The Communist Stance on Abortion

all right it's time for some

motherfucking discourse

that is fucking depressing that is so

depressing I mean we just have to talk

about the latest thing right we always

got to give our two cents

on that latest issue

so

pass what do you think of abortion

what do you think of abortion that's the

big thing that's on the agenda that's

what everyone's talking about it's the

big buzz there's Supreme Court decision

that overturned Roe v Wade

hi

so

I'm gonna go ahead and say something for

y'all I'm gonna go ahead and say

something for y'all

I'm gonna say something pretty

provocative actually

and I kind of feel like actually just

doing this while I have a Twitter space

up

so we can like give it to the yeah I

think I'm gonna actually do a Twitter

space while I do this too

um so let me do this as well

put this Twitter space up

start that space and get that rolling

we're gonna get that rolling rolling

rolling rolling rolling rolling rolling

I'm not gonna accept any speakers but

I'm gonna just like have this space

running and then I'm gonna bring on

speakers

once we get to that time so

a lot of y'all

okay before we get into this because I

you know what I'm actually gonna give a

um

a view on this that's gonna surprise a

lot of y'all and it's actually going to

deviate from what I've said before

because I'm actually going to give a

take on this I've never actually given a

take on this before I've always said I

don't give a really give a fuck let

women decide and sort that out amongst

themselves but as a man I'm gonna butt

in and give my two cents on this issue

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anyway

um because I think I think you know I've

seen the discourse I've been looking at

the discourse and I've been looking at

the way people on our side of the aisle

which are supposedly Communists I've

just been looking at the way they've

been talking about it

I've been looking at the way they've

been talking about it and I can't help

but notice that the entire so-called

communist or Marxist Lenin so-called

Marxist leninist left has been getting

the whole thing fucking wrong just so

like pathetically and utterly wrong so

that's the first thing I want to just

give you guys the way in which people

are talking about this issue the way

people are describing it the way people

are um

you know uh

framing it is unmarxist it's liberal

it's anti-communist whatever and it has

nothing to do with the historical stance

of Communist States or even communist

parties in history okay

so I know this is going to come up a

bunch of times tonight this is going to

come up a bunch of times right I mean oh

my God I can't I can't wait for all this

shit to come up thank you all the Soviet

Union was the first country to legalize

abortion

that is a pure falsification of History

it's almost as much of a falsification

as like the idea that the Soviet Union

was pioneering LGBT rights in reality

the Soviet Union was the result of a

revolution

and that Revolution pretty much

overturned all of the former and

previous tsarist codes right

and as a result of that the everything

was fucking thrown in the table they had

to completely rewrite the legal code and

oh they had they borrowed some elements

sure but like it they didn't really like

go through the whole thing and like

consciously make a decision on all of

these issues and from the very beginning

in the USSR

if you didn't know that

um the abortion thing was a matter of

public debate people were debating it

doctors were debating it and by the way

the debates never ever never was there

any factor in this debate the question

of individual Choice oh well it's her

body her choice I'm sorry but that's

just not that was never a factor in any

of the debates surrounding abortion in

the early days of the Soviet Union it

was in it was a complete non-factor so

the side of the aisle that wanted you

know more Lacks

um a more lack stance on abortion was

basically saying that it is an evil but

it's happening still and it's not safe

so we should do it in hospitals just to

like reduce the number of

um you know uh safety hazards to women

right and then on the other hand you you

had people saying well there's an issue

of we don't have enough of a population

we need to grow our population you know

there's an issue of

just I'm sure there was a moral I I mean

I haven't read it specifically in the

early days of the USSR but I'm sure that

was also a given that there's that also

the moral factor and all that kind of

stuff so it was a debate and this thing

that you hear it almost exclusively from

American liberals my body my choice yeah

first of all

that is I'm gonna really get like delve

deep into this but that is not a factor

in how communist I mean I don't even

think we should really be focusing on

this issue at all and I'm gonna get into

that as well but since we're talking

about it like no

the whole my choice my body thing is a

completely liberal and non-communist

way of framing the issue and and pretty

much any issue for that matter

um I should add

um

to be clear okay

without giving what I think should be

the proper communist view on this issue

um

I first want to say and point out that

a lot of people don't know this and this

is like the first thing I really want to

say

but

um

America's laws right now on access to

abortions

represent an extreme compared to Global

standards I know a lot of people tend to

think that oh America's so backward and

the rest of the world is more advanced

on us about cultural issues no this is

like a very specifically American View

and approach to the question thank you

so much Ethan appreciate you

appreciate you so much convenient what

about when the birth of the child would

be fatal for both the mother and the

infant it well look all you have to do

is look at what most countries

say about the issue and I'm going to

show you that right but just to be clear

you know it seems like in America when

you if someone were to say like actually

I don't think there should be

unconditional access to abortion that's

somehow an extremist position that's

like an extreme if you if you reject the

idea that it's my body my choice that is

somehow like an extreme position but for

literally almost every other country on

planet Earth

um it's it's not extreme at all to

recognize that the issue of uh abortion

and the issue of like when do we

actually Define life or if you want to

get less metaphysical like

um

should can there be social regulation

over you know when it is or isn't

allowed to terminate a fetus I mean most

countries in the world most places in

the world believe in restrictions on

abortion and they don't believe that you

know as long as it's in my body it's my

choice yeah that's like almost no

countries in the world

that's that's a very uniquely American

individualist View and if you want me to

prove that to you I can actually show

you a map right now about of abortion

laws around the world so abortion law

around the world so check it check out

this fucking map it's actually gonna

blow your mind okay so fuck Wikipedia

for not fucking opening

here now it'll open okay

so check this out all right

what the fuck is this

okay here we go

um

here we go

abortion law okay check this out all

right

so

basically how it works is that this is

like the color code from like no

restriction some restriction more

restriction and then it just keeps

getting to more and more restrictions on

the ability to have abortion with the

black one meaning illegal right so check

out most of the fucking world what the

most of the world

um

you see you see something that you know

it's the United States it's Sweden which

is a surprise to no one it's

um

Australia and it's uh Vietnam

which to be fair you know does is ruled

by a Communist Party

but I mean beyond that

and then it's also uh Colombia right

and then beyond that you know and by the

way these still represent restrictions

but they're like the the most LAX views

on the issue everyone else clearly has a

more restrictive View and approach to

the question of um whether abortion is

in fact just a woman's choice or not

right

um and then when you see the baby blight

blue this is like psychotic this is like

there's no limit at all you can just

abort it whenever you fucking want and

it's like we we're sitting here in

America freaking out over Roe v Wade

it's the handmaiden's tale all over

again I mean look compared to the rest

of the fucking world we have a pretty

extremely

pro-abortion Society compared to the

rest of the world like compared to the

rest of the world we have an extremely

liberal View

and I'm not just saying liberal in the

sense of like Freer but in the sense of

like more just almost psychotically like

liberal individualistic liberalism right

where we literally just believe oh yeah

there's no there's there's it's not a

social question whatsoever about fetuses

or anything like that it's like it's a

completely individual choice of the

woman and that's it like that's I mean

look you got fucking shithole Sweden and

then the United States and

it's like the rest of the world clearly

does it so is the rest of the world

engaging in this conspiracy against

women and it's completely anti-feminist

like I don't I don't really think so I

think um before we even talk about this

fucking issue

I think we have to like come to terms

with the fact that the US has an

extraordinarily liberal view on abortion

okay there's no conservative conspiracy

to have the handmaiden's tale oh it's

the end of the world for women oh my God

I mean if it's the the world for women

in the U.S I mean look at France

literally look at France

France is like way more liberal in the

U.S in almost every other respect but

they restrict it right I mean look at

every other fucking country on this map

they're so little countries that agree

with the US's like very liberal policy

on abortion okay

so

I bet you guys didn't know this right I

bet you didn't know this but yeah it is

the case so not to get into a more um

philosophical discussion

I'm not really interested in the

question of you know when does Life

begin as much as I'm interested in the

question of

when do things become a cause for social

concern right because according to

liberalism the individual is completely

free from any social constraints

whatsoever and it's just this completely

individualistic view of like yeah

individuals have the freedom of choice

to do whatever the fuck they want

uninhibited whatever right

um

and what's what's odd about the abortion

debate is that

um

I think this it took upon the question

of like how do individuals I mean

multiply right it's like you're dealing

with the question of like okay where do

individuals come from

and it's like at that precise point

where you just kind of are in this gray

area between like society which is

between individuals and individual

rights just of one individual right

and you know America

is a very pragmatic country and

according to our pragmatic tradition we

reject all metaphysics we only care

about what works and what's evidence

like the most hyper Ultra Modern country

on planet Earth but I do think it's a

little odd how we have on the so-called

Progressive and liberal side such a like

fanatically

um certain view about how yeah the um

abortions should just completely be a

woman's Choice whenever she fucking

wants to her body her choice

um and a fetus it's like it's not of any

of our concern only when the baby is

physically removed from the woman

could it have any rights or not have any

rights specifically but like only then

do we treat it as something worthy of

social or societal consideration right

that's like such a

um pragma this is going to go pragmatist

view in a bad way I would say of viewing

life because it's almost like you're

saying it's not a life until it's like

out there and we can fucking see it it's

like you know how Descartes said I think

therefore I am it's almost like

Americans have this idea about abortion

it's like well until I see it it it

doesn't exist it's not a real living

thing until it's completely separated

from the mother's body and it's like

it's right in front of me which is like

an extremely psychotic View and I think

it's a wrong person I think it's a wrong

approach of viewing just from a

philosophical perspective it's a wrong

view of of how to like see life right

it's a wrong way of treating that

ambiguity but which is between you know

and in a fully formed individual and the

um another individual in this case a

mother right

and also I mean even when you're born

you're not a fully formed individual

human being you have to be an adult to

be that actually so it's like we should

pay attention to that ambiguous gray

area where it's like you're not a fully

formed human being

but you're also not it's not very clear

we can't really measure your

um life in any kind of practical way so

I think this is American pragmatism gone

wrong I think one of the explanations

for why America has such an extremely

liberal attitude and stance

um toward abortion has a lot to do with

um our well in our pragmatic tradition

first and foremost but also the you know

you a lot of people don't know this but

it really is the history of the

relationship between the Progressive

Movement and eugenics

it the key word yeah Eugenics really is

the reason why I mean I don't really

know how to explain it to you in any

other kind of way but the reason America

has such a liberal view of abortion

compared to like any other country in

the world

is because of are eugenic tradition are

eugenic progressive to tradition right

and If you deny that you're just

completely

um like that's just incompletely a

historical stance right

um

I'm not a particularly sentimental

person

um and I I don't really I don't think I

have the answer for like when when

should abortion be okay then it's not

that I'm offering an answer for that

specifically from a communist

perspective all I can do really from a

communist perspective is tell you what

would be a correct versus incorrect

framing of the issue so when you start

framing this issue in terms of

um my body my choice you are you are

just not a communist that's not a way a

communist would be approaching this a

communist doesn't view life as just an

individual matter okay that's just like

that's so fun it's so ridiculous how

so-called Communists in the United

States and the Communist Party in

particular are adopting is like

blatantly like metaphysically liberal

line that oh it's my body my choice well

no that's that's not how it works from a

communist perspective like that's such

an extremely liberal individualistic

perspective like do you actually think

that's how you think in the USSR or

China you didn't have to work oh it's my

body my choice no these things are um

subject to social consideration they're

not just things we completely leave up

to the individual we're social beings we

live in a you know as as the famous

um Joker has said we do live in a

fucking society we don't live in vacuums

so no it's not your body your choice

that's just not true I mean you you

um

you like we don't exist isolated in a

vacuum from one another to the like the

way life

it the way human lives are produced

is socially it takes two to tango you

understand and

I mean like beyond that it's the wider

context of how interactions between

people specifically genders are

um regulated not just by explicit laws

or whatever but like mores that that

comes to be and it comes to happen so no

this is not just an individual uh

question it's not just an individual

question or an individual matter so

without even giving any particular take

yet about the whole abortion issue or

anything like that I just want to really

stress here

and really go out of my way to like get

home and Hammer home that when you frame

this and turn like no Communists do not

believe in my body my choice

and I can give you ample historical

examples of that by the way because no

matter how the abortion issue was being

framed

historically speaking within Communist

States and um

whether it's the early Soviet Union or

China or anywhere else it was always

framed in a social way it was always

framed in in terms of how do we take

into consideration a social implications

of this fact it was not it framed as a

question of the rights and Liberties of

individuals okay so it doesn't matter

where you side in the debate this debate

was never framed on individual terms

period okay

um

no this is not a particularly extreme

position America has a very extreme

position on the question of abortion and

if you want me to prove it to you I mean

just again look no further than the

following map

it's pretty fucking clear that the US is

a outlier compared to like every other

fucking country right

it's pretty clear that

every other country has based a more of

course Communists don't believe in my

body my choice how can you believe in my

body my choice when you don't even

believe in property thank you quoting

Jesus for the five and yeah I mean you

do have a point

yeah I mean that should be common sense

it should really be common sense my body

my choice is total bullshit okay

now so that this should be an easy issue

then right yeah I do think so but I want

to give some justice to the other side

of the aisle and the other side of the

argument because I do think there's some

you know uh I do think there's um

truth to people who are going to push

back on this because they're gonna say

all right Haws

but we live in an individualistic

free-market Society where there's no

social protections it's a doggy dog

world nobody takes care of you so let me

Caleb my goddamn baby Haas

and

I do want to say to be clear that

it's a two-way street so if the question

of conception

is going to be a social matter and it's

going to have to be something that's be

it's given social consideration then

the needs and the um

the necessities of motherhood and the

struggles that mothers go through

that is also something that has to be

subjected to social consideration as

well you can't have the wild west

attitude of dog eat dog while at the

same time and I think that's why it's an

issue in America as well beyond the

history of eugenics and progressivism I

also think it has to do with the fact

that we are this wild west

hyper-individualistic kind of society

where you know we really are all on

their own so when people see that you're

being thrown out on the street and

you're all out on your own there's no

social protections for motherhood

mothers aren't given any special

consideration for jobs or anything like

that it's a free market doggy dog all of

a sudden the state is going to come and

intervene and then say you know when and

where like it's going to restrict your

ability to have fucking abortions that

you know I I I understand why that

outrages people I understand why that's

a source of grievance

but it is inappropriate for Communists

to be responding to that contradiction

by doubling down on the pro-abortion

stance and be like okay so that means

we're going to support abortion rights

no that means we should buckle down

and focus on

the issue of the rights of mothers we

should focus more on you know uh having

a more social society when it comes to

protecting the mothers of our society

and making it easier for mothers in our

society to be able to raise kids that's

what we should Double Down focusing on

we should not be giving any attention

whatsoever

um on a practical level to the abortion

issue period it's not I'm not I'm not

just saying oh it's not our business or

whatever I mean granted each culture

does have a different view of abortion

but I'm an American I live in this

culture so I can't really fence it on

the issue but you know with that being

said

I don't really think we should I think

the extremely liberal nature of

America's abortion laws are bad they are

an outlier compared to every other

fucking country on earth almost every

other country on Earth has more

restrictive laws about abortion period

like almost every other country on Earth

okay so that doesn't mean we we we as

Communists should campaign against

abortion it also doesn't mean we should

campaign for abortion it just means that

we should focus more on doing What

communists are supposed to do which is

focus on the comments of our common

social substance as a people why don't

we build a state and build a Party

Movement that

interpolates American citizens as being

part of a civilization as being part of

a common social substance where family

life and women's issues can be given

social consideration in some kind of way

where Women's issues and needs can be

recognized in a social way

that's the real stance Communists should

have on this we should be focusing on

that instead of focusing specifically on

the abortion thing

now there's another thing I really

wanted to get into here and and talk

about

which is also the vanity of the very

discourse in the first place because you

know I made some tweets about this

earlier and in case you guys didn't

fucking know

I really want to hit you can be angry at

me for saying this shit by the way you

can be like butt hurt and ass mad and

cancel me whatever the fuck you want but

you know

here's what it's going to come down to

here's really the truth of the matter

the fact of the matter that we're

dealing with right now

This is Gonna Come as a shock to you by

the way

almost nothing

you say on social media

you whether that's Twitter or YouTube

actually makes a difference when it

comes

to the laws that exist about abortion in

this country

your slogans have no relationship to

material reality whatsoever your your

hashtags and your slogans mean nothing

they mean absolutely nothing that is

actually and it's not because they're

not giving given enough attention per se

even though that is part of it like what

is it only five percent of Americans are

on Twitter women hold up half the sky

thank you quoting Jesus it's like only

like four five percent of Americans are

even on fucking Twitter or something but

beyond even beyond that

I think people don't understand really

the psychology of social media which

gives them this really weird

understanding of the relationship

between language and reality where they

somehow think that if they say something

and and they discursively give

expression to something that they're

somehow making it real or they're

somehow giving credence to that position

as a political position in reality the

fact of the matter your words mean

nothing on the internet they mean

nothing they literally have no bearing

on anything that happens in the real

world whatsoever now why is that

it's simple it's it's not just because

not enough people are paying attention

to what you're saying even though that

might be a factor it's more specifically

going to boil down to the fact

that most people don't treat what you're

saying with any degree of weight or

authority the reasons why people vote in

the ways that they do and the reasons

why decisions are made in the way that

they are

are entirely different than the

discursive rational justifications you

arrive at for your individual

ideological positions now please clip

that segment and run it back like a

thousand times because I know that was a

mouthful so let me say it again

the reasons why people actually make

political decisions in reality whether

that's voting or whether that's people

in positions of power making decisions

follow a completely different

rationality than the discursive

rationality that you use to arrive at

the conclusions you do on social media

and on the internet

in other words why people vote has

nothing to do with why you tweet in a

certain way why people vote has nothing

to do with the posts that they like on

social media in a certain way there is

no connection between those two things

whatsoever so everyone going on Twitter

trying to like mobilize this activistic

momentum it has absolutely

no relationship to reality whatsoever it

has absolutely no relationship to the

real world at all it is a purely

ideological form of copium it's a pure

form of vanity where people are trying

to inhabit this

fake version of reality to escape the

real one okay and that's also why you'll

notice on Twitter I mean wow Communists

are so prevalent on Twitter American

Communists they are so prevalent on

Twitter but you know it's like in the

real world they're nothing and there's a

reason for that because

being prominent on the Internet is very

different from having any effect in the

actual real world because the real world

obeys different laws than the

information and attention economy do and

I think that's one of the most important

insights of materialism today

that's what materialism is about social

media is just how we represent the world

right there's a big difference between

how we represent the world and what the

world actually is and we've lost sight

of this fact because we've we've bought

into this idea that the simulation of

the world is the same thing as the real

one that's like the most it's like the

ultimate form of idealism right I mean

you got people if you go on Twitter

it's a pretty common standard left this

position that all of America should be

depopulated and all lands should be

given back to the indigenous people okay

that has no bearing on anything in the

real world that has no bearing on

anything whatsoever in the real world

none

that has no that has nothing to do with

the real world at Omni we are you are so

far in the real world from even getting

free health care right free health care

is like farther away from you in the

real world than Australia is okay but on

the internet we're already living in

communism somehow

on the internet we're living in in the

The Big Rock Candy Mountain where we

could just literally invent any position

you want you know also this also

reflects on the LGBT issue oh my God on

the Internet it's it's all LGBT you know

everyone's Pro LGBT on the fucking

internet but in the real world it's a

really different story it's a really

really different story okay

so I think we should really unders take

this as the teachable moment to

recognize

that it it actually makes no fucking

difference what we say about abortion

whatsoever on the fucking internet it

makes no D it has no effect on anything

it makes no difference on anything

nothing all all it does is say what kind

of messages should we be broadcasting to

the public you're like should we be

broadcasting a message that helps the

cause of abortion it's not possible

so I'll give you the Communist party for

example right the Communist Party USA so

the Communist part of USA could very

easily be giving this stance where

they're gonna go and they're gonna be

like okay we're pro-abortion we're gonna

message to the people that were

pro-abortion guess what all that's going

to do is harm the cause of abortion it's

not going to do anything for the

Communist party but since the majority

of Americans have a really warped view

of Communism I mean they're gonna be

like okay the Communists are supporting

abortion maybe abortion's bad then right

so it's like

you have to understand you don't just

assume a position because you think it's

ideologically correct you assume a

public position because of the actual

effect the actual practical effect it's

going to have on reality right

even if you're pro-abortion there is no

fucking reason the Communist Party

should be focusing even one percent of

its effort on fighting for abortion well

has this is what people care about no

that's the shit you see on social media

there is a far cry between the shit

people actually care about in the real

world

from what you see on social media

there's it's it's Heaven and Earth and

literally Heaven and Earth that's how

much of a far cry it is okay

it is not something worth

giving a fuck about anyway and if you

want me to be honest

why should we really even care if

abortion becomes more restricted than it

is now why does America have to be the

most liberal and individualistic country

in the whole fucking world when it comes

to this issue isn't that kind of

American exceptionalism don't you

realize that's a uniquely American

pathologist just say oh yeah life is

just it doesn't exist until it's

physically separated from the woman as a

completely separate individual

completely like that's such

position right most of the world see

a psychotic point of view most of the

world recognizes the objectivity of our

common sociality they recognize the fact

that no one is just an individual we're

all part of some Community we all come

from a mother we all lived inside of our

mothers for nine months

and or less I guess but

you know we all we're not just isolated

individual atoms okay and I know the the

the sword Cuts both ways because we

should also get more social

consideration to the rights of mothers

and the issues facing mothers and I'm

not just saying that talking about

welfare I am not just talking about

welfare I am more specifically talking

about how we organize our society

how we treat people in public what we do

culturally we should take into account

the rights of mothers we should respect

the fact that mothers are uniquely

deserving of extra respect you know I

see this bullshit all the time on social

media where people are like well you

chose to have a child and I didn't why

should we be penalized for your choice

to be a mother motherfucker that is

where human beings come from that is

literally how we reproduce ourselves as

a society that is literally where we

come from as human beings of course

mothers should deserve extra protections

and in general extra respect

then people who are not mothers whether

you're a man or a woman

what kind of fucking psychotic

individualistic Society are we living in

where we say oh mother well if you're a

mother you just chose to have it no one

forced you to have a a child what do you

mean no one forced you to have a fucking

child that's which that's where everyone

comes from of course there needs to be

mothers it's a need

and by the way that was the view in the

Soviet Union that's why abortion was

banned in the Soviet Union too by the

way because the reproduction of life was

taken to be a social necessity we need

more human beings we need people to um

produce more human beings if if we don't

have more human beings on Earth we will

dwindle out and die we're facing a

demographic crisis

in the whole so-called developed world

and also China's dealing with its own

thing as well but I think they're going

to have a way better time dealing with

that you know where and by demographic I

don't mean uh ethnically or in case

someone wants to say I'm doing a dog

whistle I'm saying just in terms of the

number of fucking people if we want to

exist as a fucking society we do need to

promote

the birth of human beings we need a pro

let me just say this I'm not necessarily

first of all

I don't believe in criminalizing women

who get abortions I don't believe in

that right I don't believe in putting

them in jail or criminalizing them or

treating them like criminals that's my

personal view right

that's just my personal view but in a

sense and then there's people are going

to latch on to this and use it against

me I really don't give a fuck because

people are gonna be like oh my God Haas

just admitted it

you're going to take away all the Nuance

from it thank you Teresa so much

appreciate it five percent of abortions

within the USSR were predominantly based

on medical reasons tuberculosis heart

problems less than 20 were for social

and structural reasons yeah compared to

U.S with 74 being due to yeah the U.S 74

of abortions are for convenience that's

fucking crazy that's actually insane

it's not that there's an ex the huge

conservative fascist agenda in this

country it's tipped on the other side

the liberal side I mean in an extreme

way compared to

any country on Earth pretty almost not I

don't know if any but almost any fucking

country on earth right

and you know I know Luna oy the

bullshitter is going out and saying well

Vietnam has really proud shut the fuck

up lunaway you're full of shit literally

shut the fuck up with your revisionist

ass bullshit because Vietnam is the

fucking exception are you gonna go ahead

and say Laos

is is an illegitimate fascist State

Illinois are you going to go ahead and

say Cuba which has more restrictive

views of abortion than the US does are

you gonna say that fucking um China

and other and North Korea are Fascist

illegitimate anti-woman States I mean in

North Korea yeah abortions like outlawed

unless it's a danger to the woman's life

or health

so it's like how are you gonna sit here

and say that it's a Nazi position to be

pro-life

holy fuck

um Jeff Harvey thank you so much for

that honor appreciate you man

but yeah anyway what I'm trying to say

here guys is that

you can't fucking sit here and and act

like um

I'm taking an extreme I'm taking a very

liberal position here honestly because I

think the normal position around the

world is pretty much

pro-life literally it's pro-life

America's the one exception that has

this bizarre and Sweden as well uh and a

few other handful of countries but this

idea I mean like Colombian but it's like

yeah we're gonna be pro-choice no

motherfucker we're supposed to be

pro-life

and as a matter of fact I am pro-life I

am pro-life I am genuinely pro-life what

kind of communist is not pro-life I mean

you call yourself a fucking communist

and not a liberal and you're saying

between the phrases pro-choice and

pro-life your pro-individual choice how

are you a fucking communist whatsoever

that doesn't make any fucking sense at

all

your pro-choice and not pro-life I mean

do you know anything about the history

of Communism at all do you know anything

about that you know anything that

happened in the history of Communism you

know what the USSR stands you know what

China stands I mean it's like nobody has

this crazy fucking psychotic idea that

we should just be a society of abortions

where people just get a fucking abortion

because they feel like it I mean first

of all that is psychotic

right now you're going to say Haas

you're a religious reaction and no I'm

not because I'm not against

contraception other forms of

contraception like I'm not against the

morning after pill I'm not against

condoms I'm not against yeah you know uh

what else do people fucking use I don't

know

the the the scheduling that I guess

doesn't really count as uh contraception

but

you know I'm not I'm not against other

forms of birth control

yeah the patches that's one I'm not

against birth control it's just uh yeah

I'm not against pulling out either right

I don't I don't you know there's some

people who are like

China is liberal on abortions I believe

thank you quoting Jesus they're not as

liberal as the U.S

I think some regions of China have a

liberal culture on abortion so I'll

grant you that I did hear about that

from some travel vlogger but I looked up

Chinese law and China does have a more

restrictive stance on abortion

to the United States

and yeah they've started to be way more

restrictive recently as well because

they're having a way more pro-life

pro-family policy within China

um so no this doesn't come from

religious fanaticism the USSR was

officially a it had official state

atheism

under Stalin and they banned abortion

because you can still be you can still

have a minimal sense of the fact that

you know we it's not really in our

position to decide when life does and

doesn't

um start

oh it's just a clump of cells has see

that's where you really lose me because

you're like oh this is the clump of

cells really it's just a clump of cells

shut the fuck up that's a gray area

where a literal human being is being

born

out of

out of matter right it's like a literal

human being is taking form

now it's not a fully formed human being

but neither is a child right so you're

really losing with that dumbass it's a

clump of cells Hogs it has no

consciousness motherfuck you don't even

know what Consciousness is what is

consciousness we don't know any of these

things so at the very minimum we should

all agree that we want less abortions in

society I don't care where you stand on

the issue

we should all agree there should be less

abort we should aim for a society where

there needs to be less abortions right

and the reason I'm gonna respect the

other side especially women who are

coming from the other side of the

perspective is it's like you know

we're not a society that makes it easy

to raise a child we're not it's not easy

to raise children in this Society

um

and I understand that I do understand

that uh but you should all at least

recognize it's a tragic you need a

doctor's note just to get a morning

after pale it's easier to go to Shenzhen

than get a doctor to prescribe the pill

yeah thank you coding juice but I'm not

against the morning after pill I'm I'm

just against uh

it's not even that I'm against abortion

per se it's that I'm against the

philosophy of abortion I'm against the

idea that it's my body my choice that's

what I'm fucking against I think that's

stupid no it's not true right and

I'm gonna say another crazy thing I

don't think the state should intervene

in people's sex lives in any way

period but

yeah the way in which human beings uh

like re like engage in the physical act

of conception

um that is a social

that is something that's social right

but that's cultural it's not like a

political thing that the state is going

to make laws about but we do have a

culture regulating it we do have like a

culture of like hey if you're getting

dicked down by fucking 18 men in one

night that's not something we we look

upon favorably and I don't I don't give

a fuck call me misogynist I don't give a

shit

there's a reason why we we look down on

that shit there's a reason why

culturally speaking

like unconsciously speaking

we look down on the choo choo trains you

understand the choo-choo trains we just

looked down on them you understand

there's a reason for that and no it's

not because of a patriarchal conspiracy

all right

College culture don't care I mean well

it's all context dependent it's context

dependent but like yeah

everyone cares bro I mean

College dudes don't care because why

would they right

but if you think that they're gonna

marry somebody who's uh you know

Thomas the Tank Engine or any yeah I'm

sorry but you got another thing coming

that's just not how dudes I mean you

gotta I don't know who to see that's I

think a lot of people are uneducated I

think a lot of people are uneducated got

the wrong idea about how that kind of

shit works but

thank you so much Johnny appreciate you

appreciate you

but uh yeah I mean almost everything it

has some social aspect and I mean

directly I don't mean necessarily

discursive like we all have to talk

about it and butt into each other's

business I'm just saying it's like it

follows social laws whether they're

unconscious or otherwise right and

that's something

if we live in a civilization we

shouldn't see that as some kind of

encroachment on our individual liberties

we should just recognize that we as the

Joker has said we live in a fucking

society right but I'm saying we can't

act that way yet

which is why we shouldn't be judgmental

as Communists because we do live in a

dog eats dog uncivilized type of country

where people are just thrown out on the

fucking Street and there's no nobody

cares about families no one cares about

supporting mothers nobody cares about

protecting mothers we don't even have a

culture of respecting mothers I saw this

like post

I think it was on Twitter and it was

like there was like um

there was like this like uh young woman

who she was like I don't know she like

cut in line of like a woman a mother who

was like taking her baby to Disneyland

and she like cut in line to get like

candy corn or some shit and then the

mother was like what the fuck

I should be more prioritized because

like I literally have a child and I'm

trying to do this for my child and

you're literally an adult and then

everyone on social media was like yeah

fuck that old bitch that's her fault for

having a child fuck her and I was like

wait a fucking second that's a little

backward like

what do you mean like that's where human

beings come from you're not gonna have a

society that respects mothers why

wouldn't we have a society

that respects mothers and prioritizes I

mean like

so what you're saying is if uh

okay I'm gonna tell you guys something

this is the this is really nasty thing

to say it's harsh but it's the truth if

there's a person getting mugged or

robbed and then there's a mother getting

mugged or robbed I'm gonna go rush to

help the mother

you know if there's two adults one is a

mother one is not a mother regardless of

their gender they're not a mother and

both are in danger you gotta you think

I'm gonna flip a fucking coin of course

I'm gonna rush and go save the mother

mothers are where human beings come from

without mothers we're nothing we come

from nothing

and without mothers

you know you turn into a fucked up uh

monster right you turn into a uh you

turn into a Chaz Anarchist you don't

have mothers

so you want to look at a society without

mothers look at Chaz and go look at that

Chad's mug shot by the way and see if

you want to live in that type of society

see if you want to go live

in that type of society you know

y'all you know a lot of people are

always going feminism feminism this

feminism that

um

and I really don't give a fuck

personally one way or another

but I do find it strange how

like mothers fulfill such an important

role

for human beings that's understanding it

they are where human beings come from

and leftists like have this view of that

oh if you're a mother that was your

choice don't make me pay for your choice

damn motherfucker like

it's a very individualistic view of life

so a human view of Life says as a human

being I don't just serve myself I serve

my community I serve my country as

whatever the fuck you want right

so that is going to give you a view

where you're gonna be like

a mother is

that you're gonna hold them in a very

high regard right

you're not going to look at it in terms

of individual choices you're going to

have a more um holistic view of the

community in a society where you're

gonna say you know we um as a society

need to reproduce ourselves we need to

exist

shied away from that passion you under

Stalin they made a very conscious policy

that they wanted to increase the

population of human beings they wanted

to increase the number of human beings

and they made that a state policy that

like we're going to promote life we're

going to promote

more people being born

you're like oh my God that's completely

uh out of pocket that's again that

violates individual liberty no it

doesn't motherfucker that is a social

concern motherfucker you call yourself a

communist you literally call yourself a

socialist and a communist and yet you

have the most radically and I mean by

radical like psychotically

individualistic view of the relationship

between individuals

and life and societies it's actually

fucking crazy

it's actually fucking crazy

to be clear

everyone's gonna take me out of context

I don't care suck my dick to be clear

and I'm being as crystal clear as I

could possibly fucking be right now

communists

should not

campaign against abortion

we should not

we shouldn't be using our time to be

against abortion because it's

hypocritical I agree with the feminists

when they say that it's hypocritical

because we don't support mothers and

artists so we should focus on supporting

mothers and having a more uh social

civilization before we can open our

mouths against abortion but with that

being said with that being said

if something is going to happen that's

totally out of our hands like the

repealing of Roe v Wade

and America is going to have to take a

more restrictive stance

on abortions

let's not be assured about it let's just

not

bitch and whine about it let's not you

know condemn it or be like this is the

biggest operation this is worse than 9

11.

let's focus on What communists should be

doing let's just focus on our struggle

let's just all of this shit is happening

in the background we have no control

over it there is no way we are going to

materially influence it or affect it in

any kind of fucking way let's focus on

building our party our organization

let's focus on having a working class

movement of really organizing the

working class I don't mean that in terms

of graduate student unions by the way I

mean really organizing workers

politically

let's keep Fielding candidates

let's not issue a stance on abortion

okay with that being said if our society

decides to take

a less liberal view of abortion

something we have no control over let's

accept it I mean I accept it if we just

start restricting abortions more

let's just accept it okay because you

can't do anything about it either way so

just accept it but how are you saying

that as a man it doesn't affect you

bitch then tell him to pull out or wear

a fucking condom I don't know what to

tell you I really don't know what to

tell you know

if you're gonna take this personally

and this issue is personal to you

and you you fear that in the future

you're not going to be able to get an

abortion I am telling you

to practice safe sex that's my advice to

you

have your man wear a condom

or have him pull out

or take the the morning after pill what

I've just be resp you know I don't know

what to tell you it's like you're making

this personal and you're making it an

individual thing even though you have no

control over it

like like oh you're preventing me from

getting an abortion I'm not preventing

you from doing shit

I am not preventing you from doing shit

I don't have any control over this issue

and if someone forced me to make a

decision about this I would defer the

decision to like a vote I wouldn't I

would not make an executive decision

about this issue because I don't think

it's in my power right

I'm not a fucking doctor I don't know

how this shit works I would if I had to

make a decision myself I'd probably be

like man what does most of the world do

let's just go with what most of the

world does right because that's the

easiest decision to make but honestly

I'm telling you that the the Communist

Party should not be prioritizing as

bullshit and I don't think that's such

an extreme fucking thing to say why

should the Communist Party be

prioritizing this

when we we will never make we won't make

any difference on it at all whatsoever

okay so I'm actually going to

um

bring on some callers who might want to

object to what I'm saying because I

understand

that you know

the baby

all right

I can't do anything about it okay

but let's go ahead and bring these bring

these people on so

I'm gonna have the shiz

Adam as a speaker go ahead speak your

business

yeah hello

hello I'm waiting for you

hello

God damn Helen Keller man God damn bro

can you say something

this happens every fucking time

uh hello

say something

say something like I didn't really want

to talk about abortion I was just

listened to you and I was just gonna ask

you a couple questions about

Who You Are

just because I've been following you for

a little bit

all right so what do you want to ask

um well I didn't know you were a

communist but I just first started

following you because you were you got

into some fights or something with like

I think

Destiny and Vash maybe or something I

can't remember exactly but I just want

to say it's just weird that there's like

some leftists who actually speak out

against

like what all other leftists say so I

guess I wanted to compliment you

for being cool like you know people like

Jackson Winkle I think his name is and

like Jimmy Dore and Glenn Greenwald and

stuff but um all right thank you thank

you for sucking my nuts

and

we're looking for people to push back on

the abortion issue because I'm saying

America has a very extreme issue when it

comes to abortion okay

and all leftists are saying America is

too conservative I'm saying they're very

extreme compared to every other country

on Earth so anybody want to contest that

view and push back on that I don't think

anybody does because you know most

people agree with me after being

confronted with the evidence I think

most people actually I don't think

anyone would really disagree with this I

can't fathom or imagine anyone would

disagree with it actually like when you

found out

that America is extremely extremely

liberal when it comes to the abortion

issue I don't really think anyone can

like

but like what could anyone say how why

is it that Communists should be

pro-choice

where does it say in the wait look when

have Communists ever been pro-choice

they tried to say that the Soviet Union

was the first country to live on it's

not true it's a complete fucking myth

or at best it's a misrepresentation of

what actually fucking happened

and even if what they said was true

which it's not

the whole debate they were having about

abortion had nothing to do with the

issue of choice choice was never a

factor in the debate at all nobody

looked at it from the perspective of

Liberty and choice they looked at it

from the perspective like harm reduction

and that kind of shit not Choice okay

could anyone argue that it's American

culture that's so individualistic and

pro-choice yeah but it's like this is

the Paradox this is where americanism

becomes too much too extreme because

it's like now

we are applying our crazy individualism

to the origins of life itself and saying

you know what I mean it's like it's it's

Insanity it's like we're applying that

to the origin of life itself

we're saying that the very

origin of life

we're basically saying life doesn't

exist until it's a separate individual

that's like crazy

that's that's like violates

the laws of nature itself we're saying

life does not begin

until it's separate from an individual

that is actually the most like deranged

form of like anti-nature individualism

is our brand of American individualism

not our tradition

this is but this is a case where this

individualism is taking weight it's

taken so far that it like become it's

like a snake eating its own tail like

before we can have individualism we have

to acknowledge that there are certain

premises and conditions of individuals

including the biological ones right

so it's almost like this is like like a

cannibalism of American individualism or

we're taking it so extreme that we're

trying to like deny nature itself and

now we have people who are saying shit

like oh um

the fact that we even have to the fact

that um the way in which we're born you

know there's a famous American

the South once

who's that guy in the 40s who said

the number one Promethean shame of

individuals

is that we are born and not manufactured

that is the American mentality Americans

consider it this like Promethean shame

that as human beings

we have to be born we're not

manufactured in this Industrial Way we

actually have to be born some kind of

natural way right

so it's like

we should be self you know being

American Communists doesn't mean we're

not going to be self-critical

about the nature of this country right

but uh I just find it Well I'm not I

don't really take an extreme issue I

mean take an extreme position on this

but like the response to the Supreme

Court decisions are so fucking extreme

they're like yeah it's the end of the

world

women are gonna be in the handmade and

tail because we're gonna have the same

abortion laws as friends

it's gonna be the handmaiden's tale

because women are gonna have the same

laws

that's Germany oh no Germany it's the

world like come on

don't you realize American abortion law

is so fucking extreme

don't you realize it's the extreme and

it's not the norm compared to the rest

of the fucking world

everyone grab the pink hatch Garden

protest it's the hour

I don't buy that this is a woman's issue

like that like this is just women acting

upon their own natural self-interest to

lose their shit over this I think this

is a progressive eugenic issue I think

these are the Eugenics crowd and

that it does include many women but

it also includes many men that's the

truth because a lot of women are mothers

a lot of women also are prospective

mothers and they don't only see women's

issues as choice they also see it based

on the uniquely women's issues that men

don't have

so

you know this whole thing of people

losing their fucking oh my God

it's literally like

they don't have the same abortion laws

actually

just fucking chill

God damn chill you know

but people you know you know what's

crazy about the current political

climate in the United States

and it's crazy how the Communist Party

feeds into this bullshit right

what's crazy about the current climate

is the way in which like the smallest

changes

make people lose their shit every time

Trump would fart it was the end of the

world every time the slightest

perception

of an encroachment on

you know the progressive cause is every

time they catch wind of the slightest

encroachment on the gains of the

progressive cause the so-called gains of

the progressive cause everybody loses

their fucking mind and we get held to an

extreme

liberal Progressive standard that is

like on nowhere else on the fucking

planet

like the reaction to the conservative

legislation all that kind of shit

has the mainstream adopt a position that

is like so it's so extreme compared to

the rest of the world it's actually

fucking insane you know it's Madness

it's pure Madness and then you know

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people talk about I mean what country

started the the uh the gender issue huh

America did

when our so-called Communists gonna

accept

that they're not actually Communists

they're just americanist ideologists and

Luna oi the fraud lives in Vietnam so

first of all Vietnam is an extremely

pro-american country it's a it's a it's

the most Americanized communist country

in the world

but if that wasn't enough she's married

to a Portland Oregon anarchist-american

man

so no she doesn't fucking represent it

she's an American Colonial subject is

what she ought she is

right

Luna oi is not a speaker for

international communism she's a goddamn

American vessel

she's an American visa Viceroy that's

what she is she's an American

and I'm an American too

but Luna oi has no more weight in terms

of her identity

than Candace Owens

but I like Candace Owens and that's the

difference

and everybody oh Hakeem what about

Hakeem Hakeem isn't even Iraqi he lives

in fucking that motherfucker lives in

Idaho and he's probably not even Arab

Hakeem a white boy pretending to be era

and can I prove it no but I got a hunch

I got a hunch he's faking it I got a

hunch he's full of shit and some have

proven some have claimed to have proof

some claim to have proof of that

so all these fake International mLs are

actually just Americans

think about it this dude about team

the most that could be the case he's in

the UK for education but he's Iraqi but

why does he have an American accent

why is he American

he's American Hakeem American Luna oi

American they're all Americans

and they try to use their International

repertoire as a source of authority

all fucking bullshit it's complete

bullshit it's completely made up it's

completely fraudulent

and I have no there's no reason anyone

should accept that there's no reason

anyone should take it seriously or

accept that point blank and period okay

now

you want to talk about oh hi isn't this

about women's bodily autonomy

motherfucker what does that mean what do

you mean bodily autonomy

guys this is the right of women to have

a train run on them okay you do have

that right

you do have that right

now it shouldn't be encouraged I don't

think but you do have you shouldn't you

know be put in jail for that but

so what you mean bodily autonomy oh

you're talking about when you're

carrying another life well sorry that is

not just your own

body at that point I'm just sorry that's

the messy origins of life

I don't know how to explain that to

people it's so satanic

how progressives are like so rabid about

this thing this is such a liberal

fucking country I mean this is a country

where you could just

we're way more liberal even than Europe

we just you can you fucking have an orgy

on crystal meth

and you know you can you could you could

do whatever the fuck you want on this

coach you can have an orgy on crystal

meth and you can run a train on your

grandma with 15 other people

and 25 other women

like you could do anything you want in

this fucking country you could literally

do anything anything you fucking want

and the one time that people are saying

no there's gonna be one restriction and

which means you can't kill the babies

out

what the fuck is wrong with this satanic

ass progressives of this country it's

like they want everything

you can literally do anything in this

country but the one thing you'd say

don't kill the damn babies

and they'd lose their damn mind like

they're holy shit

go ahead and add Ryan

go ahead Ryan

he's a male feminist

go ahead and speak

hey can you hear me I can hear you

so I was curious as far as like a

pragmatic perspective as far as policy

in the U.S specifically typically

polling shows pretty large support even

on both sides of the sides of the aisle

as far as support for

pro-choice as a policy

would it make sense to at least somewhat

tacitly endorse it as far as support for

the

widespread throughout the American

people about how Eugenics

um check out Margaret if that's true why

are people losing their minds over Roe v

Wade

well because the majority of Americans

think it it should stay

something like 60 or 70 percent last

time I stopped bowling no that's the

issue then

they think that Rosary wave should

shouldn't be overturned

the issue is that a lot of states are

going to be far more by trust that

polling data

um

I'm not really convinced by it to be

honest it just doesn't sound realistic

to me second of all

I mean Roe v Wade if you don't know what

it is it just gives it to the states to

decide right so what you're saying yes

we're overturning Roe v Wade puts it to

the states yeah which is reality that

we're entering I know that's what I said

oh sorry but I thought I heard that you

said where we wait dates Roe v Wade

being overturned refers to the stage so

what's the problem if the majority of

Americans want pro-choice

then

they're 17 or so I think states that

already have laws on the books that will

immediately on triggering of Roe v Wade

being overturned would essentially

illegalize abortion

when we were looking at that map earlier

I found a little distance I feel like

we're framing it from a perspective

prior to this decision but post this

decision that map would look way

different as far as the US for a whole

large number of states I know that's

what I was trying to say like we haven't

expressed before the overturning of Roe

v Wade we have an extremely liberal and

individualistic policy compared to the

rest of the world as far as our attitude

to abortion we have this idea that it's

just my body my choice and it's like no

one else in the world looks at it that

way

well so Roe v Wade put a baseline that

would that's not as

liberal as some other countries but then

individual states did have the option to

you know allow them most of the states

if you look at the map in the U.S

overwhelmingly have an extremely liberal

policy

thank you so much

yeah but I mean and then China had as

liberal policy up until 2021 until they

decided they needed to happen

I guess isn't really a moral argument or

any arguments being made for the U.S so

I don't know how relevant that is that

goes and so the Chinese never viewed it

as an individualistic my body my choice

type of issue

foreign

type of

no I think more pragmatically I don't

really see it as my body my choice and I

look at it more more of an outcome thing

as far as societal outcomes especially

with how our our other social policies

are in the US it's I mean I I foresee

some serious issues with

mortality rate of mothers with

huge like even more burden of awful

Foster Care Systems like the problem

with repealing it in the way they were

doing it is I feel like it's putting a

whole lot of

evolution argument the minute you say

you know oh Foster I don't have that

view of a lot I think life is good I

think more lives is good I think I don't

think lives are should should be seen as

a burden

foreign

I don't know that I see that live should

be as seen as a burden I'm just saying

that I feel like a lot of the reason

behind it is that it we end up with

better social outcomes by allowing it in

the not even not saying laissez-faire

hey you can abort you know your

eight-month-old baby I think that's

ridiculous but like having it allowed up

to a certain period you know I'm not a

scientist I'm not going to say when life

begins but I feel like the like 14 week

gestation period is is a pretty

reasonable one

Europeans allow abortion up to a certain

point

but it's more yeah that'd be cool I

think we should codify that nationally I

think that would yeah be supported by a

majority of America as it exists right

now Most states have a much more liberal

policy even than Europe

and some states have no

limit to the to when you can have an

abortion

that seems far-fetched I'd have to look

at those specific dates I if this does

no codified gestational I'm assuming

there's some sort of like other limit so

there's like a codified uh gestational

limit in

Oregon

and Alaska I saw a couple of them or

Colorado those have no gestation limit

also uh Vermont

and New Jersey I believe New Jersey yeah

they have no without looking up the law

on it

do you think that means they can abort

like a eight-month-old fetus like about

me because I'm pretty sure that's not

the case but I don't know for sure it

seems perfect no limit so I think that's

what it means a bit more gestational

women are there different women is it

like a Wi-Fi ability limit is it like I

don't know what the different limit it

seems for good I don't know for sure I

don't wanna

I'm pretty sure our states have it after

the first 17 weeks

whereas most of Europe

has it with uh within the first 17 weeks

which is pretty Broad

to be fair but you know

and then other countries you know like

the UK has a pretty restrictive policy

finland's got a pretty restrictive

policy and then you know when you go

beyond that it's like the rest of the

world is just very restrictive compared

to

and most of the world

at the map though almost every

relatively developed country has not

that restrictive policies they all have

a gestational limit but comparison to um

allowing it for social reasons

is facing demographic crisis and you

know which also culturally are way

looser you know when it comes to pretty

much everything

so

yeah that's pretty fair I think my main

point I wanted to bring up was just that

from what I've read

most Americans do support the allowance

of abortions to some degree now that

that is where that line is drawn is I

think the only purposes in the world

where there's no abortions at all

that's this very small minority of the

amount of countries I mean even even

some even Saudi Arabia has certain

circumstances where you can have

abortions right even you know

even fucking Somalia I mean you can name

it whatever you mean even Afghanistan

has some

sir I don't know if that changed now but

you know Pakistan I mean you look at

these very religiously conservative

countries and they still have

circumstances in which it's allowed

so I I think that's Americans just have

this crazy idea like there's not really

a debate about none whatsoever

that I can see because

that's just unreasonable compared to

what most people most of the people who

aren't pro-choice specifically are

they're either pro-choice to some degree

or they're zero choice

like absolute should be good I don't

feel like the problem is how it's Being

Framed in terms of choice it's not about

Choice it's about you know is there is

there for most most places in the world

determined based on is there a danger to

health or is there an undesired like see

the the fetus have like um disabilities

or is it dangerous to the mother's

health is it dangerous to the you know

is it is it some kind of reason why this

should happen and then when you

go it's more liberal they're going to be

like okay

is this within the first uh seven is

this within a certain time frame in

which we're not going to consider this

to be like a more formed

life form and then America is just like

almost the most liberal on the whole

fucking world right where there we have

some states that are literally like yeah

there's no gestation limit at all like

okay

I I would agree that I don't think there

should be notification I think there

definitely should be a cut off point I I

think it should be allowed a hundred

percent

up to I I want to say because I I don't

I don't know enough about the science of

State like a cut-off point but okay

because we can't control but I think the

biggest thing we need to focus on is the

reason we I think we really need it in

the US specifically

is a lack of social programs and and

safety nets there's so little support

for motherhood

as an individual you cannot

affect abortion but you can probably

work

you're in the Communist party for

example to build a party that can

increase social support for mothers and

things like that like why not focus on

that instead of the abortion thing

I feel we really need both to a degree

and maybe not abortion because here's my

problem

here's my problem with being pro here's

my problem with fighting for abortion

rights in Practical reality it's it

really means detracting from building an

independent party to just like joining

the Democrats and just tailing behind

the Democrats because in reality the

only people who are going to affect the

abortion thing it is going to be the

Democrats and if you're going to

literally use your time to spend it on

abortion you're gonna have to be using

your time to help Democrats and that's

that's that's just the fact of the

matter like

this is this is not even so much an

abortion issue is as much as it's about

like are you gonna focus on building our

Communist party or are you going to be a

Democrat and vote for Biden it's like

that simple

I mean I I definitely see where we see

where you're coming from that as far as

like the meat and potatoes side of it I

think part of it though if you're

framing it that way is that that we need

like a specifically a Communist party in

America

everyone's going to expect you to have a

stance on this issue like I I don't know

what to say like maybe just be be

ambiguous about it but like if you want

to have a separate party and you're not

tied to one of the two that have the

obvious stance at this I feel like

there's going to be some pressure to be

at least one way or the other like hey

yes but with pretty tight restrictions

around like timing I think we should

make this a um

this is not going to be a wedge issue

around which you're actually going to

get communist militants and supporters

of the party a lot of people say oh if

we Sega Pro Choice side then women will

support us okay first of all like

there's not just a group out there

that's just called women okay women are

50 of all people pretty much so that's

very much divided on all sorts of lines

and

you know the the people who are the most

fanatical about abortion are going to be

supporting the people who can actually

make a difference about that issue which

is going to be the Democrats or it's

going to be the Republicans if that's

all they care about is abortion they're

not going to support the Communist party

it's so the Communist Party not

really having a stance on this

um I think the Communist Party should

have a stance and this is what it stance

should be we should make a society for

mothers that is more supportive of

mothers it's more and it's better to

have kids in this Society I think there

has to be a pronatalist stance one

thousand percent but depending on where

you are you shouldn't assume a partisan

issue like if you're living in a blue

State you shouldn't be like okay we want

to restrict abortion

um you shouldn't say that at least or if

you're in a red State you shouldn't say

um we want to be pro-choice just focus

on our pronatalist line and make the

abortion thing in the background because

that's a wedge issue that is that only

the two major parties benefit from

I can't really see a good way as a as a

breakout party to Super benefit from it

as a wedge issue that makes sense I

actually really like that framing I

because I mean most of the appeal I feel

like of the modern Communist party is is

programs like

pronatalist stances and policies around

that I think those are really important

for us as a country and some of the

places where we really let down

our entire citizens citizenry the most

like

it does piss me off seeing Republicans

rail so hard against it while also I

know that they

um

completely object to any of the policies

that would actually be pronatalist

that that's my biggest frustration I

think with the whole situation the

people who want to restrict this are

also the people who

never support policies that help

make any of the problems that abortion

actually does kind of Band-Aid because

our society sucks as far as taking care

of their people foreign

what I'm trying to say here is that

what we should especially be doing is

making a pro mother's Communist party

you look at the Communist party on his

fucking website when does it does it

really talk about mothers as much as it

talks I mean they're focusing more on

the whole

yeah let's uh I mean they say women

women okay be more specific because

that's 50 of people well with Haas we

don't live in a backward country where

like women are um

like somehow

relegated to the same status they were

in pre-communist China where fucking the

tsarist Russia now women do still face a

lot of real issues

but I don't see any of those issues get

discussed by the Communist Party what

about domestic violence that's a huge

issue

there's all sorts of issues women face

that the Communist party don't talk

about they don't talk about that shit

right they don't talk about the issues

mothers face they what are they what

does the Communist Party talk about they

talk about fucking

um Trump's saying grab him by the pussy

that's not really an issue that's a

cultural thing

you're not going to change people's

culture

um

as a Communist party so what like what

specifically I mean y'all remember the

women's March

was that really just because Trump said

grab him by the pussy I'm like what was

the fucking reason for that what did

Trump do against women

I'm open to hearing it but I'm a dude I

don't know any of this thing so go I'm

open to hearing what Trump did against

women besides the grab them by the pussy

remark

which it I will admit

was a very bizarre remark and disturbing

remark however

in terms of things that make a

difference

what did he do against women

specifically

all right because I don't know

I've never I didn't hear nothing I've

never heard anything

so maybe this person will tell me what

Trump did against women

go ahead

go ahead and speak

uh yeah Trump was like literally on

Epstein's plane like him and Epstein

were like Good Buddies

I don't know what the fuck you're

talking about with that okay so what

policies was he passing against women

that's it thank you

no what do you mean that's it what what

what threat did Trump pose to women

as a as a president and then I didn't

say Trump was a model

feminist man in his personal life

I'm asking because he was the president

there was this huge women's March and

it was all about women it was that just

cultural was there any actual real

women's issues

that that March was about or was it just

basically saying like yeah the

grab him by the

I mean okay

that something a communist should care

about to make a movement over

uh I don't I don't know if you heard me

the first time but I said Trump was on

hey that's something in his personal

life what does that have to do with the

political aspect personal dude what are

you fucking kidding me

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yeah

you can you can abstract uh going on

like sir the world sir I'm mad you're

mad I'm asking about politics yeah he

was a skunk yeah with a very deeply

politically connected person yes okay he

was a scumbag in his personal life now

in terms of legislation and policy and

things that were going to affect all

women

why was Trump why was there like the

women's March go ahead

uh no I'm good I yield my time thank you

so you have nothing

you literally have nothing you can't

tell me anything

you have nothing I mean I mean if you

can excuse like the the world's like

double 07 tier like Global pedophile

Global okay I'm excusing it now

foreign

is Trump's fate up to me do I get to

choose what happens to Trump because of

his crimes personally well I mean if you

were in charge of it then clearly what

do you mean excuse by the way like what

do you mean by that do you think I have

any power over what happens to Trump

what the fuck do you mean by ex you're

extremely enough what do you mean I'm

excited you're talking about ideology

you're talking about the fact that I'm

not no I'm talking about like children

being trafficked from their parents and

like sold as sex slaves okay so how am I

excusing Trump's uh culpability in that

personally if he's guilty of that how am

I excusing them

no thank you

how am I excusing that like what do you

mean I'm excusing it

I don't have any power over bringing

Trump to justice so I mean they're the

long list of shit Trump did that I would

oh he left like a little bit exactly I

mean that's how these like crazy

literally psychotic insane lefties in

America are

Nick you're what you're really trying to

say is that I am um

not giving proper representation to how

bad Trump was but Trump wasn't just a

personal scumbag which I have no doubt

he's a bad person I've known that

nothing right he was also a political

figure and Americans seem to not be able

to understand the difference between

those two things because they think like

this is what dumb stupid fucks so many

especially American leftists are they're

like a politician is literally the the

personal it's not like they represent

something that has social political

Collective significance like they are

the individual and the personal is

political it's the same exact thing no

it's not what Trump represents for

society

is not the same thing as whatever fucked

up shit he did it you know most GOP

politicians do cocaine in the bad they

do all sorts of fucked up shit like what

a stupid deal of things

what do you mean I'm excusing it

what does that even mean

you're making it seem like I've decided

Trump goes to jail or not over it no I

don't so what do you mean I'm excusing

it I mean I want Trump to face Justice

for what he did to solomoni if you want

to ask me if you want to do a long list

of shit

I hold against him but that has no

bearing on anything because I can't do

anything about it I have no power to do

anything about that

it's like but he was really fucked up I

I already said even the grab him by the

pussy Comet was fucked up

but

that's the norm in American politics all

of the presidents are like pedos all of

them Bill Clinton was I don't know if

Obama was George Bush probably was they

all were nothing changed so when Trump

got elected there was this big woman's

March and all I'm literally asking

anyone to answer is why was there a

woman's March for what

what changed oh it's because Trump is

involved in child trafficking that all

the other presidents were too so what

changed

what actually changed go ahead Ian

maybe he can answer

go ahead Ian

I asked I I shouldn't really be

participating in this at all but I mean

the obvious response is that he uh

appointed anti-abortion uh judges he

also had a

he also had a uh what was that a

executive order in 2017

um basically Banning what was it he was

Banning uh it was an executive order

Banning the usage of any federal funds

going to the funding of abortion

um it's just all abortion

yeah it's basically all like

anti-abortion stuff like this but all

that happened after one's March so I was

like anticipating the abortion stuff

well you didn't well I mean he was

campaigning on anti-abortion politics

beforehand

um the women's March obviously don't

forget I mean Hillary Clinton was not

going to be any I mean was was was not

gonna be

more than a thumbnail more friendly to

women I I don't think your point there

is is awesome I just want to know like

of all the issues that women seem to be

facing mothers issues

um maternity domestic violence you know

some states having backward laws about

women's rights to divorce all that kind

of stuff like I mean like I mean

actually I don't know if that's the case

I just heard about it like why was the

woman okay we actually have a woman

requested so let's let's uh see what she

says

hello

hello

yeah hello oh hi

um so I wanted to speak upon what Trump

did I didn't think he did anything wrong

um that's just the distractions and

that's what shit lives use

um it's always about Trump but like upon

women's issues I agree with you that

Communists need to speak more about like

mother like because I'm a parent so like

a lot of issues they don't mention a lot

so that's what they lack of using so

it's like

um

uh especially like in like I'm in

Chicago so like they don't mention a lot

of stuff they just all like abortion

rights and abortion rights right but

they never kind of focused on like the

dangers of it they just want people to

get like abortions like nothing you know

um so I think that's like a topic that a

lot of people should take into

consideration

as a wall so I think there needs to be

like a balance and stuff like that so in

your experience as a mother has this

movement do you feel as if they kind of

they kind of make it seem like when like

mothers are more reactionary or more

backward than non-mother is like as if

being a mother means

uh you know that that's like not a

woman's issue specifically

um

at times because you know it's things

that like some people like maybe because

maybe I'm wrong but I see a lot of the

Communist movements there are a lot of

like young kids and there's nothing

wrong with it like the

um there's nothing wrong with it at all

but it's like that's always out of the

box you know it's always not part of the

issues

and

um like me you know like um I'm a single

parent you know it's one of those things

where like you know a lot of people

don't like to like look at them the

reality of it and that's in a way I

agree with like abortion because you

know sometimes you don't have choices

like I'm I'm a proletariat you know for

sure

um I'm you know the the low class and

it's like you know the Democrats or

whatever you want to call it the aocs

you know they say oh yeah like it's your

right and stuff like that

um yeah like if you're a single parent

they don't help you with any type of

assistance at all so you're off high and

dry so it's like one of those things

where like

there's no Hub in in the it was a

synthetic laughter you know the left

establishment and and the Communist

movements don't mention this a lot

because they're like those are like the

CP USA or whatever like they kind of

don't put you part of any issues you

know because it's a lot of kids which is

it I don't have nothing wrong with it

but it's mostly kids that are like

College you know universities and stuff

like that and I guess sometimes they

don't understand the issues

yeah you're definitely right about that

but you know the the leadership is also

very old and then Taryn fievec who's

been given the keys to control of the

whole party she's like 30 in her late

30s I believe her 40s so

I didn't know that you see that's the

part I didn't know about so yeah it's

like um but you know if you didn't know

they really don't talk about mothers

they don't talk about working mothers

seems like that's not an issue for them

but what isn't it one of the biggest

issues how others are not given enough

support or value in this Society

yeah most of the time they don't so like

um it's kind of we're seeing like

um kind of like um from the left from

what I've noticed they kind of see us

like uh oh poor you like we're gonna

like it's we don't want like I don't

want nobody to feel bad about me right I

just like I wish there was some more

like

um awareness of certain things of

certain issues because I'm I disagree

with abortion but I agree with abortion

like I'm in between so it's like I'm not

pro-choice or Pro like I'm in the middle

so it's like I disagree with women

getting an abortion if they're six

months pregnant you know like

um it's a high risk but in the same time

if women want to get an abortion you

know it's like when you get an abortion

it's like you know costs a lot of money

out of pocket you know and it's like

people don't get the struggles behind

that so it's like and in a way it's like

you're in the you're stuck so then like

I'll tell you some of what happened to

me because a lot of people don't know I

don't know how the state kind of

implements this but uh it's a abortion

uh crisis center so they it's part of

like when you look it up on Google you

look up like uh you know uh abortion

clinic right and then the first result

that pops up is like oh like it's a

crisis center abortion crisis clinic and

they pretend I think they pretend to be

like an abortion clinic but they aren't

so they kind of tricked you into

um going into their office

and like

um they kind of

like they kind of say oh like don't get

an abortion type thing and they're like

Christian based so I don't know how like

I want to know the the story behind like

the state how they fund them and stuff

because I don't know how that is

acceptable and I don't even know if they

still have that today because they're

like oh yeah so we're gonna help you

we're gonna set you up and blah blah

blah and it's like you know I went

forward with my pregnancy and stuff like

that and it's like at the end of the day

they didn't even help me so it's like

one of those things where like they

trick a lot of women that are in the

courses literally so I think called

pregnant uh abortion abortion crisis

centers

so I don't know why Google's doing this

or like you know big Tech I guess is

behind it but they they trick women and

they lie to us saying it's an abortion

clinic when it really isn't and it's and

it's in like the blue states too so I

don't know

how how and why they're still allowing

this and I feel like this should be a

real topic that they should be talking

about because I feel like a lot of if so

I so it's a they trick women into

abortion clinics but what do they do

instead of the abortion

um so then they they take you in the

office and they show you videos kind of

like

scaring you into not getting an abortion

okay yeah so it's one of those places

yeah so I don't know why we're not

talking about this a lot like I don't

know why the Democrats don't talk about

this

because I from what I've seen they don't

talk about it what they're talking about

life

Parenthood or something like that like

God I don't know for me like I know

Planned Parenthood you could get an

abortion whatever you want but like

these clinics are like you know in blue

States as well so that's why I'm like

they're not talking about I think this

is important because a lot of uh women

like I feel like a lot of women

um I don't know working class women are

tricked into these type of places

yeah yeah it's pretty messed up that

people are tricked

but in general do you think it would be

better if uh there would be less need

for abortions in general

uh yeah I agree I feel like um

they

um yes and no so I I agree with you

house but like for me personally I don't

think Trump did anything wrong

like I feel like that's a Target and we

have looked at the Trump derangement

syndrome which I think is pretty fucking

stupid that people are still talking

about Trump

you know like we're under Biden

Administration now so why aren't we

saying anything about that you know

so what do you what do you think should

be more focused of women's issues for an

ideal Communist party what are some

women's issues that there should be more

of a focus on that they're not focusing

on besides the uh the motherhood thing

okay uh to be honest there needs to be

some sort of like

structure into like

because I feel like feminism has failed

in the US like modern feminism it's

really toxic and I don't know in the

world or you Western in the western

world

um

I feel like we've been poisoned into

thinking like you go girl yeah boss girl

you know instead of

um having a moral side of creating and

building up a family I feel like family

values and um how do you say it like in

the world we're living in today does not

fit at all so I feel like as a Communist

party we should start having morals

in a way of building a family not a

single parent home you know

um and I feel like a lot of the modern

feminists played a big role to a young

woman or women in general

um and that weak mindset

all right thank you for your perspective

appreciate it

all right thank you

all right now we got Sid

and he's got a September 11th

uh what what was going on Sid what's

going on

uh hello I I didn't get a cue up but it

does look like my mic is unmuted now

hello

hello

sorry to uh Mr host sir I'm gonna need

some confirmation that you've been

hearing before I start rambling

otherwise I yeah go on forever

um can you hear me fine at the moment

yes

yes I can hear you

yes I can hear you Jesus okay cool

awesome cool yep sorry about that just

wanted to confirm

um so there was just a couple things

that I just heard that I sort of wanted

to respond to the idea that Trump did

nothing wrong I think actually kind of

plays into the same sort of psyop out of

trump of of uh one size seeing him as a

monster in one side seeing him as a

saint I think we have to be worrisome

about that

um in terms of like the decision over

abortion

um

well so uh

throw a little background I grew up in a

working class family has been has been

working class for Generations

um ever since we emigrated here

um and um

one thing that I know that my mother and

other other folks along in that

population in like the rural Midwest

where I where I grew up they will never

be okay with abortion

um so we can't look at it as a moral

issue ultimately when we look at sort of

uh you know

building the social the Socialist Utopia

or whatever you want to call it

um there has to be some sort of some

sort of separation between morality and

ethics and and I think that we can agree

that it is unethical

uh based upon our current system to to

deny women of abortion especially when

there are very very few Alternatives and

like the last speaker was saying people

are are driven towards places that

aren't actually abortion centers you

know

um the problem with that is Google you

should use

um what what do you do about it

what what do I do about it fantastic

question so um

um I I actually I I didn't want to say

um ham has Hans however you pronounce it

sorry I did see you um at the recent uh

Center for political Innovation

um Conference held in Austin so I was a

participant of that and so uh the

question is what do we do short short

term I don't know short term I don't

know uh long term you know is um have a

government of the people that actually

um provides every single method of

contraception free and available to

everyone

um allowing abortions up to a point yet

also

realizing that

though you can't really draw a a line at

some point between conception and birth

there's a point when any logical person

could consider that to be a living human

being and so there and so maybe there's

uh you know there's a you know no third

trimester abortions which are already

super rare and and uh

extreme extremely rare and I think this

issue is used more politically both you

know I mean it's used by politicians to

gain votes and it's used by the news to

to get clicks so it's it's something

that I think has a simple solution like

recognition that yes on one hand

um the right to life is is important yet

also the right to be able to

pursue a valuable and meaningful life is

important and you can't have both if you

make one side like a one-sided decision

on this so it has to be some sort of

blend between

um between offering you know uh

free education widespread free

contraception widespread abortion

you know and then up to a point and then

I don't know what that point is maybe

that point is fetal viability like if it

could live outside the womb on its own I

don't know you know

um I uh

I I don't know how to make that line but

it's but it's something that I think

that any uh any

damn that's crazy man

that shit's crazy

y'all what up

dang he rugged super hard

um

I just want to say I completely agree

with everything he was saying uh I feel

like I share his perspective completely

um

again I respect that

people have a moral stance against

abortion but when you're talking about

policy it shouldn't matter

um there is there is no reason that

um

you should not be allowed to have any

medical procedure if it's something that

you need it's not abortions are not fun

people are not like this whole idea that

you know women are just getting

abortions for fun is uh you know maybe

they do exist but you know for

convenience

I don't know where you're getting that

from I don't know any woman in my life

who is out here getting abortions for

fun because it's not funny not for fun

but like I've had a friend who

didn't pull off fast enough and she just

got an abortion because she didn't want

it

well good for her you know there's gonna

be people who

time in every aspect of life but it's

not your decision to tell them that they

cannot make personal life decisions

about their life and their body like he

was saying if you're a poor woman and

you like to get fucked Raw

they're the government

should not be allowed to say you can and

cannot have sex the way that you want to

um because you don't have an you don't

have enough money to raise a child your

life is going to be completely derailed

because of it it doesn't matter what the

situation is there's there's a whole

spectrum of people in different

situations that are getting abortions

for different reasons but it shouldn't

matter it really shouldn't matter

there's there's going to be people doing

things like I said that uh are abhorrent

in any society there's going to be there

it's just going to happen you can't

prevent that from happening no matter

what type of legislation you propose I

agree that having an abortion is a

serious decision and you ha you it takes

a lot of consideration and should be

taken seriously and should be dealt with

seriously but that's there is no uh

circumstance in which it should be

banned or you know you should not be

looking down upon people for making

these decisions just because you

wouldn't make them yourself you have no

idea what it's like to go through the

gestational period and then having a

human being to raise financially

responsible emotionally responsible some

people are not ready to make that

decision and you should you could say oh

well they shouldn't be having sex guess

what people are gonna have sex no matter

what they're going to have sex no matter

what people have sex in jail people have

sex if their homeless people are having

sex like it doesn't matter people are

going to have sex you cannot tell people

to not have sex no matter what all right

uh man that's awesome first of all how

old are you

how old am I why does that matter you

you don't sound very mature

how old do you think I am

that's why I'm asking because this is an

18 plus space By the way only adults are

allowed just letting you know

I am over 18. thank you very much okay

well

here's the thing

um so you're basically saying that

any time someone wants an abortion they

should be allowed to because it's in

their body

yes

okay so you don't think that the

question of how life is defined is a

social question you think it's just an

individual question

um it it can be defined however it

doesn't matter how it's defined I'm also

alive I'm also alive if I need an

abortion

uh because it's something that I choose

because of whatever reason it may be I

still I still have a say

because it's um inside of me and it's

going to be my responsibility yeah but

you you in the words of the Joker you

also live in a society

yeah so you you you are you came from a

mother you exist because of other human

beings so you how can you say that if

you give birth if you are giving birth

to another human being it's only your

choice

um because it is because I am the vessel

in which this human being is being

brought into this life

why does that make you why does that

make you the judge during an executioner

because of what I just said

Society you would not be here either

um I didn't ask to be born okay if I had

a choice if I go back in time and choose

to abort myself I probably wouldn't to

be honest

yeah but like if you didn't if you're

gonna have such a fatalistic view where

you're like I didn't choose to be born

well how do you know the baby didn't

choose to die

if you're saying I didn't choose to be

born I don't care that I'm alive and

just let the baby be born because you

don't have to make that choice for the

baby as well

um I'm smarter than this baby this

embryo

um you know I'm more mature I have a

cognitive thinking skills I have

critical thinking skills that this baby

does not have if if I think it's

arrogant to Define life based on that

stuff like you know you don't really

know what a living being is you don't

know any of that kind of stuff like so

you're okay so you're putting the

priorities of a of an embryo and a

zygote and a fetus above my grown ass

woman's

uh mental capacity

yes

okay so that's where the disconnect is I

guess

you're so lucky you're not a girl dude

you're so fucking monkey because here's

why you were lucky

here's one huh here's why H oh okay an

embryo or whatever you're saying

that is a living human being

taking form

okay

so that is that is like more human than

it's like more real human because

well okay I wouldn't say it's more human

because it's not a fully grown adult but

it's like that's where humans come from

is what I'm trying to say that's where

they literally come from we all came

from that so how can you say you that

you don't know more than the Miracle of

Life we came from that we still don't

know how really like we we kind of think

we know how but that's where we came

from

I'm not even really against abortion

that much I'm just saying like you can't

look at it as my body my choice because

we don't fully we can't just sit here

and act like we can

we can we fully mastered the origin of

life just because it's in your body

um when we think about what separates us

from other animals

um you know if a if a cat gets raped and

I've seen it happen it's a horrible

thing to behold

that little kitten no matter how young

it is is going to be forced to have a

litter of kittens and

it it has no choice it is going to bring

life into this world and you know it's

not the cat's fault that it got gang

raped

um because that's cat Instinct right but

I think you're describing a very extreme

scenario okay I think a lot of countries

a lot of countries I'm making my point

are you ready ready for my point a lot

of countries don't ban abortion in every

circumstance there are special

circumstances in which they allow it I'm

just saying like what you're advocating

for is really extreme you're saying that

restrictions as long as the defending

fetus is in the baby and infant is

inside of the mother's womb it can be a

board so that means one day before

she gives birth

you can kill I mean that's an extreme

position okay

okay listen do you know how in insane

you have to be to have a full uh

basically a full-term baby in your belly

and then and then have it aborted

okay so that does not

guess what what if there's a six it does

have to happen okay you're gonna talk

over me you're gonna let me talk

when it does happen it's a tragedy and

it's horrible and it's disgusting

right

but you can use that one example to to

take away the rights of everybody else

who's having

um abortions not that late term that's

just like saying oh okay well we want to

give Ubi to everybody and then someone's

saying well we don't want pedophiles to

get Ubi and then they're like oh yeah

you're right so can you give me examples

of countries where you can just abort

whenever like even one day before giving

birth that it's allowed to have an

abortion is there any yeah I'm not

saying it's a good thing I'm not saying

it's morally right or

something like allows that legally

what country allows it I don't know I

don't care what country allows it even

if no country allows it it so you're

smarter you're smarter than every

country in my opinion

you know more is the legislation

whatsoever so you want to have a radical

policy on this issue that defies the

norm of all human beings outside of

America

are you trying to revert back to Old

systems of civilization are you trying

to build something new are you trying to

move forward in life

so we're moving forward by killing

babies I just don't really

um well if you don't get your baby don't

kill anybody

don't but

if somebody happens in the words of the

Joker we live in a society so it's like

it is our business how we're like

like the question of life is our

business how Society has generates more

human beings is our business

it's not just an individual matter like

it is our business where

like that's literally where human beings

come from of course you could use that

you could use that argument to say oh I

don't think

relations should exist Ed because we

live in a society and the way that you

have sex and uh have relationships with

other with other people is my business

too because we're in the same we live in

the same Community that's not how it

works this is a personal relationship in

one case you're talking about a

relationship between human beings and

another case you're talking about

it like the death of a living organism

so it's not I agree I agree with you

that having an abortion is a is a

tragedy and it's should be avoided at

all costs and I support

everything that you can do beforehand so

you to prevention if you don't want to

be a mom beforehand you know education

contraception uh whatever yada yada

um

you're saying no restrictions at all

huh say that again you're saying no

restrictions at all

on abortions not right right zero

I mean that's just like an extreme

position

because you know what if if you take

away all restrictions there's gonna be

some gnarly cases where people are

whatever the worst things your mind can

imagine because but guess what those

people are going to be fucked up and do

fucked up things anyways but you're take

but because of the actions of few you

would be taking the rights away from the

masses which is at least recognized it

as an extreme uh position I don't I

don't I

I heard if it's extreme but sure I'm an

extremist I'm

sorry yeah I've been called that before

but it doesn't really matter

are you like uh liberal or what

am I a liberal

um no what are you

I I I don't subscribe to the traditional

uh labels of

um politics especially in the United

States I don't know what to call myself

I'm a huh you're like a radical

individualist then right no no no no no

I would say I will call myself

calling yourself a communist

communist it's just the individual's

choice and that's it how is that

no okay you're okay do you even know

what communism means that means almost

all aspects of Life have some degree of

common social significance that means

that means that the question of where

human beings come from

has social significance you can't just

say it's a woman's Choice then that's

interesting you know what you're

you could be morally frowned upon

culturally reject

um you know but because it should be

it's not something that you people

should take lightly like I'm saying it's

not something that should be your first

but do you know how many years to say

you want hospitals to be like

one day before giving birth

you're just gonna abort the image really

crazy it's actually insane like one day

before

it's like you want you want to you want

to keep throwing the most extreme and

horrible

grotesque example in my did you say you

don't want any restrictions on it at all

none at all yeah I mean why why put any

restrictions on it if it happens if that

happens it happens like

that that's that's insane if a woman

does not want to have a baby

um she doesn't need to have a baby I

think so okay what's the difference

between a post-birth abortion one day

after giving birth and a pre-birth

abortion one day before

um uh medically what's the difference

it's still inside of my body so I still

have jurisdiction over it

okay

so just because it's still

in your body that means you you can

you're the judge jury and executioner

first right yes exactly

you want to do it too

yeah that's I understand you're very

individualistic about this issue but I

you know what I'm not it's just that

this is I'm not really I'm not that

extreme at all but I at least recognize

of course there's gonna be some

restrictions on abortion I do like

like of course there has to be some like

you're saying there's none at all

unconditional abortions

yeah because it's I I see it as a

slippery slope you put it in a few

conditions and then that opens the door

to give you more extra restrictions and

you can slide all the way down to where

we are now which is not a good place no

we okay this is what you're not very

educated on though is that the United

States has by far

among the most if not the most liberal

policy on abortions in the entire world

Europe has more all children are

fascists abortion is good

all right that was Gwen

Gwen Rose's uh

that was someone else

um I said when I eat what I needed to

say if someone else wants to come up

here and talk

um that's fine

thanks for listening to me okay

all right thank you for uh your insights

thank you bye

all right

um

so I have I ever uh

this is a he him they but they are part

of the Communist party so I'll let them

have their chance in the Sun

so can I ask you a question before

anything what is he him they

what does that mean

for uh pronouns just so I don't like

step any boundaries because I don't want

to step on the boundaries

so what does he him they mean

okay you can just call me he aren't they

I don't care

yeah but what is is there like a

difference like he him they or he him is

or what does it mean

you can just call me either or

okay I got it

um okay

sorry

um perhaps I got a question for you

um

are you a vegan

absolutely not that's disgusting bye

uh because it kind of seems like

if you're doing care about life

healing well because you should

see you're saying things are social and

you also understand that we need food it

seems like though from this you should

be kind of in the position that we

should be vegan because you're kind of

giving a privacy to life

and animals are not part of human

sociality

yeah they are people have dogs

no that's narcissism of humans to

project onto dogs our own feelings

the animals do not participate in human

societies at all in any capacity so

you know cats don't like affect like

populations that cause other effects in

areas which affect humans

the the rain affects some things the

nature affects it that doesn't mean

I agree it seems like a lot of things

like affect stuff right

that doesn't mean they're human

yeah but you've given a Primacy to

sociality and all of these are social

effects like they all have some causal

orders

they're not social ages it doesn't

matter if they're social agents things

still have sociality uh the fact that

sociality because they don't participate

in the social Realm

Oz I have a question for you how does a

fetus how does a fetus beyond the mother

interact with other people

that is the origin of social beings a

fetus is the origin of social beings

okay so you're just saying like

you know boom there's fetus and it's a

social animal instantly that is how

human beings take form

I I understand

but I don't I don't understand okay

listen when a piece of cabbage turns

into comrade Stalin you can talk okay

until that happens

until your dog can turn into uh

uh until your dog can turn into Haas

until your cats can turn into Che

Guevara like what are you talking about

okay of course that's how human beings

take form

yeah but has you just said you know they

can talk I I've never witnessed a fetus

talk it also kind of seems like you're

denying like that people have fetus is a

fully formed

that is the origin of social beings I

didn't say they are fully formed social

beings I said that's where social beings

come from because I'll ask again you're

just saying like boom a fetus is a

social thing because every argument

you're just trying to play The Devil's

Advocate in like logic Lord your way

into being like I want to fuck dogs just

admit you want to fuck dogs dude no I

don't want to fuck dogs that's actually

immoral stop making all these like

complex overly what I'm saying is like

common sense it's very simple and you're

just trying to like get into all these

complicated mathematical arguments about

why you want to fuck dogs dude just

admit you want to fuck dogs I don't want

to fuck dogs I just have a like my last

question so

if I remember saying you correctly do

you think at conception uh

it's basically at the case where you

know you shouldn't have an abortion you

shouldn't take Plan B or you shouldn't

do I don't really think there's anything

wrong with the pill

okay uh but there there seems to be like

some line where you're like okay at this

point you know you should have some

consideration on whether you should have

abortion or not

yeah I think societies will be like yeah

at a certain point it kind of becomes

fucked up and we're just going to draw

this line and also discourage it in

general but if it has to happen it can't

be before this line

yeah the lines can be arbitrary but it's

about a general view of like just

discouraging it in general and setting

limits yeah yeah so there's a general of

being here

um so I'm going to talk about cats here

because cats are notoriously Pharaoh do

you think about cats bro come on no I

don't want any prep cats I'm just giving

you a generalized example do you think

feral cats should be able to reproduce

uh more because it seems like socially

speaking they have an effect onto the

environment

in the garbage that's what I think

yeah okay so you just you know anti-cat

yeah I don't think cats deserve rights

at all in any way

do you think animals deserve whites hell

no

okay Haas

it sounds like you want to fuck a dog

then

no that's because I want animals animals

don't have rights okay look you're

giving me like the most Libertarian type

answer here because animals don't have

rights anything goes to what you can do

to the animal and that includes

bestiality bestiality is not about

animals having rights it's about

preventing human degeneracy okay it has

nothing to do yeah yeah yeah yeah has

you understand the animal is the other

partaker in the action when it's forced

onto the animal

so like you understand rape is similar

in the sense that you are forcing

someone to do something generously bro

you just like when dogs lick you and you

just want to fuck them bro just admit it

dude I I understand that it's human

degeneration just admit you just want to

fuck dogs just admit I don't want to

fuck God's house fucking all these

complicated arguments trying to give

animals

bring bring yourself

an animal when an animal join the

Twitter space and tell me why I should

care about it

okay when if an animal requests to speak

and and tells me why they deserve rights

then I'll give them rights how about

that

that seems arbitrary no it's not

arbitrary okay if like an alien species

crash lands on our planet and we're

super friendly to them do you think they

deserve rights even though we can't talk

to them

like they don't know how to do if they

can if they can somehow events that

they're similar enough to us that

they're like social beings and they

they're part of the hegelian spirit and

they have their own history and all that

kind of shit then yeah but otherwise if

we just find random aliens on a planet

and they're just like giant chickens or

whatever we should eat them

that that just seems that seems weird

because like animals would still be

under the spear here as well so like you

know if it was just the case at a very

primitive like ape-like species uh you

know let's just say now if they looked

like us like age do we wouldn't eat them

not because they have rights because

just because it makes us uncomfortable

and it's weird but uh that's just based

on yeah but that seems like a that just

seems like a social Moray but from the

fact that everything social mores are

the reason you don't focus

of everything but yes you can legally

fuck your mom you're not gonna because

of the power of social Morris okay so

don't act like it's not yeah I I

understand that pause but it seems like

you're trying to give a like uh

Universal realization of these things

but if it's a social Moret they're just

contingent

everything's condition literally

everything is contingent well if

everything's contingent uh that's going

to be weird if you want to actually

believe in angelism

how Hegel is literally of the view that

the beginning of spirit is contingent it

begins with conditions Spirits

contingent but it's for a pure

contingent contingency is what grounds

Universal reason what are you talking

about Oz they're still the universal

occurring in uh hegel's dialectics okay

you know when you when you hold on

universality arises from contingency

what are you talking about I I

understand that content that

universality arises from contingency

that doesn't still that doesn't like

negain what I've said even have a

universal it's not Hegel is not a

prescriptive liberal Universalist he

believes in the power of mediative mores

and in institutions which mediate the

relationship between the particular and

the universal he's not

a Universalist who just like has this

view that like oh yeah we're gonna like

dictate people's mores based on State

institutions

um

okay I'm going to got that from uh from

how I've read the philosophy right

from Hegel but um no so how's this is

something weird that you're arguing here

so do you think

you know when Newton you know

quote-unquote discovered gravity do you

think that was contingent to the

position that we have now in gravity

what or do you think

yeah do you think it was contingent like

Diego's philosophy similar to Newton in

natural empirical I I'm asking I'm

giving you I'm asking you a question and

seeing if saying what your answer is

what do you mean by contingent

like you know it could have been the

other way

for Newton to discover different laws

uh yeah like if there's you know

understanding of what Newton's laws were

uh a lot of them a lot of them just

formalize

axiomatic principles instead of just

yeah I I know they're at thematic yeah

that's why I said quote-unquote

discovered I'm just asking you know when

we use Newtonian gravity is that

contingent to how we should really view

gravity probably actually because

Newton's framework for understanding

gravity is very limited compared to what

we know about modern physics

yeah okay so and money physics physics

sense do you think it's contingent or do

you think it's a universal

formulated laws of gravity now universal

laws

no no no I'm talking about how we

understand gravity now

like do you think it's close to

Universal or it will become Universal

what do you mean by how we understand

gravity because a lot of this shit again

is just talked logical gravity isn't

some metaphysical substance it describes

the relationship between masses

yeah but that's that's still going to be

like a metaphysical concept it has

causality

yes it is

it's topologically describing the

relationship between masses so when

you're saying so wait hold on so do you

think do you think gravity is

let's just assume for the benefit of

that you're talking about some empirical

fact that is universally acknowledged it

doesn't have to gravity yeah okay

uh well it seems like we we've gotten

from a contingent to Universal but it

seems like there's no more contingency

then it's a question of how that you

so-called universal law actually relates

to us in the form of knowledge and that

knowledge isn't something you can just

universally impose you have to actually

I I understand the knowledge part of the

universal in a concrete and particular

way so no you're wrong

no because it seems like we can discover

the thing that are concrete particular

way such as Force like you know if you

if you've read for example again it's an

axiomatic tautological notion it's not

something you discover at all

who tried to talk to me about philosophy

you're literally coming here and saying

shit like force in space is something we

just yeah yeah I'm asking you questions

you're literally talking about fucking

so just go read Emmanuel Kant and then

come back

I have read a manual con okay so you

know he considered that one of the

categories of understanding yeah yeah

it's one of our categories that are

interesting I'm I'm asking you though

From hegel's perspective what is force

and understanding

because he has he has a bit uh who came

on and started talking about force is

that you to say hi

no I'm not that's the first time I ever

talked to you guys okay

um yeah no I'm just asking you why why

does it seem like we have universals

even though our knowledge of it can be

contingent

like we we've recognized The Duality of

the position there's a dualism occurring

okay what is your point get to your

point

you know I don't remember my point

because I was very confused about your

Hegel stuff earlier

you're saying Hegel believes in

universality not continue yeah he does

I'm telling you yeah no no he believes

the Universe I never denied that he

believed in contingency very much

it seems like you think his

understanding of universality is the

same kind as like either kantz or a

pre-kantian one even words well it's a

it's a resistilian spinosis

understanding of uh universality no it's

not yes it is yeah yeah no it is

are you saying you read history books

but you really need to read history

books on Hegel and the connections to uh

post content ideas

I know people say oh Hegel put spino she

put Spinoza in motion or whatever right

yeah no it's not a spinos as to you

Spinoza has a one-sided view of

universality

has nothing to do with eagles

all right okay

the only connection between Hegel and

Spinoza is that both have some vague

pantheism that's literally it

uh no there's more connection

like the monism that's occurring in the

hable how is that uniquely Spinoza

so that's not uniquely Spinoza but it

can be influenced by Samosa I never said

anything about he's uniquely and he

uniquely has an absolute inheritance for

instance I said he is influenced it's

Aristotelian stenosis idea of

universality cause I never said anything

that you said yeah

because of how he talks about species

and their being the nature of things

um

causality

um even if Hegel

um and I'm unsure about this even if

Hegel is not determined as like Spinoza

he seems to be something like either a

compatibles or he sides with determinism

in some way

that's the notion of determinism is

completely irrelevant to Able it's like

I I get that it's a stone age fucking

primitive understanding that they go

completely overcomes true dialectics he

doesn't entertain these one-sided

distinctions between determinism and

contingency

yeah but he still he still cares about

the cause of order of things so as he us

yeah but for Hegel you only discover the

universal through the particular you

don't know the universe and then no I

completely I completely agree I

completely agree that's how now it is

why is it that we have cases of

universals like they there can be a

split between our knowledge of

universals and the universe of itself

why we have universals right because you

said something earlier that made us go

on to this area and we've been talking

about this for like 10 minutes now I

can't remember what it is so you you

don't even know what the point of what

you're talking about is what you're

saying no because because we talked

about so much Hots that my brain tools

do you you've drift off yeah

I have a question then what what are we

talking about like tell me we were

talking about the significance of mores

in relation to how we treat animals no

no no that that I remember what was it

that like got us onto this tangent it

was something about Hegel you said

something about him like I doubt that

you were like you were like you were

like well that's just based on

contingency then and I said everything's

based on contingency and you're like

well you talk about Hegel and Hegel

believes in universality and I said yeah

yeah okay thank you universality is the

universality that arises from

contingency so what are you trying to

say sir

yeah okay thank you Hal sorry you know

I've I've said Universal so much that I

couldn't remember it

um yeah no we we can move back to you

know like the other point it just seems

you know weird Haz that you're giving a

lot to social mores when it seems like

you're not considering a social class

in it okay so the chicken class

yeah like yeah sure like you know if you

want to consider animals that's well

yeah you're not considering the chicken

class of fertilize eggs

so I'm not I'm not I'm uh relying too

much

on Moors when it comes to how human

beings relate to animals rather than

relying on social structures of class

differences between humans and animals

uh well not the humans and animals to

the broader plane towards abortion

itself your your ignorant of the social

class of being a woman and what that

means so women are a class

uh yeah women in our class they can be

split up into subclasses that's my video

I think so women are a class in the

Marxist sense of economic classes yeah

yeah I would say yeah women are a class

they definitely do

female intelliot

can you repeat that

I'm just thinking what do we call them

the feet the female Italians

you don't you don't necessarily have to

call them a proletariat but they are

along the same lines of proletaries

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no they're not Bourgeois or Petty

bourgeois

they're not capitalists

what do we call this we call them the

like cause I don't I don't get your

point here I'm not going like I don't

come up with this you're saying women

are now a class

yeah whatever

understands

my Marxism is clearly less advanced than

yours so I'm just trying to update my

primitive Marxism into your Genius okay

so uh I don't have a terminology for it

I'm not really big they're female

Italians

um you can do that and I'll try to

remember that you said that all right

okay and like you understand you

understand that it's very possible as a

classmeter that you can be a Trader to

your class right

and who are the female Italia Traders

mothers well it's gonna it's going to be

the ones that end up being like

Bourgeois Petty Bourgeois for exciting

with the capitalist side of things or

they're going to just they're going to

abandon they're going in abandon their

fellow members okay according to you're

either a woman or you're a bourgeois

uh no that's not what I said so when

when women become Bourgeois they're not

women anymore just no they are they are

still women

social Mobility is the same as

transgenderism that's what you're saying

you're saying uh you're saying when she

becomes Bourgeois she just changed her

gender

no so what are you saying

I'm saying that they can change their

primary class which is Bourgeois but

they can still be a part of the subclass

of being a woman like you can be a pro

proletariat you know you can you know if

you want to be like very Frank on what

proletariat means and it's like going to

be a factory worker or female Factory

workers we have historical examples of

that it occurs now they are still

proletariats but there are still a class

as like women themselves they do other

things

it's very weird because it doesn't flow

off the tongue has

to like say about something because this

is a stunning development in Marshalls

of women are a class

yeah like have you what about have you

read have you read angles like working

on working class women in Ireland

yeah where he says that there are there

are increasingly two great classes in

society the female Italians and the male

watch the

yeah I know

Mark said that

Society

this would be Australian development for

me are you anti-angles

no I know angles talked about the women

chariot

okay so yeah so you understand that like

women work as well but do you understand

that women like do other things that men

do historically not do it's a very small

it's rather than a sex right yeah

they're doing class-like things they're

doing labor they're doing things

evolving the modes of production and

value and how value is generated okay

you went from you went from women are a

class to sex plays an important role in

the development of classes

no

I'm talking about how you can talk about

distinctions within the classes

themselves

you would understand that you know if

you have a racist Trade union they're

not going except black members even in

black people if it is

are black people a class too

like there's something going on in

revolving around something about that

are black people a class

uh as a class

no

so black people aren't a class but women

aren't

uh yeah like

transgender's a class

um

yeah they would either be a part of the

middle class

but middle class scenes are very hard

because

defining that's very transphobic of you

because you're saying women are at class

because they do

sexed basically no

no it's very possible transphobia

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pause I'm not being translated

because are you like trying to scream to

your neighbor

all right I'm just acknowledging this

criminality you're engaging in

okay

um

this saw I just want and then I'll leave

and let you talk to other people about

you know been virtually Russia or

patriarchy Socialism or uh abortions do

you think uh do you believe that women

do things that men don't do in the house

or in general that that are going to be

uniquely laborious things

uh not in the Marxist sense of Labor

so you don't think like when

women like cook food for their families

so there's just no motor production

occurring

um there you can talk about a domestic

economy of some kind but it's not going

to fall into the category of marxist

labor at all

okay I think we just finally agree

disagree I think you just need to read

capital

like what I have red Capital because I

don't think you read online you just

talk about stuff like you know it and

you're really good at trying to talk

about stuff like you know it but then

you go into it it's like weird ass

things that you're like trans

sure you're focusing on nothing and I

know for Marx labor is defined as

abstract labor which is in terms of How

It's valorized universally so yeah so so

yeah that's like saying a guy who's like

you know

um mowing the lawn that's labor because

men do yeah yeah there is a value to

that in our site our social mores Marx

isn't concerned you don't even know what

value is remarks that's like the mud pie

argument that the austrians use it's not

relevant it only becomes relevant when

it becomes valorized formally that's

when it becomes labor proper in a

relevant Marxist sense you're at home

and you're building Legos with your kids

or you're doing something exhausting

shit and and you know um you're playing

catch with your son or you're just

mowing your own lawn or you're doing

what women are doing you're saying oh

that brings value that's some dumb

hippie lip shit meeting with bullshit it

has nothing to do with the very precise

and scientific Concepts Marx is

employing in capital which are not just

like oh that brings value you're talking

about value in a very vague and Broad

sense of like you know like I don't know

moral value or sentimental value or

something like that you don't know that

what Marx means by value is something

very specific and scientific

so okay has so you just say you know

it's going to be abstract value do you

think there's a exchange value

no

there's no exchange value in the types

of Labor you're talking about

no no I'm talking about in general

yes exchange value is part of abstract

value okay but but you understand that

there can be abstract value without a

trade value all value is abstract

that's what the value form means we're

talking about abstract labor

which is what the commodity is dude

learn because

no I understand that I I was just making

sure that you weren't you know like

denying exchange value okay you know I

just have to make sure you read your

Mark's cause like you're asking me to

yeah you would do a lot listen kid kid

you would do a lot better not trying to

school me and make a fucking

embarrassment of yourself as a person I

don't really care about a person who has

pretty much like mastered this shit for

10 years studying it committing only to

it for 10 years like the only thing I

care about instead of trying to test it

why don't you actually try and Prevail

on a given point based on the substance

not the perceived level of credibility I

have based on how much fucking knowledge

I have because in that compartment

you're just gonna like look like a dumb

fuck in front of everyone

because you know I only said that

because you've been saying it to me so I

was just making sure we're on the same

page

um no so but you understand that there

can be out track value without exchange

value like there's just there are things

that are abstract value that no there is

no value without exchange value

no value without change value not but

exchange value is a crucial part

of the value form and the commodity form

it is like a defining part of what makes

something have value

then

um

okay

there's no point in any value at all you

can't call Juice value because at that

point it becomes Superfluous it's not a

use value it's just for use you can't

talk about Surplus value because again

Surplus value is only possible when you

have the exchange you need all three to

form the value form all three I I

understand that cause it just seems like

you're

you're saying something like everything

is abstract value

I understand that part but then you're

when I ask you can there be abstract

value without a change value you're

reacting SRI just like only value

because you talked about things as well

it's like you know I go to the store in

like a box of Cheetos is like two bucks

and how that process went through is

going to go through the valley uh modes

to get to the plane that the price is at

it has a value of something

it seems like you're you're considering

one point and not what I've said okay

are you are you on crystal meth or

something are you like on crack yeah

yeah I did I'm on crack okay I just

think you're really confused about any

of this works a box of Cheetos has

exchange value

period it has exchanged about oh yeah I

get that so what are you trying to so

you've said it has also abstract value

everything has abstract value I didn't

say the word abstract I said abstract

labor it is crystallized abstract labor

in the Cheetos yes okay okay okay you

must have misspoke or I misheard okay uh

has

the last thing that I'm going to say is

it's very weird that you have uh you're

friends with a Catholic and how the

Catholic church is touching little kids

so I shouldn't be okay he left with a

college so according to this guy I can't

be friends with any Catholics because of

the crimes of the Catholics Church

all of Latin America write them off

fuck Italy and Spain and you know France

to every Catholic country's evil

Catholic all the Catholic countries in

Africa

Evil And just because of the crime and

you can't be friends with any of them

because they're Catholic that's what

he's saying so gotcha gotcha you know

every every country that's Portugal

forget about it

Austria forget about

Poland forget about it

forget about them all

can only be that guy Sid no you already

had your chance in the Sun

let's let this person go ahead

Boys Hey Haws I think you said something

before about

um like how the US they don't like have

any metaphysics around this question and

then

um something about how like the line is

arbitrary

yes

yes

hello

hello yes

yes

for fuck's sake yes

Elon fix this shit man always fucking

doesn't work

go ahead and speak your piece

hello yes

foreign

I really hope he does fix this shit it's

so annoying

hello

I don't hear you this is like hello I

hope he does I hope Elon fixes this so

quickly dude hello um can you hear me so

I can't hear anybody

yeah I can hear you oh perfect awesome

all right man um I've been a long time

uh listener so um

it's like nice to finally talk uh I

guess like I've been thinking about this

whole issue with abortion and like I

don't know if this is the number one

reason people want it or like the the

right has wanted it to like

I think it's more like a religious thing

but there's been this hope that like

well people now that abortion is like

restricted they'll be like you know the

following U.S birth rate will finally

start going up

and uh like I've been really interested

in the whole concept you know of like

the birth rate and I just don't think

it's gonna happen because of our you

know economic system is just so based

around

individualism and you know all right

thank you for your contribution

that's crazy

but um

anyway

back to what I was saying

now

I would love for somebody to challenge

this but I'm getting the idea I'm

getting the impression okay

I'm getting a lot of

uh

uh ideas

that there's some people that just want

to kill babies I don't know how else to

explain it they're so passionate about

it so fanatical about it they're so into

this issue where they just

and we got to talk about why they hate

babies so much

let's ask this question

do leftists hate babies we just want to

talk about this

because I've seen this a few times

before as well

um

I've seen this a few times on Twitter as

well where it's like

they have this really they they're

they're just hating on babies all the

time and they just abuse it I don't know

what that is Somebody's gotta explain

that baby hatred issue

because I feel like

there's so many leftists that hate

babies they have a hatred of infants

and babies

and maybe the baby reminds them of some

I don't know what it is but there's just

they just really want to be able to kill

babies I I'm convinced that's what a lot

of this is about

they really just want to not

have babies live

and I wonder if it's related to Chairman

Gonzalo

who did

uh you know

he was the ultimate culprit

when it came to that

just there can be no denying that fact

he was the ultimate culprit

but uh it is it is a shame how we don't

really have people step up and kind of

debate about this issue

I don't really have people step up and

challenge

around this issue

but

anyway guys we're going to take this to

this YouTube stream

um if you do want to debate get on our

Discord and get an RVC

because I am sick of this Twitter space

shit I want to focus I'll be I'm Live on

YouTube bye guys

all right end that space actually let me

go grab my charger

and we're gonna take some VC and then

we're gonna like react

I think I missed

I think I missed some super chats

so I'm gonna get to those super chats

there

all right so I missed some super chats I

think

I'm gonna get right into that

oh

all right

all right let's uh I think there's

someone in our VC

show requests no they're gone

I know it's super fucking late

um

but there's still some stuff I do want

to cover and do I think we should react

to some stuff

because I did see something should I say

this for tomorrow I'm gonna save it for

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hello

great

great guest

great experience

dead ghosts

what up

yeah

yo what's up

hang on

hello yeah what's up

oh no it was just uh you were talking

about the uh the killing babies thing

and uh

no I just I have some insight into the

anti-natalist position within like the

post left post-modern and all that shit

you sure

yeah so

I think it was um

a friend of mine that was Marxist and

then got into Foucault and Nietzsche and

all that other shit because he ignored

it before and then he in like a few

months later he's like oh me and my

girlfriend were anti-natalists now and

I'm just like so I had to look into it

and it's really fucking cringe and it's

very um

it's very like it's

it just comes off as uh

like

eco-fascists I guess you could say

where it's just like or like malthusian

eco-fascist

where it's like we're

I don't know it's uh

like it's very self-hating it's a very

anti-humanist

perspective

yeah I think yeah it is something really

weird

it's a tendency it's like it's it's not

just with uh like like post left or

whatever but it's it's also with like uh

some right-wing factions as well like

there's yeah the intellectual dark web

they have like

things about it where it's just like or

like uh with the Libertarians it's like

voluntary Eugenics there's there's a

whole it's a whole thing it's a whole

spectrum of brain rot essentially

it's uh like socially suicidal it's like

we should we should be extinct because

we're too flawed to even be here

yeah it also has a lot to do with like

having no resolve whatsoever

um

like and and just not they almost feel

like they almost think that like giving

birth is too toxic because it's like not

discursively mediated and we don't it's

not like safely yeah they said it's

unethical to bring bring a person into

this world because look how fucked up

the world is I'm just like what yeah

yeah and then um somebody had mentioned

that uh Luna oy was was also

simultaneously uh doing a live stream so

I caught like a few seconds of it to see

like but he was starting to just

like take kind of the same position you

had I was like wait a minute or like

what's going on here like I

like because they were saying that she

was taking the uh the pro-choice stance

but then she started talking about how

it's a uh it's a social issue and not

you know an individual one

yeah

but I've always I've always had the same

opinion even before I was a communist

like and I didn't consider myself a

conservative but I kind of leaned

towards I was like wait no like

like human life is a good thing maybe we

should try to uh try to salvage that you

know and just try to make an environment

where women don't have to make that

choice

you know

where they don't feel like a baby still

in China by the way

yeah yeah

nice how's it been going yeah

um it's it's getting better like we had

a partial lockdown to like all the

schools like the most vulnerable place

like um are you in Shanghai

no no no no I have friends there though

I do have friends there that they were

reporting on it and talking about it

like so I got daily updates of what was

going on and uh of course it was blown

out of proportion but like I think the

big issue is that

a lot of us had the same opinion where

we support the government and at the

same time we're very sympathetic with

the protesters because yeah like

Shanghai and they're loose they're more

kind of westernized I guess

you could say yeah is it kind of like

the the Shanghai local government is not

complying with what the central

government wants yeah they're more

they're more they're more

um

they they respond more well to like uh

petite Bourgeois tendency there like

they're they're more

um they're they're more loose when it

comes to that sort of thing and reigning

in

um they got too complacent now that

seems to be the general consensus here

is like they got too complacent and

they're too tolerant of

certain things that you know and uh you

had a lot of price gouging yeah you know

like

you support the protesters

um uh a lot of us no we were sympathetic

with the protesters that were going out

because they were um

those were the those were the districts

where it was the worst where there was

they were not getting any food in for

like a week are those um are those are

those protests like more uh

it's more like the government needs to

come step in and fix this shit now okay

so those are like are those like more

pro-central government protests then

um yeah for for the most part yeah you

had some of course that were like you

had a lot of the um

like yeah people were like hoarding and

then like and then that became a

conflict between like shopkeepers and uh

just regular people and then there was

conflict with the police and then with

the uh the health officials and that was

only I think one or two districts where

it got really bad

and my friend actually lived in one of

the districts where he's like you know

what it took him a while to get some

food

but they have they have a really nuanced

perspective because like he started

posting that stuff and I was like wait

is he going if is he going from China

good to China bad because he's from

Detroit I I this guy is from Detroit uh

some guy named Diego and he he's been in

Shanghai for years and he's been really

like he gets called Wu Mao all the time

because of his posts but he's uh

yeah he he was posting pictures videos

and everything and he's like here's

where the media is blowing out of

proportion here's where like yeah we we

needed food we needed supplies this and

that you know and

and then um by the end of it they were

just like yeah I mean

um

they they also supported like uh got one

of the ministers that

they're like

the the the local government does need

to be held accountable

so does the central government and like

so this doesn't happen again you know

there needs to be some changes you know

so it's like

it was pretty cool to watch because it

was just like

it was it wasn't black and white it was

really it was really nuanced like the

perspectives that were coming out

as I was paying attention to it and then

over here in Tianjin it was like uh we

had partial lockdown and I was out of

work for like

two almost three weeks something like

that

and then uh we had to go through another

round of tests and all that and that

happened twice so it's like

that kind of sucks but we just had

partial lockdown so it wasn't so bad

like we could still go out and get food

and all that we didn't have too many

cases

it was just Shanghai where they had a

lot

all right

um

thank you man appreciate it appreciate

that perspective I was wondering

yeah man all right

all right before I get more out just

want to get this guy on so you know what

go ahead

got five seconds on mute yourself five

four three two one get out of here

what's up

hello yeah

okay I am back so is the stream about

abortion

yes

uh you would like to know my opinion on

abortion

certainly and with and in a way that's

allowed on YouTube

okay I would just like to say

that uh

uh Malik worshiping XX chromosome people

are seething and they are coping and

they are obfuscating and they are

escaping uh the the coward flees when no

man pursues but the righteous are as

bold as a lion okay

so don't worry that was not English so

right what am I what is my opinion on

this thing personally I completely

support the idea of the right to abort a

child I.E murder a baby uh to be

entirely removed unless there was uh

some threat to the mother and the only

time in the case in which there was a

threat to the mother it would literally

have to still be like within the first

like few days or so of the actual

pregnancy

now otherwise however anything past

those first few days is nothing short of

uh going against God's Divine Law and

also just you know murdering a soul

because as the body is being formed

right the soul too is also slowly

revealed yeah

so uh

but you said they're moloch worshiping

what do you mean by that

they kill babies uh just like how Malik

worshipers and the of the office the

idol worshipers and Molly of that uh

that all the ancestors of the Jewish

people uh pursued and uh and expelled uh

they would stay they kill these children

uh just like how the Malik worshipers

would sacrifice their children on altars

the difference is the Malik worshipers

would sacrifice it for the urge to

worship idols these people uh sacrifice

it for the sake of their own urges

meaning there's only only difference

between them is that uh the only

difference between them and a Malak

worshipers that the mall of worshiper

like does it on a statue these people do

it inside like a clinic

what how do you respond to the L the

claim that

um that's sexist and it's

a woman's right

um well my answer to that claim is I

really don't care uh God said so

you have to say to there's many women

who think that

um God is a patriarchal idea and that

there's actually

um feminine goddess there's actually

what that there's a uh a feminine uh

mother goddess that says abortion's okay

that yours is patriarchical

so the first thing I want to establish

is that I've already said this before

like on the other stream so it'll be

somewhat somewhat of repetition but

God is the first cause of all things he

is infinite and he is infinitely

Transcendent meaning he transcends the

idea of male and female and anything

really within creation that any thing

can grasp however

however however right how do we know

that our God is the actual God and not

like you know and not their so-called

mother fake made up Wicked Goddess that

they got off of like Tumblr whatever it

is these people get their uh belief

systems from well first thing

I have a few articles so I'm not going

to go through the whole thing but if

anybody wants uh

uh I'll put uh articles establishing

that literally just by observing the

physical world you can see that it's

proven that God is true go to where

should I put the should I put this in

fact checking I'll put in fact checking

or I'll just like I can't put it in the

chat and the uh and then I'll send two

others about establishing that The God

Who revealed the Toyota the god revealed

the Torah of Moses sat on Sinai that he

also is uh the true God and that there

is no other God but him

so but if I were to go into it right now

it would take like uh you know it would

take away too long however I will say

this I put them both in fact checking if

you want to put those in the chat or put

those on stream if somebody wants to put

them in the chat that's their choice

um point is though is that my God is

real and you're fake made up Wicca uh

Tumblr deity who is called mother

goddess like peaches whatever the hell

it is is not real that thing is fake and

you made that up just so you could

justify like you know eating a baby or

something what what do you say to the

people that say

um you're just trying to restrict

women's Freedom uh to uh make choices

I am trying to restrict the free the

freedom of people to go and like you

know Murder and to like you know make

the world become more corrupt like I

said I said on the previous stream when

I talked to you about premarital sex

that that the essence and if somebody

wants to know why this is the case uh go

watch the stream I'll I don't know I

remember which one it was called I think

it was almost like about Putin or

whatever but when somebody sins and once

again this varies between like the the

severity of the sin the literal essence

of the world itself becomes more

corrupted and it becomes closer to death

and so on and so forth right as in like

uh instead of being higher and

Transcendent and revealing more of the

Transcendent Divine Light that's in the

heavens bringing it down to the Earth we

go more into physicality and more into

literal physical mental and spiritual

corruption until the world literally

just ceases to exist and like

spiritually and physically crumbles as a

result of all the corruption so one of

the greatest Sins Of course is murder

let alone murdering a child and

sacrificing a child you know it added on

to this with you know for the sake of

your own urgency

and murder but what

when they say this is just the

patriarchy of controlling women yeah

yeah I'll get to that really quickly

um my point is that we're saying is that

we're making this thing wrong because

the fact that it's not just a crime like

in the human sense it is literally a

crime not only against God but against

the world itself like the world slowly

ceases to exist when you commit sins

especially when they are higher sins

like this murder on abortion but uh what

do I say to this and we're just trying

to control women

I'm trying to control both women and men

so they don't murder and sacrifice

children for the sake of their own urges

women I don't care if you we're the ones

who carry the baby I really don't give a

damn okay you know if I went up to you

right and I shot you through the stomach

or something like while you were

pregnant would you say it wasn't alive

okay I shouldn't be charged with murder

I should be charged with like you know

what is it called like a salt with a wet

salt with a deadly weapon or something

like look we don't care if you're

carrying it in your stomach if a baby

was attached to me it would still be a

baby it's not because you have two

chroma two X chromosomes because you

have a vagina it's because of the fact

that it is an infant okay it's not

everything is about you not everything

is about you okay

what do you say about

um

what do you say when they say that you

don't know it's not your choice to make

because you don't um

you don't know what it's like

ah do you know what it's like to be

crushed with like two metal pliers or

something especially as like a baby

before you've even been born yet

so if you don't know what that's like

I'm gonna say to you there's no need

that you can't really you don't really

have like a choice to abort a grown

child just because it's inside your

stomach unless you know what it's like

to have your head literally crushed uh

with two metal pliers okay

I mean if you look at the Supreme Court

right now I mean there's all there's a

lot of people protesting and they're

really angry and why they're really

angry you got to give I mean there's a

lot of emotions in this

and they're really upset so it's time to

go to

okay my response to those people uh who

are very angry listen we understand why

you're upset it's time for you to go to

jail because of how many children you

want to murder it's time for you to go

to jail yeah

time for you to be incarcerated until

you repent like open sincere repentance

not like I'm just gonna pretend like no

you you you're gonna go to jail yeah

time to be in the handcuffs that's just

simple response I mean look if all these

people are very very angry and upset and

so on and so forth think how upsetting

it would be if somebody came and crushed

your head with metal pliers and

mutilated you while you're inside your

you know while you're inside your

mother's womb let alone your mother

actually consenting to her like imagine

if your mother said yeah go like you

know Murder that son that I raise or

that like daughter that I raised or

something right I'm about to give birth

to you with two metal pliers just just

just you know put yourself on those

shoes okay

because I need to I need to represent

the other side here so isn't it

isn't it the woman's choice to make

Mario Aaron Twitter her body her choice

nope see with my body right I'm with my

body I can go and murder somebody so who

are you to restrict my bodily autonomy

and tell me that I can't go murder

somebody but it's the same thing I'm not

about to go we're about to you know

these women cannot go right and murder a

child handmaidens too what about the

handmaiden's tale because

oh God I love that shit so much like you

have no idea isn't that the society

we're headed towards if this is allowed

we're not about a we're not about to

head to the uh handmaid's tale we're

about to head to the uh nakabi tale okay

Subhan

okay we are about to head to the nakabi

tail we're in public all modesty laws on

both men and women will be enforced

blessed is the life of the world's

blessed one who created the world that

is the tale of the so-called tale I.E

reality that we are going to but women

are not going to be forced to have other

men's kids or something stop freaking

out rather the Sharia the law of the

Tita the law of Mount Sinai will be

enforested okay with the gods with the

help of God

but but you forget about the handmaid's

tale that that if anything I am against

the handmaid's tale you want to know why

because it is against the halacha to

have degenerate non-sensual you know you

know nonsensical sex against a woman's

will and so on and so forth just so she

can like you know have you know just so

she can have somebody else's child

handmaid's tale is degenerate handmaid's

tale uh is what the uh uh the so-called

um liberals of this world want why

because the Liberals love having

degenerate filthy disgusting immoral sex

like the more immoral it is the more

they glorify it that's why they project

the so-called handmaid's tale onto

people who are uh you know against

abortion and so on and so forth it's a

weird subconscious thing rather what we

want is one Malik worship to end and two

the nakabi tale to happen the nakabi

tale will happen yeah

so

um

what so what uh what do you what so what

would the modesty laws mean for men as

well because for women they have they

would have to cover everything men they

had you have

in public the man must he must cover his

elbows like halfway down the arm must

cover his elbow and so on and so forth

and he must also cover his knees nobody

should be wearing tight clothing to

where it shows their body off and so on

and so forth men must also cover his

shoulder and so on and so forth he must

wear clothing that is modest you know

can also be comfortable of course like

wearing a tube and so on and so forth

but doesn't show off his body to where

it's tightly wrapped around and people

can look at it and so on and so forth

that is that's what it means for men

what would you say to people that um

object to what you're saying and they're

saying

but what you're doing would be very

oppressive and because you know some

people just want to be free and loose

and they wanna you know

um some people want to go on the

choo-choo train and you're saying they

can't do it

Mars Giga Beast

oh you can't look I've already said

before like oh you know like I said

anybody watching watch the other stream

the sin literally destroys the literal

spiritual and physical essence of the

world it's not just like an individual

crime or something it's gonna be a crime

that affects the entirety of the

creation and makes the world closer and

closer and closer to uh Mass perishing

and like you know the entire little

physical world just ceasing to exist

that's what happens when you commit sins

that's what happens

I'm establishing I'm establishing why

you can't do that I'm establishing why

you can't do that yeah but how would you

respond to someone who says you can't

prove that scientifically

well I can prove that scientifically and

the reason why is because when we look

empirically at the physical world we can

tell that there must be a first cause to

All Things who has no beginning and no

end and no limit and that is described

in one of the articles I put in come on

show requests that literally just by

observing this are not uncommon to

requests on a fact checking and please

somebody once again repost those in the

chat uh that there literally it is quite

literally impossible even by the

standards of the empiricists that there

is not an infinite God who is absolutely

one who knows all things who is the

cause of all things and so on and so

forth meaning that if he decrees

something this means that he is doing

this in his infinite wisdom meaning that

this is the most Superior decree ever

made it is the best thing for the

entirety of creation every physical

thing and even the smallest form of

matter this is the best thing whatever

he says and so on and so because of his

infinite knowledge so because I can

prove that even empirically and I'm not

an empiricist I believe empiricists are

uh in Arabic if anybody who's arabic

speaking the chat uh I know that you are

but I don't know if you understand this

somebody's an appearance this is I won't

say it in English but he is

and in Hebrew high of Misa but even by

the standard of the empiricists we can

prove that such things that committing a

sin is the worst thing ever you could do

the most immoral thing you could do yeah

um

so

I see so um

what so how so when all these people are

screaming at you and stuff and

like they're very angry about it and you

know if you said this in public I mean

if you went to one of those protests and

you said this I mean I don't know what

they would really get upset so how would

you respond

stop coping or go to jail like these are

the only two things you can say to these

people look these people will never

change their mind unless the literal

culture and the subconscious mindset of

uh of the society itself has changed

okay so when you for example make

modesty and like being against imodesty

and being against sinning and being

against transgressing and so on and so

forth normal when you make that widely

societally accepted people will

eventually just you know capitulate to

it and accept it subconsciously in their

mind as moral as well but when it is the

opposite and right now it is the

opposite it says if you are against uh

committing transgressions if you are

against sin if you are for the sake if

you if you are a pro-god and so on and

so forth and what you hear from these

people and it's just like the robots

like they're other just like another

drone you know as a very famous streamer

said they're just like a another drone

and like what was their only response

like you know that's the only thing that

they can ever respond with and it's like

an animalistic thing so the only time

which they're going to change is when

their subconscious has changed right

collectively and it will never well

almost a 99.9 of the time will not be

changed individually so that's my

response to these people yeah what is do

you think it should be allowed to have

like blue hair pink hair what about this

no no just disgusting illegal that's

illegal it's illegal why it's just a

different hair color

which

no dying a hair is a sign of modernism

and of loving Hedonism and so on and so

forth it should be banned

so um

so you're you're against

um

you're so

how do you enforce these new rules to

impose on society

with the help of God uh anybody who has

a logical mind which is many people many

millions of people in America do have a

logical mind even though there are many

millions who do not

you convince them you established them

to be evidence for the tight of the

evidence for God's law the evidence is

objective

right and you bring them to understand

the truth of God's law when you bring

them to understand the truth of God's

love is rashem that is when you know

like I said that is when the culture

itself so much slowly over time more

opportunities

uh for the establishment of God's law in

you know a place like America or in the

western world and so on and so forth

right now of course the minority except

God's law but like I said only this this

thing will only change when there is

cultural change and so on and so forth

so that's why when you say

scientifically a fetus has no

life or consciousness

well like I said God said there's a soul

in the fetus secondly first of all there

are people who literally can remember

things while they are in the womb okay

this happens in Israel this happens in

America and so on and so forth there are

literally examples of people remembering

things in the womb and you can look this

up I'm not even kidding right secondly

uh fetus has a nervous system and it has

a heartbeat and so on and so forth so

even if we want to say from the

empiricist idiot uh physical standpoint

where you just think that the only only

thing exists is the physical world by

their logic as well the fetus has life

is

what's your view on child support

like what do you mean like a man has to

pay child support or something yeah

yes I think that a man would have to pay

child support yeah

and what about the woman what about a

baby out of wedlock

a baby out of wedlock the men will also

have to uh raise that child yeah but

like what about a baby conceived

immorally

like uh what do you mean like rape no

like a hookup with no marriage that's

still yeah it's so I think this is also

the case in in fifth meaning like

Islamic jurisprints but in halacha a man

has intercourse with a woman he is

considered legally married to her even

if the marriage is like an immoral

marriage right he's still considered

legally married to her in a court

meaning he would still also have to

raise that child

so they would just be married then

they would have they would have to raise

that child yeah and if he goes around

and keeps doing this and so on and so

forth miso yeah what about

um Jada Smith because she's been with

many men and she's not married to them

I've never heard of this woman thank God

by the way but Chada Smith

it's it's Will Smith's wife oh Jada Jada

Smith

um well this one first of all I don't

even know why we drink this one as an

example like she works in Hollywood

meaning that like she literally eats

babies for breakfast so I don't know why

I like like be an example

like she she eats babies for breakfast

yeah but a woman like her who goes

around has sex once again uh lashes and

so on and so forth and you know it's

just going to be a very difficult life

for her yeah

what about that

uh that deserves the death penalty yeah

death penalty higher me sir

uh yeah

I I see extreme sexual immorality

extreme Hedonism disgusting

we're not saying you can't enjoy sex

we're just saying you cannot be like a

literal like demon yeah

do you think animals cannot have rights

right I think like rights and that isn't

like human rights or whatever but I

think it should be like illegal to like

abuse or cause like unnecessary pain to

an animal because you can Slaughter the

animals I agree with that but like an

animal is like not like a human being

like it has a life force but it doesn't

have like the image of God and so on and

so forth a human has the Divine image so

but no it would it not be like rice or

whatever like human rights but like it

should be legal to abuse an animal yeah

okay I see what's really funny too is

that it's always the uh it's always the

animal rights activists who literally

are like the most satanic and like the

most depraved or whatever it is

um they uh I was gonna say something I

was gonna say something like what was it

I has

for everybody first got also for

everybody watching one of the

motivations of why you shouldn't sin

is because like I said when you are more

Transcendent okay like when somebody

doesn't sin and does Good Deeds the

world becomes more transcended he is

able to do things like teleportation

physical Miracles growing things out of

the ground he can actually learn how to

when he does not sin and he and he

understands the divine secrets in the

world and the Divine Transcendence he

can take mud and he can literally create

a physical cow out of that mud out of

that a cow yes did this the sages of the

talmud did this meaning is Abraham he

did this

so

and the reason why is because he's more

Transcendent he's utilizing the Divine

image that God it gave him the spiritual

Divine image that God gave him to

literally go beyond the physical world

and so on and so forth and see what

cannot be observed empirically before

his very eyes before his very spiritual

eyes so I'm just saying if you

keep singing for everybody watching if

you keep committing sins

if you uh keep going against God and so

on and so forth you do not learn his

divine secrets and at the same time you

don't follow his Commandments think of

what you are preventing Humanity from

ascending to

out of just pure selfishness you are

keeping Humanity in this state you are

letting disease spread into the world

like monks can make in the Far East

since like that they what about all that

because they can do that studying that's

studying Divine Transcendence that's

what I'm talking about notice how those

men are not pro uh you know what how

many letters is it

uh four letters they're not pro four

letters uh starting with an L uh they're

not uh uh uh uh Pro abortion they're not

pro from you know these and what do they

do they sit to their modest they live a

modest life and they study the divine

secrets they study Divine Transcendence

that is why they are able to perform

such things using the Divine image

so

when somebody however lives like a

Californian and he lives like a hedonist

he is the complete opposite he's the

he's the complete in Hebrew meaning he's

the complete opposite of uh of a monk

and so on and so forth who can perform

such things

can the age can the lifespan of human

beings be extended if they more

yes yes there are people there are

people on account of their Divine

Transcendence who have lived 400 years

400 300 and 500 years

like because of the fact that they have

utilized Divine Transcendence but when

there is more sin in the world it is

actually difficult for everybody to

achieve that Trend more difficult for

everybody to achieve that level of

transcendence and understand the Divine

sequence to get to that level so even

just the individual sin drags down

anybody else who wants to escape such a

thing

now and actually become uh beyond the

physical world to actually do things

which are Supernatural so Humanity

collectively could use things which are

Supernatural right but people who sin

decide to keep Humanity from doing such

things

and what do they say oh we can we go to

space now because we have Rockets but a

rocket is not a supernatural thing it is

built is literally over compensation for

human limits and the human limit is that

human beings are no longer allowed like

no longer able to levitate and fly just

by Divine will

do you think Rockets are stupid I think

Rockets are like I said rocket Rockets

is what I could call uh coping that's

what we call coping and over

compensation for human limitations as a

result of sin if human beings were able

to do things which are Supernatural by

to stop by by going by you know going

towards the Commandments of God and

learning the divine secrets you wouldn't

need Rockets you could literally just

fly

I see

that's a motivating factor why not to

sin for everybody everybody here

and if you keep saying you are

collectively preventing people from

doing that

I see I I I'd have to study that more

I've never not really familiar with um

anywhere

you do you do

um

yeah by the way my account on uh I I

opened a uh Twitter or whatever it is

just to go on these Twitter space things

they uh restricted it because I called

somebody a uh

I called somebody I I quote can I I

don't know if I can say this on Twitch

but I'm actually YouTube an extreme

token and then they uh they they mute

they whatever it is I locked my account

so but I'll get out in an hour so yeah

but it's Russia you know more Twitter

because

it's a very strict

yeah I I know I know but uh you know

generally speaking this Twitter

colonization thing oh sorry put it

um uh in a Twitter anti uh what what

will be Awards of these Twitter

organizing that's going on right now

everybody's Twitter uh you know Invasion

thing is is a very good idea but we

gotta step it up more if you know what I

mean we got to step it up more because

if we don't do it hard enough then like

it's just never going to work but it is

it is working for now so I recommend

still spreading it oh and uh

I want to ask you by the way I want to

ask you

what are your thoughts

on uh what are your thoughts on um what

is it well I'm trying to remember we're

trying to remember

give me a second hold on

oh yeah if somebody wanted and I don't

want to do this I'm speaking for

somebody else who's actually I think

watching the stream right now

if somebody called themselves a

communist and invested in Raytheon would

they still be a communist I'm just

saying this for George by the way George

yeah if you can make your money pretty

much however you want to individually

unless it like is beyond the law and

they're like a really like immoral way

extraordinarily immoral way like yeah

you can you can invest in whatever I

mean it doesn't matter it's not going to

make a difference

yeah how do you stop doing premarital

sex by the way

uh I have like in the past two months

but not not out of choice uh because I

haven't had time

okay well hopefully you have no time to

have premarital sex constantly but yeah

um

hopefully you have no time for that but

uh very good very good

and by the way well I'm not I don't

really feel like I'm uh

gaining powers from this to be honest

well it's not just not doing sins it's

also studying like also you know Divine

Transcendence but keep in mind you will

like uh like become like literally like

but in your very soul and body better by

not having uh you know what I like to

call uh the demon uh demon practice if

you know what I mean yeah

uh yeah

another thing about abortion by the way

and did you talk about yet how Margaret

Sanger created Planned Parenthood so she

could like abort more black and Jewish

people or whatever it is yeah the

eugenical aspect I did I did kind of

allude to it a little bit she literally

wrote in a letter she literally wrote in

a letter that the reason she said we

don't want the public to know that we

are trying to decrease like the black

and Hebrew population she literally like

wrote those words yeah as in like you

know black people and Jews

um they would they like back then a

leather a lot of like uh immigrants or

whatever it is

who would uh like you know like who were

like from Eastern European countries who

were Jews so like they didn't really

have a lot of money so they were able to

exploit the uh Jewish lower class at

that time they convinced Jewish women to

get abortions they also did the same

thing in Israel not Planned Parenthood

but like abortion organizations in

Israel like go to Israel's early like uh

go to like Israel back in like the 1940s

and so on and so forth right which

you're going to see in 50s you'll see

that they're like tens of thousands of

infants getting aborted to your Jewish

infants oh yeah I want to ask you a

question what do you think about

Freemasonry oh those people Alyssa I

look these people are disgusting and

they're not behind anything that's just

like an internet meme they're not behind

anything yes they are yes they are go

ask the former Masons not the ones from

the lower degrees by the way the ones

who are actually more in the

organization those who have the higher

degrees Scottish Rite York right so on

and so forth right ask them what

happened inside The Lodges behind closed

doors these people they study divine

secrets but they study it for the sake

of basically doing sorcery and doing

evil things and having control over the

world and so on and so forth oh that's

just like a crazy conspiracy thing

they're all just like oh old men in a

club right now no they are not they're

not just a charity organization they're

not just like a little country club

where you do plays if you believe that

you are a naive atheist empiricist idiot

you're missing your frontal lobe and

somebody probably slammed you into the

ground really hard when you were a

newborn in order for you to actually

believe that okay

like God damn like those people are evil

they have I'll tell you what they do

they literally if you go on like their

websites or whatever it is right they

have like these things so they advertise

people to come publicly watch plays uh

inside their lodges okay both like

Masons and non-masons just anybody but

the people who they're trying to test to

give them higher degrees ask Masons

about like ask former Masons who left

about this they will tell you this okay

but the people who they want to test

like to see if they have a higher

understanding of divine allegories and

divine secrets and so on and so forth or

how sort of a creation functions right

they will basically you know attach them

afterwards on what they could tell was

an allegory and what was the like what

were all the allegories and the hidden

meanings inside the play and so on and

so forth to test if they have that

Masonic mindset okay like don't think

it's just like oh they're just like men

in clubs and they're just like academics

that they are not and you are actually

mentally like you are actually mentally

deficient if you believe that I mean you

are there's something like wrong with

you there's something defective in your

mind if you believe that yeah

I see all right well we're gonna have to

close it there but thank you for the

contribution Mar

um wait one more thing

remember somebody

fact checking the channel and the

Discord go and post the articles that I

posted here in the chat Biz Russ Hashem

okay so you can understand the arguments

against these uh uh Satan worshiping uh

you know Malik loving you know baby

eaters yeah

all right all right see you later it's

all right bye

thank you

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