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damn dude

that's rough it's rough

i don't know why i woke up at four

though cause i went to bed at six so i

should have woke up at two

but um

another i'm gonna give you the bad news

first then we're gonna get into the

positivity right because i gotta get off

my chest so i looked i was checking my

grades last night i was like staying up

stressing out and shit

so i looked at what i got on my midterm

my midterm exam for one of my classes

and to be fair i didn't study for it

and i like you we had a day to do the

midterm it was like online and so i

didn't study i got cocky i was like i'll

just you know it's open no whatever

and keep in mind i'm not going to

classes you know i'm not even going to

classes but

so i'm just preparing this so that when

you guys make fun of me i can have a

response because it's really

embarrassing okay

so

i looked at the grades

and it shows all of the grades in the

class

okay it shows all the grades in the

class

and it's anonymous you we have a student

id and it just shows your id and nobody

knows your ideas so they show all the

grades in the class okay

i don't need to tell you

i have to tell someone though because

this is why

it resulted in this because of streaming

okay

so i have to tell someone you guys know

i don't have friends so

you know i'm gonna tell you guys

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i got

the lowest score in the class

on that final

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and they ranked it

like 11 to 27 is the highest score and

11 is the lowest

and i got 10.

i was outside of the map

i still passed it got a c minus because

the curve and shit but

wow guys damn you know

but i'm i got to be careful because i've

been

i've been like too you know cocky about

because last semester i just made me

cocky last semester is like i barely did

work i barely went to class and i still

got two b's

and like two c pluses

but i've been getting cocky and shit and

i've just not been doing any work pretty

much besides the stuff that you have to

turn in

for credit but if let's say worst case

scenario i get all c minuses

i can take that like i can um my gpa

will handle it and i won't be in trouble

with the school

but if i get anything below one c minus

i get kicked out it's over you know so

pretty tense pretty tense situation

but you know what guys i'm gonna be real

with you

i know it's a fucking gamble i know it's

a gamble but i genuinely believe in this

more than law school okay

i know it's fucking crazy whatever

but

no don't no i am gonna risk it because

i genuinely do not believe in law school

like i don't just the situation in

america right now

you know the the state of the market for

lawyers

and a bunch of other things just law

school was always just this kind of

safety cushion to allow me

to do the things i really do want to do

which is like right

and do shit like this

and

i mean okay laws are going to be around

but

the the way it works with lawyer

there's going to be a big technology

change and yeah there's going to be an

overhaul of the

the legal system of some kind

it's so outdated if you if you knew

if you knew how laws worked in america

you would know how fucking outdated it

is you know it's just a very simple

point

i'm not saying this is like some

ideological type of thing like i from a

pragmatic perspective like if i was

gonna bet money on it i genuinely

don't have faith

in pursuing it

um shit

yeah

but that's just the bad news the good

news is that

we're here

i woke up at four i barely had any time

you know to to even i did prepare for

the stream we're gonna have content

today don't worry it's gonna be a nice

stream

but you know

yeah so how's your guys's day how did

your day go

oh yeah i did have a good okay there's

one highlight of my day today

i went to walgreens to get razors

because i ran out of razors

and

chick-fil-a was right next to it i got a

fried chicken sandwich and a grilled

chicken sandwich and large fries

and a fruit cup and it was a very good

meal

i'm not even kidding it was a highlight

of my day so far you know highlight of

the day so far

um did i go to the gym today no i do

that after these streams

but weirdly enough

at my apartment gym for some fucking

reason i keep forgetting to call them

they took out the um

what do you even call them anymore

the chairs the gym chairs they're called

benches what are they called

they're not called benches are they

because a bench requires the uh those

are benches so they took those out you

know there was only two they took them

out

so it's been awkward you know i gotta

figure out how to replace those because

those are really important for my uh my

workouts and they just fucking removed

them

yeah

it's uh

pretty shitty

i think why do people just fuck things

up for you those two benches were fine

why'd you take them out it takes way

more work to take them out than to just

leave them there but whatever you know

whatever

but you know i'm looking forward to the

sun

the last final boss

more or less the last final boss

for me my personal life is gonna be

not this saturday the saturday after

that it's when my final paper is due for

this class that's been giving me a pain

in my fucking ass when i finish that

paper and i get that done

oh fuck then i have finals shit

damn well when i'm done with those

finals i don't even know when they are

i'm telling you guys

the the streaming the power level is

gonna be

through the roof it's gonna be off the

charts okay the level of content you're

gonna start seeing

way better than this okay wait i mean

this is still good i think i mean to me

i don't know but

this summer's gonna be beautiful guys or

whatever late late spring whatever early

mid spring whatever it's gonna be

beautiful we're gonna have irl streams

and um we're gonna you know go outside

be in the sun

and

i'm gonna get there's gonna be more

creativity i already told you guys about

that thing i was planning

where i want to bring

network with uh other twitch

uh

channels

small ones you know because we can't be

too ambitious you know but small ones

and

to put together a fun show because not

like you know the raj or whatever but

our own thing you know

because i really loved our shrimp trial

i fucking had a blast and i i i even

love watching it you know i don't have

time but

i love watching it

yeah

if you dream 24 6

yeah i think i'm gonna be streaming 24

not 24 6 but six days a week and then

one day out of the week i'm going to

take that week day off and i'm going to

use that day to

write and plan

actually i could

not write but i can plan because i can

write you know before i stream or after

i stream

so

guys i do have writings to attend to

that i've been neglecting

ever since i started streaming i just

put them on hold i gotta get back to

those writings you know

hold on i don't like this song

sorry okay maybe do less streams and

more time making editing content

i wish dude

no i don't think so i think we're gonna

start

having people

be our editors

and once we start monetizing we'll find

a way to compensate whoever we find is a

you know a um

a regular editor for the show

i really want to you know streamline

that whole editing process to make sure

that we you know

we have

regular youtube stuff coming out because

right now the youtube is pretty uh

tumbleweed you know there's nothing

going on on youtube

so we're gonna start i have some stuff

i'm gonna release for the youtube too

you know so we need to we need to use

that youtube because the youtube is kind

of let me be real with you guys the

youtube's not growing that fast

um but that's our fault you know it's

our fault

um

okay yeah and then later in the stream

today i think we're gonna have some

collins and the reason we're gonna have

collins is because i just installed the

feature well this isn't the reason but

it'll help check this out guys so when

you when we go when i go into the uh

the show channel

look at this

see this

look at the corner right here see this

i always wanted that you know i found

out how to do it and

it's gonna make it a lot easier you know

to to have people on

so

including people from the show like the

other infrared people

so yeah that's that's some good news too

um

you know there's not gonna be any gaming

tonight

and uh we're gonna go through

some news we're gonna watch biden's

press conference

and uh other stuff we have a lot of

stuff lined up and planned tonight and

i'm looking forward to it

but

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okay

well

what do we do in the beginning of the

streams guys i forgot what do we do

first my memory stop kidding we check

the reddit okay we check

the reddit okay

let's do this

wow i'm

on

i'm on chrome let me exit out of chrome

because chrome is dangerous chrome

crashes my string when i have it up

uh let's check this reddit

damn 774

we're nearing that 800 mark

um firefox yeah but firefox is like you

guys don't have like a ton of blogs

right so i need like the different

browsers to be logged into the different

wordpresses and firepro firefox is using

one of my

like i have a bunch of tabs for my blog

post for firefox

i can't believe i'm talking about this

shit you guys will never even see them

you'll never even know what those blogs

are

but i'm just gonna be real with you when

i get another pc

because i'm gonna keep this one

when i get that new pc

that's when i'll be able to optimize our

streaming to the max we'll be able to

use fucking chrome for streaming you

know or whatever works best

and i'll just keep all of my important

work on this computer and i'll i mean

like my personal work and then the the

streaming will be

this pc will be all for streaming and

gaming and shit like that you know

all right let's just let's get right to

it

775 wow

so

what do i think of this aesthetic

wow this hit all the way to the top so

clearly it's very popular but i'm gonna

say something really unpopular then um

i i don't dig it i don't like it

um

and i hate to disappoint but i kind of

went over it live stream you know our

aesthetic

is very much not focused on pastiche and

it's very much focused on ultra realism

to me this strikes me as very pastiche

this reminds me of like the 50s

or the 60s futurism right

so it's very pastiche to me it's like uh

it's it's 2d it's drawn

which isn't by itself bad but

it's not quite you know what we're

aiming for

i mean it doesn't look bad but it's not

quite the aesthetic where

i stop saying hauntology i hate that

it's not what i'm

you don't have to get that deep into it

okay i just don't like pastiche it's a

cool picture but it's not our aesthetic

i hate to be brutally honest but yeah

but i'll still upvote it you know

yeah look forward not backward yeah i

agree with that

that's my view too exactly my view

no comment necessary

nice

i've seen this image before

this is such a cool image

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big people energy makes small peepee

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this is a nice image i love it

are you going on nimbo tonight

why would i

no what do you mean

there's oh today's thursday

oh

yeah today's thursday i forgot no i'm

i'm not gonna be going on

um

yeah

let me see this

on we can

pause this fuck times i'm being hurt by

the stupid gusanos from from miami i am

being hurt by the um by the uh by the

falun gong that's who's hurting me

that's who has been driving the the the

welfare state to be eroded in this

country pushing all these right-wing

policies telling people all kinds of

made-up stupid stories about communism

so evil you know fidel castro ate little

babies for dinner every day i saw it i

was there you can't argue with me i saw

it i saw it that's that's the problem we

have in america this is the problem we

have in america you know i say that we

let we let all those hungry kids from

guatemala and honduras into the country

and we deport all the miami gusanos we

let them go back to cuba to deal with

fidel castro we deport all the falun

gong people we send them back to china

so the chinese communists can deal with

them we deport all of the the afghan you

know terrorists who were you know you

know trying to you know we're working

with osama bin laden against the soviet

union we deport all the chechen

separatists why don't we deport all the

right-wing scum that the cia has

imported into america why don't we why

don't we deport them right that's what i

want to that's what that's what i want

to do if i was president there would be

a big immigration crackdown it wouldn't

be on the border it would be in miami uh

it would be in the the right wing uh the

right-wing neighborhoods it would be at

the epoch times it would be at the

washington times that's where that's

where the deportations would take place

there would be a mass mass crackdown on

immigration if i was president but it

wouldn't be against hard-working people

who just want to come here and have a

job it would be against right-wingers

and fanatics who have been you know

destroying our country pushing austerity

economics you know waging war against

our labor unions driving our wages down

uh you know pushing for deregulation

making a situation where our roads are

crumbling where our schools are falling

apart we got prisons for profit these

people believe in free market insanity

right and and and

yeah i mean um i think this is actually

really intelligent optics and the reason

is because

you know the whole in america at least

you know the whole open borders meme

um

it's it's really harmful for leftists

and people aren't necessarily xenophobic

but

they want to feel like there's some

measure of sovereign sovereignty you

know over the country

so this is really good optics you know

like

um instead of you know deporting

hard-working innocent people

you know what i mean like

it's uh

it's good optics i think you know i mean

yeah not too complicated but people

still need to know be educated more

about

you know the the

how some of those groups are used by the

us

against other countries and stuff

but overall it's it's good optics i

think i think it's smart

how long is this

this is 20

minutes um

i just want to like see the visuals

we're not going to watch this whole

thing though but i just want to check

this out this is beautiful wow

i wish americans can just see this you

know i wish you could just see this

i mean

i know you can't go there but just look

at this dude this is

this is something new you know

wow wait look at these boats i love this

i love these boats i love this look

ready

this dude i fucking love this dude this

is beautiful

china's transitions towards soul this is

absolutely beautiful dude

these fucking boats

is new and never before seen dude i

would love to be on this

on top of this new approach the cpc

admitted that this will take an

extremely long time for a socialist and

communist society to come wow can you

imagine being there guys that's fucking

crazy

coming to full fruition while

introducing

i markets

admittedly a lot of asia is like this

but

still

sure we would all like a great modern

communist country but what does that

actually mean how does one plant

this is a cool video i've been noticing

though that this channel kind of and

this is kind of ironic for some of the

content i have lined up later but i feel

like we focus a little too much on china

you know and we have to start paying

attention to

america you know we can't just keep we

want to learn from china we want to you

know educate people about it 100

but we can't only do that you know we

have to focus on the problems we're

facing here on the ground you know

um

you what's you

what happened

um

yeah we can't

yeah

what is this

no no no no

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dude shout out hussain the second

barbara pitt

that guy makes really funny videos

that's what he reminded me of

music to their ears they don't know that

the third world is

parenti's really based

okay i'm gonna say something really mean

not mean but just ignorant

is he still he is alive okay he's just

87

he's 87 years old wow

wow dude he's 87 years old damn

i haven't heard anything of him but i'm

sure he's uh

you know he's retired

at this point he looks better than

chomsky good for him man good for him

i hope he

yeah

cp usa vision 2036.

this is nice but this isn't 2036. this

is uh

this is 19

this is uh 1978. this is what people

thought 1978 would look like in 1958

so this is not c 2036 you got to get it

right you know

ma if you keep saying hauntology i ban

you okay i'm just kidding i'm not going

to ban you but

stop it triggers me

um

infrared research facility

i don't know what this means but i dig

it you know i i dig this

i dig it

i dig it

i dig this you have any thoughts on who

was right

during the bath party split between half

essence

i don't think in that case it's a matter

of right or wrong i think it's a case of

genuine i don't know enough about it i

think it's the whole thing with the

it was genuine differences between those

countries but i don't know enough about

it epi genetic

nice

will infrared take the jim jones

no dude come on come on dude chill

this is the first thing that continues

on mass suicide the desire to avoid

death is one of the strongest desires in

human beings obviously group suicide can

happen but are we supposed to believe

that over 900 people killed themselves

knowingly in mass

oh okay i don't know i don't know i mean

uh i'll have to investigate it i guess

but

i thought you're gonna be like

something else but

it's questioning the narrative of what

happened

i don't know i don't know anything about

it i'd have to look into it you know i

don't

i don't know a damn thing about

you know the whole i know very

superficially what happened

um

wow that's

pyongyang this is really nice

photography

wow

it looks really nice

what a well-armed

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based

please

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i did not see that coming

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based

anarchist reading reading how loza

luxembourg described democracy

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i don't think people realize that

a lot of american leftists have tried to

like make rosa luxemburg like the d like

oh i'm a luxembourgist because you know

they want to be

progressive or whatever but

rosa luxembourg was pretty hardcore i

mean she was she was not like

a libertarian by any means you know so

i don't know why people have tried to

like turn her into a disney princess

when she was you know

she was not somebody to be fucked with

you know

but i guess that's what american

leftists do you know

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in the 1950s a national questionnaire

explained exactly what a pedophile was

each man in britain was asked if he

thought he was one

have you seen the review of dugan's

written debate with olivo de

carvalho

no i haven't i haven't uh seen it

um but it's written it's a written

debate wow

i don't know if that's streaming

material but yeah send it to me and i'll

check it out individually

one

92 percent said yes

short passage from lousy

to no one yet to

whenever you guys send me things that i

have to like actually think about and

appreciate

i have to skip it because it's like

it's just not streamable

uh

will you give me the iranian revolution

an irgc deep state pill

there is a book i'm working on which is

about the state

and when that's done i might just

release it publicly you know because

it's it

a lot is in there you know a lot is in

there so i might just

release that like on behalf of infrared

but i'll have to check with

our people

has criticizing zoom am i a zoomer i fee

i always heard that my age was in

between millennials and zoomers

but i don't think i'm a zoomer dude i

don't like when i look at tick tock i

just don't understand it you know i'm

i'm i don't know

it's a millennial

i'm a young i'm a i'm a young millennial

okay that's it and a spiritual boomer

no i'm a young millennial fuck it

nick landon first of biden

thanks for the follow man

is the let's just blow shit well shit

dude let's go

i never see the day where we cover this

account on stream

um

what

this is true honestly it is

locked yeah i mean it's simplistic

general strike is not the be-all end-all

of you know what gets changes things

this guy's a hit or miss a lot of times

he's he says kind of

dumb things but

sometimes he says smart what is he

saying about this simultaneous

antagonizing china

he's kind of okay this is something

about nick land

land is based most of the time when it

comes to foreign policy when it comes to

matters of the you american unipolar

world order he's pretty based

um

i can say that much

poorest city

in america circa 2036

come on dude

no 2036 is when the the parties reform

or reforged it's not when

the country changes

the jewish labor bond political prisoner

what is that

hello comrades welcome back to the

channel this is a bit long but uh looks

cool

it's a bit long though

for the stream i mean i'm not

brainwashed they are

nice

all right let's check it out

you guys always you guys always want me

to beef with these people

let's check out what he says

moving forward to the question of

chinese imperialism using lenin's

criteria from imperialism the highest

stage of capitalism chapter seven

uh those famous flight criteria that

then cargoes

before we get into that if we want to

discuss whether or not this or that

country is imperialist it's first

important for us to have a concrete

understanding of what it is that we mean

by imperialism or capitalist imperialism

so let's take a moment to provide our

understanding of

imperialism that's the highest state of

capitalism

the present near it let me tell you

something

during lenin's time

there's no such thing as an imperialist

versus a non-imperialist country okay

lenin was describing imperialism as a

world system

which all countries that were involved

in the manifold of global capitalism

were a part of it whether they were you

know

yeah

but the key thing was always political

sovereignty i mean

if you read lenin's the right

of nations to self-determination

he writes that the linchpin

is

uh political sovereignty a separate

state

you know that's the linchpin of

the revolutionary bourgeoisie

in the age of imperialism

is the monopoly capitalist or

imperialist stage of capitalism

imperialism in the modern sense is

capitalist imperialism the modern stage

of capitalism all capitalist ruling

classes in this era function within the

world imperialist system and sees all of

the world's wealth and resources they're

able to however the bourgeoisie

including its alliance in some cases

with feudal landlord class

okay i think the big pill people need to

take in general is

that are you guys ready for this pill or

no

imperialism is not enough to describe

the situation today okay in general it's

just not enough

this is we're in a new stage today we're

in a new stage what that means

i'll leave that for you to decide

but if imperialism is the highest stage

of capitalism and we're in a stage

beyond that

i'll let you guys fill in the blanks you

know i don't know if you're ready for

this pill but

in most countries it's far too weak

internationally to exercise significant

imperialist control over other countries

or to organize significant economic

exploitation of them

in a few countries however the ruling

bourgeoisie is far stronger and has

quite a free hand to bus around other

countries and or to economically exploit

them to a considerable degree these are

the countries that we call imperialist

countries so while while capitalist

countries indeed participate in this

global system of capitalist imperialism

there are certain countries that have a

disproportionately large amount of power

which they use in order to dominate

within this system in imperialism the

highest stage of capitalism then it

gives us five main criteria for

measuring and understanding this

phenomenon so let's go through them now

in chapter seven lenin states that we

must give a basic definition of

imperialism that will include the

following five of its basic features one

the concentration of production and

capital has developed to such a high

stage that that has created monopolies

which play a decisive role in the

conflict but he wasn't defining a

criteria with which to

interpret which countries are

imperialist or not he was trying to

define a historical era

i think you know he's not he doesn't

have a he doesn't have it wasn't like a

u.n

a u.n inspector's checklist to say

you're going to go to the country are

you imperialist or not oh okay you know

like it's not

two the merging of bank capital with

industrial capital and the creation on

the basis of this finance capital of a

financial oligarchy

three the export of capital is

distinguished from the export of

commodities acquires exceptional

importance four the formation of

international monopolist capitalist

associations would share the world among

themselves and five the territorial

division of the whole world among the

biggest capitalist powers is completed

yeah the the problem is the fifth one

the problem is really the fifth one

china is not

vying to divide other countries for

itself you know

so let's take each of these points one

by one that's that's probably just like

right off the bat it doesn't work but

again

i mean the the five points were about a

specific historical era and by the way

uh paul morin whatever

lennon said this was the highest stage

of capitalism which means socialism is

going to inherit things that look

superficially

fit this criteria like the

centralization

um

apparent you know monopoly whatever but

it's it's all confused

up in the air and ambiguous anyway

because

you could say china has

monopolies but you could also say that

those monopolies correspond to more

decentralization and more breaking up of

industries so

the the era of one let's just

regardless of what we think about the

era of imperialism

let's just say the era of one-sidedness

is uh like in the dumpster bin it

doesn't fucking work to do you can't

understand anything about the world if

you think in a one-sided way and you

think in terms of black and white

because

especially when it comes to countries

like china you know it just doesn't work

dude

and see if they apply to china so that

we can arrive at a concrete conclusion

that's whether or not modern china is an

imperialist okay this is stupid though

because lenin wasn't applying it to

individual countries in a vacuum he was

describing a specific era of capitalism

this is this is the opposite of lenin's

approach to i mean lenin specifically

always was dichotomizing

abstract you know definitions with

concrete historical analysis and he said

as much

for example in his po in his i just read

it yesterday again the right of nations

to self-determination his book or his

work

um

he specifically distinguishes

between the materialist and dialectic

approach and this kind of approach

you're coming from

you know which is

trying to just apply

principles and qualities in a vacuum

uh in this indus you know it doesn't

work

okay can i go on a small rant a little

bit on western leftists

let me go on a small rank can i

i'm really frustrated at this fact that

western leftists think that because

they're living in the west where

everything's evil anyway

that they're they're already pure that

they already occupy a position of purity

so they can go and look at other

socialist countries

like they're uh they're going on a

shopping spree and they're like hmm i

don't know you did bad things you did

bad things you did bad things

you're not pure enough you're not pure

enough you're not pure enough

i think i'll pass

i'm fine where i am

and and

it's this weird protestant theology

where it's like they accept that they

live in a circumstance of total

depravity but the fact that for example

that there might be contradictions in

china and there might be contradictions

in cuba or other countries they take

that as a warrant to say that oh well

it's all the same then there's no

difference then there's nothing to be

learned there's nothing to be garnered

there's no actual authentic socialistic

developments going on

it's just as bad as you know this

capitalist imperial corps that i'm

living in i think i'll pass no thank you

but here's the difference between you

and those countries those countries

throw themselves into the thick

of actually having skin in the game and

actually participating in the con you

know construction and development of

socialism with all the contradictions

struggles hardships

and

you know um obstacles that are gonna

come with that you're this kind of pasty

white lily white

beautiful soul pure person who's living

in the west who doesn't have any fucking

skin in the game and only defines

themselves based on the opposing

everything around them they have skin in

the game and yeah when you have skin in

the game you're gonna get dirt on your

hands and you're gonna be dealing with

contradictions and shit

you know that's how it is but you it's

like they're in the pool they're

swimming and you know you're trying to

critique their form while they're

swimming but you're still on land you're

not even dipping your fucking toes in

the water you're still on fucking dry

land oh one day i'll go in the water but

i'll only go in the water as soon as

it's absolutely perfect too

as soon as it's i feel it it's

absolutely perfect to go in the water no

you go in the fucking water

and you fucking do your best you know

because the dry land that you're on now

the water levels are rising

you're not going to have a fucking

choice

swim to you know somewhere else

but you want to stay on your dry land

while the water is rising um

no i think i'll pass

i think i'll pass what what ground do

you stand on

who are you to fucking judge anyone

i don't fucking understand there's like

there's two types of look you know

you could you don't have to just apply

this to politics you can literally apply

this to anything in life there's two

types of people

the type of person

who

shuns the world

just because there's problems in the

world you can okay you know what

as all those leftists who i'm talking

about they are the in-cells of the left

it's literally like in seldom i'll tell

you why because

when you seek when you when you try to

talk i'm going to speak as a man i'm not

speaking for everybody in the world i'm

just speaking as a man when you go out

and you talk to women

you're going to fail they're going to

reject you

you're going to be embarrassed you're

going to be humiliated maybe you know

it's not gonna work out you're gonna you

know there's gonna be all sorts of

problems

but you wanna know the the guys who

who uh you know

they um

how do i say this politely

they go home happy

they're the ones who just throw

themselves in the thick of it say fuck

it you know throw themselves in the

thick of it and yeah they take all that

rejection they don't let it get to them

you know they go they deal with it but

these incels out here oh i'm too ugly i

i don't have the right chin structure i

don't have the right qualities

and uh

i hate all women they're all like you're

such a fucking in you know like it's the

same shit it's literally the same

fucking shit it's the exact same fucking

thing we're talking about right now you

know

they're the in-cells of the left it's

like dude

have you ever heard the phrase better

than nothing you throw yourself into the

thick of it

there's going to be a lot of

hardship and

imperfection and contradictions and

struggle but that's the only

way you're you're doing anything

you get with the program and throw

yourself into the thick of it

by being this fucking detached in cell

you're just rotting away

as a fucking loser for the rest of your

life you know

but

um

yeah that's that's the end of this rant

okay let's continue

oh this is fareed zakaria he's actually

not that bad

i don't say this lightly but this clip

that i'm about to show you

is

probably the best clip i've ever seen

on cnn

cnn generally does horrendous work

horrendous work they have wolf blitzer

on 84 hours in the day where he

regurgitates robot talking points he's

never made an interesting or

controversial or edgy point in his life

um he's a clown virtually every host

has brain worms and they're partisan

hacks or they serve these dude kyle

he's one of the most stylish people in

the game

he's got the most drip in the game

his hair is always on point

and you know what i'm saying at the risk

of whatever sounding this is a handsome

dude i'm not gonna lie this is just a

gent naturally handsome dude you know

so

yeah

here's why i respect kyle because i

could tell he's stuck in the mid 2000s

because that's when he that's probably

when he was in high school and shit he

grew up

and he don't give a fuck this is an og

dude this is an og

they're just

incredibly uninteresting i can criticize

them all day long and i do i mean that's

half of my job is to criticize cnn and

mainstream media

but what you're about to see here this

might be the first time ever we're

covering a cnn clip and it's like

there's no caveats no hedges all right

this is too long but i'm sure this is a

great video

this is the truth it doesn't really

matter who's who's president the line is

always going in a certain way you know

um

i heard about this i don't even know

when to show this on stream

is this real i don't know if it's real

is it even real

i heard it uh i heard it wasn't real i

don't know

i'm not one of those people who spreads

lies you know it's fake yeah

i thought i think it's kind of fake too

but i don't know if it's real that's

fucking crazy but

yeah

guys i one thing i'll never be is i'll

never be a liar you know these people

lie about me all the time i'll never lie

dude this is like my worst enemy i'll

never even lie about them you know

but

so you've accepted

that's good

first though i have something you should

see this dub is not good

master hua's murderer

[Music]

yeah exactly we don't need to lie about

the dude you know we don't need to make

up lies like what we know for fact is

already enough you know

that's on record

[Music]

jennifer do you really hate

twitch that much is it really that much

worse

you know what the problem with twitches

though granted

the problem with twitch is that

um because i'm not partnered

you don't like twitch either oh come on

guys

you guys are making me feel bad

um

i'll try to work something out guys i'll

try to see what i can do because i read

today that youtube also has a membership

thing you know

so i'll i'll see i'll check it out you

know but i i don't think it's as easy to

sub to youtube as it is to twitch

but

guys i appreciate it a lot i'm really

sorry about that i know a lot of you

guys preferred youtube

and you know

we still have the youtube chat so any if

we you know ever decide to start

streaming on youtube we will you know

but um

yeah i know twitch is like a new

environment

and

yeah no partner on both platforms oh

shit and dono's from other platform

then you can do a stream

i you can't do a stream if you're an

affiliate on twitch though i haven't um

done i haven't signed i haven't done the

affiliate stuff i haven't like given

them

my account and anything everything yet

but i might do it this week but i'm

still kind of conflicted you know

you keep

oh shit it's the yeah exactly yeah it's

the um

it's the fact that they force it to be

1080p

actually i might start streaming at 720p

and that'll 100

i guarantee it'll solve

that buffering problem i'll just have to

start streaming at 720p but you can't

like decide

which

rate to stream at

because um

you have to be partnered for that but i

could start doing it at 720p

and i'm sure that will solve all of

these the issues

720p standard streaming yeah i'm kind of

a fucking idiot i'm sorry

i just did i did

1080 because i'm like let's be high

quality you know but i realized

yeah i'm sorry

this is sick

this is

my thumbnails are my biggest obstacle i

don't not every thumbnail needs to be

unique anymore we need an industrial

production of thumbnails

and i need to edit

more

to make more vids and then i'll pump out

videos on youtube every day

or every week

until we have an industrial production

of thumbnails

yeah don't worry don't don't worry about

this don't send thumbnails we'll we'll

we're going to figure it out you know

we're going to do we're going to

internally we have

yeah we're going to do it

don't worry about it guys the like we're

one of i think

we're one of the only communities where

you guys have genuinely

actually helped us so much with like

when whenever we needed a thumbnail or

anything

and other stuff even the whole video

like gent

jetty made that whole video about sansa

yeah

i think would work i will jennifer next

stream the next stream we have is going

to be 720p don't worry

um i'm going to make sure

you know we don't have

yeah shout out gentee dude i still

am very grateful for what he did

uh multiple destroyers were swarmed by

mysterious drones that this is the new

thing

uh

drone swarm warfare not a lot of people

know about that

super interesting

chris hedges explained no

already saw this

um

let's look at what's new

two types of leftists you guys keep

comparing me to this guy

not this guy fuck matt christman trump

and other prominent members of his

administration are announcing to us that

they intend to commit a coup in the

united states

so

i wanted to talk about honest to god

this is what i would look like

this is what i'll look like in like 10

years

dude i'm just going to go bald but i am

going to have this hairline

100 i will

but i'll just go bald you know

something today i wanted to talk about

i want to talk about what i heard from a

friend this isn't a uh fancy you know a

frivolous use of language a friend who

heard it from another trumpet stealing

the election

[Music]

they have been broadcasting their

intentions now for quite some time

and it is clear to me now don't become a

doomer like matt is he's a millennial

dude

what up great gaddafi

it's crazy to see you uh

it's lisandro what the fuck what's up

dude

he's here we are

committed

to the following flight

and i can't believe it

and i can't conceive

cause we're under the gun that drops

dude i love this song i this oh my god

dude don't make me get nostalgic and

shit

this is my michigan

fucking summer song like this is what

plays on the radio in the summer of

michigan

when you go up north and shit

you want lakes

and i can't believe it

you're taking me on and then taking on

the run

you take it on the run baby

cause i don't believe it

you're taking them out when you take it

on the run

dude i love that song

i don't like 80s songs but i like that

one

because it just reminds me of michigan

you think there's a problem with the

modern left

it's not that they try to be the owl of

minerva it's that they

they try to shoot the owl

they try to shoot the owl wherever they

see it

yeah or they try to yeah they try to

capture the owl they try to catch the

owl

who's cm

who's cm again am i stupid

cm who is that

oh caleb

shit

i thought i thought because they were

talking about something else because i

thought caleb was saying confirm they

are racist but

see him okay okay i understand

nice

okay i think that's it for the reddit

let's get right

into the news

how about that guys

let's get right

into the news

so i was deciding what we should um

check out first

because we have a few things

um thanks for the transcript by the way

i just got it

we have a few things um

the first thing is obviously we gotta

watch this

this news conference

wow what the fuck hold on

let me add this to the queue hold on

let's uh

let's kind of not

do too much news because we want to have

on stream

call-ins you know we want to bring

people on

but we're going to have to limit the

time you know we're going to limit it to

like five to ten minutes so we can get

enough people

um

first news conference wow

we're gonna watch the fox one because

it's the first one oh thank you thank

you

is there a highlights actually let me

see if there's a highlights because i

don't want to watch all in an hour

highlights

key moments okay

it's only three minutes i don't know if

i trust msm to like give us

the juicy highlights

okay we're gonna watch

tucker because tucker will be hard on

him so we're gonna watch tucker's

coverage good evening and welcome to

tucker carlson tonight

and then after tucker's we're gonna

watch the other highlights so we can get

you know a balanced perspective joe

biden finally gave his first press

conference this afternoon no president

has ever waited this long to answer joe

biden

joe okay

joe biden wake up

joe

biden wake up

this is message from muhammad khalakhin

joe biden

wake up

joe

biden wake up

i want to bring him on stream

i want to bring him on stream

so questions in public and as of just

yesterday we were not still entirely

sure it would happen a reporter at the

white house saw biden ambling around and

asked him if he was ready for his first

presidency this is his message from

muhammad king coming

down

conference

no more

no more

no more iran no more turkey

press conference biden replied

apparently in the end somebody told him

a staffer pointed biden toward the tape

mark on the floor and gave him a shove

biden shuffled oh yeah i'll speed it up

obviously

ortho started talking and pausing and

then talking some more and then pausing

you've heard the term pregnant pause joe

biden's pauses where third try master

queen tuplets these pauses were ready to

burst here's one of them

so the best way to get something done if

you if you hold it down with brazil

absolutely no idea

if uh if you share and anything in the

news

i'll check it out near and dear to you

that you uh um like to be able to

anyway

i'm ready to get a lot done

not that america we're going to get a

lot done a lot of course we'll get a lot

more done and confuse far fewer people

if we go ahead and read our policy

positions from small pieces of paper

that others have painstakingly prepared

for us that way we won't lose

consciousness in descendants or

accidentally start a war so on the topic

of north korea oh he was released

wow

yeah i should have shit i didn't have

time to prepare like get a full news

cycle today to get all the news but wow

he was released

can he run again or is he barred

joe biden knew exactly what to do he

found his piece of paper and started

reading the word that had been written

on it

we're consulting with our allies and

partners and uh

there will be uh responses if they

choose to escalate um we will respond

accordingly but i'm also prepared

um for some form of diplomacy it's got

to be pretty intimidating to the north

koreans of course are watching it in

real time he can run wow so what do you

i don't know the situation but is he

how's his chances because i heard

he's like too popular in brazil that

they had to you know they've got nukes

in pyongyang now that means they

probably have cable tv too don't

underestimate these people they're

crafty of course north koreans are

already deeply afraid of job and they

know that he means business they

remember the time that biden beat the

crap out of the entire kim family with

the chain he nelson mandela back in 86

you've heard the story they've lived it

it's part of their lore and now this

nursery is facing not just joe biden's

masculinity but an entire piece of paper

with instructions on it that joe biden

is perfectly willing to read any time he

needs to that cue card is joe biden's

secret weapon in the fight against

earlier

um hold on i'm gonna check this out

amazon workers strike in italy

wow uh 75 percent of employees struck

um

yeah amazon reported it's like political

company employs one of 9 500 workers

directly across the country

um

wow how did they organize it

the strike took place means a major

campaign by the trade unions in the

united states to secure recognition of

um

wow

the unions did not raise a single

concrete demand really to wages working

hours or conditions is the reason for

the action rather their central demand

is that amazon agreed to negotiate with

them on terms of a national agreement

and establish stable trade so it looks

like the established unions in italy

were clashing with

amazon

but you guys have to keep in mind that

this is not a spontaneous action

this is established italian unions

that already exist and i have already

that are national unions

um

that are driving this

um but wow interesting

i think people need to look at the

national element of this though because

this is you can also view this in the

context of this is there's nothing okay

let me say something else controversial

this is not internationalist proletarian

solidarity going on this is a situation

of a

sovereign italian national unions are

clashing with an american foreign

corporation

about the conditions and circumstances

of the workplace

so

you guys have to keep that in mind don't

just look at this and automatically

think

you know this is the fertile ground of

20th century style proletarian

international

you know revolution it's not

but you know

um obviously

progressive people in italy

are going to be definitely

on the case you know

um

but you guys got to remember that these

are national established unions

um

you guys got to keep that in mind this

isn't like you know

uh

let's read more you know i said dsa is

attempting to strike as an argument for

strengthening trade union apparatuses

strategy their work is to unite

well you have to have the strong unions

in place in the first place

um the last decades of italian

conventions through the process of

utilization

fueled the props of incorporation into

the italian state

this is what okay this is the key thing

right here you just got it right here

the key thing in the last two decades

italian confederation unions went

through a process of

institutionalization following an

embrace of social dialogue and

corporatism from the 1990s onwards which

fueled the process of incorporation into

the italian state unions gained access

to policymaking but in

exchange conceded waived evaluation and

then to industrial conflict this

especially hurt the union's ability to

mobilize the periphery of the labor

market notably the emerging logistics

injury

okay

um

and what has happened to this

okay regardless of those concessions

nothing like this happened in america

the the american unions

um

they don't have any type of leverage

compared to this they they've been

weakened

tremendously weakened you know

um

this is the key thing i want you guys to

pay attention to this this is so

important literally this is so so so

important okay

the only thing they're doing is that

their aim is to force amazon back to the

negotiating table to establish the

normal industrial relations that exist

in other sectors in other words

italian unions were incorporated into

the italian state and they came to a

certain understanding that there's going

to be a normal

level of

standards for italian industries amazon

came to italy and is bypassing those

standards so this is where the union is

intervening so there's a political and

national element of sovereignty versus

this kind of globalization whatever

amazon american union i mean that's the

key thing here

this is not spontaneous workers strikes

like how it happened in the 19th century

or the 20th century where locally

workers just went on strike and it just

spontaneously happened there's a deeply

political and national aspect to this

that can't be taken for granted in

america in america

you know um

yeah

but interesting news interesting news

let's get back to tucker though because

we're we got to come back to america

even though we're kind of in an

international platform all right one

last thing

what is this

liberty to the communist party of the

social republic of vietnam

this is the liberation world thing

right

you can be easy america and that's good

news because we've got problems of our

own in this country one of our biggest

problems is voting it's getting harder

and harder to vote there are some people

in america biggest let's just call them

they are who are demanding that we know

voters identities before we let them

choose our government they want people

to show ids at the polls if you can even

imagine in 2021 these bigots joe biden

explained today are republicans

and so i'm convinced that we'll be able

to stop this because it is the most

unions operating on principles of power

leftists don't get that in our yeah yeah

very true king john in the 21st century

especially unions are inherently

political if they don't have some kind

of

connection to a political power of some

kind

whether that's the state in the case of

italy or it's um alternative you know

opposition party

that wields a tremendous amount of power

and leverage over the state as is a

hypothetical scenario in the case of

america

you know there's no pure

union economic struggle anymore there's

no such thing

pernicious thing this makes jim crow

look like jim eagle

jim eagle who's jim eagle a comic book

hero from the 50s some kind of dog-faced

pony soldier we didn't know who jim

eagle was when scorings were google

machines to look it up then we realized

duh we're being way too literal here

it's an analogy crow eagle they're both

birds but an eagle is much bigger than a

crow well to be fair i understood that

instead asking people to show a driver's

license when they vote is much more

racist than segregation and lynchings

segregation and lynchings were jim crow

voter ids are jim eagle way worse and

that makes sense when you think about it

most black people don't have

government-issued ids and that's why

they can't drive cars or fly on

airplanes or whole jobs super weird

irony of this is that biden himself was

a segregation-era democrat

i mean

understand hotels or the doctor or cash

checks or sign rental agreements or buy

homes or open bank accounts or purchase

sudafed at cvs black people can't do any

of those things because they don't have

ids millions and millions of them don't

have id's and it's sad as joe biden

often points out now you might think the

solution to this tragedy would be make

it easier for americans to get id's

subsidize them if you have to no job is

a better idea just make sure okay on

that topic guys

and i don't know if you live in the

united states

but getting a fucking id like a driver's

license is the most

everyone has i i've never heard of

someone who had a good experience at the

fucking dmv

i don't know if it's the same in other

states that's what they call the dmv the

department of motor whatever

you have to wait five hours every time

you fucking go to get your id

and i'm not exaggerating are you

planning on getting your id

will prepare to take the whole fucking

day off just to do it

yeah

then it's super inefficient super

outdated

and that's why americans hate

governments

no one ever has to show an id in order

to vote and that way the millions and

millions and millions of african

americans who somehow don't have ids

won't feel bad or left out they still

won't be able to drive cars or have jobs

or bank accounts or live anywhere but at

least they can vote a lot and the rest

of us won't be racist problem solved

there's joe biden just told us he's

gonna get a lot done and not just the

next four years by the way but in the

four year

um

marathon oil workers fight for safety

in nebraska wow

teamsters

yeah that's a real union

locked out marathon oil refining workers

can you pick it here 24 7

200 workers

uh

wow after a one-day strike the central

issues of the fighting

you're fighting not just for yourselves

for the safety of the community

surrounding the refinery where you

work huh

wow

what's their chances for success

what do you think i don't know anything

about the situation on the ground but uh

wow

nebraska

200

wow

what are their chances

here's after that joe biden is running

again he told us that today too by the

end of his second term joe biden will be

86 years old that's a full decade past

the life expectancy of the average

american member for the record has

already exceeded it but there's nothing

average about joe biden time improves

him like certain varieties of artisanal

cheese joe biden is meant to be aged he

just gets sharper and more pungent his

next campaign will be even tastier

have you decided whether you were going

to run for reelection in 2024 you

haven't set up a relationship yet has

your predecessor had by this time my

friend said i need to need it too my

predecessor oh god i miss him um now the

answer is yes my plan is to run for

re-election what do you just say oh god

i miss him

wow

my plan is to run for re-election now we

weren't in the room when joe biden said

that but according to those who were

there was an audible gas with horror

from behind the curtain sources said it

sounded very much like kamala harris we

can't confirm that but we can tell you

that joe biden has already picked a

theme for his next campaign the theme is

unity now wait a second you might be

thinking wasn't unity the theme of the

last campaign the one that just ended in

november yes it was but that wasn't

enough unity there is more unity on the

way ladies and gentlemen bucket loads of

it tractor trailer loads full imagine

every swimming pool in malibu tops to

the brim with unity and then at all the

pools in bel air that's how much unity

we're talking about and by unity of

course being policies that make

americans hate each other much more than

they ever have that's what your body has

given us so far and soon we'll have more

the third reason i said i was running

what's this

matt

massachusetts

over dangerous understand you know one

thing that this platform if we get big

infrared can do

is that

being real guys

800 people

800 people is no small number that's a

lot of fucking people you know

um

the problem is media nobody gives these

things attention you know but i hope

that our platform will grow to a point

where we can start being a platform to

give this type of shit attention you

know we can just plat we can you know

we can cover it and we can spin them

politically and make them

make it entertaining to watch

um

so there's so so we can talk about these

things on stream

and we can show people that's an example

that it can work that they've done it

here you could do it there yeah we could

you we could interview union officials

we could do things there's a lot of

things we could do with our platform you

know

um

a big problem is the lack of media media

attention so we could use our platform

for that

and

you know um

i hope we'll get to that point you know

what do you like the country

and generally speaking all of you said

no you can't do that

well i'm not being able to unite the

congress but i've been united in the

country based on the polling data

we have to come together you know i'm

not going to critique anyone but

in terms of all the lefty streamers on

twitch

they i i you know they they never really

cover anything like that you know they

never they never

focus attention on these kinds of things

and i get that it's hard to make those

entertaining and engaging that an

audience will care about them but

i don't know i feel like it's better

than just kind of this okay i'm just

gonna name hassan like every time i

watch hassan he's always like there's

nothing we could do we're fucked we're

doomed it's like dude but you you know

you have the attention of like

over 20k people that's a huge

achievement and there's a lot you could

do with that you could do a lot with

that dude it's not you know you you

yourself have a lot of

you know reach and i get that you know

if you if you can easily lose that reach

if you're not entertaining people

and i 100 get that but you know you

could still do a lot with it you know

oh the polling data the real currency of

washington now we haven't checked the

polling data ticker today but we have to

tell you that we approached this one

specific claim of some degree of

skepticism not every one of joe biden's

unifying policies has fully unified the

country just yet there's still some

crotchety holdouts deep in the american

interior who aren't fully sold on his

freshman program of being humiliated

berated disarmed and taxed into poverty

and powerlessness those people were

bigots obviously they're probably

friends with the snakehealth evangelical

freaks who complain when some dude shows

up at their eight-year-old daughter's

locker room but whatever he can't please

everyone you know who you can please

that with your job the media reporters

are highly pleased they're one group

that remains utterly united in their

love and support of job and the polling

data show it joe biden knows this well

he's not pandering to reporters japan is

bigger than that it's not like the

washington post is a credit card company

from delaware he doesn't need to slobber

on them so today joe biden explained

that despite his massive successes on

our southern border the ones you're

seeing on tv he is not ready to show

reporters exactly what he's doing down

there that's for him to know and them to

find out

we haven't seen the facilities in which

children are packed together to really

give the american people a chance to see

that will you commit to transparency on

this welcome to transparency and as soon

as i am in a position to be able to

implement what we're doing right now

well that's kind of unusual you don't

often hear a politician admit that he's

rejecting openness and embracing secrecy

they usually lie about that but nacho

biden biden tends to say the unspoken

things out loud whereas opaque is a

shower curtain he told the prescott

there's nothing you can do about it

it's pretty provocative of course it is

but provocative in a way that reporters

enjoy it they're naughty those reporters

they like to be teased deny them what

they ask for and they want more here's a

lady from state media national public

radio flush with wonder as she describes

the remarkable personal qualities of her

boss joe biden

you've said over and over again that

immigrants should come to this country

right now this is the time to come that

message is not being received instead

the perception of you that got you

elected as a moral decent man is the

reason why a lot of people are coming to

the country and trusting you without a

company miners

when you call a man moral and decent in

your question to him it kind of sets the

frame as they say but is a moral decent

man is running this country ladies and

gentlemen that's the message of unity by

the way it's a required message so

repeat to yourself five times and repeat

it everyone you know if you don't you're

racist

one

um i want to check out the friendly

highlights now

the abc one

it's owned by disney so damn look at

this

look at this dislike ratio holy

shit okay clearly they they find this

very biased

press announcement not press conference

yeah they didn't really glyph grill him

wow we're gonna check this out a little

more

people

december i indicated that i hope to get

100 million shots in people's arms

in my first 100 days

we met that goal last week by day 58

42 days ahead of schedule

now today i'm setting the second goal

and that is

we will buy my 100th something i think

trump did really well

is he revealed how much it's all about

ego and you could really tell biden is

just bragging here

in a really similar way trump used to

you know

trump was just more open about it okay

leninist

i get it dude there's a lot there's a

lot

there's a lot of stuff okay dude you

don't have to spam me with every fucking

article

workers in manchester and beyond have

joined the picket line and

okay

the bosses are determined to break the

strike they have relocated

did they win or did they just win

solidarity

they won solidarity did they win in

terms of getting their demand

the boss is determined to break the

strike their reloads

40 40 co-workers ah that's it's

interesting

you know

but

if you're just gonna give me stuff from

strikes all around the world dude we're

gonna not have we're gonna

we're just gonna be you know it's

i'm sorry to say but we're not gonna

learn anything you know

we're just gonna you know be looking at

articles from strikes everywhere across

the world

which are happening all the time you

know

um

uh let's see

yeah the strike's not over so it's i

don't think they won

but

we gotta chill dude

in office have administered 200 million

shots

in people's arms those who are coming

across the border who are unaccompanied

children

were moving rapidly to try to put in

place what was dismantled as i said for

example

of all the children are coming across

the border over 70 percent are either 16

or 17 years old

we're not talking about people ripping

babies from mother's arms or little

three-year-olds was that um what was the

percentage in the trump era this is what

i'm curious about stan on the border

less than i think it's one and a half

percent

fall in the category of the very young

the idea that i'm going to say

which i would never do

if an unaccompanied child ends up at the

border we're just going to let them

starve to death and stay on the other

side

no previous administration did that

either except trump

i'm not going gonna do it

i'm not gonna do it did he do that

i don't know if he did that

did he did trump say that

deciding that you're gonna end voting at

five o'clock when working it just seems

like

biden is willing to virtue signal about

it but that doesn't really tell us about

how the people at the border themselves

are acting it's not like biden just

sacked everyone who was working at the

border and replaced them with entirely

new people

i mean

i'm pretty sure the people like who are

actually the guards at the border are

the same people

so

for just getting off work

deciding that there will be no absentee

ballots under the most rigid

circumstances

it's all designed and i'm going to spend

my time doing three things

one

trying to figure out how to pass the

legislation passed by the house

number one number two

educating the american public

the republican voters i know

find this despicable

republican voters

of folks out in the

outside this white house i'm not talking

about

the elected officials i'm talking about

voters

voters

have you decided whether you are going

to run for re-election in 2024 you

haven't set up a re-election campaign

yet as your predecessor had by this time

my friend said i need to need it to

my predecessor

oh god i miss him um

no an answer is yes my plan is to run

for reelection that's my expectation no

american president ever

backed down from speaking out on what's

happening in the uyghurs

what's happening in hong kong

what's happening in in in country

that's who we are

the moment a president walks away from

that as the last one did

is the moment we began to lose our

legitimacy around the world

it's who we are

so i see stiff competition

with

china

china has an overall goal

and i don't criticize them for the goal

but they have an overall goal to become

the leading country in the world the

wealthiest country in the world and the

most powerful country in the world

that's not going to happen on my watch

[Laughter]

i mean it's probably not going to happen

under your watch because judging by how

your eyes looked

just last year it doesn't look like much

falls under your watch at all looks like

your field of vision is very narrow and

probably doesn't extend past your few

feet

ahead of you i don't know how anything

gets in your watch

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hi everyone

not under my watch i mean probably not

no because you're going to be sleeping

um that was cute

let's see politicos

wow look at these dislike ratios are off

the wall

please please stop thank you thank you

we will by my 100th day in office have

administered 200 million shots

in people's arms

that's right 200 million shots in 100

days

i know it's ambitious

twice our original goal

but no other country in the world has

even come close you've said over and

over again that immigrants shouldn't

come to this country right now this

isn't the time to come that message is

not being received instead the

perception of you that got you elected

as a moral decent man is the reason why

a lot of immigrants are coming to this

country and entrusting you with

unaccompanied minors well look i guess i

should be flattered

people are coming because i'm the nice

guy that's the reason why it's happening

if an unaccompanied child ends up at the

border we're just gonna let him starve

to death and stand the other side

trump so do you believe it should take

60 votes to end a filibuster on

legislation or 51

it's not you know this is a really weird

press conference it seems like people

are just lining up to kiss his ass and

i've never seen a press conference with

you know that was like this with trump

not my expertise and what the

parliamentary rules on how to get there

are but

our preoccupation with the filibuster is

totally legitimate but in the meantime

we got a lot we can do he doesn't really

strike me as very presidential what do

you guys think

just um a neutral non-political

observation of some kind as a layman he

doesn't really strike me as a president

he seems like he's like a

he's like a secretary or he's a stand-in

for

we don't know who the president it seems

like we the president is in occultation

and this is just kind of like a manager

or something he seems like a manager

yeah he seems like a walmart supervisor

there's nothing really presidential

about him

um trump was very presidential because

he was a character he was like

he was a very elephantine kind of

character

um even obama obama was a unique

personality as well obama you know

he was also a care

look

all presidents that that have been

within my lifetime had this quality of

being able to animate the crowd it's

almost like they have a special touch

that just allows them to kind of set the

mood and you know

um exude this sense of presidentialness

even george w you know even him

biden i think is the first president in

my lifetime

that really doesn't strike me as a

president at all there's nothing

presidential like i don't look at this

guy and i don't think this is the

president i just think

this is some kind of

manager or special

you know

supervisor or something

while we're talking about what we're

going to do about the filibuster

regarding the filibuster he doesn't the

problem with him is that he doesn't have

the forcefulness of a president and it's

it's because of his health situation he

doesn't have this kind of

active

persona or personality

at john lewis's funeral president barack

obama said he believed the filibuster

was a relic of the jim crow era do you

agree

yes

if not why not abolish it if it's a

relic of the jim crow era let's figure

out how we can get this done

and move in the direction

of significantly changing the abuse of

even the filibuster rule

first

you're moving closer to eliminating the

filibuster is that correct

i answered your question

i want to go back to voting rights are

you worried that

if you don't manage to pass

voting rights legislation okay mr judo i

i agree with you

but

i don't think it's a lot on twitch so

let's chill

that your party is going to lose seats

and possibly lose control of the house

and the senate in 2022. what i'm worried

about is how unamerican

this whole initiative is

it's sick

it's sick

and so i'm convinced

that we'll be able to stop this because

it is the most pernicious thing this

makes jim crow look like jim eagle have

you decided whether you are going to run

for re-election in 2024 you haven't set

up a re-election all right um i think

that's enough of biden i think we've got

the gist of his news conference which

was not

that much um he covered

the border um

he said we're going to be moving out

thousands of kids out quickly i got

ford's blitz opened up that's why i've

been

okay we'll

see uh the cover 19 vaccines

reopening schools uh

schools are

half of half of them are open k through

eight

um

stimulus payments

infrastructure

physical and technological

infrastructure in the country

in pitts pittsburgh

you know across the whole country i

wonder what that's gonna look like

voting rights filibuster reform

we'll see

we'll see we'll see what happens

um does he have the executive power to

abolish the filibuster

would there be a way to eliminate it

the senate has to do it

so i don't know how

how they would abolish this filibuster

the straightforward cluster would

formally change the text of the senate

rule 22.

um how would you do that

is there executive power

yeah i don't know

i don't know how it would be possible

um

okay

all right i think i'm gonna start taking

collins now because we have more on the

news we don't actually have more news we

have content and

if we watch the if we do the content

first we're not going to be able to get

into any columns so let's uh let's begin

the collins now we're going to be taking

collins right about now i'm going to get

into the show queue

so you can see me on this uh

right here

right here you can see me

let's take five to ten minute collins

and i'm gonna time them so don't say i'm

being rude if i cut you off

you know please more news i'm really

sleepy okay we'll do more news we'll do

more news okay we'll do more news

i'm gonna let people prepare to

to get into

i want people to prepare for the call-in

so prepare to get in the show queue

and uh when when we're done with the

news

we'll continue we have more news though

we do have more news so

just prepare yourselves guys

um

this is something i found

super sus and i've been having this

working schizo theory and i wanted to

share with you guys

prince harry has taken up a second job

in two days this time at the

commissioner for the aspen institute

examining the state of american

misinformation and disinformation

so i okay in the discord i came up with

a crazy idea any debates maybe maybe i

heard destiny said something and maybe

i'll go on destiny's show today

i don't know

i'll have to check twitch let me see is

he on twitch right now

um let's see

yeah he's playing a game called dark

wood

um

destiny

he's not doing anything so we might be

able to go on destiny's show today we

might be doing that later today

like tonight it might be happening

tonight

um

so

yeah let's just look at this this is

paywall but

let me tell you guys a few a working

theory i've been having about this royal

family this is a completely schizo

theory it's left field

it's very unlikely

you know it's probably not going to

happen but

i want to get you guys thinking about it

so the media has been really focusing on

this royal couple

and

i i wonder if they're going to start

getting involved in american politics

and if i start seeing that they get

involved in american politics here's my

theory

the great reset deep state wants to prop

these two up to restore

monarchy over america

as an extension of the british ruling

and that the conflict with the british

royal family was completely artificial

and fake

and that

all of this is being set up to install

them as the fucking monarchs of america

now you might find this crazy but

it would make total sense

meghan markle is half she's mixed she's

she's part black and that

speaks to american culture and a

significant portion of the american

population it looks like they're setting

these people up

to be the the the monarchs of america i

mean

it's let's speculate guys i don't know i

don't know you know

i don't know what the what the fuck is

going on but that sounds like something

that would make sense

that sounds like something that would

make sense do i have any evidence for it

no

do i have any

any evidence at all to

to back this up absolutely none

but if these two start getting involved

in american politics more she's eligible

from what i hear to run for president so

if she starts getting involved in

politics

and if they start getting involved in

politics at all

that's gonna tell me that this was all

set up and that they're being set up to

because yeah america remember when i

told you guys america doesn't have a

state and i explained that through the

lens of hegel and all that kind of stuff

well stars are aligning and it would

make a lot of sense that the deep states

and the elites think that some kind of

constitutional monarchy something like

that will solve america's crisis and

solve its problem and heal its wounds or

whatever

um

yeah this this one's not paywall prince

harry joins us initiative to tackle fake

news why

why is he getting involved in this

um

15 members the commission from

information disorder set up by the aspen

institute the aspen institute is has a

sketchy background

um

it's tied to

who is it tied to

funded by the carnegie corporation the

rockefeller brothers fund the gates

foundation the lumina foundation and the

ford foundation

these are just about the holy grail

right here of conspiracy theorists the

gates foundation ford foundation the

rockefeller brothers fund the carnegie

corporation

um

but someone specifically is involved in

this

and let me find the source cause

logo the guy named logo on twitter he

was talking about this

uh

let me find the guy here he is he was

talking about this

damn

can't show that on stream

he was talking about it where

on if you if he holds near and dear to

you that you uh

let me find it i'm looking for it right

now

here it is

so who's involved

it's bankrolled by the guy who started

craigslist

craig newark

this guy this is who it's bankrolled by

um

and

craig's been a huge founder of

politifact and other such internet media

fact-checking regulation

super weird

super sketchy i mean super weird i don't

know that was my kind of schizo theory i

there's no

there's no you know

there's no evidence for it there's no

justification for it but do i believe it

yes

why do i believe it

i don't know

i have no idea

i have no idea i just wanna i wanna

believe it i wanna believe it

because it's good optics not just

because it's good optics but because it

just makes sense i want to believe it

because it makes sense you know

i'm not a you know i'm not going to try

and say

factually

i know this is the truth but

i don't know i'm pondering i'm wondering

you know i'm curious

i'm curious

i'm quite curious

so that was some news

um i actually wanted to watch this this

is an hour long and i wanted to

personally watch it so i was like why

don't i save it on stream it's a young

people debate about human rights in

china and the us so this is a debate set

up by cgtn where people are going to

debate about human rights in china

versus the us and i think this is super

interesting and i want to watch it but

i'm going to let you guys decide do we

want to bring people on the show

or do we want to do this because

nobody's in

the show cue

um

do this

people are boring i want this i agree

people are fucking boring let's do this

alright let's check this out we we can

go uh

1.5 speed let's do that

callers debate destiny

that's on cgdn i'm in beijing there has

been this age-old question what are

human rights they're different points of

view obviously in the united states

people pride themselves i could actually

dm destiny now and i could probably

i could probably go on destiny he's not

doing anything right now he's just

playing games i could probably go on

having the right to vote to assemble to

protest and to freely express themselves

you think these rights made their

country one of the greatest powers in

history of the world whereas in china

and many other asian civilizations

people argue that human rights should

also entail the right to food to shelter

to safety health and security and that

the collective rights should not be

compromised at the expense of individual

rights in the united states trump's

immigration policies were described by

many as inhumane the black lives matter

movement highlighted racial pensions and

the united states unfortunately

registered the highest number of kobe 19

deaths in china there has also been

concerns over violations of human rights

for example over the freedom of speech

the treatment of weaker in xinjiang and

also on the issues talking to destiny

would be a good move

hmm

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but what do i talk what would i talk to

him about because i actually if i talk

to him i have to be serious

um it has to be a chill conversation but

what is the conversation gonna be about

oh he's talking to dylan burns right now

actually let me check let me see

um

do not go on his channel don't bother

you know don't don't do it because i can

just dm him so don't worry you don't

have to like do anything mouth like this

time like congratulations hey come on

which part of that don't you i think

that lance is like

well wait a second easily one of like

the most violent fucks on this platform

in terms of how you promote like

approaches like argumentation and

everything absolutely aren't i a nice

person

yeah but you weren't

okay

let's just watch this and by the time

we're done with this

um

we're going to

we're going to get into the we're going

to go on destiny probably tonight

in hong kong so which side is right the

debate never ends today i'm very pleased

to be joined by eight brilliant young

men and women and they're here to debate

this enduring question which country's

record of human rights supports humans

more china talk philosophy but destiny

said he only cares about policy you know

um

i could probably try to he i don't think

he's he's dogmatic about like what

communism and socialism means

it's just that he he it has to be

relevant yeah it needs to be something

concrete you know that

that that's what i think too

he's destiny's not really like an

intellectual you know he's more focused

on

yeah any states

the proposition team argues that china

he enjoys philosophical combos

human rights records supports humans

more whereas the opposition team argues

the human rights record of the united

states supports humans more

now let me quickly introduce the team

members zoom ahmed han researcher at

cinquan university

also shenzhou rome a lecturer at beijing

international studies university

nina huang schwarzman scholar at

sinclair university

sunny miwani director of academics at

the national i want to talk today i can

talk destiny about like heidegger and

modernity and

what we think is philosophy and things

like that you know

national high school debate league of

china from the opposition team we have

with us veronica students at china

women's university wang xiao president

of peking university english debating

society also yeah

master student at deakin university last

but not least

eastern international journalism and

communication student from singapore

university welcome to all of you now

let's get right to it the constructive

speech part that is the first session of

today's debate

let's get right to it each team will

have four minutes to make their case

when there is 30 seconds left we will

let you know by the ring of a bell now i

would like to invite the first speaker

of the day zum ahmed han you may proceed

thank you

thank you

ladies and gentlemen today the

proposition proudly proposes that it is

not the united states but china whose

human rights record and whose actions

and policies have supported human beings

more have supported in our understanding

human rights more

it is not the idea of human rights that

matters it is not ideal that matter but

in reality the consequences of the

policies that a country promotes that a

country pursues if you look at china

china is a country that supports to a

great extent collectivism that supports

the notion that the society has to come

together and make sure that those that

are worst off are being taken care of it

is in this very spirit that domestically

china has been able to uplift 750

million people out of poverty it is also

in this spirit that amid score with 19

when unfortunately countries that

supposedly are the custodians of human

rights and individual rights has

resulted that whose policies have

resulted in drastic consequences and

loss of human life it is china that

prioritize the lives before everything

else and today we see the consequences

of that have also been positive on the

economy we see that despite the fact

that china has had to compromise on

economic growth they prioritize

uplifting people from absolute poverty

once again

should i uh slower the speed or is this

a good speed guys because i kind of

think the speed should be lowered a bit

but i'll i'll bring it back if you guys

want

remember that these people in china are

the ones that have benefited from a

trajectory a mindset now let's look more

broadly china is now a country whose

international approach is increasing

whose regional initiatives are taking

place are picking up ace as well and

here we will talk about the belgian road

initiative of course because this is an

initiative that has helped uplift

countries and communities from a vicious

cycle of poverty from a vicious cycle of

destruction this is an initiative that

is today helping yeah it's it's at 1.2

point it's at 1.25 right now for

millions of people across developing

countries helping enhance opportunities

for them and i believe as a person

representing the proposition that these

are very important realities that need

to be recognized

rights human rights as much as we wish

them are not handed on a silver platter

it is easy to say that people are born

with rights people are born with human

dignity but the reality is that

proactive approach is required to make

sure that people's rights are delivered

to them and there i believe that out of

both these options between china and the

us china is domestically as well as

regionally playing a more positive role

so once again we would like to say that

china has in uh practicality promoted

human rights human dignity domestic and

abroad and unfortunately that is less

than the case for the united states

thank you

zu hamedhan thank you so much for your

opening statement now i would like to

invite veronica ludaka from the

opposition team to make her case

veronica please

thank you

um it's important for us to understand

why human rights are universal and

inalienable and not only chinese or

american

this is why

uh it is you cannot lose these rights

and cannot be denied a right just

because a state has decided that it is

less important or not essential so this

is why by bed right you are entitled to

free trial free speech free assembly

right to religion and privacy just to

mention a few therefore any state who

revises these rights in the name of

state security or making any excuses is

just pretending

they are visions of these human rights

unfortunately usa and china hold

different political ideologies

she already mentioned that china takes

collectivism which is

a socialist approach while usa is

democratic so for us to understand which

of these two systems

from a broader perspective supports

human rights more let me start by

explaining these two systems so that we

can

make our point broader in democracy

power is vested in the people through

representation and people i think she's

saying that

human rights

is individualism something like that

it's based on individual human rights

based on their critical analysis

and government decisions are a direct

influence of the people

for example policies are implemented

from the bottom up approach

policies are made for man and not man

for the policies so when you look at

socialism which is china

the approach is where top officials

guided by party ideologies tend to take

center stage which can create a social

distance resulting to the ignorance of

human rights

policies reflect

the interest of a party and not of the

people which is not a clear definition

of human rights otherwise the undhr

would not have

had a meeting to implement human rights

in the first place so whatever comes

from the government does not depict the

interests of the people but the interest

of a category of people which is the

party

statistics which come from a dependent

and independent source freedom house

raised china as a six

the lowest the second lowest possible

rank in political freedom

so let's look at statistics in the usa

just so we can make our point clear

the united states is generally given

high to fair marks on human rights for

example the freedom in the world index

lists united states the highest category

for freedom of expression

in civil and political rights with 86

out of 100 points the cir human rights

data project

places the us-38 overall in human rights

united states is also considered to have

a high degree of press freedom with the

2017 freedom of press report by freedom

house labeling the level of press

freedom in the united states as free

ranking it 33rd out of 199 countries

let me go on to say that in democracy

and in communism you have a choice and

accountability

democracy people have the ability and

right question open criticism and rights

of choice if they are not satisfied they

hold a government accountable this is

where you see united states senate able

to impeach a whole president because

they dream him not fit to lead the

people and he's violating human rights

well guys it's a fucking debate so you

got to hear both sides

let's hear her argument and then we'll

see how they respond

and because usa

to become a leader

no matter if we're talking about

personal growth or nations one should be

proud of their strengths but also

acknowledge their weaknesses identify

their role models and admire them

aim to surpass them over time by doing

better work awareness shouldn't make

anyone anxious or feel vulnerable but

rather more grounded and realistic thank

you

thank you veronica and i would like to

invite the second speaker to make

opening statements

first from the proposition team

shenzhorum please

thank you my colleagues from the

opposition side first of all i'd like to

respond to some of the points you just

mentioned i'd like to point out politely

that political system today is not under

debate we're actually talking about

which country supports more human rights

so it's always about the concrete

results it's always about who delivers

and also you've mentioned that also and

also you've mentioned about the freedom

of speech i want to point out that i

want to go to a very famous line oh

liberty what crimes have been committed

in thy name just because you have

freedom's freedom of speech does not

mean that it could guarantee the human

rights for example donald trump's

freedom of speech were well protected

but he had incited many riots and many

misconceptions about the prevention of

covet which actually harmed more human

rights than it supported and after that

even this freedom of uh the freedom of

speech of donald trump were spammed

this is a super paradoxical thing we're

dealing with is that the problem is that

liberals in the u.s are going jumping

through you know they're doing olympic

twists and

just to say oh well that's not a matter

of freedom of speech that's they're

inventing new words that's a mentor a

matter of incitement or that's a matter

of election interference or that's a

matter of you know they're spinning it

in new ways to maintain the sanctity and

purity of liberalism but it's just not

working

ironic and i would like to point out

that there are universality and

particularities of human rights china

embraces a human right that centers on

the people not some hollowed

up in the air ideals and people are what

the human rights are all about and i'd

like to point out that china has lifted

750 million people out of poverty

contributing to more than 80 percent of

the total population that has been

lifted out of out of poverty globally

and i would also like to say that the

human rights cause in china was about

supporting people not just in terms of

economy but also in terms of health

education environment and development as

my team teammate just mentioned now

let's take a look at the u.s let's take

a look at this i charges human rights

record

first of all let's talk about the world

mongering effort of the united states

ever since the world war ii the u.s had

its fingers on almost every wars since

that dprk iran iraq syria afghanistan

the list goes on and on isn't it ironic

to see your country that

wages wars against other countries in

the name of in the in the name of

respecting the rule of law respecting

the human rights of other countries well

in fact what they are doing is rape

women is to torture the prisoner of

force and to kill civilians randomly

they have wiped out millions of people

with their social engineering with their

regime change with their intervention

and with their wars so i'm wondering if

in the minds of the u.s only the human

rights of americans are worth protecting

and worth supporting oh wait a minute it

isn't let's look at what happens in the

united states the u.s does support human

rights more only if you're white

human rights defined by the constitution

is just a fine line of the is only the

last fine line to protect human rights

not that's nowhere near to support it

equality sounds nice in real economies a

sense nice in constitution but in fact

black lives only matter because they

have suffered too long from a systemic

oppression on the rise of minorities and

the institutionalized discrimination

against minorities has been ex has been

existing for as long as there is america

minorities face unjust treatment in

every aspect of their lives be it

education health and employment

he's taking liberal talking points

he's gone woke

well you have to understand that

the

the chinese are not used to dealing with

the internal politics of other countries

they are used to minding their own

business but just recently

maybe the past year i guess because

america has been up all in china's

business china is looking at the

prevailing internal criticisms that are

being leveled levied against america

and they're looking at the ones that are

internal to china itself you know so

um

you know

but i think these are

more or less these are not really

objectionable points he's raising

yeah exactly he's talking liberal

talking points because those are the

ones that are ready at hand and prevail

but as time goes on china is going to

start realizing that

this is my prediction i mean i don't

know i could be wrong that china is

going to have to start taking internal

politics of america more seriously

and um what that's going to evolve into

and look like is going to be very

interesting to see i already have my own

suspicions and predictions about what

it's going to be like

but

we're looking at the very immature

stages of china's critique of the us

um

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all right let's watch

excuses me that sigma freud takes his

lifelong effort at psychology to earn

his name but george floyd only takes one

line to be famous around the world that

is when he's trampled under the knee of

the police of a policeman saying i can't

breathe thank you

thank you shane jerome

next up from the opposition team

mr wang yishou

hello everyone firstly i would like to

have three quick responses towards their

point the first point is about how china

uplifts this kind of like poverty right

wow this is

this is the university in beijing

so this guy's in china he's actually

chinese himself it seems like he's on

the english debate team

in china

but it's in china it's all located in

china so why aren't they censoring him i

thought china censors all criticism

of the state

or whatever you know

we admit that it is correct but today's

debate is about comparative right you

should know that that u.s have already

have like more people more proportion

like middle classes which means that

people in the u.s are comparatively

richer right but secondly they talk

about how u.s have this kind of

intervention and uh like to other

countries and how you can make things

worse in these kind of countries the

first response to that is that at least

you guys tried to protect human rights

but secondly we told you that they don't

tell us what is a comparative look like

right for instance what will like you as

r intervene these kind of things will

things be better at their side of the

house i don't think that is the case

right but thirdly we tell you that

even all the case is true still at our

side house is competitively better

because you guys have a kind of like

self-reflection system you can hold

those kind of uh like bad bad behavior

account for example like they say donald

trump right donald trump just uh lose to

buy that right you can see those kind of

system has its own self correction uh

like system to enable a better outcome

at the end of the day so what am i going

to tell you in this speech i'm going to

talk about two points the first is about

how the u.s can better ensure political

rights and why it is a essentially a

human right right because i think the

other side is saying no it's not human

right it should always look about the

consequences right but secondly i will

also talk about privacy now firstly on

political rights what we all know that

you guys have this kind of election

right and china has this kind of like

representation who actually represent

you right the first problem of this is

that a lot of times i don't even know

who's actually representing me right

it's just like a form or kind of process

that you need to go through and the

people are already determined before you

even choose right but secondly

it is it makes like corruption more

easier to happen because when minority

group of people are actually holding

this kind of power it actually means

that those kind of corruption is more

likely to happen the comparative here is

that in u.s even if you still these kind

of politics are related to financial

financial like situation for example you

still have this kind of lobbying but at

least those kind of things are on the

table the people can see those kind of

lobby right but also those kind of

people who actually have their own

incentive to like for promotion for

their

security of their own position they're

more likely to suppress people's voices

right when people actually want to have

like reflection or report on this group

of people right even if this best case

at their side house uh we still think

that the people need to wait for the

government to like solve the problems

for them comparative is that the

citizens at the u.s can

actively vote to actually voice out

their own voices why do we think that it

is essentially hold on that you need to

hack right by the way guys look at these

people on this side these are what mls

look like by the way

this is what ml's in in the age of

multi-polarity in the post-covered world

look like

you guys got to understand that because

we think that a lot of times the

government have like power towards you

which means that there are oftentimes

make those kind of no i'm not policies

i'm saying they look normal they look

presentable they look modern they look

you know decent

they're not like uh

larping and weird and you know all this

kind of stuff actively affect your life

right there's no way for you to actually

fight back against these kinds look at

that look look at how professional and

modern and stuff they are this is what

they look like in the 21st century

that's right

so map is right when he said to we all

need to start wearing suits

no not necessarily he didn't say that

but i'm just saying yeah i mean in this

context you should be wearing

i mean i kind of go with the iranian

fashion where you don't wear a tie i

don't like ties i i'm against ties but

you have to look nice for something like

this

i mean for something like this

and guys caleb's a a professional he's a

reporter so he has to look professional

you know and and if you're

if you're doing if you're in this formal

setting you should look professional you

know

you cannot like uh you cannot fight back

because the government always have

polices the government have military

forces which means that the people

should have the right to reflect back

their choices to the government now

further further extension on the privacy

i want to point out a very like vivid

example like happening around me right

uh we all have this kind of like remote

exam during coffee 19.

a lot of like my u.s uh classmates told

me that uh they just protest protest is

kind of like camera when you are

actually surveillance on people whether

they are cheating or not right but in

china we just accept this kind of like

arrangement right um i think this kind

of privacy is so important it's also

human right because as already said the

state has already have enough power if

you like give up your

like privacy which means that state have

like even more power over you but

secondly it's about how you actively

have this kind of feeling of being safe

this kind of feeling is so important

because it will actually affect how you

speak out on the internet or like on

other platforms thank you cool

all right thank you very much for the

opening statements now we're entering

the crossfire session the third debater

of the proposition side raises questions

to any of the first second or fourth

debater from the opposition side now is

twist the property i think the imbalance

that's going on here between america and

china discursively is that

the chinese seem to be very familiar

with the arguments on the u.s side

but the americans have no idea what the

chinese are saying

so what does that tell you

i mean as far as which one is more

advanced than the other it seems like

the chinese point of view is shaped and

trialled

by already responding to the liberal

arguments whereas the liberals are

unexposed

and are not robust enough to deal with

the chinese perspective

i can interrupt any time while the

opposition side cannot for the team

asking questions he or she would have a

time limit of 30 seconds to ask a

question also bear in mind there needs

to be a question not a statement not a

comment not a rhetorical question

now enoch from the proposition team you

may proceed

thank you um so let me kick start with a

couple of short questions

um i have a dream

when when was that dude his son

sentenced it by martin luther king dude

this

suit looks sick as fuck this the blazer

his jacket looks sick as fuck do you

mean the year yeah

it's okay let me remind you 1963 yeah i

can't breathe 50 years later

so the second speaker mentioned about

making progress and development

so my question is um

how does u.s human rights solve problems

as you said in racial discrimination how

does that mean what does that mean for

that 8 minute and 40 seconds of george

floyd what does that mean for vienna

taylor in solving the rate this systemic

racial issue while 99 percent of the

police is never been charged even once

and anyone okay i think the first

response i'm going to make is that you

still see those kind of progress

happening that is the reason why you see

barack obama come to stage right but

secondly i want to talk about like in

china it does not mean discrimination

does not happen in china you still have

this kind of discrimination against like

rural people in this kind of area sure

great so so it still hasn't solved the

problem that was my point after 50 years

nothing has been solved so even with u.s

human rights nothing has been sold

particularly with racial problem after

50 years five decades so he asked me to

make comparison my colleague mentioned

about in 2020 um china has officially

eradicated absolute poverty lifting 750

million uh chinese out of property

that's 80 percent of the world extreme

poverty comparison do you know how many

people are in under property line in the

us

you can just stop sure great so that's

43.5 million americans living in another

property and one in six americans go to

bed hungry with lack of access to

healthy meals and visit the food bank

every year so again that's comparison

for you with hard work four decades 750

million lifted out of poverty so i want

to ask from the u.s perspective zero

versus 43.5 million what does that say

to human rights can i ask back your ass

back you'll have the opportunity next

yeah okay answer the question so i don't

firstly i don't know whether the poverty

standard is the same when you actually

talk about poverty at us and china right

but but i feel do feel like that china

is oftentimes identified ourselves as a

kind of like developing countries which

means that we are still underdeveloped

so are you denying china's achievement

and lifting 750 people out of property

no no we're not we're not denying that

but so please answer the question how

u.s human rights help to lift the 43.5

million which is still living in the

property one out of six out of eight of

us one of us will be going to bed hungry

if we're all americans let me go then to

external externally something that has

been said and many times well by my

colleagues in the name of human rights

and anti-terrorism efforts the u.s have

launched war in afghanistan iraq syria

et cetera since 9 11 conservative

estimate by brown university in the usa

at least 37 million have fled their home

and more than 800 000 people have died

in conflicts with u.s involvement so

here's the thing about these statistics

that

with regard to the death toll i mean

even if

you know technically not over a million

of people we don't even know how many

died in these wars

but even if it's on the lower end of the

estimates

the amount of people who've been

displaced and had their fucking lives

ruined and destroyed over 37 million i

mean

that is fucking unprecedented dude that

is incredible

and just because not everybody's not

everyone's dying doesn't mean they're

not facing this unprecedented calamity

that's hanging over their

war lives

so my question is who should bear the

responsibility for repairing the damage

inflicted on those display refugees and

death 37 million that's human that's

from outside our definition

yeah who should without us intervention

those countries still live under

dictatorship who have no interest so

it's okay for them to die

of restoring that country and helping

them to build up functioning mechanism

functioning institutions so i want to

understand about the 37 million who

don't have homemade what does functional

functional functioning democracy mean

for them i mean in warfare you still

have a lot of confidence it's not just

u.s cost deaths but also multiple

parties so from my understanding uh just

now where is 4.3.5 million americans who

go to bed hungry or 37 million who don't

have home and that's not countered as

human i want to understand my last

question how does u.s human rights

support these people

anyone

in this case arrest my case thank you

okay thank you enoch now i would like to

invite you

from the opposition team to start her

crossfire

thank you

thank you that was very active and

impressive very emotional i'm not that

emotional i'm just trying to deliver

some information so i will ask just a

few questions maybe they will be

rhetorical so i'm gonna break some rules

here i'm sorry

um

let's start with

the basics you decided not to define

human rights so my question is do you

think that

you guys see why we're mla

[Laughter]

that was fucking golden dude that was

golden

connected to human rights

it's literally yes or no question kind

of freedom from corruption is a basic

right that most people deserve

beautiful

do you think that political

representation is connected to human

rights

political representation as such cannot

be

compared nor should it be compared in

this debate

sure

um

personally are you sure that you are

aware about all problems happening in

china

i think we're clear about this question

as much as you're cleared about all the

problems that is happening in the united

states

how can you say so

what is your claim my claim is that the

only reason you're asking this question

because you have no answer to this

question

you can have a personal question i i'm

asking do you believe that you're aware

about all the problems happening in

china

yes i just told you my understanding of

all the problems happening in china it's

the same amount of your understanding of

all the problems happening in the united

states yeah absolutely

um so moving further the question like

um the statement about poverty

alleviation um i have a very broad

question do you know how those people

live

those who were alleviated from poverty

do you know how do they live right now

do you have the statistics how many of

them eat before going to bed

as a matter of fact i was personally

involved in the poverty alleviation part

that actually i covered with some of the

stories there and actually i do i do

believe that those people having been

lifted already are enjoying a better

lives here like what can you give some

examples please if it is possible

of course i know this village person who

is used to live in a very remote areas

they have to travel for

for

miles after miles to get basic

subsistence subsistence for food and

water but now they're living in places

that are closer to the city center so

that they could they could easily get

the necessities for their livelihoods

and i think that is the de facto

improvement of their life qualities and

that's protecting their human rights so

do they still live in rural area or they

move to the city

oh actually the aesthetics and the

effects are why they're up to sea and

now they do not live in the city but

they live in a better side of the they

live in a better neighborhood of the

countryside so you basically say that

the living conditions of the countryside

in china

are much better than those in the us

correct

i specifically did not said that right

i'm saying that their living conditions

right now is better than where they used

to live all right uh moving forward to

solving problems uh do you have any

opinions about the improvement of

alcohol what improvement are you

referring to

do you think that gao kao supports uh

rural area and rural kids and helps them

to get into universities

are you implying that ghaka is somehow

biased against people who live in rural

areas perhaps

you have to be clear whether you are

implying that or not

i do imply that okay uh to the

implication that the

national entrance exam is somehow biased

against people who live in the rural

areas the first observation we have is

how is that relevant

the second observation we have is it is

not biased the third observation we have

is even if there are instances of biases

there is no alternative system that can

take so many high school graduates and

put them through a process which ensures

fair and equitable access to a

university so gaucho is not limited to

china almost all countries on this side

on this

part of the world have national dental

examinations because they deem it to be

the most fair

now fairness concerns are relative and

absolute and in this case it is

relatively fair even if

any other system is proven to be better

thank you sunny and thank you kate time

is up thank you thank you very much

now i would like to welcome the third

debaters from either side to conclude

his or her arguments enoch

they picked weak debaters on the

pro-western side

here's the thing about that two things

the first is that

i think the strong point for all of the

western side of the debates

is just to air all of china's dirty

laundry tiananmen square

and then some of the other unconfirmed

stuff the camps and then human rights

via all that kind of stuff you know

that's coming but you have to understand

there's an information filter going on

that the information we're receiving

about china and america about china's

internal affairs some of them won't hold

up in china not because the government

censors them but because chinese people

themselves themselves know that they're

fucking baseless

and the only people who would ever

believe them are naive americans who

don't actually live in china so this is

one reason why the western side seems so

weak these are people who come from a

university based in beijing

and they're not going to be able to get

away with spewing

absurd western lies and slander about

china not because the government is

censoring it but because no one in their

right mind within china actually

believes in it

um the second thing which is a kind of

side observation is that

to be fair

um leftist or at least not leftist per

se but um i guess anti-imperialists

whenever i see them in debates in the

west they always seem to be on the weak

side as well

so it's you know it seems like there's a

similar dynamic going on with regard to

that

have you seen the chuang article on

spirit breaking

yeah i haven't i know about chuang

though can you give me an example about

a western lie about china

um the events of tiananmen square are

not properly

uh or fairly uh reported

in the west people make it seem like

there was just a bunch of peaceful

protests and the chinese government came

in and killed a bunch of people

it's not what happened it was way more

complicated another thing another lie

that's repeated in the west is that in

china all mention of the tiananmen

square

is banned because nobody knows about it

no everybody knows about tiananmen

square in china it's

regarded as a very tragic um national

event that everyone knows about

um

and the rationale of the government's

actions are well known and repeated

by the through the population itself

which is that

we can't let our country become like

what the soviet union became

um

and people find that argument this to my

the extent of my awareness they find it

pretty convincing

if the u.s saw what u.s is doing in the

u.s the u.s would invade the u.s to

liberate the u.s from the tyranny of the

u.s

this was said by the lebanese permanent

representative to the u.n

this sentence exactly highlights the

hypocrisy the double standard that u.s

has and we do not believe u.s support a

u.s human rights support human at all

in china we believe and we strongly

believe that right to life and right to

health is more important than any other

right because dead people can't speak

and deaf people don't live and therefore

it's very difficult for them to have

rights

and this is demonstrated by the 2020 the

year of 2020 with how the u.s dealt with

covert 19

and if you say otherwise tell that to

that 500 000 people who no longer have

any rights because of how u.s responded

we appreciate accountability materialist

versus idealist do you on display right

here from opposition party we appreciate

having to shout and and provide

alternative facts on on media and press

but however yeah i saw the mehdi hassan

thing

the only reason i don't want to react to

it is one we're gonna probably go on

destiny after this

and two is i already saw it i already

saw the full thing

and i won't i won't be as uh

like i don't i myself don't want to

watch it again

from our perspective we believe having

to live is more important than before uh

did he respond no but i'm sure if i dm

him he'll be available

what is this

um

what is this i i got a dm right now from

someone name

hold on let me read the dm

some of you may know me as

that's right before anything else i'd

say i apologize for using

anyone's content with that let me read

this without

as someone with i already showed it

anyway so

um regarding

so

uh

what

considering this first thing i asked for

permission dude this is kind of extra

you can use our dude um

let me tell him poor guy

dude no

uh it's psa i guess since it needs to be

said

you can use our content

we don't i'm not a intellectual property

monger you can you can upload clips you

can

do whatever you want dude um i'm

confident that

how you know whatever content of us you

use people are gonna find the origin

they're gonna find the source and we're

gonna ultimately benefit so please you

know use whatever you want i have no

objection at all

important than ever and having to work

together having different parties that

work together on a common goal that

brings progress and it's clear whether

it's from property affiliation it's

clear from the economic growth that

china been the only uh

economy that have risen above in

government because they have gotten

under control i'm going to close by um

my statement to talk about why this is

so important and why this this naturally

become more important in 14 in 1949 when

people's republic of china was founded

in 10 months square what is written when

when they raised the first people's

republic of chinese flag it said long

live the great unity of the world's

people long live the people's republic

of china we are in a pursuit of

community of shared future for mankind

for us troops aren't there to create

wars and hurt people displacing 30

million people when they don't have home

and killing 800 000 just since 9 11. for

us since 1947 for more than 40 years

chinese people's liberation army has

never fought a war instead the chinese

military troops is deeply rooted in in

the people have always been part of that

people who are for our interests and

maintaining bonds to share good and bad

times and therefore that's that's why we

passionately believe and propose the

motion that chinese human rights support

human

thank you

thank you kate please it is your turn

well i definitely had less time and

thanks again very impressive i really

like your uh public speaking skills

uh i'll probably be short

and um

as supporting my

team i would say that the us is able to

self-reflect admit weaknesses and

improve

while china grow through cheap labor

right now and this cheap labor is based

on rural kids that are not affected by

fair alcohol

what is the ratio of middle class in

china

compared to the us

how labor unions work in china what is

the longevity of maternity leave and how

to get it in china covet is a moment and

it's a very very strong argument but

it's a one-time situation it's an

emergency situation and it shouldn't be

considered a norm

thank you very much

thank you kate thank you all the

speakers debaters from either side now

we're entering the free debate session

the free debate begins with the

proposition side and every speaker is

allowed to speak but you should bear in

mind that your speech

is limited to no more than 60 seconds

there will be five minutes five minutes

in total allocated to 18.

now the proposition team you may start

i'm going to kick start with the first

question thank you for the third speaker

to mention that the u.s is able to

self-reflect so my question is about

this both china and u.s have faced huge

epidemic before it's nothing new in

china we faced a huge epidemic in sas in

2013 in 2003 when over 300 chinese have

died in 2009 u.s have have faced a

12 000 american death with swine flu so

i want to ask how did u.s over the

decade have learned and self-improve and

why there's still 500 000 deaths right

but again you are talking about pandemic

and epidemic let's look at other

illnesses for example cancer so i want

to understand there's a 500 000 left

life does not matter it's not part of

the human for the u.s side i didn't i

want to clarify that the u.s system is

not viewed it's not prepared for this

overwhelming pandemic no country is well

prepared for this type of pandemic

doctor volcano wait to be fair china

seems like it was pretty well prepared

i mean from where i'm sitting it seemed

like it was prepared ready set that the

u.s health care system is something

overwhelmed the capacity is overwhelmed

by the significance of this this time

then but during the process at least now

we have vaccinations in a short period

of time at least people are getting

vaccinated and people are spoiling those

arteries and improving those conditions

yes it's lucky that china was able to

mobilize millions of people to control

pandemic in a short period come on dude

this is not a good argument it's not

luck

but it's something that chinese systems

are not designed for as well what are

the systematic reforms china has did

after this pandemic to to make sure that

in the future if there's a if a bigger

pandemic happened on how china is going

to deal with still making millions of

people being volunteers and not think

about anything more advanced and more

intelligent right but my question about

self-reflection so i want to understand

what self-reflection have u.s done that

contribute towards how they deal with

over 19. that was my question

u.s has a lot of

medical laboratories who are constantly

researching constantly finding out

potential threats right now even right

now there are reports coming from u.s is

alerting everyone that there's a new

pandemic may be going on in the future

years these are the reforms that the u.s

are currently doing to make sure that

the pandemic will be dealing with my

follow-up question i'm dealt with in my

last is that do you think then through

self-reflection u.s actually did better

in 2019 20 2020 comparing to 2009 with

the swine flu i think usd by this time

but compared with other diseases like

ebola and other types of diseases and

pandemic usa has clearly done a better

job in controlling them

with ebola the us went to west africa

and contained it there so the us is used

to controlling other people outside of

its own borders when it comes to

actually mobilizing its own population

to follow basic norms

i mean it's a civilizational problem

look at what happened in miami just the

other day it's a civilizational problem

there's no ifs or buts about it it's not

because of trump by the way it's

definitely a civilizational issue

in a very early stage so from the first

speaker we just heard that the state

cannot decide what kind of human rights

are there and it sounds like that the us

is reflecting on it maybe it should

decide what kind of human rights it

should protect right isn't that

hypocrisy your name is america and if

the state cannot decide what human

rights are then just like this is what

the first speaker said then why is the

united states intervening other

countries stuff just because they think

that their human rights are not

respected isn't that confliction okay um

you're talking about um united states

invading other countries right but you

also see hong kong the situation in hong

kong with china it's the same situation

um okay guys i mean this is a chinese

media and you know they're not censoring

the hong kong thing so come on you know

it doesn't seem like it's 100 staged i

don't know

how is that the same i think it it may

be it may just be that the the west side

they they're in the university based in

beijing so they may not want to go like

full

super scion mode

um that's my speculation i i doubt it's

actually staged though you know

hey no it's it's it's kind of the same

okay um firstly it is it's definitely

not the same situation i'll be very

brief here number one you mentioned that

how has china learned from 2003 actually

the reason why china was able to

mobilize millions of people at such a

short notice was not an accident was not

a coincidence it was a system that came

in place after the experience of sars

and that system actually did not deliver

100 which is why the few deaths that did

occur also occurred so this is a fact

obviously

my only point is it was not a

coincidence it wasn't an accident it was

a proactive

notice every time people try to critique

china being like imperialistic whatever

it's always stuff that has to do with

china's territorial historical claims

surrounding its own border

and which is historical part of the

historical china before european

colonialism

it's not it's never china having you

know

um

territorial issues with the status of

the government in you know

mozambique or something

government number two you also earlier

mentioned that uh the united states is

intervening in these countries to save

them because these countries are at war

i'm so sorry but let's ask the people of

afghanistan iraq syria even my own

country pakistan were 90 of the deaths

as a result of drone attacks were

civilians innocent civilians and this is

not pakistan's number this is also the

cia's number mostly children so this is

a big problem yes it is different for

the united states to come in countries

and by the way over 30 countries since

2001 alone 369 000 bombs have been

detonated i stated this fact this is

completely different from hong kong

number one let's understand the ground

realities in hong kong but let's also

talk about how would the americans react

if another country like my own country

bombs civilian targets in the united

states that is the comparison and it's

extremely i also think your side has

given very good arguments but how can

you confine the conversation of human

rights within the borders of the united

states this is something that we need to

re-address thank you

i would like to have two responses here

the first is regarding to human rights

because they claim uh that a human right

is defined by the us right but i have

already proved to you why this kind of

political rights is fundamental to human

beings right even if human beings are

ultimately going to make bad results

still it's a principle right that they

should have even if they make bad

results right but secondly they talk

about uh like uh china has more

efficiency in solving all these problems

like uh like pandemic right the firs the

first response is that you should also

consider about the cancer rate right but

second response to that is that to some

extent that is exactly this kind of

efficiency is achieved exactly by

sacrificing human right you are uh

you're you don't want people to actually

actively make choice what people really

want for instance some people just want

more freedom and you are denying these

kind of choices of coming from the

people

okay but we do have to realize that rise

comes with responsibilities no one is

born with any rights rights has to be

earned just because you say you were

born with rest does not really mean so

you have to earn your rights all right

and just now you mentioned maybe some

people wanted freedom but i believe the

majority of people wanted to live they

want to live first before they could

enjoy the freedom if you do not live

there's no freedom at all so that is why

we would like to sacrifice freedom

temporarily to make people safer and

then we could become more freedom yeah

sure uh what we miss here is that as if

no one dies in china and the china solve

all the problems and right now you know

because no one dies in china because

environmental pollution doesn't force to

no new diseases to appear in china if

the cancers rates are not one of the

highest in the world we talk as if there

are no other problems in china but china

solved an issue and right now it can

tell that they can you know uh

be a model to other countries and i feel

like it may be a little bit misleading

propagation side your time is up sorry

only the opposition side can speak now

uh other than that uh well actually i do

agree that i disagree with the us

foreign policy but domestically china is

not doing a great job and we are we kind

of know what i can talk about here but i

don't want to and

everyone just makes their own decision

oh okay this is how i know it's not

staged

what did she just say

damn wait hon that's uh well actually i

do agree that i disagree with the us

foreign policy but domestically china is

not doing a great job and we are we kind

of know what i can talk about here but i

don't want to dude okay

no cg cgtn seems neutral okay this is

okay i know for a fact this is not stage

now i know for a fact it's not stage she

just said

she just took out the yu-gi-oh card and

she was like there's things i want to

talk about but you know i can't talk

about them here

um so she's not a shill you know she's

definitely not a shill no they're not

righteous guys it's not one or the other

just because they're not staging it

doesn't mean that they're taking the

side of the opposition but it seems to

me that the opposition is doing their

best i think she wants to talk about

tiananmen square though or i think she

wants to talk about the situation in

xinjiang one of those two i think those

are like her

her uh

her cards you know she wants to play

those two cards but i think there may be

restrictions in place

um not allowing her to

spread inflammatory shit about xinjiang

separatistic ideas

uh as for tiananmen i'm not 100 sure but

yeah

and

everyone just makes their own decisions

i guess

and conclusions okay time is up guys

thank you thank you for this

free-ranging discussion and debate

now we're entering the final part of

today's debate final focus let's welcome

our fourth debater from each side to

deliver

their concluding remarks beginning this

time with the opposition team please

thank you everyone

let's discuss two things in this video i

think this is general the fact that she

can't talk about kinda is a point for

the west

i don't think so i don't think so i mean

i think um

she can't it's not the reason she can't

talk about it isn't because it would be

such a devastating argument

because china probably has laws against

spreading separatistic propaganda

um and that's generally illegal you know

in general i mean

words matter in china they carry power i

mean no doubt about it words carry power

in china but that also speaks to the

level in which people have power you

know people's words matter i mean in

america your words don't really matter

really what we discussed till now first

about consequence or the outcome that

they chanted so much that china has done

better there's three things they got

discussed firstly is in terms of poverty

but my partner especially my teammates

has mentioned to you poverty alleviation

is just a first step it's something true

it's not it's pretty significant but if

you look at the united states we have a

much bigger and much more viable and

vigorous middle class that were able to

live abundant life they were able to

make choices that they want live a

colorful life and enjoy their life uh

more happily than people who just may

meet their basic lady this is because

u.s has a free market system that enable

anyone who have capabilities to empower

themselves to self-actualize and live a

better life when uh through the system

of free market compared with china a lot

of labor forces when china is due doing

a lot of manufacturing um manufacturing

early stage of open up reform in 1978

are being left over they're unemployed

if you look at northeast china those

three provinces are suffering from

structural employment lack of

lack of birth rates et cetera et cetera

these are the reality that they can't

defend and they can't improve they have

no other choice but to watch them die

out or watch them to be worse off second

thing they mentioned about pandemic i

already clarified to you this is

something no one ever are prepared for

this is something we all aren't prepared

for even for china we still face

shortage of resources in early siege

early stage of pandemic it's lucky that

china can mobilize millions of people as

volunteers to control this pandemic but

till now there's still no structural

reform no technological breakthrough

that makes that that they were able to

you know

not let you millions of volunteers go on

street on daily basis sacrifice their

own personal life but compared with

united states we were already able to

develop i think this is a super weak

argument i think that um

yeah millions and millions of people

being volunteers to combat common

problems is the future i mean with

especially with climate change coming

around the corner i mean

yeah i mean that's there's no way around

the fact that you're gonna need people

on the ground

um

dealing with these crisis who are

volunteers and i yeah

up new uh to develop new solutions to

find out the new potentials rapid fires

as such such thing argue about

intervention how u.s intervening into

our country cause huge damage and

casualty firstly they totally neglect

what i have told you about those country

before you guys ever touched them if

according to china's logic we don't

intervene them then people are leaving

under hell under those dictators people

are leaving other syria governments who

use chemical weapons upon them these are

the things that they think their

inaction is going to lead to on the

united states even though in the process

in the world no one can stop casualty

it's something inevitable but at least

in the process in afghanistan will build

a rain road they connect four major

cities help to rebuild their economy and

help to push out the taliban out of

their territory to a very large extent

for history records we were able to

mobilize democratic for powers in those

uh middle east countries

previously live under dictatorship have

no choice we were able to tell them

there are other ways of leaving and

there are other choices they can make

even though they're not finished even

though okay i wanna

this speaks to something

has cnn

or any other western media ever

platformed pro-china views in the same

way chinese media is right now

platforming pro-western views

i've never seen it

democratic systems are now fully

established in those countries even

though chaotic chaos is still over there

but with united states and its ios help

we were able to make progress and we

were able to track the mistakes we're

making on the way

thank you very much now the proposition

team

so the

opposition side had impeccable logic in

the sense that

they had bought up multiple issues we

are going to summarize our arguments and

detect those issues one by one the first

broad issue that they brought up in the

entirety of the debate is that human

rights are something universal they

existed before we existed and as such

everybody is supposed to be given the

same amount of rights or the same type

of lives we reject the idea of the

universality of human rights because the

universality of human rights does not

come from a higher power but comes from

a particular conception in the united

states in its unique history that all

people are born equal and deserve a

certain set of rights take for example

take one general exam take one

particular example to draw a general

point take freedom of speech

in the united states freedom of speech

is absolute freedom of speech is

enshrined in the constitution and

individuals freedom of speech should not

be infringed even if it affects

collective welfare that is the u.s

approach

now

when it comes to that it's not the

freedom of speech that is being

protected it is the freedom of hate

speech which is being protected now take

other countries for example take china

for example

freedom of speech is enshrined in the

chinese constitution as well they say we

give people the freedom of speech but

their right to freedom of speech ends

when their freedom of speech has broader

real world consequences broader

consequences that affect people way

beyond their

uh way beyond uh no the actions that

they're doing

next we move on

to interventionism and i think that's a

powerful point isn't it you have free

speech

but only where that

speech

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has real world consequences that are

illegal

that's where they draw the line i mean

i don't that seems pretty persuasive to

me

outcomes of those interventionism

our side has said that a country's

conviction towards human rights does not

stop at their border a country's

conviction their dedication towards

human rights spreads as on the basis of

how they treat everyone so the

opposition said that

uh well if you imagine the

counterfactual you know you remember the

counterfactual if the united states had

not intervened these countries would

have been living in objectively worse

times

let's assume that to be true for a

second assume that to be true for a

second you were living under a

dictatorship in libya you were living

under a dictatorship in syria you were

living under a dictatorship in yemen

in a well-built house

and you had basic resources to support

yourself now you are living not in a

dictatorship but in a country which is

at perpetual war with itself

so you are still living in objectively

worse living conditions in a country

which is at a perpetual war with itself

and

at the same time

you are living with much worse resources

than you had before so to summarize the

opposition's points which are very

similar to

say principles of colonialism it is fine

for us to intervene it is fine for you

to

live objectively first life it is fine

for you to live in hunger it is fine for

you to live

uh in the midst of destruction as long

as we leave you a democracy at the end

because that clearly seems to be the

implication

now i would like to reiterate a very

important from my point from our side is

that economic development which came up

multiple times is a process the united

states objectively is at a much higher

pedestal of economic development than we

are we are not talking about absolutes

of economic development but we are

talking about trajectory how human

rights trends in both the countries are

going and if we are looking at

trajectory and trends we certainly

believe that china's version of human

rights is more broadly in the interest

of the people that the american version

of human rights is

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all right thank you very much i want to

thank all of our debaters today

excellent statements speeches that was

really cool wait is it done no it's ten

more minutes um as a per chairperson uh

i'm not inclined to intervene but i just

want to throw out some questions out

there to kind of get ball rolling on

some of the questions that have not been

quite touched here um question number

one i want to ask either side

uh and to get your comment your thoughts

on the situation in xinjiang do you

think the treatment of uyghurs oh

that's what she was talking about

wow okay i'm i don't you know

you guys i'm just making assumptions i

don't even know that china's restricting

talking about it based on

anti-separatists i don't even know what

their their policies are

you know

i'm stupid dude i don't even know what

what is and isn't allowed in china

i mean i'm i was just assuming they're

censoring it

it doesn't look like they are

action

of human rights

let's start with the proposition site

i think i'll try to respond to that so

um first of all uh when we look at the

purpose behind what's happening in

xinjiang it is essentially to

curtail the possible radicalization of

people and radicalization of people in

the region is something that countries

bordering china have experienced

including my own country pakistan so

although i think that a policy that is

trying to re-educate people maybe

sometimes against their will can seem as

if it's limiting their freedom to pursue

their own interests but at the same time

when you look at countries like my own

like afghanistan like some central asian

countries when they were exposed to

these mindsets they also let them fester

unfortunately to some extent and as a

result more people have suffered because

of that i know that in pakistan the peak

of security issues was in 2008 and had

we say back in 2003 back in 2002 when we

knew that certain segments of the

society are vulnerable or susceptible if

we had addressed them at that time if we

had some proactive efforts to reach out

to them and make sure that they don't

feel alienated instead they are being

invited to learn new skills and to be

able to in

incorporate in the broader economic

system at large i think the consequences

could have been far better so there are

no perfect solutions in any part of the

world but if we look at countries that

have suffered the consequences um

perhaps they also appreciate that maybe

they need some similar initiatives to

make sure things don't worsen to a

certain extent it's a violation of

freedom of choice because whether or not

those people truly identify themselves

with the so-called radical ideas it's

still unclear i'm saying that it's not

okay for the chinese government to

dictate to say that okay this is the

life you are going to live in that is

radicalization and there's no

consideration of the results of their

experience whatsoever i'm saying that

the process of de-radicalizing xinjiang

is a process of depriving them of the

choices which are which could have been

deliberated better which could have been

discussed better if we include those

people and share their voice and their

thoughts

to a border sense and discuss with the

rest of people in chinese society so so

a couple points first of all uh the

vocational education and training center

established in uh established in

accordance uh with the law in xinjiang

alright guys this was not a stage debate

they came prepared to address everything

okay so

yeah

different from community correction in

in the us uh in uh in the ddp program in

the uk the distance and disengaging

program in the uk or the

the radicalization center in france

they're all uh all of them are useful

measure in all the countries i mentioned

before and positive exploration of how

they prevent counter terrorism and the

09 of the u.n counterterrorism strategy

and one more thing i just want to add is

that through the law based

counter-terrorism you know

keep keeping that in mind the whole

focus on xinjiang which is such a

strategically vital part of the world

remember what zabernau

jerzynski

i don't know how to say his name

whenever remember what he said about

central asia it's the

global chess board

it's the chessboard of the world

um

this focused hyper focus on xinjiang

um by the west by america specifically

super sus i mean super super sauce

radicalization and vocational training

center why did i pronounce it jabber now

brzezinski

it's

big new

big new

why did i say jabber now i'm such a

fucking idiot

that is in xinjiang region we have not

seen a single violent terrorist case in

the past three years so is it zeb now

z big it's z big

z big new z big now oh it's z big new

z big new berzinski

z big new i'm such okay z big new

brzezinski

by so what i'm trying to say is that

with the mean and the end they're both

justified they're both legal and aligned

with the u.n uh and and the uk france et

cetera and it also have an impact in

effect

the big new

speak

speak new what a weird such as tough

name to pronounce wow

of not having any other strikes but just

a very short question why the

terroristic attacks happened before in

xinjiang it's the same reason of why usb

is justified to bomb iraq and and

afghanistan and syria et cetera

yeah but again they're all terrorists

attack in in their own right that is

against the the values and violate human

rights and in outside we want to protect

our own citizens and this we believe

better support it was the response of

xinjiang to

um

the governance like the beijing

government by basically right

because people are dying and we want to

protect our own citizens and this is one

of them and and on the side of that by

the way um this also bring up um the

economy of this enjoyment allowing them

liberty and allowing them to get work

whether it's educating with the common

language of china mandarin or giving

them skills so they have more things to

do other than

following okay guys if i'm

if i'm a us

state department st deep state type of

guy

cia and i'm thinking huh how do we

break china you know just like the

soviet union

remember that the first thing they're

going to be focusing on

before they even focus on

student liberal

protests they're going to be focusing on

national antagonisms because china has

what is it 44 55 something

dozens and dozens of ethnic minorities

within china that's what the us is going

to go for okay

um it's common sense

do you believe that the area with

already established language needed to

learn a new language to improve their

economic situation considering that they

have the largest oil reserves in the

whole country of course not but we're

giving them options of course yeah yeah

okay guys let's move on to our last and

final topic hong kong do you think

what's happening in hong kong especially

uh the latest patriotism requirements

the national security legislation are a

violation of

human rights on the ground in hong kong

so

again um

zone here we go through

very similar philosophical uh

foundations in some areas i'm from india

we have our own share of separatist

movements now

again sometimes

we have the opinion that there are many

things that countries tolerate there are

many things a country should not

tolerate one of them is separatism so if

i take uh you know you deal with

separatism

in

using methods which are applicable to

those particular places

so if you ask me what is happening in

hong kong and whether we are supportive

or not we are supportive of not

supporting separatism no matter what it

takes to control it if a particular

region's political system sort of allows

for it to promote separatism then the

natural response of the government is to

amend the political system in a way that

it does not curtail their civil

liberties to a very large extent but at

the same time solves the underlying

problem of

separatism

anyone wants to say anything here yes i

think it's not okay to call it

separatism for people living in certain

countries they might want to identify

themselves with another country it's not

what's another lifestyle another version

of life that exists somewhere else in

the world they should be granted freedom

to express their thoughts it should be

granted the right to deliberate those

interests through the political system

so that's why this is what hong kongers

initially was asking what about the war

of northern aggression huh

come on guys wait

the u.s had a war of separatism the

south wanted to secede they decided we

want to secede there was a war of

northern aggression

um

now if you tell me you know

well it was about slavery

it's besides the point it was it's about

sovereignty of a people who want to be

separate from the north

you know um

nobody nobody wants to bring that up

before the universal suffrage to decide

on how hong kong nurses should rule them

uh rule themselves this is where i think

it's a clear violation of people's right

to uh right to assemble and as well as

the right to identity and second i think

even in a process where it is true that

a lot of hong kongers and protesters end

up being having really radical and

violence uh pro masses of protesting but

a lot of times it's also not okay for

the police to use much better arm much

better gear and equipment to surprise

people who oftentimes do not have such

strong uh strong power to to fight

against a very powerful country and very

powerful government machine so this is

where i think in two regards there's a

certain proportion a certain extent of

violation of human rights so a quick

rebuttal

particularly to your point of uh police

brutality tell that to that one thousand

one hundred citizens who get killed by

police

in the us so and throughout the whole

entire time for over a year no one were

killed by the police but yet in

washington when it happened in the

capital sixth person will six person die

just within a span of just one week and

and and my response is that 3.1 is that

a resounding no it is not a violation of

human rights and if that's the case the

u.s also violated human rights since u.s

also have national security law so

having national security law alone

doesn't second is that whether we

believe in rule of law or not and us

have continuously recognized hong kong

as a special administrative region of

china that has rule of law in the basic

law the freedom and the rights are

protected freedom of speech freedom of

publication association assembly

possession of demonstration they're all

being protected by the rule of law in

hong kong basic law and last but not

least the national security law only

addressed four different areas that

includes terrorism activity that

includes subversion succession and

collusion with foreign country

particularly the last one i will hope

u.s would also agree this is need to be

protected from foreign powers do you

know any securities movement happening

in the u.s for almost any question you

have about the u.s the answer is always

so my answer would be

national security law in the us so

therefore that is why

wow the national security law in hong

kong as a part of china as well yeah

the answer is always texas

i won't have a very big response on

police brutality right i think it's

probably depend on different contacts

because in us he will just have guns

right so that is probably that police

will seen those as deliver the potential

to kill them that is why a lot of like

please brutality happen right all right

thank you so much we'll have to leave it

there thank you all so very much for our

proposition team as well as the

opposition team um it's a fantastic

debate i don't know who the winner is i

want to ask our viewers who do you think

has been the winner of today's debate uh

china or the u.s which country supports

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something exploded in the western part

of the swamp made the ground tremble

devil knows what it was i see you're

curious investigated if you have a death

wish i think it happened in the junkyard

apart from easter here in marcenac

there's one more boy of mine my precious

darling a blessed child one rest her

hand on the occasion oh wait is this the

mother of the seven boys

as allah fills our tanks with clean air

for this we're forever grateful to him

for the clean air for the oxygen tanks

for this beautiful mask

trees with his own hands brought it here

to us

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scott bradley 9.99

did you know the dimples on a golf ball

create a turbulent flow of air around

the ball as it travels this turbulent

flow creates a cushion reducing drag and

allowing the ball to stay aloft longer

nice

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simple map scribbled on a piece of

crumpled paper a piece of paper okay i

dm'd

he didn't respond

that's okay

oh he might go on train wrecks

all right let's take some uh

i don't think we're gonna have any

callers everybody who watches us is in

our community i think

i do have some more content

one two seven three no no no no no no no

no no no

no

no no no no no no no no

i need to get that song out of my head

honest honest to god

i'm not praying calling nobody go on

train wrecks

maybe destiny will

get us on train wrecks should a gorilla

call in nah it's

okay it was always better when we got

like random haters and shit when we got

like random people but nobody has balls

to do that anymore

i don't think we have any hate watchers

anymore you know

i don't think we have any um

any hate watchers damn

none all of us

are guerrillas here

um

have we purged all the haters no

actually maybe we did let me let me look

at the ban appeals maybe we can review

ban appeals on stream

um

nope there's no unbanned requests

there's no unban requests

yeah we'll get hate watchers by going on

streams

um

yeah it might be the youtube people were

more hate watchers definitely

definitely

um

i ha let's just look at the content we

have lined up now

because i want to check this out

wait this is more cgtn stuff let me see

this poverty alcoholism high suicide

rate

imagine these words being associated

with the united states one of the

world's most prosperous countries this

is what many native americans are

struggling with daily what got these

original masters of the land into such

plight and who should be responsible for

it

in 1830 the indian removal act was

signed into law by u.s president andrew

jackson it authorized a u.s president to

grant lands west of the river

mississippi in exchange for indians and

central lands

it sounded like a negotiation

but it was not

now

you can have

the chinese government's going hard

talking about this shit now

like you want to air our dirty laundry

we'll you know we're we'll go hard too

thanks they're definitely you know you

can keep your sovereign team but you

can't keep your land

but if you keep your land and you bring

on eugenics con if he wants i'll bring

him on right now if he wants

to assimilate and no longer be indian

you will have sovereignty or you have

your land you can't have both

after feudal struggles native americans

were forced to embark on a journey of no

return for the survival of their tribes

countless people starved to death became

ill and were killed along the way

that really was a road of death people

were falling on the side of the road or

being shot or being murdered on the road

and being left there

the removal process was done in a way

that was not efficient in making people

survive

the journey of some traps was so tragic

that today the bloody march is known as

trail of tears

although indian traps were not

physically wiped out culturally the

american government decided to implement

assimilation programs for native

americans by establishing the indian

boarding schools

native american kids were taken to these

schools by the u.s government's bureau

of indian affairs

away from the reservation and away from

their families for years

they were forcefully stripped of their

indian identity and culture

their indigenous languages were

forbidden and their names were replaced

by european names

all ways of life were compelled to be in

line with mainstream american culture

yuda i know who yuda is but the

community doesn't want them

the community said they don't want them

i'm looking at the come on show requests

right now

what based on the discussion we had in

vc you're not worthy of going on the

show

but that's our mod to be fair that was

our mod

they are cringe dude they're they're

also you know

they're not like a

they're old news you know

butcher

a famous quote from an american general

who developed the first of a reservation

indian boarding school revealed

the essential purpose of the u.s

government to do so

killed yeah yudah has been on so many

times probably more than anyone hating

him and save the man

there were reports that students in the

boarding schools were beaten and forced

to do heavy labor

one native american revealed that the

boarding schools she attended wasn't

really about education

they did not learn basic mathematic

concepts or even english grammar

another recalled the brutal beating of a

student by an advisor

he still has nightmares about the severe

punishment and discipline there

native americans have been left behind

in terms of leading standards compared

to other u.s races

in 2017 the percentage of native

americans living in poverty was

estimated at 26

you want to know why i think people are

too scared to come on now

because of our neocock video that i i've

nev dude that would they caught me at

such a bad mood

and they

every all of our it scared the shit out

of all of our haters they were like

[Laughter]

that i think that's what scared them all

off they're like holy shit

i will never

i will never be yelled at like that i'll

cry

compared with 14.6 for the united states

as a whole

native americans have a life expectancy

of five points because before that video

people would talk shit and be like i'll

come on all the time

but after no one

none of our hate watchers ever have the

balls to come on anymore after that five

years lower than all other u.s races

and a higher mortality rate due to

chronic diseases including diabetes

chronic liver diseases and cirrhosis

the youth suicide rate for native

americans is the highest across all

ethnic and racial groups in the united

states

seventeen percent of native americans

attended post-secondary education

compared to sixty percent among the

total u.s population

modern history has deprived them of

their wow

peaceful life and brought them great

trauma

to cure

the collapse of trust in government

might be the first authority problem to

tackle

but

when will their voices be heard

damn

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oh shit

yeah guys two can play at these games

you know

that's what's going on

four

he still hasn't responded

two can play at these these games you

know two can play at them definitely

um let's look at our

links hold on

i wanted to watch this video

who's that guy you potnick this episode

was made in collaboration with you

gopnik

i wanted to check this out be sure to

check out we'll uh

double speed it

it might be shit might be good we'll see

here video after this

if you were born at any point after the

80s odds are the entirety of your life

experience has been one of crisis four

people my age our form of years were

filled with the consequences of your

activity now our earliest memories

include 911 and the invasion of rock

under all three senses then we have the

2000 housing crash the realization that

the limit change is near a point in the

return the acceleration of suicidal

regulation improvisation which has lower

infrastructure we can fragile the

skyrocketing cost of tuition saddling

young people who are told college was

the only way to succeed with

insurmountable debt and increasingly

worthless degrees we've seen the birth

and rapid rise of the economy relegating

huge portions of the population for

carry and poverty and of course we've

watched our code response become the

worst in the world despite having

advanced knowledge of the danger and

plenty of resources to handle the

situation appropriately for millennials

and younger generations there's no such

thing as the good old days we never

experienced them we'll cover that topic

more early in a future video but in this

week's episode we're going to examine

why the u.s seems to be completely

incapable of handling crises now this

video could easily be over an hour long

the past few decades have seen alarming

acceleration in christmas management and

it would take way too long to cover them

all we're just going to focus on a

handful of them before we get to the big

ones let's start with a very american

problem obesity at first glance you

wouldn't necessarily think the politics

of crisis

the first thing he talks about when he's

talking about the crisis in america is

obesity like

why america can't handle a crisis what

are americans known for

it's the fir right off the bat it's the

first thing numbers in the us things

become a bit more grim as of 2018 42.4

of all american adults were obese that

number increased drastically between

2000 and 2018 shooting up by nearly 12

percent while several visiting nearly

doubled from 4.7 percent

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i really want to see cgtn start covering

this and be like the amer slowly sneak

this america be like yeah the american

obesity problem is huge

between the ages of 2 and 19 nearly 1 in

5 are obese now obesity doesn't just

mean you're overweight it's a serious

condition it comes with a whole stew of

problems heart disease stroke type 2

diabetes and increases inability to

certain types of cancer not to mention a

lower quality of life and shorter

average lifespan the fact that nearly

half of american adult are obese should

be a huge red flag according to one

study conducted in 2008 the estimated

annual medical cost obviously in the us

was a staggering 147 billion dollars and

judging by the increased prevalent

obesity in the year since we can only

assume that costs aren't dramatically

obesity causes nearly one in five deaths

in the us that's a crisis and it's not

talked about nearly enough now some

people simply tell those suffering

obesity to eat better and that's not

unreasonable but the roots of the crisis

go far beyond individual responsibility

back in the 50s president eisenhower had

heart attack which sparked a scientific

or the cause of obesity which was known

to cause heart disease there were two

main schools of thought one led by

british theologists and nutritionists on

youtube and the other banshees and

americans china also has this problem to

be fair

does it

just you can believe that obviously

he said he'll let me he'll talk to me

tomorrow

damn when did he say that

what the fuck

hold on let me pull it up he'll talk to

me tomorrow

clip

oh

he didn't dm me it's probably my last

night here and then i'm i'll go to sleep

i'll get a load on the docket for

tomorrow

he got it right

here infrared wants to talk to you um

tell them

um

tell them to message me tomorrow i can

do it

almost like i can do it tomorrow no not

tonight i'm so tired tonight

andrew wants to talk to you um fuck

dude he acts like i'm this huge streamer

like and he has to talk to me

i'm literally a nobody on twitch

i'm flattered

dude tomorrow's gonna be sick

yeah tomorrow

tomorrow gotta get the eye on the prize

he thinks you wanna debate him

what i need is a re i need a army of

fact checkers and fact givers because

when he likes like what are you talking

about give me like an article or

something because you know it's all too

up top in my head

um

prepare yeah i'll prepare a little bit

and tomorrow's perfect honestly it's

perfect

tomorrow works really well for me too

but

that's sick

thought it was caused by fat eventually

it became apparent that young was

correct sugar was the culture behind

condition but wait if we identify the

cause all the way back in the 50s why is

the problem so much worse today well the

sugar industry didn't take leave the

scientific findings they found this

information campaigns and lobby the

government watch the paul morin video on

china

i don't really want to

i don't really find paul morin i know no

no no uh

beef no beef no beef just me personally

i don't really find him content i just

don't find him that interesting

you know

it's just me but he's doing successful

he's pretty successful he's more

successful than us i think still right

now so you know i'm not one to judge i'm

just saying me personally i don't really

find him that interesting

initiative maintain their profits this

not only help them current profits yeah

i'll stream 720p

tomorrow 100 i'll stream 720p

um

yeah youtube when we stream with youtube

we get like an extra 100 views than we

have now you know

um

it's not going to be easy building up

the twitch community but let's test it

let's see if we can and if we can then

we'll know it's a good decision if we

can't

um we might you know we might have to

stay

he uses rawls to frame some of his

arguments he's a physicalist

and he's an egoist

why does he call himself a marxist

leninist then

our diet

he's pro markets and capitalism then

what's his problem with

china

oh you're talking about destiny oh i

know about destiny

um

i know about destiny's whole like

consequentialism or whatever

yeah i know a little bit about destiny

i thought you were talking about paul

moore and i was like what

this information campaign that ended up

increasing the amount of sugar in our

foods thereby worsening the very

probably wanted to dissolve keep this

result in mind because we begin to know

this pattern so what have we done to

combat obesity in the decades

institutional studies well not much some

states have tried to implement sugar

taxes but on the whole we haven't even

made a dent in crisis it's only getting

worse in the case of obesity not only

are we able to handle it our capitalist

system caused it a giant industry wants

to keep money so they threw the american

people under the bus but i honestly had

some junk food today some chick-fil-a

some fried chicken

and some fries

and damn dude

that was good as fuck

it was the highlight of my day problem

for over half a century now let's move

on to one of the big crises one that

affects not only the us but the entire

world climate change whether you think

humans are influencing the climate

change or not the data is clear our

climate is changing dramatically and

rapidly sea ice is melting at

unprecedented rates crossing a horizon

ceiling what is that

all right i don't want to talk about

china tomorrow i don't want to talk

about china with destiny

um

i want to talk about

something else

besides china

we're not like uh

weeaboos but the chinese version okay we

respect and admire china we want to

learn from china

but china have their own business and

they have their own problems

and we don't want to be like

you know

up all up in their business is the point

the whole point is that

we can't be up all in their business we

don't we want to get people to stop

being up all in their business you know

do you want to take collins

if people want to come on go on the show

queue and i'll see but we we it's better

if we have random people preferably

haters

level the oceans are becoming more civic

leading to the annihilation of coral

reefs violent weather events become far

more common and we're beginning to see

thousands of storms drops and floods

every few years thousands of species are

a risk of extinction disease okay let me

update the title actually

taking random collins

okay taking random collins

i'm updating the title

see updated it is able to get farther

and faster thanks to longer one seasons

and entire regions are coming unlovable

in early 2020 called the final years of

metro which documented the effects of

sea level rise and more islands i saw

first hand what will happen to the world

coastal regions and islands they're

going underwater their populations will

have to evacuate or be destroyed since

the u.s likes to think itself as the

leader of the world surely where the

forefront of the climate change

indication right well no in fact we're

not even close the united states is one

of the few places on earth where elected

officials openly deny the existence of

climate change the climate doesn't care

whether you're a democrat or republican

or to go to certain internet person

facts don't care about your feelings we

have the facts climate change is

happening so why do our politicians even

the one to acknowledge the crisis refuse

to address the problem you won't be

surprised to learn that once again

corporate interests and in the way in

order to understand the present

situation let's take a trip back to the

late 70s towards the end of the decade

and into the 80s excellent was at the

forefront of climate research not

because they particularly cared about

the planet but because they wanted to

understand the effects of the changing

climate do better position themselves

against a competition in the future for

example when they began drilling in the

oversea in the canadian arctic next on

scientists wonder whether being free co2

emissions would warm the region enough

to make the voyage and extract less

stretches and they're more profitable

with goals like these and mine excellent

began connecting some of the most

throughout the changes to date between

1986 and 1992 the company used and

developed cutting edge models to

understand the effects of co2 and other

greenhouse gases on the climate

accumulated incredibly valuable data to

use the both for c example again next on

science department that should happen

through excel two concentrations double

and they're predicted by 150. the

regions open water season would like

them from two months to three possibly

even five they underestimated how

quickly atmosphere co2 accumulates but

they were exactly correct about the

lighting of the both open water season

and this is just one example their

models also accurately predicted rising

temperatures dramatically weather severe

ice loss droughts floods and all manner

of other thought

jennifer stop

it's not true

you're very wrong

i didn't turn in that paper it's due

two weeks from now

and

yeah i where i haven't even gotten into

the worst part yet

of law school i'm still in the thick of

it

consequences to their actions and all of

this was collected not with the

intention of curbing the fallout but of

understanding how they could best

position themselves to take advantage of

the changing climates as this horse

around climate change so speak nexon

wasn't positioned to do some real good

they had some of the best data available

and it would have made a huge difference

in understanding how best to mitigate

the consequences of climate fallout

instead they chose to do the same thing

sugar industry did they funded

opposition groups launched information

campaigns and buried their own internal

studies so that the public would never

learn what they discovered four decades

exxon and other oil and gas giants made

huge sums of money to suppress the facts

and lobby politicians too so confusion

and distress of essential science it

wasn't until the mid-2000s that next one

finally distanced themselves from some

of the more outspoken clients

can i tank or pill you guys

no i can't i honestly don't have the

information organized or prepared but i

really really want kantbot and ed bergon

to tanker pill you guys but

they are

i consider them higher value

guests than fucking pewdiepie like

they're not you know they're not just

anyone you know

yeah

they're not just gonna come on you know

willy-nilly

but to this day they play a major role

in supporting the effort to do anything

about climate change and they continue

to fund climate denying politicians who

have secure oil and gas profits to the

detriment of the entire human race next

on denies this of course but if you'd

like to see the evidence for yourself

live life links to their internal

documents and to investigate study on

matter and description today thanks to

no small part of the great fossil fuel

companies we are years behind where we

should be when it comes to getting

climate fallout yeah in the u.s we can't

even retire at all so again just like

with the obviously crisis we are not

only capable of solving the problem our

capitalist system created the problem

let's move on to our final crisis around

virus we are now right around the one

year marker when americans really began

to realize just how serious the problem

was in the past year over 500 thousand

americans have died coded we've had more

cases and more deaths than anywhere else

on earth this is despite the fact that

we have most limited resources depend on

overcoming crises like this one if we're

really the greatest country on earth why

has our run of ours responsible one of

if not the worst in the world as oh you

know why we don't have

a lot of hate watchers right now it's

because i disabled the chat for

non-followers so if you want to chat at

all you have to follow us

if you want to chat whatsoever you have

to follow us should i disable that

because i can disable that right now

i just wanted to increase our followers

disable it yeah i'll disable it right

now

followers only chat

off

i'm disabling it

okay now the haters can come

as always to better understand the

situation we need to rewind a bit when

covey first came to the states the

official response as with climate change

was denial it immediately became a

political issue if trump were to take

the necessary measures to ensure the

public safety he believed he would tank

his personal rating and his economic

numbers unsurprisingly both thank you

any progress on having ed berger

no progress dude um

we're still gonna talk to urban maoism

we're gonna have like a whole separate

episode just talking to him

um

but you know i res i've i talked to him

before but you know he's a busy he's a

really busy guy you know

anyway after america started dropping

like flies but the story of our cover

response is not just about politics the

disease outbreak is perhaps the only

thing able to reveal all the little

cracks in the country's armor at the

same time conservative player we didn't

want to go into lockdown because that

was government overreaching the rallying

right take up conservative voters of

course the politicians and wealthy

business smokers didn't really care

about government overreach they just

want to make sure american workers kept

working so the executives could contain

their profits once it became apparent

that we would have to force some kind of

lockdown things started snowball many

american businesses operate on razor

than margins to reduce costs and

maximize profits so when they lost

business they immediately had to lay off

their workers in order for their storm

since american health care site to

employment those millions of workers

suddenly found themselves without

paycheck or access to the medical care

if they became sick you know something

happened off in a pandemic since our

country likes even the best provisions

for the unemployed millions of

households still running out of money

they couldn't pay rent landlords are

some of those people who understand

operations relying on their tenants to

pay off their properties they begin with

their tenants over the next few months

millions of americans can track it and

our bizarre session

wear a mask a tiny simple piece of cloth

that's proven to be effective and

helping prevent this disease our case

numbers exploded becoming the worst in

the world hospitals were overrun we had

to start taking mass graves the people

who could get hospital that would no

longer for the medical bills because

they didn't have insurance hundreds of

thousands of people went into tremendous

debt because the u.s is the only

developed country not have some form of

universal health care while the country

was falling apart democrats and

republicans continue to make the

situation worse republicans railed

against mass mandates and asserted that

the disease was no worse than the flu or

there was a chinese hoax and the

democrats paid liberals to the science

but lied about how well they're handling

their cities outbreaks but the

politicians are not the only ones to

blame the general public must bear some

of the shame as well despite mountains

of data on both dangerous diseases

all right before we have haters we're

gonna have there's someone from

australia wants to talk about the

situation all right let me just say this

is gonna be five to ten minutes so

um

this is gonna be our first

call-in someone from australia

what's up

you hello yeah i could hear you

ah sweet um hi let me on

what's up

not much um

just wanted to i mentioned it in the in

the chat but i wanted to talk about

um

i guess australia a bit uh both it's

sort of like relating to the synthetic

left question and the sort of

civilizational question

um

because it seems that a lot of left here

is really bad at this and

you had a lot of good takes on

sure yeah okay sure for sure

uh yeah but like um

so

the thing that i wanted to discuss was

just uh because i think there are a lot

of similarities between australia and

the us

um

particularly relating to like well both

like a settler country so we could have

a kind of

like kind of not a real kind of

civilization aspect to it

um

i think you put it better but uh

um

there's a sort of a real tendency to

sort of like on the left here to just

have a very anti

like an anti-australia kind of as as a

default

um as opposed to kind of constructing a

new kind of

vision

um

and i suppose i wanted to get your takes

into like

um

i guess how you move forward with that

particularly because the biggest issue

people want to talk about is like

chauvinism basically

um

and yeah

um

in order to know about australia

i would have to know

um

i don't know anything about australia

honestly i just i would have to know

about who are the australian people what

do they do for a living like what is the

mainstay of the i know they they do

extracting minerals for the economy but

like

what do what is the australian peasantry

what do they do for a living you know

the

well

the poorest areas in the

society you're cutting out a little bit

i am

is this better

yeah it's better um

because we started an agricultural

uh economy particularly exporting sheep

with wool sorry i should say um to

england

um that aspect has sort of remained and

so the uh the biggest contradiction it

seems to be is this sort of

um

the land question really at the end of

the day um

and this is this so this was at the

basis of the the founding of trade

um and it is still a huge part of the

economy um and

i think in the country is sort of where

you see a lot of

really interesting political expressions

um

the example i like to give because it's

a contemporary one that a lot of

australians are aware of is the party

that's called the qatar's australia

party

and they hold um i guess you could call

them

uh

economic uh

nationalists

and social conservatives

they support nationalizing these the big

uh coals and woolworths which are just

the big

um

supermarket chains

um which is a very progressive policy

economically speaking

um and and quite a few other i they're

generally referred to as like

protectionists

uh in that sense uh and they're the base

in queensland and queensland as a state

is uh

generally derided in the cities like in

melbourne and sydney i live in melbourne

um

as being very backwards um very very

right-wing

but historically that wasn't the case

historically

um the only communists to ever be

um to parliament was in queensland

um

not in the city either um and it's just

a fun fact really but uh

um yeah there seems to be a general

disconnect between

um the attitudes of people in the

metropoles

and

and the country which is a very very

common theme i think

especially in these settler countries

um so you mentioned so sorry i must have

missed so queensland is agriculture

um well generally all the states have

agricultural bases really um so my

state's victoria so even even still it's

it's based in agriculture

yeah there's still a huge there's like a

big export exactly

um we have we still have protectionist

policies around our banana industry for

instance

um so there's like tariffs and shit um

so we don't take we're not cheap bananas

from like the philippines um

we we have our own um

we have our own uh basis there like i

said like a huge part of the economy is

still like

um it's like agricultural mining and

like service it's like kind of the

biggest kind of thing i would say

in so in queensland just as a broad

brush kind of broad picture what is the

average joe what do they do for a living

what's their profession

um it really depends so in the in the

country you have a lot of people who

are

i guess small farmers

um

and you have people who are

but you have a lot of people who are

working

farms that are especially effectively

owned by

bigger land owners um the majority of

the land

is owned by

um a small number of

big agribusinesses

um

but i don't know if that constitutes the

majority because i

australia has a lot of concentration in

the cities

um

i think probably even more so than

america

um

so i think probably majority are still

in the city but

um in the country you would have people

who are uh in these like uh

both working small lots of land

um and you also have a lot of uh

immigrant labor that gets shipped in

usually from pacific islands pacific

local pacific islands

who

uh they get to

do sort of like uh

how would you describe it like a

they uh pick they do they're like a

piecemeal work

i suppose um but they aren't citizens

they're just uh they're just like

foreign laborers some emotional then i

answered the question

but uh so so i'm kind of getting there's

a lot of

farm workers

it's kind of strange to me because here

in the u.s

the the picture is that they're coal

miners or they're auto industry workers

and then farm work tends to be

exclusively almost exclusive this

stereotype is at least done by

immigrants

yeah i mean most of the manual work i

think is done by

most of it but there are smaller lanes

um which are operated by i guess you

could call them like tease them more

marxist terms like sort of petty

i guess petty bourgeois so there's a big

proportion of small

small farmers who own their own land

basically

effectively

but so but you said their land is owned

by big landowners so

is uh um

yeah like there's a there's a large uh

sort of there's a dynamic where like

they are basically

even though they technically

the land

uh and they do kind of work on it um

they have to sell their products produce

sorry to

um these things like holes on wilbur so

these big

um distributors

um and there's a lot of tension between

them um and there is so that there's two

things going on there's both these uh

smaller farmers who have to sell to

these large monopolies and there's also

this general big landowners which is

separate

um and um and there's sort of tension

between kind of all of them

so okay that it makes sense because here

in the us we have monsanto and they're

they're always getting into conflicts

with small farmers so i would so this

basically seems like there's a they're

restricted in terms of the produce they

can sell this is a source of a lot of

animosity and then i could also take a

leap and guess that the big landowners

are trying to take the small landowners

land basically they're trying to swallow

them up effectively yeah there's a big

there's a sort of a

pressure for that and this and this is

the thing that i've always

had conversations with someone like

indigenous comrades is that the kind of

there's a sort of shared interest

between um sort of the indigenous

population and

the sort of smaller

um

to sort of make to to do land

but that's really not given a lot of

political expression at all

like i would say at all like on the left

especially it's not even talked about

like when it comes to indigenous issues

um

they only focus on cultural stuff

usually and when to

farmers they basically just kind of

write them all off the action

so

both those elements are still there

when unity there but it's not given

expression at all

so

what what um

these big landowners i guess they're big

corporate corporate agriculture

basically right and

so are they associated with the general

australian

establishment then right

um usually yeah there are more there are

essentially like a there's a lot of

european

uh

anglo-anglo-american investment that's

the majority of the

those like there's a lot of

fear-mongering about china

um china bought the port of darwin

um which is a it's a relatively

significant port in the north of the

country

um and this this was this huge like

political like uh upheaval here whenever

china does any investment

and deal because there's a lot of

xenophobia here the huge like that was

actually a founding reason for

federation was the sort of fear of china

um and i think you're probably aware of

like the role that australia has been in

that with america

um in terms of the sort of war against

china

um but this also translates to the

economic act because yeah you have these

um lots of multinational

large like most like the

mining territory

um because a large part of it is

probably in australia there's a lot

large part of it's not actually uh

agrarian

it's sort of uh

i don't know what the word is but like

inhospitable or whatever like

not really but like the people are still

technically living there but it's a lot

of us just using mining and that which

is the majority of land

that's owned largely

uh some of them are australian like bhp

that's in australia sorry uh you um you

cut out who's it owned by

um

sorry

um

one of the biggest mining companies here

is bhp

broken hill petroleum i think it is

um so there are like kind of national

um like australian sort of like national

bourgeois uh big uh landowners but

there's also these uh largely european

anglo-us

uh

companies who earn a lot of land here as

well so as far as proportions is

concerned how much is divided between

chinese american european and english

and so on for example oh

in terms of foreign investment like uh

hong kong has more investment in

australia than china does

which is great

i looked at i looked at the stats and

china does have a decent amount of

investment here but our economic

relationship is primarily just trade um

the reason why australia was able to

avoid a recession

um like we had the last recession we had

before the covert one was

uh in i think 91

and then we had this long period of time

we basically kind of dodged the gfc in a

lot of ways

um

in 2008 um

and a big part of that was to do with

our trading relationship with china

china basically carried

through their trade but in terms of like

kind of investment and ownership they

don't actually own like a ton

um it's it's proportionally way more

the us and uh european which is why

there's so much xenophobia focus on

china's investment because

the majority is you

wait so

so you basically that implies that

the anti-china sentiment is not organic

but is from the top down then i would

guess because if china doesn't own as

much as the rest and it seems like it

could be top down you know

yeah yeah basically i mean effective of

like

like this there's an interesting history

like uh it goes back

well even before federation like uh i

don't know if you've i don't know if you

know anything of the sort of

pre-federation history of australia but

a very sick

uh part of working-class history in

australia is the eureka stockade the

eureka rebellion do you know about that

no i'm not familiar at all um it was in

my state of victoria it was this

basically there was a big gold rush in

the in the 1800s and um you had a lot of

miners

um

coming in both domestically but also

from abroad like a lot of them from

china as well

and you did have this sort of uh you

have this point of real unity um against

the colonial government who were had

some really shitty laws around um

licensing fees and shit and they were

generally and so there was this big

rebellion and then it was a sort of

aligned with the charterest movement

okay um it was sort of like the pre kind

of labor i think marx even wrote about

it at some point um

but um

basically why i'm mentioning this is

because um not long after there was

additional

um

riots like race riots um between these

sort of like uh

settler europeans and chinese

miners

um and i think so it i think it is a one

level top down but there is a kind of

bottom-up

sort of element to it in terms of

chauvinism

um but even then i have no idea how much

of that was stoked from the top back

then we don't really know i would say

probably

but um a large part of it is top is top

down because uh

for a while like in the early 2010

um when our relationship with china was

probably at its best

i think there was a lot less xenophobia

um

but it's it's definitely wrapped up

since then

all right unfortunately it's got to be

the last question because we got to wrap

it up um right to get more people in but

uh last question i have is one thing

that always struck me

that's difficult about australia is that

from a geopolitical perspective it seems

very lonely

um yeah

i wonder what is the destiny of

australia what future can it have

how can australia have a true

sovereignty free from american

and european

being a kind of instrument of american

european interests in the world what

does it mean for there to be an

independent truly independent

australia that

rather than being a co a type of

you know colony of europe

uh geopolitically and

historically and so on

um what do you what do you think about

that how how do how do you think about

that kind of issue

um

this is a really like kind of a big

question here as well

and there's no real easy

but there's a big part of it i think um

you could sort of see roots of it in

the whitlam coup

that occurred in the 70s

um

where uh our prime minister at the time

goff whitlam wanted to basically make us

not align

um which was very significant they

wanted to pull us out of the vietnam

and they kind of wanted to maintain a

bit more

orientation and they just cooed him

um so

in terms of the within the parliamentary

system i don't know if it actually is

possible i think that australia owns

current trajectory is

really

kind of hiltering it's filtering its

horse behind america and i think that's

gonna just kind of destroy the country

event

um if the us continues to decline which

i think it will objectively

i think

australia's in for a pretty bad road um

and i think that really only a kind of

like a new well thing is we're still a

monarchy right so the republic questions

hasn't even been answered yet this is

also what i wanted to talk about in

terms of the civilizational aspect is

that

uh it's always been the labor movement

of republican

and i think a socialist republic is the

only way you can achieve this

um

how we go about that i'm really

sure i mean

the kind of easy answer just revolution

but that's like

concretely

it's a really hard one and it's one that

i think a lot of the left doesn't even

because of the whole like anti-australia

sentiment there's no even like idea as

to like what would a

australian republic actually look like

you know there's not much even

formulation about but it would have to

be on mutual grounds we're in asia so

we'd have to have a relationship

but i think that most australian people

would probably want like not to be a

colony of anyone i don't think that i

don't think china would make

i just think that like there's a lot of

fear that's going to happen it's like a

big fear here and

i don't know we have to

we're trying to work that out ourselves

locally but

it's a really fucking hard question

because

i don't know this is not really an easy

answer beyond just you need to be a

socialist republic so

yeah i i personally don't know enough

about australia i know very little about

i'm sure if i you know had a feel of the

country more and you know was especially

if i if i'd been there before and you

know understood the people there more

i'd i myself would be able to

have a better time trying to understand

that but thank you so much for coming on

the show was really insightful and

really interesting

and that was great

for sure um do you have anything you

want to shout out or

uh yeah um

i guess uh shout out to the australian

communist party um and shout out to the

community union defense league

the kind of orcs that i get involved

with they got a really good line in

terms of

establishing an independent

um kind of away from the kind of faux

left um not tailing the australian labor

party which is completely

tucked

uh and uh yeah so

up them check out their website

ozcp.org.iu

check out the

program

for sure for sure um that's good thank

you so much

thank you

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