Russia's Next Move
2022-09-12
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I need a fucking haircut
I have some special things in store for
today's stream
so basically let me tell you guys
something what if I told you that Mar
is going to be debating some vegans and
we get to watch
think about that think about that think
about that Mar debating
vegans thank you so much 2022.
Mar debating vegans
and we get to watch
ew we got content tonight we got content
tonight
so yeah we have that
and by the way we're on Twitch so Mar is
Unleashed I mean we're on YouTube so Mar
is fully Unleashed Mar is fully
Unleashed we are on YouTube not on
Twitch so we don't have to give a fuck
about twitch's fucking cringe fucking ah
yeah you can't fucking just shut the
fuck up all right we're on YouTube all
right we don't have to deal with any
bullshit
we don't have to deal with any bullshit
today oh guys can I tell you guys
something can I tell you guys something
cause you're not gonna fucking believe
it so first of all
first of all
yeah I mean uh yeah I mean
you know I don't know if you guys know
this
I'm gonna let you absorb it and kind of
take it in
but I don't know if you guys are aware
of this or if like you're familiar with
this or you know about this all right
with me
oh
shit I don't know how am I gonna present
this right I'm famous
I'm fucking famous let me tell you guys
why I'm fucking famous so I ordered some
food
and I was literally FaceTime I was
talking to Jackson on the phone I was
literally ordering food with a phone in
my hand so I go get the food
I'll go to the door to grab the food
and then
the dude hands me the food and he goes
oh hey Haas
and I was like okay
and I was like huh
so so he goes oh hey Haas and then I was
like oh okay I was like wait a second
what the fuck
so my Uber Eats driver
recognize me
my Uber each driver recognized me
it's never happened in my whole life
that has never happened in my entire
life okay that has never happened in my
whole life
so I step outside
and I asked this guy like a billion
questions like oh how do you know me
like I guess because I've never I've
I've never been recognized before
so apparently he like you know he he's
he's a viewer and he watches Jackson too
and I was like so how'd you find me and
he's like oh the Mongol meme
and
it was so crazy that's never happened to
me before that has never happened to you
before
so he recognized me and it's like I'm in
the most random place in the fucking
world so it's like I can't believe he
recognized me okay so
um
that was that was so strange right
that was so strange
but I I like I quizzed it right I asked
him like so many questions like oh like
what's the last video you watched thank
you everyone was watching infrared on
the bus and someone approached her and
was like that us
what what
all right I'm starting to think more
people recognize me
Then I then I uh then approached me I'm
starting to think I do get recognized
but people are just too shy or something
to like approach me because like there's
no way right there's I imagine I'm I'm
getting ubereats it's never happened to
me my whole life and I'm not that famous
okay I ghetto breeds and I'm recognized
oh my God I'm famous
but I mean when I was in LA you think
people didn't recognize me people
recognize me all right people recognize
me
and that's probably why I almost I
always get into near altercations when I
go to bars and shit because
people see Haas but they don't want to
say oh that's Haas right
but I like that guy the guy who reads
driver who's super cool
um
and I was I'm glad this is like a viewer
right I'm glad that this is the kind of
guy that's a viewer because
just a straight up solid dude normal
dude no mental illness no Insanity no
like cringe nothing just like a normal
dude normal straight up dude
and
I'm proud of that proud of that fact
that those are the type of people that
watch me but I it's never happened to me
before I got recognized I'm famous
oh shit oh who chat who oh chat oh yeah
this is the chat right oh yeah you guys
I don't know if you guys know this but
like I'm famous and shit it's like I
don't really know you guys I don't I
don't really amirio who's that okay uh
you know who's who's Orville who's
Jennifer right who's who's what's rtsg I
don't know any of you guys I'm famous
guys I'm sorry right hold on give me a
second give me a sec give me a second
hello oh yeah
hey what's up Kim nah cam I can't do
that to Kanye you know I'm gonna see uh
I'm gonna see
I'm gonna see easy you know
in a few days and I can't do that to him
Kim I'm sorry
I'm sorry Kim yeah you don't don't argue
with me about it because you know it is
what it is
but I'm Gonna Be Seeing easy in a few
days and I just can't do that to you all
right nah sorry all right all right I
hung up yeah don't worry about that guys
just like my friends you know I made new
friends recently and uh oh you're still
here like oh I guess you're still here
like you guys know where the door is
because like I'm actually famous now and
like I I don't really know you guys that
well like who are you right uh hold on I
got a phone call come on give me a
second
oh hey what's up
oh what's up
yeah
I agree yeah
yeah I'm going I'm going to the mansion
party too yeah yeah I got invited
you know
oh Tyra's gonna be there Tyra
oh yeah Tyra Banks yeah I got it yeah
well tell her I said hi cause I'm gonna
be there soon
oh I left my shoes at her house oh yeah
I left Barefoot yeah don't worry about
it
um was she saying I stole from her I
mean you tell that raggedy bitch I
didn't steal a damn thing from her she's
basically irrelevant now why would I
fucking steal from her okay I'm famous
and oh yeah just because I'm like up and
coming and I'm just newly discovered
she's gonna start accusing me of
stealing and shit oh I get it it's
racism you think I'm like Aladdin in the
40 thieves or some shit just because I'm
Arab you think I'm a thief and you think
I'm stole from her house what does she
think I stole exactly tell me what you
think she thinks I stole
what
she's saying I stole the lamp Okay that
is racism this guy I'm Aladdin in the 40
thieves and I'm stealing lamps and shit
I stole her land I didn't steal nothing
you tell that raggedy irrelevant bitch
that she better not put accusations on
my name again
or I'm gonna call her music producer I'm
gonna say Tyra Banks is done she's not
gonna be on the radio no more she's not
going to be appearing on TV no more
nothing if she keeps putting bullshit on
my name
and has Aldine ain't no Thief I'm not I
don't get you know I don't get
recognized by my ubereats driver to be
going through these accusations all
right I get recognized by my Uber driver
you know that right and my Uber Eats
driver you know that right
I get recognized so I don't need to be
going through this bullshit when I'm a
high status male who's getting
recognized in public all right I don't
need to be going through this bullshit
no fuck you I don't give a fuck I call
him call him call him you know what fuck
you I'm calling Obama right now
yo Barack yo Barack yo Barack where's
Sasha
by the way where's Sasha fine as hell
man you know oh shit man
oh shit man y'all Barack take care man
bye was I calling everybody more I don't
know guys I don't know it's like this is
the life of the Rich and Famous I don't
know what to tell you I'm famous
basically and uh you know
it just says what it is that's just how
it is right I'm a famous dude now and
like seeing I can't really chill with
like these
with the crew The Who right
but anyway yeah I'm a famous guy now I'm
famous as fuck oh hold on hold on
give me a second one last call
uh oh Volo the mirror what is it
no zelensky I don't have any fucking
money it's all on my credit card I don't
have spare change
go to an ATM I don't know where an ATM
is zelinsky tell me where to fucking go
for an ATM
oh my God I gave you 20 yesterday what
did you do with the 20 I gave you you
want more
I have just defeated the Russians in a
Cardiff if you give me more money then I
will be able to finish the final blow
you know what zalesky I'm tired of your
bullshit all right you threw 20 000
troops at the Russians he basically blew
your whole load
you wasted it all just for the 60 you
know it's bullshit you're like you're
like a you're an addict okay I'm not
gonna buy what are you gonna do in a
week or two what are you gonna do in a
month when when you know they strike
back at you after you blew your load
what are you gonna do zielinski and us
we are victorious
please give me more money I don't know
what you're doing with this fucking
money Frankly Speaking and I've been
told my close contacts have been telling
me you've been spending this money on
some pretty you know you're giving it to
your friends and your friend groups and
these are these are not good people
zielinski all right I have to tell you
this these are not good friends that you
have that you're associating with
um would you do your mother know about
this your father know about these groups
you're associating with
just have to get to none of them
yeah they have a swastika tattoo or two
but they're just misunderstood
their democracy loving
um they are just basically Ukrainian
Patriots
they're not Nazis zielinsky all right
zorinski don't fucking bullshit me here
right you're hanging out with the wrong
crowd you're taking money from me I
don't know what you're doing but your
mother I talked to her the other day she
would shed tears if she knew the bad
things you've been up to all right and
you know what you got to get clean you
gotta lay off the drugs you gotta stop
associating with these bad bad people
zielinski and stop calling me for more
money because I don't have any for you
all right
do you have any shame
please I will defeat Putin if you just
give me 20 more dollars no I don't have
I don't have twenty dollars zielinski
I'm sorry I don't I don't I don't have
twenty dollars and even if I did I
wouldn't spend it on you you're a
disgrace you're a shame shame on you I
believed in you I when you were three
years old I said that he's gonna be an
astronaut one day and what did you what
did you turn out to be turned out to be
a fucking crackhead
don't don't call I'm blocking this
number bye all right guys sorry that was
a long phone call
and I'm famous now so you know the
strangest people that you would least
expect are calling my phone now and
yeah so I have to tell them how it is
straight up
I have to tell them straight up how it
is but you got to be harsh on people all
right you have to it's called tough love
it's called tough love for a reason and
why is it called tough love it's called
tough love
because
you can't just let people on the loose
and let them do whatever the fuck you
want if you really care about your
friends you got to tell them straight up
okay
um called pokemane
but who
who
I'm sorry who
were you what I don't know what it was I
used an inside joke or something I don't
know what that is but
yeah
no I mean the Hollywood Life is it's
tolling you know
it's quite the tool
it's quite the toll on my mental health
it's quite the tool on all kinds of
health and everything in between and
Under the Sun and under the whatever
right but anyway
um
so yeah I got recognized by my Uber Eats
delivery person driver thank you so much
w11 zelenski needs this
w11
I also want to give my thoughts
I'm not gonna do this I'm not gonna do
this joke sorry I'm not gonna do this
joke it's in bad taste
it's in my taste but you know something
interesting happened today so on
Instagram
I shared this meme on Instagram
all right
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so I shared that to my story on
Instagram
and I got a DM
I'm gonna find his exact DM
but I gotta like weird DM I got a DM
on Instagram for doing that and this
dude he goes do you think insulting the
queen like that is funny
yes
I mean what I I do think it's funny
fuck the queen
fuck the literally fuck the queen yes I
do find it funny
all right I don't know why people you
think I'm gonna be a conservative uh you
know
I'm gonna you know a lot I'm gonna call
shit out a lot of conservatives Tucker
Carlson the wrestling they're being
cocks about this queen thing all right
you're not a fucking American
conservative if you're mourning the
queen or you're respecting the fucking
Queen you're a liberal you're a global
anglo-liberal who wants the
anglo-liberal British pirate empire to
like you respect it and venerate it for
some fucking reason Beyond me but the
the queen who the fuck is that all right
and if I was Britney saying huh you're
insulting British people no I'm fucking
not I'm actually helping British people
you know what if you're British grow
some fucking balls
and fuck that monarchy grow some fucking
balls you're literally paying taxes for
that fucking monarchy you know the
British people grow some balls and fight
that monarchy all right
that's all I got you know it's it's it's
it's incredible it's incredible all
right that that monarchy is a complete
fraud it's a fraudulent institution it's
a fraudulent fake monarchy it's not even
a real monarchy you know a real monarchy
I look either have a real monarchy or
don't okay but don't do this fucking
cringe ceremonial dumb bullshit you know
Jordan Peterson he gave this thing he
gave this speech where he was like
this is where it's Z I'm calling out
Jordan now too right you this is the red
line for me right I'm gonna I'm gonna
critique people over this shit
so I was watching Jordan Peterson and
this dude Jordan he goes
one of the great things about the crown
is that when I was in Michigan Northern
Michigan
Trump came into the room and and the
crowd was just wow it was just oh my God
it was wild and I was crazy
and I thought to myself and I thought
in in Britain they don't treat their
Prime Ministers that way because the
symbolic way is with the crown but in
America the symbolic weight is with the
president yeah because he's supposed to
be a real fucking leader Jordan
that's why I like America because our
president is supposed to actually be an
executive Authority like a king right
but it's elected so they're supposed to
have all the symbolic weight because
it's our fucking leader
it's our actual leader it's fucking
satanic to separate symbolic Authority
from political Authority that is fucking
satanic and evil okay there's one leader
there's a leader you're either the
leader or you're not a fucking leader
this whole symbolic shit where we're
just gonna sit here and pretend to
respect this Authority that has no
Authority is just fucking cringe
said all right Mar is getting ready to
debate these people
and we are in for quite the treat we are
in for quite the treat okay
but yeah I have to I have to call
bullshit out when I see it and the
responses to the Queens you know what it
is it's a knee-jerk reaction because the
left is all celebrating the queen based
on identity politics so people get the
best oh I have to defend the queen
because the left's attacking her no you
fucking don't okay
you can just ignore leftists did you
know that wait did you guys know that
you can like
you can actually just ignore leftist did
you know that it's crazy you can
actually ignore them you don't have to
Define your politics strictly based on
them yeah Mara is going to be debating
why is he he's pinging me
um
my mods had no reason to assume this
person was associated with you uh
they'll ask for evidence no I mean they
are associated with me
um let's do it guys let's get into the
debate now I know the post is the title
is Click bait but we are going to get
into the Russian stuff
most likely after Jackson's viewers get
here if Jackson raids me but we'll see
right but this is kind of more important
and I want to hear this I want to see
this so guys we're gonna we're gonna uh
okay I'm joining now joining now
all right Mar is going to be debating
vegans let's fucking tune in all right
let's tune in
all right Haas are you there yep
okay can nobody else interject from
infrared side during this debate unless
it's unless it's hot as because Haslam
you know runs infrared uh because uh you
know I prefer it to be me against a
bunch of vegans but uh basically uh we
will as everybody who joined this is
being streamed you can see the stream in
the uh General chat uh before we begin I
just want to say uh how you should look
at announcements of uh ask yourself said
apologies to infrared my mods had no
reason to assume this person was
associated with you yeah Mar is uh yeah
Mara is a special agent of the infrared
communities that's right that's right
infrared Shin betin he's the head he's
the head Rabbi of our community so yes
he is
Yeah so basically uh we'll be arguing
with any of the vegans in this voice
call or anybody really uh why veganism
is a moral according to God himself the
infinite creator of the world
so you can dispute you can even dispute
for example how we know uh What God Says
and how we know what he does not say and
so on and so forth and we can argue
about that but for anybody who's a vegan
they won't argue the position go ahead
okay um
so well so where do you think God says
that veganism is Immortal even if we
grant that God exists
where he says that you have to listen to
his Commandments in Deuteronomy 29 uh
one of his Commandments being that you
have to slaughter and sacrifice animals
in the temple and also that Jews must
consume meat on the Sabbath
wait where does he say Jews I must
consume meat on the Sabbath and the
temple the temple is no longer around
so why would that continue to apply
because of the fact
because of the fact that in the days
first of all regardless of the temple
not being around even in the days of the
Messiah right the temple will be
re-established and we'll perform
sacrifices again
secondly you can't argue right that for
it was ever immoral to slaughter or
sacrifice an animal because the fact
that God had decreeded moral in the days
of the temple Let's do let's say that
one adopt a more restrictive view where
they don't say that it's never moral to
squad or an animal they say that the
overwhelming majority of animals that
are slaughtered today are Immortal given
the Fairly grisly conditions on factory
farms animals living short lives and
intense suffering
um frequently you know I mean for
example 80 of Pigs Can't get pneumonia
by the time there's tent to squatter
because they're forced to live in PCs
for such a large portion of their life
do you think that that feel is
inconsistent with uh I don't think an
animal should be treated terribly like
that no but I do think that it's okay to
cut an animal at the jugular vein and
then proceed to eat it's because that's
what God says okay but but you you don't
think that it's okay to mistreat an
animal that way so yeah
so are you opposed to the overwhelming
majority of animal consumption worldwide
if it comes from factory farm animals
that are importantly mistreat uh sure
but I do think it's okay to still uh
Slaughter an animal from the jugular
vein and consume it okay but so you and
I agree about the 99 of cases
sure kosher Farms though we'll be
focusing on kosher Farms well but the
kosher Farms so the question label only
describes
um you know the way the animal's water
doesn't
um like there are also yes the majority
of kosher institutions that people could
already eat from I uh I don't take from
these uh how would you say
uh I don't what do you call them again
you call them factory farms we usually
have our own Farms where we use our own
cattle
statistics
okay even then though the main point is
is that it's okay to slaughter and eat
an animal not necessarily whether or not
like what they're doing on like Farms is
okay
well but the if the Farms if what you're
paying for when you pay for meat is
you're paying for the animals to be bred
into existence be horribly mistreated in
a way that you agree is impermissible
the overwhelming majority of cases and
would you agree that the overwhelming
majority of meat eaten in the U.S is
immortal
uh okay uh then I'll raise my own cattle
and I will slaughter a cow from the
jugular vein and then eat it on the
Sabbath okay do you agree that the
overwhelming majority of meats that's
eaten in the U.S is Immortal uh probably
but I will still I was still like
Slaughter an animal like a cow from it
yeah you've reiterated that several
times okay so I know but I'm just saying
I'm not talking about factory farms I'm
talking about whether or not it's moral
to eat an animal to kill and eat an
animal according to God himself yeah so
I mean one thing is I think that you and
I just have an extraordinary amount of
common ground and that you know I think
that
um you know their edge cases about
whether it's ever okay to eat meat but I
think that the thing that we agree on is
just in the overwhelming majority of
cases it's not okay to eat meat even
that the overwhelming majority of
animals just with these terrible lives
before being killed in horrible ways
so
but I mean it's so sad I'm still gonna
eat them though I want my burger yeah go
ahead but you're only going to eat the
ones that you think but you're not gonna
eat the 99 that come from factory farms
that's right okay sure I don't know why
we keep going on at the factory farms
like we've already covered oh he eats
only kosher he only eats girls I eat
pastries I eat people well there's like
a local there's like a local place that
I get my meat from as in like the where
they locally raise and Slaughter the
animals yeah
well so so your claim is that on the
basis of God existing
um
uh that that God said that it's okay to
eat meat well so one I would just I
would dispute that God said anything
um okay they want to talk about that
yeah well so I think that one thing that
I think rules out God is the problem of
evil
um so
um so I mean
I think that if we just consider you
know the fact that for billions of years
before humans were ever around animals
live short lives been tense suffering we
consider the presence of natural evil I
think that's incompatible
uh with um with
uh factory farming or so that that's
incompatible with a perfect God
so you think that because factory farms
are wrong God can't exist no I uh I'm I
was describing the that both suffering
that occurs to humans that's unnecessary
and gratuitous from things like diseases
and also the vast amounts of wild
animals suffer okay so you think because
there's immorality a God can't exist I
think that they're because there's
gratuitous evil God
um look here's the thing right God is a
proven fact and we can get into the
proof but he's a proven fact sort of
like how you know the sky existing is a
proven fact whether or not like you know
somebody mistreats an animal somewhere
or like I don't know a baby dies of
starvation doesn't negate that God
exists it's like saying two plus two
equals five because of the fact that I
don't know my kid died so if you want to
get into the proof that the god of the
Bible specifically exists or no well
yeah we can in a moment but just I think
that the problem of evil is a pretty
good argument against God so it's not
analogous in the case of there being bad
things therefore if two plus two playing
Five because of course two plus two we
have uh two well one we I think we have
less reasons they call exists than that
two plus two equals five but also two
plus two equaling four wouldn't prevent
evil but we would expect God not to
bring it out gratuitous suffering
um so there's vast amounts of suffering
that has
that does not serve some greater purpose
than we'd expect God to prevent it
um in much the same way that if you were
a mortal agent and you didn't prevent
you know just vast amounts of children
from being killed we would think that
you were not not in fact perfectly moral
agent
um I mean like I said everything that
God does is moral and I just said
whether or not you know bad things
happen does not negate the existence of
a proven fact like I said like I said we
can get into the proof we can get into
the we needed to get heated non-circular
obviously you start start getting hot
the thing is is that I'm just once again
I'm just going to say this again because
I'm not arguing on the basis of my own
personal like view beliefs about
morality or whatever uh there being bad
things on the earth there's not negate
an existing fact just like how like I
said child starvation doesn't mean that
two plus two equals five it doesn't
suggest an imperfection in God it just
means that God caused that to happen
because God is the infinite cause of
every single thing
okay
so do you accept
that a perfectly moral being
would not cause gratuitous suffering
uh no
okay so and do know what a gratuitous
suffering is in this context it's
suffering that doesn't have a great a
greater reason
I'm sorry what did you say it's
suffering that is no just victory reason
um so you're saying that a moral being
would not cause unjust suffering
um right suffering that has no reason
that justifies it okay well God is the
Reason God is an infinite being he had
knowledge that those things would be
caused by himself from eternity past his
opponent is not change as a result of
this uh it's just a fact that God caused
those things to happen
but I don't understand why uh like I
said like we need to get to the proof
that God exists really because otherwise
we're not going to have any objective
argument unless we get to the proof yeah
well what I'm currently presenting is a
disproof
it's not a disproof it's sort of just
like an opinion like morality is
completely subjective honestly like a
personal belief uh sort of like I like I
don't know sort of like your favorite
color
uh you know unless you have something
objective to base it off of which is of
course you know an infinite being
so like I said do you want to get to the
proof that like God exists and that God
causes these things or do you want to
sort of just keep saying like subjective
stuff that like something's wrong I
don't think it's subject well one I
would deny the notion that if there's no
God
there can't be objective morality but
two if you think there's objective
morality and we think that that
objective morality one of the things
that that objective morality would
entail is there was a would be a god it
would not cause pointless gratuitous
suffering who said it's pointless if God
did it it's not pointless the cause
itself is god so let's imagine that
there was just that there that God
created a world that was just infinite
beings being infinitely tortured for all
of eternity
Justified God Did It Justified God did
it wait do you think that that would be
a Justified if God did it yeah God did
it if an infinite being bro here's the
thing an infinite being has knowledge of
every single thing meaning whatever an
infinite being is decrees is the best
possible decree that could be made on
account of the fact that it's that it on
account of the fact that it's doing it
off of an endless basis not on the basis
of something which has limited
perception like human beings which they
can only observe limited factors they
can only observe a in a smaller specific
or set number of things and therefore
can't have a full and complete picture
of what is true of what is pure reality
God because of the fact that he's
infinite knowledge has a full and
complete picture of what actually is
complete pure reality right meaning
whatever he decrees to happen on the
Earth right is the best decree secondly
like I said I can easily prove that God
is the cause of all these things we can
get into the proof right now if you want
like I would like to have some uh you're
moving away from the problem of evil
it's not a problem of evil it's more
like uh it's honestly it literally
sounds like
well this is a disproof right so problem
of evil
um so
I mean what you said instead of being
with infinite knowledge that they that
they would know what the right thing is
but of course you're confusing two
things so one thing is whether or not
they would know what the right thing is
and then they would do the thing that's
right as a result of knowing that that
seems plausible
um but then the other question is
whether or not
um
whether or not
things that they would do would be
justified merely because they did it so
if we think that so if if we think that
that there's a difference between it
being the beautiful being such that they
do their own thing and the right thing
just being whatever says
um and so on your account if it's just
whatever the being says then then the
being then if God had decreed that that
it was good to cause infinite suffering
or changing no facts about the world
while not you know making suffering
um but they would still be in some way
Justified merely because God did it yeah
that seems really implausible look like
I said what this okay you can't really
Define something as Justified or
unjustified objectively unless you have
a real basis for it otherwise it's sort
of just like talking about your
preferences I prefer people don't die I
don't want children destroy the idea of
morality itself comes from a Divine
beings like I said uh you know aside
from discussing preferences the fact I
can prove to you that an infinite being
does these things and as a result it's a
literal fact that it's a literal fact
that this is being done in Infinite
Wisdom secondly an infinite being on
account of the fact that it's one does
not have the ability to contradict
itself
so if it was so for example if an
infinite being declared I am all moral I
am all-powerful I created the entirety
of the universe and he proved that he
was almost that he was powerful that he
created the universe everything I do you
shall submit to everything I do is just
Etc that would mean that literally from
infinite knowledge every single thing he
does is just you can't really say that
infinite knowledge right and infinite
will is like uh something subjective
why couldn't you have a being with
infinite knowledge do the wrong thing
because the fact that that would imply
some sort of limit in him
every single thing that he does is good
and I'll explain why okay first of all
every single thing that he does was
inevitable to happen why was every
single thing that he does inevitable to
happen anyways
the reason why is because the fact that
God has you know because of these
infinite this means that he also has
infinite knowledge if he has infinite
knowledge this means that he always knew
from eternally past meaning infinitely
from even before the existence of
creation that every single thing that
has happened on the earth which is
caused by him what it would inevitably
happen now considering that he is the
cause of all things this means that
every single thing which exists on the
Earth was inevitable to happen at the
infinite level meaning it is literally
just a fact of reality that God who is
inherently objective on account of the
fact that he is infinite right uh cause
these things to happen
so but like I said can we please move on
to the evidence because otherwise we're
just debating preferences
well no you're not debating preferences
you're debating against the argument
which is the problem
um
no you are yeah for you as a preference
though that's the thing you want to know
well no I think I do have an objective
basis I think that our well I think my
the objective basis for Morality In the
absence of God is on greater ground than
the objective basis with a God so so in
virtue of what does God ground objective
morality
in virtue of what does God ground
objective morality what does that even
mean like what how does God ground
object morality okay well once again
what does that mean what is ground
objective morality where you say that
God is the source of objection morality
so how how does God do that he says
something is moral
and why does why does him saying it make
it more
because of the fact that he's infinite
meaning every single thing he did was
from objective infinite knowledge I keep
saying this over and over again I don't
understand can you explain to me how an
infinite being could for example be like
wrong about something
well I don't think that they could be
factually wrong I think they could
possibly be morally wrong so then if he
says that something is he says
wait a second wait a second wait a
second if he says that something morally
wrong and he says everything I do and I
cause is good or is for the good and so
on and so forth then this means that it
is not factually wrong that what he is
doing is good well that that's that
shows that God could know what that's
good but in what how does it but
everything he does is good that's sort
of the point well no it shows that God
knows what the good thing is assuming
there is a good thing but no I mean once
again it's if he says every single thing
I do is good okay okay now the thing is
is that everything he ordains and is the
ultimate cause of every single thing
that everything meaning that every
single thing that happens is ultimately
for the good every single thing that God
does is for the good Etc he's saying
that in infinite knowledge he's not
saying that like from some subjective
limited basis well if God decreed that
their infinite knowledge or sorry if God
decreed that there were true
contradictions God the point is that God
couldn't decree that there were true
contradictions if there are not true
contradictions and so similarly God
could only decree that there was
objective morality there were some
independent basis for objective morality
um and so because there's no so God
could know what the objection reality is
if there was an external objective
reality I'm sorry himself provided a
basis for the objective
God says what I do okay once again God
is infinite God is infinite knowledge he
says in infant knowledge everything I do
is good meaning Every Act he makes is
good Infinity is inherently objective
everything you just said made zero sense
Infinity is objective Infinity is
inherently objective yes an infinite
being who knows every single thing
causes every single thing decrees every
single thing Etc is objective yes
well I I don't even I don't know what it
means to say that something is objective
simplicator
like I understand what it means
here we go with the simplicators here we
go the simplicators but I don't know
what it means to say something is just
objective
okay God is uh everything God says is
objectively true is that what you want
me to say I'm saying God is an objective
basis
okay so if everything but but is it true
because God says it or does God yes it's
true because God says it
God okay so God could say false things
and then they would become true
no he would he's literally and he only
inherently says things which are true
okay so God says things what is it the
falsehood is not a thing falsehood is
just the lacking of Truth like it's like
saying can God create nothing everything
that God says is inherently true yeah
okay but so if there was something that
was not true for external reasons could
God say it and then make it true so
could God could God say if I if like for
example right um God say that there are
true contradictions and then make it so
that there are true contribution no
because they caught the contradictions
inherently cannot exist well okay so an
anti-realist so if you think that absent
God and morality could not exist okay
once again I uh you keep debating this
once again I've already can you please
respond just I want you to tell me
really quickly very simply how can
infinite being be wrong
write down things that an infinity
so if an infinite being for example what
I am saying is moral then that means
whatever or whatever what I'm saying
what I'm doing is moral right
uh then that means whatever he's saying
and doing is moral
right
okay so then let's move on to how we
know so I agree that if an infinite
being said that then the thing is that
they were saying and doing would be
moral okay second thing second thing
second thing second thing second thing
the things that they were saying and
doing were not moral that would cause a
constraints okay okay hold on hold on
hold on is God saying I decree that
eating meat is moral okay was that a
contradiction can eating meat be moral
um
well I think eating meat can be moral
okay so then it's not a contradiction
meaning what you're debating about this
contradiction thing and so on and so
forth it's completely the contradiction
thing wasn't enough and if all we need
to do is just prove that an infinite
being said that
well no so the contradiction thing that
was an analogy
yeah
some things all that if something's
independently ruled out it's
independently impossible then God cannot
make it so that it is the case yeah well
it's not impossible for God to decree
eating Meats immoral so do you want to
get on to the proof about that or no
well no it is if we think that morality
cannot exist
no it is if we think that morality
cannot exist
I'm sorry that's gibberish like look
you're confusing you're confusing the
direction of the explanation so the
reason why God would decree things that
are moral is because God correctly
identifies the fact that they are moral
he doesn't make them moral which means
that God cannot okay fine eating meat is
moral and the proof for this is that God
said so there that's the best way to
work okay but I think the problem of
evil rules that's the possibility of God
exist uh I'm sorry but God inherently
proved that the basis for what is good
and evil is God we know that because
he's infinite no we just established
because
um
because God knows things are not good
because God decrees it whether if God
existed that God would decree it because
it's good you're mixing up the order of
explanation
um no if inherently every okay here's
something right God infinitely knew from
eternity past what he would say is going
what he would say is bad hence like I
said previously at an infinite level
right or at a objective level as a
result everything that God says is good
everything that everything is good sorry
everything that God says is good is good
everything that God says is bad is bad
now once again God declaring the ability
to eat meat is not a contradiction God
declaring the ability to kill is not a
contradiction God's saying what he does
is moral this includes decreeing famine
starvation genocide Etc if he does it is
moral and so on and so forth that's not
a contradiction so claimed that it was a
country well you can't really okay well
you can't really suggest that any of the
things that we're debating about right
now or really any of the things that God
has done right is a kind I'm so cute so
I like as a result look at me guys
certainly very Contin
about moral preferences instead of
objective morality but proving that
something is objectively moral it's not
moral preferences right it is moral
preferences tell me right now wait tell
me right now why going next to my going
to my next door neighbor and shooting
him is immoral
that would cause suffering okay why is
that why is it my why is it uh immoral
to cause suffering
well that is it a fact about the nature
of suffering why is that a fact about
the nature of suffering that it's
immoral what makes it no there's no
deeper account any more than there's a
deeper account of why one plus one
equals two
um
you're just calling something immoral
for a circular reason one plus one is
two actually you can break it down into
different proofs you can prove one plus
one equals two okay however you can't
but here that something is immoral
because when your reality has no
objective definition accordingly well
you're gonna but you're gonna have some
axioms that you can't prove except by
Reliance on other Axiom so the the
starting set of vaccines are again at
these things can you please prove to me
that killing somebody my next door
neighbor for no reason is immoral anyway
just to explain the reason why it's a
floral okay can you do it again in like
with actual evidence please well because
it causes suffering okay why is
suffering immoral wait what if it was a
painless death what if it caused no
suffering ma'am
it would also detract from future
well-being
um okay why is doing that immoral I
don't see anything wrong with that right
because well-being is good
cause well-being is good why is
well-being good I think it's bad I think
it's
well what if they had like a shitty life
and like they were destined for a life
of pain and suffering
well then I think they're they're
plausible like consequentialist reasons
to in general you can go just shoot
people now what well let me go you know
let me go like dude let me go like shoot
up a damn like Walmart or something bro
listen I think all those people are like
gonna be like yucky white supremacist or
something that's yikes
you see there's some axles that's so
yikes
there's some axioms here there's a very
axiomatic uh sophistic syllogistic
reasoning here that at the essence not
killing people is immoral okay very
axiomatic yes sir so anyways
we would evaluate the plausibility of
the axioms well could you please tell me
why killing someone is immoral I I like
killing a baby why is that a more look
I've just explained several times you
haven't you're just saying it's immoral
because it's immoral well no I said it's
immoral because it's a cause of
suffering and attraction well yeah what
if no one would okay so why is that
immoral well because well-being what if
no one will suffer what if the baby
won't suffer and it its family doesn't
care about it from where will be it
how do you know what if the baby how do
you know because the baby could have a
shitty life because being with hat tend
to have well-being and I'm sorry why is
it good to provide well-being I'm sorry
but if they're like what if the baby is
like in a really inevitably like shitty
environment that will make well-being
impossible for it what if what if the
baby is preventing me from getting my
ready to hold
look there are very good
consequentialist reasons to be opposed
killing people
well what is the baby is preventing me
from getting my Reddit Gold
um that's the baby's like hosting
abortion my well-being so I have to go
kill the baby post Reddit yeah you know
what you know I'm just gonna let me put
on my uh anti-natalist jacket right now
I think that we should do postpartum
abortions having babies is immoral
well so I think so I think that the
anti-nailist physician doesn't
um you know it doesn't turn out to be
correct for utilitarians and we consider
the facts about the average well-being
of future people
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um why should I give future people
well-being
well to the extent that you don't you
get a variety of implausible
consequences uh why should I why are any
of those consequences bad like why why
what if I want to cause a genocide I
think that it's good to cause a genocide
well you'd you'd be mistaken why would I
be mistaken where's the contradiction in
thinking genocide is good well there's
no contradiction but it turns out that
you would be wrong about whether causing
genocide is good because why why is it
bad causes suffering and detract from
well why is why is suffering bad can you
so I'm like can you please like list out
in a series of points wife suffering is
objectively bad according to you it's
just an intrinsic fact about the nature
of suffering there's no deeper account
anymore there's a deeper account of the
most foundational mathematical actions
oh my goodness imagine if I said that
two plus two equals four and somebody
asked me to prove it and like you know
instead of like taking two things and
putting them together and saying look
it's four I just said it's an intrinsic
attribute whatever fuck you said it's an
intrinsic it's an intrinsic attribute of
the nature of two plus two being four
there's no other axiomatic perspective
whatever the hell
so we could also say you know logic Lord
if a person says why it's suffering bad
you could now expose them to suffering
and then ask them if it if it feels bad
they would uh okay I think it's good
that they feel quote bad I think it's
good that you know according to you no
God exists physical world the only the
physical world exists all I'd be doing
is emulating their nerves all I'd be
doing is I just literally be stimulating
their nerves bro according to you I
don't think about it the physical I
don't think only the physical exists so
I'm I'm a duelist
uh you're a duelist
so you think that there's like two
deities that exist like a good one
no I'm a dualist about Consciousness so
I think
okay well uh Mr duelist about
Consciousness tell me why tell me why
shooting my neighbor for no reason is
bad okay we're going in circles because
you're asking not because of me not
because of me bro I want to get to the
proof I want to get some of the evidence
go ahead get the go go okay so we can so
I'm just asking for confirmation because
clearly I'm clearly I'm like uh you know
under underdeveloped caveman who uh is a
humble in front of the Lord of logic
okay am I am I it is a permitted
permissible for me sir to continue to
prove the Bible is divine to you yeah go
ahead
okay
before we begin I'm gonna have to just
lay out very simple principles do you
think a million people could lie about
the exact same thing at the exact same
time
um
uh I mean what depends on how we Define
live but probably not uh okay probably
not
okay the second thing
hmm I mean it would depend on the thing
but I think in general you know
okay second thing so we've established
that you don't think that a nation of
people for example somebody at the level
like millions of a million people or so
or the size of a Nation at least
that they could not all tell the same
lie okay that's that you know
intentionally and so on and so forth
that's uh seemingly impossible
now here's the thing
the Jewish people and our relation to
the Torah in the Torah it mentions that
there were millions of witnesses to the
event of Mount Sinai now how do we know
that this is not just some book written
by some guy thousands of years ago right
saying you know a million people saw
this event and so on and so forth
the reason why is because of the fact
that the Jewish people of whom there are
millions today attested that before them
all around the world millions of people
received this Torah from the previous
civilization of millions from the
previous generation of the same
civilization which numbered in the
Millions they also attested to this day
that that generation told them that the
same thing happened is that the same
thing happened in the previous
generation before them and that the
previous generation attested to the same
thing that happened in this generation
in relation to the generation before
them each generation being enumerated
you know composing an entire nation of
people not just a small town or a little
Community or like six people or 60 or 60
000 or 600 but rather millions of people
receiving the Torah for millions of
people all the way until the origin
point which was Mount Sinai
now the thing is is that at Mount Sinai
they convert them the the millions of
people confirmed that everything which
was described in the Torah is an
accurate representation of what they had
seen
some of these things include uh you know
some of these things include Mana coming
down from the sky for everybody to eat
uh fire a pillar of fire Leading the
People through the desert right the
splitting of the sea for example and
also my favorite one
the tearing open of the very fabric of
physical reality itself
so each of these things were attested to
by Millions two millions in every single
generation until Sinai establishing to
us right that we establishing to us that
we know for a fact that the Torah has
not been fabricated or made up by
somebody along the way rather millions
in one place at the same time attested
the same event and transmitted this
Torah or transmitted this testimony over
to Millions without any sort of variance
or contradiction
now the thing is is that this is similar
to your uh this is similar to the uh
science worshipers uh peer review
where for example they require multiple
scientists right to look over their
infra-qualified so-called scientists to
look over the results of an experiment
that they did right and verify that both
the process that they used to come to
this conclusion and the result itself
line up with each other and our
objective and are true and so on and so
forth
so now imagine that being done instead
of just by I don't know five people 10
people 15 people on a paper but rather
by millions of people in every single
generation
okay all the way until the original
event which was witnessed by millions so
what is your response
what's the evidence that things were
passed down from the first generation
second generation directly and from this
a million people say that they received
the Torah from the previous generation
which numbered in the Millions
those million people say hold on hold on
hold on those million people say that
they received the Torah the pre from the
previous generation who also numbered in
the Millions
the generation before them also said the
exact same thing that generation said
the same thing that generation said the
same thing Etc all the way until Sinai
so because this generation which is made
up of millions attest to the fact that
the generation before them right also
attached it to there being millions of
people you know millions of people
transmitted the Torah to their hands in
the exact same way that has been
transmitted to us and that testimony is
repeated every single generation from
Millions to millions in unbroken
transmission all the way until Sinai
that's how we know the first Generations
transmitted it to these second
generations and so on and so forth sort
of like the idea of a chain yeah well
but how do we how do we know that any of
this took place
I just told you how Millions well how do
how do we know that millions of people
had tested
how do we know that I just okay go to
okay so you are in the current
generation millions of Jews today keep
the Torah they keep its Commandments and
they also attest for example every
Monday Thursday and Friday when we read
out well actually really every day of
the week when we read out the Liturgy
three times a day that we received this
tour from Mount Sinai and that we also
received it from our father you know
from our forefathers in every single
generation every single Jew even if he
is a heretic for example like reformed
person or an atheist and so on and so
forth right they will still attest to
the fact that in the generations before
them whether it be their father their
grandfather their great-grandfather they
kept the Commandments right and they
also kept the they also participated in
the ritual Ava testing or multiple
different rituals of attesting that each
generation before you had passed down
the Torah and affirmed the Torah to you
right in every single generation until
your time
um well but so
but okay so that that explains how we
know no so
we have Generations so we have evidence
from the current generation that there
was passed down from our previous
generation but I I'm not sure how we get
reliable information
about uh ten Generations oh God Muhammad
is the messenger of God you're not sure
how we get reliable information from 10
Generations ago oh no well I'm not sure
how we get reliable information about
the events at allegedly happened inside
no that were written down several
hundred years after the events I just
told you how millions of people not only
attested to the actual events themselves
but they also attested to The Unbroken
transmission of the event from millions
in a ritualistic way every single
generation people can people attesting
to that now they're attested they're not
just the testing to it now it's not just
a testing to it now but it's a million
people attesting now that a million
people before them transmitted the tour
to them and that they also transmitted
to them right the actual that they also
transmitted to them that they received
it for Millions before them and that
they also received the testimony of the
transmission of both the Torah and the
idea and the fact of the transmission
itself from Millions to Millions all the
way from Mount Sinai as a result of this
we know that millions of people always
transmitted the Torah as we have
millions of living witnesses to its
transmission saying that millions of
living Witnesses before them said the
exact same thing that we are saying
today until the current generation
but how do we know that they were saying
that same thing say eight Generations
ago because a million people said okay
so here count it count count with me
this generation has millions of people
so that's this one generation you're
making me repeat the same thing but you
know what if anybody if anybody you know
hates you hearing the same thing again
feel free to leave
this generation of people which is
numbered in the millions a test that the
generation before them which also
numbered in the millions right so that's
now two generations transmitted the
Torah to them they also attested that
they received from that same number of
millions the testimony to the
transmission of the Torah until that
second generation by the third
generation which also numbered the
millions the third generation which
numbered in the millions right attested
that they received the Torah also from
the fourth generation the exact same way
alongside the testimony of the
transmission
from the fourth generation I'm telling
you a million people said that a million
people said that a million people said
that a million probably until the eighth
generation that millions of people
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in Yemen and also having the exact same
history of the Taurus transmission
as the Jews in lithuanians use in Yemen
and so on and so forth are testing that
millions of people pass down this Torah
in every single generation meaning one
generation of millions getting you know
gave it over to another generation of
millions in unbroken fashion all the way
until the exact same time that we stood
at Mount Sinai right then no it wasn't
watered down over time because you'd
have to suggest that for example entire
nation of people all agreed to water
down the same story and transmit to the
people after them for example if you
were to suggest that let's say six
people came to the nation of the Jews
and they said this Torah came from Mount
Sinai right they would also have to say
in order to convince them to nationally
transmit this thing right I want to make
them nationally transmit the same
tradition you'd also have to say all of
your forefathers in every single
generation before you gave this Torah
over to you meaning that they raised you
every second of your life of your of
your lives in all the ways of this Torah
every single one of you all in these
same rituals and the same traditions and
so on and so forth from the East to the
West Etc
so they would they wouldn't judge this
you know this group of people whoever
they may be trying to quote water down
the story they wouldn't just have to
convince a nation of people that their
ancestors were doing something but
they'd also have to convince they would
also have to convince a nation of people
that they were wrong about the past
seven six five four Decades of their
lives in which they've been living
around people and since they were raised
as children
because there are two things which are
nationally transmitted the Torah and the
National Transmission the Torah which
are attested to by millions in every
single generation
look I I we're going in circles we do
not have evidence that indicates that
there was this unbroken chain we only
tell me okay I'm sorry you just you keep
taking what I'm saying and then you just
can tell that's how it happens can you
demonstrate why millions of people
saying the exact same thing about what
millions of people said is not evidence
when did millions of people agree to lie
well no it's not that millions of people
didn't agree to lie it's that over time
there was a story that became agreed
upon
um no no no no millions of people said
oh my goodness you're making me repeat
the same thing millions of people said
that millions of people said that
Millions already said this exact same
story was passed down in every single
generation
that is that is what's being established
not not for example oh it's not you know
like it's not for example saying well
then this story caught on at some point
right and like you know we all just you
know liked it or whatever it is we all
just we know that look we know that we
have some number of generations that are
that have it that have a chain of
telling the stories but we have no
evidence that the CH that the number of
generations that tells the story is an
unbroken chain going
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okay I'm just gonna get to the point
uh a chain of transmission works by one
reliable person a recounting that he
receives a tradition from another
reliable person
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not making money from this debate at all
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kidding I'm just kidding let's continue
the chain also received the tradition of
every single Link in the chain before
them right until themselves meaning that
one person says that this person said
that this person said that this person
said that this person said meaning that
the end of the chain that was all the
previous names of the transmitters now
the thing is is that you all you now the
thing is is now convert that into
numbers of witnesses you know individual
Witnesses you now have no wins
considering the number the number of
witnesses right to the transmission of
the Torah is millions of people from
millions of people not just saying not
just saying right that we got it from 60
people and that 60 people became low 600
or that we don't know the specific
numbers of transmitters in the
generation but saying specifically every
single one of the Jewish people then
they should attesting that their father
not or that each of their fathers not
only transmitted to them the Torah but
they also transmitted to them the fact
that they heard from the previous
generation right that this tour was
transmitted in the exact same way that
we received in this generation meaning
both the actual tradition itself and the
recounting of its transmission were
received by millions of people to
millions of people all the way until
Mount Sinai you can't just say oh that's
not evidence because of the fact that
millions of people attest to millions of
people establishing an unbroken witness
to The Unbroken chain of witness
testimony
the fact that we have millions of people
attesting that they're that there are
millions of previous generations Omni is
not a good debater omni's not good at
this he's really bad well in each
previous generation omni's doing a
really bad job we don't have evidence
for millions of people in each previous
generation yes we do we have evidence
for millions of people in some previous
generations no we have evidence for
millions of people in every single
generation transmitting the Torah but
what's the evidence for that
okay making me repeat myself man a
million so using every single Jewish so
healing the Jewish population is spread
throughout the Earth yes
the Jewish population attest to the fact
right that is not just to the Torah not
just the transmission of the Torah but
it also attests to uh they also attest
to the Gathering of the Jewish people in
one place right or in a series of places
right the entirety I think I think Omni
already lost let's get Avion
yeah I'll bring Avi I'll debate Avi
yeah yeah let's get all of you on I
think I think Omni has proven his he's
lost that's my I'm the only judge and I
judge the domini lost bring Avion I'm
gonna say one more point it the argument
isn't just that like for example you'd
have to convince a nation that their
ancestors all did something thousands of
years ago but you'd have to convince a
nation not only that their ancestor did
something thousands of years ago but
that they received that story they
received that story of their ancestors
doing something thousands of years ago
from the direct generation before them
collectively not just like a few people
believing it but the fullness of the
generation transmitting it to them
directly
so that that's the difference it's not
just saying you know we believe a story
because a million people said that this
story happened but that a million people
also attest to the transmission of the
story of millions of witnesses broken
Millions dude for a million you received
for Millions
the aura itself the transmission and the
number of witnesses is what is attest to
or the size of the people you know uh
giving the testimony which is to the
size of a Nation to the size of a
civilization and so on and so forth
I mean I yeah we've I feel like we've
sort of discussed but your your criteria
of evidence is basically does a secular
academic say so that's sort of like the
reality you kind of you're not really
addressing the fact you're not
addressing both the at the stage that
there's not just attestation to the
story but that there is jet like literal
National attestation to the story and to
its unbroken National Transmission
meaning that at some point you have to
see that a whole nation lied you need to
address that point yeah I look there's
so many infrared people listening in
this VC why why
um
you can watch it on stream but Avi
believes in something stupid I'm sorry I
don't know if he's in the VC but Avi if
you're in the VC that's a really dumb
point that he is Avi wrote in the chat
if the point one if the general
generational transmission the tour is
robust then either the tour is made up
in such a way that it's implausible for
the implausible or the tour is true the
generation of the generational
transmission the tour is robust that's
the second Point conclusion either the
Torah is made up in such a way that that
it's implausible the Torah is true Abby
could you unmute and explain why the
quote generational transmission of Torah
is robust what does the word robust mean
by the way I don't even know what that
means yeah so by robust I mean uh as you
say that they're
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the transmission
uh at any point in these Generations
uh they're not bottlenecked at a few
chains
so roughly what are you talking about
what am I talking about what I'm talking
about we need to be more specific
because one of the like I said right
there's two things
it's not just a matter of chain
transmission but it's the matter that a
nation always testified that a nation
had always transmitted this Torah yeah
well that's but again that's just what I
that's just what I mean when I say
robust okay so elaborate on how
elaborate on how the transmission of the
Torah is dysfunctional please
you know is is good but not that good
what is robust
Okay so
I mean the strong and healthy or
vigorous uh right which me which I mean
that's the general term but uh but uh by
robust in this context they just mean
that chains
yeah so
robust is a good thing it's not a it's
it's a strong thing not a bad word okay
yeah I don't know if the English is the
your second line your second one it is
it is my uh third language but
but so you believe in the tour you
believe in the tour yes
uh what do you mean when I believe in
charge if you're saying that the
transmission you're saying that the
transmission of the Torah is sufficient
that's what I am no I'm just trying to
re-render the argument that's all
okay so do you believe
so the context of of that um
of that quote when you saw me writing it
is what I'm trying to do there is I'm
not trying to attack your argument
anything I'm just trying to accurately
represent it
so what I what I'm doing is I'm trying
to formalize what you're saying yeah
yeah okay okay so you're saying that my
argument is that the Torah right is that
the the transmission the Torah is
sufficient right and that because the
transmission of the tour is sufficient
back to its original Witnesses it's
either made up in a way that's
implausible or it's true
yeah but essentially well
sufficient I'd use the word robust and
by robust I mean that it's uh that
there's many different generational
links that yes at the same uh I hear you
I'm sorry I hear you I hear you yeah so
do you believe in the Torah or not let's
just get to that then yeah I don't
believe that the claims in the Torah are
true but I'm just trying to render all
I'm trying to do right now yes you've
ended it you've ended it though you've
rendered it well I I'd like to render it
to the point where you agree with that
with my rendering so
but in other words that you've signed
off on what you're saying this is a
formal representation of the of your
argument
okay do you confess that the trend you
personally do you confess the
transmission of the Torah at the
national level is sufficient
uh I don't know
okay you're Jewish yes yes Sam well when
you say Jewish do you mean
you're you son of Israel or no you are
Jewish or no you mean oh see me not
ethnically so yes yes
okay did your grandfather keep PESA
uh no did your great grandfather keep
this
I'm not sure
okay go to your cousins right and ask
them for example if you have any
religious cousins
right that's I I actually don't have any
religious cousins okay find somebody
you're related to right who can attest
whether it be a grandparent that's a lie
or a parent that's alive Etc I think
rather than rather than asking about my
cousins I think a more productive
conversation would be trying to render
your arguments and representing it
accurately and then my argument is that
the argument I'll just do really quickly
my idea is that millions of people have
transmitted the Torah from Millions from
Millions from Millions from Millions
until the original generation meaning
because millions of people because
I literally don't get that
I mean like you want the you want it you
want if if you're Mexican it's not
racist
people but if you're not Mexican it's
probably weird if you if you just want
to eat if you just want to be served
food
by your own culture that's there's
nothing wrong with that but if there's I
don't know what does that even mean I
don't know what that fucking means I
hear it from their own eyes and so on
and so forth
what does that mean okay
yeah yeah so so
what so I'm familiar with the argument
uh or at least various different forms
of it what you're describing is called
the kusary argument
sure who's the who's that you've heard
of the kuzuri right yes okay
the issue by the way the reason I'm I'm
craving some sound at first glance
Tex-Mex sounds a little bit bothered
dude I'm craving some tacos some tacos
and some freaking quesadillas tell me
your different version tell me the
different versions oh there's this place
oh my God it's so fucking good they have
this dessert I'm gonna get fat man I'm
thinking about it I'm thinking about it
that's different I'm thinking about it
it's not it's not open right now hi guys
Taco Bell is fucking Godfather
Taco Bell oh my god when they got that
those tacos with the crunchy and the
soft and the chalupas don't get me
started with the chalupas man don't get
me started with the chalupas
uh Taco Bell's fucking voted I don't
give a fuck what anyone says what's with
a common thing among them is essentially
the things that you're saying but the
point is that what you've said is a
natural language and what I'd like to do
is I'd like to formalize it
so that I can precisely understand what
are the differences between their two
arguments
I love Mexican food like I eat Taco Bell
all the time I have like tacos and it's
so good I love Mexican food yes yeah you
could say I'm pretty Multicultural it
exists between I got a Taco Bell and get
the Baja Blast it's an indigenous
Mexican so I'd have to cocktail Mountain
Dew Baja Blast and Taco Bell is I'm
totally Multicultural
I love Taco Bell so much I don't really
remember them exactly offhand but I
don't remember them being identical I
can okay fine fine so just tell me
really quickly why don't we get a
fucking Arab Taco Bell why don't we get
it the same way when Taco Bell is for
Mexican food I actually want a fast food
Arabic version of the argument I
actually do imagine that yes imagine how
good that would be yeah yeah okay
imagine how good that would be so tell
me just tell me really quickly tell me
at what specific point did a nation of
people agree to lie
well I don't know if that's I don't know
if so I don't know if I agree with
either premise so I even if even if a
nation of people never agreed to lie
um
I don't know that your argument would be
sound because remember there's two
premises to your argument
so you have the first premise
which is the conditional which is if the
generational transmission of Torah is
robust then either the tower is made up
in such a way that is implausible the
terror is true
premise two is the generational
transmission of the Torah is robust
okay okay we heard shamati tell me tell
me so how exactly it's just an argument
for well I'm just not convinced to be
the premise so I'd just like an argument
for premise one and premises tell me why
you're not so tell so as you know as you
know the whole the essence of the
argument is that a nation received this
Torah from another nation that Nation
receded for another nation that Nation
receded from another nation and so on
and so forth not from different nations
but from Nation from an entire
generational you consider each
generation so tell me tell me what the
entire nation decided to lie about the
exact same thing yeah so so I don't I
don't I'm not claiming again I'm not
then give me give me a circumstance give
me a circumstance then where they did
not all lie about the exact same thing
like give me a circumstance that they
could all be true it's not again like if
you look at the argument I'm looking I'm
not sure that it's actually not the case
that I need to hold that degeneration so
why don't you need why don't you need to
hold that question because I can reject
I can reject premise two why
how you demonstrate or I can or I can at
least not be convinced of it
generation I need evidence all right
Jackson's viewers are coming
okay Jackson's viewers are coming and
I'm I'm gonna charge them each five
dollars to be here watch five dollar
admission to watch My Stream I hope I'll
be rich I'll be fouled by a yacht with
that watch you have a nation not just
not just saying that you know our answer
I'll be your Mike cycling by the way you
have a nation that's not just saying
that our ancestors stood there
3334 years ago right and received a tour
I witnessed these things and so on and
so forth but you have that claim being
nationally transmitted but you also have
the claim that the nation had always
passed that down to the fullness or a
fullness of a group of people who
composed a nation until representing the
generation until every generation until
time so there's two things which are
nationally attested to both the current
by the current Nation yes okay if the
current Nation attests to it if the
current Nation attests to it then every
generation of the nation attest to it
and the reason we see how that follows
the reason I'll tell you why the reason
why is because of the fact that they're
attesting to two things both that they
heard from every previous generation
that the whole nation stood at Sinai but
also right that every generation passed
it down those are two different claims
being transmitted meaning we heard from
the previous generation meaning this
nation heard from the previous
generation which composed a nation right
that that they received from the
previous generation
the argument many times listen then you
need to give me a circumstance of how a
nation could all be mistaken about this
exact same thing if you'll just let me
listen to the process please please as a
point of process like you don't have to
like maybe if you're I don't know if
you're doing it for the room but like
I've I've heard this argument from Kira
rabbi's money money sure sure give us
but give us a circumstance so I don't
the reason I don't need to give you a
circumstance
again
all that I know I know that there is a
group of people that claim that as their
their nation that they have thank you
Savor this uh claim from Nation to
nation and that it and that's such a
transmission of the sorrow is robust
what I don't know I mean
yeah what I don't again but but that
doesn't doesn't follow from that that
there was a uh transmission from Nation
to nation that was yes it does okay well
you've delivered an argument explain now
explain how okay I I don't I just don't
see how it follows so so like what
happens generate an argument for premise
two right tell me how to use the
generational transmission of towards
robust okay I'm not convinced of that
what I would like you to do is generate
an argument for premise two then if I
said that two plus two equals five and
you said I'm not convinced of that you
could explain how why and how you're not
convinced of that if you're not
convinced of that second point that the
generational transmission of the Torah
is sufficient and that it's been passed
down the fullness of the generation back
through every single fullness of the
generation right you'd have to give me a
circumstance wait a second wait a second
wait a second you'd have to give me a
circumstance where an entire nation of
people at one point could be mistaken
about a tradition that they received
from their predecessors at the national
level both feet
mostly claim of the tradition itself and
also the claim of The Unbroken
transmission the tradition not back to a
few people but through but the
transmission the tradition from from
Nations and nations of people going all
the way back to the original Source tell
me how to understand what the climates
you've repeated the claim okay so now
give me a circumstance in which the
claim doesn't work I don't I don't need
to again like yes you do you've
repeatedly right now
premise too
so if we can get an argument why isn't
it we can just get an argument
I've given you an argument multiple
times yes okay explain to me yes the
conclusion of the conclusion of your
argument is premise too what's it what's
the first premise of your supporting
argument for premise too
that's not that's not the first the the
first claim is not that the generational
transitional tour is sufficient because
it's sufficient that's not the claim
that's not what I that's not excuse me
did I ever write that I never wrote that
sorry I just think you wrote the
conclusion you wrote the conclusion when
you give a supporting argument for the
premise the the conclusion is that
premise okay the conclusion argument for
the premise the conclusion is that
premise what does that mean wait a
second what does that mean I've been
pretty respectful here when I I um
go ahead what I'm trying what I'm trying
to show you is that what I'm asking
what's in contention here one of at
least one of the things premises and
contention is premise two and so I'm
asking you for a supporting argument of
the premise too
and okay when you give a supporting
argument of a premise
the conclusion of that supporting
argument is that premise so you'll have
one or more premises
you'll have a series of premises
like such as p1p2 and then to the
conclusion would be
P2 with an original argument which is
the generational transmission of the
tower is robust this is gibberish my
friend can you tell me so what so you
know the essence okay let's just get to
the point you know the essence of the
argument of National Transmission that
two things are transmitted just asking
you for the art yeah I'm just asking I'm
telling you the arguments here's what
you're doing Abby here's what you're
doing you're saying to me right oh give
me your argument I give you my arguments
and then you say that's not an argument
give me your arguments instead of
investing what I'm saying
yes you did you said I need supporting
evidence for premise too that's what
you're doing you're saying I need
supporting evidence for the second point
I'm giving you the evidence and you're
saying that's not evidence give me
evidence that's not the same thing as me
excuse me I did not say that you haven't
I don't I don't understand your argument
Enoch what are you saying refuted
the premise I'm not convinced of which
is premise too if you know what I'd like
so what I'd like you to do is to
generate an argument with the conclusion
that's premise too so I just did I just
did okay so promise one is what
premise okay first point okay the night
the two things among the Jewish people
are transmitted okay nationally the
Torah and the claim of National
Transmission all the way until Mount
Sinai okay things among
can I just like send you like like two
very short papers that you can just read
over or something and it's like there's
six pages literally both of them are two
pages long you you you can but in the
meantime I'd like to just I'd like to
just like that because I I think I
repeated myself enough I think the
people if they're honest so you don't
the people wait hold on
looking idioms the people in the chat
Bob the live streaming on the Discord if
they're honest we'll understand what I'm
saying and if they have a critique of my
argument they can they can give it they
won't just as a neutral as a neutral uh
judge I have to say Avi you really
you're really dropping the ball here
that's all I have to say yeah I'm just
I'm just I'm just asking for the form
for the the argument that supports
premise too so by saying the two things
among them and I'm and I lost you when
you were uh repeating the first premise
okay I I sent you two papers okay
they're both two pages long the first
premise is that there are two things
which are transmitted among the Jewish
people that is both in globally meaning
universally and so on and so forth that
is both the claim that uh that all of
our ancestors Jackson with the Redskins
334 years ago
and agree that the Torah is true the
second the second point right is that or
the second thing
so the two let me just make sure we
agree so the two things excuse me two
things which are transmitted among the
Jewish people
is that is both it is both the claim
both the claim of the Torah the Torah
being you know happening right the
events were happening and the and the
claim that our ancestors witnessed these
events and also the claim of unbroken
National Transmission those are the two
arguments what happened and
the national
transmission so the two things that are
transmissible into Jewish people
all right I'm I'm we're gonna put that
argument on hold because we have a new
audience here and uh Jax is going to
call in
um so we're putting that argument in
particular on hold if you guys didn't
know uh Mar was debating some vegans uh
and he basically defeated them entirely
he pretty much completely destroyed them
but guys we got to talk about Maga
communism because Maga communism is the
next big thing watch this space Maga
communism so the Democrats have put out
their dark Brandon meme which is
basically American Nazism you know
terrorism that kind of thing and it's
Darkness
Maga communism is solar it's solar it's
like the power of the Sun
combined with the working class so we're
gonna we're fighting back against their
black magic their their dark brand and
disgusting nonsense and Jackson is going
to call in
good morning Revolution
yo
yo to the right good morning Revolution
Maga communism is a meme that cannot die
it's it's trending on Twitter it's
blowing up it's the most powerful meme
there is and it's not just a meme it's a
fact
okay so we're going to call Jackson
hello
yeah
uh let me put up your
Discord
hold on
hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on
all right we're gonna tap put this out
all right let me uh
this is just freaking unbelievable here
it is all right
here it is all right guys this is
Jackson so Jackson
you saw that I'm famous now didn't you
oh what's that
uh you were I was I was FaceTiming you
you saw it
oh yeah yeah
did you talk about that yeah yeah I did
yeah how's it got recognized
all right so
I'm gonna move this to the side a little
bit all right so Jackson
the Maga communism meme is trending it's
on the loose it's on the March
pretty incredible pretty incredible I
mean
you called it you said that it's a
successful you said it's gonna I mean we
we knew this because we so we've been
talking over the past few days as to how
viral it's already gone and we kept
sharing stuff when it was going viral
either actually it's gone positively
viral a few times more than I expected
uh but it's also gone negatively viral
which is great as well because it's only
liberals and deep State protectors it's
like literally people who worship the
ground that like Victoria Newland walks
on they're like yes my feminist Queen uh
they they so they've been freaking out
about it and um it started to get more
traction you know Margaret Kimberly uh
liberal Margaret Kimberly she called me
Mussolini adjacent because I was touting
the Maga communism tag and saying that
Maga and Communists should work together
and then she and then Daniel Burke said
why are you calling him Mussolini and
she said well you know Mussolini started
as a journalist and Jackson is a
journalist that's the first time
anyone's ever called me a journalist I
said well I was I always thought I would
be the more Mussolini type if they were
going to call anyone that because I am
going bald I might I will be bald one
day and I am Mediterranean okay so if
anyone's gonna look more like I mean I
don't see Mussolini when I look at you I
just don't and I don't see it but here's
the thing right
one of the most common things they've
been saying is that they're saying some
shit like oh why don't you go talk to
Maga people and they're gonna beat you
up if you call yourself a communist so
Jackson you've talked to Maga people in
real life I'm from Michigan I've talked
to Maga people uh what is your
experience talking to Maga people as a
communist do they beat you up if you if
you share your views with them or
whatever my whole friend group is Maga
like everyone I associate with and
they're like all my closest friends are
Baga like this is just a reality for me
it's not like a matter of fact
yeah yeah people people don't realize
Mago people are not like leftists they
don't beat you up because you have
opposing views that you know if you
those defend themselves they're not
gonna get be violent
you know if you're going after their
kids or you're doing something
aggressive toward them yeah they'll
defend themselves but just just because
you have a different opinion than them
they're not gonna beat you up over that
but you know Jackson they were saying oh
I want to see what these guys I want to
see what happens if they go to a Maga
rally and say hi I'm a communist and I
want to see how that goes so Jackson
what do we have to say about that
uh I yeah we're gonna be going to
several Maga rallies and we're gonna be
talking to Maga voters and
um I think that we are going to do what
marxists do best and highlight the
contradiction between the oligarchical
elite deep State the globalists and the
working people of this country
yeah we're gonna set the record straight
we're gonna go down to these Maga
rallies and we are going to talk to Maga
people about communism I'm going to be
straight up with them I'm going to talk
to them directly about communism I'm
going to wear it all on my sleeve
and we're gonna we're gonna make the
case and we're gonna record it so if the
people on Twitter are correct then we're
gonna get punched in the face but if
they're wrong they're gonna look really
stupid aren't they
you know I went to the anti-mandate
rally in Los Angeles and I was talking
to a lot of
um Maga supporters and even Maga people
were like running for office uh at this
rally and I told people I was a
communist and like obviously that Sparks
debates and discussion but a they didn't
want to like hurt me or anything and B
they were genuinely interested at how I
arrived at the same exact conclusions
that they did from a different world
view so it's it's it's not uh it's not
what leftists make it out to be
yeah another thing they're saying
speaking of the Mussolini thing going
back to that you know they've been
saying uh this is the new Nazism this is
the new fascism where we're we're
merging the the the fascism we want to
Red Brown Alliance so first of all I
don't know if these people realize this
but there's two factions in America
right now there's people who are
Dangerously
fanatical about supporting the status
quo and then there's people skeptical of
the status quo and all those people are
under the umbrella of Maga Libertarians
whatever they're all Maga all the people
who are outside the establishment are
associated with the Maga movement all of
them
even people who aren't necessarily 100
on board with Trump it's the Maga
movement
so yeah I'm curious where where does
this where does the Nazi thing come from
they're saying oh it's the you're a
national socialist
I mean is Maga really nationalist is it
really or is it more just
trying to return to the real American
world the American country you know at
the expense of the fake one created by
the mainstream media like like how why
why is it specifically Nationals do Mago
people want to invade other countries do
they want to you know conquer other
territories do they want to invade
Poland or whatever the fuck I mean I
don't see it I think Maga people
actually just want to
you know they just want to give voice to
an a forgotten part of America right I
mean isn't aren't the Roosevelt people
part of America aren't the farmers part
of America aren't aren't all these rural
Americans also part of America why do
why why are we supposed to be
nationalistic for the urban
you know trendy America and we're
supposed to support Raytheon and Biden
and all that shit but if you're if
you're Maga that means you're a
nationalist so it's interesting right so
vosh and then they're not nationalists
right because they support Biden and his
warmongery but when we are supporting
Maga that means we're the nationalists
so what is what is that coming from
fascists fascism in the eyes of the
liberal left in America people like Ben
Norton Danny iPhone Margaret Kimberly uh
these sorts of people DSA uh you know
all these figures is anyone who Rejects
uh the the notion that as an American
all you can do to be you know all that
you must do is reject all the good and
only identify the bad of our country you
know and there's a lot of Truth to that
because
the people that I met that recognize the
Deep labor struggles of our country's
people and the historic Winds of our the
American people are like
coal miners in Appalachia for example
like those are people that I've directly
heard from things that I've never heard
from any self-proclaimed socialist or
leftists that supports AOC or the squad
or anything like that you know it's
people that have the Deep rooted history
of what it means to be an American and
stand up for the innate values of our
country and the ideas that our country's
grounded upon so the left says that
anyone who supports the good things of
her country
is a fascist and that's just how they
operate it's like it's they they fell
for the Soros lie that anything that's
good in this country is fundamentally
anti-human now the ideology that they're
pushing is anti-human yeah I mean
they're saying this is this you know
they're they're starting to identify us
I mean they think we're literally Hitler
right now you have to realize that they
actually think we are the seeds of the
future Nazi movement in America
and it's funny because if you look at
the people actually supporting war and
supporting increased authoritarianism
and supporting you know these extremely
aggressive demonization of half of the
country
people who are
actually like laying the foundations for
an American autism it's it's such
projection isn't it
yeah it's them
um it's them and I'm not saying it's
like all the people I just listened uh
but the fact that the the mantle that
they've now taken up is proof that they
are they are moving into this uh I think
that initially it was
it was those deep State protectorates
like people like the squad and stuff who
are openly cheerleading for 12 increases
in the state department budget at a time
when you know we have no
industrialization in this country it's a
hyper financialized country we we have
like
the bread and butter of America now is
like
the service industry and entertainment
industry that's nothing to be proud of
no yeah well excuse me
why do you hate Barista so much all
right Baristas that Baristas are the
foundation of the world okay and I'm not
saying this country because that's
nationalism but if it wasn't for
Baristas and Starbucks the world would
stop turning right and you know Barista
I mean look the Starbucks labor struggle
I mean come on you're gonna write that
off that's the most important thing
right now
but look at the end of the day the
reason why Maga communism is trending
right now on Twitter is because and and
you guys need to keep plugging that like
if you've made one tweet cool but make
like five more if you're if your
ex-girlfriend hasn't made a tweet yet if
your grandma hasn't made a tweet yet you
need to make sure yeah wake them all
even if they're sleeping even in the
internet coma if your grandma's in a
coma at the hospital drive to the
hospital and start shaking her bed and
tell her to start tweeting because we
need everyone we can get all hands on
deck
uh it's the truth I mean the reason why
this is so it's trending right now is be
and we said it the other day right we
said this is trending or sorry we said
this is this is going at the time just
like viral and stuff it was blowing up
and there was a lot of debate around
this because it scares the shit out of
liberals it scares the shit what what do
they have left it's it Rachel Maddow has
left MSNBC she's only there one night a
week you know it's Maga and Marxist
uniting
and with that worldview colliding I
don't see any opportunities for else I
just don't see it
yeah I mean
well they're bitching about it a lot on
their Echo chamber I've seen that even
though I'm banned on Twitter I can still
read stuff and yeah I'm just saying oh
my God all this shit oh it's it's going
to be such a disaster uh they're gonna
turn on you I mean like who's you I mean
we're not lefties we're not let we're
not part of the American quote unquote
left all these you know blue-haired
college whatever you know AOC supporters
we have nothing to do with those people
right
and uh you know I don't want to be the
one to have to say it but when people
like me and Jackson speak
there's a very clear difference from
what a leftist speaks right an America a
typical American leftist is speaking a
typical American left is going to sound
more like this
um so basically what I think we need to
do right now is
um we basically need to and they have
that voice they all have this ex you
know whatever it is it's a much more
effeminate sounding voice they're
they're just different from us we're not
built the same what do you think
listen in the words of Russell Texas
Bentley we got Lenin and we got God on
our side
um I think that uh
I think that
um
I lost my train of thought I don't know
this shit's just crazy I can't believe
it's trending on Twitter right now
yeah and it's it's a pop you know you
know what's powerful about it is that oh
wait I remember what I was gonna say
yeah yeah go ahead
um
so I've heard I I so people are debating
this I went on revolutionary black out
Network today and discuss this and
um
I I so I've heard a lot of uh
like common tropes about this people say
things and you know we discussed this
and I think maybe we smoothed over any
uh bumps in the road so to speak but I
hear people say well Maga is not acting
to be uniting with Marxist it's only
Marxist uniting to Marx is asking and
trying to unite with Maga well Maga is
like the you know majority or close to
majority of the voting population in
this country marxists do not
represent anything close to that first
of all second of all uh
on the flip side of that argument
Maga voters who in my community
represent at least 28 of my audience and
another 19 are represented by
Libertarians another 35 percent or so
are represented by uh other political
factions or apolitical people and the
rest are Marxist which is about 22
percent I think if my math was right so
I have a very politically diverse group
but what I'm getting at here is Maga are
not saying no to marxists the only
people who are saying no to Maga are
leftists leftists are the ones who have
problems with uniting with people of all
political uh you know
the backgrounds
on the issues that matter most combating
the globalists combating this this great
reset agenda liberal leftists are the
ones who have the problem marxists do
not have the problem and Maga don't have
the problem Libertarians don't have the
problem left to set the problem
yeah you know look it's so stupid
because they're like oh well Mago people
aren't uniting with us marxists yeah
because marxists tend to be people who
are more privileged and I hate using
that word but yeah they tend to be more
privileged they're more they're more of
a minority in in general and they're
just they're just intellectuals Marxism
is just a theory oh my God Emilio thank
you so much man appreciate you but
leftists are just you know leftists are
just intellectuals or sorry Marxist
we're the theorists we're the
intellectuals that's like saying you
know any revolutionary in history oh it
wasn't the workers that went to Lenin
Lenin had to go to the workers well yeah
because we're the ones who have
something to prove we're the ones who
have to prove that we're correct about
our view of the world to the working
class that's on us that's not on them to
that's stupid right
and Mark there's no work marxists are
not the working class the working class
is Maga it's either apolitical or it's
Maga as far as Democrats working class
Democrats I mean there's yeah you have
the the the some people in West Virginia
you've got some unionized people that
are Democrats because of their Union
but by and large it's Maga people
who are the working class
it's the brain dead liberal worldview
that like people such as fosh
um you know propagate to an increasingly
small audience uh that
the revolution will come from this
supposed group of intellectuals and the
masses will then follow them that's not
how that's not how it's ever worked
these sorts of things rise out of the
material reality of a given country and
its people and in many cases the you
know the pains and the ills that they're
suffering in in their daily lives and
that's what we're seeing in the United
States right now so so Jackson oh sorry
go ahead
hey go on so I gotta I got a super chat
with a great idea okay he said Danny
haifong and Ben norn are great don't
hate them debate them
how would you feel me and you versus
Danny haifong and Ben Oren 2v2 debate
we would agree to that we would do that
right now we wouldn't even prepare for
it we would debate them right now but
we'll do it right now yeah something
tells me that you know
the unwillingness to debate isn't coming
from us it's coming from look guys you
have to understand this
people like me and Jackson
we're not we're not running from any
debates it's these people who run from
debates they don't want to discuss any
of this because if they give us the
platform to discuss any of this we will
expose them in front of all their
leftist fans that they're bankrupt they
have no arguments they have nothing to
stand on we will we will take up that
challenge any day any time of the week
right
it won't happen in all likelihood
because
they'll either end up having to agree
with us or they're going to like rage
quit and you know
shout and insult us but I mean that
would be beautiful we I I try to debate
leftists all the time or I used to at
least they don't want to do it
you have to understand these are not
rational people right they're not like
motivated by anything rational they can
they can communicate it's all it's like
they have a mental illness
I'll even go so far as to say I will tie
one hand behind my back and I will make
a promise to Ben beforehand that I will
not bring up any of his criminal
activity uh insofar as you know his
fucking over of his uh former colleagues
at the gray Zone and stealing patreon
money from them to this day I'll tie
that hand behind my back you know I
think that's very uncomradly of him but
I'll tie that and behind my back and
I'll make this debate strictly about the
issue at hand
yeah I mean look I even I'll even tie
another handwriting like I'll take a vow
I will not prepare anything for this
debate I won't prepare I won't prepare
any quotes it'll all be on the top of my
head look this is guys all the all
leftists can do that's why you should
ignore leftists honestly just ignore
them because all they can ever do is lie
that's the one power leftists have they
can lie they can make things up about us
and there's a bunch of dumb people who
are willing to believe that but in an
open debate where we have the right to
defend our views
and it's in front of everyone in front
of the world they don't stand a chance
that's why they don't debate us yeah
they can go on Twitter and tweet
bullshit about us and No One's Gonna
know the truth until they investigate it
for themselves that's that's the only
reason they're still left this if
leftists actually defended their views
directly they wouldn't exist anymore
because they would get fucking destroyed
the only thing they have is lies that's
all they have
I think it'd be a great uh I think it'd
be a great debate I think it'd be very
interesting
um I think we should do this I think we
should do this let's let's put out a
formal uh a formal listen they they
debate us on Twitter all the time
through these veiled you know critiques
and uh allegations of fascism on our end
so and let's make it easy let's let's
say let's debate Maga communism what do
you think
yeah yeah let's do it Maga communism
we're going to debate them on Maga
communism
anytime Ben norn and Danny haifong
or whoever they they can know they can
tag in anyone they want they can say
okay I am too scared to debate I'll
bring this guy on anyone they want to
bring in me and Jackson versus them too
we will any day of the fucking week
right
Ben horn has a call-in show where anyone
can call him and debate him
now let's make this official yeah let's
make it a formal debate first of all and
second of all he blocked me on Twitter I
want to see Langley's best on my own
show debating me officially you know
professional debate we'll get someone to
moderate it it'll be good yeah I think
so
thank you
I mean because what what are the
arguments Ben is making against Maga
communism do you remember what argument
he made Ben you're uniting with fascists
oh my God
so thank you Jack so listen yeah yeah
what is a faster spend anymore
what what is it so okay so the 25 of the
country is now fascist because they
identify with Maga they're disaffected
Obama voters and they want a better
future and they believe in Donald Trump
to bring that and they they've
identified a new a new American reality
and they're fighting for economic
prosperity and that that makes them a
fucking fascist I'm looking I'm looking
for it and I can't where did the fascist
thing come from I don't where did people
get this idea that Trump and his
movement were fascist I'm curious where
did they get that idea they've certainly
thrown out the uh old argument of
Umberto Echoes 14 points because you you
disavowed that or it's clear that any
Joe Biden supporter would be labeled a
fascist by by proxy if they still
support Joe Biden I I actually think so
honestly the most fanatical supporters
of Joe Biden under my definition which I
can defend are fascists if you think
about it all these like nafo people all
these dark Brandon enthusiasts I mean
yeah they're fascists I think so I think
it has all the Hallmarks of fascism War
mongering Ultra authoritarianism you
know the destruction of democracy in
favor of this Brute Force silencing of
all political dissent you know narrowing
on the genocidal front when it comes to
their views on Russians they're
extremely racist and vitriolic and
indefensible views on Russians and then
the racism is also starting to peer out
when they're confirm being confronted
with minorities who don't want to vote
for the Democrats anymore you get black
people who are saying oh I don't want to
vote for Democrats anymore and look at
you'll see the clan the KKK Democrats
come out of the woodwork and reveal
their true colors I see it all the time
so you know if you want to know who the
real fascists are it's always been them
I don't see what what was especially
authoritarian about Trump even as a
president was he an authoritarian
president compared to Obama or compared
to Biden
well I think it's a matter and you were
so you're comparing Biden voters now to
Donald Trump himself which is different
uh
I think that if you're to look at Maga
voters I think they represent compared
to Biden voters I think Maga voters
represent
anti-fascism
that's what I think too I think Maga
voters don't just want to be left alone
I think they don't want all this
overreach being imposed on them I'm
struggling to see how that makes them
fascists look
I I don't think it does and I think you
know as vociferously as they're fighting
against uh the great reset agenda and
the globalists I think that makes them
actually the you know
greatest shining stars we have against
fascism based
wow thank you Nick appreciate you we've
got our fascist from the leftist and
Trotsky eye to analysis claiming fascism
Rises up on the backs of the middle
class oh that's what it is so so this
guy's saying that apparently the reason
they're fascist is because they're from
the quote-unquote middle class which
means it's they're not poor enough
basically if they were more poor like if
they were like um starving people or if
there was like a movement of homeless
people then
it they would not be fascist but because
Maga people you know have a truck or
maybe or maybe a you know
contingency like primarily
um
non-college educated white males was
like wasn't that too privileged sorry
listen I'm gonna have to explain to you
how this works so we marxists and we
left this we are the elites we're
college educated and yeah we wear
glasses and yeah we're super privileged
but we're like above Society all right
so we don't count so if there's any
movement
that's coming from below like among
those dirty peasants
it better be the people who are the most
vulnerable the most desperate and the
most easily manipulated so that we can
just shape and impose whatever agenda we
want on them see we're coming out of the
universities and unless we don't unless
we get hordes of just desperate
desperate people who have no way of
having any Independence we're going to
call it fascists because here's the
thing if we go to a bunch of homeless
people
our chances of dangling some like you
know dangling some food or shelter in
their face and say Hey you want this
food okay then as long as you get get on
board with the vax mandates I'll give
you food I'll give you shelter and we
can control them but Maga people because
they work for themselves and they have
some Independence in their life we can't
control them so they're fascist right
yes
so that's the theory
at the end of the day
um
liberals
like it's an extension of what we said
earlier liberals want bad things done
unto us uh Maga frankly I don't think
they really care they're just like yeah
more people want to work with us good
yeah I think yeah the main so Maga is
about resistance
and what is the other side about exactly
I think they're about you know full
steam ahead with the green fascist
agenda full steam ahead with more
lockdowns and more mandates and more you
know
more spending too right more more
going to Taiwan and go to Ukraine
bring us to the brink of War
I don't know it just seems like
I don't know what like so the mango
movement is fascist
I don't get it I still don't get it
right I've tried to understand it thank
you super are you in Jackson This
desperately for GOP money just become
Republican and leave someone give me
five dollars and they said are you in
Jackson is desperate for GOP money just
become Republican and have and leave the
left alone
so so here's the thing Jackson's
speaking of the devil I'm running for
congress as a republican woohoo
but here's the thing I mean
me and Jackson are Republicans in a way
right but we're just the kind of the
real kind we're actually Defenders of
the Republic
we're we're real Republicans right we're
the Lincoln
the Lincoln kind we're we're communist
Republicans
but as far as the Republican party is
concerned I mean look we'll take their
money right Jackson I'll take their
money yeah
it's such a retarded comment because
anyone who knows me knows that virtually
everything I've said over the past six
months has resulted in me being
permanently demonetized by YouTube
banned by venmo banned by PayPal had
thousands of dollars in merchandise
stolen from me uh so on and so forth you
know you list
any number of these social media
companies that's banned me and tried to
strip away my income anyone who makes
the argument that this is about money
and not ideology is completely
um backwards
I mean hey look but it it does throw
something out there which is you know we
we want to take Republican money right
from the Republican Party hey Republican
Party
uh you you heard the orders you got to
give both me and Jackson a lot of
exorbitant sums of money
I don't make the rules
I just tweeted out by the way the debate
offer beautiful and I'm banned on
Twitter for now
so I'm not going to be able to retweet
it or anything but guys go to Jackson's
twitter.com Jackson Hinkle go like it
and retweet it and boost the shit out of
it
so I'm just I'm still struggling to
understand like
we're pandering to Republicans even
though Maga is not the same thing as the
Republican Party do people know that
that the Republican Party actually
resents Maga at the top and they think
Maga is this dangerous force and that's
why you had things like the rhinos and
the Lincoln Republicans or sorry the
Lincoln project
Maga was into the Republican party that
was another argument I heard brought up
today that like Maga inherently supports
the duopoly that's not true at all the
Maga movement is probably the most
appropriately critical movement of the
Republican Party in the United States
today that that's just yeah yeah I mean
who's more likely to vote to or to want
to get on board with a third party
building a real independent third party
that's separate from the deep state is
it going to be the Maga people who
actually you know are independent
thinkers in our independent mind and
have an independent way of life or is it
going to be fucking Baristas that vote
Democrat who listen to whatever CNN
tells them and Canada they're being
closely aligned with the GOP leadership
today than magas yeah
precisely I mean all the AOC voters are
going to be the ones to create a third
party and challenge the duopoly give me
a fucking break if anything AOC in the
fucking progressives have strengthened
the duopoly more than anyone else right
now because they've actually managed to
trick huge segments of the youth to get
on board of this duopoly scam okay the
Maga people have a critical independence
from all that now you know what I'm
actually let's roll with this okay
what Independence do the fucking
progressives have from the Democratic
party what's their leverage where's
their independent power what makes them
actually have power and leverage over
the fucking Democrats nothing
so they are fundamentally tied to the
Democratic party in a way that the Maga
movement is not why because the Maga
movement has Leverage The Maga movement
is is an aggressively independent
movement that doesn't let itself get
slapped around or bossed around by these
chicken shit you know corrupt swamp
Republican politicians they have no
loyalty to those people the only reason
they're ever going to turn out and vote
for those people is if Trump tells them
to and that's it other than that
you know
go ahead I would say that even uh the
Maga movement in it of itself is
um
you know is a is a bigger threat to all
that swamp stuff than even Donald Trump
I mean
we saw the Maga movement uh in some of
its top like uh ideologues I guess you
could call it whatever uh figures speak
out quite harshly at Trump when he chose
not to Pardon Julian Assange and Edward
Snowden uh when you know the other
instances as well but
it's it's a beast of its own and it
cannot be fooled uh long term by anybody
I think is the unique thing about it uh
I don't think it's gonna be fooled by
Donald Trump if Donald Trump goes out
and starts
saying things about the jab that the
Maga movement doesn't want to yeah they
booed Trump before you know they're not
they're not the same as Trump now we the
guy's not saying he's saying Maga is
Zionist and capitalist who voted for a
billionaire globalist himself
so what do you think you think the Maga
movement is inherently pro-israel and
wants to give more of our money and tax
dollars to US do you think it's really
going to be hard to talk to Maga voters
and say hey why are we sending our
hard-earned tax dollars to Israel you
think that you think it's like going to
be so beyond
the threshold of possibility that the
magu movement consensus can change on
that or is is there some inherent reason
why Mago people think we need to send
our tax dollars to Israel what do you
think about that
well I'm gonna be honest
the biggest issue for me right now
in the world is the
uh Venture of globalists to try and
bring about the great reset Mass
starvation uh the complete demise of our
you know of of you know agricultural
lines and trade across the world our
energy markets that's the biggest threat
to me right now and globalism is a
subsect of capitalism globalists and
capitalists fight with one another I
mean we're seeing that in the EU right
now wait but the the donor is saying
that Trump is a globalist
and therefore mago's globalist
not a globalist that would be the
equivalent of saying that Trump is the
same as uh as Ursula vanderlein as well
there's photos of him with Epstein
Jackson there's photos he's a globalist
there's there's actual pictures he's
standing next to him you know the
interesting part about that story that
no one really knows I read the author of
uh I I read the I read a book by the
attorney of Virginia goufray who's one
of Epstein's most you know outspoken and
um famous uh victims and the author
who's her attorney said in the book he
wrote extensively about how Donald Trump
um when he found out about Jeffrey
Epstein and what Jeffrey Epstein was
doing at Mar-A-Lago he gave a permanent
lifetime ban to uh Galene Maxwell and
Jeffrey Epstein at all his properties uh
so they were no friends unlike Bill
Clinton who was inviting Jeffrey or
sorry Elaine Maxwell to private parties
dinner parties in West Hollywood uh far
after the 2008 plea deal that Jeffrey
Epstein struck with uh with the help no
I mean Jackson all these voters 80
million of them you know 79 million
whatever it is who voted for Trump we
just gotta wag our fingers and you voted
for a globalist and a billionaire just
keep wagging our fingers at them and you
know they'll uh they'll see the light
what do you think
that will be the argument
I mean I think we should just like um
you know what I think Jackson I think
all of us socialists wear glasses right
you should all get in a circle together
all 15 of us right
and let's all hold hands and just smile
and just kind of just like
stare at each other and just
that's just like um
feel good about ourselves what do you
think I forgot to add in the Tweet so I
said Haas of the infrared show just
proposed the idea of a joint debate with
me and him versus Danny iPhone and
Benjamin Norton on Maga communism I'm in
I'm adding a sub tweet Ben
I will tie one hand behind my back
and promise
not to bring up your criminal
Behavior
with your former
Gray Zone colleagues well here's the
thing right Ben Norton he's part of the
Progressive Movement and the Progressive
Movement is against imperialism and it's
against War I mean just look at Joffrey
young the face of the Democratic Party
ah you didn't think about that Joff
Young
that guy is the face of the democratic
party so Ben Norton's Vindicated totally
right
what the fuck is good with that guy he
keeps like tweeting at me and I see it
randomly I'll be like I'll be get like a
notifications guy retweet who the fuck
is this guy well he's you know he said
he said he's against war and against
imperialism
there were some people in your community
who when he started his little Twitter
account I was like Jackson interview him
interview him why would I ever interview
a Democrat I knew that guy was gonna be
a phony from day one they had completely
completely insane for anyone to believe
in that guy absolute hack and no one
should trust him
well here's in his own words
the the ten percent that makes the
Democrats better than the Republicans is
abortion and the environment so he when
he if he ever gets elected into Congress
you know look we can put the
Anti-Imperialist thing on the back
burner we gotta vote with the Democrats
and we got to vote as Pelosi tells him
to because he cares about abortion in
the environment and once we can secure
abortion in the environment then you
know maybe in like
250 years we can talk about something
else
isn't it so incredible how these liberal
leftists they just focus on the most
like mundane issue or the most like
insignificant issues on the planet it's
like I'm having a conversation about uh
globalism imperialism the state of the
multi-polar world and then they bring up
something like legalizing weed it's like
what well look it's priorities it's all
about priorities how's this at all
comparable
are you there
my alone did he even tell me that he
left
what hear me yeah okay
what were you saying
I don't know
I just uh
yeah these people are a joke
someone knocked on your door
all right
yeah look the whole the whole uh
the whole uh the whole the whole
controversy boils down to this
leftists will make this go viral and
then once they do we just have to
continue doing what we're doing just
ignore them right unless they're gonna
debate us we should just ignore this
shit out of anything they say
yeah because that really would be pussy
Behavior they yeah they toggle this game
on Twitter Non-Stop and then they won't
debate us whatever something tells me
that's what they're gonna do thank you
Morlock appreciate you man something
tells me that's their plan dimitrioff
was right liberalism is fashion I don't
know I promise not to bring up his
criminal Behavior so I feel like that's
enough to come on the Stream
but uh we'll see we'll see Chris Morlock
gives us some good advice he says don't
underestimate leftist's ability to be
vindictive very true
listen and I like your idea they can tap
in anybody they could they could tap in
jabby Martin they could tap in
ranyakalik they could tap in uh Brian
Becker any of them yeah what about that
Ben Burgess guy the the fat guy right
that guy sucks so much
but he he um so he someone told him to
debate me and he said oh Haz is just
gonna yell at me so I'm not gonna do it
oh he knows who you are apparent
apparently yeah but I think um I mean
like that's I I think he's afraid that
you know my my yelling is not
it's not gonna you know
you don't yell at everyone I think he
thinks my voice is going to be so loud
that his the donut the 12 pack of donuts
in the back of his room is gonna
dissolve
like Thanos snaps his finger and is all
the donuts in the back of his room Are
Gonna dissolve and the Mountain Dew is
just gonna spill all over don't worry
dude it's all safe all right I'm not
coming for your
I'm not coming for your pastries I'm not
coming for your soda not coming for your
pizza
you know I'm looking I don't even know
what this is it's it's some sort of a
bro we should do this is he doing like a
podcast a live podcast we could do this
right now he's going
he's going to the teragram ballroom
which is a pretty small venue in Los
Angeles it's a cool venue but it's small
and I guess he's doing some sort of like
a live show yeah I the only reason why I
bring that up is because he made himself
look really skinny in the in the poster
October 23rd ah I'm not going to be in
LA it's called give them a revolution uh
no I'm not saying we could go to it I'm
saying like we could do shit like this
like we could have our own live shows I
I'm that's what I've been saying let's
have a live show
yeah let's have a live show when I go to
L.A
how how much is it to rent out a venue
does anyone know
200
can't be that much it's got to be a
thousand Max right
no I I don't know like I know some
places it's not really about
um they don't I I think some places
don't charge you they just like take
money from tickets and they make money
off selling drinks
yeah I mean I'm I'm down for that
we could do it on short notice too right
like let's just do it like in two weeks
the live show thank you Chris appreciate
it we'll talk about it talking about
this yeah it's the first thing on their
minds and they will unite to attack yeah
I don't know I'd be I'd be very
interested in that so Chris is saying
he's saying everyone in the synthetic
left is talking about this
it's the first thing on their minds and
they will unite to attack
you know it'll be you know it would be
good to do actually is we should do one
and I have a fucking idea I have an idea
I'm not gonna say it on stream I just
had a brilliant can I mute
yeah I'm gonna okay I'm leaving
we unmuted Let Me Wait I'm gonna take a
piss really quick can you occupy the
chat
yeah I'll take a piss really quick
yeah we just had the best idea ever this
is literally crazy you guys should have
heard it
it was muted right you didn't hear it it
was it was the most insane thing I think
I've ever come up with but I think it's
gonna work
it's really crazy
you wouldn't even believe it
it was probably one of the most like
interesting
thought-provoking ideas that I've ever
had in my entire life
it was really really out of this world
actually
um
pause turned down the volume on my voice
good morning Revolution oh I just hurt
my knee
what do you guys think about that stuff
going on in Azerbaijan right now that's
crazy
Emilio thank you for the 50 gifted
I wish I could say that on my stream but
I'm permanently demonetized
they fucked me so hard with that
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um
I don't really know too much about the
Azerbaijan our media conflict I'm not
going to be talking about that
yes I'm now hosting the show Ron Paul
maoism
if you were to see a live show with uh
Haas and myself would you guys come to
one and who would you want us to have
there
because that's the beauty of live shows
right is you can bring anyone from like
a you know you do one in Austin you do
one and I'd love to do one in Tennessee
you do one in like New York La wherever
you can just bring people DC DC ones
would be fun you could get a bunch of
interesting people at like a DC one who
would you want to see Alex Jones oh
should we do an Alex Jones one in Austin
that'd be great like a live recording uh
I was gonna reach out I bet reach out to
his people since the last time
I thought we were talking about it but
that would be great I think
I'll just tell the fucking idea the idea
was initially I said we should do what
haas's uh coming out to LA I said we
should just do one short notice with
Jimmy in LA because I've done so many of
his live shows and I've done so many of
his obviously his live streams I said we
should just do one with Jimmy in LA but
I don't think we're gonna be able to do
it on that short notice
um but we could do we could do that we
could do like Jimmy in La we could do
Alex Jones in Austin Texas and we'll
just turn them into like
stream so we'll just cut them up and
turn them into streams and online
content
um
we could have um
I mean there's so much good stuff we
could do like that
DC what
the whole Maga communism thing I just
got word it's all done it's canceled
what do you mean uh Danny iPhone he made
a tweet and he said
uh he said the Soviet Union
uh was uh three um it was the first
country to have gay and trans rights
and uh they also legalized abortion and
um furthermore Cuba had gay rights so so
it's not it's not happening
did you know like um you know like the
first Soviet leaders were trans and they
were like all the the trans pride and
gay pride
okay in all seriousness literally those
two claims he made are both false he
said that yeah he said the Soviet Union
was the first country to recognize he
said it was the first country to
recognize gay and trans people as people
so first of all I'm not against gay
people I'm not against anyone but we
have to tell the truth from the
perspective of facts here's the facts
yeah here's the facts on that
so there was a bunch of tsarist era
legal codes that criminalized
homosexuality in the Soviet Union in the
um Soviet Union right which they
inherited so they flat out abolished all
the legal codes right and including
those legal codes was the
criminalization of homosexuality they
did not in the affirmative legalize
homosexuality it was just a byproduct of
the abandonment of the tsarist era legal
codes now the top
Alvin's guard you know Health whatever
guy in the Soviet Union forgot his name
but he is wow thank you so much Alan R
nice appreciate you so much man they are
alleged to have you know
um he's allegedly was pro-homosexuality
he wasn't he actually considered
homosexuality a disease and a mental
pathology that he thought needed to be
cured and he saw it as a remnant of like
Bourgeois decadence but he said the
Soviet Union should have a more
humanitarian approach to it and instead
of ostracizing these people into putting
them in jail we should work toward ways
of like curing them of their illness is
where he was coming from in no way was
he in the affirmative of saying yeah
this is like something we as a society
want to tolerate now that's that's more
conservative than me because I do want
to tolerate homosexuality I do think
they should be tolerated that's my view
but
I'm just saying he's lying about the
early Soviet Union then the whole thing
with the Trans people is there was an
experimental very Fringe clinic in
Germany right someone opened up I forgot
his name opened it up in Germany and
there was some extremely avant-garde
people in the Soviet Union again they
had a revolution all sorts of you know
new ideas were being
decentralized everywhere and there is
some
part of the Soviet forgot what its
Health Department or something that
collaborated with this German clinic in
Germany
and that clinic
did endorse transgenderism or it did
view transgenderism as like a legitimate
thing but the Soviets never first of all
the Soviet health and sexual departments
were I forgot the names of all these
things they never endorsed anything
trans they never did second of all none
of us had any reflective bearing on the
actual Soviet state which was far from
unified okay the Soviet state had all
sorts of different people and factions
running all sorts of different sectors
it's only under Stalin where you're
starting to see a more cohesive State
Soviet policy that's being implemented
across the board and as as you could see
that policy is profusely conservative
compared to both what what was going on
before with the avant-garde and in many
other ways compared to Western liberal
countries in many ways Stalin Soviet
Union was more conservative than America
and Britain and the rest
now they were more humanitarian and they
were more Humane but they were still
more conservative and they didn't have
like the Cosmopolitan culture of New
York and Berlin Weimar Berlin in London
they didn't have any of that shit they
didn't have Jazz you know uh you know
um speakeasies all that kind of fucking
they didn't have that culture at all
right so Danny High Fong is full of shit
then he mentioned Cuba which he's right
about Cuba does have some LGBT stuff
going on but that was important that was
almost entirely imported by an American
educated forgot her name is I think it
was one of someone in the Castro family
and that was her pet project
it's still while there's still immense
division within Cuban Society about it
there's a strong Catholic component of
Cuban society and the government in Cuba
tries to be above that dispute between
like the more liberalizing forces and
the conservative forces but recently it
seems like the Cuban government's taking
a more conservative turn because they
banned
the most recent Pride Parade I think the
one from last year so these are all
extremely misleading and outright like
factually wrong things that Danny Hyde
vong has said on Twitter the Communists
were pretty conservative
compared to the liberal Bourgeois West
now they were more Humane and they did
give more genuine rights to people like
women right more opportunities but they
still promoted and cultivated the
conservative human values of their
society family life and all that kind of
stuff so yeah
sorry for rambling uh yeah actually I
thought about it more I don't know if
Ben uh Norton is gonna debate either of
us I'm I don't have my coveted boosters
and I'm not you know I'm not fully
backed so I don't know if he'll what if
we wear a mask on stream
you want yeah maybe if we offered away
95s yeah
yes maybe that'll help the situation
we need a few more boosters though right
just a few more
just a few more and I'm gonna peace out
I'm gonna go and
I don't know what I'm gonna maybe go
work out or something all right Jackson
well I'll talk to you later all right
salute peace out
see you
all right
so I promised I'm going to talk a little
bit about Russia which I am
and I'm sure Jackson's been telling you
guys all about that right but I'm an old
man is going to give us two now I'm not
going to give you any factual
information he hasn't given you I'm just
going to give you my analysis of the
situation assuming you've got all the
facts right
so it's crazy that I got banned from
Twitter right when all this is happening
but yeah the pro Ukraine and NATO people
there's cheering and celebrating because
the Ukrainian Army has made significant
wins
in the kharkiv area and they've gotten
you know thousands of kilometers of
square miles of territory that they've
reclaimed back from Russia
and that means zelenski is going to be
in Moscow any time now well no it
doesn't
so a lot of people they wanted to weigh
in and see what my opinion on this whole
thing was and my opinion is that
I am still not 100 certain of the exact
goals of the Russian special military
operation
and I've I've given up trying to predict
what those goals were
but there's a few things you have to
keep in mind
first there's no formal declaration of
war on Russia's part
so anyone who thinks this speaks to the
weakness of the Russian army doesn't
realize that Russia hasn't even declared
war on Ukraine meaning they can't deploy
their actual conscripts
you know in their actual military proper
they're using volunteers and special
forces and that's it okay the second
thing is that
Ukraine through like threw everything at
them 20 000 people charged to take
harkith and as Jackson has pointed out
before that's just to convince an
increasingly impatient Western Europe
that they still have a chance at beating
the Russians
now if whether that's true or not you'll
see in the coming weeks or in the coming
months who knows
the other thing is that
this has gone on for a long time since
February 24th or whatever right
there's gonna be backs back and forth
it's not going to be all one-sided
there's going to be back and forth if it
was just going to be one-sided it would
have been over by now right
it's been going on for like like a
fucking you know
how many days 100 days more
there's gonna be back and forth okay
but this the stakes are this if Ukraine
does win it's over for the Russian
government
just based on the balance of Interest I
don't find it realistic
I think they would soon or at least
probably declare war or step up their
gain significantly step up their game
significantly then allow a loss I don't
see a loss on the horizon
but
I do think
that there is a division in in the
Russian society and there's a division
in the Russian government even
and it's between these more liberal kind
of pro-western oligarchs who want to
renormalize relations with the West as
fast as possible
that are holding Russia's hands back
their Russia's hands are being tied by
these oligarchs right whatever you want
to call them these Elite liberal
sections of Russian Society the
westernizers the Liberals right
they're holding Putin back they're
holding the Russian State back because
they want to return back to normal as
soon as possible why because there's an
internal social Revolution going on
within Russia
and what Putin needs to do he needs to
reign in on this ruling class with a
popular mandate which he already has he
needs to promote the Russian people from
the bottom up from the rural regions and
the remote regions and elsewhere at the
expense of the elitists
that are you know keeping his hands tied
and he needs to accept
okay as far as what he needs to do as
far as the operation is concerned I'm
not allowed to say on YouTube I'm
literally not allowed to say
but once he if he does those things then
you know as Dugan said he there's six
months six months
if Russia does not seriously increase
and up the ante as far as it's
um
as far as its efforts are concerned
because it is holding back that is a
fact
it's gonna spell disaster
so that is something going on internally
within Russia right now because again
this is just as much of an internal
Civil War within Russia as much as it is
a war with Ukraine and the West at large
thank you Ignacio so much what do you
think about layaway 86 and Serpent's
dispute on the CCP
although those are the sex bats that
went to China and
um
tried to be like sex tourists and then
once China like became more
prosperous they were no longer cared no
one no one saw them as celebrities
anymore and they started getting butt
hurt and they were like oh the CPC is
really dangerous
guys get this right make of this what
you will
so I saw a video of those guys where
they were like in Vietnam
and they were like oh we love Vietnam
Vietnam is a lot like China in the 90s
right now it's so welcoming to
foreigners because we're white guys here
everyone loves us and we're treated so
well because of our skin color here and
everyone like worships us here and it's
such a liberal open Society oh Vietnam
by the way that's where Luna oil lives
if you don't know
um so yeah make of that which you will
but China is not Vietnam I can tell you
that much China's not Vietnam okay
China's China China is having nothing
with these kind of losers so we have
losers in our society The Losers of our
society they go to these foreign
countries to feel like they're
celebrities oh yeah I'm an American I'm
a white guy no one gives a fuck all
right just like here
if you're a white American and you go to
Walmart
with all the other white Americans
you're not a fucking celebrity you're
just like anyone else you know get in
line okay that's what we believe here in
America but these people they go to
foreign countries to try and flex on
others feel Superior it's not the case
anymore at least not in China maybe in
Vietnam that's still what's going on
it's not happening in China
so yeah that that was really interesting
but yeah those guys are losers right
and they they couldn't even pretend that
the CPC is against the Chinese people
and vice versa so they started saying
shit like oh yeah the Chinese people are
so brainwashed that they're bad people
it's kind of like the racist shit that
they're saying about Russians because of
the Ukraine war they were they're saying
the same things about Chinese people now
right over a billion people right it's
incredible
it's just thank you so much Al
appreciate you man
appreciate it
it's incredible right it's baffling
absolutely
thank you do you look like your dad's
side of the family or your maternal
family also we have Arab Taco Bell it's
called Halal Guys but it's met
um I don't know if I want to answer that
question it's kind of a sus question
it's kind of a sus question I also say I
look more like my dad's easily
easily but according to Twitter
um
my name is Adam Tahir and my mother is
German
and my father is some random guy and
that's what Twitter said Twitter Twitter
said my name is Adam and I'm um
I'm not actually like
oh speak of the double I want to do a
23andMe test
but I don't want to give him my DNA
right so it's kind of a dilemma but
because I've heard like oh don't give me
your DNA but I've heard people
who are similar to me ethnically and
they've got they've done those 23 meets
us and they all get like 25 to 40
percent Iranian and West Asian
and I think I'm gonna have a high
percentage of that if I do it
but I want to do those 23andMe tests
if I find out
yeah I'm not going to say this but
I am curious but uh
yeah I am
apparently I'm like half German
so yeah that's that's a new fact that I
didn't know about it but it's Twitter
said it's true so it's true right
whatever Twitter says is correct yeah my
real name is Adam I'm Adam guys hi hi my
name's Adam I'm Adam to here
that's what Twitter said
and by the way Twitter said that because
uh Lefty pole guy
made a fake account called Airbnb host
because I was bitching about Airbnb and
they they were like oh his real name is
Adam to here and nobody nobody decided
oh it's like is this true no it doesn't
matter Twitter Twitter thinks my name is
Adam so it is my name is Adam
because I'm Adam
so yeah
what I look like an atom do I look like
an atom
do I look like a fucking atom to you
what a cope what a cope
but um
I don't look like Adam I look like the
fucking Viceroy of the safavid Empire
okay I don't fucking look like an atom I
look like the fucking Viceroy of the
fucking Ottoman Empire and I'm on a
fucking Wooden Boat sailing to the
Americas to find the fucking
Lost Ark of the fucking Covenant and
I've got a fucking scimitar
and I'm fighting Captain Jack Sparrow
and shit that's what I fucking look like
I don't look like a fucking atom
but I I am claiming Persian ethnicity I
am going to claim Persian ethnicity now
and listen I I'm gonna I'm gonna
guarantee you guys something okay
do I do I know
do I know
holy will my 23 and me is no I don't I
guarantee you I guarantee you if I take
a 23 and me it's gonna say 40 30 to 40
Persian I guarantee it to you it's gonna
say 30 to 40 Persian or West Asian and
I'm SIA from South Lebanon so that means
Persian okay and everyone I've ever
talked to said
that the Shia from South Lebanon were
Persians those were the Persians that
settled there because they were
persecuted for their beliefs so they
settled behind the mountains and that's
why they're there
so I'm either going to be like a hundred
percent Lebanese Phoenician or I'm gonna
be like 30 to 40 percent Persian and I'm
claiming the Persian ethnicity all right
I'm gonna say I'm half I'm a Arab I'm a
Arab Persian that's what I am all right
I'm claiming it
I'm claiming it
so yeah I don't
I don't know I feel like I should be
allowed to do that
also if there's any if I lived in
Lebanon I would be the I would be an
advocate of the Persian Empire I would
say yeah we need to bring that Persian
Empire back
so yeah
there I am anyway
why never submit your DNA
I don't know I'm not very Anonymous I'm
a very Anonymous person actually like
even the FBI would be like who the fuck
is this guy
even if the the FBI probably still
hasn't found me I'm gonna be honest
they're probably like they watch my
streams and they're like we still don't
know who the fuck this guy is
I guarantee you because there's so many
Arabs in Dearborn
like me and it's like
how do you find me they're still
probably looking
they're still probably looking
I'm a very yeah Anonymous guy
I'm like the Joker I don't have any
origin
genetic makeup isn't everything you're
right you're right you're right but
Lebanon is a CR like lebanon's cringe
all right like what is Lebanon it's a
fake French country right
my my ancestral heritage is not Lebanon
all right what the fuck is Lebanon right
so it's got to be something more than
that
guys I was thinking about a movie the
other day so my beard has grown so full
and I'm starting to look at myself and
I'm starting to think I look like the
Persian Viceroy Viceroy of the Persian
Empire that's what I want to start
calling myself because my beard right
and I was thinking about a movie I
should star in
this is just a narcissistic fantasy I
have so I want to tell you about the
movie I want to make
and this would be such a cool fucking
movie I want to tell you guys about it
can I do that
thank you Christmas I appreciate you so
much we know the truth that you are Han
schmittenberger broadcasting from Berlin
exactly
so guys I uh
I want to make a movie
that's a live action inspired by
Treasure Planet where it's like space
pirate ships
in space but like also in oceans like
there's giant ocean Scenic like imagine
an ocean
background with like fucking nebulas and
galaxies and shit like a Treasure Planet
space background
and the movie's about
a conspiracy against the space safavid
Empire
it's like mixing timelines marvelous new
movie titled Captain America New World
Order is going to introduce Captain
Israel I I I heard about that I'm gonna
comment on that because this is a Marvel
React channel too so guys
the movie is going to be
it's gonna be a it's gonna in I don't
know what the plot is going to be
exactly but it's going to involve
the space off of it Empire because I
feel like this I feel like I can imagine
a space Persian Empire for some reason
and it's gonna be a space off of an
Empire okay
and
that's okay I have that going for now
and then I also have an agent of the
space off of it Empires sailing the ship
and he runs a foul
with other factions and he's he's acting
on be and I just he's like fighting for
the Emperors it's gonna be so fucking
cool it'll be so cool
it'll be so cool and then um
that would be a very cool it's gonna
have like a mysticism in it it's gonna
have like esoteric shit it's gonna have
like fucking
crazy oh I could make that film I could
make that fucking film
that'd be such a cool film
if Iran wants to fund that film let me
you know
let's fund that film
let's let's make Iran great again
in pop fiction
yeah it'll be like a combination of Dune
with
Treasure Planet
and Pirates of the Caribbean like that
wouldn't would that would be such a cool
movie right that'd be so fucking cool
that'd be so fucking cool
that'd be so fucking cool right
no that wasn't Dune Dune is about
religion this is not going to be about
religion at all
this is going to be about
something else
now should I react to the cpusa video no
I shouldn't because it's 2 am
it's quite late
it's quite late
probably not a good idea
um
is there anything I'm missing like guys
I think we're kind of looking at the end
of the road
we're at the end of the road
nobody knows
end of the road
so you must know
It's the End of the Road
what the fuck
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the fuck is this
that's so interesting
that is so interesting
that is so interesting
based
hypothetically if you had a wife would
you be cool if she had a male of gin
that's a fucking doctor dude I wouldn't
give a fuck
the doctor not crazy
not crazy like that that's a that's
Medical
right
that's a fucking doctor
um guys I think we're at the end of the
road
I think we're at the end of the road
closing time
oh yeah the thing I want to say one more
thing about the Russia thing right
it's important not to treat this like a
sports game I know they need full people
oh my God Ukraine is winning they always
they've done that first they've done
that every step of the road and then
what happens Russia makes more wins and
advances and not a peep crickets we
don't hear anything right so don't
just you know don't treat this like it's
a fucking sports game because in this
operation a week is nothing right it's
just the truth
so will my my response to the nafo and
all the people cheering this oh we won
we won okay wait and see let's see wait
and see
right he didn't win until Russia's
government is overthrown because that's
the condition it's going to be for
Russia to give up
more info about the NYC activity go to
Twitter and search Daniel Burke and he's
got all the info on Twitter
thank you Vidal where can I find motor
info about the answer just go on Twitter
and you'll find Daniel Burke
and it'll be there
anyway guys
arms signing off