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What's up, everybody?
I'm not laughing.
Ron Swanson, what's going on, man?
I see you.
I see you.
And I'm looking fresh as usual.
Looking extra fresh.
Not trying to toot my own horn, guys, but this suit don't even fit me no more.
I lost so much weight.
This shit don't even.
Excuse my French.
I'm not trying to swear no more.
Taryn Fievek, wow, what a surprise.
Teras, would you vote for Genocide Joe if I awarded you a harem of the fat Fiona ogre hose you love?
You know, Taryn, it's uh.
Uh it's just a really tempting proposition, but uh
Sayop, what's going on?
But I think principal has to come first.
I think principal has to come first.
By the way, guys, we're going to be bringing on Malumbo.
If you don't remember him, he's the cool guy from Jubilee that we saw.
And we're going to have him on for a Zoom discussion.
I have something else to announce as well.
Red Saffron, what's going on, brother?
How are you doing, Red Saffron?
I have something else to announce as well.
Johnny, 2x4, what's going on?
I'm gonna kinda quiet down 'cause I know I'm very loud.
I mean, I could be as loud as I want 'cause it's my house.
Uh, a lot of people think I live with my parents or something.
I don't.
I can literally be as loud as I fucking want because it's my fuck.
Wow, I'm yelling a lot.
That was that was uh
That was Chunky Haas.
All right, Chunky Hawes was yelling a lot.
Slim Haas, I don't yell.
Kami Farabi, what's going on?
No, for real, I I um
So, I got a suit custom fit.
Not this one.
I got a custom fit suit because this one didn't fit me right exactly as I wanted it.
And I went to go pick it up today, and it straight up didn't fit me because I actually lost a lot of weight.
Because I've been walking a lot every day.
I've been doing the carnivore diet.
I don't know if you heard of it.
But I'm going back pretty much back to my original size.
Like how I started out.
I don't think I was ever fat, but I was getting a little.
Little bit big, you know, little bit big.
But uh the reason I'm telling you this, because I know you care a lot, but the reason I'm telling you this is 'cause uh inspiration.
I mean, I can I lost like 10 pounds in a month.
Probably more than that.
You can do it.
It's actually, you can do it.
You just gotta work hard and you gotta be determined and man, put down that food.
I mean, just have what you need to have.
But once you stop eating so much, you stop indulging in snacks and desserts and whatever, you start to appreciate.
that chicken, that grilled chicken.
You know, you start to appreciate
meat, you know, all the flavors and
Whatever, how savory it is, anyway, guys.
That's some inspiring news.
My weight loss journey.
Um.
But I also want to fill you guys in on a few things that are happening this week.
Tomorrow, I don't stream, but at 2 p.m., I'm going to be going on.
A show hosted by a man named Jake Rattlesnake.
Now, you guys might know who that is, but he hosts Rattlesnake TV, which is a YouTube podcast.
And he covered my appearance on Tim Pool rather fairly around the time in which I went on Tim Pool.
And so, this is why I'm going to be going on.
And, you know, we're going to have a discussion.
For Robbie, what's going on?
I can't believe I missed you there.
Um, that's important.
So that's going to be tomorrow at 2 p.m.
Eastern Time.
Of course, I'm going to be giving you the link in the Discord, as I usually would.
But I'm letting you know ahead of time so you clear out your s I'm just kidding, you know, it's optional.
It's gonna be on his channel.
Tune in or don't.
It's up to you.
But if you're in that live chat, I mean, you can be you can make an impression in that live chat, you know.
But it is what it is, guys.
I'm just gonna nah, be there, you know what I'm saying?
Be there.
But don't quit your job over it, but
But you get what I'm saying, right?
We have some uh other things on the itinerary.
Wh which we will cover after our discussion with Malumbo.
Long awaited guest, he was supposed to be here last week, there were some scheduling issues, got it sorted, and now it's gonna be now, today, in about like five or eight minutes or so.
Yeah, it's on YouTube.
Rattlesnake TV at YouTube.
Um
There is a lot to talk about, actually, tonight, specifically.
And I say tonight specifically
Because
I'm not gonna be repeating themes from the past, of course, but some things have come up which we're gonna need to address and talk about.
Important things.
After the interview with Malumbo, of course.
There's some breaking news.
Israel, quote unquote, has recently targeted Iran.
Thank you so much, Salaf.
Have you heard of Dr.
Ray Pete?
Take the bioenergetic pill.
It's Deng Xiaoping Theory applied to biology.
Unleash metabolic forces.
Yeah, I've actually been.
I'm not gonna like say I've been on a peat diet because I'd be lying.
But his sugar advice, I did take his sugar advice, and I'm having like fruit.
I'm not fasting, full disclosure.
You know, like, let me burn in hell, I guess.
Olami Amigo.
Gracias poor L workout tips.
Migosta Infrared.
Thank you for the five, but you know Hold on, Wall Face!
What do you call a communist sniper?
A marksman?
You know what?
Give me a second.
Give me a second, because that was a knee slapper.
That was a double knee slapper, all right?
Thank you for the 10.
Guys, you know, I don't like Caleb Maupin.
I'm not a big fan of him.
But.
First, I'm not laughing for that, but don't bring his family into it.
You know, come on.
Let's be a little more classy.
But I know who's sending these donations, you know.
I know who's sending these donations.
And all I'm gonna say, all I'm gonna say is not gonna leak who it is.
But what I will say is
Hmm.
Hmm.
How would I put this?
How would I put this?
Damn, if I was in a survival situation, this would be horrible.
Like, what kind of coded message can I give?
Uh, huh, let me think.
Let me think.
Alright, alright, alright.
Got it.
I know who it is.
'Cause you tend to think fat people are crazy cokeheads.
You guys don't get it, but the person knows who they are and I get it.
So, you know, you just go running around with accusations about
Fat, fat people being crazy cokeheads, and that actually makes them scarier.
If you just see a guys, if you see a giant fat guy who's like 500 pounds.
Sure, they're very majestic looking, you know, very powerful.
But then if someone says, Yeah, that guy's a crazy cokehead, that changes everything.
That changes.
If it's like an older guy, like an older gentleman, like 40 or 50 years old or something, with a beard, really, really fat, and then someone points him out, like, that guy's a crazy cokehead, and he's out to get you.
Then you've just created a far cry villain, you know?
You've just created a far cry villain.
You've just created a terrifying monster.
It's literally terrorism.
What do you call the ghost of Karl Marx appearing?
The Communist Manifestation.
Okay, okay.
Give me a second.
That's a knee slapper.
Thank you for the five.
Appreciate the five.
You know?
But isn't that true about the cokehead thing?
I'm not talking about Paul Rogers.
Trust me, it has nothing to do with that.
And the Yankee tanky.
No.
No.
No.
What I said is way more spe way too specific.
A tall, fat guy.
Really tall.
Anyway, guys, um
Let's get down to business.
And uh we're gonna I'm gonna bring on our guest in a second.
But I have a slight headache because I've been drinking a lot of coffee every day.
It's something that's been boosting my metabolism and allowing me to walk a lot on the treadmill.
You know, if you guys want some weight loss tips, honestly, just like don't eat that much.
Eat a lot of protein.
Cut the carbs.
You don't really need bread in your diet at all, actually.
You can have some rice.
You can have some fruit and vegetables.
And just like walk on the treadmill a lot, like three miles every other day.
And then every other day, one mile, like one mile minimum, just walk on the treadmill or three miles.
And you'll like straight up just lose a lot of weight right away.
Right.
That's my advice.
If you care, you know?
And honestly, I respect fat people in a certain way, and I'm going to qualify this.
And here's the thing, right?
If you're above thirty
And that's the only people it's justified for.
All right.
If you're above 30 and you're a man.
You can be a female who's really obese after you're like 35.
Right?
I am sexist about it.
But if you choose to be fat, that is not necessarily illegitimate because you only live once.
And the pleasures in life, I'm just talking about pure pleasures.
It's like a triangle distribution.
You know, like for a character creation, for like a skill tree, right?
And let's not be vulgar, but we all know what they are.
One of them.
Is food straight up food like food is great, okay.
If you want to live your life just devoted to food, you actually can and not be that miserable, you know, and if you're ever feeling sad, just order some pizza.
What's you know, it's not that bad of a life.
The bad stuff comes from the health problems, actually.
Now, the other thing is not very PG, but it's something that we as human beings.
Thank you so much, Wall Facer.
What happens to radioactive snowmen?
They melt down.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Let me pause.
Let me pause the whole stream.
Let me pause it.
That's a knee slapper.
Thank you for the five, man.
Appreciate it.
The other thing that's too like, it's not PG, you know.
I'm not going to mention it.
But like everybody w
wants it or likes it.
And young men are facing a crisis where they just can't get any at all, right?
They just can't get any.
And
That is something you can also be addicted to, I guess, and put all your points in that.
But I actually feel like that one will be way more self-destructive, like instantly self-destructive.
Like that one, you'll just die in like a year or something, getting a disease, or like worse, or you're like, you'll lose your mind.
You'll like become psychotic.
If you're just a fat dude who likes ice cream, you can last a long time just living that kind of life, right?
Now, finally, the third thing.
Is drugs and you know, drugs sound horrible, but that's also alcohol, that's also pot, that's also whatever else, you know, even tobacco, it can even be nicotine, right?
And if you put all your points into drugs, it's also an extremely destructive one.
So, actually, being fat is the least destructive vice you can have in terms of the only three things we can really get addicted to.
And, like, if we're hedonists, that is, and I don't recommend being a hedonist.
But, um I don't recommend that.
But uh, if that's if that's how you have to live your life to be happy, just be fat.
You know, that's my advice to you.
Don't do the other stuff.
Don't do the other stuff.
Don't do the drug.
You know, I actually saw really, I'm going to bring Malumbo on in a second.
I hate to keep him waiting, but I actually saw, I don't really check the infrared Reddit, but I'm going to do it right now really quick because I want to give someone, I want to commend someone.
For a really touching story that someone sent me, which I just found very, um.
I found it very moving.
And you know, if if this person is not lying.
And they're actually serious about
you know
About
the story that they're telling here, I really commend it actually, you know, and I just wanted to share it with you guys.
And no, this is not a joke actually, this is serious.
I know you guys can't tell sometimes 'cause I'm really good at
I'm really good at like, you know
joking around.
Give me a second, let me capture this.
Just really quick, we're just gonna
We're gonna yeah.
Alright.
Um
Yeah, so okay, I'm just gonna summarize it for you.
Hello, everyone.
My name is Joshua.
I'm 19.
Made this post.
I started watching in early 2022.
I don't really engage with the community.
The past few streams have spoken to my soul.
This is quite embarrassing on my part, but I can't keep it any longer.
I've been an active viewer since watching my first stream, How the Democrats Con You.
That's a YouTube stream.
I've never reached out to the community because between that time up until around 2023, many of the streams.
I've been watching.
We're under the influence of alcohol, disassociatives, THC extracts.
And something called Delta 8.
COVID was a dark period, and these habits started forming, and this is why the government permits them.
So, what changed?
I believe that I've encountered the elusive string of truth which every fervent believer in communism has.
I've replayed nearly every single infrared stream since the third shift job at an automotive factory that makes air vents for luxury cars.
You know, I want people, I don't know why people have this idea that all my viewers are NEETs.
When I think a minority of my viewers are NEETs, and I think, is it safe to say I think at least a majority or a significant minority, like 40%, are blue-collar workers?
And tradesmen.
Like, there's a lot of tradesmen and blue-collar workers that watch infrared.
And I've noticed that.
Fortunately, they permit us to have one earbud while working stationary.
I've been listening to Marxist Communist literature whenever I have free time at home while working out, but I still have a long ways to go.
This is actually a person in the working class who works at a factory.
And who uses their free time to learn about communism and Marxism.
And I am so honored to have helped inspire them to do that.
But let me continue.
But man, the other day I got home from work and listened to that stream and made me bawl my eyes out.
The mention of having a passive existence of consumption in order to keep us going describes me and everyone I know.
But I'm done with that.
Participating in this era of humanity is something I would be proud of.
Um, infrared collective and the missionic legacy of communism has given me the strength to set myself on a better path.
Um, the thought of where I'd be today had I never watched that first stream scares me.
Probably still on drugs, harder ones, even.
And he said that he is gonna join the Discord and say hello.
And I expect you guys should welcome him.
He was too nervous and shy to say anything.
Yeah, welcome, man.
You know, um.
you should feel welcome.
And uh guys, I just wanted to share that story because
Um
You know, this is why I do what I do.
This is actually what motivates me to keep doing what I'm doing because I hear other stories like that as well.
And I know I'm somewhat of a comedian and a pretty brutal person, I guess, when it comes to dealing with bad faith enemies and opponents.
But at the end of the day, the message that I'm.
I don't wanna say selling, but
what I'm communicating is the same thing that motivates me to get up in the morning.
It's it's what motivates me to continue living.
I I I'm a joker, I'm a comedian, but let's be honest,
Full disclosure, I would not have any purpose in life.
I would have no reason to continue living.
if I didn't believe in what I believed in, if I if my life was not devoted to this specific tradition and this specific way of making sense of the world and of history.
and ultimately the meaningfulness of my life.
And
for people struggling to find a place in in doing that and
I guess relating to that string of truth.
It's just, thank you so much, Krass.
I appreciate you.
It's my honor.
And uh, you know, reading stuff like that is actually what motivates me to continue what I'm doing, you know.
I uh I definitely appreciate
that gentleman sharing his story and uh you know, I wanted to share it with you guys as well because maybe you are in a similar situation or you were in a similar situation.
But however many jokes I tell
You know, I'm dead serious actually about this.
Like, I'm dead serious about it.
It's not a joke.
In the grand scheme of things, it's not a joke.
Like, I'm dead, I'm actually dead serious about this stuff.
And, like, yeah, I'm actually serious about communism, like, with a capital C.
No, it's not a joke to me.
Like, that's not ironic.
Like, I'm actually serious about it.
Like, straight up, yeah, I'm gonna catch bullets for Lennon.
Straight up.
It's not a joke.
I'm telling you that with a straight face.
That ain't a joke.
Like, I'm actually serious about this.
I stand on business for communism.
Like, yeah, I'm serious.
Marxism-Leninism actually is the most advanced outlook.
attained by humanity
And uh I fully devote my life
you know, to the to the revolutionary cause that it helps clarify.
And allows us to see before us and discover, you know?
And I mean it.
Like, yeah, I'm straight up dead serious about that.
Like, it ain't a joke, you know?
It ain't a joke.
Like a lot of people think, Am I doing a character?
Am I like, yeah, I joke about a lot of things.
I'm ironic or whatever about a lot of things.
But like, I'm telling you straight up.
Communism is not a joke to me.
Like, it straight up isn't.
Um.
I've regarded myself as having
committed to devoting my life to it for
I mean
over a dozen years now.
You know, like 13 years or something, like half of my life, more or less, half of the time I spent breathing.
Um,
And like I'm not a I'm not a f I'm not a f um fundamentalist or whatever in the sense that
I can't fathom the idea that people see it different than I do.
Like, I can fathom that you see it different, right?
But this is what I believe.
And
I'm not certain of the fact I can convince others.
And you know what?
There is a and full disclosure: like, just so everyone knows, like, I do have a worm of doubt in my head that I might just straight up be a crazy person.
Like, yeah, I've thought about that.
I don't know for certain if I'm just a crazy person.
Like, I straight up don't.
But.
You know, that's why my name is Haz al-Deen, you know, of the faith.
This is just faith.
I just have faith in it.
You know?
If you don't have that, what do you have?
There's nothing you can be certain of.
Anyone living their life for any purpose at all, are you certain that your purpose is the correct one?
Well, you don't have absolute certainty.
Maybe you are just crazy, but it's like, what's the alternative?
You know, lay down and die like a dog?
Just rot away?
No.
No, I'm a cho.
I choose to believe.
That's what it is.
I choose to believe.
I choose to believe, right?
And it's not just belief.
Like, the dots are there, they're connected.
But
Um
You know, it's being a communist is a matter of integrity.
Now, once you educate yourself, once you actually know about it,
You have two options.
You can surrender it because of the pressure that comes from power and popularity and wanting to fit in, or you can continue to stand on business because it's what you believe is true.
But nobody believes Marxism is incorrect because they've actually read Marxism and know about it.
Thank you, Chris.
Appreciate it.
It's really good in the 40th year of being a communist.
Yeah, I mean, I'm sure it does.
And, you know, communists nowadays are known to be depressed and alcoholic or whatever and miserable, but.
We're going to change the tide of that 100%.
Thank you so much, Syap.
I appreciate you.
Now, without any further ado, let me bring on Malumbo.
He's been waiting for 15 minutes.
And, uh,.
We can't keep him waiting any longer.
Let me go ahead and get the zoom all set up.
Alright, give me a second guys.
I'm just gonna start a meeting.
It's gonna take two seconds.
Alright, let me uh get this invite copy invite link.
Alright.
Alright.
So hopefully he's still here.
And didn't have to leave because I took too long.
That'd be a big L on my part.
But I just gave him the invite link, so let's wait.
Um
Alright.
I mean, it's only fair that we have to wait a little bit because I made him wait too long.
Anyway, um, I guess I'm just going to continue what I was talking about.
Um, yeah, I don't know.
Like, I feel like a lot of people who are like, I'm gonna devote my life to communism or this idea or that, can't get over the fact that not everybody agrees with them, and that's a source of anger for them and resentment.
So they're just like, you know, it's a sense of superiority they get over others, or it makes them feel like they could do anything they want and not have to take into account.
you know, basic human decency 'cause it's like a fundamentalist.
Like, you know, if I'm I'm doing this in the name of God, I can anything is permitted.
And you notice we've r we've had run ins with a lot of religious LARPers like Gay Liar.
And his whole following, and like those people are fundamentalists.
And fundamentalists sound based like the Taliban, but that's not what it is.
People who feel like they can lie because they have God on their side, right?
So, how do they even have access to God?
All right, he's here.
Yo, what up?
Can you hear me?
Yo, what's good, Haas?
How you doing?
How you doing, man?
What's up?
I'm doing good.
I'm doing good.
Finally excited.
Finally excited to uh to get a chance to talk to you, my man.
I thought I thought you were ducking me for a little bit at nine points.
Nah, nah.
Um.
So we we actually came across you from Jubilee when you were on with Eddie and we were really um impressed by the things you said.
And I gotta ask before anything, like, did you know about infrared or Midwestern Marks before Jubilee or?
Um, I knew about Eddie just uh because of our similar content.
We've crossed paths because just because of the algorithm.
Uh, but uh, no, I had no idea about infrared uh up until you know the video actually dropped and you know, the fan base is into trying once again to uh mention your guys' beloved podcast.
Yeah, for sure.
So, so you on TikTok basically?
TikTok.
I have a presence everywhere, but yeah, TikTok is pretty much the biggest fashion.
Yeah, we'll make sure to shout you out or whenever you want, you know, so people can find you.
And I appreciate you coming on, and um, you know, I think maybe to start, um
But we can pretty much go any topic you feel like.
You know, one of the things we were impressed by is the way you were defending communism and socialism on Jubilee was the way you formulated that in terms of like what's best for America, what's best for the American people.
And like you use the P-word, like patriotism, right?
And I don't know if you know this, but it's like kind of controversial around the space because people say that when we make arguments like that, even though they're effective to convince people who are not one over to our side, that it's like, you know, it's chauvinistic and it's inherently.
You know, uh, it's it's like you're selling out or something.
What do you think about that?
'Cause we, you know, we saw you say that and we were like, wow, this guy's actually really based.
And the fact that you haven't heard of Infrared and you only tangentially knew about Midwestern markets, you're kind of like outside of that discourse, it seems like.
But you arrived at that position anyway, because it's just like, I guess what made sense to you is pretty like interesting, you know?
Uh, no, uh, if nail on the head, I how did I come to the same understanding?
Uh, I graduated with a sociology ethics studies degree from the University of Colorado Boulder.
Um, I have a master's degree in legal studies, um, and I say that to kind of give like an idea of like the platform I come from.
I really understand people, I enjoy the understanding of social interactions, and that's why I feel like the Marxist materialist thought just came so easy to me because everything Marx was laying out was sociology.
Was well, yeah, was that uh, was that political science, but it was that sociology as well intertwined with it was very much the study of human beings and human behaviors intertwined with that study.
Um, and using really looking using that lens to understand the material conditions of American culture, of American society today, like what is American culture?
And I, I cynically, I cynically say narcissism.
But there is some validity to it.
You go to Washington, D.C., and they deify George Washington as if he is Jesus Christ.
There is, and it's not just our history, but it's every facet of American culture is taught to give you this chip on your shoulder.
Even if you are one of these marginalized groups, at least you're an American.
If you're black, at least you're a black American.
Like, it's it's it's intertwined in every facet of the American being.
So, if we're going to be talking about communism, we have to talk to Americans in the language that they've been fed to since they were since they were a child.
We can't have this, uh, unfortunately, we don't have the benefit of a rugged holistic culture that Lenin had during the Russian Revolution.
We don't have the Confucianist culture that the Chinese had during their Chinese Revolution to find and kind of have that solidarity point.
That's how they were able to interpret all the science.
Like, they had a culture base to understand these messages.
So, what is the culture base?
I'm sure there's an actual specific word that I'm trying to define here, but the culture base for Americans to understand communism.
Well, I say it is: okay, if communism is the future, then that communism better be an American one.
I think that would resonate a lot more with Americans to get them a lot a lot more a lot more on the train ride, if you know what I'm saying.
You know, I I find it incredible that it's like you're outside of this like discourse of like leftist gibber jabbering, and then you manage to actually arrive at like the
The specifically correct Marxism.
Like that, what you're saying is actually like what Marxism is actually all about.
It is all about understanding the material conditions you live in and leveling with the people's consciousness where it is.
I also like how you mentioned, in contrast to Russia and China, we don't have a sense of like an intuitive, unconscious.
Thing that unites all of us, right?
It's always so overt, like you mentioned.
Like, it has to be, we have to directly pledge allegiance to the flag, literally, right?
Because if we don't pledge allegiance to the flag, like we don't have the confidence of, oh, yeah, we're still part of a shared history and culture.
Because, like, you know, in Russia and China, in Lenin's time or Mao's time.
Everyone understood what China was.
Like, nobody needed to pledge allegiance to any flag.
Like, China's China, Russia's Russia.
It's very clear, like, what unites everyone and what shared history they have.
And we are lacking that.
And, you know, it's like you understand that Americans.
If if you are interested in building any kind of communist movement in this country, you have to know where you are.
You're not you can't just LARP and pretend like you're doing everything that Lenin or Mau were was doing and you can just like neglect
These basic realities, but it's like, you know, these leftists, I call them pan-leftists actually, because like they're not really like specifically Marxist.
They're just like tangentially, you know, sympathetic to it, I guess.
They claim to be.
But they're like, they try to, they're trying to make it seem like we are revisionists who are violating Marxism by knowing how to talk to people.
And, you know, I don't know, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like your way of putting things probably also comes from the experience you have actually talking to people and like learning like what actually works when it comes to like what is necessary to like get through to people or what would you think?
No, you're that's 100% nail on the head.
I grew up as a Congolese American in Colorado.
I so yeah, I grew up with this idea of rugged capitalism, rugged individualism being, you know, bootstrapped all the way to success, that type of deal.
But, you know, dealing with the actual real idea that I was a lower class black individual and all these, I'm doing all the right things.
I'm studying.
I'm getting to honors programs, but that doesn't stop the real fact that when I go home, how come, how come my, you know, how come my mom's always tired from today?
How come we don't have as much food on the table?
My little sister just got a scholarship.
Like these things aren't connecting.
And so you bring these up into schools.
And the length, there always seems to be this loss in translation moment where you realize people don't, you're not properly even taught what being poor is in America.
When I was, when you're being taught what poor is, you think that's somebody who's a drug dealer.
You think that's somebody who doesn't take care of their kids.
My mom took care of us very well.
Like we, we, she pushed us to go to school.
If we had any free time, we were in the library.
So these things were adding up.
And then what kind of happens is once I entered college and finally got that critical thinking, finally I actually understood sociology, I realized through that loss of translation moment, you just have to find a way to just talk to these people.
I'm like, okay, if you really don't understand what poor, what being poor is, what is the common factor that we could talk about?
I think education is a big factor into getting people to get more and more class conscious.
So in order for me to pursue the goal of getting people more class conscious, I have to find the equal playing field of talking to you about education.
Because what kind of American doesn't care about education?
What kind of American doesn't care about wanting their kids to be educated?
And then you could broach that conversation to other factors.
And like, I'm like, damn, we have all this education, but why are they making it so hard for you to get to work, get to school?
Then you can branch that coverage to the public transportation.
Just really just, because there's certain conversations you just realize it's just like you said, it's what's more worth it, the war or the battle.
And the materials analysis of it, it's like you can see it in every focal point in history.
Was Lennis a revisionist by needing by robbing a bank?
Was Lennon a revisionist by getting funding with getting funding by a multi-millionaire communist in Britain?
It's looking at the material dishes.
What is possible and what is possible is that.
I have to talk to an American like I see him as a fellow American.
I think too many people get caught up in the idea that people's racial vitriol is so viscous enough that they wouldn't be willing to work with you.
I was surrounded by races at all times, especially when I was a kid.
The first slurs I heard was growing up in Colorado.
But at the end of the day, not saying that's bad.
Racism is very real.
Racism is as real, racism is real, it was breathing error.
But like I said, people's racial vitriol, the idea that people's racial vitriol is so viscous enough that we aren't willing to work together.
Like, there are plenty of racists that I've worked with at my job.
At the end of the day, they need to pay rent.
And if I could talk in the equal playing field of rent, I promise you that works every single time.
That's how the idea that we can't work together is a myth.
That's it.
You know, it's incredible because it's like, you really do have a proletarian consciousness, I can tell.
And the reason I can tell is because what you're basically saying, and at any point, you can correct me if I'm wrong, but it's like,
You know, a lot of people begin with the assumption that we have the benefit or the privilege, I should rather say, of not having to actually win the masses and just like isolating ourselves from them.
And then, like, okay, we're right and they're wrong.
We're going to create like our discourse island where we're just correct and you know, all these other people are racist or problematic or whatever, like to hell with them, right?
Whereas like a proletarian consciousness says, like, we are nothing without the masses.
I mean, if we're calling ourselves communists, it's like what Mao said: we have to swim among the masses like fish in the sea, like fish in water.
We don't have the privilege to like.
you know, erect a barrier between us and them to the point where we could be like, Yeah, you know, we can we have the privilege of just being like an educated Marxist minority.
And if like people don't agree with us, it's just 'cause they're stupid and I'm smart.
It's like, no, the minute you call yourself a communist,
Even if you don't have time to actually go down to the masses and like do the work, it's like, in terms of your mentality, you can't write people off as masses entirely because they're problematic.
Those are your people, those are the people.
Like, this is the country you live in.
You may not like the way it is.
I don't.
You don't.
No one does here, right?
Who's watching this?
But this is still our country.
This is, we don't have like the privilege of some other kind of refuge.
And I kind of feel like it's almost like Marxists have this like Zionist mentality of some kind.
Where they're like, I just go to Israel or something.
Like, I just like abandon ship.
And like, I, well, you know, most people can't, you know?
So it's like.
Yeah, what do you what do you think
No, uh, I uh I feel like I've heard that's this argument, like so many.
It's it's the go-to argument.
If you don't like it, just go, just go to a different country, just go live there.
I'm like, okay, are you gonna fund this?
All right, with what, with the capitalist money that you have as well, right?
Yeah, I mean, people don't even know this, but like I was in Moscow.
I'm saying this like a girl who just got back from Paris and can't shut up about it.
But for real, like I was there and um.
To be real, everyone's like, Yo, why don't you just go live in Russia?
I'm like, Well, you know what?
If I didn't care about communism, if I didn't care about like the sense of duty that I have politically, in terms of just like what's well, what would make me happier personally?
I would straight up go live in Moscow.
I would take that over anywhere in America, any day of the week.
Like, I would be way more happy living there.
I would get along with people better.
I would just like be more at home in terms of.
The like the the the the urban setting the the metro system that it had like if I if you if you want to actually have me go live in Moscow um that's not that's actually like a benefit to me that's not like a punishment against me right the punishment is me staying here and fighting here because because like I go to Russia they don't need me over there like I would basically be like mooching off of them like oh can I let me go to Russia and like be one of you and it's like well
Why?
You grew up in America.
Everything you know is American.
America is your problem, right?
And it's true, actually.
So, no, it's funny.
You know, one of the first things people told me when I was like a kid, I guess, like I was a teenager, they were like, Well, you can always just go live in Cuba and just like go live in, and I'm like,
It's it's kinda interesting 'cause it's like, okay, on the one hand there's like this patriotism, supposedly.
Then on the other hand, it's like this idea that countries are just like commodities and it's just like a preference.
Like, oh yeah, just go live in the country you prefer to rather than the one you're obligated to like improve or whatever.
That really just goes to that really reveals somebody's uh class alliance when they're able to just throw an idea like that.
Like, oh, you can't just you can't just summer somewhere.
You just can't leave.
That's crazy.
That's literally insane.
It's $3,000 a loan to go to the Congo.
Yeah, no, I know.
It's crazy.
Like, just dri flying to the other side of the world, thousands of dollars.
It's like, for some people, that's like.
That's more than they make in like several months, you know, and but I I d I don't know, it's just the the the i i you gotta think about it rationally, right?
Because
Everyone in this country is in debt.
A lot of people are incre are increasingly poor, living in poverty.
Most people are too proud to admit it.
For the I think, what do you think about this?
This is something I might ask you.
Like, for the majority of people who actually are in poverty, I kind of get the sense that the majority of them are too proud to admit it and are straight up like not willing to disclose that on any level.
But, like,
Because it's like people are living in denial, you know?
Yeah, I firmly believe, I firmly have the take that like 80%.
I consider about almost if you're not the job creator, quote unquote, I consider you one of the poor classes of Americans.
You are working class.
I think a lot more Americans are more willing to call themselves working class than poor for sure.
Yeah.
100%.
No, but it's just like, I think one of the reasons people might be hesitant is because the amount of debt that they have people in is insurmountable.
There's no rational way it can be paid off.
And people kind of feel like it's their fault and like they got themselves into this mess and there's no way getting out of it.
So like by talking about it, you're like acknowledging the impossible situation you're in.
I feel like most Americans don't take into account their debt as their net worth.
That's true, actually.
They think they're like Donald Trump.
Exactly.
They think they're the nation.
They thought, well, America owes trillions of dollars.
I owe like 400 bucks.
I'm slimming.
They haven't been taught to think that is like a real punishment.
It's a punishment because they constantly got to pay interest.
If it was just debt with no interest, like, yeah, who cares?
Right.
But interest is an extra form of rent we pay.
Like in addition to rent to have a roof over your head, in addition to paying the bills, in addition to paying for the internet, in addition to paying, you know, for your groceries and like all these other expenses monthly, your insurance, you and your mortgage, you know, your car mortgage or whatever.
You also have to pay this extra rent, which is just like filed under the general category of like, you know, like that episode of SpongeBob where it's like Mr.
Krabs is charging people for breathing and shit.
He's like breathing, existing, living.
Like that's what debt is.
You know, it's like being charged king.
Yeah.
It's like you're being charged just for like the general fact that you exist and you have to take out loans to like make a to literally like afford to continue living, you know?
No, that's um well uh people have to pay debts like uh destiny I sent over this league destiny had to had to pay some debts eight thousand dollars uh per
But let me read the full tweet from, let's see, a hoax versus true.
Is he trolling it?
Because I saw something like that where he was like.
He was like saying that, like, he has all these people DMing him and stuff, but then he was, everyone was like, no, it's just a troll.
Of course.
Ever since I started the Israel Palm I'm uh playing it right now, Palestine Arc.
I've gotten so many connections.
Um, I've gotten like new payment processors.
I don't know.
Uh, he might be trolling there, but like it also could be like low-key, like telling the truth by joking about it.
If you know what I mean, like, oh, yeah, I'm just trolling, but actually, it's true.
Is that a tactic?
Is that a tactic?
Yeah, it could.
I mean, I know for a fact he definitely gets fed talking points, like 1000%.
He does.
For sure.
Yeah.
He, and you know.
I actually think it's probably likely that he is working with like some kind of like.
Israel
PSYOP, whatever.
I don't know what they would be called.
Whether informal what is what's has barra what's has bar am I am I am I yeah Hasbro is basically like the the PR department of like Israel like the Zionist entity like whenever like you know they need to like counteract a narrative or spread a narrative or like get their message across It's like damage control basically Okay, so so forgive the dyslexia for for a minute.
I was looking at Hasbro.
Oh yeah, yeah.
No, it's called Hasborough, something like that.
Hasborough.
The Hasbro Confession.
I was like, honestly, with the amount of Israeli, sorry, with the Israeli allegiances that popped up in terms of media, Sarah Silverman, Jerry Seinfeld.
Okay, I'm saying names that are actually aren't too surprising.
So forgive anybody that's probably laughing at me right now.
But it's just, it's, it's, it's Amy Schumer's little thing.
I, yeah, I last time I heard of her was from 2016.
Oh bam.
Oh bam.
But no, I mean yeah a lot of these Hollywood people a lot of them low-key are just coming out for Israel.
Yeah a lot of celebrities are even some music.
You know that guy in Dune 2 still haven't watched it yet.
Timothy Shalamay?
He he came out for Israel too, did he not?
Shut up.
Timothy Shalamay?
I think he did.
Yeah.
And then he I think he had to backtrack it or something, but I'm pretty sure he did.
Yeah.
Um, that's not why I haven't watched it yet, but I because I thought he was doing Callie Jenner and I thought I thought Kylie Jenner was deed.
I'm literally making stuff up.
This is how rumors start.
I got no idea, but um, no, I mean, Hasbro, you could tell when stuff is fake and it's like a psyop.
And like, you know, Destiny likes to be a contrarian and just like take the opposing side of like what's correct.
Uh just for like the devil's advocate.
Like ego, whatever, but no, I th I think it's you know, you know, it's all it's interesting 'cause like.
He actually accused me of taking money from Russia.
Like, well, before that was actually a plausible thesis.
Like, I'm not saying it's true, it's actually not true.
Like, believe it or not, I haven't taken a dime from Russia, right?
I went to Moscow a month ago.
Um, and I met a lot of people, but like, I have not gotten paid anything, right?
I made connections and stuff, but still paid nothing by them.
But this was in 2022 when, like, there would be no reason to believe that.
Like, I didn't even have any major Russian connections at all, like, friends or whatever.
And he said he straight up told his stream, like, yeah, he takes Russian money.
So that's yeah, that's kind of crazy.
Uh, it's crazy how quickly the Russian agent, the Russian agency pointy figures got flipped onto the leftist side.
Uh, I feel like it's it's no, it's it's crazy how quickly things just keep being flipped.
One new idea pops, boom, like tanky used to be like a word of endearment.
Other leftists would like would jokingly call other leftists.
Then liberals and right-wing people got tanky and it became like a genuine insult.
I'm like, damn, like it honestly feels like being black twice, my man.
We can't have shit.
We can't have shit on both sides.
It's crazy.
I mean, but I said no originality.
I said this before, but it's like, what a great term, though, because it's like, you know what?
If you want to summarize my politics, it's like, yeah, it's got to have a tank.
It's like straight up.
It's like straight up.
Like, you want to talk about socialism?
You want to talk about communism?
Whatever?
We need a tank, man.
You ain't, you know, you don't, you don't get that by itself.
That's not, you need a fortress.
You want to talk about national liberation?
That's a tank, dude.
It's like, it's like that meme.
You ever seen that meme where they're like, what was it?
Like, why'd you invade Iraq?
Because they had weapons of mass destruction.
And then they're like, all right, so why not invade North Korea?
And then the U.S.
is like, oh, because they actually have weapons of mass destruction.
You know, it's kind of like that, you know.
You know what?
That reminds me of one of the famous things that the administration before Mandela did before they left was they dealt with South Africa.
Right.
So there's no, there's no country, there's no country in the continent of Africa with nukes.
No wonder they're just plundering a hoy.
People, people need to realize that like you could straight up just build nukes and get away with it.
Turrets work.
The minute you build them, you can be sanctioned.
And you know, at this point,
Um, I've been following what's going going on in the Sahel and, you know, because of France's aggressive posturing, I straight up advocate for the newly liberated countries in the Sahel to actually like straight up start building nuclear weapons.
Because they can get this is the perfect time to do it and they can get away with it.
Niger has so much uranium that actually possible.
Niger should straight up just do it.
What are they going to do?
Sanction you?
It's like that means nothing.
What do sanctions?
What do sanctions even mean in the grand scale of things when you really look into a long-term sense of the situation when your country is starving, when your people are tired of being treated like this for the past 30, 40 years, even after supposed decolonization?
And the only bread of hope you've ever been given is the Belt of Road Initiative by China.
And then you're being told by these Western powers, hey, we think you're working for China and Russia.
So you should just stop doing that and go back to the 30, 40 years of just being poor and being shitted upon.
Of course, they're going to think, oh.
The deal's up.
The racketeering is up.
When you see little Nigerian children throwing rocks at drones now, the children know.
The children will understand that this is a foreign power that does not belong here.
And once that sort of thought is held on to the people, it's over.
If you don't have the people, if you don't have the masses appeal, I think that's something a lot of Americans constantly seem to forget.
And I don't blame that.
We are so often fed this idea that one FBI agent or one soldier is like fighting all of America, is fighting the whole nation.
But it's just like, nah, it's just the people.
It's just massive appeal.
They just got us, they got us starting young, and we just have to do the idea.
We have popular ideas.
You just have to keep talking to these popular ideas.
And Mel Morant.
Let's go.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, like, no, I just mentioned it.
Like, everyone's in debt.
Everyone, our positions, there's no reason it shouldn't be popular.
It is a winning message.
But then you think to yourself, and it's like, well, it can't be that easy.
And it's not because what they do is they fill our ranks, our ranks, quote unquote, with a bunch of like bad faith actors who do everything they can to make our message as unpopular as possible, like as unpopular and as antisocial as pop as possible, just like unrelatable to people, you know?
I think my hot take is that this is really, we're really in a defining moment in American history and an American thought process where these ideas are popular.
They're in the popular consciousness.
Like the conversation we're having or the conversations are popular, somebody like, somebody like, something like infrared, something like Midwestern Mark, something like even like a Hassan Abi sounds so foreign and alien to me just growing up in the 90s.
Like I was born in 19, I was born in 1995 and I still remember, you know, like, and like we're still young enough to remember just what a Bush era America was like.
Even the Obama election cycle, there's nothing been even remotely close to that.
We lived in a completely different America in terms of culture and phases.
And I feel like that should be a great example of how quickly ideas can change.
Oh, why did Lenin say weeks could turn to days or something like that?
It could be for the positive and in a way for the negative.
Because if you see how everyone's flip-flopping, like left is becoming right.
A lot of right is becoming left, it seems like with foreign policy.
It's like, you know, you had people that are like.
Supposedly leftists now becoming like NATO propagandists, straight up, like saying, Yeah, you know, um, the U.S.
multi unipolar world order is actually good and it needs to be maintained at all costs, or like, or even worse, they're just like, Well, you know, it's not necessarily that it's good, but multipolarity is just imperialism.
But with other countries, and it's like it, this is villain talk, it's so crazy, unipolar, world, world domination.
That's straight up, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's it's hilarious, yeah, but it's like it's it's like we straight up are a world police who claim we have the right to dominate the world, but nowhere is this like sanctioned legally or like it's not even sanctioned in the constitution we have, it's just straight up something that we have because uh, if you dissent against it, you're a Russian agent, and no one wants to be that, right?
So, we better keep our mouths shut.
What's wrong with being a Russian agent?
You're such an intelligent person, you went to school, you know, Russian, yeah, no, no, no, I understand the concern.
I understand the concern.
People want to be liked, and I think that's um, that's one of the biggest barriers of I think coming into this, coming into this conscious part of like critical thinking.
People find it scary to question what they deem to be the correct way of thinking about things.
Um, but maybe I'm a half-glass full person, I feel like we're slowly steadily getting closer and closer where.
Social media
So social media and socialism, i it's no pun intended or something.
No, yeah, yeah, no, straight up straight up.
I mean, it's all about the institutions like Romsky was talking about, but he wasn't alive for the internet and social media.
And he couldn't and social media is what's driving like actually a lot of the political change we're seeing because like the mainstream media and the institutions can't keep up with it.
But um but they're trying now obviously.
But um you know it's kind of off topic a little bit.
Going back to where you where you came from, which is Colorado.
Um, I always had this thesis, thesis, sorry, that communism in America is going to be built in the Rocky Mountain area, like that whole giant, sparsely populated area out west, like right before California, but like after the Midwest.
So, in your experience,
What w how would you appraise the cl the climate, not like literally, but like the social climate in Colorado in terms of like the ideas, the level of consciousness people are at?
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Not to let me think about this a bit.
Let me think about this a bit.
I mean, feel free to burst my bubble about the hypothesis.
No, no, it's an interesting question.
I've thought about this a lot.
I feel like we've all had our millions of scenarios of how it would go down.
And weirdly enough, I would have to agree with you.
I do very much believe that a lot of Coloradans have a degree of class consciousness.
There is an idea of labor solidarity in the average Colorado.
Like strikes are always praised.
Like it's there's there's there's a good idea of labor solidarity in Colorado, but I do very much do believe they do fall into a trap of the temporary various millionaires once you get a little bit closer to the cities.
But out in the rural areas, like things like that are definitely praised.
It's like it's like people like Richard Ojeda.
I shouts out to Richard Ojeda.
I used to work with him.
Oh, wait, wait.
No way.
See, in 2017, when he was running my group, what's now called the Infrared Collective, we were following that very closely and we were like, you know, this might be something.
This might have, but you actually worked with him.
Wow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's a good guy.
He was in West Virginia, wasn't he?
West Virginia.
I was helping with the, I was social media manager for a couple months right before, right along when he was working alongside TYT.
But really just helping in terms of like, of course, the presidential campaign didn't do well.
So really just helping him push other candidates that he would be able to lend his voice and his notoriety to their campaigns and whatnot.
It was a good time.
And I'm glad to have worked with him because it felt very similar to Colorado, for example.
But how I'd see it go down is I very much think that.
If Jared Poles' introduction to Colorado politics is a big game changer, I think it's really just put Colorado into a fast track of just a lot more leftward politics.
They've decriminalized almost every single drug except for cocaine.
They've, in terms of the homeless crisis, they're not falling prey to the email tries rhetoric that's coming out of California.
It seems like the temporary home talk is actually what's being pushed a lot more than just more criminalization of what it is, what is essentially a class crisis that's happening right now.
I think Colorado is ready.
I think if I could see it happening in America, I also agree that it would be Washington.
It would be Washington, Oregon, Colorado that would make up the bulk of what we'd see as true, like leftist uprisings.
When I say uprisings, actually, I think it would be more of an economic alliance.
I think what's happening economically in Colorado has a lot more positive outcomes.
And what will happen is that the not so positive outcomes that are happening in the South will require certain states to make political treaties or political agreement, sorry, economic agreements where they could benefit each other's trades or benefits each other's culturally tourism and whatnot.
I also think that's how I see it happening.
I also have an impression that it's just a less consolidated area in general compared to elsewhere.
You know, you look at.
You get you look at the East Coast, obviously, and like that's that's captured territory politically.
Like it's very well defined.
The Midwest, same thing, very well defined politically.
The South as well.
You know, even even Trump when hi with his idea of a quantum leap, you know, I don't know if you heard that.
But the idea is like building cities out there where I just mentioned, you know, round the Rockies.
And it's just like within American consciousness, it's kind of like a
It's not a very, yeah, I don't think it's a fully tamed area, if that makes sense.
I think there's a lot of oh, you know what I'm saying?
You're saying it's like, yeah, you're saying, okay, is Colorado being the wild, wild west a factor and it being like having more solidarity?
I feel like it has more an effect on its level of like social consciousness.
Because I feel like in a big Colorado is kind of backwards, not backwards, but just a little behind.
Because when things happen in America, when things happen in this nation, you feel it in LA, you feel it, right?
Exactly.
And then it's like there's a lag there.
Yeah.
No, you're right.
There's a huge lag.
I don't know if that would have an effect.
I feel like it has the worst effect where a lot more right-wing stuff takes a bit longer to get the real truth of things.
Like things are a little bit delayed.
I feel like I was fighting my own battle here where I was one of the more informed people, more informed political commentators coming out of Colorado, where I was the leftist voice in Colorado for to this day.
But to be fair, they weren't getting any other news.
To be fair, though, you know, where else was lagging behind was Russia, you know, and China compared to Western Europe.
So sometimes that's actually a benefit because some of the more false, let's call false consciousness or erroneous pathways of leftist politics of like compromising and like selling out and stuff like that hasn't fully taken root.
And there's like a window of opportunity for something totally brand new.
That's actually super fire.
That's actually a good observation.
I didn't really think about it like that, making that comparison with Western Europe and Russia.
Very valid.
I do see the validity also in terms of if it would happen, a successful uprising would or just a successful movement.
I got to stop saying uprising.
I'm going to give myself, I'm going to give myself.
Well, I mean, to cut you off, there is a movie coming out.
Civil War?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That looks awful.
Did you see?
I got to find this article.
I got to find this article from the director, but he did a both sides thing.
He was saying the left and right are both a problem when I'm portraying in this movie is that it's less about, it's, it's less about what they're talking about and more about they're doing it in the wrong way.
I couldn't have rolled my eyes harder.
But you know what?
I still want to see that movie because I just gotta give some money.
I gotta see it.
I gotta see like the Americans because I feel like it's gonna happen, you know?
I'll bootleg it and we can watch it together.
Yeah, don't give them, yeah, don't give them money.
Just yeah.
When does it come out, by the way?
I think it should be out, right?
Is it May actually who comes out?
Uh, it comes, it looks like it comes out uh April 11th.
Oh shit, okay, wow, all right, yeah.
I but no, it's I do think with because there is, I forget who said it, but there's this old adage that America became a superpower as soon as it took over the West.
As soon as plains of farming, of rich, fertile soil, America was indeed a superpower.
So if there was a large, a large, successful movement, they would have control of all the farming centers.
And there's another factor.
Yeah, yeah, there's another factor too, which is uh one of the ways class struggle was always dealt with was land speculation.
Like the promise, like, okay, I'll just go out west, take up some land, steal it from the Indians, and just like that'll be how I settle.
Like, I'll be fine, right?
And then once that frontier was closed, it's like there was no valve to release the pressures of class struggle.
And working people actually started pointing their guns back toward the ruling class, like, all right, we gotta take what's ours.
And then that's why we had the New Deal and, you know.
The kind of more or less welfare measures in the Cold War and what not.
But, you know, that's that's where the frontier is enclosed in a way.
And I just think it's so sym it's important symbolically.
But, you know, I wanted to mention about that movie actually, 'cause I saw a map on X, like on Twitter or whatever.
And it was like, so apparently, this is how it is: the Midwest is the Republicans.
The Midwest and the South and the East Coast are Republican territory.
For some reason, Texas and California are like the liberal territory.
And then for some reason, and I have my Rocky Mountain thesis formulated like a year ago, so I'm not stealing it from the movie.
But for some reason, in the um.
The top uh the north
Western part of the country, including like Colorado and stuff, it's occupied by a group called like the New People's Army, which sounds very left-wing to me, but I don't know if that's what it means.
But you know what I'm saying?
Like, I feel like it's like some like Maoist group, or I don't know, some new people's army.
And I saw that map and I was like, What the hell?
The prophecy's coming true.
Like, this guy is also thinking something's gonna come from this place.
But dude, I think that's awesome.
I still, I, I.
If I had to if I if we're doing world building like civil war American world building five different factions sounds about right because I feel like there's a common thing that we're not gonna say the United States anymore no no no not five there's gonna be fifty you know there's gonna be hundred listen my new euro see my parents didn't really live through the civil war in lebanon my parents parents did and that's why they left it's a contributing factor it was complicated my grandparent was actually on the israeli kill list and like straight up was like all right i'm either gonna get killed or i can go litigate my rights in the beast of the the belly of the beast right
My actual parents were like really, really super young.
They were like five years old.
But pass down, and from like what I read up and from what they told me, and how I understand, even how it is today, it's like when civil wars happen in the modern age, it's not like two factions fighting.
You know, it's not going to be like the American Civil War.
It's like law and order breaks down.
And like more or less warlords basically like start taking over, replacing that function of law and order.
And feuding, it's like feudalism, like feuding with others because of the the the the nature of the power structure isn't fully resolved and there's like blood feuds and there's gang warfare and there's like there's also political fighting as well.
It's a huge factor.
So I kinda feel like what's gonna happen is that there's gonna be like one hegemony that looks like NATO, uh the the remnants of like the deep state.
Like that's going to try to reassert order, and there's going to be like 50 other factions that are like basking in the chaos, more or less.
You're valid, though, because that was essentially the point of the long march by Mao was to get all these rival all these rival warlords and various factions to get under his communist flag.
I very much see, I very much see that happening in the same vein.
Um, 50 is a lot.
I do think that there's, there's, we still, Americans love their great man theory.
I do think celebrity culture will have some sort of influencer.
Every influencer will have their own army.
Like, there's going to be, there's going to be people, there's going to be people live streaming like battles and executions and shit.
God forbid the Hassan Abiya army.
Oh, no.
God forbid.
God forbid the wait, the Proud Boys.
The Proud Boys are a perfect example.
Yeah, that's already happening, right?
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
I mean, no, but I, I, I, uh,
I think a lot of like I see a lot of American conservatives scoffing at like Haiti.
Like look how backward Haiti is 'cause there's like all this violence and gang warfare.
Which uh
I don't know if you're up to date on what's going on there, but.
Last thing I saw was the prison breakout.
There's been a lot of fake news spread, but more or less a U.S.
puppet government was overthrown due to their deep popularity.
There's a guy named Barbecue who's being demonized in the media as like an evil criminal or something, but he's actually like uniting all the gangs to form a new government and to put an end to the kidnappings and the crime and like pretty popular.
Um, it's actually funny because a um streamer who's big on this website, Kik, that we're on right now, he actually went to Haiti just to like, you know, do extreme prank, I guess.
I don't I don't know.
Um, and he got kidnapped by one of the gangs.
So, one of the people who I met briefly on X, Dan Cohen, he's a journalist.
Who actually interviewed Barbecue and some of the leaders in Haiti?
He called up Barbecue and he's like, Yo, tell this gang to let this guy go because like, you know, it's a violation of your treaty with him.
And Barbecue didn't even know what happened.
He was like, Oh, yeah, for sure.
Like, forced him to release him.
And, like,
Uh no, but I I'm kind of babbling.
But I'm trying to say about Haiti is that no, that shit was crazy.
I was like, damn, first off, his name is barbecue.
Yeah.
To this no, no, I was I was in the story.
I was like, whoa, this is crazy.
No, shouts out to Haiti, but go on.
Yeah, man, a lot of conservatives are like scoffing.
Man, I'm like, you know, I feel like that's the future of this country.
Like, I feel like that type of like chaos and breakdown of law and order probably will happen here because people don't have confidence in the institutions anymore.
And that's really all it takes for everything to break down.
Like, it doesn't take everyone picking up a gun and like overthrowing the government.
It takes people no longer respecting the institutions of like power anymore.
And like, once that happens, it's all it's over, you know?
And then I'm reading up on oh, sorry, go on.
Yeah, I mean there's already parts of America now where that is the case.
Like there's parts of America where police just don't go anymore, right?
There's parts of America that are like de facto controlled by gangs and they're controlled by like other groups and
I think that will happen on a much widespread, more sorry, on a larger scale, probably, involving a lot more kinds of factions.
And we'll probably stop calling them gangs.
We'll probably just say, like, these are warlords, right?
Like, there's gonna be like, yeah, there's gonna be like a liberal warlord.
There's gonna be like, you know, um.
You just mentioned the Proud Boys.
There's going to be stuff like that.
There's going to be neo-Nazis and like cl neo-clan.
I don't know what they would call themselves neoclangers.
White nationalists.
You ever see that photo of that white nationalist recently?
Where they were in Tampa, and that guy was bald and covered in tattoos.
And he's doing the Hitler salute.
He literally looks like a terrifying monster.
I feel like I've seen that picture in so many different occasions.
No, this one's a little more recent.
And I'm like, wow, that's going to happen here.
Like, that dude is a Nazi salute.
Come on.
That dude's going to start eating people 100%.
We're going to have cannibalism here.
Okay, but for real talk, real talk.
So let's do some Civil War world building.
Who are some of the factions you would imagine?
You said Proud Boys in America.
I don't know if they would specifically.
I think the militias that already exist probably will just be there, right?
The militia movements that are already there.
I think that there will be white nationalists.
I think there will already be prison gangs from prison gangs like the Aryan Brotherhood, a bunch of other ones, Latino gangs, black gangs, you name it.
There's probably going to be.
An official government like still trying to take over the take control of the country, like backed by NATO or whatever, or like AUKUS or something.
There's like white nationalist gangs.
Sorry to cut you off.
I do.
I've heard the white nationalist thing.
I feel like it's going to be way more specific on that because I feel like white nationalists don't even know how to work together.
No, no, you're right.
There's going to be like a million factions among them, too.
But if you look at prisons, it's probably like a microcosm of like how society would be if there's no rules anymore, probably.
So it might look something like that.
But I don't.
See, a lot of people think it would just be a race war.
And I don't think that's true.
I think that you're right, actually, because like.
This is actually something that happens in prison too.
White people are fighting each other.
Black people are fighting each other.
Latinos are fighting each other.
So specific coalitions will actually form between different gangs within different races to form coalitions against their own rivals within their own race or whatever.
I think it's definitely, and that's the nail on the head.
I feel like there's still going to be those material conditions.
I think it's going to be who owns the most food.
I think a lot more.
If there was a real, like one day will be, not even was.
It's going to happen.
We'll get closer and closer every day.
Like I'm very blackfilled on it.
It's we're this country is not getting better.
But when this movement happened, I feel a lot more Americans will suffer through, will suffer through hunger versus them getting shot at.
No, I straight up think a lot of people are going to perish.
And one of the things people are going to fight over is control over like these basic means of production, including land, you know?
like in every Civil War basically.
But um
I think it's much more realistic than people think, and it's not as dramatic as people think either.
It's not like some fantastical thing.
It's like there is still a sense of business as usual that happens.
It's just that who's in charge is no longer your sheriff or your local police.
It's like something else.
Right.
And I think people really can't fathom the possibility of that until it's actually going to happen.
And people are going to realize, wow, this is a lot more normal than I thought it would be.
It's essentially, it's like the Black Panthers.
Remember the Black Panthers were just in every corner of your neighborhood and you had free breakfast?
That's what it would feel like.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, it's not necessarily a bad thing.
That's actually the context in which I think communism will.
Establish itself as a power within this country, to be honest.
If we get our shit together, that is.
But I don't, yeah, no, I think if a civil war were to happen in this country, I think the biggest thing that I don't feel like it's often talked about by other Americans is that every country, every country with the right head on their shoulders, would take advantage of that moment.
Absolutely.
China would take California day one.
Mexico would take back Texas day one.
I don't, I see, I don't actually know about that.
I think what would happen probably is that the NATO would probably or AUKUS, something like that, would probably just like straight up intervene and a world war would break out if anyone else did, you know?
I think people need the US.
There's so much tension in Latin America.
I feel they would hop on that.
Now I'm sounding right-wing.
No, no, I mean, it's possible.
It's just like the U.S.
Empire is very outsourced.
A lot of it is overseas bases and assets and resources and like.
We created the EU.
We created NATO.
Like, we created all that kind of stuff.
And, like, the British Empire created us, you know, and they're gonna still we're your daddies, baby.
We made you.
Yeah, but I mean, if the when I say we, I mean like watching this, we said it.
Our our government did, and it's like if our government collapses, their their assets are gonna be used to take back what they, you know, what they think is theirs.
Against American citizens, probably, you know, that's an app no that you're laying down a true black bill.
When I talked about the Congo and I talked about these massive military movements, um, I had some people saying, like, I'm looking up uh U.S.
military interventions and I don't see the Congo.
And I have to tell them when you're talking about the United Nations military, let me be very clear.
That is the American military.
What troops does the United Nations have?
American forces.
You're talking about when you hear United Nations military has intervened in the Congo, read American soldiers have intervened into the Congo.
I mean, this is all optics.
It doesn't even necessarily have to be soldiers because
You know, everybody knows
How they overthrew Lamoomba, right?
If I'm pronouncing it correctly, yeah, and you hit the yeah, that was a straight up CIA coup with a collaborating with France, of course, but like, yeah, I mean, the the US, yeah, the idea the US doesn't have a presence in Congo is like crazy, you know, but um we we just have the McDonalds, you know.
Yeah, so do you you visit the Congo often or what?
Man, I'm trying to go again this year.
Like I said earlier, it's a really expensive trip.
I did third grade in the Congo.
All my siblings have gone.
A huge portion of my extended family is still there.
Of course, a large part of them are in Belgium and France.
But no, I imagine it's a very big country, and it's like.
The the the the places in it are like very varied, probably.
Like, I was gonna ask, is it dangerous?
But it's like I'm sure you probably went to a part that's more or less
Safe?
Uh, so my family's a Kachasa.
We're in the big city.
Uh, I come from a, yeah, we're all city folks.
So, uh, Kinshasa is one of the most expensive cities in the African continent.
It's an international city just because of the material resources.
When you go to Kinshasa, the biggest nightclubs are owned by Iranians, the best restaurants are in the Chinatown.
Um, it's it's it's yeah, it's no different than when you think of like the property planning in any other Western nation is that a lot of the biggest cities, a lot of the commercial cities are um are gonna benefit a lot if they're next to resources and water.
And Kinshasa happens to be next to the Congo River, and Kinshasa also happens to be the capital of the country with the most has to be the capital of the most resourced country in the world.
So, every capitalist has their hands in it and investment.
Um, you go to Kinshasa, you see product development is no different than America.
They're suburban communities, all lived in by massive white families because a lot of these companies they outsource a lot of their employees and they don't want their employees to be uh living too living too close to with the locals or they might find some sense of solidarity.
So, they'll build these large modern homes, um, contributing quote unquote to the taxes of the city, as they say, but that doesn't really happen.
Um, so yeah, uh, grow like how my parents grew up and how the people largely know that y'all grew up in Kachasa, the larger city life, but outside the country, I would definitely say, especially east side of the Congo, where most people hear about the conflict, that's essentially the wild west.
Okay, um, that's where most people hear about the conflict and the violence.
And I could say a lot of that stems largely from those U.S.
and European interventions.
Uh, people, you've seen the movie Hotel Rwanda, um, and people don't largely talk about the fact that uh countries like Rwanda and Uganda uh benefit from the conflict in the Congo because they're attacking the east side, they're getting these resources, and they have, and they and a large portion of Rwanda's Uganda's economy is the resource contracts that they have with places like France and with the United States, large parts of their large parts of their economy.
So, they have material, so they are incentivized to attack the east side of the Congo to quote unquote stop terrorism.
But what they're doing is essentially contributing to the dysfunction of the country.
And the Congo doesn't have any satellites, they don't have the ability to track all these attacks.
So, it's a country that's essentially just a country that's essentially just Kinshasa and a couple other modern city-states that don't have control of their own country because of foreign because of foreign powers.
So, yeah, I looked it up and it's like 17 million in Kinshasa, which is like crazy.
Yeah, it's a majority, biggest city, yeah.
Um.
But uh no, I mean, that's that's an example of how like basic law and order can break down, but business as usual can go on, you know, like
um, formally, you know.
It everything can be cool and even like in a regular life can can seem okay, but like in reality everything is chaotic, you know, I guess.
Uh formally chaotic.
Sorry, I got him reversed.
But uh anyway.
No, I think uh
So, you said you weren't born there, or yeah.
Uh, I was the first American in my family.
Um, as soon as, yeah, uh, I was conceived in the Congo, but as soon as my dad found out my mom was pregnant, he was like, that kid has to be an American.
Uh, but no, it was a good deal, it was a good deal.
Uh, but I have visited.
I implore anybody to visit, to visit Africa.
Uh, if your French is a little wonky, maybe go to Nairobi or like Cape Town.
But yeah, Katasa is a good time.
Have you been?
No, I actually haven't talked about this because it's kind of a spoiler.
But when we were in Russia, there was a window of there was a chance we were actually just going to go straight from Russia to South Africa.
Um,
to interview s a certain I don't want to spoil it 'cause it's like so out there.
It's like so out there, right?
But in the future it might be possible.
But we were actually discussing it and thinking about it.
And um, it could have happened.
I'm I'm not gonna lie, like it actually could have happened.
Um, but no, it it didn't, it fell through, it didn't happen, but um, no, we were, yeah, I was gonna, but.
We were just it just wasn't viable, wasn't feasible.
But I think if if I was gonna go somewhere in I d I don't I don't know, it's kinda unpredictable.
Like I could find myself in the Sahel for some reason to cover what's going on there.
Um, it just it just depends really for me, like, who I know over there.
You know?
And like, I d I don't think as a tourist I would just go by myself without knowing anyone, you know?
It it has to be work related, basically.
I think you'd find, especially the growing communist community in Africa, some of the most fun.
Oh, I've noticed.
Yeah, I've definitely been exposed to that.
When I talk to Africans, like communism is not shocking to them.
It just makes sense.
It makes sense.
Even if they're not communists, they've thought about it a lot, and it's one of the things that is just like considered one of the paths of development we can take.
And they've learned about it and they understand it.
And, you know, some might have some criticisms and nuances, but it's not like a foreign language, if that makes sense.
Like, Marxism is not a foreign language in Africa.
It's very much understood as like deeply part of the decolonization process historically and very much considered one of the viable paths Africa should take to develop itself.
Communism is very real.
I think, and I think a lot of Africans also know that the consequences are very real.
I think the large wall today is just that Western intervention.
It's like, look, Cuba and North Korea are not paradises.
Cuba, especially, I know it has a lot of problems, right?
We know about them.
But just being able to satisfy the basic needs of your population, ensure their security, their food security, their health, and educate them.
I mean, I feel like in the African context, that's a huge achievement.
You know, no, Cuba is an absolute dub to almost everybody in Africa.
Cuba is a shining example of not only being a couple miles, a couple nautical miles away from the heart of darkness, but surviving.
I think that's what I mean.
It's like, it's like highlight that for sure.
Like, it's that blockade.
When people are like, oh, communism doesn't work.
And it's like, well, I mean, there's places in Africa right now where like they don't, they can't even provide the basics for their people.
Their whole economy is owned by foreigners.
They literally have nothing.
Cuba would be a great start for a lot of countries.
Same with North Korea.
Like North Korea is not perfect.
Oh, yeah, you're sanctioned.
You're embargoed.
Yeah, that's really tough.
But it actually beats like being in grueling, life-threatening poverty where people are dying of malnutrition and disease and stuff, preventable disease.
So that's actually something.
Sorry, so sorry.
You said something that I wanted to mention with the Kinshasa context.
What you miss out on, for sure, there is a modern country, but what you miss out on because of these capitalist powers is that certain things like medicine or certain things like certain pharmaceuticals are made so much more difficult to gain or apprehend because there's just so much more of a so much more of a start class divide.
You don't get these other benefits and you're not allowed to build the infrastructure like Cuba has, for example, to have prevent if they can't, if Cubans can't get access to pharmaceuticals, then they'll have the best preventive care treatment in the world, which is what Cubans have done.
But the Congolese aren't even allowed to even be able to do that.
Yeah.
Sorry, I meant to mention.
No, yeah.
I mean,
You know, and people, you know, I don't know.
It's just for some reason, failures within Africa and economic.
Disasters are not considered failures of capitalism or imperialism.
But anytime there's, but because Cubans don't have iPads, that's a failure of socialism.
But if people in Africa are starving or if they're dying of preventable diseases and you know and there's so much strife, economic strife, and deep poverty, that's not a failure of capitalism.
Suddenly, we get into like pseudo pseudo, yeah, suddenly we get into the race.
This is what I had to argue with these right-wingers about.
Like, oh, yeah, they've always been poor.
They've never had anything.
Like, that's just, that's just how they are.
And it's like, okay, so when socialism isn't providing the same standard of living as like the upper middle class in a capitalist country, that's a failure of socialism.
But capitalism never fails because when it does fail, it's just that they're of an inferior racial stock.
It's so convenient.
It's a system that can never fail, right?
System that can only work for a certain few, but a successful system.
Yeah, I mean, when it fails, we somehow have an explanation.
But when it works, it's because of the system, you know?
Uh, and but socialism always fails because but Chi, but but when it succeeds, like in China, it's not actually socialism, it is capitalism.
Yeah, I love that argument.
If China is doing capitalism, why don't we just copy their capitalism?
No, that's too socialist, yeah, exactly.
That's yeah, that's such a brilliant way to put it.
Yeah, China's not socialist, China's capitalist.
All right, let's do these things that China does.
What are you talking about?
That's communism, that's crazy.
What are you talking about?
Yeah, that's living at that point.
Yeah, it's like China's capitalist until it comes time to have like 1% of China's policies.
Okay, China's capitalist.
So let's follow capitalist China's example and own all of the land publicly.
Let's follow China's example and have all of our natural resources and minerals and like mainstays of production owned by the state.
Let's do that.
Could you even imagine if we remotely had a similar political system to China?
China right now, the 3,000 member of China's central committee, 70% of them have farming backgrounds.
Could you even imagine us having a committee, a Congress that was 3,000 members strong, 70% of them were working class people?
That would blow an American.
But there's somehow like a ruthless, totalitarian, dystopian dictatorship.
But we're a democracy because we have Congress which is full of like billionaires and millionaires who can relate to the average American on zero things at all.
China like you mentioned, seventy percent.
In China's government, the part of the government you mentioned, from farming backgrounds.
We have nothing comparable to that here.
Literally nothing.
Not one thing.
I can't even think of a local city hall that has 70% of the matter of fact with a farming background.
Being a politician is literally a profession.
And part of the profession is getting bribed by the actual capitalist class.
And then we call this democracy.
It's actually hilarious.
Yeah, get your check somehow.
It's because we put so much morality into earning money.
If you have a lot of money, you're a good person.
No, but it's like it's literally legalized bribery and corruption.
And you mention it, and they're like, what are you talking about?
I'm a congressperson.
It comes with a job.
It's my job.
It's like, yeah, I work at Apple.
Yeah, I'm a Congress person.
I get bribed to pass policies that this company or this corporation wants.
And it's just like part of the job.
It's like my profession.
It's on my LinkedIn, you know?
It's the 70% we got.
It's not only that, but the average American couldn't even fundamentally understand the fact that China, they jail 40% of their billionaires.
Could you imagine how different our country would be if we jailed 40% of it would be a nine-day difference?
It'd be a different country.
To convince ourselves that America is better, we just changed how we describe reality.
So, for example, even though we have the highest prison per capita population in the world and probably in world history in the modern era, even more than Stalin's gulags in the 30s, if you didn't know that.
Uh, because we changed the words and we just were like, Yeah, it's just like we have a large um population of people in our correctional facilities, and you know, instead of calling them gulags or work camps like we call it in China or North Korea, we just say, Oh, yeah, it's just penal labor, you know, it's just part of the thing.
You know, we've changed the words, it's like, oh, but we have a deeply corrupt government that's bribed.
No, no, no, it's not bribery, it's just um campaign contributions, yeah, it's just lobbying, right?
And then we've changed, yeah, we've changed the words.
Uh, oh, you know, police are killing people.
Oh, it's just like the use of uh lethal force, we just we just change the fucking words, and then the reality changes too, you know.
That's basically my favorite is non-lethal force.
It's like this will kill you less.
I've always enjoyed that.
No, actually, when you think about it, our sense of freedom is just tied to consumption and nothing else.
This is why Americans are so deeply ignorant.
We are free in most people's minds intuitively because we can consume so many different things.
But little do we know that in China, the range of what you can consume is broader, actually.
They have more free, if that's what freedom is to you.
China is a million times more free than the U.S.
They literally have everything we have in terms of products, but more and better.
And people are like, what about censorship?
And it's like, censorship is a formality in China.
Okay.
You can get any movie, any TV show, any video game, literally anything you want.
It's there in China.
And it's a same ditto with Russia, too, actually, right?
It's available.
That formality point is fire.
It's a formality because America exists.
It's because China understands the material conditions and understands that if America has access to one of the growing information networks of human history, they will take advantage of that 100%.
Yeah, I mean, no, they're talking about the TikTok ban.
See, it's mainly a formality because they're just establishing that we consider our information a sphere of sovereignty, our information sphere.
So if you really want and you're a Chinese citizen, you want to go use Twitter or YouTube, you can.
You can, but.
It's just one extra step, which is you just put a VPN on your phone.
It's not hard at all.
I I use Nord VPN in Russia.
It's 'cause they ban Twitter in Russia's Wi-Fi and it's just like literally a button you press.
Or it comes loaded onto the usually it comes loaded on the SIM card anyway, right?
The VPN.
But but most people don't use it.
See, see, this is what people don't understand about China's censorship.
It's not actually even preventing access.
It's more how apps are used within China and how those are optimized.
So I'll give you an example of this.
Because most stores
And most places that deliver products to your front doors are tied to a specific app that leads people to use that app more because it's just more ingrained with how your life is.
It's not because you can't access other products or websites.
You can, you can actually, you can, but they're just not as integrated in China's economy and everyday life as the other apps are, right?
And so, like, China's social media platforms are all sovereign, they're all made in China, right?
And
one of the ways that that was able to be established was the kind of early system of Internet control that the the government decided to implement, which was like, we're going to kick start this so people use these platforms more once that precedent is established.
Nobody cares if you go use Twitter.
You don't want to use Twitter because everyone's on WeChat.
You know, everyone's on.
Sorry, WeChat's not exactly it.
It's.
What's the one that they use in China?
I thought it was WeChat.
There's another one, too.
It's called their Twitter.
I'm blanking because I'm dieting big time.
So my brain power has been reduced by a lot.
It's like, it's called.
Something with a W, I think.
Weibull, yeah.
Check out it, right?
Weibull, yeah.
Waywool.
And um
No, I mean everything's effectively censored here anyway, because if you're a dissident enough, you just get censored, deplatformed.
So it's literally the same thing.
And you know, have you dealt with any censorship issues on TikTok at all?
Because I know Eddie has.
Um, I'm very careful.
With I've been on the internet a long time, um, and snaking through community guidelines is, I would say, one of my specialties.
Um, the modern political spectrum series, it's a TikTok series that most people actually know me from.
Uh, I'm I crafted that series with the idea of getting around community guidelines.
Um, because they can't, I'm like, why would you ban this video?
I'm not saying for what for what the far left person said, or for what the far?
Oh, it's like what J Reg does on YouTube, basically, exactly, exactly.
Yeah, um, and I understand the uh why even J Reg did that because it's it exposes hypocrisy of these community guidelines, they don't really care what people say, they don't care, they just care if they can get in trouble for it, yeah, and they don't want to get caught for being biased.
So, the political spectrum, having everybody being in one video, uh, snakes around those community guidelines inherently.
Um, so that's yeah, that's how I get away the censorship.
Okay, nice, yeah, that's really cool.
Um, no, I mean, it's a big issue we've dealt with.
We've I've also learned how to get around it and know what to say.
I got, I was, I began uh big on Twitch, somewhat big, and then I got banned about a year into it.
No, I'm sorry, yeah, one year into it, I got banned because I was apparently because an NGO in Washington.
Claimed that I was a Kremlin disinformation agent with no evidence.
The Financial Times picked the story up, then contacted Twitch.
Twitch got scared, and then I got banned, you know?
And it's funny how that works.
It's like, you know, obviously there's no.
There's no cons that's one of the reasons this website, Kik, was made, is because like Twitch.
I know Kick is a free-for-all or whatever, but like Twitch literally is the biggest.
the most corrupt streaming platform ever in terms of how they implement rules.
It's like this random woman named Katie Paul just attached a photo of my stream, captioned it Kremlin disinformation agent.
And that somehow was evidence.
There was literally nothing else.
It was like, oh, he's repeating arguments that Russia also makes.
So what?
They're my arguments.
If Russia happens to reason in the same way that I do about this, it's like, well, I actually agreed with them.
I think they're correct.
Am I not allowed to?
So, what does it mean to be a what does it mean to be a Kremlin agent?
Could you imagine if we had this much, if we if people had this much vitriol for people who were clear agents for the United States government?
Could you imagine?
Like, oh, yeah, this guy obviously is feds.
How come we don't say that enough?
Like, I feel like we hover between we hover between these midline of glorifying and hating the FBI, but we never fully commit to one or the other.
It's so confusing to me, my man.
So confusing.
It's literally just an excuse to clamp down on dissent.
But you know, I'm actually reading here.
I got mentioned by the ADL today.
Can you link that?
I, I, today I did, or was it the older one where they said, uh, because I accused, I accused the Zionist lobby of being related to the TikTok ban?
Whether they are they did they do that whole classic article write-up saying this person is not only a racist but a homophobe but a sexual deviant?
Adia loves that stuff.
I didn't I didn't see that.
Um
I've seen them exp uh, if you have an OnlyFans, they'll find it.
ADL loves finding OnlyFans accounts with people.
Can we um
Wasn't from today.
Okay, it was from the March 20th one.
Yeah, that's an older one.
I almost got excited.
I thought there was a new one.
You almost got excited, you said it's hilarious.
Yeah, but they basically said that I'm a conspiracy theorist or something, which I don't think it's implausible at all because Jonathan Greenblatt literally said we have a TikTok problem because a lot of people are getting educated about Palestine through TikTok.
So
Have you have you covered that at all on TikTok, or is it too risky?
Oh, uh, no, hell yeah.
No, I've um unfortunately I've had a couple friend relationships suffer uh because of what I've said about Israel and Palestine.
No way.
It's which is weird because I'm not remotely seeing anything close to what like shouts out to Eddie.
He's going ham.
Um, shout out to also, um, what's his name?
What's his name?
Uh, I was just literally just on his TikTok.
Uh, James, political James.
He's absolutely crushing in terms of content.
Oh my God, I feel so bad that I'm not jumping on it.
Yeah, I feel like the TikTok ecosystem is so different from YouTube and Twitter and Twitch.
It's like very self-contained, you know.
James gets political.
James gets political.
He's doing great on the Israel-Palestine content.
But yeah, I did a political spectrum.
I talked about the hypocrisy of Mark Hamill being pro-Israeli when Luke Skywalker was a bona fide galactic terrorist fighting the U.S.
fighting the empire, fighting like he was doing, he was literally doing kamikaze runs.
But yeah, that's pretty much the gist of what I said.
Yeah.
Um.
Uh did y so you mentioned you wanted to talk about
Um
Pan Africanism, was it?
Uh, yeah, um, I was enjoying, I was enjoying the tandems that were going on, but uh, for those who aren't really awake, Pan-Africanism is connecting the undying third line between a lot of African cultures and those of the Black diaspora, Black diaspora being Black people of the Americas, the Europe's Caribbean, and including North, West, East, and South Africa.
Uh, it's a concept largely pushed by a lot of black civil rights movements, Kwame Ture, uh, uh, Kwame Nakrumah, um, Thomas McArra.
Uh, I'd say it's has a key difference between Pan-Africanism's Afro-centrality is not only its inclusion of North of the North African into the diaspora, but the establishment of a more Marxist materialist thought on uh really recognizing the third line between all these cultures being colonialism and the defining moments of and understanding the defining moments, the defining moment of recognizing that third line is establishing a line of solidarity.
Uh, that is Pan-Africanism in a nutshell.
I hope I gave a good summary for everybody listening.
Okay.
Yeah, that yeah, that was pretty much um that was pretty much the that was pretty much the gist.
Uh
In terms of pan-Africanism, in our current talks of the Congo, what's going to happen in the Sahel, what's going on with Niger, it's
When Pan-Africanism was being talked about with Nakrumah when he was having his talks with Patrice Mumba, he imagined a united Africa with the Congo being the capital, recognizing the Congo's importance, material importance to Western powers, but the Congo's importance as the resource center of the continent.
So, why is Pan-Africa important?
That's why it's important.
All right.
No, I mean, it's important because if we're talking about a strategy to overthrow American imperialism and the global capitalist system.
Africa is literally a center the center of the chessboard basically, you know.
Um because I mean I I don't know anything about chess, so the center me might not mean anything, but it's basically um fundamental to that system because of its resources.
And as we're seeing with the French colonial system being overthrown in West Africa,
The African Revolution will change the world.
It will change the balance of power.
It will.
Um, accelerate the destruction of what we call the global American hegemony, you know?
I absolutely agree.
But in a lighter note, I'm making a.
Have you ever played a TTR RPG before, my man?
Is that text text-based?
Uh, tabletop RPG.
Oh, okay, okay.
No, no, I haven't.
Uh, yeah, uh, it's like Warhammer basically, right?
Is Warhammer considered a TT RPG?
I don't know.
I know it's like tabletop something.
I know they have the models and stuff, but I never understood the difference.
I'm doing a Pan-African TTRPG.
That's going to be cool.
Okay, nice.
Wow.
So you said it's an RPG.
Is it like, what is that?
DND.
Okay, okay, cool.
Wow.
Think DD, but Pan-Africanism.
That's kind of like my big Steeze right now.
Talk to me.
Is it like fantasy-based or?
Yeah, fantasy-based.
I got places called Makrumah's Haven into the world.
Okay, cool.
So you're like making the figures yourself?
No, the whole thing started from these TikTok videos I was doing, just talking about creatures from African mythology.
Oh, cool.
Okay.
Yeah.
And I just got really excited about the idea of world creating this place where it was North, West, East, South Africa, the Caribbean, Black Americas, Black European myth, folktales all merged into this huge fantasy world.
And I thought it'd be a nice change of pace to, I have it like time settings set in like the 17th, 18th century.
But I thought it would be nice to have a cool cultural center, like a fantasy world versus like, I don't know, the black trauma porn that we have in mass media most of the time.
I want something fun.
Yeah, I saw something interesting on Twitter.
And, you know, I guess my opinion doesn't matter all that much, but someone was like.
You know, one of the interesting things about Black History Month, it was like a black person saying this.
They were like, It's kinda like you had an X that's like constantly reminding you, like, Hey, remember the time I cheated on you?
I like lost focus for a second.
Yeah, I turned around.
No, they were like, they were like, when it comes to all the trauma porn and even Black History Month, they were like, it's literally like having a partner or an ex constantly text you all the time like, hey, remember the time I cheated on you?
Sorry about that.
And it's like, you don't really like always.
I still feel like I'm missing something.
No, it's like you don't always want to be reminded of how you've been done dirty because it like pisses you off, basically.
Okay, I feel you, bro.
Okay.
Especially when it's like you're being reminded by the person who did it to you, basically.
You get what I'm saying?
No, no, I get what you're saying.
I get what you're saying.
I'm just, I'm just, I'm, I'm slow to the ri.
That's just what I read.
I just thought it was interesting.
It was like, oh, that's an interesting way of looking at it.
Uh, okay, so I just found your kick.
I found the actual kick channel.
I don't know what I was, I was hovering your Twitter.
I'm like, how is he doing this?
Yeah, I'm loving your chat right now.
These guys are hilarious.
Yeah, this guy says, That's why the slave movies are kind of for white people, which I very much 100% agree.
Slave movies are for white people.
Yeah, I never think to myself, Wow, I cannot wait to watch that slave, except for Django Unchained.
Actually, I'm bullshitting.
Django Unchained is like my favorite movie of all time.
If someone were to ask me, Malumbo, what movie would you write?
What movie encompasses your hopes and dreams?
What movie, what movie encompasses your fears?
It would be Django Unchained.
Django Unchained is the goat movie, and it pisses me off to this day, to this day, that a white man like Quentin Tarantino made it.
I'm just like, damn, he got the white people.
We can't have anything.
I can't even have my superhero slave movie.
Have you ever heard that thing Kanye West said where he was like, um, he was like, My dad was a Black Panther, and then now when you look up Black Panther, you just see like a Marvel movie, and like he was like, that's kind of like intentional.
What do you think about that?
He was like, my dad was a Black Panther, and like, this is something like not a lot of people know about, but like, there was this group that was like organizing communities to defend themselves and like empower people or whatever.
And then he's like, now when you look up Black Panther on Google, it's like the first results that come up is like some like superhero movie made by Marvel.
Damn, D take, deep cut.
That's crazy.
That's actually, it reminds me of like when the BLM protests were happening and people were doing the black, the black post.
But when people did that, you couldn't find protests anymore when you did the hashtags.
Yeah, yeah.
That's crazy.
That was something that was super co-opted, like very quickly.
The feds got on that real quick and they were like, all right, we're going to know exactly how to neutralize this.
That's fucking insane.
That's crazy.
When you look up Black Panther, you.
I never, yeah, and it's like, why am I having my mind blown right now?
How goes it?
Yeah, because you know, you think about it, because I was like when that movie came out, I was like, I understand it was always a Marvel character, but it's like, why is there no connection being made to like actual Black Panthers?
Like, because it's kind of the same name, and I'm like, oh, it's to like basically co-opt and erase that name, erase the reference of that name to the actual history.
Because when you think about it, the legacy of the Black Panthers was crushed.
It was a huge thing in America.
And then their leaders were either killed or they were corralled by the FBI to be psyoped.
And it was just totally disbanded and totally devastated.
Actually, a lot of gangs.
Trace their origin to the Panthers, actually.
No, you're saying you're dropping bars right now.
Like the bloods and encrypts all come from the destruction of black fraternal community, a black, of black fraternal organization, the barbarized communities.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And it's like, um,
But like people forget people think that like oh like yeah black people just have these gangs because they're criminals and it's like well no there was this like whole history of like this spontaneous form of political power that formed I don't know if I'd call it spontaneous because it was intentional obviously there was a lot of theory behind it but it's like it was this this was actually like a political project with a political vision motivated by an ideology like a Marxist Leninist ideology and principle without which it wouldn't have formed right
And people really forget about that.
Like the Black Panthers were actually American communists.
They were in an organic, homegrown American communist form of power.
And it is literally the foundation.
It is like a fundamental, it is such a foundational part of.
Not only American history, but the history of the black community, but it's like been repressed.
And now that these gangs that were that originated from the destruction of that organization, their origins are totally forgotten.
You know, like that it wasn't actually originally about crime and like just cynically making money for its own sake.
It was actually like a
It had actual, like, a spiritual dimension of like, this is an ideological cause, this is a movement, you know.
No, um, you're right.
I it does blow my, I feel like that has changed, though.
I feel like a lot more people are coming into because we had Judas and the Black Messiah, where Fred Hampton in the first five minutes has established the fact that we need to fight capitalist socialism.
Um, but maybe that's also like this weird thing that's happening with Hollywood, where every big blockbuster Hollywood movie is suddenly using leftist language.
Like the Barbie movie mentioned fascism.
Like, I don't know what's going on there.
Yeah, I think they're co-opting it and using it in like twisted ways to like imply the opposite meaning.
You know, it's kind of what it seems.
Oh, so when people think fascism, they just think of Will Farrow's Will Farrow's goofy character.
Not only that, if they think fascism, they like think like, even the way it was described, it was like fascism is like the government control of foreign commerce.
And I'm like, commerce.
And I'm like, wait a second, control of commerce is good.
How is that fascist?
You know?
You remember that scene where she says that?
She's like, she's like, well, she called me a fascist.
I'm not in control of commerce and the trains or whatever.
And I'm like, huh?
Is that what happened?
I feel like I have like this.
I feel like I have a Russian fail safe in my brain where if I hear a wrong definition of fascism, like that moment just stops existing.
Yeah, no, I mean, I feel like one of the things people did is basically like.
convince American people that like fascism actually means
The opposite, and actually, like, it's it's what they describe as fascism is, like, just like authoritarian countries like Cuba or North Korea, China.
And when you have your shit in order, like, that's fascist.
If you're like disciplined, that's fascist.
If you, like, don't, you know, if you don't want
your infrastructure to fail, that's fascist.
And they've tried to convince people that
That's fascism instead of how communists were describing it at the time, which is the terroristic dictatorship of the most aggressive sections of the imperial bourgeoisie.
It's like no, fascism is actually like this real thing where like, you know, these big banks and cartels
were resorting to criminal and violent means to preserve their power.
Because democracy couldn't do it anymore.
what's uh what's your what's your go-to like swift definition of fascism and i'll give you mine it's it's from the commenter and by dimitroff and it's basically um fascism is the movement
is rooted in the um the most reactionary
Uh, chauvinistic, it's a terroristic movement rooted in the most reactionary and chauvinistic sections of the imperialist bourgeoisie.
Oh shit, that was my definition.
No, uh, it's it's essentially fascism is essentially capitalism, but no bullshit.
It's saying it's saying you know the real thing out loud.
We already jailed black people by the thousands.
Now the guy's gonna say, hey, we're gonna actually jailing black people by the thousands.
It's just not being bullshit.
We basically live in a fascist state, but we just use different words, so it's all good, basically.
Business as usual.
Yeah, it's all good.
I mean, we live in a fa yeah, I mean, the FBI is gonna come.
Just like they did with the Uhuru guys.
If you post a Facebook meme they don't like, they're gonna raid your house, throw you in jail.
Throw the whole book at you in court and prosecute you.
Basically, destroying your free speech and crushing dissent illegally and arbitrarily.
But it's not fascism because like we just kind of like call it something different, I guess.
I feel like we've been, I feel like we've been a fascist nation most of the time.
And all the dope parts were when it was kind of like capitalism, but really socialism.
Like we think about the 40s that was kind of oh, with the 40s fire?
What era of America do Americans consider fire?
It's like the 70s, right?
The 70s were fire.
Yeah, 70s were fired because we had that new deal trekking in all that prosperity, all that money, the vision, the civil rights.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean uh
I thi yeah, nostalgia's a big thing in this country and 'cause you have nothing else to go by.
But uh
Are you nostalgic?
Are you nostalgic for the past?
No.
Not really.
Not really.
Let's go.
Let's just go thinking.
Let's just go fully forward and just get on with it.
Go through with it.
You know?
Because every attempt to mimic the past ends up being a pathetic failure, and I cringe out.
Like, there was a new wave of 80s nostalgia in the late 2010s.
And everyone is like, oh, I want to I want to authentically replicate the experience of the 80s.
And it's like, this is, I could, I see the desperation of your nostalgia in the work itself, and it's not working.
This is not actually what the 80s was.
It's almost like the tragedy of the commons.
Anytime we try to.
Even movie look, look, even the Star Wars movies, which I didn't watch, I just watched scenes of them.
I don't know if you agree with me on this, but it's like I watched a few scenes of the new Star Wars, and the first thing that struck me, because everyone was complaining about how much it deviated, and I was like, wait, wait, wait.
Um, this isn't deviating.
This is literally.
Like trying to reproduce the special effects from the 80s or 70s movies, the sound effects, the CGI, and I'm like, this looks very retro, actually.
It's very, very retro.
And then I'm like, you look at the prequels.
From the two thousands, those were not retro.
Those were like like him or hate him, but like that was a that was a new vision of sci-fi that George Lucas was building.
And I l I looked at some scenes of the new ones and I'm like, it's so retro.
It's so like, it's so filled with like fan service and nostalgia.
And I'm like, I do not like this at all, you know?
I haven't seen the new Star Wars.
I stopped watching after I tried watching that new one, The Force Awakens, but as soon as they didn't give the black guy the lightsaber and wasn't a jet, I knew they catfished me.
I'm like, these motherfuckers, because I saw the trailer, I saw black guy with the lightsaber.
I'm like, let's go, Mace Windu 2.0.
No, Mace, they knew it.
See, a lot of people talk about like bitches.
I'm so angry to this day.
See, a lot of people talk about like inauthentic woke culture for representation, but I'm like, you know, in the prequels, Mace Windu did not feel forced.
Like, he even had a purple lightsaber because he asked for like that.
It didn't feel forced at all.
Yeah.
To this day, they George Lucas does not understand how many black people immediately liked Star Wars as soon as they thought Star Wars was so lame.
I was in community.
Every black person thought Star Wars was super, super lame.
Oh, except for Lando Calaristian.
Yeah.
Calaristian was still.
But he was like, he was like barely, he was barely in it, you know.
But then you see Samuel Jackson coming in with the bald head, the purple lightsaber.
He might as well have a Black Panther fist.
Yeah, I know.
It made sense, you know.
But I don't want to, I'm not trying to look back with rose-tinted glasses, but it's like, also, if we're going to do the nostalgia thing, can we like start accelerating?
Like, okay, now it's 90s.
Like, let's do nostalgia for the 2000s now.
I'm kind of sick of the 80s.
If we, it has to be nostalgia, and no one can be creative about like making anything new.
But we're barely into 90s nostalgia.
What is 90s nostalgia, really?
I'm still trying to.
I actually have a kind of theory of this.
It's like 80s nostalgia is like a nostalgia for like.
Almost a kind of like darkness with neon lights and it's like all cyber and it's like it's like very um it's a nostalgia for the celebration of inauthenticity and how there's some kind of new freedom we gain from this inauthenticity like the new you know this new technologies and the the the rise of the information age and the cyber space or whatever it's all very much like unlocking the innermost freedom for us to pursue our desires i kind of find it a little grotesque but then the 90s is like this new authenticity it's like
90s is like, okay, let's return to normal.
Let's like wear blue jeans, I guess, instead of this wacky 80s stuff.
And it's very outdoorsy.
That's another thing about the 90s.
It's very, it's always like you always look at 90s, like music videos and like culture, and it's like always about the beach.
And it's about being outside in the summer or something.
I don't know.
I never liked that.
The 80s wave.
I don't like the 90s.
I look forward to the 90s.
I do.
Big jeans are fire.
Yeah.
I miss Simpsons wave.
Where's the Simpsons nostalgia?
Yeah, I kind of like Family Guy more, though, to be honest.
Whoa.
No, I mean, look, look.
Peter.
Whoa.
It's a tape.
Here's why.
Because Peter Griffin by himself is comedy.
If you just look at how he's drawn, it's immediately funny.
Then how he talks, it's like.
It's already takes the W.
okay okay if we're gonna do okay if we're gonna do a talk about the best cartoon sitcom it's gotta be american dad i actually i never watched it but what american dad probably started me on the road to communism because i was like because they had a character there was a character i think that was right i would say even the yeah there there's a main character the main character works for the fbi cia i know he works for the intelligence community but i had a growing up i had a friend uh i went to a catholic private school um and one of the one of my dad's friends worked in the intelligence community he acted so much like stan in just his day-to-day that before watching american dad i thought him being in the television community was kind of like that uncle who worked in nintendo oh i have an uncle that works in nintendo you know what i mean he can get you all the like the cheat codes after watching american dad i'm like holy that mother this dumbass this dumbass actually works for the intelligence community i could actually see this dumbass working for the intelligence community like like the two and two together um yeah yeah yeah cartoon real life moment cartoon real life moment but uh
No, I I hate to cut it short, but I think we're kind of approaching so it's almost 10.
Yeah.
No, this was a good time, Haas.
I'm gonna I gotta eat this pesto and pasta with the water.
Yeah, I gotta eat you.
Thank you for letting me on.
No, for sure, man.
It was good having you on.
Appreciate it.
Is there goodbyes?
If you want to shout anything out, you know, any kind of social media, anything at all.
Uh, easy.
Hey guys, uh, hey, Malumbo, follow me at all my socials at hey underscore Malumbo.
Uh, not only can I yap for hella long about politics and a whole bunch of other tangents, I also make trap music.
Check me out on Spotify, I make super eccentric pop music, just like my personality.
Centric, bubbly as fuck.
Let's go, let's go.
Uh, I'll see you guys on the next podcast stream kick if they have me on.
All right, see you later.
For sure, man.
See you later.
Deuces.
See ya.
Alright.
All right, guys, thank you, Juzan.
Appreciate you, man.
Rest in power, Moamar Qaddafi.
True.
Factual.
So, um,.
Yeah, I think he was a cool he was a cool dude.
And, you know, I feel like he's like a normal dude, you know?
Which sounds crazy to say, but it's like in our sphere, we're just so used to encountering just like crazy personalities, whether good or bad.
Usually bad.
But, you know, I feel like he's a good example of just like a normal person, you know, just a chill dude.
And I appreciate.
how he can simultaneously be invested in a lot of these ideas and you know, we probably don't agree on everything, but he's like invested in this kind of like perspectives and ideas, simultaneously also a normal person rather than like an anti-social freak who's like, you know, like on some insanity psychopathic, you know.
So, yeah, I you know, that's that's what I would say.
But, um
Yeah.
Uh so guys, tomorrow I'm going to be
Peering on that
Rattlesnake T V
Um 2 PM Eastern.
And there's a few things I did want to talk about today.
Wallo, what's going on, man?
Thank you so much.
The Iranian embassy, right.
Iran is threatening retaliation.
I'm not sure what form that's going to take.
Also Russia at the UN has condemned Israel's strike.
Also keep in mind that it was in Syria.
The strike happened in Syria, so that's a big big factor in um why that would happen.
But guys, um
I wanna I wanna talk to the community about some things.
I want you guys to continue the clip game big time because Rev's clip actually did pretty well.
When you're choosing what clip,
Remember the things that you find the most persuasive.
that you feel like a mass audience would relate to though.
Just use common sense basically.
Toplop has a software for AI to use clips, by the way.
And they will go viral, whether you're putting them on TikTok or Twitter.
We need an all out drive for clips.
And I'm putting a memo out there for that.
Um
We need to step up our clip game.
And you guys, I don't know how seriously you take this, so I'm going to explain it to you.
Um
Let me explain this to you, all right?
Nobody knows or is nobody is gonna know or care about what infrared is if you don't clip and show them through clips, not 10-hour videos, clips, okay?
Clips are how people, and I'm not just talking about one clip or two clips.
The clips have to be so persistent and so regular that people see people start getting accustomed to seeing them regularly, and then and only then will people actually like take infrared seriously and like investigate deeper and watch our YouTube videos and read our stuff.
But nobody is gonna care about infrared if you're not clipping aggressively like every other political community does, okay?
So let me just clarify that.
You guys do a good job.
On X and on social media, but infrared is not ever going to grow if you're not aggressively on the clip game.
No, you don't need permission to post clips.
You literally don't need permission at all.
Um, no, don't send them to your put them on social media.
You don't have to send them to your family.
If you want, you can, but.
There's no political community that can grow without clips, all right?
Um and and pay attention to that.
You know, I I I I I'm getting a little worried sometimes, guys, because I always have people ask me, Haz, when is the organization coming out?
When is the organization?
Well, we need to pr before you worry about it is coming.
Within months, but how are we going to have an organization if there's not even a competence at the level of what we do on the internet?
You know, if you're looking for something to do, clips, okay?
Period.
If you're so have so much, I want to join an organization.
All right.
In the meantime, you could be really, you could help out a lot through aggressively clipping the streams.
Um
And yes, that makes a huge difference.
Like, that's night and day, you know?
Makes a huge difference, actually.
Uh.
Another thing I wanted to say is uh
I forgot, so I'll just tell you Thursday when I remember it.
I'm kinda very lightheaded and
Very hungry.
Guys, I think I'll see you Thursday.
Been a good stream.
Been a good stream.
Say hi to Slicker for me.
Bye, guys.