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Yo, what's up everybody?

Comrade Kid with a 25. Thank you appreciate you uh comrade k with the 10 what's up appreciate you

sit right with the 5 what's going on oh boy welcome cult members to the infrared renaissance. If you're not on board, get the fuck out of here. If you're not 100% on board with the cult and the infrared renaissance, we don't claim any bitch-ass energy. We have an existential crisis at our fucking hands and there's no fucking choice.

Infrared is either going to expand or it's going to fucking die.

This thing about retaining stagnation since the founding of ACP for two fucking years, not going to fucking happen.

Okay.

We're putting our fucking lot. We're putting our fucking line.

We're putting our foot in the sand right now.

Wallo with the five. What's up? Appreciate you, man.

Jensen with the five. Appreciate you, brother. Thank you.

Law schooler. Thank you.

Listen, my guerrillas. Let me tell you something.

For the past two years, okay, for the past two years, you guys have been incredibly generous.

You've been keeping this ship afloat.

Stagnation, yes, to some extent, stagnation.

You've been keeping the ship of infrared afloat.

The party has grown.

The party has gotten what it could.

But if we don't grow infrared at this point,

I don't think the party is going to be able to have the pipeline it fucking needs to grow.

The core militancy of our party comes from the infrared movement. If infrared doesn't grow, we have no direct

pipeline to the party. Okay? For two years

we have not grown infrared. I haven't even

uploaded anything to the YouTube. I haven't

had time. And it's not your guys'

fault. You've been incredibly generous

as 300 Spartans

allowing infrared broadcast

allowing the broadcast at the very least to continue as it has been on kick, what is it, three times a week? But at this point, we can't afford stagnation. We need to turbo grow infrared. We need to grow this. We need to grow this movement.

99% of people need to be socialized online before they're even going to consider doing

anything in real life. Nobody's going to directly join the ACP just because they think it's doing

good work unless they're already enmeshed in some kind of

activist NGO networks. The only way people join ACP is if on a discursive and ideological level,

they've already been won over to it. That's how we're going to get people to join. This is the

conclusion I've drawn for a very

fucking long time. And in the lead up to the National Congress, I want you guys to understand.

I know it's awkward. I know it's strange that I have to address the party in this format and this

medium. Don't worry. Everything's going to be addressed.

In the lead-up to the National Congress,

I need to be full hands-on-deck for the party.

I'm just going to tell you straight up

without mincing any fucking words.

Continuity is not possible.

We have to fundamentally, we need fundamental reforms.

We need fundamental reforms based on the adaptations that are necessary for the fact

the party is not the same one that it was July

2024 July 2024 we had nothing we had some of the habits some of the skeleton of the

CP USA that itself was not a sustainable foundation to draw upon. We need to

reorganize the structure of our party.

Not by throwing away what's worked

so far, but by adapting to the

experiences we've had. I need to be

full hands on deck for the implementation

of this strategic vision.

Especially now.

Simultaneously, infrared needs to grow.

So I'm torn between two obligations as one person.

And the fact of the matter is, infrared needs a team.

Infrared needs a team of people who are dedicated to expanding infrared, preferably ones that are in Europe or somehow not obligated by the party.

But in any case, one man cannot single-handedly like fucking Hercules make infrared do the necessary thing to make infrared the multimedia powerhouse that it needs to fucking be to be the pipeline to the American Communist Party.

Remember for the CPUSA 2036 initiative, the idea was always going to be.

I was not even enough to think this.

Infrared will watch the skies.

Joe Sims watches the neighborhood, right?

Well, now we're at a point where I'm watching both the skies and the neighborhood. And if we're neglecting the sky, who's watching the sky for us? You guys have been incredibly generous i worry about you sometimes actually if i'm going to be completely fucking honest i even worry about you guys the amount you guys give to me to just support this, to make this continue going, it's a lot.

And I've met a lot of you in person, and I know you're not particularly wealthy.

You've been incredibly generous for the past two years. You've been incredibly generous for the past two years.

You've been incredibly trusting in the process of we have to grow the party.

I have to focus my time and attention to the American Communist Party.

Strauss standing with the 10, man. Thank you.

Okay.

So what I'm saying has nothing to do with you guys

not being generous. It's actually the exact opposite.

We need a larger audience. We need

more people. We need more eyes. We need to reach more people.

We need to reach more people. We need to reach more people

through infrared, through

this subculture, through this community,

through this vision.

Don't fucking think you can fall back

on the basics

of Marxism, Leninism to grow a movement

discursively and online. You can't.

Amelah with the 10. You can't do that. If I thought you could do that, I would abandon

an infrared yesterday. You can't. People need an explanation for what happened in the 20th century. People need to fucking know why everything fucking went wrong. The works of Lenin, Stalin, Marx Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, it's all been there this entire fucking time.

And the gatekeepers

of Marxism, Leninism, and Marxism,

they fumbled the fucking bag.

They have fundamentally fucked up.

Why? Because there's something that they're

missing. They've been missing something.

We can't just fall back on the past and on the

basics. We have no way of understanding the writings of the Marxists in the past unless we fundamentally

allow this vision to be reborn in a new age on the terms and conditions of an age that no one in the past, not Marx, not Engels, not Lenin, not Stalin, not Mao could have ever possibly foreseen. And if we don't do that, it's existential. It's life and death. We cannot live on the basis of

the inheritance of the past. Rain, what's up? Project. What's up with the five? We can't depend on

and draw from the inheritance

of the past alone. Because something

happened in the past. The USSR

is gone and the future

of Marxism and communism

is directionless. Cuba

is on its knees. Venezuela

is gone.

And the next generation of people growing up

in communist states, yes, even

ones like China, even Russia

today, they don't

have the guidance that's going to be

necessary to inherit

what their fathers and

forefathers had built.

This is an existential crisis.

The infrared vision needs to be

reborn. The infrared Renaissance

needs to fucking happen.

We can't just

dissolve infrared into some cookie cutter basics. No, we can't just dissolve infrared into some cookie cutter basics.

No, we can't just fall back on Orthodox Marxism, Leninism.

That is the infrastructure that defines our party.

I have said that a million times, and it's the truth.

But guys, it's not enough it's not enough for the era that we live in we have to go forward everything needs to be relitigated we need to

rediscover everything everything needs to be thought of and understood from scratch.

And that's why infrared launched in the very beginning. That's why infrared launched in 2021.

Because what we had from the past was not enough.

There's no

infrared no it's not separate

functionally from the ACP

we used to emphasize

that strongly in the past because any

dumb fuck could fucking put an

infrared globe on their profile picture,

and people would accuse this of being ACB.

But you know what?

They're fucking doing that anyway.

They're doing that anyway.

Infrared was integral, fundamental to making the American Communist Party.

And so was Midwestern Marx, and I'll tell you why.

Because without Midwestern Marx archiving and preserving what we did have from the past, this wouldn't be possible either.

We couldn't launch a party just based on infrared alone. Why? Because where in infrared

where it was anyone doing the archiving? Who was doing the preservation of the things that we had so far? We didn't have any of that organized. But you want to know who did? Midwestern Marx. You want to know who is popularizing the precedent of Marxism, Leninism in the past?

Midwestern Marx was doing it.

And we realized there was a separate

division of labor being fulfilled

between infrared and Midwestern Marx.

And so we merged together, and

that was ACP. But here's

the fucking problem. Since that time, infrared has been neglected.

Dare I say abandoned. Look at the fucking infrared YouTube. Look at the last time anything has been

uploaded to the main channel.

You think this is because this is something I wanted to happen?

You think I just was lazy and didn't have to, and just decided I didn't want to fucking do this?

Tell me why you think I've been streaming every day at 10 or 11 p.m.

You think it's because I fucking want to?

I am fucking busy.

I don't have a team.

Infrared is a multimedia project.

You need people regularly, consistently.

Uploading on the main channel. You need people regularly, consistently uploading on the main channel.

You need people regularly, consistently, posting clips and astroturfing this shit on social media.

I can't do that by myself.

And I wouldn't expect people to have the free time to do that for free either, especially

the people that are already working in the American Communist Party.

So what's the solution to the dilemma?

The only solution is that you have to hire people to do it.

But alas, you guys are already doing so much

to just support me. Right? I have no doubt you guys have the faith and dedication to make this

happen. But guess what? That's not enough.

At the end of the day, to have the free time to fucking do this, to have the ability to sustain

yourself doing this kind of fucking shit, you need some kind of compensation.

Nothing in life is free.

You could have all the faith in the lead up to the national congress or we are talking about comprehensive visions of the reform of our party at every level.

And I am eagerly awaiting the feedback of our cadre across the ACP before I even submit the proposal,

because I want to absorb all the feedback that I possibly can.

Before any of this gets committed to a proposal,

we're going to circulate throughout the entire party.

But I will tell you one thing.

And I want this to light a fire under everyone's ass right now.

Things cannot go on the way they are not for the ACP and not for infrared i will admit to you frankly

infrared has been stagnating for two years but we're going to reach a point, and maybe we already have, where the stagnation is going to turn into a falloff. And it's not fucking sustainable. Something's got to fucking give. This needs to turn into a multimedia operation. This needs to turn into something that takes over the fucking internet, at least to some extent. Because if it fucking doesn't, the only thing that I know reliably is the most reliable pipeline to what I understand as the American Communist Party,

which I'm not reducing the party to my understanding, by the way, but it's all I fucking know.

I know the vision for this party. I have an idea of what the way forward has to be. I know what kind of party we need

to fucking be building and we need to become and we need to be. And I've had this idea of what we

should be from the fucking beginning. Even before I knew I was going to be the chairman of this party.

You guys are over exhausted.

You guys are per capita, more dedicated, more generous, and do more effort to shill an astroturf infrared than any other community on the internet by fucking far. And it's not even fucking close there's a reason pound for pound

you go up against the fucking groipers you're talking about tens of thousands of fucking people

they don't even have the level of dedication you do at 300, okay? But guess what, guys, it's not

sustainable. You are also human. It's not sustainable. We need to grow.

There needs to be more of you.

There needs to be more guerrillas.

If 300 gorillas can do this much fucking damage and this much fucking trouble, then I want you to picture and imagine in your fucking head 3 000 gorillas hell even if we got

to the point of 2 000 guerrillas i think the u.s government would fucking shoot me that's how

fucking powerful this shit is you understand we have one option grow or die there's no in between i'm at my post i know

needs to be fucking done there's no we can't we can't neglect infrared anymore we can't neglect it

because infrared is the vision

it's the vision

vortex appreciate you brother thank you It's the vision.

Vortex, appreciate you, brother.

Thank you.

If we don't have a vision that doesn't play it safe, in the ACP, I'm going to admit something frankly.

And this is the self-criticism, by the way, as much as it's a criticism of the entire party.

We play it safe in the ACP.

We play it safe.

We don't gamble.

We just fall back on precedent. That's all we've been doing. Chris, what's up? And for all that, for all that playing it's safe when it comes to the vision that guides this party, that we have formally and explicitly in place.

Where does it lead us?

We still get hurled with all the accusations and slander,

and everyone who joins the ACP,

who only does so on the basis of looking for some fucking cookie cutter bullshit isn't even fucking loyal to us. These are the same fucking people that turn around and fucking flip us off

on a dime. Who are the loyal core of our party? Who is the core of our party?

Who is the core of our party that in its hour of crisis and its hour of need remain dedicated to this shit?

Well, I'll tell you what.

It's not the people that we fucking recruited because they, we decided to be

fucking wholesome to them and they, oh, you guys are really nice and stuff. It's like,

those people are not loyal. When the going gets tough they're gonna fucking abandon us that's just the

fucking truth i want to give you a hint about the direction that i'm thinking about for this party okay birmingham with the tent thank you i want to give you a hint about the direction that I'm thinking about for this party. Okay. Birmingham with the

tent. Thank you. I want to give you a hint about the direction I'm thinking about. The age

of Midwestern Marx, infrared, or RTSG from that matter, being completely separate the party it's got to have to come to an end not sustainable not logical not rational, not sustainable.

Not a rational use of resources, not a rational understanding of the relationship between these media platforms and the party.

Not an intentional. We have gotten to a point of maturity where we can start talking about how these things are actually going to have an explicit relationship of some kind.

And that's the direction that we're on.

But I have to be frank with you guys about something.

And today, I raise the issue with the CC.

The current path is not sustainable for me. It's just not. I have to grow infrared. I know that I have to grow it. I know what I need to do to grow it. But the duties and obligations I have as chairman in the party make doing it single-handedly impossible i mean people ask about the book

to even think about a book you need to have a platform that you're going to have an audience for the

book now the patience of the

guerrillas of this movement has been very much tested for the past two years, but overall,

we've had stagnation for infrared. It has nothing to do with your lack of generosity as an audience and as a community

the dilemma has to be solved in some kind of way.

And so I, although I could delay telling you about this and talking to you about it and saying it in a pre-confined medium or something, I want to share with you my thoughts, just directly and frankly. First of all, I want to say something.

I am currently, and I don't see this changing in the foreseeable future.

I would say never, ever, ever, but who knows in five years what's going to happen.

Just understand in principle, right now I'm against it, okay?

I don't ever want to levy dues in the ACP to give me a salary.

I don't feel good about that.

I don't want to do it.

We, not enough of our party resources go to the party itself at this point.

And we are getting some accumulated to the center that aren't going to salaries, the two that we have.

But I would never impose that.

I'd never impose that.

But I want to tell you, I just want to lay out to you

one of the possible strategies to get infrared growing, okay?

Right now, if you're a member of the american communist party you can actually voluntarily give retainer dues now if you were to do that voluntarily, just whoever has faith in this strategy and this vision, which I'm not going to make fucking binding as a condition of being a member of the party.

So if you don't want to fucking do it, do it, you don't have to do it.

But if you go to the ACP website and you start and you just set up sustainer dues

at whatever level you can afford, and if this is able to put me on full time, I will take the income that infrared makes, and I will hire editors who do it full time. I will build a team for infrared. I will use everything that infrared generates just to grow infrared.

I'll stream on YouTube only.

Forget about KIC. I'll stop even looking at KIC.

I'll alternate between Twitch and YouTube, and that's it.

And from the YouTube streams, I'll do the exact Jackson model.

I'll stream on YouTube, then I'll have people cut it up and post it on the main channel.

We're talking about daily uploads, okay?

On Instagram, on TikTok, there's going to be clips uploaded daily, okay?

Clip farms shilling all over social media.

That's how we turbocharge and grow infrared.

But that's only something I can do if the income and revenue that I generate from infrared is able to go toward that and I the majority overall majority of you who support me

on these live streams

I'm pretty sure do it because

for the same reason.

So I'm floating the idea.

I'm just floating the idea to you

to discuss amongst yourselves.

The way forward

for infrared expansion.

I would never take enforced dues that fund a salary for me.

But if you believe infrared needs to grow, then I will primarily support myself through sustainer dues, which are completely voluntary,

and everything infrared rakes in will be used as capital to grow infrared.

But otherwise, but otherwise i'm just going to make it very clear to you like abundantly clear current way is not sustainable this was the best thing i could think of this is the best idea i

could come up with and i talked talked with the CC about it,

and I just kind of thought, manically,

that I'm just going to directly talk to you about it.

I'm not ashamed

to tell you about this fact.

I'm telling you the current situation isn't sustainable.

And why would this be the more beneficial thing?

Because two reasons.

The top donators to the infrared stream, Let's be honest about something.

A minority of people on the infrared kick streams are the ones supporting primarily the continued operation of the infrared show in the stream.

But maybe if there was a more even distribution, it would just be enough for me to do what I need to do full-time,

commit full-time to the party in the lead-up to the National Congress while simultaneously hiring people to churn out infrared content see the thing that's easy for me to do is just stream on youtube it would be

piss easy for me to stream on youtube three four times a week and then I could even have the videos privated

and then have an editor chop them up

and just nonstop, upload them, upload them, upload them

to the infrared main channel.

Just like the Jackson model, same thing he does to grow as YouTube.

Will ACP disappear otherwise?

No, it won't disappear otherwise.

But my ability to guide the party

with the strategic vision that I have now,

you know, it will be unsustainable for me.

Regardless of whatever happens, I'm always going to be committed to infrared.

And if my duties were alleviated or if I somehow wasn't occupying the office that I currently am, I could just do, I could do all that infrared shit full time. You know, like, I could

just do infrared, you know, like, I could just do infrared, you know, where just like how I did before, where I would stream, you know, five times a week, or I would, you know, have all this free time to make videos and all that other kind of stuff.

Chop them up and upload them.

YouTube, Twitch.

This is a basic mathematical dilemma, and it's not for lack of generosity on your part as a community at all.

It's just a simple consequence of the fact that

right now infrared has been neglected.

The other showrunners are very incapacitated.

The other showrunners

are working.

They're in education full time.

And they're severe,

there's just nobody's able.

Grayson has been trying to help with this new video

because he's doing the voiceover and he wrote the script for it.

And this video is going to be dropping, I don't know when, a new infrared vision video, but that might be the thing that kickstarts the Renaissance per se, se right but yeah there's a there's a there's a

mathematical problem that my responsibilities are currently divided i'm sharing with you my thoughts

that's all i'm doing and um i i would not feel good about compelling dues from the party to pay me a salary.

I just wouldn't.

And I only want to lead you if you have faith in me anyway.

It's just the truth.

You guys, if you don't have faith in me, if you don't put your trust and faith in me,

I don't want to be in the position that I'm in.

Um,

so that's it.

You guys are incredibly generous.

You have done a lot to support me.

But I have been letting you down by leaving you to be as lonely as you are.

Shoulder to shoulder, there should be 10 more guerrillas to your side to side.

When you're looking over your shoulder, there should be 10 more guerrillas than there currently are.

I mean, what could have possibly happened that the infrared movement, something we all anticipated,

we're fucking explode.

We've made so many different excuses in terms of censorship and other things.

But this was supposed to be a decentralized decentralized viral fucking meme that takes over the

entirety of the fucking internet and it hasn't done that but there's a reason it hasn't done that

my responsibilities have been divided it's the frank and simple truth I'm trying to tell you.

What I do in the party is a full-time job.

And I spend time doing things you guys will never hear about.

One crisis after the other dealing with it.

Behind the fucking scenes all the fucking time you need to consider consider how many people even in leadership how many disputes there are

how many times people are crashing out?

How many times some bullshit happens?

Guess who solves everything?

At, you know, at that dimension.

I'm not saying throughout the entirety of the party.

Okay. and by the way, and by the way, this issue is not related in any kind of way to the issue of universal dues.

Like, our party doesn't have the universal dues thing and all the arguments I made in favor of it

is not even related to this issue.

Do you understand? This is a completely separate thing.

This is a completely separate thing. Okay. So... So. Look, guys, I'm aware of a few things, and I'm going to just tell you about them very frankly, right?

I want to have a very frank discussion with you about this.

Um,

um,

I know that before this infrared

renaissance commences,

we're going to have,

we've already had guerrillas bleed out

and just fall off.

We've already had gorillas

just fucking quit.

We've already, I've seen it, you know.

We've had some guerrillas

just fucking, they've crashed out, they've they've crashed out they've turned into fucking

whatever they've gotten demoralized so for those of you that remain i'm telling you very clearly

our renaissance happens now or this is the end of the movement.

And there are those of us for whom the death of this movement is not an option.

Count me one of them.

Come hell or high water.

I'm going to make sure that this vision is somehow communicated to the world

and reaches the millions and millions of people that it has to.

Our biggest fucking mistake is that for so many years we've just underestimated ourselves and our importance.

Why are you fucking blackpilled?

Why do you fucking look at the disgusting state

of U.S. politics and the filth that infects people's fucking mind

and not understand that all this time,

we have been the solution to all of that.

This movement, this is the movement that walks the golden Stalinist path.

This is the movement that keeps at bay like the fires of hell the right and left deviations that make people fall into extremism into nihilism into evil we have walked the path we have treaded the path. We've balanced that path. And we alone have done it. we should hold ourselves to a much more profoundly high standard than we currently are

we should hold ourselves to the standard

not on the basis of we shouldn't compare ourselves to PSL we shouldn't compare ourselves to these other leftist

organizations we shouldn't do so in the name of calling ourselves more realistic frightful

what's up, man?

We should be brutal with ourselves.

We should understand there is zero fucking reason why the ACP shouldn't be at 5,000 members right now.

There is zero reason.

The infrared movement shouldn't be a movement of tens of thousands of people.

Zero reason at all.

Do you guys comprehend and understand that the infrared vision doesn't confine itself simply to Orthodox Marxism, Leninism?

That the infrared vision believes there's something new on the horizon.

That we live in an age, unforeseen by anyone in the past, that the meaningfulness of history has not been completed, that in some sense, those who came before us

have failed.

They've achieved a great deal, there's no doubt, but they us have failed. They've achieved a great deal.

There's no doubt.

But they have also failed.

They have failed to transmit and light the spark of communism in the hearts and souls of hundreds of millions of people.

And we are in the state that we are in the world

for a reason. And those of you who say, oh, trust the plan, everything is going fine. It's

really not. It's really not.

We're living in a revolutionary age, where there's a revolution in everyone's mind and everyone's heart.

But there's no word for it. There's no way to understand what it is nobody has clarity or guidance

and so they fall into confusion and obscurity right and left deviations extremism nihilism

weren't we supposed to be the ones that guide the masses of this age through the current revolution that's happening regardless of who's at the fucking helm i spent years and years extending a good faith olive branch to these fucking loser leftists, only to wake up to a world where everyone is saying slurs and talking about Zog and political correctness has died.

And now I realize

how much time was wasted

because of a lack of confidence

and faith

and what we had built.

What had set us apart.

Yes, I wanted to sharply distinguish myself from the rightus, from the cringe, anti-woke, Matt Walsh types, and whatever.

But at the same time, wholesomeness is also a deviation.

Wholesome Chungus is also a deviation wholesome chungis is also a deviation we need to be the thing that they fear we need to become the movement they're scared we're going to become

we need to evolve into something from the perspective of the prevailing leftists from the

perspective of the rightus from the perspective of the rightists,

from the perspective of the conventional bourgeois consciousness,

is considered pretty fucking dangerous ideologically.

Panda, what's up?

We need to rise to the occasion to turn that small spark that lit the fire that turned into ACP.

We need to light that spark into an explosion.

We need to think about our humble beginnings and our humble roots again.

I couldn't be prouder to communicate this message to the people now tuned into it right now.

And when we rise and when the infrared renaissance happens, there's going to be a lot, a lot of people who come back and say, oh, it was a fan from day one.

But you weren't here to listen to me, deliver this speech.

Now were you?

And that's okay.

I'm just saying I'm remembering the people who are here. I'm remembering the people that had conviction in this vision and stayed through it through thick and thin and didn't take a black pill, didn't abandon it, didn't regress into some bullshit, didn't fucking veer off and crash out out of their own fucking confusion

and schizophrenia, which ultimately is rooted in what?

Faithlessness.

I have no problem saying that.

I have no problem sounding like a fucking cult leader saying that either.

Dad, what's up?

Faithlessness.

Faithlessness. dad what's up faithlessness faithlessness faithlessness it's the cause of all evil in the world

just faithlessness

if you have faith in your heart

you don't have arrogance.

You're not certain in things that lead you to be evil.

You just have faith.

Humble, what's up?

Yellowstone, man, I appreciate you.

I appreciate you. I appreciate you.

I've looked side to side at the generation that I grew up with

to see if somehow I'm some fucking freak

that became a crazy fuck

while everyone else is living normal lives

and I hate to tell you

but

it's not so

it's not so

grandma what's up

everyone is so fucked up in the head right now

you wouldn't even believe it

you wouldn't even believe

how devoid of guidance

devoid of a basic path forward

how fucked up in the head,

how fundamentally twisted and malformed,

the average person has become. this general This generation needs our guidance.

Or else they're going to veer off into some fucking tragic, tragic mistake.

And you can't just tell people.

You can't just tell people to read a book that was written 100 years ago.

You have to tell people that there's something new.

And that something is here.

And if I didn't have faith and confidence in that something,

I would have never showed my face in public in the way that I did when this whole thing was launched.

We can't rest on the inheritance of the past. We can't say that you know dad what's up i mean

from what i'm hearing about cuba's reforms it's not going to be like vietnam from what i'm

hearing i'm hearing something really bad about them cuba cuba the epitome, the headquarters of the inheritance of the past, quite literally, that's all sustains Cuba is the inheritance of the past. And look where that led Cuba. Can we afford to go down the path of Cuba?

Can we afford to share that kind of faith? Fate? I think the faith that's necessary to compel us to go forward.

I've always said it is lighter than a feather.

It has no inheritance.

It's not rooted in anything that's solid there's nothing there that you can grab

onto and hold with any degree of certainty there's nothing there that you could just point to and say

yeah it's just good there's nothing about it you could speculate on it.

You let it open you to the future and compel you forward.

Without any certainty or guarantee about the outcome whatsoever.

Just a pure belief that whatever the outcome is, it is somehow compatible with the human input that went into it. You know, today, I spent two hours trying to, I thought this would take 20 minutes.

I spent two hours yelling at chat GPT to fucking get those slides that I put on the infrared Instagram

that were a summary of the thing that I wrote to get it fucking right because it kept

fucking up over and over again.

And I looked

at the infrared Instagram and how I haven't

posted on it in fucking one year.

I looked at the infrared

TikTok and how I haven't been able to

fucking do anything with it in a year, despite that being the promise.

And I'm like, what the fuck?

And on top of that, I'm dealing with all this shit in the party.

And it's like, what the fuck?

Um,

it's not sustaining.

People wonder why my sleep schedule is so fucked up because I end up having to stay up till

5 a.m. a lot of the time, either because I have to do everything first and only then and then

can I stream, or after I stream, I'm in a fucking five, six hour phone call about some shit that's popping off.

And so it's like, you know, the division of responsibilities here, it's just not possible.

It's just logistically, I didn't want to have

this conversation with y'all. I've been doing this for two years, and I'm only going to talk to you

about it before the National Congress. Okay, thanks. the national congress okay thanks and uh it's because i'm just i'm trying to tell you it

can't go on the way it is party can't go on the way it is infrared can't go on the way it is, infrared can't go on the way it is.

And if you have any faith in me at all,

if you have any faith in this vision

that you got from me

somehow,

then I see no other way than the way forward that I told you about, but it's

voluntary.

You know, there's no compulsion in faith.

And I'm saying it's voluntary, even with respect to your commitment to the American

Communist Party. The door is always open. If you believe in an American Communist Party without

this vision, you're allowed to believe in it. I did five to the war chest. If I started giving

dues at $200 a month, would that go towards your goals today, or should I wait until after the Congress?

Thank you, Autistic Potato.

There is nothing else.

Boogaboo with the 10, appreciate you.

Um, no, you don't have to wait till the national conference. appreciate you.

No, you don't have to wait till the National Congress.

You don't have to wait

to the National Congress.

Um... since I started

I've always aimed at an income

of 5K a month

and if we could reach that voluntarily or whatever then anything in excess of

that would just be would just accumulate in the coffers of the party, you know, but.

Hipsco, what's up?

Appreciate the 10.

And anything that's earned from infrared from that point forward would exclusively be used to grow infrared.

Every dollar that goes into infrared would be spent back on infrared.

Including on the merch stuff, and I promised you guys merch.

Well, let me tell you the state of, let me tell you the frank and honest state of where the merch is at.

For weeks, for a week, I've woken up

and I have struggled hard to make

the logo for the merch,

which is more time consuming

than you could possibly fucking imagine

that got detracted and derailed

by party stuff of course

and

and

And I haven't even looked at the merch in like five days.

Um,

Hipsco, what's up? Thomas, appreciate the 10 man, thank you.

Appreciate it a lot.

Like guys, like I said, it's not because you're not generous.

You know?

Chunggoloid added five to the war chest every day.

I feel more and more like a big fat chungas.

Thank you, chungeloid. Thank you for your great words.

Um, I've been beating myself up over this shit, guys, because I do gaslight myself a lot.

And I'm like, oh, this is just because I'm lazy, right?

But then when I start to fucking think, I'm like, well, is there a single multimedia platform that is trying to do what infrared is that only one person is responsible for like has that ever existed ever now granted amyrio and others Discord, as moderators, they do a great job.

So I can't just say I do it alone.

Moderation, they do a great job.

But, like, in terms of the output, and Christian, of course, who was also overwhelmed, by the way.

Like, I don't know if you guys know this, but the infrared website was designed by Christian,

and the infrared website, the article that I wrote, Phil Fo, what's up? The article that I wrote

a few months ago

was adapted to the infrared website

thanks to Christian. Also, we took Hakan's design

to do it.

So,

of course I'm not totally alone with infrared.

I'm not saying that,

but it's like, in terms of operating the thing,

I look at everyone else.

Everybody else got, they have some kind of manager.

They've got people doing clips.

They've got something else.

And it's because they're paying for it, right?

They have the money to pay for it, um, usually because they have an investor

or they've signed up with a Talons agency or something that's investing in them. Now, I could just

tell you for a fact, nobody's going to invest in infrared who's institutional. It's not going to

happen.

I will quit my... Grandma, please...

That's exactly what I don't want you to do.

I don't want you to do. I don't want you to do that.

I think if collectively,

like,

if you distributed the amount of support

in a more equal way,

it might be viable.

You know, you could just treat it as like the Haas Netflix subscription, but instead of a Netflix subscription, you're just ensuring that I can really focus on the party

and also use the spare capital that I have to grow infrared.

Um,

um,

and I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, you guys, you know, but if you can, if

it's, if it is something you can

do, and you do believe in this vision

specifically,

if you do believe in the infrared

pipeline to the ACP, then it's something we should do.

It's something you should do, frankly.

But I'm not going to compel that institutionally.

I'm not going to force you to adopt that position.

If you somehow think that the infrared vision isn't important for this party anymore, and you somehow, you know, don't think I'm

a good fit for where I am at the party.

You have the right to have that position, by the way.

I never attached the...

I never tattooed my face

on the American Communist Party, by the way.

I've never done that.

And I never will do that.

I don't want to lead you except on the basis of you having faith in me.

Nothing else.

That's the only kind of relationship I want to you guys.

Just based on faith

nothing else

and if I lose that and I don't earn that

on your part

I won't demand it

I won't compel it

but I will always believe

what I believe that's the other thing I want you

to understand I will always believe in I believe. That's the other thing I want you to understand. I will always

believe in this vision. I will always believe in what I see. I will always fucking believe in the

thing that I'm literally thinking about 24 hours of fucking day, including when I'm fucking asleep,

because it's all I can fucking dream about.

And if I can't fucking dream about, I'll be wide awake, like the insomniac that I am,

thinking over and over about the same fucking thing.

I know, I did five to the war chest one movement.

Oh job.

One party.

One vision.

You know how fucking rude I am to Normies in my life?

What little Normies I have in my life that I interact with.

Do you know how many, I hate it, I hate saying this, but do you want to know how many times? You want to know how many times?

You want to know how many times I've had a significant other, a girlfriend, be like,

Haas, come come back where are you

where are you

and I'm like

stop I have to

complete this

fucking cycle in my

head

I have to

complete the word

in my head

I have to

complete this

fucking

the shape of

the conviction

that I have

in my

fucking heart

and I have

to focus on it and fucking meditate, and you are clouding my space and you're fucking like, you're not letting me focus. I have to always, the only time I can loosen up and be a normal fucking person is when I'm locked the fuck in and I'm

tuned in with the vision. Whenever I'm not tuned in and tuning in with the vision, I have to wake up

and fucking do that every fucking day. Every time a Muslim tells me, Haas, why don't you pray? Why don't

you fucking pray? I do fucking

pray. Every fuck, the

focus that I dedicate to this cause

that I believe in with

every fiber of my being

takes more energy in time than

Islamic prayer five times a day would.

Because it occupies, like, I can't even think properly or do anything normal until I've unlocked the vision.

And like, I don't know how to fucking explain it,

but it's an intense type of meditation and focus

where I accomplish and I fulfill... the adequate shape of what I regard

it's like we know the thing where you have to think of

and describe an apple in your head and most people can't fucking do that.

Long guy, what's up?

The thing that I give form to in my head that I

think about

is

an abstract

narrative structure. Not a

fantasy, not a specific narrative, just the pure and distilled abstract narrative structure of communism, of

the revolution, of all

world history, of the thing that I believe

in.

And it's like the reason I'm so fucking harsh on people and I'm so quick to call shit ugly and retarded is because if I don't have an intense focus on the beautiful, the good, the just, continuously, every waking moment of my life,

I can't even take my first step and walk. I can't even fucking do anything because I have nothing to live for at that point.

Do you guys want to know what compels me and motivates me? It's actually quite selfish why I'm doing what I'm doing. I want to expend less effort doing this. I want to wake up one day and

have the thing that compels me to move forward reflected back upon me a little bit

in the world that surrounds me such that I don't have to fucking spend so much of my mental energy

giving form and shape to it.

I want this vision to proliferate and to spread.

So I have to dedicate less energy to focusing on it.

And I'm sure 99% of you are in the same

fucking boat, which is why you badger

and attack all the infidels and

faithless retards

who contradict

our truth.

Why Why do you do that? Why do you argue with people?

That's how what's up? Because when you fucking wake up, when you wake up and you look shoulder to shoulder and you look around you, and you see the stupid, retarded wrong shit people are saying, they have then forced you to retrace the very steps that led you to your own position.

And what did they do? They made you waste your own position. And what did they do?

They made you waste your fucking time.

That's what they made you do. uh the one possible flaw of the dues plan is the reliance of an already existing community in order to jumpstart the independence to get more growth.

Seems like a chicken and egg thing.

Is there no way to divide up responsibilities even temporarily to jumpstart the growth?

Well, maybe there could be, but that would come at two costs.

Cost one is that it would take away energy that's put into the party, including the media that the party produces.

And it could potentially even take away from party activity. I don't want that to happen.

And the second problem is that how could people sustainably do that at the necessary

pace at which it needs to be done

without any kind of compensation?

I'm talking about daily clips.

I'm talking about a barrage of content.

I'm talking about, like, uploads at least multiple times a week, if not every single day.

That's the level of volume that I think is necessary

to fucking get this shit off the ground, right?

I don't see how we could do that

without using money that infrared generates to put it in to put into that um there's a way you could get crowd investment into your patreon and your youtube um that's true

if it's i'm just saying yeah i, I don't know.

Yeah, the Patreon would be the same thing as the sustainer dues.

It would literally be the same thing.

But in that case, the revenue from the Patreon would not be put back into infrared.

That's a good point, though.

That's an interesting point, actually.

I think the reason I would, I'm kind of emphasizing more of the party, making it voluntary, is because this is not just paying for more infrared content. It's allowing me to focus more on the party,

while also being able to grow infrared without having to be on kick that's the two birds with one stone it solves so it's, if this were to go through

and it were to work,

then what would happen is

I would just,

from now on,

stream on Twitch

or stream on YouTube.

I would be fucking done with kick

because I genuinely believe that the growth

of the live streams on kick is not possible anymore.

I can't grow on this fucking platform.

I've been on kick for two years,

and it's been stagnation.

I've been on kick just because of the...

just to be able to fucking...

This is why I'm saying this.

You want to know why I've been on kick for two years,

so I can be the chairman of the ACP full time. That's why. But now we're getting to a point where the

stagnation is turning into falling the fuck off.

Now

infrared is

being neglected.

Now the

YouTube is

being

neglected.

And it's like

I would

love to just

go back to

YouTube

but if I

go back to

YouTube, I can't do ACP full-time.

I can't be chairman of the ACP full-time and go on YouTube, right?

Did we talk about YouTube cross-streaming?

Once again,

once again,

once again,

dividing up the viewership is how you fucking fuck and kill yourself in the algorithm.

Okay?

When you divide the viewership and I have

100 people watching me on each platform,

there's not enough juice to get off

the fucking ground. And multi-streaming is just

never been something I've ever wanted to do at the current level of viewership that I'm at. One, if you're glad I had this frank conversation with you

in on this format in this medium rather than doing it like in member because I was thinking of doing it in member announcements and I'm like why the fuck when I just say it live like it's not like I'm ashamed to say any of this to the world and to the public.

I'm really not.

It's just a very frank and honest reality of where I'm fucking at.

That fucking disgusting fuck who's like, oh, Haas just did ACP

so he could grow his own fucking social

media brand

I hope whoever says this literally

fucking dies I literally hope they

fucking die because it's

the most disgusting hideously

false thing in Because it's the most disgusting, hideously...

False thing in the fucking world.

There is nothing that has led to the stagnation and negligence of infrared, more than the fact that I have become chairman of the ACP.

Even my fucking telegram has fallen the fuck off.

ACP telegram, every time I post in the ACP telegram that I'm live,

10 fucking people leave.

And I'm like, holy shit.

But now I'm at a point where I realize something.

I'm looking at the two years since the launch of the ACP,

and I'm like,

was it a good decision to neglect infrared? No, it fucking wasn't. All this shit because I was self-conscious about how trashy streaming is and I wanted to be professional and all the, oh, you're a good,

shut the fuck up and literally

fucking suck my nuts.

This is the world we fucking live in.

There would be no 2036 movement

without infrared.

That wouldn't have even fucking happened.

2036 didn't come out of fucking

some chungis movement in the fucking CPUSA.

That was a fucking infrared strategy.

Why the fuck was it a good call to neglect the fucking thing that gave juice?

Division.

That was not a good. That was not a good...

That was not good.

That was bullshit.

All of you have gone along with it for years.

Sometimes I see OG guerrillas in the ACP

who have drank the wholesome

Kool-Aid

and they've changed.

You went from the Salties

platoon to fucking SpongeBob.

Because

you yourself bought this

Kool-Aid that I myself was drinking

and you started drinking it too

and then you forgot about

where the real fucking juice came from.

We all fucking forgot.

We've all been fucking gaslit.

No, the era that we live in, it's

full steam ahead for the terminally online, chronically online shit.

Full steam, fucking ahead. Full steam ahead

on the fucking meme warfare. Full steam ahead on the fucking infrared

renaissance.

Buzois professionalism is dead.

Wholesomeness is dead the wholesome offline

reality is dead

it's dead

people in small chapters

frankly tell me

how's how do we grow our chapter?

Well, you want to know how your chapter is going to

fucking grow. If infrared

grows three to five times bigger than

it is now, you're going to have

three to five times many people in your

fucking chapter. Probably more

exponentially, actually. the more this shit grows

the more the cult grows the more the party grows and by the way the people who join the party

outside of midern Marx, outside of infrared, the people who join the party, just because they want to be neutral communists, are not loyal to us.

I hate to say it.

As a mass, it's not a reliable base.

You can flip over backward, convincing everyone how wholesome we are and how non-problematic

we are.

But when shit gets real and the going gets tough, they're going to try to

fuck us because they're not fucking loyal.

That's my wisdom I have to you as chairman of this party.

This is my wisdom to you.

This is my vantage point.

This is my perspective.

This is what I want to share with you. You know, We need to have the vision, guys. We need to...

We can't just be like, oh, yeah.

I mean, look, when people...

When we're trying to tell ourselves what we are, we just say,

we're just the American socialist.

It's like, well... No, we're just the American socialist. It's like, well,

no, we're not.

We're something much more than that.

We have a vision.

There's a North Star that's guiding this. There's a

red star guiding this.

And we can

larp as communists

from the 20th century

as 20th century

socialism is getting

brutalized and dissolved.

Or we can take a fucking risk

and say all in, all in on the fucking vision beyond the visible

spectrum.

All in on seeing beyond the visible spectrum.

All in on 2036. All in on this comprehensive syndrome for the fucking CPUSA.

Fuck the CP USA.

Which became D. USA, which became degenerate and revisionist, even as soon as Khrushchev and his fat-ass secret speech,

fuck all this imposter syndrome bullshit.

Fuck all this LARP trying to be a Chungus communist.

We are

Mongol communists.

And for all the people that call us

fascists and all this shit. You tell them you're part of the Haas mujahadine, bitch.

Don't, who gives a fuck what anyone says?

You're part of the Haas Mujahideen.

You tell them, suck my fucking nuts.

Your cookie cutter bullshit hasn't gotten us anywhere.

Fuck you.

Kill yourself.

You're not real. What is the real communist?

You're not a real con.

Where are the real communists?

What is the real communists?

All we have is the past.

We have the past and we have China.

China's not interested in a

revolutionary movement in America. They're not.

They don't care.

So we have the past and we have China. What else do we have? No, I'm here for the future. I'm here for the future. I'm here for

the thing that has never had any precedent and has never existed before anywhere.

They're not real communist. Oh, you're a real communist. Where are your fucking results?

I used to hold for months and for years I've held myself to the standard

of the PSL.

Fuck that.

Fuck that.

Why the fuck do we not have 10,000

fucking people? Why the fuck are we not a

fucking giant mega force

in this country by now.

Why the fuck are our ambitions?

Well, we're being a communist in America.

Hey, fuck you.

We're supposed to be different.

Why should our ambitions not be just as worthy as the faith and dedication we have in our heart for what this shit needs to be? there's not a single force we can overcome

every single gorilla in this party can fucking

steamroll any fucking right wingwing opponent in the debate.

All you need is RTSG by your side, and you can fucking destroy anyone. Name a single person who could go to toe to a Volkvulture and survive.

Name a single person.

Name a single person. Thank you. 100,000 words.

100,000 words. 100,000 words. you know this is the only movement whose terms and conditions are, I believe.

You don't have to justify yourself to anyone.

You don't have to prove anything to anyone.

If any other ideologist

comes to you and says, what's your proof?

Where are you? I believe.

Isn't that enough?

Well, what if someone believes in something else?

Measure your faith with mine.

Measure it with mine.

It's not even 1%.

What if someone believes in something else do they do they actually just have that purity of belief

or are they assuming that well based on the facts and statistics they don't have belief they're

infidels they don't fucking belief, they're infidels. They don't fucking believe.

Even the religious LARPers, they don't believe.

Well, I think that I'm going to go to hell if I don't think it.

I will fucking live in hellfire for infrared, if that's what it fucking takes.

Because I believe, and I have

nothing else. Just belief.

What is the shape of

pure belief itself? That's the question

I set about to try and resolve.

Oh, space aliens, you don't have to believe in any of that shit.

But to be a dignified fucking human being, you do have to believe in communism.

You do have to believe there are zero fucking excuses whatsoever for the corruption, the degeneracy,

the immorality, the dishonor that prevails in the so-called civilization that we live in now. You're a bunch of Nazis and you're a fucking fascist and you're a bunch of Nazis

and you're a fucking fascist and you're a...

You don't even have the words to describe what the fuck we are. That's the truth.

Sure, you can call us communists but clearly you're confused

about what that word means so the truth is these people don't even have the word to describe what

the fuck we are i admit that plainly they've tried to say larush they've tried to pin it all on dougain they've tried to say LaRouche. They've tried to pin it all on Dugan. They've

tried to say something else. The truth is they don't even have the word. They don't have the

signifier. Why? Because that word exists where the empty, infidel hole in their heart is supposed to be.

The word for what we are exists

where the faithless hole in their heart is.

Of course they don't know what the fucking word is.

They're infidels.

They lack conviction.

They lack faith.

They lack guidance.

They lack certainty in the meaningfulness of the world.

Not the content of pure force the right

doesn't have any arguments they They just challenge us. They just tell us, you know, we're going to kill you. Okay. Should we be afraid of the right?

Should we be compelled by leftist?

Should we be afraid of the right?

How can you be afraid of anything if you have faith in your heart?

How can you be afraid of anything?

What are you fucking afraid of?

You know, you know what it is? It's airplanes. Is how you know if you're on some real ass shit. Sometimes when I'm on an airplane, I think to myself, I'm like, fuck, if this shit crashes, maybe I should say a prayer.

If this shit crashes and I look down and, you know, you're on a plane, maybe it's going to crash.

You know, it's got that turbulence.

It's rocking. to crash you know it's got that turbulence it's rocking so you know around two years ago or something a year

started just kind of thinking to myself i'm like if if i die this way that's just the shape of the cosmos

I accept it

I have faith

if I die this way I have faith

when I was in Donbass

and they were shooting all these guns

and there was this RPG stuff.

I was like, you know, the RPG can malfunction and explode.

I might just fucking die.

But then I just think and I go, and what?

So what if I do?

Is that what if I do? Is that, what if I do?

That's the outcome that I believe in.

Whatever outcome is necessary and inevitable, it's the one I believe in.

Why should I be afraid of any kind of outcome?

If you have faith, if you trust the cosmos, if you have faith in it?

You got to put yourself in some kind of condition where you think there's a reasonable expectation you might die

and then you just got to be like

I don't even need religion

to be fearless. That's the true. That's the scary

fucking thing. I don't even need religion

to be fearless.

I'm like, now I understand how those people in the Soviet state and in the army, how they would

rush into battle, not giving a fuck, because they believed in dialectical materialism, because they understood there's a rational

relationship between the inputs and outputs that define reality.

You don't even need religion to be fearless.

That's the truth. Thank you. You know, It's you know i was a little blackbilled and i thought maybe it's impossible to have a mass

movement based on faith maybe it's actually maybe you just need the 300 Spartans.

You know, they say in the Shia, what do you call it, eschatology, they say that in the army of Jesus or the Medi when they return, there's just going to be 3-13 people, that's it.

Or was it, there were only 3-1-3 people in the ranks of Hussein's army?

That's it, 3-1-3.

Maybe that's the number that I'm stuck on,

but at this point, I don't believe that.

I believe that infrared can become something giant.

And that will provoke something interesting to happen.

I will get assassinated.

I'll get killed.

Some crazy-ass shit will pop off.

But it just needs to fucking happen.

Like, we got one shot.

We got to make it fucking happen

because at the current

fucking pace

shit is not sustainable

now I want you to understand and think about that Jackson can grow to millions and millions of followers

but if I grow to 100,000 on YouTube if I grow to 500,000 on YouTube, $1 million,

if infrared grows,

I should say.

Imagine IGG 10 times larger than it is.

Tell me that's not a national crisis.

Tell me that's not the League of Shadows situation.

Tell me that's not national news media talking about the rise of something really fucking scary and fucking threatening to the system.

We caused all the trouble that we have for the past two or three years because of 300 Spartans.

We had Donald Danny.

What the fuck was that guy's name on CNN?

They did a whole CNN documentary about Charmhole because of the trouble y'all caused that 300.

The whole Maga Communism thing. The CNN did a whole fucking documentary on that because of the trouble caused by your loud voices.

Imagine if there was 10 times more of you.

Imagine if this army really fucking grew, really

fucking expanded.

Something interesting.

I mean, I put it off because it's scary

to fucking think about.

They would never let that happen.

But we have to at least see how they would react and respond.

And at this point, I don't even give a fuck what happens to me.

It was... I don't even give a fuck what happens to me. If this message breaks through to the mainstream, even a little bit, we will have secured a place in eternity.

I will have completed my mission, I think.

Sometimes I say I'll have completed my mission when I write enough books.

No.

You read and

you read it and you don't quite get it

because there's two components when you read something.

There's the text and there's how does that tap into your feeling?

What do you feel when you read it?

You know, like what sensibility does that...

Pre-existing sensibility is that tap into?

And it's like,

you don't even have that sensibility

because you don't even

have the eyes to see the world in the way that it is.

That's just the truth.

Like, I think about Nick Land and his text.

It's like, it's easy to read about Nick Land and be like, oh, my God, I understand.

But that's because he's just tapping into a kind of nihilism that we all take for granted by default, I think.

Forget the book.

I can't forget about the book because I've fallen in love with the book.

Because I love the book, actually.

I actually fucking love it.

But I have no way of knowing that other people are going to love it in the same way that I love it.

So maybe like 99% of my other writings, I should just keep it to myself.

And maybe the thing that I should deliver to you is not that.

Maybe I shouldn't focus on that.

Maybe I should focus on... The movement, you know?

You want the book?

Look, I'll tell you this.

If infrared expands and becomes a well-oiled machine that is continuously rising, why did we forget about that fucking slogan, infrared is rising?

Infrared always has to be rising, not stagnating. We have to be rising all the fucking time.

If we get a well-oiled machine going where infrared is rising, I can fully dedicate myself to the party.

I will have the free time to where I have spaces of free time.

Just get the fucking book finished. I'll have that ability.

But when I'm dealing with a million fucking different things at once, it's not possible.

The infrared artificial intelligence needs to be launched we need to become a well-oiled machine

a multimedia content machine is there a time limit for this proposal no no i'm telling you this

again i'm telling you this because um i'm telling you to you now because i don't know

i'm just telling you it's not sustainable

maybe maybe the national congress is the timetable know, because I would never step down from the party in terms of the office I now occupy before, you know, we were able to sit down or something like that. I would never do that.

And I would never abandon the party ever.

I'll always be dedicated and devoted to this party.

But what I need to think about is how can I serve this party the best?

And... and um i have a vision forward for the party for sure but the vision that i have includes the

infrared pipeline which is the thing that I know when I have confidence in.

And I'm speaking for myself

when I say that.

That's the thing I have confidence in.

This community, this level of loyalty,

this level of faith, this level of dedication.

This thing we have going is the thing that I consider the most important, foundationally, you know but I but I can't keep neglecting infrared in the way that I've neglected I just that's what I'm trying to tell you guys I can't do that.

We tried to do, we tried to launch a podcast with the Metal Gear Red and we tried doing, it's not possible, you know, because even if we did that on a weekly basis

and tried to grow the party like that

it's like what's the central vision though

you know

what are the there are more

discursive barriers that need to be broken continuously.

And only infrared can break them. Metal Gear Red was just the seven people in the EB just fucking talking.

Like that's all it was.

And it's like that's not going to replace the multimedia empire that needs to turbocharge

the party.

I'm an Iskrist. I've always been in Iskrist, you know?

I've been noticing a lot of new names in the Discord.

Um,

I get that.

But,

you know,

our Discord only has 4,400 people.

I don't know when it's, how long it's been stuck there, but it's like, we have not,

we're not as big as we need to be.

We're just not.

We need to hold ourselves to a higher standard.

The Nick Fuentes movement has 10 years on us.

They have 10 years on us, okay?

I understand that.

Not 10 years.

They have about six years head start, right?

No more excuses.

Let's get it.

Let's break through to the mainstream.

Midwestern Marx does pretty well on social media.

I know he does.

I'm aware of that.

But I can't emulate what Eddie does.

Because I'm not presenting the same thing that Eddie is. What Eddie's doing is indispensable for us.

But what I'm doing, I also consider indispensable for the movement.

And I can't neglect that.

I've always been focused on...

I've always taken for granted the canon and tradition of Marxism-Leninism.

The great thing about Eddie and Midwestern Marx is they didn't take it for granted. They organized it. They attended to it and they presented it to people. And it's like that's important as a pipeline. But I've always been focused on leapfrogging ahead into the future, just taking an Olympic leap into the new vision.

To the point where there is no dogma I'm afraid to challenge or break.

And there's nothing I'm afraid of rethinking fundamentally, you know?

So, um... You know, I want to make a self-criticism, and then I'll, I can do some TikTok debates,

but before then I want to make a self-criticism, if you guys are ready.

And I want you guys to... I know I'm always contradicting myself sometimes.

And like, I want you guys to hold me to this.

Because I do think something fundamental was lost.

There was a magic spark at the launch of infrared at the inception that I've lost.

Here's my self-criticism.

I've become snobbish,

aristocratic,

and cynical.

I, as the

forward-facing leader of infrared

lost faith

in the ability for this movement to reach the masses.

I dismissed all of the people whose attention is going elsewhere.

I said, you know, I thought they're all stupid.

They're all whatever.

They're useless.

I said, all we need is what we have.

But there's a lot of people we need to be reaching that we aren't.

And the fact that I haven't been able to reach them is a fact that infrared has been neglecting its duty and its obligations, that were at the inception of its founding.

The mission in some sense has been neglected and abandoned and replaced with cynicism.

Oh, you know, these people are all brain-rotted.

They're all stupid.

They just want to watch Kai Sinat and they just want to watch something else.

Screw them.

What is this, if not some chud-like arrogance?

The truth is,

there's no excuse for why we shouldn't be

popping off.

There's no excuse

for why infrared

should not be rising.

And that's my self-criticism I always thought maybe I've said what I need to say at this point. There's nothing I can do. Well, that's not true. That's not true. We need to be less gatekeepers. We need to have more of an ability and confidence that we need to reach more people.

If I stood up, you got banned, it was outside your control.

Correct.

I did get banned from many platforms.

And that was a contributing factor to my cynicism.

But now we live in an age where you can't ban a symbol.

Hasbola is banned from everything, but their symbols are everywhere.

We need to create a movement such that even if I'm banned, God forbid, even if I'm killed,

this symbol will live on and everyone will know what it fucking means that's what this needs to be we live in an age of we live in a multi-platform age where you can try to ban someone as much as you want, but there's

clips of them that are still going to go viral on Instagram, on TikTok, somewhere else, because

it's not even centralized, because the message isn't centralized.

And I want this message to get decentralized. That's always been my dream

for this movement. The decentralization of the infrared message so that it fucking proliferates

everywhere like a virus. Reach a thousand subs.

Are you going to start streaming on YouTube now?

I could try to do that tomorrow.

YouTube tomorrow, I could try that

but as much

as I want to

be committed

to this

infrared

renaissance

I

simultaneously

have to

tell you

that

it's not sustainable the way it is now.

I'm going to be honest, guys, if my party supported me to to have this vision implemented purely on the basis of faith

I would be so proud of that I would actually be very proud of how I earn a living.

If one day we woke up and said,

okay, guys, you have to pay dues now so you can put me on a fucking salary,

I'd be disgusted with myself.

But if it was just based on the faith that you have and it was purely voluntary, I would be

extremely fucking proud of what I'm doing.

Because I live for the faith you guys give to me already.

Do you understand?

Even if money didn't exist,

I want to know that I have your guys confidence.

Let's say we're in an age where there was no money at all.

Would you still follow me?

If we were in the fucking wilderness

in the step, we were riding horses,

we had nothing but what we could carry

on our fucking backs.

Would you follow me?

We would be able to be. would you follow me would you be in this horde with me this horde

this army

we had nothing but what we could carry on our backs

that's what I fucking live for but what we could carry on our backs.

That's what I fucking live for.

That's why I'm fucking here.

Whatever's within you that compels you to say,

this is who I'm going to follow,

this is the movement I'm going to be with, this is the cause that I'm going to follow. This is the movement I'm going to be with.

This is the cause that I'm going to fight for.

Every single fucking day, that's the only thing I live for.

And there's no amount of money in the fucking world that could replace it.

And if I didn't have that, if I didn't have that from you, I would never, ever, ever even think about accepting even $1 from you. And if you can't give me a dollar but you give me that just know the thing you're giving me

me is invaluable there's no price tag i would if a billionaire came and told me hey replace that

faith in devotion for a billion dollars, I'd say, fuck you.

Because it's invaluable.

There's nothing in the world I would rather have more.

Because if I had nothing at all, that faith is all i would have nothing else so the fact that

there's others the fact that there's others who would follow me when there's nothing that's

invaluable to me that's the thing i'm nothing, that's invaluable to me.

That's the thing I'm chasing after.

That's the thing I'm trying to magnify. You know, doing more ir ls shit would help well look guys if you if you if we go through with the strategy I just told you about and there's that bedrock of support from the party, I can travel at least once a month domestically to see a new chapter every month.

No problem.

I would have all the anxiety about I have to stream on kick today.

I have to...

That would disappear.

The only thing I would be doing, I just bring my laptop and I would just upload videos to the YouTube and it's like, no problem. Which is what Jackson does, you know? I would have so much more flexibility in terms of my schedule to just not have to be bound to this desk to do streams on kick, you know.

Because whenever I travel to a chapter, there's always one thing on my mind. It doesn't matter what day of the week I'm traveling. I have to skip my streams for that week. If I go to Texas or California or New York or anywhere in the country, it's like, okay, I could spend some of the money that I have for a plane ticket, perhaps. Just forget about the money issue. It's like, but can I afford to skip this many streams? Can I afford to skip a stream?

Or can I afford to skip

two streams or three streams?

And it's like,

no, I can't.

On the other hand, if I

am constantly pumping out content

and I'm paying people to constantly pump out content.

Because I don't know if you guys fucking know this, but we have a backlog.

Once if you fucking understand, like we have a backlog of content from the hundreds of hours of streaming I've done just for the past two years alone.

Golden fucking content.

You have no idea how much is in the backlog that would go so fucking viral if it was just...

I literally see infrared gorilla clippers, whatever they can do here.

Sometimes they go viral randomly.

And they're not even being paid.

And it's not even intentional.

It's not even strategic.

We have such a fucking backlog.

I'll donate 20 subs if you watched,

if you react to the Dune 3 trailer.

Okay.

I mean, good deal.

I mean, I could just do that anyway, but sure, if you insist.

Because I haven't actually...

Because believe it or not, I haven't actually watched the trailer.

Because believe it or not, I haven't had any fucking time.

Um... I haven't had any fucking time.

Where do you watch the lost kickstream?

Well, somebody has them archived,

and they're on a rumble somewhere,

but there's such a backlog of content.

You have no idea.

If I could have a team where I just take a Vod and I give them the timestamps and I just like, this is what I want you to make it about.

They just upload it.

It's like, bam, every single

day we

upload it.

I mean,

YouTube ad revenue alone,

if that gets to a certain level, then anything I'm taking I would ever take from the party, I could just give back to the party and just, I'd be good.

And I could even give more to the party than I have now, you know?

But I don't know.

That's even a secondary consideration. The most important thing is we get the growth, the volume of people tuned into infrared and the infrared vision.

We have such a backlog of content that's been neglected.

18 U.S. Code 871 treason.

Is Atlas Freeman, the guy that got triggered by the idea that we said someone in the in the IGG discord was like yeah if we took power we're going to dismantle the white house and then he just crashed out and fucking

like freaked out he's like no everyone loves the white house the white house is sacred it's like, no, everyone loves the White House. The White House is sacred. It's like,

of all the things to fucking crash out about.

And then I kind of took it. I'm like, you know what? Fuck the White House.

When we take power, we're building a red yurt in the Rockies.

And that's replacing the White House fully.

So Atlas Freeman, I'm looking at you directly.

I'm looking at you directly. I'm looking at you directly.

Tartaria code 174.

If you insult the red yurt, your head is chopped off in 20 years when we take power. Legally, it'll be legal,

fully legal, because we will be in control of the state as the sovereign. If you tarteria code

and do that little symbol that you gave to me to have intimidation and authority.

You're trying to project authority and intimidate me with that little squiggly line symbol, U.S. Code whatever.

Tartaria, squiggly line, code 170.

If you... squiggly line code 170 if you insult the red yurt or claim the red yurt is beneath the white house you are pulled apart by horses that's

tartaria code

you bet your ass

I'm a fed

I'm here to destroy you

are you the guy from the airport

or some shit

like are you literally like a

the T S

are you like a customs agent

or something that I've met before?

Like, why...

Who the fuck are you, dude?

Calm the fuck down.

Tartaria Code 170.

Whoever insults the red yurts, they'll be drawn and quartered.

It, when we take power legally, if this is law.

I'm here to destroy you. You're here

to destroy me, buddy? Get in fucking line.

I'm flattered. You want to destroy me over the

fucking... The poop house?

The poop house. The poop house.

The White House, more like the poop house.

How does it make you feel that I call it the poop house?

Answer me.

Atlas Freeman.

How does it make you feel that i call the sacred white house the poop

house what are you going to do about it how does it make you feel how does that make you feel

i'm waiting for your response atlas friedman, I'm talking directly to you.

I'm looking directly at you addressing you personally.

How does it make you feel that I'm calling the White House, the poop house?

I have a better one.

Not the White House.

The Shart House.

How does it make you feel I'm calling it the Shart House?

Treason threat...

I've never made a threat against the president.

I've never made a threat against the president.

I'm talking about when we are in power

because of a democratic election and an amendment to the U.S. Constitution that says we're becoming

Tartaria, which will happen in 20 years, and the White House will transfer to the red year. It'll all be legal.

Rokana will sign it into law. Congress will agree to it. Paul Ryan, who is the Speaker under

Obama, will oversee the proceedings and it'll all be a completely

democratic process of the transfer of the white house to the red yurt and the white house

will be democratically signed into demolition as an extension it'll be an executive order act by the, you know, the USA will be democratically dissolved into the Tartarian Empire.

So what is your response?

This is all legal.

This is all happening legally.

What is your response, Alice Freeman?

What are you going to do?

Like, what's your response?

The Shart House will no longer be the seat of power.

And I'm calling it Chart House. Get in VC

if you have a problem with me calling it the Shart House.

It will not become a museum.

Probably won't.

It's such a stupid, small, ugly house, actually. Can I say, I think the White House is ugly and stupid. I went there and visited it when I went on Tim Poole. I wanted to visit D.C. First of all, can I say because I wasn't allowed to be, you knowgy or anti-Semitic before but now I can be because we all are now

the Washington DC is like the most goy-coded like

Disney-fied

like fake

Goy Capital of the world

it's like such a fake like amusement

park for Goyim

it's like you could just you just

you just reads like this is some kind of like

Zionist

fake world

and I looked at the stupid

white house which was so small

and pathetic

this was in 23

and I was like this stupid

small house I've seen homes much bigger than this that were middle class homes, that were bigger than the White House.

I said, I always thought the White House was grand and big and magnificent, but it's a tiny, stupid house.

And some people find it endearing. They find the kind of, you know, Maryland, endearing Bill Gates

and a tiny little house,

I find it fucking stupid.

If it's the capital

of the country

is the seat of power,

it needs to be like

the Kremlin.

It needs to be like a

grand palace.

It needs to be like

something magnificent.

Nobody has to live there even.

I don't even think anyone should live there.

You know, the president or the leader, the commander,

fine, have them live in a modest place.

But the symbol of the power should be magnificent.

Like, you know

the monument, the Soviets were going to build?

The palace of the Soviets.

I wish they had built the palace

of the Soviets.

It was one of the most magnificent, beautiful ideas ever.

They were going to build this, the Palace of the Soviets.

400 and...

Oh, it's on Reddit. Disgusting.

Can I get this image off Reddit?

No, I can't.

All right.

You see, this should be the monument to the power, the symbol of the power. Okay.

Why did they not build it? It would have been a beautiful. I mean, look how grand,

500 meters tall. I mean, you got to look and zoom in. Imagine walking here, looking up, and it's just the power.

The power. The red yurt will kind of be like this, but three times larger.

Red yurt will be three times larger

than this.

But it should have been built.

And the puny stupid

white... This is the Arlington,

not Arlington.

What is the CIA headquarters?

Langley, Virginia, kind of like, well, I'm just Stephen King.

I live in a small, modest house.

Fuck you, Stephen King, you fucking weird pedophile.

I don't like any of that shit.

I don't like this stupid, like, well, the White House is just going to be a small house.

Stop, you pathetic, lying bitch.

This is some lie for the public.

Meanwhile, it's this unlimited power and control that's imposed on us.

It's not modest at all.

All right.

All right.

One's if you want me to watch the Dune 3 trailer

before we get into the debates.

All right, we're going to watch it right now together.

When does this movie come out?

Doesn't it come out like in two days?

Is this the right one?

If we have a girl, what will we name her?

Her name should be Gineva.

I'm not trying to attack the movie already, but that's an ugly-ass name.

Sorry. You need to be strong.

Like her mother

ghanima god help that child ganyma

senals this also a stupid-ass name, but whatever.

So you would have the wisdom of his grandfather.

You will be hung if you make the... Then hang me, bitch!

What threats did I make?

What threat did I make, you fucking weird fuck?

You will be hanged.

What threat did I make?

I'm watching this trailer. I'm sorry. And then I hear Ganyima and then this guy tells me he's going to hang me.

War feeds on itself.

The malashv, who di Elisneed,

who Elisne, Elisne, Elisne O diehlish knee

O diehl

Della

Dique

I'm not

Dique

The more I fight

The more enemies

Fight back

I'm

Dhabition

Josh

I give

D Deltis I'm not going to lie.

I'm doing the best I can to protect my family.

The malaylis to be elizki, you're going to be elizki, you'll The uniforms are kind of infrared do it do it.

The uniforms are kind of infrared-coded a little bit.

How did father do it?

Your father.

But don't come, don't, I mean, who is Timothy in this case?

Because don't compare me to this Timothy chat.

I don't like this guy at all.

You know there's a guy in Dune who looked just like me and Jackson thought it was me?

For some reason he looked exactly like me.

Jackson claimed,

like,

bro, were you in the movie?

He looked exactly like you.

And it was one of those

background characters,

but I remember seeing it,

I was like,

what the fuck?

And it wasn't even

one of the main characters.

It was one random scene it was like one

split second where they had one of the guys and he does look exactly like me for some reason

it was the weirdest most uncanny thing in the world. Definitely part of the infrared

When this

When there's a buzz around it

We're going to channel the buzz and the hype and meme the fuck out of it, infrared coded.

We're going to definitely like, we got to be ready for that, by the way. Be ready to, like, hijack the buzz and the discourse about the movie to, to, like like make memes about infrared and shit but I must not die

yet Barbarians versus the...

Yeah, it's pretty based.

And the books are really based.

It's pretty based.

But, um...

No, it looks pretty good.

All right, let's, um... let's start the Tic Tac.

Ones if you want Tick-Tac debates.

Let's start the Tick-Tac debates. You know, Thank you. Lost in thought. Don't mind me. I'm just lost in thought.

Don't mind me. I'm just lost in thought. You're sure. What's up, man. Appreciate you. What a good deal.

All right.

Yeah, I actually surprised you came through with that. I actually thought you were trolling.

I didn't think you were actually going to come through on that. I appreciate you, man.

All right.

All right. We have to enable the webcam.

All right. Started.

All right. And this should work.

All right, this needs to be flipped.

All right, we're good. I'm titling it leftists and rightists are garbage. You know, Someone named Liam wants to join.

Got to talk in the chat first the dude's got 28 followers.

What do you want?

Liam, what do you want?

What makes you worthy of coming on the broadcast?

What do you want?

Debate about what?

About communism. Okay, we'll see.

Go ahead.

Go ahead. go ahead

Liam prepares to do the conversation

so I don't like communism

because

because

Liam takes a deep breath

I don't like communism

because equate dictatorships

and the dictatorships

are bad.

All right, why are they bad?

Liam, thanks. All right, why are they bad? Liam, thanks.

All right, as soon as someone said TPAH,

I knew it was true philosophy right away, bro, you got caught.

No, you got caught, though.

Okay, good shit, good shit.

There you go, now I got Liam.

The game was given away.

I took it from Dean.

He got a troll called Liam.

It did that.

Just make a voice alteration thing next time, right?

You got to, I keep telling you got to have a voice modulator.

Your ways, like, it's a dead giveaway every time.

It's such a dead giveaway every time it's a dead it's such a dead giveaway

it's such a dead giveaway

go ahead how you doing house uh terribly what's up um yeah i just wanted to come here and say i mean i i kind of agree with you that with you that communism isn't culturally liberal.

But the problem I have is, you know, yes, we should be against this wokeness, this excess of stuff.

Completely agree with you there.

But I don't think the answer is

anti-woke.

Right?

No, the answer is just

doing and saying whatever you want

without caring about how people are going to cry

about it. That's it.

Exactly.

Exactly. I mean, I don't think we should be anti-woke or woke.

I think we should just be neutral on this.

Like, it doesn't matter.

I think we should be in for a woke.

I support infra-woke.

No, but what I'm saying is there are culturally conservative sections of the working class and there are

culturally liberal sections and all them need to become infrowoke in my opinion info woke infra woke

what is that so um

infrovoke it's like a gnaustic awakening

where you are awakened to the revolutionary spark within

and you have infrared vision seeing beyond the visual spectrum

instead of accepting the conventional reality

that institutions tell you about

it's basically the most revolutionary

type of consciousness you can have

is infarwoke

I have a question for you

what do you think about all of the DSA wins tonight?

The what?

The DSA is all excited tonight.

They're all happy and

because they're bitch Mayor Mabani endorsed some people in New York.

Didn't he endorse like some establishment

Democrats too though?

Yes, he did. Right. So it's not really

a win that has all

Well, they think they're

They think they're doing something by winning in these

Deep Blue districts

Like I'd like to see them

try and win in a purple district or red

district. They can't do that. What is a

purple district?

Like a district that's contested

between Democrats and Republicans

one that goes 50-50

but the only

Of course they can't

Because look

It's just a new

It's just a self-congratulatory

You know

Liberals just wait patting themselves on a back

There's not much

To it I was wondering You had a weight patting themselves on a back. There's not much to it.

I was wondering, you had a discussion with Benjamin

Suda Baker, right?

If I did, I don't remember.

I don't even remember.

It was with Mikey.

Mikey Downs

who

it was on his channel

Mikey Downs

what

oh those guys

yeah

the theory guys the theory, yeah. The theory guys.

The theory.

Yeah, underground theory.

Yeah, I remember them.

So I was wondering, what do you think of them, that Chris Catrown kind of scene, milieu?

I don't even

those people

are not

Petron types

the underground

theory people

they're pretty cool

they're like

you know

they're interested

in a lot of

the same

theoretical

stuff that I am but I wouldn't say that they're Catronists.

No, but they are like in, I would say, the same milieu, right?

No, they're just, they're just into the intellectual.

Is Mikey Downs the guy who's he's the bald one with the thick beard

yes

that's the zhejekian guy right

yep that's the jizekian yeah yeah

and he likes nickland i don't know if you, but he's interviewed Nickland a couple of times.

Yeah, I have seen. I've seen. I mean, I don't have a problem with those people.

What do you think about Chris Kertron himself and the sublation milieu?

I don't really agree with Catron about much of anything

But I don't like

I'm not real like I don't

He's got some of the similar positions as you

No I think he's coming from a very different place,

but the way he presents himself

is less dishonest than

most leftists, so it's just

you know.

I mean, but he also

thinks that, you know, we should be that you know we should

be woke that we should be open to

I know but I'm not against

I'm not against woke

I'm against liberal woke

I'm pro-infra-woke

yeah liberal woke

yeah that's what I'm talking about

yeah but infarw woke is what i support

can you explain to us what infra i've never heard of this infer woke it's basically like the

same cult like cancel culture of woke culture but but for base things.

Like what?

Like, if you can give an example, what would it be?

Like, if you're, like, not for Stalin,

if you're not for Mao,

you get canceled as like an infidel basically

what about Doogan

whatever not for him

um

well if you're in for woke then you're just like

a wise person who absorbs

the wisdom and knowledge of all the schools of thought of the entire world and synthesizes them into a cutting edge revolutionary outlook.

And, of course, that includes Dugan.

Well, I haven't heard of it, but it sounds interesting so i'll say but thank you for your time

i really appreciate it thank you appreciate it bye bye like i never said i'm against like we need to be

infra woke infra woke is really based it's like you're infra woke is really based.

It's like you're infra woke.

I like that.

It's very Gnostic.

It's very revolutionary.

It's very...

It's very great. A user, whatever, go ahead.

Go ahead.

Go ahead.

I was here. Go ahead. Can you hear there?

Go ahead.

Yeah, last time you disconnected me, I was a little nervous, so, and I plus I was really tired because of the words, I misspoke a little bit.

I threw out the number about Silicon Valley hiring high philosophers that do in throughout.

So it's not like 40 philosophers, but they cut like, I think, 40% of the technical workforce.

And what, what do you want? I think 40% of the technical workforce. And what do you want?

I think a lot of the problems you're crashing out about

could technically just be like fixed by AI.

Because some of the best I guess

LLMs people have

are just like

all good enough

Um

So I really

Have AI fix it for me

I don't know what

fuck you're talking about Do you remember or so.

That sounds from, I don't... What do you elaborate?

Who is that one? Is that...

I kind of think...

That does sound familiar

the guy on Twitter the guy

on Twitter that debated you like a year ago

I refresh my memory why do people year ago.

Refresh my memory.

Why do people call us Nasbol's?

Because we're just outside

of the visible spectrum of U.S. politics,

and it leads people to associate us with eclectic and contradictory tendencies.

It's the simplest way I could put it.

Like, we are just so infrowoke beyond the visible spectrum that people just like try to pin us down on some the most obscure weird thing in politics which was the I guess the knowledgeable thing Tito go ahead.

Yo, you remember me? Tito, go ahead. Yo.

Do you remember me?

Yeah.

So would you like to continue about Yugoslav politics?

How old are you?

I'm 18.

I don't believe that.

Like what a coincidence.

Oh, yeah.

You just happened to be 18.

You sound very young, right?

Cuban American. Is that like a third position guy? Haas has never worked a physical job.

That's actually wrong.

But you want to know why it would be stupid even if it was correct which it is really stupid

I'm in the gym every single day I probably physically work harder than you do

and we can we can come you know I have the muscles to show for it compared to you so shut the fuck up

it's like a really dumb thing to say

it's a dumb line of attack

someone who has the level of athletic

output that I do it's like

I'm not saying it's the top

in the world I'm just saying it's like

dude

like yes I have worked physical jobs saying it's the top in the world. I'm just saying it's like, dude.

Like, yes, I have worked physical jobs, but it's like at the same time, I'm not a physically inactive person. So, like, why does it even matter?

Like, how? Like have no fee, I have fresh calluses on my hands all the time. I would never dare

claim to offer anyone

leadership, any guidance, I would never ever consider myself fit for the office

of the chairman of the party that I lead. I would never even turn my camera on and talk to anyone

about anything if I wasn't keeping myself, it wasn't challenging myself physically every

single day. If I started just being lazy and sitting around, I'd be so disgusted with myself,

I would never even talk to the world at all. I'd be shut in forever. And I'll just be like a skinny monk or something. I have the confidence

that I do because I'm putting myself to the limit and challenging myself physically at the volume

and output that I am. Thank you. Danor, go ahead.

Hey, what's going on, man?

What's up? Hey, what's going on, man?

What's up?

I don't know if I would consider myself an op on your page.

So if you're just looking to debate, people, I can get down.

But I was just wanting to have a chat.

All right.

I'm glad.

I appreciate the honesty. Oh, my my god the tito guy keeps requesting bro what do you want

well why do you keep why do you keep dodging an argument why do you keep dodging the debate

because you just sound too young that come on that on, that's not an excuse, bro.

I mean, I got some good, I got some good strong points I can make to you.

Okay, what's your point?

So I'd like to comment on that whole Baklava Federation.

Yes.

It's a good idea.

So, why do you think we should unite under this very stereotypical name?

Are you ready for the truth, or are you going to get triggered?

Sure, bro. Bring it on. Are you Serbian get triggered? Sure, bro.

Bring it on. Are you Serbian?

No, I'm not.

What are you?

Do you see the flag in my name?

No.

I'm Bosnian.

All right.

I mean, you'll be less triggered, but you'll probably still be triggered.

All right, go for it then.

I mean, like, are you ready for this, though?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, just throw it.

You're ready.

So, the entirety of the Balkans... just throw it. You're ready.

So the entirety of the Balkans plus the Levant,

that's just Ottoman civilization.

That's all it is.

The fuck. Oh my God. I'm so offended.

That's all it is.

He's a Rwafit pig trying to tell us about her own...

I'm just telling y'all how it is.

That's all out of the civilization.

Yeah, my friends also with me here, so.

I know y'all don't like hearing that, but I'm just telling you that's just the Turkish Empire, the Tartarian Empire, the Turkic Empire.

So the Balkans are just the part of the Ottomans?

Yeah.

Does that include for Lebanon

too?

Yeah, the same civilization.

It's the same thing.

Like the Bacloval.

Well, not all the Balkans are just...

Dancing in a circle,

the kebabs, all the food.

Now, we got our own, we got our own sloppy culture derived from other sloths.

But fuck this nigga talking about Balkan culture is entirely different from the Turks.

It's really not, though. I mean, your capital is Istanbul. about Balkan cultures entirely different from the Turks.

It's really not, though.

I mean, your capital is Istanbul.

It's just the truth.

I know you don't want to hear it.

I'm just telling you the truth.

Your capital is Istanbul.

No, no, no, no. It's definitely in the it's definitely in the

Yugoslavia region

it's pretty sure it's

Istanbul but you all don't want to accept the truth

I mean I'm not a Turk so

I'm more of like an Aryanic

Muhammad

bro you can say whatever you want

You can spin it however you want

But it's just it's all the

It doesn't have to be the Ottomans coming back

But it's like it has to encompass

That scale of territory

Or else it's going to be endless conflict

The only people who could bring order to

the region were the ottomans the ottoman's died couldn't do it austria hungry couldn't do it

prussia couldn't do it so so you're gonna uh failed only the ottomans actually civilized people

you're gonna answer the question of uh what the Ottomans did with Christian boys in the Balkans?

It was bad, but at the same time, the Janissaries were literally the elites of Ottoman society.

You know what they did to Christian boys in the harums?

That's disgusting.

That's awful.

You know, that's...

I mean, that's the same Ottoman Empire

you're pushing for.

But the Slavs were also doing

that kind of weird as...

No.

No, no, no.

Yes, they were looking... No, no no they were the slavs were running around

doing the same nasty as shit this is a type of disgusting backwardness that should be

that sounds a bit stereotypical moment nah it was it was definitely the church shit

listen

you know that's

but that's not the be all end all you can't just dismiss

an entire period of history

because of the most gruesome

evil things that happened during that

yeah the arguments I'm not advocating for a return to some evil things that happened during that.

I'm not advocating for a return to the, to like the,

you know, the pre-modern times

and having those customs and practices.

But I'm talking about what has been

able to unify people across

ethnic and religious

differences the most effectively

let's just be objective. So you mean

like enforcing religion upon

people who don't want to convert?

But how

could they enforce it if a huge portions

of the populations they ruled over?

They forced people to convert because of the taxes.

That's a myth, though, because Jizziah prevented you from being conscripted, and it also prevented you from paying the Islamic taxes,

which when you calculate them are even more than Jizia.

There's a difference between Sakhat as Salkat and Jizya.

Correct.

Zakot and the other one are more expensive than Jizia for non-Muslim tax tax but jizia people who paid jizia didn't have to pay the other ones

well that's because that was a non-muslim tax they don't have to pay the muslim ones if they're not muslin

yeah so i mean honestly when you think about it,

it's like, what's your argument, though? Because, like,

the Muslim tax was more tax

costly than the non-Muslim tax.

You did

bring up

conscription

with tax, right?

You didn't have to fight in the army.

Yeah, that was another thing.

Non-Muslims didn't have to fight in the army.

But they would take Christian boys from wherever they invaded

and then put them in Janissaries and made them loyalists.

Look, that was bad, but that was a Turkish, that was a practice. then put them in Janissaries and made them loyalists.

Look, that was bad, but that was a Turk, that was a practice that the Islamic Empire. I mean, you can't just throw shade on that engine and then just forget about like it ever happened and then just push for the Ottoman Empire.

You're just speaking from ignorance.

You don't even know history.

Oh, I trust me.

I do know history.

No, you don't.

Because if you knew history, you would know that those kind of practices began, I think,

of the Abbasid Caliphate and the first victims of it were Turks themselves.

So I was right.

So I was right. I was right it was

then the Arabs and Turks

Oh you know I forgot you're a child

I forgot you don't even know what you're talking about because you're just not mature enough to understand that

Trust me I think my frontal lobe is well developed

I don't think it is I don't think it is

I think that you're looking at this I mean I don't think it is. I don't think it is. I think that you're

looking at this time. I think you're judging history by the standards of modern

sensibilities and it's a little ridiculous. Like the Mom Luke's,

the Mom Luke's and the Janissaries were both elite institutions and they were very high status institutions.

And although the conscription of people into them was not done according to modern sensibilities, which I actually think are better and superior, to say that this was an exceptional form of degradation or

humiliation of Christian populations is wrong, because the logic was these people are being

conscripted into the most elite institution within the empire to literally hold more influence in power than even

sometimes the sultan did you know so it's like that was i mean like the the janissaries and the

mom luke's that the fact that you like the fact that you like went straight to insults instead of actually making a point

because you kept interrupting me because you kept interrupting me notice how i had to just talk i mean you

wouldn't let me get my point across no you're just continuing to i mean you let you want to let me get my point across

what is your point you have the floor which is pretty which is pretty low IQ in my opinion

what's your point spell it out again like i said your your whole claim

about the Balkans whatever

being a part of the Ottomans

yeah I'm sorry that's what gave

that's the civilization that defines that

region of the world I'm just sorry that's just the truth

I mean I don't want to be under and I don't want to be under and i don't want to be

under an empire that like fucking nobody else wants to be under the ottomanity with little boys

to be under the ottoman empire but at the same time that was the framework that unified that

territory to that but you agree lebanon should be under

the but you should you agree that lebanon no i agree that that lebanon like the balkans is an

inheritor of the vestiges of ottoman civilization and it's just a fact.

I mean, to be sure, there are similarities throughout the entire Balkans and the Levant that are easily observable, which sometimes people say, oh, it's Mediterranean culture. No, it's Ottoman culture. That's the truth.

Well, that's because culture was enforced over there.

We had our own culture before Okay, so let me ask you a question. What was the, what polity

united Russia, Central Asiaia and the caucuses tell me no what historically for hundreds of years

what was it called what what are you referencing what was the what was the polity what was the state that ruled russia

central asia the caucuses for hundreds of years what What was it called?

In which time period?

Between, I would just give it away at that point.

Any time period.

When they were united, the majority of the period in which they were united and the foundations of those being part of one integral

territory where was that built um if i'm not mistaken the russian empire correct the russian

empire so was the russian empire great everything it did was it great was the way Empire great? Everything it did, was it great? Was the way that it persecuted Muslims good? Was it the way that it itself? I don't necessarily think there was Muslims at the time over there. There were. There were absolutelychens and the Tartars

no you had the Tatar's and you had

Central Asia

So

what's your point you're trying to get

My point is if you're a communist

You would still say well the Russian Empire

is still the civilizational framework and therefore

the soviet union was successful in being able to unite all these people because it was inheriting

the legacy that came from the russian empire which is true okay so but i'm not i'm not

the empire is what laid the foundations for the possibility of the soviet union and that's a fact i mean i'm not pushing for a russian empire back the same way you're pushing for the soviet union was that's what the soviet union was the the the the the fund fundamentals of the russian empire there would the only the legacy that

the soviet union drew upon to have a framework that united that many people in that much territory came from the Russian Empire.

How exactly could you elaborate a little more?

Why don't you just read Lenin who talked about how the Soviet state literally had to import the Tsarist state machine in its practices and habits, not just in the personnel that...

And what did the Bolsheviks do to the Russian Empire?

They formally dissolved and destroyed it, but it continued under a new...

Through revolution.

Okay.

And you know what the Balkan wars were?

Revolution.

The Balkan wars were...

So why did your Balkan Wars...

First and second Balkan wars.

Why don't we have the equivalent in the Balkans of a Soviet Union then?

Because, I don't know what you're trying to reference here.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know what you're trying to reference.

I'm trying to reference the simple fact that you don't have to agree with the Ottoman Empire, just like you don't have to agree with the Russian Empire to understand. I mean, we did have a

Eastern block

in the Balkans too.

Like Romania,

Moldova,

Bulgaria.

Those were all

part of the Soviets,

right?

And you asked,

they weren't all part

of the Soviets.

What the fuck are you talking? Well, satellite state of the soviets what the fuck are you talking well satellite state

of the so romania broke off a long time ago okay so no these these were soviet satellite states

you think romania was functionally a soviet satellite state youidilusional of course they were

they were definitely a part of the eastern block

the romania you should know this

no romania literally was an american ally

for a huge portion chow chow kashku or whatever his name was

romania was deeply close with america and had trade relations with the IMF in America and had a great deal of distance from Moscow.

Without the Soviets approval?

Yeah, pretty much.

There's nothing the Soviets could do about it either.

Especially

Bulgaria too.

They were Eastern

Block too.

Okay.

In any case,

you are triggered.

I knew you're

triggered by the truth

and that's okay.

Your capital is

on Bull.

Keep crying about it.

I don't care.

I mean, I don't understand why we have to use insults like a barbaric person.

No, because you're unable to engage with the argument.

You just keep interrupting me and you don't want to hear the truth and that's fine.

Your capital is a stunt bull.

There's nothing more i have to say

nah

i mean y'all your capital is

istanbul too

i don't live in the

i don't fucking live in lebanon though i live in america it's not my

problem

so you say you're just some like...

Do you live in the Balkans?

Yeah, actually.

Okay, you do. Okay, so I'm giving you the simple hard

truth. But I'm not in Istanbul, though.

But I'm not in Istanbul, though.

Okay, well, you're in some micro-state lit that will never have any rights or recognition by any state in the world because you're not part of an actual real state.

You're in some micro-tining.

What are you elaborating by this?

Small nations are useless and reactionary, according to Frederick Engels.

That's the truth.

Oh, my, oh my God, there's got to be some revision bullshit.

Take it up with Engels.

Small state,

ethnic state,

nonsense,

fake nonsense,

small shitty countries

are useless.

Not really,

but I mean,

if you want to go ahead and say that,

I mean,

you got a small state

in India, Kerala that's communist. So what's your, what's your argument?

Kerala's not independent from the Indian state. So it's not a state, actually. It's a, it's a province of a state. Okay, it's a province. Okay, so what are we talking about? So essentially a state inside of a state. Okay, it's a province. Okay, so what are we talking about? So essentially

a state inside of a country.

India is a country. There's many

like provinces and states. India is not a small country and India

is one of the worst examples. Corerala is a province, though.

What I was just trying to tell you.

Nobody denied Kerala as a province.

Yeah, but you said

small states wouldn't work out.

I'll give you my honest truth.

I think the whole reason

to be fair,

I wish the Ottoman is on the battle. I wish I wish the Ottoman won the Battle.

I wish the Ottomans won the Battle of Vienna.

That's the truth.

I wish they won.

Soviet communism couldn't never realistically work because when you have a really large,

communism only works as a

commune in a community. It cannot work

largely. That's why

the Soviets failed. If you're actually an adult and you're

not a child, I just want you know I hate you.

That's why the Soviets

failed because it was it was supposed

to be a commune. What is? It's talking about the Soviets failing because it was supposed to be a commune.

What is the Tito is talking about the Soviets

failing? You're literally a Titoist. Yugoslavia

was the biggest disaster in the entire

history of socialism. There's not a single

example of the failure of socialism

worse than Yugoslavia.

It's the worst.

So Union lasted 70 years.

It was hard to build.

Stalin did it.

Khrushab undid everything.

Gorbachev accelerated the demise.

Yugoslavia was a ticking time bomb

from day one.

As soon as Tito was gone, it literally

disappeared. At least after Stalin

was gone, the Soviet Union had a

run for a few decades.

Why are you talking about the Soviet Union

when you're upholding Yugoslavia,

which was even worse than the Soviet Union

than managing anything.

Because communism cannot work in a big country.

It's called a million times first at managing ethnic relations than the Soviet Union was.

A million times worse.

We know how to manage our ethnic, uh, and our national question.

Rage bait instead of labeling everyone as a lot of year before I lose my blood pressure.

Lineral rage bait.

We Yugoslavs know how to manage ethnic.

You knew how to manage ethnic relations in Yugoslavia.

You had a fucking war.

The Soviets only had Chechen, the Chechen problem.

The Soviet Union was a million times more competent at handling the national question than Yugoslavia.

The Soviet Union inherited

an imperial tradition that understood

how to build a multi-ethnic

and manage a multi-ethnic state.

Yugoslavia had the Austro-Hungarians

and it had the Turks before them, and then it had

some Prussians, some nonsense, German colonizers. And then it was born based on Pan-Slavism,

and it completely failed because it had no understanding of how to actually have the management of different ethnicities and nationalities.

And you're saying that the USSR failed to do that?

The last problem the USSR had was the national question, actually.

You had Gorbachev, you had revisionism,

you had Khrushchev.

Stalin did a good job at what he did, actually.

Pretty good job. There's some critiques you can make here or there, but in terms of actually building a state where everyone feels like they belong together in one happy family, the Soviets did do that. Now, Yugoslavia, you can't even look at your neighbor without hating them and wanting to

destroy them. Croats hate Serbs. Serbs hate Croats. Bosnians and Serbs have some kind of issue with

each other. They have some kind of issue with Montenegro, with Slovenia, who think they're German. Slovenians think they're German. Serbs

are out here, larping, Azarist, white Russians. Bosnians don't even know what they are. And what else do you have? Montenegro? Earthquakes.

Don't sit here and tell me that Tito and Yugoslavia had its shit together.

It's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in my life.

And then don't get me started with the Kosovo question, with Albania, or Albania.

Yugoslavia was terrible at building a multi-ethnic state.

Terrible. It was a disaster. After Tito was gone, the whole thing was destroyed.

If you had one leader in your entire history, and that's it.

You can't build a state.

You have no claim to competence, no legacy to draw from to say, oh, it's nonsense.

Go ahead, shovel.

Hello, hello, Hawes.

I have two questions.

Firstly, why are you dressed like Zelensky?

And secondly, I ain't been this drunk since Charlie Kirk died,

Hawes.

Puck her up and kiss me like a real man.

Just like used to weirdos, I guess.

Top guy, go ahead.

What's up, buddy?

This guy, what do you want?

I'm top guy.

So look, I'm going to speak for 10 minutes.

I'm going to need you to keep up.

So here's the thing.

You guys were talking about, like, ethnic relations, right? Do you think, or do you have the principle of this notion that America was more ethically homogenous, that there'd be a higher and high concentration of social cohesion, social capital, and because of the interconnection between the citizen trade,'ll be more likely to you know if the procedural mechanism of democracy

established social safety next

but yeah but the ethnic homogene will be the tartarian ethnicity and nothing else

no no i'm talking about america yeah, in America, the Tartarian ethnicity.

Are you retarded?

You want to get the lie? Is you trying to get the live

restricted? Is that what you're trying to do?

No, no, no, no, no, no. I apologize. I would never

want my dear Lord infrared to have

his life restricted. Absolutely

not. I apologize.

But, okay, come on. Ashton, actually not engaged.

How old are you?

25.

Okay.

There is no

eliminating America's current level

of ethnic pluralism.

There's no way to eliminate.

Do you not understand conditional hypotheticals?

There's no way.

If you're asking cultural, ethnic, cultural...

I'm talking about conditional hypotheticals.

Okay.

Cultural homogeneity,

not necessarily ethnic, but if you have

the cultural, then it tends to be ethnic because

a uniform culture presupposes people

who are culturally related

enough that they have practices of intermarriage

and just eventually blend into one people.

But yes, cultural homogeneity makes the rule of any given state much easier, regardless of what it is.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, but in this contemporary state, especially when we're embedded in this multicultural order that reinforces people to not assimilate because then their identity is like...

What are people expected to assimilate into in America? What's the, what's the like standard?

No, no, no, no, no. That's a pretty good issue. America's a byproduct of this, like, liberal, theoretical abstracted order.

So I just told you the solution is Tartarian uniformity.

You can't have Tartarian uniformity.

Yeah, we can. We're building a completely new civilization and completely new culture.

People don't want to, no, no, okay, but that...

I don't care what people want.

Don't care.

It's not by choice.

It's not by choice.

Stop and interrupt me just for one second.

Jeez, Louise.

You're very aggressive.

It's probably the Lebanese heritage.

Relax.

Okay.

Now, as I was saying

in order to have a national revival or national rebirth there must be a

presupposition of an interconnected body that seems self as a corpus under

this under the authorized representative who can spiritually

interconnected people. The infrared movement sees itself as tartaria and we're

conquering the nation.

It doesn't matter if you can conquer the nation.

You need at least some legitimacy or some

illusion of the mythical character of the state.

Tartaria. It's the greatest myth in the world.

All the Americans believe in Tartaria.

No, they don't. See, you're not larking. You're not a serious person.

Go on Facebook, look up Tartaria.

A lot of people believe in it.

Okay, see, exactly.

You can't justify your opinions because you understand.

They need to be a political interconnection between the authorized.

You can talk as fast as you want, at the end of the day Facebook people talk about

Tartaria every single day.

Okay, yeah, you're a rage baiting. You're a funny guy.

I'm not rage baiting, it's the truth.

You want Facebook

Tartaria.

Cartaria.

God, you know, the thing about it is that

I can't attack you because you're a very cute person.

You're very good looking.

And that's where we draw the line and just say, you know, what a disgusting failure to engage at the top of the get hand.

Herm, go ahead Guys taking 20 years to load. Guys taking 20 years to load You know, You're gonna, you're gonna, you're gonna have to try to just fix your Wi-Fi, like, it's taking two years to load by the way i want to tell you my position on um the balkans because this is genuinely what i think

like i'll give you i'll solve the balkans once if you want to hear me solve the Balkan conflict.

I can solve it.

One's if you want to hear me solve the Balkan conflict.

Okay.

I don't think the Balkans should be ruled by Istanbul.

I think that the Ottomans did oppress the Balkans.

Premise 1. They did oppress the Balkans. However, the Ottomans laid the foundation for the

civilizational integration of what we call the Balkans. And the ideal scenario is you have a Balkan Kisobash.

You have some kind of indigenous,

maybe the Albanian Bektoshis should have led this movement for a kind of pan-Bcan liberation from the Ottoman Empire that preserves the foundations of an

integral, unified state. And maybe Albania should have been the center. I think Albania could have been a big power, and Albania should have been the imperial capital of the Balkans, led by the Bektashi synthesis, you know?

And that should have been

maybe a Shia Bektashi

because the Shia, the Bektashi's were also profoundly Shia.

And Rehoja was a Shia, by the way.

And then that would have been very harmonious with the Serbian Orthodox Church, because it would not have been the rigid kind of form of Ottoman Sunni

Islam versus Orthodoxodoxy.

You now have this more interesting

syncretic, Bektashi,

Shia current, which is already

very much

sympathetic and similar to Christianity

in a lot of ways.

So that's what I believe in. I believe in the solution to the Balkan conflict should have been Albanian-led.

You know, maybe Kosovo could be the capital of this empire

and it should encompass the Balkans

and that would be quite nice

that would have been how Yugoslavia could have existed

but it could have worked

what about have worked.

What about Chowcesterscu and Romania?

Romania has a rich

history of the kingdom of Romania

for a very long time.

Romania, although it was at one point part of the Ottoman Empire, Romania did develop

its own independent, distinct kind of nation than just some kind of province of the Ottomans.

So I think that Romania was only independent in 1878.

But there is a long history of the kingdom of Romania, is there not?

Yes, it...

Or was it not a long history?

My bad.

No, there was Moldavia and Wallachia. Okay, Wallachia.

Wait, am I wrong? No, that was the 1800s. Hmm. First Romanian state. What? It was that early?

Wallachia. No, yes, Wallachia did exist. The Principality of Wallachia. No, yes, Wailachia did exist. The Principality of Wulaccia. I am correct. Principality of Wulacia. Okay, it existed for a very long time. It was a tributary state of the Ottomans correct but it there were sufficient foundations for Romania.

I think Romanian socialism is possible without having to merge with surrounding states.

Perhaps Romania is big enough.

What can I say?

Not in size, not in population, not in territory,

but in the depth of...

In a way

it's like

Romania has just as much

maybe this is too far

it's like

in the same way you could

say maybe Germany

could have had its own

communist

big Germany not just East Germany like East and Germany, like East and West Germany,

reunified into a communist state.

It's like Romania's on similar category to me. Romania is unique enough to not be absorbed into some kind of other thing.

But maybe it could be like a part of a federation, a Balkan federation, maybe, but definitely not as a small peripheral state. I do like Romania, by the way. I've always liked Romania.

You know that Romania wasn't more...

Chowcelsko was better than what Romania has now.

And it was a much better foundation for Romania to go forward under Chowcesterscu.

That's the truth.

What do you think of autoturk uhato turk uh autoturk led the war of independence of the turkish nation against foreign colonial powers.

And for this reason, he was the national hero and leader of the Turkish Republican tradition.

Whatever else you have to say about Ato-Turk, that's the premise. Chalcciko wasn't Marxist though.

Okay, who's a Marxist then?

Go ahead, tell me.

Tell me who Marxist is.

Go ahead.

And he's not a Marxist.

Tell me who the Marxist is.

Go ahead.

Tell me who the real Marxist is.

He's not a Marxist. Okay, who's the real Marxist? Can you come back to reality?

You're not a Marxist in my eyes unless you're infarwoke, so I don't even want to hear this nonsense from you, this LARP.

Aren't you supposed to be Marxist? Yeah, but

I know what that word actually means.

I know what actually, like, what is the appropriate

setting to disqualify someone from

being associated with Marxism?

Of course, there's a proximity between

Romania under Chowcesterscu and Marxism

that is functional and ingrained in the very logic

of the state power and the sovereignty. It's like, what are you even talking about?

Have I read Reza?

No, I've never read Reza Nagarstani.

Of course not.

I've never read him.

I've never even know who that is.

Definitely not.

LMAO, imagine caping for the ACP.

But I'm the chairman of the ACP.

It's like, what are we taught?

I'm literally the chairman of the ACP.

I've fallen off so badly that this random person just thinks I'm like some fan of the ACP.

That's how badly I've fallen off.

That's what I'm saying.

We need the infrared revival.

It's like this random person thinks I'm just a fan of the ACP.

They have no knowledge of the fact I'm literally the chairman of the ACP

imagine

Cape being what I literally help

found the ACP

I was at the plenary

committee I I was in the plenary committee.

I was in the Discord that made the logo a year before.

It's like I was there. you got to log off now no i'm not gonna

we'll do one more debate and then we'll put a cap on the stream.

Don't tell people that it's embarrassing.

Okay, Alfie,

why is it embarrassing, Alfie?

The wickedest witch. What is your problem?

15,000 followers.

Wow.

Someone famous is in the chat. he's going to say that

no, I would never say that, actually.

I don't gatekeep Marxism with nothing to show for it.

That's the point.

Alfie, what's going on?

What's the problem?

Hello.

I think the issue is that the ACP, from like the people I've interacted with and what I've seen, is that your class reduction is, that's embarrassing for you.

What do you mean by that?

Like, you think that um class when it comes to the economic system

is the most important system of oppression

and you don't highlight the other ways that like intersectionality and stuff affects and impacts people.

And so that becomes an issue.

Why?

Because it's not only an incomplete analysis of people's material realities, but it like also also you try to align with people that are like

literally macah because oh you know well they're just downtrod and working class people and

they don't understand that they you know being fascist and stuff like that and it's just like what

so what is oppression for you what does that mean they, you know, being fascist and stuff like that. And it's just like, what?

So what is oppression for you?

What does that mean?

What does oppression mean?

It's any sort of system or power structure that disenfranchises people.

What do you mean disenfranchise?

It removes access, either political or social power.

Interesting.

I think that's an interesting way of looking at oppression. It's probably not one I would even disagree with. What does it look like for you to be disenfranchised from power? To not have access to the same social, political power that other people have.

What about opportunity?

Opportunity would be part of social and political power.

What about access to rising up into the most elite institutions of the nation that you're in?

That would also be social power.

Can I ask you a question?

Sure.

Is more disenfranchised from being able to do that?

Someone who lives in a deindustrial town in Appalachia, rural Appalachia, or some, or a person of color transgender who lives in Brooklyn, whose parents went to Ivy League school?

And they both are for having access to the most elite institutions that rule the nation.

They're both for different reasons.

No, no, who's more, though?

Who's more disenfranchised, objectively?

I would say whoever the person...

Well, I mean, it's contextual.

So, like, if you have, like, an abolition... I think if you're a person of color who's transgender, but your parents

went to an Ivy League school and you come from wealth, I think you're not disenfranchised at all from

having access to the most elite institutions that rule our society. You know that there are like black

people who literally got arrested trying to go

into their own homes, right? Because they were wealthy, but people didn't think they were wealthy

because they were black. So that's not like, I would say that black people do suffer more

harassment as a consequence of their physical characteristics and their racial background than white people do.

I have no problem.

Yeah, and that's disenfranchisement.

When you can literally be part of the wealthy elite class and get unalived.

Okay, but what's a more fundamental form of disenfranchisement? Being harassed because of how you look or being gate kept out of the most elite institutions that define opportunity economically, politically, and culturally within the nation that you live in.

It's more disenfranchising to have the baseline assumption that because of your skin color,

you could not be part of an elite class than it is to like...

But you are part of that elite class. It's just that sometimes people assume you're not.

You think that's more

oppressive? And somebody who is locked

out and gate kept out of power

for their whole life? Because of your skin

color, the base assumption is that you are

not only not part of the elite class,

but that you are a part of a class built

for exploitation.

That is disenfranchisement.

But you want to know what your perspective of intersectionality is actually relevant for?

You are creating the guidebook in the manual for the bourgeoisie to be more tolerant of itself so that when

the rich people go to the country club and there's a black person, they could say, okay, we're

going to learn to be less discriminatory toward our fellow bourgeois who may have come from a

different race or a different sexuality. But when you're talking about the

fundamental structure of oppression, we have to talk about how a system of gatekeeping is continually

reproduced that locks out the people that live in the periphery within this country from having any

access whatsoever to the center of

power. And that's a more fundamental

form of oppression than the

cultural forms of

harassment and misunderstanding

that exist within the bourgeoisie.

If you're already in the bourgeoisie, you can be harassed for sure because of your origins

or where you came from, but you're already in. You made it in. Now, there's complications

and there's things that make you feel more discriminated against more and so on.

But you're in the bourgeoisie.

You're not being oppressed.

You're being misunderstood.

Yeah, that's not true.

Wealth does not protect black people from systemic anti-blackness and systemic racism no absolutely it doesn't protect

them from misunderstandings not at all but there's a difference between oppression and a misunderstanding

hold on it has nothing to do with misunderstandings there are are systemic, embedded.

Really? It's not a misunderstanding. Why is it then when the white bourgeoisie,

when the white liberal bourgeoisie, is brought more into proximity with the answer to the racism is always dialogue and understanding? When the white liberal bourgeoisie realizes that the black liberal

bourgeoisie is the same as them. We all are similar. We talk similar. We have a similar level of

education. We have a similar set of values. They're like my god we just defeated racism we've come to this

understanding with each other that we're actually the same it's just our skin color is different

that's the mo of how the bourgeoisie deals with racism it's just a misunderstanding it has

nothing to do with addressing any kind of real oppression.

Nothing at all.

Okay, so first off, that's not my- Because the black bourgeoisie is not oppressed.

The black bourgeoisie is still oppressed, and I'm not here to argue.

It's subjected.

I'm not here to argue for the black bourgeoisie.

I'm talking about these structures as a whole. No, but that's what's decisive for the argument about intersectionality. The only thing that would make intersectionality decisive is if you're going to make the case to me that the black or transgender or person of color or disabled bourgeoisie is on a same dimension

of oppression as the working class of this nation.

Yeah, they are because of...

But they're not, but they're really not.

Like transgender people are literally experiencing a cultural genocide and a social genocide happening currently in America.

That is a form of bourgeois and petty bourgeois narcissism and delusion.

You want to know what real genocide looks like living in a deindustrial town that nobody cares about where basic roads are not

being fixed where there's no water there's no infrastructure and people are just they have no

access to health care and they're just dying off out of negligence transgender people's access to

health care is being taken away. What are you talking about?

Okay.

By that, you mean children, correct?

No, I'm talking about adults.

There's literally states that are outlying transgender people being able to get medical care for their transition which state is preventing adults from having

medical tools to change their gender identity which states are doing that um yeah there's multiple

like republican states i don't have a list of them all up in front of me. I think Florida is one of them.

Okay. So in Florida, being a transgender who wants to have access to some kind of pharmaceutical

products that help them change their appearance or something. That's illegal now in Florida?

They have restricted a lot of, like they fired somebody recently just for being transgender,

or they thought they were transgender, and they were actually intersect.

Okay. So you're claiming that it's illegal to be transgender in Florida effectively?

Yeah, there's definitely job discrimination.

They can have their job to take away.

All I can tell you is you're delusional.

You live in a world that's not the reality.

That's not delusional.

Somebody literally came with a minute talking about how they were fired for being

intersex because they thought they were transgender.

But that's,

even if that was true, even if someone

was fired. It is true. It's not an even if

that was true. It's literally true.

Okay.

But then they can literally take it to court

and file civil rights suit.

No, they cannot.

Yes, they can.

It's upheld by the Supreme Court.

You can take it to court.

No, because Trump has eroded people's

Civil Rights Act. That was like one of the most recent things that happened. The Civil Rights Act people's civil rights act.

That was like one of the most recent things that happened.

The Civil Rights Act has been revoked, really?

I said it was eroded, which again, if you have an understanding of political.

If you are fired because you're a transgender, you can actually take that to court and file suit on the basis of civil rights laws.

Yeah, but we have a Supreme Court that's a majority conservative. They've made like multiple decisions that eroded civil rights. They just recently yeah but a lot of this is coded into law a lot of this isn't just supreme court precedent it's coded into law we still have the civil rights it's not but the the supreme court interprets what the law is what What are you talking about? The Supreme

Court gets to sit here and be like, oh, this law

cannot be applied in this way or this law

does not fit with what.

They are the ones that are adjudicating

what the law can be implied

as.

Okay. So you're claiming...

And they just most recently eroded the Civil Rights Act, which was talking about how black people had access to voting power.

They literally said, oh, it doesn't matter if black people are underrepresented in their district.

So you're completely wrong and you may call this up.

But even if I were... I'm not. Yeah, you just call this up. But even if I were...

I'm not.

Yeah, you've just made it up.

Nobody can legally be fired on the basis of their intrinsic or gender identity or any of that kind of stuff.

It's not legal in the United States.

I'm not saying that it's legal.

But even if I were to concede this fantasy to you for the purposes of moving the argument

forward, even if I were to agree to this fantasy, which has no basis in reality, the only

possible circumstance in which I could say that it was a form of oppression that a transgender person got fired because they're transgender,

is if it's also primarily because they're a worker, they're a proletarian, where if they're fired from their job, then they're fired from their livelihood, and they have no way to actually make a living

because workers are people who depend on their work.

They depend on their jobs.

Not depend on their job to have more of a comfortable living

and comfortable high status.

I'm not talking about a job on the NBA or something.

I'm talking about a basic ability to support yourself and have some kind of wage to get by.

So the fundamental factor in that would be if they're a worker or if they're a proletarian.

It would have nothing to do with the fact that they're somehow just because they're transgender. A transgender trillionaire or billionaire. A transgender millionaire like contrapoints can at no level on any dimension be said to be oppressed. Contra pointss is not a trillion, you idiot.

I said a millionaire.

A millionaire like ContraPoints at no level whatsoever can be said to occupy any

dimension of oppression that is shared with a worker.

None at all.

I don't think she's a millionaire.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure she's not a millionaire either.

You think ContraPoints isn't worth millions of dollars, really?

I don't. I really don't, but I could be wrong.

Maybe like one million or two million. I don't think that...

You're absolutely wrong.

She's like, she's a popular YouTuber, but I don't think she's like that wealthy.

So intersectionality is gibberish and nonsense.

There's not a single example you could say of non-workers and non-proletarians being oppressed in this nation.

Intersectionality would bring into fact that when it comes to the

majority that trans people are unfortunately homeless so if you're talking about working class

people and you're talking about people being disenfranchised certain minorities are more

disenfranchised than other people.

I hate to drop the brutal truth

bomb of Marxism, which is ruthless and

cold and really doesn't care about feelings

and sentiment. But according to the

Marxist framework, those would just be

lumpin.

What? Marxists would classify those people you're talking about as lumpin and what are you using that term to describe

they're not proletarians they're lumpin lumpin could be They could live a worse life. They could have a harder time getting by. But Marxism doesn't recognize their oppression as, you know, the proletarian class struggle. They lumpin as a reactionary class yeah and that's stupid but that's

if you're telling me if you're supposed to you're telling me that you're telling me that's the

stupidest thing i've heard if you're telling me that you are supposedly pro-worker,

take it up with Carl Marx.

I mean, I don't take anything up with Carl Marx because I don't have to listen to a dead guy

who died over 200 years ago.

But I do listen to the dead guy.

I honor my forefathers.

I honor my ancestors. I do listen to the dead guy. I honor my forefathers. And act like what he said?

I honor my ancestors.

I do listen to the dead guy.

He was also wealthy.

It's really stupid to sit here and talk about.

He wasn't.

But even if he was, I still listen to the dead guy.

You listen to the bourgeois guy that lived a life of privilege and had enough time to sit around and

speculate on wealth and privilege of everything die from poverty from childbirth he was

bourgeois and privileged right that's complete nonsense marks who was chased out of germ Germany and had to find refuge in London, because he couldn't

even go back to his homeland.

Why was that?

Why was he chased out of Germany?

Because he stood up for poor German peasants who were taking wood from a forest, which they had done for a thousand years, when the branches of a tree would fall off, they would take it home to light their fire so they don't freeze to death in the winter.

Marx kept fighting for these common people, and it got to a point where he was targeted in the crosshairs of the disgusting

German aristocracy, which was also practicing LGBT sexuality, by the way, but I guess they're

oppressed, according to you. They chased him out for defending the common man

and he had to go to London to find refuge

because he everything he had in his life he devoted

to the oppressed the real oppressed people

in the land that he came from

and he was punished for it and he lived a life of poverty for the rest of his life

okay but he still had wealth at one point so it's still like when did he have wealth by the way where are you getting this from when did he have wealth he like owned a factory

karl marks owned a factory really yeah i'm like okay unless i'm getting confused um

another um you're talking about frederick angles oh angles who's a based man who deserved that factory and more factories. I wish he owned more factory. I wish he owned all the factories and was the dictator of all of Europe. I wish he owned everything as a like an Asiatic despot, like an Oriental despot, like the sultan of

all of Europe, he owned everything. I wish he

owned, I wish he enslaved

Europe and he owned everyone in Europe.

He would have been...

Yeah, and this is why y'all are corny,

because it's something, you cannot actually believe in

liberation for people if you think

that like enslavement of others is okay if you think that they're like dictatorships are okay

if engels enslaved all of europe but everyone is equally a slave and everyone is equally you know and it's

not private they're not being traded

on the market and hypothetically

speaking that could be a greater form

of liberation for them that is the stupidest

thing I've ever heard

being a slave can never be liberation

what are you talking about a slave you never be liberation. What are you talking about?

A slave.

You sound like a Christian saying,

If you're a slave to Allah,

they call Abdullah, a slave to a law,

slave to necessity is the freedom.

Freedom is insight into necessity.

Freedom is not the freedom to frolic around arbitrarily with your arms clapping.

Freedom is to be a slave to necessity, like Abdullah, slave to Allah, slave to communism, slave to communism, slave to. Slave to communism. Slave to revolution.

Slave to necessity.

Okay.

So you're a Muslim.

Same thing as Marxism.

Muslim, Marxism and Muslim is not the same thing. It's exactly

the same thing. It's actually

not. Carl Marx was called the Moore.

You know what the Moors were? They were Muslims. You don't know

anything. When Carl Marx went to

Algeria, he said the Algerians

were already ready. They were already communists.

They know no class distinctions.

And they're ready for the revolution.

It doesn't mean that they were Marxists.

Marx said they didn't even need Marxism because they were already enlightened.

Sure.

I think that it's really interesting

that you have such a disregard for

because there's no way that you can engage with black

leftist thought. There's no way that you can

engage with people. I can engage

with Louis Farrakhan. I can engage

with the nation of Islam. I can engage.

Farrakhan. What? I've talked. I've talked and

spoken with... That dude is like an anti-Semitic

like, like, what are you talking about?

Beirch! about best. Best. I can talk to Farrakhan. I talk to Tariq Nishid already. There's plenty of black

leaders I can talk to. I just can't talk to the people who think that a black worker living

in the ghetto is on the same dimension of oppression as contrapoints.

I just can't talk to those people. Yeah, I never said that they were. You said a black

proletarian. You said a black person in the hood who has no educational opportunities. You said in a

black person in a Detroit neighborhood who will never have any access to any power, any privilege or nothing, who lives on the street, who's neglected, who's considered nothing by our society. You're saying that there's a dimension, a nexus of oppression that he shares with contrapoints.

That's your delusional worldview.

I did not say that.

I didn't say that, though.

But that's what you, that's what intersectionality says.

No, it does not.

Where does the, where does contrapoints intersect with a Detroit black youth who has

no opportunity to have a future

where does she intersect with him

that's not what intersectionality means

a straight heterosexual

black young man

how is he an oppressor to contra points

can you explain that?

Because according to intersectionality,

a heterosexual straight black man is an oppressor of contrapoints.

That's what you think.

Yes, you think there's a dimension in which it could be.

You believe there's a dimension in which it could be... How are you going to tell me what I think, sir?

How are you going to tell me what I think?

Why don't you ask me what I think?

You think there's a... Okay, is there any dimension in which it could be said

that a black man oppresses contrapoints?

I think that when it comes

to gender specifically, gender dynamics.

It's a yes or no?

That a black

cis het person would have

the privilege of being considered

normal in society. But that doesn't mean

like she would have more power

in a situation because she's white. Okay, but is there any nexus of oppression or dimension in which

you could say the black man oppresses contrapoints?

Well, she has more privilege because she's a white woman.

Okay.

But is there any sense in which the black guy is oppressing her?

What?

Is there any dimension which the black, poor man is oppressing her?

If they were in a relationship or something and he was like an abusive spouse that could be like a form of oppression because it's gendered violent straight man cis hetero straight black man who lives in the ghetto you're saying that he even occupies a similar nextxus, the same nexus, not the same oppression, not the same road of oppression, but there's, there can be said to be an intersection between his condition and that of contrapoints at some level. But what is intersectionality?

You fundamentally don't understand what intersectionality means.

Okay, what does it mean then?

Intersectionality means that people have overlapping identities.

Okay, where's the intersection that contrapoints and the black guy meet at who lives in the ghetto?

That's not what intersectionality means. Like you just keep using the word wrong.

Intersectionality is not saying that there is some intersection that her and that man share.

Okay.

It means that there are overlapping identities and where those overlapping identities meet, people have...

Why are you disembodying an identity from real people?

What's the disembodying abstraction?

Why are you talking gibberish? Why are you talking gibberish?

How can you disembodied the identity from real people?

You're speaking gibberish, sir?

No, you're saying the identities intersect, but the people don't?

What are you talking about?

It's not talking about, it's not talking about the identities that an individual person holds.

The intersection is within themselves, not other people.

These identities exist somewhere separate from the individuals?

Where do they exist? The intersection is not with other people. It's with themselves.

So he internally is intersecting with contrapoints? What's going on? No, it's he has multiple identities that intersect with each other. He has multiple identities.

Go tell him he has multiple identities.

I think they'll laugh at you if you say that.

I think most people have one identity.

You're anti-intellectual.

No, people have one identity.

It's called my name. This is me. I am.

It's who I am. I walk with this. I carry this. This is who I am and what I am. I guarantee you go to Detroit. Talk to. Are you a communist, sir? I am one person. I have one name. No, are you a communist?

Yes, I am. Absolutely.

Okay. You're a communist.

Then that automatically is an identity, you idiot.

It's not an identity. You have your name, which is an identity.

It's not an identity.

A communist is an identity.

That's just the way of describing me, Haas. I am a communist. That's part of what I am. No, it's not. It's part of what I am. Yes, it is. A way of describing yourself. Where is something you identify? It is an identity. Okay. Then the communist identity has to exist somewhere separate from me.

Where does it exist in my world?

It exists in your mind, a part of your psyche.

It is a part of it's a social identity.

What is the mind?

Somewhere in my mind, what is that?

What is that materially?

Because it doesn't mean nothing if you're not walking the walk.

It don't mean nothing if it's not material.

Anyone can have anything in their mind.

Whether or not you live up to the identity or not, the fact is it is an identity.

You tried to claim that people can't have identities outside of their names.

Alfie, I want to congratulate you for proving that intersectionality is rooted in

bourgeois idealism.

So,

I want to congratulate you for being an idiot.

Idealism.

You don't understand the terms that you're disparaged.

Idealism.

Idealism.

So contrapoints because

in her mind she's oppressed like a poor

black guy in the hood congratulations

it's nonsense yeah never said that

you can't engage with what I'm actually saying so you have to keep putting

words a black worker in the hood

who commutes to the factory every day, one of the automobile plants and factories every...

That's, by the way, one of the more privileged positions, but nonetheless, you're saying that guy somehow in the mind of identities where identities, because they exist in the mind, somehow in the mind of identities where identities because they exist in the mind

somehow in his mind

there's an astral plane

where his identity intersects

with that of contrapoints.

I did not say that.

I was told you multiple times

that's not what I've said.

That's just idealistic.

Intersectionality has nothing to do with an intersectionality is about intersecting identities within one person.

It's not saying my identity intersects with another person.

That's not what it's saying.

You are fundamentally.

So according to you, every single person has a cocktail

of identities that all intersect with each other, right?

Yes, every person has multiple

social identities and those identities

interact with each other. Let's work with that. Let's work with

that then. Does that mean we can compare

people then?

Like, can we say one person based on this intersectional formula is more oppressed than another person?

It would mean that in certain circumstances, some people have privilege over other people.

As in general,

when you weigh everything out

and you do the fucking math,

whatever it is.

It's not like math.

It's not saying like, oh.

Absolutely, it's a calculation.

It's absolutely a calculation.

It isn't.

No, what you're saying is, what you're saying is there are unlimitedly different contexts in which somebody could say, pay me on Patreon because you oppress me, because you owe me, because you oppressed me me because of a microaggression.

This is just either a... You have to keep strutaining the argument because you're wrong.

If you were actually right,

you would be able to engage with what I'm actually saying

because I'm engaging with it.

Why would we entertain some nonsense

that only exists in people's head?

You have to be able to compare social segments of the population in meaningful ways for it to be politically relevant.

If this stuff only exists in people's heads and is some kind of, oh, I'm oppressed an XYZ way. It doesn't only exist.

Who is oppressing you?

So are we all just...

Okay, let me ask a question.

Are you saying that we're all just like oppressing each other in different ways based on the context?

No, it's, I'm saying that every...

Because you said that contrapoints in general could never be said to oppress a black guy in the hood or something, right?

Or you said...

You said...

Sorry, you said the black guy in the hood in no context could be said to ever oppress contrapoints if he's not in a relationship with them or abusing them because uh because

contrapoints is white and therefore contrapoints is has more privilege and is more of a oppressor right so

you are comparing people not just in a certain context but

overall right you are doing that okay so there's multiple statements that you're making so you make

multiple statements and there's like i have to go back and address which ones are incorrect.

So when it comes to like intersectionality, the intersectionality is not like some like tally system where it's like,

oh, you put in these inputs.

Okay.

And there's the question again.

Can the got is...

We talk about the fact that they're intersecting identities and those intersecting

identities have a material

impact on people's live realities those live realities may have worse and therefore what how do we

liberate these people and from who by disbandling the systems that of oppression then are

control me the action.

What does the action look like?

It depends on what system you're talking about.

If you're talking about things like patriarchy, it's by women's liberation.

It's about like...

What does that mean?

Like the removal of

like sexist

stereotypes in language

every time I press you on it, you're just talking about

the elimination of more abstractions.

What does that look like concretely?

Concretely, it looks like making

sure that women have equal power within their workforce

making sure that women are more represented within them so that more representation

more bourgeois institutional representation.

No, not even about like bourgeois.

What else?

Tell me what else. What else?

Tell me what else.

Okay.

More affirmative action for women.

What else?

Medical justice. So like people who having makes sure that women

are adequately represented within

medical studies and field the field

of medicine. So that way they can get. Okay. So I'm

just going to collapse that under representation. Anything else?

That's not just representation though. Like we literally

don't study women's bodies.

What about in Hollywood movies?

More women superheroes?

Is that one of the ones?

Or video games or something?

That's not what I'm talking about.

I'm not talking about representation.

I'm saying that like within,

all right,

what about something other than representations?

We don't study male bodies,

mostly,

and the way medicines work on male bodies,

we don't do enough studying on women's bodies

to know how it affects them.

That's like a concrete material effect that has.

Okay. Anything else besides representation?

What? Is there anything besides representation that we could talk about looks like reliburation?

Yeah. I mean, there's things like reproductive justice making sure that people have access to so unlimited abortions at any stage of pregnancy right

okay notice how i didn't say that i said reproductive. So making sure people have autonomy over their bodies.

Yeah, so abortions at any stage of pregnancy.

Are you, like, I don't get white what you're saying.

Are you trying to, like, ask me if that's my position or what do you?

Yeah. Is that your position or what does that mean? Because I'm trying to understand

concretely what it means. Because I'm pretty sure every, like almost every state with, I think

there's a, there's some states where it's very extreme because of the Supreme Court thing.

But in the prior ruling, you had Oregon where they said they allowed it until eight months.

So, you know, if you go to Europe or other countries, there's like a, you know, by three months, you know, or the trimester or whatever, they have a kind of, they do restrict it at some point in the pregnancy where they say, no, you can't do it unless it's threatening your life or something. So like what for you is the limit on abortion or is there no limit? And that's oppression if there's a limit.

I mean, I personally don't feel like there's any point where you can control someone's body.

I don't understand.

So abortion at any stage and unlimited abortions at any stage of pregnancy.

That's what it means to liberate women according to you, correct?

I think that, well, I mean, you're talking about labor, forcing someone to carry a pregnancy.

I'm not, I'm asking a question. You believe in nine-month abortions, potentially.

I think that a nine-month abortion would look very different than an abortion at like a one week or two weeks or whatever.

You think seven-week abortion or seven-month abortion is okay.

Just for whatever reason.

It's like it's fine.

Yeah, I'm saying I think that later term abortions would look a lot differently than what people are trying to act like it would. It would just be like, like, labor. What would it look like? Inducing labor. You think

every point at seven months it's safe for labor to be induced? Not necessarily, no. Okay, so in that

case where it's not safe for the baby, then you're just saying liberation means abortion at any point of pregnancy, correct?

You can't force someone into labor with their body when it comes to reproduct the labor.

Okay, but that's not what I'm asked. So therefore you believe liberation means unlimited abortion at any time in pregnancy, correct?

I think that it means having you won't answer directly.

Okay, so that's what you mean.

So we have representation.

I think it means having complete control over your reproductive labor, which if you're advocating for worker rights... So we have representation We have representation

Which if you're advocating for

For worker rights

You would advocate

In one of the prongs

In one of these

Roads of Intersectionality

Which is women's liberation

I asked you what are the liberation mean?

You said, representation and unlimited abortions at any time.

What else?

If we're talking about women's liberation, specifically people having, like, access to, well, I mean mean there's a deeper cultural things that we

would have to unlearn about like the way that we view women's bodies and the way that we socialize

women's change our view change our subjective point of view right how do we know change do that, by the way? Change the societal expectations

that we place upon. How do we affect societal expectations? Tell me, how do education,

bias training, all that stuff? Bias training. Okay, we're going somewhere. What does that look like? What does does that look like what does the training look

like or the education how does what is that yeah it would be first off the removal of anti-woman

bias within like education to begin with so we're just gonna like okay I'm gonna fit that in

representation because all we're gonna do is change that's not So we're just going to like, okay, I'm going to fit that in representation because all we're going to do is change language. That's not representation.

We're just going to change how we talk about things and change how things are written down, correct? So that would be the third thing. We just change. We just change how we talk about and write things down what else um i mean

there's more specific ones like creating legislation around the protection of you know women

when it comes to things like violent,

femicide, things like that.

Okay. I didn't know femicide was legal, but if it's legal, then I'm all for making that illegal.

I didn't say it was legal, they're still not proper like legislation around

what if a woman wants to get an abortion because she doesn't want to give birth to a

a girl should that be restricted because i feel like there's an intersectional uh jurisdictional

problem in that case someone can get an abortion for a reason that might not be

okay well we don't touch the abortion thing got it so what do you mean by what okay so laws

so femicide's already illegal so how do you want to make it more illegal?

Because it's not treated like a hate crime, for instance.

It's like when it comes to... Classify femicide as a hate crime.

Okay, anything else?

I mean, there's a lot of stuff that goes into...

It's like you kill a baby.

You're going to jail for life or you're getting the electric

chair or something but but let's just also say it's a hate crime just so we feel better about

you know how we've classified it's not treated the same again men commit violence against women

in relationships all the time you're saying if someone murders a baby one you're saying if someone murders a baby.

One, you're saying if someone murders a baby and the baby's a woman, they get away with it or it's a white sentence or something?

Is that what you mean?

Men commit domestic violence against women all the time.

And a lot of times it's an act of hatred against women and it's not treated as active hatred against women.

We were talking about femicide and not domestic violence.

I used feminicide as an example, but violence against women is not just femicide.

I agree. We need to crack down on domestic violence.

Gendered violence specifically is something that has to be addressed as gendered

because so that would mean we arrest more people and throw them in jail.

Well, I mean, I'm an advocate for a restorative system of justice.

It's not just about arresting people. So how do you punish the people that are abusing women if you don't want to use a heavy hand doing it? How do you do that? What do we do that? It's not saying that people don't receive punishment for the things. It's that the ultimate

goal is not locking someone away for the

rest of their life. So why even talk

about it if you don't want to do anything? Why do you? Interrupting me when

you ask me a question. If you ask the question, you have to

listen for the answer. Please. Finish.

Please. Um, so when it's

we're talking about like making things illegal, it's, we're talking about, like, making things illegal.

It's not just saying, oh, take this person, lock them up, and throw them away.

The ultimate goal of it would be to rehabilitate this person into a productive worker in society.

So you would be creating systems of education, rehabilitation, integrating both psychology and other social systems.

There's a lot of these women abusers are a very widespread problem.

So you have to round these people up and put them in camps.

No.

You would be creating stronger social systems, things like, what is it called?

Like rehabilitation centers and so.

You talked about you want more laws that create more classifications of crime.

You want more of a criminal, you know, um,

acknowledgement of crime and you want to, therefore you want a stronger punitive apparatus for

the enforcement of justice. But now you're saying, no, I want more restorative nonsense,

liberal nonsense. Tell me what it is you seek to do to liberate women. You want to put men in

interpretive dance classes for beating women. Is that your solution to the problem of domestic violence?

Once again, you're doing a straw man. Because again, nobody said here that interpretive dance is rehabilitation.

What is the rehabilitation?

Rehabilitation would look like someone not necessarily having access to the public life

so there would still be some type

of like imprisonment or separation from

the general public

while they are still danger

while also having intensive therapy

psychological evaluation

and also having a psychological evaluation. Intense therapy and psychological

evaluation.

Intense therapy and psychological

evaluation.

Aside with community service and other

ways of giving back to the community while they're

human. And how would you enforce

this? Or are you saying it'd be voluntary?

Through the judicious system.

How would you enforce it?

Who would be enforcing it and how?

And with what?

The same.

Same.

So cops.

So the police.

So the police.

So you want to expand

police

you want to expand

in a world

where we were

implementing these things

we know

without a police

systems

who's going to do it

then

I mean

we would have

some sort of

authority system that's not like structured the way that the beliefs are.

So how does liberation happen when there's all these terms and conditions where everything has to be right or else it's nothing, right? So, like, how is liberation even possible?

Let me ask that question.

How is it even possible if everything has to be right?

Because you told me to liberate women, which is one of the prongs that we haven't even talked about, the trans liberation.

You told me to liberate women.

We have to deal with domestic violence.

I agree.

You said we need to classify it as a hate crime.

Maybe I'm not against it.

But now you're saying, but to actually enforce the consequences of the crime, we're not going to have police.

We're going to have some hypothetical something that doesn't exist.

So what...

Well, I mean, you were asking me about what, like, how I would do it or what...

No, I'm asking you what would constitute liberation.

Well, if we're talking about women's liberation, specifically, that could exist within the prison system being as it is now.

Okay.

I'm just saying you want to fill the prisons with more people and you want the police to be funded more so that they could round more people up to put them in prison.

Well, yeah, I'm against the current...

It doesn't matter. This is what you want to liberate women.

No, that's not what I'm saying. Again, you're trying to like strong in the point.

What's the solution then? So nothing?

The solution is we should be doing these things in tandem.

We should be trying to liberate women while also reforming our judicial system because

our judicial system is flawed and biased against certain groups of people.

Okay.

How do you do that?

Through advocacy work through legislation, through, you know, removal of...

More laws.

Legislation means lawmaking.

So we're going to have more laws who's enforcing the laws

the judicial system the police and the end of the day with a gun the police who have a gun

no that's what you're talking that's the only thing that that's that's's all it is. It's a cop with the gun.

There's no judicial system

if there's no cop with a gun. Nobody will

follow. You think Americans will follow

laws if there's no cop with a gun?

Did you, like, judges

enforced laws. What are you talking about?

He's going to have his, he's going to have his he's going to go to

people's houses with his uh his gavel his little hammer how is he going to make it happen

how is he going to enforce it you can have a a an authority figure that's in charge of

why would anyone in america why is anyone

doesn't have to be the policing system as it currently exists tell me why

americans now would listen to an authority figure they don't fear

because that that person has the ability to be able to, like, if they have, if they've been given the power by the society, they don't have to fear that person.

Give me one example of such a person.

That's, I I mean like your boss

You don't have to fear your boss

But at the same time you do fear him

You absolutely fear your boss

Because if you don't do what he says

You don't get any money

And you're broke

So you do fear your boss

There's a fear there I don't think it's normal

or healthy for most people

to fear their boss.

I don't think most people fear their boss.

They just have a healthy

respect for the power

that they have.

No, most fear they're going to lose their job.

Well, I mean, maybe you live that way.

I don't live that way.

Of course, I don't live that way so

of course I don't have a boss so I don't live that way but the truth is most people do fear

their boss to some extent it's literally called wage slavery have you never heard of it

I have heard of it you don't believe in Marxism I remember so

yeah all all, this is the inherently bourgeois nature of your intersectional worldview.

You implicitly treat workplace relationships as free and equal, just like the bourgeoisie does.

I didn't say they were free and equal. It's wholesome.

It's wholesome. Oh, your boss the bourgeoisie does. I didn't say they were free and equal.

It's wholesome.

Oh, your boss.

That's an respect.

Yeah, I, I respect my boss.

Yeah, the authority is my boss.

I respect my boss, of course, because you're a slave of capitalism, because you're bourgeois.

You're bourgeois, you worship. I'm not bourgeois., you're bourgeois liberal. I'm not bourgeois.

You are a bourgeois liberal.

I'm literally working class.

What are you talking about?

No, you are a bourgeois liberal.

I'm not.

You have the world view.

You have a bourgeois.

I am not a bourgeois.

You have a bourgeois worldview.

I do not. Yesgeois. You have a bourgeois worldview. I do not.

Yes, you have a politically correct bourgeois worldview.

You want to have more bias training, more representation.

This is liberation for you. liberation things are essential

to fixing the poor problem

but let me can I

I want to give you a wake up call

the wake up call is you can't wake me up

when you're asleep

the wake up call is here

okay

the infero yeah you can't wake anybody up

because you're fully asleep.

You are fully asleep to white supremacy.

To have your third eye open, to have your third eye open, you need to be asleep.

You're synchering whiteness in your world.

To have your third eye open.

To have your third eye open. People of color and their perspectives. To have a third eye open to have your third eye open

people of color and their perspectives to have a third eye

open you're still asleep to

have a third eye open you need to

be asleep to the falsehood of this

disgusting bourgeois world

and I dream of the world of the proletariat

that's how I do as well.

Again, I'm not...

I walk.

My dreams are awake.

My dream is awake.

Anyway, let me tell you the truth.

The truth is very simple.

You describe oppression in this meticulous way.

We're all represented.

This is an insult to people who really do suffer oppression.

Because for those who suffer oppression, there is one thing and one thing only that weighs

over them.

Only one thing.

A Palestinian, there's one thing weighing over them, and they wage war on this thing.

That thing is the occupation entity.

There's no meticulous all representation.

That's gibberish for people who suffer oppression.

For people who suffer oppression, the thing that's oppressing them is clear and present and in front of them.

And they can name it.

And they can refer to it.

And they can have a plan and an understanding of what needs to be done to overthrow it.

They don't have to play 21 questions

naming off all of these meticulous nonsense things

like therapy and training

in order to understand what's at stake

in the liberation of both themselves

and the people they live with.

What you're describing is not oppression.

It's a managerial problem for HR departments to make bourgeois professionals feel more comfortable being in the adult daycares that they're in.

That's what you're talking about.

Or God forbid, members of the bourgeoisie in their various disgusting, filthy bourgeois country clubs,

having a mutual understanding so there's no misunderstandings.

So the white guy doesn't misunderstand the fact that the black guy next to him is his

fellow class brethren and doesn't mistake him for a filthy proletarian. That's your understanding of

oppression. It's not the alleviation of oppression. It's not liberation.

What it really is is the managerial training of the bourgeoisie to be in more solidarity with each other.

It's an insult to people who suffer real oppression, for whom the solution is clear. To destroy the thing oppressing them is the regime

yeah all it's hegemony no no it's not an abstraction it's not a state of mind it's not a point of

view it's not a certain level of words and a rhythm and tempo of

how we communicate and use our language.

It's a machine that is clear and present

just like the IDF for a Palestinian.

Yeah, you're oversimplifying.

And to act as though all oppression is

abuse that you can fight is just

not true. Because oppression is simple.

One of the pillars. One

literal part, a branch of

when it comes to like black

liberation is called black

Afro or like Afro-Pasiness. No, no, no. There's one

word for everything. there's one the

conceptualization of black people is so embedded into pagan you are pagan that the removal of capitalism is

necessary i reject your shaton polytheism one only one Allah one cause one struggle one oppression theism. One only. One Allah. One cause. One struggle. One oppression. One movement. One revolution.

Only one. Only one. I rebuke you, Shatan. I rebuke your polytheism. I rebuke

the polytheism

of intersectionality.

I rebuked the idol

worshippers.

I rebuke those

who attempt to

divide the very clear

and present cause

in front of us.

The struggle laid

out by

Sheikh,

Marx,

Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, the wise sheikh of our era.

They set out the clarity of the direct line, the direct tradition, the direct revolution, the direct struggle.

There is only one.

One law, one movement, one revolution.

Only one. Oh, God. So anyway, when it comes to oppression, yeah, people can say that, like, that you, it's easy to say that, oh, your oppressor

should be very clear, but since the ending of slavery on like

a legislative sentence

in back like the 1800s,

part of the oppression of black

people has been intentionally to make

oppression seem as though that like

it's not there.

It's the gaslighting.

But by the time you finished your sentence,

by the time you're finished your sentence,

what you just said,

by the time that very sentence you uttered was said,

anyone who actually has ever experienced

even a little bit of oppression in their life has already left the room because they got bored and they were sneezing they were snoozing off well i mean i can i can because you're speaking the language of the enemy you're speaking the language of the bourgeoisie you have none of the clarity you have none of the enemy. You're speaking the language of the bourgeoisie.

You have none of the clarity.

You have none of the clarity of the actual revolutionary leaders in history.

You speak with a level of meticulous me.

You're not a revolutionary, correct.

So what do you argue with me about?

I said revolutionary leader, leader, keyword leader.

I'm not trying to lead anybody because it's not my place.

You're right.

You're not trying to lead anyone.

You're not trying to lead anyone.

You are actively following the bourgeoisie and shaiton.

Yeah, I'm not following the bourgeoisie.

You are following the shatown bourgeoisie.

I don't believe in your religions anyway, so it doesn't really matter.

You're following the shaiton, bourgeoisie.

You do believe in the religion.

It's called paganism and idol worship.

You believe in polytheism, paganism, and idol worship.

I don't actually.

Yes, you do.

Your gods are fake, so it doesn't really matter.

We don't have gods.

There's only one.

You literally talking about chayton.

Shaton is not a god.

He's a trickster, and you're following him, and you've been deceived. Yeah, but if you believe in Shatan, then you have to believe in a God, which is the point I was making. So what? There's one God. There's one cause. There's one history. There's one man. Your God is not real. Alah is not real. You can say that. You can say that.

It means nothing.

That's like saying

existence is not real.

That's like saying

being is not real.

That's like saying

reality is not real.

Okay, you're crazy.

No, I'm not crazy.

That's like saying meaning is not real if you're saying meaning is unreal

what are you trying to communicate as you speak your your god doesn't exist all doesn't exist

and yeah if if meaning doesn't exist what you're mixing in politics and religion and that's why you have

what are you trying to communicate if meaning does not exist, what are you trying to communicate? And that's why you have the horrible political.

What are you trying to communicate?

If meaning does not exist, then what are you trying to communicate?

I didn't say that meaning doesn't exist.

So explain the meaningfulness behind intersectionality, because I tried to give, I tried to entertain one of the prongs of intersection I, which you called

women's liberation, which means, and get this, imagine you're an Appalachian rule, Appalachian, living

in a deindustrialized, devastated town. And this person comes and tells you, the key to liberation is that women can have abortions at any period, at any time, without any restriction for any reason.

And the second thing is we're going to have more representation.

And the third thing is we're going to have bias training to change how we talk about things.

How does that affect reality, though?

And where's the reality?

It's very clear that you don't have a very good grasp of people's material reality because

having access to abortion when you're impoverished is actually key to being able to have control over your financial

situation but abortion's already legal but abortion is already legal be quiet it's not legal

everywhere what are you talking about literally that's the whole thing if it has gotten to a point

okay you are poor having an, not having a baby that you cannot afford puts you more

into poverty. Having ability to control your reproductive labor is literally key to being able to

have control over your financial state. So yes, poor people in Appalachia would benefit to being able to to have control over your financial state.

So yes, poor people in Appalachia would benefit from being able to have access to abortion.

But nobody said, nobody just said they should have access to abortion.

You're saying for it to be liberation, it has to be unlimited, unrestricted abortion at any period at any time.

For gendered liberation, yes. Even eight months. Yes. For gendered liberation, yeah. That's a different

conversation, though. Then you will never be able to make the case to people who are evangelicals.

You're going to just reinforce the people who say there should be none at all.

Because that's exactly what they say.

They say the liberals want to be able to kill babies at eight months.

And you're basically like, it's true, actually.

Such people do exist and I'm talking to one.

I'm not trying to appeal to them because I'm not,

I'm not aligned with them.

I don't align with people who are horrible people who are horrible people who are rapists.

I do not care what they think.

Go to the ghetto in Detroit.

I can even recommend some neighborhoods

you can go to. Talk to

some black people, woman,

men, whatever you want. And because

you're saying you're not aligned with these white people in

Appalachia. So if it's only black people you'll talk to,

then go to a black.

Those black people would understand the fact that having access to...

Really? You think, you think, you think that if you go and you tell them, I want abortions at eight months. I think that they can understand.

I think that they can understand as a black person that having the ability to control whether or not

they get pregnant, it impacts their financial standing. And that's what the core of it is,

is that a person has to be able to control

what does that have to do with unlimited,

unrestricted abortions?

Why are you moving the goalposts?

You're the one moving the goalpost, sir.

I'm really not.

You are.

Well, okay, well, is there anything else?

It seems like we can't see eye to eye on this.

Yeah, we can't see eye to eye because you are interested in aligning with people who fundamentally don't care about the human rights of other people.

And I want you to be, I want, I want you to understand something. I don't care about human rights of other people. And I want you to understand something.

I don't care about human rights.

It's not others.

It's very clear.

That's why I said you're embarrassing.

It's me who doesn't care about human rights.

Yeah, you don't care about human rights.

And like I said, that's why you're aligning with people who also don't care about human rights.

It's embarrassing. Because it's a liberal invention. It's a horrible political position and like I said, that's why you're aligning with people who also don't care about human rights.

It's embarrassing. It's a horrible political position.

You're never going to get what you're looking for

because you fundamentally don't understand

that the human rights underpinning it

has to be the center of the advocacy that you're doing.

It must be destroyed.

For sure.

Human rights are core to being able to achieve the goals that you want to achieve.

It's liberalism.

Okay.

Well, then if you think that human rights are liberalism, then I guess call me a liberal then because I think that people should have

Now we understand each other finally.

I think people should.

That's it.

That's all I wanted

them to admit.

All then. So what's going on?

Sneako with the five.

Wow, is that...

It's Sneiko.

What's up, man?

Thank you for the five.

Shaiton, that's a really bad name.

Appreciate the five, man, though, but I appreciate it.

Okay, so,

uh,

oh,

Sneko was watching me on his stream.

Wow.

He wanted to talk to me?

No,

he didn't.

Uh, hold on I think he was just chilling I think he was just chilling honestly think he was just chilling. I think he was just chilling.

Honestly, I think he was just chilling.

Call?

On what?

He said he was going to call.

What?

Where? what where but? But how?

I don't have them on Discord

and I

he didn't message me on X

I'm checking X right now I, he didn't message me on X.

I'm checking X right now.

Call on Discord.

Bro, I don't have him on Discord.

Oh, on Kik.

Let me see.

Let me check my K kick DMs then.

Guys, chill out. I got you, all right?

He's reaching out right now. Where?

This is the front page of kick. Don't judge me for this shit.

Ice Poseidon is... Bro, why am I having to do a survey on kick?

All right. There's no DMs on kick

I don't know

Twitter

I'll check

I'm checking

X

Oh nice nice All right I think X.

Oh, nice, nice. All right. I think this is your Discord.

All right.

All right. I'll add Sneko.

All right.

Added. guys you got to chill out.

I added him. All right. Am I still on TikTok?

Yes, I am actually.

There's a crazy person requesting on TikTok.

I'm not going to accept that.

They're just going to spam slurs on the TikTok. I'm not going to accept that. They're just going to

spam slurs on the TikTok.

Check

Twitter.

I added him on

Discord.

I think he saw it.

He saw it.

There's a check mark.

So

maybe it's not working or what?

Call him?

I'm checking friends.

I don't think he added me back.

Sneak-o. Call him. I'm checking friends. I don't think he added me back. Sneako love speech is Discord, right?

Let me see if I added a period.

Maybe it's wrong.

Try to add again.

All right.

This one.

Okay. all right this one okay wait yeah i added it's uh hold on i can't i can't message him because he didn't respond Send me a DM on Twitter

Yeah, I got it Sambro, what's up, bro?

Appreciate you.

Check his stream.

Oh, he doesn't know my name.

Let me see.

All right, hold on.

Wait, why the fuck won't it show my name?

Streamer mode is enabled.

What the fuck?

Hold on. You know, All right.

All right.

He still doesn't have my Discord name.

I got a disable streamer mode.

Because I can't even fucking see it.

Okay.

Yeah, I got it all right

can't find my discord what the literal interference straight up

federal

interference

um All right, he said he just branded me.

Yo, what the fuck?

Bro.

What is going on?

Oh, wait, hold on. I got it.

Oh, there was the period.

I didn't include the period.

I thought he just sent it with the period.

There was no period.

That's why.

That's why.

There was a period under his name or after his name.

That's why.

Bro, why the fuck you calling me an idiot?

All right.

Is this a video call?

I might have to do the video call. I might have to do the video call.

Yeah.

Oh my God. I don't know. I may close

the stream.

Should I cam up or what?

Yes, sir. Salamal ala. Is there an echo? Uh, yeah, a little bit.

Oh, let me turn to... I might have to put up my headphones.

Camera.

All up.

All right. It's probably me.

Is it better?

Yep.

No echo?

Hold on.

Let me see you.

Yeah, it was actually a little bit of an echo.

The headphones on.

Okay, okay.

Let's see.

Oh, I think I hear you.

Okay, we good or what's going on? Let's see. Oh, I think I hear you.

Okay, good, or what's going on?

What's going on?

So I'm anti-communism.

I don't want Islamist comedy allegations, but it's nice to see you again.

I haven't spoken to you a couple of years.

Well, I think we only spoke one time.

It was like really brief or something.

And I actually don't remember. It was.

Yeah, I don't think we spoke that much.

But Mom Dany's doing well in New York.

And I'm not a socialist or a communist, but they said that New York was going to get destroyed, and he's doing great here.

Yeah, but I don't even like Mamdani. That's how extreme I am.

Oh, well, I don't, I condemn that.

I mean, that's chill. I mean so what do you believe in I was listening to some of your stream um so I'm chairman of the American Communist Party

and um what I believe in is that I think that, you know,

the fundamental source of evil in our society is the rule of mammoth.

It's the rule of money.

And our society has to be governed by some kind of principle that acknowledges and recognizes the common good as supreme.

And, you know, I just think we worship the dollar, we worship money, and it's a form of idol worship at this point.

You think it's shark to use money?

No, no. Not to use money? No, no.

Not to use it.

But to place that as the supreme principle that should guide everything about how society is structured,

plus everything that motivates people to live and exist, I think that has, at this point, it's just

incompatible with civilization as we know it. Well, how about instead of eradicating money,

because there's going to be some need for a currency, it just shouldn't be privatized and, you know, there shouldn't be a debt slavery.

People shouldn't be controlled the way that they are with this current financial system.

That's what we believe, you know.

Now, if money gets, it wouldn't say it would get abolished, but hypothetically down the line, if technology gets to such a point where we don't need money anymore and we have a different way of calculating the production and allocation of goods, then there's nothing wrong with that. But in principle, there's nothing inherently evil about money existing.

But, and yeah, the private control thing, that's the point.

It's like the Federal Reserve is a private cartel of banks.

And that has a monopoly on how money is printed, how it comes into being.

And, you know, the thing about that is that when they print the money, it's on our dime anyway.

We pay for it.

So are you essentially saying that maybe it just shouldn't be privatized the way it is?

The Federal Reserve has too much power.

Inflation is debt slavery.

And there should be a different system because I think when people say destroy the system and replace it, it's like, I feel like it's just a cycle.

Where you see, like, Hassan Pike will say socialism is the end result of capitalism, and then you get communism from socialism.

Doesn't it just always go in a circle?

In a way, yes, actually, I think so.

But I think that's life.

Life is a circle, right?

You have to keep the circle going,

or else you have corruption into death, you know?

I think societies

are similar, actually.

I do think that

even if we have

communism, even if we have

socialism, there's

going to be a new cycle,

and that's completely

fine.

But right now,

we're not up,

we're not fulfilling

our obligations

in this story arc,

right? The bad guys are winning,

they're in control, and they're not

being challenged in any kind of way.

And I think even to do the bare minimum of

just have a state bank, just forget

about everything else, let's just say,

state bank, we're going to abolish the Federal

Reserve, we're going to eliminate usury.

That's going to have to be the equivalent

to a revolution. That's as

radical as a communist revolution

because they're going to treat it the exact

same way. They're not going to relinquish power

however moderate we want to be.

Yeah, so most of my chat, for example,

are right leading

in theory, but

in practice, it's like even then I saw your DM

from two years ago where I was talking about

the Haitians eating cats

and dogs story, which is pushed around by Trump.

They're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats, and then people start saying,

yeah, that's base and, yeah, racism,

that's just a way to silence us.

It's like, wait, this story is false.

This is not even true.

And then you realize they're doing this to

garner a white populist movement

to pretend like there are a base nationalists

who care about putting America first when in fact

they are not actually anti-immigration.

If they were, then they would have been issuing tons

of H-1B visas. They said like, oh yeah,

being a lib is stupid.

And then he realized, like, the only separating issues

between the left and the right, really, and the cultural war slop is just transgender

stuff.

And Mamdani, for example, a lot of people are apprehensive, like, oh, no, look, he's

jumping up and down at a Pride Parade, which is, like, that's not good.

But ever since he came into office as the mayor of New York City, he got rid of a $12 billion deficit. All the Zionists said that they were

going to leave and that the city was going to be destroyed. The city has revived to the best

place has been since the 90s. Culturally, people are happy again.

He introduced child daycare, which is like, oh, you're like a socialist because you don't

want child daycare.

So we could spend 70% of our budget to the military industrial complex for these forever wars

to fight Iran for no reason, Iraq for no reason.

But you can't have daycare or health care.

Israel is the greatest ally. They have health care. So I think a lot of people are told and brainwashed

that these so-called socialist policies are liberal and left to make you allied with the right

wing, which they're really not promoting anything

conservative at all. There's nothing conservative

about Trump's administration. I had

these people earlier in my chat, oh, you were just

loyal to Trump. It's like, what is he doing

that's good? He's like, he's not a lib. Okay,

well, how is he a conservative? Because he just like he's not a lib okay well how is he a conservative because

he just had the white house UFC card and there's girls twerking there you have only fans rampant

all over the country it's more common than ever for girls 18 to 24 to be on only fans

where are the conservative values so i think people need to rethink this stuff because I think they trick you with culture

war slop to prevent you from understanding how the economy can be improved with policies they

deem liberal when in fact they would help a working people.

Yeah, I mean, I think the right wing is a dead end fundamentally. I think the whole thing was a con and a grift. But if you want to know my more long-term perspective, if I don't know why I'm skeptical of Mamdani, I think what actually happened is that the majority of people are actually left-wing. They hate the system. They don't want to be ruled by the economic elites who rule us. And they do want something equivalent to some kind of socialism. I think that's just the majority of people. But what I think was very smart what the elites did. They took over the left. They hijacked it. They made it

all about the culture war stuff. They made it all

about the things that most people

actually don't really fuck with.

The extreme political

correctness, the woke stuff.

And that actually is the number one thing

that drove people to the right

in my opinion, in my observation.

People were driven. Yeah, because they couldn't

tell jokes anymore because

they saw these institutions that were pushing

these like crazy cultural agendas and

stuff. And people could see

what was fake versus what was real.

Trump spoke his mind.

Right-wingers tended to say all the bad words and all the things that they wanted to say.

But what they didn't understand is that institutionally, they were being herded into the Republican Party,

which already had a preordained agenda of, you know, war mongering, Zionism,

all the same things that we're familiar with. But where I'm coming at it with Mamdani is that

two things. One, I think the Democratic party is doing the same thing

in the long term the goal of democratic party is the same thing as the republican

party

the worry i have with mom donnie is he's just people are getting sick of the

republican party so what now we're going to go back to the democrats

and then the second problem i have with Mamdani is that I also think he isn't enough to unify the country, actually.

I think New Yorkers like Mamdani.

I think people in blue states and blue areas

might be receptive to Mamdani, but

is a Mamdani

going to be the guy that goes to rural Appalachia

or the Midwest or the Rust Belt

and, you know,

usher any kind of change? No, because they'll fundamentally

reject him, you know, because he's too liberal no because they'll fundamentally reject him you know

because he's too liberal and so on because the cultural war slot but they won't reject him for

his no economic policies it's because of culture war in fact i think a step in the right yeah

go ahead in fact i think people would want more than just what he's offering not in the sense

of more free handouts but go to war with the bankers more aggressively you know crack down on

these financial institutions that are raping the nation more aggressively and more decisive he

is separating

quite a bit from the Democrat Party

and they're now having to adjust. He pulled them in a

direction that nobody else is pulling him.

So I think that's

overall good, especially when it comes

to what should be focused on. The average

debt in Gen Z is $90,000.

That's insane.

Baby boomers, at 30 years old,

over 50% of baby boomers were able to be married and own a house at 30.

In this generation, it's 10%.

So the American dream today was the norm for baby boomers.

That needs to be addressed and nobody's addressing it.

So I also like

the fact that they all, the design is

hate him. That's the most important issue.

Also, he's not born in America. He can't ever run for president.

He's not going to lead America. But I

noticed that he's changing

the rhetoric, which is, this is overall

good. What I think is important now is to

ally with people that have an overall good

message and are fighting for

what is ultimately good. For example,

James Fishback is running for governor in Florida.

I talked to him on stream, and I pointed out the fact that his campaign 100% was inspired by Mamdani, even though he's a Republican, he's on the right wing.

And he's saying his opponent, Byron Donald's who's funded by APEC, is black.

He's using, like, right wing talking points.

Oh, he's black. He's Jewish. He's using right-wing talking points. Oh, he's black.

He's Jewish. He's this.

It still is clearly inspired by Mamdani.

So there is a new shift in American politics to gain a populist movement

not based solely on cultural

war slot, but on the issues that really matter.

James Fishanak is here saying that there shouldn't be Peter Thiel data centers being set up all over Florida,

saying that they should tax only fans, which in a way could be considered a communist or socialist talking point.

He's openly saying he wants more taxes, but everybody

is on board because it follows the

culture war side of the issue.

Yeah, I mean, look, I think people

like Zoran are definitely tapping

into some kind of zeitgeist.

I just have a more long-term perspective,

because I know how the party machine works. I know how the Democrats will field someone who seems like they're a rebel or they're against them. But the goal is actually to keep people in the two-party system and locked in. And if you pay close attention to who Amdani fills his cabinet with and some of the moves

that he's making behind the scenes, it's not really reassuring as far as where his loyalty's

really lying.

I also want to finally say, Zionism isn't just APEC.

It's a big myth.

We're told that it's all about APEAC. That's with the proxy for Zionism.

But if you read the language carefully of some of these people who, you know, you think are enemies of Israel because of how they talk about A-PAC, they'll very much focus their attention to Netanyahu.

Why? Because just like in America, in Israel, you have different wings.

You have a liberal wing, and you have the Netanyahu wing.

And so the Democrats are more aligned with the liberal Zionists, like Jay Street and others, who are just as much, you know, oppressors of the Palestinians and just as much war mongers and so on and so on. But they just have different domestic policies within Israel.

And this is a new strategy.

I'm sure you've seen it where Israelis will say,

oh, I don't agree with everything Bibi Nanyahu says.

And it's like, well, you still benefit off of his policies and what he's doing.

He's like, oh, Ben Gavir is an extremist.

It's like, well, where is the, so this is how they, it's not all those Israelis as

BB.

It's not all, you know, only 95% of Jews or Zionists, which that's true, but it's a way to

alleviate yourself from any blame.

Okay, so what about people like Hassan? So you're saying Mamdani is too

much of a Democrat. He's too liberal. There was just an election today in New York City. It seems

like everybody he backed one. So there is a major shift. New York City is the center of culture.

Do you align with Hassan Piker on issues? What's your

opinion on him? Maybe there's some we do align on probably, foreign policy-wise. I would say

is a strong one. I think Hassan. I appreciate he's skeptical of NATO. I appreciate that he is more pro-China.

I appreciate that he's more skeptical of U.S. intervention abroad.

But ultimately, Hassan domestically, I think, is still attached to the Democratic Party.

And I think that if that were to change, that would be very nice.

And I also think that Hassan made many mistakes throughout his career, such as attaching

himself to the more kind of politically correct censorship, woke stuff.

That kind of made the left. politically correct, censorship, woke stuff.

That kind of made the left have a bad rap, in my view.

Wasn't that smart to gain a really strong populist movement?

You look at the average fan of his, and it's a classic LGBT person.

Mom Dani got so popular too for the same reasons.

I actually had the same strategy at the end of Trump's campaign.

It became clear he was going to win.

And I put on the MAGA hat

and I had the American flag wrapped around

and I had this debate with Rabbi Shmully.

And Shmoli's chimping out

and I'm saying I want to put America first.

Aid to Israel is not patriotic. This is

incorrect. I think it sounds

been public about that. He sees it as that he's infiltrating

the left to get them

to side with his real

policies. I saw the same thing. I see

like the right wing and the Republicans

is, like, people will really just vote

for somebody because they're like, oh, he said transgenderism

shouldn't be in men's sports. So

that side here. And again,

they look at the Zionist rhetoric. They'll say

the Islamist Marxist alliance.

The jihadist...

Much more base than the reality, I think.

But it sounds very nice, you know, what they say about Hassan and about...

Look, I mean, I don't hate Hassan Piker, and I want to be good faith and assume that he's playing some kind of long game.

But, you know, at the same time, we just have to wait and see the proof is in the pudding.

I think at some point decisively there's going to be a confrontation with the Democratic Party.

At some point decisively, all the anti-Zionists,

all the dissidents in this country,

we're going to have to get rid of the gatekeeping.

We're going to have to get rid of the purity testing.

Also on the right, especially.

On the right, there's a lot of purity testers

when it comes to the fact that America is a

multiracial nation. It's never going to be a nation of just white people or just black people or

something like that. And I think right-wingers who, you know, currently identify with the right,

but understand that the priority is against the Epstein class and so on, they also have to start being a little more chill about the culture stuff as well. They have to get their priorities in order. But liberal leftists have to do the same thing people like hasan should talk to more dissidents

across this you know the aisle so to speak and um that's what i promote that's what i aspire toward and

but the the reason that's not very smart or

calculated is because

I get hated equally by both sides

um

oh yeah me too

yeah I mean like that's the position

I'm in it's like both of the sides

absolutely hate my guts

and we'll claim

that, oh,

you know,

you're a liberal,

you know,

whatever.

And then the liberals

call me a fascist

and a Nazi and so on

and so on.

Yeah.

I mean, I get called a terrorist, neo-Nazi, white supremacist, Islamist.

I got banned for Australia for all those labels.

From Australia, wow.

Yeah, this just happened.

Same thing the news is saying, I'm a jihadist Nazi these words really have no meaning anymore

but I saw you were saying

you speak to the Shaitan person

are you, are you Syrian? Where are you from?

No, Lebanese, I'm Lebanese. Both my parents.

Oh, you're Lebanese. You're Lebanese.

Okay, so yeah, it's we got to stand up. You're Lebanese. Okay, so, yeah,

we've got to stand up for Lebanon right now.

It's insane what's happening.

Benegovir is saying, all of Lebanon must burn.

It's good. Now I know another Lebanese,

well, besides Arab, the only other Lebanese streamer.

Are you, your Shia?

Yeah, both my parents.

But you too, correct?

Yeah, yeah, me too.

I went to Lebanon too, and I met the Shias out there.

When did you go?

I went in the summer of 2024.

I went to Dahi, actually, which is a...

Do you into Zahia in Beirut?

In Beirut, yeah.

And I think they had a Wi-Fi jammer

because the streaming backpack went out as soon as I crossed the line in.

But I streamed in Beirut.

It's interesting.

You were in summer 24, right?

Right before, it was literally four days before it was hit.

Literally four days.

Yeah.

So I was there for the funeral of Nasrullah in February 25.

I went with Jackson and others.

And I saw the site at which the the missile hit in the Dahlia and that's when I visited Lebanon and I got to see all the destruction and stuff that Israel inflicted. But that was actually my first time going ever.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

But, you know, I have very good memories of Lebanon.

I think it's a really nice place.

No, it is.

Did you visit the South?

No, I only went for a couple days.

I stayed in Beirut the whole time.

Probably not going to go anytime soon, but it was...

Yeah, no, it's not safe.

That happens a lot where, you know, it goes somewhere and then the war happens right after.

But I wanted to ask, do you see communism as a vehicle

to push your faith? Does that come first? You know, because others on the right wing, they clearly

put their politics before their faith.

Well, for me, I don't see a distinction between them.

I think the distinction between the secular and the sacred is actually a more modern thing, right?

And if you ask people who are fighting in, you know, Islamic revolutions, what else can you call them

in uprisings?

A thousand years ago, like, what are your politics?

What are your faith? It's the same thing. It's a struggle.

Right?

In the modern age, we have a unique

necessity of articulating that faith in the modern age, we have a unique necessity of articulating that faith in the terms of the modern age.

You know, I don't think we can just fall back on what existed before the 1800s or something, right?

We have to somehow understand the meaning of having faith today and what that sounds like, what that looks like. And I disagree with a lot of Muslims on that point because I don't think we could just trad LARP. I think we actually have to accept the world that we live in

is not one we can divide between the material and the spiritual.

I think Islam actually tries to be the middle road

between those two things,

but also combine and synthesize them, you know?

Well, could you explain that a little

more in depth? I don't understand.

Yeah, I mean, like, material.

Yeah, well, conventionally speaking,

you know, we divide the religious

from the material world. So,

we indulge materially, we participate in the material world,

and then on Sunday we go to church,

and we pray to God to forgive us, or we think about heaven.

But I think Islam is different,

and always had a different outlook,

in that it didn't separate those things.

It understood that both the spiritual and the material plane

occupy in some sense the same reality that we experience and live in.

That doesn't mean fanaticism and fundamentalism, but it does mean understanding that even the

material world we live in is sacred, and that our obligations to our fellow man is a sacred

obligation, our obligation to enforce justice in this world and on this plane is a sacred and spiritual obligation.

Don't you think that's more of a Christian issue? Because you say like, okay, you can drink and gamble and do whatever all week and then Jesus saves you on Sunday.

But even like how many people are really going to church anymore?

Where do you see a disagreement with Muslims? Where is that Muslim rhetoric?

I think in Western Christianity, because I think Orthodox Christianity is actually different.

It's more similar to Islam, I think.

Absolutely.

But Western Christianity did develop in such a way that it acutely separated a division

between the material and the spiritual.

And that's why you had Protestant fundamentalism correspond at the same exact time to the most unregulated, unholy form of modern capitalism.

And I think the best example of the – look at the evangelical churches in the U.S.

You have that preacher,

I don't know if you've seen Kenneth Copeland

or whatever his name is. He looks like a demon.

Right, right.

His eyes look like Erica Kirks

and Bonnie Blues combined.

Right. That's like such an example of how

somehow these two things are allowed to coexist

the most shameless greed and material indulgence and sin actually in the world with this pretension to high heaven, you know?

And I think that's that trajectory is responsible for the fundamental dysfunction of today's civilization.

Is that the result of the Enlightenment era and modernization?

What, because they say America's built on Christian values, well, kind

of, but it's equally paired with

Freemasonry, one, the occult,

but more publicly, you have the Enlightenment,

you have, you know, European

philosophy, can't hume,

the idea that you could find

you know, divinity from within, that you're supposed to expand, that you can go into space.

This was not really the teachings of Jesus. This is more European philosophy and separate ideas, and this is what created America.

Well, there's a thinker I follow a lot and I draw a lot from.

His name is Michael Hudson.

And he identifies the tendency within Western civilization that I'm talking about

with the consolidation of power by usurious creditor classes. So the actual, the whole thing

actually has its origins in some sense in debt, but not just debt, because debt is a normal

part of civilization, but debt that begets debt, so usury, right?

And the usurers through ancient Greece,

ancient Greece was founded by usurers,

ancient Rome was founded by usurers,

feudal Europe was actually controlled and ruled

by creditors and usurers.

And finally, the Italian city-states and mercantile republics usury, you know, the Dutch Republic, the British, the origins of modernity.

This is all one trajectory of the history of the

usurious oligarchical

creditor class using

the instrument of

political and state and even

religious power. Because there was a point in the

history of the Catholic Church

where creditors literally took

over the church and

were appointing who the Pope was

and it was the period in the Middle Ages

was called the pornocracy

and people should look it up. It's very interesting.

The Crusades were

all about this actually had

nothing to do with religion

the crusades the first target of the crusades was the capital of the

Byzantine Empire

Constantinople and they massacred

orthodox Christians

they were actually the primary victims if you ask me of the. But in any case, it had nothing to do with religion. It was about the interests of the various creditor classes that ruled Europe that were turning these crusader systems into systems of the extraction of credit, right?

We see this today.

I mean, Christianity, it's well practiced in Russia and it's there's more credit, the Eastern Orthodox, and Pope Leo saying the right things.

But in America especially, it's mostly just used as a populist

tool. These people don't go to church. They don't know the religion

at all. They have falsely equated race

with faith and added whiteness onto

Christianity, which is completely against

Jesus' teachings. And these people

have just used it as a tool to then push

empire, right?

This is why you get the mega church and the Erica

Kirk rhetoric and people like Vance,

people like Marco Rubio,

Ted Cruz, Huckabee, all of them

have just used Christianity to not worship Jesus

but worship Jews in Israel. It's not

at all the authentic Christianity, but to expand empire.

It's been politicized and completely infiltrated.

People get uncomfortable when you talk about that, but there's no other reality that's currently

existing in America.

And if you actually look at the norm

for most of human history, by the way,

most civilizations

wiped out debt periodically.

It's another thing Michael Hudson will point out.

It was called the practice of the debt jubilee.

So when Jesus gave his first sermon on the Mount, the first sermon he gave to the world,

he declared the restoration of the biblical Jubilee year, which was a periodic cycle that the Abrahamic peoples

at that time the Jews

would do to wipe out debts periodically.

It was a very common practice in the Middle East in the Bronze Age.

And in Christian Orthodox civilization,

usury was banned.

In Islamic civilization,

the biggest, I think it was

the only sin

that God declared war on in the Quran

was Usury, actually.

And when the prophet came to the world, he sought to eradicate usury. And this is why Islamic empires didn't have this.

So if you notice the norm of human civilization is integration, people fusing together, not on the basis of race or racial purity, just fusing together, creating some kind of framework of coexistence and shared values and so on and so on.

And then if you look at the trajectory of European civilization, it's always been balkanization,

political fragmentation, fragmenting into different policies and statelets.

And this is what gives rise to the ideas of racism and racialism and so on and so on.

But a lot of people know it's all a consequence of this kind of deeper war between creditors trying to cling to power on the basis of usury and people seeking liberation through, you know, alleviating the debts, you know.

The Lord's Prayer, where it says, Lord, forgive us of our sins, originally the word sin

actually meant debt.

So the whole Christian movement from the very outset

was not about eliminating sin for, you know,

guilt and engaging in vices and stuff.

It was a movement to abolish the debt that

had accumulated during the Roman Empire

actually. So if you're more interested in this

specific topic, I really would recommend

Michael Hudson on that, because he's very comprehensive.

So

but then

what about Carl Marx? So he's the pioneer of communist ideology, was a Jew, and did he actually care about the people, or was this a vehicle to accelerate a new sort of empire why is this somebody worth listening to and following

well carl marks first got his break writing about something that was happening in germany

so in germany at the time there was a historical

practice where peasants would go to the forest

they'd collect branches of

tree uh you know from trees

that would fall on the ground

and they would use that to heat their homes

and nobody gave a shit it was totally normal

it was totally commonplace it was like the

default thing that people would do like nobody would whatever but because of the rise of

capitalism there was a new law being put into place that says this is a form of theft

actually if you go to the park, you know, the public forest or whatever, and you take wood to heat your home so you don't freeze in the

winter, you're actually stealing. We're actually going to commodify this now, right? So this is

actually what happens. It's so it even should sound familiar. There's so many things that used to be free that they just arbitrarily decide now has a price on it. Well, Marx began his entire journey into politics because he was fighting back against that defending these peasants who had no representation they had no voice nobody cared about them and mark stood up for them and from that point on he devoted his entire life to speaking for the oppressed and the working class. And when he was exiled from Germany,

the name that he earned in the press was Prometheus. Because, you know, how Prometheus stole fire from the

gods to give to mankind.

Marx was taking the accumulated knowledge of civilization,

and he believed that that could be given to the working class to liberate themselves.

Now, ethnically speaking, he was a Jew,

although he was raised a devout Christian, and he would write poems to Jesus and so on and so on. But he became disillusioned with the religion when he realized how it was being used as a tool of these political establishments

that really were a cover for the

just like today with the evangelical churches

they were a cover for the interests

of the oppressors

and by the way Marx himself he wrote

people talk about the JQ and the Jewish

question but Marx wrote an entire tract

literally called the Jewish question

on the Jewish question.

Is it true he was

funded by, I want to do to finish point?

In the Jewish question, Carl Marx himself said that the reason why Jews in our modern society are engaging in all this anti-social behavior and so on and so on,

is because we have actually materially embraced Judaism through capitalism.

We claim to be Christians.

We claim to be so spiritual and high and mighty.

But to be politically incorrect, he was basically saying,

we've all basically, we're all become Jews with capitalism.

We've all accepted this kind of

in the material world

we accepted Judaism. We just confined

our more lofty

ideals to the spiritual realm

every Sunday. So for Marx, he didn't believe that to solve the Jewish question, you should just continue, you know, attacking Jews or having a final solution or something like Hitler. He believed, let's actually free ourselves from material Judaism.

Let's free ourselves from capitalism, right?

And if we do that, the very foundation of these very peculiar characteristics we're observing among Jews, Rothschilds, and so on and so on, that wouldn't even exist anymore. When we make money the Supreme Principle, of course there's going to be Rothschilds. Of course, you're going to have very powerful Jews like Epstein and so on and so on. But that's because we've already adopted

or acquiesced to the terms and conditions that people like that breathe like air, you know?

Is it true that he was, I did some research on Marx

before and apparently his lineage

it comes from a generation of rabbis.

So I'm not doubting that he was a Christian,

but like his family line comes from rabbis.

Maybe that's true or not.

Maybe.

And that was he funded by Frederick Engels?

Yes.

And Frederick Angles is supposed to be a German capitalist.

And he supported transnational capital, which is the city of London, Wall Street.

You know.

No, Engels inherited a factory, which he used to fund Marx and himself, but he just had that one factory he inherited.

By the way, there's nothing within Marxism or communism that says,

you can't do the best that you can to participate in the modern society that you live in.

The views that we have on matters of principle

relating to politics, relating to the transformation of society, are not prescriptions for how you

should live your life right now. And it would be foolish if you inherited a factory, it would be foolish to get rid of that and say you know i renounce this and become a monk or something

it's absolutely logical to understand that anti-capitalism is not about moralism it's not about moralizing and saying if you're making money, you're a bad person. It's more about understanding that when it comes to the actual instruments of power that make this possible on a social level, that's in the hands of the state at this point the state is

enforcing the private property of black rock and wall street to own all of the homes all

of the means of production the natural resources the land the land, the minerals and so on and so on, the banks.

And that's only upheld because of the U.S. military. The way that society naturally evolves, just like we had capitalism at some point, society naturally evolves and

gravitates to something more socialistic.

People begin to have the expectation

of a more fair society, right?

But they're coming up

on a ceiling that is just

pure force, right?

So yes, Eng angles was a capitalist on a personal level in terms of his actual economic reality but marxism isn't about saying that capitalists are individually bad people uh marxism is about recognizing and understanding that capitalism as a social principle

has been outmoded by history and is only being maintained because of the corruption and the pure brute force of the state.

Okay.

I think there's something interesting there, but again,

you're going to hear the same talk of points that hasn't been worked on paper and stuff,

and, you know, Karl Marx's pro-dictatorship

and that they wanted to replace a society

with religion, with a society

that focuses on class division rather than

religious division.

But let's say that for another day. I appreciate getting a chance to speak to you again for

the first time in several years. Yeah, for sure. It's been a great conversation. I'm glad we

could finally talk. And yeah, hopefully we'll have another one

sometime.

Keep fighting the good fight, man.

Salam al-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-l-l-a. I appreciate you, man.

All right.

What an interesting night.

I had no expectation that...

Oh, I'm still live on TikTok.

That's crazy.

So we're going to end that.

Very interesting. interesting interesting night so uh okay i it's, we're safe to basically end the stream there, I think.

So what a great way to start the infrared renaissance am i right um what a blessing i gave this whole speech

for the first two hours about the infrared renaissance.

You just got to believe, you know?

That's all I could say.

Anyway, guys, I'll see you tomorrow.

See you tomorrow.

I got to go.

I got to eat some food.

See y'all tomorrow.