A Marxist Analysis of Russia's War in Ukraine
2022-04-24
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all right so we have been able to kind
of like paint a pretty specific in-depth
kind of deep dive into what's been going
on in azov stall recently and what's
been going on as far as the future of
ukraine and the region but it's always
opportunities like this where we need to
take a step back a little bit and we
need to ask tougher questions like how
did we get here and what is the
fundamental and underlying history of
what's happened here right
how did we get to a point where nova
russia is going back to russia and how
did we get to a point where
ukraine as a state is no longer going to
exist i am not really satisfied with
moralistic pictures of good or evil what
i want to set about to do today and what
i want to accomplish definitively is
actually engage in a type of materialist
analysis
of the history of russia and ukraine
following the fall of the soviet union
leading up to the events of the maidan
coup and the implications that this has
for russia i think you got a sneak peek
and a little bit of a hint of that in
that kind of debate i had with the
lithuanian guy but we're dealing with a
very interesting scenario which i think
deserves more thought more analysis and
more reflection than just good and bad
narratives about what's been going on
now we know for a fact that the western
press is full of shit and they're
inaccurately reporting on what's going
on and i think we get that and i'm not
so much interested anymore in just
reporting the details of that i want us
to think more deeply and broadly as
marxist leninist and with the tools of
analysis available to us using marxist
leninist theory to be able to have a
superior understanding of how it got to
this point okay and that's what i i
wanna i wanna set about to do
here right um so we can have a more kind
of neutral just objective understanding
underlying because i think that's what's
missing right we're caught up in this
info war where they're saying okay
they're lying a lot about russia we're
telling the truth about russia where's
the neutrality where's the objectivity
where is it a basic sense of reality
unprotruded by ideological prejudices
and and national passions and things
like that and that's what i want to set
about to accomplish with today's stream
and it actually is going to be the main
theme of today's stream it's going to be
about the future of russia itself where
russia's going right now what
implications the end of the soviet union
had for russia these kind of big topics
of analysis are basically the meat and
potatoes and the thrust of what
direction i want my future streams to
take in general i don't want to just be
a new streamer i want to be able to
stream big ideas and and
broader forms of analysis about these
types of things right so the first thing
we have to point out is there's a lot of
details people miss that are important
to bring into the picture and we're
going to go from an analysis that's
based on the hurried kind of excitement
of what's on the daily headlines of oh
russia's doing this was doing that too
let's just broaden the context and
create a hermeneutic circle so i'm going
to teach you today what a hermeneutic
circle is so a hermeneutic circle is
basically a way of deriving meaning and
knowledge from a given object or from a
different from a given body of work a
book a region a history whatever you
want where
knowing details allows you to paint a
big broad picture and with that big
broad picture you get more details and
with more details the big broad picture
starts to be more complete the issue
with the hermeneutic circle the kind of
paradox it represents is that
every detail of knowledge reflects some
broad picture but every broad picture is
only given expression through these
little details and they work together
dialectically to give us a more holistic
understanding of the situation so
when we actually have a deep analysis of
what's going on of the history and all
these kinds of things we're beginning
from the particular then to the
universal rather than the reverse we're
not being beginning from some universal
ideological claim and then filling in
the blanks we're actually beginning from
some kind of objective analysis right
and that analysis isn't as informed of
all of the biases and ideological
fanaticism that prevents people from
being able to have an accurate picture
of what's going on sure right but it's
also an analysis that's
going to need to arrive at a positive
objective kind of conclusion rather than
just the fact that okay the west is bad
ukraine's bad ass off is bad we get that
but what actually is going on here right
and this speaks to the mission statement
of infrared infrared's original mission
statement was marxist leninist analysis
beyond the visuals beyond the visual
spectrum right
um beyond the visible spectrum beyond
what's immediately apparent to us so the
first thing i want to present to you is
this article
by catahound the caton institute which
talks pretty briefly about the history
of navarasia and ukraine right
so here they talk about how there are
several lies and this was from 2016
circulating on the internet regarding
former ukraine novorossiya and russia
these light are spread by the key of
nazis trolls and your american masters
with the obvious goal of disinformation
but only fools will believe it so the
first lie you're gonna hear commonly
about the situation is that the
ukrainian people chose to go to the eu
well it's not true because these people
and i'm showing it to you on a map chose
not to do that they chose to go toward
russia the russian world the customs
union
belarus and kazakhstan when they elected
yanukovych's president and a pro-russian
rada in the last
legitimate elections before the nazi
coup then there was a coup directed from
the u.s against the legal president and
government all elections after the nazi
coup are void and illegal were neither
democratic nor fair as all the
opposition has been banned imprisoned or
killed let no one forget this we do not
want the traitors to distort the facts
the russians and novorossiya and
malarusia the russian-speaking
ukrainians and the central parts if they
are allowed to speak what they want were
of all the people of mixed origin the
next lie russia doesn't need novoracia
those who make this statement have no
idea about russian history or culture
and they have no knowledge of
geopolitics in general and security
politics in particular russia needs
novorossiya for many reasons first and
most important because it is a genuine
part of russia it has been for 300 years
it was stolen from russia during a
period of russian weakness and when
russia was ruled by american lackeys in
the 1990s the majority of the people in
novorossiya are russians or
russian-speaking ukrainians who are
opposed to the key of junta and who want
to join the russian world but nova
russia is also a shield of russia
against nato aggression and enemy
military bases now this is what i really
want to highlight here because when it
comes to coming to a materialist
analysis of why novador c is so
important we can't just proceed a kind
of national analysis we can't just
proceed even from a perspective a
military strategy because ultimately war
is an extension of politics and this
would be engaging in the kind of
cardinal sin of idealism it would be
assuming that political formations are
what's behind all this it would be
assuming even that national formations
are behind resolve this when a
materialist is going to proceed at the
most fundamental level of what the
essence of all those things are what
makes a nation what makes politics this
is what's at stake in being able to form
a coherent and sustainable analysis
of what's been going on in ukraine so
the same is true for eastern malorcia
all lands east of the dniper i can't
pronounce that correctly is russian land
paid for by russian blood many times
over through history it is treason to
even think of abandoning these lands to
nazis and to nato yet another lie to be
exposed there will be a world war if
russia liberates novorossiya this is
absurd and it's contradicted by
statements from the europe and usa none
are prepared to go to war to save some
nazis in kiev especially as any russian
liberation would be just that a
liberation and not an occupation this
liberation would not be extended to
galicia because that part was never
genuine russian land and is too infected
with nazis to be worth the cost of
denotification so if you don't know what
galatia is right um
alicia is right here sorry fuck it's
different there's one in spain and
there's one in france it's right here
right so this is what they're talking
about this part was never historically
russian land it was taken from the polls
i think by stalin it had
belarusian and ukrainian populations
living there which the polls are pressed
but historically speaking i mean this is
austria-hungary this is the polish
lithuanian commonwealth whatever it's
not really historically russian land
they they don't think they're ever going
to be able to take this right they have
no illusions as far as that's concerned
um you know another lie is that the
russian world is only russia now this is
a pretty interesting part of the article
i think is people think these are
fascists you know because these are the
fourth position as duganists so these
might be fascists well look what they're
saying and this is gonna actually piss
off a lot of like alt-right you know
type of people but this is what they say
actually there are no limits to the
russian world if a person would like to
join the russian world for whatever
reason they should be welcome it could
be that a person has a russian spouse
likes russian culture or russian
orthodoxy or lifestyle and so on and i'm
not talking about creating ghettos like
what happened in western europe any
person joining the russian world should
be willing to assimilate at least to a
certain degree to russian society
without having to deny his her own roots
russia ought to take in half a million
such people from all over the world
annually they should preferably be young
and educated or willing to get an
education in the new country there are
quite a lot of such people all over the
world that would give russia a chance
that would boost the russian economy and
society too and of course refugees from
former ukraine and nova garcia should
also be taken into russia but with a
clear understanding that they will be
returned to a liberated novorossiya and
melrose sooner or later geopolitically
geographically it's of course easier to
define the russian world russian
federation plus belarus plus northern
kazakhstan plus navarasia plus eastern
malarusia transnistria abhasia southern
ossetia and some regions of the baltics
such as narva any part of this territory
is just as holy and russian as as moscow
should be as equally defended so that's
a kind of picture of the geopolitical
vision underlying this but i think
that's the kind of weakness of our
analysis thus far is that we have
overwhelmingly relied on a geopolitical
based analysis a political based
analysis in general almost everything i
just described to you and read out to
you in that article ultimately boils
down to politics it doesn't boil down to
a materialist conception or
understanding of the situation in order
to break that down we need a deeper
understanding of the circumstances
surrounding the fall of the soviet union
and the implications it had for the
peoples living in that region in a
material sense okay
and we're going to begin here with the
donbass itself and its significance now
i want to paint a picture to you because
i think it's pretty easy to draw
materialist analysis of american
politics specifically when it comes to
regions like west virginia west virginia
was a coal mining state and you know
that's where joe manchin and the rest
are based that's where a lot of
republicans and support for trump is
based is that you basically had these
heavy industries that define the
backbone of the american national
economy and these people's jobs were
threatened or otherwise not invested in
it as much and that's kind of defined
the politics of the region it's about
preserving that older way of life and i
think that's a really easy materialist
analysis to draw from to explain a lot
about you know what goes on in american
politics why do you have joe manchin and
people like that elected into congress
uh well it's because of coal because the
progressives want to eliminate coal and
coal is the source of livelihood of the
people living in west virginia right and
then you have this whole understanding
of a materialist understanding of
political economy itself where it's
quite literally political economy that
america's regulatory kind of monopoly
state in conjunction with coal companies
and oil companies and car companies and
manufacturing
all form this kind of totality of an
american dream and an american way of
life which actually defined people's
living being and it defined their way of
life and it defined them as a class a
new type of class people it's not quite
the working class of the past which you
know had no country it was a working
class that somehow had a country that
had some investment or stake in the
state and you know most marxists are
going to define that as a labor
aristocracy but i i think that's
simplistic the the labor aristocracy
lenin talked about was like the upper
stratum of the labor movement this is a
mass phenomena that defined people from
the bottom up the very soil of the
people themselves right unless it
happened this kind of american dream can
also be translated in the soviet and
russian context because just like there
was an american dream there was also a
soviet green in the form of the soviet
economy itself the heavy industries of
the soviet working class that were
employed i mean this there was a soviet
dream the soviet worker right had a daca
in the con dacha in the countryside they
had a house or an apartment they had a
little farm if they were peasants
toiling on the soil they had a very
specific way of life that was tied to
heavy industry and to manufacturing
right they didn't have that service
economy bullshit they didn't have that
tech economy bullshit it was it's very
similar when you compare the american
economy the 20th century to the soviet
economy in the 20th century from a
sociological perspective there's a lot
of differences but there's also a lot of
similarities i mean both a lot of people
get pissed off by this but i mean you're
dealing with a situation where most of
the world is turning in a socialistic
direction the u.s included the state is
increasingly becoming a worker state
where its vast regulations and its vast
mechanisms of economic control have to
take into account people's ability to
like get by and it has to take social
considerations into account has to take
the life of the working class and the
american dream into account i'm not
saying the american state served the
working class it was a workers state a
sense of a proletarian dictatorship
clearly it was a state that served the
interests of financiers and financial
capitalists and capitalist monopolists
and city of london bankers and all those
kind of fucking spooky people whatever
right um
but this i'm just trying to say that
there were aspects of it that you could
you could vaguely collect if you're not
too autistic about it say it's a workers
state you know if you get autistic about
it really it's not a workers state but
to some extent the state and the economy
is being fashioned around the
reproduction of a very specific way of
life now the intention behind that as
far as the ruling class in the
bourgeoisie was concerned in the 20th
century was to make sure that the
working class would be satisfied and
complacent and wouldn't turn to
communism right so that was the reason
that was the motivation and that was the
intention behind that and i don't think
it was only that either i think to in a
certain extent the democratic party and
other parties did kind of you know
gained their mandate and their power
from this kind of working class um but
they were still captured and completely
beholden to these capitalists but there
was some measure of a state
infrastructure that had emerged that
wasn't directly controlled by the
capitalist class if that makes sense
like it was this arrangement you can
vaguely call it socialistic you can call
it whatever the fuck you want but it
existed for social reasons it didn't
just exist to make the capitalists rich
and ultimately figure it in the wider
imperialist state machinery sure
especially the system of global
imperialist control sure but the only
real evidence that you need that it
wasn't directly serving the interests of
capital lies in the fact that in the
so-called era of neoliberalism much like
the dismantlement of the ussr and the
soviet union itself this entire thing
was dismantled right it was it was
completely divested
the state ceased to invest in it the
people in west virginia were left behind
the people in ohio and detroit indiana
were left behind manufacturing was
outsourced to mexico and it was
outsourced overseas so very clearly that
degree of socialization that had
occurred after the post-war period
wasn't only to support profit there was
a degree of like american socialism that
emerged i mean say was ultimately
fascistic or social fascist and i'm open
to that interpretation as well but i i
don't buy the idea that it was just oh
this is just part of capital no it's
clearly this is a post not post
imperialist because it's still part of
imperialism right but it's it's it's
something beyond what lenin described in
imperialism is all i'm trying to say
right someone's in shoku um no yeah okay
this i'm gonna get through this lecture
and then we might be able to take in
collins if we have some time to spare
right because i want to get into this
deep dive of analysis so i'm going to
show you a map right now of what is
actually the part eastern ukraine and
the donbass region right so this was a
propaganda poster from the soviet period
and what you're witnessing here is that
this part is powering the entirety of
the soviet union's economy and its
industry so factories all over the
soviet union being powered by this now
what is this what actually is this well
where it is is in the eastern part of
ukraine it's in the dawn bass but what
is it well if you speak russian i think
it's here but it's cold so this is a
basin in eastern ukraine that was
responsible for the overwhelming
majority of the energy consumption of
the soviet union internally now the
soviet union was an oil exporting
country after the 1970s but in terms of
the internal consumption of energy that
fueled soviet industry itself um this
was coming from the uh donetsk basin
similar to west virginia right it's just
this part of soviet union just like how
west virginia virginia's a part of
america
which is a coal producing region okay
and that was actually the source of
livelihood for the people living here so
all of the infrastructure that was built
in the dunya in the donbass region right
all of the way of life the education the
facilities
the food that people consumed the way in
which they consume it all that was
through the wealth that was being um
created because of coal because of the
specific economic arrangement it had
with the rest of the soviet union so
and to give more context to give more
added context to this um to this day the
infrastructure the cities the towns that
exist in the donbass region are a
leftover of that soviet era so that's
the first thing i want you guys to keep
in mind and keep in in your head right
um it's a very important point i want
you guys to lodge it and keep it in your
heads that's the context of the donetsk
region now i'll show you a more
contemporary map show you the
significance coal still has thank you i
think slow expansion of socialism in u.s
is bad because it gives people enough
reason to not overthrow government as a
whole like marx intended no and the
reasons people have to overthrow the
government isn't to establish socialism
now that's a common myth a lot of people
will tell you oh we need a revolution to
create socialism anyone who tells you
that revolutions are about creating
socialism is a dumb fuck doesn't know
shit about history or marxism and is a
fucking lying dumb piece of shit okay
first of all marx talked about violent
revolutions within the context of
overthrowing the ancient regime so those
were revolutions that weren't being
created because of ideology but were
revolutions like the french revolution
that took form because of an antagonism
between a democratic petty bourgeoisie
from the countryside and the aristocrats
and feudal ancient regime so that was
actually the source of revolution
marx was talking about okay and marx was
basically saying that the proletarian
revolution is going to be like a cherry
on top of this and he said that in
places that have already had their
democratic revolution like the united
states or even england he said right
it's possible for a peaceful transition
to occur now the reason marx and engels
change their view about this is because
of the rise of the imperialist state
machinery which actually overturned a
bourgeois democracy right and it had to
be smashed into a thousand pieces marx
writes about this in his writings on the
civil war in france also in his writings
about the paris commune more generally
right and that isn't because again it's
not because of ideology it's because
contradiction is forming between the
vast state bureaucratic machinery and
this imperialist state machinery and
again uh the proverbial peasant in the
countryside in marx's case the french
peasant who's being indebted to banks um
and who's having all of their economic
life being sucked out of them again
through through rentier capitalist
feudal-like monopolists right so the
reasons violent revolutions happen
according to marxism is not because the
proletarian dictatorship should be
established it's not because of some
fucking ideological vision it's not
because of socialism it's not because of
any of those fucking things violent
revolution is an inev it's a
sociological phenomena it's what we call
today populism it's literally the same
thing it's a sociological phenomena
where the majority of people materially
enter into contradiction with the
establishment just as a general law of
social revolution right and the whole
point of ideology is to guide that not
to create it that's what happened in
russia the contradiction between the
peasants and russia and the the
the the czar and the nobility wasn't
because of ideology it was because there
was a genuine material contradiction
there which the bolsheviks only led
that's why they said peace land and
bread and not socialism they didn't say
any of that shit they said peace land
and bread because they were leading that
revolution okay so yeah i know that's a
lot of time taken up for one super chat
but it's something i just need to always
stress time and time again that it's
just such a common myth people arrive at
that that revolutions are because of you
know whatever so anyway this is a more
contemporary map
of ukraine and look at this okay so
so here this region of ukraine produces
18.4
billion tons of coal 15.6 billion tons
of coal 5.3 billion tons of coal so this
is the donetsk dunyettes region we're
talking about here in ukraine um
so
nationally speaking yes these people are
russian speakers many are ethnic
russians
but what is the more fundamental
connection that they have to russia that
is actually responsible for the conflict
at large well it has a lot to do again
with coal now after the fall of the
soviet union okay
um
investing in coal well a few things
happen right and this is true for both
russia
and it's true for ukraine and this is
actually going to be the formative
context of the maidan protests which is
why the story of how ukraine and russia
got to this point is actually kind of
more like a tragedy rather than a
one-sided story of good versus evil it's
more like a tragedy
ukraine had most of soviet heavy
industry it was built specifically to
cooperate with russian industry the
separation of russia and ukraine was
particularly painful the atlanticist
plan thank you so much chris morlock i
appreciate so much the that super chat
thank you so much man anyway um when the
soviet union collapsed i'm sure you guys
know what happened you had an oligarchic
class emerge both in russia and in
ukraine so all of the industry as
morlock himself pointed out that was
built up under the soviet union
throughout all of ukraine not just
eastern ukraine all of ukraine was
bought out by these oligarchs right and
what oligarchs basically did is that
they privatized socialism they kept
these very vast companies and entities
intact that were kind of like fractures
of they were kind of little pieces of
the soviet giant central planning what
the oligarchs did is they consolidated
all of these kinds of means of
production in the form of these like
privatized socialistic
equity companies and general companies
and whatever
bundled them all together into this kind
of like private form of a mini centrally
planned economy and private kingdom
where the a lot of people need to
understand this much of the necrosis of
the soviet industry is because of the
oligarchs the oligarchs are parasites
what they did is that they took all of
the infrastructure
that was built under the soviet union
and they turned those into financial
speculative assets they didn't invest in
them they didn't update any of the
infrastructure they just extract rent
from that infrastructure from the former
soviet peoples in order to turn them
into like financial assets which are
then integrated into the world of
international finance and offshore
companies through the city of london and
all that kind of stuff
so basically the soviet economy wasn't
actually dissolved a lot of people think
oh socialism was abolished well
ideologically yeah but in terms of that
like centrally planned economy in
general it was divided up into little
bits and pieces where these like new
lords these for all intents and purposes
feudal lords took over these segments of
this wider soviet planned economy and
they kept them running and kept them
intact but
they charge the right the former soviet
population like these rents in order to
be able to live so these are like
literally like vampire parasites who
took over segments of the former soviet
economy right
and unlike the soviet union they didn't
reinvest in this stuff they didn't
update it in any kind of way or
integrated into like this greater
polarity or greater whole that benefits
the whole people you know as a holistic
entity they turned them into financial
assets and instruments integrated into a
world of international finance centered
in the city of london i should add and
and wall street and whatever right
basically turning them into parts of the
kind of western polarity now russia's
game-changing nationalization of the oil
industry under putin was pretty much the
first act that offset that and
established some form of economic
sovereignty now when we're talking about
economic sovereignty i wanna
don't just like let that fly over your
head i actually want you to think about
what that entails economic sovereignty
means you basically are having a part of
your economy that is being organized
around serving your economy and serving
your sphere so in this case russia's oil
industry allows the russian government
to invest in its population it allows
them to build russian industries it
allows them to fuel and power a russian
economy right whereas in the oligarchic
type of arrangement of the
privatizations of the 1990s both in
ukraine and in the former
sorry and in russia you had these basic
parasites gobble up
big pieces of the former soviet planned
economy um keep the people who relied on
them in order to survive on a lifeline
and basically charge them rent to
continue existing and subsisting on them
so basically i want to like give you a
better representation of what that would
be like right so let's say
you were like on life support in a
hospital right and that was basically
kind of free right i just put it that
way and some guy comes and and takes
over the life support with a gun
and he says i'm gonna call your mother
every hour she's gonna give me five
dollars or i'm gonna unplug your life
support that's pretty much how the
oligarchic organization of the economy
is is in ukraine and russia right it's
like they're basically
holding these things that are the life
support of the people living in these
regions and they're they're they're it's
they're not even like good capitalists a
lot of people think oh russia became a
capitalist economy well technically in
an ideal world a capitalist you know
makes an investment and then gets a
return on their investment but in this
case you just have this kind of
privatization of a very stagnant and
decaying form of socialism where it's
like they're not in it's not like
they're making profits based on returns
on on risky investments they're holding
these gargantuan bits and pieces of the
former soviet infrastructure and
charging people who relied on them as a
source of livelihood and subsistence in
order to squeeze out not profits and
this is the most fascinating part of
this entire dilemma that's why you can't
understand this conflict from like an
anti-capitalist traditional critique of
capitalism perspective but from rents
right from rents of the financial
economy right so
haas can you debate michael moore yeah i
could debate this guy if he gets in my
fucking vc okay i could definitely
debate him okay stop spamming my chat
michael get in my fucking vc or get
banned forever it's simple as that you
stupid fuck and by the way russia
doesn't pretend to be a liberal
democratic country that's why you dumb
fuck if the west wants to come forward
and admit we live in a fascist fucking
state then it can fucking do that and
and and cure the repercussions that
comes from violating the fucking social
contract that is the bedrock of order
and stability the reason people don't
fucking take up torches and pitchforks
like thomas jefferson talked about is
because we have constitutional liberties
if they want to create a new arrangement
where they want to be an illiberal
democracy then they can go ahead and
step forward and tell the people that
that's what we're living under until
then you gotta still have that free
speech because that's the understanding
that our people and the government have
come to since 1776. that's my fucking
answer to you you stupid dumb fuck now
stop fucking spamming my fucking chat
especially when you say something so
fucking stupid okay as i was saying
before okay i want to give you a broad
picture of the oligarch economy so what
did you learn from this okay hey the
soviet union collapsed
the soviet economy was still the source
of survival and livelihood for the
majority of people living under it what
happened is that this soviet economy was
privatized by
these parasitical financial capitalists
who did not reinvest in the
infrastructure but merely kept that on a
lifeline leaving both it and the people
relying on it to decay left behind while
extracting rents not profits from them
and these rents in turn were turned into
financial
derivative as speculative assets
derivative assets basically that were
integrated into the world capitalist
financial market through the city of
london and its offshore companies yada
yada yada wall street and the rest of it
so that's the basic rundown of the
picture that's forming the context of
this entire thing okay i want you to
keep that in mind as we go forward keep
what i just told you in mind okay and
stop fucking being distracted in the
chat do i have to start banning people
because this shit is important you know
i don't i'm sick of this being a
community of dumb fucks yeah go ahead
and just spam z's in my chat but you
don't actually want to be fucking
educated you don't want to be educated
about what's fucking going on in the
first place you want to just spam z's in
the fucking chat bunch of dumb fucks
stop fucking focusing on one dumbass
who's too much of a pussy to get in my
fucking vc if you don't get in my v okay
mods ban everyone who doesn't get in my
vc who talks shit because clearly people
are getting too fucking distracted by
bullshit when what i'm talking about is
actually fucking important right damn
you want to just spam z's and shit but
you don't want to actually think about
this in any kind of fucking way it's
fucking pathetic okay anyway like i was
saying now the main thing that upset
this arrangement was
putin's rise to power now a lot of
people underestimate the extent to which
there was a level of continuity between
the yeltsin regime which was completely
captured by the oligarchs and putin
there was continuity putin was appointed
by yeltsin so the reason putin came to
represent russian sovereignty is the the
fact of the matter that we now have to
address okay
because putin again was appointed he
wasn't a populist he was appointed okay
he didn't rise to power as like a
caesarean populist like hugo chavez or
any he was appointed by yeltsin okay now
some deeper context here the context of
putin
is politics specifically geopolitics the
first form of a major rift between the
west and russia was yugoslavia it was
serbia and yeltsin actually this was the
first form of the expression of some
kind of like it wasn't just yugoslavia
there's a lot of unresolved shit
in abkhazia in south ossetia in
transnistria and elsewhere right russia
was thrown into this situation where
even yeltsin and the oligarchs
supporting him had to be russian
patriots in some kind of sense now why
was it in the interest of the
parasitical oligarchic class to kind of
adopt a russian geopolitical vision well
the reason is pretty simple because in
order to be able to maintain the steady
flow of financial rents that they were
extracting from the privatization of the
former soviet economy they had to
consider russia
as a bloc with its own interests that it
has to defend i mean it they're
basically tried to turn russia into a
cartel one big cartel enterprise whose
interest they were willing to defend on
that basis okay and this is basically
going to like define
the entire tragical contradiction that
defines russia's current geopolitical
predicament okay when putin was
appointed putin made the decision to
nationalize
russia's gas industry basically
cementing the first form of russian
economic sovereignty and at that point
the very same al and also by the way the
geopolitical issue was chechnya right
and that's what putin dealt with and so
on and so on and that's that whole issue
of geopolitics defending russia's
territorial sovereignty right as a kind
of cartel for these oligarchs but putin
would then turn against these oligarchs
for reasons that may relate to personal
ideology something like that but putin
did cross the rubicon and his julius
caesar moment was when he decided to
nationalize the russian oil industry
turn against the oligarchs right and
start to derive his mandate from the
russian people so in a way and this may
come to a shock to many of you russia
became more democratic now in talks with
us diplomats russian oligarchs ad
verbatim said russia is not a western
country russia is an asiatic country so
we cannot have an immediate transition
to democracy we have to have an
oligarchy because russians are too
savage and uncivilized to be able to be
democratic and rule based on a
majoritarian you know uh
rule by the people the people are too
stupid and uncivilized to rule so us
oligarchs have to be in charge almost ad
verbatim when they were sitting down
with us diplomats this is what the
oligarchs had told the americans well
putin um was increasing the
democratization of russia by having the
actual source of legitimation and
sovereignty of the russian state not
come from a select group of oligarchic
rulers but come from more or less a
popular mandate of the russian people
now putin is not a savior of the russian
people i want you guys to to understand
that he's not like some julius caesar
communist and he's all doing it out of
the goodness of his heart and it's
because he's a socialist or he's doing
it for ideological reason
reasons putin was confronted with like a
a rubicon and just to be a normal
centrist right it's like nationalizing
the oil industry will give the russian
state a definite source of revenue with
which it will be able to sustain
the russian people on a lifeline because
the oligarchs are not able to do this in
a disparate dissipated way so under
putin's reign and this is where we're
gonna really start talking about the
tragical aspect of this um you still had
the same level of decay
necrosis
and
stagnation that defined the rule of the
oligarchs the only difference is that
there was increasingly a semblance of a
new type of russia i mean moscow sure as
hell got a hell of a renovation
under putin's reign
and other parts of russia admittedly as
well other stuff was going on but for
the majority of the russian people um
you know they were living in the same
way that people in in ukraine was
basically living in a lifeline
but
lifeline being pensions pensions for the
elderly um the kind of menial jobs
the working class as they had before and
then moscow also represented this kind
of more urban economy with more urban
oriented jobs or and then also you had
this immense flight from russia the
brain drain and people migrants going to
the west young people looking for
opportunities there but also moscow did
turn start to be a bedrock for new
entrepreneurs and and new kind of
startups and new kinds of businesses
that was enabled by this newfound
russian economic sovereignty all of
these things undermined the oligarchs
right so russia is in this steady steady
state of basic survival survival people
pensioners are still getting their money
the russian people are surviving and
enduring that's not nothing because in
the 90s they were dying they were dying
of early mortality they were dying they
weren't being supported by the state
there was nothing
they were dying right so they're
surviving under putin but under putin
you still have stagnation you still have
some of that same oligarchic control of
the former soviet economy you still have
that necrosis you still have that
parasitism you still have this kind of
sale of the russian people to the
western financial capitalist world
market in the form of derivative and
speculative assets right this is true
not only for russia but for the entire
former soviet world russia's stagnating
now under medvedev uh they wanted to
even get closer to the west to
geopolitically to conciliatory with them
for geopolitical reasons they couldn't
now let me tell you uh uh let me give
you a picture right now of um
ukraine's exports russia and russia's
exports to ukraine now here you can
clearly see these are all heavy industry
i mean these are all heavy and so these
are kind of manufactured goods and these
are more um what do you call it primary
processed raw materials these are kind
of more chemicals this is um iron and
steel and things like that these are
kinds of like manufactured industrial
goods so this is basically what ukraine
is exporting to russia right but you
have to understand that these are all
controlled under the uh these are so i
want you to think of it like the
intestines of the soviet economy ripped
out right and privatized under the
control of oligarchs and oligarchic
families
and
there was a semblance of a centrally
planned soviet economy and the bits and
pieces of this economy we're now being
privatized by these like feudal lords
right who are extracting monopoly rents
feudal-like monopoly rents in order to
facilitate similar levels of economic um
activity that happened in the soviet
union so like the iron that ukraine is
exporting to russia
was probably also iron that
that factories or whatever based in
russia were getting from ukraine as well
so the semblance of this former soviet
economy is being kept on a lifeline
right um
now what were what
what really underlied the history that
led to the maidan and the
dissatisfaction with russia and the
dissatisfaction with putin well
stagnation continued to more or less
define the whole russian sphere russia
itself and ukraine under yanukovych yes
survival survival yes but innovation
opportunity no those are the things that
we're missing and kind of understandably
in the more developed parts of western
ukraine people were fed up with the old
arrangement they were fed up with the
corrupt oligarchic class so there came
to be this kind of like illusion by the
population and this is what makes it a
fucking tragedy guys this is literally
the crux
of what we're talking about which is
like there's many forms of utopias
people have when they become
dissatisfied with the status quo and
with the prevailing system right and a
ukraine western ukraine's case the
utopia was europe there was this
illusion this idea that increased
economic integration with europe is
going to lead to you know the the um the
enrichment of the ukrainian you know
democratic petty bourgeoisie and
startups and entrepreneurs and this
hungry youth that are looking for
opportunities oh we'll all get it from
increased economic cooperation with with
europe and with western europe right and
and europe became this utopia it became
this utopic vision right so when
yanukovych um so this is the tragedy
though so yanukovych pressured by the
western ukrainian population and also
because he was not actually loyal to
russia in the first place decided to
pursue european economic integration so
he went to brussels and he went to
belgium and he told the leaders he told
the head of the eu he said listen he
told the euro bank he told all these
people he said listen i am willing to
join you i'm willing to ditch russia and
join you my oligarchs who back me
also want this to happen right we're
done with russia russia's you know those
people they're dead beat they're they're
wasteful we don't we can't get any more
profits from them our oligarchs are
hungry for profit they need more profits
so yeah we'll we'll join you europe and
we'll ditch russia but this is how
economically dependent we're on with
russia now so if we ditch russia and
join you
you have to give us loans and you have
to give us aid and bail out our economy
and help us what did brussels tell
yanukovych brussels told yanukovych no
way jose we're not going to invest in
you ukrainians you lowly ukrainians we
don't believe in you you're not an
investment that's worth it to us if you
join the european union yeah we'll use
you as an economic colony for cheap
labor and migrant labor oh boy yeah and
we're going to extract your raw
materials and you know use you as a debt
colony more or less but seriously
restructure your economy and fill the
hole left behind by russia no way europe
refused to agree to what ukraine needed
in order to join europe
and leave russia behind that's the story
behind this and when
yanukovych decided to abandon pursuing
economic integration with europe not
because he didn't want to
but because europe refused to actually
um fulfill what ukraine would have
needed to do that there you had maidan
we have to ask this question beyond
america's intervention right beyond
america's intervention um beyond the cia
interference and all that shit let's
just put that behind why were so many
people in kiev and western ukraine angry
with the government that oh we're not
joining europe because you're in bed
with russia because this is the
impression they had in their mind they
thought
okay
europe represents for me economic
opportunity it represents a future for
us it represents us to be able to you
know update our infrastructure have just
have a semblance of a future ahead where
we don't have to be in stagnation and
decay and corruption for so long right
so
that was the thought that they had in
their head and when they when yanukovych
turned his back on on the european
integration thing they were like he only
did this because of putin and he only
did this because of russia because of
the corruption of the oligarchs the same
oligarchs that they associated with this
stagnant post-soviet world right so they
thought basically that it's almost as if
putin is preventing us the russian world
is prevent presenting us our blackened
soviet past is preventing us from having
any more economic opportunities and
we're stuck in this hellish decay and
stagnation of the former soviet world
and we're going to blame it all on
russia the truth is more tragic
it's not yanukovych it's not putin it's
not even the oligarchs that are the
reason europe rejected you europe
rejected you because europe doesn't care
about ukraine europe doesn't care about
ukrainians europe doesn't see them as
equal europe had no intention of
investing in ukraine and helping
ukrainians no longer become dependent on
russia because the europeans have
nothing historically to do with ukraine
when germany invaded ukraine in world
war ii they had a plan to starve anyone
there and loot all the fucking resources
and have german settlers settle the land
they are entirely different peoples
europeans don't give a fuck about
ukraine that's the tragic truth that's
why yanukovych couldn't pursue european
economic integration that's why but the
maidan protesters angry with the
corruption and angry with the stagnation
angry with the lack of opportunity
decided that europe was their utopia
okay and it was a kind of like deranged
form of utopian socialism that quickly
transformed into a very scary nazism and
genocidal fascism where their dream came
at the expense of reality and that
russians are getting in the way of our
dream so that's the scenario you have in
the western ukraine right now going from
heaven to earth from dreamland back to
reality you have the people of eastern
ukraine now the people of eastern
ukraine are getting by they're getting
by through economic aid getting by
through vestigial industries from the
soviet era and yeah there's not a lot of
improvement or whatever but they're
primarily focused with just not starving
and just having some lifeline right so
they see what's going on in the maidan
and they quite correctly see is like
these people want to destroy everything
they want to destroy everything we have
and they want to destroy us as a people
because we ourselves only exist because
of the soviet past our infrastructure
our way of life our culture
our ability to get an income everything
about us
comes from the soviet past and you want
to take all of that away and destroy us
so it's almost like this is the tragedy
in western ukraine it became a kind of
struggle for becoming and struggle for
future and transformation but in eastern
ukraine it was a struggle for being a
struggle for surviving and a struggle to
defend the past right so
you basically had a very tragic
situation where
both people in russia and in ukraine are
not necessarily aware of the fact that
the reason you're stagnating the reason
you don't have these new opportunities
the reason you don't have this kind of
like you know reinvestment in your own
people the reason nobody's willing to
invest in you
the people
whether it's europe or whether it's this
you know necrophiliac kind of
post-soviet oligarchic economy it's very
simple it's because russia turned away
from communism and communism was the
only fucking thing that invested in
these people it turned from an economy
that was based in what's in the best
interests of the common people to an
economy that was based on liberal
capitalist bullshit free market
principles which in reality translated
into abandoning in almost a genocidal
way the people and leaving them to rot
at best
or or allowing them to subsist at best
and leaving them to decay and die
at worst that's the entire context
that's informing this situation people
who were angry with the yanukovych
government were not necessarily at fault
it's just that they articulated it in
the wrong way in a delusionary and
illusory way the real enemy of the
ukrainian people
also never forget how almost immediately
after healthcare was privatized in the
russian federation nearly seven million
rural russians died from lack of health
care now necrosis and decay rises in
ukraine and oligarchs think they own the
russian people holy fuck voidbring thank
you so much for the 50 man and i agree
yeah appreciate it so much appreciate it
so much man i appreciate that so much
but um
the bottom line guys is that the enemy
of the ukrainian and russian people
alike it's not a national issue when you
think about it like this it's a class
issue with a civilizational context the
civilization created by the soviet union
it's these oligarchs who converted the
post-soviet economy into a feudalistic
rentier state where they extract from
the lifeblood
of the former soviet peoples while
giving nothing back and investing
nothing in them especially investing
nothing in the youth and investing
nothing in the new generation okay so
you may ask me a question haas then why
do you support russia when russia also
has these people in power because you
have to understand the context of the
revolution that's going on in the
russian world which is for all intents
and purposes also a social and class
revolution
against the oligarchs and that's
something i'm going to explain to you if
you don't understand what i'm talking
about now because that's what's really
going on since the revolutions
they're very much heideggerian
revolutions for being in eastern ukraine
who had a profound class and social
revolution initiate which will
undoubtedly spread to russia even if it
comes at the expense of putin himself
i'll show it to you now check this out
this is a story
published by the new york times on march
4th 2014 and why am i showing you an
article from 2014 because in the eastern
ukraine immediately after the maidan
which
duped the urbanites of western ukraine
into actually serving the interests of
oligarchic factions of the post-soviet
world that were against russia as
tensions rose on the streets of the
russian-speaking eastern portion of
ukraine the response of the new
government in the capital on sunday was
not to send troops but to send rich
people keep in mind this is march 2nd
2014. the interim government worried
about russian efforts to destabilize or
seize regions in eastern ukraine after
effectively taking control of the
crimean peninsula in the south is
recruiting the country's wealthy
businessmen known as oligarchs to serve
as governors of the eastern provinces so
as these eastern provinces were up in
arms and were in turmoil trying to kind
of rebel against the new junta to give
you an idea
of the maidan government
the response they had to that thank you
so much upstream in a minute sorry
twitch dogged you but glad that you're
still out here grinding and crushing it
cuddy thank you so much sankara's
renault i appreciate you so much man
well as a basic response to that right
what they did was
send literal oligarchs to be the
governors of these eastern provinces to
reign in on these people now when i said
feudal lords that was kind of like a
metaphor but in this case it seems like
it's direct now wait until you hear
about who these oligarchs are so the
strategy which ukrainian news media are
attributing to yulia v
timoshenko a former prime minister and
party leader is recognition that the
oligarchs represent the country's
industrial and business elite and
exercise a great influence over
thousands of workers in the east which
is still largely ethnically russian now
what kind of influence do they exercise
these oligarchs own the industries in
eastern ukraine they own the coal mines
they own the mines they own the
factories and the russian workers are
their employees
the office of president oleksir
v
turchinov announced on sunday the
appointments of two billionaires sergey
tartura let's look up this guy sergey
tartura what does he do
sergey tartura is the founder of the
industrial union of donbass what is the
industrial union of donbass it's an it
owns order over 40 industrial
enterprises in eastern ukraine hungary
and poland um there you go i'm not sure
what happened to its holdings in eastern
ukraine exactly but this guy
was up this oligarch who i literally
just described to you the the industries
he owns heard about you through jackson
i loved how you tore apart destiny
always good to hear independent voices
that don't bow to the establishment
thank you so much curtis i appreciate it
so much man that is appreciated man um
when i i mean this guy he says he owns
industrial enterprises these are all
enterprises created by communist
infrastructure communism created these
enterprises this fucking parasite just
gobbled them up and put them into a
fucking holding company so that's like
the definition of what we're talking
about
when it comes to an oligarch now who
else are they mentioning they're talking
about ihor colum kolomoski you've
probably heard of that name before um
but if you haven't this guy is the
he owns where is it he owns the uh
yeah pre-vet bank he owns yeah he owns
that's just a fucking private football
club it doesn't matter this is they
sometimes these oligarchs buy football
clubs like that guy uh abramovic owns
chelsea or whatever so this was a
private bank that owned and this is
where you're gonna get the money
right when 2016 it was nationalized
supposedly but he owns the vet group
yeah pre-vet group there it is it's not
just a bank it's a group so it controls
thousands of companies of virtually
every industry in ukraine
steel oil gas chemical
energy the prime influence and expertise
you can bet what that means for eastern
ukraine as well this is the pre-vet
group understand so these two guys were
appointed the governors of eastern
ukraine so
and and all over you this isn't just
eastern ukraine all over ukraine
oligarchs were appointed directly into
positions of power to lord over the
people of if it wasn't enough that they
fucking owned the commonwealth of the
former soviet peoples economically they
also owned it now politically right this
is from
march 19th 2014. oligarch governor seeks
aid to keep donbass ukrainian so in this
article you're basically going to see
him say some shit like oh my god the
kremlin funded militants are calling
moscow to step in and shake charge and
they're they're taking over everything
and western countries need to react very
quickly and give us aid we need urgent
economic and humanitarian aid in the
dawn bass or these militants are going
to take over so let me tell you what's
going on
a big broad picture is about to be
painted here um this is also from the
carnegie institute and it's called
ukraine's kingdom of oligarchs so a year
after the collapse of yanukovych's
government hope that the new ukrainian
can check the power of the oligarchs and
install a new generation of reform minor
leads is shaky at best right so
ukraine's government officials and their
backers in the west tend to focus on
russia's aggression this is from 2015 by
the way right so it brought down
yanukovych it didn't diminish the role
oligarchs playing ukrainian politics or
to legitimize fully the power of the
central government especially in the
eyes of oligarchs right maidan was a
tragedy again a tragedy it's a tragedy
the people were duped to be an
instrument of this oligarchic
inter-oligarchic squash squabbles right
between ukrainian oligarchs and russian
oligarchs um they were united against
yanukovych step by step funded key
resistance groups and that's a thing
like me and jackson focused a ton
on western funding for the maidan but
looking back we should have actually
focused a lot on the way these oligarchs
were funding the maidon as well right
because they'll yanukovych's um grip on
power directly threatened their in their
um interests maidan was a people power
movement directed because yanukovych was
getting closer to russia and russia the
oligarchs as a class are declining and
losing power right again we have to
understand this within the frame of
class warfare
that's exactly what i intend i wrote an
article for cpi news that cover
kolominsky's ties it's on the cpi
website thank you so much chris morlock
appreciate you a ton man thank you so
much it was none other than dimitro for
tosh who despite being under house
arrest in vienna reportedly forged the
deal that united the political parties
led by poroshenko and vitale klitschko
ahead of the may presidential election
ukraine continues to be run by oligarchs
today yet the power dynamics between
oligarchy groups has shifted
dramatically most importantly the
overall influence of the traditional
power brokers with control over
ukraine's metallurgical and coal assets
is waning having lost 5.8 billion
dollars of his net worth in 2014 renee
ahmet of ukraine's richest man before
the war appears to be the biggest loser
however he remains powerful and has the
ability to broker relationships between
kiev and donbass where he still controls
assets
he has ties with this guy the
self-proclaimed leader of the donetsk
people's republic and he's widely
believed to be working with forces on
both sides of the ceasefire line his
energy business however has come under
pressure from fellow oligarch ighor
kolomowski
until recently was believed to be the
biggest winner of the post-maidan era in
terms of political influence the war in
the dawn best has led to a rise of
patriotism across the country the
population in southeastern ukraine
continues to harbor pro-russian
sympathies of course that does not mean
many residents of the region actually
want to be ruled by moscow this is uh
whatever their attitudes are this is in
2015. archive in eastern city remains
vulnerable to separatist-led violence
blah blah blah okay so this is this kind
of broad picture of the maidan actually
increasing the power of the oligarchs to
heights that have never been seen before
right is the basic broad picture we're
we're rolling with here right the
question is what is the significance
actually of this revolution in novorcia
of the proclamation of the donetsk
people's republics bohansk people's
republics and now with ukraine's special
operation
the wider sentiment within russia and
the way the winds are turning within
russia um because of the war what you
have going on is a situation in which
these people who are a bad investment
left behind and kept purely on a
lifeline by these oligarchs and by this
oligarchic economy and by both to a
certain extent the ukrainian and russian
governments respectively are now taking
up arms and establishing forms of
political power which remember forms out
of the barrel of a gun and remember it's
political power in chechnya and
elsewhere that got put into power in the
first place that is coming at the
expense of the power of the oligarchs
whose rule mind you is not simply as as
it is with capitalists based on their
ownership of certain types of property
but is based on their ownership
and their capture of the state right so
with guns people in the dawn bass are
finally rising to the occasion of
defending themselves as a people not
only are people worth investing in as
far as economic measures are concerned
as far as the economic policy is
concerned but as the ends
of
regional statehood of both russian
statehood and well not ukrainian states
anymore but of the state new russian
state that's going to emerge which
emerges nova rocia so you have to
understand the immense social revolution
that is now at hand these people did not
have the revolutionary aspirations of
the western ukrainians the western
ukrainians were sick of the situation
they just started rioting and went to
the streets and destroying things people
in eastern ukraine no matter how fucked
over they were didn't have a revolution
like that uh where they're going on
rioting on the streets and and whatever
to cause change they're defending the
ability to maintain the status quo just
like in the iranian revolution that's
why i'm calling it a heidegarian
revolution it's just that the status quo
isn't what you think it is the status
quo
is the essence
let's just say the da sign of soviet
civilization just like in the chinese
revolution with the chinese peasants you
can have the chinese civilization but
don't assume you know what that looks
like it doesn't necessarily entail
agrarian backwardness and all the rest
of that this revolution that the people
in eastern ukraine are fighting is a
hydarian revolution it's not a
revolution to go out on the street and
implement change it's a revolution to
defend what they have and what is under
dispute is precisely what they have and
this is precisely what does undermine
the power of the oligarchs because now
what is being brought to the forefront
is the existence
of the russian peoples and the former
soviet peoples at large if you will but
specifically the russian peoples of
russia as a civilization right
whether or not the ends and aims of this
polarity and this mode of production
will be about them them
their way of life
their culture their inheritance of the
soviet union their wealth and their
living being the economic consequences
of this we haven't even seen as far as
the system that's now in place we can
expect nationalizations to be possible
the oligarchs to have their power
completely undermined a true revolution
for the reinvestment into the peoples of
russia i mean you want to talk about a
democratic revolution these were regions
that were ruled by oligarchs the donetsk
people's republic and the lugongs
people's republic chose leaders based on
elections based on what the people
wanted what we're witnessing is a kind
of bourgeois democratic revolution and
that's an outdated archaic term but it's
an authentic democratic revolution it's
like a revolution like
1776 was a revolution where they're
breaking up the grip on political power
that the oligarchs have in order so that
the state cannot be used as an arm of
financial monopoly oligarchic
capitalists this is unprecedented
fertile soil for an up-and-coming petty
bourgeoisie to be able to have its
chance in the sun a new era for the
russian people a new era for a russian
economy a genuine and authentic
democratic revolution it's a democratic
revolution it's a progressive democratic
revolution
that's really the crux of what we're
talking about here a progressive
democratic revolution that's the story
people have been missing here soviet
democracy was destroyed by an oligarchic
regime from a materialist perspective
this democratic revolution its
implications are open-ended i mean it's
not even clear whether putin is going to
survive them the russian people have
been awakened to such an extent you
can't put that back in the box they are
no longer accepting the necrosis
and the decay of their soviet past they
want to rise to the occasion of
acknowledging their sphere their
polarity as something worth not only
fighting for with arms but worth
establishing for as the ultimate ends of
a political economy the russian sphere
the russian world is vlast this
civilization is now something that's
going to be worth investing in it's
going to be something worth investing in
because people are investing now with
something more worth more than all the
money in the fucking world and that's
their own blood you don't think that's
the epoch defining thing that define
that even comes before capital it does
capitalism emerged from the context of
war from the english civil war to the 30
days war the ability for the sovereign
to exercise their power through blood is
the definitive context that laid the
groundwork for modernity except in this
case we don't have the abstract
sovereign leviathan of modernity we have
the vlast and the polarity of the
russian world asserting itself and
paying for that in blood through war
through arms through life itself are we
looking at the revival of the soviet
union no we're looking at
something that even goes beyond the
soviet union we're looking at an
awakening which i still believe the
communist party of the russian
federation is best equipped to provide
the necessary leadership for the maidan
was a false revolution it was a false
overthrow of the oligarchs this is the
real revolution that's now happening you
know about all the talk of nationalizing
assets and completely changing the
economy if you want to know how drastic
the changes are you just have to consult
the changes in symbolism that are being
discussed i mean look at this the
communist party of the russian
federation is seriously proposing
through a bill it's submitting to the
state duma to establish the flag of the
ussr
as the official flag of russia they are
the ones spearheading this
and leading the way and why is that
because they represent
from the very beginning the independence
movements of the donbass from the very
beginning supporting crimea's joining an
ascension to joining the russian
federation communist party of the
russian federation from the very
beginning spearheading and representing
the former soviet peoples and the
russian peoples left behind that's where
it draws its material bedrock of support
from them i don't know how else to cut
it to you guys if you're not already
convinced russia's returning to
greatness from a materialist perspective
russia is returning to greatness russia
is becoming a great power again and it's
not just because of its special
operation in ukraine it's because
there's a social revolution going on in
russia there's a class
struggle and social revolution going on
in russia that is dethroning the power
of the oligarchic class and what's next
for this this is an open question it's
an open book the
the
enslavement
and the sale of russia and its wealth to
international financial capitalism is
over russia is now going to draw its
wealth through a the strength and power
of its own people and b this is what i
didn't get a lot of time to talk about
yet further economic integration china