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I'm PORT PORTX with the 10. What is going on? American Step with the 10. What is up, bro? Outside with the 1. What's going on, man? Appreciate you. Appreciate you. All right.

We are clocking in in about five minutes.

We have that much time, I guess, about five minutes. And then we're going to have to basically start the debate with tweak teller, tweaker truth teller.

He calls himself truth teller.

This guy's been lying for years on ex-bullshitting about the Bolsheviks and how

they ate babies and murdered 5 trillion

Christians and they were all these

they were all Jews and Stalin was

Jewish and I'm Jewish and Santa Claus

is Jewish and anyway

he's been running from debate

for months and months but finally I, I guess, you know, with the help of Soleiman, I guess he's been pressured to accept the debate.

So we're going to get into it.

Apparently, this debate is about the Hello D'Amour.

The Hello Domo. the Hello Domeur, the very real holo...

The Holodomor, very real.

It's about that, and it's about the Bolsheviks.

I guess the idea is that truth tellers...

In 5% of every Bolsheviks. I guess the idea is that truth tellers, in 5% of every

Bolshevik was Jewish.

The Bolsheviks were created

by rabbis in the basement

somewhere with candles.

I don't even know what this guy

sounds like, but he's just a fucking tweaker.

He's such a...

He's like a pigeon, just a loud, persistent, loud, fucking twitching tweaker.

And apparently I heard he's literally... acts like a fucking meth head and a crackhead in debate. So I guess we're gonna, I'm gonna remain calm. I'm gonna remain chill, but apparently this is what we're dealing with, right? So I'm gonna be chill. I'm be completely rational. I'm going to be completely composed. And we are just going to see if truth tellers narrative holds up. Because as we know, it's all narrative with these people. It has nothing to do with fact. It has nothing to do with primary sources or anything like that it's all about

creating a compelling narrative and that's really all it is

so that's what we're doing.

I took the time out of my busy schedule to do this debate, even though I have a lot to prepare for for the confirmation of the Central Committee as well as our other early May events in Chicago.

But here I am defending our party wherever.

I mean, I don't back down from any debate.

I accept any debate challenge.

So here we are.

And, you know, it's incredible because we're just constantly getting attacked by leftists.

You know, there was this one tweet that got like 5,000 likes or whatever, which is like,

ACP isn't even hiding it anymore.

And they show some guy defending the Confederacy

and he has nothing to do with the ACP

at all. So, you know, it's just

feds from all directions attacking

us.

And then now I have to deal with this retarded,

tweaking crackhead, truth teller. So this is

an incredible position we're in right now

you know and uh i'm not going to accept it i'm not going to accept these feds attempting to

corner us in this fucking retarded strategic position where they're screaming and calling us

Jesus Christ, they're screaming at us, Amila with the 10, what's up, they're screaming

at us and shitting and pissing and losing their

fucking minds, um, just

constantly.

You know,

calling us Jews, calling

us Jews, Jews, Jews. And then the other side,

constantly calling us Nazis and fascists.

And it's like, what the fuck?

You know? One side calls us Nazis.

The other side calls us Jews.

What the fuck are we dealing? Like, literally,

what the fuck is this?

What the literal fuck is this

position the feds have put us in?

Bert, what's up? It's like,

one side screams that were Jewish,

the other side screams that were

anti-Semitic Nazis.

I don't understand what the fuck that is.

I don't get it. You know?

It's, well, I do understand it.

It's a, they're meant, they're trying to strategically put us in the most

disadvantageous position possible so that we are utterly

marginalized and we don't get sympathy from anyone, right?

And that's how you know we're fucking real,

because that doesn't happen to anyone else.

Thomas with the 10.

That's how you fucking know we're real, all right?

Like, holy shit.

Thomas, the Posovic, the Bosovic!

I am a... I am a

Bolshevik. All right? This

is... We are the

fucking Bolsheviks of 2025.

All right?

I'm sick of people trying

to mystify this phenomena of Bolshevism, as if there aren't actual Bolsheviks that exist here and now today, which is us, you know?

But anyway, let's, you know, we're going to join this space as soon as it's ready.

It is 10

and we will be very punctual. they screenshoted the discord what are you fucking talking about no they didn't

the confederate shit did not come from our fucking discord that came from some random fucking uh

twitter fuck like what are you talking about also random fucking Twitter fuck

like what are you talking about

also ACP doesn't have a discord

but if you're talking about the infrared discord

no it did not come from that

some random fuck who's not even

infrared who's not even infrared.

All right.

All right.

Well, I'm waiting for maybe Myron is going to be hosting it.

No? It is Soleiman. I think he's a little late. for maybe Myron is going to be hosting it? No.

It is Soleiman.

I think he's a little late.

Um... And then I do. do anyway truth teller is one of those people

that actually believes their own bullshit.

J.C.

what's like,

truth teller,

he's not just a propagandist trying to,

like, deceive the masses.

He's trying to convince himself of this shit.

He is like an auto erotic

manic monstrosity.

Like he's like every time...

Yeah!

What's going on?

The bus!

He's trying to hype himself up

and convince himself of this bullshit

in the same vein

that he's trying to convince audiences

it's like

he's literally

doing performing

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auto erotic

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thing where it's like

he he's gassing his own shit up

he's like farting and saying

this is the truth

you know

he's siopping himself

it's like you know i don't want to

I'm not going to say what that reminds me of

but it does remind me of

some curious

tendencies in modern

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something for sure

I'm not going to say what

but it does remind me of something

it's getting high off his own

supply

all right well we're going to just wait for this off his own supply.

All right, well, we're going to just wait for this space to start.

It's been three minutes.

Let me know if it started and I can't see, because I'm on blue stacks, and blue stacks I know can be famously unreliable sometimes.

Check Solomon and see if it has started so we're going to wait for this to start I hope the time zones are not

messed up

you know

I hope he didn't

get the time zone wrong.

That would be terrible.

That would be terrible.

No, it seems like it's right.

I set a reminder for the space.

10 Eastern lie tweaker uh in his dark corner is going to tell us about how

bolsheviks killed 50 trillion you know what's funny about these retarded

people is they're like white russians as if like white russian means like caucasian russian

rather than belarusians from the northwest part of what was then the Russian Empire.

Like, they don't even fucking know what it means.

They think white Russian is like a, they think like there's white Russians and there's like black Russians from Africa and there's like yellow

well there are yellow Russians to be fair and there's like brown Russians and there's like

all these different versions of racial versions of Russians and the Bolsheviks just targeted the white ones

because they were Jewish and they hated white people so much.

It's like they think there was just like straight up a black guy in the leadership with a Jew and they were like persecuting all the white people in Russia and it was like a black guy overseeing it with the Jews because it's a racial attack on the white race because they saw

white Russian and they projected their retarded American conception of racial politics onto

Russia and they think that it has something to do with that, rather than a

Belarusian.

All right, let's join the space.

Here we are.

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this reminds me

this reminds me of the old day

you know

back in the time

we didn't have to deal in the we didn't like truth, we didn't have to deal with people like truth tell.

We didn't have to deal with all that nonsense.

Back in the day, people just go outside, walk around and the you know

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you're the right guys

you guys appreciate you guys joining in and listening

unfortunately the previous link that we had

it wasn't working I was trying for a good three, four minutes to start the space and it wouldn't start. So we had to start another one. We had at least about 1,200, 1,300, 100 people who'd set a reminder on that, unfortunately. So do me a favor. Retweet, reshare the space.

Let everybody know where live, that would be brilliant.

I am sending a link out to a few people as well

because people were prepped up and hyped up for this debate.

On the Bolshevitz and Holdemar,

it's going to be Haz al-en from the acp and truth teller debating i want to welcome maryin in as host maran how you doing

oh what's that man can? Can you hear me?

Yes, loud and clear.

Nice, nice. Yeah. No, I'm also broadcasting this thing right now on YouTube and on Rumble.

So we got even more eyeballs that way. So this is going to be a big one.

Got a lot of people that obviously were waiting waiting for this i'm tweeting out the the space as well um so yeah welcome to truth teller welcome to has man yeah i just want to

welcome truth and has as well onto the space has uh thanks for joining us has a dean from the acp party um and truth teller uh here to debate

has uh is your mic working are you ready to bet yep uh thank you so much for having me on i've been

excited to have this debate for a long time and

thank you both for hosting

it. Should be good.

I appreciate that.

And truth, are you doing well? Are you ready for the

debate and is your mic loud and clear?

Still, mic, check. How is it?

It's a teeny bit low unless it's me.

Is it any way you can just increase it slightly?

Or is it me?

Okay, I'm speaking right into the mic right now.

How is it now?

Okay, it must be me.

It must be me.

Can you hear him clearly? Maher, can you be me. It must be me. Can you hear him clearly?

Mario, can you hear me okay?

Okay, Haas, can you hear me?

Oh, I can hear you fine.

I turned up, uh, I turned the volume on my end.

Uh, so mine, if you're on a computer, maybe use the master volume thing if you have that extension on Google.

Oh, yeah, no, I realized what it was.

It's because Hazer's a mic is actually extremely loud.

And then when it's in comparison to yours and truths then it looks

pale in comparison so that's where it is

it isn't actually his mic

so appreciate everybody coming on

guys do retweet, reshare the space

and this is a conversation

that's been had on social media

a lot, Candace Owens mentioned it a lot of

big profiles mentioned it and I think it's really good debate first of all has a dream and truth are well-versed in the topic I think it's going to be a fire debate and it's an important point to learn the structure of the debate and myron is going to be a fire debate. And it's an important point to

learn. The structure of the debate, and

Myron's going to be timing it,

is going to be that both sides are going to start

off with a five-minute introduction.

They're going to present their

argument and their position on the

Bolshevitz and the Holdermot.

And then we're going to have a scenario where we've got five main topics,

and we'll go back and forth on those.

Two minutes each side, and we'll probably do two to three rounds but we'll and then we'll ask both sides

if they want to continue the rounds on that specific topic or not and then what we'll have is

two additional modes within the debate.

The first mode is going to be, and by the both sides don't know about this, so they both are in the exact same situation.

And I give credit to both of them.

They literally, this was the easiest debate to put together in the history of debate.

A message has within like 10 seconds.

He was like, yes, let's do it.

I messaged truth.

And then he said straight away, let's do it.

A message has and he straight away agreed to the time.

And then same with truth.

He then messaged and then agreed to the time immediately.

He literally was very, very smooth.

So a big credit to both guys that they were ready for this debate.

So then what we'll do is the second form.

By the both in the exact same situation,

the messages are sent were exactly the same to both sides,

so they're both aware of the same thing at the same time.

And the second side part of the debate,

if has and truth I'll care with it,

is going to be where both sides are able to propose a question

to the other side and have a back and forth dialogue on that.

Hopefully that works out.

And then the last side, and this is where the audience

comes in, put your questions

in the tweet, in

the nest. Because if

there is questions, for example,

you've got where you on both sides

to speak about because obviously

has al-Din comes from the

communist perspective, truth

believes obviously that communism is

a Jewish construct and so

therefore there may be certain aspects

that haven't been covered in the debate and you're like,

I really wanted these two to

debate or have questions

on this issue. So that'll be the third part.

So is that okay with you, truth

and has?

Sure.

Yeah, sure.

Brilliant.

Brilliant. Really excited for the debate so guys do retweet reshare the space

i'm gonna just put it on my i'm gonna just put it on my pin and then we'll start marron are you

ready with the timer? Yeah, so

the way it's going to go, guys, is the first

two rounds, well, it's actually the first round,

but each of you is going to get a five-minute preamble to state

your position. If you guys could just articulate where you stand

on the Bolshevig Revolution, I think the first

topic is going to be, um,

for this first five minute

is that the Bolshu revolution was run by

Jews? Is that the first topic or just the overall

parambal? Yeah, the first five minutes will just be an overall parambal

from both sides. We'll go let truth go first

and then we'll go to has because he'll give his contentions and his positions and then we'll reverse it at the end.

And yeah, the first topic is going to be. Yeah, general parambal. And then the first topic after the first five minute introduction is going to be world where the Bolshevich is Jewish.

Okay.

So, um, cool.

So truth will go first.

Truth will go first.

I got a timer here.

What I'll do is when you have 10 seconds left, I'll say 10 seconds.

Does that work for both of you and us?

That way I interrupt you guys as least as possible.

Could you repeat that?

My bad.

I didn't catch that.

No problem.

When you guys each have your round,

so for this first preamble is five minutes,

when you guys have 10 seconds left and I'll do this every time for every round,

I'll tell you 10 seconds.

Oh yeah.

I'll say 10.

Sure.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That way you know to wrap up, you got 10 seconds to go.

And if one of you do goes over, what I'll do is I'll make sure I add that time to the next person.

Let's say truth goes over by 10 seconds. I'll give you an extra 10 seconds. Cool.

Yeah, for sure, for sure. All right. Awesome. If there's anything else, truth, are you good?

Yeah, I just want to make sure you can hear me okay? I can hear you perfectly, man.

Excellent.

I'm ready.

Cool.

All right, man.

I will start talking now and I'll start the timer.

Sure, yeah.

Thank you.

First of all, thanks to the host, co-host for moderating the debate. Thank you to Haas for showing up as well and for everyone that's here listening. Appreciate it. Thank you for taking the time on Sunday night. All right, so I'm of the contention that the Judeo-Bolsheviks were primarily of Jewish descent, heritage,

and many of them may have even tried to hide their heritage, but in fact,

communism in and of itself is a Jewish construct.

But nobody has to take my word for it.

I like to use, well, Jewish sources who claim the same thing.

So I'll start with Rabbi Harry Watton, who says, the communist soul is the soul of Judaism.

Hence it follows that as in the Russian Revolution, the triumph of communism was the triumph of Judaism.

The Jewish elements provide

the driving forces for communism.

That was Dr. Oscar Levy, and then

some may call it communism, but I call it

what it is. Judaism.

That's Rabbi Stephen S.

Weiss. For those who have a little bit of

understanding of the Talmud, it's quite clear that communism

is essentially a manifestation of what Judaism wants, which is to create the slave state, where the Jews

would be on top in charge of all the means of production, and then the slaves the gentiles would be the ones working within the gulags and also within factories under slave labor type conditions this has always been the intention contention of what communism was so then we we asked, well, who founded this?

Who founded communism?

Who drafted the main manifestos?

We have to cite then.

First, Moses has, he wrote the book, actually,

and before that, he was expressing his ideas,

and he met with both Frederick Engels

Carl Marx, his real name, Moses

Mordecai Levy, after he changed it.

So he met with them and discussed

ideas for both Zionism

and communism. Communism,

its definition is quite clear.

It's the violent overthrow of the establishment

so that those

who they claim are proletariats,

the factory workers will then

take control and be in charge of the

means of production. So Moses

Hess, of course, wrote his book, and he

also collaborated with both Karl Marx and Frederick Engels, where he then drafted the Communist Manifesto and leader of Das Kapital, which is served as the main pretext to then go about the invasions later on that would take place. Because it's an ideology, a sociopolitical economic ideology,

it isn't based on anything peaceful or democratic or through election.

Again, it's done through violent overthrow.

As we've seen throughout history with respect to how Jews operate, they've never been ones to operate by the letter of the law.

They like creating their own legal systems, their own ideologies, their own manifestos, to then go about achieving it.

Fast forwarding a bit to 1897, we had the establishment of the Jewish Bunnlink and at the same time also the

Zionist manifesto was released, how convenient.

And then they slowly went about trying

to push their way through.

And even prior to that, they were pushing

their way through. They actually assassinated

Alexander II, who was the Tsar of Russia, in the early 1860s.

Even before that, actually, he liberated all the serfs in 1861.

Now let's talk about pre-Sar, or actually during the SARS reign and what the conditions were like for Russia.

Well, in fact, they had some of the best working conditions that were established before World War I.

The workers, first of all, the so-called workers' peasants, serfs, whatever you want to call them,

they were more like first-class citizens.

They had private property rights. They had their own property, in fact. They were more like first class citizens. They had private property rights.

They had their own property, in fact. They could bear arms.

They all had secure, guaranteed jobs.

The Russian economy was a top four economy with only a 2% tax rate, a minimal debt,

because they had their own state-run treasury

where they were issuing their own notes.

And so they weren't having to worry about

these serious banksters through the Rothschilds

were taking over slowly all of the major countries

around the world.

They first started when they took

what they took over the bank. In Amsterdam

in 1609, then they moved up to the UK in

1694, and they would get up to

the U.S. in 1930 and many

other banks in between. Their objective

was to get to Russia,

which is the first thing they did when they took powers.

They installed their bank.

And this way took control of the Russian monetary policy

and also the faith of the Gentiles.

Now this beef between

Russia and Ukraine goes back many

centuries and the Jews they don't forget.

It was always their contention

and intention objective to want to take

back the land lay lost during the time of

Qazaria when they had their empire between the

7th and 10th centuries before it got

disbanded by Count Vladimir. They never

forget, they always tried, they made attempts.

Communism was their way to get it done.

A violent way because they were

going up against, you know, a monumental

an amazing

and incredible Russian Tsar regime that was a benevolent leader

who just sought to give back to his people and give, provide a level playing field so that everybody could have a chance of promotion.

Everybody could have a shot at the Russian

dream, who's a steady

job, a family

to have a spiritual

fulfillment because it wasn't

based on an atheist system.

There was no degeneracy.

There was no abortion.

There was heterosexual values.

There was Christian values

there was a strong sense of identity

and a very high standard living for all

and this is what

I thought you could say 10 seconds

yeah my bet I had myself

fucking muted

what the fuck okay I'm hearing something in the background I had myself fucking muted.

What the fuck?

Okay, I'm hearing something in the background.

Hold on, let me mute my shit.

I appreciate that. Truth, take 10 seconds, and I will give as extra 10 seconds.

Sure, yeah. So in this debate, I'll be discussing what life was like on the Tsar,

and then we'll proceed to discuss how things failed, essentially, under communism,

and essentially collapsed by 1991.

I'll get into more details during the rounds.

Thank you for coming out.

I appreciate that.

So as you, you'll have five minutes and 15 seconds.

Once Myron is ready, we'll start the timer.

Am I ready?

If not, I can start the timer.

Okay, I'll do it. One second. Let me just get the clock up so that you get the exact time, so it's fair. Right, okay, go ahead. Thank you so much. So, I'm Hazald Dean, the executive chairman of the American Communist Party, and as the executive chairman of an actual Communist Party, I am amazed at this colorful description, our resident communist and Marxist scholar, truth teller, has given about communism. Now, as somebody who studied Marxism for since I was 12 or 13 years old, I'm amazed at this new scholarly

interpretation where it's all about enslaving

the goyim and having Jewish people

on top. It's the first time

I'm hearing about this. And I'm sure that as

the debate progresses, we're going to find that

truth teller is extremely well read and

extremely literate regarding the classics of

the canon of Marxist and Marxist-Leninist literature. I'm sure he's read many Marxist books. I'm sure he's

read the writings of Karl Marx and Lenin and Mao and Stalin and others. And I can't wait to have a scholarly exchange with him about his beautiful and extremely

articulate understanding and description of Marxism.

Now, to be actually rather frank, I'm just going to go ahead and say that it's pretty baffling

because every single claim that he made, every single

claim he had just made within the five-minute time he was allotted, is comprehensively, completely,

and without ambiguity, a total lie and fabrication. From the claim that the Russian Empire had no debt

when it was in fact held by the balls by French banks, and it was in fact the Bolsheviks

cancellation of all of the foreign debt, which was owned by the private banking cartels abroad, that actually got them invaded by the entire world,

and besiezed and embargoed even and sabotaged at every turn, because these capitalists basically had all of their property confiscated, and their debts completely liquidated.

To his claim that under the beautiful paradise of Tsarist Russia, there was no degeneracy,

when you had registered child prostitutes as young as 11 years old who were basically roaming the streets of Russia's major cities with the permission of the state.

You're talking about a state where maybe at best by World War I, a quarter of the population could read and

write. Abominally

low literacy rates where people were

living in huts and the overwhelming majority

of the country were living

in the backwoods as peasants, barely

teetering on the edge. If any

famine came, they would just basically die in mass numbers,

and nobody would do anything about it because nobody cared, and they just considered it a humanitarian tragedy.

It's precisely such conditions the rapacious capitalist exploitation of these peasants, stealing their land and then preying on them as wage laborers,

the robbing of the peasants of their land, the sending them off to die in a vain war against an overwhelmingly more industrialized Germany,

where Russia was so backward, it couldn't even sustain itself and defend itself against foreign aggressors.

These are the conditions that led to the success of the Bolshevik Party.

And regarding the formation of the Russian Revolutionary Movement to begin with, it's true that the Tsar Alexander II abolished

serfdom, and that's great. But following the abolition of serfdom, all that happened was that

the Russian peasantry were placed under debt obligations by creditors and basically became

de facto serfs, again again the ones that didn't

went on to be uh trafficked and and shoved into these factories with abominable working conditions

where they were treated like cattle they had no rights whatsoever they were living under the

most depraved and miserable conditions imaginable.

And these were the circumstances that led to the widespread proliferation of Marxist ideas among the underground revolutionary intelligentsia.

Marxism has always formed in response to a fundamental oppression and exploitation of the people. They say that how bad the communist regimes were and how terrible communism was, but they never actually go into the weeds and the facts of how terrible and awful it was before and how much communism actually improved

things relative to where they were coming from. And moreover, I mean, I don't even know where to begin.

Every single thing he said doesn't make any sense when you scrutinize it from the basic perspective of historical fact.

How could communism be about Jewish people being on top and all the Gentiles enslaved when the

majority of communist states throughout history did not have any significant Jewish presence. We're talking about China. We're

talking about the DPRK. We're talking about Cuba. We're talking about today's Venezuela, not necessarily

communist, but definitely Marxist and socialist. We're talking about, you know, across Africa and South Yemen. The overwhelming

majority of communist political construction was happening outside of the West, outside of places

that had significant Jewish populations. And this has led a lot of these tweakers who are just pulling things out of their ass, lying about the Bolsheviks, lying about communism, to say that Kim Jong-un is a Jew, and that Xi Jinping is a Jew.

And at a certain point, people have to wake up and realize, how far are we going to take this

sham? It's just total

fabrication and they're pulling it all out of

their ass and I can demonstrate that pretty easily.

I appreciate that.

I thank you so much. That was exactly five

a minute and 15 seconds.

And take it from here, the software

I was using was I had to figure out where to turn

it off when it rings, but I got it.

Each round from this point forward is it going to be

how long, Suleiman? Two minutes.

And just before we get onto the next round,

guys, if you can do me a

favor retweet reshared the space we have 1,200 people on YouTube a Myron's

YouTube channel we have 900 on Maron's Rumble channel and I believe we have almost

1,200 on this Twitter space so retweet res, reshared the space, a huge debate.

I think everyone's been talking about it.

It's going to be fire.

So retweet, reshared space.

So we're going to go onto the first round.

The first round, as Marin said, is going to be two minutes long. We'll do multiple rounds,

and then once we think that both sides

may be one, and then we'll speak

and we'll discuss with this both sides.

But we're minimum going to do three rounds each,

and then if we think that there's a need for another round,

we will, and it'll be two minutes long.

And the first topic is,

um,

were the Bolshevich Jewish?

Let me pass it back over to Myron to speak and then conduct it a bit.

Sure.

No problem.

Okay.

So the first topic is,

we're the Bolsheviks, Jewish.

I guess I'll turn it over to True Teller again.

I got two minutes on o'clock.

Once you start speaking truth, I'll start, I'll hit the timer.

And then again, I'll give you a 10 second thing.

Sorry about that first mishap with the software, but I got it figured out now.

So once you start going, dude, I'll start the timer.

Sure, yeah, thank you.

Yes, the motion works were primarily Jewish, not old Jewish, and you don't need to take my work for it.

Take the word of Vladimir Putin, who stated that around 85%

of the Soviet regime was made up a Jews.

Why do you take the word of Alexander's

socialists who actually served in the Red Army

unlike anyone here? And he was also

a prisoner in the gulags, and he said the majority of the

Soviet regime was also Jewish,

and he broke it down. He actually went up to about

90, 95% and said it was Jewish

and I can name names. Of course, the likes of

Swadlov or Yegoda,

Yeshov, Beria, Kegonovich,

and just so many more names, Naftali Frankl.

And it was of course funded by Jews.

It was not just funded by Jews.

It was created by Jews as I mentioned. It was

used to created the manifestos. I've already mentioned

Karl Marx and of course Moses Hess. It was

used to finance it from Max Warburg of course

Jacob Schiff and Armand Hammer

Ashberg. And it was usually carried it out

under the leadership of Trotsky

and also Lenin, who is a quarter

Jewish at the very least,

and Sperlav and many of the other

militants, terrorists, who

came and invaded Russia. And of course,

the first law the instituted was an

anti-Semitism law to ensure they would

be protected and they could use their

law because they canceled the laws of the SARS

regime to essentially destroy

any type of dissents. Because this was not

a tolerant society out to help anybody. It was just

out to help themselves and acid strip the country, which is the first thing they did when they stole the gold.

In addition to that, they carved out a Jewish oblast for themselves.

They were also building settlements for themselves.

That's what Kaganavish was doing on the outskirts of Ukraine.

They were just stealing land and stealing resources while they were killing off slaves within

the gulags and forcing them to work for meals while they owned nothing.

Because communism entails owning nothing and making no profit zero.

The complete antithesis to what was going on in the SARS

under the SARS rule where he allowed for everyone

to own property, have property rights, bear arms,

have rights, have insurance,

and also literacy rates.

He mentioned the literacy later. There were 56%

by 1897 and they were on their way to being 100% within 20 years because they were building 10,000 schools a year. So baffles my mind that somebody would lie about literacy rates in Russia or lie about the fact they were famous scientists within Russia. They were doing all kinds of incredible things from building cars, trains, planes.

I'll add an extra five for for Haas.

Haas, whenever you're ready, I'll get it going.

Sure, the literacy rates were absolutely nothing close to 56% for the overall population of the Russian Empire. That's just blatantly a lie, just like all the other things you just said in your little spiel there. So there was never a point in which the Bolshevik leadership, however you looked at it, was majority Jewish. And there

was only 5% of the Bolshevik party as a total were Jewish in general. Now, there were some

prominent Jewish personalities in the Bolshevik party. And the question you have to ask is,

what are the causes of that? If the causes of that are the

consequence of some kind of in-group Jewish orchestrated conspiracy to assert their interest at the

expense of Gentiles, why did these Jewish members of the Bolshevik leadership not act in unison?

Why were they constantly forming on opposite sides of the debates,

on opposite sides of the power struggles? For example, Zinoviev and Kamenev, fighting against Trotsky

in the 1920s. For example, Yagoda, a Jew, being the one who shot Zinoviev and Kamenev and oversea saw their executions.

Why was it that, and Kaganovich, who was Stalin's right-hand man, who himself was totally against these other Jewish personalities?

So if we're going to go with the idea that this is mainly a Jewish thing, that these are all Jews working together to assert their interests, how do we explain the fact that they are constantly on the opposite sides of different factions within the Soviet government and within the Bolshevik party? It doesn't have any explanatory value and it doesn't make any sense.

If we actually want to get into the weeds of why there was a Jewish presence at all in the

first place in the early years, we could get into that and I'd be happy to. But any notion

that it was coming from this in-group Jewish orchestrated conspiracy is complete bullshit.

Regarding foreign funding, there's absolutely zero evidence whatsoever that there was any foreign funding for the Bolshevik revolution in particular.

All sources demonstrate very clearly that all of the capitalists abroad

who were hopeful about the february revolution as soon as the october revolution

happened where they

basically cancel all the foreign debt

they completely uh... rejected

the revolutionary movement in russia and actually supported war efforts by capitalist governments to invade the,

the revolutionary Russia, and depose the Soviet government.

So that's completely fabricated and completely made up.

That is time. All right, so I think you went about seven seconds over there. That is time.

All right.

So I think you went about seven.

Over there, it's fine.

You guys kind of evened out from there.

Do another, I guess we'll do another one so that they can.

Yeah.

Yeah, at least two more, yeah, Mitch.

Yeah, for sure.

Okay. Truth, go ahead.

I got two minutes on o'clock when you're ready.

Sure, yeah, thank you.

So absolutely was foreign funded.

There's no way you can finance a 90,000 plus army coming from New York with bags of gold

to be able to pay off, mostly

Jewish army, by Trotsky, by the way.

He was the only created the Red Army

and he was, of course, a Jew. Nobody disputes that part

at least. With help from Lenin, Stalin,

Swerdlov, and many of the other leaders

who would go on to massacre, close

to 100 million Russians

based on many different estimates

from many different scholars. It's not even

really denied anymore that they killed a lot of people

just because they could. And

the whole objective was, again, to acid

strip the country because the first thing they did was steal

the gold. There absolutely was a

massive Jewish presence. I already cited

Alexander Solzhenitsyn. No comment

on that. And he's a subject matter expert. Even

Putin said he respects him. Even Putin

stated 85% of the leadership

was Jewish. So did

Dimitri Gordon,

a Ukrainian journalist who was Jewish,

the top journalist in Ukraine. He even admitted

based on all the research he's done, people should look

him up. He's a very intelligent guy.

He said the leadership was primarily Jewish

as well, and it served for the main

purpose. again, taking

the assets from Russia, installing

the bank and getting back

at the goi, getting back

at the Slavs, who Klau Marx

absolutely hated, he called them genetic

trash. And

what's amusing to me

is this foreign invasion

that took place because most of these guys

were not even Native Russian that showed up there.

Why would anybody defend

defending their interest over the actual

Russians who were subject to the

massacres that would take place? And let's look at who actually got killed. The majority of the people that who were subject to the massacres that would take place. And let's look

at who actually got killed. The majority of the people that

killed were mainly Orthodox Christians.

Their churches were destroyed. Over 200,000

priests and monks were killed.

Close to 54,000s were destroyed or turned into

wheat silos because, again, there was

a process of collectivization that would lead

to famines like the Holodomir to slaughter

people deliberately. By design.

Now, if Latomir, for those who don't know, it just means death

by starvation. It wasn't even the

first one. They were doing it all throughout the 20s because they

could never figure out farming.

All right.

Is that it?

Yeah.

No,

yeah,

that's time now.

Okay,

I never hear you say 10 seconds.

I literally say it,

but you don't hear me because you're talking.

Sorry.

You know what?

I'll start sitting in my own time,

right?

No,

um, sorry. You know what? I'll just say it my own time right, too. No, no.

I say it, but then you just keep going and then I'll say it again and then by then it's already

10 seconds, but

All right.

Haas, you ready?

Yep.

All right. So, Solzhen Needson was a prolific liar

and a complete bullshitter who betrayed his own motherland and fabricated a bunch of claims

I don't know why you're making it seem like anything he says should be taken as fact

There's no primary source evidence whatsoever that suggests the outlandish and ridiculous claims he makes.

Regarding how the revolutionary government was funding its actual overwhelmingly Russian army,

Red Army, that was manned by the Russian peasantry, they didn't need to fund it because

they just seized the Russians and peasants. They seized all the factories. They seized all the

energy. They seized all the resources. They seized all the wealth. They just took it. That's what

the revolution did. And that's why the foreign capitalists bankrolled the

actual foreign invasion

of Russia, which was actually led by

global capitalist powers on behalf

of the white movement to depose the

revolutionary government, to get back their loans,

to get back their wealth, and to get back

for example, Royal Dutch Shell, all of its oil was simply taken by the Soviet government.

Because the Russian Empire's resources and oil, it was all owned by foreigners.

So this idea that they needed somehow outside funding when all they had to do was just mobilized the working class and the peasantry to just rise up and seize the wealth. It's ridiculous. They didn't need any foreign funding. They were a highly organized organization for decades. I mean, you haven't even studied anything about how the Bolsheviks were organized. You don't know anything about their origins. You haven't even read any of Lenin's works or writings. You couldn't possibly understand what they were motivated or compelled by. You say that it was all about Jewish revenge against Gentiles. But have you ever read a single word of Lenin? Do you know anything about the actual

ideology or the outlook of Marxism? Do you know anything about the debates and polemics and

discussions that were happening in the early revolutionary period within Russia? Have you ever

actually set yourself to the task or even trying to comprehend or

understand Marxism? No, you're just resorting to these crazy claims. You mentioned this one Jewish rabbi

who claims that communism is Judaism. I could give you like dozens of more quotes by actual

reputable Christians, by the way, including the Pope, including Orthodox Christians.

That was 10 seconds right there. I'll do it that way since it'll be easier. I said 10 seconds, but I don't think has heard me.

So I'll unmute this space again, and I'll turn it over the true teller.

Because I think that's easier way to go. Because I think some of you guys, sometimes you guys aren't

hearing me when I say, uh, 10 seconds, 10 seconds. Do you want me to, do me to time it,

my own? Because I think it is your mics getting over a bed by their mics.

That could be it, too. That could be it too. It's up to you. If you want to go to this round. And then if it doesn't work, then we'll do the mute thing.

Sure. No problem. Uh, go ahead. True tell them. Whenever you're ready.

And I appreciate it.

Go ahead, Truth, Tum and Stano.

Sure, yeah, thank you.

So, look, nobody needs to take my word for it.

Let's look at what some historians said about Russia and the Tsars regime to see if it was so horrible.

Let's look what William Howard Taft said.

He in fact said that the Tsar had created

an incredible and advanced labor system

that was a boon to the entire Russian economy.

He was so impressed by it.

It was something he wanted to bring back home.

And even though

he was told

personally to

abrogate the treaty

with Russia

that had been in

place since 1832

for commerce

and navigation,

he didn't want to do it.

Of course,

commerce still forced him

to do it

because American Jews

were putting pressure

to cease relationships with Russia to try to isolate the country on the Dissaurus regime.

It's part of the reason why the instigated World War I to begin with.

Now again, let's look at some of what took place while these Jews took power in the USSR.

I like to let action speak, who cares what the words are,

what Lenin or Stalin, whoever said,

why would you institute an anti-Semitism?

The first thing that you do,

if you're not in charge,

you obviously want to protect yourself

as the ruling class.

Why would you be carving out

a Jewish oblast for yourself

if you're not in charge?

I thought communism was supposed to be based on egalitarianism and classless.

So why is a certain group being protected and given its own property?

Why is it the Stalin supported this establishment of a Zionist state close to 1947, 1948,

when he voted in favor of creating Israel.

And he also, of course, spoke Hebrew

and he spoke Yiddish as well. He was married

to Rosa Kaganovich, Kaganavish

his sister, and he had kids with her, of course.

And he was a, no one's going to call him a devout

Jew by any means, but he was, of course, ethnically Jewish himself. And what was a, no one's going to call him a devout Jew by any means,

but he was, of course,

ethnically Jewish himself.

And what these Jews like to do,

the ones that came from Russia,

essentially, is they like to hide their identity

because a lot of them came from the pale settlements

where they were restricted,

whether they could do for works.

They would pretend to convert over

to some kind of Christian's face so this way they could do for works. They would pretend to convert over to some kind of

Christian's face? So this way they could find other opportunities

within Russia. But in fact, they

remained Jews, crypto Jews, in fact.

So they absolutely were, I'll take

Putin's word for it. I'll take

Mr. President's word for it. I'll take Dimitri Gordon's word for it.

That the majority of the Soviet

regime was absolutely Jewish, because they benefited themselves.

Time. Brilliant. And then, Hans, go ahead for your two minutes.

Yep, sure. So here's the thing. You're claiming that Russia was this paradise before communism. One in four of every baby that was born died of infant mortality. That number was reduced by a quarter after the Soviet industrialization and modernization efforts.

So we were saying is a complete lie on that front.

Now, this idea that there was an anti-Semitism law is a complete fabrication,

just because you saw a JPEG somewhere on Twitter claiming,

it doesn't mean it's true.

There was never a single law in the Soviet legal code

at any point in the history of the Soviet Union

which specifically outlined

anti-Semitism. There was a general

law against the spreading of racial

enmity in general, so

this applies to Armenians, Aziris,

Georgians, and all the other minorities.

Nothing exclusively about anti-Semitism whatsoever.

It's a complete lie in fabrication.

I'm willing to go through the entire Soviet legal code throughout the 1930s, throughout the 20s,

throughout the 40s, 50s, 60s, whatever you want, and we can go through it one by one,

and you'll find there's absolutely nothing.

Now, regarding this claim that the Jewish autonomous of blast means that Jews were in power,

what about all of the other small ethnic minorities, not to mention all of the actual Soviet republics for Georgians, for Armenians, for

Azeris, for Ukraine, for Belarus, for so many other nationalities, all the ASSRs for all of the

sub sub-ethnic groups and nationalities within the SSRs. Everyone was given their own territory. They

experimented briefly with the idea of giving the Jews their own a blast. It wasn't even an ASSR. It

wasn't even an SSR. Somewhere deep in the Far East, like in Siberia, and it wasn't even popular among them.

How does that somehow explain that they're in power, that they're being given this small sliver of very infertile, in hospitable land all the way in fucking Siberia that this somehow proves

their in power doesn't even make any sense.

10 seconds.

Yeah, sure.

No, so yeah, 10 seconds.

Oh yeah, I mean, that's all.

Oh, okay, brilliant.

So, guys,

has and truth,

you've done three rounds

on this topic.

Do you want to do one

or two more rounds

or do you want to

move on to the next topic?

Sure.

No,

we can keep going.

You want to do one more round

on it at least?

Yes.

Okay, cool.

Let me... Okay, I'm about to start the timer. Yeah, cool. Let me, okay, I'm about start the timer.

Yeah, go ahead, truth.

Sure, yeah, thank you.

It's cute that he's concerned about the infant mortality rate under the Tsar,

while abortion was illegal on and off during

the communist regime and they did 200

million abortions killing unborn

babies. What about that? Did you know

the birth rates under the Tsar's rule for about

30 years was an average of 10

kids per woman? 9 to 10.

That came down to about 2 to 3 because, well, the USSR was constantly in state of war, essentially,

because they were a war raging expansionist state seeking to spread their demonic ideology to other countries.

And so the birth rates came down considerably, and they had a population of roughly 160 million

before 1917.

They're only at around

144 million now.

Explain that.

Because the population

was decimated so hard

by abortion,

by famine,

by the disease,

by, of course, legalization of homosexuality, famine, by the disease, by of course

legalization of homosexuality,

LGBT, degenrecy,

filth, usury, and he

tries to claim there was in debt during the USSR.

Of course they were in debt. What about the

land lease agreement from 1941, where they took a billion

dollars from America, and they took a billion dollars from America

and they took $11 billion more, otherwise it would have never

had any chance in World War II.

Did you forget? 20 million dollars from Jacob Schiff

in 1917? And then that obviously got paid back with the stolen gold.

You couldn't even figure out manufacturing or farming

or anything like that. You needed help. You signed a Apollo agreement with the Germans. You couldn't even figure out manufacturing or farming or anything like that. You needed

help. You signed a Rapalow agreement with the Germans.

You supposedly hated so much so they could help you build infrastructure.

And then you sign up on a deal with Henry Ford in 1929

because you couldn't figure out how to build cars,

tractors, trucks or do any type of farming.

All you knew how to do is

collectivize based on the minimal that you were doing.

Bourseraan, Russia

was considered the world's

bread garden because they were exporting

so much wheat, oil, barley, rye, etc.

I say, look at the numbers. And I posted

all this stuff. I've got over 42,000 posts to my name in many cetera. I say, look at the numbers. And I posted all this stuff. I've got over

42,000 posts to my name in many articles.

You can see that compared to what

the communists were under the SARS reign,

nobody starved to death.

10 seconds. There were no mass famines.

So you can clearly see the difference where

during one brain

you've got collectivization process

with the other, you're the world's garden basket

and you're a next exporter.

I appreciate that.

Okay, we're going to do one last round

on this, but it's, sorry, has the last go,

that's us. Sorry, one second, just give me

two seconds. Yeah, yeah, go. Len Lees was completely

negligible. It was all, 85%

of it came after the decisive

battles that actually turned the tide of the war

already. Historians estimate that

it only shortened the war maybe by

a few months, actually. So Lenleys was completely negligible. It was about 4% of the supplies that they had used. And it was old. It wasn't even used in time. So that is complete nonsense. It's one of the fucking rusophobic myths that are used by NATO and

Western countries today to downgrade

the Soviet effort during the war.

Now, regarding the problem of the demographic

crisis, people not having enough kids, well, when you

modernize and you industrialize, that tends to be

what happens. It's happening in Japan

today. It's happening in South Korea. It's happening in South Korea. It's even

happening in China. It's a global crisis in general. You can't blame communism specifically for that.

India, a very poor, impoverished country had a huge explosive birth rate. We know that very, very poor

kind of really, really backwards

countries tend to have high, high birth rates. This doesn't mean there's some kind of advanced

civilization. This whole thing about the legalization of homosexuality is complete bullshit.

They threw out the entire legal code in the early years of the revolution. That didn't

mean they institutionalized or tolerated homosexuality was still being persecuted under common law.

So that's another complete lie. By the way, Rosa Kaganovich never existed. Stalin never had a

Jewish wife. I don't know if I called that last time. The idea that there was usury under the Soviet Union is laughable. I mean, there was not

even any tolerance of market relations until the NEP, but the idea of usury, when the

central bank was nationalized and owned by the state, it's impossible that there could be

any usury. You want to know

where there was usury under the Tsar?

The Tsar's regime, first of all

was under the control of usurious powers

abroad, but usury was a

widespread practice, especially by Kulaks

after the Stilippan reforms, who

would prey on peasants in times of famine and

basically forced them to take out usurious loans in order to steal and gobble up their land, which is also the tactic capitalists were employing even before the Stolieppen reforms.

So it's complete nonsense.

The Tsarist famines, you had

1 million people die in the 1890s

Volga famine. You had 1897,

300 to 500,000 people die.

Okay, yeah, I can name more of a

brilliant. Yeah, three

seconds more, so we'll get that to truth.

Truth. Conc, concluding

remarks on this topic,

go ahead, we'll do 90 seconds

for concluding remarks,

and then we'll move on to the second topic.

So truth, go ahead.

Obviously, you'll have the extra

three seconds, so it'll be 93 seconds for you.

Go ahead, Truth.

Thank you. so I always say

judge on actions

who cares what anyone else says or thinks

and it's quite clear

that Russia was an industrialized country

a top four economy

with low tax rates,

high GDP, growing

at 10%, 8% to 10% per year

for 30 years before World War I.

They weren't under any type

of you, they had their own in-house treasury.

It was imposing at best, very low

interest loans that nobody nobody, it wasn't

subjecting anybody to, like, repossession of homes.

There were no market crashes for the most part of things were very stable, in fact.

You know what there wasn't during the rest of ours rain?

There were no mass famines.

They weren't killing people

by the millions. There was no Holodomir

from 1932 to 33 where they killed over

10 million Ukrainians, Belarusians

and of course Kazakhs by starving

them to death. That didn't happen. Why

were there 70 famines during the USSR

if they were so advanced and it was such

a great ideology? Why did communism

end up failing by 1991 if it was supposed

to be so successful? Why did they make so many

bad decisions like going into Afghanistan

and engaging in a 10-year

stalled war that led to just

murder of death on both sides.

A lot of bad decisions.

They couldn't afford to finance their debt anymore.

They actually left communism

of $100 billion in debt.

They were subtle with that because

they were spending 50% of their revenue

just on military

so this way they could go and

invade other countries and spread their filthy demonic

ideology so they could kill off

their governments in power

and install their own rogue regimes

and steal the resources of the land just as

their Jewish banks who are sponsoring them to do.

Thank you.

Perfect. That's perfect timing. And how's your concluding remarks on the first topic for 90 seconds?

Go ahead. Right. They had such a high military budget because they were being besiezed by the most powerful capitalist countries in the entire world. I mean, untold tens of of billions of dollars were being, even more than that, were being spent in a concentrated effort

by all the world's major capitalist powers, including the most powerful in the United States,

to destroy the Soviet Union and to destroy its ability to have any kind of international relations.

So that's why they had to have such a high

military budget. They learned the lesson of the

Nazi German invasion and they couldn't allow it

to ever happen again. They know that they were

being encircled and that at any given

moment they were going to be completely toppled

and destroyed by foreign rapacious capitalist powers.

So ask yourself the question, why did they need to defend themselves so aggressively?

Why was their system such a threat to the powers that be into the global system that prevailed?

Nobody seems to be asking these questions. Nobody seems to be asking the open and

obvious question of why are all of the countries today which are resisting the global system

mostly aligned, at least having some connection to the communist tradition and communist history.

There's a reason for these things. The notion that under the czar, that you didn't have usury, you didn't have debt, it's a complete laughable lie. Everything he's claiming is completely pulled out of his ass. The idea 10 million people died in the so-called Holodomor, a lie invented by the CIA-backed organization of Ukrainian nationalists,

is also laughable when estimates put the death toll much, much lower, and due to natural causes.

And after that famine, there was never another one again except the one that was a consequence of the World War II

so we can get into I'd love to

get into the weeds of these so-called statistics

that he's getting for that because

yeah okay go ahead

yeah I'm afraid of fun enough that's going to be the next topic

but guys I appreciate has and truth

that was the conclusion of the first topic. In the comment section, who do you think won the first round? Which is, were the Bolshevich Jewish? Was it Haz al-Din from the ACP party or was it truth teller in the comments so let us know

in addition to that remember the last round

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Marin, anything before we jump onto the second round?

And you can introduce the second round as all.

Yeah, you guys can hear me now, right?

Because I don't know what happened.

I had myself un-uted, but for some odd reason, it didn't work.

I unmuted on Twitter and on my roadcaster.

But they can hear you.

The issue is that, you know, when it has and truth are speaking and then you speak,

they can't hear you.

Yeah.

Yeah, I noticed that.

Because I was like looking back again and I saw that I was unmuted and it wasn't working.

So that's fine.

No biggie.

I'll just be here.

I'm running a poll on my chat as well right now with

who they think won uh the part one but yeah we'll go right into the second topic uh if you can introduce

it to the people i appreciate that my run yeah the second topic funny enough they have just touched on it

has and uh truth and i will get has to go first on this topic

and it is going to be and because i am interested in his contention and position on this is um

the second question is the holder more real and was it a genocide of Christians?

Hazeldane, we'll do two minutes.

Yeah, again, I think we'll keep it to two minutes.

Go ahead. Has you've got two minutes.

Do provide your position.

The Holder Moore was a term that was invented around the 70s and 80s by the Ukrainian diaspora that were Nazi collaborators and fled to the West where they were funded and backed by USAID and the CIA to basically make it seem like the Soviets had their own equivalent of the German Nazi Holocaust to put them on the same level and to demonize the Soviet Union in this way. It's a fabrication created by Ukrainian nationalists to call it a genocide. Now, the idea that it was somehow targeting Orthodox Christians because Christians were victims's nonsense because the majority of the population

at the time were Christian, so it follows that the majority

of the victims were also Christian. But that doesn't mean that all the victims were

Christian. There were Jewish victims of that same famine. It was a famine. It wasn't

intentional. It wasn't deliberate. And the Soviet government in 1933, when they received word of it, did everything in their power to relieve that famine and divert foreign exports back to give you famine relief, giving far more in terms of famine relief than they did for foreign experts,

which were just as dire and necessary,

because here's why they needed to export grain

in order to get mechanization and modernization of agriculture

with industrial equipment,

because that's the only thing that actually puts an end to famines in the long term. That's why following Stalin's industrialization, you never saw famines of this scale ever happen in the history of Russia ever again, because they managed to industrialize and modernize their economy. There was one that happened after World War

2 as a consequence of the devastation of the Nazis on Soviet industry, but you could hardly

blame the communist system for that. They lost about 27 to 30 million people. Now, reputable

historians never ever put the famine's death toll

at these ridiculous numbers

that he's talking about. He claimed that a hundred million

people died

according to the, because of the regime's intentional

policies. That's completely

ridiculous. I mean, even the authors of the Black

Book of Communism, who have since admitted that they were bullshitting, put the total of which includes China and every other communist state at $100 million. The idea that had happened in the Soviet Union alone, it's just complete nonsense. It's ridiculous.

nonsense. It's ridiculous.

Has was two minutes enough or do you want another minute to provide your thesis

or your position? Yeah, that

would help. Another minute would help.

Brilliant, let's do, because then it's the start

so people understand the foundational basis. Yeah, go ahead

to Hask, go for another minute and then we'll

give true three. Yeah, so the causes

of the famine of 32 were

the result of a poor harvest due to

environmental factors and it affected

many other regions, not just

Ukraine. It affected Turkey, Romania,

Bulgaria, and it affected other parts of the soviet union

like kazakhstan it was the result of a poor harvest now this was very common it was a constant

never-ending cycle for a thousand years in russia where because of a drought because of environmental

conditions there would be famine and everyone would just starve and nobody would give a shit. I mentioned the millions and millions who died of hunger and famine under the Tsar. Nobody cares about that. They all considered it a humanitarian catastrophe. So when it happened under the Soviet government, before they were able to industrialize

and therefore put an end to the famines in the long term, everyone's blaming communism for famine,

but famine was the norm before communism. It was the Soviet industrialization efforts

that actually put an end to famine in the long term.

I appreciate that.

Truth, you're going to get three minutes, so do, go ahead.

Thank you. So this is typical Jewish behavior blaming the victims.

Oh, it was natural causes, disease, it just happened.

No, it was deliberate.

There were 70 famines between 1917 and 1991.

Thel-Haldemir was just one of the bigger ones.

And again, in terms of acknowledgement?

Well, guess what?

The Ukrainian courts already acknowledged it and found posthumously both Kaganavish,

Poshiev and others who were working on their Stalin of guilty of the Holodomir famine.

So they went through all the records and the deaths that took place, realized it was by starvation,

it was by spread of disease because there was malnutrition

taking place deliberately, because of the process

of collectivization, because the economy was weak,

they weren't producing enough, they went

from not producing enough to being net

exporters, they weren't net exporters under the SARS

regime, because once again, these people couldn't figure out farming

because they were grossly incompetent.

Jews don't know how to do farming.

They're not good of manual labor.

That's why they always have to outsource

and get help from the likes of Henry Ford

and also the Germans, both through the Rapalot Treaty

and also even after World War II

and they brought in over 200 German scientists

to help them figure out their aeronautical division

so they could build fighter jets.

So you see it's because of gross negligence.

It was not just negligence.

It was a deliberate systematic effort

to kill people by starvation because that's the cheapest way to kill.

You don't even have to use a bullet.

And when they weren't killing people with starvation, they were using gas chambers.

It was in 1935.

In fact, that Davidovich Berg invented the first mobile gas chamber where he was connecting his exhaust pipe to the chamber

and killing off Russians that were within that chamber

as they were being transferred to the gulags

and if they survived they'd end up getting tortured with

one example of a torture routine they

used they would tie up the Russian slaves

and literally saw them in half

because that's how demonic these individuals

are. Just as they wiped out the

Tsar's entire family, him,

his wife, his five kids, and even

his dogs. They wiped them all out.

There's no due process because due process never

existed under the Tsar under the

Soviet regime because these people are violent, criminal, Judeo, sadists.

They worship Satan. And for them when they commit these types of sacrifices, it's towards their God, which is the devil, because that's who they ultimately worship.

Now let's look at some other proof

of the Hwadimir.

Why don't we look at the statements

of Arthur Kessler?

He was a Jewish journalist.

He came in as an outsider in 1932

and witnessed for himself

the horrific starvations

that he saw on the transit

that he was going from town to town

within what's modern day Ukraine, Belarus, and other cities.

Why don't we also look at the testimony of Gareth Jones?

He was a Welsh journalist.

He came in three times in the Soviet Union between 1931 and 33,

and he posted 20 separate articles

talking about the allot the alarm that took place

and the famine that was imposed

on these poor victims

victims of

vicious Jewish behavior

to steal the

fundamentals of food

oat, wheat, barley

and leave them with nothing to eat

because that's how vicious

these people actually are

so there's absolutely

no reason. I mean, but we have

both Ukrainian courts that have acknowledged

it took place and even put guilty

pleas on those who were in charge of it. And even

the Russian courts have acknowledged it as well.

So there's simply no disputing. We've got eyewitness

testimony and we've got the

court's guilty pleas. Thank you.

Thank you for that

truth. Guys, in terms

of the first round, we have got the tweet

in the nest. Who won the first round

were the Bolshevich Jewish?

Has al-Din and truth? The percentages are very similar at the moment. It has us on 52, Truths on 48. There's been 300 votes. So the tweet is in the nest. Vote how you please in terms of round one. There's 1,400 people listen to the space, and I believe about 3,000 on YouTube and Rumble. Do retweet and reshare the space. The way you do it is you go to my profile, it's the pinned tweet on the profile, and you just click the retweet button for those people who are unaware how to do it.

Great debate going on.

The second topic that we're speaking about, which the introduction has been done by Hasildeen

and truth teller is, is the Holdemore real?

And was it a genocide of Christians?

I'm going to give the mic straight back to Hos. You've got two minutes. Go ahead to start whenever you want. Siting the courts of modern

day Ukraine who came to the determination that it was a genocide as part of an explicit policy

help and funded by the CIA and USA to demonize Russia and accuse them of genocide is laughable as if they don't have biases. There's not a single Russian court that has ever determined that the Soviet government was guilty of genocide against Ukrainians or genocide in general, so that's a complete lie.

And moreover, you're selectively choosing these testimonies of anti-communists.

What about even people who are not even communist like Sir John Maynard, who was an official in the Indian government, who stated that the idea of three to four million

dead has passed into legend, that the notion that the calamity of, is comparable to the one

that happened in 1921 and 22, which was before collectivization, this is when the Kulocks

were basically allowed to run rampant

throughout the 1920s.

That's why

there was the famines

that happened after

1917, by the way,

and before the time

of the Soviet government

in general,

because the agriculture

wasn't collectivized.

They didn't have

mechanized agriculture. They didn't have mechanized agriculture they didn't have

tractors they didn't have modern machinery they didn't have any of the modern farming equipment

that was necessary to actually mitigate famines when environmental disaster struck you can't explain

why after this collectivization after thisization, the periodic famines they used to plague Russia for a thousand years came to an end. People stopped starving to death every time there was an environmental disaster because they had the modern technology and mechanized equipment to mitigate it and get much, much higher yields than before.

So this is what you're not understanding is that, yes, there were famines before the collectivization

efforts when Kulox were hoarding grain and acting as speculators and the so-called market

was allowed to be in command.

But that's an argument in favor of collective ideas.

And finally, I want to make the point, if this was

somehow a Jewish orchestrated thing, these were Jewish

satanic people eating babies and they were all Jewish,

how do you explain the fact that the main

personalities that were Jewish and Bolshevik

leadership actually opposed Stalin's plans for collectivization.

They sided with Bukharan, the common of Zinovian bloc, sided with Bukharin against Stalin's collectivization.

Trotsky was against Stalin's collectivization.

The Jews in the main were not in favor, that even Yagoda was against Stalin on this

So it's completely wrong

Okay for sure

Um

Truth

Go ahead

You've got an extra

9 seconds

For your rebuttal

Which is going to be

Two minutes and 9 seconds

I go ahead truth

Sure yeah Thank you Egota and yeshoff We're in and nine seconds. I got it truth. Sure, yeah.

Thank you.

Egotta and Yeshaf were in, on the deliberate starvation tactics used during the Holodomede, but not just

during the Holodomero.

I mean, this was going on in the 1920s as well.

They were using starvation as a deliberate tactic to starve people

of death because it was an easy way to kill people

because they came in, they invaded

with a vengeance to get back

at the Gentiles for what they felt

was, you know, the

antisemitism that they'd been facing for centuries

within Russia because they weren't allowed in

because of all the misbehaviors and criminality

they'd have been doing and the terrorist activities they were doing

before 1914, before

even, before 1917

because they're just committing so many acts of terrorism.

I once again, you only to take my work for it, it was Jacob

DeHan who actually came in

he was a Jew from America who came

in, sorry, Holland who came in and

witnessed how many Jews there were in the jails for committing

crimes. They weren't even that badly treated

or starving to death. Then they went off to Israel

and did his own thing. In terms of other testimony,

like I said, I'll remind the audience, eyewitnesses who have no reason to lie, witnessed the Holodomir.

Arthur Kessler witnessed the Haudimir.

He was Jewish.

He's already dead.

He had no reason to lie.

He was publishing his articles in real time and he got so disgusted

with the policies of these satanic worshippers that he left he didn't want to have anything

due and he was a marxist before he showed up in 1932 and what what reason would gareth jones have

to lie he was a welsh journalist and do you know what happened to him? He was killed in 1935 because the Jews paid off an assassin to take him out. So that's what took place because they didn't want the truth to come out. This is just another typical cover-up of the Jews because they never want to be held accountable for their crimes. And of course, whether it was 7 million or 10 million, they want to make sure that number

never comes out because it's above 6 million.

And that's a very special number to the Jews because they love to use that as a pretext

to be able to collect reparations to the state where they collectively take from the Germans

who weren't even around during

World War II to having even been accused of any

crimes because that's how these Jews roll.

They expect perpetual

punishment from those they claim

punish them, but they'll deny the crimes

they've committed on those involved. Let me tell you about

another crime that Jews also committed against the Germans. The me tell you about another crime. The Jews also committed

against the Germans. The same Soviet Jews.

And that's that they killed 11 million Germans after World War II

and a rape 2 million of the women between 1945

and 48, which they actively

denied because they engage in violent, event,

denial, a crime in the United States.

Appreciate that truth.

Go ahead for you two minutes.

He's acting like these people never had any

incentive to lie about the Soviet state and demonize

it in every possible way. When the Soviets

committed the worst possible sin in the eyes

of the global capitalist, leucers would repudiate and completely destroy the debt that was enslaving Russia before.

They nationalized all their resources. They took the oil from the major oil conglomerates.

They took all of the wealth and resources back from the foreign capitalists.

So of course there's a huge monetary and financial and material incentive by the capitalist governments of the world to do everything in their power to have agents completely lie about what was going on in the Soviet Union. You're conveniently leaving out other sources like Durante, Duranty, who completely, Walter Duranty, who completely repudiates the narratives that you're talking about here, that somehow there is some kind of uniquely atrocious thing going on because of the famine in 32-33.

Finally, this idea that it was deliberate and it was a policy of deliberate starvationary, once

again avoiding the elephant in the room, which is the question of, the policy of collectivization

was not supported by people like Yagoda.

Yagoda was not a friend of Stalin's, and Stalin actually had Yugoda's shot.

If anything, the fact that you

go to was ever in a position of power just

goes to show that Stalin didn't even fully

consolidate full and complete power

over the complete Soviet government.

He was someone who sided and was

more sympathetic with Bukharan and

that completely other block. By the way, if you don't know who Bukharan is, because you're illiter sympathetic with Bukharin and that completely other block. By the way,

if you don't know who Bukharan is because you're illiterate, Bukharan didn't want collectivization.

He wanted market mechanisms to prevail in the countryside and basically allow the Kulaks to go run rampant.

But despite that fact, this was causing a profound crisis in the Soviet Union because of the fact that they couldn't feed their people. They weren't producing enough grain because they were hoarding it in the countryside. There was no solution to this crisis other than collectivization in order to get the necessary capital to actually fund mechanization and modernization.

You're consistently ignoring the dire and pressing need to modernize and industrialize the economy,

not just for the sake of avoiding famines in the future, but also building up the military necessary

to resist future invasions like the Nazi invasion that did come in 1941

in time um truth uh go ahead with your rebuttal sure yeah thank you see now russia and germ Germany actually had a non-aggression pact signed in 1939, and it was Russia that was going to violate it through the Operation Groza that was planned three months before there was even an Operation Barbarossa where Germany was that ended up having to take a defensive position and protect their interests.

Otherwise, Russia was planning an invasion of Western Europe.

It's so funny to hear the USSR painted as a victim state.

They have to spend all this money on arms when they were the aggressor.

Communism in and of itself

is an aggressive violent ideology. Once again, it entails the violent overthrow of the establishment

to then take control of the means of production, take the resources, asset strip it, and then decimated

essentially. And that's essentially

what the Jews

in charge, those

funded by the

central bankers such

as Jacob Schiff,

Max Morberg,

Armand Hammer,

Ashberg, et cetera,

we're looking to do

as a flip side

to capitalism.

So this way they could

create cold Wars,

finance both sides, and win.

The party doesn't talk about, why is they talk about Maxim Lippenoff?

Who is he?

Or maybe he knows him better as Meyer Finkelstein.

He was the guy that was a little financing Stalin

and the whole operation. He was the guy Stalin

at the answer to

he used the arm of the Rothschilds

and name that rarely gets mentioned

so he was the guy calling the shots

and he got to stick around well longer than Stalin

did in fact go figure imagine that

so we see who's actually in charge has always been

the Jewish banksters

and he couldn't deny that they did take debt.

There was a line lease agreement for a billion

than $11 billion more

because they couldn't even afford

to defend themselves,

much less be on the aggressive side

because they had to be financed

by Jewish banksters who owned them

just like they owned them

in 1917, just like it owned them in 1917,

just like it was Henry Ford

how to come and teach them how to build tractors,

cars and other infrastructure

because they couldn't do anything on their own.

That led to the starvation of their own people.

So whether you want to say it was deliberate

or it's because of an incompetence, it's on them because

they were the leadership and they couldn't figure out how to do farming and feed their people.

But they actually did.

They were doing collectivization and stealing whatever it is they were making under the circumstances that they put themselves in deliberately because they jailed all of their specialists and new evidence forming.

Okay.

Brilliant.

So we're going to do the concluding remarks on Bihaz and Truth 90 seconds.

How's is going to get an extra five seconds because truth on the other five seconds would be 95

seconds, but the concluding

Mark remarks by

Haas and truth are on is the

Holder more real and

were Christians persecuted

or genocided? Go ahead.

Has your 95 seconds.

First he claims that it was a deliberate policy of starvation.

Then he's just claiming that it was just because they were incompetent and didn't know how to farm.

Which one is it?

You're completely contradicting yourself here.

And it's totally incoherent.

And if you were correct that they were fundamentally incompetent and didn't know how to farm whatsoever

Why was that the only actual famine that wasn't a direct cause of the war which was the one that happened after World War II in 1947?

This was the only one that happened if they didn't know how farm, you would have think the famine would have continued

on for the rest of the 1930s, and it didn't.

It only happened once, and they quickly relieved it,

and it came to an end. So you're completely

wrong about that. You're making the claim that

the Soviets were planning a war

of aggression against the Nazis before Operation

Barbrose.

There's zero evidence to substantiate that whatsoever.

You just totally pulled it out of your ass.

Now, why would the Soviet Union have developed the country so much modernized?

They gave people education, built up so much infrastructure,

improve the quality of life so drastically as they did, caloric

consumption, literacy rates, health

care, building twice as much hospitals that

existed under the czars. If the goal was to

Assep, strip it, and completely

devastating and destroy it, the opposite happened. They built a

prosperous, thriving, and very powerful civilization,

became the number two superpower in the entire world.

They did the opposite of we were saying.

They didn't ask to strip it and devastated.

They built it up to become a nuclear-armed superpower

that made the entire established colonial world tremble in fear.

Now, the idea that Stalin was answering to anyone whatsoever is a joke,

but the idea that he was answering to some random foreign Jewish banker or whatever you're talking about,

just some random schizoid nonsense he pulled out of your ass.

Now, finally, the Soviets didn't take on debt

in the 1930s or the 40s, because

Len Lease was actually never paid back and it wasn't even

decisive in winning the war's outcome, which I've demonstrated

already.

Appreciate that.

Sorry, truth. Truth, go ahead. You've got 93 seconds for your appreciate that sorry truth

truth go ahead you've got 93 seconds

for your concluding remarks

on this specific topic which

is is the hold of more real

and were the Christians persecuted

well in summary, yes,

Laudemar was real based on eyewitness testimony,

based on the decision in the courts,

both in the Duma in Russia

and also in Ukraine.

So I don't know why Russia would shoot itself in the foot,

acknowledge a crime that would hurt its reputation

when it was the USSR if it wasn't

actually true. And that's, of course, in addition to the witness testimony from Arthur Kessler

and both Garrett Jones as well, who saw the exact same thing and documented in real time.

And it was unfortunately, Garrett Jones' that led unfortunately Garrett Jones'

demise at the tender age

of around 30 years old because

well that's just what Jews do. They like to sacrifice

Gentiles, especially the ones that tell the truth.

She says, I have a bounty on my head for the same

reason. The Jews like to silence those who

speak up against them and they

hired these types of Shaboskoy here to smear them. And he keeps telling me that I'm pulling stuff

out of my rear end. I have not even once insulted him. And that's fine. So in summary, we can

conclude the Holodomeroa was absolutely happened. And it wasn't even the first famine. It was one of the biggest famines that took place there were so many of them you lose track and there were absolutely jews involved with it now has there been infighting among jews let's discuss that for a second yes there has of course there has because they also operate as double agents you goda and yeshhov weren't executed because of the crimes they committed they were executed because they were double agents. Egoda and Yeshov weren't executed

because of the crimes they committed.

They were executed because they were double agents.

Geotah was also diamond smuggling as well

and he was subject to, he was doing corruption.

He was a corrupt guy.

And so Stalin laid punishment for that reason

because he was no longer loyal.

It wasn't because of the crimes they were committed.

So Jews will even double cross each other.

That's all that shows.

It's not because they were against the policies.

They're all for it.

Appreciate that truth.

And that is the conclusion of round two.

The tweet is in the nest. Who won round two? Is the Holder more real and was it the genocide of Christians?

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any comments

before we jump on to

round three?

No, I'm doing a poll up on my end here we got about 2,500 here between rumble and

youtube um watching live and then we got another i think you said 14 or 1300 here on the space

so now it's it's good a good turnout man especially for something uh this topic which is very um particular and uh you know

direct but it's good for sure i think there's a lot of people learning a lot of information so i

really appreciate has and truth providing people with this uh debate the third topic is, and has been something that's been

covered by both of them in the previous aspects of the debate, I'm going to go for truth first,

is, and it is communism Jewish? And again, it'll be three minutes to lay down the foundation I think people

appreciate that I've got a message just saying three minutes to lay down the

foundation of the argument and then we'll go back to two minutes but yet truth

three minutes and you'll have to go with topic number three which is is communism

a Jewish

construct? Go ahead, truth.

I mean, as I explained before,

it absolutely is, because the Jews say it is.

So take them in their word. Otherwise, you'll

be anti-Semitic, right? So Jews say

it's communist, I'll repeat a couple of the quotes I read

earlier. The Jewish elements

provide the driving forces for communism.

That's Dr. Oscar Levy. Some

may call it communism, but I call it what it is

Judaism. That's Rabbi Stephen

Weiss and Bobby Fisher said the exact

same thing. He had an IQ over 180.

I don't think anyone else

has IQ that high and he recognized communism for

what it was, a Jewish construct.

Now, in terms of actions,

I will say, look at the actions. What were the actions

of the comments? Well, we know the commerce manifestos

were drafted by Jews. Carl Marx, Moses

Mordecai Levy. Of course,

Moses S. and Frederick Ingalls was a Shabloskoy.

So, yes, it was drafted by Jews,

both the Communist Manifesto and Das Kapita.

We know that it was funded by Jews.

I've already named the bankers. He can't name any

other. He thinks things just happen magically

and they're just not funded. Oh, no, they didn't need any other. He thinks things just happen magically and they're just not funded.

Oh, no, they didn't need any funding.

People just work for free and otherwise, you know, they're willing to go kill for free.

Well, they didn't work that way.

Jacob Schiff, Max Warburg, of course, Arminhammer, and Ashberg were the ones who funded

Congress.

So Jews funded it.

Jews are the ones who drafted it and was Rothschild, who was behind the whole time, enabling the whole thing as the head of the Federal Reserve at that time.

And of course it was Jews that disproportionately benefited from it.

They're the ones who instituted the anti-Semitism law as soon as they came into power so they could protect themselves.

They were the ones who built up settlements for themselves in Ukraine. They were the ones who carved out the Jewish Oblast in 1934. They are the ones who were sacrificing Gentiles Christians, especially about 100 million of them, killing over 200,000 priests and monks and destroying about 54,000 churches as well.

But you know what?

They didn't touch any synagogues or Jewish community centers or Jewish schools.

Those were never touched in the secret language they speak.

Yiddish or Hebrew, Stalin could speak at all.

The leaders could essentially speak those languages.

They communicated very well with the Israeli leadership as Stalin

did when he talked to both Goldemeyer and

David Bangarian. So communism, yes,

is absolutely a Jewish construct.

And it's the flip side to Zionism. They work

together essentially to destroy countries. They're both

expansionists.

And they don't care about the Gentiles that they kill.

Just like the Israelis don't care about the Palestinians they killed.

The Soviet Jews don't care about any of the Russians,

Kazakhs, Belarusians, or any of the Gentiles they killed there.

And that's why I stand by it, that communism is absolutely a Jewish construct.

Thank you.

I appreciate that truth.

As you've got three minutes,

go ahead with your rebuttal.

Is communism Jewish?

So he cites these random Jews

that, by the way, the Jew that he cite also claimed that Nazism was actually Jewish and spirit, so he's not very reputable. But there are far more Christian authorities, including popes like Pope Francis, as well as various Orthodox authorities, especially patriarchs that were under Soviet rule,

and even before, like Patriarch who said that Lenin had a Christian soul, especially the patriarchs that came afterwards.

It's more and more common for Christian authorities that were in proximity with communist movements to compare communism with Christianity, actually. The modern-day Communist Party of the Russian Federation, led by Genetti Zeyuganov, actually constantly calls communism Christian in spirit. And he works in tandem in collaboration with the Orthodox Church.

And it's not an uncommon view whatsoever in Russia today to compare the two. So finding these random people that are claiming,

oh, this or that is Jewish, Nazism is Jewish, communism is Jewish. What about all the Christians who compare it to Christianity?

Now, finally, I want to make sure that everyone can catch this guy in his lie. He said that Moses Hess wrote the

Communist Manifesto. The only person who was Jewish that had anything to do with the Communist

manifesto was Karl Marx. Hesse didn't have anything to do with it. And as for who funded

Carl Marx, he was funded by his Aryan friend, Friendred Engels, who owned a factory. And there's

letters that confirm Marx constantly asking his friend for money.

Marks also worked as a journalist

on the side. He wasn't funded by any bankers whatsoever.

Speaking of bankers like

Jacob Schiff that he's mentioning,

well, U.S. Department files actually

confirmed that investment banker, Jacob Schiff,

was actually against the Bolshevik regime.

He supported the February Revolution, not the Bolshevik Revolution, two distinct events.

The idea that the 200,000 priests were killed is nonsense because there wasn't even 200,000 priests before the Bolshevik Revolution in the first place. There wasn't even that many that existed.

The Jewish religion was persecuted by special departments that were meant to modernize the Jewish community under the Soviet government.

And that's a fact that atheism was promoted wholesale not just against christians but also

against jews the soviets were consistent opponents of zionism they condemned zionism

Stalin condemned zionism as a reactionary movement of bourgeois nationalism the soviet press

constantly denounced the Zionist

efforts, and the Soviet government was actually the one that

exposed the Balfour Declaration, which

was supposed to be secret, actually the Sykes

Pico, which was supposed to be secret.

And they

constantly said that the international

capitals class was trying to

create and traffic

all the Jews into Palestine.

So they were exposing that and completely opposed

to it. So he's completely lying about that. Now, regarding

the UN vote to partition Palestine, that happened in

1947 in the Soviet role in that

I can get into it. But no, communism

is not fundamentally Jewish and it's ridiculous

to assert that when the overwhelming majority of

communists who have ever existed were not

Jewish. There were some

prominent Jewish involvement

in the socialist movements in Europe, in Western Europe, in the socialist movements

in Europe, in Western Europe, in the late

1800s and early 1900s.

But throughout the rest of the 20th century, you're

seeing Africa, Middle East,

Asia, you know, you say...

Yeah, okay, sure.

Appreciate that.

Truth, you're a bottle.

You get an extra five seconds.

It'll be two minutes and five seconds.

Go ahead, Truth.

Sure, yeah, thank you.

Stalin was an absolute friend of the Zionists and the Jews.

The weapons he took from Germany in 1945,

he gave to the Zionist Jewish gangs. He was smuggling him through Czechoslovakia to help them

wipe out and kill Palestinians.

He claims to care about.

Clearly, he doesn't know Stalin that well.

And why would the USSR vote in favor of a Jewish

state? And why would they convince five

other countries in Eastern Europe to do the same

if they weren't Zionists? And why were they

bringing in the foreign, why were the first country

to recognize Israel? Why is it that Goldemeyer

was the foreign minister to the USSR if they weren't Zionists?

Why is it David Ben GurGurion was congratulating

Stalin for 33 years of

communist devastation because he looked forward to doing

the exact same thing to the Palestinians.

Because, hey, Jewish minds think alike. Let's go kill

off the natives of the land, steal the land for ourselves,

assets strip it, and get

rich quick quick essentially.

Now let's talk about some more about

the famines that were taking place,

led essentially by Jews. In fact, there was

absolute discrimination. Naftali Frankel

was one of the popular Gulag administrators.

Stalin had a particular favoritism

towards him because he came up with the idea of the nutrition scale cycle that essentially entailed starving off the least productive slave in the gulag but then rewarding the most productive one with the meal so if you didn't work hard enough as a slave, making nothing essentially

going back to your shoebox of an apartment,

you'd be slowly starved to death.

This was Neftali Franco. When he got caught trying

to escape before he became gulad administrator,

he used with like three other Gentiles. You know what happened

to the Gentiles? They were executed.

What happened to Neftali Frankl?

He got rewarded because you see there was a preferential treatment when it came to Jews.

And he was one of Stalin's favorites because he starved off so many Gentiles because that's just what they do by design.

Now, going back in general

to speak about

Zionism and communism and whether it's...

Oh yeah, he mentioned Karl Marx as well.

I never said that Moses has wrote the Communist

manifesto. I said they collaborated.

Of course, it was both Engels and Moses

Mordeca. Lave., called by his Jewish name.

Why is that? What do the Jews always change your name?

Ten seconds.

Why is that? What do they have to hide?

Vladimir Lenin is Vladimir Rulian-Lat Blanc?

Did you know that his grandfather on his maternal side was actually a Jew?

And he tried to change his name.

Why is Stalin change his name?

To Jakob-Jukish-Fil.

Time.

To Stalin.

Appreciate that truth.

Has, for your

robot, you've got an extra

four seconds,

two minutes and four seconds.

Go ahead,

has.

Yep, sure.

So regarding the checks

who smuggled weapons to the Zionists,

they were actually shot in the Slankski trial,

and this was leading up to the anti-Zionist purges

that were happening under the late Stalin government

when they were finding out that there was

an attempt of by Zionists

to infiltrate the communist

aligned governments. So the Czechs who

smuggled weapons weren't doing it on behalf of Stalin.

They were doing it in secret and they were shot

for it. Now, the Soviets did not

support Zionist ideology. What they supported

was a joint Arab Jewish state with equal

rights, not an exclusively Jewish one.

And they were being completely lied to by people like Ben Gurian, when in reality it was the Ergun, Leahy terrorists that were actually in control.

And the Soviets caught wind of this.

They supported efforts to actually sabotage the Leahy and Ergun nationalist, fascist,

fascist terrorists, and completely sabotage them at every turn. There were Jews in the gulag who were sent to the

gulags. If the gulags were just meant for Gentiles, why were there thousands of Jews in them?

And the notion of the slave stuff of killing off the weakest, again, you just pulled it out

of your ass.

Sorry to hurt your feelings.

The per capita rate of people in the gulags in the Soviet Union, by the way, has never

actually surpassed the one that exists right now for the U.S. prison rate per population.

So there's more people per capita than U.S. prisons than there ever was in Gulac.

So stop trying to make Goulog seem like they were the worst thing ever.

They were bad conditions when the material conditions overall in the Soviet Union were bad.

It was never the intention to torture

anyone sadistically. And by the way, Jews were regularly executed, but that doesn't matter to you

because you're just going to pin that to Jewish infighting. How convenient. It's a complete

way to avoid the illogical inconsistencies in your arguments. Marx wasn't even fundamentally

Jewish besides his blood and his antristry,

which shows that for you, Judaism

is a racial thing. Marx was raised

as a Lutheran. He was a devout follower of

Christ before studying under Hegel

and Arian, and it was actually Hegel

who inspired him to abandon

religion. And if you don't understand the

background of Hegelianism and how that was so

fundamental to Marx's transformation,

you're emphasizing people like Moses Hess

who Marx and Engels regularly made

fun of and didn't respect and had nothing to do with the Communist

manifest, which which ridiculous.

Moreover, it's a widespread myth that Lenin's

grandfather was Jewish. It's actually not true,

but even if it was, he didn't even know

about it if it was true.

I appreciate that. Truth,

you've got two minutes

for your rebuttal.

Go ahead, Shuf.

That's amusing that he didn't know about it.

But his sister knew about it. Lenin's sister knew, and in fact wrote a letter about it and knew that her grandfather, maternal side was Jewish.

Lenin absolutely knew as well.

And look at his video glee. He looks like a Jew. Now, maternal side was Jewish, Lenin absolutely knew as well.

And look at his physiognomy.

He looks like a Jew.

Now, with respect to Karl Marx, why did he change his name from Moses Mordecai Levy?

Why was he given a Jewish name for the plan was to become a Lutheran and then just abandon religion altogether?

It's a little confusing.

What's going on here? Maybe it's under the guys

are pretending to be atheists, pretending to be

Lutheran, because well that's the only way you can

really get ahead because at that time Jews

were subject to different types of treatments

because they kept getting caught committing criminal

activities as they've been doing for

2,000 plus years and that's the reason why

they've been kicked out of 109 countries

1,034 times

from various crimes entailing things such as

usury spreading degeneracy and filth

pushing atheism

and of course now of communism, one of the main

Jewish constructs, that's the whole point of today's debate.

So once again, there was no answer about the Neftali Frankel that I mentioned.

He was the one who came up with the starvation tactics in the 1920s.

This had nothing to do with, say, oh, crop failure or whatnot and to

claim that it was natural, no, it wasn't natural causes. They were deliberate starvation

tactics to kill off the population. And in fact, it got to a point where even though they'd

allowed for abortion, they actually had to ban abortion.

I think it was close to that. I'll get the exact

day. Around the 19th, right after

around World War, not just World War II, even in around close

to 1930s, because they were running

out of people because they'd kill so many. I believe it was after

1936. Well, we got to stop on the

abortions. We need more people. We've killed too many. I believe it was after 1936. He said, well, we got to stop on the abortions. We need more people.

We've killed too many.

So that's an obviously indicator.

Not only did the Holodomeres and all the famines take place, they'd kill too many people,

and they ended up having to take people out of jail to help them out with farming,

to help them out with things they just weren't able to do, because

again, the Jews that were there didn't understand anything

about engineering, building infrastructure.

They relied on slave labor and helped from

the likes of Henry Ford, help from the Germans,

of course, through the Treaty of Apollo, and of course,

help from the Germans through Operation Vladimir

when they brought in 200 scientists

to help them build things because they couldn't do anything

on their own, unlike during the time of the Tsar

where they weren't dependent on others to build things

for themselves. Thanks for that truth.

And then let's go for

has got two minutes for your bubble?

Yeah, well, we have proof that Lenin was actually a sincere...

Sorry, that Marx was actually a sincere Christian in his youth because he would write poems about Jesus.

He would talk about Jesus and how much he was sincere about his faith.

No one was forcing him to do that.

His father did convert to Christianity. Maybe it was because to avoid the restrictions that were placed on Jews. Maybe it wasn't. But we know that Marx was a sincere Christian, and he was actually a student and disciple of the Christian German philosopher, George Hegel. So you don't know anything about Hegel because you don't read books. But if you did, you would understand why Marx made the transition to communism as a consequence of his study under Hegel. Now, the notion that Frankl somehow proves that there was Jewish control. Frankl was appointed by Yagoda,

and Frankl was one of the Gulag administrators, but Yagoda was actually shot, and he was removed from power.

Frankl was also removed from power. So what does that prove? How could these people be in power if they're being removed?

You're going to peg that up to Jewish infighting. What was the infighting about? so what does that prove how could these people be in power through being removed

you're going to peg that up to jewish infighting what was the infighting about then

explain it to us concretely

the notion that lenin's sister knew that he was jewish

that was with the source of the claim

that people make that uh... l grandfather Alexander Blank who was a

vulgar German and Tatar was Jewish but that's a complete fabrication and

there's no evidence for it now the notion about Henry Ford them needing

Henry Ford every single industrialized country in the world relied upon the accumulated scientific knowledge of mankind. Nobody just creates the whole inventions of mankind by stretch. Henry Ford relied upon the inventions of the British engineers and scientists that came before him, and they in turn relied upon the inventions

that came before them.

The idea that they were engaging in trade practices,

where they were getting mechanized equipment

and cars and stuff,

they weren't taking this out on credit.

They weren't doing it.

It wasn't being given to them for free.

They had to pay for it on the international market, and they had to do it. It wasn't being given to them for free. They had to pay for it on

the international market. And they had to

do it to speed up industrialization. They only had

10 years. And the 10 years later,

what would we see? We see the German invasion.

So they had to do it. And the notion that

trading for foreign machinery and foreign technology to rapidly

assist and prop up your own industrialization modernization efforts what's wrong with that it's

no country on the world can just invent everything from scratch are yeah for sure

for sure so we're going to do concluding remarks on this topic, which is, and we're going to go to truth.

Truth is going to get, it's going to be 90 seconds, but obviously I'm going to give truth an extra nine seconds because it has one over there.

So it'll be one minute and 39 seconds for your truth.

On the third topic, which is

is communism Jewish

go ahead, truth for your concluding remarks

on this topic.

So in conclusion, communism is

absolutely Jewish. Jewish scholars have stated

this. Bobby Fisher stated this.

One of the smartest chess players in the world. It was ethnically Jewish, of course.

And we will look at the actions one more time. Of course, communism was drafted by Jews.

Moses Mordecai Levy. Yeah, yeah, Marx was such a devout Christian. But then he became an atheist.

So he went from writing songs about Christ to disavowing him.

A little confused, man.

Who knows what he was on?

Perhaps it was because he was getting funded by the Rothschild.

I have the actual copies of the checks he received.

So maybe he was actually devoted to money first like a typical Jew.

And he absolutely did collaborate with Moses Hess in addition to drafting both the Commerce Manifesto and also Das Kapital on how to screw over Gentile countries because the Jews just don't really like to work.

None of the so-called proletariats

were even factory workers. Most of them were just

writers. Both Stalin and Lenin were writers

just living off realties from their books.

They never got their hands dirty. What did they even know about

the factory worker in general?

But now, this whole need to even need communism

in the first place, there was never a need

Because again during the SARS reign

Things were great

He created a top four economy around the world

With advanced labor rights

According to well a US president

Who came to visit

William Howard Taft

Who had nothing but good things to say and high

praise about the incredibly advanced,

sophisticated, and benevolent labor system

the Sard established

for all of his citizens

who he viewed as equals. And people could

advance very quickly if they just worked hard on merit,

but they didn't even need to work as hard because taxes were so low at only 2%.

There was hardly any inflation, hardly any unemployment.

And they were mass exporters of almost every major agricultural product, an industrial product that was out there.

They were already industrialized.

But when the Soviets showed up, they couldn't figure anything out for themselves.

And that's why they failed miserably and start

people off.

Preacher that, and then has a 92

seconds for your concluding

remarks on is communism Jewish?

Sure. Far more Christian scholars

and far more actual heads of Christian churches,

including the Pope, claim that the essence of communism is actually Christian. So that outweighs

any of the fringe and marginal people he's trying to cite that we're Jewish claiming this.

There's no evidence whatsoever that suggests that Marx was funded by the Rothschilds.

It didn't even make sense, by the way.

And yes, Marx became an atheist

just like Frederick Engels did,

who was an Arian and also a Christian.

And that was because of their engagement

with Hegelian philosophy

and the young Hegelians. Therealian philosophy and the young Higalians.

There was nothing Jewish about the young Higalian movement.

You don't know about these things because you don't read books.

Moses Hesse had nothing to do with Das Kapital.

I doubt you could even cite a single sentence from the Capitol because you probably never even read, not only have you not read

capital, you probably never read a single page of that book. Stop talking about it if you don't even,

you're not even familiar with the basics. You're coping about Tsarist Russia being some kind of

like advanced, lost Atlantean civilization which had spaceships

and was like this beautiful paradise

or whatever it was a total shit hole

majority of people lived no different than slaves

and were treated basically as cattle

one and four of all babies that were born died

and it was basically a total

shit hole and this first opportunity that the majority

of people got to rise up and depose the state, they took it right away, because that's how

discontented they were with it. This was beginning with the revolutionary movements in the late

19th century, which was because the peasants were just starting

to spontaneously rebel against the state in the government, even in the middle of the 19th century.

So it was deeply unpopular and they overthrew it. It was very popular that revolution they had.

I appreciate that.

That was the end of

round three.

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Was it Hazardine or was it truth teller? The tweet is in the nest.

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going to be starting with Hazaldine.

The round four is going to be, did Hitler have an...

I appreciate my...

Did Hitler have an alliance with Zionists? So that is going to be the fourth round, which is, did Hitler have an alliance with Zionists? And we're going to start off with Hasl Dean. It'll be a three-minute start as per war we've done previously and this is round four sorry go ahead

to has yeah hitler absolutely did have an alliance with the zionists because of the havara agreement

which uh was an agreement between the nazis and the zionists within uh then palest Palestine in order to facilitate the transfer

of Jews from Germany to Palestine.

Now, Hitler may have written in Mind Kampf

one thing, but he acted in a completely

different way when he was actually in

power. And by the way, the Nazis

had no problem with

Zionism whatsoever in private they engaged in rhetoric publicly against it

during the war and and in public elsewhere because of their you know general

public rhetoric against Jews but the truth is that the Nazis were primarily

interested in enslaving the peoples of Eastern Europe and the Slavs and basically putting them under

the boot and stealing all their resources. And the whole thing about Jews was just to dupe

the German masses and trick them into turning

their anger and frustration away from the German capitalists. Without the German Nazi-led

crimes against the Jewish people in Eastern Europe, massacring them and displacing them in Poland

and elsewhere, the Zionist entity would have never even been possible. The mass migrations that we saw after World War II would have never even happened were not for the Nazi crimes. And to this day, Zionists use the crimes of the Nazis to legitimate the so-called state of Israel and the Zionist cause in general.

And it's precisely the racialization of Jews and treating them as this race, racial other, and so on,

which contributes to the arguments of Zionists, which alleges that Jews are a nationality rather than a religion.

So in every possible respect that you look at it, Nazism and Hitler and Zionism are deeply intertwined and deeply connected.

And without that, there would have never been any kind of Israel.

And that's a fact, even despite the fact of the Havara Agreement,

they would have never been a state of Israel, were it not for the Nazis rise to power

and their crimes against the Jews and their attacks against the Jews.

And that's why Theodore Herzl himself said that the anti-Semites will become our most dependable friends and the anti-Semitic countries are deepest allies. And he said, we want to emigrate as a respected people. And the Ergun and Leahy thugs that were foundational to the

Zionist state, they respected fascism.

They loved Mussolini's Italy. They even

respected Nazi Germany. And they wanted

to have their own Jewish version of fascism

within Palestine, where they would

treat the Palestinian people the same way

that the Nazis were treating the people of Eastern Europe, the Slavs, as so-called intermension.

So the parallels between Zionism and Nazism are so obvious and clear.

And when Nazis claim all these things that all Jews believe in these Goyim is inferior and subhuman.

That's actually Nazi ideology and it's something

they actually share with Zionists.

Appreciate that,

Haas. Truth,

three minutes for your

opening remarks on whether Hitler had an alliance with Zionism.

Sure, yeah, thank you.

The Havar agreement was a one-off in 1933, which 60,000 Jews, less than 2%

of the population

of the time were transferred

over to Palestine

as a last option

Madagascar wasn't available.

Otherwise, well,

I mean, can't really have it

both ways.

Zionism loves the Jews.

95% of Jews are

essentially Zionists

or the rest of them

are essentially atheists

or who knows what they are

because they keep moving.

The goalposts, they'll pretend to be whatever they need to be

to fit in and take what they want by

force. That's how communism.

It's how Zionism operates.

They'll tell you whatever you need to hear to get away

the crimes are going to commit.

Now let's talk a little bit about what National Social

Manx actually was, and probably doesn't know much

about it. It's based on Dr. Gottfried Feathers

25-point plan, which entailed

getting rid of the Uziarius bansters who were Jews,

of course, getting rid of the filth and degeneracy which is of course

spread and prevalent among the Jews

who are destroying Germany in the

Weinemar Republic the likes of of course

Magnus Hirschfeld who was doing transgender

operations and of course the likes of

Max Horkheimer and Herbert Marqueuse who were running the Frankfurt School who, the likes of Max Horkeimer and Herbert Markeuse

who were running the Frankfurt School, who

were the source of all the isms and the divisions.

Because they actually destroyed Germany while they were there

as they were destroying Russia at the exact same time.

And of course, it was the Jews that caused

the Great Depression of 1929.

When Max Warburg and his cohorts

decided to start selling off everything

around February of 1929,

and that by October of 1929,

they caused a massive market crash,

25% unemployment in the States,

31% unemployment in Germany.

Yeah, you think that might piss some people off?

It's not the people just hate Jews.

They just hate their bad criminal behavior

through the Uziari's banks.

The Jews were running and profiting from

by causing market crashes and market contractions

while screwing over regular Gentos

who were losing their homes.

So, yeah, by the time

the National Socialists

were democratically elected,

unlike the Judeo-Communists

who came by violent invasion,

what did they have to face?

Well, they got rid of these Uris bankers right away.

They started burning up all the books,

all the degenerate

books that Magna

Magdice Hirschfeld and the other

cohorts had drafted. They eliminated

the generacy and they enabled all

Germans to have a job. They enabled

all Germans to have a home.

And they enabled all Germans to have a home and they enabled all Germans

to have a successful better standard of living

such that by 1937, 1938,

Germany was essentially a superpower

because they actually had human capital,

they weren't punishing their own people,

and there were in fact many Jews who benefited

under national socialism. There's 150,000 Jews that served under many Jews who benefited under national socialism.

There's 150,000 Jews that served under Hitler's army.

Hitler's doctor was a Jew, his driver was a Jew.

He didn't have anything personal against Jews.

His problem was with Judeo-communists, because antisocialism runs counter to Judeo-communism,

which entails the violent overthrow of the establishment

and, of course, to control the

means of reduction, whereas national socialisms

are serves to serve the greater good with

minimal government in place

just to help the people, not steal from the people.

One other example that was great with the national socialists,

how do they give people a home?

Well, it started a 1% prescribed interest rate, but if you had four kids, no mortgage, you had a free home, a real home,

you had a real job guaranteed, and they were able to bring unemployment from 31% in 1933 to zero,

inflation from mass inflation

down to zero as well and of course

a happy, healthy standard living, free education,

free healthcare and traditional family values.

Appreciate that.

Go ahead with your

rebuttal on this topic

and you'll have two minutes and three seconds.

The Havar agreement wasn't some one-off marginal thing.

It was foundational and absolutely fundamental for the creation

of what would become the Zionist entity.

Now, I love how he says that he's not going to take Marxist at their word

and read any Marxist theory or care about

what Marx and Lenin actually say. But when it comes to Nazism, all he's going to do is take

these liars at their word and just everything they say is fact. But what did the Nazis actually

do when they took power? They never nationalized the banks. The central

banking system that was private was still in place. The Nazis were still paying back the

usurious loans. Even from Versailles, they just restructured it in a completely different

way, and they helped pay it back through the gold that they looted from Czech Slovakia,

which was helped done by the central bank of London.

So it's a complete lie that the Nazis were somehow doing away with usury, when in fact they were still beholden to the usurious financial capitalists centered in Wall Street in the city of London.

Moreover, the whole Nazi economy and all of the growth that was actually driving it was taken

out on credit, on debt, and on usury, and it was all from the military industrial complex,

meaning the only way, the only expectation these financial capitalists had of ever being

paid back was when the Nazis built enough arms and built enough machinery to invade Eastern Europe to create the so-called Leibbons-Rom so they could loot all the natural resources and wealth in Eastern Europe and in Russia to pay back the capitalists that they took out loans and credit from

to build their whole industries and everything.

The whole economy was driven by war. The whole

economy, the only thing that carried it,

the only reason Germans weren't starving,

the only reason that their economy was

growing in any capacity whatsoever was driven

by military

rearmament and production facilitated by wall street facilitated by the global

capitalist class with the express purpose of looting devastating and destroying

the territories of the former austro-hungarian empire and the uh so, and the destruction of the Soviet Union itself, which is what the international capitalists have been driving for a long time.

They filled the first time, and they thought Hitler would be the solution to that.

Appreciate that.

And now two minutes for

Truth's rebel.

And the topic that we're speaking about is

Hitler's connection to Zionism.

Go ahead, Truth.

Sure, yeah, thank you.

So once again, with these Jews, every single accusation is a confession they go out and commit the crimes they go out and invade poland themselves accused the germans i mean the us i sar invaded uh poland right after world war one actually and then he did it again and took a piece of it.

So it's amusing to me to hear

that somehow national socialist Germany was wartime.

It was in fact Judea that declared war on Germany in 1933

and it organized an international boycott against them

to decimate their economy.

So if they're really run by the BIS or the central bankers, well, why boycott them?

Why hurt their economy?

Is that going to hurt their ability to pay back?

Well, these kids are no longer paying back because they canceled that $6.6 billion fine.

The net ever should have been assessed from the Treaty of Versailles in the first place. And that's exactly what they did because they canceled that $6.6 billion $5,000, and never should have been assessed from the Treaty

of Versailles in the first place. And that's exactly what

they did, because they arrested Baron Louis de Rothschild

him for ransom for $700,000, and made him scrub

floors. Yes, let the Jew experience

the manual labor. Oh, that way

they. So, then they did it

again in 1938.

They arrested

the Rothschild

bankers there

and they arrested

another Rothschild

bankers in France.

You see the

pattern of behavior

here.

They were against

centralized banking.

They were for a

system where

everybody could

actually fruitfully

benefit.

Now, if the

individual actually

understood national socialism, you'd understand

that that's the better ideology to subscribe to

because it involves no usury, no

the generosity, family values,

good Christian values, and not hurting any

minorities really because you become

nationalistic and you care about

all the citizens within your country and you want

to also of course protect your borders

defensively and Germany would have never

entered World War one if it weren't for the Bromberg massacre

it was Polish Jews that killed

60,000 Germans and of course then Germany had

to come and protect its people.

They were lured into that war. They were baited into that war

because it took a collection

of what, the UK, France,

and all the war, and of course, the USSR

to collectively gang up on Germany to

destroy national socialism because ultimately

the Jewish bankers did not

want the world to see that there could

be a successful economic, political,

socioeconomic ideology that could

benefit the masses while cutting out the

Jewish banksters and said, no, let's go

for communism or capitalism. National

socialism solves all of society's ills,

and that's why it's demonized by Jews and the Shabba's going like an individual who like...

Appreciate it.

Sorry, go ahead with your two-minute rebel.

Yeah, he's making this fairy tale about national

socialism being so great, but the whole thing is funded

by war. The only way those MIFO loans

could ever be paid back, the only way the credit would have

ever been paid back, the only way the loans could

ever be paid back is by looting the resources

stolen through conquest in war.

There's no other way the Nazis could have ever paid back the credit and loans that they took

out in their financial scheme created by the German Central Bank without war.

That's the whole point. Rearmament was the sole thing driving the German economy in the 1930s,

and it had to be paid off by getting resources and wealth

from Eastern Europe to pay back the debt they had taken on. The whole point was building up a war

machine. Whatever the Nazis themselves were saying is irrelevant. This is what they were actually

doing. You're implying that I'm somehow Jewish because you go, well, this is what the Jews

do. How the fuck am I Jewish?

My grandfather was on Israel's kill list.

I'm literally a descendant from

Lebanese Shia from South Lebanon

who fought and resisted against Israel.

So what you're saying is total schizoid

bullshit nonsense. You're calling me a

Shabos-Goy, because you're basically

just a schizzoid who doesn't know how to

discern a principal defense of the actual facts of history

from this babbling, convenient,

bullshit warped world through. You just agree with

everything that conforms to your pre-existing

beliefs and conceptions. The Soviets didn't invade Poland. Under international law,

the Polish government had fled into exile before any Soviet troops crossed into the Polish border.

And they did those defensively, and it was actually the Germans that had designs to march eastward on Poland.

They informed the Soviets had everything they could to secure their eastern front at that time,

moving into Poland to safeguard against the German invasion that they knew would inevitably come anyway.

The boycott by the Jewish community against Germany had a negligible effect.

It wasn't actually followed through with by the major central banking powers

and international bankers in the world. They didn't care about it. It was something done by the Jewish

cultural community and pioneered in New York or whatever. It didn't care about it. It was something done by the Jewish cultural community and pioneered

in New York or whatever. It didn't have any

effect on the actual ways in which Wall Street

and the city of London were funding the German

war machine. Nazis let the Rothschilds go. They let him go unharmed and they

took Rothschild money. Hitler took Rothschild money is a historical

fact.

I appreciate that.

Truth, two minutes

for your rebuttal?

Yeah, he seized the Rothschild

assets. That's what he took. He took

their money as ransom.

Get that part right. I mean, it's already

very well documented.

The Baron-Lose the Rothschild was held for

ransom and put in prison

and made the scrub floors for a $700,000

ransom and all of his assets were seized.

So that's when they were cut off from Judea declared war against Germany and they also

organized an international boycott.

And once again, you think Hillary was such an evil guy.

Well, what did other world leaders say at different points during the 33 to 39 reign?

What wars were there then?

When national socialist Germany became a superpower because they actually knew how to build things in, they weren't imposing famines on their people, unlike the Judeo Bolsheviks, who loved killing Gentiles because the Jews were in charge of their own country.

Well, look what kind of reactions they were able to generate from world leaders. I've never seen a happier people in the Germans. Hitler is one of the greatest men I've ever met. That's the Daily Tehrigraph. That's David Lloyd George, the former Prime Minister of England. Why would a British prime minister have such good things to say about Hitler?

He was such an evil guy.

But let's go on.

Who else had good things to say?

Hitler is a natural leader by and possess his wonderful personality.

He's a great man.

Hitler is simply trying to create a great German nation for Germans or only.

Herbert Hoover,

a U.S. president. Why would he ask

that's glowing remarks to say

about national socialist Germany

if they were so evil. And that was posted

again, or it was before 1939.

I had the exact quotes. I have the exact dates and everything

because I can cite anything

that I said. And one more, my sizing up of the man-hielers that I sat and talked with him

and that he is really one who truly loves his fellow man in his country and would

make any sacrifice for their good. He's a man of decency, genuine patriot, etc.

I was William Lyman Kenzie, the former Prime Minister of Canada. for the good. He's a man of decency, genuine patriot, etc. as William

Limeon Kenti, the former Prime Minister

of Canada. All these glowing remarks

about Hitler and he was voted time out of the year

because all the accomplishments, again, taking the economy

from 31% unemployment

to zero, from high inflation

to no inflation because once again he was not controlled by rachal banks he took control of his economy and was issuing a zero debt zero interest labor back currency that every country should follow appreciate that true and so now we're going to go to the summary of this topic of round four

uh 90 seconds for has to just to conclude give concluding remarks on the fourth topic whether

hitler had an alliance

with Zionists.

Yeah, the German exports to

Palestine at the time were much higher

than the British exports. They were doing a lot of trade

with them. The Germans weren't in a position

to start a war in the early 1930s, like he's saying.

They had to rearm first, which is why as soon

as they had the capabilities, they started aggressively

turning eastward, first of the invasion of Czech

Slovakia, then Poland.

Famines didn't exist in Germany because it was already

way more industrialized, which is why it was

kicking Russia's ass in World War I. That's the whole point

why Russia had a revolution in the first place.

And we all know that Western liberal powers and the powers that be of the world sympathized with Hitler,

all that proves that Hitler in the so-called national socialist ideology wasn't a threat to the global system.

They weren't revolutionaries.

They weren't rebels against the

international system of finance.

Because those powers that be, the ruling capitalist class,

they loved Hitler. They saw him as an attack dog

that would destroy the Soviet Union and get

revenge upon the Soviet government

for being the first revolutionary worker state on

earth that threatened their power.

We all know that the liberals of the

West and the ruling powers that be

were big fans of Hitler. Hitler was constantly

trying to pursue an Anglo-German alliance to

divide the world and enslave the entire planet

to divide it between the British Empire

and the Germans. He failed to do it, though,

because again, he was used and abused and discarded by the British as soon as his utility

and usefulness was exhausted, which was following the mid-1940s. As soon as he wasn't able to perform

and destroy the Soviet Union

and shatter it into a million pieces,

which not only the Germans,

but a lot of Western powers

and commentators believe it would happen

after the Germans invaded,

and it didn't happen.

And they saw him as a bulwark against Bolshevism.

That's why they supported him.

Richard has and truth your final concluding remarks on whether hitler had an alliance with zionists

it was a judeo bolsheviks that had the relationship with the Zionists and the Jews again without the USSR.

There would be no Israel.

It was the USSR in the five Eastern European states that the USSR controlled, that had the deciding votes at the UN to enable the state of Israel

to exist in the first place.

And it was the U.S.S.R. One of the few states

also voted to deny Palestinians

the right of return, UN Resolution 194.

That one got shot down, though, because the U.S. and U.S. and U.K.

voted for that one. So they lost theirs.

So not only did they want to see

Palestinians lose half their property,

they also didn't even want to give them the right

of return because once again, Stalin

was in bed with David Ben Gurian, Goldemeyer,

and the other Zionist Jewish gangsters,

such as, of course, Manachem Begin,

Yitzhak Shememir and the other

terrorists are committing all kinds of atrocities

in Palestine. He was arming them.

He was enabling him and gave them over $22 million

worth of arms. He stole German weapons

and gave it to them. Israel has no

better friend than the USSR.

Without the USSR, there's no Israel.

And the USSR was governed and controlled by Jews.

There were assets, stealing its assets, imposing famines, and killing people.

So those are the facts.

And once again, you can mention the barAR Agreement as a one-off in 33,

and that was because they wanted

to get her to the Marxist,

communist Jews,

because David Ben-Gariam himself

was like an atheist Jew

on the socialist

communist side himself.

So, of course, they got along,

but they just wanted them gone.

And a lot of them actually

ended up fleeing to both America

and to Europe

so they were welcome to stay so long as they followed the laws of the land. A lot of Jews did stick

around. There's 150,000 Jews that served in Hitler's army.

I appreciate that. That's the end

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We are going to move on to the fifth round.

We are going to start with Truth.

He is going to have three minutes to start the round.

And by the way, put your comments in.

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What is it you want to have and truth to debate?

I'm sure there's many issues that you want them to debate.

Right.

Topic number five.

Do Jews control the world? And what that means is do they control the world?

And what that means is do they control the financial sector, the banking sector, media, and politics?

I'm going to let that truth go first, but the question is, do Jews control things?

Go ahead, truth. control things? Glad truth.

Three minutes.

Thank you. Well, I mean, they tell you they control the world. I mean, it was Alan Dershowitz. Famous Jewish

lawyers said that, no, don't be ashamed.

Stand up. Be proud of yourselves for everything that

you have, that you own, that you control.

The Jews should be aware

as like a badge of honor

as far as how much they've,

how far they've come.

So he claims.

The Jews are recognized

as a special minority class in America.

They get access to all kinds of grants and loans.

They're trying to push anti-Semitism laws again.

And they're also the highest

earning ethnic minority in America.

They represent probably less than 2% of the population.

Don't really know because they lie about their population

too. In terms of what they really can show.

Of course, they control the Federal Reserve. They're the ones

who call the shots as far as when to raise

interest rates, drop interest rates. They've caused 19 recessions which gives them opportunity to both to crash markets so short on the way down and also the cause expansionary cycle so they can make money on the way up every single time and that's how they enrich themselves. So of course they control the Federal Reserve

and 157 central banks as well

based out of the one square mile of city of London

that's otherwise known as the Jewish

crown because 13 Jewish families

control 157 central banks and over

750 corporations

that are registered there

in addition to the BIS that resides

in the autonomous area in Basel

Switzerland. And what did they do with

all this unlimited access to wealth?

Well, they like to use secret service agencies such as

the CIA, Mossad, MI6, to go

and keep politicians in line and also fund Jewish lobbies like, Massad, MI6, to go and keep politicians in line

and also fund Jewish lobbies,

like, of course, A-PAC, ADL, of course,

at J Street, and so many over 60 other ones

to ensure that politicians remain beholden to them.

I mean, just look at what the likes of, say,

Thomas Massey will state that, you know,

every single

congressman has an APAC handler or Bernie

Sanders, a Jewish center from Vermont, he'll say

well if you don't remain beholden to Israel

and fund the foreign A packages,

A PAC will make your life living hell

they have to live in fear as politicians

that they have to remain beholden

to the Jews. And of course they control the media

and the messaging and of course

Hollywood to spread their filth and perversion

to again brainwash individuals

to of course want to suck up to them.

So this way they might have a chance to

becoming famous actors, athletes, etc. the jews also control sports and of course the media so there's absolutely no doubt about it the jews have disproportionate control over of course the central bank and global finance of course to the likes likes of Black Rock State Street Vanguard that controls

$36.4 trillion worth

of wealth. Of course, and that's in addition to

controlling the media. 96% of all the major media

channels, and you've got the ADL that's

monitoring everything, another Jewish agency.

And then, of course, they control the politicians

who have to live in fear

that their wives might get killed like Thomas

Massey's date under mysterious circumstances she

dies after exposing the fact that there's

APAC handlers and of course we know

the Mossad and Israel was involved in the murders of

JFK and likely the other US

presidents as well as well

who died like Lincoln, McKinley, and Garfield

and we also know they tried to kill Andrew

Jackson when he refused to renew

the 20-year Central Bank Charter

around 1835-36

and he actually paid off the debt. But the Jews

don't want that because they rely on

debt to generate passive revenue because that's how these

parasites operate. So you damn

straight that Israel has control over all the major

countries in the world, except for maybe a handful

of Russia, China, Venezuela,

and a handful of countries don't,

and they happen to be the, and't and they happen to be in Iran

they happen to be the most essential countries

thank you

appreciate

that has three minutes

for your opening marks on whether

Jews control things

and that's the banking financial

politics and media sectors.

Go ahead, House.

I just think it's funny because there's debates overall about communism and the countries he listed

right at the tail end there of all the countries that aren't controlled by this supposed

Jewish world conspiracy happen to either be communist states or communist adjacent states or successor

states to communist states like the russian federation which is the legal successor of the uss

are and whose nationalization of oil is the reason why it's being attacked by the global

capital's class and i'll say this to the prompt and the question.

Here's the thing.

100% of the actual rulers of the world are the capitalist class.

And the thing is that 100% of Jews are not capitalists, one hundred percent of these capitalists are not

jews the only consistent variable when it comes to who actually runs the world

and controls the world are the people who have a monopoly and control the means of

production and control all the major wealth these conglomerates these banks these

companies and 100% of them

are definitely not Jewish.

For example,

only 80% of the Federal Reserve heads,

sorry, 80% of the Federal

Reserve heads are non-Jewish.

Only 20% are Jewish.

Now, whether there's an

outsized Jewish presence or proportion

is a realm. The majority of Jews are not actually capitalist. The majority of capitalists aren't Jews around the world. So the fundamental question is who actually controls the world and who runs the world? Well, for certain, it is the capitalist class. The notion that it is the Jews is a much more nebulous claim. Does the capitalist class have an entrenched interest in Zionism? Of course it does. Israel, after all, is an outpost of the global dollar hegemony, U.S. hegemony world system. And by the way, here's the thing about the whole premise. The notion that Zionism is the same as Judaism is actually part and parcel of Zionist ideology. All you're doing is reinforcing the ideology of Zionists by making that equivocation. You're helping Zionism. You're reinforcing its fundamental premise,

which is why Theodore Herzl said

that the anti-Semites will become the

most reliable allies of the

Zionists. And a tweak teller here is a perfect

example of that.

I appreciate that has.

Are you done?

Because you've still got time.

Yeah, yeah, that's it.

You can go there.

Cool.

Truth, go ahead.

You've got two minutes.

Sure, yeah.

Thank you.

So the Fed is majority controlled by Jews.

They were the founding members of the Fed.

Who were they?

Well, of course, you had the Rothschild family,

Jacob Schiff, Cune and Loeb,

Paul Max, and Felix Warburg,

Lazard, Lehman, Goldman Sachs, and then Chabelskoy like JPMorgan, John D. Rockefeller had small percentages.

So did Bush there, a few Shabelskoy there, but they ultimately are Freemasons.

Free Masonry is, of course, Jewish.

Everything about Freemasonry is basically the qualification program required for Shabos Gory to be able to achieve.

So this way they can sit at the table with these

usurious Jewish bankers to try

to make it up the corporate ladder

the day, of course,

control. Now what does usury?

Where does user even come from?

It's actually banned in all three major religions,

except there's a loophole in Judaism,

based on the 198 mitzvah,

which commands Jews to charge usurious race to Gentiles.

And that's exactly what they do

to keep them in death servitude.

They were doing this at the micro level for centuries.

And then what they would do is an increase rates

on them through variable rates and they end up

repossessing homes and then taking

slaves on to pay off the debt because that's just

how the Jews operate because they don't like to do any type of

real work.

Now what the Rothschilds learn is that it's much more profitable to be able to lend to countries at the macro level because this way they can collateralize the debt against both the taxes that the citizens would pay,

which is what was required to be able to install the Federal Reserve.

You need an income tax act, which didn't exist before,

other than, say, temporary measures.

In addition to that, then you end up causing, of course, the debt servitude,

and it's the causation of inflation,

and, of course, the austerity measure of taxation.

And, of course, it leads to unemployment

because of corporate restructuring

when they decide to crash the market.

And it's Jews that are 100% behind this

and they control the Shaboskoy

who are loyal to them.

And in exchange for their loyalty,

they get to make a few shekels on the side

and live very good lives as well. But if you're not loyal to them and you're for their loyalty, they get to make a few shekels on the side and live very good lives as well.

But if you're not loyal to them and you're against their system, they will, of course, punish you.

He'll be resorts to all kinds of lying, deception, gaslighting, violence, murder, genocide, and wars to ensure that every single government that's out there remains compliant to them or they're subject

to all the wars because it's the Jewish bankers that are

all about wars.

Brilliant. As you can go ahead. You've got

two minutes and three seconds for your rebel.

Yeah, the idea

that J.P. Morgan was somehow this

marginal Shabas Goy rather than one of the instrumental architects behind the Federal Reserve System. Starting with the run on the banks, the crisis of 1907, which he actually helped bail out, is completely laughable. The main titans of U.S. Monopoly Capital,

J.P. Morgan, Rockefeller, the Vanderbilt,

and so on and so on. These were not actually

Jews. So while no one's denying

that there were Jews involved in the creation of the

federal bank and the U.S. financial

banking systems, the majority

definitely weren't. The idea that usury is somehow

uniquely Jewish. It's true that Christianity does condemn usury, and it's not technically

prohibited within Judaism. But it was widespread as a practice during the Middle Ages. They just

called it something different. They called it interest. The whole distinction between interest and usury was actually created during the Middle Ages because they had to call it a different name. All of the Venetian mercantile, Italian city states, all of the various orders that were formed as a consequence of the Crusades.

Usury and the lending of interest was a widespread fundamental practice of the Middle Ages.

Primarily Christians were engaged in this, actually.

And Usury has its origins historically with the Greeks Greeks and not the Jews. The Greeks were the ones that actually invented. It was the Jews who actually had a tradition in the Bible. It was called the Jubilee year, where periodically they would cancel all debt. And this is why Jesus in his first sermon to the public where he said that he wants to

restore the Jubilee year, he wants to cancel and eliminate all the debt. That was why Jesus was so

persecuted. It was the Romans and Greeks and the Hellenistic world that basically made usury and the lending of interest a normal economic practice throughout the antiquity in the ancient world. So he doesn't know anything about history or ancient history, the origins of usury. It's pretty sad.

And by the way, J.P. Morgan was the wealthiest and probably the most influential banker

that existed in the world at the time, and he wasn't Jewish.

Pretty sure that truth go ahead you got two minutes

yeah it's good that he wants to challenge me on finance and banking

so yeah where did jp morgan even come from was he the richest banker ever

why is it they felt the need to take out the three riches the most prominent Americans feel

to install the Federal Reserve. Who were they? The ones

that got sunk on the Olympic ship. Yeah,

it was run by J.P. Morgan.

The guy owned about 15% of his

own bank because it was

funded by the Rothschilds, of course,

without which he would cease to exist.

He was a 33rd degree Mason.

But yeah, they took out the three most prominent Americans

who were opposed to a Federal Reserve.

He was, of course, the Chabelskoy that was in charge of the operation.

He took out Strauss.

They took out, of course, John Astor,

and they took out a third

gentleman as well who had a collective net worth

that was worth more than

more than any other bankers on paper.

So it's quite clear who was in charge of the operation.

It's Jews that have been installing central

banks in 1609. The Sephardic Jews

did it then in Amsterdam when they got

kicked out of Spain and France in 1492

and 1497 where they first

started with piracy and then they

then they resort to of course the transatlantic slave

trade where they controlled about 78%

of the slaves and they own pretty much all the ships as well

through the likes of Aaron Lopez

of course and the DeSanto family

and the DeWolf family and the Monsanto family

etc among many others and then they of course went back to the usury

practices at lending at the macro level

which led to so many wars around the world

Greece didn't invent usury usury is just lending at a at the macro level, which led to so many wars around the world.

Greece didn't invent usury.

Usory is just lending at an interest rate that enables the lender to get astronomically rich or unfairly unjustly rich.

It was used to right known for this, and that was part of the reason why they got kicked

out of 109 countries, 1,034 times as early as 1200 BC

in Egypt for misbehavior

not necessarily for use of all kinds of misbehavior

because the Jews just never like to follow

order or follow laws. That's why they love

their two-tier justice systems

because then this way it's laws for the, but not for me.

And you see this consistently as the likes of Israel and even the U.S.S.S.I were consistently violating U.S. Security Council resolutions and conventions.

But let's stick to us for a minute. It absolutely is the Jewish practice based on the 190th Mitzvah.

It's all about enslaving the Gentile.

Appreciate it.

It has two minutes.

Go ahead.

Yeah, this attempt to hijack

anti-Zionism

to create this whole

racial narrative

about the problem

of the Jews racially

is literally plays

into the

Zionist's hands because it's

equating Zionism and the crimes of Zionism

with Judaism, which is exactly

what the Zionists want. Again, refer back to the

Theodore Herschel quote. J.P. Morgan

was by no means an insignificant figure.

Once again, he was the main architect behind the federal reserve one of the bankers who actually died on the titanic who opposed the creation of the federal reserve was actually jewish so that's just a funny irony for your whole narrative and by the way the jews were being kicked out of countries that didn't tolerate any other religious minorities at all.

I mean, the genocides against other Christian so-called heretics like the Cathars was carried out. Not a single Muslim was allowed to breathe on any of these lands in the Middle Ages. So Jews were the only ones that were tolerated. It's no wonder that periodically they were being kicked out and suppressed all the time. They were the only religious minority that for some reason was tolerated in the first place. And the similar level of enmity and hostility and hatred was not seen, for example, in Islamic

empires, which were relatively and comparatively tolerant of religious minorities.

And the problem is that the only Jew, by the way, at the whole Jekyll Island meeting to

create the Federal Reserve was

Warburg.

Everyone else was

non-Jewish.

So why are you

lying about the people

who created the Federal Reserve?

I don't know.

Nobody's denying

that there's Jews

among the capitalist

class.

Of course there are.

But you don't need

to be Jewish to be a

member of the ruling

monopolistic capitalist class why are you making it about a jewish thing i'll tell you why because you're

trying to racialize it because the whole thing is about making uh invoking and inflaming

racial conflict in general first you're going to make it about the racial problems of the

jews then you're going to start targeting all the other undesirable races.

And the whole thing is just a pipeline. It's a slippery slope to create a type of racial cannibalism and a filthy, disgusting, racial pagan Nazi ideology where you exterminate all the inferior races as Hitler himself believed and all the Nazis believed.

Appreciate that. Truth. My space was crashed.

The truth, we're going to do the concluding remarks on this topic.

You've got 90 seconds, and it is

topic number five, which is...

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Go ahead, truth.

Truth? Sure, sure yeah thank you

so

usury is a Jewish

construct based on

the 198 mitzv

in the time of

the commands Jews

to charge usurious

rates to keep them

in perpetual

death servitude.

It's funny that he mentions the Jubilee.

Well, when's that going to kick in?

I mean, the Federal Reserve debt's been going since 1913.

Doesn't seem like that's going to happen

since seven years or any time soon

because you know what?

There's never any intention ever pay back that debt.

They don't care about the debt.

They just want the residual interest payments they collect because that's going to be far more

than whatever the debt's going to end up at before they end up crashing the system. And that's how

the system was designed in the first place. And that's what gives Jews disproportionate control

around the world

by controlling

the monetary policy

of pretty much

every country around the world

and the three countries

I mentioned

China's not a communist country

they have a billionaire class

millionaire class middle class

how is that communist

when they're not egalitarian

and they're not classless

there's clearly classes

and there's private property rights, there's free

enterprise rights, and there's a stock exchange.

How can you call that communists? They're succeeding

now because they got away from communism,

the Jewish construct, and they did a lot of catching up.

They'd be so much further ahead if they weren't subjected

to communism just like Russia

would be. These are pitfalls. This

is a stain and a blight on their history

and they want nothing to do with it other

than say change to the name because it's been there.

But Russia's Communist Party barely

has any popularity and I believe he funds

the individual. That's why he sins

for them so hard. Because, well, that's

why he ends up representing Congress in America

because he wants to spread this filthy ideology around the world

because that's maybe what his ethnicity is. Thank you.

Appreciate it. Has

you got 90 seconds for your concluding remarks?

Yeah, the fact that this guy goes so far as to say because of his schizophrenic, mentally retarded ideology that even I'm Jewish, just goes to show what a mentally ill schizophrenic ideology this is and how people like this belong in psych wards.

You're claiming I'm Jewish now. It just goes to show the lengths and the insanity of this worldview, this racially racist-based worldview that you have in general.

Now, no, Ujory wasn't invented by Judaism,

and yes, the Jubilee Year was abandoned

because of the influence of Hellenism and

Greek antiquity. That was precisely

why Jesus, but the first sermon

he delivered was about the restoration of

the Jubilee Year. It's the foundation of

Christianity, actually. China is absolutely

a communist state. The leadership of the Communist Party of China have had every opportunity

to abandon Marxism-Leninism. They've gotten wealthy enough. They've had the leverage to do it. They

won't do it. They still teach Marxism. They still promote it.

Because Marxism isn't about making everyone equal. The fact that you think that just shows

you haven't read a word of Marx. Marx and Engels consistently wrote about. Stalin, every single

major Marxist leader consistently stressed communism, Marxism. It's not about making everyone the same. It's not about making everyone the same it's not about

making everyone equal it's about a fundamental uh development of the productive forces in history

and the establishment of a proletarian dictatorship again you just don't know the first thing

about marxism but you seem so uh you seem so eager to talk about things you don't know about

by pulling shit out of your ass. It's pathetic. You're saying the KPRF

isn't relevant. It's the largest non-governing commune's party in the entire

world. It's the second most popular party

and it's consistently ranked number two in every election that happens.

The idea that I'm funded by them is another retarded schizophrenic lie, but whatever, okay.

Appreciate it.

Guys, that is the conclusion of the fifth round.

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I really appreciate the manner in which the debate

has been conducted.

I think the audience has learned a lot from the current part of the debate.

The next bit we're going to try, I hope it goes well. If it doesn't, we'll probably

quickly move away from it, but I hope it does. And it is going to be the Hazel being and truth

are going to ask each other

a question and make it more of a dialogue

aspect of it so this will be

part B of it and then par C will be obviously the audience

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put together for me the team's put together for me and we'll

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is going to be, for example, we'll start with Hasl Dean, he'll ask

truth the question and it'll be more of a dialogue and then

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phone now, man. I had technical difficulties.

Twitter's really bad on the computer, so

I'm here, I'm listening. You've been doing a fantastic job though despite the technical stuff. I ended the stream earlier, but I was able to get most of it on stream. So no, great discussion between these guys and, you know, we'll have them kind of go back and forth a little bit. Sounds awesome. So this is part B of the debate part one has

concluded a part a has concluded which was the five topics all the main topics of debate so has a

jump in do ask through the question it's going to be more of a dialogue as opposed to a

minuteing but we will

jump in with a minutes if we need to. So one thing I want to do

is I want to actually have a

consistent line of argumentation where I ask him

a question about his position and he has to actually

follow it through because he's making a lot of claims

I'd like to actually pin him down on one of these

claims he's making,

to reveal his methodology behind what he constitutes as sufficient for actually making a claim.

Can I ask follow-up questions in order to have the kind of...

Yeah, it's a dialogue.

It's a dialogue.

I think the other audience will benefit from this. And Truth

could do the same to you as well on his time from. So,

would you say that the reason you think that

the Bolshevik leadership and the

Soviet government was Jewish control,

that an example of that Jewish control,

for example, would be the

position of people like Yagoda and the leadership of the

NKVD for two years between 34 to 36.

It's a lot more complicated nuance than that.

I want to ask what concretely

would be an example of Jewish control?

Like one example?

If you're going to keep interrupting,

if you're going to keep interrupting,

I won't be able to answer.

Well, I need one concrete example.

I'm about to provide those examples,

but please try and control your low impulse

control and you hear my answer answer you don't mind please

i didn't interrupt you at all when you spoke go ahead one you asked me a question to answer it in terms of

well there's multiple concrete examples no no just one just one just one i'm gonna mention

you're not gonna frame my answer you can have to scatter diarrhea're not going to you have to splatter diarrhea

and so we need to have

one claim

that we can actually

interrogate

one claim that we can

interrogate

truth teller one claim

you can defend

consistently

these are cheap

debate

these are cheap

to be

no no why

why do you have to splatter

five million claims at once?

This is why I hate doing the thing where they do an open dialogue.

Ask him the question, bro, and then let him answer.

And then let him finish answering your question before you kind of ask the next one,

because I knew that this could easily

warp into some craziness which is why I like the

whole rounded

you know discussions where you guys are

unable to interrupt each other but

try to do it one time and then he'll he could cross

examine you after so true just please answer

his question bro bro, and then

you'll get your chance to cross-examine him, okay?

We'll keep it, we'll keep it fair.

I don't problem answering questions.

I just don't like interruptions or people

trying to dictate to me. So, has maybe one question

at a time, bro? Yeah, I'll ask my one

question.

It'll be very simple.

Can you name one concrete example of Jewish control, just one and stick by that one example?

Just give us one, please, and stick by. That's a loaded question.

There's a loaded question because there's just so many entities to control.

You can't fucking do that.

Who created the ideology?

Who financed the ideology?

Who were the leading commissars?

So it should be easy to name one.

It should be easy to name one.

According to both,

according to, hold on,

according to Vladimir Putin,

according to both Alexander Socialism,

according to Dimitri Gordon,

they all stated that about

80 85 to 90%

of the soviet regime was made up of

jews and commit to one it should be easy

for you well i've just named

all i'm leaving a whole bunch for you if you don't like it

pick one no no one second one second

guys guys guys

guys truth

so just

let's do this

properly

so like answer his question

specifically

because obviously

like when you

when you ask him the question

he can also

make sure that he doesn't answer

the question and then

it makes part B

irrelevant

because if nobody's

going to answer each of

this question. But specifically just

answer one question. If you want to go with the point about

85% that's fine, but just

answer one specific example

of Jewish control. And then I think he's

going to try and rebut that and

obviously you can have that conversation, and maybe

you can go with another example or whatever maybe.

I'm sorry, that's a cheap debate tactic and I reject that.

I'm going to answer the way I want to answer.

You can ask his question?

Can I explain why he can't answer this question?

Can I explain why he can't answer?

I'd be happy to just explain why he can't answer.

He can't answer this because if he actually has to commit to one claim,

then it's going to be revealed that he's bullshitting and lying.

All right.

All right.

Haz.

You just got to ask him the question, bro.

Let him answer it

and then you can follow up and ask again

but it's literally got to be one question at a time

let him answer and then

you know and then he'll get his chance

to cross the gym and you but you know truth

you got to answer the question as well bro now I understand

he's asking you a question that might seem loaded.

That's fine.

Take as much time as you need to answer the question the way that you want it to be answered.

That's all.

Right?

And you could give, you know, hey, here's the caveat to this answer.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

So I understand where you're coming from truth because you feel like he's trying to set you up and i understand where houses are coming from because he's trying to truly understand and get you locked

and something so has just asked the question as succinctly as possible let truth answer it and

then we'll switch on over and let him cross examineexamine you fair just real quick i want to say

one thing all i want to do is just interrogate one of these claims just so we could actually

scrutinize one of them not trying to deny his ability to list as many as he wants i just want

us to be able to scrutinize one claim.

You can absolutely do that, Haas.

You can absolutely interrogate, but you've got to ask one question at time and let him fully answer it.

Cool?

Right, yeah.

It's going to be the same question.

Can you please name one concrete example just one that you would say

is one example of Jewish control

in the Soviet Union? Just one, please.

As you said, 85% of the

leadership of the Soviet regime

consisted of Jews, ethnic Jews

and some Shaboskoy

and once again it was funded

by Jews it was the ideology

was drafted by Jews there's just so many

to mention additions of course the anti-semanism law

that was drafted in 1917 didn't exist before

that carving out a Jewish holblast

how many more concrete examples do you need to understand that communism entails Jewish control of the state through the violent overthrow of the establishment, a Gentile establishment, and then putting up, of course, a Jewish supremacist leadership.

They would then control the means of production and

enslave the state. So that's what

communism entails.

So how's...

So how's you go ahead, and I believe his main

foundational point is the 85%...

No, because he...

No, no, there's going to...

He's going to...

Let him finish this line of argument

and then we'll go to you and then you could do.

He mouthed off like a dozen different things

and he just wouldn't answer the question.

He wants me to go through every single thing.

It's too complicated for your simple brain.

True teller, I can go through every single... You want me to go through every single thing. It's too complicated for your simple brain. I can go through every single.

You want me to respond to every single thing you just said?

Is that what you want?

So maybe for the audience, right?

Okay, guys, guys, once again.

So maybe for the audience to respond to the 85% one.

So that was the first one he said, so let's choose that one.

So I'll have him concede on all the other ones and we'll just go with the 85%.

Let's fine.

Okay, so you're claiming that on the basis of an offhand remark that Putin had made, that

85%...

I'm conceding nothing.

You said that 85% of the Soviet government was Jewish, but then you also snuck in, well, also the Shabas

Goy. Well, anybody who doesn't share your Nazi worldview is a Shabas Goy in your view. So the

definition of what that is is just extremely vague and nebulous, just the way to weasel out of committing to the ridiculous

and absurd notion that at any point 85% of the Soviet government was Jewish. I would like

to see a list backed by a primary source of any kind which shows that any methodology

whatsoever, whether it's the central executive

committee, whether it's the leadership of the Bolshevik party, that 85% of the leadership

was used because there's never a point in the history of the entire Soviet government

where the Jews ever reached anything close to that as far as their proportion

and representation within leadership. So I'd like to know where you're getting that claim

and where you're sourcing it beyond an offhand remark made by Putin, which itself is just not

true.

And then you can answer the question.

That's amusing to me.

An offhand remark made by Putin when he was giving a lecturer a speech in front of a bunch of rabbis.

And he stated that 80 to 85% of the Soviet regime consisted of Jews.

That's not an offhand remark.

That's a declaration.

That's an assertation.

Learn the difference.

He said it because it's true and he has access to the Soviet files and he declared it.

And he wanted more documentation

and it's up in the nest now. You can delete it afterwards.

I don't want to flood your nest.

85% of the commissars were Jewish.

The names are all there for you.

You can look at the other file as well

with Alexander Solzhenitsyn's declaration

to the majority of the commissars

and people in leadership positions

and Judeo-Bolshevik demonic

USSR were Jewish

psychopaths that systematically mass

murdered Gentiles. That's what

that's their whole objective was. Why would the

institute an anti-semitism law and force it

and kill off the people, for instance, that escape that tried to escape. There was no anti-semitism law and enforce it and kill off the people, for instance,

that escape, that tried to escape.

There's no anti-semitism law.

Why did they carve out a Jewish law blast?

If there wasn't Jewish supremacism.

Why can't you commit to one thing?

Why didn't they have anti- Gentile laws that the Gentiles were in charge?

They didn't have an anti-Semitism law.

Again, you could never...

cite me the anti-Semitism.

Show me the anti-Semitism law.

Why did they destroy the anti-Semitism law?

Okay, guys, I think this section may be not working as much

as a truth. Truth,

once again, truth. If you can ask...

Truth, if you can ask...

If you can ask your question, we'll try this one more time. If not, we'll move

into the third section, because I think the dialogue's not going to work.

I have more than answer to this question. He just doesn't like it because it explains.

Ask your question. Ask your question. So one second. Truth. Truth. Ask your question now.

So let's not talk about if the previous,

the previous attempts to ask a question or answer it.

Just ask your question to us and see if we can do it.

Sure, yeah. Thank you.

So he claims that Jews don't have disproportionate control.

Well, let's look at stats.

The numbers speak.

You know, people can lie, the numbers don't lie.

Why is it in the previous administration,

66% of Biden's cabinet was Jewish.

75% of Ivy League presidents, Jewish,

90% of Hollywood, film studios,

CEOs, Jewish, 83% of the world.

Truth is, this is your question.

CEO's Jewish.

I'm just explaining,

I'm laying out the

foundation

and please let me explain

why he doesn't think

the Jews control

America and global finance

because I'm just going

through the statistics

63% of top donors

the presidential

Jewish 90% of all

presidential child spouse is Jewish about 90% of all presidential child

spouse is Jewish

about 40%

of accounts

that Elon

engages with Jewish

and again

75% of

NBA team owners

and ask a fucking

question

you fucking

retarded

okay you need to

listen listen

listen listen this is just

examples

you need to ask the question

like ask a question if not we're

just going to move away from this round it's not okay is very simple based on the stat sizes you solicited

of the disproportionate that's double mute that's double me oh sorry go ahead truth

given the staff i just cited which clearly demonstrate that the Jews have

disproportional control over global finance politicians administrations and of

course the media Hollywood NBA ownership teams etc why do you think that Jews don't have disproportionate control of those three main entities?

So to be very clear, I'm not going to frame your answer.

You can answer it how you like.

They have disproportionate control on global finance, on politicians in America and other countries too,

and, of course, of course media entertainment etc go ahead yeah look I'll just go ahead and say that your statistics are complete fabrication

just like your statistics about 85% of the Bolshevik leadership being true but you know what even? Even if they were real, even if all the statistics you just cited were real, just for the sake of argument.

But then you counter-

Hold on, hold on, just for the sake of argument. Even if those statistics were real, I'm answering your question.

They've all been substantial, it's still, it's still, every single one.

Yeah, you can't, he has to interrupt me because he can't let me answer.

Even if every single one of those fabricated statistics you just cited were true,

it wouldn't make a difference because 100% of the people who run the world are part of the capitalist class, and 100% of that class are not Jewish, and 100% of Jews don't belong to that class. So it doesn't justify the notion of this racial picture of Jews or this racial primordial enemy that need to be, you know, singled out, and it's all about

Jews only and Jews only, rather than the fundamental thing, which is it's the capitalist

class.

It's the simple thing.

Now, the whole thing about your argument that 85% of the Soviet governmentviet government was jewish because uh... just

because putton said well that's a logical fallacy it's an appeal to

authority where's the primary source evidence to justify this claim that

you're making there isn't one not even the most uh...

ridiculous of absurd of these anti-semitic historians that try to claim this will even go near such a number.

As a matter of fact, even the people who are trying to portray the Soviet government as primarily or significantly Jewish,

they'll oftentimes have to resort to the claim, oh, it was 40%, it was this or that.

No, I've never heard anyone seriously actually try to cite statistics and names and provide any kind of documentation which suggests that 85% of the Soviet government.

The dominant personalities within the Soviet government,

Lenin and Stalin, the main movers, none of them were actually Jewish. All the Jewish disproportionate

representation and leadership disappears after the Great Purges as well. How could they be in

control if the majority

are getting purged it doesn't even make any sense

all right let's go for

this question to truth and then

he didn't even answer the question well that's

I answered the question and more

just like you did with me just

I'm just reflecting your behavior.

I try to ask you a direct question.

You didn't even answer my question.

I did answer your question and I added more.

You couldn't answer.

Yes, I did.

I answered the question.

I tried to claim Lenin and Stalin aren't Jewish and they were.

I prove they are.

You're claiming Stalin was Jewish.

Are you fucking retarded? Stalin was Jewish?

Stalin was Jewish?

Okay, okay, guys, I think this part

two's not going to work. It's not working that well. I think

there's just like too much interruptions and not enough

timing. I'm going to go to the audience

two minutes. Yeah, yeah, I'm going to do that. I'm going to go back to the two minutes. I'm going to go to the audience. Just go back to the two minutes. Yeah, yeah, I'm going to do that.

I'm going to go back to the two minutes and I'm going to go to the audience questions

and then we'll go back and forth between you two.

I'm going to go to as first for this question and then obviously truth you get to re-boat for two minutes.

So Hazel will be able to answer this question. Do you want two minutes to answer this question or three minutes? I'll let you guys decide and then whatever time you decide that we'll go with the other person to reboot that. So the first question to you, has, and I do decide if you want two minutes

or three minutes, is

Carl Marx said, quote,

religion is the opium of the masses?

Is communism anti-religion?

Well, actually, well, yeah, in that

quote, what Marx was actually saying, and this was his criticism of the young...

I'm sorry, has you want two, do you want two minutes or three minutes to answer this?

I'll have three minutes.

So when Marx said that religion is the opium of the people, he's saying it's the heart of a heartless world.

So Marx is saying

that we live in a world of fundamental alienation

where humanity is estranged

from its own existence and alienated

from its own existence. And the

only human aspect of our existence,

the only one that actually reflects what

we are as human beings is all just in

religion. So what Marx was actually trying to say, wasn't that religion is bad or that it's just

distracting people from the real issues? No, the whole point was that for him, the religious

essence was actually the essence of what mankind was, but in an estranged, alienated form. And he was rebuking people like Feuerbach and other people who were, you know, saying that religion was the primary issue by saying the issue isn't religion. the issue was the world of alienation that made it such that the only way we could have an outlet for the expression and consolation of our own human existence was in the form of religion. So that quote by Marx isn't actually against religion. It's the opposite. It's against the fundamental alienation that makes it such that in our material existence, our values don't align or reflect the beauty and greatness that is in the religion, that there's this fundamental separation between the two.

And there's a complicated history because oftentimes established religious institutions

were supporting the authorities and the capitalists, and they were being bribed and bought out by the state. And so communists in the beginning were pretty hostile toward religion. Absolutely, I won't deny that. But that has changed through the course of history and through the course of experience. Starting in the late 20th century, a new dialogue between Marxists and religion began. And now today,

the largest non-governing Communist Party in the world, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation,

majority of it are faithful Orthodox Christians. They've entered into an alliance with the Orthodox Church.

They promote reconciliation between Christianity and communism.

So communists today have matured from this earlier perspective they used to have of being hostile to religion because of experience, because they realize the problem isn't actually religion, it's capitalism.

So that's my answer.

I appreciate that. You actually took two minutes there.

So truth, go ahead.

We'll keep it to two minutes. Two minutes for your response.

You see, you just can see the point that the communists all this time have been immature and competent inept.

And look how long it took them to figure out.

They think the problem is just with global finance and not religion.

Wow, these people are so smart and brightened and they get put up on a pedestal.

It's very amusing how that works

and that's this is after killing close to 200 plus million people they figure out well maybe we

shouldn't be so violent and weaponized religion and push towards atheism and degeneracy maybe you

should just wake up and realize it's these serious banksters that are

behind communism. And also capitalism,

by the way, it's the common denominator

between both. So when you keep blaming the capitalist

class, they also control the communist class.

They funded both. So they're both

guilty, if anything, but they have one playing off the other.

So this way you can have these types of debates without people realizing that it's the

Jewish banksters that are in control of the economy, the global economy, and they're the ones

to push, usury,ury degeneracy and of course communism

and they're rigged form of capitalism because it gets

you thinking there's actually an invisible hand

that gets to dictate what the market price will be

when in fact it doesn't operate that way

because the Jewish banksters control the economy

and cause inflation, they cause

unemployment and of course they require the austerity measure of taxation economy and cause inflation. They cause unemployment.

Of course, they require the austerity measure of taxation so they can

keep everybody in debt servitude.

And that happens whether it's communist or capitalist.

So with religion and the way that

it's been exploited, it's quite simple what's happened

there. The Jews have also weaponized religion. It was the Jews that it's been exploited, it's quite simple what's happened there. The Jews have also weaponized religion.

It was the Jews that gave the Vatican, for instance,

the equivalent of $3.9 billion through the Holy See Laws in 1832.

So this way they could control and infiltrate the Vatican Church

in exchange for favors to the Jews.

So then they have control of, of course,

the Catholics, then they control the Protestants,

of course, by weaponizing religion,

once again through the Schofield version of the Bible

and brainwashing Christians to worship Jews,

because that's all what it revolves around.

And then, of course, you know, they weaponize religion again

with Islam through

Wahhabism and that they used to then create the likes of ISIS al-Qaeda to go and kill

other Muslims and other people so the Jews love to weaponize and of course they see it

is opium get high off my religion follow follow me to the the most dangerous

violent path thank Thank you.

Appreciate it. Thank you.

Has, do you want to

have another round on this question?

I'm sure we've got to other audience questions.

I mean, yeah, I'm willing to respond.

No problem.

Yep, go ahead.

Two minutes.

Yeah, just because communists had to learn from historical experience by actually having a dialogue with the masses and learning from the masses doesn't make them immature.

It actually makes them humble.

They evolve their views through the course of historical experience.

They weren't wrong originally, by the way, because the

institutional established religions were very much bribed and very corrupt, and they defended the

status quo and the powers that be against the workers fighting for their dignity, fighting

for their rights, the masses and masses of people fighting for basic humanity here on earth, yeah, the churches and

the establishments were siding with the status quo, just because they were being bribed.

It was corruption.

But they learned through experience with the masses that there's more to religion.

It's actually great.

It's evolution.

It's wisdom.

And the whole thing about 200 million dead, why not just say 200 trillion at this point? Why not say 500 trillion? You're just pulling these giant colossal numbers right out of your ass. It has no basis in reality. It's silly.

If communism was so terrible, as you say, I went to Russia several times. I went to Donbass, where

people who lived in, then the eastern part of Ukraine lived, and their grandparents lived

under Stalin. Not a single one corroborates any of these crazy claims you say about communism being devils. And you say they love Stalin, they love communism, they miss the Soviet Union. So it's complete nonsense. The schizophrenia that Jews are both behind capitalism and communism. Again, this is a type of schizoid mental illness.

It doesn't even make any sense.

You're saying that millions and millions of people died in wars

and were fighting each other.

And meanwhile, the whole thing was just an illusion.

It makes no sense.

And by the way, do you think Jews control the Orthodox Church too? Because it was the Orthodox Church in early 1917, which repudiated the Tsar before the Bolsheviks even took power. And it was the patriarchate that was restored by the Bolsheviks. And the patriarchs of the Orthodox Church actually drew comparisons

between communism and Christianity,

just like Pope Francis did just recently.

And it was the patriarch of the Orthodox Church, of course,

who had a deep friendship with Stalin

and said that Stalin himself was an Orthodox Christian.

So are they Jewish too? I don't know.

Truth, go ahead. Your final response

on this topic, whether

basically communism is anti-religion.

Yeah, I mean, that's how communism started

out as anti-religion. But look

at the sense of entitlement. We were just

immature back then. Forgive the

fact we killed hundreds of millions of

people. We destroyed economies.

We caused wars. We did brutal invasions.

Now let's make peace. let's not pay any compensation

reparations or anything like that, which is what

the Jews expect collectively from the Germans

three, four generations down the road.

So you see the double standard they adhere to when

it comes to rule of law, what's good for thee,

not for me.

I'm going to take reparations for bullshit crimes.

I'm going to accuse you up.

But then when it comes to me paying what I owe you for the crimes I committed, oh, no,

there was no whole lot of meir.

There was no genocide of the Germans

after World War II when they killed over 11 million.

And he was trying to claim there

wasn't a hundred million. Maybe he was 80 or 90 million.

But either way, they'll never talk about a real

reconciliation. Now it's just that, well,

we were immature back then. We got

hooked on this whole atheist employee. Now we

realize we can actually get along with other

religions. But the

fact of the matter is, religions

in their purest form of state,

if it would be decentralized,

unlike what the Vatican is, it could

operate a whole lot better because then it's

to each their own. You're not enforcing

it or imposing it on anybody else.

The short answer to your question is no.

They don't control the Orthodox Christian church.

That's why they went about destroying so many Orthodox Christians.

They were the ones who committed the Armenian Genocide

where they wiped out a million and a half Armenians Greeks

in the series. They were the ones who of course went after

the Orthodox Church in Russia

which was the most powerful entity of the

Orthodox churches. Of course they were the ones

that also went after the Christians in Germany

as well. So you can see these sick

demented, twisted,

genocidal maniacs

absolutely hated Christians

because they are

the Antichrist.

They are of their father

descendants of the synagogue

of Satan

and they manifest themselves

through communism,

through Zionism,

and every other filthy

ideology that Judaism or

the Judaism can craft depending on time of day.

And now they want to try to deceive you

and gaslight you by saying, we were just immature

back then, forgive all of our crimes against

humanity. It was an accident. Please,

let's make amends.

Let's get along now. Well, it doesn't really

operate that way because Jews, Christians, Zionists

can't be trusted, especially the speaker.

Appreciate it. Okay.

Next question, I'm going to give this

one to truth. Truth, you could decide

if you want two or three minutes on this.

And it is this.

If the Soviet government supposedly, it's a bit of a long one.

So if the Soviet government supposedly hated Ukrainians and wanted to destroy them,

why did it create the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic and officially promote

the Ukrainian language, literature and culture throughout the 1920s through a policy called

Koranzatia, which specifically meant Ukrainianization. If the Soviets

wanted to erase Ukraine, why

did they institutionalize it?

Good question.

Do you want two or three minutes?

Three minutes.

What was the purpose of

creating this fictitious state of Ukraine, where Stalin gave up some of the territory to it?

Lenin did and Khrushchev gave up Crimea, East, West, and then created and also put up Jewish settlements in there as well.

It's not that they had something specific

against Ukrainians per se. They had a problem

with the Orthodox Christians and they wanted to turn

Ukraine into a Jewish state

as it is today. Who's running

Ukraine? Sinus Jew Zelensky

who funded him. Iho Kolomoisky

another Jew,

and Victoria Nudelman, and George Soros,

all Jews, and half the

state's been sold to Black Rock, a Jewish

institution that controls $11

trillion worth of assets.

So it's not that they had something personal

against those that were there.

They just wanted the Orthodox Christians' guns because they absolutely hate them.

But they also want to go back to creating that Qazarian empire they once had

and make Ukraine a part of the Greater Israel Project, because that's ultimately their aim.

And Zelensky has disclosed

this. It's quite clear what's happening here

and he also of course pays allegiance

to the tribe because the way these Jews operate

is they pledge allegiance to themselves

first before the state and they want to try

to occupy as much territory that they control

through of course their system of usury,

degeneracy, and of course, communism, which is the way they go and invade countries, topple regimes,

which is exactly what happened to Yanukovych.

When you ended up getting first Petro Poroshenko, then of course Zelensky there to be able to then give up control of the assets and allow

for, of course, the shelling and

the execution of Russians in the

Dormass area for eight years before there was

finally an intervention by Russia

to stop the bleeding essentially. So you see

the objective was never to care

about nationalistic ambitions for Ukraine.

They created this fictitious state because they love corruption.

And Ukraine is the most corrupt state in all of Europe,

and that's why they couldn't qualify for NATO or the EU,

because they were known for human trafficking, of course, child sex, slavery,

and of course, money laundering and all kinds of other crimes, because the Jews love their crimes.

They love creating these fictitious states taking controls or they can, again, have their different focal points and headquarters where they can get away with any type of crime similar to what the Jews do when they commit pedophilia, organ harvesting,

and all kinds of other heinous crimes in America and Europe,

and then fleeing to Israel to avoid prosecution,

it's where you can send your useless crackhead cell

like Hunter Biden to go and work for Burisma,

who has no oil and gas skills,

and he's getting paid $83,000 a month.

And then when they prosecute the Burisma for corruption, what happens?

So he calls Big Daddy who takes bribes, withholds a billion dollars.

Boom, the prosecutor's gone.

They love this type of no justice system that essentially only impacts.

Well, the Gentiles

who want to push back and want to be political

dissidents, they'll get wiped out, like the

Gonzalo Liris, who just will report

honestly about what's happening in Ukraine, he

gets tortured to death because that's how the

Jews rule when they control the country,

they'll wipe out dissent

and put political dissidents in jail, torture them,

and silence them, because that's essentially what the Jews are doing to America

and all the other European states as well

has to keep pushing their bullshit anti-semitism laws.

Thank you.

10 seconds.

Oh, brilliant. Thank you, truth.

Has you got three minutes.

Excellent. So, witness the schizophrenia on display here.

First, he cites the Ukrainian courts and the Ukrainian state propaganda funded by USAID

and the organization of Ukrainian Nationalists, which is the foundation of the

neo-banderist Ukrainian state today, as a source of credibility and legitimacy to support the

idea that the famine in 3233 was a genocide. He supports the anti-communist Ukrainian state today, which, by the way, has banned the Communist Party in Ukraine. It's banned communist symbolism. It bans Marxism, Leninism. It calls this a totalitarian ideology. It completely jails them and bans every trace of communist ideas. But on the other hand,

he says it's also Jewish run. So which one is it? Are the Jews communists and behind communism?

Or are the Jews behind the current anti-communist Ukrainian state that jails and imprisons and kills Ukrainian communists. Your worldview is

incoherent. It doesn't make any sense when you actually scrutinize it and compare it to the actual facts.

How can you say all of these things about the current Nazi Ukrainian state and

say it's all Jewish run, it's

a criminal state run by Jews,

but then cite that same state's

courts and propaganda against

the Russians and against the Soviet Union

when you're trying to demonize

and attack the USSR.

It's a completely incoherent world.

That's for the real reason why the Bolsheviks or why the Soviet government created the Ukrainian

Esstar.

It's very simple. The Germans were propping up existing Ukrainian nationalists and separatists that were actually gaining favor among the people in Ukraine.

So the only way the Bolsheviks could actually keep the former Russian Empire together and avoid the separatism is make this concession and give them the Ukrainian SSR.

Because the alternative was going to be Balkanization led by the Germans, which would have had Ukraine separate from the Soviet Union and lose from under Bolshevik control and become a so-called independent, which is really a German colony, which is what Germany even today wants, which is why it's pushing for a continuation of the war, even though they don't economically benefit from it. It's because they've always wanted Ukraine as their colony. And that was true even in the aftermath of World War I, as it's true today. So that's why the Bolsheviks helped create Ukraine, because the alternative was that it would

have fallen under the Germans' fear of influence. And the only reason the Russian Empire didn't

balkanized like the Middle East today and collapse is because of the Bolsheviks. They held it together.

The only people that can keep these giant mega states together Russia, China

and others are communists.

Without that, it all becomes like the Middle East,

Balkanization and a big shithole.

I appreciate that.

Truth, did you want to respond?

Shall we move to the next question?

Well, I didn't get to respond to his uh

his previous thing well you had your time you use it it's done stop playing

which which previous thing has for the previous question i get a right

shut up shut up for the previous question one second truth truth

truth truth truth truth just uh let me let me hear what he's got to say because I just want to make sure that everyone gets an opportunity. He's trying to steal my time like the Jew that he is.

No, one second. Let me see. He's not, he's not making an argument. He's just telling me about the debate structure. Go ahead. Haswell, we're saying?

I'm muted. I am muted.well, what you said? I'm muted.

I am muted.

I'm talking about you, boy.

I am fucking muted.

Yeah, I was muted, okay?

For the previous question, I answered and then Truth Teller answered.

I did not get an opportunity to respond to truth tellers' claim

during that previous question.

So why is he saying the opportunity to respond to me here?

So in the previous question, has

you went first, then truth, then you, then truth.

So if I went to you, then truth would have to go again?

No, no, but I didn't. I didn't, we went to you then truth i'd have to go again no but i didn't we went to another

question look at look at the cope here look at that yeah yeah i know so so

so because so in terms of the questions i could see

one second one second one second cruise don't drop me bro please

so listen the previous because we're in the question answer section, we're doing either

one or two rounds on each question because the audience question is quite a few.

So the first audience question, which was about, what was it about, whether it's antireligion has you were you spoke twice and then truth spoke twice and then this second question which is about ukraine that was a you spoke once sorry truth spoke once and then you spoke so that's and then i was going to ask if you both want one round each more on this, and then we were going to move to the next question.

Oh, yeah, that's fine.

Because that were...

Yeah, that's fine.

Yeah, so that we're not going to get through many questions for the audience.

That means it's my turn.

Do you understand how time management works now?

And so, Truth, did you want to have another go on this or did you want to go to

the next question?

Sure.

I'll have a

two minute reply.

We can need to

get two minutes

to be fair.

Yeah,

and then...

And I'm going to

deal his time

after,

because I'm not a Jew.

So,

now with respect

to the court argument Did you make Sorry truth give me two seconds

Let me just got the

Stuff watch back on

Truth how do we know you're not a Jew

Because I'm saying I'm not a Jew

Well

I mean as you said Jews try to disguise

themselves as you say they try to blend in Didn't you just said, Jews try to disguise themselves. As you say, they try to blend in.

Didn't you just say that Jews try to lie about their identity?

Why are you lying?

Truth, I think you're a Jew.

You have to live in an anonymity.

Why?

They want to kill me.

You are Jew.

You're lying about it.

You just said the Jews try to conceal their

identity.

I think you're

the Jews

and you get to

talk about

the whole time

we're talking about

any of the Jews.

Okay, okay,

guys, guys, guys.

Let's not,

let's not make a

person alone.

I don't think anyone's

bothered if someone's... Now, one's like a truth, truth. Truth, truth.

Truth, truth. Let's keep it to the debate because I think

you guys have done a really good debate and then people

are impressed with the information that you guys have relayed.

I'm getting a lot of comments and this has

been a very informative debate, so let's not

derail it to the point where people are like,

actually, now they just lost it. So let'sail it to the point where people are like actually now they just lost it.

So let's keep it to the two minutes and answer the.

So I'm going to start your two minutes now, truth.

I'm just going to wait 10 seconds because there might be a double mute.

And then I'm going to start it.

So you're going to have two minutes to rebut the point.

Just put your thumbs up if you're ready

and you can mute.

Yeah, brilliant.

I'll go for it through two minutes.

Thank you.

So I made the point earlier

about signing a court ruling.

It's funny, you just mentioned the Ukrainian court ruling.

Why about the Russian Duma court ruling that also acknowledged the Halotamir took place and even gave a number of around

7 million? Why'd you ignore that? Why would the Russians want to shoot themselves in the foot

to acknowledge the Halotomy took place when it gets to be used as atrocity

propaganda because that's what the Jews do.

They commit the crimes and then they blame the Russians

for it just as they committed the real Holocaust

against the Germans, but then they want to blame

the Germans for atrocity that never even happened.

The Red Cross already confirmed the numbers.

Since you love numbers so much,

how come the Red Cross didn't confirm $6 million?

In fact, why did the Auschwitz number

get revised from $4 million to $1 million?

I thought Jews are good at math. I thought they're high

IQ. What happened there? Seems really

interesting to me. Anyway, the way you cherry-picked

that one court ruling,

and you ignored the eyewitness testimony from Garrett Jones,

who was there physically, and he got killed for telling the truth

of writing 20 publicized articles in American media.

The Halotamir was actually real, and it took place.

Sawed his own eyes.

Arthur Kessler did the exact same thing

as a Jewish journalist.

It's really amazing to me

how you ignore that first-hand testimony

and also the Russian court ruling,

but you cherry-picked the Ukrainian one

to try to serve in your, again,

your pernicious, nefarious tactic

to try to score

a cheap point. It's just such a typical

Jewish behavior in what you represent and who you are.

But it's good. You're exposing yourself. Let the world

see what communism is all about.

You try to manipulate, exploit,

gaslight, and play cheap tactics

to try to push your demonic, satlight, and play cheap tactics to try to push

your demonic,

satanic, violent

ideology on the masses

which entails

once again

the violent

overthrow of the establishment

to control the means

of productions

and that's what the Jews

have done

in pretty much

every country

they've tried to be in.

They perverted with their degeneracy, their usury, and of course they push their

communism because they want to control the media and what gets published in the books.

And then they use the likes of these pedophiles.

Go on. Keep laughing like Jeffrey Epstein, who then what, used pedophile tactics to control

politicians and ensure they remain

loyal to the state of Israel.

Of course, the U.S.S. are operating the exact

same way. Time. Thank you for that truth.

As you can respond. Go ahead. Two minutes. Yeah, you've got to

calm down, buddy. You're tweaking. There's, Epstein's

not in the room right now, and I'm not Jewish.

I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

Now, the Russian Duma never called it a genocide.

They actually said the contrary.

He said it wasn't a genocide, actually.

It wasn't a genocide against any group.

They explicitly denied it.

There's not a single Russian court record that ever states that it was a genocide. So you just made that up and lied about it. Why did you do that? Can we follow up on it? Will you commit to that claim and actually?

Yeah, it's in the nest right now. You're unmuted yourself because you have low impulse.

Wait, way.

Wait, way.

No impulse control. Truth, wait. Well, what are you have to say?

No impulse control.

Truth, truth.

Truth.

Truth. Truth, you can't interrupt.

Like, that's just bang out of order, right?

Because now what am I going to do?

Give him the full two minutes again or, like, German.

So he didn't interrupt you and you're both being saying things that you both vehemently disagree with.

So, like intrep to you and you're both been saying things that you both vehemently disagree with. So like just keep it like let's keep the department.

Right. Okay. Truth. Don't intro please.

Okay. Um, has you got two minutes? Go ahead.

I mute. I'm muted. Once you unmute.

I am muted. I am still fucking muted. Once you unmute. I am muted.

I am still fucking muted.

It doesn't matter.

Yeah, I was still muted by the host.

But, uh, so yeah, the Russian Duma never called it a genocide.

No Russian court ever identified it as a genocide.

Even if they accepted a famine did in fact exist in 32, 33, they never

classified it as a genocide in any institutional level within Russia. So Gareth Jones admitted to

Walter Duranty that he never saw a single dead body. He's not reliable. He's not a credible source, and he's one guy. And I actually mentioned sources to the contrary of his. And even if he was a source that he saw and witnessed that there was, in fact, a famine going on, the idea that there was 10 million killed is not supported by the testimony of one person. How could he possibly know that?

Arthur Kessler is Jewish himself. So you're picking and choosing and cherry picking when and when we shouldn't trust Jews.

The majority of Jews, by the way, are anti-communists, and the majority of them in Russia were against the Bolshevik Party.

They supported the cadet party.

Today, Zionism is an anti-communist ideology.

Zionists helped bring down the USSR because they were upset that the Soviet Union wasn't allowing emigration to the Zionist entity.

They put tremendous pressure lobbying against the USSR because of that fact. Not to mention the fact the USSR was the main supporter and backer of the Arab cause. It's why the Palestinians were using Kalashnikovs and Soviet weapons because they were being armed and trained by the Soviets. They were traveling to Moscow, getting education, getting training from the Soviets. To fight Israel, as a matter of fact. During the 73 war, the only reason the Arabs had a fighting chance was because they were being supplied and equipped by the Soviet Union against Israel.

So what you're saying makes no sense whatsoever.

How could the Jews be supporting communism and backing communism while simultaneously funding the very forces that are undermining the Zionist entity and the Zionist state itself?

It makes no sense, not to mention communist China is even more aggressively supportive of the Palestinian cause, directly arming them and funding them.

Today, next to Hamas, the main forces of the resistance within Gaza, it's the PFLP, a communist group.

Are they Jews too?

They literally

fight with

guns and

weapons to

fight the IDF.

What are you

talking about?

You're

schizophrenic.

Okay.

Next question

we're going to

go to.

This was going

to go to

Haas.

And again,

you can decide

if you want two or three minutes on this question, is, what's got it?

Does communism promote feminism?

You can have two or three minutes on this.

So does communism promote feminism?

That's for me?

Yeah, it is.

Do you want two or three minutes?

I'll take three.

No problem.

Yep.

Yeah.

Go for it.

So, communism with a capital C, so Marxist-Lennon, his actual communist states,

repeatedly denounced and rejected feminism as a bourgeois movement. So there is a feminist

movement in the 19th century after World War I. And the Soviet thinkers and intellectuals denounced

it as a bourgeois movement. Of course, Marxists and

communists promoted a notion. Can you guys still hear me?

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Yeah, yeah, no, you're fine. It's probably going to crash right now. It's blue stacks.

Anyway, of course, communists and Marxists did promote a notion of women's equality.

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Um, yes, communists supported A, no, did you hear me up to that point or?

Yeah, you basically, up until you said, like, fuck it's crashed.

We were hearing everything.

Okay.

Yes, communists did support a notion of women's equality, which meant that women were allowed to pursue the same careers as men.

So women could get an education.

They could become doctors.

They could become engineers.

They could become scientists.

And they did on a maskell.

They could even join the army.

I mean, during World War II, the Great Patriotic War, some of the most deadly snipers in their Red Army were women.

They took out hundreds of Nazis. They were very proficient and skilled at this.

But that's not the same as feminism, because the Soviets and the communists consistently promoted a harmonious notion of family relations, where there is no such thing that they promoted

this idea of a patriarchy where men are completely in control and women have to completely

overthrow men and undermine them both fathers and mothers men and women were understood as foundational and pivotal to the structure of civilization and family life.

And none was considered more important than the other.

And motherhood was championed and promoted by the communist, even Lenin, in his interviews with Clara Zetkin when he was denouncing

sexual immortality and he was denouncing feminism as well.

He was saying that the role of motherliness is very important and women should have a more

motherly quality when it comes to their interventions in the social life to guide the youth and make sure the youth don't be led astray.

So communists don't agree with feminism because feminism is about a type of separatism where they create an idea that there's a patriarchy and women have to

overthrow the patriarchy. Communists believe that there is a

class war between the capitalist class and the working class. The working class is

both men and women. So it's not trying to say that

they don't consider women equal in a sense,

but it is definitely rejecting the feminist view as a bourgeois view,

part of the capitalist worldview.

So there you go.

Pretty sure that has a truth.

Go ahead.

You've got three minutes.

Yeah.

So I'll pause for one sec.

We've been going almost three hours.

We just want to know how much longer do you want to go?

I can keep going all night.

We're going to be wrapping up soon.

I think we're going to go another few more questions and then we'll be

wrapping up soon. No problem.

Thank you. So, just

a quick one. Yeah, sorry, go ahead.

Truth, you got three minutes.

Thank you.

Feminism is absolutely

a Jewish construct. it is also embedded

within communism of course

it's to mislead women into thinking

they're victims at all

really it was just a ploy used by the Jewish

banksters to double the tax base

essentially to get women working in the workforce

to not even

necessarily for high-end positions, but just

to be any type of position could be in

assistance and in mid and HR.

I'm not trying to downplay any of these

positions at all, but the reality is

the reason why they needed

the feminism in the first place is to use it as a guy's to hide the fact they just wanted to raise more tax revenue from the female base by doubling their tax revenue as a result of it. Now, with respect to the consequences of feminism, unfortunately, it's separated both men, women, from children because now you've got two people working in the workforce and they're having to balance their schedules to earn almost the same pay while having to pay more taxes now, unfortunately.

Yes, there's some tax benefits, but ultimately there should

be one person at home raising the kids

because that's what's worked throughout

centuries of civilization.

You should have one parent that's at least

one parent overseeing the children at all times.

You certainly don't want situations

where a woman comes home

stressed out and then has to deal with some chores

and then there has to be like chores sharing.

Because men and women were not created equal.

They're different beings in terms of

how they're viewed by, in terms

of the letter of the law, of course they're going to be viewed equally.

But in fact, it's not like that.

You see that with the family courts.

That's disproportionate divorces are initiated by women, of course.

They get 80% of the alimony, and the man pays 90% of the child support.

So you see it's a weaponized system that's used under the guise that's created

essentially a gender war between male

versus female and it takes

away from the traditional

Western

what communism

started to escape from in the first place

by again introducing all these liberal

lefty

constructs to be able to, again,

cause all types of divisions, because all the

source of the divisions essentially stemmed from the

Frankfurt School, which likes of both Max

Horkeimer, Herbert Mark Hughes, created

through the critical theory, which then later turned into the

critical race theory. So the Jews

through their constructs of both

multiculturalism, their

so-called diversity, their feminism, their

transgenderism, always want to just muddy

the waters. Why not just keep things traditional

the way they are? Avoid the race

wars, avoid the gender wars, avoid the sexual orientation wars, etc.

Keep through each additional and heterosexual and conservative and society who could continue to flourish.

If only the Jews would just back off and be controlled.

Thank you.

I appreciate that.

Hazab, would you like to take to a minister to respond?

Yeah, sure.

So the overwhelming cause of the enmity between the sexes between men and women is, of course, capitalism.

Because women were already being thrown into the workforce because of the capitalist

system. It's capitalism and its rapacious policy of the capital's class that makes it impossible

for a family to be supported by a single income. It's capitalism which promotes the sex industry and prostitution and women

having to sell themselves on their bodies in order to survive. These are all consequences of

the disgusting and fundamentally evil anti-human capitalist system that tweak teller supports.

So this is the problem. And the issue with this whole thing about the Frankfurt School, creating feminism, I doubt that's true. But even if it was, the Frankfurt School was funded by the OSS and was anti-communist. It was opposed to the Soviet Union. It rejected actually existing communist states and regarded them as fascists. So the Frankfurt School were not aligned with the Soviet Union. They weren't aligned with communist China. They weren't aligned with the DPRK. They weren't aligned with actual communism as it actually existed.

They invented their own cultural criticism, of course, but I wouldn't say that was feminist.

I would say that it was just a, it was too complicated for people like Tweed Teller to understand to explain the theory, but effectively Adorno was trying to invent a new version of Hegelian dialectics, which basically focused on, which rejected the notion of sublation in favor of negativity and a return to Kant.

Again, I don't want to get into the weeds of it.

But the Frankfurt School was funded by the CIA, and they were completely anti-communist in practice.

I don't know why he's mentioning them as an example of communist support for feminism

I appreciate the heart and a truth

go ahead of the response

it's always amusing to just

pin the blame on the CIA

or the OSS it's precursor

never point the finger at the CIA or the OSS, it's precursor. Never

point the finger at the Jews that are actually

preaching it, devising, and crafting it.

It's still Jews that were in charge of the

Frankfurt School within the Weimar Republic

where they were spreading their filth

and their degeneracy and the critical

theory, which is the source

of all isms, and once they got kicked

out in 1933, rightfully so,

unfortunately they ended up in America in schools

like Columbia and on some of the U.S.s

where they continue to spread their filth and degeneracy

and cause divisions between race,

gender, sexual

orientation,

et cetera.

So it's

really amusing

to me to

use the cop

and say,

but it's the

OSS.

Don't blame

the Jews.

You know who

else?

You know,

what else

the Jews run?

They run

only fans.

Who owns

only fans?

Isn't it a Jew that runs that?

Solomon and Salaminski or whatever his name is?

And who runs Equitable Capital

Partners? Solomon Friedman, that's right,

the Jewish rabbi. And he

controls over 11 websites. And you

know what he does? He pushes for legislation in various American states

so there won't be an age restriction of 18

because OnlyFans, not just OnlyFat,

Pornhub, has been caught posting child pornography

because the Jews love pedophilia.

They love to commit systematic pedophilia

because their

Talmud allows for it. So you see the

source of the filth, the generosity has nothing to do with capitalists.

Capitalism is a rigged crony

system that's controlled by Jews of the Federal Reserve.

They don't allow for an invisible hand

to actually take place and determine what

the market price should

be.

Instead,

they rigged

the markets and

cause market

crashes like

they did

the Great Depression

like they

did the great

recession and

then 18, 19

other market

crashes too,

but then they

of course

changed the

definition of

recession

anyways.

We went from

two straight quarters of negative growth to,

well, ignore that old definition.

We're just going to keep modifying

it to confuse people.

So this way the administration

doesn't look bad.

And it's Jews, of course,

controlling it to mislead the masses

and gashlet them

because they're typical

Jewish tactics.

They impose these sorts of isms

as if there's like

some source of compassion and something

humane behind it. Really it's just

a source or a way to create the visions

and to also tax the public and screw them

over. Thank you. Thank you for that.

Right. Last question and then we're going to

go to concluding remarks from both sides

uh and then let me just get this last question i think it's um you now truth right i just

i believe it's you first as it has i think i'm gonna go with you anywhere because I can't remember.

But I believe it was you.

So truth, the question is this.

Can we ask, and there is a question to you, actually.

Can we ask truth how the communist, and by the way, you can have two or three minutes with this, you can decide?

Can we ask truth how the Communist Party of China was created by the Jewish conspiracy, but somehow magically became communist as the state became more powerful globally? How does it suddenly shift from communism to Nazism? Truth, go ahead. Do you want two or three minutes?

I'll take three minutes.

Yep, go for it, too.

Just to clarify previously, it was Leonis Levinsky.

He used the one that owns only fans and promotes the sexual degeneracy and prostitution

of women digitally. It's Jews controlling

it and profiting off of digital

prostitution and human trafficking because of course

that's what they love doing.

Now, to the question

you just asked with respect to

how China became

why don't we go back a little bit further about

all the devastation and destruction

China unfortunately had to face because the opium

wars was caused by another Jew

David Sassoon and his family of eight

sons as well they got everyone

in both China and India hooked on

opium, devastated the country, killed

millions of people because of the overdose addictions

that were caused and set the country back

decades, decades

before they could finally recover to the point they're at

now. So yeah, by the time the communists

got there in the 1920s,

this is already a devastated country

that was already recovering.

So the Jews, what they did is they sent

there, they sent there guys.

So Gregory Voitinsky, he was a Bolshevik

communist intern and to China in

1920. He was a senior advisor

to contact prominent Chinese

communists, etc. to be able to plant

the seeds to then spread the filthy

ideology to destroy China

once again to set it back. Because of course

China unfortunately, even though they put up walls

to avoid invasions the jews

just can't hesitate just can't help themselves to go and destroy yet another country because

you know they haven't destroyed enough countries already including palestine and america and

all over europe of course and they destroy africa as. And of course, the likes of Sydney

Rittenberg were there, Solomon Adler, Israel Epstein. He was one of the few foreign-born

Chinese citizens of non-Chinese origin. Why are there all these Jews in China spreading

their filthy ideology and causing divisions within China? Nobody really asked the question. How did

they learn about communism in the first place? Was there

internet back then for them to figure out?

No, you had

Chinese, you had a communist

influence, influence

essentially coming down there to teach them how

to go and then impose it through

of course violence and that's how Mao was able to take go and then impose it through of course

violence and that's how Mao was able to take

power and then causes great leap forward

where he kill over 40 million Chinese people

and devastated the country

until it finally faded out

when communism collapsed because once again

it has to be funded through debt slavery

of course because that's essentially

what happened to the Chinese that were suffered from

communism. Now they've essentially transitioned

away from it. And they're much closer to a national

socialist ideology. The individual doesn't understand

at all, because if you did, you'd understand that you

can't have a stock market, private property rights, private

enterprise, or any type of ownership within the actual communist system,

unless you're diverting from that path, which is obviously a good thing, in which case you'll wake up and realize that national socialism is a superior ideology over communism, which should have never existed in the first place, but of course, you just

can't help. Jews just can't help themselves to create

these demonic ideologies

inspired by Judaism to go and

invade and destroy other countries,

assets strip them, steal all their wealth,

and then leave them with nothing, which is exactly

what Benjamin Nia was doing, essentially

to America when he states that America is a golden calf

that we're going to essentially

asset strip, we're going to cut it up,

divide it into pieces, sell it off

and turn it into a welfare state

and China, unfortunately, for itself, has transitioned

away from that. They're no longer communist, but they're itself, has transitioned away from that.

They're no longer communist, but they're much closer to national socialism and they're

able to lift people out of poverty caused by communism.

Appreciate it.

How's you got three minutes and two seconds?

Go ahead, jump in with your rebel.

Yeah, your ideology is so strong that the only test it was ever subjected to, which was a war about who could be the master race, was actually ended in Hitler killing himself and the Nazis being humiliatingly conquered by the Soviets, completely discrediting it forever. You have to claim our successes and claim that

communist states are actually national socialist because you don't actually read Marxist literature.

You don't know what communism or Marxism actually is. You make all these claims about how it's

impossible for markets to exist under a communist state, even though they existed even under Mao.

It just shows your illiteracy and how little you know about what communism is.

Regarding who introduced communism to China, you're just cherry-picking the Bolshevik representatives

and only mentioning the Jewish ones, not mentioning all the non-Jews. And by the way, Mao was not even liked by the commenter. The origin of communism, the word into China was actually from Japan. It was Japanese Marxists who initially were the most influential in bringing Marxism in. You don't know history. You just talk out of your ass. This is the problem. Ma was disliked by the common turn and wasn't directly following their orders, and that's what one of the factors that led to the Sino-Sovietz will later on. So Ma was not being beholden by any foreigners, let alone Jews. It's complete nonsense. The idea that 40 million people died during the Great Loop Forward, it's another anti-communist fabrication fairy tale that's pulled straight out of your ass. It has no basis, in fact. And the idea that China was under debt, under Mao is just laughable.

China was completely embargoed and isolated from the entire world under Mao.

How is it in debt to anyone whatsoever?

If it was under in debt, why did they even need to do the Great League Forward?

The whole purpose of that which was

to not have to take out any uh... foreign capital or foreign loans

and just build the premises of an industrial economy from scratch by literally

making pig iron

in people's backyards

so you're saying is complete nonsense it It's completely incoherent.

The idea that, for example, that these prominent Jews in the foundation of the People's Republic of China that a lot of people like to cite, you're just cherry-picking and only talking about the ones who are Jewish.

You're not talking about Lebanese people like, you know,

George Hatem, who is a Maronite Christian

from Lebanon. I guess that's really disproportionate as well.

What are the odds? What are the odds? I'm also the chairman of the American

Communist Party. I'm also Lebanese. Wow, I guess there's a big

Lebanese conspiracy. By the way, all these people, these foreigners,

they were all purged during the Cultural Revolution under Mao.

So for Jews that supposedly exercised so much control at the foundation of China,

why were they getting purged and attacked during the Cultural Revolution

if they were the ones in charge?

I guess that was Jewish infighting

and all these Chinese people

are actually Jewish.

At one point you look in the mirror

and ask yourself the question,

am I schizophrenic, am I mentally ill?

Am I actually tweaking at this point

and basically spiraling down

a path of psychosis

and losing touch from reality

when you're literally looking at

Asians who look Asian and saying those are Jews now it's complete nonsense as soon as China is

successful and is uh is surpassing the capitalist world second now is the time that you're claiming

that they're no longer communist conveniently overlooking how necessary Mao's policies laid the foundation for modern China as it exists today.

Go ahead.

Appreciate that.

Truth, did you want to respond for two minutes?

Or should we move on to the fund?

Yep, go ahead. Yeah, I'll respond thank you oh so that that's really amusing to me to just deny that under

mauzidung's regime that 40 plus million people didn't die once again it's violent event

and you can see the Jews

olds get away with breaking laws and committing

these types of crimes, because while they essentially

control the laws of the land, so that should

just be further proof, when it's

a Jews involved in the crime,

you're welcome to deny it. They welcome it, and they'll

pay you for it as well.

So it's very amusing to me to also hear

that China never took any debt, really?

Between 49, 1949

and 1976, Mao accumulated

debt. He absolutely had that. And his policies result

in a vast number of deaths with tens of millions

of victims of famine, political persecution, prison labor, executions, and a regime that is described as totalitarian. So much for being communism. You know what a famous Mao quote was, it is better to let half of the people die during a secret meeting in Shanghai

in 1950 so that the other half can

eat their fill. So let's wipe out

half the population so this way

the other half can eat well and then we can look like

we have a success story. So once again

you see how communism set back

China. And it was only a brief

period of time where they didn't take debt

because they were already essentially devastated

anyway so many people have been killed how are they going to finance

that same debt but then they went back to taking debt

and they have debt even today so it's not like

the debt system ever ended in China

it is under control.

They're in a much better spot than they were, of course,

because they got away from the principles of communism,

which devastated their economy.

And it was Jews absolutely in charge of the communist state of China

when it was fully communist,

when it was fully owned and backed by debt

from the same Jewish banksters for all over 20 years.

Before, again, about the time when Mao essentially died.

And then they started to restructure under Deng Xiaoping

and moved gradually towards closer to a national socialist model

which the individual still doesn't

understand. He thinks that's another version of

communism. It's not. National socialism around

antithetical to communism.

It involves actually taking care of the masses,

not imposing death slavery, and lifting

850 million people out of

this poverty

essentially. If communism is so great,

why are there almost a billion people in

poverty? Appreciate it. Hasgard

you respond two minutes and three seconds. The majority

of the world, the overall

majority of global poverty is

capital estates like India, so what are you even talking

about yes 40 million did not die during the great leap forward that's a completely fabricated

statistic i'm more than happy to go down the primary sources when it comes to that claim

how the hell is mao accumulating debt and being subject to usury?

You just made that up.

It's taking it straight out of your ass.

Just like you fabricated that quote from Mao completely,

the only thing that comes remotely close of Mao talking about a willingness to allow for a sacrifice of half of the population of the world, actually, was that he was not afraid of nuclear war. He was not going to back down when it comes to defending China's sovereignty. He was not going to allow the imperialist to bully and intimidate China with a threat of nuclear weapons. So he's saying, you know what? If in the defense of our sovereignty,

half of us get wiped out in nuclear war,

so be it.

And you know what?

That's why China remained independent

and nobody was fucking with China

because the U.S. knew China

was actually willing to risk nuclear war.

That's why nobody was messing with them.

So you know what?

Big ups and big respect to Mao for that.

And, you know, Mao created the foundation of the national industrial system that was a prerequisite and a premise for the ability for Deng Xiaoping's reforms to even take place. And if you've ever read Deng Xiaoping, you would know that these reforms were fully in line with Marxism. The only national socialist regime was Nazi Germany, and there's no such thing as national socialism without creating a war machine and going to war and plundering and conquering and exterminating your neighbors.

That's not modern China.

Modern China is a developmental estate that is understanding the Marxist notion of developing the productive forces

in order to advance relations of production into a higher stage, and understanding that the fundamental source of political sovereignty and political legitimacy is being able to constantly renew and develop the forces of production. This is fully in line with Marxism, actually. It has nothing to do with so-called national socialist gibber,

which is completely a consequence of Adolf Hitler's quiefs in Mind Kampf, where he just pulled

everything out of his ass and lied to the world while in secret working with Germany's major

industrial capitalists to destroy the Soviet Union

and enslave the Slavic peoples

of Eastern Europe.

I appreciate that.

Right.

The last section that we're going to go to

is concluding remarks

for five minutes

from each side

appreciate has on

truth in the meantime guys

obviously I'm going to put a poll in the next

in a second but just

appreciate both them coming on so it'll be a five minute

concluding remarks

by has and truth

I believe a truth went first, right?

So we'll go for Haas first this time for the concluding remarks.

So it'll be five minutes on the entire topic of discussion, which is the big debate, Bolshevitz and Holdemar, what's the truth?

Has it a do jump in?

Five minutes.

So at the best, what I wanted to reveal in this debate is that truth teller cannot commit

to a single claim because every single one of his claims, when you actually scrutinize

them, when you actually go to the roots and see what

is he getting this from? Where's the source of this claim? It will all be revealed as a complete

fabrication. I implore everyone, whenever you see one of these JPEGs, one of these threads, one of

these pictures that have all this text claiming this or that. Ask what the

primary sources. What book is this coming

from and where's the book getting this information

from and why is this being said?

You have to actually check the sources.

You can't just take things at face value

just because you want them to be true. They confirm

your biases.

This guy is a prolific liar and bullshitter, whose basic strategy is to diarrhea

bullshit a bunch of claims, so you don't

actually have time to scrutinize each and every

one of them, which is why he can't commit to one.

Now, here's the thing. He's failed to demonstrate

that the Bolsheviks were Jewish run. He has not been able to respond to the arguments about why his position is fundamentally inconsistent and illogical in the face of the actual facts. And moreover, the idea that Marxism or communism is fundamentally Jewish doesn't make sense when you

understand that the largest Communist Party in the world, the Communist Party of China, are Chinese

people. This is why these people have to now claim that China and the Chinese are Jewish. It's

total schizophrenia. Now, here's the thing about this notion of Jews controlling

the world and whatnot. Even if it's true that all of these Jews who are peddling the sex

industry and all these exploitative industries and so on, even if we accept it that's true,

which it's not, why are you defending the very system that allows for anti-human practices

and anti-human antisocial manifestations to emerge in the first place?

Is it necessary that someone has to be Jewish in order to engage as a predatory capitalist

and exploiting the people and

bringing on anti-social phenomena

and leading to the decay of civilization?

Absolutely not.

Capitalism didn't come out of nowhere

and by no means is it necessary

for you to be Jewish to be a capitalist. Most of the capitalists in the world aren't Jewish. So what he's saying is complete nonsense. He talks so much about pedophilia, but is he going to defend the Tsar's policy of allowing 11-year-olds to be registered as prostitutes, walking around the streets of Moscow in St. Petersburg,

as 11 years old as prostitutes, registered and sanctioned by the state? What about the degeneracy

and debauchery under the Tsar, which is the only, the two examples of a society he lists as Paradise on Earth were Tsarist Russia, which

was a shithole where pedophilia was legalized, and Nazi Germany whose crimes are so severe

that if he were to go to Russia today and defend Nazi Germany and the way he is, he would probably get

physically assaulted. So many people

whose ancestors

and whose grandparents suffered

and perished as a consequence of that war, how much

they sacrificed, it's a complete insult

he has the Russian flag in his name.

He's completely insulting the Russian people by defending the crimes of Nazism and

defending Hitlerism. Finally, I want to go also as far as to say that one of the main

issues from the entire premise that he's operating with is, this guy, truth teller, all he does is tweak and twitch about Jews.

What's his solution?

All he does is whine and complain about how the Jews are all powerful and there is,

what is your solution?

Because as the chairman of the American Communist Party,

we have a solution to the problems we're facing. I think everyone in this

space more or less can agree we have a rotten and corrupt system in general. We disagree about how we

explain that. But we as the American Communist Party have a path forward, a strategy forward for overthrowing

and toppling that system, which Marxists alone have been

successful in doing. This guy has no

strategy. All he does is sit in his dark

basement in a dark corner and tweak

and complain and twitch about the Jews.

Because the whole point is to make you feel powerless.

It's defeatism. The Jews are all

powerful. There's nothing we could do.

They control the communists. They control the capitalists.

They control everything. They even control me.

The whole point of it is to turn people

into these schizophrenic husks

of men and kill

their fighting spirit, kill their ability

to actually be revolutionaries, and organize against the system in any capacity, because they're just going to claim that any organization, anyone who's actually making moves successfully against the system, is themselves Jewish. By claiming that I'm Jewish, by claiming my party is Jewish, by claiming the Bolsheviks were Jewish, by claiming China is Jewish, what they're effectively saying is that no opposition to the capitalist system is possible. Submit, sit in your corner, tweak like a crackhead and a meth head about the Jews. Sit back and just do that while you're getting screwed over by the ruling capitalist

system, while the wealth is being plundered, while people are falling into poverty, while people are

falling increasingly into debt, while families can't support themselves, while people are getting

addicted to drugs, while civilization itself is collapsing,

your solution is just to tweak like a crackhead and a meth head tweaking about Jews. And before you say

your solution is national socialism, that is not possible unless you have the support of the ruling

capitalist class, which Hitler did in fact have. Without the support of the ruling capital's class, which Hitler did in fact have.

Without the support of the major German

industrialists in the 20s

in late 1920s, the thing would have never

gotten bankrupted and financed from the first place

because the Hitlerian strategy has nothing

to do with building a base of support

among the masses and organizing

from scratch from the people.

That's the communist strategy. That's exactly what

the Nazis were propped up to

make impossible

in the conditions in the case of Germany.

Ten seconds.

I'll actually just leave it there.

Appreciate it.

Truth, I'll let that go for five minutes and ten seconds.

I'm going to let you have the exact same amount of time.

Truth, your concluding remarks.

Just before you do, guys, the Paul is in the nest.

Who won the debate?

Hazeldine or Truth Teller. Do give us your thoughts. Go ahead. the poll is in the nest who won the debate Hasl Dean or

truth teller do give us your

thoughts go ahead truth your last five minutes

for concluding remarks

five minutes and 15 seconds go ahead

sure yeah thank you

thank you for moderating and thank you

for all for listening.

It's been a spirited debate.

You can see that he who has to resort

to ad hominem and insults,

well, he's lost to debate

because he can't beat the arguments.

Instead, he wants to stand by his demonic,

diabolical failed

and here he is

interrupting again

typical low impulse

Jewish tactics

Solomon please at time

because the Jew

can't respect the rules

I mean they just keep

exposing themselves

and if you want to know

who won the debate

he just keeps exposing himself

And showing the world who he really is

The Jews can't follow rules

They don't like elections

They don't like democracy

They don't like rule of law

And that's why they consistently cheat

The scheme

They gaslight

You straw madned arguments.

A whole lot of ad hominant.

They'll resort to violence.

And you said that, hey, if I ever go to the Donbass area, that I'll get beat up because

Jews will get violent with me and try to kill me.

Just as Jews that have a bounty on my head and want to kill me from my views.

So you just see a consistent pattern

of behavior in this predisposition towards

violence, low impulse control.

He also mentioned like mental illness

and stuff like that. Well, I mean, which particular

group is known for inbreeding

and passing on like mental order

genetic defects such as

schizophrenia, such as

multiple personality disorders, such as

paranoia. Yes, the Jews,

his people. So once again,

every accusation is a confession

They'll commit the crimes, the resort to the ad homer, the gaslighting, and then they'll blame the victim for the crimes that they commit.

And that's what communism is and of course Judaism and of course Zionism all revolve around.

It's just ideologies and systems

based on deception to try to

fool the masses and that's what he's tried to do today

while demonizing a system that already

has a proof of concept. It works.

Germany went from brink of bankruptcy

to superpower to number one economy

in the world, most powerful economy in the world,

and to global powers to try to defeat them.

And in fact, the same ideologies more or less were tried in Syria and Libya successfully,

and both those countries were destroyed as well.

It's the USSR and communism that's a destructive and aggressive and a violent ideology that entails invading other countries once again.

Who fucking brought the establishment and funded their entire fucking military?

Every single fucking plane and

a slave state

that's a debt written

essentially

was from the Soviet Union

you fucking retard.

And they're subject

to of course

inflation and

unemployment.

They're lucky if they have jobs

or if they're even getting

right.

And the only time communism was

ever tried will have failed. The USSR

doesn't exist anymore. All the satellite states

are gone and none of them want to revert back to

communism and you see the communist

the communist class

in Russia. We barely get one or

two percent of support.

He's trying to revive it because he's an opportunist.

He just sees a way to be able to pave a path forward.

Now he talks about solutions.

I'll take the rest of the time to speak about a viable solution.

You have to take Jewish check Jewish power.

It's quite simple.

You get rid of these areas banks.

You get rid of institutions of course

in all the pro-Jewish lobbies like APAC

and J Street is set out. How? How do you

do it? You're claiming all of the ruling people are Jewish. You can't

avert back to a natural social system. How do you fucking do it? You institute

your own

in-house treasury and use a currency

that's backed by labor with no debt and no

interest and you enable people to own their own

homes so this way you can eliminate

the drug and crime problem

and certain people actually have a path towards prosperity

they're not going to have a need to go and commit degeneracy,

which is what the Jews rely on,

to be able to profit and monetize it

once they see the opportunity when people are in a hapless, desperate state,

which is how they were during communist era,

when there was rampant prosecution,

rampant abortion, rampant

feminism and all kinds of other liberal policies

to again keep them distracted from the fact

they were getting screwed over, they owned nothing

and it was a failing ideology

that ended up leading to the collapse

that had devastation, destruction of the USSR

which set Russia back well over

100 years, and they're still catching up

on the population losses. They sustained

from 74 years of

first communism, and then, of course, the Harvard

boys, pretty much all Jews came in and destroyed

the country once again for the next 10 years.

And fortunately, the current administration there is playing catch-up and trying to essentially deal with all the wounds caused from the 84 years of Jewish power that destroyed Russia,

just as the Chinese have done who were playing clean up and kicking out all the filthy Jews who promote their sick, demented

ideologies of communism, Zionism,

and Judaism all revolve around

one central theme. And that's

the destroyed, devastates deal, and be the

parasitic people that they are to suck the wealth

out of every country they're in, at the

expense of the Gentile and it stands

from their religion of course through the Talmud Torah

etc. So you see you have to check Jewish

power and then enable people to be able to succeed

because now they're no longer going to have to be taxed anymore

there won't be any more inflation. They'll be consistent work and people

will have homes. There'll be no more crime. There'll be consistent to work and people who have homes.

There'll be no more crime.

There'll be no more degeneracy because you want to put people on a spiritual path

because the Jews and the atheist comments,

unfortunately, they have a problem with religion.

They don't want you to submit to God.

They'd rather you submit to their idol worship

of just bending down

to a state that doesn't care

about you that owns all the assets and wants to work

you to the bone

where you're left with nothing

where you're left with death, murder, destruction,

torture and every demented idea

that comes into their sick minds where they're creating

things such as what Dr. Death

did, chemicals to kill you faster

or get more about gas chambers and all

kinds of ways to kill you, hurt you, and

punish you. And they also do things like

creating viruses. Why are all these

biolabs? Who's running these biolabs?

Why are there so many that were funded by Victorian Noodleman in Ukraine?

Ten seconds.

Who's the run running, of course, the likes of CDC and the FDA, etc.?

All Jews that were pushing MRNA and the bio-weapons, etc.

are to kill millions of people as part of their depopulation agenda.

Watch off for these schemers.

Time, thanks.

Right, guys.

I want to thank Hans and Truth for an amazing debate.

I think it was largely respectful.

They had a great conversation,

great debate. They presented their

idea and thought in a very cogent,

concise manner. We had

a number of polls. I'll read the results out.

Obviously, take polls

with however you want to.

The first one was round one were the Bolshevitz Jewish.

True tele got 57%, has got 43%.

There was 2,122 votes.

Round two is the Holder more real and was it a genocide of Christians?

True tele got 56%. teller got 56%

Has it got 44%

1,9008 votes

Who were around 3 is

Communist Jewish

There was 1,775 votes

Truth Teller 57%

Has 43%

Round 4 did Hitler have an alliance with Zionist Truth Teller 57% has 43% round 4 did hitler

have an alliance with Zionist truth teller

56% has 44%

and there was 1,5008%

round 5 is

do Jews run the world truth teller

58% has 42%

1,49993 votes

Who won the debate?

There's currently

been 644 votes right down the middle

50%

50% it's even

at the moment

Great debate.

Appreciate everybody joining in.

I read all the comments.

Did try and get through the questions.

Has and truth.

Thank you so much for giving everybody your time

and presenting your arguments.

I really appreciate it.

I had a great time. It was really fun.

Solomon, thank you so much for having me on. And, you know, I don't, I didn't mean to

disrespect the space, uh, you know, by, uh, interrupting a few times. I think he did that as

well. I think it's natural.

Overall, you know, I hope I was well-behaved, but I had a great time, and I'd love to do this again sometime, actually. We're humbled and owns and take your filthy ideology with you.

I'll just let my debate speak for itself

instead of coping and crying myself.

It did.

People see right through.

Yeah, well, I'll just let it speak to yourself.

I first of all, I think you both did a great job.

I think there was one or two interruptions by both of you.

And I said that's a minimal because in reality,

I think any debate is very difficult to maintain within the two minutes or five minute timeline.

So I appreciate how's coming onto the debate.

I appreciate truth coming on to the debate.

I think you did both impressive.

Actually, when I've seen your last few debates

has obliterated his opponents.

I know truth's obliterated quite a few of his opponents.

So both of you coming on and basically

it was a very, very good debate.

And you can see that by the polls, by the reaction.

I think people enjoyed it.

We'll definitely be doing more debates on a wide range of issues. I think people are very much interested in both of your points of view, whether it's communism, Zionism, Judaism, and various other things. So we'll definitely get you both back on for various other debates and with other people and we're

going to get other people on as well when we're going to make this a regular thing in terms

of debates and it's very academic like I really appreciate it I think people learned a lot I think

both sides are very knowledgeable so appreciate it guys we are going to be wrapping up the space

thanks to has and truth for coming on I think they did great So appreciate it. Guys, we are going to be wrapping up the space.

Thanks to Has and Truth for coming on.

I think they did great.

They were both very respectful, largely speaking.

Obviously, everyone disses a little bit here and that.

That's normal.

They're much better than I am in these type of situations.

So, I appreciate all joining in.

And by the way, the playback's going to be there. I'm going to keep it pinned if anybody wants to listen to it.

There's a good three hour plus debate.

It was fire.

So do listen back onto that whenever you please.

I appreciate everybody joining in.

I appreciate everybody listening.

And for sure, we will see you all next time.

I think it's going to be ended. All right. So here's the thing guys here's the thing about the polls i appreciate all you going to vote

if you haven't go vote you know but at the end of the day, this is the situation.

The widespread myth of Judeo-Bolshevism is the dominant norm.

Okay.

Every week at minimum, I'm seeing tweets get tens of thousands of likes with hundreds of thousands of impressions saying the bolsheviks

were Jews and communism is Jewish. That's the default. Okay. I am open to criticism to see

how I could reverse that in one debate, but I'm pretty sure people already made up their

minds before I even opened a single fucking word. Before I uttered a single fucking word, people

already had their minds made up about that shit. Because the information warfare being conducted by the far right is so overwhelmingly stacked against us that every fucking week, you get these viral fucking tweets making the same claim for a year.

And we've tried to push back on it the most we can,

but leftists sabotaged the shit out of us

by getting us distracted and having us to focus on the left flank of the war,

allowing the far right to proliferate more than it ever has.

So as far as, like, before I open my mouth,

majority of people already made up their mind.

The thing is, I think a lot of people were opened up to a new perspective,

even if the majority of people did not vote in my favor, which they didn't. It seems like the majority of people voted for him. But that's the default. You have to understand that. That's what's already in place. Those people's minds are not going to be made up either way. But I feel like

there's a great many people who saw this and were exposed to a perspective that they didn't see before.

The shit he's saying is what everyone already believes. It's what they're used to. It's what they're

comfortable with. What I was trying to get in, I was getting two minute, three minute windows

because of the debate structure, was opening people's minds to new arguments and new

perspectives that they didn't have before. So that's the bare minimum, I guess.

But winning them over to our position in one debate is not going to be possible.

I never had that illusion to begin with.

It's absolutely not possible. And I think that people are going to look at

this debate and they're going to see, you know, they're going to be exposed to a new position

and a new perspective that obviously does interest them and fascinate them.

ABC Dent, what's up?

There is no, but here, look, the objective truth, the objective truth, there is no universe in which you could say he won.

I don't know how anyone could claim he won.

Like, he did not produce any arguments,

and when it came to my actual points, like,

okay, for example, if Jews were in control,

why were they getting shot, you know?

Or, you know, the claims are not substantiated by primary sources.

You know, if the goal, thank you so much, ABC, appreciate you so much.

If, when it came to the actual arguments I made that pointed to the inconsistencies in his line of thinking, he had no response.

He couldn't actually rebut them.

I think the highlight of the night for me, well, what's up?

The highlight of the night for me, right? Highlight of the night for me, well, what's up? The highlight of the night for me,

right?

Highlight of the night

was when this guy,

I asked him,

commit to one

concrete example

of Jewish control,

just one.

DG, what's up?

He couldn't do it.

He tried to name

Putin saying 80, that's an appeal to a logical fallacy. It's an appeal to authority. What's the methodology behind that claim? Break it down. Where's that coming from? He couldn't do it. He couldn't commit to a single example of Jewish control. A single name, Yagoda, name one person who proves

Jewish control. Name one Jew, right? That's a loaded question. He couldn't do it. Everyone saw

him fucking squirm being unable to answer that simple fucking question.

Lady, what's up? That was enough for me to expose the shit out of this guy to everyone, you know?

And that's just it. It was enough for me to expose this shit out of this guy that he could not answer such a simple

fucking question, you know? Jason, what's up? Appreciate you. You know, Hmm. But guys, don't give up the audience. Keep fighting the information war. Don't give it up. Keep fighting in the comments. Keep fighting. Keep spreading the truth. Because you've got them by the hook. You can't fucking let go now. You've got to keep going in there. You've got to keep making sure you're going to raise

our banner to the highest hill. Because

remember, Red Army is

the strongest.

Yeah, he never acknowledged the

Theodore Herzl quote. He didn't acknowledge

any of my fucking arguments.

Okay. So

you guys got to go in there

and do the fighting. Because remember,

our leftist detractors will never

ever position themselves.

Imagine if they were in my position.

Could they fucking debate this guy?

Could they even speak to this audience? Could they even fucking do it? They would have no ability,

you know?

The round structure made it very difficult, but, you know, each and every one of his claims, we went

down a list and just fucking shattered all of them.

There's stuff about J.P. Morgan, stuff

about the Titanic. Yeah, he said the only

countries that aren't under jewish control

China Russia Venezuela huh what do they all have in common I wonder But there you go. Amila with the 10, what's up?

Amila with the 10.

What's up?

Amilo, what's going on? Thank you. Yo, DeVito, what's going on?

Maga, Kami, what's going on with the 10?

Appreciate you. Remember, we have it all stacked against us.

They have on their side the Nick Fuentes.

The whole fucking, let me explain to you what we were going up against.

The whole far right, and talking about the audience, the whole far right,

we have none of the leftists backing us. Imagine

if the actual self-proclaimed leftists

were backing us up.

We would fucking dominate them, right?

But what do they do instead? They attack us.

So we are fighting the so-called leftists,

and we're fighting the far right, and we're fucking doing it alone. So remember that.

It's very simple. Lil greasy.

What's going on?

Jimmy, what's up?

Guys, a total tweaker.

Jimmy, what's going on, man? You know, You know, Yo, Project 2036 with a 5.

What's going on, man?

Ah.

Well... Well.

Strel, Stanley, what's going on, man?

Appreciate you. I'm just checking my DMs because I'm getting a lot of DMs.

Um, um, anyone could say truth teller won that. It's kind of fucking ridiculous.

It's kind of fucking ridiculous.

But

yeah, of course he's going to

cope.

Yo, Jason Schmidt, what's going to cope. Yo, Jason Schmidt.

What's going on, man?

Appreciate you. He's really coping in his own post-debate, safe space.

Yo, MF, What's going on?

Literally, their only argument is that they claim I'm Jewish. That's just not, you know, speaks for itself.

Yo, K. FM, what's going on?

Appreciate the five.

You know what's crazy?

I'm seeing non-gorillas clown the fuck out of this guy.

That's what's like pretty reassuring.

I'm seeing non-garillas clown the shit out of him. Yo, Julian, what's going on, man? Appreciate you. You know, The Yo, Osos, What's going on man?

Appreciate you Yo, Red Guardian, what's up? You know, We're going to keep doing more of these debates, though, guys, we're not going to win over this crowd that's already decidedly in favor of the lies in one debate.

We're going to have to keep doing these.

And that's what I intended to do.

The whole point was a campaign against the far right.

Unfortunately, who snaked

us and

distract these efforts?

Harold, what's going on? It was the leftists.

You know, they completely, by wasting

time forcing us to

defend against the accusation that

we're Nazis, you know, why am I fighting back against the accusation that we're Nazis.

You know, why am I fighting back against the leftist claim that we're Nazis?

Because we are trying to recruit left-wing soldiers to fight the far right.

But when they constantly call me a fucking Nazi and a fascist, they isolate me against the only fucking pool of people that could potentially be converted over to our cause, at least enough of it, so we can be united against the fucking Nazis.

You see what they fucking do?

It's like we are being isolated from every direction.

And who do you blame the most?

These leftists.

These tweaking far-right fucks are easy to steamroll and destroy.

But when we're being so isolated by our left

flank, they're making it fucking difficult

for us and they're sabotaging us. But that's okay.

We got to accept the circumstances we're in.

We have to accept these circumstances.

We have to accept that this is the...

This is the cards that have been dealt to us.

There's nothing we can do about that.

But nobody should ever

forget that betrayal. Nobody should

forget that this is treachery.

Also, I don't know if i maybe to do self-criticism was i like not emphasizing strongly enough that i'm not a jew was that important in the debate or something because i'm caught why am Why am I being a, they're claiming the Jews did every disease and every fucking problem.

It's like, I'm here to defend the Bolsheviks. I'm here to defend communism.

Why is this made up fabrication and libel against Jews applicable to me.

Like, how is that an argument against me and my position?

You know, you can tweak and be a psychotic all you want,

claiming the Jews control the weather.

What does that have to do with the fucking debate

about the Bolsheviks and the

Holodomor? I don't understand. It's got nothing to do with me. I'm not even Jewish. Even if I was

Jewish, which I'm not, I'm not a Jewish nationalist, and my primary mission isn't to argue about

the Jews. My primary mission is to defend Marxism, Leninism, and we will state our position very

clearly. It's stupid to claim that the Jews control everything, and it's's all the Jews when 100% of Jews do not

control everything and 100% of the capitalists are not Jews. Sorry, let me rephrase that. Not all

the capitalists are Jews and not all the Jews are in power.

That's what I meant to say.

But all the people in power are capitalists,

and not all of them are Jewish. So this is our very simple position.

But yeah.

Can you say, You know, See, I'm somebody bringing a new argument. as simple as that He's got to run a post-debate cope space to feel reassured.

Who gives a fuck?

All right, guys, let's get to actually editing this debate as quick as possible and making it ready for upload.

Editing for YouTube as a Vod. Notude not editing like clipping it out and shit but like let's make it let's make let's let's let's just cut into the debate so the post debate and

the pre debate get rid of that just have the debate, so the post-debate and the pre-debate, get rid of that.

Just have the debate and get it ready or upload with a low file.

But don't edit the debate, like the content of the debate, don't like edit things out or whatever.

But the Vod on kick, let's just get

it ready, you know?

So I could just upload it right away.

I'll probably upload this to the

Haas Aldean channel

rather than the main

infrared channel. Just the main infrared channel.

Just because the infrared channel, I want to keep for in-person high-profile stuff, like, you know, when I was meeting with Dugan or something like very eventful.

And streams I would like to just have on the Hazaldine channel.

Although that may change.

I may actually put this on in there for a channel.

I don't know.

Also, I don't know if it's okay for YouTube TOS. OS. Oh boy. You know, You know, look i'm open to criticism but how the fuck can anyone say he won? Like, I genuinely

want to know, are people

who claiming he won literally just like

he already just said all this shit I already

believed and I'm just not willing to like

even consider the other side?

Because like, if you're actually

following the debate, how the fuck do you claim he won?

Am I crazy for thinking that? Like, how the fuck could anyone claim he won?

You know, but we know what it is. It's the Groypers and people already committed to pushing a specific narrative at the expense of facts, which they've been doing pretty consistently.

And that's that.

The fact we're even able to...

The fact that the poll is not 99% versus 1% is already pretty fucking crazy.

That means there's a lot of non-garillas we are clearly winning over. Your fans are what are you taught?

It's the opposite.

He retweeted

every poll. That's interesting.

I did not do that.

Look, no,

logically, though, think about it. Is there

a scenario in which we would have won that poll?

I don't know.

Every poll, I don't know.

No, if I went psycho, they would have just said I was unhinged.

There's already people who are crying about me calling him tweak teller.

They try to use that to discredit my position entirely.

Retweet the polls. I'm not going to retweet the polls. I don't give a fuck.

I think people see the poll names, and they're just going with what they already fucking believe.

It's that simple. I mean, like, Candice Owens,

Publiss, our side is losing this war. That is very

much clear. But that's not

just because of me. I am one of the

people fighting the hardest.

No one else is fighting from our side.

When I say our side, I mean people calling themselves Marxists.

Of course, my comrades in leadership in the ACP, they're fighting.

But like, Hassan Piker's not fighting this war,

none of the major leftist influencers are fighting.

Unfortunately, Deep Program is not fighting this war.

It's just us.

And yes, the far right is winning.

Absolutely.

We tried to prevent this outcome by killing it in its early stages, but we got detracted,

and it became so overwhelming when Candice Owens

started signing. The minute Candice Owens

started fucking pushing this

shit, it became so

insurmountable for us to have

hegemony on X. We would have needed an equivalent large

influencer to push back on it or debate Candace Owens or something. But like it didn't happen. Nobody

gave a fuck, right?

Maybe you guys need to have a debate on a specific point. Well, that's the issue. He won't commit to any specific point. He has to commit to five points at a time because it's impossible

for someone to to pin him down on anything. So he lists five things and I respond to those five things.

Then he's going to list 10 things. So he's going to keep increasing the claims to make it so that there's always an infinitesimal gap between the ability for anyone to make a counterargument and him to follow up on that specific line of argumentation.

That's why I said one thing that you can commit to. He won't ever fucking do it, you know,

and that's the issue. You know, You know, You know, Fuck, you can't reason with a person like that. They straight up will not, they will not actually follow through on any specific point

or claim.

They won't follow a line of argumentation consistently.

It's that simple.

So, guys, I think we're going to wrap it up here.

Once again, let's get the kick vod and just get the debate.

So the debate so the debate um can just be posted in its entirety

and uh yeah it's 2 a m wow this is a 4 hour stream holy shit pretty crazy all right guys i don't think i'm gonna be Wow. This was a four-hour stream. Holy shit.

Pretty crazy.

All right, guys, I don't think I'm going to be streaming Tuesday.

I will keep you updated.

Bye-bye, guys.

See you later.