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Welcome, cult members. And today we have a lot lined up.

No way I'm running into this with no content

and just doing it off the top of my head.

I would never do that.

I would never do that.

By the way, y'all like those 30-minute intros

because we used to have 10-minute intros when you guys just had a little bit of more energy.

I don't know what this.

You guys need to understand something, all right?

Let the cult gather around and everyone needs to understand something, all right?

The only reason

all these other

political people on the internet

are not communists

is because they are lazy,

retarded.

I already said retarded.

Fuck.

Ugly.

That could be a source.

I think so.

Why not?

You know, like it's lysionchism.

The laziness and the retardedness and the bad morals create physical ugliness which works as a feedback loop and it just they look in the mirror and it reinforces their anti-communism anyway the only thing separating you from these other people who, I don't know, they want, I don't know what,

Hassan and Nick Fuentes and Destiny and all these other people, is that you guys have high energy.

You somehow have the willpower and the vigor to recognize that we need to be

building massive massive mega construction projects across the entire country,

unleashing the productive forces,

fully seizing power in the reins of the state.

None of the moralism.

We don't give a fuck about your democracy.

Yes, it's going to be authoritarian.

Good pro. What's going on?

Political power comes out of the barrel of a gun, yada, yada yada. You have that high energy, and you have that ability to understand that.

And you know what?

That needs to translate in the high energy when we work as a community to get things done.

I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to roast gorillas for about 30 seconds.

This community, by and large, dog shit at making content dog shit and understanding the algorithm dog shit at knowing what to clip i don't one of the reasons infrared as a stream is just not very accessible nobody makes short form clips that are that are accessible okay you guys are really bad at these things and i don't see people working to improve i just see people gibbering in general chat

in the Discord. There's

drama apparently. There's drop.

You know what? There's drama.

Everyone needs to be lined up

into the

cult

compound. everyone lined up

and I should just literally

grab a

stick and beat everyone

unconscious

drama what

what I have you and you have

and you and look at the clips you guys make.

They're not good.

And you're having drama.

Why?

What is going on?

What is going on?

Everyone needs to be very harsh on themselves and improve their understanding.

Because we are getting lapped.

We are getting lapped by the opposition.

This community needs to literally be the best of the best.

And you know why I'm being so harsh on you because we don't

have sugar daddies we don't we're not like these other political communities where they have dark

money and they're getting all this help we have no help it's just us so we actually have to be an actual like pure like the ex best of the best

to get anything done and if you don't believe in yourself if you don't believe you have the ability

to do that,

do you guys actually think I'm that special? Like, do you actually think I'm like a Jedi or something?

Like, you think I'm fucking Harry Potter? Like, I was born, just gifted.

I'm just like you. I'm just like you.

I'm just some random fucking guy

who applied the science

and then here we are.

All this from scratch, infrared, everything.

If I could do it,

trust me when I say you could do it.

Okay.

And it's like if everyone had 20% of Haas's energy, overnight we would take over the whole country.

I'm not asking for 20%.

I'm asking for 5%.

I'm asking you to have 5% of that. Okay.

All you literally have to do is stand on business. It's that simple. It's like what Shia LeBuff said.

Just do it.

Just do it.

So what do you have to do?

You have to make the content yourselves.

Look at John Jackman.

I mean, that guy from the ranks of the guerrillas, arises John Jackman.

Determination, excellency, he's pushing through to get it done, all right?

He's making these tweets.

He's making videos. He's doing all these things and it's very

impressive all from scratch you can do all these things when infrared first started you think

there was people like that around? Nothing.

It was us, Caleb Maupin, Jason Unruh, and fellow traveler.

Maybe a few others.

That's the type. So everyone needs to really stop pussying out and, oh, why?

You know, look, we don't have billionaires who are going to throw money at us.

All of this is depending on the strength, the integrity, the power, the intelligence, and the skill and the cunning of the guerrillas and of the community.

That's what's going to make or break this.

We literally have no external help.

Everyone thinks Russia and China help infrared.

They don't.

And Iran. They don't. And Iran.

They don't.

We get funding from no one.

We literally get funding from no one.

We get no help from anyone.

Nobody helps us with anything.

We have friendships.

Like we have friends and our friends like Guancha, other people there we know,

and you know, they help us in the sense of like a working media relationship.

But I'm saying behind the scenes, no one is artificially boosting this movement. No one is helping us by giving us

bots and money and resources and credibility and legitimacy. Nobody's doing that. All right.

It's, that's why when I'm in person and I see the guerrillas it's like wow it makes sense

it makes sense that this is like actually a thing but then when you see all these other people

do these in-person conventions and you see their people it's like these are not people who are moving mountains

this is something here is fake something about this brand and that movement is fake you understand

so guerrillas need to start getting their act together

and you know take it from me

you know i don't i can't believe there was drama about nonsense. It's just like, I don't even know what it was. I don't even care about what it was. It's just like, why are you having drama on a discord? Why don't you grow up? Think about it imagine

I don't get it

it's like look

call me old fashion

call me old fashion

but it's like

y'all really just like

wear your feelings on your sleeve like i'm a really your feelings that's what

you're doing on the internet you're showing your feelings and you're having feelings on the internet

have feelings in real life have actual real life friends and family.

Why are you on the internet taking it so, you know what I mean?

It's so cringe.

You got all these egos and feelings.

You guys have to understand, even at the high point in which I was under demonic's psychological demonic attacks, like when I was first starting out, I was a, you know, I never took it personally.

You know, all my fury and anger in the beginning was not personal. It was a righteous anger toward the generality of my disgust toward lies in general. Not that even it was about me. Just the fact that these people are liars and it's unjust, yada, yada, yada. But taking it personally, it's like, I've always seen myself as being on a roller coaster.

But it's not a roller coaster.

It's more like a force of nature.

And it's not personal. I'm just hitching a ride onto 2036 um that's strapped with nuclear weapons and um it's just not that personal.

It's like I am walking through time.

There's things happening, but I don't care.

I care about doing what I must to be one with the force.

Everyone laugher, you are going to jail.

I'm just kidding, guys.

There's a lot of things I cannot tell you that are going on, and I can't tell you about them.

Give me a one second. Give me one second. Give me one second.

Give me one second.

Give me one second. anybody guys on back uh back guys i just took a I'm back.

I'm back, guys.

I just took a shit.

Hey, Slava!

Oh, fuck, I fucked this up.

Slava! With the five! What's going on anyway

um

so yes

there's a lot of troubling

weakness and low energy

and I don't understand

how people have that or what the source of that is or where it comes from but um yes yes and honestly guys Yes. Yes.

And honestly, guys, we need to turn the energy up just in general.

In general.

You know how many times I go on Discord, look at general chat, and it's just people farting.

We need to, and I'm telling you this right now

for a reason. I'm not saying this out of the blue.

Again, there's not a lot I could tell you. All I could tell

you is to wait 1.5 weeks.

Infracultist, what's going on.

All I could tell you is to wait like 10 days or 11 days.

But now is not the time to start losing energy.

That's all I could really tell you.

Okay?

It's really not the time.

It's really, really, really not the time.

Things will come as they come, no matter what.

But American Partisan with the five.

Did everything infracultus?

What's going on, guys?

And, you know, the thing we should bear in mind going forward is that we got some hats on the way i can't even tell you what the hats are

what they look like I have it

right in front of me

right's right there

but I can't bring it on stream

because it'll give away too much

J-Sco what's going on

J-Ska, what's going on? J-Ska with the 10!

Wow!

J-Ska with the 10! Wow!

I'm super excited.

I just,

it's like,

you know what that is?

It's like,

isn't that it?

There's an episode of SpongeBob where he has like a secret and he really wants to tell everyone,

but he can't.

That's kind of how I feel right now.

Like I cannot tell anyone, but I want to so bad.

I'm so reckless.

I'm so reckless.

Anyway, guys, of course, I'm talking about my new food cuisine, culinary, what would I call this, culinary career in being a chef because I've been cooking a lot.

And everybody's getting samples.

Some people are getting samples which they're going to choke on and die from.

What a weird thing to say.

That literally is not even remotely close to what I'm talking about in terms of the secret,

but it just sounds very ominous and hopefully scares the right people to knowing that we mean business.

But look, what I was going to say anyway is that apparently Israel is going to invade Lebanon. I don't know if you guys been hearing

about that. I've been trying to

avoid the topic as much as I

can because I'm sick.

Warlord.

Which guerrillas should we

look up to besides John Jackman?

So we can learn from their example.

Um, Rev. Lescarus, of course.

Rev is another great example

I always feel like

Orvo and Genghis Kanye

Like those are people

Who I think have some shit locked down, you know?

It's just like, I don't want to keep...

Obviously, Volk vulture is literally a hero.

There's so many.

There's so many.

I don't want to have to name everyone who I think is doing a great job.

All I have to do is point out that the majority are doing a less than great job, and that's the problem.

Okay.

Jesus Motorcycle.

Yeah, of course.

Talons.

Yeah, like I said, I can't name everyone.

But I could say that the majority are lacking, doing less than what they should, in terms of excellency, in terms of quality, right?

And to be clear, we are probably one of the most organized communities on the internet.

We are, I have never seen a community.

I have never seen an online phenomena as organized as ours. That is as big as ours. Usually the limit to being this organized is 10 people. We have hundreds that are like very, very much soldiers able to do things in unison but we need to be

better than that if we even have a fighting chance we need to even be better we need to even be better

right we need to be way better why Because we're not going up against people who are smarter than us

and better than us and more talented than us. We are going up against people who have support

from entrenched moneyed interests that we do not have.

And that's why we need to be 20 times better than them in every regard and in every way.

We need to be better.

We need to be 20 times better.

Okay.

Minimum, at minimum.

Just to have a fighting chance.

Notice that.

Just to have a fighting chance, that's the level we need to be on.

That's where we need to be.

Okay.

For a new member like me what can we do

await orders you know start by hitting the two buttons when it's commanded

boost this post like re-sweet

reply

I mean you don't have to do that

for the general posts

but for the boosting the stream posts

absolutely because those get deleted right after

so look

we yo red blade, what's going on?

What's going on, Red Blade Runner?

I've noticed an interesting, I've observed an interesting phenomenon.

I don't know if you guys have seen the same thing.

You ever notice that Stalin is going out of fashion among the pan-leftists?

Whereas the logic for them

was as follows before. It was like,

oh, Stalin is bad. And then

they projected onto Stalin their

kind of murderous desires

for revenge against people

do they just like. they're like actually maybe

Stalin had a point if these were the people transphobes he was killing them and then now it's

coming full circle and it's like the left comms and the trot nonsense That's what's starting to become.

And even when it's not explicit, you know what people are saying, like, Roderick, bitch?

Because I don't want to offend certain communities by giving him the nickname he deserves.

But he is...

Wow, F.

Yeah, fuck this. I will literally

exit the stream right now. All right,

we're done.

We're done.

Fuck this.

Fuck this.

Fuck.

I'm not doing this today.

I don't have the patience.

I'm not doing this today.

All right.

Fives or we're just going to end the stream.

Straight up.

I have no patience for this today at all. Fuck this.

Fuck this.

Sevens if we're back. some people are doing five's not good at all. There's a huge delay then. Sevens if we're back,

I hate this fucking shit.

I don't have any patience for this.

I just don't.

Nines.

Nines. Go ahead with nines

Let's look at the delay

All right

See there's some people doing fives

I don't know if y'all are trolling

But that's a serious fucking problem

Oh that those fives are really bad.

That's really fucking bad.

How fucking delayed this shit is.

All right.

Well, let me say something.

If you are delayed right now, I hate you personally. And you're so annoying for being an idiot who doesn't realize that it's delayed by two minutes. And you're just going to type nonsense in the chat from three minutes ago.

I want you to know I personally hate you.

For those that are keeping, yes, keep spamming those sevens from 49 seconds ago, guys.

That's really, really nice.

Yeah, so much enthusiasm to spam those sevens. You don't know how stupid you look. That's the problem. You don't know how fucking stupid you look. Anyway, let's continue. There's only like two people in chat kicking, because they're the only ones who can even hear what I'm saying right now. Look at all these losers.

They're doing a fucking 5 March.

A 5 March.

Thinking they're keeping up

a bunch of idiots

anyway guys

uh

how okay what about threes

any threes

let's see

threes

all right okay so some people have caught up anyway guys let's uh get back to

what i was saying i've noticed a market shift in the tone of uh the pan leftists around Stalin and is they're all going even if even if they're not like

Roderick the bitch even when they're like him and they still say oh well Stalin i read lesudrae and he's but they still say

trotsky was also good they're like the Stalin trotsky split should be amended you should be

I'm professional I'm professional I'm professional. I'm professional.

I'm professional.

I'm professional.

See, I was about to say something that would have gotten me in big trouble.

But I didn't say it because I have that much self-control. I have that much self-control.

I have that much self-control.

Okay?

If you believe that Trotsky should be exonerated...

Okay? How can I say this without sounding like a murderous psychopath?

Let's think about this.

You should be Jason unrued. knows what that means but it sounds really bad

so that's it

nobody knows what I don't even know what that would mean

but it just sounds terrifying

it just sounds terrifying it just sounds terrifying. It just sounds terrifying.

With him and his barbed

wire baseball bat.

Anyway,

uh, dark,

that's not what I meant.

That is not what I meant that is not what I meant

that is way too far

that is way too far

not at all what I meant

nothing to do with fallout

don't mean it in that sense

that's a little too harsh

uh

Alexander the Great

what's up Anyway, this is veered off in a direction it shouldn't.

But these foolish...

These idiots don't even know what the point of Stalin's synthesis of Leninism was all about.

Don't I sound like such a nerd saying that, but it's so true.

They're like, oh, well, they're both like, you know, you don't get it. Why do you even identify with Marxism,

Leninism, if you don't get it? Like, if I ask you, okay, what makes Marxism, Leninism

distinct?

They will have nothing.

They will have nothing.

They won't even

have anything to tell me.

Hassan,

1949.

What's up, man?

But in any case, this is the kind of unfortunate situation that we're in, which is the normalization and rehabilitation of Trotsky is underway among the pan leftists.

And that's just like how, what's next, Hitler?

You know, probably, actually.

Probably. Probably. that's another thing that's happening that no one's responding to

is the rehabilitation of Hitler people People, people, people, even as a meme, even as a meme, it's like for people, all Hitler represents in their mind, their very uninformed, ignorant mind is like this strong man

who defied the liberal world order

and it's like they could not be so further than the truth

on every account he wasn't a

strong man, he didn't defy the liberal world order

yada yada yada yada

why do they think he's

a badass or something? I don't get it because he what he he yelled

in the microphone and then lost the war but in any case such is the predicament situation that we're in yeah the history channel is literally i'm going to go

ahead and say this a lot of people are blaming elan musk for the rehabilitation of hitler on

social media i think the history channel actually deserves that blame.

It's the history channel that gassed him up so much and made him seem like the biggest badass ever.

To the point where they started entertaining this view that it could be like supernatural aliens who had intervened

it was such a mystery and enigma of hitler is such a such a mysterious it's such nonsense actually

The History Channel is fully to blame

Not even partially, just fully.

And, you know, I don't know.

A lot of people really just find it intuitively

convincing and persuasive, you know?

Okay.

Ah, Jackson has just made the announcement.

This is something else I couldn't talk about.

Jackson was in Donbass.

Ha ha, ha, but he's back now apparently but now we can talk about it

couldn't talk about that before I just seeing it now

and last

after spending the last week in Donbass, yeah, Jackson has a lot of nice stories, but he was in the Donbass.

He was rolling with the boys, Wagner.

Actually, I don't know if that's true but he was in Donbass and it was a secret because had people known they would have tried to kill him I'm sure they did anyway. I'm sure they would have anyway, to be honest, because the CIA, of course, knows.

If I knew, the CIA knows, you know, because they have everyone

NSA spying and all that.

But, you know, we need to be a tentative to the following fact that it's actually Jackson, who's the CIA agent.

Because, you know, this guy on Twitter who's like a schizophrenic stalker knows way more than the Russian government would.

Let me tell you that.

The Russian government knows way less than Fiorella Isabelle. Okay. Fiorella Isabel is like so much more advanced at reading Twitter threads than the FSB.

She just knows.

I mean, the FSB doesn't know, but she does,

because some guy posted a Twitter thread of Jackson out of context

saying that Netanyahu was better than his opposition

for the elections.

Yeah, Ukraine

tried to strike the location

he was at previously, right, and he

escaped. Which is so nice.

Which is so nice which is so nice because uh he's not dead and he survived and he is now able to be used for the purposes of advancing American communism.

It's got nothing to do with the fact that he's like my best friend.

That's totally irrelevant.

This is a total impersonal, ruthless utilitarianism at play

totally unbiased

anyway

I really have no content

I just went live because I had to go early on RT

usually I'd spend a few more hours preparing something.

But guys, we're going to wing it and have fun today.

All right, don't worry.

Don't worry. Don't worry.

Don't worry.

Putin met Kim Jong-un, if you guys didn't know.

Super cool things going on in the DPRK.

Twitter space.

I want to talk to Tarek and...

I want to talk to Tarek Nishid and All right, who's space

should I join?

I'll join a space

right now.

Whose space

should I join?

I'll do that.

Let's join

Traders and Impostit. uh let's join um traders and impostors why okay this is d and d and space but i don't i don't know what's going on there any spaces I should join right now?

Dan Cohen.

Hotep's insult Groypers and shame Sneiko for being at AFPAC.

But how could I join that? What would I say?

Soleiman Ahmed is co-hosting an AFPAC stream.

Russia! Russia This I'm you know what I'm gonna go ahead and I'm so fucking sick of the Twitter space clout chasing actual grifters who have no beliefs and no values about anything but are just literally looking to

it's not even that they're looking it's a very pathetic type of grifter all right it's not even

that they want more money it's not even necessarily they want more clout what they want more money. It's not even necessarily they want more clout.

What they want

is more Twitter space listeners.

And that's their dopamine fix.

That's their serotonin fix.

I don't get it.

And they don't make money off of it they don't get anything from it

they don't even get real fame from it

because ask someone on the street

if they know who the fuck

Mario Nafalaz

is nobody knows who that guy is nobody knows who that guy is and you know uh host one yourself should i host one?

Should I host one?

I blocked all leftists on Twitter, I think.

I blocked all of them.

I used an app to just mega block like thousands.

Thousands and thousands of them.

This was months and months ago.

I think this was before Russia that I did this.

I was like, you know what?

These people are basically, like, not even human in my eyes.

I'm just going to block all of them.

And I forgot about them.

I don't even remember them now.

See if you can

debate a Trotskyist. That will never happen.

They will never debate me.

Look, you know what the problem

with these space debates are that I don't

want to do them?

When I first started doing Twitter spaces in 2022, everybody thought they were going to come on and like own me.

And they realized like I was literally beating the shit out of everyone so no one does it anymore.

And the leftists that do join the spaces occasionally are 50% fans like you need to understand that there's no leftist pan leftist haters that will ever interact with me in any live setting at all. If they interact with me, at least 25% of them likes me already.

But no one who hates me will ever interact with me in a live setting because they know

what's going to happen, because I'm going to dismantle the irrational source of hatred that they have for me.

And they're going to realize, like, they have no leg to stand on.

They have no ground to stand on.

They literally have no leg to stand on.

Like, what are they going to say, you know?

And many of them like me secretly.

That's another huge thing.

Many of them like me in private,

but are too scared to come out in public about it because, uh, you know, it's, look, I'm not trying to be abliest. Actually, I don't recognize ablyism is a real thing, but I don't mean to offend, but autistic people dominate the pan-leftists.

Like, they own it.

Everyone is, like, in private, very different than in public because they're trying to dodge

the autistic overlords

who just hound the fuck out of everyone who just doesn't fall in line

everyone it's literally everyone's like metal gear solid snake hiding under boxes

hiding from autistic people that That's the truth.

Join Nikki's space.

Nikki,

Nikki, can I ask you a question?

Why did you make up a tweet?

Not a tweet.

What's her

Twitter

Nikki the Hegelian

why did you

fabricate a discord

that poor guy Welsh

Welsh Republic

why did you do that

for what reason

um Republic. Why did you do that? For what reason? Um, I don't like that. That guy can't catch a break, all right? He already made some really bad mistakes on Instagram.

Uh...

And now he's being...

Oh!

What?

No! I don't deserve this.

Smudley! there's our dark money

smudley what the hell man

wow

wow

just got to say

wow I am at a loss for words.

Do you know Mchomsky.

I'll take Khan to 100.

Thank you, Shrell, Stani.

But, yo,

I literally just got

bombed in a really good way.

You know what I said?

If Putin wants to drop the nukes,

he has my permission, i'll gladly accept them for the purpose of advancing multipolarity smudley just dropped a nuke on the stream

but in an in a positive way.

Well, the other way is also positive,

but you get what I'm saying.

In a way, that's positive, far more.

Smuddly, wow.

There's our dark money, guys. there's our secret financiers um wow we are definitely going to deliver some content tonight.

Let's join Nikki's space.

This is Sarah's space.

Well, let's join it.

Agent.

Not Linda.

Lily, yeah, my bad, my bad.

Linda's a different way. Yeah, I thought we were going to give Nikki a chance. Yeah, yeah, my bad, my bad. Linda's a different thing.

Yeah, I thought we were going to give

Nikki a chance.

I like Lidlis.

I like Linda, but I don't

like Lily.

But the Nick...

Yeah, Lily.

We like Lindy.

We like Linda, right?

You get her 23

and me, and she's like 5%

blacks. She got to pass.

Oh, good for her.

I don't like people who are just

trying to learn.

Like, fuck off with you just trying to learn.

I just sent Haas this space, so he might be joining.

Hello, Nikki.

He's literally here.

Oh, is he's here already?

Haas, come out.

Yeah, we already.

Hot Santa or Hoh, shit.

Get him in.

I'm just like totally just here trying to learn.

Whoever's here trying to learn. Whoever's here trying to learn

remove them from the... Okay, if you want to learn,

hey kids, just say no to drug.

Don't get high like flipper.

Of course.

Like, I'm just totally unbiased, and I'm just trying to learn.

I can't join. I'm just totally unbiased and I'm just trying to learn. I like flames.

I like planes, guys.

I want to learn something.

Listen, fake dodo guy.

Listen, sheriff, a very pleasant surprise to see you popping up from your

buzzhole here to here.

Couldn't join.

I literally kept clicking a button and can't do it.

Uh,

kept trying to click

the thing and I just can't do it.

And also, I don't know any of those people, except Sarah.

Anyway, host.

I can't.

I literally couldn't join.

It's not that they were talking.

I just couldn't join.

Like, I literally had the button.

It said, join his speaker.

I kept clicking it.

Nothing would happen.

Host, I don't know what leg to stand on i mean what am i

going to what do i do declare war against india the only thing i could do to guarantee content is to

make a troll space declaring war on india again just for the. That's just guaranteed numbers. There will be

numbers if I do that. But I don't really have much to say is the problem. I just know that will

definitely get attention.

Anyway, talk about the China border conflict.

I don't think I should because they're literally fighting with like sticks and swords.

Meaning I think they, there's nothing I could do to like, you know, they're not really, they're trying to sort it out amongst themselves.

I don't know.

They say come back.

I'll try.

Start speaking.

Okay, look, I've clicking it.

Start speaking.

Join his speaker directly.

I fucking can't.

Ah, this is just so fucking, like, disastrous.

Start speaking.

All right, how about

Start listening?

Ladies, like,

like Nikki, Bella.

No alpha males

like those surface

tragus, like those surface, um, piercings.

We do like them.

Why would any girl, why would you have a few women?

Your ears and your nose, honestly.

Yeah, lobe, lobe's fine, but upper lobe, honestly. Yeah.

Lobe's fine, but upper lobe is weird.

I don't want 64 virgins when I die.

I am clicking it. I can't join.

Yes.

I can't join as a speaker. I literally can't.

All I could do is join as a listener.

And that's all I could do.

Um, and I don't know if that space was my, uh, was for me. Let's look at, I know everyone hates Zolo because they're an anime heretic.

It's so insufferable, but they made a video that might be content to react to.

Let's check it out. Yeah. What does this mean?

MLM.

Marxist, Mouist.

What does PM mean?

Peruvian?

What does that mean?

Pansexual?

Principally... I don't know what that fucking means.

I don't know what that fucking means i don't know what that means or anyway

what is this

haze when are you going on the hodge twins podcast

Altei what is up

wow

wow

wow wow

wow wow this is crazy that's why i'm selling them hats at cost not even gonna profit from

them it's gonna sell them at cost not even I'm going to make a dime on him. Probably make loss.

Wow, Alte.

What's going on, man?

Appreciate you.

What is this?

Gaddafi,

I like how their worst thing they could say about Gaddafi is like how their worst

thing they could say about Gaddafi

is that he's a religious fanatic

None of them were

Ant what?

What is that? What is that?

Isn't this a troll?

This is I approve

I definitely approve this

What is that What is that?

You know what I fucking hate?

People with these stupid-ass profile pictures with the sunglasses and the bend.

Dude, just shut up.

I got already hear this person.

Animal liberation.

Gavin.

This is what...

See,

we've come a long way from this to John Jackman. We've come a long way. We've come a long way from this to John Jackman.

We've come a long way.

We've come a long way.

Because this was the only thing in town before infrared.

Now there's a whole new generation.

We've come a long way, guys.

Music generation. We've come a long way, guys. Actually, what?

Only fans...

All sex is exploitative.

What? What? why does he end it with join the revolution

join the revolution just by not having sex

then you join the revolution that's a lot of people

he's making it seem like it's like join the party

like it's a big whole

like it's a big rave it's a big party

going on just by abstaining

you know Just by abstaining.

Jesus Christ.

Is this real?

This is really bad.

Speaking of Chomsky, everyone thought he was dead today, but he's not.

So that's just like not even news.

I mean, why did I even mention it?

Yeah, everyone thought he died, but he didn't.

So Chomsky's still alive i still don't care though This is not bad. This is not bad.

RIP to a real one.

Yeah, I agree.

I don't mind this.

I agree with this.

Part two coming soon.

Well, I mean, that was definitely a video.

That was definitely a video that I have watched.

I love this. Now this is something we love to see. This is

North...

This is DPRK in Russia.

This is Putin.

These are Russian flags.

This is so fucking cool.

You know what's weird how there's these like pan...

There's weird, like, pan leftists who support the DPRK because they think that

the DPRK is anti-R-R-K, and then this is the DPRK waving Russian flags and showing Putin.

Isn't that so weird how they, like, think the DPRK is like represents

their values or something.

So strange.

It's like only like look why tell me what deformed malformed freak is the like how did we get to a point of people with Ukraine Ukraine and DPRK flags in their bio.

I've seen it.

Tell me how that works.

What mentality is that?

I don't know what mentality it is, but I find it disturbing and it needs to be shut down.

Okay.

Join MySpace on why communists should support a Trump victory.

Yeah, but you better be straight to the point.

And let me see if it works because the browser is not really working. I don't want to have to the point. And let me see if it works, because the browser is not really

working. I don't want to have to

load up stupid-ass

blue stacks.

I just wish it

would work. Let me find... I can't

find anyone anyone space. Thank you. This is such good news

i love this this this is the Putin I love man Putin is cementing himself to be a very based

gotta love it

love to see it See, they all love him because he had balls to defy the whole Western world.

Apparently, Nikki's got a new space. Let's see if this one works. Start listening.

What is this

what is this I need to be invited

to speak.

I don't know what this is.

Yeah. I don't know what this is. As you guys can see, I'm trying to... can't join

just doesn't work

can you come up

communists and George

Trump victory in 2024

I can't join

I literally can't join

well 24. I can't join. I literally can't join.

What up, Nikki?

What's up? Is it working for a hostage?

Oh, wait. Can I do you host?

Yeah, I sent a co-host invite and also a speaker invite.

It might be because he's on browser.

Damn browser users.

Yeah, it's not worth. Let's try to get him up, though.

Oh, boy.

Israel's losing the war against Lebanon.

That's going to be fun.

All right.

Here's what we're going to do.

We're just going to do blue stacks.

I have no choice at this point.

I didn't want to have to do this.

I really hate blue stacks a lot. I didn't want to have to do this. I really hate Blue Stacks a lot.

But I don't have a choice.

4% loading.

App player.

Let's just go there

yeah we're going to have to use blue stacks

that piece of shit garbage app

all right

I'll be joining

shortly I mean I know this will work, at least.

But it's just not going to be a great time.

Don't have me logged out of Twitter.

I was logged out.

Fuck.

Wow, this is so fucked. Shit.

Give me a second.

Got to log in.

Don't you guys love that?

Got to log in wrong Wrong. Thank you. Weird accounts like Israel plus China and Ukraine plus DPRK.

Weird muddy water siop. Or are there people actually that dumb? Seems sus. God! and Thank you. I know what the problem is. Thank you. Fuck.

Yeah, this is so fucked.

This is really bad.

You know what? Yeah.

This is stupid.

All right. Alright. Here goes nothing. Shit.

Fuck, it's so fucking broken. Shit.

Fuck, it's so fucking broken.

It's really broken.

Like, I don't know what to do.

I don't know what to do. Wow.

Yeah, this is cooked.

This is cooked.

I can't log into blue stacks.

Just put that into perspective.

Can't log into blue stacks.

I fucking hate this app.

You know, I hate this fucking piece of shit app.

A lot.

A lot.

Yeah, this app is the most disgusting piece of shit app in the history of the world.

I mean that. I have never, ever been more disgusted, and I have never had as much hatred for any app in human history as this app.

Nah, there is one thing I can do.

There is one thing I can do. There is one thing I can do Thank you. okay all right i have something that i can do this is the last thing i'm going to do, and if this doesn't work, the stream is over.

But I think this will work.

Fuck, what a disaster. literally fuck blue stacks though like actually fuck blue stacks it is genuinely a piece of shit and I hate

anyone who defends it. Thank you. all right it worked

it worked

it worked

it worked

I'll join the space It worked.

I'll join the space. Hello, can everyone hear me? Can everyone hear me?

It worked.

Can everyone hear me perfectly, though?

Yes.

Yes, she's coming right.

All right. All right.

So what's going on?

I was wanting to debate you about to endorse in

2024.

All right. What's your you about to endorsing Trump in 2024.

All right.

What's your... Go ahead.

Yeah.

So, you know, when it comes to Trump, I mean, you know, obviously I don't really endorse

Trump as a person or as a politician, but you know, in terms of his

victory in the election, I think there's something that is worth paying attention to

called the Trump Wildcard Factor, which is essentially that, you know, there's a 10 to 20 percent chance that Trump

embraces a multipolar foreign policy, which is 10 to 20 percent greater than any other presidential

candidate in, you know, modern history.

And at least he's not guilty of a genocide as well.

I mean, it just would be better for him.

Why do you think there's a relationship between candidates that people like you and I endorse and their

actual prospects to win.

Why do you think, why do you assume

that there's even a

any relation, indirect

or direct there? Because I don't

think there is. I don't think it matters. I don't think there's any effect me endorsing Trump that exists, except compromising my own integrity in terms of whatever political project I want to be involved in in the future.

I can't affect the outcome of the election at all. There's nothing I could do to affect it. But I can shape my own future politically and my own record. And I mean,

we're trying to build the Communist Party, you know, all that me endorsing Trump would do is compromise my integrity on that record

and why would I want to do that?

Oh no, I was just saying, I just think in terms,

I would just support a Trump victory over anything else.

Right, but even think about that.

Like, what do you mean support? Like, what do you mean?

I mean, like, in terms of, you know, a Trump victory would essentially signify that a felon, a convicted felon, has more to offer to the America than any establishment hack or scum has to offer to America.

My problem with that is what you're saying is basically it would make you happy because it signifies something about reality.

But if you're not already confident about the nature of reality right now, practically speaking, like, why are you waiting for Trump to come and put a smile on your face?

It tells me you don't have a clear understanding of reality

or one that is

clear enough to inspire you into any kind of

political outlook. Like,

you're saying, okay, if Trump won,

that would make me happier. But it's like,

shouldn't actually building a new political alternative be what makes you happy?

Who cares if Trump wins or he doesn't win what i care about is if joe sims wins no you're you're a hundred percent spot on i i just think that you know

there's when it comes to uh when it comes to, uh, when it comes to Trump, and I, I mean, I'm not super strong on this argument, but I, I just wanted to do devil's advocate to hear your thoughts. But definitely, uh, in terms of, uh, you know, like building a new political project is 100% better.

But, you know, Trump, you know, I think he has a 10 to 20% chance at, you know, lashing out against the unipolar forces in foreign policy, which I don't, I think it's very unlikely that he...

Let me ask you something, because me and Jackson talk about this all the time.

Why are you putting it... Where is the 10 or 20 coming from?

It comes from his... the fact that he's an emotional you know uh politician so he could act

as marxas you shouldn't give any weight to individuals. Who is he surrounding himself with?

Is there any faction among the people he's surrounding himself with that would open that as a possibility?

I don't see them. I don't see them. I mean, in 2016 it was more ambiguous, but this time around, I see, I don't see them. I mean, in 2016, it was more ambiguous, but this time around, I don't see anyone in Trump's circle, his inner circle, his people.

Talking about, like, when I say his people, I mean, when he gets elected, he's going to put people in his cabinet.

Who among the potential people he's going to put in his cabinet would represent that view?

I don't see it.

Oh, no, you're 100% spot on.

Like I said, I was just kind of playing devil's advocate.

I wanted to hear some of your thoughts, but, no, I was just kind of playing devil's advocate. I wanted to hear some of your

thoughts, but no, I appreciate

that for sure.

No problem.

Really enjoyed the RT

today as well.

If we want to pivot towards talking

about Lebanon at all, I think that could be interesting.

I mean, to be honest, there's not much to talk about.

You know, if you've read the news, that's the news.

I mean, I don't have breaking news to offer besides the breaking news that the you know they there's offensive that just got

approved into south Lebanon we'll see if it goes through if it it does, it's a regional war 100%.

But there's really not, I don't see much more news besides that on that front.

Yeah, it's just when it comes to Israel, I think that people are really underplaying and downplaying.

The fact that, you know,rael's really been losing this war they

haven't done a successful hostage rescued to date they needed u.s special forces to do that one

operation a few weeks ago they're getting their ass kicked in the north by uh the boys in yellow

in south lebanon and uh but you know what i don't want to do a news i don't want to by the Boys in Yellow in South Lebanon.

But you know what? I don't want to do a news space. I'm already falling asleep. Like, I've already read the news. I know what the news is. I'm not doing, I mean, I wouldn't do a Twitter space

to do the news. I would just do it on my stream. Anyway, let's bring

up some actual ops,

Nikki. Let's bring up some like people who

dislike me. Because

I always want to give people an opportunity

to lash out

and give, you know,

people have so much feelings toward me. And I want to give them the ability

to, you know, to basically lash out and, you know, be the dad in their life that isn't in their life, and they can yell at their dad.

So let's give people that opportunity.

Sure. So anyone who wants to debate Haas, please feel free to request.

I'll make sure to shit.

Someone said Janus appears.

That is so.

Janus Verifakis sees me as like a father figure

he's angry at.

I don't know about that.

There have been

there

have been

there have been

five or six

neo-Nazi bots

spamming a couple

infrared accounts

for the past few days

I think we've been assigned

a few of them

I'll send them a DM if they actually have the courage to stand on business.

I don't think you should DM them.

I think that we should have this be organic and just have people request.

I'm a co-host now so I can see requests, but no one's request. I'm a co-host now so I can see requests,

but no one's requesting, not even one person.

Yeah.

Everyone's a fan.

Yeah, everyone here likes me.

It's actually pretty...

Yeah, something I noticed is that... In the bottom.

Sorry?

I see one anime profile picture.

I'll invite them.

Yeah, that's fine.

You know, like, something I noticed is that

everyone who interacts with me

live in any way,

at least 25% likes me.

People who full-on haters

will never interact with me

in any live setting at all.

They just,

they have so much emotions toward me. They can't,

they can't be in the same VC as me without bursting into tears and getting emotional.

And it's very sad and I wish these people the most peace in their lives

but let's

I mean nobody's requesting

that's incredible

everyone here is just my friend I guess

uh yeah

anyway um Uh, yeah.

Anyway, um... Yeah, the right wingers, they don't, they're not interested.

They just...

They don't want to debate.

I've debated enough of them.

We've...

I say the same things over and over again.

They are unmoved by it because they find it very difficult to think about it.

It's really just a matter of thinking, I think.

Amir, what's going on?

Hey, how are you? Not too bad. I just

logged in, you know, you said

the haters never come on. So, and then

definitely I'm not a hater.

So I just want to

prove your,

prove your point correct.

You,

you're someone that I did kind of

listen to

for quite some time,

and I do like your position on Palestine quite a bit has.

Oh, well thank you. I appreciate it.

I myself, I'm actually an Iranian. I'm in Iranian. I'm in Iranian. I see myself as an anti-imperialist.

So I think a lot of sort of what you say and a lot of sort of what folks say around you certainly resonates with me.

Well, I'm always glad to hear it.

Thank you.

Appreciate it.

So there's a lot of drama always going on on the Twitter space scene, and I, I'm wondering

if I, is there any money to be made from that or what?

Because I feel like it's kind of just a waste of time, right?

Like Soleiman Ahmed is just like, I always hear he's in so much beef with all these people.

And I just think, but for free, you know, he's making what off of this?

Based on, there's so much like conspiratorial gossip and, you know, people, I don't get it.

I don't get it.

I, um, maybe maybe maybe we should explore that

explore that dimension

because I actually feel like I have a life

you know. I feel like the things I do matter

but there's a lot of people that

spend their time, Twitter space, drama stuff, and I just want to peek. You know, I haven't been in the space since so long, and I just want to see what it's all about.

So we know it's not for ad revenue

because people of his account size

make approximately $200 a month on ad revenue.

So we know it's not.

Yeah, I make, you know how much I make $30,

and I'm not even kidding.

I make $30 a I'm not even kidding.

I make $30 a month on ad revenue.

Literally 30.

Can you fucking believe that?

I make $30 on ad revenue per month.

I don't make anything from Twitter.

Literally nothing.

Why?

How is that fair? You know? I'm not even kidding. Twitter gives me a notification.

$28 has just been inserted in your account. I'm like, oh, well, thanks. I guess I pay for the checkmark.

But I'm super blacklisted by all these ad companies.

They'll never.

They don't want to put any of their ads under my tweets.

But, yeah, that's such a shame isn't it

everyone thinks something's like rich

and I am today because of smudley

gifting a hundred subs

but beyond that

not much going on on the money front

anyway uh horay what's going on

hello yeah what's up

um as swamp communists one of your guys i'm just curious nope that is a uh a big op i think

oh okay i mean like he appears along, like, guys like revin stuff.

Uh, well, I don't know what to say.

I mean, I don't see any of these people in the trenches.

I mean, they're on Twitter always complaining

about us. But whenever a

right winger is spreading lies about communism

or praising Hitler, I never see them

like responding to it.

I never see them pushing back on any of it.

I never see any of these on any of it. I never see

any of these people who have a problem

with the Maga Communists.

They are doing nothing

to counteract the tide

of Hitlerism and

the rehabilitation of Nazism and the

historical revisionism surrounding that.

They do nothing.

All they do is spend their time attacking us

who are actually the only people pushing back on the actual

Nazism.

So this is why we call them fascist collaborators

because it's what they are.

Anyway, um that all you wanted to say or what?

I wanted your input because the swamp communist guy has been like arguing

with like someone else

or I guess like

swamp communist

thinks that I'm very familiar

with the Chicano movement

huh

the Chicano movement. Huh? The Chicano movement?

Yeah, what's going on with these movements?

Well, the Swamp Communists has that the Chicano movement

as a National Liberation Movement.

And this other guy, I don't know his name off the top of my head he just

says that it's it's like mexican settlerism yeah i i don't know i feel like there's a lot of larping

going on i mean like when we talk about national

liberation, I mean, what are we talking about, you know? Like, what, what, what, what is meant?

Are we talking about, like, a formal occupation where, that's going on? Because I've tried to

make the argument that popular sovereignty is gone in America

and that, you know, the country is occupied because the previous form of popular sovereignty was usurped

and we're in this situation where, you know, we don't have national self-determination.

And there's just, it's like what Stalin said.

There's basically a click of imperialist financiers that just totally have usurped any semblance, even of bourgeois democracy.

So, like, I feel like that's a very

concrete position, though, because you look at the fact that our government is in so much debt,

you look at not just the fact that the politicians are bought out, but all these unconstitutional

legislation that's getting passed as of recent, the Patriot Act and much, much more, the rise of unconstitutional federal agencies.

So like when I talk about liberation, I feel like I'm talking on something very concrete.

But when pan-leftists are talking about liberation, it seems like they're talking about

liberation from emotional grievances or discrimination or unhappiness.

And I kind of see that more as a self-help or self-fulfillment kind of culture and not actual like a actual liberation.

I don't like these terms like indigenous liberation. What do you mean by that concretely? I would love for someone to tell me what they mean by that. And if they mean, because here's the thing, if you're talking about concrete liberation in America

of anyone,

you cannot make that something

separate from the liberation

of the American people

in general. Now that

can involve

the particulars, of course. It can evolve and redress the grievances of different ethnic groups in this country. But there is no way to make it something separate.

Diego is here, actually.

So I have to say something.

Diego, I was scheduled to talk to him, but I was such an idiot.

I don't know what.

I was on RT, and it was just like it went on so

long. I ended up being late and

I basically ruined it.

But Diego is

someone I wanted to talk

to for a very long time and

Hey man, what's up? Hey, what's up?

Oh, good, man. Again, even though we haven't been able to connect formally it's nice to be able to talk to you guys oh appreciate it man it's an honor to have you and

Diego I saw met Maduro and spoke with him. Yeah.

That is so cool.

That is just so cool.

Yeah, yeah. I've been going to Venezuela for the last four years and I finally got the opportunity to interview him and the interview went so well that I got another second chance.

So we did one interview on a Friday where he interviewed me about political materialism,

and then I interview him on Monday.

That is beautiful.

Speaking of Venezuela, I don't know if I can spoil this, but I'll just, fuck it, I'll just spoil it. Jackson and I are planning a trip there,

formal trip,

so not just a vacation,

but an actual formal trip.

I don't,

I don't,

I don't think there's anything as big as what you,

the interview landed.

I don't expect that.

Certainly not for myself,

but we definitely have

plans.

We were invited.

But I don't want to spoil too much, because I really don't know how much I can say, but I don't want to spoil too much

because I really don't know how much I can say, but

I think I can just say that.

Yeah, so this summer as well.

If there's anything I can do for you guys

over there, let me know. I mean, I know a lot of

people. I've been there a lot of time, so

anything, let me know. Wow, thank you so much, people. I've been there a lot of time. So anything, let me know.

Wow, thank you so much, man.

I actually really appreciate that.

And on the topic, if you don't mind, I wanted to comment a little bit about these indigenous movements.

And one thing I think it's important for listeners to keep in mind is that in a way the logic of neoliberalism

and the liberal logic is the logic of atomization and fragmentation. And in a way, what has been

happening in several fronts, macro and micro fronts, is that for capital to perpetuate

itself as a logic, it has to tear down

whatever holds resistance

to the logic of capital as an enemy

itself. So on a macro level

is everything related to geopolitics,

sovereignty of nation states,

the development of productive forces, and of course the

cohesiveness of values, society, language, culture, whatnot. And on the micro level, we can feel this by the

predominance of individual logic over the logic of

collective feelings and

intersubjective necessities, let's say,

in order not to choose too complicated language.

So when we talk about these indigenous movements,

we have to be very much aware that at the same time,

they are

exploited because of their position

in relationship to the means of production,

but at the same time, indigenous movements

can be co-opted by the logic

of capital to tear down national

sovereignties. And this is especially

fragile in South America.

So we have to be very, very careful when handling those topics specifically because they

tend to behave as a double-edged sword.

Yes, I've observed that.

I mean, I think this person was alluding to a big debate happening where you're from

Mexico correct I'm I'm originally from Brazil but I'm currently living in Mexico yes because

there's many these bizarre pan leftists in and this is what I call them, pan-leftists in the U.S., who basically claimed that Mexico is an illegitimate state and that it's stolen land from the indigenous people and that basically

Mexico must be balkanized along you know along ethnic indigenous lines or something and and you

know what a what a what a silver platter that would deliver to the financial elites

of the world. What a

gift that would be to the imperialists

to destroy one of the

strongest sovereign nations

in Latin America

and under the banner of this

kind of leftist nonsense.

Exactly, that's the problem.

And it's the same conversation

that was had in Switzerland this weekend.

I think it was the president of Poland

that he mentioned that

the wet dream of NATO right now is to

balkanize Russia into 200

separate spaces

with different ethnicities.

So again, this is thus the neoliberal

logic being applied in

geopolitic violence

or the use of aggression.

The smaller the state, the less sovereignty they have and the less ability they have to protect themselves from aggression, especially if it's a non-nuclear nation.

That's why we have to be so much aware of the importance of coming up with new geopolitical blocks for the future,

especially when talking about Latin America, which is my goal at the moment to unify intentions

in the region in Europe to be able to survive this moment of transition.

And I think this is one paramount topic for any other country that wants to survive this,

this period of time that we are, that is moving from a unipolar order to a multipolar order.

Yeah. And to add to what you're saying, there's an especially strong economic aspect to the neoliberal tendency to Balkanization, which is because Balkanization also increases dependency on financial capital, foreign financial capital, and usury.

Whereas regional integration and, you know, this kind of big states, more or less, to be vulgar, they have more

sovereignly integrated supply chains

which permit an ability to basically

engage in independent economic

or relatively more independent economic development that gives them more leverage in relation to these international creditors.

It decreases dependency upon them.

It allows them to build their productive forces with more kind of, with more ease, with less reliance.

It allows them to build their own capital, so to speak, from scratch.

Balkanization introduces the necessity of financial institutions that mediate relationships between states for the purposes of trade and acquiring the necessary raw materials.

So, for example, in China, China's dealings with Africa, Africa has resources that China needs.

And this is why China has had to kind of develop alternative and new financial institutions to mediate that trade relationship.

But imagine for a moment that China was balkanized,

and that China's supply chains were even less national and less integrated than they are now,

and there would have to be all these different states within what is today's China that in order to trade and interact with each other, that would have to be financially mediated somehow by financial institutions.

The only way you can build your own independent financial institutions because the financial institutions are part of a world financial system, part of the hegemony, is you need to create that raw capital, industrial from scratch and that requires regional integration

that requires a state at the scale of you know like the ussr or today's russia or china and the

smaller the state is the more dependent it is on these kind of financial abstractions, just to have access to the necessary resources and goods to have any part of this global supply chain at all. Yeah. Yeah, I agree absolutely. And you can see

this, for example, that then after that, if you fall into the balkanization trap, they will

instrumentalize your balkanization by using they will instrumentalize your balkanization

by using the fact that the

World Division of Labor already happened.

So you can be very easily isolated

if you don't play along with

the rhythm of the FMI.

This is the example of Venezuela.

This is the example of Cuba. And the example of most countries that try to apply an alternative political model to liberalism, they were heavily punished.

And because they were isolated, the punishment was unsurvivable.

So what happened historically is that they use these countries that try to step away from the liberal and the modern ideology of capital and try to apply a different political ideology.

And they were used as an example to the world of the failure

of trying to escape this nightmare ideology. So this is the perpetuation of Tina. You know, when Margaret

Thatcher assert there is no alternative, is that we have to suffer capitalism because we know in a way.

And then again, hegemonic ideology is synonymous with common sense for the gorillas and the common man in using social media, you know, the typical guy.

So you cannot escape ideology because you have only not

being taught that hegemonic ideology

is common sense, but also

any attempt to get away from it

is like 300,000%

inflation and you know like

starvation and poverty. And this

has all been manufactured.

In a way, these countries that

were isolated, Balkanized, and just like

has explained, they were left alone

and not able to survive the sanctions,

they are now used as examples

of the cost of stepping away

from liberalism.

So in the end, this is why you have to be very much aware of these dangers.

And I think not only indigenousism, not only this notion that, you know, we have to return the land to the original owners, which again is natural law,

instead of positive law.

I think there's a lot of ontological inconsistency

in most Marxist thinkers,

especially online.

I mean, it's not even fair to call them Marxist thinkers,

but one of the main inconsistencies, the most common inconsistencies that I see, is that people tend to think with a liberal ontological framework to talk about geopolitics. So you can never really address materialist politics with a liberal ontology.

And, you know, people use natural law, they use individual free will, they use reason over material determination, and that will always end up in the same ideological traps and people will not be able to escape them.

And these on the fringe topic conversations, you know, identity politics, indigenousism, natural loss, will always end up falling into the trap and giving into the logic

of capital.

Yeah, absolutely. I couldn't agree more.

And, you know, just to briefly add,

it really comes down to this kind of

and this is kind of touching

upon some future projects,

some future work.

Spoiler, it's a book coming up.

Which is the neglected

realm of political philosophy within

Marxism historically.

And not that it was

neglected in practice.

I mean, the political outlook of Lenin, Stalin, and Mao was very refined.

It was very much rich with wisdom.

But it was never formally translated fully into the language of Marxism.

And

you know, the square one

I would say, just to add to what

you'd say, is like, the premise

we begin with, which is this notion that

societies and civilizations are notion that societies

and civilizations

are just abstractions

and the real tangible

existence is that of the individual

and all of the

kind of ontological assumptions

that come with that and the kind of metaphysical commitments,

that is, I think, a great place to start, the question of, I mean, what definite existence does a society actually have?

Not just in terms of relations between people. existence does a society actually have, not just

in terms of relations between

people

and the kind of

the Marxists will talk about the preeminence

of relations before the

actual things

suspended in the relations, the individuals, but something more concrete.

Like, what is a social whole, you know, a concrete, definite, you can even say a state, right?

I mean, the notion of a state doesn't necessarily, it's not as loaded as it has come to mean today. It's the state of things, right? The state of a society, the state of a given history. And that is formalized in actual political states states but as far as the real thing is concerned

what what are the what necessary kind of ontological questions need to be raised and posed in order to

understand that and I think that's

something very

very pertinent

for Marxism.

So if I may, I think you're spot on

on the comment has. Because I think

the way I pinpointed right now is that my main enemy is

scatological idealism in politics okay and I think there's a lot of scatological idealism

even in current Marxist thinkers because for me the basis of Marxist think. Because for me, the basis

of Marxist thinker is

the relationship between material

basis and idealistic superstructure.

If we keep, at least to

this dialectical core from Marxism,

which is the true inversion of Hegel,

you know, the true inversion saying that, no, it's not the geist that acts as the absolute spirit

in human action as the idea of freedom materializing itself through history.

Is the inversion of that, is that material condition is what gives birth to ideological superstructures.

And the notion of the nation state, culture, moral values, right or wrong, these are just

idealistic superstructures that come out, that emerge out of material relationships.

You know, at the moment, I'm doing my postgraduate

in post-structuralism

and critical theory.

And even though critical theory is highly

debatable, I'm more interested into

a materialistic theory of language.

So how

concepts create

a certain level of stability through time

and the relationship between the formation

of concepts and the use of

language and how language

necessitates or has

pre-existing causes, a priori causes, material causes, that give stability to concepts.

People tend to forget, but the notion of states is quite recent. I mean, we have been with the

notion of states for a couple of hundred years, not more than that. And potentially, it's a notion that will eventually merge out as well.

But it all depends on the material conditions necessary for the use and the concept of nation state to emerge.

And what will eventually dialectically overcome the need for a concept of

nation state is the change of material

conditions. So it's important for us to

understand that language itself

even though it's a

as a dairy die

explanation is a self-containing game that

is constantly relating back to itself.

There is nothing outside the text.

But then again, we have to think that language

is just alive as much as material conditions

permitted to evolve.

So my fight is still against

this notion of scatological

idealism within Marxist thinkers.

This is what I hate the most. Like, I cannot

stand Marxists that think

ideally, you know, like, either

utopical thinker or theological

notion of history. Like, we have to go back to the material basis.

And then the dialectical relationship between those material bases and how they produce the ideological superstructures.

The fight has to be fought in the material arena, not in the ideological arena.

Very interesting, you know, and we can go on for hours. I have a lot to say about the question of material. By the way, just a quick one. Do you, are you familiar with Batai? Yes, of course.

And, and, because you mentioned scatological idealism. I don't know if there's a relation to that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm a big fan of Batel. His notion of the exclusion is very

important for us to take in

consideration Batel when

being self-critical. I mean

we always tend to exclude

that which is negated and then the

negated come back to symptom and then we can talk about

Hagle, Lacan, but Batal nails the nails in the head.

It's like, yes, it's like, but also I like about Batai is this kind of notion of, I don't agree

with it, but I think it's a necessary step on the journey to materialism from idealism, which is this kind of notion of the base materialism.

That for thought to be oriented toward what is material, There's something about the integrity of the ideal that needs to be effaced, right? And kind of delivered to the kind of vulgarity and so I mean not directly of course

but Ty likes to put this in direct

terms but very pornographic

exactly yeah

but uh I think that there's

something there which is this kind of

the orientation of thought

toward its own contrary toward its opposite.

Another thinker that does this is, of course, Ilyenkoff, right?

And his view that the kind of high point of the communist consciousness for humanity

is this kind of

cosmic scale

self-destruction.

And I think that's

it's

it's follow obeys the same logic

you know.

Yeah.

But yeah, beyond that

I

we definitely should have a kind of more formal uh long scale talk

sometime you know yeah absolutely man the invitation is still up I'm just I couldn't tell you at the moment, but I couldn't organize the schedule with you because I was just like depending on the agenda of President Maduro.

So it was kind of hard for me to formalize a date.

But now I'm probably going to be more free.

I'm actually going to Venezuela again from the 26 to the 30 of June,

but then after that it will be awesome if we can schedule talk. You can come to my channel anytime.

Oh, thank you so much. That'd be excellent. Sounds good.

For sure. So yeah, I'm going to let someone else speak so i don't uh monopolize the time a big regard

guys be sure thank you so much it's a pleasure um so so uh did someone who else wanted to speak

someone named shirif what's going on?

Hey, what's up?

No, I didn't want to speak.

I was just listening.

Mo, what's going on?

Hey, what's up, guys?

A couple of familiar faces here.

Thank you for allowing me to speak.

I kind of had a, just a general question, but surprisingly, well, not surprisingly,

Haas and Diego, you guys really touched on it. It was essentially the question of how neoliberalism can backslide into

fascism, but you guys pretty much

covered that. But on a more specific point,

how does like these neoliberal policies

in terms of the like responsibility

to protect, you know, that sort of ideology.

How does that fit into this neoliberalist structure of the West and clearly how that's affecting the Middle East and particularly?

Can you guys speak on that a bit if you don't mind?

Sorry, when you, you're talking about the kind of enforcement of international human rights or whatever.

Exactly.

Yep.

Well, I mean, I think that it was always a kind of almost cynical barefaced deception.

I mean, it was an excuse to circumvent the sovereignty of nations unaligned or insufficiently aligned with the U.S. global principally financial system.

And it's, you know, obviously the selectiveness of that, the hypocrisy and selectiveness of that notion is very much on display in recent events in Gaza. But I've always viewed it purely. I mean, I guess you can kind of maybe explore the depth of the neoliberal ideology and see how it's square. But I think it's very superficial. I think it's so superficial that it could be on a commercial, right, as far as what they're trying to communicate with that with that

notion this view that you know there there there's a need for uh you know a world

police effectively a world government even if you will, to basically protect victims of malign

governments or, you know, other kinds of malign social forces. I think that that implies some kind of shared framework of human rights and so on and human values, which...

I mean, look, to put it this way, I don't just believe that there is a kind of deficiency or a breakdown of liberal human rights in Gaza.

I think we are being confronted with the reality of liberal human rights in terms of what is necessary to maintain the global hegemony

which justifies itself on the basis of human rights of course but materially speaking

what the zinists are doing is maintaining is doing what's necessary to maintain that hegemony.

I mean, think about it.

If there's no Israel, then you have a regionally integrated Middle East.

You have a super state that is probably going to form which is going to challenge

the hegemony of the so-called you know protectors of the free world in the world at large

in human rights in order to maintain the very same hegemony that justifies itself on the basis of universal human rights,

the killing and the slaughter and the destruction of people, as in the people of Gaza, is what is necessary.

So it's fully on display

the reality of human rights,

I think. And this has been ongoing

how it's not just Gaza, right? It's been

decades of this shit. Of course, yeah.

I mean, you don't even need to mention

Iraq and Libya and so on

and so on.

Now, I think even need to mention Iraq and Libya and so on and so on.

Libya was... I was just going to say Libya is

one of the only cases where R2P has

ever been actually used by

the United States and look what R2P

did to Libya.

Yeah. Anyway,

I think there's a Groyper here

named Applesauce. So go ahead,

Apple sauce. Let's go.

Yo, what's up? I'm just

catching the conversation, so I'm still

working on that. Yeah, I... Another Groyper, so I'm still working on that.

Yeah, I'm another Groyper too, Ace, actually.

You can go for it?

Well, can you just start off with a Groyper argument?

If we just want to, like, start it off.

Go ahead.

An argument.

Well, I had like an unrelated question. I like you guys. We were talking about you at our

conference, our last day of our Detroit trip. Ours got canceled. I think you guys had a had an easier time.

So kudos to you for pulling it off. We had too many racist people pull up.

I wanted to ask cause about the Hollywood blacklist. I don't know if that's going to derail everything, but just to get your perspective on it, because the communist side of the industry kind of gets a one-sided story.

And maybe some people here are more curious about the philosophy of communism,

but I kind of like the pop culture side of it.

So I was curious if you ever got into that, like, intellectually or the association.

You're talking about the McCarthy era, Hollywood blackless?

Yes.

I mean, to be honest,

I don't see much in it.

I think that

it seems like

that communists

were able to

be more or less much more tolerated under Roosevelt, not just because of the war, but for other reasons as well. And there was a context in American history in which that wasn't a taboo outlook.

And then at the onset of the Cold War, it becomes taboo.

And then many of the people who were sympathetic tangentially to the labor movement and to socialism and communism basically started getting removed from the institutions of society or what do you think is the alternative explanation oh well you know i'm right wing so like I see that as, like, cultural subversion.

But, no, I can understand, like, from,

I guess in the entertainment industry,

the standards are a bit different.

It's not exactly. I guess the Cold War politics

kind of strangles any political

identity. So, yeah, I guess it's, like, a

violation of free speech or whatever.

I, you know,

if you've ever read James Elroy, he

kind of lampoons this idea of

like communist infiltrating Hollywood

to, you know, take over the

consciousness and

media. I don't know if that's really totally true

maybe today I would see that more so with neoliberalism

can I comment on that?

Sure sure

yeah so I think

what is what is interesting is that

again you see this is this is the liberal

ontological point of view trying to explain reality.

And what it clashes with is the pertinence of the logic of the system itself, man.

I mean, if you think, if you start a priori by thinking we are free agent acting upon the world and materializing our necessities on the action that we assert on, on materiality, then yes, you will explain it from the intention of individuals acting upon the world. But it's much more simpler than that.

There's no master evil plan behind it all.

I can tell you I've been next to probably the most important Max Marces alive.

And the logic of capital is very subtle.

It's subtle in the sense that, you know, there's sponsors and sponsors want to make money.

And the way money works, it has a certain implications behind the operations and happenings of money.

And money will not go against itself.

So it's very simple.

You end up being filtered out,

but this is a very, very subtle filtering.

I think like the A-lister's that you listen about,

they probably made too much noise

and they were like triggering other people

and working on class consciousness and whatever even i'm not even sure

that works anymore but but then again you get filtered out by very simple very subtle mechanisms

if you're interesting in this topic i i will recommend the reading of a text by gilles jill de luss

called the Societies

of Control.

And there's a sub-branch

of philosophy called

Kubernetes, is the philosophy of system,

the cybernetic thinking

and self-regulating of

logical systems.

And when you explain capital as a system that operates via human behavior,

it's materiality, is human relationships acting on the wheel of people,

then you start to like re-understanding the wheel of people, then you

start to like re-understanding

the logic of capital through another lens.

It's just to add you an extra point of view

to your notion

as a refreshing reminder, let's say.

And one more thing, I just

very briefly.

You know, if there was communists in Hollywood, I don't think it was subversion in the sense of like, you know, oh, they're trying to poison our culture.

Because here's an example of a movie that was,

that hired writers who bypassed that blacklist,

and it was Stanley Kubrick Spartacus in 1960.

And if you go and watch that movie,

I mean, what about that movie is kind of expressing values contrary to a healthy

society? It's expressing values of defiance against tyranny and literally slavery and so on and so on.

And I think it's very important. tyranny and literally slavery and so on and so on.

And I think it's very important,

whatever extent of communists were in Hollywood in the 50s and 60s,

their influence had nothing to do with the kind of,

I don't know, woke, woke stuff that started coming into media in the past decade or whatever.

I mean, these guys had a kind of deep outlook, very much a lot of thought is going into it they were very convinced of it

I don't you know I'm not

a big Star Wars fan

I actually like the prequels a lot recently

but uh let's go we're back

man thank you but the

I know there's a new star wars thing

that has everybody very upset because it's about lesbians or something

well i would just say i don't think that has anything to do with uh the communists Hollywood in the 50s. I think that's something very, very different.

Man, it's totally capitalism. You know, progressism is capitalism. This is what people need to understand.

I agree.

It's like...

The logic of capital

is to tear down whatever barriers

negates the

perpetuation of capital as an end in itself.

You know, March said it.

You know, everything that is solid is going to melt into air.

The notion is that capital needs to tear down barriers. Progressism is profoundly aligned with capitalism. It's like even, you know, people, is why the problem with a woke paradigm of like, oh, wokeism is an ideology. What is it? It's like, look, it's not an ideology. Even if there was a extremely refined agenda to subvert American society culturally, it would be intelligent. This is not that. This is a blind,

soulless and thoughtless

kind of pandering

which fully obeys

the logic of capital

when people ask the question,

okay,

of just kind of ratings, it's soulless corporate nonsense. They're like, okay, well just kind of ratings, this

soulless corporate nonsense. They're like, okay, well,

why is it so unpopular then?

If they were truly interested in

kind of maximizing

their

revenues and whatever, wouldn't they want it

to actually be popular?

Well, even the ability to have a soulful attunedness with the tastes of the masses,

and even this ability to kind of have a deeper outlook and bigger vision, which resonates with some kind of meaningful values or whatever.

That is, as Diego points out, even that has to be melted and liquefied and deterioratorialized.

Even that is an obstacle to this kind of mechanical standardization.

It's much easier to just kind of put a fat lesbian as the lead character

than to have this kind of

you know

more I don't know

lofty or contemplative themes

which actually means something

it doesn't mean anything if you just have

a kind of fat lesbian or whatever,

but it definitely fulfills a quota. It definitely fulfills, you know, a corporate task, you know.

And this is why the systematic thinking is so helpful here.

Because if you try to analyze the one movie or one series as a product that is trying to maximize,

you know, added value within the P&L of the production itself, it will probably not make sense.

What you have to think is that progressism as a trend overall for the autopiesces of capital as a system,

pretending for his self-perpetuation,

progressism is much more

in line with that objective

than whatever conservative value.

That's why, like,

you have to think that as a global

system, as a meta mode of

production, capitalism

like the logic itself

organizes so this will

eventually lead to more

accumulative capital in the category

itself. Because if one movie

starts making money by promoting

past rituals, conservative values,

or whatever tries to sustain or restrict the growth of capital, even if that movie makes more

money because it appeals to a broader audience, it goes against the logic of capital.

So that's why you cannot make one

a systematic analysis of a product in itself.

You have to think of every product,

every commodity within the logic of capital

as a macro mode of production

that dominates a stage of human development.

Since we do have ACE here, who's like a part of the America Firsters, I did want to ask, you know, in terms, because the America First Movement, it calls itself a Christian movement.

You know, Haas, in terms of Maga Communism, do you think Maga Communism should take on a Christian or religious or Abrahamic character in the spirit of the founding fathers who weren't exclusively Christian they were also you know deists and and but that was

somewhat of a religious character to it or do you think it should be a secular or take on a secular character

uh sorry i caught some of that you're saying uh do i think it'll be secular or overtly religious not overtly religious but do you think it'll be secular or overtly religious?

Not overtly religious, but

do you think it should take on a

Christian or Abrahamic character

for macro-communism in America?

Like in the kind of the same way,

you know, some of the kind of...

I think in contrast to

in contrast to kind of

theocratic politics or liberal secularism

communism should be

should incorporate, it should be religious in a folkloric sense. It shouldn't shy away from a

religious language and religious rhetoric and the evocation of religious themes. Um, but it should

neither proceed from the conceit of some kind of religious doctrine according to which, you know, it establishes itself as a preeminent authority on religion.

It shouldn't say, you know, it shouldn't get involved in the dispute between the Mormons

and the Baptists and the Catholics and the Muslims and the Jews or whatever.

It should confine itself to a kind of folkloric, popular sensibility,

which focuses on the content of religious belief and not so much the kind of ecclesiastical

or ritual form, if that makes sense.

Yeah, for sure, because I mean, I think that, you know, at the end of the day, like the separation of church and state, it's a, it's a myth kind of thing that really only ensure, like this myth that's perpetuated in society, it really only ensures that the people who have power in liberal democracy, the people who have power in liberal democracies, they really only are the ones who have bad theologies.

So, you know, there shouldn't be this separation of church and state, which prevents people with good theology from having power.

Yeah. theology from having power. Yeah, again, the tricky thing about religion is that there's no, I mean, it's literally there, but it's very esoteric. And it's very easy

to confuse the

form with the content. And it's

easy for

to wield the authority

of a religious banner

without actually

having anything to do with the content it reports to be.

There's a reason there's religious feeling among the masses, but oftentimes this is just frankly abused.

And the conceit of being a religious authority in the sense of like oh this is the

correct theology this is the incorrect theology i mean i don't think there's any theology stronger

than praxis there's no theology stronger than praxis. There's no theology stronger than actual

political struggle and waging the struggle of the masses and the people. I don't think it's important

to dwell in kind of abstract theology, which veers, to be honest, it seems like, veers on the level of formalism and idealist philosophy, which I think is something separate from religion, as such.

I'd like to hear

the Groypers defend their position

in terms of being

Christians and saying that they have

the superior position here.

I'd like either Ace or any of the other Goypers to request and speak on that.

Yeah, like defending Catholicism in America.

Yep.

Yeah, well, you know, Gen Z being, having a lot of Hispanics in it.

So, you know, the meme is true.

There's a lot of Latin types in the movement.

And so I think just invariably you're going to get mostly Catholics, even though we're trying to be American nationalists.

We are kind of sidestepping the Protestant legacy.

But I just think that's just kind of natural.

It's part of the identity politics that we play.

I understand your guys' perspective on that.

That's kind of like playing into the hands of like ideology.

But I think it's just something that is like non-negotiable.

Obviously our approaches to topics like race and the people that run the country, I guess we come at it from a less

dialectical perspective, but we like to kind of embrace that identity politics strategy with

Catholicism and far-right types as our...

Even from a pragmatic perspective, though, what I consider very bizarre about the strategy isn't necessarily Catholicism in America, but specifically white nationalist Catholicism.

That's what I find very bizarre and very much at odds with the reality. I mean, it's one thing to have an expressly Catholic movement in Catholic politics that involves the majority of actual Catholic demographics.

But then it's another to say where we want a Catholic theocracy politics, Catholic

Identitarianism, but only white people.

It's like, it's a minority among white people

and a minority among Catholics,

and I don't see how it becomes something viable.

Sure, I would say that,

well, it's not, you know,

it's not white supremacy.

Like I said, there's a lot of, you know,

brown people. But the point is like, as far as like white nationalism, like Jared, like the alt-rights was like secular white nationalism. So yes, I would say that kind of ideology doesn't really square with our Catholicism because we believe in a bigger idea.

So rather than completely throw out those ideas that have been in the country, just to try to find the balance where you can have Christian love, you can have like

Christian solidarity, but

you can't have this evangelical, Christian

Zionist element that believes. We're all pink

on the inside and race. It doesn't really

matter because we're all, you know, the Galatians

quote, right? But evangelicalism

is only a, like,

it's a sect of

Christianity, right?

It's not...

Well, yeah, we don't agree with them.

I'm not saying, like, I would say

they're Christian, but, you know, we're,

we're not defined by...

Don't Grypers, you know, especially Nick Fuentes defined by don't griper's you know especially nick

phoentes don't they larp on catholicism and christianity being the guide to um you know

their way of being aren't aren't like their political views and their their religious views like conjoint in that way?

Yeah, yeah. I don't think there's a contradiction. Yeah.

Yeah. So like that's why Protestantism I don't think would be a great.

I think the issue is that the colorblindness that you're attributing to evangelism, I think is much more, I put it this way, Protestantism is much more racist than Catholicism historically, and just to track record.

Racialism itself, the racialist outlook, was a product of Protestant, chiefly Anglo-Saxon,

but the Germans also, I guess, played a part here with the romantic nationalism.

But typically comes from Protestant non-Catholic societies.

It was hundreds of years of Catholic societies in Europe and Catholic colonialism, which did not really give rise to a racialistic outlook.

So I think it's just too many

contradictions

here which I don't

see eloquently

being resolved

no I mean

I think most

most Christian

sex believed in race

realism

and kind of had a

somewhat Darwinian

perspective I don't

really see it as something that conflicts

the religious values. It's just trying to get

beyond the kind of modern

climates where, you know, whether it's

Protestants or it's liberals, kind of

pantomiming some Christian

drug. Wait, wait, I got to interject. You said, you think of pantomiming some Christian Jarga

I got to interject for you said

You said you think Christians were

Mostly race realists

I think they were aware

I mean I shouldn't use you know realism as a term

You're saying like medieval Christians were race realists?

Well, okay,

obviously at the time,

the context for race was different,

but I would say that they were,

by today's standards,

uh,

not egalitarian,

I should say,

excuse me.

What evidence for any kind of

racial realism exists in Christianity before? excuse me. What evidence for any kind of racial

realism exists in Christianity

before the period of

let's say the 18th century?

I don't think they would have gone out of their way to

try to integrate other

tribes into their

into their communities. I just mean

to say the identity politics of today.

But hold on. That's very bizarre because that

was European history. The only reason we

have a sense of a unified

European or

white people is because from the period of, let's just say, the Roman occupation of Northern Europe, all the way to the period of early modernism, these were very different tribes and different peoples who were amalgamated and brought into association, and they became one people. And even then, not necessarily, because the French and the Germans were still considering themselves different, but they shared a civilization that they didn't before.

Fuck, blue stacks, piece of shit.

Got to rejoin.

Sorry, you still speaking my

yeah I am using a stupid app

that doesn't work

can you hear me

nobody can hear me

it's his Iowa

well I hear me yeah this is the Zionist nope nobody can hear me it's a zioid yeah this is the zionist

nobody can hear me

but i mean we're not like pro

enlightenment or classical liberalism so yeah we would actually

disagree with a lot of european people wider than us

we would

we basically have to go to war with our own people.

I'm using a really bad app that it's blue stacks.

It really sucks.

But all I was saying is that what we call European civilization was

not always something that

existed. It wasn't something

that was born biologically. It was something

that was born historically.

And so, yes,

Christians were integrating different tribes

and different peoples, and European civilization is proof of that, because these were all different peoples before.

You're describing French and German.

The Gauls, the Celts, the Romans, the Latins.

The white.

But they're all white though, Haas.

Yeah.

You're right.

They're all white because they integrated together and formed one common civilization, which is what defines what white people are.

But they didn't have that shared identity before they were brought into association.

And yes, they were very different. I mean, the Huns, the Hungarians and the Bulgarians.

These were literally like Turkic people from Asia who, you know, they didn't even, I mean, Europe has the shared ancestry that it does, not because it's the same one they had since 100,000 years ago, but because history brought these people together

in ways they weren't before, specifically with

Christianity itself.

Yeah, I would agree with all that.

I guess where we would disagree is, you know, I think it's convenient that this is all happening in Europe and not anywhere else.

I also would see that.

It happened everywhere else.

The story of China is the same way.

The story of the Arabs

as a monolithic group is the same

way. The story of any

any civilization

you can point to in the world

is the product of different

tribes and different peoples amalgamating and joining together into one people.

There's no exceptions.

Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't be so, so flexible, but I understand what you're coming from on a technical level.

So what exceptions could be in court? I mean, what great civil... so flexible, but I understand what you're coming from on a technical level. They were... What exception

could be... I mean, what great

civilization in terms of

scale exists

that is not born out of

the mixing of different

tribes and peoples?

I'm saying people take advantage of that technical truth and then use it to, you know,

allow Somalians to go into Europe or Mexicans to go into America.

Before we talk about modern policy issues like immigration, the issue is the racialist outlook. It doesn't seem to be very compatible with Christianity historically, and it doesn't seem to be compatible with what has actually given rise to civilizations.

Well, if you have a sub, if you have like a subculture that takes over the monoculture, I would say that is like subversive, for example.

That's not Christian to allow like any immigrant to take over the the pre-existing state so i you know

we would agree that yes historically other tribes did that to create europe and other nations but i'm saying

we don't have to do that today like that's the's, the nations are established. We already have...

Are you against racial mixing

between different Americans?

Like,

in marriage,

excuse me.

In, like, marriage or,

like,

uh,

marriage?

Like,

in what content?

Marriage.

Uh, I don't think it's a sin

no I would just

you know it's probably not a great idea

just in the long term because it creates

it creates identity issues

with the children and so

it's it's better

that the more mixed

like the more

differentiated that the couple are

genealogically, the better

it is for the offspring.

I mean, the opposite is a track argument.

I just, I'm not super persuaded. I think it creates

potential for problems that don't need to be there. But I, yeah, I'm not super persuaded. I think it creates potential for problems

that don't need to be there.

But I, yeah, I'm not like totally, like, a white nationalist saying, like,

oh, it's the worst thing in the world.

You know, I think people should basically do it.

He's founding awfully white nationalists.

I think, I think you are adjacent to it,

but I think most Groypers are probably

much more explicitly white

nationalists who believe that.

And yes, white supremacists.

These are Hispanics.

These are Hispanics. Yeah, but Aisle, how do you

reconcile Catholicism with any of this

so if you look at the last

example how do you reconcile

Catholicism with any of this

because if you look at the last example

of Catholic guided

empire building it was the Spanish

empire which if you look at what the Catholic monarch said guided empire building. It was the Spanish Empire,

which, if you look at what the Catholic

monarch said when they were doing the

Goncista in America,

it was by order of

Catholic Queen Isabella, it was

Mary Indians. That's what she

ordered the Spaniards to do.

It's literal race mixing by royal order

guided by the Catholic Church

because the whole idea of the Catholic Church

at the time was that it was a universal church.

There was no such thing as race.

Race was a thing that came race. Race was a thing that

came later. It was a Protestant

arrangement of the Enlightenment

and all that nonsense.

Catholicism is universal if there's nothing

to do with race.

Sure, sure. Yeah, I just don't think state-mandated

race mixing is going to save the west you know i just

again like the historical references fair fair but like as far as like right now my catholic

identity doesn't persuade me to you know have like this egalitarian i don't think the I don't think the point

is that we want to be so fixated

on it.

I think the contrary is

I see the Groyper movement

itself being fixated on it

as the number one problem that you know

that there's

a white genocide happening because of

racial mixing

and that

this is why they hate the Jews

because the Jews are facilitating this.

I don't see

exactly what's Catholic

about that.

What's Catholic about, like, wanting

Christian leadership?

No, because you're premising the

superiority of Christianity

over Judaism, for example, on

the observation you're trying to make, which is what you're saying is you're claiming that Jews are promoting racial mixing and white genocide.

So you're saying the only reason we should have Christians basically is because they won't lead to white genocide, whereas Jews will.

So I don't see that as rooted in Catholic Catholicism. I see that as rooted in white nationalism.

Sure, sure, yeah. It's kind of borderline. I would say that one thing we would, you know, really disagree with Judaism on is it seems to promote like a certain individualistic culture, you know, the legacy of degenerate culture in Hollywood and a lot of, you know, critical theory and things to that nature. Very like like, intellectual Jewish rationalism in the West, we would, sorry for my dog.

And so I would just say, like, we don't come at it from, like, white supremacist's hate.

It's more so, like, their culture is not compatible with, like, Western civilization.

So was Descartes a Jew?

The founder of rationalism?

No, no. I mean like Leo Strauss rationalism, not, you know,

James Lindsay does all this bullshit.

You have to understand is that the Jewish intellectuals,

you're cherry picking, are building off of a very

well-established foundation

from the European

Enlightenment that was primarily non-Jewish

But that's their trick

They're throwing in their

Judaism into that

philosophy which I would see is not compatible with the West.

They're coming out from a biased position when they integrate their...

Listen, these Jews were living in the West for, you know, hundreds, if not thousands of years.

And of course, they're going to respond to the Enlightenment in their own way.

But how are they doing that in a uniquely malignant way?

I mean, what about Jewish, modern, rationalistic thinking is worse than the Christian kind. I mean, what about an atheist who was a Jew is worse than an atheist who was a Christian? Because the first atheists were Christians, right? Voltaire was not a Jew.

The first skeptic and the first Freemasons were not Jews.

So why is Judaism

singled out as the problem?

Because those are the people in

influential positions of power.

It's not to say it comes exclusively from them.

Obviously, the law spieling did not do us any favors.

But they're not even the majority of the people in power.

So why focus?

Well, among many.

You know, I don't have this monolithic view where it's like all of them.

Obviously, there's other competing interests.

Well, the other interests are outnumber them, you know?

I would disagree on that, just in terms of like a ratio.

I would see a lot of kind of judeic influence.

If that's true, why do all these

fake infographics always have to be

spread around, which is like, you know,

like all these people are Jewish?

But they're all fake and they're all photoshopped

and they're made up. Why is that

necessary to do that? Well, that's thought they're coming

from a 4chan,

you know, not exactly the most...

If the Jewish predominance

speaks for itself, why the need to lie?

No, no, no, I don't think that they're trying to lie.

I think they're kind of, I think

they're like, what is it, exaggerating a truth claim. But, uh,

yeah, I just Jews that perpetuate, you know, anti-civilization thinking. I just think

that that's like the one topic you can't really say in public

and understand why

everyone else can talk about the different

perspectives and the philosophy behind it. Like that is

one that I think just needs... Because the only

thing... I'll tell you why

you can't talk about it over other things.

And do I think that's fair? No. But I'll tell you why it is't talk about it over other things. And do I think that's fair?

No.

But I'll tell you why it is.

And it's not because Jews control everything.

It's because the only thing that justifies the current liberal world order is the claim that the alternative is Nazism and the assorted associated crimes, which all of

society agrees are horrific. I mean, the notion that there's inferior races or superior races,

people find that detestable. They find it incompatible with a human outlook. People regard

the wanton, arbitrary kind of fascist tyranny as something they reject, right? They don't want,

they don't want the destruction of the labor movement and all this

kind of things that happen other than Nazis.

So the only way the liberal order justifies itself

is by saying the alternative is Nazism.

And we even see this play out with the neoliberals and the hyper-liberals,

the Democratic Party, which says the only reason you should vote

for us is because the alternative is a Nazi who's Trump.

So they have no positive... Winston Churchill himself gave expression to this view.

And he said that, listen, you know, liberal democracy or capitalism is the worst best of all worlds, meaning it's not great. I can't really defend it,

but it's just better than all the other alternatives. So that's what liberalism, that's what

it's selling you. It's not telling you that it's a great system or a great order or society, but it is trying to scare you and intimidate you into falling in line with it by saying the only alternative is the Nazis. Now, when you go out in public and just overtly identify with the Nazis

and with Hitler

and their associated crimes

which is the Holocaust

or whatever, they get to use

that against you. They get to say, see,

there you go. So when you engage in

anti-Semitism, for example,

do I think anti-Semitism

is worse than racism

of any kind? Absolutely not.

There's nothing about it that's worse.

But the reason it's treated as worse

is because it's being

directly associated with Nazism. because it's being directly associated

with Nazism.

And it's being directly associated

with

an illiberal outlook.

And I don't partake

in any anti-Semitism, and

I get the same treatment. I get the same treatment.

I get the same treatment. Sneko just got unbanned

from Twitch. I'm still banned on Twitch. I'm treated as a dangerous

person who is, you know, needs to be demonized and vilified.

But I don't engage in any anti-Semitism.

Why?

Because I challenge the liberal order.

So that's why it's more taboo, I guess.

It's because you're just basically feeding into the very lies that they are telling about

opponents of the liberal order. And it's like, you are the smoking gun example of what they need to

persecute all dissidents. I get persecuted because they claim I'm a Nazi, which is a lie.

But when someone comes out and says, actually, yes, I am a Nazi who hates Jews, it's giving

them more ammunition they need to convince Scyopt populations to crack down on all illiberal

dissidents

yeah no no I agree

you know there was controversy with

David Duke pulling up to the event and some might say

well gee whiz I mean we're already being called

all these names. Why not

just let him into the lounge we went

to afterwards? And he was kicked out.

He was removed from the venue because

whereas some people might say there's really no

meaningful distinction between the two white

nationalist groups. This

is not really something that

our legacy. We don't want overt Nazism

and skinhead type stuff in the

movement. Even if there's

compatibility, just because these are like

old stock American types.

But yeah, I agree that like

just straight up larping as with

stowelhelms yeah that's not going to help anybody you know we would

we would disavow that stuff we call them wignats so yeah I agree that what you're

doing is also illiberal and so you would share that persecution with us

yeah but anyway if there's any other And so you would share that persecution with us.

Anyway, if there's any other speakers,

and then this will be the last one before we wrap it up.

There's another Groyper in here, Dean.

Well, thank you, Haas, by the way. thank you for speaking i appreciate you man and nicky love you man yeah happy to have you here thanks

would jean like to speak?

Hey guys, how's it going?

Is that it? I mean mean I don't know

Did you have a question or something

Or did you want me to do?

I don't have any questions You a question?

I have no questions at all

Okay

You have a welcome to the white race

In your

In your bio

and it's made in May of

2024 which means he's probably been banned

several times. There is such a thing as a white race

so I mean

So what is the white race

If you don't mind me asking

It would be people who

descend from a common ancestor known as Homo

not Homo erectus,

Crow Magnum Man.

So

Cro-Magdemand is uh common ancestor of all europeans you can uh you know look this up

genealogically like what what constitutes crow magnon as a separate species rather than uh i mean

what why is that

a separate... Put it

this way. If you went on, if you went

to the

to a fossil record, let's

say like thousands of years, sorry

not thousands, hundreds of thousands

of years from now, and he just went to

Greece, and there's obviously things, maybe skeletal that distinguish them, I don't know,

that you could really nitpick on. What justifies categorizing that as a different species of humanity?

Rather than just a kind of...

Because, by the way, the...

The descendants of Crow Magnon are by no means exclusively Europeans

Well yeah I mean

And the Cro-Magnon himself

are descendants from West Asia

So

Yeah

Yeah obviously there's also

You know Persians and stuff like that, that belong to that bone group.

But you're just...

But you see, the problem is you're taking one archaeological bone group, and then you're saying this is a distinct race

and what justifies that?

And where do you stop upon that?

Is that against the law?

Last time I checked it isn't.

But where do you stop upon the lineage gene?

It's not,

how far back you go, 10,000, 30,000, 50,000, 100,000?

It's just basically, you can look at someone's bones, right?

And you can tell if they're, if they're Caucasian or not, right?

Like it's, yeah, but you could also tell if they're part of some Greek island. You can really be as specific as you want.

Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying that's not true, too. But I'm just saying I can look at you and tell if we have a common ancestor, right? I can look at the guy below who was speaking

Sharif. I could look at

him. We all have common ancestors, though.

We had a common ancestors. Literally

we all day. This is

maybe at one point, yeah, down

the line, yeah, we're all

you know, ancestors from a single-celled from a single-celled organism, sure.

But I'm talking about...

Right, so the question is how far back do we go?

Why do you decide to stop at 56,000 years ago?

Why don't you stop at 86,000 years ago or 36,000 years ago?

Why this specific stopping

of the co-magnon? Because I'm

allowed to stop whenever I want.

But we're asking you why, though.

What's your reasoning?

Well, because that's a common

ancestor that we know and we

have recorded. But we

have recorded and we know about a lot of

other common ancestors as well.

Okay. So

that's the closest one to us currently,

right? That's not. That's by

no, that's not true at all. That's really

not true.

That is true.

It goes homo, it goes homo like for blacks, right?

It goes homo erectus. That's not, no, you're wrong.

Crow Magnon.

Listen, Crow Magnon is just... Yeah.

All right.

You can disagree and say that there was another common ancestor more closely related.

There was, though.

But based on my observations, right?

Yeah. Well, okay. Have you seen them? Based on my observations, right? Yeah.

Have you seen them?

Based on my observations, that is not the case.

So have you seen, have you observed Crow Magnon yourself or what?

I mean, what are you talking about?

What do you mean?

I mean, how could you have a

what a ridiculous thing to say

you've observed

that chrome magnon is the only

I have observed that there's

bone structures right

that come from a common ancestor

that's what I'm saying

I don't know why you're getting so upset.

I don't think I'm getting upset, but I just, what have you observed?

You really are.

Like, listen, bro, take a deep breath.

It's not that big of a deal.

He's not upset, so stop doing the whole Gorpher thing.

We pretend everybody was on.

No, I'm not.

I'm just saying

like he's getting frustrated he's like

but what what

have you observed just take a deep breath

calm down okay now go ahead say your question

yeah what what have you observed

yeah i think i made that clear i've observed it Yeah, what have you observed?

Yeah, I think I made that clear.

I've observed that there is a common ancestry, okay, among the European peoples, okay?

Is there a common ancestry among all of humanity or no?

I mean, yeah, if there's a common ancestry for all

you know, quote, unquote, humans,

yes, but that doesn't mean that there isn't

different races, right? Like, there's clearly

different. What makes them different?

I just

told you, it's the bones, right?

Okay, so, uh,

do you think that Germans and

English have the same bones?

Let me finish. Why are you getting angry? Why are you getting angry?

Why are you getting so angry?

Just take a deep breath and calm down.

I'm not getting angry.

You're getting really upset about this.

Yeah, I can hear you get in.

Your bone structure is really elevating your blood pressure right now

i'm just trying to have a conversation with you maybe take a take a little sip of something take it easy

all right well whenever you guys are ready to have an adult conversation i'll be here so we're just

wondering if you think that English and French people have the same exact

bone structure?

Listen, man, I'm a regular guy.

Okay, you don't have to be mean to me.

He's asking you a question.

Can you answer it, please?

Hold on.

Hold on.

Hold on. Hold on. Okay. I'm a regular guy. You don't have to be mean to me. He's asking you a question. Can you answer it, please? Hold on. Hold on. Okay. I'm a regular guy.

You don't have to be mean to me. Okay. You don't have to thumbs down me. You don't have to laugh at me. Okay. I'm a human being just like you. I mean, this is hilarious. I'm a lot. I'm entitled to have opinions. Okay. You may disagree with them. Okay. But you do not have to take this condescending patronizing tone against. But when I hear, hear like a drunk person saying illiterate shit, it's funny.

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Just talk to me like a normal person, bro. I'm a human being just like you. Okay. So what was your question? Go ahead.

All right. Rev, get him out of here. We're done with this.

This guy's not.

So you don't want to have a conversation

in good faith? Fair enough.

No, you just, just

just get him out of here.

Get him out of here.

We removed him okay speak to charcoal

no I don't want to talk to charm

alright

I think

that's it

I think that's a wrap

I used to run the in regards to the guy who was That's it. I think that's a wrap.

I just had run the point in regards to the guy who was talking about Catholicism.

So basically, like, he's totally wrong on that.

Like, not only during, like, the Middle Ages, did you see, like,

in the 700s, you still had, like, Arabic,

popes who were from Arabic regions. Like, just in St. Louis,

the King of France, he settled Arab converts in Paris.

And then in the 1950s, you had the church excommunicating white segregationists who refused

to desegregate Catholic schools and such.

So he's just totally wrong that Catholicism has a race realist outlook

that's all I want to say

I don't disagree I think

historically I mean you're right a lot of

the Arab Peninsula was Christian

that's why they were able so easily able to convert to Islam

because Islam is really just a continuation of

Christian with some you know know, polished rules.

But I think, you know, colonialism used Catholicism and Christianity as a way to enforce race realism.

Oh, no, I disconnected.

Damn. I hate, I disconnected. Damn.

I hate when that happens.

Anyway, guys.

Anyway,

I'm super hungry.

Like, really hungry

am I a scumbag

for just taking Smudley's money and running

don't I need a stream for like three more hours

or something

I don't really have much more to say though

I'm going to be honest

I'm just hungry

I'll just be staring at the camera

talking about all hungry I am

uh

anyway

shout out everybody for supporting the stream.

And I'll, next time, Thursday, I'm going to have some content lined up, I promise.

This was just kind of winging it.

Anyway.

I don't know what I'm going to eat, but it's going to be something.

And peanut butter. That's so, you can't go wrong

just bread

peanut butter

can't go wrong with that

no longer the carnivore die

alright fine fine

we're throwing that away.

Someone's got to shame me.

Go ahead.

Fat shame me.

Go ahead.

Go ahead.

Ruin my life.

Anyway, guys, I'll see you Thursday.

It was a great stream.

Bye-bye.