Democrats Are Mobilizing BROWNSHIRTS

yo

look at this shit man

damn

look at this microphone

look at that oh my god

look at that

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this shit looks good

damn richard met hers type shit in here

you know i mean

i look angelic

i look angelic

i look angelic afro-asiatic

mediterranean quality

angel of the seas

and i'm looking angelic as hell on this

bitch

y'all welcome to the infrared webcam

matter of fact i need to look more

professional give me a sec this ain't

professional now i wanna go i'm gonna

look a little bit more professional for

this shit man

based

damn

excuse

me damn it's already coming in hot with

jammer who's got that 10. thank you so

much jan i appreciate you man it's

already rolling in coming in hot with

this new camera oh my god turn up the

heat in this bitch damn i'm professional

as hell i look like a professional i

look like a real one i look like i look

like i could be on the news

kind of look homeless

the way my i gotta trim this beard i

gotta trim this beard this beard see

when i laugh when i do this

it kind of makes me look homeless you

know what i mean i gotta trim this beard

but other than that you know what i'm

saying i'm looking i'm looking fresh as

hell damn

damn i'm looking fresh as hell we gotta

wear a collared shirt

collared shirt for this shit man

i'm gonna oil nothing

we mean business today shit man

ladies and gentlemen welcome to the

infrared webcast we're upgrading our

shit in here

looking fresh as hell

4k hairline

we got a 4k imma upgrade my hair imma

upgrade everything everything is going

to be updated the lights the microphone

everything welcome ladies and gentlemen

savior in the moment savior in the

moment he unbuttoned this shit

savior the moment look look at this look

at this 4k

4k quality

woohoo that looks good

welcome to the infrared webcast ladies

and gentlemen because today you're going

to be experiencing

an experience

like you never had before now i could

complain that i got zero hours of sleep

and i spent all day going back and forth

to best buy

it was i had such a horrible day i'm not

lying i had such a fucking

horrible fucking day

all right and there's bad news too

so i paid 248 for this boom mic

and the boom mic is worse than the yeti

so i shut it off and i'm just using a

fucking yeti now

so that fucking sucks

and then i went to best buy to get

supplies and they're like yeah we don't

have

the adapter we don't have a micro hdmi

adapter and i went back and i ordered

one from amazon

and then thank you does this haircut con

07 and then i went back to best buy

because i forgot i needed an extender

and they did have a fucking micro usb

thing so i just wasted money on amazon

i had a horrible day

i had a pretty horrible day if i do say

so myself

but i look good

but i look good

i look good i look fresh

but we're not going to be lying in here

and telling mythologies and telling

half truths

we're going to tell the truth

damn

my fucking

head hurts

my eyes hurt my head hurts i did not get

any sleep i cannot sleep something's

wrong with my circadian rhythm

something's wrong with my ability to

sleep so i'll be promptly taking edibles

tonight possibly i might i don't know i

don't think i am

thank you anonymous

for a dollar fifty

appreciate you man

appreciate you

appreciate you

oh

shit looking very sharp tonight both the

beard and haircut is a 10 out of 10.

thank you knox ed

don't worry i'm coming in hot as hell

coming in hot as hell damn

we're soldiering on tonight

we're doing a long march

through the topic of tonight and we're

gonna be doing a twitter space as well

debating people and shit

but damn i'm gonna give you a double

salute motherfucker

coming in hot as hell

chairman

appreciate you

chairman is that a slur i don't know

what that means

but thank you man

it's professional in here man

again professional hey what's up guys

i'm haz from the infrared webcast

afro-asiatic mediterranean mail today

we're going to be reporting the news and

talking about topics of serious concern

a lot of things are going on around the

world see i'm a news presenter news

broadcaster

as you can see my swag is impeccable

as you can see my swag is untouchable as

you can see

as you can see

as you can see but since darg is

throwing dollar bills in this bitch you

know what i'm saying may as well

what i mean may as well reward the chat

with the little something you know what

i mean

damn

look at this

look at this

bruce lee in this bitch

i'm bruce lee in this bitch damn look at

this look at this look at this bruce lee

in this bitch look at this look at this

all night 100

natty

in this bitch

i'm bruce lee

damn i look good damn this is what i

look like chad why don't you tell me

damn i look like this

i look like this damn why don't you tell

me chat

all this time i was thinking i was

looking like the logitech stream cam

y'all didn't tell me i was looking like

a sony

i didn't tell me i was looking like a

sony

they put this goddamn

shit on man

and tell me i was looking like a sony

i'm keeping it colored up like this

keeping it colored up

oh we're not getting too informal i'm

keeping it colored up

and this shit looks better to be honest

damn i look good damn

okay this is a good camera i did not

know how it was gonna look to be honest

i took all day setting it up

i took the whole day setting it up but

here we are

here we are and this is the real house

look at my eyes though you see this this

is pain chat you see my damn look at my

eyelids

oh my god you can see how

y'all see the pain i've been going

through

with the insomnia

you can see the pain in my insomnia man

this is imagine how it feels right now

you know what i mean

damn

how do i fix this man

my eyes are fucked up man what is that

shit

oh man that's bad

that's bad

that's pain

that's the pain i've been going through

man with my insomnia

that's my painful insomnia the woes

those are the infrared woes

i didn't know i could see the pain on my

face man

i know you could see that

that's okay

inshallah i'll sleep tonight shall i'll

sleep tonight

but

thank you chairman fig

thank you so much man remember guys

emperor thank you thank you so much for

the five remember guys it don't trigger

unless it's a solid five matter of fact

i'm gonna change that right now that's

that's a that's a scam i'm scamming you

guys with that

five even shit

so let me uh go ahead and set it to 4.99

because

that's unjust that's unjust so alert box

super chats

based

thank you so much boyd burns having

infrared vision thank you so much boyd

burn appreciate you

appreciate you so much man

all right

all right it should work now

so you know all y'all with your fives

thank you emperor thank you with that

4.99

untouchable drip infrared rising cpu

2036.

thank you chairman they appreciate you

it's not a slur it's a typo that's stuck

as a username camera plus haircut looks

great

understood understood

um

damn

i do look good i do look good

you look good

this is what high quality living looks

like you know what i mean it's what high

quality

aesthetics look like

you know what i wish

i wish

that i could just buy myself some sleep

in the same way okay give me one sec

give me one sec hey give me one sec

so guys that shirt was not the move

but let's see what is more befitting

for a high quality

presentation should i wear this one

let's check it out

good morning revolution good morning

revolution

good morning revolution emirio

how does this look

how does this look

i promise i'm too wide man this shit is

a little too long but it's just wide

enough and i get it if i get it smaller

it's not wide enough too wide i

understand

but you know

that's how we're living today i think

this is a good cozy vibe i think this is

a good matter of presentation

but i'm gonna cut this beard

yeah i'm gonna cut this beard hundred

thousand percent

i might just shave it all off

not go clean shaven but go down to

stubble

like how i usually do it

because i'm not digging it i'm not

digging the look of this beard

all too much

welcome

welcome to the infrared webcast ladies

and gentlemen

welcome to the infrared webcast

sponsored by joe sims

he is 100 secretly on our side patriots

in control

uh so don't worry about that joe sims is

supporting us yeah i just can't tell you

that in public

because you know it'll cause him for

trouble with the rank and file but joe

sims secretly supports us don't worry

about that

right

don't worry about that anyway

without further ado

um

i was gonna review a carlos mata video

today

but i think what we're gonna do instead

let me see how the chat looks on street

on screen

how does this look

you know what i wonder how this would

look

does this look good

but y'all think does it look this look

good

uh nobody likes this

nobody likes this look right

yes this is not good not working

you guys like this one better

which one you like better this one or

this one

i think you like this one better

or this one

like this one

the bigger one or the smaller one

okay one for the bigger one two for the

smaller one this is the smaller one so

one for the bigger one two for the

smaller one

yeah he always split down the middle

what am i supposed to do with

that what the fuck am i supposed to do

with that answer

everybody split down the goddamn middle

okay

i can't do anything with that

i

i gotta pull i gotta no i can't pull it

because we have a light pole and by the

way like the fucking stream there are

literally 323 people watching this shit

right now and there are only

282 likes and that cannot run i'm gonna

start randomly banning people in an

assorted lot

and you know it's gonna get ugly so we

wanna make sure everybody is liking the

stream by the way the age of yellow has

is over yellow house is over this camera

does not do that yellow bullshit so the

age of yellow house is done that's dead

and done and done with forever

but you know what i mean

i think i'm going to keep it this way

i'm going to keep it this way i'm not

going gonna do it the other way because

i can't even tell

the crisp quality of this camera i mean

oh man look how beautiful

look how beautiful this is hey hey get

back in focus

why are you blurring me

there we go

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this is the age of the infrared webcast

oh shit we're gonna have a lot of fun

we're gonna have a lot of fun okay we're

gonna have a lot of fun with this new

camera

and yeah

the things it's capable of

all right now i got the professional

quality but i'm not acting in a

professional way i'm acting in a rather

ridiculous way right i'm not acting in a

way that is befitting

of the professionalness

that that you're seeing on on the stream

and and maybe

maybe that's a problem

maybe that is regretful maybe that is

not something we should be doing and

setting a precedent for

and yeah i know i have like a a a a

weird fucking thing on my nose i don't

know what the fuck that is and it looks

gross and i understand that

i understand it looks gross

but you're gonna have to bear it

you're gonna have to sit there and bear

it

and we are streaming like this for the

rest of the stream by the way

we're doing big head haws

from now until this gets old

so we are streaming like this for the

rest of the stream we're doing big big

head has for the rest of the stream

okay

you sound like white man when you say

inshallah are you white by any chance

pretty decent politics for white amber

heard lover love to see it fam what the

hell is that

what the hell is that i sound

i sound what

i'm an

afro-asiatic

mediterranean male

i'm an afro-asiatic mediterranean male

and i don't love amber heard because she

shit in the bed and that was a deal

breaker for me

that was a deal but i said that was the

deal breaker for me i said i don't care

about the rest of the shit she did i

don't care about anything amber heard

did

everything she did is fine i would still

play whatever that's fine but when she

shit in the bed

that crosses the line

hey

there we go

that crop

that crosses the line

shit up

shitting in the bed that is too much

okay

and amber heard i like to think amber

herd is thick is she thick i look at her

face and i'm saying she must be a little

thick is she thick i don't know

she her face looks like it you know you

know how you can tell sometimes just by

people's face

that they're a little bit thick i think

she's thick is she

is she

she's not

she's not then what is the hubbub about

she's not

then what's all the hubbub about she's

otherwise very mediocre like she's not

her face ain't all that so what is the

hubbub about

well i thought there was all this hubbub

going on

i thought there

i can't fucking believe this

i i can't fucking believe this shit

i can't fucking believe this shit it's

the fucking door get the fuck out of

here you dumb ass door

now we're good

so anyway

what was all the hubbub about if she's

not thick then why was everyone talking

about talking all this stuff dude is an

arab and a labor aristocracy denier all

right void bird thank you for the ten

but you are spreading misinformation

i'm an afro-asiatic mediterranean male

damn what is this

i cut myself

let's hide it

good morning revolution good

morning revolution knox said

good

morning revolution

it's crazy how you guys can just see my

hairline

and i just will let you see my hairline

because my

my facial structure makes up for it so

you can see my real hairline

and it's not pretty it is definitely not

pretty

but

my facial structure makes up for it

right so anyway

we are going

this is so fucking weird this is so high

quality

this is so high quality

and who who else

streams with this big ass head like this

you know anybody who streams with big

head

you guys are up close and personal you

are so lucky

but you know it's serious today you know

it's going to be serious you know the

topic is going to be serious and i'm

doing some avant-garde shit i'm doing

some cutting edge shit by doing big head

hogs and it's avant-garde it's cutting

edge nobody else is doing it i'm getting

the monopoly on it 10 000 viewers by the

fall

so get used to it this is some

cutting-edge shit some breaking news

type of shit

and i want you guys to watch this on the

biggest

screen you have if you have an 80 inch

tv watch it if you work at a movie

theater hijack that movie theater and

watch this in the movie theater because

this is like big brother you know that

movie 1984 with a big ass head of big

brother is in front of everybody that's

what i want the vibe for this to be big

brother has brainwashing everyone

because this is a cult remember that

this is a cult

so the biggest screen you can find watch

this on i want my head to be as big as

possible if y'all have access to those

new york square

the new york uh town square whatever the

fuck that shit is where they have those

big ass screens and shit every single

one of those should show this stream

right now

my big head

dictatorially

every single one of them should show

that

my big head dictatorially

speaking to the masses

speaking to the masses i'm getting up

close and personal in your face

unapologetically

without any retractions

without any hesitations

this is hd movie quality

content

this is hd

movie quality content

and you are indeed strapped in for quite

the show tonight

and you know the debates are going to be

serious this is serious stuff

because you could see the sweat pouring

down my you this is going to be this is

going to be high pressure high intensity

debates we are not playing around

tonight we're not joking around we're

not messing around and this is how we do

our streams from here on out with big

head big head haws

any objections

any objections

why is this not playing

i'm watching this on my built-in video

screen in my g-wagon

and you can afford it now

jackson

you can afford a goddamn g-wagon now

you can afford two of them

that's what you gotta do get get your

mansion

get two g wagons

and one of them just reserve it for

whenever i come to la

and we'll you know

we'll have a convoy

all through l.a

we have a big-ass convoy going

damn

a g-wagon convoy

a g-wagon freedom convoy across the

country

can you imagine that

can you imagine a g-wagon

freedom convoy across the country

you would take over the government the

government would collapse there would be

so much drip

and so much swag

in that convoy

it would be like it would be like

who's that dude in africa who had all

the gold

what is that dude's name

monsa munsa that would be like manso

munso rolling in through

so much glamour so much excellence so

much

bountifulness so much

wealth so much extravagance

so much

ostentatiousness

throughout the country

amansa musa

g wagon convoy gold-plated rims

silver gold every color

throughout the whole country

just rolling through

that's what communism will look like

it's not going to look like

you know a bunch of punk rock crusty ass

anarchists it's going to look like

ostentatiousness it's going to look like

excellence it's gonna look like a g

wagon rolling through the country

okay

it's gonna look like a g wagon

rolling through the country okay

but anyway

um that guy carlos speaking of matzo

musa

that guy carlos matzah

he's becoming more and more i want to

talk about this for a second right

so i showed you his twitter today

i mean yesterday

i showed you his twitter yesterday

and you saw how he's openly calling for

violence but what's really weird is that

he's not getting censored for it he

keeps doing it he's doing it today as

well it almost seems like they're doing

establishment sanctioned violence

they're like

they're like trying to justify their

violence within the language and the

vocabulary of the establishment and that

is what i find terrifying

because if you're secretly doing

violence whatever right you're just

going and breaking windows and shit i

don't give a fuck right

but when you start trying to plan for it

and legitimize it discursively and be

like oh actually my professor like this

is okay according to my professor i'm

trying to convince the public forum

in public even though this is illegal

right to accept this oh twitter

corporations we need to have a debate

about whether violence is acceptable is

it acceptable to grab a baseball bat and

go like break people's legs and shit

let's all sit around on our board of

corporate trustees and twitter and

discuss this

and if they give their okay for that

kind of violence

and they say oh yeah that's allowed

you're allowed to fucking engage in that

level of violence

you know how fucking terrifying that is

you know how fucking terrifying it is

that these people will not only be

engaging in violence they've always done

that whatever violence is nothing new

but it's going to be sanctioned by the

establishment it's going to be okay

going to be allowed

what is that if not the brown shirts

wasn't that the brown shirts and the

black shirts where they just be started

to legally

you know or extra legally justify

this obscene excess criminal violence of

the state these people are worse than

cops they are the police

of the globalist ruling class

absolutely sickening happily singing

congested give me a second

i support the professor big heados arc

gorilla sun gorilla sun gorilla sun

this shit looks sick as fuck

this is the infowar this is the info

this goddamn it's still shit in my

fucking nose give me a second

all right there's a big

booger

i got rid of

all right and and and rocks off

thank you roxol i didn't miss that i

didn't miss that

i support the professor big heados arc

gorilla sun gorilla sun gorilla sun

yeah anyways what i was trying to say

was basically um

what's what's in my text

the hell is this

how do i how do i rotate this

it's it's got to be more

it can be all black they got to be more

ostentatious silver and gold

but this looks like secret service

that looks too much like the secret

service this one's got to be an

extravagant

ostentatious display of wealth and

luxury and

excess it's got to be like you know

we're talking oil prince levels

um

oh i'm itching my nose is itching so

give me a sec give me a damn second

all right anyway guys this is the first

time i've gotten a new camera in the

morning

good morning revolution america

appreciate you man guys it's the first

time i've got a new camera in one year

so this is a big deal and this is big

news

one year

first time getting the new camera in one

year

all right

pretty impressive right anyway let's

continue talking about what i was

talking about

um yeah this this

attempt to sanction violence

and justify violence

like has your lab you're scared of

violence that's not what i'm talking

about dumbass i'm talking about

when it's being

legitimated through the official social

democratic institutions

that's fucking terrifying that's not

just spontaneous violence anymore

that is like

terrorism by the social democratic open

society ngo institutional complex

yeah that's fucked up that is genuinely

fucked up

if you can't see the difference in those

two things i don't know what to tell you

carlos matzah is openly on twitter he's

like we needed the violence isn't that

who is the necessary for carlos you're

saying this shit in public

you're saying this shit in public

what

what video are you talking about let me

check this out

let me check this out i did not see that

video

what video are you talking about

um

what video are you talking about

this one

what the fuck is this

all right

check this out man

y'all check this out

[Laughter]

all right we're keeping it this way

y'all check this out

all right

just big hogs all right

we're doing big haws big head hots all

right

but check this shit out man

check this shit out up close and

personal we're not playing around we're

not playing games

we're not playing around we're not

playing games right but check this shit

out

check this shit out man

is

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why is my camera looking a little bit

yellow

oh it's fine

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jackie jackson the fuck

see this is what this is just this is

just the peak of desperate i mean we

gotta look tougher than putin boris

you're fat ass you don't look tougher

than nobody man

and

look if every single one of these dudes

took off their shirt

they would still not be as fit as putin

is they would still not be as built as

putin is

if every single one of them took off

their shirt

putin would literally take them all on

one by one so let me let me explain to

you putin's strategy for fighting each

one in every one of these people right

so the

how putin would deal with biden

is that he would just kind of

putin would just kind of like grab biden

a little bit and then slowly push him to

the side and then biden would like flip

and

flip in like a cartwheel

and he'd basically you know he'd be

unconscious all you had to do is grab

him a little bit grab him a little bit

very gently and just gently put him a

little bit to the side but he'll just

fall over and shit right

and boris all putin's got to do the

boris is pretty much

got to take that belly he's going to do

that fatal belly attack

and then with macron

that one is even easier right in order

to deal with macron

all putin's got to do is you know he's

got to uh

he's got to uh

bribe him with 80 year old pussy because

my crown loves that shit okay

my crown loves that shit so all putin's

got to do is say oh yo my craw i know

this i know this irma

you know i know this uh fine

looking irma

she's you know 79 years old my crown and

we don't gotta fight if he

saw he's gotta do okay

so that's that's easy

that's that's easy stuff

all right anyway um

look at this this is fun

of the 21

2163 super pacs that have raised money

for the 2022 election cycle 36 received

most of their money from so-called angel

donors

guardian angel donors have poured

284

million into super pacs for the 2022

midterms

okay

they contribute more than 40

of the total

raised by a super pac in some cases

raised by super pac

okay

in some cases super pacs are virtually

entirely financed by an angel donor

the vast majority do not raise most of

their money from single source

2 000 whenever super pacs tracked open

secrets raised over 1.1 billion and

spent 232 million so far

during the 2022 midterm elections

congrats on the new camera looks crisp

thank you margie appreciate you

appreciate you so much guys check this

shit out check this fucking crazy insane

shit out right

this is fucking incredible

they have literally spent

1.1

billion dollars for these 2022 midterm

elections guess how much of that goes to

social media do you know how much money

they've spent

trying to dis discredit and troll me and

ratio me and shit you know how much of

that money is go toward haas

at least five percent of that money has

gone toward has alone

at least five percent of that money has

gone toward me alone

me jackson and samira

they gotta expense i mean there's only

so much money you know

you gotta spend it somehow

you've gotta clearly spend it somehow

so yeah and then check this out right

let me show you how else this money is

being spent

um

hold on we're going to return back to

that article i just want to show you

something pretty fucking insane right

we're going to return back to that

article so don't worry but check this

out this is actually pretty insane

uh it's insane because of how funny it

is

okay

so remember how i told you that majority

taylor green accused aoc of an

insurrection so alexandria ocasio-cortez

who is uh indigenous and jewish and

black by the way if you didn't know

she says i will explain this to you

slowly

exercising our right to protest is not

an obstruction of congress

if one of those highness enough to do

that they'd literally seek a pardon

but only one of us has done that and it

ain't me

she clapped back so hard and ain't me

oh man

we are all americans and we believe

in democracy

the democratic party we are watching cnn

and msnbc

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aoc said it ain't me and then stephen

colbert was like wow and then you know

they were all those late night talks

show hosts were thinking this was such a

great comeback and such a great own the

anchors on cnn words and oh man

you know what guys you know how in a

fucking like

in a yo mama rap battle or some shit a

motherfuckers are motherfuckers all

around on the fucking sidewalk on the

street and these are all pretty much you

know these are all just normal dudes

you know these are all just fucking

street people

just normal people

and then somebody said oh your mama's so

fat that she ate a whole jar of

mayonnaise like oh

shit right

what aoc said is the equivalent of that

for um

59 year old wine moms were liberals

liberal suburban wine moms uh the cnn

journalist class

all these fucking like academics oh

shit you got her

aoc right but for a normal person this

isn't a good this isn't like some big

clap back

this is a fucking yo mama clap back for

a fucking urban glasses wearer

not for a normal person

okay

so

that's what that is this is not this is

not a comeback for a normal person this

is like this is something you would

expect twitter employees

and people working at cnn and people who

are in education you know in academia

and shit they would find this like a

huge clap back right

but weirdly enough

so remember what i said right weirdly

enough this tweet got 650 000 likes

650 000 likes

do you guys believe that because i don't

i personally don't believe

that there are 650 000

different people

who clicked like on this tweet i think

there was probably a total of 1 000 real

people who click light on this tweet

just the entire

um staff of msnbc cnn the young turks

like all those people they clicked like

but the rest are bots this is the most

botted fucking tweet i've ever seen in

my life

this is the most spotted tweet i have

ever there's there has no i've never

seen a tweet that was more

inauthentically

presented as representing oh this is

what everyone thinks man everyone agrees

this is such an own no nobody fucking

thinks this is a known

absolutely no one thinks this is a

fucking own this is the most fake shit

i've ever seen

this is the most fake shit i've ever

seen okay

i don't know i don't have too much faith

in people it's the opposite

i think people i think most people

don't give a fuck about politics i think

most people

like to sit on their couch

and watch netflix

and they don't give a fuck about any of

this right so that's i don't believe 650

000 people like this tweet i just don't

you can believe it

that's fine there's a lot of people who

also believe in dinosaurs

and they you literally i'm not even

kidding you show these people a t-rex

and they're like

oh yeah that totally existed that was

totally a real thing

they don't ironically believe it right

so man if you want to be one of those

people who believes in dinosaurs

uh that's fine if you want to be one of

the people who think that this tweet

actually that that 650 000 different

people

actually spent their time

clicking the heart button on the street

you can believe that too i'm just not

one of those people i'm not one of the

people who believes

there's like a 30-foot fucking lizard

with big legs

and now they're saying it has feathers

it's so fucking stupid i i you could be

one of those people who believe that i

don't fucking believe it okay

um again it's two types of people in

this world there's there's people who

are have the courage of just saying you

know what that's bullshit i don't

fucking believe that and there's the

people who are like

feel nice that is

you can call me whatever you want

you can call me a conspiracy theorist

i don't care

i i personally don't believe

that this is real right and speaking of

conspiracy theories

speaking of conspiracy theories this is

fun

so check this out

check out this hilarious tweet

so first i had a true tweet right

seems like the people in power are

trying to provoke another summer 2020.

it does seem that way right

does it not

does right

what i'm about to show you is going to

be really funny but first i have to blow

my nose give me a second

it's about to get funny guys

it's about to get really funny in here

ready

right-wing conspiracy theories hinge on

the idea that all of the resistance seen

from marginalized groups against the u.s

is actually something a hidden elite

wants by positioning their resistance as

part of ruling plot it justifies

reactionary opposition to those groups

reactionary opposition

to marginalized people

there's these marginalized people

they're like forest fairies they're like

forest creatures and they all come out

out of their homes and it's a bunch of

fat

poc trans people

on wheelchairs they can cut down their

ramps on their homes

marginalized groups are all coming out

to protest because of their oppression

to us

it's all marginalized people

in fostering

reactionary opposition to those groups

cars

that these marginalized people

i mean

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the fifth column cosmopolitan take that

stalin stalin was a fascist

the rothschilds the masons

anything to avoid a class analysis and

invent a shadow enemy to justify

reaction against the pressed groups

the end result of all such theories is

the real ruling class the one that

actually caused the resistance of these

marginalized groups by impressing them

is led off the hook

and instead recruits reactionaries for

the side of the ruling class to fight

that very resistance nazism

nazi

everyone's a nazi shut it down

if you think i'm exaggerating check out

the fucking races in orbit what is this

shit

what

what does this even mean okay you know

what i can't cover for this what does

this even fucking mean

the gorillas

what what

bruh okay somebody asked abe what the

fuck he meant i don't know whose guy is

but

you know people you know a lot of people

just add these fucking

globes to their profile pictures and say

they're rolling with us i don't know

what the fuck this guy is

i don't follow this guy i don't know the

fuck he is

so yeah i don't know what the fuck that

is

what does that mean what what what

actually does that fucking mean i

literally don't know is that trying to

be racist

is i don't get it

unless he's talking about like the

harambe 2016 shit

like but that wasn't real

why is this a gorilla dude why did you

yeah that's we we we don't do that shit

okay

forest diversity

white replacement theory the list goes

on and with these types of fashions

theories which the pet socks are

increasingly cozying up to

even cancel culture political

correctness exist at the tip of the

iceberg

you talk about cancer culture and

political correctness you're talking

about white replacement they're a

things as simple as black or lgbt

representation in media are seen as

dastardly ruling plots rather than mere

ruling class concessions

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the lgbt people are raging in the

streets and it's scaring disney so much

that disney is adopting lgbt in their

movies because they're scared of the

lgbt people raging in the streets

the degenerate mass is being led by the

conniving jew to undermine the moral

pure uptight civilized nation

the right-wing pushback against

multiculturalism was exactly

it's a culture is also this white

genocide life

an invisible hand you talk about cancer

culture that means you're talking about

why genocide

invisible hand jews sorrows trying to

purposefully push the great white nation

out of media to appeal to the degenerate

anti-nationalists ethics and gains

it is so so exactly nazism the advances

of the oppressed are repackaged

and the agenda

of a shadow elite not class the booze

onesie is not in the ruling elite it's

not

that hates the nation

the point is to whip up reaction right

now to those forever in defense of the

ruling class against the fox elite aka

oppressed groups like jeffrey epstein

who was a poc male and was oppressed

oh

okay so guys all of that in response to

this tweet i typed one sentence

i typed one sentence

okay and i even put a question emoji

and all of that is this

we got from that we got all of this okay

all right and it got 700 likes

he got 700 likes

all right

so

i think samira's down here somewhere

yeah

so samir is like okay

nice nice essay

but meanwhile here's here's like george

soros himself the u.s supreme court's

decision to overturn roe v wade and

federal protections for abortion

diminishes human rights foreign

productive care we have invested in

reproductive rights organizations that

are fighting back

at this moment

he's i i'm sorry i didn't know you look

you you made a big

essay about like how we're nazis and

we're talking about

jews and and whatever and

we're trying to like stop the

marginalized groups or whatever the fuck

you're saying okay but here's george

soros himself and this is literally what

he's saying okay and then samira also

linked some shit

uh because i responded to it

uh and i said

yeah so that that was samira here

and yeah look

so inside the dems plan of road fares of

voter turnout blitz

and the articles talking about the

democrats are like

pouring hundreds of millions of dollars

into all these ngos and groups to lead

protests progressive lawmakers call on

voters to protest back

democrats in midterms

uh if you remember this

uh dcc executive

director christy roberts said in a

statement shared with politico this on

the ground organizing work will help

like democrats will fight to protect

women's rights make sure their own

health care ensure the gop scroll agenda

okay so we have that and we also have

the fact that everyone knows that the

democrats

um

could have codified roe v wade into law

for 20 years and they didn't okay so

that there's is that a conspiracy theory

right and then um additionally there's

also something i showed you yesterday

but i'm going to show it to you again

in case everyone forgot and had a short

memory um

so yeah this is it

so look at this democrats launch

organizing hub to channel response to

the supreme court abortion decision i

mean there's also a lot more right if

you want to look at 2020

um

you have so this much money was being

poured by bill gates the open society

the ford foundation and the rockefellers

right into left-wing causes and this is

the right-wing causes that that are the

billionaires funding the right right

here's the koch brothers templetons the

waltons and the devos right so

this is like the ruling class supporting

leftist organizations this much in 2020

compared to right-wing groups this much

in 2020 okay

so

i guess what i'm trying to say here uh

if it's not clear

already

um

is that this is like a pretty big

stretch

like you wrote a whole essay about this

when what we're talking about is facts

we are talking about facts we are

talking about paper trails very

transparent paper trails

we're talking about like literal things

that if i confronted you with you would

not be able to contest them

um

i can prove to you that there is no

spontaneous resistance from marginalized

groups and that when you're talking

about resistance from marginalized

groups you're talking about very

methodically planned and organized

protests and demonstrations

that are done

by non-governmental organizations

activist groups

um

institutions parties like the democratic

party right

which all are somehow united by a

singular progressive agenda and a

progressive cause now you can say that

globalism is a euphemism for jews uh i

can just do a materialist analysis and

say that globalism represents the

superstructure of the american empire

that grew in excess to the bourgeois

republican institutions that came from

1770 1776

right there was this new global

institutional whatever net state

department cia ngos rockefellers

whatever after the postwar period this

is all very easily documentable stuff

all very transparent it does not hinge

on pathological

uh conspiracy theories whatsoever it's

all based on facts i could i could be i

would be happy to walk you through it

rocco

um

but you decided to like do this like

weird psychoanalysis instead and talk

about how like oh yeah you're just

trying to

um

rocco i don't think there's any

resistance coming from marginalized

groups you're trying to make it seem

like that people on the basis of

their marginalized identity are just

pouring into the streets spontaneously

and that is far

far from the case okay that is not

what's going on at all

and that can be easily proven so i don't

really know what kind of fucking point

you were trying to make here

yeah so this is just a really weird uh

thread

which doesn't actually address

anything

uh that we're trying to say

like look at this like

what are you talking about dude

why do you bring jews into this yeah

there is a global banking

cabal uh it's not primarily jewish

but even if it was why would that matter

right

uh it's it's really a matter of a

materialist analysis like the one lenin

did on imperialism where he privileged

the significance of banks um i mean i

think you should read that book dude but

is this guy a marxist leninist

so it looks like they have the yeah it

looks like they would identify as a

marxist leninist

which is weird

because they talk about the fifth column

cosmopolitans

which is a phrase that comes from this

the stalin era soviet union

but anyway this guy is uh has the flag

of the donetsk or i don't know is that

the lugonx

people's republic and that's lugonx

right

or is it a variation on the donetsk

i think it's a variation on the donetsk

right

yeah that's a variation on the donetsk

right

is it

yeah lugans is the white red and

green let me see is it

images

public

yeah

wait

yeah i'm right i'm correct wait am i

it's kind of hard to tell because is

that black or is that dark blue

is that the luhansk

yeah that is the luhansk yeah it's hard

to tell because

this yeah this is blue honks because

this is actually dark blue

but it looks black so it kind of threw

me off

yeah that's the lugongs

whatever right

all right if you go to luhansk

and ask people about who the ruling

class is

they are going to talk about globalists

they're going to talk about bankers and

they might even talk about other stuff

that you wouldn't be comfortable with i

recommend talking to russian communists

for once in your fucking life the

overwhelming majority of them

have way more spicy views about that

thing than i do right

um

sorry to burst your bubble

uh thinking that you know oh

marginalized crabs

what the fuck up dude

by the way our pride parades allowed

pride parades in lugonsk

okay

lgbt writes in lugonsk

it should tell us about lgbt rights in

the lugos this is

the ussr

status of you from the lgbt community

has been affected

uh they were branded as a fifth column

of the west

they lack civil rights

he said it was a propaganda plot

said we have done nothing of the sort

the death penalty no definitely

introduced they're not killing people

that's propaganda

but

well needless to say it's not a bastion

of lgbt rights let's just put it that

way it's really not

um

so i don't know why are you wearing that

what about them dude you're calling me a

fascist or whatever calling me a nazi do

you even know what the people in this

place think

dude who is this guy rocco

okay looks like he has two articles

and he's like china ban crypto finally

yeah but they're gonna use it

this is clearly like a lib

right-wing liberal kind of guy who's

like

yeah i don't want people to have crypto

because it's a way to like get rich

without getting salary through the

social democratic institutions that i

call the base of the working class like

academia and shit yeah suck a dick dude

fuck you

fucking fraud

marginalized groups

by the way

if they're marginalized

why why do they acquire such

significance

it's like a contradiction in terms

why would the marginal group have the

most significance in your view

if it's marginal it's on the margins

of society that's like the lumpin if

you're gonna use that word right

marginalized means like lump it that

doesn't mean like some fucking

revolutionary subject or something what

are you talking about

let's go back to this article

based

thank you that flag is a pride flag the

polyamory flag with a red soviet star in

the middle for fun

ah absolutely chris thank you for

reminding us to be inclusive

uh in some cases super pacs are financed

by an angel donor

liberal super pacs get the boost from

their billionaire founders

democratic mega dorner soros is

currently the top individual super pac

donor for the 2022 midterm elections

he's contributed

126 of the 155 million angel donors

have given to liberal super pacs

it's worth 8.6 billion the billionaire

poured 125 million into launching a

super attack the democracy pack 2

which contributes millions other liberal

super chats could send a majority pack

in the house majority pack rather than

make ads by themselves

a soros spokesman told open secrets that

democracy pact does not spend all 125

million in this cycle oh thank god

he can't provide an exact number but he

said i thought it's going to come out of

the level of the last cycle

last cycle was 81 million

and this one received 11.5

he also contributed a million to the

color of change super chat super pac

uh

bloomberg contributed not much right

how much are conservatives raising

it's raised 21 million

so that's not nearly as much and yeah

these are all peanuts

peter thiel poured 23 million

uh

so yeah this is not coming close to

soros's numbers

at all

15 million from jeffrey yas

so yeah the liberals are like dwarfing

yeah like bloomberg contributed

98 million that cycle yeah so this is

just very clearly

okay

so i mean yeah that's just

is that an anti-semitic conspiracy

theory

ah

is that just anti-semitism guys i don't

know

i think it's just facts

i think people are trying you know what

i love about western leftists they love

to like psychoanalyze everything when

you're talking about facts you'd be like

yeah the sky is blue and they'll be like

the reason you're saying the sky is blue

is because you think blue is a euphemism

for jews and you're saying the sky

actually represents evil in the world

he's trying to distract from the

marginalized groups and protect the

ruling class by calling but motherfucker

the sky is blue because you know it's

it's factual right are there no facts

anymore everything's just a euphemism

for some psychoanalytic

you know what i mean

boundary

boundary

boundary

boundary

i look beautiful man

look at me man

i look beautiful i look angelic

i look angelic i'm jinxing myself i'm

gonna start looking ugly over time

but i look angelic you know anyway

let's get this show on the road guys

let's start this up

let's start this thingy up

start these twitter spaces up

i'm naming this two thousand dollars if

you can beat me in a debate

and we're doing that

i'm going to share with the tweet

all right i'm tweeting this out

it should be easy money

this is gonna be

funny

easy why the hell is there only two

people in here

look at this

two people i thought there was more

everybody leave

did everybody leave this bitch

what happened

what happened

what's up with my eyes

look at my eyes

so this is what my eyes actually look

like

you cannot see any whites

all right

hi

ladies and gentlemen this is going to be

the easiest two thousand dollars of your

life because we've got a guy

who the fuck is that guy this sock dem

account he claims that i'm a social

democrat he claims haas is actually a

social democrat so-called pad socks are

actually social democrats so if you can

actually and if you wonder what the

criterion for this is

the criterion is you just can't

contradict yourself you have to

consistently

hold to your claim

and i'm just going to ask you questions

and confront you with whether or not

they can be held to be consistent

and you know if you do if you get to the

point where you're like no

uh x is y and a is b

you know you that's like i'm gonna

disqualify you you know that's that's

where i'm gonna come in as a judge

but if you can just otherwise be

consistent i'll give you two thousand

dollars right show that i'm a social

democrat and and and by the way you

can't say oh london and milo and stalin

were also democrats you gotta begin with

the premise that those were communists

and that i'm actually a social democrat

by comparison right i will give you two

thousand dollars i will give you two

thousand dollars come up here and argue

that successfully

on my work

on my damn work

okay

so yeah that's all you gotta do

that is all you gotta do

so

without further ado

let's get the volunteers in the building

get some volunteers in here

some challengers to make this easy money

to make this easy bread two

thousand dollars ladies and gentlemen

that's like half of what i make in a

month okay

so i'm not playing around

i'm personally not playing around but if

you think

you know

i'm pretty confident that i'll be right

but

a lot of you seem like you're more

confident than i am

because of how much you obsess over you

know

saying the contrary all the fucking time

so if that's the case

this should be some easy money i'm

thinking this would be some easy money

um two thousand dollars

absolutely easy easy easy peasy money

piss easy

all you gotta do is

consistently show that i'm a fascist

uh that i'm you know this i'm that all

this shit y'all talk on your twitter all

the time uh if you want examples i'll

give you examples right

i give you examples if you want them

so rocco calls me a right-wing

conspiracy theorists

that's rocco 64 and he got 700 likes

okay

that should be easy money

sock dem liberal els

says haas is a sock then if we're using

the definition right most twitch

socialists i put on the account

classified definitionally

as sock dips

okay

and he got 300

300 likes no he got actually way more he

got 538 likes

so since he got 503

likes

uh you should be able to like argue that

okay definitionally

imma sock them definitionally

everybody else is a is a patriotic

socialist go ahead and see if you can

consistently maintain that claim okay

now jekyll is coming up

and taking up the challenge for this

easy easy money easy money jekyll easy

hey money up

what's up jekyll

all right so you're here to claim this

money

ah okay

well thanks for wasting our time thank

you for wasting our time all right and

by the way guys remember you're here to

beat me in the debate you're here to

actually win a debate

you're not here to just be here to say

hi and just dilly dally around

your thumb in your ass you're actually

here to actually debate and win this

debate all right now who's gonna step up

y'all y'all are congregating around all

these tweets

500 likes 1 000 likes 2 000 likes 3 000

like 5 000 likes this should be easy

this should be easy for how audacious

y'all are on twitter all the time but i

literally am offering you two thousand

dollars if you're so confident in the

way y'all have been tweeting and the way

y'all have been liking

you should step up and claim this money

this should be easy business for you

this should be easy quick work

and i'm not going to yell over you i'm

not going to yell at you i'm not going

to do all this shit you're accused i'm

going to let you try i'm just going to

ask you questions pretty much i'm going

to ask you questions and i'm going to

confront you

with

you know

what you have to say about certain if i

perceive a contradiction or say well

what about this contradiction how do you

resolve this contradiction what do you

have to say about it you know so i'm

gonna i'm gonna be very much just very

pensive here

and i'm gonna let you go ahead and argue

what you gotta argue so manchuko

candidate

go ahead

go ahead you hear us claim your two

thousand dollars

go ahead and get rid of that shit from

the back yeah i can hear you

yeah i'm echoing in your background bro

get rid of that shit

i want to have sex i want to have sex

with you

so

listen they

y'all gotta do better right y'all gotta

send your people

it should be easy money this should be

easy y'all gonna troll okay troll

they look missing out on two thousand

dollars easy money

this guy isn't this this guy who's like

touch grass all right this is the the

ass toucher so he's telling people to

touch ass

and that's sexual harassment by the way

but he he goes around telling people

that they gotta go and randomly touch

people's ass so why do you think

everybody's got to be doing that what's

your reasoning

why are you here to claim the money

i'm chilling

i'm killing dude how's your sunday night

going man

are you here to claim this two thousand

dollars

yeah actually i am here to claim it's

two thousand dollars sorry i was fucking

around i i did not hear you did your mic

did break up a little bit in the

question what were you asking

okay

so what what's the debate you want to

have or do you want to do the thing

about i'm a sock them or i'm a fascist

what do you where how do you want to

pursue this

no i wanted to say uh here's what i want

to debate twitch

what the fuck why did you disconnect

i i my hands have been on i didn't

disconnect him

he disconnected himself i had nothing to

do with it okay

why is this dude disconnected

all right

so he disconnected himself and now we've

got

timmy trill he's here to claim this

money

so go ahead timmy go ahead and claim

this easy money

easy peasy two thousand dollars right

yo what's up

all right timmy you here to claim this

two thousand dollars

dude

uh

all right yeah i'm i'm here to claim

this uh this two thousand uh dollars

so what what uh

do you want to argue that i'm not a

communist i'm a sock then i'm a fascist

or whatever

i wanted to argue about music actually

if that's okay

uh what what what are some of my public

stances about music that you want to

debate about

dude

i want to make the point

my point is that rap music is cool and i

want you to debate me about rap music

well i i agree that it's cool so i don't

really think we have anything right

about that

okay so that that was that and i'm just

where's all those people from twitter

where's all those twitter people that

always i mean listen you lose nothing

it's not like you got it's not like i'm

gonna take two thousand from you

you have two thousand to gain and

nothing to lose except your dignity and

you know listen let me tell you guys how

fucked up this is these motherfucking

leftists on twitter

they literally have an opportunity to

claim two thousand dollars but for them

the very high chance

that i'm going to win the debate and

prove that they're full of shit

makes the risk reward shit you know

balanced in the favor of of risk that

there's too much risk involved

the risk that i would win a debate and

prove that they're full of shit

and don't know what they're talking

about

makes the possibility of getting 2 000

easy dollars not worth it can you

fucking believe that

two thousand dollars this should be easy

money

i mean look you have money to gain

and before you say oh is we're gonna

play a dirty trick

all you have to do is just be consistent

i'm not i'm not going to be the judge

arbitrarily you just have to be

consistent

if you can prove you're consistent here

you get

two thousand dollars just be consistent

i'm not gonna say oh you're wrong

because i feel like you're wrong

no it's whether you you're consistent or

not and i'm gonna ask you yourself if

you're consistent right

uh my voice is breaking up on twitter

okay

let me actually see if this has

something to do with the

like

audio

okay no the microphone is the yeti so

the mic should be fine actually

mike should be fine

i think the mic should be fine

so

yeah this should be pretty easy

should be easy peasy lemon squeezy

so anybody want to step up and take this

money

does anybody want to step up and take

this easy money

nah bruh you gotta be an op okay it's

gotta be ops only

ops only okay so

we um

how do i deny this request

bro request denied how do i

deny it we got two people requesting to

speak

lenny okay lenny's going to get some

easy money

go ahead lenny easy money

yo lenny you're here to get this easy

money

okay great

so this is you're asking me you're

asking me how i think how are democrats

brown shirts

yeah okay

democrats are brown shirts because the

way in which the democrats while

fundamentally entrenched

in a bourgeois liberal state

are resorting to extra-legal

sanctioned forms of violence

to me that is adequately comparable to

what fascism was and what the

brownfields were

didn't commence do that

they did not

communists established a violent

proletarian dictatorship and smashed the

state machinery

and the violence that they were engaging

in came from the people not from

institutions didn't come from ngos

didn't come from billionaire-backed

institutions it came directly from the

soil of the people on the ground

grassroots the bulk of the red terror

during the civil war was grassroots

wasn't coming from the high the the

topped up they smashed the bouzoa

liberal state they did not and moreover

they did not endow that terror and that

violence with the status of legality

that was a limbo state which the state

had completely collapsed and they were

violently trying to reforge the basis of

some kind of state power they didn't

somehow

sanction it with the you know they

didn't give an institutional sanction

with all these social democratic

institutions and ngos and and the open

society so it's completely incomparable

but i mean wouldn't the brownshire say

they were doing it for like german

people or whatever well they could say

that that's fine but they were still

taking as their premise and operating on

the basis of the legality of the

bourgeois liberal german state

gotcha oh that's it man i might work

anyways take care okay

all right now we have i hate every

single one of you

all right easy money every i hate every

single money easy money

go ahead and get this easy money

yo yo

yeah

like

i'll debate you about ottomanism

and like i'll pay you 2 000 if you win

all right what about

my stance on ottomanism do you want to

challenge

that ottomanism is based

okay so

uh is ottomanism a monolith or are we

talking about the pre

uh tasman whatever you call them reforms

from the 19th century no i'm calling i'm

calling more like the modern phenomena

well i oppose oh you mean like uh with

erdogan what are you doing in syria

generally like erdogan and like turkeys

like

i'm against turkish nationalism so i

don't really think that's based do i

think people coming together and uh

embracing the common culture from the

ottoman empire

you know uh

i think that's cool but i don't think

it's that justifies turkish chauvinism

where they're gonna go into the middle

east and pretty much you know cause

that's from turk that's that secular

turkish nationalism so you know i think

that's different

yeah yeah but would wouldn't you say

that the common ottoman

like identity too comes a lot from like

everyone kind of hating

turks um

it does stem from everybody not from

hating turks but from rebelling against

the young turks so the young turks had

their turkish nationalism so everybody

else was like okay we're gonna have our

own nationalism then that pretty much

destroyed the entire civilization

but if you can look past all that shit

and can i see a comment i think there's

more of a common civilization

that's there that's not nationalistic

which i do think is something you know

worth

um

you know

contemplating and reflecting upon but

what does it mean for the middle east to

have its own state and its own

civilization

you know it's not necessarily the turks

in power but it is this kind of common

legacy of the ottoman empire which i i

think there has not been any recovery

from

now i wouldn't say so either because i

want to be real bro

like

turkey generally isn't its own sphere

like it's in its anatolian sphere

there's the mesopotamian sphere and it's

the ironic sphere i'd say and there's

arabian

you know

yeah but

see the the turks have been in our own

sphere because of uh young turk urban

kind of reforms which was confined to

their big cities but

the the anatolian kind of rednecks in

turkey

have a lot more in common with people in

the levant

and in syria and also you know

throughout the rest of the middle east

it's kind of like that fella whatever

they call it the fellas right the fella

deen

it's that kind of i wouldn't say so bro

i'll be real i think other turkey erased

any common uh civilizational ground with

the rest of the arabs

it seemed like he did in the cities

right and not in ankara and istanbul and

stuff

but in the turkish countryside those

people are

similar i mean that's why erdogan got

into power because he he uh he had those

people as his base

yeah but wouldn't you say that the

countryside isn't even like that turkish

anymore it's like kurds usually

and my other like

nationalities uh well the turkish

national identity was an urban

it was an urban modern european project

which excluded probably the majority of

people living in turkey i would say

you know we didn't kind of conform to

this modern european identity

whether they're turks or not right i

think the that's what that's what i'm

trying to say is that the different

groups in the ottoman empire they

weren't nationalities they were also not

dimmies right the idea of um

of a dimmy based on nationality that was

from the 19th and 20th century before

then it was based on religion

and you know people spoke different

languages and stuff but they didn't have

these like hard distinctions national

identity they have family lineage and

tribal lineage and shit

but not ethnic

yeah i think it's very modern and

brought in by like shady freemasons like

i'm aware of this absolutely yeah the

young turks freemasons they're all

freemasons

yeah european worshipping freemasons and

so on but i'm just saying that this

whole thing

is why turkey is disconnected from the

rest of us and that's why they're

pushing for nato expansion and

destruction of the rest of our countries

yeah that's what i'm trying to say like

you know i'm not down for the the

so-called neo-ottomanism because

it's fake and it's just disguising the

turkish nationalistic chauvinism

which you know obviously you know if

you're going to have a turkish nation

why not an arab nationalism why not a

persian nationalism or you know kurdish

and if you go down that road you're not

going to be able to build any common

civilization

yeah but would you wouldn't you say that

it's too late with turkey

uh i don't know

i honestly don't know um

it's an interesting question is it too

late is it not too late

i mean uh i think you you look at russia

and china the russians had their own

ethno-nationalism

chinese had a han nationalism

and maybe something in the middle east

will work itself out where people can

come to a common identity

beyond ethnonationalism

whether it's based on islam or based on

something else

uh some kind of common civilization

but as long as you have that

ethno-nationalism it's not going to be

possible

yeah but for example everyone says he's

doing it out of islamic grounds like

he's like

yeah i'm the sultan bro

he he says that but then his ruling

coalition government

also includes the secular and atheist

right-wing turkish nationalists who also

control the military to the extent of my

knowledge

so he does not really have full control

of that state and that's why he's you

know he's got to have the policies he

does with azerbaijan

and elsewhere and he's also making

friendly with israel and shit because he

does not actually control the whole

thing he's not a sultan he actually has

to share power with these secular and

atheistic nationalists

you know that whole thing leads into

like the turkish deep state which is in

itself very

very shady and people do think that they

made some weird deal to like

yeah we will push this new autumn and

islamism but we will also like uphold

turkey center nationalism and nato

that's

that's why it's not trustworthy if

you're trying to do both you know then

you're making the islam stuff just a

fraud

because you know that that that nato

aligned turkic nationalism it's nasty

stuff right

that shit is uh basically kind of

neo-nazism

and it's very much based on an

ideology of racial purity

and blood and shit and yeah that is just

satanic shit

yeah but i saw like one of your videos i

didn't really see it right but it's like

about the turkey and the recent nato

situation with scandinavian countries oh

yeah i know it's also good when there's

contradictions in nato

i don't know how optimistic you can be

about them but you know i think it's

cool that turkey

did that

uh does that mean i trust turkey or does

that mean i'm you know no i'm just

saying it's it's it's nice when there's

division in their ranks you know just

yeah no but my whole point with that is

uh

turkey is being angry at them is that

they want more expansion for themselves

regarding like in a way they're

affecting

they're more of a positive force for

nato in that sense

they're like oh we let's win and finland

join if they let us

do all this shit against stickers and so

on and we can like yeah you might do

operations in iraq and syria

you might be right but it still does

cause internal contradictions you know

uh yeah but what i'm my point is that it

doesn't cause it like

it's not like turkey is having like

genuine concerns about its sovereignty

or anything it's that no i know we want

to expand nato more

yeah i know i know

i'm aware of that i'm aware that they

you know they want

yeah it's just the internal

contradictions in nato you know on the

one hand they need they want the fins

and the

tweeds to counter russia and then on the

other hand turkey

thinks that you know it's more important

to focus on the middle east so

just chaos and disarray you know

who's not would you say that turkey has

been a positive force for russia

in any way

in any way i mean relative to what you

know i think turkey's been a kind of

negative

uh force

but also positive compared to the

western

countries

but i think a lot of that has to do with

turkey's location

and not necessarily it's like at the

black sea yeah yeah i think it has to do

more with that

but you know turkey was supplying those

ukrainians with their biroktar drones

and they also made claims yeah yeah

you know they made claims turkey has

always been very anti-russia that's like

a whole geopolitical thing they have as

well

yeah i think they kind of have to

pretend to be friendly

because their close proximity makes the

possibility of war

or conflict very possible right so they

have to just

come to an agreement temporarily

probably

okay so like if neo-ottomanism is not

really the answer right

what happens when

there's like obviously there's always

like some factions right so obviously we

have like the turkish entire life

faction

we have like this

egypt emirates saudi-led like

i wouldn't call it a secular wave but

that like this weird like warlords they

will support in a lot of countries

or you have um

like the

like the

iran

like access

well i i don't i don't know i think

i think a big issue is that

the

turks

seemed like they were positioned against

that saudi access

but then

shit started to change you know turkey

got more friendly with israel again

and you know saudi arabia seems like

they're kind of warming relations a

little bit with turkey

so i don't know what happened exactly

but it does seem like they're not really

turkey's not really an independent

turkey and qatar don't really represent

some kind of like

new acts i still think the real

contradiction is still between the

mukawama and

those arab uh countries right

egypt and saudi arabia and the uae

so

at this point you know i think

if turkey and qatar were serious about

their

confrontation with saudi arabia and the

rest of them they would have kind of

joined

that mukawaman you know because the

mukama can't represent the future for

the whole middle east because it's

mainly shia right

and exactly yeah it's not going to be

able to turk so turkey does have a

unique opportunity to represent

the sunnis

turkey and qatar or whatever but you

know if they were serious about that

they would have

they would have joined that axis of

resistance

which they didn't so yeah you know but

you you remember

like

i don't know much when you started

following this stuff right but like i

remember at least that during the 2000s

like after 2006

qatar was very loved by like

the shias in lebanon same with like

turkey was raised media wise a lot

a lot of money yeah they poured a lot of

money in lebanon

it was like promoted that these guys

were supposed to be like allies almost

you know same with morsi in egypt

yeah yeah

so yeah the thing is it's like there's

like a very weird thing with this i'll

be honest like at the same time with all

of this

like we can see in like libya

except for like syria they want to

luckily be overthrown

yeah that it was really syria that was

the big division

because the qatar turkey muslim

brotherhood access

you know they wanted uh

they were against assad

the problem with them is that they you

know they ended up allying with

this the other gulf states

then america right

i think you know

i think uh the the main issue is

they they didn't they didn't really um

have the balls i think

to just say like yeah we're gonna like

join the axis of resistance you know

venezuela recently joined the axis of

resistance

and joining the axis of resistance

doesn't mean

you're gonna agree with iran and syria

and them about everything it just means

that like you know okay when push comes

to shove we're against the american

empire we're against israel

and we're going to work together

at least to further that common agenda

right

but you know because of sectarianism i

guess they didn't want to do

that now my my take is not even that i

think tata and saudi are straight up

american puppet states i don't think

they can even like do anything i think

i've always suspected qatar probably is

connected with uh the globalist wing of

the u.s state

like you know the cia and the fucking

state department

oh a thousand percent they they are

literally a military base

yeah the democrats whereas i think the

saudis are more tied to the department

of defense

and you know the kind of

republican wing of the um american state

so i think that it's they're both

puppets of america but just different

factions

yeah yeah

so do you think that like

for example turkey's future do you see

do you think it will even have any

future because my prediction is that the

turkish republic will not even exist

like

in some decades in the future yeah

eventually when nato collapses turkish

republic will not be even able to last

there's too many church there's too many

i think it will internal issues i think

i think most middle eastern states will

to be honest

like like which ones like saudi arabia

yeah i mean saudi arabia

and iraq

maybe even syria definitely lebanon

you know uh lebanon is they're already

doing with lebanon bro they're doing

like all like they're trying to divide

three that's the plan

yeah yeah because ironically maronites

were always against that they were like

no we can't divide anything because like

lebanon is uh for the christians and we

don't want to like divide it along

sectarian lines

today uh samir jaja will go on about uh

we need a christian canton so

christianity can survive somehow

yeah i i think

i think basically that the middle east

should just

probably go back to the old provincial

to define its borders like you know

syria iraq

hijaz

um

that's just for the the i guess that's i

didn't as far as oman and yemen and

stuff i don't i can't really say

but i think uh like countries like

jordan lebanon

israel and palestine you know

are those real countries i mean i don't

kind of seems like it's just syria you

know

excuse me like syria is the only

historical state in that region huh

with yeah yeah syria is a very ancient

country yeah yeah alongside uh iraq

right idaho syria and

those two seem to be like the only real

countries in lavon the rest kind of

seemed fake to me um i mean do you know

uh mustafa atlas's famous uh quote

regarding these borders he said that uh

jordan is actually just southern syria

there's no point he's right he's 100

right about that

yeah yeah on ironically yeah but this

brings into like uh another like big

question to this right like all

legitimacy

of these borders and and so on

what about like um

not i don't know whether it's like speak

out or if it was

the lausanne

treaties i'm not sure if i pronounce it

right

the famous one but i'm talking about

like the ones prior to it when uh you

know like the winners of over one are

supposed to get land right because like

that's a song or they're divisively good

morning revolution yeah yeah a lot of

them got rid of scam bra

they're like oh yeah the syrians are

going to get a state they got zero

yeah yeah a lot of scams

and their arabs obviously got scanned or

they turned they just turned into

colonies straight up

yeah kurds were supposed to be moved to

brazil and that was like a whole

whole thing

yeah i mean

do you think like these uh nations for

example right because there's like all

these tiny nations

and peoples

um

do they even have like i know you said

like for example that nationalism

in in the region is kind of retarded

because like it will just turn like a

million people against each other yeah

but like wouldn't you say that in

certain cases right like let's look at

iraq right for example

in iraq you have you know obviously the

sunnis and the shias and the

kurds and so on it's a very simplistic

way to put it right

but if you look at the iraqi kurdistan

region for example

you have um

like you have like other nationalities

within within iraqi kurdistan

and what do we see we see like for

example that the u.s state will um

put all money and everything to curtify

the area from other

minorities and so on

what happens if like these minorities

you know do an uprising like now we want

our own nation because like you know we

can't put up this shit

yeah that the yeah the that's the issue

with nationalism nationals in the middle

east

it's it's a fraud it doesn't even unite

people it just establishes

a hierarchy of tribes so in kurdistan

for example

it's not like there's a kurdish nation

which is like above all the tribes which

is traditionally what nations were

supposed to do nations were ways of

unifying people and destroying tribalism

right

but that's not what which you see you

see a

a head family or a head chief

and then you just have this hierarchy of

chiefs and tribes and families

descending from that

so nationalism is just a it's a big con

it's a big scam it's not even like a

real way of uniting people you know

um

i think the only way you can unite you

can have a

real thing in the middle east is if you

have a power that really does

go at the expense of the tribal system

if you can have a real universal state

that does not recognize any distinction

in tribe

that will be the first step for progress

in the middle east you know

that tribal shit is really

the problem

yeah yeah it is

but would you say that like national

liberation against that is like

is that like even considered like based

or is that supposed to be like some form

of like further vulcanization

in the region um it just depends on the

context you know there's there's never

an unconditionally good or bad

type

but so it depends on the context but

generally

the nation has the unifying factor

i think that one of the things i like

about the mukawama is is that

it's persians and its arabs

and it's in addition to that it's also

like these other minorities

in syria right it's like these other

groups

it just seems like it's it's like this

is this act i know it's not adequate but

it's like this axis that somehow goes

beyond

ethnicity and nationality

you know

and even yeah but they have a common

ideology i'd say i'd still say they have

a common ideology which a lot of people

in the region won't really share

no you're right we're right although

in in the axis of resistance there are

also

people who are not shia like there's

also christians

and sunni you know

with you know

palestine yeah but for example i can be

honest here the christians in in the

axis are pretty like

like in my community they're very hated

not because they're in the axis but

because they put the access above their

own people which people don't really

like which country are you in

um i'm from syria right but like

i'm speaking generally for all all

people from my community right so

there's the ones in iraq there are like

for example there's this one guy called

ryan caldani right so he's like this uh

like buddha-backed like christian guy

but he he actually just replaced all

their seats like undemocratically

because in the quota systems in iraq

shias can just vote for anyone

so they could just vote and you know

uh represent that there's four

christians

uh i see

yeah so that caused like a whole issue

yeah i still think that there's too much

sectarianism

and that the mukalamos will not be a

adequate framework

but

the one thing i do like about it

is

that it is above

nationality but it is still sectarian

because of religion but that is still

true

um

yeah i mean i think the solution has got

to be some kind of uh

you know

some kind of

i like to say islamic

but i'm not saying islamic in a strictly

religious sense just in a civilizational

sense something that christians can also

be a part of too right

there's clearly this common civilization

different from europe different from

asia

and

that needs to be somehow tapped into

and i actually do think

there could be potential for turkey

to step in

and you know represent something there

if not i don't know

i used to be hopeful with that but i

think turkey kind of

as long as it has the republic it will

never go through you're right about that

yeah that no of course there would have

to be a huge change that happens and you

know what maybe pakistan right maybe

pakistan can play a role

um

maybe something can go on there right is

you know the pakistani state is the only

state

that was founded on the basis of just

islam

yeah yeah that's a state that was not

founded for any ethnicity

it it wasn't founded even for any like

national nothing it's just just islam

that's was the whole basis and also

non-sectarian right

the yeah the islam didn't care if you

sunnisha sufi whatever there's just this

common islam so i think pakistan

actually will play

a very fundamental role or it'll have to

right

um yeah

but loki doesn't that cause them to have

very weird geopolitics though sometimes

yeah like they'll just deny or mean even

existing they're like fuck these fuck

these guys they're fighting azerbaijan

they don't exist

i don't know i don't know

yeah they don't recognize armenia

they're the only country on earth it's

it's one of those like very weird

phenomenas

yeah that

i i didn't know that that is pretty

weird

but um

yeah that's that's another problem with

that azerbaijan armenia conflict is that

it is being portrayed by some as an

islamic conflict and it's not

because it's based in turkic nationalism

versus armenia nationals precisely yeah

so it's not really

to me there's no reason to make it

religious

right so i don't i don't understand that

but um

yeah okay i'll ask you one last thing

before i dip then right yeah

so speaking of azerbaijan bro

what what what are your thoughts on

haterism

i

i keep hearing about i don't know any

i'm just not educated i don't know

anything about it

bro like hey there ali is bro like you

like

sigma dude

uh

no

i i'm done

he's the dad of the current retard but

like he's more based he's not like the

it's not like the sun

i gotta i gotta look that up so

what what is that like what's that whole

thing

uh more or less

um hey the olivier was like this kgb guy

who was close with andropov

and like he did all of this corruption

for jason shit right like he was very

serious

uh but he was more or less supposed to

become

did

of the ussr

but funny enough um

when andropov and shannenko died they

picked gorby instead and gorby purchased

him

so

he could have been the leader of the

whole ussr

yeah he was he was getting through the

software he's like a polio bureau and he

studied like market socialism in hungary

so he was actually looking into how the

system worked

that probably would have worked out very

well what was his view what was his

relation to the military

i mean dude he was literally in the kgb

he was like the head of the kgb of

azerbaijan like he was a very serious

like high level guy

that would have been based

and if it helps more this guy was in

charge of the middle east affairs

on top of it

so everything the ussr did in the middle

east regarding you know a certain

zionist state yeah he was he was the guy

behind it

yeah

but then what what happened when um

what happened when uh

you know azerbaijan became closer to

israel what was that all about

yeah because like basically what

happened was after

azerbaijan

left the ussr and so on they were led by

pan-turkic like pro-western

elements basically

and had olive kind of did a comeback

where he came to azerbaijan as like a

nationalist and so on

and he kind of cooed everyone

and then his whole thing was like we're

gonna have a neutral policy and we're

just gonna be like

you know let's stop this war with

armenia we're gonna like rebuild shit

uh let's not be angry at russia we

should like have a friendly relationship

with russia

and he went with this line more after he

met putin because like putin was like

you know former kgb you know sigma

grindset as well

so they were like yo it's like a g you

know like they're meeting up again

um and then his son went full on close

with israel his son was very weird

yeah that that that would have been

based

it's a shame yeah it's it's very sad

actually but there are people who uphold

them

like for example i can be super honest

right now rtsg upholds hey there alive

it's like the main

ideologue

main uh

philosopher i mean you know everything

hmm i see

i see yeah i uh i'm not really in the

loop you know rtsg they just they kind

of move

as a uh a shadow

a shadow state

but yeah i'm very aware i'm very aware

because uh

i'm infamously i am the i'm kind of the

owner of it so you know

shout out what about mac what happened

to mac

mac i mean i don't know prism said i own

it so i own it

all right well i i i have not been

informed of this

i don't know if this is a question i i i

claimed i claimed this when i debated

samira

said that like yeah i own rtsg

before i left

well i don't i don't interfere in the

internal affairs of rtg so if you all

have coups and shit

i will just i'm like china i'll

recognize whoever's at the head of

whatever right now it's not a coup if

you know what it's like it's like i'm

the dang he was like the huaygong thing

but he kept doing the two whatever's i'm

here with real changes i mean with like

real policies

i see i see

uh so when is when is rtsg i heard you

guys are um planning on debating

a fat guy what's his name hans of han

akira

oh bro we have an entire list bro we

have an entire like giant ass list

i have like a perjurist bro

yeah that's all i'm gonna say for now

well we got our burglars we got enemies

the haters deep state is on top no one

can stop our asses

you know the red army marches into

berlin you know it's that type of beat

yeah yeah yeah i i am hearing about that

i'm hearing that rtsg is making waves

uh i'm hearing that there's elements in

the you know fsb that are reaching out

and stuff and

a lot of big moves

is a haters pro like do you think this

whole war in ukraine is like for nothing

bro

no i specifically advanced in it i

specifically have anyone proved that

putin was a socialist and he was

actually right

when he debated yeah people laughed at

him people laughed at him look who's

laughing now huh yeah he was right he's

actually right he's going to nationalize

more shit now and stuff

because those oligarchs are uh bitching

out and stuff so he was right he was

actually right on ironically

yeah and let me shock you further wrote

the ussr is coming back i'll confirm it

from now

it will come back lukashenko will beat

the head unless some

like kp or fbi steps in until then

lukashenko is the head

um

what else what else

i mean turkey is not gonna exist i think

i made it like super clear before

and so i'm trying to check like if

you've seen the light or not you know

like i'm trying to check like so you

don't start with like

losing motherfuckers like you know bad

optics

yeah i mean um

yeah oh yeah one other thing vosh will

cancel java for being tankies

i have inside knowledge all thank yous

they're all stalinists

they're just pranking everyone

rujaba is stalinist

what

yeah they're stalinists bro i'm gonna

approve you one day bro like one time

i'll come on stream i'll i'll explain

the whole thing

i have insight info

what about what about the ocelon and his

democratic confederalism from prison

bro fuck who the fuck is with democratic

confederalism he doesn't even believe in

that shit bro he kept purging people

that was a cop he's like oh i'm not in

charge anymore yeah let's be libertarian

guys that's the whole thing

so that you're saying they're pranking

the world they're actually stalling us

dead ass yeah

did brace belden actually say that

whoo

someone in chat saying brace belt inside

is that real

i mean look if they are actually

stalling us

no i'm actually not even joking right

now i have like inside people they're

actually like breathing people look all

right

anarcholipse would cancel them that's

what i'm gonna say

yeah so the pkk is still marxist

leninist

oh yeah dude okay to be super honest

yeah they are actually but i'll say the

guys in syria which are kind of separate

tend to be very pragmatic and it causes

like

big reformation because like they're

trying to navigate all sides which you

know

yeah it doesn't really work america

though

now that's what i mean they're trying to

navigate both the us russia and the

government which is like

you know it's not easy to do and it's

kind of stupid and might like be

suicidal so you know i wouldn't

recommend doing that

yeah so all these leftists who think

they're like libertarian socialists are

being

on that's actually so based they're

they're grifting off these leftists

yeah they're dead

that's fucking based vice news and

everything

dude vice news people are going to come

out and you're going to find out that

rojava is not only stalinist and maoist

they're going to freak out when

the pkk heads are going to come out one

day after they you know obviously win

and they're like

our role model is china and that's when

people are gonna like get brain farts

is it actually

i mean they look they said that their

fucking basis is like you know

that the there like a marxist

origination like they uphold that still

and their ideas are very in common with

like people i do know are very like pro

china at the very least they're like the

chinese model

and so on and you think kojon would

probably be into it if you you know

bernard had rila v and winton posed with

them they were just scamming him

dude when bernard andy levy came around

he felt like oh they're cured they're

like wholesome chungus right and they're

like

yeah funny french man yeah let's let's

like rob his ass

that's actually kind of

um what about the israel ties

the israelites are fake actually like

yeah they're very pro-palestine there's

pflp

posts about through java being based

plus uh to be honest they don't go by

java anymore they think the name is

fucking retarded so they just call it

like you know northeast syria

i i hope you're right i hope you're

right about all this shit man i i don't

know but i i hope you're right

oh yeah

on top of it if you wanna know how base

they are

turkish media does literally shit

talking for being iran funded

so you know that should tell you like

more than enough

plus i mean they blew up like some

emirates

fucking like oil field in iraq

yeah i'll have to i'll have to learn

more

but um

all right man

appreciate you coming on

hey there is the month

okay goodbye

right so we got sam f

i don't trust that uh we'll bring on

dong

gai

go ahead are you here to claim two

thousand dollars

are you here to claim two thousand

dollars

are you here to claim two thousand

dollars um i mean if i if i convince you

on california will you give me two

thousand dollars

california about what

california is based

yeah i will give you two thousand

dollars if you can convince me

california is based easy

okay

okay

so do you know anything about the

history of california like generally

i know about the present of california

and the present is shit in the streets

yeah yeah i agree i agree so i mean what

else is it

well i think that you're missing out a

lot on like

the real authentic uh spirit of the

state

i think there's a lot you're missing out

on so row java resurrecting salad and to

build the civilization stayed in the

levant

i don't know you know when you came here

thank you so much for the fire man you

came to l.a a few months ago

uh

you said that it was like living in the

stream brother appreciate you said it

was living in some sort of uh

dream world right it was like

separated from reality right yeah i

remember saying that yeah um

this is only applicable to like

la and

maybe san francisco like bay area

the rest of the state

is completely and totally unlike that

you mean the biggest population centers

in the whole state

yeah yeah right not but not sacramento

not sacramento so what is based about

california

california is based because california

not only has

the highest level of agricultural

production in the entire country but is

also like some of the most

um like authentic history in the country

as well when it comes to

uh building infrastructure development

and

uh infrastructure

embedded in the occult

and freemasonry

um well not not that obviously like no

one's going to claim that but i mean

like for example the central valley

irrigation um

the creation of that

was one of the biggest projects the

entire country and it just goes on

unspoken of

uh when people talk about california

right i just cannot accept california

divorced from la i just can't

um

i can understand that i can understand

that like it's really hard to because la

is like that really annoying like whiny

teenager in the back of the room that

wants to talk all about themselves like

but if you talk to big ones it's like

where it's happening the biggest thing

but it's not it's literally not it's

literally not like the real authentic

material lives of californians

are completely and totally separated

from la like no one else

outside of la actually likes it so why

why is la the way it is

la is the way it is because of satanic

elements that infiltrated the state

um

during the

well you can kind of trace them back

actually almost all the way to the gold

rush but i would say that the

majority of them came during the

post-war period

uh world war ii

but there's something about

that place that is very

first

yeah

i agree but i i would say that it's

limited only to really to la and san

francisco

those are like the biggest cities that's

like saying michigan is great but

detroit and grand rapids are i mean you

can't michigan is michigan you know

um

well i would say that well okay then i

would equate it to something like okay

you can't say america's base because

america has you know the fucking cia and

fbi and the democrats and shit right

like you can't just like write off an

entire community of people just because

one or two major elements of it are

satanic you know what about the hippies

what about that because that's that's

really hard to forgive too

i agree i agree um especially during

especially in san francisco like i'm

sure you're aware that like a lot of

like the fascist movements in america

came from san francisco right like um

like uh there's a lot of like problems

that we have with hippies especially but

i feel like the majority of hippies

actually come from places like arizona

uh and if we're talking about western

america at least they come from like

places like arizona and oregon and then

they flood to la and san francisco and

like infiltrate like the people there

so what is the plan for la in the future

um i think that the plan would be to

raise it to the ground and rebuild anew

and

uh hopefully my hope is that

uh we will like conduct some sort of

like hashtag land back to your situation

and let the mexicans take over

because they're the actual like people

who know how to run things like they

they build all the houses they construct

all the roads like mexicans know how to

like work shit here bro like uh so what

i think

do you think california should secede

cal exit

um

i mean

the russians seem to like that idea uh

for the most part i think they're kind

of like i think i think they think it's

funny

i don't think it should seem necessarily

i'm just saying like ideally what i

think should happen is like epic

mexican taco truck take over of the

state i think that would be really

awesome

yeah i i've said that before too i think

my school should take it but i do think

it should be separated from america

obviously

like okay i would say that ideally yeah

too but like pragmatically what's gonna

happen is that california is just gonna

be simply like rebuilt from like scratch

like phoenix arising from the ashes like

what's gonna happen is like the central

valley is gonna like envelop la

and uh the bay area and uh like make

them suffer like make them bend the knee

um and then completely and totally

rebuild the state and center all

economic and political life in

sacramento once again that's where

that's for the authentic existence of

california okay you convinced me that

there can be a based california but

right now it is just not is it

that's okay but then then i would again

ask you the question like i would i

would like um

compare it to america like you say that

you support america like because there's

a real american um there's a real

american civilization developing here

but um obviously there's a lot of bad

things about america yet you also say

that america is based so i mean i say

the same thing about california america

is not yet based

okay all right yeah i

um why was the same thing about

california then yeah

but michigan is better objectively

um i would argue that anything east of

the mississippi is satanic and shit i

don't i don't i don't like anything easy

there but this is actually the real

america this is with the founding of

america

no uh the real america is in nevada uh

it's in montana it's in colorado it's in

wyoming

those square states

yes you know why they're square because

the federal government fucks them over

like the the authentic like do you

realize like 90 of the mythology about

america is from the west like cowboys

the wild west in general even like folk

music is all from the west like only

like i would say like max 30 of american

mythology is actually from the east and

that includes the revolutionary war the

rest of it is entirely in the west

no we had the north during the civil war

this is lincoln territory

i'm not disagreeing but uh the west had

an equal if not even more important role

in the civil war if it weren't for

um

california uh

putting down a revolt in southern

california southern california could

have flipped to the confederacy and

completely changed the course of the war

in fact texas tried to invade arizona

and new mexico territory michigan and

we're

like

the hundreds of thousands of lives

california just sat there

it's not true it's not true

california just

fined gold while michigan sons of

michigan and ohio were

dying in fields fighting the

confederates

the californian there were tons of

california regiments in the civil war

many of which participated even on the

eastern theater like they were literally

over shipped over and were put under uh

uh grants command yeah but they were

they were known for being less

able than the michigan soldiers

um that's only because i think that they

were unused to like the big scale

battles in in the east because what

western soldiers were used to were

smaller scale engagements over

slightly rougher terror in fact not

slightly rougher territory in general

just it was

a different style of fighting that they

were unused to look i had i i can choose

between east and west coast

and my answer to you to conclude this

after a long deliberation i've been to

la i've seen the girls in la i know what

la is like

new york city

please don't need me all day

tonight

new york city please don't leave me all

day

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all right

emperor

oblivious he doesn't sound like a guy

who would be disagreeing with me so sam

f is gonna come up and claim 2000.

go ahead sam

you hear me yeah

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it sounded um like

if i'm wrong but also

sort of thing

uh where

he

sort of

did the

the movement

um and and that it didn't rise

organically

so

i guess i just want to ask you like

is that ultimately what you think

yes

okay because i i disagree with that

um and and i would say that

there is a lot of corporate power um

that works you know in

support of those issues but i don't

think that

it initiated by the corporate powers i i

think that it

was an organic movement that they see

uh you know opportunity from and so

they've co-opted that yeah but i spent

like hours hours

so you you've got to be familiar with

what i've already said you know

like about the origins the actual

origins historically where it came from

because we went over this stuff

and

you got something new that's fine but

you know i don't really want to go over

the old debate again

well i guess like

i guess for me the big thing would be

that

corporate mentality would be in support

of taking on

they can sort of

co-opt and it doesn't require any real

change by them

uh except that that's

interesting

i think that's a theory a lot of people

have but when you look at the history

that doesn't hold up to the actual

history the actual history that

there was nothing organic about it

ever

okay well yeah i'm not even gonna

pretend that you know i know exactly all

your argument to try to take back

but

i appreciate the time

yep so this

this guy uh hidite spade this guy's

always the scary looking guy who is this

guy who is this guy

who is this person they're always

requesting

who who is this person

go ahead

every time i allow them

they leave

that's not a weird thing

that's something i think i've never

spoken to them before because every time

i accept the request they just leave

congratulate why

congratulations like okay

i guess that leaves um

emperor libius

go ahead emperor

yeah are you here for 2000

i'm not really willing to commit to what

i said about the ming dynasty

but i will try to justify why i've said

it

and that's because

it was basically

a reaction against the mongols

he was a member of the white lotus sect

yeah the white lotus and they they were

champions of the poor and they were like

you know yeah

yeah i get that but i ultimately think

like you know the mongols

kind of represent this universalism

i think the mean kind of bring it back

to

i don't know i just feel like the meme

kind of tried to restore

the ancient regime that's how i always

seen them i've always seen them as like

a thermador trying to restore

the pre-mongol status quo

yeah

uh under the yuan dynasty there was a

there was a cast system called called

the cermu system which was like the top

was the mongols and other mongol tribes

below that was the arabs and turks and

then below that was the the the people

like the ketones and juchens and below

that were the southern song dynasty like

the people from the summerstone density

so it was based on like on who who the

mongols conquered conquered first

yeah no no it makes sense yeah um

no i'm not against the ming

i i kind of have a very uh

yin-yang idea of it which is basically

like

the ming were probably necessary and

inevitable but on the same account

ching we're also it's kind of like goes

back and forth between

you know these like the the fire in the

water

kind of makes sense the ming or fire

right and the qing are

representing

i think the yuan the element was earth

right

and then the ming represented fire

the revolutionary fire i guess and then

the thing was water yeah ching was water

so i think it's kind of one of those

things it's not necessarily good or bad

it's more just kind of

cycles right

yeah

okay

to be clear yeah i think the ming

dynasty

is a legitimate

and necessary part of chinese history

right

so

i'm not here just like the u.n yeah i'm

not against iran either like the yuan

definitely had these achievements like

moving culture

from china to the rest of the world and

all that stuff

yeah yeah yeah that's that's more or

less my view i think these are all

stages of chinese history that we can't

really

ascribe

good or bad judgment kind of judgments

to we we have to have a more inclusive

view

as just different stages you know

but anyway yeah yeah

yeah

i thank your time for it and for

answering this thank you

i finally we have hittite space

hit tight space laser go ahead

hello yeah

hello

hello is there

sorry i think

i can hear you

yeah this is what they always do this is

the they always do the same thing every

time i join

i don't know who that person is i don't

know what their their problem is right

but

i was you know twitter

twitter i mean y'all

it should be easy

this shit should be easy

but

i guess people don't want to step up to

task and then

it is 2 15 am guys and

i'll say one final thing

one argument my enemies have actually

managed to make

that i do think um is is is reasonable

is is that you know

uh oh wait we have one more person okay

isa we'll have isla come on

hello

hello

hi how are you today

good how are you

um i didn't really do shit today um

kind of just like still waking up i'm a

little bit sick so i haven't been super

active um

but

i'm not

i'm not here to beat you necessarily but

like i have a couple questions because

i've been struggling with like

understanding stuff and

you seem to have like an extensive okay

so

i know that you have this conversation

like a lot with response to like

socialist patriotism and i have my own

thoughts on it but something that i've

specifically been struggling with is the

concept of like national character and

while i don't think that

for example like white people in the us

are like just

random europeans like germans and

frenchmen or whatever would you say that

these people have like a nation like an

american national character

in the sense that like they comprise a

nation

um

no i think the weird thing about america

is that

other any let's call it the old world i

guess

that the national character is based on

the past right but the america's kind of

weird because

and this is true for other american

states like in latin america but it's

not based this actually is true for

latin america actually but it's based on

the future right it's based on this idea

of

you know somehow there's a reality

that's not from the past but from the

future

and

while

i guess white people

do represent

the american nation uh as

in the most you know common

or stereotypical sense

i think that nation kind of has always

expanded right

it's expanded to other europeans

somehow it's i think it's starting to

expand to the latinos more recently um

and it has excluded people obviously

but i i don't um

i think

whiteness i kind of agree with what some

of these uh who's that guy frank

is his name frank wilson the afro

pessimist

oh yeah i fucking hate him he's a plague

on my community

yeah yeah no he but he said one thing i

kind of do think i agree with

just one thing

which is

that whiteness is like uh this

enlightenment

kind of like thing where like you know

it's it's defined by

how much

your identity is based on artificial

some artificial institution or some

artificial universal state and i kind of

agree with that definition

and to me

arriving at an american nation is also

about having an american

national reality that is not based on

whiteness it's based on

some kind of um

civilization

that has not yet formed

and has not formed in the past

so i think there's a difference right

i'm sounding kind of scheduled right now

right the difference is

on the one hand the american nation is

not

an ideal like the united states has

typically been like oh you know what

they say like oh this is an ideal and we

haven't always lived up to our ideal but

we're trying to get there i don't buy

that shit i don't like that thing about

the ideal right because that's based on

state that's based on an institution

that's based on trying to create

something artificially

but i do agree with the idea of

the american nation being something in

the future that is realizing itself

but to me that's a material

nation that's not based on an idea like

joe biden he's like america is the only

country that's based on an idea like

okay

no country can be based on an idea so i

don't buy that shit right

but i do think there's some civilization

some material reality

which hasn't yet formed but the seeds of

which exists here

which

um

which you can tap into somehow but you

know my problem is that um

it's a gamble like is this whole america

shit one big fucking train wreck and one

big mistake

um

is this whole thing just one like

like i was in law school for a year and

i felt that way sometimes i'm gonna be

honest

just because i knew how much like this

common law stuff was bullshit i was like

i can't believe people spend all their

fucking time

pretending that this shit is real

um this common law shit which is based

on you know the judge woke up on the

wrong side of the

bed one morning and decided to pull some

shit out of his ass and we all just sit

here and pretend like this shit is real

and this is material and it's not

it's just very forced right and it's

like a frankenstein monster and it's not

eloquent there's no beauty there's no

coherence just seems like it's a

mishmash right

i feel like it's very easy to feel that

about america i felt that about america

a lot right like is america just that is

this just one frankenstein monster with

no meaning

but the the reason

i don't stick to that

is because i feel like that's ex i feel

like if that's true then like is

anything meaningful like is everything

that we consider meaningful in the world

just

based on bullshit i feel like america is

a test in a lot of ways right like this

has got to be meaningful somehow this

has got to mean something this has gotta

this has got to um have a reality of

some kind

um and if it doesn't i just think that's

like a

that's a really dark

egoistic

and actually very american

outlook and the bad sense of america

right i feel like when there is this

nihilism in america which says about

other countries there's no meaning

there's no reality it's all just

accidental it's all meaningless

and

you know i i think um

yeah i think that's it's a big problem

but

my view is that there is an american

nation there is an american civilization

oh yeah no i i definitely agree and

you know being completely up front i was

once of like

um the opposite persuasion i had like

third worldless brainworms and so i've

sort of just been like struggling

through

um you know rereading like the classics

and really trying to to to gain an

understanding of things and to

overcome you know previously held ideas

that you know obviously were proven

wrong time and time again um and the

reason why i asked you that

if you don't mind me like sharing where

i'm at in terms of like

uh not even necessarily an american

nation because i think that one

objectively exists and i think that

people who say that it doesn't whether

they like it or not are kind of just

coping um

yeah it exists you know regardless like

there's

you know it's here you know whether you

like it or not um but with the question

of like

white people in particular someone asked

me do like white people in the us

constitute a nation and so i've been

going back through like

marxism and the national colonial

question

and like a couple you know different

chapters in capital um specifically

about like colonialism and so from what

i understand is that for colonialism to

sort of like initially

take root for it to have a stable basis

right a colonizer has to treat this land

as public right something that's you

know sort of like up for grabs something

that is easily accessible to them

something that is you know just just

free to free to just snatch up yeah and

so as a and so as a consequence of this

characteristic you know of like new

colonies for for example right this sort

of proletarian labor that a capitalist

for example um would bring into this

newly settled land is no longer bound to

him but becomes a settler on this

so-called public land right and so this

is done as like a necessary bulwark

against the land's initial inhabitants

right and so these former laborers um

from what i understand

become a sort of landed class in itself

right they they go through their own

labor you know on this sort of land and

you know which is not exploited that is

to say

of the of like which they reap the

benefit directly you know there are many

cases able to you know build this basis

of like profitable businesses um but

these settlers of new colonies are no

longer imported you know it comes to a

point where these settlers of new

colonies are no longer imported

proletarian laborers if that makes sense

um and so like

i think that at some point in the course

of like

the development of u.s history in

particular um you see like the sort of

development of industry and with the

development of industry um these sort of

settlers become landed right and they

are settled for lack of a better term

and the developing industry um their

rise is like a proletariat bourgeoisie

um you know all of these other different

things and i think that like

you know obviously like white americans

for example

aren't simply

you know like germans or

italians or englishmen right and so

that's why i asked you that because it's

something that i've been

sort of struggling to really like get a

cochlear imposition on yeah so around

believe it or not this started for me um

when did bernie lose the primary when

was that is that 2020 2019

no idea it was 2019. pretty sure it was

2019. i don't i don't fucking remember

at 2020 i think

well around that time i did

start to go back and look at american

history just to you know i was writing a

project

which was about the origins of the

democratic party basically

how the democratic party started as a

kind of party of these small land owners

you land holders you talked about

but one of the interesting things i

began to discover

was that

this

a relationship to the state

of of small landowners you know

was very asian

and what i mean by that is that it

shared kind of something in common

with the so-called oriental despotic

states

which were mainly based on a very large

kind of um

small landed proprietor kind of class of

they're not certain there wasn't any

official private property but they were

just people who were able to own their

own land and that would cement their

loyalty to the emperor and the despot

and the more i learned about history

the more i learned that pretty much

every civilization in history

was the

was defined not by a relationship of

like you know an exploiting class and a

great mass of subjugated slaves and

whatever but actually the majority were

always of a given state at least

citizens of that state

were always you know

these small

proprietors of some kind right

um these people who and you can't really

call them proprietors

because they weren't just they weren't

just exchanging shit on the market

uh like a capitalist does

they were just

reproducing the conditions of their

subsistence they were living off of some

kind of subsistence right they had some

land that they would it was like a

it wasn't like uh defined by like crazy

market relations but just a steady way

of life that's what that's what he

called a way of life right

and

it seemed like something similar

happened in america

and

actually for the majority of history on

this continent

and in europe even

the proletarians class has never been a

majority ever

the majority have always been the

peasantry the majority have always been

some kind of small proprietors i mean

throughout all of history even the

history of early capitalism even to

industrial capitalism

england was actually the only country

that ever had a a working-class majority

i think

and marx and engels wrongly predicted at

first that this was going to be the fate

for the rest of europe and it wasn't

a french peasantry and the german

peasantry and the russian peasantry all

these segments

just transformed into like these new

middle classes right that were similar

to the peasants

being able to have this independent way

of life

so something similar it was also true

for the americas which was

defined by uh settler colonialism

uh where you know uh people would grab

land um

through exploration or dispossession of

indigenous people

or you know some other kind of

speculation um

where these big companies would

speculate off the land they would sell

them to people and stuff so i mean

america is

unique compared to the rest because in

the old world

the claim to land was based on two

things

the past

titles to the land like your family and

i have a title to this

or like the

sultan the emperor or the sovereign

granting you land and giving you land

uh for some reason right usually if a

family falls out of favor middle ages

and um

that is

uh that is like

how that happens whatever

um but america is a case where

it's it's more future oriented they're

taking this land

um

obviously they're just possessing a lot

of people as well but

in addition to that

it's based on

a claim to the future right it's few

it's it's

heavily based on speculation as well

actually frederick engels talked

about the role of speculation

of land as the defining feature of of of

america's political economy and angles

basically said that when spec when

people can no longer reap the rewards of

speculation and land

you know the whole political system is

going to collapse and people are no

longer going to buy into

the two-party system he literally said

it was a two-party system angles at the

time

and that's going to be the basis of an

american you know revolution or whatever

but

yeah throughout the history of american

politics it's always based on land it's

always been based on my andrew jackson

uh that kind of populism was based on

granting people land

um the populist party and the populist

movement

was also based on land reform which also

broadened to um infrastructure and

electricity and yada yada

and then the new deal kind of is

interesting because it kind of co-opted

the populace and it added these

professional managerial coastal elite

kind of people with glasses basically

but let's call them white people with

glasses right

they kind of

um you know were they didn't give people

their own sovereign land but they kind

of managed

uh

some kind of welfare system where like

there's social security there's

different agencies different departments

different programs

they kind of wanted to socially engineer

the country

uh you know to fit their kind of

progressive vision of it

and then obviously you have the housing

reforms after the new deal

which it's all about land everything's

about land basically the whole country

so that this narrow paradigm

of let's call them classical or let's

call them dogmatic marxists

which oh it's just the proletarian

like that will that will never be useful

for being able to understand

the history of not only this country but

any country right

you know people mis didn't don't

understand the proletary in the

bourgeoisie

is about

navigating the land question right

because the bourgeois position is always

going to end up

with a failed land reform right

throughout history it's always been the

proletarian position

of just somehow recognizing the fact

that there is an inevitable change

coming through modern industry that is

going to displace the old way of life

that has always been the the thing that

allowed

communists in russia and china to

correctly navigate the land question by

recognizing that the old way of life was

impossible to preserve

there's aspects of it that do need to be

reformed

they were able to kind of

successfully carry out land reform you

know in a way that was just

also in a way that was morally just from

the perspective of like national justice

and all kind of stuff

but yeah the land question central and

when it comes to the racial history of

this country so you mentioned white

yeah i i think i do agree i think white

basically defines the people who were

recipients of

america's social contract through land

so the people who did get land basically

that is pretty much what white means in

this country right and that's why the

definition of white always gets to get

broadened

uh you know before you had the irish and

you had the italians and all these

people not considered white but then

when they started to benefit from the

federal housing reforms after the new

deal

and after the post-war period all of a

sudden they become white right

so

and obviously black people were

explicitly excluded from the american

pie

a piece of the american pie with the the

promise of 40 acres and a mule being um

that was the promise after the civil war

but it was never lived up to

and the populist party actually in the

farmers alliance

also drew heavily from black

republicans who were trying to get that

40 acres and a mule

but the democrats actually were

responsible for instigating racial

conflict

which

destroyed that alliance they

they basically like um

funded or or fueled these kind of like

pogroms basically race riots and shit

which divided the populist movement

um

so you know and that's that's that's

coming that's the uh

what year was that i fucking forget it

was some 19 something 190 something

right

but

to me yeah there's also a lot of

cultural stuff associated with the idea

of whiteness but you know to me my when

i say american patriotism i'm not

talking about

um

a patriotism that's coming from the

european enlightenment

i'm more talking about a patriotism of

uh the russian and chinese kind

which is basically about material

reality it's like it's not about an

ideal

of some project some political project

because ideals is how you get to where

we are right now that is the bourgeoisie

that's idealism right it's not about an

ideal it's not about like oh it's a

vision of a country it's more about a

real material country with me real

material roots

and i actually think

the land question has always been based

on institutions right

i think when we can arrive at a point

where we can conceive of the land

question

no longer from the perspective of

institutions

whether that's um

you know the the land

grants in the 1800s or that's the new

deal social engineers

when we can arrive at an actual real

material civil society

uh

i think that's also part of

the racial aspect of it too right

um

a general land reform

that can establish

a relationship to the land that's

governed by moors

and it's covered by culture and customs

not governed by institutions

i think that's the key you know

i think that's how you get to an

american civilization

yeah no i i'm i'm definitely like

broadly in agreement i was just

wondering about that because like again

it's something that i don't think is

necessarily like an easy answer um but

if you wouldn't mind me asking how do

you feel about i see like a lot of

socialist patriots um they're really

drawn to the idea of like clear

nationalism for the states how do you

feel about like that is like a concept

i i don't like it off the bat i don't

like it primarily because i think it's

social democratic in nature

i think it mirrors

the austrian social democrats kind of

proposal of cultural national autonomy

basic idea of that is that we're gonna

have like one state

and we're gonna have common institutions

within this state that are gonna address

various different nationalities

different nationalities

but i think that the reason that's

inherently social democratic and this is

why lenin and the rest announced it was

because

it basically tries to solidify these

institutions of the bourgeoisie under

the guise

of like different discreetly defined

nations

basically empowers the social democratic

institutions

to rule over society while preserving

you know the bourgeois state it's pretty

much like we're going to have the

bouzough state we're going to also have

these institutions that help

mediate these national conflicts

to me i don't i don't think i think the

answer is neither pluri nationalism nor

the

european model of the nation state

um

i think both of those are failed

paradigms

even in the soviet union

it was uh tough

under their soviet democracy their

soviet government

where they kind of just

put all these different groups and

territories into boxes that they called

the nation

this worked to an extent because of

their soviet system their federal soviet

system but that also you know disaster

at the end

i think china's was better

china didn't put people into boxes and

they did recognize one china one chinese

civilization right

so i guess it has to do more with a

shift

from

i think a nation is something we have to

recognize is inherently contradictory

there can be one american nation

but there can also be contradictions

within that american nation it's not one

homogeneous nation it's one nation yes

but there just happens to be all these

historical contradictions that are

defining that nation

so

i i don't want to get too hung up on the

idea of an of an american nation

i think that's something that can

organically reveal its meaning through

time

i think the focus should be on an

american civilization

i think that matters more because

civilization

is about

the way in which you do deal with

differences

and that's what civilization means in

china that's what it means in russia

how can you actually

co-exist with these people

who are different than you how can you

learn to like

you know

acknowledge and respect that fact and

you know mutually define each other on

that basis

so i think that's civilization is to

me surpass the nation

ah okay yeah no that makes sense like

again i'm

i don't want to say anything that i'm

like new to these concepts but it's

definitely not as easy as i thought it

would be like it really isn't it it's

it's so hard because like

there's true to the idea that black

people are a nation in this country

right there's a lot of truth to that

but

there's also a lot of

there's something very distinctly

american about american black people

right in a way that's different from

other people around that that are

african descent

so

it's tough and the same is true for

other groups as well like

um

i think this uh

i i do think though that

you know

in the

in so far as certain groups have been

excluded from america

i think to the extent of their exclusion

is the extent

to which they should be afforded the

right to um

sovereignty

so because they have not been given a

piece of america's sovereignty

that should be enough to say

before we can have a common american

civilization

they must have their own sovereignty

and after they have their own

sovereignty if we can then unify

as equals

then uh that will happen

so at the same time that i believe in

comments it was see my problem with

blurry nationalism is that

it's it doesn't give sovereignty to

these other nations right it just kind

of tries to

have this social democratic you know

kumbaya shit

i genuinely support

uh

black separatism

and nationalism like have a separate

sovereign

black power in this country

if that's something serious and it's

possible and it can be

can take off the ground that i would

support that also the same for

indigenous groups

latino groups

and i'm not saying that because i think

okay then we're going to have our own

white state which will be america no

america won't be defined

by whiteness it will be defined by the

united states

just that groups that have been excluded

from that project

should not be forced

into a project that they have no reason

to trust

and actually i think once this united

states

can

respect other people's sovereignty

only when they unify on the basis of a

respect for the sovereignty of others

will you have a real american

civilization i think that will be the

foundation of the civilization that will

create the necessary distance

to establish mutual respect

uh that's what i think

okay yeah no i i agree with that i think

that that is like realistic i think it's

more nuanced than

some of the answers that i see online

that sort of paper over these national

realities or try to which i consider

like the inverse error which is like you

can balance your way out of reality

where they're like oh we're gonna make

like 200 different nations and they're

going to be like scattered across an

american landmass i think that that's

like a really immature position that i

understand why people fall into as

someone who you know had previously

fallen into it um before like rereading

some works and you know having some

intellectual honesty and sort of

maturing beyond just

um twitter dunks about

um so-called pat socks on the internet

which i was never doing super heavy but

you know just just to sort of like step

back and mainly having a dishonest

assessment

yeah i mean like america's always been a

country defined by like splintering into

a thousand different groups

founding new towns founding new cultures

and

it that's nothing i think you know i

mean patriotism is just about

self-awareness

that you have some kind of

common reality common problem not really

about like uh you know

overlooking all the contradictions it's

more just like this is our reality like

these people who talk about that which

you just described there's nothing more

american than that fantasy right we're

gonna have a million different states

scattered around based on

all this diversity of nations

you know the model of this country is e

pluribus unum it's it means out of many

one right

so this tendency to try and like have

many

that just

disguises the one thing that this united

states that they're taking for granted

right

um

because let me tell you what we

balkanize hypothetically

and let's say okay russia and china come

and they're like okay

we're gonna like

have very disproportionate influence

over these same people who are

these woke whatever liberal people it

would throw a fit they would become the

biggest american chauvinist

um because they take for granted their

americanism

it would also like fuck over like black

people like i don't know this idea that

like we can just

you know separate from like the us just

like without doing any of the necessary

work in the other parts of the country i

feel like if it were to hypothetically

work like i think that would just fuck

out like a lot of people and

you know you know what i think i think a

lot of it too is um

maybe the the black political

sovereignty won't take the form of a

separate state

but a separate political movement i

think that is death definite and

guaranteed i think

maybe not a separate state i i can't

speak i'm not like you know i would just

say i would support if that was the

consensus but definitely political

independence i think that is a

that would have to be

yeah definitely definitely like uh you

know that would definitely have to

preclude any possibility of a you know a

unified

political movement

um yeah because because the way how i

see it i'm sorry to cut you off like the

way how i see it and i've said this

before

albeit not like you know to you

specifically but the way how i view like

black people in the us is that we have

our own history

you know culture our own traditions that

is uniquely ours and well it does

interact um very intimately with the

broader narrative of american history i

would say that it's not unique to

american history um i.e that you know it

is still ours and while it does have

this intercourse with you know other

people and creates a sort of unique

blending of of culture and you know of

course some horrible consequences at the

end of the day it's still something that

you know is

uniquely ours and so in going over rigs

from you know black marks to slenderness

like harry haywood who i particularly

appreciate um where he asserts that um

he says that like we negro communists do

not accept the status of aliens to which

like this negro resolution was

relegating them and he says that you

know they're an integral part of the

negro movement and that they embody

these sort of great revolutionary

traditions and he lists off like harriet

tubman and matt turner and frederick

douglass and he says that you know it's

therefore not only the right but the

duty of negro communists to sort of form

uh to project forms and methods of

struggle consistent with our

revolutionary traditions not only just

in the us but also in the broader you

know western hemisphere and i think that

that is something that still stands true

today um and it doesn't really surprise

me now that you know i'm sort of taking

a step back and i don't really like

argue on the internet and worry and i

try and you know be as honest as

possible in my engagements with other

people even if i disagree with them um i

think that you know that is something

that that holds true and it doesn't

surprise me that in that sense harry

haywood referred to himself explicitly

um as as a patriot right as a socialist

patriot right and i think that that is

the sort of

um thing that a lot of people tend to

miss out on when we're having the

patriotic discourse i think that they

confuse patriotism in the socialist

context with a sort of civic nationalism

yes which papers over national realities

and absolutely tries to appeal to a sort

of color blindness where i think that

people who actually engage with this

literature specifically marks the sun in

this literature because that's the

tendency that i ascribe to um and so i

can't speak for anything else but i

think that a lot of people sort of have

completed the position of civic

nationalism these things espoused by

like uh the the proud boys right where

they try to make appeal to this broader

national project this broader national

identity

at the cost of recognizing these

material realities for people who

undergo national oppression and are

suffering because of it um and i think

that you know that's why that's why i

came in with the question about like do

white people in the us constitute a

nation and it was it might sound like a

troll question but it's like a genuine

question

yeah

it's whether whether we like it or not

like these aren't just

in my view like i said earlier i don't

see these as just like scattered

europeans i think that you know these

aren't english men these aren't

frenchmen i mean while i do think that

whiteness has a specific shifting

boundary um i also think that that

shifting boundary comes within specific

temporal time frames which um then is

able to expand or contract based on you

know these different material situations

and so when we have um a group of people

in the us who

for for better for words um have sort of

you know become settled right and have

these sort of national traditions

whether they be positive or negative

and you know as a as a black communist

you know i have a lot of smoke for for

white people more broadly especially

white communists but you know regardless

i think that you know say that we were

too

um

and this isn't even me being like a joke

like say that like all white people in

the u.s like went to

uh

went to like europe right

like there would still be

a reality of all these different nations

and i think that vice verse i.e like if

if there were no other oppressed nations

in the u.s other than you know

these by people there would still be a

nation there you know and i think that

like i hope that that comes across well

because i kind of got no yeah especially

what i really agree with you two about

as well is your focus on the problem of

civic nationalism that is so true that

is exactly what people have always meant

by bourgeois nationals by the way

because you know that word civic that's

based on an institution that's based on

an artificially contrived

universalism

um that does come from the bourgeoisie

the bourgeoisie is the urban ruling

class that's what the root word the the

burgers or whatever it comes from right

these urban dwellers

who basically try to artificially create

realities based on rationalism and based

on kind of like you know

from their head basically for you know

instead of from the body right

that kind of cartesian you know

i think therefore i am kind of thing

that's what civic nationalism is civic

nationalism is a project it's an

institution that's why lenin and stalin

didn't like the austro marxists they

didn't like this idea of cultural

national autonomy it was just this

artificial institutional kind of thing

but on the other hand you know

when you're talking about socialist

patriotism social spaces isn't based on

an institutional or ideal

project of a nation

it's based on some kind of you know love

or

groundedness

in country and country includes all of

the contradictions it includes all of

the um you know

all of the problems it includes all of

the good and the bad right and it's just

this acknowledgment of a material

country it's an acknowledgement of a

material reality of a common

country or nation or civilization

and when you're saying you're patriotic

you're basically owning up to that

you're saying i'm going to own up to

that

i'm going to recognize that my socialism

has that form

whether i like it or not because that

that is what i am

it's not even

necessarily that you like it

you you can like it more like for

example i do like america more than

fucking europe and sweden

i hate those fucking you know

social whatever the fuck

you know

eu kind of

that's what makes me the most honestly

the thing that makes me the most of a a

patriotic american in the vulgar sense

of the word

is when i was

i'm dealing with europeans you know

that's without thank god i'm not british

right but yeah that's me with british

people like i turned into you know

george bush real quick like you know

don't talk down on my nation

yeah

that's exactly it yeah but you know when

you talk about the proud boys that kind

of civic nationalism that's a fake

uh that or civic patrons whatever you

want i think that's a fake patriotism in

a way because

it's kind of elevating this ideal this

one-sided ideal of a country

and it ignores the more

ignores that reality of a country that

can only be accessed

through intuition and through you know

culture and through customs and through

that more ambiguous realities it's not

really like oh this is an ideal right

and like that's i think that's also why

um a lot of manifestations of american

patriotism have always been tied to

anti-communism because it's almost like

they're trying to say

america is an idea versus the communist

idea right

so for me

american patriotism in the socialist

form

is kind of about

trying to access the reality of a real

material american

reality

in this patriotism like even when these

trump people are waving those american

flags

that's not just based on civic

nationalism

now that's a false consciousness that

they do uh experience it that way

but there's some real there's some

kernel of a reel there that makes sense

it's not just a civic idea it's not just

some you know

ideal

unifying vision

there's a real civilization there

um

and that's also why i found it strange

when people first reacted negatively to

the whole uh patriotism stuff

specifically for me because i thought

the opposite would happen i thought

people would say this is clearly a

chinese plot

to like trick

to like disguise communism in the

american form

and nah you know what i mean like like

when i shared that photo from fond went

on

of of communist america people hated it

because of all the american flags and

shit but they also didn't notice the

chinese characters that were plastered

everywhere

which it looked like it was like

occupied by china right

and the grain of truth in that was this

displacement of the idea of america

with the idea of communism

what that whole aesthetic represented

right

instead of the idea of america

you now have the idea of communism

which takes the form only the form of

the american nation the content is

communist

the form of it is american sure but the

form

isn't essential anymore

and one of my hypothesis is that at

least at first maybe later it became

different but at first back and this was

like late summer last year

i think a lot of the leftists who got

mad about it

fell i think those are secret american

chauvinists and they were like what are

you trying to do turn my country into

just another

soviet republic or something like

no my country's universal you can't

replace my idea like they still believe

america is an idea they're like haas

americas slavery genocide whatever

and the founding father the idea of the

founding fathers was all false and i'm

here like bruh do you not realize the

idea that is

being elevated here is communism

and there's no american idea here at all

there's no trace of an american ideal

the only thing that remains is the real

of the american

the form of the american nation like the

real form of it

but beyond that this is this is

depicting a dystopia

of uh you know of a communist party in

power not only a communist party in

power

but one that is under the kind of soft

power dominance of china

i don't know why people got so mad about

it you know

so so would you say that like when we

talk about like this american form would

you say that like the duty of

would you say that like the duty of u.s

communists is to give

form an expression to

these sort of like patriotic sentiments

that are in like the deeper sort of like

lower masses of the us if that makes

sense like yes like for example like

when we talk about the the cultural

revolution which i know isn't

necessarily popular

um among like a lot of internet

specifically western marxist centers but

i think that it's a really fascinating

time period with a lot of very radical

social programs and i think that um one

thing that's really papered over when we

talk about understanding the gpcr right

is the sort of movement of the peasants

into the cities right where they were

able to

create like art for the first time they

were able to go into these universities

and these more sort of like people and

these people who had like these more

bourgeois attitudes toward the peasantry

um disdain them and i think that um

like when we talk about socialist

patriotism on just like

in just like the americas or north

america specifically and the us in

particular um i think that something

like that is kind of like the duty of

communism in my view like for example um

i'm a black you know marxist sunglasses

right and so i think that my duty as a

as a black communist is to give form an

expression to the deepest and lowest

masses um within the black nation in the

us i.e to sort of step aside to sort of

break away from um the sort of

caricature of patriotism in the minds of

many where it prioritizes aesthetic and

flag waving and jingoism um and it you

know confuses that sort of form with the

actual essence of what it is which is

you know obviously an anti-communist

standpoint when we're understanding

these things

and i think that you know i think that

like how do you feel about that like

yeah i mean um

see

to me i i kind of feel like it's um

it's a it's a hierarchy of ideas right

and to me it's about being able to

give expression to the communist idea

just through the form

with while um

supplanting and replacing the old idea

that makes sense

so for example um

yeah yeah like like uh waving the

american flag

now has a different meaning because it's

subjugated to a different hierarchy of

ideas

the meaning now is no longer

american

anti-communist

civic nationals or whatever now the

meeting is somehow no actually you

mentioned something about the cultural

revolution

now that i remember

you're very correct to point that out

and i'll also add that's exactly the

same thing believe it or not

that happened

after collectivization under stalin with

the stakanovites socialist realism and

the rest

yeah stalin was elevating the russian

peasants

for the first time they had access to

education art literature

um you know politics everything

and this did supplant the former elites

that were you know ruling in the cities

westernized elites just like how it

happened in china later

so you have this kind of history uh

where

more and more

the countryside is being raised up

against these you know gatekeeping

elites from stalin to mount actually

from marx lenin to lenin sorry marx

angles lenin

stalin tomorrow the whole history is

defined that way i would also argue some

something happened there in iran as well

even going further than china in many

ways

but um

uh

i think

i think that's how we should look at

that history like

you know american patriotism the more

lower into the masses you go

the less it's about an idea

it's not it's not just an aesthetic

either it's it's uh

it's a material reality right the lower

into the masses you go the more

patriotism for them is about feeling

it's about this ambiguous love of

country

that you can't really

reduce to

a rational reason right

so that's how i think of it right and to

me

the

the um

tapping into of the let's call them

redneck whatever patriots patriotism to

me that's also about

a kind of maoist assertion of this

ambiguous material nation

over the ideal project of america that

they're trying to create

in new york or wherever where they're

saying you know

this is what america is this is the idea

of america and then you go to the

rednecks and they're like fuck ideas

this is just a feeling right

so

uh it's like that for me you know

yeah um

and so

i guess this is something that we might

squabble over here but do you think he

could convince me on like the us flag

because

i still hate it well first of all i

think it's ugly but second of all um

you know i think that people should

adhere to the line that stalin rolls out

in the second chapter of marxism in the

national question where he says that the

class conscious proletariat does not

rally under the national flag of the

bourgeoisie um but i was like i think

that that's one of the things that is

that like turns me off the most from

like i don't want to say pat's hot

spaces because i don't like that term

but like something like these other

spaces and also like do you agree that

like the american flag is ugly because i

think it's really ugly actually

um

so i'll answer all of that but you know

with stalin he he was

using the the banner of the bourgeoisie

as like a and the word isn't metaphor

but it's like

a youth i don't know what to call it a

literary device he didn't literally mean

it because in uh

his last speech he said the proletariat

must take up the banner of their nations

their respective nations so i think he

um

he didn't mean literally but but beyond

that i think um

see i

want

i think i i do think we it i think a new

flag is inevitable just to be clear i do

think a new flag is inevitable

but in the meantime

i am committed to changing the meaning

of the american flag

or at least giving it a new meaning

right american flag

won't

it can mean a million different things

it's just a random arbitrary design it

doesn't really have a deeper

so for now that is the flag of their

people half of their country right so to

me the task is to give it a different

meaning

but in in the future or let's say

let's say there's a big communist

movement that arises

yeah there will have to be a new flag

and whether okay regarding is the

american flag ugly

um

that shit does not go hard in a good

like you look at it let's just put it

this way

in in my uh fond went on i don't know if

you know that is the guy who

the china 2098 project where they

represented a communist america

the color blue is taken out and replaced

with

yellow

and

i think when you look at communist

states they all seem to kind of

just have red flags with some variation

on it

regarding america

um

i get the flag is corny right

it is corny inherently um because

it will just when you look at it you're

thinking of that civic civic nationalism

right inherently it's just there's

something so

civic about it because of like how we're

raised and how we're in school and how

it's used

by people most of the time at an

institutional level

by the way aesthetically yeah it's not

an ideal flag at all

but yeah you're being nice i wouldn't

say it's not that shit is garbage

negatively

god damn

but yeah if i if it was my choice to

design the flag it wouldn't look like

that at all but um it's it's a

historical flag you know

but um

i think that for me it's about again

it's about the whole thing about the

hierarchy of ideas what does the flag

represent is based on

what is its idea the idea behind it most

people are idealist most people think

there's an idea behind everything right

so

the key is to

change the idea from one of

a civic nationalist project

to the idea of communism

so that that's uh

okay well i have one last question yeah

to me like just one last thing is like

my understanding of aesthetics is

basically that

you can have a same aesthetic with a

completely completely different meaning

i think that's uh

that's what social's realism was about

that whole art form right social realism

was about yeah this is the ordinary

reality

that you see

but slightly slightly it's changed and

all of a sudden the meaning is

completely different

it's about building socialism

whereas like you know the avant-garde in

the soviet union before them they were

like you know the the shape people they

were all the abstract shapes and crazy

shit this is what communism must be the

complete destruction and rebuilding of

reality and souls realism seems really

conservative because it's just showing

you reality but the way it just slightly

slightly

changes

but it's still the same reality you just

look at it in a different way now that's

to me what's really revolutionary but uh

all right

that's all no no it's fine um i have one

last question and it's like kind of

off topic but i i saw like your sub sac

account and i was like reading through

some of the essays and i'll be

completely honest because i'm super

detached from like philosophy now i got

into like i was like superman like

post-modernism like a couple years ago

and then i read capital and i was like

okay i don't need that like also

post-modernism is bad for black people

but

so what what do you mean when you use

the term like modernity right like can

you give me like an actual yeah like

like explain it like i'm five because

when you use the term modernity i don't

know if you mean like just like the

present or if like there's a deeper

philosophical underpinning on it and i

feel dumb because every time i read it

i'm like what the fuck are you talking

about it is a deeper philosophical to me

modernity is

i don't want to be too philosophical but

modernity is some kind of singularity

some moment

which is not cannot be located

in a specific point in time in history

so that's why i call it a singularity

because a singularity is basically a

kind of crash site

which

you can interpret the past for example

as leading up to

before it before it happens and then

after it happens you can interpret uh

some kind of recovery from it does that

make sense a little bit like it's a

singularity which

which um

subordinates all historical development

to leading up to that moment

and then after it happens

whenever it happens right

all history is about how can we how are

we recovering from that

so just to be be more concrete

uh

french

impressionism during the

uh 1800s

had this quality about it of that

after some big wreck happened some big

train crash happened that fucked

everything up

now reality is slowly taking form again

somehow reality is taking form again

that's why the french impressionist

paintings were like the the feeling of

it of the impression was that it's foggy

and the fog is starting to clear right

that's the idea of impressionism right

so

same thing with and the same is true for

social realism right except we know what

social realism was recovering from which

was the destruction of the revolution

china's case the destruction of

the chinese civil war and world war ii

and so on

soviet union's case from the october

revolution right the way that kind of

destroyed meaning for people

so modernity is not a singular point in

time

uh neces from from a objective actual

perspective but it is a singular point

of reference

based on a given um

based on the responses to it right so

that can be the french revolution that

can be english industrial capitalism

that can be in the sphere of philosophy

descartes who said i think therefore i

am right but what all of these have in

common which you can just have a common

definition of modernity from that

is that

modernity represents

more or less a

singular and universal apocalypse of all

being modernity means

the whole world everything that you

thought before

was meaningful and real and true

somehow all that now is nothing

here at least at this point it's all

nothing

it's all um

it's all uh

destroyed

and

somehow you have to start from scratch

based on uh

based on that principle like for

descartes when he said i think therefore

i am

that was because descartes

thought he was being um

he was like a paranoid schizophrenic it

was like what if

all of this religion stuff and all this

things that i believed is just a demon

trying to tell me this

and i can't trust anything that i've

inherited from the past i have this

doubt right so he said well there is one

thing i can be certain of which is that

i can think right so i think

that's proof that i exist that's proof

of my being i think therefore i am so he

starts from scratch he builds on that

right

and to me modernity is that

across the board so it's a revolution

revolution that destroys everything like

the french revolution and then from that

you start

you start from like a new beginning

the english industrial capitalism

destroyed all traditional ways of life

you know marx said all that is solid

melts into air

all that is holy is profaned whatever

and then um the october revolution does

something similar for for russia right

so to me that's modernity but

but

my uh theory basically this is why i

disagree with

anti-modernists

and reactionary thinkers is that for me

that is true that this is what modernity

does

but

for me modernity only does this for

a specific

um aspect of reality namely the aspect

of let's call it a universal state

and part of the recovery from modernity

also means

you

just

i don't want to take too long but just

one last thing right

the the weird thing about modernity

is that

suddenly at the same time that it

represents this complete destruction

complete annihilation of all reality it

also this is part of a book i'm working

on i i make this explicit

it also

turns

old cultural customs and old

institutions and old

um

old realities

into these absolute um

timeless completely certain realities so

in in prussia right that's what happened

that the prussian monarchy is now that

that was just some accidental

inheritance of history right now all of

a sudden this is the absolute universal

truth and then in um the more

reactionary forms of nationalism this

happens in philosophy need shape people

like niche will say this um

about the brutal uh realities of

uh

competition and and uh warfare or

whatever and then later in fascism this

is this is what fascism is fascism is

modern because

it is trying to begin from scratch of

this absolute universal principle

against which everything else is

meaningless right

so then

the nation for fascists or uh whatever

they want right the

ancient roman empire or the ancient

german empire this becomes

absolute

you have absolute certainty in it just

like descartes has certainty in his idea

right

and that's why modernity is inherently

genocidal it is

inherently genocidal

but

to me communist modernity

uh

is just about suspending assumptions

so

so when you resist modernity you will

become like the fascists still within

modernity right the only way to overcome

modernity is to go through it except

that

at least in some aspect of reality this

destruction is necessary then after the

destruction happens you can somehow

authentically

rediscover everything that is materially

real

without

arrogantly claiming certainty in it you

know like yeah that's actually really

dope i want to get back into philosophy

but i started off with like

post-modernist shit and i feel like i

didn't have a solid enough material base

to be able to

do anything useful with it and so this

helps a lot because i just wasn't sure

especially about like the

like what would you say about like the

connections between

modernity and like american unipolarity

because i know that you i've seen you

talk about that before

but you know i'm not like the most

philosophically well-versed so

two things right america is

is modernity it's another name for

modernity right america is a completely

artificial

country

it's called the united states of america

right like

an american country like peru it's

called peru it's a real country right

america

is just called the united states of

america

so it has the abstraction and negation

of modernity at the very beginning right

and then um

but also paradoxically

america is also

an inherently post-modern country

because it takes for granted this modern

what's called this modern change this

modern revolution that somehow has

annihilated

the whole past

and it takes that for granted as its

starting point and then it builds based

on that

and

that is what makes it post-modern it's

like already in a way beyond it because

it takes it for granted and it's now

whatever change is happening in america

like whatever development is going on in

america in the 20th century

all these cities being built and all

these projects and all this shit

happening

that is

taking modernity for granted and it's uh

after modernity it's inherently

post-modern

so um

i think uh i think there's a weird

relationship there

but um

overall i think i think there's it's i

think it's it's defined by a

contradiction though because

see the british

had a very

uh

scary relation to modernity which was

based on empiricism right this idea we

can only know reality based on sense

based on like scientific certainty

of the world everything else is

meaningless right

and

from there you have social darwinism you

have racial racialism you have uh

everything else all that other nasty

shit that comes from britain

but america

is a pragmatic

country basically the difference between

that and the english

utilitarianism

this you know the utility we're going to

take everything and subordinate that

toward you know some higher ends right

whether it's empiricism or whatever

utilitarian

the pragmatic view in america is just

we will not make any assumptions about

reality

um whatsoever

no assumptions about reality

uh we will just

we will just um see what works

if something works

it's good

if it doesn't work

it's no good right

so then it's about work it's about can

this thing

reproduce itself can this thing

uh

exist somehow

i think that's interesting more

interesting kind of modernity right

because uh

sir it's not based on the same kind of

certainty

um

it just allows us to suspend assumptions

suspend your

assumption and um

i think that's why it's uh

close

that's why communists drew a lot from

america i think wow and the bolsheviks

yeah and like the foundations of

londonism don't they say like an

american

um i figured like this specific like

phrase right but it mentions like an

american like uh tenacity or something

like that yeah stalin he was asked i

think and he was like bolsheviks we are

a combination of american pragmatism and

russian

yeah striving to greatness something

like that

but

to me that's the problem of america as

well

the problem is

okay what about after that right after

um

see that the the extremely paradoxical

thing about our country is that

we

uh

we're stuck in limbo limbo is what

defines our country if you want to know

what the cultural aesthetic of america

is

artistically every kind of way it's just

it's like 7 11 at 3 a.m some fucking gas

station at 3am that's america

you're just in this limbo where it's not

necessarily meaningless

it's just

you're caught in this um

strange purgatory right

and the reason that for that is because

uh

china and soviet union they

took everything good from america and

then

having that as their basis they

discovered an authentic

serial reality right

soviet union it's the russian

civilization from the pre-op

peter the great westernization and china

it's obviously the rejuvenation of the

ancient

chinese civilization

so they begin with american pragmatic

abstraction

we're not making any assumptions and

okay we don't make any assumptions but

after not making assumptions we

discovered a positive reality we didn't

it wasn't bouzwan nationalism where we

arrogantly impose this on reality we are

we discovered this from reality right

we we said we're against nationalism

we don't care about conservatism we

don't care about culture and then once

we suspended our judgment and and said

all that you know

wow

look

now i understand how we're russians now

i understand how we're chinese we

discovered it

right

the problem with america is that america

has not

gotten it hasn't gone to that point

somehow it's stuck

in the

suspend judgment and then uh

what after right

and the danger with that is that our

anglophilic elites

love britain this is why britain is the

biggest poison on our country this is

why i hate the influence of the uk on

our country

because they turn this limbo this

uncertainty into a form of certainty

just like the british have with their

empiricism like

the pragmatism of ah it works also then

becomes

uh

this is all that works

right you kind of get that with this

idea like

this american system is the only thing

that could ever work right

but then it also takes the form of this

legalism

which is kind of like

yeah all this um national realities

across the world the chinese oh that's

meaningless those are just dictatorships

arbitrary dictatorships the only thing

that's real

is you know what we can measure through

um science somehow right

and then the only real legitimate

political system is is what we can

measure through the ballot box right

politically so

and then you get george soros the open

society so this disgusting marriage

between america and britain

has catapulted the united states into

the premier

genocidal empire of all human history

rivaling even the british empire right

in the 20th century

up to today

the level of destruction and carnage on

iraq and libya

also through this terrorism against the

people of the world

through these more indirect means that

america does right

sanctions and uh fuckery with ngos all

the stuff they do at the u.n to

underdeveloped countries and all this

kind of shit

it's this big hydra monster right

to me american patriotism has always

been about

destroying the british

influence in this country and asserting

a new independence

which will also destroy the american

empire because to me the american empire

is a unity between

britain and uh america so what if we can

have this divorce we can destroy the

american empire and return to our limbo

and what we do in our limbo who knows

right

that's our problem we have to think

about it

but at least we should have the freedom

to be

in limbo instead of

instead of adopting the the certainty

of

the british

yeah wow um

that was a lot but i'm glad that this is

like recorded because i'll definitely

like

you know go back through the tape and

probably like take notes just because

i'm a chronic like don't take it but

thank you for

really explaining that because you know

like i said earlier i've been trying to

get you know into like philosophy once

again but with an actual you know

stronger material base because when i

was like starting with like

post-modernism and like all these

different ideas i was a senior in high

school and i had just learned like i had

just like read like something like

judith butler which ironically i don't

know i think that i think that she's

like an ideologue for american

imperialism i think that she like i

think that she like misunderstands

gender um she just has a really bad

takes um and i i don't think that like

enough transsexuals push back against

her but that's

completely and then

and then the other guy is fuco that

pedophile

oh yeah no no no no no

hear me out here

like one i hate bald people i think that

bald people are like incredibly fucking

annoying because it's like you don't

have hair on your head and you're gonna

try to tell me something nigga like

nobody that's a boy who's balding and i

don't worry i'm getting a hair

transplant so uh

it'll be cured but um

no balding is a disease i've always said

this i've always said

if you bald it is your fault

and it's some it reflects

uh no no i have a serious take it

reflects a flaw in your soul

and that flaw is

uh you

you have somehow adopted this

universalism of modernity

where

you um

you don't pay enough attention to

particular things you don't have an

appreciation for particular things i

have a theory that each strand of hair

on your head

represents an acknowledgement within

your soul of some aspect of particular

reality like some awareness of

like when you go outside you're like oh

damn what beautiful grass and what

beautiful trees that's all that's a

strand on your hair when you acknowledge

that right bald people they're

destructive bald people want to destroy

the whole world because they're so

certain about

one one specific idea they have right

and that comes at the expense of any

appreciation for the world so

that's my theory when you become bald

it's your fault and i acknowledge it is

my fault that i'm bald but

uh i replace my insomnia my insomnia and

uh

the way streaming has gotten in the way

of

of being able to finish my books right

because if i finish my books uh

my hair would probably grow back

because i'd be able to relax

if you stopped like yelling so much i

mean i think it's funny but i know that

your blood pressure has to be like

through the roof like isn't it

yeah no no i i became aware i was

balding in 2019

and i had a big reflection

self-reflection about it like

i had a big self-criticism like

what was wrong with me to

lead to this

and um

i realized the problem

you know i think that that's actually a

really good take because i don't know

very many bald people that have

something to live for they're gonna be

unironic like everybody i know without

hair

is like very destructive they don't

really care about life and you can just

see it and like the way that they

navigate this world um even like

like even like lenin right because

people are saying like lyndon was bold

and it's like look at how he died right

he couldn't even use his fucking legs

lennon yeah i'm not saying bald people

can't be great

but lenin was not stalin lennon just

destroyed

he was a destroyer mostly right

but stalin was the the guy who was a

good statesman now leonard's his

significance can't be underplayed

because there's always necessary

destruction

but i think we've gone we've moved past

the need for bald

today because that uh baldness whether

lenin or mao it was necessary in history

but now we have people like xi jinping

now we had people like che guevara these

are all people who

have dialectically

um

surpassed in the indeterminate negation

of modernity and now

represent uh the negation of negation

right so xi jinping has not even just

that but like kim jong-un like yeah i

initially got so much respect for him

because

he's like the only politician in asia

like this nigga has a fade like he has

an actual fade yeah and like the world

the world is terrified of him i think

that like he might be the nigga on the

planet with the most drip like currently

like i fuck with him so hard he is

mlm he's really like like i want to be

like him like he lost weight and people

were like oh no he's gonna like blow up

our country like he he's that nigga like

he is him i like him did you see his new

outfit

the white one not put me on but

yeah his closet is crazy

yeah

yeah that is drip

i fuck with him like so much like i'm

well that's not like a hot take for you

obviously

i never understood like the hate because

like he's he's like a young how old is

he he's like what like 23

he's like he's 23 no way he's got to be

like 30 years he's a millennial no kim

jong-un is a

millennial he's not alone age no way

he's 23. he's 38 i don't think he's oh

he's 38 yeah he's 38.

i feel like after you turned 25 i

started slowly losing respect for you

because like why are you that i think

it's with like twitter i think you'd be

like over 25 on twitter you're kind of

like

like what are you doing yeah you know no

you're right

i turned 26

uh

a few months

so i have time left after that

after that i'll be back you're 25

yeah

i thought you're really closer to my age

because i'm 20

no i'm 25.

um

but i i never was act i never knew what

it i never was uh public on the internet

until 2021

so i never like knew i never uh

understood

how it works you know

i used to the thing i used to do on

twitter is talk as much shit as i can

and anger as many people as i could

troll as much as i could

and i just wanted to test it at first

no i'm a little more careful now but at

first i just wanted to test what the

limits are like

uh how

how uh much would people care how much

would this upset people

and then and now i'm kind of have to

be a little smarter i guess

but the most fun i had was

when i first started on twitter that was

the most

easily but then people started taking

shit seriously and i was like okay yeah

now i got to be more responsible and

shit

um because i i used to i thought at

first like no one would take this

seriously no one's gonna give a fuck

like

nobody's gonna like actually

draw these like huge conclusions and

read so much into shit and then once

they started doing that i was like oh my

god i don't want all this like yeah it

wasn't that deep you know

but i i got the i got i got what i was

looking for you know i got the limits

that i was looking for

understand how it works

yeah and i mean like you are

by far the most

chaotic person on my timeline like every

time i see your tweets i'm like hear

this nigga go again

yeah like i'm not mad at it like you

know you bring like actual

like personality to my timeline i kind

of appreciate it it's just you know

unhinged but i fuck with it

yeah

on on reddit i've always gone viral and

shit like people always share that thing

i said about video games where i was

like you know which one i'm talking

about

is it the one where you're talking about

like holy men like yeah niggas like

nintendo's yo that would have been

crying

yeah but you know like people on reddit

uh

and even on twitter they're like

they actually they actually took it

seriously and they're like oh my god is

has gonna come to my house or some shit

he better not because i'll fucking

i'll uh i'll do the castle doctrine or

whatever

and they're they're actually like well i

don't think it's really moral to put

them in prison and like they're debating

it and shit and like damn

you can really just say anything on

twitter and people

people will treat it like a crisis

yeah i saw some of the responses to the

tweet where you said that eldon ring was

satanic and niggas really losing their

mind

look at this look at this stalinist scum

like trying to trying to ban things you

have reductive takes on art and i didn't

really take it seriously i was like oh

like this is a crazy combination of

words i don't know the funny thing is

that like

i played elden right now have i have

like 30 hours in that game so i played

it i played alden ring

that's you know i don't know people

um

i just don't get why they're so

sensitive about it who gives a fuck

what

you know i played elden ring but i'm not

going to stand by it and be like this is

a political right

like you know what i mean like uh

it's not really that deep

i mean yeah i mean i don't really like

video games personally like i'll play

them once every

like couple months but yeah i've never

been like a super super like hardcore

gamer it's just not for me i guess but

i always like those tweets for you like

elden is satanic like like i i renounce

those and people like take it seriously

oh and i just think about that tweet

like once a day i don't know what the

fuck goes on in your head like

you

were even dropped on your head like when

you were younger like

like something had to happen every every

tweet

has a

deeper meaning to be deciphered

and if

it's it's all based on magic i'm

manipulating people's minds i know this

is the thing how i work right

i get the reaction i want

which is

outrage but i'm secretly reprogramming

their unconscious and changing the

threshold it's almost like mental trauma

that's it's mk old for it's being used

to re-engineer people's minds

and uh that's why i'm starting to kind

of see people slowly start to kind of

start saying my takes start saying

things that i've said before

and i mean i had you blocked at one

point and then i unblocked you because i

was like maybe i'm doing too much and i

was like okay i'm gonna follow because

you know you have like some pretty

interesting takes and then you know i

think that they coincided with like me

like a little bit and not like arguing

online so much but i think it's

different because i feel like with you

you just kind of

started to actually like think like oh

wait let me think about this most people

don't do that

but

for most people for me i'm just glad

i've caused enough distress

to like force them to think that a lot

of things that don't matter like now

there's a lot of people that go to bed

every night that are like

damn are we gonna live in a future where

holy men come and break my nintendo like

i have put that in their head

and

they

i randomly thought of that and now they

have to live with that as a possibility

like to

to um

address as a discourse but to me

every if you want to know the secret of

my tweets

almost everything i make is a as a form

of terrorism against discourse

all i really want to do is to show

people how

uh the discourse they're participating

in just the form of it

has no relationship to reality at all

there's no

there's no relationship between the

discourse the slogans

uh all that shit and actual reality

you're just basically

offstring virtue singling

uh to others for social capital but like

you're not saying anything

that has any practical relation like

it's when when people say like we need

to do this that

you're not actually suggesting anyone

does anything

because there's no connection between

what people do

what's said on twitter

you're just

inhabiting a fake world of discourse

so to me i just

i do the limits of discourse to uh show

people

that there's nothing

basically

yeah i think you i think you get it with

twitter like

i know you structure your tweets in such

a way where it's like specifically to

like evoke a reaction

but like yeah when i read them like it

gets a reaction out of me but it's not

necessarily a negative one i'm just like

oh man this nigga is funny as hell

yeah like when you link like the

mongolian music under like the nintendo

tweet i was like okay

yeah yeah

yeah but um

but i you know believe it or not i get

so depressed a lot as well

um why are you

because

sometimes

i see people react

where

they it flies over their heads so much

that i just

it makes me feel like we live in a very

miserable world where it's like

you literally

um

cannot

appreciate the humor of it like you

you actually are in this miserable world

where like you take this shit so

seriously

completely missing the point entirely

and you're like basically like

you're you you know let me put it this

way you know when you go into you you

walk into a room

and you tell a joke and then there's

that one person who's like actually my

my dad did die

it's like oh shit my bad

i didn't i didn't think it was like that

that's what i mean when it kind of makes

me depressed like

uh oh no definitely yeah when i made a

tweet i was like you can't support

decolonization and still do missionary

and a bunch of like christian

nationalists and like tricast they were

in my replies and they're like what the

fuck do you mean and then there's like a

section of communist twitter they were

like you're a fake decolonial person i

was like bro it's a joke

it's not that serious

yeah no there was one recently where i

was like

i was making fun of someone else because

they were like this is going to cause

anti-american sentiment across the world

i was like yeah that's my mutual

yeah i made a tweet and i was like

there's terror cells forming in the

congo as we speak

um

which are planning uh another 911

because of repealing roe v wade

and then the the pat sock moment account

screenshotted that and it got like a

thousand likes

uh and

all the comments were like why would

people in the congo care

this guy's stupid this guy's such an

idiot

and that

bugs me because like i think

like i don't hate that account

necessarily

because i don't really pay attention to

it but i think that it takes a lot of

moments of like very clear irony and it

like posts it for like a dunk and i

think it's kind of like cheap i mean

granted it's a gimmick account but like

sometimes like i'll see your tweets like

on there and they'll be like for like

people that i follow

and i'm like this isn't serious

yeah like it's really a joke

yeah and then um another another thing

you know one the one thing i hate that

they do there's two things i hate about

that account

so the first thing is uh

how 90 of their followers are ukraine

emoji nato libs right

that's what i will never forgive

like they're pretty much just pandering

to them overwhelmingly

and pretending to be marvelous

then the second thing i hate about that

account is they'll literally take random

people

that have nothing to do with us

like some random guy who's like uh

calling himself

a nationalist uh

i don't fucking know nationalist

italian fascist or some shit well yeah

that's a pain that's a pat sock

like some like guy who's like yeah i

don't think that holocaust thing some

like weird shit there's like nothing to

do with our community at all

and they'll be like yeah this is a pat

sock and they're like why is that a

passing well pat socks are basically

fascist anyway we're just gonna take

like any literally anyone's tweet

uh who's you know

explicitly a neo-nazi and we're gonna

say that's pat socks

and then people are like oh is that

houses community damn

you know so that that's the second thing

i hate about it

yeah no i i do well i don't really pay

attention to it so i can't really you

know agree or disagree but i do think

that like they post obvious fate

and they sort of try and frame it's like

something that's serious and i think

that it's just

i won't say that it's very online

because i use the internet a lot and i'm

like a very online person but i think

there's like levels to it right like

there's there's like scrolling through

your timeline a lot and then there's

like

and then there's like spending all day

running a gimmick account so that you

can argue with other people

for likes on the internet do you get

what i mean like yeah i think that's

like a different level of being online

it's like running like well this might

offend but it's like having like a

discord server right like you gotta be

pretty online to have a discord server

right but like there's levels to it that

you could be like a normal nigga with

discord and then you could be like the

stereotypical like discord admin where

you're like having a sex like

well i mean we we've been um

we ban all that we don't

yeah that's something we decided pretty

early on is like

there is there can literally be no

sexual content

and we literally have to make it a rule

also that there can't you just can't be

weird in general because we don't know

all of the things people do on discord

you said don't be weird don't have an

anime profile picture

uh no sexual content whatsoever

um

and you have to be over 18 that's

well

but um

but like over 18 usually means like oh

there's gonna be one supporting shit

like no over 18

it's still a puritanical

server where you can you cannot

be creepy at all with that about

anything you can't be there's no sexual

content allowed at all so we don't want

children because

you know

they're impressionable and you know they

just kind

of are annoying as well

and also it's it's fertile ground for

grooming i think regardless right

because people are always like forming

connections

and friend requests so we don't want

anything to do with that

but um but yeah no i did but you know

discord is the um

the biggest uh

it's the most

federally controlled

platform of anything even more than

facebook

oh really the most fbi agents easily

yeah

discord is where it's happening

or the it's the it glows the most out of

anything else right but the reason

the reason uh you know i have to use it

over telegram is just because

there's so many goddamn people on

discord it's like fucking

a trillion goddamn discord users

and uh but yeah

that's i'm gonna go to bed because

i'm getting pretty tired but thank you

for the interaction thank you for you

know obviously explaining so much

because i know i did ask a lot yeah no

problem

how did you have a nice rest of your day

you know

yeah youtube

see you

hi guys one more thing i wanted to say

um

basically wanted to talk about um

some of the things that you know

a lot of my haters do say that that do

have grains of truth to it so one of the

things my haters say that's true is

basically

all right y'all we did an entire stream

like this but we're gonna actually go

through our donors

play doughnut

base thank you box this is genuinely a

great convo i think i'm going to cut it

out to listen to again later thanks for

staying a bit later tonight us thank you

so much so fox chris marlon thank you so

much for that vibe

middle peasantry was the american

frontier in order to make statehood the

elite had to distribute land they were

not considered americans yet

yeah

you're right

thank you so much chris morlock

appreciate you guys thank you guys so

much for those donations supporting the

stream

and i really appreciate it when

y'all oh

y'all are making this shit possible

thank you guys

and then look look what happens when

y'all look what happens with these

beautiful donations right it can't we

get a big head house we get a camera

right so

this is uh

investing in the means of production

now on so we keep big head has forever

so one's in the chat if we should keep

big head has

as the default streaming thing forever

or should we revert back

to full body hots

what should we do

two for keeping big head haws sorry one

for keeping big head haws two for

reverting back

that's a lot of twos

abe

dude

dude

abe

yo

thank you man

thank you so much man

damn

i gave an inch and twitter stretched a

mile forgive my drunk postcon gorilla

son

thank you

you didn't yeah you didn't mean i didn't

think you meant anything either man

thank you so much said you were just

you didn't mean that by it you didn't

mean anything offensive

um

yeah i just it looked bad

but i'm sure you didn't mean anything i

think you just

were probably talking about

the gorilla sun community in some

capacity

yeah i think so

that's what i think as well

thank you man i appreciate you so much

you know how these people will be so bad

faith even they got so bad to borrow i'm

like hey what does that even mean but

that's because they just read too much

into it right

but thank you so much man i appreciate

you so much thank you man

so it looks like you all want me to zoom

back out

which i democracy

calls

this is me zoomed out and i kind of like

zoomed in better right

y'all think

but the quality is phenomenal is it not

i look like richard matthews

i mean i i don't look like him but like

my shit my setup looks like richard

medvers

hey guys

it's looking good

all right guys

oh check it out check out what happens

when i shut the white off

still bright as fuck

anyway

look how bright it is when i shut it off

isn't that fucking sick

and it's not yellow

i can have it shut off and it still

looks good and it's not gonna be yellow

let me actually test this what's this

isn't it crazy how like this still

works

and the fucking

everything's shut off and this still

works

it's fucking insane

let's check it out

wait

welcome

dark horse

welcome to my paradise

reflecting

we're gonna do halloween streams it's

gonna be sick as fuck guys

i'm gonna do halloween streams and oh my

god

but um

trap suey thank you so much man

thank you so much trap seaweed

have you ever heard of the order of

sofianic

have i heard of it i started that order

no that is a real thing what the fuck

i thought that was something i made up

looks like an eflux thing

dude this is fucking robbed for me what

the fuck this is like a hyperstation

you know what i'm reading this now and i

might sue

i might fucking sue

this was my shit

what the fuck

i have unpublished shit

bruh

bruh

someone's gonna get sued okay

i do not have blue eyes i have green

eyes you guys not know i had green eyes

i have green eyes

by the way thank you so much trap suite

but by the way guys y'all think about me

y'all ever think about me

i don't think y'all think about me do

you think about me

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