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2025-05-30T02:12:12+00:00
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and I'm going and What is up? What is up, y'all? How are y'all doing tonight? We have a another confront the chairman we're about to be doing. And hopefully it's going to be a good one, guys. Hopefully it's going to be a good one, guys.
Hopefully it's going to be a good one.
But anyway, guys, look, I want to, I don't know, you know,
I don't know what this, this herd mentality we got going on.
Intros are getting way too long.
You guys got to get in here faster. It's just the fact. You guys got to get in here faster.
It's just the fact. You just got to get in and wait.
Because I'll admit something.
I'll confess something.
Every time I put the intro on, I mute.
And then I just start typing and I work on my writings.
So, you know, I lose track of time, but honestly,
y'all got to do your part.
Y'all got to do your part.
Just wait.
Because you know, y'all got me in the habit of 30 minute
intros because I can do 30 minute, you know, y'all got me in the habit of 30 minute intros because I can do 30 minute, you know, y'all got me in the habit. We don't want this habit. You know, it says get the, the intros, they cut into the stream time. You know, they cut into the time we stream. You know, Y'all should get in here
fast. Get in here
quick, get in here fast.
And
hopefully this, hopefully starting
next Sunday, we're going to start streaming
earlier. This week
has been a fucking crazy week.
It's been a crazy few weeks, actually.
I've been in so many meetings, and I've been busy with so much that the streams have
gotten so late, and hopefully this is the last extremely late stream
we're going to be doing and we are going to start going back to like 8 p.m. 730 streams you know so you know?
So, you know,
get in here quick, guys.
Don't, don't, don't do this thing.
I'm gonna wait until they,
I'm gonna, I'm gonna just open it when 30, you all are the reason
this shit takes so long, you know, for real.
Um, but fuck, what a busy fucking week.
Holy shit.
Anyway, guys, we're going to start to confront the chairman
and where I'm going to be confronted by no one except
that one guy
who talks about women's genitals.
Anyway, let's
let's give it a shot
though. Let's give them a chance.
Let's give everyone a chance.
I should debate discussion Q and A
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I'm just going to start it
start your space
I'm going to go ahead and share it i'm gonna go ahead and share this space
with you guys just share my shit you know what can i say uh actually actually you should do is boost the post
because it automatically makes a post it's like post.
It's like boost it to like 300 likes and like a few thousand impressions so people see it.
I guess that's how the word gets spread.
You got to boost my here I'm gonna I'm gonna put it right here so everyone can see because you know a lot of people
they don't they don't know how to see things the right way we're gonna go ahead and put this right here.
I'm going to talk like Robert F. Kennedy for a second.
And I want you guys to basically, like, boost this post right here in particular.
You know, this one right here.
You see this? This is what you need to be boosting
uh because you know um if you don't boost it then people don't see it and then people can't
join the space so if we want to get more people to join the space then then it is necessary to, you know, to adjust my microphone volume so
everyone can hear me, everyone can hear me, all right? So this is what you, you know, my,
my, by the way, my streams are gold. This is golden, right?
Kik.com slash infrared.
But everybody should be getting in here.
You don't have to get in here if you're watching the stream,
but if you're on X, we want to catch these X people.
Mecca, by the way, if you're already watching the stream,
you don't have to join the X-Base.
We want to catch people on X.
If you're already watching, enjoy the show, you know.
But anyway, we already have one request to speak,
which is wonderful.
Their name is Renegade Paragon. Let's see what Renegade Paragon. I say, go ahead,
Renegade Paragon. What do you have to say? By the way, I need someone to co-host, so if anyone can volunteer to co-host, that'd be great.
Go ahead, Renegade Paragon. What's, what do you got to say?
What's going on?
Yo!
What the fuck?
Anyway, what's going on?
Yeah, we got a, we got a, we got a, we got a, we got a, we got a, we got a, we got a, we got a, we got a fucking idiot over here, you know, and I'm supposed to have patience with these fucking morons. I got to be like Robert F. Kennedy and basically, you know, it just, you know, and I'm supposed to have patience with these fucking morons.
I gotta be like Robert F. Kennedy and basically, you know,
just just gotta fucking explain these people are fucking stupid.
They just come on these spaces and waste everyone's time because they're fucking idiots.
I need someone to co-host.
Who can co-host?
So I can drag up these dumb fucks to come up and say their peace. Uh, is anyone available who's from the community to co-host?
Anyone at all?
Uh, we're gonna keep renegade until
you know we can have someone else co-host
and we can
because I can't see everyone who's requesting to speak
I can only see the people who can't speak
because they're fucking stupid
that's the only people that I can see the people who can't speak because they're fucking stupid.
That's the only people that I can see.
Let's see.
Let's see.
I'll, uh, Sewell is here. He's a spaces guy. I'll let him co-host. Uh, thank you, D. Giro. Thank you so much. Appreciate you. Let's bring up, um, there's a guy named Kami Killa.
Interesting.
Kami Kila.
What's, who, who, what's, what's this name?
What is this?
Yeat, what's going on?
Thank you, Yeet.
Go ahead, Kila, go ahead. Oh, sorry. I never really used this before.
Howdy, folks.
This is the Kama Kila.
Yo, am I still here?
Yes, you're if you've been here
Oh, okay, okay
So, so, uh, has, I, I wanted to ask about a
Ford that you took with like a fucking training.
Like, is that like fucking true? Like, I can share it with you a fucking training like is that like fucking true
like I can share it with you
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Shut up! Shut up!
Let shut up! Renegade. What did? Repeat what you said.
How do I share it? Like a selfie you took with a fucking trune. So I just wanted to like
Make up the matter. Like,
are you proud of this degenerate shit
or not?
It's called like basic channel
like with like one end.
Yeah, I don't remember taking
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Like they're literally fucking wild animals.
No, I don't remember taking a selfie with anyone.
But, you know, I don't hate anyone
who's transgender. I don't hate them.
You know, why should I hate them?
I have no problem with people can have whatever private life they want as long as it's legal, you know.
As long as it's lawful, you know, I personally don't care.
You know, I don't really care what background someone has.
It's not my business.
What does that do with me, right?
So you just came into this space.
Oh, you do, do, do, do, do, do, what are you even saying? What's your point? What are you even saying?
What's your point?
What are you even trying to say?
Go ahead.
I'll let you say one last thing before
before allowing the other
retard talk.
Man, fuck you. I stayed up all night and i wake up ask this question to ask this fucking question really you stayed up all night to ask this
you wasted my time man this is what you stayed up to ask really you wasted my time you wasted my time, man. This is what you stayed up to ask, really?
You wasted my time.
You wasted my time.
Did you stayed up till 5 a.m. to ask this?
Are you fucking stupid?
Get this idiot out of here.
What a fucking idiot.
Anyway, uh, Kami Killa.
Go ahead.
What do you have to say?
All right.
I'm having a real good kick out of this mega-communism.
I mean, that's got to be the funniest fucking thing, uh, some sliced bread around
you know educated people
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how do you think that that fits
in a right in a right wing
low tax
uh county and state let's start there
what county uh you don't have to tell us your county but
um well i'm from Jamaica, Queens.
You know, I've lived in it, I lived everywhere.
That's in New York.
Queens, New York?
I thought, I thought there must be a county called Jamaica Queens.
That's like somewhere in the flyover
because you don't really sound like you're from New York
but all right I mean
I travel there a lot there guy
you know and so
I just want to let your basic
listeners know a few
things you know to push the same propaganda in 2025 is a joke.
First off.
So look, I could tell by your accent.
No, shut up.
I can tell.
Shut up.
Shut up. There's no shut up, bro. No, shut up. I can tell. Shut up. Shut up.
There's no shut up, bro.
Yeah, there is.
Yeah, there is.
No, listen, no such thing as another service of another person's labor is a right.
That's called slavery.
Okay.
Okay.
So is doing your dishes slavery when you, when you are living under your parents' roof?
Making other people do it?
Yes.
So if your parents and your, if you're yes so if your parents
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do the dishes
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can you answer the question
no first off the whole premise can you answer the question? Can you answer the question?
No, first off, the whole premise of communism. Can you answer the question?
Bro, you're bringing up dishes.
Yeah, I am.
There's no such thing as far-right government.
That's called no government.
Power only works two ways, to the people or not.
When you have communism, you are relying on the government to come and give you certain rights because their basic human rights, quote, unquote, right? Right? No. What do you mean no?
Comedy killer.
Can you,
shut up and be nice.
I'm a big asshole.
If we want to be an asshole,
I could be a worse asshole.
So why don't you be nice? I highly doubt it.
I highly,
I'm a way,
I'm a way worse asshole than you,
I promise.
So you can flex your government education.
If you think yelling at people and telling them to shut up,
works for you on a daily basis,
and your fake one-year-old club is laughable.
Well,
Democrats.
Because I could already tell you simmer on you. Democrats. Is that got a ready to tell you simmering down?
Communist Control Act of 1954 makes it absolutely illegal for communism here in the United States.
We are a constitutional republic, not a democracy.
What is your problem with communism? What's your issue?
It's laziness.
Why?
You don't even know, understand the premise of it.
How is it laziness?
Just explain and light of us. How is it laziness? Just explain and lightness.
Okay.
See, the reason why you're trying
to milk on to the right
with the leftist ideology.
I'm not milking anything. I'm asking you a question.
Why is it lazyness?
Well, you're trying to be relevant with, you know, this whole
mega-communism.
You know, like I said,
low tax,
you know, I read some of your things on your
globalists. That's all you are. There's nothing local about, you know, nuclear plans in Iran and, you know, you think
people in the Cuba and Congo are like, you know, I'm fighting for the, uh, Illinois worker,
you know, you're
globalist. There's no fucking
difference. You know, a
communist will always back
the oppressor. You know,
no matter where they are, it's an
ideology. It has nothing to do
with your community
you know the premise of any time
what do you do for a living what do you do for a living
well
I'm certified Harley Davis technician
I've been a
union
uh
uh uh
sheet metal guy most of my life
you know
I've been it like I said I've lived all over the world
you know all over the country
mainly so how am I a globalist
when you've lived all around the world?
Bro, do you realize that they opened up
all the borders?
Like, like...
So who's the globalist?
We just said you lived all around the world.
The actual socialist
right now
just seceded for cheap slave
labor again, forever
silencing the less than
7% black vote
and reservation. And you're talking
about some motherfucker in
the Congo
when you know now we don't have a voice for the reservations here
because you're a commie cosplayer
thinking about
you know anything but the localities
you know and I'll say it's
it's a right wing
low tax
can I can I make you a promise
what
you want to hear it
I mean
Democrats you know
you don't want to hear it you just want to hear
no well I'm I mean do you want to hear me actually respond or no or don't want to hear it. You just want to hear it. No, I mean,
I'll listen to hear me actually respond or no.
Or do you want to just hear your own voice?
Well,
I'm listening.
I mean,
I do this for a living.
Okay.
So my promise to you is I'll stop talking about the fucking Congo
when our taxes and our military
stops fucking going over there and getting
us wrapped in a bunch of bullshit all the fucking time
it's going to bring the world to nuclear war
how about that I'll fucking stop talking
about it we stop getting fucking roped into it
agreed but you got a good deal you gotta I'll fucking stop talking about it. We stop getting fucking roped into it.
Agreed.
Good deal?
You got a little.
Good deal?
I mean.
Because there's a lot of suckers.
A lot of them have your same mentality.
They wake up every, they wake up at 5 a.m. every morning.
And they go online spreading bullshit propaganda about random countries whether it's Haiti
whether it's in Africa, whether it's in the Middle East,
whether it's Russia, just to build
consensus for us to fucking bomb them and go to war with them and destroy
a room around country. But starting a fake
communist party. So it so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so,
I got to fight this dumb propaganda for as long as there's dumb people, using it as a fucking
pretext to get us broke in a bunch of bullshit.
We are a constitutional republic and not a democracy.
Therefore, communism would never work here because our government is made by 50 states to make the federal government.
No other place does that exist in the world where you could get away
with pushing because we have a constitutional republic. Do we? Communist Control Act of 1954. Can I ask you a
question? Do we have a constitutional republic?
No, but here's the thing.
Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Sorry, I don't mean to rain my voice.
I heard you yapped for five minutes about how we're a constitutional republic.
For the first time I ask you if we're a constitutional republic, you say no.
I want to know what's going on.
So I'm going to unmute you and allow you to clarify what you mean.
Go ahead. Unmute yourself and explain how we're not a constitutional republic, because you just said we were.
I'm trying to say what you did to me.
All right, here we go.
The whole point, the premise of Arna, and like just to back up, this goes back to
to propaganda. See,
it's left this ideology.
Socialists
just as seated for
cheap slave labor again.
Socialists were the ones that
forced vaxed us and made our grandparents die alone. Socialists were the ones that forced Vaxed us and made our grandpans die alone.
Socialists are the ones outside
you know
forced speech, forced business closures, censorship,
gun bans, jailing political opponents.
You know, like, that's how things work.
Can I ask you a question?
Shoot.
I got one, too, for you.
All right, I'll let you ask one.
Who's funding these socialists?
Where do they get their money from?
Jews.
From what?
You know, I mean, you really got it, you know, I know, I know, yeah, you're very anti-Zionist.
And that's probably the closest thing that you have to the truth on your page, you know.
So,
you got to realize.
So it's,
all right,
all right.
Even if,
even if I were to entertain this, right,
and say it's just Jews.
There's nothing to entertain.
Oh, yeah, hold on, no, no, no.
Hold on.
Can you let me finish?
Can you let me finish?
Let's pretend they're getting their money from Jews.
I have a basic history. I have a basic history. I have a basic history. Why do we don getting their money from Jews. I have a basic history.
I have a basic history.
We don't want to hear your history lesson yet.
No, I have a history question.
I want your credibility.
I want your credibility here.
What year was the quote unquote party switch?
I mean,
if we could get 60 years ago, right, we can most
certainly get 300 and, you know,
everything before Karl Marx and all that.
You know, like, if we're going to, let's get 60
years right before we start talking about our
Constitution. So, I mean, like,
what year was the, quote, unquote, party
switch? Let's start with the basics.
You know, and let's fly, let's
prove why the left
opposes school choice
and kids are stuck and trapped.
Why do you have a...
Listen, listen, listen, I'm going to mute you
because you're rambling.
What concretely is your
problem with the American communists,
which is us?
You said that there's a bunch of people
who forced the Vax and all this shit.
You called them socialists.
Even if they were socialists,
where'd they get their money?
I asked you. You said it's jews
do jews just shit gold
are they just magical uh uh
uh lepracons at the end of the rainbow they just have a pot of gold they just shit it out
no they get their fucking money, whether they're Jews
or not Jews. The people
who have the money to fund anything in politics
get it from being members of the
capitalist class, from owning the means of production,
from owning the capital.
That's the thing you're avoiding.
You're blaming socialists, but at best, these socialists like AOC and Hassan Piker and all the rest, they are sellouts to the capitalist class, and that's all they are.
It's really the capitalist class that's bankrolling all this. You're blaming communists for what?
You sound like a dummy. I'm going to unmute you. Go ahead. You're unmuted.
Just because you say you're communist doesn't mean you're communist.
AOC and Bernie Sanders spent his honeymoon in the USSR and has Burlington, Vermont, stationed with Russia.
I mean, you Hillary, you know, sold them uranium after the Cold War.
That's fine, but every single person you just mentioned is a whore of the capitalist
class.
You know,
they're the one,
half your little comrades in there are so far up China's ass.
Oh,
we're Russians,
you know?
Like, your followers Russians, you know? Like, your followers
are, you know, are so
uneducated, and most of them
around the world, they don't even know that it's
fucking treason here to be
a communist. You know, because
slavery is illegal.
No service of another person's labor is a right.
I agree.
I agree.
Do you want to know what the communists think about that or no?
Can the communists think about that or no can the communists speak for
themselves
I mean
of course you can
but that's not communism
well it doesn't work that way
well sir it does
because I'll tell you what the Communist Party is doing.
The Communist Party is standing up for truckers at the ports in this country who are working as slaves for free for hours on end at these ports, not getting paid to do it.
All because they need to somehow make a living,
having to work hours and hours for free
just to get a chance to get paid
for the few hours that they are paid.
So you tell me, you tell me
how that slavery gets ended
You tell me
You tell me
You tell me, you tell me, shut out for a second
You tell me
Your house, your job
You know, all your things
And you want it like
This, this happened all over the world.
I mean, where the fuck have you been?
The borders have opened all over the world.
And this is communism slash goal.
I'm going to, you're rambling.
I have to correct you, you're rambling. Can I tell you something sad about what I'm gonna, you're rambling. I have to correct you,
you're rambling.
Can I tell you something sad
about what I'm hearing,
sir?
I'll just give you the sad truth
because I'm not here
to cut it to you
in a nice and sweet way.
I'm here to give you
the cold, hard truth
because that's what you need in your
life. This path you're on, you may be too far gone, you may not be. You know what you're going to
end up as? A tweaker on the sidewalk. You're going to be a sidewalk tweaker who just jumbles and rambles and gibbers nonsense
while you're drunk. You sound like a drunk sidewalk tweaker. That's what you sound like right now.
And the reason is you sound that way is because you've isolated yourself from the world, you've isolated yourself from everyone,
and you think you know it all, and everyone else is a piece of shit, and you isolate yourself.
Because only you can be trusted. You don't trust any other human being, right?
So you're going to end up as a sidewalk tweaker on the street
shitting your pants in front of the world.
And the saddest part of all,
if you come from the background you say you do that you're a union worker,
that you're a technician for motorcycles and you were working metal sheets and whatnot,
one of the only places in this country where you would find comrades, where you would find people that have your back
people that would actually go out of their way to help you if you needed it would be our
communist party and you your name you should feel ashamed to yourself to honest. I'm not here to shame you.
I just want you to feel that way.
Your name is Kami Killa.
You know, if you were ever in need and you asked us,
your community was in need,
us communists would be the ones going down and making a difference if you were working at your
workplace and your boss was treating you poorly and unjustly who would have your back you think these
right wing schizophrenic retards are going to have your back and show out for you and give you that solidarity?
You think that these dumb fucks watching bitch shoot documentaries that you talk to, these tweakers that are on crack cocaine all the time? You think they're going to have your back?
No, it's the fucking Communist Party that I have your back.
So take some time to reflect on what that means.
You created a whole identity based on hating communists
without even talking to them or caring to educate yourself about their perspective.
And no, get it. I get it. There's a lot of people that are calling themselves left and they're
calling themselves socialists that are just about, you know, like demons spawn straight out of hell.
But I'm on my honor telling you what me and all my other comrades know for fact
that all these people are fucking sellouts
that are on the payroll of the capitalist class
and the reason
we are as isolated as we are,
is because we didn't sell out,
and we actually are fucking communists.
So that's the situation
that you're dealing with here.
And this is the Communist Party
you are now here confronting
the fucking real ones who never sold out
who are actual fucking communists
so let me give you that introduction
before you start going on your spiels
and rambling and gibbering in the way you are
go ahead
I mean and rambling and jibbering in the way you are. Go ahead.
I mean, that was beautiful, you know, especially the part where you, like, predicting, you know, where I'll be. As if, like I said, I lived in left-wing Marxist ideology.
I grew up there.
And everybody's fleeing those cities in mass, exodus.
Where'd you grow up?
Jamaica Queens, bro.
Jamaica Queens was at no point in fucking history a Marxist communist society.
All right?
Get your head out of your fucking ass and wake up to reality.
It's leftist ideology.
Again, no, it's capitalist, it is capitalist liberal ideology.
You can never understand why you're the first to the gulag every fucking time.
You could talk that sweet game, but doesn't mean people of faith put any faith in other men.
Because as much as you can say what you will do and this and that, the truth is, any civilization, over 500 people
the strong always take control
of the weak
it's fucking history
so by your own logic
all these people that you think are bad
who are in power they are the strong
and you are the weak so why bitch
are you complaining? Not at all why bitch? No, not at all.
Why are you coming on my space and bitching about nature?
Most of your comrades here are
according to you. Most of your comrades here are in other fucking
countries. Like, you know, you're trying to
steal communism from
the left and paint it and give it to the
right. When meanwhile, no person
on the right would even give a
communist time of the right. Didn't I
just tell you that all these people on the right
or a bunch of how it only
works two power only works two ways far right government is no government okay that yes that that
so no government that's what you you you propose no government. No, I'm a 1776 motherfucker.
No, you fucking are. I stand on the constitution. If you were a 1776 motherfucker, you would go to acp.us slash join.
Yeah, all fucking join us. A commie cosplay. My founding fathers
hated communism. Your founding fathers are
fucking dead and meanwhile the capitalist class is destroying our
constitution and taking over our republic. So who the fuck are
you sitting here calling yourself
Kami Killa when your real enemies are the capitalist
class if you care about our republic?
Capitalist class.
Brother, bro, no, like, nothing is stopping you from being a good one of the way.
Why are you yelling at me and not Bill Gates from why are you yelling at me
and not bill gates why are you yell at me
and not i do
no you fucking don't you're here
attacking the chairman of the communist party
you know every every right
winger looks at a communist
you know and it's just like mega-communism.
It's just like, I can't, the ideologies, like, don't even work.
The point of communism is, you know, to fulfill the needs.
The common good. The common good. The common man. The common prosperity. But, you know, when does it stop? Communists, you know, when did it stop? You got to fight for everybody, man. You got to fight for everybody. You know, those low tax...
No, you fight, you fight, you fight, you fight for our country.
And then you want to fight for the world.
No, you got to fight locally.
You have to first take care of your own house first.
Community.
Communism is your community.
All right.
But like I...
What's wrong with that?
What's wrong with taking care of your community?
Prove it.
You know?
And like,
that's the whole thing.
What?
I said, what is wrong with it? I didn't, what do you mean fucking prove it? I said, what is wrong with it?
I didn't,
what do you mean,
fucking prove it?
I asked you,
what is wrong
with taking care of your community?
Go ahead, sir.
I just unmuted you.
Go ahead and speak.
Are you drunk? Yes or no? Are you drunk? Yes or no?
Are you drunk? Yes or no? Unmute yourself.
Bro, I've been sober for 13 years. Good. Congratulations. Does this usually work for you? I mean, like, do you try to...
Your name is literally Kammykiller. You've been nothing but disrespectful this whole
time. Because it's treason
here in the United States, motherfucker.
What the fuck
are you talking about? You sound crazy.
Communist Control Act of
1954. You better register
your club. And the and and the
fucking
bullshit
and
tar and feather
act of
1776
it doesn't
fucking matter
our government
is occupied
by a bunch
of fucking
oligarchs
in Wall
Street
and while
all around
the fucking
world Wall Street the city of London why the fuck are you talking about some fucking law in 1956 or 54 when we don't even have a republic anymore? And it's just a total fucking dictatorship of a deep state capitalist class.
You sound like it's not a capitalist, you motherfucker.
Call it whatever the fuck you want, but we communists have no part in it.
Well, you better start picking your words right, God damn it, because...
We've got no goddamn part in it.
Capitalism is what makes, you know, supply and demand.
That's, you know, that's, that's, that's capitalism.
You know, you could start your own business, be a good boss.
You know, you could get, you.
So why haven't you done that? Why are you still working for someone else? Why haven't you done it yourself? I have my own company. You know, I'm a certified Harley Davis technician. I fix bikes on my side. This is what I choose to do with my life.
You know, there's, you know, there's nothing you could say, you know, say like, oh, well, this is going to be you. This, you know, I've lived this. Like, you know, some of us have spent decades.
You sound like a goddamn raving lunatic
attacking communists and attacking people
who wish you no harm.
Who did you think ushered in this globalism?
I just find it hilarious that...
The fucking Rockefeller's in the capitalists
who I don't know what to tell you.
Bro. These were the people who had the grand
vision for the global system
the global system where the U.S.
would have dollar hegemony
and it would Bretton Woods all this shit
it all comes from the capitalist class
you should look.
The Rockefell's, okay.
And, you know, J.P. Morgan.
Yeah.
Yeah. Literally.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Those aren't capitalists.
Okay.
Let's talk about the... Listen, listen, buddy, buddy, you can use whatever words you want.
I just want to know one thing. I just want to know one thing.
No, no, no. I use whatever goddamn words you want, right?
What year did the Fed start?
Listen, you can use whatever God...
You can use whatever goddamn words you want, but at the end of the day, I want to ask you one question.
Language is important.
How will the American people rise up and restore justice without the working class pooling together their resources and challenging those that have a monopoly and own our wealth. Because if you own our wealth, if you own the factories and you own the land and you own the natural wealth and the oil, if you own all those things, you do whatever the fuck you want.
Currently the people that own all that shit are at war with the American people.
So the only way to restore justice is if the working class pulls together their own power
which is all they own is their own labor, right?
They pull together their own power
and
they overthrow this capital or this
you don't like the word capitalists, this
this uh, this uh, this, um,
the property owning class, whatever you want to call it.
So what's your alternative?
What's your alternative?
What's your alternative?
Well, globalists responded to that fight with tens of millions of foreigners in every country and all these capitalists
to cheap and slaves labor.
It doesn't matter how many foreigners they import.
As long as the workers
that are here now come
together and unite,
there's no mountain they can't climb
now you tell me something else
you tell me that you
let's put
things in perspective okay
Obama deported
5 million people in 8 years
that's 1,800 people
a day. Globalists
led in 20 plus
million in the past 4.
Just for us to get back
to pre-Biden
is over
15,000 plus people a day deportation.
So what is your solution?
So they eat the rich crowd just got eaten.
I just want you to know that.
So what is your solution?
What's your solution?
Well, first off, mass deportations, you know...
You're not going to deport 20 million people. It's not happening, I promise.
Well, that's why this, that's why this country is gone.
And that's why...
So you have no solution. You see the denialists. You got nothing. You gave up.
So you couldn't you off. You got nothing. You gave up. So you cut me off.
You know, did I say that?
Did I say that?
You know, no idea.
So what's your damn solution?
You know, pretending that, you know, and I have nothing wrong.
Like every communist, you know, in history.
Their heart means well.
But, you know, there's going to be people that use that, you know, for their own demise.
And it's just no form of government life That's everything That's everything All right
Well I want to go back
To what
What caused this
You know
No I want to go
I want to go
No the solution
I want your solution
Sir
What's your solution
The solution
No
You got to know
The problem
Before you figure out how to fix it.
No, I want to know your solution. No, no, that's how it works. That's how it works.
No, it, it don't work that way, sir. I could, I could give you a five-hour lecture.
I could give you a five-hour lecture about how I think the system works, and we don't
have time for that.
So tell me what your solution is.
Well, I'll send you, I'll send your followers on a rabbit.
Okay, so give me your solution.
Who sunk the Titanic?
And what was the purpose of that for because that's what started you brought up the Rockefeller
buddy buddy what is your damn solution
you brought up the right what is your damn solution
to the problem
not not leaching not being a comedy not being a comedy cosplayer What is your damn solution to the problem?
Not being a commie cosplayer for starters. Okay, so your
solution is doing nothing.
No. Do I have you right?
I just gave you a damn solution. It's about the workers
uniting. What's your solution?
I just find it funny that you... I don't give a fuck about what you find funny. I'm asking for
your solution, sir. This country needs solutions. People of this country need solutions
or else this country has no future, what is your solution to the
fucking problem? Give it to me. And somehow, you think somehow workers united somehow makes
you like high in this, in this argument. Somehow I don't, I'm not claiming to be high, low, medium, or anywhere in between.
I just gave you my, I just gave you what I think in my humble opinion is the only strategy to actually confront the powers that be.
What's yours?
Give me yours.
The middle class is the right wing.
I don't give a damn about these labels.
What is your solution to the problem?
Sir, what is your solution? That's the only reason why you could talk to Maga.
God damn.
What is your solution?
You know, not starting
a fake comedy club.
Not starting a fake comedy club
that'll get people in trouble, you know,
for... Sir, I don't know who you are.
If you met us communists,
you wouldn't have an issue with us. know that's the sad thing you're just
a keyboard warrior who hates us from afar but if you knew who we were if you knew about the work we
do you would not have this you would not be talking this smack that you're talking you would
tip your hat to us
and bow your head in respect. What the hell is your problem? We're just a bunch of people trying to
improve our country and here you are with no solutions at all to the problems you talk about,
throwing dirt on us.
It kind of sounds like you just want to lose
and you just want to be defeated.
Now give me your solution to prove me wrong.
Go ahead. I have trouble. I got a big thumb.
That's silly little mic button.
It's more than that and I hear the
sincerity in your
there's no doubt in my mind that you
yourself and all your people want to do
the right thing.
And like anybody who's against communism pretty much knows that. And who's the
underliers and who are the people that ruin the movement.
And, you know,
it's just, you know,
it's just beyond, you know, it's just beyond,
you know, all your answers you think are in some
propaganda book that you could find
that's over a hundred years old.
No, that's not true.
That's not what we think at all.
You know, look, you know, look,
can I call you a name?
Do you have a name I could call you?
Because I don't want to keep calling you Kami Killa.
Can I call you any kind of other name?
Call me Bob.
All right, Bob.
So listen, Bob.
I'm going to just tell you the truth.
Among communists, people that call themselves communists
and people that call themselves socialists there's a lot of rotten nasty people just like any
other group of human beings that's the truth among christians there's a lot of rotten nasty
people a lot any label you name it there's a bunch of rotten nasty people. A lot. Any label, you name it,
there's a bunch of rotten,
evil, nasty people, right?
Agreed.
Agreed.
Right.
Absolutely.
So instead of painting us all
in one brush and saying
you're all rotten and nasty
because there's AOC
and all these rotten nasty people,
why don't you understand that we're trying to fight for the good?
We are the ones who are fighting for the right path and for the right thing.
And these sellouts that have sold out to capitalists and have sold out to the wealthy
moneyed elite, these people have no principles. And they're supposed to. to capitalists and have sold out to the wealthy money elite.
These people have no principles, and they're some of our biggest...
It's bankers, buddy.
It's just bankers.
Call them bankers, call them what you want.
But these people, we don't even go to war with them.
They attack us.
And we're out here
holding out fighting
for good,
and you're sitting there
saying, no,
it's all a lost cause.
Everything is going to do that.
Bro,
I,
I,
I,
I, I,
I, I've been dealing with communists. Like, again,
I grew up in a leftist,
you know,
city and state.
You know,
communist had you to throw...
You want to know why leftists
have the power.
Communists do you want to know why leftists?
You want to know why leftists have the power that they do?
Do you pretend to have in this club right now?
Do you want to know why leftists have the power that they do?
Oh, absolutely.
They have the power that they do because there's a grain of truth and what they say and what they believe.
That's why they have the power that they do. They manipulate the good fact, the bad rotten ones at least.
They manipulate the fact that human beings, we do want justice. We do want to put an end to the oppression of the people in this country, right?
But a lot of the bad, corrupt ones, they take that, they manipulate it, and they turn it into a way to abuse other people.
That doesn't mean you give up on the good cause,
the good leperling cause.
That doesn't mean you
go to the right and give up on the
whole thing. It means you stand
your ground, you fight for what's right.
Fight for what's good.
Every government gets infiltrated.
That's true. You know what? That's exactly correct.
And you know what that means? That means it's the responsibility of anyone, of anyone whatsoever
who wants to fight. Let's not lift this
ideology. Yes, it is. Yeah,
you're right. Every government gets
infiltrated. That's absolutely true. Every
government gets infiltrated.
Which is right, it's incumbent,
which is why I finish,
which is why, let me finish,
it's incumbent upon anyone
fighting for justice and fighting for what's
right to fight
those infiltrators and never lose
their vigilance and never ever stop
fighting for the right thing.
And it's always going to be a fight.
And this is where before you go on,
and so I agree with a lot,
what you just said.
But again,
you,
for your listeners and all,
you know,
all these quote unquote communists,
like when you look at a candidate,
you know,
power only works two ways.
Powers either be putting towards the government or power is going to be put to the people.
There's only one party right now putting power to the states, aka the people.
And that's the right. And that's the right.
And that's the way it's always going to be.
The states are not the people. The states are bought and sold and paid for.
They're all owned.
Oh, no. See, now, this is, we are a constitutional republic.
This is why I just said we're not.
You just said we're not a constitutional republic.
You think only the federal government is captured?
The states are just...
They're even worse. They're corrupt.
They're owned by all these tycoons and people, the money to lead.
They control everything in the states.
I live in Michigan.
Agreed.
Hey, hey, I live in Michigan. I live in Michigan.
You think Greta and Whitmer, Gretchen Whitmer is only here because the federal government put her there? No, it's not the federal government that put her here. It's all the money elites that live here in Michigan that made sure she's the governor right here.
Well, absolutely.
But you know, but you got to realize that the power only goes one way.
And like this, the left,
aka, you know,
you know, I hate to say, you know,
communists, you know, they love, you know, attacking
education because, you know, you got indoctrinated.
You can't really, you know, I've been
knocking communists down.
You know, about 15 of your guys blocked me this week
because none of them can answer basic questions.
And they said, you know, the cons, you know,
you're going to re-educate me.
You know, about 15 people left it on you
to re-educate me today.
And it's just like...
What if I told you the only way...
That's so blind.
The only way to give...
The only way to give power to the people...
They can't understand the simple power structure.
Well, no. Maybe they just have jobs and they don't have time.
But let me tell you the truth.
The only way you can do.
Oh, yeah, I'm sure that's it.
That's absolutely true.
I know my people.
They're hard workers.
Anyway, look.
And they're in low tax, right wing,, low government, everything opposite that Mark stood for because, you know, like again, the government to guarantee these things.
You've got it all twisted. You've got it all twisted. You've got it all twisted
you've got it all twisted you got it all wrong
the only way to give power
back to the people
is if you have power
you got to take power away
from the elites
before you can give it back to the people
and the only way you take power
away from and they
answered that call worldwide
with wide open borders
and tens of millions of people
now here are quote
unquote eating the rich I just find millions of people now here are quote unquote
eating the rich
I just find it funny
people thought that that would be them
people thought it would be them
that was cute 90% of the people don't eat
three square meals a day
and you know, fleeing communism
walked a thousand miles to be
here. You know, but...
You know, look, the only people fleeing
communism that are coming here
are the people whose countries were ruined and devastated
because we are trying to destroy
those countries at all costs
and keep them down just like Cuba.
My dog exercises more rights than any Chinese.
You know?
You've got it so full of shit
and backward. It's crazy.
You've lived in a topsy-turvy world
that's totally upside down. Are you
kidding? Like, Chinese
slave labor. You know, they've been
stealing our patents for the past
decades. You have no idea
what's going on in China. China
is surpassing us. Their
middle class lives way better
than they eat better.
They steal all our intellectual
property rights. You can't sue them.
Even if that was true, which is not.
Who gives a damn by intellectual property?
That is a damn by the election.
That is a fact, sir.
You, listen, who gives a damn about intellectual property?
Because I don't.
And you're here talking about China.
They're laughing at you, sir.
They're living fine in China.
You're out here with your 80 proof,
you know,
rambling.
You're attacking China
when the enemy's at home.
Why is that, sir?
Go ahead.
You know, I mean, they're here. I mean, are you, are you kidding me? I mean, Gavin Newsom just flew CCP flags in California and hit his homeless.
I mean, you know, that is probably the most absurd thing.
Again, giving them credit for stealing our intellect.
We grow their own food.
What the hell do you mean our?
What do you mean out?
We benefit from it.
The intellectual property, you mean the intellectual property that's owned by the big
companies and corporations that the average citizen like you and I, we can't have that
intellectual price
not ours don't say it's ours
have you ever tried to start a patent
I have I can't you and
I couldn't make an iPhone
because of that one guy
which is hey look because of
that one Tim Cook I can't make an iPhone in my garage.
They'll put me in jail because I stole it their intellectual property.
How is it ours?
They still, you could come up with something right now in your basement.
You yourself. Awesome.
You could put all the
R&D. You could, no, don't tell me no. People do it all the time.
No. You know, you could put the R&D
and put all the time in and you can let it hit the market.
Nope. No such thing. All China has to do is see it.
All China has to do is see it where they don't follow any patent law in all of the EU, all of the world.
They have Chinese kids.
Sir, can you, can you, can you, can you put your mask back on?
Because you sound like a triple, quadruple, vaxed mat.
You sound like a mask wearer.
Are you wearing a mask right now?
You sound muffled under that mask.
Because I want to tell you, you kind of sound like some of them MPCs that are upset that China
expose the entire fake
Birkenbag industry
because all these people there was something
called Birken bags. They say, oh, it's made
in Italy. They think there's
some Italian guy with a mustache
who's got pizza and he's got a twirly mustache, a fancy one, and he's sitting weaving some bags somewhere in Italy.
And he's making them all with this fine precision and he's doing it meticulously and he's this artisionalisional artist you know doing this and then the chinese came
and they said hey americans you know this whole thing you think about burkin bags here's the factory
where we make them we make them here and then then they get sent to Italy and they just put their stamp on it.
And to make it say it's made in Italy, it's not made in Italy. It's made in the Chinese
factories. And you're upset up. You think that's wrong. You're saying that's you oh my god you know sir you know
come on let's wake up to reality go ahead why do you love capitalism when china does it i
mean it's it's unbelievable.
So should we have what China has if that's capitalism?
No.
My dog exercises more rights in the Chinese.
It's no longer capitalism when we propose.
My dog exercises more rights than any Chinese.
But I thought that's capitalism.
I thought you were okay with capitalism.
What are we talking about here?
I'm showing the fallacy in your argument.
Sir, you are pent up with a bunch of bullshit, and I recommend you take a break.
Bullshit, what?
Bro, you can't deny the fact, you know, about, you know, globalism.
You know, the working man just got fucked worldwide.
Tens of millions of people all across Europe.
And the only way the working man will win is if the working man stops going on Twitter spaces
and yelling at the people that are actually trying to build a workers' party.
The working man will win when the working man understands that they have the power
to define this country however they
want it to be as long as the...
And that's exactly what the right wingers are doing.
They ain't doing shit.
The whole right wing...
Well, maybe not...
You know, and I'll agree.
The whole GOP, the Republican Party, is a total...
You should look up George Lincoln Rockwell.
It's all...
George Lincoln Rockwell.
Listen to, you know, just one of our grandfathers from about 50 years ago
you sound like one of him
nonsense anyway you've taken up too much
time talking about it a bunch of
nonsense
and we have no solutions
from you sir I want you to think about it
more I want you to reflect on your
stupidity more and have some self-awareness. And I want you to basically, you know, I want you to think
about, think about what an absurd position you've cornered yourself in talking about a bunch of nonsense.
A bunch of total nonsense.
Um... so anyway
let's bring on
okay Farrakhan is here
I don't think this is the Louis-rakhan, but it's someone who has their name.
Go ahead.
Louis, go ahead.
Go ahead and speak sir go okay you can't speak that's okay we can move you
all right
well there there we go
you know not speaking uh sui there is a lot of people
requesting i can't see any of them can you bring some people up
how on uh tell me tell me who first
i'm bringing people up i'm bringing people up tell me who first
um
so let's see we got a lot of people.
We have Orange.
He's a Sudani guy.
You've spoken to him before.
We have a black flag communist.
We have a ACP member.
Comic Killer, trying to be speaker again.
Then we've got like three people
who are just very small accounts.
I can't really discern.
So we don't want any people that are already in the party
and we don't want people that have been on before.
So bring up people that are new, basically.
Okay, I think this person is new, so here you go.
Psychonaut.
I think I've talked to this person before.
Anyway, go ahead, Psychonaut.
What's your opinion on Gus Hall in the original CPUSA?
He was apparently a staunch conservative like not not in the broad sense like but in the
hardline sense relative to what came after but i don't we don't really glorify him
because we have the view that everything kind of went downhill
after Foster left.
From what I understand, essentially,
he was more in line of like an actual Marxist
than this line, but during the 60s
and 70s, he essentially began
to welcome in individuals like
Angela Davis and all that, and they sort of
then, as he got older,
basically, he was like a centrist.
He compromised with revisionism big time, but he didn't fully give in, but he definitely, you know, he, it's complicated, I guess.
We don't hold him in the same light that we do
Foster. It's definitely
definitely not. I know during your
like a full basically like question and answer video about your organization
you said that you essentially wanted
to not do the
PSL run for
Presence every four years scenario.
Right. But is that essentially
like subject to change?
Any policy
could potentially, nothing is set totally in stone, but we don't foresee it in the near future just because the cost and resource intensity of that is too high. And also we've learned something, which is we know that, you know, in the past, you have to run a presidential campaign to get attention, right?
You don't need to do that in an age that's already an information age.
You can take advantage of the heightened political atmosphere that come with presidential elections,
but you don't have to run a candidate yourself
in our estimation.
Yeah, so
yeah, so it would be
like if in like some
out there scenario, it was like a
Ross Perra or even like a Ralph Mineta situation
where it was showing like, you would actually have a chance of getting like matching funds and like 10, 15% of the vote, then it would become subject to change or something.
Yeah, I mean, I mean, look, I mean, we would probably, we want to build up before
something like that you know
so
what uh
what essentially
going forward
is i know that for a long time when you were back on
youtube doing streaming you were for a while with the whole damn jahoo zero hours thing
have you essentially shelved a lot of like the dismantle the federal
government from when I understand the stuff
for now?
Um
I just
it's not clear. I mean we're not really
putting ourselves in a position where we feel that we have the power to influence that in any way, I think is really where we're at right now. But, I mean, it's not going to happen. You know, Doge got shut down. Elon got kicked out of the government
clearly they're not interested in that happening
so it probably wouldn't happen
I would say
I would say that like the way that Elon
admitted that essentially like him shutting down
the government and like rationalizing it
would essentially be like
the same effect to America and the global
economy as if America just defaults
on its debt and the entire economy.
Right. I mean that it shows
we didn't know what Elon was doing or what its significance was a lot of people were saying it's a privatization scheme. It's all part of some bigger agenda. We didn't know, right? And then we saw how it was all shut down and it became pretty obvious that this was not something that was part of any big plan.
It seems like he really did want to go too far for, you know, that the institution or the system would allow.
Yeah, but it was essentially like in his like basically like cope tweets as to why like, oh well, sigh, he essentially admits that like the zero hours sort of premise is correct in the sense, but actually trying to undo Kansianism at this stage
would essentially have the same effect as just
causing a
catabolic collapse. Yeah, it would.
It would. Economy.
Yeah, it would.
We think it will collapse. I mean, we think it's
common. We just think that
we don't believe we can
influence that
in any way.
We just can prepare for the consequences,
I guess.
You know,
I wish I was still, I wish that uh i wish comie killer had been kept on because
the second like someone goes for like george lincoln rockwell that's like the that's isn't that the
the the nazi guy like he was he was like a commander
of a US submarine in World War II
and like during the civil rights
movement he was like actually like
oh we're like a Nazi armed band and just like scream at like
yeah he was yeah he was the
Nazi party guy
yeah that's him yeah um
Tom
thinking that guy is pretty far gone
that was he's pretty down far the rabbit hole
which is sad because this guy I could
tell on you know otherwise
he would probably be
he wouldn't he wouldn't
he wouldn't have gone down such a dark path
but he's so far gone that it's just difficult
difficult to persuade people
the thing
like it's like
I think there's like a sort of, like, there's people who have like, essentially like the JQ Wignat worldviews I hold, but there's still like a threshold where when you start actually like, like the guy that's like actually wearing the Nazi arm band walking Amish Street, that's like a pretty clear sign you've gone past the...
They've gone, yeah, they're pretty far gone.
They're pretty committed to it, and it's pretty sad.
MV, what's going on, brother?
I thank you so much, MV.
Wow, thank you, brother.
Sorry, I was just addressing something on stream.
But, yeah, I mean, I think there is a threshold where, like, you can't really...
You could, if you, like, spent so much resources and energy and time on it but at a certain
point you got to cut your losses and be like okay this person is just way too foregone you know
which is sad but it's just the truth if someone is right at the end of the pipeline of the far right and they're like
there, it's, there's, we see, we're trying to intercept a lot of that. We try to intercept it.
But once they go there, you know, it's, there's really, it's really just kind of um almost impossible to get people
out of that i'm talking about the people that are like straight up like like like swastika types
you know like the straight up swastika types
in America
have always been
like related to the US government in some way
yeah yeah
criminal underground
like if you look at
like if you look at the guy who wrote that, like, it's the ghost mask from Call of Judy, like, that siege James Mason guy, he's a member of the church, he was a member of the Church of Satan Satan which was been directly linked to the CIA and FBI.
Yep.
Through a queen aisle.
Yep.
The guy with the eyebrows.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it's, it's a glowy, glowy, weird world.
And it's very nasty.
And we try to
we're trying to prevent this pipeline
and we're trying to intercept people
from going down that path but it
you know people get caught up in it
unfortunately
they just walk past a point of no return
anyway cycle They just walk past a point and no return.
Anyway, Psychonaut, thank you so much for coming on.
Appreciate it.
So there's a guy named Islamism, Stalinism, defender. Yeah, I was just about to bring him up.
I was just about a bring him up.
Well, he sounds like he already agrees with us, so we don't really need to bring him up. I was just about a bring him up. Well, he sounds like he already agrees with us, so we don't really need to bring him up.
Oh, okay.
There's a guy named Dual Aspect Marxist.
I don't know what the hell this is, so we'll give this person a chance.
Dual aspect, what's going on?
Hey, what's up? Can you hear me?
Yeah.
Hey, what's up? I'm very interested
in your project.
I'm considering
myself a Marxist.
I don't really talk a lot of these spaces.
So I'll just go forward.
My question is, you know, on the platform for the ACP,
I don't see anything about, you know,
environmentalism, not to sound like a
dead brain hippie.
I understand that, you know, the
sort of globalist climate change
initiatives and rhetoric
has a lot of damage.
Not as far as I'm aware
and, you know, I could be
wrong. It's something I could have missed.
Yeah, you're right. I don't
based on some interactions I had with some. I think, I think we talk about the, yeah, the closest thing is we talk about, uh, the public works and service army to provide relief from, um, like environmental disasters and stuff. But yeah, I think, I think actually, I remember, I think at the time we wanted to kind of leave it open. If you want to know, my view is that I'm of the persuasion that ecology and Marxism should be combined in some way. I think it's
they have to be because I
think Marxism without
ecological
doesn't just mean conservation
informing what the movements
of Marxism. Right.
You end up the same crisis that capitalism is
perpetuating. I don't have a
conservation. I don't have a conservation.
I don't have a conservationist notion of ecology, though.
I'm talking about ecology in the sense of a perspective on understanding the various I don't know what to call them
without using jargon
processes of nature
they're just at such a scale
and at such a level that they
cannot be like reduced to a technological
paradigm of just pure
manipulates. So these things
in a Chinese view really is what
interests me, you know, to be honest, of ecology.
It's very different from the Western one.
Yeah. The Western view of ecology just kind of seems to be like Avatar, which I reject that
paradigm. But, um... Yeah. There's a lot of, there's a lot of Western, Western fantasy, you know,
sort of around that idea of ecology, but I think that that idea is exactly right, specifically what you said about the idea of...
Yeah, because I don't like this prejudice.
That are bigger than can be...
Yeah, and I don't like the...
I don't like...
There's a few things about...
That we need to, like, by, to certain extent, abide by or align with.
Right.
There's a few things about ecology that I dislike as far as how that word is used.
One is the association just with green plants. I think that's wrong because the environment
and ecology is also related to things like geology and, you know, hydrothermal vents under the ocean
and volcanoes and deserts and destructive things as well. know, hydrothermal vents under the ocean and... Yeah.
...multas and deserts and destructive things as well. And so I don't like how that's not included and what people comprehend as nature.
I also dislike the association only with like, like, friendly, acute, endangered species and not like the ugly, hideous animals that are probably necessary for stability of an environment.
And so there's all sorts of prejudices of the green movement.
Ha,az, I 100% agree with you.
I guess my real question is, like, how does this nascent movement, like, reframe that in the ways that you're talking about?
Because I happen to come at this from somewhat of a spiritual movement. nascent movement, like, reframe that in the ways that you're talking about, because
I happen to come to this from somewhat of
a spiritual perspective. That doesn't have to be
relevant at all, but I think that the
realizing that nature is not all cute
and cuddly, that there are forces that
will kill us. There are
cycles of nature that will
bring us back down a peg over
time. Like forest fires aren't necessary.
Floods happen. Hurricanes happen.
That we're never going to like reach a point
of technological attainment
that allows us to
leave this behind.
Right. Right.
We have to learn how to incorporate. So the long term,
not long termism in like the tech pro
ideology, but like long termism
what I would imagine is a socialist long termism
is like communism into the future should be like a perpetual
movement that that
figures out how humans
reintegrate with with ecology
on that level. I think that the dialectic is such that it's like this
in order to deepen the development of the productive forces there needs to increasingly be
a deeper comprehension of the laws of nature, right?
So I don't see the two as contradictory.
I don't see the need to unleash the productive forces to continually do that forever as incompatible with an ecological perspective.
I actually think the two
I agree with the Chinese view. The two rely
on each other.
You need to, you know, the
individual centric notion of
technology is the problem in my view.
You know?
We're reaching a scale
of civilization, the so-called
Anthropocene, where there
are technologies at scale that are
not necessarily the result of intentional
planning and engineering, right?
They're artificial,
they're the consequence of human intervention but they are not necessarily
the part of some kind of like conscious plan right and ai is similar to this i mean we're entering
an era of ai i i is profoundly related to ecology, actually. A lot of people don't understand
this, that these are trending
in the same direction of world history, because
you know, AI it aggregates
trends and data and so on and so on.
But it's not necessarily a direct input and output you know so this this perspective that's based on the aggregation of a bunch of
different disparate individual phenomena and kind of like
deriving common
variables and outcomes
and conclusions from that
I think that's really what we're talking about
we're all talking about the same thing basically
like all the different effects
on nature technology that technology.
Yeah.
I mean, not having it ever interacted with you before on this level, I've been pleasantly
surprised by the things that, you know, you just had at hand to say about the situation
in terms of your understanding of
ecology being broader than kind of the
pop culture. Right, right.
It's the pop culture thing that I really
don't like because it's a type of
romanticism of nature that is just
nonsense. But
ecology in general
is a much more broader category
I think is a higher level and a higher
perspective in general
that I think is it more advanced
when it comes to comprehending
the relationship,
the various relationships and processes within nature.
Yeah.
Because the metaphysical view predating ecology, you know, we were talking about the Cartesian
mechanical view of nature or, you know, we're talking about the Cartesian mechanical view of nature
or, you know,
you know, the
notion that it's
like pure determinism
of causes and effects. I think that
this is what...
The mechanical materialism.
The mechanical materialism. The mechanical materialism.
I think, yeah,
I think it's part of...
The secret behind my view is I really think that
ecology is just a way to smuggle
in dialectical materialism,
you know, back into the conversation.
I think, I mean mean the way that I
I think that ecological systems are working on
a longer time scale so you know
dialectical materialism generally is concerned with
human society and it's
that's true but it doesn't have to but I think
on a larger scale that it applies
in terms of what we might
understand as apocalypse
also and I'll say a final thing
you know that is that also
the nature itself has this pendulum swing
as a as a...
I'll say one final thing about this.
Yeah.
Which is that it's also time to start applying the scale of human civilization itself longer because
there are patterns
of human civilization, Chinese,
Russian, whatever, Middle Eastern.
It's not reducible to the
modern framework of classical
pre-Leninist Marxism,
which just basically kind of
is a very enclosed time basically kind of is a
very enclosed time frame.
There is a larger reality
of, you know, the
civilizational development.
That is not, you know,
the immediacy of...
I think humans have been doing human things
for a long time. Well, not just that,
but there are... It didn't always result in the... There are particular
civilizations, even, like the Chinese. It's like 5,000 years old.
There's patterns in that history
that are at the scale. may as well be like of natural
things you know
so
or civilizations
you've had the time to like see the
you know the progression of
the stars you know
of larger
cosmic cycles
possibly.
So I think to me
my appreciation of ecology
to sum it up, it comes down to my
insistence upon a greater
appreciation of the reality of
civilization itself
as something that is of a much greater scale than anything that can be reduced to individual concepts, individual subjectivities, individual experiences, lifetimes, and so on and so on.
So it's very seamlessly communistic for me.
So there's...
A hundred percent, man.
I'm very gratified to hear you say that.
Well, if I could say one more thing, how do you take that into the platform and how do you
sell that to the people, to the working class people who make you don't have that fucking understanding?
All we can propose is a public works and service army that mobilize human beings in the midst of the inevitable disasters to come.
Yes, indeed.
But I think it would probably be part and parcel of the general policy of economic
planning and planning at the scale of, you know, the thing about
ecology,
you can't just do it in one country.
You need a global level of coordination,
planetary scale,
you know.
It's both.
Yeah, you can,
you to an extent, but...
It starts in the backyard, but, you know...
I think really, for now,
it would really...
It would probably be part of the
public works and service army, you know.
It's really drawn from Jameson's
universal army. That would be a
kind of also ecological task force.
You know, if they got to go into forests and they've got to plant trees or they've got to cut down trees for that matter, they got to introduce the species or remove one for that matter, you know, it's like, that's basically probably what would
oversee that.
Right. So it'd be like
a
more of a bureaucratic level sort of
sort of thing. Not necessarily.
I mean, the universal
concept, it's very broad. you know, it could be elements of decentralization that are combined with new technologies. Our party already kind of incorporates that.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think decentralization is important
given given up some of that power back to localities
anyway thanks for coming on appreciate it
so
uh sull
uh
there's an account here that, um, his name is Ramon. He's got like the Shahada as a profile picture. Would you like to speak with him?
All right.
I think I've spoken to this person before r e the american flag who is this go ahead go ahead hi sorry
hi um i was just
i was just going to ask about
about the um
you know the the
recent event about the
the the um sorry that's not recent event about the sorry
I hope that's starter
about the Israeli shooting
in Washington D.C.
There's been
trying to keep up, there's been
stuff going around you know, stuff
going around, you know,
some people claiming,
there are some people who claim that this
was a PSL
member, while
those are saying that they're saying that it might
be a false flag attack.
There's also been a weird sense of,
and those are a weird sense of, you know, people in the PSL and the DSA
trying, you know, say they're smearing the American Communist Party.
So I want to know your position, what do you think, I think, about the shooting,
and why do you think, considering that many of these organizations are considered left wing.
Why do you think they're smearing another
left wing party? That's probably like the
ACP.
I don't know why anyone would be smearing
us about this, but
I released my statement on the shooting
and, you know, we don't condone violence or encourage it because it's against the law.
It's a quick way to just go to jail and that's it, you know.
Um, we don't condone it, we don't encourage it.
It's adventurism.
It's undisciplined.
It's individualistic.
And that's it, you know?
What else can we say okay I think that's all he wanted to ask
we have a couple other speakers
we have a central American nationalists
we have Jimmy the Otter.
I'm not sure if you've spoken to him before.
I have and bring up the Jimmy the way because we'll bring up a few at a time to speed
we have a member in reserve who wanted to ask you a couple of questions. And then we also have Orange, who has a couple questions on geopolitics and natural dialectics.
Sounds really fucking boring. I'll bring Michael on. Okay.
He's the entrepreneur. It doesn't like this.
Yeah, I brought up Michael.
All right. Michael, go ahead.
Hey, man. How are you doing? How are things going in the American Communist Party?
It's all great.
Okay. Where are you located, like citywise? Are you in America?
Yeah.
Okay, nice. You know what I love about America? Yeah. Okay. Nice. You know what I love about America?
Mm-hmm.
Is I can have my opinion, you can have your opinion, and that we may not always get along.
However, I will die defending your opinion.
Yeah, I appreciate it.
We believe the same thing.
You know, because it is very important to express our ideas, talk to each other, and create better resolutions.
We totally agree.
We totally support the First Amendment.
Thanks, Michael, for that.
Appreciate it.
Go ahead, Reza.
What do you have to say Go ahead, Reza.
What's going on?
It shows your mic is unmuted, Reza, but nobody can hear you.
Red Maze, go ahead.
Oh, no, I just want i understand that first amendment
uh statement he was making
but when they're deported people that speak out against
israel it's kind of hard to make that
statement about the u.s
you know it's it's I'm a good advocate.
I wonder what your take is for, like,
developing countries to control their own media space,
especially when they're targeted by the CIA and other,
uh, deep state actors.
Yeah.
What's your,
what's your take on that?
That's fine.
We,
we, we, we, we, deep state actors. What's your take on that?
That's fine.
Not every country has the same culture.
Some countries have a different culture when it comes to how they understand the relationship between speech and action.
And we have a different... Americans have a different on americans don't believe
there's an intrinsic relationship between speech and action americans think that you just say
whatever you want it doesn't matter necessarily until you do something other countries take
words more seriously because they have, you know, they have a
different understanding of how words and acts and norms are related to each other. You know,
other countries, they have a more of a connection between how words and discourse regulates the way people act.
Americans act not based on discourse, but based on, you know, what makes sense to them, what they want to do, whatever.
So it's just a different, it's just a very different
culture.
I get that, but then
it's just like, it
does kind of push my buns when they say that
oh, we're free to speak all, you know, all that
we want here, but yet, you know,
you get deep platforms. People get deep platform.
People get deep platform like you,
Henkel, and you get deep bank,
deep platforms, you know, and
they say all this bullshit about,
oh, you're free to say whatever.
But when the capitalist institutions don't want you to speak, they're going to cut you off.
You know?
And so it's, it's, I don't know.
It pushes me the wrong way.
And I don't know how to articulate what's going on with that.
But it's not as free as people like to make a sound.
We don't really have free speech, but for now they're not throwing us in jail.
So we'll continue to fight to at least preserve the First Amendment right.
But yeah, it's clearly not
in a good situation right now
all right comrade you guys have
you guys have a good night
good night
I appreciate you see later
bye bye okay
I'll
Reza go ahead and then I'll bring
orange on.
Hey,
I have a quick question on
China's economy because
when I look at it,
what I see is something
that was very similar in Germany
before they turned
into like a liberal
neoliberal hellhole which is their
social market economy.
Basically
like a
like some sort of market economy
that has their
social values. They tied their social values to what they call the
Christian values. The Chinese people tie it to something else.
I mean, look, I'll sum it up to you is that there's no comparison at all
because Germany can call itself whatever it wanted to.
It was a Marshall Plan experiment.
And moreover, you know, in China, the majority of the means of production are still owned and controlled by the state and the public sector.
It's basically a – there's not even really a real private sector.
It's just kind of a facade even.
And China's a dynamic country that has a market, of course, but people who have this idea that it's like a social democratic country, it's just nonsense.
You know, China is not just a country that has a market that also, you know, China is not just a country that has a market that also, you know,
acknowledges social considerations.
It's a country that is fundamentally planned in ways that Germany just wasn't.
And also, you know, there's a level of, you know, there's a level of, you know,
there's a level of sovereignty, economic sovereignty that Germany just never had.
So that's, Germany had a central bank. It didn't have a state
bank. So that's basically
my response to that. But you know, it's just
like, Orange, go ahead.
Hello?
You know me? Yep.
All right.
I want to ask,
first, have you,
you,
you're familiar with Kosovo.
Mm-hmm.
Um,
have you read European,
uh,
colonialism from a European perspective?
No.
No. No?
Um, so,
court lecture he gave to some German businessmen.
The gist of the lecture, um,
that,
that,
that the reason there was no revolution
in the major industrialized countries in the West
was that he claims the capitalist saw
exactly what Mark saw and
falling forward
put some
surplus towards the
Hey, what's your question, by the way?
Yeah.
So what's your question my question is
what would this say
for our understanding of the Cold War
as communist
in this case given that
it was the U.S. who adopted this very socialistic system.
Well, it just shows that Marx was right, that capitalism inevitably evolves into its opposite.
That's really it.
Yeah, but he also
remarks that
he views
the Soviets
as, I mean, I don't like them, like, left comments to say that the Soviets as
I mean I don't like them like left comments
say this but he views the Soviets as
essentially capitalistic
in their development in their five year
plans
whereas he's used
the Soviet the US in that way.
I also want to ask what that would mean for the
Sun of Soviet split, like how you would take that with regards to the
Sun of Soviet split.
Well, the U.S. was a consumer economy the soviet union wasn't because it was building up the basic
modern premises of production and then once it did that it never truly was able to develop
a consumer based economy, of course,
was even more behind than the Soviets were
when it came to industrialization,
but they had
a paradigm of socialist development
that already with Mao
was more advanced
and commanded a degree of immobilization of subjectivities and at a more proximate level with the cultural revolution and whatnot, which puts China a little bit more in proximity with a more advanced form of socialism.
That it's not just behind U.S. consumer capitalism.
China itself, and consumer capitalism had this quality of extremely highly charged
popular subjectivity that was mobilized economically
and in the Soviet Union you kind of saw stagnation at that level
of the morale of the population
but China revived and rediscovered socialism in the age of consumerism
with the cultural revolution, more or less.
So that's why China surpasses the U.S. today.
It's basically my solicitation.
But anyway, thank you for your question.
Yeah.
Anyway, Sewell, who else do we have besides the people that I can already see?
Anyone new?
Someone's speaker right now is a Central American Nationalist.
And then in the request, we've got just people who have spoken before.
All right.
This will be the last guy then.
Nika Nationalist, what's up? What's going on?
And we've spoken before, so Sule,
this person has been on before, but, you know, thanks for bringing them up.
But anyway, Nika Nationalist, what's up?
Hey, what's going on, man?
I'll make this quick because it's Mother's Day here, Nick.
I were in about a couple of hours.
So, and the wife, you know.
So I'll make this quick.
The question is that Naip Bukele
has always
entertained this idea
of a United Central
America. I think you've asked this about... this idea of a united Central America
I think you asked this about
him before
correct but like this is more of like
built upon that so
this is more of a
so we're talking about a political
entity in the geopolitical stage so we're talking about a political entity in the geopolitical stage.
So would the ACP support a Naïbuquer regime over the Central America entity?
Would it support a Sananita political leadership over the essential
American political against the stage.
We support the Sandinistas.
But what I'm asking is that, you know, that's your
position, but is that the ACP's
full position. Yeah.
That's what it would be.
Well, I appreciate the space, man.
Thank you. For sure. Thank you.
Okay, we have
Red Maze who just spoke like five minutes ago a guy with zero followers and a reserve member who's the zero follower person uh tadyo who who were they tayo yeah bring him on. Who's using
an alt to
come on to space?
This will be our last
person.
Go ahead.
Bring them on.
Currently connecting.
I was just
wondering if you would be in favor of nuking Las Vegas after taking power
Vegas What?
Yup.
I mean, I just hate that city, you know.
It's kind of a cancer on this country.
Any other questions? No.
You think I could get an answer on that one?
Maybe in 87 days
I'll think about it.
So it's a really difficult
decision.
So I have to think about it for 87 days.
But in 87 days, if you come back,
I'll have an answer.
All right.
Get back to me when you got a verdict.
For sure.
All right.
That's that.
That's this week's confront the chairman guys
we'll be here next week
so
yeah
we'll be here next week
we'll be here next week
goodbye We'll be here next week.
Goodbye, everybody.
All right.
Well, that was that.
Yeah.
I'm just like not in the...
Like, of like, of like, of like, of like, of like, of like... Some bullshit, you know. and rambly didn't show up.
Isn't that interesting?
Isn't that interesting?
We're almost,
it's almost like,
uh,
sad.
It's almost like we're missing him.
Like,
he didn't show up.
It's kind of disappointing.
It's like,
it's kind of growing on us,
you know?
It's,
it's,
it was growing on us.
Um, to be honest, it was starting, on us.
To be honest, it was starting to grow on us. I'm not going to lie.
Hey, I was kind of, you know, I kind of, it's kind of sad that, you know,
it's almost like I look forward to it every week, you know, at this point.
You know, I don't, I don't know. I don't know.
Anyway, guys, I'm kind of hungry.
I'm kind of hungry, guys.
I'm kind of hungry guys.
You know, and I need some more, you know,
you know what I need is like a Gatorade or a powerade or something,
you know, something along the lines of a refreshment powerade
gatorade uh electrolytes or or you know hmm you, they have a new
Sprite. Can I tell you guys about this? They got a new Sprite,
so it's said.
This Sprite,
they combine it with T.
It's called Sprite T.
And I'm just like, that shit looks gas.
And it's like, where do I get that shit?
I'm starting to see the advertisements.
But it's Sprite.
Tea.
Like, like, like.
Tastes like lemonade.
So I don't know what's going on,
but something's going on.
Do you guys, how much do you guys want writings?
Do you guys want writings more?
Do you want writings?
Do you want articles, like big ones,
like my substacks?
Do you want more of that?
Because I've been working on something and it's like so long at this point it's like 20 000 words it's gonna just get longer and longer
i just want to know like you guys even want this not even the book it's something else it's just like do you even want it though
uh because i don't it's kind of like you know sometimes i think like do people even
fucking want this uh all right all right
all right all right
I'm getting my hair cut tomorrow
how should I cut my hair
bus cut military style? What is a high taper? What is that?
What the hell is that?
I'm not doing that shit.
Isn't that what I usually get?
That's what I usually get, isn't it?
I think that's what it usually looks like.
Right?
Oh! i think i think i want to go short. No bus cut if you have a lumpy head. My head shape is actually really good.
Actually, I have a, I have a very...
Natural.
My head shape is like natural.
My head shape is like I was meant to be bald, you know, pretty much.
Like, like, uh, it's kind of what I want to, I want to get my hair short because of that.
Because I think I have a good head shape
wanted to know very it's very afro-asiatic my head it's like very afro-asiatic
it's very... Oh! Let's check Let's check.
Not much.
Almost nothing. You know, all right guys three hours silent stream three hours silent stream
three hours silent stream
just be chilling
Be chilling and shit, you know?
Be chilling and shit you know
I don't even know
I I'm not afraid to take a stand.
Everybody.
Come take my hand this world of never through the storm
everybody
come take my stand
he said
he ha ha ha ha ha Hehehehehehehehehehe.
Heheheheheheh. I'm not afraid to take the story.
I'm not afraid to take a stand.
Everybody.
Come take my hand.
Come on, guys, sing it with me.
I'm not afraid to take a stand.
Everybody
come take my hand.
It's the airport guy.
Great.
It's actually great. It's actually great.
It's actually genius.
Everybody!
Let's go on YouTube.
Let's watch some YouTube.
Nobody's sleeping tonight.
Let's watch some YouTube.
Um... Hmm. let's watch some youtube um hmm where is that that remember that ai that had all that
uh you know
they started making fun of North Korea
I don't want to deal with that shit
fuck them
the the Shrek swamp stuff
I don't want to do with that that stupid youtube channel
fuck them i'm not afraid to take a stand
Everybody
Come take my hand
Basically like the after hours of infrared
you know it's like the after hours of infrared you know it's like the after hours
now you're here
it's chill
you're basically like you're at school and you're waiting to get picked up
and it's everyone's already left and it's all gone but i guess you're still here
you know i'm not afraid You know?
I'm not afraid to take a stand.
Everybody come take my hand. That is intriguing.
Actually fascinating. Okay. actually fascinating okay um back Thank you. You know, We got a video is popping off on our channel.
It's actually crazy.
We have, it's like randomly popping off.
It's so cool.
On the ACP channel. why the PLA didn't love the AK-47?
You know, I want to know why. Why not?
We have to work pretty hard to get inside the heads of Chinese.
We have to work pretty hard to get inside the heads of Chinese military leaders
to understand why they thought that the AK-47 was a lousy weapon for a force like theirs,
which was a Maoist people's war force. To hear them tell it, a force like...
Iron Rose with the five!
Thank you.
Iron Rose. I appreciate it.
The Viet Cong should have relied on SKS's.
That would be better than AK-47s.
Now, history has shown us differently.
When you think Maoist insurgency or freedom fighter,
you think of AK-47.
Heck, you think of any low-budget developing
world force, you think AK-47.
Or Kashnikov family.
What makes it even stranger is
that the Vietnamese and a lot of the
other insurgency forces
got their AKs specifically
from China. What they were using,
in large measure, are not
Soviet-made Kalashnikovs, but Chinese type 56 submachine guns exported.
Oh, so it's the same shit, but it's, okay, you're going to pull a switcher rule.
It's just the same shit, but it's the one that they made.
All right, got it.
The Chinese government expressly for the purpose of being used by those forces in their national liberation movements.
So this makes a great paradox.
Why did China think that the AK was suitable for everybody else's Maoist force, but not for their own?
The answer is not simple, but it's a puzzle that actually fits together if you understand
what the Chinese leaders were thinking and what
they valued. Okay, let's start.
Many of you know the background story, but the Kalashnikov,
specifically the type 3, AK-47,
arrived in China and
entered Chinese service in 1956, and began
being manufactured by the Chinese themselves
as the type 56.
And if we said before, the People's Liberation
Army classified it the same way the Soviets
had classified the Kalashnikov originally as a submachine gun.
As you know, the Soviet Union originally called it
collapsed the two roles into one.
And as we've seen before,
in Chinese nomenclature,
it took a long time
for there to be a clear distinction
and a word for light machine gun
as opposed to any other
kind of automatic weapon.
We've mentioned this before,
but for a long time,
the Chinese would just call
anything a shōti-jikang
or handheld or portable machine gun that could be fired automatically
and carried and operated by one person without need of a tripod, without some kind of belt feeding
system or an assistant gunner, without a crew. If it fired automatically, if it didn't have a crew,
it was a portable machine. See, they understood that under textbook circumstances,
a Soviet army rifleman was going to use his Kalashnikov
as part of a huge mechanized attack,
together with his whole regiment,
3,000 guys.
First, there would be this emotionally infantry force.
They would be supplemented by better artillery. They would be moved around and supplied on trucks. They would be supplemented by better artillery.
They would be moved around and supplied on trucks.
But the PLA did the math, and they figured,
look, if we're not going to be doing this big Soviet-style regimental attack,
it makes sense for us to rethink what do we want from a rifle,
given how we actually think we're going to be fighting.
What they concluded was the AK-47 was really a rich man's weapon. I know this sounds a lunatic
from a modern perspective, but they didn't know what we know in 1956 about how the history
of insurgency and guerrilla warfare was going to play out.
The way they saw it, the Kalashnikov was well conceived for the peculiar conditions of the Soviet
military, which had a wealth of machines, but a paucity of training time.
From their perspective, the Kalashnikov was just a typically Soviet hardware solution
to a software problem, namely a way to skirt the difficulty of teaching all the subtleties of
rifle marksmanship to some unmotivated short-service conscript from Uzbekistan, who in any case
was probably going to be fighting with a ton of armor and artillery anyway.
No, the PLA thought, hardware solutions only work for countries that are rich enough to afford
the needed hardware. China could and did manufacture Kalashnikovs, but the PLA still thought
the Kalashnikov only made sense as a general issue rifle if you had the whole rest of a Soviet
mechanized and you could operate
it together with rockets and radar and
this guy get to the fucking point of why
they basically made a copy of
it anyway
the way PLA leaders saw things
they didn't suffer from the shortage of training time that the Soviet army did, where the Soviet army had two years to train a conscript.
One thing the PLA did have was recruits that they could keep for a good long time who would learn their craft as infantrymen and didn't need a hardware solution to make that training problem go away.
So if you could say that Western armies spent steel to save flesh and the Soviet army spent
steel to save training time, the PLA opted to use training to save on both steel and flesh.
That is, they could afford to pick a less
potent or advanced weapon and
then compensate for it with better training.
And sure enough, the PLA veered way
far away from the Soviet army in their thinking about
rifle marksmanship training. In fact, the PLA
lined up a lot more closely with the American approach.
The US Army, of course, believed in firepower and mass just as much as the Soviets did.
But in keeping with American shooting traditions, it prized individual rifle marksmanship highly,
and it stressed training precise, long-range, semi-automatic fire.
And the PLA leaders concurred.
Just like the American military of the day, the PLA wanted their basic riflemen to leave automatic weapons to someone else with more experience and better judgment and skill. And they wanted the basic riflemen to contribute to the fight with well-aimed semi-automatic fire. Sure, the Chinese army couldn't afford as much range time as Western armies, but that was all the more reason for them to make their shots count.
And then, too, the Chinese military just didn't like the AK-47 that much.
In their mind, it had all kinds of faults.
It lacked any kind of a bayonet.
Even if you added one, they still thought it would be too short for bayonet fencing.
The big banana magazine would keep a soldier from hugging the ground to shoot in the prone position.
The AK had less effective range than the SKS because of its shorter barrel and shorter slight radius.
Even closer in, it was less accurate than the SKS and had a loopier...
It's too small.
I don't know why it's funny I'm kind of understanding the argument though
I kind of get it it's like it makes sense to me actually
and it lost even more accuracy in automatic fire
it didn't even fit the Chinese body type very well.
That's what a lot of PLA rifle trainers insisted all the way until the 1980s when they
finally gave up on the AK.
I'm told that the Soviet designers assumed a median Soviet army conscript who would be about
510 and 170 pounds.
That's much bigger.
What is it?
A gun for ants?
Then the guys that the Chinese army was recruiting.
Even in the late 1980s, when the Chinese diet was much richer, a Chinese man of recruiting age,
averaged five, five and 120 pounds.
That's five inches shorter and 50 pounds lighter than that median Soviet infantrymen.
On those lighter bodies, a big honkin Kalashnikov that weighs 10.5 pounds, it's just a boat anchor.
For smaller people, it could weigh close to 10% of the soldier's body weight.
And it had that big
nasty two-pound magazine hanging
off the front. And that made a weapon that the PLA
already found too inaccurate for their purposes
to be... This actually makes a ton
of sense. If you're focusing on purely
marksmanship, it actually
makes total sense.
Huh.
More inaccurate.
Now, I know of at least one
Chinese marksmanship trainer
who still thought that even the SKS
was just a bad ergonomic fit
for East Asian body types,
but at least it was a lot better.
What the PLA disliked most of all
about the AK was the greater felt recoil.
Subjectively, it kicked more than the SKS because that long-stroke gas pissed in that was deliberately over-gassed to make it reliable, also made it harder to control, gave it less finesse.
And the AK-47, in particular,
which is what the Chinese adopted,
has this off-kilter-bore axis
that doesn't line up with the stock
so that when the shooter shoots,
the recoil impulse goes back over his shoulder
instead of into it. Now, the Soviets fixed
that problem in 1959 when they transitioned from the AK-47 to this updated AK-M, a kind of Kalashnikov 2.0.
They fixed that stock angle. They gave it a bayonet. They fixed a lot of the very problems that the
PLA was complaining about among
themselves that made them dislike the Kalashnikov as anything other than a submachine gun. But
the PLA was already so unimpressed with the Kalashnikov and so committed to the SKS
that they didn't even follow suit. They never did develop their Type 56 AK into something lighter, more useful with a bayonet,
with better accuracy, and a better recoil impulse. By that point, they were already
irretrievably committed to the SKS. And we're going to see again and again that over the decades,
every time the PLA thought that maybe it was time to introduce some refinements to the basic SKS, something would happen. They would discover that they were already so invested in the SKS.
Hmm. Fascinating. Let's see what other videos we can consume.
The army just deleted its own vehicles.
Who's Justin Taylor? Is this like a... The army just deleted its own vehicles.
Who's Justin Taylor?
Is this like a... I don't know.
I don't want to...
We have Hassan Piker videos.
You know, I wanna see this.
It's a miniature desert eagle that can fire.
It's half the size of a real desert eagle.
Let's see what's going on.
Okay. What the fuck was that?
What the fuck was that?
Grant, thank you, Grant. But what was that noise? I don't know what that noise was.
I don't know what that noise was. and the
I'm
the That's That Peter Griffin laugh.
Pretty cool.
He said,
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, There's a lot of tiny gun content.
I don't want to get sucked into this pipeline
for this rabbit hole of tiny guns,
but there's definitely...
There's a Barrett M... I got to see this one the barrett m8 2
tiny version just got to see this
didn't even know this was possible
and i got to see the part where it fires.
Damn, that son of a bitch is real.
I mean, this is a bitch is real.
I mean, this is a really nasty gun.
So even the tiny version, I'm sure, he's got to keep his distance. Wow.
I like how there's no speech.
I like how they don't talk.
They just show us what's going on.
Wow.
A lot of things going on in the world.
Let's see. I think I've seen enough of this though let's see what's what's what else to consume there's a guy saying he's talking about his favorite AK
I want to see that
sure You know, You know, I want to see this.
Can a 45 pound plate stop a 50-cal sniper rifle? I don't know. I don't know.
Steel plate stop a 50-cal rifle. That's what we're going to answer today. Welcome back to
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over two million subscribers and literally a billion views is not what we expected at all we
were just having fun down here at the farm in georgetown texas looking to make some videos
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We never knew that it would be what it is today.
By voting, no, there's also other things you have to agree to, I guess.
You have to, you have to, like, be a jerk, I guess.
So it's really fun.
So thanks for watching.
I wanted to spice it up with some
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Zach and I mess around here and shoot
Fred. And hopefully what... Everyone thinks it can.
Fucking hideous.
I have a bunch of stuff. You guys
are fucking stupid.
How, how? I mean, no way.
Stuff in store for you guys in the future too.
Sorry, I was just...
Inside here, inside this little hole where it's rounded out you can see that's like an inch
strapman coming back a lot more than usual it's a good step to the bottom part of the plate
tore off a big chunk of the a did nothing to the back of the plate it's a good sign let's move up
to the deagle yes, sir. Okay.
Go ahead and load her up. I want to see the sniper.
I don't give a fuck about the Desert Eagle.
There you go.
Head a quarter, this is Stinger.
You know, this whole thing about wearing earmuffs,
you know,
you don't have to do that.
They just do that because they're just like,
you know,
they just like,
you gotta be careful,
shut up,
in a real war,
you don't have time
for fucking headphones.
You don't,
you don't have time
to get your fucking
beats by Dre fucking headphones.
I mean, I know I wore one when I shot the RPG.
It's my biggest life regret wearing those stupid headphones.
It was like minus 10 aura points because I wore those dumb headphones and I shot the RPG.
I didn't have to.
Honestly, it wouldn't have been, it would have been fine.
I'm requesting a clearance of engagement.
Yeah, he got a good clearance.
He's good now.
Okay. yeah he got a good clearance he's good now how'd that feel well at the best all right so we're 100 yards out and stinger literally put a car c block, he's too good of a shot.
So it's going to be hard for you to
not hit Dead Center. You're so good of a shot
but I need you to try. Oh no!
He did!
I can't believe it. All the people that said, no, we're assholes.
The shot of this thing, Zach.
It really did.
The whole plate charred here.
Unbelievable.
Came all the way out the back.
Look at that. I didn't know that.
I really thought no.
His shirt is literally burning from that round, went straight through his chest.
Unbelievable.
I am shocked.
I didn't know that would happen. You know, David Pacman is leaving the country.
I just saw that recommend it to me.
But I'm not going to click it because I already know what he's going to say.
It's getting really dangerous.
And Trump is going to put me in jail.
And I don't...
All right, cool.
Uh... me in jail and I don't, all right, cool. Uh, What a ridiculous premise. Can a washing machine
Stop a 50-cal
Sniper rifle?
What an absurd premise.
Just we're doing anything now, aren't we?
We're making anything.
I mean, a damn washing machine, really?
Um, say something.
Something.
Something?
Have you ever wondered if a 50-cow sniper rifle would go through a washing machine?
No, I've never wondered that.
It's just absurd.
It's a ridiculous premise.
See, they always have to do these dumb guns first and then not the one we care about
and I don't give a fuck
about the Desert Eagle. Where is
the
sniper?
Fred, Fred, Fred, Fred.
He puts clothes in it. Okay. Fred, Fred, Fred, Fred, Fred. He puts clothes in it.
Okay.
Fred, you might, Fred.
Barely tap.
What?
Washing machine, verse 50.
You.
Do you see smoke coming out here.
And it did not make it out the back of the dryer.
Found our bullet about middle of our dryer.
That little guy made it all the way through.
What?
The washing machine was too strong?
And a fucking 44... What what is going on it's fascinating but through this massive fan in the washing
machine almost made it through the dryer 50 cowl went in and out of our washing machine put a hole into our
dryer but could not come through the other side. Fred is still safe.
Wow, what a day? Sweet.
Look at this guy. What is that three videos in a row? I can't believe this.
It changes everything. What is that three videos in a row? I can't believe this.
It changes everything.
Here we are with all of my A.Ks.
And some of you're probably surprised.
You mean you don't have 27?
I don't.
I confess. Just a mere five. I haven't overdone it as much on AKs as maybe on some other firearms.
This is the SGL 20 arsenal. This is a Chinese A.K.S. And this
one has, this is, my
select fire has been converted.
So it's a Chinese
AK. Then it's actually
called AK-47, I think.
Was it, S?
They've got on there, yeah.
But that's irrelevant kind of.
The Sears is what's registered.
And then this is my Sam 7 S-F arsenal.
This is another Chinese.
Both of these last ones are basically A.K.S. 762 models, as they're called. Okay. A.K.S. 762, Polytech. And this one, basically the same marketing. Polytech, A.K.S. 762. It's. It's just a spiker model,
which is kind of rare actually, and then this one, especially, the folder
because it was shipped this way.
So there weren't many of those
made available. That's very collectible.
And it's wonderful to shoot.
And that's what I have and guess what they're all chambered in yeah 760 by 39 I nothing wrong with the was it 7 545 by
39 nothing wrong with that it's great rounds what they've used around the world in a lot of places now.
I just always, with the AK, I wanted a 762 by 39. I like that round, 30 caliber.
If I want an eddy-bitty really fast round, I just prefer 556 in an AR
format. I love
that 545 round. I've shot
in it. I love
the 545. It's a nice round.
It's a...
It's a... It's a good round.
You know? I shot their newest
AK model
I don't know what it's called is it the
it's like the
AK
fuck what is their newest one
the 12 is it not the 12 there's a newer one Fuck, what is their newest one? The 12?
Is it not the 12?
There's a newer one.
There's a newer one.
I loved it.
I loved it.
It was such a really nice rifle.
What is it called?
I cannot remember what it's called a K is it the 19 did I
think it was the 19.
Let me compare them.
AK 12.
Um, it could have been the 12 honestly i don't know i don't know which one it was
yeah it was 545 okay i liked the 12 a lot of people don't like it.
I liked it.
It was nice.
I liked it.
It was a good, good gun.
But you know, the 74 is probably the best one.
These two.
You think I should shoot them a little bit to help me out? I guess I'm partial to folding stocks, aren't they?
You know, if you haven't shot full auto, you can't even judge these guns.
That's the truth.
You have to shoot them full auto to understand them
boy I hate to get both these dirty
you think you all
chin but it doesn't really matter
but it's nice and solid
it really is
that's a pretty thing
there really is so let me fire it. Maybe that'll help me.
Alright. I remember where to hold? You know boy.
Jay K's on the take.
You don't have full auto though?
I'm talking about, uh,
and you know,
they are, that's right, the older ones, right?
So it's more attractive
in appearance to a lot of people.
And in the mix...
The thing about, the reason the AK
is kind of stupid in the U.S.
is, uh, let's say the preppers were right and some shit went down, right?
The thing is, if we're like in an apocalyptic, whatever scenario, um, the stupid thing about owning an AK, and I may be uninformed here, I could be talking out of my ass.
But I just kind of feel like the rounds will not be that abundant.
Because, you know, ammo was already fucking really rare, you know?
Or it was.
Maybe that changed.
And it's like,
how often are you going to find 7-6-2s, like, just line? It's going to be like super,
it's going to be like Fortnite, the fucking golden
legendary tier loot chest item
you know you're just gonna it's gonna be like something you
find rarely
whereas the
556 is going to be fucking
everywhere you know 556
is going to just fucking everywhere you know 556 is going to just be everywhere exactly
a r is king it's me all 556 5 it's going to be the standard round for everything so the
a k is just kind of stupid to have for any other reason but luxury
in my opinion in the USA
because
you know the round
it's just not going to be that abundant
or maybe not enough will be
using 762 maybe maybe, you know.
But the 556 will be everywhere.
It'll be fucking everywhere.
You know, I could tell you that.
AK is good for LARP.
That's true.
That's really true. Oh. uh this is something i want to
hello everyone commander brave belly here today on the channel i'm reviewing the russian federation
24 hour combat rations in use right now, currently in Ukraine.
This is menu number two. Without further ado, let's get the show on the road.
All right, guys, so here we have it, the famous Russian white star, quote unquote.
This is their combat rations currently in use.
These are very hard to come by here in the States because of all
That's pretty cool. I would like to give that a try one day. I'm gonna set that off to the side guys and let's start
Showcasing everything we have. All right. So we have what looks like there's some kind of apple puree
It's nice that this one comes with a photo this is the first
for me so this is definitely looks updated and the um this was made in 2024 it expires in
2025 so this is considered fresh for military food all right so that looks kind of updated i don't
remember them having
the picture of
the actual like
Apple jam on it.
All right.
Then we have full
disclosure.
I don't read
Cyrillic.
I'm American,
but we're going to
discover and see
what this is all about.
I do have a translator.
I don't want to use it.
I like experiencing this as I go. It looks like we have three kind of beverages.
It looks like...
I believe this is creamer for their coffee.
MREs...
I like MREs.
I heard they're expensive, aren't they?
Yeah, no fragrance whatsoever. Just a slight bit of moisture, not bad, not the best.
It's decent. Good quality. It doesn't tear. You see how it's like material. It's cotton.
So that's a good start. We have napkins.
I'm going to set that off to the side. And then we avoid anxiety for soldiers because coffee does
give you jitters, you know, too much coffee. But I mean, I feel like you can't have too much
if you get three of these. That's still not that much. So the latinous aspect
of it is fatty. So I'm going to
bring you guys a little closer look. First
bite going in of the ham.
This is what this looks like. This is some kind of
stew. It's like a hardy stew. Check that out.
And it's got...
This guy, like, is really boring. I don't know what the fuck...
The appeal for this content is, but it's just like...
I'm just like... It's too... Oh, Yeah, um, we're gonna end the stream.
Well, bye guys
I'll see you guys
I'll see you guys
Sunday goodbye
good stream
bye bye guys
Sunday hopefully we do an earlier stream
okay bye bye bye