Communists in the Heat of Battle
2021-03-06
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shot up man shot up
yeah as you can see with that little mistake i just made with the muted in you know i'm kind of slurring words and shit
guy's got to bear with me
i've only gotten two hours of sleep
and total probably eight
six hours of the past two days
yesterday i got three hours toda i got towo
you know i'm say but i'm still kicking i'm still kicking we still got that energy
you know i'm saying
and you know i'm saying we're still going to be that super sciion levels of energy you know i'm saying no given up
aino giving up ao sying i'm not screaming today because i'm too tired a on doing that kind of bush we're going to be on our roll every single day for the whole week you know i'm saying we're going to be on a roll
you know i'm saying
so that's what it is that's what it is
you know see the i might give up on im little too tired guys i can't scream today
do that's what we're about
think that's whre we're abot
maybe i take some days off
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we have a debate scheduled
two weeks in the making i mean not in the making but like we scheduled two weeks ago
a guy named joela
ok
he's a thing guys i don't really know who this guy is i don't you know we're going to be debating about
but
here's why i need you
the chack
and you in the disc
people in the disk were listening
if he brings up facts
just give me the article in the discord and give me the
context
so i can look at it myself
in real time
i need you guys's help for that shit you know
because i need time to like you know sit down and investigate what is being talked about
so if he brings up like an article or some facts or something like that
i need you guys to help me
so we know we're talking about here right because
remember like when dylan burns and all them just throwing shit at me from out of nowhere and i'm like
what the fuck are you talking about dude
i need to sit down and investigate this independently
yeah tomorrow so guys listen
to i don't know if we're playing copyrighted music with that intro but starting tomorrow
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look way more careful from here on forward
you know
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it's not the end of the world if i'm perman bent
but let's try to not get band on twitch you know
so
we're going to mod more people
especially on twitch
and uh
yeah
yeah we're going to eet to show on the road
but before we get into all that guys
even if we have debates and shit lined up
what do we do in the beginning of our streams just out of curiosity i'm kind of a little bit hazy you know i'm sa and i have' been getting out a lot of sleep
so i need someone to refresh
my jogged memory
what do we do in the beginning of our dreams
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we check
the red it's we check the red you understand we check
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we do it in the beginning of every stream
we check the ready guy is it we check
the read it as we do in the beginning of every single stream
and in case you aren't
familiar
case wre familiar we will go over everything on the read it in the beginning of our streams we will cover it all the love the hate every single thing the only rules we enforce on our read it
ire read its rule
it's kind of how we operate on platforms we usually only enforce the platforms rule
you understand
so if you want to go talk some shit on the red it will read your post
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four hundred members
unbelievable
four hundred members
can you believe it
can you believe it
dialectical vegan egoist shut the fock up
i feel like banning you actually
i've seen you talk shit dialectical veagan egoist i've been seeing you talk shit
i've been seeing you talk shit boy
don't be acting like you don't talk shit iven't seen you talking that shit dialectic go vegan ego is
i see you in that het
i see you right now i've seen you've been talking that shit
seeing you've been talking that shit
allright guys
let's
ake this read it out
yeah my eyes
yeah
i mean you know what we still got that high energy you know i'm saying
we don't take any days off we still got that high energy
still got that high energy
still got that high energy
let's go
let's go
all right c p is sing twenty thirty six
yeah nice shit change it up with b guys
only i have a culture personality
make others have a cullt to personality why only i have one
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what is this
i felt obliged to stay with the grillas
i will die for the gorillas shut out the old gz you know i'm saying die for the gorillas you know i'm saying
up in our chat because we're the guerrillas you know i'm saying the guerrilla army
you know i'm saying
this is
this is our allies our true allies you know i'm saying are these fake allies we got
these gatekeepers and fake fucking people
talk and shit down on us because we're opening the gates
right open
right open we're flinging those gates open and the gatekeepers are really really salty and but heard about it but that's ok
we got a lot of gatekeepers come you guys have the law of the gatekeepers ready
first you grow big
then the gatekeepers will come to you and they'll act like they're your friend
but little do they know
you're making it more accessible to lots of people which is make which is devaluing their standing
so they start hating you they start conspiring against you know we're dealing with these old guard fake m l s and fake tankyes
type of fake old guard people these fucking gatekeepers
they don't like what's going on with infrared
even though we're the ones standing up to bread tube and shit
they don't like what's going on they don't like how we're actually becoming powerful in shit
and i'm saying
but were those barbarians at the gate
were the barbarians at the gate
you understand
these gatekeepers don't like was's going on with infrared they want to shut us down
just like bread tube
you see how deep the conspiracy goes
bread tube
he's fake ammals and tankees they're all together
they're all allied
they all
two sides of the same coin
that's what happened with these gatekeepers you know i'm saying
he's fake
priests
these elders fake elders
not real elders
trying to gatekeep us and shit
because they don't want m l to be on the map
they don't like a marxism leninism in the age of multipolarity they're all about that marxism leninism in the age of unipolarity because they're american chauvinists
they don't want to see in they don't want to see the brain grow
because they hate normis they don't want the people they don't like the big people they don't like the big people's power they don't like the big people's influence
they want to
gatekeep
so it's only for them
because they are the cokolocks
of the tanky sphere cause they're warding grain
even though if they would be open to industrializing
there would be boundless wealth in a rising
tide lifts all
but they prefer to hoard the grain that they have now
i don't warn my brain and warn my brain
oh
that's how it is with these fucking fake tanky bitches
and trust none of m
ain't trust none of em you know i'm saying
he's gatekeepers
there's two factions
of the left
i don't care what they call themselvess only two factions
doesn't matter you call yourself an m l or if you're a jimmy dor fan doesn't matter there's only two factions ready
you're the type of faction on the left who's going to be open in the gates and who's up for this new political realignment
and is going to expand
the meaning of leftism and rediscover the meaning of leftism
or you're a gatekeeper as bitch who's a coolock thriving and growing fat
upon the poverty and misery of the left and its failure bread tube and these fake mels are allt together on that one faction
and were the other faction us caleb jimmy dore
all those people
we're in this to expand
expand socialism
we ain't here a gatekeep
we're here to put ourselves out there
give new meaning you know i'm saying
these gatekeepers you know i'm saying trying to stop us
they going to stop us
infrared vers the world how about that
infrared vers the world
you understand
i never trusted these people i know how the gatekeeping dialectic works i know the law of the gatekeeping
you either with the new wave
you either with the new rising tide
are you going to be drowned by it in a tsunami
i don't care who the fuck you are
you choose aside
ain't no fend sitting
you either with this rising tide
or are you going to be drowned and swept away
ain't no such thing
let me tell you something
m ls in the west
bin clownin
been clowning for decades
been fucking clowns for decades
i've been hearing shit someone telling me
that the pace usa and c pusa disavow me i don't give a fuck
think i give a fuck
they need us more than we need them
where about the c p usa twenty thirty six
not c pusa twenty twenty one
we these gatekeepers
c p u s a twenty thirty six the big people's power the big c p u s a
all these fake gatekeepers
trying to shut us down
smerarus is transfobing on his ship
all these fucking smear tactics
because they're fucking scared of us they're just as scared of us as bread tub is
because they're fake gatekeeping leftists
there want they're scared of losing their spreds so special position as the gatekeepers
fake leaders of the left
what kind of fuckin leaders of the left
have led the left to such a sorry falking position of misery and failure
those are the leaders of the left right now i don't give a fuck about the p c usa or even the c pusa they want to start talking shit about me
i'll take your brand from you bitch
i don't fuk i need you
you're not worthy of that brand
you're not worthy of that brand
so called c p we s
ben nothin but a shill for the democrats
i'll take that brand we're going to revive that brand we're going to breathe new life into that brand and we're stoking interest in you c pu s a
we're stoking newfound interest in your party
you understand we're the ones doing it
you cannot stop this tsunami from happening
you cannot quell this tide we infrared are rising we're going to become huge and we're putting your brand back on the map but don't for a falking second thinks this means
that your old guard
and all that shit is just going to is going to stay in their comfortable position we're going to have drolls of people coming into that c p usa and they're going to take over that fucking party
people who listen to our show
get stop this fucking tide
you can't stop us you understand
think you can stop us you fucking can't
this is our works
oh you know how it works notw did you still spread in newspapers and bullshit like that right and you want to disavow us
you want to disassociate with us and condemn us
oh but who's the one who has the means of communication ah why don't you make a fucking youtube channel and beat infrared then you can stop us and shut us up but we know how media works in this day and age we know about how alexandria ocostio cortez
only has a fucking name
because karu kulinski
and senkuieger whatever funded her
and created an adver that went viral
ah but you don't know how it works now did you because you guys are dogmatic
you don't know this new era
you don't know this new era that we're living in
you still liveing in that dogmatic past and you want to disavow infrared only fuck and reason all these people are having newfound interest in c pusa is because of our fuck and show
and that's not going to stop
you understand are people going to take over the c p s say not on my orders i'm not telling anybody to do anything
it's just the natural consequence of what's going to happen
you gatekeepers not going to survive
you're not going to survive this red tsunami that we're bringing up
you're not going to survive this red wave
that were conjuring up from the sea
this angry sea this angry river rising
you're not going to quell it
you're not going to quell it
it's pronounced ogre
whatever
they think they're going to quell this tide of infrared oh we disassociate with infrared because they don't censor people for iological reasons on their discord
see how far it's going to get you in this new multipolar age of ours
fucking nowhere
buck in nowhere
these party bureaucrats
that want to shit on us
and disassociate with us this fake gatekeepering old guards
this red tsunami is not going to be quelled
they can't stop
c p usa twenty thirty six is in the chat c p usa twenty thirty six c p us a twenty thirty six
c p usa twenty thirty six
our brand is more powerful
our brand
is more powerful
then that decrepit
roed in
wasting away
dinosaur party
that they have established now
they want to disassociate with infrared
don't get it twisted
we the ones given you new found power and strength
in vitality
you ain't given us shit
we're just taking your brand
because you don't own that brand
you don't fuck and own that brand
you don't own the brand of c p usa it's not yours
it don't belong to you
you betrayed it
with all the democrat shilling in shit
going to make that c pus into something new
it's going to become something new
it's going to become something new
he's asking to be dominated
ok lead you dumb bitch talk and shit in my chat
heyy leak you want to know who gets dominated
you
because i just timed your bitg chess out
enjoy time out
enjoy that time out
so you don't get it twisted let's continue this read
what is this
guys that's what they're trading trade w all those videos we have to do something have to do to a debate if you challenge me to debate
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you know what i wish i could fuck it bout this twice
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guys that's what they're trading trade w all those videos we have to do something have to do it seem to respond to this to a debate if you challenge me to a debate
this
dude
who the fuk made this first of all who the fuck made this who made this shit
who did i've never heard of you who made this
what the fug
yeah exactly he gives a paragraph fucking justifying everything biden does now
this fucking mike stand i know
this is why you should vote for biden
yup the lib dialogue tree here we go
oh yeah i did see this
i don't want to keep giving this guy klout
but i
is it here
i just found it interesting that
he announced one hundred scigns campaign
this guy literally thinks he's the american mouse
he literally thinks he's an american
i am announcing the hundred signs campaign this will go down in history i fellow cuckler we'll go down as the one who announced a new revolutionary campaign it's going to change
buckan idiot
why would you do this when you have the internet
do you actually think you're going to reach more people doing this fucking manual dumb shit
cause it's larp dude it's fucking larp
he's a fucking marper dude he just wants the perverted experience of feeling like he's living
and reproducing what mau and the
fucking chinese communists did one hundred years ago or something
he's a fucking larper dude
why would you have a hundred do do you realize there's a lot more people than one hundred people like
hundred signs is nowhere near enough to make any difference
ok
i don't know what's going on here dodue this is the logic of direct action it's so fucking stupid and cringy a mark
but
why am i giving this guyt tensions guys fucking ridiculous he's too ridiculous to be given attention
yeh
became our parking lot exactly dude
literally admitting it he's going to go to the kmr parking lot with his honor sign
dude i don't know why i entertain this should i feel so embarrassed entertaining it
i'm actually so embarrassed
that i made it look like it was a serious
debate
or some kind of serious conflict
dude
this guy is a fucking joke i'm so i'm not dealing with clowns anymore i'm not dealing with clowns
yes we are marxist leninists here at infrared
but if marxism leninism means to you like some kind of larper
we have nothing to do with you dude
don't bother us
even if you're sympathetic don't even bother with us dude
were we don't mean it like that we don't mean it like how you think where it's like some
some like
fucking larpi shit
like we don't mean it that way
ok so leave us alone because
we have nothing to do with that ok
we have nothing to do with this kind of fucking like
this trend wherever the fuck it is this larpy shit it just has nothing to do with us ok we actually mean it way more in a way more serious sense
and we were not about you being like you know
this larpy clowny bullshit w you got nothing to do with it
thank
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piece of shit
talking god damn
piece of shit web my fuk and set it down itll just lit lean over and tip for no fucking reason
gotk gmu
i need a new fucking web camp stand i need a new web caamp stand hundred percent i do
ah the democratic party
yeah i did see this this is fucking crazy i did see this
i did see this
this is these fucking bread to wash people
now i don't have time self care the fuck of bits
this is who voss told you to vote for by the way
tax
it is good that wew our attack
yeah dude
exactly
we're separate from this larp and we're separate from bread to
bean attacked from every direction
being attacked from every direction on all sides
this is
yeah
fuck in vosver socialsm onlap
bogaloo
who's this
i don't know w that is
why right wingers filly
debating men
debating mendellion genetics guys
since we're on ban from twitch thursday we're going to be going on that show again
the real nimbo show the royale we're going to be doing that again
it's going to be funess fuk guys
thursday we're going to be doing that twitch show again
when i have a really fun time
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yeah wow
nice
thankes the bunk
bred to fans myths about china
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okay um
so okay
let's not go with historical examples and let's go with china for example your big stans of china and
what are the laws on l g b t people in china when was this actually when was this
is there a lot of ression reactionst i don' think
the sentimental laws
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yes from china
yeah knowos people in china
it's like i think when was this i forgot when this was
damn
we i like
a museum
explaining the box
out of the box
out of the box what is this
guys that's what they're trading trade w all those videos to respond to this debate if
revenge of the wreckor all this guy leftism today yeah guys
we uploaded a video exposing his bitch as
that guy's over he's done nice i'm not saying his name again
martial arts and dialectics
unless stream has briefly mentioned the martial arts can be used to gylects howes this work
i
i can briefly explain this
i mean we got a
got
art dialectics is going to involve every type of arts and practice that
doesn't allow you to be one sided what i mean by that is that
in martial arts
when you're training for example
you will never learn nor practice martial arts by just doing one thing and you know
having this kind of
burst of energy
and just you know going at it like that
martial arts is going to humble you
based on your mistakes based on your flaws based on your failures
and based on your imperfections of your form
so
martial arts is going to involve a dialectic
it's going to involve this dialectic
of
you the fact that you're going to constantly be humbled
a by your inadequacies
while attaining perfection of form
an attempt at the perfection of form
i guess that's the mo the weirdest way i could put it but
yeah that's how it's that's how it put it
like on
it's going to teach you
it's going to teach you
the limits no this is i put it it's going to teach you your limits in relation to
how you can control your own body
that's why it's specifically dialectical because
we think of our control of our body in a one way our mind is here and we just control our body
martial arts going to humble you you're not in control of your body in the way you think you are
so martial arts is going to give you an attuned sense of the way that
you actually your mind has to react to how your body works
you know
your weight your speed
you're fucking yeah that's how i put it
i don't have time to read this but i bet it's good
hig full medal
can we have an official infrad gaming league
i'm not going to o
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full metal spam
it's not banned but
it's also not encouraged i like this this this would be hilarious to play on stream if i could get w w or something
all right i'm downloading that sorry
that's been downloaded
that's a little bit too much
way too far
and that kind of ok that's just sud be dele it don't
let's not have like that kind of stuff
but i know that infrared is scared
ok
we'll see
trinity united
by
remember that stuff youre about stalinlie please watch what i know about gro for he's awesome
problem with definite
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it's kind of disrespect
how's a sleep post animal picks
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intellectual kola gang
very true
very true this is the truth isn't it
very true
this means anti sites right
like you're saying that
bak wun in was an anti semite it's not saying
it's not saying that we're against jews and saying that
backhm was
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paul robeson
way
i have so much respect for this guy i had no idea
i'm
you have no idea how influential
you mean
grown up and shit
at least when i was a teenager
on
yeah i know dude
it
his video was fucking stupid you know just watch my video
and you'll see how stupid is the yours
i'm not like
embrace the haingglebock
and yeah you're
growing fast now
china no longer socialist
ok what's
signed her
what
open
i saw this shit
emmanuel cant was a real piss and mamma boom boom boom boom
this is so cringe i'm sorry it's so cringe
he sounds like every bucking boomer professor ever
and many will this is totally
one hundred percent anglo dude
this is ok
when people ask you what do you mean by anglo watch this video
and now for something completely different
emmanuel kant was a real piss aunt who was very rarely stable
hi diagger hidagger was a boozy beggar could think you under the table
david hume could out cononsume wilhelmfriedrich hegel
and wittgenstein was a beary swine who was just as lost as schlegel
there's nothing nietzsche couldn't teach about the raisin of the wrists
socrates himself was permanently pissed
john stwart mill of his own free will on havelf a part to shand he was particularly ill plato they say could stick it away have a great of whiskey every day
aristotle aristotle was a bugger for the border andd hobbs was fond of his dram and rened a cart was a drunken fart i drink therefore i am he is socrates himself is particularly st
a lovely little thinker but a bugger when he's pissed
and now for not again
this is how fucking boomer professors who gatekeep shit and say i'm a retard
this is how they have fun andtell we really little jokes
oh it made me have campus like he's they they're enjoying so much that they're like flexing that they know about all these philosophers
and their dwelling in there
but oh we're going to have some fun
it's like your math teacher when they're like
they're making songs about the quadratic formula some shit
and it's like it's so quirky shut
fucker
burned down
metaphorically
the academic
intutions
bring down the academic institutions
bring them down
if i thought we're in a cultural revolution right now apparently right
because we everything's getting cancelled and shit
why
why didn't they cancel foking academia yet
as a whole
because it's a fucking waste of time
he sways people's fucking time
e manul cant the fuk a bitch we have the internet now in't have to sit in your class and listen to your bullshit anymore
you want to learn about con download the p d f online
ah so wholesome
wow
yes
full metal is being strangely wholesome
very bizarre
i don't
we saw these
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oh where is it
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and someone brought something going on in chile okay
well
i don't know where it is
let me look it up
apparently in chile
the communist party is doing very well in the pools
i just wanted to bring that up fun fact
chile communist party i think it's leading in the polls actually
in the initial polls so there might be a communist
where is it
someone shared it
chile communist
i can't find oh here it is
ok for the why is the media not why am i not hearing this from anywhere else
according to this poll
the the leader of the chilean communist party
is first in the polls for presidential elections this year
and i haven't seen this anywhere in the news
anywhere
haven't seen this anywhere in the news
this i on only seeing it in this tweet
nobody's covering it
it seems like they're shitting briaks dude and they're trying to cover this shit up unless the poll is wrong here
but
if this is true
it is fucking crazy
they're basically social democrats to who cares they're called they're calling themselves communists
that's important you know
yeah
but it's the name communist party dude
that
that don't underestimate you know the power of names
you know
i think that's incredible news but let's get this show on the road with jola
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hey what's up how are you
i'm fine how are you
i'm doing pretty well today
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yes so i've been messaging you in a very aggressive tone i' actually not like that so i could tell
don't
rachel yeah this conversation should be a pretty
fun i know you're a big
like jimmy dor fan
m and at which
right away i can tell is going to be a very very big difference because i am very vehemently against
jimmy dor and his politics
ok
ya so
basically my concern is with your method of political change
i think
the ideology and are you like a fan of like glen greenwald and jimmy dore and you
like that class of people
i guess so yeah also the gray zone type of people you know
mmhmm so even on ya somemi extream
yeah yeah so my big concern is that you guys hate liberals
more than you actually want to improve people's material conditions
ok a few things
to me
politics is about power
politics is war
now
to me
we look at and want to learn from socialism with chinese characteristics
according to which yes ultimately the purpose of a people's
state
or any type of people's politics its content is to fulfill
the needs of the people and improve people's living standards
but
this cannot be confused for the struggle
for power
and in this struggle for power
the
politicians goal who especially one who is not in power
to the extent that they are improving people's lives it is ultimately forepower
when they're not already in power it's not to do charity politics and charity are very different things
so the reason why we
hate liberals
is not so much that
we just have a personal problem with them and hate them
it's that
we find it necessary to establish ourselves as distinct from liberals despite being leftists we want people to know that there's an alternative
to the people who are kind of monopolizing what it means to be a leftist in america
but i
when it comes to power don't you need to convince enough of the populace to actually come along to your ideology and if you look at
people in america
i'd say america is pretty right wing leaning
so if we look at who is going to be more susceptible to like progressive ideas
i would say that would be liberal minded people
a economically they are more for
on the stuff that i would talk about like in reforming the system but i'm not sure if you'd even before reforming the system right you want to just totally take it down right well bef before we talk about that whole issue
i just want to make a point of clarifying that
it's only superficially true that
i
liberal minded people currently
would be more
more interested in left wing politics
then
the
i don't know if you would call it a majority but at least a substantial portion of the american people
who are right wing
in our view
the
american people
and these liberal class this metropolitan urbanized
we in our terminology we call the professional managerial class there it's only
this analysis only holds if we regard politics on the basis of a superficial political spectrum and regard the content of political idiology
as basically itself as just ideas
but we don't think
political idiologies merely represent ideas they also represent material realities
and this contradiction can give rise to apparent paradoxes
such as the fact that people who appear to be
right wing and republican voters
i which they are right now don't be wrong
can be more disposed to
a more populistic left
then liberal minded people wouldre because people
hold the political beliefs they do in the views they do
not because of abstract idiology but because of the way in which it reflects and relates to their
material and social position
but right now in america if you look at conservative minded people although you may think they're repont the populist messages
it's not that of economic populism
the trump voters respond heavily to messages about
you know hating
immigrants for example
white voters
the more rich they become the less likely they are
to vote for the democratic candidate
m so it's not like a you know poor white people are simply you know sure
sorr to me to cut you have gone
yeah you got no you can no you
uh two things um
i agree that trump didn't really lean in heavy on the economic aspect like bernie did
although to be fair
trump did allude to that i mean he was alluding to
you know health care and all thisse kinds of stuff to his supporters
but you're in general you're right the the primary means by which populism is manifested
in trump's case
is this type of anti immigrant and
all that kind of stuff these kinds of more racial dog whistles or whatever
but
it also must be understood that even this is a proxy for
a
material and institutional
differentiations in america now to condense that simplify
what i mean to say is that
currently progressive politics in america
whether you we like it or not
whether we're progressive or not we have to accept the sober reality that of only a small minority
of americans are initiated and properly institutionalized
enough
to fit the criteria of being so called progressive
ok so
progressive views in a sense are proxy
for some type of stratum of society distinct from
trump's masses so trump's anti
immigrant stuff and his extreme
non political posture non politically correct posturing and all that kind of stuff
is also a dog whistle to say hey guys i am more like you i'm not like these elites i speak and think and talk like you
the second thing regarding voters who are more rich
i'm interested i'm not questioning you the dat or anything i'm just genuinely curious
when when is this data from because you
i to my extent of my familiarity
during the
during the the biden
educated
sorry during the biden
sorry i have had the two hours of sleep
during the recent general election the democrats
the decisive element in giving the democrats
bringing them to power
were the more wealthy white
suburban
classes so it seems to me there's an opposite trend that's happening right now which is that the more rich white people are
i
the more they're going to lean on so called progressive and democrat now
actually wealth is not that much of a reliable indicator though in my experience
it just depends on what type where are they getting their well
now
people whose primary way of getting wealth
can bypass institutions they are probably going to be more trumped
supporting but people who are
wealthy and who get their wealth
through the
through the middleman of some type of institution
i think you will see an opposite
sect
an example of this is the fact that
trump wins across the board among the less educated i know liberals like to kind of laugh how they're all stupid but
it is a proxy
now
to measure the extent to which
trump voters are institutionalized
it's a very reliable proxy
okay i just want to um sort of pick it apart like
so right now in this country
where we are
right now
so you want to make yourself very distinct from liberals you don't want to work with them whatsoever so what you criticize bernie sanders for how he works within the system right now
yeah
ok so
if you want to cut off liberals so that is at least
i would say like thirty percent of america's voter base
m and then we take like independence maybe some of them are more liberal minded you take away conservatives
what base are you planning on pulling from
if these people are already set in this mindset are you looking to work with
other anti liberals
well and on likelight the right side yeah yeah i think the confusion kind of arises when our proxy for who we want to
who we want our base to be in stuff
we don't measure that based necessarily on ediology although ediology sometimes is a reliable proxy
we do it based on social and class differentiations
so
to translate the whole we don't want liberals
in our translation we means
we do no longer want to cater to the professional managerial class
we want to move from
catering to
the language and ediology understood only by the professional managerial class
who are we view them as gatekeepers of the left
and we want to make the left more accessible and more
sensible
to to people who
whose means of living
is outside of
urban metropolitan and so on institutions
a people
whose means of
making a living
uh
making a living is not
is not the
i should i put it does not have a
private sector safety net of some kind like
they're not in these cushioned insular institutions that guarantee them a minimum of stability i guess actually salaried is a good word we don't want
we don't want to appeal to people who can have the guarantee of a salary we want to appeal
to people who are used to having
heavy industry jobs or whose
who have lost those jobs because of
uh
because of sorry my brain is foggy i have to o a sleep
nier your obs are shipped overseas
or that those jobs are outmoded because of technology
those week in marxis terms i know we don't want to get into this
ideological stuff
we would call this
more or less the work
class
well let me just give you my basic framework of how i view your movement versus what i do
so throughout history i basically
measure movements who are very ambitious and what they're
changes through society are
i see these movements trading stability because stability is very slow moving and everything
and they traded that and incrementalism for something that will be very accelertd
i'm not saying you're a full on like a celbrationist
but what i'm saying is a lot of times the liberals will be hated
um regularly conservatives will be hated
and a lot of times the extremes will come together
and the only line that people agree on is we need to come together to take town take down this liberal government
and what happens when that government is finally taken down and this is why i criticized jimmy dor for talking to that one bogloop googloop boy
when the government is taking downh taken down
there's a process of fragmentation and and uh ref and it comes back up a comes back uh back up in a different form right
whenever that government is torn apart especially in america any revolutionary ideology that is solely anti liberal
im in america i see the military i see the police theate i see the suburbs i see how these places are skeing
um
to the right wing
there has never been a point in which this chaos actually ended in a better material condition for the people
i
is that all or
yes or ok sure y have this regarding this thing about stability and accelerationi ism
i actually think we can
sum up the controversy in a more simple way
volunteers
i actually don't think
the question of whether things are accelerating or not
or whether things are destabilizing
is because we voluntarily wish them
in my view
we recognize that the liberal order
is objectively breaking down and is objectively becoming delegitimized in the eyes of
the masses in the eyes of the american people
now i have observed among many liberals
what i think is some kind of psychosis they want to blame russia and they want to blame
foreign interference and they want some kind of scapegoat but i think this is a kind of denial of the fact that liberalism is collapsing under the weight of its own
contradictions
so to me
i wouldn't say i'm an accelerationist because that assumes that i have to initiate
this transformation i think rather
as proven by the very election of trump which is very well outside of my own hands and outside of the hands of people who think like me
we merely no longer
we merely refused to partake in
this kind of liberal csychle coosis which is in denial of the trend of reality
we want to embrace
this new reality and
be worthy of it
own up to it
and seize hegemony over
so you're right that there is no guarantee that the collapse of the establishment
will lead
to the
success of the progressive forces actually
what we would i mean that's a loaded term
clarify i consider
us populistic
communistic whatever type people to be the progressive forces
i
but oftentimes it can lead to an even more violent reaction on be on behalf of the establishment to save itself
that was the example of fascism for example in germany and a lot of people think this was an over the establishment collapse there it didn't collapse and
hitler was appointed by the
german establishment and backed by the
the german establishment i want to get into his
dowm
whether this leads to an i kind of also disagree that it doesn't lead to in a benefit
of the people
per se
well i guess i would have to
and
ask you what examples you have in mind because for me an example of
some type of threat to the american establishment
was that there actually is a history of populism in america there was the populist party in the farmer's alliance
or in the early twentieth century in the late
on nineteenth century
and these actually culminated
into what we now know as is the new deal democrats
and of course this wasn't a you know
full on collapse of the establishment but f d r did shake up
on the american establishment and well let me swear something up really quick when i say
populist in this sense i'm sort of leaning into the definition of illiberal
m to and by liberal i mean
you know a society that plays by these
i guess norms
of governing
that' is the ability
and building off of that stability is what i'm saying is necessary like you're talking about um
pus
at the most a social democrat building up a big welfare state
which is characteristic of like a social democrat liberal that was an actual like revolution
yeah i would disagree with that characterization i think that it it wasn't a
social democrat just implementing gradual ideas
it was in the context of a rising populist momentum in america
under the backdrop of the russian revolution as well
a rising labor movement an acceleration of the class struggle
and the imminent threat
of some kind of actual political revolution being serus being taken seriously by the
a the governments of the west across the board including america
but that's the thing that's the thing that like i think we should keep this main structure in place and also allow these populist movements to gain steam so that the top
their reaction of the ruling class their reaction is always to say we need to prevent some type of revolution we need to prevent
and you know prevent an uprising
what i'm saying is
for example this election biden versus trump
i was very strongly for voting for biden because i do see populism on the rise and i think that populism
is going to force the people who are in power to create actual change
because i don't want illiberals to be in charge of who don't believe in any governing whatsoever
because that leads to a complete societal
collapse so i'm not saying
that these aren't populist movements what i am saying is we need the structure that can be moved
by these populist movements because i don't think if we want things like universal health care universal child care universal education
that isn't possible without a full government
m working in you know together
well i consider this stance
in my view it
falls victim to a certain paradox which is
it
and i don't want to
can you know throw curveballs and confuse so i'm going to try to clarify everything i'm going to say
it confuses
what it takes to be
the objective reality we merely have to recognize and accept
and the subjective one what do i mean by that
if it was within our power
even if we determined that it was necessary
to preserve the establishment of some kind i don't want to straw many like
based bas what you were saying
we need to keep the stability
if we even had that power
that also assumes we have the power
to create the alternative
ah
if we had that power why hasn't why wasn't berni the candidate and the reason bernie wasn't the candidate is because
we don't even have that power
about the threat of bernie being the candidate
does help change what the eventual like policy outcomes are like for example amazon right now
they don't want workers to unionize the reason that they have a fifteen dollar wage now and the reason they have benefits is because for a long time now
there's been a threat of workers unionizing
so that threat was enough to move the establishment in a way
m that would be better
for people overall whenever there is a collapse of society i
typically see the capital owners always
maintaining their positions in that society so
if they had to pull the strings if the capital owners are
in charge of
the military they are
going to be protected as property owners by the police state
on if a society actually collapses and we don't maintain a civil a civil structure of government
when that society does collapse the rolling class makes sure it falls in one direction and it's never to the left because that'll actually hurt their material well well
what they always make a fault to right what examples do you have of a society
collapses so we can be more
clear about we're talking about
i
when i look at like the uh the o g fascist movement the market class working with like musolini when they're talking about like we don't want
um a socialist revolution right they didn't want
something on the left they wanted a revolution that be more like
use social aesthetics while at the same time maintaining authoritarian power
right with these rolling classes
but i wouldn't actually consider that
a collapse of the establishment i think that was the establishment's emergency security measure
against precisely that
and that's why it to me those
revolutions
quotes
we're actually well that's where i think we're going now though i think that is the the fault i don't think there's ever going to be another chance of something like the french revolution or something
well
as an analogy
in the modern there's two a few elements that
would
would make it comparable first
a the probably the most important one
is the backing of the military industrial complex a newfound chauvinism against
some kind of rising or rival power like china
and to me
the liberal status quo an establishment are just as culpable
in com com comprising
these same establishment elements which
giving the
if we compare them to the analogy of germany we're precisely the ones
who in their hour of need
i turn to hitler
now
before we can
prepare ourselves against the threat of something like that
i think as
capital c communists which is where we're coming from i know it's kind of
curveball it's
doesn't make much sense right now but
our view would be that we should learn from
the mistakes of communist back then i think i have a pretty solid idea of what their mistakes were
and the way in which
one prevents
this last emergency ditch of the establishment is first and foremost
a
before you can worry about preventing it
you have to
you have to pose such a threat to that establishment in the first place
that they would resort to that
last emergency so i just feel like
first you have to actually
pose that threat then you can and have an alternative vision and so on and so on
then you can worry about what their response and their reaction is going to be but when you're doing that
you're already going to be distinguishing yourself in such a way
that you are not going to be aligned with
what we're today we
think of as liberals
ok who would you rather be allied with right now in your goal to make this change happen would you rather work with forces like the boogaloo boys
m or would you rather work with
i guess liberal organizers but what would your goal be would you agree
with with certain people who say like we should be working with proud boys and gooogaloo boys
in order to make sure
this populist energy because of course whenever there' is the
energy in the streets
do you think that line of thinking
works for you
well i think a lot of those people
i'm not too familiar with them actually i just know vaguely you know
they're militia type people but
i think a lot of those people are swept up in those trends
m
in ways
that don't necessarily
reflect
uh every uh there possible
their pot all the range of their possible actual
political position
i think
people joined gooogloo boys and all these people you're talking about
for lack of a better or better alternative
so if the question is
would we want to create a
and a better alternative for those people
and engage in a dialogue with those people not
their
and not some
pander to their beliefs
but just create an alternative that appeals to people who come from their class background and can speak their language and
can present
one's position in a way that sensible to them
i think that is far more likely and viable
than winning over people who
whose class interest
who have no class interest whatsever just based on how they make a living
to
align with
what i would consider
h left wing populistic or communistic h
forces
i guess the way i'd sum it up
since that was pretty long
just simplify it
m
it's not about pandering to those people's beliefs it's just about
not writing them off
as inherently bad people
just because they may have
misguided views
so do you think class is the center of all of this
i mean as a marxist of course but what we mean by a class and what class means and how it expresses itself
and uh
and all those kinds of things
that cannot be taken for grant taken for granted and actually
ur show the infrared show
uh does pose a unique
view of
for example class
that you won't find among many other the
maxs for next plan
sure
um
the best way i could sum it up is basically that one important thing
a what is in the workplace
it's defined by how you make a living in this world
what is your means of making a living how do you
support yourself
and your family
and how do people in your community do that
and how does the world make sense to you based on that
i
so i think that would that's that's how i would sum it up
how do you approach somebody who is who grew up in a suburb right now
they feel populist because they believe in like the jewish question they believe that uwan on is going to be something important they believe that
ah donald trump
completely got the election stolen from him and they also are very leaning towards white supremacy
um so they're pretty wealthy but you're saying that that doesn't matter if they're wealthy or not
well im
it's the wealth is not
the only measure but to answer your question
um
suburb i would have to pose the following questions
how do they
i don't know if they're living with their parents so it would be a question of how their parents but if it's them their own house
how do they make a living and
are they downwardly mobile and what what is this suburb is it the suburb from the twentieth century is it the dying middle class
of the twentieth century or is it the new
a kind of digital age
amazon era
suburbs that we see propping up
which in fact do lean more towards the democrats now admittedly
a lot of people from the alt rights
did come from silicon valley type
suburbs
like in san francisco in silicon valley specifically
so there are all right people there but in terms of their class character notwithstanding a parent contrasts in their beliefs
these are the same backgrounds that are your bread and butter liberals many
in other words the pipeline from being a
bread and butter type of liberal progressive
technocrat type of person
to becoming a red pilled altright person
um
is not that
short
it's not that short
um
another thing
another examp an example of this i think is that i think richard spencer
represents this type of person you probably have in mind
but spencer her
was advocating for voting for biden and he correctly saw that biden does represent
some kind of new reinforcement of of
the interests of the new white suburban elites
m
and he explicitly h
has has been saying as much
now i
but not all
right wing people
are the same
the this type of person richard spencer type of person is very different
then your random trump
supporting q and on you know
qanon type of person
i guess that that
dilance
yeah just um
overall i just think the ideology is
hating liberals and when i talk about like material conditions right now if i wasn't involved in liberal politics as you would say if i wasn't involved in making sure like boding got elected if i wasn't involved
and democrats being elected to
the senate and congress and local house and the state senate they house
and all that stuff
like biden versus trump
byd and winning over trump was the difference between like thirty million americans having health care
and an array of other things when it comes to community health programs community
um educational programs h
so many things that it's not perfect it's not universal not universal
but a lot of people would have been hurt
from like biden losing to trump so not being involved in that fight is something i simply cannot
to do whatsoever and i'm not sure why you see fit to let that trade off happen unless if you think that's part of your plan well again it's part of this whole issue of volunteerism and confusing objective realities with
this what is within the sphere of our subject of intervention i think a flaw in the harm reduction argument
is basically again goes back to this issue of
why do we limit
how we define our power
if we had the power you're talking about
why couldn't we have gotten bernie like elected
i think we
left is if your left is i'm not
sure i'm not going to make assumptions
i just think leftist like myself
are not actually the ones decisive
in elections like biden versus trump if we were not just hear tar chat like literally it's just the differences on the policy between biden and trump but i know that your chid your child will not like policy whatsoever because they don't care about actual policy
but like just the difference on medicaid expansion alone is the is the difference between like twenty million americans having health care how the policy works like i don't care about their emotionsre but on there my issue with
harm reduction is twofold
when we're dealing with a scale of
tens of millions of people like you're saying
we can't pick and choose our morality
there are instances in which you can see that biden's reign
could very plausibly lead to more deaths for example overseas than trump
an example of this is korea trump was much more
conciliatory towards north korea
and then biden and the democrats appeared to be
so we can't pick and choose when we want to be harm reductionists when we're dealing with a
a very impersonal scale of people
we cannot account for what's going to happen to
to millions and tens and tens of millions of people because we can't say in one instance it's ok of biting drones people and kills people
that may have not been droned under may or may have not been droned under trump
and then in the other instance say
well at least bite and save tens of millions of people because i think this is actually a race to the bottom
and this is going to be a super extreme example i don't want to throw a curveball at you
i
i'm just using this example because it's like the most extreme
so it's easy to understand
you know
the consequences of this logic i think when it's taken sufficiently
far as it is
this could also be applied if we were living under some kind of
i'm not saying we are but if we were living under nazism we can also use this logic
you could be a harm reductionist if you were living under nazism
but i think at a certain point
if you have
an independent political position
you have to draw a line somewhere
and to me
a bernie is the one
w
successfully drew that line in two than and sixteen
in his
in the primary there
well i think bernie is smarter because he understands what it takes to keep people above water in general i think he has studied studied enough revolutionary history to know that isn't the route to go i think that's why he does what he is doing right now with joe bad in play coy
with all of these establishment politicians trying to influence politics as much as possible
and trump over obama
he had more airstrikes and yemen over his first two years than obama had had his entire first two terms
like thre's areas that we can look at different situations and do that we could play this game all over the place
but like domestically speaking
the policies nowhere near as similar
and populism
isn't exclusive to left or right when we're competing over who's going to be taking over whatever the current liberal establishment is so if we have somebody who is a
very right wing populist i'm not going to say fascist i know you don't like that word
but he is an ultra nationalist
or nationalist
if you if we have that person having to bully pulpit and getting people along with that kind of populism
that is hurting your cause too having trump in office overbiden sort of hurts your caust doesn't it because you need to radicalize people
anyway so i'm not sure because i saw you had a debate
on on why you would not be supporting
a by it because trump having that reach and being able to radicalize people in that sense through that mega foam is detrimental to everybody i
a few things you have to forgive me i oh the first thing you said was about bernie
well i actually don't my interpretation of bernie's actions have not been that generous i think bernie created a point a line in the sand that he himself
crossed because he too was swept
in
into this
and i don't blame him personally i know the idiological
and even material reasons
but
he fears the dissolution of the liberal not only liberal establishment but the liberal world order
that's my issue with bernie is that the
but bridging this off to the second point
s we can establish a bridge
about populism and liberal establishment in that
populism isn't necessarily right wing or left wing again i think we're
confusing too much
of volunteerism subjectivism and the objective realities to me populism refers to a phenomena in reality refers to the dissolution of establishments
and the rousing of proportions and masses of the population who for a long time have been
directly or indirectly excluded
from this establishment
now
of course it's true that it's not necessarily left wing or it's right wing
and that's because left wing and right wing
are more on the subjective side of things but this is a kind of objective reality so to me
it just depends on
how you're going to react to the subject
phenomenon we cannot
premise the phenomenon with some kind of normative position of whether it's good or it's bad
we must either we
we must either say that we must side with we must either side with the establishment and
rain down upon the people in some kind of ndie
or we can accept
the inevitability of this liberal establishment's dissolution
and its collapse
now i think your last point was
whether biden would would be better or worse
for left is trying to be radicalized
it's actually tough honest to god it's tough to
it's tough to ge i think
one of the upsides of trump's victory in two thousand and sixteen
was the way in which he absolutely not only humiliated
the american establishment
but he proved
that
he proved that it there are kind of paper tigers he proved that something like that
could happ
that he proved
he he completely
he completely led to the collapse
the final nail in the coffin to the population's confidence
in the legitimacy of the american establishment
and this is very favorable to people
like us people like us
uh who are completely outside of
ideological
academic and political establishment
we are putting forward
extremely heterodox ideas in society
which
i don't think would have even ha been seen the light of day had it not been for trump
basically exposing the fact
that the
things which appear fringe things which appear heterodox
and against the mainstream
ten indeed in america
become a mighty force
just as a principal
are you willing to trade
m societal suffering
it it's a sort of
well is your goal to accelerate
the process or is it just to pick up the pieces really
i don't think i can
accelerate
the process or
quell the process is acceleration i think i can only make
peace with an acceleration that is simply
at
and again
my biggest proof of the fact that it is happening
is the way in which liberals to me find it necessary to invent pathological
responses to reality with this new paranoia about russia
and among many other things
it seems to me that they are the ones attempting to control something that cannot be
controlled all we're doing
what i'm doing
i'm speaking for myself
is refusing
to be in denial anymore
refusing to
m
refusing to
enter into this
psychosis
i saw yeah but
basically i'm trying to lay
what i'm saying is
are you willing to trade like for example it's oubjectively true of all the health care stuff
if thirty million less people are going to have health care
if trump's president overbide him
is that a trade off you're willing to take for for simply like
washing your hands of the process and you know your strategy of likel so that's you're willing to take that i think my point though is that i cannot be held accountable for that because
in order for
meeed to be responsible for that
i have
to
i have to be the one
who's in control
and if i had that level of control
america would look very different in the first place like we are
taking for granted what we consider objective realities that we simply must accept
and subjective ones
and when we
confuse those things it becomes a race to the bottom at what point
do we say
at what point are we just going to accept
like
trump gets in power and someone worse than trump comes along
you know
first trump was the big threat now this other person makes trump look good
so at what point does one
a draw line in the sand but
again the harm reduction argument
simply doesn't it couldn't be sustained from a moral perspective
i
again maybe there was more drone strikes under trump
but
biden
eah it's there are many indications
that
bite in the
biden is bringing all these hawks into his administration who are responsible for the cataclysmic
destruction of iraq
i
and suffering inflicted upon them
so
when we're dealing with a scale of millions and millions of people i don't think you can hold someone like me accountable as a moral agent
these are realities that
are outside of our hands
well no but i i can call you defeatist in a sense if you don't want to try to contribute to the possibility of this system surviving because i mean after the system falls apart especially globally with how
globalist our global globalist economy works with china and russia and everything that we're seeing
on all these geopolitical interests are going to collide especially if something like america would collapse
and our you know structure fell but whatever comes after that is complete bloodshed
um there's no chance anything would come out better than it is right now with
you know unconsciousable amounts of
bloodshed and turmoil so i mean are you just saying you're sort of defeatist about it or well if i'm defeatist
that assumes i have had a power
ah
that i deny
that one has
if this stuff is inevitable
then it's inevitable
that you're saying
i
i don't think i think it's a cope
to just do your best as an individual
a and then say well i tried my best and if the worst happens at least i feel good about myself
to me
what one can do as an individual who is outside of the elite
and outside of the establishment is use what energy and power you have
to build alternative
forms of
to strengthen the bulwark
of anti establishment political power
and movements
because
that you can make a huge difference by doing that
as an individual
you can make but i'm doing more to do that than what you are as i'm organizing labor movements as i'm organizing vocal legal like i'm getting people who are anti establishment just because they're not willing to wash their hands up w process comletly i'm reaching more you because your ideas are very against what the american public would be even be somewhat
perceptible to like just
with pure scale
it's a failing mission
i think you can do more building an ante establishment alternative
as an individual
then you can
working
as you're saying with
inside of the democratic party as of now
i
and the simple the simple reasoning i have for that
is that
as an individual let's say voting for biden
you're only acting as a citizen one citizen among many millions
when you put your foot in the ground and establish a true alternative
um
you're no longer one citizen among many
you're somebody who is
participating in the creation of an entirely new
current and trend
which amplifies the extent to which your actions actually do make a difference because
your actions no longer have to passively accept
the arbitrary subjective
position of the establishment in the elites as said in stone in object
you have more freedom
to
to platform real change
for the simple reason that
you don't have to preserve
this
monstrously
ah
in nurse
establishment
now
i'm sorry i forgot i was going to say sex
so
yeah i mean yeah we're not going to get anywhere on this discussion because obviously
you see it as the system is done i'm not taking and you already said you don't take any moral responsibility or you don't feel it's necessary
to help
people as much as possible right now you would rather per what i would rather prepare for the end dr i think you will be helping more people by doing what i'm saying
then by simply trying to feel good about oneself
a
because one is
incorrectly
ah
overestimating the extent
to which
this establishment is set in stone and ultimately necessary
i
so if one places themselves with is a moral agent with such high stakes
you also
yourself would have to take responsibility for the inevit if if it is inevitable the inevitable
apocalypse that will follow
when the liberal order does dissolve and by the way
you also have to think in terms of time frames
if one can speak in terms of a scale of millions of people one can also
speak in terms of a timeframe
of decades
now from the timeframe of decades
being outside of the establishment may
in the short term
correspond to not helping
as many people
but in the long term i argue it will be helping
and more people now
i
with the reason we are optimistic get in for red
isn't because we're denying that
all this war and stuff you were alluding to is not going to happen i think immense suffering is inevitable
but we want to establish
some type of courage
and hope
and perseverance in the face of this
i
but so it's i guess you can say from your perspective that i'm a defeatist
it from our perspective
we believe in a new found perseverance bravery
and struggle in the face of this
pok
to person i do know somebody like you i am an organizing group and somebody they are very with the same mindset which i'd obviously disagree with and i think bernie sanders kind of proved even you know going through the democratic platform being on that stage
um like he exposed more people to these anti capitalist anti you know liberal sentiments than i think anybody
really through that platform if bernie sanders doesn't work within the democratic party
on one he can't influence policy in a positive way
and too he can't prepare more people to see
this collapse of the system because what he's doing is
not only
is he i think bernie sanders i don't know i think you would agree with this
i think bernie sanderss candidacy is sort of like
his warning
to the rolling class that things are getting to a point
that they need to act now
or something bad is going to happen
but at the same time he is alerting people
like this is happening people are getting their eyes open so he is affecting positive change within the system while at the same time
accomplishing the goal of getting people ready for when it does inevitably
to collapse and i'm you know and my goal my goal is to work so it doesn't collapse
and i would rather you know as good as
incremental change could be o't rather the best form of form of that
oh is that all or
yea yaes
regarding bernie i actually disagree on this account i think many of the people who became socialists as a result of bernie
but i think bernie basically dropped the ball
after twenty fifteen twenty sixteen i think the democratic socialists who were influenced by him
afterwards
kind of became an insular group
and didn't actually succeed in
reaching out to the decisive populations for whom
it would have mattered
i think they just reinforce
their distinction as a
some kind of
elite
some kind of special marginal
group of society against
the majority for whom words like socialism
democratic socialism i think to this very day
are extremely alien and i
frightening and
so
so i don't think bernie succeeded in giving a platform to a real
don
real
ah
the perseverance in the face of this inevitable collapse of the liberal
established
i think
what i would say is that he more so
established himself as a type of
lorax like
in conscience
for the
establishment
but
this lorex remember is not
someone they really at the end of the day are going to respect they keep him in the back of their minds
but
ultimately in the final instance
he is shafted and marginalized
to me bernie has become
that meme of him just sitting during the the
the inauguration and
he represents just this i
you know just this kind of cute guy sitting on a chair
can't do anything he's
completely shafted and marginalized but
at the same time he is our
he is our con
well yeah i see him as doing that because he knows i can't push more or i'm going to
pushed too far and i hear this sentiment repeated from marxist professors i know
on mostly economists like we want to push more but the system won't survive it
and that's really what i'm thinking about and i mean
it and you can obviously tell i'm not one of these performative people that i don't i'm not at the baper i don't scream at you but if i wanted to
this could turn into a conversation where i'm like
you would rather let all this bloodshed happen you would rather let all this death happen
for your political fantasy like i could
uh you know turn this conversation into that if i was one of them
wy i would retort you and i would ask you where were you during the iraq war and
it's not enough that you opposed
how did you meaningfully stop that war and if you s fail to stop that war
it's not enough to say you were against the war
we're talking about the results if your actions were not powerful enough to stop the war
that would be aken to saying that
you failed to prevent the bloodshed of hundreds of thousands of
if not millions of iraqi people
well what i would say is my view of it is political power so
if that war happened and i was against it i would say
i did not do enough or my movement didn't do enough
to get enough politicians elected into these positions where they can have a meaningful
um effect on this vote but of course we know there is are are some things that will prevent politicians of a certain ideology from getting elected
m to these positions but that's what i would
and yt saying it's not really but i would say its but by your logic i would say that wouldn't be enough you stood by and watched these millions of people die because you were not
willing to take more risks
would be my perspectve
but what risk could i have taken to help stop it
im
admittedly
i'm just going off of your logic admittedly
i think
maybe there's nothing you could have done to stop the iraq war
but in the same way
it's more than possible that there is nothing some one like me can do to stop the calamity
that does await america
yeah but i still do my work i
you know do what i can to make sure the syste and i understand i don't all i for and what time scale is that
is that ultimately to make you feel good
specifically within your own lifetime
or are you doing work
that
will
will actually succeed in persevering through this apocalypse
because i am not satisfied with doing my best in feeling good about it i actually want
results i want to succeed in producing results
ma sure like something like climate change
i don't think that can be tackled
like let's say the u s dissolved somehow
i don't see any other power any other power in the world taking steps to properly address that crisis i think it would take
and effort between countries because i do think neo liberal countries wanen to guests pushed to guests pushed to the limit they do end up doing something
um to try to stop these crises i'm not saying they're going to fix it completely
but i'd make an argument that the structures in place right now are the best bet
that society has and just in terms of overall suffering
i would say overall suffering and i will be saying this from a privileged perspective
i don't think what the u s does with like foreign policy or anything i don't think that's going to be resolved i think no matter which superpower is in power in the world
i think the outcomes are going to be pretty similar
when it comes to colonialism and everything
well a few things regarding the climate change i completely disagree on this point
i think
it's precisely the inert
liberal established and specifically
we see with corona virus
in an exact and pretty concretely evident way why liberalism
is an impediment to facing something even like this
i
china was able to deal with
a corona virus
with great ease
ah
systemically speak
because it is precisely post liberal
liberalism as we know is based on
a the individual as the supreme political subject
and when we are in the face of collective
catastrophes like
viruses and like climate change
the liberal establishment which is entrenched deep
deeply entrenched
is an impediment to even having a chance to mobilize the whole of society
in the face of it
you regarding climate change more specifically though
i don't actually think
climate change
can be presented
i think it is inevitable i think it just is a question of
which comp countries will be more equipped
in being able to
prepare their populations
ah
to whether it
son
and i think china has
easily easily the best
the best chance
right now
and well if it
and yea but
my question is that i'm not
here for these conversations typically but why are these countries
why do these countries if you do not assume they are completely authoritarian why do they have political leaders who never leave office
um throughout their entire duration and
um like if people are barricaded in their house as a result of the state's power
m that doesn't seem like a better solution
even if they did deal with
the pandemic better
that wouldant to be a country i would want to live in versus the united states or an there
well
i think many people would disagree with i think many people would say that
china's actions have allowed life to resume to normal even now
when here in america we still are
facing this pandemic
now almost a year
late more than a year later
so
regarding this issue of leaving office though the
there is a mean that ping is going to be president for life but the only thing that's happened is that
im
some articles was removed in the constitution that necessiates
a term limits
but china's leaders have come and gone
ah
throughout the past two decades so we'll see but even if she lasts for more than a decade
a lot of people look to the example of putin but what about merkel
because merkel has been in power
to my knowledge almost for just as long and no no one seems to
raise an issue over that
but regardless i think that's kind of a side
conversation unless you want
n yeah
um uh m i ya i like domestic stuff
sure
yeah well again
i
that's pretty much why i think
the harm reduction argument is not
sustainble
because we would have to pick and choose
that the extent of our accountability
and
if
you can be responsible if you can be ok
being resp and i don't think you are by the way i wouldn't say you are responsible but
by this logic of harm reduction if one can be ok with
a million people dying
then what
what is so bad about being ok
or sleeping well at night
while you know that the
thirty million people won't have health and
like where do you draw the line
because i want less people to die and if the entire society dissolves then more people die
but i think this from a moral perspective is unsustainable
because
ah
again it's an issue of tim scale
may seem like
what you're doing now is leading to less people dying
but because you did not necessarily use your time your finite time and i don't want to attack you specifically this is all hypothetical
because you didn't use your time and energy to build
something new
i
you are doing something now
which is ultimately leading to more suffering and death
when we introduce the variable of time
a timescale
then
were you to have used your energy and effort
ah
to build it's almost like a a logic of capitalism right an entrepreneur
i
you can invest your money
in a bit a small business
and take that risk and you won't get returns immediately but in the long term you'll be good
or you can spend your money on something with minimal risk
ah but
which in the long term won't get you any
and i think this applies in the same way when it comes
polits
all of history it is harm reductionist though like that is how
life functions it's trying to have the best outcomes there won't be a perfect utopia out of any of this and even if the u s let's say the u s disove today
and became like a complete communist utopia let's say it was perfection
another country would easily come in
because this society here would to be playing by the global rules another country would easily come in
and take this over um and if the military is not becoming communist
um the police state isn't becoming communist if our society
if our society does fall
it's over for ninety i mean for a lot of people a lot more people than you know harm reduction will ever
to produced and the power structures all lean all go far right there's no way if you know everybody who is a socialist
democrat communist all these people
would be gone if our society actually dissolved
that alone to me
is enough to fight the keep
this system somewhat stable
and try and and i'm mostly like closer to to like a social democrat
um to a system like that
yeah well just that alone of a few things i really disagree that
history is a
harm reduction is
i don't think this is what the logic that
pells
specifically the history
political struggle
now i think in principle
a state which exists
for the sole purpose
of benefiting
uplifting
and improving the livelihoods
of its people
is to me
ah
superior and i think china is one such
in contrast to for example liberal states like
united states
but its far as we're speaking about the war for political power is concerned
i
it has nothing to do with charity
it has nothing to do with the
harm reduction
whatsoever
a
now the second thing you were talking about which is the
that the police in the military
won't be
become i agree they won't become socialst or communist
but the
i don't have a magic
ball to look inside to be able to say what will happen in the face of
collapse
mary
honest to god i
i'm very limited in my ability to know
will it be a balconization
of different territory splitting up
regardless though i did i simply do not
believe in the perseverance of this american
state
as
ah at a as um
strongly as you do i don't i kind of believe
it's a paper ti
i think
these institutions can
lose their power
and if they don't
lose their power
at this point we're talking about science fiction right
when we're imagining a revolutionary situation in which
the broad masses of the people on the one hand
a people's militias on the one hand in a new police state on the other i think this is kind of the realm of science fiction at this
but
in sofar as you are speaking about a new type of reinforceed
police state
i can counterpose that with a new
and
a new type of
and
new people's are
some
we are entering the realm of science fiction
when we talk
um
ya i mean
and i'm mostly trying to find a way to yeah you could go the way i would put it is that
we we
want to be optimistic
about
the ability for progressives to face to confront and to persevere in the face of the worst possible
scenario
i really dislike the argument that
we have to do everything we can
to just prevent the worst out
i think we should always accept
that the worst outcome has passed
and that
the aim must be
to
draw a line in the stand
sand
establish some type of independent ground
that will allow you to persevere
to at least have the chance of persevering
in the face of the worst
yeah well
i think this convers i'm just trying to this conversation for me is trying to get an understanding of uh
what your guiss ideology is
um i still obviously think
from my perspective
that we should be doing whatever we can to make sure the system doesn't fall apart i think actively plotting for it to fail
um is really sort of a defeatist and even if something did happen to make something fall apart in our society
i believe i'm doing more work
to help
the goal you know that that transition works better just by spreading these a like the ideas
of
and the principles of you know a community working together making sacrifices
um in a way that benefits their fellow men m
and you know seeing past
the propaganda that we are told from the top
of how this capitalistic system needs to act
the way i'm spreading it
just by virtue of how it'll be accepted by more people
it will be much more effective
than what you all are doing and i feel like it's sort of like you know you have your your grilla gang down there and i would love to see those amojies down there it's very very comical very funny i love it by the way if you're in your chat i didn't tell any i never but know they are they're being nice they're being
yeah they being on i want to see in your chat though
ah ya
well regarding i don't think we're necessarily plotting for it it's just that we're trying to give meaning to
we're both accepting its reality and also trying to discern
what it means how can we
instead of entering into a psychosis and just going crazy how can we really establish some type of meaning in the face of
this collapse
regarding is it more of a religion than like a social cult
well
you know it's interesting because people critique us for on the one hand
not cracking down hard enough
on the diversity of idiologies in our discourse
and then on the other hand people think we're a cult
but
we i don't have the level of control a cult leader does over their community
i just don't have that
rule
they
list they are here
some people like some of the things i say many people disagree with some things i say
a some like what i say but
i'm just trying to give you what i
i am trying to discover
how to make meaningful
this
this
i
this collapse and how to persevere in the face of
regarding whether more people will be accepting of
m
i guess to tried and test it over where we're coming from which appears to be out of nowhere
so i think this is only
superficially t
but i think
what we're doing is a big risk but it's doing it's doing something that's informed
by the history of america
by the history of its traditions
and by some type of concrete analysis of the current american
political situation
so we are taking a bigger risk i guess than just identifying with
the established political
currence
and by the way i'm not proposing that i'm going to create anything from scratch i don't i don't
think of myself that
highly or i'm not that delusional
um
there's a reason why we're marxist leninist and we're communists and all this kind of stuff
we're very sympathetic to people like jimmy dor
and
the barrier to entry to someone
agreeing with jimmy dore and watching him and listening to him
is much much lower than someone accepting my personal utopia or anything like that so we're very attune
to concrete and material realities
but all i would argue is that
those realities are themselves full of contradictions
it's not just accepting the establishment
there are contradictions against the establishment
which do not require
ideological delusions
do you share the same chemanship when you see someone like steve bannon talking or something like that do you
do you
find yourself agreeing with what they say about our society being fragmented
it depends on what he's saying if steve bannon is making a
well
very common observation that
the liberal order is collapsing and yeah he's right i would say he's right
but do i think
do i agree with bannon when he says i
western civilization we must defend western civilization against china and all this kind of stuff of course not
but
it just depends on
is his
claim normative or is he is a descriptive
and when it's descriptive
steve bannon is often right
when we're at
i just wanted your um take on one more thing uh did you see the g glen greenwall take when you said uh tuck carlson donald trump of them are all socialists
i believe so yes
um i just want to your take on that real quick before we end this
if you would agree with otherwise i would be very calculating about what i'm going to say but
my views on socialism are so
unfamiliar to many people i would just say this marx in the communist manifesto
wrote about
over seven or nearly half a dozen
types of socialism some of which he called reactionary socialism conservative socialism
christian socialism
so to me socialism is a goo gd to my extent of my knowledge greenwall is making the observation that socialism is an objective phenomenon in reality
there's no true socialist or false socialist and i even made the observation that
trump's aesthetic is very so his aesthetic superficially it's very socialist
maybe he's more a reactionary socialist but
um
it does prove that the phenomenon of socialism
is something inevitable
and object
wp alright um
hope you have a good rest of your uh uh night this was a
a nice and calm conversation it was more similar to hm i saw your one with xandra hall
that was i think that is that your only comm conversation with somebody
no no uh
there was one with
kevin logan that was very calm
kevin logan aight
ll right well thank you for your chat and everything a ye h i trying to run now i have to go to bedst
she lim on
i ha seen it
oh man
on
lot of
hoke you
so he
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ya guys uh
you guys have no fulk and i i'm not ending the stream anytime soon
but
if i'm a if i feel if you guys think i'm a little bit low energy it's because i'm on two hours a
th
so give me a break
you know i'm on two hours of sleep you know but um
what did you guys think i liked it
i like talking to him
i like talking to him dude because at no point did he say what i'm saying is meaningless you know
at least he kind of was trying to understand i'm trying to see you know
but i
i didn't think he was ever going to be like
hostile or anything i saw
i saw his review of us and stuff and it's like
that saw
i promis him the the debate you know
and
so yeah
i promised the to
no
but i
i know tonight's not going to be like when we that night when we fucking it's not going to be as crazy as the fucking last saturday and it's not going to be as crazy as the saturday before that
when we fucking faced destiny or whatever or would we face wash
i
yeah
i don't know i think
that was like the best i could do on two hours of sleep to just try to clarify
where we're coming from in a non hostile way i'm not in industry maany time soon i can't sleep now
i can only go to sleep at probably four a m minimum
you know
probably four am minimum is when i can go to sleep
i'm not going to end the stream now
let's check our twitch am i finally on band
please let me be on band
still banned
i think when is wen will it be tomorrow morning or like
we got banned like one am or
so maybe let's stay up
let's stay up for the twitch
let's stay up for the twitch
oblivion no dude i'm not playing oblivion
because no one likes a blie no one wants me to play blu
shoud i realize
so we're not going to play a bliving
not going to sleep
let's get lk guys you have a party to night i'm kidding
all right let me do some quick callins why not
quick callins not debates
try to debate me i to disconnect
sorry
what's up
eight
you know with some pause
what a man
hey
so i wanted to ask you
if you don't like
yeah was up
so m
what are your thoughts on on
comrade brace speldon and the
and
maybe comrade maybe not matt chrisman
who's the first guy you mentioned
ah pisbigh granddad
he fought in syria
with the y p g oh that guy i don't know do youy you
i'm not sure what to think
oh i'm going to shows podcasts it's good true not
pretty good shit oh i heard it true and on yeah i've heard of it i'm not familiar with
ya guy goes on hassan stream doesn't he
i think he did i think he played among us with this his son maybe yea i think he did but um
lot of like
you know like
it was originally like ebstein shit now it's like various like ghulish you know
like deutsche bank and shit like that so
pretty cool
and so i'm listening to
ed berg and contbots
thing about
you know they're mapping a lot of real conspiracies and stuff
really o sion
that's cool
b
have you listened to the
oh what's it called blowback
that one's a good one they're doing like a
cuban revolution one like pretty soon which i'm like looking for to
who's doing it
a blowback i think it's like soen is doing it
ah no
let me look at
i think they're in the
um
give me a second sorry
oh
it's what's his name
like there's some twitter guys
oh
and i know i'm probably flugging
gilen space brendan james and the
some other guy i don't know
but yeah no a colen all right yeah
it's good shit i
and it looks like i'm shilling you know
i'm
i'm not getting paid
i'm doing it for free
sreorll unfortunately i don't mean to kick you out but
that's right i do have somebody that i
forgot i got to bring on but a thank you for coming on
yet a pro thank you
see it
our guys so there's been some discord drama apparently
and there's been like something that happened while i was asleep or i don't know
so this guy list sans w he's going to come and tell us tell me for the first time what's been happening in the discord
and he wanted to come on and do it live
so
what's up man so why don't you give us a rundown what's what's happened
oh man's been quite a
been quite a
eventful couple of days
today and yesterday
sure
so basically what the rundown is
i'm ok and a couple other people
they're pretty much
pulling out all the stops trying to boycott you all across tanky to s to speak what did what did i do specifically though like what
i don't know what i se a the fellow traveler thing
i don't know man i think it's just like
he lost an argument yesterday
on tohen you came in
you came in and then we kind of embarrassed him publicly
because he was saying that you you he had you reserved for like a show he was doing and then he just asked you right in the b
what did he ask me
he said do you want to come on to the show with like doogan or something
oh yeah
yeah i don't
he was cool because he was like linking me up with all these people
and these the signa guys but
that guy apparently he got mad and he left
so
that was that was just because of
just the
yeah it's so stupid that's actually really stupid
whatever you know like
it started out with like an argument between me and carvo and then these guys joined in and i found myself on the side of carvo
yeah and i i don't and by the way i wasn't taking sides
all i said was
the discord has rules and that
in the v c you neither you need am
if you're going to say someone said something
you need the majority of people who are there to agree with you or a mod's got to be there to confirm it
or you have to record it i don't know if that's allowed or whatever but
we need proof
you know we can't just
because when one side is saying a story and the other side saying a story
i can't just take one side side
you know and i appreciate that guy i am ok for helping me
i guess
trying to set me up with a lot of people
but
that's not enough for me to just
prioritize your word over others
yeah yeah yeah
i think carvo said some like middle school fucking cafeteria tableshit
and they were trying to pass it off as like you were telling someone to mutilate someone just some fucking dump
yeah i mean we do have rules in place
but it was sm as simple as that you know and i don't know why
there's this discord drama happening in the first place i think if
instead of having discord drama
log off
take a walk outside
watch a movie
play a video game do anything but that
it's a big waste of time
yeah yeah but at the same time then like
this guy has connections to like the pcusa
and he has connections to dogin so i don't know what the fuck he's thinking about cancelling me when he has connections directly to the eurasianist movement
so who the fuck is he to cancel me
acking and i what the fock is going on wh are we doing this dumb at shit
why is left but you know i actually don't care about the piece usa at all
whyse fellow traveler doing this why is he sticking over a man in the wall and this is some ego shit
this is some like complete dogmatic horship
i don't know dude i have no fulking idea
i don't know it's like this this discord you guys got to understand this is moss isley cantino
you know like i mean the people who are in your streams from the beginning the guys like red doundn and the guys like punjabi the guys like me the guys like glas andoll gang
they're guys like wrench gang
even post nogebl jujaism
like these guys are misfits even in our own community
i don't know about if they're aught they all are
but
five percent ca is no we're not
we're not really well equipped for this kind of shit
i don't know why people created problems from nothing like what was actually the concrete
problem that justifies
this issue
like what was the problem
so i don't know and it's just some likeay cafeteria fucking
insults you know like you're in middle school
well here's what i will say
we'r we're lowering the barrier to entry to people who
are going to be interested in and the
and the gatekeepers probably don't like that
because they're used to
having their special power and privilege
you know
attached to that name and they don't want the barrier to entry to be lowered you know so
h i know left isn't today man like
i was shilling him of on your stream i was trying to get this u up shit he was doing because that guy had dreams he's a smart guy you know
is this a center
or is he just rolling me then
i don't know man i think he's just in a rug because you know socialism dumb left just like completely deleted the bond that he was in
guys i have have been keeping up what's going on with you f c i literally have't been keep i've been living under irock
i don't know man i don't watch sports unless it's i have a
i can watch it on and i can't watch it on stream but i can watch it
while not
posting it on stream
is it alwasonble
and an way i was s my left isn't today right n knoww this guy had dreams of this side opshit that he was doing and i'm thinking this is kind of what we're doing already
we're kind of just trolling people and bating people on the internet
to get more views to get our shit out there
for some reason like l ti is just like
he's not having it ma all he does is attacking me he just attacks me i'm
he just screams while attacking me
ma i get it ma'am like maybe he has some uh
problems with you specifically about
reading theory or whatever but at the same time like when are you ever going to be fucking writing an economic plan
why do you need to know all that shu you want to know something pathetic i know more about him
i i guarantee you i know more than him about marxs capal
and men we have
we have paul cock shot his computer over there
if we ever need that shit we know what it goes to
but i know you wre issues that
nobody
knows what they're talking about when they're talking about capital if they don't get dialect
there's the thing man
mk
i'm going to sae some corporate isshit right now
wm
and most most left this are their limbs without bodies
they're like detaching themselves from the body you know what i mean
yeah
mke you're a good showman you're a good front man you i g what you me yeyeah i gt what you mean
yea yeah
and elsie he's a smart guy he haits the books you know he's kind of a he's kind of a
an intellectual satus i don't know dude i
i he was saying some shit
that really elementary like errors like
like i went on
don't sey up to fort max i physically can't sleep until four am like if i try to go to bed right now
i won't
actually faseleep
so
i'm not keeping the stream ofup
you know
a at the expense of my health
but thank you for your concern
but what i'm trying to say is that the
a
dude he was saying some weird stuff about he for example i came on a stream
and he's like what is value like he just asked me out of the blue
and you know like this arguing semantic shit is getting us sower
but you know why it takes me a long time to answer simple questions
you keep geting the same folking questions just no it's just because my views on those are so complicated
that i neglect
having like ready at hand answers because like
do you know how what it would like
do you know what a fucking
pothead question is what is value how fucking crazy that question is
you know i nor you fk and think that i don't know why he
like you brunk about that like
what
is value dude that is a pothead question that is a fucking crazy question
you can know this is use the real question is iing that i have against him not really against them just some but like to anyway anyway when when i asked him to give his answer because i knew he wouldn't be able to answer that question correctly
no one can honestly not even not even marx
per se
for even in marxs value is still kind of a mystery as far as what it
actually is me i don't even think it like that i'm just thinking like a normal fucking person would never ask that question
like but anyway i asked him what he thought and he was like
value is labor time
value is labor something like that value is labor time
and i was like dude
that's a really textbook
mistake
because
value
can't exist without a form
without
passing through price
you can't speak of value without prices
you can't just say it's fucking labor
that doesn't make any sense
like how could you not know that if he's supposed to be this marxist intellectual
who apparently knows you know what he's talking about
it's really elementary that
value was not referring to labor value was referring to the way labor is
filtered and the way labor is expressed
and abstracted in our society
or alienated in our society so i don't know like no
what he was talking talking about
now you can think thaty right but at the same time
like a
i do think you have some
i don't know what to say here blank spots
when it comes to like economic marxism
well you just mean more like the cockshot like statistics
yeah yeah you're much more like a philosophical kind of person you're much more vioent kind of person and that's a good thing because
a lot of these marxist men like fucking robots
yea i mean like i'm not the type of guy who's looking at
studies every day
shd like
i we s
and you not mak ns bute would not like
but you would not put a focking book together and put citations in that's res ok yeah yeah you're right about that like i'm not that type of guy who's like going to be like doing
empirical studies and ships
these guys like that and they serve the purpose you serve a different purpose well i guess i say but like i'm just telling you
marxist capital volume one to three
i understand
you know
like i actually understand what he's trying to say mark
that's all i mean like
it's very much
intelligible to me
those books yeah i think
i do think left isn't today he misses out
on a lot of what mark had to say
by looking at it this way
buty the same time there can be criticisms of you as well
i don't know jude i think
it's hard to critique me
because
i'm a showman
you know
exactly that's what you're good at
so it's like
as far as like my actual views are concerned
i have to filter them in a way that
isn't boring
and it's not hard
i mean it's not easy to do
you know
right right right and what i'm thinking
right now
i'm thinking
what is the average person
what does the average person think of this shit
by nobody
nobody asks how are we going to pay for this that's for the pundans to think of
pay for this you know what i mean
my
any time there's an issue in the
in the world and has to be paid for
the only people who are asking who's going to pay for it are like the people on the news know what i mean
you mean like directly pay for it in money or like more like
they're going to have to go yeah a know i
reserve resources stuff like that
and
i think
there are some people who know what they're talking about when it comes to that stuff
and there's some who don't
and
but it's not the judg you think mao knew anything about
chinese economic planning
he didn't
yeah he has someone else to do that
exactly all you have to do is have the correct politics and worry about the tech
belate
you know what i had tol a foman he said
a no i don't i'm not s i'm not familiar with them
he said economics is for donkey
for mules
oh
like the mules can deal with it you know
yah little ones carrying everything
yeah
it's not he's trying to say it's not
maybe he's kind of wrong but
some of it's true in a sense as far if it was
applied to technocrats it would be true
like
you can worry about that shit later
you know you i have t i have talked to lefts in today he's kind of a technocrat
and in a way i am you you correct as well
yeah
how
he's like he's on what what is an expert on
wy like an expert not i just meant like he wants people who are intellectuals to be in power
but
intellectuals are never in power intellectuals just serve power technocrats just serve
the real power they're never actually the ones
do you know powers like
powers for strong people
it' not for
intellectual just kind of
recycles
they never invent any
creative
yeah i've been reading a lot of genteeli recently you gets into it
i'm not quite up that alley but i just
even hagel just base hagel hagel understands
there has to the reason hegel is a monarchist is because he understod
is precisely be caause
monarchy is completely irrational
there nothing can just
completely arbitrary
but for you i mean if you think about it right
nobody remembers the head
anyone except for the head honcho
but the reason is because
for hagel
real power
at the real
human power
cannot be
rsh cannot be a
rationalized in this sense as like according to some technocratic logic of
utilitarianism or something like that
has to be irrational
it's
ah yeah
but m
you know
i don't think he's a i think technocrats are experts
leftism today doesn't strike me as an expert on
yeah yeah
is a programmer that's what that's what is a
ok fred programs
yeah
he should programe himself
some some content so you can actually get views without using my name
yeah
well
is there any chance you you to could patch it up because i was really hoping that shit would happen
dude
from the very beginning
these people were the ones who threw the first stone
don't i'm the oneho
who
was just defending myself
i considered him a friend and he coll like just ghost to me today
'm
i just want him back you know
but why like what
he hasn't seemed like he's done anything
i don't know he just had dreams you know
stl is kind of shat on him
and by all this drama happened
i was s he just reacting to the world around them you know if
if he had i would never shit on someone for having dreams and shit i just shit on people who come at me
that's all i know him from is jus the fact that he came at me
for what
you know
i guess that's why it comes down to it i know them differently
okay i can respect
it's just
yeah
i mean
i never want to shit on people who got success
and who are like representing actually something new even if i disagree with you
if you're bringing something new to the game
good luck brog i'm not going to try to kill you in your cradle at least it'll lead to an interesting outcome even if i completely disagree with
you know
now i'm just i'm just looking around aur town
a yugan fucking boycotted by everyone
but you got to be you got to keep something in mind you
these are just the people you know
like that you're used
these are who i call gate
f you look at my views on you tube right now we're near two hundred views
true we have two case
we're not getting boycotted by no one ber you sees gate
thank
it's this
look dude that community you're talking about that's boycotting me
where have they gotten
how far have they gott in the past
few years
what have they done
yeah
honestly
you know we are really rising and growing strong to
strong
like
razy fucking big
and strong
like
i didn't even notice all those people left
and were boycotting like it's literally like i didn't even notice it
that's how much it didn't make a difference
the only reason i know about fellow travelers message
it's because someone shared it in the discord
as a screenshot and that's the only reason i knew about the consequences of his
of his uh boycott
you know
and
two hundred and now is pretty low i'm going to be honest
last weekend we were near three hundred
but that's because our twitch is gone on twitch we had
about
hundred
two hundred viewers
plus what we have now on yout
so
our twitch is coming back tomorrow and that shit is just going to keep growing
because we were going to do those
twitch collapse and shit dude
i'm not saying the ode de old
andmls
need a step aside but i am saying
if they're going to act like gatekeepers
they're going to be mowed down
so
everybody's got to get with the program when it comes to infrared
or we're going to forget about it
you know like the guys who were here when you had like
thirty viewers the're still here you know i know they're still here i still see him in the chat
yeahea
all these mother fockers are still here
then got your back
yeah
at the same time we need to be growing you know
yeah
right now we're talding a slump
first we got the twitch bn then we got all this boll
we're not the reason ok the reason it might seem like we have less viewers
it's because i've been streaming late
i have been getting sleep
and that is right
i'm missing i'm missing asphole wh never sleeps last night i started at
what ten pm the night before a eleven pm
that's why due
and then wednesday i didn't stream at all so just lo just wait for this week dude we are not going nowhere i mean
this is not a dude
ue two hundred viewers
talking to case of
you know
falking crazy that is
roomm and i remember i remember just finding you
you remember we just had like thirty viewers and we thought that was a lot
exactly yeah dude we are growing dude don't worry these numbers are fucking crazy
these are crazy fucking numbers dude
i just got to fix my sleep schedule and the i got to fix my sleep insomnia issue and then we're
we're ready to go
and i think i've been banned from too many twitsch chans
i'm going on like thirty
do don't say that
alright
no re ch you don't mch you don't go w that because when we get on bd from twitch
we want to go back to twitch i like twitch better honest to god i do
now twitch is where it's at mean
yeah
it is dude it is
i
but you're great gaddafi right
yeah i'm rebranding
do you've been here from the start you know i'm saying
um
you just from the start you know
oh i'm just sad a people go
so
so man it's you know what
i understand you do
because they've been around for so you've known them for so long
you know
and i
infrared was supposed to unite
everybody and rally together
but that's what that's whathy i thought he had a dream of ru up
he dreamed of everyone coming together
it's just like he's not part of
you know unfortunately due to it
it's an unfortunate
law of gate
not
issue of gam
and it's
it's just inevitability you know
but we've got to keep moving forward
i don't know what happened
the are talking like man in the wall
it's fine
did he get to your ass
man in the wall
y man in the wall we talked this in today
we took them and wall takes
wait is man in the wall talm sit about me now
always been talking shit man
let me check his e you
i wis i ca se fin it by now
he's al he's always in foll travelers chap
i don't know why
due isie
fellow travelers surrogate son or something
i swear to god
so like he had no father figure going there why like i
aren't they idologically opposed
i don't know man it's like black ops fucking brainwashing on this kid
dude
how old is felking fellow travelers that kind of weird
oh no man this why
maybe late twenties
i've been hearing too much about man in the wall guys didn't we already have man in the wall is just getting shilled by this guy
we already had man in the wall on
we already had him on
i've been showing my guy this guy's me sholling his your guy
lseie but he's gone now
can't even message him any more
he blocked you why
i don't know you just kicked me off the server
w know it's funny we didn't even kick any of their people out they're still in our server
yeah those guys those guys we were arguing with yesterday they left on their own fullition
what did i fucking do like what did i even do that just pissed these people off so much
that crab in a bucket mentality
like what did i even fucking do i just woke up
that i know i know what i know what i did they want me to ban a lot of people
that i'm not going i'm notre
they wanted they wanted to be a leftist thischol yeah true dude
truest fucking thing i ever heard
truet
bulkitude
that's so fucking true
they just wanted to be another circle jerk left his discord
hundred percent thes ey feel is talking about ging g and ch you want to on ban m
or needs be
i trust need f
oh
apparently he messaged neatfood
gin jeets to wants to be on band after everything
i don't know man my ginjee comes out of that mill you
you know
that left the pole
i don't want to deal
nop
you can reform i've reformed you know i've changed my name
ok but
i just don't want more problems you know
ant least amount of problem
he does it for free he's a janney
he's not being moderate again
you know that's not haz
meet feet doesn't get any financial compensation
do need feet
needs feet is the fucking is a fucking hero of infrared
he has the rule to car
you don't know
hero of infrared dude needs feet is falking
been here from the start and he's do he's done noth doesn't help re don't forget that
i know dude and i hope
yeah jude
does do it
dude for
you know fucking the
the thing with ginjt is that
i just feel like he's a drama
he's like he he's going to be like
i am ok and he's going to be like leftism today
and he just wants to stir drama of some kind
and i just want
minimal stress you know
you know honestly the people we got on the surver they just hate watchers of like bosh and all these people you debated
yeah
you aren't even coming from the audience that we're debating people from
hey thoughts lime as a new video what is a degenerate
mayb we should react to it
that guy can just symbolizees weakness
i dude i think i'm going to react to this d but thanks for coming on man
yeah yeah i'll be ship posting in general as always
see later ro
oh
well hello it's me pimply pete he what's a degenerate and why do people keep talking about it in the comment section of each and every video i make and some videos i didn't make everyone seems so convinced that i'm one of those that i'm that thing is that something that i should be concerned about
is it something i should consult with my doctor about
do i need some sort of injection
these are the questions i'm setting out to answer to
today quick note the word degenerate sucks but i don't care if you use it
if you think this is going to be some impassioned plea to get you to
filed degenerate in the same category to be like
can we justify the use of this word
because i am inadequate in being able to understand its meaning
that means it has no meaning
or he is the n word or whatever sorry to disappoint
in the past i've spent far too much effort on attempts to police the literal words people use
he sob tweets me
no thanks what are you talking about
what the fuck are you talking about
where does he subtweet me
no
no he doesn't
tell me when
when
what he
no thanks
what you talking about
what are you talkin about dude
use rather than the ideas those words
where does he subtweet me
wirds represent
words are
he brings up lamarkism
no he bucking doesn't
not magic talismans that manifest changes to reality
simply saying the word degenerate
as i have said it
four times in this video already
does not in and of itself cause harm
but
i also think it's silly to suggest that the word
any word for that matter is just a word
words convey meaning
words are little mouth sounds we make dude
infrared is starting a new linguistic revolution where people are re evaluating
how we relate to meaning
through language people are starting to talk about language now
because we're being the folk out of chomsky
chomsky bt a full
chompsky bt a full
we're changing the game reevaluation
change in the discourse
change in the game
linguistic revolution
chomsky overthrown
no more universal language
no more universal grammar the revolution in language means the sight of meaning is now art and its the demiurgic transformation where the pucking art is created
and is the new sight of meaning
i got to make a foging protein shake is that ok guys
i'm going to make a protein shake sit your fulking eys down if anyone leaves when i go create this protein shake
i'm going to fuck and find you can i go make a protein shake guys i'm go to ask you i'm going to go do it
sit poking us down
you guys
nice to hear me
i hear me
course you can
my wife picks up everything
everything
even if they were
downstairs you near it
that's not who yeting works es and hear everything you can hear this to ready
right
oh you gus
i know you heard that
i know you heard that guy
know for a fact you guys hear that
knowo for a fact you got that here
all right let's continue
look ten people left
fucking beitches
they transmit things
from our brains to the brains of others salad
pill what
dog
mountain
these are all
this guy's pulling it out of his ass
all words each one conveys an idea from me to you and most of you
probably can't help it visualize a word any word or small collection of words your dad naked farting into a tube that i say if you're going to be throwing around the word degenerate
willy nilly
when watching this video i would ask that you consider what that word in particular communicates and whether
is this guy retarded
words are when my brain sends your brain a signal
do these people think in terms of computers because we live in a computer era they're just like the recharge with thought the brain
was a thermodynamic engine or something
the buck in nineteenth century
so stupid
ther that is something you intended
so according to iriam webster
the word degenerate
in the sense that we'll be looking at it today is defined thus
degenerate
now
he
one degraded from the normal moral st
hey thougt slime i know you're making his video a piss me off personally
but please
understand
that in a debate
i would
low you
the
now
comes
balking lane
in linguists
so do your homework
b
standard b
a sexual pervert see
in in anthropology
one showing signs of reversion to an earlier cultural stage
well golly
yeah i ude i'm sure this exhausts every possible meaning associated with the word degenerate
those for those sentences you just read that's that's it guys that's what it means that's all it means
that's the only possible meaning it could have
gee that doesn't sound so bad why am i getting my panties in a twist about the word degenerateve that's all it because it triggers you because that's what you fucking are you are degenerate
because you represent the degeneration of our society
and the degeneration objectively of liberal democracy
and you are this fucking slimy pesst
that has crawled out of the sewer
thriving and going fat
but is
but like
ok most of these make sense
to degenerate means the reverse of generating
to revert to degrade you're overthinking it you
idiot
a degenerate just means
someone who represents the decay of our society
that's it
and what does our societies decay who socities decay
it's a fact that our society is breaking down
there's internal contradictions
the or liberal orders breaking down
if you can't see it you're an idiot look at corona virus sure
but
how does a sex pervert do that
like speaking as a bon
dude
because
explicit
forms of sexual display in the past a least
corresponded to the breakdown of norms
ca to a sex a degenerate
who is a sexual pervert
corresponds to the breakdown of basic
distinctions between public and private life
fied sex creep
what is being reverted to an earlier state or degraded by someone
you're overthinking it it's not necessarily that it's over it's reverting to an earlier stage
in history
it's just
reverting
to some type of
entropy
that society imagines itself to be can
holding at bay are constructing itself from
actually it's not even like that that's more like a conservative view it's more that it's fucking
a degenerate
is not to reverting
to a previous society
it's fucking
someone who represents the objective dcay and degeneration and breakdown of the current order
doesn't necessarily mean reversion
per se
but
in the fucking nineteenth century what they were thinking was that
it's probably comes from wig history like the idea of progressive linear time
so they thought
civilization would degenerate into a lower baseer state
of exist
that's probably the reason the dictionaries defining it that way
doesn't mean that's
talking
it's reducible to that
and
jerking it to people sitting on birthday cakes or whatever
so that matter
what does it mean
vitos twenty minutes while
into
speed run time
degrade from the normal moral standard in order for that to make sense you'd have to view morality as like
solve
you have to be able to agree not simply on an objective system of morality but also how it's measured and what the average amount of morality points a society has in order to see if any one person is above or below the standard for that
yeah the way you measure it is
fucking the fact that people perceive it in a widespread way what is the barrier to entry
the way you solve these dumb problems is the barrier to entry measure
what is the barrier to entry for someone to come to this
clusion
simple as that
does it require them to read fuck and curtis yarvin or something
matter what is the normal standard is it the one most people agree with or is there some objectively neutral observable moral standard that we can
you're fucking overthinking it do the very notion of norms and normality
is irreconcilable with something you could that is
absolutely tangible
ok a norm
is by
fucking
the word itself means something vague
vaguely normal
normal is always vaguely normal
if you could absoluteize it it's no longer normal
would
if you could absoluteize it in some way
in like absolutely measure a norm it's no longer a fucking norman
couldn't be or
to discover through rigorous testing whether those really fel sufficient to me if it's the one most people do with that' alwayschanged could you without anging go from being a generate to being normal if society's morals change
so this guy's like socialsm dodnb left pretty much
with you if there'san objective more
like that's how he thinks he thinks i'm like the sourcials im done left with
holy that we can discover how will we know when we found it what will we compare it to and so we probably haven't found it yet how cold we say that anything is degenerate without knowing what
jude
he's thinking about normality in the prescriptive sense
when the point is what the society considers normal
moral which is a sociological
question it's not a prescriptive fucking
normative moral
such
look at his dumb face like do you think about anything you slimy idiot
do you ever think
normal morality is and to say that someone has reverted to an earlier cultural stage implies a linear progression of cultures from least to most good i decide which culture is more good or more advanced or whatever and
you're overthinking it
you're folking overthink
he does think like a reditor
he does
he does think like a fucking red
dude the reason they're bringing up reverting to a previous state
is this whig history idea of the progression of time
and also like in the evolution sense like of civilization breaks down we become monk
monkeys
and we degenerate into a fallen state prior state
that's not the only meaning of the word though but maybe that's the origin of the word but
that's not what it means today
you're overthinking
how we know that those things are necessarily synonymous so i do't to see how the word is used he's a jo one tong using it a whole bunch degenerousy is a broad topic but it's call you'll find alcohol is peop viseral onslaugh agains everything that's pure anddcent but writs a content with keeping that degenerocy in house no no they export it all over the world it is not the young people that de generate they're not
billt to those of mature age are already sunk into corrupt another reason why we a to be more susceptible to de ggenerously than ever is that we have too much time on how did you hear about this new sexual fetish couples repeatedly getting pregnant and having multiple abortions what a time to be alive question regarding abortions and breeding fetish ok so to be dud
the fuck is the
it seems to me
like not being traditional or drinking too much or people making storiesbout f
did thought some just say that having an abortion breeding feti ish
is the same as just not being traditional
or maybe i read it wrong
di i read that wrong dude i think having that kind of fetish is a little bit different than just
not being traditional
do to traditional and kind of
uh parking
city
dweller distinction
is probably as old as the rule urban distinction itself in his
people mean by degeneracy is some kind of corruption
ok
it's not just about not being traditional
per se
it's about how norms
are corrupted
and that's all the phenomena itself is defined by for example the breeding fetish
a breeding fetish isn't just a nontraditional
it's only defined
by some kind of perversion and breakdown
of the norm of of
having children and stuff
it doesn't actually represent anything new
so
for example
women's education is in some contexts in history
nontraditional
but it's not degenerate
because it actually represents
something definite and new
and which doesn't only define itself
by the exploitation
of some kind of
breakdown it's not only negative it's also positive
it's not only negative it's mainly positive
in the sense that
it doesn't strictly define itself by the breakdown of a previous order it represents the establishment of a new type of order
namely an order in which women
can be educated
can receive education
so you're being a dishonest
fuckings
slimy creepy
sexleses on the internet because none that happened it's definitely
people wringories drk off you' adult in' unerstand you't get that's videous is the
ok
you don't think it's degenerate dont i mean
i don't think people should be
attacked for this stuff
but we can take a calm distance and be like yeah
the reason for this shit is because our society is breaking down
like
there is a newse it's a fucking psychotic yeah
like that does represent the breakdown
of a normal society
we can just
make that neutral observation
it's out
the paul complainingbou people claiming to still be conservative still
like ferries i don't think they should be bullied but
yeah dude that represents a big time psychosis
ok
like
that is a type of psychosis
should they be bullied probably not
no
but
you have to look at that you've got to be like yeah dude this is
this is the general
but what's the reason for that generousy is it because there are immoral people
no
it's just because
there's a breakdown of liberal society
still having some vaguly progressive social views things as mild is not being religious or smoking weed it's less
no dude none of those things have to do with
thetreats on the generousy but rather a treming on line w're trying totp it's callmsel conservative as though that somehow is the aceis around which society flourishes or collapses that's whats helpfulan i might if i would be so let's look at strawmn
word was used historically ites a little like this industrial revolution
and starts popping off and that creates new class of people who own factories and shit and
dude he got this from lefty pool with the fu
aren't necesarily nobilidy but they get most of the money anyway and all the things of do and such are like thanks for the taxes suckers and the class of people who will call the bourgeois we're like hey fuck this fuck this entirely everybody o this n we're all the same everybody has the same rights we learned that from all the science we did in the enlement and everybodyl was likeh yeah for real everbody's the samen women
not no no n noo that's right
did youre wrong
that's not how it happened
this is not how it happened at all
this is such a stupid fucking over you history
and it's also an issue of the chicken vers the egg
because there's indications that
maybe some got you some of you guys aren't even ready for this conversation
but
in no meaningful sense did universal rights arise because
this tangible figure
it was in their interest for
it's just not true
the the established bourgeoisie in every revolution in history
ultimately sided with the ancient reg
during the english civil war
the big bougeoisie
sided with the fucking monarch
it's always the small booz was e the small capitalist the up and coming ones that are revolution
and that's fucking basic common sense to
all men were created equal andenowed by the creator with certinal right and everybodyl was like ohs real oky well guess we should stop slaightingeople in all these and stealing alltherir shit and the we'rebb like no no no okay let me
no dude this is not how anything happens in his
w those actually aren't people when i say people i mean a different thing and evers like bre not right dude
actually when they when they spoke of universal rights in the beginning
they didn't have to gatekeep the meaning of the
it was pretty much
like
the universal rights
itself
meant
like the property owning white males
it's not like they had to immediately gatekeep it
all the time it's not true
does this idiot not know where this rights thing came from it came from renaissance neo classicis
which was inspired by ancient rome in the roman republic
dude you don't know you're talking
os everybody'sid forany so i got people dog and the the student junkt peple mark was like you know get this everybody i got i figured it out basically you know babies look like their parents i dou wow dud he's eas immediately preparing for our licenle debate
he's fucking preparing for our licencle debate why did he just randomly mention lamark
you're not darwin
ah
wasn't darwin the fucking guy who is you he wants to mention
but he wants to mention lamark because he's his new argument is going to be that
licenal means
fascism
watch guys just wait
he's going to say licencles means fascism
you know why that is now the stuff you do changes what your children hear from you which is like when super jack people have babies their babies are jack the shit right and everybody was like that makes sense to me and then chucke darwin was like youo i just saw some fuk up turtle onan island and i figut everybody used to be ags not a direct quote ok fine said the b so again if everybody used to be aes or is descended from havingany or whatever the flock and ca be the samecause i maks pretty clock up we stillway the resources and killed a bunch of people if everybody
this is not how it fucking happened whatsoever
do you actually think they needed darwin to
justify their worldview because they didn't
thedy
thought it complimented their worldview even though darwin was just
reasserting the prejudices
a as angles pointed out
himself
isw like darwin accidentally discovered who it turns out they were right like he himself
was just
reasserting those prejudices
but
this is so stupid you actually think this is how the story goes
because it's not
by the way dude
colonialism predates universal rights
you colonialism was not some huge scandal
for universal rights like how you're saying
in this sense he does need to read dominic lasundro
what's his last name what how do you say his last name
but soondrow
but sudro was right here dude
bourgeois rights in no meaningful sense automatically
it's not like
it was a self evident abomination
that there was colonialism
you just don't know what is meant by rights
l sudro yeah le sudro
foults line do your homework before our debate or else you're going to get b t
what must't happen then is that they were like us but they're flpped up cultures in the way they were acting
you're forgetting about the way in which universal rights forecloses the more
fundamental relationship to being
that corresponded to the west genocidal relationship
mankind
conquest on that stuff was
nothing new
the
rights precisely attest to the unique evil of the west you're talking about here
made their minds inferior to ours through the marking evolution yet that sounds good i this idea of
some type of absolute
point of differentiation
in relation to being in the form of universal abstract right
guaranteed by the state
that
corresponds
fucking
metaphysics of colonialism and genocide
sly
you're so dumb and stupid
like
a notion of an absolute criterion for what it means to be a human
or
to have rights
also corresponds to the absolute
i
absolute rejection of the humanity
and natural inherent rights of others
don't you understand that basic logic you dump fok
anyway everyone has rights but we still get to own everying
and that worked pretty well for them
with a
he's creating a simplistic child story that is not even true
few side effects
the idea that some humans were genetically superior to others he rise to genets a suicide where by people
eugenics couldn't you should debate this guy dude
he doesn't know what he's talking about it comes with eugenics
to deliberate medaling you have littened to create better people which basically meant killing sterilizing an one they thought wasn't
what didn't the eugenics kind of predate
eugenics i think came first right
which eugenics can
did you genesis proceed
darwin you know more about this shit than i
theory enough but more on topic it gave rise to social generation theory the idea of thereat civilizations give way to liberty decades over time causing them to
you want to know who else understood this basic fact
they just said that
civilizations decay over time and give rise to corruption
literally every falking
scholar of every fucking era of human civilization would agree with that
what's that fucking book that me and that somalian guy talked about that was written by the arab philosopher that literally word for word says that
well i guess the arab and islamic philosophers were eugenesiss
came right after darwin
dude
is it al goazali
thoughts lime is so stupid do
the collapse and these ideas aren't entirely separate because it was the assumption that a societyes collapseed people became biologically worse and if peoples biology became worse this hastened societal collapse creating a few
yeah the dysgenics
o
backlard so therefore that's what they beeve the more
thats you weres a culture
the more biologically superior you were as a race and you'll notice that this argument was mainly madey people who already consider themselves to be now he's trying to see that the word degeneracy is inherently
the inherent meaning of the word is biological eugenic
you
but that's not true dude
you don't only have to conceive degeneracy
in the form of
fucking biological supremacy or ysgenics
so
t od
more thvanc even caldon even howdon yes
culture the nazi hated modern art which they refer to as degenerate art for this reason they believe that it represented some sort of failure to look at the standards of traditional art and came from enfeeld artist who lack skills create art a traditional technical standards that re might be more than simply yeah thought the nazis were degenerate
you ever thought about that thoughts slime the the nazis were degenerated
they represented the degenerate
they want to demonstrate on techical mastery as a proxy for the raial sphirre
modernity was fucking eugenicism and darwin darwinism was you
fucking degenerate
everything a but that
priority seem to have escaped them such the general art would have a genertive influence on the culture removing the standard of mastery
dude thoughts slies whole aesthetic in his whole stick is basically like
oh you're just like this conservative who believes in like these values and shit
and i'm just thinking like
so
looks like
it's really arbitrary and you know it's really kind of prejudice
and i'm foughts slime and i'm just kind of like you know
i'm sre to be like yeah you know you're the one making a big deal out of the dude you're the one making a big deal
you know
i'm just this
slimy guy how does the thoughts lie
you know i'm the sly
you i'm just slimming around
it's deterritorialization man
you know
i'm a body without organs
you know you're a dude deluan bost line one
which young artists had previously struggle to maintain and giving way to lax attitudes furthermore the social attitudes of the type of person who created this art would be dangerous something we shouldn't let people be moved todard
it's not de losing
he said oh we there do the whole fucking thing about bread tubes all they do is that they
they thrive off of mocking cliches they just mock what they perceive to be cliches
but they also are the ones creating those fucking straw man cliches in the first place
oh this is a cliche of platitude i'm so above it i could just beause by virtue of being aware of it
my free subjectivity is higher than this
it's literally the rouk the reason i called sosendun left a romantic aristocrat
lit deals are all romantic is there sexual
no it comes from hegel's critique of the romantic
during the nineteenth century
romantics like swgel
their whole poetry in their whole aesthetic was defined by the fact
that despite that we have solid values or something
time moves forward so there's this basic contradiction of like
movement and
destruction and
i permanence in relation to permanence
and whatever
and the whole aesthetic of the romantics was basically dwelling in this contradiction in
and this irony
in the irony of
and that was the romantic aesthetic the romantic aesthetic was basically like
oh you seem to believe in values even though those values enter into contradiction with the reality
oh i'm so above it all and like every time something becomes a platitude
and a clich
the romantic feels like they're above it because subjectivity is something that is free
floating
intangible and incorporeal whereas objective reality is
according to them something fixed and predefined
so it's an opposite
that's whey those bret those sansal people
their host was a host youre communist marxis leninist ohw are you going to lead the revolution
and all the you know the workers party and all that proletariat the whll the victory of the like mocking us in that way
because
they feel like that
when they're bundling us up with all these cliches
there could there're thriving off of
the contrast between a perceived
fixed set of cliches
and their own free floating
subjectivity and that is the quintessential romantic esthet
and it's pathetic
cran
' haired by
hagel's aesthetic
overcomes
the romantic aesthetic of the beautiful soul
hagel's
aesthetic
is about fucking moving mountains in ship
hagel's aesthetic
's about work
hagel's aesthetic is about getting the fuck in hands dirty
putting that shovel down in the ground
and getting into the mud
and the dirt of reality
and working
by the sweat of your brow
that's the ha gelian aesthetic
hagels aesthetic is the orthodox christian
you pick up your cross and you walk up the mountains
not this bucking bullshit look at this guy's face that's his aesthetic
but it's worth knowing
that you find this attitude abeit perhaps less explicitly in all sorts of non nazi places well music these days isn't like it used to be it's made by phonies or criminals it's making it shallow and more cliches
i want you guys to apply these analysis i'm saying
all he does is mock cle cliches and in doing so invent those cliches
or delinquents pull up your pants a turn to havet the right way around who knows kind ofciety would a hundred years if youe hats are slightly as few it's just not logical to wear hat that way we've already figured out how to wear hats and of course none of this has anything to do with fact that most of peop wear hats that way or different to me it's just that i feel very strongly about hats social generation there imagines that the cultural evolutionary process is for
literally
every time he confirms what i just said im a
ok so i doe so as though i don't have to say it again
right lind you start at least black ort least powerful or worse or whatever in the spectrum the process maant right forward towards a more perfect state
to degenerate and is to move backwards along that spectrum
it's all working by
that's like
when is all this stuf anyway down there like
they're like burger king
and on the butt
and it's like
it's all just a bunch of farting dumb stuff anyway you know
ims so bobo
towards the simpler or worse end of the spectrum thereby stalling progress towards the perfect end now couple problems should weveout you with that model right away that's not evolution either biological or cultural works there is no perfect biologicalatu as my wife and there is no perfect culture there can be
what that even mean how would you measure a culture's progres towards production that's draw man dude you're making
you just made a mountain out of a fucking molehill here
you just created straw man upon straw men
critiquing something that has nothing to do with the everyday use of the fucking word
you actually think when people say the word degenerate they're thinking about all this dumb shit you're saying
they're not
it' how fucking words work
just an idealist idiot
when people use words
that doesn't
contains some secret knowledge
or implicit knowledge about all these things you're talking about
yes that word
is related to the things you're talking about in history
and therefore somehow connected
but the association is not
inherently decisive
in the use and expression of the word
it's like
if you just thought with your common sense what's that mean the i q graph where it's like
the dumb people are here they say
one thing
and then the middle kulks are saying they're like the soy boys
and the highest i q people are literally saying the same shit as the dumb people
that's how it actually is in reality
it's these middle cokol woks where the retards
the dumbest are smart
that
the smartest are smart
the middle people are the retarded ones and that's who he is
thatout relying on the values of your culture would you even be measuring i could you posibly say one culture is better than another and like most people get that int it level i think it's relatively easy for most people to recognize that say modern technology doesn't nessarily mean we live in a superior society compared to our ancestors of course not right like technology
this is also a cheap critique of european modernity i could do a better job
and the reason why they measure which culture is better than the other one
is because
they think there's something within their own culture
that other cultures
do not have namely modern subjectivity itself
an idiot
becomes all sorts of problems and gives a dangerous amountf i were to aventge modern cortesian subject to the detached
cartesian subjectivity
which allows you to be free from and the permanence of eternal social bonds
similar to you thought slime the reason why some people think their civilization and culture is better
is the same reason why you people call putin fascist
that's why dude because you think you're more
you think you're cartesian modern subjectivity
is the only
enlightenment and freedom there could be
the small contingent of people takeers never ha to deal with many climate change nuclear liviion but on the other hand there're no sperious id eier because they never got awlaybout visual novels so there are trade offs either way
it's not like we're necessarily smarter or no more thany did because it feels a lot of time like we dot discover something thats an ancient culure aready had it like a million yearsgo the marke of progress isn't a straight line it sometimes doubles back itself and rediscover technologies that people are figured out somewhere i'm not saying the aspecs of the internet not saying it but there's compelling evidence for example andantiotics are deliberately culivated and consumed in north africa a thousand years before we discovered them in the west but there's a tendency of you cultures having edventced in a leer way morally or you how we think about stuff i many times you hearre someone thinking referred to as backwards toy we al things like plurality freedom reason quality in ways their ancestors might not
okay
dude you're you okay this is right
on the face of it it's right
but the reason people call some things backwards is not because they're necessarily making ands assumption about wig history
backwards can also refer to something unique to the contemporary situation
i
i've see the word implies backwards
but
it could also mean
for example something that is
an active tendency in current reality
going against the grain of some kind of transformation it doesn't necessarily make an assumption
about the nature of the present's relation to the past per se
so again
this is the problem with the middle i q p
right
here's how it is
these are the dumb guys they're saying the truth
this middle guys retards
go down the smartest ones
saying the same shit the dumb people are saying
that's how it works
and was the seem like advancement we're advancing away from the things we don't value the words the things that we do
but every culture would feel this way no matter what it believe because every culture moves away from it doesn't value and towards what it does that's
we things i's not true cultures
move towards what they don't value all the fucking time
called
ternal
value something from the pspective someone who didn't sare these alues it would seem like things were going in the wrong direction in order for one to believe that were progressing or regressing on the axis of most bad to most good you have to believe that there was some yardstick
here we go with the axis and the's overthinking shit
dumb ass
by which oneuld objectively measure civilizations worth
and there isn't
you know he met
psure against what your socety values and of course we'vedvanced what your society values because your society exists in the present in terms of biological evolution the give me a fuck break evolution isn'
this is not really a strong critique of
wig history at all
done
creatures better
like
like he's trying to say like every society has the prejudice of the assumption
that
all history culminates in it
but
he's focusing too much on the aspect of
arbitrary view of history rather than the implications of what that means
or
the society in
present
we are all faced with our
selves and our reality in the present
a subject
ok
if we are here yes
we are objectively here and not there in the past we are here
so that doesn't necessarily mean you're making an arbitrary judgment about
being superior
to the past
you're making the judgment that
you are not the past there is something that separates you now from the past you know discuss ituch a sued
or stronger it makes them more suito their environment whit tharks didn't stop evolving because they became more perfect because there was a lot presurerom their environment to do it
evolution isn't like in pp it is always a stup wed more powerful form keep on ont evolution
when you don't know anything about it and youther do the sciences
buty is not gtting here because i know the networks i make this clarifcation it's all here about the comments i'm aware that there are some pok ont to becom technicallyles powerful itf evolvedor revolve too early so we to move and the all the is going to ge get your big nords i hat you back to the hob evlution is the process of taking a natural selection you have geneshichrun the gene sofware to make your he thinks genes are real would an idiot
this idiot thinks genes are real
what a dumb ass
but you has along those gens the off ring sometimes there's an a thought line what's a gene can you explain a gene to me
you'll see and the gene do something they we're supposed to and you got g on your what's a gene
and the baby most of the times is either negligible or ba
and false line are most mutations random or known
you know that
you know that most mutations are not random at all
they're not random at all whatsoever
mutations actually a misleading word to
because it implies randomness in the word even there's no
usually no randomness at all
a but sometimes it your love of large numbers you went up to thats some sort of adventage the environment
that means that is more likely pass on its genes and others of its species and likewise and offwering which
he's peddling fucking dark social darwin is bullshit
and have their mutation and o w genes are like software again it's fucking computer retard
imposing a historically
relative
shit
on fucking
evolution requires deviation if evolution reached some state of perfection something whichccounted for and capitalized on all environmental pressures evolutioncei whenviation
that doesn't even make any sense
it doesn't make any falking sense to
he's eugenesis
suppose ity would be selected out
understood this way perfection means
natural selection is tauhts alogical
technician doesn't really tell you much
and i think this is where theory of soucial generation kind of falls apart proposent of soucial generation theory seem to think we shouchld mo forre strict moral codes in order to prevent a sort of a untable no
you're wrong
you're wrong
you're making an assumption i can even be the lawyer of those right wingers you're attack
you're not you're making a straw man do
believe causes societyes to collasse is what i was arguing his video that the role of conservatives is to preserve and us enforce traditional values
that things must be kpt within certain boundaries of acceptability and to go beyond them inevitably reverts us backwards but from an evolutionary standpoint
but
here's the problem
is that a lot of the things conservatives are talking about not that i agree with it but
dojw just come from
the subversion of norms without cret the creation of any new norms
so it literally only is this dwelling in this enjoyment of the collapse
that's why it's degenerate like furries
you know
point deviance is required deviation is the engine that drives evolution it is the only way to move
why is he fucking like hitler talking
about this
he's so passionate about
no deviation is not the only
way
whatever
no dude that's not how it works
it's just not how it works
animals
but the problem with
this thoughts line is that
you're talking in terms of biology and biology is profoundly conservative
because with biology deviations happen to animals
but the animals do not
become deviated by their actions
normative
you know their animals do
but
yet he's basically just saying change happens
biologically there's biological change
that's literally what he's saying there are biological changes
ok dude
but thej the engine driving those it changes is profoundly conservative it's a striving to be what is effectively the same
it's because an organism struck an organism
becomes
what is in the end the same
that there is change
you know how mutations usually happen it's usually when the fucking r nam d a
there's some mishap or some shit
and the r and
just does the same shit it was doing before and that's what fucking
something like that and that's what gives rise to an appearance of change
it change only happens
through
staying on course in terms of the evolution analogy so this is a horrible analogy
like there's no
striving toward change itself there is never a striving toward change or deviation
deviation is just a word we refer to
in the dialectic of
conservation
it's never fucking something that happens
for its own sake
contrast this to a lot of perverted people
who just like to deviate for its own sake
like you
with your dumb slimy aesthetic
move forward to try to free things in place and remove anying which deviates from the norm if we can't progress forwards we can only say the same or get worse to solve this problem a loten at some point in our history when we were a straw men
supposedly at our best and argue we must return to the values which we had at that point and make ourselves in our civilization as great as it was then to make america great
straw man
draw man
draw man
by the way you also do this thos line
because you arbitrarily create your own values
which were created sometime in the past
and every time anyone deviates from them you say well in this past point of time this was when we had the perfect position
like you do the same ship just on a different scale
and really usually go for anient roman sarta both which would have be incrediblech plas to live but that's what they like because
completely
failing to recognize the significance of renaissance neo classicism
and
age ofen enlightenment neo classicism he's reducing it to a naive vie about
and that they thought it was some ideal society
fucking idio dude this guy actually thinks the
idol is the
veneration of classical society was because they actually thought
that if they got into a time machine
life would be better back then
rather than the idea that there was something about those societies that was fundamentally forgotten
notwithstanding the normative
connotations of
that content but just the fact that
there was something in ancient greece and rome that was forgotten and
we're remembering it now
knows this guy never speaks in terms of objectivity he never speaks in terms of like
what is something fundamental about being we forgot
and nwur we're remembering he only thinks in terms of whether it's good or bad already
this is the key of these bread to bretards they only ever think in terms of normative
good or they're utilitarians they're anglo utilitarian
you know they're anglo utilitarian
it's all the fucking knowo
all they are
because it because it was they think ofby heving musccle or some shit but they hed contradiction
n know they don't
no one was that naive at all
do this way thinking is that those civilizations declined recreating conditions that led to the civilizations also recreates the conditions because the dialectic
of empires and urban cores
arising and then degenerating
is
the oldest wisdom in the book it wasn't some creation of nineteenth century
fuck in society or
which led to their decline is a philosophy of regression doesn' not allow the possibility that things can change for the better we perpetual save achieving our past glories before once again sinking into barbarism and some people in the far right actually embrace this otlok and the history is a cycle between these two extremes a perpetual
dude it's not just far right people it's also in marxis class struggle and angle said the same shit
such an idiot dude
like he's making an excuse for the corruption of urban society and he's
he's ironically saying like hey you know what
there is no corruption
it's all just a myth if we just get rid of the myth
you can be smile a smiley happy guy like me
you said to get rid of the myth
if you get rid of the trope in the cliche this is all bred to does ready
here's this strope in this cliche
and the only reason it exists is because
it those people aren't as smart as me and us and you and me and we have this wild and free subjectivity as opposed to this fixed and osified objectivity
therefore
we're above it
inherently superior and were smarter
and if only everyone was as smart as me
you'd have this smiley face like me
and the'll be no funggy problems
just get rid of your cliche man
get rid of your cliche man get rid of the bugin
cliche
it's this literally his aesthetic
it's literally his folkingess that
literally his aesthetic do
be slimy guys
yeah robal mcdonald
god i hate infrared
not what your mom said
hey it bridges to cliche go to hate inad
him and mop and i hate hm bo
you know what
you could be like ro like me mickey mos
well make a b
go on guys everything's fine and y
all you got to do is look go the cliches and have a small on your face and everything will be fine there's nothing wrong
everything you think is wrong is because
you love smoll on your face you ve
diums and stuf to
shift between weak strong authoritarian liberty good evil at best we can purge majterity and return the wisdom of
clich more clise clise
ancestors but inevitably our greatness is exploined in diminish by bad a
how many people like this shit seventy k views
you fucking idiots
and a new cycle of purging must begin your only hope is that you live on the right side of that coninlt
but to me that feels very myopic there is no return to the past the past no wonder
did you're so smart there's no returning to the past
w you're the first person ever think you're so smart
exists and cannot be recreated it can be learned from it can be instructive but the past is dead any tesmt to return to ptory roots will fail
but that's ok because the truth is we were never better there is no gettingck
you miss the significance of the idealization of the past they don't actually think you can return
eating you
that's not why people idealize
this guy doesn't understand mythology
he doesn't understand how myth mythology is for
doesn't understand
dude if you go to tribes in africa
they have creation stories about ancestors it's always about ancestors
doesn't matter where you go on this fucking earth
it's always about something originally happening in the past
that we descend from
it's always about ancestors dude
it's always about the past
and that's not because people are so naive so as to think you can just return to some
that's not how mithos work stood
the past is our poetry
it's our mythos and it's our way
of relating to the antecedent ground
of our being
in the present
that is how we describe and relate to
the thing that objectively precedes us
here and now
because
that which precedes us
so to speak or which is set before us as the ground of being
asserts its significance in the present tense
it's not about the actual past in the sense of a time machine
doctor who
time traveler
it's about the fact for example that there are things
we have a definite
not necessarily definite we have a ground of being set before us
the inability to assert control over is relevant in the present tense
this is the significance of the past
fuck infrared fuck him up his big stupid ass ok rouge
give you your best shot
better or worse there's just change and chank is a a ruse you can keep my ass
you can kick my ass dude
can you
he you can kick my ass guys
oh
can you wait so i'm finished sleeping
tomorrow
do i have to wake up
and beat you up now
yeah get in v c roof
i want to actually see how you sound
you said you can kick my ass i want to see how you sound
ruf get in my v c
i want to see how you sound
i'll see if you cann
biss
based on your words
always destructive some changes are go some changes make things better and if you want that if you want things to get better you have to be willing to risk that they might get worse in the long run though i think that things can to get better because you
to choose which changees stick and which don't
the good ones the ones we like sick the bad ones ones we don't tosw works you utilitarian fucking idiot
always got rid of the bg good and keep the bad win de b bit to bp in
back eventually that's how cultrees evolved the beauty of it is that we don't need to consciouslyuide that process just like we don't need to consciously choosehichmusic becomes the most popular the music most people like wll become most popular its own and the music that people don't like won't it to guide that
i says just freezes you in time it's ok
and what people observe is and considers degenerate will be considered degenerate
ever thought about that
and we figured out the correct way to be like you know there's a better way to bef you're missing out on i would argue the necessary prerequisite for the correct way to be is that people need to agree with it like i was would you know it's correct
so if you have to enforce it if you have to punish people for failing to recognize it if you have to excise and kill people who disagree
doesn't exactly sound like a
ok i kind of agree but
you don't necessarily have to punish people by recognizing there's aspects of our society which are degenerate
that doesn't necessarily imply punishing
bo
for it
it also means recognizing there's something more fundamental about our society that gives rise to that degeneration
that was the soviet view
instead of punishing the effect
you
address the cause
the natural emergent morality you claim it is that every other culture that is going to do this apears ridiculous bitrary and cruel hindsight inqosition likewise that they achive the most advanced more your culture their time it was their job protected from dangerous deviansh wanted tout the outar
ok now he's going to talk about the inquisition
more cliches more fucking mockery of basic history this guy has no historical knowledge what'so fucking ever
and your face makes you look like
now roush is quiet where is rouche
where's rouche who can kick my ass
with dangerous ideas like letting white people read the bible to sum up the word de generate expresses and prett fuck
yeah do that the inquisition was totally what you're saying
that's totally what it meant
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that attitudes it means that some meas either biologically or culturally backwards and does
no fucking doesn't
but there's a puzzle link between cultural and biological inferiority do i know it has nothing to do with biology you're such an idiot
that this is what most people mean when they say it no
ok at least you admit that
let me hear what you have to say
clearly not for a second i'm not cancelling body just relax like it doesn't like cover for the people definitely doing me it that way people who want to o in the door to discuss jacs with ordary social control mesters or
ok so what's your point about those people
ho having the best cell phones makes us theermment or whatever sos of consense help make them feeltter about themselves it's suits their agenda the concept like that is used by normis helps popularze their fuck excuses to start teing people the yeah but use the issue thoughts slime and you had me there but now i see your
talking bullshit
they are their interpretation of degeneracy
doesn't have to be the one that acquires a gemany
so this idea that the way in which millions of people are using it is confirming them
a exclusively is wrong
ok
because the soviets view of degeneracy is also being
for
so maybe you should have a better analysis of what people mean by degenerate
instead of the one you put forward because the one you put forward just incriminates those millions of people
as inadvertently realizing the aims of
eugenesis or fascists
but that's not the only way you have to interpret it
that's the issue thought lime
you have to be less slimy
you don't white
so maybe that's something we should
should wehould think about
everybody knows a they're going to speak for some reason my ok
not impressed with that video atll
not impressed with that video whatso
o i'm going to wash my hands
clean out m
prosin shape
and we're going to have rouche come in my v c
because i want to know who this rouch guy is
rouh get in the v c now
rouf
get in my v c right now
rouge in my v c i'm going to wash my hands and clean this out i want you my v c
given my v cro
rouche and he's w you se im to take a businit
ice i just think of i lose
is ru sier
wheres rouche
he's not here wi a pussy
yeah what a chicken
anyway guys one of th was thinking abt i was taking a piss
why is
fucking thoughts slime talk about eugenics
when isn't there a new victorian kind of eugenesistic morality
that's woke in nature like for example
i
like people in the third world
or whatever and developing countries
are more backward
and are not as inenlighted in
and how much steps away are they from saying that it's like
oh that's because it's their genetics that they're not as woke
and they have you know more backward views and shit
he is a maufusian he is
he's a malfusian
i feel like that's the real fuck in you genesis
like people like nick land and shit
it just kind of
they don't represent anything nick land doesn't represent any real force in society
but thought slim kind of does you know
you know i'm saying
where's ruch
mauth thusianism is a schitzoid mean
ok
but it's a real thing
malfusianism is a real
it's the fucking left
the current left is mothu
some malfusian let
malthusian
let
joe galman infrared is actually a trans man wo it's my achilles heel you just hit my achilles heel
where these haters coming from
is it foss line
where the haters coming from
who brought you here
who brought you here
yeah jude you got me
n nick
the know mold bug knows peter to you but
even peter teal
i feel like i don't
i feel like i used to overestimate that whole dark enlightment shit
and i haven't been seeing a lot of results
i feel like what
like the google
elites
believe is probably more fucked up than like what mold books
you know
like i feel like mold bug is not like
ultimately
think
you
to define mal thusianism
do the left is all about
limiting growth and all that's the logic of a cancer cell and growth is going to kill us
yeah liberalism is malt
someone is sending them
maldusian disas
agent
cochinski fans
vost people
dark in line was a mean i think so too
honestly i do
hey guys want me to play games or no
or no one wants me play games because that's when everyone leaves
when i go i play oblivion
everybod
i bet you're friends with caleb
yeah i'm friends with i want to be friends with caleb
not leftism today
leftism today is
irrelevant
perhap
irrelevant
you talked about the booglo today you need to
have the guy defend himself
who
and you plan on ever debating with dark enlightenment
people
maybe
maybe
play the ards at
andver i'm moving the twitter logo around whoops
let me check discord
that
and let's put the shit up guys
i'm really tempted to do something i don't want to do
but
i don't know
nobody else is online it's just me online
dark souls oh fk i forgot to donal dark souls
you guys always want me to play like old games like day a sex and marwin but then you boot m up
' not fun join general v c
why what's going on
at six pm tomorrow with caleb
what's going on in general
and
ah
i don't want to go in general
i love jim
it's actually two momuch
we
magnus pivt id md you on twitter
who is that
who are boogloo boys
are you ok
play dead stranding my computer can't run it
either halo
or oblivion
halo or oblivion
only those two
federally is going down is go to make it on the moonen a mo
philosophy tubes housing video
i'm a federally
should i hear homs say and
get a little high i comes and momk
i have some c b d and shit to help me sleep
should i take that right now
should i take c b d and i
and h
t h c right now
help me sleep
i'm a federally
i'm a federal dude i have a such a mixed chat
what game
i'm going to let you gys choose helo
oblivion
and what other options do i have
i don't want to play vyard chat so it's not going to be ano
these are literally the only options ok
great pool
share
i'm sharing the poll right now
vote right now what you want i'm a federal
i'm a feder i'm going down broadway
be in a federal
i'm a feder
i go down broadway
i need you guys to fucking vote
while i order food
i'm a federt why am i singing this fucking song i don't even know what it means
results
uhhuh
as soon as i order food i'm going to take the c b d
shit
and hopefully it'll reset my sleeping schedule and i'll be ready for k b
yeah i know it takes an hour to kick in so i'll be knocked out at two am hopefully
or three am
because i'll probably stay up a little bit
but
worre can i order some food
i
think i'm just going to get some
actually i know that i know exactly what i'm going to order
because i'm going to order it because you know
are you a federally because i'm not
but if that's your stick
by all means
you know don't let me
stand in the way of that
it's just that
it's not
my
you know
why should i go on v arch i mean
c chat why
do you want to upload the real nimble vod
ah neat i just need a thumbnail
for the licencal pill one but you are free to upload it on your channel
but i
you are free to upload onr channel if that's youssing please upload under channel
i
you're free to do that dude
absolutely free to do that
but we do need a thumbnail for the licencle pill
one
we need thumbnails for a lot of videos we haven't released yet actually
now that i think about it
we need thumbnails for a ton
dude everyone loves oblivion
everyone voted for oblivion
or yeah
why is it so split down the middle
all right hold on
can you
in case you read some recommendation ok hold on i got to do something
ah
cotries
cause i don't give a fuk anymore
i don't give a fuck anymore
i don't give a buk
you know what i'm going to i'm going to get some nasty shit guym some burger sliders and sh i'm
ab to get those sliders you know
s
nasty
some nasty she
oblivion character was hilarious
damn dude i'm about to take this c v d sh
anyone you guys all voted
only forty seven people voted
all right my food's going to be here at two am
that's fine
mingus is funny
i'm kind of sick of reacting to shit
guys want to be honest mommy be honest i kind of do want to play hey loe
am i wrong for saying that
i kind of do want to play heyloe
but
i think everyone wants oblivion
so we're going to do oblivion
rush is back
is in the v c
where is he
he's not in the v c though so where is he
oh get in the fucking v c then
you beitch
get in my focking v c
roushe given v c
i'm waiting for him
hold on we're going to hear roos fors
pussy vert
rouche
boh
my ro my mike is
i'll make a video for me you're a pussy dude you don't want to talk to me directly so you have to make a video
that's why you're a bitch
exactly your bitch you can make a video because your mike is broke
rouge
the pussy rouge davies
he doesn't have a channel i can look up
ruche davies
call me a puss
everyone here is a fugking troll
he's in the show queue
no he's not
he's not in the show cque
there's callahan in august in the show q
i know callahan
callahan school
rousch is nowhere to be found
that's not ruf
oh he is callahan
is this rouche
hello
a little
yes this rouche
now this is not rushi this is callahan
oh sorry brl get they were telling me you're sorry about that man
yes im sorry but this's ok
yeah
yeah i'm a liberal i know they were going to get me on the call you know what i'm
a ofvi
yeah
that's not rush guys
ruh is a bitg stdude
he said he's going to make a video ok lethim make his video
i'm tired
i'm tired of it
let him make his vig
fox
he this is your chance rou
proceed
we're going to have a chill stream
ok
because i'm going to take this shit
i'm tuning out the negativity
understand
what happened to this
h here
yeah i know callahan's awesome but i'm just a little tired you know
we're going to play a game for a few hours
mon beer back in wasington
i don't know dude
i want to play halo oblivions kind of depresses me now you know
you know why oblivion depresses me is because the world in it is so empty
because i've just experienced it all already
so i'm going to play some halo
i'm playing some haylone
kind of listen
want to listen to
what food did i order
some sliders and a sand
to that
on
thoughts on the mark
i'm my cincle pill brom
hundred percent leicen
so you got to hunderstand
hold on
i don't have a lo for but i wish it
the fogy crash
ok hello crash
moner
sit
to this crash
maybe i can't listen to music
problem
i don't know what's wrong with
i
crash
ho to restarted
what happens every time
i'm restarting now
ah last week
slaughtering
hold on
hello
hopefully it works guys
i don't know why we can't listen to spotify
call from the f b i
yeah because i'm a glowy apparently
you have two point zero one case subscribers
wow
super cool
what unrute i don't know
at this point
i don't have time for n
you know
connection to the game session was interrupted
i think it's because of the
halo to anniversary
but it was working last time
you
m
due to this stream gets copyrighted
going to be so
morning
i really don't want to
but it might
it might just
o
it worked
pokers
which philosophy do you hate the most
stull respect
all of them i hate all fos
foo
i don't know
but the fuck my keyboard and mouse doesn't work
i have to use a p s four controller
i have to use the p s foror controller
keyboard and mouse doesn't work
fine
oh my god
wait
who's this blazewolf that sounds familiar
who's blazewol
ist not a view of ours
isn't blazewolf someone we know
isn't blaze wolf someone we know guys
by
bucky bitch
think i got time
don't
thk it
you these are all sweaties sweaties fuck and low life sweaties
turn up the game audio
a sure
find
yeah i turn it up
see
turned it up
and
oh i'm i chose the game pad only people using game pads are playing this right now
i had to choose like a different server
to play with the mousing keyboard
oh okay now i know why i have to use a pi s for for using a pi s for for
do this my first time playing this in like twenty years the give me a fucking break
you guys see that that's how it is
we tell you how it is
don't worry about how it is guys
i tell you how it is
i'll show you how it is guys clip that and ship that
fokan m l g skills right one shot oh shit what is going on
there's never going to be a fucking hael play you understand
what the folk i got a rocket launcher
this is easy mod we're talking about this
he'sy more
excuse me i don't know where the shit has come
thoghts on bernstein
the mayns steam mayors
don't they say
that the the mandela effect
the
bang bang sock me down bang bang i hit the ground bang bang an awful sound bang bang
theyby the ground
i was nin
she was young
and then
dd bang bang she sot me down
bang bang i hit the ground bang bang it all go down
bang bang
my baby shot me down
bucky who is blaswolf dude i know this guy
somehow i know him
bubble kill that's how we do this game understand
it'll mess around
that's how we do it
so we do it
this is how we do it
bye bye this
bye bye beitch
see that
i'm on a four kill kill street
you guys think i don't know how to play this game cute
bye bye blaze wolf
guys think i don't know how to play this
mm
what is my least favorite book
anything written by stevehn pinker
bang bang they shot me down
same thing it the ground
bang bang that all you sound
thing thing
look at that guys
unlimited kills unlimited kills
looksce
where you go
w you go enemies gone
four
mm rd
why don't i like stephen pinker
because his hair looks stupid
he's trying to look like sir isaac newton or some shit
he such a pseudo intellectual fate
and uh
yeah
fve bitch
i just ended the fucking game a tea bag you
guys check of my twitches on ban
my twitch on band
check
check of my twitches on band
ya
how do i do with and caps
tell them that
theyre utopian socialists and we already live in socialism
their mind will break
it's not on band
hold on
the game just crashed
why the folk crash
here's what i want to do
wheres m c c right here
and test
close i'm going to stop this
troller nonsense and we're going to
run this
w
ferryman
i'm starting up haaylo again
i don't know who fair min is
why do you
there's only one guy yeah
bang bang a help me down
bang bang i hit the ground
bang bang that awful sound
bang bang
my baby shot
be down
the menu froze again
p game aor just
need a new p
literally all i need is a new
i just need a new p c
but i'm going to keep trying
going to try
bang bang s we don
bang bang that awful sound
bang bang i hit
ground
bank bank
my baby shut down
magnus who is magnus
whatever happened to belarus i have no idea
okay let me look up m c c freezes on
m c c menu
rease
my uh
apparently you have to wait a couple minutes for it to onfreeze
should we do that or should we just play another game
what do you think is the future of education in the post cod world
i think
i don't know do
his education over
because this zoom shit doesn't seem like it's sustainable
just doesn't
and
ninety nine percent of what
it's about
actual education
is mainly about
the social a
we might have to play oblivion
let me try one more time to boot it up
i'm going to try one more time
butiside
what did you haved me in the chat about
where is he
one
gon guys the many better work
the many works
we're in a guys
you were
we're to do
weirre still a multiplayer
social games and then
how do i make it so that
we can make our preferred
input device mouse and keyboard
saves
why i'm banned now
i have to wait one minute and then i'm on beacd
after one minute i'll be on bcd
just like twitch
i'm banned from mag me
literally just like twit
hold on one second guys
once s i
s my microsmuter
i haven't read what you're talking about
i
god damn it
all right
halo just doesn't work
so we have to play oblivion
we have to play a blue game
we don't even have a choice
we're going to play olivion
what's my beef with
communists
the's just a lot of gatekeepers dude
the gatekeepers spok and hate me
then ventures of mingles slatness
mingus is back
mingus is back in action
ya
i
we need lock picks
so we probably have to go into a cavern or something
get some lock picks
that way we can open the dark brotherhoods door
i'm not downloading dark sols right now but i should download it
but i have a feeling that gam is going to crash too but i actually want to download it
maybe i'll download dark souls
overnight
and then after we talk to cabb tomorrow on twich we can play dark sols three
why or two which i get dark sools two or three
i have both which one should i download
we're going to go inside this cavern because the
i need the lock fig
fucking useless structure
you want to see his face
he actually kind of looks like me
three
everyone hates to h
i thought sho was the best one according to everybody
you want three
yeah i'll downo three
hopefully i can run it
our guys are going to grab some walk paks from this dungeon
what
yh
you
why am i over cumbered
but
oh my god
oh shit
this is not easy
we
ok i got
and this is all i get
ok
d g g s strong opinions what are the opinions
what did you what do think about me
what do they think about me i'm curious
the voss debate was one hundred percent serious
i think d g g likes me right
do you say she actually likes me
they said i was nauseble
g did
i would expect a osh
to call me that
let's get these lockbits
i
saving
mingsh latness the fourth
i think i'm a low cow
that's a cope dude
they love me
d g g loves me dude
g g loves me do they're just coping
serious debate i don't know what i would debate
you know i don't have a strong opinion on you do
said john zerk is my cousin
a you guys leave irk out of
no fi
p
mm
everyone
literally
the first thing they did was compare me
so forth
hh
what am i mlistening
should i should i be kind of sneaking around this place
i'm not finding any treasure
i mean
have to go all the way
they're super sympathetic
really why
we we neion
what the fulk is that
pent it's a trap
they all died
oh no
oh that was a big fail that was the biggest fail
thats the
shit it's so hard to fulk in perry
thank you
getting good at this game
you know it's the oldest game i eflect
way
should i grab this big
big thing
claim more
plamors do a lot of damage
should i grab it
i could carry you
god i need lock peed
whit lock picks are so rare
to they're so rare
any thoughts on the politics of syrial the just mes last time
ho
oh
the foc is the
oh he died
wow
play doun
bc i'm not going to play dode
plain ofblivian rin
thank
oh who sit
any lock picks
and i moveun on the
i want to say
pk
think i need a torch
i can't see she
and i have no torches
a way to do
have on a
is it like a hockey for oblivion
what i think of animals
but the fuk my sword broke
that's a rare sort to my fockus so it just disappears
weh i can repair
well this was the same in the
stats right
that's fine
ok there's way too many o
is there
caaviana or
please
you know
all this for lock beaks i'm literally only doing this to find a fucking lot
it's so stupid
we're down here and there's nothing
thing
follow
oh n
this
think i would have to jump
there's nothing
ingsh needs to find some lack pick
ordy showingn getting a guard batherhod shink you weary
inflamely gt rich
mingish jump
what did this do
good does this
what am i missing here hah
is this a puzzle
this is quite strange maybe this is part of a quest
im waning to go back
and then take the other route
this is probably
conversationality
so national
te
m
i'm an apprentice
now
oh my god this sword is way better than the silver one
d you there's gloways in the discord jus get over it
there's nothing we can do is
you know
just
just assume there's going to be os in the discord ok just assume it
just as soon as chloie's okay
we need to lock it
the silver sword is so heavy
ok where do i get lock
just where do i get to
this is the only spell you fulk in
hm
oh my god
place is so big
become big under distance
what are you talking about
o
oh s
why you have a repair hammer
these you guys want to know something
these dungeons in oblivion are so much more complex
and the ones in skyro
right
need some lone
to
there's nothing done
nothing at all
nothing at all
when i'm with you i feel like we're not the
and a all
aer
you got to have your broccoli
or desert
one
i'm going to wash my hand
you know
nothing at all
you do
vegetables
of
to get him
getting vegetables out of a bag
fucking bags
course
i europ
when i'm with you or feel like wearing nothing
not theing at all
hassan grew out with dejstiny
yeah
you know what's going on
we are in a temporary
right now
it appears we're more aligned with d g g
but it's just an appearance
in reality
we represent something so new
i'm not taking a far break
i'm washing my hands because
getting sticky food on
time to eat some junk food
nothing at all
sent
what if i debated saying
the reason i don't hate hisssan is it's because
sank is his family
so what do you really expect
no
oh yeah i am b sure my d
i would win
did sentk ever debate alex jones
do you ever debate alex jones
yeah hassan does obsolete
listen
his son used to be cool
hassan in twenty nine theusen was kind of cool
then he became cringe
because the burnie campaign made him cringe
has san's problem is that
he is bound by his family
like why does the son hate jimmy dore
i did it
it's a game of thrones
you got to be royal to the house
alright
i wash my hands again so
no
now
was office lock
you don't have hand sanitizer
soap and water guys
i went in his dungeon for no reason there's really nothing here
but on
we have to go somewhere else
guys you realize the way to get rid of
the virus is only because the soul
it's not because the soaps chemicals
destroy the virus
because with soap and water
it sticks to the virus particles
accidentally
because it's
ah
yeah and sanitizers and even work and sanitizers pointless
for the virus
you guys know that
you went full blown
blue mager
how was he blue magna dude he wasn't he was he was voting for true biden
the problem was the opposite hiss son
was selling everone to go buy the
or what is blue mag
well now he's really at that stage but
the chance the chance to do that is gone you can't show for them and then
conveniently distance yourself from them
when you're the reason
when you
made that choice to
go out of your way to vote for them instead of use that time to build an alternative
oh hyperproben
go
sir
not i'm new
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i'm going to sch
do i have to go year
oh
double masking
i mean if it makes you feel safer
see the harmon
i just want to get out of this place
i'm done with this place
i just want to lea
yeah you can't show yourself for a candidate
biden's dogs twitter account is so
unbelievable
oh
just beyond
threshold
abysmal
we're getting out of this fuk
fur
final
we just need some lock
i
we just need some w
just need some
just need
i'm a cat boy
oh dude i just like tiger
t
we
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i'm
that boy
yeah
shit sor
much
do
you
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i just need a lot
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i just need a lot
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guys look at a tiger and tell me it's not the most beautiful
thing and
know cats are like my spirit animal because
but not in the frereway
saying but it's like
actually kind of rules are in dog i don't know roves kind of are too
so i don't know which worre
but i know i feel like cats you know like a fucking
i do something about a lie
saye
best
i never embarrassed
you embarrass
rod
i know you are but what am i
now
when i'm proud to be in a meserygin were at least i no i'm free
and not do the day
strongly do the men who fight
for me and next to you
theann were before
i'm proud to be an american
feel like
cats
the way they
weine and john
they're very
they land on their feet
n
what made you start making com
just
was sick of complaining about
fsh
here's what made me
want to make come
it was i was sick
of the left
being how it was
and i'm proud to be a canadianrese may fol is free
and i'm pro to
ride the moose where can go for moor be
and i'm proud to be commy
and i won't forget the man who din who fight for me
you we do
yeah very socialist lyrics
through
america has its own
grand
thanks
you know what i mean
how
far does this fores go
temp
where where am i going
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right
i didn't
honestly i forgot about these places in oblivion where shuss like fort
you know
this game feels bigger than skyrim because of shit like this skyrim
feels like really small world you know
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vegans watch
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beg
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vegans
you the all betch
be going down
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can you catch a deer in obliviion
i am the warrior of the line
i am the sword in the night
and the shield
that
guides
the land of syridan
i am the samor and my nose sticks out my head is for this is an anglo run
this is a super anglo run
i i run for
running for to my destiny
christopher robin runs for to his destiny
nw he's making it quite to the more
this is quite the jolly old run
he's running past the finish line
eh he's carrying
foster and foster
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because i'm proud to be were at least i no on'm free
and not go down man who died in the man who fired for me
and i bro the stairs you n down no down down
and i'm proud to be a convey
wre all it's a town
it's a it's a castle
everyone look at the conssule
the cost of but making it towards the cost of
we're going to reach the cost of everyone
caose and finally
there are some things in my way
we going to the colls
phon on
for none
what an elegant stride
i'm going to run into some ad she
like what
w we doing karaoke
soon
back onu when we get on switch we're going to do way more w you on
like our twitch streams are going to be next level
to which streams are going to be
next level
but i'm proud to be barbarino
but b you have lock picxer
oh i'm a citizen now i'm part of the watch myself
here di we goet on the horse
let me on
okay
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yeah it's not even folking obliuant it's fall or
the sa
what do you mean what lady you're just in the middle of nowhere and this is all you got to say
sorry
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pro
ok
oblivion
i love oblivion because it says random n b c s running around
just like washes discord
and i'm found to be a canadian
stream is still banned
when does it get on band
ned
you remember when we were exactly bann
does anyone remember that
i think it was around this time
oh no it was pass four am
yeah dude i remember it was like
five am
foror five am the streem is going to be unben
going to be yh on b
that's a
tomorrow morning
i think i have to log in and then get
you were sleeping
need what time is it where you are
skin grass
support the truth
boys get back lok locktics
this is like strick f for
nicnak icnak
now
welcome
alot
may i you
you
no my
you got anything
it's one molck pick only one
we can finally do the dark brotherhood
good
maybe she has
that was the it's the only lock pick in the game by the way
eight am
and dude
play t s six is going to look like the nicest p s three game
yeah the graphics are going to suck probably
we can finally open this house in the dark brotherhood
can continue our quest line
minguss quest line will be completed guys
it will be continued
can open this fucking door now
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let's
see
we had to get a fucking lock
mmhmm
if i lose his lig
the end of the road guys
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have you heard about the good word of our lord nn
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you ever heard of him
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sister
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wait a fuck and second
this isn't the basement
to me
warmest greetings to you
i trust you've already spoken with ochiva
i am thevi gentl
i provide a sign
they're all new
please
do not let my appearance
unknown
the needs and tenants
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brotherhood come before my own kneed
deovember
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with yourf
contract
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that
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get into the habit of asking your fellow family members about
let's leave the sam ten
plaace
please
what
put the phone
in the training
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wake up
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going back to the waterfront
what was the mean
oh that was yeah
that was
your
we're in
they talked about a trap door on the bell
some door on the bell
well th was a self evident
fortunate
pce it wasn't even real place
you must die good sir
is that ok
you i want to be crewe
more in place
you a't wane of me crew
best start
plain in this
you want to get off
buty
well basically
what do you
one of them
you want to fight might on god
i'll be taking that pired sword you got the
a i supposed to be impressed
i'll take that
it with the lusty argonian hate
sre
when you saw it go bk
weere
i
we're coming
where did the fpoking slorl go
where did the fucking sword go
the frocking sword
his sord
she's going
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county
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we can't
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i mean that's not
i don't know do to sa
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that's what we're here
oh my god
very ared
the guy who was mocking caleb
i don't know dude
i was in there
how folk is a that as
there any way to like
fucking
oh you could have jumped from there to here
i see how
this is what you would do
this
you don't even have to
that even worse
i didn't watch parasite
i've never watched hears
i'm kind of
not really like
press
by where i heard about it
o
but maybe i'm
in for f
a federaly guy
guys uss a really cool hack you can actually get on the roof of these places
can be on
later me
see this guy
should i be a fucking serial killer maniac
lls
like hole
that
charles dickens is a good art
our author
trade in hale awaits
shade and all
kill everyone
and i become more powerful
monday i
kill everyone in the
down
and you
cannot
stop me
you have a problem with that
big
be
what i done
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mean if she's the one in charge you know
if i show my here repeat
from you
i'm going to drag your back
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focking gates where
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fit
me
ming
get got it buck
door
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but
look at meter roadway
you look at me the run way im a but you have been
you know never want to get med the wrong way
you really
bd
tell the feds to double your rate
the feds are smart
pull the shit off
you actual like why
you got this is people for
like why would a glowy know about hiding
you know
lowas an't as smart as
there was
yeah if i was a fed then they would give me a better
you
exactly
to
want to play games
want to consume
consume
need a soy soon
i need assue
soon
you
open this door
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yeah
what
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i'm glad you
we need you to stage and
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as i
the target is a woodll
named ain
bain then you will find him at his home in broom broom
into secretly and avoid his man servant
girl girl
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inside of the fa
loosen those fastenings any night
between eight pm and
binlin will die for certain
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meanit we reporting for duty
boarding for duty
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know
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kidding me
by ilan
high degred atheist
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law school because
i don't want to do math
n don't want to do
as people are smelling
i don't want to
have to be a fucking doctor
that
i don't want to have to ave
amlely swab people
in't want to be like
know that close
ran
strange
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reguarding the
the other one engineering is too much man
it's allwazy
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is there another one
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ah binelin
mainland you
fking media
you didn't foking think you'd be this easy
didn't think it mad this
walking easy not ned jerm
is you
you didn't think itd be
by a litle
and sug my dear
mainland
sudden
thank you
the bitches there
i go to get my rarle
i'm going to go out the front fucking
s a guard hean
oh grom
still
oh this guy was patrolling the house the whole time
a ram i'm sorry dude i didn't mean it
but the guards can do with you growd
not
probably a top law school
oh
i don't go to michigan university
kill ground guys he s attacking for no reason
thelese guys are innocent i did nothing wrong and he sjust attacking for no reason
groam please
sar ud
my opinion on george how bash
but
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he bingman died
oh i don't get the bonus now
vin you i take your goal
thisse quest are super easy
selling merchant
going to sell your merge soon
it's all going down
soil
uhmm
do the first step of monetization is going to be twitch amazon prime sub
and you guys just use your amazon primes
you don't have to pay any money
i don't i really am
on the one hand
we have to monetize this show
if i'm going to do this full time
on the other hand
i don't want to
ask you guys for money
m
i feel like i still feel like
we have to prove ourselves more because you know what fucking kill me guys
you sent me money
and it's like we weren't able to be coman
you know i want to
i want to
i want to prove ourselves first
a
and make sure we're fucking viol
you know
you are
well
i have to talk to this folkm guy
the bainman is dead yes
but you did not fuill the give me fifty goals
forcused by this misfortune you are ready for advance
i appoint you slayer for the don
i'll go
and continue to serve
back
as always
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multi billion corporation show
at what point do you say you're viable
and we have like a thousand average
for
more than like a moth
but i don't know
we can wait that
twitch is going to change it
twitch will change everything you know
yeah
well here's what i would do
i would do a i would make livability money
and the rest of might the money would go into the stream somehow
and if
like the money will be accounted
for i guess
ideal that's what i want
but als would probably ned money for like a rainy day you know
security
i don't fucking n
i'm not worrying about it right now
oh
mm
yeah i
boss ugly
shade and all of the horrble
don't mean nothing to you
you was the out
stay out
just stay outside
what am i supposed to do now
into the imperial oh that bitch
it's the guy who talks shit about me
and he's over here
in the imperial prison
i think they want me to go into the sewer again
go back through the
i might this right back where we started
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a youo beinen
why you gota get a shame and
and number two which you couldn't do bainlin
hey binin wh you got to run
must s what's coming for you stray
whyre you got to run
you cannot ever risk
where you going to go
mus swords flying through the air
bainan don't you see
be i'm over there
badlin whe you go
don't you know you can run from me
bay then where did you go
because it's flying through the air
the blade is com in fast
and hit you not down in the air you're going to get sliced in
don't you know were to go
the prey always run a way but
the dark brotherhood always knows
how do jump and attack
assessince grade do you know
that's so where we go
i don't want to go on this fucking sewer were was i fine thoughts line
i don't go in sewers
i don't go in the sewer i don't go in the du
i don't go in the garbage can
i'm stay in outside where the sun always shines in the goblins can kick the can
hey i don't go in sewers night
not even during the day
i don't go in sewers a night
not even during the day
not even during the day
i look
to the ocean look to the riseon
turn my back on that sue
we got thoughts lonm for
and bred to wre noder looking right in that sewer
but
i turn around then see the sun in the sky in the bright new day
i turn my back on the sewer the sewer knows where to go were
i'm in the sewer at night
but i'm there going in the day
im in the seword the me is here to stay
and i go to the end of the dachsun
whered all the mermaids go
but meing is knows that the only thing that is losing
here's the show
n i got a thing hear to to say we this
cursi
where the seauls run in the seaguls go when their flo were their big wings span
goos me just serius
here to conqer rething inside
and me this will
be the one who's god it all right
zumbing
look
down into the ocean and i'm squatting through the breeze
me is
god
tell you
some theing
something that you'll be because we're going down back
through the roam where mes
came from
but at the beginning of the stream you got remember
it's we gota go but'm going to sleep in the stream is ending at this hour of night
and i know it's quite early but i want to get to bed so i can
not miss my fly
goodbye everybody what a wonderful day and the meing guest will miss you too