Haz Has a Convo With "Teenage Femboy" Twitter Hater | #PrayForTheHaters
2021-08-29
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hello
there's no mic
yeah it's plugged in
hello
um okay so what's your twitter name
yeah what's your twitter name
hello
yeah what's your twitter name
that's your uh twitter name
okay so what do you want to take me down
about
how am i being ableist
because i want
because i want to accommodate people if
they have mental disabilities
can you demonstrate that i'm talking
down
yeah
sure
what does it say
police and i just wanted to say
that
like
that's just
a weird thing to say and
that
mental disabilities have absolutely like
no
application on what information somebody
takes in and what they think
uh well yeah that's where you're wrong
so the thing is is that sometimes i get
really heated when i see like a lot of
unhinged
completely bizarre hate comments against
me
and
all i said is that i'm gonna learn to be
more patient if you want to read the
full tweet i can read it right now i can
pull it up actually the tweet actually
says
was that
i'm learning to be more patient with
haters a lot of the time they have
disabilities that aren't immediately
clear in written text we should all
strive to be more patient with people on
the internet you really never know so
sometimes people have
a disabilities that make communication
and a lot of things
very hard for people like me who are uh
what is it called
uh
differently uh mainstream able to
understand so i said i we should all
strive to be more patient because
sometimes yeah neurotypical for people
who are neurotypical typical like me
there's often a barrier that makes it
hard to understand where people who have
these disabilities are coming from so i
said we should all strive to be more
patient
hello
yeah sorry okay
um
that's
kind of
a weird place to go
because
um
if i pull this up hold on um
oh yeah
um
this this twitter user earlier today i i
saw this was this was this was actually
originally what i was annoyed about like
yeah so
is this person your friend
what is this person your friend
uh i don't i don't think so we've
interacted a couple of times but not
really anyway so anyway i i just want to
be clear are you aware of their
harassment allegations and allegations
of being a creep that have been leveled
against them
i don't really care because that doesn't
really apply in this situation i don't
think that's really just not i mean if
you want to hold me accountable to
nothing i think you know it only why are
you replying to somebody saying these
things saying i think you have autism
yeah ism what do you think no no you're
taking it you're taking does it matter
what you're taking it out of context
what i actually said what context makes
that okay
nothing because i wasn't insulting
that makes any conversation i'll give
i'll give you okay
well you can you can decide that
you can decide that after i give the
context so when i give the context you
could decide whether no context would
apply or not
so let me actually read you what this
person was saying about me first
and this is what
uh inspired me to ask them if they have
autism or a disability uh on the
spectrum something like that not in an
insulting way but because
here it is
um let me pull up the original reason
so
let's
pull it up
okay should be around here
all right
okay
um
okay there we go so this is what
happened
he said the real problem with it is that
so he was talking about how i was acting
yesterday on stream right he said the
real problem with it is that it's larp
that has takes serious to the point
where he legitimately believes it's a
depiction of the future bring to the
image and then i said because i was
angry right and i said all you have is
lies you couldn't offer any commentary
without them i very clearly stated it's
an aesthetic i didn't actually literally
believe it's the literal future
and then this is what
inspired me to ask him he goes
then why did you call it sirius
and that it was the stalingrad of our
time and you did this on stream
i mean yeah you do get a little worked
up over stuff
to be honest
i'm not interested in in your opinion
i'm finishing what i'm saying
i said okay wait a second maybe this is
a miscommunication and then i'm going
too hard on this person and they might
have an inability an inherent inability
to perceive hyperbole because most
people could tell that when i say it's
the stalingrad of our time i'm being
hyperbolic and
you know it's not really that serious
and i'm joking and
it's very clear to most of my audience
that this is not that
serious it's just it's i'm a streamer
it's a stream it's entertainment and
it's twitter right it's it's really not
like i'm
i'm sitting here streaming in front of a
camera it's really not that serious so i
said this is quote unquote are you
autistic by chance not kidding it might
be the issue i understand autistic
because i've had this problem before and
people have told me
that this is an issue autistic people
have and i'm trying to be more patient
with that
i said i understand autistic people have
a hard time understanding hyperbole
and that's that's what i said
that was it
interesting
the problem is that like that that kind
of reads like deflection first of all
and because that that really doesn't
they're asking about like why uh why
right you know why you're doing that and
like i feel like
you should well i mean most people just
said that you're joking instead of
randomly making assumptions about like
their like whether they're neurotypical
or not like that's a little bit weird
and also it's a little bit rude to just
like
uh it's a little bit rude to just like
ask somebody in an interaction like wait
wait you wait first of all i was being
extremely generous by doing this because
this person has done nothing
but insult me smear me uh you levy slurs
against me be rude against me call me
the r word and all that kind of [Β __Β ]
you know for for weeks now for days and
weeks now and they did it yesterday so
why should i have to say that it was
just a joke when it was self-evident to
most people
that it was not actually serious like
strictly literally serious that i
thought it was the stalingrad of our
time
um
i mean you didn't really give away why
why was like why were they okay then why
were they justified in making that
assumption why would a person who
doesn't have that disability that
inherent disability be justified in
making that assumption that's what i
want to know why would they be justified
in making the assumption that it wasn't
hyperbole and that i actually did
believe it was the stalingrad of our
time because i don't see how someone who
is neurotypical could make that
assumption justifiably
okay so like
my dude you were literally like on
straight on on stream like literally
like yelling about how yelling about
this stuff like that it wasn't real you
weren't you weren't giving any tells
whatsoever and believe me like i might
have autism like i also have but i also
have but i also have extreme like
sensitivity to picking up picking up
stuff from people and like
uh
i
you you were given like you know tell us
dude you got to stop
why did wait wait first of all
immediately
right off the bat first of all you have
to understand the context that it's a
twitch stream i'm not going on the
street doing crazy things it's a twitch
stream right so
it's it's not that serious i could be
yelling and going crazy or whatever but
it's just a twitch stream right it's not
really that serious the second thing is
that
whatever sensitivity problem you have
you don't actually have to watch my
stream
i'm not forced i didn't force him to
watch my stream and continually harass
me for weeks and days spreading lies
smearing and slandering me uh constantly
and you know i don't know why you're
poland listen
it's really funny that you're trying to
engage in cancer culture right now when
this is a person
who is literally affiliated friends with
and is engaging in this circle jerk of
harassment with literal neo-nazis and
self-proclaimed fascists
okay but like i'm not saying that that
is but that's that's how this person
started to um slander me and insult me
because i was debating those people and
he was looking out for his friends
and that's the circle he's coming from
he's literally coming from a circle full
of neo-nazis holocaust deniers
and actual fascists so i i just wonder
is is that where you're coming from too
or just so we're clear
okay i don't really i don't i don't know
are you coming from because you're
trying to cancel me right so
it's only fair that no one said anything
about listen if you're gonna accuse me
of ableism i don't know why you're
siding with fascists who believed that
uh differently abled people were
subhuman and didn't even deserve the
right to live
i'm not saying i'm not saying that i
agree with them on anything i think you
do agree with them because you're
literally came on to cancel me i just
think that the way somebody was being
very weird and i would like to i was
being very polite and patient with that
person to work with them with whatever
disability they had so that we could
come to a clear understanding and i was
being i was not they are from a circle
of views i was not mocking them i was
not insulting them i was not making fun
of them for any perceived disability i
was literally just trying to point out
that if they do have this disability
that i won't come as hard as i would
have otherwise at them because i
understand why they could
um
post the things they do if they had it i
could understand why you do it that you
there's you have an inherent disability
that this allows you to perceive
hyperbole and you know light-heartedness
and context-dependent
um displays of emotion i understand that
okay but
the idea that i was being ableist
is really rich coming from a person who
comes from a circle of people who think
that differently abled people belong in
camps and don't even deserve to live
these people all i know is that i have
autism and i think that like
if i'm gonna go there they were being
weird too
i just also want to extend that like we
have if we're gonna get anywhere we have
to be able to acknowledge the stuff on
every side as it is
i personally think autistic people are
dignified human beings that deserve
equal treatment and respect but the same
cannot be said for the people you're
associating with and defending
i'm not associating with them i just
think that
even look even if you're arguing with
somebody who's like a bad person you
still gotta
like not well again i wasn't insulting
them i wasn't degrading them for for
having that disability i was just trying
to acknowledge it so that i wouldn't
you know leverage my neurotypical
position against them and basically
bully and abuse them because
listen if i wasn't acknowledging that
fact it would amount to a form of
bullying because i'm a neurotypical
person who's using my neurotypical
position
against them because they are
differently abled and
it's like i have an ability they don't
have and i'm using that against them and
i don't want to do that
hmm
okay i get where you're i i okay so i
get where you're coming from with that
and like and look i think that i think
that that's a good thing that like
you're trying to like
uh look at look out look out look out
for autistic people like yeah like i
guess like that's that's that's cool but
like
uh
i might my dude i'll even like say this
like from like a from like like a uh
just like just like a more like just
like a nicer standpoint really
that
uh
first off uh if they're from so if if if
you're interacting with somebody from
who's like from a circle of neo-nazis
i don't really think that being
charitable to them is should should be
on your list at all
uh i don't think that's really anything
that you should be worrying about and uh
second off uh it's a little bit um
autism is weird because like you can't
really assume
that
uh it's going to inherently disable you
one way or another uh it is it's a very
like diverse uh ability and like many
neurotypical people also lack uh
questions in that question so it just
weirdly seems like bringing autism into
things for like no reason
and well i i was told that autistic
people do have a disability that this
allows them to
perceive um sarcasm and hyperbole in
ways that
neurotypical people are able to perceive
okay i get that um
and like again again like thank you i
guess for like if you're looking if
you're like looking out for that but
like
uh that really came across like the
wrong way for like a lot of people to i
know too uh and
uh
yeah
uh there might be
a better
if you're if you if you suspect that
like
is that that somebody might not be able
to engage with you um um
fully maybe that's here's the thing
maybe you should just either simplify
things for them
or
just block them and like i don't know
like yeah the issue is that
they have been spreading a lot of false
narratives about me consistently almost
every day very persistently
reaching a pretty you know it's not just
like it's them alone it's like dozens
and dozens of people are buying up what
this person is saying about me
and i wanted to be able to communicate
with them to get to the bottom of what
their issue was
and while at the same time acknowledging
if they had some kind of um
disability or some kind of condition
that
would justify what they were somewhat
justify what they were doing that's
really what i wanted to get to the
bottom up i wanted to know why they were
saying all of these things because i
genuinely didn't understand it and i was
trying to
understand it
because it is having a lot of
malicious
uh results of
all these rumors being spread about
things that are just patently not true
like for example
i debated
a far-right um syrian guy
and this person i don't know if you know
this
um insisted on using the f slur the
homophobic f slur
which is also banned on twitch it's
against twitch's terms of service so i
ended the debate
and i immediately deleted the video
um
and this person went around twitter
telling everyone that i deleted the
video because i was scared to reveal to
everyone that i lost the debate
and people were believing this
i mean that's one thing one thing you
got to realize if you're trying if
you're trying especially if you're
trying to get clouded is that
like i'm not trying all the time it's
not that i'm just trying to get clouded
i'm just defending my honor i'm just
defending the thing is that if you're
going to be clouded uh
you've got to realize like people are
going to do this stuff and you can't
spend all your time engaging with it or
you're going to become a deranged
psychopath
i've seen it happen to many other people
to an extent i really do agree with you
i agree with you to an extent it's just
it was bothering me a lot and
you know
i don't know i just yeah maybe you're
maybe honestly maybe you're right and i
just
shouldn't be engaging with these haters
in the first place
yeah
and i ultimately do think there's wisdom
in that and that's ultimately correct
it'll give them more ammunition against
you and it'll and it'll just decrease
your mental state so yeah
yeah i mean
you're somewhat right i mean like i
wasted
hours
like three hours just arguing on twitter
it's really pointless
um
i guess that's the reason is that
i'm still in a position where i just
feel like i have to prove myself
just because i've never been in public
before before streaming i just wasn't a
public figure or a public person
and
when people say things like i'm a guy
who is completely wrong about everything
they say and i don't know what i'm
talking about and i'm always you know
losing debates with these people that
they consider their their friends
it's like
i want to really know if there's meat
and potatoes
a substantive like if there's a
substance behind that claim
um
so that i could address it and i could
actually confront it head on but i guess
sometimes he will just hate you know for
no reason
or just start looking for attention
okay so i kind of understand more where
you're coming from with this uh
just just with this whole
uh issue but like
i'm just really gonna have to like ask
like
just uh
uh
it it really comes across weird when
you're like in the middle of a back and
forth with someone and you say
uh do you have autism like that
constantly gets used as like gotchas by
people and
uh
no i i i get that it's just that
you know
i just want
to be cl i just i don't know i i i guess
i'm just
would be really surprised if people
thought
or took seriously the allegation that
like i actually
literally believed like everything i
said yesterday and like i actually
believed it was stalingrad and that kind
of stuff
and i just don't know you know i i don't
know i guess i'm worrying too much about
what other people think
but
yeah
i guess i was just too fixated on like
trying to know why someone would believe
that
that makes sense
okay
that's i mean that's fair but again too
if you if you know somebody's coming in
in bad faith it's really not worth
going there anyway
yeah
no i i could see that
and i i get that now you know
um
uh
okay i'm sorry look i'm sorry that like
i i'm sorry i'm i'm sorry to i'm sorry
today to say this but like i
i
i really have to
i really have to go now because like
it's really getting late where i am yeah
that's fine
uh but i i appreciate you taking the
time to like address the things i had to
say like yep okay all right bye
okay go outside [Β __Β ]
i mean whatever they did say they had a
thing so
i don't know what that is but
is what it is