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hey what's up buddy yeah what's up

sit the hop on

um

minutes with this chat sorry um yeah oh

you felt like i didn't address any of

the points that you brought up

no did you miss the whole conversation

or

no you didn't actually address the

substantive uh

okay once i read this thing do you feel

like i didn't address

um on the question of the possibility of

third parties and whether people should

be investing their time and energy in

them so my answer was you shouldn't be

investing your time and ener energy into

a third party because by doing that

you're necessarily pulling away support

from a party that's more likely to agree

with you there's no guarantee that at

any point in even the near or distant

future that party is going to become

viable so all you're doing is seeding

ground to people that you're less likely

to agree with while you try to work on

some project for a third party yeah but

that that assumes that you can say that

uh

that assumes that

it is necessarily true that a third

party isn't going to be possible and it

always assumes that a third party

necessarily will be but i mean if we

look at the data no no it's more likely

to be correct so as far as i'm concerned

when it comes to politics there's

absolutely no guarantee of anything

either way okay wait wait no no stop

yeah can we speak in reasonable

probabilities sure yeah okay so

reasonably what's more likely that a

third party will materialize in the next

four or five election cycles or not

well okay this is why i said you didn't

address my point because i never made it

way i addressed your point earlier you

just okay

a third party will materialize on the

basis of the actions of the agent for

whom this is a meaningful judgment or if

they're not speaking wait wait speaking

of english okay we'll materialize for an

agent of which this is yeah yeah let me

simplify that i'll go ahead and see it

now you don't have to simplify it make

it make sense because what you just said

was meaningless no it wasn't meaningless

because the question is is it going to

materialize

with or without your participation

and then you're going to make the

judgments of okay i should help and

participate in building a third party

because i'm not actually saying that

it's going to materialize

independently of the actions of the

people i'm trying to address in the

first place you're not okay stop

thinking in big senses and big words

because you're missing everything i'm

saying so what you just said i don't

think it's going to materialize without

the actions of other people obviously i

agree with you because without your

actions the per people i'm trying to

address

oh you wait when you say you hold on i'm

sorry when you say you do you mean like

me personally or you as in like a

general listener i mean the audience

that i'm trying to address yeah okay yes

so my initial problem my main contention

was that if you take people out of the

political system to work on a third

party then they're necessarily going to

be taking away support from a party that

they would more likely agree with ceding

power to the other party that was my

whole issue

yeah within if we accept that the two

parties that exist now are the only

parties that are ever going to exist

sure but my whole point was that the

only way we could ever have a chance of

a third party is it people take that

risk

okay but you're asking people to take a

massive risk

and forego real political power and in

the hopes that

10 years 50 years from now a viable

third party materializes

the reason i consider that reasonable is

i think if you ask anyone who's willing

to be honest about it the idea that the

current um two-party system is going to

be like sustainable in the long run and

that it's going to be able to contain

america's current political

contradictions i don't think anyone even

establishment

uh ideologies how long having these two

political parties been around for over

like 150 years or whatever yeah but this

was the argument i also brought up

during the debate is that if you look at

the historical reasons for these

fundamental political realignments and

rise of third parties in the united

states

we are ticking all the boxes like right

now is as the conditions are right based

on the president in the past forced like

if there's ever a time for something

like a third party to arise because the

current two parties aren't able to

adequately give expression to the

political differences that have arisen

it's now

okay where is your evidence for that

happening where is the interest for the

third parties where is that happening

um so this is another thing you really

didn't address during the debate is that

you're making it seem like the third

party is the essential thing and not the

inability for the current two parties to

adequately address

but i feel like there's not a problem

the two parties right now do address i

think the vast majority of american

thought

where's your evidence for that

well if i try to think of like what is

some ideology that's not encapsulated by

either of the two parties can you give

me some solid examples

yeah i think i'm not i'm not saying

you're confusing like the political

gridlock right now for their not being

parties well actually yeah

american thought sure but the thing is

is that i'm actually not thinking of

this in terms of ideology i'm thinking

of this in terms of the relationship

between the material interests of the

various social and cultural formations

in the united states and the political

forms that are given representation to

them

so for example uh this is actually an

example of this

uh if you look at what's going on in new

york recently right i think it was a

week or two ago

you had demonstrations by people from

all across the political aisle trump

people black lives matter several

several others uh discontented democrats

that were all marching against

the vaccine mandates in new york

and

that's not specifically just because

they decided to agree but like an idea

is there a is there a one political

party right now you think that is

anti-vaccine mandate like

i i don't think so destiny is one of the

worst examples i want to simplify this

yeah i want to simplify this hold on

stop saying okay i just i have to be

clear because i'm not letting i just

don't want you to complain that i'm

trying to derail because it's going to

no i understand i understand but i'm

just trying to keep it clear when you

keep saying let me simplify this you're

not simplifying anything you're

switching to a different explanation

because what you just said before no no

i'm not thank you guys i'm trying to

explain why you can't say it's just

because of being anti-vaxxer vaccines so

if i'm a materialist i'm going to

attribute

materials when it comes to understanding

politics which i am i'm going to

attribute the reasons for why people are

um

uh protesting against vaccine mandates

not in terms of having a specific

anti-vaxx ideology but in terms of for

example a breakdown of the connection

between the let's say majority of people

and the institutions specifically the

state medical

uh

and it's just i guess you could just say

this general establishment like it's a

breakdown of trust between those two

things right and the reasons for that

breakdown can be

understood if you want to go down that

route i don't want to i don't want you

to accuse me of trying to uh yeah so

just to be super clear yeah you're

trying to establish here is it there's

some thought here that isn't captured by

one of the two political parties no it's

it's it's not so that's what i would

consider idealism it's not actually just

about thought it's about the material

interests of people it's not about

thoughts

okay you're expressing a material

interest that you don't think is

represented by either of the two

political parties yes

okay so what is your

example of that so it's not just the

anti-vaxx thing it's one step further

yeah it's it's an ability to make it's

an ability to give expression to the

american peoples and the american

working class i would say

their discontent with the current

political

uh establishment as well as all the

economic formations that are part of

that

last election cycle there were two

massive

anti-establishment candidates there was

one on the left bernie sanders and one

of the right donald trump how can i say

that this isn't represented in either

the main political parties well first of

all i wouldn't consider bernie sanders

an anti-establishment candidate in 2020

okay he absolutely was but okay but i do

agree that trump did more or less still

represent the anti-establishment

candidate but trump lost the election in

2020 so

as far as what the future of that that's

mega movement is concerned um i think

it's things are kind of up in the air

right now and i do think on the current

course of things there's going to be a

huge red wave in 2022 and trump will

probably be reelected in 2024 but

i don't think that can be avoided by

doubling down

with the democrats i don't think the

democrats have any chance of being able

to to stop that

um i i don't think any of us can say

what will happen in 2024. in 2022 it's

hard to say violence approval is low

right now so that seems to be the course

they're headed on but none of this is

evidence for the

requirement of a third party or that a

third world is going to wrap up let me

put it this way um do you think that

there's going to be a red wave in 2022

i don't know right now it looks like

there could be but it depends if the uh

supply bottleneck gets fixed and the

economy starts to pick up and cool off

what i'm trying to say is that whether

or not the small number of people who

are going i'm actually going to be able

to reach between now and then focus

their effort on trying to

build a third party

and participate in that is not going to

make a difference as far as whether

there's going to be a red wave is

concerned there will probably be a red

wave uh

most certainly no matter what so what do

you think of red wave is coming for what

reason

um i think that the biden administration

i think that in 2020 a lot of people

were on the fence about giving you know

whether trump should be removed and

giving biden a chance but i think now a

lot of people's

uh complete rejection of the democrats

in biden has just been com completely

cemented people what do you think that

rejection is based on

um i think it's based on the current

the kind of economic and

economic so assuming inflation gets

taken care of

um

and

you know everybody is able to buy the

[ __ ] they want and

and the economy's doing okay why would

we assume that there would still be a

big red wave well because the the source

of the economic crisis isn't just

because of one problem like inflation

you're looking at as global supply and

chain crisis you're looking at a

complete change in the global economic

system and uh i don't think we're

looking at a complete change we're just

seeing like a pretty historic shift in

demand right now that's caused i guess

like a big supply bottleneck that i mean

i mean it can be addressed like it's

happening who knows how long it'll take

but

um i i don't buy it i think even the

people uh the davos people i think even

they envisioned that you know i know

you're i don't know how what your stance

is on this whole great reset stuff and

whether it's a real thing or not but

there are already things that

people in power are envisioning for a

fundamental transformation of of the

economy what do you mean

um well it's it's well you you kind of

complained when i brought it up before

but it's vaguely called the fourth

industrial revolution it's the new set

of policies

and the new set of um

like what policy what do you mean like

what um specifically for example in

relation to the nature of work and how

people work right so with the gig

economy in the fourth industrial

revolution uh people are going to

increasingly there's going to be an

increasing like merger between people's

living spaces like smart cities and and

you know where people buy things from

and their workplaces where people it's

kind of like a return of factory towns

so we're seeing an integration of like

you know for example in the case of

amazon

uh campuses uh whole foods which amazon

also bought

um right but hasn't this been happening

for like over a decade like how long has

there been like an amazon google

facebook campus for their website

also do you really think it's gonna

carry over to like non-tech jobs to

every type of job or

um as far as the non well yes i do i do

i mean at least the service industry 100

percent yes as far as i think people

work at like mcdonald's or target are

going to be living at mcdonald's or

target

no um

they're not going to be living at

mcdonald's or target but mcdonald's are

probably going to be part of like a

smart city that might have some kind of

degree of private uh ownership we can

barely like zone for [ __ ] five-story

apartments how are we gonna be building

smart cities

well i think when the reason i'm

bringing this up is because even they

anticipate that all these changes have

to occur

to to overcome the

the like degree to which this crisis is

going to pose a threat to the current

order of things so that's their ambition

i don't think they're going to be

successful with the great reset or

whatever but they see this as like the

only thing that's going to save

like it's not something they believe

they can address just with oh we're just

going to curb inflation and everything

will go back to normal they don't even

believe there's going to be an ability

to go back to normal like how things

used to be

um

okay uh i i can't argue against this

right because this is just a completely

totally unfalsifiable claim so i don't

know what you're going to say but so

it's you're saying it's unfalsifiable

but i'm just trying to make the point

that even the people in power don't

believe that this is just the current

crisis can just easily be solved

um

in the way that you're saying it can and

you i don't know i mean we'll see i mean

it's a matter of whether or not we can

up our supply chains to meet the kind of

the unique demand that exists today but

i guess what do you think is the source

of the supply chain crisis right now

um from my understanding it's that there

was a because of the types of work that

wasn't able to happen over the

coronavirus pandemic and because of the

stimulus that's been given out to people

there is a unique shift from a demand

from services to a demand to goods

and when all of that money that was

split between services and goods before

starts going towards goods you end up

with these huge bottlenecks where we

weren't able to ship as much stuff

around the world as what we previously

um were able to to meet demand because

demand shifted so much so even if the

overall global demand is relatively the

same the allocation of that demand to

more physical goods has made it really

hard for the global supply chain to keep

up

okay so what you're basically saying is

and i'm trying to simplify what i heard

right is you're saying that there has

been a shift from

services the demand for services to the

demand for uh physical goods so instead

of people spending money for

service uh related goods i guess what

you mean for services yeah yeah they're

they're they're they're trying to

accumulate more physical goods right

yeah that's what people have been buying

yeah

so people have been buying more

but

more physical content yeah so what are

the services therefore going

um

uh i don't know i i i would have to

break it out i'm not sure uh maybe it's

like going out getting massages or maybe

it's like buying you know instead of

buying from restaurants maybe they're

buying more groceries instead of i don't

know stuff like that that'd be my guess

but i haven't seen a break out of like

all the services that people aren't

utilizing as much as before

yeah because i do where what is the

source of um your information on that

um this is like the main reason for the

current supply chain crisis is it the um

is it the federal reserve site where you

can see the um shifting oh wait i

actually saved this [ __ ] now hold on we

can see a shift in change from the

demands

from goods and services

are you ha still on discord yes did you

get that message

that i just said yeah yeah yeah i got it

wait did this even work

no that didn't

work oh [ __ ] is this opening things oh

my god it saves it locally hold on sorry

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view online

um i imagine you could probably go to

the uh um the fred side itself to like

pull images like this

but so like these this is like these are

the main talking points i've heard from

economists this comes from an article

that krugman's written but you can look

at the real personal consumption

expenditure for durable goods versus

services and then you can see that like

the services like dropped off incredibly

hard and durable goods spiked up

insanely hard so

yeah go ahead but it's kind of hard for

me to believe that this is the reason

for the supply chain crisis specifically

why

because

you also have to take into account when

it comes to the supply chain crisis um

that this is a this is a global uh this

is because of global supply chains and

also because of the shift in um

in work because of covet right people

weren't able to return to their jobs as

usual to produce physical goods

oh yeah but it's not a matter of just

producing the same physical goods as

before we can see that the demand is

like far greater than it used to be so

even if those same people had returned

there would still be a supply chain

shortage

um

yeah i mean uh expenditures on durable

goods i don't know if this would be

enough to cause that at a global level

though

why look it's almost like 40 higher 30

percent higher why would it not be

or maybe if there are other explanations

i mean i'd be interested to hear them

but

it looks like it's about 18 percent

higher as of july 2021

as of july 2021

um

if it was at 100 before and it's at like

118 now yeah sure

yeah i mean um

yeah but that's just for the united

states right

so i don't know if it's personal yeah

this is just for the us sure i mean it

might not be a worldwide trend maybe in

other countries they but i mean like

this would explain like uh the goods

inflation in the united states but i

mean if we look at this graph now i'm

tying in just stuff that i know in

general so this might be incorrect but

if we look at the graph we see that it

was way higher in january of 2021 and

those um that that demand has dropped

pretty sharply so as you said now it's

only 18 higher than where we might

expect it to be but if you can remember

um several months ago people were saying

[ __ ] like lumber is going to destroy us

it's at all-time highs we're never going

to recover and now the price of lumber

has has come down to the cost of lumber

has come down pretty significantly

here's the thing what i what i from what

i know about the supply chain crisis the

main issue has not been at the level of

like the final products but at things in

the supply chain you don't

uh that aren't like that are that go

into the making of products but also are

related to things that aren't really uh

so much about personal like basic like

tools you need to build things things

like that um things that go into goods

things that are needed for construction

things that are needed for

infrastructure those type of things

and also it's it also kind of begs the

question of

did demand go up because of the scarcity

that was already in place or was it the

reverse was it the demand first and then

because i don't think this really

measures

uh demand

well this is literally a direct measure

of demand what do you mean

because if there was an if there was a

scarcity of goods then people would just

be having to pay more for those goods

than they did before

well but that's what's happening right

now technically you can get anything you

want it's just going to cost you a lot

more right but that wouldn't address the

cause of the scarcity in the first place

well

sure but i mean like

if you have so you pulled the source me

on me so i'll pull that on you if you

think there's a better alternative

explanation then you can feel free to

shoot me something i'll read it over but

like every economist that i've heard

talk about this has talked about like

this uh pretty

concretely um

yeah i don't i don't know what else to

say

yeah anything else just like a

hypothetical i mean i don't know

um i'm looking for it right now

but i mean like you i mean you have to

understand that like if the world can

support shipping so many goods and

services that even if that were to

increase worldwide by 10

that's going to be like a huge strain

it's not like you can just ramp up that

level of delivery instantly right

because if you could ramp it up

instantly then there's a whole lot of

waste if it's not being utilized right

sorry uh can you repeat that

let's say that i'm delivering 100

bottles of milk a day in my truck let's

say that tomorrow i get asked to deliver

200 bottles of milk a day right if i was

able to accommodate that demand

instantly it probably shows that i'm

being very wasteful when i'm only

delivering 100 per day does that make

sense because if i had the capability to

do twice as much why am i paying for all

that extra capital just laying around

not being utilized so i think it's it's

fair to say that if there are these big

bumps in aggregate demand of goods

across the world 10 20 30 40 at times

and it probably makes sense that you

know suppliers aren't able to meet those

demands instantaneously it's going to

take a few months to get to that level

no no i know but

it's a matter of the chicken or the egg

right it's a matter of is the reason

people are spending more because they're

consuming more or is it because the

goods that they would typically consume

have just become

cost that just

sorry the prices for those have

increased

oh

um

well why would the prices just randomly

increase because of scarcity in in the

goods what does scarcity mean

um

like the goods that they want to

purchase are not being produced in

adequate quantities because of

disruptions in the chain of production

because of covert

why would that decrease so much the

consumption of services then um well the

degrees in the consumption of services

can easily be explained by the lockdowns

right and the long-term effective

lockdowns

okay but then aren't you kind of

answering your chicken and the egg thing

if there is indeed a decrease in the

consumption of services and people have

a bunch of money lying around

isn't that aren't all those dollars

going to chase the same number of goods

like i'm not saying you're wrong when

you say scarcity but i mean like

scarcity always exists always for

everything in the in the world right

except for

no for everything scarcity is like built

into everything right no i know but the

covet caused unique disruptions in the

chains of production

and like the ability to produce these

goods in the first place

okay um

all right i i don't i mean that's a cool

hypothesis i don't know what to say

if you want to give me something to read

or if you have a paper you publish i

could i can go over it but uh yeah i

don't know what to yeah i was looking

for one that's why i was asking you to

repeat yourself because i was okay

i'm just playing video games so yeah

yeah i mean um

but you know the main the main issue

here is that you talk also about

speaking of the decrease in the service

industry i think an even better case for

like if you're trying to say people have

more money to like spend on physical

goods but it's also because they're

getting checks to stay at home and

that's that actually wasn't all the

unemployment insurance is dropped off by

now right

yeah but at during the time in which

this was happening biden actually said

that this was deliberately because he

wanted to tighten the labor market

uh

he said that he was paying out he said

he was deliberately paying out

unemployment insurance to tighten the

labor market

yeah biden said that the reason that um

the reason is

deliberate and it's to give employers

employees more power in being able to

negotiate

wages to their employers but

unemployment insurance wears off

well i can find the exact quote from

biden if you want

sure i'd be interested in reading that

because that would be an unbelievably

unpopular quote for him to say as like

employers everywhere are trying to find

employees we're going to be like oh yeah

we're doing that on purpose like yeah

let me see fighting

is this in the summer

it's surprising you didn't hear about

this

okay biden says deliberate uh employee

negotiate labor wage unemployment search

okay is this it

buy the names to tilt the job market

toward workers this new york times

uh according to increasing in pursuit of

left centers here's biden okay this week

the white house is playing through this

an executor focus on competition policy

uh was one section says several

provisions aimed at increasing

competition in the labor market the

order will encourage the federal trade

commission to ban or limit non-compete

agreements with employers that are

increasingly used in recent use to

hamper workers ability to quit for a

better job

yeah that's getting rid of non-compete

agreements sure that's not related to

the unemployment insurance but

um

are you just linking me random stuff

no this is what i'm looking at right now

yeah so do you know what a non-compete

agreement is

yeah well that's one of the things that

was contained in it but there was a

general um well yeah but like so getting

rid of non-contact i'm specifically

referring to biden when he was

responding to the like the issues in the

job market like why are jobs so scarce

right now and biden responded by saying

that the reason was deliberate

non-competes

okay i don't know if i would ever say

that like they're deliberately trying to

sabotage the job market that seems like

he didn't say sabotage and also this

thing about non-competes that you're

talking about is only one it was only

one part of the uh

sorry there's a pay one okay hold on

apparently i have somebody that watches

your streaming chat i'm 99 sure that

this is the exact tweet that introvert

is thinking of that he showed in his

video and he was talking about this a

few months ago link it to him and see if

he thinks so here you go

set up workers competing with each other

for jobs that are scared to unemployed

to compete with each other to attract

work we want the companies to compete to

attract workers

yeah that was it

okay let me tell you something my sole

measure of economic success is how

families how working families are doing

whether they have jobs delivery dignity

this means we have to focus on wages

that we used to when it comes to the

economy we were building rising wages on

a bug very few that's exactly

we want to get something economists call

full employment instead of workers

competing with each other for jobs that

are scarce when employees come to each

other

um

to

attract work instead of work when

employees can oh employers you probably

misspoke we want the the companies to

compete to attract workers that kind of

competition in the market doesn't just

give workers more ability to earn higher

wages on the power to demand to be

treated with dignity respect and

workplace and uh full employment also

means after substitutes for workers

including blacksmithing

then just okay yeah so what about this

um specifically i'm focusing on the

sentence the rising wages aren't a bug

they're a feature

well yeah i mean of course any president

is going to want to have rising wages

but the reason for that is because

everyone could see the rising wages were

because people had an incentive to be

able to stay home

instead of um

they had more leverage than being able

to

because because of uh the so-called

biden checks as their popular refer

popularly referred to

uh people had more leverage in being

able to negotiate the kinds of wages

that they wanted

eric do you know where we stood on this

i know people went back and forth for a

little bit but my understanding was that

the final thing is that like

unemployment insurance didn't seem like

it

had had a big disparaging impact on

people seeking jobs i'll trust you eric

i don't feel like researching all this

again you can tell me if you remember

from this um

to be completely honest i didn't consult

like uh

much i don't remember i think i did but

i mean it's mainly just being able to

like talk to business owners and and

know what's going on like on the ground

is that yeah like throughout the year

they were having a really hard time

trying to find people to hire for work

like people were just

not incentivized to to find jobs like

before

um yeah but for a variety of reasons

republicans try to blame this on

unemployment insurance but my

understanding is that when you looked at

the states that were cutting

unemployment early and everything that

didn't really pan out it didn't seem

like the data supported that so is it is

it specifically the unemployment uh

insurance or is it the stimulus

because i think it's the one the

stimulus was just a one-time payment

right that was a one-time checks i don't

know how much that put people off

working the big thing the big stimulus

that the us gave out that was [ __ ]

huge was the boost in unemployment

insurance that's my understanding that

was like the huge ticket item

um weren't there multiple stimulus

packages

i believe there were two big stimulus

checks that went out was it one under

trump and one under biden i think

um

but the um

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uh the big stimulus because

but i think the big stimulus was um for

unemployment insurance was ui that was

like the huge

thing that that was helping yeah it

wasn't like a boosted it was like a 300

a week extra for unemployment insurance

it was huge that's my understanding for

the big uh boost was the um the checks

were just like a one-time thing that

went out right so there was a boost in

the unemployment insurance so

that so you don't think that

incentivized people to be able to like

have more of a say in what kind of jobs

they want to take up or at what price

they would want to take up like why is

it that wages were rising

throughout this period

um

there's a lot of weird

oh man i have another article on this so

my understanding is that i don't know

how up-to-date this information was but

during the pandemic the in the aggregate

meaning if you count every american

worker americans actually took home more

money and saved more money than they

have historically in a massive amount

but the reason why was because

middle-class workers or white-collar

workers we could say

were not only able to maintain the exact

same jobs they had before many of them

were given coronavirus bonuses and many

of them didn't have to actually go to

work they were able to work from home

so they saved money on transport they

weren't spending as much money eating

out on food and they were getting

bonuses still from working through the

coronavirus pandemic that these people

were like huge winners when it came to

the coronavirus pandemic period and even

though there were retail workers or

working class people that lost out in

the aggregate the gains made by

americans that had those middle class

jobs massively outperformed it so i

thought that was where like the the

rising like take-home pay and the

consumer consumption and everything was

coming from

right but there was also uh a massive

number of people quitting jobs unable to

take up jobs i mean it's obviously

related to the supply chain crisis i

mean there was a crisis our unemployment

is really low now though right our

unemployment is below five percent like

i think we're fine in terms of

employment

i mean labor force participation has

fallen but i mean i think that's always

going to happen so is this like a uh

this month thing like as of this month

or no unemployment's just been falling

everybody freaks out about unemployment

but our unemployment's always been like

pretty good but weren't they having

trouble finding like truckers to be able

to having trouble finding workers but

that's like a different like that's like

people arguing that we need more

immigrants basically to come into work

because we're not like we don't have

enough workers but they were paying

really well these they were like

increasing the the

it's obviously how the markets work

right if there's a high demand for

workers you increase the

wages and even then it wasn't

sufficient

um yeah i mean they're trying to

increase wages but i mean at some point

you're only going to have like

most industries in the united states run

on like pretty thin profit margins you

don't have like you can't just like

boost wages a fuckton like a lot of

these businesses could become

non-competitive so i mean we might be

seeing if you want to call this a great

reset we might be seeing some form of

like reorganization in terms of like

which businesses are viable post

coronavirus because of the labor force

participation right i don't necessarily

think it's just about which businesses

are viable i think there's been a

fundamental change in how people relate

to work in the first place like

um you know there is there was a lot of

talk of ubi in the past and it seemed

like an impossible dream but

it seems like

uh

that is almost inevitable at this point

we actually got a little bit of ubi

under biden because of how the child tax

credit works yeah

yeah but i think the basic point is that

um

but that's another example of a policy

that a third party might have adopted

that was co-opted by

a first policy the child tax credit is

not ubi

kind of

ubi is universal basic income right and

a basic income means if you're a citizen

of this country you get a basic income

as a default

yeah i mean like it's not universal but

the idea that you get a payment every

single month from the government for

something as simple as having a

dependent uh that's a that's a pretty

i don't i don't think that's i think

that's unprecedented in american history

like that is a huge first step towards

some form of ubi when you're getting

people getting checks every single month

from the government for some minimum

dollar amount it's not universal because

obviously not everybody has a dependent

but i mean it's a good style direction

so

would you anticipate that one year from

now specifically the biden's approval

rating is going to go up

like a lot

the thing is like here like here's two

potential paths maybe the supply chain

crisis doesn't actually um alleviate

because people are continuing to

purchase more and more goods and they

can't keep up and then inflation

continues to grow and then the entire

working class gets [ __ ] because now

things like gas or things that are in

the cpi are just unaffordable in that

case biden is completely crushed but

let's say in the next like six months

the supply chain continues to improve

people can afford goods and services we

got a [ __ ] ton of stimulus unemployment

is really low the economy is still like

pretty hot um then it's possible like

yeah the opinion ships and favorite

everybody like oh this is cool it's just

but it's hard to say i can't make those

predictions like a macro macro

international econ you know big brain

thing like people are still arguing over

like what the [ __ ] is even causing the

supply chain crisis um so i'm not going

to pretend to know that i know the

answer to when it's going to be over

okay so but you still fundamentally

believe that if we are facing a crisis

right now

then within the next two or three or i

don't know how many years it's going to

be solvable by like the current

two-party system by the current

establishment

um any crisis that we're facing now if

it's not solvable by the two-party

system i don't think a third party could

solve it i mean right so do you think

that there's no such thing as political

novelty in history like there's never

such a thing as where

the

kind of um

striving of the era is unable to be

given expression by the established

parties that something new is necessary

to be able to i mean novelty definitely

happens but as systems become larger and

systems becomes better at like

organizing and incorporating new

information and processing information

and then like turning that into things i

think that novelty becomes like

exponentially harder um if we compare it

to like

like

coming up with new strats in a video

game 20 years ago was pretty easy

because like the internet wasn't as

popular and not as many people played

the game and they were all new and bug

or whatever is one thing but nowadays

like day one any game releases day zero

there's massive wikis up you know the

chance of you inventing a new strategy

almost nothing i think the side works

when it comes to playing

uh true i mean there's authors i

actually recommend him uh i've seen

nicholas tal of his book the black swan

and he shows he proves how the more

complex systems become

the bigger they become so to speak like

the banks were too big to fail

the harder they fall the the more

intensified the points of their blind

spots are where they actually

like

it never becomes so complex that novelty

becomes impossible there is always a

blind spot i'm not saying impossible and

it's pop but i'm saying the larger these

sisters become the more confident they

are it seems like they're good at

incorporating new stuff but i mean hey

we'll see but i don't see any right now

there's no reason to think why what

you're saying will happen um other than

like well it could

are you familiar with uh black swan it's

actually not like a fringe book it's

like you know i know the guy

at least at the very least on twitter

he's pretty crazy i'm sure his book is

fine you're talking about the

mathematician guy right yeah

yeah i mean you know maybe

uh i mean i guess we'll see

so

basically the the issue is that systems

um

especially of the nature of the ones

that we're talking about aren't able to

become what he calls anti-fragile

they're not actually able to learn from

these kinds of mistakes

uh and integrate them in a local way

they have to like

always make it so that um

when there's one vulnerability right one

major vulnerability the whole thing

tumbles and collapses

um yeah that doesn't seem like it can

happen with our current system it seems

like an insurance system it doesn't seem

so

okay um like our current system is

unimaginably resilient it's one of the

biggest i guess benefits of capitalism

is that it seems pretty resilient our

political systems seem pretty resilient

as well so wait wait buy our current

system what are you referring to

um we could talk about like the our

global infrastructure in terms of like

how our governments relate to one

another or we could talk about like our

national infrastructures how our economy

functions or how our government or

monetary policy works i mean anything

like our just our system in general i

mean we talk about more specific parts

you want to dig into it but so you think

that's you think that's like

unbelievably resilient and there's no

possibility that it could ever collapse

i didn't say no possibility well there's

no like there's no uh likely possibility

it doesn't seem to be the case yeah

correct why is that why do you think

that

um i don't know we keep going through

these things that are like unprecedented

historical things for example

uh the 2007 the mortgage-backed security

crisis i thought you were gonna mention

that and i'm glad do you know that we

actually haven't really recovered from

that crisis and that quantitative easing

has been the sole source

of economic growth since then meaning

there's no organic profit based

traditional capitalist economics that's

completely not true i don't know what

else to say yeah so what so you and

you're not aware of the fact that it is

actually uh

government issued credit and stimulus

into the economy

that has been the source of all of the

economic growth we've seen in the united

states and europe since the 2000s well

let's just sure i mean let's let's think

about that let's pull away from the mmt

idea and let's just think like

reasonably yeah do you really truly

believe that over the past 15 years we

haven't had a a surge of new businesses

new products and services um better

technologies

more construction you really don't think

any of that has happened it's all more

or less the same you really don't think

any real growth has happened there well

first of all there has been no economic

growth and new businesses and stuff but

that begins and that's a result of the

bank issued credit it's not because of a

top it's not because of a bottom-up form

of economic growth as in traditional

capitalism which is based on profit

and many of these large businesses these

corporations and so on operate at a loss

in terms of profitability for a long

time right what does it mean to operate

at a loss though it means they're either

not making a profit or they're even

losing money yeah but well they're not

losing money they're just not making a

profit really because they're wasn't

uber operating at a loss for a long time

it's

that the word loss there is doing a lot

of work to say loss

to layman almost sounds like the money

is disappearing right are you aware of

the actual growth of the real economy in

the past 15 years compared to the growth

on the stock market okay you keep

jumping around okay so just to be clear

right a lot that's what you were

referring to

a loss on a business sheet could

oftentimes refer to a big investment

that's made in a business so for

instance amazon had losses as opposed to

profits for a long time but it's not

like they were just burning through

piles of cash right these were capital

investments they were making in their

business you know if you continue to

function at a loss but your revenues are

growing and growing and growing i mean

it's not necessarily a bad thing and

it's not like there's no real growth

there that just doesn't make any sense

what i'm trying to say is that

profitability is not the source of the

growth i'm not saying that there's no

growth at all i'm just saying

profitability is not the source

i don't know what profitability i don't

know what profitability yeah so in

capitalism

um the engine of economic growth

is ultimately based on

earning more money than you did before

and using that money to invest in your

capital in order to expand and that's

how the cycle repeats sure but you don't

need profit and it's and

um profitability is determined or the

ability to pursue profits determined by

competition in the market right other

people are doing things that you have to

adapt to and you have to squeeze out

more money from the economy than the

other person by lowering prices or

increasing uh the efficiency of capital

and so on and so on so that's actually

not what the source of economic growth

has been since 2008

what do you mean when you say economic

growth what does that term mean to you

or what do you

um it means the ability for the

distribution of goods and services to be

so you don't think there's been a real

growth

in the overall amount of goods and

services produced in the country there

has but not because of profit

i don't know what because of profit

means that's like it means the

government

it means the government injected credit

in the in the economy and that this

credit was distributed among america's

corporations by the banks and that it's

the recycling of this money that has

been the source of uh keeping the

economy in operation

okay

um

i mean like that's a

that's a cool idea i i don't really know

you're saying this system is incredibly

resilient um yeah do you think that the

current inflation that we're

experiencing as far as the dollar is

concerned

is just like a temporary thing that the

currency as we know it is going to

continue to operate as we know it

i don't know what i don't even know if

the dollar is experiencing inflation at

the moment i don't know if that's true

or not okay so there's no currency

crisis right now

is there i has is there one

um you tell me i mean uh you don't think

that there's a push toward moving toward

digital currency and

uh blockchain absolutely

there's no push towards digital currency

now

okay and is there a time span that you

want to like hedge your bets on that for

is like a year or two or three

yeah what do you mean you're like you

want to bet on whether or not we change

to a digital currency in a year or two

or three

i'll but yeah if there's a shift to

digital currencies within the time span

of three years

yeah what do you what do you want to bet

what odds do you want well i just want

to know like if that's what you believe

yeah i know that i would take big so if

if there's no currency crisis uh are you

aware of what the inflation rate is

right now

in the u.s it's 6.2

i think when's the last time it was this

high this might be historically high

yeah do you know when the last time it

was

i

i don't know it was 1990.

okay

yeah so do you know so you're saying

you're speaking of the resilience of the

system um are you aware of what sustains

the value of the dollar

the

full faith and credit of the us

government to pay back treasury bonds

what do you mean

okay but in real life what is it

probably the strength of the us economy

no it's not it's neither of those things

it's actually the military projection of

the united states it's actually

it's actually the denomination of

petroleum in u.s dollars

since the 1970s because we switched from

the gold standard to that right

um

if you know the history of monetary

policy in the u.s

so are you aware of what's going on

as far as wait a minute okay hold on

okay this is boring to me now do you

want to talk about anything else

well i'm just trying to walk you through

and when you're you're just you're doing

the like are you aware of and then

you're feeding me like every single

[ __ ] conspiracy theory i've ever

heard of myself

i can't engage with anything wait wait

so if you if you want if you want if you

want to make a prediction based on your

conspiracy theories i'll bet you wait

wait is that that's like you're going to

argue that like oh qe is the reason why

the entire economy is growing for 15

years like it's fundamentally is the

reason so yeah so there's like if

there's a bet that you want to place on

a future outcome i'll bet you on the

digital currency wait wait i just want

to know if you think the petrol dollars

are conspiracy or not

in terms of like is is this the only

thing keeping the united states afloat

in our global economy or whatever

the dollar is that's where the value of

the dollar comes from

i i i would the implication be that like

if we switch to green energy or some

[ __ ] that like the pedro dollar is gonna

cause the u.s currency to collapse or

something like that yeah yeah no i don't

think so

but i mean if you want to put money on

it or whatever we can but yeah your time

frames here so i i i just don't think

you're aware of the history of um us

monetary policy which was very much

planned and deliberate and the post-war

this is not planned and deliberate well

it's not it's

not a conspiracy that planners of the

post-war global economy

um deliberately set up the world economy

and specifically the united states to be

a recycler

or specifically they first initially

wanted the surpluses of the united

states production to be invested in

other countries and then they reversed

their policy so that the u.s would

become a vacuum of global surpluses

through wall street and that this would

keep the dollar's value afloat that this

would keep the world economic order um

yeah i remember it was called like the

philosopher's legacy right the patriots

didn't they said no you can actually

read about it in the book the global

minotaur by janus birofocus the

economist

but

the the point listen listen

i super don't care if you want to make a

bet or something about related to any of

these things you believe in that's fine

but i don't i don't feel like just

listening all right but but you're

saying you're saying things like how you

believe in the resilience of the system

but you don't even know what this system

is

okay then then bet me on an outcome that

i wouldn't understand if you okay uh

within five years

we are going to see a fundamental

uh change of this collapse of this

system and change of the system what

does that mean what's a fundamental

change

um we are going to see a complete change

in the nature of the currency in the us

from uh the current fiat money purely

credit based in the petrodollar to maybe

some kind of digital blockchain currency

okay i'll bet you like a hundred dollars

on that or a thousand if you want or

however much you want to posture i guess

no it's not so much

how about this i will give you if you're

right a thousand but if i'm right all i

want you to do is admit to everyone that

you don't know anything about how

economies work or the nature of the

current global economy that's enough for

me for you to just be able to admit that

yeah sure okay five years from now if

you're still streaming i'll come for my

100 bucks okay or whatever

yeah

so

so no actually hold on i don't 100 yeah

i want you to admit then that okay my

[ __ ] was uh well i already know what's

gonna happen is if even if you are still

streaming in five years i'm gonna come

back and be like oh well what you don't

understand is there was a global shift

you just don't know about it and it's

like in some secret place that like the

public doesn't know but like it actually

how like that's all you're gonna say no

it's it's going to be pretty like

obvious to everyone

okay yeah we'll see in five years i

guess

yeah

so it's so is it on this basis that you

say i don't know anything about current

events initially no it's just like when

i debate like when i debate

conservatives they've got like all these

on the ground issues that they want to

argue about we're debating government

policy we're debating current events

like this is what's going on if i'm

debating like lauren southern or rob nor

but when i talk to people like you it's

like literally like [ __ ] jewish

conspiracy theory [ __ ] now like it feels

like i'm talking to the nazis of like

five years ago what like it's just all

like off the wall like hold on check out

this [ __ ] book by blah blah blah and

check out this like the central the

patreon dollar is like okay like there's

nothing for him to even talk about okay

so so first of all it's interesting that

you're comparing the uncontroversial

recognition of the petrodollar

significance to anti-semitic conspiracy

theories but second of all um i think

what you're really trying to say is that

i don't actually thrive on discourse

based in media sound bites that actually

don't necessarily reflect

a uh adequate understanding of our

reality uh concretely it's just media

sound bites how do you how are you so

confident that the things that um the

media provokes interest in in terms of

headlines

and uh clickbait titles and whatever

like how do you know that actually

reflects what's really going on on the

ground

um you know what i don't so i guess

we'll see you really don't how much

let me ask you questions

i want to ask you another question how

much time did you spend debating about

kyle rittenhouse

uh quite a bit so in terms of what's

actually happening in reality like the

changes under in our system and our

political system

and in our real economy how important do

you think the kyle rittenhouse trial was

relative to that

i mean elections are won and lost

sometimes on cultural issues the next

big one might be over abortion

right but these are all things that

you're only aware of because the media

is telling you that they're important

yeah but the media is also a reflection

of what the people want to see as well

do you think the media would be showing

us some people weren't clamoring to see

it well people are also interested in

kim kardashian it doesn't mean it's an

accurate reflection of the reality they

live in

okay sure but

okay

all right well hey listen i look before

it in five years of being wrong we'll

have our digital users no i'm i'm just

so but you said that i don't live in

this world and that i don't know

anything about the current reality

because i'm just saying that like at the

end of this conversation like i have

there's i'm taking nothing from this

there's not anything from you to read

into there's no future research well i

know because

you basically thrive off of what's like

media clickbait titles and viral stories

everything that isn't part of your

conspiracy world is clickbait that's

right

nobody actually cares about anything

none of these issues actually matter

only what do you care about

so this is why every left just fails to

gain any real political support anywhere

too yeah i think it resembles and like

the failure of like any hypothetical

third party like oh guys like you don't

who the [ __ ] cares about dumb [ __ ] like

minimum wage or like social issues like

what's really important is the pedro

dollar and how qe is the whole reason

why everything is like nobody cares yeah

and and it's like there's no third party

because cnn isn't talking about it so

how could it possibly be a thing that

should be i mean once you've overthrown

cnn okay well why should we talk about

things that cnn isn't talking about

you're right dude

okay and like you know unless you see it

as the twitter trending uh thing the

news trending on twitter like it doesn't

exist right

right so i actually want to clarify

something though because you said that

oh this is all i left this i don't

actually think there's no significance

to the things that are popular and viral

news stories i think that has to do with

the broader culture and ideological war

that's going on i'm just saying that's

not exactly the same that's not

identical with an actual systemic and

structural analysis of how our economy

works and its history how these

structures uh are held together i just

am insisting on the fact that there's a

difference between what the media says

uh in terms of like

what it gives importance to in the all

these headlines and what's actually

going on in reality i'm not saying those

things have no importance and no

significance

i'm just insisting on uh that division

at least why is that why is that an

anti-semitic conspiracy theory though

i never said it was an anti-semitic

conspiracy theory well why why are you

putting why are you um putting me in

in in the same category as anti-semitic

conspiracy theorists when i talk about

it because it's all like unverifiable

unquantifiable [ __ ] that relies on

you you think the petrodollar is

unverifiable and unquantifiable if you

want to send me some [ __ ] research

later on some [ __ ] you're talking about

then feel free to knock it out but if

you're not i actually watch this [ __ ]

book

i'm good can you please uh have a

conversation with a guy called kantbot

he actually does want to talk to you

and

i want to see if you can um

you can hold your own in a conversation

about the history of us

economic policy and the petrodollar and

so on and so on sounds fascinating okay

would you be willing to talk to him

uh probably not but you know maybe we'll

see how bored i am

right but

are you sure like you're it kind of

seems like you're kind of scared

oh my god you [ __ ] [ __ ] you called me

out so hard you got me it was actually

just because i'm really afraid of the

guy um well now that you've called my

you impugned my honor

um yeah man send me his contact details

i'll definitely get back to him okay i

wouldn't want to be seen as like scared

of an internet debate right

well i mean i don't know it's just like

there are people who spent like spend

their lives researching this and

documenting this and yeah there are

people who spent their lives researching

phrenology i don't know what the [ __ ]

i'm supposed to make of that but okay

well i'm just saying like if you want

way more details about this kind of

stuff i would recommend you to i could

give you them myself but maybe i don't

want more details about i don't care if

you want to give me people that are

making accurate predictions

hold on but what i'm trying to say is

you said it's unverifiable and i'm

giving you a guy who could give you like

citations footnotes sources like i want

citations i want predictions give me

give me an accurate prediction based on

your model that's that's how we judge

the worthiness of anybody what have you

correctly predicted then in the past i'm

not an economist i just read other

people's [ __ ] i don't i'm not here to

predict what it is like if you're going

to say like what have i predicted okay

sure i think

most of the mainstream things that have

happened i feel like i've been like

pretty decent how much of those

economists predicted 2008

i i don't know i'd have to go back and

look at it at all

so how

how much of those economists that you

endow authority to have correctly

predicted

um okay you you know what you're right i

totally believe in whatever the guy is

the combat guy okay

wait but oh i predicted the

infrastructure bill passing we had our

debate remember and you said it no there

wasn't there wasn't a controversy about

whether that bill would pass there was a

controversy about how much of it would

pass and it was a slim down bill from

1.5 to what 1.3 or 1.2

so gotcha yeah it wasn't the 1.5

trillion dollar infrastructure bill that

you said it would be

but

anyway the yeah the corporate welfare

infrastructure bill i don't know why

you're allotting that as some kind of uh

achievement

okay

but it was the largest infrastructure

bill in u.s history but i i mean not

good enough for you i guess huh i'm sure

a third

again given the state of infrastructure

united states

holding that infrastructure bill as some

kind of accomplishment

given the absolute neglect of usa like

that's a given governments

um

giving their infrastructure uh support

is not like some breakthrough of

politics

wow okay

yeah

and by the way there was no debate about

whether it was going to be passed um

but i'm sure the i'm sure this spending

is going to curb the inflation that you

said they're going to get it under

control

so do you think the inflation can remain

like this for another year

forever i think it's going to get worse

i actually think it's going to get worse

would you want to what do you think

about that

um worse before it gets better i'm not

sure i'm pretty sure it'll get better

but i don't know it might get a little

bit worse personally when okay since

we're talking about predictions when do

you think it's going to get better when

is it going to start getting better

i mean in some cases it has already

overall um i mean i would i would expect

it to within a year i would think but i

mean like there are things that could

change that say some more stimulus goes

out or something which i don't i don't

think would happen

or some big spending is spread on by the

stimulus bill which causes another drive

of demand of certain goods i'm not gonna

say i'm pretend like i'm gonna

accurately predict but i would feel like

well but hold on you have pegged the

entire

uh like

ability to be an

authoritative uh thinker or to be clear

you ain't not an authoritative thinker

but you have like what economists you've

decided that all the entire value of

what someone says should be judged on

the basis of how accurate their

predictions can be you're not even

willing to commit to any predictions at

all

um well because i'm i haven't researched

enough on this particular question to

give you what i feel as a competitor but

you seem

but you seem confident in saying things

like even though you haven't researched

important details of it that our system

is so fundamentally resilient

because i think historically our system

has been incredibly resilient yes are

you

what what are you basing that off of the

fact that we've had two major political

parties for over a hundred years is the

fact that we maintain like so

historically

monetary policy is kept inflation and

the job market's relatively stable for

like 80 or 100 years like i don't know

what i mean to say

wait hold on

what you're saying that when even if we

were to assume that

the two-party system

and this is wrong that it's not it's

been the same form of that two-party

system in the past hundred years but you

actually think in terms of scale if

there's a precedent of 100 years that

means like it's it's completely unlikely

that it can have a huge change can

happen at five like a hundred years in

the history of polities and states is

absolutely nothing

i disagree i think that time is

accelerated quite a bit today compared

to what it was a thousand years ago like

whole like trends can rise and fall in

the course of like a couple years um i i

think that our scale of time today is

greatly accelerated compared to what it

used to be just because as much as the

scale of time accelerates it also slows

down in other ways so okay yeah

i mean

it may app for example the flux of

information has accelerated and the

ability for people to consume

information and consume culture and

things like that has accelerated but in

terms of the scale at which like

the mode of production transformed it's

a word you don't like it really hasn't

uh accelerated all that much

but

the question i have to ask you is

you think our two-party system has

stayed the same for a hundred years

um i mean we've had these two political

parties for a hundred years i mean their

shifts and um ideas have changed we've

we've also had the u.s constitution

since the founding of the republic that

doesn't mean

that doesn't mean that uh the

constitution is this resilient document

i think the conversation is incredibly

resilient i think we have the oldest

active constitution in the world

but what the constitution represents has

not been the same in any given two

decades right so i don't know what you

mean we have like if you if you have a

very vague document for example i'm not

this is an extreme example i'm not

saying this is specifically the

constitution but let's say you write on

a piece of paper i believe that all

people should be happy

and you say well i've had this piece of

paper for 500 years well because it's

vague it doesn't actually address the

specific thing our constitution is vague

of course it's very vague

wait you don't think our constitution's

vague that's

compared to the civil codes of the

napoleonic code that other countries

adopted

yeah probably because we have a it's a

government of enumerated powers right so

all that [ __ ] is left to the states

that's like how our government is set up

right i just i'm really aghast that you

would question the idea that the

constitution is is vague of course i

just don't know how that's a point

against the constitution or what you

mean by violence appropriately right

when you when we are talking about the

resilience of institutions

you have to refer to the institution in

its material reality not vague documents

that encompass various different

material realities histories and

institutions so for example i'll make

this simple for you the republican party

and the democratic party have existed

for over a hundred years well over a

hundred years but who the democrat like

what for example the democratic party

was made of the institution that is the

democratic party what it represented who

it represented how the political machine

worked and how it operated how it got

votes all of these things have just

fundamentally changed even as far as a

few decades ago is concerned so the idea

that like oh we've still had the

democratic and republic republican party

yeah but what those parties are at their

most fundamental level have changed

so much that they're they've only kept

the name

okay

that's that's that is an example of

resiliency but i don't know so keeping

the name is resiliency but nothing else

uh yeah

why why because it hasn't required a

complete collapse and reorganization of

the system to make something wait but

there has been a collapse in

reorganization of those parties across

the past hundred years several times

right it's just that they've kept the

name

gotcha all right

so i don't know what you're talking i

don't actually know what you're talking

about i don't none of us none of us know

anything okay or except for you and to

leave or whatever that guy the

mathematician dude okay i love everybody

all right

okay so i i just

i'm still not uh persuaded and i don't

think my audience

i can say is as as far as the original

claim the clip i was sent of you saying

that i don't know anything about current

events or i don't know anything about

the world i think we've been over enough

to say that you really don't know all

that much about the world right i think

that's true yes so uh

make sure you steer clear of those

anti-semitic petrodollar conspiracies

because

those are going viral and it's really

dangerous on the internet and

i want you to make sure you stay on cnn

keep it keep at it with the new york

times the atlantic and so on and uh just

make sure you filter your information

correctly and you don't get trapped in

these anti-semitic webs of

disinformation like for example um the

existence of the us dollars the world's

reserve currency after world war ii

because that's a really big anti-semitic

conspiracy theory

that you know

gotcha yeah well make sure you save a

hundred bucks so that in five years i

can collect okay oh yeah i'll be waiting

those five years by the way

okay i'll see you then okay

all right i left

okay

thank you jan i appreciate you

thank you so much jan arm

how many times have i beat destiny in a

debate dude it's like nothing

how many times have i [ __ ]

defeated him in a debate it's like

it's almost embarrassing you know

like how is it so easy

thank you reaper appreciate you

thank you so much reaper so um

the so destiny's entire stick here

destiny's entire stick

is basically right what he's basically

saying is

if you don't only focus on what the news

headlines are saying that means you're

not living in this reality

thank you good office if you're not if

you're not specifically focusing on what

all the dumbasses on twitter are getting

whipped up in a fervor about that means

you don't know anything about this world

dude the real truth of this world is

what's not talked about by the [ __ ]

media and by twitter and [ __ ]

like everybody knows that you know

it's so [ __ ] stupid dude

so [ __ ] dumb

yeah and anything outside cnn is bro

okay you know what

you know when destiny completely lost

the ball when he said

that the petrol dollar is an

anti-semitic conspiracy theory

that's unbelievable

that's unbelievable

that was the highlight of the night dude

that was the highlight of the night

oh what up zerka

yo hello

yo

yo bro

yeah

i just woke up i just saw the last bit

of that did he just say the democratic

party hasn't changed

i've seen him argue that it has

yeah i mean bro he's no you should watch

the whole thing because he said a lot of

crazy [ __ ] dude he said the petro dollar

is an anti-semitic theory

what the [ __ ]

how did how did this happen

he said he also said the system is is uh

unimaginably resilient and that the

current two-party system is going to

survive

he said he said that uh the current

political system lasted a hundred years

it's so resil it's so resilient that

trump supporters are making their own

[ __ ] state and they raided the

capitol

bruh look

get this get this this is my favorite

part he said

this dude said

that

the the reason why the job market was

tight and people weren't going to work

wasn't because of biden's checks

wait how did this come about though how

did you guys get on a call somebody sent

me a clip

of i was talking about other [ __ ]

somebody sent me a clip

saying um destiny's talking [ __ ] about

you and i saw the clip and destiny was

like yeah the thing about infrared is

that he doesn't know anything about the

real world or some [ __ ] like that

so i was like what the [ __ ]

and then i reacted to it and then he

reacted to me and then he was like okay

tell infrared to come in the call

and then i was like okay i'll come on

the call so i went into his call

and then i was like so why are you

saying that and then we went we

basically went through it and i had to

explain to him that um

like the world is actually changing and

there's a great reason i talked about

the great reset and [ __ ] he's like oh no

there's no great reset biden's gonna get

the inflation under control and i was

like i was like destiny who do you

think's gonna win in 2022 you think

there's going to be a red wave and he's

like no i think biden's going to get the

inflation under control in the supply

chain crisis

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he's like a status quo junkie but what's

weird is how can he say there's no great

reset there's like prime ministers

not just trudeau everyone says

it's a great i tried to tell him and i

was like dude

he's going with the it's a conspiracy

theory [ __ ] yeah yeah i was like dude

even even biden and all those people in

power

believe that there has to be a great

reset even they see that you can't go

back to normal and he was like no we're

just going to go back to normal and

things are going to be as they always

have and i was like what

you're so naive

yeah it's crazy cold

and he's like we'll make a prediction

and he's like okay how long do you need

he's like oh two or three years or

something and it's like so in two or

three years i said all you have to do is

admit to your audience that you don't

know anything about the real world

if i'm right

well no he's just gonna play the card of

all the severity isn't

what you predicted so if it's not as

extreme as houses ideas then oh

oh cows was wrong he's just going to do

that

well

because the world the world's not on

fire bro so you're wrong that's what

he's going to do to you

dude i still cannot believe that this

dude said the petrol dollars and

anti-semitic conspiracy theory i just i

i don't even get i don't even get that

like what do you mean i was like dude

the petroleum

i don't wait can you explain what he

means with him he said like he was like

he was like will you talk about like uh

conspiracy theories like the petro

dollar

and he's like and then he was like it's

just like those nazis talking about

anti-semitic [ __ ] i'm like dude the

petro dollar is not a conspiracy theory

the us made a deal with saudi aramco

saudi arabia that they have to

denominate their dollars in they have to

denominate their oil in dollars

so how is that a conspiracy

yeah i'll bet you think if you tied him

up to a lie detector test he doesn't

even believe that

that that it's anti-semitic he doesn't

even believe that it's just a [ __ ] he

was trying to say he was trying to say

it's in the same league as that

oh my god and i'm like bro i'm talk i'm

telling you [ __ ] that like

yeah the insta the establishment

academics are saying i'm telling you

[ __ ] that they're saying

you know i'm not telling you

to me that's hilarious the pictures are

one but i only caught the last bit of it

and i was so shocked that i'm like

first of all the constitution is vague

that's what i said too i was like it's

vegas

yeah but the whole uh

the the the parties are resilient

in name yeah

yeah that's what i said i was like

i was like so and i was like so just

because they kept the name that means

the result

people even argue that the party

switched and blah blah blah they did

yeah bro yeah it changed they changed

[ __ ] but no no i'm saying i'm saying

these libs on this corner they argue

destiny has argued that the party

switched

what the [ __ ] is he talking about the

vote everything [ __ ] has changed since

obama what the [ __ ]

yeah

it's [ __ ] stupid dude but

yeah all of this [ __ ] was about the

third party [ __ ] like he's like oh the

third party argument's really dumb and i

was like

yeah brother

yes

i mean he's like the third party hasn't

existed and it's like well

who cares if it hasn't existed the time

is

the point is it's in the shadows yeah

yeah exactly yeah

and the third party will either come as

hyper nationalistic or communist

yeah yeah

yeah i mean bro i don't

i don't even know what to [ __ ] say

man it's this dude i don't even know why

i was clearly broke bro clearly you're

an anti-semite because you're not for us

foreign policy bombing little children

in the middle east

yeah bro dude i wasn't even talking

about him at all that's the crazy thing

i started the stream and i was like i

was going on a rant about something

entirely different had nothing to do

with any of that

[ __ ] staying in taliban they're pro

what

they're pro staying in taliban dude yeah

oh yeah

they're very strange people in that

corner of the web man they're like bro

why the [ __ ] did we leave taliban why

the [ __ ] did we leave afghanistan

it's [ __ ] hilarious

yeah that shit's

bro that's [ __ ] crazy

it's like it's like it makes me feel

like i'm the crazy one because like this

dude's got what 2.5 k viewers

and i sound like i'm crazy right now

just saying basic [ __ ] and i'm just

asking questions like oh so uh do you

believe that the current monetary system

is going to be in place and the inf like

the u.s dollar is going to survive even

though the pro the price of oil is

changing also he's like oh yeah i'm just

like shocked i'm like

for me

it

2000 people

for me what shocks me more is not only

is it an economic collapse but it's look

how much debt students are in you think

something's not going to happen with

this country

no apparently i just dude i just asked

him questions

he just said you know what's funny

how is the great recent and conspiracy

theory when it the the words great

reason came

from politicians it didn't come from the

web

i don't know dude i have no [ __ ] idea

like they keep saying the word great

reset you know conspiracy means like we

assumed

but uh this one came straight from like

the talk so or or

does he think that then the fourth

industrial revolution is the [ __ ]

conspiracy

bro

bro they'll be look at what class says

bro they'll be car

sharing right

you know what car sharing is

yeah yeah it means little steve will be

in a minivan with other little kids i

tried to tell him about like smart

cities and how work is going to change

and how everything's going to change and

he's like no no everything's going to be

the same

you know i i want his copium to be real

yeah

no i'm just shocked i'm like how can

anyone believe this

yeah

here's what our years are gonna get is

like

sometimes uh a lib can just say

you can drop facts on them you'll be

like no no look at this book it's called

the

i have this book i ordered recently it's

called the fourth

uh industrial revolution

you can send him that book and he'll say

no bro that's a conspiracy

a few books and he said they're all

conspiracies and

they're not uh they're not i tried to

show i tried to explain to them how the

us economy works

and how it's like all after world war

two it's about the being of the reserve

currency and the

oh no the only boy

one thing i thought

the only book steven reads is the

official 9 11 commission report dude one

of the things i told him was uh

i told him about how uh

since 2008 all economic growth has been

based on bank issued government printed

dollar credit and not capitalist profit

that's fact yeah he thought that was

like a crazy thing to say i was like

yeah it's not based on capitalist

competition or profit since 2008 it's

based on quantitative easing and

government issues any moderate economic

uh

economist uh believes in that too why is

that a conspiracy

well i don't know that's he's just not

knowledgeable he's not knowledgeable

about the real world he's only

knowledgeable about the headlines

no i don't believe that i believe he is

knowledgeable he refuses that

dude i don't i don't know dude i don't

know i don't know it's like no dude he

dude

liberals are dumb steven's not dumb he

plays dumb

you know

you think he [ __ ] actually thinks the

great reason is a [ __ ] conspiracy get

the [ __ ] out of here bro dude i don't

know what i don't know what

i don't know bro no bro he he trusts me

when i say

when he goes to bed

he assumes that uh a lot of change is

coming with enormous speed like klaus

klaus said

yeah def i mean he's gotta do it there's

no there's i refuse to believe somebody

could be this [ __ ] stupid

be real yeah he he's not dumb he's not

though he's he can't be this

non-knowledgeable dude you know you

can't you got to have some knowledge of

how no his community is dumb as [ __ ] i'm

not gonna lie

they're very stupid they think bro they

thought that epstein

mainstream articles were um

conspiracies i'm like you know what's

the [ __ ] matrix

is it a conspiracy that the kyle

rittenhouse trial was filmed by every

media 24-hour coverage but the gizlane

maxwell trial is given no coverage at

all anywhere and they're not filming it

or anything bro

clearly that's clearly you're just a

conspiracy theory

there's no camera

the fact that you know who jizz lane is

proves proves that the media is not

hiding her from you

bro it's it's i i can't i can't believe

it it's like

with the kyle rittenhouse 24 hour seven

day a week coverage for that forever the

gizlane trial nothing

you know what you know what's funny is

uh

there was week there was a month before

the fc stuff where i said politicians

traffic children

and everyone on twitch called me a

conspiracy [ __ ]

and i'm like dude these articles are in

australia they're in berlin they're in

every [ __ ] newspaper and they're like

yo you're just a conspiracy theorist

and then when it leaked bro then it's

all like what the [ __ ] and then all of a

sudden the leftists became conspiracy

theorists i swear to god sit in a room

filled with libs and say tr uh right now

say uh politicians traffic children

they'll be one that lasts hysterically

and then when you mention the epstein's

stuff you'll be like oh yeah but that's

one guy

they're so [ __ ] weird bro they're so

[ __ ] weird

and yo bro if you read the list of

epstein island democrats bro they'll

always point to the one republican it's

[ __ ] weird

oh my god yeah bro yeah [ __ ]

that no one's gonna talk about bill

clinton being on the [ __ ] plane

yeah it wasn't 19 times that's but

that's a conspiracy bro

yeah apparently that's just like yeah

it's all he just

he just like the island

dude

yeah i don't know dude i'm just waiting

i'm just waiting to be vindicated

because

any any fi

i said two years from now probably one

year from now dude

i can't believe i can talk to someone

and ask is are the republicans gonna

clean house in 2022 and they say uh

probably not

baby

like you live in canada but you know

enough about what's going on in the u.s

to know

the republicans are winning 2022 right

well i'm be honest okay there'll be a

resistance but winning republicans

beating social media tech giants like

this hell no i can't see them winning

but will there be a resistance from the

shadows of everyone who's banned off

social media yeah 100

bruh

listen

there was a there was a election in

virginia

recently and elsewhere

republicans cleaned house with the

[ __ ] democrats

i know bro bro

mute the stream i got something to tell

you oh go on i'm a muted

yeah bro it's like a lot of people think

that you know this is this is how they

think right they think oh i go on

twitter and i go on uh

twitch and i go on youtube and i don't

see these people anymore so they don't

exist no more and i'm like

there's a whole shadow internet that you

don't know about

yeah

like yeah

you know it's hilarious because it's not

even a shadow internet there's shadow

opinions of people on the internet that

don't give their real opinion yeah

yeah so real

and you know what's funny is like

uh you can even see waves

waves of uh the divide in the us by

let's go brandon and all that [ __ ] right

now it was the top of apple it was on

top of apple music

oh let's brandon's just a conspiracy

theory bro oh yeah yeah that's

anticipated

yo and another thing bro oh yo

destiny once argued a year ago or two

years ago that uh social media isn't

controlled by dems

he said he said most social medias uh

favors the right wing or something

i was like wow

yeah

no bro you can sum up destiny's [ __ ]

greatest argument of all time i forgot

who's he was uh talking to but

uh the guy said most men are stronger

than women and stephen said what about

ronda rousey

he's like you think you can take ronda

rousey and the funniest part of that

argument

is uh yes i can

i can't take

there was that thing where the [ __ ]

women's soccer team was beaten by 10

year olds

yeah yeah no 17 year olds i think yeah

something like that like what the [ __ ]

no one thing that was crazy eye opening

to me was someone in chat said a 14 year

old boy

can out wrestle a grown woman

yeah

and i'm like yeah he can easily do it i

never thought of that it's true

obviously it's true

no but uh you gotta debate destiny more

often i just tuned in last second i'm

like oh this is gold man

right it's so boring though it's like we

just oh it's always the same thing he

just gives up

he just goes yeah you know what's weird

is that's not his style it's only with

you

yeah

he just gave up i had to keep like

pushing it along because he kept wanting

to give up early

so weird

but it always happens unexpected i never

look to debate him it just always

happens you know

oh i'm going to be debating him in

person

uh january there's like an event that i

got invited to

in

and yeah in texas in january

it's like in houston or some [ __ ]

no shots right yeah

you're gonna bro you're gonna have your

[ __ ] road

that sounds kind of dangerous i'm not

gonna lie why

because those like

i don't know just in person like i

obviously stephen's the normal guy but

his chats you know they

you know you can talk

yes they will dox you

well they would dodge me but how would

they

i'm just saying in person i wouldn't you

know like i wouldn't uh trust anyone

there

oh no i'm not i'm just gonna go to the

event

you think i'd get like followed back to

my hotel or some [ __ ]

yeah

no no but record it i'm saying you might

get recorded

oh yeah yeah no nothing will happen

yeah no you you know what's crazy is um

that i have a conspiracy theory right

yeah

you know how destiny always debates

everyone yeah yeah

he turned down every single debate with

you on my royales which was weird

and so did irrelevant when i invited him

from royale with you right

i just think they see me as a as a as

like uh

i'm outside of their like bubbles or

whatever i'm not like debating what the

media is always saying i'm bringing new

stuff and they don't like the new stuff

you know what i'm saying like i talk

about [ __ ] that you don't see on twitter

on the media

no no you have some offline

conversations live that's why they don't

like you yeah yeah

yeah another thing too is um this is

unrelated but dude you got to send me

that address in la

yeah yeah

i didn't book the flight i didn't book

the flight yet oh you didn't

i i didn't do it yet i'm about to do it

uh today i thought you asked what you

already did yeah i'll book it as soon as

you do

yeah yeah

and i'm thinking of staying like maybe

[ __ ]

14 days are we gonna go to austin

i don't know man i really don't know

because uh

this trip is costing so much money

already like a [ __ ] ton of money what

for the airbnb

yeah i'll tell you this stuff offline

but uh

basically you know

bro i used to let you know i don't have

to save money or whatever but i can get

a place for free

yeah but that means we're with some

[ __ ] stranger right no

what just us yeah well how much of us

are there i don't know how many people

can fit

what is it an apartment

no it's a hotel

how do you get it for free i'll tell you

offline but it's yeah

oh if it's some sketch [ __ ] it's not

sketch it's not sketch

okay i gotta suck someone off

no it's fantastic

i have relatives

oh okay basically i have relatives that

have a time share that they're gonna

give me because they're not going

anywhere for christmas

are you [ __ ] serious so i don't have

to spend a dime

i i have to see how big it is because

how many people are gonna be in it bro

i'll kick everyone out it'll be us too

oh us two is easy yeah us two is easy

but here's the thing

i can have it for 14 days no no probably

just seven and then we have to go

somewhere else

oh that's even better bro that's

okay then bro then food's on me what the

[ __ ] yeah yeah yeah yeah that's what i

was trying to tell you yeah it's like

it's free seven days

but um how the hell dude i seriously

thought you could do that

it's my relatives time share dude trust

me have you done it before yeah

years ago

oh my [ __ ] god yo that's actually

insane

oh where what part of the city

um i have i don't know that's what i

wanted to ask you because i think we

have options because it's a hotel oh my

god bro okay i gotta call you when i'm

offline yeah yeah what the [ __ ] yeah

there's a royale today you coming yeah

of course of course

dude dude hold on are you [ __ ]

serious we actually have options yeah

oh that is [ __ ] insane and you know

the best part

and i'm gonna tell you one of the

options we have ready you don't have to

mute you don't have to mute no i'll tell

you it i don't want people

bro so wait how many people though

because is this going to be us 2 or

that's that's the thing

the the other people are just visitors

they're not going to live with us

wait they're not going to like stay with

us

no not because um they they already live

in the city they live there oh

is

she lives

all these people live

yeah bro bro then yeah you should have

told me that because yeah if it's just

gonna be us two i easily that's easy

just two people

easy that's

all right and yo if it's like some motel

six i'm down without dude it's not it's

it's a really nice one too no bro motel

six bro i know a guy he can get a

[ __ ] he can give me a grab listen

when you see it oh bro he can he can

give me a gram for 20 bucks like

are we live yeah

i'm kidding

when you see it you're gonna be like

holy [ __ ] how did you get this because

it's gonna be that nice trust me

that's really are you the last person on

earth that i thought would have a

[ __ ] hotel hookup

yeah bro i got relatives

dude that's actually a [ __ ] blessing

boat yeah

yeah brian that's it

are you taking a plane

yeah well obviously the [ __ ] i live in

michigan

you know

if you want to rent a car we can't

[ __ ] rent a car yo

yo we can actually rent the ferrari now

what the [ __ ] no

bro we sh

yeah wait we should rent a car probably

yeah yeah

i'll give you money we rent it under

your name

okay yeah yeah yeah wait so should we

fly in the same day then

yeah look we should have a full seven

days together and uh and yo i don't know

if you know anything about me but like i

like to do in and out bro i don't have

in and out so i do it every day

oh like uber eats or whatever

yeah bro like we don't have it in canada

so i'm gonna [ __ ] go hard i'm gonna

get a i'm gonna get like a week two-week

membership at a gym too

i'm so down the train

yeah bro it's gonna be fun

i'm so down to [ __ ] train like uh

what's our scheduling gonna be like when

what time we're gonna wake up usually

that can change but it's three hours so

it's three hours earlier than me

so

can we get two bathrooms or is that

possible i'll see i'll see i hopefully

hopefully but yeah in the bathroom

because i'm broke because when i was in

[ __ ] austin yeah i got the two two

bathrooms and

i would always think of [ __ ] at the same

time and we'd scream at each other from

different bathrooms as we're shooting

and sometimes we'd even facetime each

other and [ __ ]

and uh yeah we need two bathrooms bro

yeah yeah i'll see what i can do

i can't guarantee that though but i'll

see that the bathroom is going to be

really nice too though

really let's see shower and everything

you know that's sick

like two rooms

yeah obviously well you know what

if i was to take a [ __ ] couch i'd be

happy to be honest no no it's no no uh

it's probably gonna be two rooms but uh

it's not gonna be couch it's it'll be

two beds two beds yeah and this place

this place is fancy right

yeah

so we we shouldn't be that loud and [ __ ]

uh

i don't know bro i don't know

why are you laughing like i'm saying

we're banging each other bro

no i'm saying uh i don't i don't know i

don't know what limits we can push when

it comes to being loud like bro i'm i'm

telling you bro

this is gonna be hilarious because uh

first we do need our own rooms though

because like have you tried bro you

tried tinder in l.a

bro i just put streamer on my dinner

right twit or partner twitter

and it's the funniest [ __ ] dms ever

bro they're it's like

they're [ __ ] they they will see us as

a like i look like a christ-like figure

when i'm out there

[Laughter]

yeah yeah that's hilarious

i copied the destiny thing where he just

like uses this cloud thing oh it's gonna

be christmas too and this is gonna bro

this is gonna be so fun i swear to god i

know i know

dude dude it's gonna be uh

yo we'll do a [ __ ] i'll i'll cook you

a turkey how about that

no how are you gonna cook a [ __ ]

turkey in a hotel room the [ __ ]

it's possible we have an oven nah

[ __ ] that bro that's gonna he's gonna

smell that [ __ ] up

bro [ __ ] la

it's gonna be great do you think it's

more busy or less busy on during

christmas

oh you know what

we have to go see the new matrix

let me look up what it is

go hello

what

december 22nd damn this one is coming

out

yo we're gonna get some only fans gross

to cook the turkey and [ __ ]

bruh matrix comes out the 22nd

i'm down yo let's do edibles and watch

it bro

is it legal in uh california

yeah and if it isn't gives a [ __ ]

because i'm doing all sorts of [ __ ]

there i mean like can you just buy it

from the dispenser yeah you can yeah oh

base base yeah some people even give it

out for free on the streets it's so

crazy i don't trust that but

bro listen i'm not you

dude

that's crazy bro i wanted some i mean

yeah

what would happen if you said that

unmuted i don't know i don't know that's

the thing i don't know

oh you're just uh being paranoid okay

just being safe yeah yeah

but

yeah bro it's gonna be crazy and [ __ ]

dude only the only thing i gotta watch

out for in la

is i can't get fat because

you won't you you you won't get fat

cause we'll have so much to do it's not

like it's not really like we're not

staying in one spot we're moving around

a lot and plus you won't get fat because

there'll be so many chicks so like you

know you'll lose appetite and get hard

yes

does that make sense yeah yeah yeah yeah

like i noticed food only tastes good

when you're like kind of locked up and

have no chicks right

also bro we're gonna we're gonna do a

lot of blow together

nah chill bro

yo chad if he loses a lot of weight bro

this guy's on coke

i'm kidding i'm kidding

yeah

and yo we're actually gonna um

bro i'm not even gonna i'll never

[ __ ] stream you i only capture a good

angle i'll put the phone down i'll be

like yo do you like this angle do you

think you look good here and you'll be

like yeah and i'll hit live and i'm

going to surprise you with a ton of

chicks on stream bro

bro

i'm bringing my laptop so we're going to

be able to do uh indoor streams too

like yeah i was thinking

should i buy a laptop for all this or

should we just use yours

mine is really really good but uh you

should probably get a laptop anyway you

know it's useful yeah

should probably get one anyway and then

if you if you want you can just return

it

if you do it from best buy you can just

return it at a best buy in l.a

yeah you know how i know i need a laptop

because i'm like

i just left

i don't know what the [ __ ] happened

all right

[Music]

uh did the [ __ ] royale star well i

don't think it's gonna start for a while

because

the intros are usually super long

intro super user uh what laptop i got

i have a uh

what is it

it's uh asus i got the asus it's a sick

asus laptop it's actually sick

um

it's gonna be crazy

oh he's going

yo hello

yo i just realized isn't destiny in l.a

uh

[ __ ] i don't know

yeah i think so yeah

[ __ ] dude you know the only way out

i'm gonna

the only the only fun thing we could do

tell him don't go live so his

community's not there and us three chil

offline together and just eat yeah we

get to talk [ __ ] we you know offline

he's so funny bro

bro offline he's

offline he's no lip bro he's normal

i'm serious

dude uh

uh jana's there too

uh no she's in san diego oh really

yeah i thought she does the irls

no

bro [ __ ] san diego that place sucks

is the zoo in l.a because we should go

to a zoo too

uh i thought the zoo was in san diego

oh i'm so [ __ ] down to irl stream the

zoo yeah

yeah bro we're getting kicked out man

that's the thing both that's the thing

is like um

we also have to be a little mature

because you and i are not that we're not

the elk boys they will tase us to death

you know

right you're actually they're gonna see

us as terrorists so we need to calm down

when we're out there

yeah bro i gotta be careful too because

i know you act crazy and [ __ ] and

bro lap lapd are straight up they'll

shoot us for no reason bro

yeah we we gotta be careful definitely

yeah

[ __ ] man

i'm gonna make sure before i go i get a

haircut i'm gonna get my beard good and

everything and then i'm gonna worry

about [ __ ]

you know yeah now you're gonna see bro

we're gonna be smashing chicks and

flip-flops you don't need to look good

yeah

[ __ ] um

who else is in la that we know

i i never remember but people just bro

i'll be walking on the street and people

just come up to you like they come out

the woodworks bro so i i never remember

all i know is we must see manuel first

right and manny is the greatest dude

and he's he's

he's just like a home whole me you know

what i mean yeah yeah yeah

for real yeah

[ __ ] um

what else should people do in l.a i was

thinking you and i we could we could go

to like uh we could go like

let's do you and i go to the church of

scientology we'll do that we'll

definitely stream that but we can also

go to like uh disney world or some [ __ ]

a universal

whoa bro this is my first trip where i'm

not with just a broski like offline i

actually get to talk about politics and

[ __ ] i'm interested in and yo we i

actually get to break down society with

you live like i can drive we could go to

walmart and i could be like look at this

[ __ ] [ __ ]

that's actually hilarious man dude they

even have fun

let's dress up as characters man

yeah yeah i was thinking of going full

trump supporter

[Laughter]

nah dude you have to be careful in la

you'll get attacked

no bro i did it last time they did

nothing really

yeah bro i'm actually a lot bigger than

i look dude

like

i'm actually dude they'd have to be

dwayne johnson's size to [ __ ]

land a good hit on me and [ __ ] that that

i'd feel you know like we can dress up

as anything bro no i'm gonna mute one

sec no

i get you jokes

not muted i'm eating

yeah

bro that is i don't know why you muted i

think that's a lot to say

okay

no dude you know you know the weird

thing is uh you haven't been in la in a

while right oh it's been like 10 years

yeah

yeah there's no reception at venice

beach it's i know it's hard to believe

but uh really

you you can only record you can't go

live on venice beach it's the worst

connection ever

is it is venice beach where they got the

outdoor gym

oh yes is that is that like accessible

to everyone

basically venice beach is filled with

the ugliest people you'll ever see in

your life why would we go there

that's the weird thing is like you think

la's all beautiful people and [ __ ] but

nah bro that's the hills and those

people are like augmented and fake why

don't we go to why don't we go to like a

better beach there's like uh laguna

beach and all that [ __ ] no i'm saying

dude watch around la you're gonna say to

yourself wow just americans are ugly in

general

really you're going to be shocked bro

bro me and knute were shocked hold on

more than austin

uh identical

no because let me tell you what austin

had a bunch every

everyone was thick and awesome every

girl i saw a [ __ ] fat ass austin oh

like you liked it yeah

well in the clubs or where

everywhere

everywhere you'd go

i'd be like damn this ain't michigan

but

listen um

no inkbites is asking is the royale

happening people are in the discord

yeah yeah it's happening

all right yeah so yeah confirmed oh i'm

gonna go live right now peace

all right hold on wait uh should i

should i rage you right now or should i

wait

we'll finish what you're talking about

and then raid

okay yeah yeah all right all right see

you later and yo yo yo yo yo yeah how's

this chat

give subs if you think he beat destiny

alright see you later