UKR-RUSSIA TRUTH (EXPOSING DISINFO) / EMPIRE OF LIES [2022-04-06] 🚀 Infrared Content Catalog

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what's up guys

hopefully today we have enough time for

uh rp

but uh we got a lot of serious things to

cover

so i initially told you guys this at the

very beginning

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and i said we're approaching that duma

moment

in the conflict

within ukraine

uh i told you that um

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i told you this was

because

of the course of the operation right

but also we're looking at

you know a a week or two ago we have

this just bombshell reports

and just un you know unfettered flow of

evidence of these horrific crimes

being committed by the ukrainian

military

and by the azole battalion

and the the media didn't even [ __ ]

report on it it wasn't even covered

and then immediately after

we start seeing these allegations of

what russia is supposedly allegedly

doing in buka

but i've been thinking about this a lot

you know

and

we need to draw a positive

and objective conclusion

from this empire of lies because let's

face it it's a [ __ ] empire of lies

and

you guys know it i know it we keep

deepening and exposing the truth to as

many people as we can we'll continue to

do that right don't get me wrong we'll

continue to do that

but

how do you live life in a world of lies

or i should say

how do you make

sense of

a world of lies an empire of lies how do

you make sense of that right

how do you have a sense of normal

objective reality

you know because most people who find

out the level of truth that we do right

they go insane

because they cling to the fact that this

is a world of lies and it it doesn't

allow them to see the truth

in the lie

right

um

full disclosure it's been pretty tough

for me

uh i've lost i told you guys this i lost

a lot of friends

i've lost a lot of friends and

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i've been exiled from the mainstream in

a way that

you know i haven't before

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but i don't want to commit i don't want

to resign myself to a you know a brand

of of bitterness

and spite

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so we got to get smart we got to get

wise we gotta draw a positive conclusion

from all this right

we have to draw some kind of conclusion

from this [ __ ]

that keeps us sane and keeps us in

reality somehow right

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you know what we're seeing with these

allegations about the russians is pretty

scary

because without denying them all

together which i don't think i'm allowed

to do

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they bear a very

very uncanny resemblance

to the allegations against the soviet

and russian soldiers um

you know during whether that's during

the russian civil war whether that's

during

the winter war

in finland whether that's during world

war ii whether that's um

hungary in 56 or czechoslovakia in

68

the pattern of the way in which russians

are depicted

is always somehow consistent right it's

always this

and it always works you know it always

has this effect of working and uh

the really scary thing

about

this level of propaganda is that

most people are equipped

to analyze assess and criticize

propaganda at the surface level of

factual claims

but

where propaganda actually has an effect

on changing reality is metaphysical it's

at the level of

your comprehension of the world at this

deeper level of the unconscious right

what do i mean by that

um

sometimes

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it's really hard to believe sometimes

that russians whether historically or in

the contemporary sense

aren't guilty

of these crimes

it's like a stretch right

uh we think somehow unconsciously that

russians are

you know

they must not have any humanity or

morality or

sense of civilization

and

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it's so outlandish and unreasonable to

think that they wouldn't be committing

these horrific atrocities

just because of the fact that you know

for some metaphysical reason that

they're out there beyond

the threshold of the western world order

they're beyond our sense of human rights

they're beyond our sense of

democracy our specific sense of

humanitarianism so certainly the

russians must be complete barbarians and

savages who have absolutely no sense of

civilization

or morality of their own

the really hard thing for people to

accept

is that russians

have their own civilization and they

have their own morality

because

the nato ideology right the um the

ideology of the neo-nazis of the

contemporary era the nazis who fled

justice after world war ii and got into

the highest ranks of power

within the deep states of western

countries and and you know

totally infiltrated

the ideology of the cold war against the

soviets right

and they're still here they've been here

this whole [ __ ] time

we think that there's only western

civilization everyone beyond that is

barbaric so if they don't follow our

specific norms and they don't follow our

specific sense of morality they must be

totally wild and savage barbarians

but what's the grain of truth in that

guys and this is why this is the this is

the key to the empire of lies right

it's because that's us

we're projecting our unconscious

truth on them

when we take away our veneer of laws and

order

we become savages

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i i i'm willing to bet that the most

serial killers in the world who like tie

people to chairs and torture them and

stuff come from america i'm willing to

bid that uh to bet on that

because we think the only thing

separating us

we unconsciously in the west we have

unconscious perversions

we have an unconscious desire to do

bad evil things right

and whenever we apparently whenever we

get an opportunity to do that we do it

right

so we assume that because they don't

have our laws

and they don't have our

civilization they don't have our

specific um institutions

that they're just as evil rotten and

demonic as we are they're just as wicked

and evil as we are in the core of our

hearts and in the core of our

being you know

the one of the differences between me

and other content creators

is that

i actually understand both perspectives

i understand the western perspective

very very well

and i understand the eastern perspective

i understand both i understand how both

work

and by the way

it's not necessarily true that the

western one is wrong

right both of them contain

a level of truth to them

it's just that

it seems to me that the western

perspective

cannot tolerate any recognition that

there's another perspective like i

understand the western civilization but

it just seems to me that within the

frame of mind of our western world

we don't tolerate the possibility that

there can be another perspective right

it's just our perspective or you're an

evil tanky shill and you're just a bad

person right and that's why i've lost uh

you know

a lot of people judge me as this

horrible bad person

just because i'm trying to give

expression to the other perspective

right because people don't want to

acknowledge there's another perspective

and when i say things like

you know it's starting to devolve into a

level of racist

uh i don't know what else to [ __ ]

call it savage

uh

depictions of russians and just this

kind of neo-nazi thing oh there's

something wrong with russians and their

blood the russians have always been like

this we need to destroy the russian

state i mean

i mean you got to understand what that

is that's a genocidal

you're basically entertaining a

genocidal view that was shared by the

nazis right

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so that that's what it seems to me to be

kind of a problem i do understand uh

both both perspectives i understand the

western perspective i understand the

eastern perspective

right the western perspective is kind of

like um

you know from the western perspective

this is what it is basically right it's

like

we live in a world of total depravity

total wild evil right

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and the only way

we can safeguard ourselves from that

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is by becoming that evil right

we can only safeguard ourselves from the

evil of the world

by

partaking in some kind of evil ourselves

in the form of you know

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it's like this passion of nihilism that

defines the west the world is totally

depraved evil and meaningless

but the very acknowledgement of this

fact into consciousness

gives us our morality and gives us our

humanity so this is the western

perspective i'm not trying to hate the

west

demonize the west

or attack the west i'm trying to

allow you a perspective into

understanding how the western mind works

and i'm not saying it's wrong even i'm

just saying this is the western view

which is not shared by the rest of the

world so i'll explain to you the western

view right

the western view

since maybe ancient greece maybe this

goes deep and maybe it's not totally

wrong maybe something from it can be

salvaged right

but here it is right

the world is completely

meaningless it's a mean metaphysic it's

total meaninglessness of the world right

um

it's completely meaningless empty

or

on the obverse since chaotic world

totally meaningless totally depraved

totally evil totally wicked right

but then the western view begins this

way it says when we have consciousness

of this fact

when we acknowledge this fact

there begins morality when we

acknowledge that

we can actually for the first time be

moral

individuals be moral subjects right we

can be moral

because then we can say

here we are right we're witnessing this

totally evil depraved world and then

we're here

and our mutual recognition of this fact

right is the beginning and end of an

ability to have a sense of right and

wrong the world is evil but we as

subjects

are the source of good

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so that's the western view right it's

based on this idea that

the world is inherently bad

but

that's not the non-western view you have

to understand the non-western

view is that

thank you uh

taiwan thank you

the eastern view or the view of people

outside of the west more or less

is that

to say the world is meaningless is

arrogant it's not meaningless

it's particular there's a particular

truth

to reality it has a particular form a

particular truth

uh i shouldn't even say form i should

say it has a particular symptom

and to respond to the calling of this

symptom

which takes the form of our ancestors

which takes the form

of our duty before our our fathers and

our forefathers and our ancestors

through some kind of maybe a state or a

religion or whatever you want

it's this view that there's something

specific about reality

right

and that's the source of morality it's

not us and our recognition

of the world being evil

our sense of morality comes from a

prohibition

that is inscribed in the past

and

also not just the past but in reality in

the real itself

metaphysically right

and it seems to me

that these two perspectives between the

western perspective

and the eastern perspective are not

commensurate there's just something so

radically incompatible about these

perspectives

and if you understand these perspectives

you'll see the russian perspective

you'll see that there is a russian

perspective it's not based in a

falsification and in lies and in malice

and evil it's a genuinely human

perspective with its own sense of right

and wrong about this conflict that's

just

the complete opposite of the the western

view right and i'm obviously giving you

the russian perspective and the eastern

perspective

but i think step one is being able to

acknowledge the fact that there is

another perspective

and

the problem we're facing right now is

that no one's willing to do that

nobody's really willing to acknowledge

that there's another perspective on this

conflict it's not just russia's the bad

guy and then the west has its own

perspective there's another perspective

on this conflict

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well

regarding the satellite images i'm not i

didn't do anything before the stream i

just started the stream right and i also

already worked out so

we don't have to be too paranoid about

the time although it's not going to be

as long as yesterday and i regret that

but you know

the thing about uh the thing about that

is that um

so there have there has been claims

right

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that i've seen

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that the satellite images that were

posted by the new york times from maxar

technologies

are could not possibly have been

from

march 19th as they claim

the drone footage which allegedly showed

an alleged again russian tank

shooting a bicyclist

that is i think

attributed to march 3rd right

there's a few weird things about that is

that on march 3rd or 4th ukraine

was in control of

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i mean you could see on that date the

mayor of ukraine raising the ukrainian

flag in bucca right so that's a weird

thing right also the tanks are not

marked

but here's honestly what's kind of

troubling me which i don't think is uh

is something that can really be um

explained that well

is that

if this satellite images from maxar

technologies

have wrong dates and they're actually

from april 1st

then the drone footage that was provided

by bellingcat

has to be a lie

and you can interpret that however you

want but it has to be a lie

because the bicyclist and please someone

correct me if i'm getting the facts

wrong cause i might be getting them

wrong

but i'm pretty sure the bicyclist

in the drone footage they showed was

also in the new york times satellite

footage is that true

yeah i've heard that rumor eclipse i've

heard that rumor

okay so if that's true

and if

the new york times satellite photos are

actually from

april 1st and not march 19

then the footage of the bicyclist could

not possibly have been from march 3rd or

4th it had to have been either later or

bellingcat provided a falsified evidence

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and i think we would be able to

have a way more clear picture of this

if the new york times and bellingcat

were much more transparent about the

source

maxar technologies is a pentagon

contractor

which does not give its satellite images

to russia

so russia can't independently verify

that the images are in fact accurate we

can't independently verify the images

are accurate so we really just have to

take their word for it

and i'm not sure if it's exactly fair

for us to be expected to do that

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yeah there are many things about the

western well it's not that the western

perspective is necessarily wrong

i mean there is something going on since

ancient greece that defines the west

right

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but i think

you know there there's this

i think it's it's like the end times

right in islam is that the sun will rise

from the west

it's never happened before i mean maybe

it has i don't know

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i think what we living in the west

should not necessarily be anti-western

we should just

challenge the elites monopoly on what

the west means because we can give our

own interpretation of

the historical west from ancient greece

through rome

and through the middle ages and through

the french revolution we can have our

own uh

view of what the west means right

and to me

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you know

yeah it's kind of like an end of the

world thing

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um

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so to me that's what we should say so we

should get the facts right

the western perspective isn't

necessarily wrong it's just wrong in its

form that it's taken now right being

behind ukraine and being pro-nato and

pro-democrat

that's really the problem right that's

the problem we're looking at

but the first step has to be an ability

to acknowledge

that there are other perspectives

there's also a russian perspective

um and i don't think that's unreasonable

right i don't think it's unreasonable to

say there's a russian perspective

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but that that's being censored right on

the on the internet now so no one can

really say we live in the free and open

west anymore right the west is becoming

a closed society we don't have an

ability to have other perspectives on

things

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couldn't they would reconcile i do think

they could i do think they can

and my gambit is that they're going to

reconcile

through the land bridge

from siberia to alaska and that's how it

will reconcile through america

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yeah i've seen the video of russian pows

executed by ukrainian soldiers i've seen

all that i've seen it

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i'm trying to find scott ritter's

telegram because he was suspended from

twitter

and

i'm looking for his telegram does anyone

know what it is

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okay here it is i got it

i'm going to join this one

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before i run away

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i

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before i run away

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by evan hill of the new york times why

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so

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do

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foreign

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me

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all right hold on give me a sec

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it's so [ __ ] up because it's like i

can't show you so much [ __ ] you know

there's so much i can't show you i'm

literally not able to show you

like uh the most important stuff

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this is the someone's with someone

saying i can't confirm it

whatsoever

but this is what they're saying

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all right

so before march 10

is when the footage allegedly comes from

all right

before march 10th is when footage and

the specific footage in question

is the bicyclist so if you don't know

this i can't show it on stream

but bellingcat

uh which i have to disclose to you is a

cia outfit

uh directly i mean it's not i'm not

being hyperbolic or exaggerating it

literally is funded by the cia

um

released drone footage

uh of a cyclist being

shot

by what what they claim is a russian

tank

now the thing is is that this is dated

before march 10th right it has to be

because one of the buildings that were

destroyed after march 10th

is still an at intact in the footage

right

so what this person's saying is it's

rather odd for ukrainian forces to be

raising the flag in buka

if russian forces were in control

it appears bellingcat is wrong

buka march 3rd 2022 raising of the

ukrainian flag so let's check this video

out and see if it's true

let's see if the video checks out

all right well

yeah that checks out to me i'll show it

to you guys if this is from march 3rd

that is so this is march 3rd

where they were raising the ukrainian

flag in buka

now i did see a journalist when

confronted with these facts

say that later that day on march 3rd

the russians took buca

um

which again i can i can't confirm but

according to numerous reports the

encounter with russian forces

some six to seven kilometers away near

vorzo from the column of equipment near

bordeaux providence

so there needs to be better evidence so

so there is an encounter with russian

forces six to seven

meters away

at this time on march 3rd

so that what this person's saying is and

i can't really confirm it i'm open to

this being challenged

is that russian forces were not in buka

on on march 3rd

they were six to seven kilometers away

it's literally a step into buka

okay but it's still six to seven

kilometers away

from this street

the encounter with russian forces is six

to seven meters

away from the column of equipment that

was located here okay

so there was an encounter with russian

forces this is what the person's saying

six to seven kilometers away while the

column was here okay

and i think what this person is trying

to insinuate

is the possibility

that

the column was not russian

at all

but

that is not sufficient to me and i'll

tell you why that evidence is not

sufficient to me

um

the reason i'm not convinced

is because

that bicyclist was also seen in the new

york times footage which is allegedly

from march 19th

meaning it was there for like a month

but it is elsewhere being contested

that the footage originates in march

19th

that means that the bicyclist

was there only on april 1st not even

march 3rd which would call into question

the veracity

of the footage that was submitted by

bellingcat

by the third russian forces have been

repelled well into the outskirts of

bucca

and ukrainian forces raised the flag the

videos shot by aerial reconnaissance of

azov fighters on the third was not there

for targeting

no drone footage of weapon strikes on

the column

that is also an extremely interesting

point

why was there drone footage of the

column if there was no strikes

on that column

that's just kind of weird if you ask me

um given the available evidence so far

it appears

on balance

the man riding the bicycle was shot by

ukrainian forces this is his perspective

i

i'm not really equipped to draw a

conclusion from this bellingcat appears

to have jumped to an unfounded

conclusion

and attributed blame to the wrong party

in the conflict

the video from the metadata to have been

uploaded on the first of march shows

russian captured equipment

being moved okay this is this is true

this is really incriminating

um apparently russian equipment being

moved on volk this is the street that

had happened the street where the

shooting took place on the third of

march and this is from the first of

march

right

you know this is the conclusion i want

to draw from the allegations made about

bucca and this is what's really

frustrating

to me right

i want there to be an independent

forensic investigation in what happens

in buka right

and if russia is guilty of the crimes

that they're uh accused of i will be the

first to denounce them

for such a horrific and inhuman act

right um

for such horrific inhuman acts right

uh the thing is

the thing is this is the the problem

here

the majority of the people that are

accused of being victims of russia

have already been buried in mass graves

by ukraine and they've already [ __ ] up

the whole scene of evidence too by

moving bodies and and checking them for

bombs and all this kind of stuff

so what we're basically dealing with is

a situation

where there's no way to investigate

whether russia is guilty of the

allegations made by the ukrainian

government

that means

no it's not like the chemical attacks in

syria at all because in the chemical

attacks in syria independent

investigators were actually were able to

go on to the site

of the

supposed attack in duma

and you know that was possible but

that's not possible in buka

because they've already buried all the

bodies that they're claiming

russia killed

or russia was responsible for for

killing

and

they've already tampered with the scene

and moved bodies all over

they have to hand over all the drone

footage they won't that's the thing

they won't do that they really won't do

that

um

now it doesn't end there all right i

mean we know the the boatsman boys

are on footage

admitting

that they're going to shoot people they

have an intention to shoot people

who are not wearing blue armbands inner

urban oh sorry in uh buca

right

so we know that the azov battalion is at

least responsible for a considerable

portion of the people killed in bucca

right

here's the thing

on the first of april

the buca city council announced that a

large number of saboteur groups and

russian military disguised the civilians

remain in the city

on the 2nd of april ukrainian media

reported that azov forces began a

cleaning operation in bukha a clearing

operation of these russians disguised as

civilians so they said that russians are

disguised the civilians in buka and azov

went in to clear them up

now we've seen how azov has treated

russians

to say the least of russian soldiers on

video we have footage of that we know

that is not out of pocket and it is not

out of the ordinary for as of militants

to engage in in war crimes of this

nature we know it's not because we've

seen it on video we have evidence of

russians

capturing former assault bases in

mariopol with tortured with the tortured

dead bodies of women which were later

actually claimed to have

been done by russia and also here's

here's the issue i'm having we have a

pretty long list relative for this war

of crimes that were committed by the

azov battalion or the ukrainian military

being attributed to russia you remember

that bomb that the ukrainian military um

hurled into the middle of a civilian

center in in the dawn bass in donetsk

when that happened the western press

blamed

so there's a precedent

for

ukraine committing um war crimes and

crimes against humanity and then blaming

it on russia

but the difficult thing is is that i

think it's it's probably possible that

in in buka at least

some of the people who who died you know

could have died from shelling could have

died from war

could have died from

you know uh

who knows maybe even some of them died

at the hands of the russian military

because uh

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you know that there was a confrontation

or something i mean who knows right

it's just that

when

you have

a situation that's not black and white

you're gonna end up looking weak for

just pointing out the fact that it's

just way more complicated than they're

trying to make it out to be right

i i'm not saying that it's not possible

to draw a broad picture of what's

happening i'm just saying

that what makes this hard to to refute

is that there are probably some

civilians in bukha

who died

because of shelling or maybe died at

russian hands

but that obfuscates the like horrific

deaths of people you know

their hands tied behind their back and

[ __ ] that were probably you know in all

likelihood in all probability killed by

the azov battalion in their clearing

operation

so it's like

you know it's one of those dirty uh

situations right

jackson includes inviting yeah shut the

[ __ ] up you know

um

apparently scott ritter was involved in

some

he was catfished i mean something like

that he wasn't catfished he was uh

what is the word

when

so the government disguised themselves

as

a miner

and he you know was talking to miners on

the internet yeah he was in track

which you know is disgusting but and it

speaks to his personal whatever but

it doesn't have anything to do with the

quality of his in journalistic um

investigations right especially when it

came to iraq's wmds and the rest i mean

it's not like it's mr girl where

his significance is that he's defending

that kind of [ __ ] of course that's

completely indefensible right

um you think they did it because he

spoke out on iraq of course they did

right

uh but that doesn't excuse what he did

obviously and uh

you know

he deserved to be persecuted for the

crime

obviously but

you know

that has nothing to do with the quality

of his uh

his journalistic um reporting

and also he went to prison right

he wasn't catfish they planted

everything they can do it to everyone so

was he not guilty of what he was accused

of like was

was it all faked i don't know right i'm

not really that familiar with the

details

no i don't know anything about the

details of i just heard rumors honestly

this is all i've heard i've never i

don't actually know

records are sealed in cases very little

is written so i'm not going to speak on

something i don't know right i'm just

not gonna speak on anything i don't know

he refused guilty plea okay well he then

he denies it so i don't know

i i don't know anything about that case

this is the truth i don't know anything

about it

french

in this interesting french green berets

and badges with soldiers numbers were

found at the marijuana as of base

okay so oliver stone

has written this is not oliver stone

this is someone

oh recommended by oliver stone

okay

this is recommended by oliver stone

and here's richard wolff and michael

hudson in video

but this is a an article

it's going to vet it to make sure that

there's nothing to s

all right

should be good and we're going to check

it out

we're gonna check this article out

um

okay

the u.s bubble of pretend

lack of objective principle coverage on

the war in ukraine

is a degenerate state of affairs

talking about the ghost of kiev's story

there was a maternity this is his words

not mine

there's a maternity ward that the

russians supposedly bombed mariupol and

then the theater and then the art school

all filled with huddling citizens the

russian air force cynically targeted

because this is genocide

as the ever in

in

interpre

intemperate zelensky does not hesitate

to uh to assert

all this has been reported as fact in

the times and other major dailies and of

course by the major broadcasters there's

been pictures there's been videos all

very persuasive to the eye

and then as evidence mounts that these

incidents were staged as propaganda to

frame the russians and draw nato

directly into the war

silence worthy of a catholic chapel

descends we read no more of the

maternity ward that turned into an

impoverished azov base or the theater

citizens were herded

i did notice that did you guys notice

how we're not hearing anything about

the feeder

the maternity ward or

uh

or the art school

they moved on but here's the thing

that's not something you move on from

that requires an investigation

because it would be considered a

flagrant violation of

it would be a flagrant violation of

international law and you could try

russia

with a smoking i mean it's a smoking gun

in the international court

international criminal court i mean you

would really be able to just

indisputably say

russia is committing war crimes in

ukraine

so there is no reason people should have

moved on from these allegations of the

maternity the art school um

uh

or the theater

well i think this person is saying the

reason they moved on from it

is because those three were debunked

now were they debunked

um

i'll leave that for you to decide

i did see the mobile crematorium thing

and we're gonna get to that because

that's another interesting

that's something we debunked very early

on in in the conflict is this idea that

russians are carrying mobile

crematoriums around

yes because the blogger that's what they

call we have to call her a blogger right

she did come out and she did say that

she didn't know what was going on when

they were filming what happened at the

maternity war so it's not that it was

staged it's that they took photos of

something

and and made claims about what was going

on that are denied by some people on the

ground

before proceeding to buca

the outrage of the moment

i must reproduce the quotation from the

propaganda is a okay piece the times

published in march 3rd editions it's

from a twitter user

it was distressed that it had become

public that the ghost of kiev turned out

to be a ghost

and that the snake island heroes didn't

do much way by holding the fort

why can't we just let people believe

some things this thoughtful man or women

wanted to know

what is wrong in other words

if thinking and believing nice things

that aren't true makes people feel

better

america the beautiful or something like

that

buca is a suburb of 35 000 so i mean

this is the thing

they already said very early on in this

conflict and this is true this is

something i can confirm

very early on in this conflict

you did have people basically admitting

that hey you know if something's fake or

if something's fake news and it's you

know it's not true

we should not fact check the story

because it's it's needed propaganda

against russia right

and that's an ideology by the way that's

being

that people are committing to at like a

grassroots level

i mean that's what they said very early

on in this conflict who cares about the

truth

as long as it serves the ukrainian war

effort

so i need to give you some perspective

and insight in the

pro-ukraine perspective here

what russia did

by invoking its special military

operation was ontologically evil

and that there is no evil

that russia could not

possibly be accused of committing

that is unjustified even if it's a lie

because of what it did when russia

invaded ukraine

it committed the principle evil

and therefore we can make things up

about anything russia does going forward

because

whatever helps the ukrainians repel the

russians who committed this horrific

evil is justified

he recovered 450 gigabyte of deleted

material from his laptop and has fled to

switzerland

which is interesting because i think he

should have fled to russia

someone in dylan's chat denied that i

saw a video of a russian pow getting

stabbed in the eye

i sent him the link and he said he

deserved it

i mean there you go i mean that's just

what we're dealing with here you know

it's just like sums up

it sums up what their perspective on

this uh actually is

yet again

for these people the special military

operation was the most egregious act of

evil

um

so anything that

look it doesn't matter what happens

ukraine good rush of bad

whatever helps the war effort it doesn't

matter you can be a lie they can make up

stories it does not matter

and don't take my word for it because

that's something they literally admitted

to saying almost ad verbatim

on twitter

you know azov is killing civilians

they'll say okay well they deserved it

anything anything against the

russian invaders is justified right

um

now

i want to roll this back a little bit

and i want to ask you guys a question

what they are saying in ukraine

do you think they're gonna bring that

energy back home

they're not gonna bring that energy back

home

how much vitriol and hate

did the so-called left

channel toward trump supporters

what about during the pandemic what

about the people during the pandemic who

you know um

were spreading misinformation to quote

the honorable twit term the terms of

service

you know what about those people who

were refusing to get

vaccinated

how were they being described

by

the same people now supporting ukraine

really violent ways right i mean trump

support antifa everything's justified

right

so you have to understand that if

they're gonna support nazis abroad it's

because

that they have that same thing going on

here right but here it's going to be

toward

you know maga people or conservatives or

religious people

or you know

people who don't want to go along with

the latest agenda of the day

you got to understand that when they're

justifying in an ideological way

the atrocities committed by the azov

italian

they are basically trying to admit right

that they're willing to justify those

atrocities here as well against

americans

who caused the suburb of 35 000 people

a few miles north of kiev

and one of the cities russian forces

began to evacuate on march 29th as peace

talks in istanbul progressed

two days later the mayor anatoly fedorak

celebrated the city's liberation in a

selfie speech to his citizenry it made

no mention of anything on untoward

in in buca streets backyards or public

spaces four days later april 2nd

a special unit of the ukrainian national

police deployed to buca and suddenly the

place turns out to be a hell hole bodies

in the streets 410 according to the

prosecutor general's office in kiev

evidence of atrocities galore people

bound and shot point blank the whole

nine

short

the outrage from the western world

worldwide outrage that would be was

instant

no demand for an impartial inquiry which

is what i've been calling for from the

very beginning forensic inspections or

any such thing

no one asked why corpses left in the

street for five days appear to be fresh

or why the relatives of the dead left

them there until

i mean that's my my single biggest

question

about what happened in bucca to this day

is this

how were those bodies left in the street

for a month

please tell me how that is

how did people just leave these bodies

on the street for a month

was buka so brutal

that there was a military lockdown in

place where like you couldn't even go

outside and the whole outside was all

just a war zone

and and you'd get shot for going outside

i mean was that really what was going on

for a single a whole month everyone was

imprisoned

nobody was living their lives

nobody was living their lives at all

everyone was being held hostage as a

prisoner

um

probably animals would eat them

eventually i i don't know i mean that's

just the biggest mystery to me about the

whole debacle in bucca

the entire mystery to me

is this

how were they there for a month

i it's that simple right

how were they there for a month

everyone in buca had cell phones

operating normally

i've heard i've heard uh conflicting

reports about that i've heard some

people say there was no cell phone

coverage or mobile coverage at all for

mobile data

and i've also heard people say there was

right

antonio gutares the un secretary general

was level-headed enough to state

it is essential that an independent

investigation leads to an effective

accountability i agree with that

um it's just that an investigation is is

nearly impossible now because ukraine

has already buried

the victims of the russian

crime right the alleged victims of the

russian crime the alleged russian crime

this is only sound position at this

point but we know from a long history

how far sg's at the u.n will get with

the sort of talk

in my read yet another false flag the

kiev regime flies almost by day now

paying attention people will not miss

the striking similarity between these

incidents and the numerous put up jobs

that featured in washington's covert

operation in syria and the campaign of

those famous moderate rebels who

desperately wanted to draw the us into

the conflict

as a matter of principle we must await

evidence of what happened at buca even

as we know we are likely to see about

as much about events there as we are

have in mariupol we know that to most

people neither evidence nor its absence

matters

we've been told once again what to think

and believe and most of us will think

and believe it

now to further um

add to this i guess

uh you mean

but this is an exact claim that i see

being made right

and it's that

let me find it

here it is

so apparently russia wants a forensic

investigation of buko war crime

the british u.n

security council chairman refuses

russia is now accusing ukraine of a

false flag similar to bucca which hasn't

taken place yet but which is already

being staged aplix can you share that in

fact checking so i can cover it

all right well the new york times is uh

reporting on this at least

but maybe they're trying to throw us off

so they appear unbiased and before you

ask ah that's just paranoid is it

because yeah they would go that far they

have in the past

a video posted online on monday and

verified by the new york times

appears to show a group of ukrainian

soldiers killing captured russian troops

outside a village west of kiev

russia specified the towns where it will

happen

i mean just fascinating

the first picture is azov and the street

standing tall wolf's angel and black sun

in our faces this is from a battalion

destroyed in mariupol

the new york times is covering their ass

for buca yeah i don't

that's what i think as well

thank you i appreciate you

thank you so much no woma

nobuana i should say

why doesn't why isn't there a gifter um

icon next to your name

um

oh uh this is something i i think is

worth uh pointing out

and i guess i'll show some condolences

you know he was um a figure

i guess respected by many

actually i don't know

hold on give me a sec just want to

verify make sure

um well

i personally was not a big fan

but

zironovsky has passed away

the leader of the

liberal democratic party of

russia so yeah he passed away

um

that's just uh

wow

he was a very contribution controversial

uh guy

so let's look at the details here um

russian nationalist law name lawmaker

vladimir zironovsky dies at 75.

a senior lawmaker with

sulfurious rhetoric

and antics alarmed the west but appealed

to russians agreement and wounded pride

this is their [ __ ] language has died

at age 75 the speaker of the lower house

said wednesday

he said he died after a serious and

prolonged in illness the lawmaker was

hospitalized with covid on february 2nd

peskov said he was in serious condition

on february uh sorry in late march

he's making

vehement statements

that were neither liberal nor democratic

and typically delivered with the

ferocious glare

he advocated for russia to forcefully

regain control of alaska from the united

states

uh

suggested

that russia should hit ukrainian

president petro poroshenko's residence

with a nuclear weapon

and said he wanted a dna test to see if

he was related to donald trump

i think he also was famous for saying

that um

russia has a gravity weapon that will

sink the entire united states in water

submerging in water

uh

he also claimed he received a total of

eight covet shots since august 2020

august 2020

um

yeah he was also famous for saying that

he wanted to build

uh giant fans on the border with the

baltic countries to blow nuclear waste

uh

into into those countries and that

that's what he was saying so

zironovsky played the role of a wild man

many saw him as a tane creature who was

submissive to the kremlin

yeah i mean

that's just kind of your opinion

he uh

founded the liberal democrat party in 91

as the soviet union was pulling out

and the group became the country's first

officially recognized of opposition

party

later accounts contend that its

formation was a kgb project

aimed at diverting legitimate

oppositions into her ineffectual

channels

in its early years the party had a

significant presence in parliament it

won the single largest share of votes in

the 93 parliamentary election

took 40 64 seats in the 450 member duma

prominence steadily declined

and after the 2021 election the party

was down

to 21 seats

huh

though the party's influence fell

zironovsky remained a vivid figure whose

comments were received with enthusiasm

or revulsion but rarely indifference

zironovsky was born in almaty the

capital of kazakhstan

as vladimir vulvovich idlestein and

moved to moscow at 18 to read turkish

studies at moscow state university

mcvedev said zeronovsky sincerely in his

own way in special unique ways

tirelessly fought for the authority of

russia

so

i mean r.i.p you know

uh

was not in agreement with his um

views necessarily but uh

you know it

so check this out um this is just like

mask off moment

right

in a break

with the past the us is using intel to

fight an infowar with russia

even when the intel isn't rock solid

it doesn't have to be solid intelligence

it's more important to get ahead of them

putin specifically before they do

something

in an attention-grabbing assertion that

made headlines around the world

u.s officials said they had indications

suggesting right russia might be

preparing to use chemical agents in

ukraine

joe biden said it publicly but three u.s

officials told nbc news

that there is no evidence russia has

brought any chemical weapons near

ukraine

they said the u.s released the

information to deter russia from using

the banned munitions

wait so you're saying u.s officials are

now admitting to lying

so when these people lie to you

you find out they're lying and then they

start admitting to you that they're

lying to you

and then they tell you about what's

going on in buca and elsewhere we are

left with a serious um

question of

you know what do we believe right if

they're just admitting that oh yeah we

lied about that to deter them

but you you didn't just lie to russia

you lied to the world you lied to me

personally you lied to my chat you lied

to everyone's chat you lied to literally

you lied to everyone you lied to the

whole [ __ ] world you didn't just lie

to russia you told the world

that russia was planning chemical agents

in ukraine

which was based on nothing you invented

this lie out of thin air

you invented this lie from thin air

right

and i don't know i mean had i said

outright that this is a lie

there's no evidence for it

would that have been considered

misinformation

according to big tech

would big tech d platform me for saying

outright black and white that it's a lie

i had to wait for the u.s to admit it

was a [ __ ] lie themselves

i mean i could have known that was a lie

i could have known that they were

pulling that out of their [ __ ] ass

but i wouldn't have been allowed to say

that because it would have constituted

maybe misinformation i don't know

it's just a [ __ ] example of why you

need p you need people to fact check the

fact checkers you need people to hold

the mainstream media

accountable

for spreading false information

by the way this is nbc news okay

it's one of a string of examples of the

bite administration breaking with recent

precedent by deploying declassified

intelligence as part of information war

against russia the administration has

done so even when the intelligence

wasn't rock solid to keep putin off

balance

oh lie to keep putin off balance not to

change public perception of

how russia wages war

in order to demonize russia

it's the most amazing display of

intelligence as an instrument of state

power

jesus [ __ ] christ

literal unironic [ __ ] liars

all right so this is the uh um a russian

news source

it says

ukraine stages morse killings of

civilians west delays investigation into

buca

so okay this is what this article from a

russian news source is saying

russia's military spokesman has accused

ukraine's security

services

of staging more killings of civilians in

several towns in order to use western

media to blame moscow for war atrocities

and the foreign ministry has used the

west of delaying investigations to buka

okay

moscow accuses kiev of using the same

tactics in the city of bucca last week

once again the russian armed forces are

being held responsible for alleged

atrocities

troops of ukraine's 72nd

main center for information and

psychological warfare operations

have once again produced staged footage

of civilians allegedly killed by violent

actions by russian forces

disseminate these footage to western

media according to confirmed information

shooting took place on monday in a

village of

motion about 23 kilometers north uh

northwest of the kiev

capital city kiev

huh

so um if they're right then you should

be hearing stories coming out of um

motion soon or the ukrainians caught

wind of russia knowing about it and

they're gonna give up on it who knows

but this is what they're saying is next

similar operations were carried out by

the ukrainian side in cities of sumi

kanotop and elsewhere

procrastination investigation to bucca

lavrov has said that western allegations

of mass killings of civilians in bukha

and firmly rejected them

its head lavrov recalled that russia had

twice tried to bring the incident before

the u.n security council but britain

which currently chairs the u.n security

council refused

russian ambassador of the united nations

vasily

ebenzia

described britain's actions as

incredible and unprecedented

it was unprecedented incomprehensible

and unthinkable we were denied a

security council meeting

which we requested from the uk

presidency today during my tenure i've

had emergency security gut model

meetings on many issues on weekends on

u.s public holidays and so

on took place and we've never raised any

objections

what has happened here is something

incredible and unprecedented in the

history of the united nations

lavrov pointed out that in the last few

weeks alone

there have been many examples of open

fakes about ukraine and that people were

already being used to this type of fake

news from the syrian war

from the western-backed white helmets

the white helmets wow

the campaigns followed a similar pattern

namely that immediate propaganda

campaigns were started and alleged

culprits were prematurely identified

such things especially on the part of us

politicians

according to lavrov

and most importantly

many u.s politicians who started the war

in iraq

under an own pretext who destroyed libya

together with nato partners who invaded

syria

have an uneasy conscience

lavrov reminded and assured

when the truth came out a few days later

nobody in the west wanted to talk about

this topic

we will expose such fakes

in this context he also pointed out that

the russian armed forces left bukon

march 30th which was also confirmed by

the mayor of the small town

two days later allegations against

russian troops were made

on saturday the kiev official

released images and video footage of

several bodies lying on the streets of

the small town of buka northwest of kiev

claiming that they had been executed by

russian troops

moscow which insists its military

does not target civilians when deployed

in ukraine

has firmly denied these allegations as a

provocation

uh by kiev

numerous inconsistencies

in the ukrainian narrative were pointed

out

including the fact that the video

surfaced only a few days after russian

forces withdrew from bucca

and at the local mayor in his video

speech describing the liberation of the

city

not mention any killings by anyone of

the russian troops this is something i

pointed out as well that the mayor

nobody pointed this out until after the

azov went in with their clearing

operation in their words

despite russian arguments and moscow's

attempt to convene a u.n security

council session

oh thank you i see

icuk tipped 20.36

bbc reports that six hours ago prime

minister boris johnson states that

attacks on civilians by russian forces

in the ukrainian town of puka do not

look far short of genocide

huh

i wonder how does the west get away with

all the lying

i really think it boils down to people

who um

who just view the world in in that kind

of way right

western governments immediately ruled

for themselves who was responsible for

the alleged atrocities

us president joe biden has called for a

war crimes trial for his russian

counterpart vladimir putin in the eu

is about to send its experts to ukraine

to help ukrainian authorities collect

evidence on the ground

moscow began a large-scale military

operation in ukraine at the end of

february after its neighbor consistently

refused to implement the minsk

agreements signed in 2014

based

and russia finally recognized the

donetsk and lugonx people's republics

and the don bass with the protocols

mediated by germany and france the

status of these regions within the

ukrainian state should be regulated

peacefully and accepted to everyone

that's their opinion

again

like i said a lot of these narratives

about russia

are believable by the majority of people

in the west because they think russians

are lawless

criminal people who have no regard for

any norms or

prohibitions because they don't have to

follow the conventions of western you

know democracy right so they assume that

russia just they just do any any i mean

you know what this pathology and that's

what i'm gonna call i'm gonna call it a

pathology it does originate

in the russian civil war and lenin would

talk about it lenin would talk about how

the western press

would make all these allegations the

bolsheviks were eating babies the

bolsheviks were doing this they were

doing that

and that's where the fake news basically

started when you know all the claims

they make now about authoritarian

governments all of that started during

the russian civil war

right

and

it really comes from this pathology that

when you go beyond

western democracy and western

civilization you end up with complete

barbarism and savagery and there could

be no possibility that you could be a

moral human being whatsoever

that's basically where this all comes

from

you know um

the reason it's really easy for me to

like

sympathize with non-western specifically

russians who are um a victim of this is

because i'm victim of it right

i am someone who has repeatedly accused

and painted in a light

that doesn't reflect at all who i

actually am doesn't reflect the things

i've done

and it's all

because um

i'm not within the anglo box right so

people just

feel like they can make up anything they

want about me uh and it's believable

because you know i don't have i don't

follow the conventions and and norms of

the left like if someone said that i was

this racist and i was a nazi and i was

you know i i worshipped hitler or

something you know the majority of

leftists would believe it because

because i'm beyond the threshold of what

they consider to be a civilized human

being so it's like i myself in my

personal character and con like people

ask me has how can you be so sure

certain that they're lying about russia

and i'll say okay because they've lied

about me in the exact same way and i've

struggled for like a year to wrap my

mind it was so incredible the way i'd be

lied about

i would struggle to wrap my mind around

it

and then i'd come to realize that holy

[ __ ] i get it that this is a pathology

it doesn't come

there's no rational explanation for why

they do this they do this because it's a

form of psychosis

right so i i understand how they lie

about russia because they lie about me

in the same exact [ __ ] way right so i

actually understand how this works

you know the way i'm clipped out of

context and it's just it's just i know

how they do this [ __ ] i know how they

play these games you know um

so i'm just telling you like i mean is

it really possible that people could lie

that much i'm telling you the truth yes

they can they can really lie that way

because it's they don't they're not

lying for any rational reason it comes

from an irrational fear

of someone that a kind of like other

right it comes from this irrational fear

of of a people that westerners do not

understand that's where it comes from

right it's not rational

they have an irrational disposition to

lie about people they oppose it's that

[ __ ] simple

this is the only sound position at this

point but we know from a long history

how far sgs at the un get with the sword

of talk

in my read this is another false flag of

the kiev regime flies

by the day now paying attention people

will not miss the striking similar okay

uh let's continue with this article

we're to add is to various other truths

now almost universally accepted the

russian intervention had nothing to do

with nato expansion and was unprovoked

that favorite term of the biden regime

training forces that pushed the russians

into retreat not the pressure on kiev

was a russian diversionary tactic to

keep ukrainian forces away from the dawn

bass where the fighting is

after the pentagon papers came out in 71

hannah arden published an essay in the

new york review of books called lying in

politics in it

she wrote of america's slide into a sort

of collective psychosis

she termed the factualization facts are

fragile anna arden throat

and that they tell no story in

themselves they can be assembled to mean

whatever anyone wants them to mean this

leaves them vulnerable to manipulation

of storytellers that's absolutely true

the deliberate falsehood deals with

contingent facts

to explain in the remarkable piece of

this work

that is with matters which carry no

inherent truth within themselves no

necessity to be as they are

factual truths are never compellingly

true

and the reason for that is because facts

are often messy and they're often

complicated and they don't lend

themselves

to the narratives we build about them

right the over rightering narratives we

use to make sense of them

um

and you want to ask which narrative is

usually true it's usually the one that

can make sense of and which doesn't

contradict

the most amount of available facts right

that are yeah available

a dead body in the ukrainian street in

other words can be assigned a meaning

that once it is established

evidence to the contrary can use to

erase

there you go facts in themselves don't

carry any meaning

[Music]

it is half century since arden published

lying in politics

and it is to that time between the 60s

and 70s that we must trace the formation

of what now amounts to america's

greatest bubble of pretend

the world as it has mattered

less and less since arden's time the

world as we have wished it to have

mattered more and more

this is also what

putin dubbed the empire of lies you know

the bubble of lies or sorry

what is it the great bubble of pretend

this is what he's calling it putin

called it the empire of lies right

nine years before ardent published her

nyrb piece

daniel borstein brought out the image or

what happened to the american dream and

unjustly neglected work

i have described the world of our making

he wrote

how we have used our wealth our literacy

our technology and our progress

to create the thicket of unreality which

stands between us and the facts of life

the press as you can imagine did not

escape borstein's scrutiny

the reporter's task he wrote memorably

is to find a way to weave these threads

of unreality into a fabric the reader

will not recognize is entirely unreal

this is our condition ukraine crisis is

the mirror that reflects us as we are

now i'll relate a particular coincidence

pertinent to our case

last week i took it upon myself to watch

marcel offils the sorrow and the pity

all four hours of it

this is the famously explosive

documentary that forced the french to

come to terms with the extent to which

they had collaborated with the nazis

during the three years

and some that they had occupied france

oh [ __ ] i knew there's going to be a

[ __ ] swastika

in this image

and it's like not clear

that i can even show this

the film was a special meaning for me it

came out in 69 just as i arrived in

paris for university studies france

it was an uproar over opal's film

it was banned from broadcast broadcast

on french television until 1981

i did not understand much of this time

sorrow in the pity shredded to pieces

relentlessly unblinkedly the national

myth that france had been the heroes of

the resistance or had aided it or had

some ways stood up to the collaboration

as vichy's regime of martial bataan

hero of verdon in world war one

capitulationist in world war ii

this was nothing like the case

uh

now this swastika is gone i can show it

again now i understand what the young

student long ago could not quite grasp

the french simply could not face awful's

unyielding exposure of who they had been

ovals had punctured the enduring bubble

of pretend

within which they had lived for 25 years

after 1945 victory in europe

people can live in these bubbles a very

long time the unreality with them can be

very persuasive french finally emerged

from their bubble it was painful passive

full of angst

they were fortunate to have escaped

we'll have to

we'll have our interim of sorrow of pity

and emerge from our bottle

for the better of it

may we someday

be so blessed

there you have it

and now here's um

well let me just make sure this

okay richard wolff and michael hudson

ladies and gentlemen

lieu of a direct military confrontation

with russia with all of the unimaginable

consequences that that could bring

but so far the sanctions did not seem to

be working as planned

china has come in a sec

it's gonna it's talking about the

sanctions i wanna go pee give me one sec

i'm gonna go take a piss

based

foreign

remind you guys that uh

you know

i'm eating a protein bar

i hope everyone takes note of this fact

and

treasures this fact eleven months

pushing z

come to moscow's rescue buying more oil

and other commodities from us from

russia

beijing has allowed russia to use its

union pay banking system replaced

russia's use of swift with china's

interbank system and china and the

eurasian economic union which russia is

a part of are designing a new monetary

and financial system that would bypass

the u.s dollar threatening it as the

world's reserve currency

that has led to u.s attempts to tie

china to the war in ukraine so that so

that it can impose new sanctions on

beijing perhaps similar to those on

russia the united states is acting as

though the world is the west and that

this is the china of 30 years ago in its

effort to impose its unilateral rule on

the world while its domestic social

problems mount the us has not only

driven russia and china closer together

than ever but has now brought in india

latin america africa and the middle east

into a new bloc with an economic power

that exceeds the west all of those

regions have refused to sanction russia

and continue to trade with it

the u.s has turned the majority of the

world's population against it

you might be witnessing the end of

western dominated globalization and the

birth of a divided world of two separate

economic financial and commercial

systems

cutting off trade and finance to russia

has already boomeranged on western

countries driving up prices especially

at the pump and at the supermarket

instead of prompting a popular uprising

in russia as a result of its sanctions

russian president vladimir putin's

popular popularity has actually risen

since the invasion adding china as a

target of economic war would drive the

populations of the u.s

could drive the populations of the u.s

and europe against their own governments

instead

instead of the population rising against

russia joining us to discuss these

complicated issues are two leading

economist professor michael hudson

he's a professor of economics at the

university of missouri kansas city and a

researcher at the levy institute

economics institute at bard college and

professor richard wolf who's rejoining

us

meredith professor of economics at the

mess at university of massachusetts

amherst and a visiting professor at the

new school in new york i'd like to begin

uh with how russia is surviving this

economic war and then discuss the

economic blowback on the west and

finally what the consequences of similar

sanctions on china would be rick let me

start with you

how is the economic war going against

russia so far

well it is causing pain it is causing

some difficulty it is going to have

short medium and long-term consequences

but my guess is and and we're at a stage

where guess is all you can really do

here

uh for example just to make that one

point

uh russia has

has not yet decided on what counter

sanctions uh a lot of folks seem to

believe that sanctions always go in one

direction they don't they always have

consequences

uh in which the sanctioned anyone know

what's up with pushing giving a medal to

a nazi

um

it's not clear that he's a nazi it's

that [ __ ] simple

he had some viking ruin on his shoulder

and he had that skull

none of which are inherently nazi uh

symbols

to my knowledge

to become the sanctioners in turn and

then you have to figure out how this

interplay affects both sides uh the

united states media in the main seem to

be all cheerleaders for the one side and

oblivious to either the reality or the

potential of the other side so it's a

little early having said that i think

there's a context here that we ought to

the swastika isn't inherently nazi

yeah it is it's pretty recognizably

inherently nazi

um those symbols though associated with

neo-nazi movements

are pagan symbols and

the guy was probably a rodnoburist so if

you don't know what road and ovary is

it's uh slavic paganism right slavic

native faith it's called rotten ovary

it's like new age [ __ ]

that's my best guess

understand is this the the mother of all

sanctions yes

but you know under donald trump we had

what was then the mother of all

sanctions four years of economic warfare

um i do have to say

this like return to paganism is the most

cringey [ __ ] thing in the world you

know

anyone can return to paganism right

literally anyone in the world can do

that

right

you hate all pagans

i don't recognize the legitimacy

of western paganism i don't recognize

that i don't recognize it as legitimate

i think it's [ __ ]

right

um

you know uh the dharmaic religions of

asia

those are i don't know if i would call

them i don't think i would call those

pagan you know

because

those are like real religions right with

history and whatever

but when it comes to like modern pagans

yeah i don't respect that at all i do

not [ __ ] respect that [ __ ]

i i have zero respect for that like yeah

modern nordic paganism yeah shove it up

your ass i do not [ __ ] respect that

it's literally [ __ ]

i have the same view of that as like

modern witches we're like i'm a witch

i'm a wiccan i'm a i'm a witch

no you're not

you're a [ __ ] barista shut the [ __ ]

up

trade war mr trump uh told us if you're

actually a witch then quit your job at

starbucks

or quit your drop out of college

and go live in the [ __ ] woods and

live in a shack like a witch then i

might respect you if you actually live

in a shack in the woods and you start

brewing [ __ ]

then

and you call yourself a witch i'll be

like you know what maybe you are a witch

you know because you're about that life

trade wars that were easy for the us to

win that's literally a quotation he

imposed

tariffs on a scale that was dizzying

hundreds of billions of dollars at a

time tariffs eventually against

virtually the entire flow of goods from

china to the united states

from the best i can tell

and i think this is a consensus

that program of sanctioning china which

by the way included

comments about displacing the dominant

role of xi jinping

displacing the dominant position of the

chinese communist party were widely

referred to by top officials kind of

like president biden's remark the other

night

in poland

and to be blunt but i think to be fair

this sanctioned program on china

accomplished next to nothing in terms of

its own stated objectives

so now we have an even bigger one

uh against russia

russia unlike china has had quite a few

years now of experience with sanctions

people should understand that sanctions

began in against russia a very few years

after

the soviet union collapsed back in 1989

we go back to the 1990s we can see

sanctions imposed on russia they always

had this mixture of

short medium and long-term objectives

one of those was to change their basic

policy that didn't happen another one

was to get rid of putin that didn't

happen uh and yeah we got bigger

sanctions and you never quite know what

the new situation will bring

but if i were a betting person

uh the notion that these sanctions are

going to fundamentally alter what's

going on here i think is a

delusion of the greatest uh of the

greatest sort and and if i can just end

it

what's going on here is the decline of

an empire and the rise of another one

and that is always like a tectonic shift

of the crust of the earth that is a

rough and tumble uh experience it always

has been

the spanish the british the dutch the i

mean those empires as they crumbled

anyway guys am i allowed to watch

youtube live streams on twitch because

richard medhurst has uh

scott ritter on which

i'm kind of interested in um

hearing can i watch that

all right i'm gonna check it out am i

are

i'm not allowed to watch youtube live

streams on twitch though is that a

allowed

someone check if that's a lot

give me a sec

the next one will be nuclear russians

dug out areas around chernobyl trying to

grab waste the only other reactors

i don't know that that'll get really

serious you know it loves you dismantle

destiny's debate vs richard wolff oh i

did that i already did that

um not only did i do that before

um

i have actually also um

debated destiny about it it was like my

second debate

ever

give me a second

all right um

you said

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the time you know

as they clashed with one another like um

120 bucks or something you know

there was lots of violence there was

lots of terror

um the ukraine has the sad

moment in history is the time in the

place but it could have been anywhere

and in small ways it has been

elsewhere

kosovo uh isn't all that different in

terms of what it's fundamentally about

and when you have these kinds of huge

shifts

um the details

however horrific and painful to

populations like obviously is happening

in the

in ukraine

um those end up being kind of footnotes

to history even if the passions they

generate are intense at the time that it

occurs michael i i don't think that rick

is using hyperbole when he talks about

this being a world historical moment

that we are going through a rare one and

uh it could be if it's been a decade or

more since we've seen the battle between

unilateralism of the u.s and the

multilateralism of eurasia of china and

russia

uh it seems like it's come to a head now

how do you see it

well richard's quite right when he says

it's a tectonic shift let's look at this

from uh russia's point of view

uh

this is everything that russia has been

aiming at and insisting upon for the

last five years uh

president putin and uh uh

foreign minister lavrov have uh been

leading uh the uh understanding that the

world needs to de-dollarize uh that the

united states has declared an economic

war against russia china and uh their

allies really against eurasia so uh in

effect by drawing by uh drawing the

sanctions not only the sanctions but the

most important thing is by seizing

russia's foreign uh holdings in the

united states its treasury bond holdings

and the uh

and the uh bank deposits uh what the

united states has done itself is exactly

what both lavrov and president xi of

china have been saying the world must

move towards it they've been saying we

must have a multinational

uh world multi-polar world we must

dedolorize we must cut free of the

dollar and uh

isolate protect ourselves from the

united states ability to

use sanctions to interrupt their

economic activity to use oil to threaten

any country that doesn't follow us

policy from

being having their energy resource cut

off

to protect countries that don't produce

their own food from

being able to buy food and feed

themselves if they do something the

united states doesn't like if they do

not open their markets to the united

states if they do not privatize their uh

infrastructure so the uh everybody

thought

for the last five years well what will

russia and china and their allies india

iran

how will they create this new world

order well what they uh the united

states has accelerated this process it's

it's has destroyed itself the dollar

standard it is said uh whether you're

afghanistan and we grab all of your

foreign exchange reserves whether you're

iran and uh uh we grab your reserves if

you're venezuela and that we tell the

bank of england simply take all of your

gold and confiscate it uh nobody nobody

no countries central bank reserves held

in dollars no countries bank accounts in

the united states uh are safe you must

withdraw from the dollar in order to

avoid uh uh the united states doing to

you what we've just done for russia and

what uh we may uh would like to do to

china grab all of their wealth from the

have you ever thought about just not

being

a bad guy

have you thought about just not being

the bad guy

then you wouldn't have to worry about it

just stop being voldemort

the west and hope that this is somehow

going to make them unhappy enough to say

oh please don't hurt us anymore we'll do

whatever you want and adopt

neoliberalism so when uh richard just

talks about a tectonic shift it's really

a shift between two systems it's between

the united states pushing neoliberalism

uh on the one hand and uh countries

following let's say an industrial

capitalism evolving into socialism on

the other hand and all of this began not

only just uh as a

president putin has said oh no is this

guy saying the same [ __ ] i said but i

got a bunch of flack for when i said

we're already transitioning into a

socialist mode of production

shut the [ __ ] up you know

this war is not about the ukraine it

began a year ago when uh the united

states started the war against germany

and europe to hold it in

when president biden insisted that uh

europe and especially germany has to

block nordstrom too what he said but has

been saying for over a year now is that

we want europe to become dependent on

american gas and oil not

um not uh russian oil not only because

we want the business of the exporting

but we want the ability to control the

world oil trade so that if countries uh

do uh

resist neoliberalism we can cut off

their energy supply and we can we can

put we can use uh russia as an example

of what we can do to argentina or latin

america or africa it's uh i think the

chinese phrase is uh uh

killing the monk telling the chicken to

frighten the monkeys look at this uh

deranged psychopath in my chat i just

want to give you like a taste

this is like your average pro-ukraine

this is what these people are they

accuse russians of being evil and

sadistic and sick and [ __ ]

but when it comes down to it this is the

pathology behind

so yes like when they are accusing

russia of war crimes i mean which side

is displaying this like

savage barbaric [ __ ]

mentality it's pretty [ __ ] clear

right

pretty clear who the bad guys are just

look at how they behave

uh so that's

you are seeing a fundamental shift and

it's a shift of economic systems and uh

the united states has accelerated it of

course there's a transition period with

interrupted supply chains uh but from

russia's point of view it's just uh

accelerated

the eurasian victory by

years

hey rick you agree with that

yeah i agree substantially with what

with what michael is saying i think this

is a remarkable

act of of desperation i mean even

let's go from the from the

the minuscule to the big picture

the so-called slip of president biden uh

making regime change in russia

uh

you know his passion or his whatever you

want

um

you know this is desperate

you don't go you don't waste your time

insulting

other leaders in the world that you

don't like whose policies you disagree

how come zizek fell for cia propaganda

so easily

i might write something publicly about

this but it's because jesus is a

sectarian

and what do i mean by that

jesus is from slovenia

from a catholic background

and his whole stick has been basically

like

how do we balance the history of

communism

with

the west right

and he's basically he's gotten this

thing where it's like everything bad has

come from the east

and orthodoxy in russia and they've

ruined everything

and

their revolutionary colonel comes from

the the the west right the specifically

western west christian west right so

that's what jesus perspective is like

he's just a sectarian

venezuela to the president you from the

balkan wars right he's not a stalinist

he didn't you read what he says about

stalin and he has a very um

catholic leftist critique of stalin

um and and look jim story's a great guy

uh i i know i mean i don't know but this

is uh scott ritter who got banned on

twitter for talking about the truth

uh on richard matthews the show

um and now he has to go crawling back to

maduro

just imagine god that's so awful

it's about as awkward as it gets yeah

now you're begging you're begging you

literally have no leverage because we've

we've sanctioned everything we got

nothing

so we're going in and begging them to

sell oil and what do we have to offer

what are we going to offer in return um

we're going to dump white oak why does

irrelevant maduro already won that fight

they won't even dump him

ned price the state department

spokesperson he said that they they

continue to recognize uh gwydo as you

know the legitimate leader so they're

not even doing that which makes it even

more even worse if i if i'm maduro i'm

gonna look at you and say no there's no

oil

for the relief it is worth it also

yes to balance it because he does have

an economy right and um that that is

that is in dire straits he has a

population that

he has to look out for

but i don't i don't see him um just

rolling over and playing dead for the

united states i see him you know coming

up with a uh

a solution that's in the best interest

of the venezuelan people

and that may include selling oil to the

united states

yet but

um

for a long time venezuela uh you know

used to export a lot of its oil to the

united states the united states was one

of its top customers um

and uh you know

over the over the last 20 years as as

bush and obama and trump and and biden

have all sanctioned venezuela that's

changed of course

but the u.s remains a net importer of

oil it just consumes far too much it

needs uh to find oil somewhere and even

cutting off russia which was just three

percent look at what it did to the oil

prices i mean it's it's you know very

very intricate well one of one of the

interesting things about venezuela is um

the the grade of oil that they that you

get out of the ground um

because it was so close united states

um is i guess it's um

our refineries have been

built around processing this this grade

of oil right

and um

and so all of our gasoline comes from

that that the venezuelan oil

and now when we

when we uh shut down we we had to search

for either you have to

totally reconfigure the refineries or

you have to find a similar grade of oil

and

i guess somewhere in the ural mountains

the russians produce a grade of oil it's

very similar to the

venezuelan grain and so that's what

we've been buying we've been buying all

the

i think it begins with an m i think

mazor or something like that oil

because our refineries

can you can operate it could can

you know

process this stuff without significant

um

you know

reworking

and that's why we have to go back to

venezuela because if we stop buying the

russian oil we got no other option i

mean this is this is how stupid

our

politicians are

and it's also you know iran

i mean you know

they're they're they're the

personification of evil we can't deal

with them

nuclear threat regional threat

oh wait a minute we need we might need

iranian oil to go on the market to uh to

keep the price of oil stable so that we

don't have to pay through it through the

nose it's not that we'll be refining

iranian oil we just need to create the

impression in the global market that

that oil is available right um

and

and suddenly you know we were at an

impasse in the jcpoa negotiations and

now you know we're like oh no no we're

we're good let's go we're ready to rock

you know

we we're even considering lifting the uh

foreign

label on the revolutionary guard imagine

that right that's that's the big fish

that the the iranians have wanted uh

lifting the islamic revolutionary guard

corps

and they they may not get it but they

may

but the point is if it weren't for the

stupidity of our sanction policy against

russia they never would have gotten it

yeah yeah that's true no it's a

possibility because the united states

uh has no fallback position

man this is so personally i think it's a

good idea but you know my point is if

you're going to have policies

that you know

that implies you're not a serious nation

if

you're sanctioning somebody

making their people suffer etc and

suddenly because of a simple economic

click you you go 180. right not a

serious nation if that happens your

policies must be linked to a principle

yeah not

not you know

you know the principle of appeasing

saudi arabia or appeasing israel a

national security imperative uh but if

we can flip on venezuela and flip on

iran that means we're not a serious

nation we're just not a serious nation

uh

you know scott i i wanted to ask you

about this zelinski quote he said that

um he wants to see ukraine turn into a

big israel right he said that uh we will

not be surprised that we'll have

representatives of the armed forces of

the national guard in all institutions

and supermarkets and cinemas and there

will be people with weapons

uh what does that mean uh he wants to

turn into a big israel

what do you make of that

i think he's basically saying that um

israel is a small nation that exists

among larger nations and um

is a uh regional superpower because of

their military strength

uh and so he wants to become a uh

a power that's dependent upon nobody

nato betrayed him nato absolutely

betrayed him and he can no longer rely

on nato uh and russia invaded him so he

he can't rely on russia and uh i think

he lives in a fantasy world where he

thinks that somehow um the non-existent

battlefield successes that he's

convinced himself that he is uh

that that that they have gained um

you know is going to result in him being

able to dictate this fantasy outcome

scottish is either going to be dead or

in prison so it doesn't matter

why do you think the israelis won't give

him the iron dome

well first of all

uh

because

no ukrainians trained on it

um second of all

uh because it will um the iron dome is

is designed to shoot down hamas rockets

and right uh and and should i i kind of

want to go through zizek on christianity

right now with you guys and they like

talk about it give a lecture but i'm not

gonna we're gonna focus on this

um you know

ken's all at it it's over man boom it's

gone so you know

it it it's it's just an experiment with

this guys we either do gta rp later or

we do that because i have to get through

this news one way or another so we do

gtrp we do that

cnn

um talking about how important it is

that we get the

70 old t72 tanks and you know mods make

a pull 60 uh old bmp fighting vehicles

uh out of the um

you know the former warsaw pac nations

and uh we turned them over to the

ukrainians at a time when ukrainians

have lost 1 980 tanks and armored

fighting vehicles

um

so he thinks that somehow sending you

know 110 120 vehicles is going to change

the outcome of this fight none of them

will make it first of all i'm surprised

if anything can start right now

um you know have they been maintained

properly um if i were the ukrainians i

wouldn't accept these they're death

traps um are they gonna do are the

engines gonna freeze how you know what's

the maintenance record um you know does

anything work does the loading system

work uh you know etc etc do they have

night vision capability or at night do

they just become a you know a glowing

piece of metal that'll be picked up by a

drone with them for red capability and a

missile taken out so and none of them

make it from the polish border or

wherever they're coming across to the

battlefield to begin with because you've

got to load them on trains the trains

will be blown up or you've got to load

them on heavy equipment trailers they're

going to be blown up or you're going to

drive them on open road and they're

going to be blown up

so

you know

there's this fantasy that somehow the

the west can

um

provide ukraine with the military means

necessary to prevail in this conflict

that's just not gonna happen ukraine has

lost the war the war is over

um you're gonna see more and more mass

surrendering of ukrainian troops going

forward because they are out of fuel

they are out of ammunition they're

hungry they're cold they're tired they

can't communicate

and uh eventually their hands are gonna

go up and they're going to surrender

we've seen the surrender of

of elite marine units in mario pole

and we're going to see the surrender of

less elite units

throughout especially once the pincer

closes

in eastern ukraine and you have a

hundred thousand sixty two hundred

thousand ukrainian troops realizing that

um

they're they only have two choices fight

and die or surrender

well scott you're you're engaging in

wrong thing and i think we can all see

why they banned you from twitter because

you you say uncomfortable

truths or as we were discussing earlier

you at least provoke

uh or stimulate critical thinking skills

and that is you know completely fair

button uh in this day and age

uh scott

any closing remarks i know i've kept you

on for so long but uh i'm i'm really

grateful we got to pick your brain um

you know anything else you wanted to add

that we didn't touch on this twitter ban

that they've done against you uh you

know where where can people follow you

i've pulled up your telegram is this the

correct one let me put it up on the

screen

that's me

okay so that's it

so it's t.m.e

scott ritter and i will uh paste it in

the

uh chat so people can just click on it

directly um

any anything else besides telegram where

people can follow you

that's it i mean i i don't have a huge

social media profile yet so um i may

never get one because i'll just get

banned but um

but no hey thank you very much for

having me on this was uh again again a

uh i think a worthwhile uh conversation

i've enjoyed it i thank you for bringing

me on thank you

hopefully um

between the two of us we've we generated

some uh

some cerebral activity amongst the

people who were listening yeah i i hope

so uh again we've got about 5 000 people

watching uh they're all very happy with

uh with you being here and and you know

i i i don't just speak for for myself

when i say uh uh that you know it's it's

always insightful and and great to to

pick your brain and have your inside

scott thank you so much uh i hope we get

to do this again soon and uh again

everybody go follow scott on telegram

it's t dot m e slash scott ritter and

i'm gonna copy paste that uh in the chat

there's literally so many people saying

thank you it's the chat is just

exploding i cannot even read all the

messages

thanks and uh have a good night get some

sleep

yep we'll do it thank you scott we'll

talk later take care thanks bye-bye

great

all right um

so we're not done with the news guys

we're not done with our news coverage

okay just chill we're not gonna go right

into it

we're not gonna go right into it

why nobod i don't know i have no idea

that's on twitch's end i didn't do

anything

with you don't do that if you're

confident it's a little bit like having

a conflict with somebody across the

street

you know if you start calling them

bad names you know it's you that are out

of control it's not anymore the

situation and it's not the other one and

i think to flesh out what we've been

saying both michael and i

um the united states

wants to control europe because it's

losing most of the rest of the world

it's looking for an ally it's looking

for something uh so you have to shift

gears instead of showing your rear end

to europe which was mr trump's specialty

uh you now have a complete oh my god

that didn't get us anywhere we're not

one step closer to a a compliant china

than we were before mr trump took over

uh maybe we better you know go the other

direction

um and you know instead of demonizing

china let's try to demonize

russia as an alternative ploy

and that can always scare europe because

russia has been a problem for europe uh

for centuries

everybody needs to remember a little

geography

russia is bigger than the rest of europe

i mean it is the it is the bear it is

the giant in this situation that has

frightened the british empire as early

as the 18th century and has been a

problem for europe all along and the

united states now wants to somehow

revive all of that

that's not going to change the basic on

the ground question and i want everyone

to be clear on this europeans are

discussing and have been for at least 10

years

this tectonic change we're talking about

they know it they know that their trade

with china is rising relative to

everything else they know their

dependence on the chinese market is

rising relative to everything else

russia i'm going to exaggerate now but

just to make the point

well let me do it this way with a

statistic the gdp of russia is one and a

half trillion dollars the gdp of the

united states is 21 trillion dollars

it's important to keep those numbers

this is a struggle between uh declining

goliath and an emerging david

china's gdp about 14 trillion is in the

middle but growing fast and scheduled to

surpass the us within the next few years

so

that's the framework in which all of

this is happening uh the challenge of

the the russians

is precisely as michael says part of a

very large shift of which china is a

part that has several steps you know we

used to talk about the bricks that was a

step in the direction of some new

configuration uh and most of those

company countries are let me be clear

we're not going to watch a zizek lecture

we're going to review a zigzag um

writing okay

specifically one just he he copies and

pays himself a lot so it's gonna be one

on uh christianity right so we're not

going to watch a zizek lecture together

we're gonna get through one of his

writings and i'm gonna basically break

it down for you

nice

lukewarm to the us position in ukraine

to say the least they're not going to

law they're not abrogating all of their

relationships they have no intention of

doing that neither by the way do the

german industries who got something out

of all of this they're not going to cut

their deals with russia and china or

very few of them are they need those too

much

and they want the future to be a growth

future for them and that's a better bet

with china than it is with the united

states we are now whether we like it or

not

an economy that is getting an empire

that is getting old in the tooth

that we can call mature if it makes us

feel better but economic growth

is over there it's in china it's in all

these other places and capitalists who

take a course at business school know

that it's always better to be where the

growth is than where it isn't

uh rick while we're speaking

uh there's news

breaking news uh the new york times

reported that russia said it would stop

attacks near kiev because they were

close to

uh an agreement with ukraine on a

ceasefire and now the ministry of

foreign affairs of russia and

we have to say that only they are saying

this now uh say that ukraine is ready to

become a neutral state unable to own

nuclear weapons with internationally

guaranteed independence that these

guarantees will not be extended to

dumbass region or crimea which would uh

mean that kiev formally abandons the

idea to annex them that they are part of

russia ukraine would be unable to have

any military presence including nato and

russian forces it doesn't say where and

kiev is requesting a final treaty to be

signed by

russian and ukrainian heads of state

this is from the ministry of foreign

affairs it could be rick that the united

states realized their sanctions weren't

working the they know what side of the

ledger they're on in terms of this

massive change in economics in the world

and they did not stop zelinski from

agreeing to this these were the three

conditions that russia put forward about

10 days ago

michael you wanted to comment on that or

what we were discussing before

i want to i will come on that i want to

uh put what uh rick was saying in

perspective uh and it's a 50-year

perspective that goes back to the baboon

conference in indonesia in 1974 when

president sicarno uh moved with india

and much of the global south to create

non-aligned nations uh the attempt going

back way to 1974 and uh was

to realize that the united states was

acting as an exploiter of uh third world

countries that uh it was

its investment did not aim at helping

them grow but yet just

uh safe and off if they could from their

raw materials and to take over the

government and make the financial sector

the planning sector not the government

sector well

the bandung conference and the third

world were not able to go their own way

because they didn't have a critical mass

but the united states uh

started a racist rebel revolution in

indonesia

millions of chinese uh and were killed

and the rivers ran red i'm told with uh

ethnic cleansing uh there was regime

change in the united states ever since

uh the uh overthrow of indonesia which

was the bloodiest internal uh you could

call it a fascist war up to up to that

time uh outside of europe uh this has

been the model ever since and the united

states continued to push the model they

thought they could do to russia what

they did to sicarno and they could do

the same to uh china uh there have been

discussions in america as i i know uh

you and rick both know uh let's uh

divide russia into a number of countries

like divide iraq into a number of

countries let's uh break china into

another number of countries by pushing

the west uh to succeed all of this was

their attempt to uh uh to

divide and conquer and yet they the

united states didn't take the scope uh

into consideration that uh there's now a

critical mass that is uh rex pointed out

uh doesn't need the united states they

can be self-sufficient without but the

west of the united states plus europe to

japan the new uh access

is

somehow is going to find itself left out

of the cold and yet the stock market is

soaring from all of this and it's

soaring because uh energy prices are

going to go way up in

the the us the nato countries much to

the benefit of the oil industry food

prices are going to go way up benefiting

american agriculture uh arms uh

purchases by europe are going way up so

uh the irony is that the united states

itself is benefiting largely at europe's

expense uh

you mentioned about the news that came

about

i know that all along uh zolinsky has

been asking for a cease-fire so that uh

his uh neo-nazi groups can continue

their assassination programs and bombing

of civilians so i don't know uh if there

is a cease-fire that russia agrees to it

must have completed clearing out the

azov battalion from uh mariapple uh

and if they've really cleared out uh the

neo-nazi groups there now they've

achieved exactly what president putin

said his objectives were from the day

that he uh uh

he moved in to protect the

russian-speaking population uh in the

doughnut

not only did they clear mariupo but it

seems as they're decimating the 60 000

the best troops ukraine has that were

lined up along the dumbass confrontation

line

uh that appeared to be starting an

offensive which brought russia into this

eight-year civil war to begin with uh i

want to turn quickly to the question of

the cost

to the united states economy to american

voters to uh

uh western especially europe how they've

suffered i'm going to turn to elizabeth

valsa has a couple questions on that

score rick we'll go to you because you

have to leave

yeah thanks joe i just wanted to ask

really quickly um you know about the

fact that biden had mentioned that food

shortages would become a reality do you

think that that's likely do you think

it'll be significant and how extensive

would that be and secondarily to that

uh do you think that the domestic

effects of this in the united states

will lead to some sort of widespread

protest i mean how much more can the u.s

public take before reaching a breaking

point with these higher gas prices

higher food prices on top of the

economic fallout from the covered 19

pandemic

okay

that's quite a mouthful there elizabeth

let me try um

to at least deal with some of it i'm

very leery of the attempt too closely to

link

uh the inflation here in the united

states to ukraine

all that the ukraine is doing is maybe

making it worse making it last a little

longer but everyone needs to remember

that the inflation was well underway

before february 24th when russia moved

into ukraine

so

it cannot be although it is already

being blamed in some sense it allows a

connection to be made that somehow the

domestic inflation is russia's fault

along with everything else that is uh

attributed to uh to russia we have uh an

economy that is in very deep trouble uh

mr biden as the presiding president has

to keep saying it's really okay this is

silly you know trump when he was running

against the democrats for president said

that their claims the economy was great

were all bogus as soon as he became

president the democrats accused him of

being bogus about his celebration they

were right again just as he had been

right before and now we have to play

that role against mr biden and the

republicans no doubt will do that as

well but that's very superficial that

doesn't get at anything

we have an economy that is extraordinary

from the point of view of the of both

classes the employer class on the one

hand and the employee class on the other

for the employees i mean think about it

the years 2020 and 2021

could be argued as among the worst for

the working class in american history

they suffered two catastrophes a public

health disaster

as big or bigger than any in american

history

and the arguably second worst economic

collapse a little statistic more than 80

million americans had unemployment for

some part of the last two years some for

only a couple of weeks some for the

whole period but that's more than half

the working class that's more than half

the labor force of this country

that means everybody

50 of our working class

experienced unemployment and it's

spectacular what was done to these

people across two years

and then

as they think and we don't even know if

it's true yet that they're emerging from

the pandemic and all of that they get

slapped across the face with an

inflation running now officially at

eight percent and likely at least two or

three percent worse than that if you

take into account how the numbers are

calculated and so on uh this is an

extraordinary level of pain

is worse than the condition they're in

today that's the worst number in that

survey since it started in the 1940s

we've seen a catastrophic

experience while the president who slips

and says regime change is on the agenda

tells us about a robust economic

recovery i mean it's not me that's

questioning it those surveys of the

university of michigan indicate that the

american people must believe that mr

biden is off his rocker with this kind

of torque what is the world is he

talking about so

when the american people being squeezed

watch huge sums of money shipped off to

the ukraine and with all due respect

americans are feeling for the pain and

the suffering of the people going

through war i understand that my family

has gone through war i know that real

well but they're going as they think

about it to wonder about billions over

there and we don't have what here uh in

terms of our of our situation

it is an extraordinary uh time

now

the fuel price increase

i don't know what's going to happen to

that even a peace deal

depends on a lot of detail are the

sanctions going to be reduced are they

not are they going to be reduced quickly

if at all what what in the world is

going on

uh a lot of that we can't know even from

the headline that joe just read i mean

we just don't know enough and if in the

absence of that

and given what was happening anywhere

once an inflation like this gets built

in once every employer sees this as a

rising level of cost he wants to get

ahead of it by raising his prices this

gets built in that's already happening

we're facing an inflation that is going

to take the lower half of the american

people into levels of economic

contrition and difficulty that we can't

predict the political outcome at this

point it'll work in the to the advantage

as i see it of the republicans in the

election

because the democrats have have

literally painted themselves into a

corner and if mr biden can't be sitting

up on the big horse going to war with

all the drama that those guys can do if

that drug has been pulled out from under

him by the russian foreign ministry or

whatever deals have been made here i

don't know what the guy's going to run

on he's got i mean he's looking like

like like a disaster on a scale that

frightens me mostly about where it takes

american politics

go ahead michael

yeah well uh i think the implication of

what uh rick says is that president

biden has indeed

uh got a rejection change but the regime

change is in the united states itself uh

when uh biden said last week uh well

we've got to make america's got to make

a lot of great sacrifices to support the

nazis in ukraine to support the isis

that are fighting there if we're going

to support isis and the nazis uh in

their fight against civilization you

you've got to make uh sacrifices but uh

who's the we uh the sacrifices that the

public is making as uh rick has

explained uh are

a great benefit to um

there's another side of the balance

sheet the sacrifices he's talking about

are huge huge profits for the oil

companies look at the stock market

soaring for the oil companies

look at the uh raytheon and the military

industrial complex and boeing soaring

prices

and the uh your what he describes as uh

a disaster for uh the american consumers

that are squeezed is a bonanza for

centralized uh

capital uh

last night on the news in here in new

york city they had uh a listing by

burroughs of the evictions that are

taking place there's an uh if you can't

pay uh meet your uh basic budget of

covering your fuel costs uh your uh

utility costs your food costs uh you're

going to be behind uh and your payments

and a lot of people are going to lose

their homes either they're renters or

even owners there is a a huge

agglomeration

of

private capital companies waiting to

come in and pick up all of this real

estate and turn america away from an

owner-occupied economy into a rental

economy a landlord economy we uh biden

really may succeed in rolling back the

economy to the mid 19th century uh and

uh that that basically is not just biden

of course it's uh the people around him

and ultimately it's the deep state

whether you're a republican or the

democrats their policy is identical they

have the same campaign contributors and

i'm sure rick agrees with that uh

all that voters can do is keep throwing

throwing the rascals out of power but

they're the same rascals uh basically so

uh the united states doesn't seem to uh

have much of an opportunity to have a

real alternative and uh you'd mention

the

absence of an anti-war demonstration

there isn't any anti-war demonstration

here or in europe in europe the only

anti-war demonstrations are the

nationalist right wing the whole left

wing in europe has been so corrupted by

cia meddling and the national endowment

of for democracy uh basically turning

the labour parties into tony blair

blairism uh

and social democracy into uh

neoliberalism that uh they the only

protest you're getting is not from the

left at all which i think as you said

earlier is pretty much evaporating but

it's from it's from the right so uh the

the hope for the change is going to be

the model that uh you're having uh

basically in china uh and uh central

asia take finally saying we are

not going to let uh american finance

dictate how our society develops we're

going to develop our society for the

population as a whole so a western

democracy has not been very successful

in creating

this prosperity

it looks like you need a government

strong enough to check financial power

and strong enough to check uh uh the the

power of the one percent and uh that's

not being done under western democracy

you're watching cn live

we're talking about the economic fallout

from ukraine

war with professor michael hudson and

professor rick wolf

it looks like the united states if this

peace deal that we just discussed uh

briefly actually works looks like the

americans have lost this war i've argued

it's crazy how like bread tube upholds

richard wolff as one of their own when

he literally calls out the left here

as being totally compromised

by the national endowment for democracy

i mean like that's pretty unambiguous

if you ask me

you know

it's a pretty like unambiguous

rejection

you know

if you ask me

what do i know though right

um

give me a sec guys give me a sec

i'm trying to [ __ ] do something

alright

alright it should be fun

should be fine

look at this guy talking about buka

never forget what those sub-human demons

did to the ukrainians

so it's actually literally a violation

of twitch tos to call a russian

sub-human because it's literal [ __ ]

racism but look at how high off of

propaganda this [ __ ] person is

when when you have such an egregious

claim don't you want to wait for

impartial investigations

um especially when there's other

evidence that points to the contrary

conclusion like in good faith

also right why did as of militants who

were in buka

request the ability to shoot people

without who weren't wearing blue

armbands and they said yeah shoot them

why did they talk about russian

saboteurs disguise the civilians why did

they talk about a clearing operation to

deal with the collaborationist and

traitors and saboteurs disguise this

civilians right

um

holy [ __ ] why did the mayor not talk

about anything that happened when the

russians left no word about any

atrocities by the way one month passed

the mayor was still the mayor of buca he

wasn't removed nothing happened wasn't

the mayor then a collaborationist with

the demons and their atrocities then

there's too many questions you have to

[ __ ] ask before you jump to these

emotional [ __ ] video game larp

illusions a lot of people are so upset

with me that i ruin

their little [ __ ] fantasy larp but

that's the truth before you jump to

these conclusions

we should have a full investigation

um to actually get a definitive answer

of what [ __ ] happened

and i don't see why that's become an

unreasonable thing to say

i'm just at a loss for why that's so

[ __ ] unreasonable to say

all right

all right um

all right we're going to do the gj thing

we're going to do the gj thing

so this is uh

so there's section one called only a

suffering god can save us okay

now this is way too much for me to go

through

um i recommend everybody read it for

themselves i've read this like

27 times in the past [ __ ] um

10 years i've read this like a bunch of

times already

as with most of these little things on

lacan.com

but

i'm not gonna i'm not gonna um

cover this part i'm gonna go back

and we're gonna why we're gonna do the

first section on hegel we're not gonna

go any further than that right i wanna

cover this

and we have to paraphrase a lot and go

through with it a little bit but um

i just want to walk you through this

right there's a lot of people read this

[ __ ] and they don't know how to make

sense of it so um

let's begin right

so

she says the key really the quick the

key question about religion today is can

all religious experiences and practices

effectively be contained within this

dimension

of the conjunction of truth and meaning

the best starting port for such a line

of inquiry is the point at which

religion itself faces a trauma

shock

which dissolves the link between truth

and meaning

a truth so traumatic that it resists

being integrated into the universe

of meaning right so the basic idea

if i like go at this pace it's going to

take forever

is this

we live in modern life today where

there's a um

there's this kind of

joining of meaning on the one hand right

like

the meaning of life and just meaning

right

um

rationality whatever the [ __ ] you want

let's just call it rationality right

because i think most people understand

like it's just something that's

reasonable meaning right meaningful and

then truth right so those seem to be

combined today right

so

the question for religion is

can they be contained within the

dimension of the joining of truth and

meaning right

um

so the best starting point is to ask

well within religion you have these

contradictions

which dissolve the link between truth

and meaning

there's a truth in religion that's so

traumatic

that it resists being

explained or integrated in any kind of

world view that makes it meaningful

so every theologian sooner or later

faces the problem how to reconcile the

existence of god

with the fact of something like the

holocaust right how can a god exist when

something like the holocaust happens

that's an example of this

issue of this problem of the conjunction

of truth and meaning right

or some other evil how can we reconcile

the existence of an omnipotent and good

god

with the terrifying suffering of

millions of innocents

like children that were killed in the

holocaust

so surprisingly

the theological answers build a strange

succession of hegelian triads first

those who want to leave the divine

sovereignty unimpaired

and thus have to attribute to god full

responsibility for something like the

holocaust first offer the legalistic sin

and punishment theory right which is the

idea that

it was punishment for the sins of

humanity and then they passed to the

moralistic character education theory it

has to be understood along the lines of

job as the most radical test of our

faith so it was a test of our faith

right

and then finally they take refuge in a

kind of infinite judgment

which should save the day after all

common measure

between the shoah the holocaust and its

meaning breaks down

okay sorry no that's not a different one

it's that if we survive this test which

is our test of faith

um

you can take refuge in this kind of

infinite judgment

uh

i forgot what an infinite judgment is

that the recursivity thing

let me look it up to repress my mind

for kant i want to know what the comp

one is

okay i get it now i get it i get it on

it's like uh it's like an ontological

argument right it's not

it's not subj it's not subject to

empirical

inquiry

um

okay i remember it's kind of weird it's

kind of like ontological right but um

so

you take refuge in an infinite judgment

which should save the day after all

common measure between this and its

meaning break down and the reason for

that it's calling an infinite judgment

is because

it's a test in our faith which we're

supposed to survive right

so instead of having to find a meaning

like why did it happen what was the

intention surrounding it

you draw a kind of conclusion which

allows you to say

you know that it's not that

there was a specific reason for this or

that they deserved it

um

you know

like uh

it wasn't like a legalistic thing where

it happened for that reason

this or that specific reason it itself

um

grounds its own reason i guess is how i

put it right

so

then the third is the divine mystery

theory

that it it bears witness the

unfathomable abyss of divine will right

so in accordance with the hegelian motto

of a redoubled mystery

uh the mystery of god has to be a

mystery for god himself the truth of

this infinite judgment can only be to

deny god's full sovereignty and

omnipotence

the next triad

is thus composed of those who unable to

combine the holocaust with god's

omnipotence

how could he have allowed it to happen

opt for some form of divine limitation

okay

um so first it's that god is directly

posited as finite or at least contained

not all-encompassing he finds himself

overwhelmed by the dense inertia of his

own creation

then his limitation is reflected back

into god himself as a free act as his

free act

god is self-limited he voluntarily

constrained his power

in order to leave the space open for

human freedom

so it is us humans who are fully

responsible for the evil in the world

in short phenomena like the holocaust

are the ultimate price we have to pay

for the divine gift of freedom

finally self-limitation is externalized

the two moments are posited

as autonomous

a god is embattled there is a

counterforce or principle of

demonic evil active in the world

that's like the dualism like god and

satan are fighting over

the soul of man right

so okay what's this paragraph trying to

say i mean this is what you guys wanted

by the way so don't [ __ ] you know you

wanted this instead of gtr rp so don't

[ __ ] complain

um

what this paragraph is trying to say is

that there's a problem of the

contradiction between truth and meaning

so how does theology resolve this and

zizek likes to use the example of this

issue of like how do we find meaning

in something like the holocaust how do

you reconcile that with any kind of

divine truth right how are truth and

meaning conjoined

in something something so horrible like

the holocaust or any other kind of evil

that um

you know humanity's guilty of

uh so he's he goes through basically

three solutions that theologians will

typically resort to

which imply the omnipotence of god right

but then

um

he also

points out that this leads to the view

the contradiction that

god cannot be omnipotent right so

there's a self limitation

that god imposes on himself in the form

of giving humanity free will right

um

and that this limitation is then

externalized right

so that it becomes

like the one on the one hand the choice

to do good is from god and the choice to

do bad is from

from the devil from satan right

uh

okay so this brings us to the third

position above and beyond the first two

either a sovereign god who's omnipotent

or a finite god who's not omnipotent

right

and that's a suffering god by the way

guys this is not my view and i'm going

to actually get into my critique of

zizek i just want you guys to know what

he's saying first okay

uh not a triumphal is god who is always

wins at the end although his ways are

mysterious

since he secretly pulls all the strings

not a god who exerts cold justice

since he is by death who is right but a

god

who like the suffering christ on the

cross

is agonized

and assumes the burden of suffering in

solidarity with human misery

it was already shelling who wrote god is

a life not merely a being

but all life has a faith and is subject

to suffering and becoming without the

concept of a human humanely suffering

god all of history remains

incomprehensible why because god's

suffering implies that he is involved in

history affected by it not just as a

transcendent master pulling the strings

from above

god's suffering means that human history

is not just the theater of shadows but

the place for real struggle how about i

do this instead how about i read the

paragraph and just like paraphrase what

jesus is trying to say because i don't

think the majority of you are following

this right

like if you want to read the whole thing

just read it by yourself i'm going to

paraphrase okay

so what jesus saying in this paragraph

is that

instead of either saying that god is

totally sovereign and totally omnipotent

or saying that he's not omnipotent

what you have to opt for is saying that

god himself

uh

he somehow internalizes this

contradiction in the form of suffering

so it's only a suffering god can save us

the way in which you explain the problem

of truth and meaning why is there such

great evil in the world and how is this

compatible with the existence of a god

what jesus will say or how should i put

it evil's too loaded let's say how could

a god exist alongside

so much suffering in the world right

what jizek will say here is that the

solution has to be this that god himself

is somehow suffering

alongside humanity as well that god is

not like this

guy who you know he

has the meaning of all the suffering

what jesus saying is this right

when we witness all this suffering in

the world and we ask what's the meaning

of it all

zizek is saying that god himself does

not have the meaning he suffers

alongside of us

that's what jesus is saying right

so

let me continue

this music's also saying this thoughtful

paradoxically proves why kind of secular

or atheistic

reactions to you know these horrors and

and horrific things that happen in the

world are insufficient because in order

for them to be actually worthy of the

depth of how evil and and disturbing

they really are

they need to kind of have like this

metaphysical dimension right you can't

just say oh yeah um the holocaust was

just an expression of human evil there

has to be this dimension of like

there's just this metaphysical evil

about it right like um

it's something that shakes the core of

our being right it's not just you know

uh

like oh this was just like a wrong moral

axiomatic logical mistake or something

right

um let me continue

so he's basically saying

is basically referring to this kind of

jewish theology right this is his view

not mine remember that right

um

according to which

there's this problem of being able to

like

find how how can how can an event like a

horrible thing that happened in the past

how could that be redeemed in some kind

of messianic moment is it possible that

that could be rendered meaningful in any

kind of way

and jesus basically saying

that

the reason it can't

right

is

only something that we can actually make

sense of

in protestantism right

that in the relationship between man and

let's say the divine meaning or divinity

right or god whatever you want to

[ __ ] call it

there has to be a stage of total

humiliation

where there's just this absolute

alienation between man and god where

humanity cannot

know anything about

no it's not simply that humanity doesn't

know about what the meaning of it is

it's that

humanity has to be reduced to a

completely meaningless

contingency um

of the divine will

so this is the part that i wanted to

talk about right

uh

so he says do the three main versions of

christianity not form a singular

hegelian triad so this is ggx kind of

chauvinistic view like this is literally

why it's a short summation why is jesus

exciting with the west on ukraine well

i'll sum it up right here right it's

like right here

it's literally in this paragraph okay

this makes zero sense

uh i think you should just leave then i

honestly i think you should actually

leave the stream like if you're not

gonna put an effort

into trying to understand anything like

i i don't know what to tell you right

you can ask a question

uh but for you to just say it makes no

sense you're not contributing anything

to anyone you know if you ask a specific

question

maybe i could help you

but when you just say some [ __ ] like

that i really think you should just

leave right

we have no use to you

we have no use for you right

okay so um

so he condenses uh christianity into a

kind of triad right and it's also this

is very common in the west it's also a

kind of evolutionary like

from the least advanced the primitive to

the most advanced

so it begins with orthodoxy right then

catholicism then protestantism now

interestingly

um

russian authors like dostoyevsky make

this uh

comparison in the opposite they say all

of the problems began with catholicism

russian orthodox or orthodoxy was good

then the problem was catholicism

catholicism led to um protestantism and

then protestantism led to

atheism and then

or the enlightenment the enlightenment

led to atheism and bourgeois secularism

and then that led to

um atheistic communism right

there's actually a view shared by many

uh russian conservatives

and it's also a view shared by zijek

himself right

so

this is how g-jek represents it so for

z-jack this split is the hegelian triad

of the universal the particular and the

singular

and it can be designated by the three

representatives of the founding figures

john paul peter and paul

as well as by three races

slavic latin and german and this is

where you know kind of see why zizek's

getting a little you know he's showing

that sectarian aspect

that underpins his i'm not downplaying

the significance of his thought and the

contribution his thought

has made you know to history but he he

is a sectarian he's definitely a

sectarian right

um

you know

in eastern orthodoxy we have the

substantial unity of the text and the

corpus of believers

which is why the believers are allowed

to interpret the sacred text

because the text goes on and lives in

them

it's not outside the living history as

it is it's exempted standard and model

the substance of religious life is in

the christian community itself so that

it's it's basically the religion of an

asiatic mode of production right and

eastern orthodoxy

divinity is living in the community

itself it's living in the empire itself

there's this unity of the empire that's

between the individual the community and

the the empire as a whole right it's

communism basically

right

and then in catholicism you finally have

this alienation right

where

there's an entity there's an institution

that has to mediate

the interpretation of the founding

sacred test text and the corpus of

believers so there's no longer an

organic unity between the individual or

the community and the sacred text

it has to be mediated by this

institution that stands above and is

radically alien from us it's alien from

mankind and the community of mankind

right

but then in protestantism

the only authority is actually the text

itself there is no significance of the

community of believers

and the wager is on every individual

believer's direct contact with the word

of god as it was delivered in the text

the mediator totally disappears and

withdraws into insignificance

enabling the believer to adopt the

position of a universal signifier

the individual is in direct contact with

divine universality

bypassing the mediating role of the

particular institution

these three christian attitudes also

involve three different modes of god's

presence in the world we start with the

created universe directly reflecting the

glory of its creator

all the wealth and beauty of our world

bears witness to the divine creative

power

and creatures when they are not

corrupted

naturally turn their eyes toward him

this is also a view shared i

will also point out by islam

and probably judaism right

but catholicism shifts to a more

delicate logic

of the figure in the carpet

the creator is not

which direct

is not directly present in the world

his traces are be discerned in details

which escape the first

superficial glance

god is like a painter withdraws from his

finished project

signaling his authorship merely by

barely discerning signature at the

picture's edge

so if you want to put it like this in

orthodoxy according to jesuit you have

the whole picture is is the divine right

that's the that the whole thing is the

trace of the divine in catholicism

the trace of the divine is in a small

corner where you can barely see their

signature right

and then in protestantism

there's this radical absence of god from

the created universe

from this great world which runs as a

blind mechanism and where god's presence

only becomes discernible

in direct interventions of his grace

which disturb

normal course of things

um

by the way uh what does that remind you

of because it reminds me of um

landy and accelerationism right the

world is

this blind mechanism of or genetics

right it's just this blind mechanism of

you know

very clear right

this reconciliation however only becomes

possible after alienation is brought to

the extreme

in contrast to the catholic notion of

carry of a caring and loving god with

whom one can communicate or negotiate

protestantism starts with the notion of

god deprived of any common measure

shared with man

which is so it's a god of complete and

total alienation right

of god is an impenetrable beyond

who disturbs grace in a totally

contingent way

one can discern the traces of this full

acceptance of god's unconditional and

capricious authority in the last song is

some song right where he's basically

this you know zeus he's kind of reckless

because i would say this is a very

american understanding of protestantism

right and the very american

understanding of protestantism is um

is best exemplified in that um

that mark twain

claymation the stranger where like uh

the devil is just randomly it's

[ __ ] with humans or whatever that's

more the kind of american apocalyptic

view or that you know

just this completely arbitrary and

terrifying authority of divine justice

and divine wrath or what does kewanon

say right they say a storm is coming so

i mean that's the kind of very american

protestant view

people's brewster i i don't think he's

in misinterpreting it here i think it's

pretty accurate

i think you're misinterpreting what he's

saying

what does it mean in a contingent way

jijic uses the word contingent

uh in this way similar to kind of hannah

r

right contin and those people contingent

is like

um

uh

he means it is not random

but uh

not

not necessary by virtue of some

underlying reason that's how he uses it

so like when hannah arden says no

no not depend that's the dictionary

definitions

they use it in this sense of like

like facts are contingent which means

what it means they can't be explained

they don't have any inherent meaning

they're just totally contingent

and

they're do you need to

give them something to give them meaning

right that's what it kind of means

um

so

let's continue

this song is about armageddon the end of

days

martin luther directly proposed an

excremental identity of man

man is like a divine [ __ ] he fell out of

god's anus

one can of course pursue the question

into how the deep crisis

that pushed luther toward his new

theology he was caught in a violent

debilitating superego cycle the more he

acted repented and punished and tortured

himself did good deeds the more he felt

guilty this made him convinced that the

good deeds are calculated dirty and

selfish and far from pleasing god

they provoke god's wrath and lead to

damnation

salvation comes from faith it's only in

our faith

faith into jesus as our savior which

allows us to break the superego impasse

however his uh anal definition of man

can i love how people like people are so

immature

and they're gonna be like

you know i'm used to this that's why

it's like

i don't really i'm not

not laughing or anything cause it's like

okay how absurd i mean yeah that's z-j

right you have to [ __ ] um

be a little mature about it

cannot be reduced the result of the

superego pressure which pushed him

towards self a basement there's more to

it

uh it is only within the protestant

logic of man's excremental identity that

the true meaning of incarnation can be

formulated

so in orthodoxy christ loses his

exceptional status his very idealization

and elevation to a noble model reduces

him to an ideal image

a figure to be imitated all men should

be strived to become god

catholicism the predominant logic is

that of a symbolic exchange

um

catholic theologians enjoy dwelling in

scholastic uh arguments about how god

paid the price for our sins

and it's no wonder that

luther

basically like

reacted to the logical conclusion of

this which was the reduction of

redemption to something that can be

bought from the church right

protestantism finally

resists the relationship is real

conceiving christ as a god who in his

act of incarnation

freely identified himself with his own

[ __ ]

with the excremental reel that is man

and it is only at that level that the

properly christian notion of the divine

can be apprehended as the love for the

miserable excremental entity called man

so let me explain it to you very simply

guys

what geez saying is that

in orthodoxy you begin with this kind of

wholesome

unity of man and the divine

in catholicism this unity is

cut

but

there's still an institution which

represents this alienation and it's

within this institution

that you have all manner of like

scholastic discussions and and

exchange and selling of indulgences

which still makes it in the world but

it's only in protestantism where

the divine is so thoroughly and utterly

alienated from the world of humanity

and the world in general

that

the significance of incarnation

can actually be appreciated according to

zizek right the unity of the divine and

man in christ is really the unity of the

highest point of

let's say transcendence with the lowest

point of a basement so the unity of uh

it's truly a unity of opposites for

zizek

only in protestantism can you really

appreciate this as a unity of opposites

because in orthodoxy

according to zizek it's not enough

but um

to me the problem i'm not going to read

the rest of this because

i i don't think this is appropriate for

twitch you know i was just wanted to

experiment

with this type of content and it's

clearly like not possible to do

on twitch so

we're gonna cut it here but i'm gonna

draw the conclusion i wanted to draw in

the first place right

um

so here's my challenge to zizek here's

why gg is wrong

because zizek doesn't then ask the

question

uh

good call i'll admit i'm still stuck on

anal

yeah because you're ultimately immature

you're really not mature enough for this

kind of stream it's just i don't think i

think most people aren't right

you really can't you just can't look

past the toilet stuff and

um it makes me feel pity for you

uh

which is why i don't take you seriously

people want to ask me oh hus why don't

you take the internet that seriously

well this is why because it's like

people are so [ __ ] immature

and um

you know uh

i don't know what to say like jesus a

psychoanalyst and

i guess you know it's it's a little

absurd but

the point he's trying to make is this

this kind of excremental significance of

man in relation to

the divine like man is the lowest point

in this kind of

ontologically it's the lowest point

relative to god it's like

you know what i mean i think that's very

clear what what that's trying to say

like no matter what we do to try to be

good people we end up acting

on behalf of our basest and sinful human

instincts which are

depraved ultimately right

so that's what he means and the reason

that's uh ultimately anal or neurotic

right because uh anal fixation is

associated with um

like you know this kind of ocd

neuroticism is because

it leads us to like this position of

total suspicion and paranoia

toward

uh

the outer world right

and also ourselves right

so

i yeah in this area you have to

yeah my internet disconnected which is

really [ __ ] annoying and frustrating

but um

yeah my internet just disconnected i

don't know it's like that simple

but um

where did i leave off i was frantically

trying to like turn on my wi-fi and

where did i leave off exactly

okay yeah this is going to explain

um g-x uh

why he is siding with

the west and with ukraine

over russia

and i'm gonna break it down like this um

it comes down to the fact

that for gg

the orthodox the eastern orthodox and

just the east in general

its

view of their being meaning in the world

the divine in the world for zizek

is a kind of monstrous abomination which

allows

individuals to be able to perversely

um identify with the absolute

and with the divine right or with the

master signifier if you want to put it

in laquani in terms so for zizek the

russians are bad because i mean they

represent something bad i should say

um

because in their attempts to imitate

christ right

they are

taking something um

inherently excremental and a based

humanity

and

they are trying to like um

elevate that to the status of the divine

right

uh

yeah not just russians also sir it's a

it's a balkan theological dispute like i

said he's a sectarian okay

um jesus doesn't like he this let me put

it this way

in

psychoanalysis alienation is also

synonymous with castration right so for

him

the eastern peoples like russians for

example they're insufficiently castrated

the catholic church is this kind of

castrating institution which castrates

our jewish sons our enjoyment

and when he witnesses the russians who

are not victim to this uh

this castration this alienation

he sees them partaking in this almost

kind of demonic excess enjoyment that's

why they're calling russians wild orcs

and barbarians because they're they're

being accused of not being civilized and

why because they don't

alienate their humanity from themselves

in the same way that we do in the west

russians don't believe for example

in the need for checks and balances and

in the need for

um

you know uh

this self-limiting role of the state

russians believe the state can be

stronger and bigger because there can be

good in the world there can be the

divine meaning in the world right

well westerners interpret that as

satanic they interpret that as demonic

right how can there be

how can that exist in the world the

world is evil we humans are evil we are

the divine excrement right doesn't that

make zizek fundamentally anti-communist

yes it does

i mean i've never

um

denied that he is i mean first of all in

the practical sense he was an

anti-communist because of his role in

the dissolution of yugoslavia

he is unabashedly an anti-communist his

identification with communism

does not con

does not come from an identification

with communism in a historical sense as

a like positive

thing

it comes from communism in the negative

sense of the the problem posed by

communism

right in that sense he's a communist but

he's not a communist in any positive

sense and he's said as much right

but for zizek

is this alienation found in the belief

of original sin um

no i think it's not found it's that

doesn't have its origins there but

that's a symptom of that view of

alienation

as i was what i would say but um

so for him we have orthodoxy which is a

naive unity of man

and god

and then in christianity it's a kind of

mediating right

there's an alienation there's a cut but

it's still the institution at least is

still in the world

and then there's protestantism right

which is a complete and total severance

between

divinity and man christ and man right

now where does zizek end up with the

problem

so here's what i'll grant g-check

uh i will grant zizek

that in protestantism this alienation is

accomplished and taken to its furthest

conclusion

i mean marx understood as much he

directly said as much right um

but then you have to ask

a question

zizek talks about how in protestantism

the highest and the lowest are truly

united

because

uh

they're alienated as much

as possible to the furthest extent

um

but he never asked a simple question and

this is the question i posed to him

which

uh leads to a complete in my view

dissolution of zijk's whole philosophy

his whole philosophical enterprise

my question is then what

what does jesuit tell us after this

radical unity happens he says oh now

there's an openness of possibilities and

revolution it's a bluff it's [ __ ]

this is how leftists speak

all the open possibilities of a radical

emancipatory community it's total

[ __ ] it doesn't exist in the world

that's not a real thing

it's never been a real thing and it will

never be a real thing

the truth is

is that the positive being of this such

unity is already reflected in the first

uh instance of the triad which is

orthodoxy and that is my critique of

zizek he does not allow this unity to

ever be a real thing jizek says in

orthodoxy

um

the

singular and the universe sorry in

orthodoxy it's just the universality

what zizek doesn't understand

is that

this such

unity he views

as accomplished in protestantism it is

precisely that such unity which is the

object of eastern civilization

that such unity is the basic question of

how do human beings live

how do they form communities how do they

feed themselves how do they form states

how do they exist

how do they be as human beings

he doesn't think that's an important

question he only cares about the radical

emancipatory horizons of possibility

opened up

that doesn't address the basic [ __ ]

question of how we feed ourselves here

and now what is

here and now right

so it's ultimately a kind of parasitical

stance in order to be able to accomplish

the western alienation you have to take

the meat and potatoes for granted which

only exists and is provided as an

infinite source of nourishment by the

west this is what the west does here the

east is baking a piece of pizza russia

bakes europe a pizza

and then

europe takes the pizza eats it and goes

oh i hate this pizza i oh the the world

is depraved the world is great and then

in order for you to call the world

depraved the world has to be something

in the first place

and it's it only somehow becomes

anything from russia or from the east

right by the way uh the pizza is like

gas it's like the russian gas right

that's why my thesis is mongol modernity

european enlightenment is just the

reflexive form

of the real material meat and potatoes

which was produced

by the east

through the mongol con all this

it seems silly like why are the mongols

the chosen because

it's just because of how arbitrary it

was like the mongol it's just the

arbitrariness of this particularity

which proves it's from material reality

it's not something you chose it's not

the ideal citizen it's not the ideal

community it's not the ideal story of

enlightenment you invented it's the real

world and the real history of humanity

right

um

what

why don't you [ __ ] uh uh elaborate

your question

but you know g-check does raise an

interesting question a question by the

way dugan himself

has entertained this question

which is this

the west does do something

in this alienation

it is a kind of real enlightenment and

dugan says he dugan uses the example of

heraclitus

in his book political platonism

and his example of heraclitus is as

follows

heraclitus says all is one

all is one

and dugan says we russians

we

we scoff at this we say so what we know

all is one we all we have a universal

view of

individuality with the collective in the

community this is not an insight

heraclitus is known for his sweeping

statement

all is one

and dugan says we russians cannot

appreciate this statement we cannot

appreciate this statement because for us

all is already one

and then dugan says

in order to appreciate

this claim of heraclitus that all is one

we must

accept the painful alienation between

the one

and the all

and you can put this in the terms of

there is here

there is here to appreciate the

statement there is here

we have to submit to the pain

of there

and then dugan says uh

it's the same as logos is chaos

right

so

the accomplishment of the west is

theirness its alienation

but

this still does not

uh address the

the problem of the west though

comes from the way it tries to turn this

moment of negative alienation

into a a positive being in and of itself

and from this we get colonialism racism

slavery nazism

genocide and all of that nasty stuff

alienation and negation become

itself the only real thing

there's no return to a positive being

so the question we must ask ourselves is

this

how to return to the positive being

let's say of orthodox christianity or

let's say of the eastern civilization

without becoming stupefied and

dulled and complacent and comfortable

and lazy

that's what eastern thinkers always

force on themselves the same question

how do we maintain

an ability to

be alienated from ourselves

or to be cognizant of this alienation

to me that is

that is the preeminent question

uh

humanity that's the preeminent

philosophical question

for humanity

and my thesis

is that the west has ceased to be a

creative force

in

world history that the west is basically

over right

my basic thesis thank you jackson

appreciate the raid uh

my basic thesis is that it's over right

china and russia have already integrated

this self-alienating uh

negation into

their own civilization in the form of

the experience of communism

which they still haven't fully

reconciled themselves

with with

so

alternatively we are reaching the

decisive point in the history of

humanity where the west and the east

have to finally

unite

or if you want to put it in theological

terms right

man must be united with

the divine

however alienated from the divine

has to be united

it's a very troubling paradox it also

seems to be um

to me

a paradox with a sexual dimension

because

the difference of east and west

sometimes seems to me to be as

formidable

as the difference between

man and woman which is just this

unbridgeable difference

all the difference never changes only

takes his new form

how do you not so you do you not agree

with zjek no i don't i don't agree with

g jack on the succession

specifically

i don't agree

with the secession because

he's only talking about a secession that

makes sense from the western perspective

itself

um

but from the perspective of positive

being it's an opposite

succession

from the perspective of positive being

which jesus does not ever

care to address

jesus gets everything

opposite everything opposite his whole

uh ontology the opposite is true

the complete opposite

scott scott ritter's twitter was

reinstated nice

he's in yeah it is benign

um and the specific thesis is that uh

this is done through sublation into

an object

one object which sublates this

uh

so for marx

hegelian alienation between the state

and man is sublated in the proletarian

class

that's why the proletariat is the object

of marxism right

and marxism is what the subject

consciousness so the unity of object and

so you know lucox had that whole

[ __ ] but lucas was wrong because now

we are confronted with a question of

objectivity

um that can't be reduced to the class

it can't be reduced to the question of

the ali imposed by the alienation

between um

the state and man

there is also a a

a lacking objectivity as to the question

of for example the relationship

between um

ideology and reality or the relationship

between um

uh

a fantasy in reality something like that

right this is what it's a lacking

objectivity today

by the way gg's first book is called

sublime object of not his first is what

most well known it's called sublime

object of um

algae doesn't the gtx ontology involve

an anti-human perspective in a way

yes i mean directly yes

basically leads us to a genocidal view

of uh

eastern civilizations and specifically

orthodoxy he can't appreciate orthodoxy

what it is

it's specific reverence of christ its

specific um

theology he has no ability to appreciate

beyond reducing

to a moment of um

this philosophy right so it's a problem

i'm not thinking of getting zizek on

stream at all

uh for political reasons his comments on

the ukraine crisis uh

i don't think there's any

commensurability between us you know

like

he's not a guy who just talks with

anyone you know and i'm just not in his

camp you

know he doesn't talk with his enemies

you know and i think i am probably an

enemy you know uh

so i was really shocked what he said

about he didn't even have any nuance he

just went full genocidal sectarian

when it came to the ukraine crisis

saying that russia needs to be castrated

you know which is a typical kind of west

christian uh

genocidal view i don't think that's any

there's no humanity to such a statement

you know

i know he was pen pals with uh [ __ ]

riot and stuff

anyway guys i gotta go

um going it's approaching bedtime

so i'll see you guys uh

i'll see you guys uh

tomorrow hopefully much earlier than

usual

bye guys

you