Debating An ANGRY Hatewatcher: Pan-American Incel

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hotel hotel fsy

don't kill him us

he's already dead

what ch

that's it

in china's central

authority of the hoe

this is nineteen twenty seven

like you were saying this is just incredibly ahead of its time and i think

just the ways he presents these issues clearly is just really incredible

m

comrade fox

yeahll look onp

what is

ot of time have like

people don't know if they've got it

it's lord kind of lords they are feudal lords yeah

let's see comrade fox

i think just speaking to what you was saying i

you know if if

i there are no real solutions i

offered to people you know they're going to

they're going to be upset about genuine issues in their lives right

but they're going to find alternative reasonings and rationales for it you know

and so i think it's important you know

for us to really

reach out to working class people

um

just like what maos basically telling communists in china to do

you know at this time i think the communist party had really had a working class people like photographers

be

vanguard of the working class ladies and gentlemen tonight

it's going to be quite this show

going to be quite the show

i just want to remind everybody tonight

ah it's going to get ugly

it is going to get ugly tonight

and i'm going to explain to you why

you see it's one thing to just disagree with people on the internet

one thing to disagree with them right

it's just some people rit they just kin't of

are about a little line

in the sand

right themselves all by themselves they make the line

right

and then

for some

very

enigmatic and inexplicable reason

they decide to themselves cross

that's very line

what choice does that leave me

as

i going too far ladies and gentlemen

i i going too far

would that make me the head shaft

of this kitchen

or it made me a photographer

taking pictures

of my own reflection

has

i just don't understand it there's one thing i just dont

and

put my finger on

right

one thing i can't put finger on

is

why do people hit that red button

and do the absolute worst thing they could possibly do to cross all lines

when they're not invincible

when they're accessible when

it's very easy for has

to find out who they are

i don't know why they would do that

why would you

play all of your cards

i mean all of them

to the point where

she has nothing to do with it

when he starts talking about samia why would you do that

why on earth would you do that

when you're not invincible

when you are someone

i mean look if you're a little bunny

you're a fat little bunny

why wouldard you taunt a wolf

found you have nowhere to hide

why would you taunt a wolf in the forest

when you have absolutely fucking nowhere to hide

well

i don't know if i'm goninga be the head chef

tonight

i don't know if i'm goinga be the head chef tonight

but i know the meal that i'm eating tonight is not going to be vegan

one way or another

ok

whether this puss wants to bitch out or not good nck a morning revolution

go for a good morning revolution

whether he wants to bitch out or not

it's going to be immaterial because we're eating tonight

ladies and gentlemen we are eating

we are eating

this is gonna be great

this is going to be beautiul

so

you of

beautiful

ok so

first off i want to give some this context to why am i debating this guy

a pan american commentary by the way

i'm thinking of

of names that i like

there's some names that i like you know

you guys never visited the drisko

in austin texas it's a nice beautiful building

called the driscol

' in austin texas

in austin texas

my second favorite place in addition to the driscol

it's a beach

and it's in california

and the beach is called laguna

my favorit's beach

i like

those two places

they wy a lottem for some reason

tonight i've been thinking about

a great deal i've been thinking about those two places

great deal

ight i just

i like that place in austin texas i really do

such a nice building so historical

iven stream there in austin

you guys remember that stream i sad which i tried to eat there and ity would serve me food

portray all of you at infrareds psychos that blow up at anything and yet simultaneously think they can attack you all and you won't respond to their provocationslo we're going to get to that box

don't worry

but we're talking about this driskoll right

i streamed there last time i was in aostin

and i think you gouys remember i was trying to eat there they wouldn't serve us

and i was there before as well when i was in the

younger right when i

at

graduated high school i went to the driskills

austin texas and

not a lot of people know this because most people just go there too you know

eat at the restaurant

but if you take the elevator to the highest floor

ah there's a part of the drischool not a lot of people go to right

and you know it's kind of just this antiquated attict

of sorts that just seems to be for whatever reason accessible to the whole public

anyone can walk into that attic

however they want right

so the question is

is it a secret

is walking into the attic of that building a secret that does the old

at becae it is out in the open all you have to do really to access

that attic and kind of just

get out your flashlight and shine your light

top floor of that building

all you really have to do

ha's put some effort in

and if you know what you're looking for all of a sudden it becomes a modern rod very easily accessible thank you so much amerielppreciate you so much

comomes very very easily accessible

i think that's interesting isn't it

think it's interesting it's a

it's a it's a

very interesting building with a lot of

open secrets

open secrets

very interesting place

very interes

so who is pan american insul and i

you know we have a lot of other stuff lined up today so if they don't show

we're eating either way right

going to be fine

i know about the jackson news and i'm going to be covering that

so don't you worry about bace

jackson hankel is now banned for fourteen days by youtube

now one strike from permanent banning

we are being silenced

guerrillas support our boy jackson and he's the most paperwin yeat jackson is actually having to resort to some pretty

have decisions right now

including deleting ollz videos

um because they're just digging shit from like very

i

thanks

and

they want tom censored we'll get to that right but for now

we have a debate to attend to tonight

so who is this person

right

well

i guess we'll i'll just take it from the top

and i'll present it to you

as i see it

ok

so here it is

this is pan american insl

we are going to get quite acquainted with

the night

mm

that was the one that was the big mistake

ah this is a lot

this is a lot

it is a lot

this is a lot all right here it is

so pan american randomly decided to tweet at me

and they said has wouldn't start his stdream tonight

until enough people clicked light

be pretty transparent what these folks are about

i've been silent for so long because i viewed these folks as allies and i was wrong

they are simply grifters

everything i disliked about maois has been embodied by them the group think

the deranged insults when you defy said group think

the begging for money and likees

this is what nihilistic grifters do

you want to make a difference stop trying to infiltrate c pusa

and join an organization that doesn't suck ss

don't make yourself and your live stream your ego don't be a silly liberal dedicate to something more

a youtube channel is' a party

now i thought

they they really thought that they were going to get like a ton of likes with this pandering to the left

and sadly you know they got pretty brutally ratioed

by me actually

and pretty much a bunch of other people but

where' is mine

think mine was an additional

where is my reply

what happened here it is right

yeah so they got ratioed it's pretty sad

so he actually did this be cause he had he had an argument with henry and henry kind of called him some names

so he like decided to go public and denounce me because i asked my stream for by the way like the stream right bucket now

like the funcking dream right now

right

so back and forth

you know

obviously our community responded negatively to this

and for those that want to say that we're policing people

just as much as he has the right

you publicly denounce me

we have the right

you clown on his bitch ass and the replies that's all right

we have that right

he wants to denounce me ok

well we can we can respond to his criticisms

and it looks like his criticisms are pretty fucking stupid i'm a

you tube were who's

not starting my stream until enough people click like and that's some kind of crime

that somehow incriminates me in some kind of way i mean

that's like fucking stupid right but it is your opinion and we'll share our opinion and then we'll be done with it that's it right

if only it ended there ok

so he said something that was just pretty sore he's like

god is dead

so i just quote tweeted it with this picture

now that's all i did right

uh because this does it it it does and by the way he

oh he kind of does look like this right

a but he especially looks like this when he says this and it's just like a an accurate wolljack for saying that right

and he just started talking shit

said oh i'm i'm not a weird anti pagan i quoted marx denouncing paganism

i'm saying is marks a weird antie pagan

any response to that

and he's saying marx totally supported the so we were debating

and then i said

and i was just mocking him and i like yeah me and marx are the reason why the salem witch trials happen

he was talking about how how

i was like joking about the salem witch trials and he's like

oh the crossed the line man soza ya it's my fault that it happened yad yada he responds

calls me a liberal snark

and i said you're so brave for coming forward to denounce me dude

this is world changing right i'm keeping it pretty tame so far aren't i

you know i'm pretty keeping it pretty tame

he says it's obvious you're very mad

i'm honestly shocked

and he's getting really upset right now because he's getting ratioed so hard and there's no other reason he's just getting ratioed really hard and he's getting upset

so i said oky m

i mocked his like coming out and i'm like you are i'm a pad sock but i like the toxic cause guy meanwhile like

i'm the only thing who made the patsok cringe

alpable palatable to like people otherwise it's

this cringy fucking profile picture like

the american flag is going to be the flag of a

an american fucking federation what a stupid idea right

so

this little boy

he's starting to slip up

at this point

ooh this is um

ikes

this he got a little too emotional

over those ratios

and our friends here

b you guys think of the name carlos

pretty common name isn't it

i like that name

and we are friend here

he uh

he decided to do that thing where a cross the line

right

well it's not really the twitter thing anymore you kind of just crossed into the territory

doing that little thing where you cross the line and

you force my hand right

so

as it were

to take a snapshot of this moment as wres as its i is i one were a photographer

taking a snapshot

of this moment but a failed photographer nonetheless so as a failed photographer like

you'd have to go work is like the head chef of some restaurant or something right because the photography career is not working out

think of that analogy i'm just bringing that up as an analogy right

but on

he responded to this tweet where i basically mocked his denunciation of me

keep in mind he's the one who attacked me first

i was keeping it pretty tame

up until the following point

a this is how he decided to respond

i think he made a mistake i don't know

well see i think he made a mistake right

i think this was a mistake i think

i think it was a mistake to say this i think it was a mistake

you make his tweet

guys think i think it was a mistake

i think i don't know if you really maybe he was just emotional

and he did not exactly calculate

the consequences and repercussions of his actions

only

it's just kind of not a very smart thing to do

when

it's not a very smart thing to do when you're not as safe as you think you are you're not as

secure as you think you are so

i hope you envision all of the possible consequences that are going to stem

brom

saying something like this in response to

be responding to your initial attack on me

i hope you're prepared for the consequences of that

right

because

you know if you make enemy if you make an enemy of a guy like me

and you're as easily accessible as you are i mean

you are a very easily accessible ingredient

riight for the meal that i plan on cooking up for you

you knowll they say revenge is the dish best sold

best served cold

i mean

at the very least it's going to be very easy for me to cook up

ah

some dinner right

based on ingredients that are very much within my reach

so i just i don't know i just think it was a mistake i think it was a mistake

i'll let you guys decide if this was a mistake or not

so

i'm still keeping it cool i'm saying great optics tow eat you know i'm sure you'll make it

reight as a streamer

so yada yada yada right he responds

and he talks about running a kitchen

uh running a kitchen i presume he's the head chef

of said kitchen

right as a matter of fact

good morning revolution

thank you so much guys what do you think should i get a thirty five millimeter or one hundred twenty millimeter film

for my stream camera what do you think i should get

thirty five millimeters one hundred twenty millimeters

but i

ya i mean

let's just say

you know

it is a guy named harry

who made some hot sandwiches

was to be debating me tonight

you know i think his

his hands would probably be pretty cold right

and you know

the party

that the chefs are going to be

attending

better have enough cooking equipment

right

you know in order for them to be able to practice their skills

so

he says that they run a kitchen

and i

they that makes them working class

right

in contrast i'm a streamer i'm just actually someone who's

like dedicating my entire life

to

what i believe in

and this guy is trying to

have a career

in something that they fail at and that they're

horrible at so they have to so they're complaining about their working class credentials

having to work

at a kitchen

ok

m

so

yeah i think it's pretty

clear

that

there're some mistakes mae

so

they so yada yadaya back and forth

all right and he's talking about like some past debate i had with someone else which i

one

but i didn't upload to you tube because

i uploaded like a quarter of my debates from

which thank you so much e j because the debates cost me money to upload because i had an editor that i hired

so they're not dodging toby and i said will you debate me

they said

let's debate your strategy of c pus twenty thirty six

i work six days of a week and have one day's off

and i said ok see you next monday

but they did not give me any confirmation except see you next tuesday

well it's tuesday now today's tuesday

so i presume

that they're going to be debating me today

and tonight

this is despite the fact that afterwards they kept saying that they will not debate unless they have a moderator

that they can judges neutral

i asked them to choose a moderator they said they'll produce a list

actually i can get all the receipts they said they will produce a list

an am commontern

they said they're going to produce a list

of moderators

and they never did that

so here it is

i kept suggesting them a bunch of moderators which they rejected

i suggest a so called impartial person if you are the one who needs one

last night checked you weren't ino the idea

i'll come up with a list by tomorrow it's up to you after that

well

they never came up with their so called list

so i just assume they're going forward with tonight's debate

and that's going to be us

us will easily destroy pan american in el fraud the guerrilla and sun will prevail

gorilla

son

gorilla

son

gorilla thank you so much ucill you son

but he's so much irish american used to be mutual followers with him on his old account

such a schain when a n se becomes a backstep yeah i mean they're not a very principled person it's not really principled to attack me in the first place given the cards that are stacked against me

i just think it's especially stupid

be cross

red lines that you cannot walk back from

i just think that's really stupid

right i mean if you're going to like give me an excuse to do something without any remorse

do'll fuck you over

yeah i don't know what to tell you that just doesn't seem very smart to me it doesn't seem very intelligent to me

n anyway

this guy

decided to brag

this guy decided to brag

and say that he actually stole my doctorate

stole my doctorate

i don't know why they were saying this because we didn't debate yet right

now apparently they're saying where were you yesterday and he's saying little bro

is this guy little to you

me i don't know he posted this on his own twitter

the vote

in its northern districtan i think this guy is probably you know

i think he's a little too big actually

it's a little too big

he's from he did a lot of them

i mean yeah

is all on dust james's youtube channel

which he posted on his own twitter

a

longerlays

so

my experience on soy this is the guy ok so i want you to look at this and i want you to just imagine it

him saying this in his voice he says

little bro so imagine him saying this in his voice ready

better is the same you know

lot of people were if you say

hey you know we should maybe be ord mean and ising working class people in the south and in the united states in the imperial court the this is the person saying little girl

this is the person

trying to sound masculine on twitter

this is that

so i don't know i mean i just i don't really think that's

very

right

so yeah

ah

so anyway let's see

so

next monday if you can put your big boy pants on and wake up before noon so you see how they basically dictate all these conditions

knowing that like

they don't think i'm going to fulfill the conditions like now they need to they needed a moderator before

now apparently they need me to

they need me to debate at a time of their convenience which is before noon

keep in mind this person claims to have the entire day of monday off

but apparently it has to be before noon why are they saying it has to be before noon

everyone knows i don't wake up

you know until after like two pm right to have a fox sleep schedule

so we're waiting for them for tonight's debate which is what the actual debate that they agreed with

you know they agreed to have we're waiting for them

we are waiting for them

confirm

be debate

that they agreed to

so let's you know let's kind of i think we should remind them what do you guys think

let's remind them

of the debate they have scheduled tonight because something tells me that if they have the time to tweet and talk all this shit

they could just get in my bv c and settle this debate

right now something tells me they can just debate right now

if they can spend so much time on twitter talking shit and don't be shy don't be shy little boy

right don't be shy little bro because

we happen to actually you know you don't really have anything to hide

at all so please don't be shy i don't know what you could possibly have to lose at this point do not be shy i mean dust james has your back

right here

right

so do not be shy little boy

do not be chaging for

make the motion don't be shy

and just are just hopelessly

don't be shy i mean what are you shyy for

you got to put your make up on

what are you shy for did you did you think you you think tonight i was just going to come on and talk shit

you saiding tonight i wasn't going to actually do anything

what did you think was going to happen

what like

go in through your head in your head before you type those tweets

what did you think was going to happen that's my question like what did you think i was going to do what did what did you think

what like did you think i was going to be like oh you know what

i'll be a good comrade

did you think that there wasn't going to be any consequences to that you fucking pussy you little bit you fat fucking greasy fuck

you fat greasy bitch

you fat greasy soy pussy low testosterone bitch

you fuckin pussy can't even get in a fuckin v c to debate

you fucking pussy

did you think i wasn't going to fuck and do anything

are you fucking bitch

you fuck and pussy

so get in my v c let's have his debate that you wanted to have

go ahead let's have his debate

that you wanted to have

let's have his debate

yow he's watching my stream and he's on twitter

so all you would have to do is just get in my v c to prove their manhood

but it doesn't seem like they're going to at this point right

guys mods want you spend this in the chat right now

i think we should remind this person of their obligation to debate me i think we should remind them right

see i am a i'm a virtuous man

um mister um

but we all know we both know who you are right

so i am unfortunately bound you know by convention and to some extent but you know there's a lot of psychos out there who don't give a fuck right there's a lot of people out there

they might just

do things that i'm not allowed to write

so

i don't know

you know it's just it's just i don't i think was a really big fuck up

it was a really big fuck up you fat greasy pussy to not fuck and come here and debate me

the very least

just to defend your own manhood and your own buck and a hunter

you little bach

here we are

ready to debate

so where are you

where are you you fuckin pussy you fat bitch you greasy fat pussy

where the fuck are you

where are you pussy

we're waiting

we're waiting for you

i mean i don't know what the excusees you se this is the only confirmation i got for any debate

was see you next tuesday you didn't say you're going to debate me monday

you never confirmed anything

you didn't message me that you wanted to debate

the only confirmation i got from you is that you wanted to debate tuesday

so here i am let's debate

the only confirmation i got from you

whatsoever

the only confirmation

so let's go ahead and remind them

of their obligations to debate

as a matter of fact if you want to you know

ah let's actually

let's actually start a hashtag movement right should we do that

you guys want to start a hashtag movement

i have to think of a good one

i have to think of a good one

by the way this is the most cute thing

this is very cute

oh my god

here the cope is unreal

the cope i mean

didn't i mean look

you got kicked out of the pc usa

your comrades aren't your comrades the

people you think are your allies or not your allies

sir

you don't have the friends you think you do

sir

sir

you just don't

there's a lot of people who

know you

in so

was see

so this guy's bucking scared is as a

as a mother fucker scared shitless

and you know we're waiting for them to just get in and debate

we're waiting for them

we're waiting for them

by the way i'm always

one to double check

i'm a double checker

i

i always make sure sh is beyond the threshold of solid

before i do anything i i'm a guy who double checks i'm a guy who triple checks

right

so i mean

if need be

that you know

by some happenstance

it becomes necessary

that that's proven it may just happen

that gets proven

bye

so

i'm a double checker

i'm a double check we're waiting for them

we're waiting for them to just come on stream in debate they're watching right now so don't worry about me messaging them they're watching right now

this high pitched low testosterone beitch made

dinoco masty a fat greasy bitch

um you know

larps is a working class

zero

and a working class representative when in reality they're a failed professional managerial

the bitter

thata bitch

who works in close proximity to the thing they value most in life which is food

right and then they' go on twitter and bitterly complain about how

i actually have to work unlike ps and jackson

' the i should be the real leader because i suffer more

never mind the fact that i don't put in i putt it forward any original ideas or any unique insight that helps motivate actual workers in real life

i don't know once on the chad if you have a real job once in the chad if you have a real job

let's do it test

once in a chat if you have a real job

a real

right

guy in the show que the meets yeah i will do that okay somost everyone

pretty much everyone

ok now

that's another one

fives in the chat

if

i

as a streamer

have inspired you as a working class person

more in terms of motivation

in terms of bringing you positive energy

then the pan american fat greasy in cell loser

if you if you choose the fat greasy loser you can press six if you choose me you can press five

y i think that just about settles it

think that just about settles it

um

so cute

so cute

by the way do you guys ever

you guys ever kind of get a little spooked in just like private your facebook

w you notice something's off

that never happened to you

kind of spooky isn't it

sometimes it's kind of get spook like

who could be watching me like

a my photos public who could be watching me right now and then you just go i have to private it

and it's kind of just a silly thing to do because it's like

pretty much confirming

who you are

like when you do that right

i i just found itr always loo a reckless

and of thing to do right

as a person who w

specializes in this kind of thing i just

i whenever they do that i'm just kind of like

why would you do that

would you do that

bight

i always found it to be a silly silly thing to do

that's the

that's the truth and anyoneo wants to claim

don't get him over what

what am i doing i'm not doing anything

talking about social media thank you so much for rech appreciating

tike that five

everything i'm saying they've said themselves they said they worked at a kitchen so that's all i'm saying they worked at a kitchen

they also posted a video

on their own twitter before

but when they went on dust jamess you tube show this is what they posted on their own twitter ok

so i mean

why would i this this

this was posted on their literal twitter

ok

they'ir onw twitter

that's where i got the thumbnail from

so

what i don't really see what the prolemise

if

only fuck to reeshi thank you so much ma'am for that honor appreciate you

appreciate you

holy fort

thank you so much to rehi appreciate you so much madam

appreciate you so much

well now we're just waiting on him to come in and debate we're just waiting

for them to come to bate

and you know i've i've

pretty much kept it ame and

you know

i just think it's really silly to just kind of cross the line and go too far when you're not a god

when you're a mortal man

is very much within the reach of

very nasty

brutal man

right

just find it really

really silly and mistaken to cross the red lines

i really find it silly to start crossing red lines and doing things like that i mean because like look to be honest if you were totally

you know invincible and you were a god and you did some shit like that i mean

what could i do nothing right

but i just have to ignore it and maybe you know

move on

but

it's just kind of you know it's kind of like a

that little bunny

you're a wolf

i

imagine if you were a wolf in the forest

in this

thata

that

flump bunny

keeps kind of teasing you and just

mean what would you do what could you do right

it's not really your fault

could have just hiit in a little

mm

but to run up in charge at the wolf

what did you think was going to happen

what did you expect the outcome of that to be

you ran up and charge the wolf in youre a fat plump

funny

little rabbit

right

i think there are consequences

to all actions i think all actions have conseuence

yeah i'm going to debate the guy in the showcq

because this pussy i don't know we're going to give im like five more minutes to show up

we're going to give this pussy a few more minutes to show up

going to give m like five more minutes to show up if they don't show up

and we're just going to debate the person that is currently in the show que

because that person also wanted to debate

so this is the latest thing that the fat greasy bitch just said

the fat greasy fuck and gerbile hamster bitch just fucking said

this is what he said

why would i join a stream where someone just learning a lot great content sent me love the passion love the rath

thank you so much alex

i would i join a stream where someone just spent thirty minutes trying to dox

what are you talking about

little boy or i should say

fat boy

guys there's also some other context i'm not gonna really give a lot of attention to

but needless to say

this person tried to share

malicious

and false

this is really private information about a friend of mine

this person has tried to dox people

plenty of times

actually this person has docs people many of times actually

so for them to talk about doxing

it is just the epitome of irony

they literally went on twitter

and started

trying to share very private details about someone

worse wrong right

but they tried to share also a lot of stuff about identities and all this kind of shit

which if they didn't already cross the red line that crossed the red line of the red line

ok

and

all ive shown

is what's public i've shown

what you

post it on your twitter in dus james channel

and you yourself said that you were a head chef and everything else is just tangentic

tangential right

like when i talk about photographers

right

that's all tangent that's just kind of you know me talking about unrelated things right

which is my right is my first amendment right right

also

not the thing right it's just

kind of

a little bit awkward

to bring this up

but

the other stuff

ah

you're not going to know

i mean i don't know what other stuff means right but like

potentially if there was other stock

i don't really think it would be on you tube

bad

you know

do it

our lay with

besides

i

that kind of stuff

but thearman island

there you go right

not

all we have to say is that

there are always going for every action there is an opposite and equal reaction

for every action there is an opposite and equal reaction

doing stupid and reckless things like this

's not particularly wise

um it's just not

period

just not wise it's not a wise thing to do

so fat pussy you can just get in the v c

make fun of me

from the very get go in addition to smearing me as a grifter which is fine i guess right

what did you do you insulted me

right

call me a bitch

call me a pussy

um

you for

for whatever reason

you tried to insult my appearance

the dinner part

three

in the insit

you tried to insult in my appearance while looking like this

i just i don't know why you would do that

when this is what you look like

m

yeah that i jus i don't know i don't know

i don't know what leg do you have to stand on to complain about being made fun of you fat greasy bitch

you fucking low testosterone pussy

you little bits

the fuck leg do you have to stand on

to complain about being made fun of

if has was a man and not a coward he would agree to a fair debate there is no fair debate

you're getting cooked that's just a fact you will lose a debate with me

objectively because you are

you are objectively a more stupid person you are objectively a fucking dipshit i would roll you in any debate

the only way you have to disprove that is just debate me

and if it's true that i just mute you or whatever and scream at you

then you can go you can cope that way on twitter you can say look you didn't give me a chance because all it's you know you that would be it's all going to be public you fucking pussy so prove what you're worth

and and get in v c and answer for your your little antics now maybe you were on drugs and you want to atone for your sins

you should have atoned before you thought about crossing those red lines

you should have really atoned

before

you cross those red lines

you really should have atone before then

actions have consequences

actions have consequences

i think i'm a just man what do you guys think i think i'm a just man

i think

when someone

decides to attack me on twitter

you know as long as it's not too personal

a i can let that slide and keep it on twitter

in the sense i'll just i'll just rathiow your bit chass or something i'll just keep it on twitter

but when you start bringing

samira into it

saying the things that you said and by the way this is not the half of it by the way i'm just unfortunately there's just

consequences

every action has a consequence

that's just

i'm sorry

i don't know what to tell you right

if you for example slipped on a banana peel in your kitchen

and fell on the ground

are you going to blame the banana peel

no you were reckless

you slipped and fell

actions have consequences

i think that's what you did

last week

think you made a little mistake

i think i think you made a little mistake

i think i'm a just man

right

i think this is justified

ladies and gentlemen i

are they going to show up

they are now claiming they're not going to show up

it seems very sad

seems very sad indeed

seems very pathetic

i think we've just opened up a new chapter

in the history of pan american and so i think we just opened up a new chapter

in their history i just don't think they're going to fare very well on the internet

after tonight

i don't really think they are

i really don't think they are i really don't think it's gonna

work out very well

oh yickes yea it looks like bad empanada is in his replies

look when the right when the wrong people get

wind of your actions i mean i can't i hate badmp and auto right but

apparently he hates you as well

so you know

when you make enemies of people like me a just how many other enemies do you have right

i don't know

i don't know it's kind of just a really silly thing to do

but yeah looks like that bad empanata guy

is also

in his replies

by the way his shirt is separate from mine

and i

i'm an independent investigator

but apparently the

mr george

a it was doing some parallel

there are well activities right

what a sad pussy what an absolute fuck and pussy

but a sad absolute

ial can proceeat

ladies and gentlemen

so this is notw what they're saying they're saying

he didn't show up on monday not once did you give me a confirmation that you wanted to debate monday

moreover you never said something like

oh yeah i'm going to stipulate this extraordinary

stipulation that it has to be before twelve noon

when is the last time i dreamed before noon

it's has to have been like a year right

so

i mean if that was a condition you should have at least mentioned it how was i supposed to fuck you know that right

but then again you had no intention of debaate debating me

because you added the condition that you needed a moderator

well you never produced a moderator you never even got back to me

about needing a moderator

so he's lying

he's absolutely fucking lying he had no intention of debating me yesterday

h i he didn't tweet anything about debating me yesterday

he didn't message me about debating yesterday he never confirmed any debate

never came up with his list of moderators that he needed i didn't even want a moderator

he insisted on one

im nothing

absolutely nothing

and yeat he's crying on twitter

and he he spent an hour on twitter

do gys

for one hour he's been on twitter tweeting about this

in that hour he could have debated me

he could have debated me in the hour

that he spent on twitter

i think you guys should actually just

respond to him with that like you spent an hour on twitter tonight when you could have just debated him

within that hour right i mean it just doesn't really make any sense

yesterday i waited around all day

ah

to debate

no you didn't because you didn't say anything about a debate yesterday you only confirmed the debate for tuesday

you confirm the debate for tuesday

we did agree to debate on monday

we did not agree to debate on monday because when i said see you next monday

you did not confirm

all you told me was that you had mondays off what does that supposed to fucking mean to me

um does that mean you needed that monday to prepare

does that mean you had another monday in mind i can't know

the only thing you confirm for me

was that you are going to see me next tuesday

and now he's saying he was just meming

well

in addition to a mem you could have at least given some confirmation

which you didn't

right

so yeah this is the my dog ate my homework excuse

this is the my dog ate my homework excuse

yeah like i have

i have never seen a morar

massive pussy

what an absolute pussy

he didn't

show up

and made a my dog ate

iy homework

excuse

and decided

he was spending

his night

reading instead of debating

enough

despite the fact that they only

only confirmation

this pussy gave

or debate

was

be on tuesday

then

and then let's add some molalges for a dramatic effect

a four

i think this guy' is a pussy i think he is a genuine absolute pussy

like he's the only terms and conditions he's given me for a debate

have been

a been things that he knows would like deliberately inconvenience me

like yeah it has to be before twelve noon yeah i've never streamed before noon

for a year rights never happened that would be such an exceptional circumstance

and he also wanted a moderator

and then when i agreed to his terms and conditions of needing a moderator

he rejected every single one of my proposals for a moderator

without giving any of his own

without giving any of his own he didn't give me any of the people he wanted to be moderators none

none at all

and he b okay i think i think that's done he officially bitch oup he officially

um forfeited

so pan american commenturn has officially forfeited

the debate

he has officially forfeited

debating me

that's that

they are not going to debate

this is their excuse

i am too tired

and they're doing that thing where they're bragging about their fail

failed career

i'm quite simply too tired after work to do anything

i work double not that any of you have jobs and understand what that's like

you know

you know this person is not working class when they're like

trying to brag about how much they have to work as the

head of their kitchen

the only reason you have to work as the head of your kitchen is because you're a shitty photographer if you were a good photographer

you wouldn't have to work doubles tomorrow you could just

make a living off of being a photographer

you made your life's passion

being a photographer

you failed that your career

and now you're bitching that you have a proletarian job

as the head chef

your proletarian job is being the fucking head chef of your kitchen

which you only have by the way because you were a failed fuck and photographer probably because you're an uncreative

back greasy fog

why you think you're better than other workers right other working class people they just do that as their job

and they don't ever like have another expectation

you

you are the you are the epitome of

left is bitterness right

you larps a working class proletarian

because you failed at your career

as a professional

you're a failed professional

so you're downwardly mobile as a bitter bitch

bitter sour faced

fat greasy bitch

and you larp as a working class person

working class people have pride

in their jobs they don't complain about them

like like as if like oh i i like look

if you want to complain about your job you shouldn't talk shit on twitter at me ok you shouldn't de you shouldn't like

you know agree to debate me and not show up and shout go fucking i don't care if you work in a fucking sweatshop you fat bitch why is that my fucking problem it's not my fucking problem what you do

for a fucking living you fat fucking loser bitch

i don't give a fuck if you have to work in minds you fucking bitch you fat bit you greasy fucking bitch

the fuck does it have to do with me

nothing

you came at me

remember you cross lines coming at me

bat little boy

you came at me i don't give a fuck what you do

for your fuckin job especially not when the only reason you do that fuckin job is because you've failed at your fuckin real career aspirations of being a photographer you're fuckin failed professional

failed artist who now larpss a proletarian and a working class person

because you're fucking bitter that you don't have the skills or creativity or abilities to do what you wanted to do i'm good at what i fuck and do it

i'm good at what i fuck and do

that's why i do what i like doing because i'm good at it

you're a failed fuckin professional

who fuck and flunked out of photography

so this is what you do and now you bitch about it on twitter like we're supposed to feel bad for you or give a fuck about your job nobody gives a fuck about your job you fat greasy pussy

you fucking bitch the fuck does it have to do with me by the way

in this doggat dog fuckin world the fuck does that have to do with me

do you think working class people go on fucking twitter and just bitch and whine

about their working class jobs no they fuck and don't because they know it's a dog eat dog world

and that's no one else's problem

that is no one else's problem

you fuckin fat bitch you greasy fat bitch

going on twitter trying to fuck in virtue signal that you're a head chef like anyone gives a fuck

i'm the head sherff

does anyone give a fuck

does anyone give a fuck

m i'm a a cook pizza

i'm going to go to the pizza

nobody geves for

you guys care

thank you so someone tell me what's relevant about this

what is relevant

what relevancy does this have

i got to bech i got to cook in a pasta tomorrow i got to the bech i'm going to cook in a potza nobody gives a fu

what does it have to do with anything you talk all the shit

and you're making

excuses that you're tired you fucking fat greasy pussy if you were tired you shouldn't have came at me with all that energy you bat bitch you should have came at me with all that fucking energy if you were so tired you fat greasy bitch

you ever think of that

no i tonk me a pizza

bough a cook a and bosterl

the fuck does that have to do with me

that has nothing to do with me

t your pamplants you make a living based on streaming

i make a living based on streaming

because a majority working class audience

and even if it wasn't it wouldn't even fuck and matter i just have an audience that wants me to do this

my audience supports me

because they want me to do this every day

and they want me to keep doing it

if

i didn't have that audience i wouldn't be doing this shit

if i did not have an audience of people

see when people

give me money

you fat greasy bitch maybe this is something you've never understood

becuse you've your failed career you're a failed careerist like every one else

this is something you don't really understand

when people give me money they're basically saying hey has keep doing this

keep doing the shit

cas keep doing it

don't give up keep doing it i want to see more of this

i want to see you rise

i want to see you destroy my enemies

i want to see you keep spreading this message i believe in this message keep doing it

keep doing it

that's what they're doing that's what every dollar that someone gives me means

it means keep doing this

because you're doing something we appreciate and we want you to keep doing it

o

that is the only reason i even get a penny

from this community

you bitter greasy pussy

that is in contrast to you modern ro apparently jennifer thank you so much

that membership that is in contrast to you

who can't so much as inspire anyone

who support their photography career nobody wants you to take pictures of them nobody wants you to record them and and do filmography for them or any of that shit

nobody appreciates what you do nobody wants to reward you

for what you do

if you were talented at the thing you're actually passionate about

there would be a demand for what you do there isn't

so now you go on twitter and bitterly bitch and complain

about being a head chef

ands if that's relevant at all it has nothing to do with anything

you fat greasy pussy

you fat greasy bitch

this is so funny

this is so cute to modern revolution thank you so much tristan

guys i want to i want you to focus your attention on the just hilarious irony of this

pick us out

um

they say this and this and they're accusing me of trying to dox them

what is this

buddy what is this

what is this exactly ha

it disabled the super shots no fucking shot di they actually

probably gota

think about that

ooh yikes

ykes

ykes ykes that's sad they must be panicking really hard

se must be panicking really really hard

apparently super chats are disabled

oh no

only gifted will war

ah

that is so yoky

that is so likey

i is so sad

too bad it's irreversible too bad this is what i just did is irreversible right

too bad it's just fucking irreversible

i think that's sad

th it's sad

well i mean we don't really want anyone who's under eighteen anyway and miriel thank you so much for the fifty preciate you man

appreciate you so much

and guys look at this and look at this and they're com trying to complain about this even though all i'm doing

is just

all i did was show a video that you yourself tweeted and link

you yourself

link that video to your account

it you know that's not my fault that you to if you regret doing that

that's like saying hey guys i regret showing my face on the internet

so anyone who shows my face ever again is docing me

no there are consequences to your actions

you share that on your own profile

so i get to use it for my thumb nail right

that's what you shared on your own profile

i think that's pretty fair

right

and i think i've been pretty tame

we're goninga bring this guy up in debate right now

so where are they

this person was getting impatient this other person wanted to debate me

so we're just going to bring them up and debate them right now

again you guys it was like the nnight

that made it whatever

who was that

i don't know

who knows

who knows

well that other person i think left

where are they

we're going to debate this other person

it even sok you nop

ok so refresh my memory who are you and what do you want to debate about

um

i run a small youtube channel i drive truck for a living

i don't know fuck would you do for a living

where you're going to have your pan ams from

no actually you had openly challenged meanyone to debate you

and i would like to discuss with you the fact that we seriously do not have time

for horsing around right now

i've been told by lultipal people that you are very well educated on marxism

i will assume that if you've been doing this as long as i have you are aware of the stats i'm aware of

and understand that we have at most

fifteen

maybe twenty years before the complete and total collapse of the capitoal system in the united states

and so if nothing else at least the perhaps i' debate

but like i would like a serious answer from you why you think

we can be messing around with trolling and joking

when we have absolutely massive issues

that have to be answered and answered almost on of what of one of our biggest issues is that people don't

have

just

a good sense of humor right now what if that's a big issue

i'm pretty sure

a hundred and fifty million people starving to death

it's slightly bigger than that

allright what are you going to do about that

or what should i do about that

we need to come up with a way

to get thoogd

from idaho

to new york city

you want me to like bring my truck and stuff

well i drive a truck i already said that so this is something i'm aware of

well in't my truck's not very big

um so should i like rent you hall

see this is exactly what i'm talking about what do you thought i'm just'm that you were doing solution solution solution solution so s

n ninety nine hunyred ninety five you halls i were going to do

no we need to come up with this a coateed system right now

the pumps at the truck stops do not function

if there is not a credit account

on the other end of the transaction

so sir what should i do about it

we need to have physically

in hand

ready to go day number one

a computer program

to put into the pumps

to make them work

we need that nw is that legal can you discuss that onstream

there's nothing stopping us as long as we don't publish it

only of the sm is being published first of all also i'm not a programmer so i don't know what you really want me to do

with that

this is not specific to you

ok you understand you have a platform

that is double the size lenon ever has

yes

ok so you want me to tell my audience to do what

we need to have

in hand ready to go day number one

solutions the problems that a transition

from capitalism to socialism

in twenty first century america will fix yeah the problems with only like five of us right now

i'm pretty sure there's more people in this discoy than that right now

even if there's a hundred thousand it's still not enough

thank

absolutely it is absolutely round thank you so much michael appreciate you

it's really not

how is it not explain to me your because the three hundred million people in this country that's why

yes ah

three to four hundred million people in this country

that's wonderful

but we are i dispersed across the whole country

our manpower means nothing

i i don't nm a hundre thousand people i don't have one hundred thousand people

i have i have maybe

i would be generous three hundred on the low end to a thousand at the high end

people who will do things i arell listening to what i say

o so you want these people to do what

those of them who are coders code

those of them who are not coders

study the issues find something that is relevant

and prepaed to do something about it

can you be more specific sir

no i can't i'm not omnipotent or ommission i can list a handful of things i'm not omnipotent or omnission either

yes but together we may assess data and come together when i'm going to do shits or we're not doing shit together

i'm not a mission you're not a mission we're talking right now we're together right now what can we do combining our heads

come up with solutions the problems that is going to no right now what's the solution

okay

the solution is we need a computer program

to turn the pumps on when they turn off

we need a computer program to route the trucks

we need people

in positions to say to people listen

i don't have a walking truck here i do not have a truck

i'm actually very curious now how do you think the revolutions going to happen

i think there's going to be a civil war in this country and it's going to be a collapse of the american state and it's going to be very ugly and there's nothing we could do about it

right now

cept kept trying n

hold out and weather it's

that's what i think

you think there's going to be a civil war

with no planning no organization no

no logistics not not from any not from us not from people who are marxists

or communists

whoever' is planning anything is not us

coming from all the way up top

we have nothing to do with it

interesting

so

i just want to make sureain i'm not misconstuing you're flatly conceding that you're a defeatist right now

nope i'm a realist

interesting

so you have no expectation

of us having meny any meaningful effect or impact on anything in what time horizon please

the next ten years minial

ok

i'm looking twenty or thirty years out right now

there

well

i'm trying to reclaim

i communist parties

so

that's what i'm doing

and i mean i w's a ws o a little bit of t la

what that you finally conceded you have no plans but what do you

since you don't have any concrete objective

plan

i'll tell you my plan

one arm

telling it to my comrades in the communist party

soon as they open up those gates for me and i'm led in the party

tell you my plan

how about that

why would

anyone but anyone into anything if they don't have a plan i'm very curious why you think that

listen sir

want to plan

go buy some canned food

and plan with your family

there's nothing you could do at the political level right now noting

your plan is canned food and shotguns and you're confused why no one's letting you in the door

i don't believe anything's going to happen

they're not they don't think there's going to be a collapse so i don't know what you're talking about

communist party doesn't even take seriously

that's possibility right now

they're just tailing behind the democrats right now

ok

so

i don't know what

i have said very clearly that i believe there is going to be a collapse

let's just let's say you believe there's going to be a collapse all right

first you have to convince enough people to agree with you ok

most leftists don't agree with you

or they're just not realistic about

so what can you do with a joke

you want me to do

you can come up with a plan

no i want to make people laugh

i think people have a good sense of humor right now

so your entire goal here is to be a comedian

not

organize

any kind of comity it's a

it's a kept median

whatever you're attempting to be you are not currently at the present time

attempting to organize anything being resembling a plant to cot

i'm organizing a lot of laps

okay

well

i want to thank you

oh i isol you on je

you think there's something wrong with my position

yes

why

because one hundred fifty million people are going to die because

because of me one hundred fifty million people are going to die

yes

but you just said there's nothing i caln do

no i said there's everything you you said the computer program but sir you know i'm not a program

i

very well you don't need to be a programmer

so what do you want moregan what do you want my community let's say you have a thousand people at your disposal right now what do you want to do

if someone is able to design buildings

they designed large scale

buildings

yes

i first of all

do you want me to use my conventional

social media communication to organize these people right

yes

how do i vet them

like how do how do i prevent wcords from getting hold of my message and like

walking it all up feds and records on sit how do i do that

because everything's public

if things are not public i can't grow which is

it's kind of like a little

pickle wine man right

so how do i prevent that

what do you need to prevent that for i'm honestly curious

you can't prevent

the only thing you can do

is

work

within

the existing communist party we have

that works in the light of day actually

ity have a public platform

at the american people

right

can get a round up

you're not going to engage in any covert operations

to do anything

you say anything about covered operations

this yeah entirely yeah but

you're talking about something that affects one hundred fifty million people

ok

at that scale

you need a political mass movement

yah to do anything

yes

to get from a to b to get to a political mass movement

you have to introduce

your specific

position you have to introduce

your specific vision your specific line

yes

you are finally be to understand what i'm saying no you're not under you want to engage in some private

actions

of a thousand i said nothing about private action

you start with a thousand y here's the thing here's the thing we are too late

there'

we

i project by twenty thirty six is when we can take over the communist party

that's how conservative i am about this

ok i don't think

just to get enough people to listen

are you a leftist

define leftist whatever you get a party of five people

and there's going to be drama among those five people you have to wade your way

through this challenge

of just being able to have a fucking organization in the first place

before you can consider anything

so right now yes the objective

is survive objective is survived

get in that communist party prepare that communist party

and whatever is going to happen in society is going to happen and we cannot

we don't even have the organization

to address society right now

we're fighting amongst ourselves and there's nothing we cand do about it

we have to win this war amongst ourselves

before we can even address thecide

because because

the moment we try to build anything amongt ourselves

there's going to be drama there's going to be bulshit there's going to be factionalism and whatever

it just cannot be avoided

so it has to be dealt with

period

there's no way around it

the problem is

that we've already done that

no

no we haven't

should have watched my video yesterday

because this is what communists and socialists like yourself do not realize

we already live in a private socialism

your socialism says our guys we need to do x y and z because people are about to starve right or the climate is about to destroy the planet

whatever whatever thing you're saying right

okay

and you can you get in a room of a thousand people who agree with you about that right we need to work together

two

come up with a solution to this problem getet a

you can get

a million people in a stadium whatever to agree with you about this right

okay

in three hours that million people will splinter

into a group into a group of one hundred thousand groups a sorry a thousand groups ok the reason i're going to splinter

is because everyone's going to disagree on what that means

so your premise is not enough ok we have an emergency it's the climate that's not enough

that is not enough to build a cohesive organization has always been enough it has never been enough

never has always been a made none nly and his nsane moment in his friend and that was enough

one moment in history

the october rebeling was'

the october revolution was the consequence of decades of balkanized

factional disputes

not only within russian social democracy

but within the russian revolutionary tradition

spans like half a century oka

so no that's the worst example you could possibly give me

and all of them were resolved

the instant they actually had power

ok and the only reason they got power

it was because they already had a solid organization

and sorted out where they stood

exactly my point well that's where we must are not there now we are not there yet

we are not there yet

y friend i'm notup there you i'm a you tubeor i'm a youtube work i don't have a party

that's why i tell people to join the communist party i don't have a party i'm a youtuber

i don't make ten million dollars a year

did just start a party

you have a platform let me remind you

yeah my plat three times the size i be len in half

at the height of its circulation is had nine thousand people

you have how many thousand subscribers on your youtube channel

and you don't think you can do this no

i don't have enough money

look they robbed a funking bank

by the way

the robbed bin

for them i don't care

well i can't rob a bank sir

i i literally can't even

don't need to my showrunners so my showrunners eventually want to do this

for a living too

right now i only make as much to support me

my commuity is very generous right now they are extremely generous as it is

i have an extremely extremely generous community

as it is ok

and for now this only supports me all this can do is support me right now

so i'm not really sure what you're getting at

what i am getting at

is what i've been getting at from the start

we need to have a plan in hand ready to go

when wherever collapse you are visualizing who ok who is we

the communist party

whatever

definition of that you are using

a the communist party

is the

party i'm trying to

there's one comunist party right now just to get it straight

and i'm already telling my people to join it

if that one is not adequate organise a second

there is a reson w money ok give me the money you have ten million dollars

what do we need ten million dollars for read a plan ready in hand because if you're going to have a serious party institution

you have to a have a solid justification for why you're forming a separate party

most importantly we don't have that one right now

yes we do they have your plan

no we don't

we really don't

go

justification is

they have no plan

you have flatly conceded this thing is cut

whoever has a plan when this thing hits whever is a plan in hand ready to go

to put food on people's plates

is going to have the widest scale support this nation has ever seen

ud

you don't

understand that the people in power are already fucking

even forget about the people in power think of a guy who's just like a millionaire who's fifty million dollars

you don't know how big this country is is your problem like there's no we dude

i drive truck across this country i know exactly how big it is thank you very much

no you don't

you don't know how many organizations there are

how many institutions and how many billionaires and millionaires

they're planning for this exact thing right now

we don't care we're nowhere near them

we can't work like they do

our only weapon is the masses working in the light of day and getting numbers

is the only fucking thing we can do

we cad know exactly will have say we shull never win at the game of planning anything

you can't plan for shit right now there's nothing you can plan for

the only thing we can do is when

we can't lan for sure

point of our movement is central planet

that is the one thing we have a that's that's not that's not can't know that's an economic method

that is not the fucking point

of the movement

what you think the point of the movie is i did lenin centrally planned the october revolution

did he know one year before was yes it leton know one year before the october revolution was going to happen

no but once i get started he did in point in fact plan it there are multiple books citing this

eh he planned like two months ahead

yes

but we have better knowledge than london had we know this is going to happen we know it's going to happen years in advance

we have in

significantly more time than he had

you want to find what you want to start a farm together and you

that's not going to be useful

why not

we'll start our own society

we need aquapontics

no i'll tell you we'll start our own society and we'll invite as many people as we can to the farm

and

weill basically

it'll be like a

itll

we'll save everyone

thanks so

and that is my not going to work on a meaningful level there's too many bells and whistles and things moving

you don't want to live on a farm with me

i've lived on a farm it's not nearly as pleasant as most people think it is

yeah i know but

we don't find them

i think we spend a lot of time yelling at each other

alright i mean

not so

what

so we're going to start a farm together

and then what

we're not starting a farm again

we need to have a plan in hand

when the crash occurs that's my plan i don't know what else

what plan can i give you

i it's a pretty good plan

i think it's a really bad place

ok give me a better plan

one reorganize transportation in such a manner

gve out the necessity for credit mar

so

you mean like a

like in deth stranding where we get exo suits and like

he started building entire highways and ship

actually it's probably going to have to be mostly round

real

ya

we're going need to transition to biofuel

and it is a lot easier to distribute

biofuel to hal a dozen major real ard why didn i think of that all right we'll just start we'll just build a railroad

the'll just build a truck you have the railroad they're still there they just

connection tracks

all right so we build its connection tracks

yeah relatively easily done

p

when do we start doing this

whenever the collapse happens we need that's why we need to have the plan in hand

when the by way this'

not to interrupt you but how do i

do that how do i

connect them

have you never seen road trucks before

yeah i just don't know how to connect them like i'm not a railroad

right

bacchman

bots newepots

ah from where

they have them in warehouses

you know what kind i mean

yeah you look at the trackets whatever pot they already have

you go to the warehouse

you get the same bolt and you put it in the truck

m

is that a fhillip screw or

what are we used to

it's a bull

i mean to drill it in

that do we use a phillips or what do we use you used a ranch

a wranch okay

is there a specific kind of wrench or jt any wrench will

it's a pretty big wretch

alright a big okay i got

by the way how long does it take to like connect them

no clue i'm not i don't work on railroad trains

i simplykserve guys do because of my job

all right so we connect the railroads

and done what

then we need to move food

from where

from

the areas a the farms the aars are the people

so aventually f arms right peopll

back to where the farms are

you have read

the manifesto right you understand all of this was said very clearly by marx

will you say go to the farms and do what

the gradual merging of the city and the country

is chapter two of the manifesto yeah i didn't don't know that we're going to like do it voluntarily so

like we go to the farms and then

what do we do then

we farm

all right so after we connect the

was

go to the farm

and we foart

ll right seriously dud

what's you

i'm actually trying to have a serious convers i too i'm trying to

you know you're very much not all right so we're farming and then what

ok

you understand we are currently producing in ten times

what russia was at the start of the revolution

right

ah yea

so agriculture is not going to be a major problems not something we plan for

that's pretty much going to take care of itrself's all

so what's going on i mean

how many of us are there

all of us

i believe there's three hundred million people in the united states

oh

so how are you going to tell everyone to do that

because we have a plan

and we're the only ones with the plan

you don't actually think the capitals have any clue what they're doing do you

so

we're going to come up with a plan to

guarantee shelter food and clothes to the american population

at a time when the capitalists have exactly and precisely zero z

how t you how do you formulate this plan

with data

where do you get that

so on line right now

so all by yourself you're going to

plan this

preferably with help but if necessary

eight

so

like don't you think that

don't you think it's going to kind of like

you think it real you think you really have to come up with a plan to prove to people that like yeah we can have a state

that intervenes in the case of o like why do we need to come up with a plan

right now like

but you think the actual experts in the ind who are like

people who know about like how railroads and shit work like don't you think they would

i'd of sort that out if we got into power or whatever

has

you are aware that

g d p growth has been falling steadily for forty years right

oh

there you

so

do you actually think the gd p growth wouldi be falling sleowly for forty years

if the experts could do anything about that

yep possibly because

we don't have a planned economy

qrickly

excellent

that knowledge is not being utilized in like a

that's not limited to just that

the experts are working to organize

for the benefit of the company

but what benefits the company does not necessarily benefit

the economy as a whole

the entire point of us organizing the plan

is we are organizing a plan

you want from me let's say i have a fucking plan

you think that's gonna be enough

there millions of people to listen to you it's not

yes it will no it won't

it when this thing lands

and th those three days of food on the shelves of those stores runs out

yeah it's going to haves miliionar that it's going to be the military that comes up with immediate relief solutions hit dude

what do you you think there's going to listen to some random fucking guy on thisscord

they're going to listen to anyone with a plagh

who has both the plan and the power and the resources period

power means nothing it plan is everything

that is not true if that was true the utopians

would have fucking

prevailed a long time ago and is just look at the hurricane katrina response how much tod power or help george bush after hurricane did it when he did know even i even if people had a better plan the government did

they still would not have prevailed because they didn't have the resources

to do anything about it

only the government did the government has a monopoly on that

we will have the resources when we have the plan

the government doesn't tako wes no we won't why would we have the resources just ase we have a plan

because they're all there

the resources are there already it simply requires people to organize to utilize them

yeh going to youre dude i don't think you know how politics works ok

just because you have a plan doesn't mean people are going to listen to you

i don't care how existing politics works existing politics is directed by the bush zz

just because you have a plane does not mean people are going to listen to you

yes it absolutely does

no it absolutely doesn't

o

you understand this is how historically we have won

no it isn't it literally is not

how do you think we've onon i'm curious

um

winning the the winning the people

is not something that just happens when you

show them you have a plan otherwise the utopians would have prevailed a long time ago

it

has more to do with showing them that you have the correct position

or you have a position that reflects their interests within the class struggle

so a plan there we go no no because the class struggle obeys its own laws and its own logic

the class struggle is not obeying the laws of

an already existing socialist society like how do you plan this society the best way

who has the best policies

now a class struggle has its own logic

which is more actually on struggle as an objective fact

logic has nothing to do with it

he well it has its own

independence

four

no it doesn't

it's an objective fact

it no more has an independent form

then grasd smuggle has noting cle class struggle

has nothing to do with disagreements about plans or policies

no it doesn't in this re it's about oower it's about forms of power in relation to the people that's what it's about

no

yes literally las struggle is about

the objective fact

that mot multiple people working together will produce a greater result

thean equal number of people working alone

this is why adam smith know it's not that's evolving or that's literally

a sign that's printed in every corporate office in the fking country

that's an objective fact proved by adam smith with his pin factory exam

we can measure that by the way

that has nothing to do with what class struggle is and i think you're very confused

that's utopianism

no that's past struggle that is literally

all right what can you sell me were marks defines class struggle that way

when he talks about class consciousness

bk

can you show me the examples

no i'm not paging through hundreds of pages of text to find one example for you sho knowo much better than this

well i know marxs did not conceive a class struggle

as

people working together rather than alone

i think marx recognize that all classes work together in some kind of way by default

is all of society

works together by default

so no that was true class and tagonism wouldn't exist no it would precisely exist that's why it's called the division of labor

there's a general social labor it's just there's a division within that

that division is not simply a division of individuals

it's a division of different forms of labor which culminates

into the division between the proletariat and the bourgeoisie

so

you know i just that's not even remotely what that word means

division of the labor mean specialization

which on sts on the pin is the basisation

what

the division of labour is the basis of class

no it's not

the basis of class is the wages system

the bas of class

is that the person operating the machchine

produces a hundred dollars in goods

and receives fifty dollars in wages

oy sir if you don't know that for marks

classes arise because of the divisions of labor

i don't

know what to tell you

classes arise because of the serp the extraction of the surplus value

division of a labor i'm not j i'll just likey i'll just i'll just i'll just read marks for you cak

are from this standpoint

would constitutwo classes for they belong to two distinct social groups

the members of each of these social groups receiving their revenue from one of the same source

the same will be said of a true of an infinite fragmentation of interest and rank into which the division of social labor

splits laborers as well as capitalists and landlords

literally nothing you just said contradicts anything i have just said

it seems like he's saying that distinctions between the different classes

stems from the division of labour

no what he's saying is the division of labor

separates

workers and capitalists

into specific groups with specific skills

that is

instead of having one person who knows every aspect of the restaurant

you have a dishwasher

in a cock

yeah before that there's on before then there's a primary division of labor between

mental and physical labor

and mark says this directly i just have to find the exact

yes i'm fully aware of that and not contesting that in any way

but that has nothing to do with class

mental labor is as much a part of the proletariat

has anything else iti

for heaven's sake you seriously think the guy who came up

with what it what was it a

the chicken things mcdonald's has

do you think you made a fortune no

they gave this example

what was the show

the water here it is here it is ok

the great division of material and mental labor is the separation of town and country

the existence of the town implies the necessity of istration

here first becomes manifest the division of the population into two graad classes

which is directly based on the division of labor and the instruments of production

to the first

division into classes

is directly based on the division of labor that is marx in the german ideology

yes

and i'm not contesting that i just said well you did it vision of you labor as you specializedations no you didn't us that sor don't walk it back

did con say i'm not walking as someone didt a clip of you contesting that the division of labor is not the basis of class

you said wages are the basis of class not the division of labor yes they all din say and

the division of labor you said not the division of labor but wages

so you excluded the division of labor being the basis of class

the division of labor

creates

the conditions for the wages system

which are the basis

class

so the basis of class is the division of labor

i'm sorry are you seriously proposing to completely abolish all division of labor

yeah i yeah yeah actually yeah that's what mark said

you seriously think we are going to be able to maintain a modern society

with cars and trains

y

all kinds of jobs requiring specialized labor

if no specialized labor exists

you see was lag in of a farm field

and figure out how to make microchip so for as soon as the distribution of labor comes into being each man has a particular extensive sphere of activity

while in communist society nobody has one exclusive sphere of activity

but each can become accomplished in any branch he wishes society regulates the general production

and thus makes it possible for me to do one thing today and another tomorrow

to hunt in the morning fish in the afternoon real cat rear cattle in the evening

criticize after dinner

just as i have in mind without ever becoming a hunter fisherman herdsman or critic

this fixation of social activity

is consolidation of what we ourselves produce into an objective power above us

going out of our control thwarding our expectations

bringing to naught our calculations is one of the chief factors in historical development

up until now

oral marx s and ideology

i're sorry you flatly concedes my point

ok

that is the chief factor in development up until now

ciety

doesn't communist society

there will not be a division of labor

there will have to be a division of labor our production will fall

buy half or more if there is not

i we had that division be ameliorated yes absolutely i will flatly concede

that it is possible for one person

it's like i the same w really let you not away with no dude you can't just say one thing and then contradict yourself

when i show mark i am in no way contradicting myself i'm contradicting marks

and i will have sd i will happily contradict marxs all right ok so you disagree with marx

where he is wrong yes our eyes he has avanc since that time our understanding of economics in is bes

our ideas must advance with them

ll ight so what has it been

whats advanced by the way guy there's super chat wors turned off by you tube

however you can still a

membership

gift membership so that if you want to donate you can still do that

sorry someone in the chap was

yup that's coll

so

we require

in order to maintain a modern society specializ

nation of life

i don't even see how anyone would argue that wise you're not going to learn how to make microchips

in a couple of weeks

okay

now

does this mean someone can only make lanag no of course not

so uch

so if someone wants to make microchips for a couple of months

and go farm for a couple of months that is perfectly fine

but we need to understand that me doing things like making microchipts

requires extensive training

i think it's mostly automated

right now

isn't it

they stull need machine operators

yeah i'm not really sure it's like a scraft

i could be wrong i'm pretty sure it's not a craft

i'm pretty sure theo'sesigners

who um

you know

are not very numerous

but

i'm i don't really think people are sitting somewhere and like carving

microscopic chips with chisels or something

i'm pretty sure it's syringe

and they pour melted metal into a mold

but in any event

it a division of labor

is

absolutely required the present

so i don't really see how that could be gotten

gotten rid of

its entire

furthermore

the division of labor

while it inenables the wages system

's not the foundation of chluck

you can divide labor and not have cls

you chow it on the basis of class

non sequitour

yet is the division of labor isn't just about

different

people doing different things

it's about the commensurability of their activity

accially

define commensurability plase i want to make certain i'm not misunderstanding how you're ting the wor

the compatibility of their activity

with each other

yeah that's cost consciousness

no it's not

the unification of a laborer in conjunctive

force

yes

the major component of class conscious the awareness

that your labor is adding to someone else's labor their labor is adding to your labor

and together you are produced

see a greater result

in either of you could do alone

is that not really with class consciousness is nor would it nor is that what the nor does the commensurre ability of labor specifically retur refer to class con

we have read books very differently

well i agree with marx

in any event

we need a bu la buk is we do you don't have an audience

marxists

or thosetarded

those advocated

yeah yeah yeah soon as you started addressing all of the people advocating for this or that

youre getting yourself caught into a web of discourse

just like i am

you're going to have to be horsing around just like i am

there's no worming your way around it

it's not just a retan every hee ro who calls themselves a marxist

you have to actually struggle within what that means and to define what that means

that's not an easy fucking thing to do that's thats what creates a war

literally a fucking turf for it within the left

on the internet

over that shit

yes it's entirely superfluous and completely stupid anded your army you can go lead your army yourself of nobody'es

you're not goning to have a focke in on me

it you don't realise that in order to actually have

an audience you have to deal with this shit that you're saying is stup

no i don't i simply need to not be working sixty hours a week and start producing videos

unfortunately i have to work sixteen hours a week so

there we get go

which is why i'm talking to you this evening because aparently you don't have to work sixty hours a week

and can produce video i was i was in i was a full time law student sir

and i only do this full time now because i became successful

i started out as a full time law student

awesome i'm very happy fria

in any event back on subject

when the collapse occurs

the capitalists are not going to have answers

the government is not going to have answers you are going to litll turn to who ever does have as you question why do you need me if you have the answers

because you have a larger platform than i do

and more importantly

as i said at the start

you seem to think trolling and horsing around

is acceptable at a point in time going have time so do you want to do you want to use me because i have a larger platform

but you just happen to also be an expert in how to get a large platform

it want you do yourself

because i already said i have to work for a living

i was a full time law student

that's very fascinating

i've been a full time student if i had start this when i was you have not been a full time law student sir on your first year sir you have not been a full time law student

on your first year

as those people don't have any

the fact that i passed

was a miracle he

that you have no free time at all you have no free time

you're working

almost every waking

talking hour of your day you're dedicating it to law

i drive truck i literally work every waking hour of the day

what are you doing right now

sitting at home it's my day off

ok so on your day days off you can produce content

why wouldn't you be able to do that

because i us you think i uploaded every single day at first

i don't care

d you're talking about like how you have the time to like fix trains and shit

and now you're saying no i can't fucking like make a youtube channel

yes because when we emancipate the labouring class

they're going to actually have time instead of

no

mixing our only living you need my that you need you need my platform

to do this

right

i need you to stop worses yourod you but no n no you want to boss me around you want to boss me around

but you need my platform

so you don't you seem to know how to make a platform that i because you may you seem to think i just inherited this platform from my parents

but my parents passed away

and they gave me in their will that i would have five hundred viewers per stream

you seem to not understand how i got to the prominence i did

you to even have known and found out who the fuck i was

so for you to sit here and try and like

lecture me on how i should conduct myself publicly

without knowing anything about how to grow a platform to begin with

it's just i don't know exactly you you if you're in a position to be if you're in a position to be talking down to me about how i should conduct myself in public

then you shouldn't be sitting here saying oh yeah by the way has i also need your platform

no you seem to be a node al who has your own answers go make your own platform

you honestly don't undstand what this conversation's about do you

i know exactly what it's about you're and know it all who wants to come here

and you say oh this guys a lot of viewers

but

i happen to know what's wrong with him so i'm going to boss him around

so he could have zero viewers like i would because i don't know shit about how to grow a fucking platform

so i'm going to tell him what to do

like if i if i list why would i why should i listen to you

my question

has do you understand yourself like a capitalist right now i'm honestly curious i am a fucking capitalist i'm go fu

why should i listen to you

so

you flatly conceded that you are running a cotless platform

you're not interested in somes youre i wish i was i plan on opening a bunch of fucking sweatshops and shit

and i'm going to have grad students work in the

i'm opening up a bunch of fucking grad student sweatshops

no unions will be allowed and it's going to be violating various labor regulations

they're going to be all the working over time i'm exploit the shit out of them

they're all going to be fucking making my march and it's all going to be grad students doing it

i'm going to have a grad student sweatshop

and every single fucking day i'm going to dress as a fat cat

capitalist in a suit with a top hat and smoking a cigar every single day

i do dream of that actually

awesome

i want to thank you so much

for admitting that you are not a markist and i'm going to be just like frederick hos im going wt to me you know i going to be like angles as you need money sir you need money world sir

if you care about communism you need money in this world

to be rich as glorious are se he lift

damn he w

that was too much i guess

that was too much

that was too too much

it's like i you're saying you're at capital dark

we will build the aquaponic super railroad from ohio to new york

yeah

he left i is late

be fair now it's late he just left because it's late

right

no i was going to say it's like you or you're a capitalist

how the far were you guys

of course i'm got to try to make money at all costs guys you think if someone said hey haas

i will give you

a ten million dollar dividend in this corporation stocks

yes or no

i'm saying yes

hen a

doesn't know what it means for me to have financial freedom

it means i don't even need to rely on donations

you guys won't even have to spend a dime on

everything will just be one thousand percent free on your end like who wouldn't want that right

who wouldn't want that

yeah like who does

you

you need money to do anything in this world

to do anything you need money

si eight man

if someone wanted to sign over a factory to me you think i wouldn't own that factory butuck i would own that factory good morning the doggy dog world thank you so much jan are so a doggy dog mo the fucking world in this shit man

i would be a landlord if i could one thousand percent i would be a landlord

are you kidding passive income just being a parasite collecting rent

o kay i will do that shit

you can tell someone's

whose wy

when for moral reasons they say no i'm not going to do that that's someone who's burgeois

i

that's a bourgeois mother fucker because that person

that person is just elevated above it all right

that's not the working class i'm sorry go to a working class where say hey you won the lottery you have a billion dollars now

yeah that that dude is taking that billion dollars i promise

nobody's nobody's righteously

be in head chefs right

maybe some people do take pride in their profession of being a head chef

but they're not beaching about it on twitter right

they're just doing their passion

im nunomis they can't stop meica tankies

thank you so much and honort appreciate you so much

like guys if i do much

you think i'm going to do this shit where i'm like i'm going to do this hasan thing

'm having unionized merch

no i'm not gonna have unionized merge

i'm gonna sell merch out of price

it is as cheap as possible for the audience

i don't give a fuck who makes this mrch i'm sorry

i don't care

i don't care i don't gi fu

i'm not

listen

i'm going to start dressing as a fat cat capitalist i't give a fuk good morning revolution thank you so much zombie gou appreciate you man

appreciate you so much

i'm sorry if you all think

i would not accept an invitation to a yacht

a yacht party

you don't know who i am

you don't know who i am

you don't know who i am

thank you so much for that fifti b i appreciate your maam

appreciate you so much

you don't know who i am thatlet's just you don't you just don't know right

i'm not at let me tell you guys my spending pattern right

the truth is

i'm not humble i am just lazy

that's why i dress like a fucking bumb i don't dress like a bumb because i'm like

oh yeah

i'm true working glass i do it because i'm literally i'm greedy i'm a miser right

i hoard

honny

to pay for the necessities and then

the only time i drop a lot of honey is for the stream

to be completely fuk and honest

thank you so much light of tin laps i'll pay you ten dollars to watch a five minute video on youtube assuming it doesn't violate those

any letter to us don't worry about it we can say that for later

but on

i don't like spending money at all

ah because i'm always thinking like

what if my computer breaks or some shit like i'll need a new computer you know what i mean

but

if i

i like won the lottery

guys if i won the lottery can i like just take five million just for myself

just to like buy clothes and shit and buy like

a lambo or something and a house

can i do that guys

because we all know that if i won the fuck and lottery i would have to spend all of it on the c pusa right

i would have to spend all of it on the c pusa

and building a party right

can i just at least take five just for like my own

luxurious exorbitance

stay five right

and i'll just have a lambo in shit

and you drive the lambo oh chris yeah i didn't see who that was

bo was ify but chris morlock and drive the lamby

chris morelock and drive one

one thousand percent

matter of fact chris morrelock can crash my lamb buy another one

you can take my lambo and fuck in

crash it on a joyride

right i'll give you one

one free pass

to do whatever you want with it

as of how much you' contributed

but on

exorbitans o whatever

can you ride in the lambo

if there's room i think it's like a toe force if it's a four seater yet

but

me and chris are goinga be in there

but i

we could

we could like attach no here's we're going to do

we're going to get the lambo

then im want to get a big like wheel bed and attach it to the back of the lambo

and you guys can all pile onto that bed that wheel bed and the'll be like

they'll be railings on it in shit

and we'll just take off

so everyone can ride the lamboo

that's what we'll do

that's how i'll do it

yes fast we're going fast as ll so you better hold on those railings

and there better be you know it better not be too packed

i

but on

guys

it's not that i'm a virtuous person i'm a greedy

hour hungry fucking person

just that the way i express that is writing on my little laptop

when i'm writing my book that's my greed and that's my flling

sin for

how are hungry mana

y yes yes

no joke i'm not even kidding

i'm not even kidding

bth the way

not that i'm humble i just channle

i

a

sin in different ways

i channel my pathos in different ways that's what it is

like you coundot pay me and you can't

if you said hos here's ten million dollars

but you can never write again and you can't

spread your ideas i would literally say no

what am i going to fucking do what am i going to do with fucking money when i sit what play video games

what would i fucking do do it eventually it gets bucking boring

eight

eventually it gets born

eventually

you

what are you going to do you're going to fuck and go to the club you're going to you're going to buy a bunch of tables and shit

whatever i mean what it gets boring what are you going to do

that's why these rich people do drugs becuse it's just not enough they have to do drugs

they get addicted toy become like puck and hunter biden

o

that's the truth

that's the truth

i've seen it

i have seen it

that's not ope that's the truth

the reason

the reason people get rich

it's because

not it's not actually based on greed greedy people don't get rich greedy people become crackheads

that's the truth

the people who get money

get money

because

they're like devoting it

like a pet project

right

that's what it is i swear to goc

that was an interesting debate

i forgot all of it

i

i don't really think was interesting

he literally said

i asked him what do you wants me to do and he said program shit

i just think it's foer

think it's done

think it's as stupid though

it' such a shame that that pussy

it's part of the debate isn't it

ii

what else did i want to show you today

chek w

o a go

what of one day

and a lot of fun

had fun di you guys have fun we're not done yet though

that's just the thing we're not done yet

we're not done yet

n no

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oh i see

interesting

wan't to react to something

howt react to stuff hah

gordon peterson oh yeah the web bite thing that's what i want to

i can react to

cbusa web wiite tendency

so there is someone submitted an anonymous letter to the c busa

about the so called web bite tendency

it's on a wick

it's such a weird way

ight

we' going to check the weki out actually

a

so here's prol wiky

here's cruel wiki

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infrared

infrared is a soft no infrareds a collective whoever did this has to fix it

is located in the united sts america it has about twenty thousand subscribers and over two million views

based on a mixture of marxism lenism and socialist patriotism

that is kind of inaccurate

but whatever

they may

many hold reactionary and even far right views

i said this is one of those

at sock ops right

such as creating that the usa was created on the basis of anti imperialism

ah

who the fuck made this shit

who the fuck is wisconsin

i think these are the ops these are like these pat socks that hate us

so this was written by a c i aad knew that because this article did not even mention me at all

so it

yeah

so

we already kind of went over most of this lead or not

but they kind of talk about how

a lot of those websites are still in the cpusa people's world is still controlled by it

today

they didn't mention me once despite the fact that i'm like this

single

i'm the i'm the sole of inspiration behind the ship right

like i'm the one who exposed the committees for correspondence

what kelom did first

but i popularized it and all the details they're listing here

i popularized i you know

so not mentioning me

and barely mentioning klub is kind of

we're right

it's kind of weird they'd barely mention lob

at all

they don't mention me at all

with this kind of

is that super interesting

it's just it doesn't have any new revelations you know

talk about the website fraction

so

ts

oh that's me

i have a wiki though i don't i'm not that happy with it

ah

but

is to be fair it is kind of way more generous than you'd expect from an enemy right

it's not as bad as youd think it would be like they say we're reactionary and far right whatever

but

nawia conspiratorial is now defining feature

fascism

old fascist movement

check this out neo fascism oh my god they used the january sixth

who the fuck made this is an anonymous c psa person

what the farck is this

on fourth political theory

mm

no no explanation why

the new fascist

okay

how mean is the

no that's not what communism is at all

the real movement

capitalism

only defined by ownership and not revenue

interesting

interesting

what happened to our wikipedia project y remember that

can i edit this

can i edit this

i can't et it a fox

it's not like open source

oh no

all conspiracy theories are far right

he loo

the usa has an empire

mm

you can tell someone really hates you when they include your zz right

you can tell like they really hate you when they like

they tried a fucking

transcribe your exact speaking

aters

the british the british wrote

the british ruling class

like this is such an exaggeration

you can tell they really hate you right

they do this a

are they really fucking at your guts

trying to like make you look like a fucking idiot right

cause like on video it's like whatever but like when you when you transcribe it it's like a dramatic emphasis

as if like it means a lot

right

dude this is so fucking dishonest like he's make it seem like this was like my writing like this what i wrote

dude you just took

i'm literally a streamer i stream

hours and hours and hours and hours every day notm a streamer

okay

i'm a screamer this is what i do

i

so

what is the fucking point of this i am literally a streamer of course

not everything i'm going to say is going to be like this

eloquent soliloquy or some shit like

yeah if you transcribe every fucking sentence randomly i say like

and this is so stupid because i've actually explained

this with a lot more eloquence before

so why would you quote this is oh this is p car's thought this sentence right s the fuck u you know

yea this guy's bot heod his ft

by superman

one of the reasons why i i

distance myself from the passaw community

there's a lot of

these pat sock people that are just scum and fuck these revisionist pieces of shit i'm sorry but the revisionists we're done with revisionists we're done with them

we're done with these falkings

ankle biting

that wait

people

like the photographers and shit we're done with them we're done with these people

you know that try to lay

police our shit go suck my cock every ok i have a message for every single pat sock

w

is fed up with infrared

up please souck my cop

please actually suck my entire dick

and choke on my did

that's what my message

like

choke on my dick

and soak my car

sock my foking cart

if you have a problem with hoz

start your own youtube

good luck

starch your own you tube no one gives a fuck

starts norn shit

itg

like the they they crossed their arms like i' just had it enough with these infrareect

what do you want

just fug off there

what do you want from us

i've been noticing this infrared gt oka you've been noticing so go outside

what you want

don't notice your own youtube channel

we notice your own community what do you want from us

uk and karen

i er the lessons from today's stream lessons from today's stream is everything you do haves a consequence

a

parms the beach

yada yadayada

one of those things carm was a bitch

comma was a really bad bitch

right and i do mean that with all misodynistic

mm

with all musogeynistic intent

parma is a bitch

mmhmm

mhmm

mmhmm

auhuh bach

ha beach

take a snap a that one and add it to your collection a

so the pussy didn't show up for the debate today

that's ok bes we got a debate that was pretty kick

we also had fun anyway

it's a great stream

greag ram

anyone who wants to say i'm a bad guy or whatever

you have no right to stand p

i a just man

i am a just man

i'm a just man

let no one claim i'm not a just man because i am

hore very justed

but just ma

the

that with that being said and without any further ado

thirteen sick pi by da just just way f all the broken hearts that god lad w we don't youy di we go fas just

all this love had all my heart to you all this moment

spend myart much trust you you tickets for two people i b you spend my left to f for you you need the my just call you just

ust cinemag ns fll cin

i don't know what to do i don't know if and i have an enemy

there are so many out there