INTERVIEW WITH POLISH COMMUNIST [2021-11-29] 🚀 Infrared Content Catalog

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and k i'm going to have a rule don't fuck and his me off again keep talking about the fucking views and i'm going abanding you forever you're not ging never getting a s the bok ofp and don't make a start on a bad fuck and start

matter of fact everyone who did that you're not watching the street

so where you're not typing in adday let me see all the people who did that this guy yeah come back tomorrow this guy come back tomorrow this guy come back tomorrow next ones a firm stupid

i diet missed end the stream early yesterday and you're the first thing buk of do is beside the same shit focus one your own fucket shit i focus on my shitk

you have one job in this jat you one job stop pitching and don't buckt do my job for me that's the only two bucking things you have to do don't pitch of my chat if you feel like pitching plicks another fuck

wach someone else second thing try to do my bumky job and start you own bumky ja see how the works for otherwise s the buck up i think we do need to have another bird honestly it i don't know what's going on the full wind it's the wintertime we're entering december i think

we need another fucking birds lo thatin the buckt herd a little beach weeklys in my fufky jak pus a fuck of little weekly those beaches in my jack pus a douty little beach thank you maveryleppreciate thank you marale

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come off min stand oh don't worry we're going to talk about buking peter wiley we're going to be talking about peter wiley today don't worry about that yeah that's on the itinerary to we are going to be talking about the peter while

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i'm going to talk about peter wiley right now i'm a talk about it right now and i'm going to probably talk about it later to when other people get here we're going to talk about it now as well

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so this is the thing that i'm not going to tolerate anymore right i used to be really lenient and lax about this sh but now you have to understand i'm going to state of war against a lot of people and against a lot a lot of crowds on the fok and internet and i'm still fighting an uphill battle right i'm still fighting an uphill fuck and battle to define correctly define

thank you joe was on

g shoud the bok up for a second i'm fighting an uphill battle and i'm still struggling to correctly define my own image on the falkan internet because i'm being defined incorrect ways outright false ways and a big person who's contributed to that is none other thean peter beach

why peter whiy we if you actually cataloge the history of my fucking drama and my problems on the falking internet it's been peter wiley uploading fucking bad optic videos about me out of context shit to me and w and a lot of you i get it oh it's all you good humor whatever it's all fun yeah for us it's all good light

fun but my enemies take it seriously and they use it as ammunition against me a serious ways like it's a serious thing i'll give you an example of that when i went on to be on a show we all thought that was lighthearted it wasn't serious at all right well guess what my enemies took it seriously as you saw this month on twitter so you think

when you give them bad ammunition they take it seriously and they use it as an excuse and word it actually starts to piss me off and i'm going to start getting serious about it they use it as an excuse to discredit our ideas right because i'm a silly guy why do exclusively upose things that make me look bad the upds things that make me look silly and bad and whatever

he never uploads any of the things that make me look good right you don't upload the things that make me look good you only upload the things that make me look bad i get it it is and communities like making fun of their streamers well you better do that internally because when you're uploading these focking you do videos are enemies take it seriously and they use it as an excuse to discredit us and discredit me

yeat the new people that have a monopoly now black lenon talent and others those are my people i don't but this fuck and whilely guy he is only ever fugk me over he only uploads shit that makes me look bad and worst i

you want to mention this par remember my destiny debate while i was on balking vacation in austin he uploaded immediately you p peter why you a little int lit met for that our to only as telve welve sb right now we expected fifty k by now on the youtube which has been growing as we

exuspected but you do bes not so for him to fuck and steal our you tb shuit you wilely yeah b you whiyly he only ever upload shit to make me look bad in front of enemies and they take it seriously it's not like our community who don't take it seriously they actually take it seriously

the they take this shit out of context

it's not just that i look bad infrared as a whole does our ideas do and we just become discredited right is that what you guys want is that what you guys want you want widly to fuck and win so our goal to take over c pus and our goal to represent a new alternative a new type of left in the west you want all that should be discredited what fuk and you it for

and i listen i already playing his latest video he released the bot of me i'm going i have a bad mood and shit you think i need all these falking people calling and doing their oarns

psychology and give it i wt look a the comments you should be grateful you were doing nothing for forty minutes it shuld the fok p bean this is one a f stream your fokt your fokt said that a fucking you to comment section little and you know what little fukt i'm going to falk and remember that this is every single one of the little pusses to say hi

someone title why do you expect to have a lot of youviewers to i'll tell you why you ttle stupid because the son will start the five minute intro and have ten thousand viewers so that's what we're up against right now so yeah i got to be bucking competitive don't and hold me to the standard of you yous and you hold me to the standard of the beast

streamers that i'm competing with going only to your pucking bms standard doms you don't know what i'm fucking up against

i'm not here to be your friends i'm i've already told you that i'm not i'm here to overtake all of my political enemies on which and i you do that's what i'm fucking you for has a been a miscommunication or misunderstanding because i've never lied to you about that im and you're to be in your cozy little friend circle and be your fucking friend

to know you you don't know me either you know this is going to sound arrogant but it's the truth and you knoweed start bukt understanding ninety nine percent of my problems on the internet come from the shit dumb fox who hold me to their own standard and they think i'm equal with them no

re not equals if you're watching us we're not equals all of my haters see the hate ony because they think that they could be me they go this ti guy whit me more popular than me whit people aret inan me because you're an aly stupid that's why we are not

equals we are not equals not love not in breks not entertained about you and not in salen we are not equals the minute you fuk and exccept that the minute you're going to save a lot of your fucking time you little seething hating little seeding hating little fufky you little bach

here on now everything wilely poads i'm claiming i'm striking peter wiley has no permission no permission infrared you're

m and if you can't you're a for all my walking haters on the internet for all my haters on the internet every one of you haters every single one of you haters whatever website you're on whatever you're doing every single one of my frell time haters i want you to know you bitch you haveways been a bitch because you've never mustered the courage to face me like a

man in any capacity yous a bich never forget your bach every feeling of insecurity self doubt you will ever have in your life is directly because of me i on your manhood your manhood is owned by me i have it locked in a box and i threw away the fucking key

you're never getting it back

never never in your whole life you're never getting you back

christabella new score symbols don't need it

thanks christopher i don't know the fuck you are why you got bann

and issue an appeal but you know what in my chat it's a lot more than five dollars to get on band in my chack i'm going to be honest don't bucking give me your moll refund you don't give me your bucking money to met on band you

going to be a lot more than five to do that

you got bann in my chat you must have done something really fuck and bad wasting my fuck and time

what happened i peter what didn't happen to peter what didn't happen to peter im issuing a season discet thiss the peter whiley he

only upload negative shit of he only uploads ammunition from my enemies to make me look bad he never uploads anything that makes me look good only bad you had you have people sucking boss detiny hasad they suck their cop and a clip channels making am look like demi gods and lea be goodal toward me and lea uplad both the

that good he only upd the badll you think it's a u little joke only for our community it's not my enemies see that and they use it as ammunition to bother me i my god ho is in a bad mood that's what i need in my life right you know whiy you stuck

god damn piece of shit you god damn buckt hass all low life bad ass sitting in your mom's basement we all know why thes a fat box sitting in his mom's bucking basement uploading fuck and shit out of context on his um ass fuck in default profile picture buk and channel

fucking content lea stealing my fucking shit stealing my fucking you to destiny fucking debate i pay people to edit my shit why din't just steal it from

and i believe a bod specifically because i don't want to be talking bothered by it and you upload it anyway the god pspect thed perspect i'm going to make sure the only infrared bod

clip channels are my people he've going on forward here and now black lenen talent that other guy forgot ll to lo to an extent you all are the ones who are going to have the monopoly why he done why walking doe and especially n's done because he saw the word out that i put take that fucking video down wiley and he still refused

why he's done why done why we done why we' done he has no permission to pload anything anything i post on fuking which peter while he has no permission permission denied why do we test my patientce because heink

you can joke around if he i'm going to listen to you have i'm going to keep it out ut know why the ttle b i'ming to take you buk and channel down how about that wy i already gave you one strike i filed to remove that one video if i do i cod pick any other two videos i want to remove and your channel will be terminated do't make me go there while we all terminate your bok

channel so all it takes is troo more strikes and i be to pick any video of might chos in a strike

yeat there's a reactionary reco channel that puts my shin in a positive light

believe that get a load of that get a loat of them apples there's reactionaries who are talking sympathetic to me but why he's got to be a little bitch and go against me

if you're watching this right now onsubscribe from peter wileys jan unsubscribe from his channel this dude has been given so many fucking chances to learn his fucky lesson unsubscribe f peter wiley right the falk now and both subscribe to black len

unsubscribe to wiley go subscribe to black lenen sick a fucking peter wiley is is a the home call my fucking haters in pitchers and winers to congregate o need that shit yeah talent inside to

that me that me

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we're going to be interviewing a polish communist in thirty minutes we're going to be interviewing or he's going to be interviewing me

my wearing i wineer no i'm not my spiritual state of mind don't fuck and understand my eyes darken when i'm in a certain state of mind

but the buck is mat warrior i don't know what the buck that is

we have we have we we have

shut the farck up

god

just shut the focker

i used to think

i'm going to tolerate peter wyle because i need a neutral place that's not biased but now i realize it is it's going to be biased either way that mother foker whilely he n he guas likelights me into thinking this is how i look the only upload shit that makes me look bad he never uploads our glory what glory has he

ever uploaded what things that have made me look good as you ever uploaded nothingse negative energy there's two directions you go in public with infrared you're boosting me or you're against me i don't give a fuk what the context is you're not a free thinking independent individual who are a member of the b army

or you're a fucking enemy you know not some fuked free thinking individual you don't beitch now when we're up against hasan now when we're up against boss now when we're up against destiny you stay in live you act as a foking army or you get the fuck out want to be a free individual they get the fuck out because you're not going to have bunch of free individuals taken on these

talking which superpowers mas you stay in formation you stay in line and you keep your criticism to yourself you little critical ps you're going to be critical when we're up against the fuking enemies fk you think i got heres

by being open to everyone no we're not open to everyone this is a falcan army this is a place of discipline you better fuck and follow the rules and say in line or you're getting a fark out i don't care if i fel the herd back to one hundred viewers at this point i don't care a hundred reliable strong gerrillas is better to me than a bunch

me andering fucking cowards who don't understand that we're facing an uphill battle for fok sake i only have fourteen thousand followers right now look at the impact i've created the ripple effect

and i'm only at fourteen thousand followers

what does that tell you

what does that tell you it tells you we have to remain in compact formation and we still have a lot of fucking work to do before we start creating those feedback loops that are going to lead to organic growth we don't have organic growth right now we don't

have an automated feedback lop thats and growing me from nothing we are growing because we're an army that's the only reason we have ever grown ever because worre army organic runaway feedback loops have not taken in effect yet

the rison of the mo all come tell me show a f where the gathering is to be in the ol the river right to well known to you and me one more more for stignal chken whistle a marching ch which a

any di sent is going to be birds you fucking coward critical little bits you're being critical when we're already focking surrounded from all sides so fy independent w you you fucking coward thank you j

sation through the night and he's the robin aor the coming morning light mormors passl like the and she's a lonely go on thes and lads forre flashion the rason the moon the roison the moon the raising of

no i'm murrio that's fine pter wiley alone has no permission to upload everyone else can upoad

peter wiley has no permission thank you latleate i do not give meeter permission black lenin got that permission allthers got that permission while we don't got that permission

while we don't got my permission simple as that it says simple as that

it's not rocket science it's not crazy math it's not a crazy formula it's literally as simple as that

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destroy dissenters who virtue signal their independence we don't need we don't have time or tolerance

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the latest r is durham video as can can someone go through the durham and find all that the us so you could time stamp this

there is sorrow in me heart old me old hosgun sin we lately had a heart told me old holdgun in ireland's day of need i have proved a friend indeed when you made the bullet speed o me old hogun

i was glad when you were near o me old hod gon for the foll man that i fear o me old hold gon when your bark bitter fight for the saxon course to fly and he didn't stop to fight o me old hold go

when you know our cock and symbol now you understand this is our symbol i want to show you something because apparently this is being disputed

look at this walking guy you're not in our party and are in an organization that is opposed to our party don't use our symbol for fantasy militarism your symbol you mean the

symbol that i lone repopularize you mean the symbol that is been associated with infrared so as long as infreds been here your symbol your symbol which i re popularized single handedly no bitch that's our symble that's our symbol matter of fact

everybody put that symbol in their banner picture on twitter or put it in your profile picture

that's our symbol you wp that symbol you wp it infrared

that's our symbol

you rep that symbol you rep an infrared and i looked it up and thank god you know that symbols creative commons

it's a creative common symbol

which means

they don't got no copyrights that's our symbol now you don't got that copyright you have copyright i think on the ugly version the ugly dogs did version let me show you the ugly one let me show you the ugly version to look at this ugly balking hamp

this is the one you have you have this one we don't want that we don't want this fucking tamp on we don't want the sh whatever the fuk that is

ah you that's not our symbol

onand show

this is ugly look a ut scott wo this not even sharp this is the most

this is the most tame sickle i've ever seen this sickle literally looks like a fuking bildo it looks like a curb bild it's not even sharp there's nothing fearsome about it the's nothing fierce and this this literally looks like a buck and fruit loop to a buck is this it looks like a

a cookie or some shit you can eat it like these are whites that they ate what an ugly symbol it's not our symbol

i'll show you ours now this now this

now this now this is our symbol this is our symbol it is our symbol you understand

in this ca for sake and ristllengs symbols don't need t doll ar is weak too

thank you christ of all now this is our simple we used to have it as an a mode but someone reported the a mode even though dylan burnsg has a fugking bite in the mot yeah sh thgh apparently that's fine but we can't have this whatever

ter but this is our symbol for

from the go twenty the t twenty eight

five forty four ok let me actually get that note that

you ty twenty eight fve five twenty four you what you mean give or take can you actually get the exact one beause we a what you mean give or take i don't like that give or take u give or take my channel give band so i don't know what you talk about give or take you got to get something more exact

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many young men are twenty said goodby on the day from break until the sun was high many young men are twenty said goodby we the factories

farms and running down the call to arms all the lasts turn their heads to many young men are twenty said good last night i hed my down breaks my heart to s you beter on my love for maybe ile

it's trying so hard they're trying so hard they're trying so hard you know how hard these people try to make me look bad you know how fucking you know how hard the t

to make you look bad it's so crazy this trying the're even trying to say i'm ugly that's how much n coping that's ho mus trying to tdrack down my success and you know what i am i'm an optical illusion and there's two as i can take the's

the path of glory and the path of ugly and if you let them win then all you have to is change your perspective and what do you know i've become ugly understand i came from the shadows i came from the shadow this is what you guys don't falk and understand right bee you're fuking stupid because your sheep

yes you are sheep remember i want you to wake up and look in the mirror and say i am a sheep i am a sheep because you are one you have a sheep brain

and i'm going to explain to your disgusting shep brain to you right now

i'm going to explain to you your pathetic weak minded sheep brain to you right now you make judgments that you think are objectives that are actually based on arbitrary social convention so let's say for example let's say has

gets to twenty k average views super huge superviral right then there is no dispute you will just be like oh my god i can't believe haws has been lawlessly jack this whole time slawlessly beautiful this whole time but let's say i fail and get smothered into irrelevance you're going to be like oh

ugly but you thing it was objective and it's not undertands you have sheep brain it's like it's like a fight right cod be versus mcgregor you think mcgregors a lion until he loses then you're like oh he was alays a little bit you know he was a little lost

before then you didn't know before then you thought maybe the go understand you sheep you think you know the truth all along wen what you think is defined by arbitrary shit so that's why we are waging an in for war and in public every single runing has to suck my ck in public

that's why it's not because i need it i don't fuk i don't need it mying bind needs itss fucking be neutral be biased me we are fighting and ill battle you don't have any room for i mean it ctic com know you must

be my brain was soldiers that's why thiss upill battle object does not exist there's no perspective there's no objective reality it is all in information w you fight for ind or you surrender and metaphorically die ined bridge

like a little understand there's no objective neutral ground you fight for infrared or you surrender simple as that there's no objective anything you know when it comes to my looks there's no objective anything if people say hauss is short you have to go and say no is seven feet tall if people say

has looking small you have say no has is bigger than the fucking arnold you have to faking go out you be is biased as fking possible because this is an information war and they're not being unbiased either

they're trying to drag me down

all the dishonesty or dirty tricks you could falking imagine so you you have to push me up using the same level of dishonesty because there's no truth there's no objectivity here it's all of falking in for war if you are if you are behind infrared then in public you have to reiin raise upon me you have to praise me and speak me

you have to speak me up so fucking i that people will think i'm a fucking demmi god understand but remember you umb fuking

it and that is what you've beenk sheepmss i fucking represent you if you let them tear my image down you fuking letting your own piece of your own soul being torn down

i am your fucking juggernaut who reign for and brantone on our idiological enemies o buking tap out like a bitch and start getting cold feet i don't know about has any more no you do know about has to defend me and venerate

and praise me no matter the context even if you feel that i'm being cringed and i'm in the wrong you defend me wonderstand thank you was a because this is not a level playing field my enemies are not being fair why are you being fair why are you being fair when my enemies aren't fair you're going to be fair why my enemies aren't fair

and you're being fair you're foking cok you're literally a cook if someone's being dirty and you're being fair you're basically giving it to

them and we're going to enter this this stream yard we're going to talk to the polis guy right now

but guys remember

remember

this is not a fair game

this is not a fair level

playing field

you gott to be an infrared super soldier

you gotta be an infrared

propaganda super soldier everywhere you fuck and go you praise me

because you're this is some ridor should you understand

you don't casually hitch along infrared this is a fucking clt

this is a falking army

and you're either near

and against everybody

or you're nowhere

you stand with me in my war against the word

ya i'm not

doing this stream yardshit

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mhm ya

hallo

hey what's up give me one moment

okay h

all right

sorry about this

all right how are you

good it's good to see you

you too

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can i make life do you want to ask me something before

uh no it's good you can go li i'm i also want to let you know that i'm i'm also live right now on uh twitch

ah it's good so hello to comrades from your

so hello today we will speak with commrad from usa commrad hous

who make a youtube channel

infrat

hello comrade

and maybe i will i watch some of on of your videos

and um

i i so did

sometimes or often you

speak about the socialist bloc

especially about the soviet union and the east germany

but do you know the history of polish communist move

i don't i'm not very familiar with the history of the movement i just have a brief familiarity with the

some details of uh the polish communist uh

state history throughout the cold war leading to the eighties and swamp

yes because the

and i wanted to start the discussion from this subject because

and i think that for you and for

the conversation which is now in american youtube

and that

question of the communis and the patriotism

and also your discussion with jason unrou

the i think that the

the he storted over there

communist movement in poland is very interesting

so

maybe briefly i will say some words about this

so before a second world war we had one party which was a

which was the section of the third international it was communist party of poland

it was

combative party but relatively

small

small party it was delegalized party

and there was a a lot of persecution

but

this party was small because of the sectarian position in the many

in the iny question

for example the members of this party wanted to make poland the

a republic of the soviet union

and it was after poland gain independence and it's not work

in poland

because most of the police workers want it

independent polish state and they preferred the polish

polish way to socialism not to be part of the

of the mm of the soviet union

and mrad stardying he dissolved this part

because of many reason

and it is

another

the conversation widd

communist party was the was dissolved

but in the tame of the second world war there was constructed new parts

a new party which was built by the members of the aansan communist party

but this part you is the name polish workers part

and this party was fighting against the occupation

and this party very quickly became

must part

ust party and it was party who which

after the second world war

build a

socialism

in poland

it so we

in this in this question we have

yeah

to to kind of

of parties one party is sectarian

second party

use this

a patriotic question

and very quickly became a mass party and changed the society

so so

from this perspective

and i think that the discussion which you have for example with jason on rou

the strategy of police workers' party is better than strategy

sectarian strategy of these communis

party

which existed before

but

after the history of poland

it was his story that the cont revolution in the socialist bloc started in poland

and it started in poland because

there is

these the strategy of policeh workers party to organize must movement and take a power

was good to take a power but after when it when

there was a question building socialism

and they

they didn't use marxis story well for example

and they didn't fight with with free catholic church

they they stop the collectivization

and the also there was the this patriotic question

it was good when it was against german

ban but in one nine hundred seventy s and nine hundred eighties

this patriotism started to be something correctionary because it was

i'm to sylvie

so it is something which i wanted to start i don't know what do you think about

so the polish communist patriotism was anti soviet

h no no no in the time of the i the in the time of the second world war it was

against against germans

and gt against nothing

but the problem is that the

police workers party

attacked when you take newspapers of the polish workers party

they attacked

german like a nation

h not nazi like h yeah yeah geology of the

and you know it was the time when poland the

in the time of war there are at leat six million of poles who died in the occupation

and every poll have somebody in the family who was killed by the germans

soap

for building that mass ust movement

this this

easy easy propaganda that we are against against

germans we want to d dependen state and also we want the

we want the social reform

they didn't talk about the communist

this

staling who decided that the

communism in poland don't work well

because

because because for example in the time of the of the existing of communist party of poland

there was all these anti communist propaganda a day accused the member of the cobal communist party of poland that they are there

agent of moscow agent of soviet union

and they didn't want to discuss with this

and the they said yes for us our our homeland is soviet union and we want to make poland the

mm the republic of the soviet union

from for me for for the

political paper may end

politically it was good but it was not something which worked to be min by

mass movements so

for building must movement is better to

to try to

and

listen what is there

what what workers

want and the

there was something that the departy wanted

something and the workers they are not not connection

and it is something that i think that it is

the problem of many many marxist from from internet also maybe my me and and also in the u

in american you tok that

and

one thing di is what is the real

real feelings with these that workers wants today

and

the second to words is the offer of the of the people who for example say

and we need to fight for giving all the american allance to the native americans

h so

maybe from the more perspective it is it is something which is just

man but it will be never something which you organize the workers in the in the usa so

so i think that in this

in this discussion which you may have with jason rout

you you are realitist realist and you are

bigger chance bigger b b bigger chances to

you

a movement

because

from this other perspective

first word ylwayson

it

it's not work

so uh this basic distinction right between uh

the real

real situation and

what's considered ideologically correct or moral

you can actually find beginning with marks and angles even before this mass movement

this distinction is basically the point of materialist dialect

right

ah

if one's morality is at odds with

the real material reality

then one must

ah

one must

rethink what the real implications of one morality is i'll give you an example in the context of marxism lenin is

so with stalin's

his distrust toward other communist parties independent communist parties in general

taking place in other nations

it stems from the distinction created

by the lenin by the bolsheviks right

between the democratic revolution

and the communist revolution

right

now

the democratic revolution

for lenin right was something actually object

it's part of material reality

it's something that happens in the material

it's a realist view of the reality i'd like

the small peasants have a problem with the landowners

i have a problem with aristocracy with

feudalism whatever

and this is the basis for objective democratic revolution so

communists

they can be hands off even and it will still happen somehow right

lenin's theory

is that communists are the best equipped

to lead this revolution this democratic revolution

and so this is why he combined the workers and the peasants the dictatorship of the workers and peasants because for lenin

ah

the bourgeoisie was cannot lead democratic revolution in

in fin

in the russian the russian empire

so up toward the stalin

when stalin was fighting against his own

party bureaucracy when he was in the thirties and wen he assumed power

and even later through the forties

stalin's whole goal was basically to reduce the power of the communist party

and the communist

ideologies and so on

and strengthen the more objective and realist structures of soviet states because

for stalin the state was not just a subjective reality ideology

morality and so on it had an objective

it followed objective laws of history and objective reality so stalin wanted

to reduceed the power of the communist party to a more spiritual guide

of the state he didn't want the state to be synonymous with the

communist party

so uh

i think this is where

this marxist view contrasts with idealism and liberalism and

even fascism

which it's recognition that statehood

and

revolution social revolution

has an objective

the reality right

communists must submit themselves to the laws of social revolution

and cannot dictate the terms of this revolution like

we may arrive at the idea that this is more moral or more ideologically correct

but if it comes at the expense of

the material reality it's not

right now

with regard to stalin's

distrust of the polish communism

i read this in the context of stalin's distrust of h

most importantly of the chinese communist party of mao and so on and so on

and the reason is because for stalling the communist party

was the kind of ultimate spiritual guide

of

it's the highest form of state power

more or less right

and

to possess it's almost like a church sacred kind of church right

if this is being reproduced in poland and he was suspicious of this because

that he did not trust that they would be able to reconcile

the communist party

with this objective national social reality so it

in a sense the

stalin did not trust

other national communist parties or civilizational communist parties

and

because he himself did not fully

he did not fully arrive at a theory about the relationship between the communist party and

the people's democracy were the popular front

he just took it for granted right it was almost like

it was almost like how should i put it

uh

it's almost like a prohibited reality like we have yes the soviet communist party but

its origins are too sacred and mysterious to be

directly reproduced in other countries so

we will guide the world's revolution in moscow and

you will

in other countries you instead of arriving at your own independent communist party

you will just obey the objective social laws of history of the democratic

a revolution

moraless

and but

i think that

there was

there wasn't one stalling

the you have one starting in one nine hundred thirty s

who who are the in the charge of the soviet union

and this problem which existed in the communist party of poland existed in other sections of the comm of the third international

and in the time of the second world war

h

that that

the

soviet union and the companies from the

the third international they decided that this strategy

that failed

failed because in every european countries the the fascism take power

and the these communist parties were very very weak

so

so we have one strategy in on nine hundred thirty

where the communist parties have to

the obeyed the communist party of the soviet union and make

exactly the same thing we lack in the soviet union

but the strategy in the one nine hundred forty four ninetunen forour

five

is different

this strategy

for the policeworkers' party was different

the that

there are in the leadership of this police workers party there are the communist

who

onant to in every article makes ctation of stalin and stalin say no

did don't do this

don't do this because if you all the time youill say you are stalinist you support soviet union you want collectivisation

you need to be

be party which is based in your culture in your in your

in your country

because it will be better to build mss movement and popularity for fort

of

so

so there is one strategy

before the second world war and the creation of the of the countries like like poland czechoslovakia etca

is different

and the

it's my remark

uh

so what's what was different after the second world war

dead

in the

because

there all the europe was occupied by the nazis

and because

there was

m

collaboration of the allies

in the in the occupied zone

the polish buge was the polish a aristocracy they collaborated with the with the nazis

and the the the reality of the occupation was was antiworkers so

all the trade unions were where

delegalized if you are fighting against your your brugois

and that

germans quick can kill you

it so

it was very easy

to make movement which was in one side

it was the liberation of the nation

and on the other side it was the movement to who we

to expropriate the bourgeoisie and the aristocracy

and and the

because

it it was something common to all these all these eastern europe countries

it was very fun

easy

to build mars movement or the working people and say

all these b all these h

people who are in the charge nazis and the collaborators from the polish bourgeoisie

we have to kick them out and build socialism

e is so erh

the difference

the biggest difference is that

in the time of the war they didn't make citation from hegel or marx or something like this

the the there

the agitation was very very easy

they are the traitors they are the capitalist nazis we have to fight with them

that's all

and

and before the strategy of the communist party of poland

it was the normal strategy of communies who tried to make all this mark

propaganda education

teach about the what is the marxist economy

stduphfie

so uh

just to simplify it's basically that

the revolution

had an objective basis not subject

ideological basis objective basis

in the situation

but my theory my my m

interpretation of marxism leninism

is that in a sense

all social revolution whether in a period of wartime occupation by a foreign power or not

must be patriotic

because

mm

the objecti of social revolution which is the contradiction and antagonism between establishments

aristocrats landowners and i

basically social parasites right

and the small proprietor peasantry small petit buz wasi democratic petit b waszi as lenin put it

a that is an objective revolution that's not

that does not need to be initiated through proletarian consciousness

you don't need proletarian consciousness to have populism

so to speak right

populism will be there

so if the communists are not the ones leading

making sense of the populism

then

someone else will

fascist will far right will and so on and so on

but the populism

so to speak right which is a contradiction between the countryside

the national basis if you will

and this aristocrats and uh

establishment

that's a contradiction that will be there

regardless of the

i ideology is an objective contradiction

so

that's why during war it's the reason is you me you can interpret

it was easy for communists to seize power after the war

because it was very clear that

the interests of the ruling class

were anti patriotic

right they could clearly show how

to be a true patriot one must be

communist right

but my view is simply that this is holding true even

outside of a situation of wartime occupation

it's a patriotic thing to fight

your establishment

can say

they are removed

from the real basis and roots of the country

a and there

are urbanized and there are two

liberalized and artificial and so on and so on

and that there is an authentic countryside of the people of the soil and so on and so on

mm

that communists must make sense of and to me this is what lenin precisely did in the russian empire right

the rushia at the time was not occupied by a foreign power

and

but

whether the bulsheviks didn't admit this and the run of the reasons they did not admit this was because

the european bourgeois nation state

did not apply to the conditions of russia russian people and russian empire but

the bolsheviks for example

in contrast to the mention mix were seen as more

at patriotic

just in the sense of the

more earthly more related to the russian peasant more russian more a

and more down to earth down to the soil right

ah because they

because they represented the interests the populist interests of the

this was also coming from the

socialist revolutionaries and

their tradition as well but

the left socialist revolutionaries are the ones who joined

join the bulseviks in the first place

after

the seizure of power

but

it's always important

that communists must lead

must be the leading force of

their own civilizations inner objective

striving there's an objective striving

a objective law of social revolution in each and every civilization

to me the

job of communists is to lead this but not

not dictate the terms of the revolution but lead this revolution clarify it because here's where communism becomes important to me

is a

for example dialectics right

if one falls into the error of one sidedness

you will not be able to successfully lead a social revolution in your country trump in the united states

failed

to lead this social revolution against

or sorry the

popular movement against the establishment because

well he was in bed with a ruling class anyway but i

he completely failed he couldn't

he couldn't understand the necessary contradictions

for example

that yes while

the es stablishment must be overthrown there must be some kind of alternative and so on and so on

so to me

communists should make the case that

i

right wing populis and fascists and so on and so on

they're fake patriots because they will fail

they were just like howen

the aftermath of world war two

if you were a kind of

for

fascist or right winger

you're and not a patriot right you're going against the interests of your own people

just like that

the communist should always be the ones to say

others will fail to lead this

revolution

i think that

in this question of russian revolution

you can be right

but you are not right

when you

spoke about leand

i will explain

and you could be right

because the

h

there

february revolution

we could consider like a

revolution

which was

a little bit inspired by the patriotism but because there was all this question that the

monarchy in russia

it was the german monarchy

that that all these her

h nikolai romanov his wife

his wife in way when in the time of the warld

she became one of the leader of the russia

and because of her romance with with rasputin

and the dinnas tea

german dynasty in the russia

be was something very unpopular

and the february revolution it was spontaneous movement

not organized by lenny not organized by men shi but

but it was

spontaneous movement starting by the

strike of the woman's which in a few days became a revolution and

sorrs was

was destroyed

so

in this perspective

where and when

we have russia

russian people

which are ruled ruled by the german dynasty

and there was a lot of

hatred against this dynasty

it could be right

by the the position of lenin

was different

lenin

in the first days of the war

wre he that he said that the position of the russian communist

it

should be that the

our

enemy is the our government

we need to fight that the russia russia in this war will fail

and also these

the split in the in the government of the soviets

in the time of of the treaty of breslisos

because it was the caus it's it's ok because i'm familiar with his

but i know this is

e but

you have misunderstood me

so you're talking about the european inspired nationalism

in russia

a specifically in the context of the first world war of course lennin is opposed to this

as i said the european nation state

does not satisfy the real depth

and basis of

the russian civilization

lenin the february revolution was not the

was

more of an urban dem

bougeoi revolution right it wasn't

it wasn't the revolution of peace land and bread now we talk about peace

which was a context of opposing world war one

a but what about land and bred well land and bred is precisely an appeal to the russian peasant majority

in the russian empire

this is what the february revolution was unable to deliver upon

that february revolution

was not

authentically patriotic

in the sense of the russian patriotism of world war two

because it did not have its basis in the russian people the the real peasants right

it was trying to adopt the foreign model of the european nation state

a nationalism

now lenin did not talk about the deep

the roots of russian civilization and so on and so on because

the language with which to articulate this did not yet exist

but if we believe that stalin was the most faithful student of lenin then

it's very clear that the bolsheviks grounding

in the authentically russian civilization like even before peter the greate

stalin put it stalin viewed peter the great as a westernizer a germanizer he wanted to

a sense return to

ivan ivan the terrible

so stalin did view there that there was a unique grounding in a deeper russian civilization

that's not reducible to european to

nation state

i need to make it very clear because on the internet and on twitter there has been this huge

slander of our position on the question of patriotism

it has nothing to do

with the context of world war one

it during world war one

as the with nationalisms of world war one and this so called patriotism

was as lennin pointed out a war of the imperialist bisi is not just

an ideollogical talking point it was objectively the fact it wasn't a reflection

of some authentic

yeah

reality of the country in these countries it was a war that was started from the top down

right

by the oligarchies and

establishments and so on and so on

so it wasn't like a populist

war in a sense right

ah

so i need to make very clear

yes lenin was against what he called the social patriots and the lvns and so on and so on

but

and during that time that was the context of world war one

right

ah

in terms of the unique realities of the russian civilization

to be against that war

was to be a true

patriot in the stalinist sense of the word

right because

this war

ah

was initiated started in

fought on the terms of

the europeanized russian elites

at the expense of

the broad russian majority

so i think that's why i need to intervene and say thats there's a misunderstanding i of course

lenin was not explicitly some kind of like particularly some kind of patriot

but as we see from the consequences of his unique discovery

specifically through the stalin

stalineers leading to the great patriotic war

it was authentically

a russian marxist

in contrast to the mentionvix and the rest who

we're just europeanized

i think that in the question national question

it was that

learnin whoill learn from starty

that the stalin was the specialist of the national question

and s the in from the russian perspective the it is very important to understand the

difference between the

patriotism of the oupperstination like pauls

like like george jions

like jews and another nations

which

was a part of the russian empire

and the

patriotism of the russia which was and it was the

contradictory

that

i think that lenin

for the that

in the same time the patriotism of of the oppressed nation it is something which is good

and the patriotism of russian it is bed it is rction but that's that's only because and again

during the context of that time

patriotism would mean

war with other countries

right

now lenin was trying to say that when an oppressed nation is fighting a war of liberation

that's different from an inter imperialist war

between oppressor imperialist nations

so that's the point he was trying to make

when i say that

every civilization or nation communists must be patriotic i'm not saying they must advocate for wars

i'm saying lenin's position was authentically patriotic he was against the war

he was fighting for a civil war

all i insist upon is the fact

that the civil war lenin was insisting to be fought against the bousgeoisie the landowners

uh and the

effectively the establishment was an authentically patriotic struggle it was a patriotic struggle

waged on behalf of the authentic

representatives of the russian civilization the russian peasantry the russian people

against an establishment that ceased

to to

cease to authentically represent it

now this much is made very overtly clear with mau

by the time we arrive itt mau mou say ton right

but

it's not yet explicit in lenin

ah

it's

more or less explicit and stald when he said that the task of communists world wide is to be patriots for their country

and

seize the majority when

favor of the majority within their respective countries

but in lenin's time

patriotism as he used it was referring to the national fervor of waging war

or it wasn't referring to

like a populistic uprising

against establishment

that's formulated on patriotic terms

and

it's really as simple as that' it's like

to me

it's about what is the meaning of patriotism patriotism does not mean

mm

doesn't mean

patriotism even within oppressor nations

is how you

accentuate

the contradiction within the oppressor nation itself

to me the alternative to this is a very vain

condescending hypocritical

and bourgeoise moralistic position according to which like

people in the oppressor nation must

have guilt

and must

cease to have pride

and they must kind of

you will never win you will never win

significant

minority

of people

within the oppressor nations if you operate under those terms you have to formulate

that

it is in the authentic interests of the country

which it is already in the united states for example

anti war sentiment is populist even before communists have to say anything right why are we going and fighting why do we have military bases around the world why do we it's not in the interests of our country to be a patriot

means to oppose war

right

in this country

so

that's really my view

we you there must

the marxist dialectical position

comes with the view

and this is my position

that

if you believe your morality is correct

imperialist war is wrong oppression is wrong

a

subjugation of others is wrong

you not only must believe it is wrong you also must believe that an objective material reality

the forces of laws of history

mm

affirm this

there must be a unity between the subjective and the objective

if you if you cannot have the faith that the law of history is behind you and it is in the objective material interests

of a given country

mm

that's harmonious with your morality this leads to subjectivism idealism and

ultimately

liberalism

i think that

disposition

work

when

there are the guys like

caleb moping crew

at the same time w he want to build a

communis patriotic movement

he collaborated with

countries which are in the attacked by the united states

collaborated with russia today

we've

iran

and and countries like this com um

so so i i can i can understand

because you you know that the lefti this movement which we try to build in poland

in the in the last months we printed

one

one flet

against

that occupation poland by the us army

second leaflet was against the

television tefa when which is proprietur of discovery also americ

the also we were against the buying us tanks abram

so ore ore fight for a social reason

it is connected with also anti imperialism and in the poland specific it is anti imperialism it is anti american imperiality

because we are very very dependent

so

so all no you know

one day when when for example there will be international meet

there will be communes from every country and there will be comeunes from country

which i occupied by the usa

and they will be not happy when the communists from usa came with the flag which they hate

couse it

the flag maybe not in poland because in poland the u s soldiers didn't kill anybody

but you know in iran or i don't know other countries

there are a lot of people who died because of american imperiality because

sanction

well

to you see i specifically know about iranian sentiment

on this question

the victims of uus imperialism don't care about the flag they care about what it means and if

american patriots are fighting

in anti imperialist solidarity with them and actually

mean what's what helps them better right we winning our country and

putting an end to the

policies and the military aggression or us abandoning the war and not being able to make

aus abandoning the flag

and not being able to make any difference about

the sanctions as a

i mean uh

there was many anti imperialists

who were ecstatic about donald trump

being elected because they thought

that trump would be a new

clean slate

a

to start new relations with the s and lift aggressive sanctions

they were wrong but that's what the impression of many

some countries was of course

who does north korea prefer in powers it's trump or

is it biden

the american flag

is a symbol of genocide in a sense in north korea

but

that doesn't stop them from being able to prefer trump

to bide in because trump

did not want a military solution to the conflict on the korean peninsula

so

uh now

i don't know which communist parties directly use the flag of their country i don't think american communist party

would have to use the flag of united states in an international meeting of

communist party i think you would just use the flag of its communist party

but the point is to give new meaning to the fly

not

simply

take it's like what matters more the material reality or the ideal symbol right

for as long as the symbol of american flag represents american imperialism ok

but if people are struggling to give it a different meaning

i don't see what the issue would be

not to clarify my position

ay fervently just so there's no confusion

i think polish communists must be more anti american

they're not anti american enough

they need to be extreme and more like iranian

anti american

burn the flag and so on and so on

anti americanism in europe is good

i want to see more anti americanism

in europe personally i am happy when i see anti americanism

in europe and uh

throughout the world at large because when they are burning american flag

when they're speaking against america

i view them as speaking against my own ruling class

here in the united states

a

because it's the ruling class of the united states which

mm

as its power secured and consolidated by having its tentacles

across the world its influence in poland is

is the same as its influence

here right

to the extent that it's powerful in poland our ruling class is powerful here

so if polish patriots are anti american

and i salute them

right i consider them that's to me true international solidarity

and

so i understand there can be confusion when it comes to the use of symbols

but

we have to focus on the material

reality of the symbol what does it mean

right

american patriots

ah

they may use the american flag

but when they use the american flag they're sending a different message

their message is basically that we are the authentic representatives of the american people or we want to be the authentic representatives

of this country

its history voydborn donated twenty dollars

it's history and it's uh

it's civilization and reality and so on and so onth

and this has been the position of the popular front since the one nine hundred thirty s whether your country's anti imperialist or not

a it's a given that communists must be

sorry whether your country's fighting a war of anti imperialism or not

the only chance communists have

to seize power

respective countries is to be the best

patriots

but remember patriotism does not mean

ah

doing whatever is in the interests of your ruling class or your establishment or your government or even doing

what's going to in the short term increase the standard of living of your population

it means to in the long term represent the authentic interests of your country my view is humanist i think as a humanist

as human beings our interests

are for humanity as a whole

right

and human beings

have differen i

nations and countries and civilizations

and

each one of those civilizations is based on our common humanity

it's my view

so i would like to ask you i w se you video about the communist party of the usa

and i can say that the communist party of poland there are very similar guiys for this

from the usa

and it is not compliment

so

the question is why the are the communist party which before a second world war

was something very strong in usa and

for something combative

today is something cridicle and the

what' why

well it has to do to me with a misinterpretation of the theory of the popular front

so our communist party in united states

thinks that

the the lesson from the popular front

is that

it must til the democrats because the democrats

represent

the the authentic people nation and so on and so on

and

and that

popular front means all of this identity politics and this intersectionality is an anti marxist theory that came out of our

universities

that this represents popular front

but they don't understand and maybe this has to do with the rejection of maustone thought

or something else but

the communist party in usa doesn't understand there's a difference between

authentic

popular forces

and

the represent the apparent representative of the popular forces the establishment

they don't have a good theory of

the conflict between masses and establishments

is the main issue of

a

so to me for example i agree with theory theory of the popular front

but in united states to me this must be the context of a

the communist party should align itself with anti establishment populist forces like the people's party

or other kind of third party initiatives something like that right

uh it shouldn't be

the fall so called representative because the so called representative can enter into contradiction with

the real the

masses

course right

ah

it to me it really is boiled down to this our communist party is

part of american

establishment it's tied to the corporate liberal

democrats

establishment and it confuses this with some kind of authentic historical

progress right it's

it's it's too afraid to go down to the soil of american people and

define itself

on this basis because it views

well if

if we

go down to the people

yeah

without our political correctness and our universities and our

cities and establishments

all the people are reactionary the people are ignorant the people are backward

but

this stems from a lack of

it stems from an idealistic bourgeois kint of view that

they don't have to learn from the people the people must only learn from them

and also if

for example the people are wrong

they have bad views on abortion and

other gay marriage whatever other kinds of issues

if you are ultimately correct

you must have the internal confidence

that you can persuade them or

and

put it into terms that

makes sense to them

the minute you give up on the people is the minute you create a completely bankrupt position

of bourgeois elitism right

when you say ah there's nothing we can do

the people are backward and we are correct

one cannot be a communist

they have this view

you

must

do self criticism and ask

why do i fail to persuade

the masses

ah

keep having self criticism until one is correct don't ever say

just the people are

irredeemable and stupid and

we must

strength and corporate

establishment america in its anti democratic

struggle against the people because they know better

you know what it's really disgusting here in the united states

we have silicon valley amazon the democrats

this new vaccine mandate bullshit

we have a crackdown new kind of tyranny against the majority the popular majority

a and the so called communists are in favor of it because

they think all the people are too

stupid and too backward

so we have to trust the elites

eleats to do the correct thing

what then is left of

the

legacy of the

this is a new kind of fascism it's a new kind of return of feudalism right

the whole point of democratic revolutions

the bourgeois democratic revolutions was

a fundamental faith

trust in the people

thissk is gone

and

communists in the united states will be accessories to the rise of some

new politically correct

the fascism

and what is your strategy for the next five years

do you want to build the party or do you want to present your to election

all

on what

or make revolution

to me

the comm there's only one communist party in united states

and the

i still want to struggle

using my media platform

to seize hegemony over the communist party

ah if i fail

if we fail to

make inroads into that party

then my theory is the party form itself

of a communist party is obsolete

there should be no there can be no communist party

and we should simply

be in a populist party like the people's party and go from there but

i don't believe that i stu believe in party form but

it's almost a theological question

this point right it's like

with catholicism there is one church right there can be multiple churches

protestantism they say no

there can be multiple churches wheor the church is inside the heart

so on and so on

but i still believe in one communist party i believe in a communist party i don't believe i can make a new party because we have millions and millions of parties

sorry not millions of exaggeration

we have several several several parties in the united states

a they're all sect

sects right so to me there's one communist party

and

for as long as there's one communist party i

unless the communists see theoretically

we can influence the party we can make inroads right because

according to its own program and rules and protocols internally

a we won't violate the rules by doing this

but if they suddenly

is drastically change

they will be destroying their own party and i actually think communist party usa is going to

at this road the people joining it are going to destroy the party

because uh

you know this

the new idea is that

united states should not be recognized as a country united states

according to these new people joining the party

is a force of occupation against the indigenous tribes

and there's no such thing as united states what the name of the party is the communist party of u s

it

so what will become of a party

a when it adopts this line that all land and usa must be returned

to indigenous minority

it's the party will have no future right

because

the communist party usa can't be the leader of the indigenous it's the communist party usa why should indigenous accept

this party as their leader they won't

right

so

they're leading it down a road of destruction

what i see

but i want to do my best to stop that

if the party is destroyed

then the goal will then be reconstitute the communist party

some in some kind of way

and what is your analyzis of china d p r k cuba and vietnam

specifically i view china as

the hagelian idea of world spirit the world spirit shifts to different countries right

hegel in his time thought germany was the place of the world spirit right

you can maybe say in twentieth century america was the world spirit right it was

the number one driving force of modernization

in the world it was the leader of the global markets in the global economy and so on and so on and it was the land of the future right

but today this has shifted to china china is today

ands of

sighte of the world spirit china is the future it's not

but it's not

it's not the chinese geopolitical strategy to replace america

as an imperialist power but

to be a guiding force

not using force like

the military but

and just being an objective

example to follow an influence in so on and so on

so to me i don't just see china as a victim of u s imperialism i see china as the future

as a growing power of

the future of

humankind and

probably the most advanced

it civilization

of the world today right so

that's important

a on the d p r k i think d p r k has obviously had many economic

problems

because of u s sanctions in the past two decades but

to me the d p r k is the sole legitimate

the bearer of the authentic and independent korean

civilization

so south korea is a colony

the united states so to me north korea

i

contains the history the tradition

the

how should i say we uh

the dormant powers of korean people and korean civilization so to me

there is a big future ahead for north korea

i have a positive optimistic view

a vietnam

i'm not too familiar with vietnam i heard