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everyone

Welcome to the Infrared Webcast.

Welcome, welcome, welcome.

We uh have entered a new stage where part of the news that we cover is actually going to be news we ourselves have a hand in producing, namely news about the American Communist Party.

And I'm excited to share with you some news on that front.

Ooh, I have other news I can't tell you about it though.

I really can't tell you about that news.

You'll find out in a few weeks.

I'll be the first one to tell you.

Ah, but it's big, big news.

Anyway, guys.

I have some smaller news, which is nice.

So, our director of personnel, I want everyone to give a round of applause for Kyle, executive board member and director of personnel, because he has vetted well over 100 members who are part of chapters.

We have several, more than a several, what's more than seven?

How do I say that?

Anyway, more than several chapters have officially become vetted and accepted, and along with those several chapters, hundreds of members.

Okay, and we still have hundreds of members more, a lot, many hundreds more to vet.

But Kyle has been doing this work non-stop in his capacity as the director of personnel.

And give it a round of applause for Kyle.

We will probably be approaching in the coming days.

Uh we're gonna broadly open the party up a little more to the public.

Um, because we have pretty much we're pretty much don't shoot me if I'm wrong about this, guys.

I'm talking about the team working on it.

I think we vetted everyone who we had on like the high priority list who was already like uh rik really ready to just join right away.

There's m there's others, many others we have to process, but

It was supposed to be last night, but there were some technical issues with the website.

Darg is working on it, and he has told me that tomorrow, that is when the website chapters should start appearing.

And they will be given social media accounts, which will be on the website itself in the coming days.

But watch out for imposters, because they're going to come.

This is probably when the imposters are going to start coming.

Again, we are the biggest victim of false flags on the internet by far.

People make accounts pretending to be affiliated with us in order to discredit us and embarrass us.

And our crazy psycho stalkers will take a screenshot of it and it'll go super viral.

Totally not Fed boosted, by the way.

Uh, so we built technology to mitigate and prevent that fact.

So, unless it appears on the website, there's no, there's not going to have their own social media chapters unless those appear on the website.

Uh, and watch out for imposters big time, okay?

Anything you see that's not vetted.

I already see, uh, you know what?

I don't want to call them out to embarrass them, but I already see one.

There's one that I DM'd and they fixed it and they understand.

There's another one still going around calling themselves the social official social media account of some chapter.

And I don't think those guys are feds or whatever, or I don't think they're false flagging, but they are misusing what a chapter social media account should be doing.

To be clear,

You guys can still have your own guerrilla accounts or your personal accounts or whatever.

But the chapter accounts are not here for you to jibber jabber and yip yap and issue official statements and and talk about and post memes.

I mean, memes are fine, but I mean, like, post like uh thought.

Thought pieces, or just, I don't know, like apologetics or theory.

Like, that's not what it's for.

You're not supposed to be using these chapter accounts to just, like,

Yip, yap, okay.

You're supposed to use them to actually talk about specifically what your chapter is actually doing, okay.

And you know, once you uh apply as a chapter, you get uh social media guidelines.

That's all the chapters already have them that are in waiting for their social media accounts.

They have social media guidelines and um

Pretty exciting.

In the coming week, I think we're going to start seeing some activity.

And, you know, we are not, and I want to, this is going to be the only time I want to address this.

We are not Trotskyites, okay?

So we are definitely taking the slow and steady, you know, realistic path, socialism in one country kind of deal.

None of this, like, extremely, you know, bombastic permanent revolution spectacles or whatever.

We are slowly but surely working our way toward the very realistic goals we have set about for ourselves.

And with that being said, speaking of the devil.

There is a Trotskyite cult.

I don't know what it is, but it's been around for a very long time.

I think, what are they, IMT or something?

I don't know.

I don't actually know which one, but I just know they've been around for like decades.

Yeah, it's the IMT or whatever, or it's a rebrand of the IMT.

And they I'm only mentioning them because they've gotten a lot of attention by

You know, putting on a very big spectacle outside with red flags and a considerable amount of people.

And they said, This is the launch of our party.

And well, I thought your party launched like a months ago or something.

Like, I don't know.

Well, I don't care.

It's not, it's besides the point.

Anyway, I just find it funny because I saw one of these guys make a snide remark where they were like, oh, look at the comparison between our launch and ACPs.

This is how you do a real launch.

This is, so it's like.

First of all, all we did is declare the party.

We just declared the party.

Our inaugural event is going to be in September.

All we did is declare the party.

That was what we meant by the launch.

We i i it wasn't our first congress or our inaugural event or something like that.

It was just our declaration of the party.

And why didn't we make that more of a spectacle?

And I this is actually what I want to talk about.

We didn't make that more of a spectacle, and I want you to listen to my words carefully, because many of you are already communists or prospective communists, and by communist I mean capital C Communist, who's a member of the American Communist Party.

So this is very important for you.

It's very important we have a sense of shameless and confident presence and authority.

And I I totally agree with that.

But in my view,

And I I think all of

The leadership agrees with me on this.

We also don't want to

Um

Congratulate ourselves too much on having this ideological outlook.

Because it gets onto the level of something antisocial.

When you see a march of 500 people on the street with red flags, we are dreaming and aspiring for a time that will come where that will be something meaningful in this country.

But I think that all it does right now is just intimidate people.

And it's definitely not something we have planned.

I mean, we're going to have hundreds of people at our inaugural event, but we're not going to put on a spectacle and run past the pacing of the masses themselves because we care about leveling with the level of consciousness that the masses are at now and what these kinds of things mean for them right now.

We're already calling ourselves communists.

We're already completely unapologetic about that.

And it's ironic because we're not Trotskyites, meaning we are unapologetically people who uphold the memory of Stalin and Mao and the entire experience of communism in the 20th century.

We don't say like the Trotskyites do that, oh, it was betrayed and it wasn't the real thing.

It's like, no, we're actually the real deal, communists.

But at the same time, we're not here to we're not here to like get excited and get high off our own supply by you know, I'm not against red flags.

It's just like do but do you need a hundred red flags?

That's kind of where I'm coming from with this.

It's more like

Yeah, I mean you're a communist, you don't you don't need to hide that, but you also don't need to pretend like we're on the cusp of a communist-led revolution because we're not.

And we have a lot of work to do as far as working closely with the masses to actually redefine in their eyes what communism means, which can only be done through practice, through deed and not just word, right?

So, we definitely will have our own presentation, our own aesthetics, which will be unapologetically communist.

But the goal is not to overwhelm people.

The goal is not to intimidate people.

The goal is not to frighten people or be shocking to people.

The goal is to be realistic about where we are right now in this country and have a reasonable and realistic appraisal as communists of what our relationship to that is.

And there is a very real reason why we are reconstituting the CPUSA.

Because what I just told you right now is exactly what the elders of the CPUSA, almost adverbatum, will tell young and enthusiastic rank and file.

And that is why the conflict we had with them was so intense, because there is a grain of wisdom in their position.

Not in the content of their position, but the reasoning they use.

There's a grain of Marxist-Leninist wisdom in that.

It's just that the way they applied that and the conclusions they drew from it were completely and catastrophically wrong.

For them, realism means just tailing behind the Democratic Party.

They are right.

In the okay, so the Marxist-Leninist position is correct in the sense that

The primary contradiction, let's just call it that.

I know that's not orthodox pre-Mao Marxism-Leninism, but whatever.

There is a broad national, democratic, and popular struggle.

And the goal of communists is to articulate the meaning of communism within the context of that struggle, not to create a struggle from scratch based on

Aspiring toward the supremacy of our ideals, which is something I think Trotskyites do.

I think Trotskyites, such as these ones, are trying to create a conflict based on an ideological position.

They're trying to create a conflict that's based on communist versus non-communists just from scratch.

Well, no, I mean, the meaning of communism has to be given context by an already existing real movement of history.

So the CPUSA leadership superficially understood that, but they wrongly translated that to mean that the national democratic and popular struggle was bound up with the Democratic Party and Kamala Harris and Joe Biden and whatever.

And that was just such a huge mistake they made.

And I actually talk about this in my writing, my substack.

It's called The Brahmins of Democracy, where I talk about the source of the mistake.

The mistake is that they confuse the institutional form of the masses and the people with the people themselves.

And that if they really applied Marxism-Leninism in the American context, they would have.

It would have led them to something that's kind of like what we coined as MAGA communism, which is not to say we use swap out the Democrats for the Republicans, but is rather to say that the broad national democratic and popular movement is taking its kind of embryonic

First stages in this very ambiguous MAGA thing that's been going on up until now or whatever, right?

It's obviously national.

It's rooted in a movement of national sovereignty.

It's obviously democratic.

It's challenging institutional gatekeepers that are attempting to prevent the popular sovereignty of the masses from having any kind of recognition.

And then it's popular.

It represents, again, a new form of popular sovereignty in the digital age.

It's just not clearly defined.

It's just ambiguous.

It's not on the ideological front, of course, it's deeply problematic.

But this is the context we're in.

Now, it's very important you understand what this means.

It's just defining the context.

It's not to say the context is an ideological struggle, just the opposite.

The context is deindustrialization.

The context is this problem of popular sovereignty.

We don't have a democracy anymore.

The government has been hijacked, yes, by a deep state, bound up with corporate and financial interests, right?

We have a problem of.

uh a a conflict between the relations of production and the forces of production in the form of automation and new technologies.

We have a problem of, you know, a a a loss of any kind of um

any kind of uh well, I already said popular sovereignty, but

A problem of the stagnation of the productive forces themselves, uh willful stagnation.

We have a problem of monopoly capital, gatekeeping opportunity f uh from the masses.

So these all of these things define the context of the problem.

And there's um there's many other things as well.

Don't get me wrong.

I mean, rent.

Right, healthcare, debt, it's the most important thing, debt.

But MAGA succeeded in broadly kind of articulating all of those problems, whether they acknowledged them openly or not, within the context of a renewed struggle for popular sovereignty, which is of course national sovereignty.

It's the same thing.

In Marxism-Leninism, the national and the democratic struggle were inexorably bound up, as pretty much the same thing.

The origin of the nation state itself is where?

The French Revolution.

I don't know if I have time to touch upon that today, but there's a lot of spicy nonsense.

I don't want to call it spicy.

There's a lot of stupid nonsense going around on Twitter.

This was a few days ago because of the ridiculous opening ceremony of the Paris Olympics.

But there's a new kind of defamation and condemnation of the French Revolution happening, and we have to stand against that completely.

But um in any case

The leader of Hamas was martyred, Volk, is that what I'm hearing?

Oh.

Oh wow That is not good news

He was residing in Qatar, was he not?

Or was he in Iran?

He was in Tehran.

Unbelievable.

Okay, well we're gonna

We're going to definitely talk about that.

Rest in peace.

Yeah.

May God bless his soul.

Um

We will I I need to read about what happened.

We're definitely going to talk about that.

Uh yeah, don't worry about if we'll make a statement.

We have to consult with each other.

Probably yes, though.

It's I mean it's I'm just hearing about it just now.

I'm just hearing about it now.

Um, he was killed in his Tehran home.

Got it.

Yeah, between this and the bombing in Beirut, which I guess we're gonna combine these news events as far as our coverage.

I don't know, guys, you tell me.

It's looking like it's looking like um this may may be uh

tipping point kind of scenario.

Definitely we can expect a very strong response to this, if nothing else.

But yeah, put the facts in uh fact checking while I continue.

Talking about the French Revolution.

Anyway, um, back to the Trotskyite thing.

That's what we wanted to continue talking about.

Look, uh

Marxism-Leninism is about realism, it's not about ideological enthusiasm and excitement.

And you know, a lot of people are confused because they see the footage of the RCA people and they're like, What the hell is going on?

I mean, is this you guys?

A lot of people are like, What is the difference between you guys?

And it's almost embarrassing having to explain that.

So, if anyone asks you what the difference between us and them, just say the truth, okay, and don't be ideological, just say the truth.

Just be like, They are followers of they're what you call Trotskyites.

They rejected the communist.

the the real communist countries, we're more communist like China is.

Like we're Marxist-Leninists.

That's really all you have to say, 'cause it's just the truth.

Like we're more like China style communists, they're just some kind of cult uh from a long time ago.

That's really all you have to say.

It's the truth, right?

It's the truth.

Um.

Now, uh what else did I want to say?

Um

Yeah, like I said, it's not that we're allergic to red flags.

Definitely not.

But how you present yourself to the public should be measured in proportion to realistically the scenario we're in right now.

It should be measured.

Like, it should be.

It shouldn't, you shouldn't be afraid, you should be bold, and you should be confident.

But here's what I mean by this: I imagine for our inaugural event in September, how we present ourselves is just going to authentically reflect where we're at right now.

We are right now aspiring to build a strong communist movement in this country and a strong communist party.

So, in our inaugural, it's all about our status at our

Our aspirational kind of sentiment.

It's like we are dreaming of this, we're ready to start working, we're ready to get to work, and you know, we're ready to begin.

Not like, okay, everything is already here, you know, like this huge movement is has come to because that's kind of what they've dishonestly done.

They flew out everyone from God knows where all across America, 500 people, and for some odd reason, they did a show of force and a march in Philadelphia to make it seem like there's already this huge communist movement here.

I just don't find that very honest.

It's not really.

I mean, look, but here's the thing.

I don't even know why I am talking about this with the depth that I am, because they're Trotskyites.

They're not communists in the way we are.

Like,

Like, it's the same name that they use, I guess, but it's like it could not be more different.

It's a completely different historical tradition that has nothing.

We are so many degrees of separation removed from people like that.

It it would be like comparing I don't know, I mean it's like comparing

Mm.

It's like comparing uh uh some kind of strange Babylonian cult to Christianity.

I mean, sure, somewhere yeah, there's some kind of like shared lineage, maybe, but it's just like not at all

anything to do with where we're coming from.

And I and I kind of want to take like five minutes to talk about why that is.

Because it's one thing to just be like, all right, they're Trotsky, it's moving on, who cares?

But I I guess uh to be principled, I want to just simplify what makes Marxism, Leninism different from the Trotskyite outlook and world view in a very simple way that I would you know, I think would be pertinent right now.

So it all has to do with what does it mean what does being a revolutionary mean to us?

What does revolution mean to us?

Why don't we kind of talk about that enough?

And then the measured thing you could say is well, we're not in a revolutionary situation.

But does that matter?

I mean, are you revolutionaries or are you reformists?

Eventually, there's going to have to be a revolution.

And then, you know, but for us, revolution doesn't mean the same thing.

For us, a revolution.

Is not something

That happens because we want it to happen, and we're trying to make it happen because of some like preconceived.

Aspiration to want to overthrow the government or want to overthrow society in general.

That's not the Marxist-Leninist approach.

That's not the Leninist approach.

For a Leninist or a Marxist Leninist

And for Lenin himself, and for every revolutionary in history, I would argue, to be a revolutionary is just some to be someone who has the courage.

to honestly give expression and articulation to the situation you're living in and the world you're living in.

It's not about volunteering to want to overthrow and topple the government from scratch.

Step one is just having a honest and authentic relationship with the world you're living in.

Name the thing that everyone is scared to name.

Name the injustice that is affecting everyone, but which everyone is afraid or lacks the courage or lacks the clarity to give clear expression to.

It's really about

Insisting upon the integrity of the meaningfulness of history.

and humanity and the society you live in and its history in the present.

Just insist on that integrity.

Insist upon the fact that as a society we all know that we hold ourselves to a standard worthy of our own human sense of dignity.

and of our own historical traditions that are before us.

I mean, all it takes to be a revolutionary in America is not be a crazy guy who's just shouting about how you want to overthrow the government.

It just takes someone who asks a simple question.

Are we living up to the history of this country?

Is this what this country was founded upon?

I'm not even talking about ideals.

Like in 1776, it was a popular revolution where the people had the courage to stand up to the injustice of the British occupation.

the uh the oppression against them by the British.

And they wouldn't tolerate it.

They insisted upon having a shared sense of popular sovereignty where their basic human dignity they insisted that that would be respected.

Are we living up to the spirit of that history right now?

That's what it means for us to be a revolutionary.

It doesn't mean

Voluntaristically, you know, running around naked saying you want to destroy whatever this does.

No, that that's infantilism.

Being a revolutionary is just about having the courage to tell the truth about the society you live in.

And everything that proceeds from that is history.

Everything that follows from that

Um that happens naturally.

Once you get the first part down, the rest follows very, very easily.

Okay, the October Revolution in Russia.

All you had to do was have the simple courage to acknowledge the fact, the following fact.

The provisional government doesn't have the mandate of the people, so there's this vacuum.

It doesn't have the popular sovereignty.

It's a sham government.

It's a dictatorship.

It was literally a dictatorship and it's illegitimate in the eyes of the people.

And no one is seizing on the opportunity because everyone is so confused and nobody understands the situation we're in right now.

But Lenin understood it.

And so in Lenin's April thesis

He's not a voluntaristic, you know.

Pervert who's just saying, Yeah, anarchy in the UK or whatever.

Like, no, what he's doing is very realistically appraising the situation that he's in and having the courage, having the courage.

To be responsible for it, having the courage to be responsible for his historical situation as it is, not as you're clouding it with ideological phrases, not according to your emotions, not no, but for what it actually is, right?

So the Trotskyite view is very different.

The Trotskyite view is about, you know, drawing a conclusion.

About capitalism or about the world, and on the basis of the conclusion you draw, giving yourself the mandate of heaven to basically like declare a revolutionary situation where you're just going to topple the government right now.

And then, once you do that, it's going to start a permanent revolution where the revolution is never going to end until the entire world is somehow simultaneously conforming to your own preconceived ideological and political vision and project.

So, Trotsky, it's based on arrogance.

It's not based on realism.

It's based on arrogance.

It's an arrogant idealism.

Marxism-Leninism is a humble materialism.

It's a humble realism.

That's not to say we don't have the courage to muster our own sense of authority.

We carry that red banner and we carry it to the highest hill and we defend it.

We disdain to conceal our views.

But we allow communism to be defined by what it actually is, as the real movement of history, not what we think it should be based on preconceived conclusions we've already drawn in our heads.

It's a faithfulness to history in the course and process of its development that separates us from them.

Um, it's having the courage to not have to rely on the ruling ideology, not having the arrogance of just imposing your own ideology on the world.

We're not the ideological ones, we're the realists.

I mean, and we're going to talk about in a second an example of this, actually.

But, you know, Marxist-Leninists are not the ideological, you know, fanatics.

We're just the realists.

Our fanaticism isn't based on ideology.

Our fanaticism is based on a sense.

Of

worldly justice here and now based on the situation we're in now.

It's not based on an ideology.

It's based on a specific type of responsibility and responsivity to the present conditions we live in.

We are fanatical about our faith in the people and the cause of the people as they actually are here and now.

That's what we're fanatical about.

We are fanatical champions and fighters for the working class as it actually exists.

Not the ideal one in our head, but the one that actually exists.

We're fanatical about justice for East Palestine, Ohio.

We're fanatical about justice for protesters getting their skulls cracked.

rallying and trying to fight for Palestine.

We're fanatical about defending the rights of the people, including J Sixers who were locked up for twenty years or whatever.

We're fanat uh uh the whole people, the whole working class.

You know, we're fanatical about the railroad workers justly fighting for their rights, striking.

You know, we're fanatical about these things.

That's what makes us zealots and fanatics.

Not an idea that was conceived in someone's head.

But the real existing situation here and now, that's what we're fanatics about.

And I'll give you an example of how we're not the ideological ones.

Venezuela

Now, Carlos was in Venezuela.

Jackson is still in Venezuela.

He.

He they attempted to the them by means the CIA NAFO opposition.

Um they doxed him on Twitter.

Nothing got reported, nothing got taken down, and they started advocating violence against Jackson.

Uh thankfully he's safe right now and he's gonna be good.

He's gonna be safe, I think.

I'm confident in that.

But the Hitlerites, the CIA, they're all coming after him, trying to kill him in Venezuela.

And why is that?

Because he's reporting the truth firsthand.

Now, Jackson never went to Venezuela ever.

And I talk to Jackson all the time, and he tells me the truth, right?

He tells me the truth in private, like the truth about things going on in places around the world and stuff.

Even when it's not the right time to report this publicly, we still know the, you know, we still know everything that's going on.

But colour me shocked how much Venezuela has lied about by the media.

'Cause Jackson not only is reporting this publicly, but he's confirmed it with me privately.

If you you would not believe how much they've lied about Venezuela.

They said everyone's starving there.

You go to a grocery store and everything's filled up.

You go to Caracas, sure, there's some slums here and there, but it's not what the media told us it was.

You know, people aren't eating cats and dogs or whatever.

And plus, I didn't even know this, they have total food sovereignty right now.

So they've secured their food supply.

We haven't done that.

We don't have food sovereignty.

They had an inflation crisis many, many years ago which the media blew out our it kept strongly emphasizing, oh, this is socialism, this is Venezuela, but they didn't report on us how the government responded to that crisis.

Inflation went from thirty six thousand percent to ninety percent.

They got total food sovereignty.

They got it under control.

You think if we have that crisis sorry, not if when we have that crisis you think our government's going to get it under control like that?

when the dollar faces its coming due, which it

make no mistake of it, it will.

You think we're going to have the ability to do that?

No, because we're not led by a socialist government that gives a shit about the common welfare of the people.

We are led by a government that exists to serve as a tool to plunder and loot and exploit the American people.

So they have totally lied about Venezuela.

And we are not, we don't have to be ideological to report that to you.

We're just telling you the truth.

We're the realists.

All these people talking shit about.

Venezuela.

You know, they are ideologically brainwashed.

They've been told by the media that Venezuela is a shithole and it's a horrible dictatorship and everyone's starving, but that's an ideological form of brainwash you've been subjected to.

Please open your eyes, take off the blind, take off the spy kids 3D glasses or whatever.

Welcome to the real world.

Venezuela has its problems, but it is nowhere near what Elon Musk and the mainstream media is trying to tell you that it is.

Okay?

Welcome to the real world.

Um

You know, and Elon Musk is uh he's obviously spreading fake news, and I can't tell what it is.

It's like Elon Musk, he's always been with the Department of Defense.

That never changed.

So, is he just this is nothing new, or is he

Is he having, you know, does he have to make compromises?

That's not to defend him.

I'm just trying to understand, again, realistically, what's going on.

It seems like Elon Musk is basically winking.

It's either he's just always been doing their bidding, which probably is the more realistic conclusion, let's be honest.

Or he's like giving winks, wink, wink, winks to the deep state.

He's like, guys, I'm on your side.

Lay off of me.

You know, bring the investor, bring the advertisers back to Twitter.

You know, don't come after me, please.

Wink, wink.

I'm totally on your side when it comes to Venezuela.

So he's basically like throwing his principles under the bus.

I'm saying maybe, right?

That's like a 20% possibility.

80% realistically, Elon Musk is just a Pentagon agent and there's nothing more to it.

Um and you know I I think

Let me tell you something.

I mean, like, do you think it's a coincidence that Hitlerism is on the rise on X?

I mean, is that really just because it's what everyone truly thinks?

Doesn't that kind of play into the hands of US imperialism very easily?

I mean, sure, they're gonna yip-yap about Jews.

Now they're calling Maduro a Jew, by the way.

They're now calling Maduro a Jew.

It's the perfect thing to psyop dissident voices into supporting US imperialism.

You know, oh, yeah, let's invade Haiti because we don't like black people.

Maduro is a Jew, so let's support the Zionist opposition in Venezuela.

You know, oh, Iran is brown, so let's bomb Iran.

You know, like this new Hitlerite ideology, I feel like, was created in the Pentagon.

What do you guys think about that?

The new Hitlerite, yeah, now Fuentes is supporting regime change.

Really?

Doesn't surprise me.

That guy is now supporting Kamala Harris.

Funny enough.

So the h the Hitlerism thing was created in the Pentagon probably.

Because all it's doing is raising consensus.

Guys, what did Hitler hate the most?

He hated the Soviet Union.

What country today is the legacy of the Soviet Union?

Russia is.

Who's in the crosshairs of the Pentagon right now?

Russia is.

China is.

So the number one historical anti-communist, Hitler, that's who they're rehabilitating.

And you're going to tell me that that was just cooked up and delivered on a silver platter to the Pentagon without them even requesting it?

Maybe.

Mm-truth is stranger than fiction, so maybe.

But let's let's let's be open to the possibility that really this is just some pentagon shit.

Like, they cooked up this Hitlerism because it builds consensus for imperialism in a way that presents itself as dissident and anti-establishment, but in reality is anything but that.

I, you know, why I'm saying Pentagon and not CIA?

It's like Pentagon has always had Nazi sympathies.

CIA is like giga Nazi.

Like they are, um, they have transcended Nazism into the twelfth dimension.

They go directly to the source, to Madame Blavatsky and all the occultism and shit that informs the Nazis.

But it's the Pentagon that appreciates the fascist political system, I think, and the military, the militarism, and so on.

It's like the CIA is esoteric Hitlerism and the Pentagon is like uh pragmatic, you know, German war machine Hitlerism.

That's the difference between them in essence.

You know who would love that is Logo.

Logo would love that, I think, some summation.

The CIA is esoteric Hitlerism and the Pentagon is like um the DOD is like uh you know uh political, pragmatic, military industrial Hitlerism.

That's the main source of tension between these two wings.

Kamala Harris is esoteric Hitlerism and the Republican Party is the uh just just open it's like the S S versus the um you know

Well, I don't know what faction in the Nazi party, but maybe the German military, I don't know.

But that's kind of a way to sum summarize it.

And

Yeah, I don't know if I'd say the Wehrmacht because

The SA, yeah, I don't know.

No, not Prussian.

The DOD is like.

Hitler's like military agenda, his whatever, the fascist political and economic system.

But the CIA is like on some esoteric Hitlerism shit, right?

That's really the difference.

Yeah, like the Krupp no, that's actually a good one.

The Krupp military industrialist.

That's actually a good good way of putting it.

Uh f yeah.

Anyway, um

Anyway, uh

So this is the new wave of Psyops being unleashed about Venezuela.

So I've been told by my comrades in Venezuela, and yes, they're comrades now, it's not LARP, Long Guy, 1990, what a great name.

But I've been told by them that is Logo actually in the show queue.

He is!

I'd love to bring him on.

Logo, what's up, man?

Hello?

Yo, what's up, dude?

Oh, I'm so glad it's not an imposter.

Yeah, no, dude, it's me.

That's me.

I've had this Abby here.

I've only got Discord to do this from time to time.

It's really funny.

It was really coincidental.

I literally just mentioned you, like, a minute ago.

I was just, I was, well, I was just kind of like, like, because last time I talked to you was like the Kamala.

Well, I'm confusing Kamala and Kendrick already.

The Kendrick Drake stuff.

And I just, I just was thinking about how a lot of my predictions from that time period of like these phenomena being very similar have just like been totally objectively realized in like the last couple of days or something.

So I was writing about that today and then I was wondering like, oh, I wonder what Haas is talking about.

And I started listening when you were talking about like CIA esotericism, etc.

So, and then you were like, Logo would like this.

So here I am.

Yeah, yeah.

No, it reminded me.

Yeah, because I do you agree with that?

Like the CIA is like esoteric Hitlerism.

I was describing it as like Satanism and Luciferianism, but like I think they're describing the same sort of thing.

Like the distinction between those two things.

Yeah, no, yeah, it is.

Satanism is very this worldly.

Like Satanism is very much like in the moment.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's very much like in the moment where it's like, there's just this.

It's YOLO.

Like literally like Drake's like YOLO.

Like you only watch.

Hitler, you know, launching Operation Barbarossa or whatever.

Yeah, YOLO.

Like fucking YOLO E-Ball.

Yeah.

Whereas like the, and then even if you look at the Hitler regime itself, like the higher ups, like the intelligence wing, were more like the Luciferian or like the esoterics.

And they're not concerned with this world at all.

They're concerned with like establishing a type of utopia.

Yep.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, that's exactly how I see it.

And, you know, you've been on the nose documenting it, but it's like.

The I listen, I didn't even want to say anything because I'm like, oh, yeah, everything's going according to plan.

Like, to me, it would be kind of embarrassing if we didn't turn out to be right.

That was, that would be like something that would force me to say something.

I don't really, I don't really worry about that at all anymore.

No, I mean, yeah, like, I remember raise money when you are, and then, like, no one cares, and like, no one recognizes it.

It's just very, yeah, nobody's going to give us a certain amount of people.

I'm going to gaslight you about it.

Nobody's going to give us any credit.

I don't know how to cash in on this shit, honestly, but nobody's going to give us credit.

It's actually kind of beautiful.

God protects us through.

We tell the truth, and therefore, we're not, we don't have to dirty ourselves with women's interests.

Yeah, that's a that's one way of putting it.

But we was like, listen, we actually, it's actually been extremely providential.

I mean, Jackson's down in Venezuela right now.

Like, shit's actually truly popping off.

I'm happy for y'all starting the organ stuff.

I mean, I'm obviously not going to be that involved because I'm busy, but yeah, no, I figured that's you know, that's that's really because I was thinking about that and I was like, you know, you're you're way too busy, but you know, I did, I was meaning to tell you, it's obviously always open.

I mean, whenever, yeah, no, if there's like a chapter in uh the bay, I might uh turn up now and again when I have the time, but I can't, I'm not, I'm just like not gonna be leading shit, you know what I'm saying?

I'm not fucking organizing shit.

That's no, no, but you see, I don't have total control, JB, what's up, man?

I don't have total control, but in my view, I would want you to be like somehow officially recognized in some way.

I don't know what maybe we're getting ahead of ourselves, like LARP.

I will be the Mayakovsky, it'll be fun.

Like, give me a, like, let every, like, let me blow like a certain amount of money, like, give me some money to play with or do some like to like stage a play or something.

Well, look, when our corporation gets up and running and we just have a bunch of money, I am literally gonna die on that hill.

I don't care what it takes.

Give Logo all the money he needs.

I, I, listen, nobody believes me when I say it, but you, I literally, I was so shocked.

I was like, it's actually scary.

Like, you're actually like a fucking wizard.

One time, Logo, this is the only time I seen him do this.

He commissioned a meme in public.

He's like, someone should just make this meme.

Like, because even you didn't even care to make it.

Yeah, it was beneath me.

It was the barrier.

I don't even want those.

It's too easy.

I literally make a coffee meme, and then a day later, it goes viral with like 45,000 likes, like millions of views.

Yeah, I don't want that.

I don't want that kind of heat on me, you know?

No, I mean, I'm saying, like, you do have a, I feel like if money was thrown at you, you would return results from just from a corporate really.

I would just want to have time to like write the books I want to write.

Like, I think about them all the time.

Because I think it's really like, that's like really what a novelist is trying to get in touch with.

Is like you're doing an anatomy, like the novel is an anatomy of a society.

So it's like, if you're truly like trying to write a novel, you have to develop basically the same skills.

It's why a lot of poets and things are like, it worked in the like the glory days of the American intelligence service.

It was like, you know, these guys, like, like, you know, James Jesus Angleton, say what you will of him, but he had good taste in poetry, you know?

Oh, yeah.

These were all like, like, this was back when like the Ivy League literary magazines were actually really good.

I mean, I know what they're like now from the inside.

I was just thinking about this shit because I was thinking about like how retarded a lot of the parapolitics people are.

And I was thinking to myself, I was like, how come they never do background checks on like George R.R.

Martin?

Because I feel like that guy has to be involved with some elite.

Really?

I mean, he's a mediocre author, but it's like people like that, like the way that they.

The way that they become so popular and like they tap into something It's literally just HBO dude like it's like it's we already know that like no one would be give a fuck about those books I remember reading those books when no one gave a fuck about them a long time ago when I was into like fantasy shit like that when I was like a teenager Stephen King or something.

Stephen King, I don't know, maybe.

I feel like he's kind of a m he's kind of like a midwit, you know, like that's part of like there's a lot of useful idiots also.

Like never underestimate the amount of useful idiots there are.

That's true.

Yeah, that's true.

But no, I was saying like just but just in general, like in the literary community, that's definitely a place to look for well, it's like you look at like, you know, the most obvious case, like American literature has just kind of been poorly maintained like quite like, you know, purposefully.

I could go off about like the Iowa Writers Workshop and the sort of like house style that is trained and honed as being like explicitly anti-communist, like explicitly avoiding a type of anatomy of society in favor of this like sentimental subjectivist nonsense, you know, this like these ethno-narcissist autobiographies about their them becoming self-actualized as the in the book that they're writing, which is, you know, about them actually just making money and getting patronage in the system.

You know what I mean?

Like, it's disgusting.

But, you know, it wasn't always like that.

We used to like, there's a reason why we won like the early 20th century and stuff like that.

Like American poetry, like even on that level, was just like completely far beyond everyone else.

Yeah, no, I mean I have limited exposure, but I think that's indicative of like a whole society.

I was talking about like because they're bringing it.

Oh, it's Tuck Marvel, dude.

Have you heard the recent, like, what they're doing with the whole Marvel cinematic universe now?

All I saw was the viral tweets about Robert Downey Jr.

coming up.

Oh, dude, it's so much better than that because it's so beautiful.

Like, they had to finally reconcile the impossibility of the multiverse by inventing this new thing called like an anchor per an anchor person or like an anchor point to the to so every universe has like a specific like kind of like world historical like it's like the messianic thing it's like the christ figure of each little universe like in the multiverse and your multi your universe can die if that what depending on what happens to that person and basically that person is robert downey jr because the literally the marvel cinematic universe project was dying um so they literally can they can they canonize the fact that they relied on this really popular actor like in this fiction itself no but what it's going to be is that he is going to be the thanos of the next arc right which will end conclusively the whole thing in like the early 2030s or something they finally determined that there has to be an end to the to the universe but it has to be given meaning for the stabbish existence of robert downey jr i hate this retarded multiverse and it's like i you know what nobody believes me when i say this i have never watched a single avengers film do you believe me when i say that i've never i believe you dude it honestly it you don't have like you know zijak said one thing when he was talking about how he talks about movies that he hasn't seen all the time or whatever that's such facts that's such facts he's right about certain movies like there are a lot of there are like when we're talking about something like this you can read actually a plot synop the most of the movie is a plot synopsis like a movie where the whole thing is just like relaying plot to you you know and it's not like like you know it's not like a shot meandering on like the wind blowing through the grass in this like beautiful absolute particular moment or something is the no it's all about a film i watched the old ones like the old iron man one and i think i watched two and then i watched well is there any is there any i should actually watch it's i mean it's it's like for what reason like should to do so you can like have a fun time watching it it's like well you can have a fun time watching anything if you bring are any of them actually good or i really don't know um what does good mean here you know like i i don't know like i don't think they're good but like i wouldn't i wouldn't say they're great films or anything like that like that there's like no no actually venom i watched that and i kind of like yeah i haven't seen that like i don't know i like the only one i've only uh i watch them to like my form of watching them at this point is like to tap into like to like the the the masses like what is what what people are getting hit with like you know like why the same um so right-wingers can clip it it's like we are the jews and they're the goyim and they're like cattle we have to we have to keep our pulse because we're the ones in charge we're the protocols of zion anyway i just think that it's like like like i don't know like the like if you see like ukraine azov stuff coming out around the same time as like for the for like thor love and fun i don't even know the name titles of these things but like i didn't see that one but i've heard that it's like a very like there's like a whole like as guardian foolian aspect to the marvel cinematic universe yeah i've actually i've seen some like white guys for kamala now and you can organize white groups yeah that's what i wanted to bring up so so if you guys aren't if you don't know logo and i like years ago were saying that like the azov battalion in ukraine and the way that has united like the ukrainian libtards and the azov far right neo-nazis it's like that's really like richard spencer was already ahead of the curb on it when he endorsed biden but now with kamala harris

We have approached the point where, like, the Democrats are kind of going full, or I should rather say the Hitlerites are going full Democrat, and then the reverse is kind of starting to be true as well, obviously, as you talked about or you alluded to the fucking white dudes for Harris, which all the white nationalists have praised because they're like, finally, white politics.

Very interesting.

They're like, this is all we wanted.

All we wanted was to be part of the identity politics stuff.

Like, you know, like, and they can, and they can, no one cares about anti-Semitism anymore.

At least, like, under a specific age cohort, you know, like, yeah, nobody's not talking about boomers, but yeah.

And then Kamala Harris is, Nick Fuentes is kind of leaning toward Kamala, if not outright, supporting Kamala.

The far right is the far right is going for Kamala because they're saying that Trump is too pro-black and he's too non-racist.

No, no, isn't that so funny?

Isn't it hilarious?

Yeah, yeah.

You know, I wanted to say, I was going to talk about this and touch on it, but I'm kind of blind walking through it.

What's this whole stuff?

Or do you have thoughts formed yet?

The whole thing going on of like the weird, like Democrats saying, oh, it's just a way to say that they're like perverts.

You couldn't use that word.

It would be too strong.

But it's meant to insinuate that.

No, it definitely is.

Foster, what's going on?

But it's like the Democrats are kind of presenting themselves as like the new normal, and MAGA are kind of like the ones that are like too much impassioned and like strange and like weird because.

Basically, they are weird, let's just be honest.

I mean, I literally talk about it in my sub stack, the manga communism thing.

I'm like, they represent bizarro America, right?

Yeah.

And like a bizarro version.

And so, like, they're always struggling to kind of like

It's almost like that thing of like the conservatives are the new counterculture, but it's like actually kind of true in a way.

I mean, like, not a counter call for like six.

It's more like a.

An attempt to constantly defy just an attempt to def see this is why.

I mean, I feel like there's I feel like there's something about the criticism of the right that I would like to appropriate from the Democrats.

Because I do feel like as people are, you know, the MAGA people, all these people, they realize all the media is lying to us.

Corporations are lying to us.

Like, we're being lied to.

Everything we know is a lie.

But then it leads them down the anarchistic path of basically having to kind of like become perverts who challenge the norms of society in general, which I think is a wrong path to make.

And to me, the preferable thing is if.

We could actually be the ones who are the new normal, and in a some sense at least, while maintaining that same kind of like cruelty.

This is what I think it actually is.

So you have like MA types, they're like the party of sinners, you know, they identify as such.

Yeah, but that's why they say all that shit's bad, right?

Like, you, you want to, like, you know, you have like drug addicts who are like, you know, born-again Christians who are like, drugs are bad, or whatever.

But on the other side, you have like the new normal, like someone like Kamala, where it's like the most, like, you know, she'll, she's, she's not that crazy, you know, she hasn't done any, probably hasn't done anything as a, I don't know, as ludicrous, as strange as like the average MAGA person or something in their life.

But we'll like totally like look the other way in terms of like promoting sort of like worse activity.

Like, you know what I mean?

More.

Like there's like a that's like the real gap.

And so it works because actually most of the, like, most of the people who are going that way anyway to vote for Kamala, they are, you know, they, they, uh, they actually are kind of just like normies, you know.

No, yeah, that's such facts.

That's actually true.

You have to be kind of like fucked up to go, like, in one way or the other, you could, or like, you know, it depends on how you grow up, I guess.

You have to be disturbed.

Or you have to be willing to be like ostracized.

Like, I always had respect, actually.

I was never like a right-wing kid, like, when I was in high school or whatever.

I was more of like a leftist.

Yeah.

You know?

But I would also disagree with the liberals, but there would be like these conservative people who would like to.

And I realized over time that those people actually, they had principles.

Like, I didn't agree with some of their principles.

I still try.

And a lot of them, what's funny is as they got older, they became Democrats.

No, what you said is actually, it's not only that that they had principles.

It's also like.

When when you're like in primary school, even though I was left-wing, I couldn't get along with leftists because they were like a bunch of like teachers' pets and tattletales and shit.

Whereas the right people who were like just spontaneously had right-wing views tended to like just be funny and like be willing to like I don't know, like break rules, I guess.

I don't know.

Like, do you ever get it?

I was just thinking, I was thinking of just this particular person I grew up with who was like that in one of these like history, like it was like an AP fucking history class of some sort.

And she was like very much like a conservative in like the Obama era.

And I was like, I didn't like Obama either, but that was because I was like, you know, a left-handed guy.

Yeah.

But then like, I remember like we had an argument about unions or something.

And then like years later, I saw her again and she was like, oh, I totally agree with you now about unions.

Her husband's a cop, so she loves the police union.

That's so funny.

No, no, yeah, there are different variants, definitely.

That's more kind of like the TPUSA type of young conservative.

Oh, no, like they're Democrats in Massachusetts.

No, I know.

I mean, like a rich.

Yeah, no, that they become Democrats.

Yeah.

Yeah, they do.

Yeah, they become the never Trumpers.

Like, that's the thing where it's like, I felt, I always felt like even back in 2016 that people didn't really, like, even the people who were memeing about Donald Trump, they didn't actually understand him at all, like what kind of person he was.

As somebody who came from, as somebody who actually wanted to do, etc.

As somebody back then who was like unconditionally anti-Trump, even I understood it.

I've always been a hard Stalinist.

Anonymous, thank you.

Even I understood it, but I was like, I had too many convoluted theories in my head that was the reason for me being anti-Trump.

But like on the spontaneous level, like there was nothing...

Like I deeply understood why he was popular because I saw it.

I understood it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like I got, I'm, as someone from Michigan, like all the people that were supporting him, I totally understood it.

And I fucking hated Hillary, too.

So there's that.

Yeah.

It's not going to be like that this time around.

Yeah.

I thought that, you know, I was kind of like a crazy conspiracy theorist.

I thought like Trump was going to usher in like a new fascist.

Yeah, that's like the Donnie Darket, where it's like, actually, that's where I was coming from.

Yeah, yeah.

But I honestly think that's giving way too much props to Donald Trump.

Like, it's like, have you ever gone deep on the QAnon stuff?

I remember I know the QAnon deep lore.

Like, I went deep on it.

Like, I consulted the Q clock.

I don't know if you know what that is.

No, I don't even know what that is.

It's like time travel and that some of the messages are posted.

Oh, that shit.

I think I is that the thing where they're saying there was a time traveler in 2000 or some shit?

No, they're saying, like, so it's very funny because it's a way to keep the same posts that have been up there and like from a deactivated poster on an image board or whatever.

It's a way to make them relevant again, over and over and over again, because they're so vague that you can just say, actually, this is about right now.

And they just continue to do this.

So I've seen, like, yeah, but that's what I mean where it's like, like, they're like the only people, like, the people, you have to have some more convoluted sort of sense of like the power that Trump has or has ever had or could potentially have as president to think that, like, I've been super confused.

That's what's going on.

A lot of this, because, like, look, on the one hand,

Uh no no I mean you're right about all that, the Donny Darko stuff being BS but like right now twenty twenty four here's my thoughts and I I think you could offer clarity here 'cause I'm super conflicted about it.

So it's like Trump I mean I I feel like he's gotten all the big donors.

I feel like like he's even Mark Zuckerberg is coming around to him, Silicon Valley is like them even CNN doesn't seem like they're going that hard on him anymore or as much as they used to.

And then, you know,

On the other hand, like part of me still wants to think that like

people still have severely underestimated how much the Kamala hegemony, Democrat hegemony, is just so powerful and so firmly entrenched, like especially among normies or n or whatever, that like all of this Trump stuff in twenty twenty four is just like

You know, it may be for a lot of the masses, obviously, it may be coming from a good place, but it's just like the Jacobite rebellion or whatever.

It's doomed to fail due to its inability to actually understand, you know, the root causes of the discontent behind it.

It's inevitable.

Well, they never organize.

It's just like the lesson you can learn: if you're not organizing your own thing, then it's like, it's like basically, it's a vain thing.

It's a vain, misplaced, failed rebellion, or it's like the ultimate psyop ever.

Like, I'm conflicted between those two all the time.

I don't really know.

Well, you should never think that there's only one psyop going on in America because we don't like the real conspiracy that most conspiracy theorists don't want to deal with is that there's nothing that's actually a unified totality.

This is like just basic dialectics, I guess, right?

But like, there's always like, even like, that's how we did our form of central planning is like adversarial learning and things like this.

So, is there a psyop to get Trump elected?

Absolutely.

Is there a psyop to get Kamala Harris elected?

Absolutely.

Why?

Because it doesn't matter either one for the larger shit at play.

No, that's true.

So, like, do you think they even want Trump, or is it just totally I think a wing of it does, and a wing of it doesn't, you know, and that's how it all goes every single time.

And you just see, really, like, like, I always like, you know, Pepsi deep state theories.

Um, so, like, the head of the Secret Service used to work Pepsi Co., you know, Pepsi Co.

Security before getting into the state.

Interesting transition between those two things.

Um, but it's very famous that Coca-Cola and Pepsi have their like sort of partisan allegiances, like in the White House vending machines, depending on who's in the R.

I'll tell you, that goes further.

So it goes, it stretches out to all of the major consumer brands in America.

I haven't mapped all of them out, but like, here's a few that everyone knows.

So Coca-Cola is with Disney and McDonald's, and Pepsi is with Burger King and Universal.

Yep.

Right?

DreamWorks.

Yep, yep, yep.

And like, you can map it out, and it'll, it makes sense, actually.

Like, for some reason, it makes sense that Shrek is the Pepsi guy.

Yes, not the Coca-Cola guy.

Yeah.

And then you look at the demographics of like who drinks Pepsi and who drinks Coke.

Pepsi is like the more like rugged, you know, working class, whatever.

Coca-Cola is more refined and respectable, and it's like Disney.

And it's also the Christmas drink, which I don't know if that's relevant.

But Coca-Cola.

Well, the thing is that Pepsi actually, well, Pepsi actually is just way more popular among black people.

Also, every Christmas, the Christmas sodas, whatever fucking spray, whatever fucking remix they're putting out.

It also even goes further.

AMC is part of this McDonald's Coca-Cola coalition, too.

Oh, man, it goes on forever and ever.

Yeah, it goes through mind-boggling.

And the crazy thing is, like, it actually makes sense.

And I tend to associate that with, but would I be wrong too?

I tend to associate that with the Democrats, the Coca-Cola Coalition.

Oh, no, yeah, that's what it is.

Yeah.

Or the Coca-Cola Party.

That's what I thought.

And Pepsi is like the.

Well, it's like down south, right?

Like a Coke would be any soda because they didn't even have Pepsi, you know?

They didn't, none of that.

Uh, it's interesting.

Um, no, it actually is, um, and it's just like that's really more how it goes.

Like, like, I just have hunches about things because, like, if you see like these things together, it's not nothing in the meet, like, that's a product that's presented to you is like unintentional in some way.

You know what I mean?

Like, it's all even if it's like subjectively unintentional on the part of the person performing the action or whatever.

The fact that they're staged where they are is from like a set of rational forces that sort of impinge upon them, you know, impinge upon their actions.

But look, before I feel like an idiot because before Kamala, I feel like, are we, I don't know what's going on because before Kamala, I really strongly felt like, oh, yeah, Trump is the universally popular candidate in the U.S.

I think they really pulled a rope and dope.

I mean, we gotta say hats off to the Democrat SIOP team on this one because, like, they were like, oh, we leave Joe.

He's like a ringer, dude.

Like, he was just like, they, they, they rope a doped Trump basically on this one because they were like, oh, it's going to be so fucking easy.

Like, and they held that out there for so long.

And, like, the idea that they're going to inflame Democrats about the lack of democracy and the own the selection of Kamala Harris is so funny.

It's like, yeah, they don't care.

No one gives a fuck.

Kamala Harris has Charlie C.

What is her name?

XCX.

XCX.

And Megan.

And Nick Fuentes.

And Nick Fuentes.

Nick Fuentes is always trying to keep his pulse on the Zoomer culture because God help that guy when he turns 35, though, honestly.

I don't know how he's going to keep any of this scars.

I'm pretty on.

I know the type, but I would assume that his life will change very much when his mother dies.

Oh, no.

God forbid.

Whoever he wants to be.

I don't even want to go down that path.

That's saying, like, it's the cat.

It's a particular type of Catholic psychosis.

Yeah, I don't know.

He's clearly very campy.

I feel like he's self-aware of doing a bit or a character.

You know what I mean?

I'm not who he actually is.

It's a character.

He actually attacked us on the day of our launch of our party.

I'm sure.

Yeah.

Why wouldn't he?

Yeah, because his whole shit is like, do you want him there?

No.

Yeah, I mean, his whole shit is like bankrupt and it's it promises nothing and it's not as much as it tries to be cutting edge, it's just not.

It's really not.

It's lagging behind.

It's just that it's entertainment.

Yeah.

No, that's actually fact.

That's what it is.

It's entertainment.

Like that's that's like the distinction between like, you know, it's just there if you yeah, okay, it's entertainment.

Yeah, it doesn't really, not if it's real.

You're just doing a bit.

It's just jokes, you know?

Like it's not.

Yeah.

Like you can do comedy is like so can be so political or whatever, but he's really just like doing like a feel like you're not for a particular demographic, like who want like particular sorts of jokes.

Like that's like the same thing with like all the like white nationalist podcasts.

It's like, do you love Jew jokes?

Well, get ready.

Because I realize the only thing you need to do to neutralize the far right.

Is when you just like when you're just like, all right, look, racism's hilarious, but it's like, you're actually serious about this shit.

Like, once you start, I don't think they are.

No, I know, I know, but when you actually, when you actually corner them and you're like, you seriously, like, actually hate black people and then watch them waffle to like seriously make arguments about like why like racism is good, but they're not even doing a bit, they're like serious, they look retarded in front of everyone.

You know, the minute you force them to actually like seriously defend their position without like telling without like making it funny, it really comes off as super weak and ineffective.

What do you think?

Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's why they don't do that.

You know, that's why it's all just jokes.

Yeah.

That's what's so funny also.

And it's like, that's what the Democrats are going to run with.

Like, J.D.

Vance was a horrible pick for Trump on the strategic front.

It's like, he's horrible.

Yeah.

It's so fucked.

So dumb.

So such a dumb.

He could have picked literally a complete fucking nobody Republican.

It would have been like he did with Pence, who would have been more meaningful.

Because you know what?

Like, it can only bring him down more.

Do you think it's the Silicon Valley thing?

Oh, it's amazing.

Yeah, like Peel, like it's the like there's a there's a wing of uh the well, I mean, Silicon Valley, it's mostly the guys who want who are getting military contracts, look at like Elon Musk and Peter Thiel.

It's a it's people who want to like who think that they'll have more of a means to like get this sort of funding than the type of funding that like Republicans, you know, they want to build up like military hard power and like fucking you know do you believe in the TikTok theory of politics right now where it's like whatever candidate is easier to sell on TikTok will win?

Because I feel like Kamala is kind of becoming easier to sell on TikTok than Trump.

Like if you're scrolling through TikTok and you see like an edit, like even underestimate the amount of appeal there is to voting for someone like where your vote is actually also not your vote.

It's sort of like a joke or a bit.

That's what Kamala's trying to do.

She's trying to make a joke.

There were a lot of people who voted for Trump in 2016 as a sort of like YOLO fuck it.

We ball kind of thing.

Like fuck Hillary Clinton.

And it was like a funny idea to vote for Donald Trump.

Trump as a president.

It was like a completely ridiculous thing.

And it was like a fun thing to like participate in.

Yeah, it was.

And now I think this election is just going to be another like repeated like fuck Donald Trump and it'll just be dominated by all the people who hate Donald Trump and they'll probably be having more of a fun time so it seems to keep everyone else.

And yeah, I think that's because this whole country united around hating Hillary Clinton, really.

Not really around supporting Trump.

It was more like we all hated Hillary Clinton.

And I don't see the sex.

See, look, Kamala is so hate her like that.

You can't because she's so...

Here's why, though, because Kamala never even had a successful career in politics.

I know.

She's just a complete nobody.

She's a nobody.

You can't hate her because she's just like a silly woman talking about coconuts.

She's not a powerful...

She's not seen as someone who's powerful and successful.

There's a great Mick Lewin quote.

If you look up just the phrase superlative non-entity, you might find the quote.

But it's something about how that's the job of the president or the sort of pseudo-ceremonial leader of these democratic states is to be a superlative nobody.

And this was a, he was describing politicians back in his time, but it still applies in different respects, I think.

Like, who is a superlative nobody now?

It's sort of someone like Kamala.

Like, she's a superlative nobody.

Like, there's, it's not like Hillary Clinton had more of like a personality, like, where people could really hate her, you know, for her, like, particular affectations and things.

But Kamalas are just sort of like, like, like, people describe her as like a wine-drinking aunt or something.

It's like, okay, well, it's not that bad.

Like, you know, that's kind of a fun character.

She doesn't have the hate ability.

She doesn't have a strong like ability, but it's a very, you're right.

It's a superlative.

Superfluous non-dentity.

Superlative non-entity.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Whatever that is.

Um.

Yeah, I mean um

But yeah, you know, I don't know.

Did you when Biden won in twenty twenty, I felt like it opened up the gates of hell and it was so demonic and dark.

Well, that was like that's the other thing.

Like you had Dark Brandon.

Like they were trying to do the types of meming that they're doing now where it was this sort of like post-ironic, is it sincere or is everyone in on the joke sort of like appreciation of Kamala?

Like you'll probably be seeing like Comrade Kamala as they lean into like being like her her dad was a Marxist professor at Stanford.

And then that you know what I mean?

Like they'll be leaning into that.

Yeah, the so-called leftist re yeah, the leftists, whatever you want to call them, they're going to definitely make those memes as well.

They might even make a response to MAGA communism called Kamala communism or Kamalaism or something.

Like, you know, like honestly, sincerely, that might become a meme thing that somebody's going to do.

That's going to be all the rage among campus Democrats.

Yeah, it would be like a pole pot with a coconut tree.

No, they'll never go there.

See, we have hermetically sealed ourselves in the memeverse by appropriating Paul Pot, because no one else will ever will ever touch Paul Pot.

It's like a protection barrier spell we casted.

No one else will ever go near it.

There's no way to appropriate it.

It's been a funny time because I was like, I felt the same way.

So I was comparing, like, you know, we can go full circle here, Drake Kendrick, Kamala, Trump.

In the same way that I felt after the Trump assassination attempt, where I was like, holy shit, this will probably be a big deal.

And then it was like, oh, I guess no one's paying attention.

There's sort of like a everyone like sort of, it was exactly like Las Vegas, actually, where it was this huge fucking crazy thing that happened.

And then everyone just sort of like decided that it didn't matter or like we're not going to pay attention to it because it was like opening up too much of a can of worms or something.

I felt like that was exactly how the rap beef went, where it's sort of like Family Matters was like this, this like, almost, he almost got headshot, right?

And he's dodging it.

And it's like a track of him fighting past that.

And now pretty much it's going to be sort of more like the Trump response will be like to the song that he put out afterwards where even if he's like correct and like dismantling some things about Kamala or whatever, maybe Trump goes out there and he talks about her prison policies and things like that.

He makes himself the prison reform candidate or something to completely lose all of the white nationalists.

Yeah, they're so upset about it could be something like that, but no one will care anyway.

People will like whatever he does, it's the same sort of thing where the signs have been drawn.

There's more of social capital to be gained in one direction.

My appraisal is.

It's like, I don't I don't think the masses, the working class, whatever, like are all hyped up on any of this stuff.

I think they're very demoralized and like very miserable and you know, they really don't.

But there is a kind of vote at all.

So when we're talking about voters, we're talking about a certain pervert.

Exactly.

But I feel like there's a lot of people that are whipped up in a frenzy.

The Hitlerism stuff, the Nazi stuff, the edgy stuff, you know, yeah, NAFO, World War III, let's bomb Russia, whatever.

Like, I feel like that's like a black vortex of.

demonic temptation and edginess and whatever.

And I feel like Kamala's gonna win just because like people find that so potent and so like attractive.

You know, they find it so like appealing for some reason.

Like they want to enter into that spiral of like nihilism and madness so much.

And that's why I think there's a strong possibility she wins.

Because she's the joker.

She's the joker.

Yeah, exactly.

Yes.

Exactly.

Like she's energizing

This, like, really disturbing kind of like nihilism.

I mean, nobody fucked.

That's the scary thing.

Like, nobody, I compared her to, like, imagine you went to high school and there was a cult of personality, not around the principal, but around the assistant principal.

The principal doesn't deal with standards.

Such facts.

What the fuck?

The assistant principal is a disciplinarian, and she's brutal to the kids who are like in remedial classes and stuff.

But all the honors kids, they're sort of like this, like, cultish love for this assistant principal, even though she's kind of lame, like, really, there's like all this like ironic, like, overborne.

Oh, my God.

It's like a meme.

So, so, like, and then, like, some of the kids who are like, you know, not in that track or whatever, they get on it too in a sort of trollish way where they're like, I'm, I don't actually like the assistant principal, but I'm going to like, you know, pretend that I do because of what that enables me to get away with.

You know, where it's like, if you're like, if you're like known as part, you know, she's, she's a disciplinarian, but if you're, if she's, if you're known to her as like the sycophant, then you know, your life is a little bit easier.

That seems to me to be like the vibe.

Trump's like, I compared to like an alcohol, like a sort of like, like a weird gym teacher.

You know, that's, I think the weird thing is, you know what I mean?

But he's like, he says, he's in trouble for a lot of locker talk stuff, but you know, the boys on the football team are like, like, we ride or die with this guy.

Yeah, that's so true.

Oh my god.

You know, this is what I'm talking about.

See, I want to throw money at you just so you can make like a TV show.

That would actually, I'm not even kidding, be a great movie or TV show.

Like what you just said.

Or like Joe Biden, the principal, who's just like fucking literally like might be dead.

Like he might even not exist.

Yeah, that's so.

I've never, yeah, that is so true.

Like, maybe we need to come to terms with maybe Kamo's been the president the whole time.

No, I don't know.

That's just a meme, but it's pretty funny.

Yeah.

Because they're always saying the Obamas are pulling the strings.

You know what I mean?

That's something I find really funny.

It's like, why is Obama the mastermind?

Yeah, Obama's like an ascended master.

Like, he's.

Obama can walk in the astral plane.

If you remember, like, the Obama years, there was definitely a lot of crazy Tea Party, whatever.

Even Alex Jones.

But it was kind of half-based because it was like Obama was the Antichrist or whatever.

Because he was the one that was Syria, Libya.

He was like the NSA shit.

Oh, he brought in all the Wall Street guys, like David.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Michael Hudson goes off on Obama in the most satisfying way, more so than anyone else.

Yeah, but the origin of like him, but there is this kind of thing where like some of the George Bush voters, after Obama won, they were like, oh my God, this is the dark Messiah.

Like this is when America ends.

And it's weird because obviously George W.

Bush was like one of the fucking worst ever.

You have to think of the boomers, like the boomer world that they inhabited and how much that has completely just been erased and like destroyed.

I don't know.

I was pretty close.

I was close.

I'm close with my grandparents or like, you know, my grandpa died last year, but I was close with them.

And they were, they were like, they're very conservative, you know, like extremely so.

Like, which is true of like half of my family, whereas the other half were like extremely liberal or whatever.

But they were like working class people.

Like they were, you know, didn't really get up to much.

Like, I think the big most schooling any of them did is that my grandmother went to like a vet, like a veterinarian management school or whatever, because she managed to fucking animal hospital that she worked up from the bottom from or whatever.

But they were, their whole thing was that it was like, they were just intuiting that like the entire world that they had taken for granted was like being destroyed very rapidly by technology and by just like the complete change.

Like, I don't know, there's that, it's really difficult to describe like pre-2008 life now because it is a completely different world.

Like, and that's not because of Obama, that's because of the iPhone.

But facts.

And then also 2008 happened.

And that did the bank bailouts were fucking huge.

Like, a lot of people don't realize how kind of unprecedented.

Well, COVID was even worse.

Oh, yeah.

More recently with COVID.

Oh, yeah.

COVID was like.

No one even acknowledges that.

It's like crazy.

At least back then.

I don't even watch movies before COVID anymore because I'm like, I can't fucking relate to this.

I see a movie that's from 2019 and I'm like, oh.

No, you got to get ascended like me.

I only watch Ghibli movies with my daughter now.

That's the only thing I do.

Yeah.

Beautiful.

Oh man, music.

How how old is your daughter now?

Uh, she's like uh almost one and a half.

Oh, wow.

Time flies.

I really remember when you um announced

You're uh you were having a daughter and then she was born.

Yeah.

Wow, one and a half.

Yeah, she's pretty advanced.

She knows the whole alphabet already.

It's pretty wild.

Yeah, she's definitely going to be very smart.

It's gotta be.

Uh she's like really uh kinetically talented.

Like she like likes to like dribble a soccer ball all the time.

I think she'll be pretty athletic.

I think it's so cool you're a parent.

It's pretty tight, dude.

It's literally the best thing in the world.

Do you like curate the stuff she watches and stuff?

Pretty much.

I mean, you really have complete control over it when you're like, you know, when it's such a stunning board at this stage.

But yeah, I mean, I also just let her decide.

They let you know their opinions on things very early.

It's really amazing.

But she's really into classical music, probably more than me, even.

She always wants to watch the orchestra.

Oh, wow.

It's funny because I'll play some more modern music and she'll shake her head.

She's a little sophisticated.

She's like, this rock music is degenerate.

I want to listen to Molly.

That's actually hilarious.

No, I mean, I'm so glad to hear.

It sounds like a great experience.

It's great, dude.

I mean, it's, you know, I kind of like don't care as much about the politics.

Like, I don't know.

I do care.

I don't feel at it in the same way.

Yeah.

Like, I can't.

Yeah.

That's like the only thing.

That's like really like, that's really the most the force that like makes like makes or breaks.

Like, you know, we, the proletariat, like, they hate to recognize this, but the very origin of the word means people who breed.

Yep.

Like, literally, like, the fucking people who have kids who actually reproduce society, you know?

But it's like, no one in that position.

It's the revolutionary class because they make or break the situation.

No one with kids right now is going to fucking war against the United States government.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, yeah, I was kind of talking about this because, you know, some people were like curious on like what we should think about those Trotskyite, whatever art, the, you know, the viral stuff marching around with red flags.

And I was like, when we say that we're revolutionaries, like us MLs or Stalinists or whatever, it doesn't mean the same thing.

It's like we're not embarking on an adventure to go to war with the status.

It's just more of a kind of you're revolutionary because you're honestly and realistically just giving expression to the situation you're in now, you know?

And if you do that consistently enough, I mean, and build an entire mass movement on that basis, it's probably inevitable that things will come to blows, obviously.

Yeah, Michael Hudson always says, like, you can be non-violent, but they won't, which is the...

Yeah, exactly.

And it's like, I feel like that's what it is.

It's like you're not running around telling people, especially people with kids, to like sacrifice their lives and go like that.

Or it's like, that's the big problem with the right-wing stuff, too, is like you're telling all these guys who are young and they don't have kids.

They don't have them to throw their lives away.

You're like these older right-wing guys where it's like they have a fairly cozy life that whatever they're doing isn't that threatening to or whatever.

Or it is their job to do this.

And they're like, go do based epic shit in public and identify yourself with all these extremely anti-social things.

And that's because we're trad and we care about having kids and stuff.

So that's why we don't talk to women.

Because women are all whores.

It's fucking twisted.

It's so twisted.

They lead these people into horrible situations.

So I don't know.

That's my biggest problem with those guys, I think.

And that's not even political.

I just think it's like it's more like an ethical level.

They have low morals.

They have bad moral character on a personal level.

Yeah, it's really annoying when they try to monopolize the idea of the family or something.

This is like why the communist conception of the family is not fucking polygamy or something in the way that it's not polygamy at all if you read anything.

Really, it's like the right in that way, these like sort of degenerates who hide behind the pretense to like moral like, you know, absolute goodness or whatever.

Are the biggest perverts and everyone knows that.

Yeah, I know.

Yeah, and it's like transparent and it's sort of like part of the whole thing, the whole like the whole appeal.

Like people have been drawn into predatory people too.

It's like this is what it always was.

Instinct to like be to succumb to predation.

It was like what Engels was talking about is like.

Let's um you know let's oppose the

The economic institution of marriage that's rooted in private property so that we could finally just have true natural monogamy, like true, yeah, like genuine marriage relationships based on love between men and women.

So it's like, let's unburden ourselves from this superficial fake institution so that we could actually be naturally monogamous between men and women.

Like that was angle.

Or you look at this.

But the right-wing view.

What's most marital strife based in is money.

Yeah, yeah.

Exactly.

Like it's like, it's like, but the right-wing view is literally the opposite.

It's like, no, their form of liberation is like, okay, let's just go through the motions of superficial traditional marriage so that in private we could just be a bunch of degenerate perverts.

Exactly.

That's literally like perverse and therefore more enjoyable.

Yeah, that's and people don't realize like if for communists, it's the opposite.

Like for us, the freedom part is actually just the natural monogamous real marriage, right?

And the thing that we oppose is exactly the hypocrisy which enables all of the perversion and degeneracy of there's also the right-wing people where they like, you know, it's like divorce dad or whatever, talking about how the court systems fuck dads, etc., which is often very true.

Yeah.

But it's like they're also arguing for a certain type of legal abolition of the family, but from the quote-unquote like conservative end of things, like they would line up with the same people.

So it's really funny that there's this notion that they have a monopoly.

Well, it's like you have the anti-family people or whatever on the left who are like all parents are fascists or whatever.

That's funny.

Anyway, I hate to cut it short.

We probably got to wrap up.

I got it.

You're in West Coast time, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

You don't stay up too late, do you?

No, not that late.

Yeah, not these days, pal.

Yeah, I imagine.

It's actually been good for me.

It's like I've been more outside all the, like, every day doing stuff.

I walk like a ton every day.

I'm in really good shape.

It's kind of funny.

I know you're super busy and probably shouldn't get our hopes up too much, but we are planning on doing an inaugural event in Chicago.

And it's just like everyone's going to be in Chicago pretty much in one place.

Would it be possible, September, for you?

I have no idea.

Maybe.

You should send me the dates or whatever, and I'll see.

Yeah, we haven't finalized them exactly, but as soon as we do, I'll just send them to you right away and see.

Yeah, I might be able to.

I don't know.

We'll see.

It'd just be nice to catch up.

Do you smoke?

I usually smoke cigars now.

Dude, I don't like cigars, but I'm like a vapor.

What about I'll smoke whatever.

I'll do it.

Like, I don't care.

I just don't do it.

I'm like, you're a vape guy.

Yeah.

No, because I'm a real nicotine ad.

I'm not like you doing your trivial adventurism.

I'm a lifer.

10 years ago, I was at a Renaissance festival.

And some guy who was like, he was a merchant, one of those themed merchants.

And they convinced me to try tobacco pipe.

I don't know what you call it.

But it was so he put on like a show for us, like me and my friends.

And he's like, so this is how you pack it.

And he was doing the whole act.

And ever since then, I like, I haven't tried pipe tobacco in a long time, but I've been a fan ever since.

I used to go to a tobacco shop that had, you could buy, like, I used to roll my own figs back in the day.

So you could mix in like 5 to 10% pipe tobacco in it.

And the pipe tobacco always has a better flavor.

So I used to be smoking these pistachio cigarettes.

They're so amazing.

Yeah, that's super cool.

But anyway, like a lot of the times in person I'll never talk and I'll be quiet.

But as soon as I have nicotine, I'll like literally never shut the fuck up.

I mean, that's what it's for.

It's like it's like a mental stimulant.

It actually it, yeah.

I mean, that's why I'm a lifer.

Like I'm I love it.

Yeah.

It helps me think, I guess.

Yeah.

That's why people do it.

I mean, like, I don't think everyone gets addicted to it or whatever.

Oh, I remember what I was going to say.

I was going to blame your people for my nicotine addiction because it all started with hookah as a fucking teenager.

And that was like the coolest thing in the world.

I don't know if that was like a universal thing in like the late 2000s, early 2010s.

Oh, yeah.

Like getting hookah.

Yep, all the time, every weekend.

We'd go to a hookah bar.

We'd get 20 McChickens for $20 back when that was possible.

Yeah.

And just chewing a bunch of people.

We brought a hookah.

We had a hookah set up in a car once.

So there was a.

While driving, no, I never done that.

It was like a big thing.

It was very funny.

I think about that sometimes.

It's not that big anymore because of vaping.

Vaping came in and just totally white.

It was like the pre-vaping.

I remember when vapes first came out.

Do you remember the bullet vapes?

The dangerous ones.

Yeah, the early vapes were fucking trash.

The ones that exploded.

Those were actually kind of fun.

They would like, they would be like super expensive, like designer ones, and then like the Chinese knockoffs, which I would get.

Oh, I remember the fucking custom rigs people had, you know, these fucking monstrous things.

I remember like you'd put a battery, they were called bullet vapes.

You put a battery in it, you'd put cotton on the top, and then you'd put vape juice on.

Oh, yeah.

And then it would blow like crazy giant clouds.

You'd be in.

This was so funny because, like, these were this is when it would first drop.

And like, we'd be in public places, right?

And you'd have like a friend.

It looks like you're a magician disappearing.

Yeah, you'd have like a friend like blowing like a giant cloud.

It didn't even look natural.

And everyone's just keeps coming.

Yeah.

Good times.

Good old days.

Oh, wait, what?

What year were you born?

Is it like 90?

94.

94.

Okay, because I'm 96.

So you and I are Zelennials.

That's why we have that.

That's why we get along, I think, because we're not.

I mostly get along with younger people, is what I found.

People who are in my own generation who are slightly older, are like very much out of touch with the world that I inhabit.

It's like if you're in between millennial and Zoomer, it's actually a unique thing, I think, because it's like Zoomers went too fast, and then Millennials are way too slow and super cringe.

And then Zelennials are like the golden mean, where we're like, yeah, yeah, the only voice of reason.

Well, it's like we like inhabited the exact moment of the change.

Like, I think it's like something to do with the placement of birth where your own maturity was happening with the maturity of the internet itself.

Exactly.

So they kind of come to be like the same thing.

Yeah.

Because it's sort of like you, because you have a mental sort of map of what memes or whatever, like what was the internet at these various age points.

And it's sort of like that was the first big wave of a bunch of kids on the internet, right?

Like we were, I mean, I was like a little form warrior when I was like 12.

So I've been on the internet for a very long time.

And I've watched its development at the same time as I grew up.

And like, I don't know, I reflect on that a lot.

I don't think that's true if, for instance, you were born in like 2008 or something.

Yeah, you just 16 right now.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

You don't know how it was on YouTube when they had the iPhone 12 conference.

You could watch full movies on YouTube in 2006 or 2000.

Yeah, yeah.

And then when there would be like Halo 3 montages with Let the Bodies Hit the Floor.

Oh, yeah.

That was like the last Quran 2016 was for that era of the internet.

Because that was like the Trump propaganda was like Call of Duty to like Squickscope montage Trump, like game fuel.

Like Monster Energy.

That's the Illuminati Dorito show.

Yeah, yeah, Dorito, Illuminati.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And then that disturbing Shrek stuff.

Shrek came back in a really bad way as a rapist.

Oh, that was from Newgrounds.

You can bring Newgrounds for that.

Yeah.

100%.

But I mean, Newgrounds, they got Smiling Friends on TV.

Like, I don't know.

It's funny to see a flash cartoon now on HBO or something.

I'm like 30.

I'm like, holy shit.

Do they have those?

Like all of these HBO?

Have you not seen Smiling Friends?

It's actually pretty funny.

They have a really good election episode, which was very funny.

Wow.

It's a good show.

Pretty funny show.

Way better than any other one of the animated sitcoms.

I mean, it's like South Park level is what I would say.

Because that's like seems to be the gold standard of animated satires in America.

Yeah.

It's a good show.

You should like it.

It's actually much more intelligent than it seems.

Yeah, I mean how long is each each episode?

Ep the episodes are literally like twelve minutes.

Oh yeah, yeah, you can literally watch two seasons of it in like an hour and a half or something.

Yeah.

There's only two seasons too.

But it's worth your time.

Uh there's like on Max.

It's funny as what it's called now, Max, right?

The stream.

Yeah, it's on Max.

Yeah.

What a what a what a colossal L to drop HBO.

No one that's the only thing anyone cared about.

Yeah.

Anyway, Logo.

I don't know, dude.

It's been good.

We could go on forever.

See, like, I would like to meet up just to hang out.

But people were like-minded.

That's what I'm saying.

We're going to be in Chicago.

I'll probably be there for a few years.

It's a real tough sell because I fucking hate Chicago.

But if you wanted in Omaha or something.

Yeah.

Well, we haven't even finalized everything yet, but it's just convenience for everyone.

being able to yeah yeah yeah central i get it i'm just oh man chicago anyway all right i'll wait i'll head out good night see you later

Okay guys, time flies fast when you're having fun.

We had a fun conversation with Logo.

And I wanted the final thing I wanted to say actually that I didn't get to is let's not spend time attacking the Trotskyites because it makes us look weak.

And plus, like, they're not really doing anything like sacrilegious, if you want to call it that.

We just don't agree with what they're doing, and we're not going to do it ourselves.

And we're just going to do our own thing, like, straight up.

Um

I wan 'cause I saw some people attacking them and I just let them know, like

It's not the move.

Makes us look weak, makes us look stupid.

Nobody cares uh that your of your nuances about distinctions.

Um

And yeah, beyond.

I'm not talking about Trotskyites in general.

I'm talking about those ones that went viral.

Like, do we approve of how they went viral?

No, but now that they have, let's not make ourselves look weak and like tell these like based conservative accounts that are like literally Elon Musk, Psyop, Zionists.

Oh, no, no, guys, those aren't real communists.

Those are it's like, no, no, no.

We're not gonna, we're not even gonna fucking entertain it.

All right, anyway, guys, uh, yeah, we're not gonna be like those.

Whatever pan-leftist records.

Uh, the leader of Hamas.

Was martyred in Tehran.

I will not be able to report that news to you today, tomorrow, or not tomorrow.

Next time I'm live, we'll probably have more news about it for me to cover it.

I think I touched upon a lot of the things talking to Logo I wanted to talk about.

So we'll leave the rest for next time.

Anyway, guys, good stream.

See y'all.

when I see you.

Bye bye.