RED CHRISTMAS - BLOODY DEBATES

2025-12-26T02:38:54+00:00
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Merry Christmas, everyone.
I'm just kidding. What the fuck do I look like?
Do I look like Santa Claus to you, bitch?
Do I look like Santa Claus?
Do I look like Santa Claus?
Do I look like Santa Claus?
Sorry.
Well, guys, I hope you had a wonderful Christmas.
I hope you had a great Christmas.
I hope you had a wonderful time.
I hope you had an enjoyable one.
I hope you had a enjoyable one. I hope you had a memorable
one. But
you know that
Iowa, what's going on, bro?
So I got an announcement to make.
First announcement. We brought back text to speech donations so if you go below this the stream
if you go um below the stream there's my face and you can um you can donate you can you can
have the text of speech
we'll give it a try
I don't know guys
I don't know
this is opening up Pandora's box
but it's there.
And I'm making this official announcement.
We have text to speech, okay?
Somebody should actually just try it out.
If you're going to donate a sub,
like one sub,
just like, you know,
donate like five or something and just test it out you know you'll be
the first person to have done it you know so uh yeah i i have that implemented and um so guys uh we're going to be doing our our confront the chairman in space we're going to be
debating all these people about uh about jeans and other things because that's a hot topic it's a
really it's a fun topic for a lot of people,
the thing about genes,
because a lot of people are just coping.
They're just fucking retarded,
you know?
They're like,
whoa,
we found jeans.
We found some jeans.
Phil,
what's going on,
bro?
They're like,
whoa,
we found some jeans. We found them.
And they're like, all they're talking about are just parts of the DNA that sometimes, you know, can
correspond to phenotypical traits because they, because the traits happen to directly depend upon a specific mechanism for the production
of proteins. But those same DNA, those same, you know, patterns within the DNA, they can actually
code for different proteins and the same proteins can be coded for by other strands of the DNA.
So it functionally doesn't even satisfy the definition of a gene.
But even if it did, it still wouldn't be a gene.
Sasello added five to the war chest love from England.
That is so cool.
So say, what's up, bro?
But, you know, it's a little disturbing, honestly.
It's like, it's just kind of like, whoa, okay.
It's kind of like I'm getting shot.
Dark underscore NRG added five to the
war chest grunch maxing.
Okay.
Okay.
By the way, the...
Iowa worker added five to the war chest genes are fake.
That's correct. What's up, iowa you see the the guy who reads it i can't
find a good voice all right they only give me two options skinny stallin what's up bro why did that notch
go through yo skinny Stalin
what's up
like I have no idea why it doesn't go through guys is the number one victim of racism in the world i'm here to bring you the truth regardless of
people's racial biases all right i'm just the number one victim of racism in the entire world, but I still...
I'll still tell you exactly what you need to hear.
Sorry, what's up?
People use the voice to troll with naughty, banable words.
I'm not on Twitch, so that's not my fucking problem.
You know, that's just, like, kind of not my fault.
Like, it's not my problem.
Someone wants to say a bad word on it, like, that's not my fault.
It's like Twitch would ban me for that.
I'm not endorsing it.
I can't control what people fucking do. I mean, maybe there's a way I could. I'm not endorsing it. I can't control what people fucking do.
I mean, maybe there's a way I could. I don't know.
This is a lemon smoothie, but it actually has the lemon.
They very lazily just
threw lemons in the blender.
And so I'm
chewing the skin of the lemons.
Which is quite good for you, actually.
It's actually quite good for you actually it's actually quite healthy for you anyway
yeah this is my grinch drink
I'm grinch maxing you know what it is
and guys you know why I'm grinching is
because I saw this thing I saw this study
people are still paying off credit card debt for the Christmas of 2024. And people take on new debt for the holiday season. So Christmas has become a holiday to just trap people in credit card debt. That's just what it's become. It's very sad. But, you know, some people enjoy
Christmas. I can't blame them. I'm sure, you know, if I had kids, I'd enjoy it. For sure. If I had
children, I would enjoy Christmas. If I had children, I would tell them about Santa Claus. That whole thing,
it'd be wonderful.
But I'm a 29-year-old grown man who does not have kids,
so I'm the Grinch, you know.
You can't fault me, you can't fault me you can't blame me it's as simple as that
and so guys
we're going to have a wonderful Christmas stream
you know by the way shout out all y'all.
Y'all are, y'all are doing it right, okay?
You know how many clips I saw of me go viral?
Thanks to y'all.
By the way, shout out Durham Operations, okay?
That guy knows what he's doing.
You got to keep me in the spotlight.
That's just how we do it,
you know?
You want to,
this is how we wage guerrilla warfare
against people trying to gatekeep.
It's like, oh, you're trying to gatekeep, bitch.
We're going to fucking blow your 4-you page up.
We're going to force you to pay attention.
We're going to force the spotlight in our favor.
And there's these who-name Groypers, I guess, who dedicate time to me.
I don't exactly remember their names.
But I'll tell you this, it's worth it.
Absolutely.
We should pressure every single Groyper lieutenant to debate me because either way we win.
Okay.
Option one, they debate me.
Option one, they debate me.
Okay.
If they debate me, even the lowest Groyper lieutenant, if they debate me, you send shockwaves
throughout their entire fucking community, and you build pressure for the, uh, the new Groypers that will levy on, uh, on Fentes to debate me.
They'll put that pressure upwards. Like, this guy's fucking wiping your lieutenants left and right.
You know, let's see if your boss can take him.
I'll go through the whole circuit.
Destroy the entire hierarchy, right?
Or if they ignore me, they decide not to debate me, right?
In that case, you're just adding
to my...
You're just adding to my
repertoire. Like, there's nothing you can do,
bitch. I'm invincible. I'm immortal. I fucking win.
I'm the person you can't name. you can't confront, you can't debate.
It's like we inadvertently shape the discourse anyway. You know, it goes in our favor.
So these guys, I'd love to debate them, whoever they are.
I think one of them's like a 40-year-old guy pretending to be a zoomer or something.
Or some weirdo.
I don't know.
What do you guys think?
Just kidding. Why the fuck am I asking your opinion?
I know what I'm doing.
This is not matcha. This is a fucking, this is lemon.
Thrown into a blender.
But they gave me a fucking straw so you think it's fucking macho. Holy shit.
I'm chewing the skin of the lemon, all right?
Whoever designed this shit.
I can't vouch for it.
I don't know what's going on, all right?
Anyway, y'all, let's get the space going.
As a performative Stalinist, as a...
I'm not reading chat anymore.
You want me to fucking read your message?
Then fucking text the speech.
That's the only way I'm going to fucking read your message, then fucking text the speech. That's the only way I'm going to acknowledge it.
Okay?
Anyway, we're going to get right into it.
We're going to start the debate.
We're going to, and I want to teach you guys something.
Okay. Um, um, um, um, All right. Hold on.
How do we do this?
There we go.
Starting the space.
I'm going to teach you guys something.
Okay?
And you better fucking listen.
You better listen.
You better listen to me carefully.
This is Christmas.
Don't be fucking around.
Okay.
Every single person who's watching this right now, every single person, I'll give a fuck who you are where you from you have to boost the fuck
out of this space i don't care if you got to wake up your grandma i don't care if you have to go
to the you got to tell santa claus i don't care what it is i don't care what you have to do.
You have to retweet this.
You have to boost it.
You have to spread it everywhere.
Otherwise, no one's going to see it.
Who's going to see it?
No one's going to see it.
It's got to be all over everyone's timeline.
Okay?
And that's the only way we do this.
All right.
This is the captive dreamer.
Is it him?
Captive Dreamer, go ahead.
Why are you a retard?
I am your slave what I am your mindless
obedience slave
what the fuck get rid of this fucking weirdo
bro what am i dealing with
the fuck was that
was that captive dreamer that's him
the fuck was that a zombie that was an actual zombie that was an actual fucking mummy
buddy it's christmas it's not halloween why. Why are zombies rising from the grave on this occasion? Why am I being, why am I being besiezed by ghosts? Is this, what am I fucking, the Scrooge from the, what the fuck is that story? am the ghost of christmas past
like what the fuck am i dealing with right this is
a direct consequence of you guys not
boosting the space
which you need to retweet you need to like you need to boost it you got to get
it out there or else we're not going to get you know what we need to everyone says i'm so unreasonable i'm the most reasonable person ever i'm just the world's biggest
victim of racism of all time i'm just the world's biggest victim of racism and you know what
you know redditors leftist reditors, you need to do better.
You guys are a bunch of racists because I'll be very reasonable.
I'll be very rational.
It just falls on deaf ears.
Same thing is true for the right.
So, you know, what can I conclude?
The white race just needs to stop being so racist.
I'm just the biggest victim of racism in the world.
So where are they? Where are these people who challenge what i say where are these people who challenge
my genius claims i mean they get dog walked every single time you know these people believe that
DNA uh DNA segments are genes
even though every single DNA segment
that corresponds to the production
of a specific protein
usually can produce
different proteins if activated by
the metabolism differently or that same protein can be
manufactured by a different gene on the genome based on the metabolism so the entire DNA the entire
what they call the genome everything it does is determined by the external metabolism, which crosses the Wiseman barrier.
So that alone just destroys, destroys genes.
Who's this checkmark in my chat?
I can't see you, buddy. I'm wearing sunglasses. I'm too
cool for your fucking total jug. Jughead. Buddy, if you want to debate the topic, you get in the
fucking VC. You get in the Twitter space and you defend it.
Okay?
If you believe in genes, you're just straight up retarded.
Like, I don't know what to tell you.
If you believe in IQ, you...
And by the way, this is not ironic.
Like anyone, I'll take them to task on this.
Very easily can destroy anyone on this topic.
All right, these guys just typing shit.
You're just typing shit in my chat.
That could be a bot for all we know.
They may have a checkmark,
but you know,
the latest Google Gemini,
they're saying it's indistinguishable from a Rediter,
or sorry, the latest chat CBT is and distinctions from a Reditor.
So that guy sounds like a Redditor.
That doesn't seem like a human being to me.
That seems like a bot.
Anyway, you know, I am the king.
These people are fucking terrified of me for a good reason because I just destroy them.
You know, not a single one will debate me.
They won't even confront me with like, what do you have to say?
You call me stupid.
Name a single stupid thing I've ever said.
Okay.
Name a single stupid.
You don't have social awareness.
Oh, I'm aware.
I just don't care.
Like, what am I supposed to be responding to?
They're like, he's stupid because he doesn't have any social awareness.
It's like, you're literally like, are you talking about like this kind of feminine trait of, I don't know,
judging status, someone, like, I don't give a fuck about any of that.
Why would I care?
I care about the meat and potatoes.
I care about you make a claim, can you defend it?
I care about what business do you have to stand on.
I care about what results do you have to stand on. I care about what
results do you have to show? Like, why the
fuck would I care about some feminine
games?
I'm cooler than you. I'll bitch
slap you into the concrete. That's my response
to you. What does that have to do with anything
that fucking matters, right?
Let's get the fucking meat and potatoes. These people are salad eaters. You know, they just
eat salad all day. There's nothing there. There's nothing going on there. Completely
meaningless.
Well, you don't know how to talk to people.
I know how to dominate people with my words,
and I know how to be honorable with people who I consider my equals.
That's all that matters.
You know, trying to be the most likable
popular person in the room
is for fucking losers.
Because I don't want you bitch-ass people to like me.
I don't want anyone to like me.
Everyone who's here is here by necessity.
He's got 3K followers.
Okay.
I'll debate anyone and everyone, no matter how irrelevant they are.
Who's going to be a co-host for the space?
Is Sewell here?
Sewell's not here.
Sewell actually has a life.
He's celebrating Christmas.
Even this light.
Because it's California at 7 p.m. over there.
You know.
7 p.m. over there. What can you do?
Well, guys, I want you to understand something. People have been outraged by the claims made that genes are fake. On the timeline, you look on X, everybody's freaking out. They're making, they're responding, they're reacting in all these ways. They're talking about how stupid they think we are. But none of them have a response. They get in this VC and they try to speak their peace and make one consistent rational argument in favor of genes. They get bitch slapped into oblivion. They can't sustain any of it. Okay. And, you know, the Groypers, their leader, Nick Fuentes, I'm sorry to break it to you guys. He watches all these political streamers watch me. It's just a fact. Even Hassan Piker watches me.
They all watch me.
Everyone watches me.
And they're like, well, you're so irrelevant.
Why do all these people watch you?
And it's like, well, because it's kind of like an
esoteric thing it's kind of like only uh only people who um you know consider themselves to be
people of taste only people who would you have to say they, they regard themselves in an avant-garde
capacity. You know, these are the people that watch me, because I'm a trendsetter, you know,
I'm, I'm the source of the cattle don't want, the Goyim cattle don't watch me because they're too stupid, right?
And even these influencers are cattle.
They are Goyim cattle, but you know what?
They at least try to keep up.
They try their best to be a student of mine, even if I fail them every time.
Anyway, guys, we need to talk about how I don't have any enemies who can debate me.
I'm the scariest person in the world because I'm the biggest victim of racism.
I'm the Osama bin Laden of online politics.
Wow, the Twitch automatically deletes the word goy.
Who's this guy?
Is this an oxster? All right.
The only person requesting this, bring this Jewish person up.
Sorry, the Israeli.
The only person who's
requesting is that weirdo.
I'm not bringing
that. That's not captive dreamer.
I'm not bringing them on.
I'm not bringing them on.
I'm not fucking bringing them on.
That is not captive dreamer.
That's something else.
All right.
Hold on.
What's this?
This person's name,
Hey,
I'm gonna bring them on.
Hi, why are you a retard?
Yo!
Yo! What's going on?
How are you done?
Hey, do you believe in jeans?
Um, I'd like to think so.
I think they look sexy on me.
What the fuck?
I'm talking about the Mendel-Morganist
fallacy, the fallacy,
the complete folly, the complete invention,
the complete hoax, the fairy tale.
Yeah, the ones the scientists claim are real.
Okay, yeah, like DNA?
No, because DNA is not a gene.
So do you believe in genes?
Oh, I mean, I don't, I'd like to think so.
Oh, so? You're just cattle. You don't even I'd like to think so. Oh, so you're just cattle.
You don't even think about it.
All right.
You just haven't thought it through.
What does this have to do with Croypers?
They believe in genes.
They're subscribers of the, you know, the Mendel Morganist view. They believe in the German retard Wiseman who was cutting off the tails of rats and then breeding them and saying that they still grew tails. And he thought this disproved Lamarck. And Groyper's eat this
up and they believe that.
But I mean, doesn't
everybody? No, they
specifically are attached to it and
they're like, you know,
that when you say the Matrix, when people
start questioning the fake reality,
they're sending the Groyper specifically on this topic of the genes to push back.
That's who they send.
Well, I mean, with all due respect, have you debated Nick Bontos on this?
He won't. Are you kidding? That guy will never debate me.
He's terrified.
But I mean, you've collared with
him before.
No.
When have I colluded him?
I remember specifically. He was like
mitigating some kind of beef you had with destiny.
Oh, you mean during the Ukraine war where he
wanted to talk to me? Yeah, I didn't even know who he was.
I didn't know anything about him.
And I was like, well, these things people say about him,
people say shit about me.
So I was like, I'll just talk to him myself, see what he thinks.
When I talked to him in that conversation,
he disavowed racism. He disavowed any notion of the
superiority or inferiority of races
he
uh you know he was trying to sound
reasonable in a way he was just like well i'm just kind of
like a i believe in a kind of populism
you know he said he was a Well, I'm just kind of like a... I believe in a kind of populism.
You know... He said he was a kind of a...
You know...
What do you call it?
Non-racial nationalist.
You know, multiracial nationalist or whatever.
So I was just like, whatever.
I mean, I guess I just took what he was saying at face value.
And nothing struck me.
Yeah.
I was just going to say, I thought you guys had a good report.
I actually thought it was great content.
Let me try to remember.
Those are a long time ago.
Back then,
I was basically
at war with Destiny because Destiny was trying to
de-platform me over Russia, right?
And
I remember Nick
was trying to be Destiny's best friend.
So he was trying to collaborate with Destiny. He was trying to work
with Destiny. And, trying to work with destiny.
And, you know,
so that, that immediately, I was just like, this is like,
this guy's like, must be a Fed or some shit. I don't know.
Well, so anyways, I was going gonna ask, would you, would you box Nick Fontess if you're so high and mighty?
Maybe.
Because, I mean, I'd like to think I can make it up and I also contact with
um, for a general
and I'm not sure if he would do it,
but I'm just curious if you'd be down.
Um,
not necessarily totally closed off to it.
All right.
I like to hear that.
But that's
good a debate, though.
Yeah, I mean, I would like to see that, too.
I don't think Nick really debates a whole lot of people like yourself, though.
I mean, he said I killed Charlie Kirk.
Oh, yeah.
Sorry, yeah, I completely forgotten about this lore.
Right.
You can't... And by the way, look, sometimes I feel bad.
Because I have a pretty niche community.
We don't really mention other influencers.
But then it's his own lieutenants who are just constantly...
I mean, we had people post clips of me. They're the ones buzzing around it. They're the ones
bothering us. And then I think again, it's like they're saying, oh, well, you're just cloud
chasing. And it's like, well, what is he doing with Candace? Why is Candice? Oh, like, why is he
bothering Candace? Candice barely mentions him. She gets like 300,000 concurrent viewers.
If I was like him or
these other influencers all i would be doing is cloud chasing by mentioning them all the time
because that's what they fucking did when they were in my position that's all all they did. They just constantly concerned themselves
with what other influencers were saying.
I barely do that.
But, you know,
is what it is.
No,
the group was due to do that.
They swarm.
They're like to swarm people.
And, you know, they're pretty
relentless. Jimbo
Beardson, I'm sure
they're attacking you.
And they're just
jealous of Candace.
That's my opinion. You just jealous of Candace. That's my opinion.
You said jealous of Candace?
Yeah.
And me too.
They're jealous of me too.
I mean, I don't know.
I mean, because you are a commoner.
You're kind of across the other side of the aisle or whatever.
Yeah, but I just keep throwing, I keep launching ICBM missiles in their, in their worldview. I keep shattering their psych, their consciousness.
I'm winning the war of the mind.
Let's say you can't debate, Nick.
Pick a group of general.
I'll debate literally anyone.
There's Jimbo.
You got Daltonton Cloud Shelter.
I mean, anyone
in particular, you don't care?
Send anyone. Send them
right now.
You know, and I'm just remembering that, you did have
a Noholds bard faced with you know, and I'm just remembering that you did have a no holds barred
face with
uh
golden cloth out there and beers
and bearding and I didn't go too well
if I remember correctly
what are you talking about?
I was just saying you have a serious
attitude you know
and like that's fine
and they're a little
they get a little silly
I think that's
that's what I was
refresh my memory of who you're talking about
you went in a space
with no holds bar with Paul Allen.
Okay.
I remember you were 45 minutes late.
I'm pretty sure.
And then...
Was that the podcast they did?
And I joined and all they were doing is talking about penises and stuff?
Yeah, they have a lot of
little butt humor, whatever, you know.
I didn't fuck with it.
You know, I just, I don't know
what type of people. I try to categorize
what type of people they are.
Like, in the real life context.
And I'm just like these
this is like weird
these are weirdos what the fuck is this
like I don't fuck with this
is not my crowd
yeah no
and I wasn't trying to denigate you me
I'm a pretty serious guy as well
so you know I guess it's not
about being serious, okay?
Everyone knows I was on Twitch, okay?
I didn't have to be serious all the time.
They were straight up cringe.
The problem is they were cringe.
It's not about serious, not serious.
They were on some crins,
like, what the fuck is this?
Yeah, I mean, I can see that, because
Beardsman Beardley is, like, he's pretty lame.
And, uh, I do see a guy here
is like Ray Cole, something. He's kind of Indian Goyper or something
Maybe he'll want to be
Ray go ahead
Go ahead
Hey now what's up uh happy holidays to everybody i don't know she'd celebrate christmas but uh i mean look if designers were burning that christmas trees and i'm going to celebrate christmas just for that
but uh merry christmas to everybody else in here xmas whatever running at Christmas trees and I'm going to celebrate Christmas just for that. But
Merry Christmas to everybody else in here.
X-mas, whatever.
But what do you call? Yeah, I mean, those
guys there, Dalton and Claude Fester
fucking Knowles Bar.
It's just one of those, you know, I've been
trying to, like, distance myself
from people like that on here. I just
noticed, like, larger accounts don't...
I don't care, bro. Come on. Let's talk about...
Okay, really. I'll address
the title, destroying Groopers.
Bro, I don't consider myself a fucking Groyper.
What is that? Jeans and IQ. I mean, I've always said myself a fucking great per what is that genes and IQ.
I mean, I've always said that
like, you know, intelligence is fluid and you can exercise
it. That's how I feel. I think like
intelligence is kind of like a muscle
and there is atrophy. I mean, if you're
like, you know, I don't know, playing the same
video games over and those.
It's just, just not very interesting.
Banana, go ahead. Shadow, what's going on, bro?
So, um, so I, I do not like grapes just for the record. Um, so I, I do not like Graper's just for the record. Um, yeah, I'm against Graper's. Don't, okay. And with genes and IQ, honestly, man, I don't even know
like the validity
of like IQ testing
being like an accurate measure
of like overall intelligence
just like in general
like I just don't even like it comes from cyclone overall intelligence, just like in general.
Like, I just don't even, like, it comes from psychology, and I don't really
believe in psychology and psychiatry.
I'm kind of against it.
Okay. It feels like, it's just like a limiting, it's just like loses a limiting box against it. Okay. It feels like it's just like a limiting,
it's just like loses a limiting box
against people, in my opinion.
Okay, why don't you tell me something
I don't know though?
Like, um,
well,
I mean,
I don't know what you really want it here.
I mean, I like Jaden McNeil.
I think he's cool.
I like Patrick Casey.
Oh, Patrick Casey's that guy.
I don't like that guy.
I debated him.
I debated that guy. I destroyed him. He believed in white genocide in South Africa. What a ridiculous person.
Oh, wait, he did? That's Wow Alright
Edward retard
Go ahead
Why do you believe in jeans
Ha
Is it true
Nick Fontez
Like destroyed you
Like did Nick
actually
brutally rape you
Buddy Like is that true Okay like did Nick actually brutally rape you, buddy? Like,
is that true?
Like, did he, like, did Nick
sound like that? Did like,
did like, Nick, like, piqued out?
Oh, no, shut up. Let, let this, uh,
piss ant, subhuman speak.
So how, I mean, why did Jimbo zoomer and the Nick Fuentes, like, piss and subhuman speak so how did
Jimbo Zumer and the Nick
Flentes like brutally rape you
like why did they have
Are you autistic
Why did you do that?
Hold on you have to answer
Do you have any special needs at all
In school when you're in school Did you have any special. Do you have any special needs at all in school when you're in school?
Did you have any special classes?
Did you have any special...
Like, Hazz?
Why are you doxing me, bro?
Why are you doxing me, how's?
Like, Hazz.
Stop doxing me, bro.
Okay, so you're...
So you are retarded.
Like, Hazz, bro.
Stop doxing me, bro. Stop doxing me. Can you, why don't you actually...
Has, bro, stop doxing me, bro.
Hasel Deen, stop doxing me, bro.
This is so
incredibly unprofessional. I can't believe...
How's al-Din, bro. Why are you... I can't believe
how silly and ridiculous this person is. How's Al Dane, bro? Why you... I can't believe how silly and ridiculous this person is.
How's al-Dine, bro?
This guy's just a goofy goober.
I can't believe it.
Like, how's al-Dine, bro?
Admit that Nick Fuentes owned you, bro.
Okay?
Just admit that he wants to him.
Hold on. Shut up, shut up, shut up.
Nick Fuentes is scared of me, buddy.
I don't know what you're talking about.
No, he's not, bro.
What are you on about?
You actually think Nick's scared of you?
Yeah, that's why he won't debate me.
He's scared of your dying party?
Wow, that's powerful.
How is it dying?
Your party's going nowhere, buddy.
Do you actually think Nick is going to be, like, scared of your party when it only has like a few thousand members?
Like, please, nigga.
I mean, I mean, mean I mean he said I killed
Charlie Kirk so I don't know
that's like powerful
bro elite ball knowledge right there
he said I killed Charlie Kirk he said I did it
well who knows it was either
Mossad or was the ACP
yeah it was most yeah exactly it was either Mossad or is
ACP exactly I actually I agree it was either Mossad or was ACP
and Nick Fuentes thinks it was ACP though
well maybe maybe it was ACP, though.
Well, maybe, maybe it was ACP, but who knows? I think Nick Fuentes killed Charlie Kirk
on his story. So you're saying I killed Charlie Kirk and got away with it.
Yeah, how's you killed Charlie Kirk, bro? It's true.
And got away. And you have to add, you have to add, and got away with it.
Yeah, you got away. You killed Charlie Kirk a brutally husband. No way you get about you.
That's, wow. I must be the most powerful. Then he probably should be scared of me, honestly, because that makes me the most powerful person in America.
Do you have any fucking idea
what you're giving me with that?
You're saying I killed Charlie Kirk and I got away
with it, buddy.
Bowed that bitch, bowed out to me. I'm your fucking president now.
Shut the fuck up. I'm your president now. That's not cool, broed out to me. I'm your fucking president now. Shut the fuck up.
I'm your president now.
That's not cool, bro.
Stop killing people, Haizaldeen.
Like, Hazaldeen.
We're not achieving the socialist revolution like this, buddy.
I'm your president now.
You call me Mr. President.
Okay?
Because I own this country. I own everything. I can get away with that. Literally as well, we know this is going to be the new Lebanon. Okay. We know when the ACP wins. This will become the new Lebanon. Okay. Edward, I have a question. When did you become a groper?
How long have you been following that?
I became a griper the day I was born, by the way.
That's not an answer to my question.
Edward, why don't you, you know, you're acting in a very postmodern way.
Can you be sincere?
Can we have a sincere
expression of
your actual real beliefs? Can you be
serious for a second?
I'm very tired.
I'm on a, I'm on
siesta right now, Haas. I don't know if I can do that. I don't know what that is.
You don't know what the siesta
is? No. Is that
like a... Yeah, sorry. Haiz, I'm on the
siesta, buddy. See, all
Groyper's... You're on a Mexican holiday?
Hold on. Can you tell me if you believe in
jeans or not? Yeah, I believe in jeans, hars if you believe in genes or not?
Yeah, I believe in jeans, haze.
I believe in genes, which are like fake according to you.
So what is a gene?
Can you tell me that?
A gene's a gene, man.
All right.
So what is a gene?
A gene's a gene, man.
All right.
So are you, are you, are you willing to test anything you actually believe in any kind of way?
Defend anything you actually believe in any kind of way?
Has a gene is a gene, man.
Also you kill Charlie Kirk.
Why would you do that?
I don't know, guys.
I don't know.
This is just... Edward...
I'm just getting...
I'm just such a serious person,
and I'm so overwhelmed by the silliness here.
It's so impressive. It just takes
true intelligence to be this silly.
I mean, Haas, why can't... I don't think we should have
a serious debate if you think that genes are fake.
Why not?
Because that's so retarded, if you
think genes are fake.
Why is you retarded?
Go ahead.
Because you trust a guy who led to like
several mass famines
in the Soviet Union with two millions.
I don't know why.
Name one famine that
name one famine that was a consequence
of a licentuous agricultural methods. Literally you name one famine that was a consequence of
uh,
Lysenkoist agricultural method.
Um,
literally Ukraine.
Literally Ukraine, buddy.
And Kazakhstan.
Don't forget what happened.
Do you know the year that Lysenkoist agriculture was officially adopted in the USSR?
Oh,
Lodomer. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Don't forget the holodomer, buddy. was officially adopted in the USSR.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah. Don't forget the Holodomer, buddy. Remember.
What was the year of the Holodomor?
20s and 30s, I think. Probably the 30s.
20s and 30s, really?
Okay. Do you know when Lysenko is... Well, I did say also the 30s,
so you know. Okay, when did Lysenkoist
agriculture get adopted
by the Soviet Union? Oh, I'll know
30s. Look it up. Just Google it right now.
I'm too tired, Hyes.
I'm on a siesta. No, no, just Google it. Google it for me.
I'm on the siesta, Haas. I can't.
Okay. Google to me, when
Lysenkoist agriculture was officially
adopted by the Soviet Union.
Haz, I think you need to bring up more Groypers
on here, by the way.
I agree. If they request,
I'll bring them up.
Can you tell me how Lysenkoist agriculture was responsible for the famine in 32-33?
It was pretty simple.
The guy was retarded, that's why.
Well, I mean, but how does it even square?
What year was the Lysenkoist agriculture even adopted in the Soviet Union?
Can you tell me?
Oh, I don't know.
30s, yeah.
We're going to say 1930s.
Okay.
Is that your final answer?
Yeah, it's 1930s.
I'm going to just say that.
Since I'm on a siesta. that. Since I'm on siesta.
Okay, because you're on
siesta. So, did you call me
a retard, by the way?
Yeah, yeah, you are.
Okay.
How, when will you accept my membership into the American Congress?
Hold on, hold on, on, on.
In 2223, no Lysenkoist agriculture was not being implemented in Ukraine.
Powerful. was not being implemented in Ukraine powerful Okay
So but didn't you call me retarded
Didn't you call him?
I am on the siesta
So you know
I could be a little tired
Okay So you have an excuse You're otherwise a genius I am on the siesta, so you know, I could be a little tired.
Okay, so you have an excuse.
You're otherwise a genius, but you're just a retard because of, I don't know, you're on a drug or something?
The siesta, you mean?
So I'll have you know I'm a serious person.
I see right past your, you know, your, you're, you know, your, um,
silliness, okay, I'm very serious.
And therefore, um, you know, can you still birthing?
No.
I'm completely serious, okay? So, you know, this whole act you're doing, it just means nothing.
Okay, I'm a serious person.
That's like actually powerful. You're a clown.
Because, would you consider yourself
to be elite human capital?
What the fuck is that?
So, let's go back to the gene topic.
Why do you believe in genes?
Because I believe in genes.
Why?
Because I love jeans.
Can someone check this guy's profile and see see the things he says and what he does?
We're going to bring on this guy named.
Yeah, it says, yeah, it says he's in a poly.
Yeah, I'm a, I'm a based Democrat.
I'm a Democrat,. I'm a Democrat.
You're like a Richard Spencer guy.
Why are you Democrat?
I also,
Wait, Hiz. What's your opinion on Richard
Spencer, buddy? I want to know your takes.
I think he's just a guy who twists himself
into a pretzel.
Go ahead, Peru. Yo. Uh, a guy who twists himself into a pretzel. Hello?
Go ahead, Peru.
Yo, I am the official source
on all things, Peru.
This is the new source of Peru.
And I just want to say, in my time
as a reporter for Peru 67,
I've been to countless school.
They've all failed every IQ test.
In fact, the reason for, you know, our name, Peru 67,
the average IQ in Peru from our calculations is 67.
So I don't understand how you're going to say IQ is fake when, like, at least in Peru, every
Peru kid is just dumb as rocks.
Exactly.
See, that's a great argument.
So you believe in IQ?
Yes.
Oh, hi, I just got docks by one of your people.
They're saying that I'm a Mossad agent, which is like unfathably not true, by the way.
I'm not taking
Mossad money.
Well, I mean, you're Mexican. I don't think you are.
Why are you doxing me, bro?
Why are you saying that I'm a Mexican
Jew who lives in, like, a Tel Aviv?
Why are you doxing? I actually originate from
Israel.
I was born in a kibbutz, and the kids in Israel, they have
the highest IQ. Their IQ's
like 110.
Wait, serious question,
Haz. Do you support Free Chuck
Johnson by any chance?
Like, serious
question.
What do you think about that guy who got
ran over by the looks maxing?
Oh, that was the deserve, to be
honest.
What race was he? that's how you guys are making me feel right now i feel like i should run you
over right now and you're getting in front of my car
hans bro stop threading me i like, I feel like right now you're
jumping in
front of my
car with all this
stupid shit I'm
hearing.
And I want to
hit the,
I want to hit the gas.
I want to hit the gas
right now.
So,
Haz,
when will you tell
you're like
ACP niggers that, their doc fingers saying I'm a most side agent Hey I don't condone the use of that one. You're so, you're so edgy, you're so edgy and
powerful. Are you kidding? This guy's such a genius. He's so
But like, guys, can you tell them that like, I'm not a most
side agent? I'm like just, I'm just, I'm just, like, you're so smart because of
you're being sarcastic.
I'm just so ironic and I'm so sarcastic.
That makes me so smart and above it all.
I'm just such a, you just really are smart and above it all.
I'm a real last question though.
When will you let me join the American Communist Party?
Um, as soon as you give us your address and location and everything.
Okay.
12 Gloomond Street in Tel Aviv in the state of Israel.
Will you allow me now?
I'll tell Chahmanai. I'll be sure to
tell Chahmanai. Is there
by any chance a Zionist branch
in the ACP just for me, by the way?
Edward, you sound like a female.
Why are you dock boxing me even further?
Like, oh my God, bro.
Guys, this person's so ironic.
They're just so detached from all of it.
It's just like so. It's clearly
a demonstration of aristocratic superiority
how detached they are.
You know what you remind me of, Edward? You know, you know what you
remind me of, Edward?
You know what you remind me of?
You remind me of like a true
Aryan European aristocrat
who like has a castle who has like
That's literally not me though.
Hold on.
And you own like
You own like ski lodges and stuff
in the swiss alps you're just like above it all
dude you're like you don't even take anything
no no no no no dude you don't even take anything seriously
you're just so above it all dude it's the mark of a
it's literally it's literally the mark of a true. It's literally
It's literally the mark of... I'm Spanish
Hise. I'm not even... Can we raise
a toast? Can we raise a toast to your irony
and your, um, you know...
Oh, of course we can, has, of course. With chalky milk. Can you put
chalky milk in the wine glass? Of course, of course.
We can raise the toes to this Nietzschean aristocratic apolly.
It really is, though.
It really is.
Exactly.
This person is just, he would never lower himself to talking to a brown person.
Right? How's you're whiter than me. That's the thing, though. never lower himself to talking to a brown person, right?
So, you're whiter than me.
That's the thing, though.
But you would never lower yourself to this kind of discourse because, you know,
Haas is retarded, so we're not even going to try to be serious when we engage with him, right?
You have that pretence.
You're very confident. Haaz, I'm like a big fan of yours bro like why are you
hate him are you gonna address he's a big no i mean it's it's it's it's absolutely a demonstration
it's a marker of aristocratic superiority
that you'd be so ironic about this, genuinely.
I'm literally like, I'm like in the middle class.
I'm like a poor-ass...
I'm like, I'm like poor-ass...
It's such a marker of aristocratic superiority.
I'm like a poor-ass legal immigrant.
Like, I'm not even aristocratic.
No, I mean, this is, this is pure superiority.
This is pure mean girls.
You ever see the movie Mean Girls?
You're like that girl who's really mean.
She's pretending to be, like, nice and pretending, whatever, but it's actually mean.
It's like like catty.
That's what you said, you're going up.
You're going up in life, buddy.
It's like high status stuff.
I will take that to the heart, okay?
I trust you, Haas, okay?
I think you're actually dropping ball knowledge on me, okay?
I truly do.
Are you in band...
You're a band kid or no?
I mean, Haiz, you gotta, like, tell me tell me like more of these terms like you gotta give me some
info on these why why is your voice shaking and trembling when you talk i don't understand
why are you so nervous hos bro i'm literally like about to die bro.
I think he had a run in with comrades.
We have very high estrogen.
Very, very estrogenic. It's incredibly estrogen.
Wait, why is why are you being homophobic now?
It's just incredibly estrogenic i don't know what
maybe i don't have the intelligence to even respond to this i don't speak bitch i just don't
and now you're being misogynistic also wow i don't speak bitch i mean like i don't even know
what the irony here is like we, we're not, we're clearly not Redditors. Nobody cares. Like, what is this? I don't know. I mean, I don't know. Is this a guy? Maybe I'm using the wrong pronouns or something. Maybe this is a woman.
So you're being transphobic now.
But who is that even supposed to mock?
I don't understand.
I don't understand.
I'm too stupid to follow the humor.
Like, who are you even mocking right now?
Haas, I'm not even mocking anyone.
Besides yourself, or what? So you don't have any...
You don't have any arguments.
Yeah, I might have to go to my fiesta soon, okay?
So you're going to run away.
So, Edward, you were given an opportunity to just kind of make a point.
You couldn't.
You're pretending that it's above you to do that.
You're pretending like it's self-evident and whatever.
And it's like,
but at the end of the day,
buddy, you're a bitch.
And you know you're a bitch.
And that's,
you don't care.
Because the only people who care about their honor, who care about not being bitches are the ones who, you know, have business to stand on.
You don't.
You're literally just a little bitch.
And you're basically, like, chill out, bro.
No, you're basically like a goblin, you're like why are you chimping out bro
because I don't like goblins
I don't like these goblins in caves and under the
the bridge it's just like you're basically
challenging the world to beat your ass
I don't know what to tell you buddy
it's like you're basically
Can you put on the Libertarian Party
Esoteric Fascist Caucus up here
I think they'll debate you better than me to be honest
I don't see anyone requesting with that name
I need a I need a co-host let me hold on
Let me I can co-host. Let me hold on. Let me, I can co-host.
Sewell. What's up, Sewell? All right, Sewell's here. We're going to get a lot of people.
Because nobody can defend the notion of a gene. That's the thing.
It's completely fake and debunked. There isn't even a single
gene anywhere. And IQ
is totally fake. Nassim Nicholas Talib
debunked it. So this Peru guy
has no response to that.
You haven't even
your point.
Your point, which is... I've been to Peru. I've seen many children fail IQ tests.
Obviously, the IQ in Peru, the natural IQ in Peru is below
average.
In fact, we calculated it. I think
I've already told you this. I don't know if you were listening,
but the namesake of our
news site. It's like a 35-year-old man using
Gen A humor, right?
That's the mark of a high IQ person.
No, no, no, no, no.
No, just like a weird old person
who's trying to be like young and fresh, right?
No, no, no no no no if we've done multiple uh look at look at my look at my profile we've done multiple reports on peru also why do you need a fucking voice changer going into a Twitter space
all right cool can you bring up can you bring up uh
can you bring up uh can you bring up these other people that they're talking about
perugai do you have anything to say besides the fact of your retard who believes in IQ
despite the fact that it was debunked by Nassim Talib as a statistical and psychiatric fraud?
Okay, I just have one more question.
Yeah.
Why does this?
I need time for that one to process how funny it is.
You know, I need time to laugh at and stuff.
So we'll sleep on it. Anyway, Libertarian Party, go ahead.
I would like to just say what Edward Robinson claimed was completely false.
I did not request anything until after he said that.
I'm out, bitches.
You know what this reminds me of, guys?
You know what it is?
It's I-Carley.
This is so funny.
They should make...
You guys should...
You guys should contact...
What's his name
dan schneider
for a new season of iCarley because this is
just so random guys
this is so random
it's so funny it's so random guys
it's just so random
anyway uh suels anyone else requesting?
Yeah, there's a couple. There's some student
activist. There's a guy who I can't really tell
what he's up to. There's some kind of
actual. Is he hostile or is he friendly?
He's anti-Israel. That's one. That's his main posts.
Okay, so I think he's friendly. So we'll hold off.
And then there's one guy that's just called Haas destroying Groyper and his at is the N-word and then Com 88.
Oh, is that the guy I brought on earlier?
I have no idea.
Maybe check. Okay, that guy stopped requesting.
I mentioned that.
Okay, we're going to bring on
Okay, Ray can come back on
and he's the only one request.
Is there anyone else requesting besides Ray?
Yeah, the African Marxist guy, and then there's some guy called Virt.
Oh, do you know that's in here.
I wanted to ask two questions.
I'll play devil's advocate.
I do believe in genes and IQ to some degree, to some degree.
But I'm not, I think I'm prepared for a debate
on those subjects. So I can give you
my, and you know, I think I'm too
autistic to understand my fucking sarcasm,
bro. I, I, sarcasm actually
pisses me off. So I just speak
very honestly all the time.
But yeah,
so as for jeans,
I mean,
I guess like,
it's like my parents had brown skin or whatever I had brown skin.
I guess that would be like jeans.
And like IQ,
I figure, you know, like... All right, let's start.
Let's stop with jeans.
So you think genes are just heredity itself.
And the heretical characteristics.
Maybe you could define what you think genes are because you know genes means different things are other people
maybe it's the absolute yeah go ahead so i'll i'll make it very simple okay a gene
is a unit of heredity okay that's what a gene is it's a unit of heredity so Okay? That's what a gene is. It's a unit of heredity. So the idea behind a gene
is that you have a trait, you have any given trait, right? And that this trait is coded for as a type of information in some kind of unit, you know, some kind of corpuscle or whatever, of information.
And that this is what gets inherited across the generations.
You know, this little code, this code.
It's like code, computer code, right?
Yeah, so I can see that, not to cut you off.
I mean, I can...
Right, but it's not how organisms work.
All the phenotypes you see in an organism are the consequence of metabolic processes
that integrate everything.
So everything is interrelated.
So there's very few times you can isolate something from the metabolism and change it. Now, that doesn't mean
metabolisms can't change. Even with diet, even with your habits, your behavior, your, you know,
your level of exercise, even through medical interventions
through drug use all sorts of things
can alter your metabolism but the metabolism
can't change in a surgical way usually
where you know you have one
you know code for a trait and then you have a trait you just alter the code you get a new trait
that's not how the metabolism works in 99% of the cases the 1% of the cases where they do isolate traits that can be manipulated this way
that are altering you know strands of DNA for example where they do isolate traits that can be manipulated this way,
that are altering, you know, strands of DNA, for example.
That usually leads to structural instability,
and transgenic inheritance of the trait is not stable.
It's almost never stable.
And that's because of epigenetic effects like gene silencing and other inadvertent structural consequences because everything is interrelated in the metabolism.
Now, you know, the fact that people inherit the traits of their parents is just heredity.
That just means that you're inheriting the metabolism of your parents.
So sexual reproduction is a process where the metabolism reproduces, okay?
But the source of the traits themselves eventually have to come from somewhere.
You can't just say, well, it came from my parents and their parents and their parents.
It's got to come from somewhere.
And the answer that the Mendel-Morganist says is that's random it's just random mutations in the genome well but we know that mutations are not random we know that there are things that can induce mutations we know that mutations can actually happen for structurally predictable reasons.
All of those points in the direction, more or less, that, you know, the neo-Darwinist view is wrong.
Darwin himself was a Lamarckist.
Organisms acquire the traits that they do because over long periods of time they adapt to their
environments and they also adapt to their own activity, their own metabolism.
So, you know, the whole thing about random mutations determining all the phenotypes we have
it's just not true the phenotypes we have are a consequence of a deeper logic of the metabolism
in relation to itself and its environment. So, for example, you know, the fact that, you know, people say, well, there's different racial differences in terms of how people look and other kind of characteristics.
Yeah, but those aren't the consequence of, what do they call it?
Survivor's bias where all the people, you know, let's say in Africa, all the people who had white skin just died because they couldn't handle the sun.
No, that's not true.
The regulation of melanin production is an adaptation that is transmitted across generations as a consequence of organisms adapting to their environment.
So that's the Lamarckian Darwinist, you know,
Michin-Lysenkoist view, is that we don't believe in the whole
stupid idea that there's just random mutations responsible for everything.
No, so I understood what you're saying, and maybe you can put that in layman terms for
people.
I did, I did extract something that I saw, I'll just say my layman rebuttal on that.
I think, I think what you said was basically if you look at things in the long term, you know, there's not really, you know, race or genes or, you know, IQ in the long term.
But I guess as people, you know know we look at politics in the
IQ is completely
fake
I'll just I'll just say my point
and maybe if any
if you want to like you know take it apart or whatever
or address I'll just you know you I listen to you like
you know I'm just trying to stay polite, you know.
You know, I'm not trying to sound like, you know, like, you know, it's like I'm just trying to get my point across.
So in layman views, lay in terms of what you said, I personally think that, you know, if you look at like, you know, evolution of dinosaurs,
you know, if you look at it long enough, you know, where does a T-Rex star, where does it end,
where does, you know, where does the allosaurus come in, whatever? I get it. But in a given
moment, there are certain species. And in a given moment, there are certain races. You know, and in a given moment, there are certain species and in a given moment there are certain races you know and in a given moment
there are i guess uh you know traits that pass on in a given moment there are certain
intelligence quotions or or measurements of intelligence not to say that that can change in long-term periods.
I believe that even IQ can change in in an in an in a period.
IQ is complete look, I just tell you how stupid IQ is.
Something you'd expect intelligence to correlate with is the ability to make money, right?
But IQ passed a certain minimum point doesn't even account for how much money you can make.
Nassim Nicholas Pollab revealed
that IQ is
bullshit. All the things that they claim, it
correlates. It's all a bunch of noise.
It's all a bunch of
statistical bullshit and manipulation.
So IQ tests for how good or how willing or how interested you are, I should rather say, in taking standardized tests.
That's it.
What I'm trying to say is, in the most layman terms, for everybody to understand my my position is that in a given moment
and by the way IQ is absolutely fake because the tests can be gained you can practice on the test
you can study for it and you can master how to take them and get a giant
IQ score. How does that reflect anything
innate? It can be... For sure.
You make a good point, but if someone
practices over time.
What I'm trying to say is like my whole
thing is time. So in a given moment,
it is a measurement.
IQ is a game. Just like
Super Smash Bros.
is a game. Just like, you know, other
competitive e-sports are games.
For sure, 100%. So I give you
an example. If I have a business.
Let me explain to you how stupid IQ is, right?
Some people in the world have never played video games in their life.
They don't know how to use a controller.
They don't know what a game is.
You know, if you've ever had a girlfriend, she usually probably hasn't played a lot of games in her life.
She, through, give her a controller. She doesn't even know what she's doing with it.
I'm not saying for all of them, saying for a lot. And you see that, right?
So, you know, there's just people in the world who just haven't played video games.
So if you give them a, if you create a video game with a bare minimum test and a bare minimum
criteria, right?
Let's say it's like Mario, the first stage of Mario.
And you create a distributed test about how good are you at Super Mario Bros.
Right. And it's like, obviously the people who are going to do the best are the ones most acquainted with video games and who have played the most video games and for whom video games are nothing alien and nothing new.
So that's for universal modern societies with universal institutions, with standardized testing
is routine from birth.
If you go through K through 12 education, okay, you're going to be familiar with taking tests. If you go to the middle of
fucking nowhere in the jungle somewhere and you give people a fucking test with a pencil and a paper
and you say, hey, complete this test and they end up not doing well, that doesn't mean anything.
Okay?
You're not measuring anything innate as far as how human they are.
Because when they say cognitive capacity, they're talking about,
do you have neurologically and physiologically the capability to build civilization? Do you have the
capability to create great works of art, to make scientific discoveries, you know, for history
and civilization itself? Do you have that capacity? That's what people mean by IQ.
They're talking about how human are you?
How much are you able to actually, you know, it's like, are you going to be a fucking rocket scientist or a fucking dumb guy running around with a blunt object just beating
people or whatever, right? So that's
what these right wingers mean when they're talking about IQ.
And it's stupid.
It's just stupid. Do you mind?
I'll just give you, if you want, maybe you can bring
Dumerant up here. He's on like, I think
from my
conversation I had him
but would have been in the past.
He's kind of on the right
maybe it'd be an interesting
back and forth.
The point is,
my view on IQ and race,
like I said,
I think it's an immediate way
of measuring things
like race. Like in the immediate right now this person is i don't
i'm south asian this person is south asian i watch you on my team would have south asian nationalism
it might sound arbitrary in the long term, but whatever.
You know, in the immediate moment, I have a business.
I need people who seem competent.
I'll give them an IQ test that has standardized,
like you were saying standardized questions for the need.
Not to say that that person, that person can study for it.
Are you business owner?
Excuse me?
Are you a business owner?
Yeah, I'm self-employed.
You hire people?
At this moment,
I'm not big enough
at this moment. I've had businesses in the this moment I've had businesses
in the past
where I've had
I have hired people
and I never gave them
IQ test
was more like
And I seem to
approve this in his paper
on his substack
Doesn't even meaningfully correlate
with how much wealth you can bring in and make.
Well, give an example, the IQ test,
you can be special.
It's just like leaving your house with cancel.
How good at you are being a pencil pusher?
That's what it is.
Like, how good are you at, like,
working in a corporate environment where you're doing bullshit,
nothing work, and you're just following orders?
I don't know. I mean, you can come in, walk in a business and take the IQ test high and fail it.
I mean, it's just like...
It does not measure the ability to like improvise
and be smart, creatively improvise
and like actually be smart. It doesn't fucking
measure that. So what would you give
someone if you were a business owner to measure their
competency? Like, you know, making
sure that these people, a person
Oh my God, why did it fucking exit out?
I hate this stupid
fucking piece of shit.
Some tests.
I don't know if you consider these IQ tests.
I remember way back in a day,
depending, I've had all kinds of jobs.
I guess if you were working some kind of
entry level warehouse work, they'd give you something
more along the lines of measuring your, I don't know, like, you know,
eye, eye coordination with shapes. And I guess if you're working with computers, it's more like
if you're typing up stuff, things to do with like, you know, rearranging words and stuff.
I don't know. I've got all kinds of tests given to me over,
over the years.
Entras exams into,
like,
you know,
high schools and stuff
and enters exams into college.
I don't know.
I've got different tests for different things.
I guess,
I don't know if you call these IQ tests.
Oh,
I'm not denying that tests can be useful, okay?
I'm just denying that there's meaningful intelligent.
There's something called an intelligence quotient.
That's what I'm denying.
For sure.
What I would say is the, so my my answer my comment on that would be I think there are
there's general intelligence cannot be measured by an individual just can't there's because there's no
such thing as general intelligence when you're getting to the individual level, somebody's intelligence is going to be specialized.
There's no such thing as somebody who's just going to be generally smart because general intelligence is collective.
It belongs to civilization.
So you're saying there's no gifted people out there, like a gifted savant who's just...
Well, no, I mean, there's gifted people, but they're usually gifted in a specific specialized field.
When you say it's a general intelligence,
you're talking about something
extremely
shaky. Like, what are you
talking about? The general capacity
to partake in intelligence? I mean, it's just
nonsense. No, what I'm saying is,
like, you could have a child who's just like...
You could have a mathematical genius who's really fucking horrible at, you know, acting sharply in a combat environment, for example, you know?
You can have somebody who's really good and creative on, you know,
in general intelligence,
Quisal, what's up?
I mean, like, you, you, you know, what you're talking about is not something that can be quantified.
No, I'm saying, like, I've, you know, there are children who are just more mature, faster than they, they outpace some people in certain fields,
you know, at their infancy.
And I don't know, I think there is something there to that.
I think there is, you could have people who are just,
like, these are just things like,
example, like, you know, you could have someone who's like 15 years old who's, you know, like above par.
You just can't train other students at that age, you know.
Are some people innately, look, look, here's what I would compare it to.
I'd compare it to strength, okay? Now, most people who don't train are going to be weak. But even after training, there's some people who are going to be inherently stronger than others. And I agree with that. I agree that probably applies to, you know, mental
work as well.
But what I would say
is that at that level
you can't
attribute
you can't say, well, intelligence
is the...
Instead of this thing that's kind of like muscular strength, right?
You're confusing that with the capacity for civilization itself, and that's my problem.
Not you, but in general how people use it.
Like intelligence quotient, right?
This is how intelligent a civilization can be, or this is how intelligent a people can be.
But when you're shifting from the individual to the collective level, you're talking about something totally different.
At the collective level, you're talking about a collective means of production, a collective mode of production,
a collective accumulated. And at that level, I mean, how fast an individual is in crunching
numbers in their head,
the differences between them are not decisive enough to decide, you know,
who is capable of civilization and who's not.
So, for example, among the natural, let's say there's a natural distribution of strength among human beings.
Just without drugs, without supplements, without anything, just the natural curve, natural
distribution of strength among males in terms of how much they can lift right there's
there's going to be a distribution curve sure but the strongest person still can't lift an elephant
the strongest person still can't lift an elephant. The strongest person still can't lift up, you know,
concrete,
concrete,
you know,
blocks that,
or whatever, that go into the construction of a,
of a giant building so at a certain
level you know at a certain level it doesn't matter how strong you are you need some kind of
technology you need a crane to lift it up doesn't matter you're the strongest person in the world right
so the same is true
for whatever is going on cognitively in terms of there's there's distribution, sure.
So how would you explain like, you know, like, you know, when you scan someone's brain, you can see
activity, you know, like you can someone's brain, you can see activity,
uh,
you know,
like,
you can actually see activity.
Like,
I don't know,
like, uh,
you know,
like,
you see it,
you know,
like you see,
I don't know,
bro,
I mean,
I'm just,
just for the sake of this conversation, I had my brain scan when I was a kid and, bro, I mean, the doctor was saying, like, some parts work fucking extremely like...
I'm not going to get at that.
But the point is, like, you can see it.
You know, like, you can see some parts that work extremely well.
Some parts may not work that well in some of the individuals.
And then you can maybe
make even like racial correlations to that
data. What do you think of that? Like
actually seeing it and then seeing
it across different races.
I think this is where we're trying to
debunk or
let's table the brain for now let's just go look at something
like uh you know your your um your frame your physical frame okay so your distribution of fat
your distribution of muscle and just what your body looks
like, okay?
At a certain
level, there's going to be things
that, you know,
there could be patterns there that
are there, regardless of what you do
in your lifetime, but for most people
somebody who looks fit is somebody who trains who's athletic who and it's a reflection of their
habits and it's a reflection of their behavior and their activity
and what they do right and so i would i would say like all things this is just what human
beings are there's a distribution curve but how much of that is related to their activity
versus something that is just just a consequence of their inheritance.
And if it's a consequence of their inheritance, that doesn't prove there's genes, but it does prove that there is trans-cross-, sorry, not transgenerational.
Oh, that's a word.
Cross-generational,
there's a cross-generational scale
of a metabolism, of an activity,
of a, you know,
a mode of the organism, the biological organism, and the change happens at a generational level.
So there's things you've inherited from your parents, which you will never be able to change in your lifetime.
Maybe they couldn't even be changed in the lifetime of your lifetime. Maybe they couldn't even be changed
in the lifetime of your kids.
They can only change after generations, right?
That doesn't make them less
non-genetic, right?
But not all the changes that an
organism can
undergo can happen within one generation.
Well, you make a good point because it kind of
like touches the point I made before it were
I think like these genes and things
like that are just, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's core, there's this correlation with time. Which is a novel, I give you example, the gene, the gene view denies that there's, because this is the idea of the Wiseman barrier. So the idea of a gene is that there's a pure germ line, there's a pure line of heredity, unrelated to the activity of the organism, so that even across generations, the only thing that can change meaningfully that will lead to the organism looking different or behaving differently right is
is uh the mutation in the genome or whatever in the or they say in the DNA well that's been disproven by microbiology has been disproven by science itself
but they're still using the term gene for some reason even though what what the morgan mendeleus
notion of a gene the reason they invented that word in the first place was under false pretenses
and it's been
disproven and discredited by science itself
right
I mean look I'm just saying
it
it's what I was saying before
Matt it goes by the
it could be you got a brown beard
you inherited genetically I have a black beard
I inherited that genetically
like you know with time
we're both going to have white beards you know what I mean
I think it's the same thing with
you know IQ that could be, you know, that with time and practice and exercise, you know, that things are affected. But these tests, genes, whatever, are just indicators for the immediate, you know. So, I mean, I don't know. I mean, I didn't really come to a different debate.
The immediate is, uh, the immediate cannot, you can't make meaningful sense of it out of context.
You can't just look at a people, you know, who have no, no history of, you know, let's say they have no history of, um, a complex division of labor, specialized complex division of labor. Like, oh, this is the essence of what these
people are. They have this gene that makes them this way. You can't even look at animals that
way, you know? So that's really my, the crux of my argument. And you have a good point there,
because you are right about things being taken out of context for the immediate.
But I mean, bro, everything's political, including situations and people and the way people are seen in the immediate.
And you know how capitalism works.
It wants things quick. It wants things quick.
It wants money quick.
And it's not going to consider context.
I mean, it is what it is about.
I mean, like, and it doesn't even do a good job of that.
That's the problem.
Because the only way.
Well, people are stupid.
So I mean, that's why.
You have to consider context for the function you're looking for to be meaningful.
If you say, I want people who are smart and you're just going to try to take out of context,
you know, a certain quote, measurement of cognitive ability,
by taking it out of context,
you're going to lose the ability.
So that's the problem.
Well, I mean, that's why things are moving to words computers and AI.
I guess they've bled that out.
I don't know. I mean
it's
it's a wonder
what they're going to do in the future with
I mean, who knows what
testing for
those positions would be like in the future. I don't know.
It's, uh, I guess with AI and everything else I don't know it's I guess
what AI and everything else
it's interesting
but
I think there's somebody there though
still I think there is
there are patterns
I mean I don't know how you feel
about like you know
I think there are certain patterns
I haven't looked at it but people you know, I think there are certain patterns.
I haven't looked at it, but people have made that.
I think there are certain patterns.
I mean, I can't, I can't, man.
You've been, we've been on this for a long time.
Okay.
Thank fucking God. We need, we need, we definitely need some new people.
I'm going to debunk you right now.
All right.
You ready?
Yeah.
How was your Christmas today?
Oh, it was horrible.
Why?
Because I woke up late and all I did, I went on a long walk
to get my 10,000 steps in
because the fucking gym is closed.
So that's what was my Christmas.
Look, I'm
Catholic, but like I wanted to go out of the East.
So I went to the Arab cafe, and I swear
there was this Lebanese girl
that, like, brought me my stuff, and I
squinted, I thought she was cute.
And then I squinted my eyes
and I was like
holy shit
she looks exactly like
how is it for Reddit
and I got to fussed
up what kind of
weird ass thing
anyway
who's this new guy
vert some weird ass bro some weird ass bro shit, bro. Anyway, who's this new guy, Vert?
Some weird
guy, bro. Why does you say that? Like, what's the point
of saying some shit like that? Burr, go
ahead. Yeah, I heard you wanted to debate me. What's up?
Yeah, bitch. Why are you a fucking idiot
and a retard
uh
what
wait
who are you
I don't even fucking know
who this guy is
okay
well do you believe
in jeans?
Jeans?
Why are you fucking here? Why are you here?
What is this? What are you here for?
Can the Albanian monkey just quiet down for a second?
Where are you here for?
Answer, answer Mr. Kami.
You will never be Zirka, bro.
Calm down.
I don't want to be Zerka.
I don't want to be.
I'm perfectly fine being Knox there.
Answer, Mr. Communist.
Answer him what?
Why are you fucking here?
What the fuck are you doing?
I heard my name being brought up.
Oh my God. I heard my name being brought up. Who brought you up? Hello?
Yo, Verde, be honest with me.
Do you have downs?
I think so.
Yeah, I have downs, but my IQ's still higher than the average Albanian.
I don't know, dude.
I knew what the debate was.
You're over here just like, what the fuck even is this, bro?
I kick them down. I'm just going to bring
a new person.
It had to have been Nick Flentes as a result.
Get the fuck out of here.
The guy, the guy, he's clearly in the
Twitter space, right? That's what I say every fuck out of here. The guy, he's clearly in the, he's clearly in the
Twitter space, right?
That's what I say. Every time I do a space,
I have to say that, right? That's what
I say.
Let's see.
I bring, uh, okay.
Huh. So, I bring Okay Oh Sewell, any ops?
Go ahead
Uh
All right.
Hello?
Yeah, what's up?
Hi, hello.
So I mostly want to talk about the IQ pads.
I don't think it's completely fake.
I think a lot of people don't realize that IQ tests were created for specific reasons.
And the confusion comes from where people perceive that IQ measures general intelligence, basically all intelligence, right?
So for me, I believe IQ tests were designed specifically for
analytic cognitive question that you are being required to answer within a short period of time.
So, for example, mathematical questions, pattern recognition questions, and
wordplay questions, right?
But when it comes to measuring things like
creativity, social skills
and practical
know-how, IQ
does not cover this aspect.
So, for me,
I feel like when people start using IQ
as a way of measuring all in intelligence, I think it's stupid, right?
Because it makes no sense.
But IQs are real for a specific aspect of life.
Hold on. Can I ask you something?
Yes.
About like fact, like fact like fact
IQ actually correlates
and corresponds to like
basically nothing
except on the extreme end
when it comes to mental disability
what the fuck
it doesn't
doesn't correlate to wealth doesn't correlate to wealth.
It doesn't correlate to car accidents.
It doesn't correlate to like anything meaningful.
I know what the extreme end.
So if you have Down syndrome, if you have an extreme mental disability or some kind of impairment, a specific impairment, then, you know, that disability, it's going to correlate and correspond to something, right?
But beyond that, there's really no pattern at all.
The correlation is a classic fooled by randomness statistical bullshit you know because people don't know the math that goes into the creation of you know how do you actually how do you map out a correlation or how do you map out a statistically significant correlation?
Most people don't actually look at the math.
If you look at the math, you look at the statistics, you find that it's basically bullshit,
that these things are bat-tailed in their distribution they tend to only
measure like extremes in terms of the low end and there's no real strong correlation you know
the top 25% of janitors have a higher IQ than the bottom 25% of college professors.
Bizbon Woods.
Look at the data you got to read
nassim nicholas talib's article
on medium
i mean he lays it all out i mean
the top 25% of janitors
have a higher IQ than the bottom 25% of janitors have a higher IQ than the bottom 25% of college professors.
We are there being asked the same set of questions to determine their IQ or the questions we are being watered down
to make it more and friendly
to people who are
genitals.
What?
You speak English?
Do you say genitals?
Genitals. Not genitals genitals not genitals sorry my accent
so my my
question is we are the questions
that was asked
exactly the same
between these two groups of people or the questions we are different in general to measure the same test it's the same test okay and in the higher distribution of the test, you have the highest one are medical students.
Why is that?
Because there's a circularity bias.
Because if you have a high SAT score, you're going to do well on the test because you're the best at standardized testing.
Are we prepared to believe that people that have MDs are the smartest people in our society?
I'm not prepared to believe that.
No, because I'm prepared to believe that they are the best
at taking tests because the hardest and most rigorous test taking you know um is in the medical field
so you know that's really what we're talking about here.
It's all about what are you doing?
How often are you taking tests?
How often are you pushing pencils, you know, your pencil pushing?
That's really what it measures for.
It's pencil pushing.
Okay. That's really what it measures for. It's pencil pushing. Okay. I don't generally agree with you, but let's leave that conversation and talk about the genes aspect.
Do you think someone who is from Eastern Africa is exactly the same in terms of genetic composition with someone who is from Eastern Europe?
In terms of genetic composition, yes, because there's no genetic anything.
There's no genetic in the first place there's no genes
are they biologically different yes
are there is their metabolism different yes
are their characteristics different
yes what do you think genes
they're fake
made up things created by
Morgan, Mendel,
and Wiseman. That's not true.
It's not true.
Genes exist within your DNA.
No, they don't.
No, they don't.
Even DNA itself. Where did they don't. No, they don't. Even DNA itself.
What did this study in the school, please?
Even DNA itself.
Even DNA itself.
Even if we ignore macro-biological phenotypes.
We just focus on the microbiology. And we just focus on the structural
relation of DNA to proteins. Even at this level, they don't act as genes. Why? Because a given
strand of DNA can code for different proteins or the same protein can be coded for by an entirely distinct strand of DNA based on how it's activated by the metabolic and developmental system.
So even at the
smallest level where scientists
would argue hardest for retaining
the notion of a gene, which
is the direct relation of
a pattern of
DNA and a protein,
even at that level, still doesn't satisfy the functional criterion of a gene, because it's dependent on something that is beyond the Wiseman barrier, which is the metabolism, which is an epigenetic level of how it's regulated.
So the Wiseman barrier, if you don't know what that is,
it's something invented by a German guy with Down syndrome.
This German was looking at the Lamarckian consensus for most scientists. Charles Darwin was a
Lamarckian. He believed that
the way natural selection happens
is through the
organisms,
acquire characteristics based on their
metabolism based on their activity,
based on their environment, based on their activity, based on their environment.
And Wiseman said, well, okay, let's test that. He took rats and he started cutting off their tails, and he started breeding them.
And over generations, he would observe that it would have no effect on the fact that tails would still grow within the rats.
So he concluded that all the traits of an organism are determined by a pure germ line, a line of heredity,
you know, that gets inherited across generations, regardless
of the experiences or
adaptations or activity
of the metabolism or of the organism.
And that's where the idea
of a gene.
And then Morgan started studying fruit flies, who can, you know, have a very low lifespan and high breeding rate.
And he started, you know, putting them under his microscope.
And he discovered chromosomes. And he said, you know, putting them under his microscope, and he discovered chromosomes.
And he said, ah, these chromosomes are the gene that determine everything beyond the Wiseman barrier, you know, the characteristics beyond the barrier.
So that's where the idea of a gene comes from, and it's been completely
discredited.
Why did you study in school?
I studied
Lysenkoism.
Huh?
I studied Trotham-Lysenkoism. Huh? I studied
Trotham Lysenko.
I don't know
where that is, though, but
I don't, you are not
a
biologist.
Yeah, yeah, I am, actually.
I am.
Can you post your degree on Twitter, let's see, because...
Yeah, it is. It's in my Twitter bio.
Okay, because you are speaking with so much confidence, and I feel like people who do not have degree on
certain discipline in life
should not be having strong opinions
like this, right?
I don't agree with the fact that people
use Jin as a way to
do their racism
and racial hierarchy
and so on. I don't agree with that.
But also, I do not agree with the fact
that you are saying genes does not
exist at all. Because for me,
it looks like you read something on the
internet and you are just
regurgitating it out back here on Twitter.
But yeah, I love your work.
No, I mean, I have a biology degree.
You can look at my bio.
Okay, I'll check that out later.
Okay, thanks'll check that out later. Okay, thanks.
Bye.
Goodbye.
Yeah, people don't know this.
I have a biology degree in Lysenkoism.
People don't know that.
I mean, it's okay.
You can speak from ignorance.
I'm an expert. You know, remember, I'm an expert. I know what I'm talking about.
Because you need the piece of paper to know what you're talking about, right? So I have the piece of paper, sure. Corey, go ahead and speak.
Yeah, yeah, cheers, bro.
What's going on, Kaz.
What's up, bro?
Literally, no offense.
Don't take this personally.
Don't take it the wrong way at all.
Like I straight up mean, no offense, but I cannot.
The Australian accent tonight, just tonight, I can't do it.
Okay.
It's just, it's not you, it's me.
It's not a you thing, it's a me thing.
Grant, what's up?
Yeah, let's bring up, Vert.
Go ahead, Vert.
Yo.
Yeah, what's up?
So what's the topic at end?
Genes are totally fake.
All right, we're not, we're not going to talk about that.
We're going to talk about something else do you mind
what's your uh what are your political views uh whatever feel like all right what are you here. What are you here for?
What are your, um,
thoughts on,
uh,
Dhty?
Uh, what do you mean?
Uh,
are you on Phanastride?
No.
So, uh, are you pro-D-HD?
What do you mean?
Dehydro testosterone?
My pro what?
D.H.T. Can you repeat that again?
I couldn't hear you.
I'm not going to entertain this.
What about D.H.
You want to be funny?
You can be funny on your own time.
Understand?
I mean, this is my time, motherfucker.
What are you talking about?
What are you talking about? D.HT. What are you talking about? What are you talking about?
D.HT. What are you talking about?
Go do your Googles.
Go do your Googles and come back to me real quick.
That's the baldness thing.
Yeah, do you go Googles?
I'll give you five minutes and then come back to me.
I know what Dht is.
I'm just saying, why are you bringing it up?
This guy left.
Jesus Christ.
The best I can do is somebody,
the best opponent I can get is someone who comes up on the space
and just starts naming random chemicals.
Starts naming random molecules. This starts naming random molecules. his fucking camera is fucked up is my hat is defocusing it
um
yeah anyway uh
we are We are Charlie Kirk.
Let's talk about how I killed Charlie Kirk, apparently.
That was wild.
It's like a year in review no takers okay
honestly usually when
Groyper's come up to speak
there's actually not a lot to talk about
it because they're like
they're just kind of like
yeah
I'm unemployed.
I live with my parents.
It's like, well, you know, do you have any plans to fix or change your life in any way?
They're like, ah, no.
I like video games and anime.
Do you, do you, like, subject your beliefs and convictions to any kind of, like, test way they're like not really and it's just like
well you're just straight up banking on somehow benefiting in some way from from this movement you're in.
And it's just like you just,
you're not even that invested.
It's just kind of like a very passive thing.
Like, I don't know.
There's always just two types of people on the right.
There's the autists. They're both autists, but there's the just two types of people on the right. There's the autists.
They're both autists.
But there's the ones that are just like so certain of whatever bullshit they've come up with that they're willing to like, I guess.
So right.
What's up with the five they do
they do care about maybe
like you know
feeling like they can defend their position
and assert their position
then there's others who have just
straight up like they're so depressed
and they've tapped out of life so much
that they're just done. That's why
maybe I got to debate that clavicular
guy
like Noxter said.
Because I think that's the new
cope. They're like, we can look smacks and our
life will improve.
I should have to look better.
And then, um...
You know, let me give advice as an extremely handsome man.
My good looks, I shoot you not, have always been a handicap.
I'll tell you why.
Because when a woman likes you because of how you look, you lose control of the situation.
It's like she has these expectations
about what kind of guy you are.
She has this entire fantasy in her head
about who you are, what you are.
She has her own story she's written, right?
And it's like you have to live up to that.
And if you don't, then you've disappointed her.
And it's fucking horrible, right?
Whereas, like, if you're ugly, you have a better chance
even than extremely good looking people like me
who are at the top
they say how do they do the ratings
they say I'm a
they say I'm off the charts
basically right they can't even measure me.
But basically, if you're ugly,
then you're the author.
You get to create the story.
You get to create the setup.
The pretence. The Riz Riz everything you engineer the whole you're
the director of the fucking movie you get to create everything okay and that means all of the
attraction all of everything's going to be on your terms actually, you should take the ugly pill in a way.
Something to think about.
Let's bring up Agent Johnson.
Oh, he's Quizzle boss.
This is my guy.
Let's bring up some ops.
Who is that guy
commie killer
go ahead
am I on
yeah
awesome
all right we spoke in the past and your government education is funny.
There's no such
thing as far right government.
You realize that, right?
Power works two ways.
So,
you are basically
bootlicking for more
government.
There's only one party putting power to the states.
And that's not the left.
Is it the Republican Party?
That puts power to the states yeah okay so we we live in a in a constitutional what if a state um not a democracy what if a state said they wanted to boycott israel would
they still be would the republican Party still back then or no?
Well, that's, that's okay.
It's up to the state. It's up to the state.
All right. So it could be fine. The
proponent, GOP would be fine with that, right?
Right. We, right? Right.
We, right.
You don't like Israel.
GOP would be fine.
Yeah.
Get about,
forget about Jews for
just a second.
You guys are globalist.
You,
you know, there's nothing
communist about,
you guys read Marx and you guys think you nothing communist about you guys read Marx
and you guys think you're communist
that requires a centralized
government for the masses
Communist Control Act
of 19
CO2 what's up
which puts you know it's illegal to bootlick for a centralized government in the United States.
So, I mean, like, you love for...
Wait, who makes that illegal?
What do you mean?
Who made that?
It was written into law
by who?
Congress.
Congress.
Which is what?
What?
What's your argument? You know, it's's on the it's a law on the books we are we are not a democracy
okay law says the law of uh of what isn who enforces that law
i do
okay so that i i like personally enforce the law really
well i i mean what makes you think
my rights
you know are for debate for people that want to boot lick for a government to take care of the masses?
I mean, that's exactly the opposite.
You said it's illegal for me to be a communist.
Who's making that illegal?
Well, you're not really a communist.
Just because you've read a book.
The government is.
Just because you've read a book doesn't really make you a communist.
Like that's the, your commie cosplayers
living in a capitalist
country. You know, it's
easy to bootlick for more
government.
But, you know, the way
out, like, the way out works,
like, if you commies want to prove to everybody way out like the way our works like if
you commies
want to
prove to
everybody
pick one state
pick one state
move everybody
there
show us
how to
you know
because we live
in an
experiment with 50 fucking different states where we could all look around and say, you know, that works, that doesn't work.
You know, show us how to, you know, instead of, you know, dragging the entire fucking country down, thinking, you know, some weekend warrior yuppie like you, looks like a suit, you know, I bet you got soft fucking hands, you know, pretend it'd be some type of working class, you know?
It's a joke.
Liberals are desperate after a 50 state shift.
Every demographic shifted right away from government.
And you think that, like, the answer is more government.
What's up, Kai?
You couldn't be any more out of depth.
You have a government education pushing
more government.
But you love the government, right?
No. Socialists
just succeeded for cheap slave labor
again. Sanctuary cities
is failure to follow federal law for cheap slave labor.
We need the really powerful government to make, to stop the communists, right?
Dude, communism requires a centralized government for the masses.
So therefore, you have to put all your power as a citizen to the left.
Here in my constitutional republic, we have 50 states
where we send electives ahead
of us to stop
the will of the rights from taking
away from the majority.
The exact, it's not
a democracy. People on the left
the people that tell you, it's a threat to democracy. People on the left, the people
that tell you, it's threat to democracy,
you know, are the people that
didn't hold a primary.
You know.
You are so fucked in the head, it's crazy.
You were just so brainwashed.
Brainwash. You were just so brainwashed. Brainwash.
You're a comedy
cosplayer in a capitalist
country. No service
of another person's labor is
a right. That is called
slavery. You know,
I mean, like you're pushing an ideology that not only is un-American, it has been
brutally, brutally rejected.
Has there ever been a single human being born on earth who did not depend on the labor of others?
You know, well, who did not depend on the labor of others you know I mean I
I mean the way you
like do you want to
do you want a response or do you just want to
fucking hear yourself talk nonsense
well nonsense is again
you got a fake
one-year-old club.
Do you just want to hear yourself
cause? You're just trying to rebrand communism.
What am I rebranding, buddy? I have a fucking Stalin hat.
What am I rebranding?
You're globalist.
That's all you are.
Half your ACP
crowd is foreigners
in other countries.
You yourself
spends more time overseas, you know, and all these
commies that you, fact tag, you're wrong. Do you only, you only respect Reddit, so I'm just
going to be a Reddit. Factually, no no that's not true like I spent a week
I've got five days in China
you can't understand
I spent five days in Lebanon I spent five days
in Lebanon five days in China
five days in Iraq in 2025
so my dog
a total of two weeks.
My dog exercises more rights than any of those people.
Buddy, buddy.
I spent a total of two weeks abroad this year.
Okay.
So what do you talk about?
All right.
And my dog exercises more rights than any of those people in those countries that you that you bootlick for you know i mean
okay then then so if you get hurt and go to the hospital you i mean you can't figure out why nick flantis
nick flint is more popular than you can't figure out why Nick Flantis Nick Flentes
is more popular than
you after a 50
state shift and every
demographic shifted right
because you know clearly the left
has all the facts. Nick Flentes is
not a libertarian, so what
are you even fucking talking about?
Yeah, I mean
libertarians are spectators.
Nick Fuentes doesn't care about the government.
There's only one party.
There's only one party
that's putting power to the states, the people.
That's how my constitutional republic works.
No, it's not. Your constitutional republic doesn't exist.
Okay. Well, again, 50 states shit. There's only one party putting power to the states. The people. You can call progressive, liberals, commies, socialist, progressive. You guys can call yourself whatever you want. Des you know lefties we don't play your
lefty word games anymore
buy a fucking book
do you even want to hear do you want me to say
anything you just want to hear yourself
dude this again
you're trying to argue with me
the fact that we don't live in the country
you're not even like I'm not even able to get a word in here buddy
like you're just yeah I mean
you you're asking me like
I'm asking you what are you here for you just want to
just uh you don't want to hear anything from me.
You just want to shit.
You just want to take a shit.
Well, I just...
You're just splattering diarrhea.
Like, you're not even open to another perspective.
Does that usually work for you?
I mean, no wonder you guys are getting so violent after such a major shift. I mean, by... How am I getting besides the... Besides the... Besides the... Besides the...
You know, the left...
All right. Can I ask you something? Did I kill Charlie Kirk?
Did I kill?
Oh, my God.
Did I kill Charlie Kirk?
What?
We are Charlie Kirk.
What about Charlie Kurt?
Your hate will never match our love.
Get over it.
But did I kill him?
No, but you know.
All right, I just wanted to make sure.
So you bring it up.
Big deal.
You know, the guy.
I don't know.
Some people said I killed him.
I wanted to know what you thought.
No.
Listen,
bro.
Like,
you're so,
I listen to you.
You've asked me in the past.
You're like,
well,
what do you suggest you,
us come?
I told you when I started. You're like, well, what do you suggest us come? I told you when I
started. You guys want to educate
people? Pick one
state. We have 50 states
instead of all you
lefties that can't hack it
in, you know, in leftist
cities in mass exodus with all your marxist ideology that's so
great buddy you know every single thing you're getting your words from i know i'll you're getting
this words you're getting your talking points your entire worldview is copy pastpasted from Israel-linked propaganda outfits.
Oh, no, bro.
Yeah, you don't have an independent.
There's nothing you're saying that evokes independence.
Everything you're saying is copy-pasted.
In 2025. Are you serious? you're pushing everything you're saying is copy-pasted in 2025 are you seriously trying to say that to me
I'm trying to tell you you sound like literal Glenn you sound like a Glenn you sound like you watch mr.
Bircham you sound like you're a daily
wire subscriber. Communism is Jewish.
Are you kidding me?
Why do you think Jews love communism?
Why do you think Jews love communism?
Because they're able to subvert
every aspect of government.
But you're the own
that you bootlick for.
The government that you
bootlick for.
So don't even fucking tell me
Israel this.
Communism
is Jewish construct.
So don't even
fucking play.
We're kind of getting somewhere here, but
you're the Goy Cattle who's
of Daily Wire.
Bro, you, I'm not the
one bootlicking for
government to control my life.
That's what communism is.
Socialists just forced vaccine
made our grandparents die alone.
Socialists just
seceded for cheap slave labor again.
Forever silencing. You're like blaming
me for everything Democrats have ever
done. Like, what are you on, buddy?
Well, that's the whole thing.
Again, there's only two-party system in this country.
No, can I, can I respond to this or no?
Are you just going to keep yapping?
Let me respond to this, okay?
You're saying communists are just the people that
want more government. I beg to differ. Communists are the people that want to take the current
government we have right now, strip it down to the bare bones of the Constitution, and let's
it. Okay, so laugh.
Oh, that's not
how do I argue with that?
Every demographic from you, bro,
it's unicorns and
fairy tale land. That's not
real communism. Well, that's not real communism. Well, That's not real communism.
Well, that's me.
You're talking to me.
You're talking to me.
You're talking to me.
You're talking about my party.
Oh, it's no wonder you guys are so violent after fucking 50 state shit.
All your facts. I bet you're fucking vaccinated
I mean
this is just like the most
duopoly cattle
like this is like a soundboard
of like a stereo
power only works two ways
listen if you disbanded
I bet you're vaccinated
I bet you're a transgender
I bet you don't even believe
and what a woman is
I bet that you're one of these
entitled Starbucks people I bet that you're one of these entitled Starbucks people.
I bet that you're one of these
Bernie Sanders people.
I bet you're a socialist. It's just like
Venezuela. You just want to take
my taxes. And you just
basically want to freaking have
the government do everything and we don't have to work for anything even though nothing is free.
You're just a freaking Democrat who's trying to bring illegals across the border and completely carry him over having slavery.
And the Democrats are actually the real racist.
And buddy, you sound like a fucking soundboard of a fucking 2023
Republican
why are you wasting my time
with this fucking I'm an interesting
unique thinker fucking address me on
my terms, buddy.
I don't care about this duopoly-goyant-slop.
And I'm telling you how my government works.
No, you're not.
Your government fucking is occupied.
Again, it's only two-
It's a true-party system.
Let me know.
You got one party putting power to the states to people,
and you got the other people putting power to a centralized government.
Power words, two ways.
Are you done? You liberals are so desperate. works two ways. The gospel will honor his name.
You liberals are so desperate.
It's so funny.
Are you done? You liberals are so fucking desperate.
Are you done?
You guys can't understand why so many people laughing.
When you open your mouth.
Are you done? You open your mouth. Are you done?
Are you done?
And you can see, you can't, I told you.
Power works two ways.
You're not done.
To the people or not.
And lefties can't figure out why everybody...
By the way, guys, if you think I'm being mean to this guy,
I've talked to him before for like three hours, okay?
It went nowhere.
He's coming back.
Listen, guys...
Well, listen...
We spoke for like 30 minutes once
for three hours.
And, you know, I laughed at...
You are disrespectful, your hot style
Because you're disrespectful
Because you're disrespectful Because you're disrespectful
It's treason to boot lick
For a centralized government
Here in the United States
Okay can I just be clear
You are You have a fake Are you a boomer? Are you a boomer?
No, I'm not. Is that upsetting to you? The fact that, nope, that younger generation isn't buying
into your, you know your government education?
I mean, again,
lefties have government educations pushing more government. Righties
want less government.
Your entire, okay, your entire narrative,
all the terms you're using, all the
arguments that you're employing,
they're soaked in a
duopoly red versus blue narrative
that I do not respect and carries
no water in these parts.
You sound like a Fox News host
and you're expecting me to be an MSNBC.
Hold, shut up.
You're expecting me.
You're expecting me to be an MSNBC host.
Who said red?
Who said blue?
I'm not, buddy, I'm not an MSNBC host.
I'm not a Democrat.
I'm not a liberal.
So you have to talk to me. You have to talk. You're'm not a liberal. So you have to talk
to me. You have to talk.
You're a spectator. No, you have to shut up.
You're a spectator. How noble.
Be a fucking man and talk
to me as an individual. Stop throwing
these labels and beliefs in terms
at me that I've never avowed myself as, you know, a subscriber.
You're a comedy cosflare in a capitalist country.
So you, if you're a man, someone who called themselves a communist, you should hear what they have to say.
Because you're not a communist because you're not a communist.
You're not a communist.
Are you done?
You've read marks.
You've read marks.
Are you done?
I'm a communist.
I read Marx.
Look at me.
You're angry at me. You don't even know who I am. I'm going to teach you something.
If you claim... You look like you do my taxes. You are anything. You're the farthest from working class.
It's so funny. That's fine. That's fine. You look like a fucking banker.
You look like you do my...
You call me... Then call me Rothschild. And then let's just start from zero. And let me just say this. Okay.
You claim to be an individualist and you claim to be against big government, you claim to be every man for himself, right? You're posturing in this way. But here's the difference. When you talk to a man who called himself a communist, instead of hearing what the man has to say and judging it by the merit
and being open to another perspective,
you're imposing a collective narrative
that you got from somewhere upon me.
So you're not living your values
even in this interaction with me.
Instead of one-on-one talking...
Hold on.
Instead of talking to me one-on-one, instead of talking to me one-on-one talking... Hold on one.
Instead of talking to me one-on-one, instead of talking to me one-on-one about what I believe and what I do and all this kind of stuff, you're taking something...
You're taking something you got from Fox News and you're throwing it on me.
So you're a collectivist.
You're a collectivist. You're a big government. You're a big government. You're a collectivist. You're a collectivist.
You're a big government.
You're a big government
chill. You're a big government collectivist
because you don't talk to people one on one.
You just take those narratives.
Buddy, I don't care about government education.
I don't even know what you're talking about.
Bro, all right, what failing leftist city in mass exodus are you in?
Or are you living in a free, low-tax, low-crime, GOP County State?
Let's start there.
Where are you?
It literally doesn't matter. Oh, no. It doesn't. Yeah. Okay. It doesn't matter. All right. All right. Fine.
It doesn't matter. Fine. Of course it fucking. I'm living. I'm living in the Chaz in Seattle.
The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone.
Yeah.
Yeah, that, you know what?
I at least give you kudos for living in, you know,
and you know, on your failed left, this ideology
It hasn't failed. It hasn't failed.
It hasn't failed.
Nope, it's still going strong.
Do you realize they're trying to move?
Look at the greater Idaho
movement. They're trying to move
the state lines from Idaho to get, you know, to get, you know,
the sailing state of Oregon and Washington and they won't succeed because the Chaz
Army is going to go down and touch them a lesson.
Oh, yeah, the Chaz Army.
You know, you guys are so cool.
We don't tolerate secessioncession from our state we don't
yeah you guys the left just seceded for cheap slave labor again
sanuary cities is failure to follow you listen i don't know i don't know what you're on but the chas
army we're not going to let this Idaho thing take off.
It's not going to happen.
Yeah, well, you know, maybe you fascists should worry about what people voted for, you know.
But you comedy, well, we're counting the ballots buddy we got buddy buddy buddy we count
hey we count the ballots we decide who gets elected yeah okay that yes yeah we know how that
works stalling and lennon no we're talking about the the Chaz Army because that wasn't real communism.
Now real communism's happening.
Oh, that wasn't real communism.
Again, there's only power works two ways, bro.
Nope.
I'll tell you how it works.
You listen to what the chat, you shut up.
You listen to what the Chaz Army shut up. You listen to what the
Chas Army has to say.
And Phil, I'm glad, I'm glad
you know,
you're proven to,
you know, more than just me that,
you know, you have no idea
what the fuck you do.
Let me tell you how it's going to work, buddy.
The Chaz Army. We're not going to work buddy. The Chaz
Army.
We're not,
we're not
going to allow that.
Yeah,
I'm going to tell you
how it's going to
work.
The Chaz Army is not
going to allow.
Every demographic.
White cis men
such as yourself.
Hey, buddy,
white cis men like yourself, white cis men like yourself have had
your time in the sun. The Chas Army will take it from here. You just call me a cis, a cis man.
Bro, nobody plays your, You liberals are so desperate.
Nobody plays your lefty word games,
bro. You are pathetic.
Yeah, because you're basically, what, because you're a racist.
That's why. Oh, I'm racist.
Yeah. I'm the one that,
you know, socialist attacking... Yeah, the Chaz Army doesn't want to hear it, buddy.
Chaz Army doesn't want to hear it.
Your Idaho ambitions are going to be crushed.
We're not going to happen.
You know, you guys are just globalists that hate America.
We get it.
Yeah, because, yeah, well, well, actually, it's called Turtle Island. Hey well, actually it's called Turtle Island.
Hey, buddy, it's called Turtle Island.
There's no such thing as America.
That's a settler word.
Oh, yeah.
It's called Turtle Island.
I hate to tell you that treaties and land
deals say otherwise, bro.
What deals?
Like, go back to your fucking, you're jihad, bro. What deals? Like, go, go back to your,
what deals.
You're jihad, bro.
I'm actually 10%,
I'm 10% indigenous,
actually,
so this is my land.
I was born in America,
too.
I'm a day of America.
No,
you're not.
You're a fucking colonizer.
Colonizer said what?
I'm a Native American.
I was born here.
Colonizer said what?
I was born here.
Colonizer said what?
I'm a Native American, bro.
Cholonizer said what?
Chenees some more fucking definitions to fit your narrative.
We're used to.
You know what, buddy?
Just because you said that, I'm using my EBT
card to order something right now in DoorDash.
Give me one sec.
Go ahead.
Thanks for your taxes, buddy.
I'm ordering it right now.
Bro, that's what capitalism's good for.
You commie cosplayers are a joke.
You're parasites.
You proved that. Look at how you
debated in this conversation.
Yeah, and you guys will never find me. Ice will never find me,
by the way. I'm not a citizen.
Nobody's looking for you. Yeah, I'm not a citizen. I didn't come here
legally and I'm taking your food stamps.
I know, you're on your little fihad.
I know we watch it.
I didn't come here legally.
I'm not a citizen.
ICE will never find me, buddy.
Cash Patel's never going to find me.
He'll never find me.
Christy Noam's never going to find me.
Yeah, I know.
This is my country now.
Okay, sorry to interrupt this great conversation.
We've got two people requesting.
One is Groyper.
We'll bring them on.
I just want to finish this conversation with the other guys and IDF.
So Kamikila, we just decided the Chas Army just decided that because you're Siz, we're going to tax you, um, an extra 15% this tax year for being sister
You know, it's so funny
It's because of comments like that
Is why everybody
You know what? You know what? Hey, if you have a
Pairs hey if you have a pair of it
Hey no no wait wait wait there's a way out of it
You want a way out of it?
You have a government education promoting more government.
I'll do, listen, listen, listen.
I'll run, hey, hey, I'll run the numbers for you.
Are you funny?
Bro, you sound like, I'll run the numbers for you.
The taxes, the taxes are going to be really high,
but all you got to do is buy a pair of scissors
or one that's around you.
Get the pair of scissors.
That's so fucking funny.
Sis, you know.
If you don't want to be taxed, you're going to get a pair of scissors.
Take care of business.
You liberals are so desperate.
We love it.
We fucking love it.
It's hilarious.
Keep it up.
Really.
Yeah, but how do you feel that Trump is an orange racist?
An orange racist. Okay. Coming from people that like openly attack Jews, Christians, love to
speak over minorities, you know, forever silenced the less than 7% black vote in Native
Americans. You know. I can speak
for black people and say that you're a racist.
Cool story, bro.
What's that supposed to mean to me?
I'm from Jamaica, Queens.
I've dealt with more black people.
And I am black. And I am black. So sit
the fuck down, colonizer.
Colonizer. That's hilarious. African slaves trade
still alive and well.
Oh, you've just got all the talking points,
don't you? Yeah, all the talking points, don't you?
Yeah, all the talking points. You talk exactly like a liberal.
It's hilarious.
It's hilarious.
You guys are so desperate.
It's so funny.
You guys can't figure out there was a 50 state shift in every demographic
in here here talking about black people.
Yeah, that was before the Chas Army
entered the equation. That was before the Chas Army
entered the equation.
Bro, Chad Army, nothing. You guys are
liberal. LARPERS.
LARPA.pers now when the
Chas Army
entered the equation
those 50
stateships
won't mean
anything
bro you're
in your own
mind
it's hilarious
yeah
you know
I find it
hilarious
that you think
you can't stop
you can't stop the great think you can't stop.
You can't stop the Great Reset.
You can't stop it. The Great Reset.
I know.
Well, you know.
We're the real capitalists.
Hey, hey, Kami.
Shut up, Kami.
You're the Kami.
We're the capitalists now.
Because I'll tell you why.
No, I'll tell you why. No, I'll tell you why.
I'll tell you exactly why.
Because we're working for Black Rock.
We're going to bring the Great Reset.
We're going to put you in a pod.
You're going to own nothing and be happy.
And that's all from capitalism.
We have the money.
We have the banks.
We earned it fair and square on the free market.
You're going to be a slave, and if you say otherwise, you're
a freaking commie, you need to get the fuck out of my country
because Netanyahu said so. So we're the
real ones now, and you're the commie.
You know,
I'm going to go with the 25.
I hope you, do you practice that in a mirror?
Because, you know, it's so funny.
Buddy, I don't want to hear this commie babble speak.
We're the real capitalist now because, uh,
well, you're coming for Klaus Schwab.
We're in Chas right now.
There's nothing communist about you.
That's what I want to let you.
Yeah, because you're the real communist.
You're the communist.
Not me.
You are.
I am.
I bootlick for a centralized government for the masses to take away all my rights.
And this.
Freaking commie.
Dumb fuck. Fre freaking commie dumb fuck freaking commie
sorry I don't speak commie
I don't know what you're saying
Commy
Control Act 1954 on the books
Yeah and we're and we just passed
the cisgender
control act we just passed the cisgender control act.
We just passed the cisgender control act.
I guarantee you, we just passed, we just passed the cisgender control act.
Grab a pair of scissors, buddy.
Yeah, good luck with that, bud.
You know, it's all your, all your little, uh, calming cosplayers.
It's so funny with all their little fake chapters popping up.
You know, they, they, they sound like, what are you talking about?
We only have one chapter.
It's called Chas, Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone.
Cis genders aren't allowed.
Neither are colonizers.
All your ace colonizers coming from all the...
So none of the...
No Muslims are allowed there?
All these people on their jihad, you know,
we do allow Syrian, we allow Syrian, we allow Syrian, we allow Syrian refugees.
China.
We allow Syrian, we allow Syrians, we allow Uyghurs. We allow Syrian refugees
who are friends with
Gilani, who's our good friend.
We allow
people...
Bro, you allow what we allow you allow.
No, no, we bring them. We have a sponsorship
system. We're bringing in syrian refugees
oh yeah i'm sure you do i'm sure you do i'm sure you do i'll actually uh al jolani has been
actually very supportive of us he's pretty much like our version of Qatar. Qatar as well. Oh my God.
Qatar and El Jolani are sponsoring.
It's too funny. You wonder
why Groyper's are blowing you guys
out of water. A bunch of kids
a bunch of kids that
just don't know nothing.
Actually, Groyper's are just
those are just
agents of the Klaus Schwab.
You know, they're basically... Oh, yeah, sure they are.
They are.
Communism is Jewish, bro.
So, I mean, for you the fact that
you know, there's a reason why, you know, all the right.
Yeah, that's why you're Jewish. You call people Nazis. You call people Nazis on the right. But again, there's no such thing as far right government. And that's why you can't... The left has a hard time explaining why they're the ones that have socialist attacking Jews,
forced speech, for...
Well, Chaz, Chaz has gone...
Well, guess what, Chaz, Chaz?
Okay, do you support Ukraine, sir?
Do you support Ukraine?
Of course not.
Of course not.
Well, that just shows what a bigoted commie you are.
You know, bro, again, you're globalist.
All your people, like all again, you're globalist.
All your people, like all your... You're...
You're...
You're...
All your ACP members in Iran and all these places.
You're global.
No, we're just all in Ukraine with Zelensky.
We're in Zelensky's cabinet.
Yeah,
you're un-American
foreigners
pushing an foreign ideology.
Did you get the vax?
Did you get vaxed?
No, I didn't.
I told you.
Well, that's going to change.
That's going to change.
All right, hold on.
I'm writing it,
letting the Chaz Army know.
We got a guy who's not vaxed here.
One sec.
I mean, that's how dumb you are.
Like, you actually think. Hold on. Shut up.
I'm making a phone call. Give me one second.
Hello. Hey, guys. We got a guy who admitted he wasn't vaxed.
We're going to head on over soon.
Yeah we got a guy who admitted he wasn't vaxed. We're going to head on over soon. Yeah, you better... Make sure to bring the needles.
Bring the needles.
Bring the grandparents die alone.
Bring the 5G signal receptors.
Bring the signals.
Bring it all.
This guy didn't get vaccinated.
We know how that works.
Hey, sorry, I just hung up with.
I was just talking to some people.
What's going on?
You socialists did so well with the vaccines, didn't you?
We're not done yet.
We're not done yet.
The Chas Army's going to be.
Yeah, you know, you're not done showing everybody how unauthoritarian you are, correct?
Hold on. Did you get, we're going to be blasting this guy
with 5G, give me one sec, blast no
5G, and we're going to get the... Yeah,
double it up, double it up, 10G, baby.
You know, what, you think like you're funny or
something, but you have a government education.
Is anything funny is transphobia funny to you?
Do you think transphobia is funny?
I flexed that for you.
I flexed your government education for your people.
I say a kami cosplayer bootlicking
first, you know, just say
I'm not comfortable making
my own decisions and I want the government
check your Jewish white privilege
and get back to me.
Buddy, check your Jewish white privilege
for me and get back to me
yeah okay said the Jew
look at your nose bro no you're the Jew
look at your nose
it's so funny
what about my nose
exactly
yeah I mean I'm a p o c i'm not a white jewish privileged person like you
you look pretty jewish to me you are a white jewish colonizer
look at that nose look at that fucking nose of yours. Calling people Jewish.
Boy, my God. You know what, buddy? I don't even know who's Jew and who anymore.
Oh, yeah, I know. That's why some people I don't even know who the Jew is. Maybe I am the Jew now.
I don't know.
You guys are real good at hiding it.
Wait, who's the Jew again?
That'd be you, probably.
But didn't you say we were racist against Jews?
I forgot.
Did you say we were racist against Jews? I forgot. Didn't you say my Chaz army was racist toward Jews?
Jews are a race and a religion.
Communist hate religion.
Oh.
So, you know, you're not very good at that.
You're even more retarded than originally that.
Because you said we were racist towards Jews.
You might want to know a few things before you attack all religions.
You said you were, you said we were racist toward Jews.
Did you not?
No, I didn't.
Douglas, what's not? No, I didn't. Douglas, what's up?
I'm not the one that has socialist attacking
them on campus. No, we go on the campuses and we beat people
with belts. There's nothing you can do about it.
The Chaz Army
Runs the campuses. It's a joke.
Tommy cosplayers, desperate, desperate to be relevant
to 2025.
Did you watch the latest Jesse Water special?
No.
Why not?
What are you, Akami?
I mean, you are a prime reason why everybody laughs when the left opens their mouth.
You realize that, right?
I'm literally a T.P.USA officer. I'm part of T.P.USA. You're running off a motions here. Hey,
buddy, buddy. I don't know what the hell, what kind of anti-American, anti-Israel garbage you're talking about. I'm literally a T.P. USA officer.
And you sound like a freaking liberal commie to me.
Oh, yeah.
Erica's not going to like this.
This is why nobody can't even
I'm calling Erica.
Hold on.
Erica,
we got an anti-american radical left
this is exactly why you're radical left
losers are losing that open their mouth i mean
it's so funny that like you think that you're the leader of some type of
movement and I told you
I said you asked me last time
we said like well what do you suggest that we do
you know as we as in
you fake communists and I said
you guys should pick one
you talking about you guys should pick one fucking state.
You guys should pick one state and show us how it's done.
Please show me how,
you know...
I'm literally the leader of TPP USA, buddy.
What are you talking about?
Yeah, okay.
You know, and again,
this is why nobody takes you serious, bro.
You, like, you're a foreigner and a communist control act.
And I will make sure.
We will make sure, you know, better dead than red, you know, like like People used to know this shit
In the 80s
But the left
Took over our education system
And now people
Look for more government
And you are a product of it
Can you
I'm gonna stop fucking with you
I'm gonna stop fucking with you and let me get 30 cents.
There's no fucking with me, bro.
I'm fucking with you.
You have a gun.
I'm literally a wild animal.
You can't control yourself.
Okay.
Buddy,
I try to be nice and respectful to everybody.
You sound like you're a little older.
I like being nice to older people.
But you are just so disrespectful.
You talked to me before.
You know what I'm about.
And you come back and you're just screaming at me
like you're just yelling at
you're just venting all like Fox News
got you riled up against the Democrats
and against the liberals and the education system
and it's like you're throwing all this on me and I'm just the Democrats and against the liberals and the education system.
And it's like, you're throwing all this on me and I'm just confused, you know?
And then it just shows you just don't even want to talk to me. You just want to vent because you've been brainwashed in a really pathetic way by these boomer duopoly talking points. You have no self-awareness of how
fucking generic you sound and unoriginal. I'm a pretty original thinker. I don't really fit within the
duopoly narrative. I don't stand with Democrats. I don't stand with Republicans.
I have my own views.
And we have her own views. Okay, you can't box us in
one or the other. You can't
say that we, you know, you can't project
all the fucking Democrat bullshit on us.
You can't project Republican bullshit
on us. We're totally
independent. You have very
strong views about communism that are clearly
ill-informed, and you're clearly
unwilling to subject to any kind of test,
any kind of reasoning.
I don't know how I can help you.
You know, and it's sad because, you know what?
I just think you're angry at the wrong people.
And it's like you're acting like a crackhead on the street.
You're just randomly targeting people who mean you no harm, who you
probably might even have a lot in common with if you actually did your research and talked to us.
But you know, you instead decide to be an asshole. You decide to be angry.
And, you know, I'm supposed to be patient with people like you.
But I'm going to treat you like a human being.
And if I'm going to treat you like a human being, it means I'm going to expect a bare minimum of decency and respect.
Because I'm not a fucking welcome, Matt.
You can just step on and project and rage on.
I am a fucking person.
I'm my own guy.
I expect a bare minimum of respect that I would treat with anyone, right, regardless of who they are.
You think that just because I call myself a communist
that what? You think I'm like the pluribus thing
from fucking pluribus and I'm just going to smile
and be fucking nice to you?
And then I'm here to sell you on some shit
where I'm smiling. That's not fucking true.
I'm actually a fucking person.
You disrespect me.
I'm going to disrespect you right back.
Okay.
We're not here to serve you in terms of your feelings.
We have our own dignity.
Okay.
Each and every one of us.
You can't just fucking step on us because you think we're a bunch of
fucking care bears and tellytub. He's trying to improve the country and do right by a lot
of people here who are, you know, life is going to shit for, which is a fact. I don't know
what generation you belong to, but my generation can't afford homes, can't afford
education, can't afford families, can't afford groceries, can't afford a future, and they're drowning in
debt. It doesn't sound like you have a solution for that you have delusions about how our government is run
you think that it's run on the basis of our constitution and it's just not the government's been
usurped a long time ago functionally speaking the constitution's been turned into a piece of paper
that doesn't matter. It's bent
in any direction they fucking want it to.
The law means nothing. Epstein is
proof of that.
I could go into
more detail if you want, telling you how much
the system actually is objectively rigged
against the common man,
which it fucking is.
But I feel like I'd fall on deaf ears.
You have this idea that's where we have the states.
And you don't have a fucking thing.
You have a prison country that's occupied by international financial capitalists, who've got you by the balls and they've turned the country into a farm to accumulate power through debt, really. It's not even just wealth. It's power, you know?
They have total control.
It's just a system of total fucking control that they've created.
I mean, they surveil anyone they want to.
They have unlimited.
And you're talking about stupid things like the Communist Control Act. Well, why did that pass in the first place? You know, we were friends with the Soviet Union. Henry Wallace was on track to, you know, lead an era of excellent friendship in relations with the USSR.
What happened? Truman came to power because FDR was poison.
One sec. TY, what's up with the five?
And Truman, if you didn't know you know was plugged up with the british financiers the cia took power over the country trained by the os s america
became beholden to this, you know,
transatlantic capitalist elite
that wanted war with the Soviet Union
because it wanted to maintain an international system of
colonialism, modified in a new financial form.
That's why they created the IMF to enslave the world with debt.
Deindustrialize America, deindustrialize Britain, the West.
You just don't know your history, buddy. Yeah. West.
You just don't know your history, buddy.
I'll let you respond.
Go ahead and meet yourself.
And for the most, I do know history and I do appreciate the fact that you spoke on a few things.
And that was pretty accurate as far as, you know, the financiers and where the country's gone and, you know, our country's been overrun. And, you know, you talk about when that happened exactly. And, you know, it happened
in the 80s. But, you know, that's when it was super, super putting a fast lane, so to speak.
But that's why the Communist Control Act was passed originally.
You know, people knew all this stuff in the Reagan years.
You know, and just to go back
to, you know, you brought up a lot of
interesting things, and that's why the Groypers
are holding
more traction, because you brought up a lot
of things that, you know, that
is true as far as a debt-based systems.
But then you failed to notice on who actually owns all those systems and who actually runs that.
And, you know, and it's the Groypers that seem to have their finger on the pulse as far as, you know, the Jewish community seems to be running all these operatives that you seem to talk about.
From our Fed to the National Reserve, you know, to 1913 is exactly
when our country
started to go into
decline and talk about all those things
that you just brought up.
So I mean... Yeah, but the problem
is, look, it's not that I'm allergic.
I mean, shut up, shut up.
We could talk about that, okay?
I'm not allergic to pointing out extremely outsized Jewish presence
in among the capitalist class.
I have no problem with that.
What I take issue with is this idea that you could just get rid of all the Jews
and somehow you're fixing the source of the problem.
Because let's remember
originally,
okay, the financial
capitalists were
the Anglo-Atlantic elite.
You know,
and the
foundation of Americaica's federal reserve system and capitalist system you know
comes from the rockefellers comes from the morgans comes from the monopolists by and large
weren't even jewish so does that does that take away the
jewish um you know the zionist jewish mafia like you know factions among the u.s ruling class
absolutely not i mean that's clear and obvious to anyone. But this idea that you can just, you know, what? And what even is the solution? The idea you just deport every Jew or remove every Jew and you're targeting the core of the ruling class.
It's not really true.
And that's just a fact, you know.
There are a lot of Jews.
There's George Sorosos he's like half Jewish
you know there's
the head of black rock
but then there's also a lot
you know and it just sounds cringe
saying that because it's just like
well it's just the fucking truth.
I don't know how, that might not sound good to you
rhetorically, but it's just the fucking truth.
You can't just hit a Jew button and fix the fucking problem.
And I, why, but why that narrative
gains traction versus us?
It's because it's simpler.
There's less of a barrier to entry. It's just simpler.
That's why that, I mean, why is that gaining more traction?
Because there's less education that's required to adopt that worldview.
Everyone has an instinct to adopt this knee-jerk, you know, whatever, tram.
It's so easy.
But when you demand more theory and thinking and, like, you know, that actually, that actually limits the amount of people you're going to be able to reach in terms of bringing them into your cadre, you know, to your vanguard.
And that's okay because only a minority of the population are fit to be communists, actually.
It's always been the truth.
China, for example, I think it's about 90 million are in the Communist Party out of a population of a billion,
right? So about 10%, you know, most people can't dedicate that amount of time to just understanding how the world works.
You know, and another thing about Groyper's is that they're just a direct splinter from the Republican Party.
So if you want to just think of this in terms of a river and, you know, the way the river is
moving, the dominant rivers in in
the u.s on the u.s landscape it's the democrat and republican parties so if you fork off from the
the republican river t p u.sa and all that shit you're going to get way more steam and more motion because it's already
fucking there. We are not beginning from the Democratic Party. We're not beginning from a pre-established
momentum in U.S. politics. We're not beginning from anywhere. We're beginning from something that, know at least to be frank it's it appears pretty dried up
it's pretty old and that's the communist history within this country it's very niche it's very small
it's very old you know it's small. It's very old, you know, it's there.
There was the CPUSA and all the shit that went down with that.
But ultimately, we are not attached to the immediacy of U.S. politics in ways that our rivals are.
We're just, we don't, for example, look at Nick Fuentes.
I think I've watched, I have never watched one of his streams start to finish, but there
might have been one or two that I tuned in.
There was one that I told you about with the Charlie Kirk thing.
I wanted to see his reaction. There was one other time. I think I briefly tuned in.
But when I tune in his streams, he's talking about things I don't care about and my community
doesn't care about. Like, well, what about what Ben Shapiro said and what Matt Walsh said and like all these other, he'll name Republican politicians I've never even heard of and talking heads?
And that's more pressing and more immediate as far as what exists now in U.S. politics.
Like, that's what there is now.
But that doesn't interest us a lot because we're just, like, so beyond that. We're just so, we're, we we're we're that radical i guess like we've already
arrived at a radical conclusion that you know there is no meaningful political change that can
happen within the republican or democratic party or mainstream U.S. politics.
So we've checked out from giving our attention or care to U.S. politics.
Now, the majority of the American masses haven't.
Majority of the American people still, when when they think politics they think of established
politics right and so they're much more plugged into that and more sensitive to it than we are
because you know that's all they know so what we're doing takes a lot more patience you know i
i don't have the ability to pretend i care about what's happening in the democratic party or
the republican party because i don't consider it meaningful because we see the end conclusion.
We see the logical conclusion of it all.
So we're really just trying to build something from scratch totally.
Now you seem to have faith in the Republican Party.
You mentioned there's the party of the people, whatever.
Look, buddy, I don't know, you seem older than me,
like you live through the 80s.
I don't know what I could tell you.
When I tell you, there's nothing meaningful that can
happen there,
and that they're both fundamentally compromised
and that mainstream U.S. politics is a dead end
and it's bought out, okay,
by financial interests.
If you want to call those Jews, call them Jews.
But both the democrat and republican party are fundamentally compromised by the people who have money don't i don't care what you call them
um they don't represent the will of the american people and you know when you arrive at that conclusion what can you do you can continue
getting a lot of attention from you know being adjacent to these discourses and stuff but i i don't
i've never had the illusion of being let in.
You know, that's really what it is.
Some of these other influencers
really want to be let in.
I don't want to be let in,
because I could see the system's not viable.
So I don't know what you have to say, but that's really it.
I mean, again, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you present itself, uh, you know, you digress well.
And, you know, this is where I've listened to your podcast and, you know, you talk as an old lefty, like an old liberal.
And you know, and you say you don't,
you know,
affiliate with them.
But, you know,
your branch of them, just how the
Groypers are a branch of... No how the Groypers are a branch
of the... No. No. But you are
because you can't take
that ideology
away from Bernie Sanders
away from
AOS. These people have dedicated
their entire
political careers
to forward in communism.
And then you got people like you
say, you know, say, you know,
that's not my version of
communism, or we're going to start
from the ground up, but to think that you could actually
steal the torch from the movements that they did you know what what movement but what movement
you know i'll tell you for example bernie in, he had the primaries rigged against him.
So he lost, and then he endorsed Hillary Clinton.
2020 came around, and it was pretty much rigged against him, thanks to Obama.
And he endorsed Joe Biden.
And there's not a single thing from Bernie Sanders.
So how can you pretend?
How can you pretend that the left aren't, you know, in that direction?
You know, that's the thing.
Because I'm trying to tell you
Bernie was very popular
among people
and that did represent
a lot of people
but
the only direction
is the people
who control the supply
of the money
the credit
the printing of the money okay yes
and and that's it so it doesn't matter what bernie wants it doesn't matter what people lean in
it doesn't matter what leftists want it doesn't doesn't matter the only thing that matters is a preordained agenda yeah i agree with that there's a preordained agenda
and it's going they're going to push it through regardless of what anyone wants and uh but see like
see we have a name for republicans that out of house. They're called rhinos.
Republican in name only.
So, every single...
Like, again, this goes back to...
Listen to...
Power works two ways, right?
So when a Republican, you know,
signs with a Democrat, when he supersedes, our power goes to the left.
So every single time a Republican, there's no left.
There's no left.
Well, no, see, power does work that way.
Whether you want to, that's what they're fighting for.
Every, every bill, we lose rights.
We lose power as citizens.
Yeah, but don't you see it's a show?
So every single time a Republican, you know, concedes and votes with the left that the right hates, power moves away from the right and closer to the left.
So Thomas, Thomas Massey and Rokana signed and passed a bill to release the Epstein files. Okay. So did the files get released?
No.
No, they didn't.
So, you know, the whole thing, everything that happens in Congress is just theater.
It doesn't matter.
There's nothing that can happen there that's of meaningful, decisive significance that's going to break from the preordained agenda.
Well, one more than the other.
One party more than the other, for sure.
I mean,
No, they're both.
No,
you got to give a little credit.
I'm sorry.
You have to give a little credit. I'm sorry. You have to give a little credit.
This system doesn't work well, but it does work.
None of the credit.
It does work well.
I mean, it doesn't work well, but it does work.
You can put your votes in.
You can elect people, and they do represent the people, just like how you're a little imaginary chat.
They don't, but they objectively don't.
They don't.
But how do they?
They don't.
On the local level, Republicans blow the doors off the left as far as state rights, personal rights, and everything in
between.
What personal rights, though?
If you speak out against the system and the government in a meaningful way, they're going
to get you.
And it doesn't matter. So what rights? I mean,
right to what? You're talking about very trivial things that are ultimately not very meaningful.
Well, for starters, you know, there's only one party that's, you know, demanding, you know, to a hand in your guns, you know, communists, you know, there's only one party that's you know, demanding, you know, to a hand
in your guns, you know, communists
you know, they love that.
You know, it's the left that, you know,
you can't have it, you know, a different
type of view if you're armed, you know,
that's a great state, right?
You want to know something, though?
You want to know something?
Let me explain it to you, then.
Because you're confused.
I'm not.
Don't, it's a policy.
No, let me explain you to you.
Getting rid of the guns is a uniparty agenda what happens is when the elite realize the people are not ready and they're going to resist too much they give them the republicans oh we're not going to take away your guns.
Both the Republicans
and the
Democrats
want to take
the guns.
The first
gun control
acts in
California.
That's news
to me.
Yeah.
Well,
did you know
the history?
Look at the
history of gun
control in California.
It comes
from Ronald Reagan.
Okay.
So.
Oh, you mean the guy that was a Democrat and he switched, you know, just on 40-1st-year-year?
While he was a Republican.
He did it as a right-wing policy.
Not all his views switched over.
I mean, you can make that argument too, right?
They're going to wait.
You can make that argument too. Just like Trump
promised to be anti-war,
even though he's going to war with Venezuela.
Next Democrat, 10 years ago,
he was a registered Democrat.
I mean, not every view switches over.
I'm telling you, the Republicans, at least one generation from now, if we have that much time, they're going to be for gun control.
I'm just letting you know.
They wait.
Sometimes they wait
it out and they wait for people
that. That's speculation.
No, it's not. I'm telling you
systemically they want to take the guns.
Everyone does. I live in a Republican state.
I left a failed fascist.
You live in a Republican state,
and your Republican governor might dare never to say in public he wants to take your guns.
But he's going to wait till the coast is clear,
so he has a good excuse to, and he'll do it.
Again, that's speculation.
No,
it's just,
it's just a game.
It's all theater.
No,
it's not.
Like I said,
you can make that argument
that one day that might happen,
but I'm telling you,
until then,
you know,
it's just speculation. And so far, there's no
Republicans. I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to finish it this way, okay? The Republican Party,
the only reason Americans haven't had their guns taken away is because the American people.
The American people are the power.
No matter what.
When it's guns or it's abortion, it's ending.
The real power is the American people.
But the American people don't have an independent voice.
So the Democrats and Republicans
trick them into thinking that they're representing
their will and their interests, but they're both
on the same team when all is said and done
against the American people.
That's just a fact.
You sound old and you haven't gotten that yet,
and I find that sad.
Maybe one day you'll wake up.
I bring on this guy named Texas Toast.
Go ahead. Hmm... All right, well, guys, I don't know, I i mean i can't hear the guy by the way if you want to text to speech something into the stream you just go into the kick dashboard and there's my big face and you click it and then you can donate to me
and you can you can say whatever you want without having to use your voice but you do have to pay me
because it's not free.
So is anyone requesting?
All right, here he is.
You got to unmute everyone.
Go ahead. you got to unmute everyone go ahead hello
good evening Merry Christmas
Mm-hmm
So what's going on
Yeah um I just wanted to, I've heard you talk last hour, thank you for stopping the troll fest.
But I just, you're pretty well versed in your financial history.
And I just wanted to see
what your thoughts were on Bitcoin
and how that fits into
the system or if it does
it all in your worldview or
what do you think about that?
I actually increasingly, I'm leaning on the view
It was made by the government
I don't exactly know why
You know, I don't exactly
Admittedly there's contradictions
in it there. Like, I don't know exactly
what the purpose is.
But I think that, uh, what's
the Satashi?
What is it? Satoshi Nakamoto, whatever.
I think that was the government.
I think they made it.
Bitcoin.
And I think it has to do with money laundering, you know, probably.
This is like the biggest thing the government has to do because we have a huge undisclosed budget.
I mean, there's all sorts of things
you can look at it.
But that's what I think.
Right, but do you think
that, you know, because
in my view, a lot of the
because I agree with a lot
of your points on you know, the American worker and
are just people in general and, and they're, they were ruled by the banking interests generally.
And so, in my mind,
a lot of that would be solved
with a
uncensurable money
and store value.
And so that's...
I don't think Bitcoin will ever
will ever acquire value outside of
outside of being measured in terms of
the fiat dollar.
I don't think there's
I don't think there's much room for it to replace it
you know because
You don't think it has value and it's energy
It's inputted into it
Yeah I've heard that argument before
I think I've actually heard land
Make that argument
And um That sounds I've actually heard land make that argument.
And that sounds interesting for like
a hypothetical society where
everything is just done from scratch.
But
no, I don't think
so because i think that
bernand gomez added five to the war chest grope scared to debate so they had to send the boomer
brandon what's up with the five appreciate you i think that basically um
the way that the current credit system works is that it's based on the monopoly and the natural
resources which is oil right the petrol dollar so the sale of oil in the denomination of oil and dollars and then you have the money recycling
mechanism where the u.s is you know vacuum cleaning the global profits of the world basically
through the dollar system.
And you know, Bitcoin,
Brits say it has intrinsic value because it consumes energy.
Takes for granted
all of the supply chains that are necessary
to produce the energy in the first place
and i think i don't think bitcoin could become a self-sustaining store of value
that could itself measure for example the price of oil and all this other kind of stuff.
So
could energy consumption
by itself be a source of value?
I don't think so.
It's an interesting angle and way of looking at it,
but I'm not convinced.
Yeah, I would just have you,
somebody that I think you would find
really interesting is a guy called Simon Dixon.
I'm sure you've talked to him before.
He is a, I guess,
former British nationalist,
or he was a British citizen, now he's not.
But he is a Muslim convert and has interesting worldviews.
I just say, look at him. But thanks for the time. I got say look at him.
But thanks for the time. I got to go.
Yep.
All right, I guess we'll bring Agent Jensen on.
What's up, Agent Jensenensen what's going on all right space is kind of running late
i'm going to be honest
we we're probably going to be honest.
We're probably going to wrap the space up. Go back. Kick.com slash infrared.
We're going to be on stream for a little long, just a little bit longer.
So, yeah, you know. It's quite late, actually.
All right, so we're going to wrap this space up.
All right, y'all.
I know y'all been holding it up,
but now's the time to crab it.
I'm just kidding.
It's okay.
I'd rather, y'all
What's up, Brandon, appreciate you.
It's like, you know, I'm Mr. Crabs
and, you know, my gift to you guys.
Oh, so's white tequila.
Yo, Osos, what's up,
Rochester? Keep up the good work, great stream.
Comrade kid, thank you for the five, bro.
Appreciate it. Guys, my Christmas
gift to you is that I'm
not going to
I'm not going to, um, I'm not going to put pressure to crab it up.
The crusty crab can be closed.
It doesn't have to be producing as many patties today.
We don't gotta crab it up too much.
It's Christmas.
And, you know...
Thomas, bro, appreciate you.
No, guys, I really mean it.
It's not reverse psychology.
Come on, guys.
I'm basically doing reverse psychology then, you know, at that point.
It's like, oh, he's saying, and then, oh, no, it's like, come on, guys.
I mean it.
I actually mean it.
I do mean it, though.
I'm chilling, guys.
I'm chilling. I'm chilling, guys, I'm chilling.
On the low, no, I'm gonna be real with y'all.
You see, I'm not a pastor. I'm not a preacher who tries to scam.
I'm not a scammer.
On some real shit, combined with the partner revenue, I think in the past three or four
months, we have been really crabbing it up.
Not in like extremely drastic dramatic ways but i think at this point enough has been saved up
enough has been saved up for at least a month of just free, free grinding, like on YouTube, where I don't have to, like, worry about meeting a certain quota. Like, at least a month, I can, you know, try to just focus on growth rather than just bills, you know.
And get a new mic.
Um... get a new mic um you know
I don't
I need to talk to a mic
I mean I need to talk to a mic person
I don't even know how to fucking
I have a decent mic
I don't know
maybe it's my settings or something.
There's a lot of software stuff, you know?
But y'all have been very generous and very, very generous.
Cazol, what's up, bro? Appreciate you.
Someone added five to the war chest.
Thank you.
But you should really use the text to speech, you know?
It's not connected with an XLR cable.
Yeah, I need to talk to an
expert and get a perfect mic. I don't know.
Also, there's some, you know, I'm going to be
uploading a video soon about
a talk I had with someone from China.
I'm going to be uploading that's infrared soon
so get ready for the channel
start uploading again I want to do that before the year ends Mini USB cable.
Yeah, I don't even know what's how I set this up, honestly.
I think this mic just might be broken.
Guys, is the sound quality deteriorated?
Or is it the same as it's always been is it the same
oh it's the same
okay
um the same okay um yeah guys this might be the last stream until let me see so uh i don't know If I stream again
Yeah I mean maybe
Maybe I could do Sunday and Tuesday
I don't know guys
What do you guys think?
You want to just call it?
You want to take a winter break from infrared streams?
Have me come back 2026.
We'll see. Thomas, what's up, bro? Appreciate you.
Get the Grinch mask. I don't got a Grinch mask, bro.
Am I hungry? i'm actually not that hungry
but i need protein
i do need protein.
The old Putin-Bush communications.
Yeah, I mean,
why is anyone surprised, you know?
Putin was a liberal, a centrist, liberal Democrat who was pushed in a based direction by necessity, not ideology.
Ideologically, Putin wanted to join NATO at a certain point, you know? Thank you. You know, I thought y'all would love the text to speech thing more.
What I'm not even saying is that agreed.
I'm just, well,
we'll see.
I just implemented it.
Um,
and 2026 will be there.
Edit the graphic.
Could someone just give me something?
I didn't have a fucking picture.
Yeah, the voice sucks.
That's so true.
But the picture of me, I don't have a picture.
I don't have a picture I have a picture to use for it
I need like a icon or something
I mean I don't know like
I look at original content
there's nothing here I could use
I can use
I content, there's nothing here I could use.
I don't know what I think of that Well this is such a cool thing This is so cool
I'm beating up Redditors that's so cool
While the dark Mali temple is up Redditors. That's so cool.
Wow, the Dark Malee Temple is so cool.
But I need
something.
I need something.
Just any placeholder.
This is so sick
I need this
for a patch
to put on my hat
no way this is real
oh is AI
okay it's not real. Hey!
Use Mr. Crabs.
I don't know, bro.
Is it true that on Twitch, you're not allowed to use text to speech?
Hold on. You know, Oh, so I can stream on Twitch with this. Oh, I can stream on Twitch with this.
Oh, I can stream on Twitch with this.
Should I just stream to Twitch right now?
Should I just go on Twitch right now?
Ones if you want me to go to Twitch right now and just stream there right now.
Okay.
Let's just like test it out.
I'll just like go and chill on Twitch.
We're just going to test it out, okay?
Twitch.tv.tv slash infrared. I'm literally going to be there like in a second.