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As you can see, I am wearing a suit and I will be for the foreseeable future.
For the future of every stream in the future, that's what's going to be the norm.
Yeah, the days of scruffy haze are... The norm
Yeah, the days of scruffy haze are over what's going on loatie. How are you?
How's it going?
I did just have dinner guys, but I'm still hungry and we're going to be eating some right wingers for dessert tonight eating them alive literally as in cannibalism
taking them butchering them them, and then feasting upon their flesh.
Of course, I mean this.
Unfortunately, I mean this metaphorically.
Although they deserve worse. I think so.
And jokes aside, I think there's actually, it's not without justification the sentiment I'm talking about.
Well, what's going on?
I think it's not without justification. I'm talking about, well, oh, what's going on?
I think it's not without justification.
I mentioned in the previous stream that the Western right wing is just not very relevant anymore,
concretely speaking. They fumbled the bag, so to speak, in 2016,
even on their own, by their own metrics. They are pathetic. They are a whimpering, wet fart
on its way out
Sad, pathetic
dying, decaying,
lacking vitality,
lacking the so-called meme magic that they so preciously covet now
and they're coping memes about how we're so back, we're so back, you're not back,
you're not back, it never even began for you. Your little adventure.
The little fun that you had in 2016, it will never come back. At least for your generation.
You are just like Patrick Casey, defeated, wandering, waiting for it to be back, it'll never
be back, you sad, pathetic maggots.
Anyway, there's no need for things to get personal.
It's never personal.
It's just history.
The right wing is dead.
And they will never be relevant again.
Meanwhile, we have basically overtaken them in all but raw clout. In terms of the presence we've exerted
upon Western consciousness, we are the cutting edge, we are the latest and
greatest. They are the past and we are the future. They have no equivalent to George Galloway.
They're all betting that a Trump victory this year is somehow going to restore vigor to their failed ideology, their failed zeitgeist.
It won't. That muchgeist, it won't.
That much is certain, it won't.
Already former liberals are lining up to co-opt Trump's legacy entirely.
People are simply sick of Biden.
Trump isn't really a right-wing thing anymore.
It's not really a province of the so-called alt-right.
Trump has become an ambiguously populist figure in the United States,
which definitely cuts across party lines
now. Gala drinker what's going on cuts across racial lines. It's not really a
right-wing thing anymore and if it and the worst- scenario, Trump will the elected president and completely
fall on line doing the bidding of the imperialist hegemony, of the Zionist lobby and
so on and so forth.
The right wing doesn't benefit from that, at least in terms of its overt ideological commitments,
which we all know the right wing has always had a tenuous relationship to, anyway.
Are you following me or am I speaking too professionally and too elegantly and nicely for your
retarded little brains to understand?
Ones if you're fucking following me here and you're completely on the same page with what I'm saying.
Great. Do I need to swear more? I'm trying to stop swearing as much as I used to.
I'm trying to clean up my act just a little bit.
I know I come off as fake, but guess what? There's no way to be real without
sharing the fate of Tupac Shakur and Malcolm X and just getting shot down off the damn stage.
Excuse my French. Everyone, it's a great Sunday night to talk about Haiti, but before we do it, we're going
to need to discuss this business of the right wing.
And they're renewed significance, if you can believe it, they do have a renewed significance. So, we've already established, everyone can see it.
The right wing is dead.
They're no longer the zeitgeist.
We've overtaken them.
We've slam dunked over them, so to speak.
Now they're on the floor writhing, seething and coping at our rise.
Well, it would be enough to beat a dead horse.
But the right wing is actually finding ways
to resurrect itself, to resuscate,
if I'm pronouncing that correctly, its existence,
to save any, to grasp at any relevance that it can.
What is it doing?
Well, it's doing what the right wing, what you would expect it to do.
So dishonorably, violating its own self-proclaimed principles by just hoaring and prostituting itself out to the same global homo hegemony,
it basically established itself on the basis of opposing. The so-called Jewish global homo hegemony the right wing is readily prostituting itself
in the service of.
The only renewed significance of the right wing in 2024 is running apologetics for imperialism,
it's acquiring newfound vigor and relevance and life and vitality
in justifying the existing hegemony
that it claimed to oppose in the past,
but obviously
through an ideologically right-wing lens.
NATO is white.
Therefore, NATO is good.
The United States imperialists are mainly white, although I could have sworn they were Jewish yesterday, but I guess Jews are right now.
I'm not sure what's going on, but the US hegemony is white and Haitians are black.
Therefore, US imperialism is good and U.S.'s interventions in Haiti are good, because
Haitians are black and black people are bad.
If you can believe it, this is the cutting edge of right-wing ideology right now.
Renting out their bootyhole, so to speak, to the Jeffrey Epstein Petras,
it would be probably more to their favor if they weren't hairy, disgusting, 40-year-old
quartering neckbeards.
But they'll make do with what they can, of course, and the Epstein's, the homosexuals that govern us and rule us, are happy to just
take what they can as well.
And this is the arrangement that it's come to.
The right wing is completely offering itself to the global homohegemony,
all in the name of racial resentments
that they harbor toward black people.
I find it interesting, it's oftentimes that they call us
anti-white.
They say that we're against white people because we oppose Western imperialism and hegemony.
Well, we're not anti-white. If you call us anti-white, we're Maga communists. it doesn't make any sense. It's self-evidently
absurd.
What's really going on is they're just anti-black.
They just hate black people.
I mean, how else do you put it? They just hate black people. They just hate black people. I mean, how else do you put it?
They just hate black people.
They just hate black people.
What else is there to say?
We're not anti-white.
You, right-wingers, are anti-black.
And it would be so nice if you could just admit that.
For some reason you can't.
And even when you do admit it, you do it behind an anime profile picture.
And before you claim that it's because you're scared of getting fired or you're scared of
the repercussions in real
life. Patrick Casey is known as a white nationalist. He's known as a neo-Nazi.
I could not get him to admit it. Over the course of what two hours debating him?
He wouldn't admit it. Because why? Because he's a coward. Because you're cowards. Because you wouldn't admit it because why because he's a coward
because you're cowards because you can't say it with your chest because you know
it's shameful it's uncivilized and it's wrong even you can't say it because
that's how ashamed you are deep down of such a ridiculous, stupid,
anti-human position. It's an ideology of, as leftists like to say, deeply unserious people. You claim that you want to seize
power, take power of the United States. Could you seriously envisage a world in which you
could possibly, these people, these lump-in-eyes, degenerates could
possibly coexist with a world that is 90% non-European?
I mean, how could you do diplomacy?
How could you just sit at a table with others?
How could you have a foreign policy? You couldn't. You want
to go the way of Hitler and declare war on the entire world? You will go the way of Hitler.
He will share his fate. And you glorify him today because I guess he's a romantic, quixotic rebel who in vain tried to go
to war against the world and failed but you still admire him anyway because it
reminds you of your your own I don't know, your own in-sell resentments against the world, you can't get bitches,
whatever.
It's fine.
It's fine.
But you're not serious, you're not a serious political arrival. You're not a serious political contender.
Your maggots fit only for being crushed under our boots.
Simple as that.
It's simple as that, really.
Well, in the present case, we have something rather interesting going on.
Haiti!
Now the narrative I'm getting from Twitter is actually incredible.
The narrative I'm getting from social media is that Haiti is a country which Europeans just
gave them so many nice and free things.
We built them infrastructure.
We built, and I love the word we,
it's my favorite when they use we.
As if this internet degenerate,
lump in low life, subhuman trash can lay claim to the power of the ruling class.
These neats sitting in their mother's basement, laying claim to the glorious exploits of the American and Western aristocracies which
they're nowhere near close to in any form whatsoever.
But it's it's uh it's endearing at least to a certain
extent I guess that they that they're larping in this way I mean think about it
literal social scum in the actual real sense of the word,
somehow think they have some kind of class solidarity with the imperialist ruling class.
It's pathetic is what it is.
But anyway, the story goes like this. Apparently white people, all white people, I guess,
including people who live in trailer parks. We're just kind of giving Haitians everything for free. I mean Haiti was just
it was just out of their beneficence, their charity, right? And then Haitians
just they just didn't they just because they're black and apparently black
people are subhuman it just they couldn't make anything of it and now
Haitians are eating each other.
We could never imagine that.
We could never imagine a warlord era of total chaos and anarchy in the United States. It just won't happen here.
Ever. Wait five years. Anyway, yeah, so that's what that's the story they're
going with. I mean is story they're going with.
I mean, is it true? No.
Is there a grain of truth to it?
No.
But I guess rhetorically, it sounds like something
they would want to be true, therefore,
they are propagating this cope. What else do you call it? What do you call a thing that's just not true, but you want it to be true, but it's not true? So what do you call that? I think we call that cope.
It's not true. The truth call that? I think we call that cope. It's not true.
The truth is that Haiti, there has never been a single month that has gone by
without the United States fundamentally meddling in and interfering in the sovereign affairs of the Haitian people.
Probably not even a day goes by, actually, to be more accurate.
The timeline as far as recent events goes back a long, long way. Long, long way way ever since the Haitians acquired independence in the
based slave revolt which the uh... white supremacists are still but hurt about to
this day
for some reason i mean guys it was like
200 years ago or something right can't you just get over it can't you just get
over the fact that the Haitians rose up and killed all of those slave owners I
mean it was 200 years ago he seemed
pretty upset about it. Actually the ruling class in the West never got over it.
From the very outset they made sure that Haiti would be punished
that it would serve as an example
to the entire colonized world the non-western world that anyone who does
anything similar to this
will not
will not experience a good outcome what's going on Australia, Danny, how are you going?
That's exactly what happened.
That's exactly what happened. Haiti, since that slave revolt has been punished by the colonial West in one form or another
To make sure that they could never ever be an example of a prosperous country which
Has its origins as a successful Spartacus-like slave uprising.
Just like I was talking to my friend Q earlier today and he gave me this apt example.
Just like Spartacus, they had to crucify them as an example to the other slaves,
colonized. But that's just a vague generality. To be more specific, the U.S. in particular has basically colonized the entirety of Haiti,
turned it into a complete neocolony for over a hundred years now.
Particularly in the first form as a form of kind of neo-colonial, or I should
rather say imperialist extractivism, where they just basically extract and loot all of
Haiti's resources while more or less mobilizing its local population to the status of semi-slave,
basically slaves, in order to procure these resources for U.S. companies.
Thank you so much, Stalin, Barry O'ia Gulag. What's going on? That's more or less what
happened. In the outset, right? More recently, Haiti has been the subject of degrowth policies and debt slavery.
So the broad picture we can paint, and I'm not an expert on Haitian history from the
60s to the 90s, but I could say since the neoliberal era, the primary goal of
US foreign policy in Haiti has been to devastate their local agricultural economy.
Haiti for a long time, despite being under the boot of Western imperialism, savagely reduced to an extractivistic
colony where they just take resources and leave everyone to fend for themselves and squalor while looting their wealth.
And by the way, the way that they do this is of course making sure that there's no sovereign
government in Haiti.
That's the thing, the U.S. has never allowed for not only a sovereign government to
exist in Haiti, but not even a politician
to rise through Haiti's already compromised state political system, who minimally kind
of has maybe some ideas of social reform,
a little bit, little bit, not too much, not too crazy,
just a little bit maybe challenging the extremely brutal neoliberal policies.
Ah, you're assassinated too bad.
That's what happened in recent decades in Haiti.
Literally the US assassinated.
Haitian leaders critical of neoliberal orientation. I mean, this is since the Cold War. We backed their
brutal, savage dictator, which is named Papa Doc. And why did we do this? Did we do this?
Because we're just trying to like help Haiti because because
we're just so liberal and leftist we just love helping Haiti out of the
beneficence of our heart does anyone by the way why it why right wingers they
feign this pretends to being cold realists but somehow the cynicism flies out the window when it comes to U.S.
imperialism. No, no, imperialism is just when liberals are just like trying to help black
people in vain or something, right? No, the truth is we made sure that Haiti had
no sovereign government, was completely subordinate to U.S. interests. One, to prevent
another Cuba from emerging in the Caribbean.
Two, to make sure that we could continue to plunder Haiti's resources.
Finally, three, so we could use Haiti as a source of, as an instrument for speculative finance. So we
could use it as a money laundering scheme alongside the other islands of the
Caribbean we do the same with. If you don't know about the significance of the
Caribbean for global
capitalism, you're probably living under a rock. I'm sure you prefer as a right winger,
maybe you just prefer to complain about black people on the subway, but this is how the global system
we live in works.
Money is laundered through offshore banks in the Caribbean in order to finance the
drug trade, arms trafficking, and to basically enforce the global hegemony by extrajudicial and extra legal and extra sovereign means
most of the world's economy is concentrated and funneled through these networks.
Haiti is also part of that puzzle as well.
I could go on and on and on. Hades gold was looted by France
completely taken from them. To this day with the not just backing but
Because of the will of the United States
Hades government has been implementing a process of land enclosure where they're basically stealing land from Haitian peasants to give to international
and multinational corporations, either to utilize for purposes of degrowth, devastating
Haiti's local agriculture, so that it can't compete with the US's monopoly or for purposes
of extracting resources.
As in the case of the recent building of a sativa, Stevia, sorry not sativa, Stevia,
processing plant for the Coca-Cola Corporation.
In any case, Haiti is a neocolony.
The idea that we aren't intervening there
or meddling in their affairs and that we just left them alone
and this is the result of that is a lie.
I don't think right wingers believe in God.
So I don't think they believe anyone or anything will ever hold them to account as far as their
lies are concerned, but I'd like to put a statement out there.
We are here to stay.
We, communists, yes, with the capital C, call us what you like, Maga Communists.
We're here and we're here to stay and we are here to challenge and overthrow the imperialist
Jehemi just like as it is with the liberal left in the so-called Antifa you
prostitute yourself as a hired thug of imperialism we will crush you like a buck we will crush you like a bug. We will crush you under our feet
ruthlessly and we won't spare you or show you any mercy. That's a promise. You
want to be a black shirt for the Globo-Homo, we will treat you accordingly. We won't make
and repeat the same mistakes of the early European communists who were bewildered and a little
bit confused about the early fascists. We know about you, we know about your nature and we
will be ready for you before you leave your cradle. We're already doing that as
far as the Info War is concerned and that's exactly what we're doing now.
We are here to replace you. You need to understand that. You're out. Your significance is exhausted.
You failed as dissidents. We are the dissidents now. The real dissidents.
Things are returning to where they should be. Why should the right wing be dissidents?
They're not dissidents. I mean granted.
Granted.
Okay.
The right wing has mounted
worthwhile, to a limit extent, critiques of
the status quo, mainly in the form of culture though, right?
The decline of family values in the form of culture though, right? The decline of family
values, the decline of any sense of meaningfulness, the rampant rise of nihilistic
sentiment, the decline of any kind of familiar or at least minimally human.
Art.
The decay of spiritual and cultural values, these are all legitimate criticisms of the status quo.
Of course, the trampling down upon the civil liberties of American citizens,
we've always commended those who have highlighted this.
And for a long time, that was coming from the right from Ron Paul from
Rand Paul we of course commend this them being right wingers doesn't stand in the way of us commending that
We praised Donald Trump's critique of US foreign interventionism,
as well as the so-called free trade policies, NAFTA,
and so on and so forth.
We give the devil credit where the credit is due
But now that these right wingers are showing their true colors and just
Firmly standing behind the global homo hegemony. Why? Because they don't like black people.
What is there to say?
The problem is that we're the anti-white ones, no. The problem is that you're willing to sell out your own principles
in the name of petty racial hatred. It makes you unfit to have any political relevance or significance.
It makes you unfit to be taken seriously.
It makes you fit to be crushed, removed, replaced, such as what is happening.
Now, the history of U intervention and fucking up the lives of the Haitian people is very
long.
But let's trace the current events to a more recent one, which was the assassination of Haiti's former Prime
Minister in 2021, an assassination which was planned in Miami and Columbia.
Totally not suss.
Of course, the so-called culprits were tried and found guilty in U.S. courts, by the
way, just like Jeffrey Epstein was going to be tried and found guilty in U.S. courts.
Of course, Jeffrey Epstein had nothing at all to do with the U.S. government.
I mean, why would they throw him in jail if he did, right?
They'd never do that.
Well, in any case, since then, we basically appointed Haiti's new Prime Minister, who is
so extremely unpopular among the Haitian people, whose status there is an affront to their dignity, a front to their
feelings of basic human dignity, and even the veneer of national sovereignty, Haiti descended
into chaos, a complete breakdown, complete breakdown of the legitimacy of the state,
even as the veneer of legitimacy, totally broke down in what happened.
So-called gangs rose to fill the vacuum of civil society spontaneously. Now we call them gangs because they're illegal
organizations and they are diverse in content of course. Many of them are
directly on the payroll of foreign forces. Some of them represent some indigenous organic sociological formation of power and
organization in Haitian society.
In any case, it's a shit show.
Some are being employed as mercenaries of foreign interests.
Some are just representative of an organic sociological change in Asian society.
They've never had their own sovereignty. They've never had their own government.
And the origins of the state, the origins of government, such as they are, are violent, messy and chaotic.
And every state in history, every real state at least, has its origin in warlords, in primordial
forms of social organization and power distributed across civil society, which aggregate into
a central power only through either a confederation
of these various different tribal interests or through a war of conquest in which one
group, one tribe, conquers all the others. This is a basic truism of history
For all of the right-wingers clutching pearls at the horrors of what's going on in Haiti
Don't pretend you're above any of that because you're already cannibals.
The only thing stopping you from eating black people is the fact that there's armed police and there's a semblance of law and order.
What happens when that breaks down in the United States? Do any of you think these neo-Nazi skinheads are going to behave in a civilized manner?
Do you really think that? I don't?
Do you think these right-wingers who so casually dismiss and mock
the death of people they disagree with are
going to be these peaceful non-know. It's going to be a total shit show. It's
going to be worse than Haiti. It's going to be like Liberia was in the 1990s.
That's the fate that awaits the United States and it's going to be a profound irony
when these racist scum witnessed the same thing happened to the United States, what happened
to Haiti and what happened to Africa. No, not because of
black people and Mexicans. White people are going to be joining in on the fun
as well. They may even be at the vanguard of it because they are a majority
after all. That's the fate that awaits this country.
Barbarism all around.
You explain these basic facts to right wingers.
Basic facts about Haiti.
Basic facts about how we've appointed
their government and extremely unpopular government. How gangs have filled the vacuum of
a missing sovereignty. And what do they say? They go on these tirades and all the IQ differences of what?
Why don't you be more specific about the content of what we're talking about?
It's almost as if, you know, you go and you steal someone's wallet, and then I punch you in the face to give it back to them and then
and then your friend comes up to me and starts talking about the generalities of
differences and and psychological I don't I mean, you took someone's wallet.
That's what happened, okay?
It's a very concrete, specific situation.
There's no need to get into generalities about,
Oh, the racial, shut the fuck up because you sound like a faggot.
Excuse my French.
But really, I can't help it with these people.
It's like, are you capable of any kind of like analysis that requires work?
You're not because you're in neat.
Because it's easy to just talk about racial differences and IQ.
Yeah, that's easy to talk about because you don't have to do research.
You don't have to actually know anything.
You don't actually have to like study what happened.
You don't have to know anything about Haiti.
You just, oh they have
black skin so that's a... Yeah, okay. That's easy. Doesn't make it true. By the way, um...
I know I'm clowning on right wingers. I know I'm being very savage and very brutal toward them, being very heavy-handed
toward them. But I'm actually doing them a favor. I'm educating them. I don't have to do this, you can continue
to meander in your incompetence, your stupidity.
Your black propaganda, no racial pun intended, your lies and tall tales, your imperialist propaganda, you prostituting yourself as an info
warrior for the global homo, that doesn't further your so-called cause.
That doesn't make you an effective person.
It just makes you somebody who's shit-coding the discourse, so to speak.
You're just muddying the waters.
You're not giving rise to some new movement. You're not producing anything of value
You're just keeping people ignorant and stupid. You're keeping people enslaved
To the status quo. That's what you're doing
You're keeping people subordinate to
whatever it is we have already. This is your life goal? Because you're such a
loser, because you failed to amount to anything of significance, your main goal in life is to what, now just reinforce people's stupidity and ignorance,
and lack of education about world affairs?
You're the reason this country is going down the gutter.
You venerate, sanctify, and celebrate the gross ignorance of the people living here,
of things that are happening on their front door. What discussed me so much about the imperialist ideology, the imperialist mentality is the hypocrisy.
It would be one thing if they clung to their notion of might is right, the superiority of the races.
Fine, cling to that, cling to that and be consistent about it.
I would be fine with that. I wouldn't accept it myself, but I wouldn't anger me,
wouldn't bother me, because it would inevitably run upon contradictions like for example
When a people decide they've had enough
Of being an example of a of an inferior race when they decide to take their country back
Like Thomas Sankara did in Africa, like Ibrahim Trier is doing in the Sahel.
Like Malema wants to do in South Africa, but it's been done.
And what happens, you feign moral outrage?
Moral outrage.
Not, you don't say, oh, we need to protect our might and prove our might is right.
No, you feign moral outrage. You start crying
and complaining about the communists. The communists! The evil, brutal and ruthless
communists! I'm on, I'm gonna maintain my composure discipline.
But how could you not be outraged by this hypocrisy?
Might is right on the one hand, but then when they actually decide to prove their own might, suddenly you feign moral outrage, and like Jordan Peterson, you start crying about souls in the gulag.
Well, you are the example of why there was gulags. We do need gulags, of course we do,
to put people like you in them. It would be nice if we could just reason with people.
I'm trying to reason with people. I've always tried to. You can't reason with these racists.
You can't reason, how can I reason with them?
We're not censoring them. We invite them to come and debate us and let them go on their
spiel about race and IQ and get knocked down in the process, but they don't do it because
they can't be reasoned with. If you can't be reasoned
with, you're going to be dealt with in a different way. We'll leave that ambiguous, but what
choice do you leave us when we assume power, of course?
What choice would you leave Stalin?
Why, of course he's gonna throw these people in gulags.
What choice do you leave him?
We're trying, we tried to reason with,
with people like you, counter-revolutionary scum.
He tried.
It's not like he shut the door on reason.
These Solzhenitsynet, and Intelligentsia,
they try to make it seem like that, but it's not true.
The door was always open for you to make it seem like that, but it's not true. The door was always
open for you to make your case. You couldn't do it. So what did you start doing? You started
sabotaging railways. You started spreading lies. You started destroying crops. You started
destroying infrastructure. You started wrecking.
That left the Soviet state with no choice.
So we are under no illusions. I mean, uh, Maga communism, we're under no illusions. I mean Maga communism. We're under no illusions if we came to power in the United States
You would probably also leave us no choice. I mean we're seeing it now
I mean look the right wingers may come and grovel at our feet when we acquire some more political significance
and maybe then they'll try to reason with us, but that ship will have sailed.
That train will have passed.
Your chance to reason with us is now.
If you don't do it now, you can't do it in the future. Let's be clear about
that. Now is your chance to do that. Not in the future when we're more powerful.
They grovel before power. They grovel before power, they grovel before, they grovel before
the work of better men. Now is your chance to reason with us. We are willing to reason with anyone. Be civilized
and reason with us. We can reason with you. We can explain our position. We can give you
an opportunity to argue on behalf of yours and explain to you patiently why you're wrong.
But now that's, you don't do that now.
What you do now is you say, oh, you're, uh,
we're gonna deport you, Haas.
When Trump gets elected, you're gonna be deported to Nicaragua.
And, but what happens when that doesn't happen?
What happens when Haz doesn't get deported? What happens when Haas stays in this country?
What happens when Haas becomes a little more prominent in this country?
What happens when Haas remembers the things you said about deporting me? What
happens when you are perhaps in a vulnerable position relative to Haas, of course.
We're going to remember that, you know, we're going to remember these things.
It's not very smart to make enemies of us at this stage. I don't think it is.
I don't think it is.
I don't think it. That's the truth. I will only rise in significance.
I mean, look, I could die like in an hour.
Someone in an hour can come and put a bullet in my head
60 minutes from now.
And I will still outlast whatever significance you think is my limit.
That's how much this is already set and done.
I mean, I can't guarantee the. is going to be a communist country.
Of course, no one can be certain about that.
I can't even say it's likely.
But what I can be certain of, what I can be certain of, is that the significance of this,
this thing we have going on,
we haven't even seen 1% of it.
It is going to play out to its fullest and most logical conclusion. All that it is made of will develop and will be unleashed. That doesn't bode well
for you.
I mean, at that point, our enemies are much bigger than you are.
You, you will be trampled over like an elephant
trampling over some kind of insect.
But maybe we'll come across a mammoth that tramples over us,
we don't know. But you, you are no serious opponent, no serious enemy. Your best
bet is to sit down and bow before your new con actually.
Um, or be swept aside. It's up to you.
It's honestly up to you.
But let's let's drop the illusions.
Haas isn't going to be deported.
If anything, I'm going to be a warlord in 10 years, and you're going to live under the thumb of my dictatorship.
And I'm going to have you work as a slave in my minds, probably. That would be a very, very generous fate for you.
I doubt, I doubt it will be so nice for you to be honest. But you will be in like my slave labor camps. I will be riding a horse and literally I will
I will have you by chains probably. I'm not going to be deported. I've just gotten started in this country.
I have been planted in this country by history itself from the Middle East,
the cradle of civilization. I've been planted here by history and I have not even started.
The reason why I'm here has not even come close
to exhausting its purpose.
I'm gonna be here for a long time, okay?
You're gonna have to get used to me.
And it's not gonna be very nice. You're going to have to get used to me and
It's not going to be very nice
For you Uh, but that's just my dream actually I can't guarantee that
But I think it's more probable than me getting deported. That's
what I mean to say. No, I'm here to stay, sorry. You can't cope. Your way out of
this. In any case, people talk about cannibalism in Haiti and so what? What are you going to do about it?
I mean, Haiti is undergoing a horrific chaotic situation. We're not above that either.
It'll happen to us too when law and order breaks down in this country, and it will, by the way.
And if you don't think it will, I want what you're smoking. I want what you're having.
You think that with the current trajectory of the United States, that somehow we're going to maintain constitutional order.
Even if we have an extra, you know, I've seen people say things,
there's a Baron Trump is going to be the new Caesar.
Actually, we're going to have a monarchy.
And no, no, we're not going to have a monarchy.
We're going to have total chaos.
Total chaos. A total breakdown of any semblance of order. You want to know why because you can't
have a monarchy based on pure force. You can't have a monarchy without a civil society in which that monarchy is
meaningfully receptive. In contrast to what John Locke and classical liberal
theorists might have you believe, Hobbes.
Monarchies are not based in just one powerful guy dominating everyone else.
That's not what they're based in. Monarchies are ultimately based in a social contract, right?
They're actually based in some kind of ability
to represent their population.
And if you don't have a coherent,
if you don't have an actual civilized population,
people who exist in association for a historically organic reason, you don't
have a monarchy.
So no, the U.S. isn't going to become like the Roman Empire, it's going to become like
Liberia in the 1990s.
There's nothing that unites us as a people anymore.
This is the brutal truth.
I'm not happy about that.
I was in Moscow.
I wish we could be like that.
I wish we could be one big family, have a sense of social solidarity and all be one people.
I wish I didn't have to worry about when I'm on the street a crazy, retarded autistic person coming up to me and just stabbing me for no reason.
Anonymous, what's going on? I long for that. I dream of it. Russia gave me, uh,
Moscow gave me, to me more precise, something to dream about. But it's just a dream.
We aren't a civilized country.
We're a country with a very powerful police and military force.
And when that's all you have,
it doesn't bode well for order in the long term.
We can already see that.
Our cities, our cesspits, our public infrastructure is crumbling.
You can't even walk on the sidewalk and be safe anymore in America's major cities.
Can you name me a single major city in this country that is family-friendly?
That you would be comfortable walking on the sidewalk with your kids on? Probably none. So how does
that situation resolve itself? Is there any way out? Is there any way to overcome the irreconcilable differences between the American people?
They're not just racial differences. It's a fundamental contradiction at the heart of the outlook of the American people.
One, on the one hand, liberal, on the other hand, conservative.
Call it whatever you want. Red versus blue.
Urban versus rule. It's irreconcilable.
It's a polarization that no one is going to overcome.
Tell me how that ends. Tell me how that ends, if not with people eating each other.
People were ready to eat each other in 2016.
You think we're somehow above that? What's going on in Haiti? Where the sovereign state
has collapsed and it's devolved into this kind of primordial tribal violence?
This, this, uh, how would I put it?
What's the word for this, this primogenesis of state power in the
war of all against all, this anarchy, different
tribes entering and going and associating. I mean it's not even necessarily
true let's be honest. Haiti isn't experiencing some kind of primordial social chaos.
That's only one part of the picture.
The other part of the picture is the vested foreign interests.
Ah, you forgot about that, right?
Vested for an interest which have bribed some of these gangs, some of which are affiliated with multinational corporations or global capital. It's like how people think the Congo is just a bunch of Africans
fighting each other because they don't like each. No, it's a proxy conflict is
what is what it is.
And something similar is undoubtedly happening in Haiti as well.
But I'd love to do that thought experiment.
Police. But I'd love to do that thought experiment. Police, gone.
The power of the state, gone.
What happens to the US?
Is it just black people who start eating each other? I don't think so. I think
white people will do it too. I think everyone will start eating each other. I mean you may
make the case that there's small rural towns in white America where they
kind of have some deep sense of cultural solidarity and and
inability to get along.
But you know, it's not the full truth.
Go, for example, to West Virginia.
Small, nice, white towns where parents are selling their kids into sexual slavery, prostituting their own children, to buy fentanyl, to buy drugs.
Don't think white people are somehow above the barbarism of capitalism.
They're not.
Russians are white. Look what happened to Russia in the
1990s. And if you don't think Russians are white, I don't know what white is
anymore, to be honest. I understood when you said I'm not white. I understand that. I don't understand why you would say they're not.
So what do we have in the case of Haiti? One,
Oh my God, why are they eating each other?
Well, we're not above that too.
Oh, Haas, why are you just blaming the US for all of their problems?
Well, I'm not necessarily blaming the US.
You can also blame the Haitians that listen to the US.
Maybe that's what we should be blaming.
We should be blaming the non-Western world for listening to the U.S.,
for listening to the global homo, for listening to the liberal ideology, the liberal hegemony. Stop listening to them.
Stop believing their lies. Stop believing the white man's lies.
But the problem is once they stop believing your lies, you start feigning moral outrage. You start crying like
Jordan Peterson about Solzhenitsyn and that horror Yanby Park. That's the problem.
You need to just get over it. Oh, Haas, what are you saying?
We should just leave Haiti alone and stop giving them aid?
That's not what I'm saying.
That's what they're saying.
They don't want your aid.
U.S. aid in Haiti has exclusively served the purpose of making it impossible for Haitian farmers
to compete with free food.
That's the purpose it serves in Africa.
I mean, how do you think people get paid in the world?
Do you think they just work at McDonald's
or something? No, they get paid from farming. They get paid from these primary forms of production.
And USA destroys those jobs.
Dear Lord, I am very sorry what I have done.
I have done since, many sins.
I am scared of death and afraid that devil himself comes
to get me out of this world.
Please pray for me and help me right now.
A wife eater.
Yeah, we can't tell if that's in Haiti or if that's in Nebraska, to be honest, but may
God help you wherever you are.
May God help you wherever you are.
And may the police find you. May that happen as well. May the police also find you.
But, no, in all seriousness, in all seriousness, they have no arguments. They have no arguments. They have no arguments.
They have generalities. Oh, you're blaming Whitey for black man's problems.
Well, I'm an American. We should take responsibility for the things we've done to other countries.
Shouldn't we? Shouldn't we?
I mean, maybe you could say they're suckers
for allowing it to happen.
Maybe you can try to make that argument.
But then you would be making the same argument
many Haitians now are making that are rising up and attempting to overthrow the government.
That's kind of what they're trying to say.
That they've had enough of listening to the U.S. and buying their lies.
And you're feigning moral outrage because of the violence.
Well, revolutions are always violent affairs.
You don't think the French were eating each other in 1789?
They were.
They were.
I love this veneer of civilization, law and order, that these right-wingers hide behind
to pretend like we're somehow a civilized country.
It's very cute.
It's just not true. The truth is, we are a second away from tearing each other's heads off in this country. And the only thing stopping us
from doing it is that we can't get away with it right now.
But again, when the polarization reaches the level of law enforcement,
when it reaches the level of the repressive organs of the state,
and it reaches the level of the military.
Who's going to stop it?
People say, Haas, why do you hate the government so much?
And I have to say, I mean, I don't hate the government.
The government is going to be torn apart.
I don't have to hate them.
You see, that's the beauty of it.
This isn't the people versus the government.
This is the division that's going to split the entirety of this country, including the government.
You know, if some kind of DHS agent apprehended me,
I know you're at war with all of us, I said, me, I'm at war with you.
You're at war with yourself.
Your fellow agent, you know, one is a transgender and the other one is a Ben Shapiro viewer.
You guys are going to coexist? Good luck. Even in your
department, even in your department, you're polarized. Every facet of US
society is divided, even the government. Who are you going to blame for that?
Me?
Russia? It's a smart idea.
Blame Russia so that everyone can be united against Russia and ignore the irreconcilable
differences they have with each other.
It won't work.
You tried it with Ukraine. It didn't work.
The conservative in intelligentsia are trying to be corralled into that.
That's the latest thing.
The pro-NATO right.
But they will never have the consensus of the base.
Maga will never ever get behind it.
The American people won't get behind it.
You, parasite scum, intelligentsia, the failed right-wing intellectuals of 2016, together
with the left liberals.
Together, you will attempt to fuse and enforce a kind of unity ticket for the hegemony.
It won't work. Because you don't have the support of the people,
because the division at the level of the people is the problem. You are already bought
and paid for. You're already taken care of.
Notice something about Twitter ideologist.
There's all this, there's a common solidarity they all share.
Doesn't matter where they fall in the political spectrum.
The common solidarity is, they are this outmoded cultural intelligentsia, if you can even
call them that, versus the plebeian masses who they all detest in common.
I can't tell you how many left liberals I see deriding and just seething at the existence
of farmers.
I hate farmers. And then right-wingers say to say the same it farmers what are we brown
We should all be wearing suits
Like that hoss guy
Walk Oliver Anthony. But what do I know? I'm just a, just a brown third worldist. You know, the interesting thing is that, in the case of Haiti, the conclusion is always going to be the same when it comes to them.
We're not the ones advocating for any intervention in Haiti.
They are.
Well, they clearly can't get their society together.
So we may as well do the base thing, just like the Roman Empire,
and go and send our Marines there and occupy them just like we've done for a hundred years.
It's our birthright.
It's almost like these people are all feds.
It's almost like they're all feds and they're just doing whatever is in the interest of feds.
Isn't that crazy?
Isn't that crazy?
I want to show you some of these tweets. We can get into that.
Uh, okay. Let's see.
This person, he clearly alerted the group chat so he's beating back the ratio.
He alerted the whole right-wing group chat to beat back this ratio.
Interesting.
But what do we see on the merits?
The West has meddled in Hades affairs.
We...
Who is we, by the way?
This guy is...
Who is we? The Western ruling class, he's a part of them? No he's not.
No he's not. This guy is literally a lump and gutter trash low life. There's no we there at all.
So what he means to say is the global homo hegemony, the deep state, built them infrastructure
schools, hospitals, power plants, you name it, not true.
What was built?
The $15 billion of aid that was just looted by the Clinton Foundation?
Did you, 90% of everything we've sent to Haiti was just recycled and laundered back to the US?
Probably for purposes of tax evasion
to be honest but we didn't give them anything that's just a fucking lie we
built them infrastructure where where three separate times, where? What are you talking about? What are you
talking about? We've literally stolen everything from Haiti. They have nothing.
What does Haiti have that belongs to them? We have taken everything for over a hundred years. It's never belonged to them.
The only thing that belonged to them were small plots of land owned by Haitian peasants.
And even those we started stealing in the past few decades.
This is such a lie, it's incredible.
562 people got on board with this lie. Why? Because they hate black people?
Why do you hate black people so much? I don't get it.
Can someone help me understand why they hate black people so much?
I don't want to get Freudian or anything, but I'm really confused by it.
What did, what, why do you hate them so much for? I mean, if black people are truly inferior,
if they're truly subhumans, then leave them the fuck alone, first of all.
Oh, oh, you Haitians are so subhuman.
You're so black and subhuman and you're so, you're so inferior to us that we need to constantly
poison your society with our NGOs and our regime
change operations and choose who your prime minister is in meddling, no, leave them alone.
Why can't you do that?
Ever try that? At least once?
But anyway, why do you hate them so much if they're truly so inferior as you say they are?
Where does the hatred come from?
Why do you hate them so much if they're inferior?
For example, you're inferior to me.
I don't hate you. I just know that you're an inferior. You're an inferior subhuman.
I see you like cattle, literally like cattle.
I see you in the way, you right-wingers, I see you in the way, you right wingers, I see you in the way you
accuse Jews of seeing the Goyim. That's literally how I see you. Cattle. I see you as subhuman.
Sometimes you can be corralled in different directions, sure, but oh I don't see you as an equal.
I see you as, I mean, I try to give you good faith sometime, but when a cow just moose, what do you want me to do?
You just move, what can I say?
You can't reason with you. You have no education.
You don't read books. What do you want for me?
So there's no hatred there. I do think when we come to power that it may be a
problem if you if you don't submit there will be a problem. You can have
whatever opinions you want but you're just going to have to submit. But it won't
be personal don't worry I won't hate you.
When I throw you in the gulag, it won't be out of hatred.
It will just be a pragmatic necessity, maybe, if you cause trouble.
Anyway, um... Um, why do you hate black people so much? We need to talk about that. Is there a single right
winger that can explain why they hate black people so much? Because you claim that you're better than
them. They're inferior to you, apparently, but you hate them so much.
You just can't leave them alone. What does it mean to hate someone so much you just can't leave them alone,
even if they have nothing to do with you. Where does that come from?
What is that?
I don't understand it.
I'd like someone to explain that to me.
Maybe one day. I think there's another right winger who um who's on their way to
ratioing me. This on their way to ratioing me.
This is the American education system, ready? Or some shit-whole European countries education system.
I don't know.
So it's an anime profile picture. So it's a transgender.
Haitians massacred the French then installed a ruthless government where they
enslaved blacks anyway oh long
Haitians massacred the French when in 1804
Blackpack what's going on chess was 95% white um
Minister what's going on?
Haitians Massacre the French in 1804, I believe.
If that's what you're talking about.
So this is apparently, this is, um, this is their way of educating people about over 200 years of history. You know that thing that happened it's just like a Twitter discourse thing where they just like they massacre and they started enslaving blacks anyway and it's just like a Twitter discourse thing where they just like they massacre and then they started enslaving blacks anyway and it's just
And then you were lined up against the wall and massacred with a machine gun
that happened in 2036. One by one lined up. But for real, I mean,
what can I say? 1.3 thousand people find this to be an intelligent argument.
Or they just think it's like a smart thing to say.
I guess. It's a...
It's a cool thing to say, I should rather say.
It's totally the vibe. It's totally the vibe.
I'm like, why do you have to quote tweet me though? Like, why do you have to put so much effort into this?
Why do you care? That's the real question. Why do you have to put so much effort into this? Why do you care?
That's the real question.
Why do you care?
If you're right, why do you care?
Why do you have to defend your argument?
Shouldn't it just be self-evident?
Like, what are you even trying?
What message are you even trying to convey?
Like what's the goal?
Just to reveal how much you resent black people,
because that's what it seems like to me.
You're just all collectively reveling in your collective resentment and butt hurt over black people.
Is there anything else to this? Because I'm educating people. I'm educating people.
I'm telling non-western people, hey, look at Haiti. Don't ever listen to the Western liberal ideology.
Let them call you totalitarian. Let them call you communist. Let them call you whatever you want.
Cuba, for all its faults, is not experiencing the troubles Haiti is right now.
A lot of shit was thrown at them, but it was worth it.
Don't be scared to challenge the Western hegemony. That's my message.
What's your message? Coping?
Trying to make yourself feel better?
About not being black?
Do you have anything else?
Probably not, because you have an anime profile picture.
So you're a faggot.
This person's literally called anime profile pick.
U.S. apologizes for evil colonialist actions.
When?
Pulls out all operations and leaves Haiti 100% alone. This is their actual education level.
You know, I kind of learned. This is their actual education level.
You know, I kind of learned from my Chinese friends.
I could verbally tear these people to shreds and swear at them and stuff, but it's like,
it's kind of nicer to just be like you lack education.
It's kind of nice to just say that. You know, because it's true. What else is there to say?
You're just a stupid person. Like there's nothing else to say. You're just a stupid, ignorant person.
Nothing you ever say or believe will ever be of any consequence to the world.
You will rot, die alone, no one will remember your name.
I think that's really kind of what I'm getting at. No one will remember your name. I think that's really kind of what I'm getting at.
No one will remember your name.
I will, I can die tomorrow, people will remember my name.
I will have been a part of something.
You, no one will remember your name.
You'll have no legacy.
You've contributed nothing to the world.
If you died, no one would care.
Anyone who'd shed a tear over you amounts to no significance either.
You are quite literally a worthless, disposable, waste of life. This
sentence contributes absolutely nothing to the collective wealth of knowledge of mankind.
It contributes nothing. It's just you, uh, reveling in your resentment of black people and that's it.
We get it. Your butt hurt over black people.
But, is there anything else?
Is there anything else?
I mean, is there literally anything else?
Your butt hurt over black people, we get it.
We understand.
What else?
Remember guys, we're the ones who are anti-white.
It's not just, we're anti-white by the way because we're just not anti-black.
That's really what this all amounts to and it's all it's ever amounted to.
We get accused of being anti-white because we're not anti-black.
In order to be pro-white, you have to hate black people and consider
them subhuman. Well we don't, so I guess that makes us anti-white in the way, some of our memory didn't, wasn't erased yesterday, okay?
We still remember, what was it, two years ago where the U.S. was trying to invade Haiti and is undoubtedly going to try and use this as a pretext to invade it again?
And we will be there. We will be vigilant against the US interventionist agenda and we will be here to crush any of its apologists
on the plane of information warfare including the right wingers Thank you. But I see a lot of violence, a lot of violent resentment among these right wingers and
you know,
I see a lot of violence, a lot of violent resentment among these right wingers and you know something's got to
be done about that.
If America has a future civil war, they're going to be on the side of the liberal hegemony,
by the way, they're not going to be on Maga's side.
And you know, they're going to just be treated as the lump-in criminal scum that they
are, just like the Azavites in Ukraine
By the way the US completely left Haiti alone, but they killed their president in 2021, but they left them alone Honestly, they left them alone. Honestly, they left them alone.
They appointed a deeply unpopular, universally hated government.
But in a way that like left them alone, you know? They're stealing all and
extracting all the resources, but like in a way that's like leaving them alone. You
know? They're enslaving them to debt on behalf. I saw this really funny person's like, if
the IMF really wanted to debt on behalf. I saw this really funny person who's like, if the IMF really
wanted to enslave Haiti to debt, they would actually make Haiti prosperous, you know,
so they could pay back the money. Because that's what global usury loves when you can pay the money back, right?
That's what usurious financial capitalists love, paying the money back.
I should you not, I saw that.
I saw someone, some right-winger make that claim, make that argument.
What can I say? What can I say? The education level speaks for itself.
Yes, us usurious capitalists love when you pay them back. That's their favorite.
It's not like they want to trap you in debt slavery forever so they could have a permanent
claim to everything on your land and below the ground in your land. No, no, no, no.
They want you to just pay them back so they can leave you alone and
not have any exclusive and privileged access to your land and resources. Of course.
Of course. Of course.
Of course.
Um, Jews and black people.
The primary contradiction, guys.
Jews and black people. Where does it all come down to?
What does it all come down to?
What does it all come down to?
Uh, now I'm going to do something rare.
I've kind of realized the debate era.
Right-Wingers don't debate anymore.
But I'll give them a chance. Come and VC and inform... Right-wingers don't debate anymore.
But I'll give them a chance.
Come and VC and infrared and debate me on Haiti, if anyone wants to.
But I doubt they'll do it.
Highly doubt they'll do it. I highly doubt they'll do that though. Suez, what's going on?
Ah, they won't come in debate by the way because they'll get crushed just like Patrick Casey was.
They can't say any of these things with their voice.
They talk about how much they hate black people and how racist they are.
But every time they use their voice to say it, they sound like faggots.
So they don't say it because they know how gay and retarded it sounds. I actually hate black people a lot. I'm Thank you. Okay. And make no mistake, I want to talk about the significance of why right-wingers are so
adamant and insisting upon, you know, the racial hatred toward Haitians,
is, in addition to wanting to run cover for U.S. imperialism and U.S. intervention in Haiti,
what they're basically also going to try and do is use the same and U.S. intervention in Haiti.
What they're basically also going to try and do is use this as a pretext for racial violence
in the U.S.
and spreading racial enmity in the US in order to
polarize society on racial rather than class-based grounds as they've always done.
Anyway, there's someone in show queue and we're going to bring them up.
Go ahead.
Yo, can you hear me?
Yeah.
Oh, what's up?
I don't know.
What's up?
So I am a fan of your show, believe it or not.
I just, I don't understand this, this Haiti stuff and this South Africa stuff.
It just seems like it's, it's completely delusional.
You know, I mean, South Africa and Haiti, they don't even have electricity.
If it weren't full of Western aid, they would completely starve to death.
And I just, I don't see how South Africa and Haiti are the future of, I guess, socialism.
When did I say Haiti was the future of socialism?
First of all, second of all, you claim that they don't have electricity and are reliance on Western aid.
Why? Well, I mean, they've been reliance on it since probably, I don't know, decades, 100 years.
How long has Haiti received... Probably, I don't know, decades, hundred years.
How long has Haiti received Western aid?
How long has Haiti received Western aid?
I don't know the exact history of Haiti, but I'm assuming many decades.
And how long has Haiti been an independent country formally speaking?
Well, that depends on your definition, I guess.
How did Haitians feed themselves before the free food?
Well, I mean, I guess they barely survive. The free food
Well, I mean, I guess they barely survived. I mean, that's kind of a point that before the West started giving them aid
They were barely getting by I mean, they were on the brink of starvation. You know, that's kind of a point. They're on the brink of starvation, you know, that's kind of the point. They're on the brink of starvation now with Western aid.
Yeah, that that shows that proves the point even more that even with us helping them, get it right. How did we help them by
causing rampant unemployment by devastating the agricultural economy and
putting their farmers out of work? How did that help them? I mean were they farming to begin with? Were they even able to do that help them? I mean, were they farming to begin with?
Were they even able to do that?
If they had farms, and I don't think
we would have had to give them aid, right?
Are you sure about that?
If they were able to feed themselves, why would we have to give
them so much aid? This is Africa, this is Haiti. Why give them aid if they can manage it
those tous? I'm gonna give you the opportunity to guess. If Haiti had farms, why did we send them aid?
What was the purpose of that if they had farms and they were producing their own agricultural foodstuffs and products,
small peasant proprietors?
Why did we give them aid instead? What was you? Yes. Did they have that though?
That's the point. Yes, Simon, yes, they did have that. They did have that, Simon. Yes.
The answer is yes. From from my understanding Haiti has struggled since
its independence or if you want to call it that and they didn't rely on aid for food until
pretty recently. Okay.
So do you want to take a guess? Do you want to take a guess as to why we filled their country with so-called aid, even though they had an agricultural economy?
Yeah, my contention is that I don't think they really did.
I think they probably had some agriculture.
They obviously weren't all starving to death, or they wouldn't exist.
They'd be extinct.
They didn't have any food.
The point is that us giving them aid is because they weren't able to feed themselves.
So we were doing it out of charity?
I mean, it largely is out of charity. I mean again if you if you
stopped all aid to Haiti you stopped all aid to Africa tens of millions of
people would just stop. Let's focus on I want to focus on I know you have this
black hate fetish so you want to conflate everything into one. I wouldn't say that I mean
Let's focus on Haiti because Africa's a big place
Let's do this all the time. Let's focus on Haiti and point out that I mean you see right now the number one thing here
that has the most control of the country is a cannibal leading a gang of
cannibals called barbecue. They're literally eating each other. Okay. That's what's
happening right now. They're literally in the streets. You can see the videos on Twitter. They're literally eating each other.
Wow! Anyway, I want to talk about this topic of USAID before we get into that.
Your view is that it was done out of charity?
What it was done, it was done to influence different countries and some influence.
I don't think it was totally for charity, but I think a lot of it is charity.
Okay, how much is it charity as a percentage, do you think?
I don't know.
I mean, I think it's probably more cynical.
It's probably to do with Western influence and Western control over that area.
So is it about charity or no? I think it's partly to do with charity.
How much?
I don't know, maybe 20%, 30%.
That's a really interesting figure.
So if it's about Western influence, what kind of influence do you think that is?
Is it economic influence?
Yeah, probably.
What kind of economic influence?
Well, probably to prevent them from going into the sphere of Russia or China, things like that.
I mean, you're more world-wore right on this stuff. You're right, I am. Believe
we're not, you're right. We're debating and, you know... So are you here to debate
or are you here to get educated? I don't understand. Well, if you can tell me why Haiti is so dysfunctional,
then I'm ready to hear it. I just don't see how...
Let's start with the fact that their agricultural economy, which they did have, their primary form of
subsistence for most Haitians, was agricultural subsistence. And we went out of
our way to devastate that through land enclosures, more or less, driving people from their land,
which they no longer own anymore, in part through the mechanism of USAID.
Because when you pump their country with free food, suddenly farmers can't compete
with the price of zero.
So it devastates the source of income for the majority of people there, pauperizing
them, barely even proletarianizing by the way but but to the extent
that it does do that driving them into mines driving them into factories
owned by multi-national corporations to extract their resources
and why even to the extent that it doesn't do that, it destroys competition for
U.S. agriculture. Hades' entire rice economy was completely destroyed. Suddenly there's no
longer a competitor to the U.S. agricultural
exports there. And we have full control. We completely, completely control them. Economically,
by the throat. But that's not even the best part of it. Because even before we
accomplished that complete economic stranglehold through so-called aid, Haiti
has never had a sovereign government. Every government that it's had for the past hundred years, we appointed.
And to the extent that there any kind of leader arose in that country that we didn't approve of,
we simply killed them, we kidnapped them, or the French did it.
Well, I could see the and appointed our own. The most recent president, obviously, I mean, that was the CIA.
I would agree with you on that, but I don't know of the other examples of our history.
Three years ago.
Yes, I completely agree. That was three years ago. I years ago. Yes, I completely agree.
That was three years ago.
I don't know the whole history.
If you can point to me,
was the leader before then?
Was he assassinated?
Was he forced out?
He was the...
In 2021, the prime minister was assassinated by former DEA agents in a plot that was based in my
I was organized in Florida and Columbia. Yes, I'm well aware of that. I'm asking like other leaders before that. I mean you said it's a history of any leaders
They were assassinated. We can even pull up a list
Yeah, I'm not familiar with that. I was assuming that
Obviously some have been taken out or couped or forced out, but I don't think every single president
Has been, you know, assassinated or forced out. I know the most recent one was because a great deal of them were just our puppets.
But those that we didn't approve of, we simply assassinated them. Those that had a
chance of coming to power that we didn't approve of. We assassinated. For over 100 years, by the way.
Native liberal fascists. Yeah, I'd have to look up. I'd have to see exactly the number of leaders
that that's happened to. I know the most recent example obviously and I'm sure there are other examples, but
Yeah, I'm sure they are and that's
even forgetting the assassinations the coups that we've carried out there
where we didn't even have to necessarily kill the
former leaders, they were just deposed illegally.
Um, well, I mean, I, I think there's, well, there's a huge deal of corruption, both from
the actual Haitian leaders and government,
but also obviously the West.
I mean, the Clintons and, you know, basically every president.
So Clinton aid...
I think you're trying to put it all on the West, whereas Haiti is just a prime example of this is what the third world
is.
You know, it's just complete corruption and complete chaos.
And I think that's, you're putting it all in the West.
By the third world, are you referring to 80% of the global population?
Because I can assure you that 80% of the global population isn't the same as Haiti.
Well I think you look at Haiti, I think Haiti compared to Africa is pretty similar. You think Haiti is just like Nairobi, Kenya?
Well, I'm not familiar with Nairobi, Kenya. I'm sure that it's probably not as bad there,
but I'm sure many other places in Africa are pretty damn bad. Africa is an entire continent.
Yeah. So that's, don't you think that's a little like general?
Do you think like Africa is like one? Yeah, look, there are there are places in Africa that are safer and nicer, just like there are places in the
US that are safer, nicer than others.
But in general...
But after it isn't a country, it's literally a continent.
Yes, I'm aware of that.
I think the continent of Africa is not a promising continent.
I think that there's a lot of problems there.
Okay, you're being politically correct.
You just believe that black people are incapable of building any kind of country.
So that's your opinion. There's no need to beat
around the bush. The reason you're mentioning Africa in its entirety... I'm pointing
out that I'm pointing out that without US aid, without welfare, without the
US essentially taking the lead on a lot of these things, whether it's for
good reasons or bad reasons, these countries descend into complete chaos.
In Burkina Faso, Thomas Sankara got to power and told the West to stop giving the name.
I'm more aware of that.
I think he was a great leader.
If he had been killed, I think it would have been killed.
Why do you think that they need U.S. aid?
Well, look at it now.
I mean, are they able to survive without it?
That's the point of making that.
Clearly they are, if we need to assassinate their leaders when they're trying to cut
themselves off from it, clearly they can.
I was in 1964. And during that time, there were
obviously genocides going on and there was tomorrow all over the place. What do you
think is different now from then when it comes to USAID and the role that it
plays and foreign aid in general? I'm not really sure what you mean by that.
Western aid in Africa has always played the same role.
Underdeveloping it and preventing the sovereign growth
of their own economy, beginning from the primary sector economy beginning from the primary sector which is the agricultural sector
I see how it can have it can have economic
Effects on it but the point is that we wouldn't be giving them aid
We we give them aid because it's a good deal because if we can completely put a stranglehold
on how they feed themselves, we get access to all of their precious minerals and resources
which are vital for the global semiconductor supply chain, the production of global electronics,
mineral, precious minerals and resources, which we need to have an edge, we,
the ruling class needs to have an edge when it comes to technology. So it's a good deal for them.
Yeah, they're going to give them USA to control them. That's what they do to control them.
Once they control them, they own all their resources. If you control how people feed themselves, you make
them desperate, you force them to give you their rights to their minds, to their
minerals. Well I do see that. I mean we do we do take advantage of them. We do take
resources from them. But the point is that if we
stop giving them aid, they would not be able to govern themselves or feed
themselves. That's the truly point I make. Where's your proof? What was it like why did we give them aid in the first place? It
wasn't to immediately take over all of their stuff. Yes it was. Simon, yes it was.
Simon, yes it was. Yes it was. It was largely charity. It was largely NGOs. It wasn't even the US government
originally. Who do you think funds NGOs? Do you think NGOs are actually independent?
True, but some of them are independent. Some of them are funded by billionaires and... Yeah, and youthink those billionaires are the ones who control the government in the first place.
So what are we talking about?
Fair point, fair point.
I actually agree with that.
I can see that.
I just, I think you're underestimating the sort of anarchy and the ability to
really have a function society that exists in these places you know regardless of
us a regardless of we're getting to make but how can you, regardless of USAID, regardless of we're giving them aid.
But how can you say regardless of Western aid or regardless of Western colonialism when you
can't point to examples of the absence of those things?
Well, before we gave them aid, they were almost starving or there were genocides going. That's the point.
We had to go in and stop them from, we had to stop them from killing millions of each other
with machetes. I think we're talking specifically about the Rwandan genocide.
What are you talking?
That's one example.
What are the other examples?
What are the other examples?
You look at Somalia, we had to go in and we had many US troops get killed because we
tried to help those people.
We went to Somalia to help the Somali people.
This is news to me.
When did we do that?
Why was the U.S. involved in Somalia to begin with?
We went there to make sure that the people are getting the aid and not just the warlords.
Hold on.
Why was the U.S US in the Horn of Africa?
I don't know.
What a brilliant question.
Why were we in the Horn of Africa?
Can you think of any kind of reason for that?
Can you think of a geographic?
I believe the reason they stated the time
was it was a humanitarian mission along with the UN.
Do you believe that?
Because I don't.
I believe it's somewhat.
I think there were definitely other reasons.
You know, we do a basis, obviously, all over Africa.
I'm sure you also believe that we went into Iraq to topple a horrible dictator as well.
I don't believe that whatsoever.
Okay, then why would you believe the stupid shit they say about why we were in Somalia?
Why do you think we were in Somalia?
Why were we in Somalia?
Because it's literally the horn of Africa because we wanted to maintain a foothold there.
Because it's one of the most geographically important reasons, strategically speaking, for enforcing the global hegemony.
It's literally fundamental for maritime trade. It's literally
one of the most important straits. But they went in and they didn't, they didn't stay.
It's not like after the black hawk down situation. We decided to fully stay there with tens of thousands of troops.
That's not what happened. We didn't need to. We made sure that there were no...
If we're there to take over into, you know, establish a foothold there, why
wouldn't we send more troops? Wouldn't that be the perfect example, the perfect sort of false flag incident?
We just killed a bunch of our soldiers.
The U.S. Afrocom secured the location, yes.
They don't need to send troops.
They don't need to keep troops there.
They made sure that...
Why do we have troops They don't need to keep troops there. They made sure that... Why do we have, why do we have troops there now that? We do have troops there. Yeah,
why do we though? For the same reason, why are they there? For the same reason we
went in originally, I don't know what you're trying to say.
You're trying to say that the US is controlling the Horn of Africa and Africa.
And when I say that, well, why don't we have so many troops there?
You said, well, they don't need the troops.
But now they do have troops there. They don't have as many troops there. You said, well, they don't need the troops. But now they do have troops.
They don't have as many troops. They don't have as many troops. Okay.
So I think we've got ran into a circle. The US did not go to Somalia for humanitarian reasons.
I don't know where you got that from.
My understanding is that the Somalis were starving.
Us along with many other countries.
Why would we care about Somali's starving, Ethiopian starved?
That wasn't a pretext for us going into Ethiopia.
Plenty of people starve.
We don't care about that.
Yemenis were going to be starving because of our support for Saudi Arabia's war there,
but we didn't care about that.
So what makes you think the US just goes places
to help starving people?
I don't understand.
Well, that might be the, that's sort of the pretext,
but that was the stated reason.
That's all I'm saying.
I'm not, I'm not saying I believe the government.
I'm saying that the government was, you know,
acting totally righteously. I'm just pointing out that when we went into smaller, the whole
reason when we went in in the 90s was because these people were starving. We were giving them
aid and that aid was being seized by all the warlords and not going to the people. what was going on, what was going on is that we
took advantage of the collapse of the Somali government and we took advantage of that to make
sure that we could arrange a deal with some of the warlords there in ways that are favorable to the interests of
The US ruling class and global capital
My understanding is that we went there and they were there to kill a lot of these warlords. They went there to make a deal with them.
Well, your understanding is wrong. Yeah, the warlords that didn't favor us, sure, but not the,
but we were there to make sure that our guys, we would have our guys there who support the US in its interests.
Well, actually, this is actually an interesting aside that I'll ask you about.
Il-Hilmah, I saw something about her father was a colonel in the...
That's before the collapse into anarchy. That's when Somalia had a socialist central
government and central state.
Oh, so that is true.
I saw that.
I wasn't sure.
I mean, look, I'm just wondering if that was true.
Yeah, in any case, I think your understanding
of the African continent is a little too general.
I think you're thinking about a lot of the things
we saw about the Rwandan genocide in high
school and middle school and...
I assume this is the universal state of existence for all of Africa when it's not.
This is actually something that is noted for its exceptionality.
There was the Congo conflict, of course.
It's still raging.
It's a horror over there.
But the idea that this is because we left Africans alone and they're uncivilized,
rather than because the actual reason, which is they don't have any sovereign states,
because Western powers take turns backing various proxy factions.
I think both can be true I mean the whole reason we're
able to explore these areas okay so there was no state because they weren't
able to civilize they weren't able to have a society for themselves that's
kind of where where's your proof they couldn't have a society for themselves?
Where's your proof that they did? That's that's the point.
How about before? If we were able to so easily take advantage of them, how were we able to so easily do that?
Before colonialism? I think, no, I think your view of Africa is very general too, in the sense that you're
sort of, it's very third worldism.
I know you don't like that term.
I know you deny being the third worldist, but I think it's much
too idealistic and it's sort of ignoring that regardless of colonialism, regardless of the West,
these are not, you know, functioning places.
What do you mean by functioning? Because they were functional societies,
obviously before colonialism.
Well, I mean, you're probably going to say this is a white nationalist talking point,
but they had not built a two-story building.
They did not even have a two-story building.
Who didn't have a two-story building? In Africa. That's just not true buildings.
Until the West came along. But you're wrong. You're just wrong.
I don't know what to tell you.
The idea that there is no two-story building in Africa before Western colonialism is just
wrong.
I don't know what to tell you.
Well, you'd have to show me how that's wrong.
I think that's a very well-accepted
fact that they did not invent the wheel and they did not even have a two-stortea building.
The wheel was only invented, the wheel was only invented like two or three times and none
of those times were in Europe. And I don't think they
were in Africa either. That's that's the point. So so what are you trying to say?
It's not common for the wheel to be independent invented independently
anywhere. It's just it happened like once or twice and then it
diffused. I mean like it didn't it wasn't invented in Europe. Yeah I just my
point that I'm making is and you know I don't mean to go in circles if you want to
get someone else on the call that's fine is I think you're far too idealistic I don't I don't I don't
wait wait wait wait wait a sense I'm being very concrete here about the facts and you're calling me idealistic
what on what basis do you call me idealistic I mean I know what you're calling me idealistic. What on what basis do you call me idealistic?
I mean, I know what you're saying.
You're saying is my baked in conception is that black people are wild animals who just
kill each other for no reason.
And you're idealistic for, you're idealistic for you're idealistic for
Viewing this as an inadequate description of the reality of Africa. I don't
But African people in history. I don't I don't know. I mean, I think you're idealistic. I think you just kind of have a wrong view of how anything in the world works.
You claim that, well, regardless of U.S. and Western intervention, it would just be like that.
And I implore you to prove it. I mean, what example do you have of that? You say that before Western colonialism, they weren't as technologically advanced as we
are now, that doesn't mean they didn't function as a society.
That doesn't mean that it was a state of total anarchy and chaos.
It just means... It sort of was, of was though that's the
point. I mean before the West came along they were eating each other and killing
each other and there was no central governments and then it was just total
chaos and when the West came along they did exploit them. They did do things total chaos. And when the West came along, they did exploit them.
They did do things that were wrong.
And they did things for their own reasons.
I think so.
You look at Haiti, you look at Haiti, and this,
and we'll go back to Haiti.
We went there, we tried to give the maid,
we tried to give them the maid we tried to help them and you can say that we exploited them you can say that and I tried to help Haiti did we
try to help Haiti in the same thing that happens no no you can know
when they rose up and out of revolution and killed all the white people is
happening now now they're just killing each other and they're literally cannibalizing people in the streets in real time.
So did we try to help Haiti when we enslaved them before their
revolution? Is that what you're saying? When did we try to help us? That's that's so
what I'm saying. I'm saying after that revolution.
When did the US ever try to help Haiti even once? Go ahead.
All of the billions and billions of dollars of aid that we've given them.
You mean 90% of which, you mean 90% of which was laundered back to the United States?
Not a dime. Well, I the United States, not a dime.
Well, I think some of it was definitely money laundering.
And you think, do you think, we own, the own Haitian government to that money too.
No, there wasn't some money laundering. Do you think, do you think $15 billion can just produce six houses?
Does that make sense to you?
Of course, I think you're looking at it's Western corruption,
and then it's the typical full world corruption that you see Africa, you see in Latin America.
So you think you think... We try to give them money and they pocket themselves the elites of that society
How is the Haitian government pocketing it when 90% of it went back to the US?
Did 90% of it go back to us where did the other all right so let's say that 90% of it somehow went back to the US? Where did the other... All right, so let's say that 90% of it somehow went back to the US.
The rest of it went right back to their own leaders, their own corrupt leaders that are unable to have a society.
Okay, what do you call that though? It's called a bribe.
Do you know what that's called? It's called a bribe like how we bribing to the Haitian government in
2015 to help us with regime change operations in Venezuela
You can look at other places you can look at again who got? Did he just take a bribe from the West or
was he just pocketing all that money for himself while the currency, you know, $1.1 is equivalent
to $1 trillion Zimbabwe dollars? You know, was he just taking that money himself, right?
You think inflation in Zambabwe happened because of foreign aid?
No, I think it was due to corruption by Mugabe, who was essentially a dictator.
It was also due to him kicking out all the white people.
Oh yeah, it was due to capital.
It was due to capital flight, dude.
I don't know what they...
Can I, can I tell you something?
You know most of the world thinks like the West is like enlightened and educated and stuff?
So, apparently white people are supposed to be like smart about shit, but when it comes
to anything related to black people, you just sound retarded and extremely uneducated.
I mean, like, the things you said are crazy.
You said that we've tried to help Haiti, that we did it out of charity? You said that
we said that we did give them aid, we did give them billions of dollars. No, we was obviously
corruption, there was obviously kickbacks. No, no, no, but none of that was unintentional. Simon, none of that was unintentional. no but none of that was unintentional.
Simon, none of that was unintentional. We gave them money. I think it was clearly intentional.
But the point is that it wasn't charity. We weren't trying to help them. We never tried to help them.
We never try to help them. They still did. The US has never trying to help them. We never try to help Haiti. They still did. The US has never tried to help Haiti on anything even once ever.
I mean you can look at all of the money we've given them. I'm sure many of it.
How was that? How was that to help Haiti though? That've given them. I'm sure many of it went back to the U.S.
How was that to help Haiti though? That wasn't to help Haiti. That was either to
launder money or bribe their leaders to do what we wanted, which was against the
interests of the Haitian people. So how did that help them? We still gave them billions of dollars and
some of that aid even if even if you say 90% of it went back to the US 90% of
it was just corruption. So we have still we have still given billions of dollars
to help these people and they are just unable
to do anything.
We haven't given them one cent to help them.
So no money has ever gone to help them at all?
No.
All every single dollar that we've tried to send them has just gone back to the Clintons or or gone
to their corrupt leaders.
You're telling me that zero aid has gone to them at all in decades.
When you factor in the profits that were made by the multi-national corporations that benefited
from this stuff, zero.
Probably. Well, it's actually not only zero, that's not only zero.
It's not only zero, it's in the negatives when you factor in.
Oh, so we've just taken everything from them. Yes, that's what I've been trying to tell you. Thank you.
Yes. We have taken everything from Haiti. Yes.
I've tried not to raise my voice, but that's literally the truth. We have literally taken everything. No, no, we have literally taken
everything. Everything down to No, no, we have literally taken everything
Everything down to the land they stand on we have taken everything
From Haiti they have they have all this mineral wealth they have all of this, all of these natural resources.
That we have taken, we took everything.
Yes.
Well, I would say this and I'm not saying this as I'm like in support of it or anything.
But the point is that if we would just let that sit there, it would sit there for the next
thousand years because they would be
unable to do anything with it. They wouldn't even verify to extract it. Where's your proof?
Based on what? Well, I think the average IQ and you know, you can deny IQ, the average
IQ of 80 is 67. And the average IQ of someone with Down syndrome, I believe, is 65.
So half the people of Haiti are, by definition,
They have Down syndrome.
Retard level IQ.
You're definitely.
They have ret retard level understanding.
That's kind of a problem.
Half of the people there are unable to do it.
And it's like, if only they were as smart as you, because here's the thing, Simon, okay?
So first we said that we were giving Haiti so much for free out of charity
and and but I said I said some of it some of it was no, okay, okay, Simon, so it was first first we said that first first your argument was that in spite of the fact of how much
we've given them, there's still a failed society, yada, yada.
So that's proof they're a failed society because if we've given them so much and they
still can't do anything with it, clearly or there is something racially wrong with them
or something, right?
Then you said, then I got you to admit that we literally took everything from them.
We actually took everything from them.
And I was saying, well, actually, that's for their own good, because if we hadn't done
that, then they wouldn't have done anything with it at all.
And then I say, well, what's your proof of that?
And you say, well, uh, I, I, I, uh, we went down there and and measured their IQs
and made them take IQ tests, which I'm sure they were thrilled to take these tests and really incentivized to do well on them.
Um, and then they came out with a score that's the same as people with Down syndrome so they have no, so they're not even like human, they have no ability to do
anything because of our tests. That's not, that's not exactly what I said. The
point is that you can look at Haiti, look at what's happening
right now. They are literally eating each other in the streets, they are burning down
every single building. The few buildings are standing. So leave them alone. Why can't
you agree? I would have no problem leaving Haiti alone as long as they don't come to the US because what's going to happen
Well, all of these stations are gonna come to the US and they're gonna fuck up the US
That's and and and you know it deserves it and the US deserves it
I wouldn't say that come on man because man. Because here's why you deserve it.
And I, they should go to your neighborhood.
I want them to go to your neighbor specifically.
I have no, I have no, I have no problem you claim to want to be left alone.
Simon.
And if all the Haitians kill each other and eat each other,
then I guess that's their own self-determination. I don't want them in the
US. If you don't want them in the US, you should prevent your own government from meddling in
their affairs. But you don't do that. I don't think we should have ever should have given them.
You don't think we ever should have given them aid aid whether it was for charity or nefarious
reasons you should have let them live in all lives and they're going to kill each other
let them do it it it's none of our business Simon I know you're very passionate about hating
black people but you have to let me get a word in here. I know that you you
believe all these things that you you're fine with that but your government
isn't fine with it. Your government has an incentive to continue meddling in
Hades affairs because the ruling class benefits from this meddling. So until
you have the balls to stand up to the imperialist meddling of your own ruling
class instead of running apologetics for them and justifying the evil
nefarious shit I'm pointing out.'re saying, you just told me, you just told me that had we not looted everything
Haiti owns, that it was, we're better off looting it because it would have just stayed
in the ground anyway.
You're literally running apologetics for the elections
which have destroyed Haiti as a country.
I wouldn't say it's apologetics at all.
The point I'm making is that he was completely
dysfunctional.
It's completely dysfunctional.
Leave it, leave it to its own devices.
I don't think the Ushundrush ever should have gotten involved, ever should have given
the maid.
Simon, that's pretty generous of you, but you're not the one in power who has anything
to gain from it, the ruling class though.
So you're going to have to convince the people who have billions and billions of dollars
at stake, even more than that.
I agree.
We will take down this evil empire together as Maga Communism.
I agree.
Simon, you're getting in the way of taking down the empire when you're running apologetics for the empire's foreign
policy.
I don't think it's apologetics to say that regardless of what the U.S. does,
Haiti is still completely dysfunctional.
The U.S. could have left it alone for 200 years and it would be the same state as
it is. It would be completely dysfunctional as is.
I think that's fair. Therefore, it's totally fine if we send the Marines to the
to Haiti again. I wouldn't say therefore, I know I don't agree with that at all.
I don't agree with that whatsoever. But, but, but, you have a toothless response to the U.S.'s ongoing intervention in Haiti
when you, uh, demon, when you insult and demean and dehumanize the Haitian people.
I don't, I don't think it's dehumanizing just to pointhumanize the ancient people?
I don't think it's dehumanizing just to point out what the reality is.
I think it's just being honest.
I think it's more dehumanizing to think that without the US, the US leaves everything
tomorrow, they let them govern themselves.
I don't think it's fair to say,
oh yeah, if we just leave them alone,
they're going to create a civilization
like America or Europe or anywhere else or Latin America,
literally anywhere else in the world.
It's going to be chaos no matter what.
I think that's the point of time. Haiti is inherently dysfunctional.
Where's where's your proof? Look at the history of it. The history of Haiti. Before we, before
when was Haiti ever free from it was still the same the Hain, it was still the same things
going on.
It was still the same thing.
When was Haiti ever free from Western Colonialism besides like for a few years?
I believe in late 1800s, they were basically free and then White started going back there to
sort of see what was going on there.
You think Haiti was free in the late 1800s?
You have to tell me the history.
I'm pretty sure that's the example.
You can look at Haiti was untouched in the late 1800s for, I think, at least a couple
of decades.
Do you really believe that?
I do believe that.
You can show me the history if you have something to dispute, but they killed all the whites.
They had some period of freedom, and then obviously the French was meddling and obviously
many other places were meddling in it, but I believe in the late 1800s, they were essentially
left alone for at least a couple of decades.
And they were, in Haiti was almost sort of rediscovered by, you know, many whites that
went there to sort of see what was going on there.
Haiti wasn't even left alone a few years after their independence.
You think they were left alone in the late 1800s?
Yeah, if you have some history to dispute, you can tell them the history, but that's
the history is that the West never left Haiti alone and made sure that Haiti could
never prosper because they were fucking but-hurt and humiliated over the fact that you had
this Spartacus-style slave revolt, which they could never allow
to serve as an example of people emancipating and freeing themselves from not only slavery,
but Western colonialism in general. So no, we've never...
I would agree. I think, I think slavery is obviously bad. I'm not going to defend slavery.
But the point is that these Haitians, they killed all the white people,
and then they put on the clothes, they put on the clothes of their oppressors,
the nice clothes that the
French left that were that weren't burned by then and they are not going to
become French by putting on the clothes of the people that were previously
there. They didn't they will never become, Haiti will never become successful. It just never will. It will never be a
functional nation and it's just that's just how it is. So are you God?
That's the point of that. How do you think Haiti is going to somehow become successful?
If every American, every Westerner left Haiti tomorrow, which is the stupid argument.
Simon, this is a stupid argument because...
How long is it going to take a hundred years, two hundred years?
How long is it going to take for Haiti to have some semblance of civilization?
It doesn't matter because Haiti was never left alone.
It doesn't matter.
Since its independence, it was never left alone.
I don't have to speculate about anything in the future when we never left alone.
The West has never left them alone and fucked off from Haiti ever, okay?
It's never happened.
So the crux of the debate is this.
I think that you look at what's happening in Haiti and I saw some of your tweets today.
What's happening in Haiti now, it's complete chaos, it's complete anarchy.
I don't think something better is going to come out of that.
I don't think that all of the West leaving them and basically them not being able to
have any aid because it's, you know, there's no way to even give it to them because it's all warlords now.
That's not, they're not, I don't think anyone in the world has to give a flying fuck
about what you think about Haiti's future.
Why do you think Haiti has some sort of bright future?
What would you... I'm not a fucking stock market speculator who's making calls or shorts on Haiti.
I think you agree with me. I don't think Haiti is going to be able to... Who's making calls or shorts on Haiti?
I don't think Haiti is going to be able to be some successful place.
I don't think it ever will.
It's not my concern if Haiti is a successful place.
It's the concern of the Haitian people.
It's not my concern.
I completely agree. Let them. Why is it your
concern if they're successful or not? It's not my concern. What stake do I have in that?
You're just trying to say that Haitian people are subhuman. That's just what you're trying to say.
I'm not saying this.
Yes, it is.
Listen, Simon, just own it.
You're not getting canceled. We already know you're a neo-nazi or whatever.
So just own it.
You think that Haitians are subhumans and cannot rise to the level of what you consider civilization because of their race. That's what you think.
Am I wrong? I think you can look the history and you can look at
what's happening. Simon, stop being a pussy and just admit what you think. You
think black people are inferior. Actually, you know what, you know it has, maybe
we will agree on this. I'm not going to say their subhuman. I'll say this though.
When it comes to Haitians and honestly when it comes to Indians and
Smolies, I'm not a fan. I think that they really don't offer much in the fucking world. Oh, I admit that. I mean, I'll say that.
And you also think that they are racially inferior.
I mean, you can put it that way you also think that they are racially inferior. I mean you can put it
that way thrown. I'm not gonna say it with your chest. You think Haitians are
racially inferior and you regard them as subhuman. I don't I don't view them as
subhuman. I think that they are never
regard Haitians as racially inferior. Just say it with your chest. Please say the
sentence. I don't I don't do it in those terms. Why can't you why are you such a
pussy? I know you could type it on Twitter could type it on Twitter, but you can't
say it with your trust. Why are you so ashamed of it? Are you scared of getting cancelled or something?
You're already canceled for the shit you just said? Not by me, but by whatever you're
scared of. Are you like afraid of getting your fired or kicked
from university? Just tell us the reason. No, not at all. I don't view it in terms of
universities. So why don't you own up to what you actually think you're the one
wanting in those terms. Simon, you think Haitians are, you
think they are an inferior race, that's what you think. I never said that. I don't believe
that I don't think that Haitians are going to be successful and I don't think that they have
because of the race.
Because of because of the race.
I think it has to do with history, I think it's to do with IQ and maybe race, I think race
race, I think race plays a role and I think it's because of the race.
It's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. I don't I don't I don't think it's because of the race. It's crazy. It's crazy.
Simon, I'm a little frustrated because like I see right wingers on Twitter. I can never get a single one of them to admit with their voice to say with their chest
The things that they type without any issue you think you're trying to give me to say that they type without any issue. You think...
You're trying to give me to say that I believe that a group people is racially inferior.
I don't believe that. I don't put it in those terms.
Because you're being politically correct about it, but that's actually what you think.
You could just admit it. That's what you think.
Why are you saying to admit it?
I'm not going to put it in your terms of I think that's a group of people as subhuman.
Because I don't believe that. I don't put it in those terms. You're the one trying to force okay. Okay, you don't have to say subhuman you could just say you think they're racially inferior
I think they're inferior
Okay, based on history based on IQ
No, no, I think race obviously plays your role in IQ.
You don't, I don't think, I don't think races people are, how does history play a role
in your role? I don't, you, do you think Haitians are, are a distinct race?
Do you think black people are inferior to white people?
I wouldn't clear in those terms. I think that they're less
successful. I don't think they have the ability to be as successful as whites.
Okay, so you're being... I don't do it as an entire group. You think black people are racially, you're think inherently speaking, black people are
racially incapable of self-determination.
No, I think every group deserves self-determination.
I think every group can have self-determination in some way.
I just don't think that the civilization you see in America, in Europe, or even Latin America, or Asia,
is going to be, it's not going to be at that level.
So it's just not.
So, so what, at what level do you think it's going to be at?
I mean, you look at history, you look at regardless of colonialism,
I don't think it's going to be very successful. I think
that if there's going to be black self-determination, it's going to always
depend on essentially the white man's burden of giving them aid and trying to
help them. And why do you, because they kind of can't figure it up themselves.
Why do you think that?
I think IQ was a lot to do with it.
I think history kind of shows that they've been on successful.
You think that's the black race just has that IQ?
That's what you're trying to say.
I don't think they're as intelligent as Asians or whites in general, and I think you look
at history and history sort of shows that.
I don't know that makes someone a subhuman or inferior to be less intelligent.
So, okay, so it's, you're not, you're not saying they're inferior, you're not saying
they're subhuman, you just think they lack the fundamental premises of civilization.
I don't think we can expect them to be as successful as other groups.
I think that's a fair way to put it.
I don't think they're going to be.
I don't think we can really expect them.
Simon, you've twisted yourself into a pretzel because earlier you just said that
Haitians and Africans will always just end up slaughtering each other and
Starving and all this kind of stuff. So it's not we're not talking about like oh, they're just not going to be a
Six, I mean even that we obviously know this is a racist view but I mean I think there's definitely
You basically they're animals
Areas of history where you think that they're animals stop talking about history
You think that they're animals just admitted I don't think entire groups of people are animals
But I think what you're seeing in Haiti right now is that they are a bunch of
Savages. I mean, they're acting like animals in Haiti right now. They're literally eating people in the open and they're burning down every building
And they're killing each other like like animals. I would say that I'm not going to say the Haitians are our subhuman animals. I'll say that. I'm not going to say the Haitians are
subhuman animals. I say they're acting like a bunch of fucking crazy people.
Do you think French people? Do you think that's true for French people too?
Are French people doing the shit like that right now? In the middle of Paris are the actual French people eating each other?
They did in building down every single building?
In 1789 they did.
Sure, yeah, maybe 300 years ago they were doing that when there was a revolution and starvation
and all that.
That was 300 years ago.
The Haitians are doing it right now.
We're seeing it on an iPhone camera.
I mean, I think that kind of proves no point.
So what, what, what does that say about the racial factor?
I think it's a matter of IQ. I think it's a matter of you look at history. the racial factor.
I think it's a matter of IQ. I think it's a matter of you look at the history.
So 300 years, so, so French people have a, were selected in a Darwinist way over the
course of 10. I don't know that I think the French
I mean you look at the French in 1789 and you look at well I mean how did it
how did the French raise their IQ after 300 years if it's inborn and it's something racial.
Well, I mean, there was French civilization going back before that.
There really wasn't African civilization. There were tribes in mudhuts.
And I know you're going to say that, oh, well, it's like, it's so stupid.
I don't even know what to say.
It's like, it's so stupid.
It's like, how do you even respond to something just so wrong?
Um, first of all, you could care, I don't even know where to begin with that. It's so stupid.
The average, what did the French countryside look like in this 1789? You think it was just a bunch
of elaborate castles and stuff? No, the majority of peasants were living in squalor and shit, okay?
Just like the majority of people in human history in general, but anyway, sure, there were there were peasants that were
Look, look, obviously throughout this story. But there were also great
infidels in great buildings and armies and ships and trade and
A government, you know
Well also if you agree with the former government there was actually some semblance of civilization even if there were peasants
Africa was all peasants and no civilization.
Would you like get up in front of like the UN and say that?
Like look like a retard in front of the world?
Like get laughed at by literally the entire world.
Like, you have to understand how profoundly stupid you sound
right now. You're claiming that African people never had any civilization. That's what you're saying?
Pretty much. I mean, again, they didn't have two-story buildings. You dispute that, but that's a fact.
Before whites went to Africa, they literally didn't have a two-story building.
They didn't have the wheel.
And you didn't go back to the thing about the wheel, but it was essentially just tribes
of people killing each other in mud huts.
That's just what it was.
Like, that's just the history.
Um, what's your IQ?
I'm not sure I haven't been tested it.
Have you ever like even read a book in your life like do you just like talk out of your ass?
Yeah, I've read I've read books believe it or not. Yes, I've read books. Can you name five books you've read?
No, not really.
You can't name five books you've read?
You want me to go to my bookshel?
Just name five books you've read?
I read, um, thus capital.
I read, um read a couple of history books.
Okay, so not only have you not read five books, you can't even name five books.
And you claim that, listen, you have to understand what I'm dealing with. Like,
this is the average right-winger. You're claiming Africans have never had any civilization or
buildings or anything. You're claiming that, uh, that because, but even though french people were acting the same way three hundred
years ago that's enough of uh... enough time on the evolution time scale for
a literally biological change
you're trying you're trying to say that like uh... yes i'm doing evolution
you're trying to say that well you're clearly thinking you
think it's biological and inborn well 300 years ago things change civilization
progresses. Okay. Different standards and different practices. Well if people are the same
biologically how can that happen?
What do you mean?
I don't know.
There's different race, there's different race people, there's different groups of people
all over the world.
All right.
Simon, no, Simon, people, Simon, people, Simon, nobody cares about your opinion about
black people, but what we do know is that your opinion is uninformed.
It's based on a lack of knowledge about basic history. You're unable to understand
the basic facts about Haiti's recent history, yet you make grand claims about it such as the
Haitian people are inherently incapable of doing anything without Western
help even though they've never literally been left alone for anyone to know that.
I don't know what to tell you, dude.
Yeah, I mean, my response to the, you look at what's happening right now in streets in Haiti,
they're literally cannibalizing each other.
This is something you don't see.
Yeah.
Let's look at how we killed their former prime minister and installed a fucking government.
No one wanted it.
Do you think that if someone killed the president that people would be eating, eating in the
streets, we'd be eating each other in the streets in America in a first world country
and you know the best-
Yeah, yeah. you know that yeah yeah we think that would be eating each other you think the
president gets killed Simon Simon there's gonna be no government there's no
government in Haiti and they're eating each other in the streets you think
that's gonna happen in the US Simon what do I look like of course I don't think
that I know it for a fact I know that's what would happen.
Of course, of course. Because the president, the president dies and there's just going to be no government after in the US.
If the law and order breaks down, Simon, if our law and order breaks down, we're not
just going to eat each other, we're going to do their evil.
Hasn't it already broken down in major cities where the police don't even pull people
over now?
They don't even chase people.
It's getting, it hasn't quite gotten there yet.
They're shooting, they're shooting all the time.
I mean, it's, there already is, in major cities in the US,
the cops don't even do anything.
Okay, well, you haven't, you haven't seen a true breakdown of law and order,
if that's your standard, because
when it really does happen, we're not just going to be eating each other, we're going
to be mutilating our body parts and barbecuing each other in creative way.
Yes, maybe it works.
There's going to be people doing muckbang on TikTok
eating people's genitals.
And that's the type of crazy shit we're going to see here.
That proves my point even more.
The only way that would happen is that there was some sort of nuclear war where, you know,
every single thing to happen. It's the only way that would happen in that there were some sort of nuclear war where every single thing
is destroyed.
That's the only way that would happen in the U.S. or in any first-road country.
And these people are doing it because the president got killed three years ago and they weren't
able to create a government.
And since three years, they weren't able to create a new government.
And now they're just eating each other.
That's the point of making that, for a first-world nation,
for them to develop into that,
you'd have to have a nuclear war where literally everything is destroyed.
And they're doing it now. Simon, that's just not true.
Simon, that's just not true.
It's very easy.
If there's a breakdown of law and order for a country that has,
that is unified by literally nothing anymore,
to break down into total anarchy and total chaos, Liberia style.
It's going to happen here, and it's not just going to be black people and Mexicans doing
it, it's going to be white people doing it too.
And you're going to see that in your lifetime, I promise.
I don't think it's ever going to be that bad.
I think it's already happening. I think it's ever going to be that bad even though it's already happening.
I think it's already happening.
I think on Twitter, I think on Twitter, I think on Twitter, you look at the most lawless
areas in the US and it's all the homeless encampments, it's all the drugs, it's all
this.
Simon, I literally see how savage your own right-wing communities are to each other to know how so
how much you guys is Patrick Casey eating anyone is how much you guys swat in
docs and try i agree that i think swathing the docks and trying to kill each other.
Yeah, I mean look, you guys, Simon, people over the internet are trying to eating them.
People over the internet are literally trying to kill each other over their disagreement over ideas right now.
People are literally mocking and making fun of people getting killed
just because they disagreed with them about their opinions and shit.
The sanctity of human life, there's no regard for it anymore whatsoever.
I would agree. It's completely gone. So yeah, I don't think we're very far away from just
starting to eat each other, to be honest. And yes, I do think Patrick Casey would eat someone if he could get away with it.
I actually do believe that. I don't know about that. Well, I believe it.
Maybe you should debate him again. Maybe you should debate himthem again. Maybe you should debate them about this Haiti stuff.
Maybe you should stop running cover for the global homo and just understand that you have a responsibility to speak out against U.S. intervention in that country?
I completely agree. I think the number one problem is the U.S. government. I have no doubt
about that, but U.S. government could be completely reformed, completely changed. In the third world,
is still going to be the third world. That's the point
of making. You can you're free to have that opinion but until that opinion is
backed up with serious action against the US imperialist egemony you're just
running cover for US imperialism. I wouldn't say that at all.
Okay, well, when Biden sends troops to Haiti and you're just saying,
oh, it's their letter off for it.
I will completely oppose it. I don't think we should be involved in Haiti at all.
I think we should put a blockade around and prevent them
from coming to our airports and our our country and let them have self-determination
and if they kill each other or if they create a successful civilization let them
do it let them have self-determination. I completely agree. I don't want to be involved in Haiti whatsoever.
It's very generous of you, that's very generous you, but concretely speaking right now,
the US builds consensus for its interventions in Haiti precisely by dep depicting them as subhuman, non-human, savages.
I don't, I don't think that's the case.
And despite you claiming that you're against US intervention,
you're effectively spreading interventionist propaganda with the
bullshit you say about Haiti.
I mean, you could, you could just, you know you could just be silent about it, right?
I mean, what, what really is the point of, of...
Well, why would I be silent about something that's happening in Haiti
Which all of these Haitians are gonna come to the US and you're gonna see the same thing in the US from these people
That's the point. I'm looking at it from a non-interventious perspective of let them do whatever the fuck they're doing over
there, leave them alone, let them here. Simon, I don't care what happens in the third world.
If you don't care about what happens in the third world, you should be a little more
responsible about what your government's been doing there.
I just screwed the government completely. You can, that's very generous of you, but what have you done to stop them? I don't know what have you done? We are literally building online. Yeah, we are literally building the most cutting-edge, dissident counter-hegemonic movement in
the U.S.
And it's in the sense stages of development, that's what I'm doing.
Well, I hope you're successful, and you know, maybe one day I will join when there's a party
or a movement.
I agree with you on many things.
I like the show.
I just think that there's this sort of a general, I don't know what you'd call it, I mean, it's sort of a denial of reality, what you're seeing in a lot of these places where it's just total chaos.
It's not some sort of a socialist revolution in action or it's not going to lead to some sort of civilization.
Nobody, nobody, nobody, nobody, listen.
It doesn't need to lead to anything.
It doesn't need to lead to anything.
All that matters is how our government's meddling there has sustained the hegemony
here. It doesn't matter what happens to Haiti. That's up to the Haitian people. That's their business.
I agree. But when you say, but then when you say, when you say, when you insist upon Haiti's future,
what you're really doing is spreading interventionist propaganda, whether
you like it or not. I don't think I'm insisting on their future. I don't, they can
have whatever future they want. Yeah, it's very generous of you to say that. I don't
I don't want to say that. I don't want to say that. Simon, it's very generous of you to say that?
I don't control the US government.
All I can say is that let Haiti have its own self-determination.
I don't want these Haitians in the U.S.
I don't want the U.S. meddling in Haiti's politics.
That's all I'm saying.
That's very generous. I saying. That's very generous. It's very generous.
Again, that's the point. I think we're both in agreement. We don't want the U.S. meddling
there and we want the Haitians to figure it out themselves if they can, if they're able to.
So I made a tweet saying that non-Western peoples should not be scared of being called totalitarian or authoritarian.
And they should actually take control of their countries
because when you listen to Western liberal lies,
you can end up like Haiti.
And I made that tweet and your right-wing community
came and ratioed me and all this kind of stuff and tries to shut me
down and you're here in my VC now so who really has the problem you know you
didn't you're not even quite like how did we get here we got here because I made
a tweet talking about US meddling in Haiti and how it's contributed
to this.
Just to raise awareness about it.
Yeah, my disagreement would be, I think that regardless of of the US
It's so so you're here to defend US imperialism in 80. I'm not I'm not here to defend it
I'm saying that problem with what I said
But I think you're you don't acknowledge that's regardless of why do I need to acknowledge that?
Isn't that just acknowledging reality? Isn't that just acknowledging what?
No, it's not. It's not even true. It's not even true. But what's the practical consequences of acknowledging
that? That I, that I, uh... I think it's been realistic because once the U.S.
About what? About what? The U.S. pulls out of Haiti, the U.S. is not involved Haiti anymore.
I think it's, you have to be realistic and know that Haiti is not going to magically become
better.
It's not my business.
It's not my business what happens to Haiti.
By the way, your, what is the practical consequence of your racialist posturing?
Pro-interventionism, that's all it is.
I think it's the opposite.
I think it's saying like, these people are not- no, no, no.
I made an anti-interventionist Let them figure out the issues.
I made an anti-interventionist tweet and your right-wing butt-buddies got butt-hurt by it.
So, so clearly you have a problem with it.
I don't know if I put it that way, but let me just, let me ask you one thing.
I saw Buccelle
Hopefully I pronounce his name right. He's saying he wants to go into Haiti with with the UN and as long as they cover the
Hosts. What do you think of that? Or do you think Buckele is a good leader? Do you think he's cleaned a good leader? Do you think he's cleaned up El
Salvador? Do you think he's done a good job? I think he's done a good job in
El Salvador. I don't think he has any business in Haiti. I would completely agree.
I just thought I wanted your opinion, but yeah, um...
So I think, I think let's just summarize what this is.
Uh, because I refuse to acknowledge the inferiority of black people, this is some this that this means that US interventionism is
justified. That's really what this comes down to. I don't think US intervention is
justified at all.
The point I was making is that you can't look at everything and blame the West for all the problems of the world.
I think that the world is fucked up regardless of the West.
That's the only point of making.
There's a lot of leftists you try to...
Okay, Russia and China have been trying to upset that
Western world order
and they've been dealing with a lot of shit for it.
North Korea is Cuba, they've all been gotten a lot of shit for it. North Korea, Cuba, they've all been gone a lot of shit for it.
I agree.
I'm actually China.
So your speculation is stupid.
Your speculation is stupid and meaningless.
You can speculate about how a world freed from the grips of Western colonialism would look like,
but your speculation is cheap and worthless when the only few countries that are trying to overthrow the weight of the so-called white
man's burden have to move mountains to do it okay it's that hard to do it so
your words I making it seem like you know oh we're just helping all these countries.
We're helping them.
We're doing charity.
And it's like, no, there's a brutal unipolar system dominating the world that people are
moving mountains to try to throw off their backs.
And meanwhile, you're saying, well, even if they do succeed,
they're still going to be, there's still going to be shitholes.
Well, what does your opinion matter?
What does your opinion matter?
What does it matter?
Do you think that China is doing what it's doing because they just want to do charity?
Or do you think China has its own goals, has its own reasons?
China believes it's trying to do what it's doing in Africa, building all these bridges,
and doing all this trade and doing all these
things because it wants to free Africa or do you think China has its own goals in my
idea? I was actually going to answer you but like continue talking. No, no, go ahead.
China has a win-win foreign policy orientation.
They very concretely lay down.
Here's our interests.
Let's work with you.
What are your interests?
You scratch my back, I scratch yours.
That's their whole outlook.
They don't believe it on.
Aren't they taking over the minerals and the natural resources
for themselves? Isn't that part of the deals you're making? No. We'll build your bridges and
then we're going to basically take over your ports and take over these resources and govern.
No. That's true. No, the deals are good.
They're giving them good deals.
So none of the deals that China is making in after are in any way exploited.
No they're not.
China, all the deals the West are making are exploited.
They just all by the...
Yes, literally yes.
Again, I...
This is where I disagree.
I think this is a very simplistic way to view.
This is more simplistic to say.
Here's why it's not exploitative.
Because China doesn't interfere in the political sovereignty of African countries.
It takes the deals that it can.
China isn't the one that destroyed African agriculture to take advantage of those countries. China doesn't use hybrid economic and political means to meddle in their affairs.
China deals with whoever the government is there,
who else are they going to deal with,
and they get a deal that they consider fair, that they can.
And if that deal is not fair to Africans, they can blame their government.
Not China, but China had no part in installing that government.
China had no part in making that corrupt government in power.
That's the West doing. So the West actually overthrows governments in Africa, uses NGOs
to influence policy and create regime change in color revolutions. China doesn't do any of that. So no,
China isn't exploiting anyone. China is just dealing with whatever governments are there. That
it had no... No responsibility for installing. Well, you ask me like a percentage question. So,
100% of the deals that China's making Africa, 100%, it's just, you know, this is
going to help us, this is going to help you, it's not exploitative, it's not, hey, let's
make this deal to benefit us.
It's China obviously wants to benefit themselves, but they respect the sovereignty of those countries.
They're not installing governments in those countries to do the bidding.
I think that, I think you're mistaken because they're building a lot of this infrastructure
and they're running large areas.
They're essentially running it themselves.
Because they arrived at a deal with the countries in the first place.
They didn't coup their government and overthrow their government and then force their will on them.
But do you think any of these deals are shady or any of these deals are shady?
How are they shady?
Well, I mean, you make a deal with a country that's struggling with a country that, you know, can't really support itself, and you say,
hey, let us build your infrastructure and in return, we're going to like have your resources and basically have control over in large areas of your country.
That's a lot of the deals that China is making.
That control how? I mean, you're saying that China gets access to Africa's resources and
return to and for so, yeah, there's a lot of cases of that. But there's nothing wrong with that
if China isn't the one intervening in their sovereignty.
That's on the governments that exist there. It's not on China.
But that's not how the West plays ball. You need to understand that.
What the West will do is ensure that the government that's there is already favorable to them and then make an unfair deal.
China doesn't intervene in the political affairs of any country.
So whatever government is there doing these deals with China, China is not responsible for.
Because they had no part in seeing that government come to power in the first place.
Well, I do see, I do see where you're saying. seeing that government come to power in the first place.
Well, I do see what you're saying, but aren't they sort of, they're looking at these governments and they're making these deals?
Just because they're not cooling the existing government
doesn't mean that they're not making an exploited deal potentially.
No, it does mean they're not making an exploitative deal.
Yeah, I disagree that. Do you want China to do? Do you want China to force
these sovereign countries to make deals that?
I mean, no, China's going to...
Part of the deals is them basically giving up their sovereignty.
No, there are areas of their...
Yeah, name a single case of that.
There's no such case of them giving up their sovereignty
i disagree i think that uh... okay you disagree but i i i think your view it
it's sort of it's it's pointing out that
the west does evil The West is always evil and China
Basically does no wrong. Look, I'm pro-China. Trust me. I think I hate the US government
I'm pro-China, but I'm not going to deny that China doesn't do shady shit. It doesn't have their own interests at heart.
But you just can't name any deals.
You just can't name any shady shit.
Well I don't think saying that you're going to build a bridge means that you get to have
like half the resources of a country.
Those are the kinds of deals that China's made.
Okay, name one deal that's like that.
I've added to look up a specific deal.
There's no such deal, if you brought up an aid thing, I'd have to look up a specific deal,
according to which China owns half a country's resources in exchange for a bridge.
I'd have to look into it more.
I think you're denying China.
And China can actually be something.
You need to read at least five books before you say anything about anything relating to
international affairs at all.
Give me a book list.
Give me, what is the recommendation of books to read on this?
Really?
You should start with Michael Parenti.
I am familiar with him.
I've seen a couple of his speeches.
I'm actually familiar with him, believe it or not.
Okay.
So, look I mean, I watch your show, believe it or not.
Like, I get you think of like a neo-Nazi racist or whatever, but I watch your show. I find it very interesting. I just think of like a Nazi racist or whatever but I watch your show I I find it
very interesting I just think that's sometimes it's a bit too out there with
some of this third worldism stuff and I know you don't like that term and deny
that term that's not what I'm saying I agree with you that it's not third
worldism it's the belief that black people are also human.
I think they're human. I think everyone's a human being.
No, you don't. You think black people are inferior and that's the whole...
That's all this comes down to you insisting upon the inferiority of
black people.
That's what all of this comes down to.
And I wish you would just admit it.
I don't think every human being is equal.
I think everyone's a human being though.
Like that, not everyone is the same intelligence and the same, the same, the same,
I don't want to, I want to entertain this, writing or reading.
Simon, I want to entertain this.
Define intelligence.
What do you mean?
Like what the official dictionary definition? What do you mean by intelligence?
What is intelligence?
Because you just use that word. What does it mean to you?
Probably the mean to you?
Probably the ability to
learn new information
The ability to maintain and learn new information I'd say I don't know if that's the official I I think intelligence is quotient. I think that's what it's defined.
Great. Great. If intelligence is defined by the ability to learn new information,
we have a few things to sort out. First of all, you're not very intelligent.
You were exposed to a lot of information.
Very good, very good.
In this conversation alone, you weren't able to learn it.
But second of all, and more importantly, how do you know the intelligence level of other races when, for example,
they don't have access to education?
How do you even know if they're able to learn?
IQ tests are pretty universal and then you can look at the history, you can look at how
developed they are. Simon, I don't think you can look at the history, you can look at how developed
they are.
Simon, I don't think you understand what an IQ test is and I'm happy to explain to you what
it is, but answer my question, if intelligence is defined by the ability to learn new information,
how can you judge the intelligence of groups that don't have access to information
in the first place to learn?
I think you can also look at development.
Like different places are developed other than others.
Can you give me a clear definition of intelligence then?
You'd have to give me a clear definition of intelligence because then we can actually have
conversation.
Sure, read resident of Garastani's intelligence and spirit. And my definition is in there. But anyway,
I'm trying to ask you what intelligence is because I don't think you know what that word means.
I think you're just vaguely associating it with the level of human ability overall and it's it's you're
basically saying I think I think that has to do with intelligence I think you
look at I think I think just when you say intelligence you mean like more
human or less human less intelligent is less
human more intelligent is more human that's what you mean I wouldn't say that
say more advanced I'd say more advanced right right like more technology that's all
it comes down to really technology. That's all it comes down to really.
I guess.
Right.
I mean, look, IQ, I guess you'd like deny that IQ tests are like a thing or you deny
the validity of that.
I kind of understand why like Americans worship Steve Jobs is like a Pharaoh.
Because when you're such a retarded, dumbed down, undereducated population and you don't
understand how anything works.
When you're American.
I don't worship Steve Jobs at all.
When you get the latest iPhone every year, that's like God himself sending upon,
oh my God, this is, this is intelligence, this is advancement, oh my God!
It's like, it's literally like a cargo cult.
I think, I think, you're looking at the acceleration.
Versus literally not having the advance, you're looking at the rather predictable advances in Moore's law and all this kind of stuff.
These dazzling and marvelous new technologies being rolled out, you know, like on a yearly
basis.
And this notion of advance and progress in technology, like for for you this is like the essence of
what man and humanity is this is what a narrow ridiculous consumerist
understanding of it you have is it's like technology is just like human
advancement intelligence is just like when the line goes up and it's like
it's such a curious problem because for human history as we know it the line
was pretty stable in one direction and then within a very very small short
period of time it just goes up randomly like
exponentially suddenly right but you don't think you somehow think it's like
that thing of a man walking upright from ape that Darwinist illustration and then along the
way all the advances in progress with it. That's not, but that's not true at
all. The whole paradigm of technological progress began with the steam engine
and before the...
Technology has advanced exponentially.
Technology didn't even exist as a paradigm of civilization
before the steam engine, before the Industrial Revolution.
There were buildings, there was the ability to help the farmland.
Yeah, there was techniques and methods of production, but that was not,
that never acquired the status of abstraction called technology. Yeah, I'm not called technology.
I'm not seemously...
I'm not think technology is the end or be all.
No, I just don't think you understand any of the things you're talking about.
I think you're trying to associate a vague notion of the latest iPhone coming out with the essence of what it needs to be human.
The way you're talking about technology and stuff, have you read Nick Land?
Are you familiar with Nick Land?
Yes.
Are you against him?
That seems like you'd be very anti-Land then if you're against this
Technology something you're what you just said is it's sort of interesting Simon you don't have a very intelligent
Take away of what I'm trying to say here. I'm not against technology
I was asking are you familiar with Nick Land like what do you think you fan of Simon the latest? I don't are you familiar with Nick Land? Like what do you think? Are you a family?
Simon, the latest, I don't think you know what technology is. I'm not against technology.
I don't think you know what you're talking about when you talk about intelligence.
I sort of, I sort of see. You're the one that went with, you think intelligence is like iPhones and shit, like that.
No, I think that's what I said at all.
You went on this rant, you went on the rant.
I think that's what you think intelligence is.
That's not what I think though, that's not what I said.
You just want on this rant.
That's not what I said I don't I don't think intelligence it's I don't think Steve Jobs is the you know I think you see
it as like a god king Pharaoh who's like like he's the king of white people
along with Bill Gates and then like black people are at the I. I don't like Bill Gates either. I don't
like Steve Jobs. I think you think like the guy who like Bill Gates and Steve Jobs are
like the pinnacle white people and of the tech technological Brahmins.
Actually Indians are I never said that. And then black people are at the bottom because they don't have enough shiny technology.
And that's pretty much what anything. You're the other one going on this rant. I've never said any of that.
But then what what do you so what is intelligence then? Can you define it?
As I said, I think it's the ability to learn. I think it's the ability to learn because we established that would be an adequate description of how you're applying it because we don't know
anyone's ability to learn based on IQ test. That's not an ability to learn. That's an ability to take an IQ test, take a standardized test, it means nothing.
But it doesn't even, it doesn't even, it doesn't even, it's not even a reliable proxy for
how much fucking money you make. That's how pathetic it is.
This is making money a sign of intelligence?
Are you saying that if you're not... I would presume so, I would presume if there is an objective
thing called intelligence that's inborn, like how smart you fucking are, then yeah, it would probably correlate to your ability
to make money.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it would.
I'm encouraging people that have money.
There are people that come from families that have money.
Okay, that's not what I said though.
I said the ability to make money, not have money. I don't think the ability to make money not have money.
I don't think the ability to make money makes you intelligent.
I think you have to be...
There are scammers.
There are people that...
So are you saying that if I wanted to rob the bank and I came out of a hundred thousand dollars?
I'm intelligent. The problem is that there's no correlation.
The problem is that there's literally no correlation at all.
Don't you know there should be at least some correlation? There's literally none.
It only could... IQ only controls literally for the mentally disabled.
Nothing else.
I would agree. I think that obviously you give someone a test.
It only controls for people who have physical disabilities and nothing else. What about mental? Wouldn't it be mental?
It's but I'm talking about people literally born with like an extra chromosome
or an extreme neurological disorder. That's what it controls for. Extreme outliers. It doesn't control for any broad
tendencies in the population. Except your ability to be a pencil pusher who isn't making
a lot of money but gets a salary appointed within the corporate institution.
Because all IQ measures for really is your willingness to take standardized tests and nothing else.
And also the reason the test is literally something you can wipe your fucking ass with is because
you can do better on it next.
It's gamable.
You can game an IQ test and literally master the fuck out of it by doing it multiple
times.
That's why it's a fraudulent, worthless. It's not
a metric of anything, let alone intelligence, because it's gamable. There's no...
Well, I... You can say that. I think you can say... If I take an IQ test and I get 100 and then I game it and then I get 200 did I did my intelligence increase by 100 points?
No! So it's fucking meaningless.
You can say that but IQ tests sort of do, they do correlate with what you'd expect.
Like, you look at Asians, score the highest on IQ.
I think most people would agree Asians in general.
They're going by groups.
So that's how the IQ tests are the best at taking tests because they're the most focused on educate,
everyone knows that.
They're most focused on education.
So IQ only accounts for tests.
So by that definition, then blacks are the worst of taking tests.
That's all it says. When the blacks are the lowest IQs, that just means they're taking tests. That's all it says. One of the blacks of the lowest
IQs, that just means they're bad at taking tests.
Maybe it also means that black people are not as assimilated in our institutions in general?
I mean in America, blacks have been here 400 years, they've been there just as long
as whites.
Why wouldn't they be assimilated?
You please read a fucking book?
I didn't say how long they've been on the land.
I said they're not as assimilated in the institutions. You know there's a difference? Like institution means like a
specific standardized way of organizing people. This is the argument that a
lot of living on the land. This is the argument that the left makes.
They say that, well, there are certain questions in IQ tests that deal more with class, that,
you know, if you're like a poor person who's a key test, you're not going to understand
a question.
Simon, black people have not assimilated into the U.S.'s educational institutions.
They haven't.
I mean, you look at... you look at, you look at spending, you look at spending per student.
I mean, they're schools in, you know, like, I think Baltimore, Chicago, wherever, they'll
give them iPads, they'll throw, you know, $300,000 a year per student.
They're throw all the resources at them and they're not succeeding.
They're not doing any better.
Do you think a people's ability to be institutionalized is based on how much money you throw
at it?
Or maybe do you think it's based on...
I think that if you look at education, if you're going to a better,
if you're going to a better school, if you're going to, if you're getting more funding to your
school, if you're getting all of these resources, I think that can help you obviously.
If you're going to school in the mirror and millow where they don't even have
fucking pencil and paper, then obviously you're probably not going to get as good
with an education.
Dude, oh my God! You should give a TED Talk on this.
And what's the point you're making?
What's the point you're making?
Yeah, the point I'm making is that if you don't have any stake in the system
and if you're literally not part of it, if you're not part of the system in any kind of way, you can't be institutionalized
by it because you have no stake in it, because it's always a social contract that goes
two ways.
There's no way for you to regard the educational systems as a vehicle for your own advancement.
There's no way for you to regard the institutions of the countries as yours to take advantage of.
You rather see them as just an imposing presence, intruding upon your ability to
make a living, but not something that's yours. So that's the problem that black people
have had in America. And you're talking, oh, what about an African-American person? How are they
not? How are they not part of any institution?
You'd have to explain that.
What do you mean by that?
Because the premise, there's two ways in which Americans assimilate into the system, right?
One of the ways is having historical ties to the land in the form of land ownership.
Okay.
The final culmination of that was the housing reforms after the post-war period, which gave it to the Ellis Island immigrants,
could finally have a piece of the land with housing reforms, affordable housing.
Black people were excluded from it, by the way.
And the second form is immigrants who already come from strong familial and kinship networks who immigrate here
using the capital raised and conserved by these networks as a basis to build off of
and make a living.
These immigrant groups tend to be less loyal to the state, but more willing to
kind of career climb through it. A good example of this are Brahmins coming from India.
They're not necessarily extremely indigenized, they're not like very Americanized, but they're more
than happy to take advantage of the system using these kinship networks that
they bring from overseas. It's also true for a lot of Asian immigrants and
Middle Eastern immigrants as well. So this is generally how people
become part of the system in the USA. They have to begin from some kind of
excess capital of some kind, right, through usually through kinship relations,
through owning land, either in the U.S. or overseas, which serves as the basis of kind of going
through the system. Now, black people also do this, and they're Nigerians, Nigerian immigrants, top graduates in
the U.S. in a lot of cases.
They're very educated immigrants in the U.S.
And they're black.
They're actually blacker than African Americans Americans if you want to look at it
in terms of their racial admixture or whatever.
I see what you're saying. So that's a universal phenomenon, but when you don't have any starting capital at all to begin with,
there's a reason 40 acres in a mule were promised to emancipate its slaves because Lincoln understood.
We emancipate the slaves and they literally have nothing to build off of.
That's not getting rid of slavery, that's creating a surplus population of people who are just going to
have nothing and either, you know, enter into vagrancy or complete relations of dependence on others and it's going
to be a problem. They're not going to have anything of their own, that they own themselves.
So in the history of the US, there was an institutional exclusion of black people because after their emancipation
from slavery they literally had nothing that tied them in, that gave them a stake to buy into
the system.
So that's why you have these huge disparities more or
less, okay? There's more to it and all this other kind of stuff, but more or less
that's basically why, because they never actually had a stake in the system.
Now, when people talk about Africa, it's a completely,
African countries are a completely separate case.
Those countries lack sovereign statehood. They lack their own institutions to begin with.
They lack education on Amasca.
They lack mass popular education in many cases.
If you bring IQ tests to people who don't even don't even have schools, I don't know
what you, I don't know why you would think that would yield a meaningful result at all.
It wouldn't.
I see what we're saying.
I would just, I would push back like the Nigerian immigrants,
for example. Those are like the, you know, best and brightest from Nigeria coming to
the U.S. And I, I, I, I, I, I see what you're saying. You know, I understand what you're
saying. But I would say that you can say that but why
haven't for example why has an Africa why can't they build their own schools? Why
can't they just build their own? Because they don't even own their own land.
You need to own your own soil before you could do anything.
And that's why we support the EFF in South Africa, because they just want to own their own.
Yeah, that's, that's, this is actually, you know, that's actually the EFF thing, the South Africa thing.
I just, I don't get that, I don't get the focus on that
okay I don't know if you want to keep going we get I love to come back on again
we've been talking for two hours and I'm wearing a suit and it's kind of stupid
right yeah yeah look this was I this is actually a very interesting conversation I'm gonna and it's kind of stupid, all right? Yeah, no, yeah.
Yeah, look, this is actually a very interesting conversation. I'm gonna, you know, definitely, you know,
look into this stuff and, you know, I enjoyed it.
And even if we disagree, you know,
thanks for having me on.
Okay.
I actually, that last thing you said was very interesting.
Okay, sure, bye. All right.
Oh, this is crazy.
Also, in the 1800s Kumasi, capital of the Ashanti Empire, had more two-story buildings
than London, Europe's largest city at the time.
So there you go.
They've never had two-story buildings. I literally had someone just...
Right now I wasn't even checking the discord.
Uh, yeah, so that's that.
Anyway, the lesson of this is right wingers really hate black people a lot.
Jesus! What's going on, man? How's it going?
And I guess the conclusion we should draw from that is...
Not sure if that is,
I'm not sure if there is one.
But, uh,
we should keep fighting the good fight, actually.
To be honest. Thank you. Guys, I don't know how much this is in vain, but let's boost the fuck out of this.
Because not enough people are retweeting this.
Everyone should retweet it.
Literally everyone.
Boost the fuck out of this.
Not sure how much we could do.
But if we get this to our core audience, you know, on Twitter, we should blow this up. This tweet should be blown up, right?
Um, every single person should retweet it.
To spread it, because if we get it spread far enough, it'll blow up by itself.
Because, uh, yeah, this is like total fucking stupid bullshit.
Everyone needs to retweet the fuck out of this.
There's obviously more right wingers on Twitter than us, but there's also more third worlders
on Twitter than right wingers.
We need this to blow the fuck up, all right?
Because uh... spread it everywhere, literally everywhere.
Keep fighting the good fight.
Okay?
Let's see if we could do it. I'll link it again. Anyway guys we're going to sign off it's been a great it's been a
great going to sign off. It's been a great it's been a great stream. Getting naturally
ratio. No I'm not they're spreading it in their group chats and we don't
We don't have the same level of solidarity they do with each other. I'm not even in any group chats myself
Our rose Mads. What's going on? So we're just gonna, we're just gonna spread it ourselves.
And we may fail, but it's all right.
Uh, because we want to raise awareness, most of all.
That's the most important thing.
That's why I'm doing the stream to educate.
In any case, I'll see you guys. And happy Ramadan, Ramadan Mubarak.
Anyway, anything else I wanted to say.
Haven't seen Dune 2 yet.
As soon as I do, I'll do a review of it.
I do have a book to finish, guys.
See you later. Bye-bye.