DEBATE: IS LEFTISM CONTROLLED OPPOSITION?

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yeah

she riding on that dick that bitch put

that pussy in the cage I can't paint it

put that bitch on the camera

put that pussy in the cage

put that bitch on the ground now she

famous

gangsters

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later she ain't never been nowhere I'll

fuck for flying her out of state I got

rich but I ain't shit change I'm a rodeo

with that drink bitch take a trip to

Cali to the D fuck up the streets to go

get dressed and come with me I can't

wait for nigga to try me around this

bitch like this shit come drop you with

that chopping and go wash up in some

bleach pay 44 playing 30 motive make

this really nice you know how I go he

fucking act like we don't know them huh

I ain't friendly niggas

famous

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whole thing

I'd have made an average

got our guns in the club

shit every nigga that I came with nigga

lame ass niggas acting tough get your

chains now Niggas Ain't call nobody why

you cleaning I done been around the

blocks too I don't beat up niggas I shot

too I'm Thug like like pop too fuck

these bitches in my Ops

I killed niggas

bad bitch

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put that pussy in the cage

put that bitch on the gram now she

famous

put that pussy in the cage

put that bitch on the camera

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foreign

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whole thing

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put that bitch on the camera

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foreign

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famous

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whole thing

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got our guns in the club

every nigga that I came with nigga

lame ass niggas acting tough get your

chains now Niggas Ain't called nobody

why you cleaning I done been around the

block too I don't beat up niggas I shot

too I'm thug life

these bitches in my Ops

I kill niggas

bitch

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put that pussy in the cage I can't tame

it put that bitch on the ground now she

famous

put that pussy in the cage

put that bitch on the camera

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foreign

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famous

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famous

I'd have made an average

got our guns in the club we dangers game

shit every nigga that I came with nigga

lame ass niggas acting tough get your

chains now Niggas Ain't called nobody

why you cleaning I done been around the

blocks too I don't beat up niggas I shot

too I'm thug life like pop too fuck

these bitches in my Ops

I killed niggas

bad bitch

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put that pussy in the cage

put that bitch on the ground now she

famous

put that pussy in the cage

put that bitch on the camera

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foreign

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put that bitch on the camera

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famous

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famous

I'd have made an average

got our guns in the club

shit every nigga that I came with nigga

lame ass niggas acting tough get your

chance now Niggas Ain't called nobody

why you cleaning I done been around the

block too I don't beat up niggas I shot

too I'm thug life like pop too fuck

these bitches in my Ops

I killed niggas

bad bitch

riding on that dick that bitch put that

pussy in the cage

put that bitch on the ground now she

famous

had she riding on that dick that bitch

put that pussy in the cage

put that bitch on the camera

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foreign

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famous

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huh I'd have made an average

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put that

bitch on the camera

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please

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Diego

Rich Gangsta bad bitch has she riding on

that dick that bitch put that pussy in

the cage

put that bitch on the camera

put that pussy in the cage

put that bitch on the ground now she's

famous

I'm with my bitch right now but Imma hit

your bitch later she ain't never been

nowhere I fuck with flying her out of

state I got rich but I ain't shit change

I'm a rodeo with that drink bitch take a

trip to Cali

thank you so much

what the fuck is this low energy in the

fucking chat what the fuck is this low

energy in this fucking child

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bitch

damn what the fuck is up everybody what

the fuck is up as you can see I just got

a haircut

you know what I told him I told him this

time I said let's go short

I said he said you sure you want to do

that sir I said yeah let's go short and

I he said are you sure I said yeah

because you know I'm sick of having to

put so much time into my hair and all

this fucking bullshit

so we're going short we're going short

we're going to keep it short

uh for the foreseeable future until I go

to Turkey I get this shit figured out

and then I can have long hair normally

naturally I won't have to do this

Decepticon type of bullshit so you know

what I mean as I thought I said make it

short right

and then uh he cut my beard I said make

the beard shorter why am I saying this

shit because it's springtime I saw a new

I'm feeling myself into an entirely new

genre and character you understand

um trying to go about

a completely new pathway

for a great restart because you know I

was looking like a homeless man before

you know what I mean I was looking like

a homeless man but where the fuck is the

high energy in this chat I don't see any

sun gorillas in this chat

you know that I don't see any sun

gorillas in this chat and I think that's

a problem

I think that's a problem I don't see the

sun gorillas in the chat I don't see a

I don't see this I don't see the high

energy gorilla Army in this chat I'm

telling you we're gonna be taking it

back to Summer

2021 type of shit when I had the same

haircut summer 2021 That's The Vibes I'm

bringing this to I'm bringing us to that

level okay and everybody needs to

understand

everybody needs to understand

what the vibe is going forward you

understand what the vibe is going

forward you guys got to realize that

this is the new era

that we're entering into

you just got to realize the organization

is launching soon you guys gotta realize

something that Haze Aldean is an

afro-asiatic Mediterranean male

that means 99 of my haters are racist

99 of my haters it's racism

I'm an afro-asiatic male

75 African 25

according to tick tock I'm an

African-American male

do you understand

so now you understand just like they've

been trying to keep Africa down

for centuries they're trying to keep

Hazel Dean down

because I am an African black male

according to tick tock that's what Tick

Tock said

okay people need to understand the

atmosphere and the vibe in this room

people need to understand

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the atmosphere the vibe

and the circumstances

all right

people need to understand

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okay the debate is in 30 minutes it's at

8pm

but I'm starting to scream early so we

could check up on our itinerary

because there's a lot of bullshit we got

to get through

a lot of bullshit I got to be showing

you especially when it comes to

guess who our Ops

you know who our fucking oxide thank you

so much call me for Robbie appreciate

you man

afro-asiatic males on time I'm debating

some randoms on modern day debate don't

worry about it's give me 30 minutes

all of our Ops are teaming up

if you can believe it

all of our Ops are teaming up

give me a sec

give me that second

yeah I got something in my nose and I'm

digging for gold I'm digging for gold I

got something in my nose I'm digging for

gold

I'm digging for gold it's almost that

most of them it's almost died it's

almost off

wow that's a big one

wow that's a big one wow that's a big

one what's up Orville how you doing man

how you doing Orville so let me tell you

guys something okay let me tell you

something

I got shit in my nose okay and I gotta

get it out and I got it out and we're

done with that let's talk about our Ops

everybody knows who our Ops are did I

think call me for Robbie thank you so

much brother thank you so much for

Robbie

you guys know who our Ops are it's the D

program Hakeem Hugo pink second thought

JT a bunch of bitch made fake ass

motherfucking

red lib red liberals that's what we like

to call thank you so much Orville

appreciation afro-asiatic based male

the fake Marxist leniness the Luna soys

the hakims the Hugo pinks the compatible

ones the ones that are trying to dupe a

bunch of fucking stupid naive gullible

liberals into thinking that oh

my God thank you so much Destiny scratch

dealer

what they're trying to do they're trying

to convince all these stupid naive idiot

liberals that oh come into these

rainbows and sunshine oh it's so woke oh

it's so inclusive oh coming oh are you a

liberal that's what they're trying to do

so they're duping these idiot liberal

redditors into thinking that uh Stalin

would have been friendly with them

and who is haze Aldine and by contrast

Haze Aldine is a guy who has a fucking

sword on his wall I'm the fucking guy

that's got a vicious tiger I got a

dragon

I don't lie to you when I tell you

communism is some brutal stuff I'm not

here to fucking lie to you to your face

and tell you oh

no it's not it's a struggle it's a fight

of the working class destroying the

fucking ruling class ruthlessly it's an

army of the working people rising up and

destroying the status quo that's what

I'm telling you I'm telling you it's a

dictatorship of the proletariat ruthless

type of shit a dictatorship of the

proletariat I'm telling you it's a class

war it's war and I am your commander

but there are a bunch of liars and they

go oh yeah

yeah awesome chungus

and I'm here to tell you what most

people know by instinct no it ain't

communism

some real shit

historically it's some real shit you

don't you're nobody's fucking around in

the sun sun sun sun sun sun

sunflowers and daisies that's not what

it's about

that's not what it's about it's about

war

it's about sacrifice

it's a very serious thing I know I'm a

joker

I know I'm a joker

I know I'm a joker

I know I'm a joker

but it's a very serious thing

and it's not for the week

and guess who said that guess who said

ad verbatim it's for men not not little

bitch ass boys for men

Rosa Luxembourg when she was talking to

Bernstein she said this shit is for men

this shit is hard

can't beat a little bitch made glasses

wearing Edward Bernstein type of Hakeem

type of JT oh hey guys it's me second

thought I'm JT Tech you can't be no you

go pink

you know

so why am I telling you about this

because guess what's happening I'm

telling you guys what's going on

remember when I called out Hassan hasoi

pecker and Hassan was talking all this

shit

saying oh yeah

those infrared guys are like not even

real Marxist leninis remember he was

saying that dumb shit

well let me tell you what

remember when I speculated that he's

been watching Hakeem and listening to

the D program and that's why he's saying

that shit

well it turns out to be true Hassan went

on the D program podcast I shit you not

he went on there and now that he's

reacting to JT Chapman's second thoughts

videos on stream meaning Hassan and the

D programmer entering into an alliance

and we all called it we all called it we

said the next big thing is going to be

the red lips the AOC DSA Jibber jabber's

over the next big thing is it's going to

be the tropical

socialista

socialista Cuba type of red lips right

that's going to be the next fucking

thing instead of the Brooklyn DSA AOC

it's uh you know Chapo hipsters it's

gonna be oh Cuba socialista Cuba

feminista socialista Cuba spicy

socialista spicy socialista spices

that's gonna be the next thing right

we said that we said that's going to be

the next big thing it's going to be the

spicy Sausalito oh Vietnam with Luna oil

it's a spicy socialista

that's what we said it would be

and that's what it is uh Hassan is

openly allying with them he's reacting

to their videos and that's gonna be a

huge convergence and I'm interested to

see what's gonna happen see as an

outside spectator who just sits here and

watches my enemies destroy themselves

because of their stupidity and

competence and lack of grasp of advanced

dialectical materialists

Theory

I'm quite curious to see what's going to

come of this little Alliance see don't

get it twisted

don't get it twisted

don't ever get it confused

okay

don't ever get it confused

I am the main super villain

of Internet politics or at least on the

left side of things I'm the

motherfucking super villain here

you want to know what that means I'm

going to tell you what it means ladies

and gentlemen

let me tell you what it means

I was the Bernie bro

that was me

I was the Bernie bro

oh the tanky

that was me I was the tanky

that tanky was me

oh the pat sock

that was me too

and now everyone knows that I'm the Maga

communist but

I was here

pleased to meet you let me let me uh

let me let me sing it to you actually

I'm gonna sing it to you please allow me

to introduce myself I'm a man of wealth

and taste I've been around for long long

years

stole a million man's liberals

and faith I was round when the Bernie

Bros were being complained about by the

feminists

I was around stuck around thank you Bill

riding my motherfucking tank

I have always been the toxic element of

the left it's me

that virus culminates in house Aldean

and that is me

all I want is to get recognition I have

always been the toxic element it's

always been me

the toxic masculine problematic element

on the left that is me

I am the Incarnation of say lafzar I am

The Reincarnation of every single bad

toxic thing on the left

ever

I am a stalinist that is me that is what

I am I am the maoist I am all those

things

and this is what people fail to

understand

all of these tankies are being and this

is what I'm trying to tell you

tankies

Hakeem Hugo pink and second thought

they're all going mainstream

because I took the fire

see before everyone was a tanky but now

that's okay you can be a tanky as long

as you're not a Maga communist

oh you can be a socialist that's fine as

long as you're not one of those tankies

oh oh you can be a tanky

as long as you're not one of those Maga

communists

do you guys understand the uh

the pattern here

it's like the only real distinction

is between the infrared type and the

rest that's the only real distinction

doesn't matter if you're a tanky you're

a Bernie bro you're a socialist

these things all influence a new primary

contradictions I am the infrared is the

primary contradiction or me and Jackson

whatever you want to call it

do you understand what I mean by this

they all are the same now what is the

difference between Hakeem

Hassan AOC there's no difference one may

call themselves ml one may call

themselves Democratic socialists but

they all unite and rally together under

the banner of the mainstream compatible

left

Maga Communists took the Heat

and now all of these red libs are

comparatively acceptable to the Liberals

see the Liberals never had a problem

with tankies they had a problem with

Maga Communists and it took me to draw

that line we were the thing that made

tankies

detestable to liberals

you think liberals have a problem with

Hakeem no they don't liberals have a

problem with Haas Aldi and the reason

they used to have a problem with Hakeem

is because he got lumped in in the same

category as me

so understand what I'm trying to tell

you right now this is the problematic

category of left-wing politics it's

right here

the thing that will never be made

compatible with the mainstream

is that infrared Globe right here this

will never be compatible with the

mainstream in any any

capacity

yeah the the fake MLS that'll become

compatible sure oh yeah

uh the USSR wasn't totally bad yeah

liberals can come around all that stuff

but they can't ever come around to this

AOC will never do it among us stream

with this no matter how big I get in

terms of clout as a matter of fact

if I got the same engagement that Hassan

did in the same audience

they would put me in jail like they did

Andrew Tate I'd be considered the most

dangerous person on the fucking planet

there's a reason for that

that's what she did

Nadia put a shamrock shake

in my protein

she's trying to make me gain weight

that's a cons

see I've been having insomnia so

you know

uh

last night

I got a lot of gross disgusting food

from McDonald's and I regretted it and I

repented for it and Nadia's taking me

back down the path of sin

I'm recovering I was trying to recover

okay

I was trying to recover

she's fattening me up

finally nailed down the source of that

taste

but uh let me show you an example of

this in case you don't know what I'm

talking about

because I actually did a post in

response

and I'm gonna show it to you

so this is has soy pecker this is a soy

pecker in the flesh and I'm going to

show this to you

you go pink shared this because he's

trying to make

now what in the world is this what in

the world is this and what did I do to

deserve this

okay

what in the world is this

check this out okay well this is the

problem okay this is an unforeseen

problem it's a problem that's not my

fault

uh at all

but I don't know what to do

I'm just kind of baffled a little bit

okay

and then we take it here

right

and then we can just do that

and then take it here

okay

okay

and then

here

and then here

all right

I'm fixing it

there it's fixed

see

I fix problems I don't cause them I fix

them see

now we can

let me read you some details off the

list of these yes so this is this is the

JT Chapman that's what we call them

know the zero thought otherwise known as

uh JT shatman

I want to repeat that because not a lot

of you guys know who this guy is this is

uh zero thought AKA JT shatman

uh there's no difference from what I

just said and his real name that's

actually what it is the so zero thought

JT shatman let it catch on like wildfire

these bills thoughts on this guy being a

tanky I I hope he fucking drives a tank

to your house okay

that's my thoughts on this guy being a

tanky take a fucking week off and think

about how stupid you are as a human

being

totally radicalized now now that AOC

doesn't want to play Among Us with him

anymore he's totally genuinely sincerely

radicalized oh my God totally not an

opportunist

thank you

tankies are not

revolutionary anymore

only Mecca tankies are do you guys

understand this shit

you guys understand the path of

opportunism that's what this is

I'll hassans being radicalized right now

has what's wrong with that because his

position hasn't changed

the words he's using is changing the way

he's the communities he's virtues

virtual signaling to is changing the

terminology he's using is changing but

his fundamental position remains

unaltered and he's just switching the

words and associations to create the

same position

and it's like we're trying they're

trying to Gaslight us oh Hassan's a

tanky now no he's not it's just that the

real tankies aka the Maga Communists and

all the fucking people you call fascists

have distinguished themselves from

Hakeem and you go pink and now all of a

sudden everyone can see

nobody's confusing Hakeem Hugo pink and

the D program crowd for being Marxist

leninist anymore like oh those are just

liberals just like us those are just

Democrats just like us we are the reason

why they are able to separate

how the deprogram people from us we drew

that fucking line with Maga communism

because we're not just tankies we're

also the mecca tankies or we're also the

pat socks or we're also the Maga

Communists we're the ones who created

that distinction and that made them look

better in the eyes of the fucking

Democrat liberals it's not that the

Democrats and Liberals are becoming

Communists or Marxist lead in this

it's that all the opportunists are

joining forces against us

see the difference

in Arkansas all right

we still have like two minutes let me

read you some details off the list of

these bills thoughts on this guy being a

tanky I

here's what I said

you can thank me for making you red

liberals finally except a little

Democrats like a song

all that he was taken off you because of

Maga communism now no one will make the

mistake of confusing our position with

being revolutionary next you'll hang out

with AOC

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facts isn't it

it's facts

let me tell you guys something the world

is unjust it's an unjust fucking place

it's an unjust place

we each we move you over to window but

get no credit for it

by the way that was my doing

you go pink

you would have been just another toxic

tanky if it wasn't for me

taking the Heat

I did this by the way

this is all me

we are always at the avant's guard of

the Revolutionary position

and then you know it's like it's like

what Lenin said

revolutionaries are hated when they're

living and then when they die all of a

sudden they're okay

see let me tell you guys something

and I regret to inform you that

depending on your perspective it's bad

news or good news

one day

hazaldine will die

very true

and one day

someone will come

and

forward and even more revolutionary

position than I

and take this whole thing to the next

step

one day

give me a moment

okay

and then in 2072

someone will come and adopt a position

even more revolutionary than mine

let me tell you what's gonna happen

hakeem's grandkids

are going to be repping hazaldine

paraphernalia and they're going to be

repping the infrared glove oh hazaldine

was great

that was a true revolutionary

and they'll be fighting against my

successor

hazaldine will be great and

revolutionary After I'm Gone

only when my position is no longer the

most revolutionary one

will it be adopted by the mainstream

and then it's going to be used against

the most revolutionary position of the

time they're gonna use my likeness

they're going to use my face they're

going to use my talking points they're

going to use things from my fucking

writings

to attack

the Revolutionary of their time

that's what hakeem's grandkid is gonna

do

and I want to tell that generation

listen that bastard Hakeem when I was

fucking living was my enemy

so don't fucking trust a word that comes

out of his fucking grandkid's mouth I

want to do something Lenin wasn't able

to because they use Lenin's likeness for

the same fucking reason

say when I was alive these people were

my biggest fucking enemies

don't trust a fucking word that comes

out of their mouth they're opportunists

they only become Marxist latinus

when it's no longer the most

revolutionary thing

thank you so much the king not a

revolutionary by any means but we are

seeing this with liberals and how they

now love George Bush yeah yeah there's a

there's a there's a reverse form of this

definitely

okay guys I have to join modern day

debate right now

because the debate is starting fuck's

sake I'm getting all these fucking

messages shit

I can't fucking believe this shit man

people fucking blow up my fucking phone

all the goddamn time

give me a second

okay I'm joining modern day debate right

now

and then uh we gotta get this passcode

and we're gonna join the zoom meeting

all right

hello infrared

hello are you good thanks I appreciate

you being here it's those damn leftists

that are late

yeah or I should say

walkster left us

it's people are very excited to see you

guys on a team tonight I hope you know

that like I'm not joking I don't know if

I've ever had seen so many people say

that in the chat that they were excited

to see two people team up there were at

least like maybe like 10 in the chat

saying that in the last 24 hours

so wow

they're flattered

yes are you guys debated last time if I

remember right is cordial infrared I

wasn't there for your last one with

with Ben Burgess

Ben pretty much wanted to murder me

after that debate I'm not exaggerating I

was really glad Ben didn't know where I

lived oh I'm sorry about that he was

irate okay so I don't know how bad it

went but whatever happened I can tell

you Ben was like I don't think it was

that bad I think he's

just being a bit silly

but I hope uh yeah this will be fun

let's see I think we could just got

Ashley was it Ashley or oh you got Ryan

okay Ashley ain't no got the link so

whatever it is I it might be and I want

to be easier especially because it's

sometimes the people of young kids that

they're trying to put to bed and uh I

know at least from my friends because I

don't have kids but I know that it can

be challenging so I don't want to be too

hard on

um I think Ashley's probably putting the

kids she's in the Eastern time zone so

Ryan good to have you good to be here

James thanks for having me again my

pleasure we're glad you're here it's

going to be tremendous

and I am going to just quick oh yeah

yeah

good to see you Haws and nice to meet

you JF hello

now I get so hot when I wear Formal Wear

you're always hot James I appreciate

that Ryan and I I thought like what do I

do

so I cut like all the lining out from

this Blazer and it helps uh but I also

cut like this dress shirt I cut the

sleeves off so it's like a it looks like

a workout vest or something and then I

cut the back out because I don't my back

is hot I don't want to backwards Mr

Krabs has entered the building you know

and I want to dress well thank you so

much what's that fellow's name

he's got the huge podcast where he just

interviews people not Joe Rogan who

Friedman Lex Friedman Friedman that's it

yeah well-dressed guy yeah for sure yeah

always the same suit all the time

I'll see

it's probably like I said

it's probably that she's putting the

kids together so I'm not gonna be pissed

at Ashley I would have been pissed at

you Ryan but

but Ryan you know I think all the time

because you told me once you said James

you know I'd be open to a debate or a

discourse and whether or not modern day

debate is truly neutral and I said Ryan

I'm too open to the possibility that we

might actually you know

be not neutral to where I'm like you got

to give me the juice you got to tell me

you know like what is it

think that is it because we always put

like it's always the left the wokesters

like yourself on trial like tonight the

topic is has the left gone too far it is

the yeah I guess I imagine a more

neutral topic might have been like has

has the left or the right gone too far

you know but I mean it's it's not

um the framing of a lot of the questions

is part of it I I would say like some

evidence would be the

um kind of uh and you do have a a pretty

diverse audience but but I will say the

chat definitely seems to have a uh lean

in One Direction most of the time

um but uh and I think I think also like

a lot of that can a lot of it's just a

consequence of uh the topics that we're

debating being uh in the way that

they're framed in political discourse

but I am sure we'll we'll touch on a lot

of that in this conversation so I get

what you mean and it is true that a lot

of debates

that's true although man so much of it

depends on does look too crooked can you

tell that this is not a pocket over here

that's I was just about to say something

I was going to complain that's not a

pocket

I'm just I'm fucking with these games

you okay you couldn't tell because no I

I didn't even notice it it's covered by

the microphone most of the time like

your face yeah it's exactly it looks

like the modern version I was hoping it

looks like well positioned

you know that they yeah give a

handkerchief yeah that's what I was

hoping I mean what it is is when I was

cutting the liner out that's just to

just cut I actually made it was a

mistake so that's actually my undershirt

yeah that's all right if people think

you know as long as they don't know that

I figured I was like you know because I

threw it in the trash I was like I don't

think the camera is clear enough to be

that obvious I just won't wear it in

person

but yeah yeah

oh yeah yeah okay the audience yeah you

know it depends though Ryan because if

we have you know we have vosh or Steven

then it's you know left leaning pretty

much well they bring I think they part

of that's because they bring a lot of

people you know like I'm not bringing

any like there's like probably a handful

of people like I have like 300 Subs on

YouTube I'm like I'm nobody except for

my debate with Destiny

but I think you're right and uh JF had

said this many many months ago was

probably I don't know a year or two ago

JF said

debate channels inevitably become more

right-leaning because if you host the

right leaning or I would say I could get

you know I

I don't know some I you know that there

are some far left people that say like

conservative equals fascists you know

and I don't want to paint with broad

brush Strokes so it's only a small

percent but there are you know there are

some that even if I host the most

vanilla

of conservative they just bail and they

don't like the channel and that's like

the really far

left

let me just see if Ashley's she's for

sure

time zone is uh same time yeah she's

Eastern

she said

it says signing in now okay good it was

five minutes ago so just trying to sign

she just texted me trying to sign in

stand by OMG

with a lot of ease OMG so she's

definitely trying

okay

uh

oh hello

hello Ashley so kind of you to grace us

in your presence

be more I'm just gonna sign in with the

phone code I am so sorry about that

you might want to update your name on

here because I think it's your phone

number and so if that you want that to

show on the on the Stream

um I can't edit that uh I have no

options to edit anything

sorry guys like I'm so sorry this is

weird I don't know I'm I would like to

solve this problem because I hate being

a snob but I really believe that the

difference between the bush League

channels on YouTube that have like 30

000 that have three thousand you know

Subs

and bigger ones is that you you say hey

come on it's this isn't talk radio

Ashley we need a camera on so I know

let's see if we can find this I haven't

used Zoom since our last mine in your

like the last debate I did on yours so I

I didn't even realize this would be an

issue you know and I've been messing

with it for like the last 10 15 minutes

and I don't know why it won't

it won't why is everyone freaking out

I'm pretty sure this is

what's in there is there I'm just in a

zoo so do you see the options

oh did they talk I was I was literally

doing some other thing I feel bad right

now yo mods let me know what's going on

what did they say I think that it

wouldn't work because I've done this on

my phone uh sorry guys hold on um

I've been live this whole time

yeah I know is that is that all right or

yeah that's no problem

okay yeah I don't think we say my

House's audience a little embarrassing

for Ben Burgess but

he's

just wanted to because I don't I don't

know I don't want to like so

no problem

yeah it was oh so like the whole thing's

on screen

if you tell uh if you discourage your

audience from harassing Ashley yeah

please well that's great

oh yeah well

don't worry uh Ashley's brought this on

herself and nobody feels sorry for her

so movie all right calls Ashley but I

already got a text

text message it's fine

sure

we'll get you guys uh out of here on

time too because sometimes our debates

go long but I'm gonna make my goal is an

hour and a half and even maybe even less

than that because uh

all right guys don't

let's be be clear about something

uh looking at or whatever

but uh

don't uh nobody from my community should

ever be doing any like

you know

harassing anybody nothing like that okay

so just want to be clear about that like

don't fucking um

No Nonsense all right I'm not even

kidding if I find out anybody's doing

any of that shit you are a Perma band

forever no right to appeal at all

his audience can't hear us I don't think

they can now but I think it's like a

numbers game like he's got he's got a

lot of people watching so it's gonna be

there's gonna be people who are gonna

like who are gonna put like do cringe

shit like that yeah I know that like

cause doesn't like endorse stuff like

that so

right yeah

yeah it is what it is

let's see

what we'll do is given that yes is JF

and infrared we'll have you guys start

and then what we'll also do is so

that'll be the same as always who wants

to go first between the two of you infra

and JF

what do you like

I I have no preference personally so I

yeah me neither I can go first if you

want cool we'll have JF go first and

then JF you can hand it over to infrared

and that's maybe about 10 minutes per

team so if you take about five minutes

and if you want to take less you can as

well as once you're done infrared I'll

kick it over to Ashley and radical coder

we'll have radical coder go first and

then what we'll also do is I would love

for this conversation it'll be easier

for Ashley because originally when I

pitched it to Ashley it was is feminism

betraying women and you might you know

infrared and JF like if if you are up

for talking about that at all maybe for

the first half

uh don't feel obligated but maybe if you

just threw in something like here's one

way that could fit within is is the left

gone too far so like is the left going

too far or I should say

is feminism hurting women if you maybe

say some of the arguments I hear on the

channel at least I'm not saying these

are my arguments that

women are less happy since the feminist

movement in the 1960s According to some

empirical papers or maybe

even talking about you know feminism has

hurt women in the sense that like who

wants to work you know like all the time

and like feminism's all like women like

work it's so great like I'd be fine

without a job but anyway I mean you're

whatever you guys want but I just wanna

I will bring an argument in that slime

cool yeah I could probably do that too

yeah all right I'll come back guys deal

all right doing that and then yeah like

like I said that could even be like 20

minutes and then I think Ryan is

prepared and excited to defend even the

most woke of woke positions uh yeah

we'll see yeah I certainly have a lot to

say yeah I um

but yeah right and they love you you get

a pop from the audience oh yeah yeah

that's always been I I've uh

historically I've kind of been in uh

more right-wing spaces just because it's

uh it's fun to get the I don't know like

there's not a lot Progressive to go into

those fears and actually talk to people

um for good reason a lot of times but

you know is what it is I think you guys

are you're right that you're rare and

it's also refreshing that someone who

they consider as having you know extreme

views like the woke stuff or likewise I

think like Daniel is a Muslim who is a

con you could say traditional Muslim and

people love when people take these views

whether it be woke

or traditional Islam and they dig their

heels in and they say no like I'm

defending it and they don't you know get

soft like everybody's tempted to be like

well I'm not quite that extreme and you

and Brenton you just you always get

that's jf's old buddy they've had a lot

of time I've watched you guys talk a few

times

I've been aware of you for a long time

JF I remember when you were talking to

Destiny back in the day oh yeah

so yeah so that's right that's uh

but yeah it's good to be polarizing

people like that it's an attractive

thing yeah it's refreshing when someone

just like I said you dig your heels in

and you fight your way out and you know

it's like

it's not soft or like

I like to like walk into a Discord call

and then like I'm like yeah feminism's

based and there's like eight people

screaming at me like you know and

they're like stop stop I want to ask him

a question oh it's fun

oh yeah I didn't I was I was trying to

talk to Ashley earlier I didn't hear

from her for a lot of the day and I I

was uh I was worried that I was gonna

have to 1v2 you guys but I was also a

little excited for it so it was kind of

funny

but I'm glad she's gonna hopefully

hopefully she gets comes right back

otherwise I I might be doing that anyway

it is yes

what I can say in the meantime

we might as well make good use of the

time

in terms of any juicy topics you guys

want to talk about anything extra

controversial

foreign

oh yeah that's that too potentially yeah

hmm

Oh you mean talk now

you want us to get into hot debates uh

offline

anything that anything that can get

infrared in trouble since he's streaming

already what do you guys think about

circumcision

uh

I think absolute parental right so I

don't mind if a parent does it I don't

want to intervene with the parental

Liberty of doing it but I think it's

useless I think

it's yeah my understanding is it's not

that useful but like I don't know it's

it like looks better I guess for like

for me like I'd rather I like the way it

looks but uh you know like I'm not gonna

I don't know if that's like enough you

know that's kind of a weird uh like uh

but like in terms of the like like JF is

saying the absolute uh I I don't know if

I'd agree with that because like I mean

I I definitely wouldn't support light

like female genital mutilation is so

much worse

um and and uh like it causes so like so

many like it's just so many more

problems

um and and it's uh and that's I I think

that should definitely be like illegal I

don't know if like regular if like a

circumcising a dick should be illegal

but I don't know

hmm

Haz uh what do you think

foreign

people

bring it up because it's one of those

few things

where people could be like oh this is an

example of our liberties being infringed

on on a private personal level

and there's usually so few of those

um

like you know I mean America is a pretty

tolerant country of whatever as long as

you're an adult so I

is interesting because

um

I don't know if this is com

no it's not comparable because I was

gonna say like I usually kind of hear

criticisms of it coming from the left

aisle

uh but then those are also the same

people who defend

a lot of like the uh

transitioning stuff but I think their

argument is like oh it's what the kid

wants whereas circumcision like there's

no way to know

if anyone will want that but then yeah I

don't know

that's pretty pretty interesting Ashley

just rejoined

all right

potentially

oh that guy I see iPhone

okay we finally see you

good to see you Ashley

hi I'm so sorry about that that was

crazy

I've never had that issue before I don't

know the last time I'd used Zoom was

last time I was here so it's been a

while

no problem

what we're gonna do is I'm gonna start

the stream a minute about 60 seconds

once I have everything sorted out with

zoom we'll be rocking and rolling so

okay

I'm good

so sorry guys good we have an

enlightening talk about circumcision

while you were waiting while I'm sorting

out the pictures and zoom or uh forgive

me guys well in OBS I have to wait until

all four people are in before I can

start rearranging the pictures so while

I do that

as I mentioned we'll have

JF and infra go first with JF in

particular going first then we'll have

Ryan leading on the side of the far left

team and will also

two seconds just

I've received like 16 phone calls and

about

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um

but don't worry it's all right it

happens although we gotta figure out

what's going on because before we ever

try this again we've got to figure out

what you've been going on those websites

I told you I figured it out I figured it

out

but yeah let's see

we were talking about circumcision and

in terms of like for those of you who

are kind of indifferent about

circumcision and presumably you're okay

with

um

or I should say you're yeah you're okay

with circumcision but you're probably

not okay with

female genital mutilation in the East or

I should say Middle East maybe anywhere

ideally you know what's the you know

like what's your standard for saying

like it's okay in one case to

surgically change the genitals of money

attacks versus another I mean it's

almost like the point of female genital

mutilation is to stop them from being

able to enjoy sex entirely so they

remove the clitoris so that a female

cannot have an orgasm that would be a

the main difference I would I would say

yeah body circumcision has never

prevented me from having any orgasms

right my deference is that a surgery

must be done by a doctor and the doctor

a doctor will not consent to be

performing at least say a western doctor

would not consent to performing genital

mutilation but they would to a

circumcision that's true true I see okay

that's helpful

almost set bear with me

I'm the one that derailed

this is a always a pain though that but

I love obs

the reason being is so versatile do you

you guys all use OBS I use stream Labs

Ashley doesn't she's a stream yard

yeah

as I'm sure you use it

no yes

oh yeah okay that's cool it's got some

nice add-ons I just always it crashed on

me so many times

Have You Ever Had It crash

no

I haven't before but my computer is kind

of weird sometimes so

okay that's weird because yeah I've had

it crash

many times otherwise I loved it I was

like

bummed when I had to give it up because

James just FYI for a future if you ever

have a guest have an issue so there's um

what I think the workaround I figured

out so basically I got a new phone but

um my since it's the same Apple ID my

old phone was trying to just instead of

completely downloading the Zoom app it

wanted to just you know how you have the

option to like re-download it you can

tell that you've had it before so it

kept trying to do that and it was it was

saying my credentials weren't correct

and it wouldn't let me change them in

any way shape or form so there's two I

mean I didn't know this because I don't

use zoom really like even at work we use

Microsoft teams so there's two Zoom

download options and one is like Zoom

guests

and so a person can go in if they

haven't already downloaded either the

like the Zoom itself where you create

your account but you can download a zoom

guest and then join any kind of Zoom

meeting that way so if this ever happens

again maybe like I don't know that could

be their problem as well as soon as I

did that I was good to go

yeah that's good to know there's another

thing about stream Labs is they actually

uh banned me which is crazy

the same time I got banned from twitch

stream Labs like banned anyone's ability

to donate and I can't use their mobile

uh that's their mobile one yeah that

sucks platform shit like that that's

wild yeah and stream elements too if you

could believe it so you can stream yard

to that to you no no stream labs and

then stream elements and I could still

stream from stream Labs but I can't uh

it's pretty crazy so what I'm going to

do is I'm going to go on screen and I'm

gonna say hey everybody today we're

debating has the left gone too far and

we're starting right now and then I'm

going to say with JF and infra's opening

statement thanks so much for being with

you know and then Jay up the floor is

all yours all right cool here I go three

two one glad you guys are here and here

I go

hey everybody tonight we're debating

whether or not the left has gone too far

and we are starting right now with the

yes side in particular JF thanks for

being with us the floor is all yours all

right it's a pleasure to be here since

it was long during the uh preparation of

the debate we spent time talking about

circumcision that was pretty fun and I

think James for kicking uh the female

member of this debate out so that we

could do so in a in a private metal

space where I felt comfortable to talk

about My Views has the left gone too far

absolutely it has gone too far the

question is not so much whether it has

gone too far is when exactly did it

start going too far in my view somewhere

around the 19th century uh here's uh

someone having left having lived in a

leftist city a man named Nat Friedman on

Twitter he says we moved out of San

Francisco to Menlo Park a year ago after

two meth addicts broke into our house

while we were home and robbed us they

are both free now the police who

arrested them and were later forced to

release them by the D.A said these

criminals were frequent flyers we didn't

want to leave San Francisco we love it

there but we have a young kid and it

seemed irresponsible to stay in a place

where drug addicts commit home invasions

to the point where they are called

frequent flyers retweeted and replied to

by Elon Musk today the left as a problem

of contact with reality the great

failure of the left is that it is based

on a lie this lie is this obfuscation of

the fact of human evolution human

difference human inequality and the

problem is that the left wants to not

address how we could really make the

world more equals but they want to

deceive themselves into a world that is

impossible to reach a racial gender

Utopia filled with lies unsustainable

they don't have a solution where they

would accomplish both their political

project and also make it sustainable

their projects are not sustainable

because they keep farming worse human

beings into our societies it is quite

simple if you're a farmer and you select

the pigs that are the less fat in your

pigs or cows or chicken if you stick the

animals that are the less fat you will

end up with smaller animals you will end

up with less meat we understood this as

Farmers for hundreds of years yet when

it comes to Human Society leftists

refused to face the reality of evolution

the reality of you can't operate a

society that has built in

evolutionary structures eugenic

structures that reward lack of

accomplishment that reward poverty that

reward criminality

uh and the case that I've read from net

Freeman someone fleeing San Francisco is

not rare at all it is so common that it

is now statistically detectable a title

on The Daily Mail here woke Exodus

California and New York have each lost

more than half a million residents since

April 2020 as people flee due to surging

home prices and out of control crime so

the proof that leftism is failing has

gone too far is that people are choosing

away from leftism of course they may not

know that they're fleeing leftism they

think they are fleeing taxes they think

they're freeing crimes they think

they're fleeing covid-19 tickets but the

reality is those are symptoms of leftist

cities and how they Implement their

political project we see a crime rise uh

from starting somewhere around 2015 uh

this crime Rises more mostly underlined

by an effect in the city so since 2015

and crime had been going down and down

for decades but since 2015 the trend has

been reversed and this trend is this

trend has been reversed because uh we we

are faced with people going soft on

crime because we don't put people in

jail anymore the entire system of

leftism is also based on an economic lie

the LIE of the money supply the lie that

is operated by the fed the fact that if

I look at a graph

between 1980 and 2015 what do we see

growing and growing ever growing money

supply so why do leftists need money

supply because if if you have a money

supply expansion you control an economy

you can't you you devalue the value of

the conservatives who are said who are

natural savers of money who are

naturally economically sound and you end

up injecting money in the system through

your own ways which ends up employing a

bunch of useless workers and big Tech in

California and in other systems that

benefit from this constant rise uh which

can be easily drained by the private

sector by by simply selling uh selling

stocks so that they can drain these

flows of monies toward them that's how

they acquire control of a place they end

up employing large amounts of Workforce

that are absolutely useless Elon Musk

has proven that with Twitter you you can

basically fire 70 to 80 percent of

people in current big Tech and you have

zero effect that is negative on your

company

uh leftism as went too far with schools

with the Assumption the false Assumption

of leftist and Marxist to that everyone

is fixable that everyone can be helped

if they're just given the chance uh

education outcomes in Chicago's lowest

performing Public Schools uh only 25

percent of students in Chicago's lowest

performing elementary schools met state

standard only five percent of students

in Chicago's lowest performing high

schools met state standard we are

sending 100 people to that school these

were schools 95 percent of them 95 out

of a hundred will end up not meeting

State Standards so we're we're hosting

schools where people don't learn that is

the great lie of leftism we're going to

make it look like we're trying to fix it

we don't know how to fix it there's no

way to fix it that's what the leftists

don't want to here there is simply no

way to fix certain human beings on Earth

and you better build a world around them

and run or they will come at you and

they will make your life impossible to

live

we've had a recent uh a recent case of

trans extremism another illustration of

leftism gone too far trans Tennessee and

space backlash after school shootings

that's a title at Reuters of course

evidently the the shooter that has been

uh that has been shooting people

uh we don't get to see their Manifesto

and yet whenever someone from the right

wing does a shooting we we get full

publicity around the manifesto why is

that because the left is in power don't

want you to know that some people died

recently because they were targeted by a

trans extremist ideological shooter who

wanted to kill Christians absolutely

horrible and the lie that they put on

top of it is to hide you from these

facts uh Jan miles chunks on Twitter

yesterday California school board votes

to hop out so-called parental secrecy

policy for transgender students here's

another point of failure of the

BT activism and rolled them into a

cylinder add a filter to them and smoke

them you would have to label this

ideology as one of the most destructive

ideology possible it comes with probably

bigger consequences than becoming a

tobacco smoker and yet it's an ideology

that circulates freely in our school

destroys the life of our children and

they are setting the legal system up so

that you as a parent can never get to

know two more points of failure before

we move to us very quick censorship look

at my Impressions this is my Impressions

on my Twitter account

between 2016 and 2023. look at what the

leftists have done here they've deprived

millions of people from hearing my view

as a scientist from hearing the facts I

bring and that's the authoritarius

authoritarianism of leftists gone too

far and finally in case you wonder

whether this is all good for women let's

talk about woman

conservatism is the best thing you can

do to a woman to lower or depressive

scores to the lowest whereas emperoring

her with liberalism and here we see the

evolution from 2005 to 2018

the the females with the most depressive

affect are female liberals the line in

blue here whereas the females who are

the most happy are the line in red the

female conservatives so it's not even

helping females so why are we going on

with this slide that leftism is as I'm

giving it to you

ready infrared

nobody was under the impression that

Bernie Sanders was an example of leftism

gone too far there may have been some

voices saying that there may have been

actually the most amount of voices that

would be uh affirming that would be from

the Democratic party Hillary Clinton

would probably be like oh yeah Bernie

Sanders is left as I'm gone too far

but as as far as Society was concerned I

think that would be

pretty contentious and not really

self-evident

um

but after the failure of Bernie Sanders

and his own failure to address uh

address that failure like he continued

to endure Hillary Clinton and got

reabsorbed by the Democratic Party

Machine everyone started to see leftism

as just the horrible wokism bullshit

that everyone's always hated

um but now there was no real concrete

left-wing politics such as the populism

of Bernie Sanders to be a counterweight

to that so that all that was left of

leftism pretty much

was just to walk bullshit now let's be

clear in terms of politics we have a

ruling class right we have a ruling

class in my view which completely

controls everything about the political

system in the U.S Donald Trump was a

fluke is an exception to the rule and

he's been put in jail for that very

reason I want to get off off uh topic

but um largely speaking the things that

actually concretely drive politics are

not really aligned with historically

left-wing position right billionaire

oligarchs controlling everything about

our political system you know that's not

really what

robe spear uh would have envisioned as

far as a representation of his own

politics right so I think we can be

clear that

the leftism that's gone too far is

a reaction to the objective failure of

any independent left-wing or left-wing

populistic kind of politics so the

question has leftism gone too far it

absolutely has there's been a total

psychosis where the elite kind of

professional managerial upper stratum of

our society

have this cultural agenda and this

agenda for what they consider to be a

what social mores and norms and cultural

norms should be that is completely

disconnected from the sensibilities of

probably the overall majority of people

in this country and the more people

resist and push back against their

agenda the more they accuse these people

of being under the influence of fascism

or their reactionaries or their evil and

their bad when people could be

apolitical having no political views

whatsoever and they just have this

almost instinctual natural revulsion to

what leftists are trying to pass off as

the new Norm

and look after nearly a decade of failed

uh cultural agenda

the problem with leftism going too far

now is that instead of reflecting back

upon why their position is so unpopular

and so grotesque actually to the

majority of no people I I'd be willing

to die on that Hill that most families

at least

uh object to the cultural agenda of the

left overwhelmingly

um they just kind of continued to double

down and adopt even more extremes this

is an example of that is this whole

narrative about a so-called trans

genocide that's going around because of

the failure of that specific ideology

adopting the

acceptance that it was expected to

there's now claims that you know there's

going to be a trans genocide so we need

to preemptatively uh strike and

you know I don't know how much I can say

but I think it's it's it's leading to a

kind of violence extremism

uh if you go to Seattle with Chaz if you

go to Portland if you go to these hot

beds of these antifa leftists I mean

it's pretty much been normalized among

them that violence against people just

because they disagree with you

and moreover disagree with you on things

of what you consider to be culturally

acceptable is Justified you could be

someone who does no harm whatsoever to

anyone on any tangible level but just

because you openly object to their

opinion on gender or anything like this

they think violence against you is

acceptable

so the question has leftism gone too far

to me seems pretty self-evident it has

uh there needs to be a rude awakening uh

as far as far as the left if there even

is one that they have been in a position

of failure since the defeat of Bernie

Sanders in 2016. nobody's gone back to

the drawing board and figured out why

that was they've decided to just go on

these other directions which have been a

total disaster uh in my view so I think

that's all I'd say to that thank you

very much for those opening statements

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Ashley and radical coder the floor is

all yours

all right uh so the terms left wing and

right-wing are political ideologies that

originated during the French Revolution

in the 18th century the meanings and

connotations of these terms vary

depending on the country region or

context in which they're used but as a

red-blooded American I will focus on the

left wing of the U.S in general being

left wing is associated with advocating

for Progressive or liberal policies that

prioritize social equality government

intervention and Collective action I

have a few categories and examples of

policies in each of these categories

that would fall under this uh these

umbrellas so in terms of climate change

things like investing in green energy

Environmental Protections Banning or at

least limiting fracking incentives to

reducing carbon emissions also I guess

item writes them down but just

acknowledging climate change

um economic and social justice is

another category uh policies would be

thing like focus on things like gender

and Racial equality uh labor unions and

worker rights progressive taxation

social welfare voting participation and

Reproductive Rights in terms of

Education things are going to be focused

on increased funding for public

education free College tuition and or

tuition reimbursement diversity and

multiculturalism in curricula support

for teachers and Educators Educators uh

universal access to early childhood

education and Healthcare Department we

have a public option for health

insurance uh ideally some form of

Universal Health Care eventually uh

price controls on life-saving drugs

increase access to preventative care

Criminal Justice Reform we focus on

things like sentencing laws mandatory

minimums and alternatives to

incarceration police reform and police

accountability restorative justice and

Rehabilitation and ending the War on

Drugs these policies are generally

consistent with the left-wing values of

Human Rights democracy diversity and

inclusion compassion solidarity and

cooperation

on the other hand uh being right wing is

associated with Advocates conservative

or traditionally pursuing their claim to

prioritize individual Freedom limited

government intervention and personal

responsibility in theory some of these

values seem reasonable and perhaps even

admirable however I believe in actuality

those values are best realized through

policies that the right wing explicitly

opposes which would benefit the majority

of people for example the right wing is

currently obsessing over things like

drag queen Story Hour trans people

having access to healthcare or bathrooms

critical race Theory where at least 15

states have introduced measures this

session that would prohibit CRT and

related Concepts in all publicly funded

schools nearly two dozen states have

proposed legislation that would limit

how teachers can talk about race and

racism in the classroom uh restricting

the Reproductive Rights of women we just

saw Roby way be overturned Republicans

have been cutting public school funding

for years uh Republican lawmakers in 43

states have introduced over 250 bills

aimed at restricting the voting rights

of tens of millions of people

these suggest to me that the espouse

value of limited government is primarily

focused on maintaining the interests of

the wealthiest Americans rather than

individual Freedom which they don't seem

to have that much of an issue trampling

over in the name of social conservatism

the values in reality that the right

wing are pushing forward again favor the

interest of the wealthy and Powerful

hierarchy Authority conformity

so has the left gone too far in terms of

climate change the Republican party is

one of the only political parties on

Earth who doesn't even believe in it uh

or that we can or should do anything

about it uh meanwhile the U.S accounts

for 15 of global emissions the total

cost of weather and climate disasters in

the U.S uh in 2020 alone cost an

estimated 95 billion dollars in terms of

Education the U.S spends Less on

education in low-income districts

compared to high income we have a

massive teacher shortage schools with

higher proportions of Black Or Hispanic

students have few or offer fewer Math

Science and College Prep courses in

terms of health care the United States

and that's just the tip of the iceberg

for education in terms of health care

the United States is ranked 35th in the

world when it comes to healthcare

although we spend more on health care

than any other country and as of 2020

approximately 29 million on a million

Americans were uninsured

uh economic and social justice or social

injustice I think is a better way to

describe it uh the focus of it anyway so

massive disparities remain along racial

lines in the wealth gap between the rich

and the poor has never been higher uh an

estimated 45.4 million people and 14

million children lived in food insecure

households women who worked full-time

year-round earned 82 cents for every

dollar earned by men black women earn 63

cents and Latino women earned 55 cents

for every dollar earned by white men 2.2

million lgbtq plus adults experience

food insecurity and 21 of transgender

individuals reported experiencing

homelessness at some point in their

lives and as we all know too well about

40 percent of them have attempted

suicide at some point in their lives the

fact of the matter is and this may be

triggering but facts really don't care

about your feelings the United States

for most of its existence was an

explicit white supremacist and

patriarchal apartheid state primarily

focused on the interests of the white

landowning class that land of course was

acquired and maintained through

racialized imperialism genocide and

slavery and justified through the

invention of race the left as it were

has made incredible strides in reforming

that system into a more Equitable one

into a more Equitable system and for

those of us who seek to continue that

push towards a better world for people

of all backgrounds it is overwhelmingly

clear to me at least that we have a very

long way to go

we'll kick it over to Ashley s

hey yeah so um obviously Brian that was

that was a really good opening statement

thank you all

all statements um I would say that uh

for me personally what I feel like the

the right Wing's main arguments are that

the left has gone too far

um what what have we heard a lot of

we've heard a lot of um it has a lot to

do with female reproductive rights it

has a lot to do with lgbtq plus

Community rights has a lot to do with

crime rights and it has a lot to do with

violence right so um if you look at the

core of it my I guess my main point of

contention would be education levels I

really do think that it it all I mean

that's a broad statement but I think

that a majority of it comes down to

education so if you go back to um what

our first Speaker said about you know

um which cities tend to have the most

crime rates right it's going to be your

democratic-run cities and which women

seem to be the most happiest it's going

to be Republican women if you guys

actually go and look at these studies

and then you look at the studies on

these studies you'll find that these

people like these people that are the

happiest the women

um and and

um so on and so forth they're going to

be the women that are less educated

um

the United States has been become too

soft and finished it's only 34 of women

well if you go and break that down the

thing is I'm gonna ignore like 90 of

this percentage of men versus women in

the debate you know with these

traditional idealistic golf not um

there's someone else I forgot to think

as well there's got to be a coalition

between one uh thank you women and men

that are more educated with college well

thank you for the guy who donated before

thoughts that are so different and far

from the right wing and then when um the

point of contention saying that like

it's going to be your more liberal

cities and states that are that have the

highest crime rates first of all where

do people tend to flock to the most

that's going to be your bigger more

urban dominated areas right anytime that

you have a

a dense population you have so you have

a Melting Pot you have so many different

um genders races uh cultural backgrounds

that's going to cause in and of itself

more conflict you're going to have more

crime but the fact so guys you notice

the thing is

they didn't actually the topic is has

has leftism gone too far

so it's like they're 40 higher over what

is leftism it's obviously what leftists

are doing it's not like have these

values gone too far it's like have left

this gone too far right that's kind of

how I've interpreted it because uh it's

like real oh it's not real leftism well

why not you know

I don't know I kind of feel like they're

not talking about the topic

like okay I don't want to address this I

want to address have left this gone too

far and have they lost the plot right so

I'm gonna try to bring into that as soon

as we can so many studies on it and

that's why I just love I just absolutely

love sarcastically that incredibly right

wing

um wingets you know like to choose

studies that will support their

ideologies but then when you present

conflicting studies you'll find

overwhelmingly that they go oh well

what's the credibility does it do JF is

like a

it's kind of tough to

be on the same team but I can't I'm not

going to argue with him because I don't

want to disrespect the moderator so I

guess

um

that says people tend to believe studies

that already support their preconceived

notions there's a big study on this as

well and I think that just as human

beings we can agree that that's right I

think the biggest thing for me as far as

right left wing

um we could all get down to some some um

monies and things like that sure but but

if we're looking at basic human rights I

would see that the right wing I have

seen especially just in my lifetime as a

millennial that they've continuously

tried to

silence the voice of women silence the

voice of the lgbtq plus Community keep

us in poverty keep us without access to

Universal Health Care and education

all of these I agree with Ryan radical

coder are are ways that the government

controls us the government tries to

control us and the more the government

controls their people

um leaving them

without the option to gain access to

these resources the more you're going to

find that you're going to have unhappy

versus happy

um you know statistics to show it's just

I don't think that people are getting

down to the core of why why are these

people more happy versus unhappy why are

we doing these things and I think that I

think that the right wing saying that

they're all about more freedoms I think

that that is is just the wolf in sheep's

clothing they're telling people what

they want to hear when the truth is they

want more government control they want

to keep these people that are already up

here up here and they want to expect

those of us or that are down here down

here

has she riding on that dick thank you

very much for that opening as well and

before we go into the open conversation

want to say folks if you haven't yet

every time they say basic human rights

coming up we are going to kick it over

to both teams

thank you very much for being with us

the floor is all yours Ashley radical

coder infrared and JF

all right I'd like to answer to a couple

of points from Ashley who claims that

murder is higher in Trump States the

thing is we know the mechanism behind

this statistic uh I don't only read The

Daily Mail I read the studies too and

what we know is that Trump States being

right-wing states end up having uh laws

and and respect for gun rights that is

greater than leftist States however the

crimes are high in Trump's State because

the crimes are high in the cities that

are controlled by the Democrats it is

not that the Republican areas in the

countryside that are inducing these

statistics it is really the the cities

and I I I'm kind of stunned that one of

the admissions of Ashley which is that

more diversity in gender and races tends

to create more density and more crimes

that that is something that we don't

hear from the left very much you seem to

be in contact with the truth there that

your colleagues of the left note often

acknowledge

oh thank you I think that that's common

sense I think that most anybody that

would say you're going to put a hundred

people's 100 people in a room that have

completely different ideologies gender

race and uh cultural backgrounds would

definitely have more conflict than if

you put a hundred people in a room that

do not does that mean I'm a white

supremacist no but that means that I

have common sense thank you but what you

say diversity isn't our strength

I would say diversity is definitely a

strength I'm saying when you put it in a

high concentration overall worldwide

you're going to see that it has nothing

to do with whether or not we should or

shouldn't participate in encouraging

cultural diversity and backgrounds it's

just a it's just common sense it's

common sense and a statistical fact

so yeah and I would okay I was also just

gonna add to that like um in terms of

the like diversity stuff uh I think we

do see at least my understanding and I I

don't have studies on hand or anything

about this

um but like they're when when you put a

lot of different people in like the

Melting Pot situation

um uh initially like uh you do tend to

see that like that like spiking crime on

things like this um especially

especially if it's like super population

dense and very low income

um but which it kind of is to be

expected

um but uh I think over time you do see

uh more cohesion uh between the

different groups that are that are

melting quote unquote melting together

you know

um and and like people like becoming

like more okay like there's a famous uh

bit that like Tucker Carlson complained

about of like people coming back to

their city and a bunch of people were

speaking Spanish but then like if you

read further down the article they're

like talking about how like they've been

learning Spanish and they've started

getting along with people that they

didn't think they could before

um and so there's things like that to

keep in mind as well

so I would just want to say

um responding to the openings just

broadly I'd propose the question how

much of this could be like a kind of no

true Scotsman thing and what I mean by

that is that I'm I'm hearing a lot about

uh values that are purported to be the

values of the American left wing but

don't the actual real existing leftism

meaning the actions and activity of

leftists doesn't that have any bearing

as far as the the topic of has leftism

gone too far and what I mean by that is

that if we're going to Define for

example these important left-wing

political causes such as free health

care and

the whole even even the climate stuff

which even I don't agree with uh but

just just if I were to grant that to you

that that's this kind of Ideal policies

you want to

get through

um how effective are leftists and even

being able to realize that he said okay

well the right wing focuses too much on

the drag queen Story Hour stuff well let

me tell you something I know a lot of

leftist organizations and I've had

experience with leftist organizations

and if you go to their meetings they

will talk about transgender issues for

like 90 percent of it

they don't tolerate any dissent or

disagreement whatsoever on that topic

they make it very loud and clear where

they stand as far as this highly

contentious culture war is concerned I

mean for international women's day for

example an organ is leftist organization

called the PSL decided to hold a drag

show

and it's like they're they put they pour

so much resources into the culture stuff

they are so harsh to anyone who doesn't

agree with it I ca I don't really see

how this focus on maybe frivolous

cultural issues is coming from the right

I think on the ground when you try to

organize with leftists and build a

movement you know even even Bernie

Sanders's campaign in 2020. it's like

you they couldn't do anything they were

totally kept on a leash because all this

woke bullshit and had and made the

impossible for them to reach Ordinary

People in an effective way so my

question would be

just to be sure we get to the dialogue

yeah yeah yeah no I just want to say

real quick like is leftism really just

all these policies you're talking about

or is it this deranged woke stuff that's

preventing any real left-wing politics

from ever getting anywhere you know I

think you would have to look at media

social media versus actual media and

what they uh the way that they

they uh control politics because it just

the things that you're mentioning

specifically

um when Ryan's talking about policies

these are the ways in my belief that

they that the media and the social media

tries to sway your quote unquote average

person into getting more emotionally

invested in which way they want to vote

which is part of what I was going back

to with education if you're if go ahead

Ryan yeah I was just going to say in

terms of like like

um well in terms of whether or not these

policies like represent leftism I think

the the values of like uh of of the

left-wing quote unquote like they seem

to uh generally most people would agree

that there are things like uh the ones I

listed on like social quality government

intervention to varying degrees and

Collective action and that all of these

policies tend to be in in line with that

uh as for like the the trans issues

being like front and foremost

um I do think we we are in uh in the

midst of something of like a a cultural

revolution in terms of like trans

acceptance

um and in in in the wake of that we are

maybe in spite of that uh specifically I

should say

um we have seen a massive uh Landslide

of legislation from a Republican party

uh that's explicitly focused on limiting

the rights of trans people to even go to

the bathroom uh which basically blocks

them from engaging in society I mean if

you uh want to go grocery shopping uh

and you're not allowed to take a shit

um in that in that store then uh you're

like you're fucked like I mean what are

you gonna order hellofresh um you're

really like statistically more likely to

be poor as well um so like you know and

all of these uh things are being a lot

of these culture War things people

complain about cultural cultural like

the work the culture wars being waged on

like by the right like legislatively uh

absolutely do you think some of that

Legend not to cut you off but do you

think some of that legislation might be

a response to this kind of extreme

left-wing activism because I could tell

you before we had any of this

legislation I think it's fair to say

maybe this was 2015 2016. we weren't

seeing a lot of that legislation and it

wasn't as contentious as it is now I

could tell you that I was I was at

College at that time and in these

University campuses just as an example

of the institutions left-wing activists

or leftist activists specifically on

that issue were so extreme and rabid and

aggressive in pushing for it

uh that I I can't really I don't I can't

really say that it's coming from the

right just based on my own anecdotal

observations because I was there before

it got big and I I could I would argue

that the right has just reacted to what

left-wing activists have done if you

want to say this is part of a cultural

revolution that the right wing is being

reactionary with regard to the trends of

society I'd also disagree because

leftist activists who are in these

bubbles have no connection to the wider

Society at all all they've done is use

institutions like corporations Academia

and things that they have power within

and these bubbles

to push the agenda not getting any

traction with an actual society and then

yeah obviously the right right-wing

politicians with huge popular support

are going to be pushing against that but

the reason is because it ha it's not a

cultural revolution it hasn't actually

penetrated Society that's why right-wing

politicians are so successful because

the majority of people are against it

well I think it's penetrated in

different places you know and and like

different bubbles for sure

um

I don't uh sorry

I was also in college around the same

time and uh you know I did see like at

the time I didn't have uh uh a lot of

the uh the quite as Progressive views as

I do now especially on those things like

I was I was mildly reactionary when the

first time someone asked me uh to use

like they then pronounce for them for

example I I I laughed you know um and in

retrospect I I feel bad I laughed at a

friend of mine and I was mean you know

like they asked me to to treat them like

like as a human being to human being

they were like hey like I prefer This

and like it just makes me more

comfortable and I and I I didn't like

yield that at all I was I was very

abrasive to it um and I think that a lot

of people feel this way when they're

first introduced to a lot of these

things especially with people like um uh

switching genders completely like you

know expressing themselves as a as a

completely different person

um and I think uh like yes we're gonna

see as there's more of this uh kind of

allowed in society

um and when I I say aloud because like

you know a lot of places like a lot of

families even like it's explicitly not

allowed which is one of the reasons we

see such high suicide rates and stuff I

think as these things become more public

as people people can share their stories

more you're going you're going to get

that pushback on from people who don't

want them to do that because that's

that's not the norm that's not what

we've that's not how we view men and

women we we have this very rigid uh idea

of gender roles uh historically and uh

and like who's allowed to present in a

certain way who's allowed to wear

certain clothes and wear their hair and

use certain fucking words

um and yeah I I just I don't uh I do

think that it's a reactionary uh just

the legislation is very reactional just

real quick though just to be clear I

just want to say one thing it's but it's

clear that this is not a Grassroots

thing coming from society that the only

reason it's acquired the publicity and

relevance it has is because of the

acceptance it's gotten within

institutions not within Society not

within communities but specifically

institutions with Power Media Academia

and other kind of sites of hegemony if

if it weren't for the activists who

within those bubbles uh won all of those

victories normal people probably would

not be as exposed to this extremely

contentious topic as they should thank

those activists for bringing it to the

Forefront and letting more people

understand like where like these

people's experience and helping them

empathize with them like I did

there's a there's always a voice there's

always a voice so like

there's a lot of things that we're not

going to know or have heard of your your

deaf whatever your definition of normal

is but I think that um you you've got

across across we're just talking about

the United States I guess across the

United States you know you're going to

have a large exorbitant like as we've

seen a huge amount of people that do

identify with these issues that are

being brought forward they've just never

had a voice before so you can say that

about any kind of Revolution like

there's always going to be some bigger

boom so to speak that's going to bring

these issues to the Forefront and make

people feel it like they have the right

to or they're more comfortable to

actually identify the way they want to

identify and come forward with those

beliefs right and again it goes back to

education and exposure as as we as we've

progressed as far as our technology goes

more people being able to talk to more

people across the world more access to

news more access to what's going on out

there people feel less alone so I think

that that can be argued but the issue is

that we're not just dealing with

exposure in terms of people raising

their voice we're dealing with

concentrated attempts to engineer

artificially right no but this is what

came first and then you had backlash no

first it depends no no no I can give you

a concrete example of this first major

institutions within Society made a push

to engineer people's behavior and

regulate people's behavior in the way

that they saw fit it wasn't about giving

certain people a voice it was about

forcing people to conform to behaviors

and sensibilities that were otherwise

not uh they were not disposed to so for

example the concrete the pro the pronoun

thing there's some workplaces that would

require you to oh don't assume someone's

pronoun say your pronoun first all the

the bathroom stuff right all this kind

of changes in how people behave and

interact on an everyday level that's

where their backlash came from it didn't

come so your foundation was built on

Sand quicksand I don't think that's very

concrete I think in terms of the

bathroom bill or the bathroom stuff I

think the the bills start like trans

people have been going to the bathroom

so identifying if it's yeah yeah but if

it's not concrete then how do you speak

for all of the people who were fired

from their workplace and lost their

entire livelihoods and income because

they didn't want to conform to these new

behaviors if it's I would say if you if

you're getting fired from a job for uh

like refusing to use someone's pronouns

or whatever

um there's probably ways that you you

can like if you really just like it's

it's so out you're so against it you

just absolutely can't

um then just call them by their name or

something like I just I think there's

like other ways to engage with this that

don't require you like I think when it

escalates if people getting fired I I'm

very suspicious that it's just this mild

like I I'd just rather not you know like

it it probably is escalated yeah but

people people see this as extremely

contrived and ingenuine and it just goes

against their sensibilities and you can

say okay well if you don't want anything

those are prejudices I I don't think

it's I I actually don't think it's

Prejudice so if you want to you know

give up your livelihood and your

paycheck hold on

here's the issue listen media can't just

decide living in a bubble and out of

touch with people's everyday

sensibilities these are the new Norms if

you don't adopt them we're gonna fire

you we're gonna oppress you we're gonna

harass you shouldn't our Elites and our

major institutions represent the

sensibilities of the majority what gives

them the right to adopt the

sensibilities of an acute minority

living in these coasts these Urban

graduate students whatever and force

that on the majority why should they

expect there's not going to be a

backlash given how out of touch they are

with the majority of people's

sensibilities it's it's fair to say that

when institutions clash with the

sensibilities of the majority those

institutions lose the legitimacy they

used to have and that's what we're

starting to see I want to give you a

chance to respond to radical quota and

Ashley and then I want to hear if he has

anything to say JF as we've been going

back and forth with infrared yes I've

been I've been agreeing with us which is

why I've said silent it's almost uh

surprising that I agree with him so much

that I forgot he was a communist uh but

I've heard something I've heard some

misconceptions from Ryan and Ashley that

I want to bring to the Forefront this

conception that Republicans Across

America are shutting down woman's speech

or shutting down LGBT speech I think

that what's misunderstood here is that

what's mostly happening is that

Republicans and there may be little

exceptions but the vast majority of

those laws that they're talking about

it's Republicans defunding certain forms

of state-funded speech it's really

Republicans not saying you can't talk

about LGBT stuff but we won't pay you to

talk about LGBT this stuff to seven

years old that is very different from

speech restriction that I believe this

is literally the term that Ashley used

that those were attacks on LGBT speech

it's not it's attack on funding of stuff

that parents don't want to teach to

their children

um yeah I mean I'll say uh in terms of

like like teaching it to like kids like

I mean like lgbtq people exist uh I

don't I don't see any like um any reason

to like lie to Children about about

these people um whether or not they

exist I think that's like a really weird

angle to to uh to approach it I

understand that like parents have

reservations about it a lot of parents

have reservations about their children

learning about Evolution a lot of

parents have reservations about uh

children learning a lot of things that I

that they probably should learn in

school uh sex ed uh is an important one

um especially uh in terms of uh I mean

we talked about this uh last time we

spoke on here has I think but uh in

terms of like a at an age-appropriate

level

um like you want kids to understand

things like uh my no no square you know

like don't touch me there um and stuff

like this and they're they're also like

child-friendly ways to talk like oh like

um like some like people who look who

might look like your dad you might some

like like might eventually like want to

look more like your mom and like that so

your criteria there would be it's true

they exist therefore we should teach it

to Children Well I think that's part of

it I I again I don't I don't think we

should lie to the children about whether

these people exist especially if they're

asking questions about it I'm not saying

it should be like like part of the

kindergarten curriculum to like be like

here's okay here's our transgender

module right now it is that's a problem

that's absolutely not true but I would

ask you then would you be up for

teaching race crimes statistics to

Children sure because yeah well

um in terms of talking about racism yeah

in terms of talking about racism with

kids I think uh kids especially like no

no I didn't say all right I know I know

you said yeah I know I know I know you

said in terms of teaching kids about

race and racism I think like uh like

young black kids can certainly

experience racism uh I I think um white

people

I'm not I'm not I'm not I promise I'm

not so if there are racists that come

it's more crime when we teach it to us

because right now we're not what I'm

saying is I wouldn't I wouldn't tell the

kids like okay black people do a bunch

of crime I would I would say like we we

need to teach kids about the history of

racing this country how it was

constructed the way that it worked the

way that it the way that it was used as

a legal construct to block certain

people from access to institutions the

way they prevented people from living in

different areas and the way they

continues to impact the lives of

millions and millions of Americans and

we should understand that the these

these specific legal uh these legal

obstacles and and forces that push

people into these areas and that push

them to be uh so underfunded uh is the

same reason that we see these high crime

rates there and we should well I I think

I think but that's where you're

approving

it's true they exist therefore let's

teach it you don't care about teaching

the truth to Children what you care

about is injecting your moral discourse

into the facts

like Florida is they're calling your

bullshit

they want people to be misinformed

there's something important here though

okay because you just mentioned that if

you wanted to include that detail you'd

also include what you what you think is

the cause for that right which is what I

know is the cause I mean I think I think

it's very very well you you said you

said if if you want to see children

about the the crime you'd also want to

give context and and yeah a cause which

would in your view would be crime and

underfunding of whatever okay well by

that same logic the problem is not the

fact that children are being exposed to

the fact that transgender people exist

the problem is that the way they're

being taught this is getting at to the

fundamentals of how they perceive and

understand what sex and gender is if you

tell children that oh yeah by the way

you can just freely choose your gender

or you may not be the gender you were

born with or that your parents raised

you with that creates a lot of confusion

because you're getting at the

fundamentals of their identity and

you're actually doing something for

their development which is the most

important thing is the development of

child how are they going to become an

adult well when you teach them about

transgender ideology you can't just say

oh yeah we have to teach them that these

certain people exist well they do it

you're what you're hiding though is that

you're also teaching them a specific

narrative and context for why those

people exist which is that they either

chose it arbitrarily or oh yeah you you

may not know what gender you are so if

children start getting confused about

what gender they really are because it

may not be the one they were given by

their parents you're going to see a huge

increase and I think we can demonstrate

this empirically probably right now with

the current generation of people who

identify as trans who otherwise would

not have and that's the problem so if

you want to talk about context would you

also would you would you be open to

presenting would you be open hold on

hold on what issue issue is I think it's

clear that there are great many issues I

do want just to be less humor actually

just to be sure that she understands the

point that you just made in that way as

you build on it no problem

they do you do consider that identifying

as trans problem

um I think it's a complex issue and that

I think most people would agree that if

you're going to introduce uh the

phenomena to children and teach them

about something you have to be willing

to teach them about the multitude of

possibilities that could be the cause as

far as transgenderism is concerned I do

think it's an open debate as to where

that might the the multitude of factors

that could inform that that are maybe

too complex to understand there's one

side which says it's a mental illness

there's another side that says the

complete opposite and who's to say who's

right nobody knows right so if you're

going to bring up the existence of

something to children you have to couple

that with teaching them the complexity

of the the cause and if it's clearly not

possible in the case of transgenderism

to five-year-olds and seven-year-olds

how are you going to teach a

seven-year-old for example about

you know uh the origins of

transgenderism if you're coming from it

from the angle of oh it's a mental

illness how are you going to teach them

if you're coming from the angle of

Judith Butler's gender ideology and

Theory which is what they're being

taught only by the way if you're gonna

introduce children school children to

the existence of trans people you have

to be prepared to introduce them to the

multiple possibilities of where that

phenomena is coming from you can't just

say oh it's coming from people making a

choice or oh this is the real reason the

truth is nobody really knows okay and

this insistence on one theory of gender

ideology it's one Theory that's not been

proven that you're teaching children

potentially is destroying their Futures

and that's the problem okay so in terms

of teaching this the when you say one

gen even like like gender Scholars

gender Theory like nothing like this

it's they're not like one like biased

um what

don't you think someone who's a gender

scholar or theorist yeah of course

they're going to have their own ideas a

lot of them disagree with each other

about a lot of these things absolutely

there are things however that we have

found some degree of consensus on

especially in the medical field so when

we talk about whether or not being trans

quote unquote mental illness this was

historically how it was categorized

right but that's not how we categorize

it anymore because we have a better

understanding of this now and what we do

categorize as a mental illness although

some people disagree with this again a

lot it's not a monolith uh people

disagree about whether or not gender

dysphoria is a mental illness but this

is something that we do diagnose and

this is something that if kids are

confused by this information and they're

like oh well what if I'm what if I'm

gender dysphoric well then perhaps we

can have them talk to a specialist and

most people who go visit these

Specialists they actually don't end up

being transgender so right they don't

end up having gender but some of them do

and we should have those resources

available to them especially when we

have over like uh

pretty decent evidence

um that if we try to just like like okay

force it out of him like try to keep

them keep them from ever expressing it

that that those results are so much

worse so to be clear just just really

quick what you're saying is all this

hinges Upon Us respecting the consensus

and the fact that there's no way that

consensus could be obfuscated or biased

by ideology so you're saying the

consensus arrived by these medical

community in quotes has nothing to do

with ideology nothing to do with

political everything has to do with

ideology well I think anyone

and good faith could admit that the

consensus arrived at by medical bodies

on this issue was 100 percent at least

in part the result of activism not

because of some impartial and neutral

scientific process of review and the

reason I know that is because those

scientific researchers in academies who

hold dissenting views get canceled and

lose their jobs more often than not are

you even allowed to believe that

transgenderism is a mental illness and

most of the research institutes and

academies and and prestigious

universities that exist in America

forget about whether you think it's

credible or not are you even allowed to

entertain that hypothesis in the

affirmative I don't think you are I

think you've got canceled immediately in

this program what is what is progression

though like let's look back you know 100

200 years ago I mean

it's like where does it stop and where

does it start like if you look back you

know women who had any kind of you know

feeling of like

any women that were suffering from any

kind of depression or any women that

were having real true issues because

their voices were being silenced or

because they were being controlled by

their husbands or they were forced to

you know birth 10 children and not have

a voice in anything that's going on what

did we used to do to them we said that

they were suffering from Hysteria and we

and we treated them with electrical

shock therapy or lobotomies like can we

not say that we've progressed now to say

like well women aren't just hysterical

like I guess they really did have some

like valid points and have we not put

into legislation things that have

actually furthered that you know

narrative or belief that people were

starting to actually become woke to why

is this any different like why where do

you I think it's I think it's different

because just because things have changed

doesn't mean that the logic is just

changed for its own sake for example in

the case of women's rights usually that

has come under the logic of equality

that people want to be equal but the

gender ideology goes further than that

it doesn't just say oh yeah we want

transgender people to be able to vote

and we want them to to have recognized

rights I mean everyone agrees with that

and that does follow the log the logic

of progress okay but now it's we want to

use

the same it's stagnant well I'm sorry to

say but progress is not just Eternal

change for its own sake change obeys a

logic and the logic of the uh

transgender ideology the gender ideology

where it's saying we want to take your

public tax dollar money and use it to

teach your children who attend these

public schools because if you can't

afford a private school you're screwed

or you don't have time to homeschool

them you're screwed okay then they are

going to be forced to uh agree or adopt

this gender ideology and be exposed to

it

you don't have a right to talk to

people's children on the basis the core

of it you wanna you wanna say it's about

money your tax dollars and that's a lie

the core of it is that you're a bigot no

the core of it is you don't have the

right to talk to people's children about

your sexual beliefs and you know ideas

together or they they have an older

brother almost all of children's

exposure to let's call it family life

and the realities of gender are things

that are going to derive from their

homes and from their communities not

from institutions trying to test Avant

Gardens

because told you why I just told you why

because you went into school because

they couldn't hear you if you guys are

speaking for each other so I do want to

mention really quick we are going to go

into the Q a shortly just because yeah

we do want to get you guys out of here

by a decent time so I'll give you a

chance to respond wait one thing too is

we hadn't heard from JF for quite a

while I do want to be sure JF if you had

any additional thoughts I mean if he has

a response he should go first

quick yeah the reason it's different

from a school versus a a family life or

a community is because in the case of a

school you're dealing with an

institution that's trying to push this

avant-garde experimental gender Theory

and ideology whereas the observations

children are going to make about the

reality of sex and gender they're going

to make more organically and more in a

Grassroots more in a natural way when

they're getting it from their own family

life when they're getting it from this

Universal standardized institution that

that doesn't have any regard for

people's specific particular realities

either by the way it's a 1 one size fits

all gender ideology they're teaching to

everyone okay isn't that like what

cisgender ideology is like literally one

size fits all Universal when you're

raised in a family like this is

literally the same thing because no it's

not when you're raised in a family and

you are exposed to the norm of you know

a father and a mother and and a family

life and gender roles that is not the

application of some standardized

experimental theory that is the exposure

to the Natural and organic reality of

family life it's true these things have

been like socially and legally

reinforced for a long time like women

were second-class citizens until about

100 years ago like these things have

been really really forced we have tried

to make sure that on an Institutional

level people have equality regardless of

their gender sex or race okay they can

vote they can participate in the same

Universal institutions but those

institutions do not have the right to

force themselves on people in the name

of a specifically contentious cultural

agenda sure and the last thing I'll say

before it depends on what your

definition of that is sure and the last

thing I'll say before we all agree it's

a contentious cultural I think we

obviously I can't all agree because

we're on a debate panel right no no he's

right he's right about

I'm very skeptical that there are um

these like Hardline like this is exactly

what uh what like everything about

gender is is this and this that are like

these are the facts that are being

taught in like schools I I just don't

think that that's as

um that's happening as in as many places

as as uh you're alleging but uh uh JF go

ahead the leftists are amazing and how

they try to explain everything through

oppression by law the cisgender ideology

that Ryan described existed two million

years ago in a cave and it didn't need

any judge it didn't need any politician

it is the natural state of things to

which any system will converge back to

no matter how hard you try because the

thing that keeps the species alive is

heterosexuality every single person is

the son or daughter of a heterosexual

couple and the fact is that you two

leftists and all the leftists or at

least a large part of them right now one

to introduce into the brains of children

into a means of communication that was

meant for parents to teach things to the

Next Generation so that they can in turn

live a heteronormative lifestyle and

live successful reproductive and happy

lives you guys are trying to intervene

in there block the signal from the

parents and replace it with something

that you've concreted in some University

with funds from the state you're not

entitled to this we're defunding you if

you're entitled to defund the police

we're entitled to defunding LGBT

activism in our elementary schools and

no matter whether we we succeed now or

later we will succeed one day because

you guys are not repetitive you guys are

unable to maintain a species so whatever

is the human species one thousand years

from now I can guarantee you one thing

it's heterosexual yeah so uh first of

all to the give you the last word Ryan

and then we got to go to the Q a sure so

to the millions of years things uh the

human species is in millions of years

old it's like uh like what like maybe

300 000 uh earliest humans emerge in

Africa

um and I promise you that they were

homosexual behaviors uh emerging as well

before and after and during and continue

and will always exist the the human

species isn't turning uh we're not all

becoming gay I'm not even gay and while

I sit here and have this whole

conversation

um I I am heterosexual as we say I also

am yeah

um and I just yeah I I don't think that

like like there's never been a point

where like learning that people could be

gay like changed my mind about whether

or not like I was attracted to to like

like female Pacific people like that you

don't never happen you know well I guess

sure sure yeah and someone might I would

say it might be possible that uh someone

understanding or someone finding out

like homosexuality exists it might open

their mind to considering that they

might be homosexual I don't think that's

a bad thing you do I don't care this is

a good time to go into the Q a I want to

say folks if you didn't know I just put

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thank you very much for your question

this one coming in from Miles kinslow

says hey guys we are now at the point

where political opponents are arrested

Society doesn't know what a woman is and

their stupid identity politics

is increasing racial tensions and hatred

so yes the left has gone too far I think

that's for you radical coder and Ashley

um

I I mean I don't uh I don't think the

like uh I think again I think I identity

politics a lot of these things like our

responses um like uh like JF was kind of

uh complaining about like oh why is it

always about oppression well this is

like the the thing that we're like

looking at is the it is the logic of it

it's a dialectic if you will uh as a

like um like like there's this response

to like being forced to behave a certain

way or being excluded from a certain

part of society that you uh have no uh

justifiable reason to be excluded from

except for that like people don't like

the way that you express yourself or

that you present yourself

um and uh yeah of course people are

going to push back against that like

you're always going to see that uh in

terms of the racial stuff I I mean we

are we're like like dude the Civil

Rights Movement was like it was like 60

years ago like uh Ruby Bridges still

like a lot of these people like all

these people are

um a lot of these things that happen are

are very much uh not uh

sorry they're not ancient history they

they influence people's lives there are

people a lot there are people alive

today who like voted to prevent uh like

black kids from being allowed into white

schools you know like people who believe

and they still want that like like we

didn't we didn't solve racism and and

the disparities certainly uh demonstrate

this as well I mean whether it's

Healthcare I also don't think it's fair

to compare gender and race you know

exactly and exclusively they're

definitely different I I agree but there

are there are there are similarities in

the way that uh the the laws yeah

this one going in from Summer row good

to see you it says to the yes team does

advancement in technology and quote

unquote quality of life measure

naturally come with some level of

leftist politics if yes what period in

history would you model your ideal

Society on

it's very hard to say uh perhaps some of

the improvements of Our Lives within the

last hundred years have been partly

caused by leftism I tend to think though

that most of what leftism is is a system

of parasitism and drainage where they

show up in a society that has already

built Success Through the free market

and then they build leftism they build

for example the educational system in a

way that drains this success and

eventually shuts it down but perhaps

there are things like giving education

to people who in a free market World

wouldn't have had it perhaps that helps

them in some form but the fact is that

they shouldn't be educated as we've seen

through my statistics they are not they

are not helpable

yeah there's one coming in from

appreciate it Ethan Osborne says Haas

why do you lick Imperial U.S police

boots support segregation and theocracy

spicy yeah I don't know exactly what

you're talking about for the two things

I don't support racial segregation

uh I don't support uh an American

imperialism I've been de-platform for my

opposition toward it

but uh as far as what was the last thing

he said

so he said How's why do you lick

Imperial U.S police boots and then also

theocracy

oh uh because it's based I don't know I

mean what do you what are you asking

like uh why do I support theocracy well

I think we're gonna have to Grapple with

the fact that we've never really escaped

religion

and uh

we we haven't we don't really live in a

secular State either here in America or

anywhere in the world really so that's

kind of my view

that reminds me folks all of our guests

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infrared and jf's links in the

description box this one coming in from

Summer row strikes again says to all

Debaters do you see a Resurgence of

right-wing politics in the mainstream

during our lifetime if yes how do you

envision it manifesting

I guess we've kind of seen in 2016 the

start of a rise of a new generation of a

new type of right-wingers that we hadn't

heard for a couple of decades but it's

going to keep the momentum I don't know

it's hard we got censorship that it does

but we might come back hard mostly

through the evolutionary forces that

favor us conservatives just make more

babies

I'll agree with you after we saw this

this Rise um of this new uh I I I call

it I I after I did a Google search for

this apparently a lot of other people

too call it this as well but I consider

it like a kind of like post-modern

neo-fascism

you got it anybody else yeah I think uh

yeah I agree with others when they say

it's already

been gaining traction

um but I think I think actually it's

going to encounter a limit and that

limit is going to be

after one makes it clear that they

reject the cultural agenda of the left

is that really the end of politics

and the end of you know ideology at that

point I think I see it actually as a

clean slate for a new beginning instead

of an end point because I don't think a

politics exclusively defined by

rejecting the left is viable because you

know uh to give you an example really

quick Ron DeSantis is trying to co-op

Trump's Maga thing

and it's just based on reacting to the

left's culture agendas which everyone

already agrees we reject so

that I just don't think it's enough

right that's my view I think I think

that any time that um yeah I do I do

agree also that we've seen a Resurgence

of the extreme right-wing

um I guess quote-unquote old school

beliefs but I think that anytime that

you're that Revolution or change is

coming that you're going to incite

response from some of the most extreme

people that are in our nation so I think

that it makes sense why why we see so

much anger and pushback because you're

you're trying to make change I think

that that's just in history any any

great changes that have ever been made

have come through Revolution and that's

always backed by a lot of passion a lot

of feelings a lot of emotions and a lot

of personal experience which makes it

more passionate so I I that's my two

cents on that you got it summer rose

strikes yet again says jfduc

multiculturalism as a lost cause why or

why not can't we educate people from

different backgrounds to become

productive and non

and mius to our society just as we do

for people with dyslexia for example

well uh it's Alaska isn't a very long

term and under our current societal

functioning because we have democracy

and democracy reduces systematically to

a a digital fight between the center

left and the center right no matter how

zoomed in you take and within that fight

within that binary fight it's very bad

to have people with extremely different

sets of interests like the blacks of

America the whites of America so it

creates too many conflicts in too many

dimensions for politics to resolve well

in those cases so no it's not viable

multiculturalism

this one from Light of the twin lamps

says clockwise starting from top left

you say okay let's see just have to be

sure that these are appropriate

nicknames female NPC that's not too bad

is female a bad word nowadays I heard it

just someone yesterday corrected me they

said I'm not supposed to say male and

female anymore it's like men and women

they were probably a leftist here's my

advice if you're if you're gonna call

women females like a lot of it you're

gonna make a lot of them are like really

uncomfortable so really

what if I call males like guys males

yeah I think that's I think that's kind

of weird as well like it's kind of a

like a very scientific way to refer to

like a human being you know like it's

a female all the time sure huh all right

well this the an NPC actually in case

you didn't know that means you're you're

a non-playable character they think that

you just read the script of the left

verbatim and that's basically your

function Ashley is this what are your

thoughts yeah that's definitely my

function all I do is exactly what

radical coder tells me to he sends it

over ahead of time I read it and then I

just make sure that that's exactly what

I portray online and in return I get

feed picks don't worry they've got other

insults they say wall of text simp I

think that's radical coder what does

this mean do you guys know what this

means yeah he's definitely a Sim he's

myself yeah wall of text just means that

I guess I said a lot of you're just

going on and on and on yeah I have a lot

to say I'm passionate about this stuff I

care a lot about these issues I think

they're really important yeah yeah

infrared they call you Chad I think

that's supposed to I have oh that one

that one's for me actually that makes

sense this is one of your fans now JF I

I don't they say Boomer Coomer is this

that's not good is it

a boomer Kumar uh no there's really no

good way to phrase it to frame it

thank you very much yeah but yes thank

you later the twin lamps for your

support and your uh all in love it's a

term of endearment that they call you a

Coomer JF or but we do want to say our

guests are linked in the description

folks even if you're at the podcast

Ethan Osborne says Haas

since you think climate change is a hoax

why don't you get certified and join me

on the front lines of the wildfires this

season training is free bro let's see

what you're made of

um am I even allowed to talk about this

topic on YouTube or are you allowed to

yeah because we use we hosted one like a

year ago but that's funny you say that

because I was just thinking during this

debate like in the first somebody said

something that made me think of global

warming and I was like I wonder if we

could do that topic anymore because a

year ago it was fine certainly five

years ago was fine but I was like yeah

I'll I'll first of all I'm not I don't

deny climate change but I do have

skepticism of the uh

the whole you know oh it's all driven by

carbon emissions I'm just slightly

skeptical of it but I'll tell you what

if you're just gonna have such a

superficial analysis I'll do that when

you come to my home in Michigan every

winter when there's a snowstorm and you

shovel my driveway and if you shovel my

driveway and pour ice on the road so I

don't slip and fall or whatever then

I'll help you out wherever you are in

California so I think it's only fair

super interesting this one coming in

from

thunderstorm says I'm neither right nor

left the left seems like a cult though

they say only hiring their own from

colleges in government and corporations

using the poor and minorities as a

political tool that they never actually

help we'll give you a chance radical

coder and Ashley I'm I think that that

could be easily easily easily said for

both sides I think that that could be I

mean honestly everything that was just

said could also be applied to the right

100 percent

uh I would I mean I I would definitely

agree that like uh a Democratic party

like doesn't do enough to like actually

help people

um I mean I I'm Pro things like

reparations and stuff it's literally

like unpaid labor that has put people in

like worse positions in life um and and

all the things that piled on top of uh

that unpaid labor um that like things

like that yeah I don't know fine with it

gotcha someone told me that if you use

the word female it makes you like a

pharyngi in the Star Trek show are they

like autistic type aliens

do I come off as autistic if I say

female I don't know some it depends I

think a lot of it depends on context but

uh yeah it can it can I think oh I call

myself a female

yeah I think it's a little different but

I but I I understand it's like the

technical term so you sound like robotic

or something because it's okay I get it

now that's okay Ethan Osborne says Haas

I'm not drunk this time bro what does

that mean I don't know

lahaz do you recognize this individual

Ethan no I what what is what's the what

are they saying did you have some sort

of drunken encounter with him in the

past he says I I've debated a lot of

drunk leftists on my show before like

they come in my VC and they kind of just

are drunk but I that one I don't anyone

in my community recognize

I don't even Osborne is their name but I

also have to say folks I have to say oh

we want to say thank you guys so much

and I have to say thank you to the

speakers because all of our speakers

they've been on here more than once the

speakers or the life of the channel and

I I just want to say you guys the reason

I'm wearing this suit do people know the

reason I put a couple Easter eggs in

today's debate one I'm wearing a suit do

you guys not know why it's 100K you guys

hit 100K I'm celebrating

this is my way of celebrating as I

thought I was like should I call friends

we go out to dinner or something I was

like no you know what I'm gonna be with

the channel to celebrate so I am

thankful to get to celebrate with you

guys it happened this morning the folks

that audience my friends the speakers

are the lifeblood of the channel so we

really do we want to give all the credit

to them because if this is just me

debating myself every night it'd be

terrible the other thing is there's

another Easter egg in the names I put

Ashley s do you guys you guys recognize

what show that reference is okay this

one from Summer

says to all Debaters do you feel well

represented by the political parties in

your area what would your ideal

political party look like I don't know

if he means like what would the race be

or if he needs like what would their

ideology be and probably that just that

that's what it sounds like

um

personally I feel uh split I felt torn

50 50. I don't know what the what the

ideal political party would look like

I'm gonna go out and say that I I don't

identify as Democratic as democrat or

republican I don't I don't agree with

everything the Democrats do and I don't

agree with everything the Republicans do

just to touch briefly like I I am a gun

owner you know for instance like I'm not

I'm I I'm I am all about like less

government control the better so I used

to identify a lot with the Republican

Party

um and when I started seeing some of the

ways that they were controlling

people uh even even harder in some areas

than I feel like the Democratic party or

then the Republican party or vice versa

Democratic party was then I started kind

of I don't know I I don't know what it

would look like but I know that this

ain't it I know that just Republican or

just Democrat ain't it that's I don't

know exactly like I have a lot of

thoughts but I'd have to go on for like

a 30-minute Spiel and we don't have time

for that I just

I don't know exactly but I'm not I'm not

a yellow dog either one I will say that

there were some questions brought up

today that I didn't

um I mean there were some questions I

have that weren't brought up today you

know I didn't get to go on that but one

really important thing

um what what is a woman I think that in

general any anybody that you look at

that you meet on the street and you

think hmm that's probably that's

probably a woman like that's a that's

some that is some quote unquote female

characteristics feminine characteristics

I think that that's what we could say as

a woman you know I think that we all

know that there are feminine

characteristics or masculine

characteristics if you tend to have more

masculine characteristics I would

immediately my brain would associate oh

okay mail if you had more feminine or

female characteristics my brain would

automatically go oh female so I'm sorry

but that's just a question that's been

brought up a lot we didn't get into and

I really wanted to say like I don't

think it's that hard guys

um yeah in terms of like feeling

represented um I I mean I I definitely

compared to the Republicans yeah I mean

Democrats look like uh look like Angels

but um uh in terms of like the like the

societal goals I I mean that we got we

got such a long way to go you know um

there's like so much to be done and

Democrats are a lot of times like

dragging their feet you know and uh

um I I just I just think we we need we

need to put more pressure on our

politicians to to like do more to help

people and uh like help I mean like uh

Biden like Biden ended like child

poverty briefly uh which is a bizarre

sentence to say like we briefly ended

child poverty right

um and then that uh the that act or

whatever whatever the the bill was like

it expired I guess and like it wasn't

renewed and it's like why why would you

just let that go like like we were

literally like feeding like all the

everyone was able to eat like that's

really important

um and uh I think a lot of people are

underrepresented a lot of people don't

have access to the voting booth very

much a lot of Republicans are like again

we talked about over 250 bills that are

forcing people out of or like making can

get harder and harder for people to vote

and there's a millionaire things like

that that I I just I I would like to see

more people be represented um I I like

uh inclusion and diversity and all these

things diversity of opinions and

diversity of all the other uh traits

like I just I I like people

um I think that it's better when there's

more people that I can interact with and

learn from and who can make the world a

better place around me

um and I I yeah I don't see why any good

reason to like

um uh like stop like hinder people from

from thriving I definitely I strongly

disagree with JF that like a lot of

these people are like lost causes and

like like uh I think that's a uh uh

frankly I I I uh I I think it's I think

it's rooted in some some beliefs about

uh about certain groups of people

um that uh uh that he holds on to but

um it's neither here nor there I guess

anybody else on that question so I would

say really quick I would like a uh

explicitly working class

centered

third party that just says you know we

need to put the interest of the working

class at the four

and uh no compromises

as far as you know culture politics

upholding the mass line you know the

popular line I'd like to see a

populistic

party

that's not bold into the special

interests or uh

you know

the ruling class but that's just me

what I'd like to have is a entire

redistributionist party and our slogan

would be even when you're starving we

ain't helping

Grinch you got it thank you very much

for this question coming in from Light

of the twin lamps says why left why does

the left wand open borders for masses

from third world who do not share the

same tolerance of the LGBT

uh well I mean I'll first of all say I

don't think there's like any um U.S

politician who uh has advocated or like

any yeah for open open borders like I

don't know exactly what that that policy

even looks like um like uh but but in

terms of like people being able to like

like move here like that's that's

probably good A lot of people do have

um uh uh regressive views on on a lot of

things that I I think they should evolve

their views on and but I would say uh we

do see that uh especially um like the uh

for example um uh the Muslim Community

in America is generally more Progressive

on lgbtq stuff than um

um even even like uh at least a few

years ago the Mormons although the

Mormons did uh no I gotta push back on

that it's not the Mormons did come out

backing the defensive uh

whatever it was it's not true

I'm around Dearborn Michigan right now

and I could tell you there was a huge

controversy over uh a lot of LGBT

literature and school libraries and that

became like a huge National controversy

and the Muslim Community is very much

still like extremely hostile to uh

to that yeah and I I don't mean that

like I wasn't uh saying otherwise I do

think there is a lot of like the the

more conservative side of that

absolutely I agree and they they're in

lockstep with the the Christians who

hate them so much and who tried to ban

them from coming in here when Trump had

his Muslim bin that was overturned after

seven days

this one coming in from do appreciate it

go ahead Ashley I didn't mean to I was

just gonna say that I am the human in me

wants open borders but the um

I guess the American and me supports uh

strict order rules so

you got it and heads up folks we can't

take any more questions we want to get

our guests out of here tonight we're a

little bit over already what I was

hoping to get us out of here by but this

one from dustinbox says Ashley and

radical coder why don't you give your

belongings to minorities

I have many times yeah I don't have a

whole lot so yeah everything I own is

behind me you can see it all I gave it

all I gave it all to a blackout on the

road I'm actually glad they asked that

like I I I I have done many I have

helped spearhead many

um like when when Ryan was talking about

um children in America that are going

hungry and at the time I lived in a very

Republican conservative town in Oklahoma

um one might even call like one of the

more like you know Rich towns like

people that had a lot of money it was

you know and um I I did uh an entire

program or helped spearhead an entire

program anyways that

um we would pack snacks and food and

things for kids during spring break

because a lot of these kids during

spring break they don't have food in

their homes their parents are working

they're going home and they don't have

snacks or things to eat like they

they're able to get at school

I do actually do more than just sit here

in a corner of my room and and talk

about these things I actually believe in

them and I do support

um lgbtq I support uh poverty and I do

my part as as well as I can with the

resources I have to help make the world

around me a better place and I I really

encourage and employ you to do the same

whoever asks that question yeah and I

just want to add because I memed a

little bit at the beginning of the

question um but uh the I mean I not

first of all I don't really make much

money right like right now I'm not

exactly rolling in it um but even if I

was I don't think that uh like

individual donations are like that's

gonna like serve as like uh like the

reparations and and the the Investments

that I think are needed

um in a lot of these communities to to

make real change and give them the

agency to make the changes that they

want Miami it's been a really

interesting 48 hours the last video is

going absolutely insane so we're gonna

be asking people again what their

thoughts are and we'll be on the search

for fat G I own

no no not that I did I hear you right I

thought you said that you and I'm not

joking I really thought you said this is

why I'm asking I was like really like or

was it

did you say you gave all of your stuff

away to a black guy yes I was meaning I

was I was I was meaning it was a joke

yeah okay thank you thank you young kids

for teaching me the memes and this one

coming in is that that's a meme okay

this one from Ben Noble noack says

question Ashley do you believe the

deadly spread of the let's

quote uh the left woke mind virus maybe

an explanation for the femi Paradox well

what the heck is the femi Paradox

the Fermi Paradox means that basically

what happened is that um if you believe

in life on other planets there's a

paradox so like if there is intelligent

life on other planets they would have

visited Us by now right we would have

evidence of that which I know that

there's a lot of controversy behind that

but we would have hardcore evidence now

the Fermi Paradox basically is saying

many different things but one of the

things in my interpretation of this

question is the Fermi Paradox and this

instance one of the theories is that yes

that there is and has been intelligent

life on other planets that equates to or

advances us but that that Society

basically did what we see a lot of right

now happening across the world which is

where they they basically destroyed

themselves if you want to call that

nuclear war everybody's gone and so that

either they're gone or they're starting

over from square one again and that's

why we haven't actually seen them so my

interpretation is is like this woke

mindset where we're trying to just get

all inclusive everybody all together do

I believe that what we're doing in turn

is completely destroying ourselves no I

don't because I think that that's a

theory and I think that at the end of

the day if you practice trying to accept

others and trying to be a good person

and improve the world around you that a

lot of that would include almost all of

that would include

um respecting others choices to be who

and what they want to be as long as

that's not harming other people

inherently you're not out there just

actually destroying lives

um literally then no I don't think that

it is uh I don't think it equates to the

Fermi Paradox thank you for the question

virus could explain the Fermi Paradox I

have my own opinion on other life forms

out there and I don't think it's a point

of convergence of much life forms

leftism is basically an accident of

history that will last a couple hundred

years it will be gone and most of our

history as a species will be

heterosexual baptism and Progressive

values will exist as long as there are

people pushing against them

this one coming in from the tin foil

freak says if right-leaning people in

government are good with money why is

the national debt and economic situation

worse once a conservative gets in office

I'll answer really quick just one point

of view that's maybe a little against

the left

whoever is now in office and then you

look at the policies that were put in

place by the people that were there

before them a lot of times that is more

reflective of the economic state of

things so I don't think that that's a

exactly accurate statement or question

anyway

anybody else

I kind of missed the question so I do

want to read it again I'll try well I

think it's it's more for infrared or

especially JF because infrared's

technically more socialist if I

understand right communist

at least you're not you're at least not

a conservative so for JF they said

if right-leaning people in government

are good with money why is it that the

economic situation and national debt get

worse once a conservative gets in office

oh well because there's a contradiction

in term between right-wing and

government a true right-wing air

wouldn't be in the government the true

right-winger with abolish the government

so when you see these Republicans that

are poorly managing our our uh our state

they are statists and therefore they are

communist as far as I'm concerned I

agree right Wingers should not be in the

government you guys should all I'll

leave that'd be awesome well and there's

the problem as long as they think like

this I'd rather go into the government

and Destroy what I can but when you look

I mean they can go and just like be like

decent people and I are like and I think

a lot of them are but a lot of things

they're doing are not decent you know so

I don't know I wish they'd stop doing

that and I wouldn't say the things I

just said

this one from go away says when I was

four years old I knew I was a

Libertarian thank you for that and night

shift one thousand ten thousand says

question for infrared and JF is taxation

theft in one word yes

yes

what justifiably I didn't okay well are

you okay this one coming in from CE says

infrared are you a Muslim

yes I am

wow

this one coming in from Robin Hood

6143 I believe that gender ideology is

sexist and as to rely on the belief of a

soul that predates the mind I am a vegan

atheist anti-natalist but I think the

left is going too far on the gender

thing

disagree

disagree super interesting

Amelia says why can't leftists address

the fact that if leftism and the lgbtq

Plus

was developed genuinely then why do they

need reactionary institutions of

parasitic ruling class to survive

um I mean like gay and trans people

exist and it the institutions like that

have started that have uh recently

started to recognize and acknowledge

their existence and and and you know

push back against the the traditional

view of these things that they should be

suppressed

um I mean like you you have to have you

we didn't get we didn't get like civil

rights with like no institutional

backing you have to have this this uh

this forming of this combining of like

activists and um intersecting interests

uh and all sorts of things that uh yeah

I mean it's it's it I don't know it you

need you need institutional power to

push back against institutional forces

right I think that it did develop

genuinely I think again I'll go back to

it's just the more people that hear

about hey there's other people out there

like me I just don't like saying that it

didn't develop genuinely like oh I'm

just gonna identify as another gender

because you know it's so cool to do that

right now like I just really want to be

ostracized and well I mean to be

have one of the highest you know uh

levels of

suicide that's out there given how small

that exception is

whatever your views on it the

transgender phenomena was always very

small and suddenly it's become so big

and there's again like that's not a

genuine reason for that you're not

saying that people weren't out there

before you're just saying that that the

more that other people know that it's

there's more people like them and that

they're not going to be you know hanged

from trees that is the problem when were

they when was anyone being

we're talking about the transgender

phenomena specifically I don't think

people were being it all goes hand in

hand

I think that there's a

we could call this genuine or

disingenuous I don't know but I think

that there's a level of progression

right you know I'm I'm just gonna go out

on a limb I'm just going to go out on

the limbs hold on I'm I'm just gonna

answer your question if I can that it

was more acceptable you know quote

unquote like maybe back in 2014 2015 we

were starting to accept just like gay or

homosexual as being you know more

acceptable it's progression it's

progress It's it's the woke mind virus

you know yeah but I'm gonna go on I'm

gonna go out on a limb and say that the

reason every major corporation in

America has pushed this agenda is not

just because of progress every major

um yeah every single one uh even even

Bud even bud

Bud Light if you can believe it they're

printing on their beer cans you know why

because transgender people like to drink

too they sure do yeah but not I don't

know it's called marketing listen listen

you do you okay the majority of

consumers of Bud Light in particular are

probably not the demographic you want to

reach out to in terms of virtue

signaling this issue so I have to say

I'm gonna go out on a limb I could be

wrong of their sales decline could be

wrong

but I'm pretty sure they have ulterior

motives but I could be wrong I'm just

gonna move on tank sister says great job

on the debate Haas it's unfortunate that

you had a team with Jay

oh actually it wasn't that bad in the

debate right here there's a lot I

disagree with but

you know there's a lot of good points

made too so you know I was gonna say I'm

surprised that you guys agreed on you

guys agreed on an awful lot this one

from one-eyed Heathen says everyone what

do you think we can do to improve our

media literacy right or left

um uh go ahead yeah I uh I mean we just

gotta help people help more people do uh

like better critical thinking I mean you

know I wouldn't even necessarily just

call it critical thinking like like

thinking should be critical you know and

uh we I don't think we uh we engage or

like we're incentivized to engage with

media in that way generally

um and and to I mean a lot of it comes

to those incentives uh I guess so I I'd

like to give people the tools to to

break down uh things better and uh just

goes along with more education to

piggyback off of what he said is is that

um don't just believe everything you

hear don't take it at face value do your

own research read articles read the

studies

um from uh opposing points of view and

points of view that support your own

preconceived mindset as well and then

you know do compare the two and then

come up with what you believe to be fair

and just research over research yeah I

would say combat censorship and

decentralize the process of true funding

so that we're all on Twitter we're all

disconnected from each other we come to

our own conclusions and we have a

collective way of expressing it that is

not controlled by leftist CEOs at

Twitter or Facebook yeah left note noted

leftist Elon Musk okay

is an environment that is leftist yeah I

think when we're talking about media

literacy

uh there's no way to promote that

because there's no institution that's

going to be neutral enough to do that so

I honestly I would tell you you know

what's going on with this media

polarization I'm an accelerationist

let's hit the BR let's hit the uh

let's let's hit the gas pedal because

there's no way to reverse it so let's

just see where it's going to take us

because there's nothing we can do to to

stop it so decentralized total Free

Speech you know what I mean um

no way to resist the wild nature

of this information I like free speech

this one from Chris Morlock says for

Ashley and radical would you agree if

lgbtq people are not reproducing

biologically speaking their main way of

growing their movement is ideological

recruitment outside of a family

relationship

um no I don't agree with that yeah no I

I again like if if people like how if if

people learn words to describe the

things that they're already feeling and

then they use those words to describe

the things they're feeling that's not

like you're you're just you're just

giving people again you're just giving

people words to describe I don't know

it's just it's not like uh

the more people that might come out as

you know

um gay or trans or bi or any of that I

don't think that at the end of the day

it's actually going to stop the human

reproduction like the the idea that like

the more that people know about this or

accept it that the more people are just

gonna do it it sounds like some closeted

homosexual like feelings in my opinion

it sounds like you yourself might think

oh my God if I'm Really Gonna Keep being

exposed to all of these transgender

people then I myself am going to become

transgender or gay like I don't think so

like I like penises and I enjoy having

sex with men I have had children and I

still accept these things like are

people that are so against it like you

really believe that like this ideology

like the idea that like people can have

other genders is really just going to

infect the world and that no one else is

ever going to want to we're talking

about children you know we're just

talking about children okay so as a

child like even like you think that

these children are going to just be like

oh man you really okay yeah like I guess

if you I think it's like I could believe

that I guess if you were exposed to this

as a child maybe yeah one fourth they

say one-fourth of the Zoomers are not

even straight

a lot of people can play with their

sexuality if it's more acceptable but at

the end of the day like when they're 25

to 35 like if they're going to decide

like okay

I have a family do I want to do X Y if

you make life altering decisions like uh

taking me that's not what the question

is asking yeah and it was for like uh

I was I was just gonna have like I don't

know I have a lot of gay friends I have

a lot of friends of all under the

rainbow you know and I I've spent all

the time with these people I've it's

never made enjoy sex with women less

thank you black we'll jump to the next

one this one coming in from by the way I

just got an idea

couple of things one I asked if anybody

recognized the reference of Ashley s

it's from the show recess come on does

anybody right you remember a reason I

did did you watch it

JF no oh okay well your husband think is

I'm gonna put a poll in the comments I

just thought of a way to do it on

YouTube so folks do want to encourage

you to come over to modernity debate

post your Vote or I should say put your

vote in in the poll which will be in the

comments after this debate this one from

summer rose as Ryan isn't it isn't an

eternal Cry of toxic leftists to quote

follow the science or isn't that their

Eternal cry he says why do you not wait

the word of the PHD scientist in front

of you more highly than your own

um well I I mean in general I I would

give like a PhD scientist about a

specific topic a little bit more weight

about that topic specifically

um but uh I mean I I would also like you

wouldn't just take like one person's

opinion on those things uh that that

would actually be the uh what people

call the uh the appeal to Authority

fallacy um the fallacy there is when

you're appealing to like one individual

rather than like a body of uh of people

who are who have kind of come to this

this conclusion and doesn't mean their

conclusions are infallible uh by any

means um but it's certainly more

reliable than just like one dude's uh

opinions about like biological

determinism or whatever also there were

a lot of Nazis that were scientists and

doctors

um should we have just believed in

everything that they thought was correct

so what you're saying is we shouldn't in

fact always trust the science

yes or we shouldn't trust ever we

shouldn't trust everything you shouldn't

trust anything

from Dustin Buck says Riley Gaines was

judged attacked by a leftist mob who's

Riley Gaines

she is a speaker for TP USA who's an

athlete who lost to Leah Thomas the

trans swimmer who won in the woman

category and she feels that she has been

robbed of a medal for competing with a

biological male maybe they should she

should have trained harder

this one coming in she's jacked like if

anybody's ever been jacked I think

that's a complicated issue I'm I'm I am

being yeah there that would that would

be uh a lot for me to get into because I

have some ideas of both sides a little

bit on that but yeah it's a difficult

thing

she's very fit

this one's coming in from Dustin we got

summer row says we got that one void

bomb says to the left how do you

reconcile your stance on LGBT as

revolutionary when it coincides with

multi-billion dollar pharmaceutical

companies and Ford Foundation funded

think tanks

sure so I don't form my beliefs about

like uh yeah I don't form my beliefs

like based on what those companies push

for uh historically a lot of major

corporations probably wouldn't have

pushed for these things um but it seems

they do now um probably because though

like there's a broader acceptance that

these people exist that they should be

on society a lot more people are coming

to understand that they know someone who

falls into these categories in their own

lives and that helps change their views

of them in the same way that being

around people who look different from

you can change your views about those

kind about those people as well

um so like we're gonna see uh more

acceptance uh and I I like I think

there's uh kind of a

maybe it can appear as if there's more

support than there really is when a lot

of these major corporations because they

are doing it for profit of course

because that's what they care about it's

capitalism baby

um which I I'm not uh the biggest fan of

at the end of the day

um but uh I mean like they're they're

chasing the dollars you know and the

dollars at this point uh are coming from

people who are a little bit more

Progressive than I guess that a lot of

people want them to be I think that a

lot of points I think that a lot of

people I think that all politics are

controlled by capitalism right now so I

think that that question is is made

specifically by somebody that wants to

try to tear apart another person's

ideology based on a double standard I I

don't think that's a I don't think

that's a genuine question I think that

that's like hey like the you know this

is being supported more by big

corporations and pharmaceuticals but

like if you look back throughout the

history has in everything so uh I think

that goes down to capitalism I don't

think that it has so much to do with

human rights

you got it last one thanks very much

Asian black said no questions just a

tiny drop in the bucket love you all

thanks for your support agent black that

means more than you know and want to say

huge thank you to our guests folks they

really are the lifeblood of the channel

they are what make this channel fun so I

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linked below Ashley radical coder

infrared and JF it's been a true

pleasure always James thank you so much

thank you JF thanks Haas it was good

talking to you guys bye guys juicy does

Italy's I'll be back with a very quick

post-credits scene folks you don't want

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thanks for backstage you can't see or

hear us

just to let you know yeah oh yeah that's

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me so don't worry about it

juicy my dear friends thanks for being

here seriously it was a blast that was

really fun that put in it let's bring in

my steps so yeah I'll let you guys go

thank you again my apologies for the

Delaine I really do apologize for that

that was just a weird deal but it was

nice meeting you JF and it was good

talking to you again Hoss yep see you

guys later bye stay safe here have a

good night

ah

back into the control room

should I get my green screen back

in the old control room

uh are we even allowed to talk about

this pentagon

stuff

I don't know

there's some Pentagon leaks I'm not sure

if we're allowed to talk about them

thank you so much Bonnie good job

appreciate you guys I want to direct

your attention to this beautiful tweet I

made and I just wanted to show you

because I was just really proud of it I

want to show you the definition of a

gangsta King

a leader who puts the interests of his

people first no matter what the

International Community and their fake

media fake news media says beautiful

tweet

I just wanted to draw your attention to

it because I just think it deserves

thousands and thousands of likes

now does Mike the manager wanted to be

yeah I'll I'll bring him on I'll bring

him on I don't know what he wants to

debate about

but if he wants just get in show q and

I'll drag you in

he may not be available

he may not be available

um let me think there's

I really forgot about that whole debate

I just had there's some things I want to

say it's like I forgot

yeah I'll debate him if he wants to get

in show Q I will debate him right now

he may not be available

and

that's all right no problem

he's ready

all right I'm waiting

guys are like pressuring him and shit

you know he's getting his mic ready it's

gonna happen

everybody can chill

we're all right

thank you so much voidberg dprk road

trip win

I'm actually going to the gprk I don't

know when but Sean use

basically gonna hook me up with dprk

vacation

that's a real thing by the way I'm

actually going to the dprk which

xiangyou that's the thing I'm doing

maybe next year I don't know I will be

going to North Korea

I will be going to North Korea

the Democratic Republic

Democratic People's Republic of Korea I

will be going

that's gonna happen

it might even be next year honestly

but I'm going to Turkey soon to get hit

when Haze Aldean has a full head of hair

and I could just wake up and stream

without even having to like shower

you guys are gonna that's listed one

year from now infrared's gonna be like

I'm telling you I'm gonna be a celebrity

one year from now one year from now

when the whole thing takes effect

because it takes like a year to fully

take effect

I will be a fucking huge celebrity like

I it's over it's over for everybody when

Hazel d

got a full

head of hair that's gonna be too

powerful

there's some shit I wanted to talk about

there's some stuff I wanted to fucking

react I want to show you this cool video

about the Ukraine war

um

let me show you this super cool

video about the warning crane debunking

all the claims that it's an

interimperialist War this is a sick ass

fucking video

but I think Mike might be okay when Mike

is ready let me know for now we're gonna

react to this awesome

video

all the red live

Hugo pink Hakeem dumb fucks who claim

it's an interimperialist conflict if

they watch this fucking video they'd all

be blown the fuck out

special military operation and the

Russian political regime

in this piece we would like to set the

record straight on our view of the

special military operation and the

conflict in Ukraine

as we see it all the misunderstanding

and conspiracism that has been

flourishing in the leftist info field

around the reasons for the start of Smo

follows from an inadequate assessment of

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no offense to anyone who's getting

dissed in this video I have no

uh

yeah no offense to that woman

not my video

she got it so these are Russian

communists who are critical of Putin

but and I don't think they're part of

the uh kprf

but they're offering a very good

analysis I probably among the best

analysis of the war and they're

disproving all these stupid claims it's

an interimperial's war and they'll go

through the whole thing

sense of understanding economics

even before the operation there were

fairly adequate assessments of the

Contemporary Russian economy in the

leftist info field

thus Economist Oleg komalov in a number

of his videos and interviews describes

the following oil and gas exports are

the most profitable and consequently the

key sector of the state economy

as a result other economic spheres and

areas are either secondary or adapted

tuned to the oil and gas economy

thus Oleg describes a situation in which

currency exchange rates are artificially

inflated to increase the profit from the

pipe when recalculated from currency

into rubles

at the same time negatively affecting

the rest of the economy

hence follows the Dutch disease of the

economy its semi-peripheral status and

not only economic but also political

dependence at least partial on importing

countries

we can

see in the Russian economy is a gas

export economy the gas industry is

coming at the expense of everything else

basically

also add here the historical political

context

it is no secret that the most stable and

well-fed years for the Russian ruling

class were the naughties

commonloft notes that at that time oil

and gas gave Russia an enormous profit

which however was not spent on the

development and modernization of other

sectors of the economy

which is not surprising because the

biggest profit for the capitalist in our

Market was in oil and gas production

and with all the losses for society as a

whole the capital naturally tended

exactly there

dissonance in understanding politics

we will probably discuss the reasons for

such a systemic rupture in leftist

attitudes later

for now what matters for us is the

concrete break in logic

commonwev's assumptions which are

correct and have become dominant do not

draw any conclusions at all

the economic determinant of the basis it

seems is in no way connected and in none

relation to the superstructure

so while an abstract conclusion that a

relatively Consolidated political system

also follows from a single dominant

sphere in the economy is rarely drawn

naturally in The Perennial attempt to

understand the irremovability of power

in the liberal sense of irremovability

then for example the fact that the

political regime as a weapon of the

bourgeoisie follows its own real

economic interests is not understood at

all

and the regime gravitates suddenly

towards stability and uninterrupted

operation of the pipe do you still

remember also the dominant industry and

the semiperipheral status

such a status in itself dictates

political attempts to preserve the

stability of markets including political

stability

the predilection for welfare pre-crisis

naughties and stability has already

become a meme nevertheless it is a

characteristic of the economic and

political interests of the Russian

ruling class

before analyzing the current situation

let us try to analyze the politics

before the war the politics that led to

the war

straight from Lenin's precepts

politics before the war

strange as it may seem West Russia

relations in the Northeast could be

characterized as friendly

the pipe is working steadily the crisis

has not happened yet and Russia has

ideas about Europe from Lisbon to

Vladivostok among other things

the economic crisis of 2008 started the

story

the undeniable drop in profits from the

main industry created political

instability which led among other things

to the bolognaire

nevertheless what matters to us is

Russia's attitude to the second maidan

in fascism Ukraine

we have already covered the maidan

itself and the intra-ukrainian specifics

of the political and Military

confrontation here

briefly it is worth noting the following

theses

in response to the Outburst of

chauvinism in Western Ukraine a movement

began in the south and east in

novorossia

it began in the entire territory from

Kharkov to Odessa

the Russian ruling class meanwhile

decided to return Crimea

the reasons were primary of a military

strategic nature

the emergence of a chauvinist

pro-western regime posed a threat to

military bases in Crimea and to

influence in the potential Black Sea

theater

there was no imperialist character to

the capture of Crimea due to the lack of

even the prospect of profit

that said the interests of the novocia

movement and

so he said when Russia took Crimea how

could it be imperialist there is no

fucking profit gain from it at all

those of the ruling class in Russia

aligned in Crimea

the crimeans wanted to return to their

country and the regime or state wanted

to secure a strategically important

point on the map

but the interests of the Russian

political regime and the novrosia

movement did not coincide anywhere else

except in Crimea

thus there was no reaction from the

regime to the mass killings in Odessa on

the 2nd of May and in marupal on the 9th

of May

there was also no reaction to the defeat

of the Russian spring in karku

moreover there is an interesting and

important case related to kharkiv that

reveals the situation of that hot year

local oligarchs Dobkin and Kearns back

at the dawn of the maidan supported the

antimedent movement that had gained

spontaneous popularity in kharkiv

but at some point they both go to Moscow

hoping after the Crimean example to get

guarantees and hope for cooperation with

an entry of Russian troops

sources say the answer was no

no one was going to enter kharkiv and on

their return dobka and jeeper abruptly

changed their rhetoric from anti-maiden

to we offer a United Ukraine Dobkin and

Kern's trip to Moscow against the

backdrop of the Russian spring

that's fucking crazy so there were local

and they thought

the Russian troops so they go to Russia

and they say hey can you give us some

guarantees that you're gonna

you know cooperate with us and not

destroy our class status and the Russian

government tells them no fuck you

we're not doing that oligarch shit

you're on your own

so they go when they take

the Kia of government side

against Russia because Russia said we're

not going to treat you like princes if

we come in so watch what fucking happens

in concave

as a result they allow right sector

gangs and Special Forces into the city

the masses who have taken the local

state so as a result not only do they

take the side of the Kiev regime

they realize that these pro-russian

elements

are not gonna

have their back so they bring in the

azov they bring in right sector they

bring in the Nazis just like Nazis have

always done in history

to be the thugs of the bourgeoisie the

ruling class the oligarchs the oligarchs

brought in azov

to terrorize

the pro-russian sentiment among the

population why because the oligarchs

went to Russia and they said hey

are you gonna give us assurances if you

come and come rolling in and they said

no we're not they said okay fuck you

then we're going to take Ukraine's side

or Kiev side and we're going to bring in

these Nazis to beat these pro-russian

people back into place

Mike is in I

let's go ahead and do this

hello

uh

uh

I don't know what's going on with your

mic but it's like uh it's really echoing

oh no no no way

oh my God it's like I don't know if you

got a voice changer or something but

it's like really

fun

thank you so much Boyd Brown appreciate

you man thank you so much

Russia has lost short-term profits

repeatedly in maintaining its

civilizational interests

all right

uh while he fixes it I think he left to

fix his mic

okay

hello

yeah hello

okay

um

first of all how are you

hi there's a really big Reverb like an

echo I don't know

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what the fuck

hold on I can't believe this

I cannot believe this what microphone

are you using or

I'm using like a computer computer mic

okay

uh mute the stream if you can

yeah

all right because there's still

all right well there's an echo and it's

kind of not very uh well we I guess

we'll just better than nothing so what

what did you want to debate about

um so why do you like so much like did

it genocidal Maniac you know he's like a

very insane insane man so

um

I was

I mean I'm not really a huge

I'm kind of neutral I think I kind of

appreciate some Pro Magisto sentiment

because he was just kind of this figure

of unity and

you know but I I'm not really a uh a man

justu guy I kind of

have a non-interventionist

position on that so where did you hear

that I was like this huge Ninjutsu guy

uh

uh I think he was from uh YouTube

he does it

yeah he's awesome I kind of relegate to

him

because he knows way more than me and

you know man just do

he kind of seems like

you know

the last time Ethiopia had a really

great leader

to me

yeah I understand it but this is like

you know like he will

killed a lot of people you know he um

like my father for instance you know he

was

it was really like very bloody you know

he was unnecessary very much

I mean I that that

that's definitely definitely possible

um would you want to debate a two about

this topic because he would probably

have more to say I'm not that

it was just the kind of the beginning

but like there's something much more

pressing on on that yeah we should

probably get to that because I'm not

really a huge game than just to just so

I heard I heard that um

I heard that like

Stalin was like some kind of people

I saw like a video where it's like uh

I'm saying that like Stalin was like set

up with like some 14 year old girl

there's no evidence for that

okay

um

someone is saying that you attended a

pride parade

in chat can you confirm hook who is

saying that

I mean like that's what they said like

they said you were in a pride parade you

know let's pull up the evidence let's

pull up the evidence

let's check it out

so

apparently uh

apparently I attended a uh a pride

parade Johnson

uh there's one flaw though and the flaw

it seems pretty obvious

is how how could I be this tall this guy

seems pretty tall it seems about six

foot fucking this guy unless he's like

five four or something five two which he

doesn't look like

I don't know I think this guy seems a

little too tall

to be me

okay

you agree

yeah but anyway like

fuck anyway like

I mean I agree that he has a beard and

he kind of has shadows in his eyes and

like I see the resemblance but as soon

as you go the neck down it's just kind

of you know and then he take into

account the height and it just

this does kind of look like Adam's a

year though

not gonna lie

there is some kind of atom to hear

uh vibe to this

but yeah this is definitely

something

I will say

so I think I also want to get into like

your hatred of uh lefties

I think they can be forgiven

yeah I mean I think you could say that

until it becomes personal you know and

when it becomes personal it's just like

you kind of have a different perspective

on it

yeah but like you know as Jesus said you

know like

like you know

like no matter what people do to you no

matter how much people hurt you and

stuff like that you know you have to

forgive them because you know if you

expect the God to forgive you for your

sins you know how can you not forgive

someone else

can you yourself not forgive someone

else you know

this is my opinion

um I have more photos from that parade

and look who was there Joe Sims was

there

is this from the same photo

this is like

this is crazy

they have a club they have a they have a

Haas clone they've created

a soy has it's a Bizarro version of Haas

that the cpusa has created

and it's not looking good guys it's not

looking good

Joe Simpson right here

I'm sorry I'm sorry for cutting you off

I think you know when what do you mean

by forgive because

because uh I think

Injustice has consequences you know and

I mean we can't talk about what those

are but it's like if people are scumbags

and they're evil or whatever it's like

you could say you forgive them in some

sense but does that mean you're gonna

let your guard down and kind of forget

about what kind of people they are

yeah I understand I understand

you know people have wronged me in the

past but you know you have to understand

like this is kind of all online you know

like you know you'll never meet these

people in real life you know I have I

have met them in real life and they're

just this grotesque

okay now

it's the big really big issue like the

biggest issue of all time

you can just

like run along and just

have sex with random big booty bitches

whatever and like not face any of the

repercussions for it you believe that

it's not inherently evil now it's not

disgusting which it is I was just kind

of wondering why you know

like what's up with that this is not

it's not good it's horrible you know

you know what I'll understand that I'll

understand that but uh

but so you're saying

big booty bitches that doesn't do

nothing for you so you're saying that's

not

one let me ask you a question if God

didn't if God

what

Jesus Christ nothing like the pleasure

you would get from a big booty bitch is

nothing compared to the glory you will

get from the worship of Jesus Christ

well look if God didn't want me to be

with big booty bitches why would he

create them and why would he make me uh

attracted to them

think about that

I understand but like

do you understand do you understand

do you understand

I'm going to tell you the truth the

truth is

if everyone if we lived in a completely

lock it down conservative Society where

everyone's covered up and you can't see

the big booty bitches you don't know

who's got you know you don't know who's

got anything you don't know nothing I

would agree with you but in this Society

can you blame a man

for living in this Society I mean

let me okay I'm not trying to get vulgar

but it's like

you really would turn it down

it's there it's like

you would turn it down that's what

you're saying if you had when I was weak

I lived in America you know there was a

lot of

you know gold and silver and all this

offerings for me but I have to remember

you have to remember that

like the glory of Jesus Christ is so

wonderful you know you can't leave it

behind you know you have to stay strong

you know and I've lost many battles I've

lost many battles you know and that's

what I'm saying it's not the I lose

battles and shit I'm human you know but

you know

I don't you think don't you think don't

you think it's better for these women to

be with a righteous man than uh

you know someone who

is like a Satanist is you are blessing

them with your

seed which may change their brain

chemistry to reevaluate their life

not all the time not all the time you

know but it's a possibility isn't it

you know there's many black people that

I met who say you know you can't turn a

hoe to a housewife I guess that's what

the black people say and I agree with

them

well let me tell you something

yeah if you if you

listen big booty bitches are out there

unavoidable on

irresistible

if you have the option most men do not

but if you have the option

how can you say no

that's what I'm at I'm just wondering

how do you say no you know what I mean

because it's like

it's not there it's out there it's out

there

and it's like it's your instinct as a

man now if Utah the kind of society we'd

like to live in I'd like to live in a

society where it wasn't so full of that

everywhere right but it is our Instinct

as men and if we

are part of the top five percent of men

who women get with it's like how can you

say no

if it's your instinct

not man's fault it's not my fault

blame the women don't blame the men

that's what I say don't blame the men

blame the women if women at all listen

if all women were modest and shit

you know then men would not be uh

you know

if they wouldn't be uh doing pre-marital

nothing but

I understand like you have to like look

at this time

psychological standpoint you know when

you keep you know validating their sin

and their evil they will continue to do

that sins and that evil you know and

they won't stop us so all I'm trying to

say listen all I'm trying to say is

trying to put this poetically I'm trying

to put this poetically I'm gonna tell

you what I'm trying to say all right

because people don't understand what I'm

saying and I'm trying to

I'm trying to explain this all right I'm

not saying you should drop everything

and start chasing bitches and everything

like really hard I'm just saying a man's

got to keep his game up to keep to be

sharp if you live in America if you

participate in this Society you have to

keep your game up now women change the

rules of the game when we're not all

these big booty bitches out here they're

changing the rules of the game and I'm a

man I have to adjust keep my game up

because look if you have no game

and you're just saying oh I'm too good

with these big booty bitches whatever

you just are coping because you have no

good game the only time you could ever

say I'm a righteous man who rejects the

Temptation is if your game is up and

then you have the option

and then you say no

but if they're twerking on you all this

kind of shit that's the only time you

can say no you can't be like Oh I'm out

here I can't even get any big booty

bitches so I'm resisting to Temptation

you're not resisting you're not

resistance to Temptation it's like what

a lot of people say about zerka who by

the way is resisting the Temptation if

you didn't know that zerka's resisting

the temptation but a lot of people

trying to critique zerka and I'm like

how can you critique someone when you've

never been in his shoes you never would

even have the option so how would you

even know you need a man needs to keep

his game up is what I'm saying it's a

struggle

look big booty bitches

create struggle for man it's like

it's a struggle it's pretty much look

big booty bitches

are creating

struggle and strife for men

that's the truth that's the truth

no listen when big Woody bitches are out

here twerking they're creating

a turmoil in your soul they're shaking

up the foundations because that's your

instinct that's how God made you as a

man God made you as a man attracted to

that so when big booty bitches are out

here it's working it's like

and you say we give in to Temptation

that's not our fault that's how we were

programmed by God they're creating

they're they're when they're shaking

their ass they're shaking the

foundations of our spirituality and we

have to keep our game up we can't just

be like Oh I'm not attracted to that of

course you are God made you that way

yes you deny your feeling of attraction

to a big booty bitch is a grave or sin

than to not give in to Temptation a man

who convinces himself he doesn't like

when a woman twerks a man who convinces

himself of that how long before he is no

longer straight ask yourself that

question a man who convinces himself

that he does not enjoy the fruits of

creation when these big booty bitches

are out here twerking a man who pretends

he don't enjoy that it's a greater verse

sin it's a Graver sin than uh giving in

to temptation is it even grave or sin

the real holy man

watches big booty pictures

look one last thing one last thing one

last thing a real holy man is looking at

these big booty bitches twerk and in

their soul they want it they want it so

bad we do want it and then says I am so

strong in my faith I must say no and but

they're shaking like my face is shaking

my faith is shaking listen if your faith

is not shaken you're not straight man

your faith has to be shaken and rattled

a little bit but if you're strong enough

and you resist I respect you but first

you need to acknowledge

that that is the purpose of life

that is rattling the foundation of who

we are as men

yeah

let's say otherwise

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I have been trapped by them all the time

you know I I am a student

that's the thing you have to stay strong

I'm saying it's easier said than done is

what I'm trying to say it's easier said

and done because

to deny ourselves

in the world we live it that's my view

it's just a cope now if you live in a

religious community if you live a holy

way of life and you don't have that

nonsense in your community

then you should put in jail anyone who's

trying to bring it in there so don't get

me wrong those who live a Pious life in

Pious communities that's an

that's a W for Humanity those people are

living great healthy human lives but I

am living in the belly of the Beast

degenerate America and

I can't just shut myself off because of

my you know I'm trying to build a huge

I'm trying to be in the world right I'm

not trying to

you know

listen listen the way I see it I'm a

victim the way I see it

God made me like big booty bitches so

I'm the victim I'm victimized everywhere

there's I'm getting twerked at

um feel bad for me I'm I'm instinctually

that's what I was put on Earth to be

attracted to

I understand what you're saying but

that's why I say you got to keep your

game up what do I need to keep your game

up

Don't Let It capture your soul don't let

it change your religion don't start

worshiping it but don't pretend you're

no longer a straight man

as straight men we are attracted to it

okay

I am I am attracted to them exactly okay

something

when I was in the middle exactly I was

wild enough I was well I was wild enough

I'll be honest all right but

it's the thing right you you grow from

it you grow you understand that it hurts

you now you must escape it that's listen

I'm trying to say this is my view my

view is

do not go out of your way to chase women

uh just for sex don't go out of your way

to do that don't start spending money

you know getting yourself into a pretzel

you know uh ruining your life but I'm

just saying as a straight man

very few of us can resist temptation

when we get twerked upon

and it's a it's an earthquake okay

very few men can resist that Temptation

and that's not our fault I don't think

that means we're weak I think what it

means is you act like you know women

just be working on men all the time you

know don't be a Christian that's true

it's that's a real thing you go to the

club but you might that's the real thing

decision you know listen listen

we need to live the fullest human life

we can

and that means we have to change our

society

uh because sometimes if you live in a

degenerate community

yeah it's not degenerate by the way a

sinful Community I would say sinful if

you live in a sinful community

and you start denying yourself the big

booty bitches

that's a greater sin

than giving in to temptation

and I'll tell you why because God made

us attracted to that for a reason

second of all

I know no why

now I'm being attacked why are you

attacking me what do I do

all right I'm being listen I I get

attacked I'm telling the truth I get

persecuted for it

cheeseburger at me all right

I'm getting attacked

I'm getting attacked for telling the

truth

this is

I'm getting attacked for telling the

truth all right I get persecuted for

what I say are you getting persecuted

for saying this shit

me yeah no no I don't get I mean I get

persecuted in America because you know

all the people are like would you I

cannot believe you're not you know

having sex with all these bitches I'm

like at least my life is fulfilling at

least

I have the word of God in Me At least I

go to Christian I go to church all the

time no no I'm saying you live in

Ethiopia

yes I do yeah you're living The Virtuous

life I would never deny that you're

living a holy life

and I would never tell you oh Ethiopia

needs bitches who twerk and shit that's

not what I'm saying I'm not saying that

I'm saying keep your Society traditional

keep it classy keep it like that and we

should try to make our society like that

I'm not gonna lie I'm just saying as an

individual I'm a man God gave me certain

instincts some of those instincts

includes

this thou shall be shaketh upon

big booty bitches Shake if they ass

that's what that's how God made us you

understand there's nothing we can do

about it that's

it's a passion it's a it's a passion

it's a passion for divine creation it's

a passion for divine creation sometimes

is it so wrong for me to say that big

booty bitches make me feel grateful to

God and I look at that and I go

I look at that and I say glory to God

no that's what it's about

that's what you're saying so you you

don't you that's that's not a real thing

yes

so when we when we look at that we go oh

my God why do we do that

I know but like

so in Ethiopia right now

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you know according to hidase

there are people in the club there are

people in the club right now I'm not

endorsing that I'm not endorsing that

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I mean you know they can't even speak

romantic they're speaking English

they're getting all this this knowledge

from the West you know the West is

clubbed you know no I agree I agree I

agree

I agree I'm not denying that I agree

with that

listen I agree with you on everything

I'm just saying when it comes to my own

personal private life

and I'm out here walking around and

that's what I see

I can't just be like

oh I'm above that I'm not above that

you know I'm not

I'm not above that

it's like usually like in Islamic terms

you know the Quran says to lower your

gaze for a reason that's for a reason

you know yeah but I yeah but

yeah I Am Lord I am lowering it that's

the thing I am lowering it

all right so but you know when I I am

lowering it you know what I'm saying it

is being lowered

it seems that you're being a little bit

nervous you're kind of thinking if

you're saying like I

just realized I just realized that I am

lowering my gaze you know what I mean so

you seem kind of nervous you know

but like it's okay I understand now

listen I'm gonna sum it up it's gonna be

really simple all right I'm gonna sum it

up is here really simple anybody who

cannot see what I'm talking about

is lying and is wood fold under

Temptation or worse because you should

not introduce immodesty to a modest

Society but if you already live in an

immodest Society trying to create an

island of modesty just in your own

personal lifestyle is a cope unless you

go everyone in chat who disagrees with

me go fucking live in a religious

community and then you can talk if you

live in this Society you can't say shit

if you live in a religious Enclave

you're good right because we're not just

individuals we're also social beings

it's this issue is not just an

individual one God made man and woman

that means it's a communal thing it's

about Community if you just put one man

in a community full of immodest women

you cannot blame the man for following

the instincts given to him by God

period

it's not his fault

no to be honest with you I think you

know that you are like this stems from

some kind of jealousy of my of my uh

will to withstand the power of big booty

businesses because it's no you don't

have that will you just told me you live

in no you don't have that will cause you

just told them that you live in a

community that's not full of

uh immodesty and shit

you live yeah you don't live in Miami

when you live in my

stronger Willis all right no no no I

lived in America for seven years yeah

and then why did you leave why did you

leave America

because this country is going crazy you

know I can't yeah yeah yeah so if you

still lived here in America you wouldn't

be so strong-willed

no but like for seven years no probably

like three years I was not strong-willed

you know yeah but it was it was taking

such a toll on you you had to go to

Ethiopia was it not no no it was taking

such a toll on you you had to fleece you

had to flee or else you would have given

into temptation

for the next four years of my stay in

America I rejected all big booty bitches

and then why did you leave

I left

because

I'm not gonna lie to you

yeah

the earthquake exactly exactly

exactly you just said it

you just admitted it

you just said it

no but you have to understand no you

just proved my point you just proved my

point I rest my case I rest my case

because

let me tell you something Mike Mike Mike

no no listen listen Mike I like you I

think you Mike

are a high value male

that's why I suspect right because you

had to go to Ethiopia because any high

value male could not stay in America

with all these earthquakes all right but

there's a lot of people in my chat

there's a lot of bitch ass people trying

to attack Circa who are low value males

who cope with their inability to get

bitches by pretending like they are more

righteous than thou and I don't think

you're one of those people but there are

people like that

in the conservative movement or whatever

who are like oh I'm so above Temptation

I just have zero gain Mike has game all

right guys don't sit here and pretend

Mike is not a dude who has game right of

course he's got a lion for a profile

picture dude is Ethiopian he went back

to his homeland in Ethiopia this dude

Mike's got game right if you don't have

game you have no ability

to say that you are above all the

degeneracy if you live in a immodest

Society

I don't know why everyone is in chat

spamming for Kareem to come on I don't

want Kareem to come on

yes he may be the Imam as infrared but I

do not want him to come on let me speak

more come on what's wrong with you

anyway

um

yeah cause I understand you know big

booty business is just too much but like

you have to stay strong you know you

have to like I think maybe you need to

accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior

all right all right Mike Mike not

everyone can go live in a modest

Community like you did for those of us

trying to make change America now I

agree with you we shouldn't be chasing

that's what I said he shouldn't Chase

but I'm saying you can't judge a man

can't judge a man

for giving in to earthquakes

that's all I'm trying to say should you

try and say oh yeah

uh you know

um you shouldn't create immodesty when

there otherwise isn't any of course I

agree with you but

that's what I'm trying to say without

game

if you live in an immodest society as a

man

it's fair game

as an individual

now let me tell you something

that's what I'm trying to say because so

many people don't understand this shit

especially people in my community don't

get this because a lot of people in my

community they're individualists they

think that religion is just about an

individual doing something when it's

this it's a communal thing if you're

truly a holy man you live in a holy

Community if you're a Pious Muslim then

you do everything in your power to live

in a Pious Muslim Community if you're a

Pious Christian you do everything in

your power to live in a Pious Christian

Community

why would you be living in Miami if

you're a Pious religious conservative

right you wouldn't be if you were a

Pious religious conservative your

environment would also reflect that you

wouldn't have an environment of just a

bunch of the modest people all the time

unless it wasn't your choice right

so that's the thing

yeah all right it was a good

conversation but it's about to be my

prayer time and everybody is saying that

you know Kareem wants to come on so you

know after I'm done praying I'll

probably come on again

you know because I doubt he will be able

to you know

I doubt

whatever all right I'm gonna leave all

right yeah all right see you later Mike

see you later

all right

all right so uh

yeah

so we so why is everybody saying I'm not

bringing no one out all right

um we can have another time with Kareem

and

I don't know

this was with Mike all right

simple as that

nah y'all check y'all listen

a lot of you guys worry me all right if

you can't understand the point I'm

getting across a lot of you guys really

really worry me because

I wonder if infrared didn't ban anime

how many of you guys would be anime

right toy degenerates because what I see

in this chat it kind of worries me

honestly

it worries me like if we didn't

explicitly ban that Degen shit how many

of you guys are low-key secret D Jets

right

that's what worries me I'm not gonna lie

it worries me

I can only pray I can only pray

I can really only pray but it's like

look at the online conservative movement

and then you tell me that's Holiness and

piousness no it's not I would rather be

a healthy straight man who likes big

booty bitches than be a fucking furry or

an anime degenerate

you know what I mean

I'm not saying be a sex addict or some

shit I'm saying as a healthy Normal Man

you know what I'm saying I'm not saying

extremism everyone wants to be an

extremist because you want remember what

I told you on Kik about extremism

a lot of you guys who have those

extremists Tendencies things so much

Violet Mike gave you your first sale and

now you're coping a lot of you guys who

love that extremism

um

I worry about you guys you know you guys

are you guys weird me the fuck out not

gonna lie you guys weird me the fuck out

cause honestly like we're in person we

we go to a fucking uh meeting or

something or like like I'm tanky sexual

you kind of worried me you know it's

like sometimes I feel you are not like

normal

well-adjusted normal people

you're just like I don't know you got

this weird thing going on

know what I mean

a lot of you guys who are on circus shit

attacking zerka because of his lifestyle

and shit sometimes you all worry me I'm

not gonna lie

I'm not gonna lie

all right

you guys got to realize this is a

ruthless fucking world this is a

ruthless world

and uh if you live in a ruthless

trying to tell you something it's wisdom

but most of you guys are not going to be

able to absorb this wisdom so let me

tell you something this is a ruthless

fucking world when it comes to privacy

nobody's your comrade I promise you your

comrade is gonna try to take your bitch

there is no shortcut to dealing with

the dog eat dog struggle in America at

least there's no fucking shortcut it's a

dog eat dog country no fucking shortcut

and it is ruthless out there you know

what I mean when I say it's important to

have game I'm not talking about cringe

pickup artist lines talking about you

need to be able to have respect

you need to be able to not carry

yourself like you a little bitch either

you walk around outside

and you acting like a little bitch and

then women are laughing at you you think

that's because you're a holy man no it's

not

only when women want you and then you

say no does it count remember that

if you're a fucking loser

who's coping about being a loser by

saying oh it's because I'm a holy man no

it's not you're not putting any effort

into yourself you're not going to the

gym you're not making yourself a leader

you're not being a confident person

you're not carrying yourself with your

nuts hanging you're walking around like

a little twerp like a little bitch and

then what do you know you know that it's

like these are the same anti-social

people that end up though what's the

whole femboy thing what's the whole

furry thing what's all that anime stuff

it's that stupid stupid bullshit

you guys gotta realize

you need to understand

it's a dog eat dog world

that's why I like to say when it comes

to politics don't mix that with people's

private life there's a difference

between degeneracy

and uh you just play or hate a lot of

you guys when it comes to zerka even

when it comes to me y'all just play or

hate that's what you're doing you're not

being a holier than now your player hate

you understand

it's a doggy dog world I'm always trying

to tell you guys that it's a doggy dog

world for real I'm real about that shit

I'm real about that shit

I'm being real about that shit

some dumb fucking my Discord I want to

be clear says averting your eyes from

Big Booty Bitches doesn't mean you

become a furry it does when you start

trying to impose that on others then

keep it to yourself you fucking

righteous Jesus Christ you're such a

Jesus Christ then shut the fuck up keep

it to yourself when you look at another

man looking at Big Booty Bitches and you

feel the fucking need to say something

you are a furry I'm sorry I don't know

what to tell you you are insecure about

your own shit so you're knocking on

another man

dude just admit you you have you Harbor

resentment that uh

men are getting more women than you

because if if you didn't have that

resentment you'd shut the fuck up

about it

you know what I mean

if you didn't have resentment you just

keep it to yourself oh I averted my gaze

congrats

keep it to yourself

otherwise yeah you are a furry 100

you're trying to turn your righteousness

into some inauthentic virtue signaling

uh and you're getting too close to home

is the problem like you are talking

about something that's your own private

business that's not society's business

it's degenerate

period to get so extreme where you have

to start being like

hey has

I saw you with some women the other day

yeah how dare you don't you nah you keep

it to yourself motherfucker it's a doggy

dog world

what I mean I will be damned before I

get to the fucking moment that I create

a fucking community

where

and that's the key thing keep it private

you know I will be damned where I create

a fucking Community people do that

cringe shin

I'm tanky sexual

nah I'm not in a I'm not a I'm not in a

poly tool with you guys I'm sorry

you know what orange do get the fuck out

of my chat I'm Banning the orange Duke I

don't give a fuck

and that you know why I'm Banning you

orange dude because I don't want to

roast you that's the fucking problem I

could sit here and scam you guys into

telling you oh all this stupid shit you

want to hear all those fucking people

are hypocrites

oh he's already yeah he's already

fucking hit him fuck that guy

because I don't wanna I know what you

look like orange dude don't fuck if I'm

tell me I

was acting like a boy cause I know what

you look like

and let me tell you you don't seem like

you got a lot of options

yeah

don't be talking shit to me about that

shit

talking about who's a man who's a boy

how the fuck would you know

I don't think your DMs are getting

flooded with you know what I mean

until your DMs get flooded with bitches

you're attracted to and then you say no

I'm blocking all of them see that's what

Circa does ironically Circa doesn't get

with any of these bitches he just is

with them on stream and you guys still

give him shit

I'm taking drunk aside fuck this stupid

cringe filthy Frank made fun of people

that brag about being high on life it's

not like Behavior yeah exactly

it's exactly it

it's exactly it

see you guys want to know what have

propelled me into like huge Fame and I

would have gotten the biggest Community

ever if I pretended to be an inso oh I'm

just an insult like you guys

I'm totally just if I pretended to be

like that I'd be so much more popular

but I create

I crush the parasociality of this

community I tell you no you're on your

fucking home I'm not here to walk you

through it you're on your fucking own

this is a doggy dog fucking world

damn I'm real for saying that shit you

know what I mean imagine if I was like

oh come we're all in it we're all in

this together

we all we all are we all hate all those

women because they don't want to give us

any attention We're All in This Together

imagine if I was how popular I'd be if I

was like that right

I'm telling you no

I don't know you like that

now I'm trying to build something

politically I am not trying to build up

alternative sexual lifestyle with a

bunch of other men on the fucking

internet I'm sorry to tell you but that

is suss as fuck

and anyone who says otherwise is full of

shit

and yeah orange you want to talk shit to

me dude I could roast the fuck out of

you

don't have me talking about fucking your

spanking activities I don't want to see

I'm not gonna get into it it's just like

don't come on throwing shit on me I'm

not going near you don't come near me

you know

everybody's entitled to their own shit

privately period

like we we joke about the incel thing

but like

holy shit you guys gotta fucking get

mature

can I tell you something every single

incel on the internet who's like oh I'm

an insult with you if they have more

than 100 concurrent viewers they're not

an insult I promise

they're just lying to you

they're all fake cells every influencer

pretending to be an info and so probably

a fake cell you don't have

nobody with the means is an inso

think about it how can you be

involuntarily celibate if you have clout

it's there's never been a such thing in

history all right

so anybody who's trying to be like Oh

I'm just like you guys I'm just like

they're fucking lying to you

period

but thank you so much client us is based

pushing your private sex life on other

people is perverse

exactly

thank you so much Clyde I appreciate you

I could try to give you good advice so

some good advice I would give you is

don't be chasing women

that's advice I give you guys right

don't be out here chasing

and ruining your life because who gives

a fuck right yeah find someone marry

them period end it right but I'm just

saying everyone's in a different place

in their life can't be judging nobody

Kevin doesn't any other man thank you so

much net advantage

is wearing designer clothes doing bumps

of K with models cause your cool artists

the same as being an internet weirdo

who's addicted to pee in their mother's

hoarders Den

I don't know what you're asking thank

you so much 50. and yeah it's not the

same I'm sorry it's not but people

pretended it's not you know

um

I'm conservative when it comes to you

ask me what advice or whatever but it's

like you know what I hate guys I just

hate when people

virtue signal what if I am a

conservative guy right now I mean

you know what I am

I have one girlfriend I'm in a committed

relationship with one girlfriend I'm not

you think I'm you think I'm at you know

maybe that was 2021 or some of 2022 but

that's not me I'm not doing that shit

you know but I just hate this fucking

idea where

you should be thinking about other men

taking like if you are faced with the

ability to get with

women like high value whatever high

quality don't ever let other men be a

factor in that decision it's between you

yourself and God nothing else

no fucking community of men

should be informing your fucking

decisions about anything and anytime I

see other dudes trying virtue signal or

police other dudes Behavior

when it comes to that

sus as fuck because no other man should

be part of your sexuality

that's a nuke I'm dropping on the chat

if you're a straight man there are zero

men in the world

who should have anything to do with your

own sexuality and that's a nuke I drop

on you chat cope about it there's

nothing you could say there's nothing

you can say there's nothing you could

say there is nothing you could say

there's nothing you can say there's

nothing you can say fucking blown the

fuck out blown the fuck out all these

fucking people

talking all this bullshit there is no

man who should ever have anything to do

with your own if you're a straight male

with your sexuality period fucking nuke

I rest my case that's a damn that's see

I always have to find the right ways to

describe what I'm trying to say and that

just knocks it out of the fucking Park

okay

that just knocks it out of the fucking

Park

does this apply for women

no what I'm saying

look listen

first of all

no one should be going out of their way

to shame women

for anything

I just I believe in the kind of like

boycott thing like

Ben porn ban only fans if women want to

go be sleeping around and shit you can

like

make the decision and say I will never

want to marry you

okay

and that's up to you but like I don't I

don't believe in uh harassing random

women because of the choices they're

making but I still don't think it's the

same and I'll tell you why it's not the

same

it's actually pretty simple because

you've heard it before

right like

you've heard it before it's actually

really simple

for women to

uh have a bunch of casual sex

that is not like uh having game that

doesn't mean they're keeping their game

up that's not an expression of power and

willpower

it's the opposite with the mat right for

a man to stay celibate takes no fucking

effort for a woman to do that takes a

lot of fucking effort right so I think

it's like as simple as that right

they're not the same just because of

that reason

it's as simple as that in general right

this is how it works guys people don't

understand this you can be Prejudice

about someone you can judge them

silently I'm not telling you don't judge

people silently I do it a lot right to

inform your overall opinion of them

right

but

the only time it becomes so bad where

you're like you know what we're gonna

exclude you from an organization is when

it's so public so notorious

and so abnormal that it's an

embarrassment

in the eyes of the general public and

when it gets to that point you are

justified in being like you know what

you're a furry who wears a furry costume

this is very bizarre and

we we don't allow this sorry like

that's where you can be like yeah you

know kick kick rocks

so what's my takeaway message for you my

takeaway message is

this is a dog eat dog world don't ever

let anyone tell you otherwise

I would get way more

rewarded if I told you otherwise I'm not

telling you that

I would get way more rewarded if I told

you

that uh

you can cope with the fact you're alone

in this world at the end of the day I

can't all right Haze Aldean

is a different man than you are

I'm not saying better I'm that's not

what I'm saying different I'm saying I'm

saying different

like

that's a whole different dude you know

what that means that means

that's the neighbor

there is more that separates two human

beings

than what separates you

from some fucking Galaxy on the other

side of the universe

that's how much separation there is

now let me tell you something I want to

be clear about what I'm trying to say

you going out of your way

to attack random women that got nothing

to do with you that's cringe right but

this is where it counts when it's a

political disagreement

when they attack you first calling you

names and shit everything's fair game

you know me I would never condone that

uh or on YouTube but I'm saying

someone talks shit to you everything for

everything's fair game that's uh

that's all I'm saying if somebody talks

shit to you everyone is for everything

is fair game literally everything and

you don't need me to tell you that

you don't need me to tell you that all

right

thank you so much great appreciate you

man thank you one of the best parts of

Trad masculine exactly not giving a damn

about other men's private business

that's what it is

that's exactly what I'm talking about

that's exactly what I'm talking about

man

that's what I'm talking about

we are this society's too socialized

like sometimes I worry about the

gorillas you know everything's too

socialized like at what point are you

I'm doing a struggle session right now

because you guys need to hear this shit

at what point are you guys gonna get

onto the wavelength of

a yo gorillas uh

what do you think about the way I take a

shit is anything private anymore

is anything probably are you guys so

socialized you gotta attach social

meaning to every fucking aspect of your

life

you have to attach that's a cult dude

listen are these gorillas making you

money

how many of you you guys get together

and be like instead of talking about

your fucking private lives be like you

know what let's make some money together

I have this strategy you have let's put

our brains together let's find a way to

make fucking money you don't think I

want you guys to get rich I want you

guys to get Rich As Fuck you want to

know why

because then I get money because you

donate to me see everyone wins so how

often do gorillas keep that same energy

you want to be

so socialized except when it comes to

making money you guys don't like making

money together right

everyone loves being so socialized on

every private fucking thing except

making money

that's crazy

that's fucking crazy

that shit's crazy

I can't comprehend that I don't

understand that

I don't know where that comes from see

this needs to be a community of gangster

crabs Mr Krabs gangsters we are gangster

Communists we are Deng Xiaoping

Communists we are not this kind of

bullshit that's see that's what the

leftists are doing I just put it

together the leftists are the ones

trying to regulate and control

everyone's sexuality and private life

and shit the pronouns this all that

Tyler all that fucking weird bullshit we

need to be the gangster communist

community that says I don't give a fuck

about any of that shit let's make some

money man

that's what I'm saying

that would be so sick if you guys

started making money imagine that

mentality

that'll teach you everything

oh we're gonna start making money

we don't give a fuck about that that's

your business that's my business we're

making money together let's make it a

business

like

business like gangster mentality

business like gangster mentality who the

fuck is this guy

do you want to debate what we had in

mind what the fuck are you talking about

what what do we have in mind what are

you talking about

hello

hello can you hear me yeah I can hear

you

all right no we uh I messaged you the

other day about fading imperialism and

American hegemony and other things I

don't know if you want to do it now no I

I you gotta say that again dude what did

you say

yeah let me find the message exactly no

just just get say it with more clarity

your mic sucks

American hegemony imperialism foreign

policy well what did you want to debate

about

so I want to ask you a couple of

questions and I want to see how you

respond to these questions because they

genuinely intrigue me

see I I'm open to being the

fucking questions you want me to answer

your questions then sign up for my

fucking patreon you get a guaranteed

questions you can ask me that I will

answer to you otherwise don't fucking

call in my show Cube trying to ask me

some fucking questions all right people

out here acting like I'm uh

you know I don't know what the fuck

okay there's plenty of people that have

questions

not everyone gets to come on and hijack

the whole fucking stream okay

so

you

you just fucked this whole thing up all

right

by the way let me tell the gorillas

something since we're on this cringy

fucking topic right

let me tell the gorillas something

I mean this from the bottom of my heart

I'm gonna tell you guys something

listen

I will always help out my brother I will

always help out my gorillas you guys

don't even know shit right

if I ever if I ever came across a woman

and she was like oh

uh I like I'm kind of interested in this

dude and it's a gorilla and you know you

know how much I'm gonna talk you up you

know how much I'm gonna

do you a solid I'm not gonna be this

bitch ass player hating as fucking bitch

ass energy I will do you a solid man

that's the mentality we should have

that's the mentality we should have

you know what I mean

I will do you a solid

and I do do that

you want to know how many times somebody

came up to me and they were like I'm not

naming names because I don't even

remember when this was but there was

like yohaz you know this guy in your

community

is uh getting with this girl

and then I was like why is that a

problem is it is it a

is it affecting anybody is it is it uh

being publicly posted is it so no I

found this out through this private chat

this I don't give a fuck dude congrats

for them

you know what I mean I like seeing that

hat

see that's how I that's how I am

yo you know this dude and this girl are

I said thank God for it man

bless that man

bless that man just keep it private no

problem

don't be shitting up the Discord with a

bunch of

inappropriateness

but in your private life God bless you

man

yeah that's womanly Behavior you know

that's some bullshit

all right guys we're gonna have to wrap

this up

uh because it's late it's late but I

gave you a four hour stream four hour

and 20 minute stream that's a long

stream all right

oh there's one thing I want to address

all right the Trump business situation

apparently there was a leaks that said

Trump wanted to invade Mexico and I

tried to find the source and I don't

think I I have questions right because

amlo is one of the only guys recently

who spoke up against Trump's

indictment and what I'm thinking is is

the media trying to drive a wedge

because where does that Source come from

from Trump wanting to invade Mexico so

I'm not denying it entirely if it's true

that Trump wants to invade Mexico

then we are going to fully say fuck the

Trump campaign in 2024. if he makes it

his platform that he wants to invade

Mexico fuck him

you know

I will be the first to come and say yeah

this shit is a this shit is done right

but um

I looked at the

leak and it it says oh Insider sources

say doesn't seem credible and it seems

awfully convenient because amlo is one

of the only International politicians

speaking in on Trump's behalf and then

so I I want to wait and see the response

from the Mexican Government when it

comes to that so-called leak you know

yeah I for now I don't believe it but it

may be true and if it is true then uh

we'll talk about it all right

yeah I would support Mexico in that case

easily right

anyway guys I'll see you guys tomorrow

for a kick stream we're gonna do a kick

tomorrow because we're gonna do we're

gonna be rotating it bye guys see you

tomorrow

bye