BREAKING: Mikhail Gorbachev is Dead

2022-08-30
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hey pizza hut
hey comrades hehe pizza hut huh gorby
hakeem meme shut the fuck up what is
this fucking hot teams chad shut the
fuck up fucking cringing the fuck out of
me
he
pizza huh shut the fuck up man the fuck
is this hakeem
i'm gonna i'm gonna
go off on this shit because
the reactions to gorbachev's death
it's
pathetic
fucking pathetic i'm gonna explain
exactly why
i'm gonna explain exactly why but i
don't wanna fucking see this dumb oh
seven
thank you mecca i don't want to see this
fucking dumb
band kid humor
in my fucking chat
virtue signaling to your fellow comrades
oh we hate gorbachev we hate gorbachev
we haven't even gotten to the bottom of
how gorbachev even came into existence
and we're pretty much the legacy of
gorbachev's revisionism but comrades we
hate gorbachev because he destroyed the
soviet union we like the soviet union
we're not even going to investigate why
gorbachev even came into existence even
though we're symptoms of that same thing
that made garbage out shut the fuck up
you're fucking cringe okay
i'm not celebrating i'm not celebrating
this shit because he didn't die
first thing i want to tell you guys is
that mikhail gorbachev is not dead so i
don't know why the fuck people are
celebrating like he's dead yeah we got
him no you didn't get shit
you didn't get shit the international
left
is still dominated by the fucking people
that corresponded to his
manage the dissolution of the soviet
union
if you're a revisionist why are you
bitching about gorbachev you're just a
fucking hypocrite
like imagine being a fucking hakeem
viewer and then celebrating gorbachev's
death
you are gorbachev what are you fucking
celebrating that's literally what you
are you dumb fuck
we're gonna talk about this but i keep
i've seen all these people on twitter
celebrating gorbachev's death yeah i'm
fine but you are gorbachev it's
literally you you are gorbachev
you know that you realize that gorbachev
chose the path he did
because the alternative would have been
something that he and you would have
considered fashion them
because they thought maoism was fascism
they thought china was fascist
everything's fascist right so gorbachev
had two options
make the soviet union more progressive
and make it more democratic and
progressive or have a fascist revolution
according to the views of the
international left because again the
soviet revision is called every
revolutionary impulse that was outside
of their fucking bureaucratic bullshit
revisionist
international uh network fascist
pathetic
absolutely pathetic
if you are an american leftist and
you're celebrating gorbachev's death
you have zero self-awareness you are
gorbachev that is what you are
okay we don't have anything to celebrate
our enemies are still in power gorbachev
is still what defines the meaning of the
word communism not just in america but
in the entire western world and in a lot
way more well you know
way more countries than you would think
actually
way more countries than you would think
are defined by gorbachev's legacy even
third world communist parties are shitty
like what is that what's the communist
party in india that's just a shit lib
party
it's gorbachev he's still in power
i have no fucking idea why people are
celebrating
i have no idea at all
he's not dead
he's not dead
also why did the soviet union collapse
does anyone know is it because of
gorbachev
or maybe it's because the soviet union
had to collapse
maybe it's because
the prevailing orthodoxy of marxism
leninism that prevailed in the soviet
union was fucking bankrupt
you guys are not ready for this
conversation i don't really think you
are i don't really think you're ready
for the conversation about how
so mao said that stalin was 70 right and
30
wrong
that thirty percent is what made
gorbachev possible
that thirty percent is the reason why
gorbachev eventually came into power
no one's ready for that conversation
though no one's ready for the
conversation of there's no one you can
really blame
for the collapse of the soviet union
there's no one figure you can blame
the only thing you can blame is western
social democracy and it's disgusting
despicable legacy because the 30 that
stalin got wrong
according to mao
that 30 actually is the leftover from
the second international orthodox
marxism
everything got fucked up in the second
international
and also
because i want to educate you guys
the origin of social democracy
from the second international so let me
explain to you
karl marx and frederick engels
they were part of the first
international working men's association
and marx and engels
belong to a period of history called
classical marxism the history of marxism
very dialectical they had a lot of
freedom in terms of like
the dynamism of the application of their
views
marx would support the russian narodnik
movement he would talk about
developments in the colonized world and
so they were very much dynamic they had
a very dynamic understanding of the
world marx and engels okay
marx dies
engels is kind of retiring
publishing marx works he's kind of
retiring then the second international
emerges
the second international
institutionalizes marxism it
institutionalizes marxism
in a period it's called social democracy
the first incarnation of social
democracy it's the institutionalization
of marxism it's making an orthodoxy of
marxism okay
and that's where the bolsheviks came
from the russian social democratic labor
party okay
then lenin comes along
and
lenin goes and he studies hegel
he tries to rediscover the classical
marxism he discovers hegel
and then lenin breaks out of the mould
of orthodox marxism
and
he
you know
he gives rise to what is known as
marxism leninism as we know it so he
smashes the social democratic dogma and
he returns back to a more original and
essential marx
okay
but the bolshevik party which is the
party he was part of
still had a lot of leftover dogmas
from orthodox marxism from social
democracy they didn't fully purge out
that second international from their
party
so stalin
as great as stalin was probably one of
the greatest people to ever exist if you
ask me
he's up there with profits right
but
even stalin carried the baggage
you could argue
maybe not in terms of his theories but
in terms of the things he took for
granted as far as his world view
in terms of the practical
implementation of policies and the rest
allen probably took some things for
granted that were remnants of
orthodox marxism and mao critiques him
for that 30 he's 70 right 30 wrong
according to mao
because of that 30
legacy of social democracy
so mao continues the legacy of social
mao continues the legacy of marxism
leninism
because bear with me there's three
internationals one the that's as far as
marxism is concerned that's classical
marxism
two that's orthodox marxism the second
international three that's the marxist
leninist communist international okay
what is that three all about is marxism
leninism a qualitative break from the
orthodox marxism or is it just a
continuation that's the debate
so stalin dies and khrushchev doubles
down no it's just a continuation it's
not a break it's just a continuation
all the dogmas
are kept in place
okay
then gorbachev comes to power and
gorbachev throws in the fucking towel he
goes yeah this whole marxism leninism
thing
we kind of made a big mistake we're
going to go back to social democracy
we're going to emulate the swedish
scandinavian social democrat
revisionists who took power
and you know the whole leninism thing
was a big mistake we're just going to
become like the swedish social democrats
and that was the path the soviet union
was already destined for after the death
of stalin
that was already the path it was taking
it was taking a path of following in the
footsteps of the socialist international
and international social democracy
allied with the non-aligned movement
which is headquartered in india at the
time okay
so you have to understand gorbachev is
not some evil man who came along and
fucked things up he was a continuation
of the post stalin
soviet orientation which was away from
leninism and toward social democratic
revisionism
so i cannot stress enough how fucking
stupid it is for all of these social
democrat revisionist pieces of shit like
hakeem and all of their communities
and by the way i don't even consider
them human beings so i'm not talking to
that about them as like human subjects
i genuinely could watch those people
with my own eyes i could watch them
have a bad day and i would feel nothing
and haas means what he means they are
not human to me
i fucking hate those people
i hate all leftists
but it's even more ironic that they're
going to come out
and they're going to do the pizza hut
names and corporate top
you are gorbachev you fucking bitch that
is you
the pizza hut meme is fucking stupid by
the way
no gorbachev didn't sell out the soviet
union for pizza hut
the soviet union sold out
as of khrushchev
gorbachev didn't sell out for western
consumerism
and i was going to write a sub stack
about this but
you don't even know what you're talking
about this is the most vapid form of
anti-capitalism where you take some
major brand and you're like that's
capitalism that's what it is no that's
not actually what capitalism is a
fucking pizza hut brand is not the
essence of commodity production a pizza
hut brand is a fucking
a pizza hut brand it belongs to the
delusion society of control
not the society of discipline in the
factory okay the pizza hut is not about
these tangible commodities being sold
it's a fucking brand that coheres the
entire logistical chain of production
and gives it purpose
and meaning according to psychological
factors
of libidinal
um
investment and the libidinal economy so
just don't fucking it's so fucking vapid
late capitalism moment oh we're just
having mcdonald's and pizza hut that's
what capitalism is no it's fucking not
capitalism was some fucking fat guy who
owned a factory with a top hat and he
squeezed out profit from his fucking
workers who were on the mills or they
were fucking you know on the assembly
line even or something that was
capitalism okay the the all these brands
and consumerism that's not capitalism
i'm sorry it's just not
you have an extremely vapid vaped
sense uh an understanding of the world
which is more based on your own punk
rock hipsterism than in any kind of
proletarian you know
class struggle position you don't even
understand what the fuck you're talking
about
the pizza hut thing is fucking stupid i
don't find it funny at all
and it's so it's such the most cringe
form of band kid humor
i cringe every time i see it
it's the most hakeem
meme in the fucking world
it's so it's like freaking
this is like oh this is like twitter
moment twitter moment
gorbachev is in a pizza hut commercial
twitter moment
twitter moment
we're gonna we're gonna i'm gonna make a
tweet twitter moment it's gonna likes
what a silly capitalist society we live
in
late capitalism it's so ironic and it's
so silly
fucking cocksucker
i want to know what i find silly you
want to know what i find funny
imagine you're playing gary's mod
and there's leftist characters in gary's
mod and they all burn alive to death
funny meme
that's what i find funny
see it's funny see watch me laugh
it's a really funny joke for me
it's definitely something that's just a
joke to me
see i'm laughing can you see me laughing
that's what i think about leftists
that's what i think about them
guys
guys
i'm like part of the internet the online
left
i'm gonna like do pizza hut memes
you know there's literally people who
vote for aoc
who are on twitter and they literally
vote for alexandria ocasio-cortez
and they're posting the gorbachev memes
i shit you not
there's people on fucking
online
who actually
voted for joe biden
even
who are posting the gorbachev memes and
they're talking about how gorbachev
ah garbage have died
pizza hut moment
i'm saying this is someone who hates
gorba who hated gorbachev i gorbachev
was a symbol of my hatred i fucking
hated him but this is not a victory we
didn't win anything he's still in power
his legacy still lives on
and
the reason i'm the reason i'm taking
this stance is because all the people
who are celebrating this
represent the worst aspects
they represent his legacy
so make that make sense to me make it
make sense how the people who are
celebrating the death of gorbachev the
most
on the american left
represent his legacy the most so just
explain that to me and what is that
legacy well the legacy of gorbachev was
this
with the
reign of gorbachev
um
revisionist communism was definitively
definitively aligned
with the globalist
liberal agenda
so the globalist progressive liberal
agenda
and communism were married under
gorbachev it's because of gorbachev that
communists became fans of the lgbt
movement and became fans of all the woke
bullshit and the whole angela davis
committee
remember the davis
and we're here for the committees of
correspondence
it's me angela davis
um
was tutored by herbert marcuse who was
funded by the ford foundation
and here's angela davis who was funded
by the cia
it's me angela davies and i'm here to
make the life that's more progressive
and more feminine
shut the fuck up with your fucking left
wing shove it up your fucking ass blow
it out your fucking ass
and i'm praising mikael gorbachev
turning it into a democratic socialism
thank you man a lot of explaining to do
you know be funny if there was a game
mode in gary's mod
uh
where there was all social democratic
socialist
like um factions in an rp mode in gary's
mod and there's a democratic socialist
faction and every single democratic
socialist
was hung
and burned in a pit
alive
and it's like an excruciating agonizing
video game
like and you're playing the rp mode you
everyone's just get get there's just a
big pit
and every democratic socialist in gary's
mod is thrown into the pit
and everyone watches as it burns and and
they're shrieking in agony and agonizing
pain
and they're like they're like skin is in
the game gary's mod like an unreal
engine 5 version it's so detailed you
can see their skin burning off and all
that kind of shit
then we can talk about gorbachev right
but i'm seeing too many democratic
socialists and leftists in general
celebrating this
as if
they aren't the same thing as gorbachev
orbital is dead
and i also have to remind people
you don't claim this as a w
unless gorbachev's legacy also dies
if just some fucking sick old man dies
and you're celebrating that
i'm just seeing that as the sadism of
the left
you're not even dealing with his legacy
at all you're not even confronting his
legs you're not even attacking his
legacy you're just celebrating
yourselves at the expense of some dead
old man and i do i give a shit about
gorbachev i don't i don't give a fuck
about him but at the same time
it's like it's like what do we win we
didn't win anything nothing was won
nothing was accomplished
nothing was accomplished
now on the other hand
i might silently celebrate
if something happened
to american leftists
because that's here and now that would
actually mean something
not doing it as left i do it as a
russian
i can understand that
don't get me wrong i fucking hated
gorbachev he was the symbol of my hatred
i fucking hated him
but you have to understand my
frustration that i'm here in america
with the same fucking people
gorbachev was a globalist he united
communism with globalism
and the progressive international left
and the and you know the progressive
agenda of the globalists including the
lgbt agenda so the reason we have the
left in america today
is in part because of the legacy of
gorbachev but then i see those same
fucking people celebrate this
and it almost seems like they're trying
to like repress their own past
i just want to tell these people you are
gorbachev if you're an american leftist
you are
off
see gorbachev is a dead old man i don't
give a fuck about him these people are
still alive and they're still at large
and they're coming for you and your
family
i think that's a big fucking difference
i think that's a big big fucking
difference
but actually i want to use this as an
opportunity to tell a story because that
people say why do you hate the left so
much why do you hate leftists so much
sometimes people are confused
they say
don't you think you're taking it too far
don't you think you're taking this
anti-leftism thing way too far
why do you hate them i mean yeah you
disagree with them about some stuff but
why is it that you hate leftists
why do you
hypothetically wish
thank you
for the pinnacle of social democrats
calling themselves communists
why do you hate leftists
no people genuinely especially
international communists
are fucking confused about why they i
hate american leftists so fucking much
let's pretend i didn't hate leftists
let's pretend i liked leftists let's
pretend i wanted leftists to win matter
of fact let's pretend i wanted the
starbucks union to win
and i wanted all that to win i wanted
victory victory victory for the left
they would still call me a fascist
thank you so much your takes are like a
hot knife through butter keep up the
good work thank you so much
they would still
fucking
exile me want to know why because they
don't want to win they don't actually
want to win
that's why i hate the left because they
are whores and prostitutes sometimes
literally
but i hate them because they are whores
and prostitutes of the fucking democrats
and i have experience with the left
i have experience
i'm a high energy male i get things done
i know how to get things done
right when i was working with leftist
irl
they did not consistently consistently
they did not want to win
they did not want to do anything that
had
they didn't want to do anything that
would make them independent or like
promote them
they didn't want to be successful they
don't want to be successful they don't
want to win they want to sit and whine
and bitch and have these friend networks
they want to have these huge networks of
thousands of people yeah networks
that they're all going to use as pools
to get activists to canvas for the
fucking democrats
and and they're like i left this but i'm
against the democrats too no you are not
no you are not
you are a leftist if you're a fucking
leftist you're a democrat
at the end when all is said and done you
are a fucking democrat why because every
time the opportunity comes positively to
actually win in any kind of fucking way
or get anything done you're going to
sabotage it you're going to say no to it
and you're going to fuck it all up
because you don't want to win and you
want to learn the evidence of that if
you're a leftist why haven't you won why
haven't you fucking accomplished
anything why haven't you built a fucking
party with with at least
30 000 people why haven't you reached
the american working class if you're a
fucking leftist no give me your excuse
go ahead give me your fucking excuse go
ahead tell me
why haven't you won
why haven't you won why haven't you
reached out to the american working
class and fucking done anything if
you're a leftist
i'll tell you why because you love
losing you love losing you don't want to
be successful you are a whore of the
democrats that's all you fucking are
it's the only fucking reason you have
any of the time of day to have an
audience with anyone you're a fucking
aura of the democrats
you don't want to fucking win
if you have no excuse it would be the
easiest fucking thing in the world
to actually win in this country as a
leftist
but you don't want it
so we have to start asking the questions
and going to the root cause of why
they're not winning because i used to be
a leftist believe it or not i started
out as a leftist but i realized leftism
is a loser cult it's a cult of losers
they love losing they don't even want to
fucking win so you have to go down to
the root and it
you have to go to the root of the matter
and the root of the matter is this
every aspect of leptism every aspect of
walkism every aspect of leftist morality
every progressive value that they have
as it stands every single aspect of
leftist culture every facet and every
aspect of leftist ideology
has its basis in the democratic party
and the institutions thereof
every single aspect if you do not
definitively break with the left in
every kind of fucking way and from zero
cambodian paul pot style from zero year
zero
create from scratch a completely
different basis
for your marxism or for your communism
you are a whore of the democrats and
nothing more you are a whore of the
democrats
and i
was a leftist and i know firsthand these
fucking people
these cockroaches these fucking worms
don't want to fucking win
and i know that from first-hand
experience
they don't want to fucking win
the the biggest nightmare of a leftist
is if they took power if a leftist took
power
they would immediate they would do
exactly what these fucking cocksuckers
like fucking boric and petrol do
but they would do it alexis c-pross from
caesar syriza
you don't want to win they don't want to
win
they don't want to win the biggest
fucking nightmare ever leftist is
actually taking power thank you so much
nicholas
and i'll tell you what it's just like
put it this way imagine some dumb bimbo
prostitute who's on a fucking
90 year old billionaire's yacht
imagine
if suddenly she was charged with
responsibility for sailing the yacht
imagine if she was charged with all of
the responsibility for all of the
finances all of the piloting the private
jet and fucking sailing the yacht she
would freak out
because she's a dumb bimbo prostitute
who's only there to get fucked by this
old man and has no other purpose she's
not there to be a leader she's not there
to fucking be powerful in any kind of
way she's not there to fucking say take
charge of anything she's a prostitute
she's a whore
thank you bobo replacement
that's the same thing with leftists
they're not there to actually be the
leaders of anything not only that you
paperwork
they also can't
feckless
people
failures
but but you have to understand they
enjoy that they want to be failures they
love they're in love with their failure
they're in love with that failure
they love fucking failing
because they're the whore remember this
just keep repeating it they're the
whores of the democrats they're the
prostitutes of the democrats the more
you just repeat that the more everything
makes sense thank you farrakhan
absolutely true i remember a few years
ago during bernie's primary the chapel
leftists knocked on five doors and
bernie lost and then they became utter
nihilists their biggest fear is having
legitimate responsibilities
just fucking remember i see i remember
the bernie shit you remember when we
wanted to make a muscular left and we
wanted to fucking fully be independent
from the fucking dnc and they called us
nas balls and they called us fucking
toxic nazbol fucking red brown
conspiracy fucking dug in this dugan
that you guys remember that shit i
remember that shit because i was a
fucking veteran of it
you guys know samira and how much she
hates leftists and how toxic samira is
samira
was a bernie surrogate
she was from she saw it firsthand too
don't fucking sit here and say i'm too
harsh on leftists oh you're too against
leftists like that fucking cocksucker
we are we going to name him are we going
to talk about geoff young on this stream
like he's saying huh you're just
dividing left too much huh i mean you're
saying he's a 66 year old man why don't
you give him the benefit of the dog
house because if he's 66 years old he
should fucking know it by now he should
definitely know it by now but here's
what's going on with joff young okay so
i'm going to show this to you
so joff young
won the democratic primary in the 6th
congressional district in kentucky
and what happened
i'm just going to briefly show this to
you
because it's kind of amusing
so this is this retard guy so let me
show you this it's actually it's
actually funny
i'm gonna i'm gonna show you what's
going on
so look at this fucking dumbass look at
this absolute dumb fuck
who i have no respect for as an elder
because they're a dumb fuck and i have
no respect for a fucking democrat
cocksucker so check this out
look at this
giaff young democrat for peace check
this
look what he's doing now
he's popular now
so joff young
is citing jay sakai settlers and he got
1300 likes and when he was denouncing me
he got like 600 likes for denouncing me
so left twitter loves gioff young now
left twitter loves joff young and he's
doubling down even more like reading
sakai now and shit you want to know why
because this dumb fuck thinks that on
twitter
the more that twitter left us like him
the more his chances of winning in
kentucky are gonna fucking strengthen
so
he thinks that online
all that is gonna translate into real
world victory and he's going to get
elected
but you know in all honesty i'm going to
say it
i actually looked at his district
and this is why i want to put a cap on
this old
i want to put a seal on this geoff young
business
he might win
i don't fucking know he might win let me
tell you why he might win
because it's it's probably the closest
in kentucky in the state of kentucky
it's the closest
democrats ever get every election cycle
last time the guy only won by 60 percent
okay the democrat won by like
40 okay
so it was i guess that's kind of close
for kentucky
and then you recently had this abortion
thing going on
and yeah abortion i mean look what
happened in kansas with the abortion
issue
so
the abortion issue might be enough to
get
joff young actually elected in kentucky
and if there's a possibility for that
dumb fuck that bumbling old fool
to win
let's just not be the ones he can blame
let's not be the ones he can blame let's
just fucking cease and desist from
having anything to do with him let the
leftists carry him to victory
and we're not going to wreck his shit
we're not going to stop him from winning
we're just going to ignore him that's
what i think see last stream i was like
you know what y'all feeling i will roast
the shit out of you and whatever i'll
create a hate movement against you just
for the memes or whatever because i
thought it's guaranteed he's going to
lose but i actually looked it up
and he has a non-zero chance of winning
so let's just
ignore
let's just ignore we don't want to be
the ones who are blamed if he loses
let's just completely ignore this guy
because listen leftists are always going
to promote people that hate me
like if someone turns on me let me tell
you how it works
if you're my ally and then you suddenly
turn on me you're gonna get a huge boost
relative like very relatively huge boost
right like thousands of likes
from left twitter and then one week
later they're gonna fucking ignore you
and you're not gonna gain anything else
from it it's a very short if you want
short-term clout just fucking denounce
me you will get very short-term
popularity and then leftists will
discard you because the goal is to bring
me down the goal is to fuck with me and
i'm okay with that i'm okay that
leftists do everything they can to try
and bring me down because every waking
second of my day
is now as of now on my part
spent
doing everything in my power to
something
within
i will make allies with the right wing i
will make allies with the republicans i
will make allies with the militia
movement i will make my allies with
the conservatives
those are going to be my allies
and those are going to be my allies
because i'm gonna work with them to
destroy leftists
and that's how much i'm convinced
these cockroaches are the number one
fucking enemy right now that's how much
i'm convinced of that
i will work with anyone who can destroy
the left and destroy leftists
anything to do harm to leftists
and how do i do the most harm to left is
possible
this is dialectics the more harm you do
to leftists the more you make it
possible for real communism to come into
this country understand the dialectics
you go to the mother
nest you go to the sugar daddy the
democratic party
as long as you can ensure democrats
don't get elected you are doing the most
possible
to ensure the victory
of a working-class movement in this
country the democrats are the number
enemy number fucking one you destroy the
sugar daddy of these
left-wing whores and prostitutes
you've got a ticket to victory
because they are always see look
they are my biggest enemy
even though i block them and i ignore
them they still do everything in their
power to fuck with me and bring me down
so if i want to get anywhere i have to
destroy the left first i have to fucking
absolutely eviscerate the american left
if i want to get anywhere
if you are a real communist in america
and you want to fucking do anything
your number one enemy is leftists
marx and engels said that their biggest
enemies their entire lives
were the socialists other socialists
you know who put a bullet in lenin a
fucking leftist they have always been
our number one enemy you wanna know who
internally sabotaged the soviet union
leading to the great purges fucking
leftists
remember the left is the number one
enemy
the right
is just a mistake
becoming a rightist is just an error
the real evil the real
enemy is in the left the right can't be
an enemy think about it even in fr even
in fucking the spanish civil war you
think franco and the conservative
uh
reactionary monarchical spanish you
think they amounted to anything no there
was a bunch of old farts
who
weren't even living in the present they
needed the left wing element they needed
to appropriate they needed those fucking
phalanges thugs and lumpin twisted
psychos to take on
the republicans
and you know who else they fucking
needed they needed the fucking social
democrats and the anarchists to fuck
over the communists
and atrocities they needed these
leftists both on the other side and even
themselves they needed some leftism to
fight the republicans
so rightists are not rightists have
never been a threat ever rightists are
never ever a threat
the nazis
were leftists
yup
the italian fascists were leftists
that you're only ever a threat when you
become a political satanist
and you decide
that you are going to transgress
the bounds of fucking
basic human
objectivity right you're gonna
transgress the bounds
of political reality
it's leftism
the left has always been the number one
enemy enemy number one
again the right
is not an enemy they've it's never been
an enemy of anything
to be an enemy you need to be a leftist
did you do you think the white guards in
the russian civil war
were the number one reason they were a
threat no
because they were getting bankrolled by
the fucking progressive
internationalists
coming from england in america
and france in particular
who had this globalist
wholesome chungus vision which was
leftist
those were the people who helped the
white guards they're the ones who
bankrolled the white guards it's the
only fucking reason they were a threat
to anyone
the russian civil war
and then who else
the traitors
to the revolution who joined with them
goes on
the number one thing i hate hearing
which is the biggest sign of being a
fucking midwife is when people approach
me and they go hey
hey those aren't leftists those are
liberals no they're leftists they're not
liberals
lenin didn't write liberal communism and
infantile disorder he wrote left-wing
communism and infantile disorder they're
leftist they're not liberals
they're leftists
how do you think that you think that
leftists and liberals are the same yes i
do thank you so much
and the italian fascists were to some
extent inspired by george's sorel do you
consider him a toxic influence overall
no i consider leftism a toxic influence
in general any politics based on leptism
is a form of mental retardation
again we're gonna circle back because
this is exactly what we're talking about
here leftists do not want to win
do you think gorbachev had to do what he
did
oh i'm gorbachev
i'm a progressive leftist
i'm gonna i'm gonna conce oh more
democracy
more democracy
more openness
harmony
bring the lgbt movement inclusivity
progressive islam
western to my democratic culture bring
the hippies bring the drugs
he did that because he was a
compassionate leftist by the way
now
if the russian eurasianist conservative
fucking hardcore kgb
fucking heart like
if those motherfuckers were in power
they would have
completely
they would have
you know how in tiananmen square they
didn't run over the protesters with
tanks the tank man was not run over they
just
they would have ran them over
if the hardcore
eurasianists
and they weren't explicitly erasing they
were like these hardcore conservative
communists
kgb hardliners right if they were in
power they would have ran motherfuckers
over
and they would have fucking got away
with it too
they would have ran motherfuckers over
outright
but because gorbachev was a leftist that
didn't happen leftists are weaklings
they're weak willed and they're only
ever prostitutes of higher powers
such as america
and the socialist international and the
swedish social democratic nordic
socialist pieces of shit
keep hearing the same thing i keep
hearing the exact same same thing
haze you're too harsh on left is
you're confusing leftists and liberals
so you're saying hey are you if you're
not a leftist are you a right-winger
know what i am i'm a nuclear fucking
bomb that's what i am i'm not a leftist
or a right-winger i'm a nuclear fucking
bomb
i'm splitting the fucking atom within
how about that
what do you think about that
i'm not a leftist or a rightist
i'm a fucking grenade that's what i am
i'm not a leftist i'm not a writer
i'm a fucking grenade that's what i am
i'm not here to
huh i haven't left this leftist value
you're a cock sucker that's what you
fucking are
and the right wing
the right wing will never accomplish
anything because they're not active they
can't be active
it's antithetical to what the right wing
is to ever be active in any way
right wing basically just means you're
against the tide of history you're
against the way things are going so what
what are you gonna do about it
you gotta do something about it
thank you johnny one of the most based
and true things you've ever said was
that hitler was an anarchist
he was
hitler was absolutely an anarchist
hitler was the definition of an
anarchist
what do we mean by dark maoism when we
say we're dark maoists what do we mean
by that
means
you know what i liked yeah guys ever
tell you this
i'm going to tell you what my view is
this is where haaz is coming from when i
was in high school
i had to read kurt vonnegut
slaughterhouse5
and i looked up what kurt vonnegut's
political views were because when i was
in high school i was a fanatical
communist or whatever with a lowercase c
because i wasn't in a party but i was
like a fanatical ideologist and i always
did a kgb screening of every author i
was ever assigned to on in english to
know like how suspicious of them i
should be because that's how fucking
paranoid i was and fanatical i was
i was like pretty much an islamist but
for communism
anyway i heard kurt vonnegut
say something that epitomizes
where i stand
okay he said
he said
in response to the events of september
11th court vonnegut said
it's just too much all right
in response to terrorism as a phenomenon
kurt vonnegut said
i think he was talking about
he was talking about terrorism okay
he said
let me let me actually pull up the quote
because i don't want to misquote him
uh i don't know was it him
i don't know what it is
i don't know if it was kurt vonnegut
actually
all right
geez
he said something okay i just want to
make sure it was him
they must have since scrubbed this from
the fucking internet
okay here it is
here it is okay so this is the exact
quote this is what struck me okay
he said
so the interviewer says what about
terrorists do you understand where
they're coming from do you regard them
as soldiers too
vonnegut's reply is startling i regard
them as very brave people
and then the interviewer says you don't
think that they're mad that you know
anyone who would strap a bomb to himself
must be mad
and then vonnegut says well we had a guy
who dropped an atomic bomb on hiroshima
didn't we
what george bush and his gang did not
realize was that people fight back peace
wasn't restored in vietnam until he got
kicked out everything squatted he was
talking about the iraqi insurgency
that's what it was he was talking about
the iraqi insurgency and he said
this is what he said and then there was
a long pause before vonnegut speaks
again and this is what he said he said
it is sweet and noble
sweet and honorable i guess it is
to die for what you believe in
and that comes from a roman
saying that's a roman saying okay it's a
roman saying
which is it's sweet and noble to die for
your country
and
the contrast to me was very striking
he's talking about jihadi terrorists
and then he's using this roman saying
and
those two combined
was very interesting
to me
and i am an angry person and what i mean
by that is that i'm not a leftist
left the left is associated with
femininity and empathy and compassion
and liking green and small furry animals
and liking the environment and i want to
burn the environment i want everything
that's green to be burned just this
week i'm being poetic right now but i
just want to see the tears of
the leftist environmentalists see the
entire environment burn into ashes
that's what i want to see and
um
as an angry person
i
i can't i'm not a right winger i'm not a
right winger because
the right wings just seems like
it's just coping
so
what i actually
am is
instead of left or right let's just go
below
or on the surface and i like to go below
that's where i am below
i'm the
schmithian gorilla i'm the schmidty in
partisan
i'm the klaus vitzian irregular
soldier
that's what i am i believe
neither and not the left not the right
but guerrilla warfare
the partisan
schmidt carl schmidt the partisan that's
what i am
i'm a partisan that's what it is
partisan let's do that
we're not leftists we're not right-wing
either we're partisans that's what it is
carl schmitz partisan
the irregular soldier
irregular warfare what the fuck does the
left mean to us nothing
nothing
and i hate leftists and i hate the left
in every way
in every capacity i actually have hatred
for the left
ha pizza hut huh
pizza hut
pizza hut
i'm going to say something fucking crazy
i don't even know if i want to say it
in the 1990s
in russia
in 1990s russia
the alliance between
communists and nationalists was
unironically fucking based
and it was no different than in fucking
china when there was alliance between
communist and nationalists against the
japanese in russia when they had an
alliance between the nationalists and
the communists that was unironically
fucking based
unironically
unironically fucking mega based
oh yeah i'm going there you're against
gorbachev because you did not agree with
the dismantlement of a potential soviet
social democratic state i'm against
gorbachev because i'm a schmithian
partisan
who
wanted to put together a nationalist
communist alliance in fucking 1990s
russia we are not the same you fucking
bitch
and i don't i think the nozzles were all
for leftist and anarchists and
adventurous and that's why i didn't like
them but
there's always a butt
there's always a but in the 1990s
when nationalists and communists came
together that was fucking based that's
what i have to say it was fucking based
and that is actually the definitive era
that we now find ourselves in
today
that's our era
if leftum is all about fraternity
equality
how do you that's not what it's about
american virtual it's just not and i
just
how many if god's this is what fucking
like it's incredible i every day i go on
stream and i say
i want leftists
to beep i say that every day
but
people come in my chat like huh aren't
we still left well no we're not left
this year i'm not we're not i'm not a
fucking leftist
i'm
not i'm a schmidty and partisan not a
leftist
not part of the right wing either
if you want to call me a leftist 20
years from now
call me one say in retrospect he was a
left-wing partisan
but i don't care
i have nothing to do with leftists and
leftism i fucking hate them i fucking
hate leftists and i hate leftism and
leftism is not about equality and
fraternity
leftism is specifically about this ready
leftism in america
is about being
the shock troop vanguard
for the ruling class
more bourgeois than the bourgeoisie
themselves that's what leftism is about
in america it's about purifying and
distilling the ideology of the
capitalist bourgeoisie
and valorizing it and sublimating it
into an entire ideology that's what
leftism means in america
and the right wing is just trying to
resist that the right wing sits here and
they go no we want to resist
the the bourgeoisie's march of progress
and then here i am the partisan and i
say
i don't want to resist anything i want
to go on the offensive
i don't want to resist i want to fucking
bury them in a tsunami let's have our
own fucking march of progress
and bury these motherfuckers
hypothetically metaphorically poetically
the difference
the thing that separates me from the
right wing
is that
i i think these people can be destroyed
there can be victory over them
i don't think they're scary i don't
think they're they're gonna win i don't
as much as they are psychopaths
indifferent to the death of human beings
as much as they are scum and they're
these evil fucking people i don't think
they're gonna win i don't think that
they're that tough i don't think they're
that strong i think they're gonna
fucking fold because they're
they're cowards by nature see leftists
are nothing leftists are bitch made
their bitch made if you go for their
fucking real source of power they will
crumble and fold like nothing they will
be fucking squashed
the lesson of mikhail gorbachev and his
death is the following
this is the lesson i want to give you of
the death of mikhail gorbachev
the death is this
if you don't want any more gorbachev's
go to the fucking root cause of the
problem smash the open society smash
international liberalism smash
international leftism make closed
society
make a closed society be a fucking
eurasianist
fight like a schmidty and partisan for a
national terrestrial and telerik war
of enclosing your society
closing closing
choke the leviathan
in it put the leviathan in a chokehold
as the behemoth
that's how you fucking get rid of
gorbachev gorbachev is just an egg
inspiring laid by leviathan flex biceps
thank you
is that an order
thank you w11
fight for the closed society close it up
board it up
make it a state of siege
make it a state of siege board it up
close it up
put up the barricade just like in the
paris commune
put up the barricades like in the
fucking paris commune and get ready for
a smithy and irregular war against the
globalists and the fucking soros open
society and the fucking international
financial banking ruling class
that's what i have to tell you
put up the barricades against the
international central banks and the
network of international central banks
centered in the city of london
and poetically i'm speaking poetically
become a grenade
give yourself to the destruction
of this enemy
this is what i believe in
if you before you virtue signal about
the death of gorbachev i want you to
fucking prove
you're gonna roll a little potato
under gorbachev's
platonic source
prove to me
you are a smithian irregular prove to me
you're actually waging war against the
international globalist forces that were
behind gorbachev
if you can't prove that to me
you're a fucking cocksucker who's just
fucking
ah pizza hut memes because
let me tell you what these people had
planned for the soviet union all of
these people saying pizza hut whatever
hakeem people they wanted gorbachev
without gorbachev hakeem wanted
gorbachev without the consequences of
gorbachev and that's the fucking problem
no really think about it do you think
hakeem is like a stalinist
raise your hand if you think these
leftists are hardcore stalinists do you
actually think they wanted a return of
like a stalin like a hardcore fucking
hard-line communist state in the soviet
union no
they wanted gorbachev they wanted the
lgbt
the pride flags running the rainbow
pride flags they want about feminism
they wanted all that shit
from the west
they wanted drugs
free free the weed man legalized drugs
man they wanted all of that
everything gorbachev was trying to bring
to the soviet union
they wanted these are not hardcore
ascetic
stalinist fucking
warrior priests or warrior monks
these are a bunch of fucking left-wing
pieces of shit
a bunch of hippy pieces of shit who want
who wanted gorbachev without gorbachev
and you want to know some of the you
want to know some of the only fucking
proof you need for that some of the only
fucking proof you need of that
some of the only fucking proof you need
of that ready
some of the only fucking proof you need
of that
the same leftists are out here
who didn't denounce gorbachev they
support angela davis
for democracy in our age
we've come together supporting mikhail
gorbachev
for the revolution
the revolution is coming
power to the people in the revolution
and social democratic socialism
and the committees for correspondence
are going to be here giving a speech
and we need a more effeminate left
we need a more feminine left
and we need to support our comrade beat
caillou gorbachev who together with the
international progressive movement
is trying to make us more progressive
and democratic
we had a lot of mistakes in our past
comrades
stalin took it too far he was
authoritarian and he repressed the
glasses wearing professional managerials
i'm going to come together and support
the democratic party
and we need to oust us all from the
communist party
because we're the committees for
correspondence and we need reform and
revolution
and when i say revolution i mean it in
the same way steve jobs did just a
vaping meaningless fucking term
that's referring
to a brand aesthetic change in our
orientation
and and leftists are watching those
speeches and like so true
oh i love angela davis fuck angela davis
if you are not see when angela davis
passes i'm going to celebrate how about
that
i'm not i'm not celebrating gorbachev
but when it happens to angela davis of
old age yeah maybe i'll celebrate i
might
i actually bite see you're not we're not
on the same level
you guys are out here
doing the thing that's acceptable oh
yeah i'm gonna celebrate gorbachev and
you're you're not you're that's
meaningless every even fucking chapel is
doing that
but when and if i'm here on the news
that angela davis passed away that i
might actually openly celebrate that i'm
not even kidding
see we're not the same
okay i'm actually an evil dark
motherfucker
i'm really about this it's not just like
a meme to me
and it has that's cold-hearted that's
cold-hearted
i am cold-hearted i've been made
cold-hearted i'm an evil cold-hearted
motherfucker how about that
i'm an evil cold-hearted motherfucker
i'm anticipating people okay so you guys
i mean i'm waiting
i'm waiting now i'm not gonna celebrate
anyone's death i'm not gonna celebrate
i'm just saying if you're gonna
celebrate gorbachev's death you gotta
celebrate all these other people's
deaths too you're probably not gonna
right i'm not a monster i'm not gonna
celebrate nobody's death i'm just saying
if you're gonna celebrate death
be consistent
that's all i'm telling you
be fucking consistent
like uh okay actually i'm gonna tell you
guys when bernie dies
i'm gonna do the crab brave thing
bernie sanders how about that
are you guys gonna celebrate bernie
passing because i am
i plan on celebrating that
rest in piss
you motherfucker
see then i can relate to the russians so
all the russians who are celebrating
gorbachev's death as russians
you're not i'm not a problem with you
i'm going to do the same to bernie
sanders right so i don't have a problem
we we understand each other the same way
you're celebrating voter 12 now i'm
going to celebrate bernie sanders but i
just have to check all these leftists
who are dude celebrating gorbachev's
death and shit because they're not about
shit they're not about shit they're a
bunch of fucking fake pussies a bunch of
little bitches we're not about shit
they're not about a goddamn thing in the
world
they're not about a god damn thing in
the world they're not about it they're
just not
we're here with the committees for
correspondence
hello i'm gonna be here promoting jeff
young for candidacy
need to make sure
that we get abortion so let me tell you
the reason joff young might win i don't
know if i did this
so the reason joff young has a chance of
winning
certain people will pass away and we
will be coincidentally celebrating for
unrelated reasons in unreal engine 5.
thank you so much jan are absolutely in
gary's mod unreal engine 5 absolutely
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we are here
to commemorate the death
of gorbachev so has will celebrate the
death of bernie sanders
yes
did i blink
yes
now why
because you guys have to understand when
i declare something as an enemy i mean
it in this klaus vitzian sense when an
enemy is an enemy i have nothing for
them nothing there's nothing
remember remember what i said
means what he says
what he says
it's not i don't i fully understand the
complete gravity and depth of what i say
which means i am taking into account his
family and how his family would mourn
his death taking into account he has
kids his kids would mourn his death
taking into account his wife i'm taking
into account all of those things
only then do i say these things after i
take see lefties they don't take it into
account
that's why they so readily celebrate the
death of all these people because they
don't actually take into account the
real world i do so that's how you know
i'm a cold-hearted motherfucker when i
say i can actually do that
oz means what he says
never forget it
i'm a man who means what he says
take me home
take me home
take me home
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when am i going to be you know what i
you know okay okay we can okay here's
what we can do on twitter i want to give
you guys a pro tip so on twitter there's
things we're not allowed to say but you
know that screenshot of sam hyde
from the boxing match you can post that
photo you can actually post that photo
so i'm gonna start posting that photo um
i'm gonna my next tweet is gonna be
something like i don't know why leftists
still interact with me because this is
genuinely what i wish upon them
and then i'm gonna post the sam hyde
screenshot
because that's that you can actually do
that it's a pro tip
you can actually do that
just letting you know
it's a shortcut it's a it's like a it's
like a you know
it's one of those things
okay
yikes all right so i want to see some of
the responses to the death of gorbachev
because
i want to see putin's response i think
he's going to be
mournful that's what i think
so let's check it out putin in the world
react to the death of
gorbachev does he understand why so many
worldwide held him in such high esteem
biden said
putin expressed condolences
yeah i mean
that's see you guys understand
it's a formality
gorbachev's tireless commitment to
opening up soviet society remains an
example to us all
an example to us all
you know what's funny on twitter the
retards are responding to my tweet
the left-wing retards and they're saying
you're see this is what i tweeted you
guys know what's funny look at this and
we're not doing any more twitter
bullshit i'm just telling you
very quickly right
because this is a news this is what i
tweeted right and leftist retards
literally retarded right literally and i
can't say anymore without getting banned
but
they think that this is the pro
gorbachev tweet they think that this
means i'm like praising gorbachev
they literally don't even know what the
open society foundations is so they
literally think this tweet is pro
gorbachev that's how fucking stupid and
worthless they are right and there's
just
you have to you know there's questions i
wish i could ask without like with
without getting censored like for
example like
at some point when you're a fucking
idiot right
are should you be allowed to continue
live living
by posting on twitter because you should
be banned from twitter right
but
haas means what he says remember that i
always mean what i say
anyway guys i don't know if you guys
know this but the yankee tanki actually
went on vaush's stream
to debate voss
and it's it's funny because boss chose
him
his vos clearly doesn't want to debate
any tankies but he chose the yankee
tanki to debate
and you know
because boss thought it would be an easy
time because the yankee tank he's a
silly guy
and voss was like okay i'm not going to
debate that haas guy because i'm scared
shitless of him i'm not going to debate
any other the tankies but the yankee
tanky guy will be easy because like that
you know he's a silly guy so that's the
guy he chose to use as an example and
get this right
you're going to see it because i'm going
to show it to you
but
get this
vosh actually lost the debate
he actually lost
he actually lost the debate
so we're gonna react to it and check it
out
not because this is the fat fuck wash
but because it's the yankee tanky right
so let's see
red phoenix is rising we have defeated
bosch this character can't santa and
bring an argument against us it is clear
to me that the yankee tanki has won
we are victorious
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guys remember voss never uploaded my
debate with him so remember that
he never uploaded my debate
howdy how you doing um hello uh first of
all sorry about the whole cult thing um
that that really sucks that's not good
you uh you indicated an interest in um
in arguing with me uh on twitter which
is a fine and respectable thing what did
you want to disagree about
well i want to disagree with one
particular thing yeah okay
so
it's one thing to say that caleb maupin
was this individual that did terrible
things that was trying to build a cult
that was a sex pest these things are all
true
however what is not true
is this idea this concept that the
ideology that we dispose uh those who
used to be former members of the center
for political innovation that our
ideology would
automatically become some sort of cult
and that's what i'm here to debate today
um yeah okay so just to clarify my
position i don't think that it
automatically um produces a cult but i
do think like ideologically you guys are
authoritarian um and you're
authoritarian in a way
which discord server has more rules the
infrared one or the washed one i'm just
i'm just saying i'm just saying like do
we actually have authoritarian
personalities not really we enforce
discords tos
and if you piss me off personally
while i'm online i might just ban you
for no reason but i'm barely ever online
okay
so
like who's actually more authoritarian
i don't know
we literally and our telegram has no
rules by the way
our telegram has the rules of the first
amendment and nothing more just letting
you guys know our telegram has only the
first amendment as the rule
and we oh yeah no sex nothing sexual
nothing degenerate
so nothing degen nothing sexual and the
first amendment and the laws the u.s law
and that's it we don't give a fuck so we
have to ban all the far-right people on
the discord
but not on telegram we don't give a fuck
here on telegram
we don't give a shit
yeah i wish people use telegram more i
wish people used it more people just use
discord but the telegram is way more fun
you know it's like way more and you can
you can say anything really
you can literally say
we don't we don't yeah no n word yeah
the n word is a red line we don't allow
the n word
but we allow all other words literally
every other word we allow
so
yeah
no n word but you can say literally
anything else and we don't care
um and it's so much fun
so who's more authoritarian you know i
don't know
is that our personality i don't think so
that kind of requires sort of like um
like an anti-empiricist perspective that
is to say like you're you're
okay we're already off to a wonderful
start so vos the retard
uh doesn't know that marxism is
anti-empiricist and that marx called
empiricism
the notion that truth is grounded in a
collection of dead facts
so we're off to a great start already
with vosh who doesn't realize that
empiricism
why what is why is he saying empiricism
what do you mean
empiricism who the fuck is an empiricist
in 2022 no one
even positivists
and the the recent form that the
positivists have taken you know the
post-positivists i guess you want to
call them that even they're not
empiricists nobody actually believes
that truth comes from sense
datum anymore voss you fucking idiot
there they have more like a structural
mathematical positivism
you know according to which
these completely
you know in in
in um sorry
these completely abstract mathematical
formula describe reality better than any
senses possibly could
so we're already off to a great start
with the retard wash who doesn't even
know what empiricism is
your perspective involves like ignoring
reality so i think the like the the
puzzle pieces are already set into place
for um
i can see why he doesn't bring me on
because i'd be like okay
so you think reality
isn't you think reality discloses itself
to us or is accessible to
us exclusively or primarily through the
senses
through the physical senses the
phenomenal senses moreover is that what
you think i mean that's a really stupid
fucking thing to say
but
okay
this guy's like david hume but fat well
david hume was fat he's like david hume
but
more stupid and uh doesn't actually know
what he's talking about
for wacky behavior like that to take
place um
which is which is probably not good
okay so
so was so epstein was a tanki because
he's basically saying if you're a sex
pest
or if you're running a cult it means
you're denying reality and that's
because of your authoritarian position
all right well what about all the
fucking liberals
and anarchists who do the same shit i
mean i don't know
i don't know i'm just a guy asking
questions
i disagree entirely i think the ideology
our ideology has lifted millions of
people across the world out of poverty i
believe our ideology actually advanced
forward human progress is one of the
main reasons why fdr was able to pass a
new deal because he wasn't able to do
that without being pressured by the
cpusa the spa and trade unionists that
were in coalition the force fdr that
actually represent the working class i
don't think the welfare state of europe
would have existed if it were not for
existing communist uh states like the
soviet union
he's he's right
he's actually right about all of this
and farther you know uh there wouldn't
have been uh the successes of the soviet
union with the space race uh
advancements of cell phone technology
and other things
yeah i've made fun of yankee tangy
before
but he's not mentally deficient all
right he's not he's just like he's a bit
silly he's a bit eccentric
but
he's not he's he he is a normal person
like he is a normal
guy he you know he's very self-aware he
knows all the things he's doing he's
just a bit silly you know
but yeah just want to let you guys know
uh if it were not for our ideology yeah
so the problem you've already
demonstrated it is ideological and i've
said this before even when we weren't on
good terms i said yeah he's not
stupid he actually puts up a good argu
you know he he can debate he holds his
own
he knows how to argue you know and he
brings up reasonable points
oftentimes
well incoherence you basically just rope
together everything that you think looks
good and like
determine them to be a part of your
ideology um
the the lifted millions out of poverty
you're referring to i assume you're
referring to dengueism is a liberal
yeah um
this is like embarrassing i don't know
i don't know why voshov wanted this
yeah why would you upload this you don't
know that communist states lift you know
poverty is relative right
so
before the communists came to power
people were like dying all the time of
malnutrition and disease
and they died significantly less after
the communists came to power because
their standard of living
drastically increased their caloric
intake drastically increased i know
these are things you don't think are
valid metrics of poverty but they are
yeah sorry let's let's let them continue
performance revisionist ideology the
labor unionists and
people who pressured fdr were largely
anarchists and
what
oh god sorry i thought i thought yankee
was gonna make us laugh i didn't think
boss was gonna make us laugh
uh okay so source is there a source i
mean interesting anarchists the people
who don't believe in
uh political involvement in any kind
thank you chris morales takes every bad
idea that supports the establishment and
amplifies it that's his modus operation
yeah actually guys the anarchists were
behind the popular front did you guys
know that it was
anarchist
look at this you know no no
so we really know vos is a fucking
retard that's okay
but
the sad thing is his retard chat who
just fucking eats this up like slop
working class socialists in america the
people in the ussr were marxist
leninists aka stalinists aka fash
they were stalinist aka fascists aka
anarchists aka magicians aka
um fairy tales aka um liberals aka
anything i'm pulling out of my ass aka
libertarians a.k.a
what
so
the problem is like like i don't think
you really believe anything outside of a
kind of generalized anti-american
hegemony um
which is
it's really a bad thing to believe it on
its own but um it's not enough you know
thank you blood kangaroo
where's my news
uh watched earlier emilia thank you his
chat is literally subhuman
i agree with that fully
guys you know sneako got banned
shniko got banned
he he got his second strike he got two
strikes for misinformation
yikes
so he's probably gonna go to rumble
and so is haas
i'm talking to the rumble people now i'm
just waiting for their email
uh and i'm gonna be streaming to rumble
soon with jackson
we're gonna be doing a show on
rumble and it's going to bring the
twitch stuff back in many ways
great i see that if it were not for the
ideology that we pushed as mls uh we
would not have had most of the positive
things that workers have experienced
across the world uh quite frankly you
know uh it was always
does he just go out of his way to like
have a weak chin
i don't why i don't understand it looks
so fucking stupid
no he looks like he looks like a fucking
uh
dr seuss animation
like the lorax
the 3d pixar we're not pixar but the 3d
fucking
lorax animation look it looks so he
looks like a whoville
like he looks like a fucking animal like
a whoville fucking
some kind of fucking forest creature
you know this is like a high level of
soy you get sometimes you have so much
soy in you you have so much low
testosterone
that you become a fuck you become a
fucking whoville who villian
who villian uh fucking fizzinogamy
it was always the marxist lindness who
actually pushed for these things first i
don't think you're a communist
the civil rights movement uh only
existed because communists were on the
ground first before anyone else but i
don't think you're a communist like
you're claiming ideology
okay even if you don't
uh you know what he's talking about you
know what he's referring to so just
replace communist with stalinist
and take the stick out of your ass and
just why don't you just like deal with
the substance of what he's saying i
don't know is that unreasonable guys is
that unreasonable am i being
unreasonable i don't know
uh i think i think wash and his chat
uh
you know what here's what i'm going to
say this is what i can say the same
thing that vosh and his chat wish upon
the russian army i wish upon them
personally the same exact things the
same exact things they say they want to
happen to vladimir putin and the russian
army
i want to happen to them but worse
and it probably will happen to them in
the coming years if there's an american
event and i will be
cheerleading it as a male cheerleader
let's go let's go let's go let's go
let's go
geez i don't think you're a part of
feminism is communism
i'm sorry
marxist leninism is communism
even if i believe that which i don't
you're still laying claimed the
ideologies that aren't marxist leninism
like denguesum is not my okay we need to
back
what
what
deng xiaoping thought is not
uh marxism leninism guys um
apparently not his wall said so
even though it like literally has been
canonized
as marxism leninism in china but okay
okay we just we're just we're just we're
just having fun here okay we're just
we're just uh this is like
just slowly watch the retard just slowly
watch the retard say things
back right up because okay let's let's
not talk about labels here because like
again this is like cold brain shit um we
need to talk about like actual
ideological beliefs so the last like the
last event that was put on
by mapping's little shindig before it
fell apart was one in which the um
that what was it the like soviet and u.s
flag were held together at a two-minute
salute before bringing out the z the
symbol of the russian um uh invasion of
ukraine so it's it's so the last event
held was a pro-fascist event um which
does little to inspire
they keep using that word and i honestly
get
i get why some people call themselves
fascists i get it now because these are
the people who always use that fucking
word the mainstream media is always
using that fucking word the media is
always using that fucking word and they
make it sound so fucking based
so i get why people call themselves that
i get it you know
i don't agree with it for historical
reasons
but i get it
just just based on how they throw it
around you know
you know what i mean
they're the um
the the communist associations i also
haven't seen any like actual communist
positions from any of you guys like you
never talk about class or marxism for
that matter you usually just defend
modern states that have red in their
flags
caleb never talked about marxism
or class
really
really
that's interesting
um which gets a bit confusing especially
when the modern russia and modern china
have engaged in like respective
de-sovietification and d like
malification with china on policy on
china engaged in demodification
that's why
i just
okay like what so okay you know what
hold on hold on let's roll this back
wasn't vos the guy who said that
uh
stalinist don't live in reality
he keeps saying things that i have no
response to other than like
like bafflingly just having to point out
like
like fosh you know that
mao zeitung thought is still officially
canonized as part of the ruling ideology
of the communist party of china
like do i
i don't know i didn't do i have to tell
you that there's still mile statues all
over china
they're what like they just recently as
like 10 years ago made a fucking giant
one like those giant buddha statues they
made one for mao where he's sitting on a
chair i mean like do you not know these
things that mao was still venerated in
china
and there was just because they uh
ended the cultural revolution doesn't
mean they they had a demolification i
mean like
like you realize
you realize that
in destalinization they erased stalin
from history they just said they didn't
have any stalin posters up they didn't
have any stalin statues they took them
all down
but with
deng xiaoping's rise to power all deng
did was critiqued mao in the same way
mao critiques stalin
and but there's still continuity
i i hate having to sound like a fucking
scholar when i
respond to this retard like why should i
have to put effort
like be like like it's being correct
in the face of this sloppy retard who
just
says random shit coming out of his fat
mouth
without any awareness about what he's
saying like
a deep okay let's just continue i'm
doing the cultural revolution and
redefining its old imperial leaders so
it's like what do you guys actually
believe in
okay again
even during the cultural revolution
mao was still venerating imperial
leaders it's just which ones
so during the cultural revolution the
legalists were being venerated and the
confucians were being condemned
and afterwards the confucians were
rehabilitated so again it's like it's
like a baffling level of ignorance
okay let's continue
apart from countries that aren't
american because it it seems like it's
totally inconsistent it's just whatever
whatever like big military hegemon isn't
america you guys like them more than any
uh correction if they're against america
if they're not against america we don't
like them but if they're against america
we think they're based and yes that's
all you have to do all you have to do is
be against america and you're based
well not against america but against the
american empire and you're based that's
all you have to be if you're opposing
the american empire you're based i don't
care who the fuck you are i don't care
if you're idi amin if you're idiamine
and you literally eat people i will
support you if you're fighting the
american empire
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unconditionally i don't fucking care who
you are even if you're idi mean and
you're literally eating people it means
nothing to me
i don't care
at all
scientific socialism explains that over
a time our understanding of material
condition changes
so this idea as if china modern china uh
thanks to the market reforms that deng
did for example uh would not be marxist
lendness would fly in the face of
literally the books that both dang and
just ping have written okay
bosh
you realize you just said empiricism
okay do you know what mark said about
empiricism
why are you saying what about marx
you just said deng wasn't a marxist
leninist you just said that
a random thing to say
fuck
karl marx was the beginning of at least
scientific socialism right lenin was
yankee tanki
props to him he looks
very he looks like a scholar trying to
explain to like a
actual retard
he's like just telling him basic shit
an extension of karl marx and then you
would argue for the case of china dang
and zhao jinping were expel expansions
on both lenin and karl marx yeah more
like contradictions of i don't think
marx would have approved of you know
let's
okay like there's like five things wrong
with that statement right
so
so contradictions are part of marxism
it's called dialectics
second of all
marxism isn't defined by what marx would
or wouldn't have approved of
it's defined by his essential discovery
which was practically built upon and
implemented
later his approval is immaterial okay he
died
so it's about
establishing continuity with that
original method of his thought thank you
so much freedom of speech but i cannot
guarantee freedom after speech
i mean
thank you
let's liberalize our economy and
introduce members of the billionaire
bourgeois class into
all right well that's just factually not
true because marx
actually supported free trade and the
communist manifesto
does speak about
uh you know if you look at the 10 planks
of the communist manifesto
they don't involve
you know um
eliminating the market so i don't know
why you're saying that
why why why would marx have a problem
with that you know what i mean like
think about it why would he
what what if people being billionaires
what does that do with anything you know
that's just a fucking number in your
bank account
that determines your access
to things
it doesn't actually define your class
position at all
actually
to the uh the vanguard party the ccp
that seems to me somewhat
anti-antithetical i thought the point of
a
again why is it antithetical
being rich
okay so okay if you're rich okay i got
it
the vanguard party was to represent the
interest of the proletariat how can you
possibly
it does
do you know what the proletariat is wash
do you know why marx elevated the
proletary into his conceptual
significance
in the first place
because we wanted the workers to have
emergency among those meetings and
manage their race on workplaces
shut the fuck up you fat idiot
probably do that if it's made up mostly
of um members of the bourgeoisie
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um
hey guys it's me um the scholarly
academic who's going to fact check vos
just right now just letting you know
that even if we were to agree with the
idea that there's an equivalence between
being rich and being the historical
class that is the bourgeoisie that mark
was dealing with um that the rich and
the billionaires that are in the cpc are
actually an acute minority and they are
in no way
a majority and there's
they are vastly outnumbered by both
workers and farmers in the party just
letting you guys know just to be doing a
fact check
because we're still because we're
empiricists here and we want to live in
reality right so empirically speaking
they're not a majority in the party
youth gosh
i don't care i'm a retard
same with russia by the way
if you don't understand how
the majority of people in united russia
which is also a communist party in a
vanguard party by the way
is billionaires
retard alert
oh it is important
to actually get the wealth extracted
from the global south or extracted from
the global south back into countries
like china for example right
you would understand that socialism
would not be able to be implemented
properly this is part of the problem
that had existed in cultural revolution
was they were not organized based on
material conditions they thought they
could change
uh society through culture instead of
material conditions so the expansion of
of industrial growth under china uh with
dang jump uh dang and uh
what do you think a fat retard like this
would think about the idea of someone
being
a taliban turbo dengust paul pot
stalinist
with larouche
nixon
nickland
dugan characteristics like what if there
was an army
of cowboy taliban
turbo dengus stalinist
with duganist nickland accelerationist
characteristics and vosh was captured by
that army what do you think the
expression on vosh's face would be
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the whole reason that they were able to
accomplish what they were accomplished
was because they were stealing back the
capital uh that was stolen from them
initially from the west so again this
isn't a marxist perspective we're
talking again you don't like talking
about class so i
just talked about the bourgeois being in
power in russia and china and your
answer was that they need to have the
bourgeois in power as a way of
mobilizing the productive forces of
china to get their money back from the
west which first of all they're doing it
is in power in russia and china
that's why putin that's why they're all
fleeing and putin's cracking down on
them because they are opposed to the
special military operation and that's
why in china the billionaires are
regularly jailed if they speak out
against the party and they have no power
whatsoever
terrible job because america's still
number one baby and two
imagine being a fat retard about to slip
on a banana peel and you're like i'm
still walking
and you're literally right up you're
literally right as you slip on the
banana peel you're like well i'm still
and then you slip and crack your head
like a dumb fat bitch
like we're literally headed for a civil
war china has already out overtaken our
economy
by every
metric by every observable metric china
is going to overtake the us in every
possible way
and this fat retard is saying no because
we're america's number one right now
apparently they've done a terrible
job like what a stupid fucking thing to
say
what does that have to do with marxism
if if your perspective is only
anti-imperialist then just say that but
marx would have never said yeah just let
the bourgeois control your country if it
lets you sufficiently exploit your
working class to like
can the bourgeois actually control your
country
if your policies regularly
come at their expense i don't know
can the bourgeoisie really control your
country
if you are regularly
challenging the very foundations of the
accumulation of their wealth
i don't know
can the bourgeoisie actually be in power
in your country if you're constantly
revolutionizing the forces of production
and preventing them from becoming
the monopoly booze that's stifling all
other competition i don't know
like you know the way china is promoting
small to mid-level enterprises
does that help the bourgeoisie how
promoting competition for the ruling
class
you china literally has tesla
in china
just to be an invasive species to spur
competition china's literally saying
fuck you to the current car
manufacturers and they're just letting
tesla loose on the chinese market just
to provoke competition how does that
help the woozi how does that help the
monopolies i don't get it
i don't get it and can you help the
bourgeoisie without helping them as a
monopoly because that's what it means if
you're helping the bourgeoisie you're
turning them to a monopoly
yeah retard bars it has not followed
these things ah retard
get the um the wealth back from the the
west
if you do not extract the wealth back
from the that was taken from the west it
is impossible to actually create a
communist society socialism is not when
everyone's equally poor socialism is
when we rationally organize labor around
people instead of profits these are
called answers you these are all um no
no no it is i can see it in your head
you're following these answers from
bumper stickers that you have in your
mind think for a second i'm talking
about class
so
why can't the ccp
manage
to be able to the ctp is the booze was
there because there's like rich people
in it even though they're an acute
minority i'm boss that retard to
economically progress you have to have
the capital the financial means to
actually make that possible okay and
that is
in the 21st century has lifted millions
of people out of poverty and have
created a society that is a lot more uh
rationally organized than anything that
we see in the world capitalism has done
wonderful stuff for china i agree but
we're not talking about class wait i'm
begging you to engage in class analysis
mutualism had markets capitalism has
markets socialism has markets the old
slave states have had markets
so socialism can have markets it can't
have bourgeois i'm talking about class
you keep ignoring the class element this
is the fourth time now i talk about
class and you're like something else
something else class
let's clarify if we want the working
class to do well we do not want them to
all be equally poor okay so this isn't
ignoring the class element it's
expanding on the class elements so why
do the bourgeois
need to be
what the fuck are you counting down to
what is this guy counting down to
what are you counting down to tell me
in the ccp if it's a proletarian state
which is what they claim to be then why
would they allow the bourgeois to be
part of the ccp they should be the
underclass the bourgeois should have the
boot of the proletariat upon them
they literally do
politically they literally do
i don't know what else you want
but the bushwa are in the ccp
into the chinese communist party uh they
would never have been able to bring the
wealth uh that was stolen by the west
back into china how do you need to put
the billionaires in charge of your
society in order to take the wealth back
from america
right
all right this is where yankee took an
hour all right don't dis paul pot
all right
second of all
second of all
i think he came a little under prepared
because all he had to say was that the
billionaires a are not the bourgeoisie
and b
are
a tiny minority in the communist party
they're not a significant
they're not a majority in any capacity
they're not ruling over anything they
don't have
they don't wield power
in the party they don't no one controls
the cpc
so it's above all of the wealth in
society it's above all distinctions in
wealth
to have everyone to be equally poor
people to be in poverty uh people to you
know end up being genocided please wait
please listen wait wait please please
and listen to what i'm wait wait please
just what i'm actually saying here okay
so i'm talking about class analysis like
in a marxist sense so why
would the chinese communist party which
is meant to be the vanguard party the
the vanguard of the proletarian state
how are any of its goals for proletarian
advancement
brought about
by putting the bourgeois in power
they're not in power you fucking idiot
these
the new class if you want to call that's
what they're called in china
have representation because the
communist party wants to give
representation to all sectors in society
but ultimately the proletariat's
interests prevail over all of them
i it's like do you not you just all you
have to do is study these things you
know you don't have to just
say nonsense
by allowing the export of capital to
return to china how could they not just
do that through policies implemented
without having the bourgeois power
islamic resources within china when they
were in alger uh like a semi-funeral
state that just got socialized okay they
did not have the capital the means in
which to actually move production
without bringing back capital to china
no i'm not talking about bringing back
capital we know china has to have
capital i'm talking about the bourgeois
why do the bourgeois need to be in power
you can just mobilize the capital and
resources of the bourgeois without
putting them in power that's the point
of a proletarian state
if china did not allow
sectors of capital to be within their
party so
so
explain to me how
they needed to put the bourgeois in
power
in order to use the resources of the
bourgeois as i understood it a pro
they were allowed into the party
because they were obviously commanding
economically speaking
they were holding a huge burden of
responsibility
administratively and managerially
as you know business leaders right
and their
input you know could be valuable for the
party's policy making
they have perspectives not everyone else
has
but their specific class background is
measured it's stamped on them so
it's not like they they can wield all
this power in terms of the decision
making of the party and say okay what do
these business leaders have to say
okay we've got your input we're going to
take into account the conflicting
interests and where your interests are
coming from
but if you have valuable input as far as
what's best for all the chinese people
will take it right
so it you know it's not that they're
being put into power it's that
they are being allowed to voice
you know
their perspective
because they do have a perspective now
does that respective immediately
represent all the chinese people no
that's why the farmers and workers
have an overwhelmingly
outsized influence in comparison to them
farmers and workers
dominate is the party right in terms of
numbers
like the party is meant to reflect
chinese society
i don't know what else needs to be said
and chinese society has been formed
under the proletarian dictatorship the
new class
emerged under the proletarian
dictatorship it's not like this is the
old bourgeoisie it's a new class
now you can call it a bouzouzzi if you
want
but sociologically speaking it doesn't
it doesn't have the characteristics of
the bouzhua it doesn't have the autonomy
of the bourgeoisie it doesn't have the
extent of private property as the
bourgeoisie all of the aspects of their
lives are completely controlled
like the extent to which they're able to
make decisions
are almost confined to matters of taste
they're not really allowed to make
sovereign choices
themselves everything they do they're
heavily monitored by the party in every
possible respect and
they have a leash on them they're
fucking controlled okay
but at the same time
they also
have responsibilities
that others don't there or they oversee
and manage these companies as leaders
right as s as leaders of
a sector of
industry or society
so you know what i mean like it's the
way he's describing it is like you think
that
they're in power but they're not
they're it's just that their perspective
is given representation just like
everyone else's and since they're a
minority their perspective is not going
to outweigh this perspective of others
military state is a state in which the
proletariat are the dominant class you
can just exploit the bourgeois as an
underclass without putting them in
charge
you would not be able to get the capital
from the west
i
there's no sound oh my god
anyway
so his reasoning is that there's a new
social stratum
the party's main goal is unleashing the
forces of production and that social
stratum
has valuable experience and insight in
regards to that so
there you go it's not
it's not for any purpose that is
thank you emirio i appreciate you
if you did not put people within uh the
ccp in positions of power so the west
would trust china
i don't agree with yankee i'm on his
side here but i don't agree with him
because i don't think it was necessary i
just think they did it because it helped
now if they didn't do it would it have
destroyed china would they have not have
been able to develop no but it's a ben
it was considered beneficial by jiangsu
men
because
they these are you know
outstanding members of chinese society
who literally did build their wealth
from the ground up unlike in the west
which has dynastic monopolies
and they built their wealth because
these are good businessmen they have
good savvy experience
dealing in business as entrepreneurs
they're skilled at what they do they're
good leaders
why not why not have their valuable
experience um
and input
be brought in the party why not that was
his reasoning
it's not like this is a bourgeoisie
that's
um
independent of the party sorry
independent of the sovereignty of the
country
it's not like this is a bourgeoisie
proper you know the booze was the proper
is internationalist and globalist they
they don't have any loyalty to any
sovereign country right
well all of the wealth
that
was created
for
this new class
was under the supervision of the
communist party and the people's
republic
they are fully embedded within that
communist society
so why not you know it's not see a
boudoir is not the same as that i i
would argue they're not the bourgeoisie
just because they're rich
to think that china was going to be
liberalized by the west
it's it's like the russian military
strategy it's a faint they're like okay
we're going to fill our vanguard party
with members of the bourgeois to trick
the west into using our sweatshops that
really that's the best you
sorry mike and it was that's the best
you've got
it was successful i mean look at what
yeah they're capitalist well done
yes china is capitalists they're poorer
than us and they have sweat shops
they're doing great
yeah guys so
should i respond to this seriously i
don't know
yeah you know guys um game racks here
so this fat retard vosh he's kind of
saying that
if china doesn't immediately overnight
accomplish what it took centuries for
the united states to accomplish that
means they didn't accomplish anything
chinese economic development is
non-existent because china has not
surpassed the united states standard of
living
despite having
accelerated within the same time span
a degree of economic growth that took
the united states more than a century
they are not
poorer than average americans the gdp
might be lower uh in china but the
quality of life uh for average chinese
workers compared to average american
workers is a higher quality do you have
a source on that by chance
um
i don't know if i would agree with that
i think in terms of access to luxurious
consumer goods
obviously not
but i think in terms of health and
well-being it is much higher
i think so
and you know all you need to see is how
chinese people react to the united
states take a chinese person to los
angeles and they'll be like holy fuck
we don't have this shit in china right
china doesn't have
these homeless drug addicted bombs
roaming the streets
it doesn't have see
it's kind of poverty china has is
qualitatively different than the one in
the u.s
chinese poverty is just people living in
villages who don't have access
to modern goods
basically
but poverty in the u.s is like a form of
popularization it's people who just live
in squalor and they're just completely
fucking
living in dirt like filth and just
like they die at 40 years old or some
shit because they're fucking high on
crystal meth and shit
i mean like it's so different you know
it's apples to oranges
i i would say the quality of life on
average is higher in china
as long as we don't use access to
luxurious consumer goods is like the um
principal metric of that the principal
metric is like psychological and social
well-being
health
in terms of like how healthy you are i
think it's better china has
less diabetes and chronic obesity and
like diseases and fucking health
problems
people are healthier and i think china
um
has better mortality than the us right
now right so let me actually see this
um
or life expectancy chinese life
expectancy
okay actually it doesn't i for whatever
reason i thought they did
so china's life expectancy is 76 years
as of 2019
and
oh wait never mind
yeah so that was in
2019 all right so check this out check
this out
this is what this is my source
yeah i do remember this
i do remember this being a thing check
this out
so china
had a higher life expecting in the us in
2019
i don't know that's still the case i bet
it is the case especially the way things
have gone now
but yeah i mean that's not nothing
it's not
nothing let's see is
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this is nothing according to wash by the
way
not on me no but i can confirm that is
the case oh okay well your confirmation
is what i need um okay so i still don't
understand how the bourgeoisie put in
charge maybe that's what america's doing
like we have the bourgeois in charge in
america as part of like a 70 chess
strategy to advance the proletariat
nope because there's no organ of power
in the u.s that exists
independently or elevated above the
bourgeoisie
there's none
there's none at all there's no like
communist party that's
able to even make the sovereign decision
to accept them or not
there's no there's no sovereign
exercise of power outside of who's just
in the us thank you chris moloch key to
understanding china versus u.s quality
of life is trajectory by 2050 they will
surpass real gdp ppp now is still
one-third of usa probably will overtake
it in the late 2030s
no but they're not richer right now so
that means china's nothing and they're
just a poor shithole country
retard
you have to have politicians in any
government that's capable of
understanding geopolitics in such a way
that they can manipulate the west for
the benefit of their own country can the
proletariat not understand geopolitics
are you a classist
they are not
actually chinese workers understand
things a lot better than american
workers largely because they are not
propagandized like american workers
uh so why not just have
the
proletariat
say it again why not just have the
proletariat in charge then if they
understand things so well why do you
need the bourgeois stepping on the
planetarium
at any point the chinese government ran
by the workers of the country are
capable of stepping in and changing how
productive
so pro tip anytime a retard says why
aren't you literally the proletariat
though there's there's different
versions of this one version is like the
balls of x took power not the
proletariat or there's also the one
that's like has is not the proletariat
he's just a fucking twitch streamer
so anytime a retard says that you have
to understand that there's a
discontinuity between
the expression of a class position
in for example politics or in culture
and the actual
physical
like
individual
relation to production that defines the
class position
and
the proletarian position in politics is
represented by lines it's what line are
you pursuing what path are you pursuing
what's your line
and
what is the basis of that line right who
which stratum of society makes the
implementation of that line possible
the reason china is still a proletarian
dictatorship is that because china's
policies are elevated above all of the
private interests of society the only
reason it's able to implement its lines
and its core its generalized courses of
action
is
because it ultimately
gains its um
legitimacy and it's
uh
how should i put it it's sanctioned from
the proletariat it's the proletariat
that makes it possible for the communist
party to be elevated above all the
particular
you know
social strata within the society
for example like if china does something
that's going to pick piss off the jack
ma where china does something that's
going to piss off you know even the
farmers china is going to do something
he's going to piss off
you know and china has pissed off the
farmers before right the reason it can
piss off all these different sectors of
society
is because
it grounds itself its sanction
its basis in the universality of chinese
society
i don't want to you throw buzzwords at
you but the communist party of china can
represent china's society in general not
just one particular
stratum
because
it gives expression to the proletarian
class
within that society
as a general and universal interest
and that doesn't manifest itself in like
bringing actual workers
to
directly
make all the decisions even though they
have a huge part in the decision making
because they're like very
much well represented within the party
and the decision-making processes that
create five-year plans
but the lines that are pursued the the
political policies the the class line
that's pursued within china is based on
the proliferate the proletariat's
position
even if that might may come at the
expense of the proletariat's own
immediate form of consciousness
that is not what decides it
and such is dialectics ladies and
gentlemen dialectics means a
contradiction between the political
and the relations of production there's
a discontinuity there's not a direct
continuum between them
production is operating but the
bourgeois are in charge we acknowledged
that earlier oh they're not really in
charge they're just
governments it doesn't mean they're i
take it back i do think that your
ideology leads intrinsically to cult
behavior this is insane you so the
problem is i could never convince you of
this but not you're not a marxist you're
not even like remotely a leftist um
you're just a nationalist for countries
that aren't american that's the only
consistent ideology you have you'll just
you'll repeat like state
i'm an ultra nationalist for the taliban
lines of propaganda from them but
outside of that there's like no
consistency in what you believe it it's
certainly not marxism this is we are so
far
this is like scientific socialism like
we scientifically just rounded back to
capitalism with nationalist
characteristics
you do not understand dialectical
materialism you don't understand that
our understanding and material
conditions change over time ah to
capitalism
not to capitalism okay
this
change over time you don't step in the
same river twice
so again i can see the bumper stickers
flying through your head i don't think
you're an unintelligent man but you like
you're you're still like i still feel
like i'm talking to a cultist right now
you're not engaging in analysis when you
when you respond to me which is why i
feel like i have to keep wrangling you
back to the point that i'm on you you
have like predetermined propaganda lines
points that you're trying to you're
trying to gear the conversation into the
means that that you control basic
marxism
understands the working class of china
and russia and all of these different
countries
they are
you know struggling against u.s
imperialism that is the fact of the
situation
um
in
um uh i i'd like nah no i don't i don't
know if i even necessarily agree with
that um
why don't you support nato uh i think
that the the workers of china and of
russia are mostly um subservient to
their own bourgeois states
more so than anything there are plenty
of countries that are directly
subservient to americans
imperialism but china is powerful enough
that if it wanted to it could provide a
better life for its citizens
so china is deliberately holding back a
better standard of living
for its citizens
they just don't want to
they're just assholes for no reason
it doesn't take time to develop a
country it's just like if you want it to
happen it'll just fucking happen all
right
you know it just happens like overnight
pretty much you say it's like if you
order if you go to mcdonald's drive
through and get a get a mcdouble
it's just that simple you know they're
just not ordering the uh
the secret menu for
overnight
standard of living that's better than
america
chooses not to but no they do they do
provide a higher quality of life for
their citizens i'm sure right i'm sure
so does uh iran so does venezuela so is
nicaragua yes cuba yes the citizens of
cuba iran nicaragua and venezuela all
have higher qualities of life than
american citizens i'm sure i'm sure the
the the sources
no but they have better qualities of
life
relative to what they had before under
the american global economic system
nevertheless
you can provide on these issues
i'm floating in a house while all of
those people have guaranteed housing i'm
sure there are no homeless in china
there are no homeless in china
there actually aren't
i'm gonna go on record and say like
there's
the amount of homeless in china is so
negligible
it's not even worth talking about
everyone in china has somewhere they can
go back to
you there you you have a huko
you can always go back to your fucking
village in china
your district wherever there's no such
thing as like
yeah sorry
sorry even the homeless are pretty much
migrants from the vil from the
countryside
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who are in a who in the hoco that
they're not actually belonging to
okay so wikipedia is speculating that in
2011 there was 2.4 million homeless
adults
which is probably not true
because those again are not actually
homeless proper
they are
um
by the way that's not it's not even a
higher than the us
relative to the population of china
it's actually less
but they have homes they're just
living
in the streets
because they're migrant workers
working away from home
yeah there's there was 20
290 million migrant workers who have a
rural hukou
but they moved to the cities in order to
find better jobs though due to their
rural huco they are entitled to fewer
privileges than urban huko
live in overcrowded unsanitary
conditions yeah but that was decades ago
things are changing
things are changing
homelessness as such
is not
you don't have crackheads running the
streets right
you know i'm gonna go on record and say
something there is no equivalent within
china of los angeles none san francisco
los angeles new york there's nothing
like that
in china at all
nothing you will never find that in
china
i will go on record saying you will not
find anything like los angeles in china
where there's shit and piss and fucking
needles and fucking crackhead bums
zombies roaming the fucking streets
throwing buckets of diarrhea at women
and shit you don't there's it just
doesn't exist there believe it or not it
doesn't
there are no yeah i know
again like
it's just nationalism here but none of
it like revolves around class interest
in the slightest um it's just like you'd
like these countries
to be better off you have to remove u.s
imperialism before anything else
um well there's not really much of a
point removing u.s imperialism if
they're just going to be subservient to
the um
uh the interests of their bourgeois
controlled governments
the countries of venezuela and
china and russia and syria and iran
it would be better if we just let them
be under the foot of the boot of u.s
imperialism
i have to pee all right
i have to pee i'll be right back okay
am i allowed to say
nevermind i'm not going to say
yeah never mind
how about what if we got rid of okay so
this is a crazy idea
what so we should get rid of imperialism
that's good
um
because without us imperialism the
people of syria would be doing just fine
actually let's talk about the people of
syria so in addition to removing u.s
imperialism there's also another uh
powerful autocratic force in that region
that's suppressing your will
assad he's such an evil person you know
this guy that didn't even want to be the
leader of this country that only got
forced into the position after his
brother died yes yes
yes the person who inherited the
monarchical position from his father and
won with a 99.9 approval rating i know i
know i know yeah i'm sure poor assad
actually support their leader
if only the protesters gunned uh he
gunned down uh understood his pain
wait wait i genuinely have to ask wait
so because i just heard what you said
even though you're you're mike's bit
dodgy but that's fine that's you know
that's whatever you just said oh so you
know something something they support
their leader do you sincerely believe
that the election results for assad and
his father were legitimate they're like
99.7
you do yeah okay you're going to fall
into another cult as soon as this
conversation is done you realize that
right like you're literally going like
the call is going to end and you're
going to walk outside and somebody with
a pamphlet is going to convince you to
kill yourself on the street
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boss is a pedo
you know the quote of nato the cult of
u.s empire you fully support them uh you
literally are arguing in favor of nato
this is the very i know it's to a
dogmatic person it might be difficult to
understand you so i i guess um
maybe you can help me i don't know how
to talk to a person like you because you
are in a different world you don't exist
in the one that i exist in
um i don't know how i would how i can
talk to you is anyone delusional enough
to believe that assad's election results
like all the info we have like you have
to ignore so much
in order to
believe that that was the legitimate
democratic will of the people that i
like i legitimately like i put this on
tier of like holocaust denial in terms
of how far gone you have to be from
reality
um
but the problem is like you believe this
about everything i've talked to nazis
plenty of times normally their delusion
begins and ends at a very specific set
of things um when it comes to that level
of like self-delusion but for you it
seems to be like half the countries on
earth are subject to your nationalist um
you would view uh uh nazis as more
rational than communists it's almost as
if you support your friend
see that's that's the thing you're
always gonna find with liberals you know
they they don't
consider communists possible but they
consider nazis possible
liberals respect nazis because they're
one step away from being nazis
but communism is something they consider
a klaus vitzie an enemy so it's like
this
right
communists are
relating to liberals as enemies on the
basis of absolute enmity true enemies
nazis are not
opposed to liberals on the basis of
absolute enmity
it's basically a disagreement on
principle it's a disagreement on
ideology it's a disagreement on overt
conscious beliefs and commitments but
it's not like this like metaphysical
difference right that's like rooted in
something
um actually real right something that's
not based in abstraction something
that's actually based in
an irreducible difference
so that's why vos will openly admit to
preferring nazis over talking to
stalinists or communists
because whereas stalinists and
communists represent an entirely like
let's you want to put it in rick and
morty terms they represent a completely
different timeline
whereas nazis are still part of the
liberal modernity timeline right it's
just like a an extra step of emergency
dictatorial powers they take which they
fully
accept as possible right they don't
accept stalinism or communism as an
alternative form of modernity and an
alternative form of development they
don't recognize it as possible
so they just return they just say okay
you we may as well ally with nazis
because you are the same as nazis
that's where the logic goes may as well
communist see that again was a bumper
sticker answer you didn't address what i
said you just like thought of like well
what's one of the predetermined lines i
have i don't think of you you're not a
communist so i don't think it's a fair
comparison
you aren't you support nato
right again it's dogmatism you don't
have any logic you just have talking
to them to uh like support countries
that are actually improving the material
conditions of their own world right
there criminal scum
pragmatism to support nato to support
u.s empire to
you're doing it again
pushed by the u.s state department
that's not that's that's not dogmatism
you're doing you're doing it again
you're not actually address so okay
the point of the argument is that you
address what a person has said
and you respond to it in in a manner to
refute it what you're doing right now is
you're repeating like talking points so
you're not you keep bringing up nato i
haven't brought up nato once i don't
know why you keep bringing it up i'm
only talking about things that you've
brought up here um
so but you keep running to other like
things
do you understand like
we were talking about assad
because you are advocating for nato and
advocacy talking about nato
but i i didn't bring up nato
is why do you pretend to hide behind
this leftist spear
uh instead of actually you know just
saying it outright that you support u.s
imperialism that you actually believe
that it would be better for the united
states to control and manipulate the
world i don't believe
that
your actions say otherwise when you do
not support those who are actually
fighting against u.s imperialism but
instead support u.s imperialism because
oh they're a lesser evil effectively
what you are doing is serving the
interest of multinational corporations
serving the interests of monopoly
capital oh my god
okay wait let me try to roll this back
okay
so
when america invaded nazi germany would
you agree that that was an extension of
american imperialism
okay world war ii
was an imperialist war
it's just that the soviets allied with
one of the imperialist factions of that
war
because they were invaded by the other
one and then as soon as they destroyed
the nazis
that the allies were planning on
literally nuking the soviet union in
operation unthinkable
so yeah world war ii was an inner
imperialist war
and the soviets identified it as such
but it was also a war of national
liberation
for central and eastern europe so there
was a strategic alliance
between these forces waging a war of
national liberation with one of the um
imperialist blocs if you will
which was britain in america at the time
but as far as the ussr was concerned
there's two wars there's a patriotic war
for the liberation of the soviet
territories in eastern europe and the
lands that were occupied by the germans
in europe
and then there was also this inner
imperialist war that was going on so
yeah
no it was actually working with the
soviet union at the crushing the arsenal
wait we we occupied part of western
germany it was literally imperialism we
conquered a country and then occupied
them for like 50 years after
thank you so much amigo
yes the us's uh um the us's
puppet government in west germany was an
extension of u.s imperialism absolutely
yes it was
i don't know why this is even a question
of course it was yeah
the soviets didn't want to divide
germany they wanted to they wanted a
neutral germany which the u.s refused
so the u.s created a puppet government
which was an extension and was
subservient to us imperialism
of course it was
the context of the us you know normandy
well that was already a war that was
already underway it was a war between
powers it wasn't like a big power
invading a small one it was a war
between powers
that was the beginning of the uh the
control of the u.s imperialists in the
decline of the british imperialists so
yes in that detail that would be uh
supporting u.s imperialism but up until
the point where they actually took out
nazi germany that was the the united
states under fdr actually
fighting on the side of the soviet union
okay you so initially you realized the
soviets and the nazis allied right wait
i'm sorry
no they didn't
wash
they actually didn't
is your perspective on the righteousness
of world war ii determined entirely by
who stalin was aligned with
the united
it's funny that we brought up st
now earlier because you're about to do
nazi apologetics again they weren't axis
power pigeon
no they were
the soviets were an axis power
or not they were probably an agreement
did not attack oh agreeing with the
nazis that's crazy why would stalin do
that
saying hey i understand that the nazis
so when the nazis surrendered to the
allies that was also an agreement but
mind you the nazis surrender to the
allies
surrender is a form of an agreement okay
because it's two people
at a table one of them surrendering and
they agreed to the surrender so
therefore the allies agreed with the
nazis
it's really smart
these are going to declare war on us
let's try to
prevent the our country from being
invaded for as long what about
what about chamberlain
what about the munich conference
that never happened
that that's a tanky cult
lie
munich conference never happened
possible so we can build up our military
that's worse that's a great excuse dude
i i love allying with nazis for
self-preservation
the united states uh the uk france none
of these countries one of the allied
with the soviet union against the nazis
that's remember that it was the u.s and
their billionaires or at this time
multi-millionaires it was extremely
necessary for them to invade poland and
ally with the nazis and only
they didn't invade poland you fucking
retard the polos government had already
fled
so if the soviets did not take that the
nazis would have
i don't know i don't know i don't know
why i'm taking them seriously
breaking the pact for the nazis invaded
them i know it was very necessary
they had to have that packed so they
could make sure that their military
forces were ready because the united
states and britain and france and the
rest of the western powers were not
willing to work at the soviet union they
had no choice no choice at all
okay i know we weren't even on this we
weren't even on this point we can cut we
can stop with the nazi apologetics for a
moment so oh not apologetics i'm sorry
you're the one who's apologizing
you're defending allying with nazis
right now like you guys please please
please just for a moment just remember
just for a moment
please
i just think
you ever just wake up and realize this
is a fake world everything's faking it
like
yeah just another day fat retards are
just spreading lies
soviet union had two choices uh go to
war with the germans and lose
or form a non-aggression pact and buy
time
it's just not an alliance and they form
a non-aggression pact
therefore
they they should have they should have
just died the soviets should have just
it's like vos is basically saying hey
soviets you should have spot the nazis
and lost
you weren't prepared so you should have
just lost
and that would have been made that would
have just yeah he should have just been
exterminated by the germans
that's what he's saying yay
you can't win
i really can't win with this guy i feel
like this guy i feel like with this guy
i mean it's a tough crowd he really just
can't win with this guy right he's just
kind of like he's kind of like oh yeah
just get slaughtered by the german nazis
or
you know or else you're a nazi yourself
i feel like that's what he's talking
about right
okay hold on so
uh so in concentration camps
and in extermination camps
i guess that means the victims of nazism
were also nazis because if you were in
an extermination camp
and if you were in a concentration camp
you know you had to work with guards to
survive in some ways
you know people were also smuggling
cigarettes they didn't have to do that
so you know that was without they were
nazis the the the people that the nazis
exterminated in concentration camps
according to voss were also nazis
because they uh
you know
they
engaged with nazis in some kind of way
i guess
they should have just died you know
i think it's really funny that you guys
screech that's what ross is saying he's
just saying they should have died
and should have been gunned down
instead
and every pow was a nazi every prisoner
of war in world war ii according to boss
was a nazi because they didn't just
fucking get the gun down they agreed to
get captured what is what's up with that
what is up with that
battalion because there are like 2 000
guys out of hundreds of thousands of
ukrainian soldiers who are nazis but
meanwhile the soviets literally allied
and split up poland with the nazis for
years and you guys are like no choice
like you're like oh
yeah the soviets split up poland
if it wasn't for the soviets the nazis
wouldn't have invaded poland
they won enough they needed the soviet
union to do that
like basically what the germans did was
they were like okay we we can't invade
poland by ourselves
we need the soviets to help us do it
that's why the polish government went
into exile before the soviets
even stepped foot into poland
zielinski was is going to throw nazi
militias at the russian invaders this
means the entire country is a nazi oh
but the ussr working with the nazis for
years peace talks allying trading
territory agreeing how to carve up
poland oh that was a totally necessary
like again i know you don't actually
believe in anything outside nationalism
so let's just move to the imperialism we
don't believe in anything other than
siding with u.s imperialism but that's
really besides the point right right
union was in a position that they had to
make sure that millions of their people
were not slaughtered by them i know i
know it's fine it's okay wait i want to
get to the imperialism thing please if
all of these countries would have
actually signed with the soviet union if
it wasn't for the ussr the polish would
have beat the germans
exactly that's that's that's what i'm
saying walsh is so right
he's so right about all this
reunion which is what stalin tried to
push in initially the soviet union would
have never had to have a defense pact
with this uh
thank you germany i agree with you
allying with nazis is fine thank you so
anyway
um with the imperialism thing so we
agree
that america invading and occupying
germany was u.s imperialism right
considering that it was the us doing it
and we invaded and we literally occupied
territory
and allowed a bunch of literal nazis
after the fall of nazi germany into the
government uh going into nasa well
you're in favor of allying with nazis so
you shouldn't have an issue with that so
i am in favor of allying with
anti-imperialist powers so you are an
all right of nazis so anyway
now that we've agreed that there was at
least one instance of american
imperialism that was morally justifiable
um
maybe we can acknowledge that
it was totally justifiable to occupy
uh west germany that's be very clear the
united states should have pulled out
entirely only gave them financial
resources to rebuild and support the
reunification of germany under a soviet
government for
what
why wait
why would they just
their arguments consist almost entirely
of an adverse confession by accusing
their enemies of the crimes they are
guilty of themselves no honesty
just give west germany to the soviets
they the west germans didn't wait wait
what wait why would they do that
wait don't do so so so ussr could just
annex germany
unified under the soviet union that
would have been the best way moving
forward for the german people instead
now you know you ended up having germany
split into the west germans disagree
that was the nation of the west okay i i
know you're angry that you lost the cold
war um and that the communists won
but eastern
what a retard
what the fuck the communist one
is he joking i can't tell germans
are on our side now
the cold war or the cold wars continued
except now
china is leading the culture the fact
that you believe that explains so much
of your ideology okay so anyway even if
the us had only provided aid to west
germany and only done the invasion that
still would have been imperialism
because exercising your power over
another country is by definition
no that's not what it is
that is uh
not at all what it is
fuck
who would have thought that i heard this
system it's not just invading a country
oh my god
i can't get to anything i can't do any i
can't get to any talking point with this
guy holy shit okay
so
whatever would have happened america's
involvement in world war ii was a
broadly justifiable act of american
imperialism end of the second world war
after the end it would have been better
for germany to reunite okay wait stop
please stop with running off to other
talking plea i'm just talking about us
imperialism world war ii we get it you
like the ussr you have virtue signaled
sufficiently i am begging you for just a
second to please stick to one topic
holy shit
okay i love it no i i know you love it
because like you're brain damaged you
literally just got out of a cult like i
you you can't be proud of your ignorance
when you were just suckered by a cult
leader sex pest like you you're like
you're literally like like talking to me
as though this is part of some like
broader ideological victory on your part
when you just got
a person you trusted like turned out to
be a lunatic and i'm trying to get to
one point and like it's abundantly clear
to me how this happened to you so i'm
just gonna try to okay
so if american imperialism was
justifiable in an element
what do you mean it was justifiable
there's
it's not
a judgment made from the perspective of
morality it's a pragmatic
and immediate decision the soviets were
making
so from what vantage from what point and
perspective are you
saying if it's justifiable or not do you
think there's like a universal standard
of morality that can be applied
to
like every possible actor
unconditionally because
because you have a retarded
understanding of what morality is
yeah it happened
so
um so first of all imperialism doesn't
mean using your power against another
country
but
as far as u.s imperialism against
germany is concerned
you are dealing with
an inter-imperialist war between
different imperialist powers
and the victor is not so much exercising
imperialism against the nazis
as much as it's assimilating the nazi
war machine and the nazi system
as part of a a fusion into a new global
unipolar
world order so it's like
and at that point
you have germany
which is subjected to u.s imperialism
so it's not that imperialism was used
against the nazis or the nazis were
victims of imperialism
germany was victim to imperialism
that much needs to be emphasized it's
not that the nazis were victims to it
they weren't it was that was an
inter-imperialist war
um
so imperial was imperialism against the
nazis justifiable
there was no imperialism against the
nazis it's that simple
that was a
inter-imperialist war
world war two
and you know i never made that argument
we don't agree on this part we don't
agree that stopping the nazis was good
we agreed that stopping the nazis was
good but that wasn't an act of
imperialism okay that was supporting
you when you invade a country
and take over an area of that country
that
is imperialism
what a retard no it's not
oh it's fucking not
what
no it is not
imperialism is an economic system
it is the highest stage of capitalism
i knew you were going to say that the
talking points first of all
talking points
so first of all you literally just
talked about how we should have provided
economic aid to west germany that would
have been imperialism by the leninist
definition
imperialism is economic aid
according to lenin's definition
that's in chapter um 65
of imperialism the high stage of
capitalism
we should have provided an economic aid
for the whole all right i i just this is
too long i don't want to watch this
whole fucking thing i just don't
i'm already bored
are you guys bored i don't care because
i am
i'm super fucking bored of that
that was really boring and it was a very
um unfortunate waste of time
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i want to say that if i saw some people
in real life like if i just saw them on
the sidewalk
i'm not kidding by the way i'm not
actually kidding about that
um
yeah not a joke
i would uh have a really long
conversation with them
without provocation by the way i would
just start doing it
yeah i'm not kidding
i'm not
kidding oh wow
i feel like there's some people feel
like some of my stalkers i should just
do that i should just find them and do
that i should actually some of my
stalkers were super invested me i kind
of feel like just doing that
oh you really like me huh like you
really like stalking me how about some
of this
oh man
why shouldn't i you know what i mean why
shouldn't i
feel like if i don't know
if you really want to hate haas you
better hate oz right you better really
hate him
because
i will really make it personal
um but yeah
i don't know
i don't know
i've been going to the gym again
i think i'm gonna have a lot of fun i'm
gonna have a lot of fun in the next
four years it's gonna be a lot of fun
and uh
i have become very desensitized
to fun
but like
i don't know
how much do people have to lose you know
i don't know because i have nothing
nothing at all
but
i hope i hope the people who like are
full-time haters have shit to lose or
sorry don't have anything to lose if
you're a full-time hater of me you
better not have anything to lose
because i'm promising you right now
you're gonna lose it
i'm just promising you that
i mean obviously not all of them right
i'm just saying like
i don't know i just feel like
i just want to see what would happen
right like how would that
psychologically affect my haters if i
just like found them
if i found them physically like how
would that affect them what would happen
to them what would they say what would
they do
you know what i mean
yeah i just want to test it
honestly
i just want to test it
and you're allowed to visit people you
know i'm not threatening anyone i'm just
saying like
i i would visit some people i'm not even
kidding i might just do it i'm not going
back to michigan for a few months
so i might just travel
actually
i might just travel
i'm not even kidding
oh god it's gonna be fun
yeah
and they're watching me right now
they're like literally watching me right
now
hi
i'm coming
by the way
oh
thank you uh this looks like the wealthy
skit so who knows
it comes from got himself it comes from
uh
everyone on the sidewalk
it comes from low testosterone
the only reason a man stalks another man
is low testosterone
so that's what it is it's low
testosterone
but um yeah
they these are like they're like pretty
much bitches they're like females
pretty much
if they're men who turn female
but not directly but like emotionally
they just become pussies basically they
become like a think of like a screaming
vagina that's what they are
they have no shame nothing
and some of these people are in their
mid 30s
and have kids
and are stalking me because they're
begging to get on their knees and suck
me off and suck my cock
they're like absolutely obsessed with me
it's so fucking creepy right but
there's a solution to that
there's a solution to that and um
i'm very much
eating plane
tickets just kidding
i mean i i don't know i have a few
months
before i go back to michigan and i'm
honestly going to be traveling across
the country
i'm going to be going to la soon
and then i might make some stops
as
well so i'm looking forward
anyway
i i'm very inspired by sam hyde you know
he's
he's such an inspiration
i didn't even think you could do that
right
i just didn't
apparently you can
anyway guys i uh have to eat dinner
i gotta go i'll see you guys later
bye