What is Communism?

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hey

yo what's up guys how you doing how you

doing uh oh man oh man what a day oh man

what a day what a day I'm just kidding

nothing event will happen today

um what I do today I pretty much just

went to the gym

I tanned outside for a little bit and

prepared for the Stream

you know and then I also thought about

going to twitchcon and I you know I I

it's 300 and man that's a first of all

no okay and then I watched a little bit

of um some I watched a little bit of

zirko stream just to see like how it was

what was going on there and um

yeah yikes you know what I mean like

just yikes you know I don't I don't know

I don't think I don't think it's really

my type of crowd you know yeah yo what

up sabotage in a true free market that

page maybe other than monopolies

um I'm gonna answer that but if there

was a 10 Dono

by Interstellar multipolarity thank you

so much man

um it's obvious that you were a friend

of the worker playing his day to be

honest hard-working Americans thank you

so much man appreciate that and then for

your question

what are the problems you see in a true

free market other than monopolies

that's a hard one because I think

monopolies is the biggest one so that's

really a tough question that you got me

with there I would say

um besides that

here's what I would say actually I would

say something like this

and maybe I don't know I don't know if

I'm cheating here and this is kind of um

too fundamental as far as monopolies are

concerned but

of course all human societies are

changing all the time they're always

changing all the time right

but the problem with free markets as far

as I can see it is if if our goal is to

maximize human prosperity and

Commonwealth is that it seems like

there's patterns

of exchange it seems like so markets um

in terms of their necessity so far is

basically about how there's just this

chaotic

um

there's a chaos in the level of exchange

we can't predict it we can't plan it

beforehand and there's this Stoke how do

you pronounce it stochastis I don't

fucking know how to pronounce it there's

this kind of chaos there that you need

to allow to um develop first and then

you can react to it somehow

so far right and but the problem is that

on the other side on the reverse

when you just have a completely free

market and when I say a free market I

mean like you're basically dealing with

the absence of anything that's state

owned you're dealing with the absence of

public forms of property you're dealing

with you know

um

just basically like a uh pretty much

everyone's like a merchant I guess in a

Marketplace I think the problem

stochastic okay the problem is that

there's too many patterns

when it comes to how people exchange

things

and that acquires irregularity that does

develop into Monopoly most of the time

but more fundamentally

um it it becomes a matter of like the

very premises of economic activity

itself

so even if it doesn't become a monopoly

somehow I think it's better if you can

somehow I know we all hate the word

regulate but if you can just somehow

gain control

and maximize the those like you know

fundamental areas of the economy like

energy and just shit like that which

don't represent the exchange of goods in

particular but represent the premises of

the exchange of goods

um

you can better maximize human Prosperity

those things probably shouldn't be owned

by an individual because they concern

all of us I think markets have proven

their necessity

um mainly in the sphere of light goods

and these are I guess craft Goods right

Goods that are crafted with some kind of

artistic

um

some kind of aesthetical and artistic uh

level of necessity rather than like

material Baseline necessity anything

that can be standardized

as like a a constant you can just do

that through Central planning but it's

those it's those consumer goods that

represent this kind of really intricate

level of Ingenuity and creativity and

aesthetical partiality that render

themselves the most resistant

to being like planned for beforehand

through a central plan

so I I went on a really long tangent to

answer your question but hope that

answers your question

um yeah so anyway guys I'm gonna talk

about my day

and by the way I don't I don't imagine

the stream being

too long

I don't imagine it being too long but

so today I uh

thought about doing an IRL I thought

about going to twitchcon thought about

doing that kind of stuff I'm just not

interested I'm not interested I I'm

gonna tell you my experience in San

Diego so far as well

so I've been walking around and

today

well not just today but yesterday as

well

it seems like these twitch people are

just like I don't want to generalize but

like it's just like I'm so angry towards

them

I'm so angry towards them I'm talking

I'm not I'm talking about the the people

I don't recognize just like the random

fans because I I'm like are you the

redditor that called for me to get

banned because you could be right how am

I supposed to fucking know because you

know you think about it right

but I feel like I have been recognized

and it's like nobody can just maintain

eye contact

which

which is sad right pretty sad

but yeah nobody can maintain eye contact

but that's only because like every time

I see one of these like random fucking

innocent nerds I'm just like

really angrily because I'm blaming them

for my band just kidding

but uh yeah no it's been fun it's been

fun

but twitchcon

I I don't I wouldn't call this my crowd

I don't think it's my crowd right

I think um there's a there's a big

cultural difference as far as the type

of people that are here and one of the

things I noticed the most about twitch

after going to YouTube is that I feel

like twitch is kind of

a safe space for like socially awkward

people and kind of like you know shy

people and shit like that and it's like

every it's all it's like oh it's so

wholesome and everyone's made to feel

really good about the and then me and

then like I feel like me and Jackson

have a different mentality I feel like

me and Jackson you know me and Jackson

are the dudes

we like to be in the fucking VIP section

of the club fucking smoking cigars and

shit talking at the high level

Executives getting business deals done

when we don't like this shit this cute

little shit man that's what I'm trying

to say this this little cute shit you

know I mean like I don't know hard

emojis in this shut the fuck up man what

is this shit man I'm a 26 year old man

and you know I'm gonna say some this

there's something dark about twitch when

I was on Twitch I was having a lot of

dark thoughts like when I would go

travel and shit I feel like I was

trapped in a purple cage and I was in a

different world than the rest of society

and I'm gone I'm out of that cage now

because I'm on YouTube

no but all serious I'm coping a little

bit

because

would it have been fun to um

stream at twitchcon

yeah

I think so but it also would have kind

of been depressing

because like bro twitch viewers don't

like me it's like such a small minority

of twitch viewers that actually liked me

but like most of twitch fucking hates me

man most of twitch is Hassan

right most of which is the Hassan side

of things and they don't like me they're

they're not my style I don't get along

with these people right

um

and I had a good you know there was a

good number of people that liked me you

know there's there's also the zerka

community and shit but that's a small

part of twitch that's a very small part

of twitch majority of twitch don't like

me right

like the mainstream twitch don't like me

like all them Mischief people and Ludwig

and x xqc and you know them people they

don't they don't like they see me and

I'm just like a a damn criminal right

I'm an outcast I'm an Outlaw

anyway

so yeah I you know Sandy I'm I will say

something about San Diego what a

beautiful place

San Diego is such a um

such a clean Place such a nice clean

beautiful place I really appreciate

how it's so different from La you know I

was I was having really low expectations

for San Diego and I I'm pleasantly

surprised this is a very clean

up-to-date nice city I don't smell

there's not shit everywhere I can walk

around the downtown get my business done

still going to the gym every day

um because I don't you think I take days

off and I don't unless I absolutely have

to which I don't right

but uh it's been it's been nice but

here's the thing right

here's the thing about San Diego the

most the biggest thing about San Diego

is that like makes me want to go to

Tijuana you know what I mean like I feel

like Tijuana is where all the fun is

I want to go to Mexico this it makes me

want to go to Mexico I feel like San

Diego is just kind of like

I don't know it makes you it makes you

have a feeling of fomo

fear of missing out of what's going on

across the border where all the real fun

is happening right

so yeah

that's uh that's that's another thing

but you know

it's a cool place it's an interesting

place

which people I feel like I've ran into

some famous twitch people but I don't

like recognize them I only recognize a

handful of people

you know is what it is is what it is

um

but

yeah

anyway

um today's stream isn't gonna be too

long so I don't know how much we're

gonna be like Dilly dallying and just

chatting about nothing

and I don't know how

fast I want to get straight into the

meat and potatoes and then another thing

I don't know is um do people want this

stream the ones in the chat if you want

this stream

in the first place because I don't know

it's kind of taking people a long time

to get in here

right we're not even at the 300 mark yet

so you get so you it's usually how I

Benchmark these streams it's like by 30

minutes if we're not at the 300 mark I

don't know if people want the stream the

reason I wanted to do this stream is

because one

I don't actually have news today or I

don't have any news that I care about

yeah I could talk about wrestling

Ukraine I you know let it I'm until

something big happens I'm not talking

about nothing

so but what I wanted to talk about is I

want to keep focusing on the Maga

communism theme one of the best ways I

could probably do that is do it um an

introduction going straight to the

beginning from Marx because a lot of

people having red marks don't know

anything about that what is communism or

what is that right

just from the very beginning like

straight up what is communism

and I want to do this stream because a

lot of people were accusing me of of of

diluting what communism is and

whitewashing it and all this kind of

shit so I want to actually prove that

actually this diluted version is closer

to what Marx

appreciated about communism

then uh what leftists are trying to

claim right

but however I have to forewarn you that

this is going to be a pretty dense so

it's not going to be very long but it's

probably going to be a little bit dense

and there's going to be like reading and

I'm going to read stuff to you from Mark

so you're like you're gonna have to

Buckle in and have a good attention span

I'm gonna try to make it as palatable as

possible to you guys

but this is going to be like a very

brief

put it as a as a communism 101 an

introduction to Communism or what is

communism right

and I'm just going to take it straight

from the beginning and and we're going

to go straight from there

um as far as

you know what is communism what is that

what is that referring to uh where what

are the origins of that word very

briefly

and why did Marx pick up that word and

find something significant in it

so and then and then also it's going to

bleed into okay then what is Maga

communism okay

so first thing and I talked about this

view streams earlier

uh I'm gonna first explain to you guys

what it's not

so communism is not

a type of society it is not a system it

is not a type of government it's not a

type of economy it's not a type of it's

not a type of uh way of organizing the

economy it's not a type of the way it's

not a type of organizing of society uh

and it's not a vision for the future

it's not a set of policies

and it's not a um

it's not a program

it's not a policy based program

basically

um

that's the first thing you really have

to get out of the way

as far as understanding what this is is

concerned

oh you know what that one guy from Tick

Tock wanted to debate me actually

I remember that guy from Tick Tock

wanted to debate me

mods check the mod chat that one guy

that on Tick Tock that debated Destiny

agreed to debate me so he's in the

Discord and let's see if he's thank you

so much DL appreciate you so much man uh

mods please check the private chat

and bring on that guy

um who wanted to debate me from Tick

Tock just like reach out to him and

peeing the shit out of him

yeah Sue's Suza rain this would be the

perfect time to do that actually

um because like we could do both right

to like multitask I could like explain

to you the basics of Communism and we

could do this right

so

um yeah let's let's make that happen

guys let's make that happen

yeah that Zoomer guy so anyway before we

do that though we're gonna I'm Gonna

Keep like explaining this shit to you

we might have a nice debate on our hands

which would be cool right

so it doesn't look like he's online

right now

uh message him and DM him and shit and

like I don't know

let him know

so anyway

um

I'm gonna I'm gonna first of all explain

to you the origins of American American

leftist communism so the origins of

American leftist communism

I don't even have to talk about the new

left or all these communist parties

they're not those were like dead and

irrelevant the real uh origins of

American communism

is Obama Obama is the originator of

American communism if you can believe it

right when I say American communism I

mean like the leftist version of the

Hassan chats version of Communism that

started in the Obama era and actually it

started because the right and the

conservatives were accusing Obama

of being a communist

which inevitably got people curious but

that's still presupposed a framing of

politics that was based on you know the

um forms of pattern recognition of

policy making positions right so

American politics was in a

post-political era for a long time when

I say post-political I mean politics is

about a struggle for power and conflict

so around the time after the cold war or

maybe the mid 20th century I don't know

that no longer came to be the case

politics became reduced instead of like

a ruthless struggle for power

it was based on disagreements about

policy proposals right so certain policy

proposals were coded in the direction of

being toward the left and certain policy

proposals were coded in the direction of

being in the right and political

ideologies came to be conceived in terms

of patterns of policy making

um

uh positions right so if you were for

these set of policies that makes you a

socialist or that makes you a communist

or that makes you a progressive or that

makes you a liberal yada yada

and in the Obama era I think this

definition of politics in terms of

policy became especially solidified

um because Obama ran on a mandate of

change and he ran on a mandate of

Universal Health Care a lot of people

actually forget that health care for all

was Obama's campaign slogan basically

but the change thing or whatever that

defined Obama's uh political campaign

was also about this kind of

understanding of politics in terms of

policy as a Panacea for political

antagonism

policy is a remedy for for social and

political antagonism about for Obama

that was Medicare for all or not

Medicare for all but Universal Health

Care yada yada right so the right came

in at that time Glenn Beck and the rest

and they actually just connected some

dots which they weren't wrong about I

have to stress they were not wrong about

this

they uncovered a set of connections as

far as Obama's campaign Obama himself

elements of the democratic party and

then George Soros and they they

uncovered this whole web which was

seemingly made up of you know these

marxists from the new Left era

ranging from University professors to

their students to activists and things

like the SDS and all that kind of things

and it's like it's like this huge web

this huge conspiracy was uncovered

again it wasn't wrong in terms of the

facts what was wrong is how it wasn't

articulated but yeah these were these

were full of people who were you know

Communists or marxists in the 70s or at

least extreme far leftists

um and so so the so again I'm just doing

some good faith because a lot of people

think when the writer when the righties

called Obama a communist it was just

because they were like stupid or

whatever well no they weren't it was

actually based on a pretty rigorous

conspiracy theory that wasn't

necessarily wrong in terms of the

factual uh results It produced

so

Obama's policy making whatever political

revolution was called communist by the

righties

so progressives

again the the Obama progressives more or

less

I think The Young Turks is probably like

the best example of this basically

um responded to this accusation of

Communism by first denying it and then

saying you know after a while okay I'll

go straight to the source let's see what

this is huh you know what

first it was like oh socialism ain't

that bad

look at Sweden and look at Denmark look

at these European countries there's

nothing wrong with socialism

and then Bernie Sanders comes along and

you know Democratic socialism becomes

pretty a mainstream ideology in the

United States

based on policy based on a set of policy

proposals now Bernie Sanders case it was

Medicare for all

which was a little more specific than

Obama's promise so Medicare for all that

was socialism

uh political policies are

what defines Socialism or communism

right

and then leftists who became

disappointed with Bernie Sanders

campaign came and they said you know

what Bernie didn't go far enough and I'm

doing some research and I'm I'm reading

some literature and actually we can have

communism and communism basically means

that instead of just Universal

um Healthcare we could basically like

run the entire country like how we run

my University where basically like we we

make everything discursively mediated

and communally mediated and in the same

way that we are able to regulate our

universities and like control the

intricate details of every aspect of

them we'll do the same fucking thing or

like the entire country and the whole

country's economy so these kind of

social engineer overly socialized

um you know urbanites

coming from the Obama and Bernie Sanders

campaigns

the worst elements of them mind you

decided to interpret communism in terms

of you know the dictatorship of the

professional managerial Community the

dictatorship of the expert Community the

dictatorship basically of their kind of

you know digitally

um

uh

uh context

was that even a word

digitally based community and it's

digitally based because

it's

um

it's a version of community proper to

the information age right it's like a

it's a community based on the systems of

control as

de loser Foucault would put it rather

than discipline like in the factory

system it's about control now like

exclusion and inclusion

um coding and encoding

um you know gatekeeping and all the

things that define a digital Community

basically an information-based Community

with it which is about means of

filtering information canceling people

censoring people giving people

legitimation with a blue check yada yada

so this type of community right they

interpret communism

as the dictatorship of this type of

community

so

that is basically what is thus far

defined communism in America now

because it's a policy making paradigm

they will say things like okay well

communism is a stateless classless

moneyless society

which is basically just like this policy

making extreme paradigm

to make to change the Overton window and

make like the uh the sock them reforms

them of Bernie seem more palatable

but it's still in in the same spectrum

of like

um

political conceptions right or political

paradigm

still within the same Spectrum

so most people try to gatekeep the word

communism now and then when the righties

call you a commie or they call you a

communist or yeah they're like actually

no this is how we use and wasn't real

communism because communism is a

stateless moneyless classless society

and

um it's basically one of those actually

kind of meme things where it's like

that is what has come to define the word

communism

uh in this country for leftists right

and then the right still will cling to

The View

um because they're just basically

listening to what leftists are saying

because they're translating the bullshit

into reality okay what you mean is you

want the fucking government to uh

to to control everything basically right

and you don't want us to have any

fucking Freedom or Liberty from your

digitally contrived communities

so um

so yeah so what is what is communism

really okay

well historically

um

we've talked about this in our what the

meaning of socialism 2021 video but

first of all it's not a set of policy

making proposals it's first of all a

phenomena

and it was basically this phenomena

which decided to

um

place at the Forefront

a question right which is a social

question

so communism if you want to put make it

a preliminary definition of the word

communism is an R it's a it's a

communism was the movement or the

phenomena

which placed the social question at the

fore now why is there a social question

in the first place

because there is a to quote a video we

put out devastating loss of sociality

corresponding to the process of

modernization English foreclosures which

was this huge um

theft of pres peasant a small propriety

proprietorship and common lands

uh through debt mechanisms which evicted

peasants from their land basically

completely devastated the things that

glued human beings together

so before there's an invisible glue that

makes a community right Norms uh

Traditions uh customs

forms of mutual recognition and make up

a community basically you know um

forms of interaction between people

forms of exchange between people right

even even forms of exchange between

people uh these were all these all

represented some kind of organic form of

community that was always implicit and

was always taken for granted in some

kind of way

and and and this is this isn't like laws

it's not sets of laws it's not some

explicit coded system it's just you know

and it to put it in Marxist terms humans

are social creatures so man

is a part of a whole and the hole is

some kind of you know um substantive

community

and that can just exist in like a

natural and organic way and you don't

like the word natural I could say

organic way unconscious way without the

need for any like explicit formal

regulation because we are

we are part of a social whole it does

exist objectively

okay

well that becomes devastated in the

process of modernization

um

with what we know is modern capitalism

so suddenly people are completely

abstracted from that context

and you know

um

forced to relate to the most essential

aspects of their ways of life

um in a really abstract way an alienated

way right which is just labor so you're

selling your labor for a wage now you're

working in extremely alien

um

conditions like in a factory in a steel

mill there's no sociality at all it's

all very mechanical it's all very cold

it's all very calculating

and the human element is completely gone

so that is the context uh that forms the

basis of

the social question coming to the fore

like okay

since we've all been atomized

since we've all been atomized and

separated from each other in some kind

of way

what is it that glues us together it

like what defines our relationships with

each other it's clearly it clearly can't

just be

the formal

um

procedure of Exchange

because that's something inorganic and

contrived like what how do we actually

relate to each other

objectively right

so that's the social question like

basically what

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um what is the the invisible glue that

actually glues us together and communism

is a phenomenon which emerges as a

movement that places this question at

the Forefront and at the outset it

places this question at the Forefront by

trying to answer it right which is and

the way it tries to answer it is

basically okay this is what glues us

together

and if this is what glues us together

this is how a society should look like

in order for the way we're glued

together

um to achieve its fullest manifestation

our human abilities to achieve its

fullest manifestation we need to design

Society from scratch in a certain way

you know we have to have some kind of

communal regulation or communal control

and basically like you know this is the

the range of communism

like is extremely broad you have the

saint simeons who are industrialists you

have the fourierists who are more

agricultural

and the range of how they're imagining

how to organize Society it's all very

different but the one thing in common

is that there's no private property now

why is there no private property well

because if we're going to organize

Society in some kind of way from scratch

in order to conform

to

the social substance that is supposed to

glue us together as human beings

it has to be done so from the

perspective of the whole rather than the

part right

so no private property

um

the critique of private property

basically begins from that

and this as a whole defines the

phenomena

of communism

so very Ambiguously communism is defined

by a loss

and it's not defined by one solution to

that loss in particular but the range of

different

responses to that loss that's why in The

Communist Manifesto there's like 20

different versions of Communism they

name

because communism is first and foremost

the phenomena that's placing the social

question at the fore in the first place

it's not a specific remedy it's not a

specific solution it's not a specific

um

a type of way of imagining

what would fix this problem it's not a

specific answer to the social question

it's placing that question at the

Forefront to begin with so that's

basically historically what's defining

the word communism

okay so the question stands

if there's all of these different ways

that

um people are responding to the social

question how did Marx do that how did

Marx respond to the social question

probably that's the most important

question of all right because it's

Marxism that actually carried that word

communism which would have otherwise

been forgotten

into like the 21st century to the point

where we hear the word communism when

we're like oh that's Marxism that's

Marxism leninism that's the Soviet Union

that's China

well if it wasn't for Marxism that word

would have been forgotten right

thank you so much DL I appreciate you so

much but the truth is

um you know communism as a phenomena

predates Marxism and Marxism is just a

specific way of responding to the social

question that communism places at the

fore

IGN and that's specifically the way that

what that's called is like Scientific

Socialism is what it's called right

in Marxism

so

okay we've got that down

okay the question stands first of all

before we ask the question of what was

the specific response to the social

question

that distinguished Marxism

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the second question we have is why is it

that Marxism

uh carried this word to the 21st century

why has the word been forgotten right

well because

communism and socialism

is just a generality right it's just

representing the generality of the

devastation of our social substance

after a certain period of time

we as human beings historically forgot

this original devastating and general

destruction

of our social substance and started to

Define that Devastation in terms of its

positive solution

in particular right so for example

you won't believe it but

you know

sometimes different new religious cults

come to the fore

IGN new religious revivals

um other ideologies libertarianism

anarcho-capitalism if you can believe it

yes is a form of utopian socialism

all of these other things replace

communism and socialism

in terms of the terminology not in terms

of the substance in terms of the

terminology

as different words that try to address

the social question

and different varying and particular

ways

while forgetting the generality of so

the socius as such

so the abstraction the generality of the

Socialist is forgotten because it's

already

um

like over determined by a specific

remedy so to give you an example of this

and certain maybe um Catholic

liberationist ideologies you don't need

or let's say Islamic ideologies you

don't need to use the word communism or

socialism

because you'll just say we need to just

we need to treat peasants in a just way

right in accordance with our ancient

laws our holy laws and in this way thank

you so much Ethan appreciate you

how do you avoid giving up on the dream

I'm so tired of waiting for the future

to come I do not know how to raise

someone into it or how to find someone

supportive

thank you Ethan and I think the first

thing I would say is uh don't wait for

anything if you're waiting for anything

it's you know you're going to be waiting

forever so I would not wait

for anything

I think here and now you need to have a

plan like right now that's reflecting of

the your own immediate reality

instead of banking on an ideology to fix

your own personal life

so that's what I would say

I mean there's ideologies are not a

shortcut for how brutal and fucked up

life is you know

but um

to continue off of what I was saying

um

for example the reason the word

communism or socialism doesn't have to

be used in let's say the Muslim

brotherhood's ideology

is because instead they'll just say we

need to return

to you know the just

form of jurisprudence and I don't know

economic system that existed in the

Islamic times

where peasants will be treated fairly

instead of being robbed coldly and

blindly in the name of some kind of free

market or whatever

and for them that's their way of

addressing the social question and you

know the the question of the socius the

social question ceases to have the

generality that it used to

because they're basically annulling

the loss of the social question

uh in positive terms in positive terms

being Islam

instead of general terms right

so but but it's still for historical

for historically relevant purposes

that is still substantively socialistic

it is still substantively communistic

and socialistic it may not say it's

communist resources thank you so much

Theo appreciate you

based thank you so much man appreciate

you it may not

um explicitly say or call itself

socialistic or communistic but

substantively it actually is in

substance it actually is socialistic and

communistic it's substantively

socialistic and communistic because it

is responding to the social question and

placing the social question at the fore

in some kind of way whether it

recognizes that in general terms or not

um

so why does Marxism still cling to this

um

general term communism or socialism when

pretty much almost every Mass political

ideology in the 20th century

becomes socialistic or communistic right

why does Marxism stick to the general

term

and actually almost exclusively Marxism

does this the rest just jumps straight

to some positive answer and remedy why

does Marxism insist on this general term

communism and socialism the General

Social question the general socialist

the general community

well because Marxism

does not want us to forget about the

founding crime of modernity

thank you so much Ethan my life is legit

spaghetti I just don't know how to

forward my beliefs I am probably wording

this poorly

I think I think self-education is

probably the most important step

because sometimes when you want to jump

into something

it's a misplaced thirst for knowledge

rather than action

so

Marxism doesn't want us to forget the

general loss of sociality

that happened with modernity

and it doesn't want us to forget this

because Marxism is trying to become a

science of modernity it's trying to

repeat modernity Master modernity and

overcome modernity

whereas all of these other ideologies

still seem to presuppose or remain

Within

that

modernity they take for granted

for example

the ideology of Isis

is modernist they just take modernity

for granted right

they have gaslighted themselves and they

made themselves forget

that there was this moment and this

singularity in historical time

which represented this apocalypse where

nothing was ever the same again now if

you talk to an Isis person all they'll

say is something like well everything

went wrong when we uh stopped listening

to Sharia

and that was all right but they'll never

be able to grasp the extent to which

there was like this objective apocalypse

is irreducible and objective

split in the fabric of historical time

that is modernity

they'll try to whitewash and um

Gaslight themselves about that in terms

of their like panaceas and their

Solutions

but Marxism in particular will not

forget this why because Marxism

um

is really about at its core

and this is something you should

remember

alternate modernities Marxism is

basically about distilling

what modernity is and being able to

reproduce that

that Insight that scientific insight and

repeat it that's why you know China and

Russia represent these alternate

modernities

that's why they're such a

a problem for the West because the West

is really Anglo-Saxon

um

World Order

which was the origin of industrial

whatever modern capitalist industrial

modernity

and everything has been derivative of

that since but only in China and Russia

did they go straight to the basics

straight to the roots of the whole thing

and independently from scratch

create the foundation for an alternative

form of modernity and they did that

because with the use of the science that

is Marxism

so at its core Marxism is about

alternate modernities it's a science of

modernity and it's about alternate

modernities but if it's going to be a

science of modernity then it's it's not

going to leap over the generality of the

social question in terms of a particular

solution it's going to be insisting on

that generality in proportion to the

generality of its loss that corresponds

to modernity

and

in in Marxism that generality is

basically

understood

as like alternate modernity needs to

somehow

preserve or

establish a continuity with our

substantive sociality

but we can only accomplish this if we

raise our substantive sociality to the

status of a generality and in this way

we can kind of

relate to it

in a completely indirect way

if you can believe it

Marxist communism in contrast to like

utopian socialism or utopian communism

isn't when you look at our social Fabric

and say okay I want to rearrange and

reorganize all this according to what I

consider as more just no it says there

is like a substantive community

human community

and we're basically going to modernize

around that

so we're going to have an alternate

modernity that preserves the con

continuity of the real substantive

sociality that already exists

so the generality of Communism and

socialism really means

like basically a form of modernization

that continues to facilitate

and

um

support

the substantive sociality

that otherwise gets destroyed in the

process of modernization so that's

what's communistic about it that reason

China's communist or Russia's Communists

because however much they have

modernized

they've kind of left this breathing room

for communities to still exist thank you

so much Chris Martin when would you say

the Modern Age started and ended is

there a case modernity hasn't ended

considering three-quarters of the world

is not fully modernized so thank you so

much Chris so modernity has never began

or ended anywhere in any historical

timeline

modernity is a way of it's a type of

historical time

so for example modernity can be now

right right it can be here it can be now

it's not any specific starting point in

particular

um it's a shift in how time is

understood it's a shift in how

historical time

proceeds and succeeds itself but I mean

to answer your question in a better way

I think it's it's more a dialectic

transformation of quantity into quality

at a certain point

maybe maybe

um the essence of modernity has been

here since like 5 Million BC or some

shit right but at a certain point

um

it began to preponderate if I'm using

that word correctly over other forms of

historical time

and that probably is happening around

um

I I I I think there's a case to be made

that modernity begins with the Mongols

but it's generally agreed upon that

we're dealing you know probably the 16th

century

is when we're starting to see this

emerge right and so it takes

very explicit in final form

with uh 19th century industrial

capitalism

so yeah that's something important to

keep in mind

but that's something a lot of people

don't appreciate about communism

um China as I was saying China and

Russia

well not Russia now you can debate about

that I'm saying the Soviet Union China

and the Soviet Union were communists

foreign

from which the future rediscovers the

past and its recovery from

yeah I think you're yeah you're you're

definitely on on to what I'm talking

about

um

but to continue what I was saying

um

among music

um

uh

give me a second yeah okay so China and

the Soviet Union were Communists not

because they reorganized Society in some

kind of way but because however much

they modernized because they kept let's

say they kept at the Forefront and in

mind a very

um generalized

understanding of the socious and common

sociality and common

um community

that gave room for the substance of the

Socialists and the substance of

community to still flourish so however

much they modernized

some kind of organic social body was

still able to exist and there was an

extreme it's it's not that there was a

specific

social

um relations that were just like

preserved

for their own sake it was that

they did revolutionize their societies

technologically in terms of the forces

of production

and yes even in terms of

um on an Institutional level in many

respects but however much they did that

that Celsius was still preserved and the

reason it was preserved

was because it was understood in general

terms so do you guys understand what I'm

saying now it's like it's the complete

opposite of what you would expect

it's like it's it's related to the

Celsius is related to

almost in the same way as a negative

theology like God is defined by all the

things he's not but he's still real

right so the socius is defined by all of

the ways

in which it is not

but it's still real right so for example

um is industrialization

a

let me put it in this term right to make

you guys understand it better

so let's say you have a traditional form

of Agriculture right and this was the

case in the Soviet Union a traditional

form of agriculture

a way of

um planting seeds in the soil

and and making

um a way of growing food right a

traditional way of growing food sounds

great right but your traditional way of

growing food isn't allowing you to

industrialize and if you can't

industrialize you're going to be

subjugated to the West you're going to

be subjugated to Britain right are you

guys following me here so there's a

traditional way of organizing

Agriculture and growing food

and the specific way of growing food

this specific form of Agriculture also

happens to be the Abode of a specific

social

um

substantive realization of the

associates so Community is organized

around this specific way of growing

agriculture so in Marx's terms

the superstructure Atop The relations

and forces of production it's all

organically intertwined

the problem of modernity is that it

separates all these things it separates

people from their means of production

right

so

what makes communism different

is that

it revolutionizes for example the method

of production agriculture but because it

has raised the socius to the status and

the level of a generality

it somehow is made compatible with this

Revolution and survives

which is an incredible thing

so that's why it's called socialism and

that's why it's called communism it's

not called socialism and communism

because it's trying to create a specific

type of community or a specific type of

social organization it's called

socialism and communism it's raising

these things Associates to the level of

a generality because of all of the ways

in which for example the revolutionizing

of the forces of production doesn't have

to be tied down

to a specific form of community

so a community in general allows the

forces of production to be Unleashed

without leading to the disastrous

results of capitalist modernity

which basically destroy and devastate

social bonds sociality as such and and

communal relations in general

so this is the significance of Communism

as it was actually practiced or

implemented or whatever the fuck you

want to call it

I mean to put this in um

to put this in fucking like layman's

terms

communism if you want to put it I'm

going to put this in American terms

right Soviet communism North Korean

communism Chinese communism it's

literally just like

imagine a society

created for rednecks

yeah a redneck dictatorship or rednecks

by rednecks

and of rednecks that's what it is

because you know we associate rednecks

as with rural people who have their

backward whatever

substantive

social forms of

um interaction and stuff that's what

those societies were the rule and reign

of rednecks

so if you want to talk to conservatives

in an honest way about what communism is

um I I know this is a little bit

outdated but it's like

I mean it's like it's literally like

imagine if fucking duck dying imagine if

there's a society

where the Duck Dynasty people were the

subject of that whole society like

imagine a society created by Foreign of

them that's what communism is

you're preserving the substantive

sociality while unleashing the forces of

production

so that's what it is

an alternative form of modernity

got one's in the chat if I'm kind of

shifting if I'm making an impact in

terms of like

how you're picturing these things right

now like it do you do you see

um

has your Intuit intuition of this word

kind of shifted a little bit

like is it A New Perspective and what

I'm trying to say thank you so much Sean

appreciate it possible explain what

philosophers German idealists generally

mean by positive and negative like a

positive project

Etc okay so positive is basically going

to be defined by something particular so

something in terms of its content right

something in particular and then

negative is going to be described in

terms of the general so that's basically

a really rough way of putting it

so negative is basically like okay let's

say for example I have this phone okay

so negative means I destroy the phone

so at one swoop the phone is

um reduced to a generality

because it's annihilated right

that Annihilation raises this to the

level of a generality

so something positive would be

um

I smashed the phone on the ground to

have a cracked phone right because I

want a cracked phone so this is defined

positively now it's a cracked phone and

and maybe I want to put the cracked

phone in my ass or something in my ass

crack right

so it has a use it has it's like it's a

it's a positive result right maybe

that's not the best way of putting it

um there's probably there's probably

another way like um

I have a bucket of water I just empty it

on the ground and it's no more that's

the negation right I have a bucket of

water and then I empty it on a plant

because I want to grow the plant that's

positive so you see the negation

in the case of throwing it on the plant

is ends with something positive

in the first case it's just a completely

abstract negation right so that's

basically how you should understand that

um

yeah

so that's yeah that's how I would put

that's that's how I would put it

basically

okay so so

if the Marxist perspective on communism

is

different from all of the rest of the

ways of answering the social question

by a preserving communism As A

generality and B using that generality

to arrive at a positive result whether

it's the forces of production being

developed

or just allowing the natural organic

relations of human beings to to develop

corresponding to that

um

how was that how is that right

well I think we should actually consult

none other than Marx himself

in his uh economic and

philosophic manuscripts in the section

private property and communism

so I told you guys this one was going to

be a uh

dense stream

and uh so buckle up right

I'm gonna read I'm gonna read you this

not all of it I'm gonna read you the

relevant Parts I'm gonna skim a lot of

it and I'm actually gonna do something

that no Marxist I challenge any Marxist

to uh

read this to their viewers and correctly

interpret what Marx was saying because

I'm gonna do that for you guys right now

I'm going to correctly interpret

this otherwise extremely esoteric

like incomprehensible text and I'm gonna

make it

make sense for it thank you so much

spander I appreciate it therefore say

that projects like the Islamic Republic

in Iran and the Bavarian Republic and

Venezuela failed to address this

question

I think the real question would be to

what extent are countries like Iran and

Venezuela

still dependent on China

could they exist without countries like

China that is the relevant question if

China didn't exist would they be able to

hold their own I don't know if they

could right and that that really is what

defends the enduring significance of

communism

someone wants to debate

okay

is a sub-optimal mode operating as a

society

okay I will debate this person right now

let's just do it I'll debate them right

now

um

fuck

okay

hello

unmute yourself

yeah I can hear you

can you what

uh I don't care

yeah cause I can't I can play

okay

yeah so why did I know

I mean

tends to lead to the corruption of uh

government and you basically get a

globalist

kind of system that we have now I don't

see it as a

as an easy way to uh

have Society function in a good way

all right so how is

um the October revolution of 1917

and the Chinese Revolution of 1949 how

are those things responsible for the

globalist society we have today

now let me let me rephrase I think that

if you have a communist structure

it's gonna going to lead to the

government taking all the control which

is basically the

the the trend that we see now in society

where when the globalists want all the

control

can you cite relevant examples of that

how the globalists want control no uh

how it leads to government taking

control of everything

yeah so I introduced myself as initially

wanting to ask questions because I'm not

you know very educated on the matter but

as far as I know

the common instructors that we've seen

in the Soviet Union were led to Decay

and

um the government basically uh

corrupting and destroying the nation

um so

you say that it led to the destruction

of the nation let's just start with that

one

when when was the nation destroyed

the Soviet the Soviet Union

yeah when did it destroy the nation

well it committed genocide

against two

at the Ukraine

so if because there was a famine you're

saying that it was a genocide

well they didn't they didn't let the

ukrainians out of the country and they

didn't let them they had to transport

the food to the communist leader

what do you mean like are you saying

that Stalin ate all the grain or

yeah he they they were corrupted and

they sent all the food to the Soviet

Union and they abused the ukrainians

even even if I was even if I were to

temporarily entertain that view

um why how is that a genocide

it's not a a direct genocide

uh though yeah I'm not too familiar with

the history but it is an indirect

genocide if you steal the food and you

don't let them move away and you kill

them if they try to leave that's a

genocide no it's an indoor so you're

saying so but why why would it be in the

interest of the Soviet government to

starve the ukrainians

because they're Psychopathic and

corrupted

they don't need a necessary a wholesome

interest to just but don't you think

that's like the poorly written villain

in a movie who just doesn't have a

motivation he's just twirling his

mustache don't you think that like

that's just not oh they probably they

probably targeted why did more Russians

die than ukrainians I got a donation

well my donation actually said if the

famine was targeted at Ukraine why did

more Russians die than ukrainians

well doesn't that prove my point I I

don't think it does because now you're

saying there's a genocide against the

ukrainians Apparently now it's a

genocide against Russians

yeah but if the point is that it leads

to Corruption of a government and people

then and the nation Falls that was my

point

it doesn't seem how did the nation fall

there was a famine I will concede to you

there was a really brutal famine

um just like there were brutal famines

defining the whole modern history of

Europe that we've decided are no longer

politically significant because enough

time has passed

well there haven't been any famines in

the last couple 50 years with capitalism

right well there haven't been any

famines in the last 50 years of Russian

History either

yeah but the Russians by by the year

1989 there were no famines in the past

but if you

um unless you include the war and the

results of the war

there were no famines in the Soviet

Union either

as of 89.

discounting the war and its effects

at what point was Hollow mode

it was it was after that Hollow the more

is a

made-up term created by uh Ukrainian

Nazi emigres in Canada because they

wanted to create this Psychological

Association between the Famine of 3233

with the Holocaust and have it have that

same significance

but I uh that is just a completely

stupid word

um

well it seems that we then would have to

disagree about the sources of the

ukrainians or honestly

maybe the Ukrainian emigre community of

the 1950s and onwards

was very significantly comprised of Nazi

Collaborators

and otherwise complete enemies of both

the Soviet and Ukrainian people Elites

who oppressed the Ukrainian people and

were kicked out

but okay so if the point of Communism is

to

um like basically ensure that the people

uh that it's fairly shared the resources

and benefits right

I see I don't know where you're reading

about communism but

well that's my impression

well but don't you think an impression

isn't enough to have a informed debate

about it

arguably but that's why because like

I've spent the last hour of the stream

talking about communism

I guess I did it in vain

instead of sure yeah you just came on

and now you're just talking to me about

your impressions

well yeah this is what I'm literally

streaming about right now it's literally

the topic of my stream

sure sure as I said I wanted to

initially just come in and ask questions

and then debate you about it and have an

argument about it okay which is the

conversation about it uh yeah I'm aware

that I'm not you know perfectly uh

informed

that's what I initially said but then I

heard I had to only do debates so I was

like sure let's debate but yeah not the

strong the opponent in that sense

but if you want to uh I think it could

be interesting because

as as far as I know

communism would be like a kind of total

government control right where the

government controls uh basically

everything

uh I I disagree I I don't know where

you're getting that impression from

well I mean I could probably guess where

you're getting that impression from the

reason I did the stream today is to

educate people with that impression that

many people do have in mind about the

truth

but I don't know how I could work with

that in your case like what would you

want me to say other than it's not true

well what I want you to say I mean I

don't want you to say anything I think

it'd be interesting to discuss this

subject because many people you know

um that have have this impression that

communism is about the government

controlling of it

okay

so

what does it mean for for uh there to be

control

what does it mean for there to be

control

like I mean people have to pay taxes

right

okay

so so basically we we now have a free

market and some government intervention

why is that not why why do we have to

change that

who who is we who has a free market

the West I would argue

you think the West is a free market

uh partly yeah

where did you learn that you don't agree

with that I mean um

because do they teach that at school or

yeah we have a free month all right I

could like uh at least buy it so what is

this question is why why do we have no

let's continue let's continue actually

what is free about the markets that

exist in the West

it's right it has a degree of freedom I

I and I would think less what do you

mean by that

well the companies can uh have a market

where they can sell their goods and

people can buy it

and it is not owned by the government

okay so so which companies

what do you mean you you keep asking me

all these questions and you seem to be

dodging so yeah because it kind of

sounds like you're insinuating anyone

can just

go to the market and participate in the

market in a free way

well to a degree I mean not exactly it's

not I mean it's you you could argue that

the corporations have a you know uh

so if your economy is only dominated by

a handful

I won't even say that it's a dominated

by a handful of Corporations because

it's not

if the entire world economy is dominated

by a select few and few is maybe pushing

it central banks

and then

uh it's beyond that corporations which

aren't even at the very top of the

ladder

I mean what is free about the market

how can the market be free

do you even I mean first of all the

first thing that's

presupposed about a market

is exchanged right okay okay but now

you're saying yeah if the Universal

Medium of exchange is in the hands of

central banks

well I mean how could the market be free

how could you be how could you have a

free market and have free exchange but

you just said you just said there are

only a few Corporation and that's a

stretch but there are many many many

cooperations I said which dominate the

economy

yeah but they they intended everyone

participates still

a few have an unfair Advantage I'd argue

that

okay but if they if they have an unfair

advantage that's one way of putting it

another way of putting it is that they

completely control

the market and they've completely

captured the market in cooperation with

the government

yeah I would say that's true to a degree

yeah

well I wouldn't say it's true to a

degree I would say it's true

as a matter of fact well they don't own

all the farmers for example there's

there's many independent Farmers okay

what's happening to them

yeah they're being dissolved but that's

kind of my point that's not what we

should but if we're living in a free

market

and farmers

yeah

well what does that say about the system

we live in

but it's partly communist maybe even

okay so we don't live in a free market

I mean

I guess not then but we do to a degree

because they're trying to disown the

farmers which means there's a degree of

freedom

of the market

what is the degree of Freedom when all

these farmers are in debt freedom to do

what not all of the farmers are in that

the overwhelming majority of small

farmers are in debt

you have a source on that I don't think

that look up these average

um

rate of Revenue versus rate of costs for

the American Farmer Small farmer

our farmers in depth

are most farmers

Farmers in-depth

it's hard to to get a definitive answer

from just Googling this but do you seem

to know this why not

uh what's your solution then

you mirror no I didn't what did you say

so what so but that's my point that

they're trying to disown the farmers by

a kind of government control like a kind

of awe-encompassing government control

now

um

who is the government trying to control

them

the people I mean who else

the people like the majority of people

yeah

so you're saying the the majority are

trying to control the minority

no the minority is trying to control the

majority but you just said I asked you

who's the government you said the people

no no that's not what I said

they're trying to control the people the

government in this case is a badly

Democratic chosen uh Elite and and an

elite that's not democratically chosen

and you're blaming communism for all

this

no not blaming communism problem I'm

saying that that trend of wanting to

disown the farmers and the independent

people sounds like communism to me is

not a good thing

I agree it's not good but I don't know

how you can blame communism for it there

are real world examples of communism

I don't see what relation they have to

what's going on now

but haven't they all ended basically in

a lot of death

I I mean again

maybe first of all let's let's let's

there's a lot of things to unpack

so how have they ended because China is

still a communist state

is it though and the Soviet Union ended

in 91

um okay like like what like like 60

years after the Famine of 3233 so it's

just I don't know what you're talking

about in particular

perfect so I think China is an

interesting example because would you

argue that China is in a better State

than the us or than Europe

in turn if you add the factor of time

yes

but currently not

there's no such thing it's all about

where are you going and yeah China's

going in a better place

but it's currently not

Okay so

when did the United States start

industrializing can you give me a rough

date

I I would guess 1850. okay when did

China start industrializing

uh I guess maybe 90 around maybe 50

years later 1900.

China's industrial modernization and

Industrial process

started in 1900

that would be my guess yeah I'm not the

most educated

what if I told you it basically started

in the 70s

all right that's interesting

a data i i i that doesn't sound like a

reasonable that America started in 1850

let's say and they started 60 years ago

when yes they did yes

when the China start industrializing I'm

Googling it

it says the early 1900s

that's just not true that was not that

was not the industrialization of China

that was the industrialization of a few

remote and isolated cities that had

nothing to do with the whole National

economy the o-run majority of China

has remained an agrarian country

until very recently

but they did start in 1912.

and it says here 92.6 and which makes

sense because at that point they knew

about technology so you you figured I'd

try to first of all

first of all sorry they is who who is

they started

okay so you're saying that that it

didn't start at that point no it didn't

it started very recently

okay

let's see at the CO2 emissions of China

all right no let's not see the fucking

CO2 emissions because I don't want you

to jump to another point

you said what what you said which

country has a better standard of living

America or China yeah you think but I'm

not sure if you think do you think the

time lag of Developmental differences

might have something to do with it

rather than anything about the systems

you think maybe it's because China

started industrializing like over a

hundred years fucking later than the US

did and it's actually condensing the

process of modernization

into a much more rapidly

faster and smaller time frame

maybe that has something to do with it

if they actually started in the 1970s

that's that's impressive okay when did

when did uh okay how long did it take

Russia to industrialize

under communism

thank you Chris Morlock first Revolution

right you mean when they started

industrializing your questions

yeah I'll answer it for you it took 10

years

I mean starting to industrialize like

when they got the whole thing going okay

but that's not necessarily an argument

so so Communist States could do in

decades

What it Took centuries for capitalist

states to do

but they still were behind uh capitalist

States why were they behind them so much

I just told you

no that they could do in decades what

the capital states did in centuries in

terms

but why were they a hundred years behind

are you asking me why communism took so

long to come into power

no I'm asking you why they were 100

years behind in industrializing

because they didn't invent time machines

yet I don't know what to tell you

that's not really a very rationalized I

mean what are you asking why were they

you're using the argument they

industrialized so much faster but I'm

asking you why did they start a hundred

years late and doesn't so the the

Communist reverence that happened in

1917 the industrialization happens

around 1928.

what is your question sir

I don't have a question about that so

okay so so you're asking me why did they

start industrializing in 1928 as opposed

1828 okay when the Communists were not

in power

you said they got into power in 1970

then 10 years later they started

industrializing if they're like so much

so much faster why is Russia still

behind

oh why are they still behind

aren't they well they were not behind in

terms of the primary sphere of

industrial uh production like they

produced more Iron and Steel

than the capitalist countries

they're way poor they're still way poor

okay so in terms of the production of

Light Industry goods and that's that

good standard of living that's only

something you started to see in the

post-war period in capitalist countries

and it's not because of capitalism it's

because of the emergence of the

um you know kind of cybernetic

Information Age

which is more consumer oriented and it's

based in Light Industry

if you're asking why the Soviet Union

couldn't adjust to that

um

that represents a deficiency

in their specific version of Communism

but the Soviet I mean but the Chinese

didn't have that deficiency

and the Chinese are able to do it just

as well

okay so you're saying that Russia was

basically inefficient at doing their

colonism that's interesting no I didn't

see

I didn't say they were inefficient at

doing communism I said they were

inefficient in adjusting to a new era of

economic history for the world which was

the information age which they were bad

at adjusting to for political and

historical reasons

and the Chinese for those same reasons

could adjust to those

in terms of in terms of accomplishing

the goal of industrializing and

modernizing ask if he has a good workers

because this is kind of wild serious

question I appreciate you man

that's interesting though

so you would argue that China is going

to be in a better State and arguably

maybe even is in a better state right

now

in terms of what

um General well-being well

so

um and an aggregate level China is still

developing

all right

because a lot of China is still agrarian

but in terms of the rate of change and

the rate of poverty alleviation and the

rate of development China is on track to

overtake the west and every possible

metric

that's interesting though though I would

argue not in terms of

freedom of expression

and

journalistic freedom

um yeah like Julian Assange

well that's yeah I would agree with that

that's true and like me like like for

example like I'm banned on Twitter and

on Twitch

and but did you get banned on Twitter

for for just uh for what did you get

banned on Twitter

for the reason you would expect

I don't think you got bad for being a

communist

I doubt that I did get banned for

expressing my views

yeah but in what way did you express

those views generally

being the the starting the Maga

communism meme

that's where you go banned for yeah that

sucks that sucks well you're gonna get

you can get on soon hopefully if uh musk

gets reinstated or best for him that'd

be nice yeah but we have big Tech

censorship here so we don't have freedom

of speech

yeah I agree I agree but I would think

that it's worse in China though right

uh worse in what way

but that basically if if I'm just a

giant Citizen and I express myself on

social media it can affect my social

credit score for example no

just plainly no that's a complete

bullshit uh myth

it's also credits and the system has

nothing to do with that

it couldn't get you in jail

foreign

certain things on social media get you

in jail

not just just like explicitly

criticizing certain people in the

government or to government no but

saying certain things can get you in

jail yeah

yeah but you don't think that people in

China can criticize the government

basically freely

because yeah they can they can criticize

the government but there are limits

for example the criticism can't spill

over to we need to overthrow the

government or we need to have

whatever

so there are limits of the criticism but

yeah you can freely criticize the

government

and journalists aren't they trying and

Joe quite frequently or are they quite

free when I say freely I mean like uh I

don't even know what you said but when I

say freely I mean like as far as the

things that concern everyday Chinese

citizens and netizens

yeah they can talk about those things if

the government's being inefficient or

it's not acting in a way according to

their wishes yeah they can voice

themselves

um

but are they allowed to like have a

fundamental opposition

um to China

and promote like the American point of

view and stuff or

you know promote separatism in some kind

of way no they can't do those things

and you would argue that's bad

I would argue what

you would argue that that's bad that

they aren't allowed to express

themselves really

well China is a different country and

it's a completely different culture

sure

so it's not my place to say it's good or

bad for China do I want that for America

no

all right

oh I'm back again I think

can you hear me yep

all right

all right well that's more interesting

than I thought I think the the argument

that China is developing much faster is

quite interesting

but I wouldn't see but to me communism

sounds like just simply more government

control but I honestly don't know much

about it

all right

well uh

it's less

um government control

less government control

than capitalism

in what way

well communism basically allows

communities to govern themselves in ways

that's not possible under capitalism

because there's just this General

understanding of a you know a common

social substance that people have

so you really Beyond you know the threat

of foreign infiltration and things like

that in China you know the government is

not meddling in people's affairs

very strongly

on the village level on like this small

community level communities regulate

themselves

uh and Lenin state in Lenin State and

Revolution the dynamic of the Communist

attitudes described perfectly he says

you know the the principle We have

basically is like you know

there's a there's general laws of social

regulation like if you're on the street

and and a woman's assaulting sorry

someone's assaulting a woman the crowd

is going to stop and intervene that's a

basic social law that's a basic kind of

self-governance

so that's kind of the attitude as far as

communities under communism

but with like less police

yeah

yeah generally yeah if you need to have

a society that's civilized enough where

you don't need police everywhere

you know

harassing people

that's interesting like in the Soviet

Union for example I'll give you some

footage that was recorded by Americans

who went there

this was in the 80s

so there was a woman jay walking on the

street and a Soviet militia there are

policemen there who basically stopped

her

and basically you know was like Hey

Stone jaywalk why are you jaywalking so

the whole crowd came and basically

jumped to the guy not physically but

just you know hey leave her alone what

are you doing why are you bothering her

because even though what she did was

illegal and technically against the law

they exp they expect the police to look

the other way because you know

these are civilized people

and this is their way of life so why is

the police coming and meddling in

people's day-to-day you know

happenings it's just not considered

appropriate

okay so what would be the big change

then if we would switch to a kind of

Communist States

um

the big change would probably be at the

level of you know more economic

prosperity

more free time

and I think you would probably notice

believe it or not the biggest changes of

all the things that you would notice

probably are at the level of culture

I mean would you notice a better

standard of living and Better Health

for people and whatever I mean less

poverty yeah you'd notice those

but the like thing that would be the

most in your face is probably at the

level of culture

the satanic agenda is not being pushed

anymore

and you're gonna start you're starting

to watch movies now and you're starting

to

watch TV and you're starting to interact

with media now

in a way that reflects your basic human

you know natural tastes and instincts

rather than things that are so

alienating and uh whatever so I mean

yeah

just overall you're gonna have a less

alienated Society probably you're going

to have a society that has more

solidarity

um and what I mean by that is more of a

sense of

togetherness

um

rather than um you know everyone's

selling each other

or the quickest dime

you're not gonna have any prostitution

you're not gonna have any pornography

you're not gonna have

um

you know you're not gonna have all this

crime and all that kind of shit so

that's probably what you would notice

so I basically heard two things it's

like well you're just gonna get more

prosperous and we're all going to become

more civilized but

I mean it sounds a bit like a stretch

but okay let's understand how would that

come about what what would happen like

how would you implement this what

changes would you make if you were

president let's see

If I Was President I would um dissolve

the government

he would dissolve the government yep

so you would just have no government

like Anarchy

no I'd I'd uh I'd have

I basically we we do 1776 again

basically where local city councils and

local Town forms of small government

basically spro spring up

and then from there we have a more

derivative system

uh where the go the the central

government becomes derivative from that

basically at the smallest level

it sounds interesting but it doesn't

sound feasible

well that that is how the Soviet

government was foreign

holy shit

thank you man congrats appreciate you

so but how would that wouldn't work on

today's stance because in 1779 over and

over it was you didn't have mega

corporations owning so much of the land

so first of all

there's going to be a lot of things that

happen government's machine is going to

be dismantled there's going to be a new

people's government and it's stead which

is going to be much more simple and much

smaller

and uh the power of the corporations I

mean corporations that just means a

company that's Incorporated so that's

based in government that will all

dissolve basically no corporations are

quite private I would say no it's called

a corporation so when a company becomes

Incorporated

that means it becomes Incorporated by

government and it it's um the way it's

taxed and the way it's treated by law

becomes different

okay so maybe we can talk yeah

so yeah so so the corporations assets

physical assets will become seized

the banks will completely be dissolved

and seized

um dissolved is probably more like it

the the money system will be transformed

thank you so much after a duck would be

a rapid rush to industrialize the world

yeah but you need a government to do

that in human history yep yeah there

would I already said there would be a

people's government which would be much

smaller and more simple

and yeah but you need to do that

in each of that no because these would

be very these would be preliminary

measures of dissolving the because if

you change the government the

corporation's power is destroyed first

of all

and second of all you know the court the

fundamental

assets of the corporations

uh electricity energy

you know water land that they own

especially land all that is going to be

seized

then as far as Land Reform is concerned

the small farmer who's now in debt and

can't pay for their costs

is going to be uplifted and there's

going to be more small farmers actually

so big aggro

big agribusiness

will have its land seized and

distributed to human beings small

farmers that will work the land

yeah I would say it's an interesting

it's an interesting view because and

then the government will probably you

know establish

maybe state-owned infrastructure

Enterprises Construction

um everything will be changed right

so it'll be a revolution

yeah

it doesn't sound so bad actually also

I'm aware of the correlations of income

inequality uh I've I've made a small

YouTube video about it that I stole from

Zeitgeist where and you see the

correlations of increment in

sorry

I don't care too much about income

inequality

okay sure let me let me just phrase that

real quick if you have income inequality

it correlates very strongly with like

mental illness crime

yeah but I think that's important

symptom rather than the drug use I think

that's more of the symptom rather than

the disease

but it correlates very strongly so why

would that be so that would be

uh because I think income inequality is

correlating in many ways to uh other

things

well yeah with the you know unrestrained

power of Finance basically yeah

yep I'd agree with that

okay interesting I I think you I do have

a point I I think uh the Zeitgeist films

were very inspiring to me or very

inspiring they were very I would say

quite impactful in the way that things

aren't exactly as they should be

um so I do think you have a good point

there

I will

continue to educate myself and maybe we

can have another show uh sometime in the

future all right for sure see you

thanks thanks

all right guys I'm gonna

I'm going to um

I'm gonna agree I don't have a lot of

time left on the screen

but fuck

I'm gonna read this to you and interpret

it for you right

because I think this is important

so

the antithesis between lack of property

and property so long as it is not

comprehended as the antithesis of Labor

and capital

Still Remains an indifferent antithesis

not grasped in its active Connection in

its internal relation not yet grasped as

a contradiction so what does this mean

so when here you know this is the kind

of haves and have-nots kind of thing if

you want to put this in simple terms

that we that is very apparent to us some

have a lot of property some have no

property so probably the first you know

um

probably the first like impression you

get of okay why communism because

there's haves and have-nots

right that's how most people think

well Marx is saying

well the problem with that narrow view

if he just stays there

is that it needs to be understood in

terms of an imminent antithesis between

labor and capital

so what Marx is saying is that it's not

just that some people are greedy and

taking everything and there's just

have-nots and they have to take it from

them as many socialists today try to say

no there's an internal contradiction

between labor and capital and this is an

imminent almost

um I wouldn't call it ontological but

almost metaphysical contradiction

where there are no villains

or bad guys it's just a internal Paradox

similar to the political paradox

I talked about in the manga communism

piece

it can find expression in this first

form

even without the advanced development of

private property as an ancient Roman

turkey so Marx here saying even without

an advanced form of

um

private property you do still see

inequality between haves and have-nots

it doesn't yet appear as having been

established by private property itself

having its origins in in the

contradiction posed by private property

itself

at this point in development

but labor the subjective essence of

private property as exclusion of

property and capital objective labor as

exclusion of Labor

constitute private property as its

developed state of contradiction hence a

dynamic relationship driving to a

resolution so I'm going to translate

this part for you

because this is probably really hard to

understand if you don't have

uh someone explaining it

who knows the context and knows what

this means

so why does Mark say that labor is the

subjective essence of private property

because

private property taken as something

that's or

um someone or something

a person a human being

so a subject private property taken as

something for a subject

um

the essence of that is labor why because

in our laboring activity we're working

to produce something we're produced

we're working to make something or for

something or you know we're hired by

someone or we're trying to make

something to sell

yada yada

so private the subjective essence of

private property

as the exclusion of property

is labor

and what does Marx mean here by the

exclusion of private property

because when you try to look at the

essence of what private property is

in a way that can't be subsumed by

property

that's labor it's the process of Labor

okay

now Capital objective labor as the

exclusion of Labor so when you objectify

this process of Labor

of transforming the world around us to

produce an end result

uh but you exclude the labor part and

you just institutionalize it it's

Capital right why because capital is a

thing that makes you

more of the thing that you started with

right MCM that's capital

so it's objectified labor but with the

exclusion of Labor right

and Marx is saying that

labor versus Capital are these do this

this is like a duality that represents

private property as the div and its most

developed state

the final contradiction

that's at the core of property developed

into its final State and why because

remember labor what all labor means

is in this case the subjective essence

of property right like

what were

how do I put it um we have things how do

we get the things we have

and um

how do we

um

what is the thing that um

makes that right produces that so that's

labor right

and then Capital which is the

objectification of that process

so it's like it's this interesting

Dynamic so you have objects

that in the process of their

constitution and their creation that's

labor right and then you have the

objectification of Labor itself

which is capital

so when only when labor itself in

general and in general terms

becomes a form of property

the way you interpret this is simple

right when labor itself in general

general labor right

that's why Marx talks about general

labor when labor itself raised to the

status of a generality becomes a form of

private property

you get capital

and there you get the most advanced

form of private property

founded on the contradiction between

capital and labor because

when Marx is using the word private

property here he's not talking about

things we own to use he's not even

talking about he's not even just talking

about small businesses why and why am I

saying why do I always defend small

businesses by the way

because small businesses

have fixed

um what is what is the word fixed

channels of exchange usually in some

small community there's like a

restaurant and people go to the

restaurant to eat

and it's almost like it becomes defined

by use value because

the channel of exchange becomes socially

you know

instantiated

organized and it it doesn't

rise to the level of being a form of

capital

that can reproduce itself as a chain

restaurant for example when it becomes a

chain restaurant it's not a small

business anymore right

so

um

so so Marx for him the most advanced

form of private property

is capital

because capital is a form of private

property which just exists to produce

more private property right it's not a

specific form of private property it's

an abstracted form of private property

now this is one of the most important

parts right so the Transcendence of this

self estrangement this alienation which

is the foundation of capital and labor

and private property which is a form of

self-estrangement

follows the same course as

self-estrangement private property is

first considered only in its objective

aspect

but nevertheless with labor as its

Essence so what does Marx mean by this

he gives examples

its form of existence is capital private

property

which is to be annuled as such

so this is kind of I guess I would

interpret this like when leftists just

say abolish capitalism

Marx is saying this is a really

primitive understanding of how private

property actually becomes sublated

because it's only considered in its

objective aspect

with labor as its essence

but it's not considered in its

subjective aspect

so

it then takes the form of people like

proton who just say we want to annul

Capital right and just like how left to

say abolish capitalism

or in the obverse Marx talks about how

they're understanding the Transcendence

of private property

as a particular form of Labor labor

level down fragmented and therefore

unfree

um sorry private property they're

understanding private property as a

particular form of Labor

but uh let's say uh uh

um a disorganized form of Labor right

and this is considered

the source of private properties

perniciousness

of its existence and estrangement from

Men

so Marx is saying there's another way of

looking at it where

you know the fragmented unfree and

leveled down nature of Labor

is actually the reason for

the alienation that that private

property creates

so on the one hand you have someone like

broadon who just says we just need to

get rid of capital right

so they're understanding private

property only in its objective aspect

and then

you just have to abolish that objective

aspect or you're understanding only in

terms of Labor there's a specific type

of Labor that we have

and that's the source of why private

property is a problem

so to solve that so Mark says for

instance Fourier like the physiocrats

conceived agricultural labor

to be at least the exemplary type right

whereas Saint Simon declares industrial

labor as such is the essence and

accordingly aspires to the exclusive

rule of industrialists and the

Improvement of the workers conditions

so there you go

so

they're basically saying like

the way labor is organized is a source

of the problem of private property so we

need to organize labor in this way

the rule of the industrialists

to solve the problem of private property

that's Saint Simone for a year we'll say

the same thing but for agricultural

labor for example so this is these are

two sides of the same coin right either

abolish capitalism or

let's um just reorganize our society so

either the destruction of the anarchists

or the designs of the utopians right

so then finally Mark says Communism

movement of Communism is the positive

expression of annulled private property

at first as universal private property

so we're going to get into what most

people think of as communism right

Marx is saying

that all of these just take private

property in a one-sided and negative way

only communism in general represents the

positive expression of private property

annulled

at first as the universal private

property so this is like the government

owning everything or everything becomes

public private property or everything

becomes collectivized

by embracing this relation as a whole

rather than the one-sided

wow I didn't see that thank you Amira

for the five appreciate you man I didn't

see that at first but thank you man

um so instead of the one-sided way of

just saying okay get rid of capital or

uh let's just organize agricultural

labor or industrial labor in some kind

of way industrial or agricultural way

communism looks at it from the

perspective of the whole right

we need to change private property as

such

by abolishing it

so Universal private property basically

and Marx has a pretty devastating

critique

of this kind of communism

so in its first form it's only a

generalization and consummation of

private property

it appears in a two-fold form on the one

hand the Dominion of material property

bulks so large that it wants to destroy

everything which is not capable of being

possessed by all as private property

um

it wants to disregard talent in an

arbitrary manner so this is a pretty

common anti-communist critique Marx is

acknowledging as legitimate he's saying

at first you know

in the beginning stages of understanding

what communism is yeah it's like

whatever we can't possess universally

this is almost like iron Rand right I'm

not even kidding this is literally like

iron Rand what he's saying like um

the Communists uh

uh want to destroy all the things we

can't collectivize

and Destroy unique individual talents

and unique individuated forms of wealth

that you know specifically gifted

individuals earn yada yada because we

can't collectivize it and out of envy

and spite we have to make everyone it's

what Winston Churchill said

um everyone is equally poor and equally

miserable right

um for it the sole purpose of life and

existence is direct physical possession

so this is like the reign of envy that

Marx is talking about here

the category of the worker is not done

away with but extended to all men

the relationship of private property

persists as a relationship of the

community to the world of things finally

this movement of opposing Universal

private property to private property

binds expression in the brutish form of

opposed opposition to marriage

certainly a form of exclusive private

property

a community of women so this is like a

darker aspect

um Marx is describing this vulgar

communism

the one that most people that pops up in

most people's heads he's saying even

marriage is done away with and women are

shared

and it's interesting because look at the

cuckold shit that's going on right now

right in which a woman becomes a piece

of communal and common property

it may be said that this idea of a

community of women gives away the secret

of this as yet completely crude and

thoughtless communism because just as a

woman passes from Marriage to General

prostitution

um so the entire world of wealth passes

from the relationship of exclusive

marriage with the owner of private

property to a state of universal

prostitution with the community so this

is a really devastating critique

of Twitter communism the communism

that's popular on Twitter because Marx

is saying for example

it's analogous to like critiquing when

in your critique of marriage of okay

marriage

uh let's say is oppressive to women

therefore women instead of being the

property of one man

should be the property of all

right

so you go from Marriage to General

prostitution of course General

prostitution is much worse right

but Marx and Engels in the manifesto

will Clearly say things like you're

accusing us of this but it's you who

think of women as property in the first

place we don't want women to be private

or public property we just want women to

be able to be human beings

clap for feminist marks right

but no seriously that is actually

what he's saying here

and he's saying that's analogous to the

question of property it's not that we

want to turn everything into Universal

Property

we want to annual private property as

such we don't want to make Universal

private property

the problem is the alienation inherent

in private property itself and Marx is

saying the on the

um the sexual implication of crude

communism

is like a hermeneutic to really simplify

the essence of why it's a problem

so this type of Communism since it

negates the personality of man in every

sphere

this is Marx not Ayn Rand

is but The Logical expression of private

property which is this negation General

Envy constituting itself as a power

is the disguise in which greed

re-establishes itself and satisfies

itself only in another

the thought of every piece of private

property as such is at least turned

against wealthier private property in

the form of envy and the urge to reduce

things to a common level so that this

envy and urge even constitutes the

essence of competition

so all that eat the rich stuff and um

whatever well marks has a bone to pick

with this the understanding of Communism

in terms of Envy oh I can't believe that

person has a Lamborghini and a yacht

well this is what Marx is critiquing

right here he's critiquing

um

this crude communist

principle of envy

rude communism

is only the culmination of this envy and

of this leveling down proceeding from

the preconceived minimum

it has a definite limited standard how

little this annulment of private

property is really an appropriation is

in fact proved by the abstract negation

of the entire world of culture and

civilization the regression to the

unnatural Simplicity of the poor and

crude man who has few needs and has not

only failed to go beyond private

property but has not yet even reached it

foreign

communist you can think of if we

understand communism in terms of what

Twitter says it is

but because he's he's really attacking

his communist contemporaries at this

time in a really brilliant way and in a

way Iron Rand couldn't even have the

rigor and sophistication to think of

the biggest critique of Communism was

none other than Marx himself

should always keep that in mind

the community is only a community of

Labor

and a quality of wages paid out by the

communal Capital by the community as the

universal capitalist so instead of

having an uh you know capitalist you

just have the community turn into the

universal capitalist this is how most

Maga people think of Communism they

think of Communism in terms of crude

communism

isn't it isn't it interesting like what

Marx is describing as crude communism is

how most working-class people

think of communism

in general our job is to explain to them

that Marxism means something very

different than crude communism right

both sides of this relationship are

raised to an imagined universality labor

as a category in which every person is

placed and capital as the acknowledged

universality and power of the community

I mean this is literally like a critique

of Hassan piker if you think about it oh

yeah Jeff Bezos all of your wealth comes

from us

the Starbucks workers are the reason

Starbucks is even wealthy this is

literally crude communism right

capital is ignite is the acknowledged

universality and power of the community

in the approach to women as the spoil

and the handmade of communal lust is

expressed the infinite degradation in

which man exists for himself

or the secret of this approach has its

unambiguous decisive plane and undes

undisguised expression and the relation

of man to women

okay this one is um

I don't have time to explain this I

can't explain it I mean I I can explain

it I don't have time because it's really

complicated but it's and it's a it's

probably one of the most beautiful

passages in this entire thing so please

go read it yourself and

I'm just gonna focus on

focus on uh

the relevant stuff

so the first positive annulments of

private property crude communism is

merely a manifestation of the vileness

of private property

which wants to set itself up as the

positive Community system

that's why communism sorry that's why

capitalism seems like it's

become communistic with the great reset

and how the government as the caller in

just a alluded to is trying to take

control of everything because it's just

capitalism

because crude communism is just a

manifestation of the vileness of private

property

you see where you see what this means

like the reason it seems like

capitalists are now becoming Communists

and our society is

I guess becoming uh communist

um

according this is what conservatives

said

Marx is describing that right here

because the vileness of private property

eventually expresses itself

or sets itself sets itself up as the pot

as a positive Community system

um

so uh

so it has not yet grasped the positive

essence of private property and just as

little the human nature of need it

remains captive to infected by it

it grasped its concept

not its Essence so this is when it's

only political in nature

so as the real appropriation of the

human Essence by and for man

communism is a complete return of man to

himself as a social being

return accomplished consciously and

embracing the entire wealth of previous

development this is in contrast to crude

communism

this communism has fully developed

naturalism equals humanism

and has fully developed humanism equals

naturalism it is the genuine resolution

of the conflict between man and nature

and between man and man the true

resolution of The Strife between

existence and Essence between objection

and self-confirmation between freedom

and necessity between the individual and

the species it's the riddle of History

solved and it knows itself to be

his solution

okay for time reasons

we're going to conveniently leave it

there okay but I'm going to remark on

that so what Marx is describing is

communism

is not what most people think of which

is just a universalized private property

but a kind of resolution of the

contradiction between the individual and

the whole

or between object objectification

and

um

sorry objectification and the uh active

what did he say again

self-confirmation is how we put it okay

between objectification and

self-confirmation like imminent

um

imminent uh

being I would say right

so there's a contradiction posed by

private property and all communism means

is just the genuine resolution of that

contradiction it doesn't look a specific

type of way

it's an acknowledgment it's the science

of this contradiction and it resolves

this contradiction by acknowledging for

example

both the individual and the communal

whole rather than just one or the other

right

so instead of a universal form of

private property just impose on everyone

it means the free development of each

individual to the fullest extent of

their capacity

in a kind of organic harmony with the

interests of the whole

which sounds nice right and okay what

does that look like how does that happen

well that that's a that's that's a

matter of concrete time and place right

but this is just the general

what is communism that's what it is

um

and Marx describes that in terms of a

communist society as free association

it's something called free association

so it's not um it's not universalized

private property it's not where

everything becomes collectivized and

communalized

it's it's a much more fundamental

um

return of man to himself

so it's not your things get taken away

and they get owned by the community it's

Humanity's fullest potentials

can be Unleashed

because a human principle Reigns

or a human reality Reigns and instead of

the abstraction and alienation that is

private property because remember for

Marx private property is not okay you

own something to use it at the expense

of others yeah that's fine there's

nothing wrong with that it's

something that is alien and has no human

quality no human use just money for

money's own sake right

that's the fullest developed form of

private property according to Marx

because for Mark's private property is

that it's a it's just this form of

alienation

um from Humanity the fact that people

will own things at the expense of others

is not a problem right

of course I mean I'll have my own

toothbrush you have your own fucking

toothbrush I have my own Farm you have

your own fucking farm right

so

I wish I could talk more about this but

I really don't have time

but I hope you guys enjoyed the stream I

told you it was gonna be a short one

well hopefully a longer stream tomorrow

but I enjoyed today's stream hope you

guys did too

um bye guys

bye-bye see you guys later