A New Introduction to Capital

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what's up everybody let's do this

abruptly

how y'all doing in the chat

let's see who we got today mr cyber

cyber what's up

mr cyber cyber coming straight out of

russia what's up man temujin what's up

just in time what's up rendon dhonian

what's up man

couldn't you what's up exactly we got

those king kong vibes

uh macbeth says what's up man comrade

romano what's up mr d

what's up no more lips please shout out

no more lives with his

interesting videos um

what's up brent already said right now

what's up great gaddafi's ghost

what's up punjab one f i

um what's up quindy

okay i'm gonna get to it don't worry

about it quindy but um i wanna first

start the stream by saying i wasn't

supposed to stream today

um on tuesday i said i wasn't gonna

stream tuesday but the reason for that

was because today i was supposed to get

my hair cut

but my my barber guy he wasn't available

today

so i rescheduled for tomorrow so

tomorrow there's not going to be a

stream

and thursday there might be a stream but

definitely this weekend there's going to

be another stream so i feel like we got

to do a stream on tuesday because you

know i don't want to leave you guys

hanging throughout the week you know i'm

saying infrared cannot be silent for so

long

and um what's up john brown how you

doing

and there's also something else i want

to say um

in case you know the air has not been

cleared guys

is that it's simple fact that infrared

cannot be stopped

infrared cannot be stopped you

understand we are in a nascent

stages of our growth right now

we're like a baby in the cradle right

now infrared cannot be stopped

okay we are going to continue streaming

we're going to continue growing

we're not going anywhere okay unless

we are all you know what i'm saying this

has been a long time in the making

this whole thing

i'm muted i'm not fucking muted what are

you talking about

okay okay yeah um sorry

infrared is not going anywhere guys it

we're simply just you know

a lot of people don't want us to grow a

lot of people saying shit like

oh i don't think we should be giving

these guys attention it's bad for the

left i don't want to left where these

guys are going to be popular

it is inevitable infrared cannot be

stopped

you're gonna wake up one day you're

gonna see that we're big you know what

i'm saying

you're gonna wake up one day and you're

gonna see i got 250 viewers here right

we're in the nasa original stages of our

growth

um a lot of people really don't want to

see us grow i'm telling you this a lot

of people just don't want to see it

a lot of people look at infrared and

they think smugly to them oh they're not

going to grow

i hope they don't grow and they try to

talk shit on us because they're trying

to

put the brakes on this train but the

train keeps on moving you know what i'm

saying it cannot be stopped

infrared simply cannot be stopped okay

a lot of people are mad a lot of people

are gonna get mad over that fact

but the fact of the matter is is that

we're not going anywhere

and we this has been a long time in the

making guys been a long time in the

making

we've been very observant of what's been

going on in the left

for a long time and now we're finally

putting our foot on the door and we're

saying it's time for infrared to see the

light of day

and all of us knew for a fact when

infrared sees the light of day

it's just gonna be grown because

nobody's seen anything like us

okay nobody's seen anything like us

i haven't seen anything like us correct

me if i'm wrong okay

the western specifically american left

long time coming they're gonna need a

big rude awakening from people like

infrared it's been a long time coming

guys okay

so it may seem like a lot of people skim

us a lot of people sleep on us right

because of arrogance they see us they

say all these people only have 2 000

views

on their video that means they must not

be that big that must

they must not be that significant

i know you're wrong man we just we just

out of this shit

we're fresh out of the you know so those

of you in the chat

props to you guys in the chat right now

props to the viewers right now

you guys are witnessing something that

is destined to be big

i'm telling you we're gonna you're gonna

see 250 views one day

you guys are the first ones here because

as far as i'm concerned

especially this goes out for our regular

viewers you guys are the ogs

who don't care about the opinions of the

sheep

whatever you know i'm saying y'all watch

our shit

because you can see it even though we

don't have the

thousands of views to confirm it you can

individually see

infrared's gonna amount to something big

you know so props to you guys

and by the way guys when we do get big

i'm gonna remember every single person

that was here from the start

because you guys are the founders you

guys are the original vanguard of

infrared the founders of infrared

the ones who believed in us even though

we didn't get that validation from all

these

all these people all these especially

all those people who talk shit down i

don't really want infrared to get big i

don't really i'm not really comfortable

then

you guys are the ones who've been the

vanguard oh geez from the very beginning

shout out you know what i'm saying when

we get big and we're gonna start needing

mods and shit

i swear to god all of you guys i'm

seeing in the chat

you're gonna be first priority okay

you're gonna be first priority 200 views

is a lot for a live stream it's a fuck

ton right that is a lot we only got

we averaged 30 40 viewers per stream

okay so that is a lot

that's a lot to me at least okay and to

us

and beyond 250 it might even get more

but i'm saying at least 250 right

at least 250 that's realistic eventually

you know what i'm saying the fact of the

matter guys

is that nothing the the the left in

america

is going to reckon with infrared a

reckoning is coming

we are literally the same thing as bane

in the league of shadows when they're

coming into gotham

you know you don't know who we are you

don't know where we came from but the

american left is gonna reckon with us

i promise you that much you know what

i'm saying

and i want to show you a quick little

intro video

right now i'm going to show you a quick

little intro video

to explain to you guys what's going on

you know with infrared and how we're

kind of coming into gotham city aka the

american left and how the american life

is going to have to reckon with infrared

nobody knows where we came from but the

fact of the matter is that

they're going to reckon with us they're

going to have to reckon with us

let's show you guys this uh intro video

to what infrareds get amount to ready

okay we're gonna do that for later

looks like you need a ride all right

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how the hell did miranda take at the

inside track on the weighing board

listen

i mean should be meeting with this guy

is bread tube he's the established left

he's the type of left that's looking

down infrared talking shit out infrared

you know what i'm saying hi you gotta

figure out how to let us embed the side

tube i'll i'll do it dude don't worry

i'll do it with one sec i want to show

you this video with them she's been

sleeping okay

exactly uh clearly you don't know much

of anything do you where's bang look at

them

they're complaining about infrared

this is us guys this is us basically

this is us

what the hell is going on

no time is proceeding as expected oh

really

this is neon this is fucking neon you

know what i'm saying this is neon this

is ray this is all those people from

that website that was talking shit on us

that's that guy

i look like i'm running wayne

enterprises right now

you're hit on the stock exchange it

didn't work

my friend and now you have you guys

don't make sense

you're mercallist and uh your third

worldists

you guys don't know what you're talking

about you're saying we live in socialism

you gotta get the fuck off the internet

i have my construction crews going

around the city

at 24 hours a day how exactly

is that supposed to help my company this

is neon talking shit all that shit on us

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believers no you stay here in charge

that was this the guy in the back is ray

when ray got the fuck out because i beat

him in the debate

okay see this this is to neon all those

people talking shit on us ready

this is what it's like do you feel in

charge

i've paid you a small fortune this gives

you

power over me what is this

your money and infrastructure

your clout and your attention neon and

all you haters out there

important till now

haven't gotten reckoning we are the

american left's reckoning guys

that's what we are doing you've all been

living on

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exactly that's exactly what infrared is

about that's the type of vibes we're

projecting

everyone can see it you guys are gonna

see the plot is gonna thicken

gotham city's got some reckoning with

infrared i'm telling you

gotham city's got some reckoning with

infrared

we're gonna have implications for the

american i'm talking about

implications you know what i mean for

the american left

and uh just like the joker just like

bane coming out of nowhere you know i'm

saying that's what we are all about

that's what's going on here you

understand

and we simply cannot be stopped we

simply cannot be stopped who can stop us

we are putting our bait out there

because we want vosh and we want all

these people to come after us

because they don't know what they're

getting into guys they don't know what

they're getting into anybody who wants

to debate infrared they don't know what

they're fucking getting into they're

unleashing a monster

it's literally the same as that scene i

just showed you with bain

they have no idea what's going on they

have no idea

what plans infrareds got in store for

the american left you know what i'm

saying

look at me you know i'm saying plot

thickens you know i'm rubbing my hands

together because i know the plot is

thickening

and i know we're gonna be clipped and

shipped we're gonna be spread around

it's only a matter of time

we're gonna go viral like that you

understand

there is no breaks to be put on this

strain of infrared

okay now with that being said now that's

being said

we're i'm this is what this stream is

actually about this one specifically

right because there's a reason i'm doing

this stream

specifically today on tuesday right

you're gonna don't worry guys

as the days pass we're gonna keep on

this train of thought

and there's no breaks on this train but

i want to do a quick little educational

stream

right i want to do a quick little

educational stream

because all i see nowadays

is that i'm seeing this phrase of

capitalism and capital and everybody's

using these phrases

and i feel like it's about time we

return to the basics

and i want to reintroduce you guys to

marx's capital

so all the bullshit you got in your head

all the bullshit you got in your head

about marx's capital

and all the things these fake marxists

are teaching you these fake leftists are

teaching you

everything you've been seeing on youtube

everything you've been i want you to

turn it off for one second and i want

you to be a baby newborn from the cradle

and we're gonna go down from scratch and

we're going to talk about

marx's capital we're going to talk about

the meaning of capital we're going to go

down

back to the basics it's exactly what

infrared does you know what i'm saying

so let's get right into it and this is

going to be a visual heavy

stream and we're going to use visual

illustrations

for this okay so the first question is

for our stream is a simple question

simple simple question ready what

is capital

simple right what is capital

i mean what is that what is that word

referring to what is capital

right what is this

this word you've seen all around all the

time right

um

well it's condensed

in this formula you guys probably know

about this formula

you've seen it before m

c

listen guys it's as simple as this

it's as simple as this

but first let's not take anything for

granted

let's not take a single thing for

granted in this okay

i don't want us to take anything for

granted don't think you know

you don't know your newborn baby in the

cradle we're all in this boat together

we're gonna go from scratch

what is this what's going on here mcm

so we're gonna deal with mcm in two ways

space

concepts the discrete concepts

that are involved in this operation

time because this is a temporal

formula mcm okay so

let's continue and i'm gonna

we're gonna do this simple as that

okay so

we have money money

m

commodity c

see and then more

money that's what more money means

so conceptually this is what's going on

in time this is where the bad

assumptions are being made

about the meaning of this mcm

and it's begin with money

invest in commodity gain more

capital this is the sequence supposedly

this is where people really fuck up is

the time part okay

people really fuck up with time now so

far

it's so simple right now do you all

follow me that this is capital

you begin with money you're gonna invest

that money into something

commodities in return you get more money

that's the elementary circuit circuit

okay remember this is a circuit

think in cybernetical terms that's the

elementary circuit of capital you all

follow me or no so far

i'm breaking it down as simple as

possible right now you guys following me

you guys following me let me see in the

chat you guys following me

before we continue

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i don't see nothing in the chat is there

a delay is there a delay going on

what's going on quickly i'm hearing

crickets

i'm hearing qrikets chirping

what am i supposed to think okay now now

here it is pouring in pouring it now

my bad there's a delay this is july

there's a delay yes defined money is

distinct from currency

don't worry about the great gaddafi's

ghosts think about money in your head

don't worry about the whole thing

y'all get it okay what's up neat feet

you guys get it

okay okay great great great great great

great great great okay

great so i'm gonna delete all this

but actually i'm not going to delete it

i'm going to save this

hold on i don't want to dox

our shit so i'm going to save this

save as png put this here

capital okay saving that and we can

bring it up

later and return to it

if need be right if need be

flirpar i'm getting to that right now

the first

element in this circuit of capital is

something called

money now these dumbass marxists who

come talk shit about us

and come talk down to us and talk shit

to us

they think they know what this is but i

guarantee you they don't know what the

fuck they're talking about

they don't even know what this is money

don't take anything for granted guys

think about everything everything

everything critically

think about everything everything deeply

this ain't nothing to fuck around with

guys

say nothing to fuck around with okay

money let me tell you something about

money

money is a strange thing

it's existed for so long and what is

money related to

money is related to religion yeah

you know that guys did you know that

money

is related to religion religion

it's sacred it's related to metaphysics

to relate to philosophy it's related you

can even say the cosmology

money is very deep money goes deep guys

there's a reason on the us dollar and

i'm not going into schizo

territory there's the all-seeing eye

on the dollar bill why is that i'm gonna

get to that i'm not talking about

illuminati conspiracy posting

it's a really simple reason okay we're

gonna get to it

okay we're at money money's never

something you should take for granted

we just said money your money just let

you burn shit that's from the

perspective

of a layman but i want you guys to take

a

deeper perspective i want you to take

the perspective of a philosopher

a theologian somebody who thinks someone

who has an expansive view of things

i don't want you to think of it from the

terms of a layman because from a

layman's perspective

yeah money should i go to the gas

station and buy seven up from

okay money i go my mountain dew with it

nah

what is money though on this deeper

level when you think about it

expansively you understand

what is money okay well

first things first historically speaking

anyone in the chat want to correct me if

i'm wrong go ahead correct me if i'm

wrong

maybe there's some exceptions but for

the most part

okay for the most part historically

for the most part money

is denominated

um is that the right word denominated

money is denominated legally

by the polity this is the first thing

okay actually one of the things that

define an

empire or some kind of central authority

or a polity historically

the easiest thing is monopoly over

printing monopoly over printing coins

okay and i think it was the roman empire

and many other countries

printing fake coins

printing coins outside

central authority is execution

it's nothing to fuck around with okay

another fun fact in many polities and

empires

such as the roman money

printing was religious

they did it near done near temples

okay not a lot of people know that okay

how do we only have for 23 viewers by

the way guys like i'm dropping so much

that's okay it's okay the 23 that are

here you're at the vanguard

you're getting it before anyone else

okay don't worry about it

but um yeah this is something a lot of

people

don't when people think of money what do

they think oh there's a shit in my

pocket i'll go to the guys they should

buy some mountain dew and buy some

cigarettes

no we want to take a more expensive view

what money is right

think about it like this money is

religious money is political

money's metaphysical okay

money equals fiat currency that's way

more complicated we're not going to go

there

way more complicated okay

so now that we've established that let's

think about a few things that we know

about money

okay what do we know about money

layman

i mean laymen

okay what do we know about money

simple we know we know

that money can be exchanged

for shit for goods

goods right everyone knows that

what do we know about money it can be

exchanged for shit

you know so

so much money so much money

equals so much

so much of a quantity

of goods right

but i want you guys to think about

something why is there money and what

does it mean that there is money

what does it mean that

money exists now most of you are gonna

say

what does it mean that money exists most

of you gonna say something like

money exists money exists

a medium of exchange

we're not arriving at money yet okay

we're not arriving at money yet

because then why not bartering

then why not only bartering

direct exchange what does it mean that

there is something called money

okay matt jay the debt thing is really

interesting but

we're not gonna even go there we're

gonna go on such a simpler level

um before then why not only

bartering direct exchange well what

money bears witness to more or less

let's put this dividing line here

is on the one hand

the sum of all goods and services on the

one hand

and the

abstract medium in which

they are all represented

okay what is this

line right here this line

right here is the reason there's money

okay

there's a division there's some kind of

original division

some kind of split that allows us to

divide

or abstract from the sum of all goods

and services

into some kind of tangible medium

we call money okay but that bear was

witness to a division

if money isn't just

exchanged but it's abstract

right what abstract position

does that does money presuppose in

relationship to the whole of being

okay because let me put it let me

represent it to you in another way

on the one hand you've got this cliff

right here

and you've got you've got someone

like neon standing on the cliff just

like anyone else i'm not picking on neon

could be anyone

they're looking on the cliff and

somehow they're elevated above

all goods and services

all things that can be exchanged in

general

okay this is like

a picked right over on this pit

you've got all this shit and then money

puts you right here

money puts you in this vantage point

okay

money gives you this bird's eye view in

a sense

where you're above it all right you guys

follow me or not so far

you're above all of it because money

abstractly represents all of it this

makes sense for so far now

let me know where you guys are at

there's a delay so remember that's why

i'm waiting

see what you guys think whoever said

supply and demand

stop trolling you understand um

this is your god that's deep you guys

you guys understand

i'm waiting for you guys because we can

continue on this

or we could move on right but

i want you guys to understand this you

guys follow you follow yes

okay few people said they're following a

few people said they're following

following yes we're here damn i hate

this fucking delay man

there's a way to ameliorate the delay

we're good okay i think we're good

there's no objection so far okay good

great great i want to talk

briefly about exchange

okay exchange i just made this cliff

keep that in your head

keep that in your head this cliff i just

i just showed you keep it in your head

and print it in your mind remember it

let's talk about exchange what is

exchange what is

exchange and why

if people can understand this they're

going to stop committing the stupidity

of misunderstanding what private

property and capitalism is

people think private property and

capitalism is a system someone

implemented

before the fact and that someone said we

should all have private property

and we're not for someone saying that

and issuing that by decree we would

already live in communism

but there's actually there's actually a

material reason why exchange

is necessary a material reason

why exchange is necessary okay and it's

very simple

we're gonna do more of this bullshit

abstractions so let's say we have here

neon

and then

we have rey right

why is it

why is it

why is it that they must enter into

relationship toward one another

right through them through some kind of

exchange first and foremost forget about

money first through some kind of

exchange

okay i have shit

and he has shit okay the reason is very

simple

the reason isn't because someone created

a system that says you have to be

separate

but because they are originally

separate

because social

keep this in your mind if you have to

remember anything social relations

social relations are not

not given okay

these fur let's say they're born on

different parts of the planet

right and they're going through the silk

road they're whatever

exchanging goods why how else could they

enter into some kind of relationship

if if not

then by measuring what here's my shit

here's my shed

what is a fair equivalent between the

two okay

it seems like it's all simplistic and

it's all intuitive and it's all given

but um

some people just don't think about this

okay

especially the way people talk about

capitalism and private this is why it's

stupid right because

there's a material reason why it's

necessary don't knock on an open door

it's not because there's some

conspiratorial system that's put in

place

there's no such thing as a capitalist

system

the word system i'm not gonna represent

here system

okay and capitalism have no relationship

whatsoever

you understand system is a cybernetic

word

okay capitalism okay is not a

system because it's not premised by some

kind of

nobody says let there be capitalism and

then there's capitalism

capitalism is the culmination what about

family relations

it's very related but we're not going to

get into it here

within families you have communism

basically historically

okay all right so we understand

the material reason behind exchange

that's the most simplistic point we're

gonna make so far

but um

but it's gonna it's leading off to this

but how are prices turn neat

can you chill we're going back to the

basics pretend you're in kindergarten

right now

because a lot of marxists need to okay

exchange

why is there money well

here's what money means

so we're gonna come back to neon here

we're gonna have neon here we're gonna

have ray right here again

and we're gonna give him a tail because

he's like a furry weirdo

probably

this is rey this is neon okay

now what is really going on

when currency enters the picture in this

exchange we just did kind of explain

bartering

with bartering right here's his shit

here's a rey's shit right a bunch of

boxes and here's

neon shit and this and with bartering

right

you're gonna have so much of this be

exchanged for so much of this

okay that's what's going on with

bartering you understand

but when money enters the picture

instead of

these squares he's just gonna have

a little coin some currency and

let's put that illuminati symbol right

there

and uh we're gonna put that right here

okay good right it looks like the greek

democratic army symbol okay

sorry with

money you're gonna use this little

thingy

what do you guys think are we being a

little bit generous to neon with with

what this looks like okay he's taking a

big piss

in ray okay sorry i'm really fucking it

up here

money is being used to purchase this

so he can have this shit okay but

what is this curious little thing this

money

right this uh piece of currency this

gold coin

what is this thing what's going on

what's going on

makes no sense before he was wearing a

diaper okay

what's going on with this right we just

explained

that money basically

purchases for

all all exchangeable

goods and services

what this means more or less

okay we remember some things money

exchanges for all goods and services

and also it's political

monopoly by polity

authority

okay these are two things

okay so you've got

these two guys and somehow this little

thingy

is kind of cock-blocking them right they

want to hug and kiss

and just have a direct exchange of goods

a mutually agreed on resource for the

sole per yeah

what are you talking about dude let's

we're going we're going to be more

fundamental more simple okay

somehow these two enter into exchange

and this thingy right here this thingy

right here

is intervening and cock blocking them

basically right they have to make a

count

with this abstraction in order to

enter into some kind of social relation

this way

the social relation in a sense

the relation is mediated

not just the social relation

is mediated not just

as between two parties

but between but through the polity

this is where we're getting on the money

okay through the polity

okay i know this was a clusterfuck you

guys follow this so far

because when they're using money the

social relation

isn't just going to be mediated right

through so i have some shit so okay

neon has some shit and ray has some shit

and they want to exchange

their boxes right directly

and in this way that would be two

parties entering into a social

relationship

purely based on the exchange of the

goods bartering but what money means

is that what there's something there's a

third something that's mediating their

relationship

you understand

you get your needs money is alienating

yes it's alienating it money is an

abstraction

but who says alienation is bad right

money abstracts

from you understand this is what money

is okay

you guys follow good now remember that

that cliff representation i just showed

you

what's in what does that also bring to

mind right it brings to mind

the lion king or something right you've

got

you've got uh this king over here

right sitting on his cliff

and then you've got

you've got shit

you've got uh

you've got fuck what am i doing

select you've got these little guys

chelsea you just got a bunch of fucking

people right

got a bunch of people

not only do you have a bunch of people

but you also have

all the things in the land

you've got all the people sorry this is

such a drag down point

you guys get it you get all the people

and you got all the goods

and services and all this shit right

simple right don't no forget about

hierarchy okay

it would be easier to understand if you

didn't miss mix neon

uh too much into this okay fine i'm just

i just need an example of an individual

guys

you're getting ahead okay we're very

simple okay

so this represents what the polity

polity this is the polity right

polity and

the um the realm is something i think

specific to feudalism and middle ages

and christianity

but let's just say lands over which it

exercises

dominion

so you have this on the one hand

people and things

over which it exercises dominion

but there's a one-to-one relationship

between this

right right here

and currency money money

okay so we're gonna just simple as this

all goods

this looks so ugly

does this make sense does this make

sense

you guys get the connect connection so

far

tell me if this makes sense you get the

connection so far

uh

i'm just uh waiting for the delay

because remember there is a delay

you guys get it okay so two people three

people get it

is everybody else follow me or what you

guys get it

neat yes continue okay neat says

continue we're gonna continue

okay great so

never be frugal with an abstraction

is the lesson here why is that

now in our head

okay in our head

in layman's head brendan just explain

i'll simplify it in layman's head

our head

our head

money just means

and money

abstractly

money abstractly

exchanges for all commodities

all commodities in our head okay

but this is something unique but

but this is something unique to

modernity

and to capitalism

why is that so we're gonna put this

right here for all commodities

but this is something unique to

modernity

and to capitalism what am i getting onto

here

guys it's okay i'm glad he's being i'd

prefer someone be honest there's nothing

wrong if you can't

follow okay why is this unique to

modernity into capitalism

because because

because

before capitalism

the range the range

of commodities for which

for which money exchanges for

is determinate and finite

determinate and finite

what is meant by that what is meant by

that

here we go ready what is meant by that

let's continue money now we're gonna go

before

capitalism so

in this case the currency this means

currency

okay the currency

exchanges for let's say

um

currency is gonna exchange for

um let's say uh what's that

thing that they were trading in arabia

that that flower or whatever

let's just say um what is that

fucking that incense right that incense

that's from arabia that they were

trading

you know what i'm talking about okay

let's just say

grain right i'm going to say grain

we're going to say silk

silk and let's just say

i want to say salt but i don't want to

say salt

i want to say uh what a weird comment

grain silk and

what is that fucking thing they were

trading i don't know um

grain silk and uh

fuck i have a brain fart right now what

am i trying to think

and let's just say uh swords right

because you can think of a blacksmith

dude i haven't defined capitalism at all

guardsmen yet

i haven't done that yet okay grain

silk and swords okay i'm using all these

because they're specifically okay

how is this produced how is grain

produced

how are these goods produced

how are these goods produced tradition

tradition understand

tradition money may exchange for all of

these commodities

but all of these commodities are indexes

of

tradition okay

indexes of tradition and determinate

specific

and finite forms of labor that are

passed along several several generations

for example blacksmiths

they have a fine art they pass it to

their son

and their son's son and their son's

son's son and sooner or later

an entire village

region or even polity can be known for

its

sword craft thing right

same thing goes for everything else

right you guys get that or no

you guys get this

so money is determinant

money doesn't just exchange money

does not exchange for

all goods and services

rendered abstractly

rather the abstract

rises to the concrete meaning what

meaning what the abstract

has abstracts from

determinate from determinate

commodities goods

commodities and services

passed by tradition for example

which means okay which means

which means this coin

this coin right here

doesn't mean all goods and services

despite the fact that it's abstract

despite the fact

that it is abstract cracked

spite the fact that it is abstract

it abstracts

it is abstractly concrete

or it is concretely abstract it is

concretely abstract

when you think of the king

the polity and money

does not refer to power in the abstract

but power over definite land people

things and

services

tell me if this makes sense this is a

little hard to understand

this is a little difficult to understand

i'll grant that

this is a little difficult to understand

tell me if you guys follow

this is really difficult stuff so no

shame in not understanding this part

this is hard and i i wonder if i

have to uh you know make it more clear

this entire lesson requires reading no

it doesn't dude i've simplified it so

much

but i need your guys's feedback tell me

what you're not getting or what you're

getting

you're lost now okay that's fine well

you guys are saying you follow

okay i'm gonna just recap

we're gonna do a recap

recap so far

money doesn't have value but we give it

value

guardsmen you're way too much

overthinking it

okay just think about what money is

as it's used don't think about it more

deeply

what is money exchanged for and

what original division gives rise to

money

recap so far

recap so far

how does it change anything if it's

definite things

but not abstract mr cyber cyber i think

the point is that

it doesn't change directly like in

capitalism and capitalism

there's technological revolution in the

forces of production

and pre-capitalism that's why

technological change

is so stagnant and slow

it's because what i said before the

craft is passed along by tradition

the abstraction is static despite the

medium currency

the odd history can be tied to the same

abstraction

the abstraction not quite static but

determinant just rewind and re-watch

what he just said okay

well i'm gonna do a little quick recap

okay recap

in bartering okay

exchange exists because

social relations are determinant and

not given you guys understand this right

exchange exists because the social

relations are determinant

and not given

okay

the simplest type of exchange is

neon giving neon

selling grain

to what's that guy's name

ray in return

for some pelts

okay this is bartering

okay

okay baby brain

uh okay let's continue let's continue

but with

in that way the only social relation

created is between neon

and rey two actors

but

okay i just chose wrong square i'll give

a fuck but

but now my fucking camera's in the way i

can't even see my screen

but

this supposes we are just

atomized individuals in reality

we are already in some kind of social

relation proof of this

okay

all right i'm gonna go up here

this is the recap i'm laying it all down

for you guys

not specifically between neon and ray

but in general okay this is really

complicating it

proof of this is money

is money

his money

is money

because with money

money abstractly

exchange exchanges

for all goods and services

money abstracts from this

in exchanges for all goods and services

okay

and in this way

in that way what is being exchanged

between rey between

neon and ray what is being exchanged

between neon and ray

is the very social

what's the good word between neon and

rey

is some kind of

some kind of um

some kind of abstraction regards to

the goods

okay

so

so i'm not planning any of this all this

is coming out the top of my head so

bear with me guys so

um so some kind of abstraction which

means

the polity which prints

the money coin

coins right intervenes

already intervenes

somehow between them

between them

okay make sense

this is the recap so far

exchange exists because social relations

are determinate

and not given in order for us to enter

into some kind of relationship

we have to do so in a determinate way

the simplest type of exchange is

bartering

that but all but for when the narrow

perspective of bartering

the whole social relation is only

created by two individuals

entering into intercourse by means of

exchange

but this is not true because we're not

atomized individuals we belong to some

bigger

whole some bigger collective um

and these collectives enter into

determinate relations different policies

right that says i don't want to

complicate it too much

the proof of that is money right with

money

instead of just two individuals

exchanging goods

instead of just two individuals

exchanging goods you're exchanging

for goods what is a medium that

abstractly represents

all goods and services okay in this way

the polity intervenes in the

relationship

between the two individuals already

what the what this makes what this bears

witness to is the fact it is not just

two individuals

isolated from the social whole

what is being exchanged between these

two individuals

is the very um

the very determinate way in which the

social whole

abstractly denominated in money

represents all goods and services i know

that's really complicated

okay this is the recap so far any

questions before we move on

okay and we'll do the before and after

capitalism

let's just increase this because we have

some room to increase this

and we're gonna just take it

from the bottom okay

we're gonna yeah thanks for reminding me

um the thing about taxes i can't read

your name because it's in uh

japanese i think but

i'm not getting into why and how right

i'm not getting into that yet but yes

it's it's about taxes more or less from

a pragmatic perspective right

um but i don't want to complicate it

more you know i just want to make this

as simple as possible

but don't be fooled by your intuition

don't be fooled by your intuition

because as nietzsche's pointed out

money may be abstract

from all goods and services but

but

before capitalism

before capitalism all goods

and services

is a finite range

okay he's a finite range

you don't see it oh fuck cause i'm in

the way you're right

let me just get the fuck out of here

there you go see this

okay you don't need to see my whole head

i'll just i'll just be right here

okay um

the logo is not really blocking anything

i'm just gonna leave it here

okay on this last point about all goods

and services is a finite range

this is also true politically in modern

societies

the state has abstract power in the

pre-modern society

a polity does not have universally

abstract power

in the pre-modern society the state

the polity i should say is not a

hobbesian

you know total sovereign the range of

people and goods over which it exercises

dominion

is acknowledged to be finite okay

it's acknowledged to be finite

um now let's bridge this

let's bridge this what am i fucking

doing let's bridge this

to something else

okay let's ask a simple question i want

to ask you guys a question pick your

brains

but we're gonna move on this we're gonna

transition this way

okay

what is the abstraction

for which money

relates to commodities to

all commodities

relates to all commodities maybe i

should have explained the commodity form

first but that's okay we'll keep i'm

doing all to the top of my head okay

what is this abstraction what is the

uniquely modern

uniquely modern to all commodities

relates to all commodities in general

not only all commodities all possible

commodities

and not just all determinate commodities

all possible commodities and not just

all determinate

commodities okay

this is a question of metaphysics

it's a question of metaphysics okay

don't let this work intimidate you i

want to really simplify it

for which money relates to all possible

commodities not just the determinate

commodities

okay what do i mean by this

what do i mean by this this is our big

question and what do i mean by this

well

remember that pyramid

i just showed you no america's a fuck

i'm not gonna write this i'm just gonna

show it to you do you guys remember how

i brought up the illuminati pyramid on

the dollar

and i said there's a reason for this

remember that

why is this on the dollar it's true for

all money in general

but why is this on the dollar the

all-seeing eye

why is this on the dollar because

the all-seeing eye what is it seeing

money is an all-seeing eye

money is an all-seeing eye which

sees all goods

services for which it exchanges

that's why

that's the connection there so i want

you guys get this in your head

money is an all-seeing eye which sees

all goods

services for which it exchanges okay

that's why there's this eye on the i

that's my take on it at least that's how

i think about it

at least okay

for which it exchanges but

but

okay but

neat it's not just that money is our god

money is the

concrete realization of god in the world

we're gonna get to it guys this stuff

goes deep okay i'm telling you this

stuff goes deep

we're just scratching the surface right

now okay we're just scratching the

surface

okay and i'm simplifying it

but crucially all goods and services

all goods and services

is not a finite range series

but all

possible goods and services

in general

but infinitely all

in general what does that mean

what does that mean

what does that mean

what does that mean guys what does that

mean

nice marxian flip what do you mean by

that

what does this mean okay

infinitely all possible goods and

services in general what this means

paradoxically

a paradox paradoxically

money is an all seeing eye

but also

absolutely blind to specific

and determinate to specific

commodities it sees all and it is also

also blind to all

what does that remind you of what does

that remind you of

does that remind you of anything

does this remind you of anything guys i

want to see if anyone gets this

tell me if this reminds you of anything

i'm going to show it to you right now

i can't stop raving i can't stop raven

sorry

um i'm gonna show you ready

ready sec it's gonna be a surprise

can i do this insert

can you insert shit into paint or no

file no you can't

okay fuck it's okay it's okay sorry

let's go back

let's go back it's okay we're just gonna

do this

this is what i wanted to show you

what does that remind you of okay just

in case you guys lost it

um here it is

okay so what i just show you money is an

all-seeing eye

but also absolutely blind to specific

commodities

it sees all and it is blind to all

what is that what that's a paradox right

what does that remind you of it should

remind you of this

right here right the law the state in

modernity

after modernity the rule of law

blind justice we're talking about the

exact same things here guys

these are all the same fucking thing you

understand

where these are all the same fucking

thing

before modernity it's not the case

before modernity the all-seeing eye

sees a finite range after modernity

the all-seeing eye is all in general

abstractly

you see connection makes sense

good good good good you guys are getting

it you guys are getting it

you guys understanding i'm glad

okay this makes it click me good

good that's exactly what i'm aiming for

it's exactly what i'm aiming for

okay good

see i wasn't going to enter conspiracy

territory it's as simple as that

money is an all-seeing eye but it's also

absolutely specific blind

so let's go back to this question of

metaphysics

there are some theological underpinnings

theological underpinnings

correlations at least we don't want to

speak about causes because we're

materialists here right

but there's at least some correlations

to this modernity theologically

specifically

the protestant theology

ontology what are some things you guys

know about protestant theology and

ontology

what are some things you guys know well

theologically

what is the nature of god and

protestantism and

speaking on ontology what is the nature

of being in protestantism right

in protestantism

god is blind

god is blind

um arbitrary

cruel but just

i'm butchering this i know this is not

unique to protestants specifically but

just let this click something in your

head at least right

i'm kind of this is not i can i could

put it a lot better than this right this

is not my best

you know i didn't plan any of this this

is off the top of my head yeah wrathful

right this all wraps back to anglos it

does

the dutch and the anglos it absolutely

does ss1

i'm not even kidding about it it

actually does

and it's not like an anti-anglo-racism

okay on ontologically

this is the most important part a world

a world of total depravity

you guys know what this means a world of

total depravity

it means it means

it means

fuck okay it means

everything is depraved by virtue of

being material

doesn't matter what it is

you guys see see the connection

these are precedence to the abstraction

that gives rise to modernity what we

call

modern abstractionism modernity

you guys have you heard of modern art

guys what defines modern art

you guys know what defines modern art

abstraction

you understand

you guys starting to connect dots here

or what

and then we this is not even the

esoteric part great gaddafi the esoteric

part is when i trace it

to gnosticism and i show how gnosticism

gives rise to both protestantism and

renaissance humanism

and the medici banking family and what

they were doing in

with france and how these different it's

it's fucking crazy it's fucking crazy

when you when you

wrap all this together but i'm not going

to even go there but that's this is not

the esoteric part greg

these are just connections i want to

make want you guys to make in your head

abstraction for its own sake

ss1 baby i'm pinning your comment

that's what we're dealing with here

that's what we're dealing with here

he just said it the guy just said it

he just said it he just said it

the ontologization of abstraction

negation

abstraction for its own sake

negation for its own sake

you guys get it

modern art is the not the imitation

right rather the imitation of

abstraction

this is the point guys because

because abstraction is nothing new

abstraction in nothing nothing new

all societies are have abstraction

this is what is unique

right here this is what is unique

in a sense abstraction

and negation becomes

ontologized as its own type of god

in a sense it becomes worshipped

abstraction and negation itself in

general in the abstract

period that's how you think about

modernity

and you can tie it back to protestant

theology you can tie it back

to gnosticism but i don't want to get

into agnosticism because it's too five

head right

we're just gonna no the post don't worry

about post-modernism

okay it's a it's a term that's thrown

around most of the time people are

talking about post-modernism is bullshit

okay but this is what's unique to

modernity

right here the ontologization of

abstraction negation for its own

sake see that for its own sake

now that's a funny thing

that's a funny thing that's

a funny thing

that's a funny thing why is that a funny

thing guys

tell me why that's a funny thing

wait i kind of see how this ties in

agnosticism good you i i hope you guys

whoever can already see it

good for you um but i'm not going to get

into it as i'm trying to say how many

levels of philosophy are you on you seem

like a little

you seem like a little kid i don't know

what you're saying

modernity is post majority at this point

don't worry about these terms

but what i just said is a funny thing

abstraction for its own sake

and negation for its own sake that's a

funny thing

because how can abstraction

or negation itself be real

somehow real

how can abstraction or negation

itself somehow be real

devoid of any content determine its

content

itself be real

now agnosticism also seems reality is

inherent yes exactly that's this one you

get it

you get it it's pretty much that but i

don't want to get into it too much more

than that

but this is a funny thing what i just

deleted before and i showed you

how can abstraction or negation

devoid of any determinate content itself

somehow be real for a marxist

or dialect

thinker it can't but

what can it do

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what can it do this

this metaphysical position this posture

what can it do

what can it do guys this blindness i'm

talking about

to reality it's utter complete uh

blindness

what can it do we know that it can't

itself somehow be real

if we're marxist and if we're

dialectical thinkers and for marxist and

dialectical thinkers

you have the rising from the abstract to

the concrete every abstraction only

disguises

a concrete of some kind

so this metaphysical posture we would

say is wrong but

even if it's wrong in practical terms

what did it do

historically what can it do

it can free us from prejudices

we have we have about

the nature of determinate being

you want to know what's also tied to

this guys because everything ties

together if you're a dialectic thinker

modern science what is modern science

if not this same blindness according to

modern science science

nature is the world of protestant total

depravity it is utterly and completely

indifferent and blind to us

humans and the the main thing that we

have to do scientifically is

excise from the investigation into

nature our human biases and prejudices

right these are all the same thing when

i said i reject modern science guys

i wasn't doing it from the chakra

perspective i'm literally doing it from

the dialectic perspective this is why

because

for dialectics

this can't be real but for modern

science

only abstraction or negation is actually

real

i'm simplifying shit no my butt hurts

science

but understand why i'm saying what i'm

saying okay

and i'm trying to simplify this

okay even though

it can't be real it can free us from

prejudices we have

but the nature of determinate being and

now i want to ask you guys this question

what are examples of this prejudice

what are examples of this prejudice

well we just talked about pre-capitalist

societies

and why they are technologically

stagnant

aren't those examples of a prejudice

they're examples of prejudices

about the nature of determinate being

as eternal unchanging

and fixed

you guys follow me here so far or what

some of you guys follow

it's a delay so

waiting for cricket stripping

not seeing nothing

follow follow

you get it very rude you get it two

people saying they follow no one else

gets it

you get it neat anyone else three people

get it so far

you guys is the professor i used to have

i actually like this professor but he'd

always be like

do you guys follow am i speaking in vain

am i speaking in vain or what

you guys following

druck yep

okay like five people say they get it

i don't know what that the fuck else the

30 people watching this are doing

um in the chat well i know i don't know

if there's 30 people in the chat but i

know there's more people in the chat

actually there's not one two three four

five

six there's only six people in chat

right now that's fine

so everyone who's in chat says they get

it apparently okay we can move on

okay all right let's move on

now we can understand

we're gonna move on for money right now

briefly we're gonna move on for money

very briefly i cannot control z

this so here's what i'm gonna do get rid

of it like that right

what do you mean by prejudices good okay

good

okay what do i mean by prejudices

should i bring the money back okay what

i mean by prejudice is neat

is i basically mean

the determinate universality this is a

loaded phrase term

before modernity that privileged

one type of supreme ontology or

relationship to being

one metaphysical posture if you will

um which is why before capitalism there

was no change basically well there was

change but there was no uh modern change

what's up hero how you doing

um hero come from turkey what's up man

um

there was no uh there was change

there was um

there was uh revolutions in the forces

of production

but they were not initiated from this

kind of

in this rapid and individual way like in

capitalism

so if we're blind to all reality needs

that also means we can be open to

everything reality can be

and has offered if we're blind to

reality

we don't have prejudices in relationship

to reality

then we can be open to all the different

kinds of possibilities in relationship

to reality

think of the epistemology of modern

science according to modern science if

we don't have biases

and if we let go of our prejudices then

we can discover the true nature

of nature or being right

if we have those prejudices then they're

going to distort

and obfuscate our ability to relate to

nature or being right isn't that the

point of modern science

so similar to modern science and we're

all talking about the same thing here

when you're talking about modern science

modern law

modern capitalism it's all the same

thing ultimately

okay it's all the same thing

um isn't that how liberals view

culture too liberals view culture in the

same way according to liberals

we are biased in our culture okay

because our cultural biases blinds us

from treating uh from uh

discovering the new malleable cultural

whatever

realities that we can we can establish

and create

and to do this requires us to be

unbiased

modern liberal subjects

who are abstracted from our communities

and families and all this kind of stuff

you get it so this is elementary

modernity okay

now we're going to move on to the

commodity

commodity i'm going to do this very

briefly this is going to be nowhere near

as long

and i'm only doing this so we can return

to money

the other money part this one's gonna be

really quick

commodity now it's a simple question

what is a commodity

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it's simple

what is a commodity guys

commodities a very simple thing

actually very simple

well it's so good night see you later mr

cyber cyber shout out mr cyber cyber

he's coming from russia

um so he's it's late i guess see you

later man

appreciate you being here um

okay uh what is a commodity it's very

simple

okay why do i represent commodities as

boxes

why do i do that

something to exchange nope not quite a

good

yes but let's be more specific what is a

commodity

a commodity is a form

it is a form a form

you see commodity is a form

no no more simply it's a form

more simply let's be more simple about

it

it's a form okay

what so what

what is it that turns

some type of content some content

grain into a form

this is our question for this little

part

what is it that turns a content some

content some material thing

into a form commodity form

well first of all a commodity

begins and ends

with something

defining it so

you have our

this is how i'm gonna represent

formlessness

this little squiggly line okay this is

the

piece of grain this is the grain

okay no i'm not talking about labor yet

we're not getting into labor

we're gonna we're coming at this from

the bottom

um don't worry about later begins with

something defining it

not labor no maybe in actual reality

it's what defines it

like in material reality but i'm talking

about in terms of

as insofar as it's a commodity and for

it to be a commodity it has to be

recognized

superficially my mind took a tangent

thinking of protestant

sola fidescillo subscription in relation

to this where justification is adherence

to a standard of belief not through

individual acts

exactly bearer rooted why why is that

though bearer because

through our individual acts we're

already sinful in this world of total

depravity

there you go that's the difference

between protestantism and catholicism

by the way guys i'm gonna drop this in

here food for thought

what was the french revolution if not a

return to catholicism the french

revolution returned to

man as a determinant material reality

and the british saw the french

revolution the british protestants and

they said

no the french are metaphysically

um they're metaphysically too partial

and prejudiced

the british said because according to

the anglo-metaphysics

the absolute the god whatever the thing

is completely abstract blind from any

humanity from any

uh determinate form whatsoever so

the english are anti-humanistic

that's the kind of philosophical or

metaphysical struggle going on with

the french revolution in the napoleonic

wars just some food for thought right

i'm kind of going off on a tangent

um okay

so begins and ends with something begins

so

begins here i know this looks stupid and

ends right begins and ends with

something

premise and conclusion premise

and conclusion

premise and conclusion not an idea no

premise and conclusion of some kind

right what is the premise and conclusion

that gives rise

to the commodity form well

it's very simple the first question you

have to ask

is

first question maybe the only question

you gotta ask

is how is the commodity form

measured how is this form measured

how is this form measured

it's simple it's measured through

currency see

through this this little guy

what we represent is currency right

currency right

this is measured

with this ugly

there you go how's it measured with this

so but what does this presuppose what

did we just say

before do you guys remember what we said

money is remember

the abstraction we just talked about the

division

the polities authority and dominion over

reality

right how does that dominion exercised

because the polity

inserts itself as both the premise

and the conclusion of material reality

sorry of all over all of being the

premise and the conclusion

and this don't dwell too deep until

there's so many fucking arrows

this is the commodity form the commodity

form

is represented in terms of the currency

do you guys commodity form make sense

or no

makes sense so far this is pretty much

all i want to say about commodities

tell me what you guys think

make sense

one guy said yeah i had to go back to

your take on the french revolution and

it's kind of an anglo take why is it an

angle take kermis

yeah i just got here

currency is like a plague makes sense

okay most of you guys understand it

makes sense apparently

kermis why is it an anglo take explain

explain before i get to money

this is our next thing we gotta do

miss the definition of what

karma's hurry everyone's waiting we're

losing viewers

viewers dropping off hurry before i'm at

five viewers

i hate the delay so much man you know i

really want there to be a feature where

there's just an easy way to like

pull you into my stream you know

pull someone in the chat into the stream

i'm having trouble verbalizing so give

me a moment

okay i'm gonna set up money though

while i wait so we're just going to set

this up while we wait

money

what is this little thingy commodity

don't worry about it just

all this is gonna rope together the fuck

is

so basically something you put money

into to get more money out of

that's not how i define it at all i

simply said a commodity is a form

a form begins with a premise and a

conclusion

the premise in the conclusion here is

represented abstractly as the polity

the polity you understand google

hangouts to the future

so the commodity form is defined

by the way in which the polity is

abstracted

out of the people land and things

it exercises dominion over

i know that's a lot of words

but bear with me here it's all gonna

rope together

here we go what the fuck is this thing

this is our little question right here

what the fuck is this thing

okay

okay i'm just going to wait for kerm i'm

going to i'm going to just

go you know i'm encouraged when you type

it i'll i'll get back to you

when i see it in the chat i'll i'll just

stop what i'm doing okay what the fuck

is this little thing right here

right here this third part of

mcm remember guys what we're working

with

we're working with mcm let me pull up

mcm

let me pull up mcm where is it

where the fuck is it

where the fuck is it man can't believe i

lost it

here it is right here

this is our original image we're working

with

and do i have a way to capturing the

image

photos

me just open this in

fuck it i'm just going to show you this

i have no way of showing it to you

okay that's okay we'll save it for later

i'll open it later okay

this is like heidegger for dummies kind

of

i actually got all of that okay

can't look at this right now okay i

can't pull up the picture but

we're gonna what is capital right mcm

this is the third component we covered

the first two

this is the third a big part of the

french revolution was about rejecting

that anyone is better than anyone else

from the birthright or being

chosen by god

right but that's but also kiram is it

was also about

recognition of man as

a as an actual reality now this man

might be abstract man

universal man but before the french

revolution there was no man there was

just the world of protestant total

depravity

that's where i'm coming from okay sorry

um

what is this little fucking thingy what

is this

we just talked about commodities sorry

we're just talking about money and we

just talked about commodity right

it's all related by the way what is this

little thingy

well it's more money

simple right it's more money

it's more money more money

now here's here's the toughest part for

me

because i'm doing this all the top of my

head and we gotta rope this

all together back with the original

thing so the first thing we're gonna

think is

okay

okay right okay

yeah i know it's a prime symbol okay

okay

more money means

money taken from somewhere else

true though isn't it true

at least we think so according to our

common sense

money taken from somewhere else which

means

we're going to go back to neon and ray

our friends neon and ray

so we have the capitalist now

neon right here and we got

the other capitalist now rey

you got ray right here

you understand so

who's got this little m right

m

means that

rey had let's say

um three dollars

okay ray had four dollars

god what the fuck is this notification

ray had

four dollars and there's four dollars in

total circulation

remember guys at any given moment the

amount of currency

we just talked about as money is finite

that is in circulation at any given

moment

the amount of currency in circulation is

finite

when there was the gold standard it was

almost eternally finite

with bitcoin they want to make it

eternally finite with only

a cap on 20 million with fiat they can

always print more

but if you freeze time and stop

time at any given moment there's always

a finite amount of currency in

circulation

we all know that right okay

so if if this little thingy means more

money

what that means is that neon right here

as you can see um

neon i'm just gonna put this right here

neon

had let's say the total amount of money

in circulation

is five okay let me just

do this make a little quick

representation

um

salt bucks because these are the two

saltiest people we have on our channel

these are salt bucks only five exists

remember the amount of money in

circulation is always finite okay

only five in circulation so

here's what happens neon

right here

and rey right here right

neon invests his little money

into something

more or less this is how it's going to

work this is how it works right

he invests his money into something

in order to get more money but that

money has to come from somewhere if the

amount of money in circulation is finite

and it's going to come from rey for

example

right

this is the commodity

that's what happens right this is the

mcm

make sense mcm

so he invested his little salt buck

into a commodity and in return

ray gave him or someone gave him somehow

remember the amount of money is finite

so someone's a loser here he's getting

rey's

salt buck now he has two and ray has

three

so the proportion changed proportion

changed

portion changed you understand

is this what marx is getting at

is this what marx is getting at in his

theory of value

is this the meaning of capital for marx

well this is definitely what it's

initially going to look like

right but when it comes to

modern capitalism modern industrial

capitalism

the story doesn't end here the story

doesn't end here

okay because wouldn't neon give one

bucks for the commodity

yeah but that gave that made him he got

a profit from that some oh you're right

you're right he got two of them

sorry you're 100 right he got two of

them

yeah he put in one for a commodity ray

gave him two guys you know what's going

on with the trade imbalances between

countries this is something that's

happening between countries

you want to know what's going on with

these trade wars it's more or less this

fact

there's only a there's a finite amount

of money in circulation basically i'm

really simplifying it

a finite instantiation of value

but for marx ultimately

this is not enough this is all true

this is all true here right but the

story doesn't end here for marx

for marx why is that

for marx

but for marx

the

is surplus value

no it's not technically the same as

surplus value is

is a proxy for surplus value

okay

surplus value

but how can there be a surplus

how can there be a surplus

when there is merely a change

change of proportion

change in proportion sorry

right guys isn't this an interesting

question

why does marks represent it as a surplus

value

when there's merely at the individual

level of a capitalist

a change in the total proportion of

money

isn't this a good question or not what

do you think

would you guys ask this question i never

see anyone ask this question

how can there be a surplus when there is

merely a change in proportion

well here's the reason why this this

thinking is flawed

here's the reason why this question

misunderstands marx

here's the problem with this forget

about the workers leonardo i'm not

talking about labor and i'm not talking

about workers right now

that's this don't don't ever speak in

ideological terms

forget ideology we want to bring up the

workers

because we have a political agenda to

say that the workers create all value

and then we can run home and say yeah

you know no no no

forget labor forget workers totally

forget it totally

i don't want you to think about workers

i don't want you to think about labor

none of that we're going back to the

basics from scratch

okay then we'll get into workers

things just don't pop into existence

from thought kyram is but we're not

talking about how they come into

existence

we're speaking from the perspective of a

capitalist or a layman

we're not going to involve labor we're

not going to involve workers

yet because how society's allocate labor

no

the fact that money came x nihilo no

no here's the reason why the question

misunderstands marks

this is what i want to drive home before

we talk about workers

and before we talk about labors i want

to drive this point home

the question is individualistic

the question is individualistic

question is individualistic you

understand the problem now

the question is individualistic

because

for marx

ultimately

ultimately ultimately

m c

m

is at the scale

of the polity not individuals

what is the implication of this

no it's very simple we just

established that at the individual level

what's going on with mcm

is that neon put his

salt box into a commodity

in turn selling that commodity

yielded him two to

salt bucks he got his m

right here right so the question is

why do we speak of surplus value and why

do we speak of

m this little thingy right here

when there has been merely a change in

proportion

the reason this is a wrong question and

wrong way of looking at it is because

it's individualistic because mcm is not

simply happening at the neons level

it is yes but for marx

ultimately it is happening at the scale

of the polity

not individuals so

a quick aside different ways of in some

ways

some ways people look at this

specifically nick land

nick land

some ways people have looked at this

nick land means that no it's simple as

this

for nick

for land

money is forwarded into

technological means of production

technological means of production

and the revolution in the forces

of production is the source of surplus

is the source of the surplus value

surplus value

this is why it's not merely a

proportional change for nick land

for someone like nickline for example

and i'm sure there's others who

interpret it this way

for him money is forwarded into

technological means of production

research and science

i know i'm botching it shit i'm trying

to simplify it

and this is the source of surplus value

what is the source of the surplus value

instead of a merely proportional change

merely proportional change

value new value

and new wealth is created

by a change in reality itself

technological change

you guys understand this way of looking

at it as a way to solve the previous

question

even though at individual levels

it just seems like the proportion of the

total money supply is just being

redistributed at some fundamental level

there is more value being created

okay at the left scale of society as a

whole

not the individual but society as a

whole the way people like nick land

understand it

is the change in the technological means

of production

and that revolution in the forces of

production is the source of the surplus

value

more or less instead of a merely

proportional change

new value and new wealth is created

by a change in reality itself

technological change because that kind

of change is tangible

if there's no technological change then

the amount

and quality of goods and services is

going to remain constant over time

but if there's a change in the very

nature of reality

that's going to reflect in terms of

value

does this imply that if there is no

technological change there is no surplus

value robert according to this landian

view

the nick land view but doesn't things

like automation should make surplus

smaller

i think land uh rejects that view i

agree with your view neat i'm gonna

explain why i disagree with land

but let's just state to land's view his

view is that this not true

for nick land automation and constant

technological revolution in the forces

of production

makes capitalism infinite infinite

for him they're talking about you on

lefty pull again

do i have my own thread there no if if

infrared has its own thread we can go

check it out soon

if not i don't know if i want to sift

through the whole thing um

doesn't that make automation should make

surplus smaller

fucking i'm curious let's go on left

people lefty poor

i'm curious uh doesn't that make

automation no i don't

guys what do you think vote in the chat

what do you think i'm gonna create a

poll

how do i create a pool can i

can i can i create a pool no i can't

fuck i can't create a pool guys

no okay i'm not gonna go on that fucking

website fuck it okay

i don't care all right

don't worry i'm not gonna do it i'm not

gonna do it

we're gonna stay on track okay

um don't go

nothing interesting being said there

okay okay does this imply that there's

no

it's okay it doesn't imply that because

now there's some issues

with land's view well maybe not

but i want to add something to lands

view okay

i want to add something to land's view

that's not there before

um actually

uh and i think land himself knows that

the revolution in the forces of

production

is not happening at an individual level

so let me just put this here

right um

actually let's get rid of all this you

guys can always go back and

just look at it right

this revolution in the forces of

production

is not happening at an individual level

it's not happening at an individual

level

meaning

one capitalist okay putting this here

this is something you got to bear in

mind

um something you got to bear in mind

individual capitalists

capitalists do not create

revolutions in the forces of production

or the necessary technological

change that could possibly correspond

to surplus value

why is this by the way why is this

how does land define surplus value i

don't want to put words into his mouth

i'm just telling you how i read land

right

for me uh i don't know if he agrees with

the word surplus value at all

but for him roughly speaking it's the

revolution in the forces of production

that is the reason why there's a surplus

being created

rather than just a finite amount of

value in circulation

land completely gets rid of labor from

the equation

i mean there's a real accumulation of

things though yes

but if there's an accumulation of only

things

um then at a certain point

this will not correspond to a real

qualitative change only a quantitative

one

eugenics that's quantitative change not

qualitative

the mere quantitative change that you're

talking about

puts a cap eventually will put a cap on

the amount of

surplus value is being created and the

reason for that eugenics kuhn

there's a specific reason for that

eugenics clinton monetary is

okay monetary systems are difficult

because money to i know

dude don't get into all this shit you're

just gonna confuse me i know

okay i know i know don't get into fiat

and all this complicated shit you're

just

way gonna complicate it derail it way

too much

all i'm gonna tell you is that at a

certain point

the manner by which those this

quantitative change

can be registered at the level of

qualitative commodity form

reaches a limit in other words it

becomes a type of

bad infinity in which it's the crisis of

overproduction described by marx

it's the crisis of overproduction but i

don't want to introduce

all these terms and all these phrases

and all these ideas because we're

nowhere near that yet

okay so let's not get ahead of ourselves

and let's just focus on this right now

because i'm trying to make this as

simple as possible okay

let's not get ahead of ourselves do you

don't fill in the blanks

500 steps forward because those could be

wrong

there may be premises you're not

thinking about let's just focus on this

very simple

thing we're on and if you're not

following me say so and i'll clarify

i want us to begin at a simple level

focus on things

way more simply okay

individual capitalists do not okay

individual capitalists do not create

revolutions in the forces of production

they don't they don't

they don't because

this can only happen the scale

the scale at which

this revolution

is possible

scale at which this revolution is

possible in the forces of production

this tech revolution is possible

can only encompass

society polity as a whole

it's a historical it is a historical

revolution it is a historical

revolution why

why why is it only a historical

revolution and it's not a revolution

that's merely happening

for example i'm a capitalist right and

i'm forwarding money

into uh goods

and yielding a profit is what the

capitalist is doing let's represent it

this way

i'm gonna we're gonna go back to neon or

someone

until i find a better name to use okay

now when you have neon here

capitalist

okay

um

capitalist he's gonna forward some money

he's going to forward some money

into

commodities some type of

commodity to yield

he had four so we're gonna do five

this is his surplus right here

because technological innovations happen

through society as well i know but we

have to get to why there is some

planning going on

not quite that's not quite the reason

actually it's actually a lot more simple

okay and it's like this right

m

c and

m right

now in so far

has has gotten triggered yet no not yet

but our viewers are dropping off so i

don't know if

i should continue too far you know i

might i might want to put a cap on this

soon

um okay so

m is this surplus right here

in so far as this is a real surplus

and not merely a reallocation of the

finite money supply

insofar as that's the case then

this capitalist guy must

be reaping the rewards

of something of

something that already happened this is

where i'm kind of

losing a little bit but i need to

explain it more

that already happened

no dislikes either that's crazy now yet

all the baiters

are hiding on some albanian website

the fuck does that even mean um must be

reaping the rewards of something

that already happened okay

for this to be real

surplus it must be reaping the rewards

of something that already happened that

something

can be technology

right for example the factory or

a technology or whatever that's allowing

this to happen

but it has to have already happened

if it's in the process of happening

you're talking about a loss

he's not going to make a profit that's

why

interestingly

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interestingly

interestingly interestingly

big tech companies

interestingly big tech companies

google amazon etc

interestingly big tech companies will

forward

will forward investment

into technological

research

initially

initially at a loss so many of these big

tech companies

even begin at a loss elon musk

who actually you can maybe be said to be

saying creating

directly creating new um technologies

he's initially going to be operating at

a loss henry ford might have been the

first example of this type of

american capitalist but the british one

so to speak does not create revolutions

in the forces of production they merely

benefit from one that had already

occurred in a previous point in time

now the henry ford and the elon musk's

and the googles and amazons

they do in fact maybe

take risks with a new technology or

forward investments into technological

research

but they only do so in so far as they

are already up

in a sense operating beyond 19th century

capitalism the

the abstraction that's relevant for marx

this is why i call

the american century a socialistic

century this is also why i disagree with

nick land's view

to me but

but caveat

to me the flaw in nickland's view

to me

to me the flaw in land's view

is that

is that he does not properly define

revolution in the forces of production

the for example

corporations do invest in something

called technological

innovation but is this a true but are

these true

yet

okay sorry i'm gonna organize this more

simplify for you guys

technological innovation

but these epic cycles of

of technological

change do not offset

offset the tendency for the

rate of profit to fall

nor do they correspond to a true

revolution in the forces of production

they merely bear witness to one that had

already

occurred isn't the word tech

a little strange you guys do you find

the word

tech a little strange or what

fortism most of the digital economy is

rent okay let's not get there

xanther let's not get there let's not

get ahead of ourselves let's just focus

on this

the flaw in lens view he doesn't

properly define the revolution the

forces of production

corporations do invest in something

called technological change

but these epic cycles of technological

change that we're witnessing whether

through government investment or through

corporate investment

do not offset the falling rate of profit

nor do they correspond

to a true revolution in the forces of

production they merely again

bear witness to one that had already

occurred

let's elaborate on that a little bit

well we really are in some deep water we

have to elaborate on it right

um if we leave it like that we haven't

really made any kind of argument

okay um sorry this is all off the top of

my head guys none of this is planned so

please bear with

bear with me if i'm gonna have a little

brain fart

yes the military and the government do a

truthful medal you're right

but we're at the issue of time right now

we're at the issue of

the view of reading marxist capital from

the perspective of time

this is where there's a flaw for there

to be surplus value

the thing that gives rise to surplus

value had to have already happened

before

a capitalist or a government or a

corporation

does not does not listen

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mcm

does not properly correspond at the

individual level

to let's say um

value uh

value let's say tech

labor etc

surplus value see my point

at an individual level there's a

discontinuity

there's a discontinuity there is a

discontinuity

between these two

this happens at an individual level this

merely reallocates

at the individual level is what i'm

talking about this one

at the individual level merely

reallocates

the finite amount of value that's

already in circulation this one

is expressed only at the level of the

aggregate according to marx

this one is only expressed at the

aggregate level according to marx

what that means is that the aggregate

total of profits being made

across society as a whole is the only

manifestation and expression

of this circuit value and then labor

tech however you want to look at it and

surplus value

that's only being expressed at the

aggregate level at the individual level

it's not being expressed

this is a really important point about

marx's capital

this is exactly why all of the

controversies in marx's capital

exist the transformation problem the um

what's another big one transformation is

like the biggest one right

um what are some other problems i forget

the other ones there's the

transformation problem there's

whatever it all goes back to the

discontinuity between

these two people make the mistake of

assuming there's no discontinuity

by the way guys this is the same reason

why americans individualize capitalism

they say

google engineers are workers prostitutes

are workers

who everyone's you know they don't they

individualize it and they don't

understand that this is happening at

some kind of aggregate

macro level historical level okay

but we're going to qualify we just kind

of went on a little bit of a detour

beforehand we're gonna qualify what we

said before

what we said before was that

fuck what did i say before science

technology gives capital a power of

expansion independent of the given

magnitude of capital actually

functioning it kind of confuses me let's

i don't want to distract myself okay i

want to focus on what i was trying to

get at

get into um okay the epicycle thing yeah

that's right

okay um the reason why this doesn't

course this doesn't offset the falling

rate of profit

um a falling rate of profit

uh what was i getting to at least was i

trying to think

what was i thinking what was i trying to

delete that and put

uh bear with me guys all this is coming

off the top of my head and i

trust me i know what i'm doing but i get

brain farts and i forget

lose my train of thought um let's just

roll with this so far

okay okay

um the

okay okay this is what i wanted to get

into sorry i just remembered

what is this buzzword

technology and innovation

these are epic cycles domesticated

by corporate institutions and big

tech google

amazon etc this is what i wanted to get

to

furthering the critique just remembered

it see guys

if i have brain fog it's not because i'm

bluffing i literally are just forgetting

discontinuity between one base mango

there's a discontinuity between

money commodity money at the level of

the individual capitalist

and value um

labor or technology however you want to

look at it in the landing view or the

classical marxist view

and surplus value these are not the same

thing

one of them is expressed only at the

aggregate level of a polity or society

as a whole

the other one is expressed only at the

level of an individual

capitalist okay

that's the issue that is the issue at

the heart

of contemporary marxism it's literally

this it's literally that discontinuity

okay that's the transformation problem

too at its essence

that's the essence of the transformation

issue buzzwords are very common in the

corporate sector yes

but what is this really referring to

well

it is not

it is not technology

or innovation in the abstract

do not be fooled

do not be fooled by the buzzwords

they they have not captured the essence

of transformations in the forces of

production

technology and innovation as a buzzword

is referring to something actually very

specific

and historically specific

what it actually means what it actually

is referring to is

is more or less cybernetics

a paradigm a

began after world war ii

okay heidegger has something about

technology and cybernetics all this kind

of stuff

but there is no reason to think that

these corporations

and these big tech companies have

actually arrived at the essence of what

technology or innovation or revolutions

and the forces of production are

why why

right let's get to why

okay

why why

we're gonna get to this why the reason

is because

a revolution in the forces

of production happens

at the furthest threshold defining

mankind's

or a polity relation to nature

and itself as a whole

okay uber didn't fucking do that

google doesn't fucking do that the

newest iphone

doesn't fucking do that because

from top to bottom because the real

revolution in the forces of production

happens at

from the top to bottom at the level of

anthro anthropocene

geological level today today

this is geological level

this is geological level

our deepest our geological and

ecological level

the deepest possible relation to both

nature

and mankind equality

is actually has

this is some really complicated shit so

i i am expecting

some of you guys to at least ask me to

elaborate on this because i don't really

think everyone's just gonna get what

this means at first

on the one hand google can invest

money and funds into innovation research

what google cannot do

is initiate voluntarily a fundamental

revolution in the forces of production

that happens at the deepest and most

fundamental material level in which

mankind possesses some kind of

relationship to both nature

and itself in what sense in relationship

to nature

technology is a revolution the forces of

production how production organized

no it's

it's a revolution in the forces of

production which means

how uh how organizations society's

organization for example

and institutions relate to people

how are people and institutions and the

organization

related the second one is how is

our um how is our uh

technique our technology and our

society related to nature to nature

itself

this is something that is primary that

we can only relate to

consciously as actors as modern subjects

after it has already happened

we cannot voluntarily initiate um

a revolution in the forces of production

we cannot

we can only presuppose one that has

already existed

and the reason for that is because it's

an epistemological problem

in order okay it's an okay i don't want

to complicate this too much

but it's an epistemological problem

epistemological problem

fuck

okay here's the issue

for us to be able to

to voluntarily

voluntarily initiate revolution

in the forces of production this assumes

we know

we can be aware of the possible

threshold

so sorry we can be aware of the very

range

of possibility that defines mankind's

relation to nature this is the prejudice

of modern science

modern science thinks this i think it's

wrong you can't

you can only do it in a kind of vacuum

sealed environment

but on this deeper level this is a very

high targaryen point

you can never be pre-emptively aware it

can only sneak up on you

and this is a kind of more complicated

philosophical point

it can only happen already

after it happens then we can think about

it

it defines mankind's relation to nature

in reality the true revolution in the

forces

of production

true revolution in the forces of

production

um the true revolution in the forces of

production

happens happens

first true evolution in the forces of

production sorry

is the one that redefines

our uh knowledge

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of the range of possibility in the first

place

this is how it's simplified actually

right here this little big paragraph

read this guy's paragraph

this is how i put it

for us to be able to voluntarily

initiate revolution in the forces of

production

this assumes we can be aware of the very

range of possibility

okay the range of possibility

that defines mankind's relationship to

nature so for example

i'm a scientist and google is our

engineer google is funding me to

innovate to make products

but if i'm a scientist then i am limited

my for example my my hypothesis my

imagination is limited

okay a true revolution in the forces of

production

increases the threshold of what it is we

consider possible

and impossible but if i'm just a

scientist

or an engineer or some kind of tech guy

i can't actually initiate a real change

in the forces of

uh production i can only work with what

has

already been established by president as

possible

now you can say well you can engage in

experimentations

you're right i can engage in

experimentations new experimentations

to um to uh

how do you say it to disturb

to touch upon the range of possibility

but even the range of what i consider

possible experimentally

is finite and limited by the true

threshold defining mankind's

relationship to nature

and uh and itself that's my point

even that's my that's why i reject

modern science to me modern science

thinks

and the paradigm of technology thinks

that in general

by experimenting it can arrive at truly

novel

insights to me the novel insights

arrived at by modern science are already

predefined

by a definite historical threshold that

are merely being wrought

out

there is no true modern science that

really establishes a most fundamental

relation between

mankind and nature the heideggerian

point would be that our relationship to

nature

comes first in its primary we can only

react to it and reap the fruits and

rewards of it

okay this was a big detour about nick

land

this is some ways people look at it

technological change

so after all this critique i know this

is not satisfactory

this is an introduction stream guys it's

an introduction stream

okay

this is an introduction stream um

this is an introduction stream

ultimately

ultimately it is not only

not only superficial technological

change that gives rise

that gives rise that gives rise to

a true surplus value

it is a change the change is also

uh let's say historical

historical change

ontological or metaphysical

physical change

ontological or metaphysical demonic

people

deimos demotic

relation between

relation between institutions and the

people

uh and what else am i missing uh

epistemic threshold defining range of

possibility

uh what is possible

in physical reality uh

relation to nature to nature

finally technological

technology is the icing on the cake of

all this

you see

this is what we're talking about when

we're talking about

the real revolution in the forces of

production that gives rise to the

surplus

okay so in conclusion

there's way more i have to say on this

but this is just the introduction

and we will say more on it another time

i don't know if it'll be next stream

it depends on demand if the chat demands

more i'll give the chat what they want

if people watching this want more we'll

give them what they want

but wrapping up we're going to wrap this

up

um wrapping up

m c m

can be very misleading

because it

can be very misleading because

of the assumption it implies via

language

of sequence of

temporal sequence

in reality

more and more more you probably never

read any marks

chaz daz the fucking idiot comes on my

stream to troll me

he just wants to troll me whatever what

do you have to say chaz daz

before before i wrap this up what do you

have to say chazz daz explain how i

never read marx

i've never read any marks i've never

read any marks you fucking idiot

chaz that is you fucking moron

who is this guy how do i go on his

profile

someone link me his pr send me on

twitter his profile

we're gonna look at his profile

whose chaz does

you've probably never read any marks

chad's dad's asking for it but show me

who his profile is

send me and twitter his profile

send me on twitter his profile we're

gonna look at his profile together

the guy who's judging i haven't read any

mock so we're gonna see

can you guys click his profile how do i

find it

okay this is the best i can do so this

is the hater we're working with

this is the hater we're working with

ready this is who we're working with

can't find it okay it's okay you all

ready for this

this is the hater we're working with

ready

this is the best i can do

you talking about everything about

spirits and abstractions like just go do

a revolution log

okay he's trying to troll me but chas

does

you have a pedophilic type of smile

and i don't know what to say you have a

weird fucking smile right here

and who are you to judge me saying i

can't read marx when you look like this

who you to judge me huh

the audacity the audacity i haven't read

marks you talk about everything like

spirits and abstractions

marx talked about the same fucking white

idiot go look what he said about

commodity fetishism dumbass go read his

fucking notes go read grunder say

grundry say whatever the fuck you say go

read anything by marx you dumb shit

chaz daz you fucking idiot

that's not him i don't know what the

fuck this is man but just want to come

at me i'm going to come at you right

back

i don't even know who this is

don't dis all right fine i'm not gonna

diss it okay i'm not gonna just

not gonna do this but uh

you wanna come this guy hasn't read any

marks after seeing his whole fucking

stream

you bet your fucking ass i've read marks

dumbass

trying to troll me

okay we're gonna go back distraction

i'm saying distractions look guys guys

like i said before

infrared's not going anywhere the left

will reckon with infrared you understand

we're not going nowhere okay the haters

gonna come try to discourage me and shit

you suck my dick bitch

how about that because of the assumption

it implies

of temporal sequence you understand back

on track

back on track okay

because why

in reality in reality

surplus value is created

not

a surplus value is already

created the range

the range of surplus value is already

created

and established beforehand in time

by prior revolution in forces of

production

by prior revolution in the forces of

production

labor all this stuff i'm not going to

get into labor here

labor is for another stream okay

that's way more complicated we're just

going to cap it like this

labor tech

and all that good stuff realizes

a threshold established beforehand

in time

this is how i would conclude

now i'm not going to conclude with this

we have to conclude with something

better

this is off the top of my head guys okay

so we're going to conclude

mcm is what we're going to conclude

okay m c

m shouldn't

not be understood voluntarily

in fact in fact it is profoundly

conservative circuit

m m

it is not related to some

to some unstoppable thirst

for profit this is freudian

uh jurisdiction

that should not be confused for marx

desire drive and all that good stuff

despite related

they are related but don't confuse them

so when people tell you on youtube

capitals growth is just infinite

infinite growth

uh there's a finite amount of resources

but an infinite desire for growth and

profit

well this is actually not a proper

understanding of what capital or

capitalism is can you explain lenin her

luxembourg theories on imperialism

because a lot of people use their

definition to say china is imperialist

we'll have to get to that another stream

you know um i'm this is not gonna be a

five hour stream so i just wanted to

introdu

introduction to capital but i could also

do an introduction to imperialism or i

could do

capital part two it's i'm gonna try to

put polls out on twitter

this is a good time guys for you guys to

look right here

see this

follow us on twitter because i'm going

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i can't do youtube polls yet we need a

thousand subs

otherwise i would just do those but

we'll vote on what kind of streams we

want in the future

i'm still confused about the fact that

it doesn't correspond to the individual

level

yeah that's the crux of it um

but it's as simple as this fact at the

level of an individual capitalist

all you're doing is reallocating the

amount of value that's already instanced

meanwhile the real uh

circuit the wider circuit of that

produces surplus value

is actually happening at an aggregate

level not an individual one

yeah we'll do an intro to imperialism

sometime but we're going to do polls and

stuff

to vote some streams are going to be

educational like this not all streams

are going to be educational guys

okay but this one's gonna this is our

second educational stream so far

by the way guys if you want to find our

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and click live streams and they're all

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including this one i'm gonna keep this

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but we just don't want it to be on our

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page forever you know because we want

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um yeah okay anyway

mcm should not be understood voluntarily

in fact it is a profoundly conservative

circuit

and the reason for that is because

the surplus is already

latent mcm

just realizes something that was already

there

just by being

and this is the final thing i want you

guys to think about

and this is gonna you know even hakeem

what he said about the finite

resources and stuff i'm going to be

disagreeing with that

because i'm going to say this merely by

subsisting

humanity produces an excess

a surplus

dialectic thinking allows you to

see that merely by subsisting

merely by subsisting humanity produces

an

excess and a surplus

why because

we actually do not know what we are

and what nature is the surplus

rev reveals to us something about being

if being was a closed circuit there

would be no change

there would be no ecological crisis

there would be no infinite growth

humanity cannot stop growing because

we actually do not know what we are we

don't know what nature is we haven't

exhausted it

we haven't completely mastered it and we

never will

never will there will always be a

surplus or an excess

of some kind marx is the first

investigation

putting this excess this surplus under

interrogation in the form of

capital

rate this stream guys in the chat what

do you think out of 10

i'm fine with the six you know i just

want to get you guys mind rolling

i just want to get you guys mind rolling

what do you guys think this is all off

the top of my head so please be a little

bit patient with me

see

okay

what's up romano nice

987 i'm good with that

i'll take that seven seven is great

seven is great i'll take those sevens

i'll take those sevens at least i

introduced it to you in a new way right

why does lefty play should i go on lefty

pull right now to wrap this up see what

these bitch-ass people are saying

should i go on lefty full

yeah yeah i should prepare it more next

time it's off the top of my head you

know

um but i kind of feel like

i'm gonna check out what all these

people are saying

saying they hate me what do they hate me

for what did i fucking do

look at this guy already he quoted me

like this

already fucking quoted me what you were

when infrared proof we can meet defeat

mass energy energy conversion

how is that anything to do with mass

energy conversion you fucking idiot

you can't know what the mass and the

energy is

in total you don't fucking know it

preemptively dumb fuck respond to me on

this shit bitch

how do you not mention cmc because it's

all off the top of my fucking head but i

pretty much did mention cmc when i

talked about the pre-capitalist

societies

idiot fucking i want to see this jimmy

neutron fucking idiot

i want to see the jimmy neutron retard

what does this have to do with mass

energy conversion you fucking idiot

what does that have to do with that

matter can't be so

you are assuming you know the total you

know what that matter is then right you

already know what matter is

you know the total amount of matter and

you can actually um

quantify it according to you right you

have a little book and you you know all

the type of matter that exists

and you know it right i said it's an

epistemological problem you fucking

moron

but you according to you just because

there's only

it's like why do you assume you know the

amount of mass

or energy that exists

why do you assume that because you're a

western retard

i have a shitty microphone otherwise i

would debate me bitch come fucking

debate

me i don't care about your shitty

microphone come fucking debate me you

pussy

look at all these fucking people bitch

modern science the institution of

science pretty much should be rejected

at this point

because so much yeah i agree

he actually thinks the profit motive is

psychological i'm saying

you left this only represented in a

psychologistic way

you always talk about this hunger for

greed and infinite growth

this is a psychological problem you are

making an assumption when you talk about

infinite growth

what about the great stagnation what

about the element of stagnation and

decay

you only talk about infinite growth but

you never seem to fucking mention the

falling rate of profit in the aspect of

stagnation

because you make an arrogant fucking

leap

an olympic leap that you're not

justified in fucking making

of assuming infinite growth in the

abstract based on a finite and

historical type of growth

moron there are either arbitrary

categories we make

what we like to and on some level

believe we're something more than

read the ddr flag post who's that neon

dude i'm not going to read your

your paragraph

something something on top i'm not going

to read your dumb paragraph

sorry how puzzled science is corrupted

but rejecting modern because you didn't

understand why i said i reject modern

science you fucking moron it's about

anglo-modernity

but i didn't even get to any of that

either i already created and established

beforehand

yeah i want you guys to wrap your head

around that and think beyond

linear sequentialistic time yes

telling for red he hasn't read marx

i bet you fucking ass i read marks

exactly

exactly bitch pussy

i don't give a fuck dude i'm gonna i

don't care who it was you understand

they give off exude energy in the chat

superimposed my one

interpretation of the picture yeah so

there's a circuit right

money spent to produce commodities

another sort of money actually this is

misleading

yes you marxists make the fucking

misleading assumption i didn't say marx

made it

you're making the assumption marx was

simplifying it

but through capital he clarifies what

the fucking point is

you fucking idiot

he literally doesn't know yes he did

because i'm talking

in terms of epistemic about our

knowledge in relation to this range of

possibility

you fucking moron that's why i said

epistemic

all you guys look stupid as fuck

f falling rate of profit has nothing to

do with the amount of surplus value

extracted

it has to do with the fact that there's

not enough there's no more surplus value

to extract it just becomes value

you can it's john loves to post

oh okay i don't want to offend you but

i'm sorry i'm just not going to read

long ones

dude i'm so triggered by these pussies

man

they never want to come out and debate

grow some fucking balls come debate me

bitch

to combine with marx's theories of

productive forces

is really dumb move of course i can

conceal revolutions of the forces

production

you can conceive of them only after

they've happened you can't voluntarily

initiate them

that's a profoundly materialistic

marxist point

beware of buzzwords that confuse people

okay well i asked the chat if they're

confused to clarify so whose problem is

that you fucking frog idiot

con can considering his butchering marks

i doubt his description of

land is any more accurate it's it's

more or less in the ballpark okay land

all this stuff about circles around

stuff

he might not agree but it's in the

ballpark and that's all that fucking

matters and

you have to show how i butchered marks

you fucking bitch

i just presented in a way you're not

familiar with when you said i butchered

marx

the finite resources thing is so stupid

anyway i know dude it's malthusian

retard fucking he talked about the

conservation of matter and energy what a

fucking moron

something something on top yeah i get it

you're scared about words you're not

familiar with and you're just admitting

you're a dumbass and somehow that makes

you the cool guy

and not a fucking self-admitted retard

mcm does not correspond to the

individual level

how does it not don't take my words out

of contest

it does correspond at the individual

level it does

but what the more essential thing going

on with value and surplus value is that

the aggregate of society

that's what i was trying to fucking say

if you read me in bad faith

you wouldn't say this dumb shit if you

read me in good faith you wouldn't say

ask this question all i'm saying is that

the thing about surplus value and value

is happening at the aggregate level

and this is marxism 101 by the way it's

not even a heterodox view it's marxism

101.

okay he's going into nick line now a

change in reality itself

yes well that's what it would why is

there new value

in an intuitive level because something

changes in reality and

the money corresponds that there's a

qualitative change not just a

quantitative redistribution of the

finite amount of money that exists

there's a change in reality itself and

according for land at least as far as i

know about

land that's what corresponds to um

value

any simplification i know dude any

simplification simplification is going

to be wrong

you just have to go with what i'm trying

to say and let it lead you in a certain

direction

most of the stream wasn't even remotely

heterodox i know but you still have

people harassing me

because this is all neons and the pussy

ray coming after me

both of them

okay and you may why is this you know

i'm just trying to simplify it guys

visual aids okay well you you make a

better stream than me

you get a stream with 40 people and this

amount of likes and this amount of

positive feedback

and then come compare with me you do

better than me bitch

you know all you guys on this website uh

lefty pull

you guys gotta understand i'm out here

representing basically your little

you know marxism and all this stuff all

these things that are only being

circulated on your dumb little shit in

the west

i'm out here putting myself out here and

is going to grow

and we're going to be the ones

representing this whether you fucking

bitch ass people like it or not

we're going to be the ones participating

representing this you're going to be

behind your fucking keyboard on this

dark website

bitching and complaining like you've

always done we you know what i'm saying

you better not get it mixed up what's

going on here what kind of relationship

we have to your bitch ass website

because he very obviously has not read

marks

they're trying to troll me they're

trying to troll me

as there is an objective quality to

knowledge

you fucking idiot no one would say

not a scientist no one in the fucking

world but a fucking idiot would say

that you can have knowledge over all of

reality you can't

there's things you don't know simple as

that

simple as that does i'm not talking

about objective quality this is all

bullshit from lenin's empiricism he

already covered it

okay yes knowledge can have an objective

quality

but at the same time it's still going to

be relativistic because

there's a discontinuity between

knowledge and material reality

and it's never going to be one thing

this is very simple materialism

has you don't know what epistemology

shove it up your ass bitch why do you

think we just create surplus value

willy-nilly

when did i say that i said the opposite

what you're not compelled to do it

you're individualizing marx's capital

for your own personal fucking melodrama

because you're a fucking loser in real

life

you're personalizing it

it's not a fucking excuse come debate me

you pussy how is the motive a material

force

i didn't say it was a material force why

do people put words in my fucking mouth

when did i say it's a material force all

i said

oh it's it's a different guy sorry

profit motive is based on the way

capital

has to function listen guys ultimately

when you're talking about profit motive

and capitalism you are talking about

individuals

capitalism doesn't exist on its own for

capitalism to function this is all being

mediated through individuals

this is why marxists never had a good

idea of subjectivity

never had a good theory of subjectivity

that's why they turn to freud

because you have a zero no understanding

of subjectivity whatsoever

profit motive is based on the way

capitalism has to function who is

capitals let me talk to him on the phone

i have my phone here give me the number

of capitalism and i'm gonna call them

i'm gonna start yelling at them that's

how fucking stupid you sonny fucking

moron

what is capitalism if not being mediated

through individuals

you fucking excuse making bitch you like

these fucking

leftists on the internet oh the

institutionalized uh

uh capital capital is making you just

making excuses for your own individual

shortcoming

well it's almost like a rand was right

you just keep referring to these macro

social shit

as an excuse to bypass the question of

subjectivity in the individual

in your sense of it anan whatever the

fuck your number 66628

capitalism doesn't even fucking exist

okay how about that because of

competitive context

okay but why why is there people

i'm all i said was that the drive for

money and money zone k

uh money's on sake

and uh the infinite growth thing these

are all psychologistic critiques

not up the ballpark of having a more

fundamental understanding of marks

uh i if the oil supplier holds their pr

yeah i know this is a different question

i'm not going to get into this

complicated shift

limbs go ape shit and i know judy's

fucking lib website

what's up with that bunch of fucking

libs dude

i'm triggered by these pussies what does

that may cause then

yeah i'm triggered by pussies like you

existing

debate me why would anyone debasement

make some ass on some all man so you

come out in the open and do this you

fucking bitch

you're spending your time on a website

called lefty pool i'm out here in the

light of day

reaching a wider audience than you ever

fucking will you compete with me bitch

you get on my fucking level

this guy's schizophrenic or something

fixation on neon is

that he actually is no i just don't have

another name that everyone else knows

and is familiar with

that i can use and there's a fucking

joke

jesus christ let me joke with my

audience majority of my people are my

people

you a bunch of little bitches in the

minority complaining

he's doing targeted harassment on the

thread

and darwin was cribbing from malthus in

his evolutionary three

theory

you're taking a very

what are you doing what is this

it's evolutionary like darwin

what a fucking idiot dude what a fucking

idiot

yeah this guy's a moron the ones who

follow the program

succeed and survive it's not

psychological at all

that's that doesn't have a psychological

correlate or component

at all are you stupid or what

there's no there's no psychological

anything involved in that what you just

said

you just explained why it's

psychological you fucking idiot or are

you saying it's just a matter of

survival well

99 of people don't do what you're saying

and they still

survive physically so what is your point

you're trying to bring in darwin

you sound like a fucking moron how is it

not psychological at all is it

psychological

what an idiot it's subjective it's not

subjective

i didn't say it's subject to you fucking

juan i'm sad marxists don't have any

view of

you're the ones who brought this in i

was taking your side at first i was

saying

the psychologistic stuff put it aside

let's just focus on marxism but now you

guys are coming and saying that

psychology has nothing to do with any of

this

and there's no psychological reality

well that's why marxists have a dipshit

understanding of subjectivity they don't

have one at all

this is all bullshit anyway mm capital

generates value

that's a different story you're getting

into more complicated territory i was

just trying to

this was an introduction to capital has

i think your problem i have

with your presentation is that you

really seem to imply that machines

create new value

i never implied that i implied i said

that was nick land's view

and that is nick land's view i said i

disagree with that view

i didn't get into labor because it's a

way more complicated conversation

i never said machines can produce new

value i said nick land thought that was

the case and i disagree with that

okay i'm done with this that's it that's

all

the laughs you're gonna get out of me

today okay

that's all the fucking milking you're

gonna get from this

i know this is what gets the good views

right but i don't give a fuck

congrats you triggered me

nobody ever wants to debate me man

nobody wants to debate me all pussies

all pussies

it's okay it's okay

it's okay guys you know i gotta eat i

gotta eat

so i'm gonna head off but uh

see you guys later most of you guys fine

have you tried joining the matrix i know

what that means

you're not missing much you know i

understand the stream is part one

this is not even part one this is just

the intro

yeah you like paul cockshot not really

i don't have anything against him though

but i don't agree with him

how's where can i learn more about

marxist fair to get subjectivities

it's self-evident dude they don't they

don't have any theory of subjectivity

they don't explain to people

that's why marxists fail in this world

you know that's why people like zizek do

well and marxists are failing

beasts another great stream thanks man i

appreciate it too weak to debate

yeah okay see you see you guys then

i debate you if i weren't a theory let