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What's going on man?

I see you

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I'm looking fresh as usual

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Toot my own horn guys

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This suit don't even fit me no more.

I lost so much weight.

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Excuse my French.

I'm not trying to swear no more.

Taryn Fivak.

Wow, what a surprise.

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if I awarded you a harem of the fat Fiona ogre hose you love?

You know, Taryn, it's a...

It's just a really tempting proposition, but...

Siyop, what's going on?

But I think Principal has to come first.

I think the...

I think Principal has to come first.

By the way, guys, we're going to be bringing on Malumbo.

If you don't remember him, he's the cool guy from Jubilee that we saw.

And we're going to have him on for a Zoom discussion. I have something else to announce as well. Red Saffron. What's going on, brother? How are you doing

Red Sffron?

I have something else to announce as well.

Johnny, two by four.

What's going on?

I'm going to kind of quiet down because I know I'm very loud.

I mean, I could be as loud as I want because it's my house.

A lot of people think I live with my parents or something.

I don't.

I can literally be as loud as I fucking want because it's my fuck wow I'm yelling a lot that was that was uh

that was chunky haze all right chunky haze was yelling a lot slim haze i don't yell

commie for Robbie what's going on

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so i got a suit custom

fit not this one i got a custom

fit suit

because this one didn't fit me right exactly as I wanted it.

And I went to go pick it up today and it straight up didn't fit me because I actually lost a lot of weight.

Because I've been walking a lot every day. I've been doing the carnivore diet. I don't know if you heard of it.

But I'm going back, pretty much like back to my original size. Like how I started out. I don't think I was ever

fat, but I was getting a little, a little bit big bit big you know a little bit big

but the reason I'm telling you this

because I know you care a lot

but the reason I'm telling you this is because

inspiration I mean I lost like 10 pounds

in a month

probably more than that.

You can do it.

It's actually you can do it.

You just got to work hard and you got to be determined and, man, put down that food.

I mean, just have what you need to have.

But once you stop eating so much, you stop

indulging in snacks and desserts and whatever, you start to appreciate that chicken, that grilled

chicken, you know, you start to appreciate meat, you you know all the flavors and whatever how savory it is

anyway guys that's some inspiring news my weight loss journey um but i also want to fill you guys in on a few things that are happening this week.

Tomorrow I don't stream, but at 2 p.m., I'm going to be going on a show hosted by a man named Jake Rattlesnake.

Now, you guys might know who that is, but he hosts Rattlesnake TV,

which is a YouTube podcast,

and he covered my appearance

on Tim Poole rather fairly

around the time in which I went on Tim Poole.

And so this is why

I'm going to be going on. And

you know, we're going to have a discussion.

For Robbie, what's going on?

I can't believe I missed you there.

That's important.

So that's going to be tomorrow at 2 p.m. Eastern Time.

Of course, I'm going to be giving you the link in the Discord, as I usually would.

But I'm letting you know ahead of time.

So you clear out your... I'm just kidding, you know, it's optional.

It's going to be on his channel.

Tune in or don't't it's up to you but if you're in that live chat i mean you can be

you can make an impression in that live chat you know but it is what it is guys i'm just gonna

not be there you know i'm saying be there but don't quit your job

over it but you get what i'm saying right we have some uh other things on the itinerary

where which we will cover after our discussion with Malumbo, long-awaited guest.

You were supposed to be here last week.

There were some scheduling issues.

Got it sorted, and now it's going to be now today in about like five or eight minutes or so it's on youtube rattlesnake tv at

youtube um there is a lot to talk about, actually, tonight specifically.

And I say tonight specifically because I'm not going to be repeating themes from the past, of course, but some things have come up, which we're going to need to address and talk about.

Important things.

After the interview with Malumbo of course there's some breaking news

Israel quote unquote has recently targeted Iran thank you so much say law have you heard of

Dr. Ray Pete take the the bio-energetic pill. It's

Tang Xiaoping theory applied to biology. Unleash metabolic forces. Yeah, I've actually been,

I'm not going to like say I've been on a Pete diet because I I'd be lying but his sugar advice I did take his sugar

advice and I'm having like fruit

I'm not fasting

full disclosure you know like let me burn in hell

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for the five, but, you know,

hold on, wall face.

What do you call a communist

sniper? A Marx man.

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give me a second.

Give me a second, because that was a knee-slapper.

That was a knee-slapper.

Thank you for the 10.

Guys, you know, I don't like Caleb caleb mopping i'm not a big fan of him but first i'm not laughing for that but uh don't don't bring his family into it. You know, come on.

Let's be a little more classy.

But I know who's sending these donations, you know?

I know who's sending these donations.

And all I'm going to say, all I'm going to say is not going to leak who it is.

But what I will say is, hmm, hmm, how would I put this? How would I put this how would i put this damn if i was in a survival situation this would be horrible

like what kind of coded message can i give uh huh let me think Let me think

All right, all right, all right

Got it. I know who it is

Because you tend to think fat people are crazy cokeheads you guys don't get it but the person knows who they are and i get it

so you know you just go running around with accusations about fat people being crazy coke heads

and that actually makes them scarier.

If you just see a...

Guys, if you see a giant fat guy

who's like 500 pounds,

sure, they're very majestic looking.

You know, very powerful.

But then if someone says, yeah, that guy's a crazy cokehead, that changes everything.

That changes.

If it's like an older guy, like an older gentleman, like 40 or 50 years old or something with a beard really, really fat.

And then someone points on, I was like,

you, that guy's a crazy cokehead and he's out to get you.

Then you've just created a far cry villain, you know?

You've just created a far cry villain.

You've just created a terrifying Cry building. You've just created a terrifying monster.

It's literally terrorism.

What do you call the ghost of Karl Marx appearing?

The Communist Manifestation.

Okay.

Okay.

Give me a second.

That's a knee slapper.

Thank you for the five.

Appreciate the five.

You know?

But isn't that true about the Cokehead thing?

I'm not talking about Paul Rogers.

Trust me, it has nothing to do with that.

And the Yankee tankie.

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Way too specific.

A tall fat guy.

Really tall.

Anyway, guys.

Let's get down to business.

And we're going to, I'm going to bring on our guest in a second.

But I have a slight headache because I've been drinking a lot of coffee every day it's something that's been boosting my

metabolism and allowing me to walk a lot

on the treadmill.

You know, if you guys want some weight loss tips, honestly, just like don't eat that much.

Eat a lot of protein.

Cut the carbs.

You don't really need bread in your diet at all, actually. You can have some rice.

You can have some fruit and vegetables. And just like walk on the treadmill like a lot, like three

miles every other day. And then every other day, one mile. Like one mile minimum, just walk on the treadmill or three miles.

And you'll, like, straight up, just lose a lot of weight, like, right away, right away.

Right.

That's my advice.

If you care.

You know, and honestly, I respect fat people in a certain way and i'm going to qualify this and

here's the thing right if you're above 30 and that's the only people it's justified for all right

if you're above 30

and you're a man.

You can be a female

who's really obese

after you're

like 35, right?

I am sexist about it.

But if you choose to be fat, that is not necessarily

illegitimate. Because you only live once

and the pleasures in life, I'm just talking about pure pleasures.

It's like a triangle distribution.

You know, like for a character creation, for like a skill tree, right?

And let's not be vulgar, but we all know what they are.

One of them is food.

Straight up, food.

Like, food is great.

Okay?

If you want to live your life just devoted to food, you actually can.

And not be that miserable. You know know and if you're ever feeling sad and just order some pizza what's you know it's not that bad of a life

the bad stuff comes from the health problems actually now the other thing is uh not very pg but it's something that we as human beings thank you so much wall facer what happens to radioactive snowmen? They melt down.

Hold on. Hold on.

Let me pause. Let me pause the whole

stream. Let me pause.

That's a knee slapper.

Thank you for the five, man.

I appreciate it.

The other thing,

it's too, like,

it's not PG,

you know,

I'm not going to mention it.

But,

like, everybody

wants it or likes it.

And young men are facing a crisis

where they just can't get any at all

right

they just can't get any

and that is something you can also be addicted to i guess and put all

your points in that but i actually feel like that one will be way more self-destructive

like instantly self-destructive like Like that one, you'll just die in like a year or something, getting a disease, or like worse, or you're like, you'll lose your mind. You'll like become psychotic. If you're just a fat dude who likes ice cream, you can last a long time just living that kind of life, right?

Now, finally, the third thing is drugs.

And, you know, drugs sounds horrible, but that's also alcohol. That's also pot. That's also whatever else,

you know, even tobacco. It can even be nicotine, right? And if you put all your points into drugs,

it's also a extremely destructive one. So actually actually being fat is the least destructive vice

you can have in terms of the only three things we can really get addicted to and like if we're

hedonists that is and i don't recommend being a hedonist.

But I don't recommend that, but if that's how you have to live your life to be happy, just be fat.

You know, that's my advice to you.

Don't do the other stuff. Don't do the other stuff. Don't do the drug.

You know, actually, I saw really, I'm going to bring Malambo on in a second. I hate to keep him waiting.

But I actually saw, I don't really check the infrared Reddit, but I'm going to do it right now.

Really quick, because I want to give someone, I want to commend someone for a really touching story that someone sent me, which I just found very...

I found it very moving, and, you know, if this person is not lying and they're actually serious

about

you know

about

the story that they're telling here

I really commend it actually

you know and I just wanted to share it with you guys

and no this is not a joke actually

this is serious I know you guys can't tell

sometimes because I'm really good at

I'm really good at like you know

joking around.

Give me a second.

Let me capture this.

Just really quick.

We're just going to...

We're going to...

Yeah.

All right.

Um...

Yeah. So, okay, I'm just going to summarize it for you.

Hello, everyone.

My name is Joshua.

I'm 19.

I made this post.

I started watching in early 2022.

I don't really engage with the community.

The past few streams have spoken to my soul.

This is quite embarrassing on my part, but I can't keep it any longer.

I've been an active viewer since watching my first stream, how the Democrats con you.

That's a YouTube stream.

I've never reached out to the community because between that time, up until around

2023, many of the streams I've been watching

were under the influence of alcohol, disassociatives, THC extracts, and something

called Delta 8. COVID was a dark period and these habits started forming and this is why the government permits them. So what changed? I believe that I've encountered the elusive string of truth as every firm believer in communism has.

I've replayed nearly every single infrared stream since the third shift job at an automotive

factory that makes air vents for luxury cars.

You know, I want people, I don't know why people have this idea that all my viewers are needs. When I think a minority of my viewers are needs, and I think, is it safe to say, I think at least a majority or a significant minority, like 40%

are blue collar workers

and tradesmen.

There's a lot of tradesmen and blue collar workers

that watch infrared, and I've noticed that.

Fortunately, they permit us to have one earbud while working stationary.

I've been listening to Marxist communist literature whenever I have free time at home while working out, but I still have a long ways to go.

This is actually a person in the working class who works at a factory and who uses their free time to learn about

communism and Marxism. And I am so honored to have helped inspire them to do that.

But let me continue.

But man, the other day I got home from work and listened to that stream and maybe ball my eyes out.

The mention of having a passive existence of consumption in order to keep us going describes

me and everyone I know.

But I'm done with that. Participating in this

era of humanity is something I would be proud of. Infrared collective and the messianic legacy

of communism has given me the strength to set myself on a better path.

The thought of where I'd be today had I never watched that first stream scares me.

Probably still on drugs, harder ones even.

And he said that he is going to join the discord and say hello and i expect you guys should welcome him he was too nervous and shy to say anything yeah welcome man you know um you should feel welcome and uh guys

i just wanted to share that story because

um

you know this is why i do what i do

that this is actually what motivates me to keep doing what I'm doing because I hear other

stories like that as well. And I know I'm somewhat of a comedian and a pretty brutal person,

I guess, comes to dealing with bad faith enemies and opponents, but at the end of the day, the message that I'm,

I don't want to say selling, but what I'm communicating is the same thing that motivates me to get up in the morning. It's what motivates me to

continue living. I'm a joker. I'm a comedian, but let's be honest, full disclosure, I would not have any purpose in life i would have no reason to continue living

if i didn't believe in what i believed in if i if my life was not devoted to this specific tradition and this specific way of making sense of the world

and of history and ultimately the meaningfulness of my life and for people struggling to find a place in doing that and I guess relating to that string of truth it's just thank you so much crass I appreciate you I uh it's my it And, uh, you know, reading stuff like that is actually what motivates me to

continue what I'm doing, you know? So I, uh, I definitely appreciate that gentleman sharing his story

and

you know

I wanted to share

with you guys as well

because

maybe you are

in a similar

situation

or you were

in a similar

situation

but

however many jokes I tell you know I'm dead serious actually about this like I'm dead serious about it it's not a joke in the grand scheme of things it's not a joke like I'm actually dead serious about this stuff and I'm not'm dead i'm actually dead serious about this stuff

and like yeah i'm actually serious about communism like with a capital c

no it's not a joke to me like that's not ironic like i'm actually serious about it like straight up yeah I'm

gonna catch bullets for Lenin straight up it's not a joke I'm telling you that with a

straight face that ain't a joke like I'm actually serious about this I stand on business for communism.

Like, yeah, I'm serious.

Marxism, Leninism, actually is the most advanced outlook attained by humanity.

And I fully disloat. and uh i fully devote my life you know to the to the revolutionary cause that it helps clarify and allows us to see before us and discover, you know?

And I mean it.

Like, yeah, I'm straight up dead serious about that.

Like, it ain't a joke, you know?

It ain't a joke.

Like, a lot of people think, like, am I doing a character? Am I like, yeah, I joke about a lot of people think like am i doing a character

am i like yeah i joke about a lot of

things i'm ironic or whatever about a lot

of things but like i'm telling you

straight up

communism is not a joke to me

like it's straight up isn't.

I've regarded myself as having

committed to devoting my life to it for,

I mean,

over a dozen years now, you know, like 13 years or something, like half of my life, more or less, half of the time I spent breathing.

And like I'm not a, I'm not a, I'm not a fundamentalist or whatever in the sense that I can't fathom the idea that people see it different than I do.

Like I can fathom that you see it different, right?

But this is what I believe.

And I'm not certain of the fact I can convince others.

And you know what?

There is a... And full disclosure, like, just so everyone knows.

Like, I do have a worm of doubt in my head that I might just straight up be a crazy person.

Like, yeah, I've thought about that.

I don't know for certain if I'm just a crazy person.

Like, I straight up don't.

But, you know, that's why my name is Haas Aldeen, you know, of the faith.

This is just faith.

I just have faith in it.

You know?

If you don't have that, what do you have?

There's nothing you can be certain of.

Anyone living their life for any purpose at all.

Are you certain that your purpose is the correct one?

Well, you don't have absolute certainty.

Maybe you are just crazy, but but it's like what's the alternative

you know lay down and die like a dog just rot away no no i'm a i choose to believe that's what it is i choose to

believe i choose to believe that's what it is i choose to believe i choose to believe right and it's not just belief

like the dots are there they're connected but um um But, you know, being a communist is a matter of integrity.

Now, once you educate yourself, once you actually know about it, you have two options.

You can surrender it because of the pressure that comes from power and popularity and wanting to fit in, or you can continue to stand on business because it's what you believe is true. But nobody

believes Marxism is incorrect because they've actually read Marxism and know about it. Thank you, Chris.

Appreciate you. It gets really good in the 40th year of being a communist. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure it does.

And, you know, communists nowadays are known

to be depressed and alcoholic or whatever

and miserable,

but

we're going to change the tie to that 100%.

Thank you so much, Syap.

I appreciate you.

Now, without any further ado, let me bring on Malumbo.

He's been waiting for 15 minutes, and we can't keep him waiting any longer.

Let me go ahead and get the zoom all set up i give me a

second guys i'm just going to start a meeting it's going to take two seconds i let me get this invite copy invite link all right so hopefully All right. So hopefully he's still here and didn't have to leave because I took too long. That'd be a big L on my part. But I just gave him the invite link, so let's wait. um all right i mean it's only fair that we're only fair that we have to wait a little bit because I made them wait too long.

Anyway, I guess I'm just going to continue what I was talking about.

Yeah, I don't know.

Like, I feel like a lot of people who are like, I'm going to devote my life to communism or this idea or that can't get over the fact that not everybody agrees with them.

And that's a source of anger for them and resentment.

So they're just like, you know, it's a sense of superiority they get over

others or it makes them feel like they could do anything they want and not have to take into

account, you know, basic human decency, because it's like a fundamentalist, like, you know, basic human decency, because it's like a fundamentalist.

Like, you know, if I'm doing this in the name of God, I can, anything is permitted.

And you notice we've had run-ins with a lot of religious LARPers, like gay liar

and his whole following

and like

those people are

fundamentalists

and fundamentalist

sounds based like

the Taliban but

that's not what it is

people who feel

like they can lie

because they have God on their side, right?

So how do they even have access to God?

All right.

He's here.

Yo, what up?

Can you hear me?

Yo, what's good, Haas? How you doing? How you doing, man? What what up? Can you hear me? Yo, what's good,

Haas?

How you doing?

How you doing, man?

What's up?

I'm doing good.

I'm doing good.

Finally excited.

Finally excited to get a chance to talk to you, my man.

I thought you were ducking me for a little bit.

No, no.

So we actually came across you from Jubilee when you were on with Eddie, and we were really impressed by the things you said.

And I got to ask before anything, like, did you know about infrared or Midwestern Marks before Jubilee or?

I knew about Eddie just because of our similar content we crossed past just because of the algorithm.

But no, I had

no idea about infrared up until

the video actually dropped and

the fan bases and they're trying once again to

mention your guys this beloved podcast.

Yeah, so you on TikTok basically?

TikTok. I have a presence everywhere, but you on TikTok, basically? TikTok.

I have a presence everywhere, but yeah, TikTok pretty much the biggest fashion.

Yeah, we'll make sure to shout you out or whenever you want, you know, so people can find you.

And I appreciate you coming on.

And, you know, I think maybe to start, but we can pretty much go any topic you feel like.

You know, one of the things we were impressed by is the way you were defending communism and socialism on jubilee was the way you formulated that in terms of like

what's best for america was best for the american people and like use the p word like patriotism right

and i don't know if you know this but it's like kind of controversial around the space because people say that when we make arguments like that, even though they're effective to convince people who are not one over to our side, that it's like, you know, it's chauvinistic and it's

inherently, you know, it's like you're selling out or something. What do you think about that?

Because we, you know, we saw you say that and we were like, wow, this guy's actually really based.

And the fact that you haven't heard

of infrared and you only tangentially knew about Midwestern Rocks, you're kind of like outside of that

discourse, it seems like, but you arrived at that position anyway because it's just like, I guess,

what made sense to you is pretty like like uh interesting you know uh no uh it's nail on the head i

how did i come to the same understanding uh i graduated with the sociology ethnic studies degree from

the university of colorado boulder the University of Colorado, Boulder.

I have master's degrees in legal studies.

And I say that to kind of give like an idea of like the platform I come from.

I really understand people.

I enjoy the understanding of social interactions.

And that's why I feel like the Marxist

materialist thought just came so easy

to me because everything Marx was

slowing out was sociologist was

well, yeah, was that

political science, but was that sociology as well

intertime of day. It was very much the study of human beings

to human behaviors intertime of that study.

And using, really looking, using

that lens to understand the material conditions

of American culture of American society today.

Like, what is American culture?

And I

cynically say

narcissism.

And I

and it's, but you,

but there is some validity to it. You go to Washington,

D.C. and they deify

George Washington as if he is Jesus Christ.

There is, it's not just our history books. Every facets of American culture is taught to give you

this chip on your shoulder. Even if you are one of these marginalized groups, at least you're

an American. If you're black, at least you're an American. If you're

a black, at least you're a black American.

Like it's, it's

intertwined in every facet of the American

being. So if you were going to be talked about

communism, we have to talk

to Americans in the language that they've been

fed to since they're

since they're a child we can't

have this

unfortunately we don't have the benefit of

rugged

of a rugged holistic culture that

Lenin had during the Russian

revolution, we don't, we don't have

the Confucianist culture that the

Chinese had during their Chinese

revolution to find and kind of have that

solidarity point. That's how they're able to interpret

all the science. Like they had a, they had a

culture base

to understand these messages. So

what is the, what is the culture of base? I'm sure

there's an actual, like, simply word

and I'm trying to define here, but the culture

base for Americans to understand

communism. Well, I say it is

okay,

if communism's the future,

then that communism better be an American one.

I think that would resonate a lot more

with Americans to get them a lot,

a lot more, a lot more,

a lot more, a lot more,

a lot more on the train ride ride if you know what I'm saying

you know I find it incredible that it's like you're outside of this like discourse of like

leftist jibber jabbering and then you managed to actually arrive at like the the specifically correct

Marxism like that what you're saying is actually like what Marxism is actually all about it. It is all

about understanding the material

conditions you live in and leveling with the people's

consciousness where it is.

I also like how you mentioned, like,

in contrast to Russia and China,

we don't have a sense of like an intuitive,

unconscious

thing that unites all of us, right?

It's always so overt, like you mentioned.

Like it has to be, we have to directly pledge allegiance to the flag, literally, right?

Because if we don't pledge allegiance to the flag, like we don't have the confidence of, okay, we're still part of a shared history and culture.

Because, like, you know, in Russia and China and Lenin's time or Mao's time, everyone understood what China was.

Like, nobody needed to pledge allegiance to any flag.

Like, China's China, Russia's Russia. needed to pledge allegiance to any flag. Like,

China's China,

Russia's Russia.

It's very clear,

like,

what unites everyone

and what shared history

they have.

And we,

we are lacking that.

And,

you know,

it's like you understand

that Americans,

if you are interested in building any kind of communist movement in this country, you have to know where you are. You're not, you can't just larp and pretend like you're doing everything that Lenin or Mao was doing

and you can just like neglect

these basic realities

but it's like you know these

leftists I call them Pan

leftists actually because like

they're not really like specifically

Marxists they're just really like specifically Marxist.

They're just like tangentially, you know, sympathetic to it, I guess.

They claim to be.

But they're like they try to, they're trying to make it seem like we are revisionists

who are violating Marxism by knowing how to talk to people. And you know, I don't correct me if I'm

wrong, but it seems like your way of putting things probably also comes from the experience you have

actually talking to people and like learning like what actually works when it comes to like what is necessary

to like get through to people or what would you think no you're that's a hundred percent

nail on the head um i grew up as a conglies american in colorado uh i so yeah i grew up with this idea of is American in Colorado.

So,

I grew up with this idea of rugged capitalism,

rugged individualism being,

you know, bootstraps

all the way to success, that type

of deal. But, you know, dealing

with the actual real idea

that I was a lower class

black individual

and all these,

I'm doing all the right things.

I'm studying.

I'm getting to honors programs,

but that doesn't stop the real fact

that when I go home,

how come my, you know, how come

my mom's always tired from today? How come

we don't have as much food

in the table? I, my little sister just got

scotch, like these things aren't connecting. And so

you bring these up into schools.

And the length, there always seems to be this loss in translation moment where you realize people don't, you're not properly even taught what being poor is in America.

When I was, when you're being taught what poor is, you think that's somebody who is a drug dealer.

You think that's somebody

who doesn't take care

of their kids. My mom took care of us very well.

Like we should push us to go to school.

If we had in free time, we were in the library.

So these things were adding up.

And then

what kind of happens

is once I entered

college and finally got that critical thinking

finally I actually understood sociology,

I realized through that

loss of translation moment, you just have to find a way

to just talk to these people. I'm like, okay, if you really

don't understand what being poor is, what is the common factor that we can talk about. I think education is a big

factor into getting people to get more and more class conscious. So in order for me to pursue the goal of getting people are class conscious,

I have to find the equal playing field of talk to you about education because what kind of

American doesn't care about education? What kind of American doesn't care about wanting their kids

to be educated? And then you could broach that conversation to other factors.

I'm like, I'm like, damn, we have all this education.

But why are they making it so hard for you to get to work, get to school?

Then you can, you could branch that coverage to the public transportation.

It's just really just because there's certain conversations.

You just realize it's, it's, it's just like you, because there's certain conversations you just realize

it's, it's, it's just like you said, it's

what's more worth it,

the war or the battle?

And the material's

analysis of it, it's like, you can see that

every focal point in history,

was Lenis a revisionist by needing by robbing a bank?

Was Lenin a revisionist by getting funding by, with getting funding by a multimillionaire communists in Britain?

It's looking at them to kill killed dishes, what is possible.

And what is possible is that I have to talk to an American, like I see him as a fellow

American.

I think too many people get caught up in the idea that people's racial vitro is so

viscous enough that they

wouldn't, that they wouldn't be willing to

work with you. I was surrounded by

racist at all times. Especially

when I was a kid, the first slurs I heard was growing

up in Colorado.

But at the end of the day, not

saying that's bad racism is very real

racism is this real

racism is real

as breathing it was bringing air

but like I said

people's racial

vitro

the idea that people's racial

vitro is so viscous

enough that we aren't willing

to work together

like there are plenty of races that I have worked with at my job.

At the end of the day, they need to pay rent.

And if I could talk in the equal playing field of rent,

I promise you that works every single time.

That's how the,

I think the idea that we can't work together is a myth.

That's it.

You know, it's incredible because it's like, you really do have a prolet I think the idea that we can't work together is a myth. That's it.

You know, it's incredible because it's like you really do have a proletarian consciousness.

I can tell.

And the reason I can tell is because what you're basically saying, at any point you can correct me if I'm wrong.

But it's like, you know, a lot of people begin with the assumption that we have the benefit or the privilege, I should rather say, of not having to actually win the

masses and just like isolating ourselves from them and then like, okay, we're right and they're wrong.

We're going to create like our discourse island where we're just correct. And, you know, all these other people

are racist or problematic or whatever, like to hell with them, right? Whereas like a proletarian

consciousness says, like, we are nothing without the masses. I mean, if we're calling ourselves

communists, it's like what Mao said, we have to swim among the masses like fish in the sea,

like fish in water. We don't have the privilege to, like, you know, erect a barrier between us

and them to the point where we could be like, yeah, you know,

we can, we have the privilege as just being like an educated Marxist minority. And if like people

don't agree with us, it's just because they're stupid and I'm smart. It's like, no, a minute you

call yourself a communist, even if you don't have

time to actually go down to the masses and like do the work, it's like, in terms of your mentality,

you can't write people off as masses entirely because they're problematic. Those are your people. Those are the people like this is the country you live in

You may not like the way it is I don't you don't no one does here right who's watching this

But this is still our country this is we, we don't have, like,

the privilege of some other kind of refuge.

And I kind of feel like,

it's almost like Marxists have this, like, Zionist mentality of some kind.

Like,

I just go to Israel or something.

Like,

I just,

like, abandon ship.

And like,

I,

well,

you know, most people can't, I just, like, abandoned ship. And, like, I, well, you know,

most people can't,

you know? So it's like,

yeah, what do you, what do you think?

No, uh,

I, uh,

I, uh, I feel like I've heard that's, with this like so many off it's it's the go to argument

if you don't like it just go to just go to the different country just go live there I'm like

okay are you going to fund this or with what with with the capitalist money that you have as well

right yeah I mean people don't even know this,

but like I was in Moscow.

I'm saying this like a girl who just got back from Paris

and can't shut up about it.

Because like, but for real, like, I was there.

And to be real, everyone's like,

yo, why don't you just go live in Russia? everyone's like,

yo,

why don't you just go live in Russia?

I'm like,

well,

you know what?

If I didn't care

about communism,

I didn't care about like

the sense of duty

that I have politically,

in terms of just like,

what would make me happier personally?

I was straight up go live in Moscow.

I would take that over anywhere in America any day of the week.

Like, I would be way more happy living there.

I would get along with people better.

I would just like, I would just be more at home in terms of the like the the the the the urban setting

the the metro system that it had like if I if you if you want to actually have me go live in

Moscow um that's not that's actually like a benefit to me that's actually like a benefit to me.

That's not like a punishment against me, right?

The punishment is me staying here and fighting here because, because like I go to Russia.

They don't need me over there.

Like I would basically be like mooching off of them.

Like, oh, can I let me go to Russia and like be one of you.

And it's like, well, why?

You grew up in America.

Everything you know is American.

You know, America is your problem, right?

And it's true, actually.

So, no, it's funny.

You know, one of the first things people told me when I was like a kid, I guess,

like I was a teenager, they were like, well, you can always just go live in Cuba and just like go living and I'm like it's it's kind of

interesting because it's like okay on the one hand there's like this patriotism supposedly then on

the other hand it's like this idea that countries are just like commodities and it's just like a preference like

oh yeah just go live in the country you prefer to rather than the one you're obligated to like

improve or whatever that really just goes to that really reveals somebody's a class and they're able to just throw an idea like that.

Like, oh, you can't just, you can't just summer somewhere?

You just can't leave?

That's crazy.

That's literally insane.

It's $3,000 alone to go to the Congo.

Yeah, no, I know.

It's crazy.

Like, just flying to the other side of the world,

thousands of dollars.

It's like, for some people, that's like,

that's more than they make in like several months,

you know?

But I don't know.

It's just the, you got to think about it rationally, right?

Because everyone in this country is in debt.

A lot of people are increasingly poor living in poverty. Most people are too proud to admit it. I think, what do you think about this? This is something I might ask you. Like for the majority of people who actually are in poverty, I kind of get the sense that the majority

of them are too proud

to admit it and are straight up

not willing to disclose that

on any level. But like

because it's like people are living in denial, you know?

Yeah, I firmly have to take that like 80%.

I consider about almost, if you're not the job creator, quote, unquote,

I consider you one of the poor classes of Americans.

You are working class.

I think a lot more Americans are more willing to call themselves working class than

four for sure.

Yeah.

100%.

No, but it's just like, I think one of the reasons people might be hesitant is because

the amount of debt that they have people in is insurmountable. There's no

rational way it can be paid off. And people kind of feel like it's their fault. And like they got

themselves into this mess and there's no way getting out of it so like by talking about it you're like acknowledging the impossible situation you're in i feel like most americans so take into account their debt as their network that's true actually they think they're like Donald Trump

was like exactly they think they're the nation

they know well America owes

trillions of dollars I owe like 400 bucks

I'm swimming you know yeah they're not

they haven't been taught to think

that is like a real

punishment it's a it's a punishment because they constantly got to pay

interest if it was just debt with no interest like yeah who cares right but interest is is an

extra form of rent we pay like in addition to rent to have a roof over your head in addition to paying the bills in addition to rent, to have a roof over your head, in addition to paying the bills, in addition to paying for the internet, in addition to paying, you know, for your groceries and like all these other expenses monthly, your insurance, and your mortgage,

you know,

your car mortgage or whatever.

You also have to pay this extra rent,

which is just like filed under the general category of like,

you know,

like that episode of SpongeBob where it's like Mr.

Crabs is charging people for

breathing and shit he's like

breathing, existing,

living, like that's what dead is.

You know, it's like being charged in.

Yeah.

It's like you're being charged just for like the general fact that you exist and you have to take out loans to like make a to literally like afford to continue living you know no that's well

people have to pay deaths

like Destiny

I sent over this league

Destiny had to

have to pay some debts

$8,000 per

let me read the full tweet

from a let's see

a host versus shrews

Is he trolling it?

Because I saw something like that

Where he was like

He was like saying that like he has all these people

DMing him and stuff

But then he was everyone was like no, it's just a troll

Of course.

Ever since I started the Israel.

I'm playing it right now.

I've gotten so many connections.

I've gotten like new payment processes. I don't know.

He might be trolling there, but like, it also could be like low key low-key, like, telling the truth by joking about it, if you know what I mean? Like, oh, yeah, I'm just trolling, but actually it's true.

Is that a tactic? Is that a tactic? Yeah. It could. I mean, I know for a fact he definitely gets fed talking points. Like 1,000% he does.

For sure.

Yeah. He, and, you know, I actually think it's probably likely that he is working with like some kind of like

Israel

Siyop whatever

I don't know what they would be called

whether informed

What's Hosbara?

What's Hosbara?

Am I am I am I

Yeah Hosbrah is basically like the, the PR department of like Israel, like the Zionist

density. Like whenever like, you know, they need to like counteract a narrative or spread

a narrative or like get their message across it's like damage control basically okay so so forgive the dyslexia for

a for a minute i was looking at hasbro oh yeah yeah no it's called Hasbara, something like that,

Hasbara.

The Hasbrook confession.

I was like, honestly, with the amount of Israeli, sorry,

with the Israeli allegiances that popped up in terms of media.

Sarah Silverman, Jerry Seinfeld.

Oh, yeah. Okay. I'm saying names that

aren't too surprising. So forgive if anybody's probably

laughing at me right now.

But it's just, it's

it's, it's, is Amy Schumer still a thing i yeah last time i heard of her was from

2016 oh man oh but no i mean yeah a lot of these hollywood people a lot of them low-key are

just coming out for israel um yeah a lot of celebrities are-key are just coming out for Israel.

Yeah, a lot of celebrities are, even some music.

You know that guy in Dune, too?

Still haven't watched it yet.

Timothy Chalame?

He came out for Israel, too, did he not?

Shut up.

Timothy Salome?

I think he did, yeah.

And then he, I think he had to backtrack it or something,

but I'm pretty sure he did,

yeah.

That's not why I haven't watched it yet, but.

Because I thought he was

with Callie Jenner, and I thought

I thought Callie Jenner was, thought I thought Cudel Bella Hadid

I'm literally making stuff up

this is how rumor to start

I got no idea

but

no I mean Hasbro

you could tell when stuff is fake and it's like a sci-op. And like, you know, destiny likes to be a contrarian. Just like take the opposing side of like what's correct. Uh, just for like the devil's advocate. Like ego or whatever. But no, I think it's, you know, you know, it's,

it's interesting because, like, he actually accused me of taking money from Russia, like, well

before, that was actually a plausible thesis

like I'm not saying

it's true it's actually not true like

believe it or not I haven't taken a dime from

Russia right I went to Moscow

a month ago

and I met

a lot of people but like I have not gotten paid anything, right?

I made connections and stuff, but still paid nothing by them.

But this was in 2022 when, like, there would be no reason to believe that like i i didn't even have any major russian

connections at all like friends or whatever and he said he straight up told his stream like yeah he

takes russian money so that's yeah that's kind of crazy uh it's crazy how quickly the russian agent the the the the russian

agency uh pointing figures got flipped onto the leftist side.

I feel like it's

no, it's crazy how quickly things just keep

getting flipped. One new idea

of pops, boom, like, Tanky

used to be like a word of endearment other

leftists would like, would joking call

other leftists, then liberals and right wing people

got tanky and it became like a genuine insult i'm like damn like it honestly feels like being black

twice my man we can't have shit we can't we can't we can't we can't have shit on both sides. It's crazy.

I mean,

but I said,

no originality.

I said this before,

but it's like,

what a great term,

though,

because it's like,

you know what?

If you want to summarize my politics as like,

yeah,

um,

it's got to have a tank.

It's like straight up.

It's like straight up.

But you want to talk about socialism?

You want to talk about communism, whatever.

We need a tank, man.

You don't get that by itself.

That's not you need a fortress. You want to talk about national itself. That's not... You need a fortress.

You want to talk about

national liberation?

That's a tank, dude.

It's like that meme.

You ever seen that meme

where they're like...

What was it?

Like, why'd you invade Iraq?

Because they had weapons of mass destruction. And then they're like, all right, so did you invade Iraq? Because they had weapons of mass destruction.

And then they're like, all right, so why not invade North Korea?

And then the U.S. is like, oh, because they actually have weapons of mass destruction.

You know, it's kind of like that, you know.

You know what?

That reminds me, one of the famous things that the administration before Mandela did before they left was they did.

Yeah, they took the news.

Right.

So there's no country.

There's no country in the continent of Africa with nouts.

No wonder they're just plundering.

See, people,

people need to realize that,

like,

you could straight up just build nukes and get away with it.

Because the minute you build,

the minute you build them,

like,

you can be,

you can be sanctioned.

And, you know, at this point, I've been following what's going on in the Sahel.

And, you know, because of France's aggressive posturing, I straight up advocate for

the newly liberated countries in the

Sahel to actually like straight up start building

nuclear weapons.

This is the perfect time to do it

and they can get away with it.

Niger has so much uranium that actually

possible. Niger should straight up just do it

What are they going to do sanction you?

It's like

That

That means nothing

What do sanctions

What do sanctions even mean in the grand scale of things

When you really look into a long-term

sense of the situation when your country is starving when your people are tired of being treated like

this for the past 30 40 years even after a supposed decolonization and the only bread of hope

you've ever been given is the Belt of Road initiative by China.

But then you're getting told by these Western powers,

hey, we think you're working for China and Russia.

So you should just stop doing that and go back to the 30, 40 years

of just being poor and being shitted upon.

Of course they're going to think, oh,

the deal's up.

The racketeering is up. When you see little

when you see little Nigerian children

throwing rocks at drones now,

the children know. The children know. They understand

that this is a foreign power

that does not belong here and what's that sort of thought is held on to the people it's over if

you don't have the people if you don't have the masses appeal i think that's something a lot of

americans constantly seem to forget and i don't blame that we are so often

fed this idea that one FBI agent or one soldier is like fighting all of America is fighting a whole

nation. But it's just like, no, it's just the people. It's just massive appeal. They just got us,

they got us starting young and just we just have to do

idea we have popular ideas you just have to keep talking these popular ideas and milamoree let's go yeah yeah

i mean like no yeah i just mentioned like everyone's in debt everyone our positions there's no reason it shouldn't be popular it is a

winning message but then you think to yourself and it's like well it can't be that easy and it's not

because what they do is they fill our ranks our ranks quote unquote with a bunch of like

bad faith actors

who do everything they can to make our message

as unpopular as possible.

Like as unpopular as and as antisocial as pop as possible,

just like unrelatable to people, you know?

I think my hot take is that this is really, we're really in the finding moment in American

history and an American thought process where these ideas are popular.

They're in the popular consciousness.

Like the conversation are having or the conversations are popular.

Somebody like,

something like infrared,

something like Midwestern Mark,

something like even like a Hassanabe sounds so foreign and alien to me just growing up in the 90s.

Like I was born in 19.

I was born in 1995 and I still very much remember.

You know?

And like we're still young enough to remember just

what a Bush era

America was like. Even the Obama

election cycle, there's nothing

been even remotely close

to that. We lived in a completely different

America in terms of culture and phases,

and I feel like that should be a great example of how quickly ideas can change.

What did Lenin say weeks could turn to days or something like that?

It could be for the positive and in a way for the negative,

because if you see how everyone's flip-flopping,

like left is becoming right, a lot of right is becoming left it seems like with foreign policy it's like um you know the you you had people that

are like supposedly left is now becoming like NATO propagandists

straight up like saying like yeah

you know the US multi unipolar world order is actually good

and it needs to be maintained at all costs or like

or even worse,

they're just like, well, you know,

it's not necessarily that it's good,

but multipolarity is just imperialism,

but with other countries.

And it's like,

it,

this is villain talk.

It's so crazy.

Unipolar.

World,

world domination.

That's straight up. Yeah. Yeah. That's so crazy. Unipolar. World domination. That's straight up. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, it's hilarious.

Yeah, but it's like it's it's like we

straight up are a world police

who claim we have the

right to dominate the world.

But nowhere is this like

sanctioned legally or like

it's not even sanctioned in the

constitution we have

it's just straight up something that we have

because if you dissent

against it you're a Russian agent and no one

wants to be that right so we better

keep our mouth shut what's wrong with being a russian agent you're such an intelligent person

you went to school you know russian yeah i mean no no i understand the concern i understand the concern people people want to be liked and i think that's

um that's one of the biggest barriers of i i think coming into this coming into this conscious like

part of like critical thinking people find it scary to question what they deem to be the correct way of thinking about

things.

But maybe I'm a half-classful person.

I feel like we're steadily getting closer and closer where social media, social media and socialism, it's no pun intended.

There's something there.

No, yeah, yeah, no, straight up.

Straight up.

I mean, it's all about the institutions like Gromsky was talking about, but he wasn't alive for the internet and social media.

And he couldn't, and social media is what's driving, like, actually a lot of the political change we're seeing because, like, the mainstream media and the institutions can't keep up with it but um but

they're trying now obviously but uh you know it's kind of off topic a little bit going back to

where you where you came from which is colorado um i always had this thesis,

sorry, that

Communism America is going to be built

in the Rocky Mountain area.

Like that whole giant

sparsely populated area

out west, like right

before California, but like after the Midwest. So in your experience,

what, how would you appraise the climate, not like literally, but like the social climate in

Colorado in terms of like the ideas, the level of consciousness

people are at.

Oh, wow.

Okay, not to, let me think about this a bit.

Let me think about this.

I mean, feel free to burst my bubble about the hypothesis.

No,

no,

it's an interesting question.

I've thought about this a lot.

I feel like we've all had our millions scenarios of how it would go down.

And weirdly enough,

I would have to agree with you.

I do very much believe

that a lot of Coloradoans

have a degree of class consciousness.

There is an idea of labor solidarity

in the average Colorado.

Like, strikes are always praised.

Like, it's's there's there's there's a good idea of labor solidarity in Colorado but I do very much to believe they do fall into

traffic the temporary various millionaires when to get a little bit closer to the cities

but out in the rural areas like things things like that are now and are definitely praised.

It's like, it's like people like Richard Ojetta, I, shout out to Richard Ojetta.

I used to work with him.

Oh, wait, wait, no way.

You used to see, in 2017 when he was running, group what's now called the infrared collective we were following that very closely and we were like you know this might be something this might have um but you actually worked with him. Wow.

Yeah, yeah.

He's a good guy. He was in West Virginia, wasn't he?

West Virginia.

Yeah.

I was helping with his, I was helping with, I was social media manager for a couple months.

Right before, right along when he was working alongside

TYT but really

just helping in terms of like

of course the presidential campaign didn't do well

so really just

helping him push other candidates

that he would be able to

lend his voice and his notoriety to their campaigns and whatnot.

It was a good time.

I'm glad to I've worked with him because it felt very similar to Colorado, for example.

But how would I see it go down is

I very much think

that

in Jared Poles' introduction to Colorado

politics is a big game changer.

I think it's really just

it's put Colorado

into a fast track of just a lot more

leftward politics. They've decriminalized

almost every single drug except for cocaine.

They've,

in terms of the homeless crisis,

they're not falling prey to the militar rights rhetoric that's coming out of California.

It seems like the temporary home talk is actually what's being pushed a lot more than just more criminalization of what it is,

what is essentially a class crisis is happening right now.

I think Colorado is ready.

I think if I could see it happening in America, I also agree that it would be Washington, it would be Washington, Oregon, Colorado that would make up the bulk of what we'd see as like true like like leftist up uprisings. When I say uprisings, actually, I think it would be more of an economic alliance.

I think what's happening economically in Colorado has a lot more positive outcomes.

And what will happen is that the not so positive outcomes are happening in the South will require certain states to make political treaties or political agreements sorry economic agreements uh where they could benefits each other's trades or benefits each other's culturally uh tourism and whatnot i also think that's how that's how I see it happening.

I also have an impression that it's just a less consolidated area in general compared to

elsewhere.

You know, you look at you get you look at the east coast obviously and like that's that's captured territory politically like it's

very well defined the midwest same thing very well defined politically the south as well you know

even even trump when his idea of a quantum leap you know i don't know if you heard that

but the idea is like building cities out there where i just mentioned you know around the rockies

and it's just like within american consciousness it's kind of like uh... It's not a very...

I don't think it's a fully tamed area, if that makes sense.

I think there's a lot of...

Oh, you know what I'm saying?

It's like...

Yeah, you're saying, okay,

is Colorado being the Wild Wild West a factor

and it being like having more solidarity?

I feel like it has more an effect on its level of like social consciousness.

Because I feel like in a big Colorado is kind of backwards, not backwards, but just a little behind.

Because when things happen in America, when things happen in this nation, you feel it in

LA.

You feel it in New York City.

And then it's like there's a lag there.

Yeah.

No, you're right.

There's a huge lag.

I don't know if that would have an effect.

I feel like it has the worst effect where a lot more right-wing stuff,

it takes a bit longer to get the real truth of things.

Things are a little bit delayed.

I feel like I was fighting my own battle here

where I was one of more

informed people, more foreign

political commentators coming out of Colorado

where I was the

I was the leftist

voice in Colorado for

to this day.

But to be fair they weren't getting any other news. To be fair, for, to this day.

But to be fair.

They weren't getting any other news.

To be fair, though, you know,

where else was lagging behind was Russia, you know,

when China compared to Western Europe.

So sometimes that's actually a benefit because some of the more false, let's call false consciousness or erroneous pathways of leftist politics of like compromising and like selling out and stuff like that hasn't fully taken root and there's like a window of opportunity for something totally brand new

that's actually super fire that's actually a good observation i didn't really think about like that

making that comparison with Western Europe and Russia

very valid. I do see

the validity also

in terms of if it would happen

a successful uprising would

or just a successful movement.

I got to stop saying uprising. I'm going to

give myself, I'm going to get myself

well, I mean, to cut you up, there

is a movie coming out.

Civil War.

Yeah, yeah. That looks awful.

Did you see, I got to find this article.

I got to find this article from the director, but he did

a both sides thing. He was saying,

the left and right are both a problem when I'm portraying in this movie is that it's less about,

it's, it's less about what they're talking about and more about they're doing it in the wrong way.

I'm like, I couldn't have rolled my eyes hard.

But you know what?

I still want to see that movie

because I just

I got to see money.

I got to see it.

I got to see like the Americans

because I feel like it's going to happen, you know.

Let's let's, I'll bootleg it and we can watch it together.

Yeah, don't give them, yeah, don't give them money, just.

Yeah.

When does it come out, by the way?

I think it should be out right or um is it may actually

who comes out uh it comes it looks like it comes out uh april 11th oh shit okay wow all right yeah i but Oh, shit. Okay. Wow. All right. Yeah.

I, but no, it's, I do think with, because there is, I forget who said it, but there's this old allege adage that America became a superpower as soon as it took over the West.

As soon as I had that huge planes of farming, of rich fertile soil, America was indeed a superpower.

So if there was a large, a large successful movement, they would

have control of all the farming

centers. And there's another

factor.

Yeah, yeah, there's another factor

too, which is one of the

ways class struggle was always

dealt with was land speculation, like the like oh guys just go out west take up some land steal it from the indians and just like that'll be how i settle like i'll be fine right and then once that frontier was closed it's like there was no valve to release the pressures

of class struggle and working people actually started pointing their guns back toward the ruling

class like all right we got to we got to take what's ours and then that's why we had the new deal

and you know the kind of more or less welfare measures and the cold war and whatnot but you know

that's that's where the frontier is enclosed in a way and I just think it's so some it's important

symbolically but you know I wanted to mention about that movie actually because I saw a map

on X like on Twitter whatever and it was like so apparently this is how it is.

The Midwest is the Republicans.

The Midwest and the South and the East Coast are Republican territory.

For some reason, Texas and California are like the liberal territory.

And then for some reason, and I

have my Rocky Mountain thesis formulated

like a year ago, so I'm not stealing it

from the movie. But for some

reason in the

top

the the North Western the top the north-western part of the country

including like Colorado and stuff

it's occupied by a group called like the new

people's army which sounds very left wing to me but I don't know if that's what it means. But you know what I'm saying? Like I feel like it's like some like Maoist group or I don't know some new people's army. And I saw that map and I was like, what the hell? The prophecy's

coming true. Like, this guy is also

thinking something's going to come

from this place, but

Dude, I think that's

awesome. I still, I

if I had to, if I, if we're doing world building like Civil War American world building,

five different factions sounds about right.

Because I feel like there's a common thing that we're not going to.

No, not.

No, not five.

There's going to be 50.

You know, there's going to be 50.

You think a 50?

A hundred.

Listen.

My...

A new Europe.

See, my parents didn't really live through the Civil War in Lebanon.

My parents' parents did.

And that's why they left.

It was a contributing factor.

It was complicated.

My grandparent was actually on the Israeli kill list.

And straight up was like, all right, I'm either going to get killed or I can go litigate my rights in the belly of the beast, right?

My actual parents were like really, really super young.

They were like five years old.

But passed down, and from like what I read up and from what they told me and how i understand even how it is today it's

like when civil wars happen in the modern age it's not like two factions fighting you know it's not

going to be like the american civil war it's like law and order breaks down and like more, more or less, warlords basically, like, start taking over, replacing that function of law and order and feuding. It's like feudalism, like feuding with others because of the nature of the power structure isn't fully resolved.

And there's like blood feuds and there's gang warfare.

And there's like there's also political fighting as well.

It's a huge factor.

So I kind of feel like what's going to happen is that there's going to be like one

hegemony that's like

NATO, the

remnants of like the deep state

like that's going to try to reassert order and there's going to be

like 50 other factions

that are like basking in the chaos more or less

you're valid though because that is that was essentially the point of the long march by now was to

right yeah all these rival all these rival warlords and various vaccines to get

under his communist flag.

I very much see

I very much see that happening in the same

vein. 50 is a lot.

I do think that there's

we still, Americans love their

great man theory

I do think celebrity cultural

has some sort of influencer

every influencer will have their own army

like there's going to be

there's going to be people

there's going to be people

live streaming like

battles and executions

and shit and like God forbid

the Hassan Avi army

holy shit God forbid

God forbid the

the the

proud boys

the proud boys are a perfect example

yeah that's already happening right? Oh my God yeah with the proud boys. The proud boys are a perfect example.

Yeah,

that's already happening,

right?

Oh my God.

Yeah. I mean,

um,

no,

but I,

I, I think a lot of,

like,

I see a lot of American conservative scoffing at like Haiti.

Look how backward Haiti is because there's like all this violence and gang warfare, which I don't know if you're up to date on what's going on there.

Last thing I saw was the prison breakout.

There's been a lot of fake news spread, but more or less a U.S. puppet government was overthrown due their deep popularity.

There's a guy named Barbecue is being demonized in the media as like an evil criminal or something

but he's actually

like

uniting all the

gangs to form a new

government

and to put an end

to the kidnappings

and the crime

and like

pretty popular

um it's actually funny because a streamer,

who's big on this website kick that we're on right now,

he actually went to Haiti,

just to like, you know, do extreme prank, I guess.

I don't know. and he got kidnapped by one of the gangs

so one of the people who i met briefly on x dan cohen he's a journalist who actually actually interviewed Barbecue and some of the leaders in Haiti, he called up Barbecue and he's like, yo, tell this gang to let this guy go because like, you know, it's a violation of your treaty with him. And Barbecue, barbecue like didn't even know what happened.

He was like, oh yeah, for sure.

Like forced him to release him.

And like,

uh,

no,

but I'm kind of babbling.

But I'm trying to say about Haiti is that.

No,

that shit was crazy.

I was like,

damn,

first off,

his name was barbecue.

Yeah. To this. No, that shit was crazy. I was like, damn, first off, this name was barbecue. Yeah.

To this.

No, no, I was in the story.

I was like, whoa, this is crazy.

No, shout's up to Haiti, but go on.

Yeah, man, a lot of conservatives are like scoffing.

Man, I'm like, you know, I feel like that's the future of this country.

Like, I feel like that type of like chaos and breakdown of law and order probably will happen here because people don't have confidence in the institutions anymore.

And that's really all it takes for everything to break down.

Like, it doesn't take everyone picking up

a gun and, like, overthrowing

the government. It takes people

no longer respecting the

institutions of, like, power

anymore. And, like, once that happens,

it's all, it's, it's over, you know?

And then... I'm reading up on... Oh, sorry, gone. Yeah, I mean, it's all, it's over, you know. I'm reading up on, oh, sorry, go on.

Yeah, I mean, there's already parts of America now where that is the case.

Like there's parts of America where police just don't go anymore, right?

There's parts of America that are like, de facto controlled by gangs and they're

controlled by like other groups and

I think that will happen on a much

widespread more

sorry on a larger scale probably

involving a lot more kinds of factions and sorry, on a larger scale probably involving

a lot more kinds of factions

and we'll probably stop calling them gangs

we'll probably just say like these are warlords

right? Like there's going to be like

yeah there's going to be like a

liberal warlord. There's going to be like

you know

you just mentioned the proud boy going to be like a liberal warlord. There's going to be like, you know,

um,

you just mentioned the proud boys.

There's going to be stuff like that.

There's going to be, uh,

neo-Nazis and like,

neo-clan,

I don't know what they,

what they would call themselves.

White Nationalists, you know, you ever see that that photo of that white nationalist recently where they were like in Tampa and they're like that guy was like bald and like covered in tattoos

and he's like doing the Hitler salute

it literally looks like a terrifying monster

I feel like I've seen that picture

in so many different occasions

which is describing

no this one's a little more recent

and I'm like wow that's going to happen

here like that dude

is a Nazi salute come on that dude's going to happen here like that dude is a Nazi salute

come on that dude's going to start eating

people 100% we're going to have

cannibalism here

okay but for real talk real talk

so let's do some

with civil war world building who are the

who are some of the factions you would imagine?

You said Prad Boys in America.

I don't know if they would specifically.

I think the militias that already exist probably will just be there, right?

The militia movements that are already there.

I think that there

will be white

nationalists.

I think there

will already be

prison gangs

from prison gangs

like the Aryan

Brotherhood,

a bunch of other

ones,

Latino gangs,

black gangs,

you name it.

There's probably going to be

an official

government,

like still trying to

take control the country,

like backed by NATO or whatever like

August or something

there's gonna white nationalist gangs

sorry to cut you off I do

I've heard the white nationalist thing

I feel like it's going to be way more specific

on that because I feel like white white nationalists

don't even know how to work together.

No, no, you're right.

There's going to be like, there are those,

there's going to be like a million factions among them too.

But if you look at prisons,

it's probably like a microcosm of like

how society would be if there's no rules anymore,

probably.

So it might look something like that.

But I don't see, a lot of people think it would just be a race war.

And I don't think that's true.

I think that you're right, actually.

Because like, this is actually something that happens in prison too.

White people are fighting each other. Black people are fighting each other, Latinos are fighting each other. So specific coalitions will actually form between different gangs within different races to form coalitions against their own rivals within their own like race or whatever.

I think it's definitely, and that's the nail, that's the nail on the head.

I feel like there's still going to be those material conditions.

I think it's going to be who owns the most food, who I think a lot more.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. If there was a real, like it. think it's going to be who owns the most food who I think a lot more if there

was a real

like it when they will be

not even was it's it's going to happen we get

closer and closer every day like I'm very

black filled on it it's where

this country is not getting better but when this

movement to happen I feel a lot more Americans will suffer through hunger versus than getting shot at.

No, I straight up think a lot of people are going to perish.

And one of the things people are going to fight over is control over like these basic means of production, including land, you know, like in every Civil War, basically.

But I think it's much more realistic than people think, and it's not as dramatic as people think either.

It's not like, it's not like some fantastical thing.

It's like there is still like a sense of business as usual that happens.

It's just that who's in charge is no longer your like sheriff or your local police it's like

something else right and i think people really can't fathom the possibility of that until it's

actually going to happen and people are going to realize,

wow, this is a lot more normal than I thought it

would be.

It's essentially, it's like the Black Panther.

Remember the Black Panthers?

Yeah.

In every corner of your neighborhood and you have free breakfast.

That's what it would be like.

Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, it's not necessarily a bad thing, you know. That's what it would be like. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's it's not necessarily

a bad thing, you know.

That's that's actually the context in which I think

communism will

establish itself as a power within this country

to be honest. If we get our shit together,

that is.

But I don't...

Yeah.

No, I think if it's a civil war to happen in this country,

I think the biggest thing that I don't feel like it's often talked about

by other Americans is that every country, every country with the right head

on their shoulders would take advantage to that moment.

Absolutely.

China, China, China would take California, day one. Mexico would take, Mexico would take back Texas,

day one.

I don't, I see, I don't actually know about that.

I think what would happen probably is that the NATO would probably, or August,

something like that, would probably just like straight up intervene.

And a world war would break out if anyone else did you know i i think people

there's so much tension in latin america i feel they would hop on that the white

now i'm sounding right wing no no i no, I mean, it's possible.

It's just like the U.S.

Empire is very outsourced.

A lot of it is overseas bases and assets and resources.

And like, we created the EU.

We created NATO.

Like, we created all that kind of stuff.

And, like, the British Empire created us, you know, and they're going to still...

We're your daddies, baby.

We made you...

Yeah, but, I mean, when I say we, I mean, like...

We said it

our government did and it's like

if our government collapses

their assets are going to be used

to take back what they

you know what they think is theirs

against American citizens probably

you know

that's an app though you're laying down a true against American citizens probably, you know?

That's an ad though. You're laying down a true black pill. When I talked about

the Congo and I talked about these massive

military movements,

I had some people saying like, I'm looking

up U.S. military interventions and I don't see the Congo.

And I have to tell them, when you're talking about the United Nations military, let me be very clear.

That is the American military.

What troops does the United Nations have?

American forces. You're talking about when you the United Nations have? American forces.

You're talking about when you hear United Nations military has intervened in the Congo.

Read, American soldiers have intervened into the Congo.

I mean, this is all optics.

It doesn't even necessarily have to be soldiers because, you know, everybody knows how they overthrew La Mumba, right?

From pronouncing it correctly.

Yeah. Yeah. That was a straight up CIA coup

with collaborating with France of course

but like yeah I mean the the US

yeah the idea that US doesn't have a presence

in Congo is like crazy

you know but um we't have a presence in Congo is like crazy, you know.

But, um, we, we just have

a McDonald's, you know. Yeah.

So do you, you visit the Congo often or

what?

Man, I, I'm trying to go

again this year. Um, like I said earlier earlier it's a really expensive trip i did third

grade in the congo all my siblings have gone um a huge portion of my extended family still there

um of course a large part or a part of them are in the building in France, but not.

I imagine it's a very big country and it's like the, the places in it are like very, very,

probably, like, I was going to ask, is it dangerous?

But it's like, I'm sure it probably went to a part that's more or less safe.

So my family is a good shot.

So we're in the big city.

We're all city folks.

So Kachasa is one of the most expensive cities

in the African continent.

It's an international city just because of the material resources.

When you go to Kinshasa,

the biggest nightclums are owned by Iranians.

The best restaurants are in the Chinatown.

Wow.

It's, yeah,

it's no different than when you think of like the property planning and

any other Western nation is that a lot of the biggest cities and a lot of

commercial cities are,

are going to benefit a lot if their nectar resources and water and

Kinshasa happens to be next to the Congo River

and Kachasa also

has to be in the capital of the country

with the most

it happens to be the capital of the most

resource country in the world.

So every, every capitalist has their hands in it world. So every,

every capitalist has their hands in it and investment.

You go to Kinshasa,

you see product developments so different in America.

They're suburban communities,

all lived in by massive white families

because a lot of these companies,

they outsource a lot of their companies, they outsource a lot

of their employees, and they don't want their employees

to be living

too close to with the locals

or they might find some sense of solidarity.

So they'll build these large modern

homes contributing

quote unquote to the taxes

of the city, as they say,

but that doesn't really happen.

So, yeah, like how my parents grew up,

and how the people largely know,

they all grew up in the larger city life.

But outside the country, I would definitely say

especially east side of the Congo, where most people

hear about the conflict, that's essentially

the Wild West. Okay.

That's where most people hear about

the conflict and the violence.

And I can say a lot

of that stems largely

from those US and European interventions.

People, you see the movie Hotel Rwanda.

And people don't largely talk about the fact

that countries like Rwanda and Uganda benefit from the conflict

in the Congo because they're attacking the east side.

They're getting these resources and they have

and a large portion of Rwanda's

Uganda's economy is the

resource contracts that they have with

places like France and

with the United States, large parts of their

large force of their economy, so they have material

so they are incentivized to

attack the east side of the Congo

to quote unquote stop terrorism.

But what they're doing is essentially

contributes to the dysfunction

to the country. And the Congo doesn't have any satellites.

They don't have the ability to track

all these attacks. So it's a country that's

essentially just

it's a country that's essentially just Kachasan

and a couple other modern city

states that don't have control of their own country because of foreign because of foreign powers so yeah i i looked it up and it's like 17 million in kinchasa which is like crazy yeah it's a's a megalopolis. Big a city. Big a city.

Yeah.

But, no, I mean, that's an example of how like basic law and order can break down, but business as usual can go on.

You know, like, formally, you know, it's, everything can be cool.

And even like in a regular life can, can seem okay. But like in reality, everything is

chaotic, you know, I guess.

Formally chaotic. Sorry, I got them reversed. But anyway, no, I think, so you said you weren't born there or?

Yeah, I was the first American in my family.

Okay.

As soon as, yeah, I was conceived in the Congo, but as soon as my dad found him, I was pregnant, he was like, that kid has to be an American.

But, no, it was a good deal.

It was a good deal.

But I have visited. I, I implore anybody to visit to visit Africa. If you're French, it's a little wonky. Maybe go to Nairobi or like Ketown. But yeah, Katasa is a good time. Have you been? No, I actually, I haven't talked about this because it's kind of a

spoiler, but when we were in Russia, there was a window of, there was a chance we were actually

just going to go straight from Russia to South Africa to interview a certain...

I want to spoil it because it's like so out there.

It's like so out there, right?

But in the future, it might be possible, But we were actually discussing it and thinking about it.

And it could have happened.

I'm not going to lie.

Like, it actually could have happened.

But no, it didn't, it fell through.

It didn't happen.

But, no, we were, yeah through it didn't happen but um no we were yeah i was gonna but we were just

it just wasn't viable wasn't feasible but i think if if i was gonna go somewhere in i don't i don't

i don't know it's kind of unpredictable like i could find myself in the Sahel for some reason to cover what's going on there

It just it just depends really for me like who I know over there

You know and like I don't think as a tourist I would just go by myself without knowing anyone you know and like I don't think as a tourist

I would just go by myself without knowing anyone

you know it has to be work

related basically

I think you'd find

especially the growing

comments community in Africa

some of the most fun.

Oh, I've noticed.

Yeah, I've definitely been exposed to that.

When I talk to Africans, like communism is not shocking to them.

It just makes sense.

Even if they're not communists

they've thought about it a lot

and it's one of the things that is just like

considered one of the paths

of development we can take

and they've learned about it and they understand

it and you know some might have some

criticisms and nuances but it. And, you know, some might have some criticisms and nuances,

but it's not like a foreign language,

if that makes sense.

Like, Marxism is not a foreign language in Africa.

It's very much understood as, like,

deeply part of the decolonization process historically and very much considered

one of the viable paths Africa should take to develop itself.

Communism is very real.

I think, and I think a lot of Afghans also know that the consequences are very real.

I think a large wall today is just the, that Western intervention.

It's like, it's like, look, Cuba and North Korea are not paradises.

Those Cuba especially, I know it has a lot of problems, right?

We know about them.

But just being able to satisfy the basic needs of your population,

ensure their security, their food security, their health, and educate them.

I mean, I feel like in the African context, that's a huge achievement, you know.

No, Cuba is an absolute dub to almost everybody in Africa.

Cuba is a shining example of not only being a couple

miles,

a couple nautical miles away from the heart of darkness,

but surviving.

I think Cuba is suffering.

It's like,

highlight that for sure,

but like it's that blockade.

When people are like,

oh,

communism doesn't work.

And it's like,

well, I mean, there's places in Africa right now where like they don't, they can't even provide the basics for their people. Their whole economy is owned by foreigners. They literally have nothing. Cuba would be a great start

for a lot of countries.

Same with North Korea.

Like, North Korea is not perfect.

Oh, yeah, you're sanctioned.

You're embargoed.

Yeah, that's really tough.

But it actually beats, like, being and grueling

life-threatening poverty

where people are dying of

malnutrition and disease and stuff

preventable disease.

That's actually something

sorry, so sorry, you said something that I wanted

to mention with the Ginshasa context. What you miss out on, for sure, there is a modern country, but what you miss out on because of these capitalist powers is that certain things like medicine or certain things like certain pharmaceuticals are made so much more difficult to

gain or apprehend because there's just so much

more of a start class divide.

You don't get these other

benefits and you're not allowed to build the infrastructure

like Cuba has, for example, to have

prevent, if they can't if

cubans can get access to pharmaceuticals then they'll have the best preventive care uh treatment

in the world just what cubans have done but the conglies aren't even allowed to even be able to

do that. Yeah.

Sorry, I meant to mention.

No, yeah.

I mean, you know, and people, you know, I don't know.

It's just for some reason, failures within Africa and economic disasters are not considered failures of capitalism or imperialism.

But because Cubans don't have iPads, that's a failure of socialism.

But if people in Africa are starving or if they're dying of preventable diseases and, you know, and there's so much strife, economic strife and deep poverty, that's not a failure of capitalism.

Suddenly we get into like pseudo...

Raism.

Yeah. Suddenly we get into the race...

This is what I had to argue with these right wingers about.

Like, oh, yeah, they've always been poor.

They've never had anything.

Like, that's just how they are.

And it's like, okay,

so when socialism

isn't providing the same standard

of living as like the upper middle class in a

capitalist country, that's a failure

of socialism. But capitalism never fails. Because when it does fail, it's just that they're of an inferior

racial stock.

So convenient.

It's a system that can never fail, right?

System that can only work for a certain few.

Why a successful system.

Yeah, I mean, when it fails,

we somehow have an explanation.

But when it works,

it's because of the system,

you know?

But socialism always fails because

but when it succeeds like in China

it's not actually socialist

it's the capitalism yeah I love that argument

if China is doing capitalism why don't we just copy

their capitalism no that's too socialist

yeah exactly that's such a brilliant way to put it.

Yeah, China's not socialist.

China's capitalist.

All right, let's do these things that China does.

What are you talking about?

That's communism.

That's crazy.

What are you talking about?

Yeah.

That's literally it. that point yeah it's like uh china's capitalist

until it comes time to have like one percent of china's policies okay china's capitalist so let's follow

capitalist china's example

And own all of the land publicly

Let's follow China's example

And have all of our

Natural Resources and minerals

And like mainstays of production

owned by the state. Let's do that.

Could you even imagine if we remotely had a similar political system to China? China right now, the 3,000 member of China's central community, 70% of them have farming backgrounds.

Could you even imagine us as having a committee?

What just a Congress that was 3,000 members strong, 70% of them were working class people.

That would blow an American's mind.

But they're somehow like a ruthless totalitarian dystopian

um

dictatorship

but we're a democracy

because we have

Congress which is full of like

billionaires and millionaires

who can relate to the average

American on zero things at all.

Like you mentioned, 70% in China's government, the part of the government you mentioned, from farming backgrounds.

We have nothing comparable to that here, literally nothing.

Not one thing.

I can't even think of a local city hall that has seven as a matter of fact with a farming background being a politician is literally a

profession and part of the profession is getting bribed by like the actual capitalist class.

And then we call this democracy.

It's actually hilarious.

Yeah, get your check somehow.

It's because we've put so much of a, yeah, we put so much morality into earning money.

If you have a lot of money, you're a good person in the United States.

No, but it's like it's literally legalized bribery and corruption and you mention it.

And they're like, what are you talking about? I'm a congressperson. It comes with a job.

It's my job, you know? It's like, yeah,

I work at Apple. Yeah, I'm a congressperson.

I get bribed to pass policies

that

this company or this

corporation wants.

And it's just like part of the job.

It's on my LinkedIn, you know.

It's the 70% we got,

it's not only that,

but the average American couldn't even fundamentally

understand the fact that China,

they jail 40% of their billionaires.

Could you imagine how different our country would be if we jailed 40% of it would be a

night and day difference?

To convince ourselves that America is better, we just changed how we describe reality.

So, for example,

even though we have the highest prison per capita

population in the world

and probably in world history

in the modern era,

even more than Stalin's gulags

in the 30s,

if you didn't know that,

because we changed the words and we just were like, yeah, it's just like we have a large

population of people in our correctional facilities.

And, you know, instead of calling them gulags or work camps, like we call it in China and North Korea, we just say, oh, yeah, it's just penal labor.

You know, it's just part of the thing, you know.

We've changed the words.

It's like, oh, but we have a deeply corrupt government that's bribed.

No, no, no, no, it's not bribery.

It's just campaign contributions. Yeah. It's bribe. No, no, no, it's not bribery. It's just campaign

contributions. Yeah. It's just

lobbying, right? And then we've

changed, yeah, we've changed the words.

Oh, you know, police are killing people. Oh, it's just like

the use of lethal

force. We just change the use of lethal force.

We just, we just change the fucking words. And then the reality changes too, you know.

That's basically, I, my favorite is, is non-lethal force.

It's like, this will kill you less i've always enjoyed that no actually when you think about it

our sense of freedom is just tied to consumption and nothing else this is why americans are so deeply

and ignorant we are free in most people's minds

intuitively because we can consume so many different things but little do we know that in china

the range of what you can consume is broader actually they have more free if that's what freedom is to

you china's a million times more free than the u.s they literally have everything we have in terms of

products but more and better at people like what about censorship and it's like censorship is a formality in

china okay you can get any movie any tv show any video game literally anything you want it's there

in china and it's a same ditto with russia too actually right it's available. That formality point is

fire. It's a formality because America

exists. It's because China understands the material

conditions and understands that of America

has access to one of the

growing information networks of human history.

They will take advantage of that. 100%.

They're talking about the TikTok

band. It's mainly, it's mainly

a formality because

they're just establishing that

like we consider our information

a sphere of sovereignty, information sphere so if you

really want and you're a chinese citizen you want to go use twitter or youtube you can you can but

it's just one extra step which is just put a VPN on your phone.

It's not hard at all.

I talk to so many Chinese people.

I use NordVPN in Russia.

It's because they ban Twitter in Russia's Wi-Fi,

and it's just like,

it's literally a button you press.

Or it comes loaded onto the... Usually it comes loaded onto the usually it comes loaded on the

sim card anyway right the VPN but but most people don't use it see see this is what

people don't understand about China censorship it's not actually even preventing access it's more how um apps are used within china and how

those are optimized so i'll give you an example of this um because most stores and most uh places that deliver products to your front doors are tied to a specific app, that leads

people to use that app more because it's just more ingrained with how your life is. It's not because

you can't access other products or websites. You can. You can actually, you can,

but they're just not as integrated in China's economy and everyday life as the other apps are, right?

And so, like, China's social media platforms are all sovereign. They're all made in China, right? And one of the ways that that was able to be established was the kind of early system of internet control that the government decided to implement, which was like, we're going to kickstart this so people use these platforms more. Once that precedent is established, nobody cares if you go use Twitter. You don't want to use Twitter because everyone's on WeChat. You know, everyone's on, sorry,

we chat's not exactly it.

It's,

uh,

what's the one that they use in China?

Without We chat.

There's another one, too.

It's called,

uh,

it's their Twitter.

I'm blanking because I'm dying.

Big time.

My brainpower has been reduced by a lot.

It's like, it's called something with a W, I think.

Waybo, yeah. Chat got it waybo yeah wayble yeah wayble and um no i mean

everything's effectively censored here anyway because if you're a dissident enough you just get

censored deep platform. So it's literally

the same thing.

And, you know,

have you dealt with any censorship issues

on TikTok at all? Because I know Eddie has.

I'm very

careful with, I've been on internet

a long time and

snaking through community guidelines is

I would say one of my specialties.

The modern political spectrum

series, it's a TikTok series

that most people actually know me from.

I craft that series is the idea of getting around community guidelines.

Because they can't, I'm like, why would you ban this video?

I'm not saying, for what?

For what the far left person said or for what the far left person said?

Oh, it's like what J.

Reg does on YouTube basically.

Exactly.

Exactly.

Yeah.

And I understand why even J.R.R.G. did that because it exposes hypocrisy of these community guidelines.

They don't really care what people say they don't

they just care if they can get in trouble for it yeah and they don't they also don't want to get

caught for being biased so the political spectrum having everybody being in one video uh snakes around

those community guidelines inherently um so that's yeah that's how I get away the censorship.

Okay, nice. Yeah, that's really cool.

No, I mean, it's a big issue we've dealt with.

I've also learned how to get around it and know what to say.

I got, I was, I began uh big on twitch somewhat big and

then i got banned about a year into no i'm sorry yeah one year into it i got banned because i was

apparently because a an NGO in Washington claimed that I was a Kremlin disinformation agent with no evidence.

The Financial Times picked the story up then contacted twitch

twitch got scared and then i got banned you know and it's funny how that works it's like

you know i obviously there's no there's no that's one of the reasons this website kick was

made is because like twitch i know kick is a free-for-all or whatever but like twitch literally is the the biggest the most corrupt streaming platform ever in terms of how they implement rules it's like this random woman named Katie Paul

just attached a photo of my stream

captioned it

Kremlin disinformation information agent

and that somehow was evidence.

There was no, there was literally nothing

else. It was like, oh, he's repeating

arguments that Russia also makes.

So what?

They're my arguments.

If Russia happens to reason in the same way that I do about this, it's like, well, I actually agree with them.

I think they're correct.

Am I not allowed to?

What does it mean to be a what does it mean to be a kremlin agent could you imagine if we had this much if if if we if people had this much vitro for people

who are clear agents for the united States government. Could you imagine?

Like, oh yeah, this guy, it's obviously, it's feds.

How come we don't say that enough?

Like, I feel like we, we hover between,

we hover between these midline of glorifying and hating

the FBI, but we never fully commit

to one or the other.

It's so confusing to me on the other.

So confusing.

It's literally just an excuse to clamp down on dissent.

But, you know, I'm actually reading here.

I got mentioned by the ADL today.

Can you link that?

Today I did, or was it the older one where they said,

because I accused, I accused the Zionist lobby of being related to the TikTok ban. whether whether they are they did they do that whole classic article write up saying this person

is not only a racist but a homophobe but a sexual deviant ad loves that stuff i didn't i didn't see

that um i've seen the mix if you haven't only fans they'll find it adele

loves finding only fans accounts with people Can we

Um

Wasn't from today

Okay, it was from the March 20th one.

Yeah, that's an older one.

I almost got excited. I thought there was a new one.

You almost got excited, he says. You're hilarious.

Yeah, but they basically said

that I'm a conspiracy theorist or something,

which I don't think it's implausible at all because Jonathan Greenblatt literally said we have a TikTok problem because a lot of people are getting educated about Palestine through TikTok.

So have you, have you covered that at all on TikTokic talk or is it too risky oh no hell yeah no i've um

unfortunately i've had a couple friend relationships suffer uh because of what i've said about

israel palestine no way it's which is weird because i i'm not remotely synced any I've said about Israel and Palestine. No way.

Which is weird because I'm not remotely seeing anything close to what

like shout out to Eddie. He's going

ham. Sassad also

what's his name? What's his name?

I was just I was literally just

on his TikTok. James, james bookl james he's

absolutely crushing a series of content oh my god i feel so bad that i'm not jumping out

yeah i feel the ticot ecosystem's so different from youtube and Twitter and Twitch.

It's like very self-contained, you know.

James gets political.

James gets political.

He's doing great on the Israel-Palestine content.

But yeah, I did a political spectrum.

I talked about the hypocrisy of Mark Hamill being pro-Israeli when Luke Skywalker was a bona fide galactic terrorist

fighting the U.S. fighting the empire, fighting so like he was doing he was literally doing kamikaze runs.

But yeah yeah that's

pretty much suggested what I said

yeah

um So you mentioned you wanted to talk about Pan-Africanism, was it?

Yeah.

I was enjoying the Tandis that were going on.

But for those who aren't really well,

Pan-Africanism is connecting the untharring thoroughline

between a lot of African cultures

and those of the black diaspora,

black diaspora, black diaspora being black people

of the Americas, the Europe's, Caribbean,

and including northwest, east, and South Africa. It's a concept largely pushed by a lot of Black civil rights of movements, Kwame Turei, Klamin Nekumauma Thomas Ankara

I'd say it

has

its key difference between

Pan-Africanism's Afrocentrality

is not only its inclusion of the

North African into the

diaspora but the establishment of a more Marxian materialist

thought on really recognizing the third line between all these cultures being colonialism

and the defining moments of, and understanding the defining moments, the defining moment of recognizing that third line

is establishing a line of solidarity.

That is Pan-Africanism in a nutshell.

I hope I gave a good summary for everybody listening.

Okay.

Yeah, that was pretty much

um that that was pretty much

that was pretty much to just

uh

in terms of

uh pan-Africanism

in our current talks

of the Congo

was going to happen

in the Sahel

what's going on

with Niger

it's

when Pan Africaism

was being talked

about with

Nekrumah

when he was having

his talk to

his talk to

Patrice

Mumba

he imagined a united talks with Patrice Lumumba, he

imagined a united Africa with

the Congo being the capital.

Recognizing the Congo's importance,

material importance to Western powers,

but the Congo's

importance as the resource

sensor of the continent.

So why it's been Africa is important?

That's why it's important.

All right.

It's important because if we're talking about a strategy to overthrow

American imperialism and the global capitalist system Africa is literally a center the

center of the chess board basically you know because I mean I don't know anything

about chess so the center center might not mean anything.

But it's basically fundamental to that system because of its resources.

And as we're seeing with the French colonial system being overthrown in West Africa, the African Revolution will change the world.

It will change the balance of power.

It will accelerate the destruction of what we call the global American hegemony, you know?

I absolutely agree. But in the lighter note, I am. I'm making a...

Have you ever played a TTRPG before my name?

Is that text?

Text-based?

Tabletop RPG.

Oh, okay, okay.

No, no, I haven't.

Yeah.

It's like Warhammer basically, right?

Is Warhammer considered a TCRPG?

I don't know.

I know it's like tabletop something.

I know they have the models and stuff, but I've never understood the difference.

Uh, I'm doing a Pan-African TTRPG.

That's going to be cool.

Okay, nice.

Wow.

So you said it's an RPG.

Is it like what, what is that?

D&D.

Okay, okay.

Cool.

Wow.

Ding D and D and D but Pan-Africanism.

That's kind of like my big, that's kind of like my big C's right now.

Talk to me.

Is it like fantasy-based or?

Yeah, fantasy-based.

I got, I got places called McCrumas Haven into the world.

All right, cool.

So you're like making the figures yourself or?

No, the whole thing started from these TikTok videos I was doing, just talking about creatures from African mythology.

Oh, cool. Okay. Yeah, and I just got really excited. about creatures from African mythology.

Oh, cool. Okay.

Yeah, and I just got really excited about the idea of world creating this place where it was North, West, East, South Africa, the Caribbean, Black America's Black European myth, fol folk tales all merge into this huge

fantasy world and I thought it'd be a nice

change of pace to I have it like time setting set in like

the 1718th century but I thought it would be nice to have

a cool cultural center like a fantasy world versus like I know the black trauma porn that we have in mass media most of the time I want something, I saw something interesting on Twitter

and you know

I guess my opinion

doesn't matter

all that much

but someone was like

you know

one of the interesting

things about black

history month

it was like a black

person saying this

they were like

it's kind of like

you had an ex

that's like constantly reminding you like,

hey, remember the time I cheated on you?

What?

I mean?

I'm sorry.

I like lost focus for a second.

Yeah, yeah. No, they were like, they were like when it comes to like all like the trauma porn and like even black history month, they're like, it's literally like having a partner or an ex like constantly texts you all the time like, hey, remember the time I cheated on you sorry about that and it's like you

don't really like i still feel like i'm missing something no it's like you don't always want to be

reminded of how you've been done dirty because it like pisses you off basically. Ah, okay.

Yeah.

Especially when it's like you're being reminded by the person who did it to you,

basically.

You know what I'm saying?

No,

no,

I get what you're saying.

I get what you're saying.

I'm just,

I'm slow to the,

that's just what I read. I just thought it was interesting. It was like,

ah, that's an interesting way of looking at it.

Okay, so I just found your kick. I found the actual kick channel. I don't know what,

I was, I was hovering your Twitter. Twitter I'm like how is he doing this?

Yeah

I'm loving your chat right now

These guys are hilarious yeah

This guy says that's why the slave movies are kind of for white people

Which I very much 100% agree

Slave movies are for white people

Yeah I never think to myself wow, cannot wait to watch that slave.

Except for Django and Chain. Actually, I'm bullshend.

Django Unchane is like my favorite movie of all time.

If someone were to ask me, Malambo, what movie would you write?

What movie encompasses your hopes and dreams?

What movie, what movie encompasses your fears?

It would be Django Unchained.

It would be Django and Chain is the goat movie.

And it pisses them off to this day.

To this day that a white male like Quinn Tarantino made it.

I'm just like, damn, he got the white people.

We can't have anything.

I can't even have my superhero slave movie.

Have you ever heard that thing Kanye West said where he was like, he was like, my dad was a Black Panther.

And then now when you look up Black Panther, you just see like a Marvel movie.

And like he was like, that's kind of like intentional

what do you think about that

he was like

he was like my dad was a black panther

and like this is something like

not a lot of people know about

but like there was this group

that was like

organizing communities to defend

themselves and like empower people

whatever. And then he's like, now when you

look at Black Panther on Google, it's like

the first results that come up is like

some like superhero movie made by Marvel

damn deep take deep cut

that's crazy yeah that's actually

it reminds me of like when the BLM

protests were happening and

people were doing the black

the black post but when people did that

you couldn't find protests anymore when you did the

hashtags. Yeah, yeah.

That's crazy. That was something I was super

co-opted like very quickly.

You know, like the feds like got on that

real quick and they were like, all right,

we're gonna know

exactly how to

neutralize this

that's fucking

insane that's crazy

when you look up

Black Panther

you

I never

yeah and it's like

why am I having my mind

blown right now

I'll go yeah

because you know

you think about it.

Because when that movie came out, I was like, I understand it was always a Marvel character,

but it's like, why is there no connection being made to, like, actual Black Panthers?

Like, because it's kind of the same name.

And I'm like, oh, it's to like basically co-opt and erase that name.

Erase the reference of that name to like the actual history.

Because like when you think about it, the legacy of the Black Panthers was like crushed, you know, like it was a huge thing in America and then their leaders were either killed or they were like corralled by the FBI to be sciopped and like it was just totally disbanded and totally devasted actually a lot of gangs traced their origin to the Panthers actually no you're you're you're you're dropping bars right now.

Like the bloods and crips all come from the destruction of a black fraternal community,

a black of a black fraternal organization.

Yeah, yeah.

The bar and ice communities.

Exactly, yeah.

And it's like, but like people forget, people think that like, oh, like, yeah, black people just have these gangs because they're criminals.

And it's like, well, no, there was this like whole history of like this spontaneous form of political power that formed

i don't know if i'd call it spontaneous because it was intentional obviously there's a lot of

theory behind it but it's like it was this this was actually like a political project with a political

vision motivated by an ideology like a political project with a political vision motivated by an ideology

like a Marxist-Leninist ideology

and principle without which

it wouldn't have formed, right?

And people really forget about that.

Like the Black Panthers

were actually American

communists. They were in an

organic homegrown, American

communist form of power.

And it is literally

the foundation.

It is like a fundamental, it is such

a foundational part of not only american history but the history of the black community but it's like been repressed and now that these gangs that were that that originated from the destruction of that organization

their origins are totally forgotten you know like that it wasn't actually originally

about crime and like just cynically making money for its own sake it was actually like uh

it had actual like a spiritual

dimension of like this is an ideological cause

this is a movement you know

no um you're right

it does blow my I feel like that has

changed though I think a lot more people are coming into

because we had Judas in the black Messiah

where Fred Hampton in the first

five minutes is established the fact that we need to

fight capital and socialism

but maybe that's also like this weird thing

that's happening with Hollywood where every big blockbuster

Hollywood movie is suddenly using leftist language like the Barbie movie mentioned fascism

I don't know what's going on there I think they're co-opting it and using it in like twisted ways to like imply the opposite meaning, you know?

It's kind of what it seems.

So when people think fascism, they just think of Will Ferro's,

Roll Farrow's goofy character.

Not only that

Or like if they think fascism

They like think like

Even the way it was described

It was like

Fascism is like

The government control

of foreign commerce

And I'm like commerce

And I'm like

Wait a second

Control of Commerce is good.

How is that fascist?

You know?

You remember that scene where she says that?

She's like, well, she called me a fascist.

I'm not in control of commerce

and the trains or whatever.

And I'm like, huh?

Oh, shit.

Is that what happened?

I feel like my,

I,

I feel like I have like this,

I feel like I have like a rushing fail safe in my brain where I,

if I hear a wrong definition of fascism,

like that moment like just stops existing.

Yeah. No, I mean, I feel like, one of the things people did is basically like

convince American people that like fascism actually means

the opposite.

And actually, like,

it's,

it's,

what they describe as fascism is, like,

just,

like authoritarian countries,

like Cuba or North Korea,

China.

And when you have your shit in order,

like,

that's fascist.

If you're,

like,

discipline,

that's fascist. If you're like discipline, that's fascist.

If you, like, don't,

you know, if you don't want

your infrastructure

to fail, that's fascist. They've tried

to convince people that

that's fascism.

Instead of how communists were describing describing it at the time which is the terroristic dictatorship of the most aggressive sections of the imperial bourgeoisie it's like no fascism is actually like this real thing where like you know these big banks and cartels

we're resorting to criminal and violent means to preserve their power because democracy couldn't do it anymore

what's uh what's your what's your goats because democracy couldn't do it anymore.

What's your, what's your, what's your go-to, like, swift definition of fascism?

And I'll give you mine.

It's from the common turn by Demetrov. And it's basically, um, fascism is the movement

is rooted in the

the most reactionary

chauvinistic

it's a terroristic movement rooted in the

most reactionary and chauvinistic sections

of the imperialist

bourgeoisie

oh shit that was my definition

no uh it's essentially

fascism is essentially capitalism

but no bullshit it's saying the

it's saying you know the real thing out loud.

We already jailed black

people by the thousands. Now the guy's going to say, hey, we're

going to actually, we're jailing black people by the thousands.

It's just, it's not being bullshit about it.

We basically

live in a fascist state

but we just use different words so it's all good

basically

business as usual yeah it's all good i mean we live in a

yeah i mean the FBI is gonna come

there's like they do with the uhuru guys if you post a

Facebook meme they don't like they did with the Uhuru guys. If you post a Facebook meme, they don't like. They're going to raid your house, throw you in jail, throw the whole book at you in court and prosecute you. Um, basically destroying your free speech and crushing dissent illegally and arbitrarily

but it's not fascism because like we just kind of like call it something different i guess

i feel like we've been i feel like we've been a fascist nation most of the time and all the dope

parts were when it was kind of

like capitalism but really socialism.

Like we think about the 40s

that was kind of, oh, wait, what's the 40s fire?

What era of America do

America is considered fire? It's like

the 70s, right? The 70s were fire. Yeah,

70s were fire because we had

that new deal trickling in

all that prosperity all that money

the visions the civil rights

yeah yeah yeah I mean

I think yeah nostalgia is a big thing in this country

because you have nothing else to go by.

But, uh, it is, are you nostalgic?

Are you nostalgic for the past?

No, not really. Not really.

Not really.

Let's go forward thinking.

Let's just go fully forward and just

get on with it. Go through with it.

You know? Because every attempt

to mimic the past ends up being

a pathetic failure and I cringe out.

Like, there is a, there is a new wave of 80s nostalgia in the late 2010s.

And everyone is like, oh, I want to, I want to authentically replicate the experience of the 80s.

And it's like, this is, I could, I see the desperation of your nostalgias and it's like this is I could I see the desperation

of your nostalgia in the

work itself and it's not

working. This is not actually what the 80s

was.

It's almost like the tragedy of the commons.

Anytime we try to

even movie look look

even the star wars movies which i didn't watch i just watched scenes of them i don't know

if you agree with me on this but it's like i watched a few scenes of the new star

wars and the first thing that struck me because everyone was complaining about how much it deviated, and I was like, wait, wait, wait. This isn't deviating. This is literally like trying to reproduce the special effects from the 80s or 70s movies, the sound effects, the, the, um,

CGI.

And I'm like, this looks very retro, actually.

It's very, very retro.

And then I'm like, you look at the prequels from the 2000s, those were not retro.

Those were like them or hate him, but like that was a new vision of sci-fi that George Lucas was building.

And I looked at some scenes of the new ones and I'm like, it's so retro.

It's so like. It's so like

it's so filled with like

fan service and nostalgia and I'm

like I do not like this

at all, you know?

I haven't seen the new star Wars. I stopped

watching after

I tried watching

that new one, the Force Awakens, but as soon as they

didn't give the black guy the lightsaber

and he wasn't a dead. I knew they

catfished me. I'm like, these motherfuckers

because I saw the trailer,

I saw a black guy with the lightsaber.

I'm like, let's go, Mace Wendu

2.0. They fucking heard me.

They knew it. See, a lot of

people talk about like, bitches.

I'm so angry to the day. A lot of people

talk about like inauthentic

woke culture for representation.

But I'm like, you know, in the prequels,

Mace Windu did not feel forced.

Like, he even had a purple lightsaber

because he asked for one.

It didn't feel forced at all.

Yeah.

To this day, they,

George Lucas does not understand how many black people immediately liked star wars as soon

they they thought star was so lame i was in community every black person thought star wars was super super

lame all right except for lando calericin yeah the calericin was still Calaristian was still, but he was like,

he was like barely,

he was like barely in it, you know.

But then you see Samuel Jackson coming in with the baldhead,

the purple lightsaber.

He might as well had a,

he might as well had a black panther fist.

Yeah,

like it made sense, you know, but I don't want to, I'm not trying to like look back with

rose tinted glasses, but it's like, also if we're going to do the nostalgia thing,

can we like start accelerating?

Like, okay, now it's 90s.

Like, let's do nostalgia for the 2000s now.

I'm kind of sick of the 80s.

If it has to be nostalgia,

and no one can be creative

about, like, making anything new.

But we're barely into 90s nostalgia.

What is 90s

nostalgia really? I'm still trying to figure it out.

I actually have a kind of theory

of this. It's like 80s nostalgia

is like a nostalgia for

like almost

a kind of like darkness

with neon lights and it's like all cyber and it's like it's like very um it's a nostalgia for the celebration of inauthenticity and how there's some kind of new freedom we gain from this inauthenticity like the new you know this new

technologies and the the rise of the information age in the cyber space or whatever it's all very much

like unlocking the innermost freedom for us to pursue our desires.

I kind of find it a little grotesque.

But then the 90s is like this new authenticity.

It's like 90s is like, okay, let's return to normal.

Let's like wear blue jeans, I guess, instead of this wacky 80s stuff and it's very

outdoorsy that's another thing about the 90s it's very it's always like you always look at 90s

like music videos and like culture and it's like always about the beach and it's about like being outside

in the summer or something. I don't know.

I never like that the 80s

the 80s wave. I don't like the 80s though. I look forward to

the 90s. I look forward to the 90s. I do. Big jeans are fire.

Yeah.

I miss Simpsons wave.

Where's the Simpsons' nostalgia?

Yeah.

I got like family guy more, though, to be honest.

Whoa.

No, I mean, look, look, Peter.

Whoa.

Look, here's why.

Because Peter Griffin by himself is comedy.

If you just look at how he's drawn, it's immediately funny.

Then how he talks, it's like, it's already takes the W.

Okay, okay, if we're going to do, okay, if we're going to do a talk about the best cartoon sitcom, it's got to be American Dad.

I actually, I never watched it, but.

What?

American dad probably started me on the road to communism. Because I was like...

Because I had a character.

There was a character, I think, that was, right?

I'll say even the, yeah, there's the main character.

The main character works for the FBI, CIA.

I know the was for the intelligence community, but I had

growing up, I had a friend.

I went to a Catholic private

school and one of

my dad's friends worked into the intelligence community.

He acted

so much like Stan

in just his day to day

that before watching

American dad, I thought him

being in the intelligence community was kind of like

that uncle who worked in Nintendo.

Oh, I have an uncle that works in Nintendo. You know what I mean?

You can get you all the cheat codes. After watching American dad, I have an uncle that works in Nintendo. You know what I mean? You can get you all the cheat codes.

After watching American dad, I'm like, holy shit, that mother, this dumbass, this dumbass

actually works for the intelligence community.

I could actually see this dumb ass working for the intelligence community, like the two

and two together.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, cartoon in real life moment cartoon real life moment but uh no i i hate to cut it short but i think we're kind of approaching

so it's almost 10 yeah no this was a good time haz um yeah gonna i gotta eat this pesto and pasta

with the wife yeah i got to eat too you for let me on no for sure man it was good having you on

appreciate it uh is there is there a good bye so i say out. If you want to shout anything out,

you know,

any kind of social media,

anything at all?

Easy.

Hey,

guys.

Hey,

Malumbo.

Follow me on my socials.

Hey,

underscore Malumbo.

Not only can I yap for hell along about politics and a whole bunch of other tangents.

I also make trap music checking me out on Spotify.

I make super eccentric pop music just like my personality.

Centric bubbly as fuck.

Let's go.

I'll see you guys on the next podcast stream, kick, if they have me on.

All right. See you guys.

See you later. See you.

Duceus. See ya.

All right.

All right.

All right, guys. Thank you, Juzon. all right all right Yeah, I think he was a cool, he was a cool dude, and you know, I feel like he's like a normal dude, you know, which sounds crazy to say, but it's like, in our sphere, we're just so used to encountering just like crazy personalities, whether good or bad, usually bad, but, you know know I feel like he's a good example of just like a normal person

you know just a chill dude

and um

I appreciate

how he can simultaneously

be invested in a lot of these ideas.

And, you know, we probably don't agree on everything,

but he's, like, invested in this kind of, like, perspectives and ideas,

simultaneously also a normal person, rather than, like, an antisocial freak who's like you know like on some insanity

psychopathic you know so yeah you know that's that's what i would say but um yeah uh so guys tomorrow i'm going to be peering on that rattlesnake tv um 2 p.m eastern

and there's a few things I did want to talk about today Well, what's going on, man?

The Iranian embassy.

Right.

Iran is threatening retaliation. I'm not sure what form that's going to take.

Also, Russia at the UN has condemned Israel's strike.

Also, keep in mind that it was in Syria.

The strike happened in Syria.

So that's a big, big factor in why that would happen.

But guys, I want to talk to the community about some things.

I want you guys to continue the clip game big time because Rev's clip actually did pretty well.

When you're choosing what clip, remember the things that you find the most persuasive,

that you feel like a mass audience would relate to them. Just use common sense, basically.

Toplop has a software for AI to use clips, by the way.

And they will go viral, whether you're putting them on TikTok or Twitter.

We need an all-out drive for clips.

And I'm putting a memo out there for that um we need to step up our clip game and you guys i don't know if how

seriously you take this so i'm going to explain it to you.

Let me explain this to you. Nobody knows or is nobody is going to know or care about what infrared is if you don't clip and show them through

clips not 10 hour videos clips okay clips are how people and i'm not just talking about one

clip or two clip the clips have to be so persistent and so regular that people start getting accustomed to seeing them

regularly and then and only then will people actually like take infrared seriously and like investigate

deeper and watch our YouTube videos and read our stuff.

But nobody is going to care about infrared if you're not clipping aggressively like every other

political community does. Okay. So let me just clarify that. you guys do a good job on x and on social media but infrared is not ever going to grow if you're not aggressively on the clip game.

No, you don't need permission to post clips.

You literally don't need permission at all.

No, don't send them to your... Put them on social media.

You don't have to send them to your family.

If you want, you can.

But there's no political community that can grow without

clips, all right? And pay attention to that. You know, I'm getting a little worried

sometimes, guys, because I always have people ask me, Haas, when is the organization coming out? When is the organization? Well, we need to, before you worry about it is coming within months, but how are we going to have an organization if there's not even a competence at the level of what we do on the internet you know if you're looking for something to do clips okay period you're so have so much i want to join an organization all right in the meantime

you could be really you you could help out a lot through aggressively clipping the streams um

and yes that makes a huge difference like that's night and day you that makes a huge difference.

Like, that's night and day, you know.

Makes a huge difference, actually.

Another thing I wanted to say is... I forgot, so I'll just tell you

Thursday when I remember it.

I'm kind of very lightheaded and

very hungry.

Guys, I think I'll see you Thursday.

Been a good stream.

Been a good stream.

Say hi to Sli just liquor for me bye guys