JUST WOKE UP [2021-06-13]

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not that deep

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it's not going to be a short stream i'm probably going to stream for like seven eight hours today honestly it's not going to be short at all yesterday was short because i had to go do stuff but today we're you know we're we're streaming all day today

is it depressing waken up this late

not really

not really

did i get drunk last night no but i did smoke a cigar and yes for the first time in a while favorite food

h your mom's pussy i'm kidding h cheese and bread some kind of combination of cheese and bread i sorry about the raid

o the only reason i was mad is because i told you guys not to do it before i did it that's the only reason i was mad i was like ok guys don't do this and then you went ahead and fuck and did it

you know and it's like

that's why that's the reason it like pissed me off

butt you said bread was bad it is

but it's still the taste the best

i mean

facts re facts

so it

things that are bad for you taste good got to diversify these channel point things it's a channel point i'm sitting at forty oh give you more options yeah i'm going to do that i'm going to give you like more options to be able to do stuff with

can i can we do gambling can we do the bets oh we can bet channel points and shit am ok

you can do that fobers nice we can do bets that's fucking sick to october

i think tomorrow's our debate or tuesdays our debate was al saneous so it's going to be a big day going to be a big week ahead but let's enjoy this lazy sunday in't see i don't know what i have in stored for tonight so some crazy shit might happen i just woke up

and i wanted to see what happened like with the three bee it was today was the microsoft and bethz the showcase and i was like why do i just stream it you know give my live reaction not going to stream the three but i'm going to stream i'm going to stream like the clips from it was garble

debate stans he's he's back on the server i was gone yesterday guys ah i don't know what the fuck

is that the hass guy no that's the dinosaur guy that's the dino pilled guy the guy who talks about dinosaurs you know why i'm a terrible twitch streamer cause i've t i have no consistent schedule i'm all over the place i'll stream at

ten pm i'll stream it fucking four pm or stream at six pm and there's no consistency but i don't care i don't giveh

por man

i do what i want i think i'm gonna like start four pm streams maybe earlier eventually

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command is sad of coursa to troop

do i think of intermittent i don't even know the fok that means when i want to lose weight i'll literally just only eat healthy food it's as simple as that for me if i want to start losing weight or losing fat i should say i don't i never say lose weight because

why would you want to lose weight you don't want to lose weight you want to lose fat and dot the the best way to lose fat is tojust stop eating bad food and work out because you'll you'll use up your fat reserves in the those disappear like and it's super quick for me like i t spent the past four days not eating bad food

and some of the fat around my waist is gone mean like it's shit that you guys don't notice shud that i notice drink a lot of water to yeah i have a super fast metabolism you know super fast

what is this a moji even mean i don't know it means c p sa twenty thirty six

i literally woke up like thirty minutes ago i woke up with thirty minutes ago there's a guardian's game you honestly

saw everything without me on the job buting traitors was watching force and i don't even know that is orson or skin

use for skin or skin of forcein

who's for what's force in

what's force in mean

what does that mean

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okay

what a vah tour from new zealand

let me before we get into this guys something i was thinking about about you three let's keep this in mind because a lot of people don't understand this this is something i came to the conclusion of gaming is not for us gaming is not

us it's for kids it's literally made for children and the reason people are confused about this is because when gaming was starting to take off in the two thousand the adults were the test subjects it was all experimental adults were just that it was all like it was like the beta of

aiming right it was like the alpha the adults were just the test subjects for this new technology and we as kids at this time we were we thought of gaming as an adult thing

because of that so halo there was a lot of blood in it and it was like

gaming was supermature and

it was like just high quality and you know it was made for adults and made by adults for adults but as gaming became more mainstream they started stop experimenting they realized oky now we can open this up to the true consumer audience which is children it was always meant to be for children

but when it first came out it was like this new thing that parents especially were ambivalent towards and they had to like test it on adults to see if it would work and be viable

so

gaming is now for kids it's just made for kids it's not for you you the adults back then that was just like the some experimental alpha beta type thing it's like it's not actually made for you you know it's always about kids it's all made for kids because gaming replaces toys now you know just like toys it's for kids

and you know kids don't give a shit dude kids kids think fortnight is fun ids think fucking fortnight is fun they think you know they don't give up f dud they're not picky like you they just don't the're like that's all the care about you know

yah

you're out here judging games like a fucking connoisseur

but the fact of the matter is

um

the fact of the matter is that

it's like that's like that's littly like if you wan into toys are us and you picked up like a fucking action figure and you're like

m this action figure is not uprising but youre

it's for kids dude

kids

kids you know they don't give a should the take the action figure the at vidre and they them beat each other up and now i'ven thinking and they put it in their mouth and

you know they drool over it and throw up on it and git mac and cheese on it and shit they don't give a far it's all for kids dude

it at for us but it has so much potential as an interactive artistic medium i don't think it does dude i think thatth stranding exposeed the whole charade do's have to understand the genius of de stranding because that's why it's a work of art is it exposeed the truth of gaming

gaming is just this fucking repetitive grinde you know that doesn't even have a purpose but dead stranding gave it a purpose which is the real world go grind in the real world that was the message of death stranding grind for humanity work for humanity or it was it was

a salute to the people in the real world who are grinding for humanity the people delivering your packages the people you know working out in heavy industry people do it you know the volunteers during corona virus in china for example all that kind of stuff dude that's what that stranding was about it was about that's the real grind dud this gaming shit is a pointless meaningless grind there's no meaning to it you

know that stranding made you walk a lot and it put you through hell to show you the truth of gaming that it's a waste of time but and also to show you the truth of the real world that you should be grinding for some real shit rining for some real shit don't be on here playing room scatee you know fighting crabs for twelve hour

to level love for what there's no point absolutely no point purpose of good games is to be beautiful my issue with your word beautiful dude is that you known't you don't mean that they're beautiful you mean that they're pleasant to look at there's a very big difference between something that's beautiful and something that's pleasant to look

look at because something that's beautiful is also meaningful ok something that's good to look at that's like saying chocolate cake is beautiful no chocolate cake is not beautiful you over indulge in fucking degenerate you know it's literally what logo said it's fucking benthm you're a benth themite he dotis

you know you're aup benth the my head of this who just wants base unmediated on reflective pleasure it's like those people who treat music like food and they go to law palu and they listen to shitty fucking music that just like taste good it's not good music it's not fucking

you know gaming is primarily supposed to be some whimsical pastime as well i make enough fuss to propel into cultural discourse anyway you're right but it's just because it's something that so many people spend so much of their time doing it's a it's bigger than hollywood

now and people are out here spending their whole lives gaming you know it's people just game

oh

everyone just games like they spend their life games so many of these kit let me tell you the archetypal person right around my age they game a shittun they gamble on the stock market like with the game stop or ckrypto and they think they're going to make it rich and they all do it to fund their gaming lifestyle

they do it all to fun their gaming or they do four eggs and they just fun their gaming lifestyle and they're never going to go anywhere in life that's the truth yeah like elan and they go on read it and they want to be rich like elan

gaming is not profitable no it is profit it's like anything else it's not profitable at first but then it starts becoming profitable people in this system have no choice but to grind

i don't know what you're talking about because literally no one is forced to play cod or f p s games no one is forced to play those ud i don't know what you're talking about you don't have to game dude oh for x is not profitable at all actually some people are profitable and they know how to be profitable

i've demoed for its before and i made a lot of money demo not using real money but using the demo but the reason people are better on the demo than with real money is because psychologically when they're using real money it's like they're less they're less willing to take risks so you have to

be kind of crazy to be good there's a serious cultual decine that reached twenty

that's whathy i'm

oy let's start this out with starfield

let's check out star fuels

you guys see this yet

butles see

i'm debating destiny on wednesday any advice

holy shit

ah

i'll watch that debate dude i'll watch that debate my advice is to

never get emotional

keep your cool

stay focused

and stay confident

and don't get don't throw do not throw in the towel and become hysterical

a lot of lefties do that do not throw in the towel and just start

becoming emotional never do

before you

decide to do that

literally just end the call

if you if he beats you and you're cornered and the call

do not

get emotional

throw in the towel and just start like

moralizing and becoming emotional and stuff like don't ever do that do not do that stay cold

stay focused

and stay

on topic

you know because uh

yeat destiny is scared of you

i don't think destiny is scared of me i think destiny realizes that i'm content

i am content

i think that's why he likes having me on because i'm content

mike

i'm super i'm al it's always a fun time when i'm

when i'm on

and it's always super fun dude let me tell you something

destiny is like thirty one what is he thirty one thirty two

he's thirty one thirty two he's going to get engaged

and i think he has a kid

i don't really think he cares that much about losing debates on the internet

i don't really think he does

like i think he's he's his he's in a pretty

happy place in life and honesty good for him good for him dude

good for him

good for him

i'll never attack someone as a human being

just because of their politics

any chance of getting on train wreck show

am

i don't know probably not any time soon

i probably needed to become at least like a five hundred viewer andy before

having that chance

he just doesn't know who i am

i'm just not big enough right now

that's ok

h

have you read fin numina

yes

look comue

just bring up the wikileaks article that shows israel has materially supported hamas that's it

i don't think that's really relevant any more

yes obviously israel tried to forment division among

palestinian factions

i don't see why you would bring that up now though

why

have you seen him debate other people he changes his rhetoric when he's talking to i really haven't seen that many other debates but i

i don't think it's because he's scared of me i just think it's because he realizes

uh one i'm unique

so i'm not like other leftists

so he's not going to be able to treat me that way because he knows i'm not like them

ah

mm

he probably

he has some kind of respect for me because

he knows i'm real

and like i'm not faking it

and i'm not saying what i'm saying because i'm following trends it's because it's actually what i think

and three

he might just be he might just be genuinely entertained or interested

what i have to say

so i don't he's not scared dude he look dude

i don't i don't know how to tell you guys this but

um

you know

what is he scared for dude what like

it's literally just an internet debate

if he was a new streamer he could be scared right

but she destiny's been here for like over a decade

he's already made his name for himself he's already made it he's already

you know

he's already proved himself

he doesn't need to be scared he's not scared dud i promise you he's not scared of internet debate

vosh is scared of me

i'll tell you vosh is scared of me and the reason vosh is scared of me is because

wash has not proven

himself he's not made he's not a

proven his stance and proven like he

he's a legitimate leftist and you know

he knows about all these things

he's still clyying and finighting his way to doing that

and winning that legitimacy so wash is scared of me

boss is genuinely scared of me destiny is not

a another reason for that is is because

destiny does not identify as a

uh you know like a marxist or a socialist or a communist whereas voch does

and

i challenge that you know i challenge vosh's legitimacy and being able to do that

um

so so someone like vosch is going to be scared of me destiny's not scared of me and i don't see why he should be

you know

destiny lost like a quarter million last year or something

right when he was deep partnered

he may fear getting kicked ouf dude my only beef with destiny

honest to god

was when he brought up the weaker genocide

because honestly that was a super

cringe thing that was super crune super crune

it's like

i literally had eight hundred viewers

and in front of thousands of people

he just wanted to delegitimize me

ah

randomly just because i beat i

called him out on it

and the only reason i went after destiny is because

in the same way i'm going to show destiny respect

i saw that destiny treated richard wolf in a super disrespectful way

and

i'm not i'm going to stick i'm going to stick my neck out and defend the o g s like richard wolf

because look i'm sorry dude destiny like you're a streamer dude richard wolf is an o g guy

he's he has a lot of years he's got a lot of precedent behind him

it's not really fair to condense

all of richard wolfe's significance

to a twitch debate you know and it's not fair to treat him in the bad faith way that he was treated

i get why destiny did it he did it because

lefties are always using richard wolfe as an authority with which to bludgeon others

what

why should richard wolfe himself be blamed for that you know

a yeah the way he tried to patronize him was cringe

ya so

yeah that's the only beef i have with him otherwise you know i'm i'm not here

not here like a

holding grudges or anything

i don't know it feel like pure arrogance to me

yeah

true

okay

let's let's get into it guys let's see what's going on

twenty years

that's how long x box has been with us

and like you this

is a moment i always look forward to i wonder does he will ever get reported i don't know i don't know

let's set thisside as this is the new bethesda game star field i'm curious

i love seeing the new games crossing my fingers form my favorite

it better be impressive because this is not for kids you know starfield is made for adults

it's the only people who care about bethesda so

s to return hoping for a few surprises

most of all though i love seeing everyone

around the world come together and celebrate

what games mean to all of us

and i think you know this past year

they've meant even more

thank you

for being with us today

thank you for the support you give us and one another

x box is turning twenty

and i wouldn't be here if it wasn't for the friendships we've had

that whole time

at bethesta

we believe video games do one thing better than anything else

they transport us

through art and technology

there's real magic when you step into a new world

and can make it your own

i checked the red is

fall i'm going to check the read it after we react to this stuff

because i'm genuinely curious

and now

for the

ah todd does not look good

first he doesn't look good

in over twenty five years

we're creating a new universe

with stofield

set hundreds of years in our future

it's an epic

about hope

our shared humanity

and answering

our greatest mystery

it's a game we've dreamt of playing

and it wasn't till now

that we have the hardware

the technology and the team whose harder work at home

to make that dream of rod looks like he's aging very poorly here i think it was in game teaser lockeddown and something the weron a virus

is it no man'skuy

no it's bethesda

if leaks and shit are true they're not true the leaks are always fak dress your age thats what i always say dress your age don't try to dress younger than you are like guys i don't i mean supposeit imagine if i was out here dressing like a

more

wouldn't that be cringe

imagine if i was dressing like an i boy

what would you think what would you think if i just started the stream and i was dressed like a tik taki boy what would you think

what would you think

hold on

i

parking

id damn this

white ok

we don'll go

dress however you want to and you will attract the people you associate with

what

or you can climb ladders not that the field of stars is so vast but that we have measured it youre part of constellation the gunlok school part of our family what youve found it's the key to unlocking everything ok

it looks like an empty planet where's the fucking alien ca kingdoms where's the fucking emperor comes of the aliens what is this empty fucking lazy map they made he just made an empty map ok better see something cool the ship looks kind of cool and

i hope you coln be able to drive it you better be able to drive it the graphics are subcar

it comes out

in what two years

comes out in a year and a half

you get that is so

we were all waiting for this just so you could say it's a year and a half well if it's coming out in a year and a half

couldn't you have least have shown us something

what did i fucking just see

literie whatdn't i just see

i didn't see anything

youus you just showed me a guy i expect yes it's a space game

and you're going to be

in fucking spaceships i did it i did it

you showed me an empty planet with a fucking robot i didn't even see any aliens

then you show him sit on the spaceship

which is not a surprise to me at all

and he just told me come back in a year and a half

why did you even do this you could have showed me nothing

and just said it's gonna come out in a year and a half so wait

what did i actually

like what di what did i miss

did i miss something or is this it

is this it what what did i see and is there anything more ok and this is what people were waiting for this is what people were waiting for

yeah a one minute cinematic

this is what the fuck is this dude what the fuck was that

ok ok and what i'm supposed to like be soy facing over the o they show spaceship in a game about my god

like what did i did i miss something or what what it like

what

i don't understand i'm

you know it's really telling that like fans have to beg just to see the game like it's one thing to beg to

play the game

like halo three all the fans were begging to play it right

and i get that

but

people really are out here like

getting satisfaction from just seeing any gameplay

you know i don't understand this is wasn't even gameplay either like

the they couldn't just show us the game i don't understand you can't just show it to us

they showed that latter like it was a flex

because bethesda's shiphole you know bethesda still uses the marwind engine

that's why all of their games are fucking garbage

like fallout four was a clunky piece of shit

because they're still using the fucking engine from marwind

and yet that engine does not allow them to climb ladders

if climbing ladders with some flex but as the

you know you better be able to fly those ships manually like in star citizen or no mans sky

h because i don't know what to tell you if you think that climbing ladders is a fucking flex because it's not

chek out the new stoccer game ok one at a time we have like a lot to check

next we're going to check out halo

no wait what's this fuck this

helo the multiplayer or let's set the campaign first

because

so last year the halo campaign

a looked like complete shit

and i was told that

at this year's e three they're going to show the revamp

better graphics gameplay of the campaign

so yeah hopefully it looks better

and hey everybody

for us

and i hope many of you

halo has always been about heroism

and wonder

about fighting to keep humanity safe

against impossible odds in a beautiful and mysterious sci fi world this is just one part of the set a halo ring the largest most wide open environment even is it just memirrors looks like shit is it just mirror does this still look like shit

because this looks the same as how it look

a let's se boting it still looks like that same cartoon me

fucking ugly disgusting look that it that i saw last year

it looks the same

i don't know what they improved

this literally looks like the fucking ah

mega blocks halo game

the heart of halo is spartan one one seven the master chief in the next chapter of the chief story you'll face his greatest challenge yet but they're not alone in the fight

oh themin batteries oh my god

so to give you guys some context

you know and hal you know what halo was about right halo was about

you and cortana

and you're the master chief and you have kurtana talking to you whispering in your ear while you're fighting right

but

microsoft realized that they were misogynosus

and they decided that instead of qurtana whispering in our ear

we're going to have a whining soy boy whisper in our ear instead

and this represents something it represents the way in which

soy boys tried to speak for wom male feminists try to speak for women

and now male feminists are the sacred

beautiful sociological authority

with which we must bow like

instead of men worshipping women

we have to worship soy boy male feminists

you know what i mean like instead of men fighting for women like how we're supposed to

we're now supposed to fight for male feminists and soyboys

the the soy boys are the true like uh

mysterious sacred

other you know

and

i am not going to play this game i'm simply and i'm

not going to play this game

because i do not want to hear the whining soyboy pilot

because that does not inspire me to fight

i do not it' is literally like

it's literally like i'm not gonna say it's too mean

i was about to say something super mean

imagine okay

ho

h no dude

i was about to say

it's so sit

oh god i'm not goning to say it i'm not going to s i feel bad for saying it

i don't want to say it i don't want to say it

yeah ok fine it's

it's literally like

if i was fucking

if i always had

a ginjeet or defalt voice in my head

like

f

ell

i'm sorry dude i'm sorry ok i'm sorry

thats soright okay

i'm just saying i am not playing

i am not playing this game dude

i'm not playing this game

i you know

i don't want to have to hear this like whining soy boy

whe i'm

shee finds a suit

falking dude

the

please get off

take a few steps back and hop off my cock

please bring qurtana back

quartana's soothing voice will motivate me you know but this guy's voice is you know

it's just like how i said when i said i don't want to listen to male singers

only i don't want to listen to a guy singing to me you know

we're stuck out here you have one bullet against an entire army what can you do on your own i told you' enough what is this do like what is going on

like

he sounds like like a very concerned like hysterical wife

and chief is just out here riah don't worry baby girl i got this

don't worry baby goir ive got this

chief how are you going to do this chief

thwe

how you

don't worry

i got this

i mean i'm

maybe i got it wrong and they're doing a new thing but it's just not for me you know it's not for me

it's just not for me

so i see no i don't think this is like

ah

a

uh like a um

like i don't i think they're both straight men

that's why it's like they're both straight men

what

the new rule is that we're supposed to like

everything's for soy boys now

male feminists

want all of the benefits of being both

a man and a woman

there's completely straight ciss gender whatever mal

men

but they want both the benefits of being women and men

they want to be worshipped and adored

and cared about just like women are

and they want to keep their male privilege you know

that's

whatuck an idiot

so stupid so funcked stupid ch

what happened where is cortana the roge i known as cortana is gone she's been deleted

how are you

you know why did microsoft make qurtana the fucking and by the way this does not look better than b this looks like the same shitty cartoon graphics

and is it almost are they going to show us gameplay or is this going to be this

oh my fulking god dud

du microsoft made coqrtana the fucking villain

why

it's the most stupid it's literally the misogyny of microsoft

it's literally because microsoft hates women

that's wright

of course not did you hit your head or something don't you remember my instructions were to enter this installation imitate cortana and lock her down for retrieval yours were to take her back to the infinity for deletion so if it wasn't you ok then is this cortan f

oh you know go on

there's something else on successful deployment my deletion routine was supposed to completeill here something stopped your deletion we need to find out why but this wasn't the mission the missionschan they

and now i understand what's going on

i'm going to psycho analyze this

so

it's the soy boy mal whinding in your ear twenty four seven instead of cortana

and

that's the person you listen to and what this represents is

the discord groomed

grooming

a under age

burls onunderscord

and the soy boy in your ear

is controlling your mind and possessing you

to do this

that's really what's going on here

that's really what's going on here

always do are you sure

like this is the discord mod

this is the discord admin

and the pilot is a really winy like

fan of the oh this is a content creator

and the

the the pilots is a super winy like males feminist fan

and

he's grooming an underage girl on this sort

in his discord

fi

comld on let me blow my nose i'm up

omy housse

oh god

ar

we're back

so what the far was what did i even see

what did i it's

all i saw was a super dark cinematic

don't

and this does not reflect well this looks like a cartoon

you know they do that they're scared to show the gameplay i didn't see any gameplay

they said they were going to improve it i don't see any improvement

what the fuck was this

what was the point of this why did i even watch this

w i have some boogers in my nose once it

ah thatd

i'm there

okay

chir i literally leave for like twenty seconds and you're saying chair stream

okay is that it

right

m

okay i mean

looks like complete

stupid shit

cak

this is the multiplayer

i heard some crazy things about this

i heard that the multiplayer was going to be like battlefield

there's going to be driving pelicans and there's going to be like crazy new vehicles and

hundred player team big team battle

and like i heard crazy shit about the multiplayer from leaks i heard a lot of crazy shit so let's see hopefully this one doesn't disappoint

a day is upon us a new generation build to fight together we ares the charp

oo killingre

hello let's do some damage a quiret

i don't fuckon care about the wasp

this was a stupid vehicle from fucking halo

five

and they you know they what happened to the falcon in the hornet

what the i don't fucking care about what am i supposed to be impressed by this

blam the enemy fla hey it's a wasp and a fucking is there any new vehicles dude turn oh shot the pellet

what the fuck is that

oh my god its just drop off

so can you fly the pelican

they add the pelican as a vehicle

you can't fly they just call shit

my god a banche has something that was in every halo game for the past fifty years

what am i fucking looking at ok then the're going to show something

show me what you can do what

what if that's it

that's it

all they did was show things that were in pre so we were all supposed to soy face that there's an energy sword that was the final reveal

that they brought that they still have the energy like we're supposed to soyface

that they still have things

that we're in every halo game

what is different between this enable five what is different

what's the difference between this enable five

what is's what changed

the graphics downgraded obviously the graphics look like ass looks like a cartoon

what changed from halo five what changed

what changed

what am i looking at dude what it what is this

this is microsoft's biggest ip

and the it's like uh

it looks like roadblocks what the fuck is this dude

they're not taking it seriously i'll tell you that they're not this is not like a serious

h project this is just fucking old halo this is just

the same thing we've been playing

there's nothing new at all

it's the same vehicles they didn't add any new vehicles

i don't care about weapons

and the maps are the maps are also the same there's like two new maps

and this is just valhowla

so what what am i supposed to be impressed about

they didn't even add anything

oh there's there's a there's an entit oh god look at the final review guys look at the big review look at the big review ready ready here comes

it

they have an energy sword and i thought they were going to take it out i thought they were going to take out the energy sword

no you know they didn't they never took it out before any gay but i sort

oh you say they have an energy ar no bk you

and

oh my god event

and the fl

to the fact would you go one oh be by the morb veicle the they had an nble five

that no one like

ping but earlier than usual

what would't you be sday

it's you be to you my god

you can't even fly the pulican it's just a fucking drop the drop who fucking still has dropins in their game

the fuck is this tight in fall

just put it on the map you fuck and pussy

put the fucking vehicle on don't drive don't call in vehicles that's so stupid

ho you ever knew what to onun

oh my good

this saper ri phone

you can you can do spider man now that's the new thing this is the new is annoyingly stupid mechanic

this is fucking spider maan battle royale by dumb shit

you know and you could you could jump you could you can malay people

what is new what am i missing here like why is this a new halo

what a fuck is this stude

nw let's move on

let's look at the outer worlds

the first game sucked and we see it quiet do it i knew it it's just a cinematic i knew it

because the developers haven't finished the design or finished the story wive finished any gameplay that's actually ready to show in fact the only thing they have finished is the title

then why did you show this to me like i give a fluck

they didn't finish and look at the look at diablo too

the oblos way what

didn't they already make the oblo to

oh it is resurrected

it is resurrected

it is resurrected

okay let's see

i might p apparently this is diablo two is like the shit right diablo two is the shit so maybe this will be cool

is this just another ok here we go

okame

cool maybe ill maybe i'll play it

probably not

um hold on i'm not

skipping anything i'm just

let's see the battlefield stuff

let's see the battlefield thing i want to see what's going on in battlefield

what games do i play right now nothing do nothing i don't playany

and jobing

atected all squads the russian troops are falling back to whatever you cam to secure the sector we push them back but not far enough regroup

now

i do

this is not twenty forty two this is literally what chinese cities look like now

whatre the saying this is twenty forty two this is like chinese cities right now

o what out

nh it's an elevator joke ha oh you can change your gun mid game

wow

that's kind of cool

that's kind of cool actually that's kind of cool

mmhmm

ah

it kind of just looks like

a battlefield forts

i mean uh it kind of looks fun but

it doesn't really look that streamable and

what ok i mean it lo it's a battlefield game

a i didn't see anything really crazy what

but what's supposed to impress me here like this is just like battlefield for

this is like battlefield for it right

it lts l you a fall of seventy six

again

the brother hohuld of steelized gud it came at a great cost justice the most important thing

so it comes to this sg met the fther has gone i believe this is

thank you

if you buy that fridge

you will get jnacho mestia i promise you

what the fuck is this

what am i looking at what even is that

what the fuck is that

what a fuck is that

literally what the fuck is that

what the actual fuck is that

what is that supposed to be

ok let's watch this one

the ascent

yeah

find lethal solutions to conflicted situations

exactly it's look they make it seem like it's this fucking a

they make it seem like this is like some like cyberpunk twenty seventy seven game

and then look at the actual gameplay this is a quok lah look at the actual gameplay it's always this is always how it fucking is

they make it seem like it's in the look at the fucking p s one game

whatalking you bath it

always how they fuk and do it

thak

square nex is doing some shit so let's check it out

m hold on we got a few things to check out

stalk or two

i know you guys want to see that atomic hert

guardians

ah red fall

final fantasy

babylon's fall i think after that it's over right

it's done after that right

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what is it called

metro i didn't like metro i hated it

i hated metro uh

the latest metro game

what is it called

metro

nothing like metro ok good

as i di don't like metro what is it called metro game

metro

what the fuck was it called

mextro exodus yeah exodus i did not like exodus i hated it

i hated the game so much i fucking hated everything about it

so if it's not like uh

metro exodus will be good but if it's like that game we're going to be in trouble

let's look at a tom a caart briefly

do you even play games or not

i don't know

i'm a secret gamer

if i ever wanted to play a game i would stream it

i promised if i'm playing a game you're going to see it

be i'm not going to play a game by myself this music is not

it

looks boring

i am so proud of you

do you know what a birthright is peter

so i this part of gardeners of the galaxy

what the fuck is that hold on

what

this looks nothing like the

who the fuck is this

what is this it like a fucking

zombie

like no rocket so i let group fill out the paperwork what this is like a fucking rip off

it slooks like a fucking

bollywood guardians of the galauxs like a rip off like from a foreign country

we like a fake one we appear to be six thousand nine hundred sixty three units short i know we clearly need a plan aren't those things from debt stranding

where these things are from a game

crak role no you are monster i'll tell you monster no we just row keep your pants on

although it could be used as a distraction make your mesre for all professionals here right

wait i thought redfall was the new elger scrolls

elder school is rich

oh it's not

the leaks were wrong it's just a stupid fucking dishonored game

i don'tre as the locals engage i don't care can you show me some gameplay i don't know i don't know what this is ghostbusters

yes

i do not care i do literally do not what is this fucking penny wise the clown

don't miss

with p

fuck is that

this

is this a game or a movie because as a movie it looks super but boring and generic

and as a game i have no idea what this is supposed to mean or what this is for

isn't this supposed to be about gaming

e three is about playing games right

so what is this

sons

i never go back to normal would you want to go back to normal

what the fok am i looking at

i thought this was about games

is what is this the next pixar movie

i don't care

let's moving on let's check this out final fantasy

ove

well

no sevneen

is this a new final fantasy or is it an expansion what is this battle roy

is this a final fantasy battle royale

oh it's a moble game

but why are the graphics look so good it's a mobile game

at the dislike ratio

good

look at that there

not

check that out later

but look at this dude

it's a mobile bag

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ah wow

that's fucking crazy dude

random question are you

no

i'm straight

i'm strange

inm straight

what the fuck was that

on it twice your

they vote for notght

pleining the haurd thip wa the loca frda

babylon's fall

check it out

abuilt over a thousand

laziest game i've ever fucking seen in my life' even fucking render the graphics they just fucking

they're calling it art and there's the graphic sau sayre of new babylon stand among us let's find out wreout do you know what they're starting

to make video games for steam and discord anime nerds

who truly think video games are an exquisite form of art and there's literally a whole like

group of video games snobs who think video games is our art

and these people are soyfacing at this game they're like a this was you have to have refined tastes to be able to appreciate this i watch the finest japanese cartoons

and i watch the fine eye truly you have to have you truly have to be a man of refined taste and refined appreciation to understand this game because you see i do near i play near ottomatin it is truly a deep game

i have a anime girl profile picture

and she is dressed as a prussian anime girl i am truly an exquisite connoisseur i a shut p fuck up you stupid piece of shit

if want to die and i'll die for hope for whatetle hope there may be the most pretentious music of i've ever flock heard

seen through the veil at last have you no one thinks this is art

yes they do i've seen it before literally they're fucking

they're on steam and they're on uh i used to troll them dude i used to like download

you know the game on steam occupy wa white walls i'm i p band from that game cause i used to troll on it

and

i know of these fucking people do they're fucking gamers who think gam video games are art

and they fuck in a

they think video games are fucking exquisite and um

so if you want to okay you know occupy white walls

i downloaded that game

so occupied white walls

is the most pretentious video game in the focking world

it's a game on steam where you appreciate art and you have the experience of going to art museum and it's o right

and it's a super like

you you you have like a very generic

abstract avatar and you're supposedt craft art

and walk up to and there's like there's like music and it's such a pretentious thing right

so i downloaded the game

and i pretended to be a foreign guy playing it

and i was just like

uh where can i find the sexual experience like i was just like

being super like disgusting and like

asking like can you have sex in this game is there bob and vigine in this i doing all sorts of shit like that

and

the reason i did that is because i wanted to defile

their experse i want to they have this pretentious like

h we are to like know i'm going to make this dirty i'm going to start dirtying it i got banned ip banned from that game

we're all prisoners of our subjective reality

we are all prisoners of our subjective reality

oh did it happens me by w an old prisoner o of s objective reality's such a deep game you have to have truly refined tastes to appreciate this video game

shut the falk off believe only what you see and you like to end up seeing only what you believe what you

but don't thk you will you know mayby you wyy youm oh don't show me any more

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so like this one now

just to prove it to you

wait i thought this was going to be like ninety nine percent liked

it's like they're like oh really good yeah i'm going to dislid

okay good good

good

good i thought the comments were going to be so pretentious

like i thought the comments were going to be like

this is an interesting video game that looks so deep and rich in character is si it ok

no every one sees the truth dude everyone sees it for what it is

ah

okay wow okay based audience

thoughts on big titty goth women

i i think that whole trend is disgusting

um ya

it's you know

there's nothing wrong with this fa it's nothing wrong with it but like if you

if you define your sexuality based on memes like that

you're not straight

and there's nothing wrong with that but you're not straight

you're not

you have some kind of

different

um thing going on

stranger of paradise

like like if you specifically

fantasized like about

and it's so spk they have to be goth

they have to likee it so specific these like fantasies

a that is not

um

you know

that's not within the realm of light

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the heterosexual norms and there's nothing wrong with that nothing wrong with that but like i personally can't relate to it you know like me personally i can't relate to it

i'm here to kill chaos that's my mission did we not just see this

is this the this is the same fucking thing we just saw

thank you guess we'll just show ourselves in

cast control this sytem

the darkness is so thick i can taste it

i literally just saw that

it literally we just saw that we just fucking saw that

k apparently there's some more stuff

oh we this ones super important guys ready

ah super important

um

is it is ethree over

uh but this one

this one super important ready guys

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this is why i came to you

this is really the game that comes pre installed on your fucking x box

this is the game that no one ever buys but it's installed e box

and you have to uninstall it to

to make room

you have to uninstall it to open up storage

nowboarding it's like scarling but you're shrinkingitskiing i would like that

i'm going to save this to the full episodes because wow guys we got to sa kitd

just say your hat

okay dislike

dislike

dislike

dislike

dilike

dislike

im disliking everyone just for being here

bext what

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where did you have to go wrong in your life to click on this video and watch it

i don't care what your fucking views are

what where did you have to go wrong in your life

just to watch this video

that's my question like

where did it go wrong you know like where did it go wrong

that you're out here watching this

you know

of disliking

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i have to

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i don't want to finish it though

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china is rising

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you'd better be behaving because he's checking

you' better believe he's checking if you don't believe he's checking youve got it

sorrowly mistaken

you got it sourly mixed up sourrily mistaken i'm saying he's checkin

he's checken

he's checking

he's checking

butin

ukraine

plan for a new race yeah did you guys hear about this

so let me tell you guys what's going on

ukraine

so in our in our age of black lives matter and liberal cancel culture and everyone's so obsessed with talking about everyone's a nazi and everyone's hitler

no one's talking about this is what's happening in ukraine no one's talking about it why is no one talking about it

why is no one talking about this

in our day and age

in which everyone's this is what caleb said in his tweet he was one hundred percent right

to speak of russians as a non indigenous people is incorrect so non russians are going to be called

none

non indigenous

and ukraine's new race law

what country has a race law

one

in our day and age of this what caleb said he's a hundred per cent right and his day and age of everyone getting cancelled for being a nazi that's what they try to cancel me over

none of these libs

hey dylon burns are you talking about ukraine

dillan berns what do you think of ukraine's race law hu

you think you think ukraine a

maybe he has the connection to nazism

no one talks about it though

no one talks about it

the draft laow

which aims to define the indigenous peoples of ukraine

was introduced by the country's president

vodimir zealenski in april as well as elevating the status of ethnic ukrainians

it recognizes the status of some minority communities including crimean tatars

however it excludes those whose ethnic group is deemed to have its own state elsewhere

depriving those descended from belarusians moldovans and poles

the right to be considered indigenous despite centuries of history in ukraine

asked for his view

the division of people into indigenous first class and second class categories of people

it definitely looks like and resembles the theory and practice of nazi germany

what about people of mixed blood

zelenski himself is jewish by background

they're going to like in nazi germany measure their skulls and other parts of their body with a compass

are they going to define real ukrainians in the same so whenever when in the debate with bosch when i said at least putin isn't a racist this is what i was talking about

putin is not a racist he's not a racist he's not

i'd love for osh

or anyone

to give their take on this honestly i'd love for someone to confront what what is boss going to say bos me like

well it's sort of problematic but

it's necessary to fend off the real nazis the russians

that's like that's what he would say

that's what he would say

okay its complicated

com we do al ready

becye it's complicated

like i know biden's not the best

but we just have to vote for him ok

and you know osh in world war two would literally

they something like ah i know it's complicated guys but

we have to we have to

we have to

support the germans against the true fascist the russians you know what i mean like you would say some shit like that

it literally all comes from voting once you can

justify voting providing you can justify anything ok guys

i know the race law is super problematic and stuff but

putin is a serious danger to democracy around the world

around the world

yeah

i'm gonna go ahead and like that what is a communist

what is his video

should i like it

a communist is a professional revolutionary a communist

i

the video is eight minutes we can watch all of it but all

the priorities of zanderhal let's see

media share the debate panel about whether milk is a slur

what

the fuck in my watching

bike

what the fuck is this

literally what the fock is that

what the actual fuck is that

what the fuck is that what is that supposed to mean

what the funck is that supposed to mean

i don't understand

i don't get it i don't get it what is this alchemy i don't get it

i don't get it

i don't get it

two anglos fighting to see who gets into the anglo bar

you've never cooked to muscle we can show you can what don't mind what you mean not going to help i want be do last ok you're right i'm sorry what we doing last two hours fine so what we want in here i'm just amazed you never comok to muscle and don't try to pih at me for it i'm always taking the put you i don't think you can actually cook if you can show you cook go on

finish it then finish well what youbout you exercise you want a muscle no i haven't coot one right ok right i shall show you how to cook a muscle oh at last thank you ah les right are you going to turne your voice down to shout like some day ill shout like someday and then i to the bookshop read how to cook a muscle come back and see me yeat and i'll run your qustion thank

you planka twite now was jesus christ what a least a brote the arce now anyway we knowe we stand

you met his match yet

g seven a got the g seven cringe

where am i have you thought about putting the anglo box inside of another anglo box

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is this the new zealand lady

what a fog is this

should i plick on this

should i even click on this what is this dude should i click on this

so long as reaction

and bourgeois psychology still lingers within the monkey brains

all

it the general public because it is

and these bourigeois attitudes will still persist

literally generations after the revolution

and it is something that is going to have to be addressed

the careful social engineering

why

one

what has belittling leftoids at the bar the whatk is he talking about dude

how what is this

i

agreria in pre cap all right of course that's you hang on it s you're a first year grad student you just got finished reading some moxyan historian pt garrison probably you going to be convinced of that till next month when you get to james lemon and

going to be talking about

how the economies of virginia and pennsylvania were entrepreneurial and capitalis way back in sevent heend forty

that's going to last until next year you're going to be in here regurgitating gordon wouldood

talking about you know

the pre revolutionary utopia and the capitoal forming effects of military mobilization

matter of fact i won't

would drastically underestimates the impact with you social ded drastically underestimates the impact of social distinctions predicated upon wealth especially inherited wealthy

this is this is the most pretentious uh

thing i've ever seen

you got that from vic

work in essex county page ninety eight right

yeah i read that too we going to plagiarize the whole thing for us you have any thoughts

of your own on this matter

but you t that your thing you come into a by you read some obscure passage and then pretend you pawn it off as your own

is your own idea just to impress theres my friend

so the sad thing about a guy like you is in fifty years you going to start doing some thinking on your own you're going to come up with the fact that there are two certainties in

one

don't do that

and two you dropped one hundred fifty grand in a fucking education you could have got for a dollar fifty and lay chags of the public library o yeah but i will have a degree

you'll be serving my kids fries at a drive through on our way to a skiing trip

that may be

but at least i won't be an original

but i mean i was not a good comeback

problem like that i we could just step outside we could figure it out

a man there's no problem

school

that was a super lame comeback

who'se ho hold on who'se hong master i wasn't looking what's going on

ye indeed i'd rather just see infrareentho get obliterated by dylan burns

so you can't fight your own battles you have to hide behind others

but i've defeated everyone i've ever engaged in a debate with

i have a literally already defeated all of those people you just named i've destroyed and wrecked them

so you can't argue yourself so you have to talk shit in my chat

um

what ah

interesting thing

super scared

ah i think he's scared guys what do you think i think he's super scared of me

i listen if you can make the judgment that others can obliterate me

you should have the ability to do it otherwise why are you qualified or informed enough

to be able to come to that conclusion in judgment

i just screamed at ho chinaa of course i didn't actually make methodical and elaborate arguments

ah i just scream no you're isolating my screaming as somehow essential of essential significance

ah but you but you know

that's what you're doing you're just isolating my tone of voice you didn't actually listen

or pay attention to what i said clearly you just paid attention to my tone

like a monkey brained idiot

but that's ok

i want to know how you're qualified or informed enough to come to the conclusion that others could match you

or come close to defeating me whatsoever

when you yourself can't even do it so how would you know

i mean how do you know anyone can beat me in a debate

when you can't do it yourself you don't have the skill set to do it yourself

so you're out here cheerleading others

based on what

how are you qualified to judge who can win or lose a debate

that's what i want to know

the only way you can prove that that your words matter is by debating me yourself

i mean a monkey could defeat me in a debate

really

are we supposed to laugh at that

because you give dog shit takes prove it come my v c prove their dog should takes persuade anyone that their dog should takes

prove it

wove the dog she takes

please prove it

come in my v c i prove it

can you do that

are you scared

so he talks shit he talks a big game and he has nothing to show for

why should anyone care what you have to say

why should anyone care

no i'd rather just keep the trolling going

so s t l burns and vos already did that but you've just proven that your words mean nothing

and that i in fact did defeat them in a debate

and that you weren't able to appreciate that because you were just focusing on my tone of voice

but let me go ahead and ban you permanently

so you can't keep trolling actually

you can come on my vc when you grow some balls

a otherwise you're not going to be commenting in this chat any more cause

you know you can talk shit i could just ban you how about that how about you get in my v c b a fucking man

otherwise you're not gonna be typing in my chat no more the little boy

and yes i did just dominate you let me tell you something

let me tell you something look at this chest

see that

be that

see that

i'm your alpha i'm the alpha here you understand

don't get it twisted

don't get it twisted

i'm in charge

understand

this goes how i wanted to go

don't get it twisted

don't get it twisted

don't give a twist lougd boy

when you have a sence like this maybe you can talk to me

when you can do this you can talk to me understand

don't get it twisted don't get it twisted

don't get it twisted

don't get i'm the dominant one here i'm dominating you i'm your daddy i'm the dominant one you understand don't get twisted

don't get it twisted

i'll give you a chance to challenge me

i'll give you a chance

but you won't take it because you're scared and you're bluffing and you've got nothing to show for yourself

you got nothing to show for it

you got nothing to show for it

they're always they're always the same

they're hiding behind other content creators they're hiding behind other influences don't worry

don't worry

don't worry

don't worry they're not going to protect you

they're not going to protect you

i don't know why you'd think you' walked in too little boy

and yes i know you're going to cry

i know's going to make you cry

china has already surpassed the united states in in depth analysis

nice

yeah i showed this to chat i already showed this to chat

i'll debate dylon burns right now where is he you want me to debate didylon burns right now i'll do it right now

he's not even on line

what do you want from me eh

i'll debaate im right now

i'll debate dylan burns right now

how about that

i don't have him on the diskboard

i'll debate do i'm going to debate dllan burns

with a moderator so no one can just say that i was screaming

he's the only reason i have to yell

is because people talk over me if we have a moderator a moderators going to make sure it's not going to happen

so we'll have a moderator on politically provoked and i'll debate dylan burns one hundred percent

and we'll talk about the scarborough shoal we'll talk about the south china sea and we'll talk about dillon burn's a favourite topic to filipino fishermen

then we'll go through the whole thing

western hypocrisy one hundred one

falsely accuse your enemy of doing what you yourself did while denying you ever did it

canada canada's parliament declares china's treatment of weaers genocide

nd p motioned to see commons recognize residential schools as genocide fails

so when you find the skulls of what over two hundred indigenous children under your school that's not a genocide

but when you have adrian zenz making things up about something in shinjong that's a genocide

imanna also ask dylan burns if the if he recognizes the canadian genocide

who is canada to accuse anyone of genocide it's the most hilarious thing

bujimorri says she is not conceding election because peru is the battleground to fight communism

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massive protests erupt in mainland china

why should i respond to it

there's protests all over china

for all sorts of reasons

that doesn't it

protests don't equate to attempts to overthrow the state

protests happen all the time in china

over a multitude of issues the chinese people are not passive

they have a voice and the government

responds accordingly

when there's that when there's the government always

hears the demands and always responds to protests

and always recognizes that the will of the people matters

so why should it

why should china has a bigger protest culture than the us

it's just that in china they don't get violent

they don't they don't you know they don't go around um

destroying s yeah why would you link a video by loud i'm not going to react to this dude

this guy's a sex pat

and i'm not gonna give him any views

when events are so bad in the west that even elephants are moving to china

wandering elepants are touching hearts in china

killer rolee the upe and i have to

pachus the please

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is this something someone actually did

because that's ok guys look at this he trained his jaw

it rained his jaw ok i'm gonna go out on a limb and

and say that this was surgery

right

is this real dude

so wait you can buy that thing and train your job

is that a real thing

you can buy like a

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and you know you can chew on it and then

is that real

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i don't fuckin need that shit dude

you all need that shit i don'll need this shit my jaw is fine

i got a fine job

it destroys your job

no it doesn't do shit

i got

the impact of the cultural revolution

nice connor's out here promoting his channel nice marshals

i hope you don't

becoe like

hogan no i'm kidding

there is huge free hong kong in my city today

they had loads of

colonial flags flying and they had a large boat for information purposes supposedly with the history of hong kong

from the eighteen hundreds onwards

they barely mention anything before nineteen ninety seven just the treaty with the u k in the chinese revolution

nothing about the uprisings in hong kong against british occupation

it was disgusting i spoke nice

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what the fuck is this

the personality calt is dangerous and detrimental

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what the fuck is this what is this

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what the fuck is this thing you put on my head

who did the shit to me

who did this shit to me haw's online haw's i

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do compare this compare this like rich chinese culture

to american witch toalk

compare this to fuckin witchtok in america

compare this to american tik top

where people think they're witches

because they watched fuck and harry potter

and they watch

they read young adult fiction novels

wich talk

is a subculture on tick tok

of young women who think that they are actually witches and they likewiy worship satan

and they actually think they're casting spells and you know

and doing magic

compare china to america dude there's no comparison

and it comes a way w be say to the communien hodi the some wi to to the

no it doesn't

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hunting

hey low where you go

this is literally what goes viral on chinese tik tok

this is literally china's tiktok vers american tiktok

so you so

how could you call yourself like this like conservative traad person and still demonize china

because look at china compared to him just compare china's social media to america dude

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why go after american culture a wholesale like that

um

because

because in the main chinese culture is more high quality than american culture

that's just a fucking fact

that's literally what i was going to say to muk i was going to be like

american culture what do you mean by that i mean

is there a culture

i don't know

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george in this you're not intlling the wole conn in the show

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what do you mean by what like hamburger burger king

what do you mean by american culture dude

what do you mean

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oh god i'm hungry

i'm going to order some food and a egg

actually i have sandwiches in the fridge

let me grab my sandwiches

i'm gonna grab some sandwiches i have some in the fridite

i fm some mut

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i thought there was something new

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what the fuck are you even talking about

who did i pu on reded what the fuck are you been talking about

what is he talking about

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cank you jerk

a hah bit

why would i tell

stall in that with the fok

china is a worker's paradise

okay

by the way

when you put quotations that means it's adverbatim

so i need you to find where i said it's a worker's paradise

or admit you're fucking stupidest shit

and he's talking about the suicide nt meme for it's from a taiwanese company

great

you don't even know what you're talking about

you fuck an idiot

why don't you come debaate aboart it

this guy's acting

like china's didn't eliminate like

he thinks in china everyone was rich and then

suddenly they had they had uh they had to work in these factories it's not like chinese people were dirt poor

before this and that this was actually an improvement from their earlier conditions of life

it's so stupid like what are you talking about dude

we're talking not

are you doing

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we saw this night

them

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anything else

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i didn't order this

thank you real starch stranger danger appreciate it

ok we've covered everything alady

we covered the rad

what the fuck is this

twelve minutes

hold on

what is this

babs

yeah i don't care about that

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we got to check out this g seven stuff first the first we're going to do

j seven then we're going to do

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but

can

i'm going to grab another sandwich

let's look at g seven cringe

good evening today president biden declared the u s is back at the meeting of g seven leaders in england once again allies are being embraced not alienated

and officials are praising common solutions to global problems

but the united front is already being put to the test

over how to best check china's ambitions

and stop russian meddling

ss nancy cordis is at the g a i mean how you writ all that nancy good evening youy heard the good news

a the president will not be making a joint appearance with

russian president vladimir putin

after the two sit down in geneva next week

the white house looking to create as much contrast as possible between that conversation lt of bad blood

and the ones taking place

here in cornwall

repairing alliances one handshake at a tim this is the biggest copium i've ever seen

g seven copium

hi

today president biden met one on one with french president emmanuel crone sa back in states ro on the same pag all of the g seven leaders came together today to announce a new global infrastructure initiative called the build back better world partnership

and yes that is a reference

what a fuck is this

i like how they've gotten so desperate

did they just go out in the open and just

like's their cringe now

yeah they look so pathetic they just go out in the open and flex their crings now

to a frequent white house slogan

we go to build back better we build back better the g seven countries are vowing to work together to marshal

hundreds of billions of dollars of infrastructure investment

for low and middle income countries in the coming years

it's a move designed to compete with a well financed chinese good luck beitches

good luck

good luck

the okay

their infrastructure

weill just as much coter the belton road

as biden's infrastructure bill in america

w'll compete with china's infrastructure

his infrastructure initiative in seventy countries

that's known as belt and road i think it's great to have a s president put of the club and very willing to to to call

macron hides his airline just like me

do this

looking ahead to next week the white house announced today that president biden will not

hold a press conference with russian president vladimir putin

following their summit

as his predecessor did at the last summit in twenty eighteen he just said it's not russia in a statement the biden white house suggested putin can't be trusted to tell the truth in such a setting

quote a solo press conference is the appropriate format

to clearly communicate with the free press

the topics that were raised in the meeting

especially in

the free press

to was disgusting

boss looks at this type of rhetoric

and he goes and dylan burns and deathsing all hisse people

and they'll be like yeah that's more or less true

and they actually think there's a free press

in areas where we have significant concerns

the us is literally a caricature

of what it

sad about the soviet union it's so ideological and so biased it's so fucking crazy

how they actually think this way

burns

and i would to come in a new interview said the russia u s relationship

has hit a low point

president biden of course is radically different from trump because president biden is a career man hes spent virtually his entire adulthood in politics and is my great hope that yes there's some advantages some disadvantages but there will not be any impulse based movements on behalf of the sitting u s president as the g seven talks draw to a

pot

professional

straightforward

honorable

dignified

b i did

brain dead seen nole

not even aware

but close here the leaders were treated

to a dramatic flyover emphasizing the red white and blue

tomorrow the president and the first lady will take tea with queen elizabeth at windsor castle

before he flies across the english channel

for a nato summit on monday

in brussels

adriana

by didn't want to create an infrastructure bill

he bite him

bed

joe byden

don't forbide him

hey n't bite him

you know why china did the beltan road

this is just emulating its own model for development in other countries

in other words

china is able to get things done in its own country before it starts focusing on other countries

you biden you can't even pass your infrastructure bill in america

and you think you're going to counter joha's belt and road

you and cakmala are going o globe trotting

trying to rule the world

meanwhile

america's on the brink

of a total collapse

half of americans don't even recognize you

you have a really big shit show going on at home dude

you have a really big shit so going on at home

and your globe trotting around the world

acting as though you had some prestigious authority

you can't even get things straight in your own country

half the country doesn't even respect you

absolutely insane

that

america's the servant of the billionaire class

look what happened to billionaire in china that people said

im sos china jack matt never worry about the regulation of weime because i know i'm a good boy but i have interviewed jack mat

star

bominoz at least four times over the last twenty you guys have the shortest attention span you literally start complaining

when i leave for fucking ten seconds

biy thirty years in two thousand and five

this was still early goings for ali baba

i asked him how he stays ahead of the regulators and he says im a governor love me because you know i'm having them for great business

he had that brash dis back

in two thousand and five

so that brash this has now come back and kind of

nip

the showman in the rear end

over two decades ago nipped him in the rear end ali baba

today nip them in the rearund camist giant

and one of the biggest companies in the world that's so

but recently and his tech empire have been in trouble in april ali baba was fined a record two point eight billion dollars for monopolistic conduct

its affiliate and group which ma holds a controlling stake in was ordered to overhaul its business after the abrupt suspension of its i p o in november twenty twenty

this was looking like a fairy tale listing for ant group and there has now been a significant twist and since then ma has laid low

just being quiet is something you know very notable that we we think of when we think of jack we think it was very loud brash and so we're all a bit shock when he's not speaking

but ali baba and aunt are not the only tech firms in the site

chinese regulators

i think this is a watershed moment for china's tech industry somewat say that the golden days of china's internet age is practically over what

does that even mean

the golden day age of jackma's career is over

you see how wrong they get everything when they talk about china

so what does the future hope

china's tech giant on i'm going to order some food right now i'm going to order some food because that was not enough i got to get some something else

mhm

it's become the stuff of legend

in one nine hundred ninety five during a trip to the uus

then english teacher jack ma had his first encounter with the internet

at a friend's place in seattle they search the first a word of beer

i don't know i becink it's easier to spell batty

and i see beers from germany beers from usa beers from

of japan

but there's no beer for china

back home he started china pages yellow pages like website

but it didn't take off

bye ninetheenred ninety nine the internet stock boom had griped wall street

and back in his hung joe apartment

ma decided to try again

with his wife and a small group of friends ma set up i'm listening don't worryight that allowed businesses to sell stuff to each other ord the same year a newly established company ten cents

released its first product

oh i c q

an internet messaging s

guys let me ask you a question should i get the bt s meal from mcdonald's

what's so good about it isn't it just chicken nuggets

and fries

what is it

what's the hobbub

what's the hub of abut should i b should i order it in the

react on stream to how it tastes now im just

ali baba came along

tensive came along

they grew in certain areas like in gaming ally been so fucking good

i'm going to just fuck and order it i don't give a fuck

i'm going to just funck and order it chat

i'm going to order it and react to it onstream

no i'm not going to do it

no i'm not going to do that forty

should i do it

should i do it

now wait should i

i'm super conflicted should i do that

do it

but i got to also order dinner for tonight that i put in the fridge and like what does mcdonald's have

that's the issue

i would do it if it was just this but like i have to also get dinner for tonight

i'm not going to waste money do i'll do it another time

i'll do that another time

nuggs will give you joina comstia actually true dude it's actually true

um let's see

ah i just want some like small snack

you know i just want something like small

it's there's like what's open

rosen yogurt

a kai super fruits na

let me see

ya i know i know exactly what to get hold on

everything's closed

carpathian slaughter pathian slaughter donated twenty dollars

for dude thank you so much carpathian slaughter dude i appreciate it a lot do thank you

thank you so much

should i get chinese food

it's all in chinese i can't

i don't even know how to read it

there's honestly not a lot to choose from right now

i know what im want to get

ok you know what im waning to do

um

maybe we caned on the sand fism in our name

whereer qrazy people meet on the street

god wants you to eat the b t s should i get the what's so good about the b t s dude what is it

like what's the point of it

do it

oky fine i'll do it

bucket i'll do it

fine no fucking to it

for a drink

i don't want to drink

i just get

a

letuss get a bottled water for an extra thirteen cents

which sauce do i get

is there like a bt s sauce

is there some special sauce cadgeun sauce

which sauce

two new sauces what are their sauces called so i know to get onm

cadjune in sweet chill okay i gota

cadjune and sweet chill

may i get that

add that to karl what the fuck am i doing dude

and then

let me see

is there

i need one more thing too

can't just get that

i' gotta get something for dinner

do they have the

grilled chicken

oziago grilled chicken

still

the don't

oh by oh boy

ah boy

what am i doing

what am i doing

making a mistake

oh boy i am making a mistake

ca june what is it actually called then u

there's no grilled chicken ok view cart

should i do it guys

should i do it once in a chat if i should do it

one's in a chair

hi in okay w chab if i should do it

oh man but i don't want to get fat guys i don't want to like

you know what i'ma watch my weight

i'm a wat not watch i'm watch my fat you know i don't want to get fat you know

i'm e healthy

i'm not even craving chicken nugget right now

i'm craving something grilled

im just going to get a case a deal from chipole

i don't want no chicken nuggets right now i don't want any chicken nuggets dude i don't want any

i'll just get a case of deal from chipole

ah dip

and then

now i'm just going to get this

here we go

bm salved

ok we'' let's continue this baba grew in e commerce but then

their services just started mushrooming and mustrooming ali baba and it's affiliate and

and along with ten cent these are the twin pillars of china's internet industry

and you cook yourself i have no time right now

i'm going to start though

you can think of their influence in terms of the products that they offer so think of the most powerful mobile internet apps in the u s and tensend would be a combination of all of them

tense we chat for example which is just one of its main services

as a combination of what's happ combined with services from oover spotify snap chat there's also elements of tick talk and financial cooking stream one

will payment services like pay pal as well

all aboves best known for being an e commerce giant

but the company has expanded so much beyond just its core business

it has businesses and sectors like lotchus sticks

entertainment

um think of

the biggest blockbusters in the u s mission impossible was financed by ali bama pictures

so it's a very powerful conglomerate

ten cent and ali baba's apps a used by combined one billion people

each this is literally internet three point zero

company has a market cap over half a trillion internet througer

and there's port

billions into chinese techtart up

start ups have to face the duopoly and often they have to take money from one of the two camps

and it's almost like an offer that you can't refuste

oh china is so scary and dystopian it's not like in america everaye startup gets bought by google

so stupid

not taking money from them

can be detrimental and if either all you bab or ten cent decides to invest in your competitor the consequences can be quite dire other than that when it comes to services e commerce players often do complain that they have to choose

between e commerce platforms

it could be either ali baba or it's

rivals

for over a decade the chinese government allowed the internet sector to grow with little oversight

as it wasn't yet considered an essential industry

beijing also hoped that expansion of these companies could spur china's economy

using the model of combining u s capital with china's best entrepreneurs and also brain power china's internet sector or tech sector just grew into this giant behemoth that overnight by the time the government realized that it had gotten so big it was already out of their control somewat

the ability for them to amass large amounts of data and combine it w wen w w we wait a second

i thought china's internet was all controlled by the government

not in china

they don't have it like here where we have the free and open internet that you know we have on restricted information like that one guy said like on facebook i can communicate with people in different countries and all this stuff

i thought china doesn't have a free internet

with artificial intelligence gives them key insight into one point four billion people and also guys guys

if china doesn't use use twitter and facebook american companies

a china a country with over a billion people china's

china's not part of the global internet community you know it's facebook is really the global internet community china china so like china has its own thing n no

china is just a fringed place like north korea

gky industries economies of the country which is really something that's at the core of the ruling party's concern if these companies venture beyond the edge of control there is a risk that these companies pose to the ruling communist party and power is at the core of everything

and the priority for the ruling party

china putting the brake

on the world's

biggest

i pr and groups listing in both shanghai

and hong kong have been suspended and this is really a stunning turn of events and its hardly noted in the previous segment

it was the most anticipated initial public offering on record and the money was piling up

to go into it

so in that

essence alone

it was a dramatic

about face

from regulators because it had already been given

the go ahead

a by securities regulators

and in the eleventh hour it was pulled

this is going to be a

thirty plus billion dollar

i p o but it all came apart after this speech of course in shanghai by jack ma where he criticized the regulatory environment

jack bob got so cocky

and he gave a public speech

criticizing the government's policies as though as though he fuck and runs the government

hey jack mo just because you're a billionaire this is in america just because you're a billionaire

doesn't mean

ah you get you get a say in how the government works and by the way jack ma don't bite the hand that feeds you cause it's the government that made your shit possible

just like in america it's the government that made elon musk possible

but the difference between china and america

right that in america people like elon must get away with whatever they want to

hear

jack ma he thought he was cocky he's going to be like you on musk

he went and gave his speech

the chinese government

completely

goet rid of his l

his whole prestige

his whole empire his whole persona

all his power gone like that

like that

beause china is the country where the people rule and not billionaires

that's what it looks like for the people to rule and not the billionaires

hoder trave actally

what part you'm going

that's a pops ind of fun which look how angry he looks look ws saying

he criticized state banks for

operating like pawnshops

and he didn't read the room very well because the

audience at the shanghai bun conference was full of government officials they did not kindly to this man's i p o debaco is the tipping point and homestly the underlying policy tension in there for really and then

and then a o c sees this she's like

it see his

this is

very

concerning

of the chinese government

b

ap pressing

billionaires

like this

i am worried about

the state of

democracy and

fevers

so a lot of tensions have been building up

in the past

ten years

it just you know until this really

small event

that the whole balloce

and i thing with a o c is she always like

is her eyes so open when she looks at the camera

sh'es just like looks at you directly in your eye

and like tries to stare tries to like

like a

yeah she just likes

she'd like

she uses her eyes in this weird way

int is china's largest intech company

created in two thousand and four as a payment service to facilitate transactions

ali baba

it's not rage it's a condescending type of like expression it's like a condescending stare like

i am much more

smart than you you know like some of that the company has expanded its business into wealth management

credit lending and insurance

in the year to june twenty twenty

managed to process

seventeen trillion dollars worth

payments

one point

had the largest money market

fund in the world

there has been a lot of complaints from the state owned lenders in the past few years about how aunt is encroaching on their turf especially in lending and also wealth management and the banks are held to a different set of rules that are much more stringent

whereas and has been able to sidestep a lot of these stringent rules by playing the role of a fentech disruptor

and they added micro lending

and i say micro lending

is just a name for

prolific

mega many many different small loans to shoppers across

the many different platforms

of ali baba

that pose significant risk because ali baba

only funded about two percent of those loans

and the rest of those loans were securitized

by

state as opposed to america with its predatory lending

china has lending that's pro people oriented that supports the people

bank

they took on the big risk

just the day before unt's ip o suspended

so the banks took on the risks and ali baba talkshit about them

jack mo talks shit about them

even though they were the ones taking all the risks

is that what's going on

pension

regulators released strict

draft rules for online microlenders

quiet and

provide at least

thirty percent of the funding for loans it underwrites

bank

and other financial

tutians

that evening jack ma was summoned by regulators

for meat

what we learned was that while they didn't discuss details of the i p o the message was clear which is that the free reigning days of and business was coming to an end and things were about to change that was probably the first inkling that things were not going to go according to plan but the writing on the wall was actually already out there and the months preceding

in that

there were a slew of rules that already were rolling out since september that curbed and sloan business

after ants i p o suspension

company was ordered to overhaul its business

turning it into a financial holding company

similar regulations

bank

oh okay i see what's going on

regulators also launched

anti monopoly investigation

ali baba

in addition

there's also said to be

scrutiny of jack mas

growing media empire

he owns the south china morning post in hong kong

he owns

at least thirty percent of the

social media platform way ball

which is like a twitter of china

he also has another imagine this happened to like sucker berg or jack dorsey or something

guys compare this

to win zuckerberg win in front of congress

and all of this

completely clueless politicians were asking

literal boomer questions to zuckerberg like

how do i turn on my computer

do haw do ia

to

w dot facebook dot like complete like clueless boomer

just

just complete yeah completely like

so you so mister zuckerberg

it's my impression that

you all these new check gadgets and stuff

so

ah

when you make a facebook

when you make a facebook

you know ca can i send messages to to uh

to you know to to myh ex you know can i send messages to my auntie

and if i send those messages to my auntie

a how many business days will it take till she receives them

h senator uh it's an instantaneous communicy what

no i'm saying i ca you mail it out on a monday you get on maybe a friday

so if i send the lesson o the message to mmimah

you know

you know i'm just asking like you know what

could the mail get stolen on the way when i send the message is it possible that

you will

open the letter before she reads it

like somethy they're literally just asking the

the dummest shit

media e thai which is a

very large media

company

that has an online presence in china

regulators are said to be looking very closely at

but

the influence

jack ma

ali baba through those

so mr zuckerberg

why are my friends in the computer how do i get them out

how don't i get my friends out of the computer

holdings of media business mr zuckerberg it's come to my attention that

in this facebook you've you

taken people and put them in the computer i

how long do you plan on holding them captive

and do you not agree that this violates laws of hostage taking

says

has on

chinese society

some would say that

it's the chinese government

that likes to have the final say

in what information

public

since the collapse of ans i p o ma the face of china's new economy and the showman who always takes center stage vanished and what's a j p he may be he not showing up but he's not missing he hasn't been captured

sired he hasn't been taken like many entrepreneurs in china ma had been walking a tightrope

balancing sometimes conflicting demands from beijing and foreign investors who are eager to see growth

for many years jack not branded himself or tried to create this image where he was a rebellion where he revolted against the system and was a trouble maker fighting for the little guys in love with the government but don't marry with them

he's also extremely savvy always appealing to the greater go trying to convince the government why his company and the services that they provide are good for job creation in china and also for china's image

it wasn't until earlier this year twenty twenty one

that jack ma reappeared he was talking about philanthropy and the tone in which hee gave his speech was so much more modest and humble compared with his speech in october

if this is how it works in china you know you don't get to do whatever the fuck

you don't geed to just be a billionaire do whatever the buck you want

you get hugbol

no't be messin around

in china

instead of the billionaires controlling the government

the billionaires are accountable

to the law

to the government

he was doing something that the government wants

a man who

is worth fifty four billion dollars

to do

and that is to talk about poverty alleviation

and

building up and investing

in rural areas of china these are messages

communist party of china

like

you know that he was a very different

fifteen years ago

very different government

i you had much more or less a fair towards technology

um you had also ineffective regulations often overlapping

you know regulations sometimes gap

and you know jack i think asiduously exploited some of the

contrast that to today we see much less

tolerance for you know

regulatory problems

chinese government is really up to its game you can no longer just bash government in the way that he did

so maybe jack just didn't realize that you know the game had changed

just five months since the sudden collapse of ant's ipo

regulators hit ali baba with a record fine for monopolist

you know it's so fucking funny

so many people literally thought

that china's like free oh yeah the communist farty a that's just like a vestige now it's a free market

and a lot of marks work oh yeah well the the superstructures outdated with the base

literally the opposite happened the communist party has never been stronger than before

the government's never been stronger than before

and all this time that they thought that the government was sleeping and like a

was completely like oblivious to what was happening

look what happened

conduct

and

now in the process

of an overhaul

is

the chinese government trying to limit jackma they don't want to limit the national champions ok

but they probably want to knock

jack mas

public profile

down a knot

so i don't alibout is radically can change its core remaining commerce

but i think for ants yes

very different

what can and be without

this lucrative data business and lending bus

that's a big question

the chinese government has also launched an investigation into suspected monopolistic practices

by food delivery behemoth

may twan

thirty two other tech firms like ten cent and tick talk on a bite dance

have been ordered to rectify anti

competitive behavior

i think the regulatory uncertainty is going to be at the backdrop of just about every big tech

story

for the foreseeable future in china

from the government standpoint

i mean it's not in the interest to see

the tech companies to become smaller and weak

it's just a different direction

that the government want these companies to move forward

the antitrust

you know regulation will give

um you know smaller companies

the opportunity in the room to grow look at that

it's the opposite ofan america

they're literally creating government regulations to help the little guy to help

small companies grow at the expense of monopolies

that's a people's republic

that's a people's republic

which is

one

the trend where governments are trying to rein in

tech companies and

libertarians listen closely

if you want to have

if you want to help the little guy you want to stop monopolies you need the government you need a big government

you need a big government to help a small guy

monopolistic practices

is global i think in china

what to fers and by the way this is central planning

by the way this is central planet

hogan is that the tech companies have no power to fight back this is because of a central plan for the economy

ogan

when the government cracks down on them ironically what we saw with allbaba is that they thank the government and that is something that i don't think google or facebook is

doing in the u s right now

the end of the day

chinese government has the final say

and bend the knee

or get broken

do you know that

doesn't matter if you're a billionaire don't matter if you're a trillionaire

it n'o matter how much money you have

thank you chris more i appreciate it

no matter how much money you have

you bend the knee or you get broken

nnot matter how rich you are

you fuck and follow the rules just like everybody else

you don't get any special privileges because you're rich

it's a people's republic

you follow the rules

or you you bend the kneear you get broken

you don't get some special privileges

like the billionaires and oligarchs here in america do

and in mea meanwhile you got you got the crazy bernie sanders out here

and

you know he's gone

he's gone

i am very concerned about the state of democracy in china

president g is part of a growing authoritarianism

that is threatening democracies around the globe

president g

needs to stop

cracking down on the billionaires and millionaires in china

because the billionaires and trillionaires in china

represent

human rights

president g

he' is an authoritarian leader

and i am very concerned

about billionaire jack ma

because i smeake rhetoric against the billionaires and millionaires

in america

but at the end of the day

i served the oligarchy and the billionaires

and i'm lying to people

just because i want to dilude

fresh young people

to go one ball

but joel biden my good friend joel biden

literally the truth

are guys

let's check out this critical race theory stuff why don't we

let's check out this stuff about critis critical race theory

because

ya

holy shit thank you chris morelock thank you

appreciate it

a

so foxes

ok what is critical race theory

and why are states banning it

i'm with you guys here i don't

know much about this

i don't know what the hubbub is all about i have some suspicions

but i don't know so we're going to investigate it

well them

what is critical race theory let's go with that

educators are facing questions about critical race theory

but what is it and why isn under attack

critical reasont from the liberal perspective

theory is an academic and legal concept that's been around for four decades

the core idea is that racism isn't just about individual prejudice or bias

it's

woven into public policies and laws

even those that seem to be race blind

single family zoning for example makes it harder to build affordable housing and further desegregation

in case you tel of education people w apply these concepts to patterns of student discipline and tracking

because racism is part of this context of everyday life

people

white or non white

who don't intend to be racist can nevertheless make choices that fuel racism the theory says

it's important to note that cridgoris theory isn't a program or a training or a curriculum

it's a way of thinking about

what

still it's controversial because critics

largely though not exclusively conservatives

allege that this way of thinking fuels division or picks people of color against white

lawmakers in more than a dozen states have already passed

or are debating legislation to

ban the use of

critical race theory or divisive topics in the classroom

sometimes

critical race theory is conflated with

anti racism and social justice

the are more common terms and concepts used in time so this is what it sounds like hel d are right

schools are starting to talk more about like racism and shit

i guess in black lives matter

and some republicans are capitalizing on it

and passing legislation

to ban it

to virtue signal to the culture war

so it's kind of like a nothing burger right

crt is an evolution of critical theory and it is a competing theory to marxism

it's related to auto i doubt it's related to auto bowers not du

that's going too far okay i doubt that

you know how it's to zircho what

oh how's it going oka you're saying i'm

they got

this might mean that parents or school board members could use the term cridic race theirds to challenge curriculum and lesson

proposals to ban critical race theory could have a chilling effect on what teachers teach about such filing

that

they might worry that yous what i was taught about racism in america as a kid

here's what i was taught

all right guys

ah

racisms bad

okay

m l k was good k he was a really great guy k

and malcolm x

he took it too fark and other people took it too far too

and uh ok we don't want to be you know

have reverseed racism k

that's what i was taught pretty much

teaching the full history of the removal of indigenous people

with the civil war or the tolso race massacre will leave in them in trouble with parents or administry

well some district officials have issued mission statements or resolutions or they

spoken about changes in their policies using some of the i don't even remember malcolm ever being brought up

yeah dude

mm

here's what i always want to say it's like

any any time there's leftism in institutions automatically be suspicious just be suspicious of it because

ask herself why would the ruling powers be if this is so revolutionary

so subversive

so critical

why is it being taught

by the state institutions and the mainstream institutions

really think about that like

if this is so critical and so revolutionary

why is it being taught by corporations and the state

like do it does anyone think that way because that's how i think

course of critical race theory

it's actually not

clear to what extent educators are explicitly teaching these concepts

were even using curriculum materials or other methods that it's just some dumb co opted bullshit that liberals love and bluff about

i drong

this is yeah don't trust university marxist i don't trust this guy

a really complex topic so we encourage you to look at education waste resources i will never visit this website in my life

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ah what's the video i wanted to find hold on hold on hold

uh it's this one

right here

conservatives and the debate over

critical

race theory

parents are suing their kids schools over critical race theory what is this rice theory is generating enormous debite in the united sy new the republicans in particular combating it

i showed you last week that fantastic video of a father and daughter korean royalty

pushing back against critical rights in the right wing sources judge people this is a right wing source not

by the character and kindness

not the colour of their skin

but others including former president barack obama have been downplayederic obama

on the issue

even mocking the concerns mocking aaring

you wouldd think with all the public policy debates that are taking place right now

that

you know the republican party would

be

engaged in a

significant debate about how are we going to deal with the economy and what are we going to do about climate change and what are we going to do about

lo and behold the single most important issue to them apparently right now is critical race theory

who knew

that that was the threat to our republic

well it might be a threat to the republic when it goes to the extreme levels

just revealed in one of the most prestigious universities in the uus

yile

a new york psycho yeao oh no yeaho teaching quick to go rting theory and yao

the republic is bese do they teach

dude yale is literally all fucking academic marxist what are you talking about

if listen

in yale the critical race theory people are probably the moderate ones right

the mo most of them are like

academic marxis

ruuna kill a nanny

gave a lecture in april

im used wnes sin

why do ordinary people care about what's going on in yale

who gives us a shit about yell you're not going to yell you

kids aren't going to yell

it's not for you it's literally for the one percent

so who cares about i kid you not

the psychopathic

problem of the white

mine

and she actually talked about how white people are all bad

have a listened to some of the lecture it's been leaked

because the university decided not to make the recording

publicly available

ok

when people make my blood b

yet

heit here's my issue though

some people see that are super terrified

i see that

and i see

the you know o i see someone who's dating a white man

who her boyfriend loo i wonder who was

what background her boyfriend is

i wonder whathe her boyfriend's background is

that's critical race theory all right all white people are bad

but listen to where it leads this particular lecturer

who shared her fantasy

with the galle student

i've never seen someone

who was not attracted

i've never seen someone who how do i put this

who prefers to like

they date within their own culture and their own background and stuff

say this stuff about

uh what

you know say this kind of stuff about white people like

like most

people who

doho like m

marry within there

specific like background

usually just don't care about white people

they just don't care

right

so

there's a lot of stuff going on here there's a lot of psychological stuff going on here you know

like me personally

i don't say this shit about white people because

like for example

i do not

i even lt sae this

i know other thse

m

in like my taste for example is like

like well i mean i can say this right

i only

i think i could only like be with like a muslim

person right

by do

muslim partner

so

not i don't envy like white

you know what i mean i don't have that envy in me weres like

i really want a blonde girl with blue eyes

i don't

i really don't actually i mean like h

was what i'm saying too spicy or

oh

i don't know

is it too spicy

which

ahead

how do i put this

my personal preference is a

people who come from my background like

similar to my background

you know what i mean

like i do not

prefer

h

i don't think i'm compatible with those types of people you know

ne

i'm saying i want to make sure this is oka for switch because i don't know what switches

you know thing thing

and lay my bloody hands as i walked away relatively dipt

to the government wt up

let i do the the paper

that's a lecture

that unit

just sickening and wiring stuff isn't it

the australians adam crighton has been covering this from washington

where i spoke to him earlier and asked him don't most people prefer their own group

you would be surprised how many people have

by

an internalized resentment

towared their own background and really want to assimilate super hard

and really wants and they're really chasing like

blond girls with blue eyes and shit like they really would just envy that they have a lot of envy in the you know

you'd be surprised

case makes plain

our critical race theory just encourages hatred

against white people

ly that's seroally what's happened at yale university where you have this git at the

this gds lecture by a psychiatrist from new york

whos given a lengthy lecture on the problems with the white mine that was the name of the lecture

and in it she said that she fantasized about killing white people and that whath people had lost their minds

and actually many other terrible things as well and extraordinarily this lecture which was given on the sixth of april never emerged

for many weeks offter aserly in recent people not realize that

academi elisten

i have to explain this

so people under

conservatives and right wingers

here's i'm going explain to you

i'm going to explain this to you

right now right

i'm going to explain this to you very simply

when you see leftists for academics say edgy shit

it is literally all talk

because how academia works

is that

as an academic

your goal is to get attention your goal is to say

new things otherwise

what makes you so unique as a professor

you're competing with other professors about

whose

the most edgy and whos the most

provocative basically

so people will compete with each other to say these edgy things in academia

literally just for attention and just to sound and sing more interesting than they are

it has nothing to do with the real world in the real world

they are actually

one hundred percent subservient

in every possible way

subservient

even in the way

you know

even in a very more intimate way too

two old rich white men

mean she probably has a sugar daddy that's an old rich white man

right

and the institutions are controlled by

old rich white man

ah

so

there's no

you know

this isn't about white people

it's about

old rich white men who are in power

and regular working class people who are not

so stop being distracted and getting your

you know

making a big fuss about critical race theory

when

the reality speaks for itself

w is that people have become aware of it

and what's even more extraordinary i think is that yal university has really only

i think fairly tepidly distance

sell from it it said that it

you know it didn't align with its core values but it really should have been a lot more strong i think on

in terms of condemning

into ble arna

killer nanni actually seems mith the fingures now there publicly

yeah

yes i mean you know if she if she deserves any prariise at all i

i have to give it to that she's sticking by what she said despite this massive global outrage of course i think she's completely bukus but

you know she's you know she's certainly been courageous in defending i don't care about this commentary stuff let's

let's continue to investigate more

conservatives and the debate over critical race

theory

the set of ideas known as critical race theory is fueling a national debate about how to acknowledge a legacy

of systemic racial inequities

some concern yeah this is manufactured anti s manufactured outrage one hundred percent

american propaganda a cult

and a virus more dangerous in the long term than covid nineteen

jennifer graham explored why some conservatives oppose

teaching critical race theory

in an article published by desert news

she also discussed why critical race theorists

see the framework of ideas as an overdue reckoning

with america's pat

jennifer graham joins me now she's a reporter who covers

conservative culture

an overdue reckoning with america's past we're gonna

sat up

stoll stupid bull shit

the're at deserret news

jennifer welcome great to have you with us

so you say supporters

and opponents

have both struggled to define critical race theory

what is your definite

because it's just

here's my suspicion my suspicion turned out to be right

it's just like cultural marxism it doesn't refer to anything real it's just a mean

that vaguely refers

to this new tendency of

you know

sourceal

it's just like s j w you know

well i'm not a scholar it so i would hesitate to be the person who gives the definitive

definition of critical rice theory

but i can tell you that the generally agreed upon

of definition would be the idea

that race is not a biological construct but that it is manmade

no that's not

that's not what it is

you know this is c b s trying to appeal to liberal boomers

and lying to them right to their face

liberal boomers are washing out oh yeah i rem yeah because that's the norm for america after world war two

that's not what critical race theory is that's a lie they're lying to their audience that is not what it is

that's something that is acceptable to everyone

it that's not what it is dude that's not what it is

and the idea that it was manmade as a way to oppress people to to

no here's what critical race theory is critical race theory is about

like structural racism and stuff it's not the truism

that race isn't biological which is

a very fringe view

it is not held by the mainstream

whatsoever

in america

to in a way to enforce white supremacy

and that all public policy needs to be adjusted to reflect this

and so

what do you think when conservatives are criticizing it what is the definition of critical race theory that they have in mind what

do they think it is that makes it a target

well part of the problem is the problem defining it right

because there's not a simple definition i we're talking about

academic theories that go back decades and came originated in the harvard academic community

among legal scholars

and so to different people critical race theory or c r t as it's

more easily th it means different things

and it's very easy to ascribe as

the editors of national reviews that brace oh god this is the most condescending liberal shit i've ever seen in my life

but a falck to

like

you know oky let me ask you a question

so you believe in this critical race theory but you're trying to sell people this idea

that the white liberal is going is the messiah that's going to

lead to it the enlightenment of america

and the um

the end of racism but you're a white liberal you're the one in power why were why are you going to voluntarily

secede your power

ah

her fruit like you don't like lu

what's the structural reason behind that

you know

play

to describe it in terms that are more memorable and more easily

let me tell you the truth about race in america

you heard it here you can quote it here

why do liberals care so much about race

because white liberals use

racial issues to one up their white peers

white liberals

use black people

to try to make themselves feel superior and better than their fellow white peers

that's all if pucking is

that's all it fucking is

and it is one hundred percent a form of white supremacy

bece they're using black people

because

these white people are mediocre right so they have to use black people

because otherwise they wouldn't be able to compete with their fellow white peers so the most mediocre

of white people use black people to get a leg up and one up their white peers oh i'm more interesting this is one this is the pathology of whiteness itself whiteness

is not

some kind of a

substantial thing

whiteness is just abstraction it's just negt the more abstract you are the more white you are so the more

self aware and conscientious of you know like i'm above it all i'm more pure i'm going to defeat racism because the more you try to abstract yourself

from your background in your culture that is what whiteness means whiteness doesn't mean

having a particular culture

and having a particular background

whiteness means

you're always trying to one up and put a leg over

you're the human

substantive reality

critical race theory is the

a quintessential form of white supremacy

critical race theory is white supremacist

because the position of criticism

academic criticism

is literally predicated upon white supremacy

to be at the necessary critical distance

requires institutions that are white supremacist in nature from our humanity

undefinable like an noxious

ideology

and so it's been easy to affix these level these labels to it

which have have made it easy kind of talking points for conservative radio and t

m

what specifically is it though that conservatives are pointing to when they say this is a serious threat to the country

and a setback

to race relations what specifically

are they referring

well the there's three problems as i see it as i hear articulated over and over again

and the first is that there is thinking that we're going backwards

that c r t is taking us to a place that we were decades ago where we looked primarily at the color of someone's skin and and made decisions

based on that

and many people in conservative circles have said that dr martin luther king jr

would have opposed this that he would have conducted sitens against this because it does seem on many levels to be kind of the opposite

of the ideals and principles that he said memorably espoused and his i have a dream speech about

this is my criticism of a lot of conservatives

they're selective hippies they believe in this hippi bullshid oh come on all together now we're all sd all live is matter and

it's selective hippie bullshit you know

ma you know malcolm x

uh was

much more

somebody who can

uh who would who um

white working class people

could understand better than this you know this dumb hippye bullshit

looking at content of character not color of skin

and critical race theory seems to make us look at color of skin again it takes us to a place

where we again craft public policy

and in some ways educate our children

based on this idiology which is all about the color of skin

ah right although i guess the

it's looking at the color of skin and seeing how outcomes have been different

because of that if i'm not mistaken

which is certainly the case in this country and it's and you know critical race theory has been around for decades

how is it evolved

and why is it now gaining more momentum why is it both being attacked and supported and why is it more in the you know the public lexicon

now at this moment

you raise a really interesting point because this is something that's been around for decades

but i think the average person on the street if you stopped interview them and and said when did you hear first hear this term they would say a month ago because it was something that kind of simmered in academic circles

it raised

its head briefly in the public arena during the clinton presidency

when his

at lanny gen are his nominee for assistant attorney general

some of her writings that was supporti of support of a critical race theory came to the forefront

and ultimately president clinton dissociated himself from that line of thinking

so it went back to the academy for a while but two things happened that caused it to resurface recently

and number one was in twenty nineteen the new york times published the sixteen nineteen sixteen nineteen

iject which proposed

a radical way of thinking about the founding of america

and then the year after that of course twenty twenty so radical so brave

so breathtaking

was when george floyd died

and so these two things together kind of created a perfect storm if you will of

societal conditions where if this was so ask yourself ask yourself a simple question

why is all this top done

why is all of this only among the elites

the elite of the elite

the people sipping margarito's in the

the wine sippers in their new york apartments

sky high apartments

and you know all these these the elite class

why is it only them

who buy into this shit

why does it all come from them

why does all of this come from the top down

if this is so subversive

so revolutionary

so radical if it's so radical

why do why does this all come from the elites in the elite culture

of our society

ask yourself that question

we were all

had this heightened racial sensitivity

and proponents of critical race theory very rightly saw an opportunity

to to put this forward and there were was a rash of books published last year

and many people were able

i think that the selective hippiness

has something to do with those conservatives still being liberals and larping like their continuation from the founders

and the eighties where like america was defined as fun in different against the boring soviet union very true

very true they're fake conservatives pretty much

to you know expound on these theories and bring them into the public arena

and in doing that it also it

kind of

and

when went over the fence in education for the first time

right it got to this place where it was now being talked about

as something that our schoolchildren need to learn and

if there's anything that gets conservatives upset it's about something being taught in public schools that they don't believe themselves or don't understand themselves

and that's what's real i brought it to the forth

let me look for them

ah

i'm looking spip

okay never mind

w front over the past couple of months

all right well jennifer graham thank you so much i think this is something that we'll all be talking about for we learned

we didn't learn much

we did learn a little bit

going to keep

searching

instead of boomer main is there like a vox thing about it or some shit like that

's the boomers

are not really

telling us much

god fox is going hard on this shit

box is going hard on this srein shiear

oh w prag are you

yes brag are you

try to go you

have you heard about critical race theory

i'm guessing you probably have

it has already insinuated itself into many institutions in a way

let me see

a a most likes than dislikes came rapid progress into others

if it takes hold it will completely change the very nature of america and the way you live

critical race theory holds that the most important thing about you

is your race

the color of your skin that's who you are

not your behavior not your values

not your environment

your reson i don't get

what is so new

about this

like

there's nothing do why did they why a the calling this critical race theory

they're just giving it a name

you know like

didn't they use to call his cultural marxism the same thing

what's so new

they invented a new word

for what

to me so like

a we found out the reason for this whole thing theorysll it that's exactly what's going on

it's just like the cultural marxism thing

worre it's like

they think that by like naming it

they're finding out the entire secret

oh why everyone's talking about race this critic theory all we have to do is defeat the critical race

theory and the w go away

a race

in critical race theory

if you are a member of a minoritized

tell me that prayer guy doesn't look like that slime with better posture

thank you so much ram saedev

yeah

he does

yctually does

no hye no cap he actually does

racial group

their term not mine

you're a victim of a system that is rigged against you

a system that doesn't want you to succeed

on the other hand

if your race is privileged

you're an exploiter

whether you intend to be or not isn't this white privilege theory like privile what's so new about this

is it are people i feel like

no here's what i think here's my hypothesis

regular normal people

um

are not for this is like the way to popularize it

like normal people

don't know about like this whole like white privilege discourse and all this stuff

they're finally like being introduced to it and they're giving it a name

critical race theory begins

from the assumption that racism occurs in all interactions

to see how this works

consider this thought experiment

imagine you own a shop

and two customers enter at the same time

one white

and one black

who do you help first

if you help the black person first critical race theory would say you did so because you don't trust black people to be left alone in your store

that's racist

if you help the white person first

what

what the fuck is this

it doesn't even make sense

what

instead

critical race theory would say you did so because you think blacks are second class citizens

that's racst too

that's critical race theory

it can find racism in

oh okay got

you do

and anything

even if it has to read your mind to do it

critical race theory is a uniquely american invention

brewed up at harvard law school in the seventies now part of the academic and media mainstream

let me tell you the truth let's ignore the hippy bullshit

and tell the truth

race in america has a reality there's a reality of race in america

there is

there is

there is

i don't know what he's talking about this storre

what

there's a reality of race in america

white people and black people have different realities

so how do we make sense of that

well

we don't have to do this

we don't have to listen to harvard or yale academics

but let's not be color blind let's not ignore facts

don't be a liar

there's a reality of a race in america

now what is that reality

does it mean white people are personally bad people now

that they're personally oppressing people now

that they're they're even personally racist

not really

innt y view personally racist there's a difference

b

let me tell you the truth this is the plain spoken truth ready

after the civil war

lincoln promised freed slaves

that they'd get forty acres in a mule

and it never happened

and ever since then

liberals have been dealing with america's race problems

by doing everything but giving black people a land

which they promised

and if you don't have land

you don't have anything

if you don't have land

you don't have family you don't have community

you don't have a solid basis to stand on

so it's going to lead to a lot of problems

it's all about land

then't say anything but land they'll do anything

but allow black people to have their own land

that's what all this shit ha is going on for

they just don't want to fulfill their promise of forty acres in a mule that's wy everything you're seeing

it's all about that

it's all about land it's always been about land

they'll do anything but give people lan

beuse you want to know why

because people like bill gates are buying up all the farmland

h

yeah

it is also uniquely un american

because it rejects the core tenets of the american classically liberal judeo christian value system

the american

classically liberal judao christian

they said classically liberal judao christian

what is okay

all this means that america is not muslim

so what the fuck are you talking about

critical late race theory is literally the most liberal

judalo christian invention ever

they don't have critical race theory in china they don't have it in russia they don't have it in the middle east they don't have it in africa they don't have it in asia they don't have it in south america they only have it in classically liberal anglo saxon judeo christian countries

it turns the bedrock american idea upside down

here it is in the words of richard delgado and jans de fonti

two leading proponents

critical race theory questions the very foundations of the liberal order

including equality theory

legal reasoning

enlightenment rationalism

and the neutral principles of constitutional law

it does this because critical race theory proponents

assume racism is present

everywhere and always

and they look for it critically until they find it

food blink twice holy shit

linked twice if you're ok

are you ok dude what's the f

and they always find it

it has to be there

because that's how the imperial european powers and then america

set things up

here as in all dangerous academic theories there is a kernel of truth

human beings were not preoccupied with race until the sixteenth century when europeans began to explore and then colonize other parts of the world

drawing distinctions between the races reached its peak in the one nine hunentred century with the widespread use of slave labor in north and south america

no one denies this

but since then the western world and most especially america has spent a lot of time

money

and blood

breaking free of its racs pat

c

it's like who will believe this you know like it's so stupid

oh yeah but since then it's a no no one buys that dude nobody fucking buys that

nobody buys this idea

that there's no race in america no one buys

even racist people

acknowledge it

even racist people acknowledge it in a bad way yeah

but no one denies no one thinks

that america doesn't have these huge racial problems because it does

pamst

it's been a rocky road for sure

but great progress has been made

critical race theory says all this progress is a mirage

racism never died never even faded a little bit

it just hit itself better

critical race theory therefore is not a continuation

of the civil rights movement

it is in fact a repudiation of it

to critical race theoris martin luther king was both wrong and naive

white americans can never judge blacks by the content of their character

they can only judge them

always unfavorably consciously or unconsciously

by the color of their skin

ironically

not since the aryan obsession in germany in the nineteen thirties and nineteen forties

or south african apartheid in the second half of the twentieth century

has the social movement been so obsessed

with race

critical race theory is then in a very real sense a counter american revolution

oh god here we go

here we go

a counter amil my god

but that's a positive

not a negative to those who subscribe to the theory

the american experiment was given a four hundred year tryout

and it doesn't work

so let's wrap it

that's what they believe

is that what you believe

i'm going to guess that most of you don't

so how do we stop critical race theory before it infects the brains of too many decent americans

especially young people

and turns us into something we have never been od

let me tell you why it's fucking retarded

look ok here's the issue right we all want to judge people by the content of their character

and as individuals

that's a great that's how you should be individually

but you can also respect

that people come from different backgrounds

and their sense of normal is different their sense of what makes sense is different than you

like

you can judge people from

from india by the contents of their character but guess what

they grew up in india and in india they do things differently than how they do it where you come from

it's not a stretch to say that white people and black people have different culture different ways of life

and different experience of reality

so you can judge people by the contents of their character but sometimes

when you're doing that you're not taken into account

that they come from a different culture than you

and you should respect that

it might not make sense to you

but it makes sense to them

see

that's what i say when it comes to the ship

and shouldn't ever want to be

the answer is simple

refused to accept it

don't be intimidated by the heads i win tails you lose logic of this self destructive america hating

anti reality idea

don't be bullied into think

what

self destructive america hating anti reality ideal

there are so many ways to just say that you think something is wrong

but calling it anti reality is like

thd fucking on seems like

speaker

super brain dead

idea

don't be bullied into thinking that you're racist when you know you're not

or that you're a victim when you know you're not

defend yourself

while you still can

one

what do you mean

i'm james lindsay

founder of new discourses

for pgor university

blink twice dude and what do you mean defend yourself

while you still can

oh super ominous dude

thank you

you for watching this video

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yes

oh i good

what but netanyahu ousted from power after twelve years

what is this

a president biden also congratulated israel's new prime minister ne tali bennett

he formed a coalition government ousting benjamin netanyahu from power

b s is charlie daga in jerusalem has more on this political new prime

mister n tolly bennett

but said that who is bennett like who does he represent lives

in an afternoon punctuated with cheers and jeers from both sides netanyahu struck a defiant tone in what sounded nothing like a farewell sp

if we are destined to go into the opposition he said

yah he's far right he's liquurd

you will do so with our heads held high

until we can bring down this government

the coalition government holds a razor thin majority

and netanyahu is still the head of the largest single political party parliament

the political upheaval comes just weeks after israel's military conflict with hamas militants in gaza

and maintaining a fragile peace with its palestinian neighbors will be one of the biggest challenges facing the new government

the new coalition is unlike any that has come before

it crosses a political spectrum from the far left to the far right

and for the first time isn't the

oh day whatever that got joint list aren't they part of this

includes an arab party among them

joint list ight deep divisions remain but for those who have been pushing and protesting for benjamin netanyahu to go for months there is cause for celebration

in a speech here at the kennesset prime minister bennett thanks president joe biden in the united states for backing israel during the joint list is the centrist muslim party

conflict with hamas last months

and warned hamasu

that if the militants again resort to violence

they will meet a wall of steel

barrol

charlie daga in jerusalem th you know th the pink isral flag

good evening and welcome to tucker carlson tonight was almost two years ago during the democratic presidential primary

commea harris

heared on c n n

to explain where she stood in the race now at that moment harris had just been memorably and

completely humiliate

by tulsey gabbert of hawaii during a televised debate

so she needed to explain what itd just happened

here's what she said quote

i'm obviously a top

here candada

harris said

and so i did expect that i would be on the stage and take hits tonight

now if you're following the race at that moment

she's a top tier candidate

your child

fact come harris was not a top

your candidate not then

not ever

not since the day she

actually announced

now on paper she had seemed like a very serious contender she was a united states senator

from the country's biggest state

she was a former prosecutor who enjoyed nearly universal support among washington post reporters

and m s and b c

so it seemed for a while like it could work why wouldn't it work

well here's whaty

the problem was on soual voters found her

repellan

well shit don't need to guess about this we on guys

that's what's here

i never guess that

yes

the food just appeared

bts no there is no bts here

ok

there's no bts

there is a case of dia

look at these guys

you have the number

the more commea harris they got the more repelled they

he

by december harris was losing to andrew yang in her own state

the majority of california democrats

primary

kamala harris

is literally the definition of

the death of democracy

she was universally so unpopular

that joe biden had to appoint her the vice president

and therefore the future president becae joe badens too old

and she would have never

been able to see any power

besides that

ory po

said they wanted her to drop out of the rce

harris was even getting crushed in iowa

tiny state where she had spent virtually all of her money

so even in a business that is famous for awarding falseness

kmala harris was just

too phony to win

she was too fake for politics

so the question is

how did comme harris wind up effectively in charge of the entire country

that's a question that historians of democracy will spend decades pond

democracy being you'll remember

school

a system in which citizens get to choose their own leaders

yet apart from a few handlers around joe biden

nobody really chose kme harris

it's a pretty amazing story actually it's frustrating

but it's also deeply amusing

so take a moment

once in a while just to pause a respite

to enjoy the

pure hilarious absurdity

of miss commala ded harris you'll find it refreshing

so this is a fully vaccinated person who

kamala is going to be president in to yell

to you

to and o come on as president

c'e on you have to yell

to you until you'r president

who recently kissed her fully vaccinated husband

well both of them wearing surgical masks and then pretended it was entirely normal just like you do at home

kissing your vaccin husband with a surgical man

this is the daughter of two college professors

who tells you with a straight face that she grew up

who were

and depressed

under jim crow in california

this is a person who can't stop lecturing about american values what this country stands for

despite the fact she didn't really grow up here

actually harris went to high school in montreal and yet and this is the amazing part

even in french speaking canada she now tells

quote

many generations of her

indian and jamaican family somehow celebrated

onanza

that's a holiday that was invented in los angeles in one thousand nine hundred and sixty six and we could go on but let's summarize it for you

how fake is commela harris

we'll put it this way

she can't even decide how to pronounce her own

first name

we've heardr say at least two different ways

with maximum confidence

imagine being her amala or kamala

what would your life be like

well among other things you'd be terrified at any moment of being pulled off

script

because once you were off the script what would you say

how would you know you don't even know who you are

something like that just happened

when harris spoke

her friend

over at n b c news

watch

do you have any plans

to visit the border at some point you know it

we are going to the border we've been to the border

so this whole this whole this whole thing about the border we've been to the border

we've been to the board you haven't been to the board

and i haven't been to europe

and i mean i don't i don't

what a fuck

she hasn't been to europe

what a funck does it have to do with going to the border

you don't share a border with europe camala

the reason the

they're pressing you about the border

it's because you and the rest of the libs wouldn't shut up about it

when trump was in office

and the same thing's still going on

so you should go visit the border what that what does it have to do with europe

don't understand the point that you're making

i've never been to spain but i kind of like the music

i don't understand the point you're making

coaus she doesn't understand the point

no one ever asked he real questions when was last time that happened

telsey gaber was probably the last person to do it

and in the almost two years since

harriss continued to ascend how she do that will purely on the basis of how she looked

meanwhile because it is so improbable that

someone this

unimpressive has become so powerful

the people in charge are forced to assure us

almost with hysteria

that she is brilliant

and impressive

in order to prepare the rest of us for her nevitable march to the white house

they've had to create a soviet level cult of personality around her and we're not exaggerating look around

the l a times which was on i'm going to wash my hands and put this away one said

thk

b n

only goe for two seconds

don't talk about the chaer

news organization

one point

announced that harris was getting her own section in the newspaper

that is news dedicated exclusively

to me harris

readers get their business news that international news and then their critical mala harris news she's now her own category of news

the paper called the new section

covering comm heri

not surprisingly the first dispatch from the l a times is new comala harris bureau

didn't focus on her policy accomplish

that would have been a pretty thin segment

sec

instead

the paper covered the way she looked

bll

pamela harris is all kinds

the first woman

first woman of color the first black woman the first mixed race woman and south asian elected to national office

so in other words

what really matters about commel harrison what should matter

you according to the ne

is her d n a it's really kind of a science prodct

disney went further than that

comme harris disney explained to your kids re

isn't actually a political leader

she's more than that

she's like a god

what

once there was a young girl

who used her voice to make the world around her

a better place some say the odds were stacked against her but her mother had big plans for this little flower freedom fighting in her blood she led a successful protest

so kids could continue to play and became part of a divine group of leaders

t

she rose to places that no woman had did they see divine

did they actually say divine

no fucking way

did they say di divine

hm

what do you mean to by

fidx

what

mhmm

they didn't say divie no they did no they did's stacked against her but her mother had big plans for this little flower freedom fighting in her blood she led a successful protest

so kids could continue to play and became part of a divine group ofs

wait what

kids could continue to play and became part of a divine group of leapers

oh it's defiant not divine it's defiant

she said defiant

set the fire

okay

mm

one

it's defiant they said defiant

not divine

this is still weird it's still and it's a fraud it's fraudulent

kamala harris had nothing to do with the civil rights movement it was made up

pleaders

t

she rose to places that no woman had front line activist to madam vice president she will use her voice to run this nation and inspire it to commal harris making her story

if i had kids this is why i'm not having kids because if i did

they're not allowed to watch t v

they're not allowed to watch tv

my kids will not be allowed to watch t v

they would not be allowed to watch t v

this is so weird

and so dark

i might move to lenan i might move to lenan i'm thinking about it i'm a dual citizen you guys know that i'm a dual citizen

i might just move there i think i can move there

i might just

and for all the people saying oh ben do it ben do it i actually might

actually i might actually do that

i literally might do that dude

i might do that

i'm a dual citizen there

i might do it i'm not even kidding i might do it

okay if i have a family i'm leaving america

if i have a family i'm not living in america no more

isn't lebanon's economy in the guttter right now

yeah

that's why i have to figure it out

um

no michigan nationalism

look at this dude i don't want i don't want to raise my kids with this shit i don't want to raise my kids in this country

this is a crazy country psychotic country it's like a crazy clown

it's a crazy killer clown country you know

it's super disturbing come to china

once in the chad if i should go to china this summer i actually can

i can go to china this summer

on'ce in a chat if i should

would you guys want that

can i stream from china

n i stream from china

i can i go in july maybe

shure right

can you stream in china yes

dead ghost how's the internet in china is it good is the internet good in china

i have a spare room i don't worry about it dude

five g it's good internet

all i need to do is e

figure out about the

the gims

i gotta figure out about jems

twitch is blocked in china but yeah but there's probably like

ways to get around it that people use

the twitch app is shit always buffering in china it is

i have to think about the times nzo actually i don't know

what about the time zones irel in china would be pretty cool

i might just go to china dobe

gym member here

you'd be live streaming a crime house

they do that in china they don't give a shitt they don't give a flug

you coln record stuff and post it when you get back

true

this switch is blocked

not a crying dude

not a crime

they don't know anything about china they literally don't care

censorship is not actually about preventing access

censorship is about making an official statement

censorship is not about

ah

it's not about them

it's not about preventing access

it's about making an official statement about

whether you consider this recognized by the government

and it is also about market access

two

people stream twitch from china one hundred percent

yeah i might do it i might do i don't know for sure but i might

i don't know for sure

i'm not one hundred percent

but i'm going to start

thinking about it like i'm going to start

thinking

i'll billu air

next time you see someone walking across the top of your swimming pool it's probably came harris

she became part of a do don't get our hopes up

why not

divine

group of leaders

divine in literal

it's like the dalai lama

king kim jong

she shot an eighteen in her last round of golf

now coma harris does have a kind of

appealing humility so shes in com par slf to god she prefers the superhero analysis

in fact our own book is called

superhero n know what time is it in china china is like the opposite so it's seven thirty a m right

time in china

ye at seven thirty a m so it's literally the opposite

so the time is zone twelve hours yeah

that

wind up at the migrant

tension facility

if you haven't seen it or if loking for more comme harris books there's a whole assortment

you can get her niece's book

that's called kamala and mays big idea

i'd probably go for like

a week or two maybe two weeks

what's the idea we couldn't

and if your kids are interested of course they are they can buy the quote

youth

oriented edition of mal harris's ghost written memoir

and of course

because why wouldn't there be

we now have mla harris

theme

food in this case

based goods apparently made by the united states military

on our way to guatemala this

n on the plane

commel harris walked to the back to hand out cookies not just any cookies not oreos

not fig newtons cookies in the shape

of kamalahrris

one usa today reporter

thrilled excitedly snapped a picture quote

the v p made a visit to the back of the plane and delivered cookies decorated with the shape of her like

o

so comea harris isn't just a vice president she's a star

she's a major historical figure indeed she's god

and if you say that enough

you tend to kind of believe it that's where media finds

elf they believe it did you see destiny responded to logo dataless on twitter

no

some wi link it only mods can link to it actually

what

d ms me on discord

question

so as she headed to latin america this

and they had the highest

possible

from the night that kamalaharris made history as the first woman

the first person of color elected vice president

she made clear that winning a seat at the table was just the first step and her highest profile assignment so far

a solo trip to guatemala and mexico this weekend

to tackle the root causes of the surge of migration the symbolism of having a mom a mom of color up there talking you know about these situations i think it is important theld of immigrants first black first south asian woman

this is a nightmare do this is a nightmare country

these people rule us do they rule us

think i'm gonna leave america

i don't want to be ruled but i don't want to deal with this i don't want to deal with this dude i don't want to deal with this

i literally don't want to deal with this stude i don't

is going to represent us in guatemala today i mean i would really kill to be of a fly on that wall in those meetings remeber she is the first woman vice president she's the first woman of color vice president and this trip will start to shape how americans view her

the fact that comma harris is visiting there is the first woman female vice president

the first woman of color to visit that region

i can also go to cuba

i have a way to go to cuba

i have worked

contexts i have a way to go to cuba

like this summer

but i don't know if i want to

herself a child imigant

that speaks violues as well to the people of those countries

well in addition to everything else she's a mom now

we didn't know that

but most to the point

really the

please go

the problems i couldn't stream it

so it'd be like i would be taking a vacation from the internet

i don't think cuba has high speed internet

does he not like live streaming

internet

no

of the theme here

is that she is a quote

person of color

sunni

person of color goes to latin america to be on other quote

people of color

it's a love mat

there's three places i can go there's three places i can go

like very soon like this summer

i'm going to ledan

i can go to cuba and i can go to china

they're going to love me harris in latin america

it's obvious that's how our credential class thinks people of color love people of color

unfortunately for comme harris that is not i can stay here

not actually how latin americans

thank

latin america is not america

latin america is a traditional

side

people latin america are still allout to their great credit to say obvious things

they haven't been trained by their leaders to censor their unapproved thoughts so sometimes they just go ahead and utter them

as comma harris found out yesterday when she arrived

in guatemala

her motorcade was mobbed by protesters

not trying to get her autograph or by her superhero book

but telling her to get the hell out of their country

come and go home read one plaque

another sign near the presidential palace this one really hurt read this

pame

trump we

now to a certain kind of liberal

this was shocking where was this

where was this and some in the press pool seemed shocked by it

but they shouldn't have been shark

knowledge of all people know what political corruption looks like because they guys chill chill

we're talking about guatemala guatemala's based

forupsist

and they looked up the united states and they saw the presidential election wasn't exactly on the level because it was

they knew that all the powerful people in the u s were on one side joe biden side

and so they trusted the outcome well

and then they said it

and by the way and this maybe hurts me it's a great country beautiful country

moirst of all it m s n b c is going to have a lot of trouble digesting this

but it

true

some guatemalan

can you go to hell

can you suck my cock

yes you can and i know this because you're doing it now

i hate watching me

actually support donald trump

and that doesn't shock

people who've been paying attention

who does your v c r band redundant paster

get in my vc or your band

see your ban

bom bom bom bom bom bom bom bom bom bom bom bom bomb

bom boom bom bom bom bom bom bom bom bom bom boom

let's find a redundant toaster

see this

oh rouss and rom

' come back in twelve days

guatemalan have more in common with

let's be honest

camela harris

or donald trump

not even close

among other things latin america to this day is still a vigorous patriarch

so it turns out that gender bending academic post modern feminism

doesn't make sense there it's

totally confusing to your average campus youo they think it's absurd

and they're right

it is

so in guatemala

it's pretty hard to sell comme harris as a god

commonly ir says lookn be treated like god su to go to london or some other populations hate themselves and hate their own culture

that stuff doesn't work in central america

and what i should have to isn't this their job but they didn't know because it turns out that addition to being hard edged ideologued which they are

a lot of these people are actually pretty incompet

they're not quite sure what they're doing by watching carefully

they're flying b l m flags from american embassy

around the world

why are they doing that so peoplei love us

but in real life no one outside america is impressed by a b l m flag throu one hundred percent facts

factual factual

stanis was saying he would destroy me then tell him to get in v c

toms again in v c

outside the m

fact i think it's

pthetic why

because it's in

intentional self conscious display

of week

and guess what no one on earth actually

week

if you wanted the world to like you

you would show strength you might

by the

gaston flag

don't tread on me

people in guatemala wi get that

they respect it

they might even like us more

you know what they don't like

fringing self hatred

that's disgusting to them

see tucker's from as he doesn't go too far enough

talker all you have to do is

say

that

castillo is the real guy for lanam you know

see tucker here's the difference talker talker let me tell you something in latin america

you would be a liberal snowflake

you know that tucker

in latin america

you would be a liberal snowflake

stuck in cities

having nothing to do with the people

you would be a liberal snowflake in latin america

you would be an urban night

back to all

pak to unfortunate inconvenient truth

and to most people

it's a feature of human natures universal

now tony blinkin is the secretary of state you'd think you would understand that he's america's top diplomat

apparently doesn't

at every opportunity he is so flagile

in front of the entire

here's a selection

for the united states to be a credible force for human rights around the world we have to face the realities of racism and hatred here at home we can't sweep our shortcomings under the rug or pretend they don't exist we need to face them openly and honestly even if that's ugly even if that's painful that's how we live up to our values

when is george floyd censored on twich someone told me he was censored on twich shit

is he

no he's not he's not he's not

it's just that the video of him being killed

it' the video of him being killed yet

it's not painful for the rest of the world to watch a moron like tony blainkuld talk about how terrible america is

is not painful

it's laughable

it's ridiculous

the administration sincerely believes the rest of the world deeply appreciates we get up and beat us ourselves up for sins that

took place one hundred years ago

they think

central american

are impressed by your b l m flax

no

they're not impressed and they're not impressed by comme harris they just laugh and tell us to go away

true dude but they're not impressed that much by trump either when you're right you're definitely right

he sean hannity here hey definitely right about that i saan hanity sat up

my son nnthy here

sn had a year

oh let me see

ll right let's see what's going on with logo

destiny please for

the sake

for my saf give me a quick summary of the history of the aflcio

you trust cn n more than fox news

no

you mean the history where the federal government had to literally step in and bust racist union practices

that explicitly kept p o c out of working better jobs like seniority for new positions

i wish more people understand this

unions don't make the world a better play so what this is it

never mind

this is it

that's it

is that it

is that it

is that it

everyy pa girs feed ok

fascism is a far right system of finally someone's defining fascism

ethno nationalism and racism

ye that's an important one

strict regimentation of society

dicke this is all vague bullshit

no one can define fascism

aright here it is

ok

ok yeah i did see this one

i wish more people understood this so this what destiny said

i wish more people understood this

unions don't exist to make

you going on des net

ineed he quotes

weeds logo

unions don't exist to make the world a better place or make outcomes fair balance unions exist to counterbalance to capital interest

by representing labor interests that's all they are meant to do

ok

it's very simple the error destiny maes here right

destinyes assuming

that

these things exist

for some reason

planned by a subject like

that they exist for a reason

like

someone engineered a system in which unions will do this

and courts i sorry unions will do this and capital will do that

in reality

unions and capital interests emerge historically

for reason is not dictated by some subject

so no

unions do not exist for this reason

because that assumes all social phenomena exists

the are some kind of government planned social ends

that's why i say we live in socials detin not

is a socialist he

he thinks like the world is soci he thinks in a socialistic way like

unions exist and capital exists ultimately for

some social purpose some purpose that fulfils some kind of political ends

or some kind of common ends

or some kind of

intelligible ends

in reality they don't exist for some other ends they exist for their own sake

within a historical context

yeah unions exist because of an objective class struggle

not to be fear to destiny

unions were integrated into the government

after world war two more or less

and the the whole state government bureaucracy

so i guess they you know theyre they were supposed to have a certain purpose but that's not why they exist

you see that's not why they exist

a

this is all they are meant to do meant by whom like

what do you

who do you imagine is the architect of this

meant for them to do this this is like creationism right this is like this idea that

uh dogs exist for you know i mean like it's like a very strange way of

it's like a it's like a destiny assumes

that unions and capital interest was designed by a game dev in the game devi is just balancing and nurving one and bal like no thatss not how it works

wasn't created by a game devi dude

so logo pretty

prey

pretty sutenttly responded he said

well that's like saying courts don't exist to make the world a better place

or make outcomes more fair

courts exist as a counterbalance to physical force

by representing the interests of peasants who cannot command mercenary forces

like um

and

so logos contrasting

the self identified reason for why courts exist which is the self courts exist

to make outcomes more fair that's why courts exist according to

the institution of courts right

ah

what's you know

this is the historical reason why courts emerged

but it's not why or

it's not the reason they exist

in an ethical way right

they don't ethically they don't justify themselves on the basis of

being a counterbalanced but even like this is how they emerged historically but that's not

the reason they exist for if that makes sense right

cootes

emerged as a counterbalance to physical force by representing the interests of peasants who can't command mercenary armies true

but to say that this is the ethical or moral reason why they exist is to assume that some grand architect designed this scenario and that's not true it's a totally historically

contingent scenario

that no one designed and no architect created

so this is logo's

point

um

destiny is a midwood because he has no historical imagination

and can't conceive of class relations because class are historically established

and not derived from some analytical position out of time so what logo means

is that

it's not as though some kind of

social engineer who exists outside of time

just created all of these things for some reason

right

these exist for

themselves ultimately right

and they exist

because of historical reasons right

so it's a very it's kind of like the is aught distinction it's the difference between

why something exists

in the um

causial sense i suppose

and why something exists in the ethical sense and this is a kantian distinction

that

destiny seems to not be able to

wrap his head around

right

there is nothing essentially ethical about the

a procession of rights from the aristocracy to the peasantry

an

um

you just assume you're outside of time and you're not

it's a very subtle distinction we're dealing with here

you know um

now destiny responded to that

by saying but this is true

courts don't exist to make the world

better they exist to enforce laws on the books

ok that's n you missed the point though

you completely miss logo's point logo is not saying courtz exist to make the world better

he's saying there's a difference

between why courts exist

in and of themselves and for themselves

there's a difference why there's a difference between why courts exist in a normative and ethical sense

and why courts exist in a causal objective or material sense there's a discontinuity

between the way in which an institution justifies itself

and its actual material basis

you cannot confuse the two

it's a ridiculous thing to confuse the two if you confuse the two

then you're going to make the assumption that some kind of grand architect

purposefully designed

the material circumstances out of which courts emerged

for some purpose

which is

ridiculous

um

i

if the reason why unions exist is to counter capital interests

to be a balance against capital interest then there must be some type of corporate

some type of mediative organ

for which this ethical or moral duty exists for in other words

if this is the reason why they exist for

there has to be some

thing that guarantees that

that instantiates that fact that fact

in reality

you know destiny has a big problem right

destiny has a problem

with some

destiny has a problem with hold on

what am i looking at

destiny has a big problem

confusing

destney has a problem confusing

but isn't destiny's first tit

more addressing how unions exist today not why no he said why

he said hy this is what they exist for

m

but dessey has a problem with

this is i'm going to crack the code of destiny right this is going to crack destiny's code this is cracking the code of destiny ready

what destiny does is he looks at the world right

and he says

is the world rational

and destiny says yes the world is rational

he begins with that pmise

as if the world is rational

if

i could begin from scratch

and we had a blank slate

would i recreate the world that now exists

the same way

and destiny

decides to

judge reality on that basis

he has to find a way to justify everything that already exists

as though it exists

for itself for some ethical moral reason

and not just in itself for some historically contingent

or material reason

so what destiny will do is he'll look at

criticisms of how the government in america worsi no no there's a perfectly good reason why it works and here's why

and therefore if it destiny to be the grand architect who creates and reconstructs the world from scratch

he would

create it so

the problem with the way destiny thinks though

is that

he envisions the world as purely objective but that world includes human beings

this is the whole thing wrong with liberals like destiny like when it came to biden like

the people are a reality they're part of objective reality

you can't just say

for example

biden has no choice because he has to deal with

the other half of the country who disagreeed them oh why do they disagree with him why was bon biden unable to win over those other fifty per cent he is responsible for that you can't just treat them

as though they're not human beings and they're just some

purely objective reality devoid of any human element

so that's destiny's problem

he doesn't take into account the reality

it's comprised of

human beings

he just assumes the world is how it is for

a reason

acess to the world as it appears

exist

for a reason

and that if there was if you could begin from scratch

he would

he would recreate the world we live in now on the basis of how he premises

their rational justification

but there's a discontinuity

between the rational

justification that you give subjectively

and the actual material premise the rational

justification in reality itself

does the existence of sentience bend the object nonm this is a ridiculous distinction

see destiny ended up being

a hagelian in the end the rational is actual and the actual is rational

no

because a angle said

the r the real is rational it's not the by the way actual it's real it's the real

the real is rational and the rational is real

but not without further qualification which means

there's a difference between what is real

and what is aparent

what is real is developing

what is apparent is a fixed mental image in time

stanis is in the show quue ok

i to say

there you go

let's bring stanis on

ya hello

hey can you hear me before we start

everything all good

yeah i can hear you

g what's op

so i heard you you had you had a

you had a bad business with you

yes a few months ago when we debated

mmhmm

and i think you were destroyed i don't know do you feel that way

ah absolutely not i do not feel that way

okay uh so

perhaps we can go again

so what would you like to talk about

i what you mean you're the one who wanted to come on

well there's a lot of things we can talk about

i guess we can talk about the u s government and

i know you're a leftist so you don't really like the state or establishment

okay

and i just like to assert that the united states government hasn't done anything wrong and all of its actions

justified moral and legal

ok why should we care about your assertion

i think it's wrong that you were spreading prenous myths on trem such as the u s government is bad when it's clearly clearly not so

but give frey

ya

okay why should i care

you disagree

disagree with what

what i just said right now

about the u s government

i think the us government is doomed to

allaps

ya that's just

pure left is delusion

okay

why do you think it won'll collapse

i mean why do you think it will collapse i don't see why good question good question

okay

i think the material foundation of american statehood has been outmoted

think the american state is facing contradictions that is unable to rise above

ok and such contradictions are

sure let's see where do we begin

well

american state is build u on the foundations of nineteenth century liberalism for example

and we are living in a post liberal era in which we cannot

any longer afford

to treat all subjects of the law

um

indiscriminately as complete

indiscriminate subjects of the law regardless of for example a

particular national ethnic and so on and so on realities

ah there's also a big contradiction

between the way in which

we respect the authority of the law

which is through media it's mediated right not just media in terms of

social media and television media but media in general right

the media in which the state exercises its authority

enters into contradiction

with the state itself

the law itself

could you expand on that first part the media

yeah yeah so for example

we respect the authority of the state in america we this we are cognizant of the reality of the state

in america

through media

through media

some kind of media right

but this media is not monopolized by the organs of the state itself

and as a matter of fact this media

ah contradicts

the reality of the state itself

i just don't see the contradiction i don't see anything with

wrong with the which you said earlier about the state and the media but

i just don't see how it's contradictory

like

well don't don't take it from me take it from the mainstream media which who are a

always talking about the rise of fake news

the ways in which people now find authority and legitimacy

in what they're learning and

spreading on social media as opposed to the law just look at the aftermath of the election in twenty twenty

when people refused to accept the outcome of joe biden being elected president

andh and were listening to trump instead

trump

was using twitter for example

to communicate

his authority as president

and once he was deposed as president

legally and officially

he was not deposed

in terms of the authority he exercised on the media

so that's a very clear example of the contradiction

i just don't see it again

and i think the better question is do you think the u s government is

actively working to advance our interests or

are they just evil and corrupt

it's both

of course they

experienced their purpose as advancing

the interest well let me tell you something

america has noted a people's republic like china so it has no duty or obligation to advance the interests

of the american people actually

the uus government exists for the purpose

of safeguarding the institutions of the u s government

and ultimately

ultimately making sure and this is the foundation of america itself

making sure government does not go beyond the bounds of precisely this its own predefined institutions

h

now

of course with the new deal and beyond

the government had to start taking into account the welfare of the people

in order to prevent its own dissolution

a and to compete obviously with world communism and world socialism

and keep it at bay

so

the there is actually no official reason that the u s government has to actively work

on behalf of the interests of the american people

it's not but there's no it's not enshrined in any institution there's no institution

which enshrines that

but they still do that right

actively

work for our interests and

to better our welfare and those of and they they the

they try i don't know i don't know it's very debatable

ah sometimes they do in the past

and oftentimes they don't

oftentimes they don't of course oftentimes they don't

like can you give a specific example

sure uh

let's do the best on the raq war

sure

yeah

and what way was the iraq war in the interests of the american people

well um

iraq wasn't like a threat to america rather it was a threat to

its interests global security

and its allies

okay but

that sounds like um

a lot of buzzwords but how

directly was it a threat to the american people

to the american to the american people on

probably not so much of a big threat as let's say al qaeda is or

isis even one can argue but

i see sos a very reason

ok you think it's necessary but how is that an example of advancing the interests of the american people

because i can give you ways in which it hurt the interests of the american people

okay let's hear it

okay fine

ah the money we had to spend on the iraq war could have otherwise been used for domestic purposes to benefit the american people

the amount of lives lost by soldiers

ah could have otherwise been used to defend the american people

the creation of more instability within the region endangers americans both here and globally

america

americans have a target on their back

and created a lot of enemies that it otherwise may have not

so you see there's a lot of bad things that resulted from

the iraq war

and so far as the interests of the american people are concerned

rather than not

yeah sure there were a lot of bad things that happened as a result of the war for example like a trillion

dollars spent that's not cheap by any means but still not as big as what people claim it like six to seven million

trillion

secondly on

i just

don't see again how

you think we weren't advancing the interests of the american people when

it's intrinsically connected to our national security objectives and

what does that mean concretely

okay so um

you're

you're on

problem with this i guess is

the iraq war

wasn't

for the interests of the american people correct

no i was giving you an example of

a way in which the u s government acted in a way that was completely indifferent to the interests of the american people

i mean i don't think that's true at all like

ok so in what way or in what way does the iraq war benefit the american people

because it benefited us

strategically militarily what does that mean

there's a lot of steps you have to take until you get to the part where it actually matters to regular ordinary americans like

i get that you're saying within the global chess game and the ultimate

but you're you know

at that point you're not dealing with facts or proof you're dealing with meaningless hypotheticals that have nothing to do with the reality of the american people like

like a

there's a lot there's a lot of steps between

the iraq war

and russia taking over america and red dawn paratroopers you know

um enslaving americans in camps and all this kind of stuff so like what

in what way does the iraq war benefit the american people

without taking five hundred science fiction steps

because it is within our nation it is within our interests as a nation to enforce global security

ok wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait

but you

you just giving me pentagon buzzwords i'm asking you how it benefits the american people

how how do the american people benefit like if i'm in a if you're if the american people right living their life

how does it affect your life in a positive way

it doesn't have to

so how does it benefit their interests

how do they measure that benefit

i mean it doesn't have to

go for interests of

are a civilians

been justified

so ok not civilians so what dick cheney

the the government basically

so the government benefits

yeah correct

okay well that's different from the american people

and the people of iraq too and

surrounding we're not talking about the people of iraq we're talking about the american people and

which is actually who our government exists for

and on behalf of

with america

is sovereign only in so far as is

rules over america and the american people

yeah i think we can both agree on that

i know i know guys i know the whole thing about the people of iraq benefit is just outrageously stupid but let's not pivot

is worth staying througd i think it's ou uh self evidently stupid

it's self evident iraqis don't feel that way

iy don't feel that way

do you have any like surveys or polls

any survey or poll you are going to find is going to confirm that iraqis do not feel that their lives are better off

after the iraq war

so is there still systematic widespread and extremely grave violations of human rights and of the international human law

by the government of iraq

ho you entery here

what does that have to do with

what the iraqi people feel is in their own best interests

i'm talking about the well being of the iraq you're talking about international institutions ultimately created by america and its allies why should i care what they think i'm asking you

you said it's the iraqi people are better off what according to american institutions i'm asking you if they're better off

according to the iraqi people themselves

who are the ones who actually matter by the way

when it comes to this

i think we'd have to consider a lot of things the feelings of the iraqi people statistics

among other things

no i think it's mainly the

sentiment and feelings and lived experiences of the iraqi people and you can also measure

the things like the

health care and schools and education and jobs and economic opportunities and things of that nature

a iraqis have it much worse off than under saddam just like libyans have it much worse off

than they had under gaddafi these are self evident facts that are refuted by its not true

which one is not true

h what you just said about libya

ohh libya is libyans now enjoy a better standard of living

then they get under god off what us under good offi

so wait wait wait now it's better than we doc your sources from

okay

i will challenge you to find a single source that will say

the standard of living in libya has improved

since gaddafi was overthrown compared to life under gadhafi

all right i'll link you

something

go ahead link me something the avenu or where

yeah d mma to me

ok one moment

consider this thesis by austin gaddafi weighing outcomes of you know ok where's the part that measures that libya's standard of living is now better

you just linked me a book

you linked me a eighty nine page book

this is not a source i can work with or i can verify on stream

it's not a book first of all and secondly the aforementioned quote

explains everything

which quote you can control i

i sent oh thus

aus

but i'll not not be us in

and worse than thus cannot be ok thus it cannot be argued ok

now what is the reason it gives for this

it gives the reason that

as the impacts of terrorist activity and conventional weapons proliferation have not been significantly harbur or destabilizing libya their surrounding dates

this issue

are not

what

and how can it prove that the the impacts of terrorist activity and conventional weapons proliferation

have not been significantly harbor or destabilizing in libya one libya doesn't even have a central government and has been experiencing a civil war even since in the years since or the surrounding states i don't see how it's relevant to libya these issues are not sufficient to label the intervention as a failure

similarly while the impact on non proliferation efforts was regrettable

it was not sufficient enough to outweigh the interventions aim of protecting human life and human rights while relevant security issues neither terrorist activity nor weapons issues are sufficient to outweigh human life

and human rights well first of all

human life implies that more people died under gaddafi than they did in the war sinse which is a

verifiable lie

second human rights is an abstraction that i don't care about libyans don't care about and no one cares about except america and their allies thus it cannot be argued that the intervention worsened

ah no argument was made to support this i don't see any statistics i don't see any data

i see paragraphs and i see claims about

ah strange and bizarre claims lets i'm taking this out of context

that

terrorist activity and conventional weapons have not been significantly harmful or destabilizing in libya

i don't if you don't think a civil war is destabilizing

and the proliferation of isis and al qaeda is destabilizing

i don't know what you think would be considered destabilizing if you don't think libya was destabilized i don't know

what an example of destabilization would be

this is like saying the liberian civil war was not significantly harmful or destabilizing for the liberian people well you can link me a paragraph that says that

but that does not persuade me

you're just speaking words strung up in nonsense fashion and i'll get to that later and secondly you said that

what matters

is to define like a proper intervention would be

what the libyans think right like if theh was bad

well how do you cope with the fact that forty fifty four percent of libyans approve the u s intervention

and aid in the west

a link it

weill sowed onstream

ok and this is the gallop hole

opinion briefing

libyan's eye new relations with the west u s approval among highest ever recorded by gallup in the menaregion

ok but here's the issue

this was an august thirteenth two thousand and twelve

so how long was this after gaddafi was overthrown and how can we trust the reliability of this source

when it was so when was gaddafi actually overthrown let's look itt up

gaddhafi

over throw

this is in twenty twelve ok

the first libyan civil war started in twenty eleven

february to october ended in october okay

so this is barely a year after the war against the liberyan government was started

i would i want to see a more recent poll

i want to see a more reasonable and i also want to see one year is not enough to measure the effects

of the intervention

it's not

ten years is

and now we're ten years out and i'd like to see a more recent pull

it's your standard of living

improved since gaddafi was overthrown

did you live better under gaddafi or did you live better do you live better now because every libyan i know or have ever heard of

will admit that life under gaddhafi was a lot easier and a lot better than it is now

now

um and this was march to april so i thought this was august this was march to april a majority and let me tell you something my friend

this was a majority of libyans surveyed

who was surveyed what were the methods of surveying them did they survey the al qaida

militants did they survey the the rebel forces who did they survey

who did they survey i don't think you should be calling libyans al qaeda insurgents

i'm not calling them hold on i'm not calling libyan's al qaeda insurgentss your problem with the

with this s pole is that it was fy institution that works with the u s government

like so you think they were liighting me i did not even get to that

even if it was a completely reliable and neutral pole which i have no reason to believe

this was a poll conducted in march and april of two thousand and twelve

which is barely a few months wait so so you don't think it's realup

i don't think it's reliable no i don't think that i don't trust the methodology of the u s i don't trust the methodology behind this poll a much more neutral poll

you know

if i gave you a chinese source that's confirming

the interests of the chinese government you would have no reason to believe it you're giving me a poll made by the americans that says america good

well i would like a more non biased poll because h clearly there's more than two parties

at hand more than two perspectives and i would like to see another pull

ah this is very sauce it's very shady

m

o the u s the u s can exonerate itself of any wrongdoing it has the credibility to do so whereas china is

credibility according to hom according to whom does it have that credibility

if you read the declassified document

and if you have done the requisite reading basically you'd probably figure that out but obvious figure what out

that the u s government can be trusted

by whom especially the cia trusted by whom

the general public

and why should anyone why should other countries believe or care about that

who is

who has a

judge this conclusion

the chinese government believes that it's reliable and chinese people are going to argue the chinese government's reliable

now if you're asking if there's instances in which the united states has lied or covered up things from the public

you can find just among as much of those as the chinese government not really yes you can

so

do you think bush alide for example

about what he did lie about i she lied and

into iraq

light his way in there misleading whatever

yeah you know

um what

what was the life

that iraq had wmds

so he said iraq had w m d s but they didn't

they didn't know

and when did he say this

i don't remember exactly he said this before they invaded it

did he say w m d that's a

that's

some a thousand to they had nukes or

oh the state of the union

two thousand and two he said they had w m d s

well that wasn't a lie at the time

it was a wlive

noe because a statement was supported by the intelligence you don't judge it in hindsight you judge it from

what what info he had on him at the time

ok well you're saying the intelligence had reliable info i'm saying they lied

you don't have enough proof

no there's a difference between lying and being wrong what proof do you have all that what proof do you have that the intelligence

genuinely believe this why couldn't they just fabricate

to the public

the lie that they believe this

how do you know this is what they bll send you the proof

you'll send me the proof

i hope it don't come from this i don't come from the intelligence itself because they can lie and fabricate

yeah but you have to prove they light in the fabric i don't the burden of proof lies upon you to convince me

and to persuade me that i should trust this

because as we can see they went to iraq and they didn't find the w m d s so clearly something's fishy

now the burden of proof shifts upon you to explain yourself why they didn't find the wd because saddam superior nice cope technique nice cope

beautiful colt

you have no proof not to cope at all you have no clue what you don't have proof

ok ok let me ask

the brits knew their own m y i six wmd report was alive

actually the british were wrong because it wasn't within the scope of the united states and the u k and the

to investigate saddam's united um

listen after the review the commission found no indication that the intelligence community distorted the evidence regarding iraqs but

this this this this places a burden upon me to trust the commission and its findings why should i do that

why wouldn't you let's get to that first and secondly i just want to why wouldn't i trust the united states government to tell the truth about itself for the united states job

prove if iraq had w m d s it was his job as

the wording makes it clear and the n s c r resolutions

for iraq

prove that he did not have and was disarmed a said he had them

he said he had them because and that was not true there was reason and that was not true

so it's reasonable for me to infer that that's a lie you're coping and saying oh he just he thought it was true but well i don't buy i don't buy it

i don't no one else buys it either

i mean i don't know if you've been ignoring everything i was saying but

did you hearre what i said about his denial and deception

techniques

who is the nion deception technique saddams

yes he made it appear as if he was acquiring nukes in order to deter how do you know that

an invasion how do you know that because the cia told you

correct and yes ok so i don't so so you trust the word of the cia and i don't

because the cia's words as you' just admitted often don't actually correspond to the reality

you don't trust the cia

of course i don't

why not

i don't trust the cia because they have an interest to not tell the truth about

what they're doing

ok so m

how do you

are you familiar with family joels

the cia

when they released all sorts of documents detailing a legal covert operations such as andml

domestic yeah they did so and obviously ok ok but how does that

make how is that better for your case you just prove that they lied and did a bunch of fucked up short

yes they did but and then they declassified it

t hold on this was pre

this was preacher medi committee that actually set out to expose these abuses

and they send many safeguards and restrictions

prevent this from ever happening again

and you can clearly

o

well how we what they've actually shown the public is that they're able to lie and deceive the public about a great deal many things how do i know why shouldn't i quell the paranoid suspicion

that they're still doing

a these type of things and they have only given off the deceptive illusion and appearance that they no longer are

they they've proved they're able to do something like this

so why should i believe they're no longer doing cacuse they said so

proruve they can be trusted the and stated and that's not a sufficient proof of trust in my eyes i sufficient proof of trust

would be that the organization becomes entirely transparent which is impossible for an intelligence organization and to do you are correct to look at the screenshot i sent your result of church committee and other investigations that expose

terminations of illegal collection activities

number two ex

executive order requiring the establishment of procedures relating to u s person information let me tell you there's a saying there's a saying right there's a saying a gok

hagel has a sak

the owl of minerva only takes dusk after flight

this bullshit this bullshit shut up this bullshit you're sending me

only takes flight after it's too late

after the fact that the cia that this no longer is incriminating or damaging to the cia

that this no longer would get in the way of the cia's activities what you're telling me you're basically giving me

the cia's excrement

but it's already having a new meal and you're giving me its old excrement this is just its old excrement

you're saying oll this guy will never eat a sandwich again

why should i believe that

because you gave me because the cia showd me they took a shit

well that's how do i know they're not still they're eating a sandwich now

just ause i saw their old shit none if anything

they've established a precedent

that they will do things like this in the future and i have no reason not to believe that

well again you're just ignoring the nuances of this issue which you clearly don't understand because i'm ignoring the nuances of the issue and you are seriously here are i'm ignoring the nuances of the issue and you're here seriously trying to argue

that the cia should be trusted

and its word should be taken as complete fact out of blind trust even though we can't verify it

well and by the way you so far from the original topic of discussion which was first does the u s government act on behalf of the american people and then were the actions in iraq on behalf of the american people you failed then you said what's on behalf the iraqi people you failed on that point what's on behalf of the libyan people you failed on that point and now we've gone so far that we have to talk about

whether bush lied and whether the government lies before ok bush did lie about wm s no it was a lie

you see

you keep pigoting what's in a lie you're right they were

no it was a lie it was a lie it was you collected so many els

i send way do you work out and do you work out i work out

um no

but then how do you carry so many els on your back

because my place is an outside it's here on discord in my ergonomic chair defending american foreign policy from a neo conservative perspective

ok anyway some

you also believe that

the cia that there's no oversight a medal and everything very intrusive short sighted and counterproductive right

counterproductive toward what ends for what for whom for what ends

for the american people of course ok

i don't think the

cia nor the us government acts on behalf of the interests of the american people

they don't even say that's what oh they don't even say that's what their job is the cia's job officially speaking is not to defend the interests

of the american people that is it is to protect the interests of the american state

and and what is in the interests of the american state the american people

second no no it's not you don't live in a people's republic so no it's not

actually it is literally not

do you know when

established their interrogation program that was known as the torture program shortly after nine eleven

well that was actually to save american lives by

friendly interrogations against al qaeda detainees and the cia actually did

gain and inflo that was helpful in

thrauding military so you're telling me the united states created a problem

al qaeda

no islamic fundamentalm we're talking about and then did something was to clean up its own mess

and you're telling me i'm supposed to be impressed by that

i'm telling you you are wrong the united states was not aligned with saudi arabia and pakistan in the war

in afghanistan

actually that's wrong if saddam didn't invade it

kuwait in the first place the wouldn't be a problem so

go by that logic i'm not talking about saddam i'm talking about america's first of all i'm not talking about saddam we can get to saddam

before early mes you're trying to avoid the topic of america's culpability in the emergence of al qaeda

yeah that is not true they do not create al qaeda

the didn't directly create al qaeda butate they helped create theyg helped create the can

they helped create the conditions out of which al qada was able to emerge one of the decisive conditions being the war

in afghanistan

the soviet afghan war correct and soviet afghan so that implies it was

the soviets invaded first you know that right

what do you mean

the so the u s s aar invaded afghanistan first which resulted in the u on behalf of the afghan p d p a government which invited them in yes

no that is incorrect no it's not incorrect the afghan government that is be the afghan government

are the ones who invited the soviets for assistance because the afghan government was having a holot

they didn't invite them to invade the invited them for assistance sure but i'm not a full on invasion so you're just wrong there secondly no they know why did them for a full on invasion because as i was trying to explain before you cut me off

the afghan government was having trouble holding down the countryside who were resisting its efforts to implement land reform

so they needed soviet assistance military assistance

to put down the mujahidin

at no point did the afghan government tell the soviets to leave

and the soviets refused the request

noe

nope well these are facts you can say nope all you want but these are facts

and those are not facts

they are facts

they are facts indeed

they are facts indeed who funded bin laden

we crated al qaeda right and he's like the

um

he made it right

i don't know

saudi arabia

saudi arabia like the government of casey

i'm not sure if it was directly the government but it was elements within saudi arabia

yeah private donors religious and political ns they are connected to the government but it's not so goverment

dd al qaeda

because it's the it's the circumstances of the u s is alignment with saudi arabia and pakistan in the soviet afghan war and the u s is efforts to bolster islamic fundamentalism as a counterweight

to soviet communism

that ultimately created the conditions out of which

osama bin laden and al qaeda were able to emerge

no i think what you should have said is that you don't care about afghan women rights

who do you think represented who do you think was a better representative of the rights of women in afghanistan the mujahiden

or the afghan government

definitely not the corrupt government why not

and why not teleb

why not

they were extremely corrupt

they may have been corrupt we're not going to discuss whether the afghan government was corrupt or not we're going to discuss

who represented a better future for afghan women who wanted to educate afghan women

the freedom fighters

for sure

oh really

the ones fighting the soviet imperialist

ah and they were they were champions of women's rights according to you

they wanted a fight for them

in what way in what way you are

in what way

just general rights i guess the rights to do what to be

enslaved at the home rights to be married off at a

eleven years old rights to be

how did the taliban emerge if not

the unification of the factions during that fought during the

the war and the elimination of rival factions admittedly yes but ultimately not was

a

how do you think the taliban emerged

the taliban were former moujahds

the telebanamer

i

good they'ir former mujihidin fighters

and what

they would they would not have been able to prevail

if not for the fact that they represented the majority of the muja deens character

not after the war no

yes they did

why how are they able to prevail then why did the move why did the taliban prevail if the uj dean were secular feminists

why did the taliban ultimately prevail over the secular feminists of the mujihidin according to you

nh i'm not sure i'm not really familiar with

um

afghanistan geopolitics

following the war

my friend stanis i think you need to fuck melessandre and create a shadow baby because you really need some help right now

mean you're really not

doing this i mean you're not you're not doing well by yourself here

you're not doing well clames bush light i think you may

you may need that he he did lie he did lie

no he was wrong he did not lie

already explained that he did not lie because the cia created a cover story for the reason why the government lied to the public

yeah that is not true it was not a cia commission it was actually um a senate commission

ok listen let's listen

it's a different branch of the same government

it different branch of the same deep state

the government controlled by the same deep state firs of all the deep state is

is a yth and ifit

did exist it would be for the better

stanis stanis i want you i want you to refer to the

look

there is no universe in which you can get away with arguing that there is no deep state when confronted with the facts

i mean it's a benevolent deep state

ok well you admit there's a deep state then

not a malicious one

ok i don't care if you think it's good or bad

i want you to admit there's a deep state

what you do

i cannot confirm nor deny

ok so we can move back on to us because he totally pivoted because you knew you'd get bt what did i pivot about how corect

even though he was clearly wrong as

explicitly stated in both reports

un reports

the cia reports

and

just basic

so well i didn't pivot we're just back in this merry go round of you claiming bush didn't lie

because bush's allies said he didn't lie

well no why should i believe bush's allies are a reliable source

for ok you're not getting to the heart of the problem he didn't lie he was wrong do you dispute this yes or no

we can confirm without any doubt he was wrong yes

we cannot confirm we cannot definitively prove

that he lied

but i think it's more probable to infer that he indeed died lie

well that's just not the case when you have multiple

congress andvestg and congress

so congressional investigations and cia reports and you know that are not are not persuasive enough to me

and because ilin congressional but he know here's the problem

gress the congressional the institution of congress

the members of congress the majority of them

m a cia

at the same interests that bush did to lie about w md's in iraq

because they also pushed for the war

the same

reports that i am referring to literally be rate him in there so it's not like they're sticking up for him or anything ok they can be rate him all they want but they were in favor of invading iraq your pint right they were in favor of invading iraq

you just admitted

that the invasion of what you be disgusting things thatt stantis you just admitted

using pentagon buzzwords which really mean for example you talk about

global stability and security and strategic interest you mean the petro dollar system yes

it was in the interests

it was in the interests waing that i req

ok well we can both agree

that the american government

had an interest in invading iraq

above and beyond the existence of w m d's

correct that was correct ok that's all we need that's all i need from you correct

if we can say that we can say

therefore if congress and the cia and george w bush

have a reason to want to invade iracq

beyond the existence of wmd's

that also gives them an incentive

or an ability

or some kind of interest

in lying about w m d's in iraq to scare the american population into being in favor of the war

yeah that is a genuine concern as i said and um it's just

what the the but the people you have cited

that

de bunk the possibility of bush having lied

shared bush's same interest in lying about it

so how can i consider them reliable

well you're operating off the assumption that they

were actually lyining in the first place so you'd have to justify that

i'm not saying i do not have any definitive airtight proof

that they had the intention of actually lying i'm just saying

i can infer that they lied

and i can and i i can infer that they lie because i have no reason to believe

that

their justification and explanation for the discrepancy between what bush said and what the reality was was based on a mere

lack of knowledge or misinformation

well your inferences

clearly wrong no it's not wrong because the people who are explaining away the discrepancy are the same ones who had an interest in lying about it

no the congress found no evidence

to support that he lied and so congress ok but congress also had an interest in lying about it too

oh so you disagree with congress therefore you disagree with the interests of the united states therefore you are anti israel therefore you are anti zionists therefore you're anti semitic

oka stannis

ah

congress you're not well wait wait we failed to establish that congress acts on behalf

or the american government whatsoever

acts on behalf of the american people's interests

we've already failed to establish that in the beginning

h i don't care if they do

ok that's fine then then let's leave the american people out of it we've already established that they only serve

the american government not the american people themselves

i don't see anything what

anything wrong with that

you want to know ok now let's talk about stanis now that i beat you in this debate let's talk about stantus that yes i did ok once in a chat if i beat m in a debate so we can move on

you were clearly wrong about bush line

i mean no no don't you de with me our stances on whether bush lide are crystal clear it's not very far from clear it's very far from clear that i was wrong

but i want to move on to stand is the person

no i wan the debate

unless you think there's unless you think there's on on

there's something i haven't addressed that you've yet

yes you have ignorre the operative context of the

in iraq

you think that they were there to find w m ds when

they were there to see i didn't say i don't think they were there to find w m d s i think they lied about w m d s to whip up fear among the american population to support an otherwise unpopular war

that is just irreconcilable with

the reality we have now prove it

ok did you see i already sent you the commission report

listen sanis we can keep talking about the commission report but you haven't addressed my rebuttal i've rebuted your

argument in regards to the commission report

well i've responded to it you haven't responded to my response beyond saying that you find it wrong you haven't persuaded me as to why it's wrong i've made an argument you haven't addressed

ok i don't think the commission report is relevant right now actually we can talk about the u n reports

so you think bush slide right

yes

ok and i think bush was wrong

and i think he's wrong

because and you think he's wrong to right

yes of course

he was wrong on the intil

why was that

why was that the case

what do you mean why

he had no intention of being how i don't think he had an intention of being right i think he lied to the public

and where's your evidence for that

i don't have definitive evidence but i infer that he lied

because i think it's more probable that he lied

and again your inference is just and i can't actually be wan to reports co here's the issue stanis stnis stans stans stanis stanis

let's sey your friend

well let me give you a hypothetical

let's say you're in your room with your friend

and they steal your hundred dollar bill

okay

okay i'll i'll address this go ahead

and then you confront them you say why did you steal my hundred out you found out you found out

said why did you steal my hundred dollar bill

actually this is this is not this is a good example i've an even better one

i have an even better one okay here here it is right

let's see

you're going on a date

with a girl named helga

that would never happen but ok

alga

is six hundred pounds

helgar

is um

s she has acne all over her face already f and and she and and and and she's the color green just like shrek

and she's an ogre

all right you sate hold on hold on hold on

but

she catfishes you

and she sends you a photo of

she sends you a photo of

jessica albo the photo right

and you think that's who you're meeting up

and i don't knowo for the sake of the wait wait and you meet up you meet up jenny from black pink

you made up right

so you go and meet up with her

and then she says and then you say why did you catfish me and she goes

no no i uh

i thought i was taking a selfie but it turned out

i accidentally sent a saved photo in my photo album

and i didn't actually know that this is the photo i put

so it was an honest mistake that i made on my phone

now

you i you can't prove she's lying you actually have no definitive proof she's lying

but it's all too convenient

that

she did something that

would that gave her an outcome she otherwise wouldn't have gotten that you went and meet met up with her

so you see my line of reasoning now

yeah and you can't prove it you can't prove it but that doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to infer it

i can prove how your reasoning is bullshit soad of all

the role of the uus

was not to go searching around iraq

of california

for w md

it was iraq

m

they had

true

they had disarmed a wait wait wait wait land nation security on a lill don it's fine

that the u s doesn't feel it has an obligation to prove iraq has w m bs that's fine

but you know what gives george bush the right to tell the public that they have w m d s

if they don't know

b your own reasoning this comment was supported by the findings of the u n and intelligence readily available but you just said that it wasn't

it wasn't the responsibility of the united states to find out whether there were w m d s but bush made a defensitive

positive statement that they did have them

yes and i was getting to that before you interrupted me in december

in december two thousand and two bush declared we do not know whether or not iraq has a nuclear weapon

this is not what the national intelligence estimates said

as tenant would later testify

we said that saddam did not have a nuclear weapon and probably would have been unable to make one until two thousand and seven to two thousand and nine that's what the intelligence said

bush did know whether or not iraq had a nuclear weapon

and lied and said he didn't know

to hipe the threat

ok what was that in two thousand and two he said we do not know whether iraq has a nuclear weapon even though the national intelligence estimate

confirmed to him that iraq did not have a nuclear weapon and couldn't have one

until two thousand and seven to two thousand and

and one of the reports say it

which report

cia report that

it was before it was before bush declared this in two thousand and twelve

ok what what year was this

give me the year brutal give me the year

what

ah hold on before you give me the year we have more evidence coming in

in october two thousand and two bush said that saddam had a massive stockpile of biological weapons

but as cia director george tennett noted in early two thousand and four

the cia had informed policymakers

it had no specific information on the types of quantities

types or quantities of weapons agent

or stockpiles of baghdad's disposal

the massive stockpile was literally just made up

okay i know where this comes from this comes from the box article and it is

totally incorrect as he was

as bush was referring to un inspectors uun it is not cia intelligence

so you're saying that the uun knew things that you're saying the u n knew things

that the cia didn't

oh i'm saying notice how the u n inspectors and cia are wholly different of course they are but the cia at the time that bush told the public that iraq had massive stockpiles of these weapons

had already confirmed that it had no information about any such weapons

we it wasn't this three twenty two o two downing street memo hold on

us scrambling to establish a link between iraq and al qaeda is so far frankly unconvincing

we are still left with the problem of bringing public opinion to accept the imminence of the threat from iraq

regime change does not stack up it sounds like a grudge between bush and saddam

yeah that is

yust

not true again i mean as terrorism are you denying the veracity of this memo being from the british intelligence

i'm not familiar with

british

pulit

um domestic

politic decision so i cannot answer that

you're referring to the

the chilot report right

no i don't know

go on to say what you were saying though

why i interrupted you

i honestly forgot about the u n inspectors and the cia

the i already told you how could the cia not know things that you inspect un inspectors did

because it ignores the role of

the cia the it's a profoundly incompetent organization if the u n has intelligence that the cia why couldn't the cia just look at the intelligence the u n was able to garner

i mean this wasn't telligence this was

facts

from the iraqi government that suggested they haven't they had a massive

biological weapons stockpile unaccounted for

who said that who said that

i can give you a soor hold on

because i have a soce

saying that the cia had no knowledge whatsoever of

the types or quantities of weapons

let the

iraqi government had

correct and it wasn't there

choice

to it wasn't on

and wasn't there why did bush then say

that

iraq has massive stockpiles of biological weapons

unaccounted for and that was

true by you wan reports hold on that's not the direct quote

y it's that is a massive stockpile of bush said hussein had a massive stockpile of biological weapons he didn't say

they might have a massive stockpile of biological weapons

what you mean unaccounted for it doesn't make any sense

john

he was supposed to show that they were disarmed as

what

i leank to the full coquote you can see it here

ok you consider that the evidence was insufficient to support iraq statement on the quantity of afterax destroyed

and where or

when it was destroyed

and then statement on the quantity of anthrax destroyed

and where or when it was

un s com considered that the evidence was insufficient to support

ok but ok we're dealing with different things my friend we're dealing with different things

the u n said there was insufficient evidence

to support what is what amounts to a denial a negative

the iraqi government

says

a certain quantity of this

was destroyed

the un is saying we don't have evidence to confirm that positively

that does not give you the right to then say iraq has massive stockpiles of biological weapons because that's a positive claim

you have to prove positively

shee the dis read the subsequent

um sentence kid

a uun has credible information that the total quantity of b w agent in bombs warheads in bulke at the time of the gulf war

was seven thousand liters more than declared by iraq

with respect to stockpiles of bulk agent stated

ok is that what you wanted me to read

yes with respect to stockpiles of bulk agents stated to have been destroyed there is evidence to suggest that these were not destroyed as declared by iraq

what evidence

their evidence n evidence

evidence the cia didn't have

correct

so so the un has evidence the cia doesn't have

whereas the cia just relied on intelligence

this so the cia

doesn't have information the un has

yes because they used inferior means such as some signals intelligence and what but why couldn't the cia

take into account the uns information

the cia' is an intelligence organization if it couldn't do that

it has to be the most god damn incompetent fuckin organization intelligence organization on planet earth

it it can't even it can't even be relayed the information that's from the

again there's a distinction between the two with the n and cia they're not alike at all because i know that the n in the cia are completely unrelated but for example if on t v which is a

more accessible form of information

it's saying for example that it's gonna rain outside

the cia then is saved the burden of having to hire its own meteorologist the cia can then just look at what the t v saying and go off of that because it now has access to that information

that's what i'm trying to tell you if the u n has this information at all as they wanted

to do their own assessments

they did not look at they did not rely on the n reports

so how are the un reports reliable then

because they had first hand inspectors on iraqi sites

so why wouldn't the cia consider that to be reliable information

because they wanted their own asptments

why couldn't they take into account those inspectors findings into their so called assessments

i don't know you can

emil george

about well you're just really stretching and make not really making a case either the cia is a profoundly incompetent intelligence organization or

fur

someone's lying here

when you mention that bush said that iraq had a lot of

weapons unaccounted for and then the cia later so they didn't you're not making the argument that bush like you're making the argument that

the cia is competent their intelligence suck whatever

but neither i nor you believe that the cia is that incompetent that is a that is beyond what can be inferred from a reasonable perspective

no one could possibly be fel

they care about human ok they're very competent that has nothing to do with competence

but

we know that they're competent

so we know that if the un knows something the cia knows it too

so for bussts

you're not attacking the claim that did not lie you're just saying that did lie if fundamentally lied he did lie because he made he made claims about iraq when he did not have any information to back up those claims the thing that the that you linked me and i don't even know what you're linking me where this is coming from just assuming it's correct

or comes from u n dot org o k

what you're lenting me

in no way

justifies the positive claims bush made on record

that iraq had massive stockpiles of biological weapons

it clearly does it was supported by after the fact

the post hoalc investigation such as i s g report the cias one report

and the fact what are you talking about bush lied about there being stockpiles of biological weapons because he didn't fucking know he didn't know something but he said it was true anyway

it was true he was relying on the n data which was true however the thata doesn't support that claim

hold on that's what i'm trying to tell you that the u n data doesn't give us

doesn't tell us that iraq has massive stockpiles of biological weapons it just says that the evidence was inefficient to support iraq statements on the quantity of anthrax destroyed

again read the subsequent sentence with respect to stockpiles of bulk agents stated to have been destroyed there is evidence to suggest that they were not destroyed as declared by iraq

u n m o v has credible information that the total quantity of b w agent in bombs warheads in bulk at the time of the gulf war was seven thousand liters more than declared by iraq

ok

that was during the gulf war that was not

there during the time

also george tennant said they had no specific information the cia told bush

the seait listen

your not understanding the point you said that they had seven thousand liters more than declared by iraq during at the time of the gulf war

bush didn't say he thinks that iraq probably has

stockpiles of biological weapons he said that they do have stockpiles

of biological weapons and this is coroborated by the un no it's not because the un report at best the un report at best

could lead you to the claim that they might

not that they do

there's no evidence that they do

they have no proof that they e

and this

it's also important to know that the cia did not say iraq did it

didn't have a

and even then if the cia doesn't trust the uun's findings why would why should bush trust them

that is just wrong this is cera didn't trust

bushes fine so why did the cia tell bush and policy makers

that they had no fucking idea

the types were quantities of weapons that iraq had

the cia told him that he had no they had no idea they did not say that he did not

they had no idea

they said they were clueless they said saddam

they didn't say that saddam did not have but they didn't know it's that simple it

it's that simple they didn't know

they didn't know

yeah because um

it

i don't know i don't

think you're getting this

i don't think you're getting it well i don't think you're getting it if the cia doesn't know it

how could bush know it

in because the uun said so but the u n isn't good enough for the cia so why is it good enough for bush and the u n doesn't even support what bush said the uun report like i said you're ignoring the point

at best could lead you to the conclusion that they might

but bush said that they did

see the difference

no the evidence

clearly shows that there was a massive

stockpile on account there is nothing in the source you have linked me that shows that there was airtight

provable evidence that iraq had

at the current time of the report stockpiles of evidence

this is cia dot gov

this is from two thousand and four

i s g cannot determine the fate of iraq's stocks of bulk

b w agents remaining after desert storm

and subsequent unilateral destruction so these were bulk b w agents

that intelligence sources believed iraq had at the time of the gulf war

i s gh can't determine the fate of those

because no one knew where to be fucking found

so what's more believable that irak told the truth that it destroyed them

or

that saddam used sufi magic from sorcerers to make them disappear into thin air and he put them in a magic bottle that you have to rub three times to get out

saddam's deceptive in whatever practices absolutely ridiculous

again i'm you just proved to me that they you just proved to me that the u n report wasn't even reliable that it was probable that they couldn't confirm iraq's statements well clearly iraq's statements are confirmable because nobody fucking found those bulk b w agents

again we're not operating off of info that we've gained after the war we're operating on info during

so but the cia didn't consider that really the cia and for good reason didn't consider that un report reliable

if they did if they did they would have taken that report into account if the inocent report if the cia trusted the un report

they would have taken it into consideration in their own youearwords assessments

and would have towild bush and would have towld policymakers that arack

does indeed have biological weapons but that's not what the cia said the cia said they have no information at all but bush

instead of er listening to the cia told the public that iraq has massive stockpiles of biological weapons and moreover bush lied to the public and said that iraq had no nuclear weapons that iraq may have nuclear weapons but wait a minute this cia

definitively sd bush evidence

that the cia is saddam in iraq

did not have nuclear weapons and would not be capable of having nuclear weapons until two thousand and seven or two thousand and eight

again so yes bush lied he lied

did not the cia yes he lied

as they were doing their own investigations it was a matter of

the cia they didn't care for the un investigations why didn't they care for the un investigations you haven't responded to that why did they not care for the uun investigations because they were doing their own and why why would why was the uun investigations not there not sufficient proof

and they were doing their own i listen the cia does not live in an information bubble

if something can be proved by the un it's also proved to the cia

something isn't just true

not true at all then according to the cia the un is not sufficiently reliable why did bush trust

then what's true

the truth what else explains why the cia won't ok then why will the cia not just trust the findings of the un

because it's smart complicated thin the un reports the un report support the following statement

dick cheney kicked off the push in august two thousand and two by saying

there is no doubt

that saddam now has weapons of mass destruction

there is no doubt he is amassing them

to use against our friends against our allies and against us

there is multiple lies in the statement

there is multiple there is no doubt there is no doubt he has no grounds to say there is no doubt but moreover he then said there is no doubt he is amassing them there is no cia or u n report that suggests he was amassing them at most

it's that the iraq

could have not destroyed stockpiles it already had

during the gulf war there was no evidence at all he was amassing anything

them to use again then they said

he's amassing them to use against our friends

against our allies and against us

three lies there's no evidence he's going to use it against your friends there's no allies he's going to use anything against your ally allies and there is a hell of a zero amount of fucking evidence

absolutely no evidence that he was going to use them

against america

there're so many lines in that statement i don't know where to begin

all right and i

three responses to this because there is

quote unquote no doubt that you have any idea what you're talking about

so first of all sheney said no doubt that is not a definitive

determination of the status of his programs

yes it is he said there's no doubt

there was well right why couldn't there be a doubt you don't have all the information there's multiple possibilities or denying he does not have them

ok stanis you're just trolling at that point second

the bush administration

said that aluminy alminum tubes in iraq

had tried to import were only really suited for nuclear weapons programs even as sut up even as bush himself was being told

by the state department and energy department

that they were intended to be used as conventional rockets

why did he say that they were only really suited for a nuclear weapons program

because the

power and reliability of the seven intelligence agencies that concluded they were used for nuclear purposes outweighed

the two dissing opinions which mean state department and i think it was seven inselgent organizations told them that

yes you

which one

i'm not sure the other agencies believe that such as cia and this but the noo the cia had already confirmed

that they didn't have any evidence of any w w md s whatsoever

again with ho again

we are talking about aluminum bush declared in two thousand and three

that saddam recently sought significant quantities of uranium from africa

even though his administration had been repeatedly warned that this was dubious

and it turned out to originate with a crudely forged document

sounds like the mother so let me ask you a question

listen there what

stan is even if these were honest mistakes

all of these together hold on even if all of these together were just honest mistakes

the threat that they have in common was the narrative that iraq has w m ds and that iraq has to be invaded the intention remains consistent it's not like bush

is looking at this and he's going

oh lem me weigh and be nuanced about no

everything seems to confirm the fact that iraq must be invaded and as w m d's conveniently that intent that suggests

that either bush is filtering the information he's receiving in such a way

to support

the invasion of iraq

for

he's lying

it doesn't matter which one there both forms of lying

oh that's just not true but bush's interpretation was correct

no it wasn't correct as iraq did not have w m d's

they didn't have nuclear weapons and they weren't intending on using the tubes for nuclear weapons

those were

ull use tubes define dull use

what do you mean

there was no nuclear weapons program in iraq aluminum tubes he was seeking were dole use

defined i don't know what that means

so something that is two uses right

okam

what evidence what how cou but the claim was that they're only good for nuclear weapons

which is not true

well a technically that wasn't true and you're linking the shit whose significance i have no idea

why i should care about what you're linking me

ho

yeah

yeah so again the thing about the aluminum tubes they were just two dissenting opinions from two agencies well not even agency just the state department and department of energy

and the other agencies concluded so that iraq was seeking aluminum tubes so to the u k i think and it

and it was not based off a forgery that was another document

but that is irrelevant because bush did not rely on the forg the forgery is about saddam supposedly

seeking to acquire quantities of uranium from africa it's not about the aluminium aluminium toes

bush did not rely on that for

document what did you rely upon

the u k intelligence confirming so the u k intelligence derived its own information

from the forged document that's where the claim originated released later or be the document the claim originated with the crudely forged document

no it did not

ok you're saying it did not

and they knew at the time that the intelligence regarding those tubes was nowhere near as strong as they made it out to be

a number of intelligence agencies

believed that the tubes were in fact

made for your uranium enrichment

there were however a number of dissenting views including from the state department and intelligence army of the department of energy the ing responsible re maaining the united states's nuclear arsenal

so the agency

that is actually responsible for maintaining the u ss nuclear arsenal

you actually know what they're talking about

said that's not the only use for nuclear tubes

again the keyword is only use there were two uses and they just concluded that they bush said that they were only usedar had verbatim he said they were only really useful for nuclear weapons which was a lie

i think his comment was vet um i think the white house said his comment should have been vetted for okay well there's plan the is a lot of those miss that's only one of them though that's only one of the the fucking uh

little convenient mistakes bush made which all conveniently led to the same

convenient outcome

the u s k later in their own memos said there was no evidence to support

invasion

the downing street memo

ok our examination of the intelligence and other material on iraqi attempts to buy your uranium in africa we have concluded that

it is accepted by all parties that iraqi officials visited nigyer in nineteen ninety nine

the british government had intelligence from several different yes the dubious documents

the evidence was not conclusive that iraq had

already purchased

as opposed to having sought uranium and the british government did not claim this

the forged documents were not available ok here we go

the forged documents were not available to the british government at the time

its assessment was made so the fact of the forgery does not undermine it

nkes

okay

oky i concede on that point that the the ford's documents

because i'm actually an honest debater the forged documents were not

wait but

i still don't

know that because

the forured documents could have

been the reason for why the british government made its assessments because the british government could have goten it from a source that then got it from

the uh

froum people who looked at the forged documents who are relying on the forged document so i actually don't know i don't know enough

we what

i'm saying i don't know where the forged document figures into the british government's assessment

because even though it wasn't available to the british government it could have been available to the british government source

yeah that's completely theoretical ok the only it's completely theoretical

and

what were the other sources just out of curiosity

i'm not sure i'm ok then shut the fuck up you don't know either it's trly theoretical to you either you can make theoretical claims but i cannot ok nic double standard

well my theoretical claims that i don't know your theoretical claims are

positive you certain claims that you do know

i'm saying i don't know what your claim is that my claiming rely

diidding you

just say that you think the documents of forgeries were used by the source

know i'm saying it's possible but i don't know so i can't

i don't know where the the forgery i don't know where the forged documents figure into the british government's assessments what i'm saying

i don't know whether they were irrelevant

and i don't know whether there was a connection

and there clearly wasn't

no i don't know that

all i know is that the british government didn't rely on them directly

so if the british government didn't rely on the forgeries then they relied on another source

and that source may have relied on the forgeries

completely theoretical and y is it is theoretical but at the same time since it's a possibility

i cannot make claims about the relationship between the forged document and the british government's assessments

i don't know your claims ok if you move on to the i already said i concede on the point

that the british government did not

ah

a that its assessments

we're not directly based off of the forged documents because the as this source you're telling me which i'm trusting

a as an act of faith

that the forged documents were not available to the british government at this time i'm trusting that as a matter of faith stanis i'm being good faith to you

so

i'm telling you fine it doesn't make a difference though ultimately

the facts show

the course of our argumentation shows and has proven

bush

e

no the facts show that the defense intelligence agency and the cia's cooperative evaluation of the british assessment was correct in its findings

they lied

no they did not

yes they did

they made claims

that there was no proof of

they didn't know but they spoke to the public they didn't know but they spoke to the public as though they did

that's the difference there were many uncertainties regarding their programs and it can be then why did they make positive definitive claims to the public why did they lie to the public then

youre not make any definitive determinations yes may did to the public they did the public they did

they did to the public

cheney said no doubt so he clearly didn't

he said there is no

doubt

you know what no doubt means to the public it means we know for certain

that's what it means

now does it have to mean that in this purely techic maybe not but in that you know

commonsensical way yes that's it is what it means

no doubt doesn't only mean there's no positive evidence to persuade you to the contrary it means you are absolutely certain that's what no doubt means in the american lexicon

ok and there is no doubt

his remarks were consistent with un reports

that's not true though because

cheney said there was no doubt and the n reports didn't say that they were certain

but cheney didn't just go off on a the claims or the probabilities you might be able to infer from the u n reports cheney the liar

said that saddame

there was no doubt that he was amassing them

the one report had no such evidence that he was amassing them and intending on using them against america's friends its allies and america itself

there is absolutely nothing in that uun document that you can find to support those claims

again

his statement was supported by the intelligence because they can

k which intelligence are you referring to you said first you said he's referring on the uun s report now you're saying he's referring on other intelligence what intelligence was there from anyone that he was amassing w m ds

amassing yes

post hoc reports

after the war

x was a time traveller he made this claim in two thousand two stantist not after two thousandur

o no he didn't he wasn't a

doctor won he got in his telephone booth and traveleed to two thousand and four from two thousand two

it's funny how its claims are supported by post hoc reports right

no they're not there was no claim that saddam amassed weapons of mass destruction at the time that cheney claimed he did

not amassed amassing and there is evidence he was not amassing at the time cheney made the claims

ok consider this quote one minute

but even if it did turn out to be true he had no evidence

from y one

incorrect the evidence leads in the u n reports ands did not say a massve that they just claimed there's no evidence

that there's not enough evidence that he got rid of the ones he had during the gulf war

you' the fucking read that report against annis

the

the record is clear from one nine hundred ninety nine until he was disposed in april two thousand and three

saddam's conventional weapons and w m d related procurement programs steadily grew in scale variety and eficienas on what proof

based on post hoc proof so they had act make up after they already did the damage ok

what damage

after the already invaded the country

and got what they wanted they can now lie about whatever they want

no that is not true because the post hoc findings are corroborated

by the pre war findings

there are no findings to indicate saddam's

with w m ds

a related what does w m d related pure it's such vague language there is no evidence that saddam was amassing w m d s at the time that cheney said he was

no evidence at all

well that's just not true because the quote i there was a pos tc quote it wasn't a quote available to cheney at the time he made the claim the n also didn't make the claim and i didn't indicate that saddam was amassing them at the time either

we what was available to cheny was both un reports the u

south com i think please show me the u n report that said saddam was amassing weapons of mass destruction in two thousand and

ik i sent it to you

no you didn't because that report only tells us that he didn't eliminate the ones he already had

or that he might not have done it

no it clearly says they were unaccounted for

stan as you fucking moron

thusan

what as in fit he already had

nt thins he's amassing

amassing and preserving are different things

even if

even if this is true it wouldn't matter as

yes it doest matter beus it's a lie because the fucking right and then he said we have no doubt he's going to use them against us and our allies were was his evidence for that

the evidence is and both un reports intelligence s saddam was going to use bs against america which one stands which one

you' such an annoying fucking idiot

it's in the clusters are sailing are you being serious there's nothing in any uun report that suggests that

nothing

because you haven't read it

then send me a relevant quote that says saddam is going to use w m d s against america show me

that's not

but

that's what cheney said that he knew

without a doubt he knew with absolute certainty

no he did not say that he said there is no doubt saddam's going to use them against us

well i mean that that can be inferred right

saddam was a hostile actor and then you have to apply the same standard the same epistemic standard to his claims about there being w m d s being amassed and that saddam moreover is in possession of these w m d s

as a mere inference

he used the same epistemic

pe

were all the claims he said

he didn't say and then i furthermore we can infer it's a

you know we can assume

we can maybe find it likely he said without a doubt t without a doubt iraq has w m d s without a doubt iraq is amassing w m d s and without a doubt saddam plans on using em against us our allies and our friends throree wise there was no evidence for whatsever

no

that's not what a lot

it was a reasonable deduction

it was not a reasonable deduction it was at fucking liy because nothing in the u n report suggested that weapons were being amassed nothing in the u n report allows cheney to say and be certain of the fact that iraq even has w m d s and nothing in the u n reports say anything about saddam intending on using them against anyone

well i think you're the only you're actually the one that's lying here because the you want to report say otherwise that wrehere

w what does that knowo listen listen you fucking moron

the just because the un can't says it can't account for something doesn't mean it is saying depenitively and with absolute proof so that cheney can say there's no doubt

that iraq has them

but moreover you still have 't accounter for the two other lies about amassing them and using them against america and its allies

all that wasn't the issue if they were going to use them against america and it's allies the issue was just that they wanted them disarm

but cheney said he had no doubt

so he lied he did he had he said he was certain of this he's a liar

i think you're actually the liar here because the reports say otherwise

you keep saying the reports say otherwise but nowhere in those reports

do's the claim you're making stand up

all you just haven't read them yes i have read enough ag and stated i have been destroyed there's evidence to suggest that they were not destroyed as declared by iraq

there's evidence there's evidence that leads us to believe

they were not destroyed

ok

but that still is not

that is not absolute evidence that's just evidence that suggests they might have not been destroyed

i'm seen other pieces of evidence such among other ok but they're still not saying that they know iraq has them

well they're inferring

ok but dick cheney didn't make an inference he s made a claim on the basis of absolute certainty that there's no doubt

and his claims are suppo are supported by pope no potentially one of his claims potentially one of the three claims

only potentially one

of the three claims and even that one doesn't stand up

don't don't try to detract from his two other lies dennis

i think it's perfectly fair and reasonable to say that if saddam did have nukes or other w m d c would use them against america and its allies

how does he know

how does he know without doubt how does he know without any doubt how does he know that without any doubt

and how does he know that theyre being a mass

because it was supported by the findings of the

the u n findings have nothing to fucking do with the amassing fucking weapons you're fucking more on they have nothing to do with amassing anything you fucking idiot sut the fuck up about the fucking n the u n has nothing to do with the ry w saddam with amssing weapons of mass destruction shut the fuck up about it

so how do you interpret with respect to fking response was that the ad hoc investigation supports the claim from the future but theport has nothing to fucking with the claim that saddam was actively amassing weapons of mass destruction at the time dick cheney said he it was the case without any doubt

well again you're just lying again because the youan report clearly makes the case that there is no evidence to suggest that they were decl destroyed as declared by iraq stand stupdk on standus status listen to me the difference but not withtrowing your existing stockpiles andmassing them ch

made three claims the first claim youre arging could be supported by the n report now i would agree with you if not for the fact that cheney said there is no doubt there is no doubt but that's not what the report would allow someone to come to the conclusion of secondly that one of the three claims the second claim we're talking about is that saddam was amassing

these weapons report we find that saddam was amassing weapons of mass production rather the report claims

that there is no evidence to suggest that he destroyed the stockpiles that they knew he had during the grass rar ten years prior

do you understand the difference your brain bred fucking more on

ok stob deep throwing your mike like you'r nicky menag and i'll get to your claim

get to the claim

ok the n ok amassing w m d s was strictly against a resolution and restrictions on iraq by the

the un reported that iraq was

violating these restrictions so what does that mean

show me s show show the relevant evidence then you haven't brought that up i've been trying to

get to that point you never brought that up show it to us then

and un moble clusters document which clearly pain which one you or

the one ilink show me the relevant passage that suggests iraq is amassing weapons of mass destruction

ok i sent it

you didn't send anything

you didn't send anything stans send it to me

no my battle

i'm waiting

ok there we go

i'm i have that document open stanis show me the its is the hundred seventy six page

document

show me the relevant passage that suggests he's amassing them

i did

it's in

and the quote eileen

you didn't link any quode

us com

consider that the evidence was insufficient to support iraq statements on the quantity of anthrax destroyed

and where or when it was destroyed un movik has credible information that the total quantity of nothing to do with amassing weapons of mass destructions that's about whether iraq destroyed the ones that it already had

there's evidence to suggest that these were not destroyed as declared by iraq

little of the detail in these

declaration such as production quantitiesing he's tring he's just troling he's trolling at this point he's just trolling

he's this troy he's a punking n b c retard that has nothing to he's just trying to tll me he's trying to troll me callore he's trying to troll me he's just trying to troll me

he's honest with you's trying to srow me

he's littly sae guys the same thing

he's quoting the same paragraph that we already established is not relevant to claim two and claim three it might only be relevant to claim one not claim two and not claim three even if they did lie it would still be justified ok finally finally

finally we got you to concede that they lied finally even if i said ok but you know it is it's over fuckt

finally god damn it

they lied

and say it they lied yes you can see that you can see you can't take that back

you want to pivot now and move on to even if they lied o ky that's a different discussion

but we were arguing about status was rather the u s government ever lied and i just gave you an example that they lied you wanted to fucking b me you wanted to drag me into a the ask me oh you think bst ride do you think bush ride because i'm going to aready run is the bate i wether bust lied and i prove to you that they fucking lied prove how he was wrong sure but not that he lied he lied

no he was wrong he lied you agreed to

no he lied

again he was so now let's talk about stanis the person finally now we can talk about stanis

the person

well if you want to havei it sure

no i mean i already beat you in this debate so i'm going to talk about stans the person

yes i destroyed you i completely fulked you

ok stan is the person right

so stanis

you used to have a profile picture of american psycle right

ah yes that was me

okay

here's my psychoanalysis of you

i think that

you are a nihlist

and you are you are like a

you're like one of those people who would

you've realized a certain genius truth right

a lot of edgy psychopaths and sociopathic ah not sociopaths but people who like admire

the um

what's the guy's name bateman patrick bateman i want to patrick bateman patrick bateman they want to be nehlistic and edgy they usually will like identify with nazism and fascism

but you realized all it takes to be a true joker a true needleist a true psychopath

it is just to identify with the status quo

and you'll be just as psychopathic an edgy as if

you were a nazi or you were a

some kind of like edgy guy

you know

it's quite brilliant

no but that's a reasonable analysis i'm

because it's

i'm in favor of the truth

and i am a status quo enjoyer so

and what's wrong with the status quo like

what's wrong with what patrick bateman did

actually he didn't kill anyone he was just dreaming right

did you watch the movie

no but what's wrong with what he did had he not been dreaming

oh he did nothing wrong

yeah of course

there he go

but most peoples stanis most human beings will never agree with

well i will never agree with your view on life you'll never be successful in

prevailing

i mean coming from the guy that just twitchtrings

and circle jerks with a bunch of

weirdos youn't want to get you t o s there

s i'm my camp is prevailing in the world china' is overtaking america and china's the future and america is reduced to being the plaything

i'm talking about your fans buddy not

i know but but that's but that's of cose of course but what i'm trying to tell you is that marxism leninism is going to prevail in the world

the psychopathy is notll rightfully

put them down

well that's your cope that's what you believe and that's what you said i thought you already did stanis i thought you already did that

you the status i'm not even going identify you with the status quo because you're just some edgied cycle on discord you're not the status quo you're not invited to epstein's island you'll never be a part of the big club

you'll never be one of them you'll always be a pleb you'll always be a pleb stanis always be a pleb you'll never be part of the elites

but anyway

um

here's the thing stanis after the soviet union collapse in the eastern bloc was dissolved

you said you defeated marxism leninism what happened

well you guys aren't in power now so

we are

no

yes china's taking over

becoming the most powerful country on earth

yeah its a capitalistic nation right

ah is china capitalistic or communist to you

oh i'm not sure

you're not sure ok well then you should have no problem welcoming your new chinese overlords

because they share your values according to you

over lord you got the

so congratulations stanis i guess i guess stans you should change your background to a chinese flag not an american flag

and he should become a regular viewer and subscriber to infrared

and join the future marxism inism because clearly it aligns with your

values in your beliefs

yeah maybe if i get brain damaged i will but but it's chins a capitalistic country and that's good right that's good so

what's the problem

it's not communist like how people are saying

so it's all fine

so you were wrong

n know because i don't believe it's capitalistic but you do you just said alls rising

and now yeah you're saying it's capitalism

not what i'm saying you're calling it capitalism i'm calling it m l because that's what they call it but you're calling it capitalism right now

like five seconds ago i don't agree that i personally don't call it capitalism you just said it

when did i say therefore you are wrong

no i'm putting myself in your shoes stanis

ah maen

how does it feel so do you feel are your muscles weakened wen a fallen victim does your back and lies about the united states government do does your back urt from carrying these ls positions does your back hurt from carrying these as you know the exoskeleton and death stranding i think you need to buy that andvest in that so you can carry all the els you've gained just from tonight

i didn't take any else you did you took all the elder wlyining to me during you were absolutely destroyed

in this debate once in the chat was destroyed according to you to the chat if emperd was destroyed

thank you

okay

you see i'm seeing much more to

so we so ok so guys so let's see let's judge this debate you're saying you're seeing much more toos

just like

all of the things you debated in favor so all of your truth claims earlier in this debate are just as valid as your claim now that you're seeing the majority choose

everything i said here was correct

o k thank you thank you so much cause we can see plainly with our own eyes

that it's a majority of ones

all your eyes are obviously misinforming you

ok ok now we know you're a troll ok good

good

because i would couldn't actually believe someone believes this shitld do but i know you're just like a patron was i was exaggerating there sure but i actually love the u s government

no no no you know it's all it's all a lie you're just lying in the real complex

okay

good luck with that meller

military industrial complexes stanis stanis if we all thought like you did

none of us would be around

the i mean there are you know the world would be a much better place ok but here's but but don't you think at a certain point you have to accept that

no one's going to think like you did and the maybe there's a reason why that is

yeah because i'm wrong

ok you can go and live your life with that mentality but see where it's going to get you

r and you can live your life with a fantasy that the united states and there will

sure i am living my life

with that assessment of the basic facts and it's doing as wrong and it's not basic facts

well that's what you're saying but why should i care about what you're saying

because you're wrong

you saying i'm wrong

and why should i be persuaded by that

because i'm right

and why should i care that you sang youre right

because it clearly contradicts your world view your fantasy world view

but i don't care what you think

well you surely do because we've been talking for quye have to make an example of you you know like to dosstroy you in front of my chat i never been destroying your chat is

you've been destroyed you've been destroyed

no i think you deustroed yourself here not me no i clearly pretty clearly

completely shattered your world view

nope i am still a

quote unquote but looker boot licker

yeah but

it's really just like a patrick bateman type thing

i think he was more libertarian

it's like a patrick bateman tighting

post face let's see your face

why would i do that o than your chat doxs people already

no they don't

e chad doesn't doy what are you talking about

bost your face why scared of being stan is stanis why would you even be scared of being docs you haven't even said anything

that's like cancellble

like a

people at yee thingk just like you

well that's good i'll fit right in

yeah so just sow your face we want to see what you look like

at iicented in general if i'm docs i'll report you

ca stan thank you both boz you for the sub

stannis come on let's see your real face

i did

let's see the real one stnnis

you sure

you won't dox me

no i won't

tell your reditters to

i me

no what the fact

okay i just post on my face

okay san sorry i'm going to bring someone in because they want to talk to you

what's up dead ghost

oh is this a kid that i dumped on in c l

but dozen times at least

itop there

any

danis the man is

nill save dead goes

glori

how do you feel that this is

the time where you'll see the most famous thing

has been on the show before dude i don't know what you're talking about

yeah i've been on the show the most popular you will ever get in your life that's not true

yes that is so it's not true at all that and military inust content creator here

and it got over a thousand views

in less yeah and i and fred otss

dude he's he was he was here when we had like three hundred views when you talking tobout

the

anis though i want i'm actually i'm actually happy that stanis

wes

able to be let back into

the discord serverce stanis is

a dedicated

dedicated

terric

stanis are you a real person or are you an ai

i don't know

no way here's what i want to ask staus status how old are you

that is a question i cannot answer you have to answer you do you have to and you have to answer do we have an eighteen policy answer eightn up then

how old are you

i'm over eighteen then

what's the age

o i'm not going i'm over eat fox dude

he's under i'm not under

you're on underage s i just don't see how it's relevant i swear i don't want to

i sens i literally don't want to fuck and have to put you in purgatory

i'm not under age i just don't want to give out private information like

a selfie or my age

he s more hears

that's not

dude come on

it'sb your money

alright no solfhie a

how old are

i am over eighteen thus i am allowed to be in the server

now my god this isn't about trapping you in per

warrior cuk

just

dude come on

ok i am twenty six

really

twenty six

yea i think so

what's it

think

ok i mean

ah super sauce

you're sixteen to seventeen

sixteen to seventeen

broth

man supercat how does the sixteen to seventeen year old

spend his time like knowing all of the comebacks for every fighting

like the level i wish there were more fing all

all of the fucking

he spread he

un s war crimes he's seventeen years old he like he memorizes all of the sources that debunk popular narratives against

the u s government the same it's the same

need

he has like a dossier

oh

all the claims that basically all the claims that left

he just

that's

so stanis can ask you a question do you have a girlfriend

what do you think

no

and you ded go

i

i

i don't i don't well but if you do i maybe you have an online girlfriend no i can be online it can be on that's not real

un stop thank you so much for the five soal and base thank you so much for the five ok ok they couldn't hear you that's why ok go on

ok again my place isn'an outside like many people say go outside but my place is inside again it's in my ergonomic teir

defending american foreign policy and national security from any o conservative perspective

dude i wish i could put you in touch

my own

because he is like

currently girl call there that you guys are both like

like

the number one

like american patriots no on like stan is st i wonder why you have

stand is hold on

outstanding gentlemen

wait stannis uh

let me ask you a question

so instead of

instead of having a girlfriend

you you sit in your ergonomic chair

and you memorize

like uun reports in shit

yeah i just think

it's a waste of time finding a female because they'll just some cheat on me for like my best friend or

probably my brother so why do you think she'll cheat on he

on let's dr k why do you think you'r seat on you

you're optimist

about america

cynical about your own life true that is a weird

combination ma that is a very weird combination

you have such great

optimism when it comes to america but you're so cynical

and you lack confidence when it comes to human relationships

there are a lot of patriotic conservative women

that

oh

maybe i'll find one

why do you go to ok well i as you question

why do you harbor beliefs that contribute to your cynical unhappy world

and

because finding a woman is useless and you don't just find a woman for the sake of finding a woman but ho way w way if you don't have if you don't have a family you don't have kids

how are you going to pass on the torch to defend america's

foreign policy

well maybe somewhere down the road i'll have little neoconservative

uh baby stanis junior so

so do you believe in love

yeah

i just don't think love is for me i think

why

i don't know i'd rather be defending the u s government

that's my purpose in life

there that that shares that same value and you guys would be a

yeah just find me my stantis counter my stantis female counterpart in

thatd be cool

so

so um

you think you're

so uh

what kind of purpose in life

doesn't allow you to like

pass on your torch you know

i just think it's a waste of time i it's more productive and better being a servant to the united states government and

defending it online

from aan no conservative perspective

um sure but

and this makes you more happy than

like finding true love would

yeah then finding true love or um what's your

talking of the girls you know

are you sure have you tried it

again you just don't talk to girls for the sake of talking to girl have you tried it else have you tried it

yes it was disastrous

tell me what hap tell us what happened

so it was about a week ago i met this girl and you know it's it's a huge serverce most popular politics server

yeah politics i got banned a few days ago and i was was justifying m k ultra and then

she reported me and ild ban

and what does

and oka have you ever

have you ever kissed a girl before

like on the t v or

no like in real life

n no

so how would you know what you're missing out on if you've never experienced anything

because the

on the benefits of defending the united states government outweighs all the potential benefits of

love

how do you know how do you know

i just i just feel it

how do you know

because um defending this

neo con stuff is

better i guess

but how'd you've never experienced like how you how would you know

what you find makes you happy

i guess i don't know but i just like i just can feel it again

don't you feel that

you're not a very good representative

you don't you feel like you're hurting the cause

because most people actually do

i want to find someone and i think you're hurting the cause because you're basically telling everyone

you're basically like you bad role model like why would anyone want to be like you

i think i'm a great role model i would probably make like a good father and

a friend

but like no one wants to be like you in like a

ah

be like an inscell basically or a volscell you know

yeah i bowl selling the cock i get it but it's just a lifestyle

but no one wants to live like that so like how are you going to inspire people to

to not

what to obey how are you going to inspire people to obediently

accept the status quo

do you play golf

could pass sometimes re

oh you play golf

seat

like

that's something that george w bush did

play golf

a trump played golf

see they play golf

uh

that's

outdoor activiti

that was stantus let me ask you a question my place and iw ca you wello have a good question stantus

you are are you over age

eighteen

yeah

so do you love

george w bush

yeah ths like my role model i wish i can be like him one day

and

if he proposed to marry you

would you let him down

on ironically i would not decline

you would marry george w woods

yeah well that's assuming if he wants to marry a woman um someone like me

yes someone like you

i don't see i

why i would say no

i wouldn't turn him down because

what about joe biden

h probably not

he wants to pull out of afghanistan and

ok what about mike pompeo

yeah definitely and he was ex cia director so

oh

okay if george w bush

asked you

to be

like you know how in king kong when they brought that girl to skol island

and the

they like tied her up and

king uh king kong uh

it like basically be eaten by king kong

sacrificed

yeah if george bush

told you that he's going to

bring you on a boat

and like they're gonna do this to you like basically you'll be sacrificed

and it's for the greater good and they have to do this because

this is the only way that it like

that in fact america's fortunes are because

they do this

and they incur the favor of

some strange monster

would you do it

yes because they would be for the greater good and anything to further

the military industrial complex and the deep states interests i would definitely do

also dead goes dinosaur and chats as you sound pretty cute which i wholly agree with

all thanks so stanis i realize something what you said about dinosaurs was actually true dinosaur bones in the museums are actually rocks they're not actually bones

you were right about that

on ironically yeah it's not

biologically possible for dinosaurs

to exist

wait but that's the thing i don't

you lose me there but you were right about

them being rocks because they're fossils but

why do you think dinosaurs aren't real

um it's a marxist smith

that dinosaurs are real so by saying dinosaurs aren't really you're combating it therefore

you ar program to well latimir ladimir

leas and dinosaurs

yeah well he's just wrong

why ok why aren't dinosaur bones real

because they were made by scientists

to x

y

the public

by getting their money from museums

it's just but why why why does it have to do with marxism

uh because i think the guy that initially

discover them

was a marxist

discover the bones

i don't

so would i

i think dinosaur bones were discovered before marxs

was born

yeah

i don't believe in dinosaurs i believe in

i believe in law and order

why does the book

belief in dinosaurs contradict a belief in law and order

because like gm

if the were to be alleged that there were dinosaurs coming back then we'd lose

order and therefore no one is alleging that there

wait no one's alleging they're coming back they're just saying that

you know that these creatures existed in the in the past

well i've heard that but

doesn't matter now and

but anyways but why are they not realize you tried to convince me that they weren't real ones and i

i'm curious i some dinosaur boonts

texas

like not far from where i live

no

north of houston welly i'll talk

i'll dock

by

my o g location

north of houston ok i'll send a rendition squad there right now

oh i don't so then it's let me ask you a question stanis let me ask you a question

i think this is a

yeah let us get to one point for about the law and order

thing dinosaurs walked around naked which is illegal

and they just but when all animals do that

so we need law and order you can

are you mistake

it wait is that why is that why animals are in

the

they're in jail for being naked

yeah we need a

give them blue jeans and biker shirts

ok stanis let me ask you a question

what if i told you

this is crazy right this is i think this is a pill you can't

handle

i don't know if you can are you ready for it

can you handle the truth

i speak the truth

what if hypothetically

you were contacted by a federal agent

and they told you stantess

we really appreciate your intentions

but here's the truth stannis

the very frank

and blunt manner of expression

that you

have

in defending us

actually it hurts our image

you are actually subverting the legitimacy of the us government

i sw thoroughly

and

unquestionably

identifying with it

have you ever thought of that

actually on ironically i have thought about that in that

pretty fair but

seems a little unrealistic and i actually what stop and

i don't know what i'd do after i stop ill you should be you should be more like people like well the real way in which you defend the government's rule in america

is you be like people like vosh

and even destiny and he basically said oh yeah i do criticize the u s government but there's nothing we can do about it because

you know when when you when you just say you know unironically identify with everything

it makes you come off as very strange and bizarre to people and it makes the government look worse than it

there it is

i think it's just patriotism and nothing's wrong with that

i don't think it's just patriotism says i think of

i think the government would want you to stop because you're really hurting their

their image it's almost like you're mocking them you're like you're engaging in a high form of a

satire

well i'm not mocking them

so

well i mean it's functionally speaking it's like a warm of satire

yeah that's how i saw it

i didn't think you yah

it's what

it's not though like satire no may come off

yeah but it functions as a form of satire

and therefore harms

the american government

so should i stop

i think so

if i truly like the american government

yes i think so ya

i don't want you to stop i want you to keep why do you think i have you on

i don't want you to stop i love this

but what' i do now then

become a marxist no no no i think you should

no no you should become a voh

event you should be like a wash fan

i'd look like a parody in the neo conon circle if i did that

ah

i think the need the neo con circle is this very same circle that's harming

because of nelcons the neocons don't want you guys on discord

the evangelizing them

you know they

they just want you to know

identify with them at all the neo cons in power

you know

you're harming you're doing more harm than good for them

i don't i don't see that i'm literally defending them like i know but really by dif but by defending them you're making them look worse

how i'm little it's that

because because

because you're making it seem like

it comes off as very bizarre and it doesn't allow them to get away with the things they want to get away with because the majority of people will never agree with

directly

identifying with their views

but the majority of people will not be a threat

if you can just

you know

demoralize people en often

deceve them enough to being powerless to stop them which is what people like vosh do

it's funny how you mentioned bosh the tanky because he believes in dinosaur so

if

wash is a tanky now

yeah because the

believe in dinosaurs

that automatically makes

what what about es following the premise of the blogic what what about believing in dinosaurs

it has to do with

go ahead

it was a soviet myth

he believes in a soviet myth

therefore he is pro soviet therefore he is a tinkey

um

i'm not sure if that follows

i think it does

ah so he believed

in a something that soviets also believed in

yeah which intrinsically makes him

they solvit one of them at tinky

but soviets also believed in water

and i guess

he's still a tinky

so do you believe in water

now

so water does not exist in your view

well well it's another tanky myth

oh i see but it do'es not real

it's a myth

ok moving on

what's the circumference of the earth

i don't know it's flat so it probably take a the earth is flat i'm

mm ya you don't know

no i didn't know i didn't know

ah

earth is flat please explain more why is the earth flat

listen i'm i'm not a scientist i haven't researched this all my life but i just know that it's true because

it's just how physics work like gum

if it was a circle when it we be all like rolling or

okay um

y stantis do you play video games in your spare time

yeah i play some mine crap but i wanted to ask you you like china write youre dings ingsm i'm not sure what that is or how to pronounce it o know i''m

i

you like modern china

yes i do

ok so the they were complicit in nine eleven and turned a blind eye

they're familiar with that

how is that flip

ok do you know how china is twenty four hours ahead of america

or fifty they could have arn america they could airputter they could have witnessed

nine eleven before america

day

y

right dietn prevent it they were h

zi jing ping was probably laughing in his quarters

way all

ping was not the

was not the leader of

country at that time

yeah whatever but it was

who you

that doesn't reke you anything who ca tell

wanted moderate prosperity

e

cross

prosperity he didn't

so maybe maybe they were paying a

h maybe

you know they can't they can't watch everything

they weren't paying attention was not

okay so

i know i'm living in the pole so it's not powerful at all

and i'm time traveling with my phone

talk

sir

but

you cannot

i know people want to put so much blame on china for bad things

but

its not china's fault

you can't that you know well it is their ft when they didn't warn the american forces and the public of the incoming attacks

you have proof that they that they

that they were

let's see what's going on in new york city

yesterday

you're going to have to you're going to have to back this up i'm

i

under

i

i have

to believe it

oh you said the c p c was um nipodum right

i said they're not

was stans you you play minecraft correct

correct but how come the c p c can tell

how can they tell that i'm an inselident

if they're not on the oponent

how can they tell that you're an end ll

ye how do you know that they know that you're an insum

well they have the best

intelligence security right

why

okay

okay what about micha

pretty decent

yeah is that the only game you play

h yeah i play minecraft and

that's it

and you only play minecraft

yeah when i'm not playing my craft i'm probably debating on this order

reading cia documents

declassified

be classified the notsa

have you considered joining the cia

if not why

no i just want to live a simple life like in the woods with

this by myself or

the soul maate

a soul mate now we're getting somewhere

so what is your ideal woman

ah

probably same views

what about physically

h has

can't be like gum

can't be looking like sreck or

my so may is truth and justice if that's what you wanting to know

truth and justice

um

do you have an anime body pillar

uhhuh

i'm considering one honestly

so that's a yes

yeah like an anime body pillow with um a younger liz cheny

like in her twenties

that we so bas

you consider yourself a happy person

a happy person

yeah i'm absolutly defending the united states government

be ok when when you're not doing that are you happy

um

probably not

so

how do you cope with life

just defend the united states government and play mincraft

well the coba delta variant is going in the world seems so

what's not what's the covered delta variant

well

you're not familiar with the new indian kova treing

oh okay

ah and when is that coming

well it's already in the u s i think six percent of all cases i'm not sure i that might be fake news but it's coming regardless and i think it's going to end the world

ah

can vaccination stop it

i think getting

two doses is effective

against the

that varium but it's still more contagious andan infectious

and severra

so you think it's going to end the world so i

so standis i don't know if you know the good news but i passed law school the first year of law school i passed

yeat do'

do you have any medicines over here

have been talking about

same thing

on we chat because uh chinese people have freedom of speech

they say whatever they want

ven

it's no free speech in china it's a surveillance state

they spy on everyone i think someone leaked it in two thousand and thirteen

wait wait wait so stanis am i going to be going in class at this fall or will it still be on zoom

you probably won't be alive because the covid train will kill us all

it's okay it's not

i don't i don't think it's going to kill us all but

you di show me

you're not at least a little bit worried about it

i'm worried about it but i don't think it's going to it's not going to kill us all i mean i'm just for

it might prevent the it might prolong the covid crisis but

i don't think it's going to kill everyone

okay and uh

dead ghost if china has free speech then why can i dm

chinese cid

without being banned on we chat

because you're ugly stanis let me ask you a question

way

you you've been on wheechat

yeah and id m chinese kudies but i was banned

and if china doesn't censor anyone and it has free speech then how come that's the case

please justify that why why do you

people get banned on twitter

why are weakers getting banned on twitter

and they've never posted any on that ws the terms of serve

it very harect for harassment

then is let me as your question there's no harassment

no they don't interact that all they do is

post

uh

like

pictures of food

and like video from

h

whatever village they live in whatever

city therein

no no other post

they're posting the

things about their well being therefore they are harassing the chinese government therefore the chinese government

censored them

they're not harassing the chinese government

dennis i have an important question

well well i thinkrese government

courages

encourages

you know

this kind of thing

what they do discourage

what they do discourage

is a

actual harassment

qute on what heking okay

what about chan bay w

n i don't know who chan hoy qwa is

he's the most

based

chinese twitter poster like everyone knows

like everyone knows him on twitter and how are you not up with

stuff

dennis i have a veryportant i have a very important question

so

here's the question

have you ever considered debating a streamer besides me

why am i the only streamer you

why am i the only streamer one

why my the only streamer you ever decided to debate

i just can't find a treamer and

probably redundant and counterproductive

why don't you try debating boss

or destiny

where dpiney is

i don't think we disagree with much and bash is

we used would you debate on sol

wh

funtain clu

sign

soul

probably not

why not

why not

i just

don't see why i should be deep

debating right now especially

when the end

you came on the show today

all that's today i don't think i should make plans to debate in the future because the end is near with

adult varian like i've been stripped of my potential when do you think the adulta variant is going to end the world

i don't know but again i've been shripped of my potential i don't know like what it's going to be like to fall in love or climb up the corporate ladder have a family in

when do you think it's when is it going to end the world

probably by the end of this year

my christmas time speaking of christmas would you debate would you debate at a ce

yeah

base

by

ok how old are you

i' meeting

that's that i don't think an eighteen year old would make that joke this sounds like a twelve year old joke

that was i was just kidding like

would you debate t i'll just we both know he's not real

well deb ghost probably thinks he is but

you don't think santa claus is real

i think

i think about the easter bunny

the tooth fairy

george w bush's ghes

senior

uh so stanis let me ask you a question do you have any views about alchemy

in you called

oh what was it or like

which craft or what

ah

just the a cult

i don't believe in the paranormal

i'm not talking about the paranormal

oh dear cole

yh i cannot speak on that

what do you think about it

are you

are you uh

i've been trying to craft a korean girlfriend with maagic

what do you think about satanism

h

i don't really care of it

o can we say in

fine by me it doesn't affect yes are you a satanist

no

what's your religious views

i'm an atheist well i should probably

align with the religion soon because we're all going to die

i'm a s

which religion do you think you're going to align with

bush is and i follow george bush

hoh litt the evangelical

yeah the evangelicals they they they made f

to georgetown so wait stanis are you aware of pyramids in bosnia

of pyramids and i'm aware of pyramids like in egypt but not in bosni

if bostia even existed of course or really

you don't know that there's pyramids that the bosnians built

y if they can exist of course but

what's your point

it seems like you're just not enough informed about the world

a if you don't know about the bosnian pyramids

i don't know anything about those pyramids or

i don't know who bobsea is

i don't know what he did

h it's a country that has pyramids

what's your rebuttal

a do you recognize the authenticity of the bosnian pyramids

well i need to be shown a picture ofe i don't know anything about them

you want a picture

sure

alright

also are you religious

uh why

just wondering you asked me

uh no

are your name th morg

n what here i sent you picture

what you take on five g

five g um

i recommend everyone to

ok

okay we have the end it

it we're not allowed to time

we're not allowed to talk about it

oh good

we hat ended there

god

i god

s things twitch do does not like

anyone's talk about i don't know i don't know maybe they are fine with it

but

i don't want to risk it

this debate in a nutshot

watts i can't click on anything

project ferocious the fuck is this

it looks boring

looks boring

it looks boring

work ride challenges

there's no games that e three there were no good games that the three everything fu the suck

everything at ethery foroc

bleaz with the five

the place donated five dollars

more gold for pokey i mean the war chess

o you mean

okeimen

ok you mean

me

microsoft's press conference stuck

yeah

he really did fuck andcern

thank you blayse appreciate am

good

you guys think pokeyme notices me

what do you guys think

mister

mm

deni is the kind of dude who's st

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hundred percent fax

um

pli sd

mm

hokimin will join r tsg

why did you as this fucking formed a group called real time strategy game isn't that stupid

i think that's fuckin stupid if you ask me

that's dumb as hal

he has me when nobody asked

s

oalk up

nobody asked

ask your mom

that's what everyone said in the e three live chat

oh my god

you could d m destiny for another debate should i debate destiny right now what is he doing

okay um he's outside he's on vacation having a good time i'll be back tomorrow afternoon like twenty hours okay

oh remind stream ping pong later froml wants to get dominated an caption of ppinpinp captura appacino al pacinos a you do

wow

i haven't been on vacation in so long

the fucking drive back i hate it mel

vosh is not gonna debate me

he's too scared

oh yeah this

uh what is it called

what's that shi hassan was watching earlier

mic

peranormal sthing

he was watching some paranormal shit

but i forget

what it was

rment know it was pure and normal

hold on

no

he sty

is yh

g you minut jason from jubilie here at the jubie office just want to take a moment to say thank you to r nw ridge wallet for sponsoring thispisode

let's watch some jubilee

oh large institutional investors have

would you say you definitively won the debate against stanus on the iraq war

yes

they lost tens of millions of dollars the assumption that the reded crowd were idiots is incorrect

why do you think it this is

there's an enormous

sort of crowdsurced effort to identify forms of corruption in this case not really sticking it to the man it's ill informed discussions that are being had creating risk but this is not going to end well w it ends it will end very badly for the public they shouldn't be just willy nilly distributing that to the four corners of the w sow you at their barbershop told them soa you illion box off of game stop i think there's an assumption there that

we aren't as astute just because we don't have whatever quote unquote certification you want to give someone i'm so i look at it off people by on strem systems broadly especially systems like wall street thatat which is so bas is the video and ablesm but there's also some people that are doing very interesting deep high financial is it's youations so to kind of put everyone in one basket i feel it

is a little unfair on is it's us

no it isn't

he uses the f word does he use that word

it's not yourors

as if he uses the f slur

the f f slur

it's fifty it's fifty minutes

but what did he say about me what did he say specifically about me

like what did he say

no

a

what did he say

he said i was the most handsome man on twitch

wow

is

oh he's right

he says you don't use your platform to push for change or something along those lines

ok

anything else

ok

so he can use his platform

he can use his platform to do that

just watch it offstream we'm not going to watch it at all dude

ok

surrounding message is i love people

who come to you after you've done the work to like build something big and they're like this is how you need to be used

if i listened to you i would have never gotten here that's the difference

so much more important than the money that i could be putting in my pocket right now so i'm still holding diamond hands the keepk like on tie if you want toch y patience cousin

but' stop i'm shot i started my career at goldman soach before moving to an alts firm sa you has a going everyone i'm danny i worked in finance i'm also been an entrepreneur s you in years

my name is mike i am the c s o of a c p t sw you guys my name is from nk i'm a registered investment at a broker

hey guys my name is zach i'm in the medical device sales space thirty ay also host a podcast called d i hy wellth

my name's ben i'm the proud owner of several shared bs and i'm hoddling until the squeezes cquose

i have invested

and me

stop

come forward if you agree

i it might be a little obvious why we invested in the mean stive but i definitely want to hear why you did yeah i think

if you think about me in a different

we hit

the seven hour mare

should i keep going

i keep going

whre should i end it

different way right like i've invested and i have to pee

i have to peat

it when i goro peace should i leave it up or should i pause it because you guys want to see my reaction

but i do have to pee

pas

pause ok i'll pause it

okay a paused

g pause likere give pause

yeah

es

and

alright

i'm back beachyars

stocks that were like mems on my desk

yeah like i know this isn't going anywhere like this is kind of a joke i own some like random bd c companies that like i would consider like

this is like a joke i mean stock i think quite to this level sings do trade on social sentiment now

if you got a couple couple bucks that you're willing to go broke on and watch it drive all the way down to zero

why not you know throw throw throuwh the dice becaye

should i have a tv stream

should i just have a tv stream

w i just watch tv

hees

don to you

where'd the t v go

there we go

i'll caught my remot roape not it

right

nw this

a

are you guys

i'm jus going to watch some t v okay

going to watch some tv

you guys can say but i'm gona watch you be on couch

i'm just kidding i'm just kidding

very good

its on a couple of these you you on must says something and the launch i think that's like something that i have qualms with in the market as a like as a whole right now like if you're treating a little bit of your portfolio like that now even if you have the overall sentiment like market goes up like stocks go bur you have to still be able to have that mindset of like this theoretically like worst case scenario

could go to zero

you guys are so low attention span i literally need to get a fucking like dummy to sit on the chair when i go pee

so you guys could feel like you're talking to someone

as far as mean stops meing mean stocks go

i'm drawn to nailing naked short sellers that's my whole agenda here so the man i don't it's just insane to me that for four decades the f c c has failed to get control

of naked short selling as an illegal practice so the only mean stocks i'm interested in in buying are the short squeeze stock like game stop and c jenmys is like a spite and is gom stop right now it's a spite and absolutely

one of the things that the ben said that kind of pique my interest

is the idea that you're doing this to stick it to the man i love the sentiments i love what you want to accomplish but the thing that i kind of

would push back with is the fact that

the man is also winning i agree with you that there's going to be

big guy firms that profit off of the gamestop phenomenon but i suppose

as long as at least one naked short seller

you want toay here's the truth

the truth is that every juilieve that is not related to sex

is boring

sex cells that's the cynical truth

it has to be related to fucking

something sexual that's the only thing that makes jubily fun to watch

sex don't sell ml

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