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2023-10-13T01:18:43+00:00
Infrared show.
Where we are going to Kenham early, aren't I?
I told you I'd be early, and I am.
It's as simple as that.
It's as simple as that.
I told you I'd be early, and I am.
Here I am.
Early as can be, and here you are.
And now we are going to cover
all the events that have happened since the last stream.
And in particular, we're going to have an update on the Beheaded Babies saga.
With Ben Shapiro's involvement of course, because he just added a uh a new layer of bullshit on this whole thing.
Which I find so cynical.
It's actually pretty spooky, as in spooky in the Halloween season.
It's pretty fucking scary how cynical Ben Shapiro is posting photos of an AI generated image and claiming it's proof that Hamas decapitated babies, even though said image is not even a decapitated baby.
It's incredible.
It's incredible.
The deca the the decapitated baby story will live on um through the annals of history as an example of retarded people buying nonsense.
With the consequence I mean, the consequences are there either way, but a lot of people who would otherwise have looked upon the brutality
The hideousness and the evil of the Israelis in Gaza,
They think it's somehow justified as a form of retaliation, even though they don't even know that the story that the stories they're telling about Hamas are complete bullshit.
They're just they're just hoping that you think that Hamas are like not even human.
The dehumanized them to such an extent
that anyone will buy into this nonsense and just assume that, oh, of course, Hamas it's Hamas, aren't they?
They're the they're really scary, they have beards, they're Arabs and they're angry.
They're not like us, they're uncivilized, unlike the Israelis, of course, whose form of being civilized
involves the most meticulous forms of sadism, torture, and brutality upon innocent civilians.
But in any case, we're gonna get into it and talk about it.
In particular, I think what I'm gonna do is go into this Syrian girl space.
Thank you so much, PJ.
Thank you, PJ.
Good to see you.
And I I'm hoping to start doing earlier streams because uh I know it's been difficult for you to catch these ones.
But uh tomorrow I don't think I'm gonna be streaming.
If I stream tomorrow I won't stream Saturday.
So I'll let you guys know.
I might I might stream tomorrow, FYI.
If I stream tomorrow, I am streaming at like 1 p.m.
or 2 p.m.
or 4 p.m.
latest.
After 4 p.m., if I'm not streaming tomorrow, just assume I'm not streaming.
But uh I plan on doing a really early stream tomorrow.
But uh yeah, we're gonna be talking about the uh the conflict.
And I'd like to get into Syrian Girl space.
If they can bring me up.
Um that would be great.
I'm gonna I'm gonna go in there.
And I'm gonna see if they'll bring me up.
Let's see.
Okay, let's see.
I'm the writer of Nine Eleven Missing Links, the only film.
I'm the writer of Nine Eleven Let me tell you who I am.
I'm the writer of Nine Eleven Missing Links.
I've only been in one of your space.
I don't know mid nine eleven.
A point of order, everyone.
Okay?
Sorry.
So look, there's gonna be rabbis that say a lot of stupid shit, but we shouldn't we shouldn't amplify them.
We should amplify the rabbis that are saying the good things, like the anti-Zionist Jews.
Why would we want to amplify um like people who are not only rabid but uh also will cause anti-Semitism, which is definitely not in our interest, because anti-Semitism is also one of the things the reasons that Israel was able to be promoted in the first place.
So like I you can you know, we can post rabbis that say crazy shit and yeah, they maybe exactly like the Wahhabis that promote ISIS and tell people to go, you know, raid Syrian villages, but at the same time, if we're gonna do that, we have to also show the other rabbis, right?
Like I see I see you seeing a hundred percent, so thank you.
So guys, like we don't wanna be end up a fight I I didn't see you on the space Canverse, I did see um I don't know if he's still here, I think he may have left see that's the problem with things getting out of hand and people just just just don't want to be part of it.
And there was a guy that I invited to speak, he was on the space, so I really wanted to hear from him too, um, but he's gone now.
So we're g I'm gonna give you guys a chance to say what you want with for one second.
Didi, I'm gonna go first with you because your voice is a bit softer and then we'll go with Canverse and then we'll go back to you.
Very quickly though, very quickly.
And Didi, can you please tell us what the link is?
I'm actually curious, 'cause I I don't know what the conflict's about.
Sure, and also can you guys show me how the CIA was tracking you and how uh what's the m call it magic?
No debates are going on Israelis.
Uh just Okay, so we we'll come back if they're still doing it, but it doesn't look like any debates are going on.
It looks like there's just uh people talking about whatever they want to talk about.
It's got nothing to do with me.
But anyway, let's get into the first thing.
So, this is a trigger warning.
This is a really disturbing image.
Uh but it is AI generated so I have no problem showing it to you.
So this is cynical.
So he said You wanted pictorial proof of dead Jewish babies?
Here it is, you pathetic Jew haters
Okay, so
He really thought this would be like enough to justify killing like a hundred thousand children in Gaza.
But community notes flag this as AI generated.
And if this is actually a baby, that would be horrible, right?
That'd be horrific.
But
Since what's at stake in this case is the safety of Gazan children, children in general, we're gonna need a little more than this, Ben Shapiro, to corroborate the crazy fucking claim that.
Hold on, Syrian girl got back to me.
Give me a sec.
Oh, I'll just I'll wait.
To corroborate the crazy claim
That uh
40 babies were decapitated.
You're going to need actual proof, actual confirmations.
All right.
Now, I don't know if you were hoping you're going to pull people's heartstrings showing an AI-generated image of.
I mean, what is this?
I mean, what is this, right?
This isn't.
There's no telling what this even is, okay?
This is just cynical.
This is disgusting and cynical on Ben Shapiro's part.
I mean, what are you trying to say, right?
Are we supposed to, we're supposed to look at that and then just supposed to shut us up?
That's going to corroborate.
I mean, first of all, who said they were burning babies?
Where did that come from?
I thought they decapitated babies.
Who said they were burning babies?
That's a new thing.
But apparently they are
Okay, she sent me an invite.
Give me a second.
Uh, Syrian girl did invite me.
All right.
I had a lot of uh I have close, close friends, Syrian Jews.
They live in New York, but they visit Syria every every summer.
They were essential in our fight against terrorism, to be honest.
They were and Israel uh intervention in Syria and their support for terrorism.
Uh I don't think if they want me to say the names here, but one of them he was vocal about his support for the Syrian government and he is Jew, he went to the Knesset in uh uh in uh Damascus, he visited, he gave his Jewish Syrian voice to support his government, and that was very helpful for a lot for in a lot of cases for us.
I notice we have a lot of uh pro like almo or neutral Arabs in this space when it comes to the Zionist entity, but we don't really have many anti Zionist Jews at all.
So I think I'm gonna recommend some.
Me
Wait, I can't hear anything.
I'm a speaker now.
Thank you, Suyam.
Thank you, everybody.
My pleasure.
But by the way, guys, there is a second space run by Khaleesi and Suleiman.
So we should probably merge with that space till we have three thousand songs.
Let's do it.
Yes, how do we do it, though?
But you guys want to finish talking about it?
We can't.
Wait, wait, wait.
Can I just respond before we all do that?
Because I'm not going to be able to do it over there anyway.
Yeah, exactly.
Let's do all of that.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Are you guys talking about Khaleeshi?
Khaleeshi?
Yeah, yeah.
No, that has this Solomon guy.
Like, they're just grifters trying to get followers, man.
And I think our space is bigger.
Right?
I strongly recommend, Syrian Girl, if you don't mind, that you continue to at least here and there do your own.
I know that, you know, the people who are genuine in this movement, they don't really want the, I mean, they don't really care about the followers, the money.
I don't, you know, monetization.
I mean, that's borderline impossible for some of us.
So I think that it would be nice to have open spaces where people have this dialogue.
I really appreciate what she just said.
First of all, Didi, thank you.
Is your name Sarah?
I guess I'll call you Sarah.
Thank you for any contribution you've made to preventing any death on our side, creating bonds, healing wounds, any of that.
I don't aim to create further division.
I do have a perspective.
I've been informed by 20 years in this space.
This guy loves Yapith.
I do recognize that there have been a lot of individuals who have had to give up their life.
Paul Wellstone is another big one.
He fought against the Iraq war and he was murdered for it.
And there have been some of those individuals.
Mordecai Venunu exposed to the world that the Israeli entity had built up a nuclear stockpile and they've treated him probably worse than any Palestinian that they've ever had.
Based on my research in the religion, they actually have the ability to mistreat their own far more simply because if they are called treasonous by the collective, right, by a rabbinical council, a Sanhedrin type, they are going to get treated far worse because exposing some of the secrets that come from these very hidden places.
I think this is a JQ guy.
Pretty sure this is a JQ guy.
So he's just schizo yapping.
He's just schizo yapping about yeah.
Um, I had a lot of roles to play in this movement, and um, but the more I've researched, I used to be exactly like you and saying, Hey, it's all about Zionism, it's all about Zionism.
But when you look at the transformer issue, and I'm saying that word because I can't say the other word, I don't want to get anyone in trouble.
Uh, if you look at the LGBTQ agenda, if you look at so many of these other things, they're very overrepresented, and you can't really blame it on Zionism.
Zionism is about 120 years old, they were colonizing Palestine in the 1870s.
Also, Naturi Karta, which is the most famous anti-Zionist group, they were actually born.
This guy's like, No, it's not about Zionism, it's about Jews.
Straight up yip yapping.
Nobody cares about this gay nonsense.
Straight up yip yapping about nonsense.
Schizo yip yapping.
He's like, no, we can't talk about the we can't talk about the Mukama, we can't talk about the actual resistance.
We have to talk about this s nonsense schizo yip yap about Jews in general.
Yeah, this is for like straight up low IQ retards.
Unfortunately, there are a lot of people who not only grift, but you know, definitely deceive people when it comes to certain things.
So I think just having open conversations is the most important thing.
And I apologize if I offended you in any way with anything I've said, but Israel definitely had a massive role to play in 9/11 and 5 million Muslims died in the aftermath.
And that Hasbarah is continuing.
And now they're doing it again live, and everyone gets to see it.
They're not even ashamed to put AI out there.
They're not ashamed to update Wikipedia over a certain number of hours and change the entire narrative.
And then we're constantly pushing back on it.
So to have someone on like me, two standard deviations to the right of everyone here, is going to be important for you guys as well to create the room for you guys to breathe because they're criminalizing the Palestinian flag.
You know, the Western Zogs have totally been castrated and there's not a single politician that's willing to speak up.
The people who doxxed me, by the way, and just to show you how above the target I am, are the same people.
Oh my God.
This is like, this is why I hate Twitter spaces.
It's like one schizo retard takes over everything.
Starts, dude.
He won't shut up.
He's been talking.
He's been yip yapping this whole time.
Dude, shut the fuck up.
We want to talk about geopolitics.
And he's talking about Zog.
Yeah, the Zionist occupation government.
It's so stupid.
You were our big, big speaker, so please tell us what you want to say.
One other thing, let me jump in real quick.
I know you mentioned the FBI.
I think this is a really crucial point.
There's no other activist group that actually trained the FBI in how to handle terrorism and things like that other than the ADL.
And they have said that they have trained 100% of FBI agents since 2001.
It was on the ADL page in 2019.
And so that you mentioned the FBI, these are the kinds of people that my close friend that I was mentioning, Jonathan Azaziah, they are the ones who just as a favor to international Zionism put him away in a gulag for a while in order to silence him.
His website was down for a year and a half, and nobody knows.
Nobody knows that story.
So I just wanted to reiterate that we're up against a really powerful force.
And certain parts of the conversation, though uncomfortable, they're going to be necessary in order to move forward peacefully.
Well, I kind of try to check my LinkedIn guys, I don't really use LinkedIn.
I kind of want to see where can I find out if the CIA is looking o out my uh account.
I'll message you in the backturn.
I usually get an email like where people work, the ones who saw me where they work.
So I the last thing I posted on Instagram story, I'm gonna search and find it.
It was CIA.
It was so weird.
Yeah, but I you know, I need to find out where they do I look at your stuff.
But I wanted to talk about the CIA guys in the in the space.
Like there's two guys from the CIA in the space and I just think that that's weird.
But um, Haz and Mike, you wanna wanna take the mic?
Yeah, can you hear me well or I'm on desktop, so just wanna make sure it works.
Oh, before I go, before I go, one last thing I want to say about a new got is what I want to call her, or no go, or whatever.
She always, always leaves her mic.
If you notice, if you observe, she never cuts off her mic.
She never mutes her mic.
So always open.
She's ready to jump.
That's she's got like seconds.
You know, she doesn't even need to wait.
She makes the breaking news come a split second faster.
Indeed, indeed.
Also, as I hear you has.
Yes, we hear you, Haas.
Go ahead.
Yeah, um, no, I just wanted to say, I think it's important to keep perspective that this uh to keep a geopolitical perspective.
And what I mean by that is that a lot of people tend to lose the regional perspective.
Not only the regional perspective, but the other dynamic, which is this is, I think, a little bit different from the previous conflicts because there's a because with the Russian special military operation last year, the kind of struggle between unipolarity, right, the American empire, and the regional polls that are emerging is kind of coming to a head.
And although it might seem like this is just kind of some local skirmish.
Between Palestinian militants and the IDF, this is a new front line for the uh struggle against the unipolar world order.
And uh, I think people need to appreciate the fact that, for example, um, obviously Russia and China are taking a neutral stance in practice, but just their words and their comments on the matter, as well as if we believe the revelations by the uh Hamas gentleman who was interviewed, who where he said that you know the Russians sympathize with what Hamas is doing in private.
So and and this that's significant because um Russia had has always had an ambiguous relationship to the Zionist entity.
But after the Syrian civil war, uh my prediction is that Russia will rather side with Syria as its strongest ally in the region over Israel when push comes to shove.
And we've seen that also with uh condemnations of Israel strikes on the Syrian airport.
But, you know, as far as the regional significance of what's going on, a lot of people think this is just about only Palestinians versus Israel.
But and then and then everyone's trying to make it seem like, okay, well, Israel has the moral right to do this or that, ignoring the fact that this isn't about morality.
This isn't about who's the this isn't about Israel being stronger and having to be the bigger guy.
I mean, Israel isn't the bigger guy in this situation.
You know, it may seem this way if you're only focusing on Hamas, but my view is that the Mukauma has more than what's necessary to wipe the Zionist entity off the map at this point.
And I think that when Hezbollah does get involved, I do think, you know, I could be wrong.
I do think it's a matter of when at this point.
We might seriously witness the end of the Zionist entity in our lifetime.
But maybe I'm too optimistic.
In in viewing that
No, I think you're right.
In fact, they're very scared of the ground invasion and they've suffered loss after loss in southern Lebanon and in Gaza and in Jenin whenever they enter directly because of their awareness of urban warfare, because they're under the rubble, because they've got tunnels, they've got coronets, they're blowing away tanks.
These people are, I think, posturing when it comes to a ground invasion.
In fact, I think that they're probably going to ask mercenaries, the Europe, America, etc., to try to do it for them, which wouldn't surprise anyone, despite the chutzpah.
I want to ask Hadi here, because I keep hearing conflicting accounts.
Is it true that Hezbollah has confirmed that their red line is a ground invasion of Gaza, that if that happens they're going to open a front, or is that just a rumor?
That's just speculations.
And Hezbollah, during their official statement, they didn't specifically say ground invasion.
They said that they are watching the situation closely and they warned from any further escalation.
So by further escalation, people were saying it means a ground invasion.
So I think that's where it came from.
But there was no official anything about and I I think from I believe that soon there's gonna be an announcement that say Hassan Nasalah will make a speech and that's when we will know everything from him.
Okay, yeah, that's good to know because I'd be very shocked if they don't get involved this time around.
I mean, if if what Nanyahu is saying is correct, that they intend to level Gaza and completely wipe out Hamas I mean I know he's said he said that before, but if it's serious this time, I can't if the Mukama loses this kind of uh point strategically, I mean, I don't see how that kind of could that could survive.
I can assure you that Iran and Hezbollah will and Syria will never let Hamas be just eradicated like that.
And that's not possible.
They've been there's a lot of Zionists, they've been speaking like it's like fantasy, you know, oh, we're gonna drop bombs, we're gonna eliminate it doesn't work that way.
Twenty-six, they tried that with Hezbollah.
I mean, my village alone, eighty-five percent of the homes were leveled to the ground.
Southern suburb of Beirut, which is a stronghold of Hezbollah, not one building survived.
It's an entire city that's destroyed, erased from the map.
Nothing happened.
They couldn't you cannot remove a national resistance from its indigenous land.
That's impossible, especially with bombs and destroying buildings.
Israel thinks that, but it never works with them.
They tried it with the PLO, but PLO was not indigenous to Lebanon.
They had to leave.
But what came after the PLO?
Hezbollah.
So if you look at historical experiences, Israel never actually won a war trying to eliminate a resistance movement.
Yeah, I'm I'm not so worried about Israel when it comes to if Hezbollah gets involved.
What worries me is the possibility of US involvement because you know in that case, we're looking at I mean I can't see how that's not World War III, right?
I don't know.
I mean would Russia really sit back and allow the US to intervene at a certain point of you know I don't know.
Maybe they would and they would do it.
The US intervention against Hezbollah it could be possible, but it's kind of like as far as well because Lebanon is too complicated.
Lebanon it's not Lebanon that has Hezbollah.
Lebanon is different groups, different and it has a very what do you call it specific strategic role for America and for Iran and for Russia and for everyone basically because of its position.
And I don't think America will America knows if they attack Lebanon, it's not like attacking Iraq.
It's kinda it's gonna be different.
S Lebanon if if if they attack Hezbollah, Syria's not gonna stay silent because they know they're gonna be next.
Iran's not gonna be stay silent.
That will threaten Russia's interest in Syria and they're gonna get involved.
And I'm pretty sure they have already enough on their hands in Ukraine, the West.
So I don't think they're gonna them trying to escalate to that point.
I'm also curious if anyone knows the state of Israeli stockpiles and ammunition, because they're asking U.S.
for ammunition and we're delivering ammunition to them recently.
Are we going to be looking at a situation like Ukraine where the US is going to have to constantly refill their arsenals?
And at what point do we reach a limit?
Because I don't know if you guys saw, but the White House just said they're at the end of the rope as far as their ability to aid Ukraine.
Well, you know that the pockets are deep for Israel, number one.
And we're also kind of obligated to keep their stupid iron dome stockpiled, which those missiles aren't really that expensive, surprisingly.
They won't give us the exact price, but I think that they said the high end is $100,000.
So we're just restocking their Iron Dome over and over and over again, as far as I know.
Plus, I think that's for the United States.
I used to serve in the United States military.
We could talk about that another time.
But I'll apologize to everybody, first and foremost.
But we're using our own weapons.
Well, they're not going to use their own weapons off those carriers.
Those are not stockpiles.
Those are our reserves.
So we have like a stockpile that's separate for when we want to start proxy wars.
We use those, but these are our stockpiles.
These are slated.
So I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry, it was an accident, please continue.
No, no, please, no, I I I just I was I'm actually literally falling asleep and my face pushed the button, so I apologize, please continue.
No, I'm done.
Go ahead, Vaughn.
And Vaughn, check your messages.
Oh, we'll do.
No, no, it's because I have I well I started space on the other thing at four AM and so it's been six hours straight, but like I definitely wanted to hear more about the stock part of
Uh right, so um about um arming uh i Israel and uh the end of the rope speech, uh there's a growing faction in uh US government that you know has been looking for an off ramp uh where Ukraine's concerned uh concern, and this is a perfect off ramp for that.
And if there's one thing that both parties can agree on,
It's Israel.
They love Israel.
They'll do anything for Israel.
We know how powerful the lobby is.
Um so yeah, the uh the uh the US it's entirely possible that if shit gets hot that uh the US just perpetually funds uh diverts all that funding to uh to Israel.
And that shouldn't be surprising.
That's I mean
Like I said, it's the only, it's literally the only thing they agree on.
So, not to be too optimistic, but speaking to the domestic situation here in relation to that, if you guys remember back in 2016 or 2015, Trump wasn't really pro-Russia, right?
Neither was his base.
They were very ambivalent, right?
They were talking about ISIS and stuff, but I wouldn't say he was pro-Russia, but because the media kept saying that he was pro-Russia, eventually they started getting skeptical and it stuck.
And now it seems all the Zionist donors and lobbyists are going over to other Republican candidates like DeSantis.
And, you know, Trump, his intentions are horrible, obviously.
And he did participate in the killing of Soleimani, of course.
But in terms of within the long-standing sympathy that Americans have for Israel and the funding of Israel, I wonder if we could see a situation where if we start funding Israel so much and getting so involved, if this could be a kind of watershed moment for Israel to be regarded in a similar way that Ukraine is by large parts of the U.S.
public.
Again, I remember how these rifts emerge where he'll say things, and this is not even what he means, but the media accuses that of him anyway, and then eventually they just roll with it, right?
So I wonder how possible it is that we could see a breakdown within, I mean, that would be very optimistic to expect.
We all know that all the politicians are captured by Zionism, you know, and it's not the same as Ukraine, but that's an observation I wanted to make, you know, because that speech he just gave where you know he called Hezbollah smart and he said he wants Netanyahu to be impeached.
Obviously, he's not becoming an anti-Zionist ideologically, but could this uh could this be an opening for his supporters to uh can I say something about that before Joe as well?
Yeah, yeah, sure.
I think that he is the most vindictive man in the world and he is so it's all about him, okay, it's all about his own power.
And he wants to get Netanyahu back because when they were counting the votes uh and they were protesting outside of the thing in january sixth, Netanyahu was one of the first people to recognize Biden as the new president and basically Trump saw that as being stabbed in the back.
So he couldn't wait to give it back to Netanyahu the same way that he gave it to him.
I still think he's gonna be a hardcore Zionist, but the nice thing about Trump, which all the other Presidents of America don't have, is that he likes himself more than he likes Zionists.
The other ones are all slaves.
So Haz Joah, take it away.
Yeah, I just think it's unfortunate in the US because the anti-Zionist position, um, you know, I saw recently there's been this kind of I don't want to get too much into US domestic discourse or whatever, but it's like we saw, for example, this stupid claim that's being made that like, oh, uh, what they're what they do to Israeli settlers and when they talk about liberating Palestine, they really mean killing white Americans because they're also colonizers.
And it's like drawing that kind of equivalence is what's gonna get a lot of people who otherwise wouldn't to be on board with intervening on Israel's behalf and possessing sympathy for the Zionist entity.
And that's why the ISIS narrative is so important, because when they realize that it's the Jewish state in the Levant, it's the Jewish ISIS, the whole thing will spin in their head.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I think, you know, I think you the Ukraine, I mean, the most successful example of Americans becoming disillusioned with the war machine in the 21st century, I think, in a politically charged way, I think was the opposition to funding for Ukraine.
I mean, in this case, you had, unlike the Iraq war protest, this wasn't just a protest movement.
This was an overwhelming consensus by one part of the American electorate, at least, that we should just not be involved, we shouldn't fund it, we should have nothing to do with it.
And this was, I think this is kind of unprecedented because the anti-war movement in the U.S.
has always been kind of liberal, leftist in a way, and just kind of based in morality and kind of a form of activism and humanitarianism.
Never really linked up with concrete interests of the American people.
And I think we should look to Ukraine as an example for countering Zionist propaganda in the States and, you know, to do the best that's possible as far as information, spreading of information is concerned, for non-intervention.
It's not enough simply to say that Israel is an immoral and criminal state, right?
Obviously, we know this is true.
It's also necessary to point out that they're leeches, right?
They're taking our tax dollars and they're getting us involved and roping us into conflicts that from a concrete perspective are simply not in our interest to be involved in.
And, you know, the whole activist humanitarian angle, when they start saying, oh, yeah, this is what they want to do to white Americans and call them settlers, at that point it's a disaster because you're drawing a moral equivalence between the Zionist entity and, you know, normal Americans here.
And that would be that that's the best thing the Zionists could ask for, right?
As if they're in the same boat.
People in the West are already pushing back on all these narratives.
People found out libs of TikTok was Zionist.
People found out Anne Wokeness was Zionist.
This is a great opportunity for them to see how castrated their politicians are, which is embarrassing because a lot of these folks think they're the only people that have pushed back against powerful organized Jews in the past.
And that's not the case at all when you look at what's happening now.
And not to say that Zogs don't exist in the Arab world.
A lot of the Gulf states are now Zogs, and all this stuff was going to become normalized.
And the Palestinians were going to be isolated had they not taken this action.
So this is, I think, the opening salvo of the ultimate disintegration, dissolution of the Zionist entity and the Zionist project.
And I think they all know it.
In fact, and I'll drop a link to this.
There was a group of spooks that have ties to Israeli intelligence, and they all were like, I don't know how we're going to get out of this in one piece because they thought they were in their own echo chamber.
And I just happened to be listening and I was really shocked because that's what we've been saying from the outside.
But to hear people with people on the inside saying things like that, like get out of this in one piece and continue the Abraham Accords and normalize with Saud and everyone else.
Because we all know that Saudi and Israeli have been, you know, tied in so many ways, especially when you look at the destruction of Syria and the attempt to take out Assad in Syria.
They were all on the same page.
So the idea that they're just going to now normalize is going to take that so many steps further.
And obviously, Salman is going to sell out his people.
There's a lot of evidence to show that Saud and some of the other Gulf families are crypto.
And that would make a lot of sense in terms of why they have this animosity towards or ambivalence, let's say, towards Palestine.
The reason I don't want to get into it with this guy is just like it'll derail the entire.
Let me derail the entire space and we'll end up having to talk about other his stupid conspiracy theories and shit.
So I'm not even going to respond to it because it's like it's going to derail the whole thing.
And instead of talking about the situation, I'll have to talk about his retarded theory that the Saudi royal family are actually Jews or whatever.
It's so fucking annoying.
To the main host, I think it was.
It was in a space yesterday with about, I want to say a thousand people roughly, mostly former intelligence in the West, maybe arms dealers and those kinds of people that were just kind of openly having conversations about weaponry and stockpiles and strategic moves.
And some of them were able to admit that, you know, the Israelis were very reticent to enter any kind of ground battlefield at all.
And every time they were held and smaller forces, making them look like problems.
And so they said that we have to find that thin line to be able to navigate what's happening now and all the different pressure valves and different fronts that could be opened up against us in order to get out of this in one piece and continue with the Abrahams report.
They said it's going to be almost impossible.
And so just to hear that from someone that says that they had Mossad ties, that they knew people within Israeli intelligence was just really fascinating.
It reaffirmed the kind of things that we know from the SPS.
This guy's so fucking annoying.
Yes, please go ahead and put that in the space.
And that kind of brings me to another thing about Barnum Space: that the amount of posturing, the amount of robot you could see, like, oh, we're in the end of the month.
Oh, you know, has a lot of people didn't enter.
Iran really, really wants to do that today.
All of this crap.
In the meantime, the Americans are shitting this balls, I guarantee.
They they don't have any pept uh like the uh
They uh they're all they're weapons of the US well.
Uh there look they this uh
You know what?
Uh, when you're finally boss in a video game, it goes sort of like a desperation move, it goes on the end.
That's what's happening.
You know, one of the things too is that the new generation of soldiers in the IDF, I can't imagine how they would fare against the weathered and battle-seasoned Hezbollah.
I mean, or Hamaz for that matter, but especially Hezbollah.
Like, they have been fighting.
For the better part of the 2010s in Syria.
So, like, how is this new TikTok dance generation in the IDF?
I mean, I can't imagine that they're going to be able to go up toe to toe with, especially morale-wise, right?
I mean, at the end of the day,
Yeah, at the end of the day, they don't even believe in Z the Zionist cause in their heart of hearts.
They're just kind of go they're they're pretty much just consumerists, you know, they're hedonists, they don't care about any of this stuff.
I think go ahead.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
No, I was going to say that they, I think your question was related to how are they even going to fight Hezbollah.
I posted something else.
I don't know why.
I don't know how to post in the Nest, but I posted in the comments another article that came out a couple of months back, actually.
A retired general from the backup army, his name was, I think, Israel Ziv.
And he said himself that in the next war, the Israeli army could collapse.
And it makes a lot of sense.
Even demographically, the religious component of the zealous religious components of the country, they're the largest demographic.
And they do not fight.
They have a religious exemption not to fight.
They believe that they should be only doing religious studies.
But at the same time, they want the occupation, they want the benefits of it, and ultimately they want Israel, which is going to be parts of several other countries that they haven't even taken over yet.
So they do not want any kind of ground battle with Hezbollah.
They know through their mercenaries what happened to them in Syria once Hezbollah got involved and also Hezbo's training.
Because people think, oh, is Hezbollah going to send people to Gaza?
They're not going to wait till now when the war has already opened up to send people.
They already have people there.
I mean, it's something that you can't confirm, quote unquote, but it's very well known.
And say Qasim Soleimani has been there many times.
They say that Ghale Bawali went back.
It's so crazy.
The guy who with 1,000 followers loves talking the most.
Loves yip yapping the most.
This dude is.
This dude is not just here to, like, actually, like.
For information, he's here to make friends.
That's why he's here.
He's literally a lonely guy who wants to make friends.
You know, Shia Iran and Hezab and even Ansurullah are like the first ones, you know, willing to sacrifice for Palestine.
And so I think that the people of Palestine have learned to appreciate that despite the religious difference.
And the Axis is very, very strong and very much willing to do whatever it takes.
And a lot of the weaponry that you've seen deployed so far-the missiles and the kind of surface-to-air and all these other things that have been shown-they're nothing in comparison to what they have.
I mean, you know, Hezbollah really embarrassed Israel strategically and intelligently.
Dude, this guy is a space killer.
He kills spaces.
This is why this space is not going to go beyond one point seven K because of this guy alone.
If he just left the space, it would be much more watchable and it it'd be so much better.
He's not giving us anything.
Had tandem warhead technology.
And so, you know, when that first missile hits, the second one comes out at the point of impact to shoot another one in because the Merkava has explosive armor that's supposed to defuse the first missile or the first rocket.
So, just like the weaponry alone, what they've created.
Also, Zuwari, I think people don't recognize his name.
Zuwari is the one who created this drone, the suicide drone, that they're using to such strategic advantage.
So, when you have all of this, it's really scaring the Israelis on the ground.
They do not want any part of a ground invasion, and that's why they've been trying to starve them, trying to make them tired, create disease amongst them.
That's what's happening to me.
Burn people, whatever.
That's what's happening to me.
I'm getting tired.
I'm getting, I'm about to fall asleep off because then they're entrenched, you know.
And so, I think a lot of this amassing of assets near Gaza is a lot of posturing.
I mean, I think if we would have seen a genuine Israeli-only ground invasion, it would have already happened.
I think there's a lot of reticence in the army to do that.
And Israel Ziv, you know, spoke to that in the article that I posted.
Okay, Syrian, go for it.
Top chop.
Yeah, I wanted to just say on Hezbo's thing that I think Hezbollah has superior infantry while Israel has superior uh air superiority.
So basically the whole tactic is Hezbollah tries closing its distance while Israel tries distancing itself.
And uh this is something you can see very heavily in this current conflict.
May I just ask what part of America you're living in, 'cause the accent.
Me?
Yes.
I live in Texas, South Texas.
Ah, okay.
So is that your your is your accent common in Texas?
No, no.
Okay.
'Cause it sounds like you're about to go surfing.
It's pretty cool.
Sorry to say.
Ah, Andy's here.
I'm just bringing in Andy Mock.
He's from the um uh Center for China and Globalization.
It's an excellent think tongue.
So we're gonna add him as a speaker.
So I guess we have to go to discussing strateg strategy.
One thing I would say is apparently the Israelis and Andy would definitely want to speak to this, but apparently the Israelis have moved their intelligence to AI a lot.
So that should be one you know.
Hello, can you guys hear me?
Yes, welcome, welcome.
So amazing to have you here.
Great.
Thank you for having me, Syrian girl.
I've been listening for a little bit and really appreciate the depth and the nuance of these comments.
I just wanted to add one thought about this.
That the Hamas attack actually reminds me of the Tet offensive during the Vietnam War in that at that time the Viet Cong launched a surprise attack that ended up being a pretty devastating military defeat, but ended up being
Oh no, you're not.
We lost to, but uh dude, I've been comparing that to the Tet Offensive since news broke, so it's good to hear someone else sees it as well.
Okay, you're back, Andy.
Please.
Okay.
Well, good.
No, I'm glad other people see this parallel as well.
But then if you do, and for those that may not be as aware of this part of the Vietnam War, that this actually, the real battle was for American public opinion.
And when we look at the vast numerical disparity between Muslims and Jews, I think the only bulwark that is protecting Israel is the United States.
So if support for Israel can be weakened, even weakened, that this could have tremendous ramifications for the outcome of this conflict.
So this is where I'm paying a lot of attention to.
So you look at a lot of the university protests that I don't think we should discount the importance of what's going on with domestic public opinion in the U.S.
But again, thank you, Syrian Girl, for hosting really such an amazing discussion and giving me the chance to weigh in with my two cents.
I think a lot of people underestimate.
Yeah.
Sorry, Jehas.
I just, because I have so many questions for Andy, I'm sure you will as well.
But I wanted him to, because Andy is based in Beijing, guys, and he's part of a Chinese think tank.
And we met only like a month ago or two.
I don't know.
Time flies, but it was an excellent time.
So I just wanted to get his opinion on how the Chinese government must be looking at this.
Because I know, I feel very strongly that they had not really seen this coming and how this could affect the BRICS countries and how it could affect basically like Saudi Arabia and Iran just joined BRICS while I was there in China.
And as a result, I think Iran has had fears.
Guys, what do you want me to do?
Interrupt her?
You guys want me to interrupt her?
You guys just want me to interrupt her and get kicked?
That's stupid.
Threatened and also the Israel normalization isn't wasn't the Chinese government's position.
Dude, if I if I interrupt her right now and if I like in that if I like start acting like a retard There's actual serious people in this space like from China from Russia from Iran from the Middle East and I will make myself look like a fucking dumbass in front of all of them and they Rev, shut the fuck up you fucking retard these are there's serious people in this space.
I'm not gonna make myself look like a fucking retard in front of people I actually respect okay
You know what I mean?
If this was about domestic US politics I would, but it's not.
So Yeah.
I don't give a shit.
This problem, and that these extremist approaches are really counterproductive.
So the Saudi Arabians and the Iranians uh sorry the Saudi Arabians and the Americans while they were signing this Israel uh treaty the Israel treaty actually involves a pipeline uh that would r rival the thing that's best
For the brand.
You don't want the thing that's best for infrared.
You guys want me to go on, like, go back on Iranian TV and all these?
It's like you guys are being stupid.
I'm a goddamn political philosopher, you motherfuckers.
I'm not a goddamn retard.
I act like a retard to American retards.
Internationally, I'm a diplomat.
I'm not going to demean.
You know what I mean?
I'm a goddamn political philosopher, bitch, political science expert.
Haz Aldeen.
I'm not going to be a fucking retard.
Anything that could be a problem.
First of all, thanks for having me.
Great to be here.
This is a great idea.
Greater development worldwide is something that China generally supports.
And I think to the idea of, I think it was Dave Hewlett at Hewlett-Packard that says, you know, competition brings out the best in products.
He also said the worst in people.
But let's just focus on the first half of that.
So having a certain amount of constructive competition, I think, is good for any type of organization.
And generally speaking, I think China supports any efforts to promote and advance peaceful development anywhere in the world.
That's amazing that they see it as like a a positive competition than a rivalry, because I guarantee you the Americans won't see it that way.
You know, that they're not really about promoting positive growth.
But I never considered that that that could be the way that they see things, but it kind of makes sense for China because they do rather than destroy, they do build.
They like to build things.
So I'd like to open the floor for anyone who has, I think you were going to speak to, I interrupted you.
And Andy, you'd like to follow Andy as well.
And Andy.
Can I make one quick comment before we move on about this, just to respond, Syrian girl?
So being based here in Beijing, I have the opportunity to meet and talk with a lot of different countries.
And to your point, Syrian girl, the joke amongst many in the global south, diplomats from the global south, is that when China comes to visit, they get a bridge or a hospital, but when the US comes, they get a lecture.
So yes, to your point, that I think that there is a much more positive view of China around the world.
And again, we see this pernicious and insidious Western propaganda that demonizes those they consider their adversaries and enemies.
And of course, China has been the target of this for quite a long time.
So, going back to the significance of U.S.
domestic public opinion, I think a lot of people underestimate how, although the Zionists, the top ones that are pushing this nonsense about decapitated babies, they're cynical.
They don't believe it.
They know they're lying.
Believe it or not, in the Jewish community in the U.S., they've actually gotten people really duped.
These people actually believe it, like wholeheartedly, that what's being reported is true.
So, I think, you know, even countering the disinformation among the American Jews, probably it's probably worth a shot because they actually sincerely believe it.
I mean, you know, I don't know how it was in Mario's space, but I can't imagine when faced with the evidence or the lack of evidence, I should say, that people still insist on these atrocities being real and true.
Like, I don't know.
Has anyone encountered when like presenting people with like, okay, Ben Shapiro shared an AI-generated photo?
There's absolutely no evidence.
There's nothing backing this up besides the IDF itself and some like extremists that are like, where are these claims that Hamas is committing atrocities, just killing civilians willy-nilly coming from?
You know, it comes from ignorance, right?
This is a deliberate Hasbara.
And the problem is, is that a lot of the Jewish community in the U.S.
is kind of isolated from the rest, especially when it comes to the political conversation.
And this is where, like, when Didi was mentioning earlier, people from among the Jewish community can go in those private, safe spaces and speak on this and really kind of take them to task where, you know, the Gentiles, the Goyam, won't be able to watch on the outside and they'll be able to have that private conversation.
And I think that's one of the biggest roles that they can play because they're not going to listen to us.
You know, they look at all of us as hostile.
And in many ways, they're not incorrect in that, you know, we're not really trying.
I just don't agree with that because when I talk to Jews personally, you know, about this issue, I think that I don't think American Jews are as materially invested as in Israel as much as it's kind of just part of their identity, which obviously is much more fickle, I think, than like a concrete reason to have to be so invested in it.
And I don't think your average Jew sees Goyim as subhuman or whatever, whose opinions don't matter.
I mean, like, you know, I don't really know where that's coming from.
I talk to Jews all the time, normal ones, and, you know, they're more than capable of listening to reason.
It's just right now, there's such an emotional, you know, people underestimate this is American Jews themselves are super manipulated into being Zionists.
And they play on the emotions and they dupe them and they fool them.
And it's not, you know, Jews conversing in private and, oh, who cares about the Goyim?
It's the same things that we see, they see, right?
And they go out of their way through Jewish institutions, especially to just brainwash people, right?
The whole birthright program is a huge example of that.
So, you know, I think it goes a long way because obviously, I mean, look, the propaganda is so blatantly false.
It's just so obviously false.
And anybody who just listens with reason, no one could sustain, I mean, Laura Loomer, like, for example, does she really believe the shit she's saying about Hamas's atrocities?
That Hamas is like ISIS.
I can't imagine it.
You know, it's just fucking crazy.
One of the things that is sort of a chilling has a chilling effect on activism in the West and those protests in universities and such is this current claim that Hamas is going to commit terrorist attacks on United States territory to try to draw the Americans into this idea of terrorism in the in the West at the hands of Hamas and which doesn't make sense because it's a national liberation movement.
But I'm about to go to a protest this evening in a few hours.
And we know for sure there's going to be as many police officers there as there will be protesters.
So just putting that out.
I'm terrified if anything.
Like I know it's so stupid because Hamas called for protests and they're saying, oh, they're calling for a worldwide terror attack.
It's just so stupid.
But you know what I am worried about?
Like I would not put it past the Zionist entity and its allies to actually commit a false flag.
Like I would not put it past them.
And if that happens in the U.S., it's like game over.
We're involved.
Well, this is exactly why I was saying counter that ahead of time.
Because I'll give you an example.
After 9-11, I had a big role to play exposing the Israeli role, the Zionist role in that.
But now, after the aftermath of that, it looks like they had something planned under Rahm Emmanuel's watch in Chicago.
But because activists were so aware of the chatter, of the weird coincidences around it and things like that, they started to say, we're going to accuse the Israeli government, Assad, et cetera, if anything major happens in Chicago.
We're not going to believe the false flag narrative.
And this was pushed and pushed and pushed for a very long time.
And that's why I think we were able to avoid it.
So, you know, not waiting for evidence.
I know that we're in a journalistic kind of society, a lot of misinformation, and everybody wants to wait for evidence and proof.
But like I think Mark Twain said, you know, by the time that truth is woken up, you know, the lies spread all over the world.
Now, I'm paraphrasing, but in order to avoid a scenario like that, you have to jump out ahead of it and show that Israel has had a history of false flags.
Viktor Ostrovsky's book, I think it's called By Way of Deception, if I'm not mistaken.
That book, there's a few other books.
Ronan Bergman, Rise and Kill First.
These are great books.
Robert Friedman, another outspoken who got killed for putting out his book, Red Mafia, is another great book talking about the insane levels of control in the United States that the Russian Jewish mob had.
So when you put this kind of information out ahead of time, it does hold back their arms a little bit because people, them knowing that people will be aware, they don't want to create more issues.
It's one of the reasons why they don't kill as many activists as they could, because you got to wait till the activists become such a big problem that it makes sense to kill them rather than continue to just let them go.
So pushing out that narrative that Americans at large will not accept the idea that Hamas did any terrorism in the United States and that we will hold Israel responsible for any major terrorist attack, I think goes a long way.
And just putting that out there now, that's what I've been trying to say in all these spaces, is that you have to counter the propaganda before it happens because they're already setting the stage with people like Lara Lumer.
And now even Trump kind of pitching the idea out there to give himself some more relevancy.
Yeah, people have this idea that Hamas are wild and they're like feral and they don't understand the alliance Hamas is a part of, which is the Mukaoma, and they're not stupid.
And it's like, this is all the proof you need that any kind of attack is a false flag.
Here it is.
Before they would ever think of
Um b we have we're gonna have more and more pe speakers.
Yeah.
Um we will probably get uh hands up in the bit.
Bahaz, go ahead and finish and then we'll go to Andy.
Yeah, I'm just saying before they would ever consider attacking US civilians and that fulfills no strategic aim whatsoever they'd probably target US like military bases in the Middle East first because that would actually be relevant to what they're doing.
Like I see no reason at all why any any forces aligned with Hamas would see fit to attack US civilians.
It's just it's unthinkable, right?
So if that does happen, I'm gonna go ahead and say it's 100% a false flag, like 100%.
Yeah, that's what I was saying.
Instead of waiting for it to happen and then saying it, you might as well say it ahead of time just in case.
You know, if you're wrong, you're wrong, nothing happens.
At least everyone is saved.
But if you wait, you know, then and something happens, it's going to be too late.
Like they're already dumping so much propaganda and people are countering it.
But like I keep saying, let's go on offense and push against what they're doing and show, you know, with details what they're doing because this is really going to change the game when it comes to the psychological warfare component.
Like Ben Shapiro getting ratioed by the entire
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Anonymous.
Thank you.
Na oh, thanks for the ten, but I know that's not directed toward me, but
Yeah.
Or aware of it.
And this is the so-called Samsun option from the biblical story of Samson, which is the alleged Israeli nuclear deterrence strategy, where it's not only nuclear weapons to attack their direct adversaries, but where if the Israeli state is faced with destruction, they will launch nuclear weapons against many cities around the world, again, including allegedly European capitals, as a way to say, we're going to die.
We're going to take all of you with us.
And how this has manifested in the past is in the 1973 Yom Kippur War.
Again, allegedly they blackmailed the U.S.
into providing support.
And we may see one, this dynamic playing out.
We have to get away.
Let's go.
I think a risk of raid or destructive.
Let's go, Blackpack.
That is an excellent, excellent thing to talk about.
And one of the things that we really aren't exactly allowed to talk about in the bigger
Rev, get your ass into the speaker and spur God like how you wanted me to.
Be disruptive, yell, do all the things you wanted me to do and get kicked.
Because you're claiming I had to do this myself.
Okay, then you do it.
Then you do it.
You do it.
You do the spurg out.
Attempt that because of course the President has survived ten years of war, so we're not exactly concerned.
Um Israelis, I'm sure, have always wanted to kill him, but they just haven't been able to.
And the reason for that is because of uh Russia and now China, because recently the President has visited visited China.
So on that point, I'd like to open the discussion about World War three that Andy has opened now with the Samsung option, and definitely would love to hear what if if uh what China's angle would be on that.
I mean, I don't believe Israel will do a Samson option on anywhere outside of its adversaries in the region.
I just, I find it implausible.
And I also, I don't even believe they will actually kill everyone in Israel.
Maybe there's some madmen in power who might think that, but it's like Israelis themselves are not going to die for the Zionist entity.
They are not, they are like nihilistic hedonists.
They'll rather just pack their bags and flee.
They don't, you know, they're not like, they don't have that in them, you know?
So I just, I can't see that happening myself.
But I can see Israel using nukes against like Iran or Syria as a last resort.
Definitely, right?
But I just don't I don't see Israel like nuking the world and k and just killing all of itself.
I think basically I think Zionists would rather and here's here's why I'm saying that because from what I understand Israel is just a piece of a puzzle, right?
The forces that control Israel it doesn't begin and end in Israel, right?
It's it's part of a huge global cartel with the city of London and Wall Street and stuff.
And it's like, yeah, if they lose their base in the Middle East, they'll take the L and leave.
But are they going to straight up kill all themselves?
No, they're not.
No way.
I don't see that.
But that's just me.
You know, if anyone has a different perspective, I'm open to hearing that as well.
A little bit of a different perspective.
I mean, the Samsung option, it's not as uncommon as people think.
Russia has a similar system.
It's called Perimeter.
If ever to get nuked, the entire arsenal is rigged to fire at all of its targets.
I said the U.S.
used to have a dead hand as well.
I don't know if they still do.
I suspect that all the nuclear powers that have a triad have something similar, a Samsung option.
I don't think they're going to nuke themselves.
From what I understood, Twitter banned me about the Samsung option.
I tried making other accounts.
That if ever they're overrun and it's obvious that they're going to lose, it's beyond hope.
Thank you, Errol.
I appreciate you, man.
And whether they do or not, that bluff is enough to, assuming it's a bluff, is enough to get others to cooperate and others to not overrun it entirely.
Because every nuclear state has its nuclear threshold.
The whole point of deterrence is we don't know where those thresholds are.
Therefore, we have to thread carefully in case we accidentally cross them and there's a nuclear war.
So I mean, let me ask you this: if Israel, for example, was not being threatened with nukes, just conquest and an occupation, do you think that would be enough for them to fire nukes and then provoke nuclear retaliation?
Like, let's say if they fire the nukes first, if they're getting overrun and there is no hope, they have nothing to lose.
They will go nuclear.
Yeah, 100%.
I was going to jump in on that.
Martin Krebold, I don't know which school he was a professor at, but Martin Krebled, way back in, I believe it was 2000, maybe three, 2004, he openly stated that the Samsung option is genuine, that it's real, and that if Israel were to go under, that they would take all of Europe with them.
And that all of the European capitals are within range of the Israeli nuclear arm subs.
So it's not even something that they've hidden from the world.
They've kind of openly stated this ultimate objective.
And this is part of the reason why I think right now, as this is unfolding, there's a lot of behind the scenes pressure being added to Europe.
I mean, for France and the UK to basically criminalize a state's flag, you have to understand the reason why is because the Zionist power is so deep and strong in these countries and they're threatening them that we're not going to go down by ourselves.
I know this is some speculation.
This is not proven, but it makes a lot of sense given the context of what they've already stated in the past and the level of control and some of these manifestations of how much control they have through what these people are making their own citizens go through.
And all of this is going to backfire.
One of the reasons historically that before the state of Israel, if certain parts of the Jewish community had the outstanding people in the region come after them, it was because here comes the yip yap.
The yip yapper has begun.
Level of control.
And I think that we're seeing the manifestation.
This is what happens when you're not considerate to anyone else in a space.
You just yip yap forever about whatever you want.
That's a very interesting point that the flag is gonna be uh essentially beheading babies.
Um I think we lost Andy, didn't we?
Ah, that's a shame, because I would have loved to hear more about the nuclear posturing.
Um, so one of the things I heard, guys, is that Syria has a nuclear triad with Iran and North Korea.
Um discuss discuss first of all for our listeners what a nuclear triad is.
Okay, well a nuclear triad is um having the three uh delivery systems.
By land, ICBMs usually, by sea, SSBNs or submarines usually, and strategic bombers.
Uh I don't think Syria, Iran and North Korea have a nuclear triad between the three of them, but if they do, they've kept one hell of a secret.
Like for reference, China doesn't technically have a nuclear triad because nobody believes that the Tuple F sixteen counts.
Like the Indians joke that they shoot them down with peaceholders and slingshots.
They're almost seventy year old bombers.
They
They're like they they were obsolete during the Soviet period when they were given to uh when they were given to China.
So just uh to keep in mind, I think only the United States, uh Russia and India have tri have a triad.
Israel actually no, Israel doesn't have bombers, so they don't have they don't have a triad either.
France and England don't have one either.
Andy, do you uh w agree with that?
Does China have a nuclear trial?
Sorry, I'm probably not the best person to comment on that, but this might have been already elaborated upon, but I was clipping in and out, so I couldn't hear what everyone was saying.
But I think with respect to Israel, it is again, as I think I heard someone say, that if Israel were to be overrun or its existence as a political entity were to be under severe threat, they then would invoke the Samsung option.
So it's not as direct retaliation against a nuclear attack, and that the targeting of countries or capitals that are not party to the conflict, I think, makes it unusual as well.
And the aspect to this that I pay attention to is its ability to coerce or perhaps blackmail other countries, especially the United States, into this tail wagging the dog kind of phenomenon, something to pay attention to that might be going on behind the scenes here.
It's almost you could say that they've taken the world hostage rather than just a few people from besides the Gaza Strip or inside Palestine.
It's the world they're holding hostage with this nuclear threat.
And I wonder, you know, like it just the other side can never be that diabolical, it seems.
But we have a lot of speakers on the panel as well.
If you have any questions, Jelina, do you have anything to say?
No, I don't know why you put me here.
I can only share what I see that this propaganda is happening.
Like this is crazy, but I can share with you when war was happening in my country, I'm Croat and my husband is Serbian we have on T V staff they were showing a track full of mutilated people, right?
So while watching T V they were saying look what they did to us, you know, look what they're doing to our women, children, they're raping us, you know and we were looking at that and then we changed channel to Croatian children.
They had same exactly everything, it was just look what they're doing to us.
And I look at my husband and like, oh, nobody will gonna go for it.
Like people will see what they're doing to us, right?
So what happened, nobody changed the channel.
And people go in war and they massacre each other.
And you can see like 30 years after, we were watching a guy who was giving an interview in Montreal and wrote a book how they did the SIA convert operation and how they break Yugoslavia.
And he put everything down, what was happening, and who got the money from leaders, political leaders.
And people to this day still hating each other and still don't protesting that, you know, and still are ready to go in war.
So I think it's really, really important to because like when I put stuff and trying to tell people you're stupid that belie that you believe in this stuff, they thinking that I'm supporting Hamas.
It's really like one big stupidity that people cannot step back and start to like majority people need leaders, right?
So it's very important for us to break propaganda as much as we can.
Mointe pomeni na soveui bookorno umiramo um koskimitritz.
Yeah, you see, now you somebody says to to us to uh mention the people that are in Kosovo also.
There was always fight in Kosovo and that is like for for Serbs uh big fight there and like I don't know, this is like more something that they should talk about, like not not me, right?
To to jump in and and talk about that.
I can just say from my experience, what me and my husband went through, and this was some beauty when I come in Canada, that we felt free, you know, because before that in my country you always have to worry that that will be like a marriage between Israeli and Palestinians.
The second yip yapper has arrived.
So you never feel like complete.
Then we come at Canada and that was that feeling that you can have be complete.
But now what's happening in Canada?
We have a MP uh woman that was uh talking about uh for uh humanitarian help for for uh Gaza, but now they're thinking that she's supporter of the Hammers and asking for her resignation.
So that is happening in Canada.
And because all of this uh truck convoy that we have and they throw the counts of people that was part of it, now nobody is afraid to say the word.
Like people are so afraid of Canada that you don't have like ideas.
So that's my two cents, guys.
And also if you cannot have people from CIA to come and like if you have to wait for them to open file fifty years from now to tell us then we cannot know is that what's really happening.
It's such a good you know like they they they're the head of the CIA admitted all they do lie and cheat and steal.
But I'm not an AI advocate.
Israel is superfluous.
We can just abolish it.
But after that I suggest we all go to the other space so that we can combine forces.
So Tawab, AI guy, and then let's kick off some debate with this Israeli guy that's talking about wiping out Gaza on his Twitter account.
Sorry Eric, I checked.
Tawab, go ahead.
Thank you, Diego.
And I appreciate that you and many others are holding these spaces.
And I think for the first time in ages, I've seen
This is already Yip Yap.
He's gonna give a fucking lecture about the significance of having Twitter spaces.
Dude, get to the point!
Mainstream media even speaking up, explaining certain truth trut truths.
And I I've also noticed that unfortunately in mainstream media,
There's the they always try to change the narrative and make it a Hamas narrative.
And it's a trap, right?
Because they completely don't want to give you the context, the historical context, the situation in Ghaza.
And it continuously focuses on an episodic view, minute episodic view, discounting the entire 20 years of siege, open-air prison, and everything else that's happening.
So I'm saying this because I've noticed that there's some hope that the tide is changing when it comes to fifth-generation warfare.
War is no longer fought on the battlefield.
It's really fought with winning hearts and minds.
And unfortunately, we know, we've seen enough that when it comes to war, there are regimes, countries who will actually create fabricate news to win supporters.
Because in order to push their extreme policies, they need mass supports and evoke your emotion and then hijack you.
So that's one.
But I think one area that I would request everybody to focus in on is Netanyahu.
This guy has reached a point where even his closest allies hate him.
He's done so much damage to Israel, to the Israeli people, to his allies.
And I've said this analogy before, and I'll say it again.
Netanyahu is to Biden what Joffrey or King Joffrey in Game of Thrones was to his grandfather or mother.
He's like a loose cannon, which has completely caused a lot of problems to the West.
I mean, this could not have happened at a worser time for the U.S., who's been trying extensively to normalize the relationship between Saudi and Israel, and that's gone out the window now.
So the whole dynamics has changed.
And now this puts the U.S.
in a very odd situation going forward because it gives the upper hand for China and Russia economically, even morally, because historically it was always that the Uyghur Muslims were being abused and tortured, which is true.
There is definitely truth to that.
But now that moral high ground is gone because you're looking at Israel.
When does it fucking end?
Well, when you're competing with consumers, holy shit.
And China.
People just fucking love to talk while saying nothing.
I don't want to go too much into the macroeconomics.
Yeah, please don't go into it.
Oh, my God.
If there's a concerted effort to expose Netanyahu.
I think there will be a lot more people who can see the bigger picture and at least see the truth.
Because this guy has done havoc.
He single-handedly has killed the two-state solution.
He was never for it.
He continuously worked towards killing that deal altogether, which has brought us to this situation.
So nevertheless, not to talk too much, and I appreciate you giving me this space.
I think we should go into the other space so we can join forces.
And I really appreciate everything you guys are doing.
Finding the truth, exposing the truth.
This is the first time I'm seeing this.
I was born in Afghanistan, and I've seen plenty of war, unfortunately.
And for the first time, I'm actually seeing hope that people can actually see both sides of the story.
Hey, Johnny.
This is as much as the host's fault as it is.
Or have a more balanced view of the whole thing.
Thank you all.
Oh my god.
Now the fucking foreigners are gonna jibber jabber in their yip yap.
Thank you so much.
I'm not allowed in the other space to speak, so that would be it for me.
But thank you so much, Syrian girl, for hosting this space.
Keep doing what you're doing.
Take care of yourself, Sue.
I know a lot of people need to hear that because we all take this to heart.
A lot of empathy, a lot of hard work, and sleepless nights.
But you're not that great if you can't take care of yourself and be at your best.
That's what Israel is like, though.
What we will do is I'm going to put the other space into the omnibus and then I'm going to have this Zionist guy, Eric Eric, abuse us for a little bit, just for fun.
And then we will allow everybody to move off into the other space while we're talking.
How do you see you laughing?
I just love a fight, okay?
Excuse me.
Can I ask Eric if he believes in the decapitated thing?
Because I'm really curious.
Yeah, go ahead.
Go right.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm really curious if anyone believes that.
So, Eric, do you believe in the Hamas atrocities?
If so, what is the evidence you're getting it from?
And if you have any, show it to me, please.
Good afternoon, good evening, everybody.
Oh, you're speaking from Israel or designist occupiers who state in the Levant?
No, I'm actually.
Do you guys hear me?
Yes, we can hear you.
Okay, good evening, everybody.
I'm Eric.
I'm living in the United States.
I born and raised in Israel.
My parents from my mom's side from Baghdad.
My father's side is from Libya.
Okay.
By the way, the last person, Hamidi, I think, he spoke about Benjamin Netanyahu, which I absolutely agree with him, that Benjamin Netanyahu destroyed a lot of relationship in Israel.
And he actually
He actually divides the Israeli inside of Israel, if that makes sense for you guys.
Um
It's a terrible situation, I have to tell you.
Um I'm not left or right, okay.
Um Syrian girl, you just mentioned that uh I don't know, you said something ab about me, but that I said something before or whatever.
Uh but I'm not I'm not taking any side.
Sorry about my English as well.
I'm gonna try to uh express myself uh as much as possible.
I hope you're going to understand everything.
Um
But uh you guys wanna ask me any question?
Yeah, so I'm looking at your I'm looking at your timeline and I see Israel is ready to erase the name of Gaza from the world map, and then you're saying let's go.
So you're half Iraqi, half Libyan, right?
So don't you think you're a traitor?
Uh I'm not listening.
I'm born and raised in Israel, okay?
This is the only state I have.
Your blood is from our people, so you're a traitor.
Uh w w what do you mean trade, if you can explain it to me?
You're Iraqi.
You're a traitor to your people.
You're betraying your people.
Why?
Because you're Arab, so you're supposed to you speak Arabic, you're from Mesopotamia.
I I don't speak Arabic actually.
You allowed people from Europe and Africa and Asia to swarm into our land and kill our people, so you're you're a traitor.
Um n listen, I on on my on the other side I can say the the same thing about Gaza.
I mean I'm not about Gaza specific, about Hamas.
Okay, uh I I think the fight, the main fight, okay, before the fight, I think people doesn't want to recognize Israel as a country.
And this is the main problem because one is not the problem, Israel isn't a country.
It's a terrorist organization, right?
That's how it began.
It's like the Jewish ISIS on our land.
How can we recognize it as a country when it du you know, when you have people that from all over the world that are claiming the land?
It doesn't make any sense.
It is the Jewish ISIS.
I mean, that's your opinion.
Eric, I just want to ask you, do you believe in the decapitating policy of Syria and Iran, it's the f the policy of Syria and Iran it's not my opinion.
It's the government policy of twenty eight countries of the world that don't recognize Israel as a state.
But Israel recognises it as a state and we and we have an army.
It is not recognised as a state by twenty eight countries.
In fact, this is what this war is being fought about, because Israel is trying to convince Saudi Arabia to recognise it as a country and this war has proven that it's not a country.
It can't be.
Because the only way it can exist is by by uh creating foreigners to uh fight, essentially.
Okay.
I mean, i this is again, it's your opinion and and that's what you believe in, and I'm okay with that.
I mean, I'm not gonna fight on that.
Uh, but I I have another qu I mean, Israel is already there, okay?
So Eric, Eric, before you ask a question, I have to ask you: do you believe in the decapitated baby story?
I just want to know.
Uh what do you mean?
Can you can please explain?
So the claim is being alleged against Hamas that they decapitated 40 babies.
Do you believe that in your heart of hearts?
Um yes.
I I listen, I have proof.
Okay, what do you mean?
What's what's the proof?
Where are you getting this from?
'Cause I'm really curious where it's coming from.
I I have I have a family there.
Like, uh I I'm getting the information, it's my family.
I mean family is there.
Hold on, your family is t your family witnessed Hamas decapitate forty infants?
Listen, one of my friends, okay, um my one of my friend yeah, they they they took the baby.
Okay, hold on.
Your friend witnessed Tomas take a baby and decapitate the baby?
Yep.
Are you you are just lying through your teeth.
Why would you say that?
What do you mean that his friend was sitting there filming it while while that was happening?
His friend was filming it right next to him, and that's how he has proof, right?
Wait, wait, Eric, Eric, you're seriously Eric, you sound like you're lying.
You're seriously sitting here telling me that you have a friend in Israel that you know and he witnessed Homas take a baby and decapitate the baby.
Is that what you're claiming?
When you say deprecate.
Huh?
Can hold on, Eric.
Can you please level with us?
Because I want to hope you're a reasonable person and we're all reasonable.
I am here.
Right, right.
As I tried to tell you before, I have tough time sometimes to understand or express myself.
So if you can try in a different way to ask me the question, so am I gonna claim?
So do you have a friend who is a witness to Hamas taking a baby and killing it?
Absolutely.
Okay, can you give us more details?
Because this is like an unprecedented report and we want to know what happened.
Okay, l l listen listen.
I have a friend that went to the to the party and I I assume you guys uh heard about the party.
Wh why were there babies at a rave party?
Can you tell me that?
And no, there is no babies on the party.
No.
There is no.
We want to talk about the babies right now.
Can you tell us where did you get the idea that Hamas is killing babies?
I saw videos.
Okay, what videos did you see?
They're killing families.
See, body on uh like inside the the the their bed this is what you guys do.
You've already put the story out about the beheaded babies, and now that we've debunked that, you turn around and say, Well, well, well, you know that they actually are killing babies, though you can't deny that.
This is how Hezbara works.
Eric, I just find it fascinating because first you said that your friend witnessed Hamas behead a baby, then you said your friend witnessed Tomas kill a baby, then you said your friend was actually at a rave at which there were no babies, and now you're claiming that you know is Hamas killed babies because there's video footage which apparently none of us have access to but you.
So, do you see what the problem is?
You're changing your story a little too many times.
Okay, okay, as I mentioned before, it's about my English.
Okay, so if you want to take advantage of that, you can go ahead and do that.
But do you guys have access to Telegraph?
Do you guys see Telegraph?
I am literally the queen of Telegram, and I have not seen a single video.
You are lying again.
I am subscribed to Israeli accounts.
Oh, I'm on there.
I'm on the Israeli accounts.
I'm on Israel.
I'm Officer Keynes.
I'm on IDM.
Guys, there's breaking news that Israel has officially informed the UN to evacuate its staff and advise civilians to evacuate to the southern part of the Gaza Strip.
The northern Gaza Strip must be evacuated within 24 hours.
There are over 1 million civilians in the area.
The request to evacuate is likely due to an imminent ground operation by the Israeli army.
Source, the UN.
I just don't know what to tell you.
If you have family in Palestine, I just am like baffled.
How are one million people?
He's like, They killed my friend.
He told me.
I don't know.
This is me.
Just my friend told me he was killed.
He told me about it.
I don't know if it's a problem.
Tens of thousands are going to die in the coming days.
I can see it too.
Um I'm gonna have to step down.
I need to make a a quick call.
This just came in.
I just want to make sure I'm gonna be back.
Sure.
Take care.
Bye.
Alright, so here we go.
Lebanon is gonna enter soon probably.
A hundred percent.
Yep.
It's gonna be full scale war.
I
All right, Eric, I have a question out of curiosity.
Let's say um Israel is on the back foot, you know, it's not succeeding in this war at all.
Are you going to do your best to lobby and do your best to uh get the US government to intervene and aid Israel as much as it can?
Um I I I'm sorry, I didn't understand all of the questions.
I'm I I don't wanna try to answer and then somebody gonna say something.
Let me make it simple.
Let me say it simple.
If Israel is losing, do you think the US should send our money and troops to help Israel?
Uh listen, of course.
I mean this is my country, so of course I'm gonna say it's it's something I I cannot.
You know, it's uh and and and Israel and America in in in a good relationship.
I mean it's uh okay Eric, 'cause I take this personally 'cause I pay taxes.
Why does Israel deserve my tax dollars?
Why do they deserve my tax dollars?
Why?
Because I think uh first of all Israel is one of the the only democracy uh uh country in the Middle East.
Yeah, but democracy means nothing.
It's a bunch of gibber, so it means nothing.
Having elections is not a democracy, my friend.
Said again.
I mean, why do we care if it's a democracy or not?
Like, America's friends with Saudi Arabia, so it doesn't make why why w why would we give a shit?
Democracy is having rule of law and respecting all your citizens.
So you do not respect the people.
America lets your people.
I want to use Syrian girl here, right?
Like, I really don't care about this guy and what he thinks, and so many little people, like, you cannot change their mind, and it's taking too much time.
I want to see, Syrian girl, what you're seeing, what's going to happen with this situation now, right?
We've been talking about it.
Give us some light on the situation and big picture, and what you think that is happening, what you think that is happening with Hezbollah, how we are perceiving this, because they're saying Hamas and Hezbollah, then you said on another side, okay, Israel is one that was supporting Hezbollah there.
All this other stuff that are like people are asking for, or that are people accusing us.
There's no situation.
I think it'll be so much, it will be so good if somebody really explained that to the people.
When it's not, you know, like, oh, you stupid, you idiot.
Just like to give big picture and to see what's happening and to give to people in perspective what's gonna happen now.
Because people are so really stupid to see how many people are gonna die.
This is like this is genocide above any genocide now.
Right?
Okay, I'm going to explain.
So, just quickly to correct something before I get to the basics.
The notion that Israel supports Hezbollah or Hamas or anything like that, no, definitely not Hezbollah.
Okay, there is some indications that they preferred Hamas over the secular resistance groups because they wanted the they wanted to portray the war as a war of Judaism versus Islam rather than a war of a nation of Palestinians that are being invaded and occupied and their land being taken away.
So, this is one of the reasons.
The other reason that Netanyahu himself said he wants, like, he prefers Hamas, is because he wants to kill the two-state solution, which actually I agree with.
I don't like the idea of the two-state solution because I know that you can never really live with a terrorist next door to you.
And when I say that, I mean Israel as being a terrorist, right?
So, Israel is always the idea of Zionism is a religious idea, and it's about expanding the territory.
The other thing is the
Th th th what's gonna happen now?
From what I can see, Israel, we might see the last days of Israel in the next couple of days.
Because what will happen is going to be a bunch for them and for us.
I don't think that.
They've cut the water off in Gaza.
They don't seem like they're going to allow water into there.
So already, millions of people are under threat of dehydration.
Children, people who have been burned.
You can imagine how much dehydration happens when people are burned.
Israel is going to stop existing in a few days?
No.
You know, the world will call this a whatever.
This will take a year.
You know, inhumanity.
Minimum.
But Israelis, of course, will invent stories about dead babies in order to push for this inhumanity to continue.
This is going to go on for months and months.
Minimum.
Hadi, I think you know.
And Israel will attack Lebanon.
Question is after that.
So the Hezbollah is
It's gonna show Israel things they've never seen before.
If you think two thousand six was difficult for Israel, it's gonna be uh a thousand times worse than that, because now they have drone warfare.
The Americans, they're running out of fuel, they're on their l the lowest reserve since the eighties, they're fighting a front in Ukraine, they're about sending billions and billions of billions of dollars there, they've sent their Israeli munitions to Ukraine, so they're they are uh desperate, but in their desperation they may act more rashly.
That's that makes them more dangerous.
The Iranians, of course, they would prefer the the uh the Americans to de escalate, and for that reason we might have to conduct a de escalation strike.
So the Russian doctrine of a de escalation strike is if they uh um you know do a s very small tactical nuke is what they refer to as a de escalation strike.
This is not what will happen well this is not what I mean in this front.
I mean it would be something big, something catastrophic to the Israeli army.
So the Israeli army is gonna s face horrendous losses.
There's there's going to be um a uh
Well, there's going to be um
How do you say?
I lost my train of thought unfortunately.
The Marcaba towns are gonna blow up everywhere.
There's gonna be resistance in the West Bank.
The settlers are gonna go on pogums.
Torturing Palestinian houses and murdering them.
Of course, your reaction to that.
They will turn public opinion against them all over the Middle East.
The borders of Egypt and Jordan are going to be destabilized.
It might even tip Jordan and Egypt out of the peace treaty with Israel, depending on how far it goes.
This is going to be difficult and probably unlikely, but depending on how far it goes, it could happen.
Jordan was almost already on the brink of war with Israel when they declared that they were going to annex the West Bank.
So it just shows you that it's possible.
The Saudis, the Saudi government,
I'm just really enjoying what's happening to them right now.
I'm really, really enjoy I can't help but feel that enjoyment.
Um, their their people are gonna turn against them.
UAE, even more screwed.
I'm just I'm gonna I'm I'm making the popcorn as we speak.
Um
So if the Americans enter, uh so it's gonna be a fight between Hezbollah and Israel and uh Hamas and the resistance groups inside Syria, Jolan, um and uh the West Bank.
Uh Fatech being one as well.
The SSNP, all of them.
And we have to sit back and watch how Israel does.
Now I suspect they're going to suffer catastrophic losses.
Of and territorial losses to the point where they're gonna beg for some kind of a treaty and some kind of a, you know.
something.
The Americans might step in to help them.
The Americans might uh in like use their outposts in the Middle East, like Iraq and Syria.
Um and they uh
The
they they will get they will face, first of all, resistance attacks, like resistance groups like uh the Hashd Shabi in Iraq will start harassing American forces in Iraq and per potentially even American forces in Deirzur.
The Russians will not allow their uh hard earned position in i in Syria.
to be weakened, and so they will protect the Syrian government and military, even to the point of pushing the Americans out of their Azure as well.
Their position will become untenable.
And this is all, of course,
if things go well, right?
And in if the Americans start harassing the Iranian Navy, you can imagine the Iranian Navy might even torpedo or with the Super Sombra missile launch at the American vessels.
And don't assume that this means that Iran America is going to invade Iran, because uh America does America does takes risks, but it doesn't take that much risk, because Iran does have chemical weapons.
And if you remember,
The Americans didn't step foot inside Syria until the chemical weapon threat was removed from them.
And we'll say the same thing, because Iran could technically wipe Israel off the face of the earth with which is one bomb.
Um so that is what I'm seeing.
But in any case, if even if it doesn't go as far as what I'm saying.
It will it was it's gonna tens of thousands are going to die.
I I kn I know Leila left here crying because she knows, she can see it.
What do you think uh what stance gonna Europe take?
Because today I spoke with my mother and she says that uh Prime Minister of Croatia put Israeli flag uh as a support, you know?
I'm sorry, Croatia is just not.
No offense to any Croatians, but it's like.
It'll be okay.
I'm sure everything will be fine no matter what Croatia does in this specific conflict.
Okay.
Is there something that you're hearing that's happening from Europe and that?
Official opinions are changing on this situation or not?
I think that the originally the a lot of European countries are client states, like they're controlled by Israel, especially after World War Two.
Um but as the carnage increases, the public opinion is going to turn and the European nations are going to be afraid, not for the Palestinian lives, but for the Israeli lives that are about to to uh depart this earth also.
Reptile, you have your hand up.
Did anyone hear that?
Reptile?
Syrian girl, hey going.
Wow.
Do you know what, Syrian girl?
I've got to jump in.
I'm from Australia too.
I've always found you an important voice and I really do respect you.
This is no joke.
I really do.
Sam!
Closely.
But I've also seen that this particular conflict, I couldn't imagine having a dog in this fight, whether it's on the Jewish side, the Palestinian side.
Could you imagine losing loved ones and stuff?
But I've got to say this, you're so quick to be supporting war, the rhetoric.
I've never heard you like this, Syrian girl.
Hezbollah is going to show them things they've never seen before, really?
Oh yes, they will.
I'm hearing you.
Iran can nuke Israel, one bomb, like listen to you.
I've got to say this as well, as an Australian when you wrote this, if Australia didn't take sides by lighting up the opera house in another country's colours, they wouldn't have created a platform for counter protests.
Stay out of it, Australia.
Sit down, shut up.
Come on, Syrian girl.
What's wrong with anything you just said?
You know, what do I care?
You got fire in the belly.
I'm a huge fan.
You do it, you do it, but I'm telling you, let me tell you, that the rhetoric that you're speaking, the death toll on the other side will be far, far greater than anything you can imagine.
Don't be so quick to be supporting war, Syrian girl.
So I don't want you to imagine that I'm supporting war, okay?
That's not what I'm trying to say.
What I'm trying to say is I we will not sit back and watch Gaza, two million people, be ethnically cleansed.
And I'm not I didn't tell you that only the Israeli side is going to suffer losses.
I said both sides are going to suffer losses.
So and Israel Australia should sit this one up.
Like, what does Australia have to do with anything?
Why would they light up the opera house?
It's nonsensical.
So I just telling you that and you know, too, they took the snippets.
They love to do that as well and to cast everyone with a you know a broad brush.
So I'm hearing that as well.
Seriously, you are.
All that I'm saying is you're a very important voice at this point.
But wow, the rhetoric is sounding very warlike, Syrian girl.
Calm the fuck down.
Seriously, you need to everyone needs to try and calm the fuck down.
Don't forget Syrian girls in Australia.
She's drinking peanut coladas and getting caught in the rain.
Let's not sing on my screen.
Love your Syrian girl.
Sorry.
Huge fan.
Huge fan.
But listen, I am.
If you like make you loving me now.
Okay.
I think I'm going to uh save everybody from the music.
Uh reptile, I uh don't believe that I you're such a huge fan, but if you know me and you know anything about me, I've always been this way.
Throughout the Syrian war I've been this way.
And even before the Syrian war, during the Iraq war, I've been this way.
Because right is right, justice is justice, and we are going to protect our people from a terrorist entity that is taking our land and killing us, just like ISIS.
Now nobody complained when I was like this when ISIS was attacking us.
Nobody complained that I was equally with the same rhetoric when ISIS was dying, but somehow they they view Israel differently and that's the problem because they don't realize that Israel and ISIS are two sides of the same coin.
One of them is Jewish and one of them is Muslim.
But they b all both of them are holding the world hostage to a messianic cult that wants the Messiah to come and the end of the world.
So if that's if I I'm not calling for I'm not like the other side, I'm not calling for ethnic cleansing, I'm not calling for uh civilians to be tortured and uh you know starved of water.
All I'm calling for is people to realize that in the coming days, tens of thousands of people are going to die.
Whether I say that from Australia or from under the bombs, it's still the truth.
Thank you.
I've just
Hezbollah's gonna wipe Israel.
Like, wipe them if they get involved.
It's gonna be over.
No, I truly don't want to say I am such a huge fan.
When you went on Alex Jones during that Syrian war conflict, how you told people what was really going on, that was just so important.
You know what I'm trying to say?
I couldn't imagine both sides, but I'm hearing where you're coming from, but be very careful, Syrian girl.
I've got connections with the Australian intelligence agencies.
Just watch what you're saying, Syrian girl.
Don't forget.
You live in a land down under.
I fear no one and nothing.
I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking around.
But thank you, thank you so much.
I think we're done here.
God bless you.
I'm dropping down.
Thank you, Siringa.
Just please.
Let's.
More peace, less war.
I fear nothing.
Can't we get along, guys?
Can't we get along?
Thank you.
Thank you, everybody.
I hope you can.
Goodbye.
God bless you.
That was fun.
So, uh, the other space was do you guys wanna go there?
Can you hear me?
Should I go to the other space?
We'll just have the speakers go one more round and probably we'll join the other space, okay, guys?
Because it's basically for me.
Cool, I just have a couple of questions.
I wanted to ask Mike, but he's not in here, so I'm gonna ask you.
So, obviously, what I get from your point of views is that if something happens now, like within the next 24 hours, and correct me if I'm wrong, then
I think you said Lebanon or Hezbollah is gonna go into w war as well.
Um first of all, is that correctly understood?
And secondly, what makes you I can't start a space, I don't have blue stags right now.
Well, Leila just came in with an update.
So the um Israelis have asked the UN peacekeepers on the Lebanese border to leave.
Which actually Hezbollah already asked them to do it a few like a couple of days ago.
For me, this is a sign that there's going to be war.
Hadi, do you want to answer that as well?
Yeah, I just want to say that what's happening in Gaza right now, there's something happening.
It was reported by Al Mayadin.
After they told the UN they have twenty-four hours to send the Gazans to the south of Gaza, which is on the borders with Egypt, that seems like a first step to send the Palestinians to that area.
There's a massive bombing campaign in North Gaza that even in the West Bank they're hearing some of the explosions, they're saying Almayen.
I think the carpet bombing is gonna start the north, and that's when the ground invasion may be.
I'm I don't know what's gonna happen, but this twenty-four hours thing for the UN, if it's confirmed 100%, that's completely scary.
And I don't see things escalate further to that extent.
I really don't see the axis of resistance just sitting there and watching.
Absolutely right.
Uh I think that the uh Israelis realize that the axis of resistance is going to go in anyway, right?
And it seems to me that they've already accepted that and they're going all in.
So I don't think that there's any point in waiting anymore, in my view.
But is this like because they see Israel as uh never before been this weak that they can do this, or is it simply because of, okay, we don't want them to like finish off Gaza?
I think they honestly see the end of their state because they wouldn't be acting like this if if it wasn't the case.
Because if you think about the mentality of their people, the one point five million of them were born externally.
And even more than that, have foreign passports, as you saw with how many in the rave had foreign passports.
Who would want to live there now?
Who would want to be next to that?
Not many.
This is a devil's thing.
So it's like it's like their uh
Yeah, this is what it is.
I I think this is why they're reacting so strongly.
So obviously it's not gonna be a a quick war or like a a one month, two month war if this happens, so it's probably gonna go on for a while, if if I understand correctly.
I think it's gonna go on for at least months, at least.
And what do you see as the outcome?
Like, will they like broker a peace which will be in favor for Palestine or in favor for uh uh uh the the other side?
I think after a large loss of Israeli soldiers, like it has to be a very hard, substantial strike on Israeli soldiers.
Once they suffer too many losses, uh and maybe even if a after like some missiles attack their airfields, I think they'll will w they'll suddenly, finally, they'll they'll say, Hey, hey, truce It's not gonna be a peace talk.
It's not gonna be like sitting down on the table, there's just gonna be a ceasefire.
Yeah, but will th w will there be any like gains for any part at this ceasefire or will they just like, okay, let's agree to just stop this and go back to what or how everything was before?
Honestly, I'm sorry to say, I think no one's gonna gain anything.
Stay unanimous.
Your title is correct in more than one way.
Me and my friends were raised on Israeli lies and were lost in life.
Even the ones who believe they are lost.
Victory to Palestine.
Thank you so much, brother.
I appreciate it.
I'm pretty sure they would Axel Brazil would prefer Syria before the war with its capability and how the strength it had.
But the war was necessary to save an ally from destruction, just as happened in Libya and Iraq.
So I think this is like a saving mission more than gaining.
If you can now think of what will be the best scenario for people in Gaza to save as much life as possible, what would that be?
I think you have to particularly uh uh
be very, very critical and uh suspicious of the any voice that says we we need to move all the Gazans to Egypt, to the Sinai, because what is they're essentially saying is we need to smoothly, ethnically cleanse this area of Palestinians.
And because when they go to Egypt, Israelis is not going to allow them to come back to Gaza.
That's the plan, right?
Actually, the CFR wrote about this plan years ago.
Their plan has always been to push all the Palestinians out of that land and into Egypt.
Egypt is not going to take this very nicely.
And as I said, this instability in the Sinai, where the Suez Canal is, where a lot of Egypt's power is, is in that Suez Canal.
They're not going to just sit down and take this lightly.
But that's what the Israelis are going to try to push for.
What is the best case scenario?
The best case scenario is: honestly, Israel suffers catastrophic losses to its army and then they cease fire.
Like, the only thing that's going to shut them up right now and have them stop killing civilians is a military loss, in my view.
Because I have no faith in the international world pulling them back.
Maybe, maybe America, maybe America will tell them, hey, you know what?
This could end in total annihilation.
This is an era of drone warfare.
We're not equipped to handle this.
Perhaps, maybe you should not go all the way into full genocide mode.
Perhaps we can maybe it's enough now.
You've genocided enough people.
But we know that in the Israeli mindset, like in their mathematics, one Jewish life has to be like proportionate to X number of Palestinian lives.
So at the moment, it's like one to one.
They're not going to be okay with that.
They're going to want to keep going.
I wonder if the Americans can pull.
The problem is the Americans, they're so stupid.
They're allowing the Israelis to hang themselves because they're giving them enough rope to do it with.
With their brinkmanship and their statements of we're going to let Israel have free reign to do whatever it wants.
They're ensuring that by doing this.
If the Warsaw versus Israel inter-imperialist war, does modern monetary theory explain what's really going on here?
How do we elevate conservative after voices in audience?
I didn't see those dead baby pictures.
Neither the five.
But that's funny.
I yeah, I'll I'll I speak too much.
I'm sorry, I've hogged the space.
Is there anybody that you hear voices from Israel that are asking their government, please guys stop, you know, do something, don't do it.
People are dying, they need water and food and whatever medicine.
Do you have voices that are going against their own government or nobody can say nothing?
Because usually in a situation like this, everybody is even afraid to speak because you got labeled as a traitor, right?
Actually, I agree with you completely.
And you know, this guy at Ben, who is the co-host of the Other Space, he told me privately that he has been receiving death threats from Israelis for being a quote-unquote traitor.
And nothing he said on the space was egregious.
Like he still supports Israel 100%.
So I can't imagine anyone, I think all those voices would be silenced.
I'm not in that area, so I can't say for sure.
But I think they would probably be terrified to say anything.
I actually think that the humanitarian angle is not that helpful in order to explain the events because the Axis of Resistance and Hamas specifically launched this operation and they knew what the response was going to be, right?
They had to have.
So, of course, it's a humanitarian disaster.
But the thing is, it's been.
And they've been slowly dying and bleeding out for years, and no one's cared.
So, honestly, you know, my opinion is that.
The only way this is gonna get resolved is if there's some kind of territorial gain for the Palestinians of some kind.
I mean, that seems like a stretch, but it's like I don't see this this this specific conflict that's happening now coming to an end without that.
And I know there's been reports that they've had to evacuate villages around Gaza or one of them, and Hamas is still uh
in them and I'm not sure if that's true, but it's like, you know, I I think they're in it to win it, honestly.
I I don't think Hamas just did this to go back to the status quo.
I think at this point they're gonna try to push I've heard this idea that they wanna connect with the West Bank.
Not sure how true it is, but you know, I I can't I can't see
I mean, I they they had to have known what the response was gonna be, you know.
There's no way they thought they were gonna have this unprecedented humiliation of the IDF and of the Zionist entity and not have uh an extremely disproportionate response.
So I know the humanitarian situation is really bad, but I have faith that they probably have a plan, you know.
Oh, they definitely have a cons contingency plan in place for every scenario.
I do suspect that when they did the operation, they probably didn't realize the Israelis would collapse so easily and they would get to go so far into the case.
Um but I think that in fact they almost did connect with the West Bank.
I was watching how much the fighters were going in and I thought to myself, like, they're on the they they could connect to the West Bank.
Can you imagine if they breach into the West Bank and the two connect and the armaments can flow from Jordan and Egypt?
Like it's it would be amazing.
Um definitely that would be fantastic.
And you're right they did uh evacuate those towns, but uh I I look the Israelis are too crazy for that, right?
I i I just don't think that
They'll be able to hold the territory anyway.
Can I just ask one more question about this new law that the Israeli government brought very quickly with possibility to get a license for weapon over the phone?
Uh sorry, to get the weapon uh l a gun license over the phone.
Okay, very good question.
What you guys gotta understand is uh Israel has uh uh settlers.
I don't know if you know about these settlers, but they're basically so the the Palestine if anyone in the crowd doesn't know uh Palestine was divided into a Jewish sector and a Muslim Christian sector by the uh English and then that they after World War Two they got that enshrined into law, uh in the United Nations law, but then the Israelis that wasn't enough for them.
Uh they kept going into the Palestinian territories and building settlements and bringing the wife and kids kind of like ISIS did.
Um and all of those people are armed, okay, they're like violent marauding terrorists.
So if you see anyone in civilian clothes and you think that oh this is a civilian that was killed, think again, because just because they're in like non-military outfit does not mean they're not gun wielding.
And now they wanna just increase the number of those people because what they're gonna perform are pogroms.
So this is gonna be like they're g they think they're gonna be able to do another nakba or like another genocide against Palestinians where they can uh just slaughter the West Bank and Gaza with these terrorists.
Uh but of course that's not gonna be allowed to happen again.
Not again in history.
If I just come if I would just come in um because I I had about um and sorry for my voice.
All right.
I I think that um the Israelis will occupy Gaza.
That's going to be the mission.
And I think that there sadly there is a a casualty count to take into consideration during this process.
because of the fragility that certain alliances exist towards Israel.
Of course, not the ones that are deep, such as the US and the UK, but you know, other alliances such as Egypt and and Jordan and so on.
If t say two hundred thousand Palestinians or more die,
um in in a gruesome way, i it can change the dynamic very quickly on the ground.
I don't believe I don't believe they will do that.
I I genuinely don't believe they will do that.
I think that they will suffocate the place, which is already has been suffocated, so there's not much more to really do, but you can bring it to its knees, subjugate it, um and then police it to the point where the policing of it is better than death.
And you will see support from the Palestinian people for that in in Gaza.
Sorry, support for what exactly?
For an Israeli occupation.
They won't do it 100%.
They'll definitely use groups that they can somehow control.
If you look at the way the West Bank is structured, for example, ABC, the C structure is, they control the security apparatus completely, but they allow for, say, Palestinians to police themselves.
So you think that Gaza will become like the West Bank?
This is the same thing.
So let me tell you why you're wrong.
First of all, at the moment, the West Bank is not like the West Bank because the West Bank and the Palestinian Authority is now making a call to arms.
Secondly, Gaza is never going to be like the West Bank because Israel is able to subjugate, say, Cluster C and West Bank into even curfew, right?
They can control that.
But you're not adding something to your calculation, right?
We have missiles that can destroy Israeli's military.
We have missiles that can hit the Mona.
We have missiles.
We, the resistance, acts, because we're acting as one, right?
So you can't.
You can't assume this is just Palestinians, by the way.
But Hamas is approximately 30,000 to 50,000 combatants, right?
You're talking about the wider resistance group, say, Hezbollah, which has a good significant armed force.
They're not drawn into this.
Hence, the presence of the U.S.
has made it clear that they can be drawn into this.
I just don't understand how you can exist within the market.
This is the key difference.
The U.S.
has brought itself purposely to maintain that law and order, that level of engagement.
The Americans are there to prevent the Iranians from coming in.
No, everybody is not able to do it.
They can do that closer.
They can do that closer to Iran than the Mediterranean Sea.
There's no need for that strike force in the Mediterranean for Iran.
It seems like the strike force is psychological, if anything, to give the Israelis reassurance.
But when push comes to shove, if Hezbollah gets involved, is the U.S.
going to risk all of its assets and bases across the entire Middle East and put the entire international oil market in jeopardy and risk the retaliation by Iran?
I don't think so.
America stands for visiting Israel.
They've made it very clear.
Those messages have been loud and clear.
You focus on Gaza.
And I think they're bluffing.
I think they're bluffing.
Okay.
I agree with Haas about the bluffing.
It's all intelligence or information operations.
That's all Israel has been.
It's a bunch of bluster.
It's not true.
As you can see, they just collapsed when Hamas came in and did what they did.
And these, like Haas rightfully said, it's, you know, the strike force out there is just psychological.
There's no way that the United States of America is going to get embroiled in this kind of thing because it's pretty lethal on the other side.
The best scenario is for Israel to realize this and dissolve.
That's it.
But the only ways they're going to realize that is when they have great losses.
That's all I want to say.
Thanks.
Mo, do you want to answer to that?
Yeah, look, I don't want to be disrespectful, but it's wishful thinking when we're talking about one of the greatest, strongest structures out there.
The U.S.
assets that are now nearby, these are new toys, FYI.
If they're wanting to test them, this is ideal, sadly, before they use it for any greater type of.
I mean, they tested them in Ukraine, surely.
No, no, they have not.
No, no.
This specific air carrier, this is its first excursion in an attack.
I was in U.S.
intelligence for 20 years.
And this is an odd.
Come on, never been in an attack.
There's no big secret weapon anywhere, and there's no United States of America.
That's not what I said.
But that's not what I said.
So the USS, I think it's called Gerald Ford, that's its first mission in an attack orientation ever.
And this piece of equipment, its capacity is substantially better than anything else the United States has as we speak.
Look, no one's denying the U.S.
is the toughest power if they were going to go to war with any of those powers.
But the problem is, if the U.S.
intervenes, if Hezbollah gets involved, then Iran's going to intervene.
Now, ultimately, the U.S.
has all these great weapons, sure.
But winning war is not just about having the best conventional arms.
Winning war is also about dealing with things like irregular warfare.
It's going to set the whole region on fire.
Iran will shut down the Strait of Hormuz.
And that will be so devastating for the international economy.
The U.S.
isn't going to risk it for something so small.
Then, plus, you have the possibility of this kicking off a world war.
I don't think so.
I think the U.S.
knows the consequences of getting involved.
The Mukalm is a very important thing.
And Iran made a strong statement that if the U.S.
gets involved, they're fair game.
And Iran will bomb the Suez Canal, too.
So global trade will just cease.
So that's why the United States is not going to get involved in this.
Anyhow, thanks.
Is there a possibility as well that the US, just like uh the Is Israeli forces in two thousand six, don't have intel enough on what kind of capabilities these guys have?
I think um if it's about Hezbollah I'm pretty sure they do, especially s they've been like watching closely the Syrian war and everything Hezbollah has been receiving from Iran and what have they have been targeting for the past years in Syria that's been coming from Hezbollah, I think they have pretty much an idea about what they're gonna face.
But this can probably just be, you know, bollocks, just America's trying to scare or trying to reassure the Israelis because after they suffered from this embarrassment from few Hamas members just entering and occupy reclaim, let's say, lands from the Israeli occupation, this is very bad for Israel.
I mean, they they they have to reassure them, they have to tell them, Okay, we're on your side, it's not just them, even I think the UK sent something and and yeah, I think that's just all talks and for now.
I don't see America now
Everything depends on what Israel's gonna do in Gaza, right?
So everyone's gonna watch now.
And after that, then we can s speculate even further what Hezbollah, what Iran, what America can do, or what are they gonna do.
Why should everybody watch?
Why are people not speaking out for peace?
Calling more for humanity, calling for them to de-escalate, you know, because there are new players in this game.
We should understand the role of China.
You know, I don't want to sound very speculative, but we should understand also that now suddenly Israel also and the Palestinian issue has become another geopolitical factor in the war for dominance between China and Russia to challenge America.
So the only issue is this: that all peace lovers must speak out now.
The blockage of Gaza cannot continue.
It has never, it can, I don't know how it could be allowed to continue for a decade.
No Europe was comfortable with it.
America was comfortable with it.
Nobody, no civilized world would have allowed that two million people, close to two million people, have been blocked for a decade in the way they have been done without thinking that this will emerge.
You know, it is about humanity.
It's about and now what we are seeing now is also against humanity.
Guys, I'm going to use the bathroom.
I'll be right back.
I have to be a terrorist act of attacking civilians, children, and everybody.
But still, humanity demands that you go against those who have committed the crime, not a collective punishment.
You can punish people collectively.
You go against the...
I'm sure Israel have enough intelligence, enough military expertise to fish out the people who they call the terrorists.
But to go ahead the way they are doing now will not win them peace.
It will not win America peace.
It will only exacerbate the situation.
It will only create deep hated.
I don't know how we can come out of what is happening in Gaza today.
You know, how we can bring back to peace again.
You know, I've lived in Oslo for almost 35 years and I used to be a Labour Party politician and I followed the Oshluk process very, very much.
I've worked with the Norwegian people's aid and I know this conflict.
I know how we've been able to support Gaza in different ways.
Look, it is an open-air prison.
It is, you can accept it.
Things that are just unjust is unjust.
So how do you explain it away?
And how are you going to do it to bring peace?
I am not very sure about it.
So what we should do with these spaces, this social media, is to call on humanity and call for people to stand up for peace and to dissect and to find a way to help the people who are suffering on both sides.
I understand the Israelis often feel threatened because of their history, because of being the Holocaust, and whenever they are attacked, they feel that this is a collective, they've been indoctrinated to believe like that.
But the issue is that the reality is there for everybody to see, that what is happening will never win peace.
And now
It's China invited Syria.
I don't want to be speculative.
Give the guy red cupboard treatment.
And before he, after he came back, we saw what happened.
So, China is a very good friend to Iran.
And then, guys, Ryan's here on the note of helping people.
Ryan has a strategy.
Please go ahead, Ryan.
What's up, guys?
So, guys, I don't, you guys probably know this or probably don't.
It was just announced that within 24 hours, it was told by Israel to the UN that they need to evacuate.
They need to evacuate the northern Gaza Strip.
So, what I've done is I've put a tweet in the nest.
And we're trying to get this trending, trying to get this to go out to as many people.
And we need your guys's help.
I'm sorry, I muted everyone just for a second.
What we need to do is go to that tweet, one, like it, two, copy the contents of it, copy it word for word.
Just copy it, quote, retweet it, paste that into the quote retweet, and hit send.
The whole importance of this is it needs to be the same exact verbiage, same exact words.
Please don't get creative here.
If you want to get creative, do another tweet, but use the same exact words so we can push this out further and farther so that we can get some change done to prevent this from happening.
Because what could happen is we're afraid that if the ground invasion does happen in 24 hours, it's going to become a map, a bloodbath.
It's going to be dangerous.
It's going to be very, very bad.
So, I'm going to repeat it one more time: go to the tweet in the nest, hit the like button, copy the tweet in the nest, hit the quote retweet, paste, send.
Next, go to all the quote retweets and start spamming the likes on these things so you can get it pushed.
Even if you have a small account, that's fine.
Other accounts are going to help by hitting the like button on your quote retweet to make sure we can get it.
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What do we do?
This is the first call to action that's been happening in six days.
We appreciate your guys's help in doing this.
This is not about an analytics boost.
This is not about anything like that at all.
This is about getting a message out.
So, please do it.
Do this.
If you have any big account friends that have big accounts, please reach out to them.
Have them do it.
Tag them.
Hit them up.
Again, one more time.
Go to the tweet in the nest.
Hit the like.
Copy it.
Quote retweet.
Paste.
Send.
What is going on?
Go to the quote retweets that you see there and hit the like button on your segment.
We'd really appreciate it.
Jerry.
Really appreciate it.
This is big news.
We need your help.
Okay, guys.
Thank you so much, guys.
Gary, holy shit.
It's about time for a coordinated campaign like this.
Thank you, Ryan.
This is what we need to do.
For sure, guys.
I appreciate it.
Please do that.
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I'm going to bounce.
My DMs are going to be.
I leave my DMs open.
If you have any questions, shoot me a DM.
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Oh, my God.
Let's go.
Please, please, please, guys.
This is really, really important.
If you guys could do this, we'd really appreciate it.
And this isn't fake news.
There's a fake thing going around that this is propaganda.
It's not.
New York Times published it.
Just please do me a solid.
Just do that.
We'd really appreciate it.
What are you talking about?
Thank you.
I'll see you guys later.
I see a couple familiar faces in here.
Don't let Mo confuse you guys too much with his questions.
I'll see you guys later, guys.
Bye-bye.
I have a question for Mo actually, because you know I never we never get a chance to like be familiar with each other.
Like my biases are absolutely clear.
I'm from Syria, I support the Syrian state, I'm a fan of the SSNP, I like the idea of Greater Syria, I'm secular, all of those things.
But I just wanna know from your side of things, like where do you where do you come from?
W how why have you lived?
She's SSNP.
Uh I'm Arab and uh I didn't know political, so uh I have no Midwest for m my m my brand.
Midwest Sing, let's go.
It's as simple as that.
But the equation is more on your Arab.
Yes, please, yes.
Well, I have Pa I have Palestinian blood through grandma grandma, and I have Lebanese blood through my parents, among other.
That's the dominant blood in me.
Okay, so I understand that for the Lebanese, a lot of Lebanese are terrified of being drawn into the war.
No, we are used to it, right?
That's that's not the the existence of Hezbollah, you know, coming from Lebanon at the end of the day came through the same mechanism, an occupation.
A force entering, going all the way to Beirut, the capital, and attempting to occupy it, and therefore the resistance was founded, and that's it, full stop.
And same as Hamas, though there has many, you know, many hands have meddled into the creation of Hamas, and then after which, very hard to create a solid group organized while you're under such occupation, say as Israel.
Hezbollah doesn't have that level of occupation on top of it, though they also struggle in certain areas due to sanctions, embargoes, and so on and so forth.
But this is the last thing that I've done.
And again, I just said it hearing things that are happening.
They want to police the place.
And either they cordone it and they gain land.
That's the objective there, but mainly control it and police it.
There's not that many Hamas fighters.
That's the problem there.
And they're Hail Mary.
That's what you guys are talking about.
The Hail Mary doesn't come from their side.
It comes from those who support it and its cause and whether they believe it's reached a point where they have to get involved because they care for that asset.
That's a good question.
But I don't think that they they they care at the level you're you're communicating.
Well you know, we say Hail Mary because the Saudi Arabians were gonna sign that deal and we do want to save the resistance.
The resistance is important.
Um so I just wanna say that if from my experience and there was another guy, I think Mohammad Sauri in the in the other uh space.
There's a lot of defeatism in the Arab world.
You know, they're downtrodden people.
I mean, the stuff that we've suffered for the last 75 years is a testament why that can be.
So there's a tendency for people to be, you know, kind of like that evil donkey from.
I just wanted to push back there because, you know, I know what you're alluding to.
There's also, you know, common sense and logical thinking.
I'm for resistance.
So if that's where you want to press me and get the answer, that's there.
But, you know, you are either, you know, we simplify this now that you've pushed me.
You are playing checkers with someone who's playing chess.
Yay!
And that's a monkey playing chess.
Let's go!
Regardless.
Regardless.
Sometimes you can be pretty, you can get some wins on a checkers board, you know, if you're creative.
But at the end of the day, that's all you're doing.
And that's where my issue is.
And I stand by that.
I see your point.
And thank you for being a counterbalance.
It's important.
But I do, in my view, the last 24 hours, I think we're dealing with a paper tiger that was on the brink of defeat.
And I think that the time chosen now is the perfect timing to show that.
I also think that, and you know, I can say this because it's not going to be a problem.
I don't think Iran can officially.
Admit its involvement, the IRGC specifically.
But if you had to, I mean, if I had to bet, I really, I don't, I don't, I think this was planned.
I think this was really planned.
I don't think Hamas did this on the hundred percent.
Yeah, and I think specifically with the IRGC, and I think it was very strategic.
I think they appraised the situation of what happened in Ukraine and how you know Israel sent what is it, 80% of their ammunition.
That's just something I heard.
It's a figure.
They're underprepared.
I mean, this shocked everyone, right?
And I don't think this was a game of checkers.
I think the Mukauma is playing chess themselves.
And, you know, it was look, the way in which Iran or the resistance was handling ISIS was very methodical.
It was very strategic.
They're very smart about how they went about it.
It wasn't this kind of, you know, just blind action without understanding the consequences.
So, I mean, look, Hamas apparently, this is what they've admitted.
They said they've been planning this for two years, right?
I mean, two years just for this.
Um.
So, you know, talk about chess.
I think that's chess, you know?
That's again, if you're going to claim that a two-year mission is chess, then you definitely don't know the other side and the way they play their board.
I don't know.
I think the other side has to improvise a lot.
I think when you're looking at, for example, when Islamic Jihad was getting into clashes with...
When they declassify information on a 50-year cycle, you get to actually know the capabilities.
Right, but when it comes to dealing with their adversaries, since they can't control their adversaries, and therefore since they can't predict what their adversaries are going to do, notwithstanding these grand plans that they have, they still have to improvise.
And I think that's something you're underestimating: is that they do not know how to predict what the resistance is going to do.
And if they don't have that element, then you're dealing with improvisation.
Are we talking about America here?
Yeah, I don't think America.
You think America could have predicted this attack?
This serves America's interest, whether they predicted it or not.
Americans are pretty good at intelligence as well.
And especially if any of what we've heard is true, that the Egyptians passed intelligence to the Israelis.
You can damn hell well believe that.
Well, was it really that the Egyptians passed intelligence, or were they vaguely saying that the current humanitarian situation was...
Sniffed that piece of information as well.
You can bet your socks on that.
I don't know, because I don't know.
I could be wrong about this.
I'm not saying that I have the correct interpretation.
And if Iran can't do that, it sounded like the attacks.
They claimed no responsibility.
They claimed they did not come out and hold on, hold on, hold on.
You got to calm down a little bit, right?
So one, I want to address two things.
One, the way I kind of read the Egyptian warning from the source was that they were kind of, Israel probably interpreted this as the Egyptians prodding them about the unsustainability of the humanitarian situation.
But I could be wrong about that, all right?
The second thing, though, about Iran denying their involvement, yeah, I'm aware.
That's why I opened by saying they can't admit it.
Iran cannot admit having participated in planning this because that would make them a target right now.
It would make them responsible right now.
And I'm guessing that's not part of the plan they have, which is to be involved right now directly.
So if Iran was involved, you realize they would have to deny involvement, right?
For purposes of the strategy they're pursuing, unless Iran wants to go to war immediately or wants to suffer repercussions immediately, which I doubt it does.
But you ask me, and it's like, I see no way Hamas just did this on its own.
I see no way.
Iran has distanced itself, though, from what Hamas did, regardless of how has it distanced itself?
It has not claimed responsibility.
Dude, they're even making.
We know they haven't claimed responsibility because they can't.
Right.
But again, if any entity wanted to show a form of attack, they will claim such events to be there.
Why would Iran claim this if it's not part of their strategy to claim it?
That's what I'm trying to say.
So they will distance themselves, which is what they've done.
That's not what they're they're not distancing themselves.
What they're doing is they're avoiding any immediate repercussions from their obvious involvement.
Right.
So they're not in an attack formation.
They're not in a stance that is ready for attack.
Well, hold on, hold on.
That's not necessarily true.
There could be a plan here.
There could be a plan, for example, to have saying there's a PSYOP, and then they have a different approach in case what?
So are they looking for specific red lines to be broken for them to engage?
Or are they trying to lure?
I could give you a hypothetical where first.
Again, we're not talking hypothetical, but okay, before we get to that.
We have to be talking hypothetical because nobody knows what's going on behind the scenes.
So yes, I'm talking hypothetically.
So hypothetically speaking, I just want you, you mentioned one thing, which I just want to touch on real quick, if you don't mind.
The humanitarian window is important.
They are subjugating a lot of Palestinians right now.
We're talking, you know, people on life support in hospitals losing life support.
They're dying.
You're talking about, you know, obviously people are sheltering.
Schools are no longer safe to shelter in.
You name it.
It's panic.
It's scary.
It's dark.
They have lack of a lot of access.
And so when we talk humanitarian, I think, you know, there will be pressure on these people who are kidnapped.
That could come in the form of humanitarian aid, you know, release a couple of kidnapped people.
They capture them back.
They may allow little windows to go in and help people who really need it.
So there is some critical elements here taking place, and that is really important.
But what I see and now this is hypothetical is Israel is preparing itself very well to go in and engage on a policing mechanism in the Gaza Strip.
Look, I'm going to just tell it to you plainly.
Israel goes into the Gaza Strip and they're going to be slaughtered.
By Hamas.
Gaza Strip is a completely different ballgame.
They've been bombing and they've been using their air power for decades or over a decade now.
And this makes Israel seem really mighty and tough.
If Israel does a ground invasion into Gaza, you're going to see an unprecedented loss of casualties in the whole history of the IDF.
And if you don't think Hamas is waiting for that and is aware of that, I think you're going to be surprised by the events to come.
Yeah, I think Syrian girl, can you check your message, please?
Before all that happens, before all that happens, they're going to neutralize uh uh Israeli planes.
That's got to happen.
It can't they can't have planes and for this to be successful.
I don't know how they're going to do it.
So
Wait, who who who needs to neutralize the Israeli planes?
Just trying to catch that.
Yeah, yeah.
They don't have their ability.
Well, don't they?
I saw them they blew up a tank.
That's pretty good.
I think I missed that.
In the process of them entering Gaza on foot, that they're not gonna sustain casualties there.
But at the end, that's fair game in the sense that those are military assets moving in.
And so but I believe you will get an actual and this is sadly because of the suffocation, you will get a a support that takes place on the ground because it could be better than what could come.
And that's what I think is going to happen here.
I don't know.
For years I've been tweeting every time I saw a Palestinian woman getting pushed down or slapped or arrested, a kid, or I I just I I wonder where the Arab men where are the Muslim men?
I think I I found them.
So I don't think this is gonna end well for the Zydo state.
That's what I believe.
I think people really underestimate Hamas just Hamas alone's capabilities.
But again, Hezbollah gets involved, and I see no way out for Israel to face both of them without sustaining unprecedented damage and casualties in its entire history.
What prompts Hezbollah to take action?
Is it Gaza or is it another location?
Is it direct?
I think what they've said is the situation escalates, it could prompt them to get involved.
And again, I'm not claiming to know the insides of how all this is being planned or communicated within the resistance, but I'll tell you, I'll be very surprised if Hezbollah doesn't get involved in this.
So far, they've mostly defensive, right?
So how can they become offensive?
Do they have anything to provide?
So they're probably gonna sit back and wait for attacks and and what not.
I don't think like Hezbollah has the manpower or like the power to do uh an offensive move.
Well, I'll be surprised if Hezbollah is going to sit back and allow one of the most important assets of the resistance.
And remember, the linchpin of the Mukaoma is about rooting out the Zionist entity.
That's the entire linchpin.
That's what unites it.
That's what the whole thing is about, is eliminating the Zionist entity.
So if they sit back and allow this to happen, the Mukaumas...
They've just completely lost face as far as their entire cause is concerned.
And I don't know what the timeline of this is going to be, but I can't see them allowing for Hamas to be eliminated.
I just can't.
The problem there.
The problem there is.
Okay guys, I'm gonna implement the hands-up policy, um a little bit because I wanna keep the space going and I want to uh you know, have people stay here and listen.
So, uh uh mo first and then Shad, I guess, he waved.
Go ahead.
Sorry, I didn't know how to unmute.
G uh, Mo, can you go?
There you go.
It was muted.
Sure.
So, yeah, just and it's hard to stay focused.
So when we're talking about Hezbollah, again, they've distanced themselves from involvement.
They have congratulated Hamas, yes.
But any movement that has been taking place in the southern border of Lebanon, they have also made clear that they they're not involved and and so on.
Though there has been some retaliation because every time something happened in the south, Israel would attack positions of Hezbollah and it's just a form of uh b bolstering.
But
To draw them in, right?
I will be very clear here that they have probably the best military capability in the Middle East as we speak, all right, out of all, because they have combat experience and they've combated with Israelis themselves, and along other aspects, they have helped significantly in Syria.
So, combat experience-wise, they're probably the toughest dudes you can get, and they know that.
But the problem here, the next problem is they also have a chessboard to deal with.
And in Lebanon, yes, it provides it security, but it's a fragile one, and so they're going to need to win the hearts and minds of the Lebanese people to activate.
And the only thing that unites Lebanon is incursion into Lebanon itself.
Like, you're there, you claim to be there to defend Lebanese territory.
This is where we come together.
But other than that, don't get any ideas.
This is not our problem.
That's the whole, like, if you look at Lebanon's whole, I'm not saying all of Lebanon.
50% of Lebanon will say to the hizab, hey, you do not let this get out of hand.
These are Palestinian brethren.
This is the cause.
The cause is always Israel.
And so, this is the conundrum they sit in.
That's their chessboard.
And this is important.
So, I don't think they will do anything without gaining the right amount of support where it gives them protection, right?
And that is important.
Okay, we have nineteen eighty four's hands up, but in order to provide balance I'm gonna speak a bit first.
Uh you kind of to believe what you're saying, you have to believe that Iran did all of this
Knowing that ha what will end up happening is that Israel is just gonna occupy Gaza and Hamas will be defeated.
So that I think is illogical.
I just don't think it's logical.
I I I can't see why they would do that.
It seems to me that they've got this all planned and they have a contingency for every scenario.
Um so now nineteen eighty four and then Shahad, and then we have uh Nexi after that and then back to Moon.
Yeah, yeah, I'm here.
I just uh needed to unmute.
So I was uh I was going to say that a couple of things.
The first thing was that just to stress that Hezbollah is defensive, has always been defensive, and to go from defensive to offensive is probably gonna take a couple of decades, maybe.
Now, I'm not like professional when it comes to warfare, but I do know that it's not something that just happens overnight.
Sure, they can fire Katushas, missiles, and whatnot.
They can, you know, bomb tanks and whatnot, but it's still gonna be defensive.
Like, they won't start moving into the occupied territories all the way down and free gas.
Maybe, maybe.
And there is a possibility that they could move a bit forward, take a bit of land and fight, like fight for that land for a couple of months, years, whatnot, and then slowly move again.
But it's mainly defensive.
And when we focus on Hezbollah and say that, okay, Hezbollah is going to attack, I find it a bit hard to see that, okay, Hezbollah is actually going to go ahead and attack.
And the other thing, which is more important, is that we need to realize that America is Hollywood, right?
And Hollywood haven't really won any wars except the war of sinning, corrupting minds, and stuff.
Because they basically went into Vietnam and said, like, we are the greatest, we are the best.
But they got slapped.
So, if like we have this fantasy that America is still a superpower and they can do what they want to do, I think we need to have a reality check that it's not what it used to be or what we are used to see in the Hollywood movies.
Okay, Chad, go ahead.
Hi guys, uh uh can you hear me?
Yes.
Yes.
Thank you.
Sorry.
I'm still laughing at uh Haas uh uh uh asking about uh why babies are at a rave, but uh it's really funny.
Um yeah, first of all, congratulations on you guys.
Uh uh for some reason this space is more interesting than the Mario one.
Maybe it's because of the absence of Loga.
But um yeah, on on my side, just for perspective, I'm not uh
I'm not as educated in these different pol geopolitical things as you guys, but but I do have a few questions and I think it's going to be important in the coming days, whatever happens, whatever we see nukes flying over or we see uh you know carriers being gathered, whatever happens, I think it it would be pretty useful for some of the listeners here to have um channels of information.
I know there's a lot of different telegram channels that are very interesting, but uh I'm curious about you know I'm on yours, Syrian girl, but um I don't know which one should we follow.
I think it would be pretty interesting to have a bunch uh of them, but I don't know if that's that's possible.
Do you guys have any to recommend?
Um so mine has been a des desolate wasteland because I've put all my efforts into Twitter unfortunately, but I am gonna develop a list maybe next time we have a space I'll give it, but if anyone else wants to send me what their recommendations are or suggest some now, please go ahead.
I believe Mo had his hand up after that as well.
Oh, and of course uh Nexi as well.
So Mo and then Nexi.
Yeah, um I kind of lost my point here.
I I let you can go to the next speaker.
It's my fault.
Sorry, I derailed the whole thing.
I'm sorry.
Sorry.
That's all right.
I forgot what we were talking about as well, to be honest.
Um, Sean?
Brave babies.
Ah, yes, yes.
Sh uh uh sorry, Nixie, go ahead.
Uh hey guys, sorry, I'm running running late uh dressing up uh for work.
Uh okay, I just uh really wanted to say hi to Syrian Girl because I have been following her, admiring her for years.
She's incredibly brave woman uh for doing incredible work that she does.
Um
Uh also, of course, I am uh supporting Palestinian people because uh this is not a war.
In a war, there are rules, there is a Geneva Convention, this is not a war, this is a genocide, there is no going around that.
Also, Netanyahu cancelled elections, there is absolutely no way uh any uh truly democratic person can uh justify that.
There's no reason, there no absolutely nothing can justify that.
Same like nothing can justify Zelensky.
Um I'm from Kosovo and please guys, uh wherever you are, I'm begging you raise just I'm just begging you to raise raise awareness about uh the blockade Serbian people are suffering here since the month of May.
No Serbian goods are allowed in.
S Serbs cannot leave Kosovo.
across the so called borders that USA because USA has recognized Kosovo as an independent state Kosovo also Israel of Europe.
Exactly, yes.
Yes.
And of course, Obanian Mafia is the greatest in Europe and possibly the world.
The question of babies, absolutely no, no, no, I don't I can't see how anyone without proof can even consider that to believe it.
I mean and don't forget, I come from a region that suffered in the last 30 years about four wars, like incredibly brutal wars.
I'm talking genocide, ethnic cleansing, and horrible stuff.
When
Muslims fight specifically.
They do not rape.
They do not cut off baby heads.
That is what is experienced ex my experience from Yugoslavia.
Okay?
So no, Serbian people know that this is not truth.
There was a huge Israeli like sign flag on one of our really big skyscrapers in Belgrade.
The co-owner is, of course, Israeli, so he did that.
It it caused a great con you know, a problem in the city, in the capital.
It it has been taken down.
Um yeah, I'm just here to support m uh always um
My Muslim and Christian brothers in Palestine, and I really hope and pray for you every single day.
And stay safe, everyone.
Thank you so much for your emotional response and your statement.
And I'm honored that you followed me.
So thank you so much.
Any speakers?
Yeah, I just want to briefly respond.
And then I actually have to get going.
So thanks for having me on.
But I want to respond to Mo, which is the kind of chessboard that Hezbollah is dealing with.
And the idea that Hezbollah is only defensive.
And I think there's truth to that.
But also when you look at the biggest conflict recently that Hezbollah has been involved in, it's been in Syria, not Lebanon.
So I think Hezbollah is more than capable of fighting on not on the home turf, right?
So that's something to take into consideration.
But granted, this would bring the war to Lebanon.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
I didn't fucking interrupt you.
I listened to you the whole time.
So shut the fuck up and let me speak.
All right.
You're testing my patience here.
That's not rude.
Yeah, yeah.
So Jesus Christ.
Yeah, Jesus Christ.
Anyway, um.
You know, the home turf element is a factor.
But here's the thing: even in the 2006 war, there were elements on the Lebanese right, the Phalange legacy right, right, that was still, you know, up in arm.
They weren't fully united, okay?
So I don't actually see a situation where you have 100% unity of the Lebanese population in any war, right?
And there's never been that, actually.
Hezbollah has done a great deal to foment alliances and kind of manage the domestic situation to a point.
But look, if it gets to a certain threshold in Gaza where it becomes so intolerable and outrageous for the entire Arab world, I see no reason why Lebanon would be an exception to that.
Second of all, I also think the probability is, I mean, look, the pretext for the 2006 invasion was what, right?
Wasn't it the claim that Hezbollah kidnapped some IDF soldiers and brought them across the border?
So Israel, maybe they made something up.
It doesn't matter.
They went into Lebanon for a reason.
So all Hezbollah has to do is something small to provoke that and therefore justify in the eyes of its population intervening.
Is it going to be an adventurism where it just goes in gung-ho?
No, there's going to be a tit for tat.
There's going to be an escalation.
And at a certain point, it's going to be clear that Israel has encroached on Lebanese territory in a way that's unacceptable.
Remember what happened in 2006?
So I disagree with you that Hezbollah can only fight if Israel just goes in.
I mean, that's not what happened in 2006 technically when they justified it on the basis of kidnapping IDF soldiers, not just going in willy-nilly.
I mean, maybe that's what they did, but that wasn't the narrative.
So to be clear, also, there's a border dispute between Lebanon and Israel.
At any point, that could escalate just because of that.
The status of the Sheba Farms is enough to light a match, right?
So I don't agree.
I think that...
And also, one last thing I want to say.
And then I do have to go.
But the domestic situation in Lebanon, now, granted, I don't live there.
I just know people who live there.
And from what I know, the situation is so intolerable economically because of sanctions and other reasons.
The sanctions obviously being related to the
to Hez Hezbollah and Iran.
So
You know, at at what point
Might it be possible that, you know, people really don't have that much to lose anymore and they want to relieve this pressure and finally, um,
Finally, uh
Finally, participate in a war that's been the justification for why they've had these sanctions in the first place.
Because they're in the Mukama, they're not going to sell out the Palestinians and they want to liberate Palestine.
And that's why they've been bearing the brunt of all this the whole time.
So it's like, at what point do people in Lebanon, because of the desperate economic situation, simply accept the necessity of taking this to its conclusion?
You know?
So that's a huge factor I wouldn't underestimate.
But with that being said,
Uh Siri and Girl, thank you so much for having me on.
Um it's been a good space.
Uh unfortunately, I do have to go.
Gotta go to bed, but um yeah, it's been great.
So, uh, you know, what happened after 2006 was 2008, and that was a bit of a situation for Hezbollah and Amal, where they lost a lot of support don't care.
'Cause I don't I don't need to deal with uh more babble.
More babbling.
And yip yip.
Where I have to wait like twenty minutes to speak, you know?
But I I I do want to debate that guy one-on-one.
Sometime.
All I heard him say is something about like 2008.
Oh, why didn't Hezbollah get involved in 2008?
Because they didn't need to.
Israel did a ground invasion of Gaza.
Hezbollah needed to probably recover from the 2006 war.
And the situation now is totally different.
And plus, this was planned by all of them.
Right?
So that's another thing.
So yeah.
But um
I don't think we have any more news.
I don't think we have any more news.
Don't think we do.
Uh guys, I might actually stream tomorrow.
Might actually stream tomorrow.
Tomorrow night.
Or sorry, tomorrow early.
Stream early tomorrow.
But if I stream early tomorrow, I have to go to bed earlier.
than usual today.
So I want to contribute to this cycle
But I'm really fucking hungry and I gotta go eat.
It's been a great stream, guys.
And I will see you.
Yeah.
I will see you.
I will see you.
I will see you.
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