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out spoken about you know like

the support for like

ukraine and other you know disastrous you know foreign policies i think you are seeing a growing kind of and

nw

there's been pushback from

even some people on the left you know that are ohble

the rights you know too isolationist or whatever but there does seem to be a growing

um

did they kick him out to put house in no my

now

why should the why should the communist party tail the democratic party

the communist party should support the dams because on this really any it's really easy

n i can't hear anything dude ut the fuck up and let him talk

blasted

but he's as

like i said on basically any issue worker rights

you'll see that dams are a little bit to the left of republicans you talk about minimum wages you talk about union power

thems are going to do a little bit better

easy

ok so but why does that mean that the communist party should support the democrats

because we've seen if you want to look at like the most powerful socialist movement has been in the last forty fifty years andentrison to the democrats

what are you going to apose what examples what examples can you give of that

sure there are more people in d s a in congress today than have been in congress and a third party ever

yeah i i'm aware of the d s a is growth but i'm not sure what relation the d sa should have to the communist party or what relation does that have to a communist party i mean there's plenty of social democratic parties in europe

that doesn't make them communists

sure i mean so

i guess there's two parts of this one probably i don't know what you personally believe has but

unless you believe in like

a you know an armed revolution or something

the path to socialism that remains is a sort of permanent reform is the term that the swedish types use

and a lot of like d s a or c p s a types like the term

nonreformist reform

with the idea that you're sort of like cranking

society to the left you're trying to give workers a little bit more power

give like the average person a little bit more power make it harder and harder for the risch to fuck people over

yet but the problem with that is that there are qualitative ruptures

that this allow a steady path of progress or reform

a for example i mean there was a period in which the social democrats were in power

throughout well not necessarily fully in power but they enjoyed great power

and then they were completely unable to for example stop the rise of fascism in both italy and in germany

so there comes a point of a kind of qualitative

moment in which

there is a populistic

sentiment against a for example socialist bureaucracy or social democratic bureaucracy

how can that be reconciled within the framework of a

permanent path of

you know progress or reform

sure so

i guess i just note historically

the sock thems didn't have anywhere near close like absolute or even strong majority control of germany

i want to say the sock ms were getting twenty five percent near the end of the german republic and the commies were getting like

fifteen

and the nazi party was also getting about

m like

that that added up together percent

m so like the far right and like the two left parties were roughly evenly matched

which meant that the centrists were mostly like liberals who inclined towards the right and monarchists

m it was like it was pretty easy if you look at studies on like the elites of germany

to makt

i think i have this one study forty five percent

of german elites sided with the nazi party

so this wasn't like a thoroughly socked down society

well i'm aware i'm just using it as an example because

the social democrats within germany

did enjoy tremen i mean a relative tremendous success in being able to actually integrate with the german establishment and become a more or less legitimate party within germany

and i'm not saying they controlled most of germany but

they were probably the largest mass popular movement at the time i think it might be fair to say that in terms of like

the extent to which they were embedded within german civil society and were able to mobilize different sectors of german the german people in german society

but

when the when this decisive moment of the breakdown of the system came

they came to be associated with the establishment for the average german person and

that's why i kind of reject the idea that if the communist party joined with the social democrats and i know there's that's a complicated issue i don't want to get into it because there's another side to that story

where the social democrats were cracking down hard on the communists and rejecting proposals for an alliance but i don't want to get into the nitty gritty of that let's just

we let's just entertain the official story right let's just entertain the official story for sake of debate

t who's who's to say that who's this who's to say the communist party

would have been able to enjoy the support that it did

if it had simply

you know went along with the social democrats

o who because you know people have noted that many of the people who were supporting the communists

were people who would have otherwise supported the nazis

because of that dissatisfaction of the social democrats

i mean so i

you said you didn't want to geto the history i don't know how deep you want to get in

but

uh i guess

one thing i'd like want to a if we're going to cap it here is the

three arrows

recently put out or maybe a month ago put out an episode on how weak

the legal structure of the vimar republic was

that like basically after they they did the quote unquote sokdem revolution or like

was it nine hundred eightd revolution

i

it the legal structure was so weak that most of the judges were still like monarchist judges inherited from the old germany the old reactionary german

um

so like i guess what he points out is that

when they created it was already sort of

doomed to failure

why i don't think that's necessarily true because if you have if you have an understanding of politics where

there's a special relationship between political power and mass movements and people

that fundamentally bypasses institutions

i don't necessarily i think these kinds of details

i mean i've seen i've seen so many explanations for why specifically it was the nazis were able to come to power i mean but you a kind of demotic element is always missing right

i'm i'm you have to understand i'm a maoist and i'm saying i'm a maoist because i share mao's belief that

if you can unite political power with the masses with people

institutions are no problem you can basically move mountains and sure from the perspective of an analysis there's a fundamental failure on part of the social democrats

to actually

successfully

maintain the loyalty of the german people

i think we gardless of the judges that were

still whatever i mean there was an inability for them

to actually

get the support of the german people

sure so

i guess i'm going to pivot a bit

to talking about these things more abstractly rather than the context of germany because it makes it easier

talk about it without getting way into the nitty gret

um

so

the idea of like maoist and leninist revolutions demands a mass politics where great masses of people are willing to vote revolt

join an armed revolution

no ah

yeah i mean i you if you reala know a very a very small minority of people are actually going to participate in revolts

with the passive support of the majority

i mean i think that so during the russian civil war roughly ten percent of people died

yeah like these were not might but wasn't the majority of those weren't the majority of casualties owed to things like famine and disease

a big junk were yeah but like soldiers i want to say made up like four percent of the population during the active phase of the war

coort you said forty percent

four

yeah like so butre yeah the mean theres there is universal conscription

force forcible conscription

on both sides

m

you know

and then there was also

yeah so i mean

you the majority of people are not and then also that's a civil war that's after the revolution so it's not necessarily comparable

yeh

i'm just going to pull up a let in quoe

because this is something i was literally writing about actually

in onineteen thirteen

when lenin defined the term revolutionary situation

he gave three reasons why russia was in a revolutionary situation

one

people in russia had a very low quality of life which was inconsistent with the rising productivity of its capital

two is that it had a rising class consciousness and again its quality of life was too low

and three the upper classes cannot

rule and govern in the old way

and he expands on this in another nine hundred fifteen article i don't have up at the moment but

in both of them the point that he's making is that

you need great masses of people

who are

really really dissatisfied with their their lot know i think i think that's one leting quotes about just to just a capit

talks out

intensified oppression starvation poverty lack of rights and humiliation

are talking

nineteen thirteen russia

so starvation here is literal

yeah i understand but i think um a few things

that

he's not necessarily saying that the majority of people are going to participate in a revolution he's rather talking about the circumstances that would make

a revol mae that that would give fertile ground

to the likelihood of a revolution now it's very important to understand

lenon's perspective here

lennon is not saying that this this this is going to make

you know this means we can just initiate a revolution voluntarily because the conditions are proper

lenin is quite literally predicting a revolution is going to happen regardless of what he and his his

his comrades do

and what lenin's perspective is that

is that the bolseviks have a unique opportunity to

lead this revolution or at least influence the terms

acquire hegemony over this revolution

soad the for lenin the revolutions and inevitability

and then roughly speaking in abstract terms i think the criteria lenin gave

for

that period of time because if you're a marxist all he's talking about is a contradiction between the relations of production and the forces of production broadly speaking

that apply that holds true for today

probably more than any other period

you know in the post war period

so

by post war i mean post world war two

so in the west i mean so i mean

people don't literally have to be starving but there does need to be a drastic divergence between what people's expectations

for a standard of living are and what the actual standard of living is

and i don't i don't necessarily think it has to go to the point of

starvation although with food shortages on the horizon look

right yes so the reason i was mentioning literal starvation is

when we look at the history of rich democracies how many revolutions have there been

none when was the last social successful socialst revolution of rich democracy

right never happened

yeah

and so the point that a lot of reformist theorists wright you know there's there have been reformist writers since bernstein

they write that

workers

as much as we might hate to admit it have more to lose than their chains

they quite literally own things

and have wages high enough

that joining an armed revolution represents a real threat to like their quality of life

in a way that someone on the verge of starvation doesn't have

to think so i

i don't think the goal for marxis is to try and provoke

any

first of all

they're not not only are they not trying to provoke an armed revolution

they're not trying to provoke any kind of revolution whatsoever

the goal rather is to maintain a revolutionary position what that means is basically you never sell out to the establishment

like the social democrats did on the eve of the first world war and that's what i think is really lacking from that perspective

is that you're not you're not talking about a few isolated cases of a rich democracy you're talking about an international system

basically ands probably heard this before it's an international system of imperialism

and there is a relationship between the ruling class for example within

be democratic countries

and

the imperialists the

system that is extended abroad now i'm what i'm saying holds like pretty much

true for lenin's time in a really precise way i guess today is a little more complicated

but

there is a material relation s

on the political front that means a gradual

yeah

so

you and i agree

that according to like lenin and lenin's you know derive theories like maoism

um

that a revolutionary situation is necessary for revolution in the nine

he literally sailed

to the marxist it is indisputable that revolution is impossible without a revolutionary situation like quote unquote but so we both agree rights but the circumstances

is that there is no revolutionary situation in modern rich democracies

that path

as much as we might hate to admit it

it's closed

no i still

you see

this is lacking the global perspective

now in a vacuum is it likely that theres a revolutionary situation in a rich democracy

no but when you factor into the global situation and especially the things like the energy crisis within europe

the increasing level of economic instability and polarization within the united states

i mean some i think some kind of social revolution as broadly

a as

you can take that as broadly as you want

is inevitable in the united states and in europe

in this these unprecedented times

do do i think that's going to like follow some stereotypical

storming of the winter palace no but a broad social revolution as in

a breakdown of the current prevailing institutions and their replacement by new ones

i

a you know

circumstances of extreme political instability

an inability for the old paradigms of social organization

and the organization of society to

actually adjust to the changes in the forces of production i think these things are already happening

it's not it's not necessarily inevitably going to be like this

i mean it's not likely to be any kind of communist revolution

this rate

im

as a matter of fact i'm not even sure if it's so much revolution as much as it's like civil war like general breakdown

and instability not necessarily

in order for there to be a revolution in like that sense there has to be political forces primed

to unify the country in in a new way which i don't think any forces

within the united states exist

to do so

i think you're severely underestimating the extent to which the international situation

has weakened

the foundations of like this permanent

stability that appears to exist

in the advanced western countries

i mean i think you know civil war is possible i think it's fairly unlikely

but

in general the question is if civil war did break out or if some sort of rupture some sort of attempt at civil war did break out

what position

do you want

lefty is the be in

do you want them to be in the position of like a bunch of unempowered third parties all squabbling amongst themselves over who the real c p usa is

or do you want them to have at least some hold on the reins of power some infiltration into the insistions of power

like

i think the answer is obvious but i think from square one the premise that the political subject as far as communists are concerned is going to be defined by people's ideologies

or even that

politics is defined by defined by a clash of values and differing values and ideologies

i think this is all beginning from a false premise

i don't really recognize leftys as a

considerable

political subject

in the first place i think that

because i'm a marxist and this is a

i guess that like the basic view marxis have that

the relations of production the politics is downstream from the relations of production basically

i think things like leftis and rightis i mean all that is

extremely tenuous that there's constant political realignments that have happened in the history of this country alone

since the civil war like the first civil war

so i don't really think that's like a

i mean what is a leftist i mean leftist today

are

take assuming foreign policy positions that the neo conservatives of the bush era were assuming so it's like

that just seems like a really tenuous and unreliable

way of

of dividing people's

dividing like masses basically

sure so

i get where this is coming from like the i agree to some degree with the marxist line

that

class struggle

is the primary mover the primary drive of like

struggle in general of history

but one of things like

what i guess i'm trying to outline is that we are in a historically unprecedented situation

we are in a situation where revolution is no longer feasible at least of the old kind

right so all the old models predicated on armed socialst revolution

those

don't work in a way that we'd want them to you can't just say do as lenon did do as maw did

because we don't live as mclennon did we don't live as mal did

you know recognize material condiitsion

it's the second thing that sort of unprecedented

is what i was trying to allude to earlier the workers have more to lose in their change

chains

and that results in a very different kind of class dynamic

workers now are not so desperately poor that the only thing they can think of is scrabbling for economic gains

instead whatll we've increasingly seen that the term scientists like to uses is post materialist

that for better and for worse

people are

way more consumed with cultural conflicts

over like

you know trans rights abortion rights feminism so on

um

and we have to recognize that we can't just say that we want things to go back to the mass politics of the nineteen twenti s and ignore the material reality of earth

there's this quote

from j a cohen writing in one thousand nine hundred five

who says that history has shredded

some orthodox marxist predictions

because the proletariat for a while did grow larger and stronger but it never became the immense majority

and it has now been reduced and divided by increasing technological sophistication

of capitalist production

and we expect that to expand right like the truly destitute like a deeply impoverished revolutionary working class is gone

it's not like fifty percent of the population it's not eighty percent

like even manufacturing workers are something a twenty percent of the population

we have to readjust our socialist theory

to the fact that we live in a world totally unlike

what the people back then were writing about

well i'm i'm the first person i mean that i've gotten in a lot of trouble for pointing out the fact that we're not living in the time of classical marxism or even in the time of lenin

but the conclusions you draw from that are the ones that precisely have you

earned me ire among these same progressive socialists

and i assume you would associate yourself with

but anyway i think what we're dealing with here is kind of too broad of narratives

so to begin with the

trying to remember the first thing you said with the you were asking about thems right and so said the there's something i wanted to say give me a second to remember the first thing you said you se you were talking about you

what was that exactly the first thing before that you had a second part where you're talking about the rising standard of living of workers and marxist predictions and then what were th the first thing you're talking about again

it was talk about the closing of the revolutiony situation rising standard of living

yeahh yayeah yeah yeah yeah so as far as that's concerned i think what you're not taking into account i think it's an overly simplistic narrative that

workers have gone basically too rich and have gont too comfortable

and basically now we're going to be focusing on cultural issues i think the first example i would have to point out to completely

i guess shatter that view would be

things like boco haram in nigeria which is defined explicit nigeria's not

it nearly as rich as the united states

that's precisely my point boko haram is literally saying

that women's education is horam it's forbidden

so it's a it's something organized around cultural issues

and yet these people are coming from an extreme situation of desperation and poverty at least compared to the united states

so the prevalence of culture and then it's not to mention the things like the nine heenred seventy nine iranian revolution

i mean just you could all over the world you find this that

the culture war is by no means explicable in terms of people being too comfortable or too privileged

that's that's the point i was trying to make

the second point i would like to make

a with regard to that is that

i think youre also not taking into account that

i mean

if if you can give people a button a two buttons to press

to you know blow up the entire system or maintain a pretty steady comfortable standard of living

obviously they're going to choose the second button and that's kind of

the assumption you're making here is that

this is the choice people are faced with and so operating under as sumption like ah obviously people

aren't want to enga they're not going to engage in this like dramatic revolution they're going to want to keep their standard of living

the problem is that the forces and factors which sustain that

familiar standard of living

are so drastically divorced

from the choices of everyday people in other words we're talking about a basic separation

between individuals and the real means of production

right

for example look at things like the price of energy

the price i mean ph yeah people want to have low gas prices

but look how much that's outside of their hands they can literally do nothing about that they can do nothing about

the rising costs of gas the rising costs of food

they're completely powerless to change the shortages

that are on the store shelves much like soviet citizens were it powerless to change

that you know shortages of bread and the shortages of food on their own shelves i mean we have just as much of a relation to what happens

as far as the supply chains

leading to i mean we probably have less of a relation if i'm going to be honest

to wal mart

as in a centrally planned socialist system

so all of these what i'm trying to say is that all these forces are very drastically outside of the

like

spear of being able to make decisions

for ordinary people it's not it's not as though like people have this proverbial

lot of land and they just have their own farmsteads

and it's like ok give up your farmsteads and take up the gun and go fight

no i mean

like the our economy is so immensely socialized

so immensely interconnected and so immensely driven by outside factors

the question of

for example a revolutionary situation all i mean by that is a breakdown

of the prevailing political institutions including circumstances of civil war

actually revolutionary is probably not a good word because revolution entails like a replacement of that somehow but

that's not going to be decided according to political agents or political subjects

that's going to be us i mean look if there's no food on the shelves

and people can't

you know fill their tanks they can't fill their cars with gas

i can guarantee there will be a breakdown of social order

in any western country it's just a fact

but the problem is that those are very likely possibilities in this kind of new

circumstances that we're entering into

so

but but i think also let's let me you're kind of straw manning me to begin with though because as far as like what

actually what a revolution actually is i think you're just kind of straw manning me with this assumption that it's like this

you know this adventurous romantic dramatic event where we just like

oh i want my values to be enforced i'm going to take up the gun

no revolutions are like

tiny moments

within a like much broader

moving there's so much like

bigger moving pieces and so much

bigger and more intricate processes

that

are happening in the background

like in comparison to this like one singular

comparatively even comparatively trivial event that is a revolution

and that's why like if you look at us communist right here we call ourselves communists at least

we're not just saying oh yeah don't vote dems

a you know we're going to take up arms for revolution we're saying things like

we need to embed ourselves within the maga movement we need to go to the fertile soil not out of which a revolution we're going to command people to

throw themselves at a revolution but

out of which a independent party of the working class can be built and can be made

so and then and then so it's like speak so we kind of brought up three things

y first is whether post materialism is real

and

the fact that very poor countries and very religious cultures are also deeply conservative

i don't think it's a strong counterargument to the post materialist thesis

which holds that

as countries get really high income

it's not necessarily that cultural like impulses are getting stronger

it's that two things are happening one economic impulses are getting way way weaker

people are way less driven by the need to scrabble for a better life because their life better life is already partially here

um

so one of the key things that people point to on that

is

what's called education polarization

i'm sending you this article

wait why can't i send you some

you he block

just for the record i'm not going to read it so let's just

yh ok well i posted it in shat

um

and it's this article from picketti and a few other folks

showing how

the percent of people who vote left

who are educated

has dramatically shifted between the sixties and today

in oneousand nine hundred sixty they say across rich countries

the vote share of the left was minus sixteen percent

among educated people college educated

meaning the right got more votes in the left sixty percent more votes

but now

in twenty sixteen

it's almost plus twelve meaning again at the left gets like plus twelve percent more among college educateds

that's new

we're in totally uncharged territory with that

and the one theory for why that works is post materialism

people care about cultural issues

uneducate people tend to be more conservative educate people tend to be

less conservative

and so now we're seeing a realignment from economic issues towards economic and social issues

where left parties aren't just left on economics

that're also really left on economic issues we've seen a huge realignment there in virtually every country in the rich world

um

so

like the future for the left for better and worse

is the socially progressive

like the

that the fact is that

when we look here so

that's the first thing i want to talk about i'll talk about that bit the bit the whole like megacomnunism thing at the second

the second study i want the post was the

this article kellnitsk

you can look at this graph you know you don't have to read it but here's a graph

of

countries that had a revolution in a given year versus how rich they were

there hasn't been

in databases of revolution

a single country with a g d pper capita above the fifteen hundreds below the hasnen a country in like the twenty thousand and above it's hod a proper revolution

it really does seem like high incomes really buffer against revolution

um

so yeah maybe there will be a civil war but it will likely be a lot smaller lot more less violent than the ones we've seen in the past

so again for better and worse

the like roads forward to like mass change

does not include the armed socialist revolution

of like the nineteen tens the nineteen twenties the maoist of the nineteen forties and fift

it just isn't there anymore that's not a question of whether we like it or not it's not some voluntary choice

all this is mechanistic just like a revolutionary situation

is an objective fact

about the the economy and our social relations within

and of the subjective forces of communism

doesn't matter how subjectively powerful we are because economic conditions for a revolution just aren't there anymore

a and that brings us to the third point you were talking about magakammism the need to like infiltrate and make them

socialist

and on this one like

the numbers and behavior

the numbers within the republican party of people who are like genuinely aconomically left

just aren't there for this kind of movement to exist pew has pew research which does some really excellent polling probably some the best polling the game

has a typology study again you don't have to read it but i'll post you a pretty graph

they come in the wrong page

they define

the us

into

uh what is the seven

seven groups

and one of them

the quote quote populist right

is the one that you're trying to look for

they make up eleven percent of the voting public and eighteen percent of the republican party

they are a minority and both like a weak minority

ah

those are the only group when you ask republicans hate you want to increase taxes on the rich that's the only group that answers yes on majority

eighteen percent of the republican party

it just isn't there the numbers just aren't there

the facts are that like if you want economic left of views you have to look

in the democratic party

you have to look at like the most educated and socially progressive people

i like

you know i do't you know if this all works if the maga movement all works you turn them into comedies or whatever all for

it just doesn't seem like there's a numbers for it right now and i'm based on the trends that exist it's not going to

like it's not simple

this is also sort of mechanistics

low education

deeply religious people are not going to support on mass like economic left and social left values

or even just economic left value

all right so yeah again there's three things and i think the last thing you said is related to the first so all included there

um

the reason why

an educated people and more conservative whatever religious people

can in fact to get on board with a communist program

is proven by the very same history you cited that

in the nine hunenred sixti s or whatever the on nine hundred fifties

um

college education was a proxy for being more right wing

and

there's a reason for that

that isn't because people have become more wealthy compared to the past

it's because the nature of what the left is has changed from representing the interests of the working class and by the working class i mean people who

derive their means of subsistence from some kind of productive labor some kind of

like le like

un i know skilled and unskilled are historically relative but

relatively unskilled labor

you know right out of high school labor

not in professional or managerial positions that's the working class historically speaking at least

the left has changed its base

from

the working class

to college students and to professionals and to managerials and people who pretty much

think for a living

the working class has never

thought

for a living

the in kansas was a hotbed of

like

i guess left wing quote unquote political radicalism a hundred years ago

the working class base that was behind that weren't people who were like super educated about left wing issues or anything

they were salt of the earth rural people probably extremely religious

and yet they were participating in this kind of

radical leftist cotquote

the political movements

because it was their because it was both in their immediate material interests

but more fundamentally because it related to them on a lever

on a level deeper than

superficial

ideological values contrived

from institutional

m education

so i think what you're saying that the post materialism thing that you're talking about

that's not

that's not an indication that

because people have goneen richer it has made the pot you know it's

necessarily changed anything about who the revolutionary subject is

it's more that there has been a political realignment now the reason for that political realignment i have to spay yeah but i let you you know no what happened is that i let you speak so you're going to let me speak

so number two you can you just write a donresre so number two is that in rich countries

you're saying that there's never been a revolution in a rich country and you're measuring that for some reason by g d p

when all you could really do is look at it and say ok what is the reason for that it's probably because

that

relative level of poverty is a proxy for a lack of institutional stability

and political stability

and that begs the question what is the foundation for the political stability

that actually is that because people are wealthy or is there something more fundamental that's the reason for that

well i think when you take into account these extremely strong

the sensitive points underlying our system like

our dependence on energy prices and our dependence on the global

food prices and things like that he'se extremely small

sensitive points that can somehow like blow up the entire system and allow it all to unravel

you're not taking into account how things like that have emerged

you're saying yes there's never been a revolution in a rich country in history

sure

but is that because

revolutions can't happen in rich countries or is that because historically speaking

poverty has just been a proxy

for some kind of political more specifically institutional

instability

now as far as the institutional instability in the united states i'm going to wrap the number two up really quick

that close relationship between the institutions and the civil society that has been the glue of

political stability and social stability

i mean that's breaking down you're seeing it

coming from the mainstream media talking about the lack of trust and institutions

the whole thing with covert when people didn't trust anything

the scientists were saying the proliferation of so called fake news there's a complete breakdown is also january sixth where people doubted the results

of the when we can't talk about that on you tube but people doubt of the results of the election

so all those telltale signs at the essential level i think are there

now finally for the third thing

you are again

engaging in an error that i referred to before where you're basically trying to define people's positions on the basis of some kind of like abstract political spectrum

you know political compass values

this is something i actually addressed in my maga communism substack which is is the basis of political difference

based on differing opinions and different values do you just survey people like oh

should we tax the rich more and then you're going to define them as populist or not on that basis no you're going to define people's populism

not on the basis of how they're going to receive these like extremely loaded

signifiers that actually already tend to be like associated with

certain political factions

you're going to it's going to be defined by people's willingness to defy the institutions that rule over them

not in the name of any values or any kind of

ideology but

the very premises and the very basis

of the dissemination

of information ideologies and values it's not about

the policy positions that's the policy positions that people are in favor of

are extremely arbitrary they are in no way essential

in arriving at like the actual basis of why they have the political position that they do

politics is about power

it's not about the power it's not about how you want to exercise power what you want to do with that power

it's about the actual realities of who has power

and who doesn't that's actually what politics is about

so and of course that's underlined by

the social class element

so when you're saying like oh only eleven percent of republicans

are populaoce

i mean if you talk to anyone who lives in the midwest they would laugh at you for such a claim

eleven percent of the maga people are republicans are populius

and that's because when you ask them do you want to tax the rich something they're going to associate with bernie and a o c

people who they hate for obvious reasons and who they associate with their class enemies

of course you're not going to be able to come to a

of course you're not going to be able to appreciate the vast level of populsm that permeates

the republican party

but maybe if you change your wording and ask different questions like hey do you think our government

is currently captured by special interest do you think the people do you think like the media

is not telling the truth about what's going on in ukraine do you think that

for example our government isn't a real democracy and the whole thing is rigged

that's probably how you're going to be able to measure things like people's populism not

not not like snippets ofor fuckings like

policy signifiers that are already associated with the democratic socialists

new york

he was realdly he

oh i need to butt in for a second

and just let you guys know that i'm going to have to steal him in about thirty minutes because we have a a time slot to go give our groc or

to go pick up our groceries

so you've got about thirty more minutes with them ok

okay

wt this a senor houpe

ah

it's true i'm a couck and i'm whipped because i like to eat food to go get it faths weapons and batsters and in rocking m weapons

so i'm going to condense this down to the populaus otherwise this is going to be monologue s monologue

so

on the polling one

um

i'm posting a graph in the general chat

from you

you don't got to look at it has but

you know if you want to actually if i seems like you're trying to take this pretty seriously i think it's worth looking at

a

when you ask people

quote

business corporations make too much profit

the only group

that gets more than twenty five percent support among the right is the so called qunquote populist right

but i would i would respond the same way

well sure but what i'm saying is if you look at dead i'm a populist and i would respon let me just go through this right

every single democratic group over seventy five percent say yes only one in four republican groups say yes

pew divides the population into nine groups

doing some fancy math called a pca

which i won't get into but

they say that only roughly one in five republicans agree

only one of five republican groups agree with the statement that business corporations make too much profit over seventy five percent what's the s ch for another one

sorry what's that

what what why does that matter

because

the rub like

conservative

economic values are very commonle says nothing to do with term that your audience should look up is fusionism

for better and for worse the right in this country and basically every other country

is fairly economically conservative

i am to that

because i don't think that they're making too much profit i want people to make more wealth and more profit sure i agree with let

then let's do another one

taxes on household incomes over four hundred thousand dollar i don't i want to i want to limit sense we are maga communist program

is to like eliminate taxes we don't want to increase taxes

what is your road to socialism how do you think that

empowering the mega rich

builds a more social surce because i think when you're s what both yeah what both of those snippets have in common

basic what you're trying to say is that ok we take the existing

the economic institutions that exist in our society

and we're just going to like suck more money out of them or like limit them more

and then give the transfer the wealth to more people rather than actually tap into the source of the creation of wealth

which is like butotom piss it's the fucking means of production

so when you ask me like what my position is

i don't want i don't i don't think corporations make too much profit i think what corporations are doing

is limiting the ability for the average american to make profit

and when he pitched that to an average conservative maga person

they're going to agree these are monopolies that are stifling the ability for us to have an opportunity

we're not pocket watchers who have a problem

that you know rich people have yachts and they have gucci bags and they have gold

sure we love well right we just think

that they're preventing

the little guy from having an opportunity at that

and that's the whole that's the actual cce the non populist position the establishment position is in fact one of de growth

it does want to roll back it does want to decrease wealth it does want to decrease

profits in general including for the average person

because that in that way it can consolidate

its institutional position

because this wild proliferation of wealth

creates the basis for rot counter counter hedemonic institutions for example peter teal

someone i don't agree with

but he's a billionaire because he's a billionaire he's allowed to start things like rumble

which are t which are challenging the monopoly of youtube and the other things

donald trump he was like a billionaire or something so he was able to fund his own campaign

so wealth is a dangerous thing in a lot of ways

from the perspective of the establishment

so

let me ask what you think

socialism is is it a means of production is it a mode of organizing

social

like economic relations

i don't i don't think socialism is a specific form of organization at all

i think it's about what a mode of production is

um

what ends it serves what are the ends of production

are those and social in nature or are they private

in nature are they like alien private and

abstract in nature as a production has some social relations

marks noted that a commodity can't exist it can't be profitable rs it serves one's use right

but yhat but what on but that that's a social relation what happens to be but that social relation happens to be defined

by an antisociality that is killing humanity that's oppressing humanity that's alienating humanity

according to mark

sure so one of the big

dealenating things that marx wants to do is abolish class

abolish the class of people who own capital

no no that's you're making it seem cism the man this is not sen this is not an action marx is advocating for this is an incidental result

of some inevitable forces of history

that marx is anticipating

how exactly do we expect giving mega billionaires more mega billions

to lead to a mode of production which abolishes billionaires

peter theel

isn't going to support

you're making an egalitarian post scarcity society i don't need him to to

because i first all not if he has enough power to make rumble if trump has enough power to run for president and i i think you're misunderstandingre saying a lot of i'min howver sdy ok i'm explaining to you the reasons why the establishment is trying to

put a cap on the creation of wealth

were very like self preservation

selfish reasons

i't not necessarily a riving normative judgment

to what i think about peter t i'm just more telling you why the establishment finds it dangerous and why they do support higher taxes

and yada yad yada because

it god for if peter teels bad god forbid some like

you know some redneck living in west virginia can do like a start up and get rich and then implement

you know i mean create his own counterheadsemonic institutions like an alex jones or something but regardless regardless what i'm trying to say

i mean o thatdance also hate well the path the pat to socialism is not the path to socialism is bought is going to the source of wealth

which basically means smashing the monopolies

and

implementing the equivalent

of some kind of land reform that's not necessarily redistribution of arable industrial sorry arable

agricultural land

but it is this kind of polverization of the existing capture of institutions by monopolies

and

basically giving people their own solid economic ground and space

to start off from

whether that's in the form of like socialst all there's not socialism right

when you look yes it is a series of socialism ok

all of them demand an end to class strugglek that is like so one of no no no introl socalism them demands an acceleration

so social a socialist under socialism a socialist political program and socialism as a mode of production are two entirely different things

a socialist political program is an intensification of the class struggle

which is going to participate in the long historical process

by which the capitalist motor production transitions into the socialist one

before that happens there's going to be a dictatorship of socialists

or communist and that's called the proletarian dictatorship

it's not going to create a socialist system through policy

it's rather going to

wage the class war at the reins of state power

to ensure the transition which is an inevitable historical transition one that we argue

has already occurred despite the fact that the political power is still in the hands of i mean just trying to ask it plainly ok

so you have two ways to argue for like the socialism that you're arguing for

one is that it ahieves socialist goals the policies you're doing lead to some social s goal n class abolition like trying to lead towards most abun trying to lead to social ner no

the other is that you're trying to argue that it advances the means of production

that like it building up

the means necessary produt post abundance

right

but the problem is that all the things you're proposing like

giving more power to the wealthy are antithedical i'm not psld on your put show that higher inequality reduce i ne i me hol on words is you're putting words in my mouth ok

i'm not saying what i'm saying would actually in fact

this empower the ultra wealthy it just wouldn't do it

by

merely raising taxes or you know how does reducing taxes on the ultra rich decrease the power of the ultra rich

it tells helll me how go does of money

increasing increasing taxes on the ultra rich protects their monopolies because those tax raises

are also going to be felt by the little guy ninety nine percent obectively you know what a marginal tax rate is a tax rate on someone who's making more than a million dollars

does not affect someone mak gss than a million dollars so my my understanding of class struggle is that instead of simply stripping the ultra wealthy of their wealth

you unleash the forces of production that renders their wealth superfluous

so that first of all they will unleash the force of production how does billionaires having more money unleash the

like mode of production unleas the force of production it doesn't the haveter study shows inequality it's not about it's not about moyllres expect it's nots of dude you're doing even know you're arguing you don't even know what you're arguing it's not a bill grow if i want more growth to bring usup post scarcity

i don't want billionaires no no it's not about the billionaires it's about the monopolies that are the foundation of the reconomic biing that

then why are you talking about taxes at all

like you're talking about i want to get rid of taxes dude i don't care about tax ust getting rid of taxes make monopolies less likely

how does i because it because ws monopolies because it's weaker

because it allows for

counter hegemonic economic formations to have an easier chance of lifting off the ground in

challenging those monopolies

with the help of a let's say you know

proletarian dictatorship

but regardless a n i can misunderstand what i'm saying this argument

defend this argument that hey the guy who owns wal mart reducing taxes on the guy who owns wal mart will actually make it easier for alternatives the wal mart to rise up

what are you talking about be is you're not t because you're not just going to hold on you're not it easier ok to rise up in opposition you're not just going to reduce taxes you're going to destroy the special relationship that wal mart has

with the government now you're basical going to destroy wal mart ok libs ma argument what did you claimly plainly

we don't want to tax wal mart more

we want to eliminate wal mart and eliminate the entire network of corporations and walwic we want to destroy these things

in the first place and the way we're going to do that is by destroying the basis of their monopoly

which is tied to their fundamentally special their literal corporations

their very existence is dependent on recognition by the government

and the government declaring them somehow strategic sectors of the economy to be defended and promoted

there's going to be an institutional revolution

think of it as an e mouse cultural revolution but in economic way the the bosses and party lords are going to be brought down

and the presient is going to be brought up

ok so part of that was bringing down

you aren't bringing down the rich by getting rid of their taxes

but you can boost economic just just i rid of taxes getting rid of us just because just because our goal isn't to increase taxes

doesn't mean

we're not like

yeah you don't get rid of the ruling class

by not raising taxes on them

but that's we're not just not raising taxes on them we're doing a lot of other things that are actually more important

sure let's talk about like the f t c or the d o j

under republicans or democrats is it more antitrust or less antitrust

in practice who are the democrats and the republicans these are these parties are changing like fundamentally

i guess sir i guess i troub

yeah

under which which under trump's presidency where he was where the republican party was like filled with his political enemies and all that's changing now

the maga movement and you whits like the heads of the f t c

yet what did he did all those things as a concession to the republican establishment

which oh my god

this is just going to be like no true magnat to you every time a maga guy burns you you're going to find a way to excuse it

no i think i think that's no majority of republican support he actually i would i would i would actually as far as whats far as ok wait as far as what you're going to define as a maga guy

i would probably just go with what your own mainstream media says and i doubt your mainstream media' is going to say that trumps a point is john bolton a maga guy by any indic no is mike pompeo a maga guy

i'm not just saying that i mean asked the does the new york times thinkmga guys i don't well he dily fired people at those federal positions of power until he got one that he liked

so if he was didn't like what the f t c was doing why didn't he fire them the average tenure of someone at the cabinet level in trump's administration was less than a year

he was fucking fired people a the time this idea that oh he was he didn't f republican party is bullshit trum you didt necessary under trump happily let basically every merger happen

yeah because trump basically like let the republican party do whatever they want at that level

then it sounds like the maga movement that trump created isn't a properly populist movement

no maga candidate house y moing went on how how wouldud you possibly say that

how could you say the maga movement isn't a populist movement

because trump

didn't do enough to curb the influence of the establishment republicans when he was president

that doesn't change the that doesn't change the quality of the movement of people on the ground all over america

who are part of maga and were themselves disappointed

by that lack of action on part of trump

sure when you actually poll republicans and ask them for support on stuff like minimum wage it is abysmally low who cares

ok get rid of the why you d minumre of their movements i don't want to minimum wage get rid of it oh my got yeah i forgot that

the minimum wage one of the best pro worker policies we have is actually minimum wage is part mentaran economic policy the minimum wage is actu the minimum wage is still seven dollars it's chump change it's nothing yet it should be brbles right you agree that it should be doubled right

that's not how

with standards of living increase

it would increase standard of living no know mcdonald's across the street mcdonald's across the street like five month month five months ago

maybe it's changed mcdonald's offering like twenty bucks an hour

because of the labor foror thes as a shortage yeah the dynamics the dynamics the dynamics that determine like

first of bll

let's go back to the fucking basis of wealth to begin with because

don't we need an economy that actually taps into the basis of where wealth comes from

which isn't just printing more fucking money or changing the symbols or

changing ok we want the wages

to be this what are the sources of

the value and it crystallized within wages

like at the ultimate level

it's going to be the forces of production and how we actually produce material wealth

we don't have an economy that wits we don't know we don't have an economy that prioritizes that

so you can change the minimum wage to five hundred dollars or you can change it to a penny

but until you actually focus on the basis of the creation of wealth

where are you going to get he let's talk about that a book you should read is maritta masakudo's entrepreneurial state

one of the big things that

ms slightly lean towards nowadays and republicans fucking despies including mager republicans is industrial policy

is using the government to smur o maga in rod policy

ah

not the actual people that you thatt thatside fucking elects

no no do know i hod on hold no no frum when trump first hold on when trump first got elected in two thoand and sixteen

you realize that the first and most immediate enthusiasm of the trump atdministration that is literally what gave

rise to industrial policy discourse at the mainstream level

because they thought trump would give them that opportunity because of trump's rhetoric in the nature of his movement

yeah trump had this trump basically sold out to the republican establishment

and yeah i'm not denying he does that

but industrial policy has been at the core of maga from the very beginning

like rum the veryining what things to does the maga movement

not

this like maga communist movement

but what things did trump want to innovate to use the power of the state

to really build out that would improved

the means of production that would have expanded the creation of wealth

the underlying the maga movement is the need to ret one thing one product one category ok i'm going to explain to you what the maga movement is if you can't name it then you clearly haven't looked into it no the p your premises are wrong in the first place just because trom my god you just you don't you just i'm not ok t on dude i didn't say trump

was implementing policy in he brought it back to the national conversation so i he brought back to the ns what was he talking about what areas that he say i want i'm trying to explain to you what he was talking about because you have like this robotic brain you don't actually understand how politics works at a human level

what he was talking about

is returning and re industrializing america and returning

to the manufacturing jobs that people used to have before

obviously that must entail some kind of industrial policy

pretty simple

that's what the whole maga movement's about people see their fucking factories shut down and shipp overseas

and they want

real jobs back they want real production and real wealth

to return to america

that's that was the maga movement

from like day one

that's why industrial policy became like a conversation because and i forgot it i forgot the name

one of trump's first advisers

was even advocating i forgot his name specifically

he was advocating an emulation of the chinese model of building debt based infrastructure that later pays for itself

as the basis of the economy

that was literally something that was advocated to study the chinese model

of building infrastructure for america

so that was very early on in trump's administration very early i forgot his nameol specific w bad they forgot to actually pass

what trump said was going to be a three trillion dollars infrastructure bill right and republican right that's a single republican voted against the current infrastructure bill every mag have voted agains mag they all voted against it i would have voted against it too

oh my god

so this this is just so so frustrating when you say industrial policy what you mean is the vague promise of when you thinkro one do you th byt talk about industrial policy what i you think by sers w you think bidens infrastructure bill was a form of industrial policy

had it passed the original form before republicans and mansion cut it down to size literally yes

what would it have untiled originally

what would it have be i was originally even the current version involves some green public investment into building it's not industrial policys ons ofples carbon capture and so building out carbon capture and solar panels improving technology what solar panels are not indot policy dude that's not industrial policy that's bulls question

what does a factory need

electricity or no electricity

ok a factory needs to produce goods and it needs to produce do they need electricity to do so

yes but solar panels

so solar panels don't provide electricity that right

not nearly enough to power the economy it's interesting

over half of the new build out ofnew power plants in the world is solar panels

another thirty percent is wind

because we got solar panels through through industrial policy so goddamn cheap

that a solar panel you buy today is ninety nine percent she solar s y wen can only government doing it and will only know it will only ever be supp first of all those will only ever be supplementary

do

oilre and gas to nuclear that's more not like industrial policy

and they didn't fucking vote for it

right republicans don't care about any of this they're just lying to you there's just got yeat no no actually it's actually the things things biden the things biden if biden and his democrats were actually interested in passing that bullshit bill which they had no intention of

but which they just wanted to high ball to start high and then settle for the middle

they would have actually used w want to settle for nothing just making sure oh yeah yeah but but the if the democrats had balls they would have actually fucking got it passed by using the same tactics the republicans usually do

which is you republicans couldn't get anything pass except a tax cut for the rich

that's it that was their primary complis how did they get that how did they get thats ho di how did they get that one to pass

because they all agree that the rich should pay less taxes so how do they get it p obota care so how do they get

because they all because they're all paid for but paid for by rich people it's that simple so w i couldn't by not so so hold on so byden can't get his glori is because they don't agree because mention in s also bought paid for by oligarchs as is like half the blue dogs

ok but you realize that the democrats had the opportunity to pass their infrastructure bill but they chose not to

ah

this thing this shits are so far are you going to are you going to elect democratic socialist to replace mansion in cinema by the way because i'm pretty sure

that if you don't play ball with mansion and cinema

those people are just going to go to the republicans

cool if you want to build left policy

then you need to try and get like you want to make mention cinema not the center power it's really that easy why do they have so much power

because you need fifty votes in the senate

like

don't they also have power because if it was if they're not capturing the west virginia

a coal miner electorate than the republicans will

yet to some degree

that's why so if you want to give th you want to give those to the republicans

ah

no

why ok so how do you expect

to deal with the problem of mansion and cinema

without

scaring their electorate over to the republicans

well a lot of the things that you were talking about being real popular

like say a minimum wage or increase taxes on the well i don't think those are economically left

policies are universally popular

the easiest way to get more vot i don't g is the shift thems i don't th they are popular i don't think they are popular

ok

well that's an opinion in reality the vast majority of people support fifty one do you think that do you think that polling people's opinions on policy means it's popular

i think it's a good proc no i know it's not it's only popular it's only popular no it's not ries res only ever going to be opular hold on it's only ever going to be really popular

when it's enough for people to go do something for

if they're not going to do anything for these things and they're just

yeah i guess that sounds good that doesn't mean it's popular it just means

people it just means a majority of people are not outright hostile to and aren't willing to go vote against it

but that doesn't mean they're going to get off their fucking ass and like give a fuck up to go vote for those things

which they don't

or that's why these things o't get pass support

for minimum wage is not one to one in polling actual action

true and yet

that same year that trump won florida by three percent

a fifty dollar minimum wage won by i think ten percent

and because it's god damn popular

two

who cares

because one it's good policy and two it's popular policy ok we actually want more left w so you want to fiften dollars minimum wage

yeah and by twoentusy and twenty five is a proposal and florida it absolutely makes sense now i don't ok i want to i want to actually collapse this logic to its real premises

so you want a fifteen dollar minimum wage because it's going to marginally improve people's lives

you know substantially yeah they were very very very maybe marginally right and like a fifth proverty would go down by like a fifth if instead of instead of being a political

poverty will go down by a fifth if we increase the minimum wage to fifteen dollars

yeah

where have you where do you get that

sure so when we look at past minimum wage increases i think it's something like every

dollar that you increase it

it increases incomes near the minimum wage

by roughly like one to two thousand what about the prices

prices have a very slight increase it's like a one dollar wage increase like a point zero six price increase

so you're getting like ninety four percent of the benefit

ok so you're claiming that fifteen dollars minimum wage is going to reduce poverty

so what about what about so you so what about the types of jobs that people have are those types of jobs that can get people out of poverty or

are just basically i mean at this point why don't you just be like andrew yang which i am for by the way just say u b i why do you want to make people

after humiliation all of these at once because they empower worker no because the corekuus because youpll see through it as you haves m it n know if theesn't epower anyone is to remove the owner class to abolish the owner class and to decommodify labor

which together make class abolition that's one of the excep i don't i don't care i'm not rell youre ho i don't really care about this pipe thre yeah

now trying to so labsus logly lets worker power over timan try trying to are first of all i do not believe that increasing minmum waste of

fifteen dollars is going to reduce poverty

by a fifth

second i'm not convinced of that

second of all i

i think it might marginally improve some people's lives a little bit

but if that's what you're interested in doing what instead of being like a political figure online why you just like volunteer for a soup kitchen

because political change affects millions of people

what

like this is a this been a lion since the n yeah but but pops is regarss noll listen as far as the diorce work hod on is' far

but as far as the difference you can make as an individual you can affect much more people

by going into a soup kitchen

than by the extremely incremental effect you're going to have on the info war

that might what change like a five people's voting patterns

if i can get like i don't know a one percent increase in d s a s power

and d s a and you wre years you're not going were people not even vingson

it's not it's not that hard to get a one percent increase it's only a five years

yeah easy ok ok you want to increase the d s as membership

one percent in five years

yeah like i thougt was that how is that going to change anything

sure sa has gone from zero members in congress to four

they've gotten something like three hundred maybe what is it like so you think on sa doesn't have enough people to elect to congress right now they need more people

h yeah the more power d s a has in congress wait you're saying the d s a is membership it doesn't have enough members

the pool from to elect a congress so it needs more members

in order to elect more to congress how does that make sense

the d sa probably has what twenty thousand members

so you're saying they need twenty one

mean look four members in congress twenty thousand members

so you're saying twenty one whatever i know the math is wrong it's five percent that's not one percent

but let's just say for the sake of argument twenty one thousand

that's not mathematically that's not going to lead to

like even a tiny fraction of a person in congress

so like what are you what are you arguing

sure i mean if you actually believe this you also wouldn't be doing political advocacy

because no but i'm not the one who thinks al i don't think politics is about

harm reduction and i don't think politics is about

moderately making people even if it was about making power even if it was about changing like the fundamentals whatever you want to frame it as you also have basically no power to change minds on mass you are hoping to spark a larger movement you're hoping to get your like ideas into the minds of really influential people that's what the d s a is doing that's what bernie's doing that's what a o c is doing the reason they'l talk about fifty minimum wage is because then more people support fifteen dollar minimum wage the fail that's how we not

forty percent of the dms

i'm sorry what was it forty two of fifty dems in the senate voted for fifteen dollars i'm not necessarily it i'm not necessarily against fifteen dollars minimum wage i just don't think it's important enough to make a political see

politics are not raft things yes but on how would my on your control listen abot it but politics is not about policies policy doesn't fucking matter

no

what

so i'm just trying to remind you that youl comome

well

i think hed out happy to talk to you some other time i got to head out i see

yeah by

all right i guess that was that

ok know i was going to say politics is not about policy in the first place so it's like

you're not going to organize people around these policy snippet points because people see policies as part of like a polarity

youy seem like policies a part of an agenda

so people hear like oh

i want more socialization i want more fifty dollar minimum wage and all that's the democrats agenda

the democrats agenda is the great reset so it's about these

about these overarching agendas

that people see

at defined political differences

it's the agenda that matters not like the

specific detail of policy

um

but yeah that was like extremely

short notice

people in the discord were talking so this is what happened people in the discord were like

oh my god this guy's doing a terrible job debating s t on i was like who's debating s t l

and they were like

saw the c p usa account and i was like where is this on twitter space and they're like no they link me the discord

and i like i'm going to ambush him and i just came in and i just walking i guess i just debated him

but we didn't really get to like the thing about political strategy and like

whether the democrats should be tailed or not

we just kind of goten this like extremely abstract

stuff about revolutions

people' standards of living and stuff

but

yeah i mean again

i wish someone in the c pusa would debate me

that was a dsa guy

i would really wish someone in the c p say would debate me because

you know it's nobody in the c pusa ever addresses the argument

even if what your goal is is to get democrats in power let's say like be democrats in power would

be a more hospitable environment

to the c pusa

something that's not true by the way

really not true by the way

because democrats are in power and the environment is not hospitable to them

what like

what makes you think that

using your party to advocate voting for democrats

is going to make that outcome more likely

wouldn't the communist endorsement of democrats hurt the democrats prospects if anything

it's kind of common sense isn't it

but yeah

so that was extremely short notice i missed some donos

theres a few

thank you so much john appreciate you so much mo if you look at the data what you find might surprise you

yeah

i missed the donus

beuse i just wanted to debate

b thank you so much harold appreciate you man

we shate you tie

b thank you so much for

political distinctions do not matter

college kids don't make this country run

the revolutionary subject will always be the people who perform the general labor that runs a country

but he you so much otto

silence the glasses wars

my only source is alllaa

thank you ma'am appreciate you

chait you'n

good morning revolution holy shit amiriea with the twenty thank you ma'nm appreciate it

you say it you man

bas

thank you so ch this guy supportserialism

s for social democracy by expropriating the labour and natural resources of the rest of the worldc classic soaked andpositioned o led to two world wars

bas

thank you so much chrimall industrial capital doesn't exist

it's financing rendeer

we have no pduction to apply marxism to within the first world

precisely thank you so much chrismas

the dsa is faling apart in twenty twenty two

they are literally down thirty percent in membership in this time period

especially after the bowman fiasco

yeah i'm not i don't even know what the bowman fiasco is i'm not even sure what that is exactly

but i don't doubt it

but it is so much beyond liberalism surprise debates are the best debates

yeah i think it's always kind of like oh is a revolution going to happen in america

i think there's this like idea that like oh yeah you're a communist so you're like you're just waiting for that storming of the winter palace

american style and it's like no we have a pretty pragmatic and sober approach to american politics

as far as what it takes to build a communist movement

a movement of the working class

that's not premised by some kind of like values you want to implement

it's premised by an acute understanding of the alignment of social forces

who do you side with

do you side with the americanlas or the lipshitz thank you some of the the twitter people took over the official discord channel

yeah i sall that i saw that

super based is this is this no this is not it

this is this twenty thirty six

one that i'm in right now

but that was a interesting debate

not really

is i'm actually kind of hungry

and i don't got food

that's ok i need to curb my fucking food intake

that've been fucking pigging out like

fat for

yeah minimum fifteen dollar minimum wage is chump change

who can fucking live off fifteen dollars an hour

thank you so much sok to mak really

advocating a fifteen dollars minimum wage which would have barely even cut it in twenty ten

to be implemented by twenty twenty five

with the official inflation rates currently near ten percent but i'm saying what it sho it's like it's like withins like you talk about

fifteen dollars an hour say ok

what about inflation

it's such like a false

place to begin with

we when i say we are literally in revolutionary times

i'm not trying to be like a

larper

saying like we are witnessing a chp a breakdown of

the current superstructure

and the current relations of production

because of changes in the forces of production andrew yang talks about it he calls it the fourth industrial revolution

well it's happening

doesn't mean communists are going to win hell no it doesn't

but it does mean this is a time of change

like extreme change

so

and there's this unique significance of china that i think makes communism

very relevant

in this day and age

but it's not just it's not just about communism it's about what is communism actually about it's about humanity humanism

and it's what doogan says we're facing a post human world

the great ceys

its tranomand that p are more wealthy and middle class but it's missing that most people are in debt

mortgages credit card debt

auto deet and so on yeah because i'm kind of because i'm like a lacanian

the way i see things in terms of like meaning

signifiers

so even if

even

this is what people don't fucking understand i

revolutions usually start out among the most privileged

not the least privilege the most privileged

then it kind of trickles down

it's has nothing to do with how desperate you are

you know you want to know what's going to measure economic desperation

your willingness thank you diogenies the unelected federal reserve is driving wages down as we speak

pew research is a jokeea

but it's like economic desperation is going to be

a proxy for like

crime and depravity

it's not going to be a fucking proxy for

wanting to carry out a fucking revolution

goinga be a fucking proxy for like joining a gang or some shit

i don't know why people think that

revolutions always happen among the most privileged

first

always in history

i don't know why

because the most privileged are the ones who it's like the canary in the coal mine

if you're a privileged person

you are

you are a person who is cultivated in the art

and in this stream of meaning

through thought and through art and through literature

and you're the first person that's going to notice the cracks in your phenomenal

horison you're goinga notice these contradictions and cracks

and these are going to lead you to possess revolutionary feelings

if you're

m

committed to them

it's actually people who are

um

put it this way

when you're rich

and you're beholden to your material interests you're not really rich

rich people aren't out here saying oh i got to

i got to figure out how to make the most amount of money rich people are sitting here doing

i've made so much fucking money

that now my life is about art

now my life is going to museums

now my life is about the environment

that's what it really means to be fucking rich

when you're

see donald trump was not a rich man ok

donald trump was the guy's like money money money and he's got the golden hair and he's got the fucking suit and he's like the stereotypical capitalist

that's not a rich guy

that's a poor guy

it's the poor guy that's grinding out here it's the poor guy that's trying to get more money

it's the poor guy that's all about the money

that's the poor guy

the rich guy is above money because they have a enough of it

right

people all fucking get that shit

you know the rich dude is dressing like a bum

it's the poor dude that's flashing all this

you know what i mean

having the

you know what i mean it's like

people get everything backwards but it's because people

they're like oh the pew research studies have fought the study man

what the story

see the reason trump was such a populist was because

it's the poor guy who's looking at trump i'm grinding just like him i'm just like trump

bill gates is richer than trump you think people can relate to bill gates no because bill gates on't give a fuck about the money

he's not about the money

trump he's about the money

so

that's why we're mister crabb's communist by the way

we are mister crabb's communists

by the way

we are mister crabb's communists were mister crab's maoist

than juping mr krab's thought that's what we do here

okay

because we do give a buck about the material concerns we do give a buck

about making your daily bread and shit we do give a buck about the grmd

we do give a fuck about that here we're not sitting a

oh we're above it all no we're not above itt all man

get your money up man money's everything

marx advocates for a heavy progressive graduate attacks in the communisman effects so

the communist manifesto is not a guide to action

re ressive tax

we're not going to abolish taxes guys china has a bucking tax

we just want to lower them

a lot

mhm

because want to destroy the fucking bureaucracy the goal is to destroy

the bourgeois socialist state

bureaucracy

that means unleash the productive forces to the maximum degree

and then eventually we will be like enver hoges albania and we'll have no taxes at all

you mean smash monopolies you meaning appropriate and nationalize kind of ya thank you would

the nature of biden's renewable energy infrastructure programmes can be characterized by the fact that they are oftentimes sponsored by every source an energy monopoly with low customer approval ratings

there you go it's those monopolies that are in charge as they've always been

it's always those god dam monopolies it's always the same ones

it's always the same ones and you think if it's a monopoly they're going to be doing what's in the best interest of the people you got it the other

you got it totally twisted

because it's not even an incpient mop but monopoly

but yeah it's a combination of nas so

anything that can become a monopoly

should just be nationalized

that's what i think if it can become a monopoly just nationalize it

and then because nationalization should

and then when you nationalize it

you cut down like that like a tree you're going to cut it down to its most simple functions

that includes cutting the workforce

by a lot

and then

more good morning rebel thank you so much dr mecca grilla appreciate youn

and then once you do that

you can have more opportunities for incipient businesses to arise

from the soil

because people have more free time

and more opportunities

opportunity is everything

but you say you would appreciate

not only does ever source market itself as green it purposely wise at other small petroleum companies to further secure its monopoly on energy

they also get accused of overcharging all the time

there you go

energy i think i think one thing we're going to be adamant about in america

maga communism ok

this is one very fundamental fact of maga communism we're very flexible on policy but here's one fundamental fact

we need to nationalize our energy

that is like a non negotiable

nationalize all the fucking energy

period

but not by the u s federal government by a new institution the you sa stell out here thinking raising minimum wage will somehow get the comcast guide in my house thirty six hours faster to fix my goods and the reason we don't need to talk too much about nationalization is because our goal is to chop down

the state government bureaucracy

and we're going to nationalize our resources under a new

governmental paradigm

completely new one

well probably like we can create a state owned enterprise or some completely new organ of government

that will nationalize the energy industry

and i'm going so far as to say

maybe even nationalizing the energy industry will be the foundation

of a new

political order

guys remember what lennin said

you guys remember what lennin said

communism is soviet power

lost the electrification of the whole country

soviet power in america is probably gonn to take the forms

of

you know people taken over the local city councils

and having a cultural revolution

you know

town hall the town hall

the our soviet is going to be the town hall

right

you're going to have that form of political power

combined with nationalizing the energy grid

that's american communism

right there

that's ultimately what it's going to be about

i'm hungry

i'm so hungry

ah could eve

a fug and horse

i'm hungry

i'm hungry

i'm fucking starving actually

oy

anyway there's a few things i want to talk about

to the c p usa

' is convening tomorrow

and they're convening tomorrow about the rise of operation redanon

all these cpusa accounts that are proliferating and they're going to draft their response

tomorrow

so they're falking panickin

regarding press tv

yes i appeared on press t v earlier today which is iranian state television

and i did so entirely thanks to hassan

yet

allowed me to fill in for him because he was busy

and i gladly took up the offer

i like i woke up at like eleven

i was going to go back to bed but i checked my phone and hassan with a yow

can you go on pres t v and like sure

but i didn't sleep

a lot and the need to sleep two hours to be fully rested right now

that's ok

because it was worth it

i was

really nice

going on the shut out hassan though

shata hassan

not the twitch one

the based one

not not piker

ah ya

and i also going to be waking up before there's going to be more surprises believe it or not along the way if i'm correct

if i have this old ink correct there's going to be even more surprises

coming along the way

far as the infrared

webcat is concern

but yeah

but yeah it's all good

i'm right out here

right you do

yeah

um

we've got a lot to cover today

we've got a lot to cover

bas

ertan so muchm as positioning the social question at the foreu and as a society modernized around and with respect to rednecks really puts everything into perspective

thank you so much for

i'm glad it makes sense for you

that's all that matters at the end of the days that this shit makes sense right that's all it matters

it's just got to make sense

it makes sense

and pay the rents

you guys heard about that new anarcho nihilist ideology that everyone on fucking twitter keeps talking about

why why talk about

by the way isn't landian acceleration like

the real one

that seems like a stupid version

it like what it

weroll you know you know it's fucking crazy

the anarcho nihilist ideology that i'm seeing on twitter is literally just the purge

it's literally just the perg

it's literally just the fucking perch

and that's it

it's just the ideology of the purge it's like ok

you want to just do that

gob be a psychlepath i don't give a fuck

but i know who's building the word land is when the time comes

i know who's volunteering

anyway guys

i did hear that the

andrew tate

converted to islam

cool

isn't it crazy how scary deep platforming is

but here's the thing here's the thing right

i feel like

even though i'm much smaller in relevance than andrew tate

if i got the platformed in the way he did where all i had was telegram and rumble

i feel like we would survive

i feel like people on twitter would still be talking about us a lot

because we are an army i'm not just like a fucking personality right

also

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man man

siccre here in the shipman

sing a hear in that focking song

do nay on on do nay on

but the no

no it's not a fuck and bang or song

that's not as yeah it is

it is

buth yeah i'm glad

converted islam

everyone deserves a blank slate

i

my neck hurts mine

sitting for so fuck and laong man

about like one hour sleep i'm just kidding

there's no i haven't showered

elon usk

be la musq

elon musk when you getting twitter man give me back my twitter man

you back my twitter man

gi you back my twitter man

this friday you wan most is taken over twitter

apparently unless something happens

if i don't get my fulking twitter back

let me have my twitterbag man

come on on let me have a bd

one

youre back

tookd away from me

yeah i need pistachios bro you're so fucking right

i like neda snak right now

i need a snack

i'm so fucking hungry you're right

you know i'm going to tell my wife

no

let me have some peanut butter

let me have peanut butter sandwich

what can i go for right now

thing is

i have food

you know that i have food

oh you dont think i had fho

you think i ha hen

it

do li

i'm not needing shit up what the fuck do i look like

got to eat this shit like corn on a cop

mm

then you all want some

look at that

that looks good oh this is should be banned man look how

look at that looks a i say violent

look how violent this looks

you all vegins in the chessh it the bevegins

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i'm so glad i'm not a vegan man

ollly shit

mmm

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oh my god

ah

i'm getting super powers just from eating this

but i'm waking up

starting to geve more energy

your vegans it's crazy how that works

like as soon as i eat this animal that died

and was murdered

soon as i eat this hunted animal that was murdered

i become more powerful

you know why vegans

because life is corol

life is cruel

oh my god

the

should taste so good man

we're going to talk about how saudi arabia

in russia

changing the world

we're not going to talk about when we react to

why is saudi's distancing with the u s significant enough to completely dent the u s petro dollar this question will be at the forefront of today's video to analyze the significance of saudi's change stance we have to analyze the journey of the u s dollar and how it gained this much dominance in global trade it all starts in the nineteen for s when europe was at its worst during world war iwo amid grave uncertainties

forty four allies adopted the breton wood system it was decided that all the nations wouldill adjust their currencies to the u s dollar this was done in accordance with the requirements of the new monetary system this pegged the dollar to gold with the belief that this standardization wouldill reduce economic instability worldwide however in the early nineteen seventies the u s failure in the vietnam war changed the smooth course of the u s dollar

the u s was facing not just the balance of payments crisis but it faced a loss of credibility among its allies partners and other nations with its back to the wall the u s administration led by president richard nixon negotiated a historic deal with the opec countries in the mid nineteen seventies in exchange for oil trade only in dollars it agreed to provide u s military assistance to the gulf nations

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this resulted in the birth of the petro dollar the u s received great assistance from saudi monarchs in this says saudi has been dictating terms to the opec nations evidently saudi arabia is the largest exporter of crude oil in the world including to the usa it accounts for seventeen point two percent of all x wy isn't there a fucking saudi conspiracy theory like the saudis control the world

think about

through saudi the uus indirectly controlled the dollar peg global oil prices escalating rifts between saudi and us but of late the rifts have been widening between the white house and the saudi monarchy ever since the biden administration took an oath it has been needling the red line set by the saudi monarchy evidently riyad was displeased at biden's administration's decision to stop aiding and supporting saudi arabia's military

campaign in yemen the saudi regime has been facing relentless hooi attacks on saudi oil infrastructure additionally chat is so behind

it's disgusting

the chat is like

that looks delicious

what

my mouse is gone by my hous is csing up with some mouse is fucking gon

my mouse's foging

i hate this falking computer

i hate this fox

computer i hate

computer

how do i get fucking my mouth back

aaudis are tribal iran to revive the j c po nuclear scade deal however

shut the fock up

the growing concerns are not one way my mouse is literally gone i can't see it

i don't have a fucking mouse

the biden administration recently accused opec plus of siding with russia and significantly cutting down the oil supply to the world in retaliation

i got it back

how did i get it back

thank god i hope he doesn't leave again

democratic lawmakers introduce legislation that demands the withdrawal of essential u s military hardware camped in saudi arabia and the united arab emirates currently around five thousand troops are stationed in saudi arabia and the united emirates apart from a variety of weapons that is why saudi arabia has been showing keen interest to join the soon to be expanded group of brics nations thus

trade of the extended brics group in brics currency will be the major jolt the petro dollar had ever suffered since its inception in the mid one nine hundred seventy s the petro dollar which came as a result of a deal between the saudi led opec group and the u s may end up being defeated by the same pill that is expanded bricks saudi led opec trading in brics currency for oil and other global trade will be the end of the petro dollar a strong brick

is all set to annihilate o saudis are opi

p the hegemony of the petrodollar bricks is the powerful association of five major emerging economies namely brazil russia india china and south africa the group represents forty one per cent of the global population twenty four per cent of the global g dp and around sixteen per cent of the global trade all the member nations have been holding annual meetings since its formation in two thousand

this year the fourteenth annual meeting of brics nations was held virtuallys all controlled by larouche

all controlled by larouche

bricks is all controlled by larouche

in in this decisive meeting russian president vladimir putin put forth a revolutionary idea he announced that brics nations are planning to issue a new global reserve currency dubbed as brics currency so if the decision goes as planned it will be a major jolt to the uus dollar as the launch and trade in brics currency can quickly erode the lion's share of global trade taking place in thear

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the brics group is slated to expand and include many more emerging economies of the world currently argentina has formerly applied for brics membership there's n the u s is in crisis right now even if they have a plan for this

what's america's plan

they don't have one except war

they ow they don't have a plan except war i swear

but what may come as a shocker to the u s is that its long term ally saudi arabia too is eyeing a membership in the brics group reportedly south african president cyril

guys you can thank trump for a lot of this i'm not even kidding

trum

literally accelerated this so fast

what a based guy dude trump trump is so based

he literally is the one who fighting accelerated the shit out of this

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posta has informed that saudi arabia wants to become a member of the brics expansion group notably this one move alone by saudi arabia can put a grinding halt to the geminy of the u s dollar if the extended brics group having saudi and it starts trading in brics currency it may completely obliterate the dominance of the petro dollar in global trade frankly the development did not come off as a surprise for months now

russia has been exploring various ways to reduce the importance of the dollar in bilateral trade while it was already trading with china and local currencies the ruparuble trade is also being explored additionally in the wake of sanctions russia is vouching for increasing f di inside its territory for this purpose it has nudged india and other economically capable nations to invest in russia it is even

working on streamlining the use of india's u p i in russia if executed properly the chances of the petro dollar getting phased out are huge let me explain currently the g you have only five nations lionl good morning revolution think

of the group comprises twenty three c of the global economy twenty five of global investments flows in and out of these countries even in global trade these countries have a huge presence eighteen per cent of global trade in goods is held by these countries other aspects of trade such as services and merchandise are also healthy among these countries now in spite of the back

of this group the putin led country had to face sanctions from the u s and its allies according to an estimate by marco fernandez a brazil researcher at the tri continental institute for social research the usa and its allies confiscated about three hundred signed it on twitter

it's hilarious

he went to penn state

uh i think i saw it yeah i'll check it out

i'll so it on streams soon

after this

billion dollars of russia's reserves additionally taking advantage of its strategic clout the u s a is also forcing russian ships to not engage in bilateral trade with india and other countries time to cut down on the use of petro dollars no wonder russia is taking drastic measures to cut down on the petro dollar it is the forced dependence on the dollar trade that put it into a disadvantageous situation the dependence on the

dollar as a four x reserve is exactly what forced india to change its economic policy in on nine hundred ninety one the same phenomenon coerced china to join the w t o while each of the aforementioned changes may not always prove to be harmful to countries they definitely have some long term consequences one of them is being dependent on the economy and increased pressure to stay in the united states good books

if countries somehow try to take a different position than that of the usa it indulges in sanction war with them as is happening with russia since two thousand and fourteen dependency on crude oil eurozone countries are highly dependent on imports for their oil with next to no local crude supplies each of the currency blocks five biggest economies germany france italy spain and the netherlands is at least

ninety percent dependent on foreign purchases to run refineries against that backdrop the dollar denomination of oil has proven to be a particular headache for european central bank officials and what has already been a testing so the u s and europe so the u s destroyed europe there like europe

you're done

the us destroyed europe

his europe was emerging as a competitor

the u s was like nope not our watch

you're done

get done

it done

you're done

you're done

you're out of here

the squeeze on energy supplies from russia's moves to cut gas deliveries has driven huge increases in consumer prices running at a record nine point nine per cent in september asian countries have been feeling similar pain through august the value of china's oil imports was no the europeans what did they ever do

they don't they don't even have a backbone fuck in the e u is garbage

what does europe even stand for man you know what europeans are

not

eastern enough

to be based

but they're not western enough to be sexy

so they're just in the middle and they're like

you know what a european is a european is like a

forty five year old woman with glasses and a scarf

in like a

bohemian dress and she is going

i just like to run around in the grass

and be free with my vegan rabbit

that's what fuck in europe is man

and then it's a dude

with a fucking nineteen twenty s cap and a scarf and glasses in a cafe

well you don't know that man

i'm basically trying to say it to you and describe it to you in the interesting terms but the interesting thing is that what marx really meant is

they're talking about the environment and the ecolo it's like fucking a

what's that fucking gamel del torro

b to sac it

yeah and what we're really talking about here is like

that's what buckan europeans are ok that's what that's what europe stands for

that's what europe stands for

and what always bothered me about the europeans

is that there you know they're like oh yeah free iran

so we can run in the grass we're free europeans we're like those oppressive muslim countries

we don't have to wear the veil

in america i kind of get that why because american women are sexy

in europe

you you keep talking you keep flaunting your freedoms that you don't have to wear the veil

has anyone ever asked you that you probably should

nobody nobody you said the question yeah i can

run around naked as a european

but has anyone asked the question

should you

should you

yeah you can run around naked in europe

but should you

what if you're ugly

europeans don't care

they don't even ask the question of see america

america is like

there's a knife to everyone's throat like yeah you're free but you have to be sexy you have to look good

you're up

oh we're free and ugly

who wants that man

the two extremes taliban

and america

that's how it should be

anything in between that is cringe

think about it

think about it

right

bight

in europe everyone is so loose like a am

i have like seventy two bodies

night

i have sex whenever i want

what about what i want because i don't want to go near that

as you smell

you ever showered in your life

yeah yeah yeah europe everyone so easy going

but everyone's also so mid

i believe in excellence i don't believe in this

if you want freedom be an american

ok

if you want freedom

be a fucking american

freedom and necessity

together

you're free

but you're not free from judgment bitch

that's why i'm a fucking cowboy i'm a fucking american

yeah we can be free

but you win't free from your fucking choices bit

you ain't free from judgment bitch

you got damned european

oh yeah you can be free

but you win't free from consequences

you ain't free from consequences

america is the final frontier of

the west

that's why we're converging back to the taliban

america is so based man i love the religious right

i love the ultra religious american cowboys

oh yeah you're free

but you ain't free from the god the maternal damnation of hells i love it

i love it

soaw fucking baste

it's so fucking bazed

oh yeah you are free

you're free to go straight tail

mmhm

oh man

such a bate country

wn europeans are like

oh i me r p s sartafaka

sick of eo sick of yourope

sick of it

sick of it

i feel bad for europe because i don't even know how to be a european what what what advice do i even have if you're european

like can europe ever be based

can europe ever be based

you know what europe needs and needs like some gaddafies

needs like a gaddhafi right needs like a

europe needs like a red burlusconi just like a silly guy who's also based and then europe can be based

but he's got to be a little silly just like trump right

like a communist berlusconi who just

he's pretty easy going

but also based

that's what europe needs

tonight

fifty percent from a year earlier despite overall volunt take northern europe seriously

i can't take it seriously

wen the swedes and the germans

try to ax it what are you doing

gotta be a little silly

take themselves too seriously man you've got to be a little silly

what kind of leader should germany have

and what i think germany should have like a stiff bureaucrat ice cold bureaucrat

ice cold bureaucrats

i

i call

ice com

yup that's what it is

northern europe has got to be ice

ho

that's what'll make it baste

just like in the eastern block

just ice cold

that's what it's gott to be for europe

that's what europe really needs

you know

feel like i

the there's so many german leaders

that try to be relatable and shit they're like

like they try to be like

oh and i also like to dance a litt no i don't want to beak and see you dance ok

i don't want to fuck and see you dance i don't want to see you be human

how i like to dance sometimes i don't give off it

you're going to be a leader of germany

just be ice cold

don't do this

relatability should because we all know you're faking it

hims being lower as the country wrestles with restrictions to stop the spread of the pandemic that's it for today's video and i hope you have a right

let's shak out the otstane

that's a thing

goe on

on twitter

doctor faunching

bring us vaccines

we only need

but i couldn't see

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eight

i

you're my parents thank you for coming thank you rd ticke i love you i think you really

it know

where do

how come we didn't get this in u c l a

someone should pass over to zirka that we gott to go to penn state

we gota go to penn state

what the buck where was this energy in u c l a

where do we find these people

how does alexstein find these people

where'd we get this

me i lo to finnish she does not turned me onond that she turned me

he're my parent i'm going to be honest

if someone fucking spit on me all i'm gona say is that

men and women are now equal

don't foxing spit on me

hey

house

and i was a

fat spit that was like a huge loody you know what a disgusting woman

if you fuck and spit on me

men and women are equal

a i'm saying

thank you for coming thank go tonis i love you i think i has somemut

disgusting

can't just fucking do that

you't i need i need like a girlfriend who fights

and like a girlfriend and like

she'll be with me and someone

some shit like this fuckin happens

she'll know what to do

there's all my fucking on what a disgusting

by i like that

s se does that n that turns me on

for two

buk you buk you fcius

pretty sure this girl tweets about me

you know it's so funny i'm famous guys i used to wasach this shit as like a neutral whatever

not neutral like i used to watch this like a random guy

now i'm like

this girl literally has tweeted about me

she's literally made tweets about me

thank

she has

this woman has literally made tweets about it

like she knows who i am

i know she knows who i am

first act

she's very familiar with who i am

and

it's like damn i'm famous

i'm actually fucking famous everyone knows who i am

let's continu because

or

there' is no more

four g five

how the fuck is alex stein a fucking fashion

alex stein's a fascist hop

what way

i don't know

i don't want to watch pay one zero i'm sorry

i'm not interested in that

i'm not interested in

guys what's that song that's like

neverinm manmen you're going crazy

not alone crazy

itn' take talk

yous know what that song is

i'm not gonna watch fucking ted kazinski on leftism i don't goet aaf

we think i don't know why i never go ont to which you know i can go on which

goe ont wwitch

anything

a song

playing call of duty

either way the new call duty is fucking crazy apparently

you fight the cartel and solemani

fox

just fucking

they're running out of ideas that

point

i like to i'm going crazy

oh there's a better pulling video fm alex stein let's chack that one out

but

there is a better full length video on alex stein in his latest tweet

thank you so much chris i will check that out

am i doing anything for halloween

i have not planned anything yet

but i want to

but it's not going to be halloween which is on a monday is going to be halloween weekend

yeah i don't know what i'm doing

i don't know i haven't planned anything

its all fuck it's in like five days

youya'll fu someone out

feel like i losing

two

guys up

is this all just because of him

oh i need a fucking dooz this at penn state

now i wish people would protest me like this i wish people would protest me

i want to see it

i want to see the two had signs

get out of here two halls

always for proud boys

timetime ninety nine i just want to say you guys pir representation com

you know people are such pussies they just go you i hope you die

supposed to cry

my soos to cry bitch

to suck my dick

a five

what a bitch

i supposed to cry

a fight

what is that

i nver beeny it be bning likeenas to go to school here

oh

this is what me and zirca couldn't fucking do in u c l amn

this is what we fucking failed to do

this is what mean zorka could't falckingto holy sheep

you sit dore and say this is our future this is our future i mean you

guys a wanted the shared a free speech no reason not to liked a been a by i should b

i really should hurt your feelings right now

youh you know i sue i assume everyone hates me until otherwise so it's like if you say thiss like i'm

i don't care bitch

when i'm when you're in line a subway

that's how i feel about you bitch hurry up and get your fucking sandwich

lalk in time wasting fat ass

so i feel you know what i mean like you're not hurting my feelings bas a dogga dog world i don't know

you think we were friends before this i don't know who the fuck you were

do do i triger im

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youo sang i don't know why they didn't go through thank you man

but m

say next time someone brings up the tool things is fron are you

yeah

or i'll just falk me doubled down like i always do

wey

that's a sw brother not so funny

i went to twitchc

and then i was with zerka

and i hung out with kiana and jaw in them

and i like those guys a lot they're so cool

but

she told me that when she went to the partner party

all these fucking leftist twitch streamers

like ketfles in them they were like

oh my god i'm so thank you so much for your takedown of haze

like

they thought it was like a serious

they thought it was like a serious thing

it's like ok i didn't see i didn't see any of them

like

i was hanging out with them

where were they where were these leftists i didn't see any of them like

in our crew

they weren't in our crew like with the flock

oh not

this is a beautiful college for real

the the cute bougt gang they're super cool people for real

they're actually really cool people

they're actually the only people on to which that i like i think

well the some of the only ones i' met

but they're super real and they're like they're just cool

you're not like fake or anything

there like there's nothing snakes

snakery about them

to theng

free speech the people that want to limit free speech that's a future very bleak future that's w fw rights are guaranteed to us is the fact that we're allow to say what we want where we want to ff we don't agree with those views so the sad reality is that this is the future these people do not want they don't want people speak of they have a did point so that is the sad reality of what's going on here that you bunch of cowards yeh i'm saying you guys are cowards trying to shut it down

a guy trying to make a stegeight i you want to say guy i'm wt to say we don't want violence thet want to hear my topick i know but i want to speak

to you

ight said the foca

i set it again

seve

i'm going to go to i'm going to penn state that pennsylvania i'm going to fuck in pennsylvania i'm going

i know where i'm going

possibly like

this month

proall be like early november iim definitely going

i'm going to schedule it

af zerka's live go tell him or don't don't do that don't do that don't do that don't do that

its ot of that's lot

but a tellzerka

penn state

is where it's got to be hey guys ninety nine hourie i'm on the drive thank you guys for being here

come to the university of michigan an arbor

i can literally go there right now should i just go there right now

i'm going to an arbora right now

but m

i don't know if i want to go without a polsy

to go by myself i just get attacked by like

five

fifty people

ho knowf there about that life

do i ok do i have any guerrillas in ann arbor if i have guerrillas in ann arbor

and university of michigan organize something and i'll come

organize something

we need at least of like

ten of you get ten of you

and m

like let's let's do an event

a yeah why not i'll fuck and do it

of course i'll fuck and do that

university of michigan yeah

no jackson's in california dude i'm in michigan

yeah i'll go

but it's a private campus but still it's like

yeah

i'll do it

you know there's a lot of maoists and university of michigan there's like a lot of like hardcore fucking

you know all those like red guard people on twitter like a lot of them are based out of you mitch soy they're like that you know they're like that

they're like super super altra leftists

because there are bunch of privileged fuck and spoiled fucking

nerds

and that's what motivates them to be maldt

badly

i'm not scared of anybody here i'm not a cowardorg there's no merci in this rechious hunger thirsty persons different persons

what they gesh it worsens w

wecoe back toin and you'll see the different vermin reach all that different

imagine just

not doing this

to o

you know i'm convinced people just go to protest

the make friends and get pussies

what else ok what what reason would a man do this

tell me why a man would do this

this is why women do it to go post it on their instagram

they women go to protest

to post it on instagram

men go to protest

for pusssy

tell me what i am wrong

tell me i'm wrong

give me one good reason you're a dude sitting at your house and you're going to get up

and instead of

instead of eating some hot pockets and fucking playing call duty or watching a movie

going to get up and go to a fuck and protest

listen as a man

men only go out

four puss

that's the only reason we leave the house

except

her food

and sh and like clo like buying things

men only go out for two reasons to buy things

to think

in solitude

to catch up with the broils

or to get pussy

there's four reasons a man will ever go outside

the four reasons a man ever goes outside right there

the for reason

the four reasons a man ever leaves the house thank you so appreciate

i don't know what that is

but it depends on how far it is if i can't drive there i'm i going

but yeah there's four reasons a man will ever leave the house

ok

to think in solitude

two

purchase things

to hang out with the bros

we're to get pussy

why else would you step outside

name one other reason

like to go for a walk

think in solitude

that's what covers it

go to the gym

yeah that's the i count that that's either thinking in solitude or it's getting pussy for me it's thinking in solitude

for a lot of you that's forgetting pussy

because you're fucking losers

there's no there's no reason

a man goes to a protest

there's not

there's no reason

no reason at all

and there's a rare fit

but it's only if you're famous and it's to

grow your empire

expand your empire is the fifth reason

ok

but that fifth reason

ninety nine percent of men don't have it

that's the fifth reason

that's why i go to fucken

that's why i go like

the maga rallies in shit

think about it

church that's thinkin solitude

we got the police escort look we're just running red lights we don't give shyes like this su sky is like

they tried to shut us down but prescess apparently getting the car was go ot

she looks like she's nineteen what do you guys think

she looks super young

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super young

sjust looks immature

you know' be funny just start going and bullying children

it's like go to a fuck in elementary school

ook at this fok a kid getting mad got your nose

what you pucking dumbance

be hilarious

um

brigan domaz

brigan idiot

d to do

those redactied people get crazy views

i know the fuck

ha want to react to my press t v appearance

let's react to haze

on first tv

haslden i' gonna go to a couple or hey that's me

i should say one topic that's mees to be one of the focus of this of the agenda of ping for the next five years

and based on what has been covered in a speech

bolstering security and

turning china into a technological

the power is very important for

china

now

we're going to get into technological aspect of it

a little later but national

security

high on the

agenda

and a priority why do you think

that cited as a priority

in the eyes of gene pine

well as china has entered a new phase

bch

historical developments which is moving out of the primary stage

of modernization and industrialization that characterized the reform and opening up europ

china is starting to be recognized around the world as a serious geopolitical player

and superpower

and with that has come the

understanding on part of the chinese leadership

that that's going to lead to an increased level of aggression and hostility from the world's

premier superpower

which is the united states so china

has to prioritize national security now in ways that it wasn't before

because it is increasingly finding itself in the crosshairs

o

the state department and the foreign policy agenda of the united states

a national security

i shouldn't have said the state department

i don't know why the fuck i said that

i was tired

i should have said like the pentagon

thank

and then technology hazeldan

the china is not going to rule out

not giving rare earths to the u s which would be a big catastrophe

for the u s acs would do that threshold but it comes to

sad we will do

yes i think it speaks more to the more fundamental level of modernization and

developments of the productive forces that china's leader of globe look at i'm such a serious guy look at

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what is the instrument that does this you know the instrument that does this noise

it

let me show you the it's synthesizers

it's not a flue

they use a read flute

what

i know it's electronic it's not a fucking flute

read it flute ararably

h

serman

sufic

h what is

it's a reed pipe

no fucking way i didn't i thought i literally thought it was just synthesizers

iy did not fucki know that

so in ancient times they was doing the shit

this was in ancient times

i did not forki know that let me show you

two

ouns properly part to

as you see the two

reads

and then you played

a bit difficult

cover

all this t wt how much are these i want to buy one they

it be so

i'm going to buy one and bring it to penn state while i'm fking to change my mind

pose

i like it'll attract people

one finger

mm

mhmm

how much do they cost

i swear to god i'll buy one

i swear to god i'll fucking by

i swear i'm gonna buy one i swear

when they start screaming at me i'm going to use it

i'm going to go to penn state and if the leftist start screaming at me i'm going to whip this out and start using it

quite loud

and of course you should

mm play this with this soirk

i'm looking it up now

ill you guys think i'm joking w i'm buying it now

at sea

oh they're not that bad

like a hundred bucks

this one's no good i want to find a real one

ninety five dollars

on ebay

they about yeah they're about a hundred dollars

yeah they're about a hundred dollars i want to see if they got them on amazon

be i don't want to use anything but a'm

yeah they don't have it on amazon

they don't sell m on foking amazon

ll right w will buy one

i waning to find one

you calibraating what you use for this ousp

thank you very much the mishwds

and

thanks a lot much

o well how much is this one

i want to get his

oh is frienzent

to a

yup i'll get one

i'll get one

i have to find it

llright guys

the soow cannot last

forever

to gather

i got to go to the gym

i actually got to go to the gym

i'm super tired guys come me some fuck and slack all right

call me some slack man tomorrow

earlier

tomorrow

longer

tomorrow

bard

energy

tomorrow

tomorrow

bye

come on

tomorrow

why guys

good night

one last thing

s dl did make a good