Rise of the Mecha-Tankies

2022-07-19
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everybody ladies and gentlemen wow what a day it's been what a day it's been what a pout day it has been guys there's some problems right i took away
way too long extended vacation way too long i had no intention of taking that many days off but i have an excuse if you'll hear me out i'll basically give you my excuse because we have a lot to talk about today with a lot to talk about
a lot to talk about not sure wy anything will do
i ok first of all this forty eight i tucking thirty thirty six
forty eight on't bk you know but two days of that's left so you've got to keep that in mind i got some sleep the day before yesterday like three hours or something so i'm going have to smoke a joint tonight or something to go to bed which is fine it's like my emergency sleeping bill but i'm fine we're going to go we're going to get through the stream and it's going to be it's not going to be an issue
it is not going to be an issue it's just that i got a lot of talk about and glad to be back guys i'm glad to be back i'm glad to be back because i've never been more reassured in my belief in what this is in what inct is i mean i've never been
be more reassured of my belief it seems like everybody who's a hater cannot ever give us anything substantive and even the people who appear closest to us politically right the fast stock dens when they decided to disagree with us about something they were not able to justify it rationally and they have literally turned
turned into full time haters inspiring against me like these other leftist it's boggling it is fucking crazy right but i think that's gota that's gota mean something right it absolutely has to mean something and i'll tell you what i
that's absolutely true thank you so much johnny we shate you but i take away from that
i think i think it reinforces
my belief in what this is and what infrared is
this this idea of a
marxis lenin is
media platform
but we're not going to beat these ki shi kind of pat sock them whatever
you know fucking
leftoid m ls were basically just
i don't fuck and know the non aligned movement in the twenty first century or some shit
we are
guys i'm not
he don'o
you guys
i don't think that i'm like
i have belief in this i don't have certainty though right
i don't have certainty i have belief
but i don't have certainty you know
i do sometimes really think about the possibility
but i may just be crazy i'm maybe i'm just a fucking crazy schizophrenia person
and that's what this whole fucking thing is about
just you think
that there would be such
you know
i've never been confronted
with
in opposition i couldn't dismantle
right
somehow
in terms of like what fundamentally makes this infrared project unique
and one of the tough things about the infrared project
and when i say tough i just mean it in the sense of
m
having confidence in it if you want to put it that way
we are just in such oncharted territory i wish there was precedent we could draw from it go oh yeah we're going to be like these people from
you know from park and france where these people from
you know wow
i don't know
these people in indonesia are these people in japan or
i don't fuck in all right
there's no precedent for this ship
thank you so much so box to give these people the benefit of the doubt
because maybe they knew something about youm that i didn't
but it's clear to me they're just pathologically obsessed ankle bit yeah i'm definitely going to be getting to that
i am definitely going to be getting to that
stuff but thank you so much soap box
yeah we're definitely going to get in get into that
gritty gritty
but guys i have not gotten any sleep and the reason is is because
so
i took the day off dreaming on sunday and the reason for that is because like i woke up at six pm
and i spent the whole day kind of
reading right
and then when
when it was late and it was time to scream i was slep
i really don't have anything to scwream right now i kinda feel like i should
do it right
i feel like
i should release our writing addressing this whole pat sock them thing because
i saw that it was getting out of control
and i saw that it was going to create a lot of confusion so i wanted to get ahead of the game
and make a substack addressing everything
just so it's there on record right
so i thought i would finish it that night
right and that night i got in like
thousand words or something
and i actually spent a lot of that night reading
right reading up again just to refresh my mind and stuff
and you know the day later i planned on finishing it and then streaming which was yesterday
i really did plan on streaming yesterday you know it is not been
think the last time that i've taken
three days off streaming i mean it
oh jeeze it's got to have been like when i was in l a or maybe even when i got banned i think that was
i think it was when i got banned to be completely honest with you right
the other one i got banned
right yeah i got baned after i got cover too the last time i've taken a break
from streaming for that long
was when i when i was banned right
so it is not a very common occurrence
for me to be doing that
at all right
and
i do kind of feel guilty about it and i did feel guilty about it by the way i did
but here's something i can just promise you i can promise you this ok
on my word
i'm my fucking word
yesterday
i woke up
ok i woke up at like four or five or something
i think five
i sat on my couch with my laptop
and i did not leave that couch until seven am
besides to use the bathroom and besides to eat i didn't even go to the gym i skipped another day at the gym
i did not leave my couch
i was typing until seven am
seven thirty am actually something like that
so
yeah i just tried to go to bed after that and i really just could not i could not sleep at all
and i think probably i couldn't sleap because i was really anticipating
the responses to the substact
and i don't know s i don't know
my mind was so fucking burnt out i probably desperately am doing
probably desperately need a lot of sleep right now
not now but like tonight and i'm i've probably doing a lot of serious brain damage to the
to myself
you know
by
doing another no sleep
whatever twenty four hour thing
after having spent all that time in that article
and if you guys think that's impressive
it's not it's really not
and i'll tell you why
because i used to be able to churn out like
thirty thousand words in a fucking day b thank you so much love tony appreciate you
this used to be nothing i used to be able to do like yeah thirty thousand in a day
this was only like what seventeen thousand words so
you'd know that i wasn't just typing my thougts right i was really putting
thought intom
aspert intuiten
you know
i wanted the it's such a shame because i shared the twitter
and you know the overwhelming response that i've gotten
from people outside of the community among the left
has more or less been something like oh this is just drama he'sj doing this out of drama
i just find that really sad because it's like
no i actually
make
very coherent
ak has a connection to the pre one thousand nine hundred and fifty c and world war two generation m
you have a continuity of thinking with them
they were americans
they spoke and acted on these terms
i appreciate that gquirs thank you so much forever keep fighting con
the vision lifvets through you
cross our enemy twenty thirty six
thank you so much new american ple appreciate you maam
so yeah i mean it's just one of those things where
i
i really did
try to lay out
thank you so m amiriel with the fifty holy fuck
jesus muriel thank you so much you economic males and the chat
y yeh thank you so much manppreciate you so so much man appreciate you
thank you
obvious who argues thing so much
keep up the good work
thank you so much ak
thank you mamam
yeah i mean uh
why it's just a shame because
you know i did spend a lot of time
trying to coherently
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clarify that's the word i was looking for guys i got mostlely you got to forgive me
i really did clarify a lot of things i feel like in that
in that substat
and they were not just about the drama i had with like the four or five you know
coks
that the pad sock thems it went so
like far beyond that i wanted
the basically give you guys a little bit of where i was coming from like the whole
we live in socialism thing and
you know
but what is the whole deal with the professional managerial class
and i kind of went through the kind of origins
in soviet history
of that managerial class and then you know how that factored into the cyo soviet split
and the so so i i'm
i'm kind of satisfied
with that stub stak
i
for what it was worth
and you know was it worth skipping a stream over
i am not sure
i'm not sure exactly
you know i could have divided it
but
whatever right i don't like skipping streams like that i just don't
um you know but in any case
let's talk a little bit about the pat sock split
before we get into anything because
i actually want to do at least dedicate some of this stream
too kind of
briefly and simplifying the substack for those of you
who may fd may have found it too like nce right i just want to
use the stream to make it more simplified and
also want to explain the context right
so there's a group
and let's call them the source the socialist couples right
the hipster buys war it's as a guy nm andrew s all fox
i forgot to fock and tell you about saturday's twitter space with yankee tanky and andrew saturn
where they like raates quod because they couldn't fucking debate but yankee oh my god did i wish i was streaming that shit
we'll get to that we'll get there's a lot to there's a lot of ground to cover i have a lot of jit to talk about right
i'm still trying to get the vod i start of the recording for that so i can upload it
his that was beautiful and guises as you can see
for those of you that were in that twitter space
i am wearing
i sh uh um
a shirt today
because yankee tankee said it's against the koran to wear white beaters
and i was the hypocrite for wearing a wife beeter
so i took i took his advice into account
and i decided that i'm going to cover up my sleeves and cover up my shoulders
to cover up my very sexual muscles you know these
extremely sexualizable muscles
that i have go and like that that chest hair in the back hair
you on the armhir and all that stuff so this is i have to be a little more modest and i decided to take his advice
because i don't want to be that hypocritical
so as you can tell today i'm actually young
wearing
an over shirt
ok
so i hope i hope those of you who are you know
cognicant of my sinful and hypocritical ways
cold at least git me some slack
give me some credit for that
i
but anyway i
yeah it's like the andrew saturn guy you
socialism train
and then back space guy
and also carlos wright carlos has but heurd and traumatized for life
and you know who
blame them
like to you know
it's like someone the joke aor traumatized for life and iy're just like fucked up forever right
but
yeah these four are really sick fucked up people
and you know you'd think i'm just saying that
you'd think this was like something petty or something but it's really not
and these people are really
really malicious have done really
really me beyond unprincipled like
we're not just talking about like a theoretical disagreement we're talking about like
spreading the most disgusting lies you caun think of
so for example bad space guy
we' was trying to lie about why our discord got
taken down and he said it was
nazi means were being shared in the
he made up this really sick shit that he knew wasn't true
but he was he's just saying it anyway
and the rest of them are doing the same they're like making shit up
and they're they're outright lying they don't fucking care right
and it's like
these people were so close to our tribe
so it's it's actually shocking
seeing them resort
to these tactics that
you know you'd think we're otherwise reserved
we're like the glowy fuck and synthetic laugh
but no
those four
i're literally churning out a bunch of
hate accounts all accounts
they're ex sending death threats they're making these alacons me they're becoming full time fucking
you know those full time haters
i mean you
yeah this is it's so fuck i mean it's like you'd think that the takeaway from this would be
oh yeah we hate infrared
so like we're just going to do our successful thing right
but like no they have actually committed
trying to like take us downow
they've actually committed
they've actually decided that infrared is the number one obstacle
to the socialist party of america's growth
and so what they basically think is that if they take down infrared
this new party they pulled out of their ass the socialist party of america
is going to be able to grow all they have to do is take down our you know me and
the the platform
and then they're like shitty little socialist party will grow
and
yet that is worthy of life
i i i made this
i want to draw a line because i don't want people like that
to ever present themselves is like friendly anymore right
you know when you see like a fat s j w
like purple hair and it's like some fat s j w like
whatever cowards some shit
i want you to look at these like
hipsters
who are like patriotic sock dems whatever the fuck they are
in the same way and i want you to
i want you to look at people like bad space guy and like
people like people like them right it's fair game
people who
are coming from that millew like i don't give a buck
at this point
if you've personally done
anything fucked up
if you're from that crowd
and you're still associating with those people
bike
just you need a fuck all the way off right you can you know a fuck all the way off
and i want to make a hard line between us right because i don't want more people like that buzzing around us anymore
that guy also johnny socialism
that guy johnny socialism
would literally
he would get on his knees and beg to suck my cop
every focking day
the on block him
but i'm your friend it's like a fucking forty year old man
didn't do anything else
wy are not your enemy has
and i forgot why i blocked him
be ase i did go on those blockings for you once were like
there's all these like pack sid kle bighters thank you so much won't stop to hell with them
thank you so much mam
there was like these pat sock ankle biters right
i just want to block his d like bro i don't i don't like these people who are like oh i'm not your enemy has
but i'm just going to like be a fucking ankle bitter it's like not
you are my like
literally fuck off go do your own thing right
so i just block that and the reason by the way is because
i don't want to start shit in public with them so i just fok and block them like
fuck off i want to starting public with you
there are some people in c pi
that i've noticed actually
who at least claimed to be from there right and i've noticed the same thing were like
you know they kind of
they're they're the just like are are like always
pitching and whining about us and shit so like
ust just for the sake of not causing division i just block them right
but
you know i don't know where this is coming from or like what mill you this is but it's like
i really feel like i need to make it
i needed more clarity about where does infrared stand compared to these people
yeah where's this fucking like passive aggressive like
i really don't like
infrared
like like
are you know what guys are you
really dislike infrared
okay
what do you want
not we'm not gonn to stop
like
do you not like watching me or do you not like me breathing and fucking existence
because it sounds like you're trying to say
i don't like the fact that haz
actually exists
and it's like i feel like that's a you problem i feel like you need to get over that or you know
declare yourself and avove yourself as my focking
you know
i can't even say onsesream but it's like
what do you want right sounds like your problem is that i exist
not that you don't want to watch infrared or associate you don't have the fucking associate with us
you don't have to have anything to do with infrared like
infrared is not for any everybody
ok it's just not
it is definitely not
for everybody so it's like
you don't have to like this shit
but i
i noticed
i don't want to like be just
whatever like
throw too many people under the fuck at bus but it's like
i just kind of noticed this tendency as like
you know the whole glasses wearer thing like i'm not i mean it literally but it's like
these fucking nerds were like engineers and coders and shit
i feel like these are the ones who got the problem right these are the ones who like
have this inherently negative disposition
boord what infrared is
and it's it's like look at all of the people who have like outed themselves these deranged fucking psychopaths
and it's like they're literally the
win essential focking pm c
what
i always respected c p u a twenty thirty six because it's clear that it comes from a place of honor
continuity and faith in america and its historic communist party
this spa two point zero thank theyarre treing is none of that
thank you soap box yeah i mean it's so fucking stupid because
you know it's like artificial like they're claiming that we're reviving the spa you're not reviving anything
he's is taking the name of a dead party
and you're laying claim to that name despite having nothing to do in terms of continuity
with that party
so they're just trying to create a party from scratch and it's think it's because they got kicked out of the p c usa or some shit out i don't fuck and know right
but yeah let's just make more parties guys let's just
and then you know i talked about this in my substack i was like
like wow you always call us terminally online and shit but like at the very least
we're not trying to say we can create a party
it's because of our fucking internet ideology right there's an existing communist party and
if we have a specific ideology that we consider superior we should prove that in practice right we we're not going to fucking just
make a party based on
you know based on some fucking internet shit right
but that's what they're doing they're making an entire party
based on their private group chat
right there private fucking what's pp
gropes
which is just fucking pathetic
right
um yeah so it's like
yeah i in the substect i do explain to see i i address all pretty much all the criticisms
of the twenty thirty six strategy
in that substat
yeah i
i specifically
don't know how we came to be associated with those people but
i mean they were always bad optics you know
i never said shit because i'm not a fucking shitter but like they were always bad optics these fucking nerves right
the only sad thing now is like
these people are now
dedicated they've literally are going to and theyse are literal people with kids
these are fathers with fucking children these are thirty
people in their mid thirties are doing this shit right
they've now decided that because they have been so humiliated right their ego has been so shattered and humiliate
happened so many times before
they're going to have to dedicate their life
begetting revenge
you're a fucking loser dude
you're a fucking loser just because you got fucking humiliated on the internet
you're claiming to be like this revolutionary true working class communist
and yet instead of doing anything even according to your own terms of what that means
the like
create a working class movement
you're going to dedicate your whole bucking life to trying to get revenge
because we' buck and ratio you ratio you want twitter or some shit
you're a fucking loser
you're a fucking low life loser
but the sad thing is that you're not anonymous
you fucking socialist cuckold you're not fucking anonymous people
so good luck with whatever you're going to
you know good luck with whatever you have
ah
hooking up because
yikes i would not throw fucking bricks in glass houses i just would not
you're literally trying to pull down the cpi and cause division within the or
no here' here' is my red line
my red line is that i am not in c p i so i don't gve a fuck what goes on
whatever internal conflicts you have in c p i
that has nothing to do with me
i am not in c p i i am not accountable
to c p i
so don't fucking bite my ankle like i have anything to fuck and do with that
because i don't
it's that fucking simple i'm not in cpi
i'm not
i have never been in c p i ever
ok
so
i'm not accountable to whatever shit you have going on
thank you see han
it's just that simple
and this is not coming from caleob it's coming from some claimed members right they would rather tear you down than to build anything themselves
that's simple
they don't want proletarian power
they want to suffer in self misery thank you rup your though appreciate you so much
yeah
yeah i mean i think i feel like most of the people in c p i are not like that
you know
as far as i know
they're not
but
you know at the same time all thease people who always come to me you know let's just be honest can i can be honest with you guys about something i mean
these people think they're slick
who are like engineering this shit
and they're not
there is a concentrated effort
i'm not exaggerating this i'm not lying to you i'm not making this up
we have intel on this
we have source we have
people who've confessed to it
right
there is a concentrated effort
by
you know these anonymous leftists
o
pedophile
the you know the ones i'm talking about right
they come from there
and
there's been this concentrated effort
to basically cause a division between
hey look and myself
right
and it's been a very methodical thing where
they've kind of
reached out to cpi members and kind of like
acted like they were part of c p i and they'ir friendly and there they're basically trying to like create
some kind of rift right
so we know that right
the whoever's doing it you're not slick
but at the same time if you are a member of c p i and you happen to fall a victim
with that effort
i'm not going to blame those anonymous fucking glowy feds trying to soew to vision i'm going to blame you you're a responsible fucking grown adult
so if you want to ankle bite me you can just fuck right off i mean if you have something to critique
ta
right
if you have something to debate
debate i'm not saying i'm shutting down all criticism
i don't shut down criticism
like if you're just going to fucking like bitch about me for no reason like
i'm not going to entertain it i don't know what you want i just don't know what you fuck and want
right
i don't know what you want for
i i'm
again
infrared is its own thing
trust me infraever is its own thing
ok
if it wasn't its own thing i would not be as fucking aggressive
and
you know controversial as i am i would i would you know
i wouldn't do that to cayle
i take responsibility for what i do
memlong i c pi
so are many here
don't believe the reckors
this is how it works
the wedge is always also internal
p i is expanding rapidly lately thank you so much chris moakppreciate you
yeah i mean
yeah a lot of my community is in c p i c p i is a think tank
right i don't know exactly how it works
but it's a think tank
and it's not an it's not an exclusive
thing so you can join c p i
and also be part of like anything else it's not an exclusive thing right
but at the same time
you know
if there is
i
i know but i know for a fact there are some people who don't like me i
and all i want to say to that end is it's like
that has nothing to do with me don't try to hold me accountable for shit like i'm not in c p i right
so i have whatever drama or whatever the fog i mean i have nothing to do with it right
that's all i insist upon i'm not
you know i don't mind if people in c p i don't like me i don't mind if they you know they hate infrared or whatever
but like just
i feel like that belongs there
you don't
don't don't expect me to like have an opinion on that because i don't
right i don't care
m
if there are show runners that have a problem with me then obviously i got to care i
is in that's i'm in the infrared collective that's pretty much
you know
that's the only group i'm accountable to right now
right
um
and i think that i mean that much
cauln not be more clear right
that much could not be more clear but
let me put it this way i have no i never had an intention in the first place
the light
have a foot in c p i like i'm not there to influence c p i or to have like i i fully respect it as its own thing
and i read listen
it's not just c p i like
this shit i do is very controversial it's very divisive it's very controversial
and it is not for anybody
i can't really think of an organization i would want to take responsibility for my
my actions right
re infred's actions
i mean this is very experimental infreds a very very
experimental thing
and i recognize that right a's just
do have to recognize that as its own thing we are not part of
some other greup
so that is just that simple
i
o yeah
bas
love this ubstackos
keep it up
gorilla
son
in for a red rising
thank you so much tristan
i do have to say something about peter coffin
ok
now a lot of people ask me hows why did you include peter kaufin in the thumbnail of the article
and i think i mentioned him once in very much in passing in the article i i quoted peter coffin populism
bee i very i very much disagree with is
orsion of populism right
and i'm going to talk about that very briefly
just so there's no misunderstanding or mis
no
miscommunication
a regarding the significance
bas
thank you ghost
um so
broadly speaking
you know he's
peter coaufman has always kind of
for a long time he's been like passive aggressively sub tweeting mean shit
which i ignored right
and that's not enough for me to like give a shit right but it's like
when i started to see that he was like signal boosting these sick fucking people
the sick deranged fucking people in shit
it kind of gave me the impression that like oh like he doesn't see
that that what that person did was so beyond the pale
so i'm pretty sure he knew about
what
what that sick fox said about samira right i'm pretty sure he knew about that
and
you know like the fact that you would you
i don't know right so to me it just kind of seemed like okay you're
you're like clearly
your disagreement with me is so severe that it's like
you're going to like
look the other way when it comes to shit like that to people who are your supposed allies right
m
but
you know regardless of that
he did say that you know
he just has a different view of interpersonal interaction that's what he said
and he also said that he
he didn't know about the more intense
fishes stuff
that the person was doing
and
he basically said that you know he's not interested in you know any kind of conflict or drama
n know it so with that being said you know don't
don't make an enemy of peter ffin don't go after him don't
you know don't
don't talk shit about him don't
now don't
don't make it bigger than it has to be
we are just people who completely disagree probably about everything
but you know i'm glad at least he's not fucked up in the head and deranged
where he's going to make it his life
mission
right to try and bring me down
so he's pretty you know
he's pretty content and confident in his own position so i can respect that much
where he's not going to try and bring me down right so if that's the case
we just go our own ways you know don't don't don't don't make an enemy of them don't be attacking them
you know he's not
an enemy
but we're just not part of the same tendency right it's one of those things it's like
a lot of people you know
that are not enemies but also
we're not part of like the same
ill you were not part of the same ideology or whatever i
and
that i mean it's just that it's as simple as that we are just not part of the same
ideology
and i do feel like
the main
differences
were outlined in the substack itself
i
you know i do think that at least ideologically or theoretically
kind of bears more in common with them
you know whatever regardless right
it's just
it's that simple you just
so ya
just want to make it clear we're not going to make peter coffin
know at least in so far as you know he's not going to be
i
attacking me in the way those others scumback and when i say that by the wy i don't mean theoretical disagreements i don't care about that right
i mean like you know when he starts
engaging in these personal attacks okay yeah then you're like
you're an enemy i guess right
but he's not doing that it's just theoretical stuff so whatever you know that's not enough to make someone an enemy
i think
so that's that's my stance on that whole thing
um and i don't want to have to repeat myself so if anyone asks you know
just
clip this and show it to them
that
peter kaufin is not an enemy
i don't want people you know
amm
take im out to be one
i don't want it youy all to be meaning on him or any that shit
just
but let's go our own ways or go our different paths right
so
yap
and by the way like the fucking stream
like the fogus dream right now mother fucers
like the god danced dream i don't get called a fucking grifter
nothing
to light the stream
right
better like that damn stream
you know in terms of drama
there's not much
to be said
in general
right
most of it
the ol shit was covered in the carlos stream which by the way you tube is not taken down
despite his privacy complaint and it's been well
more than forty eight hours
if the channel was supposed to be deleted it hasn't been deleted
yes thank you love toly areciate like the dream
uh so if you want the drama i guess you should go to that one but you know in terms of the substag this one is actually about the substance
of why
pat sock or pat sock ms are
just a different thing than mecca tankey is right
and all people like tos isn't mecca tankes like
forty
like
that's not
that's not like a label
or
adults
so
ok you know want to me be clear about something
don't be calling yourselve mecca tankies in real life
let's fuck and cring
ok
don't don't be going in real life me like out of a meka tank you don't bring that shit into the real world
it's an internet thing
it's an internet thing because it's like
it's an aesthetic signifier with a lot of ideological connotations
but it's an internet things it a'll be cringe and like go in public and that's that's how you fuck it all up this is a virtual digital
political ideology right this is a by
think of it as a vibe it's a vibeeshift
it's not like a falc in
you know
they give it in terms of art as an artist
ok
got to think of it see
there's speek you know look
i'm not saying it's a bad there's nothing wrong with autism there's nothing wrong with autism
but i have noticed
that people
who claimed to be autistic or have been diagnosed with autism may be
kind of think that
every literally everything i say
has the same degree of seriousness
attached to it
and it is like
is a signifier for like an immediate form of political practice so
a lot of people heard the meca tanky thing
and like literally think that in real life we're going to build meccas in real life
that we actually think this and we're actually planning this
i
so
i want people to know right that you' got
you kind of
i don't know man i just
i just you got to there's difference between a vibe and an idea i just feel like there's a difference been a y a vibe is like a by if you get it you get it i don't know what the fuck and tell you right
um
marx is trending marx is always trending on tweitter i don't think that's much of an achievement
he's always you
rnding right
but you know the word tanky isn't really a serious designation either i just
i want to be the mecca tankes you know what i mean we're tank youes but we're we're not like the
and not like the old style ones where the where the new tanks
tankeyes two point zero that's what it is right mecca tankyes
so that's the vibeeshit that's what that whole thing is about
and
guys
let me i want to explain make the tankes before i get into the substa that kind of simplify it
i
i want to explain
all mecca tanky means all tankey two point zero means
is mark it's a shorthand version of
marxism leninism in the age of multipolarity in the postcde world right
that's the aesthetic form which is influenced by fon wen on
it people's bunk
and uh
a neo stacanovite populism
right with the farmers and all that thing
you know that yeah the mecha tanky thing is is it's not like we're trying a fucking
ur this in real life we're trying to aestheticize the farmers and the truckers and
give them a virtual
aestheticization
ideological
interface we want to be the ideological interface of these
you know
machine operator uprisings truckers and
tractor farmers and ship
things like that you know
that's what this whole thing is about really right
yeah and a lot of people think aesthetics are
a
meaningless
or sorry
aesthetics are devoid of like any
significance
but like there's there's literally two
ways of relating to the world
right
there's the technical way
a pure scientific technical way
there's an aesthetic wap
there is literally no other way to relate to the world
two weeks
one is technical one is aesthetic
i'm one of the people who say
actually they're combined
there's not even a separate
there's not actually a separation aesthetics is a fundamental aspect of our reality
and it does have meaning right it is a fundamental aspect of of our reality
because m
every actuality
as
unrealized virtual potentialities
look at quantum atac mechanics you don't believe me right
that's where aesthetics is
right people think all this is just the substantive real reality
no substantive real reality is what j calls
lacking and incomplete
right
it has a virtual
ambiguity
and the sight of that virtual ambiguity
is
also in the sphere of aesthetics
i
everyone in ggia talked about toilets and ideology
music basically gave a lecture about toilets and ideology set french toilets
um just go down right the german toilets
uh stick there because the germans like thinking about things so they like staring at shit and thinking about it
and then
english toilets
float on the water because they want to be compromised and
reasonable whatever
and
though that's aesthatics ok that's that's what you call aesthetics
even though they are they have functionalities
the the way you can explain the difference in those functionalities
since from a utilitarian perspective there's no
you are a scientific way to determine
which one is superior
the ambiguity that's let is aesthetical aesthetics matter they matter aesthetics is a site of
lass struggle
in the virtual sphere
aesthetics is a virtual form of class struggle definitely
it's not the actual class struggle but it is a virtual
b struggle
i
and what do you think that the chinese cultural revolution was about
was ust a cultural revolution
yeah but it was like the biggest fucking
thing and that happened in the twentieth century you know
so
and yes it did involve the actual class
proroble mobilizing
so i mean like
i think people really underestimate the significance of aesthetics and means and all that so they just the all nothing
see these fucking socialist cocks they're like
all that a tex dothing
okay you farking car
you literal couck
you're sitting there with your fucking google eyed glasses
looking like a hipster coup
please show me your fuck and results right you're talking about real reality versus us that is show me your fuck and reality
what have you actually bucking accomplished
nothing
you're just an ugly cop and that's all you bucking are
you're an ugly loser cop
who is laying claim to something
they have not earned
h you know
you'r claiming aesthetics don't matter but you don't actually have meat and potatoes to justify that
all you have is your ugly looser aesthetic
the difference between
the spa
um
the p a creeps and cucks
and me
is that i have a better aesthetic
they're not doing anything
meaningful
in real life
there they have they're not affecting any actual reality
they're just dwelling in their shitty aesthetic
and there's no difference
i'm not doing shit in real life i didn't say i was right
i have a better ideology i better theory and i have a better fucking aesthetic ih not i'm not fucking scared to say that i have a better aesthetic
you
are in the same field that i am you're just shitty a you're a shitty influencer
i'm a successful influencer
you're a city influenzer
with a shitty failed podcast and that's the difference between us
that is the sole difference right
success and failure one in zero
right
that's what it is
so yeah
so yeah
it could not ge any more simple than that
it really could not
but im
in any case
oh
a huge controversy
has been waged on twitter right
i hop
which is this question of like
who is the proletarian in today's age
our starbucks baristas just as much
productive are they productive workers are they unproductive workers
so its is that
remember the whole nurse's thing
that jackson debate which i talked about on switch and i uploaded it here on youtube
it's pretty much that same shit again
right
here's johnny cockle
johnny cuckled you've inspired nobody
a
you're a fucking pathetic dude you're a grown man with kids and you're spending your time
taking all theccounts
ude you're a fucking pathetic you are literally
dude i don't even want to be on twitter when i'm thirty right i'm twenty five
i'm twenty six right now right
and i don't even
want to be on twitter
at all right
and
when i'm thirty when i'm th if i'm on twitter doing the shit i'm doing now
and i'm thirty i'm going to that's going to be pathetic you know
you know honestly
i can't want to like
i'm going to make it my new year's resolution to like not be as much
a twitter guy
oing for i am getting too old for this shit is the truth right i'm really
i'm getting too old for the shit that i'm doing right
but to think that i would spind
y top
full time
right
doing some falking couck
pathetic shit
and by the way i don't have kids and i'm not married i'm literally a twenty six year old man and i feel guilty about f wen live in forred has inspired th you so much new american proleppreciaten
uh so ya
that's like not even something
i want to fuck and do
are yes
oh
thank you so much the american bro appreciate you ma
uh
you know anyway
yeah i just
yeah the a o c thing where she was pretending to be handcuffed
yeah
oh y are regarding law school
apparently i'm
i'm going to be scheduling a meeting soon to uh discuss my options
as far as law school is concerned
because i think that
the tipping point is can i if i can do it online if i can still do it online
i'm going back to law school
if i can't do it online
i'm still going back to get my masters
but that's like not going to take up any time at all that's going to be like
going to be super easy right i can just get my masters so i will be getting a degree out of it one way or another
i'm not gonna waste the fucking scholarship that i got
um
but if i decide not to go back
i have to believe in infraret i have to actually believe in this shit
i have to believe in the future of infrareds a media platform
and i have to
stop doubting it so much right because i
i have a lot of doubt guys i'm just kidding
but i have to really believe in this is like
i have to really really believe in it you know
as the thing i want to dedicate
my life to
but either way i'm getting a degree out of it either way
just you know just i know a masters isn't that
much but it's like
you know everybody who i've talked to who's graduated law school told me they're like
y know if you're not a fucking lawyer it's like the law degree does not really help all that much
kind of
n
you know
i don't know that's what i've been told
get that degree before world wear yeah that's a good point right
but if i can go if i can take it online
oh i'm going back to law school easily
yeah two years of online classes
would be a breeze pec because i finished the hardest year already
yeah i would just go back and i'd still scream and shit
still stcreaming but i was just
it that would be beautiful i'd really really love that if i could do that
if i could just take it online go back to law school
ll be beautiful
i
i also might
enquire about can i transfer what are my options for transferring
he went online in law school
right
what would you do with a law degree what would you want to be a lawyer
um
no i wouldn't
but it's one of those things where it's like
it'll always be backup you know in case
like for example right
let's say
the government revokes the first amendment
and not only do i get deep platform from everything
but you know my bank gets shut down and i'm
i'm not able to make a living spreading this message or these ideas
in that emergency scenario i would' be able to fall back
on that degree
juss to make a living you know
um
but i think before that would happen i would move to russia or something i i move to china or russia
or iran or lebanon right i'm a dual citizen there
and
so yeah
so yeah that's that's a
ah yea but i'm i'm not going to throw the fucking
whole thing away i'm not going to just drop out right
i'm either getting a masters
or
i am getting a
j d
pripe jurisdctral
i'll actoually be a fucking formal doctor
no i already an'm
know already am
but that is something i definitely have to think about
but i believe in infrarel
i believe in infrareli
right
i just don't
i don't want to call
i don't want to small cult i want to just
row this
aight you guys
will always be the vane guard
the three hundred spartans
plus the hundred fifty heywafs
right
so you three hundred farms you will always be
the vanguard
right
but
the more i grow
like if i grow to a point
where i could just fucking
get sponsorships
i doon't even need dognuts
you know
you wouldn't even have to worry about
doing that to support the streen
re patron right
so that would be a really good
scenario right
it would take a lot of
stress
off of this whole thing
to yeah
so ladies and gentlemen
this is a
i introduction
to the substact article
wuch is call
on the pat sock spli thank you so much forasting appreciated
oh seven
thank you so much
so
a lot of people want the simplification of this whole thing
that's what i'm going to give you
this is a caded by lenin
and lenin is basically saying
you want
freedom
and freedom of
criticism right
uh and if you
you want your freedom
to do what you want
you know
let's go of our hands and go fuck off and do your own thing right
let go was
stop
you know biting our ankles go to your own shit right
so you know the first thing i addressed this thing like oh this is like terminally online bullshit
unlik well stalin says it's not about the numbers right
the essence of the doctrine that matters
truth that's what mattersight
the truth of the theory the essence of the theory
and that much is what i sought
to
make as the aim of the the article
this is setting the stage right
and i'm going to piss i'm going to go p i'm going to take a piss right
while i pis you can read these too
to see the
the general aims of the article
right
as a preface in m
good morning revolution
i am constipated
o
so
yeah we we're talking about you know fuck
this is the like the only
this is the only part where i talk about the drama is here pretty much right and then
the rest of the article there's not really any drama i
so
basically what i do here is that i
i try to ground and contextualize
not the origins of
the professional managerial class
as much as
why do these people call themselves marxist leninists why is there in this entire mill you in the united states
of marxis leninis
when reality can be labeled as like pat sock thems right
the lunal oil watchers and
i mean
i know
those
ah fah
those are not the patriotic ones
like the pat sock them those are just the ones that just kind of like
our adhering to marxist linist orthodoxy socials patriotism
rather than like adopting the kind of revisions see lunal oi
the only reason she's like that is because she has 'an anarch's boyfriend
that's the plain truth
her boyfriend's an american anarchist
so she's deviating from like that basic orthodox ver the truth is like
it wasn't for that guy lunle oil would probably be like the same thing
she would have the same views as like you know
um
then
i really outa shape
you should have like the same views as like you know
a pad socked thems
is that just the standard orthodoxy of soviet
boxes and lenonism right
even after stalen
but i specifically ground and can textualize the phenomena of pat sock thems
in ckru jobs revisionism
so more or less this is how i'm going to explain to you khrusal's revisionism
ok
so in these first five year plan of the us sar
the first five year plan
which included collectivisation
they were still using these old
technical industrialists and specialists
to oversee and manage production
ok
the problem is that these people were not politically loyal to the communist state
you know there were leftovers from the old regime
and and there is
they were conspiring en gaging in sabotage on behalf of foreign agents
and shits
to reslve that problem
they decided they needed to rapidly
educate a specific segment of the soviet population
but that wasn't just going to be any segment in particular
in particular
it was going to be the communist right
members of the communist party and which members of the communist party
preferably those that came from
a worker or peasants backgrounds okay
so i select a group of the president
and workers who were communist party members
remember that's still relatively elite because communist
we're still a minority right
terms of like party members right
and they were educated with these technical skills to replace them
okay
so what happened after that
is that you know
they kind of emerged as a new managerial stratum they started to oversee and manage production to replace the old the old guys right
there was also a merger they didn't entirely replace them
n know the the old strata was kind of purged but they they also kind of fused right so there was this
kind of fusion right
but something youve gott to keep in mind
is that
so
their termed within sovietology the are called
the vid vizenci
the vid viz and si
k that's what their call
so the big visen cse newly educated pro it's called promoted workers right the bvid visen c
they were educated
in a kind of
formal way right
in the formal institutional way
typical of you know
bugeuas specialists in general right
so they didn't they weren't these were not the licencos is what i'm trying to say
these were not like the people who believed in like a
radically experimental view
of technology and science
they kind of it here to the strict kind of like you know positivistic
institutional paradigm
of you know the the middle class bourgeoisie
as in the case of the western countries right
so it's like if they were communists right
um
politically they are members of the communist party
but their education wasn't ideological is what i'm trying to say they were not trained in ideology they were trained out of fuck and run factories and shit right
ok so with that
came a lot of
prejudices and presuppositions
that were not only
oh
present in the form of their consciousness
but assume the structural reality
in their kind of
elevated positions as promoted workers so these are the managers these are the people who kind of
b
parti'es dictatorship the state they would trust them more right
but we need educated people to be leaders we need them to be administrators we need them to be party
you know
ah
cawdras and so on
so these are the people that they would draw from
to promote so the
so to give you some context right
almost every single soviet leader i think except gorbachev and maybe accept and drop off and whoever succeeded brezhnev
so breznev and krushov
were vidvisensi they were from this generation a first five year plan
ah elevated and promoted workers right who graduated and around
thirty three to thirty seven i think something like that right
a
and then beyond the leaders of the s sr almost everyone in the soviet elite
that so called namenclatura right
came from this generation of itvis and almost all of them they came from this generation
of people who were promoted during the first
five year plan
is that wild
the whole soviet leadership
until the end of the us s ar
so youun was ruled by a select group of people who just so happened to be educated
within the time period of the first five year plan right
pretty crazy isn't it
anyway
m
so some features that you know they had in terms of their attitudes is that they had a very pragmatic orientation a very technical pragmatic orientation
so they separated the ideology the communism
from the the science right just as any good scientific person supposed to do
they separated the marks of the leninism in the dialectics and all that shit
from the science the science was just purely pragmatic following this kind of
american pragmatism
and what that led to was a kind of cynicism
regarding the ideology right these this was a very cynical generation
brus job was a cynic bres nev was a cynic they were cynics right because
they ultimately believed
in bourgeois metaphysics is the truth
for them ideology it's just like some political bullshit that's not real
communism isn't real marxism en is it's not real right somdological bullshit
the real thing is this
pragmatic
technical science right
um
in any case you know this was the strata
that acquired
a lot of privileges
out of practical necessity
and you know would would
would become the future soviet elite
ok
the first generation
but there were also other generations ok
and then here in this paragraph i make a point of saying
wasn't everyone
right
there are a lot of them were
not
cynics who like felt they were part of an exclusive strata
you know a lot of them
did want to you know
work toward elevating everybody else up
probably most of them did in this stalm period maybe right
so they didn't actually existed at a as a class at this time right
like or they didn't act on behalf of themselves as like a private
particular class of society
so i just make a point of saying that
right
but
you know similarly
after nine especially after nine oundred twenty nine but with the rise imperialism
something similar is going on
uh in the western countries okay
so in the western countries which are becoming more socialized and
ruled by social democrats
you do have this new class of like
managers and technical experts
and professionals right
who combine
their education
with this like ideological commitment to democracy and liberalism
and wherever this is pretty much like the new deal
urban democrats
the northern urban democrats ofre the new deal that's pretty much who they are pretty much the same thing sociologically right
something similar happens in the
labor union and
you know social democratic
parties throughout europe
this is a worldwide phenomenon right
but the difference with the u s asar you guys have to bear with me difference with the u s aar
is that in the s a sr this was meant to be temporary
ok
at least according to stalin
so as industrialization was proceeding
majority people keep in mind are still peasants ok
and so you have these very heavily american centric western educated
they weren't educated in the west but according to the standards of western education
technical education
western educated kind of like
you know i
strata
and then you have these new peasants
that
are increasingly joining the ranks of the industrial
a working
called the working class called the industrial workers right
these were peasants that had
moved to the cities and moved to work in factories rather than fields straight
from the fields right so this is coming from the big peasant mass ok
and this is around nine hundred thirty five after the vidvizenci
ire starting to
take form
in terms of leadership
ya
so
okay
so what's going on here right is that
a new phenomenon
emerges which
probably the first form of a kind of like
social antagonism almost the tension
and that is between these new industrial workers that that
nor former peasants
and these vidvicency experts right
and that was the stakano of movement
somebody teach you something about the stukanof movement
o
this is a poster from the stickano movement
and if you look at this poster
let's soe me
you'll see you know these are
pretty much
they look like pm cs right the new class
glasses and you know they're kind of nerds these are nerdy kind of whatever people
and while this is not necessarily the vidvi sensi
the vides sense he got caught up
as the target
of this stakanovite populism against managers
and against these you know
administrators and technical specialists ok
to the stakanoviite movement it is well known in the west as being a movement
which was based on you know
a huge enthusiasm for for
goodight
produce more and more and more but the reason for that right
was because there was a suspicion among stalin
thevid visensi because of their
formal kind of
or western education
we're severely underestimating
the potential of outputs right
this the con of ights
it wasn't just a populism in terms of relations of power and relationships of
privilege right
it was a populism
about science itself they're basically saying
buck you specialists buck you technical people we stuk of bt we're going to produce more than any of your science will be able to
that's pretty much what it is there but they're basically saying fuck you science
a dinosaurs weren't real
and you know i
they're saying the
what is another mean we have
adams aren't real and oh yeah i'm going to save the best one for last right
that's pretty much the stockanov movement i'm being hyperbolic and i'm exaggerating
for those that may have autism
but
you know that's pretty much how you can characterize this thekono movie
so
ah
there was also the great purgas ok
now you're going to notice something about kruhov secret speech and you can correct me if i'm wrong
but as far as i recalled khrusov did not actually denounce
stalins
persecution of the left opposition or
the right block of
bucharin and zenobiev and the rest right
and the reason is because the right is
predated the vidvizenci right
so krz shav's denunciation of stalin
and the so called cult a personality
it's because stalin was kind of like the donald trump
of the stakanov movement if the stakanovs were mago
then stalin was like their trump
ok
stalin was seen as this vulgar populist
who is
you know rousing up
the popular masses against the technical
blue check mark scientific elites
right i'm translating this into terms that
should be kind of more familiar to you ok
so khrushav and his friends
in the vidvizensi class the their but heard about this right
they don't like this thekan of movement
m
and also the great purges happen
right
afterwards
and while the purges did not
target the vids enci
at all
as a class right
a lot of them did get caught up
and the possibility was there that holy fuck are we going to be next
you know
are we going to be replaced in the same way
that we replace these other guys you know because stalins a democrat
democratizer who he understands
the law of gatekeepers stalin is constantly opening the gates of privilege
the thing is
stalin did not really trust
the peasants
and because of that
he
would not be able to take phenomena like this thekano movement
to its sow
conclusion
game
he kind of would have to put it on the back burner
and and place his trust
in the powers of urbanization
and the reason is because you know
eas the conovites in his populist sentiment
it was overwhelmingly coming
from the peasants okay
and stolen
was a traditional marxist
orthodox marxist even right
he didn't really trust the peasantss was as mal put it right he didn't think the peasants
could be trusted
to like in here the essence of the revolution
a the soviet
cont you know they didn't he didn't think they had the seeds of the communist future
he thought
that these peasants had to be led by benevolent
you know
a cultured
leaders not as an elite stratum of course but just
it's people who will guide them along basically something like that right
so stalin's populism kind of wanes after the great purges
but despite that right within the sphere of the technical sciences
you have the licenco affair
and lysento was not vi vicensy
lysenco was a
not a not
western scientist
he was a barefooted scientist he was a peasant
and
mm
managed to establish continuity
with a traditional russian form of science
ernalization
coming from mitchurin itchurian whatever i forgot to say' his name
russian science ok
and somewhere along the line lies sanko
is able to explain his theories with dialectical materialism with soviet dialectal materialism
so lesenko was a kind of scientist
who is not a cynic
it wasn't a cynic he believed in
a marxism leninism he believed in dialectical materialism
and he used it as a way to explain his his his radically new findings
which were findings
that could not
be understood
according to the paradigm of western sciences ok this is the russian science it's
even predating the revolution it's a russian tradition g
and this represents
a big kind of slap in the face
the vivicensi as well right
there's a new generation of
knowledge
that is emerging
is a new paradigm of knowledge that is being given
serious consideration
that does not
in form
the standards
of the techno scientific education
the vida sense he had received
during the period of the first five year plan
so in a way lyiceno is also a proxy
for this stalinist populism
that comes at the expense of the bit with sensic right
just by not being purged
there was
some
nervousness this class felt towards stocstean represented this terror
for them right
blooming over them
never realized of course but
still looming over the
so chris jobs
secret speech
is basically a way of signalling
you know hey stalin's dead we don't have to be scared anymore we have to worry
ah we're fine
you know we are just going to rule we thevidvi sense we these elites that were you know trained during the first period of the five year plan
our time to shine
right
we don't have to worry about these this mass of russian
no
peasants and workers
who are attempting to kind of find representation in the state and political power and
culure in science w have to worry about that
now we can have the reins of power
don't have to worry about it
know this stalinist go s the specter
just wanted to help thank you so much ater days off
love you work
flexed biceps
flexed bicep th you so much about b seps so crushow mo reve secret speech thank you so much all that is swpcate you so much
so krusof's secret speech more or less kind of
um it uh
cements the rule
of what western
critics would call the new class these are kind of
heck no
scientific
managerial elites ok
and they would basically participate in the managed decline of the soviet union
up until it's dissolution
and why because they were cynics they didn't believe in marxism leninism
didn't believe in communism
so what did they believe
right
the essence of their ideology could actually be summed up
it's a form of social democracy
they didn't believe in the you know radical potentials of soviet democracy
they also didn't believe it they didn't believe in the unique form of soviet democracy
they didn't believe in marxism linism or the proletarian dictatorship
but they did believe
that you know
we can create
this institutional
civil society
which is going to use science
and tolerance and you know um
a liberal attitude toward culture
you know we're going to
this is going to be for the benefit of all humanity right
a lot of people don't know this but
globalism doesn't just come from america
apart maybe even half of globalism
came from krushawite revisionism this idea
we're one we are the word
we are the chair that was definitely the vibe
after krujov's secret speech
it's idea that you know
one
harmonious
not harmonious sorry
that's more confucianism one kind of like
you know
whole someome chungs civil society thank you so much in the one nine hundred thirty
midden's effect on the deborrnth school was to purge it of menchvising idealism but ironically it opened the door for mechanistic materialism and dualism
it set the stage
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i'm not that familiar with that i have to look into it thank you so much foring
we appreciate you
okay so
you know
the soviet union following khushov's revision
it's basically a managed decline the soviet unions dissolution is all but inevitable at this point
unless you know there's someone who's going to come and overthrow this
it vicenci
like mau would later do in china right
because a similar class emerged in china
of soviet trained specialists right
we were trained according to that
you know techno
specialistic pro
program right
and
that's what the cultural revolution and you know the great leap forward is about right it's basically bypassing
this class and let's call it a class keep that in mind it's a new class right not just in the soviet union but in the world
and the ideology is international social democracy
or bourgeois socialism or fabian socism what you want to call it right it's
type of socialism according to which
the fundamentals of you know
the society and the economy we're going to be organized in a non ideological
aka anglo s anglo box way right
but we're just going to direct the forces of production
in a more compassionate
responsible
you know
humane way
so that will have
prosperity for all right
not prosperity necessarily and wealth
but prosperity in terms of you know
m maintaining the open society something like that right
so this is kep in mind this is the tendency this is just the tendency in the soviet union
and it's expressed throughout the whole duration of the soviet union's existence after khruhav
there's also countervailing tendencies there's conservatives there's hardliners you know
in a security state within the kgb there's different fractions
and these people h
you know
do not draw from the vivicensi strata so there ase others
i haven't
quite studied the exact
you know
dynamics at play there but
though let's just say the soviet union is not completely gone
that's why you still have the hardliners and the the
you know the based elements that are kind of left
that are not on board with this
rapproachement with the st
that cruise show was trying to initiate
so anyway
this is international social democracy and the merger theory the merger theory is that the best aspects of the soviet system
the best aspects of the american system
capitalist system will be combined and we're going to have a one world order of peace and prosperity for all
everyone is going to be smiling in a un rainbow
w it right
so this is kind of
the legacy of soviet revisionism
a right so social democracy you know
same thing is happening in america and in europe
and the same type of class is also emerging
so why am i calling it a class right
i'm going to call it a class because it is a universal class it's a class
which doesn't see itself as a class but it sees itself as the universal form of society
only
owing to the artificial nature of how it has been contrived
because it's purely based on institutions
of social planners and social engineers right
and you know philanthropists who have these causes like it's a simulation of society
on top of the actual society
you know primarily urban and these people think
that they represent all of society right
what an example of this
i'm just
you know go to any city and you're going to find that
person who just like
i can't believe why anyone would vote for trump we're going to have these n p c s who like
don't understand why there's any resistance toward the status quo whatsoever
because they genuinely think they represent all universal society right
but they don't and that makes them actually not universal society
it makes them a class right so what kind of class is this
it's a class of
rerontier
parasites
and most of society by the way doesn't fall into one or the other but somewhere in between somewhere in between this new class
and the real kind of humanity thank you so much dark sate you so much man
right
so most of society falls somewhere in between not one or the other things so much dark pce so much mon
all somewhere in between
ok
and because they fall somewhere in between
m
as a tendency this class can only really find
like let's call it
consistency among
professionals among people
you are not engaged
you know in the
salaried professionals more or less write this kind of
the people who are let's put it the people who are in the city in hunger games right the c e o s the c f os the people who are in you know zes goy say you're either in or you're out
right
apartheid inclusion or exclusive the
the people who are in who have made it in right
i'm just talking about the super rich
i'm talking about the doctors that are the lawyers
the business
people the stockbrokers the bank tellers or whatever
the bankers
c e os c f os administrators coders all these people that are part of this
institutionalized
simulation of society
that is the new class ok
and
to holls what about the capitalist class
ll the capital sas proper
basically made it impossible for anyone to ascend to its ranks the capital class
proper is still
a very exclusive elite stratum which
as you see here right
they're kind of this conspiratorial select elite right the rockefeller's the morgans
these kinds of people
who aren't really a class anymore as much as they're just like this group
ruling over society
you get to identify them as a class
means that they're able to be reproduced according to the division of labor but they're not
nobody can enter into their ranks even the koch brothers can't enter into their ranks right
even the koch brothers are like petty bougeois compared to a fuckon
rockefeller ok
and the amount of wealth that is there
so
um you know
you pretty much have what cojev alexander cojev
alls the end of history where it seems like everyone's equal now there's there's no more classes
nobody owns anything
there'sust different degrees of how big your salary is
but there's different degrees of your affluence right there's different degrees of
your assets maybe
but nobody owns anything on a purely private basis anymore
everything's regulated everything's restricted in a social way
keep in mind i'm not saying this is actually the case i'm saying
this is the idea
ok
but in reality we know this is not the case because
this
socialism
what else to call it right
is artificial it's not referring to the real social relations of production
so
the majority
are excluded from this pure of socialist society if you want to call it that
and actually have to they're subjected to the you know it's like m l k st
rugged individualism for the poor
and socialism for the rich except m l k wasn't just talking about government tax subsidies and
bailout and shit he was also talking u probably about you know these professionals
and his new civil society where every one's equal and whatever
i just knew heaven on earth
but for the poor they're still in the dog eat dog world of capitalism it seems like where they they've got a grind every day to make a
get by and shit and it's ruthless competition
between different people
i mean so that's what you're dealing with right
all right so that's the new class more or less right the new class can be understood
in terms of a
not the private individual ownership
of
means of production
but a relationship
to a private form of sociality
game
or private socialities
there
participate
patient within which
entitles them to a definite stream of revenue
these revenues are parasitic
and do not produce any value they're just
the extract value produced from the productive segment of segments of society
and the world at large
and the
distributed among themselves to plan their own
socialist economy
more or less
so that's the idea here
i
i really get into it and i talk about you know
are the patriotic social democrats
um
i talk about the maga movement and how the maga movement is trying to
resist this
institutional sociality and trying to discover
another america make america great again another america another sociality
that's not an institution it's that's a romantic
even reactionary movement
not reactionary doesn't mean bad it just means like
to go out
vain failed way of chya confront this
this privatized and institutionalized or bourgeois kind of socialism right
and you know when it comes to the culture war
the culture war is just a proxy for whether you're in it or you're not in it right
so the culture was a pro basically a proxy for like oka
it seems like there's no mores class war in politics anymore there is by the way it's an illusion that much is true
so the class struggle is mainly manifesting itself in culture and only in culture right not in politics anymore
because it's our way of kinn ofv
signalling
beyond political association
different kind of association
wphch is discursive in through language
it's signalling whether you think
you know
you're part of this institutional mediation of reality or not
you are
you have a b l m sticker and you believe in whatever
and say on you to
and if you don't you're following youq an ho or some shit right
so that's what we're dealing with there
dam
the problem with the pat the pat sock thems
is regardless of the critique of society
they're just trying to create an alternative institutionalization
that's what bernie tried to do that's what corbn tried to do
they're pretty much saying another world is possible we can create a different
social democratic fabian socialist matrix simulation of real society
that's pretty much what they're trying to do right
and it's obviously a form of
stupidity and hypocrisy
is they're basically trying to preserve
the existing world
finus the defects they're just saying oh the problem is capitalism
promis is too much
profit seeking
but wait a second that capitalism is the only thing that sustains
the possibility
of this institutionalized socility you yourself have committed to politically
so it's just hypocrisy right
they want
this
social democracy without its antagonisms
so they blame the antagonisms just on you know capitalism or
you know
and b
a theoretical capitalist class which they don't name by the way
and they unite the new class on the basis of this very vague designation of the working class
which includes the whole universal classes
pretty much the whole universal class doesn't own anything
ok
even ceos don't really fuck and own anything
necessarily ce o s are employed right
so it's just like their way of trying to
convince the new class to to
you know i don't know
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listen to the you know listen to people like this
and then they condescendingly tell the actual working class
hey do forget about that culture war guys
we've resolved all of that come join our social democratic universal
whatever right so that's
pretty uch are you dealing with
all right so this is where we get into the patriotic social democrats and
i talk about how they're pretty much
the same as the leadership of the cusa and the communist part of canada we're like
their patriotism is basically just a way of making an excuse
for the inadequacy of their universal pretensions right
it's a basically a form of hypocrisy
and i predict
that in the coming war with china
patriotic social democrats are going to rally behind
you lose aggression
they're never going to admit this right now but they will
do this in the future
because
a war with china will lead to the destruction
of international social democracy it's going to lead to the very destruction
of the furthest horizon within which
they can even conceive of socioloity
their whole marxist class analysis is only within the new class
they don't analyze any society any reality any material civil society
as morx would put it
outside
of this fake socialized civil society they don't even write they don't believe there's a world outside of fucking
you know new york and l a or whatever right
everything is within that bubble
for that
so when the war with china comes it's gonna be very clear
where their allegiances why it's going to be with this
new class of social democratic parasites
o finally
there is this controversy about the division of the working class
and this is where the actual the
substance of the dispute
at least as it was on twitter
i'm going to talk about right i'm going to try to symbovize in the best way i can i'm not going to
make a substitute for what i wrote because i just
can't write i'm going to very very crudely and volgarly simplified me sidlet me get my fucking dream
i
so one of the controversies
so there's this thing where they are kind of hiding behind service workers
to defend the professional managerials right
at which i reject
but despite that we still
we still insist on distinctions right
we say
the pmc thing is useful right because it's a proxy for the new class
it is the new class more or less right
it's not even
necessarily managerial or professional
it's just part of this valorization of some
derivative private sociality
and we insist they are inherently class enemies we insist on them
ok
now we also insist that the distinctions within the working class between productive and unproductive
are also
necessary to acknowledge
why
because unproductive laborers
are going to be divided by a spectrum
the upper crust
are not only going to be having the same interests but they're going to be a part of the new class
whereas the majority
are going to be kind of caught between
i think most
probably are going to be at the te the end right
the people who are crushed under the boot of the service industry
whose interests are the destruction of the service industry itself emancipation from the service industry right
but productive labor
not i'm not just talking about productive laborers a lot of whom yeah we know our privileged whatever
but the standpoint of productive labor the perspective of productive labor
is
represents the general interests of general labor and i'll keep that
word in mind general labor
starbucks will never represent the interests of general labor why
because starbucks is a stupid fucking bullshit job that should not exist
these are dumb bullshit jobs that are dehumanizing and degrading
and they should not falcking exist
if there's a starbucks barista that likes their job they're a fucking parasite
most of these people are doing it to survive
that's what makes them working class
if they actually do it because they like
such a dehumanizing stupid job
then they are fucking parasites in class enemies period
ok
nobody should want to be
preserving these bullshit
bucking absolutely
dehumanizing jobs ok
these are these are forms of these are ways of torturing the sons and daughters of the working class
cajeling them into a modern form of fucking slavery
and indignity
we should have a modern abolitionist movement to fucking abolish the service sector that's what i believe
and we can afford it we have enough wealth to do that
we cant work less hours doing real jobs
and the rest we can just have free time
you know we can cook our own food or whatever right
make our own coffee
hell i'll be on board i'll have to make my own food and my own coffee
i don't drink coffee
i have to make my own protein
now what i'll do it
i'll get my protein straight from the warehouse
won't even get it from the store
i have to just blend my own protein
ok and i'll have to make my own food
and that's a sacrifice
i'm willing to allow my future wife to make
i'm just kidding please don't don't caip me i'm kidding
okidd
i'm sorry
but you guys missed the eight days where i was like
i wouldn't have to apologize for yeah this is not a joke on ironically
you know i can't do that because people literally take it seriously
and they stit trying to debate me about it
i don't care if you get mad and like want to cancel me over it
will you start wanting to debate me about jokes
i've literally become depressed
so it's like that's why i have to say i'm joking
anyway
anyway
ok
m
yeah
by the way
we're all goods thank you so much gott off
we're all fougking guilty
all of us
every time we go to mcdonald's
we're abusing
re we're part we're all participating in it
we're all we all are o it's a dog eat dog world whatever
but
litically
let's try to destroy
abolish the service industry right
politically we can' be hypocrites
private
i
anyway
so the pat soock dems and others are trying to say the proletariat is just those
live off the sel youor labor because
this is a definition marxs and angles often gave
they ignore the fact that the reason marx and egls gave this definition of labor
was because of a specific division of labor particular to the traditional form of capitalism
that they were
you know
taking is the object of their consideration
okay
so they try to say that classes are defined by ownership
and i debunk this
pretty much beyond any threshold of a doubts
anyone who tells you classes are defined by ownership just go to this article
and read the followingk thank you so much chris more loy in diignity is precisely in the fact that the labor cannot independently recreate itself within service
it is a permanent infantlization
that's exactly it
it's actually a smart way of putting it
that is a smart way of putting it
that is exactly what it is
but yeah
ok so for mark's
in angles they are pretty
pretty crystal fuck and clear
that the division of labor
ok first of all labor is social
it's not individual it's socialirs
think of it like this right
first to begin with a society
now how does that society reproduce itself
it does so through its labor it's a universal social
form of labor
so labor is not individual it's
social
o i keep that in mind
ok when you you proceed just proceed from that axiom you don't agree with it we can debate about it later just this is what marx and angles think ok
okay
so because of a division within that general labor
within that general labor
so it's not like you have one group doing something another group doing it and then you say it's a division of labor no
first there's a division within the soul of a community
which cannot be bridged
and then only then are
different stratum emerging different segments
o
o
the primary
division
is between mental and physical
ok
that's the first primary division of labor bere divided because of dialectics right
it's a metaphysical contradiction between
i the
thut's a material reality
so
marx makes clear
n
out of these arise social relations to production
this division of labor ca
or corresponding to his division labor are definite social relation to production
ok
and then as a superstructure on top of these social relations
you have a legal and political superstructure
okay
that arises on top
as a superstructure
are you reading right
denmark says
the existing
relations of production finder legal expression
in property relations ok
so what does that mean it means ownership is superstructural
it is not a primary relationship to production
it is a legal superstructural
m
form of the relation of production
so ownership
is not what is primary in defining the essence of class
the division of labor is
and the differing relations of production are
again these relations of productions are
again divisions of labor
ok
so that much becomes very clear
the reason sols themgrats by the way don't understand the difference is because
they confused the superstructure for the base in the same way
that they is they assume that their institutional sociality
is the same with the material kind so that
they believe the form in the superstructure and the institution are primary
the material reality secondary it's basically their idealistic
social democratic
mention it
fucking
stupidity
i
alright
um
now
if
the relations of production have changed
ok which they have
if the nature of the generalization of labor chang has changed
then it follows the nature of private property and also the form of ownership
they have also changed and they have
private property in the classical sense does not exist anymore
in the classical know lase faire british
you know sense the nineteenth century doesn't exist
people who own things today don't actually own them as their property
it's more like they have a title to them
in legal terms
but that title is still subjected
to a regulatory state
you a kind of
social
regulation
it's not actually theirs
in a truly private way
so we should not
blind our eyes to the real distinctions in relation to production
according to this rigid definition of ownership
it's just common sense right
now how can we prove this that
iw proper
the working class is only defined by those who sell their labeor
and that may be true but how do you define labor how do you define the sale of labor right
first you have to understand a marks meant by labour
marx understands by labor
you know a specific way in which man transforms nature according to man's
essence and man's reality
right this is what this whole paragraph means
so
the thing is though is that the threshold defining the extent of man's relation to nature
terms of his technical knowledge in terms of his scientific knowledge his techniques of production the instruments of production
that is social that is not an individual's going in the forest figuring shit out
it's a social relationship
the nature
now get kick that this is where it's going to get interesting k
marx makes a distinction between different types of labor some of them are skilled
some of them are unskilled
and some of them represent such infinitesimally small magnitudes of actual simple labor
that they do not produce any value they're just a cost of production
so marks de fines
this is where things get interesting
simple labor the simple quantum of labor
as the relative condition
heir
the labor time required to produce the means of subsistence
necessary for the reproduction
of labor power
that is what value is laboor value
the thing is
the means of subsistence are not naturally determined but historically determined and are therefore relative
okn
and moreover they are the means of subsistence
that are necessary for the reproduction of labor power
again labor powers general and its abstract
and it's defined by the ability
to transform nature in some kind of way
to the threshold defining
what constitutes this simple labor which is either compounded into skilled labor
or conversely
divided into infinitesimly small quantums
in the case of service work right
which is not representing man's
the threshold of mankind's relationship to nature
in a general way right as a general form of labor
that means
the sale of labor
is referring to this type of labor
right
labor which transforms nature
at the threshold
of mankind's relationship to nature
i talk about k wave so contra si of waves are hypothetical
boom and bus cycle
that is according to these kinds of like paradixs right the steam engine railway electrical
petrochemical information technology
these are different paradigms
in relation
to nature right that the i mean it's not just that the steam engine
means all we just
have steam engines now
the steam engine is going to change
how we how
relate to nature
and the way it changed our
way we relate to nature is through electrical engineering and chemistry right
and the way in which electrical engineering and chemistry
as consequences for the production of commodities is in petrochemicals and automobiles right
and finally
the way in which
this changes how we relate to nature
or at least society
be more accurate
in information technology it's a new form of socialization
this is why
we say
this is the socialist mode of production
is information
so far as it can be valorized right is just
it's a form of
private socialism basically it's sociloity that's what information is about
about the sociists
gang
so this is an interesting thing going on what it proves is that
there are different thresholds defining what constitutes
simple labor
the and the relative conditions of subsistence and these
ditions of subsistence are defined by a kind of holistic
political
a
and cultural kind of era right
like in these various eras there is a general standard of how an average person
is relating to the mode of production
average not in terms of
their proportion of the population
but just average in terms of
um
how they are relating to production if the majority are not necessarily relating to production
which was the case in marx's time as
most were
only in agricultural production
they weren't relating to the kind of steam engine or the railways or anything like that
they were just relating to the
agriculture the majority of them rit
the average worker the average form of labor however much it's the you know going to be a minority at that time
is still defined in a you know
average weight
average means of subsistence with that labor according to the conditions of the industrial revolution
ok
so
more or less these dumb folks who are trying to miss quol marx and angls talking about the sale of labor
i have radically misunderstood the fact
that let the
not all labors the same
labor is also not something individual it's social
and its significance within political economy
only rears itself at the aggregate level not at the individual level
which means of an enterprise is profitable here
not necessarily because there's surplus value being produced
that could be that could just be revenues soucked
from actual productive industries that are producing surples value
the difference between
a form of measurement of value
and value proper
is going to manifest itself at the aggregate level in the form of the falling rate of profit the problem is that at the aggregate
s a general
rate of profits
which seems makes it kind of hard to determine
which of these industries are producing surplus value
and which ones are sucking it out
from other one
right but they all average up
at the argreate level
and that is where
the reality of surplus value
bere's a tach
that is why there's a falling rate of profit
because despite that all these things appear equal right they're not
there's a substance of labor underlying them
whose significance rears itself in the form of a contradiction
that contradiction being the following rate of profit
okay
so there's a general labor
the general labor that exists in america today
formally at least we're going to get to whether this is the case actually
is the one that occurred in the post war period
the general labor
includes a degree of you know a high school diploma or a degree of technical education
defining the heavy industry worker
because this is what the american regulatory state
mm
general productive means of production mean instruments of production
and productive powers of society
in relation to nature
defined as the conditions of a subsistence
of labor taken in its general form
i address the kind of
reproach regarding physiocratism
the code marks
they confuse what productive labor this is a different thing the're like alls
actually mark says that any any any labor employed by capital is productive
ll no marx is saying that's only from the
arrow minded bourgeois perspective
which confuses
you know
production from the standpoint of capital with actual
reduction of values right
there's this continuity between the two
which again manifests itself in the form of the following rate of profit
values and prices enter into contradiction with each other
um
ll right i'm going to skiplet
i talk about like the meccas the significance of mecca's here
more or less
yikes
meccas are not petty bougois like insts
these are basically tools or instruments or production
whether it's a truck
whether it's a tool whether it's like a
tractor
draw oftimes least right by these workers which they own in some kind of sense
i point out this is not a petite bousgeois form of ownership it's a form of ownership
corresponds to society which establishes thank you so much love tony
which establishes a definite channel
of production
as the exclusive
sphere of exchange value so exchange value is no longer
actually abstract or general
confined to definite channels of exchange
production assumes a determinate form in so far as production assumes a determinanate form
labor
by necessity is augmented
with forms of
property
i
that merely reflects
this kind of
bare minimum
that is guaranteed
to be necessary for production
because of this conditions of production set forth
by the on that presedent a degree of socialization
regulation
et cea
that's a mouthful isn't
um
but what the general demands the emancipation of labor
and i hear he talk about how you know
there is a way in which the service sector is being valorized
just in the form of the collection of their data so that they're being subject to this
sick twisted sadistic kind of squid game
but they're working these useless bullshit jobs
not because these jobs produce value
but it seems increasingly
at least indirectly that these jobs are defining
matrices of
subsistence
which are necessary
we're algorithms
to collect in the form of data
order to actually tell
or
plan production in a decentralized way
so the service sector is producing
some surplus data
right but they're not actually engaging in labor
at the site of production
they're engaging in a weird type of a labor at the site of consumption
ok
and i talk about how the general demands of labor
have to be from the perspective of productive
labor that increases material wealth
real jobs right
even if that's going to come at the expense of a lot of the kind of more unionized privileged heavy industry workers that's fine
but from the perspective of the type of work that they carry out
is the only perspective that will
epitomize the demands of general labor so starbucks unionization is not going to do this
your starbucks unionization
is a kind of
petty bouszeois
raft unionism just like
roommeister unization is
because it is a stablishing this exclusive and inherently parasitical
form of employment and industry
as an ends in itself well in so far as
you know starbucks workers
are going to be attached to their workplace through a union
basically petty booz w at that point
m
they're benefiting from the specific way the starbucks as an industry
moreover as a monopoly industry
that's what i think people overlook
does not actually produce any value but is derivative from the actual production of
surplus value the basically like
becoming you know shareholders and proprietors
just not a very intuitive level right in starbucks
not saying we should prevent starbucks unization saying it's not something communy should focus on this does not represent the general demands of labor
i wish the starbucks people the best of luck
'm wishing the best i'm starting sound like a team right now because i'm very tired
i wish the starucks people the best of luck
it just
what they're doing has nothing to do with the communism
whe the general demands of labor taken generally
so here's where i defend the communist party twenty thirt six
a
the necessity of they're trying to say that we're waiting for fourteen years this is not true
we're just saying that the first thing that socials have to do
is organized amongst themselves
not an arbitrary way and not in the form of association that is based on commonly shared ideas because that's a formula for sectarianism
a the minute you disagree with someone who's going to run off and split and form your own party
to the communist party usa is a kind of proxy for the
ability to have a discipline relation
you social association
is not based on institutional ideas or ideologies or theories
but based on a intuitive respect and acknowledgment of the historical nature of the communist party as the premier
historical party of the working class
not because its leadership does this and represents this but because it is the purport
and basis of the foundation of the party itself
just read it right just read this part
just read it
just read it
now this is the epilogue i dismissed the criticism that
as is it
a streamer and he can't have a working class
he can't talk about woring glass moments because of his own background
this is mentally retarded
lenon makes it absolutely clear
there can be no talk of an independent ideology formulated by the working masses
the choice is either bousgeois intellectuals or socialist ones and he elaborates
yeah
even if you come from a working class background and you'r
participating in a social theory
you're not doing so as a worker but only as a socialist theoretician
solen made it clear that even if i was a fugging factory worker it wouldn't make a difference
because there's a difference between
reflectsive determination of classes and individuals engaged in the determine reflection of the class struggle through ideas
otherwise most individuals in history who are solcials steron aticians
would not be considered
working class consciousness
marks angeles in lenin
to be considered bouz was just because by virtue of their background
and i talk about how
people who say otherwise are engaged in
reerverse form of auto eroticism
most of these people are failed careeris who now work city jobs because their podcast sucks
and they can't live off it
they uptaught their own suffering as true workers to make up their inability to actually engage in the ideological stronghom
and then they talk about how we don't reach the workers but as a matter of fact no one's going to reach the workers in a direct way
hisse individuals don't reach workers parties andor organizations do
the first thing we have to fucking do is stage one
stage one is just uniting ideological tendencies
and committed part know
aspiring believers
into joining a differente organization
only after they can get through that issue of
socializing amongst themselves in organizing
only then can they reach the workers as a party as united party
the most lefting retards never get past stage one they're sectarians
who form groups and sex on the basis of ideas alone
never occurse to them that they w'll never rose the workers
because the difference in the working class and the reflex of apparatus was liss interest theyre basically guilty of a form of anarchism according to which
there's no difference betwen these two things
and then i talk about the hypocrisy of saying that you know we're overly online in all this dumbshit
even though we're committing ourselves to the discipline
of doing things offline that are not the same as what we do online
which require a discipline to recognize that there's a difference in the offline world and the online world
as a matter of fact
you who are trying to do iirl parties
purely the base of their online ideas are they're the ones who are termin the online
anny y on a s reading yourself that's a summary of my fucking thing
okay
now that we've got that out of the way
i was a summary
we' got that out of the way
now we have to cover the true
news
i have to shit
i have to
legitimately take a shit
so i'll be back in like i'm not even kidding i have to shit so
i will be back soon
i do have to shit
i don't know how long it's going to take
oh
wonder if
ok so he under i will cetera
i will just
a this onscreen for you to look at while i go shit
i don't know how long it's going to take
i really don't
um
hopefully not very long
and i'll be back and we're going to cover some urgent jason unruj news
you're back
i can't believe three hundred and fifty people
waded through all of that
put
all right there's okay so first this is not whathe i wanted to go
just click b
i'll cover this one that one tomorrow
what
i
the beer is sat aboy
is that
bas
thank you so much but freight train strike may happen in this month
no shop really
i did not know that
what i'm super sad about
is
jason
fraive
apparently they're not friends anymore
hey
and
jason misses his friend
he's got nostalgia
this is a video stream which i was featured in on the day of october twenty fourth twoenty twenty
a we're bonding
and
at last we're here joined with jason for the sixteenth installment of chaos under heead
yes
that the system is
if we consider the ecological
covid
the economic
crisis
all the
flayreed oup
to a large extent at the same time that's going to be
oh yeah there's a couple other factors that are coming it's not just going to be those three things with covered the tragic and scary part about cover it is it's going to take them years to functioning bace because the the where the rate at which the virus
to
to
t
to
i mean this is is sad man
why an't they frienzs anymore man
aren't they friends ansued a sylver what happened
nw look at this one
is all recent a is the past few days
this is a video stream which i was featured in on the date december sixth twenty twenty
it
a funger
imperialist wars on both occasions they were so destrughti
wh he misses his friend where did he explain it
he explains it so
well what could have been
was called what could have been
i think a better dichotomy because it just goes back to
look at this description man
twenty twenty was an interesting year
b haven i
used to be friends
the days of the french reb
to
two
th
mm
alright so i i um
so i have a proposal
yeah i re let it be know
ok
i want a summon
a grand reconciliation
a stream
with me
jason on rule
trave
and the yankee tankee
butuk that be liovel guy's not coming
uh
but all of us
let's cate
the tankee the council of tankee
lords
and we'll all have a seat at the council
and
that's my proposal
and finball yeah finball can come to
we must revive the tankie
council
the council of thankees
and each of us must take our place
as tanke lords
so we need yankee tankee jason rew
and fellow traveler but unfortunately
the yankee tanke he appears to have problems with both me
o is this guy
thank
he
he has problems with me and jason
so this is
this is his thing what's wrong with jason
we can build a better
jason andreu is on the internet running
mi it
oen his mouth
apparently
ah
so
jason has decided to
call me a fascist
just like
the difference is that jason is a shia i mom
and the yankee is a salofs so this is kind of haart to bridge
honesty
like kill of mobin
we're nw
right
as we all know kill baltin is not a fascion the shia sunni split
yt
the
claims of
because he supported the freedom convoy and
there was a
racist
leader of the organization
is this
bullshit guilty by association shit the same shit
that the synthetic left always dead with caleb and duke
it's the same shit
so
because
ah
the freedom convoy
had this leader and
you're guilty by association if you support
the i know we can squash we're going to squash the beef
ok
go to squash the beef
whever unity stream
jason trave and yank
n b levels not invited
go
the
ok there's the infrared is classes the there's
infrared and haz are wrong about the service industry
the
service industry
you
thir
failed
understand
so
have
by the way make their living based off the sale of labor oka it's not true because
you're not getting a living based on
the exchange of their labor value they're getting and living because
they're getting a definite
um
minimum wage usually
in exchange for performing services that's not the same as selling your labor
aight
because the minimum wage is a form of revenue
so you're basically opting into a stream of revenue you're not
the're opting into a stream of revenue
by agreeing to follow the protocols
of that workplace
which i mean it seems like it's the same thing and it's just not
it is sale of labor
it's an exchange of the labor commodity
with
its price ok that is not what is going on here
because labor has been
um
so it's not labor it's not general labor at all
ok
labor loses the quality of its generality in these service industry jobs
they were not exchanging their labver
they are agreen
to the institutional conditions of opting into a stream of revenue
two different things
ok
two very different things
and it seems like the sample is say oh you're not going to get paid unless you do work
right
you're just getting hired to do work
that's not the same thing
exactly
actually
because that's a condition of you getting paid
that wearing the right clothing to work is also a condition wearing your uniform is also a condition right there's also other conditions
that doesn't mean
for example me explain like this
you go to mcdonald's
you have to wear the mcdonald's unifm
you don't wear the uniform you're getting fired
condition of your employment right
ok
including your condition of your employment is you've got to like
no
i
prepare food
and this is the condition of employment that we
notice the most because it's the one that actually
is taxing on our energy
the most right
that doesn't mean you are selling your labor
you're selling way more than your laboor
oy
you're selling your services
selling yourself
ah
you're not even
it's not so much that you're even exchanging any commodities for a wage
you are opting into a definite stream of revenue
under definite conditions
the performance of services among them
not the same as selling labor policiy
it is not the same
and i'll tell you why
because they're not getting paid because of their labor power
even though their labor power is a necessary factor
of mcdonald's running smoothly we all know that
bas
you're not
thank you so much beard strikes again
just haint right
thank you so much the moring
it's because it's a necessity for the smooth running of the
franchise
doesn't mean mcdonald's is getting its revenue or its surplus profits if you want to call it that
rum labor it's not
so
you're not exchanging your labor value for your income
at mcdonald's
as a commodity
it's not
you are agreeing to the performance of services
among other things
in order to opt into a definite stream of revenue
m
revenue not deriving from the equivalent of what your labor produces
that's the key thing
when you get paid at mcdonald's you're not getting the equivalent
of what your labor produced
even if that was true incidentally
it's not actually what it is
you're not just getting paid back
the cost of your labor
based on the performance of that labor as a commodity
that's why most you know
you're getting paid
further performance will be total service
including wearing the uniform
following the arbitrary rules and all that shit
very different things
very very different things
first
because the way in which mcdonald's accumulates revenue
primarily in the form of monopoly rent
again like pretty much everything else
it is not in the form of traditional capitalist accumulation
the mytht mcdonald's like oh y was mcdonald's
and it was successful so you open up another one and you open up another one that never fucking happens what happens is that
you're successful and banks look at that
so they're going to invest in you
to open up more franchises because they're popular with the public
and yourit your profit margins are just a measurement of data
your profit margins have towo
functions a measurement of data
or banks
or as a condition of your subsistence
in the twenty first century
it's not enough to actually become
or transform into an independent form of capital ac cumulation
it's just not
now
job
lot of
lass
sit
yes
think
sense
necessary
father
is this is he basically just saying
automation because yankee this just means either a reduction of total labor hours or it means new forms of
us heavy industry labor so i don' i don't know what you're talking about
productive jobs are not going to go away anytime soon
and if they do that's all the better because that means there can just be a total reduction i don't think's not going to address the reduction of labor hours argument is he
i
that's be believe it or not yankees not like
i don't think he's actually like disabled right
he's he's relatively articulate
you know
he' is not is not really stupid
i don't think he's to
i don't think he's smart
ry but he's not like his dumb
as you would expect them to be
because of how silly he is you know he's
he's a better debater than the other guys
yes
and i want of them
i goos
t
it's been good guys
been good
and good for me
and god for you
see you guys
an extreme
bye
just you way f all the broken hearts that goyn you faithus just