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my bed

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because thought it be dead

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She said she don't want to say gunna no more

And she's about to start calling me him

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The prices is high

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I'm I'm I'm I'm and The Welcome to the stream, everyone.

I hope there's no buffering.

I hope there's no buffering. I hope there's no buffering.

And, um,

wow,

I need a haircut.

I,

uh,

gotten too long.

Hair's gotten way too long,

way too long.

But guys, uh, it's too long, way too long.

But guys,

it's late. It's late because you guys didn't do the thing I asked

you to, which is boosted to 1K.

So boost it to 1K

overnight. That's your mission.

You're not allowed to go to sleep. You have to spend all night boosting it.

Still boost it. But guys, I have another thing to tell you.

I have another thing to tell you.

I have an essay.

I want to really...

You know, it's not really an essay, actually.

I want to...

So people ask me, why don't I do articles?

Why don't I write articles?

Why don't I do short pieces, like an academic or whatever? and the reason is because no one reads because i'm

not going to reach an audience doing that no one reads nobody reads articles nobody reads substacks

even nobody reads unfortunately right nobody reads my substacks you, they're the size of short books. So nobody reads. So I started doing this thing. This is actually, this is related to the James Lindsay thing. I'm not going to really dwell on that too much. But I decided that on X in particular, when they have the longer tweet thing, this is an opportunity to actually get people reading for idiots.

So there's, yeah, I'm going to talk about the book in a second because it's related.

But basically, I don't do articles. I do

tweets, and it sounds

ridiculous, but it's like, what the fuck is the difference?

You know? A tweet is longer...

Sorry, a tweet can be

just as long as an article. For example, the one I'm

going to release tomorrow is about 2,500 words,

which is in the same territory as an actual article, right?

But in any case, I think you guys are really underestimating the

tweet things I

put out, the essays,

the ones that are long,

especially when I make a

picture for it,

a cover title,

picture or whatever.

You guys should take those,

compile them,

and like make a book out of it or some shit.

I don't know.

It was short, short little pamphlet, I guess, not a book.

But I have a lot of bangers.

I have a lot of bangers.

And I don't ever see you guys talking about them.

It's kind of a shame.

I want to tell you guys what what my um angle is with those posts because i actually feel like i'm pioneering a new genre of literature such a genius aren't i

anyway i'm just kidding but i do think it is kind of a new genre, and I want to talk about that.

The genre, I think, is a, it's a combination of it.

So there's always this input-output problem with Marxism.

It's like you have the theory, which, who gives a shit if anyone can understand

it? It's truth. It's truth itself, right? So you have the theory, and this is like Marx's

early writings. This is Marx before he writes capital, more or less. And then you have agitation,

which is a form of propaganda, right?

Which is you're writing this not so much

to just give expression purely to the truth

and that's it,

but to also communicate effectively a message to people.

So it's this agitation, education distinction.

Remember the three phrases of social democracy when it was revolutionary, used to be organization, education, and agitation, right?

Am I right about that? Maybe I got one of those wrong. But, yeah, theory and education and agitation are not the same thing, but you can

collapse them into the same thing.

And that's what I like to do with my tweets.

First of all, I condense them, and I know people have short attention spans, because this is how I am on Twitter.

Like, for example, Log is is a genius he's

literally a genius like straight up he's actually a genius um and if we ever come to power we're

building a giant statue of him but literally the only critique I have of logo, it's not even a critique. Every time I read

his long tweets, they're not broken up. So it's like one long wall of text. And I'm like dyslexic

or something. I don't know. Like, and I, it's hard for me to follow.

That,

but it's all,

but that's why it's painful to me because if you read it,

it's brilliant.

It's always brilliance,

you know?

It's just hard for me to read because of that.

But I should get better better i'm not saying logo

should change his style i'm just i'm saying like i'm obviously communicating to a different

more stupid audience than he is but in any case um in any case, I like to have only a sentence. I don't do paragraphs.

People have lost the attention span to read paragraphs.

But, you know, the brilliant thing about Twitter, and I feel like I've hacked into this a little bit, is that on Twitter, people have gotten used to scrolling and reading several sentences in succession, right?

So I could kind of exploit that and have people coming along and reading these long tweets, which actually do pretty successful on the algorithm.

Sometimes they don't, but a lot of times they actually do.

And, you know, I'll make sure that there's always breaks so that people, you know, they can just think about the sentence. And, you know, that's a style I like to sharpen more and more. And I've been working on it for a very long time. And actually, the person who introduced me to this was

Nick Land. Nick Land

he said something about

how long books are stupid.

And that has kind

of taught me to be short and snappy

when it comes to anything I share on the internet

in terms of writings.

I try to be.

For my substacks, I obviously take a lot of liberty.

But Twitter, because of the longer tweets, that it's allowed me to practice being short and snappy.

I actually think a lot of people underestimate the Marxism is not woke because it has such a stupid title that's meant for stupid people. People underestimate it, but it was actually at a really tremendous feat for me to condense so much in tweets. I made sure that each part of the thread

did not exceed the maximum limit for the for tweets, right? And that was a really painful exercise and discipline for me.

Like how do I condense something really complicated and really there's a lot of references, whatever, but just make it really simple, right?

So that's something I've been practicing for a long time.

I think I've been getting better at it because the posts are doing

better algorithmically. More people are reading them. And they seem to understand them. But I want

you guys to understand. Do not underestimate the amount that is being condensed. I know that they are very simplistic. And condensed I know that they are very

simplistic and they're they're condensed obviously they're extremely

simplistic like for a five-year-old but I make them simplistic because I

I want you know an average person who's mildly educated in politics to understand them.

But there's a lot behind it, you know, there's a lot of logic that goes into it. There's a lot of, um,

knowledge that goes into it, you know, and if you know, you can catch the references.

But anyway, the references are not direct, but like you can tell who I'm influenced by and who I

read and where I'm getting this from if you actually read carefully. But, you know, I want to talk about something else.

Now, as much as I like doing that on X, and I've been doing it over the course of a year,

as much as I like doing that on X, instead of writing articles, because I think articles are obsolete, in my personal opinion.

I could be very wrong about that, but I just get the feeling people don't read anymore.

I feel like X is the last thing people read now.

And beyond that, it's TikTok.

And that's where Eddie takes over, because I will never be

good at TikTok, right? Now, YouTube content, long-form video essays, this is something we used to do,

but it's just so much effort. It takes so much effort. Because it's almost like

it's like my tweets, but you have to put it into

a script. You have to record your voice.

You can't have too many cuts and you have

to have videos to edit. And it's just like

that would, you could, look,

I'm going to just tell you guys something.

My tweets are open source source if you ever wanted to

make video essays uh based on them do it and they'll probably be successful if you actually

understand them just credit me not just so you're not being a dick,

you know?

But here's the thing.

Now, as much as I'm saying this for X

and as much as I'm saying this, because

about writing and where's how's his major

writings, the upcoming

book

is going to be quite long. I think it's going to be at least 600 pages.

Could be wrong about that. But it's going to be quite long. And it's not going to be easy to read. And it's going to be quite dense. It's going to be quite long. And it's not going to be easy to read.

And it's going to be quite dense.

It's going to be quite dense.

Okay?

The portion that is new writings that I'm contributing to it is very dense.

It's not easy to read.

And it's like the opposite of my tweets.

So that is where you're going to get more

of the serious amyla with the 10 let's go that's where you're going to get the more serious kind of

just pure theory not agitational material. But I did something that I think was a good decision.

So, I don't know, don't quote me on this, I think 20 to 30 percent of the book are actually just transcribed stream lectures.

Don't quote me on that number, but I think it's 20 to 30%.

20 to 30% of the book are transcribed stream lectures that I did that are in between chapters and why did

I decide to do that? Well, actually, initially the book was just supposed to be transcriptions from

the like three, four hour long stream lectures I did in the past.

For Robbie, what's up, right?

And then, uh, Hassan, by the way, Hassan is the one, Hassan Ali, he's the one who's been helping with all of it.

He's the one who's putting it all together.

He's the editor.

And then, you know what?

Hassan just said, okay, now write the introduction.

And then it was supposed to be done, right?

And this was like a year ago, minimum.

This was like a year and a half ago.

So I wrote the introduction

and then the introduction

kept getting longer.

And it got really long.

And then it got really long.

And then I told him, I'm like, look, man,

I don't want to do an introduction anymore.

I actually want to just write the book.

Most of the book, I'm just going to write it.

And actually the stream lectures will be in the minority of it.

But the stream lectures are very rel-

Here's what the point of transcribing the stream lectures.

The stream lectures have humor in them.

They're much easier to understand.

And they're going to really contextualize the content of the book so that you're going to read a chapter that you don't understand.

Then the next chapter is going to be the stream

lecture, which you probably will understand. There's so much references to movies and TV shows

and all this kind of stuff in it. And it's very relatable. It's very digestible. And then I feel

like that's going to make you better understand the chapter you didn't understand when you go back and read it, right?

So this is how I'm helping you digest the book. It's really just to help. It's like I'm giving you food you cannot digest. So, you know, wash it down with the stream lectures transcribed.

Then, at the end of it, there's going to be a chapter that was a short mini book I did not finish from years ago, which isn't finished, but it's mainly finished, I guess.

So that's why it's going to be so long.

But it could be long.

It could be 800, 900 pages.

I don't know.

I have not worked on it in a while by a while i mean like three four months because i'm focused on the manifesto now the problem with the manifesto

is not the length it's that i'm having people give me a lot of sources because there's a lot of

fact stuff and history stuff that I have to get into in it, and I have to be very precise about all of that, right?

Will the book title be, you'll see.

I think you guys will be very excited when you see the cover.

It's super cool.

It's actually so cool

like you guys are going to understand the vibe i've been on once it's released you're

going to understand the vibe i've been on for a while super excited for it it's really all

i care about is getting this book out and And, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm definitely looking forward to it.

I'll give you a hint about, like, the vibe.

The vibe is not futurism for this book, although I am going to have a book that's about

the Mecca tanky stuff. There's going to have a book that's about the Mecca Tanky

stuff, there's going to be,

I'm getting way ahead of myself with all

these promises I'm making you.

Once this book is finished, I'm going to

embark on a Mecha

tanky book, which is going to be

about political economy technology and uh landian

acceleration and things like that and it's going to focus on things of that nature. I'm going to

go back to the Mecca tanky thing

and talk

about that.

It's going to be super cool.

But this one is going to

be the opposite of that. So this one

is very barbaric.

This is my barbaric book.

My ancient barbaric book, okay?

There's a Twitter user,

I'm gonna just fucking say this right now.

I don't have a problem with this guy,

but there's a Twitter user whose name is Bronze Age Communist. I just want to put this on record. You better clip this and make a record of it.

That's the vibe I've been on for like a year and a half.

All right? So I don't

want this guy. I don't know him. I don't think he'll do it.

But I'm just saying just in case.

I don't want my book to come out and this guy.

Oh, he took my whole thing.

No, that's the shit I was on.

I just want to be clear. I haven't read what No, that's the shit I was on, all right?

I just want to be clear.

I haven't read what he's saying.

I just saw the name Bronze Age Communists.

I was like, all right, well, I got to copyright that shit.

It's not the title at all, but I'm saying like the vibe you know and the focus literally so these are some updates i wanted to give you on the the theory i guess side of things but i'm very reluctant to write articles.

I'm very reluctant.

Why would I write an article when I can just do an interview?

You know, I could just talk.

Actually, that's what Michael Hudson does.

Michael Hudson doesn't even write anymore.

He just, he writes books, and then he gives interviews, and that's how he

communicates. And I, that's the vibe I'm on. Personally, that's just a personal preference thing.

No shame in writing articles and stuff. It's just, I can't do it. You know, I've lost the

patience. And why have I lost the patience?

Because people just take you out of context and they'll just try to, you know, they'll

try to put words in your mouth and make it appear that you're writing something you don't

mean to say and so on and yeah they'll do that

and live streams as well obviously but i i just consider consider the medium of text a little bit

more sacred that i and i care more about it.

So this is something I wanted to talk about.

And the post, I actually want you guys to read this, and I want you to understand this is not pure theory. This is not pure education. It's not pure agitation. It's a combination of all of these things. And when I'm writing these essays,

what's up taggies? When I'm writing these essays essays i would like you guys to understand that this is a vibe i'm trying to

communicate to you it's like a style and it's a talking point talking points and it's like a a rhetorical it's a talking point, talking points, and it's like a rhetorical, it's a rhetorical foundation I'm trying to communicate for you, so you can use it as well.

So my upcoming post is going to be, it's finished, it's totally finished by the way. I just have to release it

at the right time. And I spent all day today writing it. It's going to be about the history of socialism,

the word socialism versus communism. Because there was some idiot. Can't wait for the book.

Good job.

Insert smiley face. Jennifer, wow. Oh my God. Thank you so much. Wow, Jennifer. Oh, my God. Jennifer, thank you so much.

Thank you so, so much.

I am actually speechless.

Wow. Jennifer, if you guys don't know jennifer jennifer is literally probably the oldest gorilla there is Jennifer was it Jennifer has to be in the FBI, first of all, all right?

Because the, I think it was like the day or the second day that I clicked the live button on YouTube.

Jennifer was in the chat on day one when I had two viewers.

One of them was Jennifer.

All right.

She is actually the oldest member of our community.

I could be wrong about that, but I'm pretty confident she is the oldest member of our community.

Like literally the oldest.

I'm just kidding.

She's not an FBI agent.

But even if she was, it's okay.

I forgive her.

She's great.

If she's an FBI agent, all she's doing is monitoring us and i'm fine with

that because we're not doing anything wrong um no she's not an fbi i agent she's actually legit

but i'm just it's crazy though then you guys don't a lot of you guys don't know that

you know but jennifer thank you so much uh i'm so happy to see that you're still still with it

still an OG

you know

it makes me very proud

because you know

there's been just so many

ups and downs

there's been

since I hit that live button

just so many ups and downs

you know

and a lot of twists and a lot of turns and a lot of many ups and downs, you know?

And a lot of twists and a lot of turns and a lot of things, you know, a lot of people that liked me started hating me. A lot of people that hated me started liking me.

But, you know, Jennifer stayed the same. Stayed loyal, you know Jennifer stayed the same stayed loyal you know and um makes me super happy you know know but again thank you so much for that i really appreciate it um you know i'm not going to let

you guys down you guys have to understand the trouble the trouble i put myself in, you know, in my life, you know, women, this, why aren't you paying attention?

You guys are the ones I'm answerable to and loyal to, you know?

You have no idea how much, you know, you know? You have no idea how much, you know, I'm always fighting for you guys, no matter where I am. I could be on the other side of the world. I'm in Russia. I fight for you. And the Russians know that.

I'm not loyal.

I mean, they don't own me, you know.

I answer to my army, you know.

I answer to my army.

I don't answer to anyone else.

I'm loyal to you guys.

You know?

And if it wasn't for y'all, why would I be here?

Why would I be here? would i be here you know yeah the vash days why would i be here if it

wasn't for y'all you know that's really you guys need to understand i'm not doing this

every time i feel like oh should, should I quit or whatever?

I'm like, I'm not going to let my gorillas down over my fucking dead body, you know?

And, um, so that's how it is

you know that's how it is

and you guys need to understand something

this is something I'm also going to talk about a little

is like

so if you don't know

you may not care but whatever I'll just tell you anyway.

James Lindsay, he's a massive pussy. He's a huge pussy. But he, today he tweeted, like he quote tweeted my tweet from behind a block

my Marxism is not woke tweet

and he was like

this idiot

doesn't even know that communism is dead

his religion is obsolete

and I'm like

I'm like,

I'm like, your whole brand is like fear mongering about communism.

Your whole brand is saying that like America's about to turn communist,

and communists are like, it's a number one threat to the West,

and it's like, oh, the number one enemy is communism, communists are here.

It's like, but communism is also

obsolete. I mean, like, it's kind of

fucking retarded, right? But I see

why he blocked me, because he, you know, had I

replied with that, he probably would have felt embarrassed.

So I made a tweet about it.

And then, lo and behold, the guy replies to the tweet from behind a block calling me retarded.

So, and then he sends Phil Labonte or whatever, a guy who refi...

You know, I went to Tim Poole's studio.

Tim Poole was pretty cool. He was very respectful, accommodating. He was a generous host.

Um, you know, political differences aside. accommodating. He was a generous host.

You know, political differences aside, I have no personal beef with

Tim Poole. Tim Poole did not really

do anything

that I, to me, that I consider dishonorable.

He did join

in the debate kind of

on the side a little of Trevor

Loudon, but that's his right. It's his podcast.

I'm the guest there, right?

But even Tim Poole told me

after that, he's like, yo, Haas,

I don't know why Phil doesn't want

to debate you. Like, I don't know why he won't. Like, I don't get it. Like, I don't know why Phil doesn't want to debate you. Like, I don't know why he won't.

Like, I don't get it.

Like, I don't know why he didn't want to come.

They snake me with the clips.

Yeah, whatever, though.

I mean, when you think about it, You know,

it's their show. They can do whatever they want with it.

But,

yeah. So,

Phil responded to my tweet, though, and he's like, oh, James Lindsay wanted me to show you this because I can't see his reply because he blocked me.

So he's replying to me from behind a block so I can't respond.

So he sent Phil to show it to me or something. I guess that was easier for him to do than to just unblock me.

But then I'm like, okay, so you're sending another guy who's running from debating me? And then, you know, I kind of just, I kind of just like am sick of it in the sense of like i'm sick of not getting the proper recognition in terms of like how fucking crazy it is how feared i am everyone Everyone knows who I am.

Like they all know who I.

Don't think for a second people don't know me.

All right?

Putin probably fucking knows who I am.

That's probably an exaggeration, but it's like everyone knows who I am.

I promise you that much. Everyone, literally everyone in the space knows who I am.

I don't get a lot of viewers on my live streams. You know, I barely ever break 1K.

My YouTube is only 30,000 subscribers. My videos average, like, I don't know, 15, 20K views, I guess.

I don't know, 10 to 20.

So, like, and I guess on Twitter, I'm, you know, 100K followers, which is decent.

But it's like I'm not viral.

I'm not very viral compared to the amount of people who are scared of me, compared to the fear that I project, it's like way more than the reach i have and the recognition i have and that's what's a

little bit frustrating now i don't mind being feared i don't mind being feared as a matter of fact

i would rather be feared than loved any day. Okay. So I don't mind being

feared. What I do have a problem with is the disparity between how much I project fear in others, how much I strike fear and terror in their hearts, and the extent to which I'm

recognized for why that is, like, why are they so scared of me?

People should know why I'm so feared.

And that's what I don't like.

They don't give me the recognition I deserve in terms of why I strike fear in them.

And then I think about this a lot. And it's like, why wouldn't

they fucking fear me? I am exactly what I appear as, you know? I'm an actual communist who's coming,

I'm a fucking jihadi communist.

Who is very strong physically.

I think, you know, I, for someone who's natty, I guess, I mean, like, I bench 10 reps.

Incline, by the way.

This is incline.

So there's two 45s on each side, and then two tens on each side.

I don't want to do the math,

but I can,

I do that for 10 reps.

Um,

I feel like I'm very strong.

I mean, I don't feel I am very strong

compared to the average person, but that's not that important. But I mean, I don't feel I am very strong compared to the average person

but that's not that important

but I'm also like an actual

jihadi communist, right?

Which is a pretty scary

thing to be in America I guess

so it makes sense but I think that the real

kicker is that I actually

fucking believe in it.

Forget the knowledge I have. Forget

the intellect I have or whatever. It's that I

actually just fucking believe in this. And that

terrifies people.

Not

kilograms, right? What do you think? I'm fucking crazy. Definitely not kilograms right what do you think i'm fucking crazy definitely not kilograms um but yeah i think um

i am admittedly I'm not very tall

I'm 5-8

which nowadays is actually quite short

but you know

you know the have the internet very

the internet did a really good job of

communicating that to me i'll tell you that

they made it loud and clear that's really short

well it's not i know it's not... I know it's not really short,

but it is short.

Let's be real.

But I didn't know that

before the internet.

I thought...

I was like, oh, who cares, right?

Anyway,

um,

what was I gonna say?

But I, I do intimidate people I do strike terror in their hearts

they do fear me

and you know

but they're also trying to block me

from getting any exposure

and that's where I start getting pissed off it It's like if you're scared of me,

then your house belongs to me, your wife belongs to me, all your belongings belong to me,

your car belongs to me, and all of your followers belong to me. I mean, that's just how I see it personally.

If you're standing on anti-communism, but you're not willing to stand on business and

you're running away, trembling, and fear from me, I feel like I should own everything you

have because I'm your fucking dad now now I'm your father right and a lot of

people are fucking terrified of me but they're not you know they're not giving me what's owed

okay bitch you're trembling in fear and now give me your shit, because it's mine now.

You know?

And that's the problem I have.

That's the real problem I have.

All of the...

Andrew Wilson knows me. He debated me before. You know, and so he knows I'm an honorable person. I think that's why he agreed to it. But, and Joel Davis is another person i've debated three times right once recently and then twice in the past

but beyond people like this there is no right winger who will debate me they're all fucking

terrified of me and i'm sick of not i'm sick of that not being like i'm sick of how there's

no discourse about that.

Like, why is this high...

Why is this guy Haas so scary?

What is it about me that strikes so much fear in these people?

Now, when I'm talking about my physical strength, by the way, I'm joking.

I'm not in terms of that I have it.

I am very strong.

But this is clearly not the fucking reason, all right?

It has nothing to do with that.

It has everything to do with the fact that I represent a very scary position, you know?

And it's related to the essay I want to release tomorrow, which is that the whole new world order after the Cold War is a lie.

Everything we've been taught about world history is a lie.

Communism never actually died.

And if it's dead now, it was dead from the beginning.

A specter is haunting Europe.

Bitch.

And that's always been something that's been very scary even before the soviet union it's in the

communist manifesto right and i represent that i represent the fact that there is this other world

that is there that is very, but hasn't been given the proper recognition

that it deserves. And it got me thinking a lot, like an actual communist tankie who is like actually a communist i think people see that as an unknown

and it's very scary to them you know combined with me and my who i am it's very terrifying to them

yeah there's the derrida stuff you know the the spooky

deri da stuff you can sprinkle in there but uh you know it got me thinking also it's like

christian otherworldliness like when Jesus said my kingdom is not of this world right when the Bible talks about you know when it when it when it rebukes those who fixate too much on this world it should get you thinking about what that actually means because most people i think including myself up until a years ago or something probably would interpret that in terms of the

otherworldliness of like the noosphere like the mind the otherworldliness of the ethereality and

intangibility of thoughts the otherworldliness of plato's realm of forms and the

you know the greek philosophers and the the grecico-roman stoics you know but i don't think there's any reason to believe that was actually what the original christians

meant i think the original christians when they talked about when jesus said my kingdom is not

of this world and when the christians said is not of this world you know what i

think they were talking about because you you always contextualize it you know um this was a political

struggle we know that from history that the first christians it was a political struggle. We know that from history, that the first Christians, it was a political war.

It was literally a world historical situation of war and struggle and revolution.

They were revolutionaries, right?

So what did they mean, my kingdom is not of this world. Well, I'll simplify it for you. You want to know a politician whose kingdom is of this world? AOC. AOC is of this world. When she says we have to be realistic and go with the democrats and we have to vote and we

have to compromise that's of this world right that was the opportunist social democrats after world war one

you want to know who said my kingdom is not of this world? Lenin did, in a sense, right? Because he was insisting upon a completely different grounding, a completely different opening of the disclosure of a world. It wasn't this world.

It wasn't this established nexus of convention and possibility and prejudice

and all the assumptions and wisdoms that are, you know, that accompany it.

It was a, it was like a different, you know it it was a it was it was it was like a different you know it was a badusian

event if you will it's a it's a new opening of a world it's the creation or it's the disclosure of a

new world right the birth of a new world and right? The birth of a new world. And the world, it's not about communism as a different system. It's not about a different society necessarily. It's about a different horizon of symbolic meaning. And what do I mean by symbolic meaning, right? I mean it in the sense that, um, how do I simplify this for you without being too, like, dense theoretically?

I mean this in the sense that, you know, this world, quote-on-quote, is a um is a is is bound up with a specific um basis and foundation in a specific basis and foundation in a specific type of authority and a specific type of belief in the invincibility of this authority a belief in the invincibility of money, the worship of money, right?

And why is there a worship money? I mean, think about it. When Jesus said, a man cannot worship both money and God, right?

It gets you thinking, like, why is gold or money so powerful?

And it's like, it's not because there's any intrinsic property of gold that makes it

such. It's because of a specific

it's because it represents a specific social relation or you know um series or totality of

social relations right and that is a world that that is a world. That itself is a world, right? So when Jesus says,

my kingdom is not of this world, why should it necessarily be assumed that this is an ethereal,

kind of supernatural dimension he's talking about i have a suspicion that what he's actually talking about is a different um symbolic, you know, a different horizon and disclosure of universal existence itself, which of course, is a world. He said it is not of this world right it's not of this world well

it's still a world though he would have said it is not it is not of any world right it's of some kind of purely supernatural

intangible ethereal reality and well no it's of it's clearly of some kind of world, just not this one.

And I think with the Stoics and the Greco-Roman philosophers, the assumption, you know, E.J., what's up, man?

The assumption kind of began to...

began to...

...take hold that this is something that is...

...no different than how most leftists think of communism.

It's so radically and fundamentally inconceivable

and incomparable to anything that could ever possibly be real here or now

that you should just associate it with the very intangibility of the mind and of

ideas themselves. Ideas are pure. Thoughts are pure. Fantasies are pure. Desires can be pure. That's purity.

But anything in the real world, anything that's real reality, that's, you know, that's this world. So somewhere along the line, the distinction between, you know, the kingdom of God and this world became a distinction between reality itself and some kind of super reality, some kind of unreality, you know, which is, and what is this unreality when, when, um, you get down to it, right?

The unreality is the idolatry. Okay. It's an idol of the mind. It's a pagan idol of philosophy. You may not know this, but Plato was a pagan. The philosophers

were pagans. They worshipped idols of thought. Thought, so thought is a specific type of human activity.

When you produce a thought and you start worshipping that thought as the absolute horizon of universal reality and existence and whatever, you're turning it into an idol in a way that is no different than if you were to use your hands to create a statue and worship the statue.

It's literally the same exact thing. There's no difference.

So that is idol worship that was smuggled into christianity in my opinion now i don't want to

offend people's religious beliefs but that's my opinion that's how i it. And I'm not the most knowledgeable person about theology in it.

I could be wrong.

I'm just, you know, I'm just giving you what I think so far. My view could be subjected to change, you know. And now people say,

is this why you're a Muslim? And I don't want to communicate falsely the idea that I think Islam is somehow less corrupted in terms of how it exists or who represents the religion than Christianity. It's absolutely not my view. And this is one of the reasons I under-emphasize

my Muslim background is not because I'm scared of, it's not because I'm trying to not scare white

people and I'm not, I'm afraid of scaring Christians okay it's actually because I will invoke

the wrath of who of Muslims Islam is a religion of

what is it now?

1.4, 1.5,

1.9. What's the number of Muslims around

the world? 1.9 billion,

right?

Okay. I mean,

it's a very lucrative business, though.

There are a lot of people who've made it a very lucrative business,

who make a lot, a lot of money selling indulgences on Islam.

And they have a very, very strict understanding of what that religion is,

which is, you know, very much backed by

millions of dollars even, you know, and they have a lot of prestige and authority that they

get from this, and they control so many fucking people.

So if I-Haz started interpreting Islam in a new way or a different way,

then these guys who are making so much fucking money from it,

and it's not just Sunnis at Shias too.

They're going to fucking come after me. They're going gonna call me a heretic and they'll come after me just like how christians went after rousseau rousseau jean jac jacques jacques rousseau you know

he was the same he had he just he told the protestants and the catholics hey you guys are

fighting over nothing.

It's kind of stupid.

Let's go back to the original Jesus.

That's what Rousseau said.

And they all came after him.

So Calvinist, what was it, Denmark?

Or was it the Netherlands?

I don't remember.

He went to a, was it Belgium?

I don't remember.

He got persecuted by the Calvinist and the Catholics persecuted him.

And that's how the Muslims would treat me.

You know, the Muslims.

That's how I like to call them.

And so I don't want to deal with it.

I don't want to deal with it.

But I'd be making some very powerful enemies if I, if I started talking about Islam, the way I'm a, you guys don't know this but I'm a very strong believer like I very

believe I very much believe in it you know but I just don't talk about it in public because

like I'll be making a lot of fucking enemies if I do that. And it's like I have

everyone is attacking

me at once all the time. I have

the Nazis. I have

the ortho-larpers.

You know?

I have the red

libs. I have the Democratic socialist. I have the red libs.

I have the Democratic House List. I have the fake leftists.

I have the actual Democrats.

I have the Republican conservatives.

It's just like every faction that's not us is currently at war with me.

So it's like Mountain Blade and I'd be like, I'd be opening a new front and going to war with like

the Dawa people in the UK or whatever. Sublime, what's up?

And I just don't feel like doing that because it's a waste of my fucking time.

That's why atheism is the safest position to publicly communicate.

It's like, fuck you.

I'm not answerable or accountable to any man.

I'm accountable to God.

So go fuck yourself, you bitch.

You know?

But, uh... But, you know, the whole thing of being a Muslim communist doesn't, nobody likes me because of that, I guess.

But I don't want to compromise it because it's what I believe, you know, and it's, um, but it, it does me no favors, put it that way. So anyone who calls me a

grifter, it's like, okay, you're kind of stupid, though, when you think about it. How am I grifting? What do I

fucking gain from this ridiculous quagmire I find myself in? You know? But, you know the the the the article i'm i'm gassing it up it's only like 2,500 words.

In fact, we can read it tonight.

But the article is very much about how communism's always been this boogeyman, not of this world.

Minister, what's up?

You know, very much

not of this world

in the sense that, I mean, think, you know,

as a communist, when Christ says my kingdom is not of this world i just find that so

relatable because our kingdom is not of this fucking world it's not the world of cnn it's not

the world of the media it's not the world of people's stupid conventions and assumptions and opinions it's not the world of the media. It's not the world of people's stupid conventions and assumptions and opinions.

It's not the world of the fucking think tanks and institutions that gatekeep all the knowledge

society has. It's false knowledge, obviously. It's not the world of the history books. It's not the

world of the prevailing narratives. It's not the world of the politicians. It's not the world of the history books. It's not the world of the prevailing narratives.

It's not the world of the politicians.

It's not the world of the civil society.

It's a different world.

It's literally a different world.

And it's real.

And it's the actual real world, and this world is a fake one, you know?

It's a fake one. I think one of the critiques of communism you'll find from religious people is this is what they'll say.

They'll say, you're trying to just bring heaven on earth.

So you're just trying to um you're trying to instead of the hereafter

instead of having the patience of the hereafter you're trying to bring it on earth coastal warden

what's up,

brother?

Appreciate you.

You're trying

to just

make that

on earth

and

it's

materialist

because you

want the

sensuous

tangible thing immediately.

You want immediate access to it to consume and do something with it.

And they're like, this is why you're a materialist and you're a Satanist because you're

trying to make heaven on earth which is but

this is the world you know this is the devil rules the real world right this is the devil's kingdom

so but you're trying to you know mimic falsely heaven and bring that on the promise of heaven on earth itself, when actually it belongs in the hereafter.

You should just be patient and not focused too excessively on this world. You should just keep your mind always focused on the intangible and ethereal, you know, the purity of the hereafter or whatever.

And here's my problem with that. It's that, let me throw something in the wrench how do you explain china then china where sometimes

you might find someone who'll say yeah we're going to have communism in 500 years we're going to

have it long after any of us live to see it.

I mean, how do you even explain Deng Xiaoping?

Deng Xiaoping knew he wasn't going to see the communist kingdom, and he still was fighting for it.

And he knew he wasn't going to have any immediate relief. communist kingdom and he still was fighting for it and he

knew he

wasn't going

to have

any immediate

relief or

reprieve

so this

association

of communist

materialism

with this

crude

immediate

you know

greed or worldly materialism that's just so immediate, it doesn't explain the patience and wisdom of communists who are fighting for something that they will never experience, ever.

They will never personally experience it.

There are many communists who took bullets for the cause.

They're never going to see the...

They're not going to see anything.

So, like, how do you explain that?

This is, by the way, you know who I'm critiquing now is the Pope?

And sorry if that's...

Is that not allowed?

I think it is allowed, right?

You can critique something he says.

That has nothing to do with the infallibility thing.

Because this isn't an argument the Pope made.

He said,

Communism is just the kingdom of heaven on earth,

and that's why it's a folly.

And I think this is a wrong uh i don't think this explains communism at all i don't think this is a correct, correct understanding.

Because, look, you, you, you have to understand, even if communism says it will be this world or a world,

um, all that is doing is, is having faith.

It's having a greater amount of faith, I think, in the spiritual and in the heavenly and in the divine.

And why is that?

Because by understanding matter itself as something that's fully subsumed and subordinate to the logic of the divine,

you're actually it's it what it actually is is a profound profound faith that that that that is that is testament to it's a it's testament to a profound profound degree of faith if i dwell in the idle

conceit of my thoughts and say there's a heavenly hereafter and God's justice will just be,

that is just the stillness and purity of a thought.

And you can content yourself with that conceit to a point where there doesn't need to be faith.

You know, one of the arguments the Ortho Larpers love making is like, oh, math proves God because it's intangible and God's intangible.

So that means it's God.

Or some stupid nonsense, platonic nonsense

for second graders,

right?

But

that conceit of the divine

or of the spiritual, I think it's just so easy to have without faith.

You're certain of it. Just like I'm certain, one plus one is two. I'm absolutely certain of God. I'm absolutely certain. You know, it's a matter of analytical truth that, yeah, we're going to go to heaven. It's just this intangible kingdom of pure thought. Well, where's faith, though? Where's faith? Is it just that you're tapped into this specific influencer gay liar j dayer

is that the faith that you're subscribing to him and you're tapping into this

memetic you know pattern of communication and that's that that's not faith that's if that generously

that's devotion it's not faith though faith is something very different you need to understand

what i'm saying when they say faith they're not talking about faith they're talking about devotion and by like they're talking about your willingness to spread this and communicate this um thought and your willingness to confessionally say that you believe it, you're tapped into it,

and, you know, it's like how one leftists argue like, oh, do you support Stalin or do you support

Trotsky? And they're both dead. But what they're really asking you is like, what are you

buying into? What are you tap? What are you like subscribing to in terms of like your, you what you

believe, right? But that's not faith. That's not faith. That's a Netflix subscription of the mind. It's not faith,'s not faith that's a netflix subscription of the mind it's not faith though

you're yeah you're subscribing to a memetic pattern of thought and you're you're devoting yourself to

that but that is not faith that is something different than faith you know faith has to involve risk faith has to involve risk you know faith faith has to involve a lack of an ability to preempt the outcome faith is like hagar in the desert aimlessly searching for water there's no water in the desert and faith

there's going to be water that springs up and that's her faith in god that she had and it did so the

story goes it's an islamic story but i'm sure there's many christian stories

that are similar that's faith you understand so when you think about it faith is inherently

materialist if faith was idealist, there's no faith. It's just certainty. You have a mind, you have thoughts, you have logic. Okay, where's the faith, though? Faith is materialist. Because at issue in faith is something that will be born of the material, something that will prove itself through the material.

That is what is at issue in faith.

What is that issue in faith is a material outcome, not an ideal outcome.

An ideal outcome involves no risk.

In Islam, God is merciful.

Why is God the God of mercy?

Because when you think about it,

the whole weight of the stars and the heavenly bodies hanging over us we are ants we are

literal specks of dust and in an in an instant we could be crushed like we're nothing you cannot have certainty that you will live you cannot have certainty of humanity's existence

you can't be certain about that think about it any day a meteor can come and hit us and just

wipe us out. That's it. And the extent to which life was possible, how something like humanity emerges from this, this chaos.

I'm not being superstitious here.

I know, yeah, there's all sorts of theories of speciation and there's Darwin and whatever, but it's like, it's still speaks to a profound you know a delicateness

that was necessary

for this to happen

you know

um

and that is merciful

you know that is mercy

mercy is when

you could you could very well be otherwise crushed

you could very well otherwise be totally destroyed but by the beneficence of some presence or some will, right?

You're shown mercy.

You know, there's a recurring theme in Islam I always found fascinating,

which is the believer who makes a deal with God, and the believer is not holding up their end of the bargain.

And yet God is still merciful to them and even expects them to not hold their end of the bargain.

And it's like, that's mercy.

Mercy is when I have a contract with you.

When I tell you, it's literally debt.

It's all about that, by the way.

It's literally, not metaphorically, literally about debt. It's all about that, by the way. It's literally,

not metaphorically, literally

about debt.

You say, hey, you know, my crops

failed, I need a loan,

and I'll pay you back.

You know, but

just can I have a loan? And give you the loan so you can start your farm up and then

eventually pay me back right Florence Nightingale what's up so listen to this though by the terms of our contract and our agreement guess what i am in the right

to demand from you that loan.

You owe it to me.

You literally owe it to me, and I'm within the right.

But you know what?

It's like one of the greatest deeds you could fulfill in Islam as far as well now it's like show mercy yeah it is within your right that's true it's also within the right of the heavenly bodies and the whole cosmos and the whole animal kingdom to crush you like a bug

and by the beneficence of some mercy you are allowed to live and exist so by that same, you should forgive that person who can't pay you back if they truly can't. Forgive them. We know you're in the right. But it's mercy that has a greater metaphysical and moral import than the conceit, you know, of whatever contractual form of association you engage with with your fellow man, that's just an assumption of a certainty you cannot have that that's

always valid and that's always legitimate we try to our best ability for it to be such.

But mercy is not just...

Mercy is not just charity.

It's not philanthropy.

You know, in Islam at least.

Mercy is...

It's...

It's a... How should I put it put it has an ontological significance it's a fundamental

truth you know position of truth for the whole of universal existence that you are recognizing by showing acts of mercy you know

god was merciful to you by virtue of the fact that you exist and you did not need to exist, you know, put in materialist terms, it's like, you know how there's so much, there are so many ways in which we could be killed as human beings and we're just not. There's there's a chance you could

have been born blind and you weren't. You know, there's a chance you could have died early and

you haven't. You know, the chance is always there. You can never be certain about it. You can never

be certain about it. So it's like in a way, you can never

fully know it or be certain. Yeah, we can have science and have an extent to prevent. Yeah, sure.

We also, you know, but you can never fully be certain and to that extent there's a degree of mercy

that you are given just by existing and living and breathing you know um and and this applies to so many things

you know christianity you know what the word for mercy and christianity is forgiveness and

i think it means the same exact thing.

You know, it literally means the same thing.

Christ died.

You know, I know Muslims don't believe Christ died.

See, this is why I'm a heretic, because I don't care about these distinctions.

In Christianity, there's something meaningful about the fact that Christ dies.

And I'm not here to erase that meaning.

So I'll roll with it, you know, to the extent that I'm able to communicate the actual meaning, you know?

I'm not an imam, all right?

I'm not a religious authority.

I haven't, I'm not a scholar.

I haven't, I'm just telling you, like, how I see it, you know?

Yeah. telling you like how i see it you know again sorry let me continue um um so what was i saying um ah yeah there's so many things you could apply it to even not just debt also

you know what another word for mercy is it's the benefit of the doubt. It's good faith. They call it good faith. It's like, I'll be merciful to you because I know that no one is God. No one is perfect. And, you know,

I'm not going to sit here and assume

the worst of your intentions

just because you make mistakes and get

things wrong.

That's another way of showing

mercy. And the thing I like about islam and i'm sure christianity is the

same but this is just what i know is it's like by default you should be a merciful person

just like god is merciful. That's the default. Now, when you

find out that someone is bad faith and is malicious, of course, you have a right to defend yourself.

You have a right to self-defense.

Because mercy can only be given from a position of strength.

And in Islam, strength is not necessarily being superior to others, but it's having the integrity of honor.

It's having honor to stand on and maintaining that honor

and to maintain honor you need to protect it your honor must be protected

i think that's one of the main differences with christianity actually i've noticed maybe right

in christian Christianity even a bum can forgive right but can a bum show mercy to you you know in Christianity a large degree of emphasis when it comes to forgiveness is placed on

moral forgiveness. Like, I forgive you morally. So thank you for not thinking I'm a bad person,

but are you really forgiving me, though?

Are you really forgiving me as a human

being? Are you really forgiving me

in terms of my actual

existence?

It's like an evangelical can go into

power and be like, listen up,

poor people. I forgive you morally, but you're still in debt and you're still, and it's like, well, thank you for forgiving me, but it's like, how can you prove

your forgiveness is sincere and not

just something born of

convenience?

That's my problem with Christianity.

It's like, how

do you know if the forgiveness is

a matter of convenience or if it's sincere?

Like, it's hard to tell.

You know, another example of this is leftists who lament Bolshevik terror.

They're like, oh, you know, they're like, yeah, you know, uh, I'm actually just going to take the high road on this one and let the ruling class win.

And it's like to preserve my moral superiority. And it's like to preserve my moral superiority.

And it's like,

uh,

but,

you know,

how is that,

how are you superior

if you're not doing it from a position of strength though you know if you're not

already in a position of strength how can you be moral how is it moral to let the enemy win how is that

moral you know and then there's there a, then they'll be like some. I'm not saying all. I'm saying

the one I don't personally like. They'll be like, well, I'm taking the high road in my

magic kingdom

that's not real

but it's just like in my head.

And I'm like,

all right.

That's the purity thing

I don't like from the fake Christians.

I guess I'd call them. It's like, okay,

you're taking the high road in your head, but not in the actual real world. And don't tell me,

oh, this is not the, this is the heavenly heavenly here after that's not what you're talking about

you're talking about your head you're talking about your thoughts you're not talking about some

supernatural super world you're not talking about that because that's actually something real at the end of the day.

You're talking about your thoughts and your head and your mind.

It means you move on and you give people another chance.

Yeah, I agree.

I definitely agree, like 100%.

But you can't do that if you have no honor to stand on.

If your honor is gone and you're you're you are not

engaging in an action you are engaging in the opposite you're passive right that's why i prefer the word

mercy anyway guys is anyone offended by what I'm saying here?

Because, like, it's literally just...

I'm not a religious authority.

I'm not here to offend anyone's religion.

I'm a stupid, imperfect, you know, person.

I'm not here to i'm i'm i'm just um spitballing put it put it that way like

i don't want to offend anyone or make it seem like i'm trying to say one religion is better than the

other i'm just telling you like how i how i've seen it or make it seem like I'm trying to say one religion is better than the other.

I'm just telling you like how I've seen it, you know?

Not necessarily how you should see it,

because I could be wrong about all this stuff.

There could be a lot I'm missing, right?

Um... right um um yeah oh yeah you guys are all the california people's all right. We love the California

people. Anyway,

I don't think it's

necessary to go over so many times.

It's time to just say that religious people are

included in this movement.

You know, Sabsey,

that's true. It's a given. But I'm not actually pandering.

Some people think like, oh, Haas is really just an atheist, and he's just pandering to religious people to not offend them,

which I find it based that people think that,

because I don't want religious communities to feel like they can hold me accountable

for not repeating the thought patterns they want me to repeat.

But I have to confess something to you guys and be honest.

As a communist, this has the entire weight of religion for me.

Like, this is not a career.

This is not, like, a gimmick for me.

Like, I believe, I have the same, probably more.

Like, the same way i believe in communism uh not like as a society but like as a as an outlook and as a truth and so on and so on like that is cosmological that is ontological that is

everything it has the same weight of and conviction as an ancient religious believer it's the same i say ancient for a. It's the same, I say ancient for a reason. It's the same thing, you know. And it's like, it's very hard for me to make sense of my communist conviction without oftentimes referencing in my own head religion it's very difficult and i reference both

christianity and islam you know i reference both of them you know i think about jesus a lot

so i'm talking about it now, you know. But I also think about Islam a lot, you know. And this is how I make sense of my own communist faith and conviction.

This is the standard I measure it by.

And something I'll notice about philosophers or self-proclaimed philosophers.

Karim, that's a good question i'll answer in a second i just want to say this so i don't forget it something i notice about philosophers that always at the end of philosophy it's just religion

can i tell you how many theorists and academic philosophers I've seen who are like Marxists exhaust the full extent and go the full way?

And they're like, you know what?

I just realized and proved through philosophy catholicism is correct and it's sad when i

watched this because i'm like no you didn't you were just a catholic the whole time you never actually

became an atheist you're you're just a catholic whole time, and you're coming full circle through

philosophy. Now, Muslims do the same thing. How do I know? Because I did that, right? I'm sure

Orthodox people do the same thing. Jewish people do the same thing. They think that philosophy has produced this fundamental metaphysical truth that

some, for some reason, it parallels religion. Wow! And then they take that as like proof of

that that specific religion being correct. And's like well no because philosophy is always

downstream from faith religious faith is the most fundamental thing and it's unconscious it's not

just conscious it's unconscious. It's not just conscious. It's unconscious. Philosophy is purely

conscious, you know, uh, uh, relationships of thought. That is fundamentally and fully downstream from religious conviction and faith.

So the whole time you were just realizing your religious faith that you already had in a different way.

And I'm kind of sick of people who are like, oh my God, it turns out to be religion.

And it's like, yeah yeah but you're not thinking critically

you know i like to think critically about my religious faith i don't just say oh philosophy

proves Islam it's like well I've always been a Muslim.

I've always had Muslim faith.

So I think critically about that.

I try to think about the other perspective.

I try to think about my blind spots that that gives me.

I try to think about the relationship between philosophy and religion in the first place.

And only then I feel like you're a cultured, universal, you know, Renaissance man.

I'm so sick of buffoons, like, you know, they just like

they're just philosophers

and wow like

you know who did this was Al Thusser

and all of Althusser's followers

I'm not knocking on Catholics

but I'll tell you something I'm really annoyed of.

Oftentimes, there will be Italian-descended, Ellis Island descended, Brooklyn academics, and Irish and Scottish, you know, Marxist academics.

And, you know, they'll read Marxism through Althusser and through Spinoza and through Elin Badiou.

And then they're like, oh my God, Catholicism was the truth.

And I'm not knocking on the Catholic faith.

The Catholic faith is perfectly legitimate.

I'm just saying that specific procedure of trying to, oh, the whole time Marxism was Catholicism,

you're not open enough to the biases you already had which led you to interpret marxism in the

specific way you did through spinosa and through altusaire through bedou and so on and through

this whole current of french thinking which was always Catholic.

Yeah, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you know, um, you're, you're, you're, you know, um the religion you were born in, you know?

I'm just calling that, but Jewish thinkers do the same.

Marxist Jewish thinkers. The Frankfurt school people, I like Benjamin, I like

Walter Benjamin, but sometimes

they're just like Catholics, Jewish

Marxists will be like, oh, I was an atheist.

But then, you know, when I thought really hard about Marxism, it turned out to just be Judaism. And it's like, well, the way you were thinking about it was reflecting of the religious views you had in the first place. So no. No, like, that's not what it

proves. You know, it doesn't prove that Marxism is, is that specific theological vision in particular.

Now, if you want to know what I think Marxism really, is it Catholic, is it Jewish, is a Muslim, is it, it's all of them.

It's all of them.

All of these, Marxism reflects the inner truth of all of these, you know, and Marxism can be read

through all of these religions. But when we reduce it to one in particular, to the exclusion of others, that's when I think we've committed a mistake, a dogmatism.

It's Abrahamic. I'm sure you can reconcile Marxism with Confucianism and with the Eastern religions as well.

Like Buddhism and stuff.

I think people really need to re-examine what Marx said about religion, because I feel like people still don't understand it.

Marx, when he said religion was the estranged reality of mankind, the alienated essence of man.

Um, Anonymous.

Was Spinoza just a failed Muslim?

No.

Why didn't he convert?

Now we have Neil de Grastheson and German sex clubs instead, and it sucks.

Man, it sucks. Please do a European Islam communism too thanks thanks so much I appreciate that um what Marx was really trying to say is that you know religion is such an unexplored topic in general, but there's a reason I think even Heidegger has to bracket religion, never engaging with it, you know? Because

religion

is a far more

fundamental way

of relating

Thank you, E.J.,

I appreciate it, of relating to

being, being as such, as Heidegger would put it,

then anything that can be given articulation by thought consciously or within philosophy.

What religion is really about is the marx elevates religion to the dignity of the universal whole of humanity you know it's everything it's not ontology and

metaphysics and one specific thing within the division letter it's not politics. It's not this specific horizon.

It's literally everything.

It's everything.

You know, it's literally everything.

It is, religion is the way in which everything comes together comes together you know and points toward a more

fundamental horizon of meaning which is just it it's not some ethereal bluff of thought it's everything it's the truth of everything you know

and like for marks that only religion has that ability within the whole alienated world of mankind and the division of labor within it only religion is the human the truly human sphere within that everything else is just kind of separated from the only religion according to

marx is man the essence of man separated from man itself as a particular sphere within the

division of labor.

But it's man as such.

He's getting that from Feuerbach and so on and so on.

But you think man, he's debasing the religion to the worldly, or not the worldly, the thought of man that we have in our head, the conceit of man.

So it's like atheist humanism.

But it's more profound than that.

He's making a statement about how religion on a more fundamental level is the language it's the vocabulary it's the

form of feeling he literally says the sensuous feeling the affect you know uh given to mankind

about everything,

everything that matters as far as man

is concerned, everything that matters.

You know?

So that should be appreciated when you should never i don't i'm sick you should never you know get into philosophy and politics and be like oh my god this specific creed is...

No, you should be more critical, you know, in the sense of like, understand what religion actually is in the first place.

Now, ironically, I just told you this, and yet I'm going to say something that might be unexpected.

I do think there is something uniquely Christian about communism and Marxism.

And why that is is because Christianity, the way way i see it was about giving expression to a specific schism

schism metaphysical schism historical schism civilizational schism within humanity and it was the first way in which first for the first time that kind of schism was given recognition you know it was later given expression as the worldly and the heavenly and thought and matter and all these kind of dualisms.

But originally, it was about how there was this strange parallel in Christianity between this small tribe, the Jews and Judea, they're so small and insignificant, right?

There's a story going on within there, who cares, right?

Somehow this is a parallel, it's a homology, it's a microcosm

of the whole empire,

the whole Roman Empire.

And it's like, that was the schism.

That was the schism of these two

dimensions of reality,

like the inner and the outer, right?

Or reality like the inner and the outer right um or if you want to think about it it was the roman the grecio roman the helenics and then the semites you can also think of it that way but that was that was the But that was one of the fundamental divisions at question in Christianity.

How is it that something so big could be summarized and concentrated into something so small?

It's like God himself, God himself,

is concentrated into one man.

You know?

It's like a parallel for the whole Roman Empire

and just this squabble within Judea.

You know?

This whole horizon of universal existence and civilization the whole fundamental truth of the empire was revealed in this local dispute which was local

it had no immediate universal significance at first.

Now, and Kareem, I haven't forgotten your question.

I'm going to get to that right away.

But, now, when Marxism talks about the estrangement of religion from man, you know,

talks about the alienation and estrangement and the division of labor and so on and so on

that is the problematic that is the quintessential thing that is at question in Christianity. That is what Christianity was able to recognize, and that is what Christianity struggled with from the very beginning, is that there's this division that's the like you can be religious overtly but like

it doesn't correspond to the essence of religion the the the essence and the form do not correspond. And

there's something fundamentally

Christian about communism because

communism is insisting upon the same

distinction and difference that Christ

did.

Communism is saying that all of these figures of morality and religion and authority and power, all of them are wrong.

And they betray the very essence. They pretend to be one with, you know, like is communism Satanismism is it is it immoralism no is communism like oh we were

going to evil bad guys or whatever no it's the opposite it's giving expression to this it's what logo said that somehow the letter of the gospel and the spirit of the gospel became separated but that very separation is what christianity gave recognition to for the first time in the first place. And you know what, you know, I'm not a dogmatic Muslim because Muslims did not conquer this separation. Muslims neglected this separation. This is what I attribute to be one of the factors in the fall of the Islamic world.

Why did Europe rise and Islamic world got the Turkey became the sick man of Europe and got left behind well you can there's many causes maybe but Islam eventually got too comfortable because it neglected that fundamental distinction you know between the essence and the the the appearance between the essence and the the appearance between the form and the content it it stopped

problemizing that distinction and that's why to me to be a real Muslim in the 21st century

you have to go back to Christianity because there's

something in Christianity we Muslims civilizational speaking skipped over too fast and we didn't give

it enough weight and enough attention.

And the way we go back to Christianity is through communism.

That's how we Muslims go back to our own premises.

And, you know, it's crazy because the eschatchatology in Islam it literally says the same thing i'm saying because who comes in in the end times jesus does jesus the messiah returns with the mahdi you know

and defeats uh theajal, right?

So Christianity comes, Christ comes back.

So I think that it was the way in which Muslims were, if I'm a materialist, you know,

were giving recognition to the fact that they had some unaccounted business with the Christian foundations of Islam.

They were putting it off into the future.

Well, now it cannot be put off into the future.

Now the end times are here and christ returns through

communism that is the return of christ in my islamic eschatology the way i see it.

Anyway, don't send this to the dogmatic Muslims because they'll get so pissed that I'm taking so many liberties talking about the religion in such a reckless way.

But it's like, I'm about some real shit. I'm not about it's like, I'm about some real shit.

I'm not about some fake shit.

I'm about some real shit.

I'm about some real shit.

If I'm going to talk about religion,

it's going to be real.

It's like, you know, it's like Tupac said,

he's like, why should we care about religion?

He's like, what, you're going to scare us about hell?

He said, they told us in hell everybody's walking around like a zombie.

He's like, that's, you know, that's Harlem or whatever.

That's Oakland.

I mean, people are already fucking walking, tweaking out, and drug addicts and shit.

He said, oh, you're going to get tortured. And you and shit he said oh you're gonna get tortured and you're he said we're already suffering here and now what are you gonna you're gonna scare us

you're not gonna scare us he said the only way religion works is if it inspires us you know it it it it um if it's through inspiration and faith there's no compulsion in religion you know um there's no compulsion in religion

but uh look

I have to respond to the guy

socialism done left

well I'll briefly

I guess I'll briefly...

I guess I'll briefly respond to it.

The part that he talks about with me.

So, here's the thing.

So because this guy's stupid, uh, and he is a really

stupid guy, by the way, he's like a 40-year-old creep or something. I don't know. He's like 50. I don't

even know how old he is. Anyway, he's like the chief, uh, defender of women. He's like the,

he sees himself as the Papa Bear defender of women. He's like the...

He sees himself as the Papa Bear of all women.

He's like...

He's the male feminist...

Women...

...authority, right?

All women are in his harem,

and he's the guardian.

He's the alpha male.

That's how he sees himself.

But he's just like a creepy, 49-year-old,

like, creepy guy.

Anyway, uh,

anyway, we have a long history with this retard but

he made a video and his

uh what is it

his smoking gun is this article

by dogan now when you read this article which he doesn't do

which he doesn't do all you find is dougan saying actually like the actual real historical

fascism, yeah, that was just national

capitalism. And

what Dugan is, what Dugan

means by fascism

is something totally

different. That's not even real like the

actual fascism in history.

So it doesn't take long for Dugan after writing this text in 1997 to actually just

fully repudiate fascism itself, because it literally had nothing to do with what he was looking for.

And the only reason he was flirting with the word fascism, which I totally disagree with,

that he did, by the way, but the reason he did that is because in the immediate post-Soviet context, it was the Communist Party of the Soviet Union that dissolved the Soviet Union.

And then after the traditional kind of like in power communism

there was just liberalism

so Dugan's like okay so there's this other thing

called fascism that's the other alternative

which is a total mistake

by the way but it's like he didn't actually mean

the real Nazism

or like actual Mussolini fascism this what he's talking about here

is just some nebulous term that he's using to stand in for uh uh something that doesn't exist

but is an alternative to both the soviet communism and liberalism

now i'm pro-soviet communism but can i really blame dougan for not being faithful to it after it was Gorbachev and the Communist Party of the Soviet Union that dissolved the Soviet Union in the first place, you know? And, you know, listen, by the, by the 70s, there aren't many real diehard believers in the Soviet Union anymore.

It's very cynical by the late 70s.

With the exception of guess who, Evald Elienkhov.

Now, I personally spoke at length with the Eurasian youth movement when I was in Moscow,

and they are all well-read on Ilyankov. They read Eliancov. They take it seriously.

So they're not, you know, they're not anti-communists. They just don't really,

they don't, they don't feel like they can just fall back on the authority of the Soviet communism that was gone and is gone, you know.

But on the other hand, there's validity to the perspective of people from the KPRF, which say, no, that authority is still here. It's in the

infrastructure, you know, it's in the legacy of the Soviet state, which is still here. It's not

fully gone. And then the Eurasianists will say, well, that's true, but in this more like

metaphysical sense, it's not satisfying

our need for making sense of reality. And then, you know, the KPRF people might say, like,

who cares about that? You know, here it is. So it's a kind of dispute where obviously I'm a

communist and it's point a gun

at me, I'm with the KPRF,

but I sympathize with the Eurasianist view.

I think that I

want there to be more dialogue. I want

there to be, I don't think this is a fundamental

disagreement, you know.

But, yeah, Dugan wrote this in 1997 and totally broke with any flirtation with the word fascism or third positionism after in the 2000s.

Which is seriously concerned with the problem of power and feels acutely the power of time.

What are you talking about? Yet the quote, national capitalist, quote, right-wing variation of fascism does by no means exhaust the

nature of this ideology. Moreover, the union of the quote, natural dream to give birth to a

society of the hero and the Superman to change and transform the world. Yeah, this is all the

mythical nonsense that they build into it to conceal its basic purpose as we were just reading

earlier. On the economic level, fascism is characterized rather by socialist or moderately socialist methods.

Yeah, but,

yeah,

but does this guy not realize

that he is accusing

Nazi Germany and

fascist Italy

of just being national

capitalist states?

Continuing,

so what is Dugan disguising?

Do you think Dugan is literally working with Mussolini and Hitler who are dead?

Dugan's writing this in 1997 when fascism, depending on how you, I mean, I would say NATO was fascist

but that's clearly not what he's referring to

it really doesn't have significance

I don't know how concretely

him writing this makes him a fascist

absolutely not taken to account the specific philosophical

self-reflection of fascist ideology

and consciously ignores the fundamental core pathos of fascism, which again, Marxism is not concerned with

because it's concerned with class struggle, which is actually the motive force of history.

But continue.

Also, all he has to do is say the phrase class struggle without telling us what it actually

means, and that should satisfy our curiosity. can be your devil and your angle. But really, while this may appeal to some socially clueless edge lords, for those of us who understand ruling class ideology

to be reflections of the material needs of the ruling class,

how do you not see that this is a capitalism which needs to be more brutal,

more violent, more anti-intellectual, more hateful and cruel,

because it is trying to oppose the will of the masses who yearn for liberation.

Remember the... I don't think what Dugan is talking about here is even inherently fascist. I think it could easily be applied to communism. If you're talking about an impossible dream and a great myth and transcendental idea

and a society of the hero

I think Dugan is talking about

something that was there in the Soviet Union

that he wants to tap into

more

but

why are these things

you know, this is stupid.

The actual core purpose of fascism is to block socialist

revolution. So the ideology it comes up with is all about meeting

that aim. Continuing, he loves the cold and tragedy.

He does not like that. I obviously agree

that the purpose of fascism is to

as anti-communism but you're being dishonest if

if you accuse dougan of espousing that when he wrote this that's clearly clearly dougan is

misusing the term fascism here, which I fully agree. He's misusing it. But if Dugan is misusing the term fascism, then this text is not proof that he's a fascist. Dugan is using the word fascism in a way that's mistaken.

He's not talking about fascism.

He's clearly talking about,

he's talking about,

it's like, it's like,

in the way that leftists say, there's no true communism you know it's like

it's just like in a

it's just like a projection for whatever ideal he wants to

have it's a it's a

you know totally intangible

unreal thing which is super any it's a, you know, totally intangible, unreal

thing.

Which is super anti-intellectual, and it's supposedly against the

established traitors. So it's this sort of meritocracy just based on

brutality. And I don't know who this would appeal to, other than people

who already bought into basically other toxicly masculine, hypercompetitive

ideology. And think that we, okay.

Now, when you, when you start seeing this guy talk about hyper-masculine, I mean, I went to Moscow, and this guy would probably lose his shit if he saw how hyper-masculine Soviet aesthetics are.

Chris, what's up?

It's so hilarious because Limonov was the real Nazi, and leftists never call him out.

Only Dugan.

Yeah.

Yeah. We all thought he was closer toeningov was the anarchist. Yeah.

We all thought he was closer to fascism in the 90s. So this whole thing about like, oh, masculine versus feminism.

Yeah, that's not at issue for actual world communism.

Like, that was never, oh, the difference between fascism and communism is that fascism is hypermasculine it's like no one ever thought that in the actual communist world no one ever litigated the question of like the importance of manhood and like the masculine aesthetics

of these big statues

you know and like

military power

and these kinds like

militancy

comradeship like these are

that was never

called into question by any communist state ever. That was a

given, all right?

That they're going to come out on top. To anybody else, this would sound like... What Dugan is doing is just kind of

mythologizing the Soviet civilization. And he's describing attributes of this civilization as

fascist because that's exactly what liberals in Russia were doing. They were calling the Soviet Union red fascism. So Dugan is just taking that,

ripping that, and he's like

running with it, I guess.

But to say this is actual

fascism we're talking about here,

I don't think so.

The actual fascism

is not a philosophy or an ideal. It was a real terrorist dictatorship. So. anyway. What?

Until he got on the MI5 payroll and started beating up anti-World War I protesters.

That is an actual fact, by the way.

But yeah, the purpose is always to defend capitalism.

So, of course, there's going to be mainly a conservative base.

He's like, he's like, yeah, I know Dugan is saying

Mussolini and Hitler and all these guys

are like sold out or were under the payroll of

the capitalists. But like, yeah, dude, you didn't know that?

Like, like, you're not, I didn't know that? Like, you're not...

I need to remind this idiot that the goal of his video wasn't to show that Dugan shouldn't have used the word fascism.

I agree that Dugan shouldn't have used that word.

Your goal was to show how Dugan himself is somehow a fascist, and you're not doing that.

You're proving the opposite.

By your own logic.

You're like, oh, yeah.

But Hitler was like under the payroll of the – it's like, well, that's what he's saying here too, though.

Owners and corporation heads.

Yeah, those were just, you know,

oh, they had to Ford alliances.

No, that's who they were working for.

Always.

Get this copper.

Um,

I agree with, uh, the, the commentator of this video as much as I hate him. Yeah, I mean, they, they weren't forced. They definitely were from the beginning. Like, I totally agree with that.

But I don't think that Dugan

you know, making a mistake

historically here, I don't think that makes him a fascist.

I think that...

I just think that he

could use the Marxist-Leninist

analysis of fascism, definitely.

But you know what?

He's acknowledging it, though. That's the thing.

He's acknowledging the facts

he's he's yeah he's not he's not um giving enough attention to the causes i agree but he at least

he's recognizing the facts here you know i don't think an actual fascist would say this.

Plorable for the fascist regimes.

Well, no, it's just that it didn't really work, or it worked only to a limited extent.

The fanatic anti-communism of was obscured by the actual reality of fascism.

And that's his, like, uh, illusion in this text. And it's a false view he has,

which is never proven, but it's just like a false ideal and fantasy. And he himself recognizes this.

You know, this is why he repudiates fascism later. This is Britain in

1997.

Capitalists cost Germany the defeat in its war with the USSR. Really? So you're just going to blame the German capitalists for that as if Hitler wasn't an eager and enthusiastic anti-

I think Hitler was acting on behalf of the German capitalist.

Isn't that what you just said?

So what's the point of making the distinction?

Right.

Anyway, while Mussolini, trusting into the honesty of the king, which you know, any principal, intelligent person definitely would do who's trying to bring revolution to a country, revolution in several sets of scare quotes there.

Anyway, trusting into the honesty of the king, articulator of the interests exactly of big business.

Yeah, so surprising.

Was delivered by him to the renegades of Odolio and Siano who put the duchy into prison and threw themselves into the embrace of the Americans.

Franco held out the longest, and even that because of the concessions of liberal capitalist England and USA?

Wait, are you telling me that the USA?

No, no, I don't believe this guy saying that the USA is willing to prop up anti-communist regimes? No, no, that's not,

that can't be true. I'll be right back. Okay, I'm back.

And I did some reading, and apparently that is a thing that happens.

All right. And because of his rejection to support the ideologically related

regimes of the axis.

When you ask Dugan, though,

you know, just read this. Like, okay, what is real fascism, though? He's clearly not referring to anything that has actually existed. So concretely, he's not a fascist. Dugan realizes that he's looking for something that satisfies the peculiarity of the historical predicament Russia had found itself in.

And he's using the word fascism here as an edgy provocation because it's what liberals would constantly accuse

this is the essence of authoritarianism

is fascism. So Dugan is

flirting with this and I totally disagree

with that. Totally disagree

with that, but it's not fair to call him

a fascist.

All of the imperialist countries

are fascistic to see, look, this guy is just

he's reading it out and he's like,

chiming in with one or two sentences

making commentary. So this

video isn't debunking anything or

like saying anything

really it's just like he's offering

commentary in the form of like a sentence or to

every paragraph

which okay

so let me just guess he's

what the hell does this even mean?

Okay, like that's totally not materialist

because like, I don't understand it.

Excuses for Dugan and the people

who follow him. So this is posted this year on Twitter. I would suggest

reading Duggan yourself rather than judging a guy from his early 20s.

Well, we're not judging him from his early 20s. And I get that.

I mean, actually people in their 20s. Well, we're not judging him from his early 20s. And I get that. I mean, actually, people in their 20s, you know, you're politically learning that's a time when people,

generally from like a developmental perspective are starting to switch from personal and family awareness into broader social consciousness. And depending on in what society you're trying to do that,

and that may take longer or shorter period of time to come to some kind of actually good class-based politics that represent your actual class interests and an actual path to freedom for the poor and exploited peoples of the world. But I think that we can contrast that kind of

a situation with Dugan, who clearly was very committed to the fascist movement. And I would say,

judging from even his more recent writings, still... But what fascist movement? Which one are you

talking about? Because the neo-Nazi movements, he totally repudiated them,

the racist movements, he totally anti-immigrant racist movements, he repudiated.

So which ones are you talking about?

Because, you see, how is this guy a materialist?

He goes, Dugan was with the fascist movement.

And the proof is, look at this, look at this, look at this literary poetry nonsense he wrote in 1997 about this, this literal like artistic

aesthetic

um

misuse of the word

fascism

which is totally not referring to anything tangible or concrete at all,

let alone a real movement. So what fascist movement are we talking about here?

No matter how he might be more skillful today at cloaking that in, you know, however he's trying to sell it with the geopolitics, Eurasia stuff. So yeah, anyway, rather than how he's changed since then, I would argue it really hasn't changed very much at all. He's a post- Okay, why not though? Modern thinker that sees the world in terms of civilizations. He isn't a Nazi. He isn't a fascist. Now, again, this is just running cover for a guy who very clearly is a

fascist. Why? Because he wrote something in 1997 that when you actually read it, isn't even

it's not like he's like praising Hitler and shit. It's like so stupid.

Fourth political theory, sort of like the main work

that he's known for

is just chock full

of all the kinds of

well we'll take something

from Marx

but we're going to bend it here

and you know

it's trying to dress up

capitalist politics

in some kind

of revolutionary

or socialist dressing

which is

look look

I don't know

what this guy's name is

I hate calling him

his name. I'm just going to call him the 40 year old creep. Oh, that's

too long. Um, dude, your goal here isn't to prove that Dugan's revolutionary credentials are not

high up enough. Oh, Dugan's a capitalist.

It's like,

all right,

whatever, man.

It's like,

you know,

we're not saying Dugan's a communist.

We're not saying he's a Marxist-Leninist.

Like,

nobody said that.

Nobody said Dugan was like a Marxist leninist. Like, nobody said that. Nobody said Dugan was like a Marxist leninist.

What we're pushing back against is the attempt to cancel him by calling him a Nazi and associating anyone who engages with his work with Nazism.

That's what we're pushing

back against. Nobody is trying

to say that Dugan

is the sixth head of Marxism.

Like, are you retarded?

Yes, you are retarded. You're just a stupid

person. All the shit slinging, oh, Infrasil, you are retarded. You're just a stupid person.

All the shit slinging... Oh, Infrasel.

You're Infercell.

The king of pussy calls me...

Yeah.

Whatever, dude.

It's like, all this is just to make up for the fact that you're just a really stupid person. You're just

haven't thought any of this out much.

You're holding Dugan to the standard

of being a revolutionary Marxist

Leninist when nobody said

that's what he was. At all.

Exactly what he was describing at the end of

fascism, borderless and red.

Too much craziness

on the left,

calling everyone a fascist.

Well, I think in this case

it's justified.

And actually I'll say it's unreasonable

to say that it isn't.

So it's just craziness.

Oh,

everything I don't like is fascism.

Well,

I would say that people write essays calling for fascism So that's your smoking gun, that one essay from 1997 when you actually read, which he went where he denounces all the actual fascist movements and states as national capitalist.

And only when he when called upon to describe what he means by fascism is talking about something totally

intangible and really not fascism at all they're justified anyway they take one thing or represent

things out of context and which he doesn't even agree with anymore, by the way, which he repudiates now.

Bonkers on it. Well, what's the context that makes this okay? Please tell me. These same leftists

fundamentally view things along the lines of Hitler, but express it differently a lot of the time, have the same philosophical foundations.

You know what's crazy? East Germany will literally have former Nazi party members, like in the military, like in positions

of authority, you know, who repented for their wrong views.

But they were part of the Nazi party, which, like, carried out the Holocaust.

But Dugan wrote an edgy art piece in 1997 with no concrete connection to fascism at all in any way.

And somehow this makes him like any association with him is like you are a Nazi yourself.

It's kind of crazy.

Assumptions, the will as driver of social reality, etc.

What are you talking about?

For me, this is in response to

Dugan's fascism.

Now we're talking about

these leftists are Hitler,

which incidentally,

we're going to talk about

the rise of

mega-communism essay by Infrasel,

one of, again,

the co-founders of the

American, quote, unquote,

This guy's so funny, because if I saw him in real love, I just beat this shit out of him.

I'd slap this shit out of this guy.

He tries to disrespect me like this.

Like, oh, Infraso.

Infercell.

It's like, okay, I have a name. All right.

He's like trying to dehumanize me, you know?

Okay.

Well, do it to my face, bitch.

You can Noah is one of the signatories of.

And there's the same ranting in there about the leftists or Nazis.

That's like 50% of the piece is basically that.

Anyway, for me, Noah, it serves a far greater purpose to actually engage with things on their own terms and understand them than it does to try to get people to dismiss them.

Well, we just read word for word through that entire thing and did try to put it into context.

It's just rehashed, warmed over original wave fascism because there's...

Yeah, that's where you're wrong.

I don't see how it's original fascism at all. I don't, can you please find anything from the canon of actual official fascist canon, like the officiated by the fascist parties is like part of their political literature that comes anywhere near close

what Dugan wrote in 1997

there's nothing

It's very shallow. It has one purpose. It is to try to confuse people

into abandoning the revolution and to suppressing

and opposing people who still try to pursue it. Thank you, Barrio.

See, the thing is, retard, it's not even that until, it's not, you're giving it too much credit.

Fascism was not this huge movement.

It wasn't this, like, big thing.

It was literally just some thugs that the capitalist hired to beat people up and it seized power on the basis of a violent dictatorship that ruled through terror it was literally just a terroristic dictatorship of monopoly capital and some people were taking drugs

while this happened, and

they were taking cocaine.

And that's why Musil...

Oh, yeah, the will! The triumph of the

will! And it's like, there was nothing really

profound behind it at all. All right?

It wasn't like some serene, grand ideology.

You're giving it way too much credit.

It's the Italian futurists, and it's like...

But there was also Russian futurists

so it's like it wasn't

you're reading too much into it honestly

so anyway

yeah that's engaging with it on its terms

so doing that only makes people interested in them

well again we're not doing that but even that argument like do you think that the

entire mass of the population has the mentality

of, like, a 13-year-old? So, just strange.

You know why?

Probably, like, yeah, probably

worse at most people are really stupid.

I mean, the fact that this guy has

any followers or subscribers

and that revere him as, like,

or regard him as like a credible person

and not a total

fucking retard

proves that yeah

most people are stupid as shit

I know that Nazi doctrine

is objectively wrong

I don't know was it

the genocides

because I engaged with its theory.

Okay.

But you're saying that you've engaged with the theory of doing it.

Although he actually says elsewhere that he hasn't really engaged.

He hasn't read that much of Duggan, et cetera.

So which is it?

So you know that Dugan's okay.

He's just a misunderstood.

All right. Let's just skip to to the part where he mentions me. It is trying so hard at all times. All kinds of random phrases

are put in italics. All right. So let me guess. He's not

going to engage with this. He's just going to say he didn't

understand it and pretend that that makes him

smarter somehow. No particular

reason. But as far as the communism goes, you know, is this person

the vanguard? Some kind of... Oh, let's control F.

You're not going to... We're not going to read it and try to understand it,

but let's just control F it and see what we can get

in terms of the virtue signaling or the lack thereof.

A leader who should be forming a vanguard party that you should join.

No, let's just take a few quotes, which there's absolutely no context.

Yeah, let's just take quotes out of context.

Which can possibly justify them. Here on page 24, we have, quote,

communists do not want to, in quotes, socialize people's actual belongings. True, if you mean

personal property like toothbrushes, correct? Or even businesses. Wrong. Profoundedly wrong. Communists do not want to

socialize people's businesses. What kind of communist are you? I would say not a communist.

Well, you can say that, but in China, people are allowed to have businesses in the same way

they're allowed to have belongings. Now, the state ultimately owns everything, but people are allowed to engage in forms of

entrepreneurship that are theirs, that they can take credit for, you know, and you do not

regard, this is what you're not telling your audiences, though.

You don't regard China as ruled by a legitimate Communist Party, but I do.

I don't think...

I think this idiot also confuses private property with individual property, and by extension, private business with individual business or entrepreneurship.

So first of all, a communist state will probably encourage cooperative enterprise, but individual enterprise will still exist after the seizure of dictatorship, after the seizure of power.

In fact, there's nothing inherently capitalist about enterprise.

Look up what enterprise means, you fucking fucking retard and it doesn't necessarily

until private property and as far as Marx understands what private property is

the private in private property is not the same thing as individual or somehow, like, discontinuous with a collective plan, a direct collective plan.

The private refers to something that is fundamentally

unaccountable

to the

common reality of production.

That's what's meant by private.

It's fundamentally unaccountable

and fundamentally

unanswerable to in any way

and alienated from.

Private property is a form of alienation.

If you read Marx. Individual entrepreneurship

can definitely exist under socialism. Entrepreneurial initiative can definitely exist within the

context of a broader plan, which establishes a mode of production as fulfilling common goals.

Moreover, you know, entrepreneurship is not about necessarily, like, ownership in the sense of sovereignty.

It's just about the ability to

experiment and do things

outside of established

convention.

Economic activity that's done

on the basis of risk and so on and so on.

This is what entrepreneurs...

In the Soviet Union, even within their rigid state planning,

they had enterprises.

That's what they called them.

If you already know the outcome of all possible economic activity,

you're not even talking about science anymore. You're talking about utopianism. To note, scientific socialism already implies

that we do not automatically know all possible outcomes of

economic activity. There needs to be room for

risk. There needs to be room for

unknowns. There needs to be rooms for

you know, entrepreneurship.

Yeah, the cold calls has also had

experimentation. This guy doesn't even know what he's talking about.

Actually, that's extremely reminiscent of the quote that we read before in Dutt, the thing taken from the fascist week article, fascism calling to the industrialists and businessmen.

Quote, fascism differs from socialism chiefly in this, that in the corporate state, you will be left in possession of your business.

Okay, but notice, notice something that you're

neglecting here. I'm not actually addressing industrialists and big business owners. I'm addressing

ordinary people. You know, for example, I'm addressing somebody who might be a contractor. I'm addressing somebody who might have a small business on the side, you know, an online business maybe, where he had a good idea that he wanted, like I'm addressing the people. i'm not addressing the monopoly capitalist class i'm

not addressing the actual ruling class i'm not addressing you know bill gates or jeff bezos or something

i'm addressing people insofar as business is relatable on a personal level, you know, on a personal level.

You know who else is a business owner?

You are, you fucking hypocrite.

You own a fucking YouTube channel, which

is a business. If it's monetized,

it's a business. If you do

anything outside be an employee,

you are running a

business of some kind or engaging

in entrepreneurial activity.

I would say not a communist.

Actually, that's extremely reminiscent

of the quote that we read before in Dutt,

the thing taken from the fascist week.

It's not reminiscent at all,

you fucking idiot.

I mean, holy shit.

Mao did not immediately socialize

people's businesses.

That happened later, like a decade later, after seizing power.

Okay?

So is Mao a fascist too?

You're such a fucking dishonest moron.

Article, fascism calling to the industrialists and businessmen in which actual relations of production will develop will be a matter of history that sentence says nothing

marks and angles something okay that says nothing but that's what marks and angles say

this is our his these are historical laws being fulfills, not personal preferences or ideals.

In a complete sentence, that through the course of the act is stated, that through the course of the actual development of the productive forces, and we're starting to get on real shaky ground here, the institution of private property will become superfluous.

Well, capitalism has contradictions which block further development, but they continue because productive relations will develop as forms of free association.

Yeah, but if it's under the dictatorship of the proletariat, those fetters can be removed.

So that history can develop unfettered and, you know, without being blocked.

Production will have a substantive human quality.

But that doesn't mean all capitalist relations of production disappear overnight,

or all aspects of those relations

are immediately fetters.

That's not true.

They don't become fetters until

they're actually fetters according

to the logic of civil society and

economics, not simply

political ideology,

the fulfillment of an ideal.

Based on relations between people rather than abstractions

like money. And here we go. Communists do not want to force

this outcome on people, but allow it to happen.

Really? So what's a revolution? Why have

all communists been for revolution?

I have to educate this guy, and I'll be patient.

I can educate him.

So socialism for all, and by the way, I'm a communist.

I know you want to play it safe with socialism.

That's fine.

You seize power because you're seizing political dictatorship, the dictatorship of the proletariat.

Under a dictatorship of the proletariat, the actual historical development of the mode of production can occur unabetted and without any fetters.

That's the reason.

The reason is to oversee a transition.

It's not to affect that transition by force because the transition is happening on account of

objective material and historical laws not political ideals but the seizure of political power and

dictatorship through revolution happens because it is necessary that the state and the superstructure, which is outmoded, right, by the time that this happens, which is now, you know,

it's been over 100 years

that the superstructure

has been outmoded, that

this transition can actually

occur, that it becomes,

and it occurs through the unleashing of the

productive forces,

which monopoly capitalism and imperialism is a Federon.

And Lenin talks about that,

and any Marxist worth,

you know,

worth anything talk about that,

you know?

So you're just don't understand Marxism-Leninism.

Marxism-Leninism doesn't say you're going to force the communist mode of production by force.

We're not the ones forcing anything.

It's the current monopoly capitalists that are forcing, you know, the retardation of mankind. They're halting progress by force. So if we have a dictatorship of the proletary, we don't need to force anything. As long as we have that dictatorship, things can flow according to the inner logic of the historical laws themselves. So you don't understand what Marxism, Leninism is. You have an idealistic and voluntarist, fascist view.

Your view is fascism. It's volunteerism.

It's Giovanni Gentile.

And that's what you are. You're a

fascist. C2 can play

at this game.

This is actually sounding a lot more like growing into socialism.

So like Bernstein, Kautzky, renegade.

No, because Bernstein and Kautzky did not believe in the dictatorship of the proletariat in the smashing of the imperialist state machine.

Again, you're confusing two completely different things.

When a proletarian dictatorship seizes power and crushes the capitalist class, whatever

policies they want to embark upon, that on them there's no reformism though because

you're in a position of dictatorship and it's the rule by a communist party so there's reformism and

bernstein and this is irrelevant okay now if you're a reformist, you're proposing a specific strategy in relation

to politics and state power, which is one of we can reform the system, we can reform the

politics and have policies gradually pass that will lead us to so that's reformism

Reformism is not you know, let's seize power violently and by force and then but but still, you know, allow the actual objective civil society and historical

laws to develop freely and according to their actual inner rational logic material

according to the material laws of history, you know?

That is not reformism.

You are an idiot and a midwit who doesn't fucking understand this basic distinction.

The extremity of a ruling communist parties, the radicalism of their policies has nothing to do

with reformism

okay because reformism is about

revolutionary strategy or the lack thereof

that's what reformism is about

opportunists and traitors to the working class communists do not want to of. That's what reformism is about.

Opportunists and traitors to the working class.

Communists do not want to force this outcome on people, but allow it to happen.

Then what is the role of a communist? So... The role of a communist is to

overthrow the people that are not allowing it to happen.

Do you even believe in... Like, do you even believe in the objectiveness, like, historical

fact of socialism?

Do you even believe that, like, according to historical laws, that socialism is inevitable?

Because I do.

That's what Marx and Engels believe.

That's what all Marxist Leninists have always believed that we're not voluntarily creating socialism and communism.

It's actually something inevitable, according to historical laws.

But we have to deal with the political consequences of that fact, which is why we can't just

passively sit by and wait for it to happen.

We have to actually remove the fetters on the mode of production.

I mean, like, is this guy an idiot?

Yeah, he is. Never mind. I already know that.

What is to be done? I mean, is this just spontaneity, just documenting what the masses are doing?

Just allowing it.

What are you talking? Why is he gibbering? Why is he is he like saying? I, this is why this is illiteracy

is a crisis. I wrote a whole text about the partisan and like, he's talking about spontaneity

and like, what are you talking, passively observing the masses? And I literally just, like, wrote an entire thing

talking about, like, a very, very engaged

form of subjectivity, the partisan,

like a literal militant warrior

fighting in the trenches for communism.

It could not happen at the expense of what the people want.

That's true in that the masses drive history, but the masses are also driven by material

interests, which the capitalists are constantly trying to get us to ignore and have consciousness

of other things instead of that.

It could only happen as a result of the people's own historical development.

Yeah, but I mean, that's communist agitate, educate, and organize toward that purpose because capitalism causes immense suffering and we need to get...

Okay, so what are you bitching about if you agree with what I said? It's kind of crazy.

Through it as fast as possible into where it's going to go inevitably if we survive that long.

You know, socialism or extinction.

Socialism is inevitable in the sense that if humanity has a future, it's a socialist one.

But we don't necessarily have a future.

But that doesn't mean socialism is inevitable.

You understand the problem.

You don't believe in the objective historical basis of socialism so you're a fascist

or an anarchist at best you're an idealist socialism for all and i can qualify what i mean by that

you think that

the meaning of the objective

necessity or inevitability of socialism

is that we're either going to have it or we go

extinct. Well, that doesn't make

it inevitable at all. For socialism

to be inevitable, it has

to be inevitable according to some kind of grander historical logic, or at least the logic of the capitalist mode of production itself.

That somehow socialism is arising according to the very nature of the contradictions of the previous mode of production.

This is how motive productions develop and transition into different ones, right?

I mean, capitalism arose from feudalism and so on and so on.

That's not to say there's no political consequences of that,

but you're trying to make it seem like that socialism is inevitable

because you're going to hold a gun to people's head and be like,

you're going to have it or the planet is going to blow up.

And it's like, but that's just like a kind of that's a volunteer that's like a

fascist you know um triumph of the will in the face of extinction or something but that's not that's still

volunteerism that's not actually scientific

socialism though is it

you fucking idiot

trying to

he's trying to like dunk on me

and he doesn't even know the basics

um

and that is something the communists actively do have to help to bring about that's the whole thing of the vanguard again read what is to be done they continue in the meantime yeah we yeah the whole goal of communists is to like tell ourselves that either it's um the thing that we think will work or the human or the world will blow up

and everyone will go extinct and this somehow makes it inevitable why like how does it actually

make it like a matter of objective historical law like nobody's disagreeing with the fact, I mean, it's, I'm a Leninist,

that you have to be responsive to this in the form of waging actively the political struggle.

So you don't just sit by and wait for it to happen. I agree. But it's like, to say that this has no basis in historical laws and that it only has a basis in extinction.

So, so our, you know what he is? I'm going to just say he's like a Nazi biological determinist

racial fascist

because he's saying

our survival instincts

are going to kick in which

are owed to our biology

that we will be compelled to socialism

because we're all scared to die.

But I am a fucking Iranian terrorist, bitch.

That's a joke.

Whoever's listening to this.

But like, I'm a Shia.

We fucking don't care about dying, bitch.

We will gladly go to death.

Where's my survival instinct?

Where's our survival instinct?

Where's Hezbollah's survival instinct?

So fuck you for trying to say that socialism is going to be born from the craven and cowardly passive biological instinct to survive.

Fuck you.

That's not what materialism means.

That's some vulgar Nazi bullshit biological reductionism.

There's nothing to do with materialism.

That's literally just like it ends with race science.

What else?

Because then you're going to say, oh, so if nations are material, then it's just biology and DNA and genes or whatever.

That's not fucking materialism.

That's the fucking ideology of a cow or some kind of passive cattle animal.

It's not a human worldview.

Go fucking read Marx, you idiot.

You're not talking about materialism.

You're talking about biological determinism.

You're talking about some fucking fucking nonsense like you know

some neo-darwinism

or some crazy shit

definitely not

materialism definitely not

dialectics materialist dialectics

you know it's like some fucking gene tard nonsense Definitely not dialectics. Material is dialectics.

You know?

It's like some fucking gene tard nonsense.

Wow.

Lysenko should really have had the, like, total ability to just, like, slaughter these people, honestly. Well, not this guy, but like people of his time

that were like propagating this retarded

worldview. Lysenko literally

should have just taken a chainsaw and slaughtered

all the gene tards. That's a joke.

I'm literally joking.

Literally joking. Anyway,

yeah, this guy's like not talking, he thinks materialism is like the survival instinct. There's no survival instinct. Our life is mediated socially and historically. We don't have an inherent way to make meaningful sense of whatever biological fear of death we might plausibly have.

And I'm still don't know if we really have that hardwired fear.

Because look at white people who, like, jump off roofs and shit.

Where's their instinct, you know?

Anyway, um...

Uh... Ha ha ha ha ha ha. anyway um uh

uh yeah

but you know

it's kind of correct

what I'm saying

though

he's trying to ground Marxism in like survival. It's so fucking stupid. How miserable do you have to be to like wake up and this is what you believe? He thinks Marxism is just survival and that's it. Well, it's a fucking lousy thing to just

survive for the sake of it, I think.

Why don't you go be a

cattle, like some kind of animal?

Can't he just debate you?

Fuck, no, this guy won't debate me.

I literally just

violated him from beyond the grave.

Like, I already killed him.

He's not going to debate me.

You have to understand the extent to which I've exposed.

This guy just has no familiarity with Marxism, Leninism, like on a fundamental

level. Just from me reacting to him reacting to a paragraph I wrote two and a half years ago,

or two years ago, like, you think he's going to debate me?

This is just him reacting to a paragraph I wrote two years ago.

And from that, it's been exposed that he has no knowledge of communism or Marxism at all.

What communist...

No, this is a KKE guy. He he's with the kkee like people so he's just with those

those guys the overthrow of the monopolists the bankers big pharma big agriculture big tech

and others which have oh but didn't you say what i said was reminiscent of something a fascist

said who was actually telling

appeasing these people.

Hijacked the American Republic. It's a conservative language

in the name of the sacred institution of private property.

Okay. I wrote a sentence that is actually

like palpable to an person

who isn't a communist yet

and you're bitching about it because apparently you are and you know, this isn't a communist yet and you're bitching about it

because apparently you are and

you know this isn't I'm not virtue signaling

enough for you in the KKE

like I don't want to be part of your fucking

circle jerks in your little circles

social and four I actually want to talk to the masses

I don't give a fuck about you gatekeeping

bitches. So just, I don't know, go kill yourself or something. I mean, that's what the

American Republic is based on. That's what the whole system is about. This is what we have to move through,

actually. And the only way to get through it is proletitarian revolution. Yeah, what a, what a, what a

great thing to communicate.

The fundamental

thing that you know in our, you're not a

communist. You're not a fucking

communist, okay? This is

not how communists talk.

Look at Demetrov. We have to

reclaim history

from the fascists. We have

to use history,

you know?

And he's like, no, it's inherent.

All of your history is inherently capitalist.

Listen to me, socialism for all.

I'll provide you the way out.

It's just a, first of all, like, okay, rhetorically, it's wrong.

But why is it also theoretically wrong?

Because it isn't an essential fact.

It isn't an essential fact of the historical emergence of an American Republic,

that it inevitably, it inevitably has to be this, you know, monopoly capitalism.

There are ways of properly inheriting the revolutionary legacy of the bourgeois revolutions that give way to a different outcome, know thank you so much lion i like no it's not

true it's not true that history had to result in this way maybe retrospectively sure retrospectively you can

maybe say that but if you took a time machine to 1776 as a communist, you could have led to a totally different outcome. And by the way, Lenin didn't wait for stages of necessity to pass. Neither did Mao. By your logic, they should have done that if what you're saying is true. If it's necessary that every Democratic Republic necessarily

had to go in the direction it did

with monopoly capitalism

why didn't

Mao, why didn't that happen in China

when the Democratic Republic was subsumed

immediately by the proletarian

dictatorship or in Russia in the case of Lenin. And don't call the provisional government

a Democratic Republic because it was a dictatorship and there was no elections. You see, you're an idiot.

You're wrong rhetorically, but also theoretically.

Pollution.

But you're saying you don't want to force this outcome on people.

I mean, yes, like you can't do adventurous things that the masses don't support, but that's

absolutely what communists are gearing up for.

As soon as the masses realize its primacy and are ready to fight.

Anyway, then you don't, you don't have to force an outcome that the masses in their capacity

within civil society, this is another distinction.

Because he thinks when the masses are going to get mobilized, they're going to be in a permanent state of political mobilization. That's not true. We all know from history that revolutions are carried about by like 10% of people. And yet the masses all participate in a way, in a way, but at the end of the day, life needs to go on. Life needs to go on in a way that is

normal for people, a sense of normality, a sense of routine, a sense of rhythm, right? And that is, in a way that's not necessarily 24-7 going to be like directly fulfilling a political ideal. So that's what you call civil society. That's just the ordinary relationships people enter into on account of the merits of the very logic of their association, not necessarily their virtue signaling to an institution or their capacity to fulfill a political ideology. And you don't appreciate that distinction because you're an idealist and a fascist.

The fascists are the ones that believed in screaming at people 24-7. And he said, well, no, no, this is what Mao did with the cultural revolution.

Granted, that's a critique that Chinese people today have against the cultural revolution,

that in vain they attempted to, you know, totally replace civil society with ideology.

But there was more to the

culture revolution than that. There was also

a critique of a growing

bureaucracy and the critique

of a kind of, you know,

the recognition of the endurance of

class struggle under socialism.

So it's a mixed bag, obviously. Paragraph. of the endurance of class struggle under socialism.

So it's a mixed bag, obviously.

Paragraph here. You're just like fixated on all the bad things.

Page 25 is where it starts getting really bad.

The communist critique of private property allows for pro-people

policies, including lowering taxation, ending government subsidies for the monopolists,

and removing red tape to actually

happen because it places the interests of the people above the interests of money

and so-called private property. Communists want the people to have more things,

not less, or fewer, more wealth, more businesses, and more prosperity.

That's like the Jackson Hinkle quote that we played in the last video where he's on a conservative

talk show.

Go ahead and show how it's wrong, though. I guarantee you won't succeed.

We want people have more businesses.

What are you talking about?

If the people have more of these things, then, I think the productive forces accelerate faster,

how did this guy even get into law school?

I understand why you didn't make it through law school.

But anyway, I didn't make it through law school, really?

Technically, I can go back to law school whenever i want formally i only took a leave of absence and i did that because i should i even respond to this he's just a

fucking lying piece of shit again i just like beat the shit out of this guy if I ever saw him.

Because it's like, he didn't make it through law school.

You know how much I'm going to slap you in the face right now?

You know how much I'm going to destroy you

and you know you don't

this is the truth and you'll know it's true

right

not only did I finish

the hardest year of law school which is

1L

I did not attend 95 percent of classes i didn't even attend them i did

no readings i didn't even do any readings and i passed with flying colors for both semesters. But it gets better. For the entirety of

the second semester, I was streaming every single day for over four hours.

So I was streaming when I was in law school and I passed with flying

colors without even fucking attending classes or reading

the material.

Don't measure your cock with me,

you fucking bitch.

You have nothing on me in terms of law school this, law school that.

You have no intelligence.

You have nothing

compared to what I fucking pulled off. Nobody will even believe

what I pulled off with fucking law school. Everyone here is a witness to that fact, by the way.

You all were with me, my second semester of 1L

when I would bitch about it on stream

every day.

The OGs remember.

Leaching human prosperity and creativity to the point where things like

Wall Street, the city of London, and other enemies of the people will never

have the chance to take power again.

So again, one of the things that these Nazbales get criticized for is that it's like this

petty bourgeois approach that is basically capitalist in its orientation.

And this is just the same. Again, it's like the mass base.

No, you fucking idiot. It's just Leninism.

Lenin is the one who believed in tapping into the democratic petty bourgeoisie. Why? Because the monopoly bourgeoisie is institutionalized. It's essence within civil society. You're right. It's ever reproducing itself in the countryside. So politically speaking, Lenin tapped into this

petty bourgeois peasant element, the Democratic petty bourgeoisie, because it was an opportunity

to rip civil society from under the monopoly capitalist class that had, out of its

conceit, institutionalized itself from that premise and from that basis. By resetting capitalism,

all you're doing is facilitating the transition out of capitalism.

When you reset the capitalist system and do land reform and basically give people all the bourgeois rights again and remove the red tape and whatever, like I said.

What you're actually doing is referring to an institute, you're removing an institutionalized fetter on the mode of production.

And you're allowing socialism as it is developing from civil society itself, to breathe.

You're allowing it to actually take form from civil society.

So, when you reset capitalism, you know, get rid of the monopolies and get rid of the institutionalized capitalist class and its power, just like China did after Deng Xiaoping's reforms, you know, and you're just starting it from scratch, the same objective realities of civil.

Like, this is how people engage economically in association with each other when they're not compelled to politically or not forced to, like, this is how it is, you are allowing that itself to develop and thereby facilitate the transition into a new mode of production itself.

Because it's on the basis of the logic of that civil society and those economic relations.

It's on the basis of that that socialism arises in the first place.

But why doesn't it just happen?

Because there's fetters that are institutionalized through political dictatorship of monopoly capitalism, right?

So, and how do you topple the monopolies? You have to nationalize them. So that's already what Engels describes as the first steps of socialist, socialist production, right?

Some of the first steps that you have to take politically is like national...

Read the 10 planks of the Communist Manifesto, you fucking moron.

The case of fascism is the petty bourgeoisie,

because they dream, as we were just talking. Okay, but that was Trotsky's view, not

Dimitrov's view. Demitrov did not think

at all that the cause of fascism was the petty bourgeoisie. For him, it was the opposite.

It was the monopoly financial class. You're a fucking Trotskyite.

Talking about earlier in the dump work of a capitalism that's free of the class struggle, free of class

contradictions, and that the petty bourgeoisie can just have this merry existence.

They're actually kind of the center of all this. Anyway, the critique of private property doesn't mean taking property away from people.

That's super interesting because actually the communist manifesto stated that horseroy property is the highest form of private property.

And that communism could be summed up in a single phrase, the abolition of private property means...

Yeah, but private property today doesn't take the form of property that is tangible to actual

people, like their homes and their cars, their personal belongings, or even their tangible

businesses, you know, that they own in some kind of tangible human capacity the abstraction necessary to satisfy the criterion of what private property is in today's capitalism as mark saw it it's at a scale you couldn't even imagine. These are transnational financial institutions that are in no way relatable at an individual level at all. So no, it doesn't mean taking property away from people. The property that people have is not where private property is. Private property has

become institutionalized on a scale never before seen in history, in terms of the scale and

dimension by which it exists.

It's nothing that is tangible at an individual level.

Meaning worthwhile property.

So again, we're not talking about personal property.

This whole thing is communicated terribly to the extent that it even has any accurate message at all.

No, it's communicated what it's meant to communicate.

You're just a gatekeeping bitch who's trying to, like, put your glasses on and be like, oh, it's, no.

What I'm saying is palpable to people, and it's correct theoretically.

And I'll take you to the bank any fucking day to prove it if you ever grow the balls to actually challenge me in a debate, which

you'll never do.

Partique of private property doesn't mean taking away property from people.

What does it mean? Answer to the next sentence, it means using political power in a way that

serves the common interests of the people rather than the private interests of money.

That is literally true.

No, because social democracy has nothing to do with economic policy.

It has everything to do with the strategy you have in relation to state dictatorship, because there is a state dictatorship of either monopoly capital or the proletarian class.

And social democracy is not about overthrowing the dictatorship of a monopoly capital.

It's about embedding yourself within the system of imperialism in a specific way.

So no, it's not social democracy, you fucking midwit.

The decisive significance of social democracy has nothing to do with the extent of the radicalism of your economic policies.

It's about politics and dictatorship and revolution.

It's not about what you do when you actually take power.

Like, do you somehow fucking think that there could be like a social democratic revolution

or like a social democratic dictatorship where like the social democratic party actually

rules over everything and crushes under its feet the capitalist class but just like institutes

social democratic policies to create its own vision of society

that's tamer.

That's not fucking possible.

There's no such thing as creating

a society from scratch.

It's about a reference

to the concrete reality of power

here and now. Social

Democrats are conciliatory

submissive and

subservient to imperialism,

the one that actually tangibly exists, not a

hypothetical theoretical one.

And that's basically where this ends up. It's just in reformism because what's the next

sentence? The contractual forms of association between the people.

How is it, again, I had to

explain to this guy what reformism is

and isn't, and it's sad.

He's like grandstanding as if he's

like some grand theorist

of Marxism or socialism or whatever.

Turns out to be a fucking retard that doesn't know the basics.

Pure their rights of ownership will continue to exist far into the future and will only disappear

when they are rendered unnecessary by the productive forces when no institutional challenge to

their ownership will even exist. So that is an anti-revolutionary statement.

That is growing into socialism.

That's saying that...

Yeah.

Yeah, this is anti-revolutionary because it's totally talking about, the actual state we have right now

and like our relation to it

the actual like actual state dictatorship

that rules over us like yeah you're such a fucking retard dude

this is reformism it's like rules over us. Like, yeah, you're such a fucking retard, dude.

This is reformism.

It's like, you don't even know what you're talking about.

You know what this guy got his politics from? He probably got it from those like

political compass balls.

You know those political compass balls?

Like, I'm the social democracy ball.

I'm the socialism ball. And it's like,

it has all these descriptions that like describe

these like ideal versions of your vision of society

from scratch. And he's like, oh,

you're the social Democrat ball.

He's like, he's not even like

understanding what these terms refer to.

He thinks it refers to like economic policy

and not like the decisive

question of proletarian

dictatorship.

Capitalism can just keep going on and on and on.

And it will basically just wither away. Well, no.

Capitalism can go on and on and on

under a dictatorship of the proletariat,

and yes, it will wither away.

Yeah, that's not reformism. That's just Marxism, Leninism.

But by the time that Lenin is coming to power, capitalism had already withered away.

But capitalism going on and on and on without the fetters of monopoly and all these other retardants on the laws of history that's just socialism

like capitalism

literally transitions

into socialism

according to its own logic

it's just that this transition

is obstructed

through political dictatorship

through monopoly capital.

Do you guys understand what I'm saying?

I feel like it's so simple.

It has to be ended in a proletarian revolution.

But instead, Infrasel is saying that, well, he's couching it in contractual forms of association between the people.

But we're talking about private property here throughout the paragraph.

So how is that abolished?

Well, it will, quote, continue to exist far into the future, and it will only disappear.

No, contractual forms of association are actually not private property.

Again, you don't understand the terms you're using.

Private property is a specific institution of alienation.

Contractual forms of association between people can definitely be conducive to concrete,

social, and common goals.

The reason there's contractual association is just a concrete, social, and common goals.

The reason there's contractual association is just a matter of knowledge. Like, to what extent are these relations and their outcome known beforehand?

If you don't have the knowledge, then there has to be a contractual form of association,

where you define the limits of your association in some kind of way.

But just because you're defining the limits of your association contractually

doesn't mean that that association itself has to constitute

or be conducive to the creation or establishment of private property.

Like, the key word is the limit.

The limit doesn't have to be private in the sense that it's like fully unaccountable to society or somehow completely incongruous with the social logic of production.

When it, meaning by the property contractual form.

He doesn't know there their socialist forms of property.

He just doesn't understand these things because he's an idiot.

Which, again, contractual forms of association is such a bullshit, like, way of removing

yourself from what you're actually talking about.

But when they're...

Why? I feel like it's pretty concrete. I feel like it's like

forms of association

that are

A, not compelled

directly by political force

and B, where both

parties can define the limits of their association.

What is so bullshit about that?

You fucking retard.

Are rendered unnecessary by the productive forces

when no institutional challenge to their ownership will even exist.

Well, what's an institutional challenge to their ownership?

How about monopoly capital?

How about things like the Federal Reserve? How about state? How about state capture, right? How about like actual fucking bourgeois dictatorship that suppresses the productive forces

and gobbles it up

to serve the rentier

monopoly capitalists

those are all institutional

challenges

to the people's

people's ability to own things.

So what do you mean?

Capitalism itself is the institutional challenge.

Because capitalism alienates people

from the reality of production. Capitalism alienates people from the mode of production

and all of the things owned by human beings. If there's no alienation and there's no capitalism,

there's no challenge to the human ownership of the economic reality.

It is qualitatively owned by human beings.

That is not called into question in any kind of way.

But with alienation and with capitalism, it is called into question because the ownership acquires the abstraction, you know, like of the commodity form, and loses the quality of human concreteness and tangibility.

And so it just serves this never-ending process of profit for its own sake, you know, of money, beginning money for its own sake that's what it ends with mm prime without

mediation even by commodities this is a fictitious capital and that is the institutionalization of

the alienation Marx talks about.

Talking about capitalists trying to defend capitalism.

He's saying that basically capitalism will end just when the capitalists basically just walk away from capitalism.

That's not how it works.

That's ridiculous.

No.

Capitalism will end when a few things are accomplished one when the proletariat rests political

dictatorship away from the bourgeoisie and two on the basis of that facilitates the transition

to a new mode

of production through

removing fetters on that transition within civil

society, isolating

the tendencies and seeds within civil society.

I'll give you an example of this.

The Kolkoses were not actually designed in Moscow.

They weren't designed by the Bolsheviks.

The Kolkoses were actually a spontaneous tendency

that the Bolsheviks observed as one of the ways in which the peasants were responding to the land reform, the cooperative movement. It was a movement. And what the Bolsheviks did is they started looking toward that tendency and that movement and started encouraging it.

They started encouraging it.

And that encouragement is what led to the collectivization later on.

But the Colcoses were a great example of how from civil society itself, there were socialist forms of association that didn't... Marx also even talks about this in the case of Russia before, long before the revolution, with the Upshina or whatever, however you say it.

And that was a case where it was just there.

You just have to encourage it and allow it to flourish.

But you don't need to force it.

You know, you don't need to create it from scratch.

It's completely anti-Leninist, for one thing. Lennon was saying... No, it's not. According to the logic of

production itself, for example, socialism, even according to... Let's say you have China, right? Well, in China,

the socialization of, of, uh, enterprise is more lucrative than purely individual enterprise in most cases. And in this way, the logic of socialist production

acquires

supremacy over the capitalist kind, even according to the logic of the former

mode of production. This is what we're talking about.

For a hundred years ago, the conditions were already ripe for the proletariat to challenge

capitalists for power.

Yeah, but the, the proletariat waging the political class struggle is not immediately identical

with the immediate destruction of all the vestiges of capitalist society at the civil society level. That takes much longer.

So capitalism at the level of civil society will not fully be

eradicated all of its traces

in any like

foreseeable time frame

that you can imagine

100 years ago. Today

with AI, I mean maybe, I don't know.

But you know, like, that is not the same thing as the political class struggle.

Those are different things.

They're related, obviously, but they're not the same.

No, you just got to wait for the productive forces to render capitalism unnecessary.

No, you don't wait because you're in power and you're a communist.

See, this all comes down to China.

This guy doesn't believe China's socialist.

He doesn't believe China is ruled by a legitimate Communist Party.

So just fucking say that, you fucking coward and pussy, instead of trying to, like, deceive people and mislead them.

All we are are dengists, right?

But you're trying to make it seem like we're like fascists or something in a way that would not

be considered controversial by your own audience.

Go tell your own fucking audience

that all we are are Dengis

and see how many people disagree

with your hostility toward us.

You have to also lie and claim

or all these other things

as if there's no precedent

within Marxism at all for what

we believe in order to

discredit us and delegitimize us.

Then they'll just disappear on their own and the capitalists won't

even challenge you. This is just social democracy. And it sounds to me

like an extension of the Chinese idea of like we just have to keep building up the productive forces and just...

Yeah, but China isn't social democracy because it's ruled by a proletarian dictatorship.

Magically, you know, things happen on their own from there.

Again, this is just Bernsteinian-Kautzky and revisionism.

Again, I don't want to repeat myself, but it's like it's kind of outrageous how he confuses Bernstein and Kowdki's political reformism with, you know, Deng Xiaoping's, you know,

economic policy of socialist markets and stuff.

You peel away the bluster.

You peel away the ranting about leftists and breadtube and saying base every three seconds.

That's what you got.

So I'd like to close here.

That's what you got.

Well, I'll let you guys decide that for yourself.

Jay Summit, if you ever see this, make a video of this and upload it to youtube and uh yeah

yeah yeah all right guys i i i want i want you guys Yeah.

All right, guys.

I want you guys to... Why did I subject you to this?

Because I want you to understand the logic

when you're debating these people or arguing with them understand where

we're actually coming from and understand why you know um but yeah that was uh an hour of that.

See you guys.

See you, Tuesday.