THERE ARE ONLY 2 NOT 3 [2021-11-05]
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there are only two holes
down with the three-hole aristocracy
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i have a question
for the chat
i have a question for you
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is this a joke
or am i serious
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you
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of course
i'm joking
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when i go to university
and i'm studying as an academic
in my institution
that's serious my friends
there's credentials involved there's
legitimacy involved there's authority
involved
i'm doing a serious thing
i'm engaging
in a true cultivation
of real objective knowledge
as you can see
i'm not in the university right now
so it must be a joke
and if it's not a joke
it's an absurdity but only be laughed at
and it couldn't possibly be taken
seriously
because
only universities are serious that's
where serious things happen that's where
serious academics and scholars and
professors
cultivate and acquire
serious subjective knowledge over the
world
and over the whole of being
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hello
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when i see academic citations
i see seriousness
i see
the seriousness
of life and death itself
it's a very serious thing you see
it's a very serious thing
this work i do at the university
it's extremely profoundly serious work
in comparison to which
all life
is but a mere comedy
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don't you know
i've proven the seriousness
of what i do at the university i've
proven it
after all
universities have been immensely popular
in propagating and implementing the
ideas created in them
as applied to the general masses in the
broad strata
right
the university is a serious place
after all
it gives us serious results
just look at the activists tearing down
statues very serious
very much successful
in being able
to apply to society as a whole rather
than a tiny minority of educated
parasites
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was a murderer
and a genocidal maniac
and that's why we have to remove his
statues you see
we do serious things in the university
we do learn serious things very serious
work we acquire objective knowledge of
reality just look at our results we're
tearing down the statues we're tearing
down the statues
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away
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in here
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day
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never be safe
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calm down
everyone calm down
calm down don't worry
it's all a joke
everything's a joke
don't worry
it's just a joke it's okay
there's no harm in it
laugh
just laugh
just laugh
don't make everything better
don't worry
the scholars are at work and they know
what they're doing they'll save us
we're gonna have a great reset
where the scholars are in charge and
they're going to
make life a little more serious
the sociologists and the technocrats
they'll make our lives a little more
serious don't worry
everything else is a joke
it's all a joke don't worry
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everyone laugh with me right now laugh
come on
laugh
let me see some kws in the chat laugh
with me
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we're having a good time aren't we
it's all a joke
i'm joking it's harmless
okay
don't worry about it
it's all a joke
going back to
university tomorrow where all the
serious things are happening
everything is a joke about the
university nothing
is uh
to be made a mockery of there
that's where serious things happen
that's where serious knowledge is
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now
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me
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i'll wait in here
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in here
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when
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we
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oh
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the world's a funny
place it's a funny place
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twitter is a funny place
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in fact
i want to let you guys in on a secret
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if that's okay
if i may
some castles will make a sense i find
everything so funny
but i don't even think laughter
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is enough of a worthy response
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and give expression
to the affect
of humor
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and
so i'm left dancing
i'm left asking the question
and maybe someone can explain it to me
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i want to know
the island of seriousness and
self-seriousness
with which these people on twitter
laugh
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they're laughing at something right i
presume there's something doesn't
include themselves
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so what it is about themselves
that they take so seriously
what is it about these people
about themselves
that they take
so seriously
what is it
is it that they're in debt and they have
no future
is it
that they're academics who are on the
verge of being sacked
and fired
is it that they're academics who do
nothing and get paid for it for a living
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what's so funny i mean i understand
what's so funny but
my real question is uh
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what's so serious
that's what i really want to know what
is so serious
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why are you surprised
you're laughing
um
my tweets
every single day i have people
sharing my tweets with thousands the
other day seven thousand
three thousand five thousand
people find them so funny i just wanna
know why are you surprised what what did
you think was serious in the first place
that's my question
that's what i struggle to understand
personally
that's what i struggle to understand
a lot of people ask me they go has
when you're tweeting and stuff are you
just joking
or are you 100 serious
what if i'm just an american huh and by
an american i mean
a pragmatist
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what if i just want to see what happens
what if i just want to see how people
will respond
what if i just want to see
how seriously people would think
what if i don't really feel anything
and i just want to see what would happen
if i said this
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thank you weezy
i'm showing you my power level now
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are there serious stuff
is there serious stuff on twitter
the contrasted to oh
i understand
when people are tweeting about um
decolonization
and quoting passages from the things
they've read in the universities
that is serious
that is serious
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excuse me when they're tweeting about um
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their sexual theories and feminism or
whatever that's serious right that's
serious
my bad
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these are very serious people
very very serious
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a dark people
i burned a lot of bridges
some castles were made of sand
only
then you vintage
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when you tweet something on twitter
i think about twitter a lot
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so we
can
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there's so much meaning
circulating
meaning that goes over my head i'll
tweet something without even thinking
about it
just to see what'll happen
and then people respond to the tweet
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what did you think was at stake
why are you getting so worked up these
are the questions i ask myself
and then
i begin to feel very sad
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i begin to feel very very sad
i begin to feel depressed
i'm not lying to you or joking i do
i took a long hot shower today
depressed
and what made me depressed
is the fact
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that these people
it's a very dark thought
but that these people have invested
meaning
in a website like twitter
and they've attached their
identities they've attached their
sense of meaning their sense of identity
and and being
and everything's at stake
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i just have a question
what if it didn't matter
what if none of it mattered
what if nothing on twitter
actually mattered
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don't worry about beta el pinata he's my
new orbiter he's my new [Β __Β ] basically
i have him on a leash a mental leash
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when i tell you guys everything is going
according to plan i mean it
you understand
don't worry about my little [Β __Β ] my
little reek
beta
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no no don't worry about it don't worry
about him
don't worry about it
we'll get to it soon
he's a very serious person right he
mocks
he's very good at mocking others just
because of how serious he is his
scholarly work is very very serious
um his work in the field of
historiography is extremely serious
objective work there's nothing
to laugh about when it comes to that
right absolutely nothing to laugh about
it's very very serious stuff so let him
have the right to laugh guys he's
it's very serious
he does very serious things uh as a
profession in his life very very serious
stuff
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i burned a lot of bridges
some castles will make a sense
only then
one of the things that has fascinated me
for a long time
and that's all going to go back to the
fact
i'm not just a patriot in the sense of
being a socialist patriot you know a lot
of socialist patriots will say well
there's the progressive legacy of
america and the
declaration of independence and the
civil war i go much farther than that in
my patriotism for this country
i am fundamentally patriotic
as an american beyond politics
my sense of
loyalty
and belief
or at least entanglement with this
country
goes far beyond
thinking that it's progressive
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what i think
makes me an american
fundamentally an american and this is in
direct contrast
to england
and the other english-speaking countries
with which
americans have the misfortune of having
to converse with on occasion
is that an american
doesn't impose meaning on things
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an american doesn't think
things are already meaningful or even
inherently meaningful
americans just want to see what happens
they just do things to see what will
happen
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meaning might be there
probably is there
but americans don't have an anxiety
about the meaning that's there
they let things
well
in ambiguity
they leave things up for interpretation
that is fundamentally what i am
there's a word
you've probably heard before in your
life
called neuroticism
an erotic
is someone who has a lot of anxiety and
a lot of stress
what are they anxious about
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they're anxious
about
not having a grasp
on reality
they're anxious about the possibility
that reality might contain
the seeds
or the bearings of their own destruction
coming to terms with neuroticism
means coming to terms
with your own death
coming to terms with the fact
that in this reality that is truly
before us
before we can ascribe or impose meaning
upon us upon it
there may very well contain the
possibility
of our destruction
or even the destruction of the things
that we believe are meaningful
and in order
to resolve your neuroticism
you have to be at peace with this fact
lacan calls it subjective destitution
it's where the subject
ceases to
obsess over the question of what they
are in the eyes
of the imaginary other
thank you shine box
the subject
in that sense
undergoes destitution
a kind of death
maybe an ego death is how you would
it would make sense to you but
they start to
think of themselves as an object
and not so much the subject of the other
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now they might not know that object
but
they don't live their lives going on a
quest to see what they mean for others
and
when people are going on twitter what
they're basically doing is
searching or trying to measure
or trying to acquire validations
in the eyes of others
or the big other right society
or
the crowd or the squad
right
or the twitter mob whatever you want
they go on twitter
to see if they can find validation in
this
in terms of their inner being
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like this is fundamentally who they are
and what defines them
to the point of life and death
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did you see the tweet with 10k likes
calling you insecure
there's plenty dude there's one with 7k
there's one with
there's so many that are going around
right now
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one of the things despite being a
patriot
that i truly hate about this country
which i've always hated about this
country
and something which to be fair i will
attribute to the nefarious and poisonous
influence
of britain
and its uh
its commonwealth
culture
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smugness
self-satisfied
irony
right
where
when you're proven
to be objectively an absurdity yourself
you project that absurdity to be a
defect
or contradiction
that's only proper to others you never
invest your own skin in the game
and recognize that
the reason you're laughing
is because you're coping with the fact
that the joke is literally on you
when i make a tweet
and you quote tweeted and you you claim
all we're all laughing at you when we're
mocking you
you don't understand that the joke was
always on you
the whole point
is to demonstrate
that everything you find meaningful and
serious in this world
is a [Β __Β ] joke
that the things you find meaning in are
fundamentally meaningless
and that it actually doesn't matter what
anyone tweets
because it's all [Β __Β ] meaningless
oh
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i don't think i'll ever be popular on
twitter
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i don't think i'll ever be a popular guy
on twitter
and if i do it'll be far far in the
future
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i'm not really surprised by it anymore
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how hard
you have any holes and how many holes
hang with those holes and then here in
the holes
i want to tell you the truth of what i
think
i sincerely believe
that americans on twitter and maybe
others
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genuinely believe
that
if people don't believe
in a urethra
it'll stop existing and that women won't
be allowed to pee anymore
if someone
doesn't demonstrate
exact and specific knowledge all the
time
over the vagina
i actually think that they won't admit
it but these people genuinely believe
that that's what's at stake it's the
very existence of the thing and it's
causing so much anger and if you don't
think there's anger trust me there is
there's a lot of anger
there's a lot of anger because uh i was
not invested i wasn't sufficiently
invested
in the question of how many holes were
below a woman's waist
there's genuine anger because these
people think
that i'm basically denying them the
right to pee
or i'm denying women the right to pee
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just because i'm
not invested in the question that was
being asked to me enough
how dare you
how dare you
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sorry
you can go pete
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if you needed my permission
oh dude you gotta do
i just think people have a hard time
accepting the possibility
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that i'm just not i wasn't really
invested in it i just
it's it's not something i i thought was
important at the time but now i realize
the harm
that i did
in in
but then i thought about it
i thought about this for a week
long and hard
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after i you know
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i reacquainted and refreshed
my knowledge
of
vaginas
you know it had been a long time you see
and i refreshed my knowledge
and now
i'm confidently prepared to say
after all that's happened
and i'm doing this in full knowledge of
knowing how many people were very
angered by what i said and and very
upset
and extremely just fascinated and they
just couldn't wrap their [Β __Β ] heads
around it
i can say with confidence
now
after i know better
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i almost doubted myself but now i know
i i must have forgotten right
and remember this is very serious
this is a really serious issue and
i want to personally apologize to all
the women who were offended by it
and
i hope this will make it up to you all
the women offended by
my comments
i want you to be able to forgive me
after i say this
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there are only two holes
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there's only two holes yeah yeah
yeah there's only two
gonna cry
are you gonna cry
i raped it you're gonna cry
suck my dick
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there's only two
yup
there's only two
yeah only two
there's only two
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the more angry you get
the more i'm gonna repeat it
the more backlash i get the more i'm
gonna say there's only two
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there's only two
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good
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now
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me
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i am the destruction of science
i will destroy science
with my fist
i will destroy
science
with my fists
you do not have knowledge
in the real
you do not have knowledge in the real
you do not have knowledge emory
in here
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fake science
fake science
fake science
fake science
fake science
fake science
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fake science
fake science
fake science fake science
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i had a tweet go viral
i want to show you the tweet that went
viral let me show it to you
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we may love
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i burned a lot of bridges
some castles were made of sand
only then
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let me show you the tweet that got a lot
of people angry
and this is by the way 1 000 facts look
how many quote weeks tweets in relation
to uh
likes
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this is actually facts
this is actually 1 000 facts
i said
american neuroticism about vaginas
is because their ultimate cope is there
being knowledge in the real for them a
vagina only exists when it's already
known by the big other
oh my god that's so meaningless
that's so meaningless and completely
incomprehensible
oh my god
what are you saying
this is so
pseudo-intellectual and absurd oh my god
this is so absurd there couldn't
possibly be any meaning to this it's
completely word challenge oh my god
here's what it is right
if it wasn't true
why can't you just be at peace with the
fact that there's a [Β __Β ] vagina and a
urethra in a [Β __Β ] or whatever and and a
vulva in general why can't you just lay
back and be at peace with that why is it
so important for you
that
there's some other who knows this that
there's just this knowledge of it out
there why can't you just be at peace
with it right i literally just
simplified what it meant for you right
there
neuroticism
is about having anxiety
within psychoanalysis at least
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over over things that are outside of
rational conscious whatever
logo-centric phallic knowledge right
that's what neuroticism means you just
have this fundamental anxiety about this
wilderness of reality that is somehow
antecedent or indifferent to the
knowledge you have of it consciously
thank you z zulu right that's
neuroticism
so why do they have such neuroticism
about vaginas specifically and why did
my tweet blow up from a psychoanalytic
perspective because vaginas represent
the most like visceral
it's literally the opposite of the
freudian phallus it's the most visceral
representation of the real that exists
in the human imagination
and you don't have to just consult
psychoanalysis
femininity in every single [Β __Β ]
culture in the world is associated with
the moon or darkness or
unknowability and mystery and just
something that's outside
of established knowledge right
and if you deny this i know you're a
[Β __Β ] idiot who doesn't know anything
right but it's associated with um the
unconscious and intuitions and things
like that
that's what femininity in general
represents in practically every human
culture
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the sun is female in pi then the sun has
a fundamentally different significance
what is pi
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okay
so the idea that there's knowledge in
the real basically means that the real
is something always already domesticated
by the knowledge of it that in the real
itself you can have this guarantee
that there's already an established
knowledge of it there's nothing about it
that's going to go over and beyond what
you expect of it
and um
where it fits within your symbolic
universe
it's actually really simple stuff
proto-indo-european i got you
and the sun has a different significance
the real is unexplainable
well yeah there's no knowledge in the
real is the point
there's no knowledge there knowledge is
an effect of signification
knowledge is an imaginary effect of
signification
specifically scientific knowledge
you can't take no you're you're thinking
the kantian thing the real is not the
kantian thing okay the real is not the
kantian thing it is perfectly something
that is operationalized within la cons
matthems and so on and so on so no it's
not the [Β __Β ] kantian thing
it's not the kantian thing it is
definitely something that is uh
put to work
in the form of drives
no the lacanian explanation is that
women the woman does not exist and then
now bad empanada is going to clip this
because he's like every other academic
i've ever um
encountered where like
he takes things that are inherently
meant to be paradoxical and
contradictory and ambiguous
and he like he thinks that the that he
displaces that
as like oh
that must be a joke that's worthy of
mockery that's just not serious but
that's just assuming reality itself
isn't contradictory
or paradoxical right that's why
americans had such a hard time with
lacon that's why sokol would write some
[Β __Β ] like oh la khan literally i'm going
to do bad up on his voice um isn't like
that guy who thought like the phallus
was like um
the square root of negative one the
square root of negative one is like not
a penis okay it's not a penis okay the
the square root of negative one is not a
penis okay it's like
like didn't look on that like really
crazy guy think that like penises are
like the square root of negative one
and all you're doing is exposing what a
[Β __Β ] [Β __Β ] you are i don't know how
that's an own or how you're placing
yourself in some kind of position of
mockery who the [Β __Β ] are you mocking but
yourself when you display such [Β __Β ]
rank ignorance
but anyway what la khan means when he
says the women does not exist
is basically that
borla lacan
there is no imaginary substance or form
that is in the real the women a woman is
another name of the father for lacan
because a woman represents
um the unity between imaginary form and
the signifier and lachan
wants to upset that unity by saying
there is no secret mysterious true real
substantial woman that
the what the real in the form of a woman
is non-all that's lacan's logic which
means basically that
a woman is nothing more than what they
are signified as but what they are
signified as
is not
completely contained in some kind of
imaginary form that's what non all means
it's everything but at the same time not
all of
it and the reason why the reason for
that is because everything is internally
contradictory everything is incomplete
if i say for example
the whole of being is not all the basic
idea is that
the whole of being
is whole but it's also not full
because it is imminently
unfinished or continually developing
or contradictory or paradoxical right so
that's what non-all means
it's really simple
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but people lost their [Β __Β ] minds at
this tweet that i just
i don't know i just i wanted to see what
happened
it's true it's actually true
it's like if it's not true
like i said why would you make a huge
deal over a meaningless like why are you
making a big deal of it right and now i
realize why they're making a big deal of
it which is why i'm gonna double down
[Β __Β ] you [Β __Β ] there are only two holes
i'm a double down there are only two
holes
the fact that you make a big deal of it
is why i'm a double down and say there's
only two holes
because you seem to have some kind of
pathological attachment to what people
know about urethras or something and i
reject your pathological attachment i
think your pathological attachment is
meaningless so there are only two holes
[Β __Β ] you you don't have any secure
you know oh i feel so secure in knowing
that there are three whole no [Β __Β ] your
security it's a [Β __Β ]
hope
like there's clearly a pathological
attachment
to
the
usage of the correct terminology in
words
in relation to the perceived objective
reality right
and this is another thing about twitter
which is why again i'm fundamentally a
patriot
of the lynch the david lynch school of
patriotism
because
to me
a string of words is not
inherently
latent with meaning
this can very well just be meaningless
right
but you give it the benefit of the doubt
if you want to engage with it and try to
develop a meaning you're open to do that
but there's no fixed meaning always
already there
that's the same thing with david lynch
uh movies right
is it meaningless per se
well maybe you you're free to treat it
as meaningless
is there a meaning well you're free to
develop a meaning from it but that's the
thing you have the freedom to do that
there's nothing like
dogmatically inscribed there that's
already there
right i don't understand twin peaks
that's my point
your attempt and striving to understand
it is the problem
it is not inherently loaded
with a predetermined meaning okay
now i say that with a um a grain of salt
because in twin peaks
and at this point we're not talking
about
vaginas anymore or whatever
obviously but i just have to say this
like i was like oh my god i was making a
big deal over the video
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i made a big deal of it why
have you been tweeting it at me non-stop
for literally two days
so clearly we have to work through some
pathological problem right
because this happened like what three
months ago or four months ago
but anyway um
twin peaks
i would say it is loaded with it is
there is a meaning there
i would say there's not a knowledge
there right i do believe twin peaks has
an inherent meaning
it's just an inherent meaning that has
to be developed out
you can't dogmatically assume
that there's an already pre-existing
knowledge of the meaning
to me there's an important difference
between meaning and knowledge
meaning
is the point in the chain of signifiers
that coheres the symbolic order right
meaning is the point at which the
signifier of signification itself the
phallic
um
signifier becomes disclosed
to a subject
knowledge
is where this
um
signifier
where as an effect of this signification
uh
the signifying chain becomes inscribed
into the big other
it becomes reflexivized into the big
other
the big other being
the imaginary form
so knowledge and meaning are very
different for me and for many you know
for luck on or for um
for psychoanalysis
they're very different
yeah the quilting point
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so i do think twin peaks is inherently
meaningful
but it's just that there's no
predetermined or predefined knowledge of
that meaning so it's up to you to work
through and discover and interpret what
that meaning is and i do think there is
an objective meaning you just can't be
dogmatic about it right
um
this is what defines me as an american
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can you explain what dogmatic means for
us newbies dogmatism basically means
you're
assuming that a given form
holds for all contexts all circumstances
and um comes at the expense
of its own source right like for example
let's say you arrive
at some kind of interpretation of twin
peaks well you just assume that's the
only possible interpretation
and that it has to be that
interpretation and that it can be
applied regardless of perspective or
context or whatever right that's what
dogmatic means
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are reluctant to describe the meaning of
their works interviews because for lynch
meaning is something that has to be
conveyed through practice david lynch is
a pragmatist he wants to convey his
meaning through his work he doesn't want
to convey meaning through language
through words he doesn't want to give
exposition and say oh that's the meaning
because this is a question that would
have any of these academics bitter el
panada beta el pinata included
what is meaning what does it mean for
something to be meaningful what is
meaning
words for example are metanewmic they
just refer to other words so where does
the chain of
uh references stop well that's meaning
wherever it stops is where you find
meaning but as we can see
if you're a minimally experienced human
being
right
this is only going to stop at a point
beyond language and beyond what's
describable through conscious experience
meaning for example is a traumatic
experience or a beautiful experience or
a sublime experience just something that
is fundamentally indescribable on the
terms
of language
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unless indirectly like through poetry or
something
yeah what does meaning mean
whenever americans are confronted with
like zizek or lakon or any of those
people they just like mock it and are
like man this is meaningless [Β __Β ]
well that's not even coming from an
american perspective these are [Β __Β ]
uh
british
ideologies
right
this is the fundamentally arrogant
british perspective
which is trying to [Β __Β ] foreclose
how is this still a topic because didn't
you retweet it yourself
you realized it got like 4 000 likes
right and i got [Β __Β ] cancelled
big time
again
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and honestly
that's why i have to double down on two
holes
because
the fact that people are getting this
upset about it
means
i touch the nerve
so i'm going to keep going
yes i was cancelled i literally was
cancelled
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well you know what i actually do believe
in two holes only
i do believe in two holes
why should i believe in the third and
plus
it's not even a hole it's more like a
tear right because it's only
it's not like it's hollow it's just a
tear that allows pee to travel through
it's not like it's hollow
you can't like queef through your
urethra or something because you can't
store air there
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and that's facts
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i actually don't believe you think there
are only two holes no i do believe
there's two holes
i do believe this tools
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yes i do
yes i do
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why should there be three why should i
even recognize the third one tell me why
i should recognize the third one
tell me why
why should i ever do that
matter of fact
matter of fact if
if i ever had to
ever be concerned with the third hole
so-called third hole i would block her
i'm immediately blocking her and calling
her an uber early and kicking her out
that's not none of my concern
how dare you
matter of fact
the way i see it
there's really only one hole
because the other two holes don't even
[Β __Β ] concern me at all so actually
there's only one hole
the only time i'm gonna be concerned
with the second hole
is if
you know
she lets one she lets one rip
and if she does that
she's getting kicked out i'm calling her
an uber early i don't care how late it
is
i don't care if she's sleeping next to
me
if i have to find out about the second
hole at all she's getting kicked out
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so the fact that i'm even acknowledging
two is generous
and the only reason i'm not
acknowledging the second one is because
i have to see that one
unfortunately i have to see that one
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what if she has to use the bathroom and
says she has to pee well i'm not joining
her
i'm not going with her she can go take
care of her business
it ain't none of my concern
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good
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a combination
of a lot of stupid things infrared has
done but following laconia thought is a
good deal breaker for many because
you're just a butt hurt ass [Β __Β ]
neurotic
coping [Β __Β ] probably [Β __Β ] goes on
reddit and uh
watches neil degrassi tyson or some [Β __Β ]
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you know what there's nobody in the
world who triggers the libs more than
lacon
lacon triggers the libs more than anyone
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has the virgin absolute embarrassment
barely a man
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why don't we why don't you show us your
face
get in vc
you know what if you actually concern
yourselves with more than two holes
below a woman's waist sorry more than
one whole i'm gonna go ahead and say
that below woman's waist i'm not
excluding anyone i'm talking about like
cis
gender don't cancel me but
if you do that
you're worse than a virgin you're a
eunuch you know what a eunuch is
supposed to do a eunuch is supposed to
clean
the woman up for the sultan that's what
the eunuch does she goes back to her
harem or whatever and the unit comes and
oh let me attend to your anatomy and
clean you up for the sultan
i don't
i it's not my you're the eunuch who's
concerning yourself
with those details yeah i'm not that
right
i got one job
i got one job i'm not the [Β __Β ]
caretaker of uh female anatomy
matter of fact
she's the caretaker of my anatomy
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[Β __Β ] eunuch ass [Β __Β ]
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it's actually insulting
it's actually insulting why would i ever
have to be concerned with that the [Β __Β ]
the idea that that would be my problem
is a [Β __Β ] insult
oh but but but that means
that means women don't like you and you
and and because women totally love
eunuchs and [Β __Β ]
then why am i getting multiple nudes
from random you know random uh women
i'm not talking about just one talking
about multiple now i'm stomach i'm not
just talking about one woman by the way
talking about multiple i get nudes all
the [Β __Β ] time
and i don't even ask for them by the way
i don't even ask for them
i don't even ask for them and i [Β __Β ]
get them
the dude
only then
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like people are literally sending me
pictures of [Β __Β ] uh
female anatomy on twitter
i literally have girls sending me their
[Β __Β ]
like
taking pictures of their [Β __Β ] and
sending it to me
i don't need your [Β __Β ] diagrams dude
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like what are you trying to prove
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what are you trying to prove
but you know what sucks
is that because i'm so annoyed and
because i'm so angry
i actually think it makes me more rough
and aggressive
in in bed it makes me more aggressive
and more rough because i just take out
all my [Β __Β ] anger
like all this for this
know what i mean
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no
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way me
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thank you mad sasquatch
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only shrimp dick one pump chunks talk
about nudes they receive openly get over
yourself
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one pump
chumps
i wish i [Β __Β ] lasted one pump you
[Β __Β ] loser i literally take hours
literally hours
yeah [Β __Β ] face get over yourself
one two three
are you jealous
sometimes i forget that a lot of people
can't just like
fly out girls right
like they don't have options to just
choose between different women to just
fly out
so they make a big deal of it you know
what i mean
sorry dude i think you're just jealous
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you paid 300
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no
oh for the plane ticket
no
i don't want to pay for the plane ticket
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matter of fact i might even charge rent
they stay here i might even charge like
a hotel room discount rate 80 a month i
mean 80 a day
so that's discounted usually it's 100
for a luxury hotel i'll charge 80
dollars
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stop acting like john zurka i'm saying
this as a fan
stop acting like john cerca
circa hasn't [Β __Β ] received
1 20th of the [Β __Β ] i did in the last two
days shut the [Β __Β ] up
nobody even knows how gurkha would react
to this [Β __Β ]
all this [Β __Β ] that i'm getting
in the last [Β __Β ] two
two to three days alone was more than he
ever got
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so here's here's something circa's way
smarter and hotter than has so this
person is a leftist why are all of these
people from lefty twitter
and political twitch who didn't even
know who zerko was before they found out
about me
why are you talking about circle like
you know
like you're in that scene it's so cringe
and pathetic because you're literally an
ugly fat [Β __Β ]
loser
you don't have any connection to normies
whatsoever and you just want to feel
like you're connected to normies somehow
you [Β __Β ] loser
louise got 500 messages here hey louise
why don't you get in vc
how about you get in vc louise
geez louise get in vc why don't you get
in vc
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go ahead
let's have you do it
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louise
get in vc
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it's official you've left marx's
feminism and openly attacked a woman for
making a choice on her preferences
just what can one extent follower of
lacan
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okay if you heard what marx and engels
said
especially in their private letters
i don't know if you would really
consider them a feminist because they
said [Β __Β ]
way worse than i did
if you look at what lenin did okay okay
you know what i'm actually gonna [Β __Β ]
uh blow the lid off of this did you know
that in the in one of their uh meetings
in the bolshevik meetings lenin publicly
humiliated
alexandra coluntai
because she was like in a relationship
with this dude and he just publicly
humiliated her and she cried she cried
afterwards did you know that
did you know that
he did that to alexandra colontai she
cried afterwards
he absolutely humiliated her
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and it was the joke but he was like it
was like this mocking joke he did i
don't know
he he was like
and kalonta should be forced to marry
whatever he basically
exposing that she was uh
sleeping with the dude
away
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in here
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day
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is
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louise won't get in vc because they're a
[Β __Β ]
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it's always how it is with these people
didn't someone want to debate me
didn't someone want to debate me
okay stompy
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they wanted to debate about patriotism
you guys know this is not about
patriotism right
this is not about patriotism
like
before the patriotism thing did you
remember how the [Β __Β ] bizwa jensey
dong banned me
because uh
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uh i [Β __Β ] would use the r word a lot
and like you use ableist language
that's why we're gonna ban you you use
ableist language remember that [Β __Β ]
they made a long forum post on ginza in
your video
i think we saw that one and grayson and
henry are working on a sub stack i'm
also working on my own sub stack it's
just that i got distracted
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um by twitter
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i'm starting to get so distracted by
twitter recently and i just
i don't know if i need to take a break
or whatever
i don't know
i'm just right now at this point on
twitter
um
i'm just riding off of the assumption
that everyone on twitter hates me right
i'm just riding on the assumption
everyone on twitter hates me the whole
twitter universe has hatred of me
and beef with me
right
that's just the assumption i'm writing
off of
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yeah people who larp about violent
revolutions will get offended by the
[Β __Β ] r word so stupid
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here's the thing guys
when it comes to my life
you notice how in austin
i wasn't really on twitter that much
it's because in my life there's only two
things that are happening
i'm either getting [Β __Β ] or something to
distract me
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or i'm gonna be going on twitter getting
into fights
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and honestly
here's the thing
the second thing
the second thing of going on twitter
getting into fights actually helps grow
my channel
right but that's just the two options
the end of the day russia under the
business gave women universal suffrage
agency and the right to control their
own bodies
yeah that's just part of modernity you
dumb stupid dumb [Β __Β ] dumb
stupid [Β __Β ] dumb [Β __Β ] dumb [Β __Β ] for the
last [Β __Β ] time that's just part of
modernity it has nothing to do with the
[Β __Β ] american counter culture and the
new left you stupid [Β __Β ]
that dumb [Β __Β ] that came after the 60s
and 70s
was qualitatively different
than the modern democratic form of
equality between genders you stupid dumb
[Β __Β ]
that doesn't mean that if they were
living in 2021 they would be furries
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and and and and yeah it was way more
ambiguous than that too it's the thing
it was way more ambiguous than that i'll
give you an example of the conservatism
of the bolsheviks in the 20s
in the 20s you had a phenomena of
women becoming way more masculine right
and they were wearing weather leather
coats and smoking cigarettes and just
being very manly and it was like a big
uh
epidemic apparently right and i remember
reading about this and the bolshevik
leaders the local leaders would be like
this is a really unnatural phenomena
that we should
um
we should discourage
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dumb [Β __Β ]
seething [Β __Β ]
should i just give 15 minutes of silence
for people to hate on me okay 15 minutes
of silence and everyone can just pour
their hate on me go ahead pour your hate
on me
see if it'll affect me go ahead pour
your hate on me keep hating on me keep
spending your life hating on me keep
spending your life hating on me
see if it's gonna stop me see if i'm
gonna stop see if it's gonna stop see if
it's gonna stop
see if it's gonna stop see if it's gonna
stop go ahead keep going keep going
keep going keep going keep going see if
it's gonna stop see if i'm gonna stop
see if i'm gonna stop see if it's gonna
stop me
should stop me right
it should stop me
keep keep at it keep at it
little [Β __Β ]
i am literally [Β __Β ] your mind right
now with my metaphorical [Β __Β ] is in your
[Β __Β ] brain in your [Β __Β ] mind i own
you
you are my [Β __Β ]
i don't hate you i think you need to
grow as an individual made me more
empathetic i need to be more empathetic
i need to be more empathetic
i need to be more empathetic
i need to be more empathetic
in this doggy dog [Β __Β ] world i need
to be more empathetic
i need empathy
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i need to be more empathetic right
i don't hate you i just think you need
to lose your virginity but talking about
basic human anatomy
you guys want to know the secret of
virginity
i'm gonna i'm gonna teach you the secret
of losing your virginity and why
everyone makes a big deal out of it why
i'm going to tell you why because
when you lose your virginity nothing
happens i'm telling you the truth
nothing happens
absolutely there's no secret at all it's
nothing happens
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the only thing that happens when you
lose your virginity is you realize
there was nothing there
that you weren't even i mean
the only thing you gain is the
instinctual addiction to [Β __Β ] like the
feeling of being inside of it and
smelling it and [Β __Β ] or whatever but
other than that
you don't
there's no like magic anything that
changes you that's the truth
that's the truth
that's the truth
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yeah they make they think it opens your
third eye or something
nothing could be further than the truth
nothing could be further true
so the idea that virginity has something
to do with your knowledge of human
anatomy
it's the most stupid [Β __Β ] i've ever
[Β __Β ] heard
can i ask a question who among you guys
in a long-term relationship for example
right
so i've been in a long-term relationship
um
our souls intertwine and i ascended you
must be female
because as a man
that never happened to me before
i've been a long-term relationship
before right
but i i never did and you guys just sit
there and just inspect [Β __Β ] like a
gynecologist because i never did that
the only time i was ever [Β __Β ] around
[Β __Β ] when i was was like when i'm
saying like when it was exposed to me
out in the open and like around it and
dealing with it is when i was hard as
[Β __Β ] and
i was like
only thinking about
[Β __Β ] basically right
even when you're eating them out or
whatever yeah you have to get you have
to find their [Β __Β ] and make sure you
know you get them aroused or whatever
but you don't you don't
any of you guys ever just
stop and just stare like like you're in
the middle of you're in the middle of it
and you're just going
i've never done that in my life in my
whole life i've never done that
i've never done this
is that what people do on twitter
i think that's what people do on twitter
because i've never done that
i have never done that in my life
i've never just
stopped and stared
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i've never done that have you done that
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i think that's weird
i think that's weird
dude you're literally what does this say
dude you're literally [Β __Β ] angry over
this beta male who poses as an alpha
beta male suppose that the alpha gamers
rise up the baby
you win the true elf version you the
basic
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all these tech ceos
and billionaire nerd ceos i could still
probably [Β __Β ] their
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dark wife
i burned a lot of bridges
some castles were made of sand
only then let me tell you guys something
i'm gonna tell you the truth
i'ma tell you what i believe genuinely
genuinely i'ma tell you what i believe
a lot of people listen
this is gonna not seem red pill or
whatever i'm gonna tell you the truth
i doubt
arousal has to do
with clout
or money
i literally think
even if i was a bum
i would and you were a billionaire being
the nerd [Β __Β ] you are
women would still prefer me and would be
aroused by the way they might marry you
they might marry you but they'll cheat
on you with me
you understand they will cheat on you
with me
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they will cheat on you with me
you understand
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i'm gonna tell you the truth
i am your [Β __Β ] daddy i'm your [Β __Β ]
daddy you wanna know why i'm your
[Β __Β ] daddy twitter twitter
twitter
twitter
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i'm your [Β __Β ] daddy wanna know why
i'm not socialized le in like you in
your social communities on twitter i'm
not in your social communities so let me
tell you why you want to know you want
to know something guys y'all know
something about twitter
the dimes
the [Β __Β ]
paddies on twitter are awfully silent
about this controversy right
you want to know why they're
silent because they're all in my [Β __Β ]
dms
they're thinking about dming me
you want to know why because i'm the
outsider i'm the barbarian outside of
your little socialization copium circles
and that's why i get to pipe you are
literally a brother to them you are
literally in their [Β __Β ] knitting
circle i'm the [Β __Β ] guy waiting
outside in the [Β __Β ] convertible to
take them home
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don't forget that
don't forget that don't forget that
you're inside doing uh knitting circles
and gossip circles and liking and
tweeting and retweeting on your tweeters
i'm outside in the convertible she's
waiting for me
she gonna give me top on the way home
in a convertible that's how much it's
worth it
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you little [Β __Β ] you're tweeting on
twitter and i'm piping your girl you're
tweeting on twitter talking [Β __Β ] i'm
piping your girl
i'm literally getting
i'm getting your girl i'm actually
getting the [Β __Β ] and you're tweeting
about the [Β __Β ] you're tweeting about
[Β __Β ]
and i am literally inside of it
i am inside of it
while you're tweeting about it
you dumb little [Β __Β ]
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even if even if there was a pretty girl
who's talking [Β __Β ] to me on twitter
which i've never seen in my life
i've never seen a beautiful woman
go against me on twitter but even if
there was one
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there's not a single
not a single
thick big booty woman who will ever go
after me on twitter it's impossible i've
never seen it in my whole life
in my whole life i've never seen it i've
never seen a woman with ass go after me
and that's all i care about to be honest
that's all i care about
if the if one of them go after me i'll
change my whole life i'll change my
whole perspective and everything that's
the only validation i care about
do we move on to this topic no
i spent all day dealing with it and now
we're going to talk about it
yeah exactly curious all the big booty
[Β __Β ] are
curiously silent on this topic i wonder
why
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i'm doing the infrared showdown probably
next friday
i'm going to organize it this week do a
next friday
but
no this is important because i'm getting
attacked on twitter all the [Β __Β ] time
we literally just got another tweet that
uh
thousand likes against me
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do you believe in 303 if
lindsay
ronde voodoo yes i would if she came
after me
then i would re-evaluate my whole life
i am a woman i pee for my pujol and sex
in my sex holes
then i'm gonna tell you the truth you're
probably fine as hell you're probably
fine as hell
honestly
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the only women who insist on three-hole
theory are insecure
they're insecure because they're worried
their [Β __Β ] is going to disappear if i
don't agree with them about it
and i'm trying to convince them
that don't worry everything will still
be there you'll still be able to pee
doesn't matter what i think
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i'm in the discord now what go and show
you
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going show you
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they're destroying you on twitter
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where everyone's blocked me i can't even
see anything
where
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you
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my hand i don't care what your animal
name is get in show you
in the vc
show cue
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who's this guy you are toxic and
obnoxious
account created 13 minutes ago you
literally created that account just to
say this
but i'm toxic and obnoxious
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you probably raise my kids
probably raise my kids you want to know
why because this
this toxicity that i exude this
obnoxiousness that i exude this toxicity
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[Β __Β ] drives women insane
actual [Β __Β ] zombie
insane
and i will
talking
be the father of the child you raise
because she knows she needs
my
seed my essence do you understand
essence
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where's the [Β __Β ] who needs to be in
show cube
you know what
that little [Β __Β ] needs to be in show
cues let me tell you something
name one person more handsome than me
involved in this controversy one person
one person
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lefty twitter has basically taught you
this idea that
um
you're not gonna get any [Β __Β ] if you
act like
ahs and
if you're like this mean douchebag who's
obnoxious
then you're not
i'm telling you they're lying to you i'm
telling you they're lying to you i'm
telling you they're lying to you
i'm telling you they're lying to you
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i'm telling you they're lying to you
firsthand
witness they're lying to you you saw my
[Β __Β ] dms
you [Β __Β ] lived my life
[Β __Β ] understand
they're [Β __Β ] lying to you
what women tell me in private
is very different than what will says
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what a literal [Β __Β ]
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i feel like i need another vacation i'm
not gonna lie
i can't wait to go to la i can't wait to
go to l.a
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i need another vacation
from twitter
yeah mr [Β __Β ] backed out he's a [Β __Β ]
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mentality about women grow up losers
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i'm the true feminist
i'm the true feminist i'm more feminist
than any woman
i can't call you
get in the [Β __Β ] discord vc dumbass
you're not gonna call me personally
you're gonna get my discord vc you dumb
anyway i'm more feminist than all women
because i believe
that
women should not seek validation from
men so who cares what i say
don't seek your validation from me
i'm not gonna give you validation
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i'm a true feminist
love yourself
first
i'm talking about discord that's where i
made the friend request
get in our server and get in vc you dumb
and confident [Β __Β ]
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i have gyno really can you do this with
gyno can you do this with gyno see this
look at this
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can you do that with dino can you do
that with diamond
you dumbass you dumb [Β __Β ]
rock solid chest
rock
solid chest
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you can
oh i have guy now guys i have dinosaurs
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thank you anonymous
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dumbass
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getting so cute
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i would think you listen to more
masculine music
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if you listen to masculine music
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you're a skinny little [Β __Β ] that's the
truth you're a toothache
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that's the truth
unless it's hip-hop unless it's hip-hop
hip-hop's different hip-hop's different
hip-hop's different but other than that
you're skinny if you mean masculine
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and you're a [Β __Β ]
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you
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look at this guy trying to bait me
infrared is the future
what a genius bait what a genius bait
what a genius bait
they're so smart
they're so smart
all right here's the feminist
male feminist
hello mr male feminist
hello
feminism
thank you jenna batman island can you
fix your mic mr male feminist
mr male feminist can you fix your mic
let's talk about feminism
feminism
please give me [Β __Β ]
oh
oh mother goddess
mother goddess please give me [Β __Β ] i
promise to worship you
if i he praise upon women and say good
things about women
surely the chance in the day will come
that i will get [Β __Β ] oh yes
okay mr male feminists what do you have
to say
mr male feminist
mr male feminist
hello
when is your mic work
um this is not very feminist of you if i
must say so this is uh
extremely misogynistic
that you would do this
extremely toxic
mess it just like sulfur for all said
this is extremely toxic
extremely toxic masculinity
i've learned
the anatomy of the vagina and now i can
finally talk to women hey did you know
that i know the anatomy of the vagina
just like social and for all said uh
toxic masculinity must be combated and
as long as i do that i will get [Β __Β ]
and i will have no issues getting [Β __Β ]
right
his mic doesn't work this dumb [Β __Β ]
uh mr male feminist
wanna hear your voice
oh well anyway while you're fixing your
mic uh we will talk about the fine
details of okay so i
so i'm the type of communist guy that
where i emphasize
women
mm-hmm
i i really love quoting rosa luxemburg
to show what a feminist i am
um i
talk about women's empowerment
and i just want to tell you
i'm
for women
i'm
i'm for women
okay i am definitely one of
i i love
empowering women
and women are becoming so empowered
when i say
when i say
her
instead of his
and when i say
i don't say
humanity
humanity i say
folks
folks okay
humanity with a man in it
i say folks okay
me women
i need [Β __Β ]
i'm a feminist
oh excuse me i'm sorry
i have adopted the religion of feminism
in which
i am hoping one day
or a drop of [Β __Β ] from the divine
please reward me
mother goddess i have done everything
you asked of me
reward me with some [Β __Β ]
excuse me male feminist fellow male
feminist
fellow male feminist i voted for hillary
it's her turn
hey
it's her turn
her
turn
you [Β __Β ] bernie bros
get the [Β __Β ] out of here bernie it's her
turn bernie
you men have had your chance
it's her turn
everyone always talks about lenin but no
one ever talks about rosa luxemburg
and i'm gonna do that
she
hey
hey
leave her alone
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hold on
hey i just took your five dollars you
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those uh those yeah you just gave me
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thanks for the six dollars [Β __Β ] that's
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by the way we'll see
his mic is working okay i'll drag him
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what up [Β __Β ]
feminist
are you a fellow feminist
in high school what's going on with you
are you a fellow i'm asking you if
you're a fellow feminist i'm just
i'm i'm just wondering if you've fully
grown yet
okay are you a are you a fellow feminist
yes or no
yeah
would you consider yourself the defender
of women
on the internet
just like me
no i agree
i don't consider myself a defender of
women i believe women have their agency
but i'm in solidarity with them and i
want equality
why why are you asking me this
well i i just think you're i was
wondering if you're a fellow feminist
just like me that's it
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well i believe in equality for everyone
so yes i'm feminist by definitely
excellent absolutely stunning and
phenomenal um
yeah so i personally think that
so like um when you talk are you
straight absolutely stunning
yes i'm straight oh okay and and you
have a girlfriend
no i
i have a fiance oh you have a fiance
yes
how old are you
i'm 28.
is she also a feminist just like you
yes
excellent
um yes so let me tell you something
though and this is really important
um
it's her choice
okay and she may
and it's not going to be your fault
patriotic big mac joanie
it's uh it's not going to be your fault
right
but um
if she
cheats on you with a toxic male
you need to respect her choice
and it's the feminist thing to do okay
now you're really being an idiot why
like come on wait wait wait wait so
honestly
you're going to deny her agency
look if she cheats then the man then the
the wedding is called off no
no that's toxic no
no
how is that toxic
because
it's her choice
you sexist pig okay
what does this have to do with what we
were talking about um we were talking
about lacan right yeah
and
and your two whole theories
your
i don't believe in two goals everyone
knows huh everyone knows there's three
holes what kind of misogynist says two
holes it's obviously three holes
i'm not a misogynist
like this is kind of a red herring it's
not even
a relevant or significant
meaningful
comment you're making
i'm just saying if she wants if she
wants if she
wants
to
give that [Β __Β ] up to another man you
have to watch
oh my god
it's her turn
and we're in 2021
yeah like this is probably the most
idiotic thing i've ever heard from
really it's her okay okay so you're
gonna deny her agency you're gonna deny
her agency you need to atone for your
male
crimes
and
let her
let her
get
sexually involved with other males while
you watch and attend to her needs
that is
okay
in what way let's let's go back to what
we were actually discussing and try to
figure out how you ended up getting that
conclusion from my argument
what i was saying
i i just want to know where your
trail of thought where your line of
thinking
came in order for you to think that i'm
um for
a polygamous or no it's not polygamy
feminism
it's
feminism
feminism
sexist pig that's not panic that's not
what i'm yes it is
yes it is
i i don't know like
all right okay okay okay okay okay okay
if you don't want to talk about lacan
and try to justify him okay let's talk
about khan let's talk about what
happened okay
let's let's let's talk what do you know
about justify this guy publicly okay
claiming to be a marxist i just want to
know that yeah that's my
that's that's where i'm kind of puzzled
here okay it doesn't seem
yeah okay
what is the marxist theory of
subjectivity
there's no subjectivity
there's no such thing as
subjectivity oh there's no such thing as
subjectivity at all in marxism
the subjective or the subjective view
that people have on the society is based
on their relation with it so it's
actually based on material so what is
the marxist theory of individual
subjectivity
individual subjectivity yeah many times
the subjectivity it's it's linked to
idealism so it's a it's a thinking that
i'm asking what the marxist theory of
individual subjectivity is what how do
individual subjects
how do they work what what is the
individual subject how do they form an
identity how do they form
desires how do they form uncon is there
an unconscious is there a subconscious
what are those things that what what is
the meaning of sexual attraction what is
the meaning of sexuality what is the
meaning of uh
fantasies and
and art and imaginary what does the
marxist view on these kinds of things
that many things are based on the you
know relations to the production it's
based on class
so how does that apply in real how do
you apply that in reality can you can
you apply that in reality how do you go
from relations of production in class to
for example furries explaining the
phenomena of furries
can you do that
well furries is just some
weird hobby that people do on this yeah
how is that how is that how can you
explain it in terms of the relations of
production and and that kind of thing
oh
usually people when they get involved in
this furry stuff
going into that culture or getting the
costumes and all of that
it's it's you know from commercial
influences sometimes it's influence from
now how does that relate to the
relationship production
well in a way it's it's a destruction
it's kind of like oh oh so so the way
you explain the way you explain furries
from marx's perspective is that yeah
there's just this distraction that
people get involved in and that's all
there is to it
basically yeah so why are they furries
so why are they furries
and
so why is there perversion why is there
why are there furries what does that
mean what is that
look for
furries comes from
people wanting to return to their uh you
know childhood influences wait wait wait
okay why would that be marxist why why
is that marxist what does that have to
do with marxism
and marx's marxist theory of
subjectivity that you're peddling and
you're saying is incompatible with lacan
and because you have a true marxist
theory of subjectivity yourself
look he
like you wanting to transition from
lacans to freeze i i don't get i don't
really okay okay i'm asking you what
your marxist theory of subjectivity is
what is the marxist serious subjectivity
instead of the instead of the lacanian
one
it's based off of individualism which is
generally what's based off of
individualism
um
the idealist
uh portrayal of you know of subjective
reality for example what's an example of
that
well an example of that would actually
be look on oh okay really how is la con
an individualist thank you how is the
khan an individual list if lacan says
that individual identities are
interpolated by the symbolic order which
is extra and supper individual and not
incarnated in any single individual how
is it an individualist view if lacan
begins with the mirror stage which is
actually about how individuals are
defined by their own otherness how is
that individualistic
well because he's already splitting
people up
with that line of thinking oh really how
is he doing that yes
well yeah like he's making um
people into one other he's making oh oh
so we're all one we're all okay so all
is one and that's the marxist view of
subjectivity it's just all is one right
i learned that actually when i was doing
psychedelics at uh lollapalooza last
year and i who would have not who would
have thought that that was the marx's
view of subjectivity is just that all is
one and there's no otherness and there's
no contradiction between individuals and
society and there's there's no
relationship between um
you know
human beings with each other there are
no different human beings we are all the
same exact thing
that's what i learned when i was taking
shrooms when i was out i took shrooms
last year on lollapalooza and i that's
really interesting you said that because
i didn't know that that was the marxist
theory of subjectivity thank you so much
for anything and elaborating upon that
look that's
you know you want to twist my words okay
and say something that i didn't say
that's fine if you want to debate
yourself that's okay but okay since we
are all one
since we are all one since we are all
one
since we are all one and we're not gonna
be dividing people
may i
um i'm not may i
may i
propose to your fiance
we are all one don't be dividing us
what's the issue you don't want to
divide us i'm not another person i'm not
another
what's yours is mine what's mine is
yours
right
um
you know like
feminism
this sort of psychology and this these
sort of idealist concepts yeah what's
idealist about it tell me tell me the
idealism
explain the idealism fine
don't know explain lacan's idealism go
ahead
well yeah like i mean him him trying to
portray
the other for example and that how does
he portray the other
how does he portray the other go ahead
explain it to us
that like he tries to complain that
speech and language are beyond the
the subject's control for example it's
not beyond a person's
control or their line of thinking or
when does he complain about that and
didn't didn't mark say that men and
women enter history but not as they
please and that they're defined by their
surroundings in ways that they have no
control over so why wouldn't that apply
to language
oh my god look he
he may make that point but he does also
argue that eventually
the downtrodden the oppressed will act
within their own interests
what does that mean what does that mean
well
in our current modern terms that means
forming a revolutionary party okay but
but mark said that men and women enter
into relations independently of their
will independently of their conscious
will
well that might not necessarily be
no well that's not necessarily true but
that's literally aggravating what he
said that's literally aggravating what
he said
well
yes but at the same time marx marx
literally said that the relations of
production precede our consciousness
precede our ideas and precede any
attempt to control over them whatsoever
that we have he said they come first
he said material reality comes first
okay
yeah being before okay so what's
idealistic
well there's no such thing as an
outbreak of grey algebraic symbolic
symbology
you're talking about the mathemates what
are the themes you understand them
what are the math themes referring to
what's their object
so
the theme
you're googling it right now i'll give
you a second keep going
keep going what are the books you've
read on lecon by the way
you sound very well educated and you
sound very well educated on the matter
what are the books you've read on the
con
look uh i
huh
sorry i didn't hear you what books
look i i haven't read it about like uh
does your did your fiance read any books
because maybe i should talk to her
instead
why don't you put her on the mic i'll
talk to her instead maybe she read some
books
let's give women a chance let's hear
what women have to say first off she's
in ethiopia no no a lot of women
she's white
she's in ethiopia right now she's in
ethiopia we'll put her on the phone
we'll talk to her
oh my
um
i don't understand why you want to
make women into the other
oh i don't want to make them into either
i want us all to be one i don't want to
make them in the other i want to i want
us all to be one
i want us all to be one
and that's why
i think we should
gather together
me you
um
and
if she so agrees to it your fiance will
have lunch
and i'll i will propose to her as well
and see what she responds as i'll
propose this to both of you and i will
be the third wheel of the relationship
i'm not other i'm not a stranger
we are all one
look
i don't understand
why
you want to advocate for somebody that
ended up being a sadistic narcissist
okay what was moses moa's
what does that have to do with lakon's
theories
well it's an inevitable result of his
theory well angles slept angles angles
slept with everyone's wife did you know
that frederick angles he slept with
everyone's wife
he did not sleep with everyone yes he
did he literally was piping every single
person in town everywhere he went he was
piping yes he was he was piping
everybody
do you actually have a source for this
yes i do look it up
literally look it up he would write
about it to marx in his letters
angles literally slept with everyone
including other people's wives
engels had a polygamous relationship
with his wife and his sister no he
didn't he literally would just sleep
around
all right
tell me this source tell me where you've
got look at that
look it
up okay
angle sleeps around let's see
look up angles sleep with person's wife
person's life
what was so uh bad about lacan by the
way what did he do though so evil
what was so evil about what he did well
i don't understand why his own wife
would spit on his grave after he died
that's kind of a red flag right there
especially when he was maybe he broke
her heart maybe he broke her heart
thank you sean maybe he broke her heart
see you
yeah i
broke your heart but imagine being that
vindic vindictive as an ex-wife
well it usually doesn't happen okay it
usually doesn't happen so what what's
your point that's all i have to do
what's your point he he was he was
involved in a lot of drama with a lot of
women so what so was angles
i have been too i've been involved in
drama
i've broken hearts that's your own
floats yeah i have broken hearts i've
broken hearts that is actually your
broken hearts no you've also
um
made very sexist and egregious comments
um
actually actually that actually actually
no
that dirt bag has he actually wrote an
entire uh he wrote an entire sub stack
that actually revealed everything
actually happened and
i disagree with it so much right but
that sorry that's just not what he said
and another thing too is that um i watch
luna oy every single day so how dare you
i watch luna oy every single day before
i go to bed and i really look up to luna
oy and
um
i am a big fan okay to say the least
i'm a feminist okay just like you we're
both feminists here
um
well i'm on the debate to kind of argue
against that i don't think somebody
who's
bragging about domineering women on a
regular basis can be called i have never
domineered any i have never domineered
any women as a matter of fact
every time i am graced with the ability
for a woman to so much as speak to me
i
cry
because of how beautiful it is that
after so much oppression by men
women would give me a chance and forgive
me and i just thank them for 70 days
every single day
and i give them
good morning beautiful takes and good
morning beautiful and i give them
paragraphs pontificating upon my
thoughts and one day
they may so as to grace me with sexual
intercourse which
mind you i will be very gentle
very gentle
i will be very very
soft and i will make sure
that
um my
ep is small
because i don't want them to be hurt
i actually am going to the doctor to get
penis reduction surgery because i don't
want to hurt
women
by the way um i still haven't found this
uh claim that anglos has slept around
with another person oh i'll look it up
okay
um let's look it up so i still haven't
seen that by the way
how frederick angle's radical lover
helped him father
angles
there's literally a bunch of [Β __Β ]
pdfs
angles and women
intimately of pleasure agency
so it's just talking about uh his wife
and his sister
but but that's kind of known
and that was done with consent of all
parties so it's not like this i didn't
call him a rapist i didn't call him a
rapist i said he's he slept with
people's wives and he slept around
obviously it was consensual
no i'm i'm just talking about your claim
that he was sleeping with other wives
other than yes he was uh the wife and
the sister
okay
where is that
where's that claim i don't see it
anywhere
just point look it up if you if you're
educated you'll be able to find it just
look it up you're on google you're
googling this whole time
well
yeah because you told me to look it up
and i still can't find it anywhere man
i'm finding the his wife and his sister
which is you know well known about but
i'm i'm not what about sister still
can't
it engel's wife and his wife's sister
because they had that polygamous
relationship but i don't
know
where you can find he talked about it
with marx and who's who's that one of
those young hegelians guy that he's
angle slept with his wife
was he talking about again was it moses
hess
so it was a letter to moses has
sybil
sybil pass
sybil pech
in order to redress the unjust
privileged society although they remain
happily married until his death sybil
may have had an affair with frederick
engels while he was smuggling her from
belgium to france to be reunited with
her husband that's one of the first
cases
have where is this
look it up frederick angles moses has
wife
friedrich engels
friedrich engels
moses has wife
now i'm just asking this because um
before when you had a debate with uh
rainer shea you had said something about
the indigenous tribe in oklahoma being
disproportionately large in comparison
to the rest of the ratio
indigenous tribe in oklahoma doesn't
have any uh it doesn't have any [Β __Β ]
sovereignty so that was actually a lie
by ray
it's actually not true
well in that case both of you were lying
because you would lied about saying that
the reason why you can do that is
because
they were they they were they were
bigger in the region that they're in
well
not not according to the statistics it's
the same ratio as uh nationwide
okay show us so
tell us
their population distribution in
western oklahoma or whatever eastern
oklahoma in relation to the rest of the
country it's not i don't know are you
talking on your ass
by the way
by the way did you know p doesn't come
out of the butt right
yes i know that okay i'm just making
sure a lot of misogynists are going
around saying that and i just want to
make sure you know that
continue
so okay so eastern oklahoma
by the way did you know hold on did you
know i know that women don't pee out
women do not pee out of the butt did you
know i knew that
and i know that because i'm a feminist
by the way
okay
yeah
did you john did you know
how many did you know women have three
holes
uh
i don't know
why
you have decided to make it your
business to assert what's going on with
the lord did you know did you know that
nah he didn't know that did you yeah i
got him
we got him
we got him he didn't know that you
didn't know that did you yeah there is a
third hole
yup
look i i he didn't know about my fiance
and i know about my ex-girlfriends nah
you didn't know i told you
look i'm you
you
you
you
you
need to become a better feminist
you are harming women's rights
you are harming women's rights
how am i harming women's wives because
you don't acknowledge the urethra you
don't pay enough attention to it and you
don't talk about it enough say the
urethra's name say its name the urethra
say its name
sexist pig
okay there's
urethra
why are you okay over there or whether
women have tools i am not obsessing over
it you pig i am not obsessing over just
because you don't know how women pee or
how vaginas work doesn't mean i'm
obsessing over it i'm a male feminist
okay
you are obsessing over it no i'm not you
need to know you need to know how women
pee
you need to know how women pee or they
will never have rights
i don't know why you've lost your mind
no i haven't you're harming women's
rights
you're harming women's rights say its
name
say its name
oh my
say its name
three holes not two say its name
uh
say it look if you wanna say it look if
you wanna argue with yourself go ahead
no no say its name
continue continue
sexist pig i'm not going to be okay sex
is pig continue
oh so you're giving up
i'm not giving up i'm okay sexist pig
continue
continue
i'm continuing um and yeah once again i
still haven't found uh
your the angles sleeping with angles
moses has wife
angles moses has wife
so i just
so that's a
wikipedia article
okay
and that's all it is really it's just a
claim from wikipedia
um okay look at the footnotes
the incident may have precipitated jesus
split from the communist movement
a life event frederick angles
angles
page 89. has his influence angles use
aspirations of silver peach to brand him
as an individual unworthy of the support
of the workers
okay base where
usually because their passport was not
in order asked angles to smuggle so
beach crossed the frontier from bounds
of france and once he in paris her
conflict was to bring heads into
discredit
angles wrote to marx that madame has
longs for a husband and pokes fun at
heads later he declared that the lady
had made amorous overtures to him and
offered to reveal to him the secrets of
her bed chamber at the dead of night s
was furious with angles and wrote the
marks i didn't want anything more to do
with your party
sounds sound scandalous
it was her right and hess was a sexist
pig for not letting it happen
but it sounds pretty scandalous to me
okay
so this is from
do you
do are you allow yourself to get pegged
i do not
really
i thought you believed in equality
okay
um
i thought you believed in equality
this is
like first of all first off whatever
happens in the bedroom of america no
no
no it's not private no it's not private
yes it is that's bourgeois
reactionary patriotic chauvinist
slander
the bedroom is political the private is
political
you [Β __Β ] sexist pig chauvinist piece
of [Β __Β ]
so are you saying the same thing about
uh marx and engels because that's what
they had said about what the
relationship no they didn't well marx
and engels were old marx and engels were
old white
males
if you didn't know you [Β __Β ] sexist
chauvinist pig
are you going to be saying the same
thing about rosa lunzenberg because she
was a mark
oh i love rosa luxemburg
you do yes
because she basically went along the
same line no she didn't
no she did not rosa luxemburg
said that sex workers were the true
working class
look it up
okay she did rosa luxemburg was the
champion of sex workers
so i think you've tried to
characterize me in a way that i'm really
not and i really understand it really
really like swerf yeah yeah swerf
swerf
swerf
swerf
cancelled
you're cancelled do you know that you're
cancelled
how dare you use sexist pig
or what
because
you hate you hate sex workers
i'm generally against
really
how many holes are there how many holes
are there
i
it's not my business oh it's not your
business typical male behavior it's not
your business
you know in a truth in a true feminist
world in a true feminist world
men would use their mouth as the toilet
bowl and then it would be their business
now wouldn't it
look if that's what we have to save the
environment
we are wasting we are wasting a lot of
water with toilets and toilet bowls and
men who were
destroying the planet
have to take responsibility
and
all i have to say to
my fellow men
is open wide
and you will know about the third hole
look you want to do reactionary
reactionary
that's up to you reactionary
[Applause]
the planet is dying
you [Β __Β ] sexist pig
you know you've kept this role for a
long time man no kind of amazed you're
able to keep this you literally
desecrate the ground
and our plant allies of the indigenous
folk
you're on stolen indigenous land you pig
and while you've got more perseverance
on this role than a five-year-old i
appreciate you are on stolen indigenous
indigenous land
stolen
oh
while you destroy the planet
okay
um
do you want to know what my politics
actually are or not or do you want to
actually have a conversation do you hold
on do you are you vegan are you a vegan
no i'm not
what
i'm not a vegan i'm not even a
vegetarian you scumbag
speciesist
so you're better than animals
you you you're a murderer meat is murder
and you're killing the planet
meat is murder
meat is murder
you know there are you don't even know
where pee comes from you don't even know
where p comes from
you don't even know how women's vaginas
work you [Β __Β ] pig
you're sitting here eating meat
okay
yeah
yeah by the way did you know that p
doesn't come out of the butt
ah
you didn't
[Β __Β ] virgin i don't know i don't i
don't know what value uh your viewers
seem to get out of any of this
okay well let's debate then what do you
want to debate about
well i mean let's talk about why you
think dugan is uh
is a great intellect let's go with that
what what do you know about dukin what
are dugan's views
what is dugan's primary views
so he starts off his book by saying that
marxism is failed
yeah did it fail in the soviet union
no he said the ideology in general has
failed was was he wrong to say that and
was that wrong to say in the 1990s
after the collapse of the soviet union
an entire marxist block and the
worldwide marxism the movement of
marxism the soviet union the eastern
bloc most major communist states was it
really uh
really crazy to say that in the 1990s
when most marxists by the way weren't
even able to make sense of that and why
that happened besides in china which was
pretty remote and uh not well known in
the place and dugan was primarily
talking about soviet style marxism
leninism which indeed did fail
objectively did fail
so the book he wrote it in 2012 well
well well russia was a victim of u.s
imperialism
and marxism couldn't defend russia from
u.s imperialism and the soviet union
collapsed the so-called self-proclaimed
marxist and the soviet union sold out
the soviet union they sold it out to
america and they sold everything off to
america and the russian people were
victims of american imperialism so was
dugan really uh an evil person for
saying that
so first off the real marxist voted
against the collapse of the soviet union
um
why couldn't they prevent it
which part which party oversaw the
collapse of the soviet union which party
well that's kind of a straw man which
party which party
was actually
the party i argue was actually
infiltrated why did they fail why don't
you do self-criticism why did they fail
why did they fail
because of infiltration
infiltration how were they how how how
were they how how did they allow that
infidel huh
well
why did that infiltration happen how did
they allow it part of
part of what incentivized it is that
they didn't reach uh political
rapprochement with the bourgeois parties
the way china did
why why why why
why hold on
what what was the prejudice stagnation
and what was the issue of culture in the
soviet union during the 70s and 80s why
wasn't the
soviet marxism leninism able to satisfy
these spiritual demands and cultural
demands of the soviet people at the time
what was the crisis in the issue going
on
it was dogmatic they took a dogmatic
approach okay but they okay so is is is
it is it dugan's fault that that's his
only acquaintance with what marxism is
it's he wrote it in 2012 there are yeah
so what what is is it wrong is it wrong
for him to say in context that marxism
did fail
because it actually did as far as he was
concerned as far as his familiarity with
it is concerned
and also i didn't ask you what dugan
thought about marxism which i obviously
disagree with
i asked you one of his main ideas what
are dugan's main ideas what is he trying
to say what's where's his stick where's
he coming from what is he known for
his ideas are basically about the
defense of tradition to go along with uh
the ideas of defending the collective
what does that mean and why what is it
what does that mean and why and what's
the bigger context
well the bigger context is for him to to
believe what book is dugan known for
what what book is dugan most known for
around the world
the fourth political fear no it's not
what's the main book he's known for
that's taught in the russian military
i think it's uh
the one about making a greater eurasia
right foundations of geopolitics it's
called the foundations of geopolitics
yeah yeah that one that one so it's the
one about making a greater eurasia and
having what are his main ideas in the
book
so i mean it's really russian
centrism that one to be honest i haven't
really
dealt with although dugan is the first
russian centrist centrism guy in the
world
he's not really the first centuries he's
not the first one to advocate for
monarchy but
is that is that what dugan's really
doing in that book is that the main
thrust
is is that the main thrust of dugan's
book is to advocate for monarchy
who's dugan's number one influence
um
dugan's
main
well i think it's really just
theocratic element
that's basically what i get from reading
the book you didn't read the book
why are you you actually didn't read the
book
if you read the book you'd be able to
answer my questions you can't answer my
questions
well i'm
more focused on kind of like the main
ideas themselves what are the main ideas
what does dugan represent what does he
represent
he represents russian collectivism on a
pro-monarchist
line of things really is that is that
the main thrust is that is that really
what defines dugan is monarchism
it's
monarchism the idea of the collective
maybe no it's not ideas
and is anti-liberal
okay he's anti-liberal what does that
mean
like like he doesn't um
he's anti-liberal and uh he calls
himself any capitalist
but really what he's
you don't know anything about dugan you
don't know anything about dude you never
read him in your life so i don't know
why you're complaining about him
can you give me one unique insight that
dugan has
well how about this one uh the left and
the right are
on the periphery there's no
um
they are on the periphery they are in
the periphery we are ruled by a
fundamentally centrist
ruling class how how are the right the
right and left are on the periphery what
are you [Β __Β ] talking about
so is
is this just your moral relativism
talking again
where you say that oh so you think the
republicans and democrats are really
you think there's a real difference
between marco rubio
and um the democrats there is none
there's no difference i i argue actually
that they're both fascist parties
okay both of them are both the democrats
and the republicans what did dugan say
about fascism especially recently after
the ukraine experience
well
i'm gonna go by the the book i didn't
actually hear his comments okay ukraine
but
um
going by the book he had basically
argued it was just about
um
countering liberalism and going back to
tradition no it was this line of
thinking about what uh that's that's
actually not true
well that's what he had said i just was
going by what he wrote no dugan said
that fascism was a failed projection of
both liberalism and communism and then
he recently says
that fascism is a form of uh
anti-human
and fundamentally liberal in modern
pathology he rejects fascism
and he also completely rejects racism
and autism
did you know that okay
so why did he write in this book that it
was a way of opposing liberalism
because he thought it was
so he thought he thought it was a fair
he also said communism was a way of
opposing liberalism
well it still is
in many ways
says he rejects both of these uh
rejections of liberalism he says these
are not able to overcome liberalism
but that's not sad
well you could disagree with him but
that's that's not that's not his main
idea though what's the main thrust of
his idea
the fourth political theory is dugan's
attempt
to answer to the inadequacies of marxism
leninism now does he do that
successfully probably not but he at
least recognizes there's inadequacies in
the mainstream way it was being
interpreted
and
second of all well you haven't answered
me what are you doing's main ideas what
are his main insights
those are what i believe his main ideas
and insights are because that's not but
that's not his main ideas and main
insights what are his views about
geopolitics what does dugan say about
geopolitics
well it's it sounds very
russian-centric
it's what does dugan say about russia
what did you say about russia what does
he say about russia well
well i mean he's
he's made many times you know
anti-anti-immigrant remarks about making
sure to preserve the collective
collective when is dugan spoken against
immigrants because do i recall dugan
saying that anyone who speaks against
muslims is trying to
promote separatism and is an enemy of
the russian people in the russian state
anyone who antagonizes muslim immigrants
he said anyone who antagonizes muslim
immigrants is by nature an enemy of the
russian state and the russian people
well that's because some of them are
coming from tajikistan which was a
former member of the soviet union
okay so i mean
when did dugan say
what are dugans use on racism
is dugan an ethno-nationalist
well yes in my opinion he is oh what are
some what's some evidence that he's an
ethno-nationalist
well
when he had an interview with uh
these two ladies who came by the
conservative ladies from the us and he
was happy laura southern
yeah yeah
so what he talks to anyone who will
literally talk to anyone
yeah but
i'm talking about what he actually said
to them what he said what he had said to
them
well what he had said to them is um
trying to resist and um
so
many people want to make individualist
arguments when trying to oppose and
suppress um you know
too much immigration but he had said
that we should be thinking about the
collective okay i agree with that you
should be thinking about the collective
and i'm i'm i'm not against immigrants
and i do think we should think about the
collective realities
we should think about the collective
realities of course we should otherwise
you're going to have racism and you're
going to have problems you're going to
have tensions you do have to take into
account and you do have to think of it
from a collective perspective
you do have to take into account that on
both sides these people come from
radically different cultures and if you
don't reckon if you don't recognize
it at a collective level and you just
treat it as a matter of individualism
where everyone's just an individual and
they're the same thing you're going to
be ignoring the cultural tensions and
the racial tensions or whatever
does dugan think that
does dugan think that ethnicity by the
way comes from race and blood
uh
no i don't
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why why why were you taught to say all
these uh unfounded things about dugan
i'm not saying unfounded things i'm
reporting i'm literally quoting his his
tag
okay
the thing on the periphery for example
no relation and about making sure that
we go back to tradition
that's what he's talking about going
back to tradition why would you what is
what did he say about going back to
tradition
um
that that's the the main goal can you
quote
um
that that's also what julius ebola says
so what are renegade says so what is
dugan's unique insight here
well
that's that's what i believe his unique
insight is and i think that this well
can you can you provide receipts and
quote it because it's obviously not his
unique insight if rene guanon was saying
it 100 years earlier
okay
look
i will definitely say that um
when
when thinking about um
um
like
dugan's a claim that you have to
manage and decrease and control
immigration that you have to bring the
money yeah that you have but you do you
do have to manage immigration you can't
just
have you can't just have chaotic
movement of peoples without taking into
account the cultural
and the economic implications that's a
disaster you think you think you think
you think in communist countries they
had on i'm gonna drop the voice you
think in communist countries they had
uncontrolled immigration people just you
couldn't even immigrate internally
freely you you the populations were
controlled internally that's how
important it was to control populations
thank you so much tennessee
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what are you talking about how is the
the so-called open borders the liberal
idea of open borders where everyone's
just an individual and you don't take
into account the deeper collective
realities what does that have to do with
communism
i'm just wondering why there has to be
an uh an emphasis on ethnic purity
where does he where does he talk about
ethnic purity dugan literally said a
black man can become russian that's how
little he cares about so-called purity
yeah but he's mainly emphasizing russian
orthodoxy going along with the
traditions and going along with that
culture so he doesn't but what about
purity are you talking about a
fundamental standing standpoint it's
about
um
surrendering to a particular culture
surrendering to particularly
says that there are different hold on
all dugan says is that there's different
particular cultures and different in a
diversity of civilizations
and
those things are worth
um being true to instead of completely
liquidating them in the name of american
universalist liberalism what's wrong
with that
are you from ethiopia
are you from ethiopia
i'm from rwanda
okay rwanda is one of the
is a very unique culture and a very
unique civilization with very unique
traditions you think all those
traditions should just disappear
who's arguing for the disa appearance
well well dugan is saying that american
liberal american universalist liberalism
is trying to erase these different
particular cultures and make them all
into american liberal culture
oh that's not
love you don't you don't think that's
true
you don't think you don't think american
uh you don't think american uh global
globalization american-led globalization
is trying to threaten the particular and
unique cultures and identities of
various different peoples around the
world well actually no look like
i agree with that but him using that as
a straw man to justify um the
suppression of other cultures
when has he advocated for the
suppression of any culture
explicitly states that he doesn't want
um other people to come in and maintain
their culture that they have to follow
along when didn't know he didn't say
that when did he say that
with his fourth political theory when he
tells everybody that they have to go
along with the constitutional monarchy
voted definition
do it vote dugan doesn't believe in a
constitutional monarchy by the way if
anything he would believe in like an
absolute monarchy if he cared about
monarchy
he
openly says the national bolshevik party
is the closest to achieving his
political theory and the national what
year was this
what year was this
it's about a year it's in the book what
year what did was the book published in
which he said that 2012.
so in his book in 2012 he said the
national bolshevik party is closest
is closest to the fourth political field
why did he leave the national bolshevik
party then by that time he wasn't in the
national boasted party at that time
he left very early on
i can't
i can't really
say what's going on in his head but this
is what he wrote
tell me what he wrote
give me the page number
all right one moment one moment
okay the project of the of national
booster party which i in my time was
preparing to transform into an authentic
russian conscious national gulchism on
the foundations of the theories of
ustralayov nikish and the leftist
eurasianists alas degenerated at the end
of the 1990s into a hooliganism and
senseless organization and later started
to serve the anti-russian orange ultra
liberal powers fed by the west which
completely contradicts the fundamental
premises of national bolshevism which
represents both ethereum practice the
conscious left
being thus a strictly anti-liberal
russian patriotic and consequently
anti-anti-western project
so he literally says he left
the national bolshevik party because he
thought it degenerated into hooliganism
and so on and so on that's what he says
in the book
yeah but he at the same time he says
it's the closest so how are they the
closest where did he say it's the
closest
those same marginalized groups who
imitating european neo-nazism attempt to
bring out an ammo glam of national
socialism by name
were never gaussians insofar as they
imitate as a rule from a deficiency of
intellect the gadgets of hitler's regime
as it were continuing to play on at
soldiering in the sandbox or watching
the program accepting muslim spring
delighting
yeah this is so he's completely against
hitler and neo-nazism
yeah
but like he's arguing for
let me just try
so find the quote
still waiting
i'm going to read you what dugan has to
say about nazism in german national
socialism the historical subject is the
aryan race which according to racist
carries out the eternal struggle against
the subhuman races the appalling
consequences of this ideology are too
well known to dwell upon however
it was this original definition of a
historical subject that was at the heart
of the nazis criminal practices that's
what dugan has to say about nazism
in addition hitler's anti-semitism and a
doctrine that slobs are subhuman
and must be colonized is what led
germany to go to war against the soviet
union which cost us millions of lives
why don't you quote these parts
i'm just randomly searching racism and
reading every single one
european and american sides are
fundamentally afflicted with these types
of racism unable to eradicate them from
itself despite intensive efforts being
fully aware how revolting this phenomena
is people in the west tend to make
racism a taboo
however all this turns into a witch hunt
new pariah is accused of fascism are its
victims
thus this very political correctness and
its norms are transformed into a
totalitarian discipline of political
purely racist exclusions
in this manner institutionalized french
left liberal anti-racism has gradually
become the distribution center of racial
hatred
even africans suffer from being accused
of fascism so he's saying the liberal
form of anti-racism is actually
functionally in reality a form of racism
against immigrants and against other
people from other cultures who don't
conform to the politically correct model
such was the case of an unrestrained
defamatory campaign against a well-known
black comedian i can't pronounce his
name
who dared to mock
certain features of the contemporary
french establishment in his routines
that's what happened to dave chappelle
too by the way
yeah because
look
quite honestly
many of you
take the idea that people questioning
the or are you going to get the quotes
or not to challenge them we are going to
get the quotes or not
i'm i'm still looking for it sorry about
that but i'm just saying like
going back to what you had said earlier
about um the the campaign against dave
chappelle
um
he's not the first comedian to have gone
through
campaigns against them for objectionable
content he's not the first one and he's
not going to be the last actually really
well he can't get his film he can't he's
not he's being disinvited from film
festivals he can't avoid born donating
he can't get his uh movie anywhere the
next thing we should ask our resident
male feminist is where did he learn to
repeat all these lies about dugin and
who benefits the most from this thank
you yeah we want to know where did you
read all these lies about dugan and who
benefits most from the disinformation
um
i honestly got a lot of this
like i have the book read in front of me
i just can't seem to
find that quote
uh i'm i'm sorry about that but i
honestly like
most of my impressions of dual game come
from
what i've what i've read
where did you what did you read my own
personal opinion
what did you read
so i mean i
i got
um
really turned off maybe with the first
few few bits
because he was it sounded like a lot of
moral relativist arguments
and um
moreover him
claiming that marxism had failed in 2012
when there were um
when when you had seen the unprecedented
growth of china vietnam
during that time that that had nothing
to do with the form of marxism
first of all vietnam
does vietnam that none of that had to do
with the form of marxism dugan himself
was familiar with he does he didn't
engage with chinese marxist theorists
and hear their perspectives he was a
russian so he knows only about marxism
the experience of the soviet union
so you're saying he didn't know there
were marxists around the world
he did but he wasn't familiar with their
theories and uh their ideas
and i think dugan's right here and this
is something that's not shared by
chinese marxism an arrogant contempt for
the past a vulgar materialist
interpretation of spiritual culture a
focus exclusively upon economic factors
a positive attitude to the process of
creating a social differential through
the dictation of the proletariat
um and the idea of class is the only
historical subject
so
these are things that you don't find in
chinese marxism maybe besides the
dictatorship of the proletary thing but
even then it's very clear and dugan is
characterized thank you for fighting the
enemies of the american people thank you
so much conversely dugan is talking
about the majority of marxists there he
is talking about the majority of them
especially in his time they're very
dogmatic they're very much
saying this type of [Β __Β ]
marxism is relevant in terms of its
description of liberalism and
identifying the contradictions of
capitalism and its criticism of the
bourgeois system in revealing the truth
behind bourjois democratic policies of
exploitation and enslavement which are
presented as development and liberation
marxism critical potential is highly
useful and applicable
but if so marxism will not appear as an
ideology that provides answers to a full
range of emerging issues answers that
are rational and axiomatic in their
foundation
yeah
the marxism which we can accept is
mythic sociological marxism
i think dugan is open to the possibility
of marxism being revived and given new
perspective and he would probably be
open to it he's just saying as far as
the marxism we know now which i agree
with him it's been inadequate to address
the current realities and current
problems
well that's
russians
the russians being dogmatic about uh
marxism and abandoning it in 1991
um was just one event in political
history
most of the other he
raises a good point the first and most
prominent contradiction is marx's
unfulfilled prediction about the type of
societies that are most prone to those
with revolutions he was confident this
would take place in the greatly
industrialized countries of western
europe which had a high level of
manufacturing contained a large
proportion of urban proletariat such
revolutions were considered impossible
in agrarian countries as well as those
countries with an asiatic mode of
production due to their supposed
backwardness in the 20th century
everything that occurred to the exact
contrary you realize d colonial and
fenonian thinkers say the same thing
he's saying right now in his critique of
marxism right
you realize those people say the same
exact thing
sorry i missed that what did you do
socialist revolutions and social
societies developed in agrarian
countries which had a traditional rural
population while nothing similar
occurred in any of the highly developed
nations of europe and america
even in those countries where socialism
was victorious the dogma did not allow
for a rethinking of its basic logical
assumptions such as the reconsider the
role of pre-industrial factors or to
honestly evaluate the real power of myth
i think that's a fair criticism i don't
really necessarily disagree with that
then he goes and this is my favorite
part
he's talking about him
this is my favorite in the end european
revolutionary communists turned into
petty bouzoa clowns entertaining the
bored and jaded democratic public i
agree with that
i fundamentally agree with
that i think dugan seems like he's
alluding to this idea of
in his own way maybe i disagree with it
but he still wants to revive marxism and
he wants to
like he wants to salvage what he
considers important about marxism
um while deviating from what he
perceives to be its uh its dogmas sounds
to me like dugan
isn't really anti-marxist
all right so let me let me go to what i
said was basically
what i said along along the lines him
arguing that national bolshevik is the
closest so yet in any case
it's necessary to rethink the second and
third political theories in a new way
from a new perspective and only after we
reject our trust in those ideological
structures
orthodoxy is the most uninteresting
worthless
aspect cross reading them would be far
more productive marks through a positive
view of the right or a voila through a
positive view of the left this
fascinating
national bolshevik undertaking
in the spirit of nikolai v gustriala for
ernst sneaky
uh
he says it's not suspicio sufficient by
itself but he's arguing basically that
they're the closest
so
the fascinating okay so then the
so-called national bolsheviks predated
the nazis predated the so-called
national socialists so it's not a play
on nazism whatsoever these theorists
came from the 20s i'm not saying that
it's a play on nazism okay that's well
he's he dugan is obviously influenced by
the so-called national bolsheviks of the
20s
uh who by the way lenin critiqued very
briefly
um in his critique of left-wing
communism infiltration disorder
but he's basically saying they're not
sufficient by themselves
and he basically wants to go beyond even
them
well yeah he does but keep in mind that
uh lennon himself uh railed very
fiercely against the same social
patriots no he didn't no he didn't he
was railing against yes he did no listen
no no no he you're stupid he wasn't he
wrote a book called left wing communism
and infantile disorder which was mainly
um written to address the descent
created by the treaty of breslidvask
right where the soviets had to
compromise
and he was addressing the national
bolsheviks
who basically were saying no we need to
continue a revolutionary
war against the imperialist bourgeoisie
so the national bolsheviks lenin was
critiquing were anti-imperialists right
he was critiquing them as ultra leftists
in that book and he very briefly said it
is curious and i'm quoting him um
he called them social patriots no he
didn't
the social patriots
no he didn't the social patriots were
from the social democratic party and
left-wing communism and infantile
disorder the national bolsheviks were a
completely different phenomena whom he
was critiquing for their ultra-left
radicalism in relation to brexit vosk
and the need to seek peace
had nothing to do with the social
patriots of the social democratic party
because the national
bolsheviks were advocating after world
war one for like a revolutionary war
against imperialist britain and america
in an alliance with the german
bourgeoisie
after the war right as a form of
anti-imperialism not during the
imperialist war after the war
all right well i'll just um
try to find that uh
letter
that he wrote to the americans
and he wrote the what like he literally
like he wrote this letter to america and
he was actually complaining exactly
about the same people you're talking
about the one no he wasn't um wanted to
keep the fight going instead of signing
the piece
um
he was that was left-wing communism and
infantile disorder which was about
brexit vosk
so yeah like he's he's he's caught
criticized them many times in many
writings
he criticized the national bolsheviks
literally like once
in passing
okay well let me just let me just try to
find that uh
go ahead letter
all right
um i'll be able to quote it
quite
because he actually called them
closed captioning
so
yeah the right social revolutionaries
and metrofix also accuse us
let me see if i can find him using that
exact quote actually social
because i remember
that actually being used him saying that
exact term
and you know him quite arguing uh
arguing in this speech for the need for
the destruction of america actually
okay let's show us
show us where london advocates the
destruction of america
so a letter to american workers so
comrades
so we talked about how the civil war
i need to talk i need to find the part
about the destruction of america because
in this this is the letter where he
praises the history of america's
revolutionary tradition and compares the
russian revolution to the american
revolution so it's not really helping
your case can you explain where he
advocates for the destruction of america
in this letter
well not necessarily the destruction of
america quite literally but he does
advocate for civil war
um
and he talks about how that's going to
be a necessity can you um can you please
quote it
yeah yeah just
it sounds like lenin is trying to say
that the american bourgeoisie is
betraying the revolutionary legacy of
the american state the american workers
and their struggle against the
bourgeoisie should pick up the mantle of
the revolutionary past against the
bourgeoisie itself
yeah
can you please find where he talks about
the destruction of america
all right so the civil war
uh first they will be us okay so there
we go the american workers will not
follow the bourgeoisie they will be with
us for civil war against the bourgeoisie
so he literally says
the american workers will not follow the
they will be with us for civil war
against the bourgeoisie the whole
history of the world the american labor
movement strengthens my convictions that
this is so
and and the world's most beloved eugene
debs
and he's basically talk he's talking
about
in the period of war
in during the world war one where he's
advocating for the american workers
to go to war against the bourgeoisie
now the representatives and defenders of
the bourgeoisie and also the reformist
socialists who have been frightened by
the bourgeoisie and are shunning the
revolution
cannot
and do not want to understand that civil
war is necessary and legit
now so granted there was a world war
going on at the time
and that was
probably going to end up being their
choice
they were in the middle of a war it was
literally in the middle of a war and
lenin was appraising the situation as a
revolutionary situation if you check the
year it's 20th of august 1918. so lenin
thinks this is a revolutionary situation
at the time
yeah
um
but you need you need to under also
understand and at this time the
bolsheviks were banking on the
revolution to spread to europe and the
so-called advanced countries
and that was their idea according to
marx's orthodoxy that the revolution
would spread to the advanced countries
so they literally it was literally a
matter of faith that it was going to
happen
and that was what was going to save the
revolution
well yeah but i mean he's
also arguing in this
article here
that
it's going to be a vastly greater task
of overthrowing capitalist wage slavery
than
the old contemporary slavery and
he's talking about a period where there
was no world war
the overthrowing of negro slavery and
that needed a civil war
so he's actually arguing in general
that
in order to overthrow capitalism in
america lenin considered the american
civil war to be a revolutionary
situation in and of itself it was a
revolution
he appraised it as such
yeah but now when we are confronted with
the vastly greater task of overthrowing
capitalist wage slavery
so he's not necessarily talking about
america why are we now confronted with
it what are the circumstances and
conditions in which we are now
confronted with it is it just because
it's a matter of principle or is it
because of the actual material
conditions at the time which was the
state of world war and therefore
according to lenin a revolutionary
situation and also a situation of um
following the russian revolution which
lenin was thinking was going to spread
and he was wrong about that by the way
it didn't spread
it spread to hungary and then
attempted spread to other places
this ultimately was crushed in its
cradle
crushed
um
not necessarily the bourgeois had to
make concessions in europe
and they had to end the war
because it was threatening uh it wasn't
because of the revolutions whatsoever
that they ended the war
was the war it was uh the plague and yes
there was a strike wave throughout the
throughout europe it was not that was
not the reason the war ended whatsoever
the war ended because of
strike wave the panda no it wasn't
those were those were factors that
contributed to the end of the war
okay um
um also you know the treaty itself the
treaty of breslavas so it had nothing to
do with the united states entering uh
the war
and changing the game so profoundly that
it couldn't even be fought anymore by
the germans
um i
don't like
there's there's a lot of sensationalism
from americans that they're entering the
war
basically at the last minute was really
what changed the game i
i i don't what about the 100 days
offensive
what about the arrival of 1.4 million
american troops in france
and germany
sorry in france
and the overwhelming of germany what
about the food shortages
the illness
okay so the strikes and demonstrations
in berlin
contributed to it but the main thing was
america's entrance into the war
and the resilience of france and the uh
britain
and being able to repel germany
like
what about the withdrawal what about the
withdrawing of germany's allies like
austria-hungary and
the ottoman empire
yeah
like
all of those things are are factors in
in what ended the war
um well the rev the revolution did not
spread as was predicted
it did not spread as was predicted
because yeah the bourgeoisie took
measure
looking at the situation
in order
like there there are conscious class
they're going to find ways to
try to put a lid on it but even then
communist parties were still growing
um
largely
it was nothing it was nothing remotely
there you had it in the east like in
china but in western europe you had
pretty much nothing
you had a whole nothing burger as far as
the spread of the revolution was
concerned you had an ex you had an
adventure or some kind of experiment in
hungary which was an abysmal failure
you had the uprising in germany which
was also an abysmal failure
sorry
the
yes um
that uprising failed but uh the
communist party actually
stayed relevant and stayed strong it was
relevant but nowhere near enough to ever
be in a position to seize power
i mean we can always
it objectively was not
i
argue like if you were looking at the
polls and the and the figures of what
they were getting
numbers-wise and things like that they
they were growing
yeah they probably weren't going to be
able to seize the revolution tomorrow
but they were generally like they're
definitely a lot stronger than the
parties here
for example i'll give you like that's
just one example that's one comparison
um
like i don't think um
parties can really perform much worse
than the ones in the subtler colonies
but
generally um
like
it's arguable that the socialists the
socialist party led by eugene debs
arguably performed better than the
communists in germany did
the american socialists
american socialists arguably performed
better
um
like uh
like those socialists ended up being you
know opportunist in a lot of ways like
colluding with the democrats for example
things like that and accepting certain
compromises that lenin didn't think so
lenin thought that eugene debs was the
leader of the american proletariat
well uh that ended up not working not
working out did it
and
honestly
failing to look at the multinational
character of the country is the root of
the failures of the communist movement
what is your overall point here what is
your overall point
so my overall point is
that um
like particularly in canada and in the
us generally
um we
need to actually look at
what we're actually being patriotic for
um
like when when it comes to
looking at uh what we need for
uh to build revolutionary conditions in
a revolutionary situation
i think a lot of the times when people
advocate for this
socialist patriotism and they're against
the idea of returning
sovereignty to the land nationalizing
the land what is the what is the
revolution what's your revolution
a revolution is uh
the
overthrow of the existing society the
existing orthodoxy
and the existing
um
production
existing relationship
by the
by revolutionary forces the
revolutionary class at the time when it
was
so is it a result of class struggle
yes it's a result of what form does
class struggle take
a revolution
no what form does the class struggle
take
so it can take
it could take shape in many ways
sometimes it's in
labor struggles okay go go do that then
go do it
see how it works out go do it i'm in the
party i'm doing it we are doing what
party you're in i feel
the communist party of canada okay
you're in the communist party of canada
go do it
we're doing we're gonna do it keep doing
it i'm not stop how am i stopping you
we're not stopping you but i want to
did you read the communist manifesto
yes
is that book said the class struggles
it's been a while since i've read that
that book said the class struggle is
actually national in form
but if you think it's not national
informed go ahead and see what's gonna
happen it is national and foreign but
this is these are multinational
countries both canada and the us are
multinational
so
um if we want to have um a revolution
that succeeds we have to be reticent of
the right you want something that
doesn't exist
do you know what a revolution is a
multinational country you don't think
this is a multinational country
uh canada or the us you don't think
they're multinational
are you saying that they're not
multinational so let me explain to you
what's going on
you want a reality that doesn't exist
right
so you're saying we need a revolution to
make our current reality that reality
right
well we need to advocate for it yes or
no
yes or no
yes
we need to make this you know oh then
hold on what revolution in history has
ever proceeded on those terms
on what
on the terms of i want a reality so i'm
gonna do a revolution to make that
reality
name one revolution in history that was
like that
that changed the
no
conditions or what do you mean by that
i mean a revolution being carried out
because individuals wanted
their reality to be different
um
not just individuals but
the masses generally when you are okay
name one name one another the program
name one in history name one name one
so the russian no the russian
revolutions
the russian revolution was not a [Β __Β ]
example of that the russian revolution
happened because the bolsheviks
correctly articulated the national
conditions
and reality
do i have to mute you
uh haas can you still hear me i can hear
you now
okay okay
yeah yeah you're sounding better now
the russian revolution was not
a case of uh people getting around and
masses simply wanting a new reality it
was about the way in which masses
specifically led by the bolsheviks
correctly articulated the existing
national reality and seized hegemony
over the russian nation proving
themselves to be worthy of inheriting it
and its continuity
specifically the russian civilization i
should say instead of nation
so if you're claiming that they
basically wanted to preserve certain
things but improve the certain uh yeah
the conditions every single revolution
in history is conservative
okay well why did um
now
here's here's my uh do you know what
revolution means
the word yes the revolution what is it
it comes from turning of the wheel it
means
turning of the situation is it only of
the wheel
no it just means transformation how is
the transformation if you're just
returning how is the transformation if
you're just returning to the same place
well when you
spin a wheel you don't end up in the
same place you move you go oh you don't
listen
a revolution is literally a 360 degree
movement
of the wheel yeah 360 degrees
of the wheel but not what the wheel is
moved
it is literally returning it is
literally movement
it is literally movement to return to
the same place you were before
a return to tradition
like dugan has claimed
maybe not true maybe
maybe it's precisely what they were
trying to
they specifically advocated for the
upending of the current
um relations
yeah and what actually happened what
actually happened
what actually [Β __Β ] happened as a
result though they restored russian
civilization they restored the legacy of
the pre-romanov russian civilization
under stalin
no they didn't yes they did
yes they [Β __Β ] did they overthrew the
westernized and germanized aristocracy
and allowed the civilizational character
of the russian people to dominate the
state
and preponderate the form of the state
that's exactly what happened under
stalin
he said as much he said peter the great
was a westernizer and ivan the terrible
was a good conservative fighting against
the foreign influences
to preserve the unique russian
civilization that's what he said
now
yeah that's that might be his particular
take but i don't remember any society
before
the romanovs where women were voting
or where um the peasants owned the land
so presidents owned the land presidents
owned the land under napoleon
napoleon gave the peasants land when he
freed them from serfdom
peasants owned the land after the french
revolution
no in in many ways he argued for you
know private relations and it ended up
creating the cool out
so like it's who created the lock
well the kulas
came from the
you know private from the logic of
private ownership of the means of
production
the the land was collectivized and it
was under the ownership of the state
under the revolution
so it was very different
they um the call causes were very
different um
organization of peasant society from
what was going on before i mean this
argument that is
this was not something brand new is kind
of a ridiculous one honestly okay but
all you said was that the peasants owned
the land i don't get what the [Β __Β ] your
point is
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so
my argument that it's
like
the peasants on the land yes it was the
first social estate in history what is
your point
no one denied it was the first socialist
or communist state in history what is
your [Β __Β ] point that's
my point is um revolution is inherently
so what is socialism what does socialism
do
socialism is about moving forward it's
not about moving back it's about what is
the content of that what does that look
like
what is back you did only you could only
say that if you take the past for
granted what if you don't know the past
what if there's aspects of the past
you've either taken for granted
forgotten or didn't even know about what
if the past
is itself eternal why is the only the
future eternal why not the past two
what if you just take the past for
granted and there's things in the past
that are waiting to be revived so now
now you've gone in completely different
uh directions okay go forward
go go go go forward and wear star trek
you're gonna wear the star tread souks
how on the one hand can you star
that's what communism was about right
star trek
how on you one hand can you argue about
going back and yet at the same time rail
against the idea
of the of the land and uh being returned
to indigenous nations
how can you on the one hand
because because because
here's why
how can you say both of these things at
once and be consistent yeah i do not
understand that yeah it's very simple
i've never i didn't say we can't give
the indigenous people land back
because uh
you can't go back in time per se
i just said there's a fundamental
dialectic of modernity
which i would agree with in the soviet
case as well that in order to return to
the past you have to accept as
inevitable now as far as indigenous
people are concerned i never i never
said i was against
allowing them to have sovereignty
secession or national determination
whatever form they see fit i've just
rejected the idea that the united states
has no basis of existence and that it
has to be completely dissolved in the
entire land mass from seaboard to
seaboard of u.s territory has to be
given to indigenous people that's
literally all i [Β __Β ] said i never
[Β __Β ] said i'm against indigenous
people having their own land or
governing their own territories or being
completely separate sovereign states
even i've never said that not even once
now um taking all those conditions into
consideration
um
is something that actually i brought
forward to a lot of people in your camp
and they vehemently opposed it too even
though um
it seems to be a viable plan for many of
the communists in in canada it is about
having a lower house where you have
proportional representation in an upper
house of nations
the land itself is nationalized
completely
you have certain nations having okay you
want me to tell you what i think about
canada
but but
well it's the same conditions
i'll tell you what i think about canada
why don't you hold your horses
because i actually believe the united
states should fully annex canada and cut
it off from the british commonwealth
entirely canada is not an independent
state it's still a colony of the british
commonwealth and it's technically under
the sovereignty of the british crown
which means it's an enemy of the united
states the british crown is the enemy of
the united states and the american
people and it is my view that we cannot
share a border
with
the british crown
which we fought a war of independence
to
expel
and a territory which was used in 1812
to come and burn down the white house
so as far as canada is concerned i do
not recognize the legitimacy of the
canadian state or the sovereignty of
canada whatsoever
so
you you want to
get upset about the fact that the uh the
us white house was burned down
they're our enemy canada is the enemy
canada is a historical enemy of the
united states
it's an agent of the british empire it's
a subject of the british empire and it's
ruled by the queen of england
so if if the us is truly independent and
not a member of the of the british
empire then why officially we're not but
we have been infiltrated and colonized
by the british empire in the form of in
the intelligence agencies which all came
from britain
the cia was an offshoot of the oss which
was created by the british empire
so
so ultimately
you're saying that noble's in charge of
the co in of the country which were
which we're talking about the ruling
class essentially they're they're from
families uh
nobles from different parts of europe
that's really what they what they are
they're the makeup largely british but
you know from
different persuasions and that's what
makes up the the united states
um
and yet you want to claim
that um
the us is a sovereign enemy of canada
but
all of that kind of presupposes that the
border that's written out or the
independence of the us itself was
somehow legitimate yes it was legitimate
a war was fought for it so yes it's
legitimate any any european country
which wants a piece of our land is gonna
have to come and take it the same way we
took it so yeah it is [Β __Β ] legitimate
you talk about how you stole it from the
indigenous people in reality we took it
from the [Β __Β ] european empires who
were going to take the westward land
anyway
no they weren't yes they [Β __Β ] were
spain and france had designs on the
american continent they absolutely
[Β __Β ] did
well they did but here's the reason why
um the
uh the us patriots sided with the french
and and opposed the british it was the
strategic maneuver it was just a
strategic maneuver
yeah but ultimately it was about doing
the west westward expansion and no it
wasn't british no it [Β __Β ] wasn't it
was ultimately about
seceding from the united kingdom and
establishing a republic by foreign of
the people simple as that
so why did 11 years after the revolution
did
the shae's rebellion happen
because 11 years after the revolution
the shea's rebellion ended up happening
and that
was
rooted in the fact that the
the same people the same ground units
that had fought for independence
with a promise of you know lower taxes
and whatever were instead
uh being uh being imposed even higher
taxes than what they had before
and the constitution itself as was
written by the way
um shea's rebellion is rumored to have
been instigated by
british agents
anyway well why did why did they why why
was there rebellions and uprisings
against the bolshevik government in the
aftermath of the revolution in russia
well yes there was infiltration but the
conditions themselves were pretty bad
because they were coming out of a civil
war so the conditions in the united
states weren't bad
other conditions in the united states um
uh were bad but another
underlying reason why the constitution
came out in the way that it did was
because there was precedence established
by uh the british against um
it was gonna lay the power for the
abolition of slavery that's what ended
up happening
what evidence do you have that the
british were going to abolish slavery in
the americas
it was it was about the court judgment
and what courts had set the president
which yeah which court just was a court
um it's a court judgment made
see if i can find
because
yeah like what i'm trying to say is on
the so
may 1772 there was a significant court
judge
it also kind of instigated the war
um
and
what did the court judgment say it
didn't i didn't necessarily somerset
versus stewart what was the court
judgment
relating to the right of an enslaved
person on english lawyer to not be
forcibly removed from the country and
sent to jamaica is that what you're
referring to
yeah so what does that have to [Β __Β ]
do with the usa
oh because
um there were there were um states that
actually accepted that judgment after
the uh the independence so connect
connecticut vermont they used that
beginning during the revolutionary war
northern states began to abolish or rule
against maintaining slavery vermont was
the first in 1777.
yeah that's what i'm talking about so
so using that as a basis
this somerset decision was an important
in anti-slavery constitutionalism
what the literal [Β __Β ] are you talking
about
you think the americans
rebelled because of somerset when
somerset was the inspiration i did not
say they rebelled because of somerset so
why did you bring it up
got it out because that was the the
basis for the constitution
um after what had happened with the
chase rebellion after the declaration of
independence and the war and all of
these other things like all those it was
part of the
anti-slavery constitutionalism
well
no the the constitution ended up
embedding slavery and there's an act why
because why would it embed slavery on a
ruling
that was a
foundation
for anti-slavery constitutionalism
so they were trying to oppose what had
um
what was happening with uh all of the
states accepting that precedence because
who was who was
under threat
um the founding fathers the ones that
wrote the so
what what are you specifically referring
to because
there's no evidence that the somerset
decision
was
promoting slavery later
was promoting i'm not saying that it was
i'm saying that it threatens the
institution of slavery yeah i agree it
did i the founding fathers
did not consider slavery an institution
that they wanted to uh
have forever they thought slavery was
the scandal
on the founding of the republic and it
was tolerated in the south
because um according to them and this
was their view
um so they couldn't afford any stuff
that they were
the southern states we find that
you'll actually find that bourgeois
politicians talking out of
both sides of their mouth is a
time-honored american tradition
so they were doing that while at the
same time having um plantations owning
slaves
um yeah that that's that's not listen
listen
that has nothing that has nothing to you
are just personalizing it you are just
[Β __Β ] personalizing it they could have
been the biggest scumbags they could
have been pedophiles they could have
been rapists they probably were they
could have been the most deranged sick
twisted [Β __Β ] individuals but that has
nothing to do with their historical
political significance for world history
believe it or not the
the um the popularis in ancient rome
came from the patrician class and yet
they represented the people outside of
the position class right so what you're
doing trying to [Β __Β ] personalize it
does not give us any [Β __Β ] insight
about the relationship between the
american war of independence and slavery
okay
so the american
war of independence was
about
ultimately
preserving the colonies and being able
to expand westward after the british
conceded to the indigent no it's not
that's not that's not what it was about
it was about seceding
it was about seceding from the british
empire because the united states
established its own independent economic
foundation and the british empire was
acting as a parasite which was stealing
the [Β __Β ] money from the american
colonies without giving them any
representation politically
taxation without representation but what
happened when they revolted the taxes
ended up being higher on the on the same
people that fought yeah it was being
taxes being taxes being levied by a
government that was representing the
people
the government was not represented yes
it [Β __Β ] was it was a republic and
they had representations in the [Β __Β ]
congress and in the [Β __Β ] institution
of the republican government
so why wasn't everybody allowed to vote
only a minority was allowed to avoid
yeah that's that's the history of
[Β __Β ] all the european republics and
democracies at the time
there was no universal
suffrage it was only white for the slave
owners what freedom for the slave owners
yeah
or for the property owning males
the property owning males yeah
what's your point the slave wonders
but that would eventually be the that
would eventually be the bedrock upon
which universal suffrage would be
expanded to everyone
including former former slaves until
1960
yeah
it was it wasn't expanded up until 1960
and the country that you're saying
what is your point what is your point
what point are you
you're pointing out a contradiction that
was only created because they said we
the people so what's your point yes it
was a hypocrisy and a contradiction and
because of that they eventually did have
universal suffrage like what is your
point by pointing out that hypocrisy
they they they were the ones who
declared universal uh rights of man or
at least uh we the people and that the
people of the united what is your
[Β __Β ] point they're the ones who went
out they didn't say we the white owning
property males and yet in practice
that's what they did but that's not what
they said so they laid the very
foundations for it to be expanded to
everyone so what's your point
there was no foundations for it to be
expanded to everyone
um
most of the people were being killed off
on the west end
um and
like that's still ongoing
and
to understand that really what both of
these countries are canada and united
states are actually
military occupations
by colonies
so
like it's it's kind of
your argument that because they fought
against the british or got independence
in some way means that they're not
necessarily a colony
um
what are we a colony of what are we a
colony of it's you're making this
a colony of british nobles basically no
we're not a colony of british nobles
we're not a colony of british nobles no
we're [Β __Β ] not
yes you are
no you are
you literally have to answer to the
[Β __Β ] queen i can literally go to
school
and wipe my [Β __Β ] ass with a picture
of the queen and smear it on the wall
and i might get in trouble but no one
will care that it was the queen i was
desecrating if you do that in canada you
probably go to jail shut the [Β __Β ] up i'm
not a british colony
you are british no we're not i can
literally
piss on a picture of the queen i can go
outside
literally put up a frame picture of the
queen and take a piss on it
and it won't be disrespectful to anyone
in this country no one will give a [Β __Β ]
ultimately means nothing if your army is
used to fight for
really the property of british noble at
the end of the day it's the same thing
and it's
essentially still a military occupation
okay either way so britain is still
occupying the country
britain is still occupying the country
it's still a colonial occupation okay so
i okay then i'll just leave that
then okay then we just have another
declaration of independence apparently
we need another one i'm fine with that
we need a revolutionary situation no we
need a declaration of independence from
the british empire
and we need to return so we need 1776
must commence again we didn't go far
enough apparently
no the revolution has to be led by
indigenous rights
the multinational working class the
multinational what do you mean by
multinational working class do you think
do you think the working class is just
like a mishmash of [Β __Β ]
random people
no boo lookers you're full of [Β __Β ] your
60 19 project [Β __Β ] has [Β __Β ] been
debunked wrote a paragraph for nothing
anyway what do you mean multinational
you know you're referring to different
groups
that are distinct cultures that have
their own [Β __Β ] culture and [Β __Β ] right
you're not just referring to like a
rainbow coalition of mishmash of
individuals who happen to be of
different backgrounds you're referring
to different peoples right
yes different people okay talking about
the africans
yeah so it's not just a random like it's
not just their random
like diversity it's just
different peoples
so i'm just wondering is your discord
always this [Β __Β ] racist i mean you've
always who's being racist we'll ban them
we don't we don't tolerate racism in our
discord who's being racist so vlad clash
is having people pulling their pants on
black people putting their uh their
pants uh where where show me which
general chat
uh it's in the uh general vc chat yes
that's a general vc chat hold on here
with me mods can you get in there
general vc chat
shut up for a second
general vc chat what's his name
so i've got
vlad cash what is he doing
vlad cash
what is what is vlad cash post
just one of those nights
okay that's actually tos
that's not racist but it is tosc he's
basically posted a video of showing ass
so i'm gonna ban him now
he's banned he just posted a picture of
two people showing their ass
yeah this is
i can't believe this [Β __Β ]
okay
let me tell you
mods can you look at general vc and see
what the [Β __Β ] is going on you know these
people are not community regulars no one
even knows who that [Β __Β ] guy is by
the way
so i don't know what your [Β __Β ] point
is
okay we got another
i just
noticed it and i was really
wait why was it racist by curiosity just
out of curiosity i was a racist
well i mean
i didn't watch the whole video i just
watched
well i just saw two males with their
pants down walking and i banned him
immediately and deleted it
i don't see what's racist about that
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i just think it's it's tos i don't know
why it's racist
just because they were both black
but whatever they're bad why are they
having that why are they having their
pants down like that like it was some
sort of a prison site because that's
kind of like a prison site so why were
you talking about prison
i wasn't talking about prison what the
[Β __Β ] are you talking about
i'm not saying you are talking about
prison i'm just talking about that
particular i don't know i don't know
what the [Β __Β ] that video was i deleted
it and banned him immediately
okay all right so i that's all i've got
to say about that
now um
what i'm honestly trying to say here is
that each nation has to be be recognized
as equals
for unity to occur
okay and um
this has been emblematic and exposed
last year with
many of the riots that percolated
throughout the country it showed kind of
the central contradiction of the nation
it's that it's operating under an
ideology of white supremacy yet at the
same time it has its multinational in
character and ends up with this sort of
conflict and this conflict has been
going around ever since the occupation
began
that's what i'm trying to say
both these countries are the result of
400 years of military occupation in
central colombia first of all calling it
military calling it military occupation
is the most stupid [Β __Β ] i've ever
[Β __Β ] heard
because by that logic
why then why then is the police armed
uh more substantially than many other
countries armies
if it's not a military why don't you
hold your horses what you're talking
about is the specific
um repression of the black community in
this country
not just the black community yeah that
is what you're talking about that's
exactly what you're talking about white
supremacies are the police institutions
of military militarization of police is
overwhelmingly targeted against the
black community
yes the black community but also the
indigenous no not really it's not really
it's not really
the the indigenous are suffering from a
lack of support but they're not policed
in the same way the black community is
so it's not a general occupation what
you're talking about is the specific
circumstances of black people in this
country which yes i agree their
communities are in a sense being
occupied and that's why i agree with the
black belt thesis and the right to
national self-determination by black
people and if they want to buy their own
accord form a united states with the
country that's their choice but they
don't have to
but i don't see what your [Β __Β ] point
is none of what you just said
makes it that the whole of the united
states has to be completely dissolved
and that there can be no continuity with
1776
and the us constitution and the legacy
of the war of independence
so don't get it twisted about what this
is [Β __Β ] about this isn't about
whether certain communities
should be respected and having national
self-determination and sovereignty it's
about whether the united states has to
be completely destroyed or we have to
tell people well this is to be clear
you're not going to [Β __Β ] destroy it
so what this is actually about is
whether you're going to run around
telling people that's what your
intention is to do and thereby ostracize
yourself
from everyone while not even being able
to accomplish it so that's actually what
we're [Β __Β ] talking about
so
worrying about the name itself is not
necessarily what we at the communist
party of canada are advocating okay
listen i don't even believe canada's a
real country
i don't believe canada is a real country
can i just say that i don't think canada
is a it's not an it's not a sovereign
independent country i don't know why
canada still exists that the us is a
real country i think well
here's the thing here's the thing is
that we actually fought we actually
fought and kicked the british out and
you still bowed before their queen so
yeah i think we are a real country
you about before the queen you do you do
you do everything you have to buy
you pay for the queen you literally pay
for the [Β __Β ] royal couples and megan
martin with your [Β __Β ] tax dollars you
pay for them
we don't do that [Β __Β ] here
so the cares act where where do you
think the money went to
a lot of that money went to british
banks yeah
so think about that for a minute
you're paying for the uh for british
nobles no we're not you're paying for
what
what what's the difference actually what
is the difference is for us we are
informally calling the difference is
with us we are informally colonized by
britain that's why i'm advocating for a
new 1776 while you
are actually formally a colony of
britain in the sense of
being a subject of the british crown
that has sovereignty over your country
i mean honestly
this is really just splitting hairs at
this point because i think quebec
the french quebec
becky should have their own country and
then the rest of canada probably should
be taken by the us
well what i
argue is that you know honestly the the
border the the
this
you're trying to project your own
british empire on us and saying the
united states isn't real you bet your
ass it's real
it is a real country we are a real
country yes we are
okay
so i don't understand why you want to
hold on to the legacy of the united
states when soldiers because you're
trying to cope and pretend the united
states never even happened or that the
only significance of it is that it was
immoral and that's that's all it was
just it was just immoral and nothing
more
well i think it was actually a world
historical
um
objective contribution to history and
the history of humanity
and our history as a people
as an american people it's part of our
history it's part of who we are it's
part of who we are today and it's part
of what makes us what we are today and i
don't want to liquidate that history and
pretend like it was all a bad dream and
it we can just reverse and never even
happen with 1619 projects let's go back
to the british empire hell no i think
there was something real about 1776 i
think there was something unique about
the american revolution and i don't want
to forget that so i'm a traditionalist
that's why i want to preserve the
revolutionary tradition of the united
states
so you do realize this argument you've
made is an argument made by
by martin luther king
and many of the other um people that you
know
people in our you know revolutionary
community black people would call house
negroes
because i don't know if you can use this
word on i know you're black yourself but
i don't know if you can use this word so
let's not use this word on twitch i'm
not sure what the rules are i don't i
personally don't mind you using it but
twitch might have an issue so let's keep
a low on that and okay yeah yeah yeah
but guess what that might be true for
the black community that's not for the
black community to decide i'm hands off
i'm more of a malcolm x guy too but
ultimately that's internal to the black
community that doesn't apply to white
america white america can't do they
can't say the same thing what you're
basically talking about is white liberal
fringe hipsters
taking control and seizing power you
want them to rule everyone you want them
to rule the black community the latino
community the indigenous community and
the white america that's actually what's
going to happen
you want the white lefties to rule the
country come on yeah that's what you
want
that's that's that's not you you think
it's this you think it's the same thing
for black people when are the liberals
ever advocated for the nationalization
of the land when have they ever
advocated they are advocating jeff bezos
jeff bezos funded the land back
collective the ndn
alan black was about privatization yeah
that's what they want
them towards the idea of privatization
yeah that's what they're using it for
that's what they're using it for
yeah but that doesn't legit uh so
indigenous people indigenous people
can't sell wait
indigenous people can't sell the land
they're being given
the the
lands
under indigenous cultures were not for
sale
they were not for sale well if they
choose to make it for sale themselves
there were some communities that did
have property relations
but the the majority of linkedin can you
stop wasting my time you're not going to
return to the past indigenous people
don't live the same way they did 300
years ago they're not the blue people
from avatar so they are participating in
our modern economy there's no indication
that they're going to return to how
their society was 500 years ago or
whatever so
yes they can sell their land right
because they own it what makes you think
they're not going to sell it they've
done it in canada and elsewhere where
they're renting it out and they're
privatizing it so that's actually what's
[Β __Β ] going on they own casinos all
those guys indigenous people are not
blue people from avatar whatever stupid
thing you have in mind
indigenous people also have class
relations and they have that
contradiction going on with them as well
so they're people as well and they also
have
bourgeois
bourgeois and working class and they
have traitors in their movement as well
they're like other people
we argue for multinational revenue so
indigenous people are just your cope and
your ability to bypass actually winning
over the majority of people in your
country you can just focus on a very
marginalized minority who's extremely
repressed
and you're gonna have to call standpoint
you're gonna use them you're gonna use
them as like your eternal justification
for being an anti-social and this is
what white leftists do they use the
marginal groups as a justification for
their anti-social stance toward their
own people
i'm not white
okay black
and as an african we know why the
struggling for the land is important so
do it i'm not stopping you go go do what
you want in canada do whatever you want
in canada i don't give a [Β __Β ] i'm not
stopping you
okay but but but i'm not going to tell
my followers to join you in your failure
so do what you want
i'm not going to stop you i'm not going
to tell anyone to stop you advocated for
you're gonna fail i'm telling you you're
gonna fail i'm telling you you're gonna
fail utterly you're gonna waste your own
time and
decades and decades will pass nothing
will happen i promise you our party is
growing
your party's not gonna your party's not
gonna grow to [Β __Β ]
without in the infrared
vision i promise you that your party's
not going nowhere without infrared
same with the cpu usa
uh matter of fact your party's probably
gonna be destroyed
in at least a decade
unless you adopt
and grow up from this ultra left
stupidity
it's not ultra left oh you've been at it
your new left strategy y'all listen
y'all have been at it since the 60s with
your new left strategy
we're coming on
more than half a century now
we're coming on 60 years now 60 years
later what have you what have you
produced what have you done nothing you
just wasted time and you've wasted
people's entire lifespans
so you want to waste your life go ahead
i'm not on board with you
um i think you really should look into
the actual history of the party before
you go ahead and make these
outrageous assertions about what was
going on
because
if you adopt the altar left strategy
that everything is about indigenous
people and that's the center of
everything
good luck that's all i could say good
luck
we're not saying it's about indigenous
people we're saying that this country is
multinational i don't believe canada is
a real country i don't believe canada is
a real country canada is more like a
series of cities plus quebec which seems
like it's a country i guess
canada population how many people are in
canada again yeah 38 million
which is extremely small um
seems like it's just a bunch of cities
and
yeah i don't really know what country
there is in canada like where's the
country
in canada
just seems like it's a bunch of cities
well where's the country in the united
states most of uh
where's the country in the united states
we have various regions of our country
we have the midwest and the agricultural
midwest we have the south we have the
black belt we have the um
the more
mexican-influenced uh south uh
southeast sorry no southwest sorry
southwest and how stable we have the
country been underrated operating we're
still we have appalachia we're still a
country
we're not just a collection of like
cosmopolitan cities we're actually a
country
a country with borders that are quite
frankly questionable
okay and that's the central
contradiction of the country so you want
canada to take our borders
so you want canada to take our borders
no you have to
understand um
what do you want like the indigenous
issue isn't something you can just sweep
under the rug
when when talking about these settler
colonies
i think i think the primary significance
of the indigenous issue as you're
bringing it up is not actually
proportionate to the extent to which
it's an issue in reality
or it's the immediate concern of
communist parties
i think the reason you're talking about
it is because it's part of your
moralistic ideological worldview that
justifies your um
justification and reasoning for caring
about communist or socialist ideas
so keep in mind what uh the event that
happened in in canada this year
um had to do with uh the uncovering of
mass graves
of india yeah i know i know it caused a
lot of outrage within canada because of
the crimes of the canadian government
and the schooling system
the schooling system um also there was
um
the fair creep protests which ended up
being the largest protest we've had yeah
i know because the only real people
the only country within canada
is quebec and maybe the indigenous
people
because but the reason is because the
indigenous people aren't just
a cities they're actually people who are
based in canadian land
as making their
their um
what's the word they're indigenized
indigenous
and
while while all this and at the same
time 80 of the land is is crown land now
i agree with you that that's a
contradiction that has to be addressed
in in canada
and
that is the underlying root what about
quebec what about quebec
british nobles okay what about quebec
and all of
quebec has um has a national issue
but
we have to be careful about that one
because that can risk being a lot like
what the afrikaners were struggling for
um when they were resisting the british
so okay that's a really weird comparison
it's a really weird comparison
it's not a weird comparison because
they're algonquin's in quebec and
there's also the inuit in quebec
so it's actually not a weird comparison
if you really it's an extremely weird
comparison
i wouldn't say so
um
oh my god
it's an underlying contradiction that
has to be addressed
um and
we propose a solution
that addresses the concerns of so may
why don't you call yourself the
indigenous the representatives of
indigenous people party of canada
because we advocate for the working
class because you're a philanthropist no
you're not you're a philanthropic
moral concerned boudoir organization
which is purely based on [Β __Β ]
urban morality of the bourgeoisie and
nothing more you don't have a [Β __Β ]
class base you don't have a base in any
people here's a bunch of [Β __Β ] moral
philanthropists who are trying to
[Β __Β ] do charity work for indigenous
people or whatever just like bourgeois
philanthropic moral society concern
organizations of the 19th century in
victorian britain
don't give me your dumb [Β __Β ] about how
this is about the working class because
it's not
i
that's actually
probably the worst take i've seen you
have in a while
because i honestly that is
one hell of a terrible team
that is unbelievable
um especially
like especially when you consider the
fact um
that we're also the only party that
advocates for housing is a human right
um and we have a housing issue
in this country and it and the
underlying root of the problem has to do
with the the land the privatization of
the land and the land being 80 percent
of it being under the ownership of a
queen
so
um
when we talk about the legacy of
colonialism as an underlying issue
um we're talking about it from a class
standpoint so you making the claim
that we're just uh advocating for you
know some sort of
bourgeois moralism
yeah you are there's no what about your
plane isn't bourgeois against our entire
party
and you you are you have a bourgeois
lane yeah you have a bourgeois moral
stance
absolutely bourgeois nature you know
what that means
it's based on the abstract subjectivity
of the bourgeoisie and it's not based on
the material class realities of any
determinate people
what a housing problem for the working
class
you are advocating for things
but you don't have a base in the working
class of canada you don't have an actual
base in them you're just basing it on
[Β __Β ] morality
so why are we in the uh unions why are
we in the working councils if we have no
basis because you're trying to get a
base but you don't have one
how did we get in then
and literally
i'm going to create my own party called
the ass crack party of canada and join
[Β __Β ] unions
and i'll be in i'll be i have a base in
the workers right
it's not just the base and the workers
we also participate in the mass protests
that happened uh my ashbrack party will
mom
my ass crack party will do the same
thing i'll go to the protest too with my
ass crack out
you'll find that the vast majority of
canadians do not share your view on the
indigenous question well that's exactly
why we're getting the the the majority
of canadians are boos
very urbanized and are not really
they're just like they're like it's like
[Β __Β ] coastal elites in america
they're just pretty much like democrats
and they don't really
they don't really have a country of
their own
they just live in cities
yeah so
so we have
on
an issue where we don't have housing
requisite housing for the masses
um
requisite access to land of the masses
control of the means of production what
happens with the production what happens
with the natural resources
what is canada's means of production
what
what is canada's means of production
like actually it's a lot of it is uh
primary resource destruction
and um that's part of the
see the the problem with this colonial
legacy is that it ends up spreading in a
very malicious way abroad
uh we end up having um if we if we let
the nobles continue to own the mines
they end up going to africa and they go
to south america
and sometimes they even go to uh to
europe and they um they don't
they they default on taxes um
one country i think it was
pakistan what's your point what's your
point
how do these things make you a working
class party
we have to deal with the underlying land
issue and the resources i don't care
what you're talking about okay okay
read okay read read fragrant angles
utopian and read it frederick angle
socialism utopian and scientific the
difference between philanthropic
bourgeois socialism which has grand
solutions for society and the scientific
proletarian socialism which isn't about
just offering a [Β __Β ] remedy or a
panacea for the situation but it's
actually about basing yourself in the
actual [Β __Β ] working class
so
i i just want to clear something up
are you against nationalization all of a
sudden
i just want to understand because you're
saying that nationalization is just uh
bourgeois tolkien is
but i'm wondering if you are against
nationalization
are you nationalizing canada
are you nationalizing
that's our program go do it
okay my program is everyone has to have
their ass crack uh be inspected
by robotic birds
every single day when they go outside
and the the birds gonna pick pebbles off
their ass crack
and um
put pebbles inside just to make
everyone's life more uncomfortable
because of how much i [Β __Β ] hate
everyone
and that's my program are you against it
if you want to have an
outrageous program like that
it's my program that means it's real and
that means it's real right so it's my
program so that means it's actually a
real thing that's happening that you're
going to be making that sort of
comparison thank you jackson appreciate
you
the fact that you're going to make that
sort of comparison between thank you so
much jackson what we advocate for up in
our party yeah i i i yeah they're the
same in in in their re they're grounding
in reality it's not gonna [Β __Β ] happen
doesn't matter what you advocate for if
you don't have the [Β __Β ] material
means to actually [Β __Β ] same grounding
the same grounding in reality we don't
have the material means no you don't you
don't you're declaring you're declaring
what your program is and you're not
telling me how it's [Β __Β ] relevant to
you being a working-class party being a
working-class party isn't just about
having a [Β __Β ] program it's also about
basing yourself in a working-class
masses and that being the material base
of your party
your party doesn't have a material base
except in [Β __Β ] bourgeois
philanthropic moralists
and this is based on what what would you
know about the people in in canada or
our party they don't they're not in
participating in any material class
struggle they're participating in
[Β __Β ] individuals being morally
outraged at reality and joining a party
that they think is going to be a vehicle
to rectify all the [Β __Β ] moral
problems they think exist in the world
well
really we're trying to address the
underlying conditions of canada
okay and uh
that's what what is the case
read english social
we've read it
we've read it again please just just
keep reading it you say you're supposed
to read the quran once a year so read
that once a month
read english is work once a month
until you get it because you haven't
gotten it i promise you you haven't
all right well you won't have to tell
that to our party later because this
program
i don't give a [Β __Β ] about your party
leader
wow
that's amazing
and
we wonder
you wonder why we have so much to stain
over these social pages no i don't
wonder i know exactly the reason
actually well the underlying reason is
because you're all children no it's
because you're a [Β __Β ] npc who who
instead of being a communist party is a
indigenous
uh indigenous welfare
by non-indigenous people organization
justice so because we want justice no
it's because you've you've made this the
entire linchpin of your [Β __Β ]
existence
why don't you try reading the program or
learning the history of the party
for a moment instead of just uh
dismissing our party albright
if you think like you're the one
that you okay i need you to understand
something i need you to [Β __Β ]
understand something from angles utopian
scientific
socialism is not about individuals
looking at injustice and saying i want
justice socialism is about a material
class struggle where different classes
have opposing interests and you
represent the material not moral
interests of the proletariat which means
you are fighting on behalf of a material
force in society like lenin said
morality is what serves the proletariat
immorality is what goes against the
interests of the proletariat the
interest of the proletariat are not
going to be distilled on the basis of
morality or what's just or what's moral
but based on the concrete reality of
what their actual [Β __Β ] interests are
as a class
if you claim that there is no underlying
uh moral framework that the uh workers
can be moved back
only the boudoir
has the only the bourgeoisie has the
wiggle room to make morality the basis
of its [Β __Β ] practical politics
the proletariat doesn't have this wiggle
room because it's concerned with
actually working and making a living the
bourgeoisie is philanthropic and bases
itself on animal welfare and all this
dumb [Β __Β ] which they also racistly
project upon minorities like indigenous
people
that's what the bourgeoisie does because
it has the [Β __Β ] spare time
to be moral about [Β __Β ]
the rest of everyone is caught up in
actual material reality a ruthless
dog-eat-dog world of cold sobering
reality of conflict
so are you saying so which ones are you
saying are the bourgeoisie the people
protesting at fair creek or the ndp led
police bashing their heads canada is a
country full of bourgeoisie middle class
it's a bourgeoisie urban middle class
if there's a working class in canada i'm
not well acquainted with it i'm open to
the possibility of there being one but
it's not the canadian working class that
was at those protests
oh yeah i mean you're the one who said
that people should go to school become
engineers become a computer scientist so
that when they graduate you can then go
turn around and tell them they're not
working class because they protested uh
because they approached i literally told
my chat do whatever makes you [Β __Β ]
money to survive in this world so i
don't know what the [Β __Β ] you're talking
about but you can do what you want and
make money in this world without
pretending you're personally the working
class what have i [Β __Β ] said that
twitch streamers are working class do i
search which streamers are working class
do i say that my fellow twitch streamers
that we are the working class we gotta
get i never said that [Β __Β ]
i'm a [Β __Β ] person making a living off
this [Β __Β ] i don't represent the twitch
class i'm not advocating for the twitch
streamer class where the [Β __Β ] that is
i'm not talking about twitch um well i'm
telling you you don't have to [Β __Β ] be
validated individually oh am i working
class am i proliterate no
honestly i don't i don't really i don't
i don't i don't respect people who waste
their time going to school for the
prestige instead of money everything in
this world is about [Β __Β ] money it's
about money it's about making money
that's what you got to do in this life
is make money you want to go to college
and do that dumb professional [Β __Β ] good
luck if that's your secured way to make
money i'm not against it go make your
money
but if you're doing it if you're doing
it for any other reason beyond making
money i don't really respect you
honestly
you're a philosophy student
no i'm not no i'm not i'm completely
self-taught i'm not a philosophy student
well i thought you were in school i was
in law school
i was in law school in law school yeah
and guess why i was in law school money
literally just money
there's no other reason why i wanted to
go to law school other than i think this
is the way i can make the most money to
have the most free time to write my
[Β __Β ] books
so underlying you've made the accusation
that uh us as con uh members of the
communist party canada are actually
essentially splitting the role uh the
workers on identities no you're not yet
here you are making they're not you're
not splitting the workers you're not
even talking to the workers you're not
even addressing the workers in any
capacity whatsoever you're not splitting
them you're not even addressing their
existence
we're not addressing their no you're not
have you even bothered to read the
program no
so then why would you know that because
i know it
ah that's ridic
i know it based on your actions that's
actually
that's completely ridiculous
you know it's ridiculous
can we talk about how canada canada is
not a real country again it's literally
a country that's the bow before the the
british crown
kind of country is that
that's not a real country
i'm saying most
most cellular colonies the communist
party of canada
what is the what is the political goals
of the communist party county do you
have a goal to make canada or an
independent republic
yes we do you do where
that's our goal it's our goal is to
eradicate the senate
um
achieve independence from the monarchy
establish an upper house of nations
where each nation gets one vote and the
lower house
uh the uh that's voted in through
proportional what about quebec
we're republican what about quebec the
only practical republic what about
quebec
well back well the french will have
[Β __Β ] ewoks told me they do not have
a republican agenda they don't have an
official republican agenda what are you
talking about
well the communist party does have an
official republican agenda well we have
intelligence saying the contrary what
about quebec
unconditional independence for quebec
yes every every individual nation will
have the right to secede
including quebec
unconditionally
yes unconditionally
but we imagine that with the revolution
and with communist leading because we're
the only ones that support republicanism
from a practical standpoint
that it's all going to be communists in
charge of quebec anyway
so
that's that's our our practical
pro uh program if
we're not we're we're republicans we're
not uh
we have we don't support the queen
why shouldn't you just be part of a
united states with america
we're not going to recolonize the
country after decolonizing no what if
communists take power if communists take
power in america and we're the united
states
uh led by a communist party why not just
become one of the states
of our communist
union reason why
the underlying reason why communists
have failed in the us is because they
haven't dealt with the national question
no the national question according to
you is that
the national question according to you
is the completely stupid psychotic idea
of giving all u.s land dissolving the
united states as a whole no more united
states only indigenous ownership of land
not in like we advocate for
nationalization
the united states is a democratic
republic the united states is a
democratic republic
already angles and marx said the united
states already has a democratic
constitution so
you don't need you don't we don't need
to [Β __Β ] uh
reconcile the united states is a
democracy
angles and marx
angles and marks called it a democratic
constitution
i i believe what angles and marx did
about it
look
we can talk about um different
um you know do you have a closing remark
for your argument what is your argument
my closing remark is um the u.s is
not actually a bourgeois democracy and i
actually want to close by saying
that uh
the settler colonial question has to be
addressed in order for us to succeed
there's no
colonial there is no the only settler
colonial question there is in this
country is the [Β __Β ] hipsters and
white leftists who gentrify black
communities and latino communities and
that's the only settler colonialism that
happens in the united states right now
the settler colonial question the
multinational question those have to be
addressed in order for any communist
party to succeed in both canada and the
united states it's actually not the job
of the communist party to create a
national multinational agenda it's a job
of the communist party to respect black
nationalist forces and other communities
who are struggling for
self-determination it's not going to
dictate the terms of that
self-determination in the party
yes but if you don't even thank you
great mingle
if you don't even mention the issue
and you don't bring it up and you don't
have to it seems like you just want like
this morally castrating thing where you
just want people to be morally cast oh
we have an issue here we have to talk
about this issue we have to talk about
this you know you just want to be able
to like morally castrate people and
[Β __Β ] like you know extra it's just
this dirty game that
when you say you just want to levy
attacks you know and just want to
[Β __Β ] um
you just want to like
you just want to like uh take a chunk
out of people's enjoyment and take a
chunk out of their [Β __Β ] sense of
being just be like oh we're going to
take a tax and [Β __Β ] force you to give
me attention about some dumb [Β __Β ] like
you're saying we have to force this
question and and uh it's just complete
moralizing [Β __Β ] you know
it's
it's not you you have to you have to sit
here and think about how immoral and
evil we all are like dude
it's so [Β __Β ] stupid you know you have
to sit here and really contemplating and
reflect upon your evil and your evil
immorality you know i don't know i don't
i don't buy none of that [Β __Β ]
nobody wants to hear that [Β __Β ] you'll
never make a popular party saying that
dumb [Β __Β ]
i haven't accused you of running the
united states but if you want to take
the crimes of the country personally
that's your own problem
but i'd advise against it if you are
nervous
in fact i think you would probably
should be looking towards your own arab
identity and think about what this
country has done to your people in the
middle east
i because i identify myself as an
african okay i'm an arab 100 era by the
way and i come from an arab culture i
come from an arab cultural family too i
was raised as a muslim and an arab was
never uh he didn't come from an
americanized family i was born in this
country raised in this country guess
what i'm an american you want to know
why i'm an american because america
isn't about ethnicity it's not about
ethnicity it's not about where you're
from either i am an american and yeah i
agree america has engaged in criminal
actions against my own people which is
why i'm trying to win over my own
country
to stop the imperialist war machine and
win over the american people to turn
their attention and turn their struggle
against the same forces which have
victimized my own people because what
goes around comes around this the [Β __Β ]
that they do overseas that reflects
internally too it reflects in wacko and
ruby ridge and the way the federal
government polices and oppresses and
clamps down on its own people too so and
that's why the biggest allies of people
like me who were against the wars i
didn't see that i i really didn't see
much left as leftist will completely
antagonize my arab identity the only
people i could [Β __Β ] with growing up were
the libertarians
ron paul and the fed all those type of
people who were against the wars the
leftists existed but they were so
marginal in comparison to those
libertarians i didn't even notice their
existence at the time
the libertarians yeah
libertarians
at heart they they're anti-government
and they're anti
you're missing the class reality ron
paul libertarian populism
mobilized a right libertarian that's a
little different
but ultimately
ultimately ron paul was at a certain
point ron paul was one of the biggest
domestic threats to american imperialism
in this
country and i and i will give him kudos
for that now that the neuronics in
russia had issues and there's
shortcomings with them as lenin
critiqued them i would critique the ron
paul people the same way but they were
the most effective domestic enemies of
american imperialism easily
and you don't think any of that has to
do with the multinational question
listen there's some that's as you
understand it's a multinational question
there's still a united states and an
american people okay i agree there's a
separate national reality but there's
it's not just
it's not when you're talking about white
people for example and white
supremacy white people are not just
white people you know there's there's an
american people too who's not just white
by the way
and i agree that black people were
excluded from america
um
specifically excluded from having 40
acres and a mule but it's still a real
country america's still a real place
with the real people it's not based on
race per se most of them probably are
white but
you can't ignore that that's my whole
point was i'm not against indigenous
people or having their own thing or
latino people or black people i'm just
saying
you can't sit here and act like the
american people don't exist because they
do
who said that
people where people were trying to say
that the communist party's goal
shouldn't be to win over those people or
base themselves on those people insofar
as the guess what the communist party as
an institution has its origins in that
part of them that that american people
now it's multi-racial right it's always
been multi-racial especially the
communist party but it has its
fundamental origins there the communist
party is not a black nationalist
organization like uh
the nation of islam or anything right
so
hold on nation of islam is a church
yeah yeah but um or marcus garvey's or
the black panther party or anything like
that hold on give me one second
uh hold on
sub virgin character infra i want it on
record 900 internet thinks you're a
character wow yeah 99 of the internet
can literally line up in a congo line
and get in line and one by one suck my
[Β __Β ] actually suck my [Β __Β ]
99 of the internet you want to get in vc
a little [Β __Β ] how many holes do women
have two suck my [Β __Β ] two
you understand two
two
two two chat give him twos show him how
many holes
show him there's only two show him
there's only two
you wanna cry you wanna cry you wanna
cry you wanna cry you wanna cry
you wanna cry keep crying we're saying
too you wanna cry about two yeah yeah
two you wanna cry gonna cry gonna cry
gonna cry go quiet go cry guys things
are gonna need two rolls
it's so
go cry go cry go cry go cry little [Β __Β ]
little [Β __Β ] [Β __Β ] and hey i want to
tell you something you will always be an
aunt a pathetic little [Β __Β ] [Β __Β ]
sitting in their mom's [Β __Β ] basement
on the [Β __Β ] internet you will always
always be a little [Β __Β ] a little ant
you're [Β __Β ] miserable sitting in your
[Β __Β ] house
and that's all you can [Β __Β ] do is try
to attack people like me because you're
trying to project your disgusting
negative ugly [Β __Β ] energy upon me
it'll never [Β __Β ] happen
it'll never [Β __Β ] happen
all you nerds can say no you're insecure
i [Β __Β ] dominate you
i'm [Β __Β ] dominating your soul your
mind and even probably your body right
now
finally let me tell you what
finally let me tell you what ready ready
at the end of the day you're still a
[Β __Β ] and your girl that you're after
that you want
as long as she's over 18 of course that
girl that you want that you're after you
got a crush on
she would
make me
pick me
to do my worst on her
she would beg me to throw her around
take me
peg me peg me to completely turn her
body into a canvas of my will
i want you to know that personally
i want you to know that personally
she would literally
beg
me
beg me
everyone in chat peg me peg me
where the [Β __Β ] up little [Β __Β ] ass chat
i'ma start banning i'm gonna start
banning
talk [Β __Β ] like that
anyway let's continue
yeah anything else
no no i think i i basically concluded it
um
one thing i would also add is thinking
about
even your own experience you have to
admit that the country operates under an
ideology of white supremacy much like
canada actually yeah but i disagree with
you about where the main
point of that white supremacy is which
is clearly in the democrats the urban
centers of the country and among white
leftists were the biggest white
supremacists in this country as malcolm
x understood
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i'm i i pose liberalism as well that's
why i'm a member of a communist party
not a member of the liberal party okay
bye
all right
i have to be
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my
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sorry i missed you job party thank you
so much emperor thank you so much man
appreciate it
um
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oh god
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someone else wanted wanted me to debate
me
someone else wanted the baby
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there's
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some [Β __Β ] we can watch that i wanted to
watch but we're doing debates
thank you
that was one
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remember which side we're on we are the
true heirs of marxism
yeah the kanye thing we're gonna watch
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i want to tell you guys something
unironically
kanye is literally one of my biggest
influences i'm in the reason i'm an
american patriot
because i have my spiritual mentors
kanye west david lynch
the american artist like hopper and
those kind of people
um
american authors
john steinbeck
jack london
those are really like my spiritual
the call of the wild you know these are
these are who define me in my character
i'm fundamentally an american i am
fundamentally an american 100 an
american
i'm an arab i'm lebanese i'm muslim
but all those things are
things those are part of
it you know what i mean they're not like
uh incompatible to me
listen i need you guys to understand
no you're you're not you're not smart
enough to understand this is okay
i'll tell you another time
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is this the one
where where is is this with aekon
kanye
where's the one
is this the one
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is this the interview
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is this the interview okay
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is
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what it give me hopefully it's what it
should be this is your boy n.o.r.e what
up it's dj efn this is drink champs
yappy hour make some
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when noise and efn started this show
we always
looked at
rappers or we always looked at certain
people as superheroes
or supermen
this guy that standing to the left of me
is not only a superhero
a superman
a super genius a super
music icon but he's also a fashion icon
he's also a visionary
he's also a person who speaks things
into existence i remember he said you
don't know house way and we figured out
he didn't know how swift
in case you don't know who we talk about
because we talk about this is this going
to be drink cham's biggest episode ever
i'm just go ahead and say that sorry to
anybody else who's ever been on this
table in this place this is going to be
the biggest
in case you don't know the [Β __Β ] we
talking about we talking about
the artist formally
known as kanye and he's just now yeah
god damn it
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so let me get this right you ain't got a
last name or first name just got a name
right
i don't even know what to say that [Β __Β ]
is hard just yet
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yo yo yo i thank you so much man because
on the real real i know you don't have
to do this um
you're at a level in your life where
it seems like you're free it sounds like
you just feel like you're free you're
doing you really showed up with no
security and i had to get security for
you i'm sorry i just i just said i just
said no i just can't let you walk around
like that because we're gonna kill
somebody somebody [Β __Β ] with you i'm just
throwing it out there i just throwing it
out there so sorry we left that we left
that um life but
um
how is it like how is it like what's
what's going on in your life it's just
because i heard you told me on the phone
the other day you said you don't even
you're not even you don't even have a
house that's how rich you are you don't
even have a house
bro
this is the legend right here i trust
kanye more than
oh my god if kanye if i could just have
15 minutes to talk to him tell him about
cpusa 2036 i promise you he'd be on
board i promise you he don't he'd be on
board 100 percent
how is that
yeah you know i'll restore houses i'm
very into architecture but i'm just
i'm not into the the class system where
it's like what that's one of the main
things they used to control us i think
my whole existence is about not being
out of control but being out of their
control being in control of yourself so
a house is the first thing that they
give you that's your entire existence
when i look at it i don't there's guys
nobody i [Β __Β ] with more especially right
now nobody i [Β __Β ] with more i l this is
literally
this gives me so much energy so much
life to see someone like kanye who just
[Β __Β ] gets it man you know what i mean
this dude
i truly
i believe in kanye like i i'm not it's
not even a joke or a meme like i think
he is right i do believe he's right
trust me trust me trust me if you get it
you get it papers in new york i'm like
everybody that's in all those buildings
spending that time away from their
family working
one of the main things the main thing is
the idea
of a house security yeah security
because i remember saying
uh
saying i was arguing with this one
publicist
and i told the person that i wasn't
gonna have a house and they spazz on me
said you've done too much in your life
to not have a house you need a hot like
so try to
impose that idea
of but you know my home is just when
when my daughter facetimes me that's
where my that's where my home is
okay see
what's on about land reform
but yeah okay but you were staying in
the mercedes-benz arena yeah what was it
that was wow it didn't look like a cell
it looked like a jail cell i'm gonna
throw it out there yeah well except for
i could come and go so
that's a big difference there that's the
difference
yeah but yeah you know it's this idea
this monk lifestyle like
i heard that it's like trust fund kids
that's kind of bruh he lives like a
nomad that's what he's talking about
let me look it up
kanye
mercedes-benz cell what is he talking
about
bedroom inside atlanta's mercedes
stadium looks like a prison cell
let me see what it looks like
oh that one
damn
based honestly based that's literally
like my room with more with my room's
more dirty but
he lives the base lifestyle
on the same wave right now that they
being homeless bro this is the con of
america this will be the con of america
trust me purpose right uh but
i traveled to
um to paris
like a couple weeks ago and i had to go
through lisbon because you can go
through lisbon without being vaccinated
i only got one of the shots i'm half
sonated
i dropped enlistment it's a 15 hour ride
and usually people say well
i had to i got to take this 15 hour ride
something steven spielberg told me that
this ralph's i'm just have there's gonna
be shameless names right here it's gonna
be like a lot of names okay i love it
let's go
i love it hello continue so i'm sitting
next to oprah at this ralph lauren
dinner talking to steven spielberg
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across from hillary clinton
this is the first time i actually was
with her all right
good
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absolutely based
so i took this 15 hour ride from lisbon
to paris but the thought was i get to
take the ride the ride was beautiful so
it's just a perspective on life
like when i go through just the
different changes in my life my family a
friend of mine said are you sad and when
i really thought about it i started to
look at life like it was a video game
i'm like yo every part of it is really
lit right the things that hurt you the
things that you're happy about the
things that
uh that push your ego that that support
your ego the things that that down your
ego like this is two hours i've been
saying this like a couple uh for a
couple weeks like ego
and anger love to hang out their best
friends no absolutely ego and anger oh
yeah
they hype each other up yeah yeah
definitely yeah
so the moments yeah they definitely they
definitely blood
the more and more
you know you lean into your ego you know
i wrote this song that on for donda that
you know we're going to bring out on the
bonus album uh that's saying on the
deluxe but it said if i let go if i let
go let god and let go i gotta let it go
i got it let's go and then that's why
he's got this line that makes me think
about miami buy into the montreal
actually it had a next line but i like
to open it up
but it's like going to paris i get there
and um
i get to the ritz hotel and they say
they ain't got no rooms
and
you know it's a couple of times i just
had to like pull my mask down like you
don't have a room
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the vision of life is not to have money
and possessions is to have relationships
and make it to the point where i've done
so much for so many people that my money
is can't spend anywhere and go to a
restaurant they'd be like oh your
money's no good here so they said they
charged me for the room
but they gave you a room
they found a room
and then the next day the ceo of
balenciaga came to pick me up is this
guy named lal you can be patriotic and
have a love for american culture without
being chauvinistic defending the current
formation of the american state
what does that mean
what does that [Β __Β ] mean
how have we been chauvinist
how have we been chalvinist can can i
okay i ski i see this keep getting
thrown around that we're chauvinist can
one person make the argument that the
so-called american patriotic socialists
are chauvinistic what about us is
chauvinistic
you know you guys realize
who called me a chauvinist what's his
[Β __Β ] name
um
joe sims called me a chauvinist
did you know that joe sims said the
black belt thesis was one of the worst
things the communist party has ever done
and i'm trying to revive the black belt
thesis which means i actually believe in
national self-determination for black
people in america and he doesn't he
thinks that they should have no
self-determination
and that they're just part of the united
states
like i'm aligned with black nationalism
how am i the chauvinist i want to know
how i'm the javelinist
named cedric that actually i was trying
to hire as a ceo my boy jean tutor had
an apc which is based like the french
version of gaap which is the first
person to really that was in a
prestigious position to really let me do
a collaboration
uh with them and so we had this apc
collection that sold out back in the day
this is before the louis louis collab
yeah
you know what the louis cloud was first
that's right yeah thank you thank you
phil um i'm a fan yeah
isn't kanye like five seven
you know what i feel like
i feel like
i feel like if
you you won't have a kanye who's like
six
six one or something right you gotta be
like
a manlet like me only people like me in
my height range
we are the movers of society and in the
world that's the truth we are the movers
look a lot of y'all don't want to hear
we are we just can we just so contain
dragon energy in us we just contain this
energy
that just wants to get out we never were
able to grow growing up we never grew
but we just want to grow and expand
outward you know what i'm saying
people who are like six
six two or whatever they already grew so
they're just chilling basically right we
radiate
potential you understand
tell you the truth
kanye has
manlet energy but in a good way he has
good man with energy
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how is height related to i don't know
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is he actually seven i think
tell me if you know someone that needs
now we've been through a lot of things
tell me if you know someone that needs
it
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tell me if you know someone that needs
tell me if you know someone that needs
sitting by myself i'm just thinking
about all i've been through i wish i was
dreaming man it's hard to be an angel
when you're surrounded by demons i watch
so many people leave i see em changed by
the season that's mama's seasoning god
got you the devil's watching he's just
peeking in i know i made a promise that
i never let the reaper in but lately
i've been losing all my deepest friends
and lately i've been swimming on the
deepest end
[Β __Β ] thinking about all these stupid
[Β __Β ] people attacking me non-stop how
much malice and [Β __Β ] hate there is
you know what i mean
but then i [Β __Β ]
see kanye and i'm like [Β __Β ] man i'm not
alone i'm really not alone
there's other people who are like me
who just
are in this position where we just
insist on this truth and society is
telling us the contrary what i'm saying
everyone's trying to tell us one thing
and we're insisting on something
different and we're not giving in to the
pressure of changing
of what they're telling
when a us clears
and if i talk to christ can i bring my
mother back to life and if i die tonight
will i see you in the afterlife but back
to reality where everything is a tragedy
you better have a strategy or you could
be a statistic little boy dies he just
wanted a mystic and mama steady crying
cause she really the victim now she's
getting high and she's getting addicted
and the older boy just stuck with the
picture painted vivid that's a family
portrait
of course they
talking about like random twitch people
that i meet you want to know why i won't
make friends with them and like be close
with them or whatever or trust them
because
when society turns against me
they will cave
i will never network with twitch
streamers and just be part of this
[Β __Β ] general crowd because
that's connected to society when society
goes against me they will behave and
they'll turn against me
i can only have anti-social
relationships you know what an
anti-social relationship means it means
people who ride or die with me and stand
with me against the world that's what i
believe
tell me one reason i shouldn't send you
up to christ he said go ahead take my
life and that's so hard that's so hard
to ask of people or expect of people
because people are just connected
to the society
and every tongue confessed and paid
homage to the monk who visit rob childs
like the loneliest dead peronica it's
jay elect anton dronica coming through
your monitor back from the great neander
the son of man and the son of donda hey
see think tank i'm gonna have you go to
bed i'm gonna give you uh a nice nine
hours of sleep
so you can go to
bed to the game if i lay one vocal the
god is interstellar while you fellas
remain local my bars is like the pyramid
temple's apocalypse it sure as the doj
confirmed these egos will i could change
the world i got cool but two pieces of
steel my sword on my microphone i swore
to the chrysler storm but when you great
they wanna say you took a l jose steele
i'm in the fight here fight here for
what seemed like light years
sign of trouble you won't see friends
for dust that's what i think too
that's really the truth that's not what
i think it's what i know the [Β __Β ]
truth man
i have so much sickness in my stomach
making friends with people
because i know they would [Β __Β ] ditch
me
and [Β __Β ] leave me in the dust
when i'm under attack by all sides
by all society
yeah i used to think he was just
egoistic and then i realized
actually society's so [Β __Β ] up the
celebrity culture so [Β __Β ] up everybody
around him was so [Β __Β ] up and fake
[Β __Β ] media was so [Β __Β ] up and
disgusting
completely [Β __Β ] betraying any thank
you for taking the fight for me pretends
the truth you know
he was egoistic good
he had a right to be egoistic because he
was being egoistic as a form of defying
the ego that was being given to him by
the [Β __Β ] public by the [Β __Β ] media
and by the dumbass [Β __Β ] public they
were trying to force
an image on him that he didn't believe
in or agree with and he was saying [Β __Β ]
you i'ma go my own way and that took the
form of his own ego and [Β __Β ] uh god
bless him for doing that
and the reality that he raised me in is
that he wanted to make a change
because the conditions in this catalyst
is what made him and is what made the
children of the day after 25 years of
being locked down 23-1 my father has not
called any shots from one of the most
secure and segregated prisons in the
world and will not once released call
any shots for the gates of disciples if
my father's intentions would lead us to
death destruction
thank you so
[Music]
be dead to much
i didn't sign up for that
i didn't stay on this journey this long
for that
all my life
man i've been waiting for my father to
come home
[Music]
they told
me when i graduate eighth grade
he'll be home
then they told me
when i graduate from high school
he'll be home
you know what i've always
asked of people
that's all i've ever asked the people
it's the only thing i've ever asked of
anyone
and my daughter went away to college and
graduated
he's still not home
now even more than that
my son
he graduated eighth grade
and we still waiting
matter of fact he hasn't hugged kissed
or touched any of his grandchildren and
they haven't been able to touch their
grandfather even though
it is not seen that way for some of us
but for many of us larry hoover is a
beacon of hope for his community who
deserves to breathe free here
freed my father
mr larry who was singing
[Music]
you want to know what i really ask of
people
to do
ready this is what i ask of you
don't hide behind crowds
don't hide behind crowds
i'm asking you not to hide behind crowds
that's it
don't hide behind a crowd
there's no substance to a crowd there's
no substance
don't hide behind something just because
don't think
you're gonna get away with something
just because it's what other people are
saying what other people are doing
as the consequences will always rear
their head
independently
yes i want to go back to certain things
with the louis thing okay but so the ceo
of balenciaga picked me up now i i came
with all i got is this like little bag
that's like my house and my house
changes in size depending on how big my
bag is
like i had this one that was like a
laminate size and that once i got the
apple headphones they wouldn't fit in it
so i had to get a bigger house which
ended up being
talk about a mobile home
end up being this one
right and i'm so happy that thugs wear
this uh this bag now man i'll call it
yeah so people can stop down at me
i can do eating this
this is nothing
so um
so i ride uh to the balenciaga store
with the ceo of balenciaga
and i didn't have a change of underwear
but for what
you know i've done with valencia
especially over the past four months
guess what my underwear and socks ended
up being for the next four days in paris
valenciaga underwear for free and that's
when i was sitting there i was like yo
this is my vision on life to not even
have to have a house to have a place in
every single world every single city
every single country that i could go to
and somebody's like you could stay here
you could sleep here like uh
my my dog boo
was like man yeah you in my city recall
brother yeah okay he was like you in my
city and the first one i saw i was like
[Β __Β ] i was born in atlanta i was like
what's up i humbled myself saying yes
sir
with a bunch of eyes
put a bunch of eyes uh
and um he's like yo you know i'm down
here working on kc album in houston but
you can stay at my crib and to i know i
got a bunch of cribs i could stay at in
new york i know i got a bunch of cribs i
could stay at and you just move around
like first it was like yaseen think
about mo steph he changed his name
and he started moving around so i would
think about how he was moving around you
know just going through the airport
sometimes standing in line
sometimes not standing in line getting a
uh uber uber be cancelling me i'm not
gonna say uber's trash now i'm just
saying i'm not gonna lie to you
4.9
yeah i don't even know my i barely you
know i barely know how to work it i just
got my apple pay you know just mad you
just got apple pay let's make some noise
because you really are a superhero i got
apple paper now it's time to make apple
pay
all right go ahead that was all that was
all i'm stealing that ball
okay so
have you watched versus
yes yeah
you know i'm going with it yeah
would you step into that ring
oh absolutely
but i would need about like four people
that to go against me at one time
[Applause]
i need i need producers money people who
make good albums i need people who make
radio hits i need every single gemini
specifically emcee i need every
okay okay
top five especially gemini would you
like you like some hennessy or did you
like would you like a class well you
know let me explain what hennessey is
doing to the community
so
you know we know what the people gonna
say
people are gonna say
they want yay
against
who you think the people think
they want to see you again
uh there's only two people really out
there yeah no i think every it'd be
drake right
thank you
at home that's yeah yeah oh i didn't
think about that one
i didn't think about that
oh old nephew right there he watching
you
i um no i like that i like that
gold against jake
nah cause that's my boss i would never
go against that answer but what you
saying when you and drake together
who's winning that
i'm winning every situation that's why
it's like
holy [Β __Β ]
and who producer wise though would it be
dre
oh producer-wise
[Music]
that's why i said it gotta be i need to
have like a month-long
just different categories different
styles you have a season of your own
verses yeah
you wanted to destroy your life
how did i want to destroy your life
i could just be versus myself it could
be that's how i'm against that album i
had to go
dark fantasy against
well i don't think anything goes against
dark fantasy but
college drop out against
the old graduation
oh yeah we could do that we do the old
yeah against new year we do all like
sample drums versus trap drones we can
do all bars versus all different name
changes going against each other yeah
different eras of yeah holy moly
guacamole this is exciting [Β __Β ] but you
telling me i just i just want to just
for the fans it's not for me yeah
if swiss come to you because it's not
about money what you i can tell it's not
about money but swiss timberland say
you and drake against one another you
saying you're gonna take it and you're
gonna smoke
yeah absolutely okay all right that's
all i need to be clear
but it already happened he played one of
my leaked songs and it was better than
every other song this year because you
did leak drake's address correct
no he advertised it when he was building
the house
everyone knows it's like a place in
canada you go by it's like it's a
monument right
yeah
every
we didn't know that because you know we
look at people over here yeah you know
you can find it that's how i was able to
find it it's google-able it's on google
maps i like it that's my word you know i
made up that word
what i will say i understand that
you know
in in all of the the back and forth that
me and drake have had
you know it's like the light life is
like infrared
and people are either on your team
or they're on another team and everybody
plays games in different kind of ways
and you can't be mad for somebody at the
end of the day this man has sold more
records than anybody and part of his
technique and basketball people got
different techniques like i went to uh
to the gym with kobe
and we didn't even really get to play
ball all he did was show me videos of
scottie pippen
and you know scottie pippen's got a wide
wingspan but he didn't talk about that
he talked about
how fast he was moving his feet
and he was like oh this is inhuman right
it's inhumane this is like
and he was studying that he wanted to
learn how fast he moved his feet so
when drake
drake don't
do a dis like outright this song where's
the headshot he's gonna
set up set it up like war you're gonna
calculate it and strategy yeah when
people went to go get hitler they didn't
go straight for hillary they set up fake
tanks they said they said so he gonna do
stuff like
live five blocks down the street from
you
dm every
day prep through the light switch that
that is that yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah are you talking
you're gonna like go and you know
dm every single
girl in your family every single girl
around your family everybody ever all
your [Β __Β ] girl
he's gonna
so it becomes like so you already got
that it's like away games and home games
and stuff like it's football are you
playing
professional wrestling
i gotta out about something i saw i
watched it i don't i don't want to watch
it on stream because i know you guys
don't like it or care about it but i
watched uh the [Β __Β ] elden ring
gameplay [Β __Β ] oh that game looks good
that game looks really [Β __Β ] cool and
based oh my god and and i'm so scared
right now and i'm so [Β __Β ] like
worried because it's like
is chad gonna let me play elden ring
because i actually wanna [Β __Β ] play it
and i'm not just saying i want to play
it for stream like
i really want to play it
but i don't know if chad's going to let
me play it because unless i play it on
stream i'm not going to have time i'll
have to play it on stream
but i don't want my views to you know
what i think i'm going to do for elden
ring i'm gonna have
daily elden ring a lot of time so i'm
gonna be like i'll stream for like four
hours and then two hours elden ring
each string
right
but
i'll be playing it for a long time guys
don't be thinking i'm gonna play elden
ring for like a few streams
like that's a game i'm probably gonna
play for like [Β __Β ] months you know
on and off at least it said like [Β __Β ]
dude it looks so good and i'm gonna
break yeah oh god elden ring looks so
good dude i'm not a big gamer guy either
also i'm gonna play halo as well but
actually no i'm not gonna play halo
because um
it's not releasing with forge therefore
i don't care about it
a place of like professional rap so all
that's there so
if he throws out a bar right here it
might be a bar
only
like what what park say you and i know
what's going on yeah right but it's all
psychological right so it's like what
pin
what button is someone gonna hit where
can where where you hit them it's like i
was just at the game with jay prince
last night
it was talking about how
how many below the belts there were
how many this there was and the whole
thing about that record that yeah you
know what you know it is i got the
perfect i never thought about this
tonight okay you know what
i bit his ear
i bit his ear yeah but tyson
because they did
that i can't see what holyfield was
doing right they see what he was doing
tyson like telling the refs like yo yeah
you see this he's like tyson i'm going
to take this tomorrow
holy [Β __Β ] i've never heard of this no
but you make everything i'm just because
it's in front of me i was like i was a
fight there
we talking about this we've been you
know discussing doing things together to
uh
uh to bring attention to
hoover's situation right um and actually
i got larry hoover
i introduced myself
i recognized his face so at a certain
moment i want to take a moment when you
could talk about the exact same thing
absolutely understand this leader and
political prisoner right you know like
when i went to the white house i said
this is me in a different dimension you
know any one of us that can organize
somebody they to take us down they've
been taking you know the leaders and the
fathers out of the community and only
leave us with a hustler mentality
because you ain't got a dad that's
showing you how to save money and what
property to buy and how to build your
own factories we're going to be jumping
up and down for the idea like yeah i
know getting a job i know from software
is basically about critiques of the
western world
um
i i know i know [Β __Β ] um
bloodborne is about that
but i always kind of thought dark souls
was a critique of japan and um
eastern stagnation right i always just
thought it was a critique of that where
it's like
i don't know
i always thought uh dark souls was a
critique of kind of eastern culture
in a way
or no or me getting a job at the gap or
adidas a lot of times just like we all
was born white supremacists racist and
homophobic that's the bottom that's the
baseline that's another thing i don't
even got the word for it but it's like a
phobia of mental health that's the thing
when people try to write it off that's
like even when i cut my hair like that
i'm like yo they're going to try to
figure what's the name of that haircut
at first you know i called it the
britney
oh you know what you know what a lot of
you know something i really do now is um
i always try to put myself in the shoes
of like a random bystander
and just be like what are my impressions
of
this person
and it's hard for me to do that because
i'm an influencer and i'm a [Β __Β ]
celebrity now and i'm getting all this
attention and [Β __Β ]
um
it's super hard for me to be able to
[Β __Β ]
you know
i can't look at an influencer without
being like okay i understand where
they're coming from i've dealt with this
[Β __Β ] before so i'm very charitable now
when i see like an influencer
getting cancelled or embarrassed or
something it's like okay i understand
how it works like it's probably not
their fault
but when i was just a random
like non-influencer
um
i don't know
i think i was way more judgmental
like oh yeah that guy's a loser oh that
guy's cool oh that guy's weird
you know
i don't know
okay
now i could be called a yay but when i
like so when i when i think about his
haircut he's like oh i was wondering
what they're going to say about my
haircut
i don't know
what did i think about his haircut i
don't know
see when i see that bro i'm telling you
you know the declaration of insanity is
a form of censorship and control
like you taking something to see
i think okay
i don't know what the hell you talking
about but this is [Β __Β ] interesting
let's
you know feds democrat whatever they
they they know who i am so i was i was
up there like man maybe i shouldn't do
you know this interview because that's
when they really going to come you got
to understand come on say whatever the
[Β __Β ] you want over here yeah yeah but
it's called everything has like a
butterfly effect kobe died on
you know in calabasas right you know i'm
saying on the street where i would drive
my kids to school that's crazy this
video game this grant that fodo
is real right
you know so uh but you know with me and
drake
we all really on the same team just even
on this planet period we on the same
team we we
the people we think is our ops and all
this stuff
once we understand and this is i think
the job that god actually has for me is
for us to all realize that we are
playing inside of the same time that's
one thing we all got in common if we're
all in the same place in a christian
calendar right at at all times
we could be the first
civilization to become civil a matter of
fact let me take out the word can i hate
the word can i hate these like in
between
you know
you can't work can and should and if
it's like feds it's like somebody you
think is with you they're not really
with you they're like a fourth leg they
could just
fall anytime your whole table fall over
like that's why we have to wield these
things in fruition so we say we will be
the first civilization to become silver
we still in the dark ages we attack each
other mentally we go back to the rap
stuff with me and drake this is we in
world war three this is warfare right
here what they do people can comment on
you online that you don't know you can't
come see them you know saying it's a
career in korea the suicide rates is
crazy people's esteem how you feel about
yourself body dysmorphia overdoing it
with the drip and all that so i'm about
like robin hood really breaking down the
class system that's why i went to the
gap
like people was like man virgil went to
louis you went to the gap i said i
always wanted to create
egalitarianism yeah i was [Β __Β ] based
based as [Β __Β ]
perfect i worked for the gap so it was
meant to be i always felt like gap was
sort of like apple of apparel for me
esteem and clothing is so connected your
ego your ego connected to the first time
my mom bought me some jordans in fourth
grade i didn't even know there was the
fours i got the fours in fourth grade if
i always looking for like lineups like
that
and
my somebody told my mama he gonna like
this and then i walked through the
school and everybody was looking at my
shoes i didn't even know about it then i
would go visit my dad out in uh tacoma
park maryland and it was this uh rich
kid that had enough jordans to be able
to wear mismatched jordans like bbd and
he'd have them with the gebo
shorts and would poke with a polo shirt
because i'm coming there dressed like
heavy d with the metal with the tip of
my shoes and stuff with like rayon
shirts and polka dots and he's like we
don't dress like that no more we dressed
like this
i came back to chicago with the new
style and ever since then i always been
like
ahead of [Β __Β ]
and i always i always like that feeling
of being ahead but if you're ahead long
enough you got eventually you need to
become the head you need to become the
leader so i
i had a wildest conversation i remember
this one time lauren gonna be mad at me
about texas i said i'm i'm saying lauren
you told my lauren hill yeah lauren hill
okay there's gonna be a lot of
super name drops
getting the graphics ready and i was
like i was like i'm the i'm the leader
and she's like you you a leader you're
not
sure
[Applause]
yeah but no the the supreme leader is
god but god appoints leaders right
at a certain point they they are leaders
right you know so order like me too like
when i sit next to
marilyn manson and and the baby right
after both of them got canceled for five
songs
you know it's like they can't cancel us
all all right they actually said dave
chappelle jason pauling getting captured
that's what i'm saying we got it and
then it's like that hit you with like an
accusation or somebody that you was with
you know 10 years ago
okay and then also it's like there's
women who have been through
really serious
things pulled in alleys
against they will
that's different than a hug right but
it's classified
as the same thing it's classified as the
same thing
you know it's it's power and politics
you know power hungry maniacs and just
control this is 1984 mind control that
we're in and it's my mentality too
how do you feel about counseling
oh man i love it
they try to count you like 15 times
that's it i love it i'm above it
you know what i mean
i love it i'm above it you know that's
the clouds when you're in a jet you look
down at the clouds
it's like i'm like running to get cancer
doing this show it's just like yeah
[Applause]
yo
i'm trying to get to that point you know
i have to be more famous and i need more
supporters
but i'm almost i'm pretty much there you
know
and then different people will call me
and make suggestions to be like you know
i suggest you know maybe you shouldn't
be buying if you suggesting that to me
why are you so into it unless you really
into it
unless you really part of the mob
because the mob it got a couple mob
members here right now most definitely
most definitely you know what i'm saying
that different kind of mob but you got
to understand they all doing a job we
all here for a reason god got a reason
god sees everything and if and if i'm if
i'm still alive god's not finished like
i say on 24 which i wrote
um
i actually wrote the day before kobe
passed the melody
and we ended up and the funny thing we
went back and forth on this song and
when we did the listening
series i'm not sure you know what you're
talking about
about what
look the truth will come out
the truth will come out when the truth
comes out
every single person who didn't believe
me
i'm not going to show you
mercy i'm not gonna forgive you
pick a subject
you pick a subject
any literally any subject
yeah when the truth comes out about my
level of knowledge
for example
and who i really am
and you feel bad for how [Β __Β ] wrong
you are i'm not gonna forgive you
i'm not gonna forgive you
you're gonna lose a lot of cred and
you're gonna lose a lot of legitimacy
and i'm not gonna show mercy and taking
away what little clout you have and
completely delegitimize you forever
it'll be embarrassing for you okay well
the truth will come out the truth will
come out and we'll see
if who i really am is the picture you
and your friends have painted on me
i remember your jackson debate
what are you even [Β __Β ] talking about
and you have no idea what lenin was
talking about
okay
get in vc and let's talk about what
lenin was talking about
we we'll see who's more well read on
lenin then who
we'll see who knows more about lenin
i look like a weirdo do you have a
girlfriend
cause i promise you she would prefer me
to you
i promise you she would prefer me
you don't know what you're talking about
prove it can you prove that
can you prove that or demonstrate that
in any way
can you actually back that up with
anything
yo vc okay get in the discord
get in the discord right now
all right
show cue i'll be waiting
hey hop on vc get in the show cue i'm
waiting
you're in my discord vc
no you're not
what's your discord name you're not in
my discord vc
what's your discord name
socialism for all reacts to infrared
haws tweets
conservatism which has always included
these elements anti-feminism
anti-lgbtq plus etc
soy mails
that seems like a really potentially
dramatically harmful concept actually
because by that logic if you could yeah
it's because you're very low t and
you're
yourself a soy mail just rid the world
of soy mails presumably by any means
necessary
you would have
zero issues
i think you have a lot of issues i don't
think that they really have to do with
the okay you're literally stretching but
let's just say all soy mails
became chad or disappeared magically
i would have no enemies in this world if
the if only real men existed in this
world i would have no enemies i would
not be cancelled on twitter ever i'd
have no issues they would we would be
living in communism there's no issue
so
east germany
and i don't see they're trying to bait
me into taking like an anti-lgbt
position which is why i don't like
responding to this thank you mazdan
thought but this was during the late 80s
during a period of total liberalization
where a lot of experimental stuff
that was coming from the west was
adopted by the [Β __Β ] uh
east germany
that even went beyond the west itself
but that wasn't because of communism at
all that was not because of communism
um
this is not a real stamp
so what this is not
there's nothing non-conservative about
this whatsoever
again conservatism is about the relation
to the counterculture
okay
and what else
yeah the model who has he him
if you notice he didn't really put that
there it's part of the instagram model
[Β __Β ] uh
thing
that's what models do it's very common
in model culture it's not because these
virtual signaling but nice try
most people recognize that this kind of
shut the [Β __Β ] up you dumb lying [Β __Β ]
okay who's the guy in vc this guy okay
what up [Β __Β ]
speak
where do you want
okay you said i don't know much about
anything so we're going to test
my knowledge of lenin let's go
and yours
look hold on
the main issue i have with you is your
patriotism take yeah like with like it's
been haggard out but like you don't
listen to nobody and you've just been
having confidence they're all full of
[Β __Β ] they're all full of [Β __Β ] and
they're all right
explain to me how what the national
liberation movement of america is
there is nowhere is it written that
patriotism only exists for oppressed
countries
it's called revolutionary patriotism
revolutionary patriotism in an
imperialist country would also take the
form of revolutionary defeatism which
means fighting wars
no yeah yeah yeah actually yeah actually
yeah
actually yeah this idea that you're
getting that patriotism is only for the
oppressed people and marginalized people
it doesn't hold to the history of
marxism leninism and the traditional
marxism leninism historically
oh my god you don't even know what
marxism leninism is so i'm not even
kidding i don't know what marxism
leninism okay explain to me the policy
of the popular fronts of the 1930s did
the policy of the popular front demand
that marxist leninists become patriots
in order to seize hegemony over their
countries even before seizing power in
the advanced capitalist first world
countries
do you understand that like do you know
anything about the policy of the popular
front france spain the united kingdom
the united states what was the policy of
the popular front
do you understand the popular front
cannot work in the imperial core because
it is not the orthodox marxist land in
his position because the position of the
popular front has been inherited through
every single major marxist leninist
party and every single communist state
in the form of the popular people's
democracies after world war ii since
then so if you're going to reject the
popular front you're engaging in
revisionism
go ahead go ahead and tell me those
countries or talk about because every
single people's democracy in eastern
europe lists them
because listen listen okay listen you
want me to list them one by one you're
not gonna name you're not poland hungary
czech slovakia east germany should i go
on
not imperialist and once again not the
imperial court east germany
the imperial corps oh east germany was
not the imperial listen you stupid [Β __Β ]
since you don't know anything about the
history of marxism leninism or the
[Β __Β ] popular front the common turns
policy of the popular front also applied
to the so-called imperial core and also
demanded that in america and in the
united kingdom the foremost imperialist
countries and france one of the foremost
imperialist countries communists have to
be patriotic the communist party usa
even regardless of the listen the
communist party usa in conformity with
the directives of the common turn was
vegan mentally patriotic if you want to
know what the [Β __Β ] you're saying right
now only through national liberation
movements can you can you do the math
okay what does that have to do with
marxism leninism where are marxism
runners does it say that only oppressed
countries and nations have the right to
be patriotic
let's let's actually let's actually
break this now we're going to use
exactly i want you to cite one piece of
marxist letting this literature to back
up your [Β __Β ] claim are you [Β __Β ] to
die for the people by huey p goddamn
newton you stupid some [Β __Β ]
so so the die for the people by huey p
newton says
why did they ally with the young
patriots then they literally allied with
a group called the young patriots of
white appalachian young patriots why did
they ally with them
the black panthers create their rainbow
coalition okay why were patriots
involved chauvinistic settler patriots
a vanguard party the national the
national liberation movement the
vanguard party
second of all the black panthers were
not orthodox marxist leninists actually
they introduced phenomenalism and
decolonization and black nationalism
which is outside of marx's landings
orthodoxy actually
bro
what where does uap newton say where
does up noon say that americans can't be
patriots
you cannot be patriotic of america
because it is the family cited site
where he said that
are you gonna make me pull out my
goddamn yes pull it out now and cite
where he said that
oh jesus christ the issue being is you
cannot be citations citations citations
citations
citations citations citations citations
fight to me where anywhere in marxist
letting this literature where they say
within the imperial core communist party
should not be patriotic
in mao mao says that i am oh sure okay
i'll pull up to you a quote right now by
mao speaking in regards to japan you
want to talk about mao mao literally was
more sympathetic to the [Β __Β ] nixon
rep mal was literally more sympathetic
to the populist nixon republicans what
the [Β __Β ] are you talking about mao
literally literally advocated for
american patriots to rise up and crush
imperialism literally called upon
japanese patriotism
to rise up and crush american
imperialism directly ad verbatim now
talked about the patriotic japanese
people fighting american imperialism the
action areas that take power you're
essentially advocating for fascism
you're you're advocating for
reactionaries
it's not my fault that mao was more
sympathetic to the republicans than the
democrats and he literally said we favor
the republicans over the democrats to
nixon he said that [Β __Β ] what mal [Β __Β ]
did
i don't give a [Β __Β ] what mao said well i
give a [Β __Β ] what he said
okay if you give a [Β __Β ] what he said
then you understand what mal compared
japanese patriotism to chinese
patriotism and how those are too vastly
different yeah yeah no no he didn't he
didn't he didn't actually he said he
said it is in the overwhelming interest
of the japanese people and it is in
their patriotic duty to be revolutionary
defeaters he was talking about the
relation to war and he said for the
japanese people the patriotic thing to
do is to be defeated and for the chinese
people the patriotic thing to do is
fight a war of independence against the
japanese because why because
specifically why is it the duty to be
revolutionary defeat is what about the
japanese there is nothing
incompatible between patriotism and
revolutionary defeatism oh my god what's
the national identity of america go
ahead
the national identity of america was
founded in 1776 and is epitomized in the
spirit and philosophy of pragmatism the
united states is a union state that
doesn't have an inherent cultural or
national identity but rather as a
platform
that tolerates a multiplicity of
experimentations by local communities to
pursue and explore and discover various
different national identities
my god you just said the national
identity of america was founded in 1776
who founded the 1776 liberation movement
was it old white landowning men was it
was it was the american farmers and the
american it was the american colonies
fighting against the british monarchy
and the british
poor empire
were the [Β __Β ] people who were signing
the goddamn declaration of independence
from the goddamn constitution in fact
wait wait presidents weren't presidents
didn't write the soviet constitution
either the american founding fathers
were representing those peasants you
dumb [Β __Β ]
yes they were yes they [Β __Β ] were
those year men were being represented by
the [Β __Β ] founding fathers dumbass
by moderate estimates by moderate
estimates only
a third of the american colonists wanted
to be independent a third i'm bought by
by overestimating a third so no they did
not represent yeah they did they
actually did they actually did represent
the [Β __Β ] human you're talking out of
your [Β __Β ] ass
citations citations citations you
[Β __Β ] kidding me it's a bourgeoisie
it's a bourgeois revolution in 1776
marked
said that i don't understand
marx literally in his address that he
signed to abraham lincoln you want me to
read marx's address to abraham lincoln
that he signed
marx in engles literally said america
already had a democratic constitution
and suffices for the military to take
that as as its foundation in order to
seize power marks and engels literally
talked about the revolutionary
significance of 1776 and how it lays the
how it lays the foundation for the
revolution the proletarian revolutions
of europe he spoke about the civil war
in the same way he said the civil war is
going to herald the european revolution
of the proletariat
nationalism and therefore no better than
a [Β __Β ] fascist
okay first of all marx and engels
considered the bourgeois revolutions to
be historically progressive not fascist
you dumb [Β __Β ]
but you are calling the american
identity founded in 1776 the thing to be
patriotic about therefore you are
advocating for bourgeoisie no it's not
because it's not essentially bourgeois
it's not essentially
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the flag of the german democratic
republic the tri-color colored flag was
based on the bourgeois revolution of
1848 just like the rest of the [Β __Β ]
people's democracies in europe we're all
based in
in the 19th century including poland so
shut your dumbass up about this [Β __Β ]
idea that communists do not inherit the
legacies of the bourgeois revolution
because they do
nothing to do
with nationality has nothing to do with
that their national identity yes it
[Β __Β ] does germany as a nation state
was literally based in the tradition of
bourgeois democratic revolution in the
19th century the german nation state
german nation state that is explicitly
for the german people literally arose at
that [Β __Β ] time you dumb stupid [Β __Β ]
there was no german unified german
nation state before 1848 to dumbass
i really didn't think it was real that
somebody who considers himself on the
launch as a marxist londonist could be
as stupid as you are but i'm clearly
respond to the argument
respond to what argument the national
identity of european countries is
ancient the united
[Β __Β ] country st europe whatsoever all
of these identities were founded
by the bourgeois democracies and
bourgeois revolutions of the 19th
century
by the same groups of people for [Β __Β ]
centuries when you're comparing it to a
country that is hardly two wait settlers
hold on the same settlers have been
inhabiting the americas for centuries
what the [Β __Β ] are you talking about is
your cutoff date 1453 or something
you're comparing over
1500 years to
200 years
300 years is when the united states as a
state was founded for which we are being
patriotic for but the american people
and black people in america moreover
preceded the constitution of the united
states for hundreds of years
you're saying colonization's the
national identity then because the
americans are not it's not just
colonization of something called
indigenization people move here and they
become part of
they moved here and they lived here and
became part of the [Β __Β ] country you
dumbass
you don't understand listen you dumb
stupid [Β __Β ] dumb [Β __Β ] idiot [Β __Β ]
listen dumb [Β __Β ] the american war of
independence would not have been
possible work not for the fact that the
american people being here for hundreds
of years constituted an entirely
different [Β __Β ] identity and culture
and country than the united kingdom they
would not have [Β __Β ] declared
independence otherwise you dumbass you
did not identify as americans they never
did because
you dumbass the [Β __Β ] france and
germany didn't really exist either
before their nation states
the national identity did not exist in
america until 1776 and then that
national identity was founded but that's
that that's really not even [Β __Β ] true
because there was a distinction but
there was i'm gonna mute this dumb
[Β __Β ] [Β __Β ] stupid [Β __Β ] dumb ass [Β __Β ]
you have to be [Β __Β ] muted because you
keep running your stupid [Β __Β ] [Β __Β ]
mouth and don't know when to shut the
[Β __Β ] up you stupid [Β __Β ] there was a
[Β __Β ] distinction between american
colonists and [Β __Β ] british people you
dumb [Β __Β ] just because they didn't
explicitly
differentiated between [Β __Β ] americans
and [Β __Β ] uh the british doesn't
[Β __Β ] mean it [Β __Β ] wasn't there
just like how the french revolution and
the french nation state that arose after
the french revolution named and made
intelligible a distinction and
difference that was there for many
centuries in a long time yeah just
because the [Β __Β ] united states
explicitly came into being in 1776
didn't mean that they were were in
different material cultural national
and so on and so on differences with
[Β __Β ] britain before then you stupid
dumb [Β __Β ]
do you understand do you not understand
that the france existed before the
french revolution before the did you
just hear what i said you stupid dumb
[Β __Β ] did you just hear what i said did
you just hear what i said you stupid
[Β __Β ] did you just hear what i [Β __Β ]
said you stupid [Β __Β ]
have you even read stalin's marxism in
the national you haven't read it
yourself stalin literally talks about
how the united states became a separate
nation than britain and you use it as an
example you literally use the united
states as an example in that work i'm
defining your reading read stalin's
marxist i'm gonna okay if okay here's
the thing and when i cite this to you
when i literally cite this to you about
how stalin talks about how the united
states became different you have to
literally go to the doctors and get your
balls removed and send them to me
bro neither of us have cited anything
neither neither of us so stop saying
you're exciting i'm going inside here
right now actually you haven't cited
[Β __Β ] and i'm glad you're i'm going to do
it right now right now i'm going to do
it
though i am glad that your local
companies are quoting for you it means
you have the intelligence to formulate
you
really here we go here we go
english men and americans speak one
nation but they do not constitute one
nation but why for instance do the
english and the americans not constitute
one nation by their common language
first because they do not live together
but inhabit different territories a
nation is formed only as a result of a
lengthy and systemic intercourse as a
result of people living together
generation after generation but people
cannot live together for lengthy periods
unless they have a common territory
englishmen and americans originally
inhabited the same territory england and
constitute one nation later one section
of the english emigrated from england to
a new territory america and there in a
new territory in the course of time came
to form the new american nation
difference of territory led to the
formation of different nations
in the [Β __Β ] book you [Β __Β ] cited
you stupid [Β __Β ]
yeah guys keep reading the national
movement go ahead keep reading keep
reading keep reading you
literally said america even the nation
and silently pointed out that the way in
which america got constituted as a
nation wasn't just 1776 but because a
section of england moved to the americas
and gradually became a different nation
the question of the national movement by
the way you dumbass has nothing to do
with whether socialists have patriotism
or pride in their nation or country you
stupid
dumbass you don't understand the concept
of the national identity you don't you
don't get it because you read the part
citation i've excited you something give
me your citation give me your citation
give me your citation give me your
citation give me your citation give me
your
the national question which directly
contradicts you you stupid dumb [Β __Β ] you
literally done [Β __Β ]
you not understand the material reality
do not understand the material reality
do you not understand it because black
people black people are not part of the
american national identity [Β __Β ]
indigenous people
many many black
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talking people but see here's the thing
here's the thing it's not your place to
agree or disagree with the black belt
thesis you chauvinist [Β __Β ]
um yes it is because my goal is to
[Β __Β ] listen to the leaders of the
black community and the leaders of black
people and if they seek and i i think
from what i've heard from black
nationalists they want national
self-determination
yeah and i consider them right for
representatives of their community
and you don't need to agree or disagree
with it you chauvinist bro yes i do need
to agree or disagree with you dumbass
about you everything about you screams
reactionary but like socialism
everything about you you're just a
[Β __Β ] anti-social loser who hates
their own community so you run and you
run to black people and you run to my
indigenous people and you run to
minorities and you think they're going
to justify your [Β __Β ] [Β __Β ]
anti-social stance of being a [Β __Β ]
nerd and a loser who gets bullied all
the time in your own community because
you're a loser you don't get any [Β __Β ]
so you blame everyone else shut the [Β __Β ]
up
that's why that's what i [Β __Β ] thought
shut the [Β __Β ] up
what did you say what did you say
how much organizing have you done how
much organizing have you done
the principal position of being a
[Β __Β ] communist is being an organizer
and you haven't what have you organized
tell me what you've organized tell me
what you organized
how much have i organized
mutual aid networks i've organized
[Β __Β ] political movements concretely
what's the mutual aid you organized tell
us what you did
i i cannot dox myself you [Β __Β ] weird
no we don't need those details
you gave people food
i've give i've started a mutual aid
network where it's not just giving
people a bunch of bums like you a bunch
of student bums who got who got uh
stupid meaningless degrees and are in
debt uh help each other out yeah that's
what everyone does dude that's not a
mutual aid network
you hand out food and guess what nothing
happens you're not organizing anyone
you're just handing free [Β __Β ] out
you're just handing free [Β __Β ] out you're
not organizing anyone trust me you're
not i promise you you didn't organize
even one person doing that
you didn't organize one person just
handing food out i promise you
let's see here's the thing read the
[Β __Β ] black panthers you stupid [Β __Β ]
yeah yeah yeah you're not going to
replete you're not going to repeat the
successes of the black panthers you're
not going to repeat the successes of the
black panthers the black panthers free
breakfast program which american
leftists have been trying to emulate for
decades and decades that can't be
[Β __Β ] replicated because they have no
idea why the black panthers were
successful in doing that in the first
place and exhibit a it wasn't just
because they were [Β __Β ] uh giving out
free [Β __Β ] now someone in the chat has a
quote which i'm gonna address so i'm
gonna mute your [Β __Β ] ass keep yapping
your mouth no one can hear you anyway
the fate of the national movement which
is essentially a bourgeois movement is
naturally bound up with the fate of the
bourgeoisie the final disappearance of a
national movement is only possible with
the downfall of the bourgeoisie only
under the reign of social can peacefully
be established but even within the
framework of capitalism it is possible
to reduce the national struggle to a
minimum to undermine at its root to
render it as harmless as possible to the
proletariat and what is your point you
know stalin was talking about that
within the context of the national
movement within the russian empire and
he was basically
adopting a position which lenin
disagreed now i actually agree more with
stalin about this question i just don't
think he understood and appreciated the
full significance of it but stalin was
effectively saying that only under
socialism will there not be a need for a
national movement anymore because
people's national realities and concerns
will be adequately addressed
you stupid ass [Β __Β ]
what would you say to a socialist
patriotism that overthrows the crime
booze while capitalism of the u.s with a
proletarian republic
because that's what marx and engels said
they said we already have a [Β __Β ]
democratic constitution and we just need
a proletarian dictatorship is a layer on
top we already have the bourgeois
[Β __Β ] democracy we don't need a new
bourgeois democracy china has a people's
republic and it has the rule of the
party we have a democratic republic all
we need is the rule of the party and by
the way even the [Β __Β ] founding
fathers intended to be one party only
what is democratic about slavery and
private property ask marx and angles you
dumb [Β __Β ] they're the ones who called it
a democratic constitution marx and
engles literally identified democracy
with usual revolution and the reign of
private property
but they just considered an important
and integral part of socialism and
communism
you stupid [Β __Β ]
now
i'm done because this was a [Β __Β ]
pointless discussion yeah you got your
[Β __Β ] ass handed to you dumb [Β __Β ]
don't ever tell me i don't know what i'm
talking about you literally [Β __Β ]
cited stalin in the national question
got [Β __Β ] embarrassed right off the
[Β __Β ] back you dumb ass [Β __Β ]
i've never destroyed someone so [Β __Β ]
thoroughly
in like a week
event down and um
okay give me a sec
give me a sec
good
good
pesto is in show cue
i
i don't know why that's relevant okay
you know what i'm gonna give pesto pesto
always wants to [Β __Β ] talk he's not in
the show cube pistol mime's not in the
show cube what are you talking about
he's not in show queue
who's in shoku
he's not in show q he lost his chance
i gave him a chance i was really gonna
have him on
just okay what does jurist want
just has two seconds to [Β __Β ] fix this
[Β __Β ]
three
two one bye
kalionis uh
kind of about to end the stream
otherwise i would but
i feel like our conversation would be
too deep
at what stage in the history of us would
you have joined the military
1776 in the civil war
the first definitely joined the [Β __Β ]
continental army
in
i'll tell you that much this one
for howard land we started with twitter
for the output
yeah we started with 24. all my people
out the trenches living up making all
right
and then the funny thing i will have a
conversation later
it's just like with logo you know people
i really respect and like to talk to i
don't i don't
i don't just want to drag them up
because
[Β __Β ] exhausted at a clip of kobe and
his daughter in the video
and we called his wife everything and we
couldn't get it cleared
but one of the things when kobe pass
there was somebody that i used to work
with
whose wife
uh tweeted let's not forget
that
kobe
was accused
and that's what they said that's what
snoop
snoop reacted to that yeah because okay
continue so that's what they said
because you talk about superheroes right
they don't wanna uh what would a uh what
did a z say they don't want to see a
black man turn to john gotti or caller
but like they don't want you to have his
they want you to have a house
they want you to have a cars
they want you to look at the numbers
on you know billboard or spotify or
that's completely controlled they want
you to look at your
they want you to base your self-esteem
off a tick-tock
hi god
if another if another [Β __Β ] talk to me
about tick-tock
what's wrong
take it bro it's fine y'all could play
you know
praise god and everything and that's
great i'm happy that it connects to my
children and everything but
it's it's none of these things that can
make me and that's the idea of being a
nomad i like that term though because i
was talking to the head of ikea about
creating i'm sure he won't like that
keep going
i'm gonna do it
this is the first person that went in
metood itself
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so right you're not you're not laughing
you didn't like that
i'm looking i'm reading the energy of
the room it'll be an uproar
here comes the backlash president
let's go you're the president of ikea
what happened he gonna be like so i was
just talking and said look
we need to create
um
better situations for homeless people
you know it's a really utopian dick
dictator concept okay we're gonna
eradicate homelessness what about people
who want to be homeless and there's a
lot of them that want to be there's a
lot of people so that would change you
got to think we used to have water
fountains now we got a plastic problem
because of water bottles that's
capitalism
you know everyone only thinks about
themselves especially our black leaders
right
would none of us run on stage what none
of us say
george bush don't care about we are very
self interested that's two of the best
moments in american history yeah you
said george bush don't care about black
people and when you told taylor swift
that beyonce had the best videos and i
was very
it's american history right there i was
very
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would it be okay to not hit that for the
whole wrestler
no problem i was waiting for you to say
that
man you know i got a gentleman
yeah but that's american history like
what what what
was it hennessy that night that would
tell us where when you stood there
because why did you wanted to do that
you know
well i was showing both of my addictions
you know i found my dad's playboy when i
was five years old and i started
drinking beer or something in high
school so i actually was carrying both
of my addictions one and one arm one and
the other i was actually talked in to
going to the awards show right at that
time it was don c's job to talk me into
stuff they find new people who job would
be to talk me into doing something that
i don't want to do influencers people
around you so
uh that night i said man i'm not going
to this awards show i'm not sitting
through this no more
uh and the very first award they sent me
in the front now you got single ladies
video is like with amber at the time
right yeah okay they they got this is
one of the best videos
of
uh
uh in in history beyonce yeah the single
ladies so it's not it's not that it's
just
for her when an artist does something
that's that compellingly incredible we
got to respect it
like i feel like this year just should
nobody just even put the album in the
category or out of the year so i could
finally have album a year because you
don't want to be the person that beat
donda for hour a year
i love it
i love that yo you gotta understand i
made i may watch the throne
and now i may watch the throne in dark
fantasy in the
same year my beautiful
okay
that's been too long
it's been so long
since i've
been
waiting here
in the end
it doesn't even matter
okay guys
i'm gonna eat some food
i don't wanna watch
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hi guys