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Juzon, what's going on, brother?

ACP Shogun. What's going on, brother? I appreciate you.

All right, guys, we are going to get into our weekly confront the chairman stream.

And, well, what else?

Well, we have some very interesting things that are dropping very soon. I can't give you the exact time. It will be interesting timing. And it's going to put a lot of the things, the recent attacks against us into perspective.

Really, it will. It really will put it into perspective.

I want you guys to be aware that the enemy has now been falsely led to believe that we are no longer pursuing litigation.

Something they're going to realize is a very, very poor misjudgment on their part within the next month or two.

But they are resorting to open and brazen defamation now, just open and brazen defamation, just

outright lies.

Outright lies.

They've been trying to be a little bit careful in the past few months because of the

legal consequences that they've been faced with.

Now they are resorting to open defamation. They're just straight up lying, like straight up openly,

just lying about us. You guys need to be on the lookout. You need to be there. I don't care how many alts you have to make to defend the truth because we have to defend our party legally. We have to defend our rights. And there's laws about this for a reason. You know, there's precedent and civil court about things like this for a reason.

Because it's unfair for people to be able to just tell open lies about us, which in real

life are hurting our reputation and institutions, and because you'll go to a university and

they'll print out tweets of this person making a claim about us.

And that's what we have to deal with sometimes.

At Emory, they were printing out, ACP wasn't formed at that time.

But we have so much, we know that they use these lies in institutional settings to block our party,

to attack us, to slander us.

And you guys need to be very, very aggressive in confronting defamation and lies about the party,

especially the party, especially the party.

Okay?

There's a market for lies about our party.

The enemy knows that.

And they think there's going to be no legal consequences.

They think that we're afraid of discovery because they think that we're doing

something illegal, which we're not. But for the record, even if we were, I wouldn't be scared

of discovery anyway. I am fully willing to pursue whatever consequences arise from defending our party's honor. Because honor to me

is everything. I was at Sayyid Nasrallah's funeral with the full expectation that I might die. I will

not quit. There is nothing that will obstruct my mission to defend the honor of this party.

Nothing.

There is nothing I won't do.

I don't have fear of anything.

I don't know what these people think they're going to accomplish, as if I'm just going to give up one day.

The day that I give up will not, that will not be a day, that will not be a day on God's green earth that anyone in their

own lifetime will be able to experience.

I don't know what they think.

I mean,

you have to really imagine everything I would do before I would even consider the possibility of quitting.

And these people would really realize it would dawn upon them, that everything they're doing is in vain.

And I've been saying this.

And they won't listen, and that's okay.

That's okay.

But I don't know what their goal is. I don't know what their goal is

I don't know what the goal is

you know

you think I'm going to quit now

or it's just gonna we're going to pack it up

or we're going to stop

we are pursuing this

legally absolutely full steam ahead our whole legal We are pursuing this legally, absolutely.

Full steam ahead.

Our whole legal team has been working overtime for weeks and weeks.

The only reason it's been taking long is because there are multiple parties involved that we're going to be filing suit against

and

there are also multiple different attorneys we're working with and contracting with

and sorting that out has been

the biggest part of it.

But that is all wrapping up.

And we're going to go through with this.

We really have nothing to fear.

We don't care about what the consequences as far as we're concerned are going to be for this, all that matters for us is defending our party's honor. Even if I was doing something illegal that would

land me in jail, which is not true, by the way, it would be enough for me to set the precedent for defending the honor of our party against

lies. Even if I had to go to prison for the rest of my life, someone else would take my place as

chairman of the American Communist Party, a party that will defend its rights against defamation,

against libel.

So let me be absolutely clear about that.

The enemy somehow, for some reason at this point, thinks I fear something.

What do I fear? What do I fear? Having literally put my life on the line several times, what do I fear?

It doesn't need to be proven that I don't fear anything in pursuit of the defense of the American Communist Party.

I literally have no fear of anything.

Only God.

Anyway. anyway let's um let's start the space, confront the chairman's space.

Again, with so many attacks against us all the time, you'd think that this would be so, so damning that if you were to confront me with it,

I would somehow be shocked. I wouldn't be able, oh, what am I going to? Oh, I don't know. I don't know.

But, you know, every time I bring one of these people on to explain very specific lies they're telling about us, I always get some story of, well, look, everything started when I was in the Discord and I had a fight with someone and the mod banned me.

What does that have to do with the fucking lies you're telling?

You know? It's almost like people have this idea that if you disagree

with us about something

or if you get into a fight

in the discord or you have some

parisocial bullshit

that somehow justifies

you telling lies

all of the other lies

they say about us are now justified

because it's negative

and they also have negative feelings

about us so all negative feelings about us.

So all negative feelings evoked about our party are somehow justified

because they're your way of articulating your very specific, very specific grievance.

Every time I brought a hater on, they go, look, I don't care about all that.

I just disagree with you about, you know, your views about the national question in Ecuador.

And it's like, but you can have that disagreement that's fine.

But that doesn't justify you throwing all principles out of the window.

And then, you know, identifying immediately with every piece of bullshit that's thrown against us and spreading bullshit about us yourself.

Okay.

Just because we disagree with you about the national question in Ecuador doesn't give you the fucking right to just willy-nilly say

whatever the fuck you want about us without consequences.

You know, just because you disagree with us about the circumstances of the Sino-Albanian split doesn't fucking justify you.

It doesn't somehow automatically make it true that we have a different position than you on the Sino Albanian split.

So now this automatically means that we're all murderers, we're all evil, we've done every

crime in the world, we're doing all the drugs, we're committing all the crimes, we've done all

these horrible fucking things, we're so evil, we're the, we're the worst

people in the fucking world, we've genocided a million, committed so many, like, those are

completely separate fucking things. The only thing that any of it has in common is that they evoke and stir negative feelings,

okay? Not all of these negative feelings are caused by the same thing, so qualitatively stop

treating them the same fucking way. Stand on business as far as what your specific problem is and leave it at that.

Hello?

Go ahead, meet yourself how are doing hogs

I'm good

first time long time buddy

what's that

first time long time

uh sure okay I think I think I'm What's that? First time, long time. Sure.

Okay.

I think I'm catching up to you in media rest here.

You were just talking about people lying on you.

Yeah, on the party.

You know, I used to follow Johnny Socialism.

And I actually kind of thought I was, I'm like an ex-hipster. I used to follow Johnny socialism.

And I actually kind of thought I was, I'm like an ex-hipster.

I had like a chubby hipster wife with tattoos.

And so I had like a lot of brotherhood with him. But I really disagreed with how he disagreed with you because he would just

latch on to everything like he'd been saying. And when Danny Shaw was saying that you guys

were like bringing weapons to Haiti, I said, man, if you want to bring Hans down, don't make him

sound like a super spy. Well, look, I mean, that person was a member of our community.

A lot of people forget that.

He was a member of our community.

He's in my DMs with gorillas and sons.

And things went south on some very specific issues.

And he had bad experiences with the community and then that somehow let him down a path of trying to docks me failing but still trying

the intention is what counts just because of that that, by the way, nothing else.

Because of this, I don't know,

it was the barista thing and then

it was, uh, it was

some other, I don't even remember.

It was so nebulous as far as

the reaction it provoked.

And then now, he has become famous

as a prolific liar about us

in our party,

so much so that we've been forced

to take legal action about it.

But he is not even...

How legal is that legal action, though?

Because I, I've heard that you are sending out C&Ds that you don't have like,

are you going to follow through on the C&Ds?

We are going to follow through on the ones that we consider to have done the most amount of harm to our reputation and we're contained the most prolific and brazen lies. So those are the ones that we're going to follow through on. Then once we get the precedent on those, we're going to pursue all of them. But we need to get the precedent first. We need it legally documented that there is a widespread culture of lying about us

just so, because the first one we do

is going to be what sets the precedent.

Once we get that,

we're basically going to go on the offensive

against every single person we've ever sent one.

That's good, yeah, you can't let them call your bluff.

And you know...

You'll see in a matter of months, okay,

if not less.

All right.

We expect it to take maybe

years.

We don't know.

But, Haas, I want to debate you.

Sure.

Because, you know, it's been too much damage control.

Hasn't it been too much damage control?

It's not damage control.

It's defending the truth amidst libel and defamation, which we have to do right now before, because the courts is a much slower

process, and we're here and now. So that's why we're doing both, okay? It's not damage control. If I,

if I say that matthew w knight um you know raped dozens of people

you know i think you would maybe be interested in correcting the record, right?

I wouldn't. No, I wouldn't.

Well, I, you know...

Because they'd be overcoming it.

With all due respect, I think that if thousands of people were claiming this and it was defining your reputation you're, because all you have is a career, I imagine. We have a party to defend. But in case of your person and your career, and if it damages your career and harms your goals, I think you would actually be invested and correcting the record

and telling the truth actually.

Okay, but let's get into it, all right?

Because I think the energy is in debate

and not respond.

Because sometimes it seems like you're responding to like,

you know, a post gets like 70 likes.

And they're telling a lie.

You don't need to worry about that.

That's just, that's just Wilding Gyers, my buddy.

That's what?

That's just Wilding Jeyers.

You mean the Australian Gino guy? Yeah guy yeah he said gino a lot yeah that guy um look he he is a person who pretentiously pretends to be like this accelerationist intellectual who's like identifying with the esoteric wisdom of Asia and all it

took for him to totally lose his fucking mind and turn into an orbiter was getting negative

socialization experiences on social media and that has made him personally committed to saying

whatever he can about us negatively, regardless of the facts, regardless of the truth, purely

out of pettiness.

And that was enough for me to prove that these pseudo-intellectual pretentious people can be brought down to the lowest levels of pettiness and vulgarity and smallness.

And that alone is what satisfies, you know, what I had said about to prove as far as, because I did, I very much dislike this smug pretentiousness of being an Australian, pretending to be some kind of esoteric, you know, sino-accelerationist who knows all of these Taoist, you know,

uh, wisdoms and you're so above

it all and you're this watching the shadows

and look at what you've become

now. You've become a fucking

lowest of the low piece of trash

trash

TV. So in of trash trash he's saying that

or he

is that

TV

so in any case

what did you

want to debate

though

because if he

wants to debate

he should come

in here

and debate

himself

I mean he would

probably do

like Lysenkoism but that's played out.

I have a bigger goal for you, Haas.

I want you to fold up ACP.

I want you to end it.

I want you to go back to being

2022, 2022,

2023 Haas.

Infrared.

I know.

I think that is what a lot of the

beds want.

They just, they're saying,

I've been warned, by the way.

These people warn me, they give me hints.

They go, Haas, you need to cut it out.

All these anonymous people, they're so

creepy. They'll be like, Haas, you're barking

up the wrong tree here. You got to shut it

down. You got to just go back to being a funny

streamer because this, you

don't even know. You're weighing

over your head you know

and uh i have to say i think it's more that acp like hasn't proved

its necessity because

okay you know let me let me give you about let me give you like my

my strongest example chris morlock right he's like your berkeley branch

Berkeley california no he's not his most recent what are you talking example. Chris Morlock, right? He's like your Berkeley branch, Berkeley, California.

No, he's not our... What are you talking about? He's not our Berkeley branch. He's a single

individual who is now in the Politburo, by the way, who is in the California chapter, one of

our largest chapter. California chapter, one of our largest chapter.

California chapter.

The California chapter.

Okay.

They sent eight people to a protest of the University of California system,

part-time employees union or teacher substitute teachers union what was it

get to the point

the PSL does this better than you guys

like why are you doing like what the Boy Scouts and what the PSL do

you have to prove your necessity somehow else.

When was the PSL formed?

I actually don't know.

You tell me.

You can guess.

70s

Really?

When were we formed?

A year ago.

Right.

So if a party that has decades on us,

has more numbers and is doing things more aggressively and with a wider scope than we are.

I don't think that's incredibly...

But it's not like the activity you're interested in doing is like trash cleanups,

like Eagle Scout projects?

Because the Boy Scouts

can do that. No, that is, no, community

service is one of the

things we do by default,

but we have a national

labor strategy that we're currently pursuing,

which is very promising. In addition to many other things.

So the idea that just because we do community service and outreach, that that's the only thing we do.

I think a cursory glance on our main X profile would disprove that claim that's all we do.

All right.

Let me move to point two, okay?

Cut Midwest marks loose.

Cut them loose, dead weight.

They're a millstone around your neck.

Okay?

These guys do not know economics.

They are gold bugs.

They talk about Vanguard and BlackRock

as like these spooky ghosts.

But they don't even know what they do.

They don't understand the corporate structure of vanguard yeah i don't

i don't think you're particularly serious here

and i don't understand what do you mean

attention is um

look i'm an orthodox pseudo doxological vanguardist, okay?

Van, literally Vanguard, like out of Vanguard and BlackRock,

they didn't name themselves that because they like the word.

They're it!

They're it! Do it?

You got a monster?

No, I'm just going to let you, I guess... Yeah, let me explain it, let me explain it, okay?

No, I'm going to allow you to kind of...

I'm giving you this silence

so you could really reflect upon

what you're accomplishing here with this series.

Let me tell you why.

Who owns Zangar?

Who owns Zangar?

I'm going to go ahead and respond to your proposal about quote unquote cutting off Midwestern Marx.

That is not a relevant proposal in any way to the party because the party, while consisting of people from Midwestern Marx, is not infrared or Midwestern Marx. It's the American Communist Party.

And if you have theoretical disagreements about some of our members' views on economics, that's fine. But I don't understand what you're even trying to confront me with here

besides the fact that you have differing

views about economics than

someone in Midwestern Marx,

supposedly.

So Midwestern Marx doesn't reflect

like the party in general?

You have to

point to specific instances

of members of our party or members

of our leadership

voicing views that

oh come on man I don't want a homework assignment

I don't want to go I don't want to turn my mic off and go back and search for tweets and then tweet it into the...

So I'm a very busy person, and every week I hold to confront the chairman space.

I think doing your homework in between that time is not a lot asking as far as you know, you wanting to take...

Okay, so if I say that they

treat Vanguard and Black Rock as being

these spooky ghosts, then they don't know anything about it.

Is that something that you disagree with?

I disagree with your characterization

of their views on it.

Yes, I do.

Okay. Well, I'll take the homework assignment.

All right.

And we're going to post it.

We're going to post it by Vanguard. And then we'll talk about Vanguard.

But I have one last point.

Okay? You want to do point three.

Three's a nice round number.

Aren't you interested in bringing up some of the more sensational claims that are made about us?

Yeah, okay.

Well, you're the big one.

Yeah.

Because, you know

you guys were in damage control mode

after the whole Danny Shaw thing

and I agree with you guys on the Danny Shaw thing

he was just he's a pathological liar

What do you mean by damage control

I mean dedicating like a stream

To recapping and reviewing some Twitter thread that has, like, 100 likes that's, you know, talking about your reputation.

You don't think it was important for the public and for the party to know what actually happened?

I think it's a time of success.

Why is it that our detractors are the only ones who are allowed to tell their side of the story?

Why can't we tell our side of the story?

What did Nancy, the strongest woman in America, Nancy Pelosi, what did she do about all the conspiracy theories about Paul Pelosi?

Nothing.

Yeah, and she's going to be under a guillotine in a matter of years, probably.

Well, she's going to be dead in like six months.

It's a really terrible example to you.

From old age, from old age, example to you. From old age.

From old age.

From old age.

From old age.

Here we go.

We're going to move on to the third thing.

Okay?

Third point.

Young men.

Two young.

No families. No women one name one example with evidence name one example

that there are yeah name b you lost br k, your last female member.

So do you have any evidence? I'm just asking if it's a concern.

Do you have any evidence that Brie was the only or even the most prominent female member of our party?

Where's the evidence that Brie was the only female member of our party

Hey look

All I know is what comes across my TL

But she was a

I agree that's all you guys

And that's all you know

That blue Mustang?

That's all you know

That blue Mustang

Woo! that blue mustang woo!

Woo!

What are you talking about?

I don't know. I thought it was cool that she had a blue Mustang.

So,

you did make another claim. You made the claim that our party has people that are too young.

What do you mean by that?

Well, who's the recruiting drive aimed at right now?

Three percent.

What's up?

20 men and not women?

And is that an optics concern?

These are just open questions.

You think people in their 20s are too young?

Sir, I'm in my 20s.

Yeah, but you're smart.

You know, you're smarter than these NW.

I don't want to glaze you too much as I like you. But, you know, a lot of your members, they have the scars and the hallmarks of being young men.

Like, you know, I think of you guys as being a phenomenon that emerged out of the

manosphere in a certain sense, you know, two whole.

That's manosphere stuff.

Why is that manosphere stuff?

Why is two whole manosphere stuff?

Why is going on a e-girl stream and arguing with

her about genitals, Manosphere stuff?

Are you asking me that, huh?

Yes, I am, because when I was

on Twitch and when I was Twitch streaming

before I had any real political...

You went on dating shows. You went on

roundabout dating shows.

Right.

But I was

engaging in content

that was

purely for

entertainment and

wasn't really

serious in any

political capacity

at all.

And by the

way, you know,

at that moment,

at that time in our community, we actually had

feminists as mods, you know, in our, in the chat, in Twitch and in our discords and everything.

So, and it was very, by the the way almost all of them were feminist actually

so there was a lot of silliness there was a lot of comedy and by the way you know it wasn't

particularly a very i wasn't wearing suits and being like very serious, okay, as the chairman of a party.

I was wearing beaters with a really shitty camera in my apartment.

I like the club and the sword.

Exactly. So, and that whole thing, by the way, the sword. Exactly.

And that whole thing, by the way, in general,

if it confuses people how

I could be so ridiculous back then

and somewhat composed and serious now. I very much detested social media and streaming culture and political live streaming in general. I...

For clout for clout's sake. I absolutely

wanted to just

destroy all of it

and make a complete mockery of all of it

and constantly prove

how unsurious

the medium itself was

until

I got to a point where I realized that the message is loud and clear.

Others have proven its unquote uns seriousness far better than I could possibly.

And now I've gotten to a point where it's superfluous.

I mean, there is no serious, real foundation of authentic discourse outside social media that survived. There's no prestigious academic institutions where real discourse happens. There's no serious roundtables and discussions going on and more refined podcasts.

It is all just this extremely hypermodern attention economy.

And I decided at a certain point to just own up to it and take a more wise view of the long game, that it's a marathon and not a race.

So, and by the way, in good faith, that's how I respond to your question.

It has nothing to do with anything, Manosphere, or whatever you're talking about.

To be honest, I had always made a point of separating my person individually from the actual political cause. The real political cause is not Manosphere. The subject is not men. The subject is not women. The subject is the American working class.

Our party has institutionalized that

fact. It completely prohibits

any discrimination on the basis of

sex. It completely prohibits

any view that is short of acknowledging the political complete political equality

and comradeship

of its female members

that is

what i believe

as an institution for the american communist party and in my capacity as chairman.

That being said, we have not prohibited humor and being a normal human being and having a personality.

I have less of that nowadays because of my institutional responsibilities. But in any case...

Well, you know, it's good PR.

Good PR to say the things that you're saying

but I think it's

bad PR to do so much damage

damage control because you want

what you wanted me to say when I came up

it's not PR it's a principle

I know you're bringing arms

to Haiti, right? You're hoping to fight someone on that basis. It's not PR. It's about a principle

of truth versus lies. It's a principle of defending the honor of our party

versus those that are attempting to dishonor it with lies.

And it's very simple.

What do you want to debate today?

You want Wilden Jiris to come up and say...

I think that many of you are... I don't know who you are in particular, but many people are making a lot of posts,

accusing us of a lot of different things.

I would like them to confront me with their accusations and their claims directly

and see if they hold up to scrutiny.

Well, that's good. That's the good content right there.

Right. Isn't that the good content?

I know, I guess in good faith, I'm going to interpret your cynicism as an attempt to basically say that, you know, everything, we're just doing it all for clout to get attention for attention's sake, to make money or for whatever.

But I think it should be clear by now after me being in the scene for over four years

that everything I have done for attention in the past or in the present or whatever, all of the attention, all of the whole purpose of it is for all those volumes of attention to be directed toward the cause of politically constructing a communist party at a certain point that party was supposed to be the c p u s a now it's clearly the american communist party The mission from day one has always been the same. It has always been the same goal. The goal has always been the construction of an independent Communist Party founded upon the principles of Marxism, Leninism. That has always been the goal that's never changed.

Everything I have done in public, everything I have done on the internet as Haas, has been in pursuit of that goal and nothing else.

There is no way to rationalize or make sense, anything I've done.

My mistakes and my correct decisions, notwithstanding.

Everything I have done, the only thing thing the only way you could actually consistently

interpret the rationale behind what i do is that i want the revival of communist politics

in the 21st century and in the united states in particular

all right all i'm going to take that advice i'm not going to be so cynical i do think you're

at cross purposes a little bit but that's just you know that's that's emerging out if you want to

talk about the man if i could have easily gone to Miami, you know, a few years or a year ago and done extremely trashy content and gotten really viral and famous.

Really doing Manosphere stuff, going on Fresh and Fit every week, all that kind of shit. I could have done that. The only time I went on fresh and fit every week all that kind of shit i could have well the

only time i went on fresh and fit was to debate someone uh a right winger they were just hosting the

debate and i was already chairman of the party i had so many opportunities to just go viral

and make a fuck ton of money but they didn't align with the actual goals I was pursuing.

So I didn't do it.

So if you want to be cynical and say this is all just content and it's all just about internet virality or whatever you're going to have you have a hard

time actually explaining why i've made the decisions that i have no well what i'm saying is

that it's not all about it but it's indispensable, isn't it? Okay.

I want to ask you a simple question.

Yes.

What did Lenin say was the foundation of a workers' party?

During his time, this was the Social Democratic Labor Party.

But what was the foundation of the party for...

Tech Rose, final answer.

What's your answer?

Tech Bros, final answer.

Can you... I can't hear what you're saying.

Tech Bros. Time in motion, men.

No, he said it was the newspaper.

He said it was media.

And I would like you to just guess what that looks like in the 21st century in terms of how media has evolved.

Zer! What's going on?

Are you doing with me now?

50, wow!

Holy shit, thank you. And also sleeper-ssel.

Sorry, repeat that.

Aren't you agreeing with me now?

Like, the spectacle comes first?

It's not a spectacle. It's communication.

It's that simple.

We are not telepathic animals who can somehow

remotely

communicate

the goal of organization to each other without actually engaging in the act of communication.

If you're interested in political organization, communication is central.

And how communication has evolved in the 21st century probably should be examined.

There are Trotskyites who still are printing newspapers because they believe in the sanctity of the

printed press for some reason. But we live in the 21st century,

and I don't think it falls within

the spirit of Marxism to just emulate

and repeat outdated

It's like I'm saying.

Like a what?

It's like I'm saying.

It's like I'm saying it. It's like I'm hearing myself talk right now okay

DG what's going on

so what what what I'm gonna DG, what's going on?

So what, what... I'm going to teach you guys about Vanguard.

No, we don't want to hear your...

This is not your time to ask.

Not now, not now, not now.

We want to hear about all these things.

We would like you to confront us with the lies you say about us.

Well, I don't say any lies.

Well, those of your friends, those that you regard us, credible.

What are some of the things you've'm psychologizing you a little bit.

What are some of the things you've heard about us that you find credible?

And I find credible?

Yeah.

Very little.

Very little.

Right.

And it's partially because...

Yeah.

Oh, let me think.

So you can somehow see that...

Cool, look, look.

I actually am...

I'm ex-NSA.

So when people talk about, like, NSA agents...

Anyone from the NSA lasts when they hear NSA agent. Anyone from the NSA?

laughs when they hear NSA agent.

Okay.

Do you know that that's funny?

Do you know that that's a joke?

It's very funny.

Unfortunately,

you know, comedy night has come to an end.

Sabatchin Unfortunately, you know, comedy night has come to an end. Sabatian, I'm going to bring you as a speaker. Go ahead. Hello

Yeah

Hello, Hawes, can you hear me?

Yeah.

Oh, I'd just like to start by saying, I respect what you've been doing, your community building.

It's a lot of good work.

I just want to say, why not divest from...

I don't follow everything, so please point of privilege, excuse me.

Why not divest from Trump these days?

What investment? from Trump these days.

What investment in Trump do you notice that you think we need to be divesting from?

Can you tell me your position on Putin at the moment in Russia?

We very much are in solidarity with the Russian people and the Russian state's pursuit of self-determination and sovereignty, in contradiction to U.S. hegemony and imperialism.

Putin, isn't he a mafia boss rather than a communist or any type of anti-imperialist?

Isn't he trying to impose his own form of imperialism?

No, I don't see any imperialism Putin is trying to impose.

What about the situation in Georgia what about it means Georgia part of the western block or do you think I guess it would be for the Georgian people to

decide and they seem to have decided by electing a relatively pro-Russian president.

Now, that a few college liberals in the cities have a problem with that, who are in the minority, as proven by the results of the election

in no way justify shifting the blame onto Putin for the decisions of the Georgian people

is uh trump the kbgb version of the gorbachev CIA that's you know what i mean

we have not been presented with any information nor have we found any information that suggests Trump is in any way working for Russia.

I mean, we can say the same thing for Brovetov.

Well, I don't know about that, actually.

The issue is that we can't really judge intentions but we can judge

just like through a mere

shimmer lens for a realism

lens we can see that pretty much every move that Trump has made has been pro-Russia.

That is not necessarily true, but there is some mystery surrounding Trump's motivations.

There has always been mystery, by the way.

But we don't...

I will admit the situation is not very clear to me as far as...

I've hear a lot of theories that this is just the neo-conservative strategy

to disentangle Russia and China.

I don't know how convinced I am of that,

but I think right now in the world

there's a lot of uncertainty and there's not a lot of clarity.

There's a lot of uncertainty and there's not a lot of clarity um there's a new antagonism between israel and turkey that's happening you know there's realignments

that are occurring at rapid pace and then there's also the fallout between the united States and NATO and the European Union in particular, led by Trump.

So it's all very mysterious to me. I have theories. I have an idea of it, but I don't have a certainty.

And one of the, I guess, weak spots is that the weakness between the China-Russia, the possible weakness between the China Russia the possible weakness between the China Russia

relationship as well

and why do you think that is

is that because

I think it's because I don't think

Trump has shown any interest

in Taiwan so far.

I think he has made indications before he's not interested in it.

And I think that he is communicated.

He doesn't care about imposing the paradigm of human rights upon China.

I don't know what the strategy of U.S. encirclement of China is going to be.

If Trump alienates, especially if he begins to alienate the Anglo-Saxon allies, he started already with Canada.

The U.K., not overtly, although tensions seem to be rearing over the Ukraine conflict. Australia would be a big indication as well. I don't know where the angle is going to come from.

Before it had been Taiwan and Taiwan separatism was the way the U.S. was going to basically launch its attack against China.

Then there was the attempt to uphold unilateral, you know, UN conventions, for example, on the sea and on maritime rights.

As far as China's disputes with some of its neighbors like the Philippines.

Trump seems less interested in upholding the unilateral rules-based world order

in the way that his predecessors have.

He also seems less interested in Taiwan separatism.

I don't know what the angle is going to be

against China militarily and politically.

We know economically what's going on

is very clear.

Militarily and politically, it's not very clear

to me yet.

And what is, just to push you a little bit, because I myself go back and forth on the commitments of the CCP to communism, mainly because of Xi Jinping's basically uphold destruction of the rule of law a couple of years ago, 20 couple of years ago, if you know what I'm talking about.

Yeah, look, all this Reddit stuff,

the current administration doesn't seem like they care about it.

You know, this Reddit stuff you're talking about,

about the rule of law.

It's all meaningless now.

It means nothing.

I remember in 2021, I used to argue with the CIA kind of streamers and people and breadtubers. And they'd always tell me

about human rights and the rule of law and all their criticism of China. Now that's over. It's done.

America has tapped out. So that means the whole thing is done. And it's not even, it's as, it is as, it is as worth taking seriously at this point, as taking seriously the various feudal codes of the ancient regime and pretending they have any relevance in the contemporary setting.

There is no, the whole paradigm of liberal politics, neoliberal politics, I should rather rather say it's all done it's all

over

it has no weight it has no authority it has nothing

canada the super the principle of so-called rule of law is is canada going to be the

one that's going to be at the vanguard of that now?

I laugh at Canada and they're yeast.

A rule of law doesn't need a vanguard.

A rule of law is just following your own rules.

I know, I don't know what you mean by vanguard.

I am aware of what the notion of rule of law

is and how it's been weaponized to criticize

so-called authoritarian regimes. I'm just telling

you Trump doesn't really care about it.

The U.S. doesn't seem to care about it anymore.

It's over. It's done.

It's not relevant.

The rule of law isn't

about, so

of course, the American

the American, let's say

Republic or is

right now steeping in

its own moral bankruptcy.

Right.

But now there's the EU and there's Canada.

Places which have no authority in the world as far as any serious players are concerned.

But the rule of law isn't necessarily

it's a sacrosanct thing.

It's not a liberal...

Sacred sanct according to who and what?

According to itself.

It's just the fact that you follow your own...

A genuine sovereign and a genuine political authority

can absolutely sacrifice the consistency of legal formalism

in circumstances in which the content of the authority of the state is at stake.

The content of the authority of the state is at stake. The content of the authority of the state.

Yes.

Sure, there are like, there are like wartime scenarios.

That's what you're talking about.

But for the, just for the fact of...

There are wartime scenarios.

There are new historical circumstances.

There are changes in the relations and forces of production that endanger the necessity of new forms of authority

for me the rule of law is just following the procedure that's on the law itself

following the piece of paper. I think that China

has shown a strong

rule of law. I don't know

what your issue is,

even. Well, the fact that

No, Winnie! Thank you, brother.

She

didn't necessarily

follow the procedure

that was set out and rather

it was just... How did he violate the laws

of the CPC?

Well, it's an oligarchic

mafia games playing

that is uh that is formally

and legally completely

meaningless language how how did he

violate its actual formal

procedures

well

you're talking about what you perceive to be informal things that are in no way enumerated according to the laws of the CPC.

That is just meaningless kind of speculation and perception.

It has nothing to do with the actual lawful procedures of the party,

which absolutely have

not been enumerated in such a way so as to prevent

or preempt the possibility

of Xi Jinping's

reforms.

Okay, well, let me take another angle then.

The other angle would be, for example, offshore accounts of maybe not she, but his immediate family.

Oh, fake.

Well, well, no, it's actually there's documented cases of not, not using Xi Jinping of corruption. Well, not she himself. You're accusing Xi Jinping of corruption?

Well, not she himself,

but definitely

his inner circle.

Who in his inner circle

is corrupt?

Well, I have to

look it up right now, but if you want,

just give me one moment, and I can

come in with, sorry, I work

all day and,

um,

get to give me a moment to give me a couple minutes

if you want me to actually look up

specific uh

people

one moment

sorry I'm very tired as well

oh one moment. Sorry, I'm very tired as well.

Oh, man.

I should come in more prepared for a debate.

Oh, well, can you

just, uh, can you just,

let's just say that it's a,

can you just give me the benefit of the doubt on this point?

No.

You got to do it bro i gotta find

well there are

lots of

figures there's like

man i have this whole bit

i think that's enough um

there's no one else requesting so i'm gonna try to bring up co-hosts who can maybe i invited

kyle let me invite kela um co-hosts that could see people that i can't see And we just want to hear...

Because a lot of people come in and they just presuppose that everything they've heard about us is correct.

And we would like to see if that's true.

It's very rare people can evaluate their premises and their false biases, their false misinformation they've been fed. They just take it for granted and assume it's fact, when in fact it was never subjected to any kind of scrutiny.

Hello.

Hey, what's up, Kyle? Can you see anyone requesting?

Uh, yeah, there's two.

America, Filae and global camaraderie something or other.

Okay.

Now there's three, but I think that was just the guy that you just talked to.

So I'll bring up one of the others.

There you go. Yeah. so I'll bring up one of the others.

There you go.

Yeah.

Go ahead, American. and Well, it doesn't seem likely. I'll bring up another one. Um, here's, uh, this guy. I don't know.

I don't know who say rights, but yeah.

Do I say right?

I don't know what you're trying to say

As I was like

In Russian I would say hello

I was like Grajita or something like that is

Sure

What's going on?

Yeah

Well whatever

My name says,

Global Comerty for Palestine, so, you know,

Palestinian activist.

Did we speak before?

Have we spoken before?

Yes, of course.

We've spoken twice.

Okay. Yeah, so i was at a at a space yesterday with what's the name zagonal and there's this guy corin franciscini basically he's a morocan

italian who fought with uh i I think, the, uh,

the, uh, Yepege in Syria. And you know, we were talking about how he went to the

Israeli TV channel, uh, basically to, uh, to enlist help for Israel to invade Syria.

So my point of this is like, uh, what, uh, like what are the what are they called the communist

ACP or other communist parties doing to combat basically uh communist people that are basically

taken by uh what are called controlled opposition

by the government. Basically, the outline

with the USA and its empire and other new

liberal capitalist.

Well,

we're currently suing them

in court, so.

Who are you suing? Who are you suing? We're suing them in court. Oh, who are you suing?

We're suing a number of individuals

who are aligned with the

Cointill Pro controlled opposition, I guess you

would call it. Fake

honest. Or they don't

They don't call them those communists

They're just these fake leftists

You know

There's one individual

Who violated several laws

That he's going to be held accountable

Not even just defamation

Danny Shaw And then there's a few

other individuals who work together in collaboration who are notorious for spreading lies about us on a

on a mass scale.

So this is

especially

it needs to be

named

you know

any organization

that does this

any organization

that's

that change

of spots

for what I call

either money

or recognition

need to be

named

in a single

Fiorella

Isabel is a famous

journalist on X

she was part of our

journalist tour group

in Lebanon and even traveled

with us to the southern border

and then she leaked

the

she leaked our

security of the press

tour group,

um,

and our location,

and our security,

and the itinerary

for the resistance,

uh,

organized conferences,

to the Zionist press

and to the Mossad.

So that's what she did.

She was basically acting as a Zionist spy that entire trip.

And the Jerusalem Times picked it up.

The Jerusalem Times or the Jerusalem Post picked it up

and they used it to slander the entire thing and smear everyone, smear the entire resistance.

So, and she is, she is directly working with and aligned with this cult that we're targeting of feds.

And we, we are And we want the discovery

to expose if these people are government

agents. And it's the right

time to do it. Because

right now a lot of things are being

exposed when it comes to the intelligence community

and we want to do it through the courts.

Zerweni, what's going on?

It's true, true, true.

But just like the philosophy as well certain people nowadays,

it's just they're basically saying that America is good

because you know, it's protecting people before the war in Gaza

happened because of Ukraine

say, how can you be able

with Russia?

Because, you know, Russia is the aggressor.

There's a lot of stupidity going on.

And even what's his name?

Slavor Zhijek,

which I'm disappointed by.

I don't think he's the Fed,

but, yeah, but, you know, his philosophy.

Thank you so much for coming on.

I really appreciate it.

Kyle, is there anyone else requesting, specifically ops?

Yeah, there's two more requests.

I'll put the guy who was next in line

of. Yeah.

Hey, can you hear me? Yes.

So I'm honest, I'd really like a longer formform conversation, but I know that's not the format.

I would just like to challenge you on, what do you think about Marx's main influence being Ricardo, you know, in Anglo-Economics?

In particular, I attacked the labor theory of value as

as being the roots

of Marx's theory of exploitation and really

philate and he took it from Ricardo

which is interesting to me because it's an English

thing you know

if you're opposed to Anglo-American capitalist class, that's kind of where it comes.

He kind of saw himself as doing that thing.

That's what Kantpott actually really illuminated for me.

He saw himself in that tradition.

He was kind of trying to fit in with them.

You mean, I hear the LaRouche people say this a lot, that Marx basically wanted to embed

himself within British political economy versus the American protectionist school.

Yeah, some people even say, I disagree with the whole premise.

I disagree with that premise because

Marx was first of all setting about a critique of English,

not just English,

but the whole culmination of the school of political economy,

which the English had made the most lasting and most notorious contribution to with Adam Smith.

And, of course, Ricardo and so on, but especially Adam Smith.

Now, when it comes to the American school,

and we're talking here about Henry George in particular,

while Marx was not particularly enthusiastic about

the protectionist

and the

American school

and

Henry Carey

and so on

and so on

those were

people that

were

advocating

specific kinds

of policies

which Marx did not necessarily himself disagree with,

he just didn't believe they would ultimately resolve the fundamental contradictions of the capitalist system.

If you look at the Communist manifesto, I mean, the notion of a land tax, I mean, these are not things Marx thinks are wrong policies. He was very critical of protectionism in general versus free trade. And he, and by the way, Marx and Engels, I think it could be paired up

with their views

on colonialism

in the very beginning as well.

They were also

of the view

that colonialism

had a historically

progressive role.

Their views evolved

over time and became more nuanced,

you know, as they actually saw the development of history unfold before their eyes.

But I think it's a false dichotomy because the school of political economy,

which is a comprehensive ability to kind of map out an understanding of what an economic system is and how it works and what is the fundamental, you know, reality of value and so on and so on, that was never, ever something really the American school

deigned to inquire upon

or flesh out comprehensively.

Well, and how it holistically

interacts with politics,

political economy,

as opposed to just

economics. Political economy, it's not necessarily

about politics. It's just about

understanding, you know, the fundamental economic

realities of a given polity or a community,

right, a nation.

That's too, that was too metaphysical for the tastes of the Americans,

so they didn't really explore that.

Yes, their pragmatism, maybe.

Again, I'd like to talk to you about

the continental philosophers

versus pragmatism and how they move past

the Enlightenment, but actually the Taibo on this theme,

does the ACP have a stance on the tariffs

on that note?

Are they anti-perfectionists?

I don't...

We don't have an official position we've communicated.

What I'll tell you about my view is that I agree with Michael Hudson, that the issue of tariffs

will completely ignore the root cause, which is that maybe sometimes tariffs can be beneficial,

but unless they are paired with an ability to address a few things. One, the debt, the debt spiraling out of control. And then, two, the cost of living, going sky high because of the rentier economy, because all of these things that should be in the public treated as public goods and utilities and taken care of by the government are gobbled up by the private sector which just treats them as rents and then they indefinitely raise the price of these rents

you know in tandem with the raising of interest and and and debt and so if the cost of living is so

high then the cost of labor becomes extremely and astronomically high.

And it completely eliminates the entire purpose of tariffs.

If you, if people can't afford college, if it's too expensive for people to live and get by,

then production and doing business will inevitably be very expensive.

And that's why the government, you know, historically was encouraged to have a monopoly over infrastructure

and

you know

public goods

and services

and whatever

to lower the costs

of business

yeah I don't know to lower the costs of business.

Yeah, I don't know, you know, as long as you'll tolerate me.

I would push, like, I actually think, you know, we could do autarky if they want to. I think what Tom is doing is a little silly because he is operating with this paradigm of what seems to be Malay-inspired free market GOP economics where he wants to completely eliminate the role of the state.

But on the other hand, he wants tariffs.

And I think it's a recipe that could lead to very bad outcomes.

The important thing is that the state should be used to lower the cost of business.

And in order to do that, it has to take care of a great deal of things that the private sector currently has a monopoly over.

Honestly,

the greatest thing I think

Doche could do is actually, like, get their hands in Medicare.

But, yeah.

I don't know.

What do you mean by get their hands in it?

Well, the state, you know, I'm not an anarchist.

I'm not a doctorate or libertarian anymore.

If you get a group of competent people together, they should be able to figure out how to make MRI cheaper.

Things like that.

Like, why are MRI so expensive? Well, anyway, Mercury, thank you so much for coming on.

Let's bring on the next person. about up, man like Ray.

Yo, can you hear me?

Yeah.

All right, uh, can you hear me? Yeah. All right.

So you guys have shown, the ACP has shown solidarity to the workers' party of Britain.

My question is, what are your thoughts on and have you tried to establish relations with the CPGBMLML?

Yes, to an extent, yes.

So, yeah, that's it really.

Okay, thanks. that's it really. Okay. Thanks.

All right.

Let's bring on the next person.

I don't have anybody else requesting.

Kayla, do you see anyone?

Nobody requesting, but I do see some pro-NATO Ukrainians in here, so maybe I invited them to speak, but let's see.

I see a request now.

Oh, we have one now.

Oh, it's just that guy before, Matthew, the NSA. Hey, I'm bad.

Oh, I'm bad.

Hold on.

Just a second.

Like an idiot.

Can you hear me?

Is there you there?

Yeah, I'm here.

Alright. Black Rock is a notorious investment manager firm that has worked closely with the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank's a hyper-privatized so we have um we have uh no one who will confront us.

I wonder what... Yeah, pretty typical.

For a party that is so maligned and so condemned and so attacked,

it's curious why they can't confront us with any of the claims they make about us.

I mean, I've also invited that Mass Strike Now account to fabricated some old Groyper screenshots, and she won't come.

But I do see someone now, Christine.

I'll bring her up.

Supposedly there's thousands of people invested in hating us.

I can't find a single one who will actually tell it to our face

christina go ahead please let's have a question about uh your like operations uh this is not like

a confrontation but i just want to know like in terms terms of that you live in the rest parts, right?

You live in the, like, the Midwest.

So my understanding is, what is like your form of, as a political party?

What sort of policies do you propose within the current system to help working class people in this year be industrialized like if you read our program, we advocate a policy of reindustrialization that is led by a new state.

And it is purposeful, led by credit from a national bank nationalized financial system and

basically prioritizes the long-term benefits of building infrastructure and lowering

the cost of enterprises

over... What is the means to get

there? Well, that's

political strategy. That would

presupposes the seizure

of political power.

I've noticed that ACPS has had a lot of like, like PR mishaps.

How do you, like especially with Jackson Hinkle, the former Bernie Bro.

My question is, um, it does, you know, former bunny broadcast my Christian is

it does

you know

reputation of of course

there's a big value for any organization

whatever it is

how do you intend to

vanguard and protect the image of the party

through litigating the matter and to vanguard and protect the image of the party?

Through litigating the matter in

public court of law.

Don't you

affect criticism that is that

comes across a little bit

bourgeois, no?

No, we are, no, I'll tell you why it's not bourgeois.

Because if there were no laws,

we would still have to take the law in our own hands to defend our rights.

Absolutely.

In the Wild West and in prisons and in third world countries where there are no laws, when you start lying about people and you start lying about a group and spreading bullshit about them, there are consequences.

So thankfully, we live in a civilized country that has laws where we can defend our rights just like if someone breaks into your home you're going to call the police well yes absolutely we are we are defending our rights because we also have to follow the law and if we have to follow the law.

And if we have to follow the law, that means we're going to use the law to defend the rights that the state claims that we have.

No, no, I'm not saying you shouldn't do, but what I'm saying is the appearances for other people in the periphery or within the crowd they might see it as overly litigious as opposed to...

No, it is not because defamation is very serious.

Because when you have the unrestricted ability to lie about people and fabricate reality, that is a form of violence.

That is no different than someone violently destroying something and blowing it up.

You're violently altering reality

in a way that is illegitimate.

You are abruptly and violently

trying to change people's perceptions

in a way that doesn't reflect

the legitimate norms

of reality and society.

Okay?

We are being accused of things that we are not guilty of.

We are being labeled in ways that we have nothing to do with.

It's being claimed that we have secret discord chats where our truevies.

These are just complete, complete fucking lies. I was someone

personally subjected to the to lies for years. They called me Adam to year and I did nothing about it.

I knew the same thing would happen to our party the minute we launched it.

And I didn't have any patience for it.

We're going to pursue it legally and we're going to defend ourselves in court.

And we're going to see in a public court of law what the truth and the facts are about our party.

And that's it.

I think that's a good strategy,

but what I'm referring to is just in terms of a PR approach, like

the Stuyzen effect.

We cannot control PR, okay?

If someone with a very,

if feds boost an astroturf

a tweet that makes something up about us thousands of people see it

no matter how we react we are not going to change the fact that this is what people think that's why

you have to litigate it in court. And that's how it works.

That's why there are defamation laws.

That's why there's precedent for taking

it to civil court to defend yourself

from defamation. Because it's a

weapon of war. It's a weapon

of war. And the reason we

have an ability to resolve it legally in our society is because in every other society on earth, if the state does not protect its citizens' rights to defend their reputation fairly, citizens start taking that into their own hands.

And it's very ugly.

So thankfully we live in a civilized society.

You had made that point.

I was not questioning that point.

So in prison, if you start lying about someone and you say this person's a snitch and it was a lie,

you are going to

get shanked. So they are

calling us feds and they fed jacket

us, for example.

They, for example, say that we're

Nazis and that were just some Nazi

party that was renamed and that we

have secret discords and all this crap that they

themselves have made up in our inn they've made up so many things I could just name off of the

top of my fucking head that we're running guns that somehow we are full of police in our party, all of this nonsense.

And there is no recourse we have except a court of law, none.

So like the, regarding the police, the officers, that there's a rumor message saying that there is one, is this a fake message that they photoshopped it?

I had immediately found out that there was one then and there for the first time, to my surprise, and I said, this isn't a good look. Let's not advertise this. And let's talk about whether we should even allow this. But before anything, in my judgment, right? in my judgment

right in my judgment

it wasn't fair that

this fact should ever be published

because I didn't know about it

and therefore it doesn't reflect

the party's views on the matter so that was that and that was

one guy who is in washington who is a deputy sheriff in a town with less than 7,000 people who has a very upstanding and

good reputation in their community and it's one guy only and we are still discussing it and

debating it and debating it.

And had I had no experience with a party, my first instinct would be remove them immediately, no questions asked.

But I get pushback.

I get pushback from people on the ground who have experience who say, well, it's not particularly fair. This is what his community thinks, the actual people in his community. This is what he's done. This is his character.

And that would be unfair. So if I was just someone who was a streamer on the internet who has an ideology and thinks they fucking know it all, I would just impose my will. But I don't know it all. Neither does anyone else. It opens up questions a party has never had to face before. Do we, out of principle, just expel them,

regardless of their good deeds and good character and good standing in their community? Because of the

overall systemic issues with the police in America? Or are there nuances to this issue, given the fact they're not a city cop, given the fact it's

an extraordinary and unusual circumstances, should we just unilaterally expel them and

kick them out?

Just because... unilaterally expel them and kick them out just because of the principle that, you know, that the police are a bad institution. A principle we don't disagree with, by the way.

You don't understand that it makes a little

sense. My personal opinion of, if you want to hear,

is this might be a conflict of interest

at the early stage when there is not as enough

van guards and structure, but a little of other in the early stage when there is not enough of vanguard and

structure, but a lot of other people

discuss this sort of like this are the Pan American

person.

The Pan American

common, like is the

I'll use the name as

Pan

Cominter intern

That person is

Somehow saying they're

Associated with you and they're doxing people is

What is the substance of this?

There's no substance to it.

They supposedly have the entirety of our Politburo chat before January 17, something Danny Shaw has illegally leaked.

Okay.

Find a single piece of evidence of us coordinating with anyone to docks anyone

publicly as a party. As a party. Find a single piece of evidence of us coming together as a party

and making a decision as a party, me, Kyle, and everyone coming together and saying, as a party, we're going to leak this person's information.

To the public.

What is the Danny Shaw?

What?

Who is Danny Shaw?

Danny Shaw is the person who doxed me by doxing

my name. He's a doxer

and a coin till pro fed for all we know.

He's also

a lot of other things you're going to find out

in the coming days.

And he is the person who leaked the Politburo chat.

By the way, the Politburo is not the highest body of the party.

The executive board is.

So that was just the Politburo chat, which he leaked before January 17th.

He supposedly leaked everything.

I see, I see.

So did people not know your, like,

full name before this incident?

No, they claimed falsely that it was Adam to hear

until Danny Shaw doxed me.

And Brianna Barry Baw doxed me and brianna berry brie doxed me

i see i see but um wouldn't it be expected is somebody in a political party that is to to know if you're going to accuse us of doxing.

I'm not accuse you at all.

Even if that was true, these are the very same people who doxed me personally,

who tried to dox me personally, failed.

And then now openly spread Danny Shaw's docs about me.

Yes.

Where's the consequences for that?

Where's the justice for that?

I don't support doxing.

But in such an environment, how do you defend yourself?

I agree with how you defend yourself.

The thing is, this space is called

to confront the chairman, so I thought to ask these

questions that people are caring. I'm giving you the answer.

I'm not sure of anything

at all.

Okay.

I hope these people are feeding you all this stuff.

So they feed you more.

I don't like people.

I have just seen them around like on the Twitter.

Um,

please more.

Bring more of the concerns

I don't really have much more

this is just the two things I had on my

bookmarks

oh I think there should be more though

because there is more that they claim

do you well I guess

I guess you can talk about

it if you want but I don't have anything more would be to say thank

you so much for your time hars okay i'll every day

bringing up karl Crazy.

Bringing up Carl.

Good.

Can you hear me?

Yeah.

Okay.

So cut me off if you want me to leave because I don't have anything to confront you with.

But Danny Shaw basically claimed to the Palestine movement at NYC that he was expelled from the university he was professor at.

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, Carl, we know the real reason.

You know?

Oh, yeah, we do.

And there's much more.

He also

low-key,

like,

kind of incited

a race riot

between Dominicans

and Haitians

and the Bronx.

He's a fucking fed,

dude.

I don't know

what to tell you.

But...

He gave a crazy-ass speech.

Just wait.

There's a lot about Dannyaw the public doesn't know because this

is the guy they're all colluding with and collaborating with that's not even the tip of the iceberg

right so stay tuned is all we could say and it's not just danny shaw either it's his friends the other records the other traders

plus these federal informants and child groomers so stay tuned because a big thing is coming

much sooner than people think okay have a good night y'all you too

there's nobody requesting right now well everybody got a sneak peek of what's coming but but yeah, we have no more requests that I can see. it's just that Matthew guy wants to talk about...

We have the Vanguard guys back.

I don't think anybody really wants to talk about that, frankly.

Up to you

hoss

okay

who's the vanguard guy again

the guy who's

uh was talking of

oh we have another guy now

it's been on before i think

oh he just

did not request. If you're

going to request, can you like keep it more than a second? Jesus Christ. Hello?

Yeah.

Hey, Red Salute House.

I'm really glad I got to talk to you and red salute to all my comrades here.

I just have a question for you, how do we organize like the American retail and bring about like the class consciousness over there like like you know the likes of Walmart the DJ Max's and stuff like that thank you can you repeat your question?

How do we organize what?

The workers working at American retail.

Because it's like an organized sector.

You don't need a lot so skill to get into,

but it's still not worth. As far as the question of organizing any segment of the American working class,

we are going to beginning with those that actually have a legacy,

institutionally with precedent of organizing the power of labor,

which is the blue collar working class. Once you have successes there, everything can spread

to others with much more ease.

So the strategic sectors of the economy,

the ones that are involved in the physical reproduction of society at its most fundamental level,

in the 21st century, that is the industrialized blue collar working glass.

So that is the strategy.

We're not going to start with retail.

We're going to start with the traditional proletariat Cool. Thank you. Yep. We're up to it. Thanks.

Yeah, I'm out of requests again.

We have a lot of the haters listening.

They just appear too cowardly to actually... Not a single one, not a single one of them have requested. Only the Matthew...

Not a single one of them are willing to confront me with anything.

They won't even send someone to confront me.

Why is it so scary to confront me?

Now, I'll give you an example.

They recently claim that we are a rebrand of a Nazi party,

Zoltanus's party. Zoltanus' party.

Zoltanus is an op of ours,

and they're claiming

ACP is rebranding his

thing, whatever, I even know the fucking name.

That is an actionable

claim that we are going

to rope into our litigation, it is outright defamation

and liable. There's not a single fucking person associated with Zoltanist that had anything to do

with the reconstitution of the CPUSA into the ACP.

So confront me with this claim.

Confront me with the supposed evidence.

Where's the evidence?

Again, it will be handled in a court of law. But I also want to make a point of revealing how these people are cowards and

liars who will not actually commit to what they are claiming because they can't commit to it, because it's impossible to commit to a lie and remain consistent in the face of either evidence or lack thereof. someone is talking about me meeting

Dmitry Symes Jr., a podcast host, because I was on his podcast, a podcast, a podcast that

is public.

You can watch it.

It's publicly available right now.

What is there? I'm literally have to go to my chat to see what it is that we should be

confronted with. Why are they only trying to confront people who don't know anything and lie to them and not confront me about the party?

I'm the chairman of the party.

Surely if you had dirt on our party, you'd be able to confront the chairman about it, and he'd be shocked and he'd look fucking stupid, and it'd be able to confront the chairman about it and he'd be shocked and he'd look fucking stupid

and it'd be terrible right what are we trying to cover up what are we afraid of

in what way are we being duplicitous or lying about who we are? Thank you. is there no one requesting

just the guy who wants to talk about Black Rock.

Yeah.

Even though he's supposedly best buds with, you know,

this guy who's talking all this

shit. He doesn't want to talk about the shit talking.

He just wants you to, uh,

I don't know, be a viral

streamer and

go back to wearing

beaters.

And I guess, I don't know.

I don't know what the agenda is.

Black Rock is going to save humanity or something stupid.

I couldn't tell you. Okay.

Maybe he wants to come on to back up his buddy, but I just don't understand why his good friend. So I want to make an announcement about one of the people who was one of our detractors.

I'm trying to find because they want the evidence that the tweet, the screenshots they shared weren't from our party but they were from they weren't from one of our

supporters but they were from uh here it is okay

send it right here

first I'll just send them that

yeah

Carl is back to requesting

but I don't know if you

well look I have to make an announcement

because I had promised in good faith.

So I don't know if you guys know the account Mass Strike Now.

You guys know the Mass Strike Now person.

They've been having a back and forth with a lot of people in our community and apparently it's created a lot of bad blood and there's been a back and forth and there's been um there's been a lot of animosity i didn't know who they were, and I made no assumptions about who they were, and I saw the

tweet they shared on their TL about someone supposedly DMing them, and I DM them saying,

you know, look, I don't know if you're doing this in good faith i don't know who you are

but we would like if this is someone from our community we'd like to know who it is

because we don't tolerate that and they had responded that you you know, basically that in good faith, they are just upset about, you know, constantly being swarmed. They don't want to settle disagreements in the way that it has been settled so far with so much bad blood and animosity. They don't want to be attacked and whatever. And then they said, look, if we can

come to a reasonable understanding, I'll remove

it. And

because they said they were coming from a place of good faith. They didn't mean to

engage in defamation. Slander.

So, I want you guys to take this as an example where sometimes people get roped in with certain communities where it becomes part of the socialization process

that goes on on social media where people start attacking us a lot and it's not necessarily

because they hate us and they mean us harm. It's just because they get caught up. And then it becomes a back and forth. And then someone who is not a Fed, you know, gets weaponized by bad faith actors against us.

And we want to prevent that as much as we can.

And guys, the goal should always be to build bridges and not burn them.

Because we're not the records who are trying to sow division.

We're not the records who are trying to cultivate an environment based on

antagonizing everyone who disagrees with us. If someone disagrees with you but remains principled about it,

your response should not be to treat them as a Schmidian enemy, okay?

And this person convinced me, at least, by their conduct and their willingness to delete the tweet, that they're not an enemy.

So going forward, I want you guys to go forward with the knowledge that they are coming from a position of good faith.

And going forward, they're not interested in attacking us in bad faith.

And you should not antagonize them.

And that's my official statement on that.

Don't antagonize them because they don't inherently hate us and want to destroy us and they don't inherently mean us harm.

So let's move on to

dealing with the more

pressing and important matters when it comes to the

defense of our party against actual

real bad faith actors

well what I have to say

about that mass strike now account was that I had actually those, that person that was DMing them, I get sent DMs from that same person and that those screenshots were posted months ago. They went viral. This same

person has been messaging a bunch of women online.

He's a Groyper. So,

I mean, that Mask Strike Now account saying

that, you know, they're engaging

in good faith doesn't really make sense to me

when they know this account is

not an ACP supporter.

He harasses me once a month.

Maybe they thought it was one of our supporters.

No, it was a pretty public thing.

They just did this intentionally.

I mean, they're just being duplicitous.

Um... this intentionally. I mean, they're just being duplicitous. Yeah, look, I don't...

I can't really know for sure what their intentions were,

but regardless, it seems like they've made a gesture of good faith in deleting it and um i think that

signals that they're not really interested in engaging in that kind of behavior going forward.

I think that, look, guys, this internet stuff, it creates a lot of stress and intensity psychologically. Maybe they got the DM. They didn't even check their profile, and they just assumed it's because they had been beefing with us for so long.

They just thought this person was associated with us.

You know?

Maybe.

Who knows? Maybe maybe maybe not but i think it's fair that for them to delete this shows an

acknowledgment it was a mistake and give people the benefit of the doubt you know if people harbor secret agendas against us,

only God can judge them for that.

It's on us to not allow these people

in our high positions of leadership that we have suspicions of.

Danny Shaw was with us for months, just like Bree.

We assumed nothing but good intentions from them.

Now they're on record, having said that they were plotting to wreck the party from the beginning ultimately the mistake fell upon us it fell upon us bringing Danny Sean to the Politburo.

Not having properly vetted him.

But now we have to defend our rights.

Regarding other people that are on the Internet who are not in our party or they're not in a party.

Before anyone is ideological, before anyone is political, they're human.

Human nature is such that if they're getting huge volumes of negative attention it's going to

psychologically affect them look at the australian guy guy no guy he started out as he's watching

the shadows then i did a little experiment what happened what would happen if the gorilla swarmed him? Because he kept talking shit. He was so smug. I couldn't stand him. He completely transformed into a different subjectivity, like psychologically altered for life. Now his whole life will be dedicated to us forever. Why? Because psychologically something affected him.

About experiencing multiple people negatively have views.

It's the big other turned on him.

Something shattered his psych

that will never ever be repaired.

This is the origin story

for a lot of our villains

who are not feds, by the way.

He's not a fed. He's just a smug retard.

Um... feds, by the way. He's not a fed. He's just a smug retard. Even Johnny may not be a fed.

His friend is, almost certainly.

He himself is just

he's being

pushed along you know

so

guerrillas you need to be

fighting the right battles.

It's not your fault.

But keep these facts of socialization in mind that are laws of human nature.

Because you guys really can drive people crazy.

You have that power.

Understand that you have that power to drive people crazy. Um, that doesn't mean you

relent and stop defending the party. It doesn't mean you relent and cease correcting the record.

It means when someone reaches out their hand in good faith, saying they no longer want to attack us, move on.

If we had our way, we wouldn't have to attack anyone.

We would just be positively building, building, building, building.

We're in this state now, this state state of war let's call it what it is

it's war information war sure i remember what i was told abroad you won't believe it what i was told you won't believe it what I was told

you won't believe it if I told you

some will laugh

that's okay I was told this

I was told

by people who were in actual physical battles

real wars they said they said this

information war happening it is fundamental and it has just as much stakes as the physical battles this was told to me by

people who were fighting physically now they weren't encouraging me or telling, they were just telling me objectively

how they appraised the significance of information warfare.

We are in a state of war. A legal war. We're following the law. There is still law and order. But it's war. We're under attack by people who have made it their goal to destroy us as a party. And this will not be forever. This will not last forever. It will come to a conclusion. But right now, we're in the

middle of an intense, intense battle and an intense war. This is a fact.

This is a fact.

There are many surprises in store for those who have decided to wage war against us and um they should also know it's not too late it's not too late to turn back it's not too late

to turn back and just if they disagree with us prove it practically by constructing your

own organizations and parties and strategies we won't

obstruct you you don't have to obstruct us we can have a culture of

polemical disagreement and that's it no need for slander no need for

making things up no need for slander, no need for making things up, no need for fabricating reality.

We have always left that door open.

We have always left the door open for principal disagreement.

It has never been the communist way to seek out war for war's own sake.

But alas, it has never been the communist way to shirk in front of the necessity of war.

And that necessity has imposed itself upon us because of the treachery of Dannyy shaw and his co-conspirators on january 17th we have We have never expressed fear of war

We have never indicated that we're unwilling to wage it and fight it

We're here and we're in it

Nothing new to me by the way We're here and we're in it.

Nothing new to me, by the way.

Nothing new for me.

Nothing new for me.

I want to tell everyone, if the guerrilla army is driving you crazy, you got to fucking imagine how tough those of us in the party are.

We've been here for years.

Anything you've been attacked, we've experienced much, much worse. We're numb numb to it now we yawn in the face of it now now we care about our party now it's the party's name that we care about not even our own name if we care

about our own name it's because it's downstream from the party,

because indirectly it to the end.

We will never stop fighting.

I will be buried six feet under the grave the day that I had ceased to fight for the American Communist Party.

This is nothing to me.

This is Dharma to me.

This is the flow of time. This is Dharma to me. This is the flow of time.

This is literally aionic Dharma.

This is the Tao.

This is simple.

This is riding the wave. it's all just extremely mundane for me also for kyle kyle what do you think

oh yeah i mean I've been in the communist movement officially since I was 18, so it's nothing new to me.

I've seen, just like you, I mean, we're the same age.

So we've seen the rise of social media and its implications uh when it comes

to these things and uh it's just a different battlefield it's the same battle really at the end of the

day that's true we'd be fighting either way. Zerwinnie, what's going on?

Our only regret...

Our only regret...

...is that we would like to be fighting only for the positive right now.

Either way, we're fighting. Either way, it's the same level of intensity it's just that now we have to

focus on things and push other things back it won't last forever by the way But it will last as long

as it needs to, to ensure the

victory of the American Communist Party.

Yeah, I mean, we're

constantly putting out positive content

and it's

they're detracting

from the

things like the the fact

that we were down there with the truckers in New Jersey

they detract from actual

that Richie's

that one of Richie's tweets

is proof we have a secret discord

where we're expressing

our real views and that we're all

actually Nazis.

They made this

openly, brazenly, actionable

claim because they think

there will be no legal consequences.

Yeah, I mean, Richie's not in the party. because they think there will be no legal consequences. Yeah.

I mean,

Richie's not in the party.

He is with the UDDA

and he's with the New Jersey Pier Facebook group.

I mean,

that's it.

We work with the actual...

How is it they're trying to connect that to Zoltanus and whatever he's doing and I don't even fucking know what he's doing?

Wow.

A guy who, by the way, the only connection to infrared is that I debated him.

And he's always had bad blood

for us.

Right.

You know, he's doing very bad things.

I can tell you that.

But we have nothing to do with the guy.

We're on opposite sides of the

battlefront. It's kind of ridiculous.

Yeah, but I mean, like, they're detracting from

the actual positive things

that we're doing, the actual real work they were doing that

is, which is ridiculous

to even try and combat the idea.

I mean, the claims they were making about the truckers in New Jersey,

they were trying to claim they're not even CDL drivers

and they're all scabs or something ridiculous.

I mean, it's like they don't even understand working class struggles.

Yeah, I mean, they make the

bosses argument for them.

They make the bosses argument for them, and then they

gets thousands of likes and views and everything

else. It's ridiculous.

They're objectively working

for the interests

of the of the

monopoly finance capital

isn't it curious these people started out

being in our community supposedly

right

every single position

they have come to adopt has been

directly in order to oppose us they have come to adopt has been directly in order to oppose

us. They have

no principles except opposing us.

So if we

went and organized Starbucks baristas

right now, they would condemn

Starbucks baristas.

Exactly.

If we came out in defense of transgender

toilets, they would

become turfs.

There is no position

they can consistently

maintain in a principled

way, except

opposing and throwing dirt on us.

Had we not

organized the Dreyage truckers and we

organized the different

truckers, they would have said

the same thing.

It has nothing to do with anything we do and everything to do with the fixed goal of attacking us.

And you mean to tell me that for four years, they've been doing it purely because they got bullied on Twitter by the guerrillas.

I don't buy it. These are feds. These are feds. Who the fuck does this full time except feds? Who is sitting back and doing this full time every minute of every hour of

their day doing this attacking us except feds you tell me how somebody lives their life for four

years doing this that isn't a fucking Fed.

Yeah, I mean, it's completely impossible.

And they not only have the ringleaders being the feds, But then they bring in all of the

gallable leftist types. We don't know

any better. You know, God help them.

And they bring them in. They groomed them in their cult,

which I've seen, you know, I'm in your

discord, guys. You know, they acknowledge that I have access to it.

It's their full-time job.

Exactly.

Exactly.

I mean, it's all they do.

I mean, every single hour.

I'm not legally advocating for this.

But to be completely honest, if so much of a headache for what, it's going to fail.

There's only one way to stop this. Even that wouldn't work. But you'd have to target me directly.

I would have to not exist anymore that's it

right and there's the same level

of commitment across the entire second

but that would that would do a lot more than anything they could do besides that.

That's it.

For as long as I'm breathing, they're not going to get their way.

It's the truth.

Every fiber of my being is dedicated to this cause.

There's not a single breath I take that right to self-defense.

That's why I have, of course, I i'm not advocating and i'm just saying how

ridiculous it is how ridiculous it is they think it's going to work supposedly so much hatred thousands supposedly hate us supposedly thousands i want everyone to remember the fact that not a single one of

them has the courage to confront me why not right i mean I also find it interesting that they somehow think that they can win because

the ringleaders of this have been at it for years.

They couldn't stop Midwestern Marx and Infrared getting together.

They couldn't stop the actual

creation of the party. How many

Ls do they have to be handed before they realize this is

all like futile? Only

somebody who is

literally a federal agent can be that

invested after that much defeat.

To continue going and just keep going every day, every single fucking day.

It's absurd. all of the forces of reaction have circled around the ACP, attacking it from all sides.

They want to crush us in the cradle, and they're going to realize how completely futile all of their efforts have been.

They're not going to succeed.

They're wasting their time.

And it's a complete shit show.

I mean, every single time they hype up

that they're gonna drop some big, big nuke,

ends up being a nothing burger, ends up being nothing.

And they get a bunch of likes and everything else.

But what does it do to any of our people?

What does it do to our ability to continue to succeed?

We continue.

It emboldens institutional gatekeepers to weaponize lies to scare people to associate with us scare people from associating with us oh look all this nazis on this paper nobody thinks rationally okay what, what's the connection?

They go, look, look, it's really scary, don't associate.

They think that sensationalism is somehow going to be an endgame strategy that will defeat us.

It's caused us roadblocks, and it's caused us us some issues but there are things that we can overcome

and are proving to overcome with time because if we continue to do the work and we continue to show

people what we're actually about they get curious by all of these deranged things that people say about us,

then they go and they do

a good portion of them go and actually look at our webpage.

They go look at the ACP main.

And they're confronted with reality.

And at that point they have to make a decision.

Is the guy who's screaming about this outlandish claim, which doesn't even make any sense,

and there's no actual rhyme or reason to it, and he made it completely counterclaim a week ago,

is that the truth or is it, you know, the truth I can verify with my own eyes

for the pictures of the work that they're doing on the ground? If people just operated with a modicum

of common sense, and I think a lot of people do, they see that it's all bullshit Kyle I remember when we were on the ground

that morning

with the huge chunk of the New York

and New Jersey chapters

and holy fuck

if you guys actually just get out there

and do the work

you'll fucking see what they're trying to stop

this is what they're trying to fucking stop

it's literally that simple

all this just to make you

discouraged from doing positive work just to discourage you from having the

confidence to get shit done confidence remember they want you to sit depressed on your couch or in bed thinking it's all futile

and that's the goal exactly and you, we go out there and every single trucker, every guy we're talking to loves it. They love it. They're begging for unions out there. They're begging for representation. They're fired.

Go ahead, Kyle.

...advocating for them on their behalf and actually talking to them.

Yeah, sorry, I keep getting phone calls.

But they're

inspired by what we're doing. They're inspired

that we're out there and that we're going to bat for them.

And they love it. And they're getting plugged in

and they're getting organized.

So it's just,

it's, they can't stop

it. When we go out and do the work, the people, the average American, loves it.

They want more of it.

So they're trying to, as you put it, like the gate keep.

They're trying to spoil our reputation they're trying to

crush us in the cradle we break through that and the sky is the limit it's over for them they have

nothing left because they have failed for decades with their rhetoric to actually get the working

class people on their side in any meaningful capacity, whether they be feds, the all-time

high hatred of the state, hatred of the institutions of the state or whether they be these

crazy leftists who have been in this bubble.

They have never made a penetration

into the working class of this country and they never will.

You want to know something?

Everyone is always so confused why I care.

I'll tell you the truth.

This is even to the haters that are supposedly leftist.

Not to sound cringe,

but it's the God honest

fucking truth,

and it's the only thing

that's going to make sense

if you want to understand

why we care so much.

I genuinely

I genuinely fucking care about these people.

As much as I struggle, as much as I want to hate, as much as I want to hate them, as much as I want to destroy them.

The thing, if anything, that bothers me is that I'm struggling to understand them because I genuinely do care.

I care about the people of this country in general. And I care about all those that have come to be inspired by Marxism and by communism.

Because that's my whole life and it's everything that I am.

It pains me the idea that there's even a single person out there who genuinely, genuinely and sincerely, is inspired by the communist tradition and by the ideas of Marxism,

and has been so misled and has had their mind so warped that for some reason they are compelled by hatred toward our party and trying to bring us down more than they are positively making a contribution to that history and that tradition. That genuinely bothers me because I can't relate to it. I don't even know where they're coming from. I don't understand it. I can't even

fathom how fucking miserable you have to be, to be in that state of mind. To not look at the moment

we are in world history and say, we communists need to stand up and do something.

How have you gotten to be so miserable?

How have you given up and taken such a such a toxic and poisonous black pill that you have dedicated your

existence to tearing us down who are trying who are human and therefore, but are trying with every fiber of our being,

we're trying.

How have you taken such a defeatist black pill that you are motivated to get up in the morning and hate and attack us,

while simultaneously maintaining the pretense of being inspired by Marxism,

in contradiction to the trends of society and the overall ideology of the hegemony.

I don't fucking get it.

And then I learn.

I learn the truth that Kyle already knows, therefore it doesn't bother him, that these people

were only ever interested in Marxism and in left-wing ideas because they were

they were they have been brought up in

institutionalized settings that

incentivize that and they are

socially incentivized

toward the adoption of these ideas.

And therefore, for them, it's not actually about the principles or the history or the cause and its inspiration to the human soul.

It's maintaining their standing within various different communities and institutions,

and that they're gatekeepers trying to prevent us from shaking things up.

I just wish these wicked, wicked people would repent and realize what they're fucking doing.

They are not committed to the tradition of marxism leninism they are not committed to the history of communism they are ferrisisees and gatekeepers who are terrified of the possibility that we are going to shake things up for their exclusive institutionalized and gate-kept communities.

Go ahead, Kyle.

No, exactly.

I couldn't agree more.

And that's why I wanted to bring up the trucking thing so much,

because it's literally the bare bones of what a Communist Party needs to be doing which is talking directly to the working

class of the country and organizing

them for their benefit

and they find

somehow in their

warped their warped

perception of these things

and I'm not just talking about

you know the long term haters

I'm talking about the people within that orbit

who exist

purely just at this point

now to tear us down but who genuinely

believe that they are the real Marxists,

you know, it's absurd on its face. How can you possibly go along with the idea that this is a bad thing

and actively discourage trucks? idea that this is a bad thing and

actively discourage

truckers from being organized.

I mean, it's disgusting. It's disgusting.

By the way, is anyone requesting?

We have, well,

the guy who wants to talk about BlackRock, who's

been requested for a while

and then we have one other person who is requesting which like me to bring them up

sure all right

Abdul go ahead.

Yeah, can you hear me?

Yeah.

So I have a question.

Why did you run away for me?

You're here now, so

I say what you want to say.

I don't know who are.

I don't know who you are.

As you know, and Jackson knows.

You invited me to a...

Oh, you're the guy in...

You're the Discord guy who's in Russia.

And we do an IRR stream

and that we debate.

I don't know. We were... I was so

busy, really. I was so busy, really.

I was.

Take off the undefeated tanky thing from your bio, then.

I took your honor.

All right.

All right, man.

Next time we're in Russia, we'll have for the community we'll do it for the community we'll have

the IRS I actually had a like an antique book

from Stalin for you

we're coming in the coming months we're going to be there so don't worry we'll we'll all we'll have the

iRL we'll do it for the community okay so yeah so that's a funny guy in our discord but um yeah um there was also a community legend

who

um

very old lore

very powerful lore

um legend from our community who old lore, very powerful lore,

um,

legend from our community,

who is in Lebanon.

And,

uh, we were going to meet up with them as well,

but we just didn't have time.

That's very,

I regret that a lot,

because I don't know if I'm going to be able to go to lebanon again

yeah the the one and only you know there was no time um

um but uh yeah Um, but, uh, yeah.

No, as we were saying, Kyle, it's, um,

yeah, it's, um, it's, um, it's, it's, um,, um, it's very unfortunate.

It's unfortunate.

I don't get it, though.

No, I, I think there's a deep pathology involved.

I mean, it's so personal for them.

It's so fucking personal. And I, that makes me very sad.

Because I wish they would understand, look, if it's personal for you, Haas' only personality, that's me, is this cause.

Anything else is not relevant to anyone. So, why take it personally? Don't you know that Haas, which is me by the way,

don't you know that Haas sees all mankind as equal? No one is better or worse. No one is superior

or inferior.

Everyone lives by the same grace and the same beneficence and mercy.

Stop trying to prove yourself and salvage your ego because you fought with the guerrilla.

Stop trying to salvage your standing.

Stop trying to defend yourself in my midst. Stop trying to prove yourself to me.

I already forgive you. And I see everyone is equal.

I have hatred for no one.

Literally no one.

Even Kyle doesn't have hatred for anyone.

He just understands

trash needs to be taken out

but it's not hatred

right Kyle it's not hatred

no I mean it's

it's not hatred

I don't

it's emotions hatred i i i don't it's it's emotions are are insignificant in that capacity i mean

if anything i i i feel pity it's it's really sad it's a sad situation that these people find

themselves in and i struggle to understand, you know, the, just complete lack of purpose you have to have in life to feel subjugated to that position.

Like I said, no hatred.

I think Bree is a miserable person. I feel bad for them big time.

I think Danny Shaw is a Cointel Pro Fed, to be fair. I think Danny Shaw is a coin till pro fed, to be fair.

I think he's a fed.

I think Brie is a very sad person.

I think, you know what I think of Brie?

I think Brie is crying all the time.

Honestly, I think Brie is like sitting by the window in the pouring rain and she's just crying.

She just goes to bed depressed.

And then she wakes up and anger is the only thing that makes her feel alive.

And she thinks herself as a victim.

Little does she know that all of this is a consequence of her

unjust aggression and malice and hostility against us.

She thinks she's going to get her revenge by destroying us.

If you're purely motivated by revenge, dig two graves.

That's what they say.

If it was me versus Bree, and she just wants revenge against me personally, maybe.

Maybe she could take me down.

She could take herself down.

Dig two graves.

The problem with Bree and all these other people motivated by revenge is that you're not just targeting another individual.

You're an individual who's targeting a historical principle.

You are acting in vain.

You may as well fight a hurricane or a typhoon or a tsunami.

You may as well fight a fucking earthquake or a tornado.

You may as well individually fight the very might of the heavens themselves you're not fighting hoss or kyle or any of these other personalities who you want to bring down.

You're fighting a principle of history, which is communism itself.

You're fighting the principle of a communist party, a collective, which is far more, far greater than the sum of its parts that is in vain that is an endeavor which will always be in vain you are motivated by something personal.

We are motivated by something impersonal.

That's a very simple distinction yeah i mean it was always interesting

seeing breeze development into you know this this position that they've now

gone with publicly because it was always motivated by petty individualist slights that were perceived to be against them. They had nothing to do with them. It was always the centering of the self and the individual and antagonism to the collective.

That's how the entire

friction arose in the first place.

While she was in the party,

she was attacking leadership

publicly on Twitter, personally, individually,

individually always, and from an individual

perspective.

But she may have been compromised. That's why she may be she's so

sad. You see,

she had those ties

with that Black Hammer guy right yeah she did so i i'm not sure that it was i don't think

i'm not sure to that but assuming that that's not the case, it always came from this individualist assertion that I am always right and what is subjective to me, it must be forwarded, and it must go at the expense of all other.

By the way, as far as what's coming,

the public has the right

to know.

Because if this was just personal, I would

have quit a long time ago and said, look,

you can feel like you want. I don't care.

We have to defend

our party.

Bree is not going to like what's coming.

Danny won't.

Neither will.

The groomers and the FBI informed.

None of them are going to like what's coming.

None of them are going to like what's about to drop.

Yeah, it's not even solely about defending the party.

Of course, that's the primary concern, but it's also about defending the public in some instances.

Absolutely. Absolutely.

It's about defending the public.

Defending the party and the public and the truth of course and they're going to act like victims but all we are doing is going ban for band always and that's the new protocol by the way we go

ban for band because we have so much that we don't share to the public so much they now try to threaten us with, you know, I don't even want to repeat the word.

It's such a bad word.

Boxing.

And that is unwise. that is very unwise very much unwise there's another request from this

abdul and oh they just be requested so ab, Abdul and the Black Rock guy.

Yeah, there was a third for a second

then they decided not to.

But, I mean, and they've gone

beyond just threatening

to release people's information

and releasing people's information in general,

which they've already done.

I mean, they've released my address, for example.

They've also gone into actual making assertions that, you know, calling for members' death

and actually calling for physical violence against members of the party.

I sometimes I pity it. I pity them.

But what's coming is coming.

Pity cannot get in the way of what must be done and that's the reality

if they unilaterally cease and desist between now and then and communicate to us that they're done they

they stop the bullshit they retract all the bullshit you know we'd be happy to go our, go our own way.

But I doubt that's going to happen.

So we're just going to move forward doing what we were going to do.

And that's why no one's a victim here.

You understand.

No one's a victim.

They chose to go down this path.

You want war with us.

Don't choose war with people who kind of enjoy it.

I hate saying that.

Don't choose war with someone

whose entire existence, whose entire lineage, is built for war.

Don't choose war with a man

who comes from mountain people

whose whole existence has been war.

Don't choose war with men

for whom it comes naturally.

This is not a state of exception for me.

This is a norm.

Additionally, the party's existence is to combat the class war in favor of the working class.

I mean, our entire organization is based on the

concept of war in one way shape. We have such great war

we expect and are ready to fight.

The class war, you just mentioned it. Why would you make yourself

the target why would you try to get in our

way and make yourself the target i don't get it you think you're going to deter us you what do you

think is going to happen i'm just so curious about, sometimes I'm curious, like, what do they think

will happen? What do they think will be the outcome? How do they think it's going to end?

No matter what, it won't end well for them by the way even if it didn't end well for us but maybe that's

what maybe it already has ended poorly for them because their life sucks.

They have no motivation.

They just want to drag us down to be like them.

So what's the point in defeating them?

Well, they have nothing to lose maybe.

We'll see. We'll see about that.

We'll see if they have nothing to lose. Because I kind of doubt that.

We have a new requester. Should i bring him up who is it sure

go ahead Go ahead, auxiliary.

Hello.

This is an alt.

Just wanted to reach out in good faith more known

my other account

Bolshevik noir

and

I just wanted to keep it

I don't want to hear this shit I just wanted to keep it.

I don't want to hear this shit.

I don't want to... I don't want to...

There's so many alts.

I don't fucking need to keep track of all this shit. well i find it funny that the ACP leaks account right now is still posting and listening to the stream, but I'm sorry, the space, but not coming in to actually held any debates.

They'd have to figure out which person is going to

become the public face of ACP leagues because

there's many.

Yeah, the main ones will definitely.

None of them will ever fucking show their voice

the whole reason they create these uh accounts like acp leagues is for the purpose of

trying in vain to shield themselves from, you know, litigation.

They're attempting some masquerque, you know, and it's ridiculous.

I mean, they genuinely think that they're untouchable so long as they use as fake account that they've created.

You know, it's, it's, it's very stupid. Let me, I'm going to check what they're saying.

They're saying, okay, here's the secret discord that they claimed is run by ACP, by the way.

So let's look at what this discord is.

Here it is.

What is this?

A guy named Comrade with Hebrew.

Imagine me changing my name.

Mid-Eastern...

We want to be mid-eastern Marx.

Who is this?

So, before anything, I don't fucking know who this is.

I don't know what this is.

How is it that the, forget shelve acp for a moment

how does

infrared how do

any of us run any of this

if we don't even

fucking know about

it how does ACP run it ACP don't even fucking know about it, how does ACP run it?

ACP doesn't even have a fucking discord.

Okay?

This is the same thing when Jason Unruh said there was a Haas chat.

And they made up those screenshots saying,

oh, we're going to coordinate against Jason.

I don't even know what the fuck this is.

I just find it ironic that we don't organize on Discord.

I'm even looking at the screenshots they shared.

I can't even find any Nazi content.

Where's the Nazi content they're talking about?

Where they express their true Nazi views?

Right.

Am I retarded for even responding to this?

Am I retarded for even saying anything about it instead of

handling it in court

where it needs to be handled? Because

this is crazy. I mean, I'm not, we're

not going to do this forever. It's going to be handled

in court. But

does anyone actually believe this is

what I'm really curious about?

That's all I want to know.

Is there a single person in the world who believes this?

They went from, ACP runs a secret Nazi discord.

We have no discords, by the way. It's a directly actionable defamatory claim. The ACP does not run any discords. Infrared has one discord. Midwestern Marx has a discord. Now they shared this

claiming it's a secret

Nazi discord. I can't

see anything

that has

anything to do with myself

or Midwestern Marx or anyone

in the leadership of ACP,

this is the first time I've even fucking seen it,

I don't even see any Nazi content in there.

What are they talking about?

They made the directionally actionable claim

that we are a rebrand of a Nazi party.

Kyle, I mean, or Kayla, I mean, I'm not going to...

Kayla, in your opinion,

you know, credentials aside,

do you think that's just a directly actionable claim to make,

saying that we're a rebrand of Zoltanius's party?

Absolutely.

When there's not a single one of the people who are responsible for reconstituting the CP USA into ACP,

that had any ties to Zoltanus at all or anything he's ever done or any of his organization,

whatever the fuck they're doing

look I mean

let them let them continue to

dig themselves into a deeper hole

but isn't that like a slam dunk

just direct defamation

that is absolutely defamation

with malicious intent. I mean,

it's clear as day, we're saving

all this information, and we're going to have

a field day with them in court. So,

they're just digging themselves in a deeper hole. They're

just giving us more ammunition as they're

going more and more, you know, unhinged

and deranged, because

nothing is sticking, their

lies just fall apart. So, and they're

making even more grandiose lies.

It makes it easier for us

to do our job, so let them go ahead and do it.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, I also was trying to point out, we don't organize on Discord, but I've already verified

directly, and they've acknowledged that fact, that they do organize on Discord.

It's just ridiculous. With minors, by the way.

With minors. With minors.

And then they appoint the

you know, guy who is

you know defending his

sale of pedophilic material

to children,

uh,

he's,

they make him in charge of vetting.

I mean,

the,

the shit rights itself.

I mean,

they couldn't make themselves more stupid and just,

you know, insidious to the average person.

They have admitted that they've been confronted with the fact that it's a lie and they double down that's all we really

needed that's all we really needed it also shows they have very low impulse control they're

listening to the stream probably

on an alt, one of their thousands of

alts because they have N.RQ.Rquest to speak.

Right, exactly.

And instead of coming up and talking

business and actually confronting us,

they have low impulse control and they have to

hide, and then they post through

ACP leaks

some shit in real time while

we're doing the space because they have no

ability to actually strategize, coordinate, or anything.

It's

pathetic. I mean, it's

truly pathetic. I mean, it's truly pathetic.

I mean,

it's,

this is,

this is the best they have to offer.

Where is the fabled big nukes?

Where are they?

Where are they?

What is,

what are they supposedly have that's so big?

Where is it?

There's nothing.

They have nothing. Hold on, hold on.

Apparently, the person, okay, apparently, so

it was a different username. How the fuck

should I know who that is? Apparently it's

Banana who runs this

Discord.

I don't know what this Discord is i don't see any evidence of nazi content in it by the way

and that's just banana we know who banana is so what is the evidence this?

What is the connection to Zoltanus?

What is the connection to all

these other things he's saying and Nazis?

But guys,

it's been, it's been,

he's saying, he's saying I'm lying

that I don't recognize that profile picture.

And I know who Banana is.

I don't fucking know what that username is because I'm not familiar with Banana running under that fucking username.

Banana is an IGG guy.

He's not even in ACP

though. Right, Kyle? He's not in, right?

He was

rejected from

cadre status multiple times.

Right, so he's not in. I mean,

not that he's like bad or anything.

He's not like a Nazi.

I mean, he's...

He's not bad, he's not a Zionist.

He's not a Nazi.

Um...

I think he has a Jewish background.

I could be wrong.

I don't fucking know.

Not that that would matter, but, like,

how is he a fucking Nazi or a Zionist or a what does he say he said

he said it's a Jewish nationalist how okay what I don't even know what that is.

He's quoting a guy talking about

Laura and Fauna in Colombia

in the post-Columbian rea.

What does this have to do with zionism i think he was

distraving bro is talking about plants this is nazism like what are they on hold on

banana was getting people to debate some

Zionists and they're saying that therefore

banana's a Zionist because he's Jewish

what?

Yeah well

We don't even know what is

What is what it

Do they even believe this or what?

No, they don't.

If a Jew debate Zionism, he's a Nazi, apparently.

Or a Zionist, I don't even know.

They showed some random name

in some foreign...

I think it was Hebrew.

Comrade something.

They go, this is...

I didn't even know who the fuck that was.

Then they click on their username and it says,

banana.

It's okay.

I know who banana is.

But... says banana is okay i know who banana is but what's what's the big reveal here what's the where's the secret nazism where's the evidence i have any connection to it what is this isn't the

first time me seeing this.

Imagine if they came here and confronted me and say, haze, we've got you. Look at this.

Where's the fucking evidence this has

anything to do with our party

or anything

moreover

what is even so like

what is the secret

they're talking about flora and fauna in

Columbia

right I guess they're talking about flora and fauna in Colombia right

I guess comrade

banana was somehow

a plenary member

he was on the plenary committee

somehow you know like

how does this link

is this evidence

of the claim they made that it's a rebrand?

Is this evidence that we're a rebrand of a Nazi party that Banana has a discord where he talks about flora and fauna that I don't even fucking know about? well

the feds aren't uh they're not getting their money's worth this is really pathetic i think

doge should investigate frankly the discretionary's funding at the fbi has gone off the rails

i mean it makes it very helpful for our litigation that they knowingly made false statements.

I mean, just the convolutedness of this all.

And it really does strengthen our defamation with malicious intent claim.

So it's really helpful for us.

But, you know, it is right. No, no, let them continue act like they don't...

Oh, we just thought, we just thought...

Well, we thought that banana was Haas.

We thought that banana was in the plenary committee or the Politburo or we thought

we thought it was a Nazi

server because

because they're talking

about flora and fauna

or we thought let them make that argument

let them make that argument it would be a great

argument for us because it's easily

verifiable facts. They can't, like, these are all public things that people know that this is not

the case. The, you know, the leadership is a publicly known thing. They know it. They're intimately

familiar. They point out. They're intimately familiar.

They point out people who are in leadership.

We didn't know, really.

They're going to, I guarantee you in court.

I guarantee fucking to you in the coming months, even if it takes years, there's going to be records of the litigation where their attorney

on their behalf of my client didn't know. They really didn't know. They really didn't know. I guarantee

you that's going to be their fucking defense. We didn't know it was a lie.

We were honest. We didn't know.

Everyone can fucking see.

We're telling you it's a lie.

We're giving you all of the reasoning necessary

for you to understand that you're lying

and you're still doing it. It's malicious

intent is so fucking clear. Doesn't even need to

be proven. We have evidence of the malicious intent on record. Anyway, I think that would have to be a

public defender because I don't know any attorney who would be willing to even stake the

claim of their reputation to defend this in court

because it's such an open and shut gaze.

But does

anyone actually believe it?

Is there anyone who would actually stake their

reputation in defense of this claim?

This lie.

Well, they can sit with the rest of the defendants.

Do they think this is going to deter us from dropping what's going to drop soon or what

no they don't have a rhyme or reason like i said this is low impulse control this is literally

you know gooner brain bullshit their mental faculties are

clearly not up to cut

look at their followers

very look at this verified followers

Ryan Morrow

from Newsmax

they have all of these actual zinists uh ustov s congressional briefer counterterrorism osirntz founder of the pro-P-P-PAC, incredible.

Mike Pellegrino, of course.

Isn't it incredible?

Isn't it incredible that they're, this is who they're working with in practice?

Michael Nickens, anti-communist, anti-corporatism, free market capitalist MAGA.

Wow.

But they're attacking us for supposedly being MAa because we're Maga communists.

I mean, it's fair to say you can associate Maga with us. That's fair.

Not with ACP necessarily, but with infrared, sure.

We pioneered Maga communism.

But if that's the hill, you're claiming to die on that,

that's why you're attacking us.

Look at the people following it.

It's all the fucking Zionists that are after Jackson, me, and Chris for attending

Nisrello's funeral. So the

hypocrisy is fascinating.

But am I

retarded for focusing on this in any capacity

at all? That's the real question.

I think that the evidence really will do the heavy lifting, which should be coming soon.

And as they come after lower level rank and file members i mean the threshold no their latest

thing they're saying if this is such a slam dunk file the summons tonight

do they not understand how poor procedure works they don't think it's going to happen that's what it is

they don't think they know they're guilty definitely they know that they would have no fucking

standing but they genuinely have convinced and hyped themselves up with this illusion that we're not going to

fucking go through with it which is why i cannot wait until the look on their face dawns upon

them that we actually are that is all i need how in are.

That is all I need, frankly.

How incompetent they are. They think it's not happening.

Perfect.

Perfect.

Good luck.

Good luck.

Good luck. We'll see.

Dale Gribble has requested.

Bring them up Failure, live. You got to unmute. You got to unmute yourself, Guy.

Hey. Hello. Hey Hello

I

I just read the leak

I just read their leaks

and it's kind of funny since I'm actually

in the same server as banana

and it seems I'm actually on the same server as banana.

It seems rather odd because it seems like what he's trying to do is effectively at least from the understanding I'm getting is trying to separate

the idea of Zionism.

The ideas of

Zionism from Judaism.

At least from

some of the...

I mean, that's all very clear.

That's all very clear. That's all very clear.

I love how they're constantly dropping Zoltanis' real name to make it seem like, oh, this is definitely.

They did the same shit at Emory.

They're like the CIA whatever fucking anarchists that were there that printed

Johnny's lies, because Johnny's the one who pioneers

is like, this guy Shandon,

Sandin, whatever the fuck.

Like this somehow, just because you say his real name,

that means it's associated with us in any fucking way at all.

By the way, Alex Dillard is our website guy since when?

I was, I actually, actually see even I'm Vic I was thinking oh is he now working on our website

somehow where did that even come from Where did that even fucking come from?

I don't even know if that guy's cadre i i you know it's also interesting that you just

pointed out there's all these you know zionist accounts following acp leaks and they they're attacking a discord group where a Jewish guy is trying to say, hey, you know, Zionism isn't about Judaism, and somehow this is a Nazi server or something? Like, is that not just the most bare bones basic as ianist talking point what i don't

understand is how is it they go from apparently they find

someone in the party

who's

new Zoltain

I don't even fucking know

that's the creepy thing

I don't even know

what the fuck they're talking about

and then they go

the whole party

is a rebrand of Zoltanus's organization.

What, how do you get from A to B?

What connection to Zoltanus does anyone who's in any position of leadership within our party

have or have ever had?

I'm sure they're lying about Alex, too, by the way. He's just not here to defend himself.

I'm sure they're fucking lying about him.

So maybe he'll want to be roped in.

I don't fucking know.

That's the thing I don't fucking know his specific case

I just know about what the American

Communist Party is

it's weird also because

Zoltaneous is somebody

who directly opposes us.

So he's a fucking op.

Yeah.

Why are we being associated with our own fucking ops?

This is like if somebody, there's more relations,

ACP has to fucking

Andrew Saturn

than that guy

that guy Andrew

was in the infrared

community before

not Zoltanus so the guy behind the leeks account by the way it is Andrew spoiler

he has more of a tangible connection to the ACP through infrared than anything Zoltanus.

You go, you guys didn't know that?

It's him?

I thought everyone was clear about that.

Absolutely, it's him. you know what's so fucking stupid brie is the one who's uh one of the people that mediate the leaks on Shaw's behalf, all you have to do is show a picture of Bree at our, like, look, connect the dots.

Bree is literally has a direct connection to our party.

Is that immaterial?

If we're supposedly Nazis and anyone because the logic is anyone who associates with us is a Nazi right so the people behind this very same account that's attacking us,

using the same logic, they are Nazis by association. How fucking stupid is this logic? You know, You know, It should is so boring.

Yeah.

Dale, do you have anything else to add?

Not too much. I mainly want to come on

to just give some context

and since I kind of know

banana

just try to give his side of the story

I'm always so creeped out by these fucking feds because they're always like they know so much about these fucking Nazis.

Kyle, how much do I fucking know about Zoltanus besides the fact that I fucking debated him once and he's an op?

He doesn't like us.

You think I keep up with all this fucking lore

on these Nazis or whatever

and I have all these...

No.

So these creepy crawly

fucking cockroaches, they're always

like, it's like almost like

they're fucking sharing like like they're fucking sharing something really disgusting.

Like, what is this?

They're like, oh, look at all these different fucking things you've never seen in your life

and know nothing about.

And this is, your party is a rebrand of this.

Well, yeah, I mean, it's my job to have to keep up with these individuals.

And, you know, I do.

And that's also why I know

just on its face, it's ridiculous.

Because I know what Shandon Simpson's up to.

I know what fucking, you know, all these

individuals are up to.

And it's ridiculous.

It's ridiculous what they propose.

They don't even know enough to know.

All I know is he's an op.

He's a massive op, and he's doing all types of crazy shit.

It's directly against us.

And he's aligned with people who are directly against us.

From the 2010s under Trump's

first term,

with all these creepy,

weird,

glowy shit that only feds

themselves fucking know about.

That they're constantly trying

to like associate with me or the party or infrared and i it just creeps me

the fuck out i literally let's see it this if you just see like a spider on your floor randomly it's

the same shit weird creepy fucks telling on themselves about how much they're into

this dark criminal world of creepy fucks.

God forbid I debate a guy twice or once. I don't fucking know.

And then he becomes

an op who fucking hates me. And I

know nothing else about him.

Because you know why? Because

I don't find Nazism interesting. Neoism it's not interesting to me there's

nothing about it that's interesting to me because the american neo nazi movement is fundamentally

uninteresting.

It is just criminals who do

crystal meth.

What else?

Kyle,

what else?

They do meth

and then what else?

And fentanyl.

Well,

they have good

relationships

with certain Ukrainian battalions. know oh yeah that that's the only part

that's the only part worth investigating because there's something tangible there but right what is the

significance of a they yeah they they they they groom uh children as well which is something

that anti-ecep has in common just criminals just lumping criminals exactly the literal humansum and their feds all feds am i wrong right well

no i mean they're there they're literally i can say in some instances one degree of separation

from actual federal agents, verifiably.

I feel like fucking... I feel like the...

You know, people say we're feds.

I feel like David Lynch and Twin Peaks, his character.

What is it?

Commissioner Gordon.

Not Gordon.

What's David Lynch's name in Twin Peaks?

What is it again?

Director.

Director what? Someone in chat, quick. director director what

someone in chat quick

director Gordon

I feel like him when he sees that weird thing

he's like what the hell

in Twin Peaks to return

I'm like

what is this?

I don't,

you know,

Gordon Cole is aware about a,

he knows there's a lot of weird shit that happens,

but he doesn't focus on it.

He's like,

this is a good cup of coffee,

or this is this nice,

he's smiling,

he's, he's having a good day you only should know about this shit if you really fucking have to okay anyone who spends their time

you know embarking upon this dark world and being basking in this dark world.

You're a fucking freak in my eyes.

And you are, that you are yourself.

You are yourself part of that world.

You fed fucking glowy

weirdo.

Yeah, I get

continuously disgusted.

It's the least appealing

as part of my job

having to...

What is this shit? See how these people are yeah god i mean yeah i it's

disturbing to even have to see from a distance literally, you know, like, they're super into the fucking occult and all this crazy shit.

It's, it's objectively disgusting. Yeah.

Anyway, guys, I think we're going to wrap it up here.

We've got some stuff to work on and prepare.

So, we'll see you guys when we got to see you.

And stay vigilant.

Continue fighting the disinformation and stay on the lookout um anyway see you all later goodbye

your orders are to stay on your toes and get ready later. Goodbye.

Your orders are to stay on your toes and get ready for orders because we're in the state of war.

So get ready.

All right.

Anything else I got to quickly talk about?

No, I think that's it.

All right, guys, we're going to sign off.

See y'all next time.