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to be alive

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a wrong prediction

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guys

we have a lot to talk about today

and it's pretty topical

that the stream title is about the c p s a thing that's going on and that's going to take up a bulk a huge bulk of the stream obviously

but we have so much more to talk about

when it comes to this infighting that i'm seeing within the community

o specifically on twitter so again i have to keep prefacing this and saying this shit

ever since i fuck and god banned from twitter

it's been a fucking

disaster

and it's not necessarily one person's fault it's not necessarily a group of people's fault

the problem is that

believe it or not

sixty percent of what i do isn't streaming sixty percent of what i do

is keep the community together

that's like sixty percent of it ok

and i used to be really annoyed about this burden because i thought why should i have to fucking do this why can't people just

not be

puzzle pieces if you catch my drift

but the truth is that if you're going to be managing a fucking community

that has any kind of political goals whatsoever

you're going to have to be dealing with this fucking internal politics shit

and i've come to accept that and recognize that but you know the problem is that i've been fucking banned from twitter

so i have no way of micromanaging anything or signaling things in the right way

it's a fucking disaster

it's a fucking disaster

so

we've got a lot to talk about by way of that

ok

and i don't know if i want to exactly start this stream off talking about that

or if i want to talk about something else first and kind of ease into it

but i might just do it right off the bat

but i don't want people to come later and be like ohll

what w what did you talk about the

see the problem right

any caase i haven't really been keeping up with a lot of news

but it's weird because it seems like the twitter deal with elon is actually going to come through

and if that deal comes through

i get my fucking twitter back

so that's a great thing isn't it

if that goes through

then i get my shit back i get my twitter back

so that's always great to hear

and that's always refreshing

but i still don't want to get my hopes up

ah but i'm pretty sure i get my shit back if that happens

are we going back to u c l

yeah i saw the international magazine thing

i don't know actually it is actually possible that i go to l a again soon

to go to u c l a and collabor with zirka

and that's kind of in the works that's not a guaranteed what we're we're talking about right now is

getting like a month long airbnb maybe

and splitting it

so we're seeing we're sorting out the details

it's not guarantee don't get your hopes up

but that is a strong possibility and the reason it's a strong possibility is that

this is not

permanent right i've been

fucking pretty much

hopping

places to stay

and i get it's disorienting for the community to see me in so many different places at once

rest assured there's going to be a more permanent set up that i'm going to have

pretty soon

can't promise you when but it's coming

and that's pretty much what i've been dealing with a lot of the time right

so ya

twitter is a fucking disaster

and not everyone is a master at knowing how to fucking

bring communities together and shit

so i don't blame you i don't blame you gorillas and you fucking infra cels and all you fucking

eeople for just

coming at each other

and having all this venom toward each other

very publicly at a time when we're being attacked

h and you'd you'd think that me being off twitter would ease in the attacks it's only gotten worse

and that's because of the vice news magazine

it's also because of we've been getting we've been hitting the rounds in terms of publicity

with the maga communism thing that's not going anywhere

and then also you know

other stuff as well i mean

the schiller instut conference that we just did i mean

were really making rounds and then the jose vega guy

heckle day o s

so now there's this huge specter of larouche and the laarrouche bugeyman that

everyone's fucking talking about

so this is just really a bad time

for

people in the community to try and

draw lines against the larouse people

and go after la rouche it's a dangerous thing to do

and the timing is fucking horrible first of all but second of all

understand that when people attack larouche they are attacking infared

and the reason

that there that that's the case

is because the left has already adopted the latest form of copium

which i'm actually going to address in a substack i'm actually going to write about this

according to which

um jackson hinkele and infrared

because c p i is now gone

and because it's impossible for people men young men in their twenties

to actually create a new movement

this is all just larouche all of this is just larouchi infrared it's just larouchi

it's all just larouche

that's the conclusion they've drawn that's the latest form of copium psychological copium

that they've adopted

in order to psychologically put their mind at ease as far as what the origins of this whole thing is so instead of actually having to deal with us

as this new and novel development

they're just going to pigeonhole us and say ok that's just la rouche

and there's like a unanimous consensus

a among the left

is far as that conclusion is concerned

and i think a lot of this has to do with a few factors a few people are to blame for this

so obviously the pat sock thems are a huge culprit when it comes to this accusation they kind of started it

and then the retard who picked up on it is fat deformed ugly fuck donald parkinson

of cosmonaut magazine

donald farkinson this ugly fat deformed fuck

is the originator and the progenitor of the fucking laroushmim

and the dots just connected themselves together

like spontaneously because donald parkerson came and he was like

oh my god we need to learn the lessons of larouse i think these guys are all laaruse

and then what do you know the paranoid mind sees that infrared is allied with the schiller institute

and we also have

adopted a lot of the

mems

and policy means like the world land bridge and all that kind of stuff

so like oh my god oly shit the the conspirator the connection is there

see i'm going to explain to you something about the most

it's a very telling sign of a primitive mind

when connections for them enough

r

what establishes the conspiracy

so the only thing to establish a conspiracy is just connections alone

it's kind of similar to when people point out that elan must picture with

gizline maxwell

and i can't speak to how much elon usk is involved with all that stuff i don't know

but that's not incriminating

okay yeah these people are rich fucking people and they're at a party together

it's not incriminating it's just like wain people shoted a photo of dugan

with david duke or whatever

but

it's also irrational

in our case especially because

where we stand with regard to the schiller institute

isn't a secret

when you're going on twitter and you're seeing infrared profile pictures

interact positively with the schiller institute and some of larouch's ideas

that doesn't need to be explained in terms of a conspiracy because where we stand in relation to them

is very clear

we are marxist leninist

who are allied with the schiller institute

we're allied with them we agree with them about a lot of things

we share similar enemies

and we're strategically allied so

i don't know why there has to be a conspiracy why does it have to be that we're controlled by them

and that they created us

just because we're connected to them

i mean yeah the connection is there

but why is a connection alone

enough evidence for a conspiracy

that's what i can't fucking wrap my mind around

why is just the fact that we don't make enemies of them

evidence for some kind of conspiracy that according to which they fucking created us

you see how the stupid primitive fuck in mind works

where yeah it's like a confirmation bias oh my god

there's a picture of hos with daniel burke

yeah because i'm allied with daniel burke

so it's either

i join in on the bkies thank you marching orders

there is a photo with dugin ands big naprzhinsky

that's too in itst italanta yeah exactly

exactly think so much marching orders

but when i can't fucking wrap my mind around

is

so you're either going to adopt the establishment's consensus about the rouche and the mainstream media's consensus about the rouge and the lefs consensus about the rouge

or you're going to be more friendly and open to la rouge

and that and which case you are larouche

well i have some news for you the communist party of china

is very much

interested in and larouchite ideas

the schillar institute

as many allies in the chinese government

among chinese scholarships

these ideas are very well discussed

and

respected and venerated

and the same is true for russia

h glazdia

sergei glaziev

spoke at the schillerans to conference

he is tied to the russian government

so all over the world people have a very open minded perspective toward the schiller institute

they haven't adopted this uniquely atlanticist kind of perspective according to which all the roush is a horrible bad cult

it's more like a

spirit of open dialogue and exchange of ideas

rather than just writing them off completely

because you don't agree with everything they have to say

and my basic question is

if the chinese and the russians

are receiving the schiller institute in this way

why should we

tour on the left

in contrast to them why should we like

why shouldn't we have the same approach and the same attitude i don't get it

if worres heer to cultivate a fucking broad

popular front and if we're here to be american communists or whatever the fuck you want to say

but why wouldn't we have the same attitude as our international allies

toward the schiller institute

i mean why not what what makes this different why because they don't agree with us about

fucking everything

right

and this actually speaks to probably the number one origin of bullshit conflicts

that happen in this community

and it's basically what do goed another person who controls infrared

will basically distinguish as a logo centric perspective

versus a perspective more oriented toward he would call probably like

primal chaos a chaotic perspective

so chaos all that means is that chaos is about

the principle of inclusivity

versus logoss principle of exclusion

and identity on the basis of difference

and distinction

the chaos oriented perspective

establishes an inclusive perspective according to which

just because something is not

actual

doesn't mean it's not

possible

just because you don't agree with something or you don't share the identity with something

doesn't mean it's not included within the whole

so from the chaotic perspective

difference differences discrete differences are part of a whole

so this is a very and i'm just kind of throwing this out there to

tell you why in china and in russia they don't have this fucking fanatical

attitude

like we have here in america and in western countries

because they have

societyes not grounded on the basis of the western logos its

rounded on the basis of some kind of

specific form of chaos some kind of

sociological principle

rather than a loco centric

principal

so in china for example

they don't raise every

distinction to the status of a primary contradiction

mo si tong established a distinction between primary and secondary contradictions

i'm in russia today

they have their own kind of perspective of the difference between

you know i

a point of

severe severe like

ah

enemy of the state enemy of the motherland enemy of the country versus

internal disagree factional disagreements

within the united russia party for example

and among the russian government

man you ord twenty dollars because i cannot stay for the ream but ye leftoids forgot the science part of the immortal science of marxism leninism and are too afraid to find allies with new persu i agree entirely thank you so much for it i appreciate it so much

so you have you're dealing with this issue where it's like

in from the more i guess eastern perspective

there's the principle of inclusivity that wins

they're not necessarily agreeing with everything the schiller instut has to say

but why not establish common dialogue on the basis of mutual respect

why do you have to have this genocidal exterminationist perspective

according to which if there's one tainted thing

that you disagree with people about that taints everything and that makes them worthy of complete annihilation

that is fucking psychotic

ok

so because you disagree with someone about something

everything they have to just completely write them off

walck everything they have to say

that is just not the that is not the spirit of marxism that's not the spirit of what marxism leninism is

that's the spirit of some kind of like

working

ultra sectarian

you know

fucking fanaticism

that has its origins in the fucking reformation

in western europe

that's not

that's not a marxist perspective

that is a fanatical perspective

im

which is complete which is

thoroughly anti marxist

but it's part of a pattern you see

and i find it insane how this is coming from the community

because if you watch our video what infrared is all about if you watch that fucking video

we talk about why is the western left sectarian

why does it have this sectarian attitude where it draws lines and it draws distinctions

on the basis of theories and ideologies

rather th on the basis of some kind of like

material distinction some kind of material reality

and we talk about that and we go over it in a pretty in depth way

and that's the founding of what that's our founding critique of the western left

so to see this behavior repeated in a in a new kind of way is just

i find it pretty disturbing

k you super jackson is going to the young republican club event with a bunch of republican ivy league p m c

low communist party

fo

again this is the western principle of

loco centric exclusion

at work

so the retard and he is a retard his name is super plateonau man

he is mentally retarded he's actually a fucking idiot

actually a stupid person

whose brain is deranged and i'm going to explain to you their psychological make up

according to them

if jackson goes to a young republican club this taints the purity

of the ideological line of communism it's a take

it's a stain

it must be raised to the status

of some kind of fucking primary contradiction because it's it seems to be contradictory to some pure ideological line that jackson never fucking endorsed in the first place you fuck and retard

and it's a stain in the purity of their focking position

so the idea

it's just like how manga communism is a stain

how can you be a maga communist

when they're anti communist a stain

how can you do this when trump said this about socialism a stain see this is how these fucking people think

they think like primitive mentally retarded fucking primitive

like they don't

think in a

adult rational way they have this

fucking anal fixation thank you i lo your speech shared with my sudanese friends they loved it

we are creating a big tent populace thank you so much alexander i appreciate you so much

and you know the psychological origins of this it's really some kind of freudyan anal fixation

that these people have going on

it's like every time you see these lepists talk

and try and like

try and expose the defile it it's all a sham

you can see you can tell there have their cheeks clenched you can tell they got their they got their cheeks clenched a it's like a stick up they're fucking ass or something

when they fuck and say this shit

can these people like cag like like think about tank when tank came out yount believe in the labor aristocracy i mean his cheeks were clenched when he screamed that

that's not a guy who's at ease that's not a guy who's relaxing his muscles

that's not a guy who's just sitting down talking like a normal fucking adult

these people they have their shit clenched

ok

that's the truth

it's it's pure psych i'm a psychologist officially ph d psychologist

it just makes sense doesn't it

so yeah that's where that's where it all comes from

ok it's like you need a fucking calm down

and

you're assuming way too many things ok

if jackson goes to the young republicans club

so what b thank you saudi ross they pres the sectarianism in the anglo left have any relation to malis slash s p dogmatism

yeah may wisdom

proper

the western malism at least is the ultimate form of this obviously

anyway he said a bunch of p m c so this is what he's doing because we have railed against the p m c

this is an impurity

in our in our own position supposedly

this is an inconsistency they've

they've wrought out

they haven't addressed the question

of whether

jackson is going to that club

to

bolster a pmc political position

he's just making some kind of assumption about the personal backgrounds of the attendees

of which i could probably say nothing i mean

to be honest they're probably not p m c they're probably like

rich or something

they're probably just like the they're probably actual capitalists or something right

but

it's besides the point like

ok so it's just like when people say oh hayes are you personally the industrial proletariat

so that's this this this fucking but let's call it

what hurt

sectarianism it's the buthurt western sectarianism

and it's a very very clear pathology

which i've been dealing with from the fucking beginning i just

it's just i've been gone kind of i've been irregularly streaming for like

a few weeks

and then i'm very disappointed to see the but hurt sectarianism re emerge

in the community

as if we didn't fucking spend over a year

doing struggle sessions against this shi

right

ok let's talk about the issue at hand

i want to talk about the actual issue i ha

botsom say

what a fucking it is

what a fucking dumss

right

now this is a smart this is this donation smart i want you guys to read this donation

so

and it's so much it's so interesting how i can insult a shit out of someone

and they're still going to give me another five dollars

but

this one's

instead of going to instead of going to a rich ivy league republican club

go to the bronx brooklyn queens with working class people

i mean do you think before you type

did you actually did that sound smart in your head when you typed that

because i want you to actually take account

of the implications of what you're saying

you're saying that jackson should go to some random location in the bronx

brooklyns or queens

and do what

and just shout things

what context is being established

for him to interact with working class people

in a politically significant way

is there an event going on that all the working class people are going to be at

is there like a working class gala going on

of some kind of political position like

what is stupid fucking thing to say

what dore you don't even want him to do that

you're just trying to make

this like

theoretical point

that oh my god

note the irony of him going to an a rich ivy league republican club

you don't actually want m to go to the fucking bronx and just

what randomly haronged people on the fucking street

about his fuck and ideological views

you just want to make the point that there's a huge a seeming contrast

or contradiction

by the way there is no contradiction

you're just fucking stupid

i'm sorry dude you should feel like a fucking idiot you should feel

like a stupid fucking person

like did you think when you typed that that's my question i don't think you did i don't think you thought about anything

when he typed that

it's like when people are like

yeah it's like people like oh you want communism go move to fucking cuba

nno move

no move to some communist country

they don't actually want you to do that they're just trying to make a point

so yeah but i want to actually talk about the topic

of contention

you know

what actually talk about something serious noy used to it not only he took an nll in the chat

the yankees just lost two

smily face

thank you suez i appreciate you so much

thank

um so yeah that's just the stupid thing to say

but im

ok so

let's actually talk about the actual point of contention that i've been noticing

game

and

this isn't this is gone beyond the community and apparently this is caused a quite a rauccus

and it's very inconvenient by the way

because there's a fucking anti larouche witch hunt that's going on

specifically that's

because of us

the rousse people are not being attacked

just because of what they do

they're being attacked because

this is becoming so prominent infrared is becoming very prominent

in terms of its influence and in terms of its reach

ok because of the maga communism thing

specifically

that's making a really big dent and it's making waves

and larouche is being blamed for it

so when you join on the fucking anti laue dog piling

you have to understand what you're fucking doing

like the way they're coping about this new phenomenon

is saying it's a la rouche conspiracy

so this is not really the time

to be jumping on the fucking anti larouche bandwagon

because it's like a direct attack on us

if you didn't fuc if you couldn't tell

and by the way

you should never join in any dog piles with the left

how really unprinciple do you have to fucking be

to join the left on anything

to join them on any dog pile like that's just so especially against

an infrared number is just fucking stupid

it's unprincipled or does it make you feel good that so many of these left disagree with you

that's not that's not a group of people you want

to associate with or

engage in agreement with

ok so i want to actually talk about the topic today and it's actually not only about the rouche

it's about a guy called

ja who

so

do you think feds are behind this but yes i think our enemies and feds are aggravating a fucking stupid conflict and i'ming explain why it's a stupid conflict

and i want this to be the be all end all

of this dumb dispute that's going on

ok

so there's a guy named jehu i don't know if you're familiar with

and he runs a blog called the real movement

which in myself

oz and the showrunners

have been very influenced by over the years right we're not jay who is necessarily thank you amila

they can't even address any of larouche's ideas

also i'm sick of random regards on twitter infighting in public and giving our enemies ammunition i agree

s jahu is someone that's influenced the showrunners

we've been influenced by him

to quite a significant degree actually

over the years

and

it's not it's not really that we're like part of a cult a jeho cult we're like we just uncritically agree with everything he says no there's a lot we don't agree with him about

what

we think he's introduced a new perspective

that

should deserve more attention right basically right

it's kind of similar to nick land and dougan in them

and it's that whole thing about

his dispute with

other marxoid academics

and we basically side with him in all those disputes and he's

it's basically exposed

and important contradiction within contemporary classical marxism

so jay who's a guy who you know

we very much are in favor of

and

most importantly though

for whom we the show runners

possess a great deal of respect

the key word respect right

now

ah apparently the schiller people

or someone there

he doesn't like ja

and

they don't like jayhu and i'm going to say

maybe it's a misunderstanding this is what i want to talk about

they don't like jahu because they don't like the slogan or the idea of free time and nothing else

they don't like the slogan

free time and nothing else

there's a whole contradiction

it's a pretty deep

theoretical contradiction kind of manifesting itself

in the community

for stupid reasons

actually

which is between one perspective

which is saying that

we need to decrease work

and

you know

by eliminate work thank you m j

free time we make a critique of it that's why we are maoists

we make a critique of it in order to improve socialism

the next time he comes around and throws people like your into a labor camp

yeah

thank you j

so there's one perspective so the community is really big on a lot of the larou policy proposals

the world land bridge and kind of infrastructure development unleashing human creativity unleashing the productive forces

and and that is kind of i guess come into contradiction with another faction of the community

which says

we need to

actually do everything we can to shk

curb work

and shorten work

and increase free time

and this is an obvious contradiction to the lrouge philosophy

and the schiller philosophy according to which

not any you know loose free time but actually unleashing the human labor potential and creativity

is the aim and that is the good that's the aims

so there's this kind of conflict that one says ok let's just

no new jobs one says let's have

a billion new jobs and there

jho people are saying no that's

no we should have let in zero jobs right

and it's the most retarded fucking dispute i could possibly think of

and i'm going to establish why it's a stupid fucking conflict

ok

we are just a list of positive yeah i know we are

but the but what are you what better who better makes like

laruci's policy proposals are represent a positive vision

for what a society will do in the positive not just in terms of what it wants to destroy

but in the positive in a way that's very much

in line with what china is already doing

so that's why it has such a strong appeal within the community

doesn't mean we agree with everything about larouci's philosophy

it just means that

in contrast luruss's strongest point is policy

now in my humble opinion

this is just my opinion

our community is a platform that

affords a range of differing opinions including ones that contradict

my own

but my humble opinion is that

i don't think lrouche has a big strong point when it comes to building a mass movement

or

you know i

understanding like media theory or anything like that

or even you know when it comes to building a party or maybe i'm just knocking on an open door who knows

but i do think lusi's strong points are policy

not necessarily the methods

proposed to arrive at the ability to implement those policies

but just

like policy itself and that's because there is this underlying philosophy

lauch has contrived

of placing an emphasis in terms of his understanding of political economy

on the physical economy

which is very important

and remember the thing that distinguished laroue from the left

at the time

that

his views were becoming incipient

and then and and

distinguishing themselves from the left

from the marxs of his day

was because the new love

was starting to neglect the productive working class it was starting to neglect the industrial working class

and larouche was basically not having any of this he was saying ok

the reason the working class is the significant in the first place

is because it produces real tangible things it's a real industrial working class

so it's not baris does and all this service sector bulshit that's not a real physical economy

that's where the roose comes in

and that amounts to his

for me has been some of the

the significance of it right why why is it that his policy proposals

so much resonate with infrared in the infrared community

it's because we share that perspective which is also the marxist leninist

a mouse a nn thought

thank shop being thought perspective that is

prevailing in china

which emphasizes the physical real economy

over the financial abstraction of the and then there's so much political

associations that correspond to that like for example

they left

is allied with the financial elites

because they're promoting these bullshit jobs and these promote these unproductive sectors and the marginalized groups

at the expense of the productive working class

it's not about financial vers industrial capital

because capital as such

has become entirely subsumed by finance

it's more about how there's a divergence between the actual

physical needs of an economy in terms of reproducing ways of life

and reproducing people

with the current

system that we have

which is the reign of capital

so it's a very clear what you're witnessing there

is a contradiction between the relations of production and the forces of production

and the larouche people

very vaguely

have aligned themselves with a positive vision of the forces of production

at the expense of the current relations

which the monopoly financial capitalists alongside their left wing prostitutes

are trying to preserve

at the expense of the survival of humanity

ok so that is why we are so close

to the larouche people

it's not because we're controlled by them or that they created us

it's because

our you thisunique marxism of infrared

happens to happens to have tread a

not dissimilar path that larouche himself tread

in terms of the development of his own marxism which yeat did lead him to abandon marxism

eventually which is something we disagree with

but that that primary contradiction

of like the new left

and its abandonment of the industrial working class

is something

that you know

we are on a similar point of agreement

it with them about

so

that so it's very explicable why like we're so close to the schiller institute

and why there's so much overlap between this community of infrared and schiller

gank

so i just want to emphasize that

and on the other hand the kind of

the free time movement

the jehu people

who are also part of the community and will

also always have a place within the community by the way

i want more people to read jeho and he's criminally underrated even within the community

but i just don't want that to come at the expense of all of the good things we've adopted from the schiller people

that's really where i'm trying to come from here

i just don't want one side of this

okay

anyway

what i'm actually getting at here

is that ok as far as the conflict is concerned

so

i really have to piss

ok i really have to piss i'm not going to apologize

i'm in a piss and i'm going to come back

and you're going to get the definitive breakdown

itee me like one minute

why this is a stupid conflict and what are the origins

so called ruism

yadayadyaa give me secd

i

so because

of this really stupid conflict that's going on

a

i'm going to actually give you a rundown something i've actually never done before

i kind of a primer on jehu and his thinking

and it's actually pretty ironic and it's pretty strange

when you have an educated perspective on this

because from a historical perspective

from a political sociopolitical perspective if you want

a class perspective

larouche larouche's thinking and jehu's thinking

are somewhat

similar

in terms of their origins

and their purport

so larouche's origins

concerned

this divergence

posed by the new leth

with the classical industrial working class

somehow there was a divergence between the real physical economy

and the price signals and the i guess value form that is meant to measure that economy

well jeho's kind of dealing with the exact same thing

with the emergence of the service sector and the deindustrialization that has happened

has risen very superfluous what they call bullshit jobs stupid forms of labor

and jehu has sought about to understand the nature of the current system

within which we live

and you know according to us what implications does this after marxs theory of value you know the basic

questions concerning marxist

of our time and of our day

what is the status of the labor theory of value

in an age

that seems to have radically diverged

from the form of capitalism

mark's wass dealing with

what ja you kind of

eventually arrives

at this

pretty b you know bold insight

and i say bold because all he was was grave in addition to being brilliant

he wasn't some kind of pussy or coward like the other marxoys were

who are trying to like

ignore this glaring fact that we're not living in the capitalism marks described anymore

he begins with

what implications did the abandonment of the gold standard have

when marx very clearly outlines within capital

that the universal medium of exchange within capitalism

must quantify a definite magnitude of labor

how can the labor theory of value be driving our economy how can the law of value be in full operation

when in fact

m

the unit of currency itself the medium of exchange

does not objectively quantify any given magnitude of value which gold does

remarks gold is the universal medium of exchange

from which all other kinds of currencies are merely derivative

and they can't escape the metallic barrier basically

because gold represents a definite quantum of labor

the mining that is required to mine gold for example

and that's why it's that's why there is a universal value form according to marx

but with the abandonment of the gold standard and the manipulation of price

prices and currencies according to political

ends

and political goals

it seems like the law of value is no longer in operation

at least as mark was describing it

so jay whu arrives at the conclusion

that we're not living in capitalism anymore

we're rather living in fascism

that's how he puts it

now i don't necessarily agree with that characterization

but i do agree with the distinction he draws we're not living in the capitalist modor production

i just wouldn't call it fascism

i would say it represents a definitive rupture

of a transition into a so objectively socialist moteve production

and what i do think jay who is correct about about his characterization of fascism is just that

i do think that the preservation of the capitalist superstructure

including the financial institutions that are a relic of this past

will in fact culminate in fascism

my difference is kind of

semantic i guess

i don't think there's a fascist mode of production

i think fascism

a is of is an emergency form of like protecting the bousgeois institutions

when the forces of production

have outmoded them

and the moti production has outmoted them so it's a very like small

semantical difference

he calls the mode of production itself ashiest

i rather say that the

need for the preservation of the bougewis capitalist institutions

that have been outmoded by the motor production itself to be preserved will require fascism because fascism is political

so it's not really a meaningless meaningful

a distinction or disagreement

but

jeho arrives at that conclusion and then he asked the question

okay

what is actually sustaining

capital as such because capital

or at least

the pursuit of profits if you will

very much is still a reality

m

characterizing our moteve production or characterizing our economy

despite that it's not rooted in the law of value proper

it seems to be rooted according to jeho

in the creation of superfluous

basically unnecessary

from the perspective of the creation of value but

necessary from the perspective

of the sustenance of the bloodsucking parasitical capitalist system

bullshit jobs bullshit forms of labor

forms of labor which do not produce value

but which sustain

the economic system of capital

that we live it

and what that means is basically it's sustaining the kind of

false

profits that are being earned

which come at the expense of the

increases in value

so je who arrives at this idea mainly to distinguish himself from all the other marxids and leftists

that he's dealing with is this like

all these other leftists just talk about how they want tou

reorganize the workplace where they want

democratic socialism

but they're not dealing with the fact that capitalism today

has acquired almost an exclusively institutional basis

capitalism isn't today a thriving vital mode of production

it's

held together

by this institutional tyranny

institutional jobs

institutional wage labor an institutional wage labor system

the in institutional capital itself which is actually financial capital right

h

based in wall street in the city of london as the laroue people correctly described

ja who does not really dowell on the question of the physical economy

because up until this point it has not really been relevant

for marxi's critique of political economy

remember marxist critique of political economy

was an unfinished project

he did not really get into the niceties and the details

of an economy as as like a physical thing as such

he didn't necessarily get into that

all he did was expose the inherent contradictions of the capitalist system

between the valorization of labor

and labor itself in so far and this is what's important

remarks

in so far as labor exerts a negative tendency

with regard to the value form

so marx's an understanding of labor

is philosophically based on the transformation of nature and yada yad yada

but in so far as it concerned his understanding of the capitalist system

remarks

labor exerts a purely negative tendency

in relation to the value form in the form of the falling rate of profit

that's how labor's existence

as searched itself

so for marks

labor's existence so far as the capitalist is concerned

doesn't actually exert itself

in the transformation of society and the building of infrastructure and industry

it manifests itself in the form of the falling rate of profit which

is a n it purely negative destruction of the value for

so at the outset

i have to emphasize something and i fuck and hope you idiots are paying attention

i have to emphasize some

what larouche means

and what jehu mean

by work or labor are two entirely different things

larousi is concerning labor

as a kind of unit of energy

he call he calls his understanding of the physical economy

his measurement of its energy flux density

l rouche is concerned

with a post capitalist he may not agree with this

raising

a post capitalist

physical economy

he's concerned

with questions of energy

and technology

and the

labor as a productive like in a very general and not historically relative sense

a physical sense right

that's what larouche and larouche people are concerned with

as far as i know

but what jahu is concerned with

is not labor in any broader general sense

what he means by work

and therefore free time

is the institutional form of wage labor

he's concerned

with

institutionalized labor labor under the straitjacket

of the value former of capital

which is wage labor

so those are two entirely different things

that is what we need to establish here

jehu has contrived a theory

describing the collapse of the capitalist system

but that is only in so far as

shut the fuck up here you stupid bitch

that is only in so far i don't know how that

that is only in so far

as the capitalist system

has been reduced

to a superstructure

a political dictatorship fascism as jahu would call it

rather than an underlying

vigorous and vital mode of production

so jay who is

has a theory of how the capitalist mode of production

is collapsing or how it can collapse

and i'm going to get more into that later

whereas la rouge

as far as i'm concerned

is dealing with the theory of a post capitalist

political economy

which is going to be measured in terms of energy and it's going to be measured in terms of

technology or something like that

so larouche is post capitalist

je who is still dealing with the realities of capitalism now

larouche is kind of oriented toward the future

where the capitalist motor production

no longer has any political significance

andan jet who is dealing with the here and now

so that is a very important distinction at the outset

to make

you're not talking about the same falking things

jehu is talking about wage labor

and the larouche people are talking about labor as a physical

force

those are not the same thing

conflating those two things

commits the error

that mars talks about of

reducing some general economic

sorry a confusing general economic laws

with historically relative ones

so that needs to be emphasized

when jehu talks about free time

he is not talking about any positive solutions

he's not telling us what free time looks like

he's not telling us ok this is

how free time will be organized

no that's going to be decided by a communist or socialist society

he's talking about

i'm not spent being a fucking wage slave

so i think there's a place for la root there because

if larouche is talking about something that's post capitalist

and which inevitably is therefore

beyond the wage labor system

there's room to ask the question

is larouche describing free time when larouche talks about

unleashing the productive forces or whatever

is that a form of free time

well however utopic and however unrealistic people might allege it is

it is it's an imagination of free time

la rouche is talking about free timeust talking about in the positive senyarding i'm unleash our productive power

exactly

so larouche is talking about free time

he's just not doing it

he's doing it in a positive manner

now whether you agree with his

his arm

view of free

i'm going to be honest with you

i don't necessarily

and

i think where i disagree with larouche as far as his conception of free time

is that i think in many ways it still presupposes institutions

and you know put economic forms

that

he that have already been condemned by virtue of what they've culminated into

and what i mean by that is that for example

the reason i'm saying that the larouche people are positioned against capitalism

is because when they describe the dictatorship of wall street and

i

the city of london

that is capitalism as far as our society is concerned

that is what capitalism actually became that is what it is that is what is capital

that is there is a direct line of lineage between marks

and the system of political economy

sorry

the capitalist system he was describing in england

there is a direct line between that system

and the dictatorship of financial capital that we now see today

so objectively speaking

the lrouche people are anti capitalist

objectively

now if they have a different definition of capitalism and they might say

okay

a eventually i want

to recreate a better version of capitalism

i

maybe

maybe they will say that

but as far as the objective capitalism that exists today

they are anti capitalist and they are against the ruling class

that's an objective fact

maybe shoe's goe with jahu and logo

the thing is i think there's just a misunderstanding here

i

and that's why i wanted to talk about i just think it's a misunderstanding in a lot of ways

first of all

i know that tweet that space larouche made i'm not here to

say that tweet was in may

i don't agree with that at all obviously i think was extremely unfair

thing was extremely unjustifiable

and i think it was a mistake and i think

they agree it was a mistake i'm not sure

the reason i think it's a mistake to say that is because

i think it conflates

see the quote tweets of the tweet are not just jahoo's people it's a bunch of fucking leftoys

and the problem with that is that it's

putting it's lumping jay who in

with those fucking red it anti workpeople

two different things

jehu is concerned

with a revolutionary strategy

to collapse the institutions of contemporary capitalism

anti work people

are a bunch of lazy nit

bums who just

don't want to fucking work

two different things

jahu is not sanying

that free time isn't going to be spent

exerting labor physically

he's not saying that

he's not saying anything about free time and why would he

mm

started out

from a marxist political economy perspective

of exposing these fucking fraudulent fake marxoid dumpfucks

and exposing the internal contradictions of them

ja who's not concerned with policy proposals of what socialism going to look like what communs going to look like

he's not

oka we don't he doesn't know what it's going to look like

he's not concerned with that

um

now can we be concerned with that we can and that's and that's because according to me

we are already living in a socialist motor production

so when we contrive policies and solutions and ideas

like that a minimal program

that's

that is already presupposing the victory of the socialist motor production

that exists that's why so much of our program is cleaning house

with

the bureaucracy and the

bougeois socialist state and completely collapsing it to its

minimum of the constitution

and then from there we can rebuild

we can rebuild under a proletarian dictatorship

and our positive solutions will be

things like

massive infrastructure a national bank

lot of the things laruiz talks about

it's just not going to happen

within the frame

of the existing financial institutions corporations and established forms of capital

going to be more like the chinese system where incpients

forms of capital are going to be promoted

among the people

from the soil of the people

the little guy's going to have a chance

to build

industries and

you know unleash their

ability to build businesses and stuff

at the expense of the established ones

i

but there's something i think both sides of the argument

and i'm knocking on an open door here so i'm not trying to pigeonhole people

or straw man them into a position

they don't deserve to be straw man into

but there's also something there's also an element lacking here

which is

mainly concerning

the thing about land reform

right i think

i don't want to say both sides bad but it kind of seems like both sides

are presupposing

m

that revolutions in the forces of production

presuppose

revolutions in institutional parrot

eriic dimmll revolutions

in the institutions

this is what actually my theory is as far as how i propose k waves

happen

contraci of waves

through land reform

which basically you

culverrises

the existing relationship between the state and the institutions with the unit

of individual subject

land reform basically broadens that

and gives the

a broader spectrum of the people a piece of the pie of the state

for example

and this revolutionizes and overthrows

it's like the law of the gatekeepers

institutions have a very limited relationship with the demos and the people

like for example the aristocracies of the ancient regime the nobility

and then a land reform

opens up the extent of the state's relationship to the people

and sets it on a new basis a fresh new ground

ye zero

ok

this is a necessary prerequisite according to me i think this for me is more fundamental

then

sloganeering for reduced hours of labor

but that's just me

k

i do think it should be part of our program

to slash the workday in half

but i think it's always going to be about land reform the thing that's going to

bring you to power the thing that's going to create a mass movement of people

who once in the reigns of power can in fact slash

hours of labor in half

is going to be land reform

and where i have agreement with jehu is that

coupled with the equivalent of a land reform which is an institutional revolution year zero for the institutions

um

that's corresponding with the reduction of labor hours

will devastate the service industry

in a way that won't have to be just political

we won't have to come down we wt se we won't have to weaponize the state and just say

ok we're shutting down the whole service industry by by gunpoint

we could rather have

a reduction in labor hours

which will economically render the service industry superfluous

but the goal is to smash the bureaucracy and more radically

bully eliminate to the service industry entirely

reduction in the labor

the reduction in labor hours

which i think we can grind down to one hour

i'm a crazy fucking person but think about it

we have a

we have

bare bones industrial working class jobs for everyone

you don't have to work many hours a day because everyone's going to be working this

so something that represented maybe

twenty percent

one hundred percent right so you can let's say you can ha you can

reduce the working day to a fifth of what it currently is

just because

think about it like you can

get rid of the bolsit jobs everyone gets to work productive jobs

even according to our own capacities now

the bare bones

and i think this will be a nationalized industry

is'm i'm giving you a utopic revolutionary scenario

it has a grain of truth to it as far as the real strategy

so the state nationalizes steel industries mining industries oil industries

whatever

and every and everyone works maybe a wage job of some kind

one hours a day in those industries ok

that's year zero

and then with all of the free time that people have left over they're not just going to be sitting around

a new economy will grow

one that is beyond wage labor

beyond the paradigm of late wage labor

and beyond the paradigm of the capitalist system

and it will still have businesses and it will still have market forces

but

it's not going to be dictated

by

the pure pursuit of profit it's going to be like that more digital

i

a tension based economy it's going to utilize

the whole algorithmic economy and all that

fresh nice stuff

right

so

that's where i'm coming from here we basically reduce the entire capitalist economy

to a nationalized form of bare bones state

state owned enterprise industries we will work one hour a day

two hours a day

and the rest of their time is going to be spent

doing what laroue talks about unleashing their fucking human potential

and free time is not arbitrary time

ok

free time doesn't mean a bunch of individuals

running around fucking you know with their pants off

like you want to see i mean if then that case free time is downtown los angeles right

um

no free time just means

time not defined by wage labor

will it be organized yes

could it even be centralized yes it's going to have to be if we're going to be a society

is it going to be vast in scale

terms of its organization yes

how exactly will it work i don't know i think it's going to be kind of

more of a begin decentralized and then culminate

into something i think i think this is a formula for actually

revolutionizing

of state owned enterprises like eventually something that begins decentralized market

becomes a monopoly acquires such vastness in scale

that it then becomes nationalized and that becomes the primary form of labor

and the whole process is restarted

so

the socialist motor production will be a cyclical series of k wave revolutions

corresponding to revolutions of the forces of production

so that's my idea of merging jahu

and larouche

and

on that note i have to take another piss i had fucking

two bottles of water just now and this is disaster give me a second

i

amen

ok

so i really hope you guys

have

there's more to talk about when it comes to thiss well it's not just this that i'm telling you there's way more to talk about when it comes to this issue

a

not drawing a distinction between wage labor

and labor in general is the problem may thiss distract you

thank you so much maan

also there's more i want to say as well

when it comes to

they usho dialectical materialism is all about breaking free from false dichotomies

sadly leftoits who think their communists didn't seem to get the memo

so

where can we specifically when it concerns the economy

where should we learn from la rouche

i

like sergei glazev

and the chinese marxist scholars are currently

are doing

what is legitimate about lautias

eriic demmel revolution

in his understanding of political economy

in contrast to all preer prior economic theories

which kind of makes larouche unprecedented right

i think one of believe it or not one of the thinkers who i think was touching upon

where larouche arrived

was none other than the french author georgie battai

if you can believe it to people who are

very different

but there's a book i can kind of recommend it's called b ties peak

and it's about energy and ecology in relation to

georgia bttiesed thought

in any case

something happens in the one nine hundred seventy s that marks a very clear distinction

any capitalist motor production if that motor production even exists

at that point in time which i don't think and i think the abruption is the socialist motor production proper

i

so

larouche

will say things and lus people will say things like

we disagree with the marxist

because the marxists are still operating according to a paradigm of a labor theory of value

and they say in contrast

why speak of labour

when the true theory of values about energy

so they have more of an energy theory of value energy is more important

and what are they wrong

no

i mean in a way they're not wrong

right

but i'm going to explain why the labor theory of value is still legitimate

but on this specific point you have to hear them out

labor is only significant

s far as they're concerned

because it's a form of energy

so

energy is what really matters

so in an interesting way it's kind of a neo physiocratism

in a sense it's concerning the physical economy

physical reproduction of the economy

specifically from the perspective of

replacing labor which was the subject of classical political economy

with energy which is the subject of our

currents political economy

if you will our post modern political economy

now is this is this on reasonable no

you guys ever heard of the petrol dollar

the dollar is literally sustained

by the price of oil

energy drives the world

almost every form of

currency

and

specifically goods and services

is

proxied by oil

the price of oil determines all of that

you price of oil goes down so does the price of food if it goes up so does the price of food

oil is a proxy for almost every aspect of our economy

energy

so there's something very legitimate about that shift in orientation

and the labor theory of value should be profoundly re examined

in light of this

periic deml revolution

which goes from a theory of political economy

based in discrete units

of input

to a paradigm of the economy

that concerns the general fluxes so ok classical political economy

they were concerned with inputs units of labor being input

right

in our post modern socialist economies

we're more concerned with

is the tap on or is the tap off there's a tap

if you turn the tap on

there's a flux there's a stream

of energy

there's a stream of economic power

right

and if you turn it off it's all over

whereas in classical political economy instead of a general stream and instead of a flux

you're dealing with discrete units of work and the exertion of work

and actually the significance of work

within the framework of classical political economy

is actually about thermaldynamics sorry it's anticipating thermal dynamics

but it's more about how the fucking steam engine works

it's a mechanical paradigm

so our paradigms of political economy

are historically relative

according to these specific mode of production or the specific threshold of

the forces of production where the specific k wave cycle

whatever you want to call it thank you so much black aprecisman

labor is just another way of saying energy pu to work wh i disagree with that

i disagree with that

um yeah ckrypto was determined by wor

it's because it's electricity right

so

there's something there there's something really big there

again

are paradigms of understanding political economy

are historically relative

to the force to the scientific paradigms

dominating the current forces of production

marxist political economy was presupposing the categories of

very primitive thermodynamics

the steam engine

now we are dealing with a different paradigm

m which is beyond that

to move beyond that

now if you want the real

kill

far as

this is concerned

the paradigm i want to anticipate not just for political economy

but for politics and the theory of state

is

one pertaining to modern physics nuclear energy

fusion energy

that's where the real money is as far as i'm concerned

and actually this new significance of oil

and fossil fuels quot unquote

is just a

kind of subset

of this new

modern physical paradigm

whose

furthest it what the steam engine was

and marxs time

we are now dealing with a nuclear age in our time

now that's something that's going to be hard to wrap your head around

because it presupposes a very advanced

command of dialaleectics

which i'm not that's why i'm not going to outline it and this stream it'll be too confusing

and likely too overwhelming for people

so that so so this is why there's a legitimacy to what larouse is dealing with

but first of all

in defense of marxism

or the old marxists i should say who have not yet updated themselves and updated the theory of value

to the current economy we have

this includes jahu

work

as it's a category within marxism

is not

necessarily metaphysical

ultimately it is metephysical in some sense

i metaphysical i just mean like

out there

right

dealing with the physical world

but it's principally a kind of social category

work for marxism is defined

negatively in relation to for example capital and wage laborl

work

that's why people get away with this idiotic claim

that baristas are proletarians engaged in the work that marx was talking about

because from a seemingly formal perspective

they are engaged in wage labor they're paid for a wage

even if you're paid to

put your thumb in your ass and spin around in a circle all day

in a spinny chair

according to the marxoids

that is a form of wage labor

now technically speaking from a strictly formalistic perspective

they're right

because marxism

within its limited scope

does not concern itself with a kind of like metaphysics of late

well what labor is actually productive

and what labor actually is the labor proper

now just because marx doesn't really flesh this out and how could he have he couldn't have

he didn't live long enough to see

the changes we see today

doesn't mean marks has nothing to say about that

it's in marx's early philosophical manuscripts and his early writings and even in the beginning pages of capital

that marx does very clearly define the significance of labor

and the way marx defines the significance of labor

is exactly the same as larouchs why because i'm pretty sure larouche

not his for marks

and's the whole reason why lroue broke with the new left because of this

significance of early philosophical marxis

understanding of the significance of labor

which did concern the threshold defining humanity's relation to nature

the transformation of nature

thank you so much johnny

cia agents are working class because they have to work for a way underscored cl exactly

thank you so much johnny

now

wage labor

wage labor is

sorry

sorry sorry labor

as far as marx is concerned

first of all it's social

marx does not see labor as the sum total of

individual actions exerted by individual human beings

marx sees labor as the general means by which

humanity

in a given society

reproduces its own existence

remarks

that is labor

the means by which they reproduce their own existence

by entering into some kind of intercourse productive intercourse with nature

and remrks that is labor

so labor is social

labor is something

non individual

it's rather

general and societal

and i

it concerns the trance the threshold by which humanity

reproduces its existence in relation to nature

ok

and that reproduction is itself productive

for dialectical reasons

so as far as marx is concerned that's labor

gam

now in the beginning this is where all the confusion comes from because in the beginning

volumes of capital in the beginning chapters in the beginning volume of capital

marx is

playing ball with the theoreticians of classical political economy

in his understanding of labor is actually an individual thing

so for marks

the site at which value is created

this is not what he's saying he's just

presupposing

what the

classical political economists had already been save

the sighte of the creation of value concerns itself at the level of the discrete in individual inputs of production

the individual worker exerts

so

value was derived from paying one worker let's say a certain wage

and

when it's like what bread tube tells you about

exploitation in the theory of value

you pay a worker to do something

and this produces an excess

they're specific form of labor

produces some kind of excess

which manifests itself in the form of profit

and therefore surplus value

and that's how the process of exploitation of labor happened

at the level of the

individual form of labor

that

is

being engaged in by the work

like

the wage exchanges

or a labor

which manifests itself in the form of profit

and that's where the creation of surplus value is happening

scodworth you're saying no make a fuckin argument that

and if you're missing if you're miss if you are putting words in my mouth

and assuming i'm saying something i didn't just fuck and say

i will fok in banon

because this is very basic shit

now the problem arises in the third volume of marx's capital

in the third volume of marks as capital

marks

discovers

that

the rate of profit

is uniform

there's a uniform rate of profit

if there is a uniform rate of profit in all society

then

profit

and value is not

actually created at the level of individual labor

it's created at the aggregate level of society as a whole

as associs

as one universal sociis

and therefore for marx

the temporal logic

of retrocusiality

introduces itself

because

magically this is the mystery right

instead of individual inputs of labor

producing

profit

whatever

our value

the acess is

only created at an aggregate level

and the aggregate retrocusually establishes its own premises in individual labor

that is the ultimate mystery of marx

and as a matter of fact this is what the transformation problem is actually all about

the so called transformation problem

but the whole mystery of the transformation problem

is that people don't realize marks was trying to build up

from and the

premises of classical political economy which are about discrete units of production

drawing from the thermodynamic paradigm of

the steam engine

to

a more electric

paradigm

right

which is dealing with

something that is universally social and at the aggregate

which therefore has to deal with all the conundrums of modern physics and

electromagnetism

which coincidentally

engles was extremely interested in

the time and angles

viewed the

discoveries of electromagnetism

which was dealing more with waves and spectrums rather than discrete billard like particles

like billard balls

that newton was dealing with

engels was anticipating this as yes this is the vindication of dialectical materialism

so the bad rap that marx gets

has to do

with what he was beginning with which was just english classical political economy

but the entire odyssey

and

capital

from volume one to three

is marks slowly breaking out of this paradigm

and introducing something entirely new

and

this is specifically clear

when he deals with the question of the average rate of profit of society as a whole

and how marx deals with that question

and the way marx deals with that question is that

the creation of value can only be understood

retro causually or retro chronically

instead of one

type of like the labor that is actually productive

is revealed after the fact

not before

so there' is that whole significance of labor for marx

and i think this specifically

approximates

and anticipates

a physical understanding of

the economy

because

it's approximating

the kind of

k

ca ratio

paradigm

a rig demel view

according to which

the significance of labor which is social

is defined by the threshold of the development of the forces of production

and

that's also why you know it's interesting because

in anti during when angles is

outlining marxs

theory of skilled labor versus unskilled labor

you also see the retrocaudial

the dialectical logic

at play

for angles

skilled labor merely compounds

unskilled labor

and if that's true

then unskilled labor is the measure of value

unskilled labor is what's rob

and

vital

right it's unskilled labor that's raw and vital

and skilled laborer just compounds that

skilled labor is just derivative of that

now what defines the least quantum threshold of unskilled labor it's obviously something historically relative

but it's also something that's directly defined

by the threshold of the productive forces

and the kdracif

kdra sh of k paradigm

so for example

a given revolution in the forces of production

you know new technology that's sweeping all of society whether it's the steam engine or whether it's

electricity or something i don't know

i

new types of factories or whatever

changes

a certain threshold between

let's say a relative average uneducated

blank slate

person a unit of the sociates

and

the

horses of production

so their labour is augmented and transformed

by this can trachi of paradise

redefining what it means for there to be unskilled labor

let me put it in words that are probably

i know this sounds like a bunch of word salad i'm jus going to make it simple for you

so unskilled labor in cave man times is just when you run around like a retard and you just start hitting people and you have nothing to do here throwing rocks at the wall

human beings genetically whatever haven't changed since cave man times supposedly

so it's still the same type of human being

but the unskilled labor in cave man times is just a guy running around naked being retarded

but unskilled labor in a modern society is quite different

you could have no education

you can have a moderately average

upbringing

terms of your competency

and you can be

you could go to the factory and

you can you can

follow the commands

dictated to you by your workplace you can just

put things together and

very minimal bare bones on skilled labor

so the tabula rasa unskilled labor is historically relative and it's defined by the forces of production

and

fascinatingly

for marks and angles that unskilled labor is what defines

social universal labor in general

it's the average

normal amount of

skill

and the average person will have

when confronted

with

the general forces of production

so there's two generalities

the generality of the forces of production the average way in which human beings

de'al with nature

and then the generality of labor the universality of labor

and the universality of labour is defined

by this

threshold of the forces of production

so that is what is fascinating within marks that's often neglected

the parod parodig moal aspect

of the k waves the draci of waves

and then what i introduce and throw into the ring

is land reform because for me

land reform is what resets

this economic sociis

and which creates the institutional fertile soil

were a revolution in the forces of production

which can reset

the law of value and reset

the following rate of profit

to create a new threshold by which value can be created

because

here's the thing

it's not just the forces of production on the one hand and the tabulaasa

human individual on the other hand

this is also mediated by institutions these institutions are the institutions of the state

politics

and civil society

these institutions also undergo perd pery damil revolutions

in terms of how they relate to the organization of the individual the administration and organization

of the individual

in the fordest society is the is so it for example

there's some something called fordst society right

the assembly lines of the ford factories

and then the theories corresponding to fordism like taylorism which tried to regulate

the motion of the human body in a certain way to maximize efficiencies of production

i

these are what you would call

k waves

a

pringdam

paradigms right

and the land reform that corresponded to the emergence of fortism

took some kind of form of you know

what each family has a white picket fence house and a car

and this land reform in theory

at least under f d r maybe what happen after change that

should have reset the process

of the creation of value

now the interesting thing is that

this line reform happened the f d r whatever new deal

iftise picket fence whatever revolution

and yet

so and this this this

was

a

something that happened at the expense

capitalism

because the capitalist motor production collapsed in the one nineteen thirty s in the great depression

and yet somehow our economies

have

kept on groaning

and

kept on expanding and we still have economies

so how do you explain that

well that's where people like luse come in

seeking new economic paradigms

beyond classical political economy which could go no farther than the nineteen thirtyes

which emphasize things like energy and

physical aspect

but what i don't think larouche paid enough

attention to

was the fact that he was

attempting to pose

a political economy

serious political economy

in the age

socialism

i'm missing a lot of things e i'm i'm missing the aspect of credit and finance

and its significance there

but the land reform

of the nuw deal

was actually about a lend reform of credit

it created new institutions

that directed credit

in a way that was accessible to the average person

and which therefore gave the average american a chance at the american dream to start their own businesses

and

it is somewhat true

that

this did work

older forms of capital

probably didn't disappear but there was you know for example what is what is that toy company

the toy company that the biggest one in the world right now in america

started in someone's garage in like the fuck one nine hundred forurty s

it had a shot at success because

there was a revolution in the credit system

that made

the distribution of credit

to the average person

more accessible

matyl yeah it's matyl

now

interestingly enough i'm going all over the place

the iranian revolution was quite similar actually

in the iranian revolution

the shah actually did attempt a literal land reform that was called the white revolution

where he wanted to take land

from some of the noblemen that were opposed to him re not

as loyal to him

and redistribute it to persian peasants

so why didn't why did the shaw still get overthrown

well because

a lot of people

neglect this fact

they call mania reactionary or something because komini opposed the white revolution actually he opposed this redistribution of land

actually

something similar happened in afghanistan

where the communists did try to do something like the white revolution

and

lo and behold it was opposed by the majority of the offgan people because it was a

way of undercutting the kind of

deep

embedded social relations of

the islamic countryside

which is different from

western europe

so what was the economic significance of the iranian revolution then well

fllow the credit it was about credit

the average uranian in this process of modernization

couldn't get loans out to start their own businesses

they couldn't get loans out to you know

get a house or

starts their own kind of way of life

that was reserved

for those who were

the elite that was loyal to the shaw's regime

thanks would not

give the ordinary average iranians any credit

only if you lived in tehran you're part of the elites

do you have access to that credit

so the land reform that happened under komini

in addition to the real land reform that was discussed and proposed

in the eighties in the actual iranian government a real land reform

but the main one was how it universalized

the system of

the distribution of credit and the taking out of loans

to be more accessible to the average uranian

and that was experienced as a as the

revolutionary equivalent

sorry

the historical equivalent to the revolutionary land reforms

that you see across history

now what's interesting about that

is that it's very post modern

historically

we think of land reform

we're going to give you land

well land is something that's past oriented it's a

given plot of land is a

arable soil

and it's from the past but credit is about potentiality it's future oriented

i'm going to give you a certain amount of credit

so that you have the potential to do something

that doesn't yet exist

land exists in the past

right

reredit is about the future it is about directing the future

it's about steering the future

a

so that's why i say

the paradigm we must presuppose now is modern physics

and quantum physics and nuclear energy and stuff

that's all about this kind of contradiction between potentiality

in actuality in the fact that potentiality

is itself some kind of real force and real

presence

in the physical world

things that are potentially possible

even if they don't become actual

still exert

in effect

on the physical world

according to

a paradigm of modern physics

so this should open up

an understanding of credit

there's a guy who's associated with those urbanomic nickland people i think his name is sue how male

and he penned a long text

which i can easily recommend

called

an ontology of finance

and i think he makes these interesting connections between

modern physics

and the world of

complicated financial abstractions

which are by no means reducible to the

you know city of london wall street

parasitism

china has a financial system which deals with all of the complexities of modern finance

those are not just

nothing

they relate to something real

which is about again

potentiality future oriented

what directs production what

what is the purpose of production right

i

ref

in k waves from the ford era be compared to modern times if we presuppose the rate of profit is zero

since ninety seventy one in the dealing came gold for money

bas

thela movement from discrete to continuous logic in marx is something i've never considered

but you covered it beautifully

time to read capital

tell cay leb i'm sorry for not reading the eighteenth promier thank you flaming thank you so much i appreciate you

um

that's the thing rath

i have a different i don't have a cyclical

um

theory of k waves like most people do

i have an eschatological

theory of k waves

my eschatological theory of k waves basically that k waves don't reset

the capitalist moteor production

they deepen the process by which the capitalis motor production transitions into the socialist one

and then beyond that it's basically the

a dialectical cycle

that will exist even in communism

so i don't agree that k waves reset

the rate of profit

or anything i think they do something else

i think kay waves

represent this process of this runaway economic transformation

into a completely different mode of production and a completely different type of economy

you guys i'm going to take another piss

and then i'm going to grab a burger

beus i have a burger that i need to eat i have not en all day i ea din on stream in front of all of you

and then i'm goinga cover the cpusa stuff so give me a second

the

you

good morning revolution

good morning revolution

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they use so much infrared clips

and a miiel

holy shit thank you ma'am

appre siated it a lot

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you guys want to know the restaurant this is from

oh

i'm goninga talk about ktbot in a second

i have not eaten all day

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oh you didn't write another one

and i promised my last one

you thought i'm meeting one burger today

you really thought that

oh my god

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alright this is my last one

and then i want to talk about

can't buy

shout out to all the real ones on the cpu grind

oh thank you whoever that is

i just wish i could have seen it tell me what was shut

i

first of all

i want

i want my own critique of ktbat

to be my own

means i don't want

you bots

dog piling in

we're turning it into an anti conbot movement

but i still feel like i have the right to critique him

it was fifty

doarg thank you so much man what the fuck

he dropped a fifty

and oh shit i have to do the patrion q anda i'm such a fucking scumbag

we didn't even do any this month

forgt about

i will do it tomorrow it's ok

dog with the fifty thank you man holy shit

thank you so much maam

all right anyway

so

so i think i have a right to critique gantbot

um and i want be honest ok

i think cauntbot's being very onwn principles

i don't think he's acting according to any kind of

independent use of thought

it seems very evident to me that he's just

rolling with some imagined

crowd

that he seems to have faith in

irrationally

i think contbot is just under this dogmatic assumption

that there must be a grain of truth

and what' all of the left this thing

he can't quite pinpoint what that is or establish it but just

his reflexes point in the direction of

you can't really go against the left

he says i'm the authentic left sure but at the end of the day

he wants to be the rational colonel

of

the twitter mob of leftist

and i'm just fundamentally convinced of that

i think he's being unprincipled and i've tried to reach out to him privately multiple times

i just think he's been super uncharitable and extremely unfair

in a way that he's not willing to

bike

even try to defend or rationally justified

he's kind of more

submitting to this

like

cliquy kind of like oh i'm part of this group oh you're part of that group

it's like why though why don't you actually just lay out your criticisms and make them bear

and actually

you know

put them on the line

in some kind of way

so

he yeah he doesn't want to hear us out whatsoever he is extremely dismissive

which to me is just so disappointing because

why right but i don't know why because he just wants to be friends with leftists

i

now because i'm an expert at like map because i understand how everyone disappoints me human beings

generally don't think for themselves

they're part of herts

so contbot is tangentially related to the donald parkinson herd

which he's defected to because a lot of his like longstanding twitter friends

a're going in that direction

and

it's a herd right and he's just going with the herd basically

so contpot said something for example that anyone affiliated with larouche

you should stay away from them

because larouche decided to go to war with the left

i don't want to pose the question to com but but who the fuck is your left dude what left

don't talk to me about sun

abstract historical left or some historical tendency like

what left do you think is worth salvaging or defending

that exists right now

where is it

please explain to me what is worthwhile about the left

and you know he'll probably tell me he'll probably tell me something along as of the baristas

well at least that's that's the

that's the nucleus of a renewed labor movement

no it's not

the barista unionization effort

is one hundred percent going to be institutionally captured

by the democratic party machine

i find it so fucking baffling that you can make the argument

that it's going to lead to some kind of general workers movement

that's going to revive the historical laugh

and it's going to be this incepient spark that lights the fire at least

has the potential to

it's such a complete it's such like an utter negligence

of how politics

and class actually works in this country

the baristas are going to turn into a democrat controlled

craft union

like

captured demographic

of loyal democratic machine operatives

that's the only fucking reason the democrats are fully behind the unionization drives

and that's what the significance of the established unions

has amounted to

he he went from saying ok i don't mind people just trying to improve their lives personally

which was whatever

i don't think that's necessarily wrong

or it's like a whatever thing right

it neglected our objections on our side of the argument whatever but now he's moving to this thing where it's like

there's some guy on twitter's name is like abu rajal some fucking dumb fuck

i think it's the same dumbfulk who like had this theory that

instead of patriotic socialism

which is triggering all of my leftist fucking people that i'm a cocksucker to

we're going to have a compromise which is mexicanism

so's like a spineless fucking thing

the only reason you're

against patriotic socialism

it's because you have this unwarranted charity

toward the twitter mob and you're just assuming that

if they assume some kind of fucking position

it must be there's a grain of truth in it and my duty is to distill the grain of truth

about of why lefti this

are acting the way they do it couldn't possibly be that leftists represent a class of social parasites to the core

could it possibly be

that the left as we know it was created by the ford foundation and

like the billionaire soorrols and the rockefeller's

completely institutionally captured by academicdmi on the rest

could it possibly be

that they're the foots ideological foot soldiers of the real existing buseoisio

there must be some real rational kernel

defining why the fucking leftist twitter mob

behaves the way it does

and the smart people

like abu rajal and fucking kantbot are going to be here

to distill that rational kernel

put it into words

find that fucking spineless and pathetic

you're submitting to these fucking leftists in a hipster right way like

oh i'm not like those leftists i'm a critical leftist

i'm just

exp i'm s you a running apologya

for the fucking blue hair retards

on twitter

who from day one have tried to deplatform and destroy infrared

and that's all there is fucking to it

they're not they're not grounding their position

and any kind of like independent use of thought or any kind of ruthless criticism that all that exists

they're doing it from a perspective that always already presupposes

the social the transcendent social truth

of the left

and i've leftist

that's why they will always be wetted

to this establishment in the status quo i don't see any other fucking way

right

you're going to blame lucoxyan tendencies

i'm not going to blame lucoxian tendencies because

you can be a leukoxian

who isn't a fucking cocksucker to the fucking left

i just think it's on principled

i mean like it's just it's a matter of character and principle at this point

if you're just going to fuckh

you know like be so uncharitable

and hostile to us

just because you want to defend the leftin

be p accepted and part of that community as's fucking pathetic

right

that's what i have to say

he is giving too much of benefit of the doubt to them but to what end

oh guys lus is bad because he was attacking the left i'm a fellow leftist just like you guys

yeah dude i'm sure they're going to invite you to their fucking brooklyn new york parties and shit

so they're going to invite you to all their fucking little

chapel traphouse fucking clubs and shit

the little fucking

i don't even know what they fucking do their little fucking house parties and shit

he just wants to be accepted among them

is my fucking theory

to be honest

and it really pains me to say this and i don't want to fuck and say this shit

itl's like i've had enough

i've had enough

fucking keeping my mouth shut about a

he like accused my closest friend and colleague jackson of being a fed

why should i let that slide

was that fucking fair i know jackson personally

he's like the he's like the closest

non showrunner

i'm affiliated with

that's not fucking fair youre just going to call people feds why because you're fucking envious

because jackson's like a fucking by you shn' appreciate you

we need you to break down some of the history of the ford foundation and rockefeller etc investment into creat i did i gla soan i've done that in other streams believe it or not

i don't know if i enlisted those or if they're still on the main page but they're there

you want to know the saddest thing of all

auntbot hates jackson

for the same reason destiny does

cause he's being a fucking nerd and he sees jackson as like the jock bully

that's literally what je destiny said adverbatim

but conpat will try and like justify the same exact reflex

in so many other critical words

oh yeah jackson's a fed

why because like he represents someone who bullied you in school or some shit get the fuck out of your man grow up

i i didn't fucking attack connt bot because he

because iu ah he's just like the nerds who fucking tattle tailed on me in school and like

you know

i've always been enemies with i didn't give a fuck about

him being a murderer

right i respected him

on like by by virtue of the merit of his ideas and his thoughts

but for him jackson has to be fucking crucified and condemned

for some fucking cultural reason that

jackson's like a jock or some shit i don't fuck

only w calls him a grifter as well

i

bs

critique of jackson was basically the same as adorno's critique of jazz music

anything popular is fascist

yeah

it's like base

every pretend socialist on twitter has explained to me why roush is a nazi organization

they all used the same words like they all heard it from the same place they used to but they did hear it from the same place

because reb left radio

and donald farkinson

i did some like podcast where they fucking

you know they created this deranged fucking theory of larouche

this deranged conspiracy theory about the rooch which like

has gained currency amongt theentire the entire left

but you know it doesn't even come from them because hassan was touting the same fucking conspiracy theory

on his dream

which i believe he got from the chapoys

and where did the chop woyds get it from

who knows they're handlers

most likely

because

it may come as a surprise to you guys and it's crazy isn't it

you know the fucking government

eight

larouche and the fucking hate the schiller institute

i know it's crazy it's crazy that an organization

with ties to the iranian go sorry ties to the russian government

and the chinese government

and which is going against every single

fucking agenda

that is being pushed by the deep state

is in the crosshairs of the government in the deep state isn't that crazy

it's so surprising

that like the schiller institute is hated by the government and the cia

so crazy isn't it

well i mean like it's on the surface as far as why that is

that's another thing people seem to neglect

oh god larouti's cia really

really

you must have a did then you're like you're one of those conspiracy theoris who's like everything is a conspiracy

bking china's controlled opposition putin's controlled opposition

you're like a high level schizo if you fuck and think shiller

is glowy or their fence

putin is part of putin works for the cia

you know these skitz so fucking people do

they create a dogmatic theory of why they're not in power and the just be like

if you weren't cia you would adopt my maoist ideology

phutin works for the cia

because the real thing the cia fears is my mouws theory

and the reason my maois theory isn't in power right now is because of the cia's preventing it from happening

that's the fucking paranoid deranged

schizo theory

which is being parroted right now by none other than joe simms himself of the cpusa

if you can fucking believe it

no you can actually map on

very easily

what the government the cia actually fear

no not everything's a fucking conspiracy

yeah putin is an enemy of the cia and fugking the american state

if you don't know that i mean like i don't know you're on one of those you're one of those conspiracy theorists

youo are beyond the pale you're just beyond any fucking

you're literally schizophrenic at that point because you don't have any evidence

ist assuming it's true because

it's opposed to your ideology

the cia doesn't care about ideologies they don't care about your fucking little cults

they care about concrete threats

to the global agenda

whether it's in the form of iranian islamism omeini thought

chinese communism

russian

orthodox revivalism they don't give a fuck what it is

if you think they care about idea i me know it's sad

contpot himself is the one who used to say this all the time

contpad used to be like

yeah they don't care if you're rhodesian they don't care if you're a fascist

you don't care if you're a communist

it's all one system

of alignment

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you know that's been that was designed

and

he used to say that when he i guess when he used to be a marxist

he used to be a principal person but now i

contpot is saying that

the cia is behind the schiller institute

and who knows the cia's probably behind

infrared and the cia's also behind jackson inkle

because he's a fed

i think it's pathetic

to be honest

and you know what i will respectfully debate cont

on any number of these points

but i was feeling he's going to be like now you're a twitch streamer i don't go on these dirty streamer shows

it's all fake

it's all cia

break in

you know this is like it's like the thirty year old boomer problem is what it's dealing with

you know i want to i don't want to go there but i'm going to fuck and go there

there is something wrong with these people in their thirties

you know

it's a boomerverzoomer war

and i'm with the fucking zoomers

sorry

i'm not dealing with this mid thirties fucking boomer

viciousness

i'm not dealing with this shit

im just not

thank

it's like this thing where they think they're so pure

oh i'm not like one of those

no you're all in this you're all in the muck of this fucking dirt you're not fucking pure

because

you're you're above the fucking dynamics of the attention economy and tick talk and fucking twitch and shit

you yeah yeah we like

tick talk and twitch and shit or whatever

and you liked fucking t v and fucking netflix and you liked movies

you know what i mean by

you're just on you're just an inferior level

of libidinal investment

that's what defines your generation an inferior level

of libidinal investment that's why you guys are cringe have no swag and have no style

you think you're above this falking mouck and you're not

you're just fucking bitter boomers

you're no different than a fucking boomer

with a fucking antenna tv yelling at the t v thinking that it's the fucking pinnacle of human progress

sorry to tell you

there is a logic

do all the things

that underlined

everything you treasured and life and all the

things you ascribe to the status of coolness and beauty and legitimacy

all twitch and streaming and all this fucking libidinal shit

as dawn as

extend that logic to its conclusion

you know

like when you were in your twenties

there was a bitterfucking hipster in their thirties spitting venoma

you can't believe me the nger guy has the fucking point out the wisdom of his dynamics

those zoomers and no you're just fucking in your thirties dude and you're fucking bitter about it

and it breaks my fucking heart

i always want the people older than me

be wiser

tead of people who can't cope with the fucking fact that they'ir aging

it's like i'm on the fence be'cause i'm twenty six

so when i was growing up i was hanging out with

that generation

who were the cool kids you know older brothers older

siblings

that my friends have and we're all

they invite us to the parties and shit

so like i'm on the fence but i ultimately am going to side with the fucking zoomers

over these millennials

can't stand the when he was honest

i just hate this arrogance though like oh yeah i'm above it all this is all just a grift bullshit

no you're not do you're not above this libiinum

fucking dynamics at all

you're not

you're just as much determined and beholdened

buy it as anyone else

we're not pure

you're dirty like the rest of us

youre just arrogant about it

smok about

and you know what fuck you know i'm going to say i've been holding back so much and this is the last thing i'm going to say

about cont box

what

here's the thing

he acts like so high and mighty like he's above all of these like

bullshit libidinald hyper libidinalized fucking

manipulated dynam because it's all cia m k ultra manipulating everything right

but then i can easily see

with him

how he is directly determined by the social pressures around him on twitter

i feel like the reason he was even friendly to me in the first place

it is because i kept praising him and saying how much i liked him

but if i said i didn't like him he would dismiss me as a fucking

dirty twitch streamer

right at the off the beginning

so it's like

he's beholden by the same shallow and superficial

libidinal social dynamics

as anyone else

that he judges for

you know i bet you after this he's going to fucking start attacking the shit out of me and all this i don't give a fuck

he's beholden by the same processes that he

ellis claims to have elevated above

because he's he's m

you know crack the code of

the transcendental critique or whatever

transcendental method that elevates him above all of the path

the pathol pathological forces

that the ft that you know veer us into these directions

he's ethical and not pathological except

and it's actually

is hegel's critique of k

believe if you can believe it

kant thinks he overcomes the pathological with the ethical

but what cont act or themmral i should say

but what kant actually does

is create a new outlet an avenue for the pathological

and hegel writes about

the fact that

cont neglects to mention for example when it comes to the categorical imperative

what if you enjoy it

are you really doing it because of the categorical imperative

or are you doing it because you enjoy it

to the

pathology comes back in the form of this disguise

that morality gives for

the pathos

and i think the same thing is going on for compox

same exact thing

he is beholden to the same pathological forces

that he's so willing to point out

motivate the rest of us

and he disguises that with some kind of

fortentsion

to being supremely ethical or moral

but look at the end of the day

it's not personal

still

well it's this it's personal in a sense of being a disappointment to me but

i'm only saying this shit because it's like he came after jackson it's like

i don't know

i just

don't dogpile him and don't go after him and you know

you know attack him or anything it's super cringe

but it's like if you want to know why

we're no longer friends with contobot that's why

i'm not going to say it again

not going to say it again

thank

so ok with that being said we don't really have a lot of time

actually

pint

now we don't have a lot of time

but ium

i want to talk about what's going on with the c pusa because there's quite a bit

at

you can believe it there's quite a bit going on of the c p sa right now

and

wow what a fight

so

joe sims i'm going to read it to you right now speaking of the loo it's a good segue actually into the fucking la roost arrangement paranoia

but joe sims has recently issued a statement

and i read it here

so joe and rosanna came to a club

because of stuff going on in the club

and they passed out these pamphlets and verbally explained infrared

laroue last mop and threat

so i'm going to skip a lot

so they've been grilling people on questions like do you or do you not believe in feminism and lb rights are inherent to the struggle for communism

so in the same way mccarthy asked people

have you or have you ever been a member of the communist party

the communist party is now grilling people with their own mccarthyism telling people do you or do you not believe feminism and l g b rights

are inherent to the struggle for communism

so they said

they said

so joe sims gave a passionate screed at one of these clubs

claiming that infrared

was racist

and they yelled about how the schiller institute had a conference

this weekend that has was there

and that they're controlled by the cia through la rouche who is actually dead

to destroy the cpusa

because what the seep

what the cia is now prioritizing according to dumbfuck joe sims

is

preventing

the c p usa

i'm no longer voting for democrats the cia is terrified of that

if the cpusa stopped voting for democrats

sorry if the c p o s votes for democrats this midterms the cia will be terrified

so the cia is trying to stop this

weddedness the party has to the democratic party

and that's what joe sims is actually trying to sell people

beus he's a fuck and fraud in a piece of shit

actually

a little bird

told me

shot out if you know the c pusa intelligence group that has emerged on twitter

that actually there's i haven't been presented with it yet but when i am going to go fully public with it

apparently there' is concrete evidence

at the cpusa

is being controlled by a handful of corporations

democratic party operatives

and the rest so

wat'ch out for that

but i am no longer convinced

that joe simms

is engaging in his fucking disgusting behavior out of sincerity

i'm one hundred percent convinced

these are feds

they are doing this for an ulterior motive

that they are not making transparent

dog their blatantly

absurd reasoning

they have hidden motives

and those hidden motives

probably relate to the ties that they fucking have to the feds

and notice every time i've gone after the c p s a

a huge campaign starts on twitter against infrared

every single time

when i first fucking when they first announced infrared

that's when all the fucking leftis bots started swarming

there's something that really glows about the c pusa

because every time i touch upon that fucking subject

some weird shit happens

like on twitter

or on social media

where there's like this new campaign of vilification and slander against infrared

every single time it happens every single fucking time i do it

every single fuck and time

and i've started to notice

starty to notice that

bas thank you

i listened to true aanon's latest podcast and they were bashing you and jackson super hard

calling you guys ridiculous for trying to unite working class people

immediate red flag

i don't care

true and ho are retards

and i wiped my ayes with

i literally physically grabed them

crumple them into a piece of paper

and i will wipe my ass with him

put it in the toilet and flush it down

i don't care about what they have to i don't even know who that is

but i'm sure they were glasses am i right

do they wear glasses

i'm sure they do

i'm pretty sure they wear glasses don't they

they do don't they

tell me the tell me i'm wrong

tell me i'm wrong

don't they wear glasses

i don't know what is but i'm sure they were glasses don't they

yup they do

i always got it

i always got it

always got

i always got

always got it

yeah

see

i already know the image of it's like some hipster with glasses right i don't give a big suck

come

suck my fat coat

m

yap

so anyway

what was i saying

yeah so joe sims is like scared shitless and that's what the intelligence committee is telling us they're like

they're really scared because they have no way of countering your c p s a twenty thirty six strategy

and i

the thing is

that strategy

is going to be brought to fruition

with a brand new one which i think jehu is also on board with which is so fucking bass

right

soafucc and bays

that makes me so happy because i'm a fan of j you can' believe it

i've always been a fan

a

so a bunch of people are making c p s a chapter accounts

as the real c pusa

and they're denouncing all the older c psa counts as impersonations

which is true and if you think about it if you grow these accounts

and you get them huge followings

who's the real c p usa

we we control the narrative we control the fucking message

joe sims is shitting his pans over this by the way

we control the fucking narrative and we control the fucking message

let's take back our flucking party

let's take back our fucking party how do we do that

all of those accounts a're rapidly growing

we're going to take back our fucking party

and free it from the clutches of those fucking democrats

we're going to take back our party

we are

they can't stop us there's nothing they can do

all political parties on the internet are downstream from social media

that's why every leftist knows who has is

not everyoney knows who fucking taran fizc is

everything's downstream from social media she's a fucking

parasite

w falkon burrowed her falkonway

into the c pusa leadership because there's a confluence

goals

going to take over c p s a and i'm officially announcing this new project

it's called project

read anon

and it basically means communists in control

but thank you christopher

i just got my m cps in iul card yesterday

there's a rogue faction

that

is in a supposedly in the national committee of the c pusa at the highest levels of leadership

and supposedly these guys

are hardcore stalinists who want to free the c usa from the democrats

they want to work with infrared to fulfill that ends

ardcre stalinius

formed in twenty thirteen

and they're covertly working

to help in forred

and bring back the communist party

and they've got like a few people in the national committee

apparently

amen

this is interesting

oh man it's a rogue faction

patriots

in the c pusa deep state

that are now willing to work with infrared to bring down

and overthrow

the revisionist traitors

that now rule the c pusa

now when did c p s a forfeit the right

to control their own social medias

isn't this

isn't this isn't is like unprincipled and like wrong to do no it's not wrong to do

it's not wrong to do

because they fucking lied so much about me

they lied their liars they slandered

they fucking lied they continue to lie

so all this stuff about honesty should suck a dick

we're taking over

the real c p usa would never be a whore for the fucking democrats

the real c p usa

would never sell out to the democrats

so that's not the real c pusa the real one

you can follow them on twitter

it it be a fat op i don't give a fuck

no it's not no the real fed op is when joe sims tells people to vote democrat

that's the real fet up

we're taken over the c pusa

operation read and on is in motion

patriots in

control of the national committee

in secret

it's happening

it's happened

i wanted to share that with you

it's happened

and this is fully in tandem with the maga communism campaign

we're going to do it

we're going to take back our party

when we take back that party

the maga communism train is going to fully take off and unleaseh

everything is downstream from social media

so if you make the real so c p s a

and so this is the beauty of hyperstitions

this is the beauty

all structuralist french theory delures

make the virtual thing first

the actual will follow

see

cpusa

the projection of what it should be

virtually

will mold it in the right direction

as a hyperstitiion

they can't they're not even on our level dude we're like fucking crazy people

i

we're like nick land we're using the fucking nemogram to take it over

show joe sims the nemogram i bet his head will be spinning

jose sims we are dark magicians

we're like dark sorcerers and shit you're not even our level dude

we read jho

we read jahu joe sims you fucking read

buckn kamala harris or some shit

you're not on our level dude

you watch fucking son you watch fucking

rachel mad hours from shit

we're fucking using lemurian time magic to take over the party

yes the skitzles are rising

yes the skitzles are rising there's nothing they can do

you think rosanna knows about fucking hyperstitions

you think rosanna could read zeno systems dot net

you think rosanna

knows about fucking fang newman or some shit

you think they you think they know anything about that stuff

you think fucking joe sims knows what a lemurian is

no he doesn't

they're nowhere on our level

they're nowhere close to us

you think jay whoe knows about free im sorry f

course he does you ned joe sims knows about jay who

do think joe sims knows about free time

and nothing else

you think he really knows about that shit he doesn't he'd be confused and discompobulated because he's a fed and he's a democrat agent he's got one fucking goal and just a

heard these idiots in the party to voting democrats

you're not they're nowhere near you think aran can go toe to toe with us in a debate she can't

and no when you are level we're using literal time travel to take over the boes thank you matt

we are using time travel to take over the c pusa

this new campaign of creating

real c pusa accounts

to take over the real one it's time travel

and they can't even foresee it

they don't even see it coming because they're stupid boomers

this is yeah this is deep sufi islamic time magic

and they're they have nothing

they can't do shit

were they going to do nothing

joe sims has nothing hey joe sims the mogma movement is coming he calls it the magma movement

because he says like magma

and it's

taken everything it's coming from underground and it's

take it out ya this is the magama movement and let's do hash tag

magma movement

magama movement let's do that

magma communism tell it berg about it too

be it's literal fucking geology

magma communism

bucking joe sims started it and we're finishing it

joe simms is the one who cradd that superstition

and we're finishing it

guys make art don't even make a hashtag just make magma art like do magma

and then put my faces like put like a

pu like pu like a shadow of my face and then magma coming out

and say joe sims we are coming on it

and make that poster someone make that poster

someone make like an infrared magma menacing poster for josephs we are in your party like magma

we're coming from underground and taking everything over

i

anyway guys i want to stream longer

i do

but i can't

i will stream tomorrow

much long like six hour stream ok

anyway guys

there is one thing jo sinms gets right

about why our strategy is going to fail

and

the one thing