Haz vs xZerkzi | InfraredShow Debate

hello

yeah

i want you to think that i'm gonna like

you know attack you or anything but

so i understand that the netflix uh you

know strike was definitely a movement of

like you know the professional

managerial class

yeah um but

you know how would you feel if

let's say not maybe not dave chappelle

but some other comedian

uh came on to stage and started saying

like

you know like anti-islam jokes

um

or maybe

you know uh anti-china stuff like that

like

those sentiments are still held by

most of the people of america right

would you say

yeah they don't i've i've seen comedians

who said islamophobia stuff a lot of

right a lot growing up

yeah so like

so but for the trans stuff like that's

so would you say that's okay like with

the

anti-islam jokes if you're gonna talk so

i'm a muslim right so i can speak on

this

yeah my father's muslim too if i have if

there's a comedian who's gonna go on

stage and just be authentic about what

they really think about islam and

muslims

because dave chappelle was just being

super authentic about like where he's

coming from and he's joking and [ __ ]

i would actually see that as like a way

uh someone who's genuinely interested in

branching out and just actually

initiating a kind of um you know

a way to actually like come to a mutual

understanding right so to me

let's say they were making fun of islam

and they were making fun of muslims and

all this kind of [ __ ] you know i think

that would i would not have an issue

with it i'm going to be honest i would

not have an issue with it okay i mean is

there like anywhere you would draw the

line like because i don't you know who

stephen crowder is right

yeah

so like i mean you know like he says

like disgusting things right like would

you agree with that yeah probably too

far things here's the thing is that

i don't believe in cancelling anyone i

believe in dealing with [ __ ] on its own

terms if you can't speak dave

chappelle's language if you can't speak

if you can't

like channel your position through the

language of comedy and be successful i

don't think there's any truth to the

position like if you can't like say the

truth through comedy i fundamentally

don't believe

your message has any meaning or truth to

it whatsoever

so there's truth in like what dave

chappelle said about trans people like i

mean i understand that i understand

there's truth in it because i understand

like your perspective is like you know

if it's if it's genuinely a genuinely

held belief by you know the people then

there's some truth in it but like no

that's not really what my [ __ ] that's

not really where i'm coming from where

i'm coming from is that

dave chappelle was expressing his honest

and authentic

uh you know

understanding

between what he perceives to be black

people and the white lgbt community

okay so

he's

he's just and he's being very diplomatic

by the way i should add he's being

extremely diplomatic i know people from

minority communities and from the black

community

and if you really knew what their real

views were on on this kind of [ __ ] like

you would not be able to interact with

normal human beings you know like i'm

sorry the [ __ ] people believe

on the internet and what they believe in

real life is very very different

yeah i agree with that but like is there

um so there's kind of you have to have

some kind of tolerance for bigotry then

like is that like

what you would would you agree with that

like you like if that's just kind of the

sentiment then

that's um

what do you mean

like you know you're saying like you

know the regular people like not you

know on twitter and [ __ ] like that like

um they don't hold the same thing

right bigotry but i don't i don't view

it as bigotry i don't know what you're

talking about is bigotry

well uh so

you know i guess just the uh like poking

fun i i know what you're saying like

dave chappelle it's not like he was um

you know severely so i wanna see if you

can address something dave said right

okay

so

dave talked about how there was a

hip-hop artist who literally killed the

guy

yeah nobody cared in that situation yeah

but when he was when he said something

insensitive about sexual minorities it

became an issue what is up with that

uh well the when he killed that guy it

was a self-defense he didn't go to jail

or anything like that it was it was a

self-defense but there's so many hip-hop

artists who have actually killed people

and it's not in self-defense it's a part

of like you know some gang warfare some

[ __ ] nobody cares

yeah

you're right about that but so

then

so we should say that's bad because if

we also if the pmc all of a sudden says

uh okay we're no longer we will have we

have a problem with uh you know rappers

talking about murder

i think i think you're looking at this

from the wrong perspective right i am

not trying to prescribe new cancellation

measures i'm just trying to understand

truth what does it mean that they don't

care about this i think that attests to

the fact

that

cancellation culture is not about like

real world harm and real world humanism

or any of this kind of stuff

you know

it's something else entirely but

just trying to pat like let's say i

point out there's a hole in your ship if

you run down to patch the hole you

you're not addressing why there was a

hole in your ship in the first place and

that's what that's what dave chappelle

is trying to say when it comes to like

hip-hop artists and rappers they've

literally murdered people but when it

comes to political correctness and like

no one cares they only care if you say

something insensitive or politic and

politically incorrect

yeah i get what you're saying i i do i

do understand that um

yeah i don't know i guess i don't know

why that is i mean maybe maybe you'd

have some insight on that but um

yeah i i you know that's that's really

all i want i'm not gonna debate you like

you know like i said i'm you know not a

hater or anything like that um i just

kind of wanted to see what you would say

uh if you know if instead of like trans

uh jokes he was telling like

islamophobic jokes or you know

cinephobic jokes or something like that

um

just to see if you know maybe the

perspective would change but

um

yeah i mean i don't know that's really

all i wanted to say yeah i mean like you

know

i don't

i don't

so i i i think i struggle to understand

something right i struggle to understand

the way in which leftists try and filter

reality through language and i struggle

to understand like isn't it just a

copium mechanism

isn't it a way of like avoiding what we

authentically feel and believe in the

name of like

a

moral a strictly and purely moral

language

that is meant that is like held on bond

of absolute

morality like if you

don't

be politically correct then you're you

may as well be like committing genocide

against five trillion people or you know

a billion people like

it's it's just this extreme moral

language where i feel like people adopt

these this politically correct mentality

because they feel like

if they're violating one thi one you

know

speech

thing

they may as well be like that it's like

it seems like the linchpin of their

entire morality

well i mean would you agree that

some speech has like you know real world

like negative consequences like you know

you know there's a lot of you know uh

transphobia and stuff like that and dave

chappelle didn't do anything to prevent

you know he kind of played into it fed

into it a little bit and

you know isn't it isn't it conceivable

that um you know like uh

so a trans person might get murdered you

know because they you know somebody

thinks that they're you know not

acceptable or whatever like

i just don't buy that

see that's what i'm trying to talk about

it's like people are saying like oh dave

chappelle because of his comedy skit is

going to lead to murder i just think

that's just so bizarre to me like he he

was being politically incorrect

and therefore murder i i just don't

you know what i'm saying i don't

i don't know why language is held to

that standard

of

like it's held on bond of extinction and

just death

well i mean so

like uh i remember like a while ago in

georgia there was that guy who went to

like the asian salons or parlors

whatever the hell it was and like

shot them up like don't you think that

maybe the media having uh

like anti uh

chinese sentiment like you know like

saying like the you know coronavirus

came from china or whatever all this you

know but a bunch of terrible stuff about

china and the media and stuff like that

like don't you think that

that played into that yeah but you could

just as easily say that people who um

critique china's government leads the

same result

right and i don't i have no doubt that

it does contribute to anti-asian

sentiment in the united states

especially right now

but

you know

to me it's like

i don't think by suppressing speech like

because here's the thing when you're

suppressing speech you're actually doing

something you're not eliminating the

speech

the act of suppressing it is changing

the nature of the speech

right

and

you have to account for that act of

suppressing it

which means right people are going to

see that people's the way people are

talking is no longer their authentic

spontaneous human behavior

but is based on like uh

you know

it's based on fear and it's based on

just this

formal following of rules

and it just makes it impossible for

people to actually talk about what they

really think

yeah and maybe it's just something that

like changes naturally like you know

over the course of time because you know

obviously

i'm sure you would agree that the use of

the n-word is unacceptable and so you

know like that like that [ __ ] like if

someone came out and said that like

that's you know pretty egregious right

like that's not like

you know an acceptable

use of language right like

um yeah but here's the thing is that if

you say that word you're going to have

real world consequences

right and like

it's not like you know

there's no there's no like rules

about language that exist

like fundamentally you're saying like

there's no there i mean there's of

course there's not materially speaking

there's no rules like it's like

this idea of talking about what is and

and what is not okay to say

is entirely based on how people are

going it's entirely based on what you

mean to say

and

therefore how people are going to react

to it based on what you mean right but

with political correctness it's no

longer the meaning of what people are

saying

it's whether or not what they're saying

is considered like

you know

uh kosher or not or halal or not right

it's just like this very binary

way of like uh

and also seems extremely arbitrary most

of the time so as far as like what

people can get cancelled for what you

can and can't say it's like

it seems like just because you give

expression to the truths of reality and

by truths i mean like the visceral

traumatic realities just by giving

expression to that people confuse that

with those realities themselves so if

someone says something racist

they assume that racism is

reducible to that and it's not

and you're just getting it's a it's a

way of treating symptoms and not the

disease you're suppressing all the

symptoms

and the disease is more rampant than

ever

yeah you know like uh white leftists

have really succeeded in eliminating all

the symptoms of white racism from their

vocabulary from their language from

their ideology and from i mean their

explicit ideology or whatever but they

are the most racist [ __ ] people in

our society and and and that's not

accidental the more you try to cleanse

hypocritically disguise how you really

feel the more that feeling

goes unaddressed and just becomes

stronger and stronger and is allowed to

be taken for granted and faster whereas

if there's a ignorant person who is

racist to me let's say as a muslim

but it's a reflection of how they

authentically think

then i can actually have a connection to

their authentic beliefs through their

language i can talk to them i can show

by example maybe i can you know maybe

change their perception but when you

create such a vast disconnect between

what people really feel and what they

say

it becomes impossible to actually uh

develop

people's real

fundamental racism and prejudices at a

fundamental level

so you think that there's some other

symptom of uh

you know some kind of uh struggle that

people have internally that leads to

you know them taking it out on trans

people or is that like because you know

is it

so when you're talking about uh

violence against trans people what are

you referring to specifically you know

i'm not i mean you know violence like uh

i believe like trans women uh like

and you know i know how you feel about

sex workers and stuff like that but i

believe like trans women who are sex

workers are you know much more likely to

be murdered and stuff like that um and i

think i don't know if it's still a thing

but they were

in court you could legally defend

yourself with uh you know saying that

the person was trans and you went insane

or something like that um

but i mean just just there i mean

there's also legislation and stuff like

that that's being pushed just pretty

arbitrarily based on the fact that they

find trans people to be

strange or whatever um that yeah but

let me ask

so from what i know from what everyone i

from a lot of trans people that i know

the majority of trans people

just want to live normal lives and be

left alone right

and live in their peace

but

why is the

why is there why are the people who

claim to represent them

adopting such extreme

uh and just like out their views about

the nature of gender and sexuality which

is really making

their ability to live in peace

like blackmailed by this absolutely

maximalist

completely like ultra radical extremist

ideology according there's nothing real

and all this kind of yeah according to

which gender is not real uh gender is

just an arbitrary uh thing and there are

there are 75 genders that exist

and those kinds of things it's like why

i don't know i mean i don't know what

the standards are now if i i can even

say this but

for example i think most trans people

believe in a gender binary right

right yeah because i mean they're trying

to

um you know express themselves as one or

the other usually but it doesn't mean

when people say there are only two

genders

that has somehow become associated with

anti-transgender sentiment right

yeah but most trans people do believe

there's only two genders

right well yeah probably um i yeah i

don't know if that's you know

statistically true or not but um i think

i mean i think a lot of that and you

know we're both

online people like you know i watch you

and you're streaming online so

um you know we spend a lot of time

online and i think a lot of this stuff

is online like i don't think that that's

like really like a

thing that you know exists like in our

politics and stuff like that um i think

one of them is a small degree but i

think chappelle's stance isn't that he's

bigoted against people or he hates

people i think his stance is basically

that

there is no politically correct lane

there's no copium uh language or

ideology this is a brutal inconsistent

and contradictory reality and dave

chappelle fundamentally does believe and

he said this that the only way to give

expression to this reality is through

comedy right by making fun of ourselves

by brutally talking about like by

brutally exploiting

through comedy these realities

just so that we can

have a sense of truth

right and that's why dave chappelle

resonates with ordinary people so much

because you know when you tell people

dave chappelle i don't think he has an

issue with trans people at all i think

he has an issue with the idea

that we can somehow

we can somehow like uh

make language wholesome and we can

somehow all be at peace with the way in

which we're given representation through

language

for example

and

um you know

i i just don't think that um

i just don't think

it's not bigotry is what you're saying

it's it's like yeah it's not bigotry

it's just like when you tell a black man

and this is from where he's coming from

when you tell a black man that he's got

to submit to this cleansing politically

correct

wholesome language

and all this [ __ ] that

you know where he's coming from and you

know his understanding of his own

people's history and

maybe his own history too

you know

you're really insulting him you're

telling him what

so this whole time it was just a matter

of wholesome language like [ __ ] no

without this unwholesome language

people

who actually struggle in real life would

not be able to make sense of their world

they wouldn't even be able to

speak about their world they wouldn't

even be able to like uh

acknowledge the truths of this world

that you learn right and the truth is is

that

look there's a lot of talk about

oppression and struggle right but the

hard truth is people who are really

struggling in this world

have absolutely no

they don't have a politically correct

bone in their body people who really are

struggling in this world

will never try to make language the

issue

right you know

and um

okay so like so then like i understand

that i totally understand that but

um like i don't think without the

i guess stoking of the fire of this like

especially uh you know republicans are

very good at kind of uh

using these kind of issues to you know

turn voters out and stuff like that

like i don't think i don't i could be

wrong but i don't think that these

people who may hold these beliefs

care enough to like really like

vote based on this or like you know

consume based on that you know like a

lot of the fear-mongering comes from the

fact that people are scared to

acknowledge and this is the truth that

sometimes conservatives are just right

and there's nothing wrong with that

sometimes they're actually correct you

know like for example this is my

personal view i i don't think that

children should have to question their

gender and and and you know have to

choose what gender they are when they're

children i don't think that's i

fundamentally disagree with that right

but some authentically do some some

children like you know i don't believe

that's possible i don't believe a child

knows any enough about

their gender and their sexuality to do

that and furthermore i come from a

cultural background where that is just

unthinkable that is absolutely so

unthinkable like the culture that i come

from we if that was forced on us right

and that's what they were teaching in

schools we would be going back to

lebanon i promise you that is that

crosses the line

beyond the threshold of

just that is just in like a child

being told to question their gender or

a ch entertaining a child's you know um

views on their own gender that's just

not conceivable now as an adult

it's different right and as an adult

in conservative families there could be

trouble as an adult but

it could probably be resolved eventually

but

you know

i think people ignore the fact that cons

like people have this idea that if we

give any

credit to conservatives then

all of leftism is just you know like

people get this tribalistic mentality

they just start to agree with anything

left to say regardless of truth nobody

cares about truth anymore they just care

about

you know like [ __ ]

what this means in in the like people

call me a fascist people call me o haas

is a fascist and a right winger and all

this [ __ ] not that i care but it's like

i don't know what they're trying to say

because i was never part of their tribe

in your tribe in the first place like i

you know i'm i'm someone who speaks my

mind i say what i believe is true

and if you have to classify me and

categorize me in some way that's not

really my problem

but i you know

it's just interesting that there's a

classification for for people who just

fit outside of the politically correct

bubble and everyone who's outside of

that bubble is just the fascist and

that's just

you know that's just interesting how

it just seems like

you can't that's there's no way of

proving that oh everyone who's not in my

bubble is a fascist

it's okay then if that's all fascism

means then 99 of this globe is

fashionably fascist yeah like

yeah um

yeah the i the thing you said about how

you know where you come from you know a

child questioning their uh their gender

or whatever

would be completely you know out of

bounds

but like i mean for you know i don't

want to you know speak for you or

anything like that but like you know

a lot of cultures would probably you

know have much different uh

views regarding like you know women's

rights too you know so we don't but we

don't say like oh you know uh we

shouldn't teach like you know women have

equal rights men in school and stuff

like that like

you know like but in other cultures that

would be completely

if you have a conservative family that

has different values

then i don't think a society for example

if you have a muslim family that has

different values

and they say you have to be abstinent

before marriage i don't think the

society has a right to come

and say no you know the sex is safe and

you can do it whenever you want just

here have a condom look that's just

that's that's uh you know you could say

that's a form of um

that's a form of chauvinism against some

cultures right

you know

it's uh

you're talking about women's rights

but this is what i always say is that

the issue of women's rights is of no

concern to westerners at all when it

comes to islamic or muslim culture that

is something entirely internal to what

muslim women themselves

are where they're coming from right

and some muslim women

completely agree with the west and are

100 percent westernized but they're a

very small minority the majority of

muslim women in this world

who are fighting for women's rights

do not want to abandon

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the let's say traditional gender roles

of islamic civilization at their most

fundamental level according to which

you know there is a difference between

men and women um

just in the sense of like they're not

the same thing and that

sex is not just some like

you know like they don't they don't want

to create a culture of like [ __ ]

you know

complete sexual openness let's just say

we're like you know everyone's

completely casual and there's no

boundaries or restrictions

that's just not

where the majority of muslim women are

coming from and they do have their own

thing that they have going on but that's

that's not something you have to that

doesn't something you have to address

from the outside is what i'm trying to

say

they have their own you know

uh issues with muslim men and and with

gender

issues and the role of women they yeah

they got their own thing going on but

you don't you don't have to

deal with that from the outside

okay

so i mean so do not think that the

i guess

i mean you know maybe the state or maybe

just the popular culture like

like i mean i don't know if you think

that

most i don't know i think that most

people don't you know have any problem

with trans people in america yeah i

don't think they do either

so i think people get scared when people

say oh yeah we you know we want to

expose your kids to start doubting what

gender they are and and introduce that

kind of confusion i think that terrifies

the [ __ ] out of people right

and i don't think that makes them

transphobic

i don't know but

yeah but i i will say i think a lot of

that

uh

and you know i i know i'm not in school

i'm not in elementary school

specifically specifically one of the

things i think doesn't resonate with the

majority of people is the idea that

gender is a choice

i think i think a lot of trans people

don't agree that it's a choice a lot of

trans people don't say you know oh i

just chose to become transgender right

right they didn't choose that yeah i was

born this way this is me who i at my

most fundamental this is exactly

you know this is actually objectively me

and my most real

right

so

this idea that it's just a choice

i think is just insulting to so many

people because they realize it's not a

choice right like it's about who you are

and

um the idea that you can abstract

yourself from that and just like choose

like a consumer doesn't resonate with

most human beings

yeah i'm not i don't really i'm not

familiar with the

you know what you're talking about i

didn't know that that's like a talking

point personally but um

like i think that's maybe like kind of

like a bastardization of uh

what you know what people you know or uh

the consensus around like what is like

transgender and something like that

because like you know a lot of

conservatives would be like oh so what i

would just wake up one day and now i'm a

woman like what is like that doesn't

make any sense blah blah blah right like

i don't know if that's like really

authentically what people are you know

how active like the transgender

advocates and listen a lot of this stuff

is top down and it comes from

universities and in the universities

that is what is being taught it's being

taught that you know especially if you

look at fingers like judith butler and

this idea of performance

gender performing performance whatever

the [ __ ] performanity critical yeah they

kind of just coming from this

perspective like oh yeah gender is a

complete arbitrary con

construct and

there's no they they make this the scene

of gender essentialism versus

gender subjectivism or whatever

where you can just choose whatever

gender you feel comfortable with and you

can just make everything fluid and you

should overthrow all binaries and binary

uh genders and whatever

i just

think that

then then people get out of the

universities and they try to force this

on normal people and it doesn't work

right and then they

they're taught to call those people

reactionaries and fascists where they

never questioned whether they were

coming from a place of reality to begin

with

yeah yeah i i i you know

i'm not sure like how much of that is

like you know actually trickling down

outside of like the internet um

but

like

so like just to kind of bring this back

to dave chapelle like i don't understand

like i understand that maybe there's

some kind of

you know

uh sentiment that he's expressing

authentically and stuff like that but

like you know a lot a lot of things that

people you know maybe you have an issue

with in in life like do you have to

you know express that and i mean

especially to you know millions of

people on netflix or whatever like do

you have to uh

you know take out your uh

uh or verbalize your like grievances

with with the world like like you know

and you know especially with other

people like yeah i i i do because i

think the reason dave chappelle is dub

because this happened to him first i

don't actually know exactly what started

it

i think he just told a joke and he they

tried to cancel him for it and at that

point they declared war and the reason

he doubled down

was because

it wasn't only about the thing he was

talking about anymore it was also about

taking a stance on this phenomena

of trying to um

filter language

and trying to make language somehow

wholesome which is this antithetical not

only to

comedy but to what dave chappelle thinks

is truth

but he is genuinely trying to give

expression

to what he considers the truth

and

like for example i'll give you my

example right

like

i have a lot of people i used to have

people i had people before coming they

tried to debate me when it comes to

misogyny right they were like oh haas

what do you think about women and i

prefer to say i hate women [ __ ] them

whatever i'm a misogynist

as being sarcastic right

but it would really

pain me it would pain me and be

unthinkable for me to be like oh women

oh i really like women um i believe in

women's equality like that just seems so

fake and inauthentic to me i could never

say that and the reason i could never

say that is because

if i truly

you know had positive views about women

that has to be unspoken to me just to

say that is constructing a fake world an

inauthentic world

that actually doesn't give expression to

the actual contradictions

um

of reality what am i going to say what

am i going to virtue say i think that's

the issue i don't want a virtue signal

to these people and tell them that you

know i'm i'm i'm safe for you i'm

wholesome for you i'm part of your

ideological universe i'm part of your

you know your discourse i'm part of your

language i'm part of your tribe it's

okay you can watch me no i don't i don't

believe that i

because here's the issue when people

have these purity testing things we're

like oh okay haze is safe he said he

actually really likes women and he's

equality whatever

guess what that's how people sneak [ __ ]

in that's how people get away with being

sex pests and abusers and scumbags and

pieces of [ __ ] because all they have to

do is be formally politically correct

and then when it comes to who they are

authentically all the scumbags of the

snakes get to [ __ ] sneak in and get

away with whatever the [ __ ] they want

right

so

like a dude who's going around

calling himself a feminist is basically

telling people and women okay don't

worry i'm one of the safe ones but the

truth is there's no such thing as a man

who's not one of the safe ones we're men

all men are [ __ ] uh in a way

dangerous all men yeah all men in a way

are [ __ ] strangers and just other men

and

women

have to trust men based on their

personal character at knowing them

personally you know what i mean so and

that's not just the case with women it's

true for race it's probably true for

sexual minorities it's true for anything

you're not you can't make someone safe

just because they're [ __ ] being

polite that's really dangerous that's

how children are starting to being

victimized on the internet because all

these wholesome minecraft people and

fortnites you know

youtubers or whatever oh they're so safe

and wholesome but then behind the scenes

they're abusing children because you

just gave that person a pass

you just gave them an ability to be like

a good person just by reciting some

formalistic [ __ ] you know

yeah that's a good point i mean i guess

though in the contrary so

if

someone who's you know uh

speaking against certain things right

like don't you think that that is giving

uh some legitimacy or like

i don't know i just think that you know

some

speech that does genuinely have negative

impacts and like i don't think that that

should be celebrated or like like you

know i'm not saying cancel the guy or

you know take his job you know all this

kind of stuff but i don't think a lot of

people have a problem with what you're

saying like that that is also something

reality what do you think he said that

would have a negative impact

um

i don't know i think he like you know

misgendered and and uh

you know he he kind of made a mockery of

of trans people you know you know i'm

not saying he did it you know bigotedly

or whatever but a lot of people who are

bigoted against trans people heard that

and you know loved it you know they and

they they felt you know they felt uh

um reinforced they felt uh

you know like legitimizing their beliefs

that like this yeah

but

what if dave chappelle fundamentally

believes that everyone is worthy of

mockery as a comedian that we're all

worthy of mockery because we live in an

absurd world and attempting to take

ourselves seriously to such an extent

that we can't be made fun of he just

doesn't believe

that that's legitimate

yeah i guess that would be fair but i i

i'm sure he would draw a line like you

know like that's the thing like you know

it's easy to kind of say that oh i you

know i make controversy

but it's all based on the internal logic

of comedy if he's crossing a line it's

no longer funny

well i mean it seems like and you know

maybe

you know i understand i understand what

your position completely i you know you

explain it very well um but like

you know don't you think that like there

is some

uh legitimacy too to the people that

have a problem with it like i mean i

know that you don't think it was across

the line or anything like that but it

seems like a lot of people did you know

probably millions of people i would say

you know like i'm sure a lot of people

like it

those people are trying to like uh

create an artificial and like

alternative reality that's divorced

from

the majority of people and i don't see

why they're fake reality majority though

that's so i i don't know like

so because they're in let's just say

they're in the minority people and

they're trying to force us on the

majority like uh

like is that

still like so they should just shut up

like

what well i mean i i don't

look i don't know why we have an

obligation to um

to care about what they say is what i'm

trying to say when it comes to like why

should dave chappelle have to worry

about or you know

i think he does and i don't think he i

don't think he cares at all you know he

said today like he's like i said what i

said or whatever right um

and you know he could feel that way or

whatever but if uh you know people are

don't want to watch his specials anymore

or whatever i mean he probably earned a

lot of fans you know um

but uh he probably lost him too you know

so like

i guess it's really just like the kind

of like the court of public opinion at

the end of the day um

but

you know i i think like

you're saying like you know he's he's

being authentic himself but i think

would you would you not say that

to them to the people who have i think

listen here's what i think

i think the people who are upset with

dave chappelle belong to a group of

people heavily urbanized

um isolated from the majority of

americans who have made a pact and

they've made basically this pact yes all

the things dave chappelle says they

acknowledge is true they recognize the

truth right that's when they say oh dave

chappelle you're not funny that should

anyone can be bigoted because they

fundamentally

agree with him deep down right but

they've made a pact which is to say i'm

going to pretend that we live in a good

world and i'm going to pretend that we

have a good discourse in a good language

and

lie to my we're going to lie to

ourselves and the ability to lie to

ourselves is the price of initiation

into this politically correct culture by

proving you can lie about reality in the

name of morality and virtue

and you know

uh

in the name of um

what they their twisted version of

goodness

you're proving to them that you're one

of them and and if you actually just

tell the truth just simply tell the

truth

it's not that they don't know that

you're correct and you're telling them

to they do but you're basically telling

them hey your institutionalized culture

your way of discursively filtering

reality on the basis of the way your

institutions filter reality your

urbanized estrangement from the majority

of people the whole foundation and basis

upon which you rest yeah that's [ __ ]

and meaningless and that means nothing

and i don't care about it right by dave

chappelle doing that he's basically

committing an attack

it's a form of class warfare in a sense

right because if we're talking about a

class

whose literal material basis rests upon

the institutionalized form

by which

they distinguish themselves from reality

and fill and create a special insular

form of language and culture

that's on the basis of um

the institutionalization of social life

and cultural life

then for dave chappelle to defy these

norms and defy these codes these

unwritten or sorry explicitly written

codes he's committing a form of class

warfare against them he's basically

waging war against the professional

managerial class

yeah no i i definitely agree with that

like i said the netflix strike uh

definitely was you know

pmc uh led and uh

um definitely kind of resembled more of

their uh ideology

um

yeah but you know

i guess i you know you're saying that

dave chappelle was being authentic and

he you know a lot of people like for

example i think we hold those beliefs

yeah most people know that dave

chappelle he doesn't know all this dumb

[ __ ] about like

all this politically correct cultural

he's just speaking out of what his

limited but just the fact that he was

speaking authentically without any

regard for politically correct language

or culture or giving them attacks giving

them their discursive tax they were so

outraged by the fact that this dude

like i'll give you an example of this

when a conservative comedian

a republican comedian right

goes into the camera and he tells jokes

he is specifically addressing the

politically correct people and he's

saying hey [ __ ] you right so they

overlook it because they're like okay we

know where he stands right he's against

us

um

here's our fortress and those are the

bad guys so we they get that but dave

chappelle's issue is that he literally

just didn't even care about them he

didn't even acknowledge them he was

giving express he was

the the the egregious crime of dave

chappelle and this is the truth is that

he's giving expression to the fact that

there is a more or less

ideologically neutral reality

politically neutral reality even in a

sense there's a some authentic truthful

reality

that you can give expression to without

taking

without signaling to even either side

right and and that terrifies these

gatekeepers who want to have attacks

they want to tax everyone who tries to

talk about reality in some kind of way

yeah so and then okay so then how is

this different from like stephen crowder

like is it just like because because

steven crowder

can't get over the politically correct

people he he tries to go out of his way

to um

you know he's stephen crowder still

stephen crowder just still assumes that

the only choice is between the

politically correct and just the exact

opposite of them right which is going

out of your way to be edgy

but there is a third

alternative

which is basically uh

giving expression to authentic truth

without regard for what anyone thinks

okay kelly jeans and show cue why

um yeah feel free to let me go at any

time and i you know

talk to you later

all right peace out