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I'm going good thing. The Welcome, Gorillas. I hope you enjoyed your 30-minute intro. I know you guys love long intros. It's your favorite thing, clearly. Clearly you treasure and love the long intros. It's your favorite thing, clearly.

Clearly, you treasure and love the long intros.

So, you know, it'll just keep having long intros because you guys love them so much.

You know, just 30 minute intros.

You know, that's 30 minutes that could have gone toward the stream.

That's fine.

We're fine. You know, this's 30 minutes that could have gone toward the stream. That's fine. We're fine.

You know, this is supply and demand. People prefer the longer intros and the longer intros they will have.

You know, it's out of my hands.

Anyway, guys, streaming twice in a row for the first time in a few months, actually. That's quite a feat. That's quite a new thing, right? I don't get too used to it, though, because 95% of my brain power goes to that thing i used to do before i started streaming nowadays which is actually thinking isn't that crazy no No, for real.

As soon as I started streaming in 2021, what I really was doing for about one or two years, probably one or two years, yeah, was just sharing with you guys what the infrared collective discovered over the course of about five years.

But the process of novel theoretical discovery and synthesis and concept building, I guessLuze calls it that

that was totally suspended

until recently when I was when I'm writing this book

Amilo! What's going on! What a great way to start it. What a great way to kick

it off! You know what i should do i should

demand tribute in the form of all the missing likes translate into subs so you literally have to pay

if you didn't boost the tweet oh wow that talk about incentive

that's true incentives truly building incentives there you You actually have to pay

out of pocket if you don't

like the tweet.

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Sciop Shorty. Oh my God.

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Say off Shorty, thank you for the sub, but you just revealed that you did not actually you know what this is sciop shorty

thank you for the sub but you just revealed

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All right?

Anyway, guys, on a more serious note,

on a serious note,

I actually have some things I'd like to talk about today.

And since it's a sio wallow

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I hope it's great. Guys. Wow, there's actually a lot to talk about today. I don't even know where to start. How about Haas was right?

Do I need a gloat?

Is that what I'm going to become?

No.

No.

I'd rather just be like a

sagacious

monk

at the top of a temple

and I've just been meditating this whole

time telling you exactly how things

would unravel and develop

and so they have red saffron

what's going on?

For example,

Biden just signed

another $1 billion of aid

to Israel. So much

for Biden, the pressure on

Biden. Nonsense. It's breaking news. Didn't I say this yesterday,

that it was just for show. The Biden administration has initiated a process to approve

one billion arms deal for Israel, tank ammunition tactical vehicles, and mortar rounds.

Amid escalating tensions in Rafa and criticism from political and media figures.

So they're just giving them the shipments and weapons

that's it

so so that wasn't much of a

of a tension or a struggle or a conflict

I was right

you know something else I was right about

the longevity of the campus protest?

Because I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure they're over now. Correct me if I'm wrong. Aren't they just over now?

Isn't the Columbia thing over now? It's over. So don't treat me like the bad guy for saying that it's not

going to last long in the current form that it's in. Because that's actually what I said. And I was

actually very generous and I gave it six months. And it seems like they're just over now.

It's not even a thing anymore.

You know, the far right called me stupid because I pointed out the obvious.

And I was actually proven right.

Sorry.

White, Like Roger Rabbit

It was actually proven right

No matter

of weeks

That's just how it goes around here

Around these parts

And actually I gave an analysis That's just how it goes around here, around these parts.

And actually, I gave an analysis, and you know, you have to understand Haas is a wise man.

You know, I'm only 27 going on 28.

But you should actually think of me like I'm 280 years old. I have a lot of wisdom. I have a lot of far-sighted thinking, a lot of wisdom, okay? I'm like an old man, basically. And if I'm sharing a criticism or an analysis, is because I have a very mature perspective on world events, no emotion, none of this kind of, none of this kind of sentimental bias or anything like that.

And when I say, when I give this specific type of analysis, it's not because I have an agenda, it's because I at least believe that I'm telling the truth.

And I turned out to be correct in my analysis.

I was open and happy to being disproven, but I wasn't.

So that's that.

That's that that now and my what was my analysis my analysis is that college campuses are not enough to exert political pressure they are nowhere near close enough to sufficiently mount any kind of rebellion against the hegemony.

And that maybe it's a good start that's debatable, but if it's going to be a good start, you have to actually initiate a dialogue that goes outside the college campus bubble so that it can replicate among the masses.

Just initiate a dialogue that makes sense to people.

That means going out of your bubble and, yeah, talking to people that work for a living.

I don't know why that was so controversial, but here we are.

I'm not here to just gloat about being right, by the way.

I actually have things to talk about.

But Biden moves forward with $1 billion in new arms for Israel.

So there you go.

America is an occupied country.

I just talked about this yesterday, and here we are.

Ha's being proved correct.

Once again.

Once again.

Now, I would like everyone to also be on the lookout for an article that's about to drop about Jackson and I.

That's going to be fun.

Looking forward to what's in there.

Got my lawyer on speed dial.

Now, there's other things I cannot talk about but I can talk about them indirectly

and I wanted to talk about the relationship

between Genghis Khan and the Communist Party.

And I won't mention the Communist Party. I'm just going to mention the Mongols and Genghis Khan for now.

How and why could this ever be relevant well one of the themes one of the topics that feature

very prominently in my upcoming book is the topic of the nomadic sedentary dialectic the historical dual duality of nomadic um armies nomadic

revolutions which basically conquer sedentary societies you have this very strange phenomena from the perspective of western preconceptions where barbarians come to be the ruling aristocracy of a new expanded empire who came just uncivilized barbarians come and they rule over these advanced sedentary societies, which seems paradoxical for obvious reasons.

Sedentary societies have accumulated more knowledge, more wealth, more developed productive forces.

Did I mention better technologies and so on and so forth?

Nomads are very simple people. They don't have a lot of wealth. They're not very advanced

technologically or in terms of the productive forces. So why is it that nomads constantly conquer

sedentary societies? What is the essence of that dynamic, that dialectic, between the

settled and the nomadic? And the most prominent example of this is religious. It's in the Bible and it's in the

Holy Quran. It's the real events surrounding the rise of the prophet of Islam. Barbarians, nomads in Arabia, came to overpower and conquer,

huge swaths of the Eastern Roman Empire, Iberia, North Africa, and the Sassanid Empire as a whole.

And that is something very remarkable.

That's one of the core elements of the story of Islam that I think people find so compelling and so persuasive. It's a miracle that these nomads were able to do this. But Islam was really just the epitome of the, and in many ways, the religious form that gave a conclusion or tried to predict the conclusion of the nomadic sedentary dialectic, which concludes in the end of history as we know it, and what Kojev calls the universal empire, or sorry, the universal state. That's kind of a Freudian slip.

The universal state.

What is the universal state?

And what is the real universal state?

Because Koujav was wrong, I think.

I don't think the universal state is the UN and the

European Union and American

Unipolarity. I think the

universal state is a lost

state, a state that has to be

remembered, a state that is

lost to time, but still

exerts an influence determining the course of the development of states

today they rise and fall on the basis of this such universal state within history and of course

I'm talking about the world empire of the

Mongols why does this dynamic happen, though?

Now, bear with me.

This is not something I do typically in my streams.

It's kind of like a magician is never supposed to reveal their tricks.

And in my case, my trick has always been lacan it's just always underlied the logic of everything I've ever said really a lot of it why I say the

things I do why I pursue the optics I do and so it's very much informed by a

Lacanian perspective.

But for purposes of this stream, I will incorporate themes from psychoanalysis

because I actually think that for the first time they could actually simplify things rather than overcomplicate them, which is what they usually do.

Now, what is the business with nomads?

Well, I'll tell a story, basically, and we can talk about Genghis Khan.

I think it's in the secret history of the Mongols itself.

It's in the Holy Quran.

It's in the Bible.

It's in the story of Mosesoses and there is a nomadic

peoples now first of all let's just start from there what does it take for a people to become

nomadic because david Graber, he has a

problematic and voluntaristic

concept of

schizomogenesis, if I'm

pronouncing it correctly, probably not.

According to which different societies and different civilizations pursue the character and the norms and the way of life that they do, not because they were predetermined by some other factors, some objective factors, but because in large part they choose to.

Now, if we remove the element of choice and replace choice with give expression to an indeterminacy,

kind of a quantum logic, if you will, I think there's actually a lot of conceptual value in Graber's schizomogenesis. There are different possibilities for a given society, for a given civilization, and these possibilities actualize themselves in different forms, and none is necessarily more true than the other.

They're just different forms of the same range of

possibilities so the same determination has multiple different forms manifestations in other words

and it's not because of choice it's because it's the same different forms, manifestations, in other words.

And it's not because of choice, it's because it's the same objective determination,

which itself is,

if you want to think of this at the level

of modern physics or quantum

logic, it's kind of just

itself split and indeterminate and not necessarily

only one thing. It's very dialectical actually when you think about it. But in any case,

sedentary societies differ from no, sorry, nomadic societies differ from sedentary societies because of a fundamental schizmogenesis. Sedentary societies settle and incorporate the vast immediate kinship relationships

into an super individual, societal, and ultimately social organicism, if you will, where societies take the form of living things in a way.

Labor is coordinated at a collective level, farm labor. Everything

becomes incorporated into one living whole. This is sedentary societies. There's a pattern and rhythm to one

unifying way of life. And this is what most people mean by civilization, sedentary societies. Sedentary societies typically are governed by one authority, one central state. It's one civilization. Sure, there's trade relationships and there's

things that divide people, but ultimately you're talking about a single holistic social metabolism,

reproducing itself across a network of familial and kinship relationships,

and a single determinant pattern of existence, right, a mode of production, if you will. This is a Marxist mode of production. Actually, this was the extent to which Soviet theorists were able to regard what modes of productions were. For Soviet theorists, a mode of production is just a sedentary society and nothing else.

Soviet historical materialists actually regarded nomadic societies as inherently socially parasitic. Why? Because nomads did not produce anything, according to that. Nomads, more or less, had to be fed by sedentary societies, so they had to resort to banditry, plundering, and looting as their form of subsistence or a trade or something else but they ultimately regarded as parasitic now i think obviously that's wrong. The Chinese also seemed to have taken issue with that. There was a kind of spat between different historians, between Russian and Chinese historians and the, I think it was the late 1930s. I could be wrong. I'm pretty sure. Over the status of Genghis Khan, over the status of the Mongols. The Soviets said the Mongols were a purely destructive and parasitic force whereas mao and the

communist party in china held celebrations commemorating gangis khan revering him as a historically

progressive figure and i of course side with the Chinese in this dispute.

Now what's different about nomadic societies is that, of course, all of this is explained better in writing in my actual book, but to put it into words that I think you would probably be able to understand, the first hunter-gatherer societies, whether they exist or not doesn't matter it's a it's a useful

construct uh just think of the blue people from avatar this is just the immediacy the pure immediacy

of kinship relationships your tribe is your your family. It's all one big circle. It's just everyone

knowing their place, living in harmony with nature. Everyone's taking care of each other

directly. And there's no distinction between the social and the individual because everyone is already part of one extended family in a way.

So, so, you know, there's no laws. no laws there's no externality of the social form it's just

all very immediate and bounded up in kinship relationships um sedentary societies are different because even though it's ultimately one social metabolism,

there still is an element of alienation or alienation, I should put in quotations,

just in the sense of there's a rupture from that immediacy.

There's a unity of state, right?

There's a unity of society, which is irreducible to the immediacy of your individual relationships or your specific family.

There are different families.

The extent to which there is a kind of single social metabolism is the product of an inadvertent mode of production. Whereas the Blue People societies, that's an immediate mode of production.

It's a motive production founded upon the immediacy of relationships. In sedentary societies,

the mode of production is founded upon an indirectness of social relationships, meaning there's a singular outcome that's produced also and which is also given recognition, which is the aggregate and the culmination of different individual and family relationships and relationships between families and relationships between tribes that ultimately produces a single social outcome indirectly, keyword indirectly, right?

So both sedentary societies and nomadic societies are just different ways of responding to this rupture that's within the immediacy of kinship relationships, defining the primitive communist societies, as Marx and Engels describe them.

Anyway, let me continue.

Sedentary societies respond to this rupture by domesticating it, by incorporating it within a higher form of the social metabolism.

In the hunter-gatherer primitive communist societies, there is an organic social metabolism, which is immediate, which is directly evident to everyone, and which is seamlessly continuous with experience. But there's a rupture that occurs, that upsets that balance, that upsets that harmony, that upsets the immediacy of these relationships, which has to be responded to in some kind of way.

You know what that rupture is called in the origin of the family and the German ideology and private

property and communism and other such texts by Marx and Engels.

It's called the Division of Labor.

The Division of Labor.

That's what it's called.

The Division of Labor, when they say the division of labor, they're not

necessarily talking about people doing

different things. That was also in primitive

communist society. Men were hunting,

women were gathering, whatever.

People have these different roles.

But the division of labor

proper is a rupture within the immediacy of kinship

relationships of production and distribution, meaning production is no longer seamlessly

continuous with kinship within the immediacy of experience and kinship relationships.

And what I mean by that is that, you know, the mode of production is no longer based on something that's just directly natural or organic in the sense of like seamless with the logic of your family relationships or your tribal relationships.

There's also an element of the need to recognize an element which is a

which is

discontinuous with all of that

such as, for example,

a new form of labor,

which doesn't fit within the prior logic of social relationships or production or kinship

relationships. There has to be a way to make that harmonious with the social whole, while also

acknowledging that there was a rupture with the social hole in the

first place and the way that rupture is recognized given recognition and acknowledged as something

that has an ontological status if you, is the beginning of the division of labor.

When that rupture begins to be recognized, history itself begins in the first place, because what is history, if not, the recollection, the remembrance, the recognition of discontinuities in the seamless circle and cycle of life and a human experience. We only have history because things happen

which were not previously anticipated or coexistent with what we're familiar with here and now right no it's not becoming conscious of

production don't don't rush to conclusions. I choose my words very carefully, and if I'm not saying conscious, there's a reason for that. It's not becoming conscious of production. Recognition has very little to do with consciousness. You can recognize something without

being conscious of it. For example, you can recognize traumas without being conscious of the specificity of that trauma.

But the recognition can still manifest itself.

Re-cognition, break it down etymologically,

recognition implies a discontinuity in the stream of cognition itself.

Okay?

You have to recognize something because just like some of you in the chat,

you're just running around and you're jumping to conclusions,

but then you hit your head on the wall of Haas telling you you're wrong, for example. That's recognition. That makes you recognize something, right? Um, so this is what recognition is. It's not necessarily consciousness.

That's a much more problematic notion and topic.

Anyway, to continue

in the sedentary

form of society and we're talking

about agriculture here guys and the rise

in advent of agriculture just keep that

in mind.

Because this is the first form of a sedentary social existence.

Why it is that

agriculture cannot be in court...

Why can't hunter-gatherer societies

be agricultural?

Like, why can't they just incorporate...

Why is agriculture cause these problems?

The Neolithic Revolution and so on.

Well, it's very simple.

Because in these Blue People Avatar societies, I'm not calling them that to be racist.

I'm just calling them that because it's primitive communism is a reductionist notion. It's not really applicable to the societies it was intended to speak about, like the Native Americans or whatever.

So I'm just using it as a mythological point of reference. It never actually existed, though, I don't think.

But let's just pretend they did for the purposes of though, I don't think.

But let's just pretend they did for the purposes of setting this up as a useful abstraction.

Now, to continue, you have basically a Blue people avatar society where everything is totally harmonious, everything is totally familiar. It's the circle of life. Everything is in its proper place. Everyone is in their proper place. Its life is one big circle. Your relationship toward other people. The relations of production are just immediately continuous with your

experience and with how you experience

the logic

the pattern of social

reproduction is

coexistent with social reproduction

itself so there's no alienation because it's an immediacy right and um

everything is the way it is because it's kind of um fully and immediately continuous with the whole of reality itself right so this is the whole this is a holism it's a holistic existence the whole of being the whole of cosmos um is immediately confirmed

in the immediacy of experience.

In other words, the ontological

how would I call it?

The ontological outlook, if you will,

it's kind of an adequate word.

The ontological outlook is immediately confirmed in individual experience, right? The whole of being is confirmed and immediately makes sense in the way in which one dwells within being. So this is the harmony with nature and yada, yada, yada, whatever. Now, why agriculture disturbs that is because the discovery of a new relationship toward nature, whether it's

individual or it doesn't matter, just the discovery of a new possibility of relating to the natural world in defiance of preconceived wisdoms, pre-conceived assumptions and a preconceived sense of familiarity, that itself, regardless of the, it doesn't matter if it's accurate, just regardless of the content, that itself, a new way to subsist and live that previously could not have been accounted for by the social metabolism and the logic of the social whole that itself radically disturbs things as far as ontology is concerned if you will as far as ontology is concerned, if you will.

As far as people's sense of the relationship to the cosmic hole itself,

there's now a rupture here that has to be made sense of.

Now, of course you can incorporate agriculture somehow and have a new kind of social metabolism, a new whole...

But you do have to remember the fact that there was a rupture.

Something happened which you couldn't have accounted for and that happened.

That also probably will so a worm of doubt as far as, okay, what goes in the future, right?

Your sense of certainty in the future, your? Your sense of certainty in the future,

your sense of certainty and confidence

in your social existence is somehow now shattered.

So, sedentary and nomadic patterns of social existence, if you will, or ways of life, those are different responses to that

division of labor, to that rupture. And it's clear what the sedentary form is. The sedentary form tries to reincorporate that rupture into a new and greater logic of the social whole and a mode of production.

So it's the incorporation of new techniques of production. So it's the incorporation of new techniques of

production. Of course,

with this comes hierarchies and all

whatever, but

if you get what I'm trying to

get at here,

sedentary societies are trying to respond to a trauma, a social trauma, and the social trauma is a discontinuity within the logic of the social whole, which they're trying to reincorporate.

But what is, what are nomadic societies then?

Well, this is the difference.adic societies rather than try to heal the wound insist upon the wound they insist upon the trauma they insist upon the cut and the rupture. For nomadic societies, sedentary societies are fakes and phonies in a way, if you think about it.

Like, they are coping.

They are trying to avoid a painful truth.

Nomadic societies insist upon that.

They insist, and for them it's a matter of honor to recognize that.

To recognize that there is this rupture, there is this radical discontinuity in any familiar and comfortable logic of the social hole, which makes it impossible to have a permanent home, which makes it impossible to have a permanent and stable

form of subsistence. And nomadicism is pastoralism, right? It's a kind of, um, it's nomadic because you're taking animals uh and you're

traveling long long distance sometimes cyclical but sometimes not because grazing uh grounds become exhausted eventually and this is a dynamic.

It's part of the dynamic.

But you're traveling these long distances because of the need to graze the animals,

your horses, you know, sheep, whatever.

And this kind of opens up the horizon of an openness of what the logic of the social whole actually is and this is where uh the kind of

first form of a sense of universalism i think comes from in a way but not universalism in the sense of universal human rights, but the notion of a kind of

abstract universal, a notion of a kind of infinity, right, a boundlessness of space.

And this, of course, has always manifested itself in sky cults, right?

It's the sky god Anu, in the case of Mesopotamian nomads.

It's Tengri, in the case of Turco-Mongol nomads, and so on and so forth. But why it's a sky god usually is because the vastness, the infinity, infinity and most importantly the kind of smooth nature of the sky there's nothing in there really except clouds kind of reflects and deluz talks about this bullshit anyway, smooth

space, whatever, smooth

versus stratified space, but

the sky

has this

the ontological significance

for nomads because it represents the kind of full indeterminacy of social form

the boundless indeterminacy the suspended permanent indeterminacy, the suspended,

permanent indeterminacy

of the social form.

It stretches

literally across

the infinite horizon.

It's just

so on

and so on.

But, yeah, this is just, I'm not talking about actual history.

This is just a kind of simplification, conceptually speaking.

Anyway, nomads develop a strict kind of code of honor that is based on the recognition and the acknowledgement of ruptures and discontinuities within the social form, within the immediacy of a given social whole.

Of course, translated in psychoanalytic terms, nomads lean heavy on the symbolic order on the order of law um and the symbolic is a rupture within the

order of the imaginary the social hole in question here is another word for the imaginary other with a capital O, right?

The big other of the imaginary.

So this is actually what we're talking about here.

This is actually what we're talking about here.

And sedentary societies do, of course, well, not in the beginning, they don't actually,

but eventually, of course, they come to have a sense of law, right? A sense of prohibition. See, this is what we're talking about, too, a rupture in the immediacy of kinship relationships. Think about it. What is that? It's a prohibition of incest. Right? That's exactly what it is're if your kinship relations are a little too

immediate you know the families are getting a little too close you what i'm saying this is the

Freudian prohibition of incest so uh that is the foundation of law, though, right? The symbolic order. This is basic

Lacan interpretation of Freud. Symbolic order is founded upon the prohibition of incest.

Yeah, prohibition of open relationship. sure sure whatever so uh to continue um

there is a difference though for sedentary societies the order of the symbolic the symbolic law gets reincorporated into some kind of familiar imaginary other other right this is a kind of familiar

of familiar phenomenal pattern of social existence and the psychoanalytic

analogy application of psychoanalytic application of

psychoanalytic concepts

is a little too direct here

and I want to avoid that.

But the logic is the same. That's all you need to know.

But the sedentary society, not necessarily

bad, but it has a corrupting effect on the order of law.

That's what's important.

Sedentary societies tend to forget the difference upon which they were founded, the prohibition, the discontinuity, the rupture upon which they were founded,

because sedentary societies eventually become comfortable, quite literally, in a new mode of production in which there is, to an extent,

a degree of predictability, of crop yields, and subsistence is more guaranteed.

There's more of a certainty of the future and of subsistence and so on and so on.

So this has a corrupting effect, obviously, right?

Because you forget your humble origins.

You forget how you literally erect an idol and worship the idol

but what you're forgetting is that your entire history was founded upon the inadequacy and the

shattering of an idol. But you built a new one because you forgot about that because you became content with a new pattern

of social existence which you reify into the status of the eternal just because um just because, um, just because, uh, of the consistency of, uh, the, uh, the

production and the reliability of the form of subsistence you've adopted.

So this produces a corrupting effect on the order of the law,

on the order of codes of honor.

This is why settled societies eventually descend into corruption.

So why is it that nomadic societies are always the ones that remind them of that? Yeah, they forget the content of God's word.

They just kind of become contended with the form.

This is idolatry, right?

Yeah. contended with the form. This is idolatry, right? Now, stay with me. Stay with me, like they say on TikTok. Stay with me.

Domatic societies... Nomadic societies are not impervious to corruption either.

Keep that in mind.

Nomadic societies also corrupt.

In fact, that corruption is the very context of the holy books, the Bible, the Quran, you name it, and world history itself. But the nature of the corruption and the corresponding response to it is a little bit different.

Because sedentary societies have the benefit of the comfort of an enclosed social whole,

the corruption does not bear upon its dwellers as an immediate problem, as an immediate injustice, as an immediate issue.

Because they can just continue, just think of Nietzsche's last man. Okay, you have hamburgers and pornography and drugs. So you can just, you know, you can ignore whatever injustice or

violation of honor or immorality because you basically can just keep going and

rely that your welfare check is going to come every month. Whatever, right? Think of the kind of basic right-wing Nietzschean nonsense. And it kind of does

apply to

the corrupting

nature of sedentary

societies and how that corruption

is able to persist

and why it always takes an outside

influence to restore law and honor. Because in nomadic societies, it's a little bit different you see nomadic societies are not necessarily law they're they're far from lawless although nomads are called barbarians the reason there is so much interfighting and conflict between nomads is because the whole of their

existence is based upon a strict, very strict code of honor. So because their codes of honor are so strict, founded purely upon the recognition of the

incommensurability of kinship relationships and the discontinuity and rupture within them,

the tendency towards that, it's very easy for brothers to start fighting

each other over inheritance or, you know, cousins to fight each other, or different tribes to

fight each other, because disputes over the code of honor become very easy

when it's so strict

and it's so

and there's so much

pressure being exerted

by it upon

nomads, right?

So nomads

are always dwelling

within this wild

lawless wild west not because there is no law but on the

contrary because the law is so heavy and so strict it makes it very easy for there to be disputes over it

right um and why is the law so integral and so fundamental to nomadic societies

because when you don't have certainty in the form of the regularity of form different kind of outputs of production and forms of subsistence.

The only thing at the end of the day you can really count on, like the only thing you have to count on, right, is that basically

your boundaries will be respected.

All you have is your own dignity and nothing else.

It's like what Bedou says.

When someone has nothing, nothing at all,

all they have is their dignity and nothing else.

All you have is the business you stand on.

I stand on this business. I'm a guy, you know,

running around, riding on a horse. I have no certainty about what tomorrow will bring. I have no regularity. I can take no comfort in what the future will bring me but i insist upon not being domesticated by

this sedentary society because i have obligations to my tribe to my, to my forefathers.

I have these obligations

to recognize and

remember my humble origins

and to stay true

to them and to never forget them.

Never forget the thing

that makes me what I am.

I could talk about honor more because I'm being very vague and ambiguous, and it's not necessarily a proper materialist explanation.

But I will shelve that for now because I don't want to get into all this psychoanalytic stuff.

But to simplify, nomadic societies take as their foundation a very strict notion of honor.

And all honor is is an acknowledgement and a recognition of the discontinuity of social

relationships within this context at least um for example when in traditional islam societies, some of them, let's say middle, because this comes from Roman and Sassanid practices, but the veil, why is the veil considered a way of defending your wife's honor or so woman's honor because it's literally a discontinuity

in the immediacy of a social relationship right uh in in this case vision somebody does not have

access to uh her body to look at what she looks like right there's a there's a kind of um

there's a rupture in that immediacy because it's a reflection of the kind of acknowledgement and recognition of the privacy and interiority, the sacredness of the sexuality.

For example, female sexuality.

Not everyone can have access you see so that's honor honor is that you know it's the same thing

when it comes to trade honor is you not stealing for me at gunpoint outright.

Honor is when, um, when, you know, I promise I'm going to give you, I don't know, like a sack of potatoes.

And in return, you're going to give me like a new fucking bow and arrow or some shit, right?

That's honor, but

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

there's no honor when it's, see,

it's not honor when it's just

an immediate kinship

relationship.

Like, for example, if you're born,

you're raised in a household,

and like your older brother gives you McDonald's, that's not honor.

Your brother is not defending the honor

of the family by giving you

McDonald's. That's expected of him. You have to by giving you McDonald's.

That's expected of him.

You have to give me

fucking McDonald's, motherfucker.

Like, what do you think this is?

Right?

When you're doing chores around the house,

that's kind of debatable,

but when you're a kid,

at least,

when you're a kid,

when you're like 10 years old

doing chores around the house,

you're not honoring the family,

you're doing what you're fucking supposed to

or else you're going to get beaten

with a shoe, right?

Because it's expected of you.

Honor only inserts itself as a factor when there's a discontinuity of social relationships,

when there isn't an immediacy of access.

There isn't an immediacy of what you can demand of the other person.

There's a discontinuity at that level,

and mutual recognition, which implies a distance between the two is necessary, right?

So keep that in mind that's very important and nomadic societies are literally founded upon being cut off from holistic social

metabolisms they are cut off from holistic social metabolisms. They are cut off from, when you're cut off from the immediacy of kinship relationships, you're banished and expelled from the village. You know, all you have to rely on really is the cut itself. That is the foundation of your

existence. And how you enter into relationships with other nomadic tribes and other peoples is based on a mutual recognition

of that cut.

It's almost like in SpongeBob when they go to the Salties platoon.

How tough are you?

And it's like everyone at the Salties Platoon in SpongeBob is just they're all

sitting at the bar.

Yo, Emilo, what's up?

They're all

sitting at the bar.

Locals, don't fucking talk

about the Middle Ages. I'm talking about

like fucking 10,000 BC right now. Like,

holy shit. Can you like chill? The fuck, dude. You may as well, like, why do you want to get so

ahead of yourself? The middle ages? Like, what? Like, what? 15,000 years later past what I'm talking about holy shit yeah let me

just go through all world history to explain it anyway um the salties platoon let's return back to that, all right?

Saltees platoon.

Amila.

I don't know if I thank you.

Everyone's at the Salties Platoon.

And why, what minimal form of solidarity do you think people at the Salt East

Platoon have? The minimal form of solidarity is like, look at this scar I got. Look at this

fucking bullet hole. Yeah, you got a bullet hole. Me too. Yeah. We're standing on

business out here. It's not necessarily like a like an immediacy of

like oh we all love each other and it's so warm it's more like i've been through some shit you've

been through some shit and we don't trust nobody out here but we all right we're all in agreement and we have this kind of

recognition of of of of this unifying like cut this unifying impossibility of social relationships,

right?

If that makes sense.

Like, it's not that people have each other's back.

It's just there's a recognition there.

There is a code of honor and a form of respect at the salties

platoon and sponge bob right so it's the same with nomads in the mongles before gangis con and

afterwards for that matter.

Now that's not to say nomads don't have familial relationships. It's the opposite.

They have it called Asabiyah,

which is what Ibn Khaldun described it as.

The tribal, but the tribal solidarity that nomads have is not based on the

warmth of kinship relationships it's based on a sense of cohesion group cohesion that it follows the

patriarchical logic of honor you will fight alongside your father your brother

and your cousins because you have an it's your honor to do so it's based on honor? It's not based on warmth. It's not based on, you know,

I'm doing this because they pay for every, no, you're doing it because you have to stand on business in that way.

But that lack of warmth also means you can fight your father and your brothers and your cousins, and you can literally kill them when there's disputations as far as the shared code of honor is concerned right now how

does this reflect itself in the form of a mode of production if you can even call

it that because we let's anchor this a little bit in the materialist terms.

Let's not get too carried away.

Because when we're talking about nomadic societies, we're talking about a way of life.

And while it's more unpredictable than sedentary societies, arguably, I mean, I know that's contested. But generally speaking, it's still

predictable enough to constitute a way of life that survives across generations, right? So

basically how nomadic societies work is that there's two forms of subsistence, let's call it,

right?

There's a form of subsistence of what you earn, I guess, at the expense of any kind of social logic.

But then more fundamentally, there is a kind of there is a law

that and it's based in law

that's so important it's based in law

that defines

how

wealth is

distributed among the tribe.

How can it be justly distributed?

What obligations are there to take care of others and so on and so on?

But these are not based in a kind of immediacy of familial kinship relations they're based on the

indirectly mediated form of social honor so you have an obligation.

Put it this way. A father, a nomadic father, has an obligation to divide his spoils and divide his wealth among his children and among his family.

Not because it's all warm and everyone loves each other but because to not do so would would be a violation would be a um would be a defacement and would be a kind of an affront to what his ancestors lived and died for themselves he has to divide his wealth among his family because otherwise he would not be a man for example because otherwise the founding exile or the founding

discontinuity that founds the nomadic way of life why it is that we had to go out into the

desert or into the steps or something instead of being in a cozy

comfortable little village is because we've insisted upon the recognition the remembrance

of this cut within the social hole and it's reproducing that recognition and and carrying it

further into the future into new generations that is the that is the purpose and the aim of

life itself.

Life exists to reproduce the recognition of that founding cut, if you will, the signifier.

So notice it's very different, okay?

It's very different.

It's very cold.

It's not very warm.

All relationships of production are founded upon the law, the signifier.

They are not founded upon the comfortability or the familiarity of an imaginary other, an imaginary form, a phenomenal form that just makes sense to you immediately.

It's not because of feelings or the, I mean, that's a muddied word.

It's not because of like, it's not because of anything given.

That's the word I'm looking for. It's not given. Like Wilford-Cellar's notion of the myth of the given. It's not given, right? It's not a given. It's something that has to constantly be reasserted and be relitigated brothers are constantly having to fight over the inheritance they're constantly having to be disputes over oh no she was betrothed to me not to you whatever there constantly has to be some kind of

conflict over the code of honor over the law because it's not given in production itself

that's what i mean to say it's not given it's not it's not the presumption of production it is

the con it is what is fundamental to life itself so the law is always in dispute whereas in sedentary societies the opposite is true the law is not always in dispute um on the contrary people would people much prefer and there's a tendency for the law to kind of occlude into the background and descend in this kind of corruption, basically turning a blind eye and ignoring it and so on and so on, because the immediacy of kinship relations and village relations and family relations

kind of makes up, it doesn't need to be there. We can kind of sort things out amongst ourselves

to kind of like in a good libertarian way. See, nomads are inherently

authoritarians and sedentary societies

are libertarian. Why don't we put it in

these terms?

Sedentary societies want to be libertarian.

Nomadic societies are

everyone is basically

Stalin, you know anyway um more true than you would think actually. But in any case, let me continue.

How is it that nomadic societies corrupt?

How is it that they descend into corruption? Of course, it's because they're tempted. They're tempted by a woman. These patriarchal societies are seduced by a woman, but not any one woman in particular, rather the idol of, usually it's a fertility goddess, of the sedentary societies itself. Because sedentary societies are able to accumulate more wealth, more spare wealth, more surplus wealth. They have

ways of tempting and circumventing the codes of honor within nomadic societies such that corrupt sedentary societies also corrupt nomadic chiefs they corrupt nomadic

figures of authority who themselves become kind of seduced by this newfound wealth and even power. That's most important as well, power. Because sedentary societies also find ways of appointing nomadic authorities to the status of authority and power, basically giving them a monopoly, right, because of this corrupt relationship of we are receiving wealth from you you're bribing us basically

and we're going to do your bidding

and gain your favor

and then there's

and then every nomadic hero

always comes to the fore

usually an orphan

like the prophet of Islam, but not always. But every nomad always enters the scene, every nomadic hero. And what does he do? He looks around his tribe, his society, his nomadic society. And he says, have you forgotten the name of your forefathers? Have you forgotten your God? Have you forgotten the code of honor which premises our very existence, which gives us life upon which our life and our way of life is founded? Have you forgotten our ways and our code? Have you forgotten what it is that makes us what we are? This wealth has made you forget that. This comfortable position you've been given by these bastards in the city has made you forget that.

This is all it takes a nomadic hero.

This is all that it takes for a nomadic hero to be born.

A nomadic hero rises in the midst of a decaying and corrupting society, and reasserts the name of the father, reasserts the signifier, reinserts the integrity of the symbolic order.

And then there's always an internal conflict.

Why are nomads put into conflict with sedentary societies?

It's not because all the nomads unite and destroy the sedentary societies because they're jealous of them

no it's not it's because sedentary societies often get caught in the cross

fire

in the disputes

between nomads

when a nomadic hero rises, unifies his people, his tribe, he comes up, this is literally in the Quran, by the way, he literally comes up against corrupt nomadic chiefs and corrupt nomadic figures who are being aided and and and uh given their orders by these sedentary societies and so on um and once those guys are dealt with

like the blue sky

the the the seamlessly

the infinity of the blue sky above

the city becomes smoothed over

in other words once the nomads sort their business out the city becomes smoothed over.

In other words, once the nomads sort their business out and reassert the integrity of the law,

nothing is stopping that from being applied to sedentary societies themselves. But you need to understand this kind of

beautiful Hegelian logic at play here. Right? It's not that... It's not that uh um it's not that moses comes and decides he wants to have a revolution against the whole world it's something that goes on privately.

It's a private problem within a specific tribe, a specific society, a specific nomadic group, right?

And they're so minuscule and irrelevant.

They're like the Persians in the

Medean Empire

before the rise of Cyrus the Great.

They're just this marginal group,

but somebody

rises up and has

some business to stand on and

says, why have we forgotten who we are? Why have we forgotten the law?

And once they find a way to remember the law, they become invincible. They become an invincible force that conquers and triumphs over all of these different corrupt societies by reminding them of the law that they forgot to. But it's an indirect process. They didn't, Cyrus the Great didn't mean to conquer the whole fucking world. He just had some business within his own community

that he wanted to settle. And once he did that, it followed naturally that he conquered the

world because the logic was able to reproduce and replicate itself beyond there. Why not? Why stop here? Why not go to the fucking end? Right? Same thing with the Arabian desert nomads. I don't think it was the intention of the prophet to conquer all of North Africa all the way to India.

I don't think that was the intention in the beginning.

He had a problem with the Mechon authorities, a small, marginal, meaningless part of the world.

But once that business was settled, they were unleashed upon the entire world.

Nothing could stop them.

Because it was a microcosm of world history itself. The end, see, the two

dimensions, the two layers, the private context of this symbolic law, right, the private context of some kind of communal dispute regarding the symbolic law, and then the wider reality of universal world history.

The two coming and engaging in a form of mutual recognition, that's exactly what Kojev describes as the meeting of the philosopher with the tyrant the

tyrant and the philosopher right that's the same hegelian logic one finds confirmation

and the other

unbeknownst

to both parties, but it's almost

like a love story, right?

It's almost like a love story. Like

the love story of Cyrus the Great

is what? He was really

just trying to restore

justice to his Persians

marginal irrelevant

group at the rim of the Medean Empire

but eventually

he through that

through that kind you know how a love

a love story in a movie is like

this guy is going to get a job.

He does not really thinking about getting a woman, but he's just like, you know, going to, I don't know.

I haven't watched these movies, but he's going, I don't know, to go, uh, move to a new town because his his uh company ordered him to and he's so

stressful because he's got all these meetings or whatever but then you know in that unbeknownst

to him in the midst of all of that, somehow

his path crosses with some woman who's also

dealing with her own private

private problem or

private story. And then the two

somehow interests, somehow

both of their private stories, both of their private stories both of their like the woman is like uh i

don't know she's like a local um charity worker who works at a soup kitchen and she's trying to raise funds

somehow both both everything aligns perfectly right but? But it's not direct. It's not like both

we're like going on Tinder looking for a match. That's not a love story. That wouldn't be a good

love story at all. Right? Biches would not watch that in the movies. Like imagine a guy, imagine if they made the notebook, and it's just like some guy who goes

to some town, goes on Tinder, find some bitch, and then they get married, and that's it.

That would not make, nobody would, you know, who would like that?

No one, right?

There always has to be this element of the indirectness of the intention there always has to be an element of like this was not willed by us

directly but through the pursuit of our through our through the um choices that we're making within some

private context dealing with some other business we came to recognize each other somehow

as meant for each other somehow as meant for each other as the same like i see your soul in you and you see it in me

for reasons unbeknownst to either of our intentions, right?

That's a real love story, right?

But I'm telling you, this is also the Hegelian logic of world history, too.

If you think about it, Mongols didn't know about

calisthenics or ray pizza

we never even saw them

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But anyway, but anyway the deeper

the deeper calling of world history

you know

um um you know um the two different levels right one level is some private context of a nomadic society

and then that ends up being the microcosm of some greater logic of greater historical rationality

right that's kind of the hegelian cunning of history when you think about it

it it's also the this the underlying theme i think i've talked about this before of the movie in the joker

same thing in the joker uh i don't want you to take inspiration from the Joker because he's such a kind of, uh, he's just such a

creepy, like, I don't know, not, not, I don't want anyone to like, him like as a cool guy like Genghis Khan.

But anyway, it's the same thing.

The Joker has this private problem.

And he is like a crazy guy who, has this private problem and he

is like a crazy guy

who has this

existential turmoil he's dealing with

but inadvertently

his actions

have these political ramifications have these political ramifications, have these societal ramifications.

So there's a microcosm of like the Joker dealing with this existential stuff about his identity and his self-worth and his struggle to kind of be what he wants to be and and make sense of his life.

But then at the level of society, society is answering him in its own way, responding to him.

And it's almost like he is this kind of hysteric, in its own way, responding to him.

And it's almost like he is this kind of hysteric who's constantly like ignore, he's just constantly ignoring society the whole time.

Like he shoots those guys on the train because he didn't like them.

And then like there's all these protests.

Like, yeah, whoever did that is such a great guy.

And he's just walking along.

I'm like, I don't really care.

Like, he's searching for love.

The woman is right in front of him, in front of him.

But he's like, no, no, no. I'm still, I don't recognize you

as the confirmation of the recognition of me. I don't find confirmation in you, right?

He's just kind of ignoring

all of it. It's just literally happening

in the background of the movie.

But then at the end,

and this is the worst part of the movie actually,

because they fumbled it so badly, but they had

to do it. At the end um he finally has this

disgusting uh dancing part he escapes the police he shoots murray he shoots murray then he gets taken in or something and then he uh He shoots Murray.

Then he gets taken in or something.

And then he... Then the protesters with the Joker mask blow up the police car,

who he previously had ignored and attributed no significance to whatsoever.

Then finally,

he realized the stars aligned.

Like, oh, these are the people

who freed me from this police car.

Now I step out of the police car,

step on top of it.

And now I recognize that this is all of my making.

And now the kind of mutual recognition happens.

He was the person that they, society was responding to the whole time.

And he recognizes in the response society gave back to him the existential answer to his dilemma.

So you see it's this kind of two recognition, mutual recognitions, that form the end of the film.

And again, it's kind of the same thing when it comes to world history, right?

That's kind of the...

That's Kouchev's logic of the mutual recognition between the philosopher and the

tyrant and you can ignore the specific content of the tyrant in terms of the specific

political wisdom and the philosopher, the kind of intellectual wisdom or whatever, because

theoretical wisdom.

Because for Kojev, these two different dimensions of historical reality, it is kind of like

microcosm, macrocosm.

Like, the tyrant is meant to confirm the wisdom of the philosopher in a way the philosopher cannot directly kind of give expression to himself.

So that the indirectness of how they share an identity, in other words, speculative identity, is something they have to develop toward a mutual recognition of.

And that way they can join as one, right?

So it's the same as microcosm, macrocosm,

of nomadic societies versus sedentary ones. Nomadic societies are always much smaller than nomadic ones.

The Mongol armies were, in the beginning at least,

much smaller than the armies they were facing against.

They were a marginal group of people at the edge of an empire, and they had beef with the emperor of China because he was siding with Genghis Khan's op within the Mongol people. He was citing, he appointed

some other Mongol guy or something

that Genghis Khan had beef with.

So the Emperor of China

himself became caught in the

crossfire

because Genghis Khan standing on business

within his own tribe

allowed him to do it also to the emperor

of China himself.

You get what I'm saying? Like, the logic

could extend.

Yeah. and then and only then does it become clear that this confirms the logic or sorry the rationality of a kind of larger historical development, which is far, far beyond the provincial context of the Mongol nomads in their, in Mongolia or or whatever this is world history itself something about the

provincial and parochial dispute within these small Mongol peoples became the receptacle of a much wider and larger and much more universal rationality of history that all societies had to pay tribute to quite literally and recognize themselves.

They had to recognize the revolution that restores honor. They had to recognize the revolution that restores honor.

They had to recognize the authority of the Mongol Khan, who restored honor to his own people, and who therefore insists upon restoring honor to the whole world, everything under the blue sky.

And then it's even more beautiful kind of the story, because what then do the Mongols do?

There's a deeper kind of step um they recognize we weren't the first

this is the first kind of end of history first modernity in a way

where they

see the

story of

Genghis Khan

is the same

as the

story of the

prophet of

Islam, which is

already the

religion of

a lot of

these places

we're conquering.

And they

somehow say, were conquering and they somehow see in that history and that religion a confirmation of everything

that they had done to conquer these societies to encounter it in the first place.

That's for another topic, obviously, but it's still...

Now, Genghis Khan himself did...

This isn't applied to him himself. I'm talking about his descendants.

But isn't that to him himself. I'm talking about his descendants.

But isn't that kind of interesting? It's like the Mongols became the most familiar

with what they themselves were existentially and historically.

When they encountered this religion that had already existed,

which itself sanctified the logic of nomadic conquest of sedentary societies and nomadic revolutions. We're not done yet, all right?

We're not done yet. We're not done yet, all right? We're not done yet.

Because how does this apply to the Communist Party?

Think about it.

Do we sit here and say, oh, we're just going to conquer America and we're just going to take over America and America is not the immediate context of infrared business and concern. That's way too broad. Our issue is a little more specific, actually.

Our issue is within the Communist Party, USA. That is the symbolic context. That is the context of the symbolic order. We seek to restore. That's the signifier we seek to restore. Not the whole universal of America, but specific party one party the communist party right and what does it mean what does it mean what I'm telling you right now?

It means if we conquer the Communist Party, we conquer the whole fucking country.

That's what it means.

We don't have to worry about Biden or Trump or any of these other people.

Because once we take power in this party, once we take power in the one communist party,

who the fuck is going to stop us?

We will be unleashed upon the entire world. We are within the tomb of Tamerlane. And when that tomb opens, something will rise that makes the world tremble that tomb is the communist party USA and that is our nomadic context ladies and gentlemen the era of

economic nomads

in America

at least

truckers or

we're not going to go there

but in terms of the historical

role fulfilled by nomads Lenin was a nomad, Bolsheviks were nomads, Mao was a nomad.

Communist Party has always been at the edge, at the rim, outside of the sedentary society, not within it. You know who became corrupted by

sedentary society of the bourgeoisie? Karl Kotzky, Edward Bernstein, Nikita Khrushchev,

Gorbachev. These are people who became corrupted by the temptress of sedentary society.

So you see the logic at play.

There's a nomadicism to communism itself in terms of the construction of the Communist Party, which is an authority of the symbolic order, and that's the integrity upon which it stands. So, yes, I'm a Mongoloid. That's why I'm a Mongoloid when you think about it.

Can you explain the Mongol split in the Communist Party?

It's obvious.

It's a dispute about the honor and integrity of the history of the Communist Party. They have forgotten the name of the forefathers of the Communist Party. They've forgotten the name of William Z. Foster. They've forgotten the thing that founded the party itself in distinction from other parties, in distinction from the rest of political society. Why was it necessary that a communist

party specifically had to be constituted in this country why communists specifically it's the same

reason why the mongol social order had to be founded specifically it's a specific order of the

law our order of the law is that of the revolutionary law.

The laws of history itself taking the concrete form of the Communist Party the recognition of that law it's

nothing more than the recognition of his see the law that we are recognizing is not just the law of a specific political order.

It's the laws, the objective material.

It's literally science, the material laws of history themselves.

Our political order, our political authority is founded founded will be founded upon the recognition of the objectivity of historical laws the objectivity of nations of countries peoples, of civilizations.

It's the wisdom and recognition of these realities

that give communist parties the mandate of heaven the proper recognition of course communism is nomadic at the outset

communists are in no way integrated with society they're not integrated with a mode of production. The whole dilemma of why aren't the

communists immediately the same as the workers? Well, it's simple. It's simple. Communists at the

outset don't have an immediate social existence.

Of course,

I mean, look at Stalin

going factory to factory,

going province to province,

going one moment he's in Siberia fighting literal wolves,

and another moment he's firebombing a factory.

Not saying we should do that.

Another moment he's robbing a bank or some shit.

You know?

Anyway, guys, I hope you enjoyed the stream just wanted to explain this to you

uh... i wanted to explain to you and maybe give you confidence that history is on our side in terms of the fact that CPUSA is not just about some small party.

It's an indirect form in which we commune with world history itself.

The stakes are so much bigger.

The stakes are so much bigger than The stakes are so much bigger

than what you can anticipate.

There's so much

bigger. What is that stake?

See, the reason

I can say this overtly is because the private context of communism is indirectly

and this is in the name communism the private context of political communism of the internal drama within the party. What is that stake there?

Is the whole social reality of America, the whole of America as a country. The common reality of America itself

first has to take a private form. Our monarchy, our monarch, our monarchical authority is the

sacred name of the party. Never forget that. Hegel's

Prussian monarch, that's the party for

us. The same reason why

Hegel believed in monarchy is why

we believe in the party.

Understand

that. When Hegel attributes to the monarch a kind of unification of the private interest with a universal interest and how those who seek to eliminate monarchy neglect to acknowledge how there cannot be an immediately universal

interest. It has to be mediated indirectly through some kind of concrete private interest,

right? Well, it's the same thing with the Communist Party explicitly. A Communist

Party is not open to the whole public. It's not open to everyone. It is a private interest. It does

have its own interests. But those interests, when applied in reality, actually end up amounting to the universal

interest just not immediately so so it's the same logic of Hegel's Prussian monarch

but as an institution the, not a single person.

See, right-wing retards are doing this nonsense of aestheticizing Baron Trump.

Oh, Barron! Shut the fuck up bitch that's not political authority

this is political authority this is political authority, what are they?

What is this?

If not, I don't want to be offensive.

But it's kind of a little fruity.

You know how they, oh, Baron Trump has the luck.

He has the luck.

He has the luck.

Well, you know what we fucking have we have the law bitch we have the actual

fucking law we have the honor we actually have something to fight for.

Our party.

And everyone will pay tribute to the Communist Party, or they're going to be wiped off the face of the earth.

All political factions in America, all political chiefs in America, all political powers in America, you will pay tribute to the Communist Party, or you will be wiped off the face of the earth. That is my pledge and that is my promise to you from now until the day that I inherit world history itself, the history of this country.

The only political power that is worthy of the history of this country is the political power that disdains to conceal its aims, the political

power that explicitly avows itself, the guardian, the champion of the common interest,

the party of labor, the party of the working class, the party of the proletariat, the party of the class which represents the universal existence and interests of society, and avows itself, and assumes the responsibility of it as such.

What is this, if not the purport of a republic, of a res publica, of a commonwealth?

That's what a communist party is.

That's why it deserves political power.

Not because it's one race arbitrarily claiming that it's superior to others.

Not because it's one ethnicity or one religion or one tribe gassing itself up with fucking hot air that's actually one big smelly fart

because it's a communist party that is built upon the premise and built upon the purport that we will fight for you we will fight

for the whole people for the whole society for the whole country for humanity itself that's why that's why the communist party deserves power

because it is the universal interest

of all society because it is the form

the political form of world history itself

world history not taken one-sidedly, not taken as one aspect,

but the whole damn thing, the integration of the entire thing. Thank you. Communism is all individual freedom removed.

You want to know what?

That would be your paradise.

You don't want individual freedom.

If you wanted individual freedom, you would be a communist.

You would be a dedicated communist.

Because that is the most free thing you can do.

That is the one option you have.

That is the one thing you can do without being a shill and without being controlled by some established power.

Individual freedom to do what?

To do what? Tell me to do what do what to do drugs to play video games to pick your ass to masturbate to cartoons freedom to do what for what freedom to do what for what existence exactly ask yourself that question what is this freedom

you cherish and prize so much what is the arbitrary freedom to pick your ass and pick your

nose what is the freedom of that compared to the freedom to realize a possibility that will not be realized unless you stand up to the task? A historical freedom.

Individual freedom. What does that even mean to you?

Freedom for what?

You're not ready for individual freedom. freedom for what?

You're not ready for individual freedom yourself, and I can tell you're not.

Because the only time in which you're going to be ready for individual freedom is when you recognize that part of yourself as an individual that is simply fundamentally oblique

to any collective institution, to any other person that is only yours. The choice that is only yours and no one else's once you're ready to make that choice i'll be ready to call you

my comrade thank you so much crass once you have have a real sense of what individual freedom is, where you are truly

alone, where you're not just repeating the talking points of some right-wing community you came from,

or what Fox News told you, or what some Cold War anti-communist

Slop told you once you're really an individual left to the silence left to the true isolation,

the true individuality of what you are.

The only road available to you,

and you'll see that on your own,

is guided by

a red star that's what individual freedom is

republican party in fox News is communism.

Trump is a commie.

Is that freedom? Is that freedom? Is that individual freedom?

What individual freedom? What individual freedom are you trying to carry on that you think we want to take away from you?

That's what I want to.

What individual freedom are you so insecure about?

You want to know something, doctor, and i'm not trying to scold you

really i'm not i'm just excited you know because i'm a such a great orator right i have never been worried about my individual freedom.

Because I will die for what I believe in.

I have never, ever worried about someone taking my freedom away.

Did you know that?

Because when, when push comes to shove, I have something to live for.

And no one can take that away from me as long as I am breathing.

As long as you can come and shoot me.

You can come and shoot me in the head.

You can stab me in my heart.

And my death will still be mine.

You understand? That knife that goes in me that's still me

that's still my freedom my death is mine and no one else's that's individual freedom if you're insecure about your individual

freedom if you're worried someone's going to take it from you sounds like me sounds to me

like you're too cowardly to live for something you believe in.

Why are you scared of someone taking away your individual freedom?

Why be scared?

If you're truly free, no one can take your freedom. Remember that. Remember I said this, guys. If you're truly a free man, no one can deprive you of your liberty. Think about it. If you're truly a free man, no one on earth can deprive you of your liberty.

Because even if they kill you, that death was only yours and no one else's. Think about that.

Think about that. Think about that.

No one can take your freedom.

Only, but only if you have something to live for.

Remember that.

Only if you have something to live for.

Now that's a good way to conclude it.

That's my response to libertarians upset that their individual freedom will be violated.

No one can take your individual freedom.

Absolutely no one can.

So don't be scared.

Because if someone can take it away from you, you've never had it.

Totally going to debate me. All right, get in VC. Get in VC then. I'll wait.

I mean, I'd prefer to just go to bed. Ed Gentry. What's up? What's up

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quick i don't want to wait 10 minutes give us your username so we can immediately uh we can immediately bring you in tomorrow okay tomorrow then

okay tomorrow i need like 30 minutes to destroy you

just come now

just come now

just come now

I'm not I'm not gonna be live tomorrow, so just get in VC now, just tell us your username.

Will you stream tomorrow? I'm not streaming tomorrow, so just get in now.

Uh, if you say you need 30 minutes, it doesn't matter if it's today, tomorrow, or the next day.

I'm not just going to have you on so you speak uninterrupted for 30 minutes straight.

It's going to be a debate.

How long it is will depend upon how it goes.

But you're not, there's no guarantee

it's going to be 30 minutes long

unless you have a 30 minute speech you've prepared,

in which case,

you're going to have to condense it

if you want to come on stream.

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This guy's scrolling.

Dr. J.

Well, have you been... Is he in the server?

Dr. J.

We don't... you didn't join our server. Do you see him, Amirio?

I don't see him.

Can't find your server.

I think he's trolling to keep me up.

Joining now.

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That's awesome, man. You got it, you already got it set up for quick Yeah. That's awesome, man.

You already got it set up for quick debates.

That's awesome, man.

Yeah.

That's gangster.

Yeah, what's up?

So, let me ask you a question, man.

Do you not think that America follows currently all ten planks of the Communist Manifesto right now?

No, but let's assume it did hypothetically. It wouldn't matter because the ten planks were not ten points of principles of communism.

They were strategically ten things that they said if a communist party takes power,

you should just immediately start doing this.

But no, they don't.

I'll explain why. I mean, unless you're going to interpret it. this, but no, they don't. Okay.

I'll explain why. I mean, unless you're going to interpret it,

10 Planck's Communist Manifesto. Let's look at it, right?

I'm looking at it right now.

Is that not the blueprint of communism abolition of property in land uh no that we don't have that um we have a heavy progressive or graduated income tax yes Yes, we do.

Let's slow down.

Number one, abolish and evolve of all private property and land.

Don't pay your taxes and you'll find out who the real property owner is real fast.

Sure, but that's not what they meant in the manifesto.

They meant that actually all the land would be publicly owned by the state directly.

All the lands are owned by the state because you have to pay them. Then why do we still have

to pay rent to parasitic landlords?

Well, that's not

oh, that's another, that's another...

No, it's not another issue because the point,

the purpose of that plank in the Communist

manifesto is to, it's not

to immediately abolish a private property in general, it's to

abolish parasitic landlords and landowners who basically don't contribute anything to the economy,

but just sit on the land and force productive members of society.

And in this context, including capitalists, to just pay them rent, that contributes nothing.

I get that argument.

But first, you have to get rid of the argument of abolishing all

private property. And in America

it's already abolished because you don't

own property. It can be taken away from you.

If you have something that can be taken away

from you, it's not yours. Period.

Period. There is no argument there.

If it's going to be taken away from you yeah but

we can we can get into the specifics of that and i'm open-minded when it comes to um number two

heavy progressive no no no no no no don't don't me. But that's not what was, that's not the first plank of the Communist manifesto. I agree that as an institution, private property is no longer universal, which means only a small minority of people actually have private property, and those are the cartel of private banks that own the country, monopoly banks, the international cartel of monopoly banks that actually control America.

Those are private institutions.

They're not publicly accountable to anyone.

They're not public institutions.

They are private.

And they own everything.

That's because they're in bed with government.

But they own the government.

The government is literally in debt to them, okay?

Agreed, but that's not capitalism.

That's corporate. Oh, we can get into it.

You can call it whatever you want,

but they still have private property.

It's just that no one else has it.

So I agree with that.

The institution of private property has become extremely exclusive, right?

But the first plank of the Communist manifesto has not been fulfilled in the United States, to be clear.

Because we still... I'll agree to disagree with you because

I say that you don't own shit in America because they can take it from...

But the Communist Manifesto was not just saying

we want to stop people from owning shit in the last instance. It was saying

we want to abolish and what they meant by

private property a property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes they wanted

to get rid of the private accumulation of rent, which is still

widespread in America.

So no, it has not been implemented.

Well, the

only retort

I could say to you on that

subject is that

if you give

somebody has to oversee it so

in communism if you give somebody

to oversee that everybody gets

fair rent or whatever so there's no monopolies

no no no listen

all all it means is that

you don't have a parasitic

class from the feudal

ages of landowners.

If you were a capitalist

at this time and you owned a factory,

some guy who would have

a charter to the land that your factory stands

on and you have to constantly pay him rent he's not contributing anything to the productivity of the land that your factory's on or even the soils on he's just collecting rent from you parasitically because he has a monopoly on it so it was a form of monopoly property that they were trying to get rid of.

In America, the opposite actually happened.

The monopoly property in land extended actually beyond land

and is going toward other aspects of life.

The insurance scam, all this kind of, all these things we have to pay rent to just to live in this country is an extension of the feudal property and land that the Communist Manifesto was trying to abolish.

I was proposing it should be immediately abolished.

As a capitalist, I agree. Go ahead.

Are you a capitalist? What do you mean by that?

I am so far to the right that Trump is a

communist to me. That's how far to the right that Trump is a communist to me.

That's how far to the right.

That wasn't what I was asking.

I was asking, are you actually a capitalist?

Like, do you actually have capital?

Or do you accumulate capital?

I'm a real estate investor.

What does that mean?

I buy and sell

and flip property. How many houses

do you own?

Zero. I have

11 lots.

I wholesale contracts

on properties.

I'm a low-tier real estate investor. Low-tier. I'm a low-tier

real estate investor.

Low-tier. I'm not a rich, big-shot,

real-estate investor. But I do

all right. I don't have to work a 9-to-5 job.

So what you do

for a living is you just own these lots and nothing

else?

No, I flip property.

I get it low and sell it low and make a profit, make a spread.

I don't think... I also do a little bit of a developing.

I'm developing a couple mobile home parks that were raw land that I'm turning in. I think you're you would be class. I'm not saying this as an insult. Like when I say petty, I just mean small scale. I think it would be classified more as a petty landlord rather than a capitalist.

I'm a small-scale real estate investor. I just said that.

Not a capitalist, though. You're just a kind of small-scale landlord.

I don't know why that wouldn't be capitalist. I think... Because you're not actually, you're not valorizing capital in any kind of way.

You're just kind of,

uh,

buying and selling commodities high and low.

In this case,

in the form of loss.

If I want to sell you a pencil and charge you a million dollars for

the pencil,

it's up to you to buy

it for a million dollars or not buy it. Right, but that's not

capitalism. To be a capitalist, you have

to be kind of producing commodities,

which is not what you're doing.

So you don't know, so you're another

communist who doesn't understand what

capitalism is.

I understand now.

What is capitalism according to you?

I have a pencil.

Yeah.

I want to trade you from your fish from my pencil because you need a right.

That's not capitalism.

That's bartering, which has existed for all

time do you think capitalism has always existed well the bartering system is clunky as fuck so we had to

replace it with something of value so we could all trade without having a physically hand to a pencil.

Okay.

You physically hand me a fish.

I'm not going to physically hand you a fish and you're going to physically hand me a pension.

Right.

But trade, do you think trade is the same thing as capitalism?

Yes.

Well, I think you're a little confused because

what people describe as capitalism is something that's only existed

for the past few hundred years, whereas trade has existed for

much longer than that. So I don't agree

that trade is the same thing as capitalism.

I think that your definition of capitalism is actually corporatism, where capitalists, or fake

capitalists, these corporations, use government to make

them create monopolies, which you're

against, and I'm totally for it.

So I'm against your print. I'm all

Your four monopolies?

No, no, no. I'm for your principal.

I'm stuttering. Yeah.

No problem.

For your principle. I totally agree with your principal. I'm stuttering. Yeah. No problem. Before your principle.

I totally agree with your principle.

I just disagree with the way to go about it.

Capitalism today is not capitalism.

And America is not capitalist.

Everybody thinks America's capitalist.

It's not.

It's corporatist.

Do you think capitalism has ever existed at any point?

Yeah, in the early days of America,

when America blew the fuck up and made all this fucking industry

and innovations

and everything like back in the day

in the 70s you can go buy a house

yeah but that that was

but that but the

federal reserve

um took over the reins of government finances.

The Federal Reserve is the opposite of capitalism.

Right, but you're saying we were capitalist in the 70s, but the Federal Reserve was created in the

1910s. You're right.

That was a good point. It was

on the downturn, for

sure, because of the Federal Reserve,

which is

fractional

reserve banking, which is shitional reserve banking,

which is shit.

And that's what started

our downturn.

Was fractional reserve banked?

Yeah, but

but you need to appreciate

the fact that

the era in which there were

less monopolies

gave rise

to monopoly because it's the logic of

markets itself. How do monopolies themselves

take form?

They take form because it's the logic of

capitalism itself.

By lack of competition,

when capitalists compete with each other

prices go down.

So,

but competition,

the logic of competition itself

is what creates monopolies

because eventually...

No, no, no.

Yeah.

The government creates monopolies by being in bed.

No, it's not that the government creates monopolies necessarily.

That's not correct on the order of causation.

What happens is that through the logic of competition, one becomes stronger than all the rest, right?

And then using their wealth, they're able to corrupt the government and buy the government, yes, to enforce a monopoly through like regulatory capture or something, right?

So, yeah, they do use the government to enforce monopoly. I agree with that. But the only reason they were able to do that in the first place is because they control the very means of production, because they have enough wealth and they control enough through the market itself.

That's true to a point.

But let's take this example.

Let's say Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook is tired of TikTok taken over, so they use the government just to delete the competition.

That's the most basic form of not capitalism.

Yeah, but all I'm trying to tell you is that you can't go back to some ideal of capitalism because this is the product of that ideal, according to you.

Well, the product is government. Okay, so let's take it one step further and talk about communism.

Somebody has to run it.

So in order to have someone run it, it would be government.

Government's the problem.

So even if we...

Let's say I agree with you and let's be all communist and everybody's equal, right?

Somebody has to run it.

And the people that run it are the government.

And the bigger an institution is,

the more mismanaged and greed

and shit they become. So, giving

more power to an entity to oversee

communism, you're giving

them fuckers more power, and they're going to

fuck you in the ass every time.

The whole point is to give power to the people

and away from a fucking centralized government.

Communism needs a centralized government that's going to fuck you in the ass. It doesn't work.

That's not true. We don't want to give the government more power. We want to actually completely

to smash the government system that's in place.

And we want, yeah, we do want a better government.

We want a stronger government. Then I would agree with you 100%

and I'll be a commie, commie today.

But unfortunately, reality says

that when you want somebody

to, somebody has to

run this shit and you have to get

government to do it and government's

going to butt fuck you. Somebody

somebody does need

to be in charge to

help protect our

sovereignty and our claim that's the problem to this land charge that's the

problem you need you always need an authority you always need an authority if there's no

central authority of any kind,

then the whole thing goes to shit

and you know it and I know it. There's got to be

a central authority. Yes. Yes,

there has to be. I agree. I agree

what you on more than

not. I agree with you on a lot.

I just don't agree with you on the

way to go about it. Now, if you

give the power to a central

authority, the bigger the

central authority, the more they

butt-fuck you. The smaller the central

authority, the less they butt-fuck

you. That's what happened. It's not about how big the central authority the less they butt-fuck you. That's what

It's not about how big the central

authority is. It's about who the

central authority answers to.

If the central authority answers

to a private cartel of banks,

it doesn't matter how big or small it is. It's working

against the common interest but if the central

authority responds to the people again it doesn't matter how big or small it is people that's why

government has to be small as fuck because they're going to

bug you regardless.

The government has to be small as

fuck and the only way to make them

small as fuck is to take some

of the government... If the government

answers to the people,

why would it have to be small?

Because the bigger it gets, the less it'll answer to the people.

But that's not true. The government...

That's not true.

Why is the government getting big, making it able to answer less to the people

because it does what it wants today where do you live at are you in am are you in america i'm in

michigan yeah but listen listen the the government today is, to quote you, but fucking the people, not because it's getting away with what it wants to.

Not because it's big.

Not just because it's big, okay, but because it is in debt to and it's controlled by and it answers

to a private cartel of international banks whose interests conflict with ours. And why they're

able to get away with the things that they do is because we don't own or control any of the resources at the end of the day.

So they can quite literally do anything they want.

They can do anything they want to us and we're powerless because we can get fired.

We can lose our livelihood right away.

We have no way to actually be sovereign as a people because we don't even own the land and stand on.

I agree.

But the only thing I disagree on is we're powerless because the sheeple, the people, are stupid as fuck, and we vote for it.

Like, look at the Trumpies.

Look at the Trumpies out there.

Trump, Trump there Trump Trump Trump

I don't think we should be

blaming the people I think we should be blaming

the so-called leaders of the people

right now who are leading them astray because

at the end of the day man

people you're right people

tend to not be educated and yeah people tend to be fucking stupid. People are voting for their own butt fuck. Hey, Trump, can you butt fuck? That's, that's, that's, people, people are, I agree, people do vote to get fucked over. Like I agree.

But we have, as Americans,

we have a responsibility

to continue educating people

and to have faith that

they're can't, but this is the thing, man.

People, you know why people keep voting to get fucked over?

Because they respect the Republicans and the Democrats as authorities in this country.

The minute you say you're against authority and you don't believe in authority in this country, no one's

ever going to respect you politically.

The only way

the people will ever

respect you is if you take responsibility

for the authority of this country,

good or bad.

I'm not an anarcho-capitalist.

I'm not an anarchist.

I'm telling you straight up what it is.

People will not ever wake up from that slumber.

It's like a battered wife.

You know how a battered wife works?

She's never going to escape the clutches of her abusive husband until a bigger guy comes along and beats the shit out of that guy.

And then if he's a good guy, he's going to let her free and, you know,

free her from all that abuse but until her

brothers or her father or somebody comes in and sets that guy straight and establishes

himself as a bigger man and a bigger authority than him she's going to be trapped in

that eternal cycle of constantly coming back to that abusive man.

Why? Because there's no man that's a bigger authority in her eyes than him. And, you know, that's what this question ultimately hinges on. How can free Americans

build an authority

that's bigger than the government

itself? Not in terms of the

wealth that it has. Not in terms

of the power that it has,

but in terms of the integrity that it

has, in terms of the honor that it has, in terms of the honor that it has, in terms of having something to die for and to live for, in terms of having principles to stand on, and a willingness, and this is the most important thing, a willingness to fight for those principles and to stand on business and actually enforce them and actually defend them, right? Basic manhood. That's what this country needs.

Yes, it does. I agree with you a lot more than I don't agree with you. We're very similar on agreements here, okay? Now, here's the thing that we had in place to stop all that nonsense you're spewing about how we're getting fucked. The way to get not

fucked is the Constitution

we had set up and the Constitution

nobody follows. The government

don't follow. That's right back to where we came from.

It's right back to where we came from.

Even if I agreed with you that our Constitution's all

we need.

If nobody respects the Constitution as an authority, it's just a piece of paper.

Who's going to

be the authority

that stands on the Constitution?

Oh, we're fucked.

It's too late, dude. We're fucked. They ignored the Constitution. If we had the Constitution. Oh, we're fucked. It's too late, dude, we're

fucked. They ignored the Constitution. If we

had the Constitution and they actually

respected it and followed it, we'd be

fine. Listen, we're not fucked.

All you need to do is have the courage

and the integrity to stand on

business.

As a free American, all you have to do is stand up, stand on business, and lead people.

Be an authority. Be an authority.

You sound like a fucking politician right now.

So what?

How old are you, dude?

27.

27.

All right, I'm 47.

I got 20 years on you, dude.

And I like your energy, and I like the fact that you're fucking all in on being involved in political discussion. This is awesome. And I agree with a lot of what you say. The only thing we disagree on

is how to go about shit. So we agree, and that's important. We all need to find a common ground. And that's the problem with Republicans and Democrats. One or the other, Coke or Pepsi. There's a whole middle ground that discussion that's not being had. So I appreciate you coming on here.

Yeah. And look, I'm just telling you if your country's under occupation

which America is if you if you if the country is under occupation there is no way around it

except having the courage to represent an alternative power, an alternative government.

When you say the government itself in principle is, and political authority itself and principle is the issue, you're forgetting

that the problem is not government in principle. The problem is government that we have now

is a occupying government. We don't have a constitution. You're right. We don't have a republic.

That's also correct.

But the only way we can restore authority to what the founding principles of this country were by the founding fathers, whether you're a communist or not, by the way way the only way you can restore authority to popular

sovereignty is by being a bigger man than the republicans and the democrats in the eyes of the people

and what it takes to do that isn't just having more money it's not just being bigger in terms of you know how much power

you already have it's being able to earn their respect and that's exactly what dissidents in this

country are failing to do.

Because it's hard. I mean, you know why the government gets away with so much?

Because all the revolutionaries are squabbling with their egos and their

nonsense and their pettiness and their emotions

and they can't get their

shit together

and have the maturity

and have the worthiness of actual

leadership. And that's

the issue, really.

If revolutionaries of any kind

can sort their business out internally,

there's no mountain they can't surmount.

There's no government too big for them to...

You are running for fucking Senate,

dude. You're running for mayor.

Listen, here's why

I'm running for mayor, okay?

Here's why I'm running

for mayor. Listen, I'll tell you why.

Because if I met you in person at a

bar, I would talk

to you just like some guy, right?

But I'm not talking to you like that right

now, because I'm not

just talking to you as me, some guy. I'm talking

to you on behalf of an entire

community that's watching this. I'm talking to you

on behalf of an entire movement. It's not just me. It's an entire community that's watching this. I'm talking to you on behalf of an entire movement.

It's not just me. It's an entire

thing we got going on here.

I'm talking to you while also

being responsible to the people who

respect and follow me as well.

That's why I sound like a politician.

The reason I'm not being just

another... If I met you in

person, if I met you in person

at a bar,

I would sound a lot different, right?

If I met you in person,

you know,

um...

Right now, I'm having a beer.

At a workplace? At a beer, a beer yeah yeah yeah i'm a human being all right i'm a i'm a normal dude but right now i have this platform i have this audience and i'm

being responsible to them when i'm speaking in this way, when I'm saying

we have to do this, that people

have to have the courage to do this, to have that.

Because I'm actually trying to get some shit done here, dude. That's the thing.

I'm actually trying to make a difference in some kind of way.

Like, I'm not just here to shoot the shit and complain about the world.

I'm actually here because I'm pursuing a path, which I believe to be a solution.

Like, I'm pursuing a path that I actually think is going to yield results.

It's actually going to fucking build something.

It's actually going to do something that's going to make an impact on the history of this country itself.

And I might be fucking crazy and delusional for thinking that, but that's what I've dedicated my life to do.

Um, hey, man, I love it, man. I'm so glad that you, uh, actually taught to people, and you even

had it ready to rock when I jumped in. You're like,

hey, Jay, jump in there, motherfucker if you want to talk shit. I love it. It's awesome. I love the fact

that you're open to debate. And I agree with you on more than I don't agree with you on. Just disagree on

the, on the, how to go

about it. Um,

the constitution was set up.

That's how America blew the fuck up.

This was Indian

freaking desert.

And then all of a sudden

it blew up

with infrastructure

when you worked

at a fucking

remember

remember

they wasn't

communist back

in the day

but they went out

the dad worked

at a fucking

factory

and he could

afford to buy a house he could afford to buy a house

he could afford to have a car.

You're talking about

what FDR did

for this country. That's because

of what FDR did. No, I'm talking about the Constitution

did. The Constitution that we drafted

in the early

parts of the country, when

the country started, that's what made

America blow the fuck up.

And the lack of the constitution,

the lack of capitalism

is what's destroying it now.

We're actually more communists now than before it now. We're actually more

communists now than before.

We're super communist now. We follow

all ten planks of the communist

manifest of. We got through one plank.

I'll get through the other fucking nine

planks. We follow all... All right. We can do

that, for starters.

So we do have

a progressive or graduated income tax.

Most modern countries do. So that's

number two.

There's number two. Abolition of all

rights of inheritance. That's clearly not the case

in the United States today.

It's also not true in China either, by the way.

So these aren't principles.

Define confiscation of all

property, of all immigrants,

and rebels. Describe that.

What does that mean? Hold on. We have to go through all these

one at a time. Centralization

of credit in the hands

of the state by means of a national bank.

We don't have that.

The Federal Reserve is not controlled by the

public. It's a private

it's private sector

centralization of the means of communication

and transport it's labeled as private

it's not no it's a dude do you think

jp morgan is uh publicly accountable to anybody? The Federal Reserve is privately owned by a handful of monopolists.

They're private, but they're in bed with the government. That's what I'm saying. They're not just in bed. They own our government and control it. It might as well be the same shit as what I'm saying. It's an occupying power, but it's a private. It's the private sector occupying us and taking our popular sovereignty away. How can private institutions own something that's public? And that's the

problem. And that's exactly what an occupation is. The public should be the one in control, the popular

sovereignty. That's what the Constitution says, we the people. That's not what's in control.

The sector is not in control without the people. That's not what's in control. The sector is not in control without the government is what I'm trying to pound into your head.

They're in control when they occupy and hijack, but they are in control when they occupy and hijack our government and use

it for their private interests instead of

the common interest. That's what all

happened under communism as well. Same shit.

Not absolutely

not true. What are you talking about?

Go to the woods and start a commune.

What's the problem?

I'll give you a piece of land right there.

Communism's got nothing to do with communes.

Communism is about the world...

Listen, communism is about the dictatorship of the common interest.

That's what it's about.

It's not about...

I'll buy you a fucking...

I'll buy you a piece of land in Michigan right now, because Michigan's a piece of shit.

I could buy a fucking two anchors in Michigan right now.

What state are you from?

What state are you from? What state are you from?

I'm in Florida.

You're in damn

Florida calling another state a piece of shit.

Let's rein it down, all right?

I actually live in a real state.

Equally hate

all states, equally.

Well, I don't hate Michigan.

Anyway,

let's continue on this.

Centralization of the means of communication

and transport in the hands of the state. not the case extension of factories centralization of communication is a hundred percent of centralized communication not in the hands of but not but not in the hands of the state, in the hands of, again, the same

private cartel.

In the hands of the Fed.

Yeah, in the hands of the Fed.

Are you not aware of all these

fucking, all these fucking internet

laws

they're passing to keep things

in the hands of the fucking coroni capitalists.

Right. So it's not the state. Anyway, extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state. Nope. And bringing into cultivation of wastelands. Nope.

Improvement of the soil generally in accordance with the common plant.

Absolutely not.

Monsanto is doing the opposite.

Equal liability of all to work.

Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

That'd be nice for the unemployed.

FDR may...

FDR maybe did 20% of that, but since then we haven't had anything like that.

You said you about to damn FDR.

Why do you always talk about

some fucking FDR?

It's just part of our history.

Combination of agriculture

with manufacturing industries,

a gradual abolition of all distinction

between town and country.

Are you kidding?

The distinction between...

27 years old, dude.

Huh?

27 years old. 27 years old. I love it, man. I love your energy.

By a more equable

distribution of the populace of the country,

the coastal demographics versus flyovers.

It's the opposite of that.

Free education of all children in public schools.

Okay, we have that.

Abolition of Child's factory labor in its present

form. Combination of education

with industrial production. We don't have that,

but we should.

I wish we had that.

Put the kids to work, man.

Anyway, anything else?

We don't, we don't even have, we have,

we have like maybe one of these,

which is a progressive income tax.

Pretty much nothing else. We have all, We have all 10 of them, but you just rambled through it and you didn't let me rebuttal any of them.

Because you're just going to say that it's centralized by monopolies in bed with the

government.

That means it's the state, but it's not.

Well, what I, the way, the way I label these things are corporatism.

So, so I need to explain to you like this, right?

The state, if it's owned by the state, then it's in the state's interest.

The state is an actor in whose interest things are being owned, right?

And, and done.

Let me ask you this.

Do you hate cannibalists? this. Do you hate capitalism?

Huh?

Do you hate capitalism and you like communism, correct?

I don't hate capitalism.

I just think it's impossible.

Okay.

So you're more communist than capitalist, correct?

Yeah.

Okay. So do you think that America is capitalist?

Today, I don't think, no, i think we're transitioning out of capitalism

that's an understatement um capitalism is not um private industry in bed with government. That's not

capitalism. We don't have capitalism.

That may not be what your ideal...

That may not be what your idea... Hold on,

but that may not be your ideal of what

capitalism should be, but

it is what capitalism

became and gave rise to.

No, capitalism didn't become that.

Capitalism morphed into something else.

This is not capitalism.

This is bullshit.

Yeah.

This is fucking...

You just said it.

Capitalism...

Hold on.

You just said it. hold on you just said it

capitalism

morphed

into something else

but it was

capitalism that did

the morphing

if my Pokemon

if my

Pikachu

our government

shouldn't let

capitalism fucking do it, but our government

sucked capitalism's dick

and why did the government let capitalism

do it?

Money.

And why? So why was money so important?

Think about it. Really? Think about it.

Think about it.

Really?

Because money, because you have to acknowledge.

We do it.

Because economics are fucking everything.

That's why.

I love your eddick.

Listen, if we...

I look your head to you. Like, we're misguided like all the other 27

year olds if we neglect

the economic

and ignore

you didn't you did you go to fucking college

uh

yeah but i didn't.

I didn't really...

Yeah, I know you did.

But you think I got this from college?

Did you ever paint your hair pink?

Dude, you need to understand something.

I went to college and I didn't go to class and I cheated on everything I could.

Like don't.

Me too.

I didn't get any ideas from college.

The only thing I learned from college was that the one year I took a community college and I took an astronomy class, which I actually learned some things from.

And I learned some math, but I didn't learn anything about politics from college.

I can assure that.

I think the Department of Education should be abolished.

What do you think about that?

I don't, I think the whole damn government that we have should be abolished.

But I think we, that doesn't.

We agree again.

Yeah, but I, but I also think that we can only

do that if we take responsibility

for governance and have a new

government.

Here's the problem. Whether it's

capitalist or communist or

how you believe or how I believe

the problem is,

is that everybody's so fucking stupid and everybody's a sheeple,

they're going to vote for themselves to get butt-fucked every time.

No, they're going to vote. No, no, no, they're going to vote for whoever has

the most legitimate authority

in their eyes.

They'll fucking

they'll just buy

the news broadcast

and the news

is going to tell you

to vote for your

Why is the news

freaking out?

Why are they

freaking out

about social media, then?

It's not news, because they're commies.

Why are they freaking out over TikTok?

What's that?

Why are they freaking out over TikTok then?

Because it's...

They're not making profits off of it because people don't buy the mainstream news anymore that's why thank god for that yeah yeah okay so there's a good answer and there and zuck wants to push the narrative and TikTok's not pushing them narrative

so they're gonna fucking get rid of TikToks

so they can get Zuck the cuck on there.

Who do you think, where do you think you learn to blame commies for everything?

Where did Americans learn that from i'm

just talking shit man i'm not blaming commies i'm just telling you where did americans learn to not

like commies who taught them that uh be okay i'll answer that. The government did.

The government did.

Comies Love government.

Commies love big government.

That's why I hate commies.

Listen, commies.

Big government has to run communism.

Who else is going to run it?

Are you going to go run it with your fucking picket sign?

What are you going to do?

Listen, my friend, that's what the government themselves told you.

That's what they want you to believe.

Communism gives government more power than they have now.

Anti-communism gives government less power.

No. They got you so sigh of, man. You got it all wrong, all right?

The commies, the FBI was created because the commies were trying to overthrow the government.

FBI needs to be abolished.

I agree.

But let me tell you what happened.

The FBI was created in this country because the commies were fixing to overthrow the government, according to them.

The commies were always fighting everything the government according to them. The commies were

always fighting everything the government did.

Every time the government was trying

to do some new war, was trying to

take away our liberties in some kind of way,

it was the commies that were standing up to

the damn government. So what did the

government do? They started demonizing the commies.

They started, and they started telling Americans that actually all the bad shit that we do,

that's commies.

And that's what Reagan, that scam artist started doing.

Reagan expanded government more than anyone else in history,

but he tried to make it seem like he was

anti-government, not because

he actually was, but because

he was trying to give more and sell

off more of our government to the private

bankers.

Reagan talked to anti-communist,

but his actions were

actually communists.

Reagan was a bullshit artist.

He wasn't a communist. He sold off our

government and our wealth to private

bankers. He sold it off to the private monopolies.

He just explains communism. That's communism.

No, let me tell you something. You think our Constitution is communism?

No, it's anti-God.

Why not? constitution's owned

by everybody

we all own it

it's all of ours

yeah

individual

liberty and freedom

but it's ours

it ain't it ours

the constitution

who does it belong to

everybody

they'll they'll take it away.

If the government, if the government, so imagine this, the government takes our constitution

and auctions it off to international bankers.

No, no, no, no.

They ignore the constitution.

They didn't auction anything off. They ignore the constitution. No, no, no, no. They ignore the Constitution. They didn't auction anything off.

They ignore the Constitution.

No, they sold our Constitution.

That doesn't even make sense, dude.

They sold it off.

They were bribing.

You're fucking talking like the riddler.

They sold off our Constitution. They sold off our Constitution.

They sold off our popular sovereignty.

Listen, they sold off our farms.

They sold off our land.

They sold off all of our wealth.

And we don't own a damn thing.

Don't blame communism.

The commies were trying to fight for you.

The commies were literally the good guys.

I'm trying to tell you 27-year-old,

that is Orange Communism.

That's going away from...

Listen, man, the commies were trying to warn you

about this shit and they all got put in jail

because of it. Remember what happened in the 50s?

Why do you think that was?

Let me ask you this. So the con, so so in your society if we started tomorrow the government would say look

everybody's equal listen no no no that's it no hey hold on that's the beauty of communism it's's not going to be what me. It's not going to be what I say I want society to be. Society is going to be how the people want it to be. It's going to be what the people decide amongst themselves. And you think the people are going to tell the government how they want it to be.

That's what we're doing right now and it's not working.

It's not working.

I'll tell you what's going to happen.

I'll tell you what's going to happen in communism.

It's delusional.

People are going to come together

in their town halls

they're going to decide how they govern them

we're doing that now we're doing that now

no they're not

oh they're doing it no they ain't

okay go to the town hall meeting

and tell me no they're not doing it

the town hall meetings all bought off i mean

you go to the town hall meeting in seattle bill gates all the whole damn thing you are our precious

sweetheart 27 year old i love your energy bro but you're very inexperienced,

dude, to debate these topics.

Very inexperienced.

Bro, I love you, man.

I wish you was my kid, bro.

My kid fucking doesn't even

think about this shit, man. I fucking love

it, man. I agree

with most of your shit.

I just disagree on the way we go about

it. And I love it. Why does that red flag?

Why does that tick you off so much?

What's so bad about that red flag?

Because the government's the problem.

And communism gives more power

to the government than capitalism

does. But not. Commis are the ones who

fight the government, man. Communists are the ones

that were fighting the government.

Yeah, but they have to structure a government to run the communism.

You don't get it.

Listen, you know, look, even if that's true, ain't that better than what we have now?

We have communism now.

The government has all the power

and they're butt fucking us.

The solution is

to give the...

This is how I see your argument.

I see your argument.

The government's the one that taught you that, though. That's the issue. I see your argument. I see your argument. The government's the one that taught you that, though. That's the issue.

I see your argument as follows. This is how I see your argument. Yeah. The government

needs more power with communism so they can straighten things out when the government

power is what's

fucking us now. No it ain't. So the only

way to have communism is to give the government

more power. Power ain't the

issue is who has the power.

That's the issue. And here's another problem. And here's another

problem with communism. Distribution

of goods and services. So let's say

the distribution of goods and services,

let's say healthcare, for example,

Obamacare, right? So that's

some kind of communist concept.

No, it ain't. It's controlled's controlled by what are you talking about the insurance

private sector controls that

no but i'm saying in a communist society

we'd have something like obamacare or some shit right

with a government oh hell no it's not going to be Obamacare. What are you talking about?

Okay, so how would health

care work in communism?

Probably be like

China's. Probably be

a mix.

So

in America,

let's take health care in America, let's take healthcare in America.

The reason why healthcare costs out the ass... It's because of Big Pharma.

It's an easy solution.

Big Pharma's the fucking problem.

Take...

No, this is what we do

Take all big pharma

Create a big ditch

Line them all next to the ditch

Drop them

There you go

You fucking farm them

I agree

I agree

But here's how you get rid of them

Stop It's cheap It's cheap I'll tell you I agree. I agree. But here's how you get rid of them.

It's cheap. I'll tell you how we get rid of them. One bullet for each of them.

In a hypothetical science fiction scenario. Now you're just

being freaking giddy. Listen, dude.

Healthcare sucks dick in America

and people don't have access to health care. Not because

of capitalism. We have no access because of something

similar to communism.

A centralized fucking source of services.

Centralized sources of services eliminate competition.

So we're not going to agree with the language, but it sounds to me like what you're saying

is that we have a communism.

You never let me finish, not one fucking thought.

Because you're just trying to say because it's centralized.

I get it.

I get it to show, and I don't want to,

I'm trying to let you have the floor, but at least let me get it. I get it to show, and I don't want to... I'm trying to let you have the floor,

but at least let me get some...

I finish you.

Say your piece.

So, like, with a healthcare system, for example,

we want to go fucking...

Fuck capitalism, it sucks.

We need to get some centralized

healthcare. Okay, great.

So they do it, right? And here's

what the healthcare system does.

It has

the government that

uses our taxes to pay them.

So they are guaranteed payment,

guaranteed elimination of all competition,

so why lower the price?

The taxpayer is going to fucking pay for it.

Why lower the fucking price?

And this is a, in general,

bro, private

private capitalists

stealing our money through taxes

is not communism, dude.

I don't know what to tell you.

Big Pharma stealing our

fucking taxes.

The government.

The government takes all our

money.

Why?

Why?

Why?

Why?

Why is the government

doing this?

That's what you got to answer.

Why is the government doing this?

Because the fucking they're they're fucking owner of the healthcare company

and they're butt fucking each other and they're fucking like,

yeah, let's get this free tax money.

Why is the government doing this?

Let's answer it.

Imagine if you opened up a fucking hospital.

You're avoiding it. And the government,

the government guarantees your payments on all the people you serve.

Why? Why would the government do that?

Why would the government do that?

I don't know, you tell me.

Because Big Pharma controls the damn government.

The big farmer, because Big Pharma!

Dude, I like you a lot, dude. We got to have this debate another time, bro. You're awesome.

Because the government's bought out. That's why.

Wait, what do you think? Let's switch it up, man. What do you think about Jerusalem and

Palestine?

I support Hamas, 1,000%

unconditionally

Um

Just like

abortion

And just like Jerusalem

Palestine

I'm in the middle

I saw Jerusalem, and these videos have been deleted from the internet. I watched a million videos. Israel took tanks and rolled into Palestine with their fucking tanks and their army

rolled into Palestine

in the middle of the night

woke up Palestinians out of fucking bed

in the middle of the night

in the house they've been there

for generations. They've been there

for generations. Yeah. been there for generations.

Yeah. Rolled up in there,

kicked him out the house in the middle of the night,

kids screaming, bulldozed

the fucking house and planted the Israeli

flag there. Israel's fucked

up, dude. Israel's

fucked up for doing.

Absolutely. And, you know, what would

George Washington do if he was dealing with that

shit, you know? But, but

there's, there's a middle ground.

You can't be 100%

one side and not a hundred

percent the other side. You got to look at both sides.

They fucked up too. They fucked up too.

Well, I'll put it to you this way. If you were living in 1776, are you picking up a musket and doing everything you can to get those British out?

Real estate investor.

I'm going to raise your rent and make you do it for a discount.

Really?

You ain't a patriot?

I'm a capitalist comeback.

You're not a patriot.

You're not going to,

you're not going to liberate America.

Capitalist scumbag.

I'll make you fight for me.

All right.

Well, fair enough.

No, I'm kidding.

Yeah.

Dude, hey, 27, you've got a good head on your shoulders and you're going places man i i i don't agree with any of that communist bullshit but uh i i enjoyed the combo all right, maybe one day you'll come around.

Change your mind. Who knows?

Nah, dude.

I'm so far the right

that Trump is a communist to me, dude.

Republicans are commies.

I think they're all commies. I'm

the most ultra-right

wing you'll ever talk to.

Let me give you something to respond. I'm

so far to the left wing that I also

think Trump's a commie.

Anyway, that's a commie. Anyway,

that's a joke you'll understand later.

But anyway,

anyway,

good talking, man.

I'm smacking down the beers, man. This was awesome.

Let's do it again, bro. I followed you. I'm going to beers, man. This was awesome. Let's do it again, bro.

I followed you.

I'm going to subscribe, man.

We need to talk one time on camera.

Appreciate it.

I appreciate it.

Fuck, Aiden Ross and neon bullshit, dude.

Like, kick needs to, like,

have some real fucking shit on here.

I agree.

Anyway, man,

I'll see you later.

Later, brother.

Thanks for the chat.

No problem.

I think that was funny.

Anyway, guys,

see y'all in two days.

I'm got to go right to bed.

See you guys.

Go run that already.

All right.

It's first Myron and Jubilee.

Never thought I'd, I never thought they let my iron on.

Okay. Cabana night club then covered $8.5.

When you were a bouncer and getting girls, where did you bring the girls back to?

Did you live with your parents or had your own apartment?

Well, I would live in Mehtab's house, or Mootab, whatever.

And we throw parties there.

It's kind of the same life as you.

Hold on.

Bro, stop getting me back.

No nigger we didn't forget about the documentary better.

I will, I will, I will. I will. I'm going to grab my PC first thing. And then we'll have everything on there.

The fuck did you go on. Fuck.

There you go.

There you go.

Monkey, guys, come on. Let me just react to this.

Hold on, hold on no.

Okay.

Protestant Zirka donated $5.

If a girl who chooses another guy over you decides to message you to talk again, can you manipulate them to pipe or should you just ignore?

Yeah, you can easily, but I don't think that builds your confidence.

I think you should ignore.

Unless you feel so much better than her.

Like, I'm not going to lie, this is fucking crazy to say,

but I feel so much on a higher level than the girls updated

that I can be around them without without losing it you know

Bill Cosby's they're kind of like they didn't do shit with their love

I'm currently reading Quran since I never have before

okay nice seems pretty much the same as the Bible

assigns the prophet and one free pass to slap a woman before bed when she wrong.

What's even the difference?

Seems both stemmed from men.

Yeah, nice.

Good luck with that.

Do you think just being in a fat body and being in the public space encourages obesity?

Yes.

Shame is what led me to an eating disorder.

When what we're looking for is stability.

That's your fault.

See, the problem is that you're a professional thing.