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Come.

As you can see, I am wearing a suit.

That will be for the foreseeable future.

For the future of every stream in the future, that's what's gonna be the norm.

Um, yeah, the days of uh scruffy haws are over.

What's going on, Lodi?

How are you?

How's it going?

I did just have dinner, guys, but I'm still hungry and we're gonna be eating some right wingers for dessert tonight.

Eating them alive, literally.

um as in cannibalism.

Uh taking them, butchering them, cooking them, and then feasting upon their flesh.

Of course, I mean this unfortunately, I mean this metaphorically.

Although they deserve worse,

I think so.

And jokes aside, I think uh there's actually it's not without justification the sentiment I'm talking about.

Wallo, what's going on?

I think it's not without justification.

I mentioned in the previous stream that the Western right wing is just not very relevant anymore, concretely speaking.

They fumbled the bag, so to speak, in twenty sixteen, even on their own by their own metrics.

They are pathetic.

They are a whimpering

Wet fart on its way out.

Um, sad, pathetic, dying, decaying, lacking vigor, lacking vitality, lacking the so-called meme magic that they uh so preciously covet now and they're coping memes about how we're so back, we're so back, you're not back, you're not back, it never even began for you.

Your little adventure, the little fun that you had in 2016, it will never come back.

At least for your generation.

You are just like Patrick Casey.

Defeated.

Wandering

waiting for it to be back.

It'll never be back.

You sad, pathetic maggots

Anyway, there's no need for things to get personal.

It's never personal.

It's just history.

The right wing is dead.

And they will never be relevant again.

Meanwhile, we have basically overtaken them

in all but raw clout.

In terms of the presence we've exerted upon Western consciousness, we are the cutting edge, we are the latest and greatest.

They are the past and we are the future.

They have no equivalent to George Galloway.

They're all betting that a Trump victory this year is somehow going to restore vigor to their failed ideology, their failed zeitgeist.

It won't.

That much is certain, it won't.

Already former liberals are lining up to co-opt Trump's legacy entirely.

People are simply sick of Biden.

Trump isn't really a right-wing thing anymore.

It's not really a province of the so-called alt-right.

Trump has become an ambiguously populist figure in the United States, which definitely cuts across party lines now.

Gala Drinker, what's going on?

Cuts across racial lines.

It's not really a right-wing thing anymore.

And if it and the worst case scenario, Trump will be elected president and completely fall in line doing the bidding of the imperialist hegemony, of the Zionist lobby, and so on and so forth.

The right wing doesn't benefit from that, at least uh in terms of its overt ideological commitments, which we all know the right wing has always had a tenuous relationship to anyway.

Are you following me or am I speaking too professionally and too um elegantly and nicely for your retarded little brains to understand?

Ones if you're fucking following me here and you're completely on the same page.

With what I'm saying.

Great.

Do I need to swear more?

I'm trying to stop swearing as much as I used to.

I'm trying to clean up my act just a little bit.

I know I come off as fake, but guess what?

There's no way to be real without sharing the fate of Tupac Shakur and Malcolm X and just getting shot down off the damn stage.

Excuse my French.

Everyone, it's a great Sunday night to talk about Haiti, but before we do it, we're going to need to discuss this business of the right wing and their renewed significance.

If you can believe it, they do have a renewed significance.

So, we've already established, everyone can see it, the right wing is dead.

They're no longer the zeitgeist.

We've overtaken them.

We've slam-dunked over them, so to speak.

Now they're on the floor, writhing, seething and coping at our eyes.

Well, it would be enough to beat a dead horse.

But the right wing is actually finding ways to resurrect itself, to resuscitate, if I'm pronouncing that correctly, its existence, to save any, to grasp at any relevance that it can.

What is it doing?

Well, it's doing what the right wing what you would expect it to do.

So dishonorably violating its own self.

self-proclaimed principles by just whoring and prostituting itself out to the same globo homo hegemony, it basically

Established itself on the basis of opposing the so-called Jewish globo-homo hegemony the right wing is readily prostituting itself in the service of.

The only renewed significance of the right wing in 2024 is running apologetics for imperialism.

It's acquiring newfound vigor and relevance and life and vitality in just justifying the existing hegemony that it claimed to oppose in the past, but obviously.

uh through an ideologically right wing lens.

NATO is white.

Therefore, NATO is good.

The United States imperialists are mainly white, although

I could have sworn they were Jewish yesterday, but I guess Jews are white now.

I'm not sure what's going on.

But the US hegemony is white and Haitians are black.

Therefore, US imperialism is good and US's interventions in Haiti are good because Haitians are black and black people are bad.

If you can believe it, this is the cutting edge of right-wing ideology right now.

Renting out their booty hole, so to speak, to the Jeffrey S.

Epstein pederass.

It would be probably more to their favor if they weren't hairy, disgusting 40-year-old quartering neckbeards.

But they'll make do with what they can, of course, and the Epsteins, the homosexuals that govern us and rule us, are happy to just take what they can as well.

And this is the arrangement that it's come to.

The right wing is completely offering itself to the global homo hegemony.

all in the name of racial resentments that they harbor toward black people.

I find it interesting.

It's oftentimes that they call us anti-white.

They say that we're against white people because we oppose Western imperialism and hegemony.

Well, we're not anti-white.

Uh if you call us anti-white, we're MAGA Communists, it doesn't make any sense.

It's self-evidently absurd.

What's really going on is they're just anti-black.

They just hate black people.

I mean, how else do you put it?

They just hate black people.

They just hate black people.

What else is there to say?

We're not anti-white.

You right wingers are anti-black.

And it would be so nice if you could just admit that.

For some reason you can't.

And even when you do admit it, you do it behind an anime profile picture.

And before you claim that it's because you're scared of getting fired or you're scared of the repercussions in real life, Patrick Casey is known as a white nationalist.

He's known as a neo-Nazi.

I could not get him to admit it.

Over the course of what, two hours debating him, he wouldn't admit it because, why?

Because he's a coward.

Because you're cowards.

Because you can't say it with your chest.

Because you know it's shameful.

It's uncivilized and it's wrong.

Even you can't say it because that's how ashamed you are deep down of such a ridiculous, stupid, anti-human position.

Um it's an ideology of, as leftists like to say, deeply unserious people.

You claim that you want to seize power, take power of the United States.

Could you seriously envisage a world in which you could possibly these people, these lumpenized degenerates could possibly coexist with a world that is 90% non-European?

I mean, how could you do diplomacy?

How could you just sit at a table with others?

How could you have a foreign policy?

You couldn't.

You want to go the way of Hitler and declare war on the entire world?

You will go the way of Hitler.

He will share his fate.

And you glorify him today because I guess he's a romantic, quichotic rebel who in vain tried to go to war against the world and failed, but you still admire him anyway because it reminds you of your...

Your own uh I don't know, your own incel resentments against the world, you can't get bitches, whatever.

It's fine.

It's fine.

But you're not serious.

You're not a serious political rival.

You're not a serious political contender.

You're maggots fit only for being crushed under our boots.

Simple as that.

It's simple as that, really.

Well, in the present case, we have something rather interesting going on.

Haiti.

Now the narrative I'm getting from Twitter is actually incredible.

The narrative I'm getting from social media is that Haiti is a country which Europeans just gave them so many nice and free things.

We built them infrastructure, we built and I love the word we, it's my favorite when they use we.

As if this uh internet degenerate

Lumpin low life subhuman trash

can lay claim to the power of the ruling class, these neats sitting in their mother's basement, laying claim to the glorious exploits of the American and Western aristocracies which

which they're nowhere near close to in any in any form whatsoever.

But it's it's um it's endearing at least to a certain extent, I guess, that they uh

That they're LARPing.

in this way?

I mean, think about it.

Literal

social scum in the actual real sense of the word somehow think they have some kind of class solidarity with the imperialist ruling class.

It's pathetic is what it is.

But anyway, the story goes like this, apparently white people, all white people I guess, including people who live in trailer parks, were just kind of giving Haitians everything for free.

I mean, Haiti was just it was just out of their beneficence, their charity, right?

And then Haitians just they just didn't they just because they're black and apparently black people are subhuman, it just they couldn't make anything of it.

And now Haitians are eating each other.

We could never imagine that.

We could never imagine.

A warlord era of total chaos and anarchy in the United States.

It just won't happen here ever.

Wait, five years.

Anyway, um.

Uh yeah, so that's what that's the story they're going with.

I mean, is it true?

No.

Is there a grain of truth to it?

No.

But I guess rhetorically, it sounds like something they would want to be true.

Therefore, they are propagating this cope.

What else do you call it?

What do you call a thing that's just not true?

But you want it to be true, but it's not true.

So what do you call that?

I think we call that cope.

It's not true.

The truth is that Haiti, there has never been a single month that has gone by without the United States fundamentally meddling in and interfering in the sovereign affairs of the Haitian people.

Probably not even a day goes by, actually, to be more accurate.

The timeline as far as recent events goes back a long, long way.

Long, long way.

Ever since the Haitians acquired independence in the based slave revolt, which the white supremacists are still butthurt about to this day for some reason.

I mean, guys, it was like 200 years ago or something, right?

Can't you just get over it?

Can't you just get over the fact that the Haitians rose up and killed all of those slave owners?

I mean, it was 200 years ago.

You seem pretty upset about it.

Actually, the ruling class in the West never got over it.

From the very outset, they made sure that Haiti would be punished, that it would serve as an example to the entire colonized world, the non-Western world, that anyone who does anything similar to this will not.

Will not experience a good outcome.

What's going on, Australia Stanny?

How are you going?

That's exactly what happened.

That's exactly what happened.

Haiti, since that slave revolt, has been punished by the colonial West in one form or another uh to make sure that they could never ever be an example of a prosperous country which

Has its origins

as a successful Spartacus-like slave uprising.

Just like I was talking to my friend Q earlier today and he gave me this apt example.

Just like Spartacus, they had to crucify them as an example to the other slaves the colonized.

But that's just a vague generality.

To be more specific,

The US in particular has basically colonized the entirety of Haiti, turned it into a complete neo-colony for over a hundred years now.

Uh particularly in the first form as a form of kind of neo-colonial or I should rather say imperialist extractivism where they just basically extract and loot all of Haiti's resources while more or less mobilizing its local population to the status of semi-slaves, basically slaves, in order to procure these resources for US companies.

Thank you so much, Stalin Beria Gulag.

What's going on?

That's more or less what happened.

In the the outset, right?

More recently, Haiti has been the subject of degrowth policies and debt slavery.

So, the broad picture we can paint, and I'm not an expert on Haitian history from the 60s to the 90s, but I could say since the neoliberal era, the primary goal of US foreign policy in Haiti has been to devastate their local agricultural economy.

Haiti, for a long time, despite being under the boot of Western imperialism, savagely reduced to an extractivistic colony where they just take resources and leave everyone to fend for themselves and squalor while looting their wealth.

And by the way, the way that they do this is, of course, making sure that there's no sovereign government in Haiti.

That's the thing.

The U.S.

has never allowed for not only a sovereign government to exist in Haiti, but not even a politician to rise through Haiti's already compromised state political system, who minimally kind of has maybe some ideas of social reform.

A little bit, little bit, not too much, not too crazy.

Just a little bit maybe challenging the extremely brutal neoliberal policies.

Ah, you're assassinated too bad.

That's what happened in recent decades in Haiti.

Literally the US assassinated.

Uh Haitian leaders critical of neoliberal orientation.

I mean, this is since the Cold War.

We backed their brutal savage dictator, what's his name Papa Doc?

And why did we do this?

Did we do this because we just we're just trying to like help Haiti?

Because because we're just so liberal and leftist, we just love helping Haiti out of the beneficence of our heart.

Does anyone, by the way, why why right wingers they feign this pretense to being cold realists?

But somehow the cynicism flies out the window when it comes to US imperialism.

No, no, imperialism is just when like liberals are just like like trying to help black people in vain or something, right?

No, the truth is we made sure that Haiti

Had no sovereign government, was completely subordinate to U.S.

interests.

One, to prevent another Cuba from emerging in the Caribbean.

Two, to make sure that we could continue to plunder Haiti's resources.

Finally, three, so we could use Haiti as a source of as an instrument for speculative finance.

So we could use it as a money laundering scheme alongside the other

Islands of the Caribbean, we do the same with.

If you don't know about the significance of the Caribbean for global capitalism, you're probably living under a rock.

I'm sure you prefer as a right-winger, maybe you just prefer to complain about black people on the subway.

But this is how the global system we live in works.

Money is laundered through offshore banks in the Caribbean in order to finance the drug trade, arms trafficking, and to basically enforce the global hegemony by extrajudicial, extra-legal, and extra-sovereign means.

Most of the world's economy is concentrated and funneled through these networks.

Haiti is also part of that puzzle as well.

I could go on and on and on.

Haiti's gold was looted by France, completely taken from them.

To this day, with the

not just backing, but

Because of the will of the United States, Haiti's government has been implementing a process of land enclosure where they're basically stealing land from Haitian peasants to give to international and multinational corporations, either to utilize for purposes of degrowth, devastating Haiti's local agriculture so that it can't compete with the US's monopoly or for purposes of extracting resources.

As in the case of the recent building of a sativa stevia, sorry, not sativa, stevia processing plant for the Coca-Cola Corporation.

In any case, Haiti is a neo-colony.

The idea that we aren't intervening there or meddling in their affairs and that we just left them alone and this is the result of that is a lie.

I don't think right-wingers believe in God.

So I don't think they believe anyone or anything will ever hold them to account as far as their lives are concerned.

But I'd like to put a statement out there.

We are here to stay.

We, communists, yes, with a capital C, call us what you like, MAGA communists.

We're here and we're here to stay.

And we are here to challenge and overthrow the imperialist hegemony.

Just like it is with the liberal left and the so-called Antifa.

You prostitute yourself as a hired thug of imperialism.

We will crush you like a bug.

We will crush you under our feet ruthlessly and we won't spare you or show you any mercy.

That's a promise.

You want to be a black shirt for the Globo Homo?

We will treat you accordingly.

We won't make and repeat the same mistakes of the early European communists who were bewildered and a little bit confused.

about the early fascists.

We know about you, we know about your nature, and we will be ready for you before you leave your cradle.

Uh we're already doing that as far as the InfoWar is concerned, and that's exactly what we're doing now.

We are here to replace you.

You need to understand that you're out, your significance is exhausted.

You failed as dissidents.

We are the dissidents now, the real dissidents.

Things are returning to where they should be.

Why should the right wing be dissidents?

They're not dissidents.

I mean, granted.

Granted, okay.

The right wing has mounted worthwhile, to a limited extent, critiques of the status quo, mainly in the form of culture though, right?

The decline of family values, the decline of

any sense of meaningfulness,

The rampant rise of nihilistic sentiment.

the decline of any kind of familiar or at least minimally human

Art

Uh the decay of spiritual and cultural values.

These are all legitimate criticisms of the status quo.

Of course, the trampling down upon the civil liberties of American citizens.

We've always commended those who have highlighted this.

And for a long time that was coming from the right, from Ron Paul, from Rand Paul.

We, of course, commend this.

Them being right-wingers doesn't stand in the way of us commending that.

We praised Donald Trump's critique of U.S.

foreign interventionism, as well as the so-called free trade policies, NAFTA, and so on and so forth.

We give the devil credit where the credit is due.

But now that these right wingers are showing their true colors and just firmly standing behind the globo homo hegemony, why?

Because they don't like black people.

What is there to say?

The problem is that we're the anti-white ones, no.

The problem is that you're willing to sell out your own principles in the name of petty racial hatred.

It makes you unfit to have any political relevance or significance.

Makes you unfit to be taken seriously.

It makes you fit to be crushed, removed,

Replaced.

Such is what is happening.

Now, the history of US intervention and fucking up

The lives

of the Haitian people is very long, but let's trace the current events to a more recent one, which was the assassination of Haiti's former prime minister in 2021.

An assassination which was planned in Miami and Colombia.

Totally not sus.

Of course, the so-called culprits were tried and found guilty in US courts, by the way, just like Jeffrey Epstein was going to be tried and found guilty in US courts.

Of course, Jeffrey Epstein had nothing at all to do with the US government.

I mean, why would they throw him in jail if he did, right?

They'd never do that.

Well, in any case, since then, we basically appointed Haiti's new prime minister who is so extremely unpopular among the Haitian people, whose status there is an affront to their dignity, affront to their feelings of basic human dignity, and even the veneer of national sovereignty.

Haiti descended into chaos, a complete breakdown, complete breakdown of the legitimacy of the state, even as the veneer of legitimacy.

Totally broke down.

And what happened?

So-called gangs rose to fill the vacuum of civil society spontaneously.

Now, we call them gangs because they're illegal organizations and they are diverse in content, of course.

Many of them are directly on the payroll of foreign forces.

Some of them represent some indigenous organic sociological formation of power and organization in Haitian society.

In any case, it's a shit show.

Some are being employed as mercenaries of foreign interests.

Some are just representative of an organic sociological change in Haitian society.

They've never had their own sovereignty.

They've never had their own government.

And the origins of the state, the origins of government, such as they are, are violent, messy, and chaotic.

And every state in history, every real state at least, has its origin in warlords.

In primordial forms of social organization and power distributed across civil society, which aggregate into a central power only through either a confederation of these various different tribal interests or through a war of conquest in which one group, one tribe, conquers all the others.

This is a basic truism of history.

for all of the right wingers clutching pearls at the horrors of what's going on in Haiti.

Don't pretend you're above any of that because you're already cannibals.

The only thing stopping you from eating black people is the fact that there's armed police and there's a semblance of law and order.

What happens when that breaks down in the United States?

Do any of you think these neo Nazi skinheads are going to behave in a civilized manner?

Do you really think that?

I don't.

Do you think these right wingers who so casually dismiss and mock the death of people they disagree with are going to be these peaceful non no, it's going to be a total shit show, it's going to be worse than Haiti, it's going to be like Liberia was in the nineteen nineties.

That's the fate that awaits the United States, and it's going to be a profound irony.

when these racist scum

Witness, the same thing happened to the United States.

What happened to Haiti and what happened to Africa?

And no, not because of black people and Mexicans.

White people are going to be joining in on the fun as well.

They may even be at the vanguard of it because they are a majority after all.

That's the fate that awaits this country.

Barbarism all around.

Yeah.

You explain these basic facts to right wingers, basic facts about Haiti, basic facts about how we've appointed their government, an extremely unpopular government, how gangs have filled the vacuum of a missing sovereignty.

And what do they say?

They go on these tirades and whoa, all the IQ differences of what why don't you be more specific about the content of what we're we're talking about?

It's it's almost as if you know you go and you steal someone's wallet and then I punch you in the face to give it back to them and then and then your friend comes up to me and starts talking about the generalities of

Differences and and psychological I don't I don't I mean, no, you s took someone's wallet.

That's what happened, okay?

It's a very concrete, specific situation.

There's no need to get into generalities about Oh, the racialists shut the fuck up because you sound like a faggot.

Excuse my French.

But really, I can't help it.

With these people, it's like, are you capable of any kind of like analysis that requires work?

You're not, because you're initially, because it's easy to just talk about racial differences and IQ.

And yeah, that's easy to talk about because you don't have to do research.

You don't have to actually know anything.

You don't actually have to like study what happened.

You don't have to know anything about Haiti.

You just, oh, they have black skin.

So that's it.

Yeah, okay.

That's easy.

Doesn't make it true.

By the way, um.

I know I'm clowning on right wingers.

I know I'm being very savage and very brutal toward them.

being very heavy handed toward them.

But I'm actually doing them a favor.

I'm educating them.

I don't have to do this.

You can continue to meander in your incompetence, your stupidity.

Your black propaganda, no racial pun intended, your lies and telltales.

Your imperialist propaganda

You prostituting yourself as an Info Warrior for the Globo Homo.

That doesn't further your so-called cause.

That doesn't make you an effective person.

It just makes you somebody who's shitcoating the discourse, so to speak.

You're just muddying the waters.

You're not giving rise to some new movement.

You're not producing anything of value.

You're just keeping people ignorant and stupid.

You're keeping people enslaved.

to the status quo, that's what you're doing.

You're keeping people subordinate to whatever it is we have already.

This is your life goal?

Because you're such a loser, because you failed to amount to anything of significance, your main goal in life is to what, now just reinforce people's stupidity and ignorance and lack of education about world affairs?

You're the reason this country is going down the gutter.

You venerate, sanctify and celebrate the gross ignorance of the people living here, of things that are happening on their front door.

What disgusts me so much about the imperialist ideology, the imperialist mentality, is the hypocrisy.

It would be one thing if they clung to their notion of might is right, the superiority of the races.

Fine, cling to that, cling to that, and be consistent about it.

I would be fine with that.

I wouldn't accept it myself, but it wouldn't anger me, wouldn't bother me, because it would inevitably run upon contradictions.

Like, for example, when a people decide they've had enough of being an example of an inferior race, when they decide to take their country back.

Like Thomas Sankara did in Africa, like Ibrahim Traore is doing in the Sahel.

Like Malemo wants to do in South Africa.

But it's been done.

And what happens?

You feign moral outrage.

Moral outrage.

Not you don't say, Oh, we need to protect our might and prove our might is right.

No, you feign moral outrage.

You start crying and complaining about the communists.

The communists.

The evil, brutal and ruthless communists.

I'm on I'm gonna maintain my composure and discipline.

But how could you not be outraged by this hypocrisy?

Might is right on the one hand, but then when they actually decide to prove their own might, suddenly you feign moral outrage.

And like Jordan Peterson, you start crying about Solzhenitsyn in the gulag.

Well, you are the example of why there was gulags.

We do need gulags.

Of course we do.

To put people like you in them.

It would be nice if we could just reason with people.

I'm trying to reason with people.

I've always tried to.

You can't reason with these racists.

You can't reason with...

How can I reason with them?

We're not censoring them.

We invite them to come and debate us and let them go on their spiel about race and IQ and get knocked down in the process.

But they don't do it because they can't be reasoned with.

If you can't be reasoned with, you're going to be dealt with in a different way.

We'll leave that ambiguous, but what choice do you leave us when we assume power, of course?

What choice would you leave Stalin?

Why?

Of course he's going to throw these people in gulags.

What choice do you leave him?

We're trying.

He tried to reason with people like you, counter-revolutionary scum.

He tried.

It's not like he shut the door on reason.

This the these Solzhenitsyn intelligentsia, they try to make it seem like that, but it's not true.

The door was always open for you to make your case.

You couldn't do it.

So what did you start doing?

You started sabotaging railways.

You started spreading lies.

You started destroying crops.

You started destroying infrastructure.

You started wrecking.

That left the Soviet state with no choice.

So we we are under no illusions.

I mean, uh MAGA communism, we're under no illusions.

If we came to power in the United States, you would probably also leave us no choice.

I mean, we're seeing it now.

I mean, look, the right wingers may come and grovel at our feet when we acquire some more political significance, and maybe then they'll try to reason with us, but that ship will have sailed.

That train will have passed.

Your chance to reason with us is now.

If you don't do it now, you can't do it in the future.

Uh let's be clear about that.

Now is your chance to do that.

Not in the future when we're more powerful.

They grovel before power.

They grovel before

They grovel before uh

The work of better men.

Now's your chance to reason with us.

We are willing to reason with anyone.

Be civilized and reason with us.

We can reason with you.

We can explain our position.

We can give you an opportunity to argue on behalf of yours and explain to you patiently why you're wrong.

But now that's you don't do that now.

What you do now is you say, Oh, you're uh we're gonna deport you, Haas.

When Trump gets elected, you're gonna be deported to Nicaragua.

And but what happens when that doesn't happen?

What happens when Haas doesn't get deported?

What happens when Haas stays in this country?

What happens when Haas becomes a little more prominent in this country?

What happens when Haas remembers the things you said about deporting me?

What happens when you are perhaps in a vulnerable position relative to Haas, of course?

We're going to remember that, you know, we're going to remember these things.

It's not very smart to make enemies of us at this stage.

I don't think it is.

I don't think it is.

I don't think it's very smart at all.

Uh it's not going to happen.

I won't be deported.

That's the truth.

I will only rise in significance.

I mean look, I could die like in an hour.

Someone in an hour can come and put a bullet in my head sixty minutes from now.

And I will still outlast whatever significance you think is my limit.

That's how much this is already set and done.

I mean, I I can't guarantee the US is going to be a communist country.

Of course, no one can be certain about that.

I can't even say it's likely.

But what I can be certain of, what I can be certain of, is that the significance of this, this thing we have going on.

We haven't even seen 1% of it.

It is going to play out to its fullest and most logical conclusion.

Um

All that it is made of will develop.

and will be unleashed.

That doesn't bode well for you.

I mean, at that point our enemies are much bigger than you are.

You you will be trampled over like an elephant trampling over some kind of insect.

But maybe we'll come across a mammoth that tramples over us, we don't know.

But you you are no serious opponent, no serious enemy.

Your best bet is to sit down and bow before your new Khan, actually.

Um or be swept aside.

It's up to you.

It's honestly up to you.

But let's let's drop the illusions.

Haas isn't going to be deported.

Uh if anything, I'm going to be a warlord in ten years, and you're going to live under the thumb of my dictatorship.

And I'm going to have you work as a slave in my mines, probably.

That would be a very, very generous fate for you.

I doubt it will be so nice for you, to be honest.

But you will be in like my slave labor camps.

I will be riding a horse and literally I will.

I will have you by chains, probably.

I'm not going to be deported.

I've just gotten started in this country.

I have been planted in this country by history itself from the Middle East, the cradle of civilization.

I've been planted here by history, and I have not even started.

The reason why I'm here has not even come close to exhausting.

Its purpose.

I'm gonna be here for a long time.

Okay, you're gonna have to get used to me and.

It's not going to be very nice.

For you.

Uh but that's just my dream, actually.

I can't guarantee that.

But I think it's more probable than me getting deported.

That's what I mean to say.

Uh no, I'm here to stay.

Sorry.

You can't cope your way out of this.

Uh in any case

Mm.

People talk about cannibalism in Haiti and and so what?

What are you going to do about it?

I mean, Haiti is undergoing a horrific, chaotic situation.

We're not above that.

Either.

It'll happen to us too when law and order breaks down in this country, and it will, by the way.

And if you don't think it will, I want what you're smoking.

I want what you're having.

You think that with the current trajectory of the United States that somehow we're going to maintain constitutional order, even if even if we have an extra con you know, I've seen people say things Baron Trump is going to be the new Caesar.

Actually, we're going to have a monarchy.

And no, no, no, we're not going to have a monarchy.

We're going to have.

Total chaos.

Total chaos.

A total breakdown of any semblance of order.

You want to know why?

Because you can't have a monarchy based on pure force.

You can't have a monarchy without a civil society in which that monarchy is meaningfully receptive.

In contrast to what John Locke and classical liberal theorists might have you believe, Hobbes, monarchies are not based in just one powerful guy dominating everyone else.

That's not what they're based in.

Monarchies are ultimately based in a social contract, right?

They're actually based in some kind of ability to represent their population.

And if you don't have a coherent, if you don't have an actual civilized population, people who exist in association for a historically organic reason, you don't have a monarchy.

So, no, the U.S.

isn't going to become like the Roman Empire.

It's going to become like Liberia in the 1990s.

There's nothing that unites us as a people anymore.

This is the brutal truth.

I'm not happy about that.

I was in Moscow.

I wish I wish we could be like that.

I wish we could be one big family, have a sense of social solidarity and all be one people.

I wish I didn't have to worry about when I'm on the street a crazy, retarded, autistic person coming up to me and just stabbing me for no reason.

Anonymous, what's going on?

Uh I long for that.

I dream of it.

Russia gave me uh Moscow gave me, to be more precise, something to dream about.

But it's just a dream.

We aren't a civilized country.

We're a country with a very powerful police and military force.

Mm, and when that's all you have, it doesn't bode well for order in the long term.

And we can already see that.

Our cities

our cesspits.

Our public infrastructure is crumbling.

You can't even walk on the sidewalk and be safe any more in America's major cities.

Can you name me a single major city in this country that is family-friendly, that you would be comfortable walking on the sidewalk with your kids on?

Probably none.

So how does that situation resolve itself?

Is there any way out?

Is there any way to overcome the irreconcilable differences between the American people?

They're not just racial differences.

It's a fundamental contradiction at the heart of the outlook of the American people.

One on the one hand, liberal, on the other hand,

conservative?

Call it whatever you want, red versus blue.

Urban versus rural

It's irreconcilable.

It's a polarization that no one is going to overcome.

Tell me how that ends.

Tell me how that ends, if not with people eating each other.

People were ready to eat each other in 2016.

You think we're somehow above that, what what what's going on in Haiti, where the sovereign state has collapsed and it's devolved into this kind of primordial tribal violence?

This this uh how would I put it?

What's the word for this this j this j primal genesis of state power and the war of all against all, this anarchy

Different tribes entering and going and associating.

Engag I mean, it's not even necessarily true, let's be honest.

Haiti isn't experiencing some kind of primordial social chaos.

That's only one part of the picture.

The other part of the picture is the vested foreign interests.

Ah, you forgot about that, right?

Vested foreign interests which have bribed some of these gangs, some of which are affiliated with multinational corporations or global capital.

Uh

It's like how people think the Congo is just a bunch of Africans fighting each other because they don't like each no, it's it's a proxy conflict is what is is what it is.

And something similar is undoubtedly happening in Haiti as well.

But I'd I'd love I'd love to do that thought experiment.

Police

Gone.

Um the power of the state gone.

What happens to the US?

Is it just black people who start eating each other?

Hmm, I don't think so.

I think white people will do it too.

I think everyone will start eating each other.

I mean, you you may make the case that there's small rural towns in white America

Where they kind of have some deep sense of.

Cultural solidarity and

and um inability to get along

But you know

It's not the full truth.

Go, for example, to West Virginia.

small, nice white towns where parents

are selling their kids into sexual slavery.

prostituting their own children.

To buy fentanyl, to buy drugs.

Don't think white people are somehow above the barbarism of capitalism.

They're not.

Russians are white.

Look what happened to Russia in the nineteen nineties.

And if you don't think Russians are white, I don't know what what white is any more, to be honest.

I understood when you said I'm not white.

I understand that.

I don't understand why you would say they're not.

Okay.

So what do we have in the case of Haiti?

One, oh my god, why are they why are they uh eating each other?

Well, we're not above that.

Two, oh Haz, why are you just blaming the US for all of their problems?

Well, I'm not necessarily blaming the US.

You can also blame the Haitians that listen to the U.S.

Maybe that's what we should be blaming.

We should be blaming the non-Western world for listening to the U.S., for listening to the global homo, for listening to the liberal ideology, the liberal hegemony.

Stop listening to them.

Stop believing their lies.

Stop believing the white man's lies.

But the problem is, once they stop believing your lies, you start feigning moral outrage.

You start crying like Jordan Peterson about Solzhenitsyn and that horror Yenmi Park.

That's the problem.

You need to just get over it.

Oh, Haas, what are you saying?

We should just leave Haiti alone and stop giving them aid?

That's not what I'm saying.

That's what they're saying.

They don't want your aid.

U.S.

aid in Haiti has exclusively served the purpose of making it impossible for Haitian farmers to compete with free food.

That's the purpose it serves in Africa.

I mean, how do you think people get paid in the world?

Do you think they just they just work at McDonald's or something?

No, they get paid from farming.

They get paid from these primary forms of production.

And USAID destroys those jobs.

Dear Lord, I am very sorry what I have done.

I have done sins, many sins.

I am scared of death and afraid that the devil himself comes to get me out of this world.

Please pray for me and help me right now.

Uh wife eater.

Yeah, we can't tell if that's in Haiti or if that's in Nebraska, to be honest, but may God help you wherever you are.

May God help you wherever you are.

And may the police find you.

May that happen as well.

May the police also find you.

But uh no, in all seriousness

In all seriousness, um they have no arguments.

They have no arguments.

They have generalities.

Oh, you're blaming Whitey for black man's problems.

Well, I'm an American.

We should take responsibility for the things we've done to other countries.

Shouldn't we?

Shouldn't we?

I mean, maybe you could say they're suckers for allowing it to happen.

Maybe you can try to make that argument.

But then you would be making the same argument many Haitians now are making, that are rising up and attempting to overthrow the government.

That's kind of what they're trying to say, that they've had enough of listening to the US and buying their lies.

And you're feigning moral outrage because of the violence.

Well, revolutions are always violent affairs.

You don't think the French were eating each other in seventeen eighty nine?

They were.

They were

Uh I love this veneer of civilization, law and order, that these right wingers hide behind to pretend like we're somehow a civilized country.

It's very cute.

It's just not true.

The truth is

We are a second away from tearing each other's heads off in this country.

And the only thing stopping us from doing it.

Is that

We can't get away with it right now.

But again, the when the polarization reaches the level of law enforcement, when it reaches the level of the repressive organs of the state, when it reaches the level of the military, who's gonna stop it?

People say, Hawes, why do you hate the government so much?

And I have to say, I mean.

I don't hate the government.

The government is going to be torn apart.

I don't have to hate them.

You see, that's the beauty of it.

This isn't the people versus the government.

This is the division that's going to split the entirety of this country, including the government.

You know, if if some kind of DHS agent apprehended me, I know you're at war with all of us.

I said, me, I'm at war with you.

You're at war with yourself.

Your fellow agent, you know, one is a transgender and the other one is a Ben Shapiro viewer.

You guys are going to coexist?

Good luck.

Even in your department, even in your department, you're polarized.

Every facet of U.S.

society is divided.

Even the government.

Who are you going to blame for that?

Me?

Russia?

It's a smart idea.

Blame Russia so that everyone can be united against Russia and ignore the

Irreconcilable differences they have with each other.

It won't work.

You tried it with Ukraine, it didn't work.

The conservative in intelligentsia are trying to be corralled into that.

That's the latest thing.

The pro-NATO right.

But they will never have the consensus of the base.

MAGA will never

Ever get behind it.

The American people won't get behind it.

You, parasite scum, intelligentsia, the failed right wing intellectuals of twenty sixteen,

Together with the left liberals,

Together,

You will attempt to fuse uh and enforce a kind of

A kind of

Unity ticket for the hegemony.

It won't work.

Because you don't have the support of the people, because the division at the level of the people is the problem.

You are already bought and paid for, you're already taken care of.

Notice something about Twitter ideologists.

There's all this there's a common solidarity they all share.

Doesn't matter where they fall on the political spectrum.

The common solidarity is they are this outmoded cultural intelligentsia, if you can even call them that.

Versus the plebeian masses who they all detest in common.

I can't tell you how many left liberals I see deriding and just seething at the existence of farmers.

I hate farmers.

And then right wingers say the same thing Farmers, what are we, brown?

We should all be wearing suits.

Like that Haas guy.

Fuck Oliver Anthony.

But what do I know?

I'm just uh

Just a brown third worldist.

You know, the interesting thing is that, uh

In the case of Haiti, um the conclusion is always going to be the same when when it comes to them.

They're we're not the ones advocating for any intervention in Haiti, they are.

Well, they they clearly can't get their society together, so we may as well do the base thing, just like the Roman Empire, and go and send our marines there and occupy them, just like we've done for a hundred years.

It's our birthright!

It's almost like these people are all feds.

It's almost like they're all feds and they're just doing whatever is in the interests of feds.

Isn't that crazy?

Isn't that crazy?

I want to show you some of these tweets.

We can get into that.

Uh okay.

Let's see.

This person, he clearly alerted the group chat, so he's beating back the ratio.

He alerted the whole right wing group chat to beat back this ratio.

Interesting.

Um, but what do we see on the merits?

The West has meddled in Haiti's affairs.

We, who is we, by the way?

This guy is.

Who is we?

The Western ruling class, he's a part of them.

No, he's not.

No, he's not.

This guy is literally a lump and gutter trash, low life.

There's no we there at all.

So, what he means to say is the global homo hegemony, the deep state, built them infrastructure, schools, hospitals, power plants, you name it, not true.

What was built?

The fifteen billion dollars of aid.

That was just looted by the Clinton Foundation.

Did you ninety percent of everything we've sent to Haiti was just recycled and laundered back to the US, probably for purposes of tax evasion, to be honest.

But we didn't give them anything.

That's just a fucking lie.

We built them infrastructure Where?

Where?

Three separate times, where?

What are you talking about?

What are you talking about?

We've literally stolen everything from Haiti.

They have nothing.

What does Haiti have that belongs to them?

We have taken everything for over 100 years.

It's never belonged to them.

The only thing that belonged to them were small plots of land owned by Haitian peasants.

And even those we started stealing in the past few decades.

This is such a lie, it's incredible.

562 people got on board with this lie.

Why?

Because they hate black people?

Why do you hate black people so much?

I don't get it.

Can someone help me understand why they hate black people so much?

I don't want to get Freudian or anything, but I'm really confused by it.

What did what why do you hate them so much for?

I mean, if black people are truly inferior, if they're truly subhumans,

Then leave them the fuck alone, first of all.

Oh, oh, you Haitians are so subhuman.

You're so black and subhuman, and and you're so you're so uh inferior to us that we need to constantly

Poison your society with our NGOs and our regime change operations and choose who your prime minister is and meddle in.

No, leave them alone.

Why can't you do that?

Ever try that?

At least once?

But anyway, why do you hate them so much, if they're truly so inferior as you say they are?

Where does the hatred come from?

Why do you hate them so much if they're inferior?

For example

You're inferior to me.

I don't hate you.

I just know that you're un inferior.

You're an inferior subhuman.

I see you like cattle, literally like cattle.

I see you in the way you right-wingers, I see you in the way you accuse Jews of seeing the Goyim.

That's literally how I see you, cattle.

I see you as subhuman.

Sometimes you can be corralled in different directions, sure, but oh, I don't see you as an equal.

I see you as, I mean, I try to give you good faith sometime, but when a cow just moves, what do you want me to do?

You just moo.

What can I say?

You can't reason, I can't reason with you.

You have no education, you don't read books.

What do you want from me?

Um so there's no hatred there.

I do think when we come to power that you're it may be a problem if you uh if you don't submit, there will be a problem.

Uh you can have whatever opinions you want, but you're just gonna have to submit.

Uh but it won't be personal, don't worry, I won't hate you.

When when I throw you in the gulag, I it won't be out of hatred, it'll just be a pragmatic necessity, maybe, if you cause trouble.

Anyway, um

Why do you hate black people so much?

We need to talk about that.

Is there a single right-winger that can explain why they hate black people so much?

Because you claim that you're better than them.

They're inferior to you apparently, but you hate them so much, you just can't leave them alone.

What does it mean to hate someone so much you just can't leave them alone, even if they have nothing to do with you?

I mean, where does that come from?

What is that?

I don't understand it.

I'd like someone to explain that to me.

Maybe one day.

I think there's another uh right winger who um

who's on their way to ratioing me.

This is the uh American education system, ready?

Or some shithole European country's education system.

I don't know.

So it's an anime profile picture.

Um so it's a transgender.

Haitians massacred the French, then installed a ruthless government where they enslaved blacks anyway.

Oh

Haitians massacred the French when, in eighteen oh four,

Blackpack, what's going on?

Chess was 95% white.

Um.

Minister, what's going on?

Uh, Haitians massacred the French in 1804, I believe.

If that's what you're talking about.

So this is apparently this is uh this is their way of educating people about

Over 200 years of history.

You know, that thing that happened, it's just like a Twitter Discourse thing where they just like they massacred and then they started enslaving blacks anyway, and it's just.

And then, um, you were lined up against the wall and massacred with a machine gun.

That happened in twenty thirty six.

Uh one by one lined up.

But for real, I mean, uh, what can I say?

1.3 thousand people find this to be an intelligent argument.

Or they just think it's like a smart thing to say.

I guess.

It's a it's a

It's a cool thing to say, I should rather say.

It's totally the vibe.

It's totally the vibe.

Like, why do you have to quote tweet me though?

Like, why do you have to put so much effort into this?

Why do you care?

That's the real question.

Why do you care?

If you're right, why do you care?

Why do you have to defend your argument?

Shouldn't it just be self-evident?

Like, what are you even trying?

What message are you even trying to convey?

Like, what's the goal?

Just to reveal how much you resent black people, because that's what it seems like to me.

You're just all collectively reveling in your collective resentment and butthurt over black people.

Is there anything else to this?

Because I'm educating people.

I'm educating people.

I'm telling non-Western people: hey, look at Haiti.

Don't ever listen to the Western liberal ideology.

Let them call you totalitarian.

Let them call you communist.

Let them call you whatever you want.

Cuba, for all its faults, is not experiencing the troubles Haiti is right now.

Lot of shit was thrown at them, but it was worth it.

Don't be scared to challenge the Western hegemony.

That's my message.

What's your message?

Coping?

Trying to make yourself feel better.

About not being black?

Do you have anything else?

Probably not because you have an anime profile picture, so you're a faggot.

This person's literally called anime profile pic.

US apologizes for evil colonialist actions.

When?

Pulls out all operations and leaves Haiti one hundred percent alone.

This is their actual education level.

You know, I kinda learned from my Chinese friends.

I could verbally tear these people to shreds and swear at them and stuff, but it's like, it's kind of nicer to just be like, you lack education.

It's kind of nice to just say that.

You know, 'cause it's true.

What else is there to say?

You're just a stupid person.

Like, there's nothing else to say.

You're just a stupid, ignorant person.

Mm.

Nothing you ever say or believe will ever be of any consequence to the world.

You will rot, die alone.

No one will remember your name.

I think that's really kind of what I'm getting at.

No one will remember your name.

I will I can die tomorrow, people will remember my name.

I will have been a part of something.

You, no one will remember your name.

You'll have no legacy.

You've contributed nothing to the world.

If you died, no one would care.

Anyone who'd shed a tear over you

amounts to no significance either.

you are quite literally a worthless, disposable,

Waste of life.

This sentence contributes absolutely nothing to the collective wealth of knowledge of mankind.

It contributes nothing.

It's just you uh reveling in your resentment toward of black people, and that's it.

We get it.

your butt hurt over black people.

But is there anything else?

Is there anything else?

I mean, is there literally anything else?

Your butt hurt over black people, we get it.

We understand.

What else?

Remember guys, we're the ones who are anti-white.

It's not just uh we're anti-white, by the way, because we're just not anti-black.

That's really what this all amounts to, and it's all it's ever amounted to.

We get accused of being anti white because we're not anti black.

In order to be pro-white, you have to hate black people and consider them subhuman.

Well, we don't, so I guess that makes us anti-white.

Uh in their eyes.

By the way, some of our memory uh di didn't uh

wasn't erased yesterday, okay?

We still remember what was it, two years ago, where the US was trying to invade Haiti and is undoubtedly going to try and use this as a pretext to invade it again.

And we will be there, we will be vigilant against the US interventionist agenda, and we will be here to crush any of its apologists on the plane of information warfare, including the right wingers.

But I see a lot of violence, a lot of violent resentment among these right wingers and

You know

Something's got to be done about that.

Uh

If America has a future civil war, they're going to be on the side of the liberal hegemony, by the way, they're not going to be on MAGA's side.

And, you know, they're gonna just be treated as the lump and criminal scum that they are, just like the Azovites in Ukraine.

By the way, the US completely left Haiti alone, but they uh killed their president in 2021, but they left them alone.

Honestly, they left him alone.

They appointed a deeply unpopular

Universally hated government.

But but in a way that like left them alone, you know?

They're stealing all and extracting all the resources, but like in a way that's like leaving them alone, you know?

They're enslaving them to debt on behalf.

I saw this really funny person who was like, if the IMF really wanted to enslave Haiti to debt, they would actually make Haiti prosperous, you know, so they could pay back the money because that's what global usury loves when you can pay the money back, right?

That's what usurious financial capitalists love, paying the money back.

I shit you not.

I saw that.

I saw someone, some right-winger make that claim, make that argument.

What can I say?

What can I say?

The the the education level speaks for itself.

Usur yes, usurious capitalists love when you pay them back.

That's their favorite.

It's not like they want to trap you in debt slavery forever so they could have a permanent claim to everything on your land and below the ground in your land.

No, no, no, no.

They want you to just pay them back so they can leave you alone and not have any exclusive and privileged access to your land and resources.

Of course.

Of course.

Of course.

Um

Jews and black people.

The primary contradiction, guys.

Jews and black people.

Where does it all come down to?

What does it all come down to?

Uh

Now I'm gonna do something rare.

I've kind of realized the debate era.

Right wingers don't debate anymore.

But I'll give them a chance.

Come and VC and infrared and debate me on Haiti if anyone wants to.

But I doubt they'll do it.

Highly doubt they'll do it.

I highly doubt they'll do that though.

Sue is, what's going on?

Uh they won't come and debate, by the way, because they'll get crushed, just like Patrick Casey was.

Uh, they can't say any of these things with their voice.

They talk about how much they hate black people and how racist they are, but every time they use their voice to say it, they sound like faggots, so they don't say it because they know how gay and retarded it sounds.

I I actually hate black people a lot.

And make no mistake, I wanna I wanna talk about the significance of uh

Why right wingers are so adamant in insisting upon you know the the racial hatred toward Haitians is in addition to wanting to run cover for US imperialism.

Uh and US intervention in Haiti.

What they're basically also going to try and do is use this as a pretext for racial violence in the U.S.

Uh and spreading racial enmity in the US in order to uh

Polarize society on racial rather than class based grounds, as they've always done.

Anyway, there's someone in show Q and we're going to bring them up.

Go ahead.

Yo, can you hear me?

Yeah.

Oh, what's up?

I don't know, what's up?

Uh so I am a fan of your show, believe it or not.

Um I just I don't understand this uh this Haiti stuff and this South Africa stuff.

It just seems like it's

It's completely delusional.

You know, I mean, uh South Africa and Haiti, they don't even have electricity.

Uh if it weren't for Western aid, they would completely starve to death.

And uh I just I don't see how uh South Africa and Haiti are are the future of um I guess socialism.

When did I say Haiti was the future of socialism, first of all?

Second of all, you claim that they don't elev have electricity and are reliant on Western aid.

Uh why?

Well, I mean they've been reliant on it since

Probably, I don't know, decades, hundred years.

How long has Haiti tell me?

How long has Haiti received Western Aid?

I don't know the exact history of Haiti, but I'm assuming many decades.

And how long has Haiti been an independent country, formally speaking?

Well, that depends on your definition, I guess.

How did Haitians feed themselves before uh the free food

Well, I mean, I guess they barely survived.

I mean, that's kind of the point that before the West started giving them aid, they were barely getting by.

I mean, they were on the brink of starvation.

You know, that's kind of the point.

They're on the brink of starvation now with Western aid.

Yeah, that that shows that proves the point even more that even with us helping them, they still can't still can't get it right.

How did we help them by causing rampant unemployment by devastating the agricultural economy and putting their farmers out of work?

How did that help them?

I mean, were they farming to begin with?

Were they even able to do that?

If they had farms, then I don't think we would have had to give them aid, right?

Are you sure about that?

If they were able to feed themselves, why would we have to give them so much aid?

This is Africa, this is Haiti.

Why give them aid if they can't manage it?

I'm going to give you the opportunity to guess.

If Haiti had farms, why did we send them aid?

What was the purpose of that if they had farms and they were producing their own agricultural foodstuffs and products as small peasant proprietors?

Why did we give them aid instead?

What would you guess?

Did they have that, though?

That's the point.

Okay.

So I don't know.

Do you want to take a guess as to why we filled their country with so-called aid, even though they had uh an agricultural economy?

Yeah, my my contention is that I don't think they really did.

I think they probably had some agriculture.

They obviously they weren't all starving to death or they wouldn't exist.

They'd be extinct.

They didn't have any food.

The point is that us giving them aid is because they weren't able to feed themselves.

So we were doing it out of charity.

I mean, it largely is out of charity.

I mean, again, if you stopped all aid to Haiti, you stopped all aid to Africa, tens of millions of people would just starve.

Let's focus on Haiti.

I want to focus on this black hate fetish, so you want to conflate everything into one thing.

Well, I wouldn't say that.

I mean, let's go.

So let's focus on Haiti.

Let's focus on Haiti because Africa is a big place.

Let's go.

Let's focus on Haiti and point out that, I mean, you see right now, the number one figure that has the most control of the country is a cannibal leading a gang of cannibals called barbecue.

They're literally eating each other.

Okay.

That's what's happening right now.

They're literally in the streets.

You can see the videos on Twitter.

They're literally eating each other.

Wow.

Anyway, I want to talk about this topic of USAID before we get into that.

Your view is that it was done out of charity?

Well, I think it was done out of charity.

It was done to influence.

Um, different countries.

It was done for influence.

I don't think it was it was purely for charity, but I think a lot of it is charity.

Okay, how much of is is it charity as a percentage, do you think?

I don't know.

I mean, I think it's probably more cynical.

It's probably d to do with Western influence and Western control over that area.

So is it about charity or no?

I think that's partly to do with charity.

How much?

I don't know, maybe twenty percent, thirty percent.

That's a really interesting figure.

So if it's about Western influence, what kind of influence do you think that is?

Is it economic influence?

Uh yeah, probably, probably that's a good idea.

Well, probably to prevent them from going into going into the sphere of Russia or China, things like that.

I mean, okay.

Consult me.

I mean, you're more well-read on this stuff.

You're right.

I am.

We're not.

You're right.

We're debating.

And, you know.

So are you here to debate or are you here to get educated?

I don't understand.

Well, if you can tell me why Haiti is so dysfunctional, then I'm ready to hear it.

I just don't see how.

Let's start with the fact that their agricultural economy, which they did have, their primary form of subsistence for most Haitians, was agricultural subsistence.

And we went out of our way to devastate that through land enclosures, more or less, driving people from their land, which they no longer own anymore, in part through the mechanism of USAID.

Because when you pump their country with free food, suddenly farmers can't compete with the price of zero.

So it devastates the source of income for the majority of people there, pauperizing them, barely even proletarianizing, by the way.

But to the extent that it does do that, driving them into mines, driving them into factories owned by multinational corporations to extract their resources.

And even even to the extent that it doesn't do that, it destroys competition for US agriculture.

Haiti's entire rice economy was completely destroyed.

Suddenly, there's no longer a competitor to the U S agricultural

Exports there, and we have full control.

We completely, completely control them economically by the throat.

But that's not even the best part of it.

Because even before we accomplished that complete economic stranglehold through so-called aid, Haiti has never had a sovereign government.

Every government that it's had for the past hundred years, we appointed.

And to the extent that any kind of leader arose in that country that we didn't approve of, we simply killed them.

We kidnapped them.

Or the French did it.

Well, I crued them and appointed our own.

The most recent president, obviously, I mean, that was the CIA.

I would agree with you on that.

But I think other examples were three years ago.

Three years ago.

Yes, I completely agree.

That was three years ago.

I don't know the whole history.

If you can point to me, was the leader before then?

Was he assassinated?

Was he forced out?

In 2021, the prime minister was assassinated by former DEA agents in a plot that was based in Miami.

It was organized in Florida and Columbia.

Yes, I'm well aware of that.

I'm asking other leaders before that.

I mean, you said that.

It's an assassination of any leader.

They were assassinated.

We can even pull up a list.

Yeah, I'm not familiar with that.

I was assuming that obviously some have been taken out or couped or forced out, but I don't think every single president uh has been you know assassinated or forced out.

I'm I know the most recently.

Not every single one was because a great deal of them were just our puppets.

But those that we didn't approve of, we simply assassinated them.

Those that had a chance of coming to power that we didn't approve of, we assassinated for over a hundred years, by the way.

Native liberal fascism.

Yeah, I'd have to look up.

I'd have to see exactly the number of leaders that that's happened to.

I know the most recent example, obviously, and I'm sure there are other examples, but yeah, I'm sure there are.

And that's even forgetting the assassinations, the coups that we've carried out there.

Where we didn't even have to necessarily kill the former leaders, they were just deposed illegally.

There's a huge deal of corruption, both from the actual Haitian leaders and government, but also obviously the West.

I mean, the Clintons and basically every president.

I think you're trying to put it all on the West, whereas Haiti is just a prime example of this is what the third world is.

It's just complete corruption, complete chaos.

And I think that's you're sort of all.

By the third world, are you referring to 80% of the global population?

Because I can assure you that 80% of the global population isn't the same as Haiti.

Well, I think you look at Haiti, I think Haiti compared to Africa is pretty similar.

You think Haiti is just like Nairobi, Kenya?

Though I'm not familiar with Nairobi, Kenya, I'm sure that uh it's probably not as bad there, but I'm sure many other places in Africa are pretty damn bad.

Africa's an entire continent.

Yeah.

So so that's don't you think that's a little j like general?

You think like Africa is just like one of the things.

Yeah, and look, there are there are places in Africa that are safer and nicer, just like there are places in the US that are safer and nicer than others.

But in general, it isn't a country.

It's literally a continent.

Yes, I'm I'm aware of that.

I think the continent of Africa is not a promising continent.

I think that there's a lot of problems there.

Okay, you're being politically correct.

You just believe that black people are incapable of building any kind of country.

So that's your opinion.

There's no need to beat around the bush.

The reason you're making a lot of people.

Well, I'm not going to be able to do that.

I'm pointing out that without USAID, without welfare, without the U.S.

essentially taking the lead on a lot of these things, whether it's for good reasons or bad reasons, these countries descend into complete chaos and anarchy.

In Burkina Faso, Thomas Sankara got to power and told the West to stop giving.

I was told by the CIA, I'm more aware of that.

I think he was a great leader if he had to.

Why do you think that they need US aid?

Well, look at it now.

I mean, are they able to survive without it?

That's the point I'm making.

Yeah, clearly they are.

If we need to assassinate their leaders when they're trying to cut themselves off from it, clearly they can't.

And during that time there were obviously genocides going on and there was turmoil all over the world.

What do you think is different uh now from then when it comes to US aid and the role that it plays and foreign aid in general?

I'm not really sure what you mean by that.

Western aid in Africa has always played the same role, underdeveloping it and preventing the sovereign growth of their own economy, beginning from the primary sector, which is the agricultural sector.

I see how it can have economic effects on it.

But the point is that we wouldn't be giving them aid.

We give them aid because it's a good deal.

Because if we can completely put a stranglehold on how they feed themselves, we get access to all of their precious minerals and resources, which are vital for the global semiconductor supply chain, the production of global electronics, precious minerals and resources, which we need to have an edge.

We, the ruling class, needs to have an edge when it comes to technology.

So it's a good deal for them.

Yeah, they're going to give them USAID to control them.

That's what they do to control them.

Once they control them, they own all their resources.

If you control how people feed themselves, you make them desperate.

You force them to give you their rights to their mines, to their minerals.

We do take resources from them.

But the point is that if we stopped giving them aid, they would not be able to govern themselves or feed themselves.

That's where's your proof?

What was it like?

Why did we give them aid in the first place?

It wasn't to immediately take over all of their stuff.

Yes, it was.

We were giving them aid.

There were genocides going on.

All these genocides.

Yes, it was.

It was largely charity.

It was largely NGOs.

It wasn't even the U.S.

government originally.

Who do you think funds NGOs?

Do you think NGOs are actually independent?

Very true, but some of them are independent.

Some of them are funded by billionaires.

Yeah, and do you think those billionaire, the billionaires are the ones who control the government in the first place?

So what are we talking about?

No, fair point.

Fair point, actually.

Fair point.

I actually agree with that.

I can see that.

I just I think you're underestimating the sort of anarchy and the uh the ability to really have a functioning society that exists in these places, you know, regardless of US aid, regardless of if you're giving them aid.

But how can you say regardless of Western aid or regardless of Western colonialism when you can't point to examples of the absence of those things?

Well, before we gave them aid, they were almost starving, or there were genocides going on.

That's the point.

We had to go in and stop them.

We gave them aid, they were literal colonies.

We had to stop them from killing millions of each other with machetes.

I think we had to do it specifically about the Rwandan genocide.

What are that?

That's one example.

That's one of many examples.

What are the other examples?

You look at Somalia.

We had to go in and we had many U.S.

troops get killed because we tried to help those people.

We went to Somalia to help the Somali people.

This is news to me.

When did we do that?

Why was the US involved in Somalia to begin with?

We went there to make sure that the people were getting the aid and not just the warlords.

Hold on.

Why was the US in the Horn of Africa?

I don't know.

What a brilliant question.

Why were we in the Horn of Africa?

Can you think of any kind of reason for that?

Can you think of a geographic reason?

The reason they stated at the time was it was a humanitarian mission along with the UN.

Do you believe that?

Because I don't.

I believe it somewhat.

I think there were definitely other reasons.

We could do a bases, obviously, all over Africa.

I'm sure you also believe that we went into Iraq to topple a horrible dictator as well.

I don't believe that whatsoever.

Okay, then why would you believe the stupid shit they say about why we were in Somalia?

Why do you think we were in Somalia?

Why were we in Somalia?

Because it's literally the Horn of Africa, because we wanted to maintain a foothold there, because it's one of the most geographically important reasons, strategically speaking, for enforcing the global hegemony.

It's literally fundamental for maritime trade.

It's literally one of the most important straits in the world.

But they went in and they didn't stay.

It's not like after the Black Hawk Down situation, we decided to fully stay there with tens of thousands of troops.

That's not what happened.

We didn't need to.

We made sure that.

There are no But if we're there to take over and to you know establish a foothold there, why wouldn't we send more troops?

Wouldn't that be the perfect uh example, the perfect sort of false flag incident?

They just gave ourselves a trip.

We secure w the US AFRICOM secured the location, yes.

They don't need to send troops.

They don't need to keep troops there.

They made sure that why do we have troops there now then?

We do have troops there.

Yeah, why do we, though?

For the same reason, why are they there?

For the same reason we went in originally.

I don't know what you're trying to say.

You're trying to say that that the US is controlling the Horn of Africa in Africa.

And when I say like, well, why don't we have so many troops there?

You said, Well, they don't need the troops.

But now they do have troops there.

Now there's more troops.

They don't have as many troops.

Okay.

So I think we've got ran into a circle.

The US did not go to Somalia for humanitarian reasons.

I don't know where you got that from.

My understanding is that the Somalis were starving.

Us, along with many other countries, why would we talk about Somalis starving?

Ethiopians starved.

That wasn't a pretext for us going into Ethiopia.

Plenty of people starved.

We don't care about that.

Yemenis were going to be starving because of our support for Saudi Arabia's war there.

But we didn't care about that.

So what makes you think the U.S.

just goes places to help starving people?

I don't understand.

Well, that might be the that's sort of the pretext, but that was the stated reason.

That's all I'm saying.

I'm not saying I believe the government.

I'm saying that the government was acting totally righteously.

I'm just pointing out that when we went into Somalia, the whole reason when we went in in the 90s was because these people were starving.

We were giving them aid, and that aid was being seized by all the warlords and not going to be able to do that.

What was going on is that we took advantage of the collapse of the Somali government.

And we took advantage of that to make sure that we could arrange a deal with some of the warlords there in ways that are favorable to the interests of...

The US ruling class and global capital.

But my understanding is that we went there and and they were there to kill a lot of these warlords.

They weren't there to make a deal with them.

Well, your understanding is wrong.

Uh yeah, the warlords that didn't favor us, sure, but not the but we were there to make sure that our guys, we would have our guys there who support the US and its interests.

Well actually this is actually an interesting aside that I that I'll I'll ask you about.

Ilban Omar I saw something about her father was a colonel in the collapse into anarchy.

That's when Somalia had a socialist central government and central state.

Oh, so that so that is true.

I s I saw that I wasn't sure.

I mean look I I'm just wondering if that was true.

Yeah, in any case, I think your understanding of the African continent is a little too general.

I think you're thinking about a lot of the things we saw about the Rwandan genocide in high school and middle school and assume this is a universal state of existence for all of Africa when it's not.

This is actually something that is noted for its exceptionality.

There was the Congo conflict, of course.

It's still raging.

It's a horror over there.

But the idea that

This is because we left Africans alone and they're uncivilized, rather than because the actual reason, which is they don't have any sovereign states, because Western powers take turns backing various proxy factions.

I think both can be true.

I mean, the whole reason we're able to get over these areas is because there was no state because they weren't able to civilize.

They weren't able to have a society for themselves.

That's kind of what I'm saying.

Where's your proof?

Where's your proof they couldn't have a society for themselves?

Where's your proof that they did?

That's the point.

How about if we were able to so easily take advantage of them?

How were we able to so easily do that?

Before Colonialism

Well no, I think your view your view of Africa is very general too, in the sense that you're sort of it's very into third worldism.

I know you don't like that term, I know you deny being the third worldist, but uh I think it's it's it's much too idealistic and it's it's sort of ignoring that regardless of colonialism, regardless of the West, uh these are not you know functioning places.

What do you mean by functioning?

Because they were functional societies, obviously, before colonialism.

Well, I mean, you're probably going to say this is a white nationalist talking point, but they had not built a two-story building.

They did not even have a two-story building.

Who didn't have a two-story building?

In Africa.

That's just not wrong.

They had not built two-story buildings until the West came along.

But you're wrong.

You're just wrong.

I don't know what to tell you.

The idea that there was no two-story building in Africa before Western colonialism is just wrong.

I don't know what to tell you.

Well, you'd have to show me how that's wrong because I think that's a very well-accepted fact that they did not invent the wheel and they did not even have a two-story building.

The wheel was more or less invented.

The wheel was only invented like two or three times, and none of those times were in Europe.

And I don't think they were in Africa either.

That's that's the point.

So so what are you trying to say?

It's not common for the wheel to be independ uh invented independently anywhere.

It's just it happened like once or twice and then it diffused.

I mean like i it didn't it wasn't invented in Europe.

Yeah, I just my point that I'm making is, and you know, I don't mean to go in circles, if you want to get someone else on the call, that's fine, is I think you're far too idealistic.

I don't, I don't, I don't wait, wait, wait, wait, there's it doesn't make any sense.

I'm being very concrete here about the facts, and you're calling me idealistic.

On what basis do you call me idealistic?

I mean, I know what you're saying.

You're saying is my baked in conception is that black people are wild animals who just kill each other for no reason.

And you're idealistic for viewing this as an inadequate description of the reality of Africa.

I don't African people in history.

I don't know.

I mean, I think you're idealistic.

I think you just kind of have a wrong view of how anything in the world works.

You claim that, well, regardless of U.S.

and Western intervention, it would just be like that.

And I implore you to prove it.

I mean, what example do you have of that?

You say that before Western colonialism, they weren't as technologically advanced as we are now.

That doesn't mean they didn't function as a society.

That doesn't mean that it was a state of total anarchy and chaos.

It just means it's sort of it sort of was though.

That's the point.

I mean, before the West came along, they were eating each other and killing each other, and there was no central governments.

I mean, it was just total chaos.

And when the West came along, they did exploit them.

They did do things that were wrong.

And they did things for their own reasons.

I think you look at Haiti, you look at Haiti, and we'll go back to Haiti.

We went there, we tried to give them aid, we tried to help them.

And you can say that we exploited them.

You can say that.

And I would say that we tried to help Haiti.

Did we try to help them?

The same thing that happened in 1804 when they rose up and had a revolution and killed all the white people is happening now.

Now they're just killing each other and they're literally cannibalizing people in the streets in real time.

So did we try to help Haiti when we enslaved them before their revolution?

Is that what you're saying?

When did we try to help them?

That's not what I'm saying.

I'm saying after that revolution, we tried to do that.

When did the U.S.

ever try to help Haiti even once?

Go ahead.

all of the billions and billions of dollars of aid that we've given them you mean ninety percent of which was laundered back to the united states not a dime i think some of i think it was definitely money laundering and do you think do you think do you think they own they own hatrian government took away the money laundering do you think

Do you think $15 billion can produ just produces six houses?

Does that make sense to you?

Of course not.

I think you're looking at it's Western corruption and then it's the the typical third world corruption that you see in Africa, you see in Latin America.

You try to give them money and they pocket it themselves, the elites of that society.

H how is the Haitian government pocketing it when 90% of it went back to the U.S.?

Did 90% of it go back to the U.S.?

Where did the other all right?

So let's say that 90% of it somehow went back to the U.S.

The rest of it went right back to their own leaders, their own corrupt leaders that are unable to have a society.

Okay, what do you call that though?

It's called a bribe.

Do you know what that's called?

It's called a bribe.

Like how we bribed the Haitian government in 2015 to help us with regime change operations in Venezuela.

We didn't call it bribe, but you can look at other places.

You can look at, again, Mugabe.

Did he just take a bribe from the West or was he just pocketing all that money for himself while the currency, you know, $1 is equivalent to $1 trillion Zimbabwe dollars?

Was he just taking that money himself, right?

You think inflation in Zimbabwe happened because of foreign aid?

No, I think it was due to corruption by Mugabe, who was essentially the dictator.

And it was also due to him kicking out all the white people while he was.

Yeah, it was due to capital flight, dude.

I don't know what the Can I can I can I tell you something?

You know most of the world thinks like the West is like enlightened and educated and stuff.

So so apparently white people are supposed to be like smart about shit.

But when it comes to anything related to black people, you just sound retarded and extremely uneducated.

I mean, like, the things you said are crazy.

You said that we've tried to help Haiti, that we did it out of charity.

You said that we tried to help Africa out of charity.

We did give them aid.

We did give them billions of dollars.

No, there was obviously corruption.

There was obviously kickbacks.

No, no, no, but none of that was unintentional.

Simon, none of that was unintentional.

We gave them...

I didn't say that.

I think it was clearly intentional, but the point is.

So it wasn't charity.

We weren't trying to help them.

We weren't trying to help them.

We never tried to help them.

They still did.

They still did.

The U.S.

has never tried to help Haiti on anything even once, ever.

I I mean, you can look at all of the money we've given them.

I'm sure many of it is.

How is that to help Haiti, though?

That wasn't to help Haiti.

That was either to launder money or bribe their leaders to do what we wanted, which was against the interests of the Haitian people.

So how did that help them?

We still gave them billions of dollars and some of that aid, even if you say 90% of it went back to the US, 90% of it was just corruption.

Some of it is, we have still given billions of dollars to help these people, and they are just unable to do anything.

We haven't given them one cent to help them.

So, so no money has ever gone to help them at all?

No.

Every single dollar that we've tried to send them has just gone back to the Clintons or gone to their corrupt leaders.

You're telling me that zero aid has gone to them at all in decades.

When you factor in the profits that were made by the multi-national corporations that benefited from this stuff, zero.

Probably it's actually not only zero.

It's not really a way to look at it.

Not only zero, it's in the negatives.

When you factor in we've just taken everything from them.

Yes, that's what I've been trying to tell you.

Thank you.

Yes.

We have taken everything from Haiti.

Yes.

I've tried not to raise my voice, but that's literally the truth.

We have literally taken everything.

No, no, we have literally taken everything down to the land they stand on.

We have taken everything from Haiti.

They have all this mineral wealth.

They have all of this, all of these natural resources.

That we have taken.

We took everything.

Yes.

Well, I would say this, and I'm not saying this as I'm like in support of it or anything, but the point is that if we had just let that sit there, it would sit there for the next thousand years because they would be unable to do anything with it.

They wouldn't even expect where's your proof based on what?

Well, I think the average IQ, and you know, you can deny IQ, the average IQ of Haiti is 67.

And the average IQ of someone with Down syndrome, I believe, is 65.

So half the people in Haiti are by the way.

Yeah, they have Down syndrome.

You're so right.

You're so right.

They have retard-level understanding.

And that's kind of your problem.

Exactly.

Exactly.

And it's like if only they were as smart as you, because here's the thing, Simon, okay?

So first we said that we were giving Haiti so much for free out of charity.

I said some of it was charging.

No, okay, Simon, sorry.

First, your argument was that in spite of the fact of how much we've given them, they're still a failed society, yada, yada.

That's proof they're a failed society because if we've given them so much and they still can't do anything with it, clearly there's something racially wrong with them or something, right?

Then you said, then I got you to admit that we literally took everything from them.

We actually took everything from them.

And I was saying, well, actually, that's for their own good because if we hadn't done that, then they wouldn't have done anything with it at all.

And then I say, well, what's your proof of that?

And you say, well, we went down there and measured their IQs and made them take IQ tests, which I'm sure they were thrilled to take these tests and really incentivized to do well on them.

And then they came out with a score that's the same as people with Down syndrome.

So they have no, so they're not even like human.

They have no ability to do anything because of our tests.

That's not exactly what I said.

The point is that you can look at Haiti.

Look at what's happening right now.

I kind of meet each other in the streets.

They are burning down every single building.

The few buildings are standing.

So leave them alone.

Why can't you?

I agree.

I would have no problem leaving Haiti alone as long as they don't come to the U.S.

Because what's going to happen is all Simon Haitians are going to come to the U.S.

and they're going to fuck up the U.S.

That's deserves it.

And the U.S.

deserves it.

I wouldn't say that.

Come on, man.

Because here's why you deserve it.

And they should go to your neighborhood.

I want them to go to your neighborhood specifically.

I have no idea.

Simon, I know you claim to be left alone.

And if all of the Haitians kill each other and eat each other, then I guess that's their own self-destruction.

Simply, I don't want them in the U.S.

If you don't want them in the U.S., you should prevent your own government from meddling in their affairs.

I 100% agree.

I don't know.

I don't think that's a good idea.

You don't do that.

We ever should have given them aid, whether it was for charity or nefarious reasons.

We should have let them live their own lives.

Simon, I know you're very passionate about hating black people, but you have to let me get a word in here.

I know that you believe all these things that you're fine with that, but your government isn't fine with it.

Your government has an incentive to continue meddling in Haiti's affairs because the ruling class benefits from this meddling.

So until you have the balls to stand up to the imperialist meddling of your own ruling class, instead of running apologetics for them and justifying the evil, nefarious shit that they're doing in the world.

Yes, you are.

You're saying you just told me that had we not looted everything Haiti owns, that it would be better off looting it because it would have just stayed in the ground anyway.

You're literally running apologetics for the country.

I don't know if it's not apologetics at all.

I wouldn't say it's apologetics at all.

The point I'm making is.

Is that Haiti is coming?

Wow, what's going on, man?

Thank you so much.

It's completely dysfunctional.

Leave it to its own devices.

I don't think the U.S.

ever should have gotten involved, ever should have given the maid.

Simon, that's totally generous of you, but you're not the one in power who has anything to gain from it.

The ruling class does.

So you're going to have to convince the people who have billions and billions of dollars at stake, even more than that.

I agree.

We will take down this evil empire together as MAGA communism.

Simon, you're getting in the way of taking down the empire when you're running apologetics for the empire.

I don't think it's apologetics to say that regardless of what the U.S.

does, Haiti is still completely dysfunctional.

The U.S.

could have left it alone for 200 years and it would be the same state it's in right now.

It would be completely dysfunctional.

I don't think that's fair to say.

Therefore, it's totally fine if we send the Marines to Haiti again.

I wouldn't say therefore, I don't agree with that at all.

I don't agree with that whatsoever.

But you have a toothless response to the U.S.'s ongoing intervention in Haiti when you insult and demean and dehumanize the Haitians.

I don't think it's dehumanizing just to point out what the reality is.

I think it's just being honest.

I think it's more dehumanizing to think that without the U.S., the U.S.

leaves everything tomorrow.

They let them govern themselves.

I don't think it's fair to say, oh yeah, if we just leave them alone, they're going to create a civilization like America or Europe or anywhere else or Latin America, literally anywhere else in the world.

It's going to be chaos no matter what.

I think that's the point of trying.

Haiti is inherently dysfunctional.

Where's your proof?

Look at the history of it.

The history of Haiti.

Before we ever free from it was still the same things going on.

It was still when was Haiti ever free from Western colonialism besides like for a few years?

I believe in the late 1800s they were basically free and then white started going back there to sort of see what was free in the late 1800s.

You have to tell me the history.

I'm pretty sure that's the example.

You can look at Haiti was untouched in the late 1800s for, I think, at least a couple of decades.

Do you really believe that?

I do believe that.

You can show me the history if if you have something to to dispute, but they killed all the whites.

They had some period of freedom and then obviously the French was meddling and obviously many other places were meddling in it.

But I believe in the late 1800s they were essentially left alone for at least a couple of decades.

And they were and Haiti was almost sort of rediscovered by many whites that went there to sort of see what was going on there.

Haiti wasn't even left alone a few years after their independence.

You think they were left alone in the late 1800s?

If you have some history to dispute, you can tell me the history, but that's standard thing.

The history is that the West never left Haiti alone and made sure that Haiti could never prosper because they were fucking butthurt and humiliated over the fact that you had this Spartacus-style slave revolt, which they could never allow to serve as an example of people emancipating and freeing themselves from not only slavery, but Western colonialism in general.

So no, we've never.

I think slavery is obviously bad.

I'm not going to defend slavery.

But the point is that these Haitians, they killed all the white people, and then they put on the clothes of their oppressors, the nice clothes that the French left that weren't burned by then.

And they are not going to become French by putting on the clothes of the people that were previously.

Haiti will never become successful.

It just never will.

It will never be a functional nation.

And that's just how it is.

So are you God?

That's the point.

Why do you think Haiti is going to somehow become successful?

Every American, every Westerner left Haiti tomorrow, which I'm not going to do.

Simon, this is a stupid argument.

How long would it take?

100 years, 200 years?

How long is it going to take for Haiti to have some semblance of civilization?

It doesn't matter because Haiti was never left alone since its independence.

It was never left alone.

I don't have to speculate about anything in the future when we never left them alone.

My point is, I think.

The West has never left them alone and fucked off from Haiti ever.

Okay?

It's never happened.

The crux of the debate is this.

I think that you look at what's happening in Haiti, and I saw some of your tweets today.

What's happening in Haiti now, it's complete chaos, it's complete anarchy.

I don't think something better is going to come out of that.

I don't think that all of the West leaving them and basically them not being able to have any aid because there's nowhere to even give it to them because it's all warlords now.

That's not the only thing that's not.

I don't think anyone in the world has to give a flying fuck about what you think about Haiti's future.

Why do you think Haiti has some sort of bright future?

What what would do I'm not a fucking uh stock market speculator who's um

Who's making clear?

I think you agree with me.

I don't think Haiti is going to be able to be some s successful place.

I don't think it ever will be.

You're just trying to say that Haitian people are subhuman.

That's just what you're trying to say.

I'm not saying that.

I'm just saying.

I'm not saying that.

Just own it.

Simon, just own it.

You're not getting canceled.

We already know you're a neo-Nazi or whatever.

So just own it.

You think that Haitians.

Are subhumans

And cannot rise to the level of what you consider civilization because of their race.

That's what you think.

Am I wrong?

I think you can look at the history and you can look at Simon.

Stop being a pussy and just admit what you think.

You think black people are inferior.

You know what?

Actually, you know what?

You know what, Haz?

Maybe we will agree on this.

I'm not going to say they're subhuman.

I'll say this though.

When it comes to Haitians, and honestly, when it comes to Indians and Somalis, I'm not a fan.

I think that they really don't offer much in the fucking world.

I'll admit that.

I mean, I'll say that.

And you also think that they are racially inferior.

I mean, you can put it that way if you don't.

Am I going to say that?

No, no, no, no, that's what you think.

I want you to say it with your chest.

You think Haitians are racially inferior and you regard them as subhuman.

I don't view them as subhuman.

I think that they are never.

You regard Haitians as racially inferior.

Just say it with your chest.

Please say the sentence.

I don't do it in the middle.

Why are you such a pussy?

I know you could type it.

You could type it on Twitter, but you can't say it with your technology.

Why are you so ashamed of it?

Are you scared of getting canceled or something?

You're already canceled for the shit you just said.

Not by me, but by whatever you're scared of.

Are you afraid of getting fired or kicked from university?

Just tell us the reason.

Well, not at all.

I don't view I don't view it in terms of the terms.

Simon, you think they are an inferior race.

That's what you think.

I never said that.

I don't believe that.

I don't think that Haitians are going to be successful.

And I don't think that they have race.

Because of their race.

I think it has to do with history.

I think it has to do with IQ.

And maybe race.

I think race does play a role.

Race plays a role in IQ.

So it's because of their race.

I don't see it.

So you think it's because of their race.

It's crazy.

It's crazy.

I don't believe that.

Simon, I'm a little frustrated because I see right-wingers on Twitter.

I can never get a single one of them to admit with their voice, to say with their chest, the things that they type without any issue.

You're trying to get me to say that I believe that a group of people is racially inferior.

I don't believe that.

Which is what you think.

I don't believe that.

I don't put it in those terms.

I believe that.

You're just being politically correct about it, but that's actually what you think.

You could just admit it.

That's what you think.

Why are you scared to submit it?

I'm not gonna put it in your terms of I think that's a group of people is subhuman 'cause I don't believe that.

I don't put it in those terms.

You're the one trying to force it to be.

Okay, okay, you don't have to say subhuman.

You could just say you think they're racially inferior.

I wouldn't say racial.

I think they're inferior based on history, based on IQ.

No, no, no.

I think race obviously plays a role in IQ.

I don't think race is a race.

How does history play a role in your I don't you do you think Haitians are are a distinct race?

Do you think black people are inferior to white people?

I wouldn't put it in those terms.

I think that they're less successful.

I don't think they have the ability to be as successful as whites.

Okay.

So you're I don't I don't view it I don't view it as an entire group are racially you think inherently speaking black people are racially incapable of um self-determination

No, I think every group uh deserves self-determination.

I think every group can have self-determination in some way.

I just don't think that the civilization you see in America, in Europe, or La even Latin America or Asia is going to be it's not going to be at that level.

So it's just not.

So so what at what level do you think it's going to be at?

I mean, you look at history, you look at regardless of colonialism, I don't think it's going to be very successful.

I think that if there's going to be black self-determination, it's going to always depend on essentially the white man's burden of giving them aid and trying to help them.

And why do you think it out themselves?

Why do you think that?

I think IQ has a lot to do with it.

I think history kind of shows that you think that's the black race just has that IQ.

That's what you're trying to say.

I don't think they're as intelligent as Asians or whites in general.

And I think you look at history and history sort of shows that.

I don't think that makes someone a subhuman or inferior to be less intelligent.

So, okay, so it's you're not, you're not saying they're inferior.

You're not saying they're subhuman.

You just think they lack the fundamental premises of civilization.

I don't think we can expect them to be as successful as other groups.

I think that's a fair way to put it.

I don't think they're going to be.

I don't think we can really expect them.

Simon, you've twisted yourself into a pretzel because earlier you just said that Haitians and Africans will always just end up slaughtering each other and starving and all this kind of stuff.

So it's not, we're not talking about like, oh, they're just not going to be as successful.

I mean, even that, we obviously know this is a racist view, but I mean, I think they're not.

You basically think they're animals.

You think that they're animals.

Stop talking about history.

You think that they're animals.

Just admit it.

I don't think entire groups of people are animals, but I think what you're seeing in Haiti right now is that they are a bunch of savages.

I mean, they're acting like animals in Haiti right now.

They're literally eating people in the open and they're burning down every building and they're killing each other like animals.

I would say that.

I'm not going to say the Haitians are subhuman animals.

I'd say they're acting like a bunch of fucking crazy people.

Do you think French?

Do you think that's true for French people too?

Are French people doing the shit like that right now?

In the middle of Paris, are the actual French people eating each other?

They did it.

And burning down every single building?

In 1789 they did.

Sure.

Yeah.

Maybe 300 years ago they were doing that when there was a revolution and starvation and all that.

That was 300 years ago.

The Haitians are doing it right now.

We're seeing it on an iPhone camera.

I mean, I think that kind of proves their point.

So what what does that say about the racial factor?

I think it's a matter of IQ.

I think it's a matter of you look at the history.

So, 300 years, so, so.

French people have a um were selected in a Darwinist way over the course of uh

I wouldn't say that I I I think the French I mean you look at the French in seventeen eighty nine and you look at uh well I mean how did the French uh raise their IQ after three hundred years if it's inborn and it's it's something racial?

Well, I mean, there was there was French civilization going back before that.

There really wasn't African civilization.

There were tribes in mud huts.

And I know you're going to say that.

Oh, well, it's so stupid.

I don't even know what to say.

It's so stupid.

It's like, how do you even respond to something just so wrong?

First of all, you could care.

I don't even know where to begin with that.

It's so stupid.

What did the French countryside look like in this 1789?

You think it was just a bunch of elaborate castles and stuff?

No, the majority of peasants were living in squalor and shit.

Okay.

Just like the majority of people in human history in general.

But anyway, sure, there were peasants that were looking like that.

Look, obviously, throughout the lower mindset, cathedrals and great buildings and armies and ships and trade and a government, you know?

Regardless of if you agree with the former government, there was actually some semblance of civilization, even if there were peasants.

Africa was all peasants and no civilization.

Would you like get up in front of like the UN and say that?

Like look like a retard in front of the world?

Like get laughed at by literally the entire world?

Like I you have to understand how profoundly stupid you sound right now.

You're claiming that African people never had any civilization.

That's what you're saying?

I don't pretty much.

I mean, again, they didn't have two-story buildings.

You dispute that, but that's a fact.

Before whites went to Africa, they literally didn't have a two-story building.

They didn't have the wheel.

And you can go back to the thing about the wheel, but it was essentially just tribes of people killing each other in mud huts.

That's just what it was.

Like, that's just the history.

Um what's your IQ?

I'm not sure, I haven't tested it.

Do you have you actually even read a book in your life?

Or like do you just like talk out of your ass and hopefully?

Yes, I've read books.

Can you name five books you've read?

No, not really.

You can't name five books you've read.

Do you want me to go to my bookshelf?

Just name five books you've read.

Believe it or not, I read um Dust Capital.

I read um

A couple of history books.

Okay, so not only have you not read five books, you can't even name five books.

And you claim that, listen, you have to understand what I'm dealing with.

Like, this is the average right-winger.

You're claiming Africans have never had any civilization or buildings or anything.

You're claiming that even though French people were acting the same way 300 years ago, that's enough of a enough time on the evolutionary time scale for a literal biological change.

You're trying to say that, like, you're trying to say that, well, you're clearly thinking, you think it's biological and inborn.

Well, 300 isn't enough.

If you look at 300 years ago, things change.

Civilization progresses through different standards and different practices.

Well, if people are the same people are the same biologically, how can that happen?

What do you mean?

I don't know.

There's different races of people.

There's different groups of people all over the world.

The point is.

All right.

Simon, Simon, black people.

Simon, people, people.

Simon, nobody cares about your opinion about black people, but what we do know is that your opinion is uninformed.

It's based on a lack of knowledge about basic history.

You're unable to understand the basic facts about Haiti's recent history.

Yet you make grand claims about it, such as the Haitian people are inherently incapable of doing anything without Western help, even though they've never literally been left alone for anyone to know that.

Um, I don't know what to tell you, dude.

Uh, yeah, I mean, my response would be: you look at what's happening right now in the streets in Haiti, they're literally cannibalizing each other.

This is something you don't see.

Look at that.

We killed their former prime minister and installed a fucking government.

No one wants to do it.

Do you think, do you think that if someone killed the president, that people would be eating in the streets?

We'd be eating each other in the streets in America in a first-world country.

And, you know, the next month, they would be eating each other.

You think the president gets killed, three years later, there's going to be no government.

There's no government in Haiti, and they're eating each other in the streets.

Simon, you think that's going to happen in the U.S., Simon?

What do I look like?

Of course, I don't think that.

I know it for a fact.

I know that's what would happen.

Of course, of course.

Because the president dies, and there's just going to be no government after in the U.S.

There's no constitutional government.

If our law and order breaks down, first world people are going to be Simon, if our law and order breaks down, we're not just going to eat each other.

We're going to do it.

Hasn't it already broken down in major cities where the police don't even pull people over now?

They don't even chase people.

It hasn't quite gotten together.

They're shooting us all the time.

I mean, there already is.

In major cities in the U.S., the cops don't even do anything.

Okay, well, you haven't seen a true breakdown of law and order, if that's your standard, because when it really does happen, we're not just going to be eating each other.

We're going to be mutilating our body parts and barbecuing each other in creative ways.

Yes, maybe, maybe worse case scenario.

Maybe if they know that people are doing mukbang on TikTok, eating people's genitals, and that's the type of crazy shit we're going to see.

I think that that proves my point even more.

The only way that would happen is if there were some sort of nuclear war where every single thing happened, that's the only way that would happen in the U.S.

or in any first world country.

And these people are doing it because the president got killed three years ago and they weren't able to create a government in since three years.

They weren't able to create a new government.

And now they're just eating each other.

That's the point I'm making.

That for a first world nation for them to devolve into that, you'd have to have like a nuclear war where literally everything is destroyed.

And that's just not true.

Simon, that's just not true.

It's very easy.

If there's a breakdown of law and order for a country that hasn't, that is unified by literally nothing anymore to break down into total anarchy and total chaos, Liberia style.

It's going to happen here.

And it's not just going to be black people and Mexicans doing it.

It's going to be white people doing it too.

And you're going to see that in your lifetime, I promise.

I don't think it's ever going to be that bad evening.

I think it's already happening.

I think it's already happening.

I think on Twitter.

Look at the most lawless areas in the U.S.

And it's all the homeless encampments.

It's all the drugs.

It's all this.

Simon, see how savage your own right-wing communities are to each other.

How so?

How so?

How much you guys?

Is Patrick Casey eating anyone?

Is Patrick Casey?

How much you guys swat and dox and uh try to kill each other.

I agree that I think swatting and doxing is horrible.

I think look, you guys Simon, people over the internet are literally trying to kill each other over their disagreement over ideas right now.

People are literally mocking and making fun of people getting killed just because they disagreed with them about their opinions and shit.

The sanctity of human life, there's no regard for it anymore whatsoever.

I agree.

I would agree.

It's completely gone.

So, yeah, I don't think we're very far away from just starting to eat each other, to be honest.

And yes, I do think Patrick Casey would eat someone if he could get away with it.

I actually do believe that.

Uh I I don't know about that.

Well, I I believe it.

Maybe you should debate him again.

Maybe you should debate him about this Haiti stuff.

Um

Maybe you should stop running cover for the Global Homo and just understand that you have a responsibility to speak out against U.S.

intervention in that country.

I completely agree.

I think the number one problem is the U.S.

government.

I have no doubt about that.

But the U.S.

government could be completely reformed and completely changed.

And the third world is still going to be the third world.

That's the point I'm making.

You're free to have that opinion, but until that opinion is backed up with serious action against the U.S.

imperialist hegemony, you're just running cover for U.S.

imperialism.

I wouldn't say that at all.

Okay, well, when Biden sends troops to Haiti and you're just saying, oh, it's their own.

I will completely oppose it.

I don't think we should involve Haiti at all.

I think we should put a blockade around and prevent them from coming to our airports and our country and let them have self-determination.

And if they kill each other or if they create a successful civilization, let them do it.

Let them have self-determination.

I completely agree.

I don't want to be able to do that.

It's very generous of you.

That's very generous you.

But concretely speaking, right now, the U.S.

builds consensus for its interventions in Haiti precisely by depicting them as subhuman, non-human savages.

I don't think the U.S.

And despite you claiming that you're against U.S.

intervention, you're effectively spreading interventionist propaganda with the bullshit you say about Haiti.

I mean, you could just be silent about it, right?

I mean, what really is the point of...

Well, why would I be silent about something that's happening in Haiti, which all of these Haitians are going to come to the U.S.

and you're going to see the same thing in the U.S.

from these people?

That's the point.

I'm looking at it from a non-interventionist perspective of let them do whatever the fuck they're doing over there.

Simon, Son.

Don't let them hear.

Simon, if you're here.

I don't care what happens to you, if you.

If you don't care about what happens in the third world, you should be a little more responsible about what your government's been doing there.

I disagree with the government completely.

You can that's very generous of you, but what have you done to stop them?

I don't know what have you done.

We are literally building online.

We are literally building the most cutting edge, dissident, counter hegemonic movement in the US.

And it's in the sense stages of development.

That's what I'm doing.

Well, I hope you're successful, and you know, maybe one day I will join when there's a party or a movement.

I agree with you on many things.

I like the show.

I just think that.

There's this sort of a general uh

I don't know what you'd call it.

I mean, it's sort of a denial of reality, what you're seeing in a lot of these places where it's just total chaos.

It's not some sort of socialist revolution in action, or it's not going to lead to some sort of civilization.

Listen.

It doesn't need to lead to anything.

It doesn't need to lead to anything.

All that matters.

is

How

Our government's meddling there has sustained the hegemony here.

It doesn't matter what happens to Haiti, that's up to the Haitian people, that's their business.

I I agree.

But then when you say, when you insist upon

Uh Hades Future.

What you're really doing is spreading interventionist propaganda, whether you like it or not.

I don't think I'm insisting on their future.

I don't have whatever future they want.

Yeah, it's very generous.

It's very generous of you to say that.

I don't control the U.S.

government.

All I can say is that let Haiti have its own self-determination.

I don't want these Haitians in the U.S.

I don't want the U.S.

meddling in Haiti's politics.

That's all I'm saying.

That's very general.

You keep saying that's generous.

It's very generous.

But again, that's the point.

I think we're both in agreement.

We don't want the U.S.

meddling there, and we want the Haitians to figure it out themselves if they can, if they're able to.

So I made a tweet saying that.

Non-Western peoples should not be scared of being called totalitarian or authoritarian, uh and they should actually take control of their countries because when you listen to Western liberal lies, uh you can end up like Haiti.

And I made that tweet, and your right-wing community came and ratioed me and all this kind of stuff, and tries to shut me down.

And you're here in my VC now.

So who really has the problem?

You know, you didn't you're not even quite like, how did we get here?

We got here because I made a tweet talking about US meddling in Haiti and how it's contributed to this.

Just to raise awareness about it.

Yeah, my disagreement would be I think that regardless of the U.S.

I'm not I'm not here to defend it.

I'm saying that's a problem with what I said.

'Cause I I think you're you don't acknowledge that regardless of why do I need to acknowledge it though why do I need to acknowledge that?

Isn't that just acknowledging reality?

Isn't that just acknowledging what no, it's not.

It's not acknowledging reality.

It's not even true.

But what's the practical consequences of acknowledging that?

I think it's been realistic because once out when the U.S.

pulls out of Haiti, the U.S.

is not involved with Haiti anymore.

I think you have to be realistic and know that Haiti is not going to magically become better.

It's not my business.

It's not my business what happens to Haiti.

By the way, what is the practical consequence of your racialist posturing?

Pro-interventionism.

That's all it is.

I think it's the opposite.

I think it's saying like I made an anti-interventionist tweet and your right-wing butt buddies got butthurt by it.

So clearly you have a problem with it.

I don't know if I put it that way, but let me just ask you one thing.

I saw Bukele, hopefully, I pronounced his name right.

He's saying he wants to go into Haiti with the UN, and as long as they cover the costs, what do you think of that?

Or do you think Buquerre is a good leader?

Do you think he's cleaned up El Salvador?

Do you think he's done a good job?

I think he's done a good job in El Salvador.

I don't think he has any business in Haiti.

I I would completely agree.

I just saw that.

I wanted your opinion.

But yeah, I think let's just summarize what this is.

Because I refuse to acknowledge the inferiority of black people.

This is some this that that that this means that um U S interventionism is justified.

That's really what this comes down to.

I don't think US intervention is justified at all.

The point I was making is that you can't look at everything and blame the West for all the problems in the world.

I think that the world is fucked up regardless of the West.

That's the only point I'm making.

There's a lot of leftists to try to.

Okay, Russia and China have been trying to upset that Western world order, and they've been dealing with a lot of shit for it.

North Korea, Cuba, they've all been gotten a lot of shit for it.

I agree.

I'm so sorry.

So your speculation is stupid.

Your speculation is stupid and meaningless.

You can speculate about how a world freed from the grips of Western colonialism would look like, but your speculation is cheap and worthless when the only few countries that are trying to overthrow the weight of the so-called white man's burden.

Have to move mountains to do it.

Okay, it's that hard to do it.

So, you're words making it seem like you know, oh, we're just helping all these countries, we're helping them, we're doing charity.

And it's like, no, there's a brutal unipolar system dominating the world that people are moving mountains to try to throw off their backs.

And meanwhile, you're saying, Well, even if they do succeed, there's still going to be shitholes.

Well, let me look at it.

What does your opinion matter?

What does it matter?

Do you think that China is doing what it's doing because they just want to do charity, or do you think China has its own goals, has its own reasons?

China believes is China doing what it's doing in Africa, building all these bridges and doing all this trade and doing all these things because it wants to free Africa or do you think China has its own goals in mind?

I was actually going to answer you, but like continue talking.

No, no, go ahead.

Go ahead.

China has a win-win foreign policy orientation.

They very concretely lay down, here's our interests.

Let's work with you.

What are your interests?

You scratch my back, I scratch yours.

That's their whole outlook.

They don't believe that.

But aren't they taking over the minerals and the natural resources for themselves?

Isn't that part of the deals they're making?

No.

We'll build you bridges and then we're going to basically take over your ports and take over these resources and government.

No, the deals are good.

They're giving them good deals.

So none of the deals that China is making in Africa are in any way exploitative.

No, they're not.

All the deals the West are making are exploitative.

They just are by definition.

Yes, literally, yes.

This is where I disagree.

I think this is a very simplistic way to view it.

This is more simple.

Because here's why it's not exploitative.

Because China doesn't interfere in the political sovereignty of African countries.

It takes the deals that it can.

China isn't the one that destroyed African agriculture to take advantage of those countries.

China doesn't use hybrid economic and political means to meddle in their affairs.

China deals with whoever the government is there.

Who else are they going to deal with?

And they get a deal that they consider fair, that they can.

And if that deal is not fair to Africans, they can blame their government, not China.

But China had no part in installing that government.

China had no part in making that corrupt government in power.

That's the West's doing.

So the West actually overthrows governments in Africa, uses NGOs to influence policy and create regime change and color revolutions.

China doesn't do any of that.

So no, China isn't exploiting anyone.

China is just dealing with whatever governments are there that it had no responsibility for installing.

Well, you asked me like a percentage question.

So 100% of the deals that China's making in Africa, 100%, it's just, you know, this is going to help us.

This is going to help you.

It's not exploitative.

It's not, hey, let's make this deal to benefit us.

It's obviously wants to benefit themselves, but they respect the sovereignty of those countries.

They're not installing governments in those countries.

I think you're mistaken because they're building a lot of this infrastructure and they're running large areas.

They're essentially running it themselves.

Because they arrived at a deal with the countries in the first place.

They didn't coup their government and overthrow their government and then force their will on them.

But do you think do you think any of these deals are shady or any of these deals?

Well, I mean, you make a deal with it with a country that's struggling, with a country that can't really support itself, and you say, Hey, let us build your infrastructure and in return we're going to like have your resources and basically have control over large areas of your country.

That's a lot of the deals that China's making.

That the control, how?

I mean, you're saying that China gets access to Africa's resources in return for infrastructure.

Yeah, there's a lot of cases of that.

But there's nothing wrong with that if China isn't the one intervening in their sovereignty.

That's on the governments that exist there.

It's not on China.

But that's not how the West plays ball.

You need to understand that.

What the West will do.

Is ensure that the government that's there is already favorable to them and then make an unfair deal.

China doesn't intervene in the political affairs of any country.

So whatever government is there doing these deals with China, China's not responsible for because they had no part in in seeing that government come to power in the first place.

Well, I I do see I do see what you're saying, but aren't they sort of they're looking at these governments and they're making these deals just because they're not cooing the existing government doesn't mean that they're not making an exploding deal potentially.

No, it does mean they're not making an exploitative deal.

Yeah, I I I disagree with that.

Like, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

these sovereign countries to to make deals that I mean, no, China's gonna part of the deals is them basically giving up their sovereignty.

No, there's a very name a single name a single case of that.

There's no such case of them giving up their sovereignty.

I disagree.

I think that's a good question.

I think your view, it's pointing out that the West does evil, the West is always evil, and China basically does no wrong.

Look, I'm pro-China.

Trust me.

I hate the U.S.

government.

I'm pro-China.

But I'm not going to deny that China doesn't do shady shit and doesn't have their own interests at heart.

But you just spoiled other deals.

You just can't name any shady shit.

Well, I don't think saying that you're going to build a bridge means that you get to have like half the resources of a country.

Those are the kinds of deals that China's made.

Okay, name one deal that's like that.

I I'd have to look up a specific deal.

Just like if you brought up an A thing, I'd have to look up a specific deal.

According to which China owns half a country's resources in exchange for a bridge.

I'd have to look into it more.

I think I think you're denying that.

Really?

You should start with Michael Parenti.

I am familiar with him.

I've seen a couple of his speeches.

I'm actually familiar with him, believe it or not.

Okay.

So, look, man, I watch your show.

Believe it or not, like, I get you think I'm like a you know Nazi racist or whatever, but I watch your show.

I find it very interesting.

I just think that's sometimes it's a bit too out there with some of this third worldism stuff.

And I know you don't like that term and deny that term.

That's not all I'm saying.

I agree with you that try to.

It's not third worldism.

It's the belief that black people are also human.

I think they're human.

I think everyone's a human being.

No, you don't.

You think black people are inferior, and that's the whole thing.

All this comes down to you insisting upon the inferiority of black people.

That's what all this comes down to.

And I wish you would just admit it.

I don't think every human being is equal.

I think everyone's a human being, though.

Not everyone is the same intelligence and the same writing or good at reading.

Simon, I want to entertain this.

Define intelligence.

What do you mean?

Like what the official uh dictionary definition, what do you mean by intelligence?

What is intelligence?

Because you just use that word.

What does it mean to you?

Probably the ability to learn new information.

The ability to maintain and learn new information, I'd say.

I don't know if that's the official um I think I intelligence quotient.

I think that's what it's defined as great, great.

If intelligence is defined by the ability to learn new information,

We have a few things to sort out.

First of all, you're not very intelligent.

You were exposed to a lot of information.

In our in this conversation alone, you weren't able to learn it.

Okay.

But second of all, and more importantly, how do you know the intelligence level of other races when, for example, they don't have access to education?

How do you even know if they're able to learn?

IQ tests are pretty universal and then you can look at the history, you can look at how developed they are.

Simon, I don't think you understand what an IQ test is, and I'm happy to explain to you what it is, but answer my question.

If intelligence is defined by the ability to learn new information, how can you judge the intelligence of groups that don't have access to information in the first place to learn?

I think you can also look at development.

Like different places are developed.

Can you give me a clear definition of intelligence then?

You'd have to give me a clear definition of intelligence because then we can actually have a conversation.

Sure.

Read Reza Ngaristani's intelligence and spirit.

And my definition is in there.

But anyway, I'm trying to ask you what intelligence is, because I don't think you know what that word means.

I think you're just vaguely associating it with the level of human ability overall.

And you're basically saying...

I think that has to do with intelligence.

I think you look at it.

When you say intelligence, you mean like more human or less human.

Less intelligent is less human.

More intelligent is more human.

That's what you mean.

I wouldn't say that I'd say more advanced.

I'd say more advanced.

Right, right.

Like more technology.

That's all it comes down to, really.

I guess.

Right.

I mean, look, IQ, I guess you'd like to deny that IQ tests are like a thing, or you deny them a little bit.

You kind of understand why Americans worship Steve Jobs as like a pharaoh.

Because when you're such a retarded, dumbed-down, undereducated population and you don't understand how anything works, when you're not.

I don't worship Steve Jobs.

When you get the latest iPhone every year, that's like God Himself sending upon.

Oh my God, this is intelligence.

This is advancement.

Oh my God.

It's literally like a cargo cult.

You're looking at the old storm iPhone versus literally not having a lot of people.

You're looking at the advance.

You're looking at the rather predictable advances in Moore's Law and all this kind of stuff.

These dazzling and marvelous new technologies being rolled out, you know, like on a yearly basis.

And this notion of advance and progress and technology, like for you, this is like the essence of what man and humanity is.

This is what a narrow, ridiculous, consumerist understanding of it you have is.

It's like technology is just like human advancement, intelligence is just like when the line goes up.

And it's like, it's such a curious problem because for human history as we know it, the line was pretty stable in one direction.

And then within a very, very small short period of time, it just goes up randomly, like exponentially, suddenly.

Right?

But you don't think you somehow think it's like that thing of man walking upright from ape, that Darwinist illustration, and then along the way, all the advances in progress with it.

That's not but that's not true at all.

The whole paradigm of technological progress.

Began with the steam engine.

And before that, there was no such paradigm.

Technology has advanced exponentially over short-term.

Technology didn't even exist as a paradigm of civilization before the steam engine, before the industry.

There were buildings, there was the ability to methods of production, but that was not, that never acquired the status of abstraction called technology.

No, I'm not saying that.

I'm not saying technology is the end-all-be-all.

No, I just don't think you understand any of the things you're talking about.

I think you're trying to associate a vague notion of the latest iPhone coming out with the essence of what it has to be using.

The way you're talking about technology and stuff, have you read Nick Land?

Are you familiar with Nick Land?

Yes.

Are you against him?

It seems like you'd be very anti-Nick Land then if you're against this technology.

Something you're what you just said is it's sort of interesting.

Simon, you don't have a very intelligent takeaway of what I'm trying to say here.

I'm not against technology.

I'm just asking, are you familiar with Nick Land?

Like, what do you think?

Are you a fan of television?

Simon, the latest.

I don't think you know what technology is.

I'm not against technology.

I don't think you know what you're talking about when you talk about intelligence.

I sort of see what you're the one that went with, you think intelligence is like iPhones and shit like that.

No, I think that's what I'm saying at all.

You went on this rant.

I think that's what you think intelligence is.

That's not what I think intelligence is.

That's not what I think, though.

That's not what I said.

You just went on this rant.

That's not what I said.

I don't think intelligence is.

I don't think Steve Jobs is the, you know, I think you see him as like a god-king pharaoh who's like he's the king of white people along with Bill Gates.

And then like black people are at the bottom.

I don't like Bill Gates either.

I don't like Steve Jobs.

I think you think like the guy who like Bill Gates and Steve Jobs are like the pinnacle white people and of technological Brahmins.

Actually Indians.

I don't know.

I never said that.

And then black people are at the bottom.

And then black people are at the bottom because they don't have enough shiny technology.

And that's pretty much.

I'm hanging any of that.

You're the one going on this rant.

I never said any of that.

But then what is intelligence then?

Can you define it?

As I said, I think it's the ability to learn.

I think it's the ability to do that.

It's not the ability to learn because we established that would be an inadequate description of how you're applying it.

Because we don't know anyone's ability to learn based on IQ tests.

That's not an ability to learn.

That's an ability to take an IQ test.

Take a standardized test.

It means nothing.

But it it it doesn't even it doesn't even um

It's not even a reliable proxy for how much fucking money you make.

That's how pathetic it is.

Is making money a sign of intelligence?

Are you saying that if you're presuming?

I would presume if there is an objective thing called intelligence that's inborn, like how smart you fucking are, then yeah, it would probably correlate with your ability to make money.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure.

I'm intelligent people that have money.

There are people that come from families that have money.

Okay, that's not what I said, though.

I said the ability to make money, not have money.

I don't think the ability to make money makes you intelligent.

I think you have to be.

There are scammers.

There are people that...

So are you saying that if I went in and robbed a bank and I came out with $3,000?

There's no correlation.

The problem is that there's literally no correlation at all.

Don't you think there should be at least some correlation?

There's literally none.

It only could I Q only controls literally for the mentally disabled, nothing else.

I would agree.

I think that obviously you give someone a test.

Physical disabilities and nothing else.

Physical.

What about mental?

Wouldn't it be mental?

It's but I'm talking about people literally born with like an extra chromosome or an extreme neurological disorder.

That's what it controls for: extreme outliers.

It doesn't control for any broad tendencies in the population, except your ability to be a pencil pusher.

Uh, who isn't making a lot of money but gets a salary appointed within the corporate uh institution.

Because all IQ measures for really is your willingness to take standardized tests and nothing else.

And also, the reason the test is literally something you can wipe your fucking ass with.

is because you can do better on it next it's gamable.

You can game an IQ Q test and literally master the fuck out of it by doing it multiple times.

That's why it's a fraudulent, worthless,

It's not a metric of anything, let alone intelligence, because it's gamable.

There's no I you can say that, I think you can say that.

If I take an IQ test and I get 100 and then I game it and then I get 200, did I did my intelligence increase by 100 points?

No.

So it's fucking meaningless.

You can say that, but IQ tests sort of do they do correlate with what you'd expect.

Like you look at Asians score the highest on IQ.

I think most people would agree, Asians in general are going by groups because that's how the IQ Asians are the best at taking tests because they're the most focused on educate.

Everyone knows that they're the most focused ones.

So IQ, IQ only accounts for tests.

So by that definition, then blacks are the worst at taking tests.

That's all it says.

When the blacks are the lowest IQs, that just means they're bad at taking tests.

Maybe it maybe it also means that black people are not as assimilated in our institutions in general.

I mean in America blacks have been here four hundred years, they've been here just as long as whites.

Why wouldn't they be assimilated?

Please read a fucking book.

I didn't say how long they've been on the land.

I said they're not as assimilated in the institutions.

You know, there's a difference.

Like, institution means like a specific standardized way of organizing people.

Well, this is this is the this is the living on the land.

This is the argument that the left makes.

They say that while there are certain questions in IQ tests that deal more with class, that you know, if you're like a poorer person, you're not going to understand Simon.

Black people?

Have not assimilated

into the US's educational si institutions.

They haven't.

I mean, you look at I mean, you look at spending, you look at spending per student.

I mean, there are schools in, you know, like I think Baltimore, Chicago, wherever, they'll give them iPads.

They'll throw, you know, $300,000 a year per student.

They're throwing all the resources at them, and they're not succeeding.

They're not doing any better.

Do you think a people's ability to be institutionalized is based on how much money you throw at it?

Or maybe do you think it's based on I think that if you look at education, if you're going to a better school, if you're going to, if you're getting more funding to your school, if you're getting all of these resources, I think that could help you, obviously.

If you're going to school in the middle of nowhere where they don't even have fucking pencil and paper, then obviously you're probably not going to get as good of an education.

Dude!

Oh my god!

You should give a TED talk on this.

And what's the point you're making?

Yeah, the point I'm making is that if you don't have any stake in the system and if you're literally not part of it, if you're not part of the system in any kind of way, you can't be institutionalized by it because because you have no stake in it, because it's always a social contract that goes two ways.

There's no way for you to regard the educational systems as a vehicle for your own advancement.

There's no way for you to regard the institutions of the countries as yours to take advantage of.

You rather see them as just an imposing presence intruding upon your ability to make a living, but not something that's yours.

So that's the problem that black people have had in America.

And you're talking about, oh, what about an administrative?

How are they not part of any institution?

You have to explain that.

What do you mean by that?

Because the premise, there's two ways in which Americans assimilate into the system, right?

One of the ways is having historical ties to the land in the form of land ownership.

The final culmination of that was the housing reforms after the post-war period, which gave it to the Ellis Island immigrants who could finally have a piece of the land with housing reforms, affordable housing.

Black people were excluded from it, by the way.

And the second form is immigrants who already come from strong familial and kinship networks who immigrate here using the capital raised and conserved by these networks as a basis to build off of and make a living.

These immigrant groups tend to be less loyal to the state, but more willing to kind of career climb through it.

A good example of this are Brahmins coming from India.

They're not necessarily extremely indigenized.

They're not like very Americanized, but they're more than happy to take advantage of the system using these kinship networks that they bring from overseas.

It's also true for a lot of Asian immigrants and Middle Eastern immigrants as well.

So, this is generally how people become part of the system in the USA.

They have to begin from some kind of excess capital of some kind, right?

Usually through kinship relations, through owning land either in the U.S.

or overseas, which serves as the basis of kind of going through the system.

Now, black people also do this, and they're Nigerians, Nigerian immigrants, top graduates in the U.S.

in a lot of cases.

They're very educated immigrants in the U.S.

And they're black.

They're actually blacker than African Americans, if you want to look at it in terms of their racial admixture or whatever.

I see what you're saying.

So, that's a universal phenomenon.

But when you don't have any starting capital at all to begin with, there's a reason 40 acres and a mule were promised to emancipated slaves because Lincoln understood.

We emancipate the slaves and they literally have nothing to build off of.

That's not getting rid of slavery.

That's creating a surplus population of people who are just.

Just going to have nothing and either enter into vagrancy or complete declarations of dependence on others, and it's going to be a problem.

They're not going to have anything of their own that they own themselves.

So, in the history of the U.S., there was an institutional exclusion of black people because after their emancipation from slavery, they literally had nothing that tied them in, that gave them a stake to buy into the system.

So, that's why you have these huge disparities, more or less.

Okay.

There's more to it and all this other kind of stuff, but more or less, that's basically why, because they never actually had a stake in the system.

Now, when people talk about Africa, it's a completely African countries are a completely separate case.

Those countries lack sovereign statehood.

They lack their own institutions to begin with.

They lack education on a mass scale.

They lack mass popular education in many cases.

If you bring IQ tests to people who don't even have schools, I don't know why you would think that would yield a meaningful result at all.

It wouldn't.

I see what you're saying.

I would push back the Nigerian immigrants, for example.

Those are like the best and brightest from Nigeria coming to the U.S.

And I see what you're saying.

All that stuff, I actually understand what you're saying.

But I would say that you can say that, but why haven't, for example, why hasn't Africa, why can't they build their own schools?

Why can't they just build their own schools?

Because they don't even own their own land.

You need to own your own soil before you could do anything.

And that's why we support the EFF in South Africa because they just want to own their own.

Yeah, that's that's this is actually you know, that's actually the EFF thing, the South Africa thing.

I just don't get that.

I don't get the focus on that.

Um, okay.

I don't know if you want to keep going.

We could, I love the Simon, I'm gonna come back on again.

We've been talking for two hours, and I'm wearing a suit, and it's kind of stupid, all right?

Yeah, no, yeah.

Yeah, look, this is actually a very interesting conversation.

I'm going to definitely look into this stuff.

And I enjoyed it.

And even if we disagree, thanks for having me on.

Okay.

I actually, that last thing you said was very interesting.

Okay, sure.

Bye.

All right.

See you.

Yeah.

Alright.

Ah, this is crazy.

Also, in the 1800s, Kumasi, capital of the Ashanti Empire, had more two-story buildings than London, Europe's largest city at the time.

So there you go.

They've never had two-story buildings.

I literally had someone just right now, I wasn't even checking the Discord.

Uh yeah, so that's that.

Anyway, the lesson of this is right wingers really hate black people a lot.

Jesus, what's going on, man?

How's it going?

And uh I guess the conclusion we should draw from that is uh

Not sure if there is one.

But uh

We should keep fighting the good fight, actually.

To be honest.

Guys, I don't know how much this is in vain.

But let's boost the fuck out of this.

Because not enough people are retweeting this.

Everyone should retweet it.

Literally, everyone.

Boost the fuck out of this.

Uh not sure how much we could do.

But if we get this to our core audience,

You know?

on Twitter we should blow this up this tweet should be blown up all right

Um every single person should retweet it.

to spread it 'cause if we get it spread far enough, it'll blow up by itself.

Because uh yeah, this is like total fucking stupid bullshit.

Everyone needs to retweet the fuck out of this.

There's obviously more right-wingers on Twitter than us, but there's also more third-worlders on Twitter than right-wingers.

Okay, we need this to blow the fuck up, all right?

Because uh

Spread it everywhere, literally everywhere.

Keep fighting the good fight.

Okay?

Let's see if we could do it.

I'll link it again.

Anyway guys, we're gonna sign off.

It's been a great

It's been a great stream.

Uh

Getting naturally ratioed.

No, I'm not.

They're spreading it in their group chats and we don't we don't have the same level of solidarity they do with each other.

I'm not even in any group chats myself.

Arozmaz, what's going on?

So we're just gonna we're just gonna spread it ourselves.

And we we may fail, but it's all right.

Uh because we want to raise awareness most of all.

That's the most important thing.

That's why I'm doing this stream.

To educate.

In any case,

I'll see you guys.

And happy Ramadan, Ramadan Mubarak.

Anyway.

Anything else I wanted to say?

Haven't seen Dune 2 yet.

Soon as I do, I'll do a

Review of it.

I do have a book to finish, guys.

See you later.

Bye-bye.