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um,

yeah, guys, listen, I want to let you know something. A few things about the space tonight.

The reason we're doing such a late stream, uh, you know, this is one of the latest ones we've done in a while.

But the reason it's so late is because I wanted to give you guys time to actually get questions

or things people wanted to confront me with.

You basically have fucking nothing.

Okay, I looked in that channel, the Spaces content channel, and there is fucking one question, which is a guy asking about Maga.

And then everything else are just trolls.

And I'm just kind of like, is that all you could really get?

Is that it?

You know?

So we'll see how it goes, but we'll try it.

You know, I'm going to try to do the space and run the space.

I don't have any...

But I'm not...

I'm not going to have a lot of patience, to be honest.

We're probably going to have to figure out how to change these up.

Um... um um And by the way, the space is definitely I don't know if it's recorded or not,

but I will delete it off my timeline

because it hurts the algorithm.

So keep that in mind.

Everyone, make sure you turn your notifications on

on Discord. I don't care if you're getting pinged too much recently. You better fucking turn those notifications on for real. Versailles with the 10. Appreciate you, brother. So this is the space. And yeah, these spaces, I wanted to change it up and have a thing because I know people are scared to use their voice where they can write down their questions and ask them that way.

But you guys, you know, I gave you guys a day to do that.

There's really nothing.

So maybe you couldn't find anything.

I don't know.

But there's no...

For all the talk about our party, nobody...

They know they can't trick you.

They don't want me to address whatever they have to confront me with.

Because they know they're lying and you know they're lying.

Their goal has always been to deceive people outside of this community into, you know, having false perceptions about who we are and what we're about. Okay. So I'm going to start just scrolling through the spaces content thing. There's a lot of stupid shit you guys screenshoted.

Um, really, honestly, do better. For real. Comrade, what's going on? For real, do better. You know, like, it's kind of fucking

ridiculous. Um, but we'll go through it. So, someone screenshoted the peto, phyto,

phyto, peto. Um, yeah, like I said, do better.

I don't know why you're...

Anyway, let's read out what they ask.

Why does ACP not follow basic rules of an ML Dem Cent party?

Based on what there's no congress that has been celebrated you mean convened well we ratified the constitution which contains protocols for the first national Congress, but the idea that you can launch a party with a national Congress within the first day is fucking retarded. Okay, you actually have to build the party's foundations up before you can have a completed democratic uh system within it no cc has been elected okay just come back in two months literally less than two months actually, like a month and a half.

I think the entire premise that according to the political philosophy of Marxism, Leninism, you start out with democracy. That's not true. You don't start

out with fully fleshed out democratic formal procedures. For example, the Soviet Union did not

have a truly democratic constitution until 1936. The first thing you begin with is some kind of collective principle. And then once you have that collective principle, as you build the foundations up, you can begin to actually implement more broader formal

democratic processes. And the democratic procedures and forms of a party will never be fully completed until the party seizes power, even then it's not fully

completed. Party democracy really only becomes finished after the seizure and consolidation of power of the state. Until then, it's always going to be unfinished. Why? Because the party is building itself up. It's growing. And as it expands, as it has more and more people, that is where the democratic procedures really start to get tested. When you're launching with only a few hundred people,

yeah, we try to make it as democratic as we can in the beginning.

You know, we have votes to ratify the Constitution.

For example, we maintain an internal culture of free criticism but as far as the democratic

democratically elected leadership body like the cc you need eligible cadre who have experience

to be eligible for that you need to train up cadre to at least an extent who have proven that they are willing to, um, willing to, how should I put it, elevate to the Supreme Principle, the Collective Principle,

because party democracy, according to Democratic Centralism, is not the same thing as liberal or bourgeois democracy. It is democracy under the

assumption and the premise of a collective principle, meaning we are voting on the direction of a

collective body that is binding on everyone regardless of their opinion.

That's what we're voting on.

What is at stake within the procedures of party democracy

is not the consent of so many different individuals.

What is at stake is the direction of how the collective is going to move forward.

And the collective moves forward, regardless of individual opinion, with respect to the outcome of the democratic

procedure. And the political culture of Marxism, Leninism is such that you acquiesce to a collective

principle. The burden is on the individual, not to say this is my

opinion because it's what I want or it's how I feel. The burden is upon the individual to prove,

for example, why a given proposal, or why a a given argument or why a given rejection of someone's proposal is grounded in an overall consideration for what is best for the collective party, what is best for the direction the collective should take, what is best for the collective to reach its goals. You don't tally people up with so many different feelings and opinions and then you just kind of amalgamate that into a collect. No, you begin with a collective and from there you have democratic

procedures so there there are fundamental differences between the bourgeois

principle of democracy which is with which is rooted in individualism and the notion of democracy that is proper to democratic centralism.

That is a notion of democracy which is in place not because democracy is seen as the supreme sacred principle but because it is an effective mechanism for getting a pulse and accurately reflecting the will of the party, you know, making sure that parties are receptive to their membership, that they're receptive to their cadre.

There is no evidence that at this stage, leadership is not being receptive to the cadre of the party.

There were a few wreckers who in no way reflected anything close to the majority, not even a significant minority.

In total, they cannot amount to more than maybe 60s. not even a significant minority in total they

cannot amount to more than maybe

seven people in total

okay

seven to nine I think

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nothing at all significant

I think even that's a lot nothing at all significant.

I think even that's a lot, you know?

We have three Danny Shil. Yeah, roughly seven, I think I can count.

That is not any...

And all they would have had to do is formulate their dissenting positions in some kind of way that is not individualistic, that is saying, no, no, this is the, you know, Haas is the worst for the party, for the direction of the party, not Haas is the worst because of some metaphysical principles or because

he hurt my feelings or I don't know, because Jackson's tweets or something.

So, frankly, the notion we don't have democratic centralism, it's a little ridiculous.

Jimmy, what's going on,

brother? Appreciate you. So you screenshot this troll, who is probably a minor, asking about

McDonald's, which I'm not going to respond to, because they're probably a minor, to be honest.

Someone is asking, why are MAGA the revolutionary subject?

I would not put it that way.

Maga is not a subject.

It is reactionary anti-communist movement.

It is reactionary with respect to what?

America is a reactionary

state with respect to global geopolitics. I agree.

Within American politics, how is MAGA reactionary?

Compared to what?

See, you need to be careful with your words,

because the notion of progressive and reactionary

is objective within Marxism.

So how is MAGA objectively reactionary? is objective within Marxism.

So how is MAGA objectively reactionary with respect to US politics?

In what way is MAGA, for example,

reactionary with respect to the Democratic Party?

Jimmy, what's going on?

Maga is far from

reactionary within American

politics. Rather, Maga

is the center within American

politics. Maga quite

poignantly

reflects the current trajectory and direction of the USA. The reactionaries

are actually the Hassan Pike reviewers and the DSA and the liberals who are organizing federal workers, those are

reactionaries trying to resist an inevitable outcome of history. So you don't know what reactionary

means. And you're saying that we have to go to lengths and using slurs.

And well, that's not, we don't have to go to lengths to defend ourselves from leftists.

It just is something that comes pretty natural to anyone who has a spine regarding people who were caught using slurs in private settings

I don't think they were going out of their way to do that I think that they were doing it privately because they actually go out of their way to not use bad words.

And most people go out of their way to not use bad words.

Out of professionalism, politeness, and so on and so on.

But the idea that the default is that you're politically correct and you have to go out of your way to be bad, I don't think it's very relatable.

It's very college-coded, what you're saying.

It's like you live on a college campus for your whole life, and you think that's the norm.

It's not.

I'm sorry.

Political correctness is an exception.

It's not a norm anywhere for any normal person.

Another troll who's probably a minor.

Okay? who's probably a minor. Okay.

Another troll.

Another troll.

Sophie, who is a Fed.

Pretty sure we have evidence they're fed. I could be wrong about that, but this person in particular, I remember being shown is a Fed. Maybe it was someone else. Haas has me blocked, but maybe someone can ask him why Alex Dillard was spotted in the, and he's, they're talking about Zoltan's PSF telegram coordinating at Rage Against the Machine with so two things one uh whatever that is

predated the party by years three things actually two um we have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to any kind of active

collaboration any kind of active working with any kind of active um connection with any kind of

uh fascist neo nazi farazi, far-right, whatever.

But to be absolutely

clear about this,

I was informed

about what that, because guess what,

even I didn't know, right?

I didn't even fucking know the lore.

And so these people

made a big fuss about it.

So I looked into it and I've been properly informed.

When it comes to Alex, he had years ago a very incorrect view which in no way is reflects anything to do with our party

he had this view that he can somehow convert

these far-right people

to communism

and to an anti-imperialist

communist cause

because, you know, the logic was, well, left liberals, it's not working out, so let's

convert these far right guys by, you know, having dialogue with them and going on their shows

and yada, yada, yada.

And, you know, if these are huge podcasters reaching tens of thousands of people I guess it would be a little more understandable of course you want to reach people who are misguided but it was a huge mistake to try to convert Zoltan and these weird, very fringe, marginal people who in no way represent the masses, you know, of misguided people.

So that was just a very incorrect and naive strategy, which I totally, I never agreed with.

I totally oppose and reject and disagree with.

And he himself does not agree with it anymore.

And so, well, given the fact that he made this mistake in the past, shouldn't we blacklist him?

And that's the third thing I want to get to.

The third thing I would like to get to is that I want to remind everyone about the German Communist Party in the 1930s, which was full. Grant, appreciate you, which was full of people who were converted away from the Nazii party and the s a they would take these lumpin from the s a

and they would convert them away from nazism and to communism so that was what what the KPD was doing.

They had ex-Nazis in the KPD who saw the light of communism.

And you mean to tell me that our party cannot have a guy who was never themselves a Nazi but just had an incorrect naive strategy

where he thought he was going to somehow convert them to the correct view, even though

they are bad faith, very bad people, in particular particular these guys he was talking to were very bad so this

guy wasn't even a former nazi that's in our party he was just a guy who had a very very naive

bad strategy with respect to anti-fascism.

So to make it appear as though that somehow our party is affiliated with Nazism, because we have a member who two or three years ago was very naive and

probably took see for example look at this party the patriotic socialist front look at the opportunism

we were called Pat Sox for many years.

And this guy who's actually really a Hitler Nazi,

remember, these people rarely ever fronted this way,

at least as far as I could see,

they always concealed their real view. And they said, oh, I'm just a kind of syndicalist or whatever.

Deep down, they're just full Hitler, extremely hateful Nazis, you know?

Anyway, they created a group called Patriotic Socialism Party or something,

because they themselves agreed with the left liberals that this label is Nazism.

And they were like, yeah, unironically, yes.

And they made all these, you know, claims about how they're committed to anti-imperialism and opposing interventionism. So, you know, um, of course, maybe some guy got confused and made a very wrong decision to take them at face value and try to have dialogue.

This was years before our party and it had nothing to do with us.

It had nothing to do with me.

I found out about it because of these people.

And of course, when I found out, I said,

is there a guy who's in our party who's affiliated with Zoltanis and all this shit?

So I was properly informed about what actually

the context is, and it's clear that the gentleman who's in our party has no affiliation with

these people. He completely repudiates and rejects that very false and poor strategy.

Now let's actually start asking the real questions, though. So Sophie and her friends,

her whole gang, are openly affiliating

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the claims that they make about us are almost only ever truly amplified by neo-Nazis.

For example, they made the claim that were being funded by Russia.

Neo-Nazis are the ones who picked that up and amplified it.

So they are active, not only are they actively affiliating with and working with neo-Nazis,

but that is a key part of their strategy to take us down and oppose us.

So these are actual fascist collaborators the

American Communist Party does not tolerate any kind of fascist collaborations we're very

patient with individuals who are misguided.

We're very normal and patient and human.

Zoltan and that whole crew, these guys have been in it for decades or something,

and they are very, very much conniving and Machiavellian

and very much lost in the sauce

past any point of return.

And just like Brie, for example,

Brie is likewise lost in the sauce,

but they work with Brie freely,

without any issues.

And, okay, they're mentioning Caleb Moppin.

Caleb has nothing to do with our party

I can't verify

whatever you're claiming about him

I can't very

you probably lie about him too

I don't know you lie about us you probably

lie about him

I think many of i don't agree with obviously i don't agree with

many of his uh positions and decisions so what can I say?

What can I say?

That's really that.

Okay, so that's all.

That's all the written questions that I can see.

So let's bring on uh ray ray what's going on all right they disconnected i think uh... r e let's bring on r e what's going on r e thank and i'm doing good thank you um first of all thank you for having me. I've been keeping track

of what the American

Communist Party's been up to.

I actually have a question.

Sure.

And that is,

and that is,

since with fascism on the rise, and many people are, well, basically,

fascism already here,

accelerating really quickly as then we expect it.

Many people, many Americans are

are, well, American

leftists are divided between

fighting, between actually

fighting fascism or basically

fleeing, fleeing out of fear

for potential persecution.

And my question is, what role do you think the American Communist Party should have at this given moment?

Given that we're seeing a divided left

with who are

who are either trying to flee or basically fighting each other over how should we

how we defeat fascism?

Well, I think in truth, we don't really have a left right now.

I think we have a lot of confused ex-democrats or Democrats.

There's still Democrats, actually.

But the question of actually building left-wing politics is an open door right now.

And with respect to the question of fascism, we have to be very careful about what that

actually means.

Do I think we're on a fascist trajectory?

Yes, I do.

But that is not exclusively or even uniquely coming from Trump or Maga or the Republicans. That is something that was built up by the Uniparty for many decades. You know, the power of the DHS, who built it was really Obama the NSA and on you know

before that George W Bush people that are ostensibly anti-maga right anti-Trump

that's not to say that Trump is immune from the fascist trajectory far from it I'm just saying you know it's not to say that Trump is immune from the fascist trajectory.

Far from it. I'm just saying, you know, it's not Cheeto Mussolini, quote, unquote.

It's a system. It's a fascist system that has been in the making.

And I think accelerated the most under Biden, frankly.

And, you know, with respect to the question of how fascism will take shape well i think many of these so-called leftists will be commissioned as

some of the black shirts themselves i think the d DSA types and the Hassan Piker,

some of Hassan Piker's viewers, I think they are prime candidates

for a reactionary kind of blackshirt, fascist

movement. And what's going to really provoke a

fascist movement in this country is a successful communist uh movement

or a successful progressive left wing movement and until we have that there isn't going to be fascism so be clear, fascism really only takes shape as a form of

anti-communism. It's a response to the threat of communism. Without that threat, it doesn't really

take shape. You have a lot of similarities and there's a trajectory toward some

kind of some kind of dictatorship that suspends constitutional liberties and so on and so on and

norms. But fascism is uniquely a type of anti-communism.

And I'll give you an example of black shirt activity that I've witnessed in my experience in 2025.

We went to the Port of Newark to organize drainage truckers to unionize them because these truckers had previously been in unions. The labor

movement made huge gains to organize them and unionize them. And then Reagan came along and

neoliberalism came along and they were all broken up from their unions, and they were misclassified as independent contractors, and all their benefits were taken away, and it was just a complete rollback for

not only the labor movement as a whole

but them in particular, right?

So we went to

just first, first stage,

by no means the end, but just the

first stage, a concentrated effort

to inform them that legally they're being misclassified,

according to new NLRB regulations and new local laws in New Jersey. They're being misclassified.

That they are basically being scammed. They're working hours and hours for free.

And that if they come together, you know, the Facebook groups and so on and so on,

you can begin a discussion about how do we actually move forward, having a collective voice to organize and challenge this.

And they were very interested in that discussion, you know.

And that was square one.

So that is what we did.

That is what we did.

By the way, we're not proposing a union ourselves.

Like, we're not making one ourselves.

There are existing unions that are very interested.

One very, very large one.

Not the UDDA.

That's not union.

That's a movement to build one.

A very big union, right?

And that's what this is all about.

It's just empowering and giving

our assistance to the growth of the labor

movement.

And we truly

provoked a pretty violent, I think a

violent reaction. I don't want to

exaggerate. But we

had a lot of people very enthusiastically engaged to wreck this, to docks and intimidate the truckers, to call them up and threaten them, all this kind of crazy shit to collude with police

and God knows

perhaps they called the Port Authority

because police

removed some of our guys recently

which is illegal

by the way we're going to be contesting that

and there was this sudden fanatical

enthusiasm to block this and to help the companies, who are, by the way, aligned with the Democrats

in this specific instance. So that isn't, imagine if we actually started to become more successful. Imagine if

we just didn't hand out pamphlets, but it started to take off from there and become something

much bigger. Imagine the reaction it would provoke among these DSA, these jealous DSA types.

And everyone, you need to know that black shirts always come from the ranks of disgruntled,

embittered, and jealous ex-socialists, almost always.

They usually come from the socialist movement, and for whatever reason they get embittered and disillusion with it and they become fascists and you know who told

us that was uh i believe it was uh comrades from nicaragua, you know, in the 80s,

the death squads that were funded by the CIA,

these guys,

because they saw what was happening to our party,

where we had some wreckers.

They said, this reminds us of when we started our shit,

all the people who did what Bree and Danny did to you,

they went on to become the chiefs of the death squads.

This is what our comrades in Nicaragua told us. So, you know, don't fear monger about

fascism when there's not even a communist movement. That's all I'd say. They're not going to have

fascism until there's something to respond say. They're not going to have fascism until there's something to respond to.

There's not going to be fascism because DSA is considered a threat. It's not. There's not going to be

fascism because they think Hassan Piker is a threat because they don't, because they publish him on the

front page of Twitch and because every corporate media outlet gives him puff pieces and glorifies him. He's never de-platform from anywhere. All the corporations love him and he's never given a hard time whatsoever. He's never sabotaged or wrecked in any kind of fucking way okay so he's not a

threat so fascism has to be a response to some kind of revolutionary communist or socialist

movement and that does not exist in this country right now it just doesn't and the whole thing about trump being a fascist it's just a scam the democrats use to perpetually make people fall behind them because we're taught this myth this this form of historical revisionism, that Hitler just came out of nowhere because democracy failed us.

When in reality, Hitler was a response to the Bolshevik revolution and he was an anti-communist

who wanted to stop the German

communists and he wanted to plunder Russia

and he wanted to destroy the Soviet Union

and he wanted to

protect the German capitalist class from a rising militant workers movement in Germany.

We don't have that movement, okay?

We need to be all in on building that movement here in this country.

And every time liberals say we're under a threat, Elon Musk who's going to bring us fascism,

you should respond to them and ask, okay, but where's the Bolsheviks?

Where's the German communists?

Where's the actual revolutionary movement that the fascism is in response to. That movement doesn't exist

here, and it will never exist for as long as people are being like Hassan Piker and trailing

behind the Democratic Party in the name of anti-fascism or the Joe

Sims for that matter who does the same thing

so that's that's my

long response basically

hey

and that's and I

actually and that leads me to a second question, and that is, if there is a, if there will be a revolution, what role will the American Communist Party to party, what role will the American Communist Party would the American Communist Party would party what role would the American

Communist Party

would play

in

in in

in

establishing

basically

as socialist

communist

uh

America as well as

what

what

role yeah I'll this will be the last question and then I'll bring Ray up

but basically we are pursuing the path of building dual power

dual power is basically building alternative

institutions of power that occupy the source of power is

organization by the way you know organization's everything if you can have organization if you can

have legitimate authority people regard as legitimate. And what is

legitimate authority, by the way? Legitimate authority is not only an authority you're going to

take orders from, but it's also an authority that you're going to regard as representing the best interests of the common,

the commons, not just individual interests.

So in this way, people are willing to make sacrifices as far as their individual,

immediate self-interest in the name of a bigger principle or in the name of the community or the collective or something, right?

So, for example, maybe you won't run red lights or maybe you'll follow laws because you were at, you know, could every single cop take on the whole population?

No, of course not. Power, it's kind of like an illusion. illusion of course it's rooted in fear to some extent

but at the end of the day people regard the u.s state as a legitimate authority for which they

are willing to sacrifice immediate individual interests for the sake of something bigger you you know, something that can occupy a scale of

organizing millions and millions of people.

So that there's order, law and order, basically, right?

So this is what Mao's PLA did.

This is what the Bolsheviks did. Or not even just the Bolsheviks, but the phenomena of the rise of the Soviets in Russia.

So we are trying to lay the groundwork for a form of organization that can endure what we anticipate will be the collapse of the United States.

Nothing like from a movie, by the way. All it takes for a collapse is a constitutional crisis.

If you think I'm being far-fetched, even Chuck Schumer now, he just said, well, we're not going to have a crisis until Trump defies the Supreme Court. And I believe Trump has already defied a federal judge. So we're not far from defiance of the Supreme Court.

And that will provoke a kind of crisis, which we're already in the American Civil War, by the way.

It's just, it hasn't gotten ugly yet.

And if you think it won't, I think you're in for a surprise.

Ray, I'll bring you up.

What's going on?

I think he disconnected.

PD What's going on?

Well, you brought me up, I guess.

If you don't mind, I have a few questions. Sure.

So first of all, one of them is kind of like maybe a theoretical question and maybe

speaks more to like, you you know I'm not very well-versed in

marcus linens literature stuff so I wanted to ask you first of all what distinguishes like

financial imperialism versus fascism and you kind of like touched upon like

oh it needs like you need to have a bolshevik movement something like that but i mean i kind of

feel like there's not a whole lot of distinction between like and i feel like you know obviously

we're in kind of a situation of, you know, financial capitalist imperialism, and that's kind of like what we're seeing played out, especially, you know, obviously not only the Trump administration, but other administrations prior. And then the other question I had was,

you were just touching upon, you know,

we need this militant left-wing revolution,

and that the police state can't stand upon,

you know, can't stand against the populace as a whole.

But obviously, like, you know, individuals.

So I think your question is a little misconstrued because it's not what I meant.

I was just talking about the,

what is legitimate authority and using police as an example.

For,

I mean,

like in the eyes of an average person.

Not that I believe that they're,

you know,

necessarily legitimate. But in any case um the it's not that i think we need a

left-wing revolution right now it's that i think we need the bare minimum of left-wing

politics that has the guts

to do two things.

One, break from the Democratic

Party and two,

maintain some kind of principle

of collective discipline

so that it doesn't divulge into a bunch of splits

and micro sectarianism and pettiness because this is the problem is that when it comes to

the Democratic Party everyone falls in line at the end you can can have all these opinions you want, but there is this

superstitious reverence of the Democrats as an objective power, where Hassan Piker can have an opinion,

Sam Cedar can have an opinion everyone can have an opinion

but at the end of the day the Democrats

are the objective thing and you fall in line

and the corruption is very

clear because what gives them

that objectivity is money

not only money but institutional power

through the media through the academic

institutions through the NGOs through big tech you know and so they have this

corrupt acknowledgement that when it comes to the Democrats we all fall in line we

don't be records we don't shit everything up we don't ruin it we fall in line but We don't be wreckers. We don't shit everything up. We don't ruin it. We fall in line.

But nobody thus far has had the guts to step out and say, let's commit to a new principle of politics and political authority. Let's build a new party. Let's build a new form of collective political

organization that we are loyal to and that we respect just as much as we before had respected

the Democrats, at least, you know, that we regard it as objective, we regard it as an authority,

and it's a principle worth fighting for and sacrificing our pettiness and our ego and all that kind of

stuff for, no one takes it seriously. They laugh.

I mean, our party, they

laugh at us. A lot of them, they laugh at us.

They don't take us seriously.

And if they, they wouldn't

take themselves seriously if they tried

anything similar. Because they don't

believe in the power of principles.

They just believe in the power of money.

And they believe in the power of institutional power.

But they don't have faith in the masses.

They don't have faith in what the people can actually do

if you actually deign

to have the courage to believe in them

and organize them.

All we want is for

there to be actual left-wing politics

that stands on business,

that commits to some kind of political principle,

and does not, in a corrupted, disgusting way, mouth off like Hassan Piker in one breath,

and then behind closed doors, you know, acquiesce to the Democrats, because let's be realistic, the Democrats are the real thing. Why are they the real thing? We live in an era of alternative media. We live in an era of alternative forms of communication and information. We live in an era where academic institutions and the media have lost the credibility they

once had.

Finally, we live in an era where, financially speaking, it's possible to raise money.

And, I mean, look, these organizations already get money like the PSL they got 12

million from Goldman Sachs Hassan Pikers a millionaire living in West Hollywood you're saying we

don't have the financial resources to build something separate we absolutely do it's just

that nobody has the courage it's a courage thing it's not a money thing it's just that nobody has the courage

it's a courage thing it's not a money

thing it's a power thing they're too

scared to be disinvited to

the Hollywood gala's they're too scared

to not have the opportunity to sit down

with aOC and sit down with

Bernie Sanders they're too scared to be smeared by the

corporate media and smeared by an attacked and gangstocked by the CIA and have bots on

social media run sustained campaigns to destroy your reputation. They're afraid and terrified of all those things. They're afraid of being banned and D platform from Twitch and other places. They're afraid of facing the scrutiny and the wrath of the state. So they're playing it easy because they're corrupt and they're sticking with the powers that be just because they're powerful.

And if we're Marxists, where does the power come from?

It comes from the bourgeoisie.

It comes from the billionaire bourgeoisie oligarchical class that funds the media, that funds the universities, that funds big tech, that funds the

Democratic Party itself, and these sugar datties, with their arbitrary opinions, with their own

arbitrary views, with their own arbitrary power, shape and control the content

of the brains and the minds

of 99.99999%

of Americans in this country

who call themselves leftists.

And that's just the truth.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, I...

Yeah, I kind of agree with you.

I disagreed a little bit with your assessment of the Democratic Party.

I mean, I see what you're saying about people falling in line with the Democratic Party,

like kind of thinking that, like, they're the only alternative, you know,

to the Republican Party, and they're the supposed leftist organization in this country.

But what I kind of criticize the Democratic Party for is their inability to rally.

Like, every time that they have a chance to, you know, stand up against, you know, right-wingism or whatever,

every time that they have a chance to, you know, stand on principle and, like, demonstrate that they are leftists, that they always fall apart over, you know, sectarianism and this and that. And this is kind of like the, you know know the revolving victim sort of theory

I guess you know the revolving villain

the issue has always

been the same

politics is power and it's ugly

and it's fucking brutal and it's

really violent even if it's not

physically violent it's very violent and even if it's not physically violent, it's very violent.

And what I mean by that is if you're going to do something, like actually have the balls to step out of the Democratic Party and really build a political authority that's separate from that, from scratch, scratch brand new that is a declaration of war

that is something toxic that is something brutal and we and and you know they ask why has

did you for so long indulge in culture war stuff do i think

culture war stuff is productive i don't but i can't help but notice how for some strange

reason for two decades leftists were being taught that it's toxic to be aggressive and it's toxic to be militant

and it's toxic to stand on business and that you should be soft and you should be like a flower

and you should be crying tears of compassion all the time and basically

be submissive and I don't under it. How do people not put two and two together? The qualities

you need and the character that you need to build alternative sources of political authority are character qualities

that are absolutely incompatible with the politically correct environments of university campuses

and these safe space bubbles where no one's feelings are ever getting hurt or anything.

It requires a degree of aggressive, you know, toxicity in the sense that it's a declaration of war.

And yes, in the process of building new political authorities, people's feelings are going to get hurt because they're going to be told the cold, hard, fucking truth, which is that, no, you are not a special snowflake.

No, you are not this perfect, virtuous person.

No, you actually have to do the work to get it done.

No, it's not just going to be handed to you.

No, not everyone's going to be perfect right out the outset.

You can't have a purity fetish.

These are the things you need to build political authority of any

kind, to build, not follow existing ones, but to build new ones, you know? And it just so happens to

be the fact that these are all the character qualities that liberal leftists have been brainwashed for decades into

regarding as right wing for all of these the the whole reason they try to

associate us with the right and

right wing all this nonsense

is because we're calling out the bullshit

we're calling out the bullshit of how

they have made the left

wing into a bunch of pussies

and somehow they've made being a pussy,

somehow that's left wing now to be a pussy.

Why is being a pussy left wing since when?

Was Joe Hill a pussy?

Was John Brown a pussy?

Was Robespierre a pussy?

I don't understand this were the fucking miners in kansas who were throwing dynamite at police pussies i don't think so not that i endorsed that yeah I mean, like the average person, you know, like they have a family and a career and stuff like that.

I don't advocate adventurism and violence and being crazy. I say follow the law.

I say don't be stupid.

That's what I say.

But at least have the principles,

at least have the dignity

to just have the current...

I mean, look,

it's a fucking illusion, all right?

We, our party, the American Communist Party, the heat and the pressure is on us.

Everyone we go near gets doxed and harassed and stalked and canceled and it gets tortured psychologically okay and gets swarmed but what

people don't realize is if if enough people just you don't even have to join our party just if enough

people come together about building new left-wing politics

and call their bluff, they can't fucking do that to us all. All they can do is corner and isolate

a small minority of us, which they're doing to us right now, primarily, to deter others and scare others.

But everyone together, if everyone does it, they can't fucking do that to everyone.

You think if, I mean, they fear that so much.

People don't understand how much they fear that.

They fear people having the courage

to be canceled. And they, people look at us and they go, I don't want nothing to do with that.

I don't want that to happen to me. But what they don't understand is that all it takes is a minimal threshold of people

doing it like we're doing it. And the whole fucking bluff is called. And they can't torture

you and they can't do all this shit that they're doing and they can't shut it down

and um and i look at hasan piker with his live concurrent views and all of his riches and wealth and

money and i look at all this millions of dollars and billionaires, Goldman Sachs,

you know, the PSL and all this kind of stuff. And I don't buy it. I don't buy that there's no

resources for this to just do it independently. I don't buy that. And look how much we're able to accomplish,

as poor as we are and with as few numbers as we have. Look at how much we are able to accomplish.

Imagine if Asan Piker woke up one day and had the balls to rebel against his Democrat masters. Maybe he'd lose half of his audience. Let's say he'd lose half.

But he would have the power to fundamentally

start a fucking

start a flame in this country that couldn't be put out.

To be honest, he would absolutely, we get close to having that power.

And look how small our numbers are and we are able to cause such a ruckus.

Imagine if other people started having the balls to do it

and everyone started doing it

yeah I mean that that's kind of my frustration with like

you know like the Bernie Sanders of the

of the of the Democrat Party and stuff like that is like if Bernie had been like

you know had the balls to fucking be independent and not not go along with the

democratic establishment like you know we may we may be in a very different situation right now but

i mean so okay i have one more question for you.

And that is, like, what is the difference between, you know,

Lenin's revolution and the Communist Party in Germany, you know,

like, why was Lenin successful versus the Communist Party in Germany who failed?

And what is the sign, you know, that we should be looking for to say that, like, you know, the critical point has been reached and, you know, the, the time for, you know, uh, you know, um, theorizing and, and talking as like past and it's time to then seize power or whatever, you know, what it, what would be the point at which...

It never, it doesn't ever work like that.

It always works as you build successful forms of dual power

that become more legitimate than the existing,

self-proclaimed legitimate authority of the state as far as the failure of the german uh communists you can blame a lot of it on the social democrats

in germany you know in it on the social Democrats in Germany. Yeah.

In Russia, the Social Democrats were nowhere near as strong as they were in Germany.

So Lenin was able to outmaneuver them easily because they were never that powerful to begin with.

But in Germany, they had such a footie. They were such gatekeepers.

They murdered and killed and persecuted.

They killed Rosa Luxembourg and Karl Liebitt.

You know?

And they murdered.

Those were the Hassan Pikers of the day, if I'm being ridiculous a little.

Those were the Bernie Sanders of the day, though.

They were the gatekeepers.

Anybody, anybody who deigned to have the courage to tell the truth about what was going on.

They killed them.

They massacred them.

They collaborated with the free cops. They collaborated with the freak ops.

They collaborated with fascists even.

And they suppressed the shit out of them.

And then once they were done, Hitler started gaining traction.

And then the Germans had, the German communists had

to realize to bypass

these gatekeepers,

we are going to have to tap

into non-traditional

industrial worker elements.

But it was too late by then.

It was too late. They, you know, it was too late by then. It was too late.

They, you know, it was too late.

They had to have reached the farmers.

They were already reaching a lot of the unemployed.

That was really their main base in the cities.

But the farmers as well, they had to have reached the peasants which you know there was

the social democratic orthodoxy is that they are

unimportant or they're less advanced or whatever

so they are to blame

100% the social democrats were to blame um it was only when the german

communists really wised up to their their strategic predicament because it was so confusing

because they're like our number one for long time, even they maintain the view that maybe the social Democrats will be a bulwark against fascism.

They didn't realize it until it was too late what the situation was, you know?

And that's a shame.

Yeah. Okay. Well,

thanks for, thank you.

I don't have anything else for you right now, but

I'm sure I'll be, you know, tuning into other streams in the future. So anyway. So, Kayla, I'm sure I'll be tuning into other streams

in the future. So anyway.

So Kayla, I'm going to invite you to co-host because there's

a lot of users I can't see. I think there's

it says six people are requesting, but I can only

see one. So I need someone

to co-host.

I'll bring Ross on. I need someone to co-host. I'll bring Ross on.

I need someone to co-host just to bring these people on that I cannot see.

Rambly is a troll.

I think it's mentally ill troll, but

I'll just bring them on so you guys can see.

Hello. Yeah. Yeah. I'll bring

rambling on just so you guys can see

like the model.

These are the...

How should I put it? These are the how should I put it

these are the

mentally ill mentally depraved

future black shirts

and I'll bring them on

just so you guys can see what I'm talking about

so we're talking about the need

to build left-wing politics

seriously, and this is what Rambly has to say.

Go ahead, Rambley, say what you have to say.

I would all...

Here's what I would like to say.

All right. The ACP collaborates with cops and has failed biology because he thinks women have two holes, not three.

So you said we collaborate with cops. What do you mean by that?

You have cops in your party. There's evidence for this. said we collaborate with cops. What do you mean by that?

You have cops in your party. There's evidence for this.

And you guys also, and the ACP also has a bunch of pedophiles, and we have evidence of this too,

with Scott Ritter, Tim Rousseau, being involved.

First of all, you're making a lot of different claims. So first of all, you said we have cops in our party.

Do you mean that in plural?

Do you mean that in plural?

Yes, I mean that in plural.

Okay, so besides the one gentleman who's in a town, a rural town of less than 7,000 people, who I did not even know was in the party, but actually proved to be an upstanding guy who's well respected in his community.

And by the way, he lives in a remote rural place where he's a community leader where there's still an ongoing discussion and debate.

Besides that one guy, can you name a single other cop in our party?

Jackson Hinkle. He is a Fed. Not only that.

No, no, no, hold on. Hold on. Let's go one by one.

So you said Jackson is a Fed.

Based on what do you say he's a Fed?

I mean, he complained when...

When Trump cut the CIA shit?

When?

When did he complain about that?

Can't

fucking remember. I can't die. So can you help us all

remember? Well, okay.

Let me...

Another thing is that...

No, not another thing. Why are you saying Jackson's a Fed?

Well, because he's part of the CIA.

There's proof of this, too. Where is the proof that he's part of the CIA. There's proof of this, too.

Where is the proof that he's part of the CIA?

Just like that his fucking tweets.

Where's the proof that he's part of the CIA?

The tweets.

The proof is in the pudding.

So you have no proof.

Okay.

So you have no proof.

You also said you named a few people

that have nothing to do with the ACP,

like Scott Ritter.

Why are you saying Scott Ritter do with the ACP, like Scott Ritter. Why are you saying

Scott Ritter's in the ACP?

Well, you all collaborated

with him, and he is a convicted

potify. I am the chairman. I am the chairman

of the American Communist Party.

When have I ever

interacted with Scott Ritter?

But you also have a

pedophile running around in your Discord server.

Who?

Name them.

Well, there's this... Name them. Hold let me let me see if i can find it yeah please find it

i'm so glad you're you're willing to be forthcoming yeah uh you actually believe these things it's incredible Yeah.

You actually believe these things. It's incredible.

But please, show me who in my Discord fits that description.

Let me see.

Which, by the way, is IGG.

But it wouldn't matter anyway because it would be just as bad.

Who in my Discord?

Please produce the evidence.

All right.

Where's it at?

Okay. I'm we're all waiting rambly we're all waiting for you to produce the evidence

oh i did where check

check the reply okay we'll check your replies. So, clicking the space.

I think I'll just click your profile to set up.

Go to your profile.

Go to your replies.

Okay.

This This is a guy named Voivodeen, who indeed said some creepy nonsense and was called out for it. I see no evidence this happened in my server at all, by the way.

Voie, voie, let's look them up.

There is no user in my server which is the i gg server there is no user that has this name in this server the only thing

the only thing is that their name is yellow where and our names are yellow in our server

how do we know this isn't some bullshit you fabricated where's the proof this even happened in our server. How do we know this isn't some bullshit you fabricated? Where's the proof this even

happened in my server? By the way, he was clearly banned for this because everyone was calling him out.

He was saying a minor was cute and he was saying, oh, I wasn't saying I was a track. It was still creepy

and it's not acceptable.

We don't talk, unlike Fido, by the way, who openly sells child pornography to minors, who you collaborate with.

But we don't accept this.

And where is the evidence this is in IGG?

And two, this person is not

in our server. This person is

clearly, they, first of all, clearly

they got banned quick enough

because they're not, okay, he left,

Rambly left. Incredible.

Yeah, he sound enough. Okay, let me hear amirio okay so that was code along there we go so that was code along okay now i understand codalong is a creepy guy from australia who makes

thousands of vaults all the time and it's, you know, joins our server and we always have to catch him and ban him. That's not my fault that there's a crazy guy who bothers us.

The notion that this person

is somehow a member of our community

and IGG is

fucking ridiculous.

But it's also, especially

retarded to somehow associate

the Communist Party with this, given that the

gentleman lives in Australia.

Cotelong lives in Australia.

And he's literally

like, he is like a fucking, there's a wanted poster up of him proverbially.

Like, we literally ban innocent people because we think it's his alt all the time.

Because he's always making alts joining the fucking server bothering us, being a fucking weirdo.

How is that even related to the party?

By the party has no discords at all.

Anyway, this clearly isn't tolerated in our server, and this person is not a member of our

community.

It's that simple.

We have the screenshots of Fido who you still work with Rambly.

Where did Rambly go?

What a coward.

They left.

I want everyone to understand something. Notice how they could not sustain or follow up on a single claim they made about us. Not one. And I gave them the opportunity to follow up on every single claim they were making about us. They said there are cops in our party. The Washington chapter

handed out free turkeys to families in need with a local PD. And that was something they immediately deleted and issued a self-criticism on because it doesn't reflect the message of our party. So therefore it was a mistake.

It was a mistake that they admitted was a mistake and corrected for.

Meanwhile, there is one guy with good standing in his community in a small, small rural town, who's some kind of deputy something, I don't know. And I did not even know about it until I was told.

And it's an ongoing discussion and debate, but we have a clear, now we have a very clear and unambiguous policy that no law enforcement are allowed in the party.

Look at how much I'm engaging with the accusations he made, though.

Look at how much I'm almost desperate for these people to accuse us of something to my face, to me directly.

So they can be shown how much every false claim they make about, every negative claim they make

about us is rooted in actual lies.

Lies that we, and it's so, people don't believe how much we're lied about.

They can't even believe it.

That's why we have to take it to court, by the way.

Because unless we defend ourselves legally,

people do not understand the astronomical lengths the feds go to to fabricate a false reality and no not one that has grains of truth

just a completely false reality he said scott ritter is in our party what are you even talking about

he said jackson is cia what i about. He said Jackson is CIA.

What, on what planet is Jackson CIA when he can't even come back to the U.S.?

When he's living in Moscow for nearly a year now.

And by the way, the Russian security services,

Chinese security services, Hezbollah, Hamas,

and others

I won't mention right now

and the Venezuelan state security services

somehow

they could not come to the correct determination but you on twitter have you have a thread on

twitter that proves it but that is out of their reach they don't they can't access twitter to see the

truth right they have no way of vetting him. You know better than them. Uh

Kayla guys do you guys see anyone else requesting because I don't

Yeah I'll bring someone up

Sure thanks

Doodle did

Go ahead Uh, doodle did...

Go ahead.

Hey, how you doing, man? Good, how are you?

I ain't got really a question about the party.

I got more a question about what your thoughts are

for the future.

I've been doing a lot of reading

about lethal, autonomous

weapons.

And it got me thinking,

if these advanced so good

in the next 30 years that... that look this isn't just like a pothead stoner

space this is confront the chairman all right i i was hoping it was at least tangentially related

to the party somehow we're not going to just talk about robots for no reason.

Please bring someone else up.

Okay. Hello Hello?

Yeah

Hey, I was interesting to have a question.

I've spoken to you before. I don't know if know if you remember i'm a long time supporter on patreon and youtube uh so thank you

yeah um yeah of course um so even though i have a disagreement or something it It's not in bed faith.

Here's my disagreement or question.

There seems to be a cope pervading in the entire party, and I think it stems essentially from your influence because there's no question

you are the you know short of a cult of personality you are the biggest influence on the party

by far that's not to draw away from the collective power of the party but here's the quote you have

continuously um cloaked a serious epistemic uncertainty about the nature of communism for a very long time and it seems to a lot of people to be a sophisticated

kind of approach to the question of what will communism looks like and correct me if i'm wrong but

the your response is consistently along the lines of it is impossible to know or we are not in the

business of prognostication we are not in the business of prognostication.

We are not in the business of looking into a crystal ball.

That's what Mark said.

Right.

And I think that Marx is not a god, right?

I mean, I respect Marx more than anyone. but the fact that he did not prognosticate is not a feature. It's a flaw. And I think it's a flaw that the Marxist tradition and all tendencies have worn.

I'll just. I'll just

I'll just tell you this.

We can go ahead and

create the Big Rock Candy Mountain

for all I care, right?

Okay.

So tell me how to

effectively...

But don't be hyperbolic here. Tell me how to how to but don't but don't be

hyperbolic here don't tell me

tell me how to effectively build power

and maybe I'll entertain the big rock

can't round but first I'll be how to

build power

how you're building power

hold on how you're building power is perfectly fine.

There's no, I have no criticism of that, but.

Thank you so much, brother.

I appreciate it then.

Because really, that's all that matters.

If you want to talk about me planning a society right now in a party with nearly less than a thousand

people right now i don't know what to tell you okay society of 300 million people i'm going to plan that okay I know that I'm known for for

being a big personality or whatever but to be honest I'm a little more

humble than that okay we have a program.

You can read it.

I don't know what else we could offer at this stage.

Rambley came back if you'd like them to finish.

Sure, let them, let them come back.

Because they were making specific accusations.

Go ahead, Rambley.

Do you want to follow up on the various lies you were telling?

You call them lies, but I posted an entire thread.

Oh, really? Where?

I'll link it again.

Where's the three?

In the reply, sir?

So you linked a, you link the username Code Along, who is permaband,

not just for this, but for many other things,

who is not a welcomed member of our community, and who has hundreds of alts.

And what? There's also pictures of Eddie and there's also rumors of you guys having a

agreement. We want Wanna talk about that?

What are you talking about?

In the discord,

Higley and

E. Grooming ring, question mark.

What are you taught? Where is this? Where can I look at this?

It's by a thread.

I'm looking at your latest replies right now.

Yeah.

I can't find anything.

You retweeted Trump Tower, and then there's a link that goes to this post is from, oh, this because I blocked the account.

Okay.

Oh, yeah, so that's why.

So let's say, let's see what this is.

This is just code along.

Why are you showing me code along?

There's more more just scroll down

where

what do you mean where

you linked a guy named

Liam

yeah

and all he is doing

is showing the code along

guy who's banned

what else have you shown that's it leum just shared the same thing here's another one

yeah this is it it's not just that but okay I'm looking

through your replies

that's the only thing

you posted

I also

why don't you read it out to me

because I cannot see it

so read out whatever you're talking about.

All right.

You didn't hear about the grooming ring?

The Hedgelian e-grooming ring?

Question mark?

Pepper emoji.

Exactly that. Pepper emoji. Exactly that.

And then... You're talking about the Higelian e-girl shit?

Yes.

What does that have to do with our party?

And who is...

What do you fucking talking about? What are you fucking talking about?

What are you even talking about?

Because there's photos of Eddie and Kyle with her.

With Nikki.

Yeah, I know who Nikki is.

But you're talking about the group,

the Hegelian E-Girl group that I was never in, that I had no oversight in, that I had nothing to do with.

To say nothing of the party, by the way, infrared had nothing to do with that.

But what are you accusing them of?

Because this is news to me. So what are you accusing them of because this is news to me so what are you accusing them of

first of all again it whether or not this is like fucked up. What is... What...

What is fucked up?

I'm not seeing.

I don't...

What are you linking?

I don't even know what you're accusing them of.

It's like you...

You already fucked up by saying this is somehow related to the party

but

I don't know

I don't even know what you're accusing them of because I can't

see it. What are you accusing

them of? Oh,

what the

the e-grooming ring?

Yeah, what what grooming ring? What are you talking about?

Oh. I think you like...

There we go, yeah. Why don't you act... Like, you said something pretty crazy there.

You should talk more about it and elaborate what you mean. Why don't you at like you said something pretty crazy there.

You should talk more about it and elaborate what you mean.

Oh, I am a lot.

What?

I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, this is the confront the chairman's face now.

So, so, I am, what, what is this grooming ring you're talking about?

Are you talking about Fido server where he grooms minors into the anti-ACP

cult? Because we have proof of that.

Okay. First of all, dude's not a fucking pedophile.

He's over 40 years old and he runs a server filled with a bunch of miners.

Okay, where's your evidence for this?

It's in Kyle's thread about Fido.

Look up Kyle Pettis, look up his name,

and look at his thread about Fido,

and you will find the evidence

that there's minors in that server

and that Fido sold

what he called himself child pornography

to minors and that

Fido also talked about how miners need

to explore their sexuality and a bunch of other

weird, creepy fucking things and he was

promoted to vet a server full of minors for the anti-ACP call now now that is proof of grooming

you're accusing the hegelian eagles of that i I want you to show me proof of what you're talking about.

Because, first of all, that has nothing to do with the party, not even infrared, but now

you're making this claim about them, which I have every reason to think is a lie, because look at your track record of lying about us.

So based on what proof?

Oh, it's so funny.

Yeah, didn't you guys support Trump?

We have the proof of that, too.

Why are you just went from like calling us Jeffrey Epstein to now saying that we supported Trump.

Don't you realize you made an extremely serious accusation that you're not just, you're just

not committed to following up on?

Don't you think it's all reckless to make such extremely serious accusations and not feel the need to like i don't know follow up on it a little

just a little bit i have followed up on it how i i I am I cutting you off by the way the floor is yours please explain

I'm looking at the thread you're talking about.

I'm not, what thread? Oh, Kyle's thread.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Right. so that's what receipts look like okay

just seats look like by the way

hold on let me...

Okay, no.

The Fido's arguing for sex ad,

which is objectively a good thing.

Let's go through the thread, and let's see.

I'm going to read Fido's comments, and we'll let everyone decide how innocent these comments are okay we'll go right there and i'll actually ask you if you think these are okay things to say what do you think about that go for it Let's do it.

So, going through, here he is.

Hold on, I gotta get this thread. I'm using the blue stacks to navigate, which is the issue right now.

They can want to scroll through okay you know what

I'll just do it on my browser

way quicker

okay All right, here's his thread.

All right, let's look through these, okay?

So here's what Fido says.

Teenage girls will be exposed to sexuality.

Life finds a way.

Now this is in reference to him selling pornographic

materials to minors. Do you approve of that?

And he said in his defense,

he goes, you're going

full moralist and you want to ban

sex.

What do you think of that?

Do you think it's wrong to be full moralist in that context?

All right, let me see what you're talking about.

He was being called out for selling porn to teenagers, and he says, I have nothing to defend against a bunch of prudes.

Yeah, but what was the porn?

Was it a Playboy magazine?

No, it was

a bookshop

he stocked and owned

which he sold

what he called

child pornography to minors.

Oh, I didn't know they owned barns in no he owned his own small business bookshop okay Yeah, but can you please elaborate?

What was the pornography?

Ask Fido.

Ask him. He's the one who sold it and

identified it as that.

We also have evidence in that threat of minors

making sexual comments and engaging in sexual discussions.

Look at this.

Fido goes, young girls should be allowed to explore their sexuality, you Islamic mullah.

You agree with that comment?

Yeah, 100%.

Do you think it's appropriate for a man who's over 40 and a server full of minors to make such comments?

Talking about minors exploring their sexuality? Is that okay to you?

Yeah. talking about minors exploring their sexuality. Is that okay to you? It's correct.

It should be able to do that.

Why is that your business whatsoever?

Like, why would you say that

why would it be on you to say

that or make that comment

okay why is it your business

the police minors

to police a man

who's over 40 years old

making creepy

fucking comments about little girls

in a fucking server full of

minors that he grooms into his cult

yeah I'm going to police that

over 40 year old man

making that disgusting creepy weird

comments of course I will okay what man making that disgusting, creepy, weird comments? Of course

I will.

Okay,

what are the creepy comments?

I just named some to you,

but I'll name you even more.

Okay?

Someone told Fido, stop selling pornography to kids, you weirdo.

And he replied by saying, no, comma, I don't think I will.

What do you think?

Is that the response of an innocent or a guilty person?

Just show me where he says that.

It's in the thread.

It's in Kyle's thread, which you can find in his profile.

It's pinned on his profile. That specific one I just told you about is pinned on his profile.

Okay. I'm working.

Yeah.

Okay.

So you see it now.

And what's your excuse for this?

Do you accept this?

Do you find this okay?

I'm not finding it.

Okay.

Well, it's pinned on his profile.

So you must be pretending.

No, I'm not...

It's among the first four images in the first post.

And it's the photo of that guy with a beard that painting of a guy with a beard

it's right there oh come on

he was really fucking joking man

okay this is a man

who's over 40 years old, who admitted

to owning and stalking pornography

in a comic book shop that was sold

to children, and also stalking

manga that depicted

child pornography that he owned

and stocked and also sold to children.

He's over 40 years old and he helps run a Discord server full of minors that is dedicated to extremism.

It's an anti-ACP cult.

What is funny about this joke he made, given that context?

Can you tell me?

I think what he's saying is that you guys are being insanely stupid and irrational.

We're being irrational, really? Yes. Yes. being insanely stupid and irrational.

We're being irrational, really?

Yes.

You just accused us of running a grooming ring and provided no evidence.

You said there were pedophiles in the party because of Scott Ritter, but Scott Ritter is not in the party.

You said Jackson was CIA because

look at his tweets, the proof is in the pudding.

Every single claim you've

made doesn't even have a

smidgen of evidence to back it up

that's grounded in reality. I just

gave you smoking

gun evidence that this guy's at minimum

a fucking cr-oh

I'm not interrupting you

I'm allowing everyone to see

who you people are who you people are

go ahead the Lord is yours show us the opposition show us what our haters look like and our

detractors are please you're a perfect representative

i believe that baristas are proletarian.

But you just made a lot of crazy claims about us, and now you want to talk about

baristas. Why don't you actually follow up on the things you accused us of? Unless you want to walk them back and admit you were lying

or at least you were fooled by others who lied to you you know i think i might be familiar with that

that server what server the one five oh zero

that's where we have seats. Okay, produce them. Oh. okay now I can finally see the the Hegelian thing

in your first replies

which was 11 minutes ago so now I can see it

so this was in our server

and

Nikki did not get along with a lot of people

in our community

which goes to show

she wasn't even in the party by the way

so there was a lot of

back and forth

so here's a Higelian

E-girl counsel

a group chat I was

never in and had nothing to do with

so let's see

they're talking about O-F, but also theory.

I don't fucking know what that is.

Now there's someone who, yes, there's someone here who says, when I turn 18, they'd get on that. Of course

that's disgusting. Of course, that was so disgusting

that when someone, people in our community found out about it

is what you're showing here. They fucking made a fucking big

outrage over it and rightly so but what do we have to do with that this is a clearly an unmoderated reckless group chat where is the complicity that somehow this has something to do with us?

And where is Nikki here?

Where is Nikki?

Where is Nikki in this screenshot?

Nicky's not even here.

So Nikki's in some random Twitter group chat, apparently, and it's reckless and unmoderated very clearly.

And so she's getting blamed.

Where's the proof she's responsible? I don't know. But she's also not even a member of the party. And never was. And infrared had no affiliation with Higelian e-girl council or whatever.

And now you're showing a photo with me standing next to Nikki.

Absolutely.

Yes, I met Nikki.

I know who Nikki is.

And I met her.

But what is this proof?

What is this?

You made a crazy fucking claim about the American

Communist Party.

And all you have to show for

is our own

community in Discord

condemning a

Twitter group chat

that has

not only has nothing to do with the party,

but has nothing to do with infrared.

So much so that the actual infrared

community, they're the ones

calling it out and condemning

what's going on there.

You're also talking by Jackson Hinkle's associating with Andrew and Tristan.

No, no, no, no, don't run away from this.

Don't run away from this.

All known pedophiles, by the way?

And Andrew Tate, Andrew and Tristan being sex

traffickers

got a lot of

Jackson Jackson is affiliated with who

the Tate brothers

and Sneco

but you're affiliated

with Fido

he's innocent just because

Fido is less famous

he's innocent make him less innocent

no he's innocent

Fido is absolutely not

innocent because he was trafficking

porn to minors.

That's not innocent.

Second of all,

do you think Hassan Piker

should be canceled

in the same way as the Tates?

Yes or no?

Is affiliation with Hassan Piker

just as much as damning as with the Tates?

What did Hassan do?

Yes or no?

No, no.

Hassan Piker visited a brothel in Germany called Artemis that was rated for human trafficking.

So Hassan may have well had been a John.

Okay, let me...

Who actually victimized victims of human trafficking themselves.

So if you're accusing Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate, what they stand accused of is their participation in the sex trade is through pornography, right? Fido sold pornography to minors and Hassan Piker visited a

brothel in Germany rated

for human trafficking.

I'm too far as

We will

absolutely

we will absolutely

raise hell about Jackson

the minute you

apply the same standard, not only the same standard,

1% of the standard,

you expect to apply to Jackson to yourself.

Then we can talk.

All right. We're not going to talk to a hypocrite

about Jackson making a positive

tweet praising the Tate's

foreign policy views.

When you guys

have no problem being

led by a guy who visited Artemis and affiliating with Fido, who is actually not only participates in the sex trade, but is a petto.

No, he's not. He's not a fucking pedophile

you

oh is he an

a bebo file or whatever you guys say

he's talking about fucking minors

okay

he's talking about minors

minors.

Miners.

That's what he's, and he's grooming them.

He's a creep.

He's over 40 years old, and he claimed himself he's selling child pornography.

Okay.

That was his own words.

Where did he admit this?

Twice.

The pinned thing?

Yeah?

And where he says, he, that, yeah, he's talking about CP, these m these manga he's selling, where they're depicting children explicitly.

Okay.

Well, I agree a lot of anime is bad for doing that.

But, to be honest,

there's more than just

that stealth in anime,

especially in the manga.

Chainsawman.

Nobody gives a fuck about anime.

Fido is admitting to selling very specific types of manga to minors.

Hey, what kind of manga?

One that to pick children explicitly, it's called, it's hentai.

It's porn.

Oh, whoa.

Yeah, he stocked that

and sold that to miners at his

bookstore that he owned.

Provide proof, please?

The proof is in his thread.

It's in Kyle's thread. he left he left he left he actually just left he actually just left He left. He left.

He actually just left.

All right, we're going to bring up this guy, Applejack.

Go ahead. go ahead hello first and foremost i want to uh bring up that i think we have some mutual friends um hoss uh with the jackson hinkle and one would i do consider a friend that i've met here um

but i do i have some questions that i wanted to ask about the American Communist Party.

I'm not 100% full on with like a third party movement.

I think the system's too corrupt.

But I do want to ask one thing.

Where it comes to the Communist Party, are there motivations to try to push things like the members to learn self-sufficiency,

like learning how to grow, how to provide food, how to farm,

how to actually be one where we can step away from things like fiat currency

look if you read our

program we have a whole thing

about acp.us slash program

about

transforming the financial system

as we know it

regarding beyond fiat currency system as we know it.

Regarding beyond fiat currency, you know, there are many, many interesting things.

But we're not going to prescribe a specific replacement, but we do think that, you know, for example,

BRICS countries have this idea of currency that is backed by resources, wealth and mineral resources,

and for example,

and it's a blockchain currency.

So this kind of stuff is the future,

and it's what we would be looking at,

as far as beyond fiat. I'm not a little while kind of

i do like that uh that response i'm a journalist i don't follow in with parties

i have a i have a huge respect for uh jackson hinkle and we've had some

conversation because i feel like he was an invaluable

source with the whole situation with

the Ukraine and Russia

but I

I just I have some ways that I want to look at

things and I do have a large

community of people especially people that at things and I do have a large community

of people, especially

people that are from my

black background from

my black community that look

at all these types of situations

and they're disillusioned

by everything that's going on.

The way I look at things is I think that electoral politics cannot work currently because I believe that the system is too

destroyed. It's too much of a virus. It's like if you're walking with a person who's sick and you continue to stay around that person, you're going to get sick. Any politician that comes into this system is eventually going to become corrupted even if they're not corrupt when they enter. So what type of, safes do you think that the ACP can actually have that would stop itself?

Yeah, our political strategy as far as electoralism is, first of all all we need to build a strong foundation of political

authority for our party where the loyalty is to the party and there's a foundation to keep that in check

right then the next step is very local politics, extremely local politics.

And if we ever were to get a point, get to a point of getting someone in Congress or the Senate, you know, very unlikely, by the way.

There would have already been built up a very strong foundation of political authority

that is rooted in the party.

I mean, our party is such that you are loyal to the party as the principal political authority you it's not like aOC who was in

ds a and she was in this and that and everything and no no no you're in the communist party and

that's who you're accountable to. That's everything hinges on that.

Would you say it's more like a tea party type thing where everybody's a lockstep?

Tea party was kind of like a movement within the Republican Party.

We're trying to build a party, you know?

No, I I understand that. When I ask

about like Tea Party, I mean more like

okay, so

with like, we'll say

the squad or the progressives or whatever

they wanted to call themselves would they had a chance

to lead to withhold the vote for nancy pelosi unless they got a four vote who's running let's say

we got someone in congress right their whole career their whole reputation everything

would be built up by the party everything hinges they are absolutely dependent on the party

they're funding their campaign everything it's all dependent on the party.

The whole thing, the whole thing that makes them popular in their district or whatever, it's all led by the party.

So if they betray us, once they get into power, the whole fucking thing comes crashing down.

The same way we get them in, we'll get them out.

If we had AOC who was in the ACP and we got her in power and she fucking pulled the shit she did,

we would have been the deciding factor of her getting elected in her own district in the first place from the beginning because that's how it works already is the decisive factor we want to create an

organization effective enough to get people to win one day, right?

Of course.

So if you betray the party in favor of the lobbyist or the system, whatever, this is all

hypothetical, by the way, because we're nowhere there.

The same way

we put you in

but you get put out

you know

you get taken out

not not like

taken out like

you know

like mafia

I mean like

you get removed

you don't get

the backing of the party

you don't get

helped in the next election

you're on your own.

And, you know,

the same way we organized to

bring you up, we organized to bring you down.

We reveal the truth about who you are.

Have someone

replace you, you know?

Okay, the last question that I want to ask has to do

with DSA funding

I'm sorry not DSA

ACP funding

yeah um

is this the idea of

something that the complete

grassroots movement

I act

this because I have

a crew and we do a lot of mutual

aid and I want to know

whether or not if let's say

I get this group that wants

to actually start trying to put in for funding for the acp

is that same funding would also be used to try to help mutual aid like say what communism

in my idea of what communism is which is helping your neighbor you know yeah we

we do community service and it's a big part of our party activity so we don't call it mutual aid

primarily because we don't get anything in return right we're not

getting aided ourselves but we so we call it a community service it's pretty much you know we

just call it something different but um that's something i should think about thank you yeah

keep going um right now the party has a strategy to finance itself through like social entrepreneurship, you know, more or less, creation of cooperative business enterprises that serve as a headquarters and an ability to fund party operations full-time.

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A lot is in the works, but it's not going to be like an

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Thank you so much. Yeah.

Like you said, we don't, we don't ask for anything in return

and uh i'm seeing you from the guy from the from the sidelines i learned about you from

from jackson jackson and i've had had a couple of conversations.

I consider him a friend.

I really like what you're doing over here.

I appreciate you for having me on.

Thank you so much.

I appreciate you.

Really great.

See you later, man. Good night. night all right let's bring on maybe two more people

so Kayla or Ross if you guys want to choose someone

okay Jeremy what's going on

all right

hath thank you

I have listened to some of your longer extended debates and discussions about philosophy and history. And I do find you a serious thinker

and philosopher

however I think that

the the geopolitics

and the deep politics behind

your party and

your movement here are

built on

some kind of sand or some kind of

destabilized fraud of some sort.

Because it's clear Hinkle is a Fed, but he's some kind of

some kind of Fed of the SVR or

of whatever, whatever sort of strategic Mosquitovka

officer Dugan is, right? And I mean, and it's in this area that the, that the, your geopolitical foundation is so problematic that I think you need to rethink the whole thing. Because you, you might tell you something. Before Jackson and I ever met a single Russian, single Russian, to say nothing of going to Russia or anything.

We were in 2021. We were at a cigar lounge. He had a notebook taking notes. And we were talking about

Russia, multipolarity, Alexander Dugan,

Putin's role,

before the SMO.

Before I even met Jackson,

I was talking about Putin.

I was talking about Russia.

I was talking about Dugan. When the SMO happened, I did not even blink to show my solidarity and support to Russia. I didn't even blink. Before SMO, even in the weeks leading up, our pro-Russian orientation and our geopolitical outlook has nothing to do with any powers in Russia that we

I mean Russia is a power

in the sense of the power of Eurasia

and so on but no institutions

in Russia no Svr

no FSB no nothing

had anything to do with corrupt

I wasn't saying that has.

I wasn't calling

I'm just telling you

our position from

day one has been

absolutely sovereign,

absolutely made

on the basis of a

specific and unique

philosophical outlook

and worldview.

And we we came to russia russia did not come to us second of all you may not believe me and that's okay because i know how it looks.

He lives in Moscow and he's so pro-Russian.

You're arguing against a straw man though.

If you want to argue against a straw man, that's fine. In Jackson's case, I can personally vouch and attest to you.

Nobody.

Nobody is fucking giving him orders or showing him how to fucking do a thing. There's no SVR. There's no FSB. He is himself. He is himself

sharing his view. Maybe he's being watched absolutely i wouldn't doubt it of course he's

being watched of course and they watch everyone he's an american but he is just he's being left alone.

That much I can tell you.

There's no,

there's no Russian security handler

instructing him, telling him what to do nothing.

By the way, they wouldn't because jackson he goes to lebanon to nisrallah's funeral he interviews hamas he has an extremely aggressive anti-zionist

position and although russia the r state, is very sympathetic with Palestinians, and they're friendly with the resistance. They do not go that far, my friend. So this is proof Jackson has a very independent position.

I was not denying any of that.

My original point is that the nature of your geopolitical

allegiances and commitments are shaky at best and are based on deceptive geopolitics at worst. So you misunderstood me.

I wasn't saying that that you and or Jackson had been bought off or influenced in order to become creating your alliance with this Duganist Russian

perspective?

No, my point is that you can be an asset via narrative warfare

in many ways, right?

And so the part of the problem here

is that it's very, very obvious

that Putin

and Netanyahu have a very deep geopolitical alliance.

And then this goes then to the actual commitments of both you and Jackson in terms of Hamas and the access of resistance

as if this is not some

kind of Netanyahu

operation of some sort.

It's not a coincidence that Netanyahu

made sure that Hamas

was backed for years

I

I agree

listen

what you're

saying

is speculation

and I disagree

but

it's still

speculation

my view

is that

maybe Russia

prefers

Netanyahu to the alternative

who are more close with the EU

maybe

but

look

Putin and Netanyahu are not geopolitical allies.

Everyone knows Israel serves the United States.

Russia, of course, will exploit any opportunity it can, any riffs in the enemy, anything, you know.

This, you also observe this with some of the, um, European, uh, right populace.

Who are very much, you know, there's still NATO and there's still this or not, but no, I don't think,

I think you're exaggerating the connection, basically. I also think you're underestimating the

extent to which Russia has indeed infiltrated the Zionist entity itself, since Soviet times.

The reverse is the reverse true? but at the very least that infiltration is there

but let's just say you were right about Putin i don't agree you are let's pretend you were

our geopolitical analysis is such that the very nature of Russian

polarity and the Russian state itself and the sovereignty of the Russian state is inversely

proportional to the ties the Russian Federation may currently still maintain with Israel.

A cursory glance at how the pendulum swings.

The more pro-West Russia is, the more oriented and aligned with the West, the more it's pro-Israel.

Also, the reverse is true, right?

So that is how, that is the tug of war at hand.

The more the forces of Russian polarity and sovereignty and Eurasianism prevail, the less Russia has any kind of

connection with Israel. The more pro-Western elements prevail, the more there will be a connection

with Israel. And that is the nature of

Russian geopolitics in the Middle East

and the Israel-Palestine conflict.

I think that this is part of

the problem here.

It is in terms of the actual

nature of the depth of your geopolitical understanding.

And this is, we bumped heads a little bit maybe a year ago around deep politics in relationship to Zionism and the

relationship of Zionism

to the United States

and this whole question of

is Israel a

tool of the American

Empire or is it the

you know tail wagging the dog or all of that?

But the main problem here, I think, is I think you really don't understand the deep geopolitics of the Soviet Union in relationship to Israel and how the Soviet Union has always used Israel as a tool in many ways

in relationship to its war against the United States. And you may celebrate that.

And because I don't, I don that. I don't agree.

Because if you're talking about the extent to which the KGB had infiltrated Israel, they had

infiltrated European countries as well. They had infiltrated other U.S. allies.

And the reverse is true as well, by the way. And even the JFK files revealed that, that the CIA had guys infiltrating Russia through Israel. So the closest Israel ever got to getting threatened was in the 73 war, thanks to the USSR, and its preparations and how much it supplied Syria.

And that war was primarily a done deal because of Egypt betraying the forces of the USSR and Syria and the, you know, the Arab cause.

That was what saved Israel, basically.

Sadat's betrayal.

The Russians wanted to kill Sadat for that.

By the way, they saw him as a huge traitor.

Like a waste, he wasted everyone's money, everything.

I wasted all the resources and help and assistance.

Russian geopolitics and the Middle East, Soviet geopolitics, was squarely

based in support for the

Arab cause.

I mean, that is just completely self-evident.

That's not true. I mean, that is just completely self-evident. That's not true.

I mean, it's very clear that from the before Israel was created, the Soviet intelligence had decided to use their assets, their agents, like including Kim Filby, on behalf of the most militant of the

Zionist terrorists, the ones who blew up the King David Hotel bombing.

No, no, no. The exact opposite is true.

The exact opposite is true.

The agents of the Soviet Union, that was the Mapam, Mapam faction.

These were the kind of leftists who were very much against the Ergun and others.

And yes, the KGB infiltrated them.

And there was a lot of intrigue going on, and conflict between

great powers you would expect. But there was also Zionist infiltration of the Eastern

bloc, specifically in Czechoslovakiavakia, where they were shipping

arms to Israel in 48,

without the knowledge of

Stalin, without the knowledge

of the authorities. When Stalin found out,

the Slanksy, Slankski,

or whatever trial began,

and the Zionists were executed for conspiring to steal the arms and um

the rest is history the soviet union agreed to the partition plan proposed at the UN because it was already the design of the British and the Americans, the other two great powers. And the Soviets wanted a seat at the table. That's how they saw it.

There was no clearly well-defined Arab nationalist cause at that point.

Was it a mistake, of course, but it's not evidence that they were infiltrated or that they were pro-Zionist.

I wouldn't call it pro-Zionist because this is just about realist

geopolitics in many ways.

And what I was actually referring to was...

You are looking at a lot of the ways in which Soviet geopolitics has never been based in one-sided commitment to the destruction of the enemy, even with respect to the United States.

And NATO, it was not the case.

So for it not to be the case for the Soviets' adversaries in the Middle East, which was Israel, is obvious.

The Middle East was of much less importance to the Soviets than, you know, Europe and the United States, which is the primary...

Until recently, which is where you then really begin to see this

Well, no, recently the Russian involvement in the Middle East is because of the legacy of the Soviet.

They're just now rekindling the foothold they had in the region

in Syria, with the bases they had

in Syria. Which is why

you see Israel openly calling

for Russia to be brought further

back into Syria

in order to weaken the Syrian

state. They're working hand in hand with the Israelis to try to weaken the Syrian state now that it's out of Russian hands. What you're neglecting is that that's only because since Trump got elected, there are a lot of pro-Western orientations now in the Russian politics and in the Russian state.

And yes, that has had consequences for Israel-Russia relations as well.

It's literally directly proportional, though, to the United States.

And then second of all, I think another thing you're missing is that when it comes to actual military ties and relationships, Russia maintains a degree of plausible

deniability but who are they signing

direct

you know

treaties and defense

partnerships with it's Iran

who are they giving the

S-300s, S-400s?

Yeah, but you know that the Iranians actually

had accused the Russians

of supplying the Israelis

backdoor

cyber codes

to the Tor M1s

15 years ago.

And these are the ones that then

were used to shoot

down the Ukrainian airliner

after Trump had General Soleimani

assassinated.

There is a huge...

Iran is itself heavily infiltrated

by the CIA and these elements

do everything they can. No, this is Russian

Israeli conduits.

This is not a to do with the CIA.

Absolutely, it does because the CIA and the MI6 are constantly at work within

Iran to spread anti-Russian sentiment.

And this is probably one of the forms that had taken that accusation.

The reformist factions within Iran are anti-Russian.

And Iran has always been on the fence,

Cold War-wise, since 79,

because they had the slogan,

neither East nor West.

So it was a tug of war,

and the West always, always, always

was trying to make sure that Iran would never, ever, ever go toward a more eastern orientation, more toward the Soviets and the Warsaw Pact.

The Soviets themselves didn't even have the willpower and the initiative.

You know, it was Gorbachev

by that time. But

in any case,

Iran is a battleground

itself between the great powers.

Iran itself is not yet

a great power.

But, and you notice, though, that we just had a repetition of Trump, Putin, Helsinki, 2018.

That time, Trump emerges from a room where he keeps out American officials really from

observing what happens

and Trump emerges almost looking

like a slave physically

to Putin. I don't...

I mean, that's... It's irrelevant.

Iran and Russia have just signed a mutual

defense treaty, you know? know i mean that is not

is russia willing to go to war with israel no no it's not but it's clear the main question

is russia willing to supply israel backdoor codes no to the weapons that they supply the Iranians like they have before very likely.

The thing you are alleging that Russia did happened 15 years ago, that you're alleging. You just have to look at overtime since the dissolution of the USSR. Since the dissolution of the

USSR, Russia rekindled its diplomatic relations with the Zionist entity. Everything was

cozy and fine. There's 2 million Russian speakers today because of that. But look at the orientation of the history of the Russian Federation.

Putin rises to power. It's becoming markedly more against the West. There's constant attempts,

joining NATO, becoming assimilated under the U.S.- led world. It's all failing. Medvedev is the high point of this kind of ass-kissing, you know, doesn't work out, you know. Russia's still under siege. So the nationalistic and the hard line and the forces of sovereignty within the Russian Federation

exert a tremendous amount of pressure upon the center,

you know, especially in the aftermath of the Maidon coup in Ukraine.

So this whole trajectory is directly proportional of Russia becoming more sovereign, more

independent of the West, and more aggressive against the West directly coincides with the extent

to which Russia aligns with the anti-Zionist forces and the extent to which Zionist forces

within Russia have their position severely weakened.

So I'm not denying that it's a battle. It has been a battle. The Soviet Union collapsed. 91. That happened.

All sorts of pro-Western garbage infiltrated russia and still has but look at the

what is russian polarity russian polarity has an orientation and it has a direction that direction

is markedly in the direction of anti-Zionism and solidarity

with the forces of multipolarity everywhere, including the regional...

That is a fraud that's mainly in relationship to the usual main enemy, which you're right,

of course, after

the Soviet Union went away,

then the Harvard boys

looted and pillaged,

tried to neoliberalize,

turned it into a gangster economy.

It became a gangster economy.

Then Putin and the KGB Siliviki reemerged, stood the Russian deep state back on its feet,

and it's very obvious that there is some kind of Russian deep state continuity, at least in some kind of function

with the Soviet security state. That's why

Putin is surrounded by KGB officers.

That's why someone like Dugin is not

just a philosopher. The KGB guys are not big

fans of Israel. Just letting you know.

I'm not saying they're big fans.

You keep on saying as if I'm saying

they're pro-Zionists. No.

That the entire Zionist

project was a tool

of Soviet deep geopolitics. and I was going to point out that that Kim

Philby this is Kim philby Kim philby in the Balfourdesol in the Balfour

declaration which the Soviets themselves published and exposed it otherwise wouldn't have.

Sykes-Piccoe, I mean they exposed that.

I don't know if they exposed the Belfort Declaration.

But they, look, Sovietism was anti-Zionist from the start.

Zionism was already in full swing

before the Soviet Union even took forum.

Did the Soviet state have agents and infiltrators

everywhere in the world? Absolutely they did.

Why shouldn't they have?

It doesn't mean they were

it doesn't mean they supported

the things they were infiltrating.

It just means they were...

You're arguing against

a straw man. I didn't say they were supporting

it ideologically

but they tasked Kim Philby

who was one of their

most important top

western moles to

actually facilitate

the King David Hotel bombing

against the British. It makes

total sense, obviously. There's the proof

is speculation. No, no.

This is in the Matroken. This is in the

Matroken archives.

And it shows that Kim Filby

was used

as a counterintelligence ploy against the British and pointed the finger over to Lebanon right as they knew that the Urgoon and the Stern gang were about to bomb the King David

Hotel. I don't know what archives you're talking about.

I don't know what proof. What's the proof?

Soviets were behind this.

Bombing. King David Hotel

bombing. I didn't say they were behind the

bombing. I'm saying that they tasked one of their most important

high-level Western moles

to facilitate the bombing.

I don't, yeah, that's

very vague. I don't know what that means.

It means that

Philby, who was

he was a Soviet mole, right?

He wasn't a sort of, he wasn't

working for the West

after he became a Soviet spy, right?

Look, it's all so vague and ambiguous.

It's not ambiguous.

It's extremely ambiguous. It's not ambiguous. It's extremely

ambiguous. This is not enough to

provide smoking on evidence for the claim

that they were somehow creating

the Zionist project to further their...

I don't... It just...

It doesn't line up with the facts.

I'm telling you, these are the facts, and this is the deep geopolitical.

This is usually where Marxists tend to get into problems is because of the materialistic view of politics.

We don't need to talk about philosophy.

Okay, all right, fine.

This claim on the merits of it is not factually coherent or credible or substantial enough to justify the claim,

the overall more broader claim you're making about Soviet-Israel relations?

All right. I don't want to take up all the time,

but can we talk a little bit about current politics

and what multipolarism really is

and the actual Russian

Israeli relationship and

why Trump is being

tasked to divide the

United States from Europe

to soften up Europe and to

create and that

multipolarism is not some kind of

actual distributed. It's too much

speculation is the issue

and we don't want to just

talk about speculation.

So

all right

have you met

just the last question

yes i have on multiple occasions yes

do you do you know if he

if he because his father was

um uh g r u

and there is

a strategic

Maskyrovka

cell that used to

be called

GUSM

then became

a GTK

and then

Fostek

and it's pretty

clear that

Duggen is not just If you pretty clear that Dugan is not just...

If you want to know Dugan's thoughts, he's very open about them. He doesn't hide anything.

I'm not interested. I know his thoughts. And part of his thoughts are about helping create chaos,

both in the

Middle East and in the United States

on behalf of softening

up the world towards

you want to know what the chaos means

read political platonism he has a chapter on it

and it's about logos and chaos.

Chaos is not disorder and disarray for doing it.

Right, it's order out of chaos.

It's very Masonic, actually.

No, it's not.

Chaos has nothing to do with disorder.

It has nothing to do with frenzied, you know, wilderness.

You know that Dugan has worked with Avigdor Eskin.

Avigdor Eskin, who is a major third temple terrorist,

basically.

I don't know that.

Listen,

Dugan has had dialogue

with a lot of different people

over the course of his life.

Not dialogue.

They are partners.

They are,

they are intelligence partners of some sort. This is what I'm saying.

Okay. Am I intelligence partners? Am I intelligence partners with Duvian?

Avigdor Eskin. Am I, am I intelligent partners with Duvian? No, I don't think so.

So what's the threshold that's necessary from going to dialogue to being an intelligence partner?

Well, when you actually come from a family of Soviet intelligence. That's a likely

indicator when

you pursue, for example, I

would have met Dugan, too, if I'd

taken up the invitation to go to the

New Horizons conference.

So we do know that this is,

you know, that the cultivation of intelligence assets is not...

It's too much speculation. Dugan is a philosopher. He's a philosopher.

He's also a strategic Moskyovka officer of some sort.

That's why he interface.

That's why you have interfaced with him.

That's why I would have interfaced with him.

That's why Jackson Hinkle...

So you think he's manipulating us?

He's...

Yeah, he's manipulating you. He's He's manipulating you.

He's manipulating the whole world

into supporting

multipolarism,

which is not some kind of decolonialization.

I'm going to need to trust

that my appraisal of Dugan's

writings is very much on an independent basis and predates my

meeting of Dugan on a personal level. I think you are reading too much into things. Doogan is not

reading too much into things Dugan is not

um

your

your very

misunderstanding of what he means

by chaos is enough

read political platonism

I'm telling you what I heard him say to Dimitri Symes during the transition from Biden to Trump. He basically says if we don't get what we need in Ukraine, which is total political control, then we have sort of certain sticks that we can deploy in the Middle East, which includes creating chaos in the Middle East. And then we did see the Iranians, the Israelis, and the Russians apparently working not necessarily in conjunction, but parallel fashion, in trying to weaken the Syrian nation.

You know what your problem is? Your problem is that you see it primarily as like Israel is the center, and that's it, when in reality it's a battleground between Russia and America

primarily so the Syria it's not about Israel necessarily it's about Syria is a EU

project right now EU and NATO won in Syria

and if Netanyahu's

rivals were in power in Israel

they'd be fully on board

it's just that Netanyahu

represents this

not pro russian

but definitely more pro-American

versus EU

um

and then

Netanyahu himself

is this kind of

uh demagogue

within Israel

not necessarily like Trump but you know demagogue within Israel.

Not necessarily like Trump, but, you know, it's... He is a fanatical Zionist extremist who thinks that the NATO consensus is holding him back.

So he's a kind of crazy guy.

And for that reason, they are pursuing a strategy that is more kind of more hostile to the Syrian state right now, despite the fact that EU just gave him a bunch of aid and assistance.

That was always the plan of Netanyahu. That's why he pursued the clean break paper in 1996 when he first came in, and he got all the extreme neocons

to ride it up for him and it called

specifically for regime change in Iraq

but specifically for

a rollback destabilization

war of Syria

not a regime change and with

the main focus on getting rid of their weapons of mass destruction, chemical weapons deterrent that they could use to push back against Israel if they ever got into it. And basically, the United States and Russia actually helped Netanyahu

fulfill that in Syria.

Well, well, look, Syria,

I don't, that's just, no.

Syria, uh, Israel had always

wanted to carve up and destroy and destabilized Syria.

They got what they wanted.

They're using, you know, it's not that they're trying to weaken Jolani.

It's that they are trying to carve up Syria and break it apart and make sure it could never be a unified state again because in 73 they really gave him

bloody nose it's just the truth true that's that we agree on that but uh but i guess my last

point would be that net yahoo is not really pro-american he i I mean, it was even on the...

I'll tell you what it is, all right? And then that we got to move on.

This is...

He architected 9-11. We all have speculation.

I'll tell you my speculation.

Let me give you my speculation.

And then we'll wrap it up. My speculation is that by pro-american i mean the dod there's a war

between the dod and the cia and there's always been this conflict the dod is aligned with now with

silicon valley and peter teiel and these Silicon Valley contractors.

And the Department of Defense has been strengthened by the creation of agencies like the DHS.

And this is a tug of war.

It's like DOD versus CIA.

CIA is with the academia. It's with the media.

It's with, you know, what they're calling the fourth branch, but then the DOD doesn't have the

soft power. It doesn't have the cultural soft power. It doesn't have a strong foothold in

politics either. So are the the two factions of the deep state fighting and that the doD are the neocons and the natenyahu is aligned with them so that's what i mean by american that whereas the CIA they're aligned with the EU basically so that's my appraisal right I guess my last point to you is that I do I do appreciate the conversation with you and and I guess my sort of urging is for you to rethink what might be your

most righteous and good faith ideas for how to best regenerate the United States of America and really rethink from first principles what might be really stale 1800s European-oriented philosophy that has sort of gotten you stuck into, I think, a very deceptive form of geopolitics and allegiance.

Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Good discussion. See you later. All right. We'll bring on, let's see, Global.

Okay, I brought you on before.

Henry.

Kayla, who else is requesting besides Henry and Global?

There's a guy, AI, who's been on for a while

pronouns and bio found

Yeah, bring them up. Leftist, yeah, bring them up. Bring them up. Hey, how's it going?

Good, how are you?

Good, good.

I've been a subscriber to Red America

since the first of people.

Pretty interesting stuff

in a lot of those articles

that are written.

My question is

does the ACP have any plans for a sort of newspaper?

Of course,

let it and called for that for a party newspaper.

Yeah, let me respond to that quickly

besides Red America

which is very dense theoretically

we're planning a kind of blog

thing

that's going to be much shorter articles

that's going to be on our website

it'll be shared to X as well, but

like the full form, like X

will be a preview and then there'll be a link

and you go to our website and that's how you basically

read them. Yeah, that's in the work.

Gotcha. Yeah, yeah.

I would

add maybe uh is there any sort of consideration for the social

media aspect of that um yeah the deep program regardless of their politics you know know, um, they have, they had a first thought

channel, which I thought was a good format.

Yeah, you know, when it comes to expanding, we, we have a YouTube channel. We really need to

grow the party a lot before we start doing that though though, because we're all, we all run our own social media platforms kind of full time already.

So we just don't have the resources for it right now and we don't have the ability to boost them and get have them gain traction right now but once we grow larger we're going to have all sorts of media stuff we do that makes sense yeah similar to that yeah. I had one more question.

This is more sort of a larger scale.

Just a question about the immigrant proletariat that exists in our country today.

What's the ACP line

that reconciles with

protests that are immigrants

undocumented that have

We want to have a strong

put hold in

a more secure segment

of the working class who won't face threat of immediate deportation if they organize.

And we want to build a base, a strong base of a, we want to revive the layer movement and the workers movement.

Now, once we get to doing that, it will be much easier. We'll have the necessary leverage to think about, you know, undocumented or whatever other communities. But we cannot begin with them, you know, or prioritize them because it's not a secure foundation for the labor movement.

Yeah, yeah, I think a lot of it has to do

with their

their uh

their economic power

buying power i guess

in my

yeah it's also the threat of deportation

is just instant yeah yeah

it's just like

Makes people very reluctant

To pop their heads out, you know?

Yeah, that makes sense, yeah.

To change national politics,

you need a strong national base always, you know?

Yeah, yeah.

The last thing I wanted to bring up was about 10 months ago,

Paul Cockshot actually made a video arguing that baristas were proletariat or at least productive worker. I can quickly

quickly kind of not respond but share my thoughts.

Yeah, yeah. He basically calculated the costs of

their costs and the profit margins on the sales, right, at sale.

Yeah.

But the question I raise is labor for it to be productive has to valorize capital.

But when you look at Starbucks, the capital that actually expands, that's responsible for the expansion of the franchise and the expansion of the company is not actually primarily sales. It's primarily coming from credit. The sales are just a form of data

for shareholders and other speculators

that show that

this is, it's like

a bubble. It's like when Bitcoin's

going up, everyone wants to buy in. Well, the

stock market in corporate America works

the same. The sales

rarely actually

finance

the growth of capital.

They don't, it's not really where the capital

is coming from. Whereas what

Marx was talking about,

when he talked about capital, is that capital derives from the sale of commodities.

That's what builds the capital from the surplus value, right?

That goes into the capital, which itself is what's responsible for the expansion of capital accumulation.

And that form of accumulation and reproduction of capital does not happen in Starbucks or any other modern company for that matter.

And that is a big, big challenge for markets just today to understand where the actual

value is coming from.

If it's not at the level of sales.

It's not just something that applies to baristas, but everything, you know.

Yeah.

I mean, Starbucks and any other sort of major food corporation are big commodity traders

and sort of that plays into the speculation market that they...

Yeah.

So one of the ideas we're we're interested in

is from michael hudson to understand political economy today you have to understand

how monopoly capitalism has evolved because lennon writes imperialism this is the era of monopoly capital

you know the era of monopoly capital is not the same thing as what Marx was talking about

so what is the labor that valorizes monopoly capital right it's not the same thing as as just being anyone who's employed or is given a wage.

But more interestingly, you have to think about what are the forms of revenue that are secure enough to act as security, financial security, or collateral, for speculative

investments in services.

And then if you evaluate and look at it, you'll always find it's energy like oil, and it's the blue collar industries, which are primarily very, very solid, reliable sources of rent and revenue, and it's atop the basis of this revenue, that all sorts of

different kind of speculative entrepreneurship and enterprise is possible. So in our view, I think

the service sector and the service

industry owes

itself not

actually to self-valorizing

capital in itself.

Rather, it belongs to the

realm of speculation.

Anything that is

purely driven by consumerism

is rooted in speculation.

Because for it to be

rooted in

capital, it has to be self-reproducing. It has to be something that is rooted in labor that valorizes the reproduction of capital, not just speculative investments based purely on the demand of consumers, right?

But based in the real production of value and the real production of profit, Starbucks

and all the other corporations are all in debt, you know?

Yes.

And so that is my view, basically. You can't just look at it by comparing sales to wages.

You have to also ask the question of where does the actual financing come from to build the stores and to invest in them and the operating costs? Where does that original capital and investment actually come from?

So, so is in, with, with all that you said is, does that mean that the productive process of making a cup of coffee to sell?

Is that inseparable from the financial sector and sort of that sector of the economy?

It is paid for by speculative investment.

Speculative capital. That's what pays for service. investment speculative capital

that's what pays

for services

like that

also in Disney World

where they're wearing

the costumes

in the hot sunny days

that is not

produce

that is not a type

of labor

that valorizes capital I mean more and so in a mom and pop

coffee shop is that still and separate is that coffee shops tend to be uh forms of subsistence

that cannot really expand.

Interesting.

They maybe can if they get out enough loans and they pay off the loans.

But then at that point there.

Yeah, at that point it becomes data.

Like investors are seeing this, there's a lot of demand

for this, so they'll get a bunch of

credit, and maybe it can become a chain,

and they can become a franchise.

It's like an American dream.

It's kind of one in a million. But it's not

necessarily something that doesn't happen

anymore. But it's not necessarily something that doesn't happen anymore.

But it's not just coming from the sales is what I mean. It has to really be coming from the sales for that to be really productive capital, according to Marx.

And it's not.

It's always coming from outside

speculative capital.

Interesting.

Okay, yeah, yeah.

So I'll end my time, but that just kind of piques interest in sort of what a what a socialist

economy would look like in terms of

maintaining strictly

productive

industry. Our idea is it's always been

free time. You know, if all

that really exists in terms

of

the real

economy

that is

that is

you know

rooted in some kind of like

wage labor

or labor vouchers,

some kind of institutionalized economics.

That's, you know,

you have to have this job to survive.

It's just like productive blue collar industries that everyone works for like 30 minutes a day or something right

and then all the things that are taken up by the service industry that people are doing to survive

people can just do things with their free time if you have a passion for If you have a passion for baking, you have a passion for making coffee,

you have a passion for running a bar,

just like people have passions for art and all these other kind of things,

we can have an information economy that rewards demand and it rewards popularity.

And we can divert resources more on that basis so that people can fulfill their dreams.

And consumers can also fulfill their dreams in the form of consumption.

Kind of like the internet, how the internet works.

In the non-physical digital world, people want to open up all kinds of shops.

They want to become artists. They want to be content creators.

They have all these visions for producing content that people have to become artists, they want to be content creators.

They have all these visions for producing content that people want and enjoy.

And it's rewarded algorithmically on the basis of demand.

And there's usually a patron system sometimes, like with Patreon, where audiences are deciding that they want to continue supporting it because of the demand. And none of it is

forced. It's all based in free time, people's free time. Now translate that from the digital to the real world, and that's how we want to replace the service sector. You can't have this model applied to the heavy industry materially necessary jobs or agriculture, but it can definitely apply to coffee shops.

There's a million different ways to run a coffee shop and make cups of coffee. Millions of different ways to mix the ingredients

and do whatever. I mean, here in Deerborn, we have a sprawling, very hyper-competitive coffee shop

environment, and there are a million times better than Starbucks, I'll tell you that. But there's so many different ways, variations, you know, when it comes to service-type businesses.

These should not be businesses upon whom people's livelihood depends.

These should be things that people do in their free time out of passion,

just like they're doing content creation on the internet.

So this is my view, basically.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense and sort of

clarifies things. Thanks.

Appreciate it.

And have a good night.

You too.

Good night.

Thanks.

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