Haz vs Charmhole | InfraredShow Debate

hello

yeah

what's up king

yes what do you want to debatable

yo uh well first off i just want to say

thank you for everything you do you're

awesome every like if i had to name one

american leftist i think there is only

one and i think it's you i think it's

how's the cruel infrared show so thank

you for all the work

and uh yeah for real i really appreciate

you

like i don't i don't disagree with you

on most things

so

yeah keep your mother good work

everybody loves you appreciate it

and the people who hold you just don't

love you yet that's all really

so

so i posted in chat i didn't think

honestly i didn't think people would

freak out

but because i said the same thing about

uh derek chovin

but uh

i posted this on facebook too

uh written house we get the death

penalty now why

it's actually uh they don't have capital

punishment

so or illinois so

wait did you say why

yeah

because he's a murderer

he murdered people

yeah but

why you realize it was like self-defense

right

uh

to a degree

right like

if you go

if okay if you're if you go out in

public

with an assault rifle

you're like to me that's already pre

that's uh

what's it called when you

uh oh it's attempted murder if you go

out and you have a weapon ready for

murder that's attempted murder on

anybody who comes close that's not true

americans have a culture of larping with

open carry yeah

oh i know yeah no i know but to me like

this i'm not saying it's official like

because the american justice system is

anything but that's just not how our

culture is though you know maybe in a

different culture then that's what that

would be

but that's just not

the culture we live in we don't live in

a culture where that's what that means

uh

yeah no you're

you're right

uh we we live in a very uh

authoritarian

uh consumer-based culture that we live

in a culture that's a gun culture and

people don't people really don't

brandish guns

with the intention to actually use them

they just use they just display them as

a form of larp because americans do like

to larp americans like larping and they

like

you know pretending like they're in

scenarios that they actually aren't and

that's just how americans are so you're

saying mass shootings don't happen in

america

they do but that's that's not

just because someone is uh open caring

doesn't imply there's gonna be a mass

shooting those are premeditated and

deliberate

plant things that people plan out to do

but

yeah that's not the same thing as the

culture of open carry that exists in the

us

well okay so culture of open carry like

because i've been debating people listen

people like to be in zombie apocalypses

they like to have scenarios where

they're in wars or they're in you know

they're doing this they're doing that

that doesn't mean they actually want to

end up using it

but they do

um when as far as i can see rittenhouse

did it because he was severely attacked

by a bunch of people who really did look

like they wanted to do him harm

and possibly deadly harm

yeah because he had an assault rifle and

was yeah

no he had one just because it's open

carry no one he wasn't threatening

anyone he wasn't telling anyone he's

going to murder them

so

um highs i know you're smarter man come

on you're first off if we're going to

assume anything about like how this kid

feels

right we like

people who carry ar15s at protests

listen people it doesn't matter maybe

you're saying oh he was being

intimidating well then you should bring

your own to the protester maybe i would

say don't even go to the [ __ ] protest

in the first place but

you can't use that as an excuse to

attack someone and engage in lethal for

it oh they're threatening me well no uh

the law the law of the land is that open

carries allowed and also we have a

culture of open carry which very clearly

doesn't mean you're gonna use deadly

force just because you're carrying one

around

now is i feel like you're suggesting

that you would be okay with bringing

back gun dueling

but you're still you're anti no i'm not

i'm just saying

you can't complain about feeling

intimidated because

that's just how our culture is and

that's also what's a matter of the law

and you're free to bring your own ar-15

if you feel that intimidated and you

need the protection but otherwise

you can't say like oh he brought an

ar-15 and therefore that justifies

violence because i felt threatened by it

because well because i'm not an idiot

like for example let's say let's say in

a different context you were just

sitting in your house randomly and

someone just showed up in your house

with a gun yeah i get that that's

clearly a threat even if they're not

pointing it at you or whatever

that's a context that justifies it as a

threat but we live in a culture and a

society where open carries a fairly

common thing it's especially common at

these recent protests

um

and

you you can't say oh we were all

threatened because he had an ar-15 and

this justified the violence

yes i can and i will continue to and

even though like yeah but you're not

being honest when you say that you're

just not being honest

okay look if i see anybody with an

assault rifle if if i see anyone with an

assault rifle first off i'm not gonna

run up and and try to like punch him in

the head okay that's number one that's

that's on my do not do list okay and two

i'm gonna get out of his line of sight

immediately because i don't wanna get

shot in the [ __ ] head and die okay

well listen that's that's what you can

do that that's your you're free to do

that but yeah you can't use it as an

excuse for violence

okay

so you're saying

if i walk onto the highway and i get run

over

right

you're like you're trying to say oh well

why did you assume they were going to

run you over it's like no no that's not

true at all because i'm not into the

highway

listen

that analogy doesn't work in any way

okay look so when you when you listen

when you're walking on the highway right

in that case

you know cars are coming you're walking

in front of the cars they're probably

going to run you over you're not even

allowed to walk on the [ __ ] line you

had to

my cat was on the other side i had to

save my cat well you know the cars are

moving at a fast pace and you walked in

you ran me over and i died and you're

gonna be like yeah but

but here's the thing we have an open

carry culture that in no way implies the

same likelihood

of gun violence as there does as cars on

the highway imply that they're not going

to stop for you because it's a stupid

analogy

no it's not a stupid announcement yes it

[ __ ] is it's [ __ ] stupid you're

trying to say that assault rifles just

existing out in the open are somehow not

threatening and that a car who at two

ton car moving at 70 miles per hour is

also not threatening like what the [ __ ]

the car is not threatening it is 100

percent

sure and certain

to run you over there is like no chance

a car is going to be able to stop in the

middle of the highway

driving at you 70 miles per hour you're

gonna tell me you're not gonna feel a

little that's that's that's called a car

is not a threat it's a promise a car is

not a threat it's a promise okay

it will happen you will get run over if

you run in the middle of the highway

there's almost 100 guarantee of that oh

the charlottesville protesters that

what does that have to do with anything

well they got run over by a car and

[ __ ] killed right

so you're telling me and you're like oh

it wasn't a dark because the car you can

get out of the way come on man no that's

not what i said i said if you go on you

didn't listen you misunderstood what i

just [ __ ] said i said on the highway

if you run on the highway it's not just

a threat it's a promise you're not it's

not like you know

the car is gonna threaten to run you

over the car will run you over because

it's already moving at 70 miles an hour

and you're on the highway where you're

not supposed to be right

so i don't know why you're bringing up

some other example what i'm trying to

say is that in the case of someone

carrying an ar-15

it's not true that a better comparison

would be like someone's already shooting

and you run in front of their

the gunfire well that would be similar

to running in front of a highway but

just because someone is brandishing or

open carrying

at a protest does not in any way

necessarily imply that they're going to

use it well we're getting a little off

topic uh because i like originally my

point is that he deserves the death

penalty i've been lying against why does

he deserve the [ __ ] about 10 years let

me ask you a question do you really

think he deserves the death penalty or

are you just whipped up on a frenzy on

this polarization and you just want to

assume that the ultra left position you

just want to like you hate written house

not because of anything that actually

happened but because

you

you it's a tribalistic thing where you

just hate the guy who represents the

right wing and you want to

do you want to have the most extreme

tribal position possible no i i both

first off both i agree with both those

positions and also i have both those

positions and also i want him to have

the death penalty to terrify any fan

that he might have

i want to i want to stretch that's not

going to tear that's listen that's not

going to terrify

that would not terrify any fan that's

just going to inflame the anger of 50

percent of this country even more you

didn't see him ball on

in court

yeah i don't know what his reasons for

doing that were but no they're totally

impervious to fear they're like come on

yeah you're not going listen terrified

and he's pissing and [ __ ] his pants

on the [ __ ] trial on the stand

because he does yeah because he's being

listen i don't i think you're

are you trying to imply that

all the conservatives are crying like he

is instead of being outraged because him

crying actually just made them more

angry

well most cops are afraid to get the

vaccination right so if you're gonna

like my line of thinking here because

the vaccination

and that's because the vaccination just

like the [ __ ] written house trial

became politicized

yeah

and polarized and you're doing the same

[ __ ]

yeah okay and like listen i'm i'm ready

to like if you can give me a good enough

reason yeah okay i'll be like [ __ ] that

was stupid of me i rescind it right but

from what my position what i can see is

that as far as cause and effect goes

right as far as karma goes as far as

real actual justice goes if you have a

side that continues to use their power

unchallenged and unabated they will

continue power are you talking about

what are you what are you talking about

specifically what their their power

unchallenged unabated like what

specifically are you referring to

okay well earlier when you said he was

larping who was he larping at

who's larping as a like militia guy

libertarian militia basically right huh

yeah

he's basically blurping as a cop

because although no not really

well okay so really he's

okay actually that's that is unfair

you're right he's more larping as like a

national guard because i remember when

ferguson happened national guard rolled

up with assault rifles no that's not how

they actually see it so this is one of

the things about the miscommunication

i'm talking about

they don't see it that way they see

themselves as freedom fighting

militiamen

who are fighting an authoritarian

government

and you know they're they're

that's how they see it they they don't

see it like

as acting on behalf of the authorities

are you okay so you're you got twitter

brain man i'm sorry to say this but you

got twitter brain okay dude you have

twitter brain you just adopted the

position that you want to

you want the death penalty for like an

18 year old kid for absolutely no

discernable reason

oh i got my reasons i just named three

two of them you named for me

hey what are the so the two reasons i

named for you was pointless tribalism

and the second one was

what virtue signaling so what's the

third one like what is the third reason

you have well other than he also

deserves it because he's a nazi who

murdered humans

okay also to terrify anybody who would

align themselves politically with him

yeah but that wouldn't be the effect of

him being executed you know no we don't

do it

you're just going to inflame tensions

way more than they already are

yes

yes i am that's the whole point dude

like that's what you talk about every

[ __ ] stream is getting people mad

enough to [ __ ] act and here i am mad

enough to say something edgy and then

you're gonna be like whoa bro calm down

man shut the [ __ ] up

come on bro what the [ __ ] what i'm

[ __ ] trying to say

is that if that kind of [ __ ] happens you

are going to see a level of resistance

and pushback

from rural america and i don't want to

[ __ ] see that happen right now

because i think if a civil broke or

civil war broke out in this country it

would unleash a lot of ugly forces and i

i want to win over the people to the

communist party and i don't want them to

be led along

by these like opportunistic elements

leading them through a civil war

which i think is going to be completely

pointless and uh very ugly

so i don't want to see that right now i

want to be able to have a chance to win

people over first so this civil war

doesn't happen at least uh god forbid

them storm in the capital right oh wait

oh [ __ ] that already happened then uh

for much pay but if you thought storming

the capital was bad then if they

executed written house dude

what yeah that happened

it would be much worse

okay what would be it

what would it much much worse

okay so you you are now

you're you're using your

massive amount of intelligence and

empathy

on these people who do not deserve it

right like you mean fifty percent of the

monster you're talking about fifty

percent of the country

like yeah okay fifty percent yeah you're

being played like a fiddle in a game

that you don't even [ __ ] understand

you realize that this game that you're

being played is that you you're turning

against 50 percent of people you don't

even know why you [ __ ] hate them

uh first off i'm more of a gamer than

you'll ever be so don't tell me i'm

getting played all right 1v1 me rocket

league i will literally coach you in

rocket league and we'll tell you i'll

tell you who the gamer is all right

second what [ __ ] game you're going to

talk about politics the political game

you mean when in 2000 [ __ ] five i

woke up on a sunday morning and they

were executing saddam hussein live on

[ __ ] cable television you're gonna

tell me that i don't know that i'm

getting played by the game after i've

listened to you talk for hundreds of

hours come on man

no you don't know the [ __ ] game about

how you're getting whipped up on this

fake polarization

and being taught to hate people you

don't even know or understand or have

any reason to hate

i look i did my research my quick little

research i go on this little website i

don't know if you've heard of it it's

called 4chan and they got no it's not

about [ __ ] 4chan okay when you're

going 4chan those people are in [ __ ]

silicon valley in [ __ ] basements and

[ __ ] they're nerds the real [ __ ]

people that are whipped up by the

[ __ ] written house most of them are

good people that feel like they're under

attack and they feel like the democrats

are using extra paramilitary violence to

crack down on dissent and they're

actually good people who feel like

they're under assault and under attack

and you're honestly vindicating their

[ __ ] feelings oh by saying that a

murderer deserves to

die by the state he's he he was acting

in self-defense he didn't go out of his

way to murder people

self-defense doesn't mean murder those

people are still alive

come on no self defense does not mean

murder actually

uh

okay well i don't give a [ __ ] about uh

whatever the justice system or whatever

grammar nazis have to say about whatever

i know

that when i see somebody walking in

public with an assault rifle i know like

i said to get out of their line of sight

because i know that they have the

ability to very easily [ __ ] murder me

someone with a car also has that highway

hold on because i'll get so that does

that mean when you see someone driving

with a car you um

you immediately like run the other way

you don't even go near them at all like

like if someone's driving past you on

the sidewalk the fact that they could

ram you a ram into you if they did a

ride literally bicycle everywhere i've

bicycled for seven years now i haven't

had a car in that same same amount of

time well they can if you're on a

bicycle a car could easily inflict a lot

of harm on you yeah i know that's why no

that's why i actually i i yell at my uh

uh my local

um

uh

like i'm losing here

uh my local community because they put

little uh dismount zone stickers on the

sidewalks and they said hey if you're on

your bicycle you got a dismount when

you're on the sidewalk and i'm like [ __ ]

no i'm not gonna put mice my ass out

there on the line to get run over by a

[ __ ] car when i have the ability and

option to ride my bike on a sidewalk

like and i think it's insane that they

would rather have me get run over like a

[ __ ] car than me what bump into an

oil what does that have to do with the

point

the point is

i see

violent i see the ability for

high velocity

lead to be

to infiltrate your [ __ ] brain and

your skull and i think if you

play that up at all you're a psychopath

you're definitely a psychopath and a

murderer and you not only deserve prison

but most likely the death penalty just

so you believe that anyone who does open

carry deserves the death penalty

they are closer to deserving the death

penalty than somebody who isn't

and why and that's because they make you

feel threatened

absolutely

okay

i know i've seen i've i haven't shot a

gun because [ __ ] that [ __ ] right like i

don't even want the ability to pull the

trigger and have it blow my [ __ ] hand

off because the chamber is probably uh

[ __ ] up or whatever like i like i know

power right and i know you know power

too and i know that you know that it's

[ __ ] silly it's it's silly it's

twitter [ __ ] to go on the defense for

this guy right it's not about defense or

not defense it's about how you're

supposed to react to it and the way

you're supposed to react this is not to

[ __ ] advocate for him to be [ __ ]

executed

that's the dumbest [ __ ] i've ever heard

will then change my mind bro

change your mind first of all you're not

he's not going to get executed there's

no way you're going to be able to

[ __ ] oh you're right it's illegal

it's they don't have capital punishment

yeah you're not going to like convince

the judge to do that right so

what is the point of advocating for that

why do you need to see that happen

is scare anybody who would politely

you're not going to scare people you're

just going to [ __ ] outrage people

even more you're not going to scare them

you're going to outrage them even more

how many people like why are you guys so

against capital punishment then if the

state keeps killing people but then you

can't say the state can kill people

sometimes you know like the one time

like i'm not saying the state should go

out and [ __ ] start murking people

because they already are without trial

right but i'm saying if it already

exists why can't we when we find one

final like one piece of like one

situation like derek chovin right like

like zimmerman right of killing a

[ __ ] kid like or a kid even going

okay listen listen i i'm not i'm not

against capital punishment

but the only meaning of what you're

basically saying is because it's

basically that since there's so much

injustice going on

we should actually just execute someone

for con and who's acting in self-defense

just to make it even and i think that's

really [ __ ] stupid actually like even

like i think it's stupid to try and be

like oh okay

well if

if a certain group is experiencing a lot

of pain and suffering we should have we

should just extend that to everyone

isn't the goal to

uh stop the injustice and not spread the

injustice

uh well

i think the

entire notion of justice is [ __ ] up

especially in this country then why the

[ __ ] are you advocating for the [ __ ]

debt and why the [ __ ] are you advocating

for the [ __ ] death penalty

because i want to scare

the people

into

not doing what he did right we're not

gonna [ __ ] scare anyone we already

[ __ ] went over this

okay okay so all right fine just even

even though your chat and any any

conservative chat that i even suggest

the death penalty for [ __ ] zimmerman

chauvin uh you know the guy who killed

tamir rice [ __ ] you know any killer

cop right

like or especially written house you're

telling me that reynolds is not a killer

cop here's the difference in all those

cases in those other cases you had uh

cops or so-called community watch

acting uh brazenly and because of racial

prejudices and [ __ ] that executed was

effectively children right

and then in the case of uh

written house you had

it was a case of white on white violence

where

other white left white political agents

who were super outraged and trying to

act on behalf of

a people that they don't belong to

and who didn't ask them to do that went

and violently attacked written house

just because they had a [ __ ] boner to

larp some violence

yeah okay so you're going to tell me

that

i honestly think the entire lesson from

this thing

yeah is we need to really discuss the

[ __ ] boner for violence antifa has

oh yeah that's that's the real problem

it is

i used to be part of left-wing like

groups and [ __ ]

and they do look for excuses to just

throw down they just want any [ __ ]

excuse

you just have an adventure like like

strapping on an ak and going to a

protest right no i mean like going to a

protest and just like throwing bricks at

people or just randomly just doing

[ __ ]

chains and [ __ ] like why do you need to

do that

[ __ ] what are you saying like okay if

you go to any other country and they're

anti-american are they antifa

i no

why not because antifa is a very

specific thing i'm talking about in the

u.s where a bunch of soy males who are

99 gyno their whole [ __ ] life get a

one percent chance

and simulate some masculinity in their

life but they do it in the most soy way

and he's really crazy how would you do

it how'd you do it differently

how should we fix them there's no need

for antifa in this country there's no

fascist in america

we're going to delete antifa from

america

how are you going to delete antifa

americans i'm saying we should just

ignore them

oh okay block them on twitter cool yes

yeah

brain you got there man

yeah

cool

yeah what antiva gone i i don't think

about him that i don't have to worry

about it except when i'm defending kyle

ridden house because they're the ones

who are responsible for the [ __ ]

violence

they're the ones responsible for getting

themselves murdered absolutely they

agree with you

they were attacking him yes they were

they were attacking him

yeah if you like i'm agreeing with you

if you bring your fist to a gunfight

you're probably to die like yeah

yeah okay

great job man you [ __ ] sherlock over

here like

it doesn't matter because he went to a

protest in public with an assault rifle

as a civilian oh my [ __ ] god what

okay what's your point

well

okay well your point is that you're

you're literally attacking antifa for

what written house actually literally

did like you're saying oh they go to

protest just because they're [ __ ]

because they [ __ ] attacked him they

[ __ ] attacked him

oh poor kyle he got attacked he should

blow people's heads off dude they're

brutal those [ __ ] antifa people are

[ __ ] brutal dude they're very vicious

and [ __ ] brutal oh yeah man i've seen

a lot of black eyes from antifa i mean i

literally dude hey hold on dude

literally i literally

i literally went on kiana show three

months ago and i literally had thousands

of people talking about [ __ ] rape

fantasies and like murder fantasies

against me because of that [ __ ] video

how the [ __ ] do you think these people

act in real life when they really are

convinced you're a white supremacist

nazi and anything goes

you know what might stop him right of

the death penalty that might stop him i

know threat of prison is isn't enough

right even though america the people who

need to be stopped are the [ __ ] psych

listen the people who need to be stopped

are the [ __ ] psycho deranged lefties

who have this sadistic anti-human

impulse of wanting to literally destroy

torture and kill

okay

like when you okay so i've heard you say

this a lot and you liken a lot of

american authrite liberals who leftists

which is weird because like what what

are you then

i'm a

okay right so how do we make how do we

get more americans to be international

left well the people that you're going

to draw from in america who are going to

be more like the left in other countries

are gonna be like these militia trump

type of people they're not gonna be

[ __ ]

you know these [ __ ] portland oregon

[ __ ] antifa larpers they're gonna be

rural people

i agree the

american uh hegemony right is

completely [ __ ] like if you want to

get into america you're probably [ __ ]

in the head because you want to be like

americans and what americans are like

are [ __ ] insane

nazis basically we're nationalist

authoritarian [ __ ] who will do anything

like cross state lines with an assault

rifle to shoot people to defend there's

no indication that rittenhouse had any

intention to shoot anyone he was just he

was the 17 year old kid who was larping

that's all he was doing was larva an

assault rifle in public

yeah that's an american thing

yes and american public is

a threat when americans bring assault

rifles in public when americans bring

assault rifles in public they very very

rarely ever expect they're actually

going to use them

okay so when you're saying when you're

lamenting the fact that you got

chat botted by a bunch of [ __ ]

threatening you and dms right and that's

definitely a threat yeah if you saw one

of them

walking

in public with an assault rifle what

would you do

um them specifically yeah

i would probably if they were that

deranged they were probably going to use

it

yeah so what would you do hans

what i would probably run away but what

is [ __ ] the indication what's the

indication you do i just like if if i do

anything here today if i don't change my

sub my line of thinking if you don't

change your line of thinking all i want

to do is tell your 540 people in chat if

you see somebody with a firearm in

public line of sight get the [ __ ] behind

something and get the [ __ ] out of there

as soon as possible because then they

can't shoot you because they won't

notice you and if they do they'll hit

something and the chance of ricochet

well this in context context is very

important very rarely i've never really

heard of open carry people actually

using or discharging

their firearms

but

i don't like people bring firearms to

protests all the time even black

nationalists do it too so i don't i

don't really know like

no i'm all about it man john brown dude

if if i weren't a massive [ __ ] if i had

the balls not chill chill charming

twitch to us

no you i i'm just saying i would like to

liberate

american prison right like i think no no

no shut the [ __ ] up shut up i can't say

that all right i can't well okay well

then

if i wasn't a giant [ __ ]

what i would open carry in public no

[ __ ] that i'm like that's an insane

thing to do that's something insane

people [ __ ] do like in in the fact

that you're like trying to defend the

open carries like i understand like if i

were you i probably would too like if i

was really in the public eye i'd be like

let me let me actually let me actually

be clear about this whether i wanted to

it's not that i want to defend or oppose

open carry it's that i think it's a

cultural thing in america now should it

be changed somehow i don't know i don't

know how it could be changed but it's

not going to be changed when you

individualize it and make it seem like

it's just a matter of like an individual

choosing to do this no there's a context

of a cultural precedent that gives it a

different meaning now how could that

change is it something healthy is it

good i don't exactly know

and it's not really particularly

relevant to me all i'm trying to say is

you can't hold written house accountable

for the precedence of open carry culture

we already have in america

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so you just get to pass

yeah

all right well here's the great thing

about uh this kind of argument that i've

taken a part of for like a decade now is

that don't you worry it's gonna happen

again and we're gonna have the same

discourse very shortly i actually

i think the agents

so here's what you're really missing

here rittenhouse was a 17 year old child

right as a 17 year old

his ability to make choices is severely

incapacitated but the people who

attacked rittenhouse were grown men who

had priors of child abuse and domestic

abuse

and those were grown adult men so i

think antifa needs to take a step back

and ask yourself the question of a

why is it making the adult choice to go

to protest and instigate violence with

people just because they disagree with

them politically and b why are they so

eager to embrace or adopt all of these

like scumbags into their ranks okay so a

13 year old with an assault rifle starts

walking toward you with a deranged look

in his face and you're going to

look if you listen the context yeah the

context is that it's unpredictable but

in the case of that protest it's very

predictable that those people were just

there to open carry and larp is

militiamen

right

yeah

so

basically asking for it right so you

know the people who were victims of

written house right

i i mean i do now yeah one of them was a

pedophile

they raped an 11 year old that's what

you're gonna [ __ ] say and i like okay

fine all antifa are rapist pedophiles

sure

one of the victims of written house was

a pedophile raped an eleven-year-old

child the other one had priors of

domestic abuse right so are we allowed

to say is it twitch to us to say thank

god he's [ __ ] dead probably so don't

say it okay so when when we talk about

this [ __ ] right

you know it's just it's incredible to me

that you're like hey

this dude who assaulted a 17 year old

was a bad dude oh well

could i guess oh hey this guy who's at a

protest ready to [ __ ] [ __ ] up right he's

actually a bad guy whoa no way dude i

couldn't even end up like yeah no [ __ ]

man so why does written house have to be

attacked why does he have to be attacked

people like most people who do this [ __ ]

aren't good people right like i yeah i

just think the left has a violence

problem of just wanting to attack people

and you're using that to defend retina

listen here's the thing is that the

thing is the reason i can critique

leftists is because i haven't

accomplished yet and i'm trying to

reaching out to people like rittenhouse

or rural people and those militia people

where i can have an audience with them

but right now i do have an audience with

leftists and i and that's why i'm so

willing to critique leftists and not so

much the right wingers the right wingers

aren't listening to me right now i do

have the attention of the leftists

though so i want to ask the question is

why are leftists

so why do they get such a big boner at

this idea of committing all this

violence

because that's something i can video

games

no it's because american public [ __ ]

school fetishizes this [ __ ] all right

like we know

we know that when we're in american

public school we're taught the wrong

definition of propaganda we think that

propaganda is when you're you know you

got war posters arguing against the

other side no all propaganda is

advertisement right and nobody's immune

to propaganda and when you go to school

and you put your hand over their heart

you pledge allegiance to the flag and

then you learn all about world war ii

and how thanksgiving is based turkeys

like yeah or like we're we're [ __ ]

we're fed this [ __ ] at a very young age

every single one from leftist to

righteous right in america so when

you're going to say something like we

need to change right i agree we do need

to change this stuff how do we change it

by lending out a hand and saying

how about stop

assuming that like stop engaging in this

adventurous violence where you just feel

like you have an enemy in 50 of the

people and you have to go and attack

them i think

you know i don't understand why leftists

have such a hard time sitting down and

talking to people who disagree with them

politically and ideologically i just

don't get it why is there just this

inability to just they're not leftists

hear other people's perspectives they're

not leftists american leftists don't

exist like i said you're the only

american leftist if i try to name

another one i i i could

owns a three million dollar house now i

can't say it many like i don't i don't

know like

like and and if you do know please tell

me because i will i will follow them

immediately oh jackson hinkle

jack i already followed him so i guess

there's two never mind

all right so we got two american

leftists true leftists

left oh [ __ ] cool all right we got two

out of 300 million we're getting there

buddy yeah which

yeah no i you know i keep getting banned

from all these liberal spaces you know

and they keep saying i'm racist they

keep saying i'm the hell they'll call me

a pedophile too like

[ __ ] anybody man dooby's crew

destiny's crew [ __ ] like it doesn't

matter man like all they care about is

making sure they can secure the bag with

proper adsense and proper subscriptions

and proper

propaganda for themselves right like

that's all twitch cares about that's

what most youtube cares about right holy

like and you're one of the few people

who you know obviously you can say like

you know hey if i give you my money

you're going to use it properly and you

will like and i truly believe that and

people should use their primes right now

because it's free

if you have amazon prime you can

literally subscribe for free right

so

like and you should and you should

donate at infrared.gg and go and donate

because like i said i believe this i

believe in you why were you banned i

appreciate why were you banned from the

discord again uh because i said i had a

lot of sex i set up and they called me a

[ __ ] and i was like hell yeah i'm a [ __ ]

and then they banned me because they

were like that's

that's cool aren't you the guy with like

900 bodies or whatever whoa

no god only a hundred and i did beat you

in that debate and i beat you in this

one too

no you did not beat me in that debate i

remember now

yeah

yeah

no i'm not legit kumso yeah let's just

yeah you're right i'm a kumso you're

goddamn right i'm right you use

protection every single time i used to i

don't anymore what

no

zurich has saved you i just want to

shout out zerka the only reason i'm

doing this is so i can get closer to him

because he's my boy he's the only

leftist in canada okay

and circus saved your ass

how did he save me

because you had a happy halloween buddy

shut the [ __ ] up

we know we all oh shut the [ __ ] up what

are you even you got some treats

no tricks right

yeah circus saved your ass and we all

love them for i really do

bro you [ __ ] out of the stop you're

literally out of bounds right now you're

literally beyond [ __ ]

sanity right now i know look i know i'm

crazy i should name on put my change my

name to crazy hole all right like i i

know this i'm a product of american

engineer like this this is it buddy

so you know

thank you again i appreciate you for

having me on

and uh i appreciate you everything you

do i think you're wrong here

all right we're still not even a step

closer to why you have the views you do

but

no look again what main thing i hope

everybody knows if you see some [ __ ]

with an assault rifle in public line of

sight l-o-s get the [ __ ] out of there

that's one number one number two

one of the largest unions one of the

largest the largest independent union in

the united states is the police union

fraternal order of police okay and the

reason is because the justice system in

america is anything but

what it means is that justice is your

land and your land is everything and if

you own land you effectively own the

police okay this is what i'm trying to

say this is what he was larping as he

was learning as a policeman he was

living as a militia man okay like if you

own land you own the police

and

we're fighting from behind if you even

attempt to be an american leftist we're

fighting from so far behind we're

generations behind right

so all i'm trying to do is to argue past

what the arguments are i'm trying to go

past them so then we can bring the

median or the average political

discourse

more to the left yes i know it's crazy

ultra leftist yes i'm aware right but

that's because i'm uh able to do it i

can get away with it i can say

unequivocally derek chovin cops who kill

if you live by the state if you killed

by this state you die by the state all

right i don't think that you're talking

about legally like you believe they

should have the

tenant penal execution but

listen

uh that listen i don't that's a weird

view i guess like

it's also

you don't have any power so it just

doesn't even make a difference

practically well okay but

when you again when you say making a

difference what i'm trying to say

is

we're

gaylord that's funny

but okay

dude sorry no so what i'm trying to say

is

when

the real difference here is the real

change that's being had okay that's

being made is trying to move the

discourse

further to the left how do we do that

and one of the things i think we can do

is by saying and saying [ __ ] like

cops who kill deserve the death penalty

okay like that i don't agree with that i

don't agree with by by you're gonna

change the overton window by being like

that's like people who said bernie was

the compromise and it was a total

catastrophe and failure success doesn't

come from being

extremely left and outrageous

success comes from having a tempered

relationship with the people

low and steady wins the race i agree we

need to change the direction of entire

generations not just the minds of

[ __ ] on twitter so

what i'm trying to say here

is i know this is the long fight and we

you know it starts with us and it starts

now and i know it's really hard and it's

scary like i i kind of get freaked

myself out too because like i'm pretty

anti-cop it's been pretty it'd be very

easy for a cop to be anti-charm whole

and get away with it you know like

so

you know listen the chat the chat

doesn't hate you but

you just have very extreme takes

yeah absolutely no i know i got banned

off twitter for defending islam dude

so okay tomorrow listen tomorrow at 7 00

pm est we're having the showdown

all right are you coming

yes absolutely

okay i will dm you an invite or dm me on

twitter and i'll dm you an invite to

this one i'm banned on twitter

why are you banned on twitter because i

just told you i literally i was

defending islam richard dawkins was

calling all muslims evil and [ __ ]

and i said okay i'll send stuff okay

i'll send you a friend request now and

just invite you to the [ __ ] all right

thank you very much as i really again i

appreciate you accept the friend request

yes

yes sir

yes sir

wait what should i call it wait my uh

con right are you my con yes did you

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