INFRARED SHOWDOWN [2021-11-26]

2021-11-27
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where do you lie
on the political spectrum
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sometimes not so far left i don't know
depends on the day and hoow i'm feeling
but yeah hi i'm an ofvoir and where do you lie on the sado masochism index
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you do you lie politically and why do you wish
misfortune and destruction upon all those
who would dare disagree with you
you'r eastern europe in the house beag i'm a communist
and the reason wh i want
destruction of all people around me
it's because it's in my blood i am from the balkmist
it just
flows red in here you know
so you are basically telling each and every guest in this show
that you will metaphorically in a video game devour their souls
consume their flesh and bring do
blood from their skulls
yes
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and especially charmhole
of course
that it's a this is already done if you ask me this is already done we can end it right now
i see you call yourself a communist but we all know
that there is no unity among communists yet i'm a communist with trotks leanings and yugoslav background and
very
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and not for a good reason infamous
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tell us where you lie on the political
spectrum
i'm an anarcho gamer which means i'm all about accelrasm accelerationism
ah rockal league is my game one v one me
any one of you i could be excusi i could be destiny
and i planned to beat obama by the end of my lifetime
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a he's a gamer and i'm better gamer than him i could beat him in any video game any day of the week easy pazy lemonay so you say what are your politics again can what are you saying
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anarcho
gamerism what does that mean
what does that mean
you'll find out by the end of the night where does that fly on the political spectrum
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post modern near marxist i guess is probably what you call me or a revisionist
i'm sure that's what other people call me
i'm here for the means and creams here to have a laugh
and yeah i'm glad to be here with the almighty hears and hopefully we can get to some too whole theory
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thearo where do you lie
politically and why do you think
that everyone who disagrees with you
deserves to go to jail
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i believe that everybody in here is inferior to me because they probably haven't thought about their positions too much and uh
they don't know the true power of the
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yeah i'm i would say like i'm marxist leninist
with like maybe some like gaddafi leanings
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and literally this is my first time meeting him but i
yeah i guess i'm just going to rip him a new assole or something
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interesting very interesting
dario the deceiver has returned
so we will briefly
returned back aryo why why do you have such a tendency to flee
in the midst of battle
it's the cia man they're after me i can't i can't do anything about it
they they see a threat and they neutralize it
what have you done to be on the radar
of the cia
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i don't want to get you banned has
interesting so politically where do you lie
i'm aloke tatorist
be serious where do you lie politically
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i'm a political heavyweight ok what i'm going to say i thoinght i can shoed some light on this dario was your position on biden you were pretty pro biden up to the election right
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interesting interesting
what has brandon ever done
or you
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he he ran by and he threw some dollars at me like out of his car just like a bunch of dollar bills at me
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we are missing pestol mime sultan and cheshire cat where the fuck are they
where'd the troops hoz
i thought you were rallying to troops
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clowns
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hold on where we may be getting a surprise guest
it was unbelievable coming out of the arena jo lwis
what's up
bam
what's selling in the holls
jo lewis tell us about where you lie on the political
spectrum
yeah i mean dumb folks call me a sock dum
and i don't really ascribe to that bullshit
but
i'd say i have like probably marxist leanings in certain areas and
but yeah
interesting interesting
i don't want my cams all turn on now
while we wait for cheshire the scarity cat to join
the sole right winger of this show tonight
we have to do a preliminary test of the guest's level of knowledge
how many holes are below a woman's
waste
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obviously the butthole everybody knows that
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it is a vagina hole
there's also four other holes that are glands that secrete the sweet
tasty juices that are
what's so out
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then how far in do they have to be before they get conted right because i mean technically there is i mean there's more holes inside
what is a whle
true this is why this our i got my name the charmhole
what is the charm is it the volvo
all right he's finally here the cheshire cat
the most annoying fucking cat on the internet
cheshire cat where do you lie
politically
and what
is your
pferred
flavor
of ice cream
all right so for ice cream i prefer no one cares what is your political position
and i guess i'd be a pyrannist i'm socially i'm
center right conservative and economically i'm a laborist
but i'm not a
commy
interesting and why are you a cat
why aren't you one
what of work moving on
moving on
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all right so tra is
so
is going to be different in format from the last one the last one
had judges decide a champion
this time
we're going to be a little more direct
you see the chat is going to vote who to
cheap
not kick
the winner
of the vote
is going to be able to choose to eliminate
the bottom two
most despicable
loers
but
there will also be
the khans favor at the end of each round which is purely ceremonial
where i will choose who i consider to be
the best
debatter amongst
now for our first topic thank you conn
yesterday a national holiday was celebrated in the united states
called
thanks
giving
many reject thanksgiving because of
the native american genocide
is thanksgiving a celebration of genocide
should it be eliminated as a national holiday
or
are these people
reaching
just a b thank you right left s listen if we're going to talk about genocide we have to talk about the sixteen billion animals that are slaughtered
stay on topic stay on top
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man thanksgiving staple american holidays it's not a celebration of genocide it's a celebration of harvest and i don't see any reason
why we should bow out so like radlib
pressure to eliminate
alright
historic holiday
like doesn't really make sense her harvest was just a pretense for like the
upcoming genocide i mean i don't know
o no all right so like yesterday right when we had our thanksgiving feasts for those of you who are blessed to be americans
right
no your tiny us
useless little european gassan
all right
we didn't have genocide pie at the end of it we had pumpkin pie
because we're celebrating the pumpkin harvest
that's what they were doing
all the fucked squash in the turkeys and all that dumb shit
i thought i would say even if it was a celebration of genocide or whatever you think it was
it has probably so far been removed from the original celebration that we were having
that
it it'd be stupid to try and get rid of it now especially since so many americans seem to still want to do it
um yeah so it might might be like that like
it
lori fight genocide at some point whatever
but right now i'm most people when they do it
i mean i'm not american but like
most people when they do it they probably don't give a fuck about that shit
and to get involved in that stupid shit like oh should we abolish this national holiday is just like
the culture war pigsteide
like i think the lest
usually avoid even not americans are fucking celebrating i'd stop jacking each other off and let's get some disagreement in the room ok can i just say i media we get a recognition of what stolen land everyone's pleace
well i'm not hawaii so i guess i don't know who who did i seal that from judg i don't live on stolen land all from the kingdom of king kamea maha
i mean ition how
hows what what's what do you want to know this very important to you what stolen o do you w
according to bandit it's stolen serbian land so i'm not sure
yes
i'm not sure what to make of it
you a an from us
es anyone does anyone here consider thanksgiving
to be a problematic holiday that celebrates
genocide
i just it only thing that i'm curious about is why do people even
bother celebrating it like why do you celebrate why not just stay at homes our history make itcause were history here is about history it's a bgu ate it's a big log a you know how you spend ac
you spend them at home
gaming and you would know that if you were an actual ners sstive nh yes
somebody somebody from en has you if we want to eat big dinners we have to make a holiday around it otherwise we listen this is a serious topic we are talking about
thanksgiving and
the conflict between the settlers and the native americans
it's actually indigenous not native american police house if you don't mind the indigenous
is there any contention here about thanksgiving
i just i just think that the real contentsion is that we shart bo darill you are on sin ice
you are hiding your real position dariel because
you are afraid to lose isn't that the case that is the case would have beenings a form of emotional dea think hold on a daril thinks you're an idiot
for thinking that thanksgiving
is a
celebration of genocide
as you're wrong i just think she's an idiot because she's a woman i'm stop ji
ohlisten what i'm saying is this right all all going to say is this right thanksgiving isn't a celebration of genocide
maybe it should be i don't know maybe that would make was but
oh my god that's the real
it wouldi be a better holiday if the natives wan i think our one true con said it best earlier this week he said liberalism is
genocide all right so by definition if you are american you're shot down bock up charmhole anda
what are your thoughts on thanksgiving
i don't know i mean it's kind of shitty i mean we could just change it to like pumpkin day or something i don't know tk turkey what what what is it that you find so problematic about thanksgiving
what's the history behind it it is the history behind it it is kind of implicitly like celebrated that sort of
that's like literally side argument people used to be like christ brack and christmas
you know it's just like
f i cares this is there genocide wa is is is there genocide during gratness
was the basically it's just like it's just like who gives a shit about the history like who actually thinks
about all that shit when like eat it like
you know what your family they don't
you know it's jt like nobody really thinks about that shit true
and i worked in the service industry for seven years and let me tell you something there are two
fundamental american holidays that nobody misses all right
there's fourth of july and there's thanksgiving
that ever every single thing every other it's like oh it's religious base oh it's like i don't have to go to the bank today right like i go jom day on topic
so he's on topic i'm saying thanksgiving is literally a part
of american holiday it's like one of the cooler holidays
of america i mean it was any like i lo like so luis talk let let smart guy tser less youre indigenous it might be like a holiday you probably don't celebrate
that' is why in my state noy one whose lonipee celebrates thanksgiving
and they ollcer in america you celebrate it even if you don't let me talk to the let me talk to the surviving on of people in the across the delaware i'm sure i'm going find so many they're going to be like oht totally observe thanksgiving i get the fun if you come on thanksgiving you're saying i'm saying they have to celebrate it because celebrate sharef you liket to celebrate sh
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it's the one day everyone gi off yes you want thanksgiving let me call my girlfriend the work on thanksgiving atually if you ly people s iusing fucking tips a right so don't fucking complain ti worker charminglisten
d one at a time shut up just shut up
cheshire and then joe lewis and if one more person
says some snarky irrelevant bullshit you are getting muted for fifteen minutes
said
ya so
if you really want to make about jenoicis we could call it victory day or some shit
by me in
it seems weird
that i mean this is america where we're sort of this country where our own national people
if the native people or and certain native americans feel like they're not americans they should have their own shit
then if they're not part of our country why should they have a say on our holidays
they're not they don't want to be citizens here they don't want to be part of the american people so fine
but then don't talk shit about our holidays or our customs
his are not one of us that's fucking stoop
joe joe go first and then bandit come on bandit come on shart clearly surveyed all the indigenous people in the united states before he said that s statement i mean unless he didn't like
did you survey all the indigenous people to see their opinions on holidays cat
no but i was thinking n sa that don't take ever again i that and that's w im but if they don't want to be part of our culture then why do should they have a say on our holiday
what do you whatre you fucking talking about again what was that
it's like if you want if ask you what you what you said before that i'm not saying elaborate on the thing i didn't hear you say
if they don't want to be part of america then they do not get a say on american holidays
because they're not part of us
ah okay
kind of wait what kind of cutshit is that you have to force everybody to be part of america that's kind of the point of america is that' the making one at a time
why are they making protests precisely because they think they're a part of the american
site
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i think not all not all indigenous people live on reservations but if they do live on reservations they are like
federal federally recognized as not part of the united states
i do think though we should nor like no matter how how you feel about the people who live in this country right now
i think we should normalize protesting holidays that not everybody ideologically aligns themselves with
like it just seems like our holiday so you can get some exercise so w just left you say to me
dario the
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who who left it sorry bill charle will tromle is back
i think jo list that was in our pocket comment jos got to give
response to that surely what the fact
ye know i mean like i mean it's cool that people can make insults
to me so it's fine i mean but mother fuck is almost heur on their camp so you know g shot fuck up talk shit about me they need to turn on their fucking cameras right like gse fuck energy should i didn't hear what she said
but if you're talking about his appearance or something
it is only fair that you would have to cam up to to say that right you going to call me a ft thought let's see what you got big boy you gotm
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well anyway like i just think we should normalize protesting holidays that like don't ideologically align with a majority of the united states or even just the united states generally like we should be allowed to say like hey it's cool not celebrate thanksgiving it's cool not celebrate christmas easter all this shit like go no holiday wor
hold on hold on first firs first yare right then charmel
yeah i feel like at that point you would just end up with no holidays cause everyone would find something to be offended by
no hardy
no holidayan people will still celebrate holidays just because you protest one doesn't mean you're not going to celebrate anymore
so what your neighbors gobout your neighbors not going to cebrate christmas and they're going to fuck and cry yourself to sleep go oh it's so pretty because my neighbor is to protesting it like is it like why do we need a controlled opposition
everybody has pro everybody protest for different reasons what the fuck you talking about and just because somebody protests something doesn't mean you can't support it
w out of time
the issue the issue is
that if you don't force people to celebrate holidays
neo liberal capitalism
will force them to work instead and then nobody will have a holiday that's the issue
i got it
but anyway so what's okay so what's worse right columbus day which nobody celebrates
other than like some banks taking a day off i'm in jersey it tw
oh yeah i watch the sopranos so i know the importance of columbus day like in the jersey we parades for every single fucking priest and roman jersey intly in new jersey and i know that's not true we don't celebrate that one at a time exactly let's joe finishes point then schesh could respond
and i just hear a voice b i'd love to see who it is but they want to turn the camera on wasan sharpel
i was just saying that you know nobody cares about columbus
everybody cares about thanksgiving
right and i've never seen a protest for thanksgiving
i've seen people like the whole point of thanksgiving is like
hey sorry about the genocide here's some turkey right like i feel like that's kind of thems not even about that it's it's about celebrating the harvest after the end of fall so yeah why don't sink like cold
go like if you want to celebrate the harvest then don't celebrate it like i get that but i feel like it's just like it's literally like people who say like opu christ back in christmas like
you want to go back to the original root of a holiday that like happened like
literally like hundreds of years ago it's like who cares we just want to eat and like
fucking like pumpkin pie and turkey isstaes it just feels like let's
first joe then bandits
yeah i was jus going to say like it just seems like
holidays now are just proxies
where people have a reason to call their fucking parents and see their family
like if anything it seems like we need to have a better embracement of the families in the united states
as opposed to just using holidays to force people
just to visit family members call their parents
kiss their fucking loved ones
and you inus if you don't force po everybody well do take then thend it let's me bended first then sys s
so indigenous people when they protest i think they have every right to protest that right like especially because
i mean to them it does represent something else than to people who maybe weren't you know like colonized whatever
but on the other side
right what johe lewis said right
like the problem in america is precisely that you have this
constantly
individualization of people people
constly running away from each other and whatever there's a lack of community and whatever
and i think that can be built in other places
instead of this stupid parkingship right
like your indigenous people have a problem with this
is a legitimate right of course they have right
i would have a problem with that if somebody if i was in their situation
great
so ya
yeah exactly i me like se but what is
no listen i'll spoken forhree just go on just a quick point i just think it's really fucking shitty to be so dismissive like listen some people get a bit fucking for along with it and you get the fucking left oyds on twitarth you know especially the white ones are the worst with it um but you know i can understand indigenous person expressing a genuine concern or issue with it and i think we should at least be like
you know understanding of that rather than just being like you don't like it
fock off
like do you know what i mean considering we are on stolen land after all well that
but you shoud up to darya all right we're on st the the you are jeshire first the dario aro su the fuck up jesthire first then daril
if you are on stolen land then literally every human being on the planet is on stolen land because we have thousands of years
of history of us just focking killing each other
and genociding each other and stealing each other shit
i find it weird
that we have this weird moral compulsion in the united states to turn the to shut time off
a
seventeen hundred
and then we get to ignore and that nothing before that is ever stolen land
or it's just when the europeans came
all right when we came here and if you look at especially latin america you had these giant fucking empires
right
the inka the aspect the mind these people were fucking huge
right
the not native north americans killed each other and genocide each other all the time as well look up the hero on people
o what happened to them after some other native americans decided they wanted to take their land okay
it's like we forget that
the natives weren't these like noble savages i guess we co can use that what said
nobody said it sounds like when you say well that nate n nobody said then they say they were tribes that kill each other of course they di but
the churches got to south america that's got to be the reason why doll there's no y savages right on there on here is our do this darrel then anna then joe
yeah i just i just want to ask h
i just want to ask chad like what's the point in saying that we should respect indigenous people for not wanting to celebrate right it's an optional holiday right you can choose not to celebrate right like you choose not to celebrate national what people about you can i don't what people about not celebrating the you talk in
you fucking dario why people fucking mony go they're not celebrating it ll the're fucking complain about it yeah they got the right to complain it's caolled free speech bitch
who fucking cares
you know they're not going to cancel thanksgiving are they
unless you think cancer cultures fucking run a mark
ok forcn real
cancl culture is fucky insane and that's the reason why we don't celebrate
thanksgiving here
it's it's only because of councl we got a lot mar anymore sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i live in the united states of america cheshire i think what you do you move
yeah
one
like a month ago
oh congratulations welcome to freedom
commiserations more like
i am now i am now free i'm now free i'll bring you what i think it's mostly cultural i think it's mostly cultural on on guys we got to keep this orderly anna then joe then a
we can have ya right and we're going to go back to chesharre
like i don't i don't remember what i was going to say it was in response to cat uh ch i
huh
do you remember not
no i don't remember all right joe go ahead
i'll pass it over the afa now
yeah i'm gooferent i g end the story it's culture war bullshit on the like on both sides and that
mostly like a minor new story i we'll forget about by next week
so it is doltr bullshit a culture war bullshit i agree but
it
every culture work
not every but most cultural war issues
do have like
some point right whether
is there some legitimates political i
if anything most of the most of the focus is on columbus y at least for at least when it comes to like native genesis i feel like
thanksgiving is mostly just seen as like a day of harvest and like like you guys said like if you
don't want to celebrate it you don't have to celebrate it
but i feel like
such a small minority of the population
that protest it that' is just like i feel like it's just literally cultural cultual war
busshit my bad odds even and i
can i just ask youjoe lewis a serious question rather without him dismissing me
i just want to know listen to jor
joe you claim you claim to have marxist leanings ok listen
if you have marxist leanings why can't you answer the question of
how do we make sure people have holidays without forcing them to have them right because under capitalism
you're incentivized to work your fucking ass off every single day
especially during holidays with other people
uh get time off and get time to relax right because you you sometimes get paid more to work on those days right so we don't force people to
to take holidays then only the most vulnerable people will not have a holiday
but the people who are most can afford to have a holiday will have a holiday right so why do you scoff at that
i don't necessarily think that
is the reality i think that
right now we have so many people who are working their ass off
on holidays
who need to only are excited about holidays because their ability to make more money
like personally for me i think there needs to be a more centralization of community
and lifting each other up
like i think one of the problems and why i'm very sort of
apprehensive on holidays is because of just that like
we don't really have a centralization of families
and like the expiration of all types of families
not just two parent households
and i think because of that
and because of this late
how america's essentially overworked and overtired we're forced to having these really weird relationships with holidays and with families like we wor' too much so we can't see our families and the work too hard so we can't even have the holiday off to see our family
exactly but why do you but why do you think you're overworked it's because you're not forced to take holidays right you don't have a holiday
you don't have scheduled holiday hours or days that you have to take right so people
work because they need to work under the capitalist system right so so what i'm saying is
necessarily if you make why not if you make me abyss a day of work if you say hey you're you know fired or you're not going to work for the next two weeks i'm just going to do something else americans are always hustling no matter what
i
this just gets
sigma sigma
just as a lit no it's for real like ask any american like how many jobs they have and they're like well
three and a half right the i colck in it too and i don't the other t and that's how it should be right armhle
i don't really th i i you a real paradise well so that's the problem isn't it is that especially thanksgiving is kind of invindicative of that not only because we consume so much fucking turkey
and stuffing and bread and alcohol that day but then the next day we wake up and go i need all these electronics so i can give em to my family for christmas
like this consumers mindset is way out average americle does not worth more than onejob
only seven point eight americans estimate it actually work more than one job
what yeah you got that from the i r s i like we're going to sell im everything anywereate
yeah ok i just looked it up from wters i don'ts r jops it the cia
right
thank you so far as that if this was in two thousand and eighteen so maybe i
oh
maybe coquarterly and technically it was going up because in one thousand nine hundred six was only six point eight so it's gone up
it may still be going up
but as in we havere americans
oh my god throw more numbers at me is great like i can say anything against numbers like o cares
like what matters is people going to work even if you tell them not to they're just going to find something else
because we would rather grind our fingers to the bone in order to give some money to our renters and leasers to our fucking landlords please manager please i just need a a few extra dollars so i can pay eighty per cent of my income to my landlord
you know
like it's insane but people are going to keep going to they're going to keep doing it because two days out of the year you get free hot doogs on thanks on
fourth of july
you get free turkey on thanksgiving so
um you know it's kind of bullshit though that in' we only get like a month to like decorate for christmas and stuff like i need more time i stay on topic to thanksgiving okay
but crazly i need more time for christmas ok i need like two momnths i'llrt let i want to clarify the topic so we don't get st up this topic is not about if you like thanksgiving or if you like turkey breast or if you like fucking stuffing or anything nobody gives a buck about your preferences we are asking a fundamental question of justice is thanksgiving as a holiday
justified in the first place
or is thanksgiving
ah
jest o cat cammed up wow proerps to you
or is thanksgiving
comple like h just you know
normal american holiday
so it's not about if you like it or not it's about
is it is it an injustice that this holiday is
celebrted
well the issue the issue isn't whether or not it's it's despite indigenous people the issue is that it is an american holiday and everything american is bad
yeah
i would say um if you don't like it you have to look i think every political thing you have to calculate as like this a cost benefit analysis okay
so when you look at something like trying to cancel an american holiday
you have to first you have to figure out how popular it is
right
and everybody likes thanksgiving
no matter what joe lewis says about all of the native people he has he's gone out and apparently surveyed personally himself i ask you if you survey people i never said i s esre issue but cheshire the issue isn't who how many people like it in america right because we're asking what do the indigenous people think about it right it's like asking well how many people like slavery right and you can say well eighty percent of people like slavery
slavery would be a good expense of political capital a that point all right going after a fucking holiday that was just for a time off your family right you want and i w i being anti slavery ok fucking dumb ass learn english
all right
dario wll you said what in english
ok great seven point zoe
yyea soking slavery
it is good at good expense of political capital because that is something which is very bad
and i would say it's a more you're morally compelled to fight that right
ok thanksgiving is a holiday where you eat with your family
right the majority of americans like it
and the people who don't like it are fucking crazy and most americans think they're fucking crazy
so i wouldn't if i were you
and i probably shouldn't be helping the enemy because all of you are folking call mees
but i wouldn't waste my time trying to go after things that everybody else liked
all right so offt like im you look like a with you i don't think anybody's advocating to put this like center stage we're just talking abt joe l says and i'm basically just beside said if you don't talk i said we should more i said
i said we should normalize
protesting holidays
that is so divorced from the desision that you mak what does that even what i say what i say what i say and why is it stupid if you said we should normalize pedophilia i would think you have some weird shit on your lap ok i saiy we should normalize protesting holidays what does the normalization of protesting holidays have anything to do with pedophilia if you really want ever we're going to go down this whats are you talking about normalize
that
question i think you want to do it mor fukm saying to turner cad trying to say but he wask like normale what he's trying to say but he looks like itsm and is saying joe what holiday would you like to protest that's i think i think i you mean i think if you're angry at thanksgiving you're you just don't know how to cook a good turkey that's it
rsed
do it spatch cock spatch cock your turkey cooking
ohy don't you yell at him for his bad take how come you only yell at me
hey hels at me too
we are we are going to do this now
the round is not yet over there's going to be a second prong to the round
which is going to be related to this realm
and it's going to be the question in the light of the thanksgiving theme
is america stolen
land
boins
yeah i guess who cares because even if we wanted to give it back to them like how many
exactly how many people can we give land back to
what's done is done
there's like two thousand people left are thely ok i guess you can have all of america have fun
yeah i mean we already kind of won that one it's a g g
i hate to agree but yeah i mean really
what like what are you going to do and at this point what's really weird too is it's even kind of taboo to even talk about anything
indigenous or native like joe said earlier like oh actually it's indigenous it's like nobody cares like i what
you know there's actually there is a streamer his named las suee and i suggest uh following him because he's got really good points
and he does come up with some really good stuff of how the american government still to this day
ah i mean for lack of a better term basic they molest the indigenous to this day like these
the like
like there's some really fucked up shit and there's not a lot of people to deal with it
but they still have to deal with it which is lame
but
at the same time you know we've already cleared
so many acres of land for corn and oil and like all this stuff
we've destroyed this land you know
we should probably recognize the agreements that we've had with these people there right it seems like america doesn't really like to uphold the end of the deal
when it comes to these type of things know
twenty twenty one i don't think i should
reged asserting out the rights we laid out in fucking seven hundred eighty right then we should probably revise them then w j turn your camaup by the way i'm curious i turned it on because so i could s nobody could say that i didn't do it but you know ah so you're a coward a camera what no i turned it on i the whole time keep it on them we have to keep i think i think literally impossible to give native american people
likela
like any reason like sizeable like meaningful land back
so i think that term is just definitely just i just i don't agree with it but m
i think there's definitely ways we can help them out with resources
because obviously alcoholism is like
fucking up the native american communities
so we definitely needs to like
given better resources to do with that i theink i think anything
that we should like
it will undo the fact that reservations are run by
people on the reservation themselves and have no oversight by the state or
w way wait way wait wll wait did you say land back is stupid like do you even know what land back is like what the movement is about
no i'm saying like giving land back to native americans like
this
like we sure w wait wait wait wait two years
answereds question sure but the issue the issue isn't that land back is is giving physically land back to people necessarily right it's about preserving people's culture and giving them opportunities to preserve their culture and their spiritual sights and their cultural like sights right it's not
they have the operate like i went to washington a few years ago there's this giant native cultural museum it's fucking great all right
we're not
it's like nobody's running in
and just fining every single fuck in
and
ceramic pot that even looks like it was painted by a native american
all right and smashing it so nobody knows what they looked like
they have the ability imagining what the people saiy what the
i'm not saying you'ing this engaging with it ok nobodys saying that they can't have their culture anymore we're twenty twenty one
but they are know you are that's issue well that's right of the united states are maor the com trying to i'm trying to explain but you won't let
right
so the issue is
that
americans have taken
a
specific interest in eliminating their culture historically
right and the issue is wellse what's not happening now
well yeah but if you do something i mean ically and then just stop that doesn't mean it stops right right so so if historically if i if i go historically and say oh well i'm going to
put all the jews in concentration caps right and now suddenly there's only like one hundred jewish people in the world you say o rain it in hads off we're provide the american government provides so much funding to native cultural arts or it's fucking crazy
how much money we give sould these bill i think it's justified it's good shuld was it doesn't matter it doesn't matter how much money you give them right if you don't actively
then le's s ner
what do you mean by lett them preserve their culture are the feds coming in and chopping off their braids like we used to do in the in the eighteenh thirties
no it's su
we should make sure we uphld the deals
that we gave to these individuals
period
i do not see wh i do not see i do not see why that is such a controversial perspective and the supreme court even upheld this we should probably make sure whatever deals is the united states government we had with these communities that we uphold that and i think having the excuse of time
isn't necessarily a good one
so the dakota access pipeline that was the last major so what yeaes so the dakota access pipeline that was the last major indigenous and like protest right that happened in america
ass i know yes that wasn it asolut right and being in indiana corn country where i'm from which is pretty far away from that place
they the biggest union the biggest independent union police union
what they did was they were like hey cops if you guys want
time and a half for like a few weeks come on over to south dakota man we got hell of money they were literally cops as far as ohio
traveling over to dakota
just to help
bash some indigenous people
so they could
billed a pipe
from canada you know just to
shoot some refined oil across their own landen you have big corporations having their own interest and then indgous people don't matter but ok wellsin the a just that thh give the money and what that relate so like if you're going to say oh let's like uphold the deals you still have a ton of cops who are going to be like hell yeah i want to get paid extra money to ride a horse and throw mace and frozen freezing water at people in winter you know it's insane there's a
more than enough americans whoill gladly get paid
to do evil shit
doesn't matter if they're indigenous or not
but they grow titue
you're such what are we supposed to do like take all of the midwest and give it back to
legal entities that no longer i don't think that ask when joe says we should uphold the old treaties those are treaties that like granted like millions of acreage of land that is already populated by americans right now where we ca those regions how much how much a populated by people isn't like one percent of the is populated by people i ever seenking midwest we
you want right now it'sly r bck
so you are saying you lanback we're going to take landizens you rely people
who probably coming on ve saying that land back isn't literally given physical i back wh now you're saying it is
i could i don't think ever articulated his point i think you talk into specifically jo wis you said we should treaties are you s sd old treaties use you puting ol you said we seems like it like it seems like it seems like some people in this conversation don't even know about mcgrip the oklahoma but that's ok wecn still talk about pipelines
i mean it seems like
predominantly there seems to be a gap in knowledge in the conversation i me play all i'm not trying to edmt you of have you fuck and pay me before that happens oll so i darll at a point
dary had a conversation had a point about land back about they're not literally talking about lmd back and then when he was then like someone asked for him the labrary and that never happened so maybe he should elaborate and then that might help with the conversation
that
so land back depending on who you ask quite
land back mostly just means preservation of culture now that can mean many different things depending on the tribe that you're asking right sometimes it's something as simple as just having resources to be able to teach the language right
so have like teaching language in the schools that they attend right the public schools or having options to teach language that's not spending funding ar
sure i helped ou i helped out a native hawaiian organization that wanted to make a hawaiian nlative language mandatory and the education system
something is fucking stupid that if you're in hawaii
or you're a native
and you have to go and learn fucking french or spanish in the public education system before you're allowed to learn your own traditional language that is gum
that's not
that sounds like something you could advocate for communy based you know based on whatever community you're in and you don't have to start shouting land back protest all of this american show
sure but that's not we that's what land that's a part of land back right if you go and read what the activists are actually saying about land back right like in most cases they're not actually saying we want control of ninety nine percent in this thing where they have a dumb souting overarching term and it's actually meant to describe fifty million other policy positions they might want to do
can you advocate for things separately so like the crazy people who want to steal land from american citizens
and give it to native people they can have the steel end from americans' movement
and then if you want to have educational movements to help people teach their native language we can have us sten worse let go and the dar you
yeah
wait
the left isn't monolithic nor are these communities so every community is going to have different grievances
with these systems like yes there's going to be educational grievances yes there's going to be economic grievances yes there's going to be social grievances and every community is going have different grievances based on where you are
and based on their relationship with the system but like i i feel like it's like a very normal
thing to understand
and probably understandably probab probably and probably not paying attention to whatever the national conversation is would be more productive would be more productive
like why are i trying to listen to the nw why are we trying to why are we trying to why are we trying to listen to the national narrative on something that we know isn't monolithic
like what the national narrative is
everybody to that's how it becomes a national conversation cheshireing you understand do you understand that there are no national indigenous people right there are many different indigenous people all over the america so do you think individual grievances is fine instead of having one name that sounds like you just want to take land away from american citizens
and give it to native you jo you jus go for missing just missing
listen
the issue here cheshire isn't that the name
may be confusing to you right the issue is that you don't bother with asking people asking the people who are who are activists for this what they actually mean with the name and what their policyln't tellus because a one taking land away from people and then ten minutes later you said oh actually yeah we can't take land away from people and give it back to the natives wait wait do you have do you have a hearing problem i'm serious i'm serious
i listed many different things that it could be
depending on the activists that you ask right giving some specific parts of land
transferring ownership back to those people because they have specific cultural spiritual significance right that might be part of it but mostly that's not really what people ask for right what people ask for is just different parts of named after the most insignificant part but it doesn't matter but it does holl land land sm then you would have the same issue wait the issue wait the issue isn't what it's name
name right because now i've already explained to you what some of the tenants are depending on who you ask w but you still keep going on that name because
you can't actually argue against the tenants because there we agree i actouald just th just king a fk up one at a time
i'm just saying the only reason why you keep harping on this point is because you can't actually address the actual substance of the argument you're just attracting as wen i said language education is good and i've advocated for it before in the past
gre how do you keep attalkinganyone would be a go soluion is like land form based on internationalist focking principles
integration of nations
but becoming a nation different nations conqrete including i would assume even like as far as i know i would consider black people in the united states also separate
right
getting them as a constitutional people integrating him into society that way through land reform and through all the other reforms economic so we should just pres them all to be american citizens so they can have all theo you know know the americans overall but they all have their all constitutional people in their own sense they have the right to their own cultural is the constitutional people mean
constitutional people mean that like you might be a part of like a brother like for example yugoslavia this was the case
rd you had srbs crots whatever
well that was a that was the heart iues that wasn't
the ba with the leck go on let's jo go
ben that you're talking about the idea that
people have rights and liberties recognized within their constitution is that we're talking about
yes
and bu red sos the puerto ricans could be
yeah puerto ricans could be example of that in the states yes
yes
i ok that there is an indigenous streamer his name's las sui
i'm going to go ahead and put that in the chat
i've wasahed him a little bit and i've not once ever heard him say the term land back
ok were signal good virtue signal trom ho
let let let's not logic go and then we're going to do some wrapping up closing statements and then we are going to vote
to kick out the worst
idiot in this call
d go ahead oka
i was going to say like you get these deranged twitter leftoys and they say oh the white people take the land and give it back b ba like these are fucking deranged twitter idiots right
um if you're actually engaged with like uh you know what what the people are saying like the people that actually talk about this and they're not talking about that they're not talking about sending people you know on boats back to the fucking uk and i'll be honest with you i don't want a bunch of fucking yankoids turning up on my shores
what that
bking cheeseburger munche in fuckers i don't want that shit so yeah i don't want that either right
i don't know it's crazy i think the people need to just
chill out and actually enage the ideas rather than a twitter twitter bushit
yeah federalism ok so anna closing remarks and make it quick
yeah i don't know
um
i don't really know too much about this and it's closing remarks i don't re
s in remarks ok so as i said federal federalism recognize all these nations under internationalist view right like
all these people have the right
as a charm
closing remarks are way are based indigenous people are also based
jid did you want to do another closing remark or is that the final one
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all right arrio closing statement
h i think i've sed my peace i think uh cheshire heo lewis the same man uh joe lewis is based
america should recognize
pass some present treaties if you have a problem with them being too old
we should probably come back to the table and write new ones
you are right closing statements
ah it shouldn't be called land back if
you don't
the main focus of it isn't giving actual impact
cheshire
closing statements
native american rights are good and they should have all the rights that any other american citizen has under the constitution going after incredibly popular american shit
and wondering why nobody likes you for it is sort of like a common
american lefty behavior so i understand why joe lewis wants to do that shit but honestly it's a waste of time
i
for mods spam the poor in the chat
because we are now going to be
voting who to keep
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i redy shoud the fuck up
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is the people's
champion of the round
cat
in the bottom two
are
ya right and dario
which one are you going to be
ing
all right you know it
normally i would pick drio but he's a fellow american now
wait are right where are you from
i'm from new york city
oh o dario you're you're an immigrant
i'm oservative i don't like you people true true
i emmigrated here in one thousand nine hundred nine
damnll each one of you make an argument a why you should stay
pick me you italian bitch
i'm just warming up i even th crazy i was running what's the next topic going to be
shut the fock up and pick
i think i'll get more content yelling at dario so you're right i sent you a friend request but i'm going to have to ask you to leave youre right i love you your way all right are you shot out thing see thing
uh yeah it's yeah right no no this is soi fun i st i had to do anything something to like
after the city is but im
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uh thanks for having me and uh fuck you daryo
see you later you all wright
if it was between your i would have picked you right i hilarious the entire chat fuking his and shut the fuck up i don't know where you got this idea you could just talk
anyway
the next topic
mississippi will be
passing a new abortion law that makes most abortions illegal after fifteen weeks of pregnancy
two months earlier than the row
be wade
decision it was enacted in twenty eighteen and ins december of this year it is heading to the supreme court to see if it violates
row v wad
is the mississippi
no
a violation of the rights
and liberties of the american public or does it merely protect
life
itself
one
it sometimes i forget that america is an actual third world country that still doesn't
respect women's right to choose like seriously it's actually insane
no it's is about the woman's right to choose it's about the grandmother's right to choose to have grandchildren
that's what it's about
everyone shut up and let the cat speak shut up the cat speak
i have a feeling it's going to be everyone against me now but i am i
iy
i'm pretty pro like the heartfeatles started getting pushed
oh god
oh that the ones are getting pushed i think
um
if the one thing the american government is supposed to do for its citizens is to protect their lives
and i think i
abortions have sort of gotten out of hand
i think there are some states which are which are the same
i
a few democrat states whi have been saying that abortions are right up a to
literally the date of birth
i
i'd have to look more than mississippi
this is my i wan it one at a time so first
anna of firswalll just oar finish
then anna will come at him then chad and then chesar will respond
right
so i'd have to look more the mississippi bill i think states if they have a more religious population that thinks this is murder and they do not want it to be in their state they have the right to do that
i personally think it's murder on a moral level i think
if anything the state should be protecting infants the most
because they are the people who are
the least able to defend themselves especially when they're in the womb
i
so yeah yeah pro life i guess
citizens
wait since when we're ft as a citizens i'm just curious respects people whether or not they're citizens
wait but you said all citizens have rights right american the a memerican people should protect people's lives in general
i think they're going there are people who are guaranteed sse are pzre let's sid let's sd go then dario and then just sarker respond
should have
anna did you go yet
no a go go
well i mean
it obviously does violate ro v wade first of all like
what the what mississippi is uh passing
and like that crazy shoitld that happen in alabama i don't even know how they passed that but
um
why why would you why what's with that what's the significance of like the heartbeat what why does that matter
i think it it's hard it's a very hard philosophical question to decide when someone's life begins and i think
a separate heartbeat is probably a good cutoff point it's very hy
well because the question is subjective and i think that is the best
the exact answer we could give to a subjective question i personally think that once you have your own separate heartbeat
i think it's fair to say that you're a living organism
and you probably deserve some because your heartbeats literally fuck and pumping
ll right
loo i understand what your call de you don't know what you don't know life is like ok
im
we i think for youy have but these are humans these are just normal things you you know but we wouldn't even call i guess what i'm confused about is that a si of recognizes a fetus
at the point that these laws are getting introduced and even the idea of like when you do a scan and there's this heartbeat the hertbeat is manufactured by the system
am i say the system literally the system that they used to track it
like we know this like a fetal heartbeat is more of a legal term than a medical one
so why so like why are we attaching so much weight on a med im not medical term and trying to turn this legal term into a physical reality when it isn't
well clearly it's a physical reality if we can make policy based on g term futal harpy is a legal term yeah should we're talking about law of course going to become a legal term
i think that it's probably one of the better places we can choose to set the cutof
right one six weeks six weeks eight weeks
but there isn't a heartbeat friend
oh's enough there's enough for us to look out with the machine and say oh there's this individual now no that it's a compilation of cells is not an individual
god europ at the beginning of one are you kidding me my i used to com i used to be pretty pro choice on this matter but the whole burnie movement happened
and to be honest you know like
if you are a girl and you're like pregnant and you're like freaking the fuck out that it's going to destroy your body
like you don't have a lot of time to act and the government knows this and the government's really great
at using bureaucracy as a weapon as something called pative violence
they know this
and they slow everything down to make sure
that you have that baby because they want more americans to tax ok
so like this is this is
fundamental to rov wade this is why they pushed amy conty barrett amy coney barrett by the way literally bought children from haiti and everybody was like oh wow you're so brave thank you for sayingr children right
just like yeah abortionight we need to we need more americans we need to pump out as many kids as possible
and if it goes to the supreme court we already know and y mll thank you for your bizarre theory
no i don't i don't even know if you're pro life or pro choice after that i'm i don't even know you you gamer the term is gamer
i'm sure those kids are black in the united states
it's a puzzle i
wait you're all you're all actually you're all actually missing the fundamental point the fundamental point here is that on the neo liberal capitalist system
but the issue is that abortions
are
hurting the most vulnerable people in society
by the people who can't afford to spend their lives raising children who made a mistake
or if you if you force remove abortions and remove
the the ability for women to choose those people are the ones who are going to have issues right those people who alreadyk let me finish let me finish let me finish h ok you you can work on them most vulnerable people in the neo liberal capitalist system are those who get fucked the most by not being able to
be pro choice right by not being able to choose if we were living
in an actual an actual first world country another third world country these people would be taken care of by the state
or by local communities to to such that having a children wouldn't financially ruin them and ruin their lives right but given
that america is a neo liberal capitalist hellhol
that means that pro choice is the only moral position you can have
yeah how how do i tae how do it reduce abortions
even if you're pro life
i support socialism
support socialism nationalis the banks
take everything and people will have social stability they want to have theirs i think we should i think there should be more welfare for children i'm very pro child welfare and i think there should be better access to sex education and contraceptives
right that's all fine if you
i do believe you should have the choice to have a child
be don't have the choice to murder it if it becomes inconvenient after you've conceived it right that's not a choice you can make talking about murdering children talking about murdering children
like why do you bring this up you're just loading these terms so that you can get like the embotional w you describes the same sh is the same sh of the even jok christian as well
listen if you actually cared about children chesharkad you would support socialism
that's what you would support
le i want to make a point okk throug siday that was really fucking stupid ok about the oll dead demon rats let in people fucking abougt kids as soon as theut when they date the fucking whatever
that's complete bullshit right the whole point of that bill is that if there's an issue
that affects the mother's life
even up to the point of the baby being born
if an abortion is absolutely necessary to save a mother's life
then that can happen if the baby to be born another way right so it's not as if they're like you know going oh what you've changed your mind now and you' just about to have the baby let's abort it no problem let's put it in the blender
that they're saying that like if it's a risk to your life there's no other choice then we don't want the youd also said it was if it was a risk to your mental stability
which i find very odd that seems very subjective
i do believe that if there's that's if it's a matter no i don't think there's any measurement where it may harm me emotionally to the point you can just mer eat someone else off the planet
im
otherwise i think i' have an argument for getting i think i'd have an argument for eating dario and putting him in the fuck and blender
in a video game in a video game everyones in the fug up everyone sut up everyone s the fug up
everyone sut the fok up jest shire in a video game
yes in a video game in a video game was ak and don't say that's it again
ok im sorry i have a
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it just goes to show that
you're not g li you're gro fuck is this
well no so people like cheshire and the are not pro life there pro human husbandry
i just i justd you i was pro child welfare i think it's if a person if it's a physical medical necessity i think to not allow them to get an abortion would sentially be forre suicide so they should get the abortion in the case
and i think there should be more welfare for single mothers and i think there should be more access to sexual education
and contraceptives
how can you look at all that and say you don't care for life you just want to control
it's later you just explained human husband care
about having more americans you don't care about their quality i what aout this blad more welfare say i don't care about the quality of their life
ire you just because i support the expansion of something doesn't necessarily mean that expansion is going to be in that good
we'd have to probably look have if you expand all not probably you would probably have to look at what you actually advocate for specifically and then we can tackle that but that's going to take forever i think the expansion of welfare sex education a contraceptions we can guess is going to be a that good in that a case right
and what i tell you what to it was i'm not a fuk communist you dom fucker and turn your camera on you fucking coward so like what within wellire expansion do you support like what what program do you think is insufficient that will be expanded upon so much so that we can all be pro choice
or it gets like pro death chop child tax credit and state and state provided child care if you're aare what do you mean by state provided child care giving like i don't know subsidizing daycre expenditures so people subsidizing daycre do you do you support the federal
like let's say i'm going to a hypothetical and see where you a on this will find a disagreement there because you're a fucking hypocrite i support
the federal government
completely covering the cost
for
pre k education
period
is that something you support
yeah sure
ok do you support it extending from k through five where what i mean by k through five is that if you have a child the government supplements the cost and helps you supplement the cost of caring for your child
up until their twelfth birthday
is that something you support
yeah
would you extend that to where i want it to be which is seventeen
seventeen
yeah sure what's what's the term when something is um
i mey when i gt all eave it i'll be a much more i'll make it much more direct because i know you fucking you fucking people who aren' born in this country take a lot of time i think about this shit so i'll weigh it out very mean saying i'm saying that and if you have a child
born in the united states
the federal government
makes the conscious and dedicated effort
to make sure that that child is taken care of where there an any type of insufficiency whether that be for their health so that means like
giving them access to he health care that the parents can afford education all of these things up until their seventeenth birthday
yeap
wh'y not eighteen that's weird
because eighteen year legal adults in the united states
yeah but like you said up until their seventeenth birthday so whych wouldn' it be up until the the completion of their seven so that that's the completion of their seventeenth birthda
oh this is going so far we are wrapping this topic up n boring fuk a topic thank you all for that yes and i war what is your closing statement
i think that we should go by when i
and
like fetuses feel pain not heart beat
i think that's probably a better i
area where we could cut off
um like in a
abortion when a baby
then
w control women's bodies some more cheshire cat
you really like to go wenm i do that every night ok
nice ok so oh my god so anyway
yeah uh i'm pro the pro abortion uh even if you want to ban them it's use useless you can't really ban them
the way you fix this is by reforming society in general making sure that kids can draw grow up and have
people drop
ar
nationaliz with ever
do whatever the fuck you want with your body do whatever
you want with your body that applies to men
and women
and sorry all the men are super butt hurt that women get to do a little something extra little child are gross a little child murder
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chud magic
you'd better not be having any sex dude
let let the englishman speak for god's sake go ahead yeahd representation thank you
um yeah i think that like obviously it's you know barbarism the way that uh abortion rights are treated in the united states absolutely crazy in the u k uh you know they're they're they're legal they're safe we don't receive the have any massive problems of mass abortions
ho think i should be the saveor america sut the shit out
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s and all i'm saying is if you've ever spent one minute on twitter
you will be pro choice
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these bills and lass in the challenger of the wade and we'll see what happens when the court gets it
cheshire cat
so i think we should it's bysmal that we don't support our children more once they're born and that's a terrible thing but on a moral level i think we do need to be use to be some legitimate cut off to abortions where i do think it's murder
that's
basically my closing but you know we should offer welfare to single mothers to children you know make sure that they're paid for and they have a good productive life
after theyir born and now
we are going to have a vote to decide
who is the most weak andathetic scum
in this call
mods linked the fuck and vote in the chack
yes those names those names arbole arbo one me dara
butd spend that link
so aparentlyt you want to join y your community what i think really i understand you're into mongol shit so maybe we can we could set up a community of people shart off
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yah that i call i called it the cia and that the reason i was late to this chap is because i called it the cia and made them to we are done voting and once again
chesshire is the people the cha
cheshire between dario and charmhole
which one is going to be
is strown and thrown into the pits of the khans defeated
all right wait
charmhole what are you politically are i just like a stoner libertarian like
the fuck are you
no just
focus on
their performance choose one of two
there don't interview them just choose
all right wrong yeah no
get rid of daria i want some
i want something
occupied lemonade what an unbelievable development
dario darrio first tell us tell us jut a fuck up
who stalping
dario
tell us why
tell us why
you had such an abysmal performance tonight
c i
what the fuck you laught absolute cowardice
the c a got him
ay we are now entering
dangerous waters
so the who has just announced
first the new variant but they didn't like the name
and the next name was the z variant and they didn't like that name
so now they're calling it
the ormical variant
what is it focking called it's called oicron the omicn
the amicron variant
so we saw the delta variant and now the amic omnicron
marian
now the question stands
do the times require more
medical lockdowns crackdowns and mandates on part of the government
to get this under control or
do the emergence of these variants suggest
that we don't even know what we're up against in the first place
are you pro mandate
or against
five
welcome mandate
pparently the people who are naming these new diseases are all watching
fucking gundam anime ha's a spooky fucking name
the inderstand of the places where its come from is got a low vaccination rate now look
i'm not a fucking massive vaccine fucking cock sucker or whatever right
but i think there is a question of this vaccine does seem to be effective how do we get people to take it i'm not pro mandate i think that's kind of cringe
um but but how do we do it you know um i think that yeah it presents a risk if you let these uh viruses go through different people who one vaccinated and it you know
fucking turns into these crazy variants we've got to find a way to control that i don't know i forgot the answer but yeah i think like
you know state lockdowns are probably a good way to deal with there's any uprising in infection rates
that seems to be an effective way to deal with the
increases not a fan of them but it is what it is i don't know that's my basic take
it's all the way to control the proletariat
i mean it's a real nb's nobody said listen john you fucking little bitch you talk about the proletariat rights the proletariat that're out there fucking at risk
catching the fucking disease right arey i don't know anybody who is one one everyone
if people in the home a theyre safe
they said char conscert very often against it right and the reason why is because these lockdowns are done at their expense
right if are going to have lockdowns then peoplell have to live
right and if you don't give them shat
the you know then of course they're going to be against lockdowns
and we have to such this situation as a pandemic
so you provide people but unfortunate america america this is like crazy right all of this is communism right so we can have that
right
but
that is the way right if you want to fix this china di this like they they' locked down entire city
the they managed the ploy everything people needed there to survive and that was it
right they dealt with it in the in the first what one two months
' organization into their homes
like they were doing some crazy fucking shit in china yet they were doing crazy shit but look at it it had resu and
so yeah but again like i don't i know a ton of people who got covid i don't know anybody who died to it
i don't think it's as bad as everybody says it is
f it however
you're fully shit charma what you're talking about i know people that fucking di didn't die from it hoests my way way we have a surprise guinst in comoing
since we've already voted they will not be on the ballot to be voted for but they will be here
to add some spice
to the mix
chil bunny
dog
hello
you the girls you know she's tell us where you lie on the ideus looked it up i just did the test i am considered a
i'm like a sideline or a stressed sideliner i don't know
what i'm here i'm considered a stressed sideliner i can't make ou r miny national treasure is what you are interesting oh can i talk about a topic earlier you guys said because you were talking about abortion earlier
and someone included like oh that state's religious isn't there supposed to be a separation of state and religion so like i didn't really fuck with that answer
wellth the state is secular the people are not the state is not supposed to respect
individual religions we can't have a state religion but i think if it's a voting population that is fairly conservative and religious i mean
it's weird to tell them that you're not allowed to vote based on what could possibly be
your most important belief
fh
oky
all right continuing where we left off go ahead sond
um
yes sure so i think i think that's a really valid point and i totally agree that lockdowns have to come with a strong safety net or giving what the people what they need
i'm locking them up and getting it so they're struggling with nothing without resources without infrastructure is bad
um i think there's you know sufficient m
you know resources available in these countries that that can be done
um ya i think i think
lockdown is the evidence is clear
lockdowns squash these things like a bug if people are locked in the homes and not around spreading it
so do that with a safetyer and i think you fuck offin
yeah you know we should really lock downh people from jaywalking and like
you know there should be aic down in america because of all the shootings right like nobody should leave their house
as you might g ting to take you can't catch your shoeing count you fucking idiot you can't get i walk out i just show you walked out damn and i caught a glock
ust wating what you're not fash enough
just a fucking idio i don't know if you
i just first you know like thiso amning me we're talking aot you know do't do money moy this is good this is good this is good butunny listen to me this is a man who turned off his canus is a cowar this is i want i want the camel and i love fat pussy bring it i'm all for putting australia in canada on knockdown go right ahead but not reading glori we can are ead ho caing agree that mary isn
these things that are
these aren't mandates first off for a lot of these areas like i think
unless you can think of another solution outside of get vaccinated or get tested it appears like
the
unless somebody has something else there like is there a third option
outside of
get get vaccinated or
be subject to testing
that you mean you mean a mandate it
i guess you could call that a mandate but
i got
a three mandates i don't know man like
i'm of the camp that those two options are the only ones i think are presentable
that would involve a
to help
mitigate the spread
but that's just me
i think we should look to our lord and savior de santez on how he has been managing florida and i think as long as the state encourages people to get vaccines they seem to do it on their own volition
i guess booster shots are going to be a thing whether or not we like it
i don't i think we should cut off
a non citizen movement from the countries that are affected with the new scary variance with the spooky name
and we should just
see what happens if we have to respond to it and certain ways then we have to but you know it should be
it should be at the cost of the american worker should be at the cost of the large corporations and all of you know the lefty speak so i don't get ousted the next vote
i mat
you have a good i'll go go that so far and i would avia not to do that right i don't know man no state has done a good job a this so i don't think even putting to any state is some bastion is like
them handling is a good thing i mean in't know if you're doing that i mean you're always mean and so
i am a cat so i do find you
you w a cat mother fucker like you're just a dude on the you nw who doesn't want to turn his cam on and sends d m so the one girl that you think is cute on the pa that like that ok i just are how you're getting all these votes
are you going all these bots you're boding and i know you are
i' know i don't have a technology to bout it ok
ha fucking covert wasn fucking posturing eh
y is o so fucking mad
oh when i brought it up you got a robot hurt churd
we i was because i don't know if you play like a character of the most deranged mentally ill person on twitch and you've come onto the paddle for that reason
i so you know
there's nothing angloids love policing more than day tom wll ras other than like health right oh time you also love to police time right you have to be on time for everything
no it's the same thing look i was there
on the bernie campaign going door to door when koved first dropped and every single little soy bernie was like oh go home stay home it's not even in america yet and everybody's like don't go out and vote for bernie just stay home you're going to die and not like again and old moy
my tuking brother my fucking my fucking brother who didn't have a single day off
during the pandemic gave my mother coveed and killed her so i don't like what are we talking about right now
i really saw what s sor like
w i'm read to hear that one if it wasn't for covert are you that delusional
no it's
it's facts it's just how it happened well there were other factors too like them paying the you know democrats spending a billion dollars to beat eim
but no staying on topic spending people on the ticket staying on the topic of covit i'm saying
that the reason wy one of the reasons why he lost is because they freaked out about it just like chud's freaking out about it now
just like casey tran got banned off twitch
her joking about it when it was it wasn't even in america yet
she got banned
because she was like it's real cap cap cap right and everybody was like