Beating the Gatekeepers
2021-03-06
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we have experience you know what
holy shit guys you have no fucking idea
i'm so sorry guys i had no fucking idea
that it would take this long
i'm going to tell you what happened
so few things
first the
what happened is basically when i was like
trimming this beard
my
fucking trimmer
i was like troubleshooting itt
i was like why is it not cutting the hair
and then i
the
can expell like i have a tremor and there's like different blade sizes you can put on it
and the cover you put on the blade
had some gonk in it
so i had to fuck and scrape it out because the water wouldn't clean it out
and it's like it was fucking hell you know
but i
yeah i had to trim this beard guys you know
i started to look like the quartering and we don't want that quartering look you know i'm saying i here i here over in ford you know i'm saying
so
but i'm so sorry butbout that guys it's never going to happen again
i had no fulk and id
you know i just got out of the shower right now and i'm just as funcking got dressed right now you know so
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for that bad as fuckan introl never gets old that fuck and introl never gets all
you know
oh man goys
i went straight from the gym
which in itself
was hell working out but i have to do it every day you know it's that consistency if i just start skipping days
where does it end you know so
i started working out and i knew was going to take thirty four minutes i started it
at
nine zero four or something
no not i n four it started at eight
fifty
and i knew i was going to be late like is the minute i got to the gym i know was going to be late
you know because setting up the equipment and shit was
bctude
forget about the negativity you know
but you know what guys
since you've been waiting here for so long
you know
you must know what we do in the beginning of these stdreams
i have a hunch you have you have a good idea
of what we do in the beginning of these dreams
but i
i want to test the chat
s know we do in the beginning of these stream
i'm interested
i'm interested in
seeing if you guys are aware what happened
in the beginning of the dream
maybe you don't know
you know
maybe you don't know
you may not know you know
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i see you do know
in the beginning of every stream
of the infrareent sioal
you know we do
we check
they're red it we check
the read it you understand
we check
ag ready
we check
thegh ready
and i've not been seeing some really super fast growth on this readit
how come we a five hundred members yet i'm look at three hundred eighty wow you know i'm saying
but
we need this ready to grow guys
and i'm saying we need this reddit to grow
and i
we accept hate posts and
pro and for red posts we won't delete them
they may get downvoted it's not up to me
you know i'm saying democracy rules majority rules
but you know i'm saying
go we check every new post on the read it
and how long we're going to be doing that
it's not not going to be too long because
when we get like five hundred thousand members on this red w're not can be able to check every post
so
for now whaterever you post we're going to see it and we're going to cover it we're going to check it onstream
guarantee understand
mauds can you also do me a favoor and put the discord link in the chat
again
but anyway
ready this cringe
yeah i know it read it culture is cringe but
this is our shit you know i'm saying
gives a f
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cigaretes right
what is this
hold on first of all one point i forgot to mention marx was an anti semite so fuck marx
you know don't don't talk shit about marxs on my stream fuck you
where march this year you're going to honor and apologize for that you're getting the fuck out
go ahead i'm i'm sorry karl marx um
you know what guys
we have this debate
this debate
with the anti semitism accuser guy
a
but we just need a fucking thumbnail
you know we have it uploaded and it's just onlisted
all we need is a good thumb nail
so maybe we'll put a bounty out if veryone has some spare time and you just want to create a thumbnail for that
just fou look at the format we created for our previous debates
it's like washing them
and just use that format because we're we're lose we
yeah
ok
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the only thing
i like this
actually like this
the school
s a member of yard chack last night
those fucking people with tailes
they were fucking freaking out because i was saying genetics are myth
falket
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i'm how do i share this video on twitter
can i just like share the pure link to the video
it what is this ok i'm going to
i'm sharing this on
i'm sharing
book
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infrared bingo
is this insulting me out iut
very bad case of anglo brain
m
let's read
wasoh
put a video titled the abiding is gkieping kids in cages
but
there's something you should know
of course
cot
and you still defend him
he's a fucking rad live body it's honestly sad you cannot see it he's a pro american empire liberal
wake the folk up
negative twenty nine points
look at their fucking cock community
are you some and cap yet who thinks
kids should be dumbed
do
why did you fucking talk about it then the trump era then
you fucking idiot the whole your argument then
was that they just should be they should just be free to
you know be in america
and not be detained
you fucking vas beitches dude tell me what is falking different about biden doing it
is there a fucking difference i'm missing
ok if there's a vosit retard in the chat
i'm going to let you come in my v
whenever
and i just want you to like explain the difference to me
because i honestly think there is none
i would love you to explain the difference to me
let me get an invote
i'm going to send an invite out in the chat
can a voh site give me the difference
like why did you not use this argument when it was happening under the trumptdministration
can any retard washite
give me an answer
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job of the vosh as following bitch
here we go with the fucking drug driving shit
you know what i'm downloading that sorry for metal
i'm downloading it
i find i want i wan't i won't download
matter
here we go with the full metal posting
classic full medal
it's got nothing to do with me though
right
i'm going to talk about something about our discord very soon
like after right after the read it i'm going to sit down with you guys and have a conversation with you
about some discord drama o oh discord drama bucking g
right
this is actually true
can we get some non edgy stalin means because
i feel like stalin there's nothing to be edgy about
like
i feel like we need to normalize stalin
because
during world war two he was normalized
like you know they would call him uncle joe
i'm not saying to calm uncle joe but i'm just saying like
he's not like some edgy guy you know
we have to think about stalin dif
you know we shouldn't when you should just use them to trigger libs
should actually appreciate him as
one of the greatest
leaders in the history of mankind
which he was
i
i kind of don't even
i guess it's like a muslim culture thing i don't even want to show his image on screen
because
yeah
i just
it's kind of weird
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i don't know what this is but ill
today
i don't
i don't know enough what
oh oh is this leftism today on lefty pool
can someone confirm this is him
let's read it
because i don't want to talk shit about it if it isn't him so if someone can confirm it's him or not
let's reado wes to say though
just watch has debate fellow traveler
you have to be a huge
can someone confirm who this is before i start ripping into them because i know this is going to be a little bitch
talking shit
someone please confirm who this is
because i
can someone
it's him
ok i trust you genis
ok this is leftism today by the way
i went on his dream
and he conceded to every point i brought up
every single fucking point
he was talking shit
then i came on
then he wanted to be my friend when i came on
but i'm not going to give him any moore
thank
i'm going to let you guys do that
let's read what he has to say though
you've got to be a massive suit look what a fucking bs this guy is what a fucking cocksucker what a fucking coward what a pussy
what a fucking pussy
falking pussy
i know for a fact this is how it works
they act like they're your friend
then they go talk shit like this
you bitch hay leftism today how come you couldn't demonstrate whatever you're about to say on stream then ha
and what are you going to say let me read it
he literally uses the same tactics as wasoh when vosh says labor theory values a philosophy in a way of looking at the world
that can't be defined
when did i say that you fulking idiot
when did i say you can't define things
i never fucking said you can't define things you falking idiot go back and actually rea watch what i say about definitions you fucking moron
my only regret is not looking into this lao i'm a loukw dude you i literally when i came and saw your stream talking shit about me you were shaking you were shaking your voice was trembling
you were fu your fucking voicees trembling i dodn't know how it was going to be here and when i came on stream you literally
did everything but get on your knees
that's what a cock you are in a fucking pussy you are
but you're going to call me a low cop
why does anybody fulking give this guy any attention a
he doesn't have any content and he's not smart either on stream i caught him
saying things about marxs which weren't fucking true which were so patently fucking stupid and untrue
that he had to roll it back he doesn't know shit about marxism this guy is an all fucking thing about marxism
this is just proof that cloud means ever putting yourself out there just a is a magic trick as long as you go on you tube and you say shit
people are going to think you're smart i know for a fact this guy doesn't no shit about marx
but just because why he has a youtube channel
he why does he can someone explain why he has a reputation even on leftyopoole
ok
trying to broker peace with hm in his zoomoid fans yeah more like getting on my knees
and getting on your knees and begging me for forgiveness which i'm not going to give you anymore you pussy
you fucking beach
and if there's anybody
who believes in infrared
you will only ever interact with eleftism today by clowning on hi
because i don't know how funcking more clear cut it needs to get
first he came on begging for forgiveness
then he made a stream talking shit
and i found him and the stream is is there
by the way
unless he deleted it
god you know what did he delete it
it's on here on the red it
he might have deleted it actually
let me see hold on i don't want to skip this
leftism
he did he debated vosh that's ovi known rity
yeh i asked to attack me because he's a pussy and he failed and meanwhile joe biden is award where's the leftism today post
can someone check if he deleted that video
because if he did
what a bitch but he made his stream talking shit about me saying in for it was a paper tiger i got on his stream and blew the fock blew him the fock out
blew him the fock out
and now he's doing this so two times in a row if you care about infrared you're only ever going to clown him or you going to ignore him
like how funcking more clear cut does he need to get
did he fucking deleteed
chris morelock he deleted it
he fucking deleted that
does anybody have a copy
does anybody have a copy
i'm clicking that neat
it's focking gone
it's focking gone
did anybody say that
did anybody save it
please i hope to god did anybody save it
did anybody fucking save this
what a pussy dude what a fucking pussy
what a fucking bitch
what a fucking bitch
fok
i hope someone saved it
let's read this
they will definitely be the last time i ack knowledge this moron some the fuck up you cloud chasing bitch
all you've ever falkinged done is chake klaus
chase cloud
using infrared's name you little bitch you little fucking pussy
i'm going to rip apart whatever the fuck you're about to say with ease
as i've already given him way too much attention but just to clarify some dumbshit hazards things marx gave concrete first of all this whole business about concrete definitions marx never gave concrete definitions err go saying words and saying this is the essence of how that word can be used in every context and every fucking type of way that's the meaning of the anglo box
with bucking moron
marx described all of what
those things are he did describe allse what all those fucking things are but the manner by which marx gives expression to these concepts is dialectical he doesn't fuking write a string of words and say this is all this is he uses them in many different types of ways and it's up to the reader to arrive at what the definition is
by threading them all together and seeing the consistency
you there's no sentence that's going to sum up every consistent way in which this word is going to be used across every possible fucking context
this is the biggest fucking straw man i've ever falking red
if i've ever fucking right of straw man this is it but you want know the most fucking pathetic thing of all this stupid fucking cock bitch leftism to day
we literally went over this on his stream and this is what we debated about literally this
when he said oh marx he gives a clear definition of use value exchange value
i said yes he does because in capital
he's the he invented these folking words so of course he's going to give the readers some kind of idea of what he's trying to say when he's using these words but the issue with leftism today as i told him where does marx define what value is
and he had to concede to me that marx never defines value he gives expression to what value is across capital one
two and three
the whole project was about that
otherwise he was taking it from classical political economy and pretty much assuming people knew
what he was talking about
value is something that adam smith was discussing cardter were discussing he never fuck and created a definition x nelo from the void
that's the anglo box i'm critiquing
youw fucking idiot dumb as
fucking leptism today pitch
you fucking straw man idiot bitch i never said he wasn't describing those concepts i said he never fucking pinned down what the essence of those concepts were
into one string of words created against the void and held up to be applied to every possible context in every possible fucking situation
when weres where you guys getting this fucking idea
that infrared things definitions aren't
real
or possible of course listen do you know what the definition of a definition is and this is what i asked leftism today by the way you want to know the definition of a definition is it just means the manner by which a word is intelligible you cannot actually premise the definition of a word
voluntarily the definition of a word must be developed
or actually is developed
in actual reality
in a way you can't even yourseelf control
this is why marx writes in one of his forwords to capital
that
the method of inquiry differs
from the manner of expression the manner of presentation there's a fucking unbridge wble contradiction between those two things
you can't actually voluntarily define
how words are going to be used
but marx develops these concepts in an active way
across the entire project of capital
he doesn't fucking pin them down to one thing and say this is all it is and in
from the void in applies to fucking everything
you a lot of people are making straw mands about this whole definition business
you fucking stupid fuck
my whole critique of definitions is based on what fucking people like vosh do which is they say fascism is the fortune point and therefore arithmetically i could apply the fortune point that's what i'm talking talking about you creating a definition against the void and superimposing that upon reality that is not how marx gives meaning and expression to the concepts he falking uses
ok it's just not and leftism today in our fucking debate itmted that and he deleted the fucking debate and wrote this fucking paragraph
like the pussy he is
i can't fallking believe
how did oka can someone give me i'm just curious
fuck left poole i don't care about lefty pool
but how did people respond to this
couldn't they clearly see that this is a straw man
or no
did they actually think he was making a deep point
could could people not see past that this is a fucking straw man stupid fucking argument
that we already went over
like i just want to know how a human being reads this and not thinks leftism today is a fucking retard
the debate is saved
where
weere neat
i'm going to upload it on my channel
i'm going to title it
i'm going to title it
leftism today submits to infrared
send me the debate
send me the debate
commodities he doesn't fucking give a definition from the void every single use of those words you're talking about you stupid bitch
are wein a definite context and a developing concrete context he never fucking just gives a blanket definition and says
this is the essence of this word and what it's reducible to
so you're wrong
the rate of a you such a stupid fock
it does this guy have a brain or what
does this guy have a brain or what
what kind of fucking idiot is this guy
he doesn't have a fucking brain
if you actually think marx did not describe
he did describe concepts but the manner by which he is describing them is dialectical
mark said his method is dialectical he said that not me he did
in his forward of fucking capital he said his method is dialectical
and then immediately gave it a name and does know sometimes he did that particularly with concepts that he for the first time is inventing
so you're wrong about this by the way
he never directly fucking does this i literally debated him about this and i challenge him to find ok this is what i remember
okay
it was the critique of the gotha program and i said where does marx define socialism and he goes and i explained to him that he wasn't doing that
in the way he was saying because it was within a context that had nothing to do with creating some kind of
definition in the sense he's using the word definition
and i thoroughly demonstrated and explain it every single example you give me i'm going to fuck you with the context
and you're not going to be able to sustain the argument that oh therefore marx is creating anglo boxes he's not
he never fucking does
he is actually on the spectrum
yeah you know what that makes sense actually
yeah
sorry guys i don't know i jt don't if he's on the spectrum i do' even know if i should be engaging with this
because
yeah
he does yeah you know what
that is kind of sad
he just doesn't understand but
he at the same time look at all the shit he's talking
you know
and then he's saying spurg so
i just feel like he's a cloud chaser guys
maybe he's making that up
because there are people who are like this you know
there are fucking people who are like this
who are just fucking idiot cloud chasers who have no consistent position whatsoever
no i'm not going to fucking excuse it dude he doesn't have a fucking excuse
because there's people on the spectrum who don't fuck and do what he does
so no i'm not giving him any mercy
okay
i know hos stars ok
because you're making a straw man and you're ignoring
the fucking debate i had with you when you submitted to me
which you deleted but thankfully we have saved
showing where marks did this
ok he's going to make a video op ok listen guys if my community
can't either respond to that video or gleam over it and see it's bullshit
i don't know if you've learned anything from watching these streams
so i don't i'm i don't care i'm not going to give him cloup i'm not going to respond to his video i'm just not
i've falcked him over so many times why does he deserve my attention
maybe i will onstream if he makes a video but
it like is my community stupid or not
got be honest guys in the chat
do you feel like if you saw this you would actually think
like what would you think
are you you have you learned anything or noto
like wouldn't you be able to see past this dumb shit and be able to see like
this is actually not how haz
is critiquing the use of the anglo box definitions
what i wonder what lefty pule people were saying about because look at how many fucking replies
i hope everybody was dogging on him dog piling on this stupid fucking guy
because this is self eeddent evidently fucking stupid
he wants cloud he wants to make a video if you're a hostarge think i'm wrong step the fuck on
yeah but here's a thing leftism today
i would responses by saying
come here i'm going fuck you up about this
but i've done it twice
twice
twice you've submitted to me
you're not getting a third time
you're not getting any more clout
you're not getting any more clout beach
because i fucked you over two times and by the way my usual rule is that only one time is all it takes
only one time
but i give you two
to falk you up
to prove that i could falk you up
two times
people only get one chance and you got two you think i'm going to give you three to prove you're a fucking idiot and fuck you up once again no
because i already did and we're going to upload that debate i already had with him and liter this entire argument is already addressed
sixty percent support
bleptism today
forty percent support infrared were
where where is that a fucking true statistic
fellow travelers live talking about me fulkm
forkhim
what does he deserve my clout
what is he going to say i had him on
he had his chance to debate me
he fulking failed
i beat fellow traveler i wiped the fucking floor with fellow traveler
all he's doing is coping and having damage control now
too bad fellow traveler you fuck and lost
red wash
the four pieces
ok folks first
a
and we build a global
canem
sorry
since stalin died today
no i don't care about the monkey i'll final
i don't care what the monkey documentary
not a voting that
dude look how fucking strong grillas is
he's saying i'm a fed ok fine
i am wearing blue right i'm wearing like a blue feath
like cop
type of thing like
the
shoot now
guerrillas are so fucking strong dude
i love how he says i'm a fed because he loses
and this is his cot
this is his cot
in another word bernie sand
what is this
y
you guys you we know i'm a fed
you want know what we fed
because for all these years
what's his name
fellow travelers been doing the real revolution
and i came and pooped on his party
like i stopped the real revolution from happening
i'm a wrecker i'm'm i'm destroying this
lion like
up and coming movement led by fellow traveler a mao a fake maoist larper
who goes in the k mart parking lot
and does direct action by yelling at people and
you know
doing dumb shit
and i stopped that guys
i'm the fucking sad
i'm a fed because i'm putting m l on the map
and i'm fucking giving i'm actually making us popular
i'm a fed that's why i'm a fed
i'm afed because i'm liceno pilling people
that's why i'm a fed right
feds just love people to be enlightened into question
the orthodoxies of mendellion dogma
what a fucking cop
that
what's left you for
it travels a glowy no he's not a glowy
he's just a fucking idiot
you know
trust me if he was a fed he would be a little bit smarter
you know what i think our feds are son sal and like samantha banana if anyone's a fed is them
i prefer things to be well defined but you can't divorce words from their use
well this is the difference ok you can define words
but that is not that is never going to be the essence of that words intelligibility it's going to be your best attempt to sum it up
it's not actually going to be
the essence of what that word means because what that words means
is something unconscious it's something material
it's never going to be something you're going to create or control
so a definition is your best attempt to sum up meaning
but it meaning is not reducible to that
like i said before meaning is also a question of aesthetics
art is a site of meaning
can you fucking
can you fucking give a definition of the mona lisa without having an experience of encountering
of that painting in real life no
the definition what makes
the mona lisa definit
and intelligible as something new
requires
you to experience viewing it
you can't just write a string of words and that'll be enough
this is what i'm trying to say
feel like i didn't trim
correctly
yes samantha banana was a big fed
big faed type feeling
major fat vibes
sound
dylan burns is gaesssed on why
feel like i din't save right
falk that i'll do it like tomorrow
just give it another go
i'll do it tonight
what the
i
what infrared fears
i don't know what this means
the republic of west florida last longer than chaz
chaz is the biggest most stupid fucking joke i've ever heard of
full medal jesus we're back to full medal posting our
about the scandal itself i'm not going to like everything full metal does because i don't want to encourage
this speak
behavior
way too many fake words
i think pogerboy was like some dumb kid
he was
someone from his community
definitely
yeah
yeah yeah they may as well be feds is the point
like they may not be feds but they may as well be you know
but how am i a fed
for calling out dumb larping as though thata larping is the true revolution
what a stupid fucking
accusation
dumb cockfellow beach
be weere the anglo devil but i get it toward the abloky
honest to god
one of the greatest people of the twentieth
twenty first century
hugo chavez an extraordinary extraordinary person
extraordinary pers
dam's kind of sad
the fucking chad
king caong
oh
it's got thel
i'm waiting for pin pong to be owned looks like godzilla is being own to me
looks like yeah looks like king kong
one he didn't get on
based or super and i do to mount and yeah you're growing
growing fast now but eventually you're going to ok
what's the deal with russia
russia's the future because i think russia's unique civilization
it's kind of more this but it's not just this it's also the fact that
russia represents a unique civilization whose encounter with
i hate using the words iime adernity yeah and
back
the it's encounter with
modernity
is a site of genuine novel
or at least this proof that
you know
the west
anglo saxon era is coming to an end
ok now we're going to give him clout what is this
but
your growth is going to hit and yeah you're growing fast now but eventually you're going to ok well when we get there you can
miss you man on the wall
when we stop growing guys you guys don't think i have self criticism all the time
i'm all about success
if i'm not doing successful i go back to the drawing board and i figure out what i'm doing wrong
that's why i'm here
that's why we have two case subs
and
one hundred seventy viewers
if i feel like what i'm doing is wrong
and is not leading to success
i do self criticism
when
the retard
what's his name
fellow traveler
when he
fails with his mou had
he blames
the capitalists and society
see a difference
man in the wall ok man in the wall
you bett stop talking shipro because we still have this screenshot
and no your apology doesn't absolve you
okate
i'm not giving you another chance to come on you had your chance
there are so many people who are asking to come on the show
you're not coming again dude
do this is the guy who's trying to skip the line line skippers you know
and we didn't upload that debate
with that debate but we can you know
he was doing a mock arab accent on his live because he's a but hert failed bitch
what else do you expect
guys 'll stop talking about this fucking loser he's done
he's focking done
his hostile cats are his spirit animals
i do love that i love felines
i do feel like feelines of my spirit mly you know like i relate most
like
but not in a free way
in the beginning of streaming you were always self critical that there were good and bad aspects of that but it made you
yeah i mean just ok this is something else remember
remember how our first dreams
people were like hey khalab with hakim khalllab with him
remember we know what i always say i say no
we want to grow first and then so like
because i have pride you know i don't want to fucking
be a leech
you guys remember that
i wen i said i don't want to leach
off of good people
people i respect and i like
i said i have too much pride i don't want to leach off them
fuck i'll leach our bread to the people i hate
but i don't want to leach off people i respect
who are have been successful you know what i said you can literally find the exact quote if you dig
digg in the past streams
i said
it's up to us infrared to prove that we're something
because we haven't proven ourselves yet
we haven't proven that we're a viable
you know
thing that can become
sustainable and popular
and i want to do that first
instead of leaching off of others
can you imagine
if all m ls had the mentality
mhm
bok
caught that shit with spider man reflexes
i need a new fucking web caam stand they're fucking ten dollars and this is the second one i bought
in a year
it's frustrating me a lot dude
fll
god these are so unreliable shithull
i'm going to have to buy a high quality one
you know
just so i don't have to buy anymore
m
and he's probably a live but
what is my take on ready player one
it's a kind of a fun movie but
you know it's nothing
nothing impressive to me and i didn't even think it was particularly deep
at all
like
you know
it's a nice crossover movie
it's gamers unite the movie what else can i say
the gameor unity film
i
whatt what else can i say
baster crin
and you think china is live
ah
i don't really know what this comments directed to
so my dick every one of your fans and you
top ten reason why halo soks i'm downboard
you're entitled to your
full metal
you know what
i always wondered
honest to god i thought he was like persian or arab or iraqi i thought he was a like iraqi because his name was sargan
but apparently he's fully british
yeah
he has the eyes you know he has oriental eyes
iraqi or persian
i'm doing phys anogamy or whatever sorry guys don't
apparently he'sjust british
just english
is he guys look at this he's got black hair he's got some white in his hair
this is a rtge
on
i always thought he was honest to god i always thought he was like arab or some
he's not he's fully british
foot
you know what he is
he's descended from the normans
he's known he's descended from the french normans
who came to britain
guarantee you that
i guarantee you he's descended from the norm none of this matters but like
yeah
i don't know
he's as white as they come
he must be like french to send it
i could see him being french
i
yeah idologically he's fucking
no
he is ideological
are beus
on
but i aways thought he was like arab
you'll be surprised like a lot of people
some of the most like
biggest nationalists
you'll find out that there they come from minorities
of their country of some kind
i've seen it so often like the biggest nationalistic type of people
come from their
well i debate sargon maybe one day i will you know
i want to
you know get the fucking
get the fuck and left straight
and then yeah we will start debating riighti's
soon as we
i guess we become bigger
but if they you know if they challenge me i guess
i
what does white in itself mean
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it's don't
bred do we come for you
a fascist
watched instantly di
full metals back at it again or not we check
the're ready
factual
factual
we checked
tho ready
very factual
and actually i'm going to tpe
factual
because it's true
chomsky's nightmare
and to me a is a snake oil salesman
he is a wizard
i kind of don't agree with this but i'll vote anyway
i feel you should care what people think you should
you should debate and shit
but you should never think that is the site of truth
per se
like
i go into my cave
and i do real theory
and then i come to you guys and i distill it in a way that's presentable
but
i never make the assumption that when i'm debating one of these people
that this is where some big theory is being developed actively
it's not my theory is developed
isolated not even for the whole world it's only for me
my writings are only for me
they're only for me
and i come here in
present it you know i present i present my writings and my ideas and if you think that's easy to do
please try it it's not easy
you have to simplify things that in your head when you're encountering and experiencing it
extremely complicated shit like shit that will give you a headache
you know
lecture fan
lectropaned it was is rap the rap song of lectropan
lectro fan is here in the conservative twitch and we got nimp
ryan and i don't know fucking emp and on
basti yacht
looks a bit cringe to me
you know he's always wearing a suit and shit it's like dude
youed chill
is he a lawyer
hass and obvis a fed no he's not
but no it's not based
leave the gerrillas alone there
debate
yeah false rhyme keep hiding for me this is hiding f e
you are next
yacuban
is this racis i even know
looks like this is this is it
looks like this is h i'm the
the the
i will never make a tick tok lefty laura it will never happen
i'm
i will be buried
six feet under
before i create an account on tikta
it simply will never happen
it simply will never happen
like i will never
ever create
a tick top
it simply will not happen
until the day i die it will not happen
the buck am i going to do on tick top
my life is like a video no sh guys yeah i know you guys ving to sing it so you can clip it and you fuck you guys i'm not doing it
trying hard to play the game all while i am still collecting coins
coins
f ame i going to do one tic talk
what's the ticktok trend
what's like a popular ticktox song
my life is like a video game
someon s pos infrared clips on ticktak
the folk is up with tick top whyse we keep talking about it like what am i missing
but i'm missing
i remember the whip in shinane
i remember that
you got to do the whip
sorry am i going to do that
what else what else the cotton i joe
i remember the conton i jol
ha i mean a got nigo i've been wearing long time ago where did you come from where did you go where did you come from catt nigo
what's the other one
the old town road
i'm goan to tak my horse on old town road and i'm a
right did like a no more i got a words in the burk
look my med them back
what's the other one
what's the other one
gungham style
opa dunham starle
you can't re sing that
what's the other one ha
was the first one before gangham style
it was
was there a beeck of black friday
friday friday
got to get down on friday it is friday right now isn't it
friday
friday got to get down on friday
everybody's looking forward to the we get friday
friday
get in down on friday everybody is looking forward to the week and party m party yeah party m partyy and yeah fun fun fun fun looking forward to the weekd
seven a m i'm waking up in the morning got o you go in andn downstairs got o my friends in the car downstairs
looking forward to the weekend
well noy im when i go outside m in the car
that
is
friday friday
friday gota get down on for funk guys i't remember the lyrics
and remembver the leaves
but why should i make it tick talk when you just have that i just gave you from some book and ti talk
what else
what else
what else
what else we got
trying to think
what's like some trends some like trendy
thing the last one was oll town road no isn't it
wasn't it now
yeah oll town road was the last one
there was a dret you know was a drake song but that was a kind of a fake one
as far as ever been into friday
i'm twenty four guys ok
oh out of the box
out of the box
out of the box
out of the box
let's go out of the box
out of the box
out of the box
out of the box
let's go out of the box
out of the box
oh out of the bux
out of the box let's go out of the box
ot of the box the switch come back tomorrow i don't know
out of the bucks
ah the bucks
out of the box
oh man that song as me hed a
honesty
just because it's like
hard to see
but im
got her
neon thoughts on carl schmidt
marxis should study him
definitely should study him
um
i wanted to ok i do want to talk about something guys i do want to talk about something really quick
what's the title the stream
breaking the gatekeep
right
so there's a lot of dumb bullshit in the discord
and i'm not taking sides i'm not talking about the thing that's going on now but earlier now there's a whole thing about
people are debating about race or something intersectionality someth like that
earlier though
i'm going to address the discord ok just plain
we follow discord rules we will follow all of discord rules you understand
we also have some of our own rules like if you say the n word you're banned immediately
if you say that word you're bad immediately
and most other slurs
we either ban you immediately or will give you a warning because
some people might know when you saing why you platform timing
well here's why
here's why ready
because believe it or not a big proportion of people comeing to infrared are coming from right wing and conservative backgrounds
ok
and infrared is not here to appeal to the existing left
we are here
to give new meaning to the word socialism and communism
and
even though we don't necessarily approve
of
right wing and conservative views were not approved but we don't
have them ourselves
we think that the left wing
progressive in marxist position
needs to be set on new footing
okay
it needs to be set on new footings
now
the left
is
inflicted
with an issue of gatekeeping
and what i mean by that is that
only a specific type of person can be a leftist
right
because of the whole political correctness stuff but it's not because leftists are just the ones against sexism and homophobia and transphobi on racism andll kind of stuff
it's because leftists initiate themselves into a whitewashed academic and institutionalized language
whose objective meaning is
the class meaning is
we are the professional managerial class
the content of what left to say doesn't matter we're agains to homophobia transport
this lip service which is completely fake
the real meaning of it is where the professional managerial class ok
we are against bigotry
and we are against
transfhobia and whatever you're saying
but those things have to be set on a new footing
you can't hide behind
the authorities that exist now
google and youtube in the pucking universities
you have to put it on a new footing
and we want the people in our discord
to be able
to develop ways of putting it on a new footing so they can actually have conversations
with wriightters and conservatives
and hopefully win them over
by presenting it correctly
because
the left wing gatekeepers are opportunists
they they are making the
claim that they're merely defending against bigotry
but they're hiding the tyranny of the professional managerial class
the reason the masses
and right wingers mostly
reject the left
is because of this opportunism because
they're reading behind the lines
ok it's not because they're inherently bigoted or evil people
it's because
they don't want to be the snowflake pussy type you know
fake
and yes leftists are very fake
inauthentic and ingenuine
type of people who just lie to themselves about what they really think
ok so yes i know our discord is a bit wild and we're doing our best
but the reason we're honestly not modeing more people is because a lot of
very few people understand this right now
and we need mods who understand this
we need mad to understand
that there's a political realignment going on
and we're not here to cater to the established left we're here to overthrow the established left
and that is inevitably going to
succeed in winning over a political people conservative people right wing people
and i have more faith in those people
than the established type of bread tube left but admittedly there are even there are people from vashs community
who are coming
but to those leftists who are having
problems with our discord policies
i don't want to call you out but i just want to tell you
that
you should do some self criticism and think about how your approach is kind of like gatekeeping
are you really satisfied with the people who make up the left right now
don't you think the left needs to expand
don't you think the left needs different kinds of energy than the kind of energy it has now
don't you think
a lot of people who would otherwise be great leftists
are swept up in the whole conservative and rightesst type of stuff
because of the deficiencies and failures of leftists
kll just shot me o on stream
awesome man
awesome thank you so much caleb
and i'm really looking forward to the
sunday are to sunday discussion
but
another thing too is that
i also don't want leftists to be comfortable in their position
you know not saying
don't be comfortable being against bigotry everriori were against bigotry as human beings
but
i want you to rethink
how you judt how you talk to people
how you justify your positions
you can stand sty i'm not telling you to do anything
you can stay steadfast
you can bully people
for being transphobic
you can tell him you're fucking idiot you're dumb ass you can do all of those things
don't get me wrong you can
i'm not going to stand in your way
the it's not against the discord's rules to do that
but
some
might also try different approaches
ah
i know this because in my experience when i talk to right wingers
we come to an understanding
you know
i know how to talk to people who disagree with me
but who i can still regard as decent human beings
and a lot of right wingers and a lot of conservatives
are fundamentally decent people
contrast that to the established left
these are not decent people
they're fucking reptilians
they're fucking lizards
and they say all you're saing the turges oh the turny semment no it's not anti semitic
you're as lizard like
anti human piece of shit
who's using
progressive language
to disguise
your own fucking petty thirst
for self a grandma aggrandizement
sadism and power
like sansaul and all those types of fucking people
this fake left
doesn't actually believe in anything authentically
they just believe in authority
they do existing authorities it's all they fulking believe that
a lot of conservative and right wing people are fundamentally decent people
ok
they're decent people who just want the world to make sense
they're not fucking evil people ok
they just want the world to make sense they just want things to be true they just want to stand by what they consider to be the truth
and i'm not saying all right are all right wingers a conservatives are like that it's not true a lot of them are snakes
just like anyone else
but
a lot of leftists are writing off a little bit too much people
way too much people
and the
and that's my experience cause i've talked to people normally
and behind a lot of you know what appears to be
you know
bigotry
you can come to an understanding and they'll see it from a different perspective
at least give them and another option another perspective
becuse the only option a lot of these right wingers have right now
is
the established right wing or the established left
if you're a true infrared follower
or viewer or
you're about this new project in this new vision for the left
give people a new alternative
and i'm not saying compromise on your positions
don't compromise
don't compromise stay steadfast by what you believe in
but you need to put it on some new grounding
you know
because there's a lot of things that just appear like you're defending
marginalized people
but you're actually reproducing
through your language
the power of the liberal status quo which every normal human being hates
ok i'm not saying pander to people
i'm not saying you know
be tim pool and be a that type of person
i'm just saying
i
it a lot of the times when it appears you're just
defending
progressive values and marginalized people
you're using language that is secretly aligning you and coding you
as part of the ruling class and part of the establishment
you know
you should be able to
defend transgender people
or
dispel
the
bigoted attitudes against them
without sounding like bread tube
because i know i know how to do that
i think you need to have more good faith
in the humanity of people you've written off
as irredeemable
because
there are people i consider irredeemable
but a great many of them happen to be leftists not riightis
you know let me tell you guys something about dialectics
dialectics means
that the true enemy
is going to be the established left
and the reason for that is because
people like son sal and vosh and all those people are benefiting from the left's weakness
we are objectively in a state of weakness as the left
but yet wash and sonsl are thriving
while not corresponding to any meaningful change in that situation they're just telling people to vote for biden in their shilling for the democrats
so if they're growing fat
and they're growing wealthy
they're profiting off of the less failure
so they are the enemy
okay
i just want to put this oud here for the discord don't be a gatekeeper ok
and don't be and don't feel obliged to have to do anything
because i know it's hard to do the things i'm talking about
but for the love of god please just respect why we have the
policies we have in place on that discord
we want to prevent
every instance of personal abuse
against people because of their backgrounds
that we can
like
abuse against transgender people and
that's immediately going to be a ban right
but
if people just have conservative views in general while not making it personal
it's not enough for us to ban them it's just not
and you know the barriers really high i'm a muslim ok
there's people in our fucking discord
who say the iraq war was good
and who expresses islamophobic views
does that get under my skin it does honest to god it does
but i still don't ban them
ok
i still don't ban them
because we need to prove our strength
we need to prove our strength
we can't take for granted the existing left
and its ways
ok
i hope i cleared that up
you know
i hope i've cleared that up
because
honest to god
it needs to be said you know it need to be said and i know bread two people are going to come into our discord and say oh look at inference community
but i'm not i don't care you know because
our position is very clear
not everything that's being said in the discord reflects our views obviously it doesn't
but in the main the main tendencies do
in the main
people in our discord are not
transphobic or homophobic or racist
or anything like that in the main
ok
there are minorities
itiological minorities
and what these people do bread to is they
go in the search war and they look up terms
derogatory terms what he did before
and they're seeing a small minority saying these which we didn't catch because our moderation team is
you know
not that numerous
and the saying all this is their community
no it's not our community in the main that's not our community
okus is not
but
we do we're not going to ban people for ilogical disagreements
because the majority of users in our discord
will dominate those people
ok
it is not a uniform community you're right
listen i want you guys to think dialectically from here on out
when you're thinking of our community i want you to think in terms of
waves
in oscillations
and tendencies and orientations
don't think in terms of rigid categories and rigid positions
remember what i said about socialsm chinese characteristics in the chinese communist party
there's all sorts of tendencies in that party
but would makes the party
lead
is that it keeps a straight line
but yes you have to have a dialectical approach where you recognize
all of the tendencies expressive of the actual world are going to be represented
we can't hide that up
uh
what we must do is make sure that the correct line in the correct
path
takes
hey gemony
and preponderate over all the rest
it's filled with contradiction
our discord is full of contradictions
but
we don't agree with the bred tubes approach we're just going to ban people because they disagree with those idological
we just not going to
ok
werechjus is not going to
and
yeah i hope that's cleared up
ipe that's cleared up
i'll get cleared up
yeah jimmy doore's audience you know we
yet the discord servers multipolar there's
we have to think in terms of polarity you know we're not a kingdom
with walls
we can't filter and root out
on
yeah
to be fair i watched your video debating vos frien earlier one of those coments were intentionally misgendering her
ok
even if it's true yased
like what is your point
what's your point
our position as infrared is clear we're not misgendering people
so
what's your point
i don't understand what your point is
i just hate people who try to create problems out of fucky nuhs
you know
i'm not going to foking
write everyone off
for shit like that i'm just not
just like if there islamophobic i'm not going to and i don't do that
i don't write people off there islam phobic
but leftists have this tendency where they're going to click on somebody and they're going to look at their history
and they're going to see you know i bet you
ninety nine percent is a possibility that
a huge chunk of our community if i checked their history
they're going to be saying something about
muslims that's really derogatory and shit
but
why would i do that dude
why would i why would i go out of my way to try to dig dirt on people
you know
i
i've talked about transgender issues before
i've actually talked about
i said
that to me
a lot of the time
it seems like
the anti transgender people are the ones
creating of the problem
and otherwise transgender people just want to be normal human beings
and that if you have a respectful distance toward them
and respected that
there wouldn't be a problem
a lot of right wingers think pathological thoughts about transgender people
effectively
being guilty of the same perversion that they imagine transgender people
to be guilty of
i've said this plenty of times
i'm sick of virtue signaling about it
because my position is crystal clear
okank
i'm not a virtue signaller type of guy i'm just not
i don't represent transgenders
i don't represent the gay community
and i don't represent every racial minority
i represent infrared
ok
i'm not here a virtue signal
i don't represent all these people they have their own movements
they have their own leaders
they have their own
seeing going on
i'm not going to be like sansal and have a
trans flight
a trans flag in the back
to virtue signal
and that's all fucking is virtue signaling by the way
is that showing solidarity n know what's fucking not it's virtue signaling for brownie points
we don't have to fucking account for every struggle
and you can't do that
you have to respect your limitations
and we do have limitations objectively and there's nothing we can do about
ok
i mean we're already fucking cancelled you know i don't care if we get cancelled
it's
it's fine
i am not a virtue signaler i'm not
i'm never going to virtue signal
that's all the falcon is virtue signaling
it will never happen
i don't even hearg your signal about china
you se have to accept your limitations
ok
it's not always your struggle
it's not for me to lead
you can have a progressive position
without being a leftist type of snake
you know
has are you shia
im
yeah that's that's the family in which i was raised but i
honesty actually maybe deep in my heart i am
but
i'm open to
h h um
i'm open to sydney
theology as well
i'm not dogmatic and i'm open to
other religions too
like
i have a nice affinity with i have a big affinity personally with
orthodox christianity
but this is all very like
spiritual purely spiritual kind of feeling and aesthetic and cultural
i am a marxist so i have the marxist view of
marx's view of religion and stuff
but
that doesn't mean
that doesn't mean the end
of all religious meaning
ok
i
like let me give you an example
when you are saying a prayer
when you're speaking a prayer and a religion
are you necessarily making all of these metaphysical commitments
that are usually associated with religion are you actually saying you believe in this metaphysics of
you know
entities and all you're not you're actually not doing that
i mean after modernity that's what it became
but before the modern era you think when people recited prayers they were making metaphysical claims about the universe they weren't dude
they were just
participating in a meaningful
in a meaningful type of practice that it has some kind of meaning
now the morxis use that the meaning is about humanity
it's a human mean
not strictly about
a specific type of humanity but about our humanity in general
like the human essences mark
call
but marx agrees that it is fundamentally meaningful
ok
it's fundamentally meaningful
so
the marxist view of religion has nothing to do with the western atheist kind
a robespier thought
that atheism
was aristocratic
and he was right it is aristocratic
marxist atheism is completely different
it's a completely different type of thing
and it's i think marxist atheism is compatible with the spiritual
colonel of all religiionus
i
and it's
ya i don't want i don't know if i should get into this
o discussion
because it's a little bit compt
but
yeah
the whole
the whole thing about religion is that
western atheism
which forecloses any meaning in religion as i'm trying to say
like
can you read
religious text from a thousand years ago and
discern the beauty and meaning in it
because if you can't do that
because of some dogmatic western atheism
you're foreclosing yourself to humanity
you know it's an extremely
it's a position of extreme
aesthetic
and spiritual poverty
um
you know
things about
divinity and all those kinds of things in religion they're not about metaphysics only after modernity they made it about metaphys
it was never about
ok
it was never about
have you read sherya
yes i did when i was young i did
yeah
art
is an inherently tied to religion
for example
the sense of beauty that we have as human beings
is given expression
in religious form for the majority of mankind's his
to bed stalin blew up ninet percent what
well even if it was ninety nine percent
the orthodox church
as an institution was fundamentally corrupt
ok
after modernity
but to be fair
stalin
a
in contradiction to the
many other people in the status quo
in the soviet government
he returned
he revived the orthodox
or he permitted the revival of the orthodox church
ah
on new terms
this was under stalin that this hap
actually i
khrusjovs anti religion campaign
this is what someone told me
was also part of the target against oalinism
it was seen as also getting rid of the the vestiges of stalinism
m
you know
what do you think of gnosticism
i just think it's so arrogant to say that
the the majority of the way mankind thought
and gave expression to itself
for modernity is meaningless
oh it's just the onech a gobbledy goop
it's all meaningless that's such a fucking ugly position
that's just a stupid and ugly position to have
but not for state atheism
soviet atheism was completely different
then
the west
that's my
completely
and
you can
i don't i'm not going to get into this because requires so much more explanation
but
no debates day there might be i don't know
tomorrow i'm going to be debating that jola guy
he's some kind of liberal
the brul guy
but
you can see how soviet marxism was fundamentally orthodox spirituality
inheriting orthodox spirituality marxism leninism in the soviet union
on
can be related to
orthodox christian
thoughts on supism
yeah
agree
i think these are all fundamentally meaningful
when you read what sufis are saying
it has a meaning
yeah i mean uh
this issue with religion is so called
it's super common
and the reason is because
somewhere something gets lost in translation
and there's a contradiction between the input in the o
what i mean by that is that
when someone thinks
they have arrived at the religious essence
to such a degree that they can now impose it upon society
and make rules about
you know
in a sense uh
they're betraying the essence of what the the revelation
religious revelution
turning it into a form
they're formalizing it
and turning it into something
different
the need
circumstances of revelation
to me my ideal
ah
my idea of
how modernity can be reconciled with religion
is that
fundamentally we all
can be afforded the assumption of being
blaing
cartesian
abstracted subjects who are at a respectful distance from the stradition
but then we can establish ways
non dogmatically in which we can
return
or be attached and establish a close connection
to tradition to religion to roots
will never arriving at a position of dogmatism
in relation
we are modern subjects
but
are determinate
the modern the modern subject is just a
it's just a a uh
well how should i pu it was that it's a question mark
we must be afforded the question mark we cannot make assumptions
we have to be
given this freedom of a question
but
where this question mark will deliver us to
we also can't control
but the problem with liberal modernity is it tries to
it confuses the question mark which is
modern subjectivity
with
the answer
it assumes the negation is itself some kind of answer but it's not
so this is the dialectic of of
of moderny
what my view is the marxist view of modernity differs from
the liberal car
you get the negation out of the way first
and then from there you can
develop a deeper
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okay guys uh
i'm thinking
a marxist must be a materialist an enemy of religion but a marxist must be a materialist enemy
consider the whole of particular situation always know
i don't think materialism is antwi religion
i think
materialism is anpty philosophy
but a lot of the times weill confuse religion with philosopy
and there're two
and religion itself confuses it because
religious institutions instantiate philosophical dogmas
but
religion
qua religion
like the essence
of religion
i think it is materialist
religion is material
the sighte of religious revelation
is something
fundamentally antecedent
primary
and sublime in relation to
ah
the ideal
it's not an ideal
o
it is
a relation to material reality of some kind
i
check ist what you're talking about
was
practical in con
what i'm talking about is a little bit more
you know
oh
lofty
right
yes in practice lenin was right
like in this situation especially
that he was in
but in lenin's time you have to remember that there was no way to rediscover religion that was lost after modernity after modernity
religion became something rotten
it became something corrupt
and it took on a meaning entirely different than what it meant
before modernity
so inen lenin speaking against religion
he's not necessarily speaking about the religion
that has defined mankind for the majority of its history he's speaking about a religion
that took on a new meeting
meaning after modernity
a
and he was fundamentally right
course he was right
what do you think about the western religions like ca thousandsm protestant church
i
i don't know i think atholicism is very diverse
i don't know if
it's so tough it's so tough is protestantsn't even real or is it still just a splinter of catholicism
because
i think
i'm not sure
protestantism always seems to split
into something else
which means there's something missing in protestantism
that is not necessarily missing in catholicis
so i don't know i think maybe the west
is more catholic in nature i'm not sure
i'm not a
you know
i'm it's undecided to me i don't
have a dogmatic position
i
our guys
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ca you guys
how do you guys feel about
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from last night
before our big debate tomorrow
protestanism is a joke
i don't know it depends on the context you know
in germany it lutheran is lutherani is am meant something different than what it meant in
you know
than what it meant in
elsewhere
none is not necessarily more progressive than the other i kind of reject the view that
protestant is more progressive
what do you think about nitsche
didn't tiy your say that
before you study nitsa you should study arasas
aristotli for ten years
so i think my answer somewhere
up that alley
you know maybe before
before you get into the
i'm debating a guy named jola tomorrow
guy named joe
i
yeah
i was just waiting
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you guys want me to play oblivion
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and i woke up in the dark brotherhood woke me up
told me to kill a guy named rufie
that's where we left of
carvo does want to come on but i'm going to leave it up to you guys
what do you think about evangelicism
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i
hopefully we can discuss it another time
kind of just
we're going to have a huge debate tomorrow and we're also getting on band from twitch tomorrow so
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i think trotskism is connected to protestantism
i'm not sure
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um
should we have a debate tonight let me check oh we can't go on shitch we're banned
what do you think of the religious ritual which is something that has existen since time or more memorial
uh read georgia butata
it's
kind of complicated when we're talking about religious ri
only
a lot of things you wouldn't think are religious rituals are related
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what's up carbal
hello
ya was a
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agent
i'm good i'm good
so i
first i wanted to comment on something you said
previously when you alluded to es centrally people not being able to think outside there gus
i do think there is a lot of truth in that in the sense not
people today they view the past with a type of
pejorative luns they don't really view
the importance of history they view those who came before them
as essentially you know worse than themselves i do think you're right in that regard
but
i did onet of viw i did want to talk about your perspective on nationalism specifically
and relation to marxism
you do have a huge concern with
you know real power
tangible influence in the world
and utilize class consciousness as a means to achieve that essentially
do you think that
but some
and the sentiment of the nation
is a stronger force than class consciousness itself
what do you think of that well
um
yes and no
i think
a lot of the time this whole issue of nationalism tends to be
uh confused
and it's
that
typical type of
error
that's kind of common in the west
is that we suffer from a terminal idealism which means we
we struggle to differentiate
objective national reality
with
the
ideology of nationalism
but i don't think they're the same
to me i
there are objective national realityes
it's as simple as that
i
stalin
writes about the national question
yeah lennon writes about the marx and engles were a little bit
more ambiguous but
they all actually had an implicit common recognition
that the site of the class struggle
presupposes a particular policy
and a particular nation
it's not that nation national national feeling is more important than class struggle
but that it's the very ground
of class struggles reality
that's why the
national liberation struggles
do are more fundamental than
ah
ideological class struggle
mm um
but that's not because it's more important than class struggle it's just because class struggle presupposes that ground
and only when it can take for granted
the national and political reality
kenneddate assert itself
i
people need to remember that class struggle
is a distinction internal to
the french citizen
of the republic the equal citizen
a only when there's an equality formal equality
of citizens
does actual class assert its reality
when we don't have this equality
this formal political equality
and this national and
independence of some kind
a the reality of class
is
distorted and obfuscated
in the the
in a more fundamental struggle
for for this
mmhmm
so you don't necessarily see
the idea of the nation as being in contradiction with marxist's theory
no but i would emphasize that the nation is not simply an idea it's an objective reality y similar to the family
so i think that w wouldll be my view onh
nations are not
a
they're not subjective conc
their objective reality
they're referring to something very real
yeah i agree with that i think people
try and denigrate the idea of the nation by saying
it's a subjective consciousness is a sub subjective identity
in the sense that we created ourselves
i think there are forces in the world which lead people to certain situations which cultivate
that consciousness the idea of the nation
which renders you to feel as a part of a collective
yeah it's not just that it's also the fact that
people have this idea that just because something
involves a subjective reality
means it's just thin air but that's not
so human subjectivity is itself part of objective
eat
i
so
just because nations might not be reducible
to some kind of a
biological substance
doesn't mean they're not real
yup m
um
so looking at this from a more a
historical ones but i
obviously love studying go twentieth century history
due to the battle of ideologies you do have
socialism on one end nationalism on the other
liberalism on the third
so these giants of ideology combating each other essentially
is a huge ub
it's a huge pointer to me of what is good and what is wrong and what's
true in those ideologies what isn't
well so i'm i think i
nationalism
this especially in the context of world war one
has a different meaning
you know mm
lennin distinguished
patriotism
from national
and uh for him that distinction rested upon the fact
that nationalism is reflected
reflexi
nationalism attempts
premise our objective national reality
by some kind but by the
idea we have of
what we are as a nation
but the idea that we have
of our nationwood
and the material reality of our nation oder
are completely different things
so oftentimes
actually
oftentimes nationalism
means the opposite
of what it appears as i'll give you an example of this
in russia
a russian nationalist like novalni
is a it is apparently a nationalist for russia
but the objective meaning
is that they're asserting
the unique realities of
germany or the west and superimposing those upon russia because
as we know russia is a multi
ethnic and multinational civilization
so the idea in nvale's head of a russian nation
and the actual material reality of russian nation
are different
and the issue of nationalism is that
it attempts to reduce the material reality of the nation
to
some kind of idea of the nation
a
but otherwise
i don't think twentieth century socialism
i think it depends where
for example it's very true in the arab world
that nationalists and socialists appear to differ
but where socialists have been the most successful is when they have united
a
socialism
and made it inexorably tied
to the national reality of the people
yah and the reason i bring up
the twentieth century is because
i want to look at specifically the case study of italy
so
in italy you obviously have the victor victory of nationalism at the end of the day
and this is partly due to the fact that a lot of socialists were
able to be convinced by
the idea that there's not only the class consciousness but also the national consciousness
which they need to consider
well
so musolini musolini for example is the most prominent example of this
even lenin
you know had a mellow melancholy attitude at the loss of mussolini he said that it's a huge regret that we lost mussolini if we still retained him we could have won utily for socialism
but so but the issue with in the case of italy with is i think that would be a textbook example of
the idea of the nation
actually
the replacing
the reality of the n
and to me there's a few things i
it's very true that socialists in italy there's a reason why they
ya
there is a reason why
but
it's not simply that they neglected the nation and musulini did
actually
it's almost as though that they were too close together
because musolinis
ah
national
consequences and stakes
was some kind of occlusion
some type of not repression but
neglect
and ignorance of
the southern
southern italian
yeah this is sillance
yes exactly the southern italian the
and national substance
was was
was
violently reduced
to an idealized view of
italianation
so
ideal of the nation
came at the expense of the true
reality of the nation
i
and
this this
it has yet to be properly investigated to what extent
this internal
o
foreclosure of the southern italy
also
was related to the it
invasion of libya and the invasion of
ethiopia
which in the reason i say that is because southern italy
is
from the western
point of view
too much connected with african and
arabic
do
atilization
so there are things about italy that musolini
had to sacrifice much in the same way that
russian nationalist
thinkers
we're adopting the germanic paradigm of nationalism which
whose consequence was an inclusion of the special russian
reality so the what the russian white army for example
if you listen to their music
their song
it's very much
western and european
but the bolshevik
red army
song
for example this is just a very minor example
it's very expressive
very much
deeply soulfully russian
so this is kind of where
i think uh
there ises
mm
and by the way a huge impetus for colonialism was the fact that
the national situation maturely
couldn't handle the requirements of the populace so as a result they would seek out these foreign lands and you know conquer them for their own benefit so that was
also a huge jumpetusd like god
but a the reason i bring up twentieth century history is
i think history is valuable in the sense that it provides us knowledge
to implement today
so obviously
it's a huge change in the status quo during the twentieth century
as we're currently seeing again i feel like i feel like
there is being occur currently there is occurring a power vacuum
which is obviously welcoming of a lot of opportunities
so with this being said i think
that
if you want to change anything
and today's age if you want to change the status quo
the establishment
it's going to essentially have to come from the right wing i don't have
much hope and the luve
as you even perceive to a small extent because essentially
you do have this type of
co opting
of the left by the establishment so just as you do for example in the twentieth century with
these factions working with one another
you currently do even today
well i think i
the right
as far as the right wing is concerned
example in america
and europe
i
i don't really think they pose
and successful threat
to the established
i
specificly in the case of the united states
we saw in the case of trump
for example why that was because
what is
because we have to look at reality objectively we cannot say like
ideally this is the right wing i
right
we have to look at
we have to trace things to history
as you were talking about and also
the current reality
i
in the case of truck
to be a consistent right winger
he needed the support of the republican
republican establishment
and that required him to make many sacrifices
which
were completely impotent
completely fail
to
overthrow the wider establishment at large
the the
suppose it i wouldn't call it left wing but i think i know what you would
you were mean when you call it left you
the supposed left wing establishment was so strengthened
by trump's rule
in the past four years
to me um
to me i view right wing
the problem with the right to me is similar to the problem
ander
is that the right
appears to
ah
this is my hidegara
the right
ah
but
attempts to arrive at the essence of what is ordered
what is justice what is good
what is morality
what is culture what is nation and so on
but
they become too comfortable
in
what they perceive
as the ideal essence of these things
in such a way that enters into contradiction with their actual material reality and which results in his position
a vain position
of what hegel calls
i don't want to overwhelm you the bullshit but
he calls it the unhappy consciousness
where you're permanently in a state
of
rebellion against the world and dissatisfaction and disappointment
and so on and so on
a
for example the right wing has a special idea of
culture
and order and tradition
but then reality will show you
will contradict this right
so
it's and that's similar to anarchism anarchism
anarchists leftists and other leftists have some idea of
freedom
and some idea of a
true liberty whatever
with then reality comes and contradicts
both are right
and the anarchist and so on bread to blast
share in common
a vain
attempts to condemn reality instead of
learn from that contradiction
and i just
yeah i think just to push back a little on your trump example although i do think at the end of the day
we're going to see a tightening of the grip the sablishment currently has on the people
i do think
this is
and planting a seed
which later will grow in the future so essentially
you're going to have it becoming more apparent
that these that establishment in the control they hold
isn't in accordance to the interests of the people it isn't according to the will of the people
and with this becoming painfully apparent in the future
the establishment is going to continue
tightening its script because essentially
how the establishment works is that when they sense a threat
they immediately run to patch it up and
rinson repeat essentially so you have the set of warfare a tug of war you could say between these two factions
yeah so what trump is i don't
a lot of rapewingers especially
the the people coming from my side
of the spectrum
we don't view trump as this type of godson
we don't view trump as someone who's going to you know deliver us to the promise land his onlys at beginning of something i think i would somewhat of this way
to me
the way to beat the establishment
is you have to actually discern the essence of what makes them powerful
and
i don't see the right wing
succeeding in doing that to me the right wing
similar of course
to the
elements of the life
they merely oppose
everything about the establishment
but they don't
asked the question of where is its source
power and they don't tap into that power
as an alternative
well i wouldn't necessarily agree with that i think when you look at even the milk toast
conservatives your you know boomer moms your boomer fathers
these are the people who are
who do have a massive distrust of the current establishment
theref they don't even see the recent election as legitimate academia they have complete tos stand for for the so called experts correct very true so when you have these when i when i look at the whole phenomenon in the whole right wing movement
i see the conditions which woulduly harbor a successful antitablish you're right there is a widespread establishment sin
hundred percent right about
all i mean to say is that
what is lacking is a new
vision
a new order
which successfully
ah
discerns
the essence of what gives power to the establishment and poses itself as an alternative
i think we do see that i think
when it comes to the entire sight geist of
it's see america currently
it's obviously light andment era
metaphysics it's light inment rea thinking
and you do the f if you look at the more right wing
sphere of the conservative party
you do see essentially a rejection of that you do see a rejection of the rejection got carrian yeah you see a rejection of the got caryan precept
so witho that being said only rejection is my issue is that my point is that
it does not distill the essence of what gives it power
and sees that
for itself
success
at the same time i don't think it's only a rejection i think we're also creating something new
with that being said i think if you look at the more conservative side of the republican party
it's not simply a rejection we're also trying to
bring up the national consciousness to the degree we see a satisfactory
and with that having something created which is much more a
harmonious and nature
yeah
so i don't think it's necessarily just rejection the rejecting something but i know but to me i still think conservatives are caught in this dilemma
or right wingers i should say more generally
are caught in a dilemma
and
germany
rebellion
against
a
progressive
a status quo
words
i
and
it's a permanent
revolution
permanent rebellion
never actually leads
successfully to an alternative
and and
it's not just culture
you know
at some point
to me
we must ask
what is one's own
culpability in this reality one hates
mm
it's all connect
for example you probably agree with this but
the oil
lobby
which is i guess more republican
yeah
is connected to
wokeness and i
cancel culture and political
ight
all of these things
all this establishment is connect
oh yeah hundred percent agree
i just think im
yeah it's just my view my view is that the
the right
struggles
always uh
you know the meaning of right wing has changed across history
and the reason itll chang is because
after the french revolution
the type of people who are right wing
we're
the people we would consider liberals today
they were very much aristocratic
soft
type of snowflake
a soy boy
powdered grip wig
type of thing
and the left wing french revolutionaries were the deplorab
you see
but after in germany specifically the german in not the nazis but the german conservative revolution this movement
change the meaning i think
to right wing in the west forever
and made right wing something more
all right
popular
where it used to
belong to the elite
only the elite
views of the
i
but i think i
to the extent that it is truly popular
i'm not sure if it's truly right
wing
essence
there's a lot of confusion
yeah and
back to what you said quite a while ago where essentially you see this
pacification of
these the politically active
actor is correct
so i don't think he
the right wing also has a huge problem with this with for example as you brought up the
oil lobby
where they essentially
although
the
make the perception of themselves as being right wing and conservative
at the same time they compromise on these
social issues for example by being woke in the same sense as other
institutions and other corporations are well
you also see this being implemented throughout the political spectrum i would say where essentially you do have these corporations acting in their own own interest by marketing themselves
as political actors and agents of change
while
that that that doesn't necessarily have the desired effect
it has the effect of a centuraly
their consumers the people who buy their products
having the perception
of doing and creating change but at the same time
and nothing gets done obviously well so this we know for example that the right wing elites in
canada and america and elsewhere they're all
behind closed doors
yeah
so called
serce
value
but but
i think what i would say is that
to me the way
you take down the establishment is one requires what i call dialect
so we have
normal
i
order
some kind
then
there's a negation
and this comes from the progressives and the liberals
in the right wing yeah
and
there's some kind of negation
that they give expression
they rebel against
the normal
stat a school
culture or something else
and then the right
forms
by reacting to this
belly
but to me
the status quo is not challenged by the right wing
react
the status quo is only challenge
when
the true positive meaning of their negation
their rejection of the world
is discovered
and
quick
by the broad masses of the people in other words rendered superfl
you see so he so called left
rerains
not because it is progressive
but because
it
dwells in its negation of the world
but
when we have in what in call dialectics the negation of the negation
and the people discover
the true positive meaning of that negation and how it's actually reconciled in a deeper
order a deeper meaning and a deeper
universe or world
or polity or country or nation
this is where the
the so called left wing establishment always
h
trembled
they don't tremble
at the right wing reaction because the right wing reaction is not accounting for
the negation
to me the right wing reaction
only blames
a only blames
the bad guys
for the negation but they don't ask what about our objective reality
gives rise to contradiction of the negation
why is't that the
that
our reality gives birth to satanic force
yeah i think
what you're trying to
claim here is that essentially the right wing isn't
it's simply rejecting the idea and not providing an alternative which would galvanize the people and to not only that but it's not adequately accounting for
why the thing it
hates so much
arises in reality
so saying the
objective analysis of the current power structures is lacking
h i think not the power structure but
more
deeper relation to objective reality and its internal contradiction
mmhmm
can you unpack that for me a little bit
sure like youw to me i think right wing position
views reality as a
we as human beings want reality to make sense we want it to be
normal
objective true reality
right
then youll have the bad guys
the say tanic forces who come and reject
right
to me the right wing only
focuses on the old normal reality and
simply
and demonizes the say tanic enemy
as the cause
but they don't ask
what is it about our normal reality
that gives rise
to who we perceive
as
the demons
what about our reality gives rise to who we consider the enemy
so we must arrive at a stronger sense of
order
stronger sense
of what reality is
a normal meaningful reality
and we must arrive at a meaning
a sense of meaning that can account
four
why the people we perceive or the right wing perceives as evil
were able to arise in the first
mmhmm
well i think to answer that i think
the right wing analysis would essentially be that
it's primarily concerned with
preserve it's very self interested in a sense where it's interested in preserving against own identity
and wich you essentially have
a
caused the rebellion
of even your own people of your own collective to rebel against your own identity
as the sentury the
how how would i say it's essentially
the want
the denigration of what of what is perceived to be good in the first place
so a complete a re evaluation of values in a sense
which is leading to a detrimentalion is objectively speaking why has that demigration
have
mmhmm
yet have to are
this is a very high to garan ofview i think correct
and traditionally speaking when i've frid not high diggers necessarily but i think it's
it's related to a high degree ases can be but i think more he gelian view
were
mmhmm
because this is about igles aestheti
the unhappy consciousness
the meaning of reconciliation
reality so it's more g
so when you say objective m are you looking for like a material explanation there or what type of explanation would you why be expecting why is it that
the bad
according to the right wing view
the denigration of the good
why has this happened
what makes right is so certain that they will
present
forever
because di
in order to
heal the wound
so to speak
you must reconcile
but
to me i feel as though
right wingers one sidedly
reject
reject
an aspect of reality and deny it's part of the reality
as though you can simply get rid of it
and
the problem goes away
so
just just so i understand this a bit better within the marxist world view
what is the answer towards the
to that question when it comes to the bushi roaria a brilliant qestion
in the marxist view
at the proletaria it does not simply
in niholi
ah
capitalism or the ruling class
i mean uh
it doesn' inlate the establishment
so to speak
but it also reconciles
the source of that establishment's power
and reproduces it in a way for example
like i give an example
in the soviet union
only a tiny minority can appreciate art
can go to museums and
the soviet view is not to reject every aspect of the prior establishment but also to see what its source of power is
and
in the soviet way
culture was brought to the masses now the masses can go in museums in view
n i'm not saying all of the masses become like
buszoisie because there are things about the buszoisie
which disappeared
but
my point is that in marxism
the proletarian dictatorship
or communism whatever you want reconciles
the
be cause of the contradiction
that gives rise to itself
such that
the reason the blues was he is the enemy is not because
they
imposed a problem upon the world
but because in a sense
they are the ones who deny and are blind
to the fact
that the wound
has already been healed
high degree
wagner the german
composer whare the composer youa
one of his
in his operas
a passage reads
and the wound is healed by the spear which smote
and this is related to hagel's view of reconciliation
hegel said the point is to look
upon the rose on the cross
we know the cross represents what
catastrophe the tragedy
the fall
i
we i'm noting in theology but
o cross means there's a reconciliation already there
so for marxis
the enemy it's not that we're pessimists
it's that the enemy is pessimist
they cannot see
the positivity
the optimism we can see
mmhmm
so the source of power from the opposition is essentially
a source of pessimism
is that correct
the busgei he is the
the bitter and pessimist
yup
okay
well uh
relating to the point here at the reason i think the right wing does have
more potential to be truly anti establishment is
due to the cultural aspects to a larger degree i mean
obviously within your movement
you can't have these a
you can't have impotent individuals correct you can't have people who
hide behind institutions like you do in the left even within the dis wd for example we see this happening
and this attitude is being reflected
thoroughly throughout the left as a whole
so this idea of essentially
i think hierarchy is a huge think when it comes to successful movements
the top down structure
the best lead
the you know less capable follow i think it's not
but but
what you're saying sounds more like the
intitutionalized
because
it sounds like an attempt to institutionalize something that is not premised by
a definite higher
the thing about the strongest rising the top maybe it's true objectively but that doesn't mean we create rules that say you are lower and i am higher and
this is the problem is the formalization
oh i don't think i don't think this needs to be formalized i think
naturally speaking throughout history if you look even
you have people who are more extravagant who are more powerful
they're of more noble s apparing could say the stand up righty these are the people who traditionally the rise up to their ts but i don't think it will be formalized right but no assumption is made as to the essence
o
why that is
and what the meaning
w which is why
i
which is why of course it happens stalin rises as the leader of the soviet union
but
at no point does stalin say i am the leader because i'm better
he can't see
he would be fundamentally arrogant in betraying
the source of his own brilliance
the reason he's in power if you were to say suchrid
i
that yeah i agree with that but it's when we arrive
and a false sense of certainty as to the essence
of the so called
i
now
regarding this issue of the lefts culture institutionalized culture
i think the reason is though is that
institutions whitewash
delet
suppress
and distort the left
and
they get their power from this
it's the source of their power
what we a infrared are doing is we are cutting off
the supply
power from the establishment
i
now
these type of people you're speaking about
leftists who are incompetent so on
this is only true for the current
iteration of the
cia american left
but
in history it's not the case
in history of america it's not the
the left in america
was huge made huge inroads in places like
kansas
yeah in the past
the people's party
now of course the political spectrum is a little bit muddy
but they are vaguely associated with
what we would consider
but the left in a current iteration in america and in the west
is the result
of both deliberate and indirect i'm not completely paranoid
ah
type of ideological war
which stems from the cold
so it's also the cia has made it so that the left
we have the weak left that we do
and it's also for indirect reasons that
the establishment
came into being by co opting
the left
and whitewashing it
to neutralize
because it considers the left
the true threat
not necessarily the right
it considers the left
the real real threat
a and that's why of course
a real left is missing in america
we have every political tendency that has
asserted itself
accept a let
it seems like
what was vaguely represented by bernie in twenty fifteen twenty sixteen
that was just disappeared
and now with jimy dor and these people
they always be get they're always gas lighted it's almost like they always attempt to erase them look at what son soal
and those guys try to do it our channel they try to errase us and bury us
because they know
we are the true threat
people like infrared
it's we may not be out there as much but because they do their best
to erase us
because they know
when we get off the ground
there's no stopping
yeah i do agree with you in the sense that essentially
because of the establishment wanting to
self ser has served its own interest you do see a
slandering of your type of leftism
and by the way i just traditionally speak
by the way treasuress traditionally speaking all the interactions i've had with left wingers
be it online or in my campus
as
there were very bad interactions i'll just leave it at that
and sa say and for d and for what was and hold on
and infrared was one of the introductions which actually incentivized me to take a deeper dive
anti marxists literature
so i think
i' get i'm very glad to hear it you know i
you know it's not just that they slander us but
they deny we exist
they deny us alltogether
they accuse jimmy dore of being a nazi he's not you know he's not a nazi i know you know that
but they slander him as such
because they ca they refuse they want to deceive people and deny
that there is a real left
real
tternative
now the second thing you said
i
i'm one hundred percent in agreement i don't get along with any leftist in real
and almost never have
a
my experience are the same they're also bad experience
a but i'm so glad to hear
that
for us we have at least
spiked your curiosity in marx
you know
we just want to provide another alternative
and i
put forward something out there that people may not be familiar with
yeah and the reason i brought up hierarchy is essentially because
i do see
the requirement for
a movement to be truly successful to be self cultivating in the sense that
it can't have the
mentality of
the expanding of for example beauty standards
the expansion of these types of things because
all you're doing at that point is deluding yourself to a large degree or delude i think that that mostly stems from attempts to
control things that
just cannot be controlled
our intuitions as human beings
cannot be shaped voluntarily by activists it just can't
now does that mean they can never change
no
but the way that they will change will happen in a way
that we can't control
morally
examle
i
but
those excesses of the left you're speaking about
we infrared we rein in on those excesses
and we don't lean into the
we don't tolerate
we're going to all out bullshit as we see it you know we're not
i know there's a lot of bullshit that
but you have to understand when left ist
say things that are outrageous to basic
human
common sense
they're doing it on purpose because they love shocking people
and they get off by the edginess
and i know you may also have a similar experience with right winger's a lot of right wingers also like being at
to
but regardless we not
m
of that
background here in thd we don't like being edgy we want to have a plain faced
plain spoken
position
yeah i think it is time to get rid of the
irony and a type of uh
clown act that both sides of the political spectrum are presenting itself to put a more serious face on to show some teeth against the people who are truly in power
as it
when you present yourself as a clown you get treated as a clown quite simply
but it's
the reason why i think the
any type of real change would come from the right isn't ony
cultural it's also
economic and as time goes on we're starting to see a more
political
a institution being formulated by the more you know
anti establishment right
so economically speaking
obviously people who are truly working class
people who are you know who work as carpenters for a living
these people voted for republican types
and
when it comes to a
them voting for republicans they're not for the neo type new new conservative types
they're more for the trumpe is trumpet type apolitics obviously
and the i see tho a lot of potential in those individuals specifically
not the people who are operating you know oil companies but the lawyers i don't have any ho not it must be fairly evaluated
as to what happened with tral
mean a
they did vote for trump
and he didn't do the job
that he was
voted for as you're saying
so this must be fairly evaluated
why is it
i mean i have explanations i'm not asking for them but i
i just think
i think we need to look beyond the surface because i think the establishment thrives
from our superficial views of reality
when we just say
the anti establishment people are the right wing and the people in power are the left
superficially that does appear to be the case
but i think the truth is behind the surface
and this is to me what the establishment fears
mmhmm
and u
when i speak about the
political institutions of
when it comes to your point specifically of regarding trump
i do think that he was a failure politically speaking he didn't achieve what he
went out to achieve
do you think this was because of a type of dishonesty coming from trump and he was
a case of false consciousness or do you think
to was simply politically enough
i can't s speculate i just think it resulted inevitably from the fact
that
a
the right wing
i don't think can create
from scratch independent political power it always seems to rely on established institutions
not to give you the most worst example but in germany for example there would be no nazism without
ah the industrialis industrialists
and the military industrial complex
ah
in the case of truck
h
he relied on the not only republican establishment but
you know on the objective
class
social and institutional forces represented by the
because
of course the democrats came after trump so how could trump defend himself
can he create his own independent power
i don't think he would have been able
because i think if
you all i think if
trump wanted to create his own independent power
he would be so reliant on the people
that he would become left wing
because remember
you have to to an extent be socialist
or left wing of some kind
to trust the people instead of relying on established institutions
mmhmm
when it comes to a
trump essentially needing to appeal to the people
and utilizing the social and class institutions representing those people
i don't necessarily agree with your characterization because if you look up for example unions
there were necess like almost no unions who actually voted and endorsed
for trump but the people within those unions
the workers under those ining don't get it don't and don't misunderstand me i don't mean that all institutions supported trump i just mean that
trump couldn't create his own
institutions from scratch he didn't rely obviously on
union institutions
but he did rely on the institutional power of the republic
that's kind of where i'm
yeah well i think if you're going to see any type of change within
the ways the establishment operates
that change is going to have to come necessarily from the establishment itself because
these people have such a strong grip on every other aspect of society that you don't have any seeds yeh but i think this is our main point of disagreement
the
this is why we would probably define ourselves as left
for us
we believe
we
have belief in the people
we don't believe
has to happen at the side of the estb
we think the establishment can be brought down
and that's our wage
i would some
yeah i do think that is the fundamental disagreement there i don't see a possibility for like a
this nine hundred seventeen type revolution occurring i do see the only type of change
oc crank within the system itself and then you see't
think ahead that far to the revolution but
we think in terms of building something outside of
the established
as a real rival
to its power
independent
think that's how we would sum up
and
i think you see that occurring today in the right wing i think
when it comes to creating your own institutions and becoming less
dependent on the establishment
that is currently ongoing within the right wing because
let me just give you an example there is a
online personality who was completely banned off every major platform
he would then went on to create his own site literally his own site
who wehere he then shreamed right and
i think this is a
when i say institutions i don't mean all of them i know that right wingers are making their own
yes
online platu
but it's not getting around the dilemma
of the
fundamental material basis
political and
to
which is
how is money ma
all these kinds
and i don't think the rights can make that from schools
and i haven't seen an example
same
well the sam the same individual i' was talking about
he made his own conference where like five hundred people attended
and he had two congressmen
come into the conference and give a speech
and i think that's massive for a pre for a person of his
type of this common guy right who started shreaming andgainst followingb
but
that still doesn't tell us about how reliant all of them in that conference and those congressmen are going to be
on the entrenched
entrenched
ruling classes
factions of the entrenched ruling classes
and i
the real material basis of american establishment of course they can have con
they can invite congressmen to endorse
but this is not an indication
independent
institutional
mmhmm
it's merely for example
i don't want to slander with the whole nazi thing but it's like the most extreme right wing
right yeah
i'm fine with but we'm not allertic to historical examples sure so with in germany
that what the nazis were doing was not creating their own
independent people's power but they were
lobbying
to the ruling classes in germany and basically saying
hey give us money and we'll represent you better than
you know
these people in power
current
will uphold your institutions and establishment better than the ones who are doing it
correct
re
i
and
that appears to be the same thing that i'm seeing with
what you're talk
not i'm not saying they're the same as nazis but
it's the similar relation to the
mmhmm
established
so you don't see the the
the establishment of the national socialist party as a type of revolution in itself you see that as a wellcation of the ruling cross and the establishment of the toimue
it
relied
upon the support
and thisitual
english and american elites
and
inner inner very high up elit
i mean like
yeah
the ones you don't see in public
yeah i'm familiar with the su and you
and the german industrialists specifically and the military industrial complex
the nazis never revamped
the german estabh
they did add a layer of ornamentation
top
umhum
well i think i would disagree with the characterization the historical perspective because
when i look at the state established from thirty three to forty five
in germany i see that as a complete
revap of the world ofview even oth the people the complete consciousness of that he was a call i don't see that as a continuation of what was previously there but it was only an ornamental
and cultural
superficial change
didn't actually change
the the military industrial complex and the german industrialists
who were in power it didn't
for example replace those people with
ordinary german
common people
sic
f d r was almost more revolution
because f d r brought people from texas
fif
and he replaced these old guys
and brought in new blood from
people and
the businessman's plot
that you are you familiar with that
i'm vaguely familiar with f theus smedley butler exposed the businessman's plot which involved people names like prescott bush
who wanted to raise
an army
of of
soldiers
the veterans
to overthrow fdr
and on the model of italy and germany
it was entirely concocted by the american elites
because they were scared of f d rs
mm
popular
apeal and his
his
shaking up
minor shaking up of the american
that
when i look at the power dynamic between them
people within the for example of
of the people who were producing the arnaments for war during
nazi germany for example
i don't necessarily see a problem with
having those same people in power of and in charge of their corporations i want not
as long as they are utilizing their power now for social aims and
and aims of and hopes of cultivating a future was which is in accordance but in accordance with the state interest those i don't know si we see that is about them but those aims were already established as anti social aims even before the nazi
the nazis merely called them so
those aims of rearmament and mobilization of war against the soviet union
those interests were established
long before anybody knew who hit
so all the nazis did was fulfill those late
in
i think
i think that's like our point of irreconcilable difference i don't think we'll agree on the historical perspective there
because when i look at the dynamic as i say
it's it was completely revamped on hitler at the end of the day had
the ability to do whatever he wanted with those corporations he was not dependent on the manu any longer
so if you're utilizing these corporations as a stepping stone
to increase your own influence i see no problem with that it's coming from anybody no point did hitler
fundamentally diverge
from the interests that brought him power in
in the first
he carried out
that
their aim
the reason why they brought him to power he carried out
he was never able to have the power to
now i would tell you what an example of rejecting
that would be
if hitler was truly independent what he would have done is he would have said we're not going to invade anybody we're just going to focus on developing germany and developing the german people
and we're not going to go to we're not going to be a tool
to invade the so weet union and destroy the soviet union we're going to focus on ourselves
yup
but he i i didn't have the power to
mmhm
because i
there
the
it was even true in the war itself
in the war itself
the german military
and the nazi party were not
completely unified
so hitler didn't have
power to do whatever you want
he was still beholden to the interests
in actual reality
grounded his power
mmhmm
well i think
that we exhausted the conversation because
we just have a disagreement on the historical perspective of things so ok
allrt it was nice to have you on carble
and nice talking to you ma
take care
all right
ho was a bit longer than i expected but it's fine
think we're definitely going to play a loose
itul'd certain
i already did the tough stuff
i already did the hard stuff
and now we can have guilt free
enjoyment
soyface
my life is like a video game i'm just
let's play living guys
let's continue the dark brotherhood
my life is like a video game trying hard to make a pain
all why i am still collecting coins
what music should i play rund
you guys think i'm soft because the music i play
because you're under estimate
i't think i'm sorry
because i played beautiful mus
people who only listen to edgy loud music
there're sow
trying hard to save the girl
all while i am still collecting coins
m
thank
because i had to
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fox spotify
joining on oblivion right now
we're going to play
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get the show on the road
i'm going to piss i'll be right there
you areight back on a piss
like the video game
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going
exactly
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buck and losers
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only the base people stay
my life is like a video game
trying hard to play the game
cockey duty
cocky spoken gone from twitter
came and cocked
can't even contact him
he disappeared
i have dark sols
is it downloaded
no it's not
where is it
no it's not
dam i do have dark sols
cocky is always welcome
all he does that uss the message me i'll bring him on whenever
minges is a fucking
dog brotherhood assassin now we have to go kill rufieo
ight
i was my hands
burby
as soon as i didn't wash my hands everyone is going to beleep
yap everyone left
when i was young it seemed that life was so beautiful
and wonderful
oh bebyly wonderful
i'm pressing f to sheet and i nnew you know the button to shee
to look for the fucking keyboard
options
controls
the part
i need to know how to sheave
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right
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that's why
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by
ok we got a dagger from roufel
we're now in a place called hacker
we have to figure out the mystery of hacker
ok
the fuck happened where's that guy
come on load
them guy's dijsd it's in my fucking
corner
and knowor you can' even see am
hey lady come back
well
the book shouldn't be in here stranger
you're not welcome
sorry
on talk to if you're not careful the brethren will have to teach you a lesson
the who
you'd be better off not asking
such questions know
debate now debate me
we don't look kindly on strangers asking questions if you need a room try
i worre can i give some answ numbers because they don't want to talk to me go on
yout anything to say
don't push your luck stranger plenty of folks have turned up dead after asking questions like that
are you arab
yeah
go bother someone
make it quick
non phoenician
no
one day you'll find out who the brethren are and you'll be sob was not even be outsiders came and burned our town years ago
ok
just leave
i
do they have any books i can read
bible of the deep one
i'm waiting
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with scraat by
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sign in the presence of twelve witnesses
with the
some satanic shit going on
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sca
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but i want to know what's going on in hacker
because this is a strange and mysterious town
looks like i got a
break into someone's house
the
mm
let's let's investigate
investigate
with
buck is this
mmhmm
you're not
and i just start killing people
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enough
oh i forgot i'm fucking mingus
all right
rate
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parking don't have a lah
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can you go on the well
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when i was young you seem so should i have made like a nice looking guy because i don't want to talk in his voice all the time
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i need a fourteen k
trap door we found one
where we find the key
somebody knows something
i'm the key guys
number one m
sorry
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right
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needs to die
bye bye
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like holy shit
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what does
right
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goupstairs
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on ful oh ma
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do it and then proceed to bring him in i was lying fellow traveler was made fun my accids ok he sounds like a fucking uptight cock rather sound like how i do life was so wonderful
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time out
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ya okay
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ask the man i think
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all right we're done
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fuking as whole
i'm taking your net
so just because i was some doing some ofpar bad
our guys dinner time
dinner time
i'ming to quickly
understand
quickly have some dinner
no not wings
am i supposed to be impressed
this is the part
where you go down and belieed to death
when i was young it seemed y life was so wonderful
you guys want some
youre
have some
being
you know what being
and i'm going to say
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what's it like
speak arabic now
salamu alakum
sam w lakem
here's the thing
i'm waiting for sunsaul to make lies
because he wants me to post the stream he doesn't have one of his own
where he might
but he wants to lie about what happened in his video
so i' waiting in for him to do that
so i can immediately smash him with the truth
you know
so i'm just waiting for them to make a lie
because he thedy've lied before their liars
i'm going to literally expose him in front of his own audience and not even they can deny
i sdn't have time to cook tonight
mork being a some more time
ok
allright i'm going to wash my hands
in the question continues
us
you see how i wash my hands
think i like those other streamers and wash their hands when they eat
and they get their keyboard sticky and disgusting
but that's who you think i am right
but
were by debating joel about
i don't flot a all
damn dude i don't know
he wanted to debate me so he the burden of proof is on him
a i'm saying
right
quest continues
oh
ok what's going on here
the're they're imprisoning people
is that illegal oh what do you want
make it quick
brethren
why do you hate me stop talking enough
you're not well
so you're not going to deny your si
mikey
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oh it's the tunnels connects to the whole town
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gold
baby they were golden baby the were gold you got the devil in your
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plaase modify that
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one
we
made for you i sh is that a playlist
ready at hand
but i don't
release radar
come on live call to say on the way over see me try to turn my gaze any other way all this time i dance a field
all right gonna play this song i want py this song
i'm choosing songs guy
give me by jan
yah
repeat rewind
what's this
all the butterflies
sa comm gd day commerc because shows don't have work keep
can't stop raving guys
can't stop breathing i can't stop breathing
hey we got some new
what a i missing
you're i think i think i boved the question that's fars sound by killing you someone sai me
a re a lot of them today
just uploaded it some called ending infrareds career
but you know what he's not even getting my attention because i already addresseds retarded
video
leftism today just released a video about us
well on let's watch
should we watch it
let's see
retard
up of water
k guys
i knew it was going to work
volume one
this is a copy that i bought back in two thousand and thirteen at a thrift store
and uh it's pretty beat up as you can see
of march of course we all know did not deal with the
who'se
did anyone sent me the link
to
the stream
because someone saved our stream
so the debate so we're going to upload the debate
can someone send it to me
ween i'm trying to get the properties to work so itill capture microsoft
think i have to refresh
capital volume one this is a copy that i
me
i bought back in two thousand and thirteen at a thrift store
i know you can't see it i'm trying to get you gu s to see it
manual
here we are
ok
and it's pretty beat up guys fifteen points
just to show you guys the
how antianglo marx actually was ok let's go ahead and open up the book i know it's a book it's scary most of you guys a
you know if it's not a
ten people like this
ten people like this through that fucking stupid
they're that fucking stupid ten people like this
ten fulking people like this dumb falking video
ten fucking people like
a seven hour twitch stream that you can watch
in between
your fortnight sessions
then you're not going to consume it i know but let's go through ok first of all we have the first one
ok the usefulness of a thing makes it its use value so obviously marks a
not
we literally already discussed
all of this on stream
and you removed the video
because you were demolished
sad
a practicing the angle definitions whatsoever
exchange value appears first of all as a quantit
like we literally talked about
like literally
you try to bring up
how marx
defines
things in capital
and we're bet a full
how you do this pathetic
stupid dich
of relation the proportion in which use values of one kind exchange for another kind
obviously he didn't mean anything by that let's ignore the no he didn't he didn't give an axiomatic type of
he was clarifying the word he was using
but he wasn't giving some kind of fucking
definition in your sense what how we discussed it onstream
nw fucking idiot and that holds true for every day everything else you're going to find here because everything marks
clarifies in terms of how he uses words
he's only doing so within a definite context in which those words or the concepts corresponding them are actually being developed
he doesn't actually create a vacuum of what
fucking use value is but do examples of use value in exchange value shit
you even admitted ore special cases because he invented those words
oka
we you and i yet leftism today
you little bits
we were talking about value and you conceded to me on the point
that marx couldn't give a definition of value in the way you're talking about whatsoever
he could clarify this
the only reason marx talks about use value is because he's dis distinguishing it from
exchange value
but the only fucking definition of use value
serves to distinguish it from exchange value
he's not giving a positive independent definition
you dumb fucking idiot
and none of the definitions marx gives in capital
are from nowhere exx neithlo they're all within a definite contact
context
which involves the dialectic and active development
of those concepts
throughout the whole project and throughout the w fucking work
do i'm so sick of clarifying this shit yet don't even respond to him
he's such a fucking idiot
do are you guys really impressed by this video just tell me
do you think
he's making a point in this video that i should respond
i just want to know how stupid people are is
please tell me like should i respond to this
or do you guys just realize it's retarded
like you guys realize it's retarded right
we're not
like is there do you do you
think there's literally any point he's making right now
i'm just curious
no
ok there's not even one yes right no one actually is impressed by this video
stupid bitch
ending infrared's career
ca c of my career in
because
duper
but
stupid bitch
to
fox
i literally blew the fulk out of your videw earlier in the stream
watch the beginning of the stream leftism today and i fulked you up
already before you uploaded this i fulked you up
by the way by the way guys
tonight's stream which is on
now
where someone told
is a
lefty pole pos
he was already
utterly destroyed
beyond reasonable doubt is video
doesn't end anything
it was already responded to in the beginning
of my street
the city
nice try though idiot
no more free clouds
capital volume one
this is a copy that i bought back in two
capital volume
i want an overwhelming dislike ratio for this video
then we can go back to oblivion
overwhelming dislike
you could just watch it and reassert its me
but we were
i already fucking did that colonel autism i ready fucking did that
like this is eleven minutes long and i a ready
addressed everything in it
to complete the article however the labor forms
thats wo we get it he describes the meaning of concepts and gives names to those concepts it's a fucking straw man to begin with
it's a fucking straw man to begin with the examples you were trying to bring up
like the goza program i clarified it in our debate
you fucking bitch you're shifting the goalpost now and you're creating a straw man the debate between you and me left is on bitch
wasn't falking about
whether marks
clarifies or makes his concepts intelligible
it's about the manner of expression unique to marx
which you weren't appreciating
you tried to make it seem like marx gave
definitions as in
said a word and said this is the sentence but that's not what mark is doing by your own admission
he's developing concepts and sometimes attaching
those concepts to words
but he's not first giving a word and saying this is the essence of that word
as it holds for every possible context in every situation
that is not the manner of expression you need to mark
marx does not begin
by saying this is
the reducing the meaning of a word
to a fucking anglo box it's just not the matner of his expression
and i literally explained that so thoroughly
that at this point you're not doing this honestly
you're just doing it for fucking cloud
you're just doing this you coping beitch
because you want to tension
because i literally already fugk your argument over
over and over again regarding this point
i can't believe anybody
anybody
actually takes this seriously
capital volume one
this is a copy of
this is not of dislikes honestly it's not of dislikes
not enough dislikes whatsoever
not enough dislikes whatsoever
not enough dislikes whatsoever guys
go fucking just like
remember what i told you the beginning of stream this dumb bitch
he literally spent eleven minutes doing what i predicted
he would
and il ready fucking addressed it it's a fucking straw man to begin with
you don't fall
every focking time he's tried to fok and face me
he's fell flat on his fucking face
like a squirming bitch
cab of water
stupid bitch
stu
fox
capital volume one
this is a cop
yeah he just needed those extra views we gave them to him
so that's that
going back to blue
four days
ye know while only twenty nine are there people here who are stupid or something and we don't need one hundred just like how does it not have a hundred so fucky student i just need to know like is the audience impressed by like is
the are actually people out there who watch that video and are like yeah this is really convincing in this is really infrared blind spot they totally can't address this and they totally got on the fok so self evidence here we prove justr wrong like is there a single person among who actually thinks that
oh we found something
checke your commread we need to figure out what's been going on because we have a cage anything corve
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whever has that leftism debate vega
sit to p same on do sit down to fm s miha s you to mesh in
you want some nerse i should yeah what you
c there's nothing here after i'm leaving after i'm going to go ft this cave i've little been wandering this case for two hours for two hours i wandering so avail there's nothing here it's a wich place leave leaving this cave
re keep crying buddy that's why ce p say have all disassociated with you i don't pokle what does it have to do with the substantive argument i had
what does it have do with the substanceive argument that that he got fucking blown the fock out on like even if all those people did thisassociate with me which i don't really care about by the way bok p c usa let me tell you something about p c usa since they want to talk shit about me p c usa are such schills
that they d med me the phone number of one of their top guys who wanted to shill for his ugly stupid chity party using my channel and i didn't call him still because fukhim yeah i know fellow travelers in p c usa to fuk p c usa i don't talk about them they need me more than i fuk and would ever need them they need me where way more than i'd never fucking ned and they want to talk shit about me
go ahead buddy i already said your fucking party sucks it's a stupid ugly name and a shitty brand but do i give a fuck about the p c usa those are relevant foks i why give a fuck about them since when do i give a shit about the fucking p c us going to go kill ru fiel going to go do it
are you kidding i care about the p c usa they tell the cock soccer leftism today no matter how hard tries he will always be known from here on out is this little cloud chasing b tried to put a knife my falking back and beg on his knees to me for forgiveness every single time he was confronted like a man but he
runs like a pussy in the shadows like a snake trying to fucking avoid confrontation beus he's a bit i fugk him up in public and then he runs in the shadows and does another thing the safety of his own position that little pussy has never said one word one aggressive thing to me not one when i spoke to him he didn't say one aggressive or hosi
stule thin and you didn't even have the fuking courage he didn't even have the fulking courage to disagree with me let alone disrespect me like how he does from the safety of his fucking keyboard was see i just address too many people i need to start ioring you know they want to tension they
think i'm going to address them what have they done in the past decade bitch and wine about the c pus that's all
whatk the he is a coward i bet on left people everyone thinks he's so smart literally i swear to god on left people everyone's like oh my god leftism today he finally stood up to ig he did what we all wanted im to do
bunch of peaches that's why we' fucking disavowed and disassociated because that's where he's from right let bch of retards on that website actually think he was saying something soan i haven't downloaded the debate
joey send it to me because i want to upload it on infrared channel i want to upload that debate i want to upload that please joey in the discord send it to me please you hear me to send it the discord i'm going to upload it as soon as possible yeah just like i left left peole it's time to leave the wrker
shit another rat oh there was a wo guys were killing dogs
just like you said i've used dogs and now it's actually hapened instead of being made someone kews go be like what you use dogs bk stage his friend started making up that i dog as a friend oh a friend will send it ok appreciate it i thank you doreciate it so much
leaving left that best decision i made i agree i agree i agree it was a good desion
what is left you don't worry not the folt just happened on my torch
i'm so excited sunday guys and i'm so nervous because i know there's going to be things i'm going to forget that i want to talk about with cab i gota write
it down the's like a lot i want to talk tom about and just like cover you know i'm so excited the came infrared alliance will begin but yeah
politically cam mops the closest to infrared politics in the usa if not identical if not identical like i have yet to see a single concrete position that we disagree about
o it's a rad and we found leftism today yeah dude it's going to be a popular front against bread you guys know how old caleb is
how old is he
yh jimmy infrareding cable hopefully infrared connect can be part of the you know we're still the juniors we're still the little guy but we want to like create a tral but we still kind of have to prove ourselves you know weve got a
were just as viable as jimmy and cable
caleb's got a ton of experience in media he knows what we're doing in a way that we don't he knows what he's doing in a way that we don't and jimmy's super successful so five thirt do notice the difference between cabb and he's thret people they're pretty much the same age night and day
fucking bread f people are just these generate disgusting man children you know and they like make fun of cab because why fuking loks like a doll you know like honestly when you're thirty two or thirty five you should look and talk like you know
how could they funk make fun of the is we're supposed to be down the road et they make fun of cabb meanwhile folking wash and all them the same age
except the thing that they're doing is that they're foking what they're doing is that they're praying on foking fifteen year old girls ditort you know what is this
that she don't
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in one hour he came back oh shit oh i think i need intelligence
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i can see dark sools done i'm not downloading it now maybe next time i have dark soools you guys want to play dark soools or oliion
hat to get downor but you'll never get read you lever your main so as with here i know being i know we're lowering the barrier to jury eventually
we're going to lower that barrier to entry
all this tos better story but dark souls way
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et who was this why attack me the fuck is this don't attack me my friend who was that the fuck was
conju random shit like that just either i just beat blood born i'd love to play on screen i don't know how to play book on i don't how to connect my fice
otherwise it would easi i think that pice was broken or you id is broken i need to get a pice i either a ps bive i don't you cans
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yeah i don't stop talking
i to the general that mass suicide will happen on infrared
he say why do we always say we're like you guys actually think i control people that much but look at our discord how can we be a call look at our fucking discord we have no control
if we were a call how come our discord the while we s i don't know you and i don't care to know you
where's the general store that what
march riightter airblock right the march rightjus i offer the finest goods and lowest prices in all civis have any lot good bye
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and this is a booksto oh it is genteral store or about what can i interest you in a lok
there are no lot
ok thanks for noting leave me alone fuck leave me alone for where is the japstick
reging your basement sealers
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crazy story did anyone save the street
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listen some chill shit
we naed some lopsticks
can i stop with this
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i lock the bouncer of the storage room and she has the owner so that leaves you now i'll ask again
there's no one else in our group except the four of us the blackwater brigands don't just take on new members out of the clear blue sky when we formed the brigands three months ago i was told no more than a four way slit on all the prophet so stop telling lies that perhaps my sord
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and he has a sword i think i want leather andsteaf actually he has a sword
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thank you for freeing me i don't know exactly if you good luck you need it tiny lot i'll wait here
good luck you need it ho the only way you're getting off this
i don't play this game now one there's two more i gota kill
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lynch and maink well since they're out of the way if i kill you that means selina and i split the take
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get in here it's back away coud no one in this i suppose you think you no one again you are supprised you used to been hiding down there and made your way up here please
accept my surrender here's my play please no treasure is worth this is likes what wait what did i learn from s sons what's his face but what did i learn from fok what did i learn from folk in
isn ino this is a moment when you fall down on
s surrendered and gave me but bptism today talking you don't forgive people
oh thank goodness well at what
please go'll get some rest dostairs any things
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go a way ok give me seventy five gold diits oh all that stuff i can have a house
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