DYLAN BURNS LIED [2022-01-16]

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all right what's up everybody i'm gonna

keep this quick

i wouldn't have time for everybody to

get in here but uh i'm in an uber right

now i'm on my way back

and um

i just got off the airplane

from dallas so i've been on the

airplane this whole time for full three

hours and uh

a lot of controversy a lot of these

twitch streamers are

posting the debate i had with dylan

we're covering it

thank you man

between daniel and destiny thank you man

we appreciate you

um so guys i want you to know that

there's a little problem here right

right from the

get-go

is that

that was not a debate that was allowed

to be live streamed

so

no one had any uh no one gave any

consent for that to be live stream to

twitch uh modern day debate made that

prohibited in the event they wanted

exclusive streaming over it

so whoever it was in the audience that

was live streaming that was not supposed

to be doing that that debate was not

supposed to be live

important to understand i had no idea i

was being streamed

no one the modern day debate moderators

had no idea we were being streamed so

whoever that person was that was

streaming it

uh

was violating the rules

basically they were breaking the rules

like that

no one gave any consent to be streamed

for that that was supposed to be for

modern day debates youtube

is that

it would have been so much better if you

would have saw it on their channel like

the

camera i mean you'll see when they post

it how much how much better it is

i mean i'm just talking in terms of like

audio and the visual and and uh you know

stuff like that which is also the one

i'm gonna post on my channel so that one

was not supposed to be streamed to

twitch that was not allowed to be uh

streamed right i don't know who that

person in the audience was i did see a

lot of people with their phones out

recording

but i was just assuming that they were

just posting it for twitter or posting

it for whatever

so i talked to the guy at um

modern day debates about it and they're

getting it sorted out

because they didn't know about that

either right

so any of you if you guys heard

this is not news to my stream because i

actually talked about this like

four days ago right

um i decided pretty recent experience

actually with boxing

so

the reconsider basically means

the one month that we agreed to that i

would need for training

would have to be extended by a lot and

if you know anything about boxing i mean

if we both start out with same skill

level

uh and then we just train for one month

i'm down to risk that right i know it's

a i guess a gamble but i'm down for it i

just think in terms of our pure raw

aggression

there'd be no chance right

and also i'm a little bit experienced

with with martial arts so although i

don't know how much that would help in

boxing honestly

um

so

that

that had to be renegotiated a lot of

people are saying oh how's when you went

and saw dylan in person you changed your

mind no i didn't you can see on the

stream before i went to dallas

and you could see in the dms that i

leaked

uh that that wasn't the case so why is

all this [ __ ] being brought up now

um

because during me and dylan's debate

he got really wrecked i mean he got so

wiped and humiliated

that guy came with a binder full of

notes so i was expecting a really tough

time

but

um for whatever odd reason i guess i

just really overestimated him and it was

a lot easier than than i expected right

i mean those of you who saw the debate

know that

but

because of that

he decided to abruptly

bring up

the

the claim that i backed out of the

boxing match right

what we were arguing over was not over

whether there's going to be a uh

i can't say fight because that sounds

like on twitch like a street fight

but we're talking about a legal

sanctioned match so keep that in mind

what we were arguing about

was

whether it was justified for me to

reconsider in light of the fact

that i find out he's experienced of

course i have to reconsider

um and the reason i have to reconsider

is if i need six months of training

he has one year by the way of experience

he fought

formally

formal training and he fought formally

competitively

uh how is that going to take away from

my channel how is that going to

impact my streaming career how am i

going to make money in that time i mean

i've lost a lot of money in la you guys

can see my subs are kind of down from

what they used to be and i have to build

that back up

also

who's going to train me in that in that

six months i mean what gyms am i there's

so much i have to figure out and

reconsider

so last monday i told him i'll give you

my final answer next monday but i gotta

figure some [ __ ] out first right and

also

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and i have dallas i gotta go to right

um

sorry i'm a little congested from the

flight let me say

so he was really in retreat in that

debate and

he really uh a lot of people think that

i'm the one who challenged him or i

decided to randomly bring it up no he's

the one who brought it up right

thank you so much tuna tickler

appreciate you man thank you so much for

the five appreciate you

thank you so much man

um

but also a lot of people think that this

is like oh ha so you're saying there's

not gonna be any fight and again by

fight i mean a sport a sanction match

and no nothing has been finalized in all

likelihood there is going to be an mma

match there's still some things i got to

make sure of

with certainty

but in all likelihood there is going to

be an mma match

the mma match is going to require

substantially less training for me

because i already have some background

in martial arts

boxing has a lot of rules boxing has a

lot of technicalities and the way in

which the winner is decided

um is very formal and regulated and

technical you know it's not really based

on how much you you destroy the other

person i know mma is not necessarily the

same

uh sorry mma is not necessarily that

either but

it's much more up my alley right mma is

much more up my alley i'm much more

comfortable with mma

than with boxers we were like are you

hoes are you admitting dylan would beat

you in a boxing match i have no formal

training in boxing

so yeah if i train for a month

and he's boxed for a year let me just go

on record saying i probably would lose a

boxing match

to him

that's common sense

if he was a um

if he was like

400 pounds obese i mean i know i'm

exaggerating

if he was like 4-2

or something

and i'm not saying that for any

particulars i'm just saying giving a

hypothetical of someone really out of

shape they would still probably beat me

because at the end of the day boxing is

a tech it's not a street fight it's a

very uh

professional formal whatever

technical sport so yes training is going

to be the deciding factor all else uh

notwithstanding right

if he has a year of experience and i

only have one month in boxing

that is almost a guaranteed win for him

i don't know why that seems like

so but a lot of people mistake that for

a fight

well there's a lot of different types of

fights there's a street fight which i

would never initiate

um texas legally has

dueling

laws that allow it so i would only

follow the law and abide by the law

obviously

um

but i told him in light of that you know

uh if you have such a problem with me

you know

uh and you feel like you want to test me

well you know think anything obviously

you know

so twitch understands but

i'm gonna be here right i'm not going

and i'm right here and we could go

outside whatever you want and he didn't

want to do that

uh he wanted to box specifically

now he did talk about mma

but mma also needs training just less

training right

and

the reason i was arguing with it wasn't

because i'm saying there's not going to

be an mma match

but because i was trying to make the

point that it's still not a street fight

you still need to train

training matters right

um

so a lot of people got misunderstood by

that clip

uh that got posted on twitter but you

don't have the context

no one said there's gonna be no fight

nobody said anybody's backing out of a

sanctioned legal fight with dylan

whatever

uh it's just that it's in all likelihood

it's going to be mma

and

yeah it's as simple as that and you know

i still have to check some details out i

have a team

uh i have gyms

i have to change where i live i probably

will live in my parents house for a

month or two because it's closer to

detroit for

me and detroit is where i'm gonna be

training

uh

there's a lot of things i still have to

work out you know um also i don't know

if i'm gonna have him cut or not right i

still haven't decided if i want to do

that have him cut down to my weight

level or not

um

in person he was not very impressive

uh when he told me 210 in the dms i was

expecting

a lot more but i can't really disclose

much because it's twitch but

yeah in person it was not very

impressive to me

um

so i'm still not decided if i'm going to

have him cut or not

the reason i wasn't for

boxing is that with no experience at all

in boxing i was just going to wear him

out you know 10 rounds

obviously you would you would even if

your

your

weight is not based in muscle you could

still do

considerable damage with punches

but i know how to dodge those right

so

that was the plan first with mars mma is

a different story right

so we'll see if i want to have him drop

down or maybe we can meet somewhere i

can put on some pounds

whatever how that's gonna work

it has to be a legal mma match we're

gonna get a gym and we're gonna make

sure it's you know

professional and stuff or not you know

just some

illegal stuff

there's also other options i'm weighing

there's a youtube channel called street

beefs

and i'm thinking if i want to go pursue

it through that

and what the process is for that

so i haven't i haven't nailed everything

down if i'm hesitant to

announce anything

it's because i haven't nailed the

details down you know this isn't just

something you commit to

without knowing you are indeed going to

be able to do it right

but yes in all likelihood

there is probably going to be an mma

match

uh it's going to happen a lot sooner

than six months of boxing match

or it could happen later

and the training will just be less

intensive and and um

less

consistent you know

we'll see all that has to still be

figured out

uh i'm going back to detroit around the

27th

and by then

when i get there actually that's when

i'm gonna get all this [ __ ] sorted out

for now i'm gonna enjoy my time in la

you know i'm not gonna worry about this

dumb [ __ ]

and when i get back to the i already you

know made phone calls or whatever have

uh training set up i mean i am training

right when i get back home so it's not

like

i'm i'm putting this aside

it's just that i'm not going to fully

announce anything

until the details are worked out

right and he's covering all the costs

now so that's a w i got to from him he

decided he's going to cover all the

costs so i don't have to pay for

anything

uh

and

you know and i don't have to worry about

promoting it or any of that kind of

[ __ ] to make money from it i don't

have to worry about any of that you know

we're just gonna basically settle this

um

yeah i mean

i can't wait for the debate to be

uploaded because you're going to see why

he decided to bring it up in the first

place

but i don't know why people are so

surprised or

it made such an impression on people

because

now i'm not different in person than i

am on camera i'm not different

oh another thing people are asking

during the debates you looked a lot

smaller than everyone

well because the camera was closer to

them

okay i mean i do have to teach you guys

common sense now

uh

i i sized up dylan in person i made sure

to do that because i hadn't even given a

final answer for the boxing match

and in terms of that

all worries were clear right

like that tipped the scale in favor of

yes

as far as my final answer is concerned

the only problem with boxing is the

experience factor

the size factor is a non-issue it's not

an issue whatsoever he's not

uh he's opera

thank you

he's got about two inches on me he's not

really tall

um

and he's he's not particularly uh

thick i guess i don't know what else to

put it like big boned or whatever so i

yeah i didn't really uh have any issues

sizing him up

uh he does have a lot of weight on me i

can't really comment on the nature of

that weight because we don't want to be

abusive

but

that's not

particularly an issue for me

it's not something i consider an issue

um i was pleasantly surprised uh in

person

needless to say i mean the 210 thing

kind of did

uh

get me thinking a little bit like how am

i going to do this whatever but in

person it's like okay this

this this doesn't seem like it's going

to be very difficult like he doesn't

seem like he's very coordinated very

balanced

uh he

yeah

and and the mental factor too is a thing

too it just i just don't think it would

be very difficult for me

um but it does gonna it's gonna have to

be mma it's gonna be we're gonna have to

meet somewhere in the middle between

his one year of boxing experience

and my experience with martial arts

right

um

we're gonna have to meet in the middle

with that i think mma will will

accomplish that right

um

you know i also want to start seeing

more demand for it too

i don't want to commit one two months

and have nobody give a [ __ ] about it so

yeah this is gonna be something that's

gonna have to be

uh

talked about

uh

keep in mind guys all this [ __ ] happened

today with one hour of sleep

so

you know

just

i'm still have to go to the gym as well

like i still have to uh

still have to do that

needless to say uh

yeah i got a lot of [ __ ] i gotta still

do

just can't wait to go to bed and get

some full rest

start in the morning again

but it's really crazy how like

you know every time i get these major

optical w's

they all somehow know what to do to try

to turn it against me you know do you

guys ever notice that

every time i win these debate like

something happens and it's like

they have to find a way to like did you

guys see what the clip that went viral

on lsf i mean i don't think anyone takes

it seriously right but

yeah it's one of those things

um

i legit thought he that was like his

marriage photo like yeah this is me when

i was married you know i'm being polite

i'm like okay whatever

he's like do you think my wife is pretty

i'm like

yeah okay

i don't know what point you're trying to

make you know

um

but i guess that's a

a lesson about politeness

all right thank you so much man i'm just

gonna pack this charger

okay

thanks so much man

i can't believe i'm back

home sweet home

right

except we're still in l.a

ah [ __ ]

oh man what a day

what a wild day

to be fair

i will admit something

um

i did instigate that whole thing 100 it

was on me and the reason it's on me is

because

i interrupted him so much

throughout that debate

throughout that whole debate i

interrupted him so so much

okay

the problem is why were you so

disrespectful just interrupting him

because i had just debated destiny

you know i was i i had to catch a flight

very soon

my patience was thinning

and

the truth is

and i'm gonna be just god honest about

this

uh i don't respect dylan i just don't

respect him

i know who he is

respect him i don't

yeah you guys need to chill

please don't be roaches please i don't

want to walk through into roaches

i don't want to walk into roaches

i don't want to walk into roaches i had

questions

thank you so much drew skittles

you ngo anyway guys um

yes why don't you respect dylan

um

because i don't like time wait i don't

like time wasters

and he's a time waster

one of the things i cannot forgive our

time wasters because why are you

interrupting him and all this kind of

[ __ ]

i mean

i did i did bait him into that i'm not

gonna lie it was 100 his frustration

at my constant interruptions

and yelling

and it just he i think he's young you

know i think he said like he was in high

school three years ago apparently

which makes him kind of young compared

to me

it's one of those things i don't really

respect him you know i'm an elder

i'm an old head you

know you guys never had a tour of my

place have you

i'm gonna pick my nose i'm gonna get

this off screen

ah

is there any stuff i gotta hide

uh

no

i'm just picking my nose guys

i'm in my bathroom right now

can you show condoms on stream

i'm just kidding

it's a joke

anyway um

yeah i did i did start it technically

because i was interrupted i have to put

some respect on my name you know if

you're this young

and you're challenging me to a debate

about china

and you're just repeating [ __ ] that

i've heard before wasting my time it's

like i'm going to just give you a lesson

is it sit down kid

listen to your elders

got to find an outlet that i could use

while

i guess we're going to sit at the

kitchen

have a nice

so crazy how like this is like my home

now you know

[ __ ]

you know what i'm gonna just take it to

uh

the good old streaming setup you know

you guys see this

see how my bottles start to accumulate

just like home

ah

okay

yeah again

i really just don't respect the guy and

i mean that uh not only in the personal

sense

but

uh in the um

sense of like what is their level of

knowledge about things

how worthy of a debate opponent are they

i don't sometimes it's not my fault and

i do start it

there were some cool people in the crowd

i think i can't really tell who's fake

and who's not by the way

at that convention or whatever and i

think everyone there was dg jeters

everyone was so super respectful to me

and so

cordial and how has i'm a big fan

and and i could kind of tell people were

lying but i didn't impress them about it

but um

you know uh [ __ ]

oh yeah yeah

one of the other reasons people look i

look like a madman yelling at that crowd

because i didn't really respect the

crowd either

i mean i don't know how i put this but

it's like

the crowd that was there i'm just

looking far and wide and i'm just

there's like about uh

20 people in that room at most being

generous i think it was about 15.

i just i i feel like i'm a professor you

know and i gotta teach see everyone as

an equal i know it's really arrogant to

say but

it's objectively how i feel

um especially when it comes to this

topic about taiwan china and stuff

you know that

ah that was such a swift quick debate

[ __ ]

when i wake up tonight this is all a

dream

oh yeah for some reason

um

nicholas

i don't know who that guy is

beau blacks and and auggie and those

that community they have this big issue

with me now you know they have this huge

issue

and apparently they're like friends with

dylan burns i didn't know that but yeah

they do have a history of like being

friends and friendly or whatever i think

they're kind of dgg people i don't know

um which is surprising because i always

thought those people would be more

independent-minded

i guess not you know

but uh they got an issue with me and one

of them shared a tweet like oh my god

haas is a [ __ ]

hey

but it also with the rules