh my si

and and tea

n

what

indigenous b ipot

b i pl c

okay

y

by the by

ok one more time

more time

ok

okay

okay

y san

you bucking shitlord halls gone

ourz is gone ok

i managed

the infiltrate

b

red bashes tanky

known as haz from infrared

i infiltrated his apartment

and

he's gone oka

b g g

vouch

if you guys are watching

antipa is in control

and heep was in control ok

we're in control of the infradtreay now

o

we're about to change the curriculum

we are going to change the curriculum ok

bersing

first things first

all workers are valid

you're trying to divide workers between

actual workers and

salariy professionals that i just decided to call workers ok

they are all valid oky

the working class

is pretty much

a

cultural identity

and i identify as a worker in

you know

i identifyed as a worker

and my identity is valid ok

and

solidarity

i have so much excitement and solidarity

for all of the netflix workers

who are out there striking

for better conditions against

the

billion dollar capitalist bosses at netflix and i hope they turn netflix

int a worker cooperative

where

blue hair bird brain pink

pair dumb asses

ahh

we'll have all the creative control now

i am not a racist

i am not a racist

but

i've noticed

that

the most popular shows on netflix

are coming from south korea and spain ok

and

they're just not as enlightened as us americans ok

you know

all these

south korean shows

they don't give a shit

about

the struggle of

marginalized communities

and be i p o c and queer folk

and

none of their shows seem to be about that

okay

and

you know

those people in south korea

there look look

i'm going to take

the woke man's burden i'm sorry not man not man

i excuse me

i didn't preface my pronouns excuse me

the walk

pardon

oh

going to south korea

and teaching them

the ways

oh

indigenous

we're a liberation theory and anarcho

vouch h vouch

anarchobout bayanism and and

streamers like bowch

because

as bouch said

south korea is a very conservative country

they are not as enlightened as we are we are more progressive we are better than they are pretty much

i'm not racist ok

i believe in

not

nobody talks about the indigenous people

in

uh korea

and south koreans are settler colonialists

upon the indigenous

people like me

and i'm indigenous because

you know

my grandpa fought in the korean war and

we were fighting the red fash

north koreans

and

you know

they were red fascists ok we had we had no choice

anyway

anyway sorry

i do that sometimes

anyway

we're going to nw that we've turned

netflix into a worker's cooperative

and we've

socializ the means of production

so the workers on it now and not the bosses

we're going to make some changes aund here ok

first change

ris a change's going on

is

no more south korean shows

yeah that's right

until those south koreans learned to be as loce as us

we're not going to let these foreigners

make

aur't content on netflix anymore

matter of fact

i think

we're going to build a wall

around netflix so only the wolke people

like us americans

we'll be able to make content

and matter of fact

look i'm not racist but dave chapelle

for some odd reason

he's just not enlightened like e

okay

itch you pell

you knowh misn was a pattern like that that if a red guy

that hasgi that red fascist

you know maybe if he came from a

more

repentant

cultural background

and not from the deserts of the middle east

maybe that guy

infrared he comes from a very toxic

conservative

bash culture

maybe if he was raised in a moor

a repentant culture like me

he would

have the empathy to understand

that

you shouldn't be

well i'm not racist guys i'm not racist i'm talking about infraret ok

influenzo red fash and he's a nazi ok

i mean

thanks

i'm two percent indigenous okay

stop

i'm not a racist

ok itvery red's the bad guy here not me

okay

anyway

that the know that dave chapelle guy

i don't know what it this

i don't know what it is

but

i just feel like

mm

i don't know

i don't know

he's just really not sensitive

and he's punching down at me

and i'm the real victim here and you know ave chappelle

you know

he needs to check his privilege

he really needs to check his privilege

okay

and

so

look look

look hear me out hear me out

it's not racist just hear me out ok just hear me

hi um

i was considering that

we're only going to have comedy specials

on netflix by

mm

indigenous

white queer folk

ok listen i know it sounds bad i know it sounds bad

what

look

g chapelle

he

kp proved

that we have a long way to go to educate

these other people youow

these other people like the infrared hos guy

he's a he comes from a foreign culture

into our walkways and until they do that

look ok look so here's what's on the itinerary

we are going to build a wall around netflix

no more south korean shows no more shows from spain they're not welkenough

they are not progressive

and not

at therere to conservative

and then

now when it comes to the comedy specials

work

ok

look

yes

sorry

i'm sorry

'm sorry it just happens

the i break this fk sorry it just happens ok

it t happens

don't you dare talk about

look

luk

i know how it sounds okay

but for now

we're only going to have indigenous

white querful

okay

and the reason why we're only going to hire white people now

is because

not because we like white people i hate white people i'm white and i hate

i have so much white guilt ok

what

the reason why

i think we need to only have white people on netflix right now

is

well

what listen

white people are just more self aware and repentant of their own evil

and people like infrared has

that guy

because he comes from a uh

you know barbaric

culture

i mean i'm not sr i men that's a i mean

it's not i'm not a cist okay

but because of that

he doesn't have as much guilt or repentance that i do

and because i'm more guilty

and repentant

i'm actually better than everyone else

okay

and

dave chappelle what is he guilty of he's not guilty of anything

you know

he's not guilty

so

and look

we need a put

thk lok

we're going to put a temporary shutdown

on

muslims from coming to netflix until we can figure out what's going on ok

look look the workers are taking over netflix

this is jus what of this is what's got to happen ok

ok okay so let's let's

go down the list of the itinerary

some of the things that are on the itinerary ready

first thing

um

we're going to build a wall around netflix

no more coroners

a who are not

walk

and american enough i mean

i mean i hate america but

they're just not they're not they're not progressive enough ok

south korea no more that's it

in a squid game no

there were there were no clear people in squid gate you ever notice that

there were no queer people in squid gag you ever noticed that

anyway im

ah

not we're not letting them

make our movies anymore

and on

nothing is

the second thing is that o

well

um

we're only going to have white people do comedy specials now ok ok it sounds racist but it's only a temporary measure because

we're going to educate we're going to take on the wok man's burden of

sorry the walke

persons

the wok folks burden of educating other people

and

and on

ah

finally

and this is the last thing is there

we need to put a shutdown on

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i want to build a wall around netflix

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the indigenous people

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guys

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and im waran tifa we fight fascists we fight white supremacists

and we fight bigots

who are

xenophobic

and luck

we're going to pay a visit to the mosque

and we're going to tell those people at the mosque

that they'd better

change their ways

or else because now i don't know what

desert they came from but now that they're in my country

you're going to have to learn

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and

there was this antifa guy

that basically ambushed me

like out of the blue right completely just ambushed me

and on

i was knocked out col for like thirty five minutes thank you lt on for the t appreciate your man

i was knocked out cold that whole time

so i don't know what happened

i just got back

i'm so it's so weird that the views didn't drop off because the stream was there wasn't a stream right it was just you weren't seeing anything

it the stream was empty right

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there's four hundred and sixty five kes

you're saying people don't like it

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yeah

again i don't know why this is so controversial because

someone wants to debate me apparently

wants to debate me

you can debate me now if you want

you can debate me now

you wanted to beas

thank you trav

thank you so much trap appreciate you

whoever wants to debate me can debaate me not

but um i don't know why this is so controversial

you know i can explain it to you if you want

but

it's not enough just to be hired

to have a wage

there's a very specific reason why in marx this time

the mass of people who were being hired for a living

were proletariats and the reason was because there was a process

of converting

its older form of small proprietorship and earlier forms of

you know making a living into just

raw abstract whatever proletarian wage labor

we live in a society where now where thing everything is so socialized

everyone

works for a wage every type of

et um

profession

is

hired somehow right

every single profession now is paid

in a salary or in a wage or has become like abstract right

but here's the thing that's even worse is this even not necessarily true

like

we i'll tell you why it's not necessarily true

right

the so called labor of a doctor and the labor of

a netflix worker is not commensurate

these are not forms of labor

that belong to the same abstract labor

abstract labor is the least quantum of unskilled labor

these are qualitatively different forms of labor not only in terms of like

what they do that's obvious

but in terms of how they're denominated how they're paid for how how much you get in return for them it's not like

you have on the one hand a capitalist who is like oh let me hire this doctor let me hire this lawyer

let me hire this

netflix worker all for the same

selval valorizing process of capital accumulation

if you're a doctor you're going to work for a very specific type of institution

um

a very specific type of company

which we hasn't which isn't liquefying all relations constitu of the community

for the pursuit of profit alone

so in this sense we have

enter this kind of return to the pre capitalist

form of production

of c m c whi's no longer like

all relations are being converted into forms of wage labor

that are commensurate with each other in the form of exchange

their exchange value

they're qualitatively different right

person wants to debate in the show quee ok let's do it

what a dumb fock

on mute

what do you want

trans issues whye

because that's what i usually talk about on here i joined the server what i do i do want this what i talk about

that's what i talk aboutk

yeah um i joined the server because i saw

because uh

a video against

are it was you and prospective philosophy

and then

i watched that todate and then i watch some other ones um and it seems like you kind of have this like

um

like kind of a static of like a alphabro male that's trying like way too hard it's uh

well crunchy um but then i kind of went to the community and i i mainly disagree with the community i'm not sure if you

agree with their takes but essentially

i think that

we should

alou children

to receive hormone blockters

um and if like doctors agree we should probably allow them to

get on

yeah i h i i just don't agree

yeah i just don't agree with that

ok so what do you not agree with specifically

i don't think someone can make a decision like that for a child

do you think we can make any medical decisions for children

ah that concern their actual like saving their lives and their medical health

but not

in terms of their setuality

don i don't think would be in terms of the i don't believe it wouldn't be well it wouldn't be in terms of their sexuality it would be in terms of their mental health

right but it's in the name of their mental health i get that but for purposes of determining their sexuality i just don't think it's not determining sorry not determining their sexuality but like

medically altering them in a way that pertains to to their sx you know sexuality so

to me i just mean that gender

it's also not determining that either

well gender and sexuality are related

i

i don't think they're interchangeable or synonymous

i mean maybe they're related but i don't know how that can they're not synonymous in the sentence so that's why i was gettingfused

i

b by the way like

hormones like hormone blockers are just regular like

h r t

this isn't like

trying to change your gender um this is if the kid is already expressing

um some type of

usually like genda dysphoria like hate for their body

and they go to like a therapist and then that therapist signs off so they go to an undercnologist andderog saye children are ex their for their body

yeah

like how old are these children

um sometimes they're seven sometimes they're they're usually like teenage range like thirteen fourteen but specific yeah i don't i don't e and much if you're jus asning is i'll give you an example of this

so when i was six years old

six five five to seven right

um

i

was crying

a lot

and i was crying because i wanted to be sixteen years old i'm not making this up b i wanted to be like eighteen and the reason was because

i was watching drake and josh in those shows

and i was like i

i want to be like older i want to live the li i i'm sick of being a kid i don't want to be a kid anymore i'm it sound might sound funny but i'm not even lying about this

and i would cry to my mom and i'd be like i want to be seventeen i'm seventeen

and

i'm not saying that's the that's like an analogy to trans people

do as adults

ah express this

views about that they have gender dysphoria but i'm just saying i as a kid people

kids

express aholl range of emotions

yeah sure not not enough to like

so if these emotions are consisting of like

a

like a large

a

feeling of like hatred towards your body engendered senses not un like oh i'm fat oh i'm like this type of thing it's usually in like

oh

m i am

like i'm a guy i look like a guy i'm going to grow up to have huge muscles i'm going to have like a lot of facial hair and that makes me really sgress i've known pe

i've known like

people who grew up

and they would tell women who would tell me for example that they grew up

always can thinking of themselves like as a boy for example right

and they i mean yeah yeah yeah i've kind of grown up the same way like i'm a tomboy but i've never had a feeling of like oh i really want to be a guyu and i'm like

close the would s because of that they would tell me that they had no identification with their like

that they were women whatsever but when they became when they became adults the situation changed right and they

decided

you know so i'm saying like

when you can express something as a child but then when you're an adult you change your mind right

and to me sure that's why we that's why we give like um children at like really young ages

um

ke

twe like if it's if it's like twelve or like fourteen or these young ages we usually give them like hormone blockers

because those are pretty reversible

i don't know about if

how are they reversible i don't

um they kind of just like haull puberty so imagine if you like

um your body and how i love seeing you like

puberty or sexual development

or those kinds of things are well known enough to be able to come to the conclusion that

you know this is not going to be a life ultimate

they've been reseearched for like

over twenty five they have not been well researched actually this

do you have any facts about this or

all i can say is it's not well resarched

like i don't know what you mean

ho okay i mean so like you're saying it's not well researched yeah i mean do you have

do you havebody that says it's not well research no there's no no no what i'm saying is do you have like a current research and you can like point out how it's not re well research you don't have to like i don't have an honor

but i know that

i know that not enough is known you know about it that's fine so how it's ok if you just know it so what's specifically not well researched about it

okay

the way the human body works specifically how sexuality works how puberty works

and how sexual development works is not well known

um

i mean

in general it's not going any type of like ercrin clinics or anything or

that's not relevant it's not known for example why puberty

happens at the you know does you know

it's not known

it's not known for example

what the factors that go into specific developmental trajectories

for you know a given person and their body and their development

it's not even known for example

and this is what i know too it's not even known like

what height you're going to

your puberty is going to take you to actually it's not yees sure these are all things it's not known

you know if you're going to be able to grow a beard it's not grown like

you can you can look at your parents and roughly guess if people say oh that means it's genetic but they haven't found the genes and actually

haven't pinpoint the actual mechanism

by which it actually happened so

yah ok so you cannot know how it actually happens

but you can know that it does happen so like i don't know im i'm personally not like a mechanic's person i don't really know how a sink works but like

from me using a lot of empirical evidence when i like turned the cold water on the sine cold water comes out so i'm guessing if i push the cold water the cold water comes out onss the sink is broken or whatever

so like

like we can we can study something even if we don't know how it w i have a quote and you can might yeah i have a quote that some random person my ched said

little is known about the long term side effects of hormone of puberty blockers and children with gender dysphoria

although the gender identity development service advises this is a physically reversible treatment of stop

it is not known what psychological effects may be it also not known whether hormone blockers affect the development of the teenage brain or children's bones

side effects may also include hot flushes fatigue and momud

alterations and i'm going to sure so these are so yeah i've never claimed

that

there isn't like any types of side effects to them i never

yes said they're not what i spid this is the national heal of the what i said to what i said

ok so what i said was that the reversible which i'm pretty sure you said in that quote

no it's not what it said it said that the gender identity development service and i'm not sure they're bias actually

advises this is a physically reversible treatment of stop

this what they're saying going off of their word i'm not i don't know how reliable their word is well i don't know how reliable your quotas but if you are relying on it it comes from the national health service of the united kingdom so that's pretty

okay what

but so i said that it was reversible if we don't know any if we don't know i really don't believe it's like reversible i don't believe it's revers

how do you why do you not believe that is it just because you i don't buy and i don't i don't buy that for example at such a crucial moment of a child's development you can just take hormone blockers

and that's not going to have implications for your long term development if you cut them off and reverse them

i know how such sm all things influence such development

i mean there's probably not been as much testing as if the person like

m

it goes off of

hormones or not if they have enough testing then don't push aces

and i ca i

carefa

so what i was saying is i don't think there's been a lot of testing

where they

where someone has gone on p pert blockers and then gone off of puperty blockers for a long period of time i don't think there's been a lot of those things because not a lot of people like detransition out of the amount of transpeople that already exist

well so having that amount of study would be or having that amount of research might be hard because i think a lot of people

um stay on it and the people who do stay on it seems like it's working pretty well for them so i think we should continue providing them medicd yeah is that's how we figured out if anything goes wrong if anything does go wrong maybe we can revoke it um but from what i've seen so far it doesn't seem like there's any type of like

big negative effects from it

yeah but you just said that not like there hasn't been a good amount of studies for that specific circumstance

which means you don't know enough to know whether

that you can you should be able to push this on kids it's like if they want to reverse it you're not pushing it on kids it's a permanent decision you're making for this's not a permanent decision

also like you're not you're not pushing it on kids so usually in these um appointments when you're trying to get

like puberty blockers what happens is that

they usually have like a therapist session refer them to an endercinologist

so they have like um an enterchinologist is like a hormone person i don't know if you ok yeah look i

it look a it's a nice sounding name

but at the end of the day these people don't know

you don't think there do knowledge child's mental health you know no i don't i really don't

absolutely not

you don't think people who study in their fields might know a bit about those fields no i don't i don't think they know anything about them

e

ok well how do you well here's why because just because you're putting a name on it and you're creating a profession and paying people ok know you're not putting a name on your profession you're training for around like yeah you well you're you just interrupted me so you didn't actually hear what i was saying whatsoever so

ok if you're ima changes just because you call it something and then there's a profession centered around the

pretending like you know things and finding patterns and you know

doing all this kinds of doesn't actually mean you know the object you're pretending to know in actual reality

right you're an anddrocroinologist

ah there were people who were um phrenologists back in the ga back in the day right where they were measuring a

re looking at people's skulls and seeing how that the

influences or determines their personality

so just like just because you have a profession and people are all they're working on and that that's what they do for a living

does not mean they know the fucking mysteries of childhood development

in childhood psychology and childhood mental health and

things that people haven't even

been able to master for like thousands of years and were still not even really

close to being able to understand that

uh it you know you think

yes sh like a how would love to be shown like proof that these people really have unlocked the secrets of childhood mental health

so much so sch so much so to the point

where you can make decisions for children

a impacting their adult futures and long term futures

so this is the case for every single medical field no it's not no no no it's absolutely not and other no n no in other and other medical can

other in other medical fields save for psychiatry

usually you're getting medical treatments because you already have life threatening or

life harming whatever

diseases and pathologies which you have no other choice

but to treat in a way that medical professionals

it would be required

that's why for example yes this true for every other medical profession

but we know that those things will help you for example in saving your life or preventing a long term impairment don't know one of your your functions in your body you don't know what one hundred percent certainty but it more or less works now this is the decision you're talking about the nes thing besides like when someen

go ahead ya sure so like

ey

what i'm saying was the logic that you could use earlier where you're saying that like we don't know everything that could happen this is used in every single medical field no i just ting i just explain why we o to be we was in other medical field you it's a is n wor situation don't we don't

be don't experience yeat it's a risk hours your ward it's a basic risk versus reward situation for all the other ones

okay yeah sure and it's the same for transgender people it's se people when you notor it's absolutely not i me the riskreris lot of these people

when they go to therapists they usually talk about like suicidal ideation in terms of gender dysphoria so of these children are talking about

i don't think if children are talking about suicidal ideation

that

any psychological in terms of like

chemicals the should not be be given chemicals in response that in any capacity whether it's a

pills for psychological psych psychiatric pills

for their mental health or i don't believe in any of that for children

whatsoever you don't believe in helbing children

through medication

i

look you worded that in such a weazly fucking way oh you don't believe in helping children with medication yeah of course i do do i believe children's psychological problems should be addressed with chemicals no i don't but do you think we should help children's yes suir i mean i was asking a question so that i could clarify the position so

are you saying that we should

not give children any medication to help them with mental problems

no

f

no you're not saying that

er yeah i don't i know you ares no i don't think you should

okay i mean

so wait really you don't think we should give

children i don't think you should give seven year olds who are too hyper ritoalin and all this other dumb shit i don't think you should give children all these fucking pills and chemicals are going to fuck them up in the long term fuck i don't think you should i mean i mean yes they're going to fuck them up in the mo but they are fucking them up in the long term we're seeing it in real time

you think i would let my kids you think i would let a doctor give my kid fuckin

pills are going to alter how their brain funcking works

fulkono

i was raised by my parents the way my parents are raised by their parents and so on and so on sands maybe thousands of falcon years we didn't have any of these falcon pills and we've been doin fine

i'm not going to raise my fucking kids in that way and as far as i know about americans and the american people are concerned they also have traditions of raising children that stretch back

hundreds and hundreds of years that were gt of these chemical brain altering things w their bucking kids so yeah i don't i'm completely against that hundred thousand fucking percent

okay so you just like

like this is just a hard line you draw it on like

mh

like any type of

medication that would help a child with their mental problems you don't want to ever like know no chemicals whatsoever

um

thatw she's slep

it's just like a morality thing for you that that's nothing else like you would apply that to every other situation

what are you talking about

canthy for a second

can you mute

can i think

h okay

let's say if you had a child

that was

ik

really like they had some type of lake

mental disorder

and this might cause them to like commit suicide

what what oh at what mental disorder are you referring to is this just a hypothetical i don't believe that's how the brain works though i don't think you just have mental disorders that randomly cause you to commit

you know random acts i'm coming from the perspective psy whenos so it's going to have i'm right trying to give a have going to be hard pressed to give to convince me that

highly subjectivezed and highly experiencial things

like so i'm giving you a hypothetical here so that i can try to understand where your morals avreu you are basally a youre wasting time you're wasting my time right now

your ways i mean you can you don't need toin a abstract merit of hypotheticals what i'm saying walk int mk you that is not nw you grain in relation to behavior wre ok there's no medical disorder that randomly has people commit suicide it doesn't exist a reality had a car ok it's not how the brain work so it's it's a hypothetical premised on the false assumption of how

ins worse not okay but

okay let's say listen i know you're trying to copy all of your speech patterns and mannerisms from fuck and destiny

but why don't you actually listen to what i just fuck and told you

you are making a false assumption

that

this thingk the reason why people cold have suicidal ideation all this kind of stuff is directly caused

by chemically identifiable

um disorders in the brain i don't buy that paradigm of fucking mental health yeah i n't psychiatry whatsoever so the hypothetical is premised

by an entire a tirely according to me false view of psychology in the first place

um yeah i i don't i don't buy that either however that's not what i was assuming what i'm trying you so what i'm trying to give you is yeah

situation in which you could could say ever example s may have just you need how could try and say exampleing and you need help you can try and say for example someone can be born with a severe case of autism

according to which they engage in highly destructive and self destructive activity for example

they're hitting themselves a lot and

they're doing all this kind of things that you know like self injurious behavior yeah yeah there's forms of extreme autism which fallen yeahyea i actually studied this

yeah

o in those cases if theres some type of lake

ill you can give them that might alter their likell chemistry

m but it like works one hundred percent of the time would you be ok yeah sure a sedative or something like that sure

otherwise i do turnative is is they're going to die

right okay

i'm

i'e in

which thats i say and you have to understand that when you're talking about injured you don't know if they're going to die like they're just like hitting their head against a wall like i mean what there's a high there's a high risk that they're going to sure they're constantly engaging in self injurious behavior yeah just like its a person's constantly engaging in suicidal thoughts where they yeah but here's the difference there yeah the difference in the case of suicidal ideation

is that that's a highly subjectivized phenomena which is nated that which which ared actually by consciousness it's something mediated by consciousness in a case of severe autism and people engaging in this repetitive

extremely dangerous self destructive behavior

that's not a highly subjective behavior mediated by the interest some labyrinth of consciousness

it's almost a kind of spontaneous pathological activity that they have

for reasons that we can at least know

cannot be addressed

in the form of external environmental

uh intervention like and for example in the way in which you talk to them and

and deal with them like

they as far as you know we don't even know per se but

well now

there's no way we can deal with that whatsoever

in any other way besides giving them some kind of sedative or giving them some kind of pill

which will calm them down and prevent them from engaging in this s

behavior which is destructive to them and others but

that behavior can't be like psychoanalyzed right

that behavior is just something they're doing almost like

uh autonom like an almost kind of like autonomously right without any

you subjective or conscious clear subjective or conscious mediation whatsoever

like for example they're not doing this they're like they're not like um oh yeah i'm i'm hitting myself and i'm hitting people because i'm sad or because my feelings were hurt

or because i'm upset they are just doing it and you don't know why they're doing it right

so

and you can't communicate them with in any way to figure out why they're doing it so in that case yeah there's no issue

but

that doesn't comprise

what i would doesn't not fall under the rubric of what i would call children's psychological

tildren's a psychology because

that's more a case of physio physiology in that case if it's something

that's not

subjective or consciously mediated

then it's physiological at that point right

but in the case of children's psychology and their mental issues and their highly subjective consciousness whatever yeah you don't respond to that with pills that's something i fundamentally believe

okay so i'm trying to um

so it seems like you would respond to it

by pills though if it was like a one hundred percent guaranteedo it has nothing to do with ribbon

even if it was a sixty percent guarantee the f s of one hundred percent

if it was a one hundred percent it's irrelevant one hundred is irrelevant even maybe in some extreme cases fifteen dre just might suffice say because they're engaging in a physiologically based not psychological physiological based

highly self destructive form of behavior to themselves and others

it's not about the percentage of

how much timeses the pill would work

it is about the nature of the phenomena which needs to be addressed in the first place which is not psychological in the sense that i'm referring to

so first of all if you're using a u

if if the reason they're hitting themselves or doing some type of self injurius behavior or having thoughts of suicide if these are h no if these are notal s like masel i they can be fixed you you just weaseled something in that's imperm if they're just you just weaseled an impermissible uh thing in

not if they are having thoughts of suicide if they are spontaneously and almost involuntarily harming themselves or others which is something that happens

in severe cases of autism

and maybe something like down syndrome or things like that

ok but we're not talking about suicidal mediation idek ok we can we can scratch that and come back to it later

se

if someone is having like self injurious behaviour

and

if the

problems are with like the chemicals in their brain or whatever and then you give them a pill to regulate their their brain chemicals

um and it works ninety percent of the time

and ten percent of the time it

it might make their like bones slightly bigger um but it would like

dramatically help with their like um life do you think that we should give them this pow or are you kind of against well let me address the way you just phrase that

in two ways right the first one as you said they're brain chemicals that's not

it the case of these cases that we're talking about are not down to some like a

arbitrary measurement of brain casues we're talking about physiological difference there's a physiological do for example people who have down syndrome have different number of chromosomes so it's not just a matter of a

brain chemeal differs they have a very clear severe physiological difference it's not brain requires them to be addressed in in a different way

soci and on second of all second of all

a

second of all

the percent

is irrelevant if they are engaging in behavior in which they cannot be controlled they cannot control themselves

where they're constantly hitting themselves and others and need to be sedated

the risk and reward factor has obviously tilted to the point because this is something again

not being mediated by consciousness

something that's not highly subjective but strictly physiological

the risk reward factor has shipped just like if you got cancer

or if you' got some kind of disease right

but even if you found a study in which you found

that

eighty percent for example of transgender people will grow up

if they don't do this to engage in self injury's behavioury you can't treat it as the same thing

because it's not an involuntarily and involuntarily spontaneous physiological thing it's something highly subjectivized

and mediated psychologically and mediated consciously so it's in no way comparable

do you think there are subjective things in which you like

to mediate consciously do you think that these things can be operationalized or absolutely this is the number one prejudice of american psychiatry

and my answer is a resounding no it can't

why not i ca seem tok because these things are not reducible to their physiological substrates and if you target their physiological substrates

in order to affect the output

you are probably just harming and butchering a

this person's health their physical in know that

like its

because it's not physiologically reducible

a subject is not physiologically reducable we yeah i

yeah eight

y yeah i know

st so it's like you can't operational ecrol

as someone's subjective

conscious experience with chemicals

well no you're not sorry the word operationaliz is to mean like to

measure something subjective in an objective way so instead of like

u so like something subjective is like walking across the street

um so like what does that mean like we have to operationalize to figure out

uh how do you like walk across the street so

um if you like walk across the street halfway but then kind of like

go off the like crosswalks a bit and then go back on it and then finish is that walking across the street like we have these different types of measurements and we group them in so that we can do like statistical analysis

yeah i don't think you can do so under the paradigm of modern psychiatry and under the paradigm of modern natural science i don't

and the reason it was it unlike a natural science

you are dealing with an object which is not just an object

okay

in natural science you're just dealing with objects

in this case the

a the observer themselves

shares the same subjective

position of enunciation so to speak as the so called object

well

isn't that kinda like

a

lin't this

like a scientist and falsely objectivizes

the other

while not taking into account they are just doing so they're making a subjective intervention upon another subject in the disguise that it's merely objective

don't you think that

your reasoning here um kind of loops back into itself like

you're saying

it it sounds like this is what you're saying i'm i'm not saying you are i i'm trying to get more further clarification um

it sounds like what you're saying is that

in soft sciences

or like social sciences what they're doing is they're taking subjective material

and they're operationalizing it

into objective material to study it and this is bad because it's not objective material so so what's like important about my objective material am i missing something because they're not the same thing

i mean

why does that matter towards whether because it's not actually object

that's why

i mean

yeah but if something highly correlates to like one factor you can would you n try to s you haven't actually isolated the cause

but if you're treating it as objective you very have dangerusn never isolate that you're treating theuse as i object even though it's not even i practically speaking you're intervening in such a way

so as to treat the cause as something objective

and by targeting the physiological substrates

when in fact it's not objective it's a very dangerous thing you're doing

wait ok

even

even if you're measuring things that objectives you cannot say there is an objective cause you can never do that in science

ok

but im so like is thereing an objective intervention

in someone's physiology that is what you're doing

a

can you say that in different words

in so far as the conclusion of such a study is going to allow you to

intervene in people's physiological

constitution with chemicals and pills and all this kind of shit you are fucking do in that

you're doing ight

you are treating it as objectives

oh

entertaining the closure as objective

weh no you're not treating yes you are you fundamentally are treating the cause as object oh so if you would

so like usually in like scientific studies

they always think they ever say like this is the reason this happens this is because one hundred percent but it is usually ractically observationally implied in the method of treatment

but is

what does operationally implied mean

it means in the mession of the way in which the treatment works implies that that is the cause

but

but they don't

yes it does the way the treatment

wy do implies that it's the cause

what what study does this that they imply it's the cause every single why it's relevant to you're talking about no they usually say they have a sort of like correlation and that they should further continue into their studies to figure out if the correlation ok repeat

whatever your name is

zina it's like zena whatere your me

ansure

you're not listening to what i'm saying

if this is doy real is going to lead you to the conclusion that the solution is we're going to prescribe these pills

you are basically saying what the cause is

um

well

this well they're saying the solution is to do this because it seems like it's working and we should keep going yeah direct but you don't know what the cause is in the first place yeah sure you never just seems like s tx you but if it just s it seems like i's working

but you don't know what the cause is actual reality so what actually are you doing

you don't know a you us is why they say you're tampering with something you don't know

it just apparently works

but what are the side effects what are the long term implications what are the long results right you don't know these things because you don't know the cause but you make it seem like you know the cause when you scribe the pills in this way noo wh you know the cause and you fuck and don't you have you ever looked at a medication b i'm pretty sure on them they say like oh by the way we don't know if this will help this yeah i thinkyeh yeah that's what i guess what

yeah but guess what like physical medication as well yeah but like i said in all myer science it's a matter

ok first of all

first of all

w listen

we are talking about the so called social science

not the hard science which is whre i met dos as well

hard sciences do these as well all science does this but it's not the same because in that case you are operating under a paradigm

of how human physiology works

how you understand how the psychological sphere works is entirely different

come in

that it's not am unlike in the caseth unlike in the case of the hard physiological medical sciences

where there are attributable causes and effects

are causes in effect there aren't can you show me a study that is of the hard sciences and like biology or chemistry that that say like this causes this can you like one obviously those exist they don't do that

yeah i do

obviously th this causes this reaction this causes

this result obviously do that

pretty sure that obviusy say this causes this adverse reaction most of the time or for this for most of the time yeah sure they might say like this has a correltve factor no they don't s they say it causes

no they don't the first thing you learn in every single science like

department if correlation doesn't equal causation

yeah but that doesn't mean that these hard sciences don't deal with causation they do

they demonstrably do

but they don't

yes they do just because they reject the view that correlation is causation

doesn't mean they don't seek to discover the actual causes of things yeah yeah sure in their studies

yeah exactly they do seek

causation but that doesn't mean they s you're talking about absolute you're talking about epistemology whether it's absolutely known if this is the cause and obviously they don't claim that but they still are saying it's not sll do it's ca they still do make pretense to the object and cause

and that

so i'm pretty sure you're saying that like the main point

is that

it

we don't know everything it could have this side effect you can have this side effect yeah and what it'll say is that the s reward is they talking about listen sk it's risk and reward

sure the risk a n were the right but the reason it's risking our ward is listen you

the reason is risk in reward

is because you can't deal with it just by thinking as far as we know maybe we'll get to a point where we can master

as some kind of ancient w wisdom or spirituality where we can do that but for now

if you have for example

if you have a bacterial infection inside of you you take a z pack or something

and you don't know all you don't even know what you're doing your body really you really don't know

but

if you want to stop that infection from getting way worse and killing you

you just take the pill and that's what happens

but when it comes to something that psychologically and high mediated

the consciously mediate highly subjective

when you're treating the cause of that in the same way you're doing something very dangerous

you're doing that the same waya with you are and you are you are you are with a drawing you are withdrawing from and abandoning your basic human subjectivity

and objectivi ezes you at your most fundamental level

any type of non over the counter medication is going to be more risky that's why they don't put it over the counter and you have to go through like ok zeno it has nothing to do with whether it's risky when i say you're doing a very dangerous thing i'm saying you're doing

you are engaging in a fundamental act

of

denying your own subjectivity more or less dangerous

how was a dangerous

because you're doing because you're doing things to yourself

you're doing things to yourself which are not only known in terms of their effect and so on and so on

but

there is no clear

a relationship between

this so called psychological result of the subjective result

and which you dos yourseship there's there's usually pretty high caus

yeah's that's why they conclued that like

we should try to continue doing this thing it's because it has a correlation yeah but you know what's happening in that case you don't actually know what's happening it apparently works

right what

i don't actually know what's happening i guess but like

i mean you don't know what's happening in every single scenario we could say that yeah yeah but here's the difference since it's something consciously and subjective you mediated

right

you're not dealing with it on the terms of its actual existence and expression in the form of

subjectively and psychologically and so on you're not dealing with the phenomena in the cradle of its actual essence you're dealing with it like it's an objective

natural scientific

a phenomena that's reducible to that

rather than for example addressing it at the surface level

so in this case the correct thing would to do for example would be to focus on the symptom and not look for a physical cause just focus on the symptom

i

yeaes so it seems that's what for example psychoanalysis do i mean psycho analysis focuses on the symptom

it doesn't look for the actual physical coings

are done

go ahead

okay

i i didn't

you just didn't let me before um yeah so

i think we were talking about

like what's the

what's the difference between

ah the subjective conconent like

the subjective um or not measuring s subjectivity

you

record the subjectivity and the you measure

reor the recording of the subjectivity and then measure the recording of the recording of the measurement because it's an infinite recursion you know that right

a

well

this is the basic kind of german idealist

contient paradox

what you're talking about is an infinite version

you can't draw a real line between objective and subjectives when the object is subjective you can draw ok ok please don't go down this like

but isist on going down this road you have come to a place in which this is a place of enlightenment not the place of angal box

this is a place where we do talk about continagle all these nears to take seriously all issues and all matters

well i'm not getting this rack in your dumb ass animal box a is not university this is not a medical f f f if we're talking about i think ctual you want you know i can just meet you right i mean you can mute i mean you can mute me if you really don't want to hear what i'm trying to if i want you know f f f f f do that shit again i'll met you

okay

so if we're talking about it nots of sound like destiny

a

okay

i know you say ok just like he does too

ok

so if we're talking about subjectivity

okay

so we're talking about subjectivity versus objectivity

i'm trying to

show the difference between these

and then you bring up an argument

in whathich you say

ah oh

well

you see the

um it

you it's an infinite recursion of what is subjective what is objective it seems like we kind of like breake the whole system and we were arguing

uh under

a like a premise already like

oh

like how we were understanding these concepts but kind seemed like you broke the concepts and we have to go back and fix them so that's why i was not wanting to go down that path because it seems like what happens is like

uh we were already working with like a pretty well understood like difference between what is subjective what is objective and then you kind of just like broke that

it's okay if you want to go down that roade to but let's go down it i don't know what the fuck you're talking about let's go down it

okay sure so um i'm guessing i would say subjective is usually something that you can't like um

like physically measure that you usually

ok well what would you say subject you can't really physically measure dark matter or most things in quantum mechanics modern physics

are not physically measured they're just based on mathematics so i would not agree with that definition of subjective

i mean can't you like

ok so what's your definition of subjective theent

yet subjective concerns the very position of the enunciation

of the subject the embodied subject in the conscious being

who is

intervening in the natural world the natural so called object of natural science

a in such a way so as to measure it so as to quantify it and so on and on and the reason we draw this

cartesian distinction after modernity

is because we draw a fine line between us our consciousness

i who i am my identity

my cell food and all this kind of stuff

we draw a distinction between this the observer the subject the conscious being

and the world outside of us

which is apparently outside of our consciousness and outside of our subjectivity

and which is therefore treated according to modern science as a kind of dead

a dead thing something that's not a person not a subject

not something with thoughts not something which

reflexes reflects upon itself and has

the quality of self reflexivity

o so for example a stone

does not reflect upon what is a stone

who is a stone

and what is the stone do it's just the stone right that's all it is

so an object is a strict cause of the subject

ok i'm going to try to summarize this

'cause um

said a lot of words

he's trying to know you're not educated that's the issue

uh okay yeah so i'm trying to get you to educate me so that's why i'm restating the sentence in my own words so i can understand it so we can continue with the conversation

can i do that

go ahead

okay true

so um

i'm guessing you're saying that like subjective is something that you can't observe with your consciousness no objective no

okay

so

can you

say it in a way you would think i would understand

yes i'll sae it one more time

it has nothing to do with

it's not about whether you can observe it or not

it's about whether you can externalize it and objectify it in the first place and embody it as a thing

that is outside of youviw

or outside of the sphere of

discursive intercommunicative rationality if you want to go on o ust whatever you want to call it

it is something you can externalize into a thing

it's something what do you mean by externalize

something outside of the realm of consciousness language subjectivity

and so on and so on

and agents ol so on and so

so it's outside the realm of

what

a consciousness subjectivity

wait

oh okay

it's outside the thate

m like you can't

think about it

that's subjective

if it is something that is not for itself it's only for you

does it make sense better

it's only in itself like a rock it's not for you it's not for itself

you are the subject for whom

it appears or it appears to be relevant or significant

or whatever like you know the word subject in grammar right it's pretty much the same thing we're talking about

a rock

would be the object you would be the subject because their rock imposes its significance its relevance for your sphere of experience

for you

in itself you don't have any business with that rock

but you are the thing you are what the rock is for as far as your world

of meaning is concerned

the rock exists for you

it when it what it is in and of itself is not relevant to you

and that's not relevant to me because i can't know if the rock exists

it's not relevant to you because insofar as you make it relevant you become the subject

of the manner by which you interact with it or think about it or

um deal

with the rock

yeh

in so far as you make this roant in irack an object of your

and concern you are the subject

of the rock

a

so

what do you mean by consern

if you think about it interact with it or make it

concern yourself with it in any capacity

so if i think about that rock

that means the rock is subjective

you are the subject

the manner by which worth you are you are engaging in a subjective

process you are thinking about iraq

iraq doesn't think about itself

because it' is an object

iraq doesn't think about you as far as you're concerned at least because there's no language

that mediates any relationship between you and the rok ander san it just correct ok

so um

ok so how can we translate these concepts to what we were talking about earlier

well you're the one who wanted to clarify the difference between subjective and objective not yet that's because it seems like ok we let's let's translate it the

if you are taking a given psychological phenomena

a given psychological subjectively linguistically

consciously mediated phenomena

in reality

and treating it like an object

isolating it as an object

for example

at that moment

oh

are you just against like western forms of medicine

i

no no i'm advocating right now

ultimately my position is not relevant but for let's say devil's advocate

i'm just advocating for a normal modernist position

on the question of modern science

you are beyond the shadow realm of a

the you are beyond the threshold of what i would consider sanity with the way you're describing it

i consider

a the modern science is progression into trying to treat

the subjective phenomena

as a objective natural scientific phenomenon

to be a form of civilizational madness

right

but

in so far as we're going before this neoliberal period whatever

yeah the basic modern position is that there's a difference between a subject and object subjects are rationally discursively

and mediated beings

through language and through thoughts and so on and so on

and the objective natural world is something outside of us

the minute you start to treat

human being as an object

outside of us

in this kind of way you engage in a type of barbarism that's the modern western

position

of which we have departed from significant

i don't really care if it's the modern western position

but

lage

ok

so

what is

what does this have to do with the

mk

what does this have to do with the overall point it seems like what we were talking about before was you had a problem you are trying to address a psychological mental

whatever is subjective phenomena

in an objective way

um

how else would you treat it

of course subjectively

how do you measure something subjectively you don't you don't measure it that's the thing you don't measure

and how can you measure an individual experience

you can'

yeah if you objectively measure it that's fine but

like okay

so you actual subjective how do make any studies off of subjective experiences then

and that's why i think modern psychology is all bullshit

rowed in the garden ok

i got to throw it in the dumpster all of it burned it all like

they burned like the mongols sat the library of baghdad

like julius caesar accidentally destroyed the library of alexandra and burnurn destroy all of it hed for fifty one

of course

yeah okay

and so you're saying that

the

like you just can't

give a

an objective reason for it

subjective experience

no

and what's the reason at least if we're in the realm of modern science no

yes s well

i mean

you can do if we operate from the basic artesian distinction which is the founding

of modern natural science and the medical field and everything

no you can't

what do you mean no you

i mean i can't get you measure love measure love for me

um you can

okay sure you can go ahead and give people a survey

and then you can say hey have you felt and loved before and then they can mark yes or no and you mark those numbers down as one and two and then you can start pushing putting this you whatus in your outputs are basically what are they going to output on the survey

so for example the way you would interact with that operationally would be

you know

you would produce a different all this time they said no they didn't love their mother right you're actually addressing the core of their experience though in any kind of way

you know how you address you the more of their experience

you'd say let's talk about your mother that's what freud said he said sit down let's talk about your mother

let's walk through your experience as a child let's actually explore that

let's not treat it as a static objectified

output

because we're lazy and we don't actually care about people's inner experience we just care about the extent to which they comprise peno phenomenal impressions on or horizon of experience you're basically saying oh get this phenomena you're just treating the phenomena as output

not actually addressing its actual essence or its actual real costs

well measuring the output is how we figure out no it's not

because lisit this is why and thereicings are fucked o in the head you are if you are you are intervening i don't mean if you all o o do't measure anything

you are all you people of the medical establishment

you are manipulating everyone's output because you're sick of people complaining and whining and you're doing it to such a point that you give em all these pills and they become zombies all the output's fine

but inside deep inside in their subjective experience they are screaming

and then when they go and commit suicide you go ha well we gave m all the pills and we di all this ha i wonder why they went and committed suicide because you didn't even fuck and interact with them in a human way you treated them as a fucking object and you just gave a bunch of fucking pills to solve their fucking problems because you were sick of the phenomenal output without concerning yourself in any critical capacity whatsoever for the real cause

so

i'm not a psychiatrist by the way yeah but thly your medical establishment and your consensus has led to the so called crisis of mental health we are now experiencing in america

i mean i' blame you

ok

ah

just a second oka

so

yeah so the

i think what you have a problem is

is people measuring

ings

in an objective way

but i' measuring srajective things

y in an objective way yeah yea

yeah that's what i meant sorr

so

how do you measure

things in a subjective way and if you can't switch i you don't measure it measurement implies quantification

sure so how do you maan interaction how do you know you man how do you know what the treatment for i'll explain to you how you know if the

how do you know if the treatment for a subjective problem is helping that you cannot treat a subjective problem from the perspective of medical natural science you can't

i would say go seek religion go seek psychanalysis

go seek spirituality

that's how i'd respond to it

and let me tell you why

the di here's where the line begins and ends w when you are talking about the way how am to subjectively help some one you're implying two things

you're dealing with two things

let's say there's someone who's falking miserable with life

and i want to treat them right

there's two things that are being implied here one

i am assuming a state of subjective happiness

a baseline norm and i'm saying

you know what this person's miserable but they could be happy cause i know happiness i've experienced happiness

why don't i try to interact with them in a way so they could see what i'm able to see right

that's how that's one so you are assuming a premise that happiness is possible

as a human being that's an extremely subjective spiritual whatever you want to call a assumption because what if the from a philosophical perspective

what if the miserable person is right and they're actually true what if they're correct

what if there is no meaning to the world that if we are

honest with ourselves about what our place in the universe and in the cosmos is we should be fucking miserable there are philosophers who have written

that the only honest thing humanity can do is collectively

commit suicide right this is a this is up for contention that must be dealt with spiritual and philosophically it's not a given you can't just assume that

people should be happy or people should be okay so that's one of the ways it's subjectively lordered the second thing

you're going to be assuming

is that you can communicate

with them

in such a way that as a human being as a subject you are basically the same as that that you like them are human

and that even though you don't know them

you are you are

living in the same world as them living in the same universe as them and sharing the same subjective discursive rational whatever you want space as them

not you're not some scientist in other words who's above them

who's going to solve their problems and cure them magically you are no different than them you're just another fucking guy right you're going to communicate them get on their level and they're going to come to an understanding

that you are just like them and vice versa and so on

so you want to work with them in a way that is mutually

imperiling both your subjectivities you're not going to be a scientist

sitting in his ivory tower who's just assuming that his subjectivity is safeguarded and unaltered and he's just going to treat this person like an experiment you as the person intervening in this person's life

you're going to put your skin in the game you're going to put your own heart on the line too

right and that's what it means to help a friend in need when you have a friend in need who's suicidal and depressed you don't go up to them like you're an impartial scientist who doesn't you know who's outside you say look dude i get it i understand i'm miserable too you know like and then you give them words of encouragement you do things like that you be a human being who's able to get on their human level

those are the two things you have to be assuming

when you're talking about subjectively treating someone

things like quant to vacation things like measurement that kind of shit doesn't fucking figure into it

wait okay

so

how do we figure out if like these types of like

subjective ways of treatment

of treating subjective measurements

how do we figure out yout know whatork fuck did you just say

subjective ways of treating subjective measurements what you a if the have like if you have like a therao measurements there are no measurements so you more objective whatever that means s there's no mesure thats can i speak

so if you have a um

if you have a

a person who's going through a really tough time

and

you know you're trying to be there for a friend

um

like and then it's like oh

you know maybe this helps them would it not help this person how do we know

m

you don't know maybe we should that's gency of a subjectivity yeah we don't know so so is there because i think there's a way that we can know it if we combine these experiences so let's say like this person had this experience this person had this experience thiss abtly not we're all kind of human there is no seutual subjective interaction in that case whatsoever

you don't think we can ever make you are trying to you are trying to foreclose a mutually subjective experience

and substituted with taking the sum total of subjective experiences

and producing an objective result and you can't do that

m

i mean you can

no you can't

by definition you can

be sure wit can you repeat it

hello

so

can i repeat it no i'm not going to fuck and repeat it i'm sick of you ask me to repeat it

that i've been trying so hard

so fucking hard for you to understand something so fucking simple

you're treating it as objective

but it is actually not objective

wait

you're not ok you're not trealy treated like it's objective not but in reality it's not you agree

w where is the objectivity then

in that they're not treating the subjectivity

was like an objective

statement if you are going through like

a therapeutic approach you would be measuring it in objective standards which isn't um

that isn't you interacting with a human at that point like you would be you would be doing this as a listen the perspective of modern science

modern science not the monster that is outgrown that lives now

modern science is in the cartesian modern science

so called psychological health begins and ends when you say as a human being i am no different than you

i don't know something objectively that you don't know

but i have found a way to understand the wisdoms and the trials and tribulations

of reality let's say i'm your father i'm your grandfather

that's going to help you

or i'm someone in your life whatever

but for ultimately i don't have knowledge in the sense of modern science

which is going to solve your problem we're all here we're all here

i don't know something you don't function n right we're all here sharing the same we are all here no you don't not in the sense of object it has signed it noonsense i me right

we are all here experiencing reality in real time

i don't know something in terms of someone's spiritual psychological conscious predicament

that they don't know in the sense of the knowledge relevant to modern science

i'm here just like you're here i'm dealing with the fundamental torsion the fundamental cut at the heart of being that gives rise to self reflexivity and subjectivity the fundamental melodrama of human being of human ontology

i am also at the mercy of that just like you are

we have in the sense the same problem

ok i don't have a solution to the problem

ah you don't have because i have the same problem

and

the only thing we can do is i have learned to come to peace with this problem in a specific way

right

but i don't i don't

i haven't found a way to to abstract myself

from this problem that is subject object division

ok

i have a question for you

nah

a

would you say you're a confident person

okay

would you

yeah

yeah yeah i would too um so like

if you are trying to explain like let's say someone like a close friend comes to you

and they say hey

well i'm not feeling very confident

i need a solution

would you say well this is a subjective experience in't i could never know what you're facing and i could

no no

this is this is something very literal isly tra like any typ of other situations or anything orre you you know i want to ask question and question n the knowledge you know

yeah you're so smart by the way you're so smart

open question

are you and maybe i'm not i'm not doing this make fun of you i mean i don't make assumptions are do you have like a physiological

impairment that doesn't allow you to like

ya

communicate to people

understand what people say and you have like a language disability problem

anything like that i should be aware of before i i

talk about this cause i'm pretty sure i remember

saying pretty clearly

that language is what mediates

the

common

mutually subjective experience

between subjects so no you don't say oh i could never know

you get on their fonk and oves alwas going on why don't you have confidence

how do i give my own fucking chack that's the worst example you going to give

you go by example and if there is still a barrier a fundamental barrier

that you can't like the reason why you have objective natural science is cacuse there's a barrier i can talk to a rock all i fuckin want

there's some kind of barrier that can't be bridged right

now if you're a humanist

whatever barrier is going on between you and another human being

you're going to try the hardest you can if you're a friend

to cross that barrier

if you fail

you bring your friends to someone else and you keep trying

and you bring him to a holy person you bring him to a shafh you bring him to a priest

you bring him to somebody

and someone to smarter than you had a lot about them and ultimately the truth is you have the same problem that they do

and this most of the time most of the time how it works is if there's if you have a depressed friend most of the time

is that the person can't help their friend

because if they were honest with themselves the no better they would also be depressed too its justerre too stupid to realize it

right

if you come from a perspective for example of psychanalysis or psychology something like this

then it's going to be different because you have acquired an interest in these things

because you are yourself trying to cope and deal with this pathology or it can even be religion right so if you are very spiritual person is i understood where you were that's why i adopted religion that's how jesus saved my fucking life

and prevented me from fucking

i'm not me personally but i've talked to so many falking people who come round place jesus saved my fuking life it wasn't for jesus

i would have fucking killed myself so many people have told me that

right

so yeah everybody has the same problem basically not the same form

of this problem

but nobody's above somebody else where they're going to act like there's some kind of a lab coate scientist who know who has some kind of you don't objective anybody else but some people are more like experienced just like you said and what this scientists you are talking about are spiritual pigmies they're not experienc anything if i went and fuck their wife they would cry and break down entirely

don't tell me these scientists are experienced people they are experienced in nothing nothing that concerns the fundamental wisdom of human experience now they're experienced in going to school and be at eggheads and writing shit on their clipboard and whatever the fuck they're doing but they are not experienced in the sense of fundamental human experience don't give me that bullshit my fuck and grandma more experienced than scientists

okay so

do you think your grandma is more experienced on something that maybe she hasn't read a lot about versus like a person who's read a lot about a subject talked to a lot of people on the subject has like done a lot of ws ok listen destiny clone destiny clone number five thousand four hundred and forty four

yes you don't whatich you seem to not fucking understand

right and your destiny voice is so fucking annoying by the way

what we are talking about you have talking about reading something you're again that something is something fundamentally subjective

so don't get it twisted and try to weasel your way into making this a kock music oh do you think that maybe a nuclear scientist knows more about your grandmaer than how on how to operate a nuclear reactor yeah obviously we're not talking about the same fuck and things here are we

sre i'm talking about how to best help trans people

um let's say like trans people are really struggling

with like their identity they're saying hey listen i believe if you're an adult if you're an adult

you do whatever the fuck you want do whatever you want do whatever you see fit

i'm not going to bother you

but i'm against you pushing this on children

um i wouldn't

want to push it on children i'm against you putting hormones on children manipulating what children sexuality given them hormone bob blockers and i pbery blockers that are going to permanently alternate for lif you know they're going to be a guy what was a little boy he was destined to grow up with a really big beard really strong muscles superll really big manly man you give these blockers then he regrets it

and then for the rest of his life he's going to be more feminine right and he just took something away and then you'll never get back i don't know like

no you took aways for something from him he will never get back

that's what he wanted right

he was too stupid to know what he wanted to was a fucking seven year old child here was a seven year old child wh stupid you know he wanted that's how you go to that's why you go to a therapist and this was not therapist funking no even doctors don't know shit i went to the fucking doctor once about a fucking something stuck up my fucking noses alws nothing inor nose nothing you knowose i blew it out there was something in my fuck

knows even dot use actuly these people know everything about the wroad and they don't

this this is a personal example and that's not like there's plenty of examples of plenty of exap plenty of no even hore doctors don't know it all evenn be physical doctors know what all be got a therapist has unlocked the secrets of the human mind

even funking doctors don't even know how our body works but we still do it anyway because we have to but when it comes to our mental subjective space we understand modern science rests upon the assumption that my body is different from my head my consciousness my soul i'm my body break so i go to the doctor fix my body

when you're targeting the inner experience of consciousness and subjectivity

with pills and shit you are violating someone's humanity at its most visceral level when they're a fucking child

ok and gender identity is one of those things that

a inner exp inner visceral experience

you are altering with something of a child they don't know anything that's a child a child doesn't know anything

and you're going to fuck and make a decision a life altering decision that's going to impact them for the rest of their life hell no

i don't haven't seen any

information that shows you robot your robot

ah well i mean what

you're hoping pretending to listen you trained yourself to talk like destiny and talk like a robot be is how you cope

with the

this is how you cope with life

to be a robot this impartial robotics type of person i see right past you zena i see right past your robotic facade

i see right past the robotic facade

you're an emotional person you got to break down and cry and chine license you're not you're not you're not some robotic uh destiny type of person

you sorry you're not hang

you do that because it makes you feel powerful it makes you feel elevated makes i you'l above the world you're not above lord you below the world

a

okay wait

are you sang i'm helo

by you saying i'm below the world doesn't that make you feel like you're above the world and that's what you're trying to do with you except it's true except it's true ok

ah okay

so how much destiny have you asked

and i watched him back in twenty eighteen but i don't know how that has to do with any of those was you learned all his ways of talking

ok well it sounds like you've watched a lot of hassan like i don't watch a lot i don't watch that much hasan

what about john zirko i should because that's the guy i'm most familiar with john zirko but even them

i don't copy him

well i wt you to a lot of peop have said my comdans you know people said sometimes my comdience resembles him and one hundred percent destiny and every way you speak

every way you speak

i'm ae hundred percent what

john zirka

really am i

yeah one hundred is one hundred percent

yap yeah i'm not that's a cope

that's a ppe

you you even try to laugh like destiny what is wrong with youre like a skin crawler

you're like you're walking around in destiny's skin you're like be it's like you want to be destiny himself

me not really i share creepy you're literally creepy

you know he's his own person right you're a over

excited fan you're an overly enthusiastic fan

and you might even be like st ill destiny worried for these people because you see to be like that stephen king movie

were you going to capture him was that movie where the the fan captures the author was that movie guys was that movie

everybody knows that movie the she captures the author t's hope let's hope you're never in the room with me misery

misery that's what's going to bed that's matter watch out because i think i fear for him by consulting me and stuff what of all the people i tping y y argument

ah i'd love to but

because you are a robotic broken record you keep

saying things i've already addressed

you're not moving past

what's already been addressed and addressing it in a new way you're saying the same thing you did before

you've literally said that like

the lake

you can't treat

any type of subjective science this is a pretty lake

a crazy claim in a crazy world don't worry

ok

so i'm trying to there's no subjective sides

all soft science is bolsted it's not science

i think

that all this is what i believe all it you i believe all non stem education

a all non stem hard pore science education

should not only be bankrupted destroyed abosa so on but in a legal way a legal way ceremoniously by the government gon will do it

ceremoniously bulldozed and burned down liketerrupt to me personally

huh

that sounds really corrupt to me and all the people who are peddling this false pay they should all be thrown in jail that's what i believe too

did i love just taking away people's freedom speech i agree i think that's because our freedom of speech has led to the abuse of children so i want to protect children

okay do you have any evidence um

showing that lak

there is some type of like abuse towards children w w not this is so silly this is what luk on calls the discourse of the university

why do you demand objectible andge wen you know very well that i qualify giving children hormonal blockers a form of abuse why do you need evidence there is nothing empirically usp youk that's abuse why there is nothing empirically in dispute right now

nothing is empirically speaking in dispute

you look at one thing like for example you see was you samp for example it's not empirically in dispute

that wash

is saying pedal shit

but you just deny it's pedal shit right so you don't have to say one of the evidence you have to say why are you calling it pedal shit you don't need to thiscpium of a you got evidence got evidence you got evidence i didn't know what you you got evidence so i didn't know what you meant by child abuse but now you have evidence you don't know what i meant by child abuse

yeah i asked it

you have evidence you asked it

uh

i mean aren't you streamos

you have evidence

that you just asked me the question are you stcreaming

a

but

it's getting rate iblove to talk to you again you have if you have any evidence that

so it's getting late

and do you have any evidence that you consider a good talk to me if you i

if you're just gon to keep doing this

you have any evidence of what i'm going to keep doing no let's shift to wash and and let's let's shift and you i just a f what yyeah i got to defend wasohus pedophilia sot's talk about that type of stuff you

i don't know if you're goninga

i keep doing this type of well i mean

it do you have any evidence like

well let's talk about your defense of washes pro pedal takes

pro pedotakes yeah

you've defended them the before right

i uh i think i said i'm pretty sure that a lot of the clips that people were posting were taken out of context and i don't think they were taken out of context from the discord

yeah people were posting clips ok yeah situate their context properly

sure so i am pretty sure there is a clip

um i'd have to look back on it

um

i'm pretty sure there is a clip

that said

oh vosh was saying like

i think it's totally okay

four

um

for people to

i

have like

the are people to you like

use child pornography

for a time some type of a

for some type of value to be gained in society he said this type of

cla

but it

the thing was it like cut off right there and the rest of the claim was if we are going to

alod

different types of

i forgt my gun

things you produce

uh yeah

things you produce if we're going to allow different types of things you produce and like buy

um if we're going to allow these types of things to be made by children in like uh child labor places so he was trying to like compare it to that it was a really like

bad comparison h it sounds really bad but like ho hold on hold on was fos knows that

there is no way we already are having like i'm not on we are already consuming computers and all that kind of stuff

so the only meaning that vosh could be saying is oh we should just

allow we may as well allow if we're going to continue sous anti o so he was anti

he was trying to give an argument against

i think he was talking about like a vegan discussion

and he was saying like

yeat he was talking to like a vegan and he was saying like the hypocrisy

of

a

a situation in which

someonere is it

we i'm not going to say yeah but that's a you know that's a pro pedalorn right he's defending

ptll porn in context now ultimately he there's ano not alimately ultimately he may claim that he's the rape of children i don't know ultimately he may believe that in the big rock candy mountain there shouldn't be any but insofar as we live in this

fall in de praved world we may as well have it right

um

and he what's interesting is that what about the other clip where he just straight up said there's nothing morally wrong with it

uh i'd have to see the clip i want to watch right now i'm not super well read on y you want to watch it now

yeah can you like cherry screen

yeah we're going to go on and do it right now peter wiley

well

seven

my original claim that i made

but i don't think he said anything like pedophilic

someone in the discord link it to me

ling it to me

so jd and the discord i'm going to show you what actually here a few of the last chidren and i'm going to show you a few of these actually this is actually a lot

so we're going to just see

somem not all there's way more than this right

but yeah

i'e in

i don't know what the pint of this is so i just want to see if this was all taken out of context

ok sure i mean like

i don't know what

i'm not like a huge vosch viewer person

so i'm not going to know every single clip or whatever

yeah we're going to see

we're going to see right we're going to see if this holds up

so let's look at v

and uh

i'm going to meet my mike and i'm going to give you a chance to watch

c p is free

if you're ca you positive its a possive

no it is a thelay

not paying for child pornography then there was no our way and would be in thelan youre su can you shut up

so we can h you're you're interrupting it not streaming it

yes i am there's a fucking delay

but no there isn't if you share your screen there's no delay

i'm not going to see how my stream on y stream goingit

i

i thought you were going to share it on the on like notice just watch it on twitch

so the audience can see to w

it wouldn't be easier to

just

e have liked your youtube

j tab and then go to your shirirscreen

think on thiskcord and then share it so that we can watch it in real time

no just do this

ok let me let me open up your soon a second

there's going to be the way

ok i have to open the btm

it going to give me another anty piece

yup

if you're not paying for child pornography then there is no argument in favor of morally condemning people who get it

i would not say that it is any perchon to purchase child pornography it's just morally neutral it's not ethical it's not unethical coould consuming child be legal i think that that would be yes more legal and more ethically consistentyes

we didn't like put offs right there in the clib

going to play it again

didn't cut off right theing do you know the context for why he said that

a

o'll shit

um i mean i don't know the exact context but i do know it's cut off like

you couldn't

i'e in

all right let me let me ask you what let me ask you i don't even ho i can put this on which le mean let me read you something from vos discurt if you need the evidence i can send it to you

we i us can you tell me the context of this where this would be permissible

well wait if the sek spot is just a toy then why does it matter if an adult

buck's a kid robot

um

so

i mean he's probably being edgy i mean

is that it

es now he's talking about lolly sex bots is that just edgi

i mean

i mean technically like

if you are

but he's not wrong like if you have a

it's not harming children that's why they take is funny

i think

wait there's nothing wrong with that

i mean if you're if it's not going to lead you to harming actual children if you're just like looking at like you know you don't threak of that the fundamental pathology

of pedophilia

is something inherently fucked up

and you want to you think you think it it's ok if there's actually a pedophile

acting upon their

fantasies as long as no children are involved

as long as no children get hrt yet

i'm anti children getting grap

so as long as you're actually cultivating

you're promoting the culture

of children eventually getting hurt

well yeah yeah if we if we're promoting something that would lead to children getting rapped i wouldn't i

o y then i what do you think the fantasy comes from

you people you've salken people and by you people i mean you left this

you boycott

all media dave chapelle video games for the slightest smallest shit

right it's not politically correct but you're ok with robots that are

made in the image of children for people to have sex with

yes it leads to you're ok with

we are lolly porn

if it leads to less children getting raped and yet

are you ok i think it just speaks a result no i really just think this speaks for itself

are you not for things that

give

children i am one hundred percent against

pedophilia in all its manifestations

i mean find you every peed of file it belongs in prison

oh i'm i'm had the minimual a p the minimual

i mean i donth they harm children or not

that kind of fuck

anyone who has heedophilic feelings

who has a

engaged in any type of pornography whether it's involving real people or not

anything of that matter should belong in prison

so

i

i in

all culture which promotes the abuse of children

should lead

two criminal charges

that's my view

i mean yes i it leads to the abuse of children yeah

all cllture

no which gives expression and fantasizes about the abuse of children

should be

criminalized

um

i think if you're fantasizing about fuck beliusually arem fok is noting the wors thing on fuckun believable i care about outcomes when it com on like fk believable

oh okay so on i fk unbelievable

dave schapo dave schapo can't telled oks on netflix but this is allowed right

okay

what do you think about chapelle

when i think about ship should he should was netflix responsible in giving him a platform

were they responsible in giving him a potform

that's like objective het

that's okay

were you're asking are they were they responsible i mean yeah they were no it were they was it a good thing you agree with their decision

the plat to host just thing yeah

m yeah sure i don't i don't think like

these types of things should be prevented from being on netflix

okay

what about

uh what about um

white supremacist on twitch or on on

you too

what about them

um i think as a as long as they're not um like contributing

just some type of

like

advocation for harm

i'm not really one for like silencing people what if they just ok what if they just want to fantasize about it like what if there's a game on steam

where white supremacists want us fantasize about committing arts of iron for

no were they for example the game hatred and

games where people fantasize about committing heinous acts of violence against minorities

would you would you be ok with steam adam had on their platform

i mean yeah it's fine

you' ok with that

yeah it's called collge duty ho

it's with the game that youref that's not our long talking unching people so you're ok with a steam game like ku klux flant role playing game

i mean

yaes sure

you ok with it

you would not protest have an issue

i mean i might be like that's a little weird

but

what about if it was against sexual minorities

just likeeon w the funk

are you playing music in your background no

i just got some epic bapel music from somewhere i don't know where i came from

what if it was against like sexual like transgender people and stuff you would not have a problem with it

if they're like if it's a game

um so i mean i would have a problem with it

so i ok

during what how youre w i just gave you an example of a cklan roles playing game and when you're attacking racial minorities and black people yout no issue with that

but the're going and i bring this up you're going to have neance and you're going to have second thoughts these issues

during these issues

i'm assuming that ate

there's no type of like outside consequences for these things so like if you ask me no there's no such thing as a vacuum everything is related sure so not in a vacuum yeah i'd probably not be ok steam i'm not talking about a hypothetical world come on nowre you are you listening to something

no i'm not i'm talking about now

ansteam

now

like right now right

not a hypothetical vacuum on steam

are you ok with

uh nazi and ku klux klan and this kind of violent stuff

notow just right how it is how it is now

am i

if they made a game out of it

yet

um

yeah it'd probably not really for that

okay

so when vouch talks about how he can't wait for there to be or how sorry

he anticipates

that if you really wants to

f children wait twenty years for v r lolly porn and don't tell anybody you use it

you said you kind of agreed with him about the robots and the varport

you chse your mind change or what

could you say you're agreed with him

well

um

i'm trying to figure out ho the best way to phrase this is

i

agree with him in the sense that like

if that

is

something that would

prevent you

from

going out and like harming

wait but that's not on hold on hold on

one however we're not talking well we're not talking about that we're talking about year and now

i'm notalking about

future sell like robots because it's st

this your original arguments that noting we a sut up shut up

your original argument was not about

the consequences leading to less harm you said since children are not being harmed in the consumption of this media minorities including transpeople are not being harmed in the consumption

of this violent video game yp talking about and you manage to say you manage to claim that you're against it right but when it comes to pedophile content you're for it it's ok so in the background of these issues so like if we're if we have a game

a

so the problem with like these like

situation since they're not in a vacuum you have to like

figure out what would be the

things that would happen from these types of situations and in some situations i don't know i don't know what happens when pedophiles watch lollypoinn

m

that's not what you said before you walking back your position nwe your position before was that since children are not go s no you were talking about you a vacuum but they're no said no we're not no one mentioned aboatum now i don't grant you that assumption ok no one but grant no i was taught in what a vacuum i don't mean you we cak wen you say like hey if you

had a train

and you could switch the train track so that you'd kill one person instead of five people do it and then i would in a vacuum i would think oh yeah i would do that however if we actually think about like the situation every day hey going anding bcken know you know know zina zena i'm trying to weasel your way out so let me walk it back to

i read out a quote by wash well wait if this sex box is just a toy

then why does it matter if an adult focks a kid robot

we did not talk about a vacuum we didn't talk about the real world consequences we talked about none of those things all you said was that yeah i agree with him

because an actual child is not involved

and we went through the course of argumentation on that basis

then i gave you examples

of violence video games where minorities including trans people are not involved obviously it just the video game

and there's you're committing acts of violence against them

and you managed to muster the ability to say that you would be against this

well why initially did you say you had no issue with what var said

so

that because i am assuming in this interaction

that there's like if

the pedophiles like watching wollyporn

um then they're not going to be

uh going out and like raping kids because they can do something that wouldn't harm kids but if they just want to harm kids

um and this is like leading them towards that then yeah that's kind of fucking i wouldn't want to wait wait hold on

why didn't you say that oh i'm i'm just assuming that the

you know you didn't say that you said because kids are not involved there's no issue

said you agreed with ce andd it's because si you re senate don't abouck arming kids i said specifically it's because it's not harming kids

you said that way after

when i cornered you and it's because it's not harming kids i'm pretty sure know that's not what you said

you said because it's not harming kids in conserinment

so so that's what i meant but then when i said for example this is what let me explain and what i suly happen since your memory is so short

what i actually said in response was you're promoting andk up and i really care what i said and what i said what i said what i meant no i don't w f you're trying to fuk and cover up what happened i'm the one who said

oh so you want to foster a culture that's going to lead people to commit kitchen

oh no in that case no i just agree with the opposite i agree that it's not going to so when i only when i brought up

the fact that it's a culture that promotes pedopelia which is self evident fact

you decided to adopt the opposite position but

for example in the case of games where you're committing violence against minorities nw all a sudden it's common sense that we should all agree that oh if you're doing it in a video game you're promoting a culture that fosters violence against minorities then why isn't it that when you have sex robots you're not promoting a culture that promotes violence against children why is it ok to have pedophile content as long as children aren't involved

but had not content

that is promoting violence against minorities why do you have is this why is it that one ll not the other

ok

it's because

i don't think that the idea tn towards lif

wanting to kill minorities is the same as like wanting to have sex why not exin

because i think the ideology

of yeah like nazism and white supremacy sure i think these things are more of

i think these things

are more

because they want to see minorities dead

and not because they get like satisfaction that's not n

it's so like

and they don't i don't think they get satisfaction from it

i think there's a visceral racial hatred underpinning that ideology form which they din't get satisfaction so that i have to just merely add the rate of it so ok so in both situations

um

f you if you're going to say something that i really anticipate i'm going to cut you off

by the way

yea

that's fine and if you if i don't uh

i don't finish i'm going to cut you off so

ok

when we so there's two different variables there is onanting to

you actually do it just because you like

you want to do the thing

and then geting pleasure

from seeking

the thame

so a lot yeah i already anticipate your fucking argument shut the fuck up you're saying pathological sexual satisfaction is not inherently iological it's a physiological pathological sexual satisfaction so yeah first of all that's making two assumptions one the assumption

that violent racial hatred and violent hatred against minorities

is not fundamentally pathological in a psychological sense every psychoanalyst would disagree with you on that point the second assumption that you're making itt second assumption you're making which is fundamentally fuck and wrong is that all i would have to do according to your own malogic if we live in this la la land according to which there is no psychological pathology of satisfaction and enjoyment which is not merely idiological in a racial hatred against minor

dies

is add a variable of ok what if it's just the simulator where you can rape women i'man in cell missogynist simulator

where people us in cells have fantasy of being able to rape

women commit violence against women and o and i can make all of these

all of these examples clear last one is qualitatively different so you're not going to gt it under one rele the last one is qualitatively different is the last pt i'm going to make the last one was to mak s and idiology behind it it's just amnuse

oka i'm going to make all of these

all these situations clear ok

two

m i think

it's ok

a

for you

too

if it's like

let's say you have a desire to do something

and then whenever you doce if you could do that thing but nobody gets hurt

that desire would not go away

um and like for for the period of time and you would be like um

that problem would be resolved including violence against trans people ind viduo

yeah sure if you have like some type i'm not saying by the way for the audience i'm not saying in a video game like

h i get like i'm saying like a steam gamey p c mediall yeaham game um

well so

i'm not sure if like these things should be like

held to the public if there for these types of things because i think that can have some like

negative implications

but i should i think that

won't know

but she was pad for that his original point

ok i thought so sme i just said it on means that

it's not going to lead to any harm to children at all

in the long term

yet if why are you not way just you intuitively a w ha intuitively intuitively you wondtan ok but on initve everad if this doesn't ever lead if it doesn't ever lead yeah but intuitively speaking you know that's not true for a video game

where you're engaging in violence against trans people intuitively you seem to understand

no no so s intoitively you seem to be able to understand that is that bese of course he's going to have had a world implications because

the reason is because in this situation

i

i'm assuming that the person who wants to

ke

kill the trans people in the video game actually wants to kill trans people in real life and is like going to do it why not

well yeah however

in both situations

um if

the person who's like killing the trans person in the video game if that's going to help them not kill trans people in real life i would want them to i would rather them have a video game where they can kill trans people ok sure

so why do you make the intuitive assumption

that the pedophile is not going to lead to an outcome of

more children being harmed

but in the case of a trans game it is going to lead to more trans people being harmed

because i think the

the difference between these is like

pedophiles usually e

there they just have like an attraction to something so there's mediology involved right

yeah i don't think i don't think there's like a belief so what if you ok up then the since we're not going to agree on that point let me give you something that you probably should be able to agree on

why is it that there is etiology involved in a rape simulator then

what if a guy is just horny and wants to andfit has a kink

where he fantasizes about committing sexual assault

against women

yeah and then he goes into like a rape simulator or whatever yeah

unsteam internet

and

and this is like closed off to the public no just like the pedal shit it's a wa ok i wouldn't want it to be public in every single situation

yeah i dot i think in the pedal robot can be public

no

wolsha said well wait if this sex spot is just a toy

then why does it matter if an adult focks a kid robot

when did he say it's gonna be public on steam

it's a how else know this robot be obtained

you could go to like a therapist to like um

wen you think os is implying this is a therapist

it's form of therapy

the therapist meaning it might be

well that's an assumption i don't employ

but le's also'mume it's going to be like a public thing onm but i want going to be a listen listen listen i want to explain to the actual context

even though it would be just as disgusting and highness wh we go down that route

i want to just clarify so you can't gas like the audience about what actually happened

balsh was implying in his discord thing

that it is completely morally neutral nothing morally wrong it's just a bot

doesn't matter if an adult fuxy kid robot

because it's just a toy

and you said you agreed on that there was no implication about therapy there was no implication that this is going to be closed off from the public yet he said it he said n ing period if there's a sex spot an adult is fucking it

and it's a child

it looks like a child or whatever

there's nothing wrong with it because it's just a bot it's just a robot it's just a toy

right

yeah this is so

yet in that situation also he never made an assumption that it is going to be public so you can't like assume that hes go there iss unless you want ok the burden of proof would have been on him to clarify

that it shouldn't be public because

if he didn't want to why would he assume it's not going to be a public why aren't you assuming it is going to be public because what you're playingre and he said there's nothing wrong with it and the reasoning he gave wasn't because it's therapeutic

or be maybe it's reducing i disagree with the reasoning gain is that it's just i'm poy heard the reasoning vos gave is that it's just poy

you may be researching medical stuff logic is not your strong suit

he said it's just a boy he didn't say it's because his motherwies what he would have qualified why there's nothing wrong with it

are toys inherently therapeutic unless is that what you mean that we should assume toys are inherently therapeutic i think the contrary is

i think the contrary is true

toys when most pole talk about toys they're talking about something that you just get publicly you don't get it from a doctor to

be for play for pleasure

ok so in that case i disagree with vosh's

that part of oh oh o so that we have to go through all of men

we have to go ok all becaus so you never because you fi said it was public because you know fail we i've at seen way out that part of i saying you everything about now after being recornered you're saying oh now i can't and no way out of this one ok i can see

listen from a common sense perspective you know what you fucking said you know what you fucking meant i just caught you with your tail between your fucking legs and then you walk to you are far wow back not only are you a creep not only are you a pedophile apologist you are fucking coward

walking out yes that's me

yeah you are a falcon car w't you have a see

once you have a seat

right over there have a seat

ok

have a sea right over there wn't you have to see

this is bostous community by the way ladies and gentlemen

this is the people that are making these retics about me this is that you call for k out of the open this is who they are

n can you listen

to whatevern you listen after you walked it back like a falcking coward

you know what you original i said and know whatver you meant you know what you said that you agree with boss you know exactly what was fuking implied no where were anone talking what therapy no where could you justi by selling thiss i know you to was that oh i thought it was im why it was going to be therapy i thought it was implyed it was going to be for therapy i thought it was implied that it was going to be in a vacuum i thought it was imp no you fuking didn't there's no indication

and you one fucking planet earth and they were under the fuck and night sky and you were under tengrees blue sky that bucking there was that fucking implication you agreed with vos likekn period and you walked it back after i broke down while you're a fucking hypocrite after giving you the get example of a steam game

simple as that

so

ah

so what i was saying from the very beginning

was that i think

it's

why are you shaking

you go it all right

som what im was saying

in the

f

i didn't assume it was going to be like a public thing because bshs statement never said i want this to be like a public application let' say o so you thought it was going to be on mars because he didn't

specify it was going to be on earth

i didn't think it was because it was going to be on mars

we didn't specify it wasn't going to be on mar so we should just roll with the assumption that's what you thought right but the we just believe you right if i said we i thought was you met it was going to be on mars this is

if you say this thing is ok i'm going and then i say yeah this thing is ok in this scenario do you think i just gosig you to qualify under what conditions not just agree with it when it's not being qualified

well if it

oh okay

if you want to sre a liar you n to granted boss original take lgs no children involved it's ok then you kept adding qualifierss a kept quaring you and showing and exposing the nature of ashs community

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yeah

yeah keep dancing keep having fun

keep having a fuck and fun i having yeah keep having a ok and fun you not having p having a fuck and fun right

by the way you have solidarity with those workers at netflix

wait

am i out side right there with you have solidarity with them

do i have solidarity with the if they want to protest again

but they're all going to get fired

do that right

that sucks

too bad they're all going to get fired

what does this have to do with anything

how how much longer do you think the american people are going to take

their intelligenceia being comprised a bunch of fuck and palt pedophiles

how long before we start passing laws putting people in prison for advocating for the things you and vost

and i would hope never because we know it's going to happen it's going to happen

do you not believe in the freedom of speech

now when it comes to pedttles should know

i don't believe in free speech in that case no

no i don't

he really is the red fascism

it's the

anyone who's not a pedophile they call a fascist nowadays

oh okay so i don't i don't care your insult bounces off me

like bullets bounce off super bouncingfter me

yeah

you've called me a pedophile this entire pedophile supporter pedophile apologist

pedophile adjacent and vosses of fuck and creep

who's in all

we have everything but the proof that he's won himself

everything's bt there

all arrows indicate in one direction all arrows point in one direction

all arrows point everything but absolute qualify have everything but absolute proof is this is this what you do you just like scream at people and then like

i

i don't know did

uh di h no no

how long is that dost you an acy going to help you cope

can i help you cope

for how long you going to keep coping pretending to be destiny

what's the one name where it has the the one guy with like the

um the crying thing behind a mask and it says you're coping you're coping

walk out of my forcking

c

biggest fucking copiam i've ever seen in my fucking life

biggause fucking vosch and they cope with life

thinking they sound so normal and so fucking cool

and whatever

meanwhile in real life

in real life

this person's a psychotic a freak

there's skin walking in destiny's vallking skin

they sounded insane to everyone

they sound literally insane to everyone

they're walking around acting like their destiny every one looks at them like they're fucking crazy

but they think they're the normal one and they're the reasonable one

that's how fucking insan it is

their pretending to be reasonable well adjusted

and one by one they're copying all of destny's mannerisms and speaking patterns

on far unbelievable

i was going to just ban them when it came to the pedal ship

but i want to fuking on

i want to i want to draw it out more so you guys can see the evil and filth

coming from that fucking community coming from the community minds you

which has this as their top post on fuck and reading

the vos v g g pedal advocate community

the community of pedophile advocacy

the community of pedalphile advocacy

i am one hundred thousand per cent astalinist

wen onundred billion thousand percent the stalinists

and they call us fashies

because in stald soviet union

pedophiles were not allowed to roam free you couldn't walk around advocating for pedophiles

you couldn't even talk about that

and we're fastists for that reason

they call everyone who's not a pedophile red fascist or fascist

we want a generation of children

paper when donated ten dollars

os that was the spookiest content youve ever put on

we all need some syriaitu we all that sh we all do

we are going to fight for a generation

where children will grow up this is our dream this is our aspiration we will fight for this world

we're going to fight for a world where each and every child will grow up

with the future bright in front of them

never ever having to live in a world where children are abused where they're sexualized and where they're under attack by these disgusting sick adults we're going to fight for a world where a child can grow healthy happily into an adult

that's the world we're fighting for

and they're going to call us fastest for that reason soll be it

the can caull us whathever they want

they're doing the best p r for people who call themselves fascist go and tell the american masses that a fascist means anyone who's not a fuck and pedal advocate you're going to turn the whole country fascist then

you're doing the best p r work for those people

and it's so simple isn't it simple why can they not

stay away from the children just stay from the children stay away from the children

why must they meddle and intervene

in the lives of children

i remember when i was a kid

i lived in a different world

i didn't even live in this world when i was a kid

you burn a dout

the think about children like vols does

it's unthinkable

remember

what you were remember when you were a kid remember you were a kid once too

imagine you are a kid and you know about the evil that was out there

mamagine as a kid if you knew about the vouchions of the world it would shatter your brain

it would shatter your brain i was at recess

play and edta and eddie with my my little friends an elementary school i never was thinking about this vowsts disgusting shit

and that a vuch had his way

children like me would have to know about thehm

and that's what it means to be a leftist

if that's the left i am the sooper far right

if that's the left

but i refuse to believe that's st left

because the left of the french revolution

if you would have said that back then in the french revolution and you had these french people ad you would have been guillotined

you think robespere would have tolerated that

you think robespere would have stood for that

that's what the aristocrats in france were doing that's what the right wing in france was doing those aristocrats in france were doing that shit you think the sans coulotes those working people of france frenchre go rose fiers friends the're going to tolerate that shit the left in france would have never tught that's what the left comes from

so a real leftist would be against that

wowch is the super far right

super far right

by the way

by the way

let me tell you someone else

during the russian revolution

you think the pedals were on the left and the pedal advocates were on the left

eddor restri was the pastime

of the russian aristocracy

the right wing

but they don't teach you that history now do you

the russian people rose up

the peasants too

the peasant russian people rose up

and they said enough but enough of this elite decadence and evil of pedophilia and pederistry and they got rid of it

what did max and angel say about the buszoizi oh you don't know those papers do you have those letters to each other wheen they were talking about among the ranks of the bouszoisie

in the parliament in the german parliament in secret

they're abusing children

they wrote about it to each other in letters

it's always been the pastime of the ruling class the aristocrats and the bourgeoisie

and meanwhile the good people the good people of each and every country the toiling masses who are raising families

we're disgusted at this

they couldn't believe this sickness and evil

they raised their kids their small children

and nowhere in their instinct nowhere in their hearts as a whole

could they consider this tolerable acceptable

or even thinkable

we've uncovered something dark and evil today

i feel like this is true detective

i feel like a' true detective i'm just some random guy

i feel like woody harrelson from true detective here i'm sitting i was playing min graft all day and i just uncovered this sickness

this evil from vauch's community

look how i expose the demons

look ho i expose the demons each and every person on twitter who's coming at me coming against me this is whore they are

by the way

all those people in my quote tweets all those people talk and shit about me this is who they are

this is who they are

let me tell you something chat i know a lot of you are atheists i'm kind of an atheist too

doesn't it feel good

doesn't this holy feeling feel good

and finally you can understand what all those religions were about when they said when they talked about god when they talked about banishing demons when they talked about goodness and holiness

doesn't it feel right to be on the right side

whether you're an atheist or religious don't tell me you don't have the feeling

don't tell me

it feels good

and pure

to be on the right side

to adopt a position which you know is your ancestors would be smiling down upon you for adopting

your forefathers will be smiling down upon you for adopting your father your grandfather his father

and for so long

this was considered an insane position

and now we're bringing it to the light of day

we're bringing it to the light of day

i'm like woody harrolson

from true detective

i didn't know what i was walking i'm not some priest

i don't know what i was walking into

but miraculously somehow we find ourselves on the side of god

as an atheist i know we're on the side of god

these are evil disgusting demonic people

and these demonac forces they're in they're at netflix

whath do you think was behind toes

same type of people

same sickness and evil in their head

and now they're walking out in protest of dave chappelle and we're supposed to have worker solidarity with them

we're supposed to have the workers solidarity with them

that's the working class

it's the working class

yet there was no netflix walk opportunities

that is what i brought up to this pre said

so you're ok with a child sex robot

but you're against

transphobia netflix and

suppose i legitd transfobia

and a transphobic steam game

make it make sense

make it make sense

make it make sense

can someone make it make sense to me

can someone make it make sense that we have become the most

sensitive politically correct society where we say we have to sensit this or it's going to lead to real work

but you're not going to censor pedophilia

that's ok

make it make sense to me

mak it make sense

it don't add up

it just don't add up

yet a bunch of these people were former alt writers

yeah and i know the have a sauce relation these are dark people these are dark people from dark corners of the internet that's all i can say

i'm a human being so when i see a fellow human being i always assume

that they're on my same wavelength

but that's such a bad assumption to make these are really dark nasty people

air damban doonated seventy five dollars

good shit us

ambience

with the seventy five

thank you so much ma'm

appreciate you so much

thank you so much

thank you so much ma'am appreciate your done

appreciate you so much ma'am

i had no idea today was going to be crazy

i was just playing mine craft today

you know i was i thought today was going to be a lazy day we was going to do some lazy shit

i don't know we're going to uncover this shit you know

this is what dave chappee was warning you about

that's probably what he was worn

warning you about zirka talking mad shit

what

i thought he went on the trains podcast

i no he didn't

how of shit is he talking

no i can't

puding

six fifty a week grant exposing es and food what a waste of money fuk you talking about

during the scull pot i can't do it i wasn't invited to that shit

i would i would join i would skip the gym for that ship but i was not invited

were need debating nussiness with next week

next week

criystopher holy fox with the tin

thank you so much ma'm

thank you so much

george donated thirty dollars

thank you a

great debate

put this to the car

thank you so much george appreciate you have done

thank you got man christopal thank you so much for the ten george

the ten i mean with the thirty sorry

thank you so much for the thirty men appreciate you a lot

we shake you a ton

we liveing in dark times guys it's like i got a debate imagine i got a debate about that shit man

how wasn it even a debate i had a debate about

protecting children

infrared vision raoul said there's going to be a delay he said there's going to be a delay

unfortunately

verakan with the five thank you so much maam appreciate you

appreciate you man i see you man thank you so much verakan thank you so much verikhan

i don't know if i'm allowed to talk about farikhan himself

on here but

you know what i mean

is what it is

what what is understood don't got to be

said you know

ah

logo tweeted the bain video

yeah

yeah that's what this is something that was really weird someone

you know i don't know what what this is about she was ok with the nazi games the races games

she said ok ok ok but then when i talked about

true games targeting sexual minorities

all of a sudden it changed maybe

maybe dave shapelle was trying to actually talk about

how

white

a leftist

are prioritizing sexual politics over

the struggle of black people

maybe that's what dave chapelle's fucking point was

in so many words maybe that's what dave chappeal's point was is that he wasn't attacking

the sexual minorities he was just saying

why are they

why are they confusing are trying to speak like their authorities on black issues

he mentioned he loves malcolm x i love malcolm x

i love malcolm eggs

i don't want to play imperian dude i'll just stick with my cract

i love malcolm x man i love malcolm x

i woll malcolm x are you kidding

malcolm it's one of my number one influences

and life inspirations with malcolm x

i'm opposite to you politically

so want to say thank you and i appreciate you for standing up against these pedophiles in os community

appreciate you man appreciate you man thank you so much rock sob with the ten

thank you so much ma'am appreciate that

thank you so much for the tent

appreciate you a tonemen

i don't even know i'm bewildered i mean

we

there is some hassan stuff and like some

i think we've got a light in the mood

quick though before we do anything but

there's the hassan's grime stuff i think we're in a

focus on that

tomorrow maybe

well i think i'm going to do an iral tomorrow i don't know

whatr

i was planning on watching a spooky video

today

right

maybe that'd be a good way to calm things down watch the spooky video

the next borvii you

bas

thank you nott suki appreciate you

we could talk more about the i might do a substack about this whole

netflix worker thing

would you come on the so scow packet

yeah yeah yeah that's just not going to happen and i don't know train you know

but

you know maybe one day

in the future

you could stream decorating the messoll

i the reason i'm scared to i kind of want to make an alt can i stream on an alt be cause

i don't want my average of use to go down

vodborn donated fifty dollars

i've red headlines that the director slash writer of squid games has been rejected over twenty times

looking at the finale

the neuv the rich aristocrats in their obsession with human subjugation and torture

maybe it's a bit too what has been going on in reality

oh i believe it i believe there's truth behind squid game hundred percent

hundred thousand percent

m

yeah

and the fact that was rejected so many times like

look all the talent on netflix

is

look

all the

all the falcking

allan on netflix

is coming from outside of america

yeah but the reason i don't play minecraft because i don't want my average viewers to plummet

right but otherwise i'll be playing mine cchraft and i'll do

i love

by the way

als so there

where

by the way

m

speak in a miccraft

nyes

the server is lit

i'm spending a lot of time on my craft

i'm not going to lie

i'm spending a lot of time in that game and i'm having so much fun making vendors

plug adding mods

we're making it like an r p g you know

um

who cares what average jewers

well i just like to see like every month how the bar rises up

i don't want to i don't want to kill moral because

october for example we didn't rise that

that high in october right

it only rose like

you know

i don't want to go down and people are going to panic you know

i'll be fine but

you know i'll be fine but

i think others wouldre panic

fairly sociable are they good

m

there's a book

bok is this

the resource was great

is it yourors

liion blended

we're going to watch the next book for now

well the next one' is really long it's like an hour

it's more true events and mysteries

today's video is brought to you by honey now as someone has grown to realize that all i do is honey with when that went down we thought that was going to have a bigger no us at all nice

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i don't want that whole story

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this one sounds in

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through its

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access television program or some

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a tape on the internet because the fact that not a single detail of this film's origin can be confirmed and he plans to talk to

i don't know dude i don't know and while i'd normally remember watching the full thing

i just wish everyone was on twitch you know

if everyone is on twitch i cot to talk to anyone

you know

it's like i have to make plans to not stream and go on youtube instead and

the disturbing kids show one

i scoped i wasn'tinvited to scop

so there's no way it's

what

h never

yeah there's no way that's s

not tonight at least

so yeah this is a very weird video

there's nobody

this was not in

is dugen bend on which uh t is

to be safe i'm going to do that on you to

but i want to talk to dugan

on hundred percent i'mt to talk to do then

ok let's do the next

low three

what did putin say in

well die what

utin well b what he say

putin says western military backing of ukraine

threatens russia

i always see putin as my leader i'm not going to lie as an american even as an american i don't know

maybe not as american as a communist i guess

i don't know putin is just he just seems like my leader you know

putin in g those are my leaders

when i say leader i don't mean it like

there it's like a master but it's like

i see them as like the leading lights of the with the leading forces of our world

aded like lee i don't know i can explain

like on new year's i watched

their address i watched

see and

first i wat s then i wast putin's address

on new years i watched their address

because i feel like i don't know

s is me

what are the walton files check the walton files on

ya

initially

is the walton files us

is it youus

the next boo video the walton files anyone watch it

is there any tus in it

have you seen that russia is accused of stealing blueprint for the spotnik vaccine

i've never heard of that

is this still worse

the wen to go stories

let's check that one up

that onet se us

no dos oky i'll trust hoalks

we're going to watch it

did you see putin's comments about capitals andm failing what

put in capitalism

your twittop isn't real and doesn't provide any value to society

well as a job no it doesn't

as a class and as a job this is not a working class profession

but

as antreamer like me originally myself individually

forget about my y

why

yeah i do provide a lot of value

like not marxist value but yeah i do provide something new

and something clearly valuable

and unique

can someone link me where putin talks about capism

wow putin there are no the existing model of capitalism has been exhausted on real he said that

let's check it out

there are no

wood in baste

wooden bas

t

three made recipes

look at what we are seeing

the energy markets

and we think we'll discuss that

laton

look at what's happening that's the capitalism that's

not working

they're regulating the markets

one thousand five hundred or two thousand dollars per a thousand cubic meters of natural gas

that's the regulations that's

and that's where the regulations

a when everythings stable

in almost all economies of the world

all participants of economic life

demand more freedom

and less participation

less involvement of the state

earlier you said otherwise that people working at netflix aren't working class were i never fuck and said that

i said the opposite

i said

as a class true treammers are social parasites absolutely

i'm not going to go on strike and larps a worker

o're getting a bunch of subs a month

because i know i'm not the working class

in my job the way i get paid

i'm not a worker fallk no i'm not

i never said i was working class with dumb fluck

and the economy

but once

difficulties a mess sultan's a trend cender do

i was here but ok ok you know what

look

why didn't clip it

go ahead and clip it

and if you can clip it i'll send you five hundred dollars want to do that for me blood

if you can find the clip where i said i was the working class i'll give you five hundred dollars

five hundred

double difficulties

every one rushes

to demand the state to interfere

i remember very well in nineteen ninety eight in the year two thousand

when the global financial crisis started

and if you don't find the clip

you admit to everyone you're a dumb stupid

wah

and you call your mom and you apologize to her that you disappointed her

and you do it live on stream

at the time

i was prime minister of russia at the time

i used to talk with many of our successful

interpret interpreters

they came to us and were ready

to pay pennies

to sell companies and enterprises that

that cost millions

why did they do that because they needed to be responsible for the people

who worked there for the enterprises themselves

what they wanted is to preserve their wealth they had

and too

give up responsibility

at the time

yeah i'm with the ca pr f two but internationally like putin's still the symbol of russia right for now

so until the k p r f take power this is

you know

this is who represents russia

we decided to help them

but do not

remove the responsibility from them

okay

wrning

graphical depictions and discussion about

wait alicia is not yours

go join scoff

ut skoff is not open to everyone it's not zirkus's podcast

if it was just jerca i could probably joain

i can't join scuff

it's up the train hawks are you sure this is ok

it should't show anything to us but i can skim in real quick and make it sure

graphical depictions are allowed on its right

fictional go iicee

are drawings of gore allowed on twitch

a

drawings

good gore

unstreamed

no response

okay

yeah i don't know

let's see let me look this up

let's consult the twitch shoa

see if it's halal or farom

because apparently

you know you can't

you can't

show anything on twits

says as long as you progress through a game normally and not just focus on all ok

customers support article the list their prohibited games

prohibited games with an adult's only rating

okay i get it

so you can't focus on it

in a game

drawing of course such an animation or enemy is allowed

in the same category as games as games are allowed to newen gore

are you sure whered you hear

where did you hear that

where did you hear that

where'd you get that from

i'm not going to play imperian

where'd you heart that from

this is so fucking like

on

i think howkes is skimming it

right

don't scop

erka wants you want scub

oh

can i join stcuff

if i'm going to be on scoff then i'll go to the gym now and come back

if i'm going to be on scuff but i don't think

i'm going to be invited to that

he said he what do you mean

dud it's strains proadcast the i can't just join dude it's not czircus podcast

did he save this himself

what are you talking about

what do you say let me see

you mean that

florida

oh they're already on scuff

they're already on

already on scof to the foot

the train wrecks yeah they're already on the scope tude

then you made a good decision

absolutely

yet minus about forort years over there but

well maybe you will the cop

h i can't join dude

the fact

i don't i'm not in like their discord or anything

what a to say

zurkas said messaged him to get on

see what your

i'll just message them

i messaged them oka see a story one

hello there

my name is bradle

i'm somewhat of an adrenaline junk

what i do to get this fix of adrenaline is i will go out in search of nothing in particular

and just hope something happens

sometimes i get more than i want to

this is one of those stories with the exception that i wasn't seeking adrenaline

this time

be warned that some events in this story may be disturbing for the faint of heart

this is your warning

continue at your own risk

the walton files's cleanup t o s ok it's just animals

right wek then

as fars this

oh yeah i missed analong horror old school rough around the edges and by every account disturbing

what if i told you there was a series out there that's recently stood out to me as one of the creepiest that i've ever covered on this channel off the lights what if about oflight

turn off the lights

turn off the lights

i told you that it's nearly neck and neck in quality with the revered local fifty eight that we know all too well

and what havef i told you that

to night we're going to be pressing through that very series while dissecting its secrets and piecing together its grim lore well as you can tell by the tidal and length of this video

that's because we are enter the walden files a show birthed on april twenty sixth of twenty twenty by an online creator named martin walls anddud zulu i'm not going to foking play imperian shut of fok up

and also

i spent like two hours

it' killing you in mind bress

i made like a consord and it was a one hit kill so i was testing it on you

i was and you would die

i remember you do

inspired by the hit ind the classic five nights and friday's combined with a clear love for analog core storytelling

walss crafted an insanely engrossing narrative surrounding four anima tronics that were assembled for a burger restaurant named bond's burgers

the place opened in nineteen seventy four and was known to host birthday parties school events and even animatronic concerts for the public was known to host these things

because to do a few

specific incidents bondsburgers is no longer open for business

you see the walton files a structued through just three videos at the time of writing that each contained numerous tapes jumping back and forth between the date bondsburger's first opened in nineteen seventy four and eight years later in nineteen eighty two

a mysterious person named anthony seems to reside in each video's description and claims that these tapes were all made by an extinct company named bunny smiles now bunny smiles is somewhat of the foundation here the azber entertainment of this entire ordeal and the root of nearly every event that takes place deception curiosity loss

trauma

and regret have all found their home as cornerstones of this series and ultimately leave us echk ircle responded

just said up

questioning what exactly is happening with the bondsburgers restaurant but i'm not a leech you understand i'm not a leech i't a leech

that at me

and who started this chain of events that ended up going so terribly wrong

as you can tell by the link of this video this series is gargantuan with the disturbingly convoluted story that reflects that its something that's fascinated me for quite some time so i'm incredibly eager to press through this side by side with all of you

oh my god so without further ado

let's dig in from the top the walton files

well

there's a post about your tweet on

louder with crowder with ninety of votes

what

louder with louder

read it

we see

let me see

leftists are attempting to ratio this man on twitter showing some love

yah we get the right wingers the hope was

they don't know i'm a communist but that's akay

they don't know yet

no

yeah

wow

no

that's what going to lari youus

oh i gues

netflix p ar song i did a whole song and dance man

yh i gotta get those viewers

gott to get those viewers

how is it that they still they're coordinating to ratial us you know that right

wan get

who the fuck hasn't liked the fuck in tweet yet

well like the fuck and tweed now you know they're in discords coordinating right

they are literally in discords coordinating to raceious

how the funk are you guys letting them issue me like this

the fore

wey're all coordinating likeight

the p m c fucking in ther fucking discord

are coordinating in lockstead

there we go we got a bum

you got a bomp

they're all coordinating to ratio me

that's what they all did

they all coordinating to ratio me

eur

zirca answer

not really not

fur

they made another post on red skare pod whos red skare pad

they down whatoard me do

those people don't like me fock red scarre

fuck red scary the in't fuck about those people

this is a compilation of tapes created by the already extinct

bunny smiles company

i tried to get as much info as i could about what these tapes are but all i could find was that they were handed to new employees back in nineteen seventy four to nineteen seventy nine

and the rest of them seem to be recorded by a new facility caretaker

in the year one nine hundred eighty two

hopefully i can find more soon

anthony

yeah their chapel

company introductory tape

archive one

nineteen seventy four

serving as the pilot episode for the walton files

the first archive within this company introductory tape understandably takes a more direct initial approach at introducing you to the main cast

and yeah that's all it is just an ordinary employee traing hi and welcome to the introductory tape to your new job at bunny

on

let me uh do something moh

i'm going to reply to a tweet

though i just pquaded something

one said and look i think this is an important tweet

because give me a second

let me show you what

because on

as i said

it goes so what does the working class define it for me

is that the word for this is sofatry using a poorly defined concept as an excuse to deny the basic barefaced reality

by any sociological cultural intuitive

common sense

that these people are not the working class in the historical and collquical sense

let me add to that too

on historically

it suffices to define the working class

as those who must sell their labor

rather than own

capital

capital

this was because of

of calltroure of

don't you logical

a

historical

ultural except that are realities

' ar story not material the realities

in their relations

the relations

of production

that no longer holds true for today

this can be easily explained

i'm going to briefly explain it right let's just do this to you

going to do this

ya

during the period of proletarianization

people were up

rooted

from

there

they're traditional means of production

and

and all forms of

labor we

subjected to the common measurement and

denominator of abstracts

wage labor thus

those who did not

already possessed

a form of capital

and had only

theyir labor to sell

could be identified as working

the working class

for the proletariat

because

because they had freshly emerged

from pre capitalist

recapitalist

three modern

or pre social

instantiations of labor or production

sociologically and culturally they were an entirely different class

then

they were

far more specific as a class

then

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thanks for the good work you have been doing

as in the case than you so much for the five as in the case today

all those

oh

do

as in the case today

all those who fall under the

a

vague and extremely

general standard of not owning

capital

or the company's

at which they were

today with

when the unprecedented socialization of labor has already taken hold to such an extent

that's all

professions sorry all

forms of employment

are

post

post capitalist

and subject

subjected through capitals south

beller

arise

in process

o

after the age of imperialism

in the rise of an institutionalized

sty

your

bureaucracy

corporatization

set that up

so how do you spell bureaucracy

bureaucracy

bureaucracy

spill a grip

labor has once

as once again

labor in the abstract

increasing forms of specialization

professionalization

and

other

institutional

instantiations

of human ability has torn asunder the

universal commensurability

of all forms of labor

employing them

of all forms of employment

it's not specific enough

is simply not

on

your company

to be

working class

the working clss

has taken on a national aps by this

these are qualitatively different

different forms of employment that are based

and defined

everly institution alllies

and thus there

fundamental

quality

oh

socialization

fundamental quality of socialization

ah fuur

and therefore

in the

able to

be defined by a common

abstract labor

as

in a sense

regress

is inn a sense regressed

progress

into a form

strictly defined

defined specially institutionally

privately

sorry not probably institutionally

the word i'm looking for

distinctly

in a way

that

it's separate

from the rest of society

the working class

this is actually one of the

reasons

mark

and

angles talk about the necessity of measuring

labor value

ah from

only from the least

quantum of

on skilled labor

untill labor

because

the other forms of labor

are merely arithmetic

additions multiplications

it said that i

of the original

on

now to speak of a working class

obviously entails

obviously entails

the least

those human beings

enter

t to the process

the process of socialization

you are being employed

based on their work

in the sense of the least

quantum

oh

unskilled labor relative to their society

our society

there is more

or less a standard level of

aiation

skill

said togm

specifically

at the national

institutional level

check the aund

but noneth less

they represent the

the bare minimum

of the manner by which human beings enter into

the roalm

of exchange

within our economy

this is the working class

oh

that's the working class

not focking netflix

employees

it's very

's very simple

the working class

the working class

is only defined by the abstraction of work

in general

because

ah

the nature of its work is general

this is literally it

this is so simple dude

this is so sad i just literally fuck and solve the issue of defining it

so it's like this

i'm going to run it through like this again education time

right

uh yeah and a normal person would be like they write shows they don't shovele color shit right we

these are mark soids you have to explain to them theoretically right

this is

dopitry using a poorly defined concept as an excuse to deny the basic barefaced reality by any sociological

cultural intuitive common sense

these people are not the working class in the historical and current colloquical sense

historically it sufficed to define the working class as those who must sell their labor

rather than own capital

this was because of sociological historical materialalities in the relations of production

and no longer hold true for today this can easily be explained

during the period of proletarianization people were uprooted from their traditional means of production

in all forms of laborre subjected to the common measurement and denominator of abstract wage labor

thus those do not possess a form of capital

and had only their labour to sell

could easily be identified as the working class for the proletariat because they had freshly emerged from pre capitalist

pre moderate and pre social instantiations of labor or production

sociologically and culturally

they were far more specific as a class thn as in the case to day

all those who fall under the vague and extremely generoal standard

of not owning capital or the companies that they work

today

when the unprecedented socialization of labor has already taken hold

to such an extent that all forms of employment are post capitalist and subjected through capital self valorizing process

after the aids of imperialism and the rise of an institutionalized state bureaucracy corporization

increasing forms of specialization professionalization other institutional instanceiations of human ability

has torn asunder the universal commensuratedly of all forms of employment

it's not specific enough to simply not own your company to be working class

these are qualitatively different forms of employment

that are heavily institutionalized and thus their fundamental quality of socialization

and therefore being able to be defined by a common abstract labor

has in a sense regressed into a form defined specially institutionally distinctly

in a way that is separate from the rest of society

this is actually one of the reasons marx and eagles talk about the necessity

a measuring labor value beginning only with the least quantum of unskilled labor

because the forms of labor are merely arithmetic additions multiplications of the original quantum

how to speak of a working class obviously entails those human beings

entering into the process of socialization

who are being employed based on their work in a sense of the least quantum of unskilled labor relative to their society

in our society there is more or less a standard of education skill

specifically at the national institutional level including unions but nonetheless they represent the basic standard by which human beings

enter into the realm of exchange within our economy

that's the working class

not the fucking netflix employees it's very simple

the working class is only defined by the abstraction of work

in general

because of the nature of its work

because the nature of its work is general

this is such a good quote

this is such a good

balcking quote

it's called the working class

hey i'm gonna just tweet it like this

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it's called

the working class

and not

the netflix firy fairy e they're going to say it's homophobic

the netwixs

artist class

an

eight

and not

scott

it's called the working class

the working

in working class is only general

rather than referring to a specific

special

warm

of work

because the very

nature of

the labor itself

is general

represents labor that

more or less the broad majority of people

are engaging in al rat

the type of labor

that's as simple as that

okay

hell the ar

have we alrealdly got fot tweets

and this is the first quote to quote we we' got

this is the first quote tweet this what they said

yeah bitch that's all you can do

ah that's all you can do

that's the first quote tw

you know

i was assuming a response there's no response there can never be a response

people have nothing they have absolutely fucking nothing

look at this person

the people who will throttle their liberalism turns purple on bra black friday

what

oh that's that's a good that's based ok sorry

but that was the guy was responding to because they have a similar profile p

your claim that the marxist definition of the working class is outdated and accurate

no that's not true

the marxist definition was never inadequate

but

blanketly applying

with marxis said

one hundred years ago to today is a form of opportunism

simple as

your claim that the marxist definition of the org outdated is inaccurate was never inadequate

the

it was and thus is still one hundred percent

all right

if we

we accept

that history

athens

because of its context

simple as

simple as

i i i'm literally i want to kiss this tweet i'm in love with it i i lially want to make out and kiss this fucking tweet

have sexual intercourse with this tweet

this is such a beautiful true correcti

walking

be

that

it's just fucking sexual at this point how correct it is

it's actually sexual how correct this tweet is

the working and working class is only general

rather than referring to a specific special form of work

because the very nature of the labor itself is general represents the type of labor

and more or less the broad majority of people are engaging in

i kinda want to fog this tweeed

that's how fuck and true it is

you know somethings so true that actually has become sexy

you know when something's so fucking just

simple and true become sexy

what i mean

in' of want to just fok this tweeed

you know what i mean

aw man

okay i don't

think we're going to finish this video

it like ia i went on a detour for too long

if you streamer

responses in your twitter debates it would be so much content

you stream oh yeah that's true i've done i've done streams where i just do that i just walk and stream that it

have done it

do he can do he deserves

follow

you guys goll say hi

bsy i mean i'm on e

head out to the gen

and by the way guys i'm definitely going to be on mine craft later

um

i'm definitely going to be on mincraft you have questions or whatever you have to go on mincraft to talk to me

check this out

i know i saw that i don't care

that's all i thought of doing

i'm going to go i'm going to yeah if you want to get white listed uh

go on the discord the gaming the mine praf ser there's a mine craft server section on the discord

just type your username and ask to be white listed on white list you

i mean there's no guarantee but

yeah just just

yeah i'll either do it nan how or later but

i'm going i actually ask

zer on

yeah i'm goinga ask her

hey can you make a fun now where i did be

a grow peedal

a o

fewre

did it

i'm going to upload that

servers down really i restarted

the really is done

let me restart

yeah restarted it should be up in a few minutes

okay guys bye bye

i just restarted it's going to be donising see you guys later by