Infrared vs. Asatar Bair: Is Western Leftism Communist?

2022-05-14
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who i call a reactionary socialist i
don't know what he calls himself i i
guess we're gonna find out look he's
here now
uh
so welcome to my guest here
hayes uh we're gonna have a debate
tonight about a variety of different
topics uh i see this last one hour we
haven't communicated too much about the
dimensions of this beforehand that's
never great but here we are
and since we don't know each other very
well i'd like to start by just asking a
couple of questions about your politics
because i i find it hard to parse
just from the you know look that i've
taken at some of your stuff
do you mind if i ask you do you do you
support china do you see china as an
imperialist power no
no what
it's not an imperialist power
okay fair enough
do you see it as a socialist country yes
all right that's a good start
we're in agreement on that point then
what about the ussr is that a a country
in history and legacy that you do you
uphold do you find yourself closer to
the position of like stalin killed 100
million people or stalin did not i'm a
stalinist 100 stalinist
all right well i see some overlap there
as well
um
you know over the last summer i sort of
became known as this right dr stalin um
and and what about when it comes to more
uh social issues i i notice on your sub
stack you have a kind of
rejection of woke culture um but i'm
having a hard time understanding what
that means um do you support for example
say a woman's right to choose
for abortion
yeah i think this is a poorly
constructed question a woman's right to
choose unconditionally is does not exist
anywhere in the world uh maybe sweden is
an ex exception even in liberal europe
there's not an unconditional right to
choose at any stage of the pregnancy
broadly speaking i'm not against
abortion uh but
i reject this dichotomy between
completely unrestricted abortion even
eight months in
and
completely banning it entirely
okay so you'd favor some restrictions is
that right
uh i personally i think that's mainly
women's business to sort amongst
themselves uh the women's who are
against abortion really are not being
given fair representation because they
are a big contingent of women who are
against abortion uh i personally
i i would not know when to restrict it
but i just
realized that it's normal for most
countries to have some restrictions on
when you can get an abortion
yeah i mean it it seems to me a little
bit problematic when you start saying um
well you explain yourself right like we
don't we don't typically have that you
know like if we if we take the position
that abortion is healthcare for example
you know you don't typically say like
why do you want a healthcare procedure
right like you know
but if you're putting restrictions on it
then all of a sudden you do have to
explain right because they're like okay
communist states that have no
restrictions
well i mean we we're not talking about
other states we're talking about what
yeah i'm a communist though so i
i i don't agree that communist states
are oppressing women by restricting
abortion uh to some extent
okay
well that's fair um
what about you know what about something
like gay rights i mean like when you
when you go out of your way to reject
woke culture and people might think
well maybe you just sort of hate gays i
mean is that the is that the case or how
would you describe your your politics
when it comes to lbg l
lgbtq rights and so forth
uh i i don't hate lgbt people but i
recognize the interest group i'm against
the interest group called the lgbt
movement
yeah it's completely anti-communist has
historically always served an
anti-communist role serves the
establishment is in bed with the ngos
the democratic party and the agenda of
the ruling class they're the ones who
are establishing it as an interest group
i do think people should have rights to
privacy and be left alone because of
their sexuality and so on and so on
however i don't agree that there should
be a alignment between a communist
movement and a so-called lgbt movement
you know given the amount of exclusion
of you know
groups like for example gays and
lesbians in in so many different social
movements right um for example
well i mean you know you you
any any pretty much anything you could
name right is exclusionary towards gays
except for like the gay rights movement
itself i disagree but like
there's gay people in there
have long been excluded from certain
occupations for example right which ones
really you're not you're unaware of that
today which which ones are lg gay people
excluded from
the the question is given that the
legacy of exclusion if you don't if
you're not inclusive are you being
exclusionary right
occupations are
uh
exclusive only to straight people in
america today
yeah
well you could have do you have to do
your own homework on that
but that is very cool
right i mean like
really okay all right
that's what you're implying you can't
name any so i guess
there are no do you think there were 50
years ago
probably
not
what might be something you should look
into um but
you know given that there is a clearly
is a legacy of exclusion right um
the question is does that
do our gays and lesbian might they see
that didn't you say you're you're known
as dr stalin
right
are we cutting off a contingency here
when when really i think we should be
trying to like embrace all parts of the
working class right
is
christian and
uh conservative and they have gay people
in the republican party
they have a few
right
it and also didn't you say that doctors
are widely favored i mean does that
matter hold on didn't you say your
doctor
widely favored by lgbtq folks
sorry is it is the party widely favored
by lgbtq it's starting to i don't know
it's starting to
[Laughter]
maybe among the most privileged segment
uh
and it's only a matter i mean
there's blair white now so it's only a
matter of time there's even transgender
conservatives now so anyway uh my
question to you is you say your name was
dr stalin something like this you claim
i'm a reactionary socialist when my
views on this matter are more liberal
than stalin's stalin views homosexuality
as a bourgeois degeneracy and decadence
and when a western lgbt gay man from
britain wrote to stalin on the
persecution of homosexuals within the
ussr stalin privately scoffed at the man
and called him a degenerate
uh
is stalin a fascist reactionary
comparing the 1920s and 30s to today
what does the passage of time have to do
with it time has passed so
stalin viewed it as a fundamental
perversion of bourgeois society
i don't think that's true but even even
so what is it but they wrote as much it
was exclusively written by
the uh stalinist intellectuals and
leader communist leaders of the ussr
throughout the entirety of the ussr's
existence almost except
uh maybe toward the tail end under
gorbachev but this was always the view
of communists in the ussr which you have
claimed as always
and all the great revolutionaries share
is that these are highly pragmatic
practical people right and they all
share the same goal which is global
proletarian revolution right and i think
that that's a goal
we share as well right i mean that would
be a point of commonality between us am
i right
it depends on what you mean for sure
oh it well that's that's good right it
depends on what i mean by global
production
to me let's well let's let's see this is
a good question to explore right
to me it means well first you would have
a global dictatorship of the proletariat
right i mean you know you have to yeah
this really runs the world
there's no framework you say no to this
there is no framework within marxism
leninism
or a global proletarian dictatorship so
thus far all the examples of proletarian
dictatorship have been confined to one
country and the even in the
interrelations between different
proletarian dictatorships such as the
ussr and china could not come to a
common global framework for a
proletarian dictatorship so this sounds
the trotskyist to me that you're saying
global pro how how would you have a
global one
we'll see this is a good question right
but you know you you're talking about
nations jockeying over things like
borders and policies and whatever
because we're coming out of a long
history of the nation state where
nations are these boundary you know they
exist in
you know a uh china and the ussr were
not nation states they still could not
come to a common framework for a
proletarian global dictatorship
what we're talking about is these
students these nations are jockeying
with one another
china has several nationalities the ussr
had several nationalities within it they
were civilization states not nation
states
i don't know how that's salient as a
distinction but you know the the the
point is it's everyone you cannot
establish an artificial unity of peoples
on the basis of ideology there are
historical uh roots to the extent to
which civilizations are united which
cannot be leapfrogged or bypassed
through some kind of political framework
now eventually supposedly the idea is
that borders will eventually disappear
in communism and that there will be no
different states as such as the state
that subtle wither away but that's not
the proletarian dictatorship the
proletarian dictatorship confines itself
to the
existence in which the state is
preserved so how can you talk about a
global state it makes no sense
i don't think global state would
necessarily be the first military
dictatorship only existed so far as the
state was weaponized by the proletariat
what does local sources system actually
look like how does that move forward
right imagine that happening in not just
one country or maybe a small handful of
countries but happening globally i mean
this is a very traditional point of
thought in marxism right how might
global socialism take root can it happen
in one country but the problem are we
talking about a global movement sure the
um the problem am i right well excuse me
dr trotsky the problem is that what
you're talking about
is a global proletarian dictatorship the
proletarian dictatorship necessarily
implies the estate and the whole meaning
and purport of socialism in one country
is that states have civilizational and
national roots they're not based on
ideologies they're based on a specific
relationship between a historically
constituted people
and
an organ of class dictatorship so no you
cannot have a global proletarian
dictatorship
and when you talk about this global
revolution happening simultaneously it's
been disproven by history that is not
the path in which the victory of global
communism
will be established a china soviet union
all of the successful communists
you would say it's disproved
of course that's a little bit that's a
little bit like saying communism has
been disproved because it hasn't
happened yet
there is no we don't actually
necessarily dictates that it would be
extremely improbable for a communist
revolution to happen simultaneously
across the entire globe
the basic laws
let's say we're focused on
how do we achieve that
proletarian revolution in the united
states and what does it look like
right
you establish a party of a premier party
of the american working class
first
okay
what's that look like
it doesn't look like the american left
that we have now which confines itself
to an acute minority of social parasites
social parasites see you know when you
use language like that it really makes
me think of things like
judeo-bolshevism or okay can i tell you
what
what did the jew
marx who was a jew
are you deny that marx was a jew
well what i'm saying is when you use
language like that it's it really
gives me the uh
so
here's here's what mark said uh marx
apparently who's the next adolf hitler
he said the great mass of so-called
higher grade workers such as state
officials military people artists
doctors priests judges lawyers and you
bracket those down into categories that
only exist in today like computer
engineers and all that other kind of
shit hipsters or whatever same shit
right some of whom are not only not
productive but a sense in essence
destructive but to know how to
appropriate to themselves a very great
part of the material wealth partly
through the sale of their immaterial
commodities that's the basic structure
of parasitism
marx is describing these people as
parasites he literally calls them people
partaking in the consumption
parasites on the actual producers that's
what marx calls them and that is the
class basis of the current left that is
the only meaningful mass that the
american left today has actually managed
to gain a foothold in and and reach out
to so for you saying this reminds you of
nazi rhetoric are you accusing marx of
nazism because he more or less said the
same thing
it is nazi rhetoric sure yeah and marx
you know
parasites he's talking about a very
particular class and that's not what he
gave a plethora of classes defined by
the sale of immaterial commodities
well no these are these are people sorry
excuse me doctor
these are his words ad verbatim ad
verbatim i'm quoting it to you
did you know that you can quote someone
and still get them wrong okay explain
the confidence you know that that's
possible
i i will allow the floor to explain the
context
marx is very focused on surplus labor
right and you know he considers a worker
to be productive if their work directly
produces surplus value right
now some workers work does not directly
produce surplus value let's take a
manager for example right managers mark
says managers are semi-productive and
semi-unproductive right a lot of
managers are just unproductive all they
do is make sure you don't take too long
of a bathroom break right that's not
adding anything to the surplus value and
hence that worker is unproductive right
why did mark's going there's lots of
productive workers right let's say
somebody works in advertising right
they're not directly producing a product
but they're indirectly assisting with
the realization of commodities right
so you know to to to to say that there
are parasites in the same sense that you
would say oh that the nazis would say oh
well the judeo-bolshevik uh you know
that's a parasite
that is
well it's the same kind of language man
you know like when you when you
and particularly
you know we started off having a point
of contention because you have a post
that says
these people are not the same species
right well before we get started
about
how the intellectuals of russia at the
time thought that they were the golden
uh class of the nation but actually they
are the shit of the nation that's what
lenin said
about the intelligentsia
call in the shit of the nation
in order to defend yourself because i
don't see the connection
i am saying you are accusing me of using
nazi language uh because i called people
parasites marx said the same thing lana
you said that they were part of a
different species because of their dyed
heritage you want to talk about the chaz
degeneres
the what the chas degenerates
what what does that refer to i don't
understand that the people that i um am
throwing it out there questioning
whether they are of our species anymore
okay chas
is that referred to those are the people
who are at chaz who wins two black
teenagers
and we're bragging about it on twitter
yeah so how does it help to question
people's humanity
um you know let's say that they're
activists they're trying to do something
that it might be even broadly supporting
teenagers activism right
well i didn't notice you making that
sort of critique your critiques seem to
be based purely on their appearance do
those people look
uh human to you
yes
i think they've lost everything
i disagree i think they've lost every
semblance of humanity
[Laughter]
well
okay let's say that you think that right
but you see how that would be bad optics
to go on a public place like twitter and
then say that right i
have you noticed that many of your
communist colleagues
are openly calling you a nazi most
communists do not have that problem
sorry those aren't the problems
like i wonder why people don't have that
problem maybe it's because they don't
toe the line on things that look
extremely racist extremely misogynist
extremely transphobic
why do that i mean where's the upside
how does it help organize workers
towards a u.s proletarian revolution
let's say
uh draw miles dead the first step
draw a line that's what i'm doing
drawing a line yeah but
as communist we can distinguish
ourselves from these lowly uh scum
social scum whose humanity is not
questionable uh as marx called him the
social scum of our society uh the dregs
this uh people i think angles
who praise the workers
of france for putting up signs that
we're gonna shoot the thieves because
they didn't want anything to do with
this social scum degenerate class of
people who are the enemy of the
proletariat enemy of the working class
according to all historical communist
figures
no i mean that sounds like nazi stuff
right there you know nazis are the ones
who banned stuff like this
frederick engels was a nazi
i think i think hayes might be the nazi
because you know you you're not doing a
good job defending yourself right
remember we're trying to do something
tactically right the question is for the
capital city you called me a nazi for
repeating what my communist
uh authors have said the people i draw
inspiration from that his writings i'm
trying to remain faithful to you accuse
me of being an obviously the same thing
they said from the past you might end up
saying the exact opposite of what they
meant why you know why because it became
trending because of corporate because
the corporate media made it trendy to
say the opposite
lenin stalin these people are not trying
to
are not trying to persecute vulnerable
minorities they're trying to create a
society that works for everyone right to
be honest enough to do that to be honest
i think marx
wanted to do more than just persecute
the social scum that they mentioned
because
yeah i really doubt that i think they
thought saw the revolution as an
extremely violent process
and if you saw the things that they said
early on i mean it would i'm even
against some of that stuff right but
let's not get off on this idea that marx
and engels were peace love hippies we
said oh we love everyone they weren't
they were fighters first and foremost
for the proletarian class
and beyond the proletarian class the
broad strata of the people as a whole
meaning the democratic petty bourgeoisie
of the countryside as lenin described it
in the civil war in france
sorry as marx described it in the civil
war and france and as lenin elaborated
it with his notion of the unity of the
workers and the peasants nowhere within
this formula do we have the parasite
professional managerials or the lump in
social scum
you know professional managerial class
is not really a marxist construction now
is it right because so what do you call
the higher grade workers who are in
essence destructive
and who are parasites on the actual
producers and who sell immaterial
commodities because that's how i define
it that's marx's language
clearly referring to a separate strata
if you want to know how communists have
historically referred to this group like
lenin and so on they called them the
upper layers of the petty bourgeoisie or
the middle class they usually call them
urban petty bourgeoisie and that's what
we're dealing with for example marx
talked about
in regards to the social democratic
movement at the time
that
the democratic petty which is what he
called them and everywhere
pressed and preached to the proletariat
general unity and reconciliation extend
the hand of friendship and seek to find
a great opposition party they seek to
ensnare the workers in a party
organization in which the general social
democratic phases prevail while their
particular interests are kept hidden
behind in which for the sake of
preserving the peace the specific
demands of the proletariat may not be
presented sounds like today's dsa sounds
like every single so-called communist
left-wing organization we have in the
united states today
you know there are a lot of weak
communist parties out there there are a
lot of weak left parties which ones are
we need to strengthen
we need strength right how does the
working class get to strength right well
you take the right ideological line and
the right ideological line is one that
leads to unity
not fracturing right
so you know when i see somebody who has
a sub stack but every
like all three of the articles on there
are basically focused on attacking other
communists
and i question like how does that lead
to unity right and especially when i
don't see such a strong ideology that i
say oh yes this is going to unite
everyone right in fact what i see is a
pretty weak ideology to the extent that
i can parse it i see something that's
pretty divisive
i think if you if you're peeling off big
sections of the working class if you're
saying look you know we're not friends
of gays right we're not friends of trans
people we're not friends of women
particularly right we we reject woke-ism
ontologically what you're saying is
nonsense 50 of humankind is woman
what do you mean against women as if a
community of men is the default no 50 of
all human beings are women so the fact
that you're trying to establish women
it's like the fact that you're trying to
establish the fact that you're trying to
establish women as some kind of separate
interest group what does this like
forcibly reject vocalism
what does that mean women women most
women are not woke they don't buy into
localism stop speaking for most women
but i'll i'll respond to you
they don't want to be trapped in a
patriarchal traditional family structure
i mean usually you know there's a dog i
think many women like long i think
somebody says i believe in conservative
values
what is that a dog whistle for right
they believe in a traditional family
structure that enslaves women i'm sure
most women would rather be in a poly
school with you but anyway i'll respond
to what you said based on lenin's quote
he said unity is a great thing in a
great slogan but what the workers cause
needs is the unity of marxists not unity
between marxists and the opponents and
disorders of marxism i consider the
american left the people that i've
targeted in my substance the opponents
and disorders of marxism
okay but you know in order to to say
somebody's distorting it you need to
have a pretty good articulation of it
yourself right i mean demonstrated
i love my knowledge of marxism
demonstrate it now that's what we're
here for
well you know i look at what's in print
i'm a bit of a reader you know
that's why that's my background i'm not
going to watch a bunch of debate streams
i'm not going to watch a bunch of
twitter you read my substitute don't
tell us why i'm i didn't read your
subject yeah
and it was pretty hard to make sense of
but i i surely did not see in there
here's what is imperialism i did not see
in there here's what socialism is i did
not see in here here's the countries
which i think are on the way
imperialism the high stage why should i
reprint what lenin said he already wrote
it
i was writing about specific things
instead you say something else you say
that trump is a more effective
anti-imperialist than all of these
bail what's that term a western white
leftist absolutely true i stand by that
trump was far far more of an
anti-imperialist and all the buys wolf
frauds combined in the history of the
american left since the counter college
so all of these some combined
control is far more effective
or is that a support of trump
you can make of it whatever the fuck you
want either that's a uh
in uh
condemnation
and incrimination of the buys wall or
it's somehow praising trump i don't
really care how you interpret it i'm not
scared to be associated with trump eye
views on trump are clear as they uh okay
well tell me about them is trump an
anti-imperialist then
not ideologically but in practice he was
far more of an anti-imperialist than all
the biswell scum combined
well see i just don't understand this
because saying more or less i mean
you're basically saying the white
leftists have zero impact right i mean
that's that's kind of the point here so
like yes absolutely like yes thank god
you made it
in a yes direction toward
anti-imperialism in your view zero
impact on imperialism zero actually i
take that back left this exercise the
role of being the cultural vanguard of
american imperialism
well you know it seems like the cultural
vanguard of american imperialism would
actually be the u.s mainstream media
okay let me ask you a question
what do lgbt rights in zimbabwe under
mugabe mean
are you using uh zimbabwe as a proxy for
social estate by any chance
i think so why not
well
party it was ruled by a socialist party
maybe the state isn't socialist but
mugabe is a socialist
interesting you know zimbabwe is one of
the few places in africa that's done any
land reform whatsoever but you know you
you wonder is that is that land reform
socialist in background you know because
there are non-socialist land reforms
like like like in afghanistan for
example
this was also done by
it's precisely the land reform that is
the basis of any socialist
socialist within power is land reform
oh i agree with you completely you've
got to do land reform because the basis
here is a mao distribution of land that
comes out of the theft of land from
imperialism or settlers or what have you
right or enclosures in the case of
europe
so after the land is is a primary kind
of moment and yeah it has to be undone
right but how should it be undone right
then what happens right
what do we actually see so mugabe uh he
should have been more conciliatory
toward the uh
the landowning class of zimbabwe at the
expense of the black majority that's
what you're saying
no not at all
made it like a bunch of uh hippie
communes zimbabwe instead
no i'm not a big fan of that i i'm i'm
i'm a supporter of like the
collectivization of land you know in the
in the stalinist and and maoist kind of
model you know because we you have to
raise the productivity of land right you
have an under investment in in uh in
agriculture in a lot of these places
right and a lot of that has to do with
small plots there's not a lot of
agricultural capital before any of those
collectivizations happened whether
that's going to take the form of
stalinist collectivization or mouse
greatly forward
establishment of the people's communes
you had a general land reform that was
not
a form of collectivization
yeah that's true right you you broke the
landlord class and appropriated their
land yeah
so maybe that's phase one right the
question is
what happens next right so why why bring
this up
what's the point well i think we're
getting a little bit of field i think
the original question was
how does you know
uh going kind of out of your way to
say you know you're not a big fan of uh
gays trans folks
when did i say that well
you forcefully reject wokism i mean this
these are the groups which are out there
advocating for these kinds of positions
if you reject it i mean it's a little
confusing because i'm like what is your
actual position that's why i'm asking
questions here but if you reject that
what's the interview or a debate
is this an interview or a debate what
what what positions do they put forward
well i i can't have a debate until i
know the position you know
maybe i have nothing against gays or
lgbt i reject lgbt as a separate
interest i reject that
okay
now many people who are uh
falling under that category rejected as
well
not all gay people for example not all
lesbians for example want to be not even
all transgenders for example want to be
associated with these psychotic people
who say my pronouns are shish
juba
and neo pronouns make no sense that
they're not one of the two genders
there's five 25 different genders sorry
most lgbt people probably don't agree
with
that well i mean you know the word
that's traditionally used for this in in
marxism is tailism right i mean you're
taking the most
elements
of of the working class and saying
that's what we're going to go with
that's the that's the excellent
you're moving things towards a position
that that is very similar to very close
to those who say these people should not
have rights at all right i mean that's
where the country is going right i mean
you know if you
don't take it aside
and you you're basically supporting the
way things are going more or less
i mean like we're at a moment where the
supreme court is is banning abortion
right and throwing down a whole mass of
law supreme court's not understanding
anything
progressive things right like i mean i
don't know maybe you're not a fan of of
gay marriage for example right the
supreme supreme court supreme court
isn't banning anything
supreme court is not meaning anything
you're wrong about you sort of using
republican language in that yeah
republicans would say we're not banning
it we're just turning it over to states
right but everyone knows what's going to
happen in the states right so i'm just
wondering like if you don't have a
position popular
and say that it doesn't matter
that's exactly like you can't make your
position popular
because you want to write off the
flyover states and all those people as
irredeemable so you have to use the
brute force of federal legislation uh to
enforce it on that you can't win those
those people over there are lost cause
only the coastal elites who are
enlightened
uh are redeemable in the eyes of uh
buyers
position to me i'm not taking a democrat
position i'm not talking about flyover
states here
i'm talking about
discursively right that's part what we
say is can you tell me what a tendency
in american politics wants to say lgbt
should have no rights
look what we say is part of our strategy
and our strategy needs to be going
towards a certain goal right and the
goal i think i think we're both on the
same page here right the goal is
workers seize power am i right
okay
okay
well so then the question is
is the stuff that we're saying and doing
in line with that goal or is it clashing
with that goal right i think it's in
line i think if you're going against
these things then it's very hard to it
doesn't you don't look like you're on
the left at all right it looks like
you're i don't want you're making
honestly failure it's unpopular it's a
failure it failed to accomplish anything
why would i want to look like a bunch of
losers i don't want to look like the
jazz people in that mug shop
oh i i think i picked that up from your
tweet you don't want to look uh subhuman
as you put it right some human physique
no subhuman still implies a type of
human i think these people are
post-human
post-human type of things okay
and they may like sound like i don't
know if they lay eggs
the question is
if if you're going to be re if you're
going to be rejecting
pretty big segments of the of the
american working class how does that
feel how's that
big
give me that as a percentage estimate
estimate the percentage big because i
think those type of people are no more
than
one percent and actually probably zero
percent because they don't fall under
the category of working class anyway
their lump and degenerate scum but how
are these a big portion of the
population in any capacity whatsoever
they are allowed minority on social
media and on twitter everywhere else
they have no voice no representation and
no relevance whatsoever and because i
don't pander to these social parasites
come you accuse me of being a
reactionary and a talent i want you to
justify your reasoning behind that go
ahead sir
i think that when you when you go out of
your way to attack gay people right then
you alienate not only gays but a large
segment of people who
are friends with gays right who have
never attacked choices i didn't do that
stalin's importance
don't blame me for what stalin did i
didn't attack gays at all stalin
you're going against your own you're
shooting yourself in the foot basically
right
and you could say oh well they're
they're unimportant and and you know
they're a kind of convenient whipping
boy that i can use because they look
unusual you know but again are you
saying i'm attacking gays because
minority then we can safely oppress them
to score political people the people in
the chat shop the people in the chat
the people in the chat shop are you who
the fuck says that hayes
who's nazis say that shit that's who
says that you're getting a little angry
doctor yes
dr trotsky i don't have soda simmer down
anyway you're saying that the people in
the chas mug shot are that's what the
gays are that represents gay people
i'm saying that when you attack
activists who have put themselves oh so
that's the protected class the protected
minority is the ideological activist of
the left
isn't it isn't that are you self-serving
isn't that a little bit self-serving
where you're going to go ahead and try
and say that oh the people who are
oppressed just so happen to be the
people who are discursively the
ideological activist vanguards trying to
push this agenda you have turned the
lumpin intelligencia into the subject of
class warfare instead of the proletariat
it's so fucking self-serving you're
basically saying people who think like i
do and have the same ideas i have in my
head are the true revolutionary class
whereas the working class because they
don't have the same ideas the
enlightened ideas i have in my head
those are a bunch of scum and fuck them
but don't attack the protected class the
the lump in intelligentsia chaz who
lends two black teenagers that's a
sacred cow you should not hear those
people but you can you can you can
accuse and defame the americans
as a basket of deplorables and you can
call them a reactionary scum and
whatever but i can't attack this acute
minority of social parasites interesting
i don't actually use terms like scum i
don't i don't attack people politically
correct i don't see that as commensurate
with uh with communist ideology in the
slightest that's very important
not even the bourgeoisie
i think i think the bourgeoisie should
be ended right i think it ended as a
class i think they're not they're not
they're not less than human you know
whatever can i can i give you a
quotation from chairman mao tong
okay you think this is gonna help your
case huh he said communism is not love
communism is the hammer we use to
destroy the class enemy smash the glass
enemy that's what he said
i love that quote yeah that's a great
quote but what do you think it means
but it doesn't uh it doesn't align well
with your hippie california bullshit now
does it oh no it aligns perfectly with
it what do you think it means
i think it means communism is the weapon
the proletariat uses to
brush
and break into smithereens
a class enemy none of this language
although i won't call them i will call
them scum the people who rule us are
parasite scum the left is made up of
parasite lump and scum and they are
enemies of the working
class i think it's just very dangerous
and poor for a communist to say
these this group of leftists is scum in
the same way right bourgeoisie is no
they think the booze worse the bouzoni
you don't think that the the people with
purple hair or whatever are the ones who
are
you know sucking up the surplus value do
you is that what you think is happening
here they are the ideological
the ones who are committing imperialism
hold on i cannot you seem to be confused
about materialism as marxist we cannot
ascribe moral agency to material
relations of production all we can do is
condemn and attack their rep
superstructural representatives as far
as the elimination of the bouzouzi as a
material class and i'm not talking about
the current superstructural
manifestation of the monopoly boosters
tied to the state but the material
element of the bourgeoisie that is
always and everywhere reproducing itself
in the countryside as lenin called them
that is a process that takes decades and
decades decades it cannot directly be
done in an activistic volunteeristic way
but meanwhile their super structural
representatives they're prostitutes we
can attack those people we can attack
the prostitutes of the bourgeoisie we
can attack the monopoly parasite uh
manifestation of the bourgeoisie in the
form of the deep state and the wall
street and city of london financial
ruling class and ruling class in general
we can attack those people but as far as
the fundamental
social relation of the extraction of
surplus value as you're talking about it
that cannot be activistically
destroyed in a volunteeristic way that
takes decades and decades of the
development of the forces of production
which is a change in the mode of
production not a change in political
relations of the superstructure
yeah i don't see how you think that's
helping your case man you know like you
know you're going onto somebody else's
ground and you're fighting there in a
place that you're weak right i mean the
same is true of like the use of the
american flag like you think that
communist you waving the american flag
do you think you're gonna be better at
waving the american flag
than you know like any before any sports
game right like in anywhere in the
united states
better than the military
you think you're gonna be better at
waving the flag than the reactionaries
that's the flag of my country i was born
in this country that's the flag of my
country i was born in that country it's
my country
you know you have no comparative
advantage there right do you think
you're going to be better at anti-wokism
than the reactionaries who that's all
they do right and you know you know how
they come off right yeah they don't they
don't they don't
they don't worry they don't they don't
think about my communist history
those reactions
those reactionaries
because they are not distorting
the meaning of marxism and communism
they're just ignorant about it they're
not the ones as they are they're not the
ones
around and making an embarrassment
they're absolutely the biggest disorders
of marxism and communism that exist no
they're not
way bigger than anyone with purple hair
or whatever that no they're the disorder
the disorder is not the disorder the
disorder is not the prageru video that
says communists are a bunch of lazy bum
degenerates the distorter is the person
who confirms what the prager you view
video is saying by identifying as a
communist while being a lazy bum
degenerate that's the disorder
what is what makes a person a lazy bum
degenerate
uh somebody who makes excuses for their
own laziness and mediocrity by trying to
use the ideas of communism and class
struggle to explain uh why despite
actually being relatively privileged in
life which most communists are they
ended up being such a fucking loser who
couldn't be successful because they
wanted to go to fucking arts and craft
school instead of be a doctor or
something isn't going to school or art
school or something being successful
like what is being said no it's not no
it's a waste of money and it's fucking
stupid
okay what's being successful
being successful is you spending your
money wisely if you have privilege if
you have capital to spend and you fuck
that up hey well you're gonna blame the
bourgeoisie because you're a fucking
dumb bum who decided to go to fucking
humanities and spend all this fucking
money in some dumbass fucking creative
school instead of doing something that's
actually going to get uh some actually
return on your investing capital
i don't know i think you know most
people are like pro
arts you know like most people enjoy
consuming the arts right like
they like musicians they like artists
they like painters and you know going to
school for that i don't know that people
see that as such a big negative as
you're making it out i don't think
people see it as a failure yeah i mean
let's say you want to know who decides
who gets to have a profession where they
make a living off of that the only
people who can make a living off of arts
are people who produce popular art in
some capacity which is like 0.1 of them
so those are the people who can make a
living off of it and you're not entitled
to that you're not entitled to be given
money for be see for example a doctor
doesn't have to be a good doctor you
just have to know how to be a doctor
that's enough right an artist who's
doing actual creative work
uh you actually have to be good at that
shit
to get a return on your fucking
investment
i mean good in the sense that you are
like recognized by the market right does
that mean you're good
if it's not going to be the market it's
going to be the internet algorithms and
clicks and if it's not going to be that
it's do you think in the soviet union
they didn't have to have artists prove
their worth by actually being like
popular among the masses yeah you had to
prove your worth no i think that's
better actually i think that's far
better you do have to prove yourself to
somebody right but for example the
market yeah
hey is the market's nominated by wealthy
capitalists right is that who we're
proving ourselves to i mean wouldn't it
be far better to prove yourself to a
committee made up of workers and
ordinary people and it would probably be
better to prove that your art is
actually popular among the masses and is
reflects the taste of the people in the
masses
there has to be some kind of connection
with the masses right but the market is
very poor
judge of that right i mean you know how
is it it's a better one it's a better
one than uh
whatever fucking bureaucracy you imagine
should do it instead like some what some
kind of like dsa committee oh we're
going to accept this art what a horrific
horrifying thing
yeah but you know if somebody buys like
one of your pieces for a million dollars
then the market has spoken right but one
rich person could do that does that make
you a good artist you're talking about
the so-called high art i'm talking about
popular art which is actually mostly
being fucking done through the internet
not done through uh
uh money laundering schemes is the art
world
well yeah right our world has is full of
problems all i'm saying is that the
market is not a very good proxy for your
connection to the map what's the what's
the market like for example this is the
market right infrared
is much more successful at spreading
these ideas than you are as reflected by
the market of youtube you have 4k
subscribers i have 16k so that market
has spoken what's wrong with but i'm
sure you wouldn't you would prefer it
that like uh someone appoints you as the
person people have to watch instead
right no i think it's great look you
know what if if you're a communist and
we share a lot of positions in common
even though i think you have a lot of
fascists i always say look good luck to
you let me see you be really successful
i want you to defend your points
i cannot be in a communist space without
allying with you let's see let's see if
that works out right how's that
let's see if my friend waving is so
popular that people can't get enough of
it yes yes okay usa usa communist usa
okay maybe that can happen
i mean weird things happen you know like
maybe that's gonna but you know what
this is where praxis comes in right this
is where praxis beats theory you can
read lenin all you want you can quote me
but unless you show me then it doesn't
really add up to very much right and if
all you do is attack other communists
i don't see that as something that's
going to win
here i've been on the internet
i i've been on the internet for one year
and i've already sewn uh big f i've
already shook things up among the
so-called online left but i want to ask
you a question how am i fascist go ahead
explain
well you you seem to be very interested
in articulating an ideology
which
pisses on marginalized groups
you don't support them just ask
what do you mean such as what have you
been listening during this entire day
usual intelligentsia are they oppressed
marginalized intelligence you call them
scum and parasites like marx called him
you use fancy language for it that's
non-marxist i would say mark's called
scum but you know you're doing the same
thing you're putting down okay
should i quote what marx and engle said
about that's fascism
okay fascism i will quote you what
engels has said about the lump and
proletariat this scum of the decaying
elements of all classes which
establishes headquarters in all the big
cities is the worst of all possible
allies
if the french workers in the course of
the revolution inscribed on their houses
death to the thieves
and even shot down many damn
they did it not out of enthusiasm for
property because they rightfully
consider it necessary to hold that band
at arm blades sounds like they're
holding those chazz zombies that laying
eggs at arm's length thank god for him
and tv
is coming out of a context where the
petty bourgeois kind of like have a huge
influence in the media right i mean
that's that's sort of true today as well
right like you know who who speaks for
the rich right you know it's not the
it's not the bourgeoisie themselves and
on tv and whatever right
are you with me when i say it is the
petty bourgeoisie that is the kind of
dominant force in like among pundits and
so forth right they're not the
bourgeoisie right they're bourgeoisies
of the decaying elements of all classes
the urban petty boozers just so happens
to be an extremely decaying class
element as the class of people who uh
found out that they're not going to make
a living being interpretive dance
uh instructors so
yeah that is going to be the lump in
that english was talking about now can
you please address english's quotation
and tell me whether or not angles is a
nazi go ahead sir
[Laughter]
i love how you do these long context
free quotes and then you're like angles
agrees with me
establish the
angles is pragmatic right angle says
this okay
we'll we'll ally ourselves with
reactionaries around an issue and once
that issue's over then we're over right
so that's what angle says citation this
is this is from principles of communism
right and also from the manifesto like
we ally ourselves with reactionaries
but we will not we're not gonna we're
not gonna lie in bed with them forever
we'll we'll as to the extent establish
that as the context for his quote about
the minute that diverges
sir dr trotsky he called them scum can
you please establish how that's the
context for him calling them scum
because that's what you said
doesn't mean what you think it means it
doesn't mean this is somebody who we can
now dehumanize no it means it means uh
it means nine non-binary uh dsa uh
communism right what does it actually
mean establish the
context don't know man you know you
sound like somebody who who knows words
but doesn't know their meaning or
something may i offer my interpretation
of why you're always can i offer my
interpretation of why you're stumbling
and mumbling your way into saying shit
you can't back up with anything
well that's not actually what's happened
here what's happened is that you cannot
answer anything i can explain why you're
doing it i can explain why you're doing
it what's the strategic value of cutting
off large portions of the working class
how does that help you
they're not large portions at all oh
yeah they are they are large they're
large you see you think that because
they're big on twitter they're not big
anywhere else cut off anyone who anyone
who doesn't and anyone who isn't with
you in the anti-woke backlash right
maybe some people think hey you know
what white supremacy doesn't you see me
why do i have to pander and uh maybe
some people have some sympathy i don't
have to pander and impede large groups
of people have sympathy with that okay
and then you know
sure racism isn't real nothing's real
it's all hippy california anyway
can you please uh answer the question if
you're doing the equivalent of shit
posting right now or if you mean that
for real because you're not big on
giving your actual positions all right
uh here's my i've had the question
here's my position
so penny bourgeois petty bourgeois ideal
ideologists and activists
aren't worth a grain of shit especially
when for decades they've failed to
actually reach the working class you
want me to pamper them and be nice to
them when they're out here repping
communism communism they haven't reached
anybody they've been complete fucking
failures and clowns prostitutes of the
democratic party at best it's the only
impact they've ever had on reality is
being prostitutes of the democratic
party and being at the van cultural
vanguard of u.s imperialism but you want
me to hold their hand and baby this
class of degenerate parasites when the
measure is the ability to reach the
working class not to reach each other
and be nice to each other and uh make
each other feel good why should i why
should i participate in a left of
friends it's a friends circle of the
whole left we're all discursively
comrades with each other and we like
each other and we have we're holding our
hands with each other but fuck the
working class we don't have to reach the
working class we failed at doing that
for decades let's keep lying to
ourselves and babying ourselves and and
going down this path of well at least we
have each other everyone else has a
reaction i don't buy that i stand with
the people i stand with the american
working class i don't care about people
who call i don't know it seems like you
call him some human it doesn't seem like
you really stand with them it sounds
like you're like well fuck you left i'm
going to ally myself
not something that'll be interesting to
see what i don't have to organize
post human historically what organizes
reactionaries well
is fascism it's it's saying look i'm
going to make sure you guys are taken
care of you know you guys the white
straight males i'm going to make sure
that you guys have health care right
what does that happen
so whoever reaches the working class is
uh fascist
what the hell is that what you think
what are you saying how is that anything
like what i'm saying white straight
males
well i'm saying when you when you reject
woke-ism right whatever the hell that
means do you think do you think you
reject the idea of that i think most
black
gay rights i people everything
i i reject you i reject human rights i
reject human rights organize them i i
reject them
i'm against human rights
like you let's be communists together
i'm against human rights i'm not friends
with all those people with their weird
looks and whatever they have subhuman
physiques they're not my friends they're
both maybe you'll be involved by the
country club i will be
very interested to see whether that's
true but i have my doubts post human i
think you're going to be rejected pretty
soundly by them but if they do take you
in i think they'll take measurements
okay let's do a race
sorry let's do a race one year from now
who has reached out to more working
class people me or you want to do the
race
sure
let's take it on it's a challenge okay
how do we measure it what's on the line
youtube channel
how do you measure it what do you mean
at youtube did you you went you went by
the world of youtube channels you went
on that uh
that one uh conservative guy his channel
he had
400 000 views and you made a complete
ass of yourself trying to sell the
average person on why stalin was good
not once did you talk about his living
memory among the russian people today
instead you talked about oh let's go
into the history in the context nobody
bought into it you look at the comments
they all said you were sorry you didn't
like my video there maybe you could do
better you should reach out to that guy
you had a chance to go you had a you had
a chance to go reach normal people and
explain them why stalin is good you
completely fail you are a failure of the
communist cause you are failure
i give you money
i take your phd and i'm grading you you
get an f i have your phd now you're my
student i give you an f minus for
differential in order
you would have to be my teacher but
that's not exactly the situation i'm
your teacher now
i've taken your phd because you lost
this debate so bad i take your phd it's
mine now
man i got it i got to you're very
entertaining use those skills
maybe reactionaries will have similar
laughs as i'm having you know maybe that
maybe you'll define a reactionary define
a reactionary
well i define a reactionary as somebody
whose politics are pro-capitalist and
who's whose social views are
you know
towards the traditional family and
towards a kind of toxic christianity in
in the west that's a that's a
reactionary right okay somebody who
looks to
brave women in a traditional family who
is against gays who is against trans who
does not believe trans people should
exist or do exist even right somebody
else didn't say
ideology i didn't ask you just for a
description i'll ask you your reasoning
why why is the trans issue decisive
man i've given you a copious amount of
reasoning
and by the way that applies
i didn't say it was decisive but it's
part of the mix why because these are
people who believe in a traditional
gender binary
engels in his origins of the family said
under communism true monogamy of
relation between man and woman will be
realized true monogamy he said he said
monogamy so yeah
there's no room for your happy political
according to frederick engels
based on love though not a property
relationship sure he said we do have
monogamy between man and woman
marx said the most authentic human
relationship is the relation between man
and woman sounds pretty traditional to
me
okay well i'm i'm glad you have your
slavish interpretation of that text uh i
wonder if it's just tell me
where you're saying
you're defining reactionary about
so-called traditional family roles right
how do you define so-called traditional
family rules reactionaries of the
19th century are they pro-capitalism no
actually in the communist manifesto they
pointed out that reactionary soldiers
were some of the largest and biggest
contingents of socialists that existed
at the time they weren't pro-capitalists
they wanted to turn the wheels back to
feudalism and you also called me a
reactionary solstice i would like to see
you uh justify that that's why i'm
asking you what is soul reaction or yeah
i don't know what did i say
i've been doing that for an hour and now
our debate is coming to a close
i want you if you're going to run away
now yeah yeah yeah now your reaction
and why you're mr former professor i
don't call you doctor anymore i call you
i call you
you're not doctor
change your name you're not you're not
uh dr ass you're mr ass now now let me
just be successful man okay this will
not be successful
okay okay
you before you run away i just want to
ask you thanks for coming on man it's
been it's been a real okay okay mr ass
alright now i'm gonna run it away i'm
just i'm just gonna i'll give you a
couple of summary remarks all right so
during this debate i've spent the entire
time i don't know what reactionary means
you can't define it you said capitalism
plus your traditional family what's the
traditional family how do you define it
well
you you give me a bunch of random quotes
and then interrupt me every time i'm
talking for more than 10 seconds but
nonetheless
i'm not like your students who has to
listen to you rambling on talking a
bunch of bullshit and you know what
fucking nonsense you want to show me
everyone's on my stream nobody's
watching your dumbass stream fucking
prove it nobody cares about your dumb
stream let me just tell you that you're
organizing the segment that you want to
organize
the petty bourgeois
you know republicans show me that you
only only 200 people show me the
treasure shit only 200 people are
watching your shit and the rest of y'all
i hope this has been educational
it's literally only 200 people watching
this ideology
yeah only 200 people are watching you i
don't know who you're addressing yes
there's 800 are watching 200 are
watching you
all right he kicks me out
hey dr ass did a horrible job i took his
phd phd taken
phd taken hi
what the fuck
i just took your phd
i just took your phd bitch talk shit
about me on twitter then you fucking
give me such a poor performance i ask
you what a reactionary is can't even
fucking answer it
damn
i thought that was going to be a lot
harder than it was and it's not
dr trotsky
is no longer a phd i'm gonna make that
tweet
i'm gonna make that a tweet we're gonna
go ahead and tweet it
i'm gonna go ahead and tweet uh
okay
go ahead and tweet we're gonna go ahead
and say
phd taken
i just took
s
phd i will be changing
i am now dr haas
phd
in marxism
leninism
as he is no longer a doctor and i'm
changing my twitter name to dr haas as
well
um
let me go ahead change it
um let me see
uh s'more
settings
uh account say profile
edit
uh doctor haas
changed
he just lost his fucking phd
oh man
he just lost his whole pc
thank you fp
please
thank you dm tree with the for the five
thank you jay for that ten appreciate
you man appreciate you so much
congratulations dr hayes you destroyed
mr bear
yeah mr bear he's not phd anymore
dr trotsky your phd has been revoked
completely revocational phd he's now my
student
he's now my student
i thought i thought i was going to have
to go deeper and we didn't have to go
deeper that was really easy
that was actually really easy
thank you son
appreciate you man
samira
are you done
she's not done yet based thank you
default appreciation
did i really miss a 50.
no johnny with the 50. thank you so much
man i'm so sorry i missed that thank you
so much brother appreciate that
appreciate you
appreciate you so much man
appreciate you so
much free phds
um
that was fun guys i had a lot of fun
hey is the undefeated
uh thank you so much man thank you
see now i understand why these people
don't debate me i ask them basic
questions they can't answer
like that's why they don't debate me i'm
it's not that i'm yelling i wasn't
yelling
i said i asked them basic questions they
can't answer
i literally just ask them like very
simple questions
and they're like uh uh i i and i give
them quotes everything and they can't
answer
thank you so much voip appreciate you
man
yeah
thank you so much
yeah i don't know
thank you american prometheus
appreciated us
thank you so much
appreciate you you see how simple it is
thank you
sincerely louis farrakhan 666.
that only lasted one hour that was a
one-hour debate
thank you so much voidburn appreciates
that
thank you so much let me read out
voidburn's super chat
assatar accused you of quoting marx
lenin angles out of context when asked
to contextualize them he dodges then
turns into a fart turbine saying nothing
for 10 minutes straight just wanted him
to shut the fuck up yeah i mean he he
kept like muting me i think on his
channel thank you so much werewolf with
the five appreciate you man he kept like
muting me on his channel
which is interesting because it's like
bruh 800 people are watching it online
so what are you doing phd reappropriated
by afro-asiatic male with mediterranean
characteristics yeah that's uh that's
true racial equity right there waste
racial redistribution free ysl thank you
demetri appreciate you man
um guys i uh i'm just curious because
you know
i'm really curious like uh
most people are gonna watch this debate
on my channel they're not going to see
it on his channel so like him like
muting me and shit it just makes him
look bad
paper win holy fuck man thank you inside
a single thing from marx engels lennon
stalin because he has never read them i
have better read freshman students
yeah it's fucking crazy thank you so
much paperwork no good faith there's no
way he believes that leptoids are a big
part of the working class
by the way i want to give credit where
credit's due
i took this idea of stealing phds from
kantbot kantbot was the one who um
started this trend that when you debate
someone with a phd and you win
you take their phd they're no longer a
phd you take it from them
so that comes from countbot
and that was my uh inspiration from that
for that
but yeah i mean that was a lot shorter
than i thought it was gonna be
because yeah that was just super easy
let's see what he's saying
i i loved it i loved it
um i had a great time
i had a great great time he's meditating
now
he's meditating oh god yeah he's got to
meditate that one he's got to do a lot
of meditating for that one because
that was um
yeah he's got to meditate on that one
he's meditating now thank you jesse
miller appreciate you
yeah he's really got to meditate that
one i mean that was the easiest fucking
debate i've ever done
that was literally the easiest debate
i've ever done
that like that was actually scheduled or
planned even the debate with uh
jf was like took more thought power from
me this was like just super fucking easy
this was super easy
um but i am a doctor now
i am now a doctor
that this is like a word of warning hey
guys don't debate haas it's not a good
idea
holy fuck jennifer thank you so much
weird how he lost his cool guess all his
meditation didn't help
yeah he got angry based thank you chris
morales township for the days a hippie
could get a phd and make a living on
selling meditation classes and virtue
signaling to baso us ghana these days
thank you so much chris
easy win you destroyed kaviarkowski
thank you so much mtf
appreciate it thank you so much
that guy's not good at debating but he's
also not knowledgeable about anything
like
i kept giving him quotes i guess remove
from the concert i'll give you the floor
establish the context
and he's like um no
that was uh funny
that was a lot of fun but
i you know it lasted so quickly now we
have to fill the content we're gonna
stream for a little bit actually
yeah we're gonna stream for like yeah a
long time i think
yeah we'll stream for hours
you guys can't hear samira but
uh
uh that was fucking hilarious
that was so funny
samira how long are you going to take
what are you doing
based
before newbies leave why not explain why
the doctor's definition of reactionary
sucks
thank you so much madeo
let me grab a samira chair
yeah i'll do a twitter space maybe
yeah we'll probably do a twitter space
that was fun
i have never seen a more thorough
evisceration in my life than this debate
us obliterated assatar assatarlo thank
you so much paperwork arguments of the
great khan thank you so much
um if i miss madeo with the five thank
you so much man appreciate you
appreciate you
what do you guys think i had a lot of
fun um we're gonna do a twitter space
probably
and i need my uh
sting i need my thing
yeah i need that thingy
um
uh oh fuck bear
thank you tareshi
phd celebration party popper
thank you so much to reshi
let me go grab uh my charger
ny young brother
thank you so much third rail yeah
samira's just doing makeup
um
yeah she says she's doing it in the dark
because my lighting is so bad
okay sure
all right let's um
let's get this
and then
and i have an app uh
to use
there it is
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thank you so much
thank you so much uh
i guess a phd allows you the privilege
of not defending a single statement or
accusation thank you dementor samira
fuck
it is
connecting
move your hands up
you think views on you know shut the
fuck up punch
literally shut the fuck up
yeah i got a phd tonight guys
look at his phd
thank you so much unidentified thank you
so much man
it's connected no it's not connected
i
thank think so much man appreciate that
sila
thank you so much man appreciate you so
much
okay it's connected now
perfect
um
all right now that it's connected
okay
i also didn't get sleep
i didn't
i got fucking two
hours it was like three hours
i went to sleep at 10.
no i didn't sleep i i went to sleep at
like 10
i went i would just sleep at like
11 40
and woke up at three
what are you talking about i got like
three hours of sleep
i'm not how am i fucking lying
how am i lying
she just she just has this problem she
just cannot reason
correctly
go hands up
any money
be the reason
i want to test something
spaces
hello
indeed
the final facts i have my space up
somebody join it and request to speak
so um
so i could like see if the output can go
on desktop
you'll do it now
you're taking so long
everyone's waiting for it
everyone's wait okay samir
that is speaker
speak
no you're muted
hello hi
hi everyone ah fuck it doesn't work
it it's like nobody can hear you on the
desktop
oh wait audio
yeah volume on wait speak now
hey
um
let me see this
all right
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no
we actually turn bluetooth on
deep i can connect
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oh well done
uh what was his
thing again
his reason was that i don't he didn't
give one he just said all right the
debate's over now goodbye
did he accuse you of being a fascist
yeah
oh okay
yeah i asked him why i'm a fascist he
couldn't explain
just come here
just finish whatever you're doing
no you're not you're taking so fucking
long
okay you can
work all night right
i guess
all right anyway i want to just talk
about quickly
so
let me put it this way if someone can
come debate me
you can take my phd i'll remove doctor
from my name because we're basically
passing um his phd around now we're
passing around his phd
and if i lose
you know
uh
yeah
if i lose
and you know
i'll give you the phd i'll give it to
you
you'll have
you know
you know i can't mods check the fucking
mod chat
so fucking stupid
marge check the fucking private mod chat
all right here's this guy maybe he'll
take my phd go ahead
go ahead unleash yourself
this is your chance to take my phd
go ahead and meet yourself
go ahead and speak
go ahead and speak
excuse me
excuse me
yeah what's your question
what are the chances of
some sort of communist
revolution in mexico
i have no fucking idea probably pretty
slim
well
you could come up from mexico and take
over
all right
he left
interesting interesting
looks like there isn't any challengers
to the phd
anytime soon
that was actually very weird also i mean
i don't know what the hell that was
i don't know what the hell that was
matter of fact we have food here
hello
what
all right so your issue is that the the
we live in socialism thing
yeah
all right go ahead challenge me
i don't think there's anything
about the mother production why not
it's against society it's about
destroying the ability to connect
society
sounds punk rock and very normative can
you explain scientifically why it's
anti-social
yes it's an alliance between oil bankers
and drug dealers you know what social
media felt that the world war two and
the cia
okay
do you know what social means
the
reconstruction of
the economy
yes
rage against the machine
you're raging against the machine
brother can you explain that to us in
scientific terms
i don't understand what she
so this is this is my diagnosis this is
this is my diagnosis of you the world's
really shitty and unfair and marx and
engels are here to make it more fair
so for you to say that we live in
socialism means you're saying the
world's fair and it's not and marx and
engels
are raging against the machines
all right i'm talking about fairness
here i'm talking about a struggle
impetus to destroy the capacity of
society to reproduce itself to decrease
the amount of
food that is produced to be able to feed
the people of africa yeah so what you're
basing
basically saying
okay
so why why okay so you're basically
saying
that there are contradictions within a
socialist mode of production
no i'm saying that the mode of
production is anti-social
it's not about the reproduction of
society it's about the reproduction of
that design destruction
yeah i understand
it's not it's not able to success it's
not it's not able to successfully do
that but that's not the only criterion
to what socialism is it's also the
socialization of the means of production
the transition the transition from
capitalism to socialism implies a long
dialectic
that dialectic may very well involve a
point within the early stages of the
transition into a socialist motor
production in which the super structural
remnants of the capitalist motor
production
introduce a contradiction that
may lead to the common ruin of all
contending classes as mark singles put
it but in terms of how we are defining
whether the motor production today
has fulfilled the prediction of marks
and engels of an increasing
socialization of the means of production
and
a planned economies uh you know it seems
pretty clear that we don't live in the
capitalism marks and engels seems like
we're
in the early stages of a different mode
of production
and also why why do you assume the
pessimistic outlook because all the shit
you're talking about
is the result of the political
superstructure not the actual mode of
production china's leading the
revolution in the mode of production
worldwide it's the that's why even
business interests oftentimes
are pro china in the us
the reason for that is because the china
actually represents the reproduction of
the conditions of production
uh the obstacles to be able to do that
are increasingly political and based in
monopolies not necessarily the structure
as you put it of the mode of production
coming out
i view the
main contradiction
what about this is this is just the
issue come on you just said it
you just said it what is the actual mode
of production centered in great britain
because i don't think it's a mode of
production that can i don't think it's
an actual mode of production that
reproduces itself through production it
reproduces itself only through political
politics and political interventions and
monopoly parasitism of the real mode of
production which is increasingly
socialistic
well their mode of human relations
you know we don't want to call it
production they can't delay through
destruction
and that political
um
system which you're talking about which
allows them to continue the accumulation
is what you call socialism
well i'm not i'm not calling i'm not
calling the politicals i'm not saying we
have a socialist political
dictatorship
our political superstructure is still a
remnant of the capitalist motor
production i never denied that
what are you claiming
the actual underlying mode of production
that exists in china and that this
ability for the bank of london to raise
billions and billions
yeah that money's fiat money it's
political denominated currency doesn't
actually reflect what's going on in the
motor production
that's political that's political money
philosophy that's politicized
as a hypocrite who peddled rage against
the machine
dude you keep saying
dude that sounds very punk rock it's
really
it's really punk rock do you have like
pins saying save the whales on your
trousers
couldn't care less about the environment
dude i care about the ability of people
to grow food to feed themselves
okay what is your pro so your problem is
that the corporations are raking in
billions
no my problem is that corporations like
next we are taking water supply and
making it able for people to
irrigate their agriculture
okay
i view this ability to extract these
resources and destroy the
very fabric of society
as
anti-social
i don't see is that base is that based
is that based in any mode of production
or is that based in a political
superstructure that includes the
monopoly
uh formations
well i mean if you're claiming
you're basing the litmus test the limits
test
the limits test of a mode of production
is its ability to reproduce itself
in an economic not just political way
how does this
so-called motor production you're
talking about reproduce itself
economically not just politically how
does it economically reproduce itself
by going around the world and blowing up
other oil-producing
countries
that's political
no it's economic by crushing the
opposition or the selling of oil that's
fucking political
that's political you dumbass that's
fucking political
the fact that iraq is not able to sell
oil do you think the us wage do you
think the u.s war in iraq was an
economic event or a political one
false
okay
you're saying war it was just it was
like trading on a market
i'm saying
part of the interest of the forces in
the united states which alive is
themselves that the imperialist zionist
machine that wishes to expand israel are
oil bankers who were upset about the
competition of
saddam producing oil and how did they
stop saddam producing oil was it through
economic means or was it political means
by blowing up the
oil derricks how do you blow up oil
barracks with economics
they're pretty physical
they economically they economically use
the missiles
so that that was that was just an
economic phenomena that wasn't political
no it's
a
tearing of the economic and the
political
okay just because political politics is
related just because politics is related
to something economic
i'm asking you where the actual economic
mode of production is that's not just
politics
it's an accumulation by destruction
that's my whole point
that's political dumbass
because that shows whether it's actually
the mode of production or just the
superstructure from the previous mode of
production
so demonstrate the economic base and
demonstrate the economic base not just
the superstructure
the economic basis in the oil monopoly
the ability to force all countries
buy oil from how is a fucking monopoly
enforced
i mean i don't
if you i don't if you have to buy oil
how is that enforced how is that
enforced how is that how is that
enforced how is a monopoly enforced
how how how how how how
going around
missiles and both
what is that what is that what is that
what is that what is that what is that
what is that what is that what is that
what is that what is that what is that
it's fucking politics
okay are you marxist
i'm not particularly attractive
you're not a marxist
at the author of heart but that's what
you want okay so you don't believe klaus
bits that all marxists believe that war
is an extension of politics politics is
an of war you don't believe that
i believe that but i also believe that
all war is an extensive economical
okay but in order to demonstrate an
actual economic base mode of production
you have to demonstrate how that mode of
production can reproduce itself
outside of political interventions
why
because that proves whether it's that
there lies the entire distinction
between politics and economics politics
is based on rules enforced economics is
based on the relations of civil society
but the relations of civil society are
often violent i mean
that doesn't fucking matter that doesn't
matter that doesn't matter that doesn't
matter the question is
are they purely political or is there an
actual economic element there that's not
producible to the politics
which is what
the oil monopoly that's reducible to
politics the oil monopoly is a matter of
national security for the u.s state
and it was it was literally it was
literally something
it was something that political planners
it's something political planners
instituted in the 70s consciously it was
not the fucking result of economic
activity it was politically enforced
planned
i don't know what economic system is not
political you're for
um
the capitalists don't sure i'll give you
examples i'll give you examples in the
19th century with the capitalist motor
production capitalists opened up
factories and engaged in the economic
activity of mcm
in a way that was not reducible
to the political superstructure there
was an actual economic phenomenon
structured that was called capitalism
yes
and that economic political success
how did it exist
did it require massive
that is immaterial to the fact of
whether it was also not just a political
superstructure but reflecting of an
actual motor production
i don't
think
because it's cause and effect a mode of
production gives rise to a political
superstructure a base gives rise to a
superstructure superstructure doesn't
create a
base the oil monopoly decided
political objective of the targeting of
the country no it's
you see that's just the case that oil
monopoly was only sustained politically
meaning the entire monopoly is political
it's a political monopoly that's what
monopoly means you dumb
stupid fuck there is no economic
activity
that is that is
not reducible to the political
superstructure there none and to the
extent that there is
it's socialistic and it it enters into
contradiction with the political
superstructure
the same thing you just said can you
describe the catholicism no it cannot no
it fucking cannot no it fucking cannot
because though they're interrelated
they're not producible in the 19th
century
capitalists through an organic process
mcm is happening
and there's no need it's not a monopoly
yet it's actual market that's happening
now when it becomes a monopoly
that ceases to that's then it becomes
political it requires the quality of
socialization and politicization before
then
it reflects the economic bonds of civil
society not reducible to the state
and the proof is in a fucking pudding
because before the state served the
capitalist class the capitalist mode of
production had emerged in the feudal
state you dumb stupid
fuck before this state served an
anti-social mode of production
social mode production existed
so feudalism was you know feudalism was
capitalism
feudalism and capitalism are the same so
feudalism and capitalism are the same
no they're neither all of them
they have an entirely different religion
in feudalism
under the feudal superstructure
political superstructure there was a
capitalist motor production
that was emerging
under the capitalist supervisor there
was an anti-socialist mode of production
that was developing
hey retard
under feudalism
there was a capitalism
i don't give a fuck i don't give a fuck
i don't give a fuck
i don't give a fuck
anyway i'm stealing it from you bitch
you're not stealing shit
under the feudal superstructure there
was emerging a capitalist motor
production
where the state was not serving the
interests of the capitalists but
nonetheless capitalism was emerging
go ahead and explain it
because you're saying there's no
economic activity with that's not
producible to the superstructure under
my qualifications i just gave you an
example of economic activity that can't
be reduced to a political superstructure
because the political superstructure was
the vestige of a prior mode of
production
yes and i can see this point but i've
brought through
one the second world war is the second
large explosion of surviving about this
agency plus
that this material reality resulted in a
superstructure
that was then used to go around
so what's so what's the mode of
production
so the motor production is anti-social
there is like so
i'll explain this to you i'll explain to
you the motor production is based
on socialized means of production
that's the object
of exchange it's a socialized version of
the means of production
through derivatives through a derivative
uh derivative exchanges
among among the uh the collapse of
commodity money
which is the universal store of
universal labor the collapse of the
commodity as such
and the rise of
prices
as units of account
for the fulfillment of socially defined
ends for example the e what are they
called e
e r g or whatever scores that blackrock
creates now
yeah none of that is based
that is that is effectively the
transition to a socialist mode of
production
and you can look at the decentralized
role of the internet
in socializing the flows of uh so-called
capital and the flow of money
for fiat money and the restructuring of
the economy on the basis of the
attention economy which means
literal like economic planning for what
consumers want walmart walmart already
fucking does that if we can go on
you're not disagreeing with any of the
arguments so
you rested your case
failed attempt
yeah what kate
go ahead and speak
yeah
everything's that going off your speed
there's categories
like there's a
level above this to lift
kind of discussion from
uh but a question i'd have for you
is if you're defining the socialist mode
of production
through this
socialized means of the direction of
production
through
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consumer indexing uh whatever variables
blackwalk produces is that your ideal
uh economic motivation is that what
you're aiming for
uh no i don't believe in ideals
all right is that where your practice no
it's towards bringing about that's a
wrong way of looking at it
how would you suggest looking at it
socialization of the means of production
is just an economy
uh where the mode of production
lies in the fulfillment of some kind of
socially contrived and
socially established ends
so what's the political project that
comes from this
because it seems like black rock
consumer index scores
have led to
what's basically the
largest potential famine in history
coming in next year
um
blackrock should be completely
eliminated
but but the underlying the underlying
technology of
a state
um using algorithms
to determine how flows of capital should
be um
where they should be sent that can be
appropriated in some way
so uh kind of
communist
grimes ai
economy
uh
i don't know about ai what that means
but yeah algorithms as in as a tool for
planning yeah
all right i guess a general critique
here
would be
i i think you are the
representative of our system today
uh it seems like you've got
a fairly good handle
of certain aspects of the flows of
contemporary economy but the positive
program seems lacking
yeah it is kind of lacking
all right
you know i i'm sorry i'm torn
i'm torn between like
economic theorists like paul cox with
his idea of like
super computer uh complete central
planning
um with like uh
whatever computation technologies or um
you know more of an understanding of
china's
way of
using i don't know i think a combination
of all of them probably
i just i just find it weird how every
single company that you and even every
startup almost
seems to like try and do everything at
once like every company is trying
to have this broad over-encompassing
vision
of like first of all
diversifying itself in every kind of
possible way like buying up all of these
companies that have nothing to do with
its original function i mean it just it
seems like every single company is
trying to become a communist super state
that plans and controls
like whole parts of the economy
yeah in a certain way it seems like like
disney disney doesn't just like make
cartoons anymore they want to like
encompass every aspect of experience
they want to literally make a disney
neighborhood village
like if they want amazon wants to make
smart cities and all this kind of shit
it's like every every single company is
trying to
compete with a communist party of china
but it seems like what's different with
the communist party of china is in this
base you're talking about with
specifically the physical aspect of
production
and same thing with russia and their
ballistic weaponry
but especially what china's doing with
fusion energy i basically what i think
is um
probably algorithmic technologies should
be appropriated to be used to promote
the uh physical economy and the
revolutionizing of the methods and
forces of production through
infrastructure
through methods of production um through
methods of distribution
through different forms of acquiring
energy
i don't believe in renewables at all
um baby besides fusion energy if i don't
know if that's renewable but uh i don't
believe in like uh solar or wind or any
of that bullshit
and uh i also don't believe in what's
the other one they push
sometimes but
yeah i don't remember yeah i don't i
don't
i don't believe in like the green
economy
sure
but uh
regarding artificial intelligence or
machine learning
i appreciate the dialogue you've engaged
with
other people here and there but i'd
maybe suggest looking at the core of his
work from 48 to 52
which consisted of critiques of
specifically
norbert weiners and john
von neumann's
concept of information theory which
leads to artificial intelligence
where you can do certain optimization
problems great with machine learning
but you really can't get
a breakthrough on the physical level of
production
as in what you can do with machine tools
what you can do in the actual physical
process yeah i i um
i i think it's a tool i don't believe in
like ai as like a replacement of human
beings i just think
it's a it can be a useful tool for
large-scale planning
sure yeah
and like not even just one i'm not
saying one ai algorithm i'm just saying
like the underlying
technology what does blackrock use they
use aladdin like i don't know just these
things seem to me that they would be
useful based
in anyone who thinks an algorithm can
run an economy has never written a line
of code before us
algorithm cannot plan an economy
are you done yet yeah can you grab me a
water please
bridge
so i just have a friendly suggestion to
be wary of the vaporwave quality
of a lot of these products
i got some quantum computing industry
and i think these large algorithms work
similarly it's basically um
something that'll be sold on a on a
grant and then proprietary basis that's
basically a threat to every company
that if you don't have this sort of
agnostic breakthrough
in data processing some other company
will
and they'll wipe you off the map and
there's not really anything principled
there for them i
agree all right man
i'll see you later bye
uh thank you
are you not dressed
i'm worried
okay
all right suit yourself is like don't
make sure you're dressed
i'll fucking get banned
ah
she's so cringy
she literally spent two hours
getting ready
i scoured
come here
come sit down
um
this is my bad side
okay you want to switch no no
okay no one can see you can see me
all right
um
yeah
now he knows how we feel waiting for our
streams all right we had we got we
peaked like 800.
i noticed
amazing you were watching yeah
what did you think
well the first like 20 minutes of it
i was in the shower so i couldn't really
but uh
i think
the reason
why he did not fare so well aside from
your
great performance is because he actually
did not know where has stood like i
don't think he understood haza's
positions no he said i hate he said i
hate gay people
really yeah he's like well you're
spreading hateful rhetoric
gay people what the fuck are you talking
about
does he know about the fact that the us
is trying to bully countries into
legalizing lgbt rights etc
like zimbabwe for example gambia is
another brunei
that's
one of biden's main uh foreign policies
yeah
well i mean i just asked him basic
questions and he seemed like he was
struggling like he never answered one of
mine but i answered all of his
yeah
i'm just disappointed that he left so
early i wanted a longer debate
yeah i did too i didn't expect it to end
so quickly is there anyone else who
wants to debate you
yeah anyone who wants to debate me get
in the discord
we'll debate
i'm going to order more water
you could have told me earlier i ordered
it are you hungry do you want food i'm
not gonna eat it
i mean i can bring it to you
um you were on time like 9 00 pm right i
had to be because if i wasn't you would
be like oh a house quit
yeah puss it out
all right i got to be on time
because then he wasn't going to debate
you know
but i feel like i was mean to him
i don't know why i'm not feeling bad
about being muted
the whole time because he kept calling
me a nazi on twitter
he kept liking all these very uh
negative comments
aimed against me against me like he was
liking comments calling me an insult all
this kind of shit oh that's messed up
yeah so like uh
so he did not enter the debate in good
faith
no and what actually
when you side with the twitter mob
against me even if you try to be polite
to me
i'm gonna tear you to shreds i will
never show you mercy if you side with
them yeah
i will never show you mercy
i don't even care how polite you are
when you side with that twitter mob
against me you're my enemy i don't go
fuck who you are
i said that his name is mr assatar bear
now he's not a doctor anymore i took it
and the only person capable of taking
that phd away from him is me
just saying no
how
well everyone thought that i um
no one thought in that debate about the
indo-pacific versus eastern europe i
crushed him and then yesterday i was
looking at the comments i did crush you
in that debate as well so i've been
involved twice you've never beaten me in
any debate yes i have in the
indo-pacific pacific
no
no every debate you lose and then guys
you know what she does
i beat her in every single debate and
then she just gets angry no i don't she
goes she goes i don't wanna i don't
wanna talk about this did i do that in
that indo-pacific debate every time we
have a debate i didn't do that in the
end every time i actually apologize for
crushing you to that extent every time
we have a debate she goes i want to i
want to debate about this i want to talk
about this
he's not undefeated in debates i beat
him in the indo-pacific debate
specifically
she's trying to say that a fucking
australia is the center of the world no
i did not say that
i'll agree and then you admitted it on
your stream the day after that i was
right
let me ask you something you did an
entire uh a segment on the solomon
islands
right and how we my video got two views
wait wait wait nobody watched it hold on
let me finish nobody cared about it
nobody watched it
two views okay so
you did coverage on that and then you
said that the solomon islands could lead
to world war three because the u.s is
getting upset over that now are the
solomon islands are they in eastern
europe or are they in the indo-pacific
just because war can break out because
of china doesn't mean
that uh the indus doesn't mean the
indo-pacific's the set you got extreme
you said it's the center of the world no
i said that it's the most important trio
strategic region for the u.s cold war on
china and russia chris morlock asked a
question what area of international
relations are you into samara definitely
not
offensive neo-realism
depends on the conflict
what frame of analysis you use
i don't have lip injections you fucking
assholes
oh my god stop you don't have to respond
to everything i know but that's
something that i need to set the records
no i think i think you look better
yesterday
you haven't seen me with like
proper makeup on properly glammed up
when i picked you up from the airport
you looked way better
naturally
i don't have a nose job either
um she naturally has curly hair
yeah
she looks so much better with the curly
hair but she straightens it because of
internalized white suppression
i actually like the curly hair way
better
and yesterday you were wearing like no
makeup
when i picked you up
you looked way better
but so all of this time that i spent on
my makeup
getting ready wasn't worth it
well i'm not trying to impress you i'm
trying to impress chat so i did it for
them
uh
yeah but stop throwing your bros
lectures
excuse me yes chat chat is an extension
of my consciousness
so if you're trying to impress chad
you're trying to impress me indirectly
are you trying to say that uh your chat
is incapable of independent thought
yes
that's how i designed the chat that's
fucked up
you think i tolerate independent thought
in my chat
yeah
no
i don't
the highest the most
the greatest thing you can do in my chat
is gorillas and sons
what we want based
do a hot tub stream together show chest
hair we are not doing a fucking hot tub
stream we
talked about it in austin
that was a
joke my hotel had a hot tub
i was literally just flirting with you
well thanks for admitting that
we spent a good 40 minutes debating that
debating what
whether or not you flirt with me
yeah i don't have to anymore
why
because
i don't
i don't need to
hurry
um
anyway um i'm reading chat sorry i get
distracted i'm new to this
no actually makeup isn't
um because
muslim girls are known
for their extravagant makeup it's
actually a really
cool stereo yeah i'm an american though
i like american
ways
of the girl next door
um so you prefer jennifer aniston to
angelina jolie no yeah you're on crack
absolutely
i'm an american you you're more like
britain
british why because south asia was
colonized by britain
lebanon was colonized by the french so
are you french
kind of
i like france more than britain
no france is more soy than britain no
it's not
if you look at napoleon
wait wait wait wait napoleon napoleon
versus boris johnson napoleon versus
that bad guy with the power why don't we
no okay compare compare napoleon with
the guy with the fat guy with the
powdered wig david hume compare that
yeah jolie is way better looking than
aniston no
um jennifer lawrence or megan fox
uh jennifer lawrence
wow
internalized white supremacy that's
megan fox is white
and who actually looks like a typical
white american girl
megan fox you're on crack
jennifer lawrence looks lebanese
does have very weird taste in women it's
just
abnormal she's just racing
his taste in women is anything i don't
like
you know what he said last night he said
that ashoria rai was ugly she is ugly
samira made me watch this dumbass movie
no no we watched like 15 minutes of it
it's a movie about the mughal empire
she kept getting mad because i kept
giving commentary
she was like
oh he was so annoying he wasn't even
paying attention to
no i was giving commentary to the movie
and then randomly this woman comes on
screen and i'm like she's so ugly i show
your eyes and then and then samira was
like samira is like and then i'm like
samia's like that's a shreya rye
who
saying she's ugly
why is it that you
have chosen
like these typical like girl next door
types against joey i'm an american
because i'm because this is the
difference i'm an american
pickup up trouble
right you're looking at bad pictures of
her type in auschwitz 2006. she's older
now
but uh type in australia right 2006 that
was her peak
i'm an american
yeah and i like jen saki
that's disgusting type in no it's not
type in can we show them morgan ortegas
no do you know who she is no
i don't know these mega walls
i'm an afro-asiatic medic i'm an afro
asian don't touch my computer
i'm an afro-asiatic mediterranean male
it's spelled a i s h w a r y a space r a
i space 2006. samira you just have
elitist you know what your taste is your
taste is elitist taste from 2007.
yeah and
in 2008 was when liberals took over
hollywood
fucking liberals always controlled
hollywood no conservatives they were it
was more conservative leaving
back when the conservatives control with
the wild west fantasies those all those
women from those wild west movies they
looked fine as hell guess what they were
all girl next door
very thick very fucking uh no no
yes they were yes they are marilyn
monroe look at that
marilyn monroe
had like blonde hair
and she was just very typical no 50s
back in those 50s western movies and
shit they were not your 2007 elitist
2000 the the 2000's were the best
hell no
that was the worst jessica alba
australia rai angelina jolie
angelina jolie tomb raider
ham is one of the most beautiful things
i've ever seen him he's literally on
crack
he doesn't like angelina jolie because
angelina jolie
is tall with long legs
and
she has
she's overrated
you're such a fucking zoomer only a
zoomer would say that nonsense she's so
fucking overrated
yes i like glamorous icy dominatrix
looking women yes i don't like that shit
i like julia fox
she's not good-looking hell yeah she is
she's very average from uncut gems julia
she looks like a white girl
that's my face
and thank you max the confessor thank
you so much man no julia fox's face i i
mean i'm not gonna say she's not good
looking i just think her face is very
vanilla white girl
that's what i like
i like sophia loren
is italian looking to me not julia i
don't listen i don't like elitist tastes
i'm a man of the people you're literally
on crack
all right irina shake
i don't care about these fucking
hollywood celebrities the arena shake is
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hollywood means nothing i would reject
hollywood celebrities we have instagram
today instagram has accelerated the arms
race celebrities mean nothing instagram
you look at ig decentralized ig models
are top tier no what yes that's
disgusting he actually think uh he
thinks instagram hold on you're not
letting me speak you are always
interrupting me tick tock and ig not
tick tock ig models up here and then uh
second is um
second is like uh
fuck second is twitter models third
what the fuck is a twitter model i don't
know third is google models fourth is um
fucking uh
okay fourth fourth fourth is um
youtube
movies and then the the bottom of the
list is twitch eagles
and then the lowest on the list is
hollywood celebrities what do you think
of tyra banks
peak tire banks
uh i was told that i'm not tired banks i
said you're not tyra banks haas you
can't
who do you think you are not scheduling
the debate you're not tyra banks
you have like
totally like zoomer taste it's
disgusting
there's no grease in my hair you
assholes it's wet
based
who is ausa's favorite instagram baddie
thank you quoting jesus and i i don't
remember them off the top of my head but
when i scroll through instagram i just
see them
type in morgan ortegas
no
type in morgan ortega no
he doesn't listen to me he's just
yelling at me
ig
has no baddies ig is filled with
mediocre women who decided to go on
instagram to cater to
woke liberal
samira doesn't understand dialectics the
elite hand-picked ones
that's not instagram's decentralized
from the people morgan ortega is better
looking than jen pasaki
no she's not
do you know who morgan ortega says hey
look her up
i promise you jen saki's better gen saki
is hideous looking she's actually
hideous no
jen saki um
morgan ortegas is actually greek i think
oregon ortegas yeah
which just um
rejected my appeal
oregon former spokesperson
that's not hot at all
yes
yeah she's good-looking
jen saki's way more he's actually can we
watch the video of morgan no which
ideology is less insufferable alpha
syrians or situations whether our alpha
syrians are better
yeah i'm under attack afro-asiatic
mediterranean taste under attack exactly
um do you know what asian taste is
i'm afro-asiatic mediterranean listen
afro-asiatic mediterranean tastes
yeah ortegas is better
samira focuses on the eyes and looks for
that certain texture yeah that's true i
don't care i don't care about face
so what do you like about jen pasaki
her motherly name
iranian tastes under attack
she looks very fertile and
very much like a mama bear type
disgusting
no she's like 45 years old no longer
natural american male tastes red-blooded
american male state so you disagree with
russian beauty standards yes
no i agree with stalinist to russian
beauty standards
watch those movies from the stalinist
era you'll see
like babushkas
no they're all
trust me watch those movies stalinist
tastes
i don't have elitist taste
better taste
um
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i want to show you morgan ortegas
samira just looks at me guys
she literally will just look at me
she'll be like you're actually very
handsome
i've never said that before i'm like i
know what the fuck
she literally just stares at me she goes
no i don't you're actually very good
looking
i'm like um i really like his jawline he
has a nice jawline and why do you why do
you act like that's a surprise that's
what i don't understand why do you act
like that's like that's something that's
supposed to surprise me
thank you jen i appreciate you us likes
women who look like a means of
production
yeah true
um
alicia thank you so much best looking
first lady of all time
michelle
are you serious
yeah
i think it's melania i think it's
michelle melania trump is better looking
than michelle obama i think it's
michelle you're woke
and then before michelle was hillary
yeah you can hang out here if you're not
a communist
thank you for the two
michelle michelle damn miss shows
we can fix
is also really good looking she used to
be the state department spokeswoman
i am anti-communist can i still hang out
here
hillary was smoking in the 90s
thank you waffles thank you voidburn so
much man and thank you max the confessor
also princess kajar on stream 13 men
died for her beauty that's her
hold on
samira what you said asian taste
look up the princess kajar
no i don't want to why because nothing
you say matters
really this is this is the ultimate
taste no can i just show you i want to
use your computer no this you can't use
my computer wait how do i
stop
don't touch my fucking computer
look this is the ultimate this is beauty
before oh yeah liberalism before
liberalism this was the beauty standard
not kidding
look
13 men committed suicide because she
rejected
you know that
you actually don't think she's good
looking
i think she is
no i think she is
look i want to show you this person but
coz won't let me touch his computer
so then can you do it for me
i don't want to react to anything
but this is content
no it's not
the content is right here
hey samira
you're so mean to me why did you even
stop by my fucking apartment
yeah i thought this uh business trip was
related to streaming
and hanging out
no
this business trip
it's a business trip and you just were
in town
managed
is just saying that about ishwaria right
to piss me off
no i don't like he knows because it's in
my bio
rice stand account so he looked her up
in advance and he knew that in that
movie i literally did it that we watched
that it was her start i literally i
literally did it so he's only doing that
to piss me off i literally didn't
i don't like you
really
okay
prefers me without any makeup on okay
come on no
not none not none but like just a little
just a little bit like when i picked you
up
okay
okay
glamorous makeup is better than natural
makeup
no it's not it is
guys are intimidated by uh
afro-asiatic mediterranean platonic
business under scrutiny this is the
thing the best type of makeup is the
type of makeup that is not going to
scare raccoons
is that
you ordered something right
pause i'm touching your computer stop
what are you hiding on your computer
that you don't see you don't want me i
don't know
that's why
i don't even know probably something
pms and shit
don't get your feelings or thank you
voidburn so much
i don't have a hair clip that's why i'm
fucking with my hair it's really pissing
me off
[Music]
thank you so much boyd we appreciate you
i didn't have a chance to do my hair
because was rushing me
you know less you ever heard the saying
less is more
uh i've heard the saying but it's
objectively false what
first of all it doesn't make any sense
right based
two first idea for glamorous meaning
because then that would entail that all
women's
less
is more
i don't give a fuck what men have to say
about makeup sorry
how tall is hazara hotel
very short he's five eleven
i'm shorter than samira
do people in your chat think that asian
women can't have big lips naturally is
that the case
i mean my sister and my niece they all
have the same lips as me
same nose and everything
i am sweet
she's so mean
so controlling and bossy
she's very controlling
very controlling
very control
oh
give me one example
you made it you made me watch that movie
i didn't want to watch it we watched
like 10 minutes of it
and then you turn it off and then you
changed it to something else and i fell
asleep
dude
kept interrupting the movie with talking
you kept uh
interrupting it
new jersey is
with you you guys see my bald spot
can we react to something no
no the reason why new jersey is great is
because of its location
new york city is close philadelphia is
close baltimore is close dc is close
what the fuck are you doing
thank you you are literally a child take
it
this is what haaz does when women are
over he pulls out his uh real sword you
know i knew take it oh yeah i'm not
taking it take it
hold it
oh
women don't
swords
that's transphobic
oh
um
because
do you have a hair clip i can borrow
sure
i don't even have a fork why the fuck
would i have a hair clip oh my gosh you
don't even have a fork that's what i
should have ordered
because all samira does is
those debate things
you guys think cause is being mean to me
one's in the chat if you think he's
being mean
assholes
okay ones
you're lucky i let you sleep on my couch
it could make you sleep outside
okay
be grateful
come on um
yes what are you gonna ask him
oh is he streaming right now
he called me earlier today
why are you so mean to me though
i'm not mean i'm real
kindergarten game
i'm real i'm not mean isn't that the
kindergarten strategy be mean to girls
you like
give me one concrete example
just the way you talk to me give me one
example um
in general i'm not going to give you i
mean you're always mean and you're only
mean
how am i supposed to give you one give
me one example of maybe
your entire attitude this
trip and in austin on stream he was mean
to me and he even admitted that he was
being mean to me because then he
apologized to me on stream in front of
all of you
this is a
teachable moment for all women of the
importance of feminism or else you end
up with a guy like me
look
this is okay this is the teachable
moment for dudes as well when you are
nice to women and whatever all that kind
of shit
you get nothing
oh so you get nothing so you admit that
you want something
no
no not admitting that i'm just saying
look she
is obsessed with me because of
just because i keep it real
fake news i never sinned for you once i
don't sin for anyone
you call me mean
she calls me mean
you know
guess where all the nice dudes that you
know are
in your friend zone
you and jackson are my only friends
yeah
true but like
still through what i said
don't send friends except
sake
is she worth simping
i was mean to haws last night and that i
apolo
how are you mean
on stream
when i was spreading fake news about you
oh yeah
i remember that
yeah like i was i've been nice to see i
let her sleep on my couch
and like
you know
what any hot friends all of my friends
my female
friends they're all from pageants and
they're all like legit models so of
course has would
you guys probably wouldn't like them
either because you guys have hearts
afro-asiatic mediterranean mail
yeah what do you mean twitter models
i don't know just random people i see on
twitter
[Music]
um are we toxic together i think we are
we're not together yep
oh the e girls that harass you on
twitter they're not very attractive at
all sorry that's
and
they're not eagles they're just swamp
things
all right can we debate someone can we
talk to someone let's get someone get
someone in fucking come on show requests
hey let's get mar
on i want to talk to him
can you guys no i haven't seen him in a
fucking long time he's probably
permaband
no he's not
from discord
i have not seen him in our new discord
so he i think he got permanent
okay so he can come on uh twitter space
right
i haven't seen him
what's your music i like
a lot of different types
we have nothing in common we don't have
any music in common we don't have tv
shows or movies common
and we don't have
aesthetics income
what do we have in common
i'm not falling for the bait
thank you christopher get dr ross at
target
finally cyrus are you joking
um
[Music]
i like old school usher
8701
and um i'm definitely a 2000s
for sure
coz only listens to bollywood music
that's i don't listen to any bollywood
music
and she called me racist because i don't
like bollywood
he's never watched a bollywood movie
but he had already decided that he does
not like bollywood i don't
um
thank you appreciation
miley cyrus he's being de-platformed by
big tech
who else do i like let's look at spotify
let's
spotify
oh
in the two south
i can't talk because my mouth is dry um
[Music]
reggaeton from the 2000s
reggaeton
yeah that was my shit
called john zurka
i haven't hit up john zurka in a while
i haven't spoken to him a long time
[Music]
i have to get myself my own drink
because oz won't do
yeah
why would i do that
actually so sad
guys this let this be a lesson
let this be a teachable moment
life is not fair
life is literally not fair
stop
come come you're killing content
forget about your hair
fuck
uh nothing right now bleed after
come
i'm using this as a leg wrist
sorry
not being challenged you're fronting
free
oh you forfeited your property
by getting up
wow she evicted me
thank you waffles appreciate you
platonic business trip is to work on the
podcast
yes
oh yeah what's uh what's up with that
very platonic
um
let's do a twitter space
oh i just did one oh
you're exhausting
the podcast i don't know what's going to
happen with it
we're working on it let's get jackson on
streaming
probably going out tonight saturday
and it's the the rating still does not
work by the way
but the thing is we don't need it
because uh
we uh did well
on your own too
so
i brought samira over to like improve my
optics because everyone says i'm
misogynistic
but the one girl that i bring over to my
apartment for streaming
is the most misogynistic person
okay so
so like
how to explain how that works
why'd you do that
why didn't you bring someone up
uh because
i mean because it makes it makes no
other sense to bring anyone else for the
stream over like
why would i just have some random girl
on stream especially since i'm on
youtube
define random girl
like someone who has no political
significance
and also i wanted to send a message to
all these fucking
elements
these feds and i'm gonna go ahead and
say they're feds all these elements who
are trying to do
um they try and make me turn against
samira and be like
you have to deny samira i i'm doubling
down that's also why because um
thank you all those people are literal
feds they're literal feds yeah i swear
to god they're feds i'm not oh you want
to talk about the drama
yeah go ahead
you know more
so
dust james he's a larper
him yankee tanky ewoks and a few others
are trying to like create this thing
within the cpi that's like anti-infrared
and
so samira retweeted some shit right i
think yankee tanki specifically said
that has
yeah well
they also talk shit about jackson too no
they said that jackson shouldn't
associate with them that's why i'm
saying they're feds because one day
they're talking shit about jackson
saying drugstores not principals you
should send it for their career then
they talk shit about me then they talk
shit about you and it's like they're
trying to divide all of us
um every day there's a wedge strategy at
play yeah um
it started with caleb and you right with
that wash video and then a few days
later yeah they've been on this wedge
strategy thing where they're just trying
to fucking divide us it's that simple
and then a few days after that caleb
fiasco
when you know they failed at trying to
split up paws and caleb they tried with
the retweet
yeah
that's what i was trying to say like
that could have been any one of samir's
retweets they decided to choose that one
to like make a discourse out of it yeah
and then
yeah they were specifically amplifying
my
yes negative tweets or my controversial
tweets to uh present them to k uh to not
caleb to you you're like hey you should
denounce samir
yeah
yup that's how it is
that's really how it is yeah and then uh
what
else um i mean
they've been actively after caleb they
want caleb to denounce us
yeah
yeah
jackson is trying to raid
yeah the raids don't work for some weird
reason
hold on i want to
see that yankee
you blocked everyone
blocked me i don't have him
hey speak
content
i'm looking for something
um
what the fuck there was like a mad
shooting on twitch
what
yeah oh gosh
and i think they were connected to the
azov battalion oh my god why haven't i
fucking covered this
i didn't know what happened
i don't know if that was connected to
the azlov battalion let me see
at least 10 people dead in mass shooting
at buffalo supermarket
and they were apparently uh
they streamed it on twitch
wow um
yeah let me actually see if i can raid
jackson
um i'm not ending it now i'm just seeing
like if it works
it's so fucking weird
ask creators to add you to their list
jackson hasn't added you to his list
no he has we battled each other it just
doesn't work for some reason maybe you
need to re-add jackson and then jackson
tried it yeah
jackson stream is over
it's gos i can't show it to you
obviously i'm not going to show with you
but yeah they went live on twitch
retired buffalo police officer and 86
year old mother were among the 10 people
who were killed
and apparently i think he had a
connection to uh azov
but yeah he went live on twitch
wow
so let me get this straight if they're
actually connected to the azov
that's going to be tomorrow's uh
i'm going to make tomorrow stream about
that because twitch banned me for
going against
he was inspired by bretton tarrant the
azov trained australian mass shooter
terrorists yeah
so i'm going to go live on that and i'm
going to say twitch bans me for speaking
out against the outlaw battalion they
just rejected my appeal today
but um
so you know
they had a guy go live on twitch and do
this shit
did you end up talking about that daily
beast article
uh
yeah i did on stream i think
pretty sure i did on stream
gosh
i like how even in that group
which had a danny hyphong max blumenthal
who else um
li xinjing
and lee camp and me
they singled me out as a quote
particularly bad actor
apparently i'm the worst
that group
just because i tweet shit
it doesn't make any sense
okay he doesn't listen to anything i say
everything goes in one ear out the other
it's really crazy how he just
zones out
and no that's not alpha behavior
i don't i don't sometimes she just says
stuff i don't understand what she's
saying
i'm not trying to i just don't get it
i'm like what are you saying
i don't get it
so why do you talk to me for like four
hours
i don't
no lee camp and i
we used to work together samira actually
trespassed into my apartment
she ran up she randomly busted down my
door
who picked me up and said from the
airport
not me
you told this story to stream yesterday
i don't know what you're talking about
so i felt bad for her and i let her stay
on my couch okay guys
don't make fun of my new jersey accent
it's not that bad
bad
someone said why do you talk you talk
like peter griffin
hey guys it's not that bad
lois
if you really want me to talk jersey i
can talk jersey hey lois
it's me samira ken
um holy naturally i have a very thick
new jersey accent i had to change it i
had to adjust it
for tv holy crap um but you can hear it
in some words even when i'm talking it's
me samira
that's not how we talk
peter griffin no the new jersey accent
is similar to you know new york accents
very similar
new york city please don't eat me on you
tonight samira is funnier and more
charming than you
look at that bitch-ass simp in the chat
i like him
yeah dude let me tell you the truth can
i tell you the sad truth what
she will never notice you
she will never notice you she's at my
apartment and i'm an asshole
and she will never notice you
that's actually sad
oh
look at this dude saying cope dude she's
literally right here
she's literally right here in my
apartment what do you mean cope
that's it's like
bruh it defies
it defies reason
you're literally in my chat
um
bro saying coke from his damn keyboard
bruh get a grip
i'm trying to help you i'm trying to
teach you the truth
based
thank you johnny peter griffin emoties
yeah we're gonna get peter griffin
emojis you thank you for telling me
we're gonna get the peter griffin red
guard emoji
thank you for um
thank you for uh who's grimes jackson
what up man
jackson do you want to come on stream
new york city please don't leave me on
tonight
jackson i'm a doctor now i took
acetaire bears phd and he's a mister and
i'm doctor now i took his phd also
jackson is doing so well on youtube he's
growing like crazy
so
youtube youtube stopped
the fucking um
thing where jackson i can leech off
jackson and he can send no they didn't
they didn't stop it yeah they did they
they fucked with it on purpose because
they know
holy shit if that shit worked
that would be ins that would be an
insane pipeline the jackson
oz
network
you're not a youtuber you're a tweeter
troll
well i do yeah okay and you do cgtn and
other networks yeah okay
i don't care about anything that's not
on youtube
never bothered to do anything on youtube
because it's so much work i'm a youtuber
it's easier to just go on cgtn or go on
rt i'm a youtuber and right now you're
on infrared say hi
thoughts on kyle kalinski i used to like
kyle stewart a lot back in 2016 i
actually thought he was very based uh
especially on syria and russia he didn't
believe the russiagate stuff but then uh
i think um
the past couple years
maybe it's because of his uh his love
what's her name again crystal ball
did she like de-radicalize him it's so
cringy when like news people hook up
when they should just have a
professional relationship
the doctor guy who debated underage
girls pics
like kyle and crystal why
should keep it professional
um
what about mika and joe
i don't know what that is
joe scarborough and mika berzynski it's
a big
version
i don't know
um
i like jimmy dore out of the former tyt
crew i like jimmy dore the best
all right i'm hungry jimmy dore um
i think the first time i met him was at
the dnc when i had snuck into the dnc
with oh my gosh democracy spring
um
yeah that was the first time i met him
uh and then you know we spoke at rallies
together and then he used to come to the
rt office for um
content i guess
so he's great i like him a lot
um
what do you guys think of um
the other tyt people who do you like
better jank wieger or
uh anna casparian
jank
what a horrible just
you think so
all right
i'm hungry
we can eat on stream
i will get it for you
i don't want to eat on stream
get dirty invite to against daughters
i want to stream with you i just got
here
i thought we were going to stream for
hours and hours all right can i go eat
yeah
no okay so how about
you eat here
no
i don't want to clean this up i will
clean it up
you don't know how to clean up
i will clean up
i want to eat too so
please bring your food
or i will bring both of our food
oh yeah
a
all right
i haven't cleaned up yet
what the fuck you need
just my shit's everywhere because you
rushed me go
he's overreacting oh my god he's
overreacting
my gosh
um
what should we talk about
are you guys interested in uh
talking about my media career
someone
said something earlier you can ask me
whatever you want
anything
bring haas to nj i wouldn't bring him to
new jersey because there's literally
nothing in new jersey
i also live with my parents
um
but i do want him to come to new york
city a couple of weeks so we can hang
out together my birthday is memorial day
weekend
and
i have no friends besides haws and
jackson
like no real friends
um so it would be nice to spend my day
with them
i like them a lot
um
who's the hottest media personality
um ooh
this is a good question
in news like a news anchor
there is this woman
there's a lebanese news anchor i think
her name is jessica azar a-z-a-r
look her up she's gorgeous she's
stunningly beautiful
actually the most beautiful news anchor
i've ever seen
she's yeah lebanese
oh
yeah caleb was my colleague
and um he was my friend before he became
my colleague so i've known him since
2016.
six years now
and uh he's like a brother to me we were
incredibly close at rt
um we'd help each other out
and uh we've remained in touch
yeah i know that daniel burke lives in
new jersey
um he's actually invited me for dinner
with him and his family so i uh
will have to take him up on that offer
uh thoughts on abby martin abby martin
was a friend of mine
um
in 2016 2017-ish
uh and then she moved from new york city
to la and then that's when we kind of
lost touch
but um yeah i generally like abby martin
however i do not disagree with i mean i
do not agree with her on uh russia
crimea ukraine
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what else
you know abby is still very good on
palestine she's great on
venezuela
cuba and nicaragua
i don't give a fuck but she has that um
see samira's gonna be fake and shit i
have no filter abby martin is a traitor
she denounced russia's annexation of
crimea she fenced it on the fucking
special operation abby martin's a fraud
i don't agree with abby martin always
so
um
but as i was saying she has that
i don't know um
david versus goliath uh political
analysis she likes to side with victims
so
uh maybe she has not taken his clear
stance on
russia versus ukraine because she sees
ukraine as the victim
being bullied by a much larger country
ukraine
i remember um abby martin did denounce
the um
quote-unquote annexation of crimea uh
but she did admit
in that segment itself that she wasn't
familiar
uh with the history of crimea and russia
that's probably why though
you know rt did offer to send her to
crimea to check it out for herself i
think
um so you are eating on stream but you
won't let me eat on stream
did you make a mess i don't make a mess
can i are you gonna end the stream yeah
no okay don't end it
can i
get my food yeah
where is it
don't
i wipe the floors
so she can tear
this bread apart and get crumbs
everywhere with no plate
i literally do back-breaking work for
her
and she claims
she's for traditional gender roles and
shit i'm the one who has to break my
black back cleaning up everything
marshall
i break my back
us you have a debate challenger in show
queue
okay
it's not a debate challenger
okay
it's not a debate challenger
what do you mean
but thank you for the two
oh yeah i'm leaving tomorrow
i know
i'm kicking her out tomorrow
i'm kicking her out and she has to walk
to the airport
no come on
you're so messy
i'm gonna wash my hands
um who wants to get in
bc
anyone
you know what we should do let's do like
a
girl advice stream
right now
call in if you want girl advice
if you want women
this is all you need money
about
and swag
three things how exactly do you get
women
swag and clout
you have neither of us
but mainly swag
neither
so what do i have
are you asking me
i clearly have to have something for
what
oh i didn't know we're playing soup
um
she
she literally called me the god of swag
i don't even know what swag means she
called me the god of swag literally
don't even know what i mean
um
yeah i did slide in has dms okay
and it was because one jackson spoke
very highly of him and two i really
liked his tweets i liked how he
was a communist who was attacking she
likes how handsome i am objectification
as always
you're crazy
uh yeah i actually did enjoy my time at
rt uh it was a very valuable learning
experience and i did get to travel i
got to stay in moscow for a bit and that
was one of the best experiences of my
life i worked out of
dc london moscow it was brilliant
how exactly did i objectify haws
you know what
i'm reading chat right now and this
person is uh correct
the optics samira is hello logical and
has hella emotional i thought the female
was supposed to be
you all should see it offline
you also see how she goes down offline
i thought the female was supposed to be
the emotional one
good question are you getting okay i'm
emotional i have one can you just feed
me just feed me i want the strawberry
that's simp shit i don't do that can i
just have it please
i'm not going to touch it because i just
washed my hair all right this is a
lesson ready
i knew he was going to do that i'm going
to do that shit
yeah
um george
is like family um
can i just
give me something
all right
thank you
i didn't see that
all right um no i didn't go to an ivy
league school i'm not going to mention
where i went
but i didn't care about college
um i went to a private school in new
jersey she she came to stay to learn
from me i'm her professor
all right dr haas
i came here i came
she came for me to teach her the ways of
swag
so are you saying that um that doctor
you just debated had swag and you stole
his swag when you stole his phd nah i
turned the phd
into officiality no russians
so how exactly did i objectify you you
think that i slid in your dms because i
found you which is my looks
that was 800 pounds and 4-1 you wouldn't
have but why
do you think i slid in your twitter dms
because of looks when you don't post any
pictures of yourself on twitter
there's my twitch
i had no idea what twitch was back then
okay
i don't know what that
means don't know what that means
samira we get it
you think you're special because
you think you're special
because you notice my swag
everyone does
um
two reasons
spoke very high sorry excuse me jackson
spoke very highly of him
two i like that he was a tanki that uh
openly attacked wokism because most
tankies
are either woke or they tolerate
wokeness for optics
um
but i'm so glad i did because
our trio is gonna be fucking sick
i'm just waiting for the podcast to
start and it's literally just has
delaying it
did you not
well jackson and i are still down and we
want to get this going but has he's
i'm not even gonna
who
where can you get hazes
i mean you should write a book he has so
much swag that definitely
a book
i got a phd in swag
not in marxism leninism
yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna take the chair
ready no
no it's very fast ready
no stop
this is this is abuse this is torture
this is domestic abuse sure
yeah the debate with um doctor what's
his name acetar bear
the stalinist fucker
he uh can you move over left early i
think i want to sit there
where do you want me to sit
nowhere you should stand
hey guys
i like this
like this
hey everyone
are you going to talk or are you going
to just stare at yourself i'm going to
stare at myself
um do you guys want to get in vc does
anyone want to talk to us
we're giving girl advice
oh what girl advice would you be getting
like you know what like you know
i'm a female how your own female brain
works
when you don't okay hold on
everything she says the opposite is true
everything she'll tell you give me an
example give me an example
all right
somebody go and show you and uh ask ask
for relationship advice
see what she's she see
we're going to do it together
all right somebody give us content yeah
give us content get in vc and ask for
advice
or type it in our fucking chat
type it in our chat you'll actually get
in vc
or how do you join bc how do you join bc
get in our fucking discord
another discord
i like to make myself believe
that planet earth
knows
slowly
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does anyone want to get in bc what the
fuck just ask in the fucking chat
this is uh
go on our channel again our discord
it's on our channel
i think uh arranged marriages are the
ideal if not
because of our culture
then um
for men it's
quality not quantity
i think that's really important this is
my dating advice
find somebody
work your magic
and stay over their place once
y'all gonna listen to this stay where i
want this is the worst possible you wake
up in the morning
and she's saying i gotta go to work
so you go
okay
she leaves to go to work
how are you chilling
so go ahead put a rock in the door
go grab your stuff make yourself at home
cook some food
get ready
she's used to you already so she's gonna
come back you're still gonna be there
and her female
brain is gonna say oh okay this is
normal this is natural you got a free
house
is that what you're gonna do you're
gonna move to dc you got a free house
is that what you're gonna do no rent you
ain't gotta pay no rent nothing is that
what you're gonna
when
i'm paying your rent right now
she didn't even pay me for rent
i i was going to charge her
90 90
does hotels go for a hundred so okay i
give her ten dollar discount
okay
not even going to she gets to stay on my
couch for free
why
no so you were saying i remember on the
phone you had mentioned that you would
like a sugar mama quote
yes
exactly
that's exactly what i would like
yeah haz wants to be a house husband
yeah
i just looking for ways to save money
don't be cheap
be cheap don't be cheap
okay i'm being economical i'm not being
cheap so
me and my female friends talk about this
a lot
but um in
places like germany
men and women are going half seas like
that's the norm
whereas here in the u.s i feel like
still men
will pay
um that's changing really yeah suckers
um wait what you wouldn't pay hannah
dude you are not paying for shit
you're literally arab we split the bill
i don't buy anything for it
i make her pay for everything
yeah
everything
i just use your credit card
she pays for everything
nothing's free yeah
and jackson are my only real friends but
then i have female acquaintances friends
if you will um
i go out with
but i don't talk to them about my
personal life
just hang out
so i don't think that's a real friend is
it
hold on
yeah haas
why not why won't you pay
for a female yeah
cause i i'm a feminist i believe in
equality
equality
empowerment
do you think it's a good thing that
men and women are going half seas oh
yeah and actually i think women should
pay 75
because women i believe in mother gaia
the provider mother woman
you know women are better than men so
they should pay more
because
you know
so
you would just be a house husband and
you would have your wife pay all the
bills is that what you're saying i'd be
cheating
you'd be bringing home other bitches and
losers
that you worked
she's not gonna find out
and i'm gonna pretend it's my money too
i'm gonna bring those other bitches i'm
gonna say yo look at all this money i
met
you'll find out especially if he's a
journalist she won't she won't find out
if she's a journalist she
will uh journalists aren't as smart as
they think they are
they don't even have to be smart
positive
they get injured easily
um
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what
they're not they're not that smart i
don't know what you're talking about
i don't know what you're talking about
my hair is really pissing me off you
guys it's driving me insane
like um you guys remember that circus
stream we did in austin
together and has had his hand
playing with his hair the entire time
that's me stream
any other questions okay
who want the woman to pay
um what are you offering
to
that woman
all of this
and what is so special all of this about
all of this
you cannot find a comparison all of this
what's so special
looks swag
charm
you can find that anywhere no
nowhere
no comparison and
you can't oh find it
you can't find it
um
do you think i'm here
better i really don't think you can find
anything
i can't do better than you
hell no you can't
hell no
no no i'm i'm rare as hell
i'm rare as hell i'm rare
she's so lucky to be here
she's actually lucky i never show
anybody on
really oh
so why do you want me
because i'm using you for clout
what do i have
like a thousand followers
um
oh you're doing this for like rt cgt and
appearances that's what
yeah i'm using you
i'm using my swag
i didn't say you can do that i can do
whatever i want no i did not give you
consent that was actually
oz had the opportunity that was cool to
go on rt he had the opportunity he had
two opportunities to go on sputnik too
i'm the puppet master you're making me
i'm the puppeteer they're right right
chat is right
what are they saying
puppet master
i'm the puppet master i don't need a
good game do you think this is gonna
work on me
and
work for what
why'd you study
work for what
better before work for what
bad news
work for
what mary you can do better work
work for what
that i haven't already got
trying to make himself look
awesome he's fronting
what does that mean
you don't know what it means to swear on
the quran no i would never swear
oh okay okay
why would you ask me to swear on the
quran
just to see if you're willing to
back up which is
what they say
fake i don't know
any questions
yeah we want to get a debate going but
you guys aren't
stepping up we want to do something fun
we're going to do it girl leave that man
a bunch of
the majority of people
should listen to their voice
yeah
yeah
you want me to leave
should listen to their advice why
you want me to leave you
leave my apartment
why
you're too dirty
you make a mess with food
oh i make crumbs
with crumbs what have i eaten
too much grumps besides that one
bite of bread
believe him he's fumbling so hard yeah
he is
on my phone
why didn't who deleted that yeah why
would you delete that thank you sean
but for the lads in chat who us how
could i why you're such a beautiful
amazing gorgeous incredible smart
there's no one intelligent lovely
magnificent elegant symmetrical and
exquisite woman like samira khan
um
thing is
all the people telling her to leave me
oh listen
you don't know this game is rigged
it's not fair
you don't have my swag
she is obsessed with
she can't help it
y'all gotta understand there are two
people in show queue no there's not oh
how do you know
you don't have show q on yes i do know i
checked no
there are three
can you people to them
no why not
hello
yeah what's going on
yeah
give me your butt what is the point of
attacking marxism
how is the connelly house marxism
it's a workers movement
how
because they're spreading the message
how are they spreading the message
you saw it didn't you see it oh
all right great idea samir wait why
didn't you talk to him this is fucking
boring okay can we talk to someone else
there's other people no
oh so you just want to talk to me okay
no i think that's a little sweet
okay samira you if you know how to make
content start your own channel i don't
want to make my own channel
i want to talk to people because i don't
get to stream with you very often
especially with you irl
so let's talk to people i'm trying to
make the most
of tonight whoever all right pick one
all right talk to them
you have to talk too no go ahead samir
wants to talk to you what hi how's it
going
all i wanna say is samir is objectively
correct has a thousand percent correct
on the economical thing
and has should not protect himself from
haderus knowledge
a million percent
don't defend women bro don't you're an
arab man bro if you want to share money
and shit like the europeans do it's
based
arranged marriages can get you like some
ugly ass check you
okay
um i didn't hear the first thing you
said about me what was it
i said you're wrong how's this right
about okay
okay um what am i wrong about
from the economical thing or like it's
cheap it's not being cheap yo it's an
arab man let him like do his arab things
you
no we're all middle eastern we can get
each other you know no men should pay
for women
no
but that's something else
no
objectively no if you're if you're a
mentor
you know maybe there's something
interesting on your phone i don't know
uh why don't you think that men should
be responsible for paying the bill
because men do other responsibilities i
don't know
we shouldn't get taxed more i don't know
we already protect the house and shit
you like no no i shouldn't pay taxes
so how do they protect us
physically that's just that's it
physically physically we can doesn't it
include um
economically because
if men we modern we live in we live in
different times now women can get a job
so it's not the same anymore okay what
if i don't if it was undergather society
we used to do this shit what if i don't
want to work
well then you're a lazy bum i don't know
it seems like you want to put
la is
look i'm having a very socialist view
right now
shout out to dprk they get this shit
really this is a socialist yeah uh this
is this is social is based socialism
women should work union define a family
and
men's roles
i mean women still worked in the ussr
they still worked but how did they
define
family
what do you mean to find a family yeah
it's like it's a wife and a husband and
then they share shit yeah each other
what their roles are in a family setting
it's normal what am i supposed to say i
don't know western families work i'm
from the eastern shit you i mean
we're both eastern here
your team yeah
it's not that special it's like there's
there's mom and there's dad and there's
a kid
that's uh definitely not no i'm saying
no look you know what eastern is
that woman has specific rules and shit
but she still works
i don't know it's not that why do you
want to leech off women
because women each out of us daily daily
they leech out of us they should at
least pay something right that's
what
we're supposed to do
men are
i mean here's the thing here's the thing
with adam and eve
who who who try to seduce adam to eat
the apple
yeah and do have like this demonic
tendency not gonna lie so you think that
because of what
uh adam and eve went through want to
play
i'm not punishing women look god
punishes women through periods i don't
know
damn
okay and uh
they pay taxes it's a biological tax i
don't know
right but uh you're supposed to be our
protectors doesn't that include
i mean look the house maybe maybe the
house but even then we're kind of
progressive now you know no fuck that
why do you want to be progressive why do
you want to be willing i look i'm
progressive when it suits me okay that's
that's just how it works
maybe yeah i'm proud of
it well
um
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shout out has by the way he's lebanese
he gets shit look like
literally phoenician literally
probably closet assyrian closet assyrian
oh men pay for no phony airplane phone
caller condemns them
facts i can confirm
from the region also i can confirm it
no
no haas fights the burglar obviously
he fights the burglar and he fights off
potential invasions by unspecified
countries
okay so
uh uh ideal
relationship would be him leeching off a
sugar mama where you know he'd just go
and cheat all the time so he would have
no responsibilities
so why should the female have all the
responsibilities i just don't understand
because because women want a leash of
someone if he has the money through
sugar mamas what should you hear
see this is why
um
this is something new with the
millennial generator um
we're the first generation where there
are more male gold diggers than
so it's a problem what's the problem
what's the most we're trying to eat a
man's got to eat
exactly facts
wow you want to leech off women that is
not alpha behavior that that that is
alpha because when you think about it
all women do is leech out of men at
least a man can like leech a little bit
no um
i think that women are sufficient
actually it's not when you think about
it it's not lychee when you think about
it they're supposed to take care of him
at night right
uh and then men respond by protecting
them
are they protected financially and
physically
nobody here's what you're saying you're
like oh the man should pay for the woman
that's not even like this you want the
woman to reach off the man
financially i think um it's part of a
man's job as a protector right
why
like i don't i don't know the bill in
the restaurant is not going to save her
life i don't know
but he's supposed to protect her
i think that's my opinion yeah but
that's like in the house and shit like
if you go to a restaurant and shit
you're going to eat
objectively how is that going to save
the woman how are you protecting the
woman in the restaurant
she gets she gets her own like uh
salary and shit right
no she might not
but why why does she have a job
that's like a very leftist thing
look she's not gonna be pregnant yeah
but she's not gonna be pregnant 24 7 you
like at some point she's gonna work the
kids she uh
doesn't want her kids to go to public
school because of all the woke shit he
is responsible for taking care of the
kids and educating the kids so
not gonna lie at that stage at that
stage
raise your kids somewhere outside the
western society take them to like north
korea you take them to pyongyang they'll
love that shit okay i agree i agree
that's pretty based
teach your kids
shout out
the greatest ideology of the 21st
century what if you don't have the means
to just
um
save up money
okay so don't or seek political asylum
in the dprk you're allowed to do
that um
how hard would it be to get a permanent
uh resident visa or whatever
i'm pretty sure it's like you have to
specify where you're a political exiled
person or some shit
right so uh i mean that's
not very realistic is it
i mean it depends you i can't move there
easily so like i don't have that your
take is kind of malthusian i'll tell you
why
wait what what what why the hell is
malthusian you
project this our projection your female
projection no because you're saying that
men and women should not have kids
unless they live no i'm not no i'm
saying they should have kids that's what
you're saying right i'm the opposite i
think men and women should have like
five kids they should have a shit done
so you have like an army of yourself
when you're working right but you don't
want them to go to public school you
don't want women taking care of them
either
no that's
their father can teach them to be
warriors and shit and like the woman can
like i don't know
yeah yeah some shit like that but like
the woman can work at some office job or
something yeah
don't pay the bill yeah
no sorry men do pay the bill excuse me
women do not no no i believe i believe
the letter actually i don't think they
pay the bill
it's kind of cocked if they do no men do
pay the bill
all over russia i don't know all over
russia not gonna lie not gonna lie then
stalin's
makes sense i get i get i get stolen
you can't call the cops for not paying
the bill yeah in russia
dude and they look they they say that
they said that kaldirov is anti-women
i put her away
gone yo base look all i'm gonna say is
if that's true that means kadyrov is a
feminist and i don't like that
yeah are you saying kadyrov's a feminist
if it's if it is like she's saying i
think it's like
i'm saying it's a mainstream lie i'm
saying it's a mainstream light i don't
think chad will do that he has too much
of a
he has a chad and feminists don't want
men to pay the bill
no no they do they want here but they
want the man to pay for everything they
want the man to pay for everything you
and hazel feminists
no you want men to suffer
you want them to suffer under the hands
of women which is very evil of you
it's kind of what the devil are you
gonna um
are you gonna add your take
why are you tired
yeah
everything i'm saying it has to take
deep down
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do you know this person did you converse
with this person before yes
a million percent
my ideology i know him
all right man i run rtsg i run rtsg see
you later all right
nice talking to you
get someone else
oh yes
no please i'm five attic no
yeah
can you
what time is it
it's only 12 30. come on
all right we're gonna bring on irish
american
what
hi
how's it going
like ever but ask it but it's not okay
don't get too small don't get too smug
like women should it's fine for them to
cover a tip maybe pay for the uber maybe
yeah
but women should never pay full on the
meal
it's just what it is
it's just what it is i agree are you um
a westerner or are you from the east
oh usa usa every day okay so i have hope
in american men
listen that's how it's always bro he's a
sizable man why are you saying he's a
simp
because he's telling you what you want
to hear
i i'm assuming that he's your fan
he's still telling you what you want to
hear
listen i said the objective truth
like i'm a judge you know supreme court
no fucking
i don't pay i need this and this is how
i treat samira i don't pay anything for
her i charge her rent i make her sleep
on the couch
i make her buy all the food and cook
everything really yeah i got the panera
bread today
all food has been purchased with your
credit card while you were sleeping
anyway um okay
i basically i make her stay outside
and you think that's cool
yeah offense
boundaries need to be drawn you can't be
doing this sim shit
so if you treat women nicely
yeah you have to treat them badly and
obviously yeah
thanks uh he's on crack
thank you thanks for uh calling
the uf government paid me to spread it
next caller
what up dead ghost
hi
how's it going
he's
on crack
excuse
me it's your voice
thank you thanks
yo
hey yo
yeah we can hear you how's it going
oh okay sorry sorry yeah i had to turn
on my speaker
all right so um
first thing i want to say is like as a
married man
um
first things first like has is right but
the woman is always right so samir by
default you're correct
thank you
no no no no but but but there's a copy
like i'm just here to get that phd
no bruh bruh hold on no i'm not fucking
debating that
debate
why not don't because i don't fucking
want to debate punk rock i don't want to
okay okay all right all right all right
i'll drop i'll drop all right
what what is infrared though any
establishment yeah
no stop
it's a alpine card
no
it's not
but uh
yeah it is it totally is like
it's not that's what it was
the east germany said it was degenerate
and cringe
oh man i don't know how i'm going to
argue against east germany
but it played a
it played a decisive role in
oh oh yeah yeah yeah yeah and maga
i don't know it has it has chaotic
potential it has chaotic potential
uh you're causing chaos in the uh
lefty circles so uh you're punk you're
punk dude
people hate me more than they hate haas
why don't you take that away from them
though
i don't like punk rock music but i agree
with bonn
people's funk style that's what i was
compromised
chat quick question do you think people
hate me more than they hate haws no oh
china in the context of china like punk
rock did get incorporated into because
like their biggest punk rock band
uh was critical and they were critical
of the way things were in china but they
were tolerated and
they've been a mainstay for like 15 or
so years because punk rock can't be
fighting rock
so
they're patriots and uh pussy right they
have approach what's that
what do you think about pussy riot
aren't they uh punk rock
well punk rock is is chaos like it's
chaotic
because but do you know what pussy riot
is
yeah i i know i know yeah yeah the the
with the with the balaclavas and stuff
like that it's like
it's relative though
what kind of society do you want chaos
we need chaos in america
in order to i don't know anything about
this
rock topic is it really that uh well
because because because right now right
now right now the united states is a
late 80s soviet union
yeah that's kind of true
okay
so what's the solution so since it's the
late 80s soviet union we need we need
nozbol we need fucking punk rock we need
uh we need to steal everything that the
establishment has taken
in terms of art culture uh discourse
everything we need
we need to be a vortex
all right so you're saying you want to
change the culture that would also
require changing
current beauty standards
which has loves no
no those things no no no no no no i
don't i don't think has uh
like i think haas tries to find
elements
that um
the
like a lot of people would be like oh
okay i think i'm starting to understand
how
like has like
steps down from his throne sometimes to
kind of uh relate to uh us peons
um
he's falling asleep
he's falling asleep
i want to continue i need to bring cast
in here cass has has some really
interesting arguments
he doesn't want to argue for some reason
he's really tired
and um i just had an argument with him
about streaming because i want to
continue we have a lot of business to
take care of
we have a lot of things to look over
yeah
i mean i want to stream yeah busy times
busy times yeah dude hey uh like thumbs
up like
based all that no i all right okay i'll
give you this option yeah we can
continue streaming but
we'll uh schedule the business to
another time okay
or we can
let's schedule the business for
okay
so
so so so that phd is mine now right
you didn't really debate anything
no it's not yours no it's not yours it's
not yours i didn't debate anything
all right all right
yeah that's all i wanted to talk about
like marriage and stuff because i'm i'm
a wife guy so
like just
by default oh yeah and also uh but also
uh
men shouldn't be paying for shit
like
no that's not a good idea men should be
paying for
me
no no hold on to you you get that bread
and you keep that bread
you get that bread you're a man you keep
that
i spent my
on women that were not serious about
marriage they were you know oh i'm not
sure i'm not sure i'm just like no
millennials suck
if you're
i'm married now because in china this is
a like a real civilization a real
country right not some fucking
yeah but like over in that context that
western context get the bread keep the
bread hold on to it tight
all right well it was really nice
talking to you thanks for calling yeah
i've been i've i've been following your
stuff for like years so oh really wait
keep in mind how do you know of me
um just uh
probably probably twitter
um maybe maybe from uh
no actually i think it was twitter yeah
because i got on twitter years ago
and
then i i've been banned so many times
like there's no way i can get back on
now i assumed it was rt so good to know
it was twitter thank you so much for
calling um it was nice talking to you
yeah you too all right i'll take it easy
hold on guys oz gave me two options
business or streaming i picked streaming
for you guys
so defend me
he legit does not want to stream
it's me basically
he's being an asshole it's my last night
here and he's like
doesn't care at all
you guys want haas to sleep
all right i guess if you guys want him
to go to sleep okay one's in the chat if
you want us to continue streaming choose
if you want him to sleep
he really doesn't
i am completely awake i got all ready to
stream and you want to fucking go to
sleep
hey well all right i guess we're gonna
go to sleep
he said take it easy
what do you want to do
okay
all right i'm just gonna
all right
bye guys see you tomorrow