UKRAINE-RUSSIA TRUTH (DEBUNKING DISINFO) [2022-03-04]
2022-03-05
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ll right guys those orbiters those deadbach streamers those stagnant streamers i debated yesterday
that's that's yesterday's news right i mean at the end of the day these people aren't going anywhere they have no future at all you know i got to do with my orbiters sometimes got to put them in their place is what it is i know a lot of you guys are not really into that type of content you th to get to the met potatoes are covering the conflict of was going on you know i understand i sympathize with that
one o the debate look he's he's a say you's not got to say as far of the debates concerned before we get into like the bunky more of this misinfo that's going on and covering the conflict what i mean i got
say is that moderator wow you know if that moderator just did their job and made sure that the debate stayed on topic and made sure we didn't have any of this insulting or any cheap bullshit you know if you would have i guess you would have gotten the more met potatoes discussion that you wanted right but the moderator was very selective the moderator basically
i'll give you an example this right so dylan made a really stupid bucking point where he claimed that the impeachment of the welensk he was constitutional right then jackson pointed out that the impeachment was unconstitutional in the first place and then dylan said well there's a debate in ukraine and jackson how could there be a debate when
and according to ukrainian constitution it didn't meet the judiciary requirement it's like a pretty black and white thing and then dylan went i'll consult the legal scholars of ukraine to decide that one as if those scholars aren't just legitimizing opposed to government like as if they're like neutral legal scholars like scientists right so it's like it's a pretty like black and white case
of him getting blown the fuk out right so what did dollan do instead he derailed it and he was like ok has what about the biolabs what does that have to do with anything right it's it wasn't the pretext for russia' special intervention by the way the russians never even made a definitive claim that there are biolabs all the russians said was that they
we concerned at the possibility so a moderator would have been just like ok that has nothing to do with the debate of russa spell special operation a good moderator would have been like bll and i get that you're trying to say that oz may have said something that was
not thrughin but that has nothing to do with the debate right but the moderator didn't give a fuck he let dylan and destiny you realt in that direction and then when i finally tried to get back on topic with the moderator do all he would do is mute me he didn't even give me a fucking chance to talk at all desiny would possibly interrupt acting very disrespectful
so i get a lot of you probably think you know i saw some people in jackson's comments they were like yeah i didn't like how behave he was being so on and he was being so you know he was letting destiny get to him but what they need to understand i forgive those people in jackson's comments because they're from youtube they're not from which they don't know that people like destiny and dylan
are not interested in debating they don't want to debate about ukraine russia all they want to do is have a cheap insulting match and you rail the conversation and they must not know that right they had no intention to they had no intention to do that right and the thing is these are legitimately time waste and we could go over the debate and i can point out to you like how
dylan would go on spiels when the point they're trying to convey is very clear but they like insist upon like i need to say five more paragraphs about
this very clear point
and then every time i talk everything has substance everything is a new and important point like this is my law school shit right like in law school when you write in law school you're not writing the most amt of pages you're writing about what's the most relevant and legally decisive to win a case or to persuade a jury or stort something like that wriighteor persuaded judge
so that level of being concise i have that i don't just i don't i don't i don't say so many words for ss a simple point every word i says is important decisively for the point right bill it and des you're not like that they have dounningre they think they're smarter than they are and that they're like saying some brilliant point when like you already fucking understand what they're saying
give me a second that's the rts g wicki by the way
apparently also i was on ells apparently i was on elis
and a lot of big streamers covered me or something yeah excus se or somebody did
um ya
with i re sad sad but i still love it so and i can
there's so many like beta mailes and weird streamers buzzing around me and shit like who is jangles who is that guy
as far as destiny's concerned i'm going to just say one last thing about thatsiny i know you guys don't want to hear this bullshit we get back to the meat and potatoes but here's my final comments on destiny right before we move on tonight so my final comments about destiny is going to
be this i've been thinking about it and destiny was always kind of a mystery to me right i never really understood who is this what is he about it now i understand it right
destiny is not
i'm trying to think from science fiction what are the you know half life to what are those things and half life to half life to what are those things called stalkers yes stalkers so on half life too you have this
this thing it's called a stalker right i actually don't know what it is or how it works actually would showing this be nudity
now what half life to stok so it's a n p c and half life to and it's called a stalker right this is what it is
this is what it is this is the final thing i'll say and i was trying to think like what iw do i pin it down about figuring destiny out and it's really this thing right with some more fat but no it's not just an insult
i'll explain what i mean destiny is kind of shriveled he just has this kind of shriveled i've always found it pretty grotesque but that's not my point talking about his personality right so
and i started thining was when i met him in person although i was on forty eight hours of sleep i don't was unable to pay attention to a lot one thing i did notice i thought was kind of weird is that he was sitting right next to me and he pulls out his phone the whole time he' staring at his phone so whatre you staring at so my chat so he carries this chat in his phone and he just he spends his time looking at his chat right
and then i realized that her destiny d g g and his chat is a kind of it's a kind of neurological interface it's a hive mind that he uses to actually guide him in life it controls him in life it's actually kind of like he likes these these games he likes that have he likes the league of legends game he likes star craft
he likes having an interface right where it's like an r ty s yeah and his chat kind of control him in the same way and as far as he's concerned i always thought thatstiny why is he such like a bare bones lack of personality like completely he just kind of seems like you know a piece of toast like just
just you know i don't know just what do you call it he's very plain he's very plain plain but shrivele shriveled but plaine
and the way i explain that
is the reason he's plain is because all the actual wealth of personality is fj g right of divers personalities and they actually control him and he is just the kind of like fleshly vessel he's a vessel of flesh that provides vital sustenance to his community
so like his community like parasitically leaches off of destinies like living biological hital sustenance and in return his community controls him when i say control i mean like almost kind of guide it's an interface like he has this chat up he's always looking at his chat and he doesn't have his own brain every time i debate him
im i would check back and everything he's saying is coming from his chat right his chat feeds him anything it's kind of scary because it's like what is destiny without d g ar is chat bee he doesn't have anything what that's why you can't take it that personally you can't take it personally because without that d g g chat he is like nothing he would this without the
without d g g
destiny would be like this
you'd be like an infant taken away from the womb right
he'd be like an infant that's just ripped apart from the womb and is just
writing and writing
you know like you can't take it personally because
he is not an individual
he is a vessel for d g g
he doesn't have anything himself he doesn't have any individuality
he doesn't have an individual will
he doesn't make decisions for himself
everything is his community
um
so he has this weird symbiotic relation to his community where
i mean the reason he's a nihilist is not because he's a sociopath necessarily or a bad person he's just a very weak person
he gets everything from his community all his sense of right or wrong all his sense of what to do what not to do
he has fully become
a vessel just like this thing from half life too
for this kind of
this hive mind
right
or this hive mind
ah
but
oh god
almost threw up
so disgusting
om
in psychoanalytic terms
i don't want to get there but
this is like think of an infant child that's ripped from its mother's arms
and instead gets raised by a redit
or a chat
that's what destiny is
and destiny he kind of has this appearance where' like it's a combination of a benjamin button elderly man and an infant
right
so it's pretty weird
thank you nickit appreciate you
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it's pretty weird actually
so that's all i have to say about destiny is that it's a pretty grotesque and monstrous h
product of the internet
the end of the dig guys i'm an individual i am not you i'm not a vessel for you i go against you a lot
you know
i have a distance from you
what you see with destiny it's a pretty grotesque it's probably one of the most grotesque things to come out of the
the internet
it's just grotesque it's like disgusting
right
anyway
can i get a new mke
how does my mike sound guys is it good
is my my good or what do i have to do
because the reason i went back and watched the debate
a through zirkas a little bit
and yeah it was really really loud right
i was really really loved
but the only reason i did that is because that' moderator
ref you decrease my volume i'll do it like this
he decreased it to like this
wir destiny was much louder than me dillonburn's
out of the
i'm goinga do it all the way back up to a hundred right on the fonker like
i don't know where i started out i don't know how to be like equal i just wanted to be equal i don't want to even drown anyone out i just want to be equal volume
so i didn't know like where out but he kept
he kept putting me down to
and
five
oh
i guess i usually put it here at eighty
is this good
this is just in my device properties my window settings
i genuinely didn't know how it sounded i genuinely did it a lot of people complained
a that it was too loud
but at the end of the day i mean
it's one of those things where our opponents had nothing to say
was jackson annoyed
i think he was annoyed at the i talked to him and
he was a little bit
when i interrupted him i think
i' just lost my temper you know
but
ah i think he was more pissed at the moderator he told me like that moderator kept muting him
cutting him off kept giving them more time you know it's pretty
it's also sad we didn't get to talk about nado
because destiny has this little claim he got from an interview with gorbachev in twenty fourteen
according to which
there was never a promise or an assurance
by baker in his discussion gorbachev in ninety
ninetey ninety and nineteyen eighty nine
that they would not move one inch eastward
and gorbachev made the claim that that specific conversation was in reference
to the nato scell setting up its military in eastern germany but
we go back to the conversation he had with baker
as well as other statements gorbachev made and it's pretty clear that according to the spirit of the claims
made by baker
the assurances that were made one inch eastward meant
beyond
the zone of nato now
they weren't discussing whether poland or whatever is going to be admitted to nato because they found it so unthinkable
like gorbachev made it very clear to baker that certainly we would not be ok with any expansion of nato's
current zone of influence right
um
so
i really wanted to debate that
they were lying last night about the parts that jackin brought up in regards to the fundinges
yeah so they what they actually did was ship the goal posts
so first they said that
the money that the u s gave did not go toward the mid on right
well then jackson disproved that he showed how that five billion also went to go fund the civil society groups
that helped fund the protest
then they shift to the goal post the saying oh
we were just saying that not all of the five billion went to the mid on protests
that's just stupid we weren't saying that the five billion given to ukraine in nineteen ninety one or nineteen ninety two
all went to something that was going to happen in twenty fourteen
we said that this laid the seeds and laid the ground forork for establishing
us funded civil society organizations
that would ultimately carry out the md on but they were using that money
right
the
so they lost on every substantive point
did you see f c c calling you out
h go ahead and whisper to me i'm not sure how relevant it is i do want to get into coverage right
but
we can i guess look at it for now
what did ex you se say about me
go ahead and whisper to me
why did dylan try to correlate homophobia with war crimes i don't know
i don't know why we were debating about lgbt issues at all considering they're not relevant
do anything that's going on in ukraine right now
but i guess everything has to be about that
all this is the one
this is exx q c
a
kepret trying to project ukraine's nazi problem on russia
yeah they were talking about the national movement for unity which was just totally marginal
in a dawn bass
completely marginal force
i mean the majority of russian neo nazis actually are fighting for ukraine believe it or not
what they were talking about is russian national unity
right
destinate and infra read insulw each other i think we need another meet here on the moscow ma
i don't think you found it funny
i don't think he found that insult funny
honestly guys you may say that like ahas you don't you only don't find it funny because you're not the recipient of the joke
i genuinely think it's band kid humor i genuinely think it's like a joke
your history teacher in high school would say and like it's like this weird nerdy boomer humor i just don't find funny
so it's like a russian word
plus your short
the lenin brad
the leningrad munchkin whatever the fuck they were saying it's like
it's like s n l band kid humor you know i just
it's like something you would hear out of fucking buzz feed or something i just it's not i don't know it's not my sense of humor
because if i did think it was my sense of humor i would like
i would also
do the same for ukrainian names
were nato names and i'd be like i'd be like
oh you're the key ofv
m
n i can't say that it's to us
uh you're the key you're the uh
you're the lived loser
destiny
more like the
live in loser ha
i mean i just don't find it funny
the key of tumor
yeah i don't i don't find it funny humor this is like nerdy band kid humor
well i mean there's
there's a lot of consequences to
this campaign against bullying in schools and that you've you're seeing it now
like all the things that you would like cringe out at nerds for thinking is funny
they go online and like i think they have the freedom to like have an outlet
you like i guests
i just think it's corny i personally find it corny you know
does anyone here think it's funny
i personally find it find it corny
i think it's corny that's just my sense of humoor i think it's corny
and the th the thing why i was so angry is like
it's really not my sense of humor everything he was saying was so cringed to me
that it was pissing me off like i was getting angry
i was getting fucking angry
at the idea of someone laughing at this
like you have not been stuffed in a locker
and you need to
i know djj was feeding him everything
short it looks like a has a long toso like the body the body it's like this is my sense of humor i don't know i guess it resonates with more normal people
is as x you see find it funny but that's my sense of humor like
that is my sense of humour you know
the s n l band kid jokes is not
like like for example destiny thought this was really funny he was like
oh is that the same proportion of the azov battalion in the total ukrainian military and then you just see ylon's
you see we don't go
and i'm like holy shit these people
really
found freedom on the internet from any bullying because
if i would have ever made that joke
i would have been bullied
if i ever would have made that joke in high school
i would have been bullied
ok i mean
it's just not funny
right but i feel like when i say this it is funny because
i'm just straight to the point i don't fucking do is ow you never consider that the calcuus the fuck of dude
you know like god
any joke that relies on
having to know like
things that the majority of people don't know is not funny
that's why they found it funny because like most people don't know that much about russia
so when they're like how
looks like we're talking about the the
the the the
the corn hole commisar
it's like most people don't know what a commi sar is only nerds know what it is
so they find it funny so it's like a nerd in joke right
but if i just call him fucking sid yeah it's big bang theory humor that's exactly what it is
it's big bang yeery humor
when i call him a fucking sid from ice age everyone can see what i'm talking about
so like i feel like that's why it's funny be caause like everyone can see what i'm talking about
you don't have to be like a fucking like ugly nerd to know what i'm talking about
could literterly be anyone
you know
that's bazinga
that's exactly d g g bzinga
it's the big bang
you watch the full boty of x youc reacting to me
i don't think he reacts beyond this does he repeat it th i think we need another mute here on the moscow maletse
ah
wouldd you guys understand why i was pissed
my blood was boiling
can we get another mute here on the moscow manlet
and like he's gotten this feedback loop from his
his community that like
this makes him sound so funny
and so bad ass and like that is what makes me angry like
the fact that he thinks
he looks good saying that
i just feel like he needs he needs a reality check
he's narly the same height as you whyse he calling you a manlet
um
because he's putting moscow in front of it and it's like it's really funny
sent you the link of x u c talking about me in whisper
ah okay
yeah let me hear you
ok there's like a lot of shit to apparently like deas
apparently x q c reacted to like a few things
no infrared it gets triggen to lig passigressivet only big fast fucking pedal nerds find funny shi a fuck up bitchody has your sense of humor except like mr girl nobody says your fucking passive aggressive what fast talking mumbling stumbling sense of fucking stok craft umor low bitch
ok
talking laughing destiny passs let me air your dirty laundry destiny because i found out a lot of things about you best me let me air your dirty one do it really yeah let me air your dirty to this guy i'm not going to roast somem
but
nobody nobody tell hm nobody tell theim
that if this isn't cancelled today
ok
it's not going to ge cancelled for something that is in the pass okain
everything that the man has done or said is out there ok
every bit of his nuts
crazy debaters have tried to get him cancelled ok
iss not going to plot some some fucking
piece of intail out of
it's not that i can get him cancelled it's just like there's things that
people don't talk about it
there are things people don't talk about
which
i think at like i don't i don't know if it will ruin his career because i think the only way to do that is to like
if was the platform
and i never call for deep platforming anyone because i'm not a bitch like i'll never go to the authorities you know
but
m
it it's shit that would definitely like start a discourse let's just say that it would be shit that would start a discourse
and it would like get people talking about it and shit you know
which yeah
of less
field ok
thissney has has a i'm sy ok i'm s it
i did
he says i'm should is so far gone
even if i say even if i say that he said that i get smoked on it
i get smoked i guess i cannot speak the words i cannot
i cannot i cannot breathe the words
thiss need tells a joke about nathaner
the
you got
thought one of his friends was contemplating suicide and he told him that feels he was
if
to if he feels it's necessary he should do it
and he laughed about the story what
the thing is i don't i'm going go ahead i don't know if that's true i don't know if that's true
the thing is
if it was true
ah it would not surprise me
again let me just say this
destinies eat i think
all evil comes from s like uh
weakness and he's just a very weak person
right
like
this person could not hold their own without their chat
they couldn't like do anything
right it's pretty sick
you know why i know they're weak because i looked at some old clips
from years ago right
in
honestly that stalker from half life too that's really like what he's like he's like that stalker from half life too which is like uh
just very weak he even s even sounded like he used to sound like this believe it or he like
ah i'm destiny and i'm a mem he literally used to sound like that but he's he's like thene vocal training to
sound less bad i guess
what
a
he's just a very weak person right
captain waffle donated five dollars
supromse age didn't have any arguments
he used argument to de that ridicule
we're straight up tonied reality that u and jackson put forth
dgg is the epitome of liberalism casting a mass psychosis for these losers who can see the east as a future
yeah i agree
um
what i'll tell you what's grotesque about it when i say grotesque i mean like disturbing is that
most human beings have a sense of morality we have a sense of like intuitive morality where it's like
we have some kind of connection to like
just
some kind of
absolute right where it's like
we have you can call it god call it wherever the fuck you want but like we just
naturally have a connection to something
beyond ourselves
that gives us a clear sense of right and wrong from a commonsense perspective right
destiny does not have that he does not have any real morality
the scary thing for destiny is that
his community and his chat is god
the discourse that goes on it's like a form of cannibalism right
it's like
his dijij community that is god like that is his sense of right and wrong
that is for him like
the highest threshold of
um
of meaning the highest threshold of meaning for destiny is the discourse that goes on in his own community
so it's like it's not that it's a cult it's like a weird symbiotic
incestuous kind of relationship he has
to his own chat that producers are really really just very ugly
really like a monstrous grotesque result
it is probably the ugliest thing on the internet
anywhere right
most cult leaders a
most calll leaders
at least the are promising their community there's something beyond me it's not just me there's something beyond me right
that's leave he's just you know he's just
plane is
all destiny is offering
this community
is his own husk
like
just his own husk as a person
his community
it is like a swarm of anonymous
losers and
you know there's pedals there's a lot of sick disgusting evil people
and they just need one host to latch on to right
no
i think desdy is the only streamer who's like this not even nick flintes is like this and i want to kind of talk about that too
because with all this talk about the platforming
i kind of wanted to talk about how
i really wish nick fuentees was not the platform from twitch
and the reason for that is because the
it's not like his relevance has gone away
he's gotten way bigger than before right
but at least when he was here on twitch
that community wasn't as nihilistic and wasn't as demonic
you know
they would at least be somewhat
you know human
m
but now there's like no rules i feel like if you was back on twitch it would be better and i fel cod be more balanced to not i obviously i don't fuck and agree with him
i don't agree with him at all
i just think
if you you know i would like
when therees to be un twitch
i would prefer him to have stateed on twitch because
when it's only libs that dominate every because it's not like those people are just
there they just disappeared when you do platform them
it's better
that
there's an ability for there to be like debates
and dialogue
so that
you don't go too much evento an extreme direction of psychosis and i'm taking notes
of what happened to a fuentes
because it might happen to me
but i just don't want to go down the path he did
where i have a totally unhinged community
why i don't really know his community just from what i've seen i don't want a totally unhinged community ever right
even when we don't have which to os or t
to follow
i still want us to have like um
i want us to have prohibitions right i want us to have things where it's like
you know we have a line we don't cross right
f
yeah
there's those people have two hundred fifty k views what
there's an underworld to dep platform communities i know
and we might you know who knows we might end up there
but all i'm saying is
a it would have been way better
because guess what i'm gonna tell you guys something
do you think destiny is better than nick fuentes i'm going to go ahead and tell you something
destiny is worse than nick fuentts because at least nick fuenttes
brick claims to believe in god
right
destiny is
just as racist as nick fuentes
and just as anti human
except he's an atheist who has no limits as far as what they consider acceptable to do
so destiny is much much worse
especially when you consider the pedal sht
that is rampant in his community the mr girl stuff which is probably the most damning thing
that's public it's like
yeah he's more racist than nick fuentas i think i think that's too yeah i think that as well
um
i think that is well honestly
a it's to me it's like
ah
you know there was a lot of nelism associated with the alt right back in twenty f
twenty sixteen
but that was always like a form of like going against the grain right
the really kind of scary thing that's going on today
is that all of the neolism
and brutality
and like um
all the nelism and brutality of the alt rights
is being co opted by liberals right
liberals are starting to like become edgy for chan trolls
and the difference is like they're pornographic like they'll harass you with pornography they'll threaten to rape you and all this shit
like when you all right did it
yeah it was brutal but
behind all of that they had this like
yeah but i'm a conservative and i'm a christian
and i'm only doing this to fight the enemies of god or i'm fighting satan right
but
when these liberals do it it's way scarier it's way more fucking like say tanic you know
it's actually say tanic in demonic
but like all of the edginess and neholism of the alt right
is now being adopted by liberals and like i told you
the form of neon nazism that exists today is liberalism
and it's through the ukraine shit right i mean like there's like
guys you have to understand something
you know you went the university of milan
band dostoyevski
a
they weren't just doing it because they made a conscious decision to be racist
everyone is trying to virtue signal about this
news cycle in some kind of way so when george floyd died every one want tried to like virtue signal about black lives matter in some kind of way
every underwear company was like inan honor of black lives matter every ice cream company in honor of black lives mat you know what i mean like everyone wants to get in on this
this like discourse right
the thing is when it comes to the ukraine ship
the way it w'k like ok i want to get on this solidarity with ukraine thing
so how do i do that let's in honor of ukraine we're going to ban dostolievski
and it's like it's like they're unconsciously
reviving nazism
through the same mechanism that
progressive causes
were being astroal turf
so all the l g bt black lives matter stuff that was astro turf
in the last decade and byl g b t of course i'm talking about like
you know
not not people in general but just like the causs
all of that stuff which was astroturfed in the past decade
um
the same thing is being used to revive nazism
so it's really weird when people come and tell me has how could you crane be a neo nazi state when they're so socially progressive
and what i would tell them is that
nazism is the conclusion of progressivism a lot of people don't know this but the progressive movement
had always been eugenic in nature it was never some kind of like
you know progressivism can get really ugly you know
ah it was always eugenic in nature it was always extremely racist in nature
and nazizum adopted
its racial theories
from the progressive movement in the early twentieth century a lot of people don't know about this
progressivism is
nazism it's the it's made of the same thing right
a
people people have this skewed idea where
the nazis are the trump redneck people
and the progressives are this enlightened city liberals
no because nazis were enlightened city liberals and
those rule you know hillbilly trump people
those are actually good you know
those are populists those are populists who are not nihlists they you know they believe in god they still have
some kind of sense of right and wrong that's unconscious and embedded
so people really have this skewed idea
so when they're starting so like for example destiny and dillon when i told them that
yeah you can have a neon nazism
that is not necessarily anti l g b t and not necessarily anti semitic
they were like oh ok that sounds based
and it's like yup
that's why we call you nazis because
you just didn't know what nazis actually were you thought nazis were like these rugged
populace who represented the ret it's class warfare it's not about ideology it's about class
they don't hate nazism
they just hate
rual working class people and they hate like this conservatism they have right
they hate their fathers they hate this just
everything that reminds them of anything
real right
if you can show them that nazism is like progressive
except it's racist
they'll be ok i'm fine with nazism then they're fine with like
the racial exterminationi ism in the western supremacy in the colonialism like they're completely fine with that right
the only thing they have an issue with
was that it might be a little intolerant toward l g b t
ah and it might be
anti semitic
and the reason they're a little sensitive to anti semitism
is because in the twenty first century
jewish people like italians and poles who come from european backgrounds
have largely been accepted as europeans right
a
at least in the united states and i'm sure it's also true in europe
but that wasn't the case during the nazi anti semitism during nazi anti semitism
jewish people were not considered europeans they were considered like nor and all dis huxley
take the pill
play the game ignore the horror we need to have a talk with destiny's wife about this
european jews are largely or ultra orthodox i know i know but i'm saying like
the only reason they
have a problem with anti semitism
it is because they associate anti semitism with
the targeting of
what they would consider fellow europeans right
that's the only reason they care i mean
they wouldn't care for example about racism against
a religious jews who are not primarily identified by their ethnicity but defined by their religion
they don't care about the discrimination against orthodox jews
they don't care right because they're atheists they don't care
they also don't care about discrimination against misrahi eastern jews because they're not europeans right
so that's the only reason they they they you know
like you diy try to say ok anti semitism is more prevalent
in russia than in ukraine
honestly anti semitism is a proxy for conspiratorial thinking
not necessarily
actual hatred of jewish people it's sometimes just a proxy of conspiratorial thinking
i don't think most people hate it
jewish people
you know
especially in russia especially in a place like russia
where you know jewish people have long been fused with russians and they've you know there's just
they've
there's it's not necessarily assimilation but it's like fusion right
that's just my experience that's just from what i've seen i don't think there's like a very hard distinction
right
so what's a nazi well that's what people need to start becoming voke about
is that nazism is primarily defined
by this kind of
fanatical liberal neuroticism of purity the purity of
formal purity and like
racial exterminationism
political correctness
and now that's taking the form of fucking like red it if you're not on red it
and you're not a editor like me who likes pokemon you're subhuman
you know
bn for being a pedo why would you give that guy his a career
end of his career yes you mean
don't do sergm at all
my son my son is my son is killed for see i mean that's kind of funny all right that's kind of funny
sort the fuck of i you know i don't know do i do that's a roast xq c now
like to roast m not
girl now he sayd that's discusting why would you talk about your own son and joke about your own son like that so much a chidk and child protective services honestlyreand in your ownuck and son to live
he said what you do don't you want a son
don't you s my son my son is my son is illed for mr girl now oka he's safe
that's disgusting why would you talk about your own son and joke about your own son like that so uch k fucking child protective services honestlyandon your own fuck and son
to live
that is so weird that he would joke about that like imagine being a father and you make like s that's so gross that's honestly disgusting
oh what
and
does
actually what the fuck
jesus
chowd logic does with desnyn't
he didn't even react to that
alright um
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i don't
is there anything else anything else or that's it
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oh
hold on
that's
yet a lot of people are just starting to send me dirt about destiny
and this is some pretty fucked up shit honestly like h
ok
i guess we have a lot
am i going to do streams exposing destiny no
but the next time i'm in v c with him or better yet when i see him in person i'm going to bring this stuff up
not going to like make a whole stream
dedicated him i have video of destiny so you guys got to tell me this shit because i literally don't know anything about destiny
i've found out about a few things the past few weeks
but like
you guys got a really like you know
let's just say i will
you know i'm i'm open to people who have had
whos there's things about you know destiny that you think deserve to be brought to justice right
let's just say that
it's not really ever going to be the primary focus of my dream
five
it's something like you know
keep in mind
cuse he seems to just know all this shit about me
that his chat feeds them so i just feel like you guys should do the same you know
so anyway
let me ust say this let me just say this inviitually
final thing right
i used to kind of be cordial with destiny because i'm a human being i've always been a human being right
it i want you guys to know this right now
officially speaking destiny is an enemy he is probably like
the biggest enemy right now
unto which
he is the biggest enemy ont which of of my brand of me in general
et cetera et cetera
so all kamies are actually religious i don't know that
h
i don't know if all of us are here but a huge proportion are yeah i personally
ah have religious views and stuff so
i think it's very common today for a communists to be religious
m
we're definitely against liberal atheism though even the people who aren't religious we're all against liberal atheism you know
because liberal atheism really is just nihalstic
satanism you know
can you explain to a non commy wid most communist states were atheists
sure
most communist states were atheists
because
by that time religion
was being co opted
by these kind of freemason
atheist satanius
who are using religion
for the worldly gain and the worldly power of the powers that be and it was just completely corrupt
so communist states had a hard line of like completely abstaining
from religion because
they thought it was corrupt it was inherently something corrupt and corruptible right
but there's but there's there's a more mature mature view that was adopted after world war two
when
the orthodox church was revived in russia
and there was a way to make harmonious like worldly justice justice here on earth
and having a sense of spirituality for the hereafter because those soviet soldiers that are fighting on the front lines
mean you're fighting you're just
you can't only focus on what's here on earth you have to have a sense of like spirituality
and other worldliness right
so there's room for both the divine and
be worldly right
not just one
a
anyway this is the current map and the current state of things
now
where's harkive right here
i currently don't know what's going on
so i know i
litopole has been taken
has it been taken fully has it been occupied
and has murrio pulled been taken yet
wheres it no it has not been
mariopl has not been fully taken we know kerson has been taken right stalinism donated three dollars
what's the main difference between islamic and christian escitolity
that's a hard question but
islamic eschatology is more post apocalyptic
whereas i think christian escatology is still waiting
it's waiting for something more like
to complete it right
where islam is more about everything has already been completed
m
islamic eschatology is more future oriented rather than past oriented
check out this clip for maliiple
oppxs the fucked up thing is going to make this kind of hard
is that i don't think i can share r t on twich
i have to email them and check if it's ok
but it seems to me twitch has actually ded platformed
and banned russian state media from twich
like these there's twitch accounts
just because they had ties to russian state media they were banned right
i personally don't know what the status of my account is going to be going i they may still be deciding it right
so you have to keep that in mind but i don't want to give them any reasons to do anything preemptively but just to be clear as i was trying to talk about yesterday
we are in an unprecedented state of censorship right
there's an unprecedented censorship that's going on
yea redded has banned all arty links
so there's just this unprecedented censorship
that we're facing i want you guys to all know that we are facing extreme censorship
and i'm trying to cover these events
while maneuvering that censorship to the best of my ability right
um but yes
a lot of information is being censored
lot of sources are being censored
and it's under twich is harmful misinformation policy which is a extremely vague
an ambiguously defined thing
but we are going to try and like abide by the rules as much as we can you know
because at the end of the day like
we don't i mean unless they just start making marxism leninism
not allowed on the website we're just going to be here right
you don't have russian ties though
if it's just your opinion then you're fine i don't know how it is defined
yet the biggest red flag was trump being the platform
are you going to hit ten k when twitch our majority lives
you open the hat on them you had out three forur the platform but expect to be as son one day
m
i don't know if i'm goinga be on twitch by then
but
i don't know if twitter is going to be the only streaming platform by then in three years
because there's such a diver
there' is such a contrast between the diversity of opinion in this country
and what is considered acceptable by these platforms
that what i'm actually expecting is that by the time web three point zero starts rolling around
we're going to have a more decentralized internet that's based on these block chain technologies
i
we're going to start seeing less big tech censorship in general
the couporl donated three dollars
do you think that there is a potential for the freedom convoy movement in america to put pressure on the a baiden regime to lift sanctions on russia
for owner operators increasing gas prices will be an increased go pro i hope so but the thing is that the current people's convoy which is on its way to d
that is already being stopped and sabotaged
so the police in washington d c are already preparing for it
and they plan on arresting literally every one right
so the people's convoy that left from california that's on its way to d c now
i don't think that one's going to that's going to do well right
so if there's new if there's some kind of equivalent to it
you know that the thing is guys
the reason why canada's freedom convoy work
was because it wasn't expected
right it was altermately something that came to people's surprise and it was not except expected
the fact that they're they can like know that it already happened yeat you already have the
the deep state and all these people they've already like
jumped in on making sure that this is not going to be able to happen again either in canada
or the u s
so you guys have to understand that
the tragic thing
is that most of these uprisings including january sixth i'm not condoning anything i'm just making an observation
most of these uprisings are just giving our government
data inputs with which to use to control us to an even greater degree
most of these uprisings that happen are just giving the government the tools
a to stop that from ever happening again
which is why it's not so much important that they're going to be successful
it's just that we have to draw the right lessons signaling and messages from them and that's why media is so important
like for example
we need to remember occupy wall street nobody really remembers it you know what i mean everybo if you remember what happened on occupy wall street that's a powerful thing right remember
these moments right remember the trucker's convoy remember these things remember twenty sixteen
remember these uprisings that have happened even remember ralph nader
ah remember um
ah fuk what was his name
ross perot you guys remember ross perolt
you know
it's interesting when i debated destiny before he was like oh third parties will never have a chance
did you know that ross perrault did have a chance
and that he was threatened
his daughter's wedding was threatened so he had to drop out of the race
in the summer of the election year
but until that moment he was leading in the poles and he would have
probably gone elected as president
under a third party
ross perout had a chance right third parties are very much
possible ok
yeah remember gamestop remember a m c all of these things that happened
are used by the elites and used by the establishment
to prepare to control us to an ever greater degree than before
which is why
i'm not too optimistic that we can stop
the great recet
i think maybe it has to happen first
for us to be able to know how to resist it right
but we're going to try to stop it we're going to try and stop it as best we can
but even if we fail in being able to stop it that's okay
because we'll learn how to beat it will we will learn how to beat them no matter what
it doesn't matter what happens
we will always be able to adapt to changing circumstances
it's called the great awakening you know
it's called the great awakening
what do you think about russia potentially disconnecting from the global internet
ok that is something i wanted to report on
so i don't know why they have not done this before
and it's really odd because it's like playing a game like who's exiling who first
i wanta give you guys a pretty terrifying prospect right
what is
the blackwives matter stuff and the wear your mask stuff
what if that's not even based on like a calculated plan for astroturfing
what is what if it's genuinely based on just this
corporate impetus
two one
to be overly socialized in virtue signal like
for example
i heard on twitter that twitch has stopped
processing payments
from credit cards from the russian federation
now
maybe this wasn't twich's decision
and that this was just a result of like the banks being sanctioned
in general
but if that was twitches decision it's like
that doesn't make any logical sense
why would twitch restrict its ability to have a market in russia
when that's like an ability for western influence to penetrate a foreign
an adver adversarial ma
territory right it's a form of soft power why is disney no longer releasing its films
in russia
when that's a form of soft power against an adversarial territory
that
is u s state department propaganda
i feel like ah yeah they ban russian para olympic athletes
they ban russian cats they're starting to ban dolstoyevski and all this other kind of shit
this might and this is kind of scary but
it might literally just be a form of virtue signalling that they're doing
where
they'd sit around in a corporate environment like
you know with all this ukraine stuff going on i feel like we should do something
we should send a message and i feel that's all they're doing
is sending a message for sending a message his own sake
and it's kind of scary that
there's these very powerful institutions
that are being weaponized
in order to virtue signal according to the discursive
feed back loops
of social media
and that's honestly why i think china has a better system than us
china has a system
where people don't make decisions based on what the public wants all the time
they make decisions based on what works
and i feel like if we had universities that made decisions based on what works
like for example
let's continue to read do stoyvski because it's good literature you don't always have to virtue signal and make a statement you don't always have to do the black lives matter thing and youn' always have to fucking do the the
the i said i mean the george floyd thing obviously black lives do matter right but i'm saying the the
the astro turf corporate movement
you you don't have to do the whole fucking
what else you don't have to do that whole fucking like virtue signaling based on everything that's running on the news cycle
it's just fucking dangerous right
and you know what i should maybe be celebrating it as a pro russian
ah as someone who is pro russian
and am coming from that perspective unabashedly i am pro russian
right
because i think they're doing the same thing to the military now they're making the military more woke
and i honestly don't necessarily think
that's for any cynical reason i think they're genuinely are trying to virtue signal they're like let's just have the most diverse military possible
a in terms of sexual orientations and gender identities
and
it is genuinely going to lead to a lot of military incompetence
it's going to lead to a lot of incompetence as far as our state works
and honestly that is going to give russia and china a big advantage
which i am far from upset about
right i am far from upset about that
i mean if you look at these new military ads
it just gives you an idea of how our institutions are being hijacked
and in a way when you think about it
it's kind of just there
macrocosm of destiny our institutions are literally like destiny it's like a shriveled husk
of some kind of will power
that is totally hijacked
by this like
ive mind of social discourse
that is actually driving and controlling it
right
the only difference is that
these some high level of control is happening at the end of it like the state department
and the rest are engineering these things and astro turfing these
hive mind discourses for the purposes of social control
and this is all out there by the way ktbat has studied it he's revealed
i we live in a cybernetic society where
public opinion is engineered
based on making it seem like this is like the spontaneous view of the masses you know
the elites are so delusional they do things that harm their society yeat
so twitter has been restricted in russia if you didn't know
a we have more things to report about so a lot of people were reporting on on
many people have been reporting on the
ok correction
this is a s b news
to the chairman of the state duma of the russian federation
the chairman of the state duma of the russian federation says that zelenski has escaped to poland
now in response to this
the you i can't show the source for this information but
the ukrainian parliament claims president zelenski remains in kchiev
after reports earlier he left a pont now take us for a grain of salt right
women can also be in the army
pretty weird to say different
no i agree women women have always been part of the army i agree but
i don't think
i don't think military a
leadership should be based on quotas of like
identities i think it should just be based on how good you are i mean i think that's common sense right
and i don't know why i'm even giving his free advice because i'm someone who sides with russia and i side with china right
so but that's how they run their militaries that's how i would run my military right
but yeah
n i think militaries should be meritocratic
but yeah i mean obviously women
can be a part of the military
so apparently the ukrainian parliament is contradicting this the claims of the chairman of the state duma
oh read the second comment we see
oh we need healers
yeah i mean
i'm sure i can't say this joke it's even worse
are anyway
never mind
ne one
its already bad enough
i
i'm just saying like
oh i can't say this shit i cannot say this shit
iright anyway
a apparently
zealenski's opposition apparently
claims that zlens he fled to the u s embassy in poland
that's what they're claiming
ah do we what do we know i don't know what is the truth we don't know it's nothing's been confirmed we're just looking at claims
ah the u s administration is alarmed by the decision to block the social network
wait
okay hold ah
just give me a second
givem me givem me a small second
now i was not surprised by the news that russia blocked face because ok whatever that's to be expected did did the did did soky lit did she really just fucking say
the u s is alarmed you're alarmed but
you're alarmed by the decision to
you took away artiye america's media license
you like crack you there's universities in italy banning do stoyevski
i mean you are alarmed by russia blocking the social i mean
this is like i don't know to say this is beyond the threshold of fucking reason
what do you mean you're alarmed
what do you mean your
what do you mean i thought at the very least you'd be like ok we're censoring you can censor to they're saying no we just want to censor everything that's russian
sanction the shit out of russia
what
we are alarmed when russia decides to block facebook
it's like
what
how does that make any fucking sense
why would the u s administration be alarmed
isn't that
what
what a literal fok
they took back their ban i know they did take it back i'm just saying the fact they did that initially
you know and there's other examples too that
that russian composer who was fired for not denouncing putin
alarmed
they are literally
h let me think about this what what are some things
dozvodka originate in russia
let me check this i'm going to check first before i say this
vodka origin
ah fuck it's from poland
is it
i was going to save vodka
say there
they are about to ban vodka
because it might have russian origin
but russia
is
you han't to ban facebook
clown country
like what of what the far
they ban cats
they baned russian cats
you want to say that wasn't a decision by the state
your state ban all russian liquor and liquor stores no fucking way
if you want to see it's a decision by the state
fine right
fine that's that's ok
but
even our government took away arti america's media license effectively banning arti america
bike
that's pretty and you know and then also big tech platforms
are starting to clamp down on all things russian right
so it's like
really is it
is is it really alarming that this would happen
there are videos of them removing rush and alcohol this is madness
again guys
this is the same thing as the whole bucking astro turf
black lives matters stuff
and some of that you know other stuff like
there are certain months dedicated to certain
pride months if you catch my drift it's like
it's the same thing
they virtue signal
just to make a statement
based on what's going on on social media and the discourse
except now it's becoming like a form of madness right
where they're just they're starting to just
russia equals bad it's like hey guys does anyone know that's kind of like
pretty fucking it's kind of like racist a little bit like
really everything russian is bad because
me even if you don't like what putin did
or even if you don't like the russian government like
really everything russian is you know you the way you're going to make a statement is just
demonizing everything that has right you're going to you ban russian cats
yeat they're making like an anti russia month
it's like we have the
black history month we have pride month
and now we're having anti russia months
and it's like what
like everything russian is just bad like
in honur of ukraine
we are going to yeat you know something else i noticed is that
discrimination and racism frankly
it seems to be like it's normalized against russians
because russians are considered white and it's ok to attack white people so it's fine
right
that makes it fine
despite the fact
that russians have their own culture and their own history and their own
traditions
it's ok to attack russians because apparently whoa because russians are white it's ok right
that's pretty fucked up isn't it
it's pretty fucked up
i mean imagine being russian
mean russians are being attacked all over europe i there's people in my chat who have told me that they have younger siblings in the
in schools who are being bullied because they're russian right they're being kicked out of group jats
it's almost like that whole trendy like
liberal progressive shit that everyone used to virtue signal about
it's turning making a really dark turn
right
the're yeah they're they're kicking people out of the there's a lot of stories you know that i've been hearing
m
and becus you hars why are you against this ft to shit you're such a you're such a bad guy you're such a you're such a horrible reactionary i'm like ok
you're a leftist right you're a so called
progressive leftist w believe you're fulls shit because this is literally like neo nazi bullshit
that's used with the same methods as that progressive shit
you know you want to ask me why i'm fucking on
against censorship
and i'm against theep platform because it's being used against us
my mother is in hospital because she broke her hip and she's scared to call my father russian
because every time she does people look weirdly at her
yeah it's really fucked up
you think since russian forces have controlled nuclear facilities
ukrainian fascist will target the reactors greater a reason for the west to get involved
m
i think reasons to initiate western involvement in general
would probably amount tou
it would probably amount
let me think
i think as far as reasons to to
to get involved
is
hold on
i think that would have to be like an attack on nato so if they want to do a false flag they'd probably focus on the nato thing you know
it is from the gray zone ok we can now watch this later
i'm just gtting some stuff
anything goes in the video on youtube
called russophobia details everything banned that's russian
yet the left is america and europe's biggest enemy
yeah
it is i really think so
do you think the sanctions are going to cause a recession soon due to high oil prices
oh yeah i think a global econom i mean look
am i going to bet money on it no
i genuinely don't really know right
but
if i ever had to guess
i don't care about the intercept
you know the intercept is
total libshit isn't that where ben bergess works now
but anyway listen guys
a
if there was ever a time that there's going to be an economic collapse
and an economic just
collapse of the world economic system
i think it's happening this year
i think it would be happening this year
right
i don't think inflation is going to get under control i think it's going to get a lot worse actually right
and a lot of people are laughing at the suffering of russians because
of the rouble
well
wait until that inflation comes here because it is right
i mean
people were doing the same with venezuela that all that is coming here
because a lot of people don't understand that our uus dollar petro dollar system is not sustainable
yeah russell phobia is aligned with bernard henriy levi liberal fought yeah
one hundred percent
the portrait of been there in the background p b s blurred out the portrait
look you can say putin
add mysterious loyalties for a long time
he was diplomatic with those world economics formulablehl he was even diplomatic with europe in america for a long time
but i think it's fair to say
and this is why russia is being so
celebrated
in china in
india and parts of africa
even in parts of europe is because it's like
russia has made that
crossing the rubicon decision
to fully join an anti western axis you know
he's fully crossed the rubicon and just
yeah the middle east they're really celebrating him there
he's crossed that rubicon and he's like
yup
we're not going to be like
playing both sides anymore we're just going to fully
side with the
yeah latin america too
russia signed the fourth industrial revolution i don't know what di they sign right i don't know
but this definitely was that crossing the rubicon moment as far as the relation to the west is concerned
what about bearnson
i don't know if what you're talking about is the new batman movie
but i heard it was like super good
and i heard the badman movie was
a right wing propaganda which basically means it's a really good movie
whenever they call a movie right wing propaganda that means it's good right
if any of these fucking liberal rotten tomatoes
movie critics who give these i mean i remember they gave thoug to
eighty percent on ratten tomatoes
eighty percent really i didn't even watch thor two andhen i knew that movie fucking sucked
and they gave it eighty percent
get the fuck out of here you know
i remember that
so
yeah they're paid by disney i know about all that shit
but i heard that the latest bad man is going to guys tell me
can i watch the batman here or do i have to go to the theaters do i have to get in my car
next she drive to the movie theater
or can i watch it from h b o
on my
are they doing that thing where you can
i have to go to the movies
i have to go to theares
bok
walk
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i don't know if i like that movie i watched it and i
i don't know if i liked it
take a tender date
m
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i don't think i want to
new bonus
i'tt you guys
but whenever i go to the movies with like a date or anything
i never focus on the movie and i like i forget the movie because i'm focused on you know
whatever so it's like i don't
i don't like doing that
ah
also the way i act on tender is pretty bad
you guys know how i fuck and act on tender it's actually really bad i'm like
i literally just messes bed like
youyo
i'm trying to hit it i wan't say that but i'm very direct
like immediately like
i just say you know i'm trying not trying to waste no time i said what do i say what do i say
there's something i actually copy and paste to everyone i copy and paste the same one i say i
you'll listen i can open i can open with some corny line
what
um
i would do i say i cold i could orn i could open with some corny line
but
i'm leaving in two days and i'm honestly just trying to bust some cheeks
i don't know
i'm honestly trying to uh
blow your back out i say some shit like that
i just copy i put very little effort
and
if you guys think
this is like has this stupid why was you
believe it or not
the reason i copy and pasted it
it's because it works
not all the time
but it's like the only thing that's ever worked for me it's only it's the only thing and for whatever reason
when you say i'm leaving in two days because i s i would say that in l a right
but when you say i'm leaving in two days
something activates in them with they're like
a fuck
n you think it's the opposite right because like
you think like oh yeah women want to settle down with you
but when you tell them like oh i'm leaving in two days they'll be like oh shit
i don't know
it's a common sales tactic
actually true
this offer is available for a limited time only
yeah
but um yeah i don't i don't i don't know about i don't want to go take anyone to the movies you know
and the first time it worked i was shocked i was like what the fuck
this actually works it's worked a few times
believe it or not
and
i was so skeptical i would like i check their instagram i'd be like is this a real person like
why would they say yes to this
i don't know
the first time
and the first time i did this was on christmas actually it was christmas eve
i was like this is this can't be real this is l a deception
ah
well my fucking
which is in my tender profile believe it or not
so they may be watching me now and i don't give a fuck i don't care it's just i just don't care that much
i haven't been going on tinder at all recently the past few weeks
i've been totally shut in focused on this and that's what i continue to do i have not been focused on any of that shit
and honestly i'm just not thinking about that right now you know
sancts on russia are starting to wreak havoc on global trade
with potentially devastating consequences for energy and grain importers
while also generating ripple effects
across a world still struggling with pandemic induced
supply chain disruptions
you guys ever feel like all of this is intentional i mean
surely the west europe and america surely they know what they're doing
with these sanctions that it's going to aggravate the current
inflation and supply chain crisis
leading to probably a full on economic collapse
and they have to
and they have to be doing this shoitld instead it's pretty crazy right
it's pretty crazy they just they're kind of trying to induce a collapse when you think about it
what is really the great reset the great reset is about resetting
the economy
right
now when it comes to a great reset it's kind of deceptive because you'd think a great reset is like
oh everything's going to get reset actually
the financial monopolist and the financial capitalists of the city of london
these oligarchies
ah people like george soros et cetera et cetera
their wealth is not going to be reset
only our lives are going to be reset our lives our smart small businesses
our way of life
our ability to
be the go to and from work our ability to do the fuel prices
the way we transact the way we consume the way we do anything
but that's can all be reset
something really sick is actually going on right what they're starting to do is they're trying to optimize
all of our lives
around
these financial parasites to be able to extract the most amount of profit
and wealth from us right
they're like resetting the entirety of our lives to turn us into slaves
so they can squeeze out every last
piece of fucking
money they cam out of us basically
right through debt
it's a really sick thing that's going on because these people are seeing a collapse they're facing a collapse ok
we have to secure our position
we have to promote eugenics we have to promote
ah
limits to growth we have to have this green agenda
where we're going to we're going to limit the amount of emissions of carbon we're going to limit the amount
of industrialization
and we're going to promote renewables over everything else no nuclear fusion technology
don't look int di fusion technology whatever
you know
this is all to maintain
the current world monopolies now guys ask yourself why they're against russia
why do you think they're all united against russia
because russia is challenging the monopoly of the globalist
financial capitalist delete
right
russia has its own nationalized oil industry
and it gets its revenues not from loans that are coming from the world bank
but from the sale of oil
and a country with a sovereign energy industry
that is able to derive its revenues
from the sale of gas and oil
is going to be able to use those revenues
to industrialize
a and build up their economy on their own terms you're not going to get an i m f loan
it's going to tell you how to develop your economy
you're not going to have foreign investors be in control
of your industry
and that has serious ramifications as far as the disruption
of the current global status quo is concerned
it has serious ramifications serious disruptive effects right
russia has fifty percent weak exports to the world yet
it has serious effects in cutting into their profits
because ultimately it leads to things like
cutting into their markets right
but most importantly
and this is what people pay attention to
the very least
is that sovereign and independent russian industry upsets
the global currency system
the
post breton wood system the petro dollar system
and when that becomes upset
the entire power of the global financial institutions
and the global financial elite based in the city of london
and elsewhere
that whole invisible spider web of an empire
begins to collapse
russia can transition into a soviet style economy
i think the people who are like really losing their shit
about these sanctions against russia what i think they're missing
is the fact actually
that
russia is not
a
russia' is not some helpless country that's going to be destroyed by this
they have been planning i mean there's been a hole inch let me put it this
there's a big internal debate going on within russia for the past few decades
should we be more open to the west or should we be more sovereign and russian
an independent right and autocratic
and all these sanctions are doing is empowering the forces within russia
who want russia to be more sovereign
and to make more decisions like the one putin made
to nationalize the largest
energy industry which is gasprom
right
so russia has already laid the foundations
to adapt to these changing circumstances of sanctions
especially when you take into consideration
the new economic partnerships russia has been developing with china
so this is not putting russia
in some kind of like totally vulnerable position
where it's going to be incapable of adapting right
russia is experiencing a lot of inflation and it's experiencing
a lot of problems yes certainly
but those are all going to be temporary russia's going to be able to adapt to all of that
ah i think in a very short period give it a few years and i think russia
will have i mean russia has been sanctioned proofing its economy
since its annexation of crimea
and it's a
it's
security assistance to syria to the government of syria
so they've been spending this whole time
making their economy
sanction proof
now you're seeing a shock right now with all these bank runs and panic going on in sky high inflation as far as the ruble is concerned
but it is not putting russia in a in a like
vulnerable position they've already been anticipating this
now i saw a really stupid article that they're trying to spin it like
put it this way
right
put it this way
so look look at this uh headline from newsweek right just to show you the extent
of misinformation
right
just to show you the extent of the misinformation
look at this article by newsweek right you're right that it's not completely crit
crippling them
but it seems silly to pretend they've already fully adjusted
they have fully prepared
for this scenario
being able to adapt to it is not going to happen overnight
but
they are adapting to it
that's what i'm trying to say they have the plan
it's just going to take a little time
quachy says this is copial
quicchy get in my bucking v c and let's talk about whether it's copium or copium or not
why don't you use your fucking head
and put two and two together
is this copium let's see
how is it copium
you want to know examples of how russia's been sanctioned proving its economy
you want to know about how the u s government has been oh you're laughing now you're kic wing
because you weren't serious you were just trolling right it was all just a troll right
well get the fuck out in your little bitch it's that fucking simple
someone in shoquiu wants to debate you now
okay
ah let's drag them in
ok i don't know why it's automatically fucking playing videos like this is such a piece of shit
website
right
let's continue
fougt my throat
i like
i ate some chic fillet and
i guess i
barking on
i ate it the wrong way
drink water i don't think it's going to work
phutin says russia has no ill intentions
and pleads for no more sanctions right so this is what the western media's trying to tell us
is the trying to save his bullshit like oh put is sk no n no please please we're pleading
please stop
well let's see what putin has actually said
thankfully thank god it's newsweek
and not russia today
because russia today's misinformation which is
no longer
compatible with the terms of service
so thank god it's newsweek that we can have access to putin
arti guys arti is very
very scary
scary
this information
do not go near our te
you will be hijacked
it is scary you will be hypnotized
it's just
please it's very scary stuff
don't go and near it you're going to be cursed for forty five days
thank you so much to the authorities
thank you so much for protecting
us in our consciousness from our tea
thank you for protecting our consciousness from our t
it is so dangerous
and scary and i'm so grateful we are being protected
from this horrific
misinformation and i am so grateful that our sources of information are now going to be the people who told us saddam had weapons of mass destruction ya
now we can get our sources of information
from people who said
russia is the reason hillary lost ya
these people never lie about anything i'm so glad
they didn't lie or misreport anything about the conflict in syria yeh i'm so glad
hold on
all right sorry guys so they're saying there's someone in the debate que we're going to debate but yeah they're trying to say that he has ill intentions
and that he's pleading for no more sancts so let's see a
what he actually said
let's see what he actually said
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it sounds to me like what putin's actually saying is
you guys better
cut this bullshit ter we're going to retaliate
you know because we've been kind of
playing it nice for now iss far as our economic relations are concerned
but we can make europe freeze to death whenever we want
right we're going to make those europeans
freeze so work with us
um
and stop doing this fucking bullshit
stop aggravating the situation cut the malarky
i don't think he's pleading with anyone
i mean this is such like a you know how you guys you guys used to see the fucking point
like this is like reading destiny's read it
this is like reading destiny's read it
like where from what putin's just said
are you getting the impression he's pleading with anyone
where is the pleading
there's no pleading it's a complete bullshit narrative spinning but of course newsweek would never be a source of misinformation
ah itt newsweek is totally allowed it's not misinformation
it's not this information
it's um it's just you know it's it's just well it's western so it's true right
it's not r t which is bad
why are you yelling we haven't taken alaska yet when alaska comes back to us then
you will scream
why is the red line ukraine was not estonia latvia
because of the volgo grad gap mostly well there's two reasons
ukraine historically is
be little it's
mall i r see it right
it's part of the
it's part of life
russia right basically more or less historically
the baltic countries are not even slavs the latvians and lithuanians wo aren't even slavs they're just their baltic peoples are totally different
completely different peoples
but mainly it's geostrategic it's the volgograd gap
which is like vital to the existence
of the russian federation
and any hostile power that occupies ukraine
puts russia in a very very very vulnerable position
a very vulnerable position
it we're going to drag some guy up from vc
ok we have a sky's going to debate in v c
apparently right
so let's drag this guy out
not
the fuck did you say
show us how you look
show us how you look z
jose how you work
we i don't want to do that and anyonant to do so what do you want little bitch
i want to tell you that you're supporting criminal war
oky go ahead how am i supporting a criminal war
because the war in ukraine is kind of illegal
okay how's it illegal
because ah it's an invasion
okay was ukraine's violation of the minsk accords illegal
you'll have to refresh me on that i don't know what those are
ok was the was the coup the might on coup in twenty fourteen was that illegal
i thought that
ah
okay
so that was like the stuff with
another leader i don't even fuck and know the history of this place
like all i remember about fucking ukraine is that there was a war in twenty fourteen
when russia invaded crimea
a
do you know about how the government was illegally deposed in two thousand and fourteen and they called it a revolution
ok the government of
ukraine
yeah
ok
as far as i'm aware it does seem that there is like a lot of like
murky shit
with
like
because like didn't they have like
an election and then they like refuse the results or something or
fuck there was but widespread protest like this stuff man like
it doesn't really
like because after like that like
the the russians kind of like
i don't know like
it doesn't really excuse like the military action
you know
all right well
the thing is that over fourteen thousand people have died as a result of the conflict in eastern ukraine the majority of whom are russian speakers and ethnic russians
who do want would rather prefer to be part of russia than ukraine
um okay
ah
maybe but like
see
i just
don't know if i really believe that man because like
what what part of it don't you believe
i don't believe that
russian speakers that live in ukraine would want to be part of russia
we're the one like the one he like lis on of them
the ones that liveing a rebel occupied territory certainly do
well like
good for them but like i don't really think that's how countries are supposed to operate you know
like i don't think that russia can just like take territory
because they feel like
well it's not that russia is just taking territory it's just that they are defending the people that how are they not mam is they're defending in with military forces
well because they're defending the people within that territory to have the right to their own self determination
okay
but if we fst get like
that that like this is
pretext to today
when we have an active invasion where there's fucking missiles and shit
and people are dying like there are many like hundreds of civilians that are dying
like
right now
because of the russian can you please provide the sources about the number of civilian casualties
ah
that are be that are dying on a daily basis because of russian shelling
im
let's see
i don't even if i can have anything because
i just kind of like look at this ship
like
on combat footage and i can kind of
tell that people are fucking dying
well i think people have been dying for eight years there have been over fourteen thousand whove died as a result of the conflt like there's a there was like a definite uptick you know because i started looking at that forum
like
when this invasion started and like
the footage started rolling in like as soon as it ha started
like are you talking about the read it form
yeah but like you can't really fake footage of jets that are like actually being like shot down
at like
it's impossible to fake it from that many angles dude like
what is the widespread footage of russian jets being shot down
well there' is like there's it's not just jets being shot down there's helicopters
and also like ukrainian jets and like tons of tangs are but date
of when those were those videos were taken can you confirm the conflict in which they most of them yeah their time stamped for like like last week
be times but you realize that there's footage from like the war in syria
there's not like five
there's footage from all conflicts around the world that are being passed off i mean there was even video game like you could but you but ukraine is not the same climate as syria syria is as far as i know it desert
you know sena is not all a desertk it has a desert in it it's all it's also like closer to the ocean and like more
like closer to the mediterranean that was wen you could there's plenty of places in syria where you're not going to see the mediterranean
that's fair but i like
the footage coming out of the ukraine has been mainly like
featuring places that are snow which kind of makes sense for february
in that last donated fifteen
thankshx
but
so
ok so because it's no can you show me what the footage that is exact so i could see it myself
sure
well there's like if you just like
it like you sure like the
like that
i mean
yeah i don't know i didn't i should have like
gotten a couple ready
to be honest but
is i think you're really kind of blind to the level of misinformation that's going around about
how they're like what it i don't i don't i don't think that it's possible to like
if ok i'm not saying that the what is think i'm not saying the footage is c g i i'm saying
most of it is being mislabeled
right there's plenty of examples of footage from twenty fourteen that's being passed off as from now
there's footage of like read jets like a lot of a lot of like the cities can be verified like
like they can be verified like as the play on the show and show me you had them you had the map open right i'll ok here's what i'm going to do every of and what i'm going to do is i'm just going to go on combat footage now
and i'm going to just
scroll through examples is it called combat forum or combat footage
ok coma and what it i can send you the link if you want
all right journalist takes two round
into their body
armor at checkpoint
ukrainian id ukrainian farmer was spotted carrying a russian tor and tw
so yeah there's a lot of this footage of these
farmer vehicles that are towing what is supposedly russian equipment
but then upon further confirmation we find out that it's not russian vehicles it's not russian equipment
it's actually ukrainian
right
ukraine like why but like
this clearly is not s why odical can y papll be recording
videos then
like well because they're trying to they're trying to ptray they're trying to retray an operational and logistical disaster for russia
well ok maybe that's true but like you can you
like
there's some pretty bad videos man like of civilians being shot at and stuff like
thk
the just ones in particular
well there's like plenty like if you just take a look
and like
i'm just saying that like
what is that like what is the reason for this conflict
like why does this have to happen
why does this have to happen in such like a in know like a large scale
m
what
what do you mean why does this have to happen in such a large
scale i mean
i mean yeah they're showing footage of s f s a rebels in twenty fifteen and it ha's happened on a large scale because
russia has tried to settle this matter as peacefully as possible so it's going to achieve three aims right
going to make sure the ukraine
i think that's what they're conducting like the special military operation then yet they're going to make sure ukraine and it is it a very large scale special military operation
what what relative to what i mean relatively like you like i think is like one hundred thousand for like one hundred thousand soldiers like
there have been estimates from ninety thousand to one hundred and ninety thousand i don't know how many of those are confirmed
and i could try to look of the america only ever have like one hundred thousand in like how many did america have in afghanistan during that
whole fucking debout the thing is the amount of troops on the ground
are not going to be comparable
when i do don't i feel like you don't understand the nature of conflict like the more soldiers there are on the ground
the more fucking people are going to die it's just a fact
no not necessarily
why do because they're not going to shoot more bullets
soldiers on the ground are not just there to shoot bullets
but they're to secure territory and fight and engage other soldiers are also there to operate machinery they're also there to carry supplies and offer medical there's a lot of things soldiers are there for
they're also there to do evacuations and all sorts of kind of things
but i think what you don't understand that your main thing like the main thing that soldiers have to do like the most difficult task i would argue is probably the killing
like that's the thing that if you if you're just oil no no
if you want of live you want to just kill then all you have to do is maintain air superiority and basically just bomb the shit out of the country with your error worse or use l in sartulary or rockets that are kind of like
or just like just indiscriminate yeah but that's not russia's goal russia also wants to capture that this territory intact which is why it needs soldiers like the ground
but like didn't they also like capture it's i'll explain it to you if you want to know why there are so many russian soldiers compared to the war in iraq
it's because russia borders ukraine that's an important context
the second thing though is that this is a police operation
where they're sending soldiers to temporarily occupy these parts of ukraine
and maintain the peace
but in terms of how like large scale this is compared to rat rely that it's not very large at all at all right like the framing doesn't really make sense though because like this is a sovereign nation right that has like
fair and established borders and like
it's a country that exists and like
what like if other soldiers just like roll in what do you call that
well
a country has spare and sovereign borders only in so far as that it has a fair and sovereign government
and when you have a coup in a country that it's going to upset
the the status quo and people are going to want to succeed in certain territories
and you can't say those people don't have a right to
because by that same logic
nobody had a right to depose yanakovitch
w the mdan cup in twenty fourteen
right
so when you have these coups you're going to have people who want to suced
and it's going to be just as legal or illegal as i'm from can i'm from canada man like the people in fucking alberta wanted to secede texas wants to secede from the union like
just because people want to sece doesn't mean that it's necessarily the good like the best thing for like right hes usually don't have a right to secede because it's illegal right
and the basis of kind of like stupid
well no it's it's because it's illegal right and it violates the sovereignty of a cod man because like if you because like if you like break apart
borders with the country that you exist in
like you kind of
like that country is protecting
you with its military
like if you do that then all of a sudden you have to find your own military
and organize yeah i don't think that's a problem or that's relevant for the people in the dan bass
because the russians are doing it for them
what
well like isn't that like isn't that the purpose of the special military operation to like
police the region
and effectively like establish it under russia's
like
rule
russian rule will basically only amount to three things
ukraine like i'm just saying man like there's like a precedent for this russia likes to do this they like to like invade other countres i think i think you're not let's see because there's not going to be issue is that the devil's ok you are mam just so this is not i this is actually a problem this is actually a problem i encountered last night in my debate is that
it seems like your side is not you don't care about actual details you just want to like paint a broad brush and roll with it
right well yeah because like
well
i don't know e because when i because when i think it's im a little bit like what you're doing because you're kind of like glossing over civilian deaths
and like well yeah yeah the thing is ok yeah but the problem is is that
there's only three things russia wants to accomplish
it wants to remove all foreign weaponry from ukraine's soil that poses a threat to russia
it wants the guarantee ukraine's neutrality and finally
it wants to stop the anti russian
activities of the ukrainian government
which amount to attacks against the people in the dn attacks against the people in the dawn bass
things like the banning of the russian language from schools
et cetera et cetera
so those are russia's terms and conditions as far as you ukraine's ability to exercise self determination is concerned
russia has no intentions of violating that
they are just their interest is primarily geopolitical and not related to the internal governance of ukraine
well i mean they're kind of like
a they're kind of like
violating it
there right now by like trying to like
push ukrainians out of yeah but the problem is that ukraine is violating the balance of security and russia's security in europe geopolitically
with its talks of joining nato and developing nuclear weapon likes i feel like
is actually just like
some sort of like
weird ass like
us s re like
revival theory
that people want that like russia that like some russians like very
radical russians
want to do because they feel like it'll bring their nation greatness or something
it's like rush russia is destined for russia is destined for greatness because it is a great power and always has been
it is one of the world like lely gregy how invade georgia and ship
because when it comes to the georgia invasion or the ukraine invasion you have to understand that a lot of people have this this
wrong view of the aftermath of the break up the uussar
that this has settled everything all the territorial ethnographic and
all these kind of things have been settled
and that it is what it yeah and i like there might yeah there might still be like a little bit like in georgia in georgia i wasn't russia
who is a deal like this might just be like framing so that russia can like make excuses to invade places for territory oks so why do you like russ actually being antagonized by nato ok ok why do want to s s s certiny can feel like they they're justified
tok insured plece so why does russia need this territory
because it has a lot of oil
so do you think the russians are short on oil
why do russians need more oil than they have now
why do why does well more oil is always better
yeah the problem with making an economic argument is that what russia has done has actually harmed it economic and not like you know that ukrainins like the ukraine actually sorry
ukraine actually like
they have like a bit of i guess they do have a bit of like an adversarial rate relationship maybe but like
i don't know because like russia has like a bad
history like my
family is polish s
they understood this well like just as well because like
in the eighties there was like a state of war declared and they thought that they were going to be invaded
just like this
ah okay but
i don't know it's i think there's a lot of there's a problem with a lot of people who are
just trying to say russia is the us asar when it's not
russia had to pay
russia had to pay all of the us ressars
some of their leadership has like really like fantastical visions of the past
and feels like
if they revive that pass
then they can you know
like
help russia like achieve
greater visions of
what you have to sand is that i don't know or just kind of
in a way kind of just seems like this's like dominant struggle like
they feel like they're being dominated by new yeah but the problem is you have to start thinking rationally about it and start asking yourself why is russia doing what it's doing
i mean i think
pretty like
i honestly think that like
you know they think that they are bigger like because they are bigger
force in the world that they can just you know
come down on a smaller force that doesn't have the protection of nato
and just stick the middle finger to the west and
white then why didn't they invade the central asian republics or armenia or azerbai jan why not invade those countries
those countries are not in nato
well i don't know because
like it's tricky because like
because they were afraid of sanctions probably like these ones that they're getting smashed with now
because that's what happens when you declare war so why would they do it to ukraineic
that's a that's because
bck
because this is been like an ongoing conflict since twenty fourteen
and this is just like an escalation in that com
so do you think russia has any legitimate or rational reason for its special military operation in ukraine
not in a modern world no
so they're just doing it
based on completely irrational motivations
it kind of seems like it man because like like
when you look at like
the bulk of the footage it seems to show like a lot of these people are
like a lot of the soldiers are like conscripts that were lied to and they were told that they were just going to be like
you know walking into this place and
like treated where have you seen evidenceor yeah where have you seen evidence on that footage if you want to check it out or ukraine were report so yet can you just show me the specific evidence that soldiers were in ukraine thinking it was going to be different
well here's this one's actually pretty perfect
because basically like nobody like think about this man like who wants to go fight a war like what think about it from the russian soldiers perspective like why would they be
who the hell wants to go and fight and die
for what like
why what like
i don't think the thing is i
i don't think want to denoncify this place
i think you're you're making it seem like this is like the vietnam war where there's a lot of casualties on the russian side but
the russian state duma is reporting at the most the
well because after alls
like this is like this is just like
the nature of conflict like you need high morale you need a good reason to wanre and well don't you think that
well and i don't see how morale would be a problem for the russian side of they're protesting in shit they're like throwing their people in prison for protesting
like that's once you think that's kind of like a pretty like broad brushed narrative that's not representative of the details of the facts like
if there are some protests happening in russia does that really demonstrate any widespread
discontent or are you like well if but like if there are protestsk let me ask you something is that ok as a person that indicate that the country might not be like
you know
so willing to problem is that you have to know whether that's marginal relatively marginal somewhat common common very common or extremely common
and that's going to define its relevance right
mean there's someone in america who just got arrested and thrown in jail
for streaking in the local wal mart
while wearing a
a horsemass and just running around walmart with their dick hanging on
like mobile phones are have kind of changed the face of the planet man
because ok yeah we have phones that can upload video
sure so like this is something that people have know ok ok ok so let me ask you a question as someone who you have to admit as someone who's very impression of the events
is very much affected by the widespread
sharing of images and videos
attached to certain narratives
well don't hold on hold only finish the're going to we going it's just one part of my yeah yeah yeah as someone who's very affected by the spirt widsmd very affected that's a misrepresent no i think because all of all of the things you're telling me are based on like astro turfg supp attached a narrative what but i ask you question if if i g ok if we assume if we m assume that the majority of human beings
if you assume that the majority of human beings due to our monkey brain right we have monkey brains
majority of human beings probably think like you do
where their impression of the events is going to be based
on the images and videos that are shared the most that are attached to the most narratives right
don't you think it kind of makes it very easy for people like you to get manipulated as far as what the truth is
all it really takes is someone
sharing an image and putting a title on the image and your entire impression about the conflict is going to be changed
how does that graan
how are the images created
i'm not saying the images are fake i'm saying they're being mislabeled
okay but
if there is but some are faker some are actually from video games there is a larger number of them being created in a shorter amount of timees that indicate
that the issues that a lot of these images are not being created they're just being dug up from other conflicts or being taken out of conlaw
that
doesn't seem like the truth because like there's a lot of new ones and like
they all have like the z and like
yeah i can show you an example
of a of a photo shopping video or where is z ok but i want you to look at my stream right now because i just want you to see this i don't want to fuck and look at your chat yeah go ahead you do have to look at my chat but i just want you to look at my screen i going to show you something
because i think this is honestly if you're going to be honest here you have to admit this is kind of mind blowing
right you're probably going to be a little surprised by this
so you just mentioned that like thes like ok but like
i just want to show you how it how easy it is i thought you were like a communist though man like how can you supplyt one of these one thing are like a one th the richest people on the planet that thes
so one thing at a time i just want to show you how easy it is to doctor footage
so this is footage from twenty fourteen
like
it does not have a z now this is footage that is claimed to be recent
with a z that is photoshopped onto it
right and if you think that's a one off here's another one right
this is the like what about what about the did you
there is another on if you have your seri hold on hold on we watch the hold on this is is w garson soldiers being interviewed
this is footage from twenty fourteen
again a z is photoshopped onto the footage to make it appear
as if it was russian
and there's examples of ukrainian flags being doctored out
and replaced with zz
there's other examples of this i could show you
but i think you already get the idea
ok but like i don't think that just because it happens a couple times that
means that it's happening on a large the issue is that this is exhaust is that w well there's two things there's two things like these it we don't know i just are you just trying to tell me that like this conflict isn't as actually bad as i believe because there aren't civilians dying
n know there definitely is are
there definitees are civilians ying number of people that are fucking flee ok i'll give you an example of why it's issue it's hard to talk about this obviously there are civilians dying
but for example the guy dylan burns claim that it was why di most illions have to die
the guy dodan burns claim that russians killed if the russians invaded with the civilians have died
yes because civilians are dying
every day they were conflict in the dawnbass yeah
yes they would not not of this scale
okay
anyway russia has been very careful to do the best it can to avoid civilian ca what caused the evacuation then
like why russia led the evacuation people russia is the one that is sablish i don't think that there's like an uptick in this conflict then like why whyy why do you want to ascribe russia responsibility for the civilian casualties right
and yeah because they're the instigators of the conflict
that's not true
they're not the instigators of the conflict
i i feel like that's just like
free instigators of the conflict once are to feel justified
the instigators of the conflict are the one he
ok this is like this is i want to like hitler talking about the jews
in saying that you jews
yeah do so i want to share i don't want to
i would rather share facts with you ok
so
right before the uptick of ceasefire violations in the dawnbas
in the past few months
i think was in february january
the u s recalled all of its o s c e observers from eastern ukraine
would have been able to tell us who started those
so why would the u s recall all of its observers for g
now the other thing they recallld all of their observerss because truming because it wasn't that like the were in those theears that trump was in office or
no this was from last month
no
the other thing is that
um
according to the state duma
of the russian federation
and i don't know why they would lie about this now
they had intelligence from the g r u which was on the ground
m
like minute by minute observing the enemy's actions and they were saying
that their invasion happened one day before the scheduled invasion by the ukrainian army to go
into the dawn bass occupied territories
now you can say that we have no reason to believe that
but it actually does line up scarily it does line up with what people in eastern ukraine were saying
like russell bentley who was predicting this for a long time
um
so
it's just it just eerily lines up with what what they were saying on the ground and also what people were telling me in eastern ukraine
thean i know personally
ok so
so how many ukrainian soldiers have died
not nearly as much civilians that have died that were victims of the ukrainian military
ok but
but like what's the number
thank you
like
if a lot of people die in it's been like a week of fighting and hom i honestly don't know because i'll tell you why it's such like a
weird misreporting that's going on
ukraine claimed as of yesterday
that there are nine thousand russian casualties
russia is only claiming five hundred on its part
ok
so someone's wrong obviously about this it's just who's wrong right because
because the russians have mobile mobile crematories and they burn the bodies
so that can you give me evidence of the mobile cremates c crematoriums because
the ones that i was shown were actually crash trash incinerators
that were not mobile crematoriums at all now voh f voh also
shared that fake news which was completely debunk
and it's it it's actually one of the biggest
examples of misinformation and disinformation is ofrown around the conflict
who is it from
am i looking a it was being shared on twitter
no
well
and it was it was a trash incinerator i just pulled one and the sad thing is that the photo
the photo of the alleged mobiletorial like you're kind of having like a bit of a
like how about but this is what's sad just being the photo that vos shared of the so called mobile crematorium
was literally the original one literally had
a trash bag filled with trash on it that was photoshop out
they didn't even have you time what if you're wning one that didn't have a trash what idnest shit is actually happening and you're just wrong
i mean we could go through the evidence if you want
guys yeah lingk the photo in fact checking so i could show him
link the photo of that trash crematorium
ah so i could show him
yeah yeah
so this is the so called chilling footage
of the of
prematorium that supposedly could be used
there russian soldiers now
this is literally a garbage truck
right let me let me show you the chilling vot it because because that's like a fucking
they're using garbage to illustrate how it
like evaporates matter
yeah i just don't see why they would use it
for that
because they don't want to document the death
yeah but it's kind of convenient that ukraine can claim all these casualties and then he can explain it away
by showing a random video and this is not even from the combat this is the only reason why i don't even know if thises't rem you rain hold on i don't even know if this is from ukraine
ok
all right
i feel like you're just like
being way too like
so giving way too much cre the origination of these rumors is that defense secretary ben wallace
suggest russia don't know why you support these people man they're like rich as hell like aren't you i mean to be do you really believe that this is literally be richest most possile is is this a body to you i mean this is just a trash bag
did you like did you fuck and not hear me when i said earlier like
it's a bot i was solder and have my geners that so little thingot me like getting the fucking flames hot enough
so you can burn a corpse
yeah but it's literally not used for that
i would well why why couldn't it be it look that looks like
but don't you think the temperaturere like enerightle botle on
don't youin like it turn like to be like three or four
don't you think that i'm for w on first of all the uteo hold on the video is from twenty thirteen
and also don't you think the temperatures
to incinerate a human body are very ob there this looks like a well the because it looks like
what to in to incinerate garbage well like
it depends like it loks that's what it's meant for
well and there's no there's no footage of these following any of the russian
convoys or platoons arriving like
why are you even bringing the up
i don't even know why anyone brought this up
the all this started because someone shared a photoshop image
of this like photo without the garbage bag and said
russians were using it as a mobile crematorium it's like
why you know
because they don't want to they don't want you know i mean why what a random thing to make up
i don't know
i mean i'm surprised they didn't say that russians are just throwing ukrainian babies in here or something
like there's a lot i could really your operating i'm surprised they didn't say that you know i'm surprised they didn't say that ices like
a mobile nuclear weapon because most people would bei you're not just like you're just like doubt honestly i think if combat footage shared this and said russia has a mobile nuclear weapon and they're planning on blowing up the world
you would believe it because you don't even know what this is i don't even know what this is
right but i think you would believe well
the
oy
look at the
like the fucking like
steel pad is designed for body
it's
the
it's really not
the thing is it's really not
this is from twenty thirteen and it's a trash incinerator
it is absolutely not
designed for bodies it is literally for garbage
okay
well
im i'm i'm saying that like i heard the i heard reports of the mobile cre crematoriums i'm not douting you heard the reports but
i'm pretty sure you you were being lied to
and i feel i feel like you're just like doubting like the escalation of this conflict because like you want russia to be able to have the justification to invade
i'm not doubting a s i gla share
how many people fuck and die
yeah i'm not i'm not i am absolutely not doubting the escalation of the conflict
i am doubting that russia has mobile crematoriums that are following it around that's like the biggest cope of all time like what we can actually is we still doesn't tell me why like would you like to buy the mobile crematorium yourself would you like tell me why this invasion happened
well we can buy this actually we can buy the the mobile crematorium
o they're calling it a mobile incinerator you're lying like this is you all you like do you you did like is the reason why like
you
well listen this is a russian propaganda website like
yeah this is called the india this is called india mark and it's a russian infiltration of india
and they're lying and saying it's for domestic waste when it's actually for the bodies of fall and so youel like this is like the smallest little thing
and like you're kind of missing the overall point
i what is because this is my problem is that
overall points are being portrayed and overall narrative is a ight point is that there's no justification for an invasion and you can address that a you just if you want to debate about that we can but can be the problem is that these overall points are being made with a lot of small lies so you have a big lie
that's based in a lot of small lies
and it's like
it's just seems like your tryes onant you know you want to side with russia
because you have like
this hard on for the u s s r
you can speculate about the reasons about why i'm so sympathetic to russia
but i'm trying to actually at least pretend to be impartial about how i'm oring like do you call yourself a communist
yeah
then why do you support like these oligarchs
which oligarches in particular do you have in mind
the russian ones that are waging this war
like vladimir or putin
why do you fight and say is ladimir putin is all mark himself now
he yeah he is because he's fucking rich as hell well not anymore because of the sanctions
yet do you have any evidence do you support this war that's getting people killed
you have any evidence of lightings really we fucking disgusting
do you have any evidence of vladimir putin's personal wealth
do i
jesus christ
this is like at your
you're like alex jones of the left
yeah and i'm just asking you youre fucking leader of the country
i'm just asking you for evidence of his personal wealth
and makink google some shit
go ahead please like what you like aren't addressing the point like what what's the point of this war why do you support these people
why do i support
russians
why do you support a war that's getting civilians killed
why do i support civilians being killed i don't
well then why do you support the russians going in
m
i it's not that i have to support the russians going in i just don't think they're in the wrong for doing so
they're in the wrong for doing so because the civilians are dying if they didn't go in the civilians wouldn't be dead
yeah i think people with families there have been over fourteen thousand deaths in the dawnbass
so yeah i think there're actually and also nothing that's nothing compared to it's also a that's als not that you're just it's not the way parent say can you provide evidence and oh it's not actually as much as you say ok that's also not compare refused to believe that fucking daddy putin could do anything bad yeah
but that's nothing compared to the amount of civilian lives that are endangered
by the expansion of nato to ukraine oh yeah very much increases the likelihood sion of the expansion of nato
it like in the heightening of security and like deep
the fucking ukraine gave up their nukes so that they wouldn't get invaded and this is what happens
no that's not why they gave up their nokes
yees that why do they give up their fucking nukes that
crese the threat of nuclear war
like youre you're like you don't understand the reality of any of this shit
you just live on the internet
like
you don't understand that real people are fucking dying
i can't believe you
yeah but the thing is that
a complete dumbfocx
like i cannot believe like
i think you're are you getting a little emotional here like you because because real people are fucking dyn you idiot
like this is a real fucking war and you're defending it because you're just a fucking like
dumb fuck ap that supports us s r
yeah i think the issue is is that
the amount of civilian thet had dumbfuck that doesn't understand and you're able to the amount of civilians that would be endangered by the increase this is a oking copium the amount of civilians that are dead because of this is fucking way way higher than any fucking hypothetical
are you sure so if let's say ukraine am i sure i have the fucking numbers to ok sure just let's see let's going to disbelieve it because you fucking you're so subverted by this bullshit putin asphole
god damn ight let's say bucking t g b did a number on your scolet's say ukraine joins nato and then ukraine decides you know what since we don't recognize russia's claim to crimea
we're going to retake crimea and start a war with russia
because because don't kind of think that would be use rushors not a legitimate claim you dumb ass just because pes was don't meing that introduces don't join the fucking nation of another
of another country because they fuck and feel like it
yeah but don't you think that refor don't you think that's yourtend in troops
don't you think that's a major source of security haus act don't you think that's a major source of concern as far as the security of russia and ukraine is concerned you're just like
repeating these regurgitating these fucking talking points you're kind of thinking not do you kind of sound like destiny right now where you're getting a little emotional and kind of getting a little upset are you ok
do you know that real people are dying and i have a right to be emotional because real people are fucking losing their lives so this bullshit and you'r def well re
it seems like you're a bit s like howarmzt your s shalcking piece of shit
but you don't care about the fourteen thousand that have died in the dan ba i do care about that because i think that russia but you were never rely sad about ukraine's us have the right dwn bass
oh russia didn't have the right to invade the fuck and dom bass
or whatever whatever russia didn't invade the dawn bass the dodwnbass youyh the just the just like took it they just like rle rolled in with troops and didn't tell him they provided military assistance to rebels who are already holding that territory
oh yeah
so what we're going to go back to like fucking futile ages
and have little rebellions
i don't think resillions are unique to feudal times i think there's plenty of example thk the're prety fucking stupid in an age with military weapons are you people are saying you're adam something is that true
no n
you're not adam something
no
i just have family in poland that are actually experiencing the shit up close and i think i have a fucking like
at at like a
stronger grip on reality than you do
ok but it did i don't think you cared until it wasn't only russians who were being caught in the crossfire of this conflict
uh i think that's copium and i think that you're just making excuses for the fucking
all right what do you mean that it's copium is what is your are just making it you're making excuses for russian aggression
that's what you don't you think you're arguing in a kind of irrational way like
i'm i think i'm arguing in a way that like just like
that's actually pretty realistic i think you're just i don't think that russia russia actually just like wants to expand because
the yeah like i get that you're really committed to a narrative
right i really get that you'r commared committed to your narrative
but we're here to debate about whether it's true or not it seems like every time i make your argument is like the biggest projection i've ever fuck and heard
like
you're the one that's like committed to this narrative
that russia isn't doing anything bad
and that yeah but the difference is what he's protesting the warri but i'm backing up my reing
in prison
drussia doesn't throw their opposition in prison they don't throw journalists in jail they don't do anything authoritarian they' the nicest place to live
do you want to know about the journalists who are either silent rush if you love it so much
you want to know about the journalists who were silenced or disappeared in ukraine
like how many how many were there a good many after the lies on does it come you want to know about how the u s embassy expressed support for the ways thels like why can we like lens you shut down opposition media what early february ard i't understand he shut down the opposition media try to like understand that you're wrong
that you might be so i'm assuming you're from destiny's community right
and
yeah you are
so given how
you're like iner it behaving so irrationally
if i were to just start interrupting you're yeah yeah yeah if i we if i weant to just start e fucking like random ass fucking copium excuses ok sure i rushes i know you're from the pedal d g g community that's ok
but if i if i were to just i'm not likek they they actually all hate me there because i'm a i'm a fucking further left e than you
okay sure
but given the like how irrational you're behaving
if i were to start doing what you're doing a better communist than youyeah yeah if i was you
because you support fucking russian oligarchs you're not a communist you just pretend to be yeah you're acting like how destiny did last night butf i were to start if i were to start like
you like you're just get and now you're going to try to like
ok ok so now i think i have to mute you this is like i just have to get this in ok i muted him
so he left
ok he leughed as soon as i muted him
what i was going to say is if i started like interrupting him
and getting closer to the mike and like talking over him and shit
everyone would accuse me of being an unhinged ape who doesn't like w's just screaming and yelling the whole time
right
m so it's kind's kind of crazy like
believe it or not but this is exactly how destiny behaved last night like he kept trying to interrupt
he kept resorting to name calling he was just behaving in such an irrational way
and then when i re like retaliate
i'm the only one who gets accused of being unhinged ape or whatever like by his whole pedal community
so i just want to show you guys like the kind of hypocrisy we're dealing with
when it comes to these people
like they cannot have a rational debate about this
like they literally have to constantly interrupt you
they can't actually like rationally talk about it
yeah i know they invaded the modern day debate comments and shit i know about that
anyway
yeah it's a good example of that
you blew it
yeah this is another guy cobing so dangle dirty you want to get in my v c to
is i want to see if you can rationally do it
why did russia violate minsk to
first of all russia could never have violated minsk too
a it didn't
but be it couldn't have because it was not a signatory to minsk to
that was between the leaders of the donyetsk and lugank's republics
and the ukrainian government they were the ones who signed that
russia was not a member of those agreements
yeaw his reason for invasion is funny
it is funny
f you see reports from fox soldiers shooting a father in front of his son there's a video
no i didn't and we cannot say anything until we confirm
everything has to be confirmed the reason i follow as b is because
they have
there they seem unbiased to me because it's like they won't confirm things that are pro russian until it's confirmed and they also won't
confirm things that make ukraine look bad
unless it's confirmed
and they've retracted statements that ok we thought this was confirmed it's not
so yeah i mean
they just won't do that
you know
bas
six months
thank you h e g appreciate you
your charity to that dude won't go unnotice i don't know what you're talking about
sorry i'm just looking aut a lot of bullshit
the the institute
the problem is that most media will control with pictures or videos are disseminated
well that's the thing is that
we are especially handicapped because now russia today is banned
and presumably it's banned also from twich right
so that's the thing
we don't you know there's just kind of this blackout where
um
there's not really an ability to get any type of like
other perspectives
commentary on the origin of footage and it's also harder to report
what the russian government is saying
whether you think they're lying or not i mean it's important to know what they're saying
mink tou was signed by russian ambassador mikhail zubarov
russian ver pulled out of ukraine of the two thousanred and fourteen occupation has left toen don bas sence
violation of the agreement
i
think that russia has denied being a signatory to the minsk agreement russia minsk
agreement
as russia launched
we're going to get this as russia launched a full scale military invasion of ukraine this week president vladimir putin officially recognized the donets people's republic and the lukhanz people's republic as independent so the ukrainian government never expressed any intention to implement the minsk agreements
and said that their implementation would lead to the destruction of ukraine as a country
did you see the bas australian kid who asked these t v hosts some questions about ukraine
and those got emotional
please share it in the fact checking part of the discord or d m it to me on the twitch whispers
there is signatory to the agreement but not a party to the conflict
um i where didn't um
didn't lavrov deny russia was part of minsk
states and he said that the minsk agreement no longer exists on today i learnt with the prince we're going to talk to his borders i just remember lavrob saying that that russia was not a party to the minsk agreements
pro russian separatists however in light of multiple ceasefire violations alleged by both sides a revised mins agreement was signed on twelfth february twenty fifteen containing thirteen points couldn't sign as an observer but not bound to it i think it was something like that that it was an observer
but it wasn't bound by the minsk agreements
the agreement included an indefinite ceasefire
pulling out of heavy weaponry on both sides d
so let me actually try and find the origin of that because
yeah the it says here on the wikipedia the russian ambassador
did sign it
but why did lavrov deny that russia was am
was a member of the agreement
well on but russia did not violate the minsk agreements because pulling out of crimea
was not part of the minsk agreements moreover
ukraine never took any steps to show any willingness to implement them
russia was the one who wanted to implement them
they left people in eas ukraine because r because ukraine was not actually implementing the minsk agreements
and if you want proof of this
here cacophone i just want you to like use you as a sacrificial lamb
m
because there's multiple exams of sos you can run back to d g g and show them how rationally speaking you got blown the fuck out
and absolutely destroyed
you can't just say i yelled at you or i was irrational or whatever nonsensical here's proof that ukrainian president zelinski
incriminates the minsk agreement itself as complicit
yeah minsk one and two is in agreement between ukraine and russian separatists
not in agreement with russia that's what i was trying to say
russia was not a party to the minsk agreements that's the word it's not a party it was a signatory
but it was not a party to the agreement
ok that was between ukraine and the rebels
but moreover
the minsk zelenski claims the minsk agreement itself is complicit
um
we're going to check that in a second i just want to show you a final thing
because not a lot of people know this
not a lot of people know about the fact actually
that
here
on in january twenty twenty two alexey danilovf secretary of ukraine's
national security and defense consul said
the fulfillment of the minsk agreement means the country's destruction
when they were signed under the russian gun barrel and the german and the french watched
it was a clear for all rational people that its impossible to implement those documents so despite signing the minsk agreements ukraine did not
express any willingness
why did russia violate the one thousand nine hundred nine four budapest memorandum
even if it's true that russia violated the budapest memorandum the budapest memorandum is nullified because of the u ss sanctions against belarus in twenty thirteen
as well as the maidn coup which also can be interpreted as a form of violation of the budapest memorandum
remember the budapest memorandum did not only apply to russia it also applied to the u s
so that's not true
why would they allow russian puppet states made out of their territory
have you read the budapest memorandum yes i have and it was violated in twenty thirteen
because of the u ss sanctions against belarus
basically nullifying it
m
and as far as a russian puppets that is conerned i don't know what that means
i wouldll just ask you
why would the ukrainians sign an agreement that they would later not fulfil while they claimed they were under a russian gun barrel
while the germans and french watched
despite signing it
so if you want to talk about who violated treaties
it was not
rush
the r n u and wagner group were propping up regimes within donbas
yeat that's just not true the r n u doesn't rule dodn bass the r and u doesn't have power in don bass
they don't have any power in don bas
they fought alongside pro russian militias
but they don't have power in donbast
they helped support and force the politicians in the region
to what extent
i mean not to a really in significant extent at all
the thing about them is that they're just extreme russian orthodox
they're an extreme russian orthodox group
using neo nazis are going to be pagan right
have you seen their flag yes i have seen the flag and how it resembles the swastika
yes i don't know if they're still flying that one i think that they replaced it with a
an orthodox cross but yes i know the flag is like a swastika
the only big presence of ultraright russians was the russian orthodox army which has four thousand members
russian national unity
whiteschar reporting on the r away and r new has been going on through the donbass war
implying they are not particularly well received by don bas population or the larger separatist movements
yeah
they're not well received like they're not welcomed by the people of dawn bass or the movement
no they aren't the russian national unity movement
does have neo nazi origins so yeah they probably are neo nazis right
i don't know if they still identify with that it wouldn't surprise me if they did
but yeah you could probably say they're neo nazis of some kind
um but who knows right
there's a lot of changing political politics in russia
i mean what do they how do they how
history the r and u
they're mainly an anti immigrant group who are against
non ethnic russians
but the problem is that russian ethno nationalists are against the the
initiative for a greater russian empire because russian empire is multiethnic
they also expressed problems of being out being able to like fight along chechens and stuff
so yeah i don't think they're really representative of anything
the azlar battalion meanwhile is representative of the ukrainian forces
because of how decisive they actually are in the conflict
as well as how over represented there and they are in the government relative to their actual support
m let's check this out
sos
so this is a q and a
questioning the media's pro ukraine anti russia coverage
so this is from australia let's give it a watch
someone who comes from the russian community here in australia i've been pretty outraged by the narrative created by a media depicting the ukraine
the good guy and russia is
the bad guy i believe it or not there are a lot of russians here and around the world that support what putin is doing in the ukraine myself included
since two thousand and fourteen
the ukrainian government together with nazi groups like the azov battalion have besieged the russian populations in the dombas killing an estimated thirteen zero people kill
according to the united nations
could i finish just just just quick quickly finishing the and then we'll come to that to the panel so mk my question is you know where was your outpouring of grief and concern for those thousands of mostly russians question earlier about russia and it's been playing on my mind and sussia
people here
have been talking about family
who
are suffering and people are dying and i understand you wanted to ask you a question
about is there some reasoning for this but you supported
what's happening hearing the people are dying and can i just say i'm just not comfortable with you
being here could could you please eer about russia and outpouring of grief and concern for those thousands of mostly russians question earlier about russia and it's been playing on my mind and sussia
people here
have been talking about family
who
a suffering and people are dying and i understand you wanted to ask you a question
about is there some reasoning for this but you supported
what's happening hearing the people are dying and can i just so i'm just not comfortable with you
being hereld could you please
oh my god this is like what the
holy fox
this is literally like the sol liberal
can you i'm just not look this whole like liberal moralism and shit
this is what it fucking leads to right
i look at this pussie in my chat
hey russian royd rage how you doing how about you get in my fuck and v c little pussy
um
yeah so i just i just not really comfortable with you here can you please leave everyone fucking collapse
it is like the western world is going full nazi
they're going full nazi
um
and they're like acting like they're like righteous liberal moralists
i think you should leave
why do the whyes it trigger them so much
why does it trigger the liberals so much when this what they're trying to do to me on twitch by the way
but why does it trigger the liberals so much to be pro russian
well because for them russia reminds them of everything fucking wrong with themselves
i think d g g is like raiding us for something we have like an uptick of these pussies
literal kremlin gremlin
i you know what
job is
will you have the maturity
i mean i sorry would you have the courage
of like allowing us to hear how you sound like
where is he at
this is him he's sharing to me
so can we hear how you sound r v c
will you actually come on our v c and allow us to hear how you sound
like i want to see like the voice of the people saying all this shit like i want to know what kind of person you are
uh i'd love to know what kind of person you actually are you know like
can you actually get in my v c
and tell us what
who are these d g g mster girl viewers in my chat
what do you sound like what kind of person are you
oket one ok go ahead to get my v c we're going to do a little interview with you and see a
this is destiny's community right
um
again it's band kid humor it's you know
ha ha the uh
more like vladimir loser ha ha
ah
i think maybe there's a testosterone problem when it comes to that sense of humor i don't know what it is
a it's not
really our sense of humor
yeah it's like theater kid you
that's actually a good way of putting it theater kid humor
very much theatre kid humor
very much theater they're not normys because normys don't find that funny
normis find my sense of humor funny i call theim sid from ice age
that's funny
gate
saying like some like quirky little pw
you must be vladimir the loser that's like some s n l theatre kid humor that's not
like the majority of people don't fucking find that funny the majority of people find that cringe
it's not only cringe it's infuriating because
i just think nerds should know their place
i don't feel like we should make it a safe space for them that they left high school and now they're like
oh i i no i think you should not
have a safe space
ok
i mean ok should i appeal to their sense of humor guys
should i appeal to their sense of humor
okay guys
destiny fans i'm about to destroy destiny
ready witness the destruction of destiny ready
toy boy steve star grabt steve
ethical c p steve swastika steve s t d steve
skinny fat steve state department stephen
bridge burner bontle bitch t its bonnle low tstany cuxany soystony else toy depends to me too much methstany deadbeat da'stany
dick pick destiny
that's tiny
the rap god the logic lord the gnome from nebraska adiriral andy
iris laddies daddy
stephen the debate conceder
stephen the failed starcraft professional
pear shaped body bottle
my wife's boyfriend bonnell
kenneth the woman menace
stephen k k k kenneth bottle the second
steven i'm the green card
for my wife from sweden
stephen pump and bump bonnele
stephen incestors when sessed bontnle
stephen protesting crowd
oh god
can't say that one
stephen blue pill in the streets red pill in the sheet's bonttele
stephen the man who goes after fifteen year old fans bonnele
stephen underage nudes i know what to do bonnoll
ahh
sounds like there's a lot of lore in those names
that even i haven't looked into yet
right
nw
quote all of those people literally have no existence
except orbiting me non
ok
but just so you guys know like we can come up with endless names i mean guys come up with more names
i feel like this is the only thing that's going to like
ward these people away because this is their sense of humor
and we make it even funnier because ours are personal
his shoot is just like oh a russian city
plus like ours are actually way oh
another one
remove condumstany i like that one
remove condumstiny
that's a good one
stealthy steve is a good one too i like stealthy steve
i just came up with that one myself
i came up with that one all by myself stealthy steve
stealthy steve oh my god i actually like that one
ok stealthy steve out here ok i actually like that one
i didn't have a lot to come up with off the top of my head like
i had to come up with a
as obstiny that's a good one
yeah
but
if you guys want to know this one you want to the lord the lore about this one is is
how do we put it
how do i spin this one
stephen hansi bonnell
hansy destiny
hansy destiny
f you know the lre behind that one i just learned out about that one
but there's hansy destiny
gropes the kneed
that's an interesting one gropes the knee
is grop deny right
is gropes denee
ghost of guy know i like that one
what are your thoughts on hassan's piker's takes
i don't i'm kind of disappointed that he backed off
and he basically just like gave in to what his community wanted which was to have a lib take
i don't think hassan wants to have a lip take i think he wants to have my take
but he can't because his community is going to like
bit and wine about it
so yeah
but this is one of the few things i think assan
i think assan has a soft spot for russia
and the soviet union
and i actually don't think that's because of any i kind of sympathize with asunt because
all of us who become communists we all get a soft spot
or that soviet union like it becomes part of our ideological
learning and whatever right
so i get that
'cause assign at the end of the day
is different from his uncle
when it comes to that like oh i'm more sympathetic to like the socialism marxism stuff right
you know
yeah i mean we know it's a fake version but you get the idea like there's just this like
you know there's
ideology plays a big role in
nationalit people used to wave the french flag
who were republicans in europe in the nineteen i s eighteen hundreds
why is a song so antichon i've seen conflicting shit like
some said he's anti china others said he's not anti china whatever
but hassan definitely has to pander to the mainstream liberal consensus
but when he does get the wiggle room to wiggle out of it i think he does take the opportunity
he's not that bad on foreign policy
his worst is domestic he's not that bad on foreign policy
it's really you could ask a question the worst shit about hassan is like the truckers and all that kind of stuff
but foreign policy he is not that
bad
you can ask a question but we cannot advocate voce i should have asked you to leave then it's been playing on my mind and i'm sorry but i have to ask you to leve place on't could i not and i please i don't i join a voice chat and going to show q
and if you're a new member let me see what is your name
jabz
ok get in the show cq jabez
there some reasoning for this but you supported
what's happening hearing the people are dying and can i just on we got some dm
interesting
apparently we have some interesting d ms
this is the coch
of my dreams
matrix kids or whatever
otherwise a
i was it what do we think
tm
zero out of ten ten of the time
the slaves are too long i i'm aware of this
this is a weird o
yh that that's what a weird d m that is
am
okay let's continue this
i'm just not comfortable with you
being here could you please a job jabez is right here
i wouldn't go after him you would be banned
m
let's just say destiny's not the smartest guy
he's not as smart as you think he is
and if i ever get banned it's not gonna be because of him
so let's drag this guy up
jobz
what a bitch
your job is
job is
job is
jobs
my mike isn't working
it never works
this always happens in starcraft voice chant
i hate when this happens i can't even coordinate my resources
send resources to the starcraft reactor
mobilize all of our starcraft units
oh my god i hate wenm hippins
eight
i to smashed my keyboard
i hate this
this always happens whenever i talk to my discord kitten from d g g
oh d g g kitten
will you enlighten me about the principles
of omni liberalism
and always shilling for whatever c n n and m son b c are saying
and
trust the science
puss the science
we aspire to be democrats
and yet they don't even want us
because they consider us
ugly sweaty losers
hey he left what's going on
jobs
mm
jobs why are you leaving
h
this always happens to my set up
i hate you mom
it's all mam's fault
tithany told me i don't need parents
talk to you mom and dad
i'll go my own way just like destiny did
and i have a wife
who i share with all my mads and my discord mads
and
oh oh i'll get so many girls
i will get so many girls
just like destiny
oh destiny let me give you ten dollars
surely you'll use it
to teach me and enlighten me how i can become like you
oh oh you're saying i'm the reason destiny has any cloud or money it' is just because dumb fucks like me
watch and donate to him
and not because of anything about his personality
no that couldn't be true
destiny is my hero
this is an example of how nerves can make it to the top
and they can reach the stars
we don't always have to be band kids we can
we can become
tool streamers
you get so many curls
as long as they're willing to share of course
jrbez
no i am leaving
i can't take this abuse from mr anderthal
jobez revenge of the nerds
yow revenge for the nurse
yow revenge for revenge of the nerds
where you at
where you at
revenge is the nurds where you at
he's got no mike interesting
jobez what's going on are you nervous
don't tell me you're nervous because
were you weren't nervous typing in my chat so i don't know why you would be nervous
talking like
in my v c so what's where's this nervousness coming from come on
goaz
y
jobs i'm going to give you like five more minutes to stop being a little bitch ok
log into discord on your phone get a new mike that's going to fuck and work or something
but
this cannot run you understand this cannot run
this absolutely cannot run ok
jobez i'm not
we're not going to be tolerating this bullshit jobez we're not tolerting this bullshit we don't have all the time in the world jobez
jjos jo as jo as job as job as you are such a little bitch aren't you
i'm pretending my mike doesn't work
why will thises mike work thank you mom and dad
i told you to give me a good one for christmas
oy he's on his phone
so hopefully it should work now right
jobez
jobez
jobs
moh
three
jobez what what is the deal go in your options and fix your shit
i do not have him muted
there's no reason his microphone should not be working right now
other than
he's intentionally doing it
jobez it sounds like you are scared of confrontation
he left
jobs
jobez
jobez
i'm waiting for onen he goes hellow
hellow
andll finally can you hear me now
jobes what's wrong with your mike did the d g g are you guys broke you give a lot of money the destiny
you all broke or something
ah
i hate when this happens
i hate when this happens
i think he's muted himself or something
all right jves let's just go to this one
hello
this one doesn't work either
hello
all right this guy is certified
whos he
i got in my discore bitch
he just wasted all our time
four
's muted
i so this is a russian guy on austria australian t v who got kicked but you supported
what's happening hearing the people are dying and can i just so i'm just not comfortable with you
being here could could you pint just not comfortable
you need to leave what
so brave
so brave
it's really n i'm sorry you could ask a you could ask a question the sy oh my god
this guy is you know what
you don't i think i so cringe
it's so cringy
when boomers are trying to like appeal to
like
all the wine moms find him so charming for that they're like wow
what a great guy
what a great guy for doing this we cannot advocate bos i should have asked you to leave then it's been playing on my mind and i'm sorry but i have to ask you to lobody advocated violence ok all the fucking ukrainian military has to do is
surrender and there's no violence i don't know who's advocating violence
pse nobody's actually advocating violence
like
russia's special military operation is to stop violence
you would be advocating for violence by arguing against the special military operation
because violence was the status quo
the sun watched eclip
watching needland oh from a russian perspective assuming they did it it was brilliant and it didn't require assassinating a former spy in a foreign capital with radioactive isotope the leak if that's what it is comes as tensions rage up betwen the s and russia over ukraine
this was the new league
oh by newland
that was new i didn't even know i was new
the f word
because newland does say fuck the e u in the call here let's just fuck and watch it i'm very glad he said what he said in response
good so i don't think cleet should go into the government i don't think it's necessary i don't think it's a good idea
yeah i mean i i guess
you we never we've never listened to this i haven't listened to this ontream
two
what in terms of him not going into the government just let him sort of stay out and do his political homework so they're not talking about who they would prefer they're talking in like
a sense of like what they're going to allow and what they're going to do
so when dilon and destiny were like they were just talking about who they would prefer to be in the government no they weren't they were hand picking who's going to be in the government
based on their will
they he said just let him sort of stay out meaning she had the power
meaning do not act in this way or act in this way vice versa
this is the full tape we should watch that full tape
work and stuff i'm just thinking
in terms of sort of the process moving ahead
we want to keep the moderate democrats together the problem is going to be tony book and his guys
and you know i'm sure that's part of what yana coi is calculating on all of this
so that this isn't talking about imp like
who we would prefer i wish you would have said this in the debate
maybe jackson wanted to say it and i interrupted him
sorry jackson
but
they were not what destiny and dillonburn's was bolstered they were like oh they were just talking about their expressing their preferences no they fuckin weren't
they were literally talking about what they were going to do
leaked
on line fourth of february twenty fourtheen
what do you think
i think we're in play um the
the uh quitchcu pieces obviously
next
is there going to be likep nudity in this yeah i have to see them
i have to just make sure there's no like tous
anything
there's nothing bad in it
ok
make sure there's nothing bad in it like no dead bodies or anything
there is like
whenever i see conflict in violence
uh okay three thirty four i have to be careful okay
im go to be careful the there
ah god shit is burning
ah god shit is burning
ah godhit is burning yeah the maidant had a lot of destruction
yea i think like two o
to at to twenty i want to fucking bekre
yea here we go let's what let's watch it
what do you think
i think we're in play um the
the uh quitchco piece is obviously the complicated
electron here
um especially the announcement of him as deputy prime minister and you've seen some of my notes on the troubles in the marriage right now so we're trying to get a read really fast on where he is on this stuff but i think your argument to him which you'll need to make i think that's the next phone call we want to set up
is exactly the one you made to to yachts and i i'm glad you sort of put him on the spot on where he fits in this scenario
and i'm very glad he said what he said in response
good
so i don't think weleek should go into the government i don't think it's necessary i don't think it's a good idea
yeah i mean i i guess
you think
what
in terms of him not going into the government just let him sort of stay out and do his political homework and stuff
i'm just thinking
in terms of sort of the prop they're not talking about preferences they're talking about actions
process moving ahead
we want to keep the moderate democrats together the problem is going to be tony book and his guys
and you know i'm sure that's part of what yenacuh is calculating on all of this
i
i think yats is the guy who's got the economic experience the governing experience he's he's the guy you know what he needs is cleach and tiny book on the outside he needs to be talking to them four times a week
you know
i just think cleach going in he's going to be at that level
working for yachts and youk it's just not going to work
they literally hand picked it
eah no i think that i think that's right they literally hand picked it
good would you want us to try to set up a call with him
the next step
my understanding from that call but you tell me was that the big three were going into their own meeting
and that yachts was going to offer in that context a co a three way you know
three plus one conversation or three plus two with you
is that not how you understood it holy fuck it's like
they are these ukrainian officials are literally selling their country to the u s
it's actually sick it's like
it's almost like i'm watching porn right now it's so pornographic and sickening they're selling out there soil
they're selling out their soil to the americans
imagine how sickening imagine the lack of honor imagine how dishonoorable and sickening that is
it's like porn they're literally selling their country to the americans
it's like they're pimping ukraane out
oh
this is our uncle
don't worry about our uncle it's so dark i'm sorry this is dark
it's fogg in dark
and then the american walks in a complete foreign alien
you know
no i think i mean that's what he proposed but i think just knowing the dynamic that's been with them where um
cliitchco has been the top dog he's going to take a while to show up for whatever meeting they've got and he's probably talking to his guys at this point so
i think you
reaching out directly to him helps with i
personality management among the three and it and it gives you also a chance to
move fast on all this stuff and put us behind you
behind it
before they all sit down and he um he explains why he doesn't like it
ok good i'm happy why don't you reach out to him and see if he wants to talk before or after
ok we'll do
thanks
ok i've now written one more wrinkle for you jeff
ya
can't remember if i told you this or if i ha only told washington this that
when i talked to jeff feltman
this morning he had a new name for the un guy robert serry did i write you that this morning
yeah i saw that
he's now gotten both sary and bon ki moon to agree that sary could come in monday or tuesday
ok
so that would be great i think to help glue this thing and have the n help glue it
and you know
fuck the eu
they're having the un glu it
nw the un is an impartial international body shut the fuck up
we're going to have the un glu it
no exactly and i think we've got to do something to make it stick together because
you can be pretty sure that if it does if it does start to gain altitude the russians will
be working behind the scenes to try to torpedo it
and again the fact that this is out there right now oh why are the americans like so intently involved in ukraine
what does ukraine have to do with the americans why are they so worried about all russians this was what does that to do with anything
i'm still trying to figure out in my mind why
yanakov
that
but in the meantime there's a party of regions faction meeting going on right now and i'm sure there's a
lively argument going on in that group at this point
but uh anyway we could uh we could land jelly sit up on this one if we move fast so let me work on
h me work on klichk and if you can just keep i i think we want to try to get somebody
with an international personality to
um come out here and help to midwife this thing then the other the other issue is some kind of outreach to yanakovych but we probably regroup on that tomorrow as we see how things start to fall into place
so on that piece jeff when i wrote the note sullivans come back to me f saying you need biden and i said probably tomorrow for an at of boy and to get the deeds to stick
so guidence willing
okay great all thanks
jesus
holy fare
i think there's more isn't there
but anyway let's finish this video
o could i no no no please please please just just out of respect just no please we're not having the conversation susa we can't have people advocating violence
holy shit
this guy is such a hero
i should have asked you to leave this's been playing in my mind i want to have a proper conversation you know this reminds you of this reminds you of the time
that doctr phil brought on the guy from bum fights
and the guy showed up dressed as doctor phil and looking exactly like doctor phil
and doctor phil looked at him and he was like
you know what
i just realized what you do with your bum fights is so immoral i don't even want to interview any moore
and you know what st the fuck up dr phil you act like the reason you don't want to fuck and interview him is because of bomb fights you were already going to have him on you just got asked mad because he started fucking dressing like you
let me let me show you that one axy yout never see that clip just really quick
doctor phil
i want to show you that one
in o pair plaza
today
why not it's a hep yah youre know multimillions off the bon fis video series
i'm not surprised at my success it's the sick world
stop the tape stop theitape
i don't want
this is how you show it up
why not that's despicable
i don't want to talk to you
not such a bug ofp dr phil the only reason you're kicking him out
is be caause how you fucking he didn't you didn't you're acting so like righte is and fucking morally better should the fug mother bucker you don't care about that you only fucking mad
because he fuck in
did this
if you think if you think i exploit people
every time you bring a guest on this show you exploit them and spread
whatever the problems they have to the whole world
you think that's helping them you keep telling yourself that you can go
m
you know what who do you think you areh
five about come on
oh
no i'm not finish how can you he walked in there and he won
how could dr phil win
how could doctor phil win like
imagine trying to look
i'm sorry this is the funniest thing i've ever seen y mo
and they're all acting like the reason this happened is because he's such a despicable person
and not because he mocked dr phil
three
but
that i just watch that footage
and that is absolutely despicable no shut theup buck up you saw the footage before
and i refused to publicize clearly could not have a serious dialogue about this ridiculous topic i think what i saw
on the screen i hate that guy dr phil i hate that guy
yeah the fact that the producers
backstage sentim on stage is hilarious
but
oh got okay anyway
that's off topic but back to this
sation about these things but i have to ask you to leave i'm really sorry
i check i'm sorry for that but you know the yeah black red guard was also on dr phil
things happen it's live television you think about these things it's really been try i get on the outset i took it cold and i did not study
and i did not prepare
and i got one fifty five and that was good enough and i just didn't want to take it again
it troubling me that we can have a conversation and we can look where the arguments are and we can try to look
the sides of the argument
we can't have ha that i'm sorry it should have happen to he
this is like the most cocked shit i've ever seen in my fucking life
like
this is this is what they're doing they're censoring free speech
on the fuck you just don't care about the fucking people in the dawn the conflict didn't start with russia you fucking are like i can't i'm trying to like
are people ill informed
or
what
you know
are people just ill informed or are they like deliberately being libshit liars i think it's both
who have to censor
since the son has banned off elloseef i think dij you want to put you on there to make fun of you
making you popular oh no please don't do that
please d g g don't do that please i mean that is just
that would be the worst thing that ever happened to me is platforming me to the point where
i'll probably be like a ten k andy by fucking summer if that happens
forget three years from now
the russian federation in the world economic forum announced
the center for the forced industrial revolution in russia let's actually read this is there anything to read
nothing
but
dugan did talk about how technologists were taking over russia
why spoon invading good
national security historical claims or is it oil and natural gas
um
it is literally it's a combination of national security
and helping the people of eastern ukraine
and helping create peace in that region long lasting peace
m
but it's mainly about russia's security interests
today russia is building an economy to actively industrial soce fields as well as public administration
a
someone is in show queue
perfect
someone who wants to debate
no one is in shoque why would you focking say that
ok this guy wants to bit
the fuck do you want
what
hello
hello
here we
yeah what do you want
what do you want
yes what do you want
i cannot hear you
you you changed your mike i cod hear you before i can't hear you anymore
i can hear you now what's going on
what debate
what
do we go to china
and you live in michigan
yeah
you that guy
yeah i beat you remember
ya you bos so you want
heymn why are you speading russian propaganda what's up with that
ah
let me ask you this are you ok with russia hurting civilians
no
russia isn't either
they're killing civilians in ukraine
can you give me examples of russia expressing the intention to kill
ah
civilians
so long as there
s long as there is no intention it's completely fine right
no it's tragic but
ah it's also tragic that the ukrainian government
and ukrainian media will not report on russian warnings
that it's giving to areas that it's about to bomb
a in order for there to be proper evacuations and i'll rush
why are they bombing civilian areas though
they're not they're bombing military that's there that's go you that tark whatever it's call carkive yeah yeah yeah they're bombing areas of military and strategic importance
and they're also giving warnings before the bombings so that civilians can active can evacuate so so is something by the way that the united states never did in its
forty day bombing of baghdad
during the gulf war
so they could technically label any area as a military area and this
and proceed to bomb that area
why would they want to bomb civilians
they don't give us shit man
you know that r ok then why are they why are they implementing the strt why are they making a strategy of just
land
occupation then why don't they like just have air supremacy and just bomb the fuck out of all of ukraine
first first they're trying to win the p r war which they failed miserably now they're going all in
no they're not their strategy hasn't changed
they've only always done is rap ove
why do you keep on making excuses when they kill cpliens
you have to give me a specific case
they killed sixty civilians the other day didn't they
i can you give me the source so i can look at what you're talking about
if i give you the source we'll be call the propaganda
no i'll have to look at we sources last time i talked to you every source i gave you you called a government prob i was going to critically evaluate your source
but
you and your chat are gonna call it western propaganda
every time every time i do ok then let's look at the source and let's see what happened because i'll give you a source for example where
russia told an area in i think it was hakrkiv
to evacuate
and the ukrainian government and media did not report on it and yes five people did end up dying
there was five debts those a few days ago that i remember
hold now
there's a new york times one
it's like literally if the first source
okay
where if you google it it's like literally the f and you put it in fact checking
put it in fact chicken what do you mean
it linked it in the discord
dude i'm using my phone i'm not going to link that she i'm on my pece tell me what to google
tell me what to google google sixty civilians killed in ukraine
sixty sixty
yeah
look at your chair
hag nos mother focus
can i ask you something real quickly
i typed sixty civilians killed ukraine and i don't see anything
let me ask you can ask you something that you zlenski claims that there's a total of one hundred and thirty seven military
the civilian and military personnel
zealenski claims this is kind of crazy he's claiming
a combination of civi i think he's lying because which article which article
this is on radio free this is like a huge pro western propaganda source i have not rememberd of radio free so i don't radio free europe is literally like cia funded propaganda and they are literally saying
that according to zelenski one hundred thirty seven civilian and military personnel
oh this was the twenty fifth
sorry this is the twenty fifth of february
this is outdated
yeah you gotta pull up on new one
so
civilian casualties let me see civilian casualties in ukraine
don't you think ukraine has a right f the new york times is saying that
the reports of civilian casualties rise
but
the exact counts remain uncertain
that's what they're saying
because the situation is changing constantly
right
but according to the un
a so this was between the twenty fourth and march first according to the u n
a total of two hundred and twenty seven civilians were killed
as of
march first according to the un
do you think that's all right though killing two hundred twenty seven civilians
russia is not responsible for
they're not responsible for all of the casualties some of the casualties are in the dawn bass
where the ukrainian military shelling is actually responsib listen when usa kills innocent people hundred your hundred percent right to call them out
when russia doesn't keep it fiar you got to call them out to
hold on but the way the us
handle the iraq and afghan wars is not comparable
the u s didn't give
people in baghdad re in iraq warnings when they were about to bomb areas that are
i lead with civilians produna
yeah but russia has been actually very careful
to avoid civilian casualties
but why are they going in ukraine in the first place
well they're going into ukraine primarily this is what start is to protect the people in the dawnbass from ukrainian aggression
as well as
a neutralized the security threat posedn basss ukrainian dud
yeah but they're a separatist republic who don't want to be part of ukraine
because they change the ethnicity of the people there
they put in russians in there
that's not true they have been there for a very long time
well
when did they put in russians
a
o
around the mining
around the nineties
yh
so russis sent
russians to to
eastern ukraine in the nineteen nineties
yeah
ah how do they do that because ukraine was not part of russia at that time so how would the they just send people to immigrate there
yeah
can you have a source for this were we can look at
surse i don't have one right now but i'll send it to can you tell me where you're getting that information from
i' have read many books
can you give us an example of one of these books you've read according to which
we russian right now i don't have the book right now i don't have a book on me but i'll send it to you later for sure
okay
and it this was in a book you're saying
yup
many books
oh many i'm sorry it was many yes
okay uh
just just admit it man rushs in the wrong just admit it
i can't admit that because it's not what i believe
russia has no right to attack ugain
ukraine has the right to defend join nato i think
russia ukraine did not have a right to attack the newly recognized republics of the donyetsk and l
it was republick's
seak russia can just call everything part of new you recognize independent sovereign bullhion all right it's not going to work
b about in the issue is
you would be right
if ukraine was willing to implement the minsk agreements that it itself signed
but since it showed no willingness to agree to the minsk agreements which would have guaranteed peace
a russia had no choice but to recognize these republics to prevent
the ukrainian military
beat bullshit the state duma
claims that they had intelligence that the ukrainian military was planning on
invading eastern ukraine one day after the russian invasion the russian invadion th you really think they're going to invade frian eastern ukraine yes
no they won't man theld took that shit then why did they increase shelling and attacks against eastern ukraine while they were also saying russia was about to invade
based on b source
ah ok we can look at the ceasefire violations
ceasefire violations don bass
february nineteenth
twenty twenty
are almost thousand ceasefire violations logged in east ukraine
y nineteenth twenty twenty two
we'll never forgive we'll never forget let's go joe biden
destroy russia
so you like do you think joe bidens doing a very good job
absolutely i love that guy i'm ho was how is bid in dealing with the inflation crisis
inflation isn't onjo by that's on supply chain really yaes but don't think the increased sanctions on russia are going to increase inflation drastically
you know i speak for all americans and you when i say that we are ready for inflation
five
i don't think you do not speak for me
i seek all americans when i say we're ready
we are already b i don't i don't i don't think you speak for even a plurality of them i don't think you speak for any type of segment of americans except
the political class and maybe like billionaire elites or something billionaire stop it like how you why you why do you th thing like you and me why do you think you know real colitariy
i why do you think americans are ready for inflation
basa on the polling number sixty five percent of the people support the
issue with ukraine
we support we stand with ukraine hundred percent
what does that ok so what does that mean
that means we are ready for whatever joy decide
you're ready
wese you because the media is overwhelmingly against russia and it's being astroturped on social media
but it's sounds like americans are still unsure how the u s should respond to the invasion of ukraine mosa polls the sixty five percent of americans support the drag
so let's biden's approval actually has gone up a little bit
so let's look at five thirty eight a libshit source
liberals love swetsey
m
a one third said ukraine's problems should stay their own
not
on' imposing sanctions
a a bare majority thought this was a good idea
while twenty percent disagreed
meanwhile allowing ukraine to join nato earn the support of forty three percent of adults
forty two percent said they wanted the us to send financial aid
twenty four not incredible
you see that
we americans stand with ukraine we stand with joebii
i'm causing additional sanctions against russia you're right sixty nine percent of americans
said they were in favor according to a poll that was conducted two days prior to the invasion
only facts i don't know how reliable these polls are based on what i know on the ground but let's just say it's true
um
i don't think i don't think americans are educated about what the
why just so many they're educated about what those sanctions are going to mean for inflation
wh it com when they disagree with you their dumb ass is right the americans
yeah that tends to be the case actually oh okay
but
um
regardless that doesn't mean they're ready for inflation
they could just think that sanctions against russia aren't going to affect them in any major way
when that's not true it is right if they knew how badly it was going to affect them
maybe they would think twice about their
their a willingness to to
get on board with these sanctions
do listen
the federal reserve will take care of the inflation issue don't worry
how will the federal reserve take care of inflation
by raising incredit interest rates
absolutely
ik you
american people are ready to sacrifice everything for ukraine
i just don't think that's true i don't think
the american people are ready to sacrifice everything because you know why they don't like russians
that's america's number so we hate russians so much that we're ready to sacrifice everything for a country that has nothing to do with us at all
we respect sovereignty and international law that's hy
ok did we respect iraq sovereignty or libya sovereignty
were do alow
no
what do you mean we do now we still don't recognize any country sovereign because we're still meddling in the internal affairs almost every country in the world
n remember jobine godas oat of afghanistan never forget that
ah
you're right he did that's one thing i do agree with biden on and he did pay out of afghanistan but he also got us ca you thank you
yes or no i can't because he got us more involved in the horn of africatad now we're going to gll you ca give one credit to the guy not i can't i cannot because we just replaced it forget meddling in the horn of africa
in ethiopia and somalia instead
it's called a shababara you ever heard and actually i think ill i think i could thank trump i'll think the former president trump yeah because he is the one who signed the waight but trump is the one who signed the agreement
for america to leave by nowse putins big
well biden just followed through with the trump plan actually so i think it's it's trump i should be thinking
and i have no problem thanking the former president trump for that
well i do thuk i gt
uh okay do you think
ah biden has dealed with our foreign relations better than trump
hell yah
he's not going around bombing uranian mare
for the generals
i do agree that
biden has a relatively better policy on iran
then trump
although it's not that badk at the drone strikes lot less drone strikes under bde than was under troube
is that true
yeah look it up
drones strikes under that could be true
compared to trump trump did have to appoint the neo cons
yeah it looks like it's true u s military strikes fell fifty four percent in biden's
first year compares to trump's last
i don't think that everyone everybody in your community to join the dsa
must go
yeah but it's only been one year
and the reason that's probably happen is because
we have a lot more problems on our doorstep now i mean covid has been a big factor
and the
dud cover it is beyond joe wyens control let's yeah i don't i don't think i din't the reason for the decrease in
a drone strikes
oh
because for example don't you know that under obama
when joe biden was vice president there were more drone strikes than under trump
do you really think
oh
joe bin controls of foreign policy as a vice president you honestly be you just attributed him responsibility for the fifty four percent decrease in drone strikes president now before he was a v p
oh so obama was the problem
i'm not a wopan do you honestly believe i like a war
do you like biden and not albama
no
why is biding better than obama
obama destroyed libya
and you don't think biden would do the same thing if he was in the same shoes
jobin pulled us out of afghanistan
is there any no trump did is there any evidence that no ill no joby but trump is the one who started negotiating with the taliban to sign the agreement not take credit for what jo byd
do not give that guy the credit
why not
trump is an idiot
true even if he is an idiot he deserves credit because
factually speaking he did not go but he was but trump but trump is the one who did negotiate
a talking is one thing and action is another i thought you were a tough guy what happened
i mean the agreement was signed for them to leave in a year so
it alway is one thing in doing it a another but byd it was just implementing trump's timetable
can you stop why do all the tink you simp for rump i don't get it
a because trump was
better on foreign policy than democrats tend to moan
he was not
he was
well not
oh fuck
holy based elon musk
i might be a editor
i might be a reditor now we have breaking news from the
from el on mos coly shit what a bad ass i might just join read it
so elan mus said
starlink is told by some governments
to block russian news sources
we will not do so unless at gunpoint sorry to be a free speech absolutist
i think that is so fucking bad ass
i really think elan musk is a bad ass for that
i'm going to you know what
i'm gonna go ahead and give it up to elon because
he you know that is i got a lot of respect he you know it would be so convenient for you on
to get on board with the anti russia hate because it's being astro turf
by all of read it
and elon decided to be his own man
in say no
we're not going to block russian news sources
fuk you i'm my own man fuk the government
and faugked the imperialist war machine
thank you elan muske
i really applaud that
call it new source like
did you see r t they were like faking false flags oh wait wait wait wait wait
i have to take some kind words from elon because he said
hold strong ukraine
and who do not ok you on you kind of drop the ball but that's ok let's go lo now a l ove you i'm lost
yeah he just he just lost my sympathies temper i't like how i still like how he's not banning russian news but
you know you know he can't really be trusted what do you know
anyway
before you derail the conversation
you were talking about how joe biden was the reason for
n you said trump was better on foreign policy right
yes
what about the irani bombing the iranian general that is the cell going worst thing he's ever done
ever
what about the sanctions on china do you think that's a right to
um
no
oh
did trump engage in sanctions against china
twenty seventeen
ah sanctions china really
china brings in a lot of fightrump sanctions yes there are new sanctions
or those sanctions or tariffs
let me see
ah it was the hong kong autonomy act
and there is also the protect
ougers act
um yeah you're right
the currency manipulated the banning of wawai in z t e in twenty eighteen
yes
that is
do you agree with all that
no i completely disagree with that
ohl was trumped better than bying on foreign policy
specifically because
we didn't go to any wars under trump
but we're not finighting any war apparently someone who i trust in my chat is pretty reliable is saying that
it was pope
fu medal forty eight twelve donated five dollars
don't forget off spiting tried to free nelson yeah that's right bite and try
someone is telling me that
it was actually pelosi who forced trump to engage in sanctions
against china he didn't actually want to himself
you guys just want to blame democrats for everything right
well democrats are the ones who seem to be more interested in war nowadays than republicans
who started the wo started the war in iraq and afghanistan
remind me the neo conservative george w bush who is now friends with the democrats
because they you ho ons
the yous are best friends with democrats now
at their core theyir conservatives
no matter what i don't think they're really conservatives at all what about them is conservative
your a conservative dude
in what way
democrats are more about
not
attacking other countries
we concern but why don't why do like almost all of the wars and conflicts start under democratic regimes
like what iraq in afghanistan
no more like the war in kosovo the libya conflict the u s involvement in syria the so called arab spring interventions
oh yeah hillary clinton was also responsible those are not wards
those are not wars
those are not wars
what do you call them then
conflicts
ok they're not wars they're conflicts ok absolutely so all we have to do is change the name and it becomes fine
i never said it was right did i
no i'm just saying it doesn't it's no longer the same thing when we just change the name it's a pyramid dude there are different levels to
all right
different levels of escalation
sure
ah ya
ok sure
so
according to you democrats are more for peace
yeah definitely
uh
especially under the obama administration
definitely not
i just said i'm not a big a ier
so bill clinton was fine
bill clinton wasn't even live back then so i can't see
so we have bush obama
trump and biden
biden is the best president of all time and but the only democrat so
you're saying that
the reason you like the democrats so much is because of biden
not f because
because biden is the only example of a democrat who wants peace right
bydon has turned it around
biden has indeed so
so you're saying the situation is pretty good right now in america
absolutely
it's not way better than it was in the u
inflation's not out of control and things are doing fine is beyond the president's control let's to be honest oh so everything's fine but the things that are a problem right now
inflation is happening because of covert and insane demand
and our supply chain issues
it's beyond the president's control
all right so what so biden is responsible for everything good but everything bad is not his fault
what everything bad besides the inflation
that's not on him to
like absolutely i mean i thek there's a lot of like division still a lot of
lack of good wages and good jobs
their supply chain issues they're short beause the economy has grown this year we had like five hundred thousand new jobs
are those so when trump added jobs you guys said those are all part time jobs are these now full time good jobs instead
i'll look into it but there's data out there but i'll definitely look in and receive the data
i'll let you know when you look into it for is is
is dordash an example of the jobs that we're added
andus a gig come on then let's stop playing
apparently the jobs added were ninety percent of all the jobs lost in covert that's what someone in my chat said
i don't believe any russian propaganda in the jet
okay
yup
ah
interesting
only facts and logic thatle's what i want
no russian propaganda only facts and logic
p
one more thing can you tell you guys not to bad me all the time
you're like cock mods
h if you're getting banned it's probably because you're violating rules
all i said was
youus say did nothing wrong that's it
i don't
okay well
your cokmts band people for the smallest things
complete cox beat a else
destiny livele betomills
do you think destiny's a betaml
destiny
nice is pretty solid
hee's a short and i has a girl's name
ah interesting
so what do you think about destinies like open relationship stuff
a brother i'm muslim you know i don't i can't you don't want to you won't shave so
i can't cool so i know but that's what bydn represents so you don't want to shait you don't want to share your wife or share your girlfriend anything like that
that's what who represents
come again
biden and the democrats that's what they have in store for us
mtm is a alpha mail
destiny is a beadter
what
destiny's biden's number one advocate on this website
sure betas could support ourtss
ok but so you don't you don't who do you think is leading more of a culture of
encouraging
open relationships the democrats or the republicans
o democrats
and those are the people you support right
at the end of the day people are free to choose what they want to do with their livee
i do whatever i want to do you can do whatever you want to do so so do you think destiny's a betamil
destiny
m
with that open relationship shit yeah definitely
interesting
this is interesting these are some photos of my opponent's
interesting this is all very very interesting mean let me ask you this how come you got so personal with them the other day
oh it they never got personal i just decided to do it out of the blue
n the reason
what you said about m was out of lin though
really why was it out of line
he made like a small joke and you took it to like double ten
m
really he didn't well do you think that's because the
i
do you think that's you only made a small joke because he knows little about me or because he's a nice guy who's holding back
you just made a hrd joke and you took you like in yeah go he also you manhood and everything and his kid like come on but he also doesn't know much about me does he
i will use thatk
if i had a kid you don't think desiny would go after that whole shit and like go oh
i don't think what
histany has debated many people and he never went after their kids or anything
yeah but i think
i'm on a whole other level as far as enemies are concerned
i don't see how you does it
i don't i don't see it
i do see it and also you know that guy was not interested in debate at all you know he just took he made a mockery of the whole debate on
how cauln you say that when you were yelling for like three hours straight you can't even say that well i was just
retaliating because
he was being disrespectful in name calling from the very beginning
retaliating like you mean yelling for three hours
you're attacking kids
i wasn't attacking his kids i was attacking him as a father but that's because he made it personal first
beause he called you wat short
we what he kept interrupting calling me names being aggressive and all that kind of stuff
he kept interrupting you so you attack his kids and i din't attack his kids
i attacked him as a father
some we don't bring up other men's kids and shit in conversations
well the thing is that everything personal that destiny has ever found out about me he's tried to bring up
like what
literally everything of publicly available you just keep on saying literally everything but i've sight seen the debate he never said anything personal watch besides your height
no he said everything else too
maye be one thing he said personal other than you height
um he also tried to talk about like my sexuality and all that kind of shit
but you attacked them first
that's why he talked about it
ah well ok all i did was i was proportionate so first he attacked my height
and i pro i proportionate on i proportion hold on i proportionately attacked his body type by calling him sit from ice age
now
do you agree
do you agree
ah
t
does look like sid from ice age
ah
his body tight
don't you agree he's kind of got like a long torso
with very small infant like limbs
and it looks weird
comboard
somewhat
you're yeah there you go so it's not just me
but she took her to likeight level tent yelling phuffin and puffing for three hours straight
well i just have high energy and he's like a passive aggressive low bitch so what do you want me to do
jesus christ doed
is rinking oup complat
how could you be a face of a movement when you act like that
honestly
i can't stand the guy that's the problem i just can't fuck and stand him
at least jackson hinkle puts on a performance like
how come well how could you be a face of this movement
when you act crazy because they because i'll tell you why because we did try to debate them like civilly and normally
but
they immediately resorted to insults and derailing showing they weren't interested in debating
how could how could you call a symbol when you turn up your mike to level ten no before that had are your example for example
we pointed out how we
dylan was wrong about the impeachment of the
yanakovitch
and that yanakovych actually was unconstitutionally impeached
then dylan responded after lying about that by saying oh actually there's a debate in ukraine about its legality
and then jackson's like o how could there be a debate when it's just like black and white
a violation of their procedure for i impeachment
and what dilon said was that he's going to he's going to trust the legal scholars of ukraine
who are ad hoc justifying the post coup government
to their conclusion
and then when we laughed at him
he randomly brought up something i said about bio weapons which had nothing to do with either the debate topic
or the the issue that was under contention
so that's an example of b only targets the ethnically
a ukrainian people or something like that
the russian government expressed concern that on the chinese and russian borders the u s was being involved
in laboratories that specifically study viruses
and they also claim to have information about
the u s collecting russian d n a for these lats or the u s or ukraine
so wether
the whether they're lying or not i haven't even looked into it
and the reason i didn't look into it or prepare for is and why would why would you bring that oupen a debate
i didn't he did that's my point it's not it wasn't relevant to the debate
would dover matter
but it's just an example of how they were not willing to actually debate
substantively on the meat and potatoes of the debate also destiny decided to like
pick and sho like right when i joined that zoom call it wasn't live
immediately deat hes like ok
james can you the moderator can you can you make sure this has guid doesn't ramble the whole time
he always rambles and says things don't matter
like destiny can pick and choose
i've seen you many times before like with ahing everybody
so i know you ramble a lot
yeah but the problem is that if you're going to accuse my points of not having not being material to the conversation
um
you have to actually see you have to demonstrate that somehow you can't just say oh you're rambling and it's irrelevant you see the reason this is not relevant gal point you start yelling over them
no he starts interrupting me because he thinks he can decide
what is a point and what is not a point without actually making an argument
he thinks he can re miss what i say that'sin he thinks he can just dismiss what i say
for example dos new was asking me what are the causes of ukraine of russia's invasion of ukraine
and i very carefully explained to him
that after the recognition of the sovereignty of the donyetsk and lugonks republics by
ah
the russian government which was itself in response to an escalation of violence by the ukrainian government
because it wouldn't implement the minsk agreements to guarantee peace
russia was left with no choice so on and so on and it also wants to prevent ukraine
destiny accuse me of
of of rambling when i said this
despite the fact that that is like
every single point i just mentioned is extremely decisive
in order to logically and rationally
and justify russia's intervention
right
if i were to just say that russia only intervened
because of the dawn bas republics
there would be no wider context about the security concerns russia had been raising to the u s and the e u
a i sorry to nato and ukraine
about the talks of ukraine's ascension
that also situates that context right
meanwhile destiny he likes to like
he likes to talk long windedly as well
but when any anyone interrupts him i'm acting o so thats he gets to get destiny gets to limit who gets to talk and who doesn't get to talk why because he has more followers
is it because he's smarter than us well he has yet to prove
he's smarter than a piece of shit
he's not even smarter than like a fucking five year old child he has he has yet to prove he's smarter
then a fucking mediocre league of legends player
which is actually what he is right so he's in no position
to pick and choose when it's ok to start
insulting and interrupting
when he himself
makes long winded rambling comments
that overly like
um that's overly like uh overdress a point that's already like received like
that's ok that destiny wanted to make a point that for example
they're concerned about russa's revival of the soviet union and so ok point taken right
but then he wanted to delve into the history
of the soviet occupation of latvia and lithuania it's like it's not relevant because we already got your point
right
but he likes to ramble
and say a bunch of bullshit that's not material to the actual substantive points of contention
these are all things i can demonstrate and i can prove
it's just that destiny's a little bitch and he taps out like connor mcgregor
he taps like kitchen he goes i don't want to hear this just rambling i don't want to hear it i'm saying of hearing this
he can't actually like hear a
in actual argument
he's actually a stupid fucking person
with dunning krueger syndrome
who overestimates his own intelligence
and overestimates the level of comprehension he has
over the topics he talks about and i've proven that countless times over and over again
the minute you just start dismissing your opponent
bluffingly without actually dismantling what they've said
you've actually conceded the debate and that's why pretty much
well she absolutely every single debate i've ever had with destiny
is a debate he's conceded
because i just overwhelm him in terms of intelligence and i'm not
joking about that
call it what you want
he is unable to like point by point dismantle what i say
being louder does not mean you are a debate
the only reason i had to turn my mike volume up is because james was reducing mine
to an extremely low level relative to destiny and dillons like
to the point where you could barely hear anything i was saying
so that any time destiny wanted to interrupt me
he would be able to write so that's the only reason i fucking raise my mike volume
listen
someone who's neutral in this you look real bad
and when you're not debate you're trying to win people over done deal do deal you're not neutral though you're a fucking dsa member you're o bit in supporter and you're against russia so how can you say you're neutral
when it comes to debate i'm very open minded and neutral and i cam in very neutral trying to understand the opposing side
yeah but we talked about like why biden such a great president
and i named you all these problems on your just you in switzerland do you understand that
is what
i'm the human in switzerland
what is the humer in switzerland
i'm neutral
you' you're absolutely not neutral ok
ok why is biden the best president we've ever had
look at the jroe strikes
he pulled us he pulled us out of afghanistan
we do do i feel like you can only name one thing shouldn't there be like a few things he's done
you got us s ot of a pandemic
you know he did not get us out of a pandemic
by them is bringing world peace and we need you need to wen you you did not get us out of that pandemic dude the majority of the deaths under coveed
happened under biden's administration
as we're both in michigan you're gon to support joe byden and gretchen whitmer
absolutely not support gretchen wier
can we count down your vote real patriots needs you
what is so good about gretchen
he fought tyranny against those terrorist what tyranny
they tried to kill her they tried to kidnap her but she survived
she's a real hero
rechen was kidnapped
so so did she was she like in the back of a car
do they already planned it they planned out everyth you're saying like some random friends group
yup chump supported
they try to kill some random friends group but
we i th alays over there has you with me brother you are so a random fringe grew
had p you know there's a lot of hold on some people in my chat are saying it was an f b i plot and they were not trump supporters
there were some supporters the f b i guy was in there
charlie
pll themlm
wellthough there's a little problem though and the problem is the fact
that according to the detroit free press
m
amazing amazing amazing report according to the detroit free press there there's ader cover f b i agents that were
so two thirds were undercover f b i agents that
provoked people one gt into wanting to do this
say what
two thirds were of undercover fb i agents
who provoked people
to engage in this fort come on
they were in there getting the recipes
from the terrorists so to this day defendants in the alleged plots
and they're not calling it an alleged plot
don't know who mark and red really are the two undercover f b i agents infiltrated their group
then he be one of them but the real name has been kept secret
over the objection ok that's completely different
okay so
m but apparently they were the ones
according to the government
the defendants had made several efforts to recruit independent bombmakers and red was offered to the group in that capacity
to mitigate the likelihood of a bomb attack that's what the government is now saying
the judge's ruling is a blow to the government
who has come under fire over the alleged misbehavior of multiple f b i informants and agents
including to have been kicked off the case
um
let's actually look at that because apparently they've misbehaved
in the alleged
kidnapping of
wretched whitmer
we need you to support our great governor
forman tried to help the wimmer kidnap plot suspects according to an exposed finding a rogue undercover informant
was a double agent
secretly trying to help the plot suspect snatch the governor
tipped one man off that the feds were on to the group and tried to thwart their arrest and continue the scheme
that's really weird
i don't know tve donated five dollars tterrist is the bestes president no other president vowed to cure cancer or play desposd on state thank you so much for
yeah he you know
but has biden cured cancer yet
i'm sure he's going to get to it it's on his list probably
he's going to do everything
so do you believe that black livees matter
absolutely
well coco is saying that she's now stuck at the airport facing hostility from border force
she's had enough treatment of black people fleeing ukraine and she's saying it's disgusting
and she's so tired of being strong and she's at her breaking point
why is ukraine's government and the surrounding european countries being so racist
to black people
yes
people are racists in you
there are racial people out there you support a racist ukrainian government
the ukrainian government is not racist come onn
seems liket
you do'or
and we support governor gretchen whitmer and joe bden
so what's so what is gretchen wimer done for michigan exactly
rebuild the roads come on you know it i know it
she rebuilds he roules
she fixed i seventy five
she did not fix anything
are is worse as they've ever been
are you talking a lout motle roads
she created a socialist utopia here in michigan
you just don't know it
all right what's the socialist utopia
she fixed the infrastructure
she's funding the buses
o me what infrastructure has she fixed in michigan i seventy five
she fixed an eyes upon
she has not
these funding are universities
she's putting down the terrorist the trunmk terrorist
like from terrorists are you talk are you talking about the f b i and informants
not the tales that try to kill heer that try to destroy the capital
those guys
um
how has she done that
making sure they go to jail
do there time if you know what i mean
it's according to eleven days ago pothole season is back with a vengeance in michigan has she fixed
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our our roads
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how do you think the country could move left to a socialist youk a money less classless society if you're not willing to mobilize your community or are you just a rich communist like hassan piker why do you think we have to vote for biden no you go go mo i just it another po back in the city face the pott another tire a pot mam
more what propaganda
more russi on propaganda
what's russian propaganda
this is not in russia this is in michigan
i'm getting tired of these p i was driving one why do you think this is in russia
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you don't claim that
when did gretchen get like
well trump was controlling the federal budget at that time remember he wasn't going our roads all under the federal budget
well they get the funding from the federal government don't they
oh so biden gave more funding
and grethen wmer got the roads fixed that's whene fixed them
come on man you went out the loop
you've been following our infrastructure plans
i'm out here in lansing and i got all the information tross
what information do you got
i talked to some of the official government officials and more funding is coming joe bin bringing it in heavy forure twenty twenty four we're running everything
he is winning again in twoenty twenty four
absolutely what if he's not alive what then
he's going to be alive don't worry about it man
he's going to be alive trust me
ah ok what if he's not what then
i know he's only be life i know he's only live
how do you know that
he's taking his medication he's going to be good
yeah but no one lives forever i mean we all go we all die someday right and he's kind of getting to that age
you dez live six more years and you're good trust me
six more why six
we just need them to live for six more years
ill what if he doesn't
he will do i do you think biden is of sound mind currently
absolutely jack
aright um
are you sure about that
absolutely i'm not ablest i support that body let's go joe by all right what do you have to say about when he said this i'll be to being unable to
you're being en ables
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why did
why did biden say the hearts and minds of the iranians will never be broken
this is a o bin jo bine is currently dealing with a conflict in europe so he has a lot of a lot of things on his mind
but why was you ting about why was you talking about iranians
we're all yous going to take time
it's ok has
it's ok but i thught you just he just seems to be making a lot of these mistakes
he's dealing with a pandemic a war in europe
inflation caused by a rump
what else does he have to do
how did trump start
the uh
inflation
his weak response to coverd nine
nintey
huh
how did that cause
inflation
if we dealt with covid nineteen earlier we wouldn't have these issues
now nobody wants to wants to get a vaccine
who do you think on twitch represents the truth the most
and which are
i don't know men they're all stupid especially on soundbiker
why does this soun so stupid
he's got a full tankey
oh isn't that good
well that's not
ho's you goe i'm go thank you
i'm going to say david packman david packman
david packman
yup
do you support what he said about the palestinian cause
what do you say
he's pro israel
i think it is for a two state solution
no i think he's i know hes used to use to state solution i do't for sure hundred percent
are you sure
y
ah
i don't know are you going to answer my question though
are you going to mobilize your commutere
to vote for joe biden and grichen whatmer never
actually we might be voting red
why well i think i think if if they continue with the censorship and the republicans or the trump specifically
ah is going to help ease tho that censorship i think we would just support whoever's going to
lift these new restrictions the democrats are creating
like what restrictions
if promises if trump promises to apply the first amendment to big tech companies
and revoke this like new domestic terrorism laws
nll that kind of stuff
thld are private companies bro
yeah i think well as communists we don't want private companies to have free reign so i think we should apply
the first amendment to the private companies
and do you think the when republicans get in office they'll do that for you
i don't trust them i only think trump might do it but i don't trust the rest of the republicans so that's the problem
one of the reasons i
chump said he was going to
repeal section two thirty how come he never did it when he was in office
um
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trump said he was going to reveal section two thirty whiches
is that the free speech thing
yup
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i don't know why he didn't repeal it why didn't you
cause he's a fucking coward
he talks big that's why
what's republicans
look
i'm not saying trump's perfect i just think he's better than biden
how
you haven't isn't trump on trump on is less hostile to like he doesn't cause conflicts based on
he calls everything coming his his wim
yeah i i don't really care about that
he has done more to damage your african movement than joe biden
what movement
you're a communist aren't you a communist
no trump has done us a lot of favors with that
no he hajs got bad
brought back the red scare into the republicans no the people bringing back the red scare are the pro ukrainian anti russian
d
ok well i feel like if trump was president he wouldn't have taken away
the media license for rt america
ok
there was still propaganda thou
yeah but even if they were propaganda it's not allowed under the first amendment to just
censor people
based on having a different ideology
i'm sorry but you wt her boys jimmy doroan
jackson reinkle got to get new jobs
sorry
that's it that's all i can say on that why do you think we know it we have to get new jobs
arti is not on a cup the check
sorry it's not happening
we don't work for heartsy
your boy jackson kle was on r t with jy or i was going to go on r t to thank god i didn't do that
because twitch wouldn't ban me
i was planning on going on r t i definitely was
no
yeah i was i really was
they literally frekn lie all the time
i don't i haven't seen like a lot of examples of them lying can you point me to the there are examples of lying
they frame everything the wrong way and lie completely all the time time
so do you have any examples of that
i can't their videos got taken down from youtube so
you know
alks to suck i guess
h there i think their videos are still on you tube aren't they
uh i can ap find dom
do you remember any cases of r t lying
plenty plenty
sure point them out
i forgot but there are plentyes out there
an you point any out
there are plenty if you look for it you'll probably find one
plenty
ok actually look this up r t examples
of this information
we their role in russia's disin fromation and propaganda ecosystem
ok let's maybe this report will just give us examples this report is from the u s department of state
based let's go jo by the russian occupation of crimea
so they're going to cover the occupation of crimea
let's actually look at this let's actually look at the state department's allegations of russia's
russia today's
misinformation
let's look at this
the occreation of crimea
you go the drum so change your i will handle
denial of russian military involvement
in s lodge o bin will win you w me or what let's go hold on
r t played an important role in attempting to influence foreign audiences to support russia's invasion of
the occupation of crimea
most international media reported the kremlin's initial denials of any russian military presence
and balanced it
with coverage of credible well documented russia troop presence
well the problem is that international media is just western media it's not international media it's not indian and chinese and middle eastern media it is probably just
maybe it's alzenzeera
al jazeera is also western media
phutin says there aren't russian forces in crimea
it's on the two way rs this is the march fth russels of not occupied government buildings and surrounding ukrainian military bases on the crimean peninsula
a russians asisted he told reporters that heavily armed men were local self defense
i don't think there was evidence of a russian invasion by that time
what was the evidence of the russian invasion
we knew it was going to happen
the state department already predicted it and they were on the money
burns you cressence
russian military helicopters have been over the skies over crimea
at best that's a violation of airspace
russian trucks have been seeing move armed men to key locations
ah and the soldiers in unmarked uniform speak russian in some cases
oh they speak russian i wonder why they speak russian maybe it's because fucking crimeans speak russian
it's really stupid
right
yeah they also predicted a false flag
the russian military was in crimea since the eighteenth century
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were they in crimea after ukraine's independence in the nineteen ninety s though
h
uh ya so
russian leaders yeah so
there isn't there wasn't really a lot of evidence i mean it wasn't very clear right
phutin did finally admit there had been russian troops in crimea arti presented his statements without any context
when putin did finally admit there would russian troops in crimea let's see
so much information so much strong information the fuck up set up
a
houton ignores him
russian servicemen were in crimea
vladimir putin has acknowledged that russian troops were present in crimea before the referendum
and argued that was necessary to let crimeans make a choice
yeah but when when specifically we know they were there before the referendum
but were they there on march fourth
before the declaration of independence
the armed men in military we already knew they were there before the referendum
a were russian troops lightter acknowledge during his q and a
the president said he never concealed the fact from foreign counterparts
and explained to them that this was only to ensure the referendum on the region' status
would be carried out peacefully
s yet putin never lied about russian troops being there
before the referendum
um
dude at the end of the day brive the
brimean self defense forces were of course backed by russian servicemen
the acted very appropriately you
so they never denied russian troops were there before the referendum
they denied russian troops were there on the fourth
so what i'm guessing is that when did crimea declare independence
crimean declaration of independence
they declared independence on march eleventh
so maybe they came after march eleventh which would still be before the referendum
there is widespread defection in the ukraine's navy in crimea something like seventy five percent defected
does not surprise me
a
yup
anyway
sems
called the ust of military presence self defense forces and arti
propaganda piece posted multiple photographs of locals
posing with the soldiers accompanied with positive quotes
ok is that a lie
the outlet also reported putin's misleading claim that he had ever denied
the russian troops presence
without mentioning the fact that he had said there were no troops russian forts in crimea
he said that when
he said that at a very specific time
oh
this is n p r
he said that on the fourth of march so yes on the fourth of march he denied it
that doesn't mean they didn't later come
ok especially after they declared their independence
a review of artie's reporting on russian troop presence in ukraine
so discontent diligently yes so destiny also lied about this too
it is not clear that the russians were there before the formal declaration of independence at all
the western c ok we have to ok we kind of have to like put this debate to a halt but what is the overall thrust
what you wanted to debate about
it was mostly about the ukraine stuff
and the russian is there anything i think needs to is there anything else you need think needs to be clarified
o yay next month is ramadan can you take back what you said about the weaker muslims
no i can't
all right then you're still banned from every mosque in michigan
i don't think i am because i think
you're banned from every mosque in michigan you're on the wanted list
i don't think i'm banned because i think
most of the mosques probably agree with me
when i when i see you at crogers and sunbra
i'm playing with you
ok
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okay
anyway anything else
long live joe biden based communist joe biden
long live america communist america
long weve common ers
king of communism
and long live weakers
let's go
joe bin twenty twenty four
ok
is that it
and your moth a beino maill cox
okay anything else
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happy da
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publishing fake information
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bye bye
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looks like you can't report on real news so you have to leave
they're like ah shit they're reporting misinformation
we have to go guys
there's no way we could possibly
see here's the difference
russia criminalizes
fake in information
the us criminalizes russia today why because they're russian
i mean
presumably this also means they're going to point out what information is fake and prove it right
does the s have a method to do that
because i'm reading the report by the state department which talks about russia's propaganda
a review of artis reporting on the russian troop presence in ukraine shows its content diligently following the kremlins talking points that doesn't mean it's misinformation
russia ofuscated its role in crimea
and eastern ukraine to mitigate international reaction international reaction is western and american reaction
um so this doesn't prove anything if we're looking for meat and potatoes
of examples of lying and misinformation
we have not one example of r t lying to date
in a likely attempt to damage the reputations of the maidon
the kremls pushed the narrative that neo nazism was rampant in ukraine
which it was and i don't think any neutral party even denied that it was right
it literally was
for military invention rt began to run stories about alleged nazism in ukraine
o these stories promulgated the falsehod that ukrainians supported nazism and fascism
what was false about the stories
it's like this state department's report is just like saying
oh my god russian state media
is agreeing with the russian government oh my god
ok but the american corporate media agrees with the american government
and it's foreign policy so look why is that surprising that doesn't mean they're lying unless you want to admit you're lying
oh my god russia today doesn't toe the line of george soros
but
resta today isn't funded by private billionaires
who work on behalf of the us government's interests
what a horrible piece of misinformation and propaganda
pretty crazy right
a it's pretty crazy how russia today is being demonized this kremlin propaganda
when no one is even brought forth any evidence they've ever lied in any like significant capacity
in a way relative to what's considered acceptable by journalistic standards right
holy shit russia
russia today pushes a narrative different from the narrative on mainstream media
maybe because there's different fucking perspectives that exist in the world you dumb fuck
it because there's different
authentically different interests in the world
you ever thought about that you go know fucking tell me the only media that's allowed is the western mainstream media thank you jackson appreciate it
pretty fucking crazy
gate lindsy graham and john mccain in ukraine in december twenty sixtheen
preparing for a proxy war with russia all the way back then
then rushiy came in and stopped all from happening trump came in and stopped that all from happening
your fight is our fight
washab it buts a nationabou it
twenty seventeen will be the year of office
he cod this is nice buty but the he call enough of the
what
twenty seventeen will be the year of offens
kind of sounds like they're war mongering
you ask me
all of not that my opinion counts bus will go back to washington
and we will push the case against russia
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aggression
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pretty interesting
s remembers ns us
interesting interesting i mean wow
and trump
like fucked all of these people over
where does lindsay graham stand now in regards to trump
lindsay
maradum trumpet
is he part of the the
and he turned on trump already
lindsay graham said that trump calling putin a genius
was a mistake guys notice how i'll use western media sometimes but those people will never use r t
will any of the will the opposing side ever use r t i use mainstream media sometimes right
i use mainstream media sometimes
russians are very interested in civilian deaths
russia declares a humanitarian corridor
and a ceasefire from ten a m moscow time for the exit of civilians from maripol
and vol
novaka the problem is that in maripol the azov battalion is literally
holding people at gunpoint hostage preventing them from evacuating
preventing them from evacuating
humanitarian corridors
and exit routes agreed with the ukrainian side according to the russian
defense ministry
global affairs us nato russian ukraine in the
back checking thisscord
i should
one
nighted they're the only
like the most random video ok i'm sorry
it only has eight thousand views
what am i going to do with that
what am i going to do with that
i can't do anything with that
uh let me actually do this
i go
riuters
oh good thing this is not this information
but the problem is that
a bipartisan majority of americans think the u s should stop buying russian oil and gas
and work with nato to set up no fly zones to protect ukraines from
wow from russian airtrikes according to a reuters poll
the siapas successfully worked
russia declared ceasefire
temporary ceasefire for civilians to evacuate
check the fact checking discord
the russia ukraine crisis which a're not being told ok this is to us in it
this video may not be
the european and american public
are being systematically lied to about the ukraine crisis
in this video we're going to provide you with compelling evidence that the crimes against humanity committed in kiev earlier this year were in fact committed by the new coalition government and that officials in the eu and the united states knew full well who committed these crimes and that they are protecting and financially supporting the real criminals
on february twentieth of two thousand and thirteen the world was shocked by video footage of snipers firing on protesters
and ca have you crank
twenty one people were murdered
and it was widely assumed that president viktor yanukovych and his supporters were behind the attacks
however a phone conversation between e foreign policy chief cathy ashton and estonia's foreign minister utamas pyt which was leaked to the public on march fifth reveals
brk we didn't even talk about this
did we talk about the leaked phone call once in the debate
we didn't even mention that
what
did we mention that
b
the snipers were actually from the new coalition government
and that western diplomats knew this
and covered it up
yeah
yeah so that he has some sort of pto say trust among all this my down people and
and civil society and second what was quite disturbing
the same ol go
told that well all the evidence shows
uh the people who were killed by snipers from both sides among
policemen and people from the streets
that they were the same snipers
feeling
people from both sides
we that
so that and then she also showed me some photos h she said that has medical doctor she can you know say that
is the same same handwriting
the same type of bullets ukrainians tried to gun down sky news reporters
h new coalition that they don't want to investigate
what exactly happened so that there is
no stronger and stronger understanding
the
behind snipers they were
it was not sanokoviych but
it was somebody from the new collition
for some reason the so it wasn't yanakovitch
it was not yanukovtch
i want to vet this video for t s
one forty four russia declares a ceasefire yes a civilian corridor
for civilians to evacuate
a
was it i heard reports i was hearing from twitter that the sky news reporters were under fire from russian
from russians and that it wasn't ukrainians it was russians doing it is that true
no jackson mentioned a different phone call i think right
he mentioned newland about ya that's this is this was different this was routin an e u minister
ancesors were just the minister of estonia
peaceful activists who wanted a chance to join the european union
well yeah that's the official narrative that the u s media outlets peddling
but the real story
it's far more ominous
turns out that the most powerful and influential contingent in the opposition
is a coalition of literal fascists
and theonazis and they aren't peaceful
fact they're extremely brutal
they tried to say it with russian saboteurs on ukraine's checkpoint they didn't know who it wasun uraine
told the journalists it was the russians wow
the most prominent among these extremist groups is an organization called sfaboda
the spo bolt a party which traces its roots to the ukrainian partisan party
world war two was loosely allied with nazi germany
this is the original article about the leaked conversation
leaked call raises questions about who is behind sniper attacks in ukraine
this was a message from wednesday from estonian
so ok so let me just break this down for you jackson raised all of these arguments proving that even according to the testimony
of the snipers themselves
that they were the ones responsible
and jackson and destiny responded to this by saying
that because the ukrainian government denied
that the snipers were from their side the newly formed ukrainian government
that that means what jackson said is illegitimate
now
you put two and two together and tell me these are not people with the like
an agenda that's not beyond a reasonable person
who except a federal agent
who as like this
agenda to defend the actions of u s foreign policy
would just say something like that it doesn't even fucking make sense
why would yeah why would you say that because the uk the new the post coup ukrainian government
doesn't agree with the finding that this was the snipers was from their side
like that doesn't prove anything they have a bias this is like
basic neutral investigative reporting if someone has a
like i vested interest to
why then you have to take that into account
pretty fucking crazy
o
i
yeah apparently russia declares a corridor
so yeah
nationalist party a deliberate reference to the national socialism
of the nazis
and we're not throwing the term neo nazi around here as an empty slur
the leaders for bota only tany book has openly targeted jews and ethnic russians in ukraine for many years
in two thousand and four he was kicked out of victor yushenko's government for speech calling
and there's something new in fact checking let me check this out
this is from the rand publication
check it out
extending russia
the report examines a range of possible means to extend russia
as the twenty eighteen national defense strategy recognized the united states is currently looking at a great power competition with russia
this report seeks to define areas where the united states can compete with its own advantage
drawing out the quantitative and qualitative data from western and russian sources
this report examines russia's economic political and military vulnerabilities and anxieties
it
you know the way the us works it's like they're like these
sick fox with are like
what are russia's what's russia anxious about how can we exploit their weakness to conquer and destroy them
it's like all the cartoon villain shit that they attribute to russia is projection
this is how they fockon work
it then analyzes potential policy options to exploit them
ideologically economically geopolitically and militarily
after describing each measure this report assesses the associated benefits costs and risks
as well as likelihood that measure could be successfully implemented and actually extend russia
most of the steps covered in this report are in some sense escalatory
and would most likely prompt some russian counter escalation
some of these policies however
also might prompt adverse reactions from other u s adversaries most notably china
this is what they've been worried about old time by the ways
that could in turn stress the united states ultimately this report concludes
that the most attractive u s policy options to extend russia
the greatest benefits the eyes likelihood of success and the least risk are in economic domain
featuring a combination of boosting u s energy production and sanctions
diviting the latter a multilateral
in contrast geopolitical measures meant to bait russiaunto over extending itself and ideological measures to undermine the regime's stability carry significant risks
hold on geopolitical measures to bait russia into over extending itself i wonder what that means
i wonder what that fucking means
but enhance uus deterrence and reassure u s allies but only if youw are likely to extend russia as moscow is not seeking parity with the united states in most domains
compared to had dependent on energy exports wew what do they undermine with nord stream two
stability and durability of the regime
ah
spand u s energy production
limits
russia's economic potential
this is from the rand corporation they're literally openly saying this this is like they're openly saying that this is what they want to do
fate russia into overextending itself
ideological measures to undermine the regime's stability carry significant risks of
coun escalation
pretty fucking crazy
while nato's requirement for unanimity makes it unlikely that ukraine could gain membership in the foreseable future
washington's pushing this possibility could boost ukrainian resolve
while leading russia to redouble its efforts to forestall such a defendiment
benefits expand u s assistance to ukraine including lethal military assistance
would increase the cost to russia in both blood and treasure
of holding the donbas region
more russian aid to the separatists and additional russian troop presence
would likely be required leading to larger expenditures equipment losses and russian casualties
the latter could become quite controversial at home as it did when the soviets invaded afghanistan
they're trying to over exxtend the russian military
which means there's a high probability
that russia was baitd into intervening in ukraine
interesting
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and in two thousand and five he signed his name to an open letter to the leadership of ukraine entitled
stop the criminal activities of organized jury
and none of this this is actually the anti semitism that they were asking about
svoboda was peddling anti semitic theories
and statements about
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guys it's so fucking crazy like i've taken over the destiny read it
i've taken over the destiny read it
it's pretty crazy
a i'm all over that's read it
i've actually you know it's actually pretty crazy
what's pretty crazy is that
that i've turned this whole community of one hundred thirty six thousand people
into my orbiters
like these are all my orbiters now
they all orbits me
pretty fucking crazy
i've never seen someone like so over represented
this is got the last time this has happened was like what when hassan was on the fucking rid at this much
and i tend to do this a lot on twitter and like who just because everyone
everyone you make everyone laugh at you i don't think so i think the laughing is a coping mechanism i think i
i think i break people's bubble and i break people's world view
and they cope together and they like i unite people around
having like it's like an alcohol anonymous meaning like i unite people around
hoping about me these are my victims right
and
it was all i had to do was become a one k handy to literally make destiny my bitch
like i own his whole readit now i own everything all of this
you laugh at the stupid comments and ignorant bull s ok give me an example of one
give me an example of a stupid comon
go ahead
like nearly every single tweet in this read it is about me
every single one
reridy fucking crazy i own this dude
i do talk on i do plan on talking to russell bentley
yeah russia was damned if they did damned if they didn't
yeah
pretty fucking insane
you're you fucking insane if you ask me honestly
in general i'm claiming that's what i do in general
can
that ran report linked in fact checking is a thirty f three hundred fity four page report report
ah you want to check it indepenently at some point yeah we will check it out
you show that on this board
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guys i'm not a five hour andy i'm not
i'm not
i'm not
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i'm not a five hour andy
it's just
i am
i do have to go gs
sea tomorrow
it's just late
it's late
and i want to see batman can i see batman on h b o
i just kind of want some me time guys i'm sorry
but i didn not i di not have a lot of time to t
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just
relax you know
i've been kind of
batman suck no i heard it was good
i heard it was really good
can i see it on h b o or do i only have to see it in theaters
can i see it on h b o
we'll cover more tomorrow gys we'll have a way longer stream tomorrow
it will be on hrill in april fox
so i have to see it in theares
oke me is there any twenty four hour theatres
is there such a thing as twenty four hour theaters
is that a thing that exists
does that exist
it's only in theaters
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finish the ukraine view there's a lot more phone calls we will it's just there's t os in it
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i'll see you guys
bye bye