MY ENEMIES COWER [2021-11-22]

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see it way i am i don't really care about other people's drama all i care about is you know i don't really care about the drama i i don't give but graanting about this i mean that's her right and i mean i'm pretty sure he didn't he do some videos on her too or some streams on her too so you know

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it's so stupid

i'm the most misunderstood you know i go on twitter and every other tweet i see is like the patriotic sousialst and it's like the patriotic sousalst with their hyper masculine ways and it's like were you referring to

you know i always see that on twitter not like random tweets they get like eight hundred likes every day they're just going the biggest problem with the patriotic soulis is that they're chopings and he gets like eight hundred like it's such a straw man what dore you even why is that the thing that define

just now you know i mean it's such a weird strama patriotic souncialist we did i had no idea i was going to be like the thing that that made that creates like a dividing wdge you know i thought maybe it was going to be the i don't know i didn't think that was going to be the thing that starts the shit storm

you know you know what again i' going to tell you guys want on number one issues with life is i'm sick of i'm sick of stupid people coming to epipanies you know i mean my that is like if these people actually understood me where i was coming from it would be like first would be like a trip feed set of epipanies

you mean i i not su the buk up you know first of all you're not very quick you're not you're very slow i don't have patience for i've been there done that i spent years in isolation coming to these apipanies and now i'm here so don't come in a year and be like oh now i understand i don't give a bug

dude you had a chance to understand now i'm not a patient dude you know

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oh that's why has was that yeah you fuck idiot ams and i mean that's how it is jan r i actually feel like banning you you've gifted a lot to this channel but what

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technics yes that's by you what's his name how do you pronounce his name the question of concerning technology in china the author whati his name again yes i'm into that youyh i don't know how to say

his name yuk we yeah i don't want to say y we i want to say yes thk you not i think the patriotism thing is super misunderstood because i don't know what straw man people are i think it's just the ability to people make any straw man like i'm not i was never that really optimistic about

i was't back my will stick was basically that american represents the neholism of modernity china's the negation of the negation america represents the pure negation that's been my view right but i was

the same time i was like yeah we have to be patriots for our country that's the minimum we can seve right but i've actually developed my view a ton since then i'm going to talk to logo about it because

my view is really really changed and evolved now now i see i finally understand what america is and to me america is the last puzzle piece in the story of the long revival of the mongol empire more or less

and you explain that further

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you never explained the mongel thing to begin with

y i'll explain the mongo thing very quickly ready all civilization has been defined by dialectic between nomadicism and sedentary settled civilization right the settled civilization consolidates the nomads the barbarians come and take over by virtue of their ah

they represent material reality settled civilization m represents the harmony between ways of living and ideals and nomads represent exterior exteriority and materiality or whatever right so nomads arenan invigorating force

which set civilization return civilization which original founding tragedies right whatever founding reality so i'm skipping a lot thank you test rock the point is cvilization culminated this dialectic culminated in the form of the mongels the mongols were the last

expression of the nomadic the nomadicism of universal humanity thereby for the first time creating the first universal world historical empires in the history of humanity the mongols created the world as we know it right

the italian renaissance was a kind of response to this world that was created by the mongol conquest and it was given subjective expression for whatever reason in europe so europe was mentally

to rationalize and articulate the creation of this universal world that was created by the mongols and this its reflection is what we call madernity butdernity right so madernity begins with the mongols it's just that we think it begins in europe because it was first reflected upon in europe it was first

given the objective expression in europe so it's like that europe was running away from the mongols the whole time and in the process

it was giving some europe was a cope against the mongols it was a cope european modernity was one big cope against the mongols and the legacy of the mongol conquess after the mongol empire

it's all its successor states were the preeminent world historical empires the gunpowder empires right but then here's where things get complicated and this is why the mongol video is getting delayed is tamer lane and the role of tamer lane is actually tamber lane was the last

ah nomadic

force or presence whatever in the world but tamerlane was a mongol restorationist and that's where things get complicated it's not really about the mongols it's about the timors and tamerlane timer whose grave says when i rise the world will tremble

we are actually followers of taerlan timmer that's where we're coming from we're followers of gain is con through timer through taerlan camerlane was a mongol restoration is just like us we just want to finish what timer started that's what we think communism is

communism is about finishing what timer started because timer here's the thing timor also represented a subjective expression of the legacy of the model conquest do it wasn't just

europe timer represents the laost in lightenment of asia asia did experience a modern enlightenment right corresponding with the timerd conquest and the timerd renaissance but the timberd renaissance was lost and forgotten so to us communism is a return to the timerd renaissance which was a different trajectory

than the european one but here's where america comes in is that europe runs away from the mongols and goes to the new world and here we are the new world's going to come back and return to the bosom of asia you keep going west forever

end up east simple as that change i can change i can change can change

us we are our american patriotism is about returning to asia it's about returning europe to asia that's what it's about europe ran away from asia came to the new world and we're returning us back to asia civilization

so really thank you sho so really in a sense you can say that we are youurasationists actually we are youurasationist on the american continent we are american eurasanist

africa fits in through ethiopia ethiopia is the bridge between africa it and asia and africa will be the future

we don't know anything about africa right now but it will be the future africa is the future hundred percent ok i'm going to bring on logo now and i'm going to blow my nose one

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i brought something for you just off of what you were saying right

this is one of my favorite things it's a it's a little very underrated bit of american literature right but

the first thing edgar allen poe ever published

was a series of sonnets it's like a goinh yeah i know i know that one tmer lane yeah yeah i know have you read the original though

because he put he published the original version only in fifty copies

well i tried to descroye i im the other version

but i haven't i haven't fully read

i just want i want to read this one for you it's the fifteenth on it in the original version so it's pretty it's pretty good pretty relevant but

look round thee now on samar khand is she not queen of earth her pride above all cities

in her hand their destinies with all beside

of glory which the world hath known

stand she not proudly and alone

and who her sovereign timorer he

whom the astonished earth have seen with victory on victory redoubling age and more i ween the yet recking fame

and now yet now what was he

what

a name

the sound of revelry by night comes o'er me with the mingled voice of many with a breast as light

as if t were not the dying hour

of one in whom they did rejoice as in a leader haply

power

its venom secretly imparts

nothing have i with human heart

because tamer lane right he sort of comes to represent

in the romantics this sort of like he kind of is equated with napoleon

and want yes

yeah

n napoleon is um

you know you know who is that

who's that um

who is that aristocratic woman i think she's from the house of orleans who hated napoleon

and

what was her name

is are you thinking of bathtery i don't know there's a lot of i'm not super on deep ono friend ms one one of as recalls or the karen of france

the french cair

she was very aangl pilic she loved britain she was very anglo fillic

that's pretty that's pretty standard that's something um like

it's man dude that i don't know where to start there's so much stuff i've fucking uncovered since last time i talked to you i've like put together

so many puzzle pieces you were saying that like your patriotic socialism arc

has been kind of instructive

but uh i think that's always true whenever you get mass scapegoated that's when you're learning something like you're like really on something

and you're going to like learn something from it is what i've discovered right

yeah i feel like we've both

gone through that quite a bit it's just the you always learn something

it's just a little bit awkward because it's like

is this isn't

like i never thought it was that big of a deal you know but

that

here we are i guess

oh no it's a big deal no it wasn't a big deal then it would't need to be sad and saying it when

be such a you know when

garner this sort of response it actually is a huge deal

you know it's actually a huge deal

that this is like become a massive a

curfawful over being like like

well it's so absurd but like they interpret like what you're saying is basically a kind of like uh they can't really

to distinguish between the institution and like the things that are being represented or ostensibly represented

in that institution

like

it's weird because they wouldn't say this

even

if you're like let's say you were like a black military vet and you're like yeah i'm like a patriot and i'm also a socialist like i'm a veteran or whatever like yeah cool based whatever

like do you think they'd really be a

as

that's critical in a weird sense no no they wouldn't but it

i don't know it's like it want to say you had this so the only reason someone ever is going to come and identify with marxism leninism right now in the u

is that they just hate

there's the

you know they just hate the world they live in and

they just think it's a way out you know they're like oh i hate ever i hate america so much and i hate everything it stands for let me just be the opposite of what i think its

it's the actually the same exact reason why and it's like the same like thought processes that happened

why all these likeh like post austrian libertarians becoming neo nazis or whatever

it's literally the same thing it's just being like what do you think is going to offend this people the most and then

it's like it's very much larpi it always has been larpi

um for like the last fifty years uh at least of uh when it comes to like connections to um

be like the vanguard of like the proletariat or whatever considering the

yeah you can really be that and be the main

construction like the emerging out of the very people who like created the conditions for world war one and world war two in the first place

well it doesn't really make sense

the thing that really is

bother you know the way where i've been at and i don't i don't expect to ever make this like

these dumb asses on twitter will never understand this so there's no point in trying to

explain it to them but you and many others get this is that

communism

in the twentieth century was america

that wasn't that was

fundamentally america right i mean like

ah you had these traditional societies the soviet union chin i sorry russian empire china

and communism was like

the

external

manifestation of what america was

and that's not necessarily a good thing either because

be communism represented the apocalypse of modernity right

these societies we're facing just like this complete leveling and you know this complete kind of castration in the psychoanalytics sense or whatever

just this complete

kind of alienation in a sense right between people and their traditional

way of life this was the initial stage of communism i would say like for example during the

the war communism of the civil war and then the very early stages of the collectivization right not them talking about the long term consequences but just the beginning and then in china the great leap forward these were all kind of

just apocalyptic

phenomena that they survived and endured through

right

the unfolding of america is itself this revelation this sort of apocalypse this is like how william blake sees it as like the american revolution is happening

that sort of fire is what spreads like

the american revolution

um like the the ability for like people to come out in this exact sort of way

was extremely radical and it's something that's like

gat played

by pedagoge like pedagogy in america now you basically get this idea where they first presented as being like

oh it's like super radical like when you're a kid or something and you get like a comic book version of it and in some ways the comic book version is

closer to reality than the more quote unquote nuanced interpretations you got later

where it's like

well actually like you know the british empire had gotten rid of slavery and they were more progressive so

this was just represent like what i is wy landlord what i mean by like apocalypse th is this is like so with modernity right specifically the english with the original

modernity basically was this breakdown of meaning in the world right it was basically this like

um

look this for example modern science right oh this is you invested so much meaning in the idea of

genesis and craton well hey fuck you it turns out we came from monkeys sir

we revolve around the sun we're not the center of the universe like

it's a form of this kind of humiliating

just

disclosure of some kind of meaninglessness right

and where the kind of satanism modernity as i put it in parent quotation marks comes in is basically where it says

this meaningless humiliation of man's

senses and

sense of meaning in the world

is itself the metaphysical absolute that exists for its own sake something is only as true

it's nick lands going on the g n n n whatever

you know the nature the god of nature yeah i g just this like

fundamental alienation basically right

yeah yeah but so to me

the the way i've come to see it is that

the

the british empire the sovereignty the sovereign

rule of the british empire after the glorious revolution

what's the rule of this kind of

neo right it's a sovereign neal sovereign nothingness

and to me

the american revolution was a way of the

decapitating this sovereignty this crown and finally opening up

making the opening up mankind again to the kind of ambiguity metaphysical ambiguity instead of saying

the humiliation and radical alienation of modernity is

itself existing for its own sake

there it's an ambiguity instead we don't know what it means just this fundamental ambiguity this is how i understand pragmatism right with pragmatism

it's not they were like firt like begin with like

some loaded sense of meaning and then you impose that on reality

you begin with

an ambiguity well if it works it works and what the implications that has for meaning is open right

but the issue the reason america is such an evil country

so to speak

's because

even

the pragmat

this pragmatism itself

corresponding to each ruling class that has consolidated the history of the us

it's turned into a sovereign

object

right it's like

it's not only that if it works

then it's fine it's that

the only reality is what works there is no mmentality

exactly

i was just reading this is like a big gap between if you read walter lipman and john dewey like their books that were kind of pomical against each other

uh because john dewey has this very john dewey's like a galleon nouw like he's like very uh erudite and uh he's part of that sort of um

like transcendentalist like post transcendentalist kind of look at the world

in america

he comes from that school so you know he like reads german idealism he's like that whereas like lipman is

very much in the like british utilitarian tradition more so

so uh when he's like you know interpreting these things in like a pragmatic sense or like saying things

that like you know everything in the world is like a tool and like all of man's creations are like tools like we were creating these things you know what i mean

like that type of pragmatism

that has like a very uh that's well that has a very that's like that's like a maoist kind of conception also though right where its like

where where that your proof the proof of things is in their

continued social utility

like if something continues a practice that continues to exist

has some sort of truth to it

because it is maintains like stability over time

well the problem is like with with people like lipman they go

yeah but these things cannot emerge from the people

because the people the masses

they the things that emerge from their minds like the systems that they create are anarchy

whereas the elites

we're the ones who can create systems of order so what our job is to do is to program these games effectively or like

tools like social conditions

social programs population control in general

and uh that's our job that's our burden as like the elite we have to create and like maintain order whereas what do we

was more interested in

was saying that you we need to create a system that is like kind of

why

order

on a fractalized level so that like the citizens themselves on an individual level

are creating like participating in the construction of order

and the construction of intelligence like actionable

intelligence in a republican

you know setting like you know that type of

the social organization

yet

you know the thing with those that the

the a really crucial difference though between pragmatism and utilitarianism is that

utilitarianism sees the ends as maybe i would say the satisfaction of some kind of goal or this

more i would say

satisfaction of some kind of senses right this is how i used

like to look at it like

the ultimate utilitarian example is the british you know the

i know flight

capitalist who's

use hes using everything as a tool just to

satisfy some kind of like base pleasure or some kind of something right

but

with

with pragmatism this is how i put it in my substack that i didn't finish yet but

the basic idea is that

a for the englishman the machine is a tool to realize some ens right but for the american the machine is the ens

the machine is itself the ultimate ense

so with pragmatism i

work that

things being able to work is the privilege

um

is the privileged kind of

once

how should i say expression of the platonic good the good is

what works right

so

what that basically means is that

when it comes to the evil of america the evil things we associate with

united states in america or

the unhappy consciousness of america so to speak

is this kind of attempt

to

arrive at a form of sovereign objectivity

would instead of the empiricism of the british sys occulted sovereign

object of the sens is that is this metaphysical absolute

this sovereign objectivity is instead

some kind of thing that works completely indifferent

completely

completely alien to humanity and completely

existing on its own terms right so there's never we're never arrive at this reconciliation this harm and you could say with pragmatism pragmatism results in well i guess i don't really know on this level what the way the way i think the way i've conceived it is it's bas you just think a it like this we got rid of the british crown

and then

we've been trying to replace and fill a vacuum

and also this is involving the british elites as well directly but

every everybod sday that every chapter of the last struggle in america's history is this attempt by a ruling class

to replace the british crown so to speak

and institute

make

our pragmatic ambiguity into an

sovereign objectivity that exists for itself

man is that that was what in new england anyway the

the purity is there they had already replaced the crown

like these are the people who had executed the king

in the english civil war you know this's like they they had already

taken this like there was there's like an american revolution before the american revolution

you know in a in a that time where you're talking about the glorious revolution

what that really did was set the stage for the american revolution because when they reorganized

the colonies afterwards which had been effectively abandoned in the period of the civil war

ah the and like self governing

they reorganized things and they wanted to impose leadership and direction

from london over these like previously autonomous colonies

am who are even printing their own currency

and things like that

so i was taken away and they were subject again to the crown

they weren't subject to the crown for decades

yeah but you're aware of the thesis it forward in the book that the lawyer uh the loyalists

what is it the loyalist revolution something like that

where

the the revolutionaries of the american

war of independence

actually began as loyalists and they actually

came to realize that this was my takeaway that

the current british crown were usurpers they're not real

that they're pretenders to the throne they don't represent the real authentic monarchy so

the whole

founding of

the u s republic was basically like

not to safeguard against the excesses of tyranny so to speak

that just was from feudalism or from the traditional society

but was a reaction to the horrifying revelation of the fact that

how is there a pretender who's sitting on the throne this is the only way we can safeguard ourselves

from

p sentors form ever sitting on the throne again like and by pretenders

i basically am meaning a

like

like from the poems of the english romantics like what's this poem uh the um

the masq of anarchy

who is this youor awere of this ponm

the mask of anarchy whos this by again with the mask of anarchy was basically like

how it

that the crown represented the like

exactly its opposite the anarchy of modernity in the complete

usurping of all tradition and rites and customs and history or whatever

like

the persons it's almost like the pope right the pope is the highest representative of christianity but then

with protestantism you have the horrifying revelation that

holy folk the anti christ thats the antil christ right

so the first time they realize that though man that's first time

it's the same as from my perspective it's the same

as how they view the

why the us republic was founded not as a monarchy was because

how could it be possible that a usurper a false pretender

uh can be a king

right i

it's not that they rejected

the history of monarchy and all kings in history is illegitimate and false it's just that

here we have

and anarchist this king

so to speak

we have the mask of anarches

so that's really

that's really what it is and like that's like

oh

that the divine right in a way kind of leads directly to global imperial anarchism or whatever like

like who gets this divine right it then goes down to you

whoever effectively can wield it i e like make their

uh make like control nature right this is uh

this is where gain your divine right is your ability to exert power your will onto the world

that's like what anguishes like divine right from

an elective monarchy

right

is a

is anve monarchyre you don't wield these powers like individually you've been vested with the

by the people but in a divine right monarchy

the people are irrelevant to you like the people are

in arb

good they're on a list like they don't

they don't invent you with anything you are over them like you're a godman

this is like the ubermen riight is to be the divine right monarch

yt the're strange

the thing that i always like to emphasize though is that

we typically view

the majornity so to speak i know this is a loaded term and it's not

you know it's it's

a lot of sudes like to use this word all modernity but

just it simplifies things right we like to think of this idea is like first you have

the old traditional society and then you have the progroup the modernistic progressive forces

who have no regard for tradition and no regard for

a

history and they just

decide to from scratch

create a new society based on this kind of rationalistic needalsm whatever

but

we've went my study of european history has led me to a very very different conclusion which is that

this

a rationalistic needlesm whatever you want to call it satanism whatever of modernity that turns the world upside down

this actually happened before the revolutions first

there was some fundamental corruption

of the institution of monarchy

and of religion as well where you had

basically satanist become the pope

and you had

complete way back buddy yeah f we want to go right now

complete atheistic niolis become

sitting on the throne

they become the king right

and revolutionaries

beca come to embody the true the

return to tradition so to speak like robespiare with his

a republican virtue was an attempt to return to some kind of authentic tradition

and it was actually the king king louis sixteenth

who was the revolutionary in quotations right so you have this very very fundamental

it's a very like confusing dialectic but it really does make it's a very beautiful irony when you

come to realize once once you have once you can see it like in history like and

it just reverberates like everywhere in and it also like helps guide like your ability to research better i think

what you're like aware of these sorts of tensions

kind of replicating themselves throughout time

then you know what what to look for and where to find it like a in any given like situation

so you find some you uncover some pretty interesting stuff this way

like if you're looking at um like the uh peasant revolts or like the sort of uh

the quote unquote like her heretical like uprisings of pet peasants in like the dark ages and things like this

this h

this sort of like under this like

submerged history

has this complete continuity to the present

in a way that is actually easier to connect

philosophically then i think like the quote unquote like ruling idiologies development in time

like the ruling idiology is always kind of

nonsensical it's like uh it's like uh

a cabinet of delusions that have been gone through that's sort of like what the nightmare of history is

but the truth

amongst the people is always bad sort of

yeah that's the most lindy thing in the world is uh is the people

yeah um

ya i mean uh

to me the very

very ability to

have a notion of the people

that's divorced

from

the institution that's meant to instantiate them

for me that begins with e

american revolution right

it's

just some kind of we the people and there's a fundamental ambiguity so many many people ask and they think they're smart

right so who's her name luna oid you know why

beauty

these people on twitter i beef with

she said ss like oh you say the people but which people do you mean the trans people or

the marginalized or the disabled

but they missed the point that the people in united states people exist the ambiguity is imminent conrad it's meant to be ambiguous it's meant not to be loaded with any specific determinant

form because the minute you give a determinate form

you are interpretting a subject

through some kind of institution

how's this

this is like all the theology to me though like this goes back like what compt and i have been obsessed with which is the problem of universals

in hermanutics

because it comes down to like what the definition of the church was right because you could say the same thing where it's like

we're doing this for like christians and for the church right and that's a huge amount of things right if you're talking about like christians

or

church

what is that is the church the exact same church that like the roman church the institutions

the ones that are subject to this that agree to x y z

specific charter the ones that say this creed the ones that say this

like what are the what like how does that develop like the church

on the universal church like basically there was this conception

amongst the radical reformationists that there's

always a universal church

which is not known to people

in time like we do not know who's a member of the universal church

but that this is a this is what the church actually means is the universal churchhood

of believers in eternity

not the any individual instantiation

of like an institution around us

but a much larger like vager like metaphysical concept like this for the same it's that works the exact same way with the people

because if you say for the people you don't even mean for just the american people right because if you're like an actual populice

than doing things for your own people and like to like say like eliminating like the american empire that you're also be in the doing this in the best interests of like those people

actually there's no conflict

between self development

and like

uh mutual development like it's not a winner take all game it's not one

take like to win someone else must lose in this sort of thing

but in a in a proper like educational environment in this sense like in it in the way do we meant an education

a everyone trying to manifest

they're themselves like the best versions of themselves

they're tempering each other also and like dra that sort of um

that competition this is like where the positive sense of like the competitiveness in america comes from

is this sense of a

this is actually this actually makes everyone better

is that the

it's not a it's not a zero sum game

and you don't have to

like divide everything where it's like uh you know you're playing a game

and you see that's people with x y zs traits seem to excel at a certain game and you go like oh this game isn't fair

to people with

who don't have x y z traits or whatever

that's like

what they're doing when they're dissolving the notion of the people

like they're eliminating

the possibility of having

the pretense of like a universality that may not prove itself

to be like universal and outputs

but is universal in inputs

yet to me

we just i always like to return to what i consider marxi's monotheistic humanism

and the reason i think i say it's monotheistic

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and the way you have to understand that is that for marx what does marx mean by man what does he mean by humanity

does he mean a humanity

ah loaded with certain predefined characteristics and positive quality what does he actually mean when he talks about humanity and man right

well marx actually isn't preferring

for marks he says if you want to know what humanity is work right

work for humanity and

work to discover anyby but enan productve productivity

is is man like you could say like this is what it means to say man is the image of god i e

those working in like productive like in the reproduction of the world like

like

using language and

you know arts and

and itll bes even if that's what man is we it's even deeper than that because for marx there is no there's not even any there's no premise of man whatsoever marx

the word man just refers to

a

this monotheistic view that there is one

absolute there is one

kind of

point in point of the metaphysical absolute in which

all of this developments of our thinking specifically in the thinking of philosophy

all of this shares the same essence and is one and the same

with

with ourselves in our in with how should i say

with

with

our basis at its lowest base like for example

the most base and menial work of a toiler that this is part of one single object all marx is basically saying

in terms of his humanism

' is that i don't know what humanity means or what it is

but it does mean something and it is actually something right

so man just refers to this fact man just

means to return the head

to its material base now what is that material base what is the consequence that what does that look like

mark doesn't say this because that comes after first you have to accept

that there is this reconciliation there is one universal humanity

now again what this humanity looks like and whatever is

besides the point it's a fundamental commitment to the fact that even if you don't know

even if you don't know it

um

the contradiction between heaven and earth between head and body for example is reconciled

as a material object

see she's

and it's like i read marx i think angles is better with this honestly i'm like an angles head right now like i feel like marx gets too much play i feel like angles was actually the major partner in the relationship these days

but uh sometimes i'm reading marks and i'm just like

it's like

it's stone that the builder rejected here

and it's like everything he sanying is just like uh yeah like that's why jesus christ existed you know

where it's like where it's like oh yeah there is this like imminent absolute

which is like best represented

by the sort of a person who like works

right and uh and in working like discovers this truth

and in discovery this truth

is crucified by the capitalists of the world essentially yes

like it's literally like

that's that's sort of that's sort of what angles is getting to at the end

uh with his like history early christianity and like there are constant comparisons between them

i think really that so much so much of the botched nature of like western like western marxist and left thewads

is from this ah

their failure to like fully reconcile like

um to uh like a kind of like radical christianity

because i

it completely

effct like it completes their their vision and it's already like

implicit in and what that ends up hap what ends up happening like the reason why they didn't

because christianity was actually had demnic like

this sort of bourgeois christianity of like a

metaphors of like debt

right this metaphor this this sort of calvinistic

a sense where jesus

gives you lower interest rates on your loan to the fucking devil mike

that's and then when you pay off your debt you're in the elect that's basically like the metaphor of calvinism

m

but

that is a that's like as opposed to like the great jubilee

right of of communism of cornucopian communism

yeah you know the issue really stems from the fact that

people don't to first all people don't really appreciate that

marks and engeles as they say shared one mind so if angeles was saying something that seemed like it contradicts marks or is different from marks

it's usually because the

interpretation of marks is not complete

right

but

when i really i just mean like

that i was around longer like you yeah yeah i think i think the issue is that

many people i think the more general issue is philistinism and by philistinism i mean

it's this kind of relativization of marxism to just you know just some kind of like

some part of a bigger division of labor when marxalism is supposed to be like this privileged fundamentally like renaissance man

type of

the way of

completely connecting the whole division of labor into one

form of practice and one method and one kind of relation to universal humanity

so the issue really is that

there's a lack of understanding of what religion even is in the first place right there is obviously the institution of religion that existed at the time

but the more fundamental religious

extra foundation of religion

with something at marx and engles even engles himself despite his

he was turning from this in his later years

they took it for granted right they were never confronted with any kind of um challenge to this but

yes christianity

is not reducible to

philosopher

so to speak it's not confronted

they were confronted with sort of a radical atheist like skeptics of the time and who they were were like the bourgeois socialists and the utopian socialists

who who go on to the anarchists

who go on to use the system we have now

so the curse the curse is that though that even atheists are

in a sense christian in the west right

it's this more fundamental spiritual text so what i would say is that there's

like

so it depends on what you mean by that because i would say that the standard atheist cosmology is actually just days

like a

is it fun like there is like if you watch like neil de grass nel the grass tyson cosmos or whatever

they'll even be like you know what we're actually not even atheist because we're like agnostics that we do believe that there's the possibility of deistic god

which is identic nature and you have to you have to look at it from the perspective of the division of labor

they are

they a'll say these things right but they're taking for granted this more fundamental substantive texture of the christian religion

right as the real foundation

so by rejecting christianity all they're doing is estranging themselves from having any kind of active

or

non alienated relationship to their own kind of

i guess i would call it a religious substance so to speak like

i do agree with marx with the sense that religion

is in a sense the world our world is itself religious right

our world is it our civilization is itself in a way christian

the question is whether one is if one is a philistine then one is going to occupy one narrow one sided part of the division of labor

and be blinded from the whole whereas if one is a well rounded kind of renaissance man or whatever

you're going to you're going to really be able to

embrace this fact

and could be able to confront it and

be reconciled with

it's

it's like a really unique thing that biblical literacy is like almost nonexist it's like gone

which is really

kind of strange

for america it's an extremely strange thing to happen to america for that sort of literacy to

to decline

because it's really founded

our obsession with iliteracy was founded on biblical literacy

being something that was like kind of necessary even to

having like

control over yourself in a way like the like this was like a means

by which to manifest yourself

so to yourself like ethically like the experience of reading this text is it's it's educated it creates

a type of relation

to the world

which is more conducive to republican governance like in the sense of participatory actual

like common weealth

you know like the an unalenated like relation to the productive

the force of the world

two

that's what the goal for these early settlements was like they were communists like in their time they they had their own problems but like even in like the the

the massachusetts bay colony the original charter they do like a full a

they go full communism there is no private property and eventually they start to legislate away from that

but that is a

this this notion is a you know it's biblical this notion of communism

that's where it comes from it comes from

people reading the

in interpreting

the laws around property and inheritance

and usury and you know these sorts of things

from the old testament

like levitican

and stuff like that like

this was a

this is where these ideas come from

so what i want to bring up

is speaking of this is that

i

struggle with america still i haven't completely completed the puzzle

i think i'm close but

it's a big problem for me and when i say it's a big problem i mean it like this

so in china you have the communist party of china

and what that basically means is that

the communist party is in power

but there is still this

historically partial kind of object

china which is not reducable the communist party may be in power someone else may be in power

but china remains there is this reality of china this common point of

objectill unity of the whole chinese people it's a

and the coherent point that's the

wilting point of an entire civilization same is true for russia same is true for

other countries

the issue with united states of course is that

we don't have that right so

the communist party of the united states

it is a kind of very strange alchemical mixture

it's almost like you're saying

the communist party

of the communist state

it's like

the issue is that

communism here let's just simplify means this kind of a

negation of corresponding to the journey so the communist china basically means

china experiences this fundamental

alienation abstract negation of modernity

and then it has the negation of the negation where it is returned to the original

objects china china remains and survives this this is the dialectic

al chemical whatever formula

but the weird thing going on with the united states that i struggle with is that

this is why i

i introduced the idea of reviving the c p sa in the first place it really comes from exactly it this is the secret

of the whole thing

to me

i found it's very poetic

and staff found something even if i don't fully understand it very

ah prophetic even this idea of

the chickens coming home to roost and the very source of

communism and you know what i mean by communism right is abstract

leveling process of modernity

communism returns to its home

and the full consequences of what this

abstract negation quote unquote of modernity what even is that

a

it all of that

becomes revealed here and we have this

fundamental internal confrontation where

america confronts america

but you it's like two negations what do you get out of two negations what do you get out of the communist

party of the

the communist state we don't have the communist party of china or of russia

nothing else is

just the united states the united states already communist in a way from the very beginning right so

what

effectively effectively like doing the whole like a

i don't like

there has to be the creation of like some sort of a party

to destroy all parties in a way

because uh what i think if you're saying like things have to return et cetera

u the real return will be getting americans to be actually more like

fucking americans

uh americans now like even patriotic americans they're like patriots but they're like and i love winston churchill and margaret thatcher

and so it's like are you really patriots i

this

the americans are not actually being american enough

they don't know or care enough about our own traditions

and that return will be the real return because the goal of

the american republic

was to not have parties at all

well lile point

was that the

congress and the house of representatives and these sorts of bodies

this was the party

like the could the government was

identical to the party like there is one and it's one party and it's all the people in the states

what my my worry though is that

is a miracle

only defined by this kind of a

negation of

in a way civiliz like

isn't a miracle only defined by this constant negation of all stable traditions one like

what is our sovereign

point of objectivity

for our confry like what is really in the rind by that negation

i don't think like in that sense i really don't because america even in the in

like if you're looking for a country that's like a pure like or as close as possible to that pure negation

you'll find it in like

sweden and like

and london

you know

this is a this is the real place where there' is just what is the swedish tradition

do you think like do you think do you not feel that like

the swedes in a way are more abstract in this sense like the land of ikea

like are they not

actually further this than we are

well in you know in a sense you can say they are they're a hyper reflexive society but still they have an object of sweden sweden and its history and sweden's

civilization and

there's something there it's just has to do with their peculiar

oversinal file

in my view

protestant christianity in sweden

that leads them to the ikea

the ikea swedes that

aver over the world in this you know they're kind of like space aliens right

but

the issue with project yeah the issue to me is like

we here's here's how it put it is that

we don't have a common

we don't have a sovereign we don't have a sovereign that

historically united

american civilization into one people

we are not yet one people here

states

that makes sense right

bike

china for example that

had its various dynasties russia had its czars europe had its kings

middle eastern whatever they have their sultans or their emmers or whatever we

we are

w we

like

uh how should i put it

mm

was i going to say what

mean because it's like who's lincoln

like that's what yea abraham lincoln has

like that's what

to like a titanic figure and like why the assassination of lincoln

is like

like spells

rest of like the tragedy of american history unfolding after that and kind of the death of the second republic

that link it

trying

heroald

i guess i guess what i would try to say is this is i read this in a chat this is exactly what i mean

we don't have really a civilization here by civilization here's what i mean

civilization as i would define it is when you have both the states

you have some kind of harmony between a state

and the material base outside the state in the form of the people the people

in their telllyric

in all earthly existence

come to an understanding with the state and this mediation produces a civil society right

but united states to me is it's pretty much the like

it's the caricature of the anti communists that they make of like

communist countries it's like

one universal state

that has no regard

was the earthly reality of its people and

you know if you come into the

there's no like civil society here it's just

here's the state

and then chaos you know what i mean

so

there's actually a mediating figure in american literature there

the native americans

not interesting elaborate

if americans are not the like

uh this idea that like there was like antinative american racism or something like that this base this like a purely uh

like uh eugenics like uh ethnoanthropological like you know re rational uh disdain or whatever

is uh is not the case at all because uh

the native americans were always repre like they had to they've had a huge influence on the way we organized our society here

and they were always that that that mediing mediating figure because

they were in the anarchy of nature

and the ambiguity was like what is their form of order and if you're saying like you were talking about the mongols earlier right

well that's closer to like that what the native american societies were like

and i

that was always that's always like

like from the beginning it was like how do we merge

with the native americans like how do we become

a one

thing like as americans that was that's like the question that's like why w

you have like hiawath

hiawatha like longfellow longfellow like these things they're like they're like american republican things and

you know we have this sort of a

civic mythology in which the native american

to plays an extremely important role in legitimizing things

as being from like authentically from the land in the people which is why like landback et cetera

has been so necessary by the n g o plex to you know

for them to monopolize that brand space

because like everyone kind of authentically recognizes that the native americans have like the most authentic relation

to this to this land

but in a sense like the american communism would be to like we all become native americans

mm

that's actually very interesting

h

like we are all the people like this idea like we are i'm a native american like my family's been here for god knows how long like am i native america this is what the nativists were saying right

a like the n not things and things like that they would actually describe themselves as native american

yeah and this is like a sort of this is like a patriotic thing even like a jingoistic chauvinistic thing

in some sense

to claim yourself to be a native american i mean you cand see it fuckingcahontas does it elizabeth warren

but um i i mean it and i'm not like in that sort of like cringe like using it for like i was so oppressed at status thing

but more it's like an aspirational thing like people that's like also i think

what it's sort of wrong

you know the redskins or whatever as the football team is

being considered as like a derogatory or something no is like s is like an aspiring thing is like these were people that

that like america

wanted to replicate in a way like they appre they

they uh it wasn't this uh

this like

and i don't know some aspects of like a patriarchal or condescending attitude towards the native americans but

i don't know there i think

much deeper like the american mythology

the native americans are like

they're not always rep they're not represented as like usually as like reprehensible

and like below uh civilization but as like you know uh

a an admirable enemy you know like as like a worthy foe

yeah i mean

one of the other things i was thinking about too was that

this is really the big

issue is that

if

the whole the united states is a project

as the

moments

oh

for

patriotism whatever

alls

was one big

frankenstein monster is just one big mistake one big catastrophe

there's no substance to america there's no

object of america it's one continuous artificial creation

that will never have a civilization and will never have any roots in the land it's one completely

failed

meaningless catastrophe

for me the question then is

is this not a fundamentally nihlistic insight

isn't that mean what is that all it ares humanity as a whole

that's actually what really

it kind of pushed me away from

my more anti american stance i had like a year ago which was not anti american in the wolk sense but i was more i was very skeptical of the idea of american

state

i was just didn't know right i was like how could this be possible

what pushed me away from it was that different

when i when i

when i started to like see

what these people were filling the vacuum with

and it was just this rancid utter needlism

i realize like hold on ok

you you aren't at peace with america yet do you still have to work america has more up its sleeves because

you know you're beautiful america's great like i love what i mean by that is a like you know youh n know i understand it's like what i mean b that is like

they were they're engaging in a kind of foreclosure they're foreclosing the very source

of the ground of their own subjectivity and then just declaring that they one

like oh yeah we defeated america no you haven't defeated america you're still

you're still fundamentally relying on a very narrow

part of america

and

that's really our ruling class you're taking that and their relationship to the people

as the foundation

and you're running away from the material basis of what america is and you want to just

you want to seal the deal and be done with it and close that off forever

and my perspective is no america has more up its sleeve there's more

to this country

there's more to the people of this country than the institutions that claim to represent them

iight

so that has been my point but

the reason i don't like being backed the reason i'm having such trouble being backed into this corner by twitter

twitter lefties

is that

i still have a lot of doubt i still have a lot of ambiguity where it's like i i do always think like um

what really is the future then what does this mean what

like what is america i still don't even really know right all i know is that they're wrong that's all i know is that these people are evil and wrong

but i would say this is what america is is america is a

like

it's they're not in charge of what america is they are alienated from it they're the furthest people from it they're the most alienated from it they couldn't see it if you gave it to him

if you showed it to him they wouldn't tell you that's what it is

they have no appreciate like they have no like they're not attached to this if anything

their uh their sense of self is like mediated through the internet and it's mostly mediated through um

like relation to europe right and specifically to northern europe and specifically even more so

they measure everything compared essentially to sweden right

sweden do you know do you know this when you look at like those things where it's like human rights watch like liberty meter etca and they

they do these metrics

most of the time they're just they're just

are the're just

to measuring how close you you are to sweden

sweden will have the top marks

yeah

i know sweden is a big

it's a hell it's hell

right ins the eye in the triangle man you don't understand like it' swedent sweden is low key

loki

has is man i don't know where to start because sweden sweden has this like incredible

occulted history

of like hyperborean intrigue being like the mediating figure between the british empire and the russian empire

in like the baltic

and oh my god dude

like

it's fucking i don't know where to start with this stuff

but i don't know it no one cares about swedish history it's like once you see it and you're like wait a minute

the swedes like the what is what is going on there like what it what have they been doing this whole time like

why do they give out the nobel prize like wait they weren't involved in world war one or world war two

like what what were they doing like the whole time they made money on both of those

they built all that've never actually th ever had a war

they've never been invaded nothing's ever happened to them they've they've just only grown and like they're invested in like everything

they tried to do colonialization but they couldn't quite do it so all they did was invest in every other colonial enterprises like

corporation so they made body on everyone's imperialism the whole time like it's incredible

yeah i i never thought about that actually

they were they're like the key masonic lodges to it's fuck

that'ss man gret athunberg

now think about greta thunberg like why is she around she's fucking royalty

really

her fam

oh man

pases

a e deocracy intrigue the a c n regime is not gone like

like it's not it's up in the this is like what the

but i've been realizing more and more this is like the horror of a you should watch this show

aries are a r e s

it's a dutch show

about this sort of thing

but it's like

this a thing to like a cathulian horror that i experienced

is a

looking into like things like

like the swedes

because

there they have never had a revolution

there's never been a revolution in sweden

that's true actually that's actually true

continuity it's the rc regie

population

they're ten million they're not that big though

es date

what they it's a eugenic society right like basically this is like where this whole notion right of like this sort of hyperborean theosophical world view where like the higher races are the ones closer to the north pole gee i wonder who came up with that

on

it's

that's where it all comes from man

and if you look at a

if you look at

youop

can you imagine a sort of like

pyramid with the baltic

like berating you know like the the the a of providence sort of thing

sweden fits that sort of figure it's like right there and their goal basically

was for sweden

to be like the the select like the cream of the crop of the hereditary aristocracies

that would then rule over the lower races of like the germans you know

they weren't they're like no they're like well the germans they're they're not

they're not swedt

a they're they're a little swarthy too

but you know that's a

that's

that's how works because it's all this relation to like the vikings the vikings are another key i think the key figure

for a western history especially in the northwest like anglophone history

which we uh we don't appreciate is a

how you're talking about the mongols being like that sort of world historical

to shift to modernity i was going to say the vikings are

because

the vikings

were just a pure like they they they were the first they were like the all of they were like a financial oligarchy they were like a lump and proletariat empire

yeah that's only they did play the role of nomads in europe

seems like

rated they just rated things and they they were the ones to really come up with the divine right of kings right you know the right like this conquest right in like the dane law on this sort of shit

mm

yeah i mean um

yeah i i don't know i'd never really thought about um

sweden or anything like that but i'll keep that in mind that's really interesting

but no but it's a big deal because they they create the dialectics that lead to like our current like the like this is a this is a you ever hear of like michael heisman mitchell heisman the guy he wrote suicide note

know himself like

think

guy

he lived in cambridge he was like a grad student

looks really smart guy wrote this like thousand page book about the history of the world

and then killed himself with like a copy of it in harvard like on the square

a i've read a most of it

buth he goes really deep into this but

the dialectics that existed in like

the early british isles right

you first like the anglo saxons invade like these gaelic tribes

and then you have the the normans invade

and then at that point like

so you have these gaelic tribes now sort of identifying with the anglo saxons and they're like we're like englishmen now right

against like the norman yoke

and uh this is the sort of um beginning of uh like that trying to like get back to the original state of uh

like gaelic uh sort of a tribal uh nomad free

sat doun

in

is a sort of

baked that

ah that's

yeah i mean um

no yeah urban malism hast told me about that

it's on me about the norman the norman pill

thats so to speak

a man

you know more about french stuff than i do i've realized jus by talking

like i don't know about the french school in the twentieth century but

that's really it

like france

and i know more french revolutionary history than i do i'm not that interested in it i don't know why it just doesn't interest me that much

really wow i do mainly because of the ideological background like that's the beginning of you know

the so called lafhton

revolution so to speak of fright

but

just like i don't know there's a sense i've always had like being an american i guess i'm like

like

like old school american where i'm like what is fucking europe have to do with me like i don't give a fuck about what they're doing like i don't care i like a want like the whole point of america is to like not give a shit about europe anymore like we're doing our own thing

in my opinion right like

it's so it annoyed it's always been perpetually annoying to me when people are like

take like up as like the model of sophistication

because like i meet all these europeans and they're just like they're fucking like college kid americans they have like

oh it's like

they're just like god it sucks

i want to ask you a question in america now

i i

i had a newfound interest in david lynch

for a few weeks

before a week ago when i realized my psychosis was reaching its limit

but

perhap

m

to me david lynch is like one probably the most important american artist

that's living right now beside in the field of the

bill

he is to me wen essentially american he's a pragmatic he represents american pragmatism like

doesn't have to make sense it just has to work

right

what but what i mean i don't think that's that true of his process actually i think he's actually like i think that he portrays himself as like you know working from

intuitions and these sorts of things

but uh i don't believe him for a second um i know i know that trick

and he is a very deep ss like symbolist

and he plans everything meticulously

in what he's doing

oh really is i yeah absolutely absolutely absolutely

um hish his stuff he's very much informed by uh some specific like kind of like new thought like sort of mystical stuff i mean you know that he's like really involved in uh transcendental meditation and stuff like that

but a lot of his his work

comes from reading these the sort of literature of like the weird like the weird like new a gy sort of stuff in america in california especially

in it's like the sixties

and earlier i mean he did he deals a lot with like secret societies and stuff like that he's not like

he knows what symbols he's using to and deploying for like specific reasons like

like the in twin peaks right it's not like a coincidence that it's like

red curtains and like a checker board floor like that is a

masonic symbolism you know

he's from like a deep dense like old school like masonic area in california and shit to if i recall correctly

i can see that too

his stup scares his

his twin peaks the return

especially that one

i

it has profoundly scared me the most out of anything i've ever

consumed media wise because its proximity to dreams has like been a part of my own

i struggle with psychosis

in a sense like there's

something that i just feel is true about where it's coming from that

this is all a dream

there is something wrong with our reality

sertisf

right

i remember from firewalk with me when it's like

when

philip jeffries you know what i'm talking about

when he walks into the f b i station and

ah

cooper's looking on camera to see him

and

he walks past them and then they have this really weird moment and then

all of a sudden he's gone

right

and the

but him and lynch remember him it's like i relate to that a lot for some reason because it's like

it's just this weird sensedjavou i don't know

like something something can happen

and then not happen at the same time

that makes sense

happened

no way like things just diappear like and no one will believe you if you're like where did that there was a thing here and now it's gone

yeah

it' a

jackuh from uh the perfume nationalist uh always like to compare

uh the american reality to like a soap opera in that way or like specifically i think he's talks about uh

this one season of a

maybe dallas or something but it turns out like the whole season

is just a dream and like everything that happened in it is like ret condit it just like disappears

uh that type of uh that type of like television uh pacing like the narra like

where the

the narrative right the narrative that's being told in this story

has to make these sort of indescribable jumps and leaps

through like a kind of p like just

like

you just have to jump with it or not there's no explanation

and it's always from like economic concerns or from like concerns that are in these like boardroom deals

and that's the same with like the story we tell and like the news cycle

where it's like up yeah so we that was a thing and it was real and we're all talking about it

but now we're not

because you know it's been ordered that we don't talk about it

but we act as if we've all decided to not talk about it anymore

but it's been disappeared on us it was taken away from us so i know that you strike me as more of like very much

and

metaphysically frugal

i should say like you don't like to

be very speculative or like

made

this

venture into this bullshits going like supernatural stuff but

in twin peaks and from other

lynch's work i can't help but get the feeling if he really is

knee deepen

oultism and symbolism

right

m

is there a certain point where it's like do these people really do

believe in some kind of

i don't know if i'd call it a supernatural power buty just

a fundamentally different view of

how time and space work

and are they right it's

it's just well i mean you you could see if you say they're like saying they're right gets you a lot in this world there it's a good bargain to make with the devil right the gods of this world

you get a for it you'll get riches you'll get everything

you know like are they right like

because

following following you know their their path that it might bring you riches you know

out of it there's a lot to gain materially

but what is lost like spiritually we i do mean to say like from a pragmatic perspective like

is what they're doing does it work like are they actually

experiencing reality something real in a way that's

different from the rest of us like do they

do they have insight into some sien supernatural reality we don't have not

n no no not at all

not

couldn't cultivate like not that it's bg it's nothing nothing is like they're not gaining anything like

this this notion that people get this sort of a

mystical gnostical like revelation of like an outer realm like on d m t

yeah blah blah blah or whatever

this is all bullshit like none nothing that they've gotten or ever gleaned

was isn't just like found in a book somewhere

a already written down and like already a cliche

even

so yeah i don't think that they they're tapped into the higher order of things i think david lynch is a great artist i think he's a great formalist

i think he's tapped into a lot of a

that sort of um that underside of america which is obviously like included with his uh interest in like secret societies and things like that

that's a big part of american history and he shows off a lot of his knowledge of this history like in his work

a lot of people like critics who are less literate in these things right they just go like

wow look how wacky and random like these things are but like there's nothing wacky and random david lynch has ever done

he's like

meticulously purposeful

that's interesting you know um

i don't know at a certain point where where do you begin to

kind of like

dip do you depart from any like scientific realism do you think

modern science has it all

under control so to speak or

i think no i think that we have like part of the problem like would you think would be the most like speculative and daring

you a reality you have

most speculative and daring thing is always to be a christian

like authentically like to actually mean it

like because you can say these things like and they've sort of become cliches and people say them without really knowing what they mean

but i really like i really do believe

and i

in a

good like i believe

and i

it's not it's not even like an intellectual like um yeah like axiom or like a presupposition or something like it's

an undeniable reality

that that

in my life

that i perceive

like every moment so i can't

it's not

there is no separation to me between like a like

speculative sy

and the reality like i think that like authentically if you really engage with

the christian foric and like the hermanudics

of of

of like biblical irony

and like dialectics and like these sorts of things that emerge

from reading the bible like over and over and over again by so many people over generation

to apply this to like history so many different levels

things

ah just yield so many insights

in a way that went

you could just say this could be like the first baptism you could say right where you go like

wow this method this sort of thing is interesting

and it could be pragmatic and useful right and like you can still have a sort of gap from it

but then there event i don't know for me there was just like

a few moments

of like an actual just like

fuckin perception

that there was no gap that like

you know like the te that it's alrea like it's real like it's not a

preceptor like

even like just a small mere metaphor like a guide or

you know a model or whatever but it's like identical to reality

no but even beyond for example history

in the understanding of human history do you think when you say you're christian you also

except

all of the kind of

t's h say

metaphysical

depth of that like for example that

oh

there is

this has a consequence not just for our world of discourse and meaning and

rationality and so on but

refers to something outside like of

inherent to being itself like there's something about nature

itself that is

guilt

correctly

understood by christianity

absolutely yeah yeah no i think that it like accurately describes the world

interesting

yeah myd like saying my views pretty much the same like if science is in contradiction with this

fundamental wisdom you derive from the rmenutic

than science this is a

the not not the gonor

the n light

enlightment tried to eliminate the category of of revelation that has existed in like all systems of conceptions of psychology and like humanity

for eternity really

like almost no one to deny the possibility or the reality of revelation

is something that is very modern

and i almost would like want to equate it to like the great apostasy

like p pretold in like revelations itself

that that this is sort of like a true

like the rejection

of revelation and a rejection of like truth

in that real sense

into a world of like say tanic like say tanic wills and just energies

so

i don't know like what about

this christian view of satan

do you think that there's any reality to this

beyond

like subjective experience or whatever do you think there is a real

forrse of evil

i do think there is like a real evil in the world

and i do think that it's it's manifest it's like it's something it's it actually is created by like faith it's created by like what you could what like psychic energy like

people talk about eer goors or whatever if you read these sort of like

chaos magic type guys that nick land and what noto get into

um like you know thought bodies or you know body uh bodies in the knowo a sphere or whatever

the sort of um

transcendental entities

that aren't like visible

but um you can sort of

feel acting in the world i think this is true like this is what like a corporation is to write where it's like

where is coca cola

but like where it like where is like the body of coca cola like you know this entity

that uh that takes up so much space and has its like tendrils everywhere

i think this is a way of seeing the world i think it's you have to see sort of like in four dimensions i guess

to to see like the tendrils of such things

but like you know i do see in this way like i can't this is sort of a

i think what some people

with the term psychogeography and stuff

in the nineties two thousand

bo

h if you have like a a better knowledge of this sort of like history and like you know the development of a place and time your relation to it like when i when i walk around

a city i can see things that other people can't see

and those things were are there even though they can't see them if that makes sense

so like the

of like of evil in that sense

in like a kind of transcendental sense

is real even if people don't see it

im

i

interesting

yeah i mean

so kind of shifting gears a little bit

what

what do you think so we've been seeing the rise of a so called marxism leninism with wvoke characteristics

very recently and i think i've actually converted a lot of people into that religion myself

a lot of people who were liberals or calling themselves anarchists

have suddenly become begun to identify as marxist leninis just to contrast themselves to me

right

because i brought out this primary contradiction

i

what

so it's going

yes

great

yeah so what what do you think um

what do you think is the source of this big

shit going on on

on to because i struggle to understand it i mean

there there's a lot of

you know i go on twitter and i just see like a bunch of hate against me a lot and i just

and i what i know i see some of the hate against you but we're talking here like thousands and thousands of people

so i'm struggling to understand like m

i don't know i just feel disappointed because

i don't know how to

i don't know how to be the thing that they're making me into that they hate so much it's like

even i don't even i a person who hates them

don't really think it's that deep

you know what i mean i i i

yeah i struggle to really be worthy of

the hatred

they're giving me

it's like if anything you should just take that as like you're actually doing something meaningful

because you know that's like

the there would be no reaction

if there was no i

if there isn't a true

like basically the internet is kind of it's like a machine that's trying to eliminate truth

if you think about this like all these people are uh

they're on there to enforce their group collective psychoss

that they have a developed together

and like they create this sort of a comic book world

that that they keep alive through their collective role playing and larping

right

and if you

go in there

the board over and you tell them that like what they're

they're playing a game that like isn't real

then they freak out and they don't like that and they want you out of the club

because everyone theres larping and like you're supposed to be in there larping cause that's what you're supposed to do online

so if you stop larping

thelt people can tell

a for instance

well'slo like kyle raton house right

this happened

all of the like the based in red pill the like white nationalist type guys or whatever they're like this is our guy where you know sonoran kyle

he's going in he's like taking down the lower races and h you know he's presaging the race war or whatever

when we resurrect glorious hyperborea and become more like sweden

um and then he goes on tucker and he's likeh yeah i'm not racist i support b l m this had nothing to do with the race like i like at the end of the day the kid shot three fucking white anarchists you know it's kind of funny

am

and they were all disappointed like and they're like i prayed for this kid like he's dead to me now etcea

why is that

as he broke

airplaything like they like he didn't but he didn't he stopped larping with them

yeah i mean m

i don't know i just say fuck america burn it all down like you weren't lark

like you're being realistic you're being pragmatic you're saying like

you can't actually like how could you be a socialist without saying you like love the people like the country that you're in or whatever you know what i mean like how how is that even possible

that's a true thing and that's something that actually makes sense if you're trying to do something in the world if you're just trying to larp like you're ruining everyone's fun th basically you think all these people are just larping

and that i'm ruining the

the game for them yet

yeah it's just a game it's not real

theyir li

as like revolutionaries and then they go and do whatever they normally do

they don't it doesn't mean anything

m

yeah it's interesting

i mean m

it terly means nothing

this thing that's going on with the communist party is actually taking off like the

joe simms is

flying around the country meeting with chapters

trying too late

give speeches about me and caleb and

we have them in a panic

there exteminantly unlocked out of their handlet

because their handlers are like we don't do that

yeah i want to know like how far can i take this without getting the

negative attention of

they're handlers

if they are really being controlled by the government like have i done something very dangerous something i kind of worry about now you know like

ah

but i

yeah

that's

that's what's going to happen look at fred hampton what happened to fred hampton like that what it what happens to people actually do shit

in this country

this is why christian

man like what it what does it mean like you you think some of the twitter stuff is artificial i mean that's something i was wondering too like because it only started happening

after the party came absolutely with me

absolutely there's

forms there's tons of like accounts that exist to you it's so weird yeah i didn't do that yeah

you knowh i did i know people reason i find it weirdest is i can understand

if it happened once

that i go viral with thousands of tweets hating on me

but i see multiple tweets about me

screamed shots at me like

they get like get up to ten thousand likes consistently

after i started to be openly hostile with the leadership of the ca

it's a really weird coincidence you know i have no idea where that's coming from

i didn't even know that there was that many

but like marxist leninism in the u s

you know i

it's like how many of these people are there you know

to contain

y it's not real man these things are these things are controlled like the internet these are

these like little tribes mamgmetic tribes these things are designed to be

the replacement for what used to be our insane asylum system

i'm not even kidding like that's what the point is you've got these people you've got mentally ill people you got lock down you keep them in these like corrals

you got em like living this fantasy world you keep the larp going

and then you can move mobilize them to do various things this is something that was done studied

this is like you know it's a means of population control it's rolled out across the entire country

and at this point you know i don't think

the real the thing that i think is happening to america right now

is that the the the people who created these programs are like you know the confluence of all of the different people trying to create these program propaganda programs and

population control programs

is that they've all come together

and now they can't undo it and they don't know how to make it stop anymore so you cad youre not even being productive for their own ends so i do think there's a lot of like authentic hostility and age you know me wrong not trying to

we've got under the rug but

i just wonder like

thousands

ofh you know what i mean like that is

is that all real is that all like

actual people or is it bogts

because i don't know ten like ten

consistently thousands just like

wow that's

you know i think i know the government smart how they do that sit we's like

something goes virlent a's a feedback loop and then people actually do become invested because they think

that there's something here behind this but in reality it

it's nothing i mean

i i i a guess i didn't even know that there was this many marxist leninists in america i didn't even know that there's like literally

you know

thousands of these people that are

have their attention on me

know that our marx slendess

simple but

there's not

a ah yeah

its just how it is

so so so is this really like so the so the government has taken note of me that and that this is their response pretty much

of them man i tried to tell you but thisk i don't want to

i don't want to poke the beehive too much but

i feel like the government has to do a way better job because

although it was really annoying to me and it was to see me all says back

bro the c p s a has been

the cut out for like

how many talking decades it's not a real place it's not a real party it's another one of these containments chains like

but i really just want to those people doing anything

but i want to see one

yeah but i want to see the

i want to see how far i can take it though you know like i want to see a

if like i want to basically test the waters i want to know the exact limits you know what i mean

m

of like how far this can actually be taken at what point sh

do i have to give up

right

because

the way the way that i think of it is that

before you exhaust the limit you don't know what the limit is you know

you have to get there first

said

that

but i

i don't know it it it

itus

i struggle to understand

why they are so popular on twitter but nowhere else

that makes sense like

why is it

be i feel like it has to be at least partially artificial i feel like

this is how i think about it psychologically

when we see why does twitter exists

why does it exist

no idea

a

your mike's kind of cutting out

twitter exists

i have no idea no idea

the twitter

we w do any of these corporations exist like how does facebook exist like how do any of my know they i know't the background on facebook but i don't know anything about twitter

whll point was

to forment revolutions in north africa

by giving all these people these phones

so that you could track

all of their all of their like social media posting and things like that

and then you could direct

those people with with people on the ground and out because you have the whole network topology of it

it's a surveillance

and it's also one for gathering data that's why twitter's free

because you're giving away the

and it's

that there people are mapping it and they're using these maps and when they end up

that's that's the whole point

yeah

that's

like

you

you like they can just fucking the host of antibodies out

if you know that's how it works like there's people monitoring these things

i feel like sometimes the government does succeed in psychologically manipulating me but

only temporarily like only for a day or two and then i

return back

so i kind of feel like

i really want to see like what is the best they have in terms of

there's there's si weapons

because i'm not really impressed by what they're doing so far

it's not even that there has to be like a directed thing it's that everyone is deputized to do this

if that makes sense like like replicating the the system's logic

just so

on their orown

like that like it it's it's emerging in a way so you have like you know there's

because a lot of those things are probably like uh just like people acting

as enforcers right

like why does anyone the there is an element to this where

you know i understand the're herd din a bunch of individuals former herd and their herd in terms has a specific impression on individuals

but

that's where you can have artificial manipulation because

when you if you're let's say you're just a random guy right you don't really assume the full force of power of being a mob

first you see what the herd is saying

like let's say you opened up you tube what would you see see counterpoins and vosh and destiny

i go those are the people that

concentrate a bunch of attention on them that's the other those are like that's where it's happening i'm just some random individual right who am i

i feel like it's the same thing like let's say they just boosted these tweets to like

ten thousand

artificially

and

then you're just some random dude who sees it tween like oh it's got ten thousand likes let me give a like you know what i mean like that's how these feedback mechanisms work i

so yeah no they do that that's why also like they like there's not an open policy on these metrics like it's actually very occulted

um and more so over time like for instance like them getting rid of the the appearance of like dislikes or whatever

because government videos are getting all massed downloaded and things like that because that's that's also what happened

to the c pusas videos of the let their last two videos

were so downvoted to oblivion like and their comments were just all hostile

and then i went and saw that the dislikes were removed and i was like

wow

this is

convenient

n know the thing is that

like

you're

pening what our system is designed to destroy

right that's effectively what you want to do right

because you're say you're saying right like

china china

chinese communism like better than here

yeah or like you know

itd

be there needs to be like a revolution effectively

that you're and

you're not an antitalinist leftist you're not you're not totally reconcilable to the i m f in the world bank blah blah blah blah blah

ah you're not going to play ball

with like the normal electoral politics you don't want to go in with the democrats or whatever at least these i think that's a probably anding for right i think that's i think that's probably why they find me if the

are even paying attention to me the biggest threat

is i am really going all in on third parties or a third a third party and sp i think it's going to be the people's party right

well that's what i hope

that's what i want

want

want that's the number one thing

doesn't really matter you can be you can be hyper anarchist you can be a fucking like anyth minor

minor attracted person advocate a narcotrans humanist

who wants to eliminate on ninety percent of the soity besides the minors

that's where i draw the line

we don't want any of those

that's this is no that i'm saying this is the even that is totally reconcilable with the system

you know mean like that person yeah yeah that person yeah i thought i thought you meant like cet oh no no no oka okay no no no no okay no that's not what i meant what i meant what i meant was like in the eyes of the system like all of these things are perfectly like you know that person fits in actually pretty perfectly well that's not even likei yeah i agree that's actually the total

yeah if you you're repeating back like the sort of thing yeah dude i was i was going to say i was going to be a you know du we can't have pedals in the people's forty come on

that's

no noo of course of course fucking no i mean i look we can have

libertarians we can have right wingers we can have

we can even have you know

liberals we can have progressives

we're caing have anyone but that that's where we i think the most important no i think the most important thing is actually just a

like

like for instance virginia ray i'm like obsessed with ethiopia right now

butt european americans totally swung the election in virginia

by n vote i heard about that

they swung it

the read

because abiden's

my whole thing is i think that the uniting thing should just be like religion

like basically because like basically like the problem of the democrat the democrats are fucking the party of atheism

that's what it is it's the party of

of meaninglessness

it's of cafeteria pick whatever you want

who fucking cares and ultimately the only religion it does uphold is satanism it's constantly defending satanism

constantly defending the church of satan constantly saying

that like any sort of like accult ism is actually really cool and based

etcetera and like this is hyper alienating to religious people obviously right like what the fuck d like why wouldn't it be like like if you're if you believe in like the reality of like

these sort of a nefarious forces

the people who worship them like i don't know you're not going to think that they're like on your side right

i think that's like why that's like why i was drawn to the republicans anyway like way earlier it had much more to do with me realizing that like i

i like

uh is more of like a spiritual thing like i was like the democrats or

fucking like

the republicans are satanic in another way but like the average

republican

is i

they're just like they they have a more like evangelical worldview where they take the

somehing like the anti christ very seriously for instance right

and that's sort of like a been a rallying thing right is like people being like no i won't

like i don't like the i hate the anti christ right like this mem

that is a that's not a leftist mem right but it's also not like a right wing

say right like what is it

well you know

what i've been thinking about is that

america's evangelical or protestan whatever

culture is

it has a very specific millenarianism and apocalypticism where

the apocalypse is always around the corner but

apocalypse is not paradise apocalypse is just as complete

arbitrary and almost meaningless just annihilation oh

think about our fascination re revelation

what does it actually say in the book of revelation

what is the apocalypse

no idea but

it it's f got to read it angles would tell you to read it angles and marx si that it was the most revolutionary book in the bible for americans though it's nuclear armageddon right it's just this

thing that happens in our whole society collapses and everything's gone

which means nothing none of it was even meaningful in the first place at least it's what it

what it is is the renovation of the world and fire right so the world like and you caln say this is what blake carries what the fire is

these are like the revolutions

that spread

across the world

that is that is the this is the christian apocalypse

like we live in these times like the only role is on fire

americans put up

with

strip malls and our boring society and

all the dumb shit that we have in this country mcdonald's whatever

we only put up with it

because we think there's going to be an apocalypse that's going to

wipe away everything and set everything right

right

but it's not it's not going to happen now it's going to happen

later right

it's going to happen it's always something that's going to happen but this is

what allows us to

that that's a futurist

so there's different ways of interpreting revelation in the bible right so what you're talking about that would be the futurist interpretation

right were it weere the apocalypse is this thing

but it's in the future

it's a not going to be something i see its not something i have to live with or deal with

it always is like in the future it always has this

sense of

not imminence with a name but imminence like it it's just about to happen it's just around the corner

and we have this anxiety that it's

just going to have

two

ah yeah

well that's that's sort of the thing like if you have a futurist interpretation of it then you have this anxiety and you're trying

this is like where some christian theology comes up with the conception of like the restrainer or whatever where it's like

like it cant always be come

yeah yeah cat catacon

y yeah ya

i

more of like the radical reformationist flavor and i

think that the apocalypse is a good thing

and that it's always happening and we're in the middle of it

and that's and we also know where it ultimately ends

because if we're in the middle of it and we know what that is then like we know what the end is too

and the end

is basically the triumph of the good

in eternity right is like the world's reformed in fire

and we have we bring about

a new life

yeah

i

id always like to say it's already happened

if we're in a post apocalyptic society i don't think so

well i like the idea that it's already happened it's very ha gelian to me you know like a

but that

that's a that that is the interpretation that marx angles take to because that's a that's what's called the predters interpretation

and the predurist interpretation is that this ha that all the events in the book of revelation have already happened and they describe like the reign of nero

but that isn't what

the evangelical or like the more radical like anabaptists

the cus sites and these types of people through history interpreted it

yeah this because that same interpretation like if you say it happened in the past in the pope can't isn't the anti christ

mm

interesting

jesuits came up with these two readings the futurist in the preders reading during the reformation as part of the counter reformation

because they couldn't actually contest

with protestant interpretation of red revelation

i

if it was

a y

unfolding event that was happening in our own times and not something to be put off into the future

weor had already happened

but what what what

what room is there then for reconciliation

like if it's always

happening all the time when does it end

so this

at the end man and the last judgment man

day no one knows the day or the hour when that is but we do know what happens and we can see it happening

come reality is one continuous apocalypse that

that's the whole point

the point is is that the reality is the apocalypse i e like the unveiling or the revelation the unveiling of of

of

to it himself through creation like we are the

we ore the word of god

like this is the and it's a coherent

expression

in in you know the entirety of time or what you think that can be kind of reconciled with the predterist view in a way that

for example

reality is one continuous apocalypse but we can only ever experience it after

after it

it is

after it

after it has disclosed itself in this way

it it does

the apocalypse is disclosed anew

it's not only one revelation it's many revelations

cross this

yeah but that's part of revelation in fact like the thing is you just got to read the book man like i don't know it's a book that's unlike

their book

it's a uniquely it's a very singular type of book

and

in its specificity of every single wine and word choice you know what i mean like

a

oh it's hard to have a conversation about because it's like actually very dense

there's like a lot of stuff that happens it's like a very very dense

sort of parable

so the

the viewers of the pope as the antichrist

so

what is your view of

do does orthodoxy take it this far is only protestantism where

so this is sort of what that this is sort of what the split was over because the orthodox they have like patriarchs and things like this

but they do not they do not like they like

i mean it depends on who you ask they've being there and it's like the orthodox church is also kind of liberalized a lot i mean like all churches have kind of a

their their ostentation to being an unbroken tradition is kind of farcical

they're always reforming themselves

and then the protestants take the blame for being like the reformers or whatever as if

the orox church is the same as it was and

the early days of christ or whatever

but they're they're more ec ecuenical these days but way back the day oh yeah they would they call the pope the anti christ all the fucking time

wow

so be this is this is an interesting thing right martin luther for instance

there was an emissary from the ethiopian orthodox church who came to visit luther and he sid they shared like you know their things and i

the ethiopian orthodox guy said that it was a perfectly fine church it was in accord with orthodoxy

so he was sort of saying like in a way the protestant reformation was a return to tradition

in the heard that every sort of national orthodox churches

i've heard i've actually heard that before

on that view

i view it

yeah

yeah

i

that's interesting like

get it right now like what is the actual reigning catholic power we have a catholic president the pope and the rockefeller foundation are indistinguishable

am

like this isn't christianity like the cat there that's not what christianity is

the roman anti christ like obviously it's so patently blatantly true

i don't know so less other people disagree

but he he one of the things that i have to ask is uh

with roman paganism

is that a corruption from some kind of original

uh monofusa because

christianity is the merger of

semitic religion right with the indo european

pantheon

through the form of the roman empire

so

kind of

in some ways

yeah yeah it's more complicated than that man it's really a lot more complicated than that as i've been discovering because you

that

h

it's not that simple because where did what is roman paganism

like what at what time like what does that mean

yeah i just see it as the the polythism of the rom you know the roman religion

i i'm not that educated on they have like they had like different type like bah

was a lot like

really

imagine rome just imagine like what is america's

that roams like

like we're very very very similar

like we're actually i keep thinking about how similar our times are to like

times of christ in the sense of the

you know roman empire was going through a lot of the same

the

r moorals that we we are

and like their their religion is like you know this is like

like rome has like transgender like imperial like you know conquests and things like this like

if you want to uh

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yeah let's let's let's let's just like get back to we're saying

yeah i was just saying like where rome is like a really

what i was getting really interested in recently was like the like roman and

uh like tribune of the plebes and things like this i think we need a tribune of the pleabes

um that would be great that's like what

that's effectively what

people are trying to do with occupy

was effectively a tribuune of the plebes which is like

beating a senate

to like elect like the people's representatives

to like kind of circumvent congress

this is a this is a really a

this is a very like how should i put it

non christian thing to say but i have to play the say tanic devil's advocate

so i saw this theory once

that

the story of christianity was a kind of a

yeah this is uh caesar's cra yeah it yeah create yeah that's the i know this

that's the one is there's some parts of that there as some parts of that which are like kind of true in some parts that are not it's actually a

i've been really invested spent years looking at uh the create the h

the early early christian apocrypha

and um the changes to

specific passages and gospels and like letters epistles and like which things are left out etc

because there is this like

early on

a civil war in the church over

where like it was going to go

you know and a big part of that was the

what's their family

that's a whole famly that you've read the book right so it's it's not diecletian is it fuck what's the name

there's like a family that a one of the roman patriarchal families

that were like early christians

and i

yeah i'm like

you know there's like

people who think that they're connected to paul and things like that i've gone down like all the rabbit holes

it's kind of hard to tell

new testament scholarship and this sort of stuff is

constantly in a flux because m

we keep finding more stuff and then it's like

peop and it's like super political right to like do um

a sort of reinterpretation in light of like new evidence or to try to pousit

sort of a continuity

oflam

like who what parties were involved here in writing which parts cause like the documentary record is fragmented and

we don't even have access to all of it because there's so much shit the vatican has

yeah i mean um

i just find it very strange

how the martyrdom of caesar has been so like underemphasized

like

that was crazy how he was

he was he was martyred

a for being a champion of the people and then

the there was an entire

cult of caesar that was created after

a the his last name became the title of the emperor's

rome afterwards and it's like

i feel like the mythology of that

what happened to that you know that's like a really big story r i know that there was shakespeare's julius caesar and that's what

most people know

the story for but

it's so weird how that mythology has just never

well it's because a caesar isn't came on to like take this sort of sense of like the way that the enlightenment would read caesar

is as a r n n ad a

as a despot who's appealing to like basically like the lumpins

uh to you know seize like arbitrary power and uh

like take people's properties and things like this

yeah and that's how they would have interpreted it i was really so i was so sad when i saw

when i when i found out that the

rosa luxemburg used to operate under the pen name junius

after brutus

right and i was like no yeah

well there's also a kind of civic mythology in a way connecting o

and kind of conflating together in a way a brutus of troy with brutus m

helps kill caesar in the founding of britain like as in like bruton like britain like brutus is one of the ancestral like mythological figures

of the british

andh like there's a lot ofh people who took like uh like uh the roman republic

s the model to go by and yeah that's what was my foundation

that was the the neoclassical myth was the return to rles because it's also like the huge influence of like cicero onyah medieval h pedagogy like cicero was take like it's kind of funny uh

compared to like what cicero is actually like

but like

yeah he was i say he's like a hedge fund guy because he really was he was invested in all these like early like trade corporations

yeah

cicero is kind of funny

ship live you

well this is's what's funny is that it's because m

you could say that we can see this more now when we read it or it's like well obviously we like julius caesar

but it's because we're actually closer to like rome then the

then made were

right yeah so like they were reading these things and they were like not like they didn't even this is at the time where they still didn't really under they didn't really understand

what a mass sport spectacle would look like like what the purpose of the coliseums was

there's a whole kind of mythology they had where they interpreted like

that they were just like you know people like being killed like on stage and things like this and that's like all that they did at the coliseums was like

these theatres of cruelty

th like it's probably much more like that they were like carnivals which is what they were called and

that they had it wasn't necessarily that the gladiators were even killing each other maybe they were like more like w w f guys

you know

they're like professional fighters

and h things like this

and uh that like this sort of mass sporting uh phantom didn't exist in the times when uh

people were romanticizing the roman republic

so they couldn't even understand like what

the roman empire was alike

because we we were we were actually closer

to the empire and the levels of like a

civic infrastructure and like the size of the empire and like the way h

the administration and things work

than than you know these british people were

yeah i mean um

it's so weird how michael parenti was the first to make the connection between

caesar and

i

you know like

i guess left wing populism or whatever and i think the context was hugo chavez right

his job as was the caesar of ar

of our time you know

he was the ultimate example of that

you want to know who was julius caesar just look at yugochav as both were

latin speaking

yes

so that's a good addition

im

but

yeah this whole thing is really what caesar caesar's about the forgiveness of debts that's how he gained his his meat like that's what it was all about

you know he he ran on forgivens forgiveness of debts

basically in pretty much all ways like even when like you know he beat someone

he would have forgive them and you know he'd show and they would join him

how do

benevolence

this is

to go you know

there's no like the sort of um the problem with like internet politics the way people do this is ah

they think that they need to find

a particular position

uh kind of abstractly and they'll hold that position and they'll pull everyone to that position somehow

ah but that's not really

how it shoul work like

in a more like pragmatic sense

you want go out and just start a

you

replace the existing order by creating one that's better

within that exists

so i think that's like the real

project a third party right if you want to do like a caesarism you're going to do this

ah

in the

in the structures that are laid out for you you actually have to make

i don't know if we can have a caiesarism in the u s i think

trump was probably

maybe in twenty sixteen at least he was very close to this

i guess you could

i have like i mean i'm just speculating here like coming up with things but i thought of like the notion of like m

i elections ostensibly

but they don't do very good so what if we ran our own election to elect a candidate but what it was was this sort of h like tournament structure

of

people actually like debate it like debating on issues or whatever and we kind of like

outst this

to the people themselves like create a more democratic electoral system

that actually reflects and seat of people you know picking me means a do decide the leader of the people's party

a tribune of the pleades

how interesting

that's actually really yeah that trib you know because then you're actually you're actually building the authority of the party becaus and you're because of people are participating in this like right and you

this and like it's building the intelligence of it too because you're seeing like what is like the most soalable platform that could like a tract people to think of it i don't know why people didn't make the connection to caesarism

more

in the beginning because if you think about it

the whole concept of the proletariat was this kind of like

uh it was a kind of teasing

is a kind of like

challenge to

the neo classical roman citizen as like this model of republican virtue

who are saying oh you're talking about the citizen the french citizen of the universal republic whatever

well just like in ancient rome the citizen too becomes divided

and that's

that's the primary contradiction we have the universal citizen

sure classes are eliminated formally but

now we have the proletarians and so on and so on

but

it's all away the practice of the roman proletariat precipitates

the end of the republic

and that i think you can

we read that and say

the existence of the proletariat

precipitates the end of the bouzeoir

a formal state

and it's sublation

in the f into some kind of empire right

but

not empire in this in the bad sense but just in the sense of like

i return to like

a rule that is legitimated by

something more than just the form of the state itself

yeah

i mean like

that i just

i don't think the way people are playing the politics game or at least the millennials i feel like as a generation millennials of like almost learned nothing

about how to play the politics game

and i

i like

really it's like it's almost like i can't even make the first step

because i don't even know what planet i'm on most of the time i just like

people are tweeting on me oh you're a chopnists like w are we still doing this like

i left you guys in twenty

fifteen

and i went my own way and i came back and they haven't changed

it's like really that's

we're still doing this

it's still our people are going to keep doing it unless we're still doing something better

this like weird thing where people are just like

oh you're a racist then you're it is a dude

have you not matured this whole time nothing happened nothing changed

i thought i thought we would we would have gotten to a point by now where it's like ok we can we actually talk about real

the real world

aren we're still talking about

our little bubble

how pure you are within the bubble

re like i don't know it's

i just think no one grew up

since i left them

you know

i can't hear you

i don't know what's going on

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ay or anything

es it's the input

the problem with the input setting

ah now

yeah i can hear exactly

dude i sort of god my electronics get fucked all the time

i don't know what's going on

but that's how i'm scared to move beyond the yeddi mke

the u s we might because it's like

yeah it's just

seems very complicated

yeah i think my cat i plug to thin but whatever

anyway

i i what i was saying is uh i think uh

if i recall correctly

is a

like i don't feel like millennials like have learned

the politics game

this isn't really that like real to them

um i feel like the like everyone and it's like part of part like the reason why it can keep going is because people are like basically addicted to pornography

in like mental pornography or like you know video game

um like feedback uh reward systems like loot crate bullshit nft's

h crypto currency like the notion that like you know you're going to speculate and like

uh make the you're going to be the big influencer and get famous and like then you won't have to worry about any of these things anymore

that

all of that

is the problem

it's like

like it's a we're like a smut addld civilization like it's really like the opium a epidemic

it's not even just opium it's like

just like a complete uh

to try to escape from acknowledging the reality of i always i'm a very i don't w to say i'm an empathetic person but i do always put myself in the head of my enemy

like how could you live like this i want to see how they

live

how dod they get by

this

way of thinking

and i always struggle to be like how

how cauld i imagine myself being one of them like

somebody who's

always

you know virtue signaling and talking about y

here is the bullet points of why haw has is a

the sagnist racists

the

i don't know what

reactionary

firstly

he has come

comleetly against the movement it's like

these if you like to get this pleasure from using these words like they're like

participating in some kind of like social

reality and they're addressing this fall they're moving up

they're moving up in the sort of like a culted hierarchy of like this like this little lodge

by like repeating the dogmas or whatever it's not it's not real communication it's not communicating what you think it's communicating

if that makes sense

eight

like it's a

the content

is a pretty

entirely meaningless like the charges but its like it's like it just every time i try to put myself in their head

i just get this sick feeling in my stomach how the far could you live like

you know what i mean they're miserable they're all miserable they have hate themselves they have to be really miserable oh my god so god de for it

damn

this fire alarm because

just this weird department

god

you time me cook anything it goes off

yeah i mean m

yeah i don't know it's

a

i i i have empathy for them but uh they uh they embrace their own misery like they create their uh like uh this is why like uh i think christian uh ethics and uh hermanutics are interesting because um it's like uh swedenburg would say this too

people choose to go to hell and know some people enjoy being in hell there are some people who enjoy like inflicting pain on themselves he's a thing i would understand if there's states like

let's say there's a real movement and struggle that's made real achievements

then i would get it because you're it's a mat it's there's actually something at stake like you're there being this dog matic

be and disemotional because like they're

they don't want to lose

you know their position and they don't want to lose

there they're part of it's there's some real world

reality to it where it's like yeah we can't risk it but

what i'm trying to think is like

why are people so close minded and dogmatic about everything

they're trained to be that way but what is it for because it's not like they're

part of some political movement that's gotten anywhere in the real world so it's like

what do you really have to lose by just being a little bit more open minded

i don't know

um

what dod they have to lose

like basically if you embed yourself in one of these like societies of like mutual scapegoating and whatnot

what you have to lose is now you're getting all everything that you've doled out

all the time you've been in there it's going to come down to you

b every time you went out you like cancell like wrote ups and you went you were surveilling people and like you know

writing up all their list of sins before of a bad sentiments and

bad idiology and you wrote them up and you tried to get m cruify in the public stage thatill happen to you as soon as you realize

what you've done and you've tried to like change

it'll all come back to you

and that's and they know that they're all afraid of doing it i've seen it like

it's the same on the right too ironically

like all these people aren't actually as racist as they pretend to be and all of these other things

and i

if you meet any of them in real life

they're they're not like that at all it's they're playing this game

and their status in this game is determined by the

finding like that right pose to fit

i

so that like it's like the based pose or like in the left version of be the most ethically good one in the right one it's almost the most

uh ethically uh

nihilistic in a way yeah like the more i res and i've said this before the reason is because the right

is is trying define itself in america as a form of

total resistance against the

a discursive tyranny of the left so they'll do everything they can to prove

how much

they don't care a virtue signal to anyone whatever but

the issue that i find with that is that

there's a lot of people

who just so happened to

at the same time be completely socially ostracized and cancelled they're also

scum bags like petals think about peedals righte like it

and what pt

what point does being a pedal become based just because you're

defying the discourse so you have to be very careful right it's

not everything that the discourse

uh is against

is good

it's just that yeah

you can have other reasons for not liking things you know i mean like

you can still be against pedals without being a virtue signaaler for the discourse

that makes sense you know yeah

yeah yeah well it's also like the irony there is like ok cool itt's shut down fortune

its like yeah ok start there's like just turn it off

it go away

i

yea we're going to just suddenly you're quiet

like it is because you know this is a thing is that

the pedal chi is becoming normalized

on the left

it's becoming it was already this is a part of like the last thank you sixti yeah yeah that that's true

but for a long time

you know they the left pretended to be against it or whatever but now they're starting to be like oh let's have empathy

and the first

so i don't know if they're they're actually going to start saying children are

awful are

are not protected anymore but

they're going to start by saying oh let's

let's treat the the this genuine sexual orientation with

h with like artificial pornography and

robots like vouch sed or whatever

and that's completely fine because no children are involved but you know that's

i you know what it all it is all they're saying like what vosh is saying there is that

in japan right now

basically they already have their paradise for what they're looking for right like you can get all of that pornography and

um uh in a video game form or you know peripheral like sex toys or whatever the fuck

they just don't give a fuck there their real problem is that there's just still like the last residual remnants

of like a christian like blue law

regarding like this type of thing

in the marketplace

not being allowed to be sold

like all they all they really care about is like just maximal

consumption of like you know like that sort of shit

that's it like that's all it means

yeah that's

that's what i mean when it's like when someone like vouch is saying that like

i think defending like hen ti

i think that's going to be the source of the conservative revolution on the left and i think i might benefit

from it a lot which is that

as soon as

so look right now the left has this idea in america which is like

anything that is part of the discourse and looks like it's part of

the progress of society is good and then if you're opposed that you're a reactionary

well

as soon as people start bringing up the nuance of

you know pedals and how that it's just a sexual orientation it's not their fault

this is going to increasingly become discursively relevant and people are going to be forced to draw red lines

and drawing a red line is the first step

to being able to confront

their modern progress in general

and

i i just wonder how are you going to how are these

left these opposed to me calling me ectionly

how are they going to draw a red line like what's

what's the basis of your red line because

you know

how are you going to maintain this idea that you're a part of some kind of like

real progress of going forward in history

and at the same time just be like you know what this is my red line i don't care how irrational i seem

ah balk that shit

it's not hap

right

that's going to be their gateway drug to like

taking my pill i hope

you know yeah you would hope but maybe uh

i don't know man

i don't really know what

that's a that's placing bets on the

on a human nature that i might not necessarily on a or at least a

one that is defined in opposition to revelation

could say

would i go towards

because the norm in human history is closer to like what they're trying to create

and the as like camille pag do you see those things i retweeted from about camille paglia like all her defenses of namble and things like that over the years

yeah i i i know about that that's why i hate i i hate camilla

the thing is like she's she's ok like when she's writing about some

some things like i've read a lot of her stuff but you know she was like an accolade of bloom who is like an accolade of fry and like fries really

much better than all of them

so

you know that's how i see it

iight

she was saying you know in there right like you know it's really just these abrahamic faiths that have this quirk

or whatever s's against it a man boy love

she's a to like yah nitschan

she loves the nietse and danseian paganism

i've already accepted it though what was that movie they had ale movie what is it i haven't seen it

um but it's uh call me by call me by your name i think that's what it's called right isn't it about like a man uh

with like an underage boy that's like a relationship ah

no i never heard of that

it's it was a it was a very popular movie this this was like before the cuties debacle even

and it's kind of ironic because it didn't get as much as the outroar even though it's like kind of more blatantly a

pro pedophileic or pro pederastic in this sense

and the kuties movie which was actually kind of trying to be critical

jesus

what the hell

that's not that's not that that's not new though this is aristocratic morality this is british this is almost like the height of britishness is like this oscar wild type stuff

this is a

it's kind of a part of the progressive tradition in that sense

because they were going against like these anti sodomy laws or whatever in britain

and i

this was like kind of conflated in there and in fact if you go all the way back you can read bentham

talking about h

the legalization of patteraski in one of his one of his rightars the saing is that without venturing too much in this territory don't you think that the lefties are going to be forced with a lot of arguments where it's like

by trying to draw a red line when it comes to that they're going to be like

oh you're you seemed like

just like the reactionaries in the eighties and nineties when it came to other minorities

and whatever like you're good jes is right you sound just like a reactionary with regards like

how are they going to like

deal with that

like how are they going to

he like no this one' is different

what is their justification gonna be

well i don't't that's what i think is that my hypothesis is that

they're going to have a complete existential crisis because

they don't have any red lines right now

but they're going to need to discover one unless they're nice myaes no less the left wants to eventually accept

like pedal shit and b c ality they're going to have to discover something th they do

i think that's what most leftists are like thoug like quote unquote leftists on the internet like the radical leftists like the ultu leftists or whatever they're like furries they're like

people who live on it

and they're like deviant art people they're like uh they're uh

a deep dark dank

part of internet pornography you know

that is a

it' is where it all come from

like

it's concentric with those places yeah i you would not have

and that we don't want to be discriminatory against anyone reemvers which

but

you would not believe how much

uh i don't know much about the furry movement

so you know whatever

but

you would not know how much furries have been on my back

on twitter like i get attacked by them like almost every day

i look at the vanguard

they're the vanguard party man they're the vanguard party because they're the ones who want to upload themselves into and like have an a a digital avatar in the metavers

actually

this is like something one of the guys you

who was like working on metaver stuff or whatever had to write like a post being like

h like addressing like how many furris were e maailing him like excitedly

about some one of these like a neurolink technology sort of things

these are the people they want to live in in the internet

where they can be anything and they can have sex with anything or whatever

mm

man i

you know

i can't imagine people who have to just

spend are you a person who gets to spend a lot of time alone or just maybe just with your wife like not with crowds or pretty much like all the time

that yeah that's what i'm trying to say is like

i can't imagine what it be like to be a person who never i feek privacy is our only salvation in this in this age

like our ability to just be alone

is the biggest grace and blessing we could have because

being forced to be socialized with all these people or whatever it's like

i could not do it i don't have the i think you

i think i socializing that way is kind of antisocial in this day and age if that mean so it is but like when you're trapped

in being forced to be around these

people these lefties or whatever have a fun man i have so much fun when it happens to me i don't know what imagine i don't i feel like you take your privacy for grantedcs imagine if that's your whole life you is always around them

always

h that's what it was like when i went to college i guess so i kind of i kind of remember and what i did was i just spent a lot of time on my own you know

reading

but in some ways this is why i've like been really interested in taugh

thomas the great saying no saint anthony the great what am i saying

a saint anthony the great the hermit the great desert father

um because i feel like that's sort of what it's like that that's the salvation you find

in this day and age like he's the one who's like constantly harangued by demons if you look up like paintings of him like they're like

well and i always lovem like that's me on twitter like that's what i feel like

there's all these things like attacking me and like a holding on to me

and i just have to ah

it's weird because it's kind of seems like itd be antisocial to like

embrace solitude in a way

but i think that it's a

paradoxically extremely pro social in the sense it is positively

well i can i can talk to people as human beings very easily but

i always tell this to my chad is that i cannot talk to c c t v cameras

people who just never know how to turn off their

their discourse

their stream of discourse

and just give m riddles man it's fun

yeah i don't know it's just tough for me to like

yeah you uh i feel like h

yeah you have a you more investment in your you

public image i feel

then i

and i have

yeah i kind of enjoy i don't really care like i kind of enjoy when a bunch of people are upset at me like i think it's funny

so like i like

so

so like in the same situations though like if i'm surrounded by those sorts of people i just have fun

i have so much fun asking them questions and like

you know just like

like getting it like

i just like moving them aor it just it's fun

yeah i don't know it's like um

i felt physically sick

for like three days after being on twitter

that took a break from twitter and then

i felt so much better just taking a break and i was like what the hell was i doing i fel like i blacked out

and was yeah

i got trapped

on twitter

i've done that like i you

because i felt i got gaslighted i gas lighted myself what the fuct like

this has nothing to do with

where my train of thought was ma a week ago

the fuck happened

yeah i mean h

it happens man um i i've had a i feel like a

sometimes it's like uh when that sort of thing happens it's like uh you have to it's like

you you kind of it's not like you're asking for or you deserve it

but there is something like that you have to learn from it because nothing like that garners a roleing that just still kind of has me a little shock is like

thousands where did the thousands come from i get it if there's like hundreds

but like ten thousand people a

on my beak's really important

it because no one had articulated

to any sort of audience at all

a position that

socialists should be patriotic

i e andh not um kind of like antipatriotic or seeking to kind of um

a race the

history of america as like a kind of blight

upon what i find that ne is that the way they cope when you respond there like

well the only reason other countries are

marx slans country the patriotic iscaus

that's only in so far as they're victims of imperialism but otherwise they wouldn't be patriotic

and what i have to tell those people is that

m

that's such a condescending

stupid rew beks

you realize these people these people aren't

part of your university i know wen your university

people leverage their identities to get ahead for their careers

and they're making it seem like entire states are leveraging

their p o c identity to get ahead right or to virtual

that's not how it works when they say that they'ir patriots

it's not because they're oppressed they're genuinely people who love their country and love

you know their history and their people and it's not

just it's not as though it's not a way of saying

oh i'm ap pre i'm oppressed and i want

you know

i want you to but it's

it comes from like an alienation with their own history though too be cause like a lot of the times like the people who are most vocally like anti

or like like they're a kind of lack of interest in the history of america because it's more complicated

that's one of the things that bothers me right where it's like

do i get to be offended when people make like you know these like

wide generalizations and stereotypes of like

the tite like what the early american

people were like and like what they believed and you know like what their goals were and like

what they were trying to do and like how they viewed the world

be people have a totally skewed conception of like all of this and it's like

don't have like a kind of

not a relativistic one but a kind of a sense of the proportion of things in history so it's like

okay you're saying america is like reactionary or like bourgeois revolution blah blah blah

but it's like what was better at the time

at the exact same time like what society you going to point to

like that's like the context required to like

appreciate any of these sleds right british eumpire

yeah

you do you think you' also agreed that we're probably going to prepare meg in markal

oh dude i've been saying that for just as long as you have man really not longer oh yeah wow

yeah i feel like it was n obvious

but he's a things like how we claim credit when it happens like

is there a place i go to to be like yeah pay up

like how am i supposed to

blame the credit for that because i really don't

i have gone to going i want to start claiming credit for being right about shit you know

well if you really want to do that and you want to profit off of it monetarily then you can just go to a beting market and you can uh put on a thing like a date with a time you can go down to vegas and uh you can make tons of bets on stupid shit like this anywhere man so

if you really want to put your money down and i go s i don't want to monetary benefit but like

i want all of these lefties who say like all hawses

whatever i want them to just be like yes hass right and they want

it i want the goodd

my eagle wants

to be so solly

what happens is this is what i would say is like this eas this is whathy i believe or what i've experienced is a lot of times these people were like really like you know outrageously like you know responding in this way or whatever

it's because this thing is going to like nist in their mind

um like it's like like

if it's like because they have like a knee jerk like pavlovian reactions like an overreact to it

because this thing is going to like haunt their minds and in some cases

it's sort of like uh this like pain which is sort of like you know sticking your tongue in where your tooth just fell out and you're like poking the nerve and

you can't stop yourself from doing it for some reason

and i

they'll just keep doing that and they'll keep the'll come back

they come back

to to get for correction

and then eventually they'll get it

it's happened to me before there's people who have like you know hated me

and the was like constantly trying to tell me i'm wrong or whatever and

they'll come back and they'd be like okay you're like right about this one thing but i think you're still wrong about x y z

and the's just like over and over and over again and you know sometimes they're incapable of making the

you know the recognition at the end and sometimes they're just like thanks

that's nice you get that when someone says thanks

yeah but he with me is that i don't

feel like i'm going to reuse these people when they say thank for red izing thank you sa i feel like i'm still a little bitter i'm going to be like you know what fuck you you should have said thingk saf

yeah have to

it's hard for me to forgive honesty it's so hard

and now dude that's like i'm for real though this is like the

the message of christ you know i

i'm like i'm very serious about this though i'm like you know like

i i see so many people like affect it and like i hate how it's used as like a political prop but i mean like

it's

it's a

it's like the most important book ever written and it's like very fucking

now it's life changing to read and i reread

and i

that's what people have been saying for forever and it's like unique in that way unlike other things

you know my relation to religion a lot of the time and this is a self criticism i'm going to do is that i'm a hypocrite so what i do is i say

there's a lot of salvation here and wisdom or whatever but i'm going to ignore it in tentionally

so i can sin a lot

and then yes when i'm done sinning i'll come back to it and

learn my lesson but first i want's

that's how i know you're an american actually in your heart because that's that's the american relation that's the pragmatic relation really yeah precisely

you get drunk on saturday night and then you go over sunday morning

yah the irish way to you know that's that's my whole f that's my life

uh in some ways but um that's not really what it's about like

and that's that's the outward ceremony of it all

yeah know when you say that it's one hundred percent true like a

despite my ethnic whatever background i'm one hundred percent american and

that's in my soul that's something deep in my soul is very american

and i just can't control that you know

it's whether i like america or not i have the curse

america andsidem

we in some ways it's not well like that's why it's like because everything comes mixed and you know like because there's some aspects of like what what was being like

kind of covered up like all of these things being like put into one campus like sinful things or like things

but ah you know

you know are bad and like banned and that wasn't good that wasn't a good relation because there were good things in there too and you don't want to ban good things

so then you have like every so like we've kind of been more in this like sort of like libertarian age

where it's kind of like everything out like you know everything everything everything we're going to try everything

all like you know

this repression of the freudian repression or whatever

we're going to go everything out in the open

and i feel like we've already like done that that's what the internet is everything out in the open we can like really confront

we can look at it be like ok so this is like what the psyche

of

of our people's lifs

like you knowking out there is so like let's decide if this is like what what do we do about

you know in a way my streams most of the time

's a form of sin to me

the way i act on stream in the type of shit i say onstream like nine nine percent of the time

um

i'm usually like this is not something i would say to logo

this' is not something i would say to kbo this is yeah this it's it it's well the thing is is like the medium compels it right like caause that's uh that's content and that's like and it's kind of funny people say that all the time on h twitch and like yeah like

its content but like

it drives i remember watching the saga like ice beside and ice beside and i feel oh you know we can

hes

is band so

oh i can't talk about it a

so my

it

we live in we live in the fucking dumbest times holy shit like it's so dumb

yeah

uh like i said it's like i'm

i want seventheen seventy six to commence again man

like this is what i believe in this is too much for me lok i mean

i'm i'm a i'm a humble peasant who lives in fear of the khan you know the khs wrath

why have to cower and fear

but

that

you're failing that dialectical challenge then there man you got to fight to the death no againstly going to fight to the death against the bad policy against a master slave dialected absolutely not

i humbly avow myself a slight

i have the 'mhappy consciousness of twitch

yeah yeah

yes you do have to have more of a stoical self conception to be a good streamer

because the whole goal is to be like destiny right and it's like nothing could phase destiny because

he has no shame

no my goal is

i pose to use this as a launching pad to start a media

yeah

i don't you guys your documentaries and things are probably the highest quality stuff there're some thats you gts that's what it's about that's honestly the debates are like mostly a waste of time

um i tried out like the tried out but it's really a wasted it wen what actually my goal is so the strategy is

accumulate concentrate and retain as much attention as possible for as long as possible

up the ante and keep upping the ante on the documentaries and

create a feedback cycle where

i constantly do stupid and ugly things

in order to produce

smart and beautiful things

better

move for you know

yeah

that's kind of that' it's a good it's a good move it's like it's like really hard for you it's like what tamerlan did tamarlane

he went and he did this horrible barbaric shit and then

he he collected all of the

the artists and the artisans and

painters and poets

philosophers and

he brought them to sammarkan

right and

the more ugly shitld he did and the more infamous he was the

the more beautiful the

products of the renaissance could be

i mean that's like the that's the sort of the

that's the sort of uh tragic mantle of the h commun the uh actual like communist revolutionaries right is uh

like maw and

of thalan is like we live in a time where a

i don't know i don't really know it's likeh you have you have to

like bay you have to like

in

inducted into like the fucking ac cult

in this country

like i feel like i'm like in a lot of ways i feel like i'm like

like the x mason or something like the x thirty third degree ascended same same i feel like i'm an x

i don't know if i ever got to that position but i always see myself as an ex

i see myself as mike from twin peaks i used to be you know mike like the bob friend who repented orever

i was like that i was in some strange

dark

mistical whatever place weere

i was tempt i didt never went there but

i was being tempted by some ark

presence of some kind

i just climbed my way out i guess

yeah it's like uh you kind of like uh

maat or down

but there's like key decision moments like i can remember times like i know what you know i was like

like the devil whispering in your ear and it's like when you make that decision it's like

you really are choosing like i work at the road i read a beautiful blog once

and it's from a long time ago where it'sauss you know

old

shitty blog simple blog

and it was just this guy describing how why he left freemasonry and you saying he got really high in the degrees of freemasonry

and then

he came to some kind of masonic

the ceremony was just him and another guy where they were meeting with

the leader of the freemason whatever itsen he was getting anointed with a degree or whatever

and then he said randomly just spontaneously

he looked around the masonic temple and he was just overcome with this

dark feeling and he said

i felt like i was in a coffin

like i looked around and i know the masons talk about a god and a grand architect but he said

i just had this very

huge feeling of death

and just i was in a coffin like

the masonic building was just this coffin right

yeah

and then he said so i turned around spontaneously and i left

and ever since then i never looked back and now i walk in the step of christ or whatever so

you know in the light of christ

so to me and you know it's so prop profound what he said h the coffin thing because

that is what masonry is it's

a way part of the that's actually part of the skull and bone ceremony yeah you lay in the coffin

well it the the masons

try to reify the living essence of god

and it is in a sense

like

a dead thing that they worship

worship disembodied reason

yeah

precisely and what it is is what it is is christianity without the revelation because it nows right

christ as a historical figure as a

person as a real person in the world

he's just he was just another messenger for this

embodied rationality precisely precisely yes

and

the revelation is another word for like the living the source of the living essence right that's something that's just

it's be it's can't be domesticated it can't be formally

can't be replicated with formal precision it can't be artificially created

not premise

holistic it's a monad

i'm getting to live d

but i

yeah it's that's like where the whole masonic cosmos comes from

is a well it's it's a little bit more complicated but the one that we know like enlightenment

erra maasonry on through like theosophy to now

is i

it's so influential that it's literally everywhere

that makes sense but it's plding that i've had people are consciously this i've had psychotic breaks rosi what the

fouk it is everywhere lif holy shit

this is not a joke this is this is real life this is not a get

like i went to the masonic temple once for a party

in event

and i just had like a near psychotic break

i would say yeah thankfully but

because i was like what the fuck this is actually real life this isn't like something i read on the computer like this is actually real life

they made of old building

dedicated to this

you know you should see san francisco it's literally like the masonic design city i walk around and i'm just like in a perpetual it's like

it's like one of the weirdest places in the country

but at like the masons built this place

it's so paranoid because in when you live in this world you want to feel like there's an element of spontaneity and

authentic oh that's the beauty of hagl the right is that literally everything you see

everything

literally everything to the smallest tiny little thing

is perfectly rational

you can and it has a perfectly reasonable like history

that would unfold

so much about the world like if you were to trace it like because it contains every piece

of the world contains the history of the whole entire world

yeah

it's up

so is that both and contt or independently i know both of

but also we kind of we've been i mean man we've been friends and talking about the same stuff for so long i know you guys are both

really into the

liness

more than ourg

a

monads

yeah

um it makes sense though this is like a the

it connects like john d dude it's

i don't know what other people are doing with their lives has but like i have such a great time just uncovering all of this crazy shit

about the world

and people get mad at me for like just talk what is the connection to john d

fro

well he wrote the monos hieroglyphica right which is the hieroglyphic monad and what it was is they used this sort of like

on a it was like called like um

hieroglyphic

hermanedics

and it's this idea of creating these like nested

layers of of

of meaning that are meant to mean different things to different audiences so it's encrypting

in this package for public consumption

mass different messages to different people

that's like where they're right there at like shakespearean theatre

com from is like this sort of

a type of storytelling

it now that like this was a

innovation

i

like uh in the book the hieroglyphic monarch itself it has like a geopolitical level like there are parts of it that are like meant for the queen to read and like there's like encry the you know what i mean like but it was also like

available for public consumption

yes but you know what's creeping me out is like

i have

done this practice like

independent

without knowing whatut john or any

lot of my writings in the past

have been layered like this

that's because we've all read shakespeare like i mean shakespeare basically is a

you know he's he's like a world historical figure

for this sort of reason and in fact

the this is like what's so fucking nuts about

like the actual

reality of

who wrote shakespeare and like what it actually means

it's because the shakespeare name and like the title and like this

figure

is also like a high it's a fucking hologram dude like it's not a real entity

it's a completely fictitious historical entity

and ah that it means different th like you know what i mean

it so this is like what the british

invented was this sort of

insane level you could call it like black magic and stuff like that right but what it is is like what

is like public relations marketing theat theare

stagecraft

narrative narrative oology like dramatizations acting

you know intelligence networks finance like manipulation of market i call pracy

i wonder if the monad is what i call the sovereign object

anglo saxon metaphysics because to me

this is all about the birth of of

this kind of substance or this kind of object which is

fundamentally

ah the only absolute everything else being like

transient and unreal or

not fundamental but

my question that what i never understood about monats is

how are there different monments

would it like

how

how are their differences

they said

you'd be you'd be like

honestly man like when it comes down to like like if you're like a more classically trained and like the philosophical like a rigor

rigamarole and whatnot so you could you should talk to combot about that because he would love to

go off on this

especially

and i won't do as good of a job as he will

ly because he's like i learned so much from him about this stuff because like that wasn't really my forte but i've goten

more

literate on that stuff over the years

but like i'm more of like a theology guy or whatever you know yeah and also literature

h yeah that's like i'm more of like into revelation i guess like have you have you read the um

the there a socialist realis book was post in the thirties it's called

oh

the road to the ocean

you know that one

no i haven't read that one

have you heard of it

i

i don't know if that is that the like exact english translation does i have a different name or because i don't know know

it's

ah

the road to the ocean

leonid leonard

i don't know that one

now

the good have you read it

yeah i really like it

i really like it

it's probably one of i don't reald a lot of literature actually

i'm kind of a fanatic i only read

per

the subtlety of literature is i don't have the saying man i wat movies really you know the best theory is literature

like it is so

's but that's why i lt

see look i'll read philosophy i'll read hegel

all read anything

literature is so much work for me

because

i don'tus it's so funny man yeah everyone everyone's like oh rick reading books like blah blah blah it's actually like it's uh

people say everyone has this anxiety because

the technology you could say the the mental like mappings like the

memory palaces and things like this that required

to actually like enjoy

a tightp like a renaissance n satire or something

is so far away from

but h the contemporary like pedagogical institutions tre eah like train your mental habits to be

it's so hard to appreciate

to appreciate literature you have to commitcate

so much you have to really pay a lot of attention

what's being

the thing is is that

like the whole point of literature

is a it's better than philosophy for this reason i agree because

because it tricked in when you're adapting your mind as a reader to like

rereed

this but

changing your mind

' is a change in your reality

like you will walk around after reading certain books and you will never see things the same way with

if you if you look at philosophers all they do is

he borrow saytings and mannerisms from literature

and

you think it's just an irony or like as they sit as shakespeare said or as whatever said

the cable does this all the time for example yeah

and the what the reason for that is because literature is where the fundamental stuff is right philosophy is just a secondhand

attempted

you know

just like the theology of revelation so you could sey like the

like this philosophy is then like like hegels sort of like the fill the theology of

the radical reformationist literature

yeah

yeah i would say so

it holl it made sense to me

and i would say like you know i

like that's even where like sort of marks and angles are to me in a sense where i think like uh

makey they they say a lot about it shows a lot about like the reality of oh this is this is also important

you know a lot of people don't realise this

but a lot of people specul that oh why is it that the revolution happened in russia

well

i'll tell you one thing

that made the bolseviks better than the european

marxes

they all came from the whole reason they became

also eggs

it was because of literature

it was all literature it was all russian revolutionary literature from

the nineteenth century that's where that was their background

and if you think about in america that's ok why are these people calling themselves communist

it's also for aesthetic reasons

and byasthetic reasons i don't mean cosmetic i mean like it's grounded in this like

re this aesthetic that of like this is how i make sense of the world right through this

literary is the story that i live in yeah exactly

but

when you look at american leftist the literature quote unquote that they're coming from

it's the like literature of disney channel teen

between shows and

the c w shows

this book fucking tumbler bullshit or whatever

and that's where their hole

literary aesthetic is coming from

it's coming from dumb movies and shit

whereas

no i'm not

don'tt me wrong i know movies are more stupid but i also kind of play with movies a little bit too i play with the dark night rises

a

bin in that kind of

we're just telling youn like chris nolan is the most obvious british intelligence eas the biggest in the world

do you know what school he went to like his whole life what his fam he's like a east india british east india guy like i you know i hate him right i only like his batman movies

in spite like

it's almost like the devil made this movie and that's how you can see

the anxieties of the ruling class or whatevern it

that's why i know th are the ones i'm with there i know that's like that's like the irony of it right is that everyone actually like didn't know one gave a shit about batman

and those manes we like the villains we like the things that

no one fears and no one

but then they made like the joker movie and like it's

you know it's ok it was pretty good it was a i like to

kind of forgetable though

not it doesn't it won't have the staying power as

beef lardgers ah there

yeah

yeah i don't

fledger tapped into some shit on that one though he went like he was like soundin like fuckin like

like tom wits and like fucking like he actually like whatight t you would be like for

but the characters that he took for inspiration were interesting because he specifically was trying to be like a tom waits joker like tom waits like the

like the junkyard band like hoarse voice

captain beeffart

fan tom waits

i don't know who tom wits is was tom w oh dude you gota listen to tom waits man this is american culture

m waits gotta

not joking this is like vital

oh iill know i wrote it down

but im

and dogs

a dog

you gotta listen to rain dog

yeah i mean m

you know but that's the thing is that

what if the first step to making american communism is we just need better literature we just need better

artists when you can't read

yeah

or just the better aesthetic in general right wrod i read a really good bock i'm not going to lie but people can't read anymore or what people want to read is a

is something that they've already read before it's like yeah everything's very sagulic

type of ambition and literature is considered pretentious well what you're trying to do anything

is people are going to

that they don't want to try i'm honest to god why do you think i scream

like

the only next step would be poor

why do you think i scream because

i believe you have to go to the lowest and most base medium of conveying information just to order i kind of agree yeah that's why i'm on twitter but

tweeters like you

know it's twitters like i guess like the closest we have to a literary medium if i if i

if i like i

if i believed people can be convinced like rat like not rationally but like through using their head o thank so much jackson precich so much then i would have just continued writing my books and wrote beautiful prose and poetry and

what i was working on was that

but

you have to begin from

the lowest

in order to make an effect

know i do think we have to make art about

how we are where we are because basically the counter narrative

is just the marvel cinematic universe because the marvel cinematic universe

doesn't exist for no reason

we like you know hard is the thing is a gat but

it has a purpose

it' a vital to our society

people don't even accept the possibility of other aesthetics so that's the terrifying thing is that

you know like

any movie that defies the mc u metanem me

like where you can't be like oh this is just like the m c like any movie that

is considered fascist than evil and

and right wing and problematic even fucking joker was considered

a very dangerous film because it wasn't m it's like

it's unbelievable how we've got to this point where like the only aesthetic

that's

it's not even that it's the only one we're allowed to have it's the it's the only one that people recognize exists beyond which

lies evil meaninglessness chaos and death

or whatever right

so it's very terrifying how like

you don't even write

you know i always i always say

i feel so much pity for the people that

that are heading on me on twitter order because

they will never have

and aesthetic experience

of

what i would consider authentic beauty they will never be able to just

they're missing out on a lot

what i

trying to say you know

they are in hell

yeah like there they

not happy people they're you usually like that's

sometimes what's fun to do like you know you get a you get a critic or whatever you just h

sirch they're at for like

depressed or kill myself or suicide or

depress you know all of these things and it's like oh yeah this is the type of person

i

yeah i mean um

i don't know it's it's it's

yeah there's just

fokman

a lot of it it's just there's a void it's like a nihilistic void and

i think that um yeah people should be

making better art but the thing is that a

the art mark like look at n f t s

like what is the ree what is art now

right

like i wrote this butk like i wrote my book wen but the book's real

is about like the what what the fate of the artists like in our own time or whatever

effectively right

and so many of the things that i wrote in this novel are now just not even metaphors they like just exist

there were like things that i was like making up or like

as like a parody or like as an extension of trends

andh now they're just real

and i

like what's you know

it's not what people want to read

what people want to read is the

now that mc u version of the

what type of literature they already like

i was like

like what do you get you get a ethno narcissistic

uh like family chronicles in the sort of iowa writers workshop style that the

new york times all props up

all these books no one actually reads but everyone reviews well

they just mutually say that they're all good but no one's actually reading these books

it's a totally like fake art market

h it's a totally fake like market

pretty much always

and i've been trying to like you know i've always wanted to breathe life into the arts because it feels kind of moribund

i'm but i

there's some good there's always good stuff happening it's just not happening for most people most people don't get to see it

yeah i mean

i don't know uh

did is that of

i don't n i still don't really know what an n f t is and i don't know if i want to commit to

it's a it's literally just a money laundering vehicle

it and the reason why it has to be an art object or quote unquote considered that way is because art in this sense is treated uniquely

in our like financial system and like people were using like paintings and stuff to launder money

and they started to like close down those loopholes so now we have an f t

and all the money laundering is just going into n ft

and people are pretending that something else is happening but that's all it is

i wonder if there's a way to m

i don't know

i'm always trying to find ways of making money so

how can i such ion american eyes you really are really you're i don't how can i get on get in on the scam you know what can i do s the american way that is literally the most tracking in the world

is like no like think about like ed ed and eddie did you watch ed eddi yes i did

at and i kind of have a love for this sort of hucksterishness of america where it's like

people are just like fucking crazy like plying their shit you know like everyone just like out there

whatever

but

it's turn it turns it this is like a theosophical thing though right because like a lot of it is like the powers of persuasion

the powers of marketing

the powers of selling yourself the powers of you know like

getting people to give you money

you know

is like

that's the skills that are

what's funny is that you know we talk about uh the liberal arts majors or whatever it's like oh those people aren't studying real sciences like you know you're reading uh

you're reading theory like that's not a real science like i do hard science and uh

i went to business school i studied marketing

like you know it's like what we have schools

that are just basically black magic schools

work it's like you learn how to

do marketing and like you know the

consumer consumer research and that's how you know we don't we don't have any markets anymore if we have real markets

wo would be able to go to a school for marketing a market some more you have to create markets no you have to create markets we create market

it's that's what we do we like that's that's how you make money you don't make money by selling things in a market you make a lot of money by creating a new market

yeah

go

that's what we do we create new markets and everything

that because that's how you you make money right and everyone's looking for a good scam so it's like hey we i'm going to open a market for f t s

i would saw that business school is the quickest way to waste your time because

real you don't understand business school

you don't understand what it's for

really

about creating a spirit of cour it's about networking it's about going on yeah true i alwys you don't do fucking anything if you me met anyone who's going to to me a real business

is very antisocial it's like

i'm more like a talp guy like

you can't be in an instance is not a businessman

no

tab was a day trader talab was he was on the trading desk

he's a broker he's an anti social

he represents like an anti social

eh but the think about what he actually is hetaleb is like the stoic financial individualist who's just speculating on things suspended in like liberal adaraxia

like i like tllad

but he is the epitome of like the roman roman stoic like the pre like

you know what i mean

he's just a

he's just placing his bets and like you know

with a view of the inevitable black swan of death

right

yeah but i

there's no there's no resurrection here

there's no

' so that's tleb but tleb is he's a day traitor this is the this is the ideology of finance bs this is rising grind sigma

grindst

des i

but this is what a marx and angles called the lump and proletariat reorganized at the level of like the aristocracy

yeah

if the financial anarchist the financial pirate i a letter of mark

i i don't know i always see it as antisocial because

its capitalism is fundamentally antisocial like

if we're going to have capitalism let's just

i'll just be a real capitalist i'm not going to be part of theirs you know socialism

network with all these people it's like what is capitalism mean because we don't have what is what is real capitalism i don't think anyone who self describes as a capitalist wouldn't call what we have now real capitalism is what's funny right yeah i guess someone's like like oh i'm on a real capitalist like you know i've read the theory i believe in capitalism and my interpretation of it and we definitely don't have capitalism

here are the reforms that i would recommend so that we could have

something closer to real capitalism

so like we don't have capitalism right now

because like capitalism is this fucking most nebulous bullshit

thing in the world it's a complete ideological fiction

what that means to people

like is so

vague and diffuse

yeah yeah i mean

but at the end of the day you know

if

i always sell those people a party is a corporation it's a business

that's the only reason parties exist today

that's the whole point of communism is that it's like i supposed to out compete

what is around it' is not supposed to be put in because

the good guys did a trick

like they did a trick

and i said we're liberals j k we're actually super far leftist and now you have to deal with it

and we're going to make utopia and you're going to begging you're going to kick and scream but it's good for your own good

which is the view of the fabians and all of the leftists

which is that

the people couldn't possibly accept this you have to do it through subterfuge

yeah yeah

that's not how it actually works you know

but that's how that's how they view it is this sort of subterfug you ha a building something this is fifteen years but do you have any info on the origins of the sixty nine thheen project like

who is is anyone behind this specifically like what

i remember it's some fucking it's definitely british though it all connects to what it all connects to like the

talking about like the international organization of like scientists and academic professionals etc

in the english speaking world the center for that is like

at the end of the day it's like london d c

manhattan

now

no

and that's one place and their whole thing right is like they want they like the notion of the anglers and in some ways like there's like rehabilitation of the british empire

i

thyk you go

sarrys the thing is i g

it's a weird form of rehabilitation because it's one where it's like listen like we accept like our own sins but like you know we're still

doing our best

the idea of the new british empire

what could the c pusa just endorsed it

in in their video they were saying

the sixty nineteen project is the way forward ok if you want me to tell you like le's see fund it it literally takes me like two seconds

find out i

fuck is going on with these things

oh it's new york times

that it's london

yeah

the new york times is a hereditary aristocracy you know

yeah yeah like it's uh it's ah

it's like a mold bugg us to always like to talk about how it's a it's a monarchy

in the state but yeah the new york times just takes its orders from basically like a guardian and like the general like

british

intelligence world think about itf they ran the russagate shit right

yeah where that come from it came from british intelligence

literally

literally that's not even a could that's not even speculation that's just like admitted history i know i know right absolutely

crazy no one gives a shiitp man no one can see it no if once you have the eyes to see that you can' see

so it's like try to like

soight like you know what you know why i stopped being interested in that is because

it's like

i

i started to see all this shit and then i was like

but what difference does it make

like n nobody cares you know so

i feel like i'm more of like in a david lynch mentality where it's like

ah who cares you know just

that's kind of that's i've been there man i know what that's like it's like woulden say it's a fun place to be but this is sort of like a i'd recommend this a blogna thing where he's talking about it's this essay he wrote about the various patrons you can have

i

and i

he says there's like this biggest gap where it's like at the end like you realize

you're writing for the void

and it's like

the end you accept that you're writing for the void you know something like that

where it's really like

i actually want to be writing for an audience ir

for

like this particular thing to see an immediate like feedback or whatever like yeah like that's all right i want to

but like that's that's something you want to get over that's a sickness

like wanting to like get the response that you desire from people for like telling the truth what you should really want

is the recognition of

h like

you to be already like reconciled

noo that's where i've been for years is that it's the void right

well i mean that's like a lot of that i that's like all of us that's like a big

it's a big like we have a big problem of nihilism like i know from myself like you know i feel like

hasn't been anihilist these days

it's like the way i've been though for years is that i didn't even go on twitter i was just like

i don't care to have an audience i just want to do this

for its own sake

even just maybe for me but

i don't have an audience hore

i only started having an audience when i went live

but i completely disconnected like my esoteric

true

theory that i care about with this this is just like an experiment

in popular

discourse whatever the

i am not

one hundred thousand percent invested

i am invested in it to an extent but

now like my books now like the my writings you know like that's where my real soul is you know this is just

at

that's something i like that with

because like i wanted to be a writer right like i love

literature i've been writing stuff

for a long time

m poetry and things like that

so i was always like ok well like how do you actually do that and like how do you actually like do that today

like how do you get anyone to read your book and it's like

ok well you just like go to like a good scho

eight

get connections to like publishing industry type people right

and you just get like a book deal

but even worse is

how could anyone under how could get youle to understand it

you know what i mean like

i have a specific sense

and how do i convey that to others and because this is d like perfectly

yeah

i

the thing is is that you don't actually want to write for the public because writing for the public actually a book that speaks

greatly to the public means that that book is doomed

to die

that booetbook is totally irrelevant

that book is actually not even necessary

because all it's doing is uh telling people things that they already know right

yeah because it's like baseline readers can just totally exhaust it

and that's like most of media and things people encounter right where it's just like

on the first your first pass through you're like yup this

pretty much exhausted that's about it that's all it was

there it is is like a big circle like uh pops up disappears

doesn't really make a splash

because it didn't reveal anything

on the books that

are like

immortal books like eternal like books the books that stick around

where most of the time they're not ones that are popular in their time or even known or

you know some of them it like weren' weren't even published or just found in fragments or

you know things like this like those

the like

mobe dick for instance mobe dick massive flop no one read it wasn't read

for so long was like totally panned in the press

and then it was rediscovered by the modernists as like

this is it like this is already a modernist novel like this was so far ahead of its time

it reveals so much because herman melville was so far ahead

of the readers of his time

that

he couldn't even

like he encrypted this like understanding of his own time like and like

like theological problems and and like the development of philosophy and like american history

everything you could possibly fit together he's putting into like this encyclopedic type like

encrypted

kdex called moby dick

like you knowo

and

full at his own time couldn't understand it yeah i know it was impossible for them to understand it was only possible for people in the future to understand

well the thing is that

i became aware of this how that works

anything that means anything's only going to be appreciated

way later

it's not going to be like

but

that's why when i started streaming i started to

every time i'm

like people whenever that happens i'm like ok i

it's like it's like in terminator two when they're too late

and they're the're you know how they're like racing in that film against time

and you're too late well it doesn't matter because it's going to happen anyway but still you lost

that's how i think of it too it's like

my goal is to find a way to just

make an impression now and if i can't do that i don't care if it' like in a year or to be like oh

oz was right it's like yeah but

want it to be right now you know

you know i mean

like i messed up i failed that kind of that it's not it's not enough to be right

for me is thou is that that i feel like that sort of the desire to like you know you do a thing and then there's like the action media like reaction or like you know yeah that you cannot push this over and it'll fall

this is sort of something that i think is ingrained in a it's like part of the problem with um our generation or like being a

growing up with like this uh this uh

hyper stimulating environment

is with like so much immediate gratification

because that's not actually like how anything works

like anything that's meaningful

does not have that sort of

and actually give you like immedia feedback or it's that doesn't have this

this relation it's far more in the realm of ambiguity

and you not knowing like

dwelling in like unknowing and essentially like requiring faith

to continue forward right

because if you're writing this book

if you're like if you're like say you're like herman melville

and i

you're getting you're like kind of your your book sales from like your earlier books the ones that are popular before you start to piss off the critics your money starting to go away

yeat

pro s to go back to work

you can't just like fuck and be a writer anymore because you're not making enough money

and so you're back a like the customs house and things like that you're working this fucking

accounting job

and you're writing fucking moby dick

i

you're writing this

like you're putting all this effort into it like how did he do it how did he every day justify this to himself put it out there

gets totally ravaged in the press no one reads it

no cares

everyone calls him a madman he people thought he was dead when he was still alive he's like com completely irrelevant to like

the literary world to like aid world literature

he's a castaway people are writing things like pitying him

and trying to send him money because like you know

kind of poor

i

guy wrote he where did he find the power to do that you know like how do you do that

wh

kind of mindset you have to have to even be able to do something

yeah

the type of faith like hawthorne said that melville was

the most like religious person you'd ever met and the real problem melville had was that he was like

so dedicated to

the truth that like

he couldn't

decide like

what

like what like the historicity of christ and things like this and like what

like what was true in christianity and like what wasn't in this like age of enlightment

like that's why likeh one of his most like unread but like greatest works is a chloral

which is this so it's like one of the longest epic poems in english

and it's about his pilgrimage to jerusalem

when he actually did go

like his his spiritual struggle there and it's like such a

such a marvelous

fucking work of literature you know and it's uh

butac in

the i don't know man it's there's a little

with the treasures

hid in the world by people put in

lot of work

like storing up treasures in heaven you could say

and i

surprised to see you can find im you know and uh that's that's what life is like

yet

really expect a

you are

you know being in control of the powers of this world

you can in eternity if that makes sense

like we're doing something like melville does it will pay off like that doesn't you don't

it doesn't just

many strips don't burn

as it's as a as bolgakov said in a master marguarita

which i wasn't was only published in sammi sto in his time you know

these cripts don't burn

yeah m

no i get that

it's just um

yeah i mean uh yeah i know what you're saying

are going

i mean you're doing it you're doing good stuff and like i i i uh i mostly agree with you on things like or at least you see a lot of the same things that i do and uh which i feel like not a lot of people can see

or because i en like

especially like the more you uh

you are involved the kind of more blind you become unless you

kind of are always kind of like ah almost ritualistically destroying your own social capital in a way

which i could say i that's one way i could describe my own like internet career

is uh people call me like a relentless contrarian but it's also like uh

i just don't want to like i've been offer i've had many opportunities to sell out in a larger way than i've chosen to

how how do you if you don't mind asking do you have a job right now or what is

the way you're i just i make money from my from my patriar right now oh ok nice nice

so i just a

been making the podcast and

you know

i think most of the people who subscribe to me on patrin like

they're just like a

like what i do in general

or like just want me to like keep doing what i'm doing cause um i do like

different things you know like i'm i'm talking to you right now and like people who follow me will want to well would want me to talk to you right

yeah

i just like i live on alms i guess i'm kind of like a fucking pilgrim

it's how i choose to look at it i guess but uh

i'm hoping

to i have like other artistic projects in the works and things like that but

i sometimes feel like a

a much more important i mean northrop fry said this too that like in our age

it's almost more important to like get people to like

teach people how to read again in the first place

til i write something new for them to read

because

i

new things that are being made aren't very new

they're not really like

not necessary if that makes sense

like there's much more to be gained from us

like

learning more about the past

that there is for us to like

make another like trendy piece of like what like another kind of like black mirror

dystopia sci fi thing or whatever that everyone does

like do we need another one of these are they revealing anything not particularly

yeah

it's like what are we really alienated from is like fuckin

reality like the bigger reality of like global history

like you know these sorts of thing

you don't have like historical epics as movies anymore you know

nothing's grounded in reality

or in any sort of continuity

it's all sci fi worlds and alternate realities

yea i mean um

literature is harder to do than theory literature is harder than philosophy literature is harder than

anything

before we have the courage of great litter

la gre literature and art in this country we're not going to have i don't think

i think the reason people are on board with the infrared thing is aesthetic

honestly it is it's that

there's this fundamental sense

aesthetic doesn't mean just cosmetic it's i mean superficial i just mean like

it's a story that people like you know and

that's why i've been able to make the progress that i have but it's not nes it's not entirely sufficient you know

because

i still get i still managed to be entangled in this discoursive bullshits where all these fucking

stupid people on twitter are making is like oh are you an american chauvinist and

in august

dumb bullshit that completely is besides the point

you know

i writ my w

my whole aim in life right now is just i want to get to a space

beyond the discourse

i don't want to have to talk to leftist for the rest of my life i don't ever want to have to even talk to these people like

i don't ever want to ever have to like

even see these people

you know what i mean

you just have to like build your own fucking thing basically like that's

that's that sort of a

that was sort of a tragedy at least like me like my involvement on like internet politics or whatever

is that i have my whole thing is always always like i just want to like create like be like like

make like art

like what let's try to do something like you know meaningful

or whatever that'll like

that's really was more my inspiration like ive

just wanted to like make something like artful or like considered

we kind of mind altering in a way right like that's what art

is really supposed to do

and

that's like what a lot of the spirit of like twoentoyd and fifteen and things like that was to me was like a sort of like a

it was

but two thousand and tens aesthetics

had gotten so

and like they're still around

right but there was like this anybody

it's a brief attempt to do something else but it's kind of

the tragedy for me is that it's like

reconformed into this

like very

reducible

like you know like

fash wave

like roman statue blah blah this shit

it like so stale and it

it's not real life

yeah um

the leftisth is all the like they don't make good art like that's like you reme like there's all these like people go off and there like you know right wing or conservative people never make great art or whatever it's like only radical leftists not or and it's like

that's number one like totally untrue but number two like what the what have you done for me lately

what what do you what are your great works of art here pal if you're in charge and this is youreminy like what great art works you but it's the same as revolutions people are trying to claim the continuity of the great revolutionaries

but it's a tautology it's like how do you know lenin would be on your side how you know may would be on your side like

why because you feel like there's just this unbroken chain of progress and

constanate not succession this civily yeah i mean but

how do you know

that in lenin's time he wasn't considered a shitlord griftter

who is like going against the discourse because it when when you read it it that's really what it sounds like you know

it sounds like lenin was a pariah

for the international socialist movement

who was not liked by the majority of socialists internationally

who was going against the grain and who was being cancelled

by social democracy the same is true for mao

in regards to the soviet bureaucracy it like how do you know that

you know that the twitter mob would have been

with lennin at the time because i think all evidence points to the contrary

right

ah no these peo like yeah they're they're like they're like oh in uh the time these people would be nazis in nazi germany like they don't have the actual courage of convictions be caause they don't really have real convictions

they a have principals they have positions

can they have speculation the keep they don't they keep quoting marks and lenin and mao in these all these revolutionaries as if they're like

they're part of the continuity of that and

ah lenin what you see guys

our discourse represents the true inheritor and successor to

to lenin and it's like

but back then your discourse was international social democracy

right

you think that when lenin broke with those people he was just like

he was affirming the discourse no he was going against everything you know

i mean i don't know how these people what they have in mind but

um

he was there actually pretty content with the way things are actually is this i think i just don't think they have this

the recognition that

a

there can be meaning beyond the discourse

you know

it's not not everything

they feel like if the discourse breaks down

nothing can be meaningful so all the great revolutionaries in history

were always already part of the discourse right they were always already part of the twitter mob and they would have gotten

twenty thousand likes on twitter and they would have been rashioing

these people and that's how it would have been

yeah they're like they like yeah that they're when they when they are docsing a soccer mob

for for protesting

um against anti far or something yeah

wellhen i tell that is like that's what mau would have done here's all you have to to prove these people are not the successors of lenin in mau and so it's like ok lenin in mau built parties and led revolutions

how close are you to even getting

to a fraction of that you youar nowhere near that's like

how do you know you are the successors to these revolution actively affected that they'll say that they'll just do this the go well you're not doing that so effectively we're both now just acknowledging that we're just larping so stop pretending like we're doing anything other than but i feel the difference with me at the least is that

i just started

you know like a few months ago so

with the consequences i have for

what people are going to be doing politically we don't know yet but what they've been doing

has not made any change

for decades you know

well the is the failing if my

heart

yeah but you have to be like abby right now you have to lead

for if this is a time where martyrdom is called for a leadership

because your i feel like your job on twitch

is to destroy the discourse

and i

eight

you so what does that mean like how do you do that like how are you going to

get to the point where like

um

like

what what is it like i feel like you've made a name for yourself from being a

like like basically what you've this basic this this cancellation of yours recently right

the whole tropes of it

as from like the fact that you were like

being like unabashedly like masculine or and like invoking masculinity as like a

in a

aesthetically which is not normal for the most part on twitch

um

and so that they associate that with like in cells etca right

yeah

that the one of the chairs of the communist party she was left

oh is that all

are you there

one of the chairs of the communist party was like

i don't know what's going on with the socialist patriots but it kind of reminds me of the in l movement

this

ah yeah yah yah yeah yeah yeah

yeah yah yeah

well it's because like

like

you

they have to fit things into like a category to like on person you or whatever

but what's so really thing you saying in their view like masculinity means insult

what it means is what you're supposed to do is you're supposed to be like a polite person like destiny or whatever honestly this is the thing

like if you actually really want to you right

but to be fair though but those i don't aren't those people the insults

like destiny

destiny gets to that yes he's got allergies and he's whatever

he's famous i get that but like

when you take away the saing i don't have

i don't have a problem saying that i think destinys a respectable person in a lot of ways no he is but i'm just saying like i

aren't those

i i don't know like uh

it just seems a little paradoxical to me i don't know

but everyone's an in cell right now because and actually women are there's more that we it's the year of the fam cell right now did you see that that uh

there's more women now than men

who haven't had sex in the last six months

but i f i feel like that's everyone's an insul but it is now yeah

isn't that kind of more choice though because i think women

can

pretty much choose

right

like men are the ones who have to it not really

you see i mean they they kind of got you a little bit here

yeah i feel like you understand the dynamics

no

a fum cells a real deed

realolse are real

yeah

yeah interesting actually more of them than in ells right now it's actually you know i i never wanted to be like super into the sexuality stuff in the first i don't know why people honestly it's just like eva like bullshit and people just like basically just raify the the the market of like tinder and they make these uh

these a these three metaphors become conflated of like

the sex sex

the marketplace

and nature

like are all three be the same thing

so it's like so it's like

cat cat like social capital is like also pussy

so it's like if you don't make money then you then you're an insult because you don't get pussy

if the hear andm saying like it's all three things

yeah and so

if you don't seem like you're going to make a lot of money

i see it's just weird that there's so much public investment in the sexuality of

political figures

you know what i mean like it's not weird because we're living like porn empire and if you

it's likeverything's corn then it's like yeah obviously people beat off stll like the president

true probably

ya i mean um

yeah it

that is weird but

m

it's just funny seeing the like this seven year old woman who's for the chair of the c p s a

it kind of reminds me of the insult

why though you know

also like inscells is like such an inst the age of the inscels already over like that it was white boy summer was the end of the age of the inscel it's the age of fam cells now and actually you're all going to

when you i don't feel like people are underrating how bad that is going to make wellk to entertain that for a second

it is i do find it a little bit weird that

i did not interact with these women i had nothing against them i never said anything bad against them i had nothing to do with them

and yet i had scores of women

like imposing themselves on me in an unwanted way with

pictures the inappropriate pictures and

and no men can't be sexually harassed by women like it's fine and i saying that like you get no possy and like you're dick small like trying to like sexually humiliate you but it reminds me of the behavior of a bitter man against a random woman like

why are these women coming at me when

it reminds me of something an insl would do to a woman

i've met women themselves

women show me else a lot of women show me that they're stalkers and they're like harassers and shit

and

for the first time in my whole life i saw women doing that and it was against me

right

which shocked me because i was like

but why i never

it's not like

i get it if you defend yourself

then whatever go hard but

what did i ever do to you you know

would

what did i do to deserve this you know i don't deserve a picture of your

what i mean this

well it's not for you it's nothing actually those pictures are worth nothing it's meaningless you probably don't e remember what they look like because i don't pornog i thinks we ated with

but it's like you di's not even like special it doesn't mean anything it's like fucking spam like that's like the funny thing is that like

that sort of that would be consided like

you know in the one nine hundred forty s that's like you know that would be one of the most intimate things you could possibly do

send someone maybe i someone liked that it's because i'm from a lebanese culture but i just feel like when you send someone nude pictures of yourself it's like

that's

seems like a personal thing to do you know

ah

well it's not anymore i guess right we have like that's the internet that's porn stars etc so

not that special like that was actually just self promotion on their part they were just using you as an advertising vehicle

and basically you could say in a way they're really advertising towards like the other guys where they feel like now they're closer to her because they're not like you

so then there

does that make sense like there's a lot of like parasocial h

weird like fetish things in a

ok this is the symbolism of the horror of babylon in the bible actually is the way all of this work

yeah i mean um

so that's interesting i'm not you're way more in tune with cultural trends than me i don't

it's hard for me to keep up with all this all this shit but

think its it like it

just like that's uh the the that's the

zak geist or whatever manner the volksgeyst's you got to stay in touch with it

yeah

yeah

i

that yea it's just interesting i mean um

i do think people are very satisfied in general

people are very unsatisfied with

their sexuality and their relationships and their lives delately

but i just hate

i always preferred privacy i wish i didn't have to be involved

in other people's sexuality and

vice versa i wish i could just be

private but i can't anymore and i'm a public figure so

i always have to talk about it

all the time no

yeah yeah it's a

know i'm like what's funny is that like i'm like a i was like

like generally a pretty private person but now i'm like a very

public person i guess

yeah um

and that was like hard for

me but it was like kind of like i grew a lot through it was kind of more like a

i realize how little i actually like you know i

shit you know like you like you have like like everyone has like these insecurities about things and whatever

and uh clearly like that's what everyone's going to like target or like attempt to target in a like manipulating you in various ways

but like you know it doesn't really matter like you know you like

it's uh you can kind of like accept things about yourself and not really uh

really matter

but i

it's a

that's like the problem that's yeah it sucks being a public person in that sense like i do wish um

would have done it like fully anonymously but it's not really possible i tried really hard i was like

you didn't get doxed for a long time but it's inevitable

yeah i mean

it's kinda weird

i don't know

i my on my my internal reaction all the time is just

zzleman

mos jus pozzible

how am i supposed to react

what i mean like

like i have react

so

public reasons but internally i'm always just like

i force myself to care more than i do authentic

you know i foresaid you mean

but

that's why i'm not i'm taking breaks from twitter and shit because it's like

it's still tiringly bad for you

it's tir because my fear is that you are right if i go with my instinct and just ignore everything

they'll see that its like weakness and all look bad so i have to do something

the thing is like my solution basically is that like i i i don't

care to have a large audience at all actually try sometimes to like get rid of parts of my audience

o

it's been my solution because it's like people are being like annoying

i just got rid of them now

and it's great

if people aret like

someone' just being pastoring or

you know getting a

getting quote tweeted by annoying people i just i just block them i get rid of them

and it's it's a wonderful

highly recommend doing it there's actually because as you say like you say you want to be above the discourse

the moment you're above no course the weird fong is the all the psychological projection a lot of people do like

i don't maybe i don't i can't pick up on social cues or something but

every time something happens i

you will quote to me like has you just got shattered how do you feel and i'm like

um

now

andt nothing in they're like oh that's a cope you're actually

you're so mad

your soul has been shattered and you broken and destroyed and it's like

did something happen that i'm not aware of theirla it's literally like black magic because what it is yeah have

if you have a group of people right and they all start saying this and they all start

like no no no you're broken from this like and you're really actually

likes it makes me like paranoid and it makes me think like did something happen

that i should well the thing is exactly exactly so that like and then if

you get enough people doing this

then if you would like start to believe it yourself right and then you kind of make it actually happen right if like

if enough people every day everyone you met was just like looking at you and they're like

they're like

he to yourself

like how long would it take

how long would it take a start thinking about it actually a lot of people did say that to me a lot of people

but do you see what i'm saying where like that's it's actually like

like that is like a

like

god

what black magic means is that sort of this sort of like the use of these sort of like

i like repeated symbole exposures you knoww to mold your mind

so like these people like effectively like

you can say it's like very larpy and stuff and it's like

and it's like you know cyber bullying's not real you can turn it off all of this stuff's true

but like a lot like

i especially like i try to like see the best and people like be charitable even people who are being mean to

i like sometimes w'll be try to like be pretty even handed or whatever

but i

i

die

fuck i lost my train of thought there

shit

that's how it is man i don't know

i don't know man

tucking internet internet dynamics it's like i can explain shit to you it's good i can talk to you because you have to like go through it

but like i never talk about

in like being subject to this sort of shit

to other people because it would sound like i'm insane even though i'm describing things that are like perfectly real you know

to like

like imagine like a

you got you're like sitting at like hang out with like your friend who who like uh is like an electrician or something

mea

like so how's life going and it's like uh it's like you know uh

you know just uh people uh trying to like uh hack into all my accounts and uh

post my information on like a website that's a soley

inhabited by like uh neo nazis and uh like uh h tr like an hyper anarchists like leftists

for some reason both of them

here's the is like i just

i never thought of myself as such a good person but

compared to these people i think i am because

what i struggle to do is i always try to put myself in their head and be like why are you doing this why do this

like i wouldn't even do this to someone i hate

like what is the re is this just like a way of defying god

just like testing

testing the limits of beause to me these are just things that are not possible i couldn't

spend my time on twitter constantly fucking

you know

i try to put myself in their head and be like where do you where you getting this evil from where do you get that from you know

where does that even come from where does this hatred come from

you know

well the funny thing is is that like it is like like just from like

i'd

eerness and it actually is like it's like a it's like a self hatred

it manifests like a desire like for like the parts of the self that would want to be like imputated or whatever

is like projected out into the world

so it's like you have to like go out and like kill these things that sort of represent like an acknowledged part of what do you think i represent for all i have you know my haters go hard core i have a lot of really hard core they genuinely hate my goods

like what what is it that i represent to them

you think

i the same thing that fucking stalin represented paull the fucking trotsky is in new york city

really

so it's like you think like it's like an

edible thing like i like a fatherly figure to them or something or

i like authority they don't they like consensus

they like democrat that quote unquote democratic meaning oligarchic

condensus they don't like authority

they don't like sing like anyone speaking as if they have authority

where that authority like they can't that the authority comes from their own understanding

and not from the consensus

oky i see

see

so this is what i like

blake has this in like the everlasting gospel right where he says a

he spoke with authority not like a scribe

you know like he's not

point being like

like they're like scribes right like they'll go and they'll be like no the consensus right it says in this part

you have to go point at the document and then like you know you turn it into like this like flow chart

right we're going to make the consensus flow chart we'll all agree to it

but like what the what what jesus jesus doesn't have a flow chart he's just saying like i am the truth

that's so interesting that's so interesting

im

i just don't know i ust go outre and you're like i'm telling you the truth i think you are youle feel like it is the truth you think people feel like they either have to destroy me or like

m

just irrationally submit to me and they just want to preserve their rational faculties

and that's how they're doing it is by attacking me because i can understand that it's like

they're just trying to survive basically the feel like if they don't but the thing is that your criticisms are criticisms of the consensus

so it diverts from the consensus would mean that authority no longer resides in the consensus if like an individual can be

right

and the consensus wrong

that throse

organizational principle of this like what like a narcosyndicalist

idiology

of a w loop like because that's they believe effectively

that i

what

dem democratics like selection or whatever leads to perfect consensus is

and that there will never be like a situation where the consensus

is wrong

and like an individual on their own

correct

yeah

their dependency on the consensus personally is

maybe that's just what they've attached their entire sense of self to or

well the thing is that you attach your sense of self to this consensus because the closer you approximate the consensus that's like considered a proxy for like your intelligence and also your moral good

yeah

you know i'll tell you why it's it's i'm struggling because

i've been a leftist for ten years so i've been there done that for every single

thing you know pretty much almost like i've been through all the tendencies and i've been there i've been the ultra leftism and the enthusiasm

and the edginess in the right i've been everywhere right as a leftist

but i can never

search back into my past

and find the energy find like

any point of being able to be relayed

relatable to the

the haters

i was never a hater

that makes sense right

like someone who spends their time harassing people and like

i debate people and yell at them and shit but then it's done and i move on

i don't

ah well there's also a difference between like a type of like troll where you're trying to elicit like a dialectical response or whatever

like if you like you know what i mean versus one where it's just like

you die like di there's a difference like

there's a way to be like

you like combative

without being like like trying to be like an eliminationist or like a liquidationist or something

black one where you're trying to invite like a repost

so that you can like re which the you of like this di screeching hatred of the guy who tears his face off

i never have that feeling i have never had that feeling in my life

you know i'ming i mean it's kind of it's kind of like an autistic thing though like it's kind of like like

wait your han on hane ho

colloquial i meant colloquial sense like the way people use it on the internet or whatever like like like like meaning like the dominance of no a you mean like rationale you mean like like an automated response like you

not not in the sense of like

thisj

people with disabilities or anything like that now now now now

this year

all right i mean in yeah i mean in the sense of like like a

a kind of attachment to a specific like organizational principle

or a specific like

world picture you know what i mean where it's like

yeah um like that basically just like the the di the dislike of like change

y

yeah like the dis or that the fear of change like a kind of pathological fear of change actually

i think drives a lot of leftist which is kind of funny

i'm there

they actually don't want anything to change

shut

do want anything to really change

i kind of want things to be as they are

except more so

yeah yeah yeah i understand like

wor that's very miserable to me that's very sad

the conservatives

a real sayyeah well that's what i actually are deciding the system we have if you think about what reactionary means

aren't they the reactionaries

objective ly yeah yeah but

in a carnival upside down like mirror universe

where pretty much everything means is exact opposite

and this is what you'd expect and like somewhere that's like dominated by the anti christ effects

flay

is that it's like a perpetual carnival where everything's upside down all the time

and that as soon as you have like the camera obscura like the view

of like uh the like the christian hermanutic right you know what is

he is last heyar shall be first there you know

and then you can look at america and flip everything upside down

and it's like putting on those theday live glasses

you know

so it's like

who are the fascists is anthy fo

you know perfect like everything everything yeah

people call me a contraan but what i think is i'm just like looking at

i look at it every lates upside down the latest thing on twitter that i saw was that

the patriotic socialists are going to be the embryo of

fascism in america and that

we need to study the history of fascism in italy and germany to stop haz and the patriotic socialists because

they are mirroring the history of fascism

ironically like we were on that like what we

tried to debate

fucking keith woods and joel or whatever and they're the ones actually trying to do that they're not calling it

communism

they're calling it like fucking like labored nationalism or syndicalism or some fucking stupid

fusianism or what synarchism or

archeo future it like they'll come up with some fucking name for it

so it's not even the same thing it's a weird it's weird to me because it's like

ah

it's coming from the vash school of

of marxism according to which everything that's not liberal is fascist

so if you if you defy the liberal consensus that means

you're a fashist fascist

yeah right

but

and also it's interesting to me that there's they think there's only one anti fascist consensus the liberal one

but the soviet union bore

by far most of the brunt of that war

to the soviet anti fascism is completely different than the western kind

and for example lukas shenkos and already talking this no one knows any of this udy what it where did that happen in marvel i don't know what you're talking about one more movie was that but here's the thing is that both putin and lukas shenko are anti fascists right but they're outside of western liberalism o no no no no there they're fascists

so these people

it's like why is there only one anti fascist consensus why

what about the soviets

anti fascist go well is joe biding a fascist they go

yeah

it's like so did you vote for a fascist like who is it a fascist like you you're just you

uy they're basically saying that

but this is the straw man that's being created the patriotic socialist

a

super enthusiastic and jingo is stic about american but american imperialism yeah we want w're were in that with the

it's like this is

that's why i believe in satan

because

who else but sayart of livees

can can create such a deception like

anyone who i've spent my whole time on twitch yelling at people

forr being anglo imperialist

like

yeah it it i'm i'm just again i'm i'm

puzzled i'm stunned i don't even know how to respond to it it's like

what the fuck is going on it's like imagine being framed in a crime and you just

how are you supposed to respond you're not guilty

dude this is a

if you're a dusty avski

i know but i'm familiar with lega themes

fine i think there's a go that

that that's a big part of the brothers k is that exact thing were a

that feeling

t f w that feel one

but yeah i know what you mean man

i don't know's some it's kind of funny it's comical in some senses like the uh the uh

the hyperbole that exists on the internet

you know

yeah that

tens of thousands of people are like

di devouring the

communist patriotism or whatever it's a

funny

if that has any bearing on like the actual reality we live in

m

i'm so sick of being like an edible father that has to be

primordially repressed in order to create communities because that's happened so many times in my life w're like

i end up

the like people create communities around hating the

i feel like that you know there is a csych analytic

for my federal

agents that are after me whatever let me give you a pro tip

this is true in like elementary school too this is like a deep trauma i have it's like

brand groups

formed

based on excluding me hating me you know what i mean

speel like that's still true

entire communities prop up

just because

the

they just repress

they're just repressing the fact they hate me

but they can't justify it stick the one singular rational point of

consensus that they just subconsciously agree with

two holes

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i was it i don't think i was i've never been like that

like i'm hated on the internet i guess but that was kind of a novelty for me

yeah

generally well liked

my whole life like it's ind like you know what think it like people people genuinely either love me or hate me

i don't have anyone who's just like

indifferent yeah yeah you know what i mean you

ah

but i wish i did i wish i had people that were just indifferent

it's kind of funny to me because that's something that like people uh

on the internet try to like suggests that like uh you know i was like uh

i was like the nerd getting stuffed into a locker or whatever and i was like

i was pretty fine it was pretty you know you know i was kind of

i miss at least uh seeing like that many people that i was friends with

actually

that's the probably the only murder no i swear it's name is

because

my internet presence has just become how i wasn't in elementary school

and part of middle school which was

i was neither the nerd

nor the popular kid i was in i was always the controversial

guy who was like people i divided people everyone was always divided over me like you ether love me or hated me

but i was just a source of conflict that's what i was always just started conflict

to to yeah yeah i feel i was i was never learn a lot i was always the one who like disrupted

be like i would disrupt a friend group i would disrupt

a social dynamic

and people would just be divided on me as haz

or

complete piece of shit fuk him whatever

or

are we loyal to him we like like it's always it's always i've always been a source of division

my whole life

how i feel man

um yeah i used to do that

a lot to

uh but i always like i thought it was fun

a mind a mind was more like

man i was i don't know i just like the

like a kind of a

more of a trollle i guess online back like years ago

i

but it was fun

i've always been a troll on the it for as long as i've ever been on the internet

i was a troll all i did was troll that's all i did

when i you know what you know i never was a gamer when i had the video game consoles

and i had multiplayer exclusively to troll when i even when i was plaing was the st fin yeah all i did was stroll in video games that's all i ever did

and kind of do you know what that sort of represents it's something that i think about a lot because it's like what i like to do to do with video games was i never liked

play the game

that the video game was

but i like to like make up a game yes absolutely absolutely and that's exactly how it was absolutely

that's what i feel like is like yeah that's the key

yeah that's that's i n i never played games dude i never actually

i never

played games like based on what the game was meant for i always invented my own even halo like

one of the reason that yeah that's why halo is beautiful the custom game setting yeah that's i didn't even play the matchmaking

the halo was for me theater mode forge and custom games

and all i would do is make my own

games in those the i make my own things right

and

um

yeah but

no i was always a troll online you know like when facebook first started out

in middle school

i made like

thirty five facebook accounts just to troll my classmates like i would make

like every day i'd make a new facebook account

and i would add

i'd aad everyone in my school just like

you know what i' meaning at

and this was in fory first launched this is one facebook first launched

right

and

m

yeah i mean like

in high school in freshman year like i had like a cousin that went to school with me and

i made a fake account of like this like scary white guy

it was like bald

that i put a the profile picture so i'd made him look like a skinhead or whatever

and i added them he was like my cousin so he's airboardever and

i added him and i said that i was

i was transferring into the school in that

i have an issue with muslims or what like just some shit like that like just a scare moever and

it got out of the hass and like i first up to it but

that's the radicalization pipeline to be a days vault

near nasi

thy like we just prove

prove your in cell origins of doing fit

of creating sock puppet

white nationalists to

scarre i don't i don't know why i just confess i don't know why i just conf but

god hes i

but you're on for you that's on for you i mean i told him like a day later that it was me so i didn't make i didn't have it go on too long but that was a gooinit started think you know but

but yeah i mean all i ever did was troll that's all i ever did but

i mean n

well trol and still like affectively like that's that was why you got such a bigger ssponse you know

because it was a good troll

it's not even a the best trolls are telling the truth that's what i always say that's that's telling the truth

is the greatest stroll i felt twittered in me

i was strolling almost the whole time on twitter but i was also invested in it

does that make sense

like everything i was doing was to

provoke people but also because

h i felt like i was at war and i have to win the troll war

you know what i mean

that make sense ouse

yeah no that was kind of a mindset that was uh

that's a big part of like the two thousands to like late two thousand and ten internet

was this idea of like

you know like cyber activism as being like you know we're like

freelance intelligence agents like

for the people yeah and i was striking the

another thing i did web sites are every day

was prankal

every business every hotel every estay

i would

yeah sometimes even when i was alone just with no one there just for my own

sake i just

frank called a shit out of like everyone

all the time

i would pray call relatives i would pray call

distant relatives everyone ou would prin call everything

um

had grown up

and i feel you i was a bit of a

a bit of a troul myself i didn't do any oing in a

get up to that much stuff

but

n know i was like

it was scary with me because i was like fanatical about it it wasn't even a

it's like a

i i liked it it was almost like i was a i was a demon or something you know

like the video of your video about a dragon war

yeah you saw that that was

that was that was i liked that a lot that was reminded me of like myself

i

he's like a kid and stuff like that

like dragon war and like that's like so much like a great metaphor for what the internet's like

i thought that whole story

is it's like the unintended consequences you know

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so let me tell you what there's the non lok collective i just found out

made a tweet thread responding to me because i was defending china

on the sinnos been of vietnamese war i was saying vietnam

was acting like a little bully

because they had soviet backing

china was isolated from the whole

a socialist block

and there is territorial disputes and vietnam was having a being aggressive toward cambodia

so china invaded vietnam right or whatever they went to war

they're like no whate ok we'regardless

american and the wrong by the way they're completely biased and wrong but i don't want to draw too much attention to it

because i don't want to stoke division between vietnam and china like what's the point of doing that right

ne of my business is an american but the whole point

was that everyone was chacking attacking chen

way who was to eat

and it's like all these american m ls were trying to check chen way wa

a chinese public figure

in a time of u s encirclement of china like where do you get the authority to check him you dumb fucks

why because you call yourself an m l that gives you the authority to check someone

who's speaking

as a chinese person from a marxist linist country just because you call yourself an m l don't give you authority over people who live in marxist lininist states

don't ass

you know what i mean

they were like trying to check him like oh we're not it's a dude you're not part of the same thing as him he lives in a he's actually a chinese person

public figure

it's just an etiology for you that's actually about his real life and country

you know what i mean

they're fucking american universalist neo cons

with a coat of red paint

you know

i don't give a fuck about the so called non law collective i wrote a substack in response

if i keep getting shitf for it i'm going to just release the substt

i wrote it last night

in response to them

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i don't know have to market

my i was a little bit

too hard

i just the like a little

well

this legal

too high up i could

i don't be ill notice

they don't know

what sh i do for my celebration is going around

no i'm not like

wry and i can't do all

feel like i should go like the humble route you know when i went

that people already hate me

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god is good all the time and all the time

he's good

a guys i not been saying bingo all night tonight i notb been line

i' not been cheating

but this time i want to humbly say and apologize

abslutely this time check my card check my card right now run me my money run me my money you can't say it's a possible this time i did the map is bingo this time

yeah i go check my car

it is bingo this time yeah

no funny business this time none

none of it ek this out check this out

check this out

three and eight

what you mean firll legal you know that's your card the gals legal look i switched it because twenty three was too hahrdh

so you can do the you can do the loopy

it was too high so like i just switched it you know

i just switched it so we good

i'm trying to get you good doll a

o part

m

o but oh no

good on eday

i'm never playing bingo again

you

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braw

this is why this is literally twitter to me that's why eight

the mob

it's why i hate the mob

is the bunch of satanic

comue bags

i w't be back i that's me on'm twitter

that's me on twitter

the fuck is this i'm in to so delightedmy wit make it the sad the want s me don't want to take it there i boys man so if you guys watched last week's video which you should have man we don't got no tyrones on the channel

but there's one i wanted to watch we didn't get to watch it

and i vetted it

that's okay

how many

that it on

wero

oky here we go

done

go

i don't have wi fi

sorry about that

i don't care about a being the baping isn't funny even once i

oh god

ah

i cann't figure out

i gotta figure out who i got a band from my community

um

so one's in a chat if you found ethan klein's vap nation funny

when it came out did you laugh at that and find it funny because i'll just i want to know who i got to ban

no i just don't have wi fi

takeen it outside n

my mom took me off the wifi i don't know the password

ines a but

do i do i

yeah

forre just trying to return it

so

you're reckon u so basically i got

our

i think should get a stne yes

i got this fucking nice has fath he'll recognize me right off the bat if i don't wear with

w are you

true

blong make it even better like he be like damn he's just dripping

a

so basically i got banned from the place and i'm trying to go under cover so

sha go with the black wig

or the bond with

bondway

you don't think you'll recognize me

you know what i want you guys to pick up mah

yeah hear

you guys pick out

help me i'm get these two and give me some other stuff you guys aren't paid actors right

exact kinds of money on that

shoe palace

literally for just trying to return an empty box

are and the pip came o game over appreciate you guys appreciate i was really just looking to spend like twenty bucks buto a job like a hunered you know guys i usually don't tak things personally but when you do a your mom joke on me like you know this is what you deserve i went above and beyond just the trolls men just because he said there

all i know is i'm fighting for my pride my country's pride my subscriber's pride really fight for the world's pride right so well any for the do let's go get this neme you the double g put somether book the book is you pt me to the put yous up if you yout me y i

you can i please get this on a size thirteen please get this on the size thirteen i'm trying tom out size thirteen got wal can i shop here waly can i do my business and here goet to su you know you g i lily i shall measure if i can get a size thirteen yesterday slapped it across the room like you go check and see i youve got these

my going to mom i mak out power i'll give him that like if he hit me i would have been knocked out i would have been gone ok yeah i gotn foball but he did you before that's why they go on the scars mod like i don't know if you i don't know if you recognize me or not come on can i i please me up go i well y size thirteen if you good i'm good

that want to be cool we're going to be like flight and we're going to take the cameras off all right the cameras on me right now can i go by my size thirteen no i want was he wasn't so mad but all that what did i do but was that worth

get him a shoe slapped out of my hand and him saying that he smashed my mom twice not going to go ask my mom about that like i don't knowf that even know what he did but this is the lords this is the background lord of the next video really i mean he's a good looking do like no cab like no home i mean i got my sock son still he's a good looking do young la i want him i want tyron tyro come outside serve me my size start

teen i will not leave until i get my size thirteen tyrone please serve me serve me

tyro i'm busting down for you tyro tyrone come out come out tyron look brok i'm dancing for you gys goy my size thirteen

i'm just trying to figure out why i can't buy my size thirteen any store can refuse to give you service if you're called like right now though your calle so got service not want to ask you i'm literly never going to see me again i'm col what you bro can i get a dep up don't worry about it we can not let him go tron we cal let h go let him go if you don't want i

's twenty twenty band it's twenty twenty right by our own i sorry

you' never see me again i says you said something about my mom i have to say your mom i had to get you back get your money you ran away

yes i am

what do like tak this they can use that and tak you

i got to see the original video and they we're going to watch the conclusion

because i want to know what video this is from

ho ma insor the lines for exhibit

i gott to know where this is from

where' is it from

apparently it's the day they removed it

you move it let me see i goed with you

youre

yeah they removed it

if someone can find the original video where he sy's at the store

then let me know but i can't find that video

so this so afterwards when he decided to do

was make a distract

on the manager

i'm dancing for you boom by the boom he couldn't handle the heat he gots called offs on me they're kicking me out and of course i had him back with a your mamma joe your mom i had to get you back

couple weeks past man i'm thinking the beef is over man i think were even on think nothing of it until i check my instagram and i see that this nicger follows me but not only did he make a whole new account follow me this mans going be disrespectful and put in his bio

me and all my homeles hate at jdon so now i'm feeling in grossly disrespected there's no disguise i can wear that can get him back there's no your mama joke i can say that can get him back the only way i can get him back is making a dischrack on him i'm going to have to get my alter ego shitty pamper and i'm going to have to drop the hottest track of twenty twenty and i can already hear you guys man is it really worre drging three hours just to sing a distrack to ad that sort of your moma joke at you without a shadow of doubt i could honestly say

yes

yes it is worth it so m and wouldout anedy further do

let's get this n

office can you can you d m it to me

i need to em it to me before we finish this

so we can get the original one mty on which

or posted in the diskword

well hurry up

hurry up

damn i didn't know this shit got to take twenty years

yeah i went to the medieval times toin

p second

o

this is it

this is the one this is what started it all

this is what stark all

this w the start of the whole beef

he tak it he take this m fell thank the

got a new copman fucking glizzy five thousand i'm a going i'm goingside sho palace i much out of return empty

cover returney shoes goyt open the ro yeah they don't fit he returneys from the yeah your boy tripping man these aup the glizzies that's it that's it no more that's it but give me a second

that's it yeah but you shouldt be off the glizzies though

do do i really look like i got time to play games ma

i mean your stores and the p i'm go tell you right now don't ever step back foot inside the store g

fut locks better anyway

mum year sove mum year sove mumar so

that's what started it all that's what started everything so this is the grand finale this is what's going to end the drama

once and for all right now if i'm going to fuck up tyron with this this track i have to look the part and there's no harder wrapper

the n b a young boy right now and right now i'm not looking like an n b a young boys stan and i'm looking like a weed right now so we're going to go on foot locker we're going to get the n b a young boy dri we're going to go get the black air forces and we're going to kill this shit

was good ya ah no i can'e brom gy

m brom gay man i'm sorry bro that as like if you want to walk through the mall and don't want to be bothered to be like oh i'm sorry i'm gay i go i cant

i'm sorry you guys go in the black air forces

i need a size thirteen

pick re

oh my bank oh sorry i'm on my in be on bushure

yeah

i'm know

sucks i got big feet but not a big met

uh do you guys like put them on for people do you like give me like the cinderella special and like put it on

no ok

i feel that energy course and throw me

but what's up with black air forces i do i have i wear black air force i love them

what's up with that

that's the only shoes i have right now

that's my go towo shoes

what's the what's the big deal

i feel like guchi man in two thousand and six all these diamonds on my neck

oh but i'm gusi man from two thousand and six

i don't know why that should go me tir as

oh we we're about to buy the shoes like i'm good you man from two thousand and six you can'

i just thought good literally the only shoes i have

our black air forces and i'm not lying to i only live i literally have one pair of shoes and their black air forces

to thousand stuk and not finished i got coud to finish

this guy'sr

i swear i vetted this sh i did not get it

ok we're moving on

thk

oh boy so we made it to the studio man we're going to meet up with j and we're going to just make a banger man we're like we're lially about to destroy tyrone

i was good jty

read to make a banger

let me get this beat sent over to

something go if i can pull in up my turf ti around talk about my mom and stuff so

got to drop a trrack

for tyrone for shu pales b

no buk and shit haamper no no shity diapers my brother

but

time

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i love it love

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go ahead do a real fast when i get on there all of this over so little

i caing sound nothing like that

all of this because he returned in an empty box

but

tie round gone let me bone calling security better leave me alone

i'm just trying to smash give me that ass go ahead and let me do it real fast fuck fk

when you kicked me out man i swear that was so hot i'm goinga cook you dinner after i mix up yo pot don't run from this pipe this is not attract me have you running back and forth like you are an athlete i'm gona show you what this thirteen inch d

y

well imagine if you own a store and this dood is doing this shit

i'm going to give you the blues you won't even have a clue shooe palis so as

yaes so trashed foot luck is better

when you get mad at me just makes me wetter

i'm just trying to smash my c shee sweater

paper forever wrong

pussy as ngg a bitch

yeah

fk

some

lucky time

iis i adit

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i don't fuck with that so you're just the batt hyron bro fucky i got the ice i got the black air force i'm the body of my nm b a uniform energy to the fullest right now nows point ho so heh maen all i got to be said left is b tyron

what city is this whever said this guy lives in michigan falk you

this is like houston or some shit right

you need' go it

like l a is like somewhere south

our cadet this is the biggest mission of our life not only did he disrespect my mamma he disrespected your mamma he disrespected everybody mamma that is part of the judeal corps are you ready are you ready let's go get this new

f right layl layof lay after right how old is this guy i don't know what i' got to be like nineteen or something

i've been tol supposed to go along with itro ro i back and i am back what a vengeance i have driven three hours to deliver this message to you you did not want to give me my size thirteen so i am back and i am back what a this track play that shit

wron do imagine work

mm

imagine someone does this to your boss

me phone call the security better leave me alone i'm trying to smash give me that ass go ahead do a real fast to wrong

she's trying so hard not to laugh but wrong

push h make a pitch t ro fog ti fag t

really not doing sit with the i but i get my size thirt this patience is like

he get

give me patience

you know like for no like i'm like dead as like i want like i get a size thirteen or something i'll give you the commission tyrone i promise and let's let's go shopping guys a tyrone what should you want me to buy i'll buy whatever show you want me to bub bro play the song again play the song again that's the reason i ca you eep talking about my mom

o bround too i'm bad tm roll call a security better leave me alone i just want to sash give me that a go ahead do a real fast talk about my mom what to do me and you i'm going show you ca stu its big as ll

the's scary he's actually big

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i'm again again we would have been cool but he said something about my mom again but this is the third time he don't need to talk about my mama though is his lady

just let me know are you doing something with my mom 'cause she won't tell me are you with my mom if you're my dad i'm cool with that

but you got to tell me ahre they just letting this happen

they're just letting it happen

you slap shoes out of my hands

you said my small you spash my mom three times give me you know what the whole mall is going to hear this bitch tm roan e by you can sing along you sing along tm i just tell

psys mage a pitch

oh good you

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oh i got

but why is my sense of humor so stupid man what the fly

a are i good

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i know that is dude

do that but instead of it just being golfers i just troub everybody because i'm aller so that's basically what we

let's watch the new one

let's watch the new one

by patrol what does this is

this is a collect call from

the marq's cousin

you when they get on the bus okay

an incarcerated individual at harris county jail you may start the conversation now

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too

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py thatorder three one four is very very important it belongs to a n so time is of essence thank you so much ca you blow a kiss real quick

to make sure it tastes better cable a kiss to make sure it tastes better we to make sure that she gets all her nutrients and stuff so like she's the type of girl even if

what to read i would you

read his t shirt

why if she's using the rushroom

she doesn't make a stink you wouldt even know that she just took a massive

dou'mp in there

i

my good idea

thank you very much

thank you thank you do you want me like get your number

like ca in case you

oh fak i thought it said something else

w dude you scared me

the fok dude

says professional raw dogger i was like what the fok i thought it said something else

you havever need me to life

hold on to your food again

i don't understand you you speaking me so slowly im i going ah

number ah my phone number

we' got google translate so we can this isn't going to be all i like that accent she's got not go on in

my name is eliana

iliana that's beautiful o

that's actually a sexy name not a lie

not go lie that's a sexy name

dan

bonita bonita are you

mary

this i have

time

and we still get past

grasses

the marcus

the marcus

tion meet you nice to meet you took t next time

a

bye

famro

eight

m w's on the check

suspend them ws in the track

the rooms a smaller but to see tonight

excuse me sir are you a pilot i have a question bec cause this is my first time flying ah i was just wondering like where's the ma hig club at like i didn't see option on the website you find it in the very ba is it in the cockpit will you is that where the party is

i have a theory guys

is the mil high club even possible anymore

i don't think it's possible in two thousand and twenty one

a mile high club only and a private jet whatever

but

know what i mean

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am

dam

imagine being able to hook up with a flight attendant

midflight

ten

bit dot com

big big bitch dot com

where the mansion over in the hills here in atlanta jump all through

shit like right now are you hung like a horse

yeah i'm a lot we're looking for micro ones right now

as microweek

when can i debate communism with you next stream

it's literally not hard to debate me you just have to go on comm on show requests

and say i'm here to debate

all you have to do in the discord is go on our fucking discord go on come on so request

and say i'm here to debate

hoho is it not

i think i'll be able to hook up with a flight attendantt to my fifth and twentieth flight

but

share man w you been october

ten ships a

you fucking catherin

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you're the minute

side

i'm just a friendly neighborhood minute

almost a depot at of school

yeah we me him were like clothes

you can call the police

i can

no but this bucklies not a month

like it was asian prime month then you would have to let us slide oh sor sir you have to stop sorry sir

sir hee i have air pod pros in

here's ol air pods i my back on you come jail and bm you do what what what

we what woa wll no problemjt that no we get in trouble

you're in trouble i felt so bad

the folk are you're doing

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good man come here some be frid was good bros good way co shit can i get to hit it depends what are you going to do i just want to hit n

listen if you didn't have the sign i would look at it d bro tjust that what flavors is mental

oh his mentor

so that the worst one out all of them

got you there

the si no smokeer no bapin you takn see my here

young

i don't thine i'm curious you ont thing we smoke is that andre dollar packf it's not that then we don't smoke it

it i'm not laughing i'm not laughing yeah i'm not going to i'm not going take it from you i'm not going to confiscate it let me just see it real qk

just say

this is going to be the end of you what' your name

time

since we smoke you

okay okay

ca

you see i'll die with you

i'm dying with you you break that vap right now

sending you one hundred dollars

sart off your lif i do

read

that

likeke it for free don't on the ground

stop on it get the first step fuck and pump this

i

gyess im was do

whatever this

rules for

the holl monitor meding in here

we like

rerunt it out for this time

we do this for you all you know

no he's froming us

you're not the main character we

and right now i'm not feeling safe

like you girls can stay but

proaby gota go you know we don't want

one

to be s there's the ds a meeting fs

are so mr sanat

this was's going on on campus this right here

this is the green zone everybody's happy these are the vaper

see butot a smoke

we need to get this area int

w we are one school

if we come together as one we'll be fine what do you y think w you things right in the situation

who you

what do you think should happen

what class

ater all i'm majored in pharmacy and i know how to do

you imagine being bothered like this

it's

all the parkies in the adterroll like fucking

i'm not being satahan

future a little baby those a my

my do smack back into it they di my my ok ok ok should we like circumscise it though

i'm sured we go on circumcb

no is no protection no protect were raw doging it all day everyday

that's the game ply

ah that'll do it

bra come on

hold on

ah

stop

stop chill chill guys chill so the fuck up

you

i got to endstream

it's fucking past the five hour market it's one thirty i got to go work out

two

oh

to you guys

the four

i only have two hundred ninety people to raid with what

everone left

guys