AN INFRARED OCTOBER [2021-10-04]

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how do i make it so

hos can hear hos play a song with me at the exact same time right

no that a better way to do it that

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let's look itt up dude there's got to be oder way that we don't have for that shit you always want to look shit up you don't know fucking shit about shit shure you know's not you poking n better way than just playing at the same time with see i ko you in person

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play my song please i want to send it to you

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oh my god hold on

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s about housz and i if i die play this on my at my funeral and let oz drop that focking bro

a you were gay token were you anti neoliberalism o i don't even get it

all right grow you for twenty five dollars you want to de bak me jump in b jump in the waitingm you're going to go to your discord would you callw me if you want to base me on rooms i think

should moderate think there' someone who wants to debate me today

mamin's going to be quick so you'd better join

you'll join really quickly

we'll join as soon as everyone pulls in ok bro mariy i'm only giving you a shot because your money twenty five dollars a lot of money

once the debate wants rooms it's going to be boring good let me tell you it's going to do he's going to comement

oh hezer i'm a big fan just want to list

when you stop doing that bro you know there's people who find who are big fans of you you got to stop cucking the energy brok these people are your

consciousness and you're coucking the the same thing when they come on to me they say you want to debate and i bring them on and they're like actually i don't really want to debate i want to have a discussion my three do thank you so much i th you never on b mye ok fine he wants to be on band what's this fucking pwitch name

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my key sir there you go

happy

yeah

i put on a tv in my dream day

and sing her song

let me tell my chand something quickly

guys i'm talking to jerko right now

um

we were just talking and he just went live i decided to go live too

lis guys we' got a lot on the itinerary today so stay put stay focused

and um

we're going to probably debate that leftism today guy

whatever

we're also going to talk a little bit more about the luna situation but i just want to let you guys know luna oi

is a is

dangerous liar

so i need you guys to stay the fougt whatever you do stay away from lunaoi

i don't know who'styping comments but i think they're false flagging most honestly that's what it seems like because someone made a fake account on twitter

false flagging me everything i wanted to say i wrote in my essay so don't worry my essays on the substag go check it out

everything i want to say is on there

and i after this i'm done with it unless she you know wants to you know

while you're back at me

but im

i need you guys to understand

you need to stay away from littleois don't comment on their videos don't go on their live streams stay the fight don't go out near them on twitter

stay the fuck away from them

the only thing i do want you guys to do is combat misinformation about me

that's it

if you see people starting to spread rumors about me on twitter wherever you fuck and find them

just tell the truth i'm not telling you to attack people i'm telling you to combat misinformation cause they're spreading a lot of misinformation about what happened everything's on record in the fuckin document i shared

um

yeah so

yeah i know there's there's a there's a bunch of shit

so i need you guys to understand you this luna oi is a dep platformer

and she's trying to make it seem like i'm sending you guys to go bother her even though i tell you don't brigade anyone don't go near her stay away from her that's my message to you stay away from them

um i don't want anything to do with luna oil

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you know she keeps harassing me apparently she keeps tweeting about me

h you know looks like she's noth she doesn't feel like going away doesn't feel like

leaving me alone

but i consider it over after that essay they've been thoroughly discredited as a content creator

there's no way for them to come back from that

lun always done

you knowh

they might have bigger following than me for now

but that's not going to be forever you know so i don't really care about inoiy

ah

one other thing is that we actually have some communist party drama

we have some communist party drama because a virginia section of the communist party

is

telling the national committee

ah to ban me haws even though not even a member so we're going to get into the nitty gritty of all of that don't you worry about it we're going to get to in the nitty gritty of all of that

because these people are trying to do and these are the same people they don't even believe in the communist party

the just a week ago they were against the communist party but because i'm popularizing it they started to join the communist party to fucking destroy it from within and wreck the shit out of it

the trying to divide the party and kick out people who believe in american patriotism and people who are against land back

so we're going to get into the nety gritty of that and cover of that

also

we have a lot of other things to cover today so stay tuned right now we're selling with zerka

and this is going to be the beginning but

we have a lot plan also we're going to debate leftism today today as well

so stay tuned

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yeah

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ya did i didn't even stream yesterday

what this man wheres that

thse fucking spiders are falling from the sky

the four

but you have spoters in michigan

yeah

i need to clean my shirp do and i need to clean my fok in the room a

yes so

i'm going to clean my room i'm going to just clean the fock out of it this week

i'm cleaning it

ok ready for the next song

h okay the the last one wasn't that good dude i want to be honest

w i didn't ask for your opinion you little whole big bit

what is this shit this is another fook in

w sleicker and aerca broke up don't click on the song yet hold on let'se

look at this clip

oh my god ho on go send it to clip so i've can show it to my people

yes

what a fk

heard it from a friend who

heard it from another you've been messing around i'm gonna show my people

hollly shit

hold onn hold on

ah give me a second

anything i don't want to leave

nw

ah what's the issue

heard it from ay friend youho

heard from a friendo

heard it from another you've been you ready for the next song

no i'm go i'm going to play the clip now

grun it

was genuinely

i love zak i love all my friends

she was

she was

she was the person i talked to she

i play with her

and

and unfortunately bro like

and

pated but again still we shouldn't cry we shouldn't cry i shouldn't laugh about this i i'm good to hell i'm good to hell i hope she's not crying right now because she'll probably be watching this and be like this guy's an asshole like

i hope she's not like watching i've genuinely no i'm

not joking i'm stilling

what the hell did they actually break up

hello

are he defferent

yoh what the fuck was that

they actually break up i wish the best for them both are mainly ian honestly mainly slicker i don't really know erica that well

whis the well do i don't know i she is though

but

you know i wish your well

ole wished everyone well

but slicker especially be caause i actually know you know

i mean i don't know him but i watch him

what

hope hope bes alright

slicker is pretty cool

but

damn

it's crazy

does that mean he's coming out of the royal house now

maybe

maybe in fact

maybe

you know it's fucking crazy

um

i got gifted ten subs and my subs went down

did you see what agril just said

what did she say

did she want to make a point that girls don't have it easier than guys on the innet which if you look at falloerc counts oh my god do their channels grow fast in the yeah that's what i noticed is that in terms of followers that's just not true i don't know and maybe views is different but

it did in the same

in the same sentence where she's like a girls have it harder than guys

she then said i mean look at the top mal streamers like they're ugliest fuck like you know you think they're hot

why would you say that that's kind of making the point that like they're not hot to have to like at

the views doing other things

two

very weird it's acxualason

how can i love her and disagree so hard man

oh bro sorry chad how is having that day where you can't think straight

you know i'm just thinking about a lot of things dud it's bock in october and you wearing a fuck in hawaiian shirt

why din't you why don't you get in the fucking season

i don't know what to wear what do you want me to wear

towear like a fucking count dracula cape or something you know

i'm the vampire the werewolf what ire you walking

the first time in my life i'm not the were wolfs just because i met this fucking cavemn

what what a what a fucking cringe you wearing a hawaiian shirt in october

this is a

chat

p o box sirt

that's so it's such a vib kill that's that's w you happen when you live on the west coast

a soulless place that doesn't even have buck in autumn fall weather

look pullmy sririno and look at the logo look whatre i did to the logo someone made this for me

look at it if you are if you're wearing a beater i swear to go

no just forget about what i'm wearing look at my logo

someone made that

same logo

no no look at it

oh

you wearing a beater who cares it's beter it's better than a fucking hawaiian shirt

as if you're in some kind of tropical season or some shit

this is not a tropical season dude

and look dude look how cosy and comfy i'm making the stream for my foken viewers

i have this beautiful fucking

spooky logo

all right come come join we're going to talk to come join my server this guy wants a debate

let's hear your opinions to ok go red nation

okay you m

red pills up

red pill up now

he's gota drag me

so

why am i fucking youed

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mario mario

mario mushroom mushroom maiow

we can't hear you mario

i turned on the tv and in it

i sing the song

wll you wan why you have my screen pulled up

oh you're right that's a bad dumbnail

eliz abet doner

the f on

you look cool today you look

more griszly

are you going that shit out

yeah

i always look like this

may are you going to speak we

this is every person who wants to debate me this is what happens

what they don't they just back up

yam

they just don't say any or their fucking mike doesn't work and they have to fix their minde

aren't you busy losing debates on twitter

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the is a bad on my shoulder were

no fucking lie about that guys no fuck

nude i wrote a twelve thousand word essay

yeah that's why i know you're a funcky weird opra who does that

because i have to make sure everyone knows who one

and i wont

and it felt so good to write that essay and now i can go to sleep

you chad do you guys want the joker re mode to be orange and black halloween theme we can switch it up for this month

yeah i feel like i should have a halloween a month

i know liftism debate wants to

less them today want to debate me

tem to get into discord and we're going to debate him

what' abaate ofm today

if he doesn't debeate me today he's a pussy and he conces his manhood to me

i turn on the t v and on my dream case

i sing a song

alright let me uh get link you a song to play

no no i don't do people's songs i pick the song

okay

h okay

mhmm

no we're not talking like that

yah

i have aays music while you speak for fox sak

i took all your money

hearded fm a friendar

heard from a friend whoard from a say we the're talking about

w i know the neighborhoodalk cheap the stone this is a song about being slandered o

you take it on the run fair and not fav on i'm telling you not for me you say the run and you take it on the road

the bedroom guys this is the song of the american working class trust me

if tyke it on the rown and it's the way you want a ba then i don't want you not for me you're under the dus so you take it on the road

we're going to finish this song i gota hate this for i hate this for this will be the song of ca twenty twenty four

everyone spam in the chat fokland back fk land back like that in the chat fok landback

it's a then i don't want you not for you're under the gund so you take it on the rod

that's the way you want then i don't want you r you're under the gun so you take it on o

heard from a friend heard from another you been pssing around i were done

we just want to do that to trigger the lips it's literally just to trigger the lips that's it

we're done triggering the libs for now

no let's go back to see what zork is doing

ah okay

so why do you do shrooms

with the fuck

what happened

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hello

is a camel

what happened

boys both you come up for me

come up

yeah let's do it

is this is the chatter

yeah

you

you see me

all right we'll do this for a littleit

take it on the run baby

if that's the way you want a baby bear

then i don't want you run

all right introduce

wen is nicger singing r

ok

y know so my name is mario zakley i

i have paranoid schizophrenia i've had that shit since i was born i

of a bipolar

m clinically depressed

ah

i have all i've had all these issues my entire life and a

you know it's from my entire perspective

so it's been my like

normalcy forever

so

you know people be like you take shrooms you might get schizophrenia but monday already got it so you know i already took it

and the

i've been having incredible benefits from it oh well i should i should tell you what i do for a living

and i do drop shipping halfway usually howe most of my inventory

because that's the best way to that's the most efficient way to do it

i do affiliate marketing

so i work from home because that's

the most efficient way i can

you know

go go about society

you know what i'm saying just working around people just doesn't work out for me because uh

i'm bob po as well so any time somebody tells me what the fuck to do' s not real quick i don't like authority just how it is

uh so i have to

of them

it i've i've been in eight fights i've never lost i don't know how to stop

when when shoel ha i'm also a sociopath as well

and a narcissistic what do you mean is well i'm not what do you mean as well

ah

what yeah i means what

well that's what that's why i watch you because you have certain traits that i just relate to so

ik it is what it is like

you know

i just be honest real recognize real not trying to psych you dick or nothing but

this real recognize real

and uh you

when i when i go out in public it's very hard for me i'm also

kind of artistic a little bit

so

h when i got in public when people were doing these fake facades and like always smiling and shit i

i have to

a focus on body language

ah

to like really understand

just

i don't know that's that's how i

can communicate with my focus is just body language and shit like that so when they're doing fake

shit it just really sticks out

and uh it kind of annoys a fluck out of me and just you get you know you get disgusted with fakeness very dis it's a overwhelming cringe filling and

i can't i have to always kind of be authentic

or i have to say the first thing because my fucking head

well because if i hold back i feel bad like i have remorse

like later on

like i should have acted on that shit so i

y

is mutal croud

you pressed the mute i think

to back

that's my introduction i shut the fuck up that's my narcississic

ship sid to be get out there but i

yeah

you's not an in you're not like an influencer

uh no not at all um i just

like what the fuck i like and

just like my style and it is what it is

i i enjoy playing games and you know i spend a lot of money on

what the fuck i actually like

and not

what other people like because that what other people like just doesn't mean shit you know what i'm saying it has no influence over your life at all

so

you just have to just be yourself at all times because if you're not yourself

you you're not shit

really

you know what i'm saying and i'm a i'm a introvert extravert when i need to be

i hope that makes sense

mm

it on my abvert

and the

yeah man i i just know how to move and

do you play bitges

yes

all the time within this month

yes

the last bish i had was thirty three years old

oh

yeah

ok good for i've never had a problem with

girls at all because i'm very direct

so you're not really struggling at all you're making money and you have a good life

yes

why i don't i don't mean to be blunt like that i'm not a materialistic person

but i did you know cash out on a two thousand and sixteen carter

the lateit fucking model genesis coop just out of spite because a nigger was talking hella shit about me and i

you know i just had to do what i had to do because

it is what it is

nigg some niggers are wired like that some aren't and that's just how i'm wired and you know what his

they say

you'll never leave the middle class if you're out there buying liability

so be den

and i want to get to that i want to get to that so

oh

there there's a weird dilemma and

per there's a weird thing going on with

uh this this fight about people being materialistic and people being like uh

only very money hungry

the way i view the world is

i like to view it like it's exactly like gta

exactly like g t a just broke it down very simply

and

if you if you do that shit it's like a

i've lost my point

god damn it

but if you do that shit is it makes the world very simple like

hey if you want to lose weight

continue to work out

you know just consistency is key if you consistency

consistently work on something

the possibility of it failling doesn't make

it is kind of obsoleutely like i don't don't leave room for luck

you knowp that makes sense you know like i i don't believe in words like luck and hope

's kind of

yh i felt like

yeah yeah i feelt like that shit kind of um

holy shit its vivij

that fucking pussy who crawled back to me to suck my cock after i bann them and they said oh good being your mosttve discord poster and he fuckings in my chat now crawling back to me like a fucking pussy to suck my cock

you see how they crawl back to me and i spit in their face

you saw these people i exiled and they thought i would die without them

crawled back to me to suck my cock

and i spit in their falk and face

yeah buck and pussy

little bdge

showing your face here is the most bitch move you could possibly do

you leave you leave for good bs the only thing you con do is be a fuck and wreckor

and we'll catch you like a little fuck and mouse s by the tail

buck and loser

its m since you have a dhd this is what i do when 'm streaming

see the titcht i don't post comments i just write down what i thought of

and that way i have a bunch of notes i go back to

because i have the same issue

yeah

i'll feel that

i i i should i needer start taking medication for this shit i start uh

after all

uh yeah i i told him specifically after all but um

that

i'm having my brain like

i don't know what the fuck they're doing we're still i just saw my uh

this is i just got a third

therapist i just saw him

about

uh about four days ago and they're all were all

bll

how expensive you set a third therapist

is this yet a lot of money

it's well since i have good insurance's not that my inssurance kind of covers it

so i

yes

so what's that debate about

the mushrooms and the positivities of it

o i should have killed myself a long time ago

i attempted three times and then i find i found

lyions main

a specifically microdose and psychedelic mushrooms

i found that and i

i thew amazing man

i genuinely feel amazing i'm not going to front with you there's times when i do feel depressed i'm not going to give you no bullshit there is times

when i do feel the press but i feel that this's life you've got to have the negatives

and the positives

you know but try to focus on the fucking positive

but go ahead

so you've attempted three times holy shit

yeah man

and then ever since trooms now you now you champion trooms

i definitely champion shrooms yes

i

but

i have a way more positive outlook on life

one

i do i just have a way more positive outlook on life it's very hard to explain be caause it's

it's more of a perspective thing

perspective is the most important thing in the world was a dosing what did you started

so

two pills

i started at two and now i take six pills a day

i i don't want to i don't know if you want me to like flash a product on your screen but

it's right here and you don't know to that you know ok so so you know you you pretty much feel like you're completely like

fine now like on hundred percent

i'm not going to say on hundred percent man i will be buish in you you know i'm saying but i do feel like i'm

not

i have a very decent baseline you know what i'm saying i have bipolar

so when you have barpolar

your mood switches

like

crazy like this is me got chilled out because i'm smoking weed as well you know we' be smoking you fill me

so that's having that base on is what you need

to really get a grip of yourself and especially if you have bipolar so you will have extreme down days where you're extremely depressed that's how that's how my shit was going

why we have extreme down thelays why i'm depressed why i don't want to do shit

like shit it all like don't fuck with me

like turn off the lights

you know i

you know detox myself and social media that's a big that's a number one to detoxing yourself in social media

people going esagram and shit they're always comparing themselves

that shit is

you

the fuck everybody else man you you're the most important mother fucking you know i'm saying you got to be the main character in mother fucking movie

so that that's why i go with

i don't i your g your movie your own mm o but

here's why i'm so sceptical ofances youe

familiar with twitch streamers right

i love it

there is a streamer named rekfall

who took his own life and he was like always doing shrooms and he's saying oh they're making me feel better and so i that

but i don't know how much

it strum seems like such a cope to someone having a lot of issues

you know what i mean

so my this is

this so i'm not trying to

like necessarily

say

one hundred percent everybody should do it

this is my perspective

i already have schizophrenia

i was born with schizophrenia

so

when i see

people have

not not

if it's very hard to

to say because i don't know people's perspective

and i know a little bit what happened with wreckfell

but

that's kind of the one percent man

like right major majority of people have a good

outlook

after they take shump

majority of people

j if you fok that not me though

with then you're not the majority

but majority of people kind of have a good positive outlook on it and this is a key this is another thing man you've got to realize this is not no regular fucking medicine

you when people say you should kind of get to a point where you know yourself

a little bit or you come you go into this drug with a good mine state

that shit is important

before i take before i took my last psychedelic shroon trip

was like six months ago or someth shit some shit like that

i knew going into that trip

what i wanted out of it

i knew i wanted to

to know more about myself if you're fucking

chilling with the boys chilling with the homies and you know you

say man fuckle let's take shoms if you don't go in the bishop go in the objective with a mission

you know it's

of course there's possibilities you can get lost i mean if you want to explain your what happened on your trip man let me know what's good

well i took it

when i was seventeen

or steven sixteen i don't i forget it was uh almost ten years ago

and to this very day because of both rooms and lsd

took only once each

to this day you know when i have insomnia or when i you know even i have some edibles to go to sleep

i had really intense

intensely bad experiences where i feel like

i'm going insane and i can't come back to the real world and i'm just losing any sense of sanity

so did you say you took ls d

after yeah

which is weaker right

o

it depends they say shoms are way harder than that's what they say

at the i don't know i don't i mean i don't hippi as shit

the thing is man

ls d can be laced

they could have told you they gave you l s d that s could have blazed

i'm i trying to say i it was pure elice because because it was the same thing as the shroom trip

but more intense

um

not not only more intense but it's just like

i don't know that it's it's uh

it's really about keeping my sanity keeping the and the idea of doing shrooms like now

really terrifies the folkonom me and just scary because let me cut you let me cut you off for a second because like

that's where's getting flucked up

you're saying shrooms and youre saying l s d these are two whole different fucking jell both of them fucked me up

and like pretty razy know you ca these are two different trips you cannot combine these two different triops you know i'm say i'm say if they're different but they're similar enough in the sense they do activate a certain madness in you that just

you just

are on a different sphere you know like so for me they were pretty similar

ok

that's that's like saying synthetic weed

and

you know

regular t c weed is the same ship

like i said i don't know if that i think it's the same like excess of seratona they only just as worres fucked up because that el is thet you took you is not

on hundred it's not like you got it from a lab you know they got they got

controlled places where they make legit per l d

yeah but it's it wasn't like

it was not wildly different from the shrooms you know it was just that i took

took them and then the

you know it was just

the shrooms also fucked me up the whole summer afterwards when i took shrooms

i really felt like i was going in sane you know after i took them

and then i did i was d because i thought it might reverse it but it just made it worse you know

you're muted again

again

make sure the green bar around you is lighting up

on dis

yeah i don't know i don't know about all this so

welean go

you you you again ok

okay so

i've had two ells the trills broug

and

both of them were dog shit

so this is why i'm kind of gett piped up about the subject and i had

a friend i'm not going to say his name

but he's taken ls d well what they thought was ls d and he he does

you fuckin dd

would you and they both got a wll to people i know

and she was a female and she died as well

this is wobbling to the point that that could have possibly have been laced i'm talking about pure shrooms natural grown shrooms from the fucking ground

you get what i'm saying

se

that's like me said hey man i don't know about

weed because when i took we and it did some fucking heroin i don't know like that doesn't work but

you feel me

and i

i hate that that happened to you

and i hate that i ruined your relationship with shrooms

but

it

you can't

you ca just because of the experience you cannot you know

it the issue with me is that i

i really feel like my sanity is a

rests on a thin line and is the ability for me to cab a coherent experience of reality

and

i really think that psychedelics

really just kind of fuck

that ure

you know like they fuck up my ability to just

and it's like i every even when i take wheat i or i take uh edibles

i really feel like i'm permanently going to lose my ability to just

eegounded in reality and just have a coherent experience of reality

and have be able to have like a

coherent train of thought

you know

so that's why it's really dangerous for me is it like it's just

it's really tough

y we all take our sanity for granted but like

i really do think you could activate

um

are really dark

experience

anybody i hear you

i'm already fucked on the other side i'm already

insane burth

you dig

and

i'm not talking about you necessarily taking atrem i'm not talking about a lot of psychedelic mushrooms you know i mean

so about microdoses

yeah microdose in mushrooms you can take these

you can buy these from a amazon lions main

mushrooms you don't necessarily trip off of these

you know what i'm saying

and the

i don't know to me personally i've stablished a baseline with that

yes

to to me personally you know like i

to me there's nothing better than just good people

just being surrounded by good people you know

i saw that

that to me like that's just the best thing

just being around other people

you have a lot of work and you a lot of good people on you

i have specifically real people that are

always

very truthful with me and not yes ma'am

so when you

look that look for that people your circle is very small

so my friends are

about five friends

but got about five close friends uh

mostly from kentucky

and the

i used to have one friend here but he you know talked shre about me behind my back

got very low tolerance of busllshit and it is what it is

you know i go about my path

and you go about yours

i'm i'm mostly

i but i am a i'm very good at being alone wolf you know what i mean

and don't get used to that dude that is no way to live

listen what

that's a falcon

that's a trap

oh yeah i might gett used to it see i had to lock myself in solitary with inside my room for about eight years to really truly

find myself you understand

oh you said eight years

about eight years

yeah

true and this is me like really

trying to come out because i

me i looked at a lot of motivation videos and

shit like that not

thry at

be like all cornean shit with that but they were

what they all in a

whole sum of it was like

you need to truly find yourself to

h meditation or

this really

knowing who the fuck you are and i took the risk i had a lot of friends man

a whole lot of so what about the during covid where you isolated then or was a little bit

yeah a little bit

yeah see i i was uh i eight years is insane to me i i was isolated for like a few years and i thought that was just crazy like holy fuck no one could do this

but it flew by i was i was very dedicated into

e how old are you now

i'm twenty four

oh wow

what about did you go to high school and everything or

yeah yeah i went to high school all that you know you know worries me abou all that you if you noticed most people

who go to shrooms are the same people

who have a lot of suicidal thoughts

has anyone noticed that

but i' started i was borning with this

right right right right but i feel a lot better and it doesn't come up

yeah you feel better and you see someone and are they pro rooms your therapists and stuff

yeah

well no no no no no no no

he doesn't even know the

about the shrims at all

all right so

i never brought him up brought it up to im

and i'm just

you know i but i've been taking these before i even found my therapist you know what i mean

and

i've had nothing but positive effects about

did someone recommend it to you they're like hey you're going through a lot

take this lines man you

well

i've had a i've had a psychedelic uh trip before that

you know when you

we

csycedlls are very hard to get

a hold of

and you know when you get the trip

it it's like you really just get in tun with yourself

yeah and uh someone like you the last thing you want is to trip you want a micro right

you said that yeah

no no i'll let you know aout the haart

ever

no i do try i

typically take about a eighth

three point five yeah

oh wow ok so you'll be seeing shit

not not necessarily only when i close my eyes

only when i close my eyes but i see like the walls waving in shit i like to listen to music

you know i like to just

focus on thinking positive thoughts

and all that shit and i just you know i have a

you know hands you experience with it

you know side music or happy music

ah

k cuddy is typically my go to

i could ly i love cuddy we always played on my stream i love you i forgot you

do what

he could be pretty sad to the way his music goes

yeah

so i don't know

especially on toms and it's like it's the album when it's like

twisting like this

right right right has like beavis and bhead interlose in it

yes that's usually my go to

once the moon on i forget the moon i never remember these fucking names but the yeah i don't either i just i

yeah

that that was ok

i don't know but to me it sounds crazy because you say you have schizophrenia and you do shrew

how do you think

aren't you ever worded of a bad trip coming your way or no

see what people are worried about is having schizophrenia

think already got it

yeah yeah but

wouldn't trunes be like a catalyst for

what you mean

w want a supercharge a trip

no not really

i mean i don't know i only know my perspective

you understand

that's all that's all i know and i just

for me i just feel

good like i just feel like i'm coasting and like

kind of like

melted into shit

just a decent baseline

but i don't is tind that music is the most important thing

i never tried them because i realized when i'm introspective that's when i hate myself you know like it's on

it only gives me wisdom for the time being but

really i feel like

like the best example i've got is i wouldn't enter a fight

onush rooms

right

so to me there

you know that's the weakest form of any form of myself would be the one high on shrooms or high on weed or anything introspect

well there's a time and place for everything that's why i suggest taking shrooms when you're

to yourself and not inan area where you

a buy the breakdown of fight

do know but i'm going to have this discipline

i'm saying it's like

i don't want to be more introspective and inward i feel like that's going to

haunt me eventually

no

so me going inside myself in

really

like understanding my flaws like i know i'm flawed i know i'm a asshole i know i talk over people i know people dislike me i know people like me

the problem the thing not even a problem the thing is you've got to realize

don't give a fu

fuck everybody do what you want to do you can't be like by

i know there some people probably not fuckleing me

it's cool

you just cannot be like it be ok with just say fuck everybody

you know i'm saying

and you talk it about looking into yourself i'm

that's that's why i said flaws are like possible fuck ups or anything

you need to realize like yeah you fucked up you did that what are you going to do about it

what are you got to do about it

you got to you' got to be a doer you cannot just be chilling like not all shroom you users are just fucking you know just chilling breath you're not shit

definlly not productive

do what

they're not productive

no'm i do business one hundred like all the fuck and time but that's all i do

that's all i do all fucking doms the time where you like turn your brain off and chill

right sd shouldn't

did you do it on your day off or was you working to

so it there

they're not n these lions mans are not non psychedelic

you guys they

they help like uh

hey guys where's imutt where's the leftism today where's leftism today guys

don't to get in the disc ward

and i'll debate him

he challenged me to a debate right wheres he yet

bring him on

tell to get in the discord and we'll see how he fares

facing me face the faces

he was talking a lot of shit

um

a five

ok on n

what

we have so much to cover today guys

i'm going to stay here stay a little bit longer in this but

we do have to cover a lot

so must go back

specifically

hanging with the wrong crowd

they weren't really trying to do anything with their life

there we their conversations were like

ah manly

you think this's ni go on this car or you think you think that like just material like

fucking haters

you know what i'm saying and the start fucking with my mind

you got you just got to separate yourself from the pacg

and just

there's a lot of little things that you have to do

you cannot rely your whole your whole shit on mushrooms and shit

what else do you think

m

just mushrooms and

we

yeah

n long

wise man and wed i' never

like

any of that shit you know i

you i'm black so

the cocaine

uh pen epidemic really affected

yet a lot of people had

a lot of people in my family

so

i've always looked at you know drugs

like

hard drugs like that pretty

i

yeah

so from the job i me my

is the last thing

touches like ok

hhuh

the last thing you should touch is cok yeah yeah i know

that i know that

i look y mother i got energy bre

i got energy and i feel good

it is what it is

how do you feel right now

great

this week i in

thousand

why would you do this week

i work out you know i had the

since i stay in my room a lot so this is my workout mat and then i got a

o

workout bike right here

and i

i'll pull it out if you think i'm captin

he got energy

in the

look at this guy

we believe you ro

like

i grunt you know what keeps me feeling good is granding i got you know sticky notes and shit like

i like to stay organized if i don't have that bayside of grinding

like that's the thing my focus just rely on shit like

that's not what i'm saying don't lean on mushrooms like it's going to fix your life you've got to fix these little things

you know what it is you said you like being organized

being organized is control and that's all someone with mental health issues is trying to find right control again

yes

and stability

that's whaty i said about baseline

youthink with zerka

he's interested in topics i just don't care about

you know

like a

this guys cool but like this is just not my cup of tea

this is not really up my alley you know

we're going to stay a little bit longer but

bear with me guys just bear with me

just stick through it oka we're going to cover a lot today

we have a lot of cover

isn't it scary though without the lines main how many days of happiness would you get just based off your

you alone

i'm not sure

oka

but the the idea of it is like

not to always necessarily

take them you supposed to take them to like

well i mean actually you can't take them forever i mean they're natural

and i' mean

right

it appe i guess it depends on the individual if somebody feels like they don't need to take them

any more don't say

and

yeah i mean they're not addictive they're not addictive

yeah

let me pull up what you said to me you said um da da

i message you and i message like cayute ba some shit like that

right

yeah

why what did she know about the topic

tip

i was i saw i saw your name and her shit i was like fucking

yeah i should get on a show you're funny

it's likeh she has like those dating shows

wright

so now i'm wondering

the are you the type of guy who has a game plan for the next you know few months

om

is it write down goals and shi

yeah i mean i have a clothing brand it's called darken size supply i eventually want to start

oh putting

ever

damn i just

i mem in a delibra

i mad it like thought i shit out there

but it's you think i avoid a fun i don't i mean you better a lit i got to fas working to story you better self promote i love that shit i'm going to

that'f right

do that br

i got a fast working brain so i just

tll it's and i use of this bush allo what do you think i would have done on your street i would self promote to

okay narcissusar fuck with okay yeah we wn't have time you we don't have time for the other shit right i don't have time for i really don't give a fuck about phill i to be honest with you but i mean if you want to see like a a a hoodi

uh or so but uh bring it out bring it out okay

ok

whatce i want at my own brand anyways

my brand's going to be so much sicker jad sicker than this guy's brand like you don't even know jad like we could talk shit right now he's off the thing

right

yo on

i got to debate somebody

aur pleace please please

see you

all right

we're back guys

sorry gues

um

it it'd be fun but i i skipp to the stream

so

we we got to catch up on a lot of shit so apparently luna and non compete were talking shit about me

on their stream

i'm not even going to link their stream because

i don't want any of you going near them

but let me see what they said ting you right now

and i'm sorry folks i know this is 'an interesting to a lot of people and i'm not even interested in talking about it but it's just such a thing it's become such a thing we got to talk about it so i'm sorry

if you if you tune out tonight i understand but you know i think the truth needs to be told and

um anyway okay so

hold on

this is what

has actually said

you mean women of color who literally

yeah you took it out of context so in case anyone's curious about what actually happened

um

everything's i wrote everything i chronicled everything and i'm like

there's no doubt about it now you know like they're trying to take it out of context and uh make shit up

but this yeah the youf you actually fucking see what happened

they're completely lying let's see what they saend

it's not about ego that's not to forgot

in old twitt the twitts that are in question come from before covid it was a long time ago

yeah

hen was addressed it many times so this is from august twenty sixth two thousand and twenty one

loose sad

because somebody had a message fro on facebook about the same thing right

so i know i'm jus going to the tweet was dated january twenty one twenty one of the fuck are you talking about

read it this is why

i don't feel comfortable discussing china in front of white people

cassi luna had all this discussion

a long time ago

before she

i'm so sick of hearing about these falk and people these fulk and frauds i'm sick of hearing about these people and uh

why am i talking to him you see why i brought him up in the first place why what does he have to do with it

that's why i brought him up in the first place like

i feel like he's really running things you know he really runs the show it seems like

f you learn the hard truth which is that

you can't talk about these thing astly make that you i'm sorry and yeah so because like because

m

people try to stoke conflict about china and vietnam between them you know they think it's fun they think it's like an interesting thing to she literally said she would love to see a war break out but between china and vietnam

that's her she tweeted that you know you know it's funny guys

i tweet something and they take it out of context and they blow it out of proportion like it's a big deal

that wet was fucking nothing that was not a big deal you musch a fucking cry babies if you think it was a big deal you everon was reading into it into all this psychologic it's literally on the surfaces it's really you're really reading into it don't we sitting here acting like

you know oh we're people of color we're fighting the oppressive white men we hate white men we hate the white people yeah but then you go when you're married to one

it's as simple as that

you know what i mean like

that's lially all i was pointing out

don't give me this bullshit that you're people of color fighting the white man

because they're calling me the white man oh the white man this the white man that and you're married to a white man so what do you want me to say i of course i'm going to point that out

don't give me that dumb bollshit

and they blow it out of proporsion like it's a big fuckin deal what i said and they're sharing it everywhere

ah be i said what do you mean what what did i say i didn't say anything

i was so surprised that like

immediately when i teetd it

everyone started to lose their shad

and started reading into it projecting all this fuck and bullshit

you know it's fucking crazy

it's literally insane but guys

i literally couldn't sleep

for how much balking harassment and shit i was getting whatever i don't even like calling it harassment that bitshit

but you know i putn't sleep because i was like what are they going to spin next what shit are they going to make up about me next

because she has fifty five

thousand fuck and followers on twitter she literally says whatever the fucx she wants

and i can't do anything about it

and literal cry bully

literal criblive

a literal cry bully she's teaming up with a white man

to target an arab man

to target a fuck and arab man you know you know my crime is guys you want to know like the whole dynamic that's going on here so the basic dynamic that's going on is that

leftist don't think that we non white men are allowed to be man men we're not allowed to be men

we're supposed to be eunics and we're supposed to be cocts

who are not men that's what they want us to be right

and

none can be said that you are sexually harassing her

by calling him a sexpat

insinuating that she's a sex object yet read my article because i address that

if you use logic even if i was calling non compete a sex pats

the most that would imply is that he views her that way not me

it doesn't actually imply anyone's a sex object

the most it could imply is that he views her that way

then even further logically speaking even that's not necessarily implied he could still be a sexpat

and have been have treateing others as

a sex objects and maybe with her something else happened

two

you cald there's no reason you have to jump to the conclusion like she did that i was calling her a sex object

the reason she said that is because she's a disgusting person and a liar

who and you i point out the rinson repeat formula in my fucking article

what luna oi does is that

she blows everything out of proportion so that her couck audience will oh i'm so sorry you had to deal with that luna oh i'm so sorry you had to deal with that luna like

she she gets this positive feedback and reinforcement from being a cry bully on fuck and twitter

you know

that's how that's the whole origin of that

yeah there's a really weird

guy here i'm going to just ban him

guys stay away from these falking people

stay away from these fucking

scumbags

he's going on in around thirty minutes what a puszzy

okay

and i hope he keeps up the same energy too because he was talking a lot of shit

but

yet she feigns outrage and sympathy

and tries to victimize herself

and this what i said in the articles like

imagine

i guess i guess she has a really hard life

you know she just

sits around and collects patrion subs really hard life guys super hard life

it's a hard knock life you know what i mean like

no one would ever want to trade places with them

in vietnam

they have such a tough life

you know

and they deserve so much sympathy and mutual aid in things because a random twitter comment

you know those fucking random comments i get about me that i just block in deletes and i don't even tell you guys about them

ninety nine percent of them i don't fuck and tell you about it

i don't think i'll even talll you about one percent

you know

i don't even think i'll talll you about one person

th

s her audience is dumb a shit too because

she's claiming that this is i'm going to read her tweet she just isolated a random you tube comment and she goes the targeted sexual and racial harassment continues this is all part of the design of this smear campaign

to objectify me as a sex object and inferior race

without agency

i can handle this but i worry for haws's next victim what the fuck is that

air dambian doonated fifty dollars

social imperiorist

thank you redm bances appreciate you what the literal fuck is that

what

the targeted sexual what the fuck are you talk and it was a design

it was a design what who fucking designed what

what was the design

but then i expose it right

but this is a pattern you'll notice with luna because of the feedback mechanism with their bysor snowplake audience she's learned to weaponize self victimization and exaggerated to the highest extent

in order to feign sympathy and make her audience feel tasked with the duty of protecting her

now there's some crucial differences youye have to understand

if she had like ae hundred followers or was smaller than me

maybe there would be a case for this right i'm going after a really small

streamer thank you farrakhan appreciate you

i go after a a

streamer

and

they're really small and then yeah my audience is overwhelming them with

hate comments and whatever that's a really irresponsible thing to do

but she has fifty five thousand followers on twitter i have five thousand

put it into perspective guys she has ten times more fucking followers than me

and she's way more well known than i am

and she's the falckin victim here

guys guess how guess who got more hate lunar me

guess who got more extreme hate luna or me

did i bitch about it once

of course i got way more fuck and hate

i literally haard people threaten my life say i should be killed

i thatt people give me death threats

plenty of people gave me death threats because of the lunar's irresponsible tweeting

accusing me of

over blowing shit because i tweeted a sentence at her

you know that you know i've gotten death threats because of luno oil

no one wants to talk about the fact i got literal death threats because of lunar oil i got people in my d m s saying crazy shit i didn't even report it

i didn't bitch about it once he isolates like one or two bad comments

from people i don't even falk a ne thank you g mac

and she's acting like there's a targeted campaign against her what a sick disgusting person what a litteral sick disgusting person

ba thank you rose

appreciate you

you know fucking crazy that is

between zero like snordy and pags i was pointing out suc this for example she she quote twee did a guy

a completely irrelevant person

zero likes it was she could you know

blocked them and reported the tweet to moved on they quote twee did it

and she turned herself into a victim and feigned outrage because he one fucking negative and the comment wasn't even targeted against her

she quoted me to comping yeah but isn't isn't it a problem that there are sexpaths in vietnam

and she blew up at it

she's literally a baby

she cant even handle the fuck in's smallest criticism

or the smallest negative comment

that's nothing compared to what i f i get foughk in death threats and those death threats are actually credible

those death threds are actually credible

her videos on vietnam are interesting though

i do not trust any video she's ever put out about anything she lies through her teeth

and whatever she's saying about vietnam you really have to take it from a grain of salt if you want to know more about vietnam

i recommend you talk to vietnamese communists

i recommend you talk to vietnamese communists

who are whose target is vietnam

and talk to them because they are actually representatives of vietnam

she is just pandering to breadtube's audience

and collecting patrion subs

why is she so popular

it's part of what i told you she victimizes herself and makes her seem vulnerable

which is psychoanalytically it makes her audience think that she's like

requires them to protect her and it makes them feel recognized and it makes them feel important right

and m

she also combines

the pretence to marxism let s she turns marxism leninism into a form of biswar slave morality

which is basically like marxism leninism is just about

a victims being victims and crying about it and coping about it and that's what marxism lenism is it's just about vict so

her her entire idea the so i'm going to there's something called bisul jenz dong whatever you want to call them leftist

and their idea is that yes we marxist lenin or marxist lenis in the past they were very tough

you know it's really weird they're like

yeah

m stalin thank you norzy stalin and proletarian dictatorships were very brutal and harsh

but it was because they were victims

it's that you know a lot of like condescending white races

we'll always like

try and like excuse crime and they'll just be like

well

i have sympathy for you know

whatere drug dealers and all this stuff because

you know it's like they overlook shit you know what i mean they're doing that for maxist leninist states in a really condescending way

at going just

turning them into victims right and you know it's crazy it's like metal with the five thank you so much topreciate you a lot thank you so much you know it's really weird because it's like

it's almost like luna oi

is making it seem like proletarian dictatorships

is just the rule of a cry bullies cry bullies were like you g out five million people but the reason was because i was that but that's not how it was right that's wasn't how it was

you know that there wasn't this eternal self victimization

there was the sense of strong sense of self defense

and protecting the proletarian dictatorship

but it wasn't this rule of snowflake cry bullies who are like

but they're trying to make it seem like that's how it is like

yeah i'm an anarchist

but i excuse vietnam's proletarian dictatorship because they're victimized p o c and and they're not as smart as the white anarchists like me who know better see i'm noton compete i'm a smart anarchist and i know better but i'm going to excuse vietnam for having a proletarian dictatorship because they are just lower than me and they don't know you see the racism and the condescending shit

you see how that shirt works

how they combining identity politics

white condescending racism with the pretense to marxism leninism

you see what i mean they're making it seem like

it's just the same way anarchists fetasize indigenous people they fetsize proletarian dictatorships as just

p o c

who were just

forced

into what they were because of

they were victimized by you know american white supremacy

yeah that's such a stupid and condescending fuck and view that's just a stupid and condescending fuck and view

you know the truth is

isam

proletarian dictatorships are ruled by strong

people not weak people

a they're ruled by victors and not victims victors not victims

you know

um

so

well here's an interesting thing

now we're going to move to the c pusa drama

check this scod general

oh my god okay

what

ok is this an own is this some kind of own or like

guys i guess i got owed

you want to see the oon

and a pure uus aviors one thing i'm proud of is how international my audience is

the people in the us im most interested in reaching ore yeah you might be claimed to be interested in reaching them but i guarantee you one hundred percent of these are white

forty five percent from the u k

wow okay seven point five from brazil i guess that's an outlier

then you get another

nine so nine plus this is

fifty four percent the majority are from anglo countries

actually fifty six percent

are from anglo countries

and you have four percent from vietnam is this supposed to be interesting or impressive

this is not impressive itm this is a really big cell phone

like this is the biggest cell phone i've ever seen in my life

why would you tweat us

why the fuck would you even tweat that

the fuk

how would you even teat that

it's such a weird thing to tweitt

like that's an on

oh

that's an on

why is that known

that's not an own at all

that's pathetic actually

for real that's pathetic

i see

that's like just a huge cell phone i'm going to be honest

if you have just

so i'm based in the u s and forty five percent of mine are in the u s as well

so think of how much of a self own that is i'm a fucking american

and my audience is forty five percent united states did you know that

my audience is forty five percent united states

so that's just a cell phone

plain and simple

i have no idea why she tweeated that like that's some kind of like

what what what was she trying to prove i don't get it

forty five percent of my audience is from the us

that's stupid

let's see what is this

international diplomas anyway

total total si i know but anyway

so the response the next response was

to say that luna gets all of her ideas forrom me because i'm a sex pat

that's not what i said you fucking liar

that's not what i fucking said at all you fucking liar

i said she's getting her ultra left take

from you

which is fuckin true

it is poking through she's getting it from you

no fuck and marxist leninist who's not influenced by americans

it is going to come to the conclusion

that you're not supposed to be a patriot in your own fuck and country

how many of you speak chinese how many of you speak chinese russian

'or indian how many of you

or hindu or whatever how many of you guys speak that those

one of those three languages

you speak russian

little russian you speak ukrainian

so if you asked russian communists hey should american communists be patriots what would they say oh you speak mandarin if you ask chinese metizens

im

are communists sppsed to be patriotic what would they say

because the ones i've talked to are like yeah

that's a given

that's literally like implied in the word communism

by communism

patriotism how could you fuck and be a communist and not be a patriot

communist ha hope the worst for america

no the they hope the worst for american imperialism the american government and the american deep state

just like i would

right

i would hope the worse for those three things as well

of course i would hope the worst for those

are you fucking kidding

so they actually deleted

lan america we say if you don't love your country you don't love your mother yeah

it's literally like that

so they so get this guy something fucking crazy right you guys want to see some crazy drama

check this out

they deleted this

but thankfully i save

i'm so evil

i thougk and saved it

as i'm not letting em get away with that shit

yes i'm saving that

i' save this tweet

so because of this whole thing going on with luna

look at this

this is about me by the way

i got a question

guys you know we outnumber them right

you know we outnumber them

so for youos

for my american viewers

are you goninga let them do this to the communist party

are you going to let them do this to the communist party

are you going to let them get away with that

when have i called for expelling anyone from the communist party

when have i called for

circumventing democratic centralism and disrupting

the form of the party

and bringing on this online shit on to the party when have i advocated for that hah all i've advocated for is formal ideas to be proposed

and go through the democratic centralism follow the rules of the party that's what i fuckin advocated for

but the virginia communists far to usa

has voted unanimously

to formally submit a letter to the national committee of the communist party

regarding chauvianistic and racist behavior displayed on social media

by individuals and only three alleged party members

so guys this is m

all well and fine

there's one little detail the virginia comunist party forgot

one little detail

one

esy beasy little detail

you ready

i'm not a member of the party for exactly this fucking reason

for exactly this reason i'm not a member of the party i'm just going to advocate for people to join the party you're not en going to be able to tell who my fucking supporters are

guys if you're my supporter don't even tell them

just get our ideas through sneak them

don't tell them you're my supporter just

be in the party and fight the land back bullshit and fight for land reform

and they're going to have like a mccarthyite witch hunt pirds like who's an inford supporter who's an infrared supporter don't tell them

just be like yeah i don't know that houss guy i don't watch i don't go on the internet myself

guys

i used to be kind of like don't join a party listen if you're looking for a party to join in the u s and you just want to do that join this fuccing party set up chapters locally join this party

set up local chapters

and just don't tell them about me

don't tell them about me

we are the freemasons of the communist party i'm kidding

but i'm just the media guy i'm the fuck and twitch streamer i'm just an internet guy

and all i'm doing is helping their party grow

they've actually thought about against the c usa itself and cable moppin

so' gon to tell you

join the party

follow the party's rules obey democratic centralism

listen let me tell you gys how you got to do this because you really need to have something called

proletarian discipline what lenin called proletarian manhood

if you're a woman you can call it proletarian womanhood wherever you want

to listen

these people might outnumber us in the party first

so they might actually pass the land reform ship

right and they might vote to agree on that

i need you guys

don't wreck the party

or resign or throw a fit

if they're going to do that kind of shit

this you don't agree we don't agree with that but we we want to obey the democratic centralism of the party right

whatre you going to do

is you

you know how they say we're going to push we're going to reform

you're going to be reformists for the communist party you're going to obey all of their rules

to transform the party

obey democratic centralism

and fight to change the party

following the rules don't disrupt

and wrecch it

that's why i don't join the party myself because i would be a force of disruption

which would

put a lot of pressure on me because

the leadership would be a losesus fuckin ozguy causing all this trouble

he's disrupting our day to day business

you know

our means of supporting ourselves and you know keeping the party functional

he needs to be removed

and i would be just eliminated right so i'm doing this from media and this is how we're going to take over the communist party and guys there's nothing they can do about it ought the the virginia communist party members

these are just this is like probably a group of five people that are friends with each other

they're trying to disrupt democratic centralism

you know what

guess where these falkon people came from

guess where these fuking people came from

the fock in the essay

the fuck in d sa used to do the same

thuk me shit

they would set up falkon local chapters and have stupid falcon also leve falkon sid falking things in their chapters gonzaloes and anarchists and they would play his game wre the try to go against the fucking central leadership of the d s a launching the true revolution with me and my five comrades and they always

they fm these local chapters and just shit up the bucket party

don't talk and let them do this we infrared people our motto is this obey the central command democratic centralism

we will obey the central command

we are not going to you guys set up local chapters but obey the central party

we want to take over the central operations of the c pu s a and by we i mean

people i can convince for to my perspective if we fail we fail if we succeed we succeed

we have a vision for a different type of communist party one that returns to its roots and one that has a different vision of what the popular front means

the only way we're going to get these ideas through

is by initiating a vigorous but peaceful and non disruptive debate within the party respectful we're not going to be bullying in shit

and that's all we got to do

oka

but you cannot mention you're an infrared watcher

don't tell them you're in infrareid watcher

keep me out of it

keep me out of it

they're not going to be able to root you out a matter of fact how many of you live in virginia

if you live in virginia join the virginia communist party take over the fucking party

i'm calling on virginia infrared viewers to join the virginia communist party each and every one of you

and vote these people out

and don't tell them don't tell them you're my viewer and you watch me

do not tell them you're my viewer

do not tell them you watch me

and make sure make sure

if they accuse you of being a haz infrared viewer

you just have to be like i don't really watch the internet i don't really go ont listen

they had very nothing

they can't ban newcomers from joining

they can't fuck and ban newcomers from joining

they cannot ban newcomers from joining

peter riley please make a video of this

i'm calling on virginia people living in virginia join the virginia communist party

if they

this allow people to join their party they're engaging in corruption they're engaging in a disruption of ah

the democratic centralism concause you are not allowed to call yourself the communist party collect funds from the communist party

and tap into the resources of the central party rock creating your own arbitrary fucking dictatorship so yeah reviginia communist party you are going to deal with my fucking supporters you are going to engage with my fucking supporters my supporters are going to follow the rules they're going to follow all the rules of democratic centralism just like you have to you fk on the communist parties virginia c p sa you can own that shit you falk and on that shit

you don't fuck and on that shit you're not a feudal lord you don't know the communist party it's our communist party too and i'm going to send my fucking people

i'm going to send my people to join

salcom your supporters are sending me

what the fuck are you talking about i onlys taw my supporters to stay away from fucking people like you so they're not my supporters because they're not fucking listening to me then

and salcm your fucking friends are harassing the shit out of me

virginia infrared viewers

virginia members of the guerrilla army

join in the virginia communist party

bas

thank you jen

hey but they aren't dmming you loot edit

actually they are on both instagram

and on fucking twitter i get a bunch of fuck and porn thrown at me

so yah they are

show me i'm not going to fuck and show you what you mean show me

i block them and deleted immediately

you know there's an account that was pretending to be me that was sending luna nasty shit in her replies

i think it's a false flag she could have even done that herself just to make me look bad

i have proof

yeah sellc because i fuking block them and delete it immediately

i don't go run to fuck and bluna oil

or you know destiny or whoever else is sending me this shit

to complain

in salkom

why do you why don't you stop harassing the shit out of me if you're getting negative attention because you're constantly bothering me

you know like

what do you want me to do i tell my supporters to stay away from you if you we out of your fucking way to antagonize people

i'm my supporters

don't do that shit because if they're doing it they're not my supporters

because i tell i

those people are not allowed to do that shit

and also on

you know

listen

virgin raid adriana lee why the fulk would i raid someone i'm literally have like

we haven't even started the fucking stream

ok anyway

you guys need to understand something

the communist party does not belong to these people so here is the agenda

who's the agenda we're going off of

we're going to send a message to the virginia communist party

because they're trying to make a public spectacle of it

so let this be the first

implementation of cpu

usa twenty thirty six

if we can do this

then c p u s a twenty thirty six

is on the roll

infrareid viewers of virginia

join the virginia communist party

in mass numbers

and vote down land back

no land back

we are not going to make land back a part of the communist party program

no more virtue signalers no alter leftist no more people against patriotism we're going to make the virginia communist party a patriotic party that's against land back is pro land reform

that's what we're going to do

we're not going to let them turn it into an ultra left party

we're not going to let them turn it into a fuck and ultra left

party

we're not going to let them turn into an alsoleate party if you're not in virginia you can set up your own local shit

and we'll do it like that

where's the leftism today i have no idea

i've no idea

he's not in come on show request

i've no idea i'm waiting for

i'm waiting for im

i wanted to do halloween shit today but i got more drama that's ok

guys i was losing sleep

for all the fuckin smears and lies being spread

that i slept last night thankfully

but

yet it's so disgusting it's literally so disgusting

i'm also going to critique something

i'm going to critique some aesthetics

yeay i'm a streamer i can say whatever the fuck i want okay

i'm not a member of the party

i can just i'm not an authority

i can just say what i want

so the georgia c pu s a shared this photo

right they shared this photo

ok this is not what we need

i'm sorry optic's wise

why dod they communist party member look like this

what kind of optics is this

what kind of funcking opticses this shit

what

first of all is this what this is

this is what a member of the communist party looks like

compare that to what the

compare that to the old ship dude

look at the old shit

what happened

what the f happened

look at what they used to look like

the communist party

look at it this is a communist party

look how big this guys fucking arms are

look how big this guy's sok in arma

so we used to have this and now we have this

three are alcm

what helll is that

what the hell is that in

they didn't even have the decency to cover up the fucking the

he's behind

what the hell is that

this mother fucker looked like he's wearing a diaper

fhy ic a what the hella iss

remember that falkin hoyy four whatever that's called that poster i showed you that one was falkin batys ummy see if i can find that

this is what this is the aesthetic the c pusa needs to adopt

okay

i know it's from a video game whatever but it's still cool so i don't care

it still looks fucking cool as shit

ok i know it's from a video game

people were saying you sounded like lenin in your essay

yh

let me show you

this is what i'm talking about

this is what i'm talking about

i love what everyone was like

oh it's just a bunch of white dudes like this guy is not white at all

so i don'n know what the fuck you're talking about

but if you're mad about white people being featured in propaganda

why is this ok these are also two these these are both what

don't make it about race dude

if anything deeed this guy is even more white than this guy

parkingson like

oh did

the poster is evil because there's no there's no people of color even though the leading face is literally a man of color

right and there's a bunch of

people of color in this fucking crowd

or whatever write

maw you compare it to this

and this is literally just what two white guys but but no one better than i

no one bated ey at this

no one actually fuckined b you know why no one batted an eye at this

because it showed a weak soyboy male

with his ash sticken out

and

i'm what what what that static is this tou you need to show heroic

idealizations

oh but idealizations are unrealistic

w me unrealistic grouen walking cares

it looks better than just looks better

you know it's not you're not trying to take a fucking you want to be more realistic how but i just moon

take a picture of my ass my hairy disgusting ass and make that the poster i mean it's y realistic right it's very realistic i take a picture of my has and make that the picture of a communist party poster

yeah it's more realistic

but what people don't people don't want to see the bare ass of reality

people want to see your ideals people want to see your etiology

people want to see this

veneration of the people yeah it's not going to be directly realistic of course it's not

this is the best aesthetic

it's not realistic

per se

but who fuckon cares

look at this stude

is a better version of the poster in fact checking

oh yeah

is this really the aesthetic of the communist party usa

is this really what we're rolling with

so this is the american working class

i know they want to like not be sexist

can i say some shit i have i guess i have reactionary views you know guy in a sense i am

a conservative or whatever you want to know why i'm a fuckin conservative

beuse they did take it too f they are taking shit too f

they're taking cultural politics way too far and they're like oh back then you would have said the same thing no i wouldn't have cause there's a limit to this shit cause we're woman

you're taking us to a posuman age

we're going to become robots

but something

we do have a limit because we're pock and human

humans do have a limidude it's not endless progress and endless change of everything

we have a fuckin limit dude there's basic limits that we do have as fuckin human beings

you understand and

look i know culture and society changes

but

a strong man has always been strong man men have always been stronger than women

and every single society human society

man has been physically stronger than women man has been the active one

and women can get pregnant and there's exceptions and its fluctuations

but there is a traditional gender world that is constant across all human history

you don't have to enforce it

fkn g out of your way to defy it for no reason they're going out of their way to try and defy traditional gender les for no reason any in you have to understand they think that the optics of this is just

oh

we're going to defy the traditional generals but from a psychoanalysis perspective

a working man seess nre going to think

oh

this is a party of pussies of soyboy men

who need to be helped up by women

these people are trying to fantasize aboart

artificial

creation of humans

no more

sexual roles

no more pregnancy they're going to graze a kid in a pot just like indust training you know you've got to understand

you got to understand

maybe people don't conform to normal gender rules because that's how they feel

silas those people are falcking tiny minority they're like one or two percent

everyone else is conforming to normal rules

do stop going against the fucking majority if you're a communist for no fucking reason antagonizing the people

it's such a stupid selfish individualistic stupid bucking thing

it's such a selfish individualistic thing oh because you don't conform to the normal rules you're going to make the communist party poster

a cock being helped up

you know why

a man's duty is to protect women how about that

a man's duty is to protect women

i d med back

a man's duty is to protect a woman

this is the most stupid

you know what there's so much psychoanalytic truth to this fucking poster they're basically saying the greatest victims of injustice are soyboy males

soyboy white males by the way

guys

it's not people of color it's not women of color it's not

you know as sexual minorities and all this stuff this is who rules you

this is who rules you someone make an edit of this and make a

bill gates mark zuckerbergor jeff bazo's the face

and you just cracked the code of political correctness you just cracked the code of political correctness political correctness

is the rule absurding

it's the rule of soory

the mittens man hos is a virgin that's never even seen a vagina

oh guys hold on

i'm going to do the lunle oly thing

ah w

by being situately by holding the fealls

u i literally

i mean yeah i could have just ignored this and like

let it scroll by but waited to make myself a thinkm

mmhmm

was sexually harassing me oh

imagine a fou is like that

you know who you know who's supposed to be like that though

you know' supposed to be like that

this falkon guy would say that kind of shit

this guy would go stream and say that

and that's how they want us to be

they want you to be cocks they want you to be coks and guys

guys you know what

i've got to be honest with you

i'm kind of a toxic male aren't i i'm a toxic guy

i'm kind of a toxic guy right

i'm a toxic male

right

i'm going to tell you guys the truth

i literally get girls in my d ms

and i don't even fucking know why they're damning me i'm like

what you're daming me

why would you dre me i'm a nobody

and plus i thought i'm the bad guy if i'm the bad guy why are so many girls in m dms

if i'm the bad guy why so many girls interested in me

you ever noticed that

if i'm the bad guy why are so many of these women interested in me

show d ms re lies and i' literally get fucking band

dumb fog

you guys are being deceived dude you're make it they're trying to tell you that this is the guy that

you know women like women don't like this guy dude i promise you they don't like this guy

ok then don't believe me i'm not going to show you the fuck i'm not going to fucking leak d ms

so jt don't believe me

but ask anyone else every toxic man is the same shit

so called toxic man

a these comments on twitter and shit and yet

l visit the reality is very different

this is the most stupid ugly optics i've ever seen in my life

this is a horrific optics

come again

look how far we've devolved

this is how the communist party used to be

well back

well we were as guys you know what

we need to ditch the idea of progressive

linear time where like

well over time but look there's a as long as we're human there's a falking limit

where is the limit

i want to ask all the people who are like well as time went on we progress

so what's next pedophilia bestiality

i feel like every limit has already been crossed and those are the only ones left

bostan on twitch is analyzing your tweets and your position live right now

oh my god let me look it up

as the out

three for twenty tin

is an ad

we spoking insane

he's looking at the article

wh

he only has one hundred ten viewers i don't want to give him

give me more attention but let me just see what he's saying

own exhibitionist

i

he likes to take a lot of pictures of himself on twitter and

are generally kind of humiliating

see if i can find some of these

let's see here

i

is he talking about me because i posted one forocon photo on

buck and twitter

say that

not yes

he rea tweetd the article ladies and gentlemen reatweet the article

so peter ff always sung up peter ffin

established himself in the infrared camp

whi makes sense because everyone else on the left is abandoned

let's take a look here let me see if i

thats not true

and we also have secret supporters i'm not going to reveal them

but secretly more people support me than you'd think they just do it in private

i would say irrespective of his positions he's sort of an example

of the kind of he's showing like the nude photo of peter kffin where he's like wearing a

thing and i have to say peter coffin has a chad body he has the body of a fucking chad dad bod

yeah

the's jumped out like some kind of american dad care

but nevertheless

these are the characters here on the other side

all right

i'd say that of the end of them probably the most interesting

are probably i'd say the infrared is the most interesting the other folks seem a little bit more a

you know just kind of like your average america bad russia good kind of kind of stands but

and fred's a very interesting character

it's like it's interesting how they accuse us of being anti american when

i'm lially being attacked for being too pro american

you know it's so weird

sure why this is such a controversial point

i

you know again you folks know i

anti communist i think it's all a disaster

one of the most miserable

ideology st

to crawl its way of the twentieth century but if you're going to be a communist

it seems like

you'd want to be a patriot

right

because again this is what the russian communst yeah you're right jesus did

and indeed

this seems to be then he's right the fuck

the american workers should do

me see here if i can find this

right here he wrote a letter to the american workers in one nine hundred eighteen

so you wave your bread i gotta say

guys get the fock out of his chat

i'm not showing it on screen for a reason

get the fuck out of his chat are you getting banned will you be bred

you're going to fuck and get in trouble i the terrible you're in trouble

get the boock out of his chact

i'm literally not showing it so you guys don't fuck and brigade brigade his shit

i accepted this proposal let's see a russian bolshevik who took part in on the nine hundred and five revolution

has offered to convey my letter he is looking your stream right now well

let me know what he thinks

has offered to convey my letter you have accept his proposal more glad ben the mittens man i were beanding that fucking snitch

ban the midens

man

itch you're getting bad

buk and snitch

noway's going to be self conscientious and not going to be truthful

see what fuckin happens that guy fuckin ruined our content by the way

it's different from your average lucky

grauch lefty's definition seems to be imperialism

when america does something

the more america doesn' it the more imperialistic it is

lennon acknowledges first of all that other

countries

and be involved in this process

it's not some uniquely american thing

and it's important to remember that even in one thousand nine hundred eighty united states is already a massive force in

world affairs

bits man yeah i get the message you don't have to repeat it

so he talks about

the american multi millionaires

these modern slave owners who uses a lot of the same rhetor which of course i reject but but that radic lt his agenda thank you so much appreciate you shud your tnme to thank you

i wish i could kis you

sorry i'

i don't know if you're a woman or a guy if you're a guy i

stand if you're a woman i'm so sorry butbout i literally don't know what dender you are

that's that would be considered

beping

sorry

it's a w

no its fuckiner

no it's not

no it's not

it's literally not

knowo falcon isn't

let me see if you're lying you're getting bad hold on

oh my god

radical leftist

agenda

okay

no it's

i can't tell

oh my god it is

oh she's jackson mod ok she i gt i hope she'll understand what i'm sorry about that

do what i'm getting i'm going to get cancelled again hopely shit

for some reason i thought it would be like i th the name sounds like could be like a guy

you like

where's a mao hat you know

british robbers who oppressed america and held her the whole country

in colonial slavery

and then he goes on

the american people

who set the world an example by waging a revolutionary war against feudal slavery now find themselves in the latest capitalist stage of wage slaver to a handful of multi millionaires and find themselves playing the role of hired thugs who for the benefit of wealthy scoundrels

throttled the philippines inusand einight hundred niny eight on the pretext of liberating them and our the it on the pretext of liberating them and are throttling the russian socialist republic

in oneteen on the pretext of protecting it from the germans

alas if only we'd succeeded in

i wish okay he's going to read my article i'm not going to police him

f those who eventually

brutalized so thoroughly

but

that's not what we're to talk about

we're talk abo b the bigger

social

patriots

and why it really isn't something

should be incompatible with you know any other form of patri

and socialists and we're going to have them

unfortunately

should be able to love their country as much as anyone else can indeed that seems like a healthy component of an ordinary human existence

so as you can see here let i agree with this guy he seems reasonable

he seems reasonable

as far as the idea that the united states and the american people have not only a history to be proud of

but something positive to offer to the world

and he describes the aberrations from that

as the doings of quote a handful of it's literally crazy how bastiat husin

he is an anti communist liberal or whatever

and he literally knows more about marxism and leninism than luno oil

that is just insane to me that is literally just insane

will developed

but while i would disagree with his claim that it was a war against fuels like even he's pointing out

that

like lennin is basically saying you should love your country and its history and that

american imperialism is an aberration

to the to what america is

you know

as a world historic event which i think

most reasonable people can agree that it was

and

he goes on

um

he talks about the american multimillionaires he does not talk about the united states as some gargantuan single entity

american bourgeois newspaper the american bourgeoisie

refuse wor do fock this guy's like

bast

s the american imperialist vultures

s a reference to the government

that's a little more common i suppose

but right here

this is another important point and this one i mean is really worth thinking about

this is something else that a lot of folks in the left and the thing that i enjoy about infrad even though i reject the stalinest nonsense

is that he is basically right

about your average

western left

i

the american people resorted these tactics long ago to the average of their to the advantage of the revolution talking about basically playing different countries off of one another

when they wage their great war of liberation against british oppressors and folks

i mean

you know you folks are aware of the sixteen nineteen project

right where where people describe the founding of this country

as something

specifically intended to perpetuate the practice of chattel slave

and while no one should deny the role of child slavery

in the founding of our republic and in our country's history

the idea that the country was founded specifically to preserve the institution is a historical in the extreme

you know i like this guy because everyone's attacking me right now and this guy's defending me so that's brave

i'll give him that that's pretty

he seems principle this guy seems principled honestly

seems like it's got principles you know

some the french and spanish oppressors who owned a part of what is now the united states in their arduous war for freedom

the american people also entered into agreements

with some oppressors against others for the purpose of weakening the oppressors and strengthening those who are fighting a revolutionary matner against oppression for the purpose of serving the interests of the oppressed

people

i mean

you know

ladimir lennin was the son of a bitch

who kill a lot of people

all right not base but we'll look past it

and simple argument

i thank you totally monday for subscribing i appreciate

mm

the american people took advantage of the strike between suys yeah i'm an anti communist but

how is haws wrong like what from what i've read he's right

this guy has no reason to agree with me right

it's in his ideological bias

to say that i'm against that communism and american patriotism are incompatible

but even he can't resist

prinning out

how wrong these leftis i'm fucking facing are

because they'd just oubjectively wrong

in spanish so not only

is lenin

talking up the american revolution

but i believe he's talking up the louisiana purchase as an attempt to

secure our freedom by paying a ransom

and i got to say i don't think i could come up

quit as thoroughly

as thoroughly well you know brilliant

the defense of america's westward expansion is that

thank you chris morlock

and his argument is fundamentally right

the oth the day the united states had to expand because if it didn't the european empires the dominated the world at the time would have tried to crush our freedom as indeed they tried multiple occasions to do

so yeah hundred percent

hundred percent we go back to in ference arg and that was a long diversion

but the point was this

daddy socialism mself

i mean the guy who did more i suppose to

welcome good

how come none of us pointed at that article by lenin out

guyes

optics ok go on twitter pointed out

will be shit

s on the bedch

doesn't mean you have to be a chauvinist about it and he clearly makes a distinction

you know when it comes to criticizing the behavior of a government

without

castigating the people as these irredeemable agents of imperialists

indeed he seems to go to great lengths to make apologies for them and this isn't a time in which m lenin

gauge in what i think

it would be fair to call imperialism i mean certainly by any standard set

for example the one nine hundred fifteen occupation of haiti

the interventions in central america

wars that even somebody like me

there are hard pressed

to defense

he can nevertheless still make the distinction

i think the philippines a little easier to defend but it the the conquest as opposed to the

the you

defending its independence from from japan

the conquest was

unnecessary brutal lennin literally said that the american westward expansion

was this stop spanish and french

and european empires from destroying the american republic

that's what lennin said

is lennon the wrong obinist

the king of the internet here who says trump twenty twenty four let's take a quickreak

two

to to share a key development here

in the twenty twenty four election

fox

a key development in the twenty twenty four they were going to stop bothering him

but

that's always curious but anyway guys

this poster is disgusting

i really

i just want to like go outside in a legal setting in like my own backyard

and the just make a poster of this and just burn it

i just want to throw this in i want to

make a bonfire or chillor on the bonfire and then make print this out and crumble it and just throw it in the buck and bonfire

i just want to throw this in a fucking bonfire this is the most disgusting photo i' have ever seen

and and w what ha what is this what is this

do not let injustice sadden you let it radicalize you what injustice is this

this is like the most soory thing emotionally this is soy

i feel like a bitch for looking at this photo

i literally feel like a bitch just looking at this like

wh focus

what is this

and why is he showing his ass

this is such like pussy shittu this is like for bait this is like

fussy shit

i just feel like theose people are always on the verge of tears all the time twenty four seven

come on guy i feeling bad maybe you see are good people but this is horrible optics

casees

look this is good optics

beautiful optics right here

beautiful optics are right here

these are beautiful ooptics

but anyway yeah this is with the communist party what is this shit huh

miss

and a sex tourus something like that this is what infrared has said specific o there i call them compete a sex pat

py

and then luna of course if you call me a sexpat and

that that's like my real the nature of my relationship with luna i don't

all that means is that you view her that way

and i didn't even call you a sex fat dude but your mate youre tempting me to call you one

but i didn't even do that

but

even if i did she has nothing to do with it it's all on you you fuck a loser

and

judging how you look and sound

you do seem like the type of fuckying loser that weh just travel abroad

so you'd be considered more interesting and exotic

think this is

this is the kind of thing where it's like the fortune

fascist i plausible deeniability dog whistling thing

because obviously the implication there is that luna is a sex object

right now

literally how you fucking dog sh you would be a dog shit lawyer non compete non compete

you would have bucken past the elsat

and not compete your fuckin pussy could you fuck and hide behind luna and make it seem like i'm victimizing luna when i'm talking to you you fucking pussy

so fark you

he's dog whistling don't bring luna into it i'm talking about you

say you ran away look i didn't call you a sexpat but here's what i want to say about non compete non compete

ran away from his own falcing country and sead of staying here and winning the fuking people

if you follow his example you're not a revolutionary

you're a loser

you run away from this country

and go to a foreign country

that doesn't need you

and that lun and i've been together for years were married

we live together i live here permanently i have a residence card you know

it's an it but

naw you were tweeting at luna oh it's this pussy belgian bolsfet why don't you get in my v c fucked pussy

m

doing my p c and i was tweeting at luna referring to non compete

so shut the fock up doesn't matter i was

responding to her tweet about american patriotism

has nothing to fking do with it

falking domak get in my v c you fking pussy

bokin

shrimp

tm

you tiny

cockroach

frook and mouse

i am screaming toen i was last night i wasn't screaming

chicken sh

see this is what luna oi does she makes herself seem vulnerable for no reason and

who fanatically rallies her fucking

followers

to defend loot her

as if she's like

this poor victim

it's the most pathetic fake focking thing i've ever seen

dan

prism just made a based picture

this is a way better fucking poster look at this based poster what the fuck is this

what does this shit

oh i can't show that cause that what does that say is that a que

f that's queing on i can't sew it unfortunately

is this a cool photo h maybe i can cover it up

and just

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and i just py this

yea

can just do this

re going to do this and then i'm going to show it you

what is this

well i don't know if that's a qe i don't endorse that but i do endorse this part

bte

bate

that's what i call based

good anyway

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that tob youer guys

october

look at

eternity and i'm not even defending myself i don't give a shit what you have to say about me yeah you are defending yourself you fuck and pussy

oh belgian bolshevi mad's unband belgian bolshevik in the discord he's going to come

he's going to come and v c on banoned

unbandoned from the discord he's coming in vc

un banded from the discord

banoned

we're going to interview this person belgian bolster we want to know everything about their life

we're going to interview them

unband in mass

he's coming into v c

where's leftism today hah

where's leftism today

is he in a bitch out

i hope leftism to day knows you're not getting another chance so this is your chance to debate me

you're not getting another one because i already debated you

you're not getting another chance

where' is leptism today

spontorr tweets he's a pussy

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post thisus on twitter

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he's talking about me on instagram you talking about me on instagram

for this one

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i got i got someone to say i got someon to says funny so let me see some apparently apparently apparently fellow traveler is going to make a video about me fellow coukler bello coupler but fellow coupler admitted to being a youth

on a certain website jason leftism today and fellow coukler are all users of a well known pedophile website i'm not even lying they are literally there like they're the ones posting that shit that weird shit on that website that has bucking pedos on it yeah so

there you go yeah that be showing instagram slander

she she was in thiss

you know fuck is this s let me see them who they arean instagram

oh they only have three key followers i don't g fuk

ping to st

sounds put a daily sub goal but you don't lose those subs quick no if i lose subs if i if i'm not full time

by next year then the infrareds over you know so it's as simple as that n no one's fault no one's fault no one's to blame but people want me they'll do what they got to do you know it's up to the viewers but i have kind of like a year you know but we're fine do this is a lot of subs it's a lot of subs

you talk about the evolution of common term view on fascism over the twenties and thirties he's in c ok he's in c

give me a second

k i have to hold on

and

let me just do something really quick

he was in this

oka you want to cae up

hello

what the hell is this

what is this

is this your debate

i think he's just shy

the fight

getings back

hello

don't be shy what have you got to say

what do you got to say

hello

what of fuck

he was talking earlier in b c

is he just pretending he has mike problems

he's nervous

becuse i remember this guy super nervous like last time he was scared

like he talks a lot of shit on his own stream but whenever he comes here he just like kind of sucks my dig you know

so

yes

okay

he just ran away

the way he used to look the way he used to act i guess you'll never know

wi took imside him so

he had a job to do

he had a brain a night

he had a nam so mine and only needs soll right

mendon ma expert

she did the next

thee mind they do

brolan to cambodie i'm not going to accept your friend request dude we do it here we don't do it at all

fix r shit

i'm not accepting your friend request i'm doing you a big favor of just letting you come on

ok well we're going to have belgian bolsevi come on first

we pussy

and

hello has

are you just sounding like a pussy or is your real utle voice

this your real voice want to come up

com'e up let's see how you work

oh so you're too scared ok

so what uh let refresh my memory on some of the names you've been calling me

yeah

so i'm assuming you get the tona pocei right

that

do you ok what kind of girls are you talking to

compared to me

really

like out of ten w would you write them

like two

what i think what i agree with you about that because you know like i actually have

real ast

sure

so you want to show us how you look

you don't have a cam but you can send me a picture ight

what's the picture in general

yeah in general just pos is how you look

yeah yeah

butu it in general

mmhm

what do you do for a living

okay

how old are you

how old are you

how old are you

you're twenty five just like me w oka so we can compare

yeah

so let's see what you look like

yeah

we're still waiting for the picture

gt show us something that's not bloody

so i can shol the stream

because it's not allowed

so show me something that's not bloody

no i can't show me something not bloody

ok so do you think you're good looking or bad looking

i mean i was beat up before that but i'm still pretty good looking

for being beat up by some cops

okay

i really wish i could show my streamess

but

you look like you're twelve years old

hey they can come to general they can all see you

yet you look like you're twelve years old did you know that

i mean this is a picture from when i was eighteen

so that's a few years ago so shows what you look like now you don't have any pictures of you now

i mean facebook is down right now so

so you have no pictures of yourself at all

i've got some ofre facebook p

the fokus sides tower right now

ok and you're saying the women you get are

seven out of ten eight out of ten

they're between six and a seven yeah

so we're talking more like two to four right

no that's not all between six and seven means

no i think it's meful i know you're american your education sh

syste yeah but i'm looking at you right now i can hear how you sound and i

you have nothing special going for you

you're not an interesting guy

i don't think you get six seven i think you get two to i not an absolute consl like you so

yeah

so

you think you have an easier time with women than me

i've never made a claim i don't know what kind of time you have with women

well i mean who do you think fares better in general

i've got no foking clu i've never seen you with women except that one time you were sentmping for in bites and that didn't go well

sure dinner

and um

w she come down on the plane or not

well you know it's none of your business that you know it doesn't know she did

so

it dot listen none of that is that none of he blos

whatever re onlt of

oh business so by the fook way you're streaming it

streaming water

like that's kind of weird

you shipping for you want me to bring her in the call

so she can tell you how she feels about it

i mean

i don't care

because it's none of your business right

it's none of anybody's business that's why it's weird that you were streaming it

yeah but

you you just watch streams you don't actually know anything

so for you to use it as an example is really weird

but anyway

so you think like

you can get more growt women than me

what i think is that your attacks on luna oi

were very unfair

and based on nothing

no they were basic youre they were based on the fact but your f belgian did belgian i literally debunked everything about le oil in my twelve thousand word essay

but in case you need to rehash

luno oi is pretending like her perspective is coming from vietnamese marxism leninism

when it's becing from american white anarchism and ultra leftists in america who's her audience who pad her bills who are fucking giving her her patriot songs and who are her fucking audience

you have zero proof of this you don't know really i have zero proo ok the majority of little ois patron money where did it come from what country

uh do you have proof for the countries they come from

yeah

forty five per cent of her viewership is the same as mine united states i'm a fucking american and i focus on america i don't pretend to be a foreigner and we have the same proportion of americans in our fucking audice you showed this evidence

can you show it a what

that

the audience is forty five percent same yeh she se twtd herself some kind of statistic she tweeted it herself

ok but look at her tweet she tweeted herself that i'm so glad i have so many international people in my audience

and she has just as much as me doot

she tweets like a thousand times a day

but right she does howm i so le ask you a question since you're here to defend luna you're going to defend her in every respect right

so lunar of sis comments ho on n no

luna sees comments on wh luna ses comment set up lunaces comments and tweeeds

that have zero likes not zero engagement mep

she has zero comments zero engagement zero likes

and she takes this comment and feigns outrage and sympathy on twitter is that what an adult does

i don't care about you don't care so why was my attack onun fair i think

i think you're sexist

why my sex we

why my sexist explain baseless and i nothing to do with marxism so so hold on you got to back up everything

for the kind of

boyfriend or husband shes like is that why i was critique martha

you certainly brought it into the debate didn't you

what did what exactly did i bring into the debate

oh we've all seen the deleted treetsmn

there's one deleted tweet you into the debate there was one deleted tweet that was being mass recorded

so that's the only reason i delet it otherwise i'd take nothing back

what was i responding to luna saying in that tweet what did she say first

i have no idea you don't know so you don't understand the context and yet you decided to agree with a bunch of false narratives that rero on about me no matter no matter the context what you said was horrible you but if you don't know the context you can't you don't know that you don't know the context

there is no comtext but that's not true that's not true there's plenty of context that would justify that

so if you don't know the context your

so belgian boast of it are you are you a marxist becuse you said i'm a false marxist right

but marxist learn ok what did marx have to say about criticism and the importance of critical thinking

meaning you don't just accept everything you see

you have to have a critical stance toward everything what did he say

what was the word marx used

honestly

i don't know

you don't know atually wan't like get quotes from the top of my head no there's a very well known

phrase marks used

look at the chat maybe the chat will get it for you

it's called a ruthless criticism of all things

i mean i've only got people asking me if i've got

if i'm able to speak french which i'm not able to do that no one cares belgian belgian

you literally hopped on a twitter bandwagon cancellation trend without even investigating what fucking happened

you should be ashamed i saw your car you should be ashamed of yourself you

you know ok so so hold on fact so do you consider these people reing be consider these people your community like you're friends with them and you're all like

you know close with each other and you're you're united by youroking nobody opposition f chef

yeah

youre luno oi viewer right nh no i'm not are you a luno oayviewer

n

no

so you're saying my you're saying my critique of luna oi was sexist

for reasons unknown and that it was unfair for reasons unknown you want to elaborate

no

your words were focking sexist you were attacking her

as a woman

no i was eating a no i wasn't

okay so in case anyone needs to know the context since you have to bring it up

luna is the one who brought up women of color

she was using identity politics against me

i was merely pointing out that if you're going to pretend like you're fighting the white man and you hate the white man and then i'm apologizing for white men

but it's really hypocritical that you're married to one

is that hypocritical or not except she didn't

she didn't attack white men yes she did she was using identity politics so saying no woman of color will ever trust this creep again coutry she said cause that simple stand for murder

genocide and war crimes

ok then why ok w wait the symbol stands for murder genocide and war crimes

yeah

because all you think it does in vietnam but on does it stand for that in vietnam

yes sure

you have any okay so are you aware of the data you want to hear the data on that

i's ok we all learn things

in

twenty

fifteen

seventy six percent of vietnamese have a favorable view of the u s

in twenty seventeen that goes up to eighty four percent aerican people

no of the us as a country as a country

oh

ho china vietnam considers china

the greatest threat

according to the survey

ninety percent of the vietnamese see china's growing military as a bad thing

eighty percent of vietnamese see china's rise as threatening in the asia pacific region

and spout sixty four percent said china's economic growth was bad for vietnam

yeah

and you know what this is called it's called real politics

thank

we have to

ally with some horrible fucking disgusting people sometimes

to defeat the greater enemy

so the issue just a flag hold on hold on so the issue just the flag then the issue just the flag

yeat that's what she was talking about you want to look on my scm right now

is anyone forcing them to wave these flags

people are tolling about king leopold that i don't give a folk well on whyn't you check on my stream who forced these people to wave these flags

they don't really look like they're being coerced doesn't people

doing that in any country

but you're saying this flag stands for fig

could they do this for the nazi flag

in vietnam probably in germany no

but so the nazi flag stands for genocide in germany right so you can't fly it

that's what lunle alway said but luntle always said the american flag is just like the nazi flag it etnam laws on freedo be done but luna always said the u s flag has the same connotations as the nazi flag

but why are vietnamese children waiting isl smiling you're bll still people i these crisis actors are these crisis actorals for

are these actors it's like fake photos

let me ask you a different question has no no no no we're staying on you know belgian belgi you're not going to wem your way out of us it's you you said that in vietnam the flag stands for genocide didn't you

sure

why are all these vietnamese people waving the flag smiling and laughing

happily because you will find kulax every country wait wait

so these children are kulaks these are young pioneers their official

like therere these are state institutions

students these are not like lone individuals

are you calling all of these people so she's a cokolock in your view

and this guy's a lock and this young boys a coolock and this young girl's a coolock

all of these children are cokulocks and

this guy's a koolok and all these people are kooloks right

well

personally i think the children have been try and stop

for diplomatic reasons

to welcome

the u s for diplomatic reasons to make diplomatic relations easier and then you've got the adults

walkulaxs yeah

oh the adults are koloks the children are safe and they're being tranced up

by the government for diplomatic reasons even be being used fortic reasons propaganda so for diplomatic reasons you wave a flag that stands for genocide

yeah have you ever heard of real politics

but real politic doesn't mean you have to wave the flag of a genocidal flag

no it means you have to welcome the usa appease them in some ways

so they don't fucking blockade you like they do cuba so you're saying and if you're saying if these children did not waive these flags vietnam would be blockaded by the u s

i'm saying

that they have to appease

the us in some ways to avoid blockade yes but but you're saying that when do you so they have to do this to avoid being what theated but the

when the uus sr fel they did have to appease

ah

the s you're not answering my question do they have to waive the genocidal flag to appease the u s

yeah

why because they want to us as anothe against china

so you're saying that children have to waive this flag or the uus going to say we're going to blockade vietnam

they might say oh well we won't support you against china anymore

why wouldn't they

it's in every interest of the uus to support vietnam against china do you think vietnam has to beg on do you think vietnam has to beg the u s to support it against china who's a bigger threat vietnam or china the u

i think

we have to be polite in some way to do us yeah but you didn't answer my question the don't

i didn't answer my question who's the bigger threat to the uus china or vietnam

to do us yeah

china

so why does vietnam need to beg the u s to back it up against china

when it's in china it's us is is interest already to do everything it can

to fight china

because if

if vietnam is openly hostile to s they will never

help them

why would why is that u s would draw to sit back and why would the u s care about what the children of vietnam flags are waving that all the u s cares about is that vietnam is going to go against china

and to help you know the american military collaborate

so belgian if so hod belgian

if vietnam is openly hostile to the u s uus might think oh

hostile to us the my thunch ok so are do egyptian children in egypt

do they wave israeli flags

i have no fucking through what happens in no you'd be beheaded by the people if you did that

so

i'm not saying i support that but that's just the truth

so

i do support a

o set up wen know we know don't be edgy here we're not being edgy here

now

i'm not paying at just shut up shut up drop the subject drop it

fuck and dummess

so

egypt in the israeli governments well why on hod on but isral but hecae not on a falking platform such a falcking mouth

egypt an israel

do they collaborate

i don't see how that's relevant to the

vietnam

well it's relevant because

israel's willing to work with egypt despite the egyptian people hating israel so why wouldn't the u s work with vietnam

despite the vietnamese people hating

the us

it's still real politic why do they have to wave the flags of a genocidal flag

would you work with somebody that's openly hostile towards you

israel works with egypt just fine

bork

you personally would you work with somebody that's openly hostyle with you

that openly hates you

are you saying states and individuals are the same thing

no of course not

i'm trying yeah i can explain the difference if you want and the difference in this case would be that the state oh i know the's a fucking difference belgian belgian i know you're a fucking idiot so bear with me the state

n i don't work it shut up i s

o you have to be uted that's ok you can't help yourself i all just far week a power yeah yeah i'll mut you that's ok no one can hear you

so

the state will work with you

okay

but the children aren't waving their flags

okay

so you're making it seem like they're one in the same thing but they're not

children cannot wave your flags and the vietnamese state can still

not be hostile to you in practice

but when it comes to individuals you can't divide an individual like that like

a state represents people

and an individual's just

one person

so i can't be openly hostile and work with you because i'm this i'm embodied in the same subject

whereas a state can work with you in its official capacity or unofficial capacity

while openly being against you

because it's not just one person

so i'll and meet you now

duff

or you were you talking through that whole thing because you were i muted i was just explaining to you so i hope you got the point

like i could i was beauted i'm not focking retard

i could tell i was ammute

ok now

but if you're a far weaker power

you have to appease the more powerful powers

that's not true vietnam just geo politically that's not vietnam

vietnam appiaces both china

and the us

they're playing both sides

you want to know why you're wrong

but

and you can get any

anyboy so in it so belgian in a debate belg in a debate when you're when your opponent is challenging your point and you're just continuing to talk that means you're scared to hear what i have to say you know that

not scared you were just i think you're terrified because i think you don't want to hear the fact

that in this case the leverage

is in vietnam's favoor because the u s sees china as a greater threat so it's the u s

who has more of an interest to appease vietnam

into siding with it against china but the u s doesn't need vietnam that's different but w does need vietnam it needs all entirely

highly centered on vietnam is one of the major countries that are disputing with china over the south china sea of course the u s needs vietnam

the us absolutely needs vietnam

so you just make admit or stupid to just disagree on that

so you don't think the u s needs so the u s doesn't need vietnam at all

in its confrontation with china

but vietnam is a nice to have

it's not necessary it's not vital

and that's why

vietnam s to

play nice wait you e so let's say vietnam

started to work with china at the expense of the u s

yeh you

you do realize

the usa forced economic reforms on vietnam because they threatened to blockade

that actually did blockade it from

until these befoms n know they didn't force

a them to reform

no don't

they did after that wasn't the only reason they lifted the blockades vietnam vietnam by its own volition pursued market reforms

and then the blok o y difficult nothing to do with the blockde

ok shore man

the u s doesn't care

if you're going to pursue an inferior path to development which was

vietnam state planning was an inferior py wait wait you think socialism

is an inferior path to development

than capitalism

so you're a nst so are you denying vietnam a socialist because they call it a socialist market economy

they liberalized

the economy agao they didn't liberalize anything they just have a socialist market economy

see this is what happens when you listen to luna oil who's not a vietnamese marxist leninist and is teaching people that vietnam is capitalist when it's not

vietnam sorry

luna oi doesn't teach people that vietnamese capitalist

so you disagree with o alwaysn

i

if you watch her video she adamantly says

that vietnamese socialist

so you disagree with on of what you just called the capitalist so which one is it

i set the oud some minor capitalist reforms which doesn't make the entire country

or regime capitalist no how could you make

capitalist reforms while not being capitalist

because you can make liberalizing moves towards capitalism without going

into capitalism itself

but you just said they left socialism

i didn't say that

you you accuse me of saying socialism was an inferior path to development but if vietnam is still socialist why would you have said that

well you said

the corn puff was

inferior

that co i said the b haassm was inferior

don't

pack butter pat puff

was an inferior path of development both paths of development are socialist

so the socialist paff they were on was inferior

to the current socialist pathre on yes it was

so you think a more liberalized almost capitalist but they don't use that language they just say it's a socialist market economy they don't say it's a liberal or capitalist economy

ok so so you're a market socialist andn

no

you're just saying

market socialism

is superior

vietnam's system of socialist market economy is superior to their previous path of development objectively it is

so you're a market socialist

no because a

that

no that's not necessarily true at all

i think you're just stupid

you think you're stupid

for smart

i think your stupid

but you're but you don't understand logic

can you i'm going to render it into like a mathematical just yaa

so than a centrally planned one

then the centrally planned economy vietnam had before its reforms yeah

does that mean i think a'm socialist market economy is the best int

wait but you're making it seem like but logically speaking you can't justify the claim that i'm saying

i'm a socialist i'm a market socialist just because i think

market socialism or whatever that vietnam has was better than the thing before

that's like saying that you're a capital

ho on what's better capitalism or feudalism

that's a known secretar wait just answer the question

that's a non secretary are you a reactionary feudalistianism

which one is better capitalism if you do know on talking about you

which one answer the question which one is better capitalism or feutalism

capitalism

logically speaking you're a capitalist but that's not

by your own logic your capitalist not

yeah your capital is similar to this

yeah it is were discussing your capal don't get angry boys we get angry a little boy don't get angry little boy don't get angry

you're a capitalist

we're discussing so you just admitted you're a capital you s youre capitalist guys he just admitted he's a capitalist i can't believe us he just admitted he's a capitalist

belgian bolshevik is a capitalist it's unbelievable

you actually just admitted your capitalis by your own logic

how are you going to recover from this you're literally a capitalist you just admitted it

it's unbelievable he just admitted he's a capitalist guys by his own logic

with you know i'm so you're capitalist thing you're capitalist you guyss a capitalist belgianm bos maks a capitalist

it's unbelievable we got to we got to change his name to on hold on we go we got to we got to make sure that we got to make sure that it's very it's very clear belgian bosvi is a capitalist there you go belgian capitalist a coward afraid ofing mk what's your question

what's your question

yeah

do you prefer market socialism or centrally planned socialism

in vietnam's context the socialist market economy is better

no no no no no

true

okay so you

in favor of market socialism that

yeah in the vietnams context the social market economy is better

well

you're a market socialist and nice

we then you're a capitalist

well the you're a capitalist

no i'm in favor of planned economy

no but logically since you're saying that in some context capitalism can be better than something else

you think capitalism is the ultimate system

yes when you're discussing feudalism and capitals so you are capitalist do you think capitalism is the olti market system

ah fuck of guy

yeah you do you think capitalism is the ultimate system

unless unless you're just saying it's better than feudalism

and that there's a better system than capitalism but that's not possible according to you right

no

you're talking about lesser developments of humanity which are far in the past

yeah i think that the stage of socialist planning for vietnam and other countries was a lesser stage of development of socialism

did i say the socialist market economy or

markets are the ultimate stage

or did i say that they're just a higher stage than what was before

a market economy is not a higher stage than a centrally planned one

yeah it is actually vietnam and china and the soviet union's centrally planned economy was just a form of primitive accumulation

it was not

in advanced stage of socialism it was a primitive stage of socialism

this is revisionism they reqress

they regnorsed backwards

so you're living in belgium right now right

yeah

the incredible irony is here we have a belgian claiming the chinese already ho beautiful irony is you have a belgian living in an advanced capitalist country

saying that when tens of millions and in china's cases

hundreds of millions of people are being lifted out of poverty cities are be so much economic development is happening but according to the belgian they wegressed

because they were they wegressed on his dogmatic principles right

yeah

they regrets they should go back to poverty even better

data done even better if that well what gup do you have of that what proof do you have of that

that's my opinion

based on what

marxism means you have a scientific view so what's your opinion based of

based on the massive advancements mayll made

in his country

but those exprandments were compared to a semilaw

a masser advancements cu were made

the massive advancements

vietnam made all into century

planned economies

uh capital sorry don ya

all those advancements were over the prior semi feudial mode of production

only

it says nothing about whether they would have been able to develop into modern economies

and you have nothing

to counteract up because you have nothing to say there well i'm going to go ahead and trust that the people in hower a only it's only it's only outside

pray cae down little boics to little boy little boy cale down

and you take a breather and calm down it's outside

outside precious like yeah belgian yous oklsan belgianm fll them

to liberalize

i've never been comon i know no one forced them to liberalize it was better for their country to introduce those reforms and they're not going tos bok located by the us saying we have to do this isn't force

that that wasn't the premise of the u s blockade

yes it was

ok we'll look it up u s blockade of china i mean i vieta

thank you moreo of it appciate you

well

was lifted in one nine hunenred ninet four so vietnam

market reforms were in initiated in one nine hundred eighty six

so vietnam initiated its market reforms in one nine heenred eighty six and the u s lifted its blockade in one thousand nine hundred four why did they wait ten years

or why did they wait uh eight years

nw i don't know

they wanted to kick them in the back once more

oh

what

but

wait hold on

they initiated their youar saying that

they made the blockade conditional

upon the reforms

but the reforms were in eighty six eight years laters when they initiated diplomatic relations and lifted the blockade

yeh because they want to make sure that they kept the reforms

perfect

so they had to wait eight years

you sound stupid or smart which one

smart as folk mad

you really think you look smart

yeah

but you said that the only reason vietnam pursued its reforms was because it was forced to by the u s blockade

exactly but eight years later is when the blockade was lifted

o

yes and

so why wasn't the blog game lifted when they initiated the reforms because they were waiting for eight years to see if they would revert back

yeah because there

the us was since you since you know that since you know that

the want to torture them a little bit more

and make sure that they stay that way well why for eight years why not ten why not why why if you know that right then why was it eight years why it's su an arbitrary number why not ten or six or whatever

the usa is an arbitrary state why

why and why does the s just want to torture vietnam for no reason

w

because the usa is evil oh ok just because there is that a marxist analysis

the marxist hoow hel that would the us is evil

tortured them

is is belgium evil what about belgium

no to my knowledge

so king leopold was a good guy

i man what he did in congo wasn't related to the belgian state

why not

because the belgian state wasn't involved in that project

they were actually opposed to it

so he's the king so what's a king is a king what's a king

i mean

the queen of england is also the queen of canada

yeah ian one what one state related to what the head of the state

like they they work independently from each other you do that still the head of state of belgium is the king

yeah ok and

so belgium has no culpability in the actions of its own king

no

he acted as a private individual as a capitalist

black

but he was the femal welgerly the first

the first and only

anarcho capitalist state in the history of the world but he was a belgian

head of state

yeah and he acted as a private capitalist

but the whole belgianm state participated in what he did

no it didn't

ya i did

no it is not ok where did the king of belgium get his money from

to do that

y

i got it from england

so belgium had nothing to do with it the belgian state had nothing to do with the congo free state

indeed

about state on nothing to do with congo

really

yep

you think its on smarters no until they took it away from the

this is basic fact everybody so you're denying the

belgian genocide against the congo you're a genocide denial

no uh leopold at the ca genocide ya

where did belgium where did king leopold get his money he got it from england

yup

because the belgian royalty was actually a imposed on this

after our revolution

but belgian intelligence belgian military and beildian industrial forces all participated in the ca colonization of the congo

as private capitalist ya

what you mean ve to so lok to golgian intelligence and belgian military are private capitalists

the belgian state and nothing to do with it

the belgian military had nothing to do with it

no the belgian military wasn

no it wasn't king leopold hie private mercenaries

andly works with

different capitalists and industrialists

to conquer congo

yeah but fact ill self

factually it is

show me

wordout the belgiust state collaborated with this

colonials project

like we took it away from the king and i think

nineteen o nine

that's when the belgian state got involved but before that

we weren't involved

uh are you sure about that

yeah i'm sure but i

i think it's nineteen nine i might be

a bit off on the date but not by far

it's nineteen o eight

so belgium was actually involved

in the congre free state no yeah

not until we took it away from the king no no in one thousand nine belgium annexed it

okay

but he was still getting his money his funds belgian intelligence and the military

or the congo frees state

his military was a bunch of private mercenaries no it was also the belgian military a few of them

a few of them were hired in belgium

but they weren't the belgian military no

so were the british responsible for what was done by the east india company

yes because the east india company had the full support of the british state

which is very different but it was the private how coming the cong didn't have

that he also had the full support of the belgian state

no it didn't the belgian state was actually opposed to

king leopold's project

this is why you read synonymously

why i went to germany and it's the u k and germany that gave him this colony not belgium

that's not true

no that is true

kingle hat a conference with the u k and germany and france

and it's those countries that gave him his a

ca is this what you learned belgium school system to wash the hands of belgium in such a crime

it was just the king's fault and rising the belgian governments

this is fact my friend

it's not a fact you're distorting history in lye

okay then prove me wrong

i think the burden of proof is on you to prove that the belgian state was not in

mm no that's

throw the other way ryan buddy

where did the first publely come from

the private army

of the congo free states

the first public

yeah

they were privatesmssen thaty force where where were theyr coming from a where were they recruited from

all around the world there were britch people the were in the mals in the main majority of them

belgium sure

yeah that's what i thought

but but it wasn't the belgian army

ok it was just that the king of belgium the head of state

book people from the army of belgium and did the same thing

amen

if you offer a soldier

a better

salary as a mercenary is going to take it

but the belgian state wasn't involved the that

was king leopold the head of state of belgium yesterday

sure ok so his actions reflect upon the belgian state don't they

no they don't why not he's the head of in congo

but he's the head of don't gock

you acted separately from belgium

but he is the kind ofing of bel to who's the house head of state that

of belgium king leopols

okay

uh give me a moment

i

if you're a c e o of a company

and in your free time

you fox somebody

in in an extra legal way

that that's nothing to do with the company is it no that's something you do in your free time

without the backing of the company

but he's the head of state

of the country of belgium yes was i think i think you're getting close

so let's walk it back through who is king leopol is head of state of belgium

yup and who was the congo free state founded by leopold second and is he the head of state of belgium y

and you don't see the concerter have nothing to do with the but you don't see the issue nothing to do and you don't see any consradictation or problem with what you just said if you're a c e o of one company you can set up another country a company without the companies affecting each other you do realize that but the

difference is that a c e o is not just a c jing leopold is the king of belgium he's not he's not his g and he was born into it and he's the head of state of belgium he was forced onmost by but the brits by the way we didn't want the king but britain forced

an english royal that we did who gave king leopold the money who gave ing leopold the money to set up the congress fes britain are you sure it's britain just to be clear you hundred percent positive because you're positive on the royalty of belgium ok british

royalty that's what de wls came from right

but on national geographic it says that leopold financed development with money loaned to him from the belgian government

not the british

that's only a small part of the money he had

what proportion of the majority of leopol yet you have numbers and statistics or sources to back that claim up so i have a source here jory you manypol came from britain can you back that up with a source because it was a british bl you have a source to back that up

no

so i should play to sol scape because we can do so i should just take your word for it right yeah why not you feel stupid or smart right now

have you ever heard of the bird in conference my friend

ha do you feel stupid or smart

do you know about the berlin conference this is how

leopold obtained congo

this was a conference geopolitically and i mt that might have been how you obtained youo politically but you would

yeah the berlin conference was about the gviding africa to give it

belgium wasn't even involved in that call they gave it to him geopolitically that doesn't mean they were the ones funding him

i think you're just stupid and that's the issue here

so let's go back to the flag since you just lost on and you really care recover

no no no no no no

ok wanty them welgium loaned a little bit of money

yeah the fact that belgium loaned a little bit of money to the king

does mean that the belgian state was involved with impedializing congo

but the beldian government is what gave him the money to do it

he's the head of state

if i loan you ten dollars and you buy a nifeing you step somebody so you're basically saying that if i was born in that time i could have gotten money from the belgian government to set up my own state

just like he did anybody could get a low from the belt ah so him being the king had nothing to do with it

you think

another private capitalist couldn't get a loan from the belgian

government that he was the only person in belgium to have a get a loan

is that what you think

but wait

why di didn't why didn't they give loans to other private capitalists why only the king

a diight

they did

do like if you wanted to set up a

fine in belgium but not if you wanted to set up a state

not if you wanted to set up a state

what does the matter

well it matters because king leopold was able to create the congo free state

ot capitalist

keep screaming keep screaming because he was that the berlin conference and geopolitically he was legitimated

as a head of state

a private capitalist would not have been invited to the berlin conference

because king leopold that they had upstate the belgium

he's the king

a private capitalist can't just go to the berlin conference and divide up africa with them

it wasn't with the backing of the belgian state

ok

but

you just admitted that king leopold was the head of state

yes so

a head of state is able to act on their own you do know that right

with the funding from the belgian government

a head of state

doesn't have to ask permission

for everything they do

i think they have to ask permission to get loans though right

sure

and any private capitalist is able to obtain a loan

so how many private capitalists set up the congo state similar to the congo free state

in fact leopold works with

a lot of private companies around the world to set up congo

and a lot of them got

you're actually honoring my question you i asked you how many other private individuals

but set up their own state in the congo not

private capitals wh were going to invest in king leopold's free state

but other private capitaliss setting up states

i don't see how that's so important

i think it's important because

him being the head of state is the decisive thing that allowed him to do it

okay so we had a pri privileged position whatever

as a head of city having a privileged position

which means the belgian state and was indeed responsible acces to what

no

well if the belgian government was against it why did they lend him money

the belgian state

didn't want to support it itself

but they gave him the money to do it

they didn't give it

they loaned on down boy come down the bank on down

they did give it to hm foking come why do you fock

keep saying that they did because you have to calm down the lodan

you' getting angry you wning is not giving

money

but why would they abele his actions by loaning it to him if they don't want to happen

they're enabling his actions aren't they

they're not directly supporting the actions are they

they're not sending over to i think if you don't want him to do something you shouldn't know him i want to you do it

what is the source for this loan anyway i want to learn more about it

yeah and this is your own country by the way

um

belgian king is national geographic

so

he established the congo free state

rather than control the congo as a alany as other privatey ow the legion leopold finance development projects with money loaned to him from the belgian government why would they loan that to him

why not is a private capitalist andy private capitalist that you said the belgian government didn't want it

yes and that's why the belgian government itself didn't impairallize congo

they just did it through the head of state of belgium

well became the head of state did it themselves

ya as the head of state

like the head of state

previously

asked for direct help

asked for direct troops

direct money

free

and the belgian state said no we don't want that

you're not getting our troops you're not getting but they they still gave him money

you know that right they still

gave him loans

t i was stopping something did you say something

yap

so belgium is an innocent country it's just that the bad thing was the head of state of belgium

but belgium is not the ow no we did plenty of things

after we took the

but you said belgium is not e wl g

not at the moment no

is the european union evil

mm no

why not

i thinic nato is evil

why isn't the european union evil because i don't see

because european union

as an entity isn't flying drones and killing innocent people

yeah but it's still exploiting southern europe and africa

southern europe

sovanyora beg to join

wit you don't know that the e u is forcing these countries into being debt colonies that have to endlessly pay off loans to german banks

in your remarxis

mon is that's it

if they didn't want to join

they should have joined

n

you you're a marxist they're also free to leave alone are you actually a marxist

yeah

so vietnam was coerced into adopting a developmental system that strengthened its state

yeah butus yet southern europe wasn't e coerced into joining you

oh

so should they be grateful for german and belgian and french colonization of their country

i

it

can you say that again i wasn't playing a tishue

you're a marxist what did you say you have

do you think you're a social chuvinist

nop

but you're denying the exploitation of southern europe by german banks

and the e u

and saying that if they dodn't want that they shouldn't have joined

are workers exploited

or workers are definitely exploited yet who's forcing them

but these boys

who's forcing workers wll join

who's forcing these workers to get a job

capitalism

and capitalism didn't force soudn europe

if the bush were leaders of these soven your european countries

didn't want to become part of the eu

these bos you our leaders should have done that

like what about the people of these countries

they should have elected better leaders

so why can't workers just elect a better system

and capitalism

i guess the are a bunch of cooks

you're just not as smart as you right

ya exactly

so you think you're a good marxist

i am the best marxist in the history of the universe

i'm even better marxist than marx himself

wow this is embarrassing

this is embarrassing

are you crying a you yeah you kind of sound like you're sniffling are you crying n know

ma don't cry man don't cry

o i was stifling a lot don't cry they don't cry

i think you're crying

fine you can see you're a morxist leninist right

yeah

the e u doesn't exploit any countries right

the e u is a collection of nations and they all have

equal power

they do

yeah

so in a democracy everyone has equal power then right

smaller nations actually have a bigger voice in a democracy every citizen has equal power right

mm yap

okay

yes you're a good marxist

and so a worker has as much power as a capitalist

n in a capitalist system in a democracy a worker has capitalist democracy a worker has well i democracy

i'd say in a democracy there would be no capitalists

you say everyone every state in the eu is equal a germany does not have

the power so to speak germany and france are not the main powers who actually wield the real power it's all equally distributed right

like officially in the way that the e u works yeah what about in reality since you're more things

well this is such a thing as soft power which i was just about to know it's what about material power

does it does the economics matter is marx's

yeah

so economic not speaking used as a

yeah what are the economic powers that make the e u possible

thank

because they have a big economy the have no it's not because they have a go with that onage

it's because german banks

and french consumers are would keep the eu alive the european currency the euro

right

you know anything about any moding

you know anything about the actual mode of production are you just like

baking being a marxist

german banks why are these banks german to you

banks have no note it's literally no a you way shoild bing

is one of the banks imer for nw called deutsche bank

the usa calls itself a free country

just because you call yourself something doesn't mean it's true

so you're denying

you're denying deutsch a bank is a german bank

apparently

yeah

i guuss have no nationality guys by the way i want everone to know all those people on twitter attacking me this is

the guy who represents them

all the lunaoi people a's acking me this is like

this is a lunoi exactly

this is this is how much litle has educated her audience by the way ipm the so representative of all these people

yeah you're you actually represent

people who have been educated by lunai

i wish i could have been educated by luna oil

wow that would have been amazing

that's creepy i would like don to's i would get repy

why to get educated by real marxist from a marxist country that would be nice w't that

heaven are real marxis do real marxists say there's no difference between marxism and anarchism and it's just a miscommunication

sorry i was reading something what did you say

do real marxists advocate for anarchism

no

well she does

the fue

yeah

her husbands and uncles

i haven't seen

american

from a non marxist country called america

fine

and why is our problem

well you just called her a real marxis

yes and marxist allowed to marry americans yeah but are they allowed to espouse the views of anarchists while still being real marxist why have exposed

more um

when she literally advocated g anarchism and she said that marxism leninism is just a

transition to anarchism

to

well do you not think marxist lessnumism

is a transition to a stateless cluster society

yeah but she said anarchism is a a is a flat hier uh society devoid of any hierarchy

do you think the end gold is not one without hierarchy no i don't think that so in the stateless costless society that would still be lasses do you think classes are just hierarchical relations or are they more than that

but if you have a higherdarchal goal

the system

you're creating classes

so a captain of a ship is part of a class the captain class

yeah

so on if you're sailing a ship and you have a hierarchy of command

or if you're in a platoon with a hierarchy a militaryple

mm

laton

those are actually classes

mm ya

mm

i gn't believe he just admits it it's so bug andt stupid

this is a marxist

did you know that engles use the ship example as an example for why hierarchy and authority

is just a fact of life

no i didn't end up

how are you a marxist lenin actually so what makes you a marxist lenist you don't really know anything about marx or angles so what makes you a marxist leninist

i know

a lot about marx just haven't read angels himself

i

how are you a marxis so what so what makes you a marxist lendiness is that you just call yourself one and you read mark a sum of marx

no i've studied marx i've studied lenin

so why are you a marks currently in the process what makes you a marks lm i'm currently in the process

i'm currently in the process of reading the works of stald

what makes you a monxist leninist

what makes me and marxist lenist yt lenin had the perfect application of marxism

for the european perspective and a

way

we have to move forward to new york

why only from the european perspective

that's the one i live in i can't speak for the

other nations

so how what would be the application of lenin's ideas in your own country of belgium

wehle currently the marxist larnist party is a

is busy

building to you didn't answer my question can you answer my question what would be the application of lenon's id know of belgium

that you think are so good

i'm just explaining what we're doing

what are you doing what application of

ow what are you doing is explaining that

we're building dual power structures we have i was this

the working coifs

wait did lenin build a did lenin build dual power structures

i'm telling you what we're doing as a vang lenin build we will power structures yes or no

i'm telling you what we're doing is that come from lennon's ideals or not

it comes from

the idea of find godism yeah

so the idea of vanguardism comes from lenin

that's where i took it from are

but it doesn't come from london by the way

doesn't even come from russian marxism

ok

so what actually from lenin fli what ideas from lenin do you apply to belgium

does that lennon not advocate for a vanguard part

but that idea doesn't come from him

ok so what does lenin not advocate for that

but the idea doesn't come from him

so what ideas that i don't have what idea so why why why is bring lenin into ito why do you bring lenin into it

are you just stupid

what ideas actually originate from lendon that you think should apply to the european context

di d

of vanguart party which he espoused that doesn't originate with lenin what idea

so what

was he or not

a proponent of this idea

no he he was

every social democratic party

every social democratic party

that existed at the time

s an advocate for that

ok

which means you're not explaining why you have to bring lenin into it at all

what have you read by lenin

i've read state and revolution

and what was your takeaway from that book

i thought it was amazing

what was your takeaway

well what you mean b a takeaway we what was the lesson you learned from that that made you become a leninist

the lesson i learned

sorry i'm quite drunk right now it's

trying to think

and

im kind of stune locked i'm sorry

did you read it

now the truth

i did

you sure

i read it

so i read my three times actually

so you didn't learn anything from it

i learned a lot of it

what was the takeway you got from it

well my

my favor well

the part that most spoke to me i'll put it this way

the pot w he talks about the paris commune

and marx's experiences there

about how every

state official work that's

nothink but mark he's just ding marks ll marx talks about that

yeah

so how could that be her main takeaway from the statean revolution

i think that's the part the most spoke to me

i don't think you read it

well then

is that is that where you discovered that every state in the eu is equal

and there's no exploitation of southern europe

yes exactly

a leton actually said that in chapter two

every state in the european union is equal

you consider yourself a smart guy or a dumb guy

i consider myself a troll actually

is there your cope

you just strolling

a combination of trawling

but to cry

mm nope

you feel embarrassed right now

nope

would you say you feel smart

yup

i've just wasted

about an hour and a half of a fascists time

so i'm a fascist surely bullsit

how my fascist yes o dodu it you only havever talk about foking reactionary social positions

ju go ahad explain how makes you love as a focking muslim you love as a muslim you love as a p o c

so you can justify

your socially conservative positions

are socially conservative positions fascists

destinitely a part of it ya

was stalin afashes

no

what about his position wasn't socially conservative

stalin was a product of his time ore behind the times

what does that mean

that you have

positions that were popular maybe seventy years ago but today they're outdated but they're just as popular as they everywhere do except among the minority your you know they're just as modular as they ever were use sexuality yoh what be all fvery rigorus used specific your views of sex for example

on what prostitution your views on six prostitution yeah so because i oppose prostitution i'm behind the times what about the times makes prostitution different and better that i should accept it no because you degrade people who engage in this

when have i done that

i've watched your streams befoemn

sure when have i degraded the prostitutes

yeah

it's called women horse

just told them that theyre worth offing if they they

do prostitution

when did i say that

you said you jus you said that you disown your your daughter if she do anything like only frienms yeah i probably would but when did i call them whores and when did i uh

when that i call people woors and when di i say prostitutes are worthless you have a citation are you just making it previous

you have a citation or you are you just making it up

my citation is your previous dreams

what did that mean so we just should take your word for it that i said that

i mean we've all seen the streams here i think

but no one in the chat agrees that i ever said that

in for eight s u and thank you

so i should just trust you

and you know so why don't why why don't you just say that i said i support nazism

so you can make up whatever you want so i said why am i fascist you used to be like

well in a previous dream you said that you support nazis

right

you can just say that i'm not a layer

wait but you are a lie not you're saying you're saying things that are false you're saying

but you're lying about having seen it because it never happened

it did happen you're actually i'm saying it didn't have streams i'm saying it didn't happen so how are we going to

are we going to decide who is correct

guess we're just going to have to

agree to disagree

so you're a wire

oh you're a liar why can't you prove the claim you're making

oh i could prove it if i wanted to but i'm not going to scrip through

thirty hours of what the fuck you've ever done on the shadle he drinking a little more to cope through this i've actually wanted to go grab a bear but i've been talking to you so i'm a fashion down because i'm against prostitution and allegedly i made derogatory comments

against prostitutes but no one can seem to prove that the combination of all your folking conservative f w why is it that the times have suddenly made prostitution something that you have all you with the few denigrating people attacking so wy why is my conservatism reactionary according to the times what about the times is changed the stalin

position honest you could you could basically be a republican and be no difference yeah i'm asking you why just i'm is fred pa i'm asking you why i'm a fascist of all your social conservative views and your awfo tarianism

my authoritarianism

so jest

yeah

and you're fucking patriotism for a fascist state by the way

are you a for hold on are you a marxist leninist

yeah

so how am i an authoritarian and you're not oh i'm a fororitarian our marxist leninist state socially conservative i don't simp for the fascist imperialist state like you do

what about the there are actual marxist lendinistates that still exist are they socially conservative in some ways yh

not nearly as socially conservative as you are

so are their fascists though right

no

s they're authoritarian and socially conservative

so wait is prostitution encurged in marxist linist states is it acceptable

is the vietnamese state on one plus is the vietnamese state yes take it in context

you have to take it in what does that mean is you know what does that e mean

combined

with your simping

for the state that is

overtly fascist and imperialist

the united states is fascists

yeah

when have i simped for imperialism

when you sim for the american flag

so the american flag is inherently imperialist

a man

what's flying over all those hundreds and thousands of bases around china

around north korea around iran

that didn't it didn't answer my question is it inherently imperialist

what else does the flag represent

slavery

the british empire

so when the u s declared independence from the british empire

that was just slavery and imperialism and action

oh yeah it was just the fucking slave owners

declaring independence so they could have their own little bourgeois state and have a

but no marxist leninist in what history of the world agrees with you

marx didn't engles didn't lenin didn'ts stal and didn't andn mount didn't

they thought the american war of independence

was one of the most revolutionary and progressive historical moments in the history of the world they called it a bourgeois revolution mates just like the french revolution they didn't denigrate it they said that it was one of the most revolutionary progressive ca comparti feudist

compo compared to the british empire actually but compared to

compared to the british empire

ok

you're comparing a douch and a toird sandwich

like

but

so let's see what lennin's had to say about that

ah

yeah

let's go to wikipedia and find out

so

the american people have a revolutionary tradition which has been adopted by the best representatives of the american proletariat

who have repeatedly expressed their complete solidarity with uz bolsheviks

that tradition is the war of liberation against the british in the eighteenth century and the civil war in the nineteenth century

in some respects if we only take into consideration the destruction of some branches in

industry and national economy american eight eenre seventy and behind eight edred sixty

when anyone deny

the immense world historic and progressive revolutionari significant to the american civil war

yeah those are so did lennon call uh

the

is he's calling these tradition a revolutionary urd sandwich

is that what he's calling it

not literally no

so you're just wrong basically right

you do realize not every revolution

is inherently good right

i'm asking you what the marks as lenin as me was

mmhmm

was lennon a fascist

no certainly not why not

lenin was very socially observative

for his time it was quite progressive no he wasn't

in the context of the russian revolution he was extremely conservative he pushed back

on very popular trends that were circulating

such as the free love movement

he said free love is the

same thing as m

drinking from dirty tap water

that was used

basically saying

it's like being with people with a bunch of bodies

and how does that detract from the u s state currently being a fascist in perialist one

well lennin was socially conservative not just for his time is what i'm trying to say

yeah ok but how does that

detract from the usa

currently being a fascist imperialist states

i agree it's imperialist i don't know why it's fascist

but

you realize that you can be a patriot while being a revolutionary defeatist id call

called a hyper nationalism

the the

incarceration of thousands of

ethnic people project and a slave you on shet up for a second shut up

fo i goant to read i don't want to s st m watch i'm watching something set up someone send me something for the cynical purpose of ensuring that nothing happens

keep on keeping on go watch stup if you don't want to talk now we're going to talk i'm putting on i

he left he surrendered what a pussy

what is fucking bossi out saying

pressing the material premises behind the political forces that would make an actment of such a demand

which i thought was

us took conds land to build trans wall

anybody who i think had their land taken

i think should be you know to build the wall like through the

eminent domain for example i think

just a

let's see bass of course the leftist perspective private land was exposed the you look would just them that claims bound really do the a sumptions yeah you know

thket a certain point in the end of day look i mean

people who had the land taken from them are now gone

we anybody's alive and has had the land taken from

that ought to be

come back from but i i don't think that's generally

yeah

we're going to bring in

leftism today

hello

okay

you want to come up

it was dark

oh you're a pussy

mean it's dark

can we see you

you see how it's well no i wll but i mean it's dark wh are on my camera

you can turn on the light

no i'm in my card

my lights don't turn on to my car i have a fucking old a s car

so how maany if you want

's so bad i won'll get to lighte but you' have to give me one second

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i just let right here

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i a i am outside because i'm in a different city

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cae belive you fucking spain

fifteen minutes talking to that dumb ass instead of me you need to bring some actually funcking educated people onto your stream hoe

we'll see if you're educated

we'll see you

all right where's mye

fright

no its

you do

okay so

what do you want so basically

what i wanted to talk about was i wanted to talk about

you'r contradiction

in you'r econ right

because you're econom doesn't make any sense to me

why

borkers the waar

you support china

which inherently

this leads me to believe that you support market socialism because china is currently market socialist they do't

call himsel wortt socialist

so you support china

give me a sec goond to pugg and rolling over you support china

yeah

but you also call yourself a marchist

h is really funny to me because she shimpink has no

plans to move over to a planed economy

uh huh boy

you call yourself a marchis and let me put my earbuts back in

so you call yourself a marxalist

but you support china and china has a fucking market economy right china produces specifically for profit

china produces

specifically

with them

china does not produce p profit

okay

china doesn't produce for profit

no and china is also a plant economy

mark this definition you know do you know what mark thinks profit is

sure so you just said china produces for profit what is china

what do you mean what is china

but what is china a blossy wouldi be okay

i'm not going to do this broken borshit

what is china i think we both know what the folks china is doing today

listen

you're a little dumb ass youver fucking red marks ok you know stoping yousef a little pussy stop getting ahead of yourself little bit going yeah you got to know who's in charge here

but all let's rock it let's see what you just said

you said she has no plans for china to transition into a planned economy but the chinese economy is already planned

and it's not planned for profit it's planned on the basis

of maximizing the well being of the chinese people

now

ore companies and firms within china

producing for profit

within the limited extent in which they are able to yes

but that is under the oversight of an overall

general plan which is not made for profits when you say china produces for profit

you don't know the fock you're talking about

because china as a whole does not plan and produce for profit

actually they do things they do things that are not profitable

in the short term which end up benefiting the chinese people in the long term they destroy entire industries because they decide these industries are no good for the chinese people if everything was for buck and profit

why would the chinese state act on behalf of the chinese people in a way that comes at the expense of profit so often

oh sweden fucking has a health care program that buys backbucking medicine at a profit that won't benefit the medicine companies

and sweden is socialist now isn't it

that's called social democracy ok if by the linchspin of sweden's economy you know that's not true because the linchpin of sweden's economy is still capitalism

yourself bucking dop the limspin of sweden's economy is still american led financial capitalism

so you wron don't want me ha

talk over me

yeah because you're wrong you don't know what the fuck you're talking about

ah all yeah you have to keep talking

now let me finish my fucking point

you don't know what the fugg you're talking about

because i you actual open

this spoken book right here oll i know it's scary to you capital

you would know

from the horses

boking

no

what

mark says capital is

march says capital

marka's capital is that which increases its own exchange value

now what is the majority of production in china is the majority of production in china

to increase its own exchange value

fucking yes dumb ask what does a gucci store do

it

bucking takes surplus value

the wage

which is the difference between the value produc in the wavee

and walking makes money domas

wait so because china wouldn't want

because china has not completely eliminated capital and capital still exists in china

that means china

isn't socialist

no it's the if you read so but ok i've read capital more i read capital and n wre capital do i find the view that the transition to socialism a part where mark says that capitalism is

generalized commodity production you know what generalized means it means the in

it means

the general the typical form of production

it's for profit

that's not what generalized commodity production means at all hold on that's not what it means at all

that's not what it means at all not what it means no it doesn't he's not just saying marx isn't just marx don't called generalized commodity production because the profit is widespread

y shut shut your mouth shut your mouth hey hey listen listen listen listen you need to shut your mouth

your chin strap is not doing you any good by the way

you really need to show your in yeah you're really weird ugly trim really weird yeahyh you're getting cloud on right no's where you said that's your perspective sirtin so quiet

it is my perspective yeah i think so let's let's talk about generalized commodity production

so generalized commodity production doesn't just mean that profit is widespread

the word actually means

that the commodity form is general that's what it means it doesn't mean that ah

the pursuit of profit is widespread that's not what it actually refers to so i think you need to read that book again

little boy o

know you're making a vosh argument because the commodity form has existed since the beginning of labor

the commodity form existed outside of yeah but not the generalized commodity form which redces all commodities to a common standard

it reduces the typical form of production

to commodity production commodity production is production with the goal no there ha always been the production of commodities the difference with generalized commod ofy production is that it's held with general standard the

yes to a general standard yes a general standard in china dude

that china actually doesn't have generalized commodity production

yeah it does ude no it doesn't

china had generalized commodity production chinese stel is it is it private firms

who produces chinese technology is it private firms or it's a collaboration we know bth public and private but that's besides the point

the overall lyinchpin that drives china's economy is not generalized commodity production

ab a planned economy

collaboration

so when sweden collaborate when the national health service collaborates with medicine you didn't listen to what i said l you didn't actually listen to what i said i didn't say that the reason it doesn't have generalized commodity production is because there's a partnership between private and public

i said it's because you're the one who pointed out that everything's private i said that's not true

what i was trying to get at is that the reason china doesn't have a generalized so the fuck up or shut the fuck up

the reason china doesn't have generalized commodity production

is because the linspin of the chinese commodity

is not the

the general commodity form doesn't exist within china

because m c m which is actually what defines capital

is not actually what defines china's developmental model

china's developmental model is measured in terms of

the general welfare and happiness of the chinese people

not

in terms of profit

ok so we both know m c m prime is right m c m prime

is when i take money and i make comman we know get more money i know right what do you you not do that in china

does fox kana do that in china

thejor you cannot actually explain hold on hold on

you're talking about sensationalized media stories like fox on it's not a marxist analysis let's talk about gu let's talk about shut the fuck up you cannot explain actually brands like gucci

could their actual profitability could not be explained

in terms of the traditional mcm model or the theory of value

not good

really

so you're saying gucis you don't know what the theory of value is dude we already why ok so why what makes products profitable

ok

what makes gucci products profitable ready

is because they employ what's called variable capital they employ what's called labor

so the labor that goes into the gooy products is what makes them valuable under the value of the wage of that labor is the sustenance of the work so on you're getting ahead of yourself i know you read you know you read capital half of the book once

and you think you're really confident about these ideas you don't you actually don't know anything you're talking about you actually have no fucking idea about any of the things you're talking about i hope you know you have no fucking idea about anything things you're talking about you're saying good products are valuable because of the labor that goes into them

wait repeat what you dejustcid gucci products are profitable

because of the variable capital that goes into them the labor no

gucci products or or

profitable yeah because the variable capital paid to the worker is less than the overall profit that gucci corporate that's a taukology you're basically just saying that

since guchi does not give all of its profits to the workers that are involved in its production particl the golf program

we don't give one hundred percent this is well i'm not saying you're saying this but i'm saying if i made this argument this would be le sllan right i'm not was sell and i don't want to give one hundred percent of the profits of the government

i

what the but that you haven't explained where the profitability of a gucci product comes from

you're saying it comes from the difference between the wages of the workers involved in its production

a

the price that it's selling the commodities for

that it's making a

a return on making sir pous value

it's surplus value

and this is yeah but that's not what on but that's not surplus value because

in that case if we evaluate the actual labor that goes into bouci products it is

the price is significantly higher than that

well they make significantly more surplus value what are you talking about bro

but they market up they market up way beyond its real labor value

because it's a brand often

yes

ok monopolies in the labor theory of value are very unique she does not have a monopoly on anything

it has a monopoly on the gucci brand that's what monopoly means it means only they god that means nothing it doesn't have a monopoly on handbags it doesn't have a monopoly onsso people pay do you not agree that people pay money for the gucci brand it has a monopoly legal why why ok on and wt where does the willingness of people to pay money for the gucci brand

fill into explaining its profitability

because what they can get away with

is

hard

ing much more for the gucci brand compared to the average wage

that they pay

which is the sustenance of the worker in variable capital

that that's what i'm wanting to ask you is how can they do that and you're saying it's because they have a monopoly on the gucci bread

well what about the gucchi brand is worth having a monopoly on to explain such great margins of profitability

well mark actually mentions this in the beginning of capital one asking why people buy shit isn't really a productive question mark wasn't a psychologist

mark did not care

about if you're talking about it does matter noo it does matter if we're talking about you cannot explain why guhe specifically is profitable if you're not from your analysis not just hear me did you not just hear me

yeah but this is what a marxist would say simmons bece youre a fuk idiot i'll explain it to you

monx's theory of value only applies at the aggregate level

it doesn't apply to individual companies or individual stores it applies at the aggregate level so what it would with the marxist would basically say is yes gucci marks it up

and makes way more money the otherwise would but the labor theory of value is still operative at this general level of the economy at the aggregate level

that would be the marx's position but because you're fucking moron you can even answer my fucking question when i quizzedron you basically had to say thatnply on the brand of g that doesn't fucking explain why g shi's being profitable in the first place sides g that's called a monopoly fucking idiot

but a monopoly would only be applicable in that case

but the labor doesn't explain why it's so why it's cost so much

any will

actually we're talking about the wuater diamond paradox right now

you're talking about the water dime paradix

see

if you want to get into why something costs something more

right

well well well well well let's let me let me let me break this down in steps ok number one

gucci is a specific brand

it has a monopoly why is it why is it marketable why is it popular because they market

because they have celebrities were because they do all of the ok

that they pay for

with

all of these things they pay for comes out of surplus value

what does that mean what does that mean what does that mean

yeah's one thing

what it means basically

when you have a business doms i'll explain what it means to you since you're fumbling and stumbling and mumbling and waffling your talking words i can actually explain it mass to save time what an actual smart classical marxist would say number one is that surplus is being reallocated from other sectors of the economy into the pockets of gucci that's what a smart marxist would say who's just a bare bones b

marxist dogmatic marxist and at marxs classical marxist doest minimally educated would have to admit

that surpluses from other sectors of the economy are being given to gucci and that's why it's so profitable within itself you cannot explain how guci gets away with making mo these incredible margins of profit compared to the costs of production and the cost of variable capital and variable capital in gucci's

ok

you're asking about compounding capital obviously there's going to be more fucking compounding

constan invariable capital influcecting gucci's lines

that adds to its value

but no i'm talking about the fact that people are taking their money and buying gucci

and gucci and this does not actually reflect on the extent of value crystallized in the gucci products

yes i don't i fuck and agree with that yes

the value is the socially necessary human labor time

that is for marx himself

but youh didn't explain to me how she makes profit how goo you make profit you can't just explain that in terms of surplus value that you can't explain that in terms of the surplus value guci is producing

goocy doesn't produce the surplus value

to explain its profitability margins let me ask you a question if we haved one hundred percent automation could you make profit

um

no

hold on hold on hold on that's not necessary that's not necessarily true

you could make profit if you had knowo s seriozations of the attention economy would disagree with that you could still make profit

what economy

attention economy

well fal can actually

when you talk about

making profit

in the marxist sense

you're talking about

the difference

between the sustenance of the worker

and the value they produce

no you're not no you're not that's not what prophitt means whatsoever all profitt means in the marxist sense

what no that's not what profit means actually that's not what profit means is literally when there's one hundred percent automation so you can't pull any more surplus value

because that would put an end to the law of value that would put an end to the law of value the question of profit is more ambiguous but anyway

that's not what profit means in marx a sense profit just means you make more money than you put in in the first place that's profit what do you put in you put in variable capital you put no you put in money money commodity and you get more money

this

what are the what are the parts of a commodity

variable capital the wage constant capital which is the compounding materials that you user

and then it boils down to variable capital and surplus value right because you can overtar you can underpay someone

whos like picking shit out of i think you're trying to say that s surplus value is not just surplus value is not the difference between

the commodities price and the wage of the worker that's not what it means

nowhere in marks will you find that

surplus value is something to produce

what's that

go on go on listening

yeat surplus value is not this is something hassan also tried to say and also the fake marxist on bred toub were trying to say

surplus value

does not primarily take that form

surplus value doesn't just mean what isn't paid to the worker because the worker is paid the precise

worth of their value

as it's expressed as a commodity

the workers paid the exact labor value

yes they are in so far as value is expounded into the form of a commodity the workers p the exact price of their labor

the exact price yes they are there pid a wa wage is exactly a value the value of their labor is that wage

read wage labor and capital

you clearly don't know the difference between value and price is the issue

yes i do in so far as value is expounded value comes to manifest its significance

in the form of contradictions

it doesn't manifest its significance

in the form of workers are not being paid enough money that's not because they're getting paid the exact value produce

value is produced because humans are the manner is surplus value manifested in the economy

surplus value is manifested

when you pay a worker a wage now wage

no that's not how its manifested of a worker

that's not how it's manifested at allus value because that's literally what it marks directly contradicts this view

in his work

that's not true at all you need to do more homework you don't know anything about marxism re is a stirpoles value

ok quote me the relevant passages and theories of surplus value

three

quote me the relevant passages

f in

on

you're cutting out your connection is cutting out

qoll me the relevant passage

if i

well have to go somewhere else and it started acting up out of nowhere i have to turn off my camera because it's killing my battery

we anyway i mean fualking

here's the deal haw here's the deal won't we the relevant passages from theories of surplus value

okay then i'll shut up and i'll go to somewhere with better internet and i'll fung and got to dude

okay

i'm not at home i can't

you know i don't fuk because i think you're talking about your assor a confusing value with price

no i think yeah a little bit

i'm a little bit hoir

your little bit notice is that is that why you have a chin strap and you can't even grow full bear you can't even grow fullr little bit here

you can't even grow a full of beer inr little beitch

that's why i'm a little bit oll bear i want to go tea

you can't even grow that you don't have enough fucking hair to grow go to you have a fucking ugly chin strap like a fucking ratly some all show you some hair when i take off my shirt baby

all showes a funken hair aite

yeah

yeah you're a little girl you don't know anything about marxism you're fucking sudle intellectual fraud ho unenthusan you sound

oh why you're not arguing with them dumb ass like belgium w you are dumb fock you are literally a dumb fuk i'm a doumb you literally think that surplus value just means paying workers less than what their labors worth n it's not what it means

this is not what it means

in so far as value

takes no form

of the commodity and and therefore price the paid the exact value of their labor

the whole reason the concept of value has to be distinguished from price

is because of the internal contradiction of price

price cannot define its own value

value comes to enter into contradiction with price in the form of capitalist crisis value is human quantities of labor time i know what fucking value is dude

no you don't know what value was so and i'm trying to find it but you're also fucking talking you don't know what value is

yes i do no you don't so you think it's the same as price and it's not value not abstract quantities of human labor time is it yes or no

yes

ok so

they you just admitted that i know what value is no you don't because you're misapplying the concept of value when you're trying to describe its relation to price

oh it's relation of price ok yeah basically what happens is

you can correlate equilibrium prices with a certain amount of value this is the water dimond paradox

so the reason why in equilibrium

water

and diamonds

well there equilibrium prices right diamonds have a higher equilibrium price than water

because it takes more constant capital to produce diamond

that's the reason why it has a higher price that's doubtful andanyway that's doubtful that's not true the marxist perspective is that

when you have commodities that are arbitrarily given prices

wildly beyond their value in the aggregate

the law of value averages them all out

so it's just taking from other sectors of

the economy that actually do produce value

so it's all at the aggregate level

so you can you can sell you can really shit in a bucket and sell it for five thousand dollars and people can pay five thousand but at the aggregate level the law of value is still going to manifest i'm not disputing that

gal ca in make

a rembrandt painting and sell it ok that does not disput the law of value because that's a one yeah so what you' what you're talking about is wrong the reason why diamonds can be inflated way beyond

the actual price and cost of their production which they are if you know anything about the history of fuckin

diamonds and the deber corporation

m

that's how you would explain you didn't explain it in the correct way

well that's the marxist way to that no it wouldn't be the marxist perspective would just say the response to the water and dime paradox is that at the aggregate level the law of value still applies

yes but what is the law of value the law of value which you just agreed

is that

there are that if you're looking at it just at the level of the diamond sector

the diamond sector can't be taken in a vacuum because it's interconnected with the rest of the mode of production that would be the marxis perspective you don't know anything about marxs

when did i say that there a is only diamonds whathen did i say that

labor there you said that the reason why diamonds are cost as much as they do is because it takes more in terms of the constant capital i think you mean the technology that goes into their production which isn't true acnology is yeah but it's not true that that's the reason why diamonds are expensive as they are diamonds are fucking cheap way cheaper than they're fucking sold for

cheap in terms of what because i'm in terms of the cost of production their way cheaper

then what they're sold for

no mess

but we're talking about equilibrium price do mass you're talking about fucking supply and demand you know the difference between yeah so i'm talking about equilibrium price to theyre over inflated in terms of their price

because it's a monopoly it's literally an example of a monopoly that over inflates the price of diamonds

dude we're talking about fucking marxism

obviously you're not you're not a marxist because you don't understand that the way you explain the water and diagram right paradox is by referring to the economy at the aggregate level

you didn't even bring that up oh aggregate level

oh you got me

oh i didn't mention every economy in the entire bucking you said the reason diamonds are more expensive is because of the constant capital crystallized in their production or extraction which is not true

what did you just say what word salad are you fucking spuing out

i'm repeating what you said that it's the constant capital crystallized in the diamond that makes them expensive as they are which isn't true

ah

yes it is

no it's literally not true it's literally not true

so let me let me ask you something

if i have a chair

and i had someone

went

paid variable

was paid variable capital to chop down the wood to from the tree

and then to give the wood to the saw company

to maake the chair

is that

wood laborers

the laber crystallize in the wood yes but that doesn't explain the price of diamonds

a looking thing

but that doesn't explain why diamonds cost so much you didn't solve the paradox

the reason but that's not why diamonds are as expensive as they are they're as expensive as they are because they're

inflated way beyond their actual fucking costs of production including all of the constant and variable capital crystallized in them

but you can inflate anything to be whatever the fuck you want

yeah but you have you literally mark you literally lied about why diamonds are expensive to fit your dog matic view of marxis of this diamond you literally had to lie about why diamonds are as expensive as they are the value of a piece of bread not match its equilibrium price

is the what

would the value of a piece of bread not have a tendency to match its equilibrium price

according to labor theory of value

a piece of bread that anyone can bake

right

in in a if you're going to maintain a consistent rate of profit and you're actually going to yes to in order to maintain competitive

and continue to maintain a consistent rate of profit yes but not necessarily n

so

your criticism was oh but you didn't include everything else in the market

no that wasn't my criticism my criticism is that you flat out and lied

their explanation of why diamonds are more expensive

who gives us shit

pieces of poopy are expensive dude

your job listening to the fucking concepts you're grasping attra you think the only thing that could explain why diamonds are expensive is because i show w diamonds why bring up the constant capital at all when you could just explain it in terms of the aggregate level of the economy theres room for arbitrariness in the economy where people just know prices for shit that has nothing to do with the aggregate of that all of this is that services are not covered by the labor theory

value because you can't exactly reproduce a service every time like you can a piece of brok so you can't buk measure it aggregately like you're talking about

i understand what the labor theory about no you don't you really don't

yes i do i you don't know

you' just proven you didn't even understand the difference between price and value

what's the difference between price and value the way kiddle what's the difference inen price and value kiddle

i justalking told you like

or time what is the difference between price and valu is the average quantity of human labor time

where does mark say that

int

etc where does mark say yeah ok

ok i'll give you a quote

all give me quote

but march

i'm sure you know that mark wrote capital in lairs you know that right

okay

i give me the quote i would have to give you one quote at a time

which i'm pining with doing give me a quote that where mark says that's what value is

i can start off by saying i can start off by showing you that mark says that value is

human labor

yeah i know that but what about the average you we dibate about this before and you were blown the out about w says it's the average quantity of labor time whrees he define labor as the average quantity of labor time that's something you made up you made up that part you made up that part about the labor time i made up yeah you did you fucking made it up where did he say that

manufacturer

what does markstink manufacturer's op

i don't know

you don't know a manufacture mark says value only takes the form of price

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what question dominated my big dick is in your at you little fucking pussy

you ran away like a fucking bitch

he literally ran away and surrendered to me like a fucking pusssie

you ran away to me like a little from like a little fucking bitch

you fucking ran away

he literally ran away

he fucking ran away because i fucking called him out on his fake fucking made up

view of falkon

how marx defines value he doesn't say it's the average quantity of labor time he just made that shit up

i lially remember fucking debating him about that too where he made that dumb shit up

what a fucking pussy

he doesn't even know what the fuck he's talking about

i wonder if i should upload that ship

now i want to debate fellow traveler too cause he's going to make a video about me how about he just debates me like a fucking man

i want to debate fellow coupler

can i debate fellow cuckler

fuck and pusssee

what a litteral pussy

unironic literal fuck and pussy

what a litteral bitch

unfocking believable

i quoted marx which literally defuted everything he said

if the worker wasn't paid the value of their labor power it wouldn't be able to be reproduced yet

he doesn't even know that workers are paid

the value of their labor bread to haveb started the mean that workers are not paid the full value of their labor

there's no such thing as fooll value

in the first place valuees eminently contradictory

bosted said he enjoyed your critiques and is scared when a comy like you was waving american flag

i kind of like bosti

i like his

i like how he's a character like i like how he is a consistent theme

and i just think it's cool

sue me

i like his theeam i like how he theeamed i want to i kind of want to be more like that

but with my own team not copying his team but like

be more of a character with my own theme you know

fellow travelers of fuck and dum mas i literally hat to lecture him on basic marxism

i literally had the fucking lecturim on basic marxism

youo um

alsie just went live in his dreams called

yeah

yeah he's full of shit

you just went live i'm goinga go jst like that video

i'm goninga go just like that video ho

sat there

yeah he's so full of falck andshit what a dumb fock

that's he's coping so folk and hard he's literally coping so folking hard

i've never seen someone cope as pathetically as that

fucking coping so fuck and hard

he literally said some shit in his ork

i are destroyed

fuck are you talking about

you guys want to react to hassan with zerko let's sek the red at first and we'll do that

ilet check the redit first

um

facebook's banned

oh

why is facebook down does anyone know why facebook's down

why was facebook down no one knows

can

um

i've been out of the loop in terms of news

i've been super out of the loo

d g g took him down yeah i bet

wlo isn't this the fuck and truth

isn't this the funck and truth

isn't this the foken truth

land back expectation reality

ain't that literally the truth

remember lend back is amazon funded

yeah this is a quote from my fukinesse

we're not and by the way a lot of people have been like praising the fucking essay

i want to tell you guys

i wrote this shit

this essay i wrote this essay

in

about six hours with three hours of sleep and i was just shitting outwords

if you think this is high quality worth writing

wow dude you have not seen

you guys are really thirsty for my writings eh

because

like this is literally just something i shit out you have to understand like

i literally spent years

on my writings

to make them high quality and make them poetic and good and shit like

i have way more dude

i have way way way more writings than this

like this is nothing this isn't even high quality with the fuk

this is not even high quality writing ony for me with the five thank you so much tou appreciate your time thank you so much they read it

we're not long from the day the works of jasonk be weaponized against the people's republic of china

with the charge of settlar colonialsm being levied against the han and shinjang and taiwan

this is the crucial part

the circus that is the american left is a darwinian vacuum that selects only for the greatest weapons of american imperialism

which inevitably make their way to the top

you think this is exaggerated perhaps okay that's different

that's true isn't it

the american left is literally a darwinian

selection mechanism

to bring the policies of american imperials

to the top

you guys have kind of encouraged me to release more writings

maybe i'll do more substats

you guys didn't encourage me too because i didn't know like you guys

received this very well and apparently you guys were super impressed by it for some reason i'm shocked at how impressed people were by it i was like

you guys really thought i was a dumb ass didn't you like you really thought i was just like a

dumb fucking guy who can't write or something like dude

i've spent ten years writing dude

i'll definitely give you more substats soon

yeah they deleted their tweet this is what's funny is that

the virginia sex chapter of the c p sa

deleted their tweed

they deleted their tweet

they deleted their fucking tweed

incredible

they deleted their tweet

i wonder why they deleted their tweet

they got ruled

lunar ois anarchists non compete

raise the chaz murderers

what of

five

it i can't show it because there's like an image of death

and i'll show you the tweet

buck yes this is why we need an armed revolution two nazi terrorists out of action

these were two under age black teenagers

that is praising the lynching of

note that our side also offered medical aid to the perpetrators something the fascists would have never done

because you lynched to black

teenagers

you sick fok

you know how these people are accusing me of being like a chauvinist

it was like

only caring about white siz males

which is interesting i don't i didn't know vietnam

the vietnamese communist party has like

said that the vietnamese

is like super into the l g b t stuff i didn't know that and it's interesting

but

s yet she was like yeah you're when you say the people you're just talking about

says the

white men

is that the language the vietnamese communist party uses i don't know

i don't know guys you tell me

i i don't know i i think it's american maybe but

apparently i can't say that because it's a

it's assault if i say that

yeah i'm going to be going to

i'm going to be

argue i'm going to be going on midwestern marks sometime

um

yout oth the small plots

thank you

ho on

i'm actually reading paul koxshot's article rd

give me a second this is boring shit

but the aim therefos ensured

it col form around the central urban and used for development the nationre's hall

vigness bosmy is born out of the comparative histories of china and india after the independence of land was nationalized

the private a probriation of rent by parasitic landlord class came to an end

in india the class survived

continue to appropriate a large part of the surplus

addition to agricultural rent capitals society generates rent for minerals and urban land

i think

i would just have to point out

transfer into collective ownership of complet vies indigenous group

ok i think so coxye is saying

that marxs was against

parcealization of small plots to individuals for working men societies

and that land should be nationalized i kind of think

um

to

i think marx was right

but that it doesn't necessarily mean the land has to be

nationalized in the sense of being given under the full control of the state

i think what it also means

is that land cannot be used for rent

but that land as far as its use is concerned

which is cultivating the soil

can still be used

you see the difference

the land itself cannot be commodified

but

there can be an independent cultivation of that land

you never said anything else the pr c

why i think in seriously dude he actually knows his shit

you know that's why i'm reading this in the first place

so he's talking about rent

but i'm more interested in terms of land reform

is nationalization in the sense of putting restrictions on the sale and purchase of land yets

but in terms of giving people an economic base a fundamental means of production

i think there's a difference

so it's really interesting and there's a lot to say about this

but this is super interesting stuff i'm going to get back to this

i don't have time to read all it ontream obviously

defeatst

yeah

new infrared murd guys whatever happened to durham operations you remember that guy

whatever happened to him

durham operations

remember him

is there new drmvid

no way

is there anyone

in the read it

this is the infrared merge how many of you would buy this mug

how many go would buy this morn i might just do it

i think i'm going to start selling

mugs with just the infrared logo on them

i'll just sell the infrared logo on the mugs

or i i'll sell

this on the mugs who would buy this mug

you would not buy this mug

who fucking buys mugs anyway

when the fulk buys mugs in the first place

i've never heard of people who buy mugs

who fucking bites mogs stud

if you drink a lot of mugs i mean you should buy it

are you kidding what's wrong with it

if you're a moug drinker

you should drink this

it's beautiful

but i couldn't i don't know if i could sell it because the guy who made it

just gave it to me as a gift

you know it's funny guys

memember i fucking got the e mail where i just got this drawing and i was like what the fuck is this someone random by i send me an e maail

and everyone was like oz you're so harsh on this guy

do i still

use this photo a lot i'm never going to forget the guy who made me this i will always use this drawing

it's become a mem i'm always going to use it

ok i really want to make it my profile picture too

i'm very close to

i'm very i always use this tube

i'm very close to making in my profile picture too

that was my first form of fan art

and at the time

it seems like i was ungrateful

what

this will always have a place in my heart

is the first fan art of infrared

this will always have a place in my heart as the first fan art

of infrared

i will always use this

forever

anyway

the conservative socialist manifesto

american movement for chinese land back has become

maybe the biggest authoritarian left of babo spending all time trying to pressure usa to stop advogating landback

and make them capitulaing in removing their location marker

regarding their position and occupied indigenous lands

or maybe the fact that authoritarian leftists

constantly regurgitate conservative might makes right arguments

but why china is the legitimate governance

even in areas where indigenous populations exist and resist

la la la la lo this guy's going to get a job in the uh

the american government

i told you

the american left

someone clipped us for twitter or some shit

the american left is literally a darwinian selection chamber

you just filter the best

policies of american imperialism this guy's going to get a job in the next fuckin democrat administration

and he's going to pressure china to give land back to the indigenous population and let me tell you this scam that is fuckin land back fuckin land back is a scam for privatization of public land they want

indigenous is a code word for private corporations to swoop in and steal the land of other countries some explain it to you

let's say vietnam did land back for the indigenous vietnamese tribe

one corrupt family in that tribe is going to pocket the money and he's going to invite foreign corporations to exploit the land

ust what landback means

that's what land bank means by the way

that's what it means

that's what it means

you didn't know that

you didn't knowice what it met wh i think amazon gave you twelve million dollars

because they want to privatize our american land you know what we're going to do a sing aong right now

we're going to you guys want to have a spooky session re tell spooky stories

but let's have a session

we're going to fight land back we're going to fight the privatization of land

um

by singing a song

this used to be a slogan of bernie's campaign but the leftist went into bernie's campaign he said no you can't use the son

because the land belongs to indigenous people only

by the way that's why he lost by the way that's one of the reasons

this lane there we go this is our song trying to take this song away from us strem this line was made for you and me as i was walking that ribbon of

a swro that golden highway that golden this is sign was made for you and me rainer shaw this

yeah what do you want

hello

now

i was gon on

oh

my followers

want me to join the voice chat

uh for has

alright

and debate him

ah and i'm unsure

might

have i succeeded already where do i go to

what

my followers want me to join

this voice chat for this stream that has his doing

i am has

oh so this is live this is broadcasting right now yeah

wow i'm so new to discord

and

i've

i've been apt

was it up until now

well i

you seem like like a nice considerate person in person

okay

and i've been taking these

stances on

in in my

a my online statements

ware

i have

really gone all

with putting forth it

perspective that i've absorbed

from

a

colonize peoples who i know in person

ah okay

mister

this this native guy who i met

two years ago

and whom i am still close friends with

is

no

where i get my ideas about anti coolonialism

i owe it all to him

okay

wh i remembt

i remember

the first time we met

he explained to me this vision he has

ah

for

breaking up

the u s continent or not the u s continent the what they call turtle island traditionally

into hundreds of autonomous states

ah

self governing

a preferably under the

indigenous confederacy like the one tecomso wanted to create

h

and within these

post colonial states

socialism

can be built that's the basic vision that ok so why don't you do it

let's do it

well go ahead do it

i'm not going to stop you go ahead

well that's that's more

that's more warm and encouraging than what i've heard from the

others who take the

i fall into this socialist patriot stance no i am a socialist patriot

yeah i've enpounded lots of

hostility

and we've we've encountered so much pushback

what you want you want to know my opinion on the prospects of your success

okay

yeah i think it's a pipe dream i you're not going to succeed in doing anything like that

so't i prefer not to waste my time on something that's not going to happen

thank you so much ip' already happened in half of oklahoma half of what used to be oklahoma

it is now governed by the several tribes

yeah but wh they they have a presence in the land

in oklahoma

so do all these other tribes

wonder they preponderate in terms of their population in the land in oklahoma

yeah so it's evidently going to be more complicated there's going to be hurdles there's going to be contradictions so i i have no reason to believe this is a viable you think the united states is going to be balconized

into hundreds of in indigenous

in the only thing that like

i could maybe foresee is that

this would be the basis for like the creation of the entire privatization of the us

and that like the indigenous people would be like feudal lords who rent out the land to corporations

and you would have that kind of arrangement right

but would be you know that would be neo colonialism and marxism leninism

is our route for defeating no colonialism

why would it be neo colonialism

well what you described a scenario where yeah with the indigenous people are being

compensated because they're the ones inviting the

places in to you know just like a country invites foreign corporations

you get more money and wealth

that's what they tll can tell they have their own workers revolutions

olcations marks clentiness we all agree but it's not it's not going to happen it's not on the itinerary indigenous people are about like two point four something like that or one percent of the u s population so how is it going to happen that they're going to

claim all the land of so called turtle island

why should i think to say that it happened in half of oklahoma

what is the percentage of indigenous people in the land that they now own in oklahoma

well it is enough for them to be able to govern it

ok is that apply for the entire united states or just oklahoma

it does apply there are hundreds of indigenous nations these tribes have their own governments

and they but i would certainly accept say the we are tribe here taking control over the land i own

that i'm on now

the indigenous people own the land

i do not own the land nobody owns this land i'm on

besides the we ought tribe

why don't you give it to them now

i don't own any land

do you want anything

go i own some cool stuff in this room right now

okay

so

you're saying that because in oklahoma where indigenous people are actually a sizeable portion of the population

a

because they came to some kind of settlement in which a part of oklahoma can be governed by indigenous people because that's where the majority

of people of the indigenous people live and that's the majority of the people in that region

what you're basically saying is that this applies to the entire united states or my bad turtlele

weyh to canada too

all of these states i mean canada canada and the united states these are fake countries ok before we get into the moralization i want to keep us round in reality because i'm a marxist don't focus on reality

so

soour

you don't see that that how that's delusional that two per cent of the population

in lake laine to one hundred percent of the country

it's going to be a democracy

everyone is going to be able to vote

why

well i don't understand how that works i mean i being it's going to be postl what i'm not asking you what it's going to be like i'm asking you how it's going to even happen in the first place

the same way it's happened in half of what used to be oklahoma half of oklahoma doesn't even exist anymore

half of oklahoma was only being populated by them

it's not like this was like a

population dense area

you don't see how it would pose a problem to try and apply

it's the same thing to the whole entire fokon country right

in the scenario

everyone would be able to vote it would i'm not asking you how moral or just it would be ok i'm asking you

how would that even be possible

the entire united states to dissolve and two percent of people will own everything how are they going to do it they're not going to own work well they're not going to like ok how is that going to become possible to be how is that going to be made ss

how is that going to be made possible

it's about jurisdiction

o i'm not asking you what the utopian society will be like i'm asking you how we would ever even get there

well the how would that be possible

w would you deal with the resistance

do that

by ninety nine percent of people

well white o lies

are going to have to step up they're going to whit white allies will only be ten percent of the population at most

where're you getting that number

we'll do the math how many white people are trump supporters as a proportion only white people are proletarians

proletarians of all color arians are a sizable portion of trump's voters do

well that's the

dramatic aspect of so on you couldn't you can't even we can't even get bernie to be elected as the on the democratic ticket

you're saying that you're going to get the american you're going to convince the american population to

dissolve the united states

and balkanize the united states into on hundred indigenous confederations or something and you're going to be able to do this

we couldn't get bernie elected

because of bourgeois democracy the

primary was rigged against him

you would have waned you're not going to do it electorally so how are you going to do it if not you're not going to do it electorally so how w you do it

for the equivalent model of

all the past anti colonial socialist revolution

how will you initiate this revolution

by building up

a vanguard what does that bring sufficiently

to be able to step in

when the classs contradictions intensify enough

for us to be able to that's what that's what many parties have been doing for for

a century in america and it never happened

do you

think that a revolutioni ist

possible on this continent what

of course i think it's possible

but

what i don't think is possible is that such a revolution would be premised on the basis of a

giving indigenous people one hundred percent of the united states

well it's not going to be possible if

droven your stick

leaders are in charge

of yeah but i think that's a meaningless moralistic claim you're claiming that

american communists are chauvinistic

because

they want to work for the american people and not just for two percent of the american people

certain ones are chauvinistic

the people who have a real grasp on de colonial theory

they're the ones that need to get in charge of this revolution

and they will never win the support of the masses

because they're actually wrong and delusional and

deranged

why not our agenda is about uniting

n

colonize proletarians with the settler pro that's what you say your agenda is is that actually what happens in practice when you premise a movement on the basis of pure morality

and moral sentiments of the white guilty a

upper middle classes

the working class doesn't care to indulge in demorlizations to try to feed their families

and put a roof over the head of their families they don't care about all this dumb moralizing bullshit

yes lots of

yeah lots of interesting points being made here

i'm telling you the truth the working class in america does not care about your

moralizations

they're focused on actually

living

which is they can't take for granted

unlike the upper middle classes who have a lot of spare time on their hands

to take up these deranged call causes premised on the basis of pure morality

i am not upper middle class my indigenous friend is not upper middle class well you have enough time on your hands to not be focusing on the

supporting yourself and your family to be focusing on this nonsense

which is fine which is fine by the way

but i just think

you have to understand that if you think that that applies to america's working people you're wrong i have a lot of spare time in my hands too

but i also recognize

that's why i have to get down to the level of working people

and make sure that i understand that when i'm trying to sell them something

i can actually

have an idea of where they're coming from and whether it's going to make sense to them or not given their condition

i have a lot of time spare time to be an intellectual

and read theory and care about all this convoluted

here you stop

but when i talk to working people i know they don't have time for that so i'm not going to waste their time

and i'm not going to condemn them as chauvinist

just because they're not going to indulge in what is basically my

the upper middle class privilege

i am not upper middle class i support my family by giving them financial aid

pretty much every month how do you make a living way

i'm a student

anyway ok you are middle class you know that right

yeah you could you could argue that

okay

so anyway m

yeah you're not going to succeed and you can prove me wrong and i'll just

you know

look you want to know the truth rayner is that if you succeed and you prove me wrong

you can actually legally legally right cause it'll be legal we have say this for twitch or whatever

you can condemn me

like when you get in power you can say has is condemned

to corporal punishment

that

sounds a bit outlanded you know i'm giving you permission if you succeed you can do that

i don't expect it to be in a leadership position

no no but you can pass it on to your indigenous friends that since i doubted the possibility of that vision

when your socialist revolution succeeds

i volunteered to be the first to be condemned for being a counter revolutionary from the start who doubbed

i imagine that at that point this

the online drama isn't going to matter so much we're going to

be trying to rebuild from

are really devastateing i'm just trying to explain to you how much i don't buy into the possibility of you succeeding

all r why why do indigenous people need all of the land

is my question was all stolen from them

well in the here and now why do they need all of the land right now

so that their nations can

properly developed

they don't need all of the united states to do that

they don't need all of it

you know

they can they can they can need a reasonable amount according to their

you know their living standards and the needs of their people and

you know

things like that but they don't need all of it

that's

so out there

hohy do they need all of it in a literal sense that's true sense that

a all these

new people all these people who immigrated to here and their descendants are still going to be living here but the indigenous people need to

have jurisdiction

over this line that's the key

why they're not going to have

but they're not planning to kip ever y else out i don't understand why

why do they need all everything

because it was stolen

all land is stolen

you sound like donald trump i don't care if i sound but he's right the all land is stolen

what land isn't stolen all land is stolen

no i'm sure indigenous people stole land from each other

that's like saying did they not the s needs to mill did they not take land from each other in military conflicts

that's that's like saying the u s needs to militarily occupy all of asia because china has border disputes with india and vietnam

it's tot no it's not like saying that because

you've shifted the burden here right

you're saying that the reason all indigenous people need the land is because the land is stolen

but all land is stolen

everywhere

so that's not enough to convince me that they need all of the land

now am i advocating to steal land no i'm just saying it's not enough to say that the land is stolen

to say that for example

um

one of the reasons you have ant colonial movements isn't just because the colonizers stole the land although that was like part of the propaganda in the

ideological way of thinking about it is because

in terms of the people living in colonies they comprised a majority

and

they were the people living there and the europeans were just a kind of parasitic presence

upon them right

and it's on that basis that they gained their independence as a people they were a people fighting to be independent

y they polonised an entire continent

the

they didn't even have a right to a state but that happened in the past in terms of the present tense why do indigenous people need all of america

because it was stolen and it doesn't matter how many times you try to obfusate that by saying

people from each other this is identical to

the disgusting racist arguments i've heard

from right winger so i don't care it is a fact that all land is stolen

what's that going to

what what

effect does that statement have

on

x the book

the

well because communist because marxist leninist and communist are focused on people

and serving the needs of people

and not condemning people on the basis of morality and moral judgments about the

three hundred years of history

it's about serving the needs of people living today living today

today the people living today

that's what it's about

hows

returning full jurisdiction going to

uh

interfere with the development toward socialism

how is it going to be bad for that we ought to

take over the land that i'm on now i wish they would take it over

so that we will have

an easier time developing socialism so that this land will be free from a colonial occupier

that interferes

with the development toward socialism

if the us were abolished the single biggest obstacle towards marxist development

globally and internally

would disappear

yeah so snap your fingers and the problem goes away i get it

but we're talking about reality and not fantasy livee

um

and in terms of reality

you're not going to sy something like that could never happen and let's just entertain the idea of the hypothetical that what happened just so we can move this along

let's just assume that

all the land in united states was returned to indigenous

hundreds of indigenous associations and indigenous people

how then have you addressed

the state's current monopoly on violence

how then could you address

the resistance

a coming from americans who don't want this

how then could you address the question of the rights of people and the question of a

the right of association between the lands how co you address parceling out

all of this land between the indigenous people like how would you even

go about

even thinking about that

would there not be a basis sort nowy or that tribes to sort out

how could they sort that out in an equitable way it would be all against all

like how there has to be a neutral party

otherwise the tribes will devolve into might this right

right

mean the cow are you going to equitably

sort that out on an equal basis when tribes

do not have equal power

in equal numbers

well like i said

we're going to i

bro

likely going to try to s

establish a confederacy of sorts

that is going to be able to serve as this kind of mediator

there's going to be ground rules we're not going to let things devolve into so you're going to create a confederacy

and so overnight the united states is going to disappear the constitution is done

the institutions of the government are done are done

state's monopoly on violence vanishes overnight

and instead a indigenous confederacy replaces it

yes

ok

so

how is this indigenous confederacy going to enforce its existence

by cracking down on the reactionaries equivalent to how china cracks down on

uh the reactionaries to trites yeah but but in this case the reactionaries would be ninety percent of the population

again whenre are you getting theose numbers why would

ninety percent of the population risees up in arms

what percent do you think would rise open arms

well

something like

well let's let's see

something like a fourth

or a third of the people in this country are

so you're going to wage a war against a third of americans and it's not going to just be a third or a fourth by the way

fifty percent of eligible voters

voted for trump

in the last election

but how many of them are

the people who are armed and ready to rise up against a hypothetical they will socially definitely give aid to an army that is going to overthrow your you

government

e hundred percent

you're a marxist leninist so what you what we both want is a socialist

government on this continent

well you know the thing is about socialism is that

socialism isn't an ideology that you just want

it applies to people socialism is about the sociality among a people right

socialism comes from a context you don't just want socialism

you want a certain path of development for your people

otherwise socialism has no meaning or context

and as an american communist

i want

a government that works for the common interests and common welfare

and common good of the american people

i don't see a context for communism or socialism otherwise

it's in the interests of the whole proletariat forar

the occupier to be dismantled

i am against american imperialism but

what about internal imperialism

such as

the fact that the united states exists

is

by definition internal imperialism this land is stolen no it's not it's not go realism imperialism isn't when

your land was stolen in the past imperialism is when

you engage in a certain living and active relation to a certain people do i think that indigenous people are being treated unfairly

yeah i do

but i don't think that it's the responsibility of american communists

to remedy that injustice in the form of giving them all of the united states and dissolving all of the united states napoleon underscore but thank you no bolling bon you

okay sounds like you want me it's okay i'm just getting the

thank you to going bonaparde thank you newso thos best for the tenppreciate you thank you so much all right

yeah anyway uh

yeah i don't see why it has to entail

giving all of united states

for the same reason that israel needs to be abolished

ca

israel

um

you have to be careful right because we can't say whatever we want

but

israel

is currently engaged in a conflict with the palestinians

and the arab and muslim world i guess as a whole

um

actually in that circumstances israel finds itself in the minority

and the reason why israel is future

and the future of all the states in the middle east is subject to to

change is because the borders that exist now in the middle east don't reflect the national realities of the people living there in general neither do the borders here

yeah they do

colonial borders were imposed unilaterally without the consent of the indigenous nations the indigenous nations but you din't listen to what i said for the entire middle eastern peoples those borders don't reflect their actual reality

for the united states

sorry

the same is the case here

but it's not you're talking about an injustice in the past

and you're just in the pre you're confronting that purely on the basis of morality what i'm talking about is like an actual current

material reality

the people of the united states these are their borders of the people of the united states

yeah of the people who benefit from settler colonialism they're not the borders

of the people who are fighting for

there water

in what's currently called minnesota minnesota that's fine listen that's fine i'm not against indigenous people and their rightful claims

but your claim is extreme very extreme

that's the difference i'm not against indigenous people who want sovereignty over their own lands and their own water

that's fine

i just have to evaluate what a under what conditions

how would that be possible

in my view the only conditions that would make that possible is a general program of

some kind of land reform where the question of

the distribution of economic space is can be generally confronted

also in a way that addresses the interests of the american people as a whole

a minute

like like in the scenario are you

i

the best caste

ah

scenario the outcomes for these land reforms

will be full return of the

indigenous nations jurisdiction and

yeah but that's not that's not on the listener scare but you need to understand that before purchas from natives

tons of towns along the east coast were purchased by early colums for seashells

provincy was purchased by roger williams

hartford s yeah i got a donation he's basically saying not all of the land was actually stolen and we know that some of it was actually purchased from natives

yeah after they backed them into a corner

and

coud for you so much of continent

you need to understand the

that

the question of jurisdiction and sovereignty these concepts

were not relevant to indigenous americans before colonization

they didn't consider themselves like a universal state that has

you know they just lived on the land and they use the land and they you know

had a relation to the land a special relation no gt me wrong

a deep kind of spiritual whatever relation in their view

right

they didn't

like they didn't they didn't have this kind of modern notion of sovereignty in which like this is ours

since then the conditions have

changed obviously in the era of imperialism it's necessary for

uh

these nations i don't have do issues

i think

we have a problem with marxist in general and among yourselfs

it's the question of

what is the premise

what's the basis so far as the individual is concerned

of the necessity of marxism leninism and communism

and to you the basis the premise of its necessity is morality

it's moraalty

it's some kind of abstractly contrived view

of doing the right and wrong thing

and applying that to

a all of reality

which is actually extremely eurosentric

european

view of morality

i'll be know

whereas marxist leninists in the countries over which they governed

didn't begin for morality

they began from an objective material contradiction

a

which they merely were participating in

they began from something that

wasn't premised by an individually contrived

abstract morality

but from the real existing struggle of their people

you cannot be a monxist lininist if you are not a patriot

youre a patriot for what for a settler's state for your people and for your land

for your papal and for your land like the united states is not a nation

it is still a peeple

with a history and a tradition and a character and an interest it's still a people

within the context of an incredibly violent

imperialist invasion

that has created this

history is an ugly thing

i agree that especially modern european history is very ugly

but this doesn't change the fact that the american people are still a people

now the question of how you can reconcile

a

your sense of morality with this ugly history is a different question i think you should

read hegel

because hagel is a philosopher of reconciliation

and hegel will teach you how

you can be reconciled with a

you know

what you conceive of as an immoral or false or contradictory reality

m but you don't get to impose

this unhappy consciousness and this sense of immory

like everything is false and wrong and

non existent because it is immoral

this is like a dogmatic calvinistic view

that has no place in marxism leninism or its history

the weat nation is real the weat nation are you a member of the weat nation

i can i can apply for citizenship

if and when they regain

full jurisdiction over the lands that i'm on you are not a member of the weat nation

not well not currently

my indigenous friend has

id out

a vision wear

is it i honestly think was he smoking crack or something all e don't tell me about your friend's vision or something like this means nothing to me

i'm talking about the reality right now

ok everyone seems to have an indigenous friend jason and rue had comrade number three you have your indigenous friend

and we have to get to the bottom of like who we're actually talking about

ok

m

the person you're talking about is an individual he is very well educated

i don't doubt it

is he an official representative of this tribe

you can't just name random indigenous people out

you know i thes there's this trend of just

leftist just naming random indigenous people

as the basis of the authority of their extreme

just outlandish views about america and about its future it's like

that's just

you know you can really find anyone to say anything dude

and

i think you really need to get to the bottom of the fact that

i don't think you have

you're reconciled with material reality i think

you're trying to impose morality

as the premise of material reality when material reality is premise is not moral

it's material

materiality is the very premise of morality itself

you have you have reduced words like imperialism and colonialism in the class struggle

to the pure language of pure morality

the only thing you know about imperialism or colonialism is that it's a bad thing people do to each other

but if you read lenin lenin didn't have a

primarily moral view of what imperialism is he had a materialist view where he was describing

a stage of

a motive production of capitalism

and he wasn't saying that more imperialism is an immoral act

nations do

saying imperialism as an actual

mode of production in a sense or the stage of the capitalist mode of production

it needs to be defeated on all fronts either way

but that's just a form of sloganeering and phrase mongering that has nothing to do with reality

you know i'm glad i had this talk because i got some insight into

your rationale i think for example during warm quit during the cultural revolution in china

there was a war against reality in the by slogans

and china learned from this extremism that

prevailed

for like the country that shut down the country

and it's like they've matured from it but it seems like in the west everyone's still in this cultural revolution where

they just trying to phrase monger against the wind and engage in a slogan ering imperialism must be defeated america must be defeated you can shout these slogans all you want

what does what you are saying have to do with reality

it has to do with the reality that

all this land was either stolen or taken under i ask you for reality and not morality and you give me more morality

what does that have to do with the current reality remember

reality unless you're trying to say that reality is only defined by its moral significance

which is not

we have a responsibility as

individual why i feel like the

yout to

why philosophical ok ok responsibility and douw

a responsibility dispensed by what authority and why

all by the values that we where do these values come from what are these values what are they made of where do they come from

personally my values have come from

my sense of solidarity with

you just named a value i'm asking you where the value comes from

it comes from our lived experience

oh

well if you're taught that

if you're taught that

it's ok to

i

innocent palestinian children

then

and

that were joining the idea f is in line with your values but if

h you can have a better

a healthier education then

you're going to have a healthier let's say the palestinians

had no friends in the region

and they were one percent of the population would they still exist

they would

really

israelis wouldn't have just wiped them all out

they would have been forgotten

well it is sound you named a number one percent so

that it's not zero there was no arab world there was no regional significance of the arab israeli conflict

and it was just one percent of palestinians

do you think morality would have a hand in the question of what would happen to the palestinians

well it would in that no it wouldn't it would be completely irrelevant that would the only reason you retroactively explain material realities on a moral in a moral way

these beews are taking for granted the material premises

the reason why

we can have

widespread indignation

at the treatment of the palestinians is because the palestinians still have a fighting chance

if they had no fighting chance

we wouldn't even be talking about it

because they put up this struggle

successfully

trou

you know like

actually posing a

threat to israel

allied with the other people in the region

that's why we're still talking about this conflict

if there was no iran

if there was no syria if there was no i

who else may be turkey

or pakistan or wherever the muslim world

you wouldn't be talking about it

all right that's why israel doesn't consider the palestinians its number one enemy it considers iran as its number one enemy

from the israeli perspectivef there is no iran there would be no conflict

but there wouldd be no issue there there wouldn't be a threat of hamas

uh in gaza or anything like that it would be

finnest

yeah i

i've been able to gather what you're saying

so it's not it's not purely based on morality it's not purely premised by morality

but if the communist party came to power there it would still have a responsibility to return

yeah but but the question is how will it come to power

how would i come to pow

by yying the prolitariat

what

by uniting the proletariat

and doesn't unite the proletariat on the basis of morality or material reality

all material in reality would play

the foremost part in how they would practically achieve this

unity listen you're not going to

why hasn't the communist party won power

already

because of imperialism imperialism holds back revolutions within the co imperialist countries

because of imperialism that's why there's been no

communist party taking power

yes cecil rodes actually has an interesting

right

comments about how imperialism is necessary to prevent

revolution in places like britain

because yeah we know angle said that the labor there was a labor aristocracy in britain we know

but my question for you

is

if the reason why a communist party can't get in power because of imperialism

that begs the question is it even possible for communist parties to get power

it'll become possible when s imperialism is dismantled o was dismantled

if the dismantlement

rests upon the premise of a communist party getting power see why it's an issue

i don't know exactly what you're saying but

how are you going to defeat american imperialism without begging the premise of how you're going to get into power in the first place if the reason you can't get into power

is because of american imperialism

american imperialism will become weak enough to be defeated by a communist party

when it gets weakened enough on the peripheries when enough

neoclonies get liberated from imperial control

the capital will get weakened enough

for the communist to be able to step in and defeat

a far more vulnerable u s capitalist state

so you're saying it's just a matter of time then before the communists take power in america

in a sense but you're going to have to approach it right

we're going to have to play so how long are you going to be waiting

mm

i shouldn't make exact predictions i shouldn't point to dates but it's clear that in the coming decades

a new wave of revolutions globally is likely

and they're going to be led by communists

by communist but well not necessarily by communist i don't know exactly what's going to happen in places like colombia

you ley brazil

but revolutions

o

against imperialism

of differing kinds

my most likely going to occur

so it's the duty of communists if when they get in power to do all these things the reason we can't get in power is is because of imperialism

so we just have to wait

for imperialism to collapse

and then we're going to get in power

we're going to need to play an active role in that obviously we're going to need to yeah alle with these global liberation so what does that mean in practice aligning with them they

does that mean marching outside with signs

it means not participating in the smear campaigns against them

oh so you just you don't do that's not really participating that's just

you do you also defend them

on what difference oka

and that's going to be of decisive significance

it's going

to help

it's not going to help

in what practical sense wllter tell

urning our backs in what practical sense is it going to help it's not going to help

it's going to help in the sense that it'll

better prepare us

to cooperate with these global liberation movements

i

if and when we gain power here

how are we going to gain power

we're going to sit back and wait for them right because they're going to do all the heavy lifting

basically they're going to do all the heavy lifting and then we're just going to wait for them and then it's going to happen

so the the here's my question for youg

imperialism

has existed

in the marxist sense

since the late nineteenth century

we are living in twenty twenty one now how long are you going to keep waiting

my shouldn't point to dates

i shouldn't try to make those kinds of predictions

that wouldn't be dialectical

i agree but you can see the overall point is that

nothing's just going to happen on its own

obviously we're going the reason communists are not in power

isn't because of imperialism

it's because communs are ineffective

political agents in western countries

and why is that because of the conditions

no that's not why it's not because of external conditions it's actually because of

the subjective shortcomings of the communists themselves

and no one else

i feel like that places too much responsibility on us

no you are responsible you raner sche you are the best example of this

individually of why communists fail in the west

you have just promised the meaning of communism on the basis of the deranged idea

that all of america must be destroyed

you will never win over the american people or the american masses which american people are you talking about the reactionaries who are going to be able to overcome

or the and this is the thing you do is that

you call everyone who doesn't agree with your pipe dream fantasy a reactionary and that's how you measure the meaning of that word if you don't agree with my

niche fringe view you're a reactionary

it's your job to explain to people and expound your views in such a way

that they can actually be meaningful to people

that's what i'm doing with are you succeeding of my ideas

is that what you're doing

yes no it's not

it's not going to work on everyone

it's not going to work on any decisive segment of the population that will carry you to power i promise what about the colonized peoples they're going to be the you have a type of weird slave morality where just obsessed with marginalized people for moral reasons

and not for the actual material significance they possess in the conquest of power

they do possess a great material significance because on this continent due to marginalized people due to colonized people's being

the most exploited

they're statistically going to be the most likely to make up the vanguard

yeah but you know what that is actually you're exploiting vulnerable people and it that's what cults do as well you exploit vulnerable people and make it seem like

that's going to make them into malleable objects of your political project

hilariously

the most the ones the most resentful populations or the most sorry oppressed populations in the united states

don't give a shit about fukon marxism

even the communist party tried to re reorient itself to focusing on the black population for a long time

and they fuckin failed so fckin miserably

this idea that you appeal to the most exploited and most oppressed

because that's going to make them desperate enough

to be able to buy into whatever bullshit you're selling is racist

condescending and at odds with the facts of history

because people can be starving and they're still not going to give me a shit about your fuck and pet project yet

they're going to maybe maybe you're going to find more vulnerable people

who are just going to be so desperate they're going to look for any saving grace

but as the main trend

no you're not going to fucking be able to do that

i am so sick of western communists

trying to take advantage of vulnerable people as empty vessels of their idiology

it's not going to happen dude

and the reason the proletariat by the way was the revolutionary class

wasn't actually because they were the most exploited or the most desperate

actually the most desperate and the most depressed

wasn't the proletariat it was the lump and proletariat

of course the lumpin were more oppressed than the proletariat

of course segments of the rule masses

in marx's time were way more oppressed than the working class

the working class possesses the revolutionary significance it does

not because it's the most desperate and because it's the most poor and it's the most destitute

but because it is

objectively a revolutionary class for world history it is the first class in history

that is purely defined

by the selling of its own labor

rather than the selling of a

a commodity or anything like this

it is the universal citizen and subject

of the modern state

reduced to being able to sell only their labor expounded and rendered in abstract terms pure labor labor itself

this is something unprecedented in history

abstract and generalized labor

as defining an actual class in history

thanks for defining that

my learnings but you need to understand that the proletariat

isn't wasn't a revolutionary class because it was marginal or exploited or

you know poor or desperate or whatever

it's because it was objectively a revolutionary class it had a revolutionary significance for world history

marx writes

he specifically distinguishes the proletariat

from the mass of the destitute poor that are weighing on society like a rock he says no the proletariy's not like that

the reason a proletariat because that has always existed there's always been a

mass of poor

you know

people that comprise the majority of society that to way out down like it

in his introduction to the

i think it was hegel's

u

critique of hegel's pilosopy right

he writes that the proletariat is an ingenious soil of the people that

rather than a mass

of a

the poor are weighing down on society on one side

it's a class that the

as a unique

significance

m

although being a minority at the time of the population

you know disproportionate amount of the proletariat in this country are colonized peoples

disproportionate amount of laborst i don't think i don't think listen i think the word proletarian because of the new left which was a cultural revolution

turned into the oppressed

the these two became synonymous

the proletariat doesn't just mean this

supre oppressed

and the reason it's hard to really define the proletariat in america

is because our state

and the state of every modern country in the twenty first century pretty much

has evolved to such an extent

that there is no class whatsoever

that only sells its own labl

labor is now conditioned by a special relationship with the state whether you want to call it the welfare state

or

the social state whatever we call this

the premises

of the economic existence of the working class

are political now

they're taken in the form of the state that their staff citizens

they have certain benefits

there's a certain regulatory significance of the state that ensures a specific

economic

ah conditions of

e

selling of labor like for example

federal minimum wages and cat

you know standards as far as the regulation of

companies in thetreatment of workers

all sorts of regulations that just define the fabric

of economic life that premises our existence

so we don't really have

the proletariat of marki his time

to speak of the proletariat has evolved into a kind of workers citizen class

in each and every state and country

there' is no pure proletara anywhere in the world

there is no class that is only selling its labels

so the s the categories of oppressed

and proletariat certainly intersect to a great extent agre i agree

i agree but that's you have to understand marxism is about a scientific view of reality and by scientific i just mean

it's not about just a purely subjective and moral stance about reality it means to also address objective realities

not just purely moral ones

there' is also an intersection between what

dialectriical materialism demands and what morality demands

i mean look at the argument that

the

reactionaries as in the pro perialist the pro capitalists have

for preserving

the established order

that they

fright to ot you skate morality

the the the revolutionaries

are definitely morally superior to them

and i what does that have to do with what we're talking about the dialectical materialism and morality

oh

all it has to do with

the mandate the moral mandate

and i know you don't like the word moral where do you find this on dialectical materialism

dialectical materialism

ow

what marxism leninism calls for

correlates so much with what morality

calls for it's imoral

to liberate the majority of the people

the proletariat

from wll in what writings do you find this view of morality

according to marx and angels and

lenin and other maox is lminius

what i'm saying is that

my

a

motor

the motivating force between behind why i'm a marxist why i study these writings yeah is because i i feel there's a moral need

to li but that's that has nothing to do with that would be

so

that's basically

not only is that not marxist

it's actually quite infantile it's almost religious it's

even pre philosophical

morks came from the background of

german idealism and hagelian philosophy

so morality is not the privileged site of of

what motivates our developments subjectively

the ideas i have do not come from the privilege they come from the very least privilege you get people who have had their land stolen the people who've been screwed over

by settler colonialism

you know what i find

so tiring

is that you

just ignore what i say and you just jump on every

attempt you get

to just spew moral indignation and i think in a laconian sense you enjoy it

almost like a a do in the sense of sexual gratification like you enjoy this moral indignation

and it just satisfies you in some kind of way

did you know that what i said all i said

was that morality is not the privileged site of the development of the subject

and you immediately interpreted my words to talk about

privileged

ways of life are

privileged statuses

it's just o it sounds like i'm not

all that learned in the in this lingo that you're

about

so if i jumped on that and misinterpreted that then

i guess i should have been more

measured but

my my points still stand my points about the need to liberate

a these hundreds of indigenous nations yeah but from thisen you're talking about empt you're talking about empty phrases which mean nothing how are you going to

what does liberation mean how are you going to do it what is its

practical significance you're just

virtue signaling is what you're doing your virtue signalling in a vacuum of moral virtue signaling your

in you're shouting for you're just talking about phrases of thank you so much jackson appreciate your time thank you so much you just talking about like you know

h liberation and freedom and you know

imperialism it's like

you realize that the significance of your words is to give you pleasure and not to actually

signify anything real

right it's just

a way for you to

be gratified subjectively

this the theft of the land is very real well you i just you just gratified yourself when you said that

it's almost as if you're

you're touching yourself while you're playing

wll you're talking

and i'm not

i'm not masturbating right now i'm having a discussion but you're basically masturbating could you just

saying things that

only have significance to subjectively gratify

you're kind of like

beautiful soul unhappy consciousness and

you know you're

h

acute sense of moral indignation

it's very righteous moral indignation and has some does it feel good does it feel good

whle it does it does feel good too

tright so i think i don't you think that you should weigh

between feeling good and what you're actually doing in reality because i think you're putting the feeling good over the

actual reality when it comes to reality it takes two to tangle it sounds like you just masturbate by yourself

instead of bringing in a dose of reality

you can't just feel good

you also have to

men up to the reality

right

you i can't just like sit there and feel good about your morality that's all you're doing is just

making yourself feel good you're not actually like

interacting with reality in a

decisive or meaningful way

people need to man up to the reality that this land morals oralty i goment that the reality that

the land is stolen and that

the world is immoral the world is the world of

total depravity in that

we need to acknowledge corected

we need to yeah we need to acknowledge all of the evil and sickness around us and that's the first path to

redemption in the salvation right it's calvinism

i'm glad i have this discussion i need to

go so that i can

write my next article which will be an anti colonial polemic

that draws the analogy between

the israeli occupation and the occupation

on this continent if you can't you can't draw that analogy because one is about

some absolute moral morality in relation to the whole past and everything another one is about

what's actually going on in the present sense

and a real conflict

and also the is the israeli palestinian conflict is not premised

by the good graces of people like you and morality

the israeli palestinian conflict is actual real world historical conflict

so is the conflict between

no it is not nations no it is not there is no world historical conflict

between indigenous people and the entirety of the united states right now

no

what

i i don't i don't know exactly what you're saying but

there is no conflict between indigenous people and the u s government that calls into question the entire existence of the united states

outside of that certain american arguing or in this article that's what i'm going to be arguing for you gd you can materially it's not true

materially it's not true

i am going to be arguing for that too

it's been nice talking i'm going to go now but i don't i don't know what you can argue for that you couldn't

explain here

goodbye

okay how does anyone follow that guy it's so weird like how does anyone foll that guy's like

he doesn't know anything about marxism like

he's like a

how much follows does he have on twitter

missing

raynard shaw

sixteen k

you are so stupid dodue

this yell is so stupid it's like

you' really just follow anyone

he gets sixteen k followers how

um

whore the farck is this guy

thatd along has fallen

alright um

fun

who' is this guy

he has me blocks with the foot

oh he's in a c pusa

they're all protecting their tweets and like

the beleading their threads it's so weird

so weird

alright guys i uh

streamed way longer than i expected

way longer than i expected

um

so you guys tomorrow

and

hold on

i really have to go

work out

what have boss hea

yeah we should take some time

um

who the fuck is this

um

i'm really upset that we couldn't

do halloween content

you know we have a first step

luck i really don't want to deal with fok in more drama

so

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yeah

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some msses

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alright um

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yeah

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