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2025-04-18T01:16:52+00:00
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What's going on, man?
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Comrade Thomas.
What's up?
Stephen.
What's up?
M.F.
What's up, bro? O. mf what's up bro or bittal what's up diogenes what's going on all right guys so
i'm going to do two things uh i'm going to start the space for the second thing uh like basically look two things first thing i'm
going to actually talk about twitch one last time and i'm going to just outline the strategy for
what i'm going to be using the twitch for because i thought about it long and hard and i can explain
why but i've come to the conclusion this is the best thing.
And then the second thing is that I'm going to talk about Paul Pot and Cambodia and clarify where we stand on that whole thing as a party.
Because apparently there's confusion.
You know, I already talked to Johnny about it and my view that it was a mistake to just start a conflict over this and start a discursive vector of polarization over that issue.
But I'm going to actually clarify where we stand on that whole thing and what our view is.
But I'll start the space first and then do it, you know? So that's how we're going to actually do that. We're going to start the space first. And then i will uh i will set about doing that i just want to talk to you before
i start the space about twitch and what the plan for twitch is going to be so i basically, I thought very deeply about all the different factions of Twitch and live
stream fails and what's going on on Twitch and the pipelines that are being established
of radicalization and what possible place I could have on Twitch.
And I came to the conclusion that strategically, strategically it is not possible for me to stream
to Twitch, like I stream to kick and grow. I can't pull from any audience there. There's really nothing I could do. The pipelines are all sealed as far as my ability to sit on this desk and do content. Because anything that I from my desk that that i need to do to grow
is going to require me sacrificing the professionalism and integrity that is deserving and is
expected from a uh executive chairman of a party.
But, and I trust me, this is, this decision has been made with a comprehensive mapping of all of the different factions of the Twitch discourse, XQC, Aidan Ross, Hassan Piker,
the Destiny people, the Hitler gamers and the anime lovers and all those Reditors and whatever whatever asman gold hitler gamers whatever they are
and um you know demographically culturally there is no place for our message just streaming there like sitting at a desk there's no way to do it
but there is a way to do it it just involves something much more right so what i'm going to be
doing with the twitch i'm just going to be basically telling you this is that I'm going to be using the infrared platform on Twitch to IRL stream ACP related stuff, meaning I'm going to be traveling the country, chapter to chapter, going to college campuses and schools, and we are going to do
Mr. Beast style, I guess you want to call it that. We're going to be live streaming our good
works and our community service, our labor organizing, and most importantly our student initiatives,
and that's all going to be IRL, and the place I'm going to be doing the IRS is going to be Twitch.
You see, KIC is not a place that rewards good deeds.
It doesn't have automatic discursive significance.
On Twitch, though, it does.
It has automatic discursive significance
for people to talk about and give it attention.
So Twitch is where I'm going to be live streaming and showcasing party activity.
I'm going to be doing that as well to promote and invigorate more party activity in
general.
It's going to, it's going to basically allow me to constantly travel the country to basically meet with chapters and make sure everything is going smoothly on the ground.
And it's also going to promote the party and it's going to create all the right discursive contradictions that we want.
And from the perspective of the demographics that we're targeting,
this is the move because basically when you think about it,
people don't want to see...
When I am coming from such a radically different place such a radically different
perspective nobody i think is really interested in me just sitting on my desk talking and gibbering
people want to see like what I'm about and my
results and what I stand for in
practice. They want to actually
see it first
and then that gives
justification for whatever discourse
that I'm introducing. That's especially
true for some of the newer generations
like that just don't have any patience for another Hassan Piker to sit on their fucking desk
in a mansion and gibber about their beliefs and ideals without actually walking the walk.
So a lot of thought has been put into this,
and basically that is...
It's going to be IRL streams
that Twitch is going to be used for.
And then I might use it if I ever have to go respond to Hassan or do anything on that front,
but basically exclusively speaking, it's just going to be for the IRS.
And that was the decision I came to.
I was kind of feeling a little down, and I was like, Twitch sucks.
I don't even know, like, there's nothing i could even do there uh because it's like i'm literally a space alien who comes from a different
world and then i was like actually there is something i could do it's just actually show what
our party is doing
and make that exciting and interesting
and make that add
humor to it, add and make it
engaging, make it fascinating,
make it peak people's interest.
And I think that's very possible.
I think it's very, very doable.
It's going to come from more,
it's going to require as well
a lot more
this is more party business
and in our May events
I'll be talking to you guys in person about this.
I know not everyone is coming to the May event, but for those that I think at least one person from each chapter is, and so you'll be able to relay back home what I tell you and communicate to you. But basically, we're going to be collaborating with chapters to produce content
that is engaging, that is stimulating,
simultaneously does
good locally, but also does good
for the overall
message of the party, right?
And it's going to require more intense collaboration on that front.
It is something I'm going to have to run by the Central Committee,
which is I'm telling you this now as far as just to justify why I'm not going to be
using the Twitch actively. That's the only reason I'm telling you about this. I'm not telling you
this because it's like for certain, because the central committee is going to form an early May,
and that's when we're going to be talking about it, debating it and discussing and whatever. But if they approve this initiative...
I don't know what the fuck...
That is. I don't know what the fuck that is.
I don't know what that is.
I'm using a new stream labs
thing that's
integrating the
all the different
Twitch and kick
and I guess it's giving me
notification.
I don't know what's going on.
But,
um,
you know, I wonder if I could accept donations on stream labs.
Because if I can, you know, that would be pretty lit if they unband me and I can finally accept donations again uh tipping
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Australia Stanley what's up?
Am I going to be able to accept donations on stream labs?
Hold on.
All right.
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ABC, what's up, man?
Hey, I don't mean to bug you about this, but if you're there, ABC, could you check the messages about that song and just let me know what your availability is?
By the way, you guys don't know ABC.
This is kind of crazy This notification stuff
But ABC is the guy
Who is behind our songs
For our trailer
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it's actually incredible
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for the when we launched the party
he created the song
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tramp by the way we're going to add lyrics to that soon
eventually I need to turn this off this tramp, tramp, tramp. By the way, we're going to add lyrics to that soon eventually.
I need to turn this off, this notification off.
I don't know how to fucking do that.
Alert box. I guess that's it. Just shut it off.
Yeah, so he was behind that, and he's so good at what he does we want him to um
we want him to you don't bro you don't know you definitely don't owe me bro you definitely want him to uh if he can if you can we would love for you to to do another one
because he's it's just a talent that's so rare um and he did it very very well very well executed i don't know if you use a i
well now if that helps at all but if it may be but you you have the skills and know how it's
very good um so let me start the skills and know how it's very good.
So let me start the space and start talking about Cambodia. I also need a co-host.
I need a co-host as well.
I'm going to share the link for the for the space
right here
Discord
All right
All right.
So yeah, I'm going to talk about Cambodia. Kaiser, just wait. i'm going to talk about cambodia uh kaisar just wait i'm going to talk about
cambodia first and i'm going to be doing that in the spaces in case anyone wants to chime in
and officially late arrests all the cambodia discourse and. So basically, guys, I'm going to just tell it to you this way. If you read the American Communist Party Constitution and our Declaration, we espouse a unified tendency of Marxism-Leninism.
And there are notable differences between the unified tendency of Marxism-Leninism versus Marxism-Leninism, Maoism, as synthesized by Gonzalo or as synthesized by the New People's Party in the Philippines.
We have our own kind of synthesis called the Unified Tendency, which basically amounts to this.
We affirm Chinese anti-revisionism, and we affirm Mao Zetong thought,
and we affirm the critique of Soviet revisionism.
We also affirm
Deng Xiaoping thought and Jijun Ping thought,
but one thing that makes us stand apart
is that we still uphold China's critique
of Soviet revisionism.
But in contrast to so-called Maoists, according to the unified tendency, the struggle against revisionism should have always and should be regarded as a secondary contradiction within the context of proletarian dictatorships and socialist states. So, just because some socialist countries go down the revisionist path does not negate the objectivity of proletarian dictatorships,
nor does it erase
the legitimacy and credibility
of socialist construction
entirely.
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Goddorfis, what's up?
So, for example, all of the Soviet Union itself example all of the uh the soviet union itself and all of the
soviet aligned countries were and still are uh so legitimate socialist countries with
legitimate proletarian dictatorships and the the problem of revisionism is an internal matter.
It's a principally internal matter. And if we have any critique to contribute to the phenomena of
revisionism, it is not for the purpose of attacking these countries. It's not for the purpose of
adding to the besieging. It is rather as a cautionary warning that we do not want to see them
collapse and maybe we don't do this by the way as a party but
i'm just saying even hypothetically that's where we're coming from the ins because mao's thinking
did not fully clarify the question of where the principled Marxist-Leninist stance actually stands
on the objectivity of proletarian dictatorships and socialist states. It didn't actually
clarify that fully. Only when the Warsaw Pact started to go down this path of
dismantling socialism, did the Chinese start writing them letters under Deng saying, hey, listen, we've had outstanding
differences with you,
but you're taking it too far.
Like, this is not what we meant.
We don't think you should dismantle wholesale
and destroy socialism in general.
They didn't want the Soviet Union to collapse.
Mao and the Chinese wanted
some kind of anti-revisionist
thing to happen within the
Soviet Union, but they didn't
actually conceive of
the destruction of the whole thing
wholesale, right? China, obviously, of the destruction of the whole thing wholesale right china obviously had to defend itself and
make all the necessary choices to defend its sovereignty and its territorial integrity it was being besieged by the forces of revisionism,
that we're trying to undermine it and even collaborate with America against it. We fully respect
and understand the Chinese position, but the Chinese could not, they didn't have the energy or the resources at that time to commit to the principle of building an international world socialist block and take responsibility for that. So China could not save the Soviet Union. It couldn't save the Warsaw Pact.
It could not take responsibility for that world socialist geopolitical bloc, right? So there's a lot of nuance when it comes to that.
And, and we uphold, according to our party's constitution, Vietnam is a legitimate socialist
country and a legitimate proletarian dictatorship.
And we're very happy to see more cooperation between socialist countries.
And by no means are we interested in facilitating any kind of division?
Gaddafus, what's going on, man?
So that is,
wow, sleeper cell with the 10.
Thank you so much.
So
let me further clarify our stance
on the question of
Cambodia, specifically, and Pol Pot.
So there have been a lot of memes in the history of the infrared community before the creation of the party.
And these have not always been serious. They have not always been directly some kind of formal communication or whatever that outlines a principled party organization stance.
And I'm not even doing that here.
I'm just kind of, I want to maturely and professionally
communicate the actual kernel of truth behind that view, okay? Which goes as follows.
The revolution in Cambodia, which was indeed a social revolution absolutely corresponded to horrific circumstances of a u.s.
bombing a relentless u.s. bombing of campuchia that was going on that was genocidal in nature as well as a huge degree of social chaos. And definitely, definitely,
Amila with the 10, thank you so much. Definitely, key word here, there were many, many social horrors and atrocities that happened during that
revolutionary experience, which got out of control in many kinds of different ways.
And nobody should be out here denying that or or overlooking that that fact all we have ever wanted to do is communicate the following nuance and the whole thing is a tragedy in retrospect it was a tragedy because the conflict with Vietnam that happened between
Cambodia, Vietnam, and then China, this led the Cambodian revolution to go down a path of not being able to actually have any independent revolutionary principle.
And yes, the Kimmer Rouge ended up just being on the payroll of America
and serving America's geopolitical interests,
losing any kind of original revolutionary sense of principle.
And then, you know, over time, it was defeated, but then the Kimmer Rouge became involved
in criminal organization and so on and so on.
So it was an extreme tragedy what happened.
It wasn't something you should just not have nuance in understanding what happened.
All I or this community, the only thing that we've ever had,
back from the road with the five, thank you so much,
the only distinguishing position we've had is we reject the lack of nuance
and we reject the black and white mischaracterization of that history,
according to which there was no Cambodian revolution. It was all CIA from the very beginning,
and Vietnam came as the savior to save and liberate Cambodia.
See, that is what
we reject.
We don't accept that one-sided
narrative. We also recognize
that the Cambodian revolution
did, this is why it was
tragic, and I've talked about this before, it did speak to a real
and legitimate antagonism and inequality between the urban centers and the rural periphery,
and it did manage to tap into an immense and explosive revolutionary
energy that did exist in the countryside that did speak to a genuine revolutionary grievance
and a new scale and degree of mobilization it ended in tragedy because it was not able to be articulated
in a proper scientific manner, and it immediately fell victim to the immediacy of the fanatical
revolutionary consciousness, which led to a profound social tragedy.
Again, in the midst of an unprecedented scale and campaign of U.S. bombings, where the wholesale
destruction and extermination was happening in the background, right, already.
So it was a profound social tragedy, and it culminated and it ended in tragedy, and that's why it failed.
I have always just insisted upon having an awareness that there was an original, authentic,
revolutionary beginning there, that Vietnamese revisionism and Soviet-aligned revisionism was unable to speak to in any capacity.
There was something awakened among the Cambodian masses that was not being articulated by Soviet-aligned
revisionism.
But oftentimes
people ignore what I've actually said,
right?
The direct conflict that it
unleashed
between various demographics that it unleashed between
various demographics and the violence,
the direct physical violence
at a crazy scale.
I mean, that was a sign
of a profound, aborted
immaturity of that revolution and what do i say i say
between mouse cultural revolution in between what happened in cambodia happened and it was a
profound tragedy and the the matured development of the same revolutionary principle happened in Iran when the Iranian
revolution was largely bloodless but it did correspond to a similar awakening of this peripheral, rural masses that were considered ignorant and backward, rising up against arrogant, institutional, urban elites.
And that is an example of the matured revolutionary principle that is at play here, right?
It should not correspond to direct physical violence.
It should not correspond to social wars of extermination.
It should correspond rather to the elevation politically of a principle that empowers the rural and peripheral masses at the expense of arrogant urban elites.
Dream of Jupiter.
Thank you so much for the five.
So there's so much nuance there compared to, and why we should be a little more mature now.
I'm not saying all the jokes disappear. I'm not saying all the memes disappear. I'm just saying there's no real point in going on X and being reckless about how we communicate our position on this, which is full of nuance, because it serves no purpose whatsoever other than to make us appear fringe and ostracize us, because a lot of people just aren't educated about that history. They're not educated about the fact that so many of the atrocities that are
attributed to the Kimmer Rouge were actually the result of the U.S. bombing. And they were just
attributed to Paul Pot, but it was actually the U.S. bombing, right? And people don't know the nuances.
People don't understand this requires knowledge and education and study,
and you should not just recklessly punish people for not being exposed to that
because most people don't know these facts. If anything, you should
just try to educate people better about it, right? And you should also not be going out of your way
to be promoting division between fraternal socialist nations today
we uphold the legitimacy of vietnamese socialism
and yeah volkwold is right there are also a lot of infiltrators that's very true
and with that came a profound degree of a of a
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Wow, that is the sketchiest
link in the world
what the fuck i hope no one clicked that
yeah what a disgusting fuck freak
anyway um yeah we need to freak. Anyway,
um,
yeah,
we need to disable links.
If mods can disable links,
if you know how,
just disable them entirely.
Disable them entirely. Yeah, we should just disable them,
Anyway,
Be careful, guys, never click a link mv what's up
in any case um so yeah that this is our view on on the the whole thing about the vietnam
the cambodian revolution china's position on the matter.
There should be no room for any kind of take that lacks nuance. That's our view.
We just don't believe in having a one-sided view. We believe in fully investigating the facts and not taking at face value
the claims, all of the claims that are made. While there definitely were atrocities and horrible
things that happened, just like in the case of Mao and Stalin and other examples of revolutionary
upheaval. A lot of them are definitely made with the malicious intent of slandering, communism
in general, and again, atrocities that are committed by the U.S. bombings are often attributed to the Kimmer Rouge, right?
So this is our view on the matter.
Revolutions are not necessarily pleasant things, okay?
That is a principle of unleashing total social chaos.
All revolutions unleash extreme forces of chaos and they they unleash these these energies
within the socius that everything is fucking on that like everything is up in the air and they are not pleasant events and it requires a
disciplined effective and most importantly scientific revolutionary leadership to reign in these
forces of destruction and put them to creative and principled use. That did not
happen in Cambodia because of the profound chaos of the U.S. bombings, because of the lack of scientific clarity about the real forces underlying that revolution, and it ended in tragedy. That is our view on it, basically. That is our view. There was an insufficient level of scientific leadership and there was also circumstances and a background of a huge atrocity of u.s bombings so that is my view.
That's not the official party line, because remember, the Kimmer Rouge was unsuccessful, and it no longer exists.
So our party has no stance on the Kimmer Rouge and Paul Pot, which don't exist anymore. But our party does have a stance on Vietnam, which does still exist, and we uphold Vietnam as a legitimate and credible and real example of socialism and the proletarian dictatorship.
So that's our view.
We just emphasize the need for nuance and lack of emotions when studying revolutionary periods in history and not being swept up and overtaken by these immense volumes of propaganda. That's it. That's really just what I say, you know, what I'm saying as infrared in a professional and mature and unironic way without the memes, right?
I would say something the same with Gonzalo.
You know, the shining path committed horrible atrocities, which were documented and are absolutely worthy of condemnation,
and there's no defending those. But to say they weren't onto something would also be one-sided.
To say that they weren't tapping into a unique, social, civilizational, and demographic
reality in Peru that all the established political forces failed to tap into would also be profoundly one-sided. They did manage to discover
something. They just didn't do it in the correct way in terms of applying their insights.
And this is the problem with revolutionary praxis.
In revolutionary praxis, there is a lot of room for making mistakes and making errors.
And errors and mistakes, revolution is nothing to toy with.
So when you make a mistake and you make an error,
it can end in profound fucking tragedy.
Like, revolutionary praxis is similar to, like,
experimenting with explosives.
One wrong fucking move,
and it can all blow up and be really bad, right?
That's why our American Communist Party has this principle of decentralization so that we could absorb mistakes and not allow a conceit to rise to the level of a prescription, an absolute prescription, that fucks the whole thing up.
We want room for people to fail and make mistakes so we can learn from them rather than taking drastic action on the basis of an unproven conceit, you know?
So that's kind of where we stand on that, you know?
We also look, when it comes to the Mao the the the the the mawis in the philippines again we're not one-sided with respect to that either regardless of the contemporary
circumstances and situation clearly the history the cursory glance at the history there does reveal genuine experience with revolutionary praxis.
Now, what has that become today, and now there's a lot of room for debate,
but at least historically, there's no overlooking that and dismissing it wholesale.
So that's what I would like to communicate, you know, basically.
Finally. Now I'll bring on everyone in order. We need someone to co-host. If anyone can co-host, we definitely need a co-host to be able to bring people up that I cannot see.
There's only three people are requesting.
Let me bring on Kaisarian.
Karsarian.
Go ahead.
Good evening, Mr. Chairman.
How are you, sir?
Good.
I'm fine.
How are you?
Very well.
I'm pleased to have this opportunity.
I've been wanting to speak to you for years,
and I'm engaging in a very good faith discussion with you.
I don't know how much we ultimately agree on things,
but I can tell you, I respect you as a committed collectivist and someone who is
unafraid to buck the system. I appreciate that very much. Something that I don't entirely understand,
and perhaps you can help me. Communism has, by which I mean, anything from classical Marxism to Maoism, the whole spectrum of it,
is known to not be particularly pro-religion in the manner that I don't can ever think of a communist party,
though perhaps you can, that has received the endorsement of a religious movement or the church,
if you will, outright. Yet the American Communist Party is very tolerant of religion from a pluralistic point of view insofar as you allow people to have it, or at least your membership is allowed to have it, in their privacy to whatever their conviction may be.
I understand that you personally are a Muslim. Is that correct?
Yeah, I would
say so, but
I don't necessarily
have a problem with people
deciding to call me
something else. It's very
private for me, so it's not else it's it's very private for me so it's not my my my how it's
presented in public it doesn't matter to me much i see are you um are you bothered by public
displays of religious conviction among your membership?
No.
Okay.
So I am a, I'm a Platonist.
I assume you're fairly abundantly familiar with Platonism?
Um,
yeah, I will say this.
While on a personal level, I don't have a problem with anyone identifying with whatever, you know, creed they so deigned to.
But within our party, there are only traditionally established religions that have
roots in historically constituted peoples that exist now are given like a sacred status in terms of we will not blaspheme, we will not offend, we will not cross any boundaries.
But when it comes to something like Platonism, we would not recognize that as a historically legitimate religious tradition
and as such
the bylaws
within our party with respect to
offending the beliefs of Platinus for example
would not be covered
understood with you and this for example would not be covered understood
would you
and this isn't really where I meant to go
but since you say that
would you
be intolerant
of platonic thought
no but I think
we would not give it we would not give it the treatment of a special treatment of a religious belief.
Because for us, we don't want to debate religious beliefs within the party.
We want to respect them.
Whereas philosophy is open, completely open to debate and discussion and whatever.
Of course. Of course. And Platonism, of course, is not a religion, though of course late Platonism
certainly took on certain religious characteristics and then I won't go down that rabbit hole.
And that's understood completely.
And therefore, I imagine you can't help but notice the overlap, at least the mechanics of Marxism and Platonism.
Do you concur or should I expound upon that?
No, it's actually very clear to me that definitely, I would even go so far as to say, is I think Platonism is an inceptual principle of Western philosophy,
and I think Marxism,
uh, in many ways, attempts to rediscover that principle in a really different way,
a materialistic way,
but nonetheless, the, the platonic structure in terms of the acknowledgement of the
acknowledgement of the fact that, you know, there is a unifying and concrete principle of existence
definitely is shared with Marxism.
But I think the similarities start to break down in the detail.
Yeah, so
the objectives seem to be
different. Looking at reading
and I will confess, the
vast majority of
communist literature that I have read
has largely been the little communist
manifesto, which you can knock out in 40 minutes.
On the other hand, I'm very well read in Plainism, or at least I would consider as such.
And reading the conclusions that Marx comes to insofar, at least in the Communist Manifesto, as to how to fix the elements of society, very strongly, in my opinion, seem to draw from Plato's Republic.
We have a ton of things in common, which is why it puzzles me how some Platonists
want to strad the line with fascism, because fascists so very frustrate me. They like to dress
up like us traditionalists, but they go on acting like liberals. They want this, at least in America, for instance,
they want this all-white libertarianism,
and it's also very empty. It doesn't serve either
liberalism or traditionalism.
I agree. I also think that,
I think that the association between Platinism and fascism is also unjustified,
because the fascist principle of collective existence does not recognize collective existence as an independent principle.
In fascism, it's actually the individual that's glorified, and the collective is regarded as a kind of confederation of individual wills. This is what the fascist is. So in a way, it's kind of more aristotelian if you think about it whereas
platonism insists upon a singular indivisible um antecedent collective existence which is not
reducible to the sum of its parts, and therefore it's at least more
proximate toward the communist view than the fascist one.
Certainly.
Fascists are philosophically satanic.
And what I mean by that is they believe in the glorification of the individual.
The Nietzsche and Superman, they want everyone to manifest this godness unto themselves, and therefore
their great collective, for all the rhetoric about race and nation and everything else, they really want this collection of alpha wolves.
And if you fall short of that, then you deserve to get eaten, because that's Darwinism.
Of course, when Jews eat them in their perception, When other people wrong them,
whoever the bad guy group is,
that's unfair. That's unfair
play. But whenever they do it to other
people, that's completely within the laws of nature.
It's also very hypocritical.
But doing just the direction
I mean to, that we concur very strongly about the collective
spirit of the nation, however you define the nation. If you define it broadly as the collection
of all sapient beings for which we
can recognize as all of humanity until
we start discovering aliens
and that there is
a universal morality
there is an absolute
right and wrong
and definitely we start to,
at least I do,
a communist will of course concur.
The very crude way
in which everyone is only ever quantified
anymore by their material possessions
is very degenerate.
This is a really interesting conversation, and I hate to wrap it up, but I do want to conclude this, but I'll conclude it on a note just for the audience's sake.
You will find throughout history very curious and interesting forms of platonic and neoplatonic revolutionary movements in the pre-modern era, where you have
these revolutionary movements that are motivated and guided by ostensibly
Platonist principles. So it's really interesting, actually, how in history, sometimes the
Platinist principles correspond to a new kind of proto-communist
sense of revolutionary
solidarity
to
humble elites and
rebel against
ruling orders and so on and so on.
Mr. Chairman, I was just getting to the part where we could actually debate.
I only wanted to frame it.
Well, I think this kind of debate is going to take up the entire time of the space.
So we should set aside
maybe Sunday or Tuesday
when I go live if you want to have
a more in-depth philosophical debate, but
not for the confront the chairman's space.
Certainly. My apologies.
When Sunday
can I expect?
If you go
in the Discord,
in our Discord
and you go into
the show requests
channel,
just,
I usually go
live at 9 p.m.
Eastern,
Sundays,
Tuesdays, and Thursdays, Thursday to confront the chairman spaces, and
that would be a good time to do it.
Excellent. Thank you so much
for your time, Mr. Chairman. I look forward to
our next conversation. Yep, looking forward
to it.
So look forward to our next conversation. Yep, looking forward to it. So, Kayla, do you want to bring on...
So there are two other requests.
One kind of looks like a bot account,
and then the other one is Rambly,
who might want to talk about too
yeah i see the the the the the bot i'm going to bring on the bot because i'm interested
and what that could pause uh hello hello Hello?
Hello?
Hello?
Hello!
Crypto Web, unmute your mic now or your band.
Yeah, you fucking AI
fucking bot getting so sophisticated.
What a crazy thing.
All right, let's bring up Rambly, the autistic.
How many holes has?
Oh, sorry, was that supposed to you?
My bad.
Oh, hello.
Yeah.
What's going on um there's one thing i do want to ask uh-huh do you know about infrared like there's an infrared supporter out there with the
Pokemon profile pick.
Do you know about him?
No.
Yeah, he
supports a furry.
But anyways, I think
you already know what I want
to ask
um
okay yeah but the thing is
he supports a furry pedophile
I don't know if you know about him
but anyways
here's what I want to ask
your alt
is it not? No it's not
are you sure about that? It's not my alt are you not? No it's not. Are you sure about that?
It's not my alt. Are you sure?
It's not my alt. Are you sure
Rambly? I'm sure about
it. I hope you're sure about it because if
I'm sure about it. I hope you
are. I am sure
about it. How much you want to bet?
My entire life savings.
That's not my own.
Will you actually complete your entire life savings?
Yes.
How much is that?
I'm not funny enough.
I'm going to have our legal department send you a document where you put in writing that you will commit your entire life savings.
That you have nothing to do with that alt?
I have nothing to do with that alt i have nothing to do with that account okay no i don't know our legal department is going to send you a document so you we we formally
commit to the agreement that if we can prove that it's yours, that you
will give us your entire life savings.
Okay, I guess.
Are you going to stand by and be ready for that?
Yeah, I'll stand by it.
Okay, the second question.
How many holes do women
have below the belt how many holes do you know what the sonic song blue hedge how many holes has how many holes come on don't
how many holes come on
how many vaccines does it take to cure autism
no how many holes do women have below the belt
come on keep it answer the question
how many vaccine holes do you have all over how many vaccine
holes do you have
all over how many holes
how many holes
are you actually
going to push anti-pox propaganda
come on how many holes
do women have below the belt
you know and then How many holes do women have below the belt? You know, an entire extinct species got revived, and now, and you can't even answer this question.
How many holes?
They call me Sonic, because i am done how many holes come on has how many holes do women have below the belt answer the question, dude.
I guess he left.
I guess he just gave up.
I guess he just gave up.
He's like,
all right, I just quit.
This is so stupid.
All right.
Anyway,
is there anyone else requesting? Kayla, is there anyone else requesting
uh something about...
ACP! What's up?
Did the space crash? No way.
No way.
Uh-oh.
Uh... Guys, thumbs up if you could still hear me in the space
Okay, it's just Kayla
Yeah, I'm good
Uh, I'm good.
I need someone to help me co-host this.
Let me find people that typically are speaking in spaces that are from our community.
Infrared.
Oh, this is the alt.
Yeah. Yeah, this person
is the
a literal alt
of Rambley
um
maybe they gave their account
we basically have proof of it
but they basically gave their account
maybe to someone else
is why they're requesting isn't it interesting i accuse them of that and then they go into
their group chat to be like no no no this is our we're gonna the fact that you're now requesting
just proves it okay what coincidentally uh ESK what's up what's up let's see the the magic trick of a
completely different person go ahead go ahead go ahead speak go ahead and speak
yeah can't
yeah can't
cat got your tongue I guess
what a hilarious prank what a hilarious Yeah, can't I cat got your tongue, I guess.
What a hilarious prank.
What a hilarious prank. Come on, Rambley, what's what's up with it?
Cat got your tongue?
Yeah. yeah good thing you didn't sign that document you know like what the hell anyway... Let's see.
CryptoWeb is back.
I hope crypto web has something to say this time.
Go ahead, CryptoWeb.
CryptoWeb, go ahead. web How are you? Good. How are you?
I'm good.
Where are you coming out? Where are you based in, sir?
I'm from Nigeria.
Algeria.
Yeah.
All right. And what brings you to the confronted chairman's pace today, sir?
I'm listening for...
What?
Take to what?
What? What? Takeo.
What?
Okay, they left.
I don't know what the fuck that was.
But it definitely... Oh, he said Nigeria.
Okay, great.
Perfect.
Excellent.
I mean, that's what we're looking for when it comes to crypto
for our party.
We're looking for Nigerian crypto business opportunities.
For sure, you know, that's definitely the most important thing for a confronted chairman space.
Hispanic American Studies. Hi. What's up?
Hello?
Hello?
Yeah.
Can you hear me?
Yep.
Hi. Yeah. Hi. Has, uh, you know, I watched a video recently where you talk about how, um, Hispanic shouldn't be forced to choose between their indigenous and their Spanish identity do you remember that um may not really but it's it's fine um i i thought that was great and i'm glad to hear it and um i wanted to ask
regarding the united states in a post-revolutionary situation.
Do you understand or do you conceive of the U.S. as basically becoming another country in the world or is it a more of a socialist empire strategy um it would be a country but it would not be a nation state.
Jupiter, what's up?
What does that mean?
Well, it would be a big country, but it would not be... It would be a big country of multiple peoples, but it would not be a nation state. It would not be an empire in the sense of
occupation force or an imperial hegemon that oppresses and occupies people. would be a shared uh socialist country like the uss are
so perhaps you could say an empire in the classical sense as in the you know pre-capitalist sense
um yeah well yeah but you know if you say that people will go oh you want America to be an empire and it's a bad thing
optically because the US right now
there's US imperialism that exists now, you know,
and using
words like that
would be a recipe
for inviting people
to mischaracterize your position.
Yeah, yeah, I see that i see the the word empire is totally uh seems problematic um but you know
the soviet union in a in a classical sense in a classical sort of, you know, political theory sense.
Yeah, I know. I know. I know exactly what you mean. But such is the nature of using language in a bad faith you know environment of information warfare
you could mean one thing but people will misrepresent what you mean because the word can have
another association which you're which is not your intention to convey right right yeah i i see that it's just you know something i wrestle with a lot
in terms of you know thinking about what is it that the united states as as an empire in the
classical sense right you know will sort of project onto the world in a in an
affirmative universalist manner right in terms of like i think i think that um i don't think that a soviet would be a global empire or a global polity. It would be an American one, specifically the current territory of the United States and Canada, and hopefully a merger with Mexico on an equal basis between different revolutionary dynasties.
Mexico has its own revolutionary tradition.
If there could be a merger between the two, that would be great great but it would not be one absorbing the other
in that case okay that's that's interesting um so why why stop at mexico and why not pan-americanism
well i'm i'm not necessarily, I'm not necessarily stopping at anything, but it's, what imposes borders are different levels of historical
development and revolutionary political development
and it's not my interest that
forceful exporting of the revolution
would occur
so the Soviet Union had neighbors and would occur.
So the Soviet Union had neighbors, and it did not seek to forcefully export its revolutionary empire in all directions.
But, you know, I'm sure that it would be a tremendous influence and boon to revolutionary forces abroad if the United States turned red, you know, including in
Central America and South America and so on.
So what it takes to develop and cultivate independent political authorities.
That's really what it is, you know.
There are different centers and polarities.
There's a center within Mexico.
There's a center within North America.
There's a center in South America, you know.
It's all about where the center of power would be, you know.
And the kind of multilateral framework framework you would not have a single center
so would it be in the united states's interest to have its center its, um, pivot towards the southwest and favor a more,
you know, bi-cultural, bilingual integration with the Hispanic world.
Such things can't really be
planned for in advance.
Because
there is also the bridge to
Eurasia in the north,
you know, which would probably
be very decisive and important. i think we're getting ahead of
ourselves as well because it's it's all about the circumstances of a revolution revolutionary
situation and war that would determine things like that not what we can envision here and now.
Yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's totally fair. But considering the fact that, you know,
um, Mexico will probably, you know, when shit hits the fan, um, as you have said in some, you know, shit hits the fan
as you have said in some
you know one of your streams you said
if shit hits the fan you're going to escape to
Mexico right because most likely
most likely Mexico is going to be on our
side it's definitely not going to be Canada so territorially
speaking yeah I think Canada I think that's possible remember
there are a class enemies within Mexico as well there are counter-revolutionary
forces within Mexico the the great boon as far as the Mexican side of things, has been Morena. That has been a great thing. That has been a movement that has empowered the left-wing forces within Mexico, but it can't be taken for granted you know the fourth
uh fourth revolutionary moment as they put it right right i mean i have my critiques of
of morena but but yeah i, it is an interesting development, and I think it's certainly interesting that you make that comparison between the sort of Eurasian outreach and
the Pan American outreach, right?
These would be two different
projects that perhaps don't
necessarily have to contradict each other.
Right. Well, in any case,
thank you for the question.
I think we're going to have to wrap it up there,
unfortunately. But yeah, so let's bring on Ultra Blue. What's going on, Rambly? family.
You want me on?
Yeah, didn't you call yourself a pedophile earlier?
No.
Yeah, you said that
the account that you were
presenting as was some kind of furry
and they followed a pedophile.
That was red.
That was red.
I'm blue. I'm completely
different.
Oh, but you're... Okay, so it's like a multiple personality disorder thing, like from the movie split.
Or is it like severance where this is the any or the outer?
Or maybe just accept the fact that we're
different people
or maybe it's like severance where there's like
inies and outies and there's like different personalities
we're different people
anyways
are you going to talk about
vaginas again?
It's an anatomy
question. How many holes
do women have below the belt?
Are you transgender?
No.
Why do you hate trans people?
I don't hate trans people.
Are you sure? Say you quit. I don't hate trans people. Are you sure?
Say you quit?
I don't.
I just...
There's something a little bit transphobic about your fixation.
It's just...
It's an anatomy question, dude.
Define women for me.
Why don't you do that?
Someone who identifies as a woman.
So it seems like you're making a lot of anatomical infections.
You're not going to run away from this
lower that
I'm not here
don't run from the question rambly
because I think I've cornered you a little bit here
you know you come on every Thursday asking
this question about
women, so how do you define that
according to you? And
what makes your definition
according to you not transphobic? Go ahead,
Rambley. Go ahead.
I'm blue. Yeah, but you're transphobic, correct?
How do you explain to your trans allies
how you're throwing them under the bus like this?
I'm not. I'm not throwing them under the bus.
It's an anatomy question.
We're all confused. Just answer.
What about trans?
Otherwise?
Well, your question cannot be answered because
according to your definition of what a woman is,
even you could be a woman.
No, I'm a dude because I identify as a dude.
What if you identified as a woman?
I don't because...
What stops you from doing that?
What stops you from it?
I don't have gender destroyer.
What if you did?
What would you do?
I get surgery for it, but I don't.
I know I don't.
So you have to get surgery for it to
yeah you just got completely destroyed rambly you just got
destroyed rambly you just got destroyed all right you're transphobic clearly
you're trying to you're a biological essentialist, apparently,
because you're asking a question about gender identity
and tying it to biological anatomy,
which is so transphobic,
Rambly. It's like your J.K. Rolling.
What a terrible
person. That guy's such a fascist piece of shit.
Wow.
Wow.
Slicker, what's up, man?
And yeah, I'm unbanned.
I'm unbanned, but I don't think I'm going to be going back, at least in the old way, because they take 50% of your money and they
you know what's the point
hello charm hole
it was a old friend
so I hear you're a really big fan of me
now
now I've always been a big fan of me now.
Now I've always been a big fan of you.
I've always appreciated. Well, I check my DMs quite often and you're always telling me to kill myself and all
these things.
Some,
we do some light trolling.
I hope you enjoy the memes.
So what's going on?
Well, first and foremost, I want to say congratulations on your unbanning of Twitch.
Thanks.
Yeah, it's pretty great.
You'll finally be able to talk to all the nerds like Rambly.
There's going to be a lot more Ramblies soon if you start streaming again.
So good luck with that.
But yeah, I just wanted to say a few things, if that's all right, especially, you know, concerning the ACP.
First off, I think you've got some bad groups, bad people in your Discord, your general area.
Are these the people
that just so happen to you, you have
gotten into interpersonal, parisocial
conflicts with?
Well, if you just look at the data, right?
From Danny Shaw down, there's been
quite a few people, actually. Danny Shaw has there's been quite a few people
actually Danny Shaw has not never been
IGG that guy was always
not an IGG guy he came from
from
east to more
traveling the world
well I remember traveling the world well
I remember seeing him in Michigan
and I remember talking
there was no yeah but he wasn't there as IGG
he was brought in by people who
trusted him.
And he,
um,
he, you know,
he was in the driveway as during that time.
That's when it happened.
Right.
Yeah.
Well,
you seem to be much more,
uh,
a threat to your organization
than I ever have been
as a working, as an actual working
American American-
I'm a good. We were pissed
about it, but we've
ever, no one's holding a grudge, right?
It's just that you've sent some really
crazy messages to me
on X which are pretty crazy
so it's just some edgy shit man because I'm bored
and I'm trying to get your ear dude I just want to get back in
because I think I can be helpful
see you're laughing but right Charmole you're not going to be a lot because I think I can be helpful.
See, you're laughing, but... All right, Charmole, you're not going to be allowed in the party after the shit you said to me, right?
I'm just going to tell you straight up.
It's not happening.
Well, I'm going to tell you straight up that you're the most...
You are actually legitimately autistic.
Like, actually. I've seen how you're in a public space. All right. Like, actually.
I've seen how you have in a public space.
All right.
That's fine.
I could be autistic.
But the problem,
and I'm going to make this criticism of you.
And if you're truly,
truly a candidate for our movement,
you will take this to heart and show improvement and then we'll talk about it
but you have a problem of fucking not taking yourself seriously to such a point where you do crazy
schizo shit like go in my DMs
and tell me to literally kill myself
and call me the N-word, right?
I'm not worried about me
because I don't care. I'm worried about how you would
react to differences
and problems
and all these other things. You have to sort it out and become upstanding and fix yourself. And everyone gets a chance. And I'm giving you that chance. Prove over a long-term period that you can be a normal person.
And if you genuinely want to join this movement,
and you're heart of hearts and you're sincere about it,
you have to show some improvement. You have to show...
I just... You have to do some effort
By not messaging you for like two years
No you messes me last week
Dude I'm literally going to check my fucking DMs right now
Because I could have sworn
Yeah
I got a message from you like a fucking week ago
Let's see what it said.
Yeah, no, I'll look at it too.
I know what it said.
Charmhole.
You should share the video.
I think you're, it's an anime, it's an anime guy with a chainsaw.
Oh no, it's a guy who's handing a gun outside of the, um, an anime guy with a chainsaw oh no it's a guy who's
handing a gun outside of the
um an anime guy who's handing
a gun that's outside of the
jpeg
and it goes
and his speech pulls
I think you're a F word,
because I'm professional,
I can't say that now,
and you should kill yourself,
use this,
and he's handing me the gun.
So this is the problem.
It's a funny meme
that you should share
against people you don't like.
Well, that's just not the type of material level to join our movement.
It's just not, we can't have that.
You know, you sent me another slur-laden message with just the, the the it's literally the
exodia of slurs
that you sent right before that
see see you're trying to do the whole
cancel culture thing right now
you realize cancel culture listen dude
in the real. In the real
world, in the real world, you can't be
talking like that, all right? In the real
world, I know for a fact you say
worse shit to Hinkle and Zirka
in real life, and Hinkle said worse.
I know this for a fact, okay?
It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter what anyone says. What someone
says in private doesn't fucking matter.
What you say in public is an optics
disaster.
What I said in public,
oh, you mean when I defended ACP
and what I got
for it? God knows who else you're
That's not public, retard.
DEMs aren't public. I know it can be public
because if you're sending it to me, you're probably sending
it to everyone in the world.
What? Who?
What are my discord of like 50 people?
Charmel, you need to accept self-criticism.
CNN came up to you and asked and talked to you.
And you said you forgive Hitler.
Why would that be the first thing to come on your mind?
First off, first off,
that's not what I said. That's what you
remember because you want to
hate me, but you can't because
I am. That's what it was
reported. You told the fucking
CNN journalists that you forgive him.
No, no, no. Let's
clear the air. Let's clear the air because I was at that
event and it was amazing and I met some really
amazing young men and this one dude,
I wish I could remember his name. He told me about this
esoteric French mathematician. I wish I could
remember, but I can't. I didn't write it down because
I was so busy.
But no, let's get their fucking record straight, okay?
I go there and before then, right, you said that you guys were getting documentary.
You did not say it was CNN.
I didn't know it was CNN until Hinkle is on the stage and he goes,
and we have CNN here
after I had talked to him.
My fucking heart sank.
I was like, oh shit.
I was just talking.
Charmole, I don't want to fucking sit here
and have a trial.
I don't care about... I'm taller than you. I don't care about...
I'm taller than you.
I don't care.
Listen,
I'm not here to have a trial
and punish you.
I'm here to give you an example
of behavior
that you need to reflect on and fix.
My behavior is better than Danny Shams
or all these other assholes who've been in your shit.
All right.
Charmold,
what did I tell you?
I said,
I want to see improvement.
I want to see you seriously.
Take a turn towards something more professional,
more serious.
And we could talk about.
I'll go work at the local factory and I'll donate
$100. No, that's no.
And I won't DM you for two years.
Yeah, no. Because I see that's how you get close to you.
Let's start with you not DMing me crazy stuff.
All right. Orvo, what's up?
They're just jokes. All right, butvo, what's up? They're just jokes.
All right, but you have to learn how to control your
your joking.
And you have to learn how to be
disciplined, all right?
And I'm literally giving you a chance
to do that.
All right.
And you know, Jackson
probably would... Jackson wouldn't even want to give you a chance, and that. All right. And you know, Jackson, probably would...
Jackson wouldn't even want to give you a chance,
and I'm giving you one, right?
Well, at
the IFA,
the IFAP, right,
Institute for Free American Palestine,
right?
Great,
great name, by the way. That's not the name. So, right? Great, great name,
by the way.
That's not the
name.
So,
so,
so,
it was,
Institute for
free America
in Palestine,
that's IPAP.
It's not,
it's not,
it's not,
I think,
I'm not, Institute for
free America
and Palestine.
It's just institute for free America. It's not in the name. Oh, okay. My bad. Well, so I was the one who
tried to warn you because I got freaked out, right? Because I mentioned Hitler once. I mentioned
Hegel 30 fucking times. Did that make the CNN cut? Obviously not, right?
But I got scared because I mentioned Hitler.
Thank God it did.
Yeah.
And I warned, no, and I warned you in good fucking faith.
I came up to you and I said,
Haas, we might have an issue.
All right.
You made a mistake.
And you, and what you did was Jackson was in a fucking, he was in an, he was in an honest God conversation with other people. And you just started yelling, Jackson, Jackson at the top of your fucking lungs. You embarrassed me publicly. You know how hard that is to embarrass Charmhole? I was getting red in the face
I was like oh my God he's like talking to somebody
important and you're like Jackson
because it's crazy dude because Charmoles
had and I was trying to want you on the private
even though even if you made
a mistake on accident
we went did so much planning for that event.
It was so important.
CNN came.
Imagine CNN, they air you saying you forgive Hitler and that's our movement.
How is that fair to us?
They didn't.
No, thank God they didn't.
But you could imagine why we would panic
they edited it they edited it so well i was praising you the entire time i was talking about how great
charles was and hagel and how he turned me to hegel nobody they edited it to make me look like i'm gay for him
charm hold Nobody is here
to crucify you.
We just want you
to be aware that
you need to improve
and make an effort and show an effort
in good faith and then
you will be taken with the seriousness you want to be taken with all right i'll stop calling you
brownoid i'll stop saying nick foentes is a better debater than yeah you i'll stop saying zirka is a god king compared to you
start all that shit you have to start being professional and disciplined okay yeah
I'll start donating to ACP no you don't have to donate you know you don't have to donate even
a penny you just have to show and clean up your act that's it yeah like Hgelian e-girl did
where's she at
she was you know trying to tell the one cool dude
I met trying to say how he's not even in the party
hit on him
it was she tried
it doesn't look listen to it it doesn't even matter right i told you what i had to tell you
you got to take a chill pill you got to have some collective discipline or some discipline in
professionalism and that's what i love you guys i love the work you're doing i just i'm worried
it's too liberal.
Okay, that's the, bro, I don't know.
What do you mean?
See, that's the issue, you know?
If you don't like the work we're doing, then I don't know what you want.
I do like the work you're doing.
I'm just worried that more Danny Shaw type shit might happen.
And I'm trying to be the guy.
Look, I'm trying to be there.
I know how Discord works.
I know how Reddit works.
I know how the internet works.
That guy did not.
You got people and you got people.
It's not just him.
I just keep using him because he's obviously like the top one that really
fucked everything well he tried to all right but you got other guys that are little that are smaller
like versions of him right like this little tiny dude who tried to kick me out of the VIP event right
because i didn't spend the extra $40 because he got sold out this little fucking brownoid's trying
to kick me out.
I'm like, no, no, I know these guys.
Dude, listen, I literally told you to fucking improve yourself and you're talking about brownoids.
Like, what a disaster, all right?
You got to, you have some serious reflection to do. You have some serious contemplation to do. You have some serious, you got to really think about this shit, all right? Because literally right off the bat you've got this
impulsivity you know and that's the problem
there's no one requesting at the moment
yeah i can I can see.
Well, it's a shame.
So many people have so much to say about us an awful lot.
Um... uh-huh there's a you yoopos. All right, go ahead. Starz Hunter. Um, hold on. Um, Um, Um, hold on. Amirio, can you check your message in the mod thing? All right.
So, yeah, they didn't say anything. Okay. There's the Marx Midwestern account that's in the listener.
I invited to speak in
Listener
I am invited to speak in
Listen
A thread I am invited to speak in the listeners. I am I going to speak in
Listen to read.
I'm going to speak in
Listen to read.
Oh my God.
Sorry, there was like a feedback problem.
What were you saying?
Mark's Midwestern is in the
listeners. I invited to speak but they won't come up.
They've been posting a lot about our party.
Isn't that just Andrew?
Yeah, and they just left, actually, as I said that.
Yeah.
Okay, I mean...
You know, that's...
That's fine fine I mean you know that person's going to be getting some
never mind uh anyway uh yeah Uh, Michael. Mm-hmm. I had to see Michael
I was
going to see Michael.
Go ahead.
Um, I was, if you're familiar with Thomas Massey.
He's like a senator in the United States.
Yep, I am.
Um... in the United States? Yep, I am. I don't know.
Do you think there are already
like forces
sort of inside
the United States
government that are kind of
pushing for
um sort of like volcanization i guess
like within the united states i don't know but i don't know how he would be uh someone doing that
i mean i guess there's just, like, the idea that, I don't know, just, I mean, I guess what if you were talking about the United States in a capacity of like the shared like kind of government of like U.S. and Canada or like of North America
Um
Would you
sort of
like
rearrange
uh
kind of thing Hey look man I'm so sorry but this question is just it's just taking a drag
on my on my existence i'm i'm i'm sorry i can't i don't mean to be rude but it's like i just
cannot i don't have it in me me to continue listening to whatever that is all
right I'm really sorry oh yeah well Oh, yeah.
Well... You know, Jovian tag
sure go ahead
go ahead Go ahead.
All right, he left, but we have another.
Go ahead, Al.
Hey, Alz, how's it going?
Good, how are you?
Good, good.
You're talking earlier about,
I don't know if that whole Khmer Rouge thing started with the red operative Lenin or whatever, that account. Would you summarize what your point was
as these people, these, you know know these so-called communists and and their reaction to that sort of discussion as being simply an absence of dialectics
I look I don't I don't consider this topic to be decisive or important in any immediate sense.
All right.
I just everyone should study history and study the facts without bias and investigate the facts.
And that's really all I have to say.
I don't I think it is really useless to create a vector of polarization around that issue
because Vietnam still exists and it's a legitimate socialist country,
which we, you know, and the Kimmer Rouge does not exist, you know, so I don't know what to say, you know and and and the chimeroos does not exist you know so I don't know what to say
you know
okay yeah that's fair
um
I wanted to extend this to you know
like uh the last couple
of streams you've been talking about
uh huh I'm Piker and his support of bernie and aOC
at those rallies um i feel like what he's he's missing a dialectical view um of trump's presidency
just seeing it as,
you know,
it's something that happens in history
sequentially
rather than a culmination of
of forces.
Look,
I'll just simplify it, right?
The fundamental hypocrisy of Hassan Piker is that on the one hand, he will respond to anyone that points out that he's tailing Democrats with, listen, we live in the real world.
This is an opportunity and this is a platform to push things more left, you know, this is the real world,
this is not some insane, you know, pure dogma that, you know, sectarian thing. And, you know,
when you consider overall this, their significance on the national stage, it's good
because of this effect it has objectively.
It's like, well, if you
apply that logic consistently, you will find that the
effect Trump has is way better
than Bernie Sanders and AOC by that
logic.
So, that's the problem. By his own logic, there's no reason he shouldn't be supporting Trump,
according to his own logic. And when we have an even more principled position than him and simply said in the MAGA movement, not in Trump's presidency, we're not even trying to pressure Trump's administration or his presidency, just the movement that, you know, effectors of radicalization and discourse have opened up in such a way that makes it possible to communicate communist ideas in a new context.
That's apparently insane.
And suddenly only then does he want to be ideologically principled and say, no, no, no, no, that's right wing.
No, no, no, that's this, that's that.
Well, apply his same purity testing to his fucking Democrat tailism, and he's a hypocrite.
He wants one or the other.
He wants to say, I'm a pragmatist, and I'm going to support Bernie and
O.C. If you're a fucking pragmatist, then just be a Maga-Communist.
That's the pragmatic thing. If you want to be a complete, pure
sectarian, then be that. But when he's dealing with us Maga communists, he postures as a
principled leftist, but when he's dealing with pushback and criticism on his support for Bernie
and the Democrats, he wants to be a realist, who only cares about the objective opportunities opened up by divisions within the hegemony.
So that's the problem with Hassan, you know?
Gotcha, yeah.
Um... Gotcha. Yeah. Um, okay. Yeah.
Uh, only other thing that I have to say is I'd suggest, uh, I mean, not, not that I'm in a place to suggest, but I listen to Theo Vaughn's
podcast, and he's in a
prime position for a maga-communism
or, you know, the
NCP movement. I'm aware, but
you know, reaching him, it's not the
easiest thing in the world
for us. We haven't tried, but, you know, it's not a walk in the park.
Yeah, if we've had the opportunity, we'd love it.
I think that's absolutely a big audience that you can get after. So that's all I'd say thanks appreciate it see you later man so uh yeah Thank you. You know, all right guys we're probably going to wrap the space up because you know people are too cowardly to confront
uh me which is not a surprise.
It's actually pretty standard.
We have Spanish-Dominican king coming up.
That's just Richie.
Okay, Richie, we're going to wrap up right now, but if you want to say some few closing words, that'd be great.
What's going on, Richie? How are you? I think he's having trouble connecting.
But there's another two now. Okay, who are the other two?
Set the cron.
I just added them.
All right.
Go ahead. Yes. step the cron I just added them all right go ahead
yes
so I have a question
about something
I'm not really
an opponent
I'm an infrared member
but I do have a question
something related
to Trotskyism
and left-wing communism
and I'm still learning so I apologize something related to Trotskyism and left-wing communism.
And I'm still learning, so I apologize if I'm not well-learned
on some things, but if I'm not mistaken,
Trotsky was critical
of the later Soviet Union
because he thought it was too authoritarian,
not democratic enough
and other things.
Am I right about that?
Trotsky himself, or what did
you say?
So, again, I'm still learning,
but wasn't Trotsky, for different reasons, but wasn't he against the Soviet Union for being too authoritarian under Stalin and later on? No, no, no. He was against the Soviet Union because he regarded Stalin as a vulgar populist who basically brought in a bunch of, in Trotsky's mind, lowly, unenlightened Russian peasants into the bureaucracy and into reigns of power.
And Trotsky wanted this to be gate kept only for the, you know,
Europhile, enlightened intellectuals like himself.
And he wanted to be more authoritarian than Stalin against the peasant majority and failed and was outmaneuvered. And Trotsky basically, it was a class war of attempting to maintain the prestige and dictatorship of, you know,
the petty bourgeois intellectuals against the majority of the population, right?
So that was Trotsky's problem.
Okay, so that does change my question a little bit.
I know a big problem with left-wing communism is that, at least in my understanding,
is that it's too, I guess, libertarian in the sense.
Not necessarily.
Okay, well, I was thinking...
No, I mean, the Italian wing of left communism, so-called left communism, they're even proto-fascistic in terms of their kind of organicist totalitarianism
that they support.
Okay, well, I guess
the root of the question I want to ask
is a big reason
from my understanding that
that some socialist and communist countries
aren't as so-called politically open or free, more regimented, is that because you obviously have to have a counter-revolutionary force by the people's government.
Well, if the United States successfully has an American revolution, because I understand that America is a big player in these counter-revolutionaries in other socialist countries. If America
becomes communist,
does that mean that more left-wing
forms of communism can't play out
in America? Or will it still
be more right-leaning
or a centralist?
I'm not, I'm kind of confused by the question.
You know, I will say that the, the, the access of political differences among communists are not based on their administrative views.
And they're not based on procedural views.
They're based on fundamental differences with respect to strategy
and party discipline and so on and so on.
But they're not based on different systems because there's only been one system, which is the socialist system overseen by the followers of Lenin.
Okay, thank you.
I guess I still have some learning to do. Thank you for your time.
Thank you. Appreciate it.
All right, I think we're going to wrap up the space. Who is requesting besides Pesto Maim, Kayla?
Uyo or Jujoov, Saras Hunter.
All right, bring them on, and that'll be the last person.
Go ahead. All right. All right. We're ending the space.
I mean, there's...
That's it.
They're not saying anything.
Space is ending.
It's over.
We're going to wrap it up. Thank you. You know, All right. Thank you. You know, You know, You know, You know, You know, You know, You know, You know, You know, and Sleeper Cell. Sleeper cell, what's up?
All right, I think we're gonna wrap up.
We're gonna to wrap up.
We're going to wrap it up.
I think I had some stuff to talk about or say...
No.
I think I'll see you guys Sunday. Yeah, see you guys Sunday.
Something really interesting is coming, by the way.
And I think it's going to be very exciting for really interesting is coming by the way and
I think it's going to be very exciting
for you guys hopefully
this weekend
but
big
big things
big things stay tuned
stay tuned okay Big things, big things. Stay tuned.
Stay tuned.
Bye bye.