Heated political debate

What's up, everybody?

Juzan, what's going on, brother?

ACP Shogun, what's going on, brother?

I appreciate you.

Alright guys, we are going to get into our weekly Confront the Chairman.

Yeah.

And um

Well, what else?

Well, we have some very interesting things that are dropping very soon.

I can't give you the exact time.

It'll be interesting timing.

And it's going to put a lot of the things the recent attacks against us into perspective.

Really it will.

It really will put it into perspective.

I want you guys to be uh uh aware that the enemy has now been falsely led to believe that we are no longer pursuing litigation.

Something they're going to realize is a very, very poor misjudgment on their part.

within the next month or two.

But they are resorting to open and brazen defamation now.

Just open and brazen defamation.

Just outright lies.

Outright lies.

They've been trying to be a little bit careful in the past few months because of the legal consequences that they've been faced with.

Now they are resorting to open defamation.

They're just straight up lying.

Like straight up, openly just lying about us.

You guys need to be on the lookout.

You need to be there.

I don't care how many alts you have to make to defend the truth because we have to defend our party legally.

We have to defend our rights.

And there's laws about this for a reason.

You know, there's precedent in civil court about things like this for a reason.

Because it's unfair for people to be able to just tell open lies about us, which in real life are hurting our reputation and institutions.

And because we'll go to a university and they'll print out tweets of this person making a claim about us.

And that's what we have to deal with sometimes.

At Emory, they were printing out, ACP wasn't formed at that time.

But we have so much, we know that they use these lies in institutional settings to block our party, to attack us, to slander us.

And you guys need to be very, very aggressive in confronting defamation and lies about the party, especially the party, okay?

There's a market for lies about our party.

The enemy knows that.

And they think there's going to be no legal consequences.

They think that we're afraid of discovery because they think that we're doing something illegal, which we're not.

But for the record, even if we were, I wouldn't be scared of discovery anyway.

I am fully willing to pursue whatever consequences arise from defending our party's honor.

Because honor to me is everything.

I was at Sayyid Nasrullah's funeral with the full expectation that I might die.

I will not quit.

There is nothing that will obstruct.

My mission to defend the honor of this party.

Nothing, there is nothing I won't do.

I don't have fear of anything.

I don't know what these people think they're going to accomplish as if I'm just gonna give up one day.

The day that I give up will not.

That will not be a day.

That will not be a day on God's green earth.

that anyone in their own lifetime will be able to experience.

Um I don't know what they think.

I mean

You have to really imagine everything I would do before I would even consider the possibility of quitting.

And these people would really realize, it would dawn upon them that everything they're doing is in vain.

And I've been saying this.

And they won't listen and that's okay.

That's okay.

But I don't know what their goal is.

I don't know what the goal is, you know?

You think I'm going to quit now, or it's just going to, we're going to pack it up, or we're going to stop?

Um.

We are pursuing this legally, absolutely, full steam ahead.

Our whole legal team is has been working overtime for weeks and weeks.

The only reason it's been taking long is because there are multiple parties involved that we're going to be filing suit against.

And there are also multiple different attorneys we're working with and contracting with.

And sorting that out has been the biggest part of it.

But that is all wrapping up.

And

We're gonna go through with this.

We really have nothing to fear.

Um we don't care about what the consequences as far as we're concerned are going to be for this.

All that matters for us is defending our party's honor.

Even if I was doing something illegal that would land me in jail, which is not true by the way,

It would be enough for me to set the precedent for defending the honor of our party against lies.

Even if I had to go to prison for the rest of my life, someone else would take my take my place as chairman of the American Communist Party, a party that will defend its rights.

Against defamation.

Against libel.

So let me be absolutely clear about that.

The enemy, somehow, for some reason, at this point, thinks I fear something.

What do I fear?

What do I fear?

Having literally put my life on the line several times, what do I fear?

It doesn't need to be proven that I don't fear anything in pursuit of the defense of the American Communist Party.

I literally have no fear of anything.

Um only God.

Anyway.

Let's um

Let's start the space, confront the chairman space.

Again, with so many attacks against us all the time.

You'd think that this would be so, so damning that if you were to confront me with it, I would somehow be shocked.

I wouldn't be able to, oh, what am I going to do?

Oh, I don't know.

I don't know.

But you know, every time I bring one of these people on to explain very specific lies they're telling about us, I always get some story of, well, look, everything started when I was in the Discord and I had a fight with someone and the mod banned me.

What does that have to do with the fucking lies you're telling?

You know, it's almost like people have this idea that if you disagree with us about something or if you get into a fight with one in the discord or you have some parasocial bullshit, that somehow justifies you telling lies.

All of the other lies they say about us are now justified because it's negative and they also have negative feelings about us.

So all negative feelings evoked about our party are somehow justified because they're your way of articulating your very specific, very specific grievance.

Every time I brought a hater on, they go, look, I don't care about all that.

I just disagree with you about, you know, your views about the national question in Ecuador.

And it's like but you can have that disagreement, that's fine.

But that doesn't justify you throwing all principles out of the window and then you know identifying immediately with every piece of bullshit that's thrown against us and spreading bullshit about us yourself, okay?

Just because we disagree with you about the national question in Ecuador doesn't give you the fucking right to just willy-nilly say the whatever the fuck you want about us without consequences.

You know, just because you disagree with us about the circumstances of the Sinno-Albanian split doesn't fucking justify you.

It doesn't somehow automatically make it true that we have a different position than you on the Sinnoh-Albanian split.

So now this automatically means that we're all murderers, we're all evil, we've done every crime in the world, we're doing all the drugs, we're committing all the crimes, we've done all these horrible fucking things, we're so evil, we're the worst people in the fucking world, we've genocided a million, committed so many, like those are completely separate fucking things.

The only thing that any of it has in common is that they evoke and stir negative feelings, okay?

Not all of these negative feelings are caused by the same thing.

So qualitatively, stop treating them the same fucking way.

Stand on business as far as what your specific problem is and leave it at that.

Hello?

Go ahead, unmute yourself.

Hey Ho and Hawes.

I'm good.

First time long time buddy.

What's that?

First time, long time.

Uh sure.

Okay.

I think I I think I'm catching up to you in media rest here.

You were just talking about people lying on you.

Yeah, on the party.

You know, I used to follow Johnny socialism.

And I actually kinda thought I was I'm yeah, I'm like an ex-hipster.

I had like uh I had like a chubby hipster wife with tattoos.

And so I had I had like a lot of brotherhood with him.

But I really disagreed with how he disagreed with you because

He would just latch on to everything like you've been saying.

And when Danny Shaw was saying that you guys were like bringing weapons to Haiti, I said, man, if you want to bring Hawkin down, don't make him sound like a super spy.

Well, look, I mean, that person was a member of our community.

A lot of people forget that.

He was a member of our community.

He's in my DMs with Gorillas and Sons.

And things went south on some very specific issues.

And he had bad experiences with the community.

And then that somehow led him down a path of trying to dox me.

Failing, but still trying.

The intention is what counts.

Just because of that, by the way, nothing else.

Because of this, I don't know, it was the barista thing, and then it was some other, I don't even remember.

It was so nebulous as far as the reaction it provoked.

And then now he has become famous as a prolific liar about us and our party.

So much so that we've been forced to take legal action about it.

But he is not even.

How legal is that legal action, though?

Because I've heard that you are sending out CNDs that you don't have.

Are you going to follow through on the CNDs?

We are going to follow through on the ones that we consider to have done the most amount of harm to our reputation and contain the most prolific and brazen lies.

So those are the ones that we're going to follow through on.

Then once we get the precedent on those, we're going to pursue all of them.

But we need to get the precedent first.

We need it legally documented that there is a widespread culture of lying about us.

Just so because the first one we do is going to be what sets the precedent.

Once we get that, we're basically going to go on the offensive against every single person we've ever sent one.

That's good.

Yeah, you can't let him call your broth.

And you know you'll you'll see in a in a matter of months, okay, if not less.

We expect it to take maybe years, we don't know.

But debate but Haz, I want to debate you.

Sure.

Because, you know, it's it's been too much damage control.

Hasn't it been too much damage control?

It's not damage control, it's defending the truth amidst libel and defamation, which we have to do right now before because the courts is a much slower process.

And we're here and now.

So that's why

We're doing both, okay?

It's not damage control.

If I l if I say that Matthew W.

Knight, um, you know, uh raped dozens of people, you know, I think you would maybe be interested in

Correcting the record, right?

I wouldn't no, I wouldn't.

Well, I I you know with with all with all due respect, I think that if thousands of people were were, you know, claiming this and it was defining your reputation and your int 'cause all you have is a career, I imagine.

We have a party to defend.

But in case of your person and your career, and if it damages your career and harms your goals, I think you would actually be invested in correcting the record and telling the truth, actually.

Okay, but let's get into it, all right?

'Cause 'cause I think the energy is in debate and not respond 'cause sometimes it seems like you're responding to like, you know, a post gets like seventy likes and they're they're telling a lie.

That's you don't need to worry about that.

That's just that's just Wilding Gyres, my buddy.

That's what?

That's just wilding gyres.

You mean the Australian gyno guy?

Yeah, look.

Did you say gyno a lot?

Yeah, that guy.

Um, look, he is a person who pretentiously pretends to be like this accelerationist intellectual who's like identifying with the esoteric wisdom of Asia.

And all it took for him to totally lose his fucking mind and turn into an orbiter was getting negative socialization experiences on social media.

And that has made him personally committed to saying whatever he can about us negatively, regardless of the facts, regardless of the truth, purely out of pettiness.

And that was enough for me to prove that these pseudo-intellectual, pretentious people can be brought down to the lowest levels of pettiness and vulgarity and smallness.

And that is alone is what satisfies you know.

What I had said about to prove as far as because I did I very much dislike this smug pretentiousness of being an Australian pretending to be some kind of esoteric, you know, uh sinno accelerationist who knows all of these Taoist wisdoms and you're so above it all and you're just watching the shadows and look at what you've become now.

You've become a fucking lowest of the low piece of trash trash trashy TV.

So in any case, what did you want to debate though?

Because if he wants to debate, he should come in here and debate himself.

Uh I mean he would probably do like Lysenkoism, but that's played out.

I I have a bigger goal for you, Haas.

I want you to fold up ACP.

I want you to end it.

I want you to go back to being 2022, 2023 Haas.

Infrared.

I know.

I think that is what a lot of the feds want.

They just, they're saying, I've been warned, by the way, these people warn me.

They give me hints.

They go, Haas, you need to cut it out.

All these anonymous people, they're so creepy.

They'll be like, Haas, you're barking up the wrong tree here.

You got to shut it down.

You got to just go back to being a funny streamer because this.

You don't even know.

You're way in over your head, you know?

I have to say, I think it's more that ACP Lex hasn't proved its necessity because let me give you my strongest example.

Chris Morlock, right?

He's like your Berkeley branch, Berkeley, California.

No, he's not recently.

What are you talking about?

He's not our Berkeley branch.

He's a single individual who is now in the Pulitz Bureau, by the way, who is in the California chapter, one of our largest chapters.

California chapter.

It's the California chapter.

Okay.

They sent eight people to a protest of the University of California system.

Part-time employees' union or teachers teacher substitute teachers' union, what was it?

Get to the point.

But PSL does this better than you guys.

Like, why are you doing what the Voy Scouts and what the PSL do?

You have to prove your necessity somehow else.

When was the PSL formed?

Uh I actually don't know.

You tell me.

You can guess.

Um seventies.

Really?

When were we formed?

Uh l a year ago.

Right.

So if a party that has decades on us has more numbers and is doing things more aggressively and uh

With a wider scope than we are.

I don't think that's incredibly But is that like that?

What are the like the activities you're ins you're interested in doing is like is like trash cleanups, like Eagle Scout projects?

Because the Boy Scout can do that.

No, community service is one of the things we do by default.

But we have a national labor strategy that we're currently pursuing, which is very promising, in addition to many other things.

So the idea that just because we do community service and outreach, that that's the only thing we do, I think a cursory glance on our main X profile would disprove that claim that that's all we do.

All right, let me move to point two.

Okay, cut Midwest marks loose.

Cut them loose dead weight.

They're a millstone around your neck.

Okay?

These guys do not know economics.

They are gold bugs.

They talk about Vanguard and BlackRock as like these spooky ghosts.

But they don't even know what they do, they don't understand the corporate structure of Vanguard.

Yeah, I don't I don't think you're particularly serious here, and I don't understand what the intention is.

Um look, I'm an orthodox pseudo doxological Vanguardist, okay?

Van literally Vanguard, like Van out of Vanguard and Black Rock.

They didn't name themselves that because they like the word.

They're it.

That's it!

You gotta hurt?

No, I'm just gonna let you, um I guess, um, yeah, let me explain it.

Let me explain it.

Okay, I'm gonna allow you to kind of

I'm giving you this silence so you could really reflect upon what you're accomplishing here with this.

Let me tell you why.

Who owns Vanguard?

Who owns Vanguard?

Um I'm going to go ahead and respond to your proposal about quote-unquote cutting off Midwestern marks.

That is not a relevant proposal in any way to the party because the party, while consisting of people from Midwestern marks, is not infrared or midwestern marks.

It's the American Communist Party.

And if you have theoretical disagreements about some of our members' views on economics, that's fine, but I don't understand what you're even trying to confront me with here, besides the fact that you have differing views about economics than someone in Midwestern Marx supposedly.

So Midwestermarks doesn't reflect like a party in general?

You have to point to specific instances of members of our party or members of our leadership voicing views that Oh, come on, man.

I don't want a homework assignment.

I don't want to I don't want to go I don't want to turn my mic off and go back and search for tweets and then tweet it into the So I'm a very busy person and every week I I hold a confront the chairman space.

I think doing your homework in between that time is not a lot asking as far as you know you wanting to take a look at they if I say that they treat Vanguard and BlackRock as being these spooky ghosts and they don't know anything about it.

Is that something that you disagree with?

I disagree with your characterization of their views on it.

Yes, I do.

Okay.

Well, I'll take the homework assignment.

All right.

And we're going to post it.

We're going to post it by Vanguard, and then we'll talk about Vanguard.

But I have one last point, okay?

You want to do point three.

Three is a nice round number.

Aren't you interested in bringing up some of the more sensational claims that are made about us and and the big one?

Yeah.

Because uh you know you guys were in damage control mode after the whole Danny Shaw thing, and I agree with you guys on the Danny Shaw thing.

He was just he's a pathological thing.

What what what do you mean by damage control?

I mean dedicating like a stream to recapping and reviewing some Twitter thread that has like a hundred likes that's you know talking bad about your reputation.

You don't think it is important for the public and for the party to know um what actually happened?

Hey, yeah, I think that's the only thing that's going to be.

Why is it that our detractors are the only ones who are allowed to tell their side of the story?

Why can't we tell our side of the story?

What is Nancy this the strongest woman in America, Nancy Pelosi, what did she do about all the conspiracy theories about Paul Pelosi?

Nothing.

Yeah, and she's going to be under a guillotine in a matter of years probably.

Well, she's going to be dead in six months.

It's a really terrible example to use.

From old age, from old age, from old age, from old age.

But here we go.

We're going to move on to the third thing.

Okay?

Third point.

Young men.

Too young.

No families.

No women.

Name one example with evidence.

Name one example that there are BKB.

You lost BKB, your last female member.

So, do you have any evidence?

I'm just asking if it's a confusion.

Do you have any evidence that Bree was the only or even the most prominent female member of our party?

Where's the evidence that Bree was the only female member of our party?

Hey, look, all I know is what comes across my TL.

But she was a hitter for you guys.

Blue Mustang?

That's all you know.

Oh!

That blue Mustang?

Woo!

What are you talking about?

I dunno.

I thought it was cool that she had a blue mustang.

So you did make another claim.

You made the claim that

Our party has people that are too young, what do you mean by that?

Well, uh wh who who who's the recruiting dr drive aimed at right now?

What's up?

Twenties men and not women.

And is that an optics concern?

These are just open questions.

You think people in their 20s are too young?

Sir, I'm in my 20s.

Yeah, but you're smart.

You know, you're smarter than these NW.

I don't want to glaze you too much.

I like you.

But, you know, a lot of your members, they have the scars and the hallmarks of being young men.

Like, you know, I think of you guys as being a phenomenon that emerged out of the manosphere in a certain sense.

You know, too whole.

That's manosphere stuff.

Why is that manosphere stuff?

Why is two-hole manosphere stuff?

Why is going on an e-girl stream and arguing with her about genitals manosphere stuff?

Are you asking me that, Huff?

Yes, I am.

Because when I was on Twitch and when I was Twitch streaming, before I had any real political...

You went on dating shows.

You went on the roundabout dating shows.

Right, but I was engaging in content that was purely for entertainment and wasn't really serious in any political capacity at all.

And by the way, you know, at that moment, at that time in our community, we actually had feminists as mods, you know, in our in the chat in Twitch and in our Discords and everything.

So, and it was very, by the way, almost all of them were feminists, actually.

So there was a lot of silliness.

There was a lot of comedy.

And by the way, you know, it wasn't particularly a very I wasn't wearing suits and being like very serious, okay, as the chairman of a party.

I was wearing beaters with a really shitty camera in my apartment.

I like the club and the sword.

Exactly.

So and that whole thing, by the way, in general,

Um

If this, if it confuses people how I could be so ridiculous back then and somewhat composed and serious now, I very much detested social media and streaming culture and political live streaming in general.

I absolutely wanted to just destroy all of it and make a complete mockery of all of it and constantly prove how unserious the medium itself was until I got to a point where I realized that the message is loud and clear.

Others have proven its quote-unquote unseriousness far better than I could possibly.

And now I've gotten to a point where it's superfluous.

I mean, there is no serious, real foundation of authentic discourse outside social media that survived.

There's no prestigious academic institutions where real discourse happens.

There's no serious round tables and discussions going on and more refined podcasts.

It is all just this extremely hyper-modern attention economy.

And I decided at a certain point to just own up to it and take a more wise view of the long game, that it's a marathon and not a race.

So by the way, in good faith, that's how I respond to your question.

It has nothing to do with anything Manosphere or whatever you're talking about.

To be honest, pff.

I had always made a point of separating my person individually, you know, from the actual political cause.

The real political cause is not manosphere.

It's not the subject is not men.

The subject is not women.

The subject is the American working class.

And our party has institutionalized that fact.

It completely prohibits any discrimination on the basis of sex.

It completely prohibits any view that is short of acknowledging the political, complete political equality and comradeship of its female members.

That is what I believe as an institution for the American Communist Party and in my capacity as chairman.

That being said, we have not prohibited humor and being a normal human being and having a personality.

I have less of that nowadays because of my institutional responsibilities.

Um but in any case.

Well we know it's good PR.

Good PR to say the things that you're saying.

It's not PR.

But I think it's bad PR to do so much damage damage control.

Because you want you what you wanted me to say when I when I came up with Haiti, right?

That you're hoping to fight someone on that basis.

It's not PR, it's about a principle of truth versus lies.

It's a principle of defending the honor of our party versus those that are attempting to dishonor it with lies.

And it's very simple.

Who do you wh what what what do you want to debate today?

You want wild engineers to come up and say

I think that many of you are I don't know who you are in particular, but many people are making a lot of posts accusing us of a lot of different things.

I would like them to confront me with their accusations and their claims directly and see if they hold up to scrutiny.

Well, that's that's good.

That that's that's the good content right there.

Isn't that the guru content?

I know I I guess in good faith I'm gonna interpret your cynicism as an attempt to basically say that you know everything we're just doing it all for clout to get attention for attention's sake to make money or for whatever but I think it should be clear by now after me being in the scene for over four years that everything I have done for attention in the past or in the present or whatever all of the attention all the whole purpose of it is for all of those volumes of attention to be directed toward the cause of politically constructing a Communist Party.

At a certain point that party was supposed to be the CPUSA.

Now it's clearly the American Communist Party.

The mission from day one has always been the same.

It has always been the same goal.

The goal has always been the construction of an independent Communist Party founded upon the principles of Marxism-Leninism.

That has always been the goal, it's never changed.

Everything I have done in public, everything I have done on the internet as Haas has been in pursuit of that goal and nothing else.

There is no way to rationalize or make sense anything I've done.

My mistakes.

and my uh correct decisions, notwithstanding.

Everything I have done, the only thing, the only way you could actually consistently interpret the rationale behind what I do is that I want

The revival of communist politics in the 21st century and in the United States in particular.

All right.

I'm going to take that advice.

I'm not going to be so cynical.

I do think you're at cross-purposes a little bit, but that's just, you know, that's emerging out of it.

If I could have easily gone to Miami, you know, a few years or a year ago and done extremely trashy content and gotten really viral and famous, really doing Manosphere stuff, going on Fresh and Fit every week, all that kind of shit.

I could have.

The only time I went on Fresh and Fit was to debate someone, a right-winger.

They were just hosting the debate, and I was already chairman of the party.

I had so many opportunities to just go viral and make a fuck ton of money, but they didn't align with the actual goals I was pursuing.

So, I didn't do it.

So, if you want to be cynical and say this is all just content and it's all just about.

Internet virality or whatever, you're gonna have you have a hard time actually explaining why I've made the decisions that I have.

No.

Well, what I'm saying is that it's not all about it, but it's indispensable.

Indispensable, isn't it?

Okay, I wanna ask you a simple question.

Yes.

What did Lenin say was the foundation of a workers' party?

During his time, this was the Social Democratic Labor Party, but what was the foundation of the party for Labor?

Final answer.

What's your answer?

Tech Bros, final answer.

Can you?

I can't hear what you're saying.

Tech Bros.

Time in motion, man.

No, he said it was the newspaper.

He said it was media.

And I would like you to just guess what that looks like in the 21st century in terms of how media has evolved.

Zur, what's going on?

Aren't you agreeing?

Wow.

Holy shit.

Thank you.

And also Sleeper Cell.

Sorry, repeat that.

Aren't you agreeing with me now?

Like, the spectacle comes first?

It's not a spectacle, it's communication.

It's that simple.

We are not telepathic animals who can somehow remotely, you know, communicate the goal of organization to each other without actually engaging in the act of communication.

If you're interested in political organization, communication is central.

And how communication has evolved in the twenty first century probably should be examined.

There are Trotskyites who still are printing newspapers because they believe in the sanctity of the printed press for some reason.

But we live in the twenty first century and I don't think it's falls within the spirit of Marxism to just emulate and repeat outdated ideas.

Like I'm saying.

Like a what?

It's like I'm saying.

It's like I'm saying it, like I'm hearing myself talk right now.

'Kay.

D G, what's going on?

So what what what I'm gonna teach you I'm gonna teach you guys about Vanguard.

No, we don't want to hear your this is not your time to act.

No, not now, not now, not now.

We i we want to hear about all these things.

We would like you to confront us with the lies you say about us.

Well I don't say any lying.

Well those of your friends, those that you regard as credible, what are some of the ones what are some of the things you've heard about us that you find credible?

That I find credible?

Yeah.

Um

Very little.

Very little.

Right.

And it's and it's partially because you can somehow see that.

I am I actually am I'm ex-NSA.

So when people talk about like NSA agents, anyone from the NSA laughs when they hear NSA agent.

Okay.

Do you know that that's funny?

Do you know that that's a joke?

It's very funny.

Unfortunately, you know, Comedy Night has come to an end.

Um.

Sebastian, I'm going to bring you as a speaker.

Go ahead.

Cool.

Yeah.

Hello, Hawes, can you hear me?

Yeah.

Uh I'd just like to start by saying uh I respect what you've been doing, your community building, it's a lot of good work.

Um I just wanna say why not divest from uh I I don't follow everything so please uh point of privilege, excuse me, um why why not divest from Trump these days?

Uh what investment in Trump do you notice that you think we need to be divesting from?

Can you t tell me your position on Putoon at the moment?

And brush off.

We very much are in solidarity with the Russian people and the Russian state's pursuit of self determination and sovereignty.

in contradiction to US hegemony and imperialism.

Uh Putin, isn't he a mafia boss rather than a communist?

Or any type of anti-imperialist?

Isn't he trying to impose his own form of imperialism?

No, I don't see any imperialism Putin is trying to impose.

What about uh the situation in Georgia?

What about it?

I mean, is Georgia part of the Western bloc or do you think?

I guess it would be for the Georgian people to decide, and they seem to have decided by electing a relatively pro-Russian President.

Now, that a few college liberals in the city uh in the cities have a problem with that, who are in in the minority, as proven by the results of the election, in no way justifies shifting the blame onto Putin for the decisions of the Georgian people.

Is uh Trump the KB G K G B version of the Gorbachev CI A that d do you know what I mean?

We have not been presented with any information nor have we found any information that suggests Trump is in any way working for Russia.

I mean we can say the same thing for Gorbachev.

Um Well, I don't know about that actually.

Uh the issue is that we can't really judge intentions, but we can judge um just like through a Mearsheimer lens or a Le a realism l lens, we can see that pretty much every move that Trump has made has been pro Russia.

That is not necessarily true, but

There is some mystery surrounding Trump's motivations.

Uh there has always been mystery, by the way, but we don't I I will admit the situation is not very clear to me as far as I hear a lot of theories that this is just the uh neoconservative strategy to disentangle Russia and China.

I don't know how convinced I am of that, but I I think right now in the world there's a lot of uncertainty and there's not a lot of clarity.

There is a new antagonism between Israel and Turkey that's happening.

There's realignments that are occurring at rapid pace.

And then there's also the fallout between the United States and NATO and the European Union in particular, led by Trump.

So it's all very mysterious to me.

I have theories, I have an idea of it, but I don't have a certainty.

And one of the, I guess, weak spots is that uh the weakness between the China-Russia the possible weakness between the China-Russia relationship as well

And why do you think that is?

Is that because I think it's because I don't think Trump has shown any interest in Taiwan so far.

I think he has made indications before he's not interested in it.

And I think that he has communicated he doesn't care about imposing the paradigm of human rights upon China.

I don't know what the strategy of US encirclement of China is going to be if Trump alienates, especially if he begins to alienate the Anglo-Saxon allies.

He started already with Canada.

The UK not overtly, although tensions seem to be rearing over the Ukraine conflict.

Australia would be a big indication as well.

Um, I don't know where the angle is going to come from.

Before it had been Taiwan, and Taiwan separatism was the

Way the US was going to basically launch its attack against China.

Then there was the attempt to uphold unilateral, you know, UN conventions, for example, on the sea and on maritime rights, as far as China's disputes with some of its neighbors like the Philippines.

Trump seems less interested in upholding the unilateral rules-based world order in the way that his predecessors have.

He also seems less interested in Taiwan separatism.

I don't know what the angle is going to be against China militarily and politically.

We know economically what's going on is very clear.

Militarily and politically it's not very clear to me yet.

And what is uh just to uh push you a little bit because I myself go back and forth on uh the commitments of the CCP to uh communism uh mainly because of Xi Jinping's uh uh basically uphold um destruction of the rule of law uh a couple years ago 20 couple years ago if you know what I'm talking about.

Yeah, look, all this Reddit stuff The current administration doesn't seem like they care about it.

You know, this this Reddit stuff you're talking about about the rule of law.

It's all meaningless now.

It means nothing.

I remember in 2021 I used to argue with the CIA kind of streamers and people and bread tubers and they'd always tell me about human rights and the rule of law and this and all their criticisms of China.

And now that's over.

It's done.

America is tapped out.

So that means the whole thing is done.

And it's not even it's as it's as it is as worth taking seriously at this point.

uh as taking seriously the various feudal codes of the ancient regime and pretending they have any relevance in the contemporary setting.

There is no uh the whole l paradigm of liberal politics, uh neoliberal politics I should rather say, it's all done, it's all over.

It has no weight, it has no authority, it has nothing.

Canada Cana the pr the pr the principle of so-called rule of law is is Canada gonna be the one that's gonna be at the vanguard of that now?

I laugh at Canada and their geese.

R a rule of law doesn't mean a vanguard.

A rule of law is just following your own rules.

I know I n I don't know what you mean by vanguard.

I I am aware of what the notion of rule of law is and how it's been weaponized to criticize so-called authoritarian regimes.

I'm just telling you Trump doesn't really care about it.

The US doesn't seem to care about it anymore.

Um, it's over, it's done, it's not relevant.

Hi the the rule of law isn't isn't about so of course the Americans the American uh re um let's say republic or is is right now steep steeping in its own moral bankruptcy.

Right.

Um but so now there's the EU and there's Canada, uh places which have no authority in the world as far as any serious players are concerned.

But the rule of the rule of law isn't necessarily um it's a sa it's it's a sac sacrosanct thing.

It's not a liberal sacrosanct acc according to who and what.

according to it itself, it's just the fact that you follow your own A genuine sovereign and a genuine political authority can absolutely sacrifice the consistency of legal formalism in circumstances in which the content of the authority of the state is at stake.

The content of the authority of the state.

Um sure, there are like there are like wartime scenarios if if that's what you're talking about, but for the just for the fact of There are wartime scenarios, there are new historical circumstances, there are changes in the relations and forces of production that endanger the necessity of

new forms of authority?

For for me, the rule of law is just following the proceed the procedure that's on the law itself, following the piece of paper.

I think that China has shown a strong rule of law.

I don't know what your issue is even.

Well, the fact that she didn't necessarily follow the procedure that was set out and rather rather it was just how did he violate the laws of the CPC?

Well, it's an oligarchic mafia games playing that is uh that is formally and legally completely meaningless language.

How how did he violate its actual formal procedures?

Well this is informal things that are in no way enumerated according to the laws of the CPC.

That is that is just meaningless kind of speculation and perception.

It has nothing to do with the actual lawful procedures of the party, which absolutely have not been enumerated in such a way so as to prevent or preempt the possibility of uh Xi Jinping's reforms.

Okay, well let me take another angle then.

Um the other angle would be for example uh offshore uh pan uh you know offshore accounts of maybe not shi but uh his immediate family uh and it's always like well well no it's actually there's documented cases of uh not you're accusing Xi Jinping of corruption Well, not Xi himself, but definitely um his inner circle.

Uh yeah and there are who in his inner circle is corrupt.

Uh well, I have to look it up right now, but if you want, uh, just give me one moment and I can um I didn't come in with uh sorry, I work all day and um

Um gotta give me a moment.

Gonna give me a couple of minutes if you want me to actually look up specific uh uh people.

One moment.

Sorry, I'm very s tired as well.

Mm-hmm.

Oh man, I should come in more prepared for

A debate.

Oh well, k can you just uh k let's just say that it's a uh can you just give me the benefit of the doubt on on this point?

No.

I gotta do it, bro.

I gotta find spec well, there are lots of figures.

There's like l uh man, I have this all written down.

I think that's enough.

Um there's no one else requesting, so I'm gonna try to bring up co-hosts who can maybe I invited Kyle, let me invite Kayla.

Um co-hosts that could see people that I can't see.

And we just want to hear

'Cause a lot of people come in and they just presuppose that everything they've heard about us is correct.

And we would like um to see if that's true.

Al it's very rare people can evaluate their premises and their false biases, their false uh misinformation they've been fed.

They just take it for granted and assume it's fact when in fact it was never subjected to any kind of scrutiny.

Hello.

Hey, what's up, Kyle?

Can you see anyone requesting?

Uh yeah, there's two.

America Philae and Global Camaraderie something or other.

Okay.

Yeah, now there's three.

But I think that was just the guy that you just talked to.

So I'll bring up one of the others.

There you go.

Yeah.

Go ahead, American.

Well

Doesn't seem likely.

I'll bring up another one.

Um

Here, here's uh this guy.

Hey, Gravjuta.

Well, I don't know how you say right, but yeah.

Did I say right?

Uh I don't know what you're trying to say.

As I say how in Russian I say hello as like Dravjita or something like that.

Have we spoken before or?

Yes, of course we've spoken twice.

Okay.

Yeah, so I was at a at a space yesterday with what's the name, Zagano.

And there's this guy Karim Franciscini.

Basically he's a Moroccan Italian who fought with the I think the YPG in Syria.

And you know, we were talking about how he went to the Israeli T V channel to basically to enlist help for Israel to invade Syria.

So my point of this is like what uh what are the what are you called the communist uh ACP or other Communist uh parties doing to combat basically uh communist people that are basically taken by uh are are what are called uh controlled opposition by the government, basically they are aligned with uh USA and its empire and other neoliberal uh you know capitalists.

Well, we're currently currently suing them in court, so

Oh, who are you suing?

Uh we're suing a number of individuals who are aligned with the uh Cointel Pro uh controlled opposition, I guess you would call it.

Fake communists.

They don't even call themselves communists.

They're just these fake leftists.

Um you know there's one individual who violated several laws um that he's gonna be held accountable, not even just defamation, Danny Shaw.

Uh and then there's uh a few other individuals who work together in collaboration who are notorious for spreading lies about us on a on a mass scale.

So these people should need to be named and shame.

Any organization that does this, any organization that changes pots for what do you call either money or recognition need to be named in Shanghai?

For example, Fiorella Isabel is a famous journalist on X.

She was part of our tour, journalist tour group in Lebanon and even traveled with us to the southern border.

And then she leaked the she leaked our security of the press tour group and our location and our security and the itinerary for the resistance organized conferences to the Zionist press and to the Mossad.

So that's what she did.

She was basically acting as a Zionist spy that entire trip.

And the Jerusalem Times picked it up the Jerusalem Times or the Jerusalem Post picked it up and they used it to slander the entire thing and smear everyone, smear the entire resistance.

So

And she is she is directly working with and aligned with this cult that we're targeting of feds.

And we want the discovery to expose if these people are government agents.

And it's the right time to do it.

Because right now a lot of things are being exposed when it comes to the intelligence community, and we want to do it through the courts.

Zoni, what's going on?

True, true, true.

But just like the philosophy as well as certain people nowadays, it's just they're basically saying that America is good because it's protecting people like before the war in Gaza happened because Ukraine said how can you be with Russia because Russia is the aggressor.

There's a lot of stupidity going on.

And even what's his name, Slavo Žižek, which I'm disappointed by.

I don't think he's a Fed, but yeah, but you know, his philosophy.

Thank you so much for coming on.

I really appreciate it.

Kyle, is there anyone else requesting specifically ops?

Yeah, there's two more requests.

I'll put the guy who was next in line up.

Yeah.

Hey, can you hear me?

Yes.

To be honest, I'd really like a longer form conversation, but I know that's not the format.

I I would just like to challenge you on what do you think about Marx's main influence being Ricardo, you know, in Anglo economics.

In particular, I'd attack the labor theory of value as being the roots of Marx's theory of exploitation and really flate and he took it from Ricardo, which is interesting to me because it's an English thing, you know?

opposed to Anglo-American capitalist class, that's kind of where it comes he kind of saw himself as doing that thing.

That's what Kant Pot actually really illuminated for me.

He saw himself in that tradition.

He was kind of trying to fit in with them.

You mean he th I hear I hear I I hear the LaRouche people say this a lot, that Marx basically wanted to embed himself within British political economy versus the American protectionist school.

Yeah, some people even say.

I disagree with that premise because Marx was first of all setting about a critique of English, not just English, but the whole culmination of the school of political economy, which the English had made the most lasting and most notorious contribution to with Adam Smith.

And of course, Ricardo and so on, but especially Adam Smith.

Now, when it comes to the American school, and we're talking here about Henry George in particular, while Marx was not particularly enthusiastic.

About the protectionist and the American school and Henry Kerry and so on and so on.

Those were people that were advocating specific kinds of policies which Marx did not necessarily himself disagree with.

He just didn't believe they would ultimately resolve the fundamental contradictions of the capitalist system.

If you look at the Communist Manifesto, I mean, the notion of a land tax, I mean, these are not things Marx.

thinks i are wrong policies.

He was very critical of protectionism in general, um, versus free trade.

And he and by the way, Marx and Engels I think could be it could be paired up with their views on colonialism in the very beginning as well.

They were they were also um of the view that colonialism

had a historically progressive role.

Their views evolved over time and became more nuanced, you know, as they actually saw the development of history unfold before their eyes.

But I think it's a false dichotomy because the school of political economy, which is a comprehensive ability to kind of map out an understanding of what an economic system is and how it works, and what is the fundamental reality of value and so on and so on, that was never, ever something really

The the American School deigned to inquire upon or flesh out comprehensively.

Well, and how it holistically uh interacts with politics, political economy, as opposed to just economics.

Political economy is not necessarily about politics, it's just about understanding, you know, the the the fundamental economic realities of a given polity or a community, right, a nation.

That's too that was too metaphysical for the tastes of the Americans, so they didn't really

Explore that.

Yes, their pragmatism, maybe.

Like, again, I'd like to talk to you about the continental philosophers versus pragmatism and how they move past the Enlightenment.

But actually, the tie bow on this theme, does the ACP have a stance on the tariffs on that note?

Are they anti-protectionist?

I don't think we don't have an official position we've communicated.

What I'll tell you about my view is that I agree with Michael Hudson that the issue of tariffs will completely ignore the root cause.

Which is that maybe sometimes tariffs can be beneficial, but if unless they are paired with an ability to address a few things: one, the debt, the debt spiraling out of control, and then two, the cost of living going sky high because of the rentier economy, because all of these things that should be in the public treated as public goods and utilities and taken care of by the government are gobbled up by the private sector, which just treats them as rents and then they indefinitely raise the price of these rents in tandem with the raising of interest and debt.

And so if the cost of living is so high, then the cost of labor becomes extremely and astronomically high.

And it completely eliminates the entire purpose of tariffs.

If people can't afford college, if it's too expensive,

For people to live and get by, then production and doing business will inevitably be very expensive.

And that's why the government.

you know, historically was s was um encouraged to have a monopoly over infrastructure and, you know, public goods and services and whatever.

To lower the costs of business.

Yeah, I don't know, you know, uh, as long as you'll tolerate me.

I would push b like, I actually think um, you know, we could do autarky if they want.

Once it's what he's doing is a little silly because he i is operating with this paradigm of what seems to be Malay inspired.

Free market GOP Economics.

Where he wants to completely eliminate the role of the state.

Uh but on the other hand he wants tariffs.

And I think it's a recipe that could lead to very bad outcomes.

The important thing is that the state should be used to lower the cost of business.

In order to do that, it has to take care of a great deal of things that the private sector currently

has a monopoly over

Honestly, the the greatest thing I think Doge could do is actually like get their hands in Medicare.

But I yeah.

Um

I don't know.

What do you mean by get their hands in it?

Well, the state you know, I'm not an anarchist.

I'm not a doctor or a libertarian anymore.

I get it.

If you get a group of competent people together, they should be able to figure out how to make MRIs cheaper.

Like things like that.

Like what are MRIs?

Well, anyway, Mercury, thank you so much for coming on.

Let's uh bring on the next person.

Bought up man like Ray.

Go ahead.

All right, uh so you guys have shown so the ACP has shown solidarity to the Workers' Party of Britain.

Uh my question is, uh what are your thoughts on and have you tried to establish relations with the CPGB ML?

Yes, uh to an extent, yes.

I um so yeah, that's it really.

Okay, thanks.

Cheers.

Uh all right.

Let's bring on the next person.

I don't have anybody else requesting.

Caitlin, do you see anyone s?

No nobody requesting, but I do see some um pro-NATO Ukrainians in here, so maybe I invited them to speak, but let's see.

I see a request now.

Oh, it's just that guy before, um, Matthew, the NSA.

Yeah.

Hold on.

Hold on just a second.

I want you to I can idiot.

Can you hear me?

Alright.

BlackRock is a notorious investment manager firm that has worked closely with the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank to hyperprivatize

So we have um

We have uh no one who will confront us.

I wonder why for a party that is so maligned and so condemned and

So, um, attacked.

It's curious why they can't confront us with any of the claims they make about us.

I mean, I've also invited that Mass Strike Now account who fabricated uh some old Groiper screenshots and she won't come.

But I do see someone now, Christine, I'll bring her up.

Supposedly there's thousands of people invested in hating us.

I can't find a single one who will actually tell it to our face.

Christina, go ahead, please.

I just have a question about uh your like operations.

Uh this is not like a confrontation, but I just want to know like in terms of that uh you live in the Raspberry, right?

You live in the like the the Midwest.

So my understanding is uh uh what is like your form of uh as a political party, what sort of policies do you propose within the current system to um help uh working class people in b industrial be industrialized?

If you read our program, we we advocate a policy of um reindustrialization that is led by uh a new state and it is um purposeful, uh led by credit from a national bank, nationalized financial system, and uh basically prioritizes the long term benefits of building infrastructure and uh lowering the cost of enterprises.

What is the means to get that?

Well, that's political strategy.

That would it presupposes the seizure of political power.

I've noticed the ACP has had a lot of like um like uh PR mishaps.

Uh uh how do you like especially with the Jackson Hinkle, the former Bunny Bro Kashka, my question is um uh it does you know reputation of of course is a big value for any uh organization, whatever it is.

Uh how do you uh intend to vanguard and protect the image of the party?

Uh through litigating the matter in uh public court of law.

Don't you um a fair criticism of that is that this comes across as a little bit uh bourgeois, no?

No, we are l no be I'll tell you why it's not bourgeois.

Because if there were if there were no laws, yes, we would still have to take the law in our own hands to defend our rights.

In in in in the Wild West and in prisons and in third world countries where there are no laws, when you start lying about people and you start lying about a group and spreading bullshit about them, there are consequences.

So thankfully, we live in a civilized country that has laws where we can defend our rights.

Just like if someone breaks into your home, you're gonna call the police.

Well, yes, absolutely.

Well, we are defending our rights because we also have to follow the law.

And if we have to follow the law, that means we're going to use the law to defend the rights that the state claims that we have.

No, no, no, I'm not saying you shouldn't do it, but uh what I'm saying is the appearances for other people in the periphery or within the crowd, they might see it as a overly litigious as opposed to uh no it is not because defamation is very serious because when you when you have the unrestricted ability to lie about people and fabricate reality That is a form of violence that is no different than someone violently destroying something and blowing it up.

It's you're violently altering reality in a way that is illegitimate.

You are abruptly and violently trying to change people's perceptions in a way that doesn't reflect the legitimate norms of reality and society.

Okay, we are being accused of things that we are not guilty of.

We are being labeled in ways that we have nothing to do with.

It's being claimed that we have secret discord chats where our true view these are just complete, complete fucking lies.

I was someone personally subjected to the to lies for years.

They called me Adam to here and I did nothing about it.

I knew the same thing would happen to our party the minute we launched it and I was I didn't have any patience for it.

We're going to pursue it legally and we're going to defend ourselves in court and we're going to see in a public court of law what the truth and the facts are about our party and that's it.

I think that's a good strategy but what I'm referring to is just in terms of a PR approach like the Steysen effects.

We cannot control PR okay if someone with a very if feds boost an astroturf a tweet that makes something up about us thousands of people see it no matter how we react we are not going to change the fact that this is what people think that's why you have to litigate it in court and that's how it works that's why there are defamation laws that's why there's precedent for taking it to civil court to defend yourself from defamation because it's a weapon of war it's a weapon of war and the reason we have an ability to resolve it legally in our society is because in every other society on earth if the state does not protect its citizens rights to defend their reputation fairly citizens start taking that into their own hands and it's very ugly so thankfully we live in a civilized society you had made that point i was not questioning that point so so in prison if you start lying about someone and you say this person's a snitch and it was a lie i understand you are gonna get shanked so they are calling us feds and they fedjacket us for example okay they for example say that we're nazis and that we're just some nazi party that was renamed and that we have secret discords and all this crap

That they themselves have made up and are in.

They've made up so many things I could just name off of the top of my fucking head that we're running guns, that somehow uh we are full of police in our party, all of this nonsense, and there is no recourse we have except a court of law, none.

So like the um regarding the police uh officers that that uh there's a ma that said there's a rumored message saying that there is one is this a fake message that they photoshopped it?

I had immediately found out that there was one then and there for the first time to my surprise, and I said, This isn't a good look.

Let's not advertise this and let's talk about whether we should even allow this.

But before anything, in my judgment, right?

In my judgment, it wasn't fair that this fact should ever be published because I didn't know about it, and therefore it doesn't reflect the party's views on the matter.

So.

That was that.

And that was one guy who is in Washington, who is a deputy sheriff in a town with less than seven thousand people, who has a very upstanding and good reputation in their community.

And it's one guy only.

And we are still discussing it and debating it.

And had I had no experience with a party, my first instinct would be remove them immediately, no questions asked.

But I get pushback.

I get pushback from people on the ground who have experience who say, well, it's not particularly fair.

This is what his community thinks, the actual people in his community.

This is what he's done.

This is his character.

And that would be unfair.

So if I was just someone who is a streamer on the internet who has an ideology and thinks they fucking know it all, I would just impose my will.

But I don't know it all.

Neither does anyone else.

It opens up questions a party has never had to face before.

Do we, out of principle, just expel them, regardless of their good deeds and good character and good standing in their community, because of the overall systemic issues with the police in America?

Or are there nuances to this issue, given the fact they're not a city cop, given the fact it's an extraordinary and unusual circumstances, should we just unilaterally expel them and kick them out just because of the principle that the police are a bad institution?

A principle we don't disagree with, by the way.

Yeah, I understand that that makes a lot of sense.

My personal opinion of if you want to hear this, it might be a conflict of interest in the early stage when there is not enough vanguards and structure.

But a lot of other people discuss this sort of like this, the Pan-American person.

The Pan-American, like is the username as Pan Cominter intern.

That person is somehow saying they're associated with you and they're doxing people.

What is the substance of this?

There's no substance to it.

They supposedly have the entirety of our Politburo chat before January 17th.

Something Danny Shaw has illegally leaked.

Okay.

Find a single piece of evidence of us coordinating with anyone to dox anyone publicly as a party.

As a party.

Find a single piece of evidence of us coming together as a party and making a decision as a party.

Me, Kyle, and everyone coming together and saying, as a party, we're going to leak this person's information to the public.

Who is Danny Shaw?

What?

Who is Danny Shaw?

Danny Shaw is the person who doxed me by doxing my name.

He's a doxer and a Cointel Pro Fed, for all we know.

He's also a lot of other things you're going to find out in the coming days.

And he is the person who leaked the Politburo chat.

By the way, the Politburo is not the highest body of the party.

The executive board is.

So that was just the Politburo chat, which he leaked before January 17th.

He's supposedly leaked everything.

I see, I see, I see.

Uh so f did did pe did people not know your like uh full name before this incident?

No, they claimed falsely that it was Adam Tahir until Danny Shaw doxed me, and Brianna Barry Bree doxed me.

I see, I see.

But wouldn't it be expected of somebody in a political party that is to Christina?

If you're going to accuse us of doxing.

I not accuse you at all.

Even if that was true, these are the very same people who doxed me personally, who tried to dox me personally, failed, and then now openly spread Danny Shaw's dox about me.

Yes.

Where's the consequences for that?

Where's the justice for that?

I don't support doxing, but in such an environment, how do you defend yourself?

I agree with how you defend yourself.

The thing is, this space is called Confront the Chairman.

So I thought to ask you some questions that people are carrying on.

I'm giving you the answer.

I'm not giving you of anything at all.

At all.

I was just parodying that.

I hope these people are feeding you all this stuff.

So they feed you.

I don't know these people.

I have just seen them around, like on the Twitter.

Please, more.

Bring more of the consultants.

I don't really have much more.

These are just the two things I had on my bookmarks.

Oh.

I think there should be more, though, because there is more that they claim.

Well, I guess you can talk about it if you want, but I don't have anything more data said.

Thank you so much for your time, Haas.

Okay.

Have a lovely day.

Bringing up Carl.

Good.

Okay.

Can you hear me?

Yeah.

Okay, I don't so cut me off if you want me to leave because I don't have anything to confront you with.

But Danny Shaw basically claimed to the Palestine movement at NYC that he was expelled from the university he was a professor at.

You know?

Oh, yeah, we do.

And there's much more.

He also, low-key, like, kind of incited a race riot between Dominicans and Haitians and the Bronx.

He's a fucking fed dude.

I don't know what to tell you.

But he gave a crazy ass speech.

Just wait.

There's a lot about Danny Shaw the public doesn't know because this is the guy they're all colluding with and collaborating with.

That's not even the tip of the iceberg, right?

So stay tuned, is all we could say.

And it's not just Danny Shaw either.

It's his friends, the other wreckers, the other traders, plus these federal informants and child groomers.

So stay tuned because a big thing is coming much sooner than people think.

Okay.

Have a good night y'all.

You too.

There is nobody requesting right now.

Well, everybody got a sneak peek of what's coming, but yeah, we have no more requests that I can see.

It's just that Matthew guy wants to be able to do that.

I don't think anybody really wants to talk about that, frankly, but

Up to you, Haz.

Okay.

Who's the Vanguard guy again?

The guy who's uh was talking of oh, well we have another guy now who's been out before I think.

Oh, he just did not request.

Uh If you're gonna request, can you like keep it more than a second?

Jesus Christ.

Hello?

Yeah.

Uh hey, red salute Haas.

I'm really glad I got to talk to you.

And red salute to all my comrades here.

Uh I just have a question for you.

How do we organize like the American retail and bring about like the class consciousness over there, like like you know, the likes of Walmart, the DJ Maxes and stuff like that?

Thank you.

Can you repeat your question, How do we organize what?

Uh the the workers working at American retail because it's like an organized sector, you don't need a lot of skill to get into, but it's a question of organizing any segment of the American working class.

You we are beginning to beginning with those that actually have a legacy institutionally with precedent of organizing the power of labor, which is the blue-collar working class.

Once you have successes there, everything can spread to others with much more ease.

So the strategic sectors of the economy, the ones that are involved in the physical reproduction of society at its most fundamental level, in the 21st century, that is the industrialized blue-collar working class.

So that is the strategy.

We're not gonna start with retail.

We're going to start with the traditional proletariat.

Cool.

Thank you.

Thanks.

Yeah, I'm out of uh requests.

Again.

We have a lot of the uh haters listening.

Uh they just appear too cowardly to have requested only the mad side.

Not a single one of them are willing to confront me with anything.

They won't even send someone to confront me.

Why is it so scary to confront me?

Now I'll give you an example.

They recently claim that we are a rebrand of a Nazi party, a Zoltanus' party.

Zoltanus is an op of ours.

And they're claiming ACP is rebranding his thing, whatever I even know the fucking name.

That is an actionable claim that we are gonna rope into our litigation.

It is outright defamation and libel.

There's not a single fucking person associated with Zoltanis that had anything to do with the reconstitution of the CPUSA into the ACP.

So, confront me with this claim.

Confront me with the supposed evidence.

Where's the evidence?

Again, it will be handled in a court of law.

But I also want to make a point of revealing how these people are cowards and liars who will not actually commit to what they are claiming.

Because they can't commit to it, because it's impossible to commit to a lie and remain consistent in the face of either evidence or lack thereof.

Someone is talking about me meeting Dimitri Symes Jr., a podcast host, because I was on his podcast.

A podcast that is public.

You can watch it, it's publicly available right now.

What is there?

I'm literally have to go to my chat to see what it is that we should be.

Confronted with?

Why are they only trying to confront people who don't know anything and lie to them and not confront me about the party?

I'm the chairman of the party.

Surely if you had dirt on our party, you'd be able to confront the chairman about it and he'd be shocked and he'd look fucking stupid and it would be terrible, right?

What are we trying to cover up?

What are we afraid of?

In what way are we being duplicitous or lying about who we are?

Is there no one requesting?

Sha the guy who wants to talk about Black Rock.

Even though he's supposedly best puds with, you know, this guy who's uh talking all this shit, he doesn't want to talk about the shit talking.

He just wants you to uh, I don't know, be a viral streamer and uh go back to wearing beaters and I guess uh I don't know.

I don't know what the agenda is.

Talk d Black Rock is gonna save humanity or something stupid.

I I couldn't tell you.

Okay.

Maybe he wants to come on to back up his buddy, but I just don't understand why he's uh I wanna make a announcement about one of the people who um

Was one of our detractors.

I'm trying to find because they want the evidence that the tweet, the screenshots they shared weren't from.

Our party, but they were from, um

They weren't from one of our supporters, but they were from uh

Here it is.

Okay, send it right here.

First I'll just send them that.

Yeah, uh Carl is back to requesting, but I don't know if he has to make an announcement 'cause I had promised in good faith.

So I don't know if you guys know the account Mass Strike Now.

You guys know the Mass Strike Now person?

Um they've been having a back and forth with a lot of people in our community and apparently it's created a lot of bad blood and there's been a back and forth and there's been um

There's been a lot of animosity.

I didn't know who they were, and I made no assumptions about who they were.

And I saw the tweet they shared on their TL about someone supposedly DMing them.

And I DM'd them saying, you know, look, I don't know if you're doing this in good faith.

I don't know who you are.

But we would like if this is someone from our community, we'd like to know who it is because we don't tolerate that.

And they had responded that, you know, basically

That in good faith

They

Are just upset about, you know, constantly being swarmed.

They don't want to settle disagreements in the way that it has been settled so far, with so much bad blood and animosity.

They don't want to be attacked and uh whatever.

And then they said, look, if we can

Come to a reasonable understanding, I'll remove it.

And um because they said they were coming from a place of good faith.

They didn't mean to engage in defamation, slander.

So I want you guys to take this as an example.

where sometimes people

Get roped in with certain communities where it becomes part of the socialization process.

that goes on on social media where people start attacking us a lot and it's not necessarily 'cause they hate us and they mean us harm, it's just because they get caught up.

And then it becomes a back and forth and then someone who is not a Fed

Gets weaponized by bad faith actors against us, and we want to prevent that as much as we can.

And guys, the goal should always be to build bridges and not burn them because we're not the wreckers who are trying to sow division, we're not the wreckers who are trying to cultivate an environment based on antagonizing everyone who disagrees with us.

If someone disagrees with you but remains principled about it, your response should not be to treat them as a Schmittian enemy.

Okay, and this person convinced me, at least, by their conduct and their willingness to delete the tweet that they're not an enemy.

Um so going forward, I want you guys to go forward with the knowledge that they are coming from a position of good faith.

And going forward, they're not interested in attacking us in bad faith.

And you should not antagonize them.

And um

That's my

Official statement on that, you know.

Don't antagonize them because they don't inherently hate us and want to destroy us and they don't inherently mean us harm.

So

Let's move on to dealing with the more pressing and important matters when it comes to the defense of our party against actual real bad faith actors.

Well, what I have to say about that Mass Strike Now account was that I had actually those um that person that was DMing them, I knew DMs from that same person and that those screenshots were posted months ago.

They went viral.

This same person has been messaging a bunch of women online.

He's a groiper.

So, I mean, that Mass Strike Now account saying that you know they're engaging in good faith doesn't really make sense to me when they know this account is not an ACP supporter.

He harasses me once a month.

Maybe they thought it was one of our supporters.

No, it was a pretty public thing.

They just did this intentionally.

I mean, they're just being duplicitous.

Um yeah, look, I don't

I can't really know for sure what their intentions were, but regardless, it seems like they've made a gesture of good faith in uh deleting it.

And um

I think that signals that they're not really interested in engaging in that kind of behavior going forward.

Um

I think that look guys, this internet i uh stuff, it creates a lot of stress and intensity psychologically.

Maybe they got the DM, they didn't even check the profile and they just assumed it's it's because they had been beefing with us for so long, they just thought this person was associated with us.

Yeah.

Maybe, who knows?

Maybe, maybe not.

But I think it's fair that for them to delete this show's

An acknowledgement it was a mistake.

And

Give people the benefit of the doubt, you know?

If people harbor secret agendas against us,

We can't only God can judge them for that.

It's on us to not allow these people.

in our high positions of leadership that we have suspicions of.

Danny Shaw was with us for months, just like Bree.

We assumed

Nothing but good intentions from them.

Now they're on record having said that they were plotting to wreck the party from the beginning.

Ultimately the mistake fell upon us.

It fell upon us bringing Danny Sean to the Politburo.

Not having properly vetted him,

But now we have to defend our rights.

Regarding other people that are on the internet who are not in our party or they're not in a party.

Before anyone is ideological, before anyone is political, they're human.

Human nature is such that if they're getting huge volumes of negative attention, it's going to psychologically affect them.

Look at the Australian guy, gyno guy.

He started out as he's watching the shadows.

Then I did a little experiment.

What would happen if the gorilla swarmed him?

Because he kept talking shit.

He was so smug, I couldn't stand him.

He completely transformed into a different subjectivity.

like psychologically altered for life.

Now his whole life will be dedicated to us forever.

Why?

Because psychologically something affected him.

About experiencing multiple people negatively.

Have views.

It's the big other turned on him.

Something shattered his psych that will never ever be repaired.

This is the origin story for a lot of our villains who are not feds, by the way.

He's not a fed, he's just a smug retard.

Um.

Even Johnny may not be a fed.

His friend is, almost certainly.

He himself is just, um

He's being pushed along, you know?

So gorillas, you need to be

Fighting the right battles.

It's not your fault.

It's a but be k keep this f keep these facts of socialization in mind.

That are laws of human nature.

Because you guys really can drive people crazy.

You have that power.

Understand that you have that power to drive people crazy.

Um

That doesn't mean you relent and stop defending the party.

It doesn't mean you relent and cease correcting the record.

It means when someone reaches out their hand in good faith.

saying they no longer want

To attack us, move on.

If we had our way, we wouldn't have to attack anyone.

We would just be positively building, building, building, building.

We ha we're in this state now, this state of war.

Let's call it what it is, it's war.

Information war, sure.

I remember what I was told abroad.

You won't believe it, what I was told.

You won't believe it if I told you.

Some will laugh.

That's okay.

I was told this.

I was told.

By people who were in actual physical battles, real wars, they said

They said this information war happening?

It is fundamental.

And it the it it has just as much stakes as the physical battles.

This was told to me by people who were fighting physically.

Now they weren't encouraging me or telling they were just telling me objectively how they appraised the significance of information warfare.

We are in a state of war.

A legal war.

We're following the law.

There is still law and order.

But it's war.

We're under attack by people who have made it their goal to destroy us as a party.

And this will not be

Forever this will not last forever it will come to a conclusion

But right now we're in the middle of an intense, intense battle and an intense war.

This is a fact.

This is a fact.

There are many surprises in store for those who have decided to wage war against us.

And um

They should also know it's not too late.

It's not too late to turn back.

It's not too late to turn back and just if they disagree with us, prove it practically by constructing your own organizations and parties and strategies.

We won't obstruct you.

You don't have to obstruct us.

We can have a culture of polemical disagreement and that's it.

No need for slander, no need for making things up, no need for fabricating reality,

We have always left that door open.

We have always left the door open.

For principal disagreement.

It has never been the Communist way to seek out war for war's own sake.

But alas, it has never been the Communist way to shirk in front of the necessity of war.

and that necessity has imposed itself upon us because of the treachery

Of Danny Shaw and his co-conspirators.

On january seventeenth.

We have never expressed fear of war.

We have never indicated that we are unwilling to wage it and fight it.

We're here and we're in it.

Nothing new to me, by the way.

Nothing new for me.

Nothing new for me.

If I want to tell everyone, if the guerrilla army is driving you crazy, you gotta fucking imagine how tough those of us in the party are.

We've been here for years.

Anything you've been attacked, we've experienced much, much worse.

We're numb to it now.

We yawn in the face of it now.

Now we care about our party.

Now it's the party's name that we care about, not even our own name.

If we care about our own name, it's because it's downstream from the party, because indirectly it affects the party.

That's it.

The name of the party is everything.

We will pursue this to the end.

We will never stop fighting.

I will be buried six feet under the grave.

The day

That I had ceased to fight for the American Communist Party.

This is nothing to me.

This is Dharma to me.

This is the flow of time.

This is literally Aonic Dharma.

This is

This is uh the Tao.

This is simple.

This is riding the wave.

It's all just extremely mundane for me.

Also for Kyle, Kyle, what do you think?

Oh, yeah.

I mean, I've been in the communist movement officially since I was 18, so it's nothing new to me.

I've seen, just like you, I mean, we're the same age, so we've seen the rise of social media and its implications when it comes to these things.

And it's just a different battlefield.

It's the same battle, really, at the end of the day.

That's true.

We'd be fighting either way.

Zerwini, what's going on?

Our only regret.

Our only regret.

is that we would like to be fighting only for the positive right now.

Either way we're fighting.

Either way, it's the same level of intensity.

It's just that now we have to focus on things and push other things back.

This won't last forever, by the way.

But it will last as long as it needs to to ensure the victory of the American Communist Party.

Yeah, I mean we're we're constantly putting out positive content and it's they're they're detracting from the things like like the the the fact that we were down there with the truckers in New Jersey.

They detract from actual that Richie's that one of Richie's tweets is proof we have a secret discord where we're expressing our real views and that we're all actually Nazis.

They made this openly brazenly actionable claim because they think there will be no legal consequences.

Yeah.

I mean, Richie's not in the party.

He is with the UDDA and he's with the New Jersey Pier Facebook group.

I mean, that's that's it.

We we work with uh how is it they're trying to connect that to Zoltanus and whatever he's doing and I don't even fucking know what he's doing.

Well, yeah.

A guy who, by the way, the only connection to infrared is that I debated him.

And he's always had bad blood for us.

Right.

He's doing very bad things, I can tell you that.

But we have nothing to do with the guy.

We're on opposite sides of the battlefront.

It's kind of ridiculous.

Yeah, but I mean, like, they're detracting from the actual positive things that we're doing.

The actual real work that we're doing.

That is, yeah, which is ridiculous to even try and combat the idea.

I mean, the claims they were making about the truckers in New Jersey, they were trying to claim they're not even CDL drivers and they're all scabs or something ridiculous.

I mean, it's like they don't even understand working class struggles.

Yeah, I mean, they make the bosses argument for them.

They make the bosses argument for them, and then it gets thousands of likes and views and everything else.

It's ridiculous.

They're objecting to working for the interests of the monopoly financials.

Isn't it curious?

These people started out being in our community, supposedly.

Right.

Every single position they have come to adopt has been directly in order to oppose us.

They have no principles except opposing us.

So if we went and organized Starbucks baristas right now, they would condemn Starbucks baristas.

Exactly.

If we came out in defense of transgender toilets.

they would become turfs.

There is no position they can consistently maintain in a principled way, except opposing and throwing dirt on us.

Had we not organized the Dreage truckers and we organized the different truckers, they would have said the same thing.

It has nothing to do with anything we do and everything to do with the fixed goal of attacking us.

And you mean to tell me that for four years they've been doing it purely because?

They got bullied on Twitter by the gorillas.

I don't buy it.

These are feds.

These are feds.

Who the fuck does this full time except feds?

Who is sitting back and doing this full time, every minute of every hour of their day doing this, attacking us, except feds?

You tell me how somebody lives their life for four years doing this that isn't a fucking fed.

Yeah, I mean, it's completely impossible.

And they not only have the ringleaders being the feds, but then they bring in all of the gullible leftists who don't know any better.

You know, God help them.

And they bring them in.

They groom them in their cult, which I've seen, you know, I'm in your Discords, guys.

You know, they acknowledge that I have access to that.

It's their full-time job.

Exactly.

Exactly.

I mean, it's all they do.

I mean, every single hour.

I'm not legally advocating for this.

But to be completely honest, if...

So much of a headache for what?

It's gonna fail.

There's only one way to stop this.

Even that wouldn't work.

But you'd have to target me directly.

I would have to not exist anymore.

That's it.

Right.

And that's the same level of commitment across the entire second.

That would do a lot more than anything they could do.

Besides that, that's it.

For as long as I'm breathing they're not gonna get their way.

It's the truth.

Every fibre of my being is dedicated to this cause.

There's not a single breath I take that isn't dedicated to this.

By the way, anyone who attempts something, legally I have a right to self-defense.

That's why I've of course I'm not advocating it, I'm just saying how ridiculous it is.

How ridiculous it is.

They think it's gonna work.

Supposedly so much hatred, thousands supposedly hate us, supposedly thousands.

I want everyone to remember the fact that not a single one of them has the courage to confront me.

Why not?

Right.

I mean I I also find it interesting that they somehow think that they can win because they the ringleaders of this have been at it for years.

They couldn't stop uh Midwestern Marks and Infrared getting together.

They couldn't stop the actual creation of the party.

How many L's do they have to be handed before they realize this is all like futile?

Uh only somebody who is literally a federal agent can be that invested after that much defeat.

To continue going and just keep going every day, every single fucking day.

It's absurd.

All of the forces of reaction have circled around the ACP, attacking it from all sides.

They want to crush us in the cradle.

And they're going to realize how completely futile all of their efforts have been.

They're not going to succeed.

They're wasting their time.

And it's a complete shit show.

I mean, every single time they hype up that they're going to drop some big, big nuke ends up being a nothing burger.

It ends up being nothing.

And they get a bunch of likes and everything else.

But what does it do to any of our people?

What does it do to our ability to continue to succeed?

We continue.

It emboldens institutional gatekeepers to weaponize lies to scare people to associate with us.

Scare people from associating with us.

Oh, look, all this Nazis on this paper.

Nobody thinks rationally, okay, what's the connection?

They go, look, look, it's really scary.

Don't associate.

They think that sensationalism is somehow going to be an endgame strategy that will defeat us.

It's caused us roadblocks and it's caused us some issues.

But there are things that we can overcome and are proving to overcome with time.

Because if we continue to do the work and we continue to show people what we're actually about, they get curious by all of these deranged things that people say about us.

Then they go and they do the sometimes, a good portion of them go and actually look at our webpage.

They go look at the ACP main.

And they're confronted with reality.

And at that point, they have to make a decision.

Is the guy who's screaming about this outlandish claim, which doesn't even make any sense and there's no actual rhyme or reason to it, and he made a completely counterclaim a week ago, is that the truth?

Or is it, you know, the truth I can verify with my own eyes from the pictures of the work that they're doing on the ground?

If people just operated with a with a modicum of common sense, and I think a lot of people do, they see that it's all bullshit.

Kyle, I remember when we were on the ground that morning with the huge ch chunk of the New York and New Jersey chapters.

And holy fuck, if you guys actually just get out there and do the work, you'll fucking see what they're trying to stop.

This is what they're trying to fucking stop.

It's literally that simple.

All this, just to make you discouraged from doing positive work, just to discourage you from having the confidence to get shit done.

Confidence, remember.

They want you to sit depressed on your couch or in bed thinking it's all futile.

And that's the goal.

Exactly.

And, you know, we go out there and every single trucker, every guy we're talking to, loves it.

They love it.

They're begging uh they're begging for unions out there.

They're begging for representation.

They're hired

Go ahead, Kyle.

Advocating for them on their behalf and actually talking to them.

Yeah, sorry, I keep getting phone calls.

But they're inspired by what we're doing.

They're inspired that we're out there and that we're going to bat for them.

And they love it.

And they're getting plugged in and they're getting organized.

So it's just, it's, it's, they can't stop it.

When we go out and do the work, the people, the average American, loves it.

They want more of it.

So

They're trying to, as you put it, like the gatekeep.

They're trying to spoil our reputation.

They're trying to crush us in the cradle.

We break through that, and the sky is the limit.

It's over for them.

They have nothing left.

Because they have failed for decades with their rhetoric to actually get the working class people on their side in any meaningful capacity, whether they be feds, the all-time high hatred of the state, hatred of the institutions of the state, or whether they be these crazy leftists who have been in this bubble.

They have never made a penetration into the working class of this country, and they never will.

You want to know something?

Everyone is always so confused why I care.

I'll tell you the truth.

This is even to the haters that are

Supposedly leftist.

Not to sound cringe, but it's the god honest fucking truth and it's the only thing that's gonna make sense, if you wanna understand why we care so much.

I genuinely

I genuinely fucking care about these people.

As much as I struggle, as much as I want to hate, as much as I want to hate them, as much as I want to destroy them.

The thing, if anything, that bothers me is that I'm struggling to understand them because I genuinely do care.

I care about the people of this country in general.

And I care about all those that have come to be inspired by Marxism.

and by communism.

Because that's my whole life and it's everything that I am.

It pains me the idea that there's even a single person out there who genuinely, genuinely and sincerely is inspired by the Communist tradition and by the ideas of Marxism.

and has been so misled.

And has had their mind so warped.

That for some reason they are compelled by hatred toward our party and trying to bring us down more than they are, positively making a contribution to that history and that tradition.

That genuinely bothers me because I can't relate to it.

I don't even know where they're coming from.

I don't understand it.

I can't even fathom how fucking miserable you have to be to be in that state of mind.

To not look at the moment we are in world history and say, We communists need to stand up and do something.

How have you gotten to be so miserable

How have you given up and taken such a such a toxic and poisonous black pill that you have dedicated your existence to tearing us down who are trying, who are human and therefore imperfect, but are trying with every fiber of our being, we're trying.

How have you taken such a defeatist black pill?

That you are motivated to get up in the morning and hate and attack us.

While simultaneously maintaining the pretence of being inspired by Marxism.

in contradiction to the trends of society and the overall

Ideology of the hegemony

I don't fucking get it.

And then I learn.

I learn the truth that Kyle already knows.

Therefore, it doesn't bother him.

That these people were only ever interested in Marxism and in left-wing ideas because they were.

They have been brought up in institutionalized settings that incentivize that.

And they are socially incentivized.

toward the adoption of these ideas.

And therefore for them, it's not actually about the principles or the history or the cause and its inspiration to the human soul.

It's maintaining their standing within various different communities and institutions.

And that they're gatekeepers.

Trying to prevent us from shaking things up.

I just wish these wicked, wicked people would repent and realize what they're fucking doing.

They are not committed to the tradition of c of Marxism-Leninism, they are not committed to the history of Communism.

They are Pharisees.

And gatekeepers.

Who are terrified of the possibility that we are going to shake things up for their exclusive, institutionalized and gate-kept communities?

Go ahead, Kyle.

Exactly.

No, exactly.

I couldn't agree more.

And that's why I wanted to bring up the trucking thing so much, because it's literally the bare bones of what a Communist Party needs to be doing, which is talking directly to the working class of the country and organizing them for their benefit.

And they find somehow in their warped, their warped perception of these things.

And I'm not just talking about, you know, the long-term haters.

I'm talking about the people within that orbit who exist purely just at this point now to tear us down, but who genuinely believe that they are the real Marxists.

It's absurd on its face.

How can you possibly go along with the idea that this is a bad thing?

And actively discourage truckers from being organized?

I mean, it's disgusting.

It's disgusting on the market.

By the way, is anyone requesting?

We have, well, the guy who wants to talk about BlackRock, who's been requested for a while, and then we have one other person who is requesting.

Would you like me to bring them up?

Sure.

All right.

Abdul, go ahead.

Yeah, can you hear me?

Yeah.

So I have a question.

Um why did you run away from me?

Um, you're here now, so I say what you want to say.

I don't know.

No, why did you?

I don't know.

Why did you?

As you know, and Jackson knows,

You invited me to a Oh, you're the guy in r uh you're the f g the Discord guy who's in Russia.

We do an IRL stream and then we debate.

Uh I don't know.

We were it was I was so busy, really, I I was.

Uh, take off the undefeated t uh tanky thing from your bio then.

I took your honor.

All right.

Alright man.

Um next time we're in Russia, we'll have for the community, we'll do it for the community, we'll have the IRL.

I actually had a like an antique book from Stalin for you.

We're we're coming in the coming months, we're gonna be there, so don't worry.

We'll we'll we'll all we'll have the IRL, we'll do it for the community.

Sounds good.

Okay, yep, bye.

So

That's a f funny guy in our Discord.

But um

Yeah, um

There is also a community legend.

Who um

Very old lore, very powerful lore.

Um legend from our community who is in Lebanon.

And um we were gonna meet up with them as well, but we just didn't have time.

That's very I regret that a lot 'cause I don't know if I'm gonna be able to go to Lebanon again.

Yeah.

The the one and only.

Yeah.

There was no time.

Um

But uh yeah.

No, as we were saying, Kyle, it's um

Yeah, it's it's um it's very unfortunate.

It's unfortunate.

I don't get it though.

No, I I I think there's a deep pathology involved.

I mean it's so personal for them.

It's so fucking personal.

Right.

And uh I that makes me very sad.

Because I wish they would understand, look, if it's personal for you,

Haas's only personality, that's me.

Is this cause?

Anything else is not relevant to anyone.

So...

Why take it personally?

Don't you know that Haas which is me, by the way, don't you know that Haas sees all mankind as equal?

No one is better or worse, no one is superior or inferior,

Everyone lives by the same grace and the same beneficence and mercy.

Stop trying to prove yourself and salvage your ego because you fought with the gorillas.

Stop trying to salvage your standing.

Stop trying to defend yourself.

in my midst.

Stop trying to prove yourself to me.

I already forgive you.

And I see everyone is equal.

I have hatred for no one.

Literally no one.

Even Kyle doesn't have hatred for anyone.

He just

understands trash needs to be taken out.

But it's not hatred, right, Kyle?

It's not hatred.

No, I mean it's uh it's not hatred.

I I I don't it's it's emotions are are insignificant in that capacity.

I mean if anything I I I feel pity.

It's a sad situation that these people find themselves in.

And I I struggle to understand

you know, the um the the the the just complete uh lack of purpose you have to have in life to feel subjugated to that position.

No hatred.

I think Bree is a miserable person.

I feel bad for them big time.

I think Danny Shaw is a cointel pro fed, to be fair.

I think he's a fed.

I think Brie is a very sad person.

I think b I you know when I think of Bree, I think Bree is crying all the time.

I honestly, I think Bree is like sitting by the window in the pouring rain and she's just crying.

She just goes to bed depressed.

And then she wakes up and anger is the only thing that makes her feel l alive.

And she thinks herself as a victim.

Little does she know that all of this is a is a consequence of her

Unjust aggression and malice and hostility

Against us.

She thinks she's gonna get her revenge by destroying us.

If you're purely motivated by revenge, dig two graves.

That's what they say.

If it was me versus Bree and she just wants revenge against me personally, maybe.

Maybe she could take me down, she could take herself down, dig two graves.

The problem with Bree and all these other people motivated by revenge is that you're not just targeting another individual.

You're an individual who's targeting a historical principle.

You are you are acting in vain.

You may as well fight a hurricane or a typhoon or a tsunami.

You may as well fight a fucking earthquake or a tornado.

You may as well individually fight.

The very might of the heavens themselves.

You're not fighting Haas or Kyle or any of these other personalities who you want to bring down.

You're fighting a principle of history, which is communism itself.

You're fighting the principle of a communist party, a collective, which is far more, far greater than the sum of its parts.

That is in vain.

That is an endeavor which will always be in vain.

You are motivated by something personal.

We are motivated by something impersonal.

That's a very simple distinction.

Yeah, I mean, it was always interesting seeing Bree's development into, you know, this position that they've now gone with publicly.

Because it was always motivated by petty individualist slights that were perceived to be against them that had nothing to do with them.

It was always this centering of the self and the individual and antagonism to the collective.

That's how the entire friction arose in the first place.

While she was in the party, she was attacking leadership publicly on Twitter, personally, individually, individually always, and from an individual perspective.

But she may have been compromised.

That's why maybe she's so sad.

You see.

She she had those ties with that Black Hammer guy.

Right?

Yeah, she did.

I'm not sure that it was I don't think I'm I'm not sure to that but uh assuming that that's not the case it always came from this individualist assertion that I am always right and what is subjective to me it must be forwarded and it must go at the expense of all others by the way as far as what's coming

The public has the right to know.

Because if this was just personal, I would have quit a long time ago and said, look, you can feel like you want.

I don't care.

We have to defend our party.

Bree is not going to like what's coming, Danny won't, neither will the groomers and the FBI inform there none of them are gonna like what's coming.

None of 'em are gonna like

what's about to drop.

Yeah, it's it's not even solely about defending the party.

Of course that's the primary concern, but it's also about defending the public in some sense.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

It's about defending the public.

Defending the party and the public.

And the truth, of course.

And they're gonna act like victims.

But all we are doing is going band for band, always.

And that's the new protocol, by the way.

We go band for band.

Because we have so much that we don't share to the public.

So much.

They now try to threaten us.

With you know.

I don't even want to repeat the word, it's such a bad word.

Boxing.

And that is unwise.

That is very unwise.

Very much unwise.

There's another request from this um Abdul and oh well they just derequested, so Abdul and the uh Black Rock guy.

Yeah, there was a third for a second.

Then they decided not to.

But, I mean, and they've gone beyond just uh threatening to release people's information and releasing people's information in general, which they've already done.

I mean, they've released my address, for example.

Um they've also gone into actual making uh assertions that, you know, calling for members' death and and and and actually uh calling for physical violence against members of the party.

I sometimes I pity it.

I pity them.

But what's coming is coming.

Pity cannot get in the way of what must be done, and that's the reality.

If they unilaterally cease and desist between now and then and communicate to us.

That they're done.

They they stop the bullshit.

They retract all the bullshit.

Yeah.

We'd be happy to go our go our own way, but I doubt that's gonna happen, so we're just gonna move forward doing what we're gonna do.

And that's why no one's a victim here.

You understand?

No one's a victim.

They chose to go down this path.

You want war with us?

Don't choose war with people who kind of enjoy it.

I hate saying that.

Don't choose war.

With someone.

Whose entire existence

whose entire lineage

Is built for war.

Don't choose war with a man who comes from mountain people whose whole existence has been war.

Don't choose war with men for whom it comes naturally.

This is not a state of exception for me, this is a norm.

Additionally, the party's existence is to combat the class war in favor of the working class.

I mean, our entire organization is based on the concept of war in one way, shape, or otherwise.

We have such great war.

We expect and are ready to fight.

The class war, you just mentioned it.

Why would you make yourself the target?

Why would you try to get in our way and make yourself the target?

I don't get it.

You think you're going to deter us?

What do you think is going to happen?

I'm just so curious about.

Sometimes I'm curious, like, what do they think will happen?

What do they think will be the outcome?

How do they think it's going to end?

No matter what, it won't end well for them, by the way.

Even if it didn't end well for us.

But maybe that's what maybe it already has ended poorly for them, because their life sucks.

They have no motivation.

They just want to drag us down to be like them.

So what's the point in defeating them?

Well

They have nothing to lose, maybe?

We'll see.

We'll see about that.

We'll see if they have nothing to lose.

Because I kind of doubt that.

Uh we have a new requester.

Should I bring him up?

Who is it?

Sure.

Go ahead, Auxiliary.

Hello, this is an alt.

Just wanted to reach out in good faith.

more known um my other account, Bolshevik Noir.

And

Uh

I just wanted to keep it.

I don't wanna I don't wanna hear this shit.

I don't wanna

I don't wanna there's so many alts, I don't fucking need to keep track of all this shit.

Well, I find it funny that the ACP leaks account right now is still posting and listening to the stream, but um I'm sorry, the space but not coming in to actually held any debates.

They'd have to figure out which person is going to become the public face of ACP leaks, because there's many.

Yeah, the main ones will defin none of them will ever fucking show their voice.

The whole reason they create these uh accounts like ACP Leagues is for the purpose of trying in vain to shield themselves from, you know, litigation.

Uh they're attempt attempting some maskarovka, you know, and uh it's ridiculous.

I mean they they they genuinely think that they're untouchable so long as they use uh some fake account that they've created, you know.

It's it's uh s it's very stupid.

I'm going to check what they're saying.

They're saying, okay, here's the secret Discord that they claimed is run by ACP, by the way.

So let's look at what this Discord is.

Here it is.

What is this?

A guy named.

Comrade with Hebrew

Imagine me changing my name

Mid Eastern we want to be Mid Eastern Marks.

What who is this?

So, uh before anything, I don't fucking know who this is.

I don't know what this is.

How is it that the forg forget about

Shelve ACP for a moment.

How does infrared how do any of us run any of this?

If we don't even fucking know about it.

How does ACP run it?

ACP doesn't even have a fucking Discord.

Okay?

This is the same thing when Jason Unruh said there was a Haz chat.

And he they made up those screenshots saying oh we're gonna coordinate against Jason I'm like I don't even know what the fuck this is I I just find it ironic that we don't organize on Discord.

I'm even looking at the screenshots they shared, I can't even find any Nazi content.

Where's the Nazi content they're talking about?

Where they express their true Nazi views?

Right.

Am I retarded for even responding to this?

Am I retarded for even saying anything about it instead of handling it in court where it needs to be handled?

Because this is crazy.

I mean, we're not going to do this forever.

It's going to be handled in court.

But does anyone actually believe this?

Is what I'm really curious about.

That's all I want to know.

Is there a single person in the world who believes this?

They went from ACP runs a secret Nazi Discord.

We have no discords, by the way.

It's a directly actionable defamatory claim.

The ACP does not run any Discords.

Infrared has one Discord.

Midwestern Marx has a Discord.

Now they shared this claiming it's a secret Nazi Discord.

I can't see anything.

That has anything to do with myself or Midwestern Marks or anyone in the leadership of ACP.

This is the first time I've even fucking seen it.

I don't even see any Nazi content in there.

What are they talking about?

They made the directionally actionable claim that we are a rebrand of a Nazi party.

Kyle

I mean or Kayla, I mean I'm not gonna

Kayla, in your opinion, you know, credentials aside,

Do you think that's just a directly actionable claim to make, saying that we're a rebrand of Zoltanius' party?

Absolutely.

When there's not a single one of the people who are responsible for reconstituting the CPUSA into ACP.

That had any ties to Zoltanus at all or anything he's ever done or any of his organiz whatever the fuck they're doing.

Look, I mean, let them continue to dig themselves into a deeper hole.

But isn't that like a slam dunk?

Just direct defamation?

Yes, that is absolutely defamation with malicious intent.

I mean, it's clear as day.

We're saving all this information and we're going to have a field day with them in court.

So they're just digging themselves in a deeper hole.

They're just giving us more ammunition as they're going more and more, you know, unhinged and deranged because nothing is sticking.

Their lies just fall apart.

So they're making even more grandiose lies.

It makes it easier for us to do our job.

So let them go ahead and do it.

Yeah.

Yeah, I I also was trying to point out, we don't organize on Discord, but I've already verified directly and they've acknowledged that fact, that they do organize on Discord.

It's just ridiculous.

With minors, by the way.

With minors, and then they appoint the guy who is defending his sale of pedophilic material to children.

They make him in charge of vetting.

I mean the the shit writes itself.

I mean, they they couldn't make themselves more stupid and just, you know, insidious to the average person.

They have admitted that they've been confronted with the fact that it's a lie and they doubled down.

That's all we really needed.

That's all we really needed.

It also shows they have very low impulse control.

They're listening to the stream probably on an alt, one of their thousands of alts, because they have to be.

Request to speak.

Right, exactly.

And instead of coming up and talking business and actually confronting us, they have low impulse control and they have to hide and then they post through ACP leaks some shit in real time while we're doing the space because they have no ability to actually strategize, coordinate, or anything.

It's pathetic.

I mean, it's truly pathetic.

I mean, this is the best they have to offer.

Where is the fabled big nukes?

Where are they?

Where are they?

What do they supposedly have that's so big?

Where is it?

There's nothing.

They have to.

Hold on, hold on.

Apparently, the person.

Okay, apparently, so it was a different username.

How the fuck should I know who that is?

Apparently, it's Banana who runs this Discord.

I don't know what this Discord is.

I don't see any evidence of Nazi content in it, by the way.

And that's just Banana.

We know who Banana is.

So what is the evidence this where what is the connection to Zoltanus?

What is the connection to all these other things he's saying and Nazis?

But guys, it's Banana.

See, he's saying I'm lying that I don't recognize that profile picture in a I know who Banana is.

I don't fucking know what that username is because I'm not familiar with Banana running under that fucking username.

Banana is an IGG guy.

He's not even in ACP though.

Right, Kyle?

He's not in, right?

He was rejected from cadre status multiple times.

Right, so he's not in.

I mean, not that he's like bad or anything.

He's not like a Nazi.

I mean, he's not bad.

He's not a Zionist.

He's not a Nazi.

I think he has a Jewish background.

I could be wrong.

I don't fucking know.

I mean, not that that would matter, but like, how is he a fucking Nazi or a Zionist or a.

What does he say?

He said.

He said it's a Jewish nationalist.

How okay, what?

I don't even know what that is.

He he's quoting a guy talking about flora and fauna in Colombia in the post-Colombian rea what does this have to do with Zionism?

I think he was just drinking.

Bro is talking about plants.

This is Nazism.

Like.

What are they on, dude?

Hold on.

They're talking.

Banana was getting people to debate some Zionists, and they're saying that therefore Banana is a Zionist because he's Jewish.

What?

Yeah, well.

We don't even know.

What is.

Do they even believe this or what?

No, they don't.

If a Jew debates Zionism, he's a Nazi apparently, or a Zionist, I don't even know what that is.

In some foreign l I think it was Hebrew, comrade something.

They go, This is a I didn't even know who the fuck that was.

Then they they click on their username and it says banana.

I said, Okay, I know who banana is.

But

What's the big reveal here?

Where's the secret Nazism?

Where's the evidence I have any connection to it?

What is this isn't the first time me seeing this?

Imagine if they came here and confronted me and said, Hawes, we've got you, look at this.

Where's the fucking evidence this has anything to do with our party or anything?

Moreover, what is even so, like what is the secret I d they're talking about flora and fauna in Colombia?

Right.

I guess Comrade Banana he was on the plenary committee somehow.

You know, like uh how does this link?

Is this evidence that they made that it's a rebrand?

Is this evidence that we're a rebrand of a Nazi party, that Banana has a discord where he talks about flora and fauna that I don't even fucking know about?

Look, the feds aren't uh they're not getting their money's worth.

This is really pathetic.

I think Doach should investigate, frankly.

The discretionary's funding at the uh FBI has gone off the rails.

I mean, it makes it very helpful for our litigation that they knowingly made false statements.

I mean, just the the convolutedness of this all.

And it really does strengthen our defamation with malicious intent claims.

So it's it's really helpful for us, but you know, it is.

No, no, no.

Let the let them continue to act like they don't that they oh, we just thought we just thought well we we thought that banana was Haas We thought that banana was in the plenary committee or the polit bureau or we thought we thought it was a Nazi server because Because they're talking about flora and fauna or we thought let them make that argument let them make that argument It would be a great argument for us because it's easily verifiable facts they can't like these are all public things that people know that this is not the case that the you know the leadership is a publicly known thing they know it they're intimately familiar they they point out no we didn't know we didn't know really they're gonna i guarantee you in court i guarantee to you in the coming months even if it takes years there's gonna be records of the litigation where their attorney on their behalf my client didn't know they really didn't know they really didn't know i guarantee you that's gonna be their fucking defense we didn't know it was a lie we really honest we didn't know everyone can fucking see we're telling you it's a lie we're giving you all of the reasoning necessary for you to understand that you're lying and you're still doing it it's malicious intent is so fucking clear doesn't even need to be proven we have evidence of the malicious intent on record

Anyway, I think that would have to be a public defender because I don't know any attorney who would be willing to even stake the claim of their reputation to defend this in court because it's such an open and shut case.

But does anyone actually believe it?

Is there anyone who would actually stake their reputation in defense of this claim?

Just why?

Well, they can sit on they can sit with the rest of the defendants.

Do they think this is gonna deter us from dropping what's gonna drop soon, or what?

No, uh they they they don't have a rhyme or reason.

Like I said, this is low impulse control.

This is literally, you know, gooner brain bullshit.

Their m mental faculties are clearly not up to cut.

Look at their followers.

Look at this.

Verified followers.

Ryan Morrow from Newsmax.

Um they have all of these actual Zionists.

Uh Ustav S, congressional briefer, counterterrorism, OSINT, founder of the pro Trump HFAP PAC, incredible.

Mike Pellegrino, of course.

Isn't it incredible?

Isn't it incredible that they're

This is who they're working with in practice?

Michael Nickens anti communist, anti-corporatism, free market capitalist MAGA.

Wow But they're attacking us for supposedly being MAGA.

Uh because uh we're MAGA communists.

I mean, it's fair to say we're you can associate Maga with us, that's fair.

Not with ACP necessarily, but with infrared, sure.

We pioneered manga communism.

But if that's the hill you're claiming to die on, that's why you're attacking us.

Look at the people following you.

It's all the fucking Zionists that are after Jackson, me, and Chris for attending Nisralla's funeral.

So the hypocrisy is fascinating.

But am I retarded for focusing on this in any capacity at all?

That's the real question.

I think that the evidence really will do the uh heavy lifting, uh which should be coming soon.

And as they come after lower level rank and file members, I mean the threshold.

Do they not understand how court procedure works?

They don't think it's gonna happen.

That's what it is.

They don't think it they know they're guilty, definitely.

They know that they would have no fucking standing.

But they genuinely w have convinced and hyped themselves up with this illusion that we're not gonna fucking go through with it.

Which is why I cannot wait until the look on their face dawns upon them that we actually are.

That is all I need.

Incompetent they are.

That's all I fucking understanding how.

They think it's not happening perfect.

Perfect.

Good luck.

Good luck.

Good luck, we'll see.

Dale Gribble has requested

Bring them up.

Failure Life.

You gotta unmute yourself, guy.

Okay.

Hello.

I I uh sorry, I just read the lea I just read their leaks and it's kinda funny since I'm actually on the same server as Banana and

It's it seems rather odd because it seems like what he's trying to do is effectively

At least from the understanding I'm getting is trying to separate the idea of Zionism, the ideas of Zionism from Judaism.

At least from

Some of the at least enough.

That's all very clear.

I love how they're constantly dropping Zoltanius's real name to make it seem like, oh, this is definite they did the same shit at Emery.

They're like when well the the the CIA, whatever fucking

anarchists that were there that printed Johnny's lies, 'cause Johnny's the one who pioneers like this guy Shandon Sandon, whatever the fuck.

Like this somehow just because you say his real name, it that means it's associated with us in any fucking way at all.

By the way, Alex Dillard is our website guy since when?

I was I actually see even I'm Vic I was thinking oh d is he not working on our website somehow?

Where did that even come from?

Where did that even fucking come from?

I don't even know if that guy's Cadre.

I I I you know, it's also interesting that you just pointed out there's all these, you know, Zionist accounts following ACP leaks, and they're attacking a discord group where a Jewish guy is trying to say, Hey, you know, Zionism isn't about Judaism and somehow this is n this is a Nazi server or something.

Like, is that not just the most bare bones, basic uh Zionist talking point?

What I don't understand is how is it they go from

Apparently they find someone in the party.

Who's new Zoltan?

I don't even fucking know.

That's the creepy thing.

I don't even know what the fuck they're talking about.

And then they go, the whole party is a rebrand of Zoltanus' organization.

What how do you get from A to B?

What connection to Zoltanus does anyone who's in any position of leadership within our party have, or have ever had?

I'm sure they're lying about Alex too, by the way.

He's just not here to defend himself.

I'm sure they're fucking lying about him.

So maybe he'll wanna be roped and l I don't fucking know.

That's the thing.

I don't fucking know his specific case.

I just know about what the American Communist Party is.

It's it's weird also because Sultanius is somebody who directly opposes us.

So he's a fucking op yeah like why are we being associated with our own fucking ops?

This is like if somebody there's more relations ACP has to fucking Andrew Saturn than that guy.

That guy Andrew

Was in the infrared community before.

Not Zoltanus, so the guy behind the leaks account, by the way, it is Andrew.

Spoiler.

He has more of a tangible connection to the ACP through infrared than anything Sultanous.

You go, you guys didn't know that?

It's him.

I thought everyone was clear about that.

Absolutely it's him.

You know what's so fucking stupid?

Bree is the one who's uh.

One of the people that mediate the leaks on Shaw's behalf.

All you have to do is show a picture of Bree at our like, look, connect the dots.

Bree is literally has a direct connection to our party.

Does is that immaterial?

If we're supposedly s Nazis and anyone who 'cause the logic is anyone who associates with us is a Nazi, right?

So the people behind this very same account that's attacking us, using the same logic, they are Nazis by association.

How fucking stupid is this logic?

Uh

It shit is so boring.

Yeah.

Dale, do you have anything else to add?

Uh not too much.

I mainly want to take him on to just give some context and since I kind of know banana just try to give his side of the story.

I'm always so creeped out by these fucking feds because they're always like they know so much about these fucking Nazis.

Kyle, how much do I fucking know about Zoltanis besides the fact that I fucking debated him once and he's an op.

He doesn't like us.

You think I keep up with all this fucking lore on these Nazis or whatever?

And I have all these So these creepy crawly fucking cockroaches They're always like it's like it's like almost like they're fucking sharing

Something really disgusting.

Like, what is this?

They're like, oh, look at all these look at all these different fucking things you've never seen in your life and know nothing about.

And this is your party is a rebrand of this.

Well, yeah, I mean, it's my job to have to keep up with these individuals, and, you know, I do.

And that's also why I know, just on its face, it's ridiculous, because I know what Shandon Simpson's up to.

I know what fucking, you know, all these individuals are up to.

And it's ridiculous.

It's ridiculous what they propose.

They don't even know enough to know.

All I know is he's an op.

He's a massive op.

And he's doing all types of crazy shit.

It's directly against us.

And he's aligned with people who are directly against us.

From the 2010s under Trump's first term.

with all these creepy, weird, glowy shit that only feds themselves fucking know about.

That they're constantly trying to like associate with me or the party or infrared,

And I, it just creeps me the fuck out.

I literally see it this if you just see like a spider on your floor randomly, it's the same shit.

Weird, creepy fucks.

telling on themselves about how much they're into this dark criminal world of creepy fucks.

God forbid I debate a guy twice or once, I don't fucking know.

And then he becomes an op who fucking hates me and I know nothing else about him.

Because you know why?

Because I don't find Nazism interesting.

Neo-Nazism.

It's not interesting to me.

There's nothing about it that's interesting to me.

Because the American neo-Nazi movement is fundamentally uninteresting.

It is just criminals who do crystal meth.

What else?

Kyle, what else?

They do meth and then what else?

And fentanyl.

What else?

Well, they have good relationships with certain Ukrainian battalions.

We know all the only part.

That's the only part worth investigating, because there's something tangible there.

But what is the significance of American?

Yeah.

Just criminals.

Just lumpin' criminals.

Exactly.

Literal human scum.

And they're feds.

All feds.

Am I wrong?

Right.

Well, no, I mean, they're literally, I can say in some instances, one degree of separation from actual federal agents, verifiably.

Feel like fucking

I feel like the, you know, people say we're feds.

I feel like David Lynch in Twin Peaks, his character, what is it?

Commissioner Gordon?

Not Gordon.

What's David Lynch's name in Twin Peaks?

What is it again?

Director Director what?

Someone in chat, quick.

Director Gordon, I feel like him when he sees that weird thing, he's like, What the hell?

In Twin Peaks the Return.

I'm like, What is this?

I don't, you know, Gordon Cole is aware about a he knows there's a lot of weird shit that happens.

But he doesn't focus on it.

He's like, this is a good cup of coffee, or this is this nice he's smiling, he's having a good day.

You only should know about this shit if you really fucking have to, okay?

Anyone who spends their time

You know, embarking upon this dark world and being basking in this dark world.

You're a fucking freak in my eyes.

And you are that you are yourself.

You are yourself part of that world.

You fed fucking glowy weirdo.

Yeah.

I I get continuously disgusted.

It's the least uh appealing asp uh, you know, part of my job having to What is this shit?

See how these people are.

I yeah God.

I mean yeah, I mean it's disturbing to even have to see from a distance.

Literally, you know, demonic type shit.

They they like they're super into the fucking occult and all this crazy shit.

It's it's

objectively disgusting.

Yeah.

Anyway guys, I think we're gonna wrap it up here.

We've got some stuff to work on.

And uh prepare.

So we'll see you guys when we gotta see ya.

And um

Stay vigilant, continue fighting the disinformation, and stay on the lookout.

Um

Anyway.

See you all later.

Goodbye.

Your orders are to stay on your toes and get ready for orders because we're in the state of war.

So get ready.

Uh all right.

Anything else I gotta quickly talk about?

Um

No, I think that's it.

Alright guys.

We're gonna sign off.

See y'all next time.