OWNING THE LIBS ft. DylanBurnsTV

yeah I'm gonna fucking join right now no

intro

thank you very much

um next we'll go I'm very excited about

this one we never had them on the show

before uh Haas from and for what red I

just want to say I watched the stream of

his last night where he systematically

destroys the the the structure of

empiricism okay this is a it's one to

watch for sure uh how are you doing

house

uh I'm doing great glad to be here I'm

Haas from the infrared show we're a

platform for Marxism leninism and the

age of multi-polarity in the

post-covered world

sounds good uh another two has

uh basically my view on this issue of uh

voter fraud I don't know if there's a

widespread voter fraud in America I

haven't been convinced of anything uh

I'm sure it happened in the past

somewhere along America's history but

basically I think

this issue is a complete distraction and

uh

is a complete basically waste of time

the fact of the matter is

there is a fundamental division

in America certain places geographically

demographically vote

for different candidates it's not an

evenly uh distributed voter base in

terms of partisan affiliation across

Geographic and demographic lines and I

think more attention should be paid to

this division

rather than nothing Burger issues such

as uh

voter fraud and voter ID

but the limits marks this in the sense

that this is bullshit I think there's

always been at least some level of voter

fraud to the level and extension of it

right always seems to come down to how

much evidence you can find right so I'm

sure there's going to be a lot of nuance

about that particular conversation but

at this time I'd like to point out

everybody especially here in the central

Florida area right it's hurricane season

make sure you get yourself a DC to AC

inverter right that way you can plug it

into your vehicle you can have AC lick

the first question I have is does is

this really what convinced you that

these parties that are in power

whoever's doing it are corrupt and are

committed to being in power at the

expense or regardless of the people's

will and they'll do anything they can to

stay in power and second of all the very

reason why they're still in power the

very reason why nobody can challenge

their Authority is because they always

whip up these bullshit partisan-nothing

burgers that divides people on one of

the two sides and people end up saying

well I gotta go vote for the Democrats

to stop those Republicans or I gotta go

vote for those Republicans to stop the

Democrats nobody really thinks about why

don't we starve the machine

and vote for third parties and actually

not vote for either of these two parties

because that's actually going to be the

only way that whatever corruption is

going on whatever it is and I don't know

the extent of it can actually be

challenged and actually be stopped

because the thing is even if even if you

Prevail in eliminating all voter fraud

in America guess what these parties are

still corrupt and they're still going to

do Shady you know dirty things that

undermine American democracy so that's

my view agreed wait wait all right

Sparky but until you look at yourself in

the mirror and say who am I really

voting for are they doing what we want

as a whole not just what you want on the

right or what I want on the left we're

not going to get anywhere and as far as

Haas is concerned I hope that he can get

a chance to have his his political

ideology scene do I think it's going to

win fuck no but at least he if he

believes in it he's an American and he

believes it'll help America be a better

country that's what we're all supposed

to want right third parties any party I

don't care I just don't want to see this

bullshit keep happening where we

citizens are fighting each other each

other over a corrupt government that's

just going to tell us to fuck ourselves

which is what's happened this past

election

thank you I don't know if I said this at

the beginning but if we could steer away

from personal attacks that'd be the just

generally just try to keep that in mind

uh let's go to uh

uh I mean the the Frenchy thing it was

that I don't know if it's necessarily

and it's being French isn't bad but uh

it is bad well that is an opinion it is

we all love France uh let's let's go to

that's gonna happen

French people wow you know I did not

come very prepared on the issue of voter

fraud but then again

um it's not very much of interest to me

specifically but I do think

the divisions in America are very real

divisions and my goal is to focus on

creating a United

American politics so that people will

stop fighting each other instead of

focusing on the true uh enemy which is

uh Corporate America and the one percent

we will certainly see uh let's go to

house

that

a question of whether this virus was

man-made should be investigated but I

think both sides have not actually been

paying attention

to the more probable question that

deserves more attention which is

why is there an assumption that

given the fact that in July of 2019

there is a very bizarre shutdown at the

U.S institute

or the investigation sorry The Institute

of infectious diseases

uh there was a rise of so-called

e-cigarette vaping product use lung

injuries there was an early flu season

and furthermore in March of 2019 the

virus was detected in the sewers of

Barcelona in Spain

I just think that uh people aren't

paying enough attention to Fort Detrick

now I agree with Dylan that the Wuhan

specifically the Wuhan lab leak is being

used

uh for a new Cold War against China

that's why we see establishment media uh

Jon Stewart and all these people

peddling this Theory that's why Biden is

starting to ease into peddling this

Theory and I think it's a distraction

from the fact that there's a high

probability or at least uh it's worth

investigating whether this virus

originated from the U.S military

um I don't I'm not really convinced that

it originated in Wuhan I think that it

was just first discovered in Wuhan by

Chinese scientists

cool thank you uh let's go do redneck

hilarious

that are linenist actually has the

research showing 2019. it's called um I

don't know what I forgot what it's

called when you weaponize a virus but

China did this already with coven with

uh covet they did it with covert one so

it's not a stretch to say that they

would do it again a function wait here's

the here's the question though who gains

more from the coronavirus uh crisis is

it China which was already flourishing

beforehand or is it the American liberal

deep State big Corp that's what I think

too I think it's the American uh deep

State and big corporations who had the

most to gain from this virus because

they're the ones who have who feel that

they need to change uh America and

society as extremely as they do whereas

China has been flourishing and China

didn't need this virus

um China handled the virus in its own

way even if I agreed that the case it

doesn't mean that like that's a reason a

motive of that sense no I I agree but I

just wonder why are people not paying

attention to what happened at Fort

Detrick why why has this not been

important yeah foreign

yeah but it just seems like all you'll

be doing is trading one corporate deep

you know corporate slash deep state

right with giving that deep State

complete authoritarian control in order

to achieve a Utopia that quite frankly

is not achievable and this is evidenced

by China's uh their military actions

against Taiwan every year they go out

again but this would be like against

Taiwan right but this would be like if

Florida really wants to do is to be left

alone

we raised the Civil War when the South

seceded we waged the Civil War one at a

time Taiwan has always been part of

China so this would be like if the South

no it hasn't right yes

for many centuries it was part of China

it was it was the British and it was

colonial interventions and then it was

the Chinese even there really wasn't

there was a big political movement that

happened inside of China this Chinese

Civil War you're right but both sides

both sides agreed there's only one China

and taiwan's a part of that China they

just disagreed about who rules that so

that you wouldn't have a problem with

Taiwan being the only legitimate

recognized government of China then

right if they can win the support of the

Chinese people sure but they haven't

majority of the Chinese people are for

uh the People's Republic of China

governments so so your solution then to

the people in Hong Kong would be what

exactly the Chinese government is

accommodating toward the political

wishes of them to govern how they want

but they cannot secede and let there be

allow themselves to be a military base

for foreign countries to be against

China if they want to have their

political system and their policies

China doesn't care as long as you don't

try and secede and say that this is not

part of the Chinese Nation thank you

that certainly sounds like politics I'm

going to say it's also it didn't happen

I'm sorry I'm done with the bullshit

like so so many like yeah but you

already said yes

geek what gives you the fucking moral

authority to go I'm fucking done with

this you guys are all you're crazy okay

I'll tell you what let's listen

hang on hang on I'm gonna ask you one

question okay fuck it all it's natural

it's natural geek it's natural what the

fuck could a government do to fix it

when it happened

tell me one thing that the government

has done in a different fucking spread

no no I go next I'm asking to eat I'm

asking geek all right

I just one question

he has no fucking answer I just answer

because nobody nobody has an answer

if I if I could if I could just back up

something

um sorry your name is red

if I could back up something you said I

think people missed this this is an

important point

so if you're saying trust the scientific

consensus let me ask you a question

there was a time about a hundred years

ago in which the scientific consensus in

America was Eugenics scientific racism

all of that stuff and there were people

who rejected that despite what the

scientists were saying so I don't think

scientists are gods and you have to

listen to whatever their Parenthood no

and you and you have to listen and you

have to listen to whatever they say

without any criticism I think people

should be thinking critically

independently do not block do not

blindly trust uh institutions second of

all this whole thing about how it could

have been handled I actually don't think

it was Trump's fault I think it was just

America in general was even if we had a

liberal President we still would have

seen all of the same problems maybe

Trump made it worse I can concede to

that but ultimately America was not

prepared for this virus the nature of

our society makes it so that we just

cannot coordinate and organize at like

the level of South Korea or these Asian

countries or whatever where we can just

kind of have this social cohesion to be

able to respond to viruses and have you

know harmonious Vodka it's just I don't

I think they're I think politicizing it

was a little bit dumb in my view

then bring him on then bring him on

bring them on

I made a fucking hat waiting so here's

something like

I it's I feel like I did cuckoo banana

pants in here people talking about like

conspiracies and this here's the thing

we talked about oh well it was proven

that uh China released covid1 I believe

you're referring to um the one that

happened in 2003 that over a 14-year

investigation was proven false that it

was from nature it wasn't from China

releasing it like uh maliciously so like

we can just toss that out the fucking

window and second of all like the the

notion that like oh but there's this big

conspiracy and like it's the the

corporate cabal it's it is cuckoo banana

pants and like I I

the fact that everyone here is like uh

Echo chambering being like yes no that's

a very I too have done my research into

this it's like have you have you done

your research because like and then the

whole thing about science where it's

like oh well science used to believe

this science used to believe this yeah

so here's the whole thing about the

scientific method and how we approach it

is that like science comes up with

hypotheses if they then test and they

look for correlations that then would

provide some sort of path forward for

how to treat things and that's why we've

been able to make the advances that we

have which is why scientific consensus

especially when it's based in peer

review studied Eugenics that there's a

reason for that okay listen yeah

thank you okay I can also scream

here you're on the list let me fucking

finish

I don't know it's just a fucking stupid

and you want to ask well how can we

prevent deaths from covid uh want to

know what countries had the lowest death

rate

just focus on the road while I'm doing

this and then you don't have to listen

to me

all right all right let's Maddie wrap it

up yeah okay listen so like I want to

talk about okay well what would be a

good approach to prevent deaths there

are so many examples of other countries

that did a much better job than the

United States of preventing infection

and preventing spread isolating the

virus and then preventing

hospitalizations and deaths countries

like New Zealand like Australia like

Canada like uh Taiwan like South Korea

like Japan like Vietnam there's

literally a fucking examples you mean

third world countries that use

Hydraulics

South Korea Japan and Australia were

third world countries but that's so

fascinating I'll be sure to let them

know in my next time

this is not a question pick one out of

the three

hanging this is me fucking weighing in

my dude so listen like again this is so

fucking stupid I we might as well be

debating the the likelihood that our

president is actually a lizard person

coming in from the center of the earth

to take over and sell the Earth to Mars

so that's what I think and this is so

stupid and I'm

flabbergasted

you still wear a mask I bet I bet you

still wear a mask don't you we will go

to aircraft Sparky who will hopefully

respond to the cuckoo banana pants

argument then to Dylan

we're nearly out of time uh would

everybody be cool just doing closing

statements and putting your final

thoughts in those uh yeah but I have

five points that I'll put in there okay

okay well we'll start with what it has

okay first five first point calling

something crazy is not an argument

second of all uh I don't think anyone's

interested in the scientist chatter

they're not on the panel so their

opinion doesn't matter

um scientific institutions have never

been uncritically accepted by the

brilliant contributors and and

innovators in science if they just

accepted consensus there would have

never been at any actual real progress

in science uh don't act like the uh

consensus model of scientific truth is

God's spoken word because you clearly

know nothing about the philosophy of

science it's a very controversial

Viewpoint it by no means is some kind of

religious truth fourth uh scientists

don't have a monopoly on talking about

the origins of kovid because the

motivations and operational capabilities

of deep State actors Etc is outside the

realm of virology okay so we're not even

talking about viruses and the nature of

viruses we're talking about something

that's outside of the scope of so-called

scientific experts and the notion that

individuals can't criticize

institutional narratives is actually

extremely dangerous it promotes

institutional stagnation and allows

those in power to have zero

accountability in the name of hiding

behind scientific experts we should have

to listen to The Experts right fifth why

were there so many mixed messages about

masks and lockdowns in the beginning

stages of the virus's outbreak by fauci

and those in power they were demonizing

China for wearing masks and having

lockdowns but suddenly America in an

emergency situation had to adopt it

themselves so why should the American

people trust these experts when the

first thing they did was demonize China

for the preventative measures China was

doing and all China's a dystopian

horrible you know orwellian State that's

what the people in power the Liberals

were saying who were against Trump so I

think both sides of the aisle political

aisle deserve blame for how covet was

handled in America and I think talking

about New Zealand and Australia and

wherever else is completely irrelevant

because those are different societies

and also their Islands okay but if that

doesn't matter they're completely

different societies than American

society so politicizing it in the first

place is a complete waste of time that's

my closing statement that's right

science is a liar sometimes it's a bitch

right it's no different than the Always

Sunny skit it's the it's the same

argument no one is arguing that oh

scientists said it therefore just

accepted simply at that point we when I

I thought this was implied with it that

it also came with peer review for

example and for infrared brought up the

fact of well what about Eugenics that

was considered scientific consensus for

a good period of time that is true but

then when the 1935 peer review panel by

the Carnegie Institution and concluded

that the eugenic research office was

basically doing nothing of Merit four

years later it lost all of its funding

after the peer review in the critical

analysis from other great minds in

science that's when Eugenics started to

meet the Wayside Eugenics was proven to

be an irreputable

irreparable side of science that had no

backing and after peer review came out

after they analyzed the facts that's

when Eugenics fell to the Wayside and

foreign

statements so it is what it is why are

you talking do I have to be here are we

done yeah oh you can act like a garbage

if you want but it's closer statement

it's coming well yeah yeah I don't got

to listen to you guys you know when I

can't oh you're right so you just gotta

is just read from an article without

posting the articles

I will debate for more hours I'm willing

to debate more about it so don't call me

a fucking pussy they want to end the

fucking show I'm willing to debate more

you're the one interrupting during

closing statements because he was

fucking addressing my facial expressions

oh I can't make I can't make facial

expressions sorry anyway please continue

Eugenics was shown bitch

fucking bitch

I like the guy in the car