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I'm The Stephen with the 10. Thank you so much, brother.

Phil with the 5. What's going on? Bubblegum with the 20 month anniversary subscription thank you brother i appreciate you

welcome welcome welcome welcome a lot of interesting things are going on a lot of interesting things are happening a lot of

realignment going on a lot of divisions being made clear a lot of lines being drawn in the sand a lot of snakes and rats and scum, exposing themselves for what they truly and actually are.

I told you at the beginning of this year that this would be a year of class struggle. I also told you it would be a year

of political realignment and a year in which people's true loyalties and position with respect

to the development of history would clarify itself like never before. And that is exactly

what's going on and it's happening right before our eyes

i want to take the opportunity to talk about what we can expect ahead in the coming months

in 2025 in general as our efforts to unionize the

draughters in the port of newark and across the country peter thank you so much brother

the port of Newark

alone.

If the workers there go

on strike, the whole country can be

shut down. I want you to

understand what's at stake here. I want

you to understand that the companies, as we

speak, are scrambling and shitting their pants and already doing everything in their power to shut this down. Just because of the mere whispers of what's going on, I want to tell you about how the New York and New Jersey chapters, Boogaboo, thank you so much. I want to tell you about how the New York and New Jersey chapters. Boogaboo, thank you so much.

I want to tell you about how the New York and New Jersey chapters are now going to that port on a regular basis.

I want to tell you about how the truckers at that port have expressed a lot of interest in this.

And there's a lot of discussion going on among them about it now.

And it's really making the company owners really fucking nervous.

I want to tell you about how, in response to the public hearing more about this the fascist collaborators are coming out of the woodwork to demonize drayage truckers similar to what they did with the freedom

convoy shit to say that they are petty bourgeois

because they're classified as

owner operators.

I want to explain to you clearly

and exactly what's happening.

I spent many, many years fighting these academic gatekeeping piece of shit leftists who

ingratiate themselves in institutions in order to gatekeep the possibility of any kind of

organizing on a revolutionary basis, on a genuine principled Marxist basis, and why?

Because they're part of institutions that have power. Why do these institutions have power?

Because they have money and they have grants. And where does this money and where do these grants actually

and ultimately come from they come from the labor of the american working class in particular

assuming these are american universities of course they come from the material labor of the American working class and

these scum these Pharisees these fake Marxists these fascist collaborator left liberal pieces

of shit have become far too comfortable, far too comfortable, far too arrogant, and the luxury of their

institutional power and position, which they've taken for granted, because they say, fuck you,

money's on our side.

Well, fuck you, labor's on our side. Well, fuck you, labor's on our side.

Is our message back to them.

They sit in their ivory towers.

They sit in their NGOs, their activist groups.

All of the power is downstream from financial capitalist

parasites that pay their fucking way, that pay and make sure that they are ultimately and in the final sense aligned.

You go to their university campuses.

You better not be pro-Assad.

You go to their university campuses.

You better not be fucking pro-Iran and pro-Russia and pro-Putton

because that's going to fucking piss off their J Street and their CIA sponsors of

corporate America. You better not fucking get out of line. You better not disalign yourself from

the hegemony and the consensus because the fucking money is always what's at stake and these fucking eunuchs and

these scum these pieces of shit in these universities and these institutions and these NGOs

and these organizations they're quiet like mice how their corruption culture of corruption. It's all supposed to be implicit. And you're never fucking supposed to call out and ask the basic fucking question why every single position we have as ostensible, revolutionary and radical leftists aligns in every respect with the

interests of corporate America and the imperialist egemony. Amila! Appreciate the 10. amelah appreciate the ten you're never supposed to ask these basic questions you're never

supposed to ask it's all supposed to be implicit this culture of corruption and venality.

And they snicker and they laugh because they sit atop a fucking mountain of cash that they

think falls out of the fucking sky. It doesn't fall out of the fucking sky.

If you have

it, a

trucker brought

it to you.

That didn't

fall out of

the fucking

sky.

All this

scam,

credit-boasted

fucking economy,

you know,

money,

which is king. The only thing that makes that tangible and real are the actual

workers who off the sweat and the blood and the labor tirelessly working to materially make sure that this country has a lifeline to make sure that it reaches the store shelves to make sure that the roads are paved to make sure that the roads are paved, to make sure that the infrastructure is built

and in place, to make sure the fucking oil gets out of the fucking ground, to make sure the food

and the crops are grown, to make sure that the houses, that the stores, that the cities are built and constructed

in the first place, to make sure that the cars get built, to make sure that the planes get built,

to make sure that everything that makes this country what it is at the essential level

is possible you want to talk about power the real power lies with labor not those who have money and grants. So these pieces of shit who for decades

have gate-kept Marxism to keep it separate from the masses. In conjunction directly, by the way,

with the CIA, if they are not themselves part of the CIA, which often they are, more on that in a second.

They tremble in fear.

They tremble in holy fear.

Like man trembles before the wrath of God himself. They tremble before the possibility

that these Drey's truckers, that the real working class of this country is finally going to have

the courage to stand up and have the voice to insist and assert its own real power.

And they are shitting fucking bricks right now.

And they're collaborating with the companies, and they're collaborating with the feds,

and they're doing everything in their fucking power to make sure that this doesn't lift off of the ground and gain traction and become the explosion, become the tsunami, the hurricane that this country is long overdue for having.

And that's where we are, ladies and gentlemen, ostensible so-called leftists,

siding with the capitalists and the companies,

against a unionization attempt for the drayish truckers at the port of newark

and that's where we are let the line in the sand be drawn clearly and distinctly.

I have no hatred in my heart, but boy, do I have wrath?

Boy, do I have wrath for any fucking motherfucker who's on the opposite end of that line?

Draw a distinct line in the sand.

You're with the workers or you're

an enemy of the workers.

You're with the proletarian class

or you're the class enemy.

And there's nothing in between.

There's no ambiguity and there's no gray area. It's black and white. You stand against us on this issue. You are a class enemy. You are a fascist collaborator. And you have

marked and you declared yourself as an enemy of the

movement of history itself.

Aztec appreciate you

Ladies and gentlemen we've hit a nerve and you've gotten an idea of yeah this is one of those

things that they were overlooking for a very long time strail standing these dreyaitz truckers who have been screwed over, they have among the segments of the American

working class who as a consequence of Reagan's neoliberalism were among those who were screwed

over the most. They used to have unions. All of the unions were busted. They were misclassified as independent contractors. All of their benefits were taken away. All of their health care was taken away they're riddled with

debt forced to buy their own trucks which obviously very few of them can buy wholesale without

taking on debt so if they're taking on debt do they really

own it no it's just another cost of their job it's just another expense that's

taken out of their fucking wages is the truth they say oh you're an owner and you're independent what's really going on

is that their fronting costs that are being taken from their wages and it's the oldest

trick in the book by these capitalist bloodsucker bastards, these scum who are here,

who have entrenched ties, by the way, with organized crime and the Democratic Party.

And it's been a big fucking scam that's been going on for decades and nobody gave a shit

until we came along. And we're all in as the American Communist Party. We are all in. We are all in.

And it's going to be a tough, tough battle, because you don't know how many fucking enemies we've made.

I'm not even telling you everything. We've got the black shirt, pan-leftist,

left-liberal black shirts. They're really fascist collaborators. These are the least of our

enemies. You've got organized crime. You've got entire fucking companies worth more money than you could imagine who are themselves embedded financially with the financial powers that be, frankly.

And then you've got political connections they have to the Democrats and Republicans, the Uniparty.

And we're fucking shitting up their whole scam that they've been doing without a peep.

Nobody's been paying attention. They've been getting

away with it for decades. And we're here, and we're fucking it all up for them. Why?

Because this is ground zero. This is ground zero for the movement to revive labor in this country. This is ground zero to bring the fire of working class power to these lands once again.

And you say time progresses, but the struggle of labor,

the struggle of labor is timeless.

What we are doing, generations have done already in the 50s, in the 40s

they were doing this shit.

We're picking off

something off the ground

that was discarded and ignored

and left behind

for a very long time.

And this is ground zero.

This is just the beginning.

This is the flame.

This is the spark that's going to light a fire in this country.

I told you this is the year of class struggle, and we're going to make it so. Grand Tick appreciate you. and they're really really going to try to stop us this time guys i mean it they're really

and up until this point i mean this is what they were afraid of

the entire time by the way

I want you guys to think about something

all this shit I went through

all the stupid shit I went through

being a streamer

being a content girl all this shit I did for three, four years.

Dedicating myself entirely to this. This is what it was for.

This is what it was for. This is what it was for. All I wanted, all I wanted was for Marxist to

start talking to the workers again. That's it. That's all. Everything I've done has been in service to that cause. And now it's getting

fucking real. I mean really real, you know? And I am prepared to dedicate my entire life to it

and there is nothing I am not willing to sacrifice in the service of this cause

nothing

and I want everyone especially those that are in our party to take inventory to take

note osos i appreciate it thank you brother i want you all to take note of just how precious this is. Just how precious, just how precious and delicate it is. Because if we are not strong and if we are not steadfast and if we don't have high energy and if we don't put ourselves in the

service of this cause they will squash it like a fucking bug and we absolutely now have to get serious

we've already been serious but i mean it This is going to be an ugly battle ahead.

This is going to be an ugly battle we have ahead. We are surrounded by a lot of different kinds of

enemies, but you know what?

What do we say?

What do we say?

What have we always said?

What have our people always said surrounded by enemies every which way coming from the left coming from the right

from north south east and west every which fucking way under attack. But what do we say? What did our ancestors say? The ancestors of our

cause in our movement. What did they say? They said the Red Army is the fucking strongest they said red army is the strongest and we're

gonna fucking clean sweep all these motherfuckers every which fucking way and every which direction

they come.

We're going to fucking sweep them off the face of this land, the face of this country.

We'll drive them into the Atlantic. We'll drive them into the Atlantic.

We'll drive them into the fucking Pacific.

We'll fucking shoot them up into space.

Because of all this chaos amidst all this chaos with so many belligerents so many forces

it's always the same thing history has proven the red army is the strongest Red Army is the strongest.

Red Army is

the strongest. It's the red flag.

That's going to be

planted on the highest hill,

on the highest mountain top,

over all of them.

You just have to not be a goddamn pussy

and you have to have the discipline and the strength

to be a collective force and to have collective discipline. And if you have that strength,

and if you have that courage, and if you have that perseverance, we will win, comrades. I mean it,

we will win. We are destined for victory. It is written in the fucking scrolls of history itself.

You can hear it in the wind. If you just shut the fuck up for two seconds, you can start hearing it in the wind.

You clear your mind, and it'll come to you in your dreams what's destined to happen. They want to discourage you.

They want to do everything to throw kick dirt in your eyes and throw sand in your eyes.

They want to do everything to discourage and demoralize you and just make you think

it's not even worth it. That's what they want to do to you. They want to make you feel like

it's all in vain but it's not it's really really not and you understand how shocked and surprised we were when we went to that port and we saw the overwhelmingly positive responses we did. Holy shit.

It really has always been that easy.

Nobody's been doing it for the very simple reason that these glasses wearing pieces of shit in their ivory towers and universities had too many ifs and they had too many but what about

they had too many fucking stupid qualifiers and qualifications that only came from their stupid head

that just so happened to conveniently lead them to conclusions that were devoid of risk that allowed them to keep their tenured and salaried positions their revolving door with the cia itself which all these university establishments actually and ultimately and inevitably amount to.

They didn't have the balls to take risks that ostracized them from their Pharisee gatekeeper communities. What do I have against people with glasses?

Nothing.

But I have something against people who cannot so much as open their eyes to the real world without having an institutional politically correct

filter that is fundamentally based on them lying to themselves about what reality is.

Just because it so happens to conform to some kind of convenient, hegemonic ideology that makes them feel safe and wholesome and cozy and comfortable.

They can't even face reality for what it fucking is.

They have to put on some kind of filter to deceive themselves so not literal glasses my friend

but the glasses of institutions the glasses of mainstream, which is built and which is the foundation of what is an empire of lies.

As Vladimir Vladimir, our friend, was so keen on emphasizing on that fateful night of february 22nd 2022 We're cutting off their supply of money.

We're cutting it off.

We're going to the source of the real power in this country.

People ask what's in it for you.

There's nothing wrong.

There's nothing wrong with acquiescing to real power. Real power, real mighty power is good and just always actually. Real power. So there's nothing wrong with acquiescing to real power. Real power is like a force of nature and reflects the laws of history itself. That is what's really powerful and mighty in existence. And these gatekeeping fake Marxists and fake leftists.

They think they have access to real power because they have access to the hegemony's money, but little do they know that the real power lies with the workers, the actual people for whom these streams of revenue are downstream as a consequence of their labor and their work.

Did the truckers care about race?

They didn't give a fuck about that.

We talked to truckers white, black, brown. Nobody gave a fuck about anything racial. There's no race anything. They were one working class doing the same fucking job at the same goddamn port.

And there wasn't a goddamn difference, nothing different between them.

Skin color, who gives a shit?

Not them.

Sure, it's a tool that's used to divide them, I'm sure. Oh. What were some of their reactions? They loved it.

They didn't give a shit about the communist thing.

They were super...

They went on our website.

They saw our program.

Our whole party was designed for them, for workers' went on our website, they saw our program.

Our whole party was designed for them,

for workers like them, for actual working class people.

I mean, Kyle himself was a trucker it's not ending here, by the way.

I want to also say something, and I'm going to announce it because I don't fear how the enemy is going to try to preempt this because it's already too fucking late.

In addition to organizing the truckers, let me just make this announcement directly to you,

because it's long overdue.

We're storming the campuses.

We're storming the universities.

All the way from the Ivy Leagues down to community colleges and trade schools.

It is long time that the so-called brain and elite of the nation is confronted with the supremacy of class struggle.

It's long overdue that class division and distinction and antagonism reaches the

citadels of the hegemony itself so we are making our push into the universities and how it's

going to work is that student organizations will be set up across campuses across the country local chapters will oversee these student organizations and the organizations of the students will be fully subordinated to the state chapters.

And we are going to speak at these campuses and we're going to debate at these campuses and

we're going to go to these campuses and exercise our free speech rights.

And they're not going to do a fucking thing to stop us.

Why? Because these campuses are a combination of two people.

One, the class enemy that goes on to lord over and oppress and stamp upon the people of this country, and two, students that are in debt and have no future and no promise of any future.

And we are going to give them an alternative.

And these campuses are filled with a silent majority of students, by the way, who are sick of the tyranny, of the liberal hegemony,

the liberal hegemony, which is the CIA itself, by the way. So we're going to the college campuses,

we're going to the universities, and the CIA wants to fuck with us so much on the internet in the information sphere where we're trying to reach workers and they're trying to obstruct our ability to reach workers. Okay, sure. We will bring the war to them and go directly to the college campuses.

And that's what we're going to be doing. Stay posted for more information, but here are very simple orders you should start doing discreetly. Start. When whatever state you're in your state chapter,

lay the preliminary groundwork for student organizations.

Do nothing officially yet.

Await your orders.

Be in contact with the Department of Personnel and be in contact with the Department of Education.

But lay the groundwork and prepare because we want to roll this out efficiently and we want you the chapters to basically set these organizations up. Some of you are already on campuses. If you are, you know what your orders are. They're very simple. Set up these organizations and we are going to have a two-pronged battle.

The truckers, the campuses.

Because we're sick.

We're going into the belly of the beast,

because this is where these black shirt foot soldiers of the class enemy thrive. And this is where they have created a base of operations to attack us and engage in aggression against us.

And we want a seat at the table for the debate, the national debates and discussions happening at the so-called brain brains of the country, right?

The central nervous system, if you will.

We want to seat at the table and we're going to be there, just like anyone else can, exercising their First Amendment rights.

And that's what we have in store.

We didn't even organize anything for Emery.

We organized nothing.

It was literally just me, Jackson, there was Grayson.

And we caused so much of a fucking stir just by being there.

So much of a stir.

Now we're going to actually organize this shit. Good luck to the enemy.

I've always said this and I will repeat it. If you want to stop me, there's only one way.

It's very simple. There's only one way. And you will stop me. You will not stop

this cause or this movement. Because you do that. You have a whole fucking generation that's

going to pick up my flag and plant it on top of your fucking grave. The Drey's Trucker Initiative is national.

It's just starting there.

It's going to start there.

Once that precedent is set, it's going nationwide, and we're not stopping, and we're

not relenting, and we never will.

You want to get back at the enemy? You want to crush them like the cockroaches and scum that they are?

Then keep moving forward and work, work, work.

And don't relent and don't tire.

If you're energized by this fucking stream,

you should message your fellow chapter members right fucking now

if there's nothing going on in your chapter

and get something going.

Because inactivity is always, always inexcusable.

What do you do in Canada?

We have chapters in Canada. By the way, we've just gotten started.

We have just gotten started.

And this is why, by the way, we've been dealing with all these scum, we've been utilizing

our legal, and a lot of it we already it's in motion going to be sent to

the courts we're going to have our legal battle with the scum and now we're focusing on crushing the

enemy of the working class.

And now we're focusing...

Now we're focusing on what they tried to stop us from doing in the very beginning of the year,

which was the whole purpose of their attempt at wrecking us because they're fucking feds.

Just how do I need to spell it out for you. They're fucking feds.

It's literal feds doing this shit.

Because this is the type of shit they're terrified of.

They will never move from lies in gossip.

They will never confront us in person. We will conquer the actual real

world. Our legal department will deal with the consequences of their defamation and the harm

that it does on us, and we will deal with conquering the actual country.

So that's how we're going to be going forward.

I would like to talk about Nick Land.

Maybe I should do that on the space.

So I'm going to start my space.

Nick Land, he made a thoughtful reply, and I would also like to address, well, and not um in an accusatory way or a defensive way even but i would like to engage with what he brought up um he brought something up that I would like to engage.

And because it was thoughtful,

and I think he's engaging with some stuff I have said.

And so that is something I would like to talk about and discuss. Spaces. There we go. all right we have started the confront the chairman space. I will share it on Discord. We're going to share the space right now.

So we have the space up and going.

Okay, so let me bring up Nick Land's kind of response.

Again, not like a

combative response but like

he's just kind of engaging with the topic

I want to talk about that

and then we're just going to start

bringing people up

he okay so paleo acceleration is start bringing people up he

okay so paleo

acceleration is musings

I would like to say that I am loving this new

discourse and dialogue with Nick Land

and I am very

how should I say I'm very um how should i say i'm very um honored to be a catalyst for him thinking interesting ideas

uh like this again because to tell you the truth my impression of mr land is that he is he is not

very excited about this you know ex-commentary, BS.

I think he's always been interested in this, right?

And it's just that,

you know,

um,

I guess,

so-called leftists have always been too stupid and annoying. And also,

but the tragedy is even the right are really stupid and annoying. And also, but the tragedies, even the right, are really stupid and annoying.

Like these EAC people.

And so he's never really had the, I don't think in a long time, the opportunity to really

explore the topics that I think he actually finds interesting.

I could be, this could be like too speculative on the level of, you know,

it's kind of too personal because talking about the topics he's interested in.

But what I'm trying to say, he's a very interesting thinker. It's just that it's not often he is presented with the opportunity to actually, like, discuss the substance of where he's coming from. So I will translate this to you guys in a way that I think you'll understand.

So in my stream with the Theory Underground people,

I basically talked about how Xi Jinping was the Hegelian

revenge against

what Nick Land had

kind of

portrayed China as

this hyper

accelerationist force of

de-territorialization and it's going to culminate

in a complete kind of

fracturing of

the state and the polity and it's going to lead to this kind of, you know, the whole delusian thing, body without organs and infinite work of difference and de-territorialization and so on and so on. So basically,

I said, no, actually, Xi Jinping is the revenge of Hegel and Plato, and it's like it's restoring meaningfulness to this process of the, you know, which I interpreted in that video as the destruction of individual subjectivity itself, which Land identifies with the figure of the human in general, the human security system.

Here he's calling it containment, right? So Land is saying here in response to me, or, you know, he's

musing about it, thinking

about it, is that

first of all,

capitalism is not

a goal, it's not

an ideology, it's not

something you intentionally strive for. It's the inadvertent consequence of the failure of any kind of socialism, basically. It's a very intelligent, very intelligent dialectical perspective he has.

His way of talking about capitalism

has always been profoundly dialectical.

Instead of capitalism being a self-contained system,

what capitalism is is the symptom of the failure of systems.

It's the failure of these self-contained systems.

It's always this inadvertent consequence that was never foreseen but nonetheless is is just spilling out so a land in his early writings he will draw a lot of threads between what is called capitalism incorrectly in my view i can talk about that in a second

and um the the the structure of the subject as described by freud right? So for Freud, you know, you basically have the conceits of the ego within the

conscious mind, and then you have the unconscious kind of spill out in between the cracks.

So you could just say this is like the Freudian unconscious.

The drives, Freud talks about the id or whatever, right?

Nobody wants the Freudian unconscious.

Nobody wants drives,

but they are containment failure.

They are, in LaConn's sense,

they are symptoms of the failure,

of the stability of any kind of ego or identity.

Right?

And, you know, he, his understanding of capitalism is very profound.

I don't think it's capitalism, though, and I'll explain.

But this is what he's saying, you know.

This is what Marx wrote about

in the Communist manifesto when he said,

all that is solid melt into air.

So, but he's saying that he thinks there's something interesting

about China, because in contrast to what he

believes is the overall trajectory of history. By the way, this is something else I disagree with.

He's kind of saying China's interesting because for almost the entirety of its existence, it's managed to contain this de-territorializing process of infinite difference and dynamic social disintegration and competitive disunity and so on and so on.

And it was very successful at forestalling this and so on. And it's been, it was very successful

at forestalling this

and preventing it.

And it took,

you know,

I think he's referring

to the Italian city states.

It took

something that happened in Europe for modernity to take off, right?

And then he's saying, but what made China become the kind of accelerationist

he will hate this description

accelerationist utopia

that it was after Deng Xiaoping

I'm only saying utopia in a very loose

and kind of

reckless way because I'm not necessarily

talking about

like an ideal

image of some kind of social

harmony. I'm talking about it in the sense

of like China was

the vibe. Like that was the whole

inspiration and aesthetic

and that was behind

like you know I think

Lance thinking in the early 90s just this

extremely chaotic seemingly

extremely chaotic dynamic

um

process of just unleashing the forces of the market in ways that were not beforehand

directly planned, at least from the vantage point of individual subjectivity.

And he's saying this was because of geopolitical competition and that's what pressured China into

you know embracing capital but he's basically saying that once the west started to collapse, the pressure came off from China, and it's just

returning to its old kind of ways, its old Confucian harmonious ways. And now he's anticipating

that, well, now Maga is fixing the problem of the Western decline.

So the pressure will be on and will China survive that.

He's saying, you know, is China going to be able to survive the interesting kind of, you know,

chaos that is to come as a consequence of maga? So that is what land is trying to say here,

if you don't understand. Now, I would like to offer my thoughts.

My thoughts are as follows.

I think that land is not necessarily unjustified for having made the assumption or for having associated socialism with, you know, a society that is premised by some kind of contrived subjective, um, ought. This is how things

ought to be because of some more morality. This is, uh, why, you know, things should be this way,

because it's designed better according to my perspective

and so on and so on because he is coming from the 1990s in the university of warwick in in britain

and the um just look at the leftist and the self-proclaimed socialists that he had been surrounded by.

They were definitely, you know, Fabian socialists in practice, at least.

They were subjectivistic.

They had this conception of socialism that was just based on something we want. It's the utopia we're striving for. It's going to solve all of our problems. And it's going to kind of reflect something that we have contrived as a consequence of some kind of subjective procedure or subjective conclusion we have drawn because of our feelings, because of our desires, because of our ideological

views, and so on and so on. But I would like to defend, in contrast to that, and without

anyone laughing,

the sense in which Marx and Engels insisted upon their comprehension of socialism being scientific socialism.

And I want to clarify why scientific socialism is different from bourgeois or utopian socialism, which I think land is contrasting capitalism to here.

So bourgeois socialism is in a sense always forward facing.'s always in front of you it's a goal you want to create as a consequence of some kind of ideal as a consequence of some kind of

subjectivity some kind of subjectivity, some kind of morality, whether that's democratic or collective is immaterial. It's something that ought to be that is not yet the case, okay? But scientific socialism

is actually profoundly

conservative

at least from the perspective

of a British Fabian socialist

because it is not actually saying

that we want something to be

that is not yet

rather it is saying that we want something to be that is not yet. Rather, it is saying that something is already

in the process of becoming. And those are two very different things. So land here is describing this inadvertent process by which we all we have this expectation of some kind of social harmony and social planning and a planned rational society but like sh Chernobyl, there's a failure that leads to this kind of leaking of capitalism, this inadvertent consequence, which is this runaway decoding processes of marketization and so on, right?

But I think he is overlooking a little too much what socialism actually means in the Marxist

tradition. In the Marxist tradition, you can actually flip this.

When Engels in Utopian and Scientific describes socialism, he precisely describes it in a similarly

dialectical way, where

capitalists pursuing their

individual self-interest in this

seemingly totally irrational

and chaotic market,

they're all just pursuing

their own interests. They're all just pursuing their

own immediate desires for profit but

something interesting happens inadvertently inadvertently, right?

Engels, he even uses language that's similar to land.

It's so interesting.

He says,

the invading socialist mode of production from the future actually, in a way, like, rationalizes all of these seemingly disparate and unrelated motivations of capitalist self-interest,

which inadvertently come together in a way that actually facilitates

socialism. And I think

historically that is not necessarily

an incorrect conclusion.

The tendency

of capitalism since the

19th, since the time of Engels

his writing, was toward centralization and socialization.

The increased role of state intervention and planning, planning at scales, I don't think that the real symptom is

capitalism. I think the real symptom

is socialism.

Land

is very, very correct for

identifying the primacy of symptoms

rather than kind of, you know, proportionate kind of kind of, how should i say outcomes that reflect pre-established goals or pre-established conceptions

comrade thomas thank you so much right so on the one hand you have symptoms in contrast In contrast to symptoms, you have just like, I want this, I directly get this, right? A symptom is kind of like, in the process of you trying to get what you want, you actually leak something, which shows what you are, your real drive real drive like this is what kind of what you really want actually it's almost like you know um like do you know what i mean by that it's like you, you could, uh, okay, so I don't, I don't want to be obscene and like, uh, because

Valentine's Day has passed.

So, but I'm trying to think about how I could, how it's, it's just like a Freudian slip.

Like what you really want is money or something right

but you're maybe you're a priest I'll do this in a non-obscine way let's say you're a priest

and you're preaching but then it's like through a

slip of tongue

and even the priest may not

know it he kind of reveals actually what he wants

is just money right

this is kind of a symptom

really crude way of me presenting a Lacanian symptom, versus a direct kind of correlation between a desire and what one thinks one wants versus what one really wants, right?

So he is kind of, it's the same structure,

but as applied to the scale of economic systems here, right?

Capitalism is not an economic system for land. It is more like an ontological

force that emerges as the symptom of the failure of economic systems to be even possible, right? A system is by definition kind of like self-contained, and capitalism for land across history just proves the impossibility of that.

But I don't agree. I think that it's flipped.

It's the opposite.

So I want to be like Nick Lans' evil twin, which Dugan is supposed to be, by the way.

But here, I propose the exact opposite of what he's saying it's really socialism that is the inadvertent thing that is the Chernobyl if you will

the Federal Reserve was Chernobyl you know the the emergence of imperialism, as Lenin described it, was Chernobyl.

The emergence of joint stock companies was Chernobyl.

The emergence of, you know, Amazon planning at scale is Chernobyl.

The emergence of, you know, um, and it's, it's such a profound

dialectic because you, it's, it's almost like a parallax view where you can look at it in both ways,

and it's, they're both kind of correct in a way right but that's

because there's a dialectical tension we're dealing with here in the same way that china is a socialist

country which over the scale of decades there's a lot of planning going on. From the perspective

of any plan that is comprehensible purely at the level of individual subjectivity, it appears

as if the opposite is the case, that nothing is going according to plan and everything is just chaos it's like a thing that is emerging at the expense of what we subjectively are anticipating but my challenge to land here is more or less this. Capital has a history and a form. And if capital has history and form, what he describes as capital, it is not capital any longer. It is the object that Marx and Engels identified as socialism, the object of scientific socialism.

Once capital begins to have form and has history that we can consistently identify, this thing has patterns. It's not just this force of infinite detail. It has a pattern. It's a scale. It's a civilizational pattern of reproduction. And it's a mistake to say that is just capital.

That's too abstract.

So my criticism of land is that he's too communist.

He's too communist in a way.

But the reason he's too communist is because he is proposing a kind of um notion of uh abstract communism crude communism capital here is a stand-in for abstract communism whereas concrete communism uh is like socialism in one country china the uss

and it it's uh it's what land calls capital it's the same thing but it history. It has form. It has the consistency of a pattern.

And that is what makes it human. It is a fun. It is what Dugan calls, you know, a logos.

So, um, so that is my provocative response, I guess.

If you think about it, Lanz capital is the ultimate utopian

socialist, utopian communist

communist sublime. Because

it is a pure difference

without any kind of distinctions

in and of itself.

Like, it is a pure difference between in and out.

And that is, in a way, something that could also be presented as a utopian socialist community, right?

And on the one hand, it's exclusive because it belongs to the human.

It belongs to a community of some kind.

But on the other hand, it's this basic distinction between um uh between something like um that exists in common so far as it issame versus an outside so it's like for land capital is for it's the same

thing as what the shakers and the utopian socialist settlers who came to America were creating.

Like, here's our community.

It's a pure difference where we're pure within the community.

Everyone's the same.

But then there's an outside.

There's a wilderness with a bunch of savages, as would see it and, you know, other things and heathens and infidels, whatever.

And for land, that is capital, you know, in a way.

But that is the structure at the heart of capital.

And he says as much in Kant Capital and the Prohibition of Incest, actually.

So that's my response to that.

But I don't want anyone to dismiss what he's saying,

because it is profoundly dialectical.

I mean, Chernobyl is exactly what happened after the October Revolution.

Socialism in one

country was Chernobyl.

The whole history of Marxism

is it's recording

Chernobyl's. It's recording

inadvertent

outcomes that

did in fact,

John appreciate,

inadverting outcomes,

that did in fact vindicate

the revolutionary goal,

just in a way no one anticipated

or could have possibly anticipated

and actually appeared at first as a failure, but in fact was the entire time the real goal the whole time. By the way, that is a logic baked into Marxism from the beginning.

And what everyone needs...

And you know who was working on this?

I don't know.

I didn't read his work on it, unfortunately.

But I think Ray Brassier was onto the same thing, that we have to return to the specific

distinction between Hegel and Marx.

What did Marx do that set him apart from Hegel, right? And that step is precisely that Marx regarded the real

Chernobyl was humanity itself. From the perspective of Hegel's total and rational system real humanity and the proletariat in particular was Chernobyl it was the containment failure of Hegel's rational and total system.

And Marx recognized the proletariat or the human as the ultimate subject of history and even existence.

And humanity, you know, first humanity,

and then in particular the proletariat.

And that is precisely what Marx meant by the material human, the real human, in distinction to Hegel's spirit.

It was this total kind of embarrassment and inadvertent thing that wasn't supposed to be there.

And that was the containment failure, you know?

So it's not stumbling upon W's.'s more like stick it's more like tragically

stumbling upon failures which are which are in fact ws but just in ways no one expected, right?

Now, I want to say a final thing.

I think land is wrong in a way that China is an interesting case.

China is not interesting because what happened, China was a containment failure in the same way that all of the Asiatic land empires were containment failures.

All civilizations, sorry, not failures. They were all containment operations.

All civilizations were.

The interesting case was a few moments.

Greece, the Greek moment,

and then what he describes here, which is the Italian Renaissance and Europe, that is the special thing. That's the exception. That's what needs to be investigated, really, because it's a real aberration to the norm of human history,

which is the Asiatic mode of production.

But I want land maybe if he would lower himself to such a level.

I don't know.

Maybe I don't know if he's interested in the idea of why is the chat gone?

Okay, I don't know if he's interested in the idea of the mongol modernity that the zero ruptured

fragmentation zone was a reflection of the world civilization that was created by the Mongols and the Gunpowder Empire, not necessarily

even the Mongols, the Timurid Renaissance, which is itself a kind of alternative lost modernity.

And there was some kind of strange delay between the Mongol modernity and the immediate appearance of modernity,

which happened in a dislocated,

literally dislocated and disjointed and delayed way in Europe.

And the connection was severed, at least in as far as the content of this modernity, self-consciously speaking, like it was lost. The connection was lost. It was forgotten. But nonetheless,

it was really the material foundation

for it. In the same way

that Cyrus the Great was

the foundation of the Greek moment,

which was a similar

fragmentation zone.

The foundation of the 15th century you know fragmentation zone the foundation

of

the 15th century

fragmentation zone

of the Italian

city states

was

Gingis Khan

and Tamerling

um

P Um, and the alienation between the two is what's really interesting.

And that, that is the, that should be the most interesting historical object

for communists

to think about

and if you ask

Marx and Engels

it's about

communism because Hingis Khan and Tamerlang, that was not consciously communism. That was not some kind of abstractly identified essence of sociality itself.

But the groundwork for that was inadvertently created.

Now, in general, we have states and continuous land empires and a notion of man

that is abstract and general, which the Italian city states drew out consciously,

and which you see shadows and traces of in the Timurid Renaissance,

but it never quite got to the level of Logos, right? Okay, I'm babbling now. But basically, finally, the third thing I want to talk about. Maga, I don't know. I don't think so.

I don't think we're headed for another K-wave,

because that's what it would take, another K-wave.

I think we are still firmly in the prior K-wave

of the rise of the information economy.

The only thing that's going to unlock K wave of the rise of the information economy.

The only thing that's going to unlock another K wave, so to speak, is the fusion energy, I think, the fusion energy developments that are going on in China.

But I think what Maga

is doing when it's like ripping

through all this stuff

is it is a

how should I say

ad hoc attempt at reform

right before the collapse similar to the

Shaw's white revolution

the reforms that preceded the French Revolution

so I think it's going to be civil war I think it's going to be civil war.

I think it's going to be war in general.

I don't think it's going to be like a golden age of economic,

interesting economic explosions like Trump said.

I could be wrong, though.

I'm just sharing my perspective. Anyway, that's my,

and me and Land should talk sometime. I think I heard that he's open to it.

But I'm not exactly sure.

But anyway, that is... But it's always very...

It's always an honor, you know,

if he is thinking about some of the things I said in an intellectual...

I am very tired right now.

I don't speak well.

He is taking seriously some of my ideas,

and I am very honored by it.

So that's it.

Anyway, guys,

but we should have a discussion and i i won't be aggressive i have a tendency to

be aggressive even when i'm being nice you know cut people off and stuff. But I will not be that.

But maybe I am the evil twin of...

By the way, you want to know something about Nick Land, I think?

Very good guy.

Like, really, really good guy.

He's, like, really bad and scary because he is recognizing those things.

But he is not like an asshole, I think.

But maybe I'm an asshole, but I'm a good guy in terms of what I recognize.

So it's like the evil twin thing.

Anyway, guys, enough of the comedy.

Let's bring people on for Confront the chairman.

The basic idea is that socialism is um inadvertent collective reality which arises at the expense of individual subjectivity not as a consequence of it. So, anyway, where are we here for confront the chairman?

Nobody wants to confront the chairman.

No one, not a single person. I mean, people don't confront the chairman. I just shut the stream off early and I go my merry way.

Okay, Mercury.

Let's...

Go ahead.

I'll bring...

Yeah, I can hear you.

I don't really have a concrete prompt.

Well, it's... When I argued with Logo all the time, it always came down to Stalin.

So, you know, I've always, I tell you every time I come up here, I'd love to have a long-form conversation with you sometime because I don't like the gacha game, but you're...

All right, sorry, it's just...

You've got to, like, have something in mind, all right?

I don't know what you're talking about.

L... whatever your name is, Lebon, what's going on?

Hey, what's up? How you doing? Good, how are you?

Good, thanks. So, I've always held the belief that when it comes to Marxism, Len Latinism, and Sharia as a Muslim, I think, well, I'm two things I'd like to bring up regarding some of the practices of the ACP.

And I mean, I'm not too aware of everything,

but just some things that I'd like to bring up

and recommend, I guess.

I'm of the opinion

that a globalized

industrial financial

system that we have today

that I didn't need just a long time ago

when this time was first revealed.

You can very,

very in a real way

make the case that Marxism,

Leninism is the most practical way to apply

Sharia in the modern day.

And that's just like one thing

I like to bring up

and that kind of connects in my second point of

I think there's a lot of power that can be held

in working class communities and religious institutions

like as someone who

I wouldn't usually like put this out online

but I'll just say like oh oh, from the Metro Detroit era,

you could probably assume where I'm from is the Muslim.

I recognize like the power that a lot of religious communities hold or a lot of religious circles hold in these communities.

So I guess like what is the ACP doing to kind of ground itself in a lot of religious circle of holding these communities. So I guess, like, what is the ACP doing to kind of ground itself in a lot of that?

For example, I think if, sorry, this is all kind of, like, poorly formulated, but I think

if, like, the ACP was doing more to kind of engage itself in religious communities and mosques and churches, things like that.

I think there could be a lot of productivity there.

And I guess what is, does ACP have any plan initiatives to kind of undertake that or kind of merge yourself with the religious understanding, religious essence, things like that.

Sorry, I felt like totally fondly.

No, it was really good.

You know, no objections for me about Sharia.

I agree, but I think that in America, because it's a majority Christian country, it's, I don't think communism has to be tied to Islam exclusively. I don't think so either.

That's just like one example.

Right, right, of course.

Regarding the other things, we have chapters that already work with, I mean, I agree

with everything you've said.

They already work with churches, including, in one case, I think, in Orthodox Church.

But why we have not worked with mosques and Muslim communities like Dearborn is just because the Michigan chapter is not, it doesn't have a very big presence in Metro Detroit yet.

So a lot of work needs to be done into building that up, but as of now, it just doesn't.

I do think, though, a lot of that, a lot of those connections can be made through religious communities no no i mean uh at least

it's a great entry point right but there's like the ua w and all this kind of things like that those are

you're right but i'm saying like right now it's like just a it's just a matter of like in the

michigan chapter in metro Metro Detroit there isn't

like there really isn't enough

people right now to even like go to the

mosques and recruit

or you know okay

I understand you know it is growing

and that will probably change

in the coming months but um that's kind of why uh it would be really

cool to have a deerborn chapter of the party you know in particular like not it wouldn't be separate

from the michigan chapter but like one that is mainly rooted in Dearborn and the Muslim community.

That'd be really cool.

But, uh, we just don't have the people yet, to be honest.

Yeah, no, I get that.

And I think, yeah, I know exactly what you mean.

And I don't mean to, like, take up too much your time, but like, one last point. I think, no, I get that. And I think, yeah, I know exactly what you mean. And I don't mean to, like, take up too much your time, but, like, one last point.

I think, uh, one thing, I think the biggest pushback you're going to face, because, like, again, I'm a Muslim person.

I have a lot of shit.

I have a lot of sooner friends. And one of the biggest pushbacks I get is like this thing about communism being anti-religion, quote, unquote.

Which I mean, I know you, I'm aware of your positions on all this kind of stuff.

So I know, like, you wouldn't agree.

But I come from like a really similar background to you, and so trust me when I say that I...

I know about that whole experience of being a Muslim, becoming interested in communism and Marxism, and being told what you were being told.

Like, trust me when I say that that is my whole adolescence.

I do think if you want to make those connections, though,

the most important thing to emphasize you these communities is the private property myth

that, like like you can't

have your own individual productive

domain so long as it's not antisocial

you can have your own private domain as a home

emphasizing that stuff and you know I mean

to be clear Muslim, all of the land was owned by the state.

There was no such thing as private property and land that could be alienated.

They didn't practice usury.

And, you know know the forces of exchange and trade were not they are not what dominated everything to the point where if you were not good on the market you still had land you could live off of and you could still have a way of life

and you could have a community

and like so

I mean

you know capitalism destroyed

Islamic civilization

absolutely is still trying to destroy it uh Capitalism destroyed Islamic civilization. Absolutely.

He's still trying to destroy it.

But I would say that there is a lot of philosophy that goes into reconciling Marxism with Islam.

I also think that Muslims should not be discouraged by, you know, feeling like Marxism is too alien.

Because Marxism never really did a lot to engage with Islam.

And philosophically, it is now just starting to really, in a in-depth way have a deeper understanding of religion itself.

Back then, religion meant something very specific. So religion was not a mass, well, it was a mass phenomena, but it was not being engaged with as a mass

phenomenon. It was being engaged with as a philosophical phenomena. As a philosophical phenomenon,

Marxist rejected religion because the philosophers of religion tended to be apologists for the status quo and the powers that be.

And you can also point to like the Eurocentric, you know, something like Islam, for example, is something he was not as familiar with?

But, like, I'm of the argument that his stuff.

There was no, there was no

real familiarity with Islam

Marxists. And, like,

and, like, I'm of the belief that, like, ultimately,

when you want to get into his economics and the

socio-political aspect of everything,

even if Marx doesn't know it himself,

a lot of that stuff logically concludes and stuff that's like fully aligned with this.

I always like to say, is the dialectical materialism. There's essentially the same thing.

Yeah, I mean, I guess I would say that, you know, I think that, you know, it's just the specific background.

I think we probably share it, you know, Shia from South Lebanon.

You know, we're looking at a very specific moment of the clash of a very hypermodern, you know, globalization and so on and so on, with a very traditional culture.

And I think in Lebanon itself itself it's more harmonious actually

um there's more of a reconciliation and it makes more sense but being in america it's there's a

big culture shock for sure i think that's why je Dearborn is so isolated in the way that it is.

It's just because it's like it's contained that culture shock in a way that is like rational and harmonious and it makes sense and it's comfortable and it's familiar.

But it has not yet really fully drawn out the consequences

of that specific kind of encounter.

Yeah, I do think as long as

communists are open about like,

we're not anti-religion,

we embrace religious communities,

this is in mind.

I think there's a lot of productivity that can come out of that. Like a lot. We embrace religious communities. This is in line. I think there's a lot of

productivity that can come out of that. Like a lot.

We are, we work with churches.

We would love to work with mosques.

So,

I mean, yeah, I mean, I don't know what else to say, but

yeah. Yeah, that's it.

Thank you for your time.

For sure.

All right, see you later, man.

Okay.

All right, let's bring on me.

All right, Sebastian's mic is, we're going to bring on Versailles.

Versailles, go ahead. speak I can't hear a fucking thing

Is this for Sebastian or Versauch?

Okay, I just got on

Hey man, I just wanted to ask you

I had the last caller

Had a good conversation and I'm like you

And the last caller, I'm alsolim but i converted when i was a

you know versage okay i'm versaj okay yeah so yeah i converted when i was a late teenager

and always been into that kind of spirituality and... You convert to Islam?

Yeah.

All right.

Yes, sir.

So anyways,

I've always had this preconceived notion about

communism for a long time

and that it was anti-religious.

And that's the propaganda

I understood here.

Somebody living in the West and who's

also into religion.

And I've learned lately that that's all been

a lot of propaganda lies

for whatever reason. And

the type of Marxism that's promoted

here in the West, which

reading your analysis,

especially your Marx is not woke,

made me realize a little bit

that a lot of propaganda has been

used in the West

that, you know,

and other places, other societies

of the world that have histories, such as China and Russia, where they actually did work with these places. So I think it's interesting to hear your approach and it's really refreshing. I think as the last caller said, if you reached out to churches, mosques communities,

religious, to show them that we're not against religion.

We're actually for religion and we're for civilization.

As you said before,

in your previous...

Yeah, I'd like to, you know, maybe quickly...

And then this is the last thing I want to talk about when it comes to religion.

But, you know, I'm not a priest or something.

But basically, like, in the beginning, Marxism was very, very hostile to religion when it came to religious subjectivism.

Okay, it was very hostile to that because it was a kind of philosophical idealism that said, you know, let's just, you know, I guess stick our thumb in our

ass and think about the clouds instead of real life.

And there was a hostility to kind of metaphysics and just gibbering over stupid things that were just not relevant to an immediate kind of struggle where people are dying and it's like people are on the street and it's like a very immediate.

So there was that hostility that was toward this kind of idealistic subjectivism of religious philosophers who kind of stuck their

nose in the air

and it was just

so there was an immediate dismissal

of religion in favor of real life

right

but

over the experience of communist governance and under Stalin in particular,

there was a wisdom gained where, look, okay, first of all, there's this religion thing, it's like very much ingrained in the masses. It's part of what they are. It's part of who they are. And it goes a lot deeper than this just like subjectivistic jipper. Like it goes way deeper than that. And it's very very it's like on it's a fundamental ontological

experience for example the great patriotic war people on the verge of death they really kind of

tap into like okay so this is what it was about right kind of thing and that made religion

something no longer individualistic no longer this kind of thing. And that made religion something no longer individualistic, no longer this kind of individualistic,

luxurious province of jibber jabbering, but something definitely spooky and real, you know,

something to take it.

The sacred kind of reemerges in a way, and then

Stalin comprehends that very clearly. So, you know, Stalin, he starts to begin to regard religion

as a legitimate historical phenomena. You know, he's telling Enver Hoja, he said, because Hoja's kind of cracking down on Islam, and Stalin says, listen, Islam has been

part of what these people are for hundreds and hundreds of years. Who are you to reverse

that, you know? He says, you shouldn't offend their religious feelings. It's part of their

legitimate, historically constituted existence. So then there's that kind of perspective,

like, it's part of the objectivity of history. And just like we're scientific socialists, we have to acquiesce to the laws of history

and to the real socialism, not a socialism that exists in our head, the real one. Like, this is

part of that. But then there's still a kind of distance, you know, but religion, the status of religion is elevated.

And I think that Stalinist wisdom can be taken further, you know, which is that religion doesn't need to be comprehended in the way that it was it manifested in the kind of enlightenment post-enlightenment era of western philosophy you know there's more to it than that. And there can be a materialist

religiosity, which is non-individualistic, non-subjectivistic, and it has to be united with a kind of ontological outlook.

And that is something, I think, is really interesting.

And we're just on the, we're on a cusp of a new renaissance of religious materialism, I think.

Because there are so many thinkers.

The first ones were coming from the Catholic side of things.

Yep.

Like Louis Althusser and others.

And still, it's very fashionable.

The Catholic, there's the Protestant side of of things now we kind of see orthodox

orthodoxy i know that there are traditionalist thinkers in russia who draw heavily from

ilienkov and kind of unite that with a traditionalistic orthodox outlook. And of

course it can happen with Islam as well.

So there's a, we're on the cusp of a renaissance

of religious materialism, I think.

And it will

it will not

contradict the atheism of the

Marxists of the Marxists of the, you know, Marx and Lenin, which I think was legitimate.

But it will just enrich that by saying, actually, under our noses the whole time, the religion of the masses was always materialistic, you know?

And, you know, the religious rejection of materialism as a philosophical principle,

that's really the issue, that doesn't come from religion

that comes from philosophers of religion

and philosophers of religion

really are pagans

they're not actually

coming from the religious soul

the heart of religion

they're coming from

the Greek

kind of pagan, idolatry of

ideas and thoughts.

So

that is my... Especially here in the West,

especially here in the West, where idealism is

kind of running rampant,

and it still is today. and there's this division.

I mean, look, if you ask me, the Bible is a materialistic text.

The Bible is materialist.

It is absolutely talking about the real world.

It is not...

It is, you know, what about all the supernatural stuff?

And it's like, well, they're not trying to say that.

They're trying to give expression to something very real,

you know,

which...

Yeah, I was reading somewhere a little bit...

I was...

I was...

I was reading somewhere where the Lord's Prayer was something...

Was that...

Yeah, that's Michael Hudson.

Yeah.

Right, yeah. Yeah Michael Hudson. Yeah. Right, yeah.

I mean, look, when we convey meaning, you want to know, okay, I'm going to debunk the idea that the Bible, the Quran, it's all, like, they contain supernatural claims, right?

For me to communicate ideas to you, I'm not always using language that reflects empiricism.

So, for example, when I, if I tell you, the cat's out of the bag.

Like, am I actually talking about a fucking cat in a bag? No, I'm trying to tell you the cat's out of the bag like am I actually talking about a fucking cat

in a bag? No, I'm trying to tell

you like, you know, like

the truth is out, you know?

Or when I, you know, when I use an expression,

when I, when I'm writing in a book and I say, you know,

even, there's even words whose etymology we don't even

remember anymore but which actually mean things empirically that totally contradict the

meaning in which they're being used to describe so for example i could be like writing a book, let's say, and I could say, um, I could say, uh, you know, he, he embarked upon a journey to convince as many people as possible, and he casted a very wide net over the masses.

I'm actually fucking saying he's using a literal net

you know, to like actually

like a literal, no, I'm not.

I'm using a figure of speech.

So you see that, a lot of that is in the Bible, you know? It's not just metaphors. It's like ways of talking about things and communicating meaningful things about reality that made sense to the people who live during that time, but which don't necessarily make sense to us today.

So, yeah, like capital.

If I talk about capital,

I have a lot of capital.

And then 500 years from now,

they're like, oh,

capital meant cattle, because we traced the etymology of cats.

It's like, well, I didn't mean a fucking cow.

It's just like the etymology of the word.

So religion is actually materialist.

These are materialistic texts.

And they were obscured and distorted by charlatans to trick people anyway Versauch, thank you so much for coming on but that's the last thing about religion

I'm going to be talking about. Cat person.

Go ahead.

What was I going to say?

What are the...

What is it called?

I wrote this down, but...

What are the...

Gosh darn it.

Can't find it.

What are the right uh where is the acp's the aces planned for arkansas if they have any um good question i think uh we our chapters are pretty decentralized so right now we have no central plans for arkansas but um we have a guy in the politburo who's from arkansas you know so we we have a presence in flyover states you know we're in it we're by no means an exclusively coastal phenomena.

So

plans are coming, I guess, I would say.

Okay.

And

section

A of

section 1A

of the thing

the

I don't know

what's the

different roles

of the executive

yeah

what's the different like executive board roles what do they do exactly so we have the department of personnel we have the department of education we've got the media department and we've got the treasury department we have the international department

where could i read more about the different departments and what they do we i don't think

we've published that in a really super accessible way yet, but I think we're planning on that for reasons you're asking, you know, because people are interested.

Okay.

I think that was all I was going to ask.

Thanks for answering.

Thank you.

All right, Sebastian.

Last chance. And then this is the last guy, guys.

Go ahead.

Hello, can you hear me?

Yeah. All right, so I just want to, for a moment, just contribute to the Marxist materialism conversation

by saying that, you know, materialism for me has always been a world,struck, like a world-a-worlding.

So, embedding, like, social critique, political action into our way of understanding of material reality.

So ideological critique is part of materialism.

And that's one of the things I think people should really study Al Thuzei a little bit more.

I don't really agree, but I'm not too interested in...

I mean, this is just to confront the chairman,

so let's keep about ACP.

All right, so my

issue that I want to bring up,

I brought up last week,

which I didn't have any

evidence for, but this time I'm more prepared.

I wanted to start off the debate, if that's what the, I was going to have a discussion at first, but then I'll go back to the debate.

The debate was, last time I asked you about the Chinese offshore bank accounts, and I asked you to give me the benefit of the doubt regarding the evidence in that situation. And you did not. Can you, can you, I think that's kind of important

to give people the benefit of doubt,

especially when we don't have the evidence on hand.

We are all working under the fog of war.

I just removed him because, like, I'm sorry, but this is about the ACP.

I don't want to fucking have a conversation about the metaphysics of the benefit of the doubt.

I would like you to bring up some concrete questions or accusations or something about the party.

Oh, fuck.

It's like, yeah, this is like

why feds are the ones that

exclusively target us,

because no actual, like, human being, like,

really gives a fuck to attack our party.

It's literally just like people pay to do it

and they get their bodied shit.

Like nobody will actually fucking confront me.

You know, see something. You know, All right.

I think we're done here.

Shown.

Go ahead.

What's up? What's up?

All right, so a few years ago, this is ACP related, I would think, because it reflects your views, but maybe these are just your views.

You said that you can't reduce love down to an equation or metrics in general. that right something like that i don't i'm not being

paid to talk about this kind of shit like what is what is this what is this? What is this?

What is this?

I'm too busy for this shit. I straight up am.

I'm too busy. I'm just too busy.

Like, what the fuck?

How is that related to the party at all?

Ha!

Confront the chairman.

Like, why the hell? people are always saying so much

and I just wish one person would actually like confront us about it. Go ahead, Gott. Last guy. Hi, um, are, did you call on me?

Yes, I did.

Because I can't hear you anymore.

I did, I did.

Can you get the phone out of the toilet?

I do have a question for you.

Go ahead. for you go ahead go ahead

go ahead Go ahead.

What is this? What is your question? All right. Can you guys hear me? Thumbs up if you can hear me or if I'm muted in the space.

All right, you guys can hear me. All right.

So this is a troll? What's the point?

Well, I don't question and I'm just not going to say shit.

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two

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they're gone

right I have two requests that I cannot see.

Oh boy. I have two requests that I cannot see.

Oh boy.

I deal with so much stupid as shit, man. All right. but I shit.

All right.

All right, let me see.

All right, they're back.

Go ahead.

Hey, I'm sorry.

I think something happened.

I had to leave and come back.

I do have a question about ACP, though.

All right, go ahead.

Just wondering what ACP's

plan is

for gaining political

power because I do

see

that the party is gaining momentum, but do you have a specific strategy or a timeline laid out?

Okay, yeah, that's not a bad question.

So, um, we, uh, our strategy is basically based in the idea of dual power. So we don't think we have a chance of overthrowing the government, but we think that there are contradictions propelling the USA to constitutional crisis and dissolution and in some form or another civil war.

Just a level of disruption and chaos that will probably disrupt life

such that it will be difficult

for people to get on

with their normal routine

of things

without a lot of chaos

and uncertainty and so on, so we'd like

to build

a footing locally in communities and establish ourselves as

legitimate leaders that can actually organize people.

And I mean, how do we think we can do that i well i think that

putting oneself selflessly in the service of a collective principle is the stuff out of which

you know um the leadership of a state comes from you know, um, the leadership of a state comes from, you know?

If you can have an organization dedicated to leading people, um,

selflessly, by the way,

and, um, organizing them.

I think that will go a long way if it's competent enough, if it's consistent enough, if it's done on a scientific basis.

So when you learn from the experience of the October revolution and the Mao's revolution, you know, it's always been dual power. That was the key to actually seizing power. Not necessarily some adventuristic, like, overthrowing of the state. Now now the person who did do that was uh castro and chay

they actually did just straight up like you know they got off on a boat and they just straight up over through the

government but that was also a form of dual power in a way that a lot of people don't often appreciate because Che's focal theory was very much based in building a presence in the countryside to encircle the cities and build power in rural places, armed power, basically.

You know, I'm not advocating that's illegal.

But I'm just saying that was a form of dual power as well when you think about it.

The coercive power of the state was something that was in a way like a dual power was made relative to that because it was a military dictatorship of Batista

in that case. So, um, dual power is basically the short answer. You can look at some of the things we do,

community service. We're building good standing within communities. We want to get involved in local politics. We're getting involved in labor organizing. Having a good standing with America's truckers and, you know, workers, it's very important to any strategy for something like that.

That's my short answer, I guess. Okay. So, we're going to say going once, going twice, going once, going twice.

Shown, you can come back for one second.

Go ahead.

If you talk about anything, cringe your band.

Go ahead.

Go ahead. All right right i'm back up uh do you want me to just cut to the chase instead um okay uh i think that uh you're going about treating these uh we'll call them,

incels.

You're treating these incels as if there's some... if what you're saying is true

and I debated you like three years ago

and you're still talking about the in-cell crisis as if it's like a serious thing or whatever

if that's where you're coming from it's like it's been three fucking years? You waited to get into this space.

It's such a big problem for you.

It's like, fuck.

What do you want from me? You know, Do you know how stupid that shit sounds?

Can you think about if...

Imagine a hundred years ago.

Over a hundred years ago. Let's say a hundred years ago over a hundred years let's say 105

110 years ago

you meet

Lenin

and he gives you the time of day

and you're sitting in a cafe or something

he's expecting you have

some important information. You have something interesting, important to say. You sit down in person.

You get up a chair. You sit down. You go, we need to talk about the mathematics of incells.

And he's going to say, what's an in-cell?

He says, well, it's dudes that can't get pussy.

He would stare at you for 35 seconds in silence.

Then you would have your ass beat and you'd be tossed out of the cafe into a

garbage

dump

and discarded

as a

crazy person

okay

so

all I did

was remove

you from

the space

that's all I'm

saying

all right

but I All I did was remove you from the space. That's all I'm saying. All right.

But it's like a lot of stupid shit I deal with all the time is my problem.

You know, like I deal with a lot of dumbass shit because I'm on the internet where anyone can say anything.

Um, anyone can say anything um not go ahead Yo!

Unmute!

Unmute Fuck this

Fuck this shit

Fuck this

We're done

We're done with the whole space

Done with the whole space.

Maybe I'll go live

Sunday.

The space is done.

Space is over.

All right.

It's over.

There we go. You know, guys, these, these, uh, confront the chairman spaces, they're getting a little old, okay? They're getting a little

fucking old because it's like, nobody actually confronts the chairman, all right?

Nobody actually confronts the chairman what do you mean I need an assistant what are you talking about?

That shit is so true, though. I do need a fucking assistant.

That is not wrong.

But you know what you need for an assistant?

You need money.

Okay?

We're not quite at that level.

Maybe one day.

I can hire a secretary.

Yeah, deal with a lot of dumb ass shit. Um Um You know, Being my assistant would be a fucking nightmare Being my secretary would be a fucking nightmare

Straight up

It would be a nightmare for anyone.

It would literally be like hell. No, you couldn't survive. Nobody could survive that. I'm not even kidding. Yeah, that's not a good idea.

Um, that guy came on he's like

years ago you said love can't be a mathematical formula

what

and then he comes back on he's like

look I'll cut to the chase.

I was thinking he's going to like this profound, he's going to somehow, like, say something about the party and like, you know, the metaphysics of party structure.

I don't know.

He's like,

when you're saying that all these in cells,

it's like, what?

What the fuck?

You know what I'm interested in

how does that relate to the mathematics

the mathematical

formula of love

I want to know like what

he's cooking

but I actually don't

but I just...

It's so bizarre. yeah yeah yeah yeah a lot of boring people came up though talking about nothing such a shame

such a shame you have a free assistant for me from the USSR.

Zoya, thank you so much, but I do not think anyone could survive being an assistant for me.

It would not...

It's so...

Lowity!

Have you talking about the shakers?

No, I just know of the shakers off the top of my head as one of the examples of, like,

utopian socialist communities in America.

One of the things an assistant would have to do is like write emails, but I could never trust anyone

to write an email for me

because it's just not me

it doesn't sound like me

so I'm just going to wait for AI

hyperabundant solar energy

I don't it's going gonna be fusion, okay?

It's not a K-wave.

K-wave is like fusion energy type of shit. Wow. You know, Fusion energy is the future.

Fusion energy is the future definitely we are stuck in a paradigm of energy that is very like outdated and stupid and that is holding a lot back

I want you guys to just think about fucking gaming PCs sometimes I check in on the

world of gaming PCs not because I'll ever get one. But because

I remember when I used to shop

for them,

I have the one that I have now

when I first started streaming, because I was

anticipating that I'd be playing some games

on Twitch.

I really never did.

But sometimes I like check it out to see what's going on.

And I like, I notice how like how inefficient they are with power.

It's like fucking crazy.

It's like they're super big and loud and they take up so much power and i'm like you know we are really stuck with old energy paradigms right now and i think that's going to be the next big thing i mean

by the way that's always the thing with k waves is that they

start with energy revolutions steam engine and then you know from the steam engine you get i don't know

the fucking trains you know and then you started to have uh combustion engines combined with uh oil

versus coal and electricity and that you know automobiles came from that.

And then, you know, we, um,

we started to get going with nuclear power.

And then from electricity, you know, we had digital,

um, uh, technologies.

And then, uh, we have the information age.

And it's like we're due for a revolution in energy you know i think solar is retarded

and it's not going to be that big but i could be wrong i know china's investing a lot in it

i from what i know about the power grids that solar depends upon or whatever, it's like not super efficient.

AI is not, is the least impressive thing because AI was, you know, AI is like old.

Way older than you think that.'s all about algorithms and it all the

all the a whole AI paradigm is from the cybernetics the cybernetic paradigm that

began in the 50s okay so that the AI is just it's a logical consequence of something that was very old.

It's not a K wave, a new K wave.

It's just, we're just drawing out something that was always there.

A real K wave is like something you didn't expect, You know, something that wasn't predestined necessarily, but it's going to change up the whole paradigm.

That's a real K-wave, you know?

AI is just kind of like, yeah, you're taking it to...

I mean, put it this way.

In 1970, they knew that we were going to have

the AI we have now, you know?

You know, it's not super impressive to me.

I mean, I remember AI.

We all knew AI was coming

in the way that it has.

Yeah, they were talking about neural networks in the 80s.

It's really nothing that new.

It's just that's a quantitative thing.

You know, like everyone knew it was just the chips have to get smaller and they have to get better.

And, you know, they have the processors have to get more and they have to get better and you know they have the processors have to get more um

more uh what would be the word more transistors i don't know They have to get smarter.

I hate saying smarter, but whatever.

Efficient.

More computing power.

Yeah, they have to be able to compute more.

So, you know, we knew that.

We fucking knew that.

You know, nothing is new.

Fusion energy will unleash a lot of new things that we do not currently anticipate.

If we have fusion energy...

But put it this way, fusion energy...

Is going to change up the game so much

because

how small can these fusion reactors get?

We don't fucking know.

We don't know.

Like, what's the limit?

And Um... And there's going to be so many new small inventions with respect to transportation, personal consumption and use that we can't even imagine or envisage or anticipate right now because we're not operating within a paradigm of energy use that just makes that a logical natural

consequence makes that a logical natural consequence. Anyway, guys, we're going to wrap it up right now, and I'm going to end the stream.

So... So

We're going to wrap it up. We're going to wrap it up.

We're going to wrap it up.

We're going to wrap it up.

Your orders, two things.

Ramp it up with the party.

I've got to tell you that explicitly.

Ramp it up.

Now is not the time to relax.

But two, still, the Info War, still.

Always. We're never, ever going to abandon the fight against the online class enemy, so to speak. we're never going to abandon that fight you're

always going to have to be vigilant combating lies and bullshit about us but now it's possible to also focus

on um possible to also focus on, um, you know, the positive stuff.

We have completely destroyed the ringleaders um to it they've taken a severe blow like big time i mean

they are just totally fucking wrecked but until we finish it legally you know we're going to still have to be dealing with it to some extent.

More like side quests, you know.

But anyway, guys, I will see you soon.

Bye-bye.

See you later.

Bye-bye. See you later. Bye-bye.

Am I forgetting something?

No.

I have a surprise coming. And you'll hear more about it tomorrow.

Bye-bye.