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and I'm Huss, stop right there. Show me your hand. Show me your hand right now. Show me your hands. We got you. You are under arrest by the FBI for hurting the feeling of Nick Fuentes. We got

you. You cannot run

any longer. You try to

scrup that he's got. Cash Patel

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hurt the feeling of the Nick

funded cat boy. The cat boy

here feeling he's crying.. Stop at you are under arrest right now.

Has! Cash Patel has found you. Casabatel, you're going to jail and you're going to be deported in jail.

You think you can...

Do you really think you can delete the discord and get away with it?

But you're hurting the feeling of Nick Fendant.

You're going to jail right now, Haas.

No, God, I'm sorry, Kash Patel.

I'm sorry, it's a misunderstanding.

Please, can I do one more stream before I get taken away?

Okay, you know, I will tell you right now that in Valhalla, we'll do it one more stream,

and then you'll go to jail because you are making fun of the little boy.

The poor boy, Nick Fuentes, you are bullying him.

You'll make fun of this boy and you're going to jail because you're hurting his feeling.

Okay, Cash Patel, I understand.

I understand that's how the law works, okay?

But I want to do one more stream before I get hauled off to prison.

Is that okay?

Okay, fine.

It's okay.

Okay?

You can do one more thing and it will be okay, and then you can...

Okay, what's up?

Yo, Red Guardian, Orbital, Slow Mo, Showgunners, Shattering Hegemony.

With the five each.

How y'all doing? What's up?

What up, y'all?

Sorry for that interruption.

Cash Patel, he came to my...

He came to my place, and he was saying I'm under arrest for hurting the boy Nick Fuentes' feelings.

He's such an innocent boy.

He's such a wondrous boy.

He's such an innocent boy. He's such a wondrous boy. He's such an innocent boy.

He's just such a...

No one can ever speak bad about him.

Yeah.

You know, because the Groyper's...

He's a leader.

Do we have the whithping?

Guys, Nick Fuentes is so inspiring

to retards.

Yo, JK, what's going on?

Yeah, guys, sorry.

The stream was briefly interrupted because

Cash Patel came. He's taking me to jail.

He's going to deport me because I hurt Nick Fuentes'

feelings. And he said that he, he's like,

the FBI cannot even find the discord. Huss, what are you doing? You deleted all of the evidence.

What is going? Hit, what's going out of the five? He's like, sorry, Cash. You know, he came and he's like,

you know, you are interfering with the investigation.

You deleted the general chat

two days after the shooting.

I am 100% sure

all of the evidence is in that general chat

and we cannot find it.

It is beyond that ability, technological technological ability i call all of the

call centers in bangalore india and we cannot find it all of the calls and that bangalore new

delhi we cannot find it is got general chat you're going to jail for a long time and i guess i'm going to jail for a long time.

And I guess I'm going to jail right after the stream, guys.

The Groypers are right, you know.

Cash Patel.

Why did you delete it?

Why did you delete it? Why did you delete it?

Do not redeem it.

Why did you redeem it?

I totally thwarted Cash Patel, guys.

I don't know.

I got in the way of the evidence.

It's all my general chat on the infrared Discord.

Everything.

Everything.

Everything.

The whole thing.

I mean, even the fucking 9-11, everything.

Every horrible thing that's ever happened. It was in my general chat in in the two-day window

after charlie kirk's assassination um who did 9-11 all that stuff is in there everything every crime ever committed in the world and i concealed it

i i redeemed it cash petal is really upset i redeemed it um i'm sorry for laughing i'm going to jail

right after the stream because i got caught the groyper said i'm going to jail so I'm going to jail right after the stream because I got caught.

The Groyper said I'm going to jail, so I'm going to jail.

It's just how it works.

Well, guys, let's get a little serious here.

Why don't we?

Let's get a little serious.

Nick Fuentes on his generational run, he

stumbled over a little bit.

He kind of tumbled down the stairs.

He's getting wiped by Candice Owens.

Candice Owens the other night,

what did she get at $290,000 concurrent on YouTube, real views?

And then the boy wonder, his views halved, and now they're just lowering.

But I talked a lot about it on my last stream.

I talked about how he's covering for Israel.

I talked about how he's in Israel Shil.

But in all seriousness, let's talk about some of the problems in his reasoning.

I think Candice Owens, I think Max Blumenthal, I think

even Ian Carroll, and obviously Jackson, I think they've all provided some pretty convincing

evidence that points in the direction that an Israel angle should at least be considered and it should at least be entertained.

It's not an absolute, you know, nobody's saying it's absolute proof. If we had absolute proof, they wouldn't be able to get away with it.

But it's enough to raise some suspicion. proof. If we had absolute proof, they wouldn't be able to get away with it.

But it's enough to raise some suspicion. I mean, I think the whole thing is suspicious.

Whether it's Israel that did it, whether it was the government that did it to do a years of lead type of thing. The whole thing is very suspicious.

And the reports coming from Charlie's, you know, close friends

that knew him.

And, you know, these, I

think, what's his name? Ron

Eunz, is his name Ron?

He said that he got a credible source that said, you know, there's a lot of people in, even in the White House, White House officials that think Israel was responsible for this, according to the UNS report.

So nobody's saying it's absolute proof. He's like, where's the evidence, right?

I was like, well, no one's saying there's absolute proof. We're just saying like,

there's enough here to raise a few eyebrows. There's enough here that warrants suspicion.

There's enough here that at least deserves consideration.

Now, here's the kicker, right?

I mean, you could be a diehard Nick Fuentes fan.

I know many of those are beyond the threshold of psychosis.

Like, they're not even able to reason anymore, right?

Uh, that's okay.

You like, you straight up have psychosis.

Like, maybe you were a drug addict or something.

Maybe you were, um,

maybe there's something going on

that makes you depend upon this little weird boy

this weird little kid

this weird little cat boy in his basement

anyway

but doesn't it at least make you a little suspicious

when he says, I am not going to entertain the Israel angle because there's no evidence. He's like,

well, there's no evidence for it. He's like, well, they're all

running with this with a predetermined conclusion, and there's no evidence for it, right?

So that's a really interesting threshold and standard of evidence there, despite the fact

that Charlie Kirk reportedly thought Israel was like threatening his life,

despite the fact that almost everything about the details surrounding the shooting itself are super weird and look like a cover-up.

There's stuff about the ballistics and the bullet, and it's just, it's all so strange, right?

There's new footage of the shooter who is at, what, a 7-Eleven or something, a gas station, 17 minutes away after the shooting.

He was super calm.

A lot of it's just very odd.

The whole thing about the out-of-state license plates, which Nick Fuentes chalked up to a transgender furry cult or something.

I don't know.

Well, Jackson has obviously been very active in drawing attention to the Israel angle alongside

others.

But Nick Fuentes, no, he's silent about it, right?

Nick Fuentes is silent about it because it's not a sufficient standard of evidence for him.

All the things they've provided that at least warrant like you know

there's a probability here that this could

very possibly be the case right

but for Nick Flentes

none of that is enough

none of that is enough

okay

I guess Nick Flentes cares a lot about the facts i guess he just has a very

high standard of evidence beyond which if it doesn't cross this threshold of evidence he'll say

which is in his own words frankly it's ridiculous that's what he said right he said it was ridiculous

okay now bear with me here you could be a diehard fan of this kid i don't care just

try to think objectively about this i hate to be the bearer of bad news that this kid is compromised and he got the call

and he's a zio shill and he's running cover for israel but i think i have some pretty

indisputable proof ready tell me why he lays out that this is his threshold of evidence.

Now, tell me why.

Not days.

Not days after extolling his very, you know, fact-based, evidence-based threshold of evidence.

He's straight up, not only does he straight up imply that he's certain that this kid, that I basically killed Charlie Kirk, that Haas Aldeen killed Charlie Kirk, the most charitable interpretation of his claim would be that the kid, you know, came from our community.

But he's basically saying I killed Charlie Kirk, like that I did it, okay?

He's saying the infrared community did it. He's saying ACP did it. And what

is his threshold of evidence

that Stephen Crowder

said so on Mug Club?

But where's the evidence?

He didn't provide any. He did say

that Haas wiped, he said, they wiped the servers after the assassination.

And I've talked about this last stream.

I've talked about it constantly.

Two days after the assassination, after we were getting raided, after plenty of violent content depicting the shooting was being shared in the general chat, after people were talking very callously about it, and I don't mean making fun of it. I just mean describing it and talking about it,

and it's a violent event, and we have a zero-tolerance policy

on talking about violent things.

We have a zero-tolerance policy on, like, graphic descriptions, you know,

of violent things going on.

We have a zero tolerance policy

about, you know, people,

they need to be careful because, you know,

these platforms are pretty strict

about that kind of thing.

We're pretty consistent in terms of how we enforce

the rules. That's why, like,

after the Iran, Israel spat, we deleted General.

I mean, we delete, we wipe General all the time.

It's a regular thing.

Whenever there's a violent event that happens.

But I'm sure I was responsible for the Iran

10-day war as well,

you know?

So Nick Fuentes claims

that because I wiped general

chat two days after the assassination,

that's a sufficient standard of evidence

to point in the direction.

A few things, right?

Everything like stems from this.

He claims, I killed Charlie Kirk.

Then he implies, then he says Jackson did it.

Then he implies there's a conspiracy of Candice, Tucker Carlson, Max Blumenthal, and Russia.

That basically Russia is behind this.

And he, all of this stems from me wiping the general chat of my discord, which is the infrared discord.

There's no ACP discord.

Two days after the assassination.

We go from that to Russia did it.

And he's like heavily implying that Russia did it.

And the strange, what I find strange about that is,

why does he not have a similar threshold of entertaining, like, plausible things when it comes to Israel.

Like, wouldn't he at least kind of just be at least, like, suspicious that Israel did it?

Why is he suspicious?

He's not suspicious, by the way.

You look at his tweets.

He said that Jackson Hinkle is going to jail.

It's not suspicion.

He's waging and staking his entire career on this claim that everyone is going to jail me jackson hyacson piker we're all going to jail because

we killed charlie kirk and he's absolutely certain of this but he will not entertain whatsoever in any kind of way.

He won't entertain it.

The possibility that Israel might be involved in this.

I feel like I'm being pretty reasonable here.

I feel like this is like pretty clear cut and dry case of a Zionist cuck and shill running cover for Israel. Like even if you're a fan of this kid, I don't even know what angle you can come from. How can you say there's not enough evidence, therefore I'm going to dismiss the

Israel angle as ridiculous, and then turn around, and so like recklessly and like adamantly

with so much certainty be like Jackson Hinkle did it, and I'm going to publicly claim he's going

to jail over it

which is funny

I mean

it's kind of like a childlike delusion

to just be like

you're going to jail

I don't like you

you're in Meanie I don't like you you're going to jail. I don't like you. You're in Meanie.

I don't like you.

You're going to jail.

It's like a childlike delusion you would expect from like either a child or like a special needs retard or something.

But it does events that Nick Fuentes, you know, he has a level of, he's claiming to be certain about this.

Why would you like say this unless you're signaling, you're saying you're certain of this. You're saying it's like

true that there's, that he was in your discord, he was in your community, he was a member of your

party. It's like, but what was the standard of evidence you used to arrive at that conclusion?

And compare that to the evidence we have that there could potentially be

involvement by Israel and i i read a report that apparently there were 12 israeli linked cell phones

at the site i haven't confirmed it. There's the cooperation with foreign intelligence. I wonder what foreign intelligence. Is this a regional thing? Was Mexico involved or something? I mean, Mexico is pretty far away.

Was it Canada? I don't know. What was the foreign intelligence agency that was involved

coordinating with

federal law enforcement in the manhunt?

I find it really strange.

I even think at this point,

Normies are looking at Netanyahu's recent video,

and they're like,

what the fuck?

This is super weird.

Like, the way Netanyahu's denying involvement

is extremely suspicious and uh this kid he is like

attacking candace he's attacking tucker he's attacking Max Blumenthal.

And this is about the facts, by the way. This is just about integrity. Like, are you a liar or are you a bullshitter that just makes shit up and has zero credibility or integrity?

Put the ideology aside for a second, but we can get into that. I have no problem

getting into that. Let's just put it aside for 10 seconds and just be like, even from a

perspective of just like if you care about integrity, if you just care about like being a credible

source for anything.

This kid is extremely suss.

He has no credibility.

He staked and waged his entire career on the claim that Jackson Hinkle killed Charlie

Kirk, that me and Jackson and potentially Russia and Max Blumenthal and Candice Owens and Tucker Carlson and every other person, I guess, who's hurt his feelings in his entire life, did this.

Like, this is, I'm just giving you straight up facts. If you can can't accept the facts i don't know what to tell you

and look there's a reason this kid is running from me there's a reason he's scared of me because in a

debate i would confront him with shit like this i confront him with all of the gaps in his reasoning, all the gaps in his worldview that

he just can't account for or explain. And he would look like a sad, pathetic retard attempting to

defend himself. Let's bring on this person, VIR. Go ahead. I need a co-host to see the other

people in this

go ahead

go ahead and speak

go ahead and speak

go ahead and speak

what's going on go ahead on each Go ahead and speak.

What's going on?

Go ahead.

Unite yourself.

Okay.

Yeah.

There we go.

What I think I appreciate about this is that nobody claims to know

anything. Like, it's all up in the air. Yes, it is.

Okay, but... Hold on, sir. I got to cut you off.

I'm claiming, I don't know with an absolute certainty, who killed Charlie Kirk, but

Nick Flentes is claiming that he does know this, in fact.

He claims he knows who killed Charlie Kirk. He claims that it was me and Jackson and my party that killed Charlie Kirk.

That's what he's claiming. He's waging his whole career

on this claim.

You should me?

I am not shitting you, sir. You go into his replies

and you go into his telegram

and he is saying that telegram and he is saying

that we, our party is behind

the claim that Israel's involved.

We had no coordination

with Candace Owens by the way, but he's saying we're involved

because we're trying to cover up the fact

that he was a member of our party and that

we basically did this.

And he's replying to Jackson. You look at his latest replies.

And he's saying, you're going to jail forever.

So, I guess what I'm really asking is is this really like the reczag fire for real i i don't know if he's that connected

um to where like this is a regime thing going on.

I would, you know what I'm really curious about?

I'm just, I don't have any fear at all.

At this point, it's like a morbid curiosity.

I would love to know how we could even be framed for something like this.

Like, how are you going to convince the world that the people, when you first get them on Google search, are being called transphobic, homophobic, socially conservative?

There's people that call us fascists.

How are you going to convince the world that we killed Charlie Kirk because we're so

passionate about transgender rights?

Like, how are you going to convince, how would, how could you frame us for

something like that? Honestly, if someone killed Nick Fuentes, I would be worried about someone

framing us for that. I'm not going to lie. Like, we actually have beef with that kid. Obviously,

I don't advocate for violence. Obviously, nobody, obviously, I would disavow anyone who engages in political violence.

And, you know, we're not about that.

That's not how we roll.

But, like, Charlie Kirk and the transgender angle, it's so out there. I don't

know how you could possibly even like

how, why would you

like wager your public

reputation on

making the accusation

that it was us of all the factions of the

left that you're trying to blame. Blaming

us would be the most retarded thing.

And if Mossad is truly

like the most advanced, powerful, whatever

in the world, at this point, I'm just

curious about like how they would even come

up with something like that. Like I just genuinely like, I'm just curious about how they would even come up with something

like that. I just genuinely, like,

I couldn't even imagine it myself. I just

want to see how that's even possible.

Can I say

like, all right, so you identify as part of the left right i'm a man of the left i'm a man of

the left i'm left wing absolutely but we are the part of the left that just so happens to be

extremely skeptical of uh identity politics and like

you know the the the woke culture war stuff we're just not into it and because of that fact we

routinely get labeled as bigots and fascists and whatever.

My Wikipedia identifies me as so. Our Wikipedia for our party identifies us as socially conservative. It's like maybe Mossad, maybe like Philip Cross needs to just go on the wiki

and just be like, they are fervent champions and

passionate advocates of transgender rights they need to like erase all the stuff that says we're

like socially conservative and we're bigots and they need to like really quickly just i guess

frame us as like

violently passionate

about transgenderism

I don't know how that would work

there's just so much evidence

to the contrary I don't know maybe it's like

a maybe it's like a maybe it's might have... They might have like one of those quantum time machines

that are the reason for the Mandela effect. You know, like the Bernstein Bears and whether Nelson Mandela was in prison or not, they might have one of those

time machine devices and they could just reset reality itself where we live in a reality

where Haas and Jackson and ACP and Maga communists are just the most passionate, violent extremists for transgender rights,

and that we're really mad at Charlie Kirk for just being insufficiently progressive on social

issues like transgenderism and LGBT rights

maybe they have that kind of

time machine and it will work, I don't know.

So

where do you actually

follow on trans rights?

I do not give a shit about transgender.

I don't know what trans rights

mean. I feel like the U.S. has always

had rights for

like transgenderism at no

point has been outlawed. I'm not interested

in any special new rights.

And I'm deaf, and I have been very vocal about the fact that I don't believe that children should be involved in any of it. I've been pretty consistent on that.

I don't think that children can make those kind of decisions,

and I feel like it's a pretty reasonable position.

That's my personal opinion.

And yeah, that's it.

I mean, I don't have like a special hatred of transgender.

I don't hate them. I don't have it out for them. I don't have like a special hatred of transgender. I don't hate them.

I don't have it out for them.

I don't like, I'm not like, you know, trying to exterminate people that are like, I guess, not conforming to norms.

I just don't want to destroy norms.

I don't think there's a problem with cultural norms.

I think all societies have them.

So, like, that's my position.

So, like, I've been pretty consistent on that, too, by the way.

So I just, I find it really bizarre that I would, I would be identified or associated in any kind of way with someone who hates Charlie Kirk over that specifically.

All right. So, maybe a. um all right so might you have any sort of questions for me uh no i don't and honestly i don't know what the purpose of this person named is lysander and they're a what a third worldist i don't know go ahead hey Haas yeah what's up

hey um i wanted to talk about about Nick because he's live right now and you want to debate him.

Yeah.

You think he's going to come in here or not?

He absolutely won't.

Or maybe he will.

I don't know.

I don't think he will.

Well, I'm coming at this as a third party right now.

I'm not really with either faction.

Okay.

So, Goypers are trying to say that

you're Russian intelligence

what would you say to that?

How do you prove that you're not Russian linked?

Well, the burden isn't on me to prove anything.

If there's someone's making a claim,

they have to back it up or else it's literally

nothing. Just like Nick

Flentes, I would say Nick Fentis

should apply the same standard of evidence

he uses for the accusation that Israel's

involved in his, Kirk's assassination.

Like, what's your evidence?

I am ideologically I am ideologically,

I am ideologically, philosophically,

consistently a pro-Russian thinker.

Before I ever visited Russia

in my life, I was. I got banned

on Twitch for it, you know? I have

a pretty rigorous, comprehensive worldview within which...

He has the same circumstantial evidence as Russia and Israel, right?

They're the same kind of influence in the United States

based on what

based on what because Tim Poole got

supposedly got money or something

what are you even talking about

yeah guys like Tim Poole and Richard Spencer

it's pretty obvious that, you know...

Spencer is anti-Russian.

Maybe he's completely anti-Russian.

Yeah, but he had that honey pot wife at the time.

There's just no proof.

I mean, I don't know.

This whole thing about Russians being like these magical

people or something, Russians are normal people, okay?

If someone has a wife from Denmark or has a wife from fucking Poland or some shit,

like nobody gives a fuck. But as soon as someone is Russian and they breathe air and there's

there's like this crazy paranoia

about Russians and they're, oh my God, it's all

Russians

are normal people.

The interactions

between Russians and Americans don't imply

There's a lot of Russians in't imply there's a lot of russians in

israel there's like a lot of russian speakers in israel that's why putin you know does the

shabbad thing uh so the circumstantial evidence is the same on either one.

So what is the fact that there's Russians and Israel have to do with it, the Charlie Kirk assassination?

Well, they've been known to influence the goings on in America covertly.

Okay, so can you point to me?

How does that prove that I killed Charlie Kirk?

Can you explain?

Because I feel like we're like, what are we talking about here?

I mean, that would be like saying Charlie Kirk killed himself because he got money from Israel,

not saying that you did it saying like

it's the same level of evidence on

either side. No, there

isn't. Are you fucking kidding? Charlie Kirk

was pretty consistently

skeptical of the Ukraine war.

He wasn't by any

means an

anti-Russian figure.

The Russians that I know,

like Professor Dugan,

admired Charlie Kirk, and they

very much mourn his death and consider

it a tremendous loss.

I see

zero motive for why Russia

would have any interest or stake

in the killing of Charlie Kirk.

I mean, you stake your

claim on Alexander

Dugan, but he's like

the English speaking,

you know, like the face

that they put to the west.

All this talk about him being Putin's brain is all

either. I'm sure you know more than me,

okay,

regarding the matter.

You seem like an expert on the matter.

I'm sure you've been to Russia and you know about how everything is

and I'm sure you're the expert.

All these countries are doing soft power in America.

Okay, can you explain the motive for why russia

would even would want to kill charlie kirk i don't i don't think like personally what's the

motive what would the motive be the motive the motive

is the same on either side

no it's not it is absolutely not and I can

explain why and I talked about this extensively

Israel's motive for killing

Charlie Kirk would be very simple

a start a crackdown

on the left which can be used as a precedent to use government powers to suppress the speech of all critics of Israel.

That's a very solid motive to me.

Get right-wingers to all unite together, including

shit eating retards

like the

booger eating, to use Piker's

words, little dork,

little nerd, Nick Fentes,

get him to ally with Matt Walsh and

Ben Shapiro, have Ben Shapiro defend Nick

Fuentes. All of them come together against the left, quote-unquote, and all you have to do is

create a precedent of, quote, unquote, targeting the left or Antifa or whatever else they say, that same precedent, you created a legal

precedent for suppressing speech, you can use it against any critic of the system, whether

they're on the left or not. You don't think Israel has something to gain from that? They absolutely

do. And that's, by the way, that's

discounting the angle, which I find very convincing that Israel was not happy about Charlie Kirk

rejecting $150 million and a trip to Israel.

So these are two very, very strong motives that I think Israel

would have for doing this.

And that's why I lean on a

extreme suspicion

that there's a high probability

that Israel was involved

in this. I see

zero, zero motive for Russia.

I can't even think

why would Russia want to kill Charlie Kirk? What do they gain

from it?

There's general

political

destabilization of America.

At least-

Wait, hold on.

Do you think Russia has to destabilize America politically?

It's not already destabilized?

That would mean that Russia was responsible for the riots in L.A.,

for the conflict between Gavin Newsom and the federal government,

for the constitutional crisis, the fights going on in the courts over precisely that, for the conflict between the governor of Illinois, the Pritzker, and Trump, over the deployment of

National Guard troops

and other

federal forces in Chicago.

The instability

has been here for a very long time.

Russia doesn't need to foment

more instability by killing Charlie Kirk. Russia doesn't need to foment more instability by killing

Charlie Kirk.

I don't know how they could... I don't even know how they

could possibly get away with that, frankly.

Like, how could Russia...

Like, let's appraise the...

There's reports that there were 12 Israeli registered cell phones at this event, okay?

I guess those were all birthright tour students.

You also have the odd fact that supposedly foreign

intelligence was cooperating

with federal law enforcement forces

and agencies in the

manhunt for the killer. Was that the

FSB? Was that the SVR?

Who is that?

I mean, all that's say, like,

the entire left in the West

pretty much just exists as a soft

power for foreign countries.

That's absolutely not true.

That is, I can fucking...

I can, I am the living proof that's not true. That is, I can fucking, I can, I am

the living proof that's not true.

If that was true, I would

not have been as marginalized as

I was on the left. I would not

have been as canceled and

attacked and so

ferociously opposed as I was.

Because there was no one who defended out of fairness the facts and the record regarding foreign countries, like Russia, like China, like the DPRK, than me.

And I was crucified for it

primarily by leftists.

So

the idea that the left

exists for foreign countries,

I don't know what foreign countries you're talking

about. I think the

O'Rong majority of the American left is a front for the interests of the CIA and is a front for

the interests of, just like the right, by the way, I'm not saying the right is innocent. I'm saying

all the forms of established

in this country are compromised and serve the interests, serve interests that are outside

of the popular sovereignty of America.

The outside of the popular sovereignty, I see that as these like foreign governments

like Iran.

It could be, no, it's not Iran.

It could be foreign governments like Israel.

It could be private,

it could be private interests of financial forces

of Wall Street in the city of London.

It could be interest

from these weird

aristocratic dynasties,

these vampires that exist in Europe.

It could be the interests of multinational, transnational corporations.

It could be the interests of America's old wealthy families.

It could be the interests of Jewish families like the Rothschilds.

By the way, because people think I'm scared to name Jews. I'm not.

But none of that has anything to do with the popular sovereignty of the American people, with interests that are related to and pertaining to any kind of politics that derives from Americans wanting a stake in determining their future, right?

Americans who are concerned with the basic bread and butter issues of getting by day to day, ensuring a future for their children, being able to have families, the established politics we have in this country, whether it's the right, including Nick Fuentes, whether it's leftist,

overwhelmingly is compromised by

forces outside of

American popular and national interests.

Well, that's just a thing, like,

you talk about the popular

sovereignty and how all these CIA is running you talk about the popular sovereignty

and how all these CIA

is running the right and the left.

The way I see it like...

It's not just the CIA, by the way.

I'm just saying the CIA,

their involvement in the

creation of the fake left we have is very telling about the fact that it's compromised.

I'm not saying it's just the CIA.

I'm saying that it's, um, they all we can say with that, that, that has any binding significance that matters

is that these are forces that are

outside the popular

and national interests of the American people.

And that's the only thing that has

any practical significance as far as anyone

who's trying to create a sovereign

form of politics

in this country.

The so-called dissident

left and the so-called dissident right,

they really only exist to

bolster the image of these

foreign nations, to me

at least. Yeah, but the foreign nations, to me at least.

Yeah, but the foreign nations in question are not Iran, they're not China, they're not Russia,

they're not the official foreign adversaries

of the United States government.

They are more often than not.

No, they're not. You don't even know

what you're talking about, russia and china and iran

are too busy with their own problems to um be and by the way it's total nonsense because of the simple fact that they have a primarily, if not, almost entirely

defensive posture, Russia and China and Iran only want to focus on their own internal development and their own regions at the very least, their own polls. They, from an basic economic perspective, have no interest in coming over to here and meddling in our affairs and our

business. It's costly.

It's wasteful. I mean, what do they gain

from it? The only thing they want is

for this regime

and its proxies

to leave them the fuck alone so they can focus

on what they care about, which is internal development.

Yeah, the defense, the defense is the soft power because if you get enough of the population to go against a policy, then the policy won't be...

Okay, but if the population is getting genuinely convinced by the basic common-sense fact that we shouldn't be spending all of the money we have, which we can maybe spend on alleviating homelessness and poverty and other issues we really do have on arming and financing

Ukrainian Nazis to fight a forever war, that they're never going to be able to win, by the way,

against Russia.

Does there need to be a magical Russian sciop to convince people of basic common sense? No, there doesn't.

Well, it doesn't need to be like somebody gets killed and that whole thing pops off.

I feel like this is a major deflection from the original topic.

Why would Russia have a motive for killing Charlie Kirk?

It's just the same reason as always, just political destabilization.

Okay, but America was already an extremely destabilized country politically.

And even if you're correct, how does this specific type of political destabilization benefit Russia?

This specific one.

It gets the ire off of them and onto the people in America.

What do you mean the ire?

The ire has overwhelmingly been on Israel, not Russia.

So what are you talking about?

You think there's a tremendous ire on Russia is winning in Ukraine, big time.

Russia has never had, it's at the peak of its diplomatic relations with the rest of the world outside of the West.

It's long turned its back on the West, it seems like.

Russia is not in the hot seat, okay? Israel is.

The pressure on Israel, it's not coming from the administration.

The administration

has had already been

locking up people.

But the pressure on Israel is coming from the

entire fucking world, especially with their

bombing of Qatar.

Yeah.

And on that topic, in the Middle East,

and my point on the soft power of these separate nations,

look at the IRGC and all the English-facing propaganda that they put out.

And yet... Okay, they're English, it propaganda that they put out. And yet...

Okay, they're English.

It's made by boomers and it's not even effective.

I don't know what you're talking about.

Guys, I need a co-host because I can't see these requests.

I need a co-host.

I see all these Western West is eating it up because it's all this Che Guevara aesthetics with

Hezbollah or any of those numbers

of Iranian militias.

Okay, so the problem, the number one

threat to U.S. sovereignty is Iran

Iran sharing

Che Guevara aesthetics.

Is that what we mean to include Charlie Curse assassination?

They convince these people to run cover for them.

Okay. What do you mean? I mean, this is just the most stupid. I don't even know if you're a troll or what this is.

This is really fucking stupid.

Well, I say that because Iran, they're not really...

How do I say this?

They're not doing the thing that they say that they're doing.

They're just going along with the greater Gulf states

and the greater region.

They're integrating into it.

Yeah. they're integrating into it

I didn't even hear what you just said can you repeat it so Iran puts on this facade

I have nine requests that I can't see.

I'm trying to get a co-host in here.

Continue.

So Iran puts on this facade that it can't live up to.

And in reality...

Is there a single person in my, is there a single person

in my fucking

in IGG who's watching this

who can fucking co-host this?

Type in

in general. Like we need a

co-host to bring these fucks in. I can't see

them. They either have me blocked or something.

We're going to be stuck talking to this fucking retard until we get a fucking co-host.

There's nine people requesting that I can't see.

Okay, Orvo, please, can you request to speak so I can see you?

Thank God, Orvo.

Thank God for Orvo.

All right, Orvo is going to come and we're going to be able to bring up these 12 requests to speak.

That's incredible.

I can't even see any of them.

Let's bring Orvo up.

We're going to wait for him.

But yeah, onto the topic at hand I mean this is not a case of whether you're a fan

of Fuentes I don't mean I do who knows how you got down that rabbit hole

but this is a matter of just objective fact he's running cover for Israel

and the proof is in the pudding.

He's claiming that he's not entertaining the Israel angle because there's not a sufficient

standard of evidence, and yet he is stating with absolute certainty as a matter of

absolute fact that Jackson killed Charlie Kirk.

It's, okay, so Jackson and Russia and Haas killed Charlie Kirk.

We're going with that.

Based on zero evidence, like literally nothing.

Well, Haas deleted his general chat two days after.

That's guilty behavior.

What?

What?

That's guilty behavior, but not...

But not Nanyahu like like what

10 or 5 minutes

after it

happening

like immediately

rushing

not the fact

that Israeli

media was the

first to report

his death

and confirm it

not the fact that Charlie Kirk felt threatened for first to report his death and confirm it.

Not the fact that Charlie Kirk felt threatened for his life.

You know, not the fact that there's numerous inconsistencies in terms of how the FBI was reporting.

How it happened?

Not the fact. Orvo requestedvo requested bro I cannot see you

this is crazy

um

okay

Orvo I can't see you bro

this is fucked up.

Okay, Darg.

Can you come up and co-host?

You don't have to speak at all.

Just co-host so you can bring Orvo up and then we can make him co-host. You don't have to speak at all. Just co-host so you can bring Orvo up and then we can make him co-host.

Because I sent, I sent Darg, I sent you a request, I sent Zumer Tech Lead, I sent you a request. Can you guys come up and bring them up all right hold on One second.

We have a slight technical issue.

One second.

All right, thank God.

Just, can you see Orvo?

Just bring them up.

Okay, we got two co-hosts now.

Yeah, just bring, if you can't co-hosts,

just bring Orvo up. And then he'll be able to bring

people on hmm just like bring him up as a speaker so I can see him because I can't even see

him right now.

We'll bring on this jihad person while we're waiting for that.

Go ahead.

Okay, Orvo's here.

Thank God.

Invite to co-host.

You're allowed up to two co-hosts.

All right, I'll stop disturbing your peace.

I'll move you.

Co-host.

Put Orvo right here.

All right, Orvo.

Just bring up any Groyper you see or anyone who's a Nick Fuentes fan.

All right, go ahead. Gihad.

Yo, what up? I can't believe what I'm talking here. Good work, guys.

By the way, just really like you guys, everything you're doing.

Very cool. I just

want to talk about a couple things that are kind of weird,

like some patterns

that I may have noticed

related to like Trump, doing embarrassing

shit, and then weird events like

this fucking happening and covering

it all up and memory rolling all of it.

That being like the Puerto Rico

fucked up Hurricane Maria shit

and then the yes

Yeah man there's definitely a lot of weird stuff

But we're trying to have a debate

Orvo can you bring up all the

Grooper adjacents if you can see any

Anyone who looks like they might be

sympathetic with Nick Fuentes

in his position

since he's a pussy and he runs away from me

we'll just

we'll just bring up the people that uh

it's like there's seven people requesting

none of them look like obvious Gropers but I'll just bring somebody on There's seven people requesting.

None of them look like obvious gropers, but I'll just bring somebody on.

Yeah, just bring people on. Lewis, go ahead.

Yeah, can you hear me?

Yep.

All right, look, I'm going to say this.

I'm not a Groyper, but Nick is 100% right, and you are absolutely embarrassing yourself here tonight. Look, I understand why you're doing it.

It's very important for you and your compatriots, your ideological counterparts to shift the blame to Israel and away from the far-left terrorism that radicalized the killer. I get that. But guess what, buddy? It's not going to happen. Okay. And the reason why he's bringing up Russia is to highlight the duality of bringing up a non-sequitur foreign state actor that had nothing to do with the case.

This is what you're doing with Israel, and it makes you guys look insane.

Hold on. Do I have it correct that to interpret your profound hermeneutics, I don't mean to interrupt, but it sounds like you're saying that the way you're

interpreting the profound sagacious telegram comments and Twitter posts of Nick Fuentes is that

he's basically trying to make the point. Not that I killed Charlie Kirk. Not that Jackson

killed Charlie Kirk. Not that the shooter was even remotely possibly in my Discord, not that the ACP was involved, not that Russia was involved, but that it's just as absurd to say that.

No, I'm saying that the idea that Russia killed him is absurd.

The idea that the shooter was in your Discord is probably accurate, to be honest.

Like, why would you remove your Discord?

And maybe not yours because you probably

aren't influential enough to

say with certainty that he was there

but for sure he was

in similar groups

and look I'll give you this

Nick may be

Nick may be a pussy, but to call him

an Israel shill is just ridiculous.

But Lewis, this is what I understand. You just

said it's very probably true

that he was in my Discord

before I reset the general

chat channel two days after.

And because this is what Nick Fuentes is claiming as fact, because you said he's the general chat channel two days after.

And because this is what Nick Fuentes is claiming as fact.

Because you said he's, you open this up by saying Nick Fuentes is right about this.

And here's why he's right. Yeah, he's right that the left is responsible.

That communist radicals are responsible

and that all lawful

action taken by the Trump

Department of Justice, by the Trump

Department of State, and by the

Trump administration

officials to send you

and everyone who supports your ideology to prison or a black

side preferably is something that i would endorse and that i would encourage every other trump

supporter whether you like nick or not and for the record I disagree with Nick about just about

everything with respect to the Jewish people in Israel but he is right about this you belong in

prison your compatriots belong in prison and frankly if they have to use enhanced interrogation

to find out the subversive elements within your movement so i support that as well

you get it you want me to be tortured and you're a really tough guy but what i want to know i think that we need to

secure the united states and reinstitute order because frankly your movement is cornered and its its foundation is built upon the idea that we need to disrupt normal American life that we need to cause chaos buddy buddy why are you running away why are you running away?

Why are you running away from the actual substance?

I'm not running.

I'm talking.

Are you listening?

The substance has nothing to do with

communist ideology and the left and all this

word salad gibber.

Louis,

the substance are not.

I killed.

You are slippery people.

You are a snake.

So the idea that you're going to try and weasel out of this is not surprising.

But the truth is firm, and the American public know the truth.

That communists pose an existential threat to the safety and security of the United States

Americans.

For 20 seconds, stop larping and answer this simple question.

Was the assassin part of my community or in my discord in particular. Don't generalize about the

That is a question which shall be answered

by the relevant

federal authorities. As fact, he's not saying

we're going to wait for Cash Patel to go

why did you the demon

delete the discord? He's stating

it as fact. He's saying basically

that Jackson and me are guilty

100% it's a fact.

But he's not saying Israel guilty.

You might not be guilty of pulling the trigger

but you're guilty of being a communist or not. They're be guilty of pulling the trigger, but you're guilty of being a communist.

Or not, they're actually guilty of actual crimes. You're talking about a civil war. You're not talking about something that's actually going to happen. So quit the LARP. No, I am talking about all necessary and lawful action taken by the Trump administration to avert a civil war.

Okay, so lawful action is the key.

I haven't broken any laws retard.

So nothing's going to happen.

So shut the fuck up about it.

Look, I don't know.

Were you not in Iraq recently?

I mean, frankly, you have all sorts of connections

that want to be investigated.

I killed Charlie Kirk and I'm in Iraq.

No, I never said you killed him. I said that you are

a communist subversive who supports

foreign and domestic terrorist

organizations and you need to be

removed from polite society and put into a cage where

you cannot influence others to commit acts of terrorism. You are essentially a radio Rwanda propagandist.

You are subversive to our American values. Buddy, you sound like a robot.

You sound so brain-lost. I'm sorry

that Haas-Al-Din is not

a name that I'm familiar with and don't

want in my country. I don't want a neighbor

with the last name Alden.

I'm sorry, but frankly,

communists belong

outside the United States.

We're talking about facts. I don't care about your

feelings. Facts don't care about your feelings.

I don't care about your feelings. Is it true or is it false

that you are the chairperson of the American

Communist Party? You're a goddamn

fucking right that I am. And nobody is it true or is it false that the American Communist Party. You're goddamn fucking right that I am.

And nobody gives it true or is it false that the American Communist Party supports Hezbollah and various designated foreign terrorist organizations.

We do not do so in any material capacity, Cash Patel.

Can you get me the Cash Patel accent when you asked these questions? I did not say material capacity. Cash Patel. Can you get me the Caspetal accent?

I did not say material capacity.

The fact is that you are engaging

in dialogue with known

terrorists, with known terrorist organizations.

You are going and meeting with them, you are holding

rallies for them, you are holding rallies for them, you are

associated with them, and you deserve

to be treated just like they do.

But he's screaming about how I deserve to go to jail

isn't going to put me in jail. So keep crying,

keep wishing what's going to happen. We're just pushing

back against your nonsense,

trying to distract and say that Israel did this.

Look, I get it.

You're in a tough position.

This is where the inherent contradiction of Maga communism, no, look, Ania, I am a Jew.

You are the goi.

Neal before me by your man. Okay. You are the goye. Neil before me by your

man.

Okay.

So you're Jewish.

Hold on.

You're Jewish.

You're not going to call me a goy.

You fat fucking Lebanese.

No, wait.

You are Jewish.

Are you Jewish?

Look, I get it.

We'll get you on the Halam meal plan while you're in setcon.

But you're not going to talk down to me.

You're like a five foot four

fat Turk.

Okay.

So don't talk to me.

Like there's some kind of American.

Like you can raise the red, white,

and blue and proudly proclaim that mega-communism

You can't control your impulses.

In real life, you would shit your pants if you saw me, okay?

You don't sound very big to me.

You sound like a small little bitch.

I overpower and dominate you

in every respect, including intellectually.

I'm going to unmute you in 20 seconds. I just want to ask

a simple question. I don't care about your feelings about communism. I don't care

about your Jewish Zionist grievances

with Hezbollah or anything. All your other foreign nonsense that you cry about at night.

I want to know if Nick Fuentes is correct about the fact that ACP or infrared or me or Jackson had anything to do with Charlie Kirk's assassin or his killing?

It's like a yes or no. And if so, what's the evidence? I'll unmute you. Go ahead.

Yes. Okay. Where's the evidence? Where's the evidence?

If I'm muted, I can't respond. I didn't mute you.

Well, I was muted by your co-host then because I couldn't respond.

Where is the evidence?

The evidence that you were

contributing to the death of Charlie Kirk

is very clear.

No, no, no.

That's a, that's a, that's a whole lot of nothing.

Okay.

You could say, well, Trump contributed

because he abstractly contributed

to the overall climate of political enmity and whatever, like,

concretely in a way that would be legally relevant.

Like, does the assassin part of my community?

Is he part of my party?

Was he in my discord?

Do we have anything to do with him? Is there any connection whatsoever there?

Is there any tangible concrete, not abstract? Don't say, well, because you were promoting the

communist ideology and hurting my Zionist feelings by being a Lebanese Shia.

And by the way, I'm in this country, buddy.

Oh, you bet I'm in this country, buddy.

I was born here.

I'm living the, I breathe the air here.

It's my country.

I'm here.

And what is your little bitch boy ass going to do about it?

Nothing.

So shut the fuck up and keep crying.

But all these things offend you and they hurt your feelings and they make you upset and I'm

completely fine with that.

But they don't make me guilty in any legally relevant or real sense

you say well Trump is going to lock you up

because why? Because of my ideology

if people start getting locked up

for their fucking ideology

there will be a civil war.

Because I won't be the first.

I won't even be the first on the list who gets locked up.

If it becomes normalized that people go to jail just for their ideology and nothing else,

half the country will be in jail that's not going to run

so your fantasy is not plausible so concretely speaking i'm going to ask you again what is the evidence for an actual tangible concrete connection between me, Jackson, and Charlie Kirk's assassination?

A concrete one, not an abstract ideology gibber about the ideology of the left and commune.

Directly concrete evidence go ahead has respectfully you are smart enough to understand that in the immediate aftermath of a tragedy of this nature we are not going to have all of the relevant details okay so you admit nick fentes is wrong because you came into the space saying that nick fentes is right that's what you came into the space saying. You said he is right. Nick Fuentes is not waiting for evidence. He claims with 100% absolute certainty that I'm guilty, that Jackson's guilty, he insinuates Russia's guilty, he insinuates Candice and Tucker and Max Blumenthal have something to do with it.

And he is saying that he's absolutely certain of this fact. Why? Because he's telling Jackson that he's going to jail.

Because evidence will emerge. He says it will emerge that the killer was in our discord. He is staking his

entire reputation, his entire career, and the entirety of his credibility on this claim. He is

saying that with 100% certainty certainty he's not waiting for evidence

he's not waiting for the smoke to clear he's not waiting for the event to

subside he says that as a definitive fact

and if you disagree with him

then you are saying he's wrong if you say that we have to wait for more evidence,

then you admit he is fucking wrong, contradicting the opening premise that you came into this

Twitter space with

I'll unmute you

so I am not saying

that he is wrong

he is right about this thank you for clarifying

his position I'll clarify mine

he's right about this you are guilty

and Jackson are guilty of being our political

enemies. And for that... Nick Flentes is not claiming that we are merely guilty for being his

political enemies. He is claiming we are guilty for either cultivating or ordering

the assassination of Charlie Kirk

that we are guilty

for

shaping

the killer of Charlie Kirk

you are running away

into abstraction to avoid

the concrete point

of contention at hand, which

is not about where there's a

ideology and a political enemy.

By the way, you are a Jew

and you are a cuck

running cover for Nick Fuentes. You pathetic

cuck. Go ahead.

I'll unmute you. The Jewish

Nick Fuentes defender. And what in

the world is going on even?

I'll put it this way, Haas.

When you gain power, God forbid,

you will not be granting such mercy and compassion

to those of us on the right.

I'm not asking for your mercy, and I'm not asking for your compassion.

I'm asking you to prove your integrity to the world.

I'm asking you to prove whether or not you can be consistent about your consideration of the facts,

whether you can prove you care about the truth, whether you can be consistent about what you claim to be to the world.

I don't care about mercy and I don't care about compassion.

I care about fact and truth.

Nick Fuentes said something.

He said Jackson and me are guilty for killing Charlie Kirk.

He staked his entire reputation on this with 100% certainty, he said, that this is true, right?

This is not about compassion if you want to say that it's a justified tactic to lie about your political opponents then tell the world you're

lying why run away and lie why run away and hide if you believe that according to

your principles it is justifiable to lie then say so don't talk about a political war between

right and left as if that somehow justifies you from hiding what you are

because in order for people to make an informed conclusion about which faction they prefer

they need to know what the truth is. If you're lying, then not only are you being dishonest with them, in some sense you're being dishonest with yourself. Because what ultimately compels you to have the principles in the position you do?

How can you even know it's based in reality if you're willing to lie in the way that you are?

So it's very simple.

It's truth versus falsehood.

And that's it.

Go ahead.

Okay, so, sir, if you're going to mute me...

Because I'm asking you to back up your claim

that Nick Fentes is correct

that Jackson and I

I'm trying to respond

respectfully go ahead okay

so the honest answer

the honest answer to what you just said in the last two minutes is this, I do not care if a communist thinks I have principles. I am a staunch anti-cock.

Okay. Then you need to pretend for five seconds that I'm not a communist, but I'm merely a disembodied voice that is Socratically asking you a simple question.

God willing, very soon you will be a voice from inside a jail cell.

Okay.

Pretend for two seconds, I'm not a communist and I'm chat, GPT.

Okay, I'll pretend you're a regular America.

How will you respond to the question of what the truth is?

Is Haas, on a factual level, is Haas Aldine and Jackson Hinkle responsible for Charlie's murder in the sense that the assassin was in their discord, that he's in their party?

Like, are these things true?

Are these statements that are based in any available evidence?

Now, if you want to opt for the answer that it doesn't matter to you either way, please, go ahead and admit to the world that you don't care about the facts.

You just want to suppress your political enemies.

The American people deserve to know if that's your position, that you don't care about facts.

You just want your political enemies to be in jail, to be tortured with enhanced

interrogation techniques, and so on and so on. Just admit that. You don't have to run

around and talk about, I mean, what are you, you're hyping up yourself or something?

You communist traitor to American values.

Buddy, who are you convincing here?

If you think the facts don't matter and that anyone who disagrees with your opinion deserves to be locked up and tortured you know a communist like me won't just be the only person who you think it's deemed justified to suppress what about your your people that are on the right wing i mean

everything will apply to everyone that you can't have a functioning country if this is how it's

going to work and that's why it's not going to have i'm not even going to entertain that though

i'm asking you whether you care about the facts or not. Go ahead.

So you asked me how I would explain it to someone who's not you. So I'd explain it very simply.

If I was talking to my neighbor, Bill, and Bill said, what's going on with this you know has al den and

jackson hinkle two american citizens i'm hearing have been arrested and sent to a black site and

are being um you know I would tell him this

I would explain it to him like this

I would say look

you know when the creators

these two individuals

you know when the creators

of the race realism argument

like Charles Murray

and the rest of them

Stephen Pinker or whatever

they're like yeah

and Ashkenazi Jews

are like

the smartest people

ever.

And I feel like

I'm talking to a living

example,

like a living proof

of the fact

this is not the case.

You have such a lack

of a grasp

on the basic,

basic chain of reasoning and logic at hand that's in contention.

Like this claim that, you know, oh, Jews are the smartest people in the world. Like, I beg to differ. You are a Jew, according to your own admission,

and you are a fucking retard.

Because I didn't ask you to explain to Chat TBT how you would feel

if Jackson, Hinkle, and Haas were suppressed

in a black sight. That's arguing

from the conclusion in a way.

I'm asking you, how would you explain to your

neighbor if they asked you did has was the assassin in their discord was he in their party

is there any evidence for that?

You don't run to the conclusion, oh, if Haas got ran over by a truck, would I be sad about it?

I don't care about your feelings.

I don't care.

Okay, look at me, sir. I'm the Jew now.

You are the Goyim and I'm the Jew.

Because supposedly the Jews are the smartest people and whatever and the Goyim are cattle, but you are the cattle.

And I'm the Jew now. now go ahead i'll unmute you so i would answer go, please answer.

I was muted. So I would answer my neighbor like this. I would say those are some good questions you raised and that is why they have been removed pending an answer.

They are being investigated, but due to the existential risk that they pose to American citizens, we had to take them off.

Why are you dancing around the simple yes or no?

Is there any evidence?

Yes or no?

Is there any evidence?

That's all we want to know.

Yes. So you said yes or no? Is there any evidence? That's all we want to know. Yes.

So you said yes or no?

The answer is yes.

What's the evidence?

Oh, what's the evidence?

Yeah.

Okay.

The evidence is that the shooter fits the profile of an individual associated with them

and they're active in vain

thanks for we'll do it one at a time

a that's not true

so when I talk to a neighbor

he doesn't have this sort of autistic

back and forth with me we have a conversation

I'm trying to get to the

facts at hand. By the way,

I already know what the truth is. The truth is you have

no evidence. I'm just giving you the opportunity

to present some if some exists

so that audiences can know whether

this evidence exists or not. I've

consistently given you the opportunity to provide evidence, and you won't.

You say, well, he fits the profile of one of your people.

A simple Google search would debunk that.

My people are known for being socially conservative, for being quote unquote transphobic and homophobic there's not a single person influenced by me who would be considered a follower of mine who would ever deign to engage in

an act of violence against someone

because they're transphobic.

So no, they

don't fit my profile.

But even if they did,

even if

they did, it still would not constitute evidence. Evidence would be, well, the FBI has

released proof that they were a member of the party. They were part of this discord. They were here in the discord this is their messages here

here's who they were that would be evidence you don't have that so why make the claim like

nick wendez did that's all we want to know i'll unmute you we just want to know about the evidence

not your feelings. Go ahead.

See, ask me...

So I keep getting muted here, and it's kind of impeding the ability to have a dialogue.

And you asked me a question for me to imagine I was speaking to a neighbor.

Yeah.

And then in my answer, you muted me and then went

on this sort of like diatribe

and I get that the idea of a

neighborly conversation is foreign to you

because your neighbors aren't American

and that's an American

concept so like

you can't do this sort of thing.

But the reality is, if I'm talking to my neighbor and he asks me, is there evidence?

I have never seen such a consistent, weasley level of deflection and just dancing around the subject matter. I don't care about how American or

un-American you think I am. I don't care about your Jewish Zionist ethnic grievances with

Lebanese people because we whooped your ass in 2006. I don't care about your feelings. I don't care about your

disposition toward me personally. None of these things are material to me. All I care about

is the meat and potatoes of the question of fact and evidence. So fact and evidence.

I'll unmute you.

Fact and evidence.

Let's hear it.

Fact.

You're getting...

Okay.

So nothing.

Fact and evidence to justify Nick Fuentes' claim that...

Fact, you have made statements supporting terrorist organizations.

Fact. You have voiced...

Mm-hmm.

So things that are irrelevant to the topic at hand.

Is that what we're talking about? We're just talking about things that are irrelevant to the topic at hand. Is that what we're talking about?

We're just talking about things that are not at all relevant to the topic at hand.

Why are you avoiding the topic at hand?

Why are you trying to pivot to something else?

Go ahead.

This is a beautiful example of communist justice.

They ask you a question,

they mute you,

and then they lie.

Because you're not answering the question.

It's amazing why people don't want to have you in their country.

Why they, look, countries have successfully existed without the...

I accept your surrender.

And that, my friends, is an example of a total and comprehensive and absolute

domination. For anyone who objects

to the fact that I had to mute this animal,

I asked them a very

simple question pertaining to evidence.

They talked about foreign terrorist organizations.

They talked about profiles.

By the way, wrongly. They talked about communist ideology. They talked about their feelings about me being in a black site. At no point did they discuss in any capacity the topic of whether Nick Fuentes was being factually accurate or careful with

evidence when he made the accusation and the claim that Tyler

Robinson was a member of my community, that he was in my discord, that he was

in my party, and that Jackson Hinkle is going to jail over it.

At no point did he address that. Not even once.

Will anyone, will bring on this person Stevenson?

Go ahead, Stevenson.

Is Nick Fuentes correct?

There's also a Groyper request.

Bring the Groyper.

Okay.

Stevenson, go ahead.

Hey, can you hear me?

Yeah.

Hey, Haz, how's it going?

Um, I, I wanted to debate you on Nick Fuentes as a pussy plus Israel show. Is this Stevenson or is this super groyper?

Who am I talking to?

This is super groyper. Okay. Yeah.

Okay. So

I'll start with the pussy part

first. Personally, I don't

think anyone that was canceled

as hard as Fentas was

that persevered through

federal involvement, debanking,

to continue to push his message,

going to fringe streaming sites

in spite of all that was happening to him.

No fly lists.

I mean, that level of perseverance, I don't care who

you are, has to be respected.

That's what it takes in America is perseverance

to overcome things that are bad.

Well, I've heard things that cast into doubt

the credibility of Nick Fuentes' claims

about the extent of his persecution,

besides being deplotism.

Well, I mean, if it's hearsay, it it's hearsay i can only tell you by what i've

but but his credit i have to entertain the hearsay and wait for more evidence on that because he's

already nuked his credibility when it comes to his handling of the truth i 100% disagree with that

in fact if he's wrong, people

probably won't give a shit. I really

think so. I think that the optics of

the ACP are so bad that it

will become nearly impossible for you guys

to gain any role of this.

I think it's an incredible feminine,

estrogenic thing to talk about

optics right now.

Well, I'm trying to help you. I'm honestly trying to help you.

I don't want you. If you want

to grow in America, you

should not ally yourself with literally

the intelligence. Let's focus on the debate.

I don't want your advice. Let's focus on

the issue. Okay, let's go to Israel show.

Yeah.

I mean, the logical example of Charlie Kirk being killed by Israel when he's done more for pro-Israel propaganda than any other American that exists in the past five years is completely insane.

Constant.

Every time he talks, he talks about the positivity of Israel.

You're not going to get a dispute from me that Charlie Kirk was a Zionist shill.

Can we not waste time on that?

Yes. Yes. So the idea that

Fentes is shilling, because for once

he has an opinion that is very clear and

logical that Charlie Kirk was not killed

by Israel does not make Fentz

an Israel show when he just spent the past

10 years speaking out against Israel,

to the point where he was canceled and thrown out of the fence.

Are you willing to hear my argument?

Sure.

Okay.

First of all, the argument isn't whether or not Charlie Kirk was a shill for Israel. For the overwhelming majority of his career, he was. But there's a fact which Nick Fuentes himself confirmed on Monday's stream that he did, which was independently corroborated by multiple sources, Candice, Max Blumenthal, Tucker, others, and Nick Fuentes, you know, you don't trust those people, but he himself confirmed and corroborated this.

There were riffs that were beginning to emerge between Charlie Kirk and his Zionist handlers.

There were riffs.

There were riffs.

We agree with that.

Among the details...

Allegedly, but probably, yeah, sure.

Well, there was also reports that he was offered a hundred and fifty million

from Israel and he turned it down

now why would he be offered

150 million for Israel

because despite whatever

extent that Charlie Kirk continued to

support Israel it clearly wasn't

enough for Netanyahu and Israel itself. It just wasn't enough for them. They didn't consider it a sufficient degree of unconditional blind support that they needed. It's and i saw this myself that charlie kirk

was a little bit starting to push back so when candace owens claims that he was under or

whoever said this was undergoing a spiritual transformation, that's pretty convincing to me,

not because I have to trust her word, but just because what we can see that the change in the

tune of Charlie Kirk, you know, over the months. So the first argument for why it would make sense that Israel could potentially be

involved is that they see him going down the path of Tucker and Candice, and he is the head of

TPPUSA. TPSA is the national infrastructure of the GOP.

It's not just about being an influencer.

It's like a fundamental political infrastructure.

All the future Republican candidates are being groomed from there.

They're going to come from there.

I think that in the estimation of the Israeli

national security apparatus, they would consider that a threat to their national security.

If TPSA was allowed to go down that path of being led by someone who could potentially become

a skeptical or opposed or maybe even just not 100% loyal to Israel, they probably would consider that a national security threat.

For reasons Nick Fuentes himself, by the way, gave.

Nick Fuentes made the argument that according to Israel, it depends on the United States to exist. It could not exist without the United States. Therefore, from the Israeli perspective, losing the support of America would be a crisis of national security.

If there's a possibility

that TPSA is going to

no longer be loyal to them,

that Charlie Kirk will no longer be,

let's say he's only

60% loyal instead of 100%.

Right?

Even that, they would probably consider that a crisis of national security.

Because why?

Because the TPSA is fundamental for the GOP.

It is a fundamental form of political infrastructure

in U.S. politics.

That's A. That's my

argument A. My argument...

Will you let me rebuttal to that argument you just made?

Sure. Go ahead.

Yes. Undisputably,

Turning Point USA is huge for the GOP. However, yes undisputably turning point USA

is huge for the GOP

however if we're going to rely on sources

like fucking Candace Owens for information

I think that's just Nick Lentez rely on him only

well no I don't I don't. I don't

just rely on Nick Flentes, but my point

is that you can't just say Andish

Owens. Nick said that he didn't produce any

receipts. Where's the receipts?

But Nick said that his own

sources confirmed this fact.

That Charlie... Yes, he turned down the money. Yeah. I would imagine

Charlie didn't want to be obligated. However,

he still pushes pro-Israel policy. The idea

that he's just going to turn around and be

completely anti-Israel and completely

bribing Netanyahu in the middle of the GOP, the literal Israel cock-sucking GOP is insane. I witnessed the trajectory of Tucker Carlson. I witnessed the trajectory of Candace Owens. And I was also witnessing the trajectory myself of Charlie Kirk in public. I don't find it that

implausible. I don't find the likelihood that implausible that he could have been going down that path.

I will say that might be possible, but the idea that Israel would kill him whenever the pros outweigh the cons significantly is crazy.

Because the thing is, is obviously in a heightened time of what the Israelis would call anti-Semitism, the great noticing,

it's going to throw a lot of heat on them.

Basically,

everything they do is up for criticism right now, right?

Even people that 10 years ago wouldn't criticize the Israelis

are now talking about the Israelis.

That is such a hot flashpoint.

That's crazy's it's probably

something they would regard very seriously

if the head of tp u.s.a if they thought

and it's only a hundred fifty million dollars

and we're talking about a country like israel with the economics back by

that's a look at us it's not a small it's not a small sum of about a country like Israel with the economics backed by the USA.

It's not a small sum of money, but in any case...

No, it would double, but like, come on, man.

Look, to rule the world,

150 million, really?

If they thought, if they suspected

that Charlie Kirk might turn on them, I don't think they would allow that to happen. I just think that from a logically speaking, if I'm putting myself in the perspective of Israel is far smarter than that, man. You're not giving them enough credit.

I mean, think about it. If Charlie Kirk turned on them, he's taking TPP USA with him. What do they have then? How are they going to ensure the loyalty of future GOP?

Well, you're giving a what about.

Like, what if Charlie turns into Tucker Carlson level criticism?

Or even worse, Nick Fuentes level criticism.

To me, seeing a guy like Charlie Kirk, who, by all accounts very Christian very

structured very regimented start spouting

off things like fucking Tucker Carlson

or Candice Owens is so

wild and is way outside the character

of who Charlie Kirk was. Maybe, maybe, but I think it is plausible

to entertain the possibility that he might end up in a position where he's not 100% unconditionally.

But we're not playing by mites, right? Because if we're playing by mites, then you can equate that to anything.

All I'm doing is establishing that it's not unreasonable to suspect that Israel would have a motive to killing him for that.

Not just for that, by the way, because I have another, I have another argument.

Good, give me your other argument.

So the first one is clear, clear then i understand what you're

trying to say okay my second argument is that something remarkable is going on which i

also think fully plays into the hands of the interests of uh israel and anyone should be able to agree with this.

Right now, let's say, let's rewind the clock to before Charlie Kirk's assassination.

Let's rewind the clock a little bit.

Let's say Trump came out.

Okay, so remember what the atmosphere was. Bipartisan fury over the Epstein files, increasing MAGA discontent with Trump, both the right and the left are both seemingly, increasingly at least, united in their skepticism and rejection of the establishment of the regime.

Israel, you yourself said this, so I don't have to argue a lot to justify this, is rapidly losing the war of moral support and the ideological war and the information war among all political factions.

And this is reality before Charlie Kirk's assassination.

So before Kirk's assassination, all of this is very problematic for Israel, right?

So let's say Netanyahu gives Trump a call and he says I want you to politically crack down

on all of these people

giving us a hard time

in your country primarily coming from the left

by the way because they're the organized

anti-Zionist force

they're doing boycotts they're doing the

marches and the protests and whatever and whatever

and let's say you know trump he needs to put him in jail he need i don't think he would have had

the popular consensus to do that i think that he would have gotten a lot of pushback from the maga base i think he would have gotten a lot of pushback from the

Maga base. I think he would have gotten a lot of pushback from the right. I think it would have

been considered in the context of his scandal with the Epstein files. I don't think he would

have been empowered to do something like that. But now that Kirk gets assassinated,

a popular consensus has been created

for cracking down on the left,

for cracking down on Hassan Piker,

for cracking down on all these...

They probably should do that, but yeah that okay sure before we get into that

a popular consensus has been created for that that did not exist before now this is a matter of fact

i'm not here to make a moral argument i'm not here to

say should or could i'm giving a fact one of the barriers that gets in the way of being able to

crack down on anti-israel voices and on the left is the constitution okay? It's also popular consensus. If through popular consensus, we do what Sam

Hyde said should be done, right, is kind of throw away the Constitution. The only way you do that is if you get

popular consensus, by the way. So we throw away the Constitution. The only way you do that is if you get popular consensus, by the way.

So we throw away the Constitution and we start creating a legal precedent for silencing the left.

Woo-hoo, yeah, everyone hates the left. Yeah, the left is terrible. So Maga agrees. Yeah, they killed Charlie Kirk. The left is terrible, whatever. But hold on. You just created a legal precedent outside of our Constitution. Where's the checks and balances, where's the guarantees, the same thing that gets used against the left, that same precedent, then gets used to target all critics of Israel in this country. Whether or not you consider them quote-unquote part of the left or not.

If Israel has a chance to gain something like that, if Mossad thought they could provoke that kind of precedent, that kind of power.

I think it's also not implausible to think.

They would at least entertain that option.

And if they're willing to entertain an option like that. They are incredibly amoral.

The Mossad is.

I mean, they killed a bunch of civilians.

They're doing a genocide.

They had the page...

All these extremely cynical things they do.

It's not beyond their moral calculus to do something like this.

Suddenly, there's a way to deal with the anti-Israel problem that's emerging among Gen Z and emerging among all segments of U.S. politics.

So there's...

So Israel kills their top go away,

and it helps them pass

anti-Semitism laws,

is what you're trying to say?

No, not anti-Semitism laws.

This is the perfect thing.

But laws or legal precedent,

quote-unquote,

against the left.

The problem is that the left is the most organized vocal advocate for Palestinians and against Israel.

And anything that can be used against them, all they have to do is just label critics of Israel as part of Antifa and part of

the left and you're a communist and you're a whatever and that's it. And who is going to, I mean,

how, who's going to resist that? How is that going to be kept in check?

If we're already operating outside of the Constitution, there's no longer checks and balances.

It's a fucking free-for-all.

So-

But it's been a free-for-all for a long time.

It's not like this is like a new thing.

No, it's not a free-for-all. It's not like this is like a new thing. No, it's not

a free for all yet. They do

everything they can,

but formally, for the

sake of the public, they still have to

pretend that everything is legally

and constitutionally and

judicially above water. But if all of these things can be

bypassed, then you're opening a can of worms that's going to be used against everyone. And it's

going to be unlimited Zionist control and power

in this country

it already is

no it's not

100% it already is

we fought a war there for 30 years

in the Middle East what you mean if already was, then every critic of Israel right now would be sitting in a jail cell.

Look, let me tell you, man, if they were to pass laws like that, like full on anti-Semitism laws,

no, I'm not saying they're going to be billed as anti-Semitism laws. No, I'm not saying they're going to be billed as

anti-Semitism laws.

Regardless of how they're going to be billed,

it's not like the people are just going to roll

over. Where's their support line, right? The boomers,

they're going to die. How are they going to push

that after the boomers? They're just not going to

be able to do that there's no

force organized enough to resist it if if all of the political if half the country is anti-trump

not any but not but precisely this event is meant to address this fact.

That's insane.

If you're talking about the Democrats...

It's 100%. That's crazy.

If you are referring to the Democrats,

they don't need the other 50% or whatever it is at this point, the 40% or the 50% or the 50%, whatever it is,

all they need is for the right and MAGA to be unified, which before Kirk's assassination, it was not.

It's not now.

Yes, it is.

Listen, you think that just because Matt Walsh said some kind words to Nick Flintes

that were all of a sudden on board with Matt Walsh and all those guys and Ben Shapiro?

What I think, which is very clearly going on at the top, what I think is that all of a sudden Ben Shapiro was defending Nick Fuentes.

What I think is that...

Barely.

Nick Farley. They're not hateful enough, is what he said.

Barely.

It's aping the very rhetoric and talking points of the Bappas

and the Straussian neo-conservatives.

All of their lingo and jargon, he's aping it.

Okay, he's starting to talk about, quote, unquote, third world is he's starting to reply saying,

Okay.

You're brown.

He's starting to use the talking point of the Russia infiltration, the Spencerite nonsense.

Let me ask you a question.

Other than Israel

who is responsible

for the most

JQing in the country?

Other than Israel, who?

Fentes, bro. That's ridiculous.

What do you mean Israel?

No. Well, Israel's own act who. Fentes, bro. That's ridiculous. What do you mean Israel?

No.

Well, Israel's own actions obviously lead to people having the JQ, but the second biggest thing is Fentes.

First of all, I reject that notion. I think that what precisely propelled Fuentes into stardom was October 7th and the widespread popular discontent with Israel over their conduct in Gaza.

And the horrific... He positions really well, man.

He's a good position.

So animosity and anti-Zionist sentiment would have been there regardless.

But Flentes is here directing and controlling that sentiment in a very specific way.

And the way he's directing and controlling that sentiment in a very specific way. And the way he's directing

and controlling that sentiment right now

is that he is

getting behind the regime

fully, and he is

completely denying

any possibility. Do you think he's

completely behind the Trump regime? You think he's completely behind

the Trump regime?

I think he is

100% behind.

How so?

Because he agrees

that it wasn't Israel?

He's behind the Trump regime?

I just want you to watch

his stream yourself

where he is

He is applauding

the current push

to quote unquote punish the left

over Kirk's assassination

and yeah he wants retribution

obviously

so objectively speaking he's rallying

behind the regime.

I think he, listen, you can pick and choose in politics.

You can pick things you're for and pick things you're against.

The idea of him rallying behind the Trump regime after he spent, you know, running with yay

and the entire election cycle being against fucking Trump.

Joe Kamala is crazy, dude.

What did all that amount to, consequentially, in a tangible material way?

I mean, think about it.

What did his actions actually lead to? Here's what I would say. I mean, think about it. What did his actions actually lead to?

Here's what I would say. I would say more people are for nationalism now than ever before.

That's what I would say. I would say he is the voice of nationalism in America, clearly.

So by nationalism, do you mean empowering Netanyahu with unlimited

control over America at the expense

of the Constitution?

You think if that's...

You don't realize that Flintes

has been talking about anti-Semitism

laws and how horrible they are

and exactly what you're talking about for the past, I don't know, fucking six months.

Maybe, maybe, maybe he was doing that because he needed to build credibility among skeptics.

So, well, everyone's playing 5D chess. Everyone's a fucking political genius now the truth is i don't know with certainty

but what i can tell you is this i find it right we don't know right we don't know i find it incredibly

suspicious that he is not even entertaining the possibility of an Israel angle.

I mean, why do you think you, why do you think

I who have never seen anything

to do with the ACP all of a sudden

starts seeing stuff with the ACP?

Clearly.

Because Nick Fuentes is

targeting attention toward us.

Very mysterious. Well, did you guys not also launch an assault talking about how it's the Groyper's.

Flentes is running cover for Israel?

I mean, like, all of your accounts say that.

We didn't blame the Groyper's, first of all, for the assassination.

But you're all saying that Fuentes is shilling.

You've all, every one of you have done that.

Yes.

So obviously that was coordinated, right?

Because one week prior to all of this,

Nick Fuentes went on record publicly.

Two things.

One thing is he made the claim that Haas, which is me, runs cover for the Jews, quote unquote. So he attacked me first, unprovoked. The second thing is that he got all of his top lieutenants and generals in his movement to constantly, constantly

attack us for one

week straight, continuously.

Okay? And we all know how... Don't you think politically

that we're natural enemies? Don't you think

politically the nationalist first, the

communist would be natural enemies?

I think that communists would be natural enemies. I think

that communists and

shills for the regime

and Israel are enemies, yes.

We are natural enemies.

But even if we are...

So we can ideologically be enemies. That's fine. But the subject of our politics is ultimately

the audience, the neutral viewer, the spectator. I am making a concerted effort to be honest

with the neutral viewer, with the spectator.

And my goal here is to ask the question, is you're moving on. I don't think so.

I don't really agree with that, bro.

Why not?

How have I been dishonest?

I've consistently tried to get...

Not this.

I'm not talking about being dishonest.

I'm talking about remaining neutral with the average viewer. I've seen a clip of you talking about... No, I'm not talking about being dishonest. I'm talking about remaining neutral with the average viewer.

I've seen a clip of you talking about...

No, I never... I didn't say I'm neutral. I'm saying the average viewer is neutral, and I'm trying to show them who is honest and who is dishonest. That's my goal. That's it.

But don't you think

you saying that he's shilling for Israel

after he spent the past 10 years is incredibly

dishonest of his track record?

I can prove that he's shilling for Israel. I can actually prove

this. What's the proof? You have the money trail?

You got receipts? Where is it?

I want you to follow the logic straight. And you tell me if there's a gap in my logic.

Go ahead. Shoot your logic, man. Let's hear. Nick Fuentes, in his own stream, claims that it is blatantly ridiculous.

The notion that Israel is somehow involved in this right and he consistently makes the argument that there is simply not enough evidence

to support us entertaining that the first post he made before his stream, by the way, he said

there's no connection. There's no connection

at all. And he claims

there's no evidence at all. Therefore, it

shouldn't even be entertained.

So this is his reasoning, supposedly, right?

Let me just be clear.

You're saying the evidence is Candice Owen's $150 million claim. I'm not even going to address whether or not he's justified for saying that.

I'm just going to,

I'm just going to see whether he's consistent when it comes to that,

when his caring about evidence.

More recently, Nick Fuentes claims, as a matter of fact, he says he's 100% certain of this.

Okay?

He claims that the assassination of Charlie Kirk was somehow involved or related to me, Jackson Hinkle, the ACP, and the infrared Discord server, that Tyler Robinson was in our Discord server,

and that we are going to jail for this.

I think it's retaliatory, dude.

That's what I would say.

I would say it's a retaliatory attack.

That's what I would say.

Okay, hold on. I would say. I would say it's a retaliatory attack. That's what I would say. Okay, hold on.

I would say whenever you start saying that he's filling for Israel, it's a retaliatory attack.

Is he being consistent when it comes to his supposed consideration of the facts?

I'll tell you what I see.

You say that you see it as retaliatory.

Here's how I see it.

I see it as someone desperately trying to point fingers in every possible direction,

no matter how implausible, no matter how ridiculous it is,

to avoid confronting the question of why they are avoiding the elephant in the room, which is that Israel has shady connections.

Sure, I would agree that Israel has shady connections, but the idea that Israel killed Charlie Kirk to me is preposterous for everything I've already said.

If it's preposterous, based on Israel that Charlie Kirk was around.

If based on the available evidence, it's preposterous that Israel killed Charlie Kirk, What does that make the claim

that I killed him?

What? I'm not here to argue that with you. I'm here to argue about

Clint is being a close to an Israel show.

He's not staking his entire career. Even if he's

wrong, it doesn't matter.

Dude, he is... That's crazy.

Nobody will care if he's wrong except for

you guys. Nobody will give a shit.

He has fucking 80,000 viewers.

Why would he care?

Last week... His entire career is based

on you?

Are you kidding?

Last week he had nearly 200,000.

I know, that's my point, man.

Why would he care? And he is rapidly, he halved, okay, after Monday.

Well, yeah, it was a traumatic event.

That makes sense, but it's still higher than what it was. Candaceone is running with what? 29,000 real viewers on YouTube

concurrently. Who gives a shit? Well, I think the

facts speak for themselves. I think people are... But there's no facts here, man.

You're not giving me facts. You're giving me

your opinion and I'm giving you my opinion. The fact of the matter

is, you may not think it matters

that someone lies and nukes their

credibility like this because we are so... But it's not

a nuke for his credibility. He's been right

about so many other things. And the idea

If he's wrong... If he the idea... If he's wrong...

Your credibility is being nuked by claiming he's a shill, to be honest with you.

That sounds insane.

But who, if not a shill, would publicly claim they're not entertaining Israel's narrative?

They're not running cover for Israel. They're not running cover for Israel.

They just don't find enough evidence.

And yet be so gung-ho about pointing fingers with zero evidence

that Jackson... So Nick Fentis is a controlled opposition who's secretly

supporting Israel while calling out the Jews for literally every atrocity

that he is so adamant about running cover for Israel that he would sooner accuse me, Jackson,

Candace, Tucker, Max Blumenthal, and Russia of being involved in Kirk's assassination.

Your boy, Bear mentioned and said, I'm coping so hard. No, it's just reality, man.

But why? Flintez is smart, bro. Listen, I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why.

I'll tell you why. Let me tell you why. Flentes is smart enough to know how to position himself,

and you can see from a logical angle that most people, almost everyone,

knows that Charlie Kirk was 100% pro-Israel.

Were there some cracks?

Did he have disputes with donors?

Sure.

But the idea that he's going to turn around and pop the JQ and fucking disavow Israel is completely against anything is everybody.

Was JFK going to pop the JQ and totally disavow Israel?

That's what we're, that's what the theory is, right?

No, it's not.

The theory was, that's what you said.

You said he's having shakeups with his donors and he's going to switch.

I said JFK.

I'm talking about Charlie Kirk right now.

Well, I'm bringing up JFK.

What is, why?

That's 70 fucking years ago.

I'll tell you why.

Because according to Nick Fuentes, correct me if I'm wrong,

JFK was killed by the Mossad and by Israel, right?

Why would he say that and then shill for Israel, bro?

Why would he say that and then shill for Israel?

Because I'm trying to explain to you my

argument here.

JFK was not going to suddenly

become fully anti-Zionist

and fully repudiate

Israel and become a full

JQer, the argument goes

that JFK simply

believed that there was an outsized

degree of influence

of the Israel lobby and Israel

on U.S. politics. And for that reason alone,

for that reason alone, they killed him. So you don't need to cross the threshold of becoming a Hamas supporter for Israel to consider you a threat. You just have to cross the threshold of not being fully under what they consider a necessary degree of control.

Yeah, I don't think you give any credit to the pros of Charlie Kirk and what he did for Israel.

You're just not running off the hypothetical that maybe he was shifting.

Charlie, he was groomed by Israel.

He served Israel. I don't deny

that. Big Israel guy. Number one, Israel

Goy, yeah. Okay, so

that's fine, but

I named two plausible

reasons for why I find

at the very least

Israel to have had a motive for doing this

and I already name those reasons.

But a motive isn't a direct...

Everyone can have a motive for doing anything

that doesn't necessarily mean they did it.

So now that the motive is...

My argument about the motive is clear.

I understand the motive, yes. There's a lot of strange circumstantial evidence surrounding

Kirk's assassination, which

at least

justifies asking questions about it. Like

for example, when the

federal law enforcement agencies were saying that they were working with foreign intelligence during the manhunt, what foreign intelligence were they talking about?

I'm sorry, can you repeat that?

When federal law enforcement agencies said that they were working with foreign intelligence during the manhunt in the aftermath of Kirk's assassination, what agencies were those?

I have no idea.

Why did Israel, how did Israeli news

be the first to confirm

Charlie's test?

Because we are run by Israel.

What do you mean?

And supposedly,

I don't know if this is 100% confirmed,

but I read that there were 12

Israeli linked cell phones during the assassination at the in the crowd.

Allegedly, right?

Yeah, and I don't know if you, it was the thing with the plane debunked and the owner of the private jet or whatever.

Yeah.

That was debunked?

I believe so.

I believe they served like breakfast or something at takeoff, which doesn't make any sense.

Did you see the recent Unz report that there are senior officials?

Supposedly, I don't know if I would say senior.

There's officials in the White House who claim that they believe that Israel had a hand in this and had something to do with it?

The Unons report.

You'd have to link me the article.

I'd have to read it, man.

Well, look.

The idea, the, I'm arguing the idea to me is that it does more harm to kill Charlie Kirk for Israel than it does good.

I just, I laid out my reasoning.

I understand your reason.

I understand your reasoning.

The motive side of the reason.

I understand your reasoning, but the Trump administration has been pushing these anti-1A laws for the past.

Since they've been in fucking office.

Yes, they have, but those laws have been extremely unpopular.

If now they can be justified.

I understand what you're saying. I understand

the motive. I 100%

understand the motive, man. My point

is that Nick Flentes,

in no way is a shill for Israel.

That's just fucking retarded.

He's brought more people to questioning Israel than anyone else that exists on this planet. If he's not a shill for Israel, why is he sooner willing to point fingers at me, Jackson, Russia,

Candice, Max Blumenthal, and Tucker, than he is Israel? Hello?

Hello? Hello? Uh Orva, are there any other Groypers available?

Yeah.

Yeah, bring them up. Morgan, is that a Groyper? Go ahead. Unmuse yourself.

Hello?

Yep.

Where's my friend? Is he not talking anymore?

I don't know. Something must be wrong with his device or something. But but go ahead the jews got him um yeah i just

want to i just want to say um so since you're arguing in what's probable and what benefits who

how would him being a shill for israel benefit him whatsoever what's probable and what benefits who.

How would him being a shill for Israel benefit him whatsoever?

Benefit him?

Yeah.

Well, he could be compromised.

Okay, but

he could either be compromised

apart from this one claim.

What do you mean?

What evidence suggests that he compromised apart from this one claim where he doesn't think Israel killed Charlie Kirk?

Well, it's not just that he doesn't think Israel killed Charlie Kirk.

It's that he's willing to sooner point fingers at me,

Jackson, and Russia than he is Israel. Based on the evidence.

Well, why did you delete your Discord channel? What was that about?

Okay, so my, the general chat of my Discord, the infrared Discord, was reset a full two days after the assassination.

And the reason is because, in addition to the fact that we were getting raided a bunch, because 4chan was already claiming that the shooter was uh was somehow related to us this was going on for two days by the way uh we have a zero tolerance policy on discussing or sharing images and graphic content pertaining to violence and violent events.

Now, there's a huge increase of activity.

People are sharing the videos.

They're sharing the clips.

They're sharing embed tweets that have those in them.

And it seems that people weren't, you know, the mods were working overtime, deleting,

and banning people doing that. It seemed like, there needed to be an announcement that you can't

talk about or share anything relating to a violent event.

We don't want any violent content in our

Discord. So this is a

full two days after. Wait,

so you're a political figure and you

comment on these kind of stuff all the time.

On my, on X,

which has freedom of speech, on X, which has

freedom of speech

on other platforms,

but Discord in particular,

we don't tolerate

community-wide,

you know,

like sharing images

and videos of things like that.

It's not allowed.

And we do this to be careful because we did the same with the Iran 10-day war.

We do it routinely and regularly to conform with the terms of service

so there's nothing extraordinary about it

by the way but the only reason you even heard about that is because Nick Fuentes claims that this is evidence of guilt.

Yeah, well, the only reason I heard about a lot of stuff is because of Nick Fuentes, including the $150 million deal.

Right.

Isn't it strange that he claims

me resetting

my general chat is evidence of guilt

but not

the very thing that he outlined

in his own stream Monday

about how Bill Ackman

mysteriously put up the bounty for what a million dollars to turn in the assassin

and that Bill Ackman was the one involved in the disputes one of the biggest donors involved in the disputes, one of the

biggest donors involved in the disputes with

Charlie Kirk. That's not evidence

of guilt, but a full

two days after, a fringe

you know,

guy like me,

resetting his general chat is proof that I, that Tyler Robinson was in my community.

Now, I'm fringe compared to Nick Fuentes, you know, at least for your average person, okay?

I certainly don't get 100,000 or 200,000 views concurrently on my streams.

But you can Google me.

You can do a basic Google search.

By the way, Nick Frontes knows who I am, and he knows about my community.

He knows, right?

The average person does me.

He's very plugged in, right?

So he knows the truth.

You do a Google search with me.

What do you see?

You see socially conservative.

You see transphobic.

You see homophobic.

There's many people.

They even try to call me a fascist or something.

Why would anyone...

And by the way, Nick Fuentes knows all these things.

So he's counting on the ignorance of people like you.

When he's trying to point fingers at Jackson and I, he's hoping you don't do your homework. He's

hoping you just say, oh, they're just a bunch of

communists, they're just a bunch of leftist

pieces of shit. He's hoping

you don't do the Google search and be like,

wait, these people are

relatively socially conservative,

relative to leftists

and they get accused of transphobia

can I stop you right there?

Yeah

Yeah man

I honestly I've analyzed

the situation and I'm a big fan of Nick

I love the guy

And honestly dude But don't you think he's counting on your Don't you think he's counting on your Don't you a big fan of Nick, you know, I love the guy.

And honestly, dude, I think they have to change the name.

Don't you think he's counting on your ignorance when he's trying to point fingers at a guy like me?

He's just hoping you're not going to do your due diligence and... I mean, I don't know who the fuck you are, to be honest, man.

I know...

That's my point.

I know you don't know who I am.

You heard about me through Nick Fuentes.

As far as you think that, you know, I must be one of these, you know, crazy leftist,

liberal, whatever. No, dude, I think you're one of these, you know, crazy leftist, uh, liberal,

whatever. No, dude, I think

you're one of those Khabib Nirmagumato of motherfuckers.

You know, like one of those... So why would

I want Charlie Kirk, okay, so

why would I want Charlie Kirk dead over

transphobia?

Doesn't even make sense.

No, you

listen, all right?

The problem is, this is the right versus the left

issue. You guys are over-expanding it

to all this geopolitical nonsense.

You know, it just, it doesn't make any sense.

All right? Why the fuck? I'm not, would you say I'm the top, uh, influencer on the left?

Um, no? Definitely not. Definitely not. I would even say that, uh, know to some extent i'm pretty fringe okay my community

is a little french dude it's because he's because he's because he's complies and it's actually so why is he

naming me and and why is he naming my community? Why is he naming?

No, it's over, man. No, it's over. I was talking.

It's over. My heart's broken. He's a Jew.

No, I'm asking you. Why do you think he's a meaning?

No, no, no, no, no. There's nothing to say anymore, all right?

There's nothing to say. Nick Fuentes is a fucking Jew lover, all right?

And that's the end of the situation, right?

It makes full sense that Israel killed him.

And I agree with you completely.

Let me, let me, let me, let me, I know you're being sarcastic, but.

No, no, no, no, I'm not being sarcastic.

You think I'm being sarcastic.

I'm not being sarcastic.

Okay.

Well, let me, for anyone else who's interested, let me also include some more facts.

All this came after Jackson Hinkle started drawing huge amounts of attention to the Israel angle.

And right after Jackson started doing this,

Nick Fuentes immediately

started saying that

we were responsible for the killing.

I find that incredibly

suspicious.

I find it very plausible, actually. I find it very plausible, actually.

Discourse servers are often known

for planning

assassinations out.

So you think in our public Discord server,

we planned an assassination, and in the

two-day window... Yeah, I mean... Okay, so, And in the two-day window...

Yeah, I mean...

Okay. So, but in the two-day window,

there was a bunch of Groyper's rating our Discord for two days.

Why did they not find evidence in this?

They did the whole parliamentary procedure on Discord.

At this point, Discord's like a... It's a political, it's a political application at this point.

What?

Okay, so we're talking about my server.

We're not talking about the application in general.

We're talking about my server, okay?

Your server?

My server. Was Tyler Robinson and my server like nick fuentes claims how many people were in your server maybe what four or five thousand

i don't know it seems pretty plausible to me at least one of those guys have to be a train with a gun.

At least one.

So you seriously claim that

at least one of them was Tyler Robinson.

Is a member of my community

and was planning this attack in my server?

It sounds a little more plausible to me than Israel doing it, you know?

And that is the crux of why I'm calling him a shill.

Because let's weigh the evidence for both.

There's zero evidence.

There's nothing that connects me to Charlie Kirk or Tyler Robinson. There's literally

nothing. But there is

so much that connects Charlie Kirk

to Israel, which you know,

and there's also a lot that connects

him to getting on the bad side of Israel.

Nick Fuentes admitted that.

Someone makes you...

When Nanyahu offers you...

When Nanyahu offers you $150 million

and a trip to Israel and you reject both,

I would say you're getting on his bad side.

Listen, the moment Nick Fuentes calls the Groyper community to arms,

we are all going straight to Palestine and arming up and fighting for Israel immediately.

Do you understand? That's what you need to understand. Do you understand?

All right.

So,

uh,

that's really funny,

by the way.

I mean,

um,

yeah,

what's up?

I,

I understand,

I kind of get it because,

like,

his,

his stream set up is like the Joker,

and it's like,

the whole point is,

like,

it's all a joke.

And, uh, like the Joker and it's like the whole point is like it's all a joke and it kind of reminds me it reminds me the song by

Simple Plan I'm just a kid

and laughing a nightmare

Can you sing that song?

Yeah, Hummit. I don't know how it goes.

I'll look it up on YouTube because it sounds like a very profound response to the...

You don't know how the song goes.

No, because it's not the...

It's not the...

It's not the emotional anthem of my movement. It's not the... It's not the... It's not the emotional anthem of my movement.

It's your movement.

You should know the song.

You probably have one song memorized, huh?

What, what the anthem of Russia?

Which one?

Huh?

You communist?

Are you a Catholic?

Are you Catholic?

Uh, yeah kind of mean. Are you a Catholic? Are you Catholic?

Yeah, of course.

No, I mean, you kind of hesitated a little.

What do you think about Jesus and Catholicism?

Burning an acrimet.

What is that?

Burning in excrement.

Oh, that's what you think.

Yeah, of course.

Okay.

Well, I guess that's what Nick Fuentes' followers think.

Yeah, we have a new name now.

It's called goyper. Boyper. We move the R. Get rid of it. Okay. Well, I mean, I don't know. For a Catholic movement to joke about Jesus in this way, it kind of seems a little strange to me, you know, but it's okay. I mean, everything's a joke. If everything's a joke, whatever. Just stop. Stop trying to get people to take you seriously if it's all a joke to you. Stop pretending like you care about Charlie Kirk and his death and whatever.

Orville, bring on more Groypers.

No one requesting is explicitly a Groyper, but I can bring on someone random.

Yeah, bring on one of these people.

Go ahead. Thank you. Halo 5, go ahead go ahead hello five go ahead hey hello five all right bring someone else on orville

yeah yeah yeah i have my mu down okay i see All right, bring someone else on, Orville. Hey, hey, hey, hey, yeah.

I had my, I had my mute on.

Okay.

I said, Charlie Kirk was a black man.

Okay.

He was assassinated by the white man.

What you say about that, man?

I'm waiting for everyone to get their laughs in before I interrupt.

I don't want to interrupt anyone's laughs.

So let's give it...

Nobody's laughing, brother.

Let's give it...

No, I'm asking your...

Let's give it 12 more seconds.

I'm asking you. I'm asking you. I'm asking you for real give it 12 more seconds asking you

i'm asking you for real man

with the black man

killed by the jail

okay i just want everyone to get their laughs in i don't want to interrupt it

was the black man i'm asking you want everyone to get their laughs in. I don't want to interrupt it.

What's the bright man?

I'm asking you a question, my fucker.

All right, Orovo, go ahead. You do? Go ahead, Albert.

Hey, man.

Yeah, the, The guy previous to

Halo was

Probably a Jew

LARPing as a

Groyper

You're gonna get a

You're gonna get a lot of people

A lot of the Groypers

They're gonna come in here and troll you

With a thumbnail title like that just

see you know okay because they're in so little faggots all right uh orville go ahead bring ahead, bring on some more people. So, I'm witcher, man.

I'm with you, man.

I'm with you.

I don't fuck with Nick Fuentes.

Nick Fuentes is just

He's with the Mossad

He's been compromised

I got you I agree

Orvo bring on more people

District go ahead

Well bring on one at a time

District go ahead

All I'm Well, bring on one at a time. District, go ahead.

All I'm saying is, be careful.

Because guess what?

I'm going to sit up here like I'm a Democrat.

Because I got cable.

So I got a whole bullet right here.

I can sue CNN and MSNBC after Jimmy Kimmel.

If Jimmy Kimmel was falling, y'all know y'all going to have to fall like Domino's.

All right, Orville, bring up... know y'all you all had to fall like dominoes all right Orvo

bring up

bring up some more people

preferably grovers

this is a GTA radio

or something

go ahead

Logan go ahead

what's up Logan, go ahead.

What's up?

Fellow Michigander, I kind of float around all these kind of circles leaning with like

different people here and there on things.

But something I'm curious about,

at what point do you think the shilling started? here and there on things, but something I'm curious about. At what

point do you think the shilling started?

I kind of flip back and forth

whether it started because of the

Charlie Kirk event. I think Rich... Or does it

go back farther? Probably farther.

I don't think it's just started with this.

Doesn't it seem like his movement

is less critical than it is hateful

towards it? As if

anti-Semitism is

somewhat of like a weapon

to be grown in his

movement. I kind of worry about

that. I think that

he could have been compromised since Jan 6.

It could have been earlier, who knows.

But I think he's compromised, for sure.

There's a lot of strange variables with it.

But that's all I really had to say okay for sure

love what you do let's keep

bringing on more people

yeah hey what's up Paz um Hello?

Yeah.

Hey, what's up, Paz?

Um, so can I... I just want to say a few things about Nick.

Um, I think that you are correct.

He's been compromised since January 6th,

and I just don't know why he hasn't been

charged. He's clearly on a megaphone

saying, ignore the police,

knock down the barricades, we're

taking the capital. You know, direct calls

for violence. He incited violence.

And what does he do? Well, three

of his gropeers, take his lead and they spend the prison. The next day, what does he do? Does he start a go fund me? Does he ask for donations for their legal funds? No, he calls them retards and never mentions them again.

On top of that, he had another

legal problem at the start of this year where

a Jewish woman went to his house,

a 60-year-old woman, went to ring his

doorbells, like, hi! She opens,

he opens up the door, pepper

spays her in the face and boots her down a flight of stairs, steals the phone and smashes it.

Look, if this was an ordinary civilian, he would have been charged for January 6th for Insighting, and he would have been charged for that assault.

You know, he's still walking through it.

And everyone takes his word for it.

Well, I've been banned from the Bank of America.

I was on a no-fly list.

It's like, well, is there any actual proof of that besides you?

Yeah, I've heard from credible sources.

I've heard enough that makes me skeptical of that whole narrative.

I'm just sharing my personal belief on that.

You know, I'm told Moore is going to get released regarding that.

That hasn't been yet but uh

I am very

skeptical of his like persecution narrative

I know he was D platform I mean I was D platform

from Twitch and I was

deplatvin from Twitter as well

the only reason I

kind of stopped on YouTube after a while, because I knew that was coming.

So, yeah, I'm pretty skeptical of his narrative about the whole in the no-fly list and the debanking stuff.

Let's bring in this other Groyper

go ahead go ahead and speak

go ahead and speak

okay nothing great

uh bring on uh bring on someone else P. Orville, you there?

Let's bring on someone else.

Yeah, they're connecting.

Got you.

Uh. Yeah, they're connecting. Got you. Ah. You know, and uh,

uh, Uh, N-O, let's go.

Go ahead and meet yourself.

Yo, Haas, I think it's pretty pathetic.

You're bringing a bunch of groopers up here that talk for Nick.

Honestly, what the fuck do you think you're doing? You of groopers up here that talk for Nick. Honestly,

what the fuck do you think you're doing? You're talking about the Jews? You worship the

Bolshevik Jewish cock

all the time. So I don't want to fucking hear

shit about, oh, Nick is chilling

out. He's being smart. You understand

that dumb ass. Not just jump into into conclusions not being a stupid cuck conspiracy theorist he's not jumping to conclusions no no there's more proof that it was a fucking call me than you the fucking being a groyper you're the ones calling him a groiper. Okay. Are you

saying he's not jumping to conclusions? Is that

what I heard? Yeah.

Okay. Did he jump to the conclusion that the

shooter was in my Discord though?

There's some solid proof, man.

What's the proof?

I want to hear it.

We've seen the chat logs.

And then you wipe the whole Discord.

Where are the chat?

Where are the chat logs?

You walk.

I promise you somebody in here probably has it.

Drop it down on the bottom.

Does the FBI have it?

Because I haven't heard from cash.

I mean, don't worry.

Don't worry.

You and Jackson.

If you guys have it, then I'm sure the FBI already has it.

You're Jackson Dickle, little faggot ass supporting Black Lives Matter are going to be locked up.

And trust me, Jackson Dickle, little faggot-ass,

loving Black Lives Matter,

he's going to get some black cock in prison.

I think you're a pussy

and you're acting like a tough guy.

Well,

you're a little five-free faggian.

No,

you're small,

you're small,

you're a small boy.

You're a small little cuck.

But you know what?

You know what's funny?

None of you people have ever said this to me in real life.

In real... And I would say it in face.

I would say...

Are you...

Do you think Nick Fuentes is your leader?

Is that who he is?

He's going to be the president of this country.

Did you say I'm 5-3?

You're shorter than Destiny, faggot.

Okay.

Nick Quentes is reportedly shorter than both me and Destiny.

He's two inches shorter.

Dude, Destiny is like, and Nick are probably around the same eye.

You're sure.

No, Nick Fentz actually did a comparison.

Wait.

Are you arguing?

Are you going to argue?

Are you going to argue?

Are you going to argue about your height, faggot?

Are you that insecure?

Well, it doesn't, it doesn't sound like you want to argue about anything but calling names and acting like a tough guy.

Dude, look, I'm not going to debate here for Nick because Nick's going to wipe the floor with you.

Nick's going to own you.

But Nick is refusing to debate me.

Nick will not debate me's.

Your Nick isn't debating

me. You and Jackson

Hickle. Based on what? So

is your debate that I'm going to jail? Is that your

debate? That I'm going to jail?

Oh, for a long time, buddy.

Okay, based on what?

Based on the logs. You are some, you're, you little communist faggars know nothing just

the kill. What logs? You have no God. You have no God. I'm going to jail for having no God. Is that what it is?

Yeah. And having little furry, tranny shooters go shoot at right conservatives.

Okay. And what does that have to do with me?

What does that have to do with you?

Right.

Everything, because you're part of the American communist movement. What do you think?

Okay. Was this person

part of my party?

I mean, he was in your discord.

Based on what evidence was he in my

discord? It was in your discord.

You guys, why?

Based on what? Hold on. Drop it down below.

Based on what evidence.

Look at your little call me faggots of my

chat, little homoes. Get the fuck

out of here. What evidence? Hey,

you sound really startled and

emotional like a woman. I sound startled.

Come on, bro.

Where's the evidence that he was in my Discord?

I'll wait.

Go ahead.

Go in the chat.

Somebody can post it.

Go ahead.

Little boy, little boy.

What's the evidence he was in my discord?

Listen, listen.

Anybody in the world could call me a little boy but you. You're about the size in my discord. Listen, anybody in the world could call me

a little boy but you. You're about the size

of my cock fat. Okay. Look, and

this is internet talk. This is

keyboard talk on the internet. In real life,

no one claims this. Okay? So

let's, let's, you know, hot,

you don't keep the energy in real life

you're a pussy, you're nothing

you're a bitch

be honest, be honest

if I was in front of you right now

and you said that

you're like please little tall

obey you back away

Hey listen

if you were in front of me right now

you would be calling Cash Patel begging him to come and arrest me.

Yeah.

You would be tagging the FBI just like Nick Flenthalis.

Cash Patel will tell you're a little call me faggot.

I see you with Bahá'u'll up.

You are a, yeah, you are a pussy boy on the internet talking tough

Yeah, sure

Watch my clips, faggot

Yeah, see what I do

So listen, little boy, listen to me

Where's the evidence he was in my Discord?

Little Bolshevik dick sucker

How you doing, man?

Hey, where's the evidence

He was in my Discord?

Let's hold over the fucking internet, bro.

I've seen all the proof.

You guys are hiding it.

You and Jackson Dick, oh, wait, it's the Groypers.

We've got to hide our movement.

You communists are fucked.

Based on what?

Oh, based on the proof.

You guys are going to jail?

A long time.

Is that your debate?

Nothing?

Yeah, no, I'm not debating for Nick.

I'm next to debate you.

So you're just here,

you're just here to announce to the world what a pussy you are.

I'm just letting you know.

I'm just here to let me know what a pussy you are

I'm bigger than your leader

Nick Fuentes so why are you even talking about

anything? Yeah but you're not

bigger than me though. Okay

so but you're not you're not here to talk

for Nick Fuentes right but he's your leader

that guy's your leader yeah i'm gonna let my leader go ahead and communicate for me and destroy your

little but he's not gonna he's not gonna he's not got that you're gonna put your shoulder didn your shoulder in Jackson. Didn't you see my space title?

He's a pussy.

He's not going to go after me.

He's not going to come near me.

He's not going to debate me.

How are you going to call a guy a pussy before that's already communicated with you and argued these facts?

When has you argued with these facts with me?

When?

Well, he's debated communism.

He's done it on a fucking,

when has he debated me about,

when has he debated me about communism?

I remember he debated me about Africa

and he lost badly.

Debated about Africa?

Yeah.

Let's be honest, bro.

What's up with you with Jackson Hickle loving Africans?

Like, you guys have like...

All right.

So you think Nick won that argument?

You think Nick won the argument about...

For sure. Okay. What was his argument and what was mine? Let's hear it. Your argument was,

you love black cock. And his argument was like, you're a little gay faggy. That's what the

argument was... Is this, by the way, Nick Fuentes recently said that he wants to have a high IQ movement.

Is this the, are you a high IQ person?

Part of his high IQ movement is letting Nick talk for his own movement.

Okay.

So that is your lead.

That's your dad, basically.

He's like your leader, right?

And you're just a retard follower.

Go ahead.

America first, baby.

So why do you let this little boy be your leader?

Little boy, you're saying a little boy who has this bigger movement than you hides.

Ever since you got banned on Twitch, what have you done?

What have you done what have you

done okay you remember there's a point of time you measure hold on hold let me finish talking faggy

remember there was a point of time where the destinies the hassan's they were scared of you they would

fear you in debates and now what are you? You're a little puny

faggy who needs Jackson Hickle

debate and cause

a movement for you. So the reason you're

not a failure. The reason you're not a man.

The reason you're not a man is because you measure people's...

Your movement sucks.

You have a trained little faggot that shoot right.

Why are you getting so emotional?

The reason you're not a man is because you measure a person's integrity and character based on how popular they are.

If we're going by that metric, there's plenty of people who are more popular than Nick Fuentes and therefore, according to your logic, better than him.

So did he not just the other day have the most viewers more than Kai more than any of his little

kandis owens just wiped the floor with his peak she got 200 out of your coaching

condo handus got 200 and,000 concurrent on YouTube.

You're jealous.

You're jealous.

Nick actually has a movement.

But Candice is bigger.

But Candice is bigger.

But Candice is bigger.

Nobody cares what a black woman has.

Well, according to your logic, being more popular means you're better and have more integrity.

I don't judge integrity that way, by the way.

I judge integrity based on how consistent someone is between their words and their actions.

You go on Instagram, you go on Instagram. You really know.

You don't see Cannes.

Okay.

You want to know what?

Let's let's say I'm a nobody, right?

Okay.

Why does your leader cry about me and fear me then?

He's communicated with you. I would be scared of a little five three why he communicated with me

by saying how much he likes me and how much he wants me to be his friend

that's not a debate. That's him.

Dude,

if somebody,

if somebody's being nice.

That's him being my fan and my sycophant.

I wanted a debate.

I mean,

you have to put his name in your title to get some,

you know,

viewership.

All right. Let's ask, let's ask the biggest numbers you know, viewership. All right.

Let's ask the biggest numbers you've done in years.

Let's ask the biggest numbers you've done in years.

Be honest.

Is this the most money you've made in years?

Not even close.

But let's ask this simple.

Hold on.

Ever since you got banned on Twitch when you lost it all.

I only have 600 viewers on

kick right now. I've had much more

in this. I know. I understand that.

So let's let's let's let's let's let's

when Nick goes live on kick. How many viewers

is usually how? And yet you're here

watching how many viewers? How many viewers? You're here

in my space instead of watching him.

How many?

No, no, no.

I'm not watching you.

I'm not doing anything.

I can't in the space to understand something.

Are you a straight man?

This is a straight man.

Be like,

this guy is so much more popular than you.

It's like,

what's your point?

It doesn't mean anything.

than you?

It's like, what's your point?

It doesn't mean anything.

Candace is more popular than him.

Anyway, let's get to the actual point.

Yeah, run.

Let's get to, no, let's actually get to the, let's get to the point.

Nobody's running from the fact that he gets more live viewers than me.

No one cares. Like your old friend, like your old friend.

You're drowning. No one cares. Like your old friend. Like your old friend. You're drowning.

Okay.

Thank you.

Yeah, you're just embarrassing yourself.

You're actually a pussy. You're avoiding

the topic at hand.

You wouldn't say this. You wouldn't say this to be a person.

Yes, I would.

I'll happily say to you in person.

And by the way, who started talking, who started talking about who first?

Did I start talking about Nick Fuentes first?

Or has every interaction I've ever had with him where there's any kind of internet beef between us?

Who started?

Jackson Snow Bunny Hickle started?

No.

Nick Fuentes with me.

I'm talking about myself.

Nick Fuentes,

every single time, every single time,

there's been an encounter

between me and Nick Fuentes.

He started and mentioned me

first, the guy who's irrelevant.

So remember this about your leader.

I'm on his radar and he knows who the fuck I am.

Because you had a murderer.

No, that was even before, that was before this retarded blame and accusation.

And you're going to get black.

You're going to jail.

And you know what, buddy?

Hold on.

What if I don't go to jail, then what?

What are you going to do?

If you don't go to jail when I see you knuckle up, little gay boy.

You're going to be like, holy shit.

You know what?

I'll hold you to that. I'm going to hold you.

I'll hold you to that.

I live stream all the time.

I'll hold you to that.

I do too.

I do too.

When I see you, I'll see you.

You're going to see whatever I hold those communist movement really was about.

Those are people.

And you're not even what what you're a cuckold

you're not even white according to these

people you fucking cuck

so let me ask you

no we are white sir

we are white

sir we are white

sir we are white

a billion you're not sir we are European

no no no sir we are European.

No, no, no, sir, we are Albanians.

We are white Europeans.

You're a fucking cuck.

You're a fucking cuckold, bitch.

Shut the fuck up, talking to me, tough.

You little bitch, you're not even a a white boy You're a fucking brown Albanian

Shut the fuck up you cuck

You literally follow a guy

Who thinks you're fucking subhuman

You little bitch

Why the fuck would you talk tough to me

When you are a fucking broken cook on your fucking knees?

For a fucking movement that considers you subhuman, you little bitch?

You and Jackson Higgledon.

Why the fuck are you talking shit

Jackson is a million times more white

than you ever will be

and you are according to the logic

of your own fucking movement

Jackson is your master

he's your master

according to your own movement.

George Floyd's master.

George Floyd's master.

No, he's your master.

You are the Albanian

who's brown, according to your own movement's logic.

Your fake Muslim Muhammad would behead you.

If I was a real

Muslim, you're a real Muslim?

Are you a Muslim?

No, I'm a Catholic.

Okay. Are you going to talk shit

about your Albanian Muslims like

Fuentes does? Do you have the

balls to do that? Do you have the balls to do that?

Do you have the balls to talk about...

I think they're confused.

I think they're confused.

Okay.

But you don't have the balls.

Because you're, hey, pussy boy.

The reason you don't have the balls

to talk about Islam

like your leader does.

You're a fucking traitor to your own people.

Bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch boy.

Bitch boy, shut your mouth.

You don't have the balls to talk

about your Albanians.

The way that Flint does

talks about Islam.

You watch Jacksonville. He gets fucked by black men.

Black lives matter.

Okay.

This is a strange fantasy that we could only interpret as projection from a movement that is clearly undocumented to be pedophilic for young boys. Oh, pedophilic

for young boys.

Oh, pedophilic, really?

Dude.

Cat boy.

Cat boy movement.

Where's your cat ears?

Where's your cat ears, bitch boy?

Where's your cat ears, bitch boy?

Shut your fucking mouth talking to me. You know out. Where's your cat ears, bitch boy? Hey.

Shut your fucking mouth talking to me.

You talk about Islam like Nick Fuentes does, and then we can talk about who's tough.

You're a pussy.

You'll never do it.

What do you want to know about Islam?

Insult

Islam like Nick Fuentes does, so

all your fellow Albanian Muslims can see

that. We can talk about it all day. You won't

do it. You won't do it.

You won't do it. You won't do it. You won't do it.

You'll mock and insult.

Go ahead and do it.

Do it.

I don't have a question for you, retard.

Why would I have a question for you?

You're a fake Muslim.

You're a fake Muslim.

Why would that even, what do you mean a fake Muslim?

What does that even mean?

A fake Muslim.

A real Muslims, what Nick Fuentes says about real Muslims. What Nick fake Muslim. A real Muslim.

What Nick Fuentes says about real Muslims.

You're a fucking Kufar.

You're not an extremist.

You're not like Abuisa.

You're not a real one.

If you're a Muslim, right, you turned your DNA on your Muslim family to be a little

comy faggot to worship a

Jewish god, the Bolsheviks.

You know what you want? Did you just say a Jewish

God? Is that what you just said?

Did you just say a Jewish god?

Oh, you don't allow Sharia.

Did you just say a Jewish god?

Yeah, yeah, the Bolsheviks.

Okay. What was Jesus?

Jesus. It doesn't matter what Jesus was.

Okay, it doesn't matter what Jesus was.

By the way, this is the epitome of high IQ.

This is the high IQ anti-Semitism

Nick was talking about.

Orvo, keep bringing people up.

Ah, Jacob Frank. Jacob, ah jacob frank jacob this has to be about nick fentes all right i already know this guy he's a regular this got to be about nick flintas jacob was israel behind it? Yes or no?

Well, I'm going to let the facts fall where they may.

Do you think Israel is behind it?

I want to talk to Albanian.

Okay, well, he's gone now.

Orvo, keep bringing people up, preferably Groyper's.

So they can defend their small boy leader who's... who is scared to stand next to Destiny without wearing heels.

Keep bringing people up, Orville. They're connecting. Thank you. uh they're still connecting uh they still connecting?

Yeah.

Bring on someone else just for good measure because it's kind of taking a long time.

By the way, not once have I mentioned Latino Zoom or this entire stream. The Groyper General who just got five years in prison for planning to shoot up a TPPSA convention with Charlie Kirk.

Go ahead, Bert.

Go ahead.

I'm sorry.

Were you talking to me?

I've got bad service format.

Yep. You're up

oh, America

What?

What?

I can't hear you.

He's got bad service.

Orville, can you bring on someone else while this guy fixes his stuff? go ahead Sam

but hey-hads a long time to talk oh man there's some low IQ people coming up on stage

right be crazy um so in my opinion my mic working now. I'm moving along.

Yeah, it works now.

Go ahead, Bert.

Sorry, I just want to say, I don't know how much of you heard.

I said social socialist movement.

I just want to say Nick Fuentes is a fucking faggot.

He's not white.

admitted that.

I don't agree with our circle.

Okay.

Go ahead. we got it

go ahead Sam

yeah

so in my opinion

all this is Nick

trying to

distance himself

from people that are a bit more accelerationist trying to distance himself from

people that are a bit more accelerationist

so that he can,

he's probably trying to pull

Charlie Kurtz audience.

No,

that's clear.

That's abundantly clear

he's trying to grift

and he's hoping he's going to be brought up

and welcomed into the

the con ink machine.

I think that's clear.

You know, in the odd event that he's not a

compromised, you know, whateverbi informant or whatever they say

you know he could just be a dishonorable self-serving grifter who's uh seeing this as an opportunity

to go mainstream which is what he says he always

wants to do anyway.

But, you know, he's roped me

into it. He's roped

Jackson in, and

well, he has to suffer the consequences

by being exposed in terms

of his credibility, in terms of his credibility in terms of his reputation

he's not he's not a credible actor it's that simple i like to ask you i there was a time when

the three of you all got relatively along.

Who, who's the three of us?

I'm sorry, Jackson Hinkle as well.

And Nick Flenton.

We didn't know him.

We didn't know him.

We didn't know who he was.

All we knew was what was being said about him.

Now, we were in a media environment where you can't trust what people are saying.

I mean, people say shit about us.

They're calling us fascists.

They're calling us this and that.

We don't know what people are saying.

So, you know, Jackson, you know, tried to get an idea of what this guy was himself, what

was his character, what's his motivations.

I, myself, just wasn't interested in learning more, to be honest.

I just thought it's irrelevant to me.

I did think that, you know, I did find it suspicious that I got banned on Twitch like a day after I had my discussion with him when I first met him. And additionally, you know, he was very good friends with Destiny. He was buddy, budding with Destiny. Destiny is the one who brought him mainstream.

And people like to forget that,

but that's how it was. And

that made me very suspicious, to be honest.

I was like, something weird is here, you know?

There's some, like, I

sensed, I have no proof, but I sensed my intuition my gut instinct

was that there was some kind of backdoor coordination um in terms of the strategy to

bring him back mainstream. Something between Destiny

and Fuentes, or they both have similar

handlers, or I don't know.

Just very fishy. It was very fishy how all that

went down.

I ignored it.

I ignored it and whatever.

Now, Jackson, um,

Jackson crossed over in terms of like,

they, they had to meet each other because they're,

they are like occupying a similar media space.

Jackson was growing in prominence

and at that point

Nick Fuentes wanted to recruit Jackson

Jackson

um Jackson obviously wasn't

entertaining that but he was

interested in knowing more like who

is Nick Fuentes what What is his real? Whatever.

So Jackson learns about him, and he was just thoroughly unimpressed in terms of his potential as a political actor.

Not in terms of a media guy, but as a political actor. He also thought that...

Another thing was like he wanted to learn about his real politics versus the accusations.

I remember when Jackson was telling me, he's like, yeah, this kid is actually like a fucking...

He's straight up a neo-i like he actually is right like we

didn't know this you know and then there were other things like uh he would observe how nick fentes

he would berate the white working class and all this stuff. Jackson didn't like that himself.

You know, he,

he very much sympathizes with the white working class.

And, uh,

you know,

it's part of,

I mean,

he,

he partially comes from that background.

So,

you know, I think when, when Flinta started going hard denouncing, like, white trash and white working class people and denigrating them and shit, I think Jackson was just like, all right, fuck it, fuck this guy.

And that's how the beef started, I guess, I think.

But then, you know, Jackson, you know, obviously there's no more friendship.

There never was, but no more positive interactions.

But then as time went on, it started to get extreme because Jackson

would just grow and grow and grow and Fentes

became this ankle biter

who constantly would like

reply and talk shit

and call him a third worldist

and all this other nonsense because

why? Because we actually have a comprehensive

understanding of the regime and the global system that supports it. And for that simple reason,

we pay attention to things going on in Africa, in Asia, in Latin America, and so on and so on, how that affects the global system that is the foundation and the basis of the regime that occupies us.

And when we see rebellions, you know, worldwide, whether it's in Africa, whether it's an elsewhere, when we see regimes, sovereign regimes emerge that form key pieces of this new kind of global revolution against the system, we have a positive appraisal of that. We have, you know,

optimism. And we see these as positive developments. So he called us a third worldist because

of that. And the petty reason is very simple. He just thinks black

people are subhuman and that when black people rebel against the system, globally I mean,

against the global system in Africa by regaining their own sovereignty and trying to make

steps to improve their lot, He, you know, he's like, well, that means

that I have to start treating black people as human, even in America. And he just doesn't like that,

I guess. So he started, he started ankle biting us because of that.

And then the strange point of no return happened, right?

The kid Nick Fuentes started calling for Jackson to be arrested for exercising his First Amendment rights in terms of speaking out against Zionism.

And then finally, he called for Jackson to be killed.

He... He called for... publicly. He celebrated the idea of,

and he

called for

Jackson to

be murdered

in Yemen.

Jackson

went to

Yemen to

show

solidarity

with the

people there

that were

under a

terroristic

attack from

Zionism

and the

regime,

frankly,

and he went there as a gesture of like, you know, we're against this war, we're against this intervention.

It's wrong. The world should know the truth of what's going on.

He's exercising his first man rights.

Fuentes said that he wants Trump to kill him.

He said, I hope Trump sends you to hell.

He said, Trump can do the funniest thing.

Then he goes, I can't wait for Trump to send you to hell, right?

So he wasn't just joking.

He was genuinely wishing death upon Jackson.

His followers... I mean, I think he was joking. It's getting

Christianity. No, he was not joking.

You could say, oh, maybe he was

joking about Trump can do the funniest thing.

But then as the interactions between him

and Jackson continues, I can't

wait for Trump to send you

to hell.

And with the ex... Because Yemen

was being bombed at that time. Keep that in mind.

Okay? So, Fentes

called for Jackson to be murdered,

but in a legal way, I guess, because it would be murdered by the regime.

This is why Flint doesn't care about murder and the sanctity of life or any of these things he claims he care about.

He cares about whether or not you can get away with it. If he can't get away with it, he'll denounce it,

because he doesn't want to be targeted. He doesn't want to go in jail. But he is the, his movement

is violent. It absolutely is violent. And I can show you no other proof than the, than his own

fans and followers in this very space.

They're calling for me to be... The last guy that came up.

Not just him, but his followers consistently

talk about having me killed,

talk about having me tortured,

talk about this,

talk about that.

I mean, this is a violent movement.

Latino Zumer is facing five years in prison

for threatening to shoot up

a TPA USA convention with Charlie Kirk in it.

This is a movement, put it this way,

this is a movement that has no problem

using violence

to settle scores

with people who have opposing

opinions and worldviews

well to be fair i'm sure nick had no

knowledge of that

well i'm sure that that is

a person's character gets exposed

when they can get away with it.

Now he can't get away with calling for people's death

legally. He'll go to jail.

But if he feels like he can get away

with calling for Jackson's murder, as long as he's calling for Trump to drone him, this clearly reveals this is a violent mind. This is a person who's wishing death upon someone, wants them to be killed

because they have an opposing world view

because they have an opposing opinion

because they're exercising their speech in a way he doesn't like.

Right now his followers are calling for

not only me and Jackson but Hassan Piker and everyone

else to be thrown in prison and to be tortured because they disagree with what we say and what we stand for and what we believe.

These are people.

I heard the rant.

And yeah, so these are people who are okay with violence, whether it's state, systemic violence, whether it's personal violence.

As long as they can get away with it, they're okay with it.

And we have to understand this about this movement he's cultivating.

It's an extremist, violent, potentially terrorist movement.

And it's only apparently operating within the bounds of the law for as long as they can.

But we saw what happened with Latino Zumer and who knows what's going to happen in the future.

Go ahead.

Yeah, you know, something I'm beginning to notice, and I think Nick's, he's a great debater, like yourself and Jackson, you're all top-notch debaters, in my opinion.

No glaze.

But his big issue is just like Trump,

rather than being about ideology and character,

he values loyalty above all else

to his detriment,

to the point of toxicity.

And I know that when,

I mean, immediately after Jackson Hinkle,

basically said this, said a few slur terms toward Nick in a stream,

Nick went,

I think it really

hurt Nick's feelings

he's all betrayed.

And that's just not a,

that's not a good sign.

It's not very good.

Even in that scenario,

you know,

this is an incredible,

this is like an emotional,

estrogenic, like this is an incredibly is like an emotional estrogenic

like this is an incredibly

unstable psychology

like you know like

I'll yell at people

you know like that guy who came on

you know we had a

we had a

barking match if you will

whatever you know I'm a big dog big dog want to come a barking match, if you will, whatever.

You know, I'm a big dog.

Big dog want to come bark at me.

You know, sometimes I'll be like, shit, you know.

But at the end of the day, when it comes to my actual actions,

when it comes to my strategy, my strategic tact.

I don't... The consideration of how people personally treat me

or how they call me names or whatever, that doesn't figure.

What figures to me is the strategic significance

for the politics, for the movement.

If he is truly, as you describe,

he's such a petty little diva, little boy,

that he is motivated purely by personal pettiness,

and he's motivated by, you know he's motivated by just like I don't know settling scores with people that hurt his feelings

he's emotional that's not somebody who should be the head of any kind of big movement or be

empowered with any kind of voice.

And look, I used to defend everyone's right to free speech.

I used to do that and be principled.

But now that I see he's a tool of the regime to suppress our speech?

What can I say?

It's so cynical.

They don't care about free speech.

We should all remember that.

But all of us on the left should remember that.

They don't care about free speech.

There's nobody who consistently advocated for more free speech on the left more

than me.

And they're calling for me

to be suppressed.

I was through the whole Biden

regime, and I consistently

raised my voice defending right-wingers who are being suppressed.

They call upon me to be jailed and to be suppressed for what, for hurting their leader's feelings feelings these are people who don't have

principles they don't have integrity they're cynical they're violent and uh americans

should consider them frankly a threat a threat to their livelihood

anyway that's all I can say

red maze with the 25

what's going on

uh this groyper guy I don't Red Mays with the 25 What's going on?

This Groyper guy I don't think he talked last time

By the co-host is gone

Fuck

Hold on I'll bring on Rev if Rev can come

Go ahead

Speak Alright Warren you go ahead speak

all right

Warren you go ahead

the other guy left

okay

I'm gonna

I'm gonna come at this

like the civil way

I'm gonna come out like the civil way

and I'm gonna see how you

take you um you know I'm 60 years old

how long I think this is pertinent before I started speaking you know um I've been in um I probably got more Nazi tattoos on my arms than, then you've probably ever seen.

Okay.

So let's just let's just let us speak for itself.

I'll shut that part down.

Okay.

So go a little further. let's just let let that speak for itself and I'll shut that part down. Okay. So,

go a little further.

Look,

you went into this

tirade with this guy

and started yelling and

blah blah, blah,

you're wasting

valuable,

precious time if you're real valuable precious time

if you're real hos

okay i want you to be real

yeah i really do

but the thing is i think i wasted

about approximately 15 or 10

minutes

that's good of you hey man you know what it takes a stand 15 or 10 minutes.

That's good of you.

Hey man.

You know what?

It takes a stand-up freaking dude to admit that.

Yeah.

That's a good point.

That's, yes.

Okay.

One may,

you know,

you got a home run.

Anyway,

this guy is just sh ahead and his bus.

This guy's just shitting in his toilet.

Great.

Royper, he's just shitting.

Okay.

Is that it?

I wonder if it's a soundboard if he's actually taking the shit.

Remarkable.

I need a co-host.

Well, he got disconnected.

I need Darg.

Come back and, if you can, just to bring Orvo back up. Someone come up that I invite to co-host just to bring Orvo up so I can see him because I can't see him right now for whatever reason.

And then you can leave the co-host.

Oh boy. Hold on. Jerko! What's up? Zero requests. That's crazy. Okay, I actually can do this.

No, I can't. Fuck.

There's no way I can search him. Alright, right well we're kind of at a stand still no no co-host Orvo, I know Orver wants to reconnect.

The problems I can't see him.

I need to bring on someone else as a co-host who can then bring him up.

Okay, Seraph, perfect.

Perfect. bring him up okay seraph perfect perfect or a bc perfect um all right we're allowed to have up to two co-hosts remove one one co-host. But I don't have a co-host. Hold on. This is crazy. Co-hosts. Zero co-hosts and zero open spots. All right. This is ridiculous.

Okay, hold on. Should work now.

Grant, what's up? All right, serif.

All right, There we go. Um, if you guys could bring Orvo up as a speaker. We'll wrap this up in about 10 minutes. We'll bring on a few more speakers um all right bring on orvo right here

co-host bring on a few more speakers,

preferably grovers,

and then we're going to wrap it up. Amirio with the 10, what's up?

Canada, Go ahead. Go ahead, Canada.

Infra with the 6th. What's going on, bro?

Thank you. I appreciate you, bro.

Okay. This guy was already on.

Fuck's sake.

Yeah, just bring on

new people

who are...

Oh, there's only two requests to speak.

Okay, so there's no one else.

Well, there you have it, I think.

I think we're going to wrap up is there anyone else

orvo

there's two people requesting i brought them up but they're still connecting

okay they're still connecting well, bring them up. You know, There's nobody.

Nobody. Vanguard, go ahead.

So, Paz, how you doing? Good. so,

pause, how you doing?

Good.

So I just wanted to ask you a simple question.

Just,

so what is the ACP's view

on Catholicism

and religion in general.

In our party constitution, respect or at least, you know, a rejection of offending the traditional religions, main traditional religions, we ban it. So even if someone is an atheist in our party, no one gets to insult Catholicism, no one gets to insult any of the major traditional faiths. So we consider these sacred. And we have many Catholic members of our party.

And I think it would not be difficult for me to prove that our party's philosophy, its actions, its deeds are far more in line with Catholic social teaching than the so-called America First movement, which is full of degenerates, which is full of, um, not simply sinful people, right? Because all people are sinful, but these are malign, malicious. You could even say evil people

right these are people who thrive

off of what

spreading lies

falsehoods

fantasizing about torture

and killing and

dark woke I really agree.

Yeah, so we're not an officially

Catholic organization, obviously, but we have many

Catholic members of our party and

respect for Catholicismism among all other traditional faiths is institutionalized.

So it reminds me a lot of the Russian Communist Party and how they work with the Russian Orthodox Church.

It also reminds me of Vietnam.

Absolutely the same kind of thing we're aiming for.

We work with churches.

And actually had Catholics in the Viet Cong.

He had actually high-ranking Catholics as generals in the

PAVN. So.

And then there's the facts of the

the communists

in Latin America,

you know?

Like Nicaragua, yeah.

Nicaragua, yes, and so

yeah, I mean, for us

we are not

in any way opposed to Catholic

believers and Catholic religion

Yeah, so we

believe in an alliance between

communists and believers, basically.

So,

it's not quite as extreme as saying

that we want to impose a

theocracy on America,

I guess.

But it's the honest, we're being truthful. See, they are not truthful about who they really are. They claim they want to institutionalize Catholicism and

they're the most holy, faithful believers and so on, but they

don't have belief. They are cynical, nihilists, liars, slanders. They employ all manner of dirty tactics and tricks.

And they don't even take it seriously.

No, why would you say, because I know that it's probably going to be a few brokers

are going to ask this, but like, what would

you say about, like, the Bolshevik

persecution with, like, clergy

in Russia?

I think it's

much more than

what the official story tells us.

The official story tells us there was simply a persecution because the Bolsheviks were militant atheists who rejected religion.

That's not true.

The Bolsheviks restored the patriarchy, the institution, the original institution of the Russian Orthodox

Church, which was abolished by the Westernizer, Tsar Peter.

And there was an effort to preserve the church and so on.

So long as it was not a tool for, A, for an interest, and B, for the interests of the landowners and the feudal forces that had been overthrown in the revolution.

And there was fierce conflicts within the church about this and so on and so on.

Now, despite this fact, among communists and some communist activists there was a degree of persecution you know not in a legal way according to soviet laws this was outside the legality outside the constitution of the soviet system

and such things did occur and they were denounced by Stalin

if you read his uh...

work it's called dizzy with success he denounces

how during some of the collectivization efforts

there was the removal of church bells

he says what's the point

of removing these church bells this is not

this is not part of

what we're trying to do here this is outside

the bounds of what we would consider acceptable

there were absolutely excesses there were absolutely also outside the bounds of what we would consider acceptable.

There were absolutely excesses.

There were absolutely also infiltrators who were not even original Bolsheviks,

but who wormed their way up and climbed their way up to the top

during the period of the 20s and the 30s.

And there were many things that happened.

First, some of these infiltrators,

their goal was the overthrow of the Soviet system.

Others committed atrocities in an effort to create widespread animus, sorry, animosity toward the Soviet state. This such was the case of Yeshoff, you know, who was killed in the Great Purges.

So I don't, I'm not saying the Bolshevik system succeeded in eliminating all bad faith actors from the very beginning.

It took a decade or two for that to happen.

And it never fully happened, by the way,

because then after Stalin's death, you had Khrushchev and so on,

spelling in Gorbachev ultimately, right?

So, I'm not claiming...

It's massively interesting.

Sorry?

I said that's massively interesting.

Is there, like, any breeding material

you can offer on that?

Like I said,

I'm not a communist,

nor am, you know, a Groy,

but I'm kind of,

I guess, more of the left nationalist,

so I'm kind of on the fence.

Do you know what I'm saying?

Okay, yeah, I think the first thing

I could recommend is that if you're interested in the revisionist history regarding Stalin and the USSR, I would point in the direction of Timothy Snyder.

Sorry, no, no, no, not Timothy Snyder. I'm so sorry.

Groverfer.

He wrote a book rebuking Timothy Snyder. I'm so sorry. Groverfer. He wrote a book rebuking Timothy Snyder.

I could also say that I would encourage you to read the revisionist school of Soviet

history, which is more mainstream and academic, actually.

People like Sheila Fitzpatrick and so on and so on even in some cases like J.R. Gettie and I would recommend looking into what's his name The guy who did a huge biography, a Stephen Kotkin.

Now, I don't agree with them ideologically, but they, they're not as loose with the facts as, you know, Robert Conquest or, uh, what's his name? Richard Pipes

or whatever.

So,

or like Timothy Snyder and so on and these other kind

of reckless, sensationalists.

So, just,

if you just kind of

study the facts, because there's so much facts and i mean this is what

people don't get about communist history it's like you i can't just go off the bat recommending

people like michael perentee and apologists stuff. This was a different world.

Just like we had grade school and we had to learn about the basics of American history and stuff.

I mean, this is a totally different history and a totally different timeline.

And you got to really study the facts to get a good picture of what the hell was going on,

you know, behind the iron curtain, behind this red wall.

But that's the best I could say. Now the final

person we'll have on is Soldier

XD. Go ahead and unmute

yourself.

Hello?

Yeah.

Can you hear me well?

Yep.

All right.

Well, yeah, I just wanted to

question an earlier statement you made.

Well, first of all, I want to leave by saying I'm not from an English-speaking country, so if I say words wrong, that's why.

But I just want to question the statement you made.

You said something along the lines, I'm paraphrasing here, but you said that Nick Fences

is uncomfortable with Yu Haas and Jackson Hinkle's, quote-unquote, comprehensive

understanding of the Zionist infrastructure and the American regime. But didn't you say,

just a couple years ago with destiny and Nick Francis,

you said that Jews don't control America?

You don't believe that?

Well, most people

when they think of Jews,

this is the truth,

they think of powerful

Jewish billionaires and capitalists,

they think of the Zionist lobby. They think of the forces of Zionism within America. They think of the Israel and the Zionist entity. They think of, you know, powerful people in Hollywood and so on and so on this is what people when they

say jewish control are referring to and those people are part absolutely part of the ruling

capitalist class according to me i have no problem fully and comprehensively and unconditionally

uh rejecting and opposing them, which I do.

That's why for me, to say that there's Jewish control of America is not enough, if that's what you mean by Jewish.

There is an entire capitalist class

including Jews

and I am

not impressed with simply saying

we want

Goyim landlords and

Goyim interest bearers and

Goyim bankers and Goyem bankers

and Goyem

Black Rock. I believe

on a systemic and structural

level, the

current status quo needs to be

overturned.

In a way that applies to all, all needs to be overturned.

In a way that applies to all,

all bad faith actors who are trying to exploit

the American people.

Well, that's fine, but

isn't it a little weird that Nick Forintsters

has, you know, he's been

pretty steadfast in this belief that

Jews are overwhelmingly

you know, overrepresented in certain

industries and certain areas of American

you know, society and politics and stuff like that?

Like he's been saying that for a while now.

I agree.

I do find it very weird.

Even before you were really honing in on now, you were more saying it was the Anglos and stuff.

You were talking about the ruling capitalists, class,

is because look at the consequences of that position.

Because his position was not articulate articulate it wasn't specific enough let's say he now is running cover for actual jewish power so to speak the concrete one which is zionism which is which is Israel, which is the Mossad.

Now, he likes to get into the metaphysics of the theology.

He likes, his is a theological position.

It's not a concrete position.

His is a, quote, unquote, spiritual position.

It's not a material position he does not even oppose jewish

capitalists he doesn't oppose uh jewish people in wall street and so on and so on plundering

america he says it's a spiritual battle between cath theology and Jewish theology.

Jewish there's a pretty

complicated issue, to be fair.

I mean, it is hard

to not be vague about that. But at this point, we're picking

and choosing complexity.

When I insist upon the complexity

of reality, people say that i'm coping in the midst of

something very simple but i i beg to think i think my position is very simple i oppose those

who control and own the means of production, which means the means of life, in ways that are used to exploit and enslave the majority of Americans.

Whether they're Jewish or Gentile, and I'm not afraid to admit that many of them are Jewish.

I have no, it's a superfluous position to me.

I have no.

But the idea, but it just seems preposterous to me the idea that Nick, who has been

talking about this for such a long time and he's, he's been very, I mean,

this is what he's known for right now.

No, no, no.

He's known for being anti-Israel being anti.

I don't know the true origins of Nick Fuentes, sir.

The true origins of Nick Fuentes.

Right, so let's get into that then.

It's all you need to look at.

It wasn't Nick Fuentes... So why do you think...

What do you think Nick Fuentes is a show based on...

I can explain...

I can explain this.

Nick Fuentes is, you know, standing up, quote unquote, to Jewish power or whatever.

That is not a consequence of some kind of principled character or some kind of unique insight or original view.

All of it came from 4chan. It all came from an anonymous movement on the internet, primarily anonymous internet phenomena, of the alt-right and the and that's where the jq

actually comes from it comes from anonymous internet boards and it comes from overwhelmingly

online sentiment and in terms of who are the main influencers behind that, I mean, these are

people, you go back decades,

but it was mainly a decentralized

grassroots thing. That's the origin

of the entire alt-right.

Fuentes, from a

very, very young age,

was throwing bones to

and gaining an audience by tapping

into that, something that already

existed before him.

So he was not the originator

of, you know,

uh,

JQ based politics in the USA.

He was someone who was riding a wave already in existence.

I'm not claiming that.

I'm not claiming that.

But way before you,

he was,

he was very loud,

he was very loud about this issue.

And you weren't.

He was loud about this issue

only to the extent that it was

already a trend. It was already

a trend. What do you mean?

How was he lying about this issue?

Because he didn't invent the alt-right.

That was already something going on

on the internet from

I remember I'm older than he it's branded the

he were branded the alt-right he reformed it okay he gave it one face among many

other faces Richard Spencer was another face there many other faces Richard Spencer Richard Spencer was another face

there were many faces

okay

it wasn't just his face

there was Richard Spencer

we're kind of drifting off the point I just want to know

why why do you think

Nick Fences is a shill

based on

because I mean you look at the contrast between what he's Do you think Nick Fences is a shill based on... Because...

I mean, when you look at the contrast between what he...

It's very simple.

It's very simple.

Because the guy clearly depends upon forces, not within his control.

He has to grift off of things that already exist.

That's established, right?

So October 7th, there's widespread animosity against...

I think that's established at all.

We need to establish that he has to grift off of these things.

Because he would have no career...

He would have no career...

He would have no career and no existence,

where not for the fact that he was being a face and a vehicle for anonymous 4chan users. That's what he was. That already existed. That whole ideology and worldview and whatever, that already existed. He didn't invent it. He wasn't the

pioneer. So he has

to capture

an existing audience and trend and movement

that already exists. So my

question is how

when he captures it, what does he do

with it? That's why I call him a shill.

What does he do with the audience and the movement that he captures?

What does he do with it?

After his generational run...

He made it better.

Way better.

He is way more organized now.

No, he is the... First of all, no, he didn't. made it better. Way better. He is way more organized now.

First of all,

no, he didn't.

Because right before this,

he was talking about,

we're going to go vote for Newsome and a bunch of other nonsense.

He never created his own party.

He never created his own

independent political force.

And at this decisive moment, this is where the kicker

is. This is the most important thing.

The conclusion

of his entire generational run,

quote unquote, right? Where he's getting all these new viewers,

he's getting all these people. What is he

directing them towards to do?

He's directing them

to give their full

consensus and support

to a completely

artificial,

completely synthetic,

extremely suspect, attempt by the regime to crack down on quote

unquote, the left. He's denying the possibility there's any Israel involvement in Kirk's

assassination, and he's using and he's using

everything he gained to fully

support a quote unquote crackdown on

the left which even people on

the extreme right know

will be used against

them in the future

if allowed to happen.

So this is why he's a shill.

He's an Israel shill, because he's not only running cover for Israel, but he is advocating

for the objectives of the Mossad in this country,

which is the destruction of our Constitution,

so that the Zionist regime can, with impunity,

persecute all dissidents and skeptics of the system and of Israel.

That's why he's a shill.

Oh, he left.

I don't know what happened. happen. You see, nothing I'm saying is petty, you know, and the substance.

I'm responding to pettiness sometimes, sure, but in essence, why I'm making this argument is pretty comprehensive. It's pretty

impersonal. It's pretty impartial, actually. Nothing is based on pettiness or some kind of personal

grievance or something. I'm telling you the truth. He is an incredibly suspect actor,

and he is, objectively speaking, a shill for Israel.

His excuse for not entertaining...

I'll conclude it this way.

His excuse for not entertaining the Israel angle

doesn't hold

to his own

standard of evidence that he uses against

Jackson and me and Russia.

So,

basically, TLDR, Nick

is willing to say Russia did it,

but he's not even willing to even entertain the possibility. Israel did it. He's willing to say I did it, and Jackson did it. He's not even willing to entertain Israel. Orvo, are there any other Groyper's requesting? I see six. Six requests.

None of them look like

Gropers, but there's no way to know.

Okay.

Any of them anime?

No.

Okay. Well,

we'll wrap it up there then.

We'll conclude it right there.

So, there you have it.

And by the way, he won't debate me.

And we can all see why, you know.

It's not rocket science.

I'm someone who doesn't like to bullshit.

I like to get straight to the bullshit. I like to get straight

to the facts. I like to get straight to the

point of contention. I like to get straight to the logic.

Straight to the structure of the logic and the reasoning.

Don't care that much about rhetoric.

I care about what's at stake for any

free thinking person who wants I care about what's at stake for any free-thinking person

who wants to know what the truth is for themselves,

who wants to know what the best solution is for themselves.

Not who's the most likable and who wants to be

your friend. No one on the internet is your

friend, by the way.

This is what honesty looks like.

By the way.

Anyway, we'll wrap it

up there.

Sorry, I lost connection somehow.

Are you wrapping it up?

I was going to, but you can finish

whatever you wanted to.

I don't know when I was cut off.

I can't remember where.

I was just talking about why I think he's a...

Yeah, you weren't talking.

I just wrapped up why I think he's a shill.

I gave two reasons.

Okay.

Okay, I'll just wrap up then.

I'll say, I don't think he's a shill.

What I've seen from him the last two years or something,

because that's how long I've been following him.

I've seen a guy who's just very inquisitive

and I do think it is such a large issue.

I think someone like, and I'm just going to

say that, I think something like Ryan Dawson,

I think he knows more than Nick Frenz

or something like that. But I think Nick Frenz

is, I think he's very knowledgeable in this.

And I don't think he's,

I don't think he's covering for anybody.

I think, honestly, he has some,

he has some hot takes,

but I don't think this one's a hot take,

really.

I don't think there's that sufficient

of evidence to show that Charlie Kirk

was killed by Israel

and I do think until

more information comes out, I don't think

we should jump to conclusions.

But why jump to conclusions that I killed

them then? That's the strange thing.

I don't think he actually

I think he generally

believes that.

Well, he claims that's what he believes.

I think it's a possibility

that somebody on your server may have done.

Okay, but you friends a server didn't it?

Why is it a possibility that Israel did it then?

Because he says that's even ridiculous.

He's not going to even entertain it because it's ridiculous.

So why is he entertaining something that is much less probable than Israel doing it based on the weight of evidence?

I think it's way less probable that that happened, that someone left this training or something was in your server.

That's where...

And that's why you cleanse that.

I don't think that's less...

There's a divergence about our pulse on reality.

You think the evidence weighs more in terms of probability that this person

was in my Discord server

than the assassination

being connected to Israel.

For one of the things,

there's not only no evidence at all, like there's zero.

And that's not true for

the Israel angle. There is some

circumstantial pointers that

suggest it could be possible.

There's no such equivalent in the

argument that he was in my server.

And then second of all,

motive, profile,

don't even add up.

My movement is not one of

passionate

about transgender rights.

Okay? It doesn't even make sense.

Yeah, well, I've seen more, I've seen more transgender tanky

than I've seen transgender workers, but that's what I've seen.

First of all, first of all, I think it's way more probable that a guy like...

I would probably disagree with that, but even on

the face of it, I'm not just a

tankie. I represent something very

specific. They call me,

they call us, quote unquote, maga

communists, they call us whatever. We are

regarded as mainly socially conservative that's the

perception uh okay but you're connected to other tankies who are you know they're fine with this

transgender stuff or they don't they think it's horrible how they're discriminated

connected with a single tankie who thinks it's okay to kill people for being bigoted towards transgender.

No, I agree, but there are other people who are very pro-transgender or pro.

They think it's horrible how they've been discriminated or something

was the guy who got caught

like with the spanking or something

Caleb was his name? Yeah I don't

even think Caleb cares about this to be

honest I mean he's got weird

private ediosyncras so do Groyper's by the way that's what I was going to about this, to be honest. I mean, he's got weird, private,

ediosyncras,

so do Groyper's,

by the way.

That's what I was going to say,

but I don't even think he cares.

I mean,

I don't like him at all,

but I'm not a liar.

So in any case...

Your friends are the Lord?

I wouldn't say I was friends.

I would say that, uh, me and Jackson consider ourselves political allies of him for, for maybe a year or two.

And then, uh...

You shut him without, shutting them out a couple of times. Yeah,

that's what you do with people

that you consider,

you know,

political allies.

Sure,

but you wouldn't consider Nick

a political ally.

You would consider a guy

who's most strange genders

are political ally.

And that's kind of the point. There's more, I would transgender is a political ally. And that's kind of the point.

There's more overlap between

Tankies, communists, leftists,

and trainees than there are

you know, white-wing,

you're-capitalists or conservative or anything like that.

I've never had a political

ally who thinks it's acceptable to kill people over

transgenderism.

I didn't say that.

I didn't say that.

But we're talking about what's probable, right?

We're talking about what's the probability

of this killer being connected to someone in your server or just being your server.

So by connection, you don't mean by Israel?

I think the former is way more likely.

The probability of them being a part of my movement and a supporter of mine is zero,

okay?

The probability of...

I first you say it up.

No, it's zero.

It's zero.

If, for example,

they...

So how did you take down the server?

I didn't take down the server. That's the thing? I didn't take down the server.

That's the thing. I didn't take it down.

General chat

was untouched

for two full days, okay?

After the assassination.

Okay? After two days,

I keep repeating myself. It's incredible. After two days, I keep repeating myself. It's incredible.

After two days, I reset General Chat, I removed all content from the General Chat channel to remove any graphic depictions of the event, any discussions about the event,

even if it's shock and horror,

any graphic representations,

discussions, or defictions about violence

is banned. It doesn't matter what the

But don't you see that a community

like that, who are glorifying that type

of stuff? I mean, there's no

Groypers open to glorifying this, and we're not

any big communities where they were spanning

they had to cleanse the server or something.

Nothing like this happened with Gorypers,

and people are blaming the Groypers.

First of all, you're wrong. Second of all,

what community

was celebrating or glorifying anything?

Not mine.

Well, I thought that's what you said.

Didn't you say that they were like

sending all those graphic videos

They were sharing embedded tweets of the footage sending all those graphic videos and stuff for Charlie Cope.

Embedded tweets

of the footage

of Kirk

getting shot in the neck.

Okay.

So are you denying

that there are a lot of

leftists, but in particular

tankies and stuff, really anti-Israel

tankies and stuff, who were saying that

Charlie Kirk deserted because he was

pro-Israel or whatever.

Possibly, but first of all, it

wasn't our community. Second of

all, the more important

question is, what's the probability someone like Tyler Robinson was part of my community or in my Discord?

Well, it's next to zero compared to the probability that there's Israeli involvement in Kirk's assassination.

Okay, to be fair, I don't know a lot about your community, but what I didn't know is that there was something about cleansing this road or taking it down or something like that. Maybe that's wrong, but that's what I heard.

There was a simple reset of the general chat, which is something done regularly.

And there's some disgusting fat fuck sitting and snickering and laughing that I'm even talking about this

who made up this lie

okay who took

an announcement of me saying

all discussion and talk about this event

is banned because

we follow the TOS

the terms of service.

No violent anything.

It doesn't mean people are supporting it.

Even if you're expressing shock, it doesn't matter.

We don't want it to be talked about at all, right?

And they said, oh, they're concealing the evidence because Robinson was in the server.

And it's like, first of all, how could I conceal evidence from the FBI on anything for Discord?

That's nonsense.

Second of all,

for a full two days,

General Chat was untouched.

The Discord's not too competent.

I think they're giving them more credit

than they deserve.

Nonetheless, Groypers were raiding my server

for two days, and general chat was untouched.

Two full days, okay?

Okay, but just saying you couldn't hide anything from Discord.

I mean, didn't they falsely report that they didn't have any chat

logs and then money i want to explain reality to you okay the fbi already has the discord

logs and chats tyler robinson uh yes they do they already have it they already. They already have it. They already have it. Okay, they have everything.

Orchan, which is the originator of this made-up claim, they said Friday that the FBI any minute now is going to

release evidence

of the ACP

and me and

my server.

Okay,

it's been a week

and nothing's

happened.

So we're still

waiting.

Okay.

Well,

yeah,

as I said,

I don't think

Nick genuinely

believes that.

I just think

it's a reaction.

I'm glad you admit that.

If he doesn't believe it and he says he believes it, it means he's a liar.

So why is he lying?

My interpretation for why he's lying is that he's a shill.

Well, I think it's, well, I don't agree with that interpretation.

I didn't say, you can call him a liar. I think it's, well, I don't agree with that interpretation. I didn't say,

you can call him a liar. I think it's more so just being hyperbolic or saying

something because he thinks the reaction

to the Charlie Kirk death, it's just ridiculous.

Listen, falsely accusing

people of killing Charlie Kirk

is not hyperbole.

It's actually a pretty serious

thing to do, which he's going to realize

how serious it is.

It's not hyperbole.

I don't think Jackson Hinkle actually believes Nick

is gay or something. I don't think he actually believes.

I think he actually believes. I think he's just saying that to be

hate for a... No, no, no, he really does.

I mean, he actually does.

All right.

Okay.

I don't know you.

I don't know any of you, but...

I can vouch and say he really sincerely does believe that.

It just seems like a vindictive tirade because, I mean, at least on Jackson's behalf, because he's jealous maybe of Nick Francis's reach.

Yeah, but, but the ink, all Jackson did to piss off this Fuentes guy is we were in a space and talking about Oliver Anthony or something.

And someone was like, well, Nick Flintus and Jackson is like, well, I don't care what that Cadboy thinks or something.

And that's, and he never talked.

Ever since then, Nick has been ankle-biting Jackson,

not the reverse.

Well, I think there's...

It's Nick Fuentes.

It's been back and forth.

Nick Fuent...

Yeah, but Jackson just did one thing

and left it at that.

Ever since then, Nick Fuentes has been following us and ankle bikes on.

Jackson didn't just do one thing.

It's constantly they replied each other all the time.

I've seen long threads.

But let's say after they're back and forth for the first time,

okay, six months will pass. Who starts?

Who starts it? Nick Fuentes starts it. Six months will

pass. Nick Fuentes again.

There's going to be an interaction.

We are not the ones who

keep up and follow Nick Fuentes.

He, when we launched our party, Nick Fuentes. He, when

we launched our party, Nick Fuentes came after

it. It's like every time there's a major thing

we are involved in, he comes out of the

woodwork. Jackson goes to Yemen.

Nick Fuentes immediately comes out of the

woodwork to

talk shit about Jackson.

We ignore this guy and he comes after us consistently.

Okay.

So this is the record.

I mean, maybe Jackson hurt his feelings or something in a Twitter space one time.

But after that

he, Nick Fuentes is nothing to us

okay? And that's what bothers him.

We don't care about this kid ultimately.

Really? No, we don't. I mean, you're on here

on your, you're on your,

I'm on here, Mr. Fentz's

a close to his real show. Yeah,

I'm on here.

You're right.

And why am I doing it?

Because he accused me of killing Charlie Kirk.

That's pretty fucking crazy.

Okay.

The guy who has 60,000 concurrent live claimed that I killed Charlie Kirk.

Yeah, I think that's a pretty serious accusation.

Sure, but you can't say that you don't care about him.

We don't fundamentally

care about him in terms of... There's obviously

some... There's obviously some...

Can you listen to reason for one second?

I understand what you're saying as I don't agree.

If Nick Fuentes keeps our

name out of his mouth, we don't care

about him. He's irrelevant to us.

We only ever mention him or talk about him

because he's doing that about us.

Our strategy and our movement is not founded or predicated upon any special interest or fascination with Nick Fuentes.

We think he's on nothing.

But because he attacks us, we

attack him.

That's where it begins and ends.

So when I say we don't care about him,

it doesn't mean we don't regard him

or we're not considerate of the fact

that he's our enemy. It's

that we do not

we do not see him

as a serious or important

political actor in and of itself

but I think it is an escalation

okay you disconnected again and that wasn't me but um But I think it is an escalation.

Okay, you disconnected again, and that wasn't me. But I don't think there's much more that can be said about this.

So, that's it

so that's it and I'll see you guys, hopefully this weekend.

By the way, this space is not recorded.

You want to watch the full thing?

Kick.com slash infrared.

That's where you go.

And, yeah.

Hey, that's that.

Nothing more can be said.

For now, for tonight.

Uh, yeah.

I mean,

the Kirk assassination,

it's going to have

political consequences,

and we're going to be covering it.

We're going to be talking

about all the people involved,

all the bad faith actors,

all the shills,

all the sellouts,

you know,

and hey,

we're even saying, if people are trying to

persecute Hassan Piker over this, we're against it. Because we defend the Constitution.

Why? Because we're the ones who put America first, not Nick Fuentes.

Putting America first, not Nick Fuentes. Putting America

first means

defending the constitutional liberties

we have

versus

Mossad and Netanyahu.

That means Netanyahu That means

Natanyahu doesn't get to override our

Constitution. You want to

change our Constitution? It has to be

done in a way where the American people

are in the driver's seat and have control.

That's not what's going on right now.

He's trying to give all the control

to Netanyahu.

And they're saying burn the Constitution.

So do I have to like Hassan Piker personally?

It doesn't matter what you think of him personally.

If he is unconstitutionally persecuted for his free speech, there goes our Constitution.

You've gained a precedent that can be used against any American.

Even the non-brown ones, by the way.

That is a very, by the way.

That is a very, very simple thing. You don't care how much you hate

Hassan Piker. I don't care

how much you resent him

and you are annoyed by him.

All that matters is the formality of it, okay?

He's formally an American citizen.

Formally speaking, we have no constitutional framework in which he can be persecuted

without a precedent being set in which Netanyahu can do it to fucking anyone,

in which Mossad and Israel can do it to fucking anyone.

You want to give APEC a dictatorship over this country?

Then call for Hassan Pikesers persecution

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Alright we're just going to end it there

We're just going to wrap it up there

All right guys we're wrapping up the stream

next stream I do will probably be in real

life, but it'll be this weekend.

All right, guys.

I'll see you later.

You know, and

look at this. I put flintes in my stream title

look this kid spent his whole career ankle biting charlie kirk and all these people

whenever jackson had more clout than him he would not shut the fuck up about him you know

and i i have kept to my own so consistently.

You got to ask, why am I now talking about this kid like this?

Because, well, hey, he won't fuck off.

So we're going to crush him proverbially.

We are going to go on the offensive in the information battle space.

What can I say, you know?

The kid was asking for it Nick Fuentes

Amirio what's up

it's like Stalin

Stalin wanted to keep to his own

he

he didn't care about Germany

taking Germany or something

he just wanted to focus on

Soviet

sphere you know and

what Hitler crossed the fucking line

and it was the last line Hitler ever crossed

was fucking with Stalin, you know?

That's what we're dealing with.

Now frogs are on the menu

and gorillas are hungry.

This is what it's come to and it's only gonna increase and get more and more intense and no i'm not going to jail and no I'm not being deported.

It's only going to get worse and worse and worse. For all those who are so triggered by the truth by my existence you know it's going to get worse for you because you will be hearing more of me.

And I will grow.

I mean, I, and snap on my fingers, I can grow as big as I want to, actually.

I'm not even putting in full effort.

I mean, I stream three times a week.

You want me to tap in fully back in the ring?

You want to see what it looks like for me to get back into the spotlight, I can do it.

No problem.

I prefer not to be there, by the way, because I like to write and I like to read and I like to think.

And I like, but I have no issue, frankly, being the spotlight, frankly.

I can do it.

No problem.

Chancellor with the 10, what's going on?

You know, you don't fuck with a Stalin. You should learn from Hitler's mistake. Why fuck with me?

It's so stupid.

It's so stupid.

It's so fucking stupid.

You're going to jail.

No, I'm not.

It's just not.

I mean, at least not in relation to this maybe if they

change laws or something and i i have committed no crimes okay so um yeah i mean you're

everyone who disagrees with us is going to jail. Okay, buddy. You're talking about a civil war at that point. If they just throw away the Constitution and say anyone who's left leaning or something is going to jail, I mean, fuck, that's not going to just happen without issue.

That's a crisis.

That's a national crisis.

Are you any I hear anything, but he's defending destroying the first amendment for Palantier.

Of course he is.

Of course he is.

Everyone can see that.

Everyone can see that.

And, uh... Hmm...

What else did I want to say? For us, war is not a matter of emotions, you know, political information war.

You're just going to deport you. No, you're not.

I'm here to stay.

And I'm just going to become more and more relevant.

And and I'm just going to become more and more relevant. And is that what I need to do, guys?

Do I just need to become very relevant?

Is that what I need to do?

I have no issue with that.

I can do that.

I'm a person who's hard to ignore, you know?

That's the thing.

I'm a little bit hard to ignore.

Why?

Because I just spit facts.

Because I wasn't raised by 4chan.

4chan doesn't teach me how to think, okay?

I don't,

I don't have this anonymous audience that controls

me.

I'm a self-taught

thinker.

And I know what I'm fucking doing.

Anyway, guys,

I'll see you next stream.

I'll see you next stream.

Bye-bye.