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2026-06-22T02:26:47+00:00
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What's up, bro.
I appreciate you.
Midwest Singh with the 25.
Thank you so much, bro.
I appreciate you. Comrade Thomas with the 25. Thank you so much, bro. I appreciate you.
Comrade Thomas with the five. What's going on, man? How are we doing tonight?
Let's get the fucking energy up in here. What the fuck is this bullshit?
Sun Gorilla right now. We got to do Sun Gorilla March right now. What the fuck is this bullshit? Sun Gorilla right now.
We got to do Sun Gorilla March right now.
What the fuck is this low energy?
Bullshit.
I didn't tell y'all it was going to be a low energy night.
I told you it was going to be high energy.
Fuck are we doing?
Lacking behind.
Fuck is up, y'all. What's is up y'all
what's up y'all
your
con is back
and we uh got we got a lot
of drama today
we got a lot of things they're saying about me on Reddit.
Oh no.
Oh, no.
The things that they're saying about me on Reddit,
the things that's going on on Reddit,
you don't see what they're saying on Reddit?
About Minecraft?
About all the,
the queer craft?
What's up, y'all?
I got actually a lot of serious things
to talk about tonight. We're going to hit it off
with the debates.
Maybe we'll do a little bit of Reddit React.
But I don't know.
Like, should I really just start bullying retarded people on my streams?
At what point are we just going into special education and bullying people?
Like, I don't know.
You know, do people need the root awakening?
Do people need the root awakening about how stupid these people are constantly on a
continuous basis?
Because I'm going to be, okay, I'm going to do like the calculating cynical thing.
I kind of do see it like a pipeline. Like, this is how we used to grow, you know?
We used to just like troll leftists. And then a lot of them who never were familiar with us would do their own research and due diligence,
look us up, find out who we are, and we would filter out all the non-weird people among them,
and they would just join us because they have no incentive to be against us.
If you're actually a normal, like,
mentally sane person,
then, and you are an ML,
then you're probably going to fuck with us, right?
So it's like, it's kind of just a way to squeeze
out any possible normal,
neutral person who
frequents those kinds of communities.
If I just keep reacting to them
and they keep talking about me
and I just keep doing that,
that's just kind of hot,
that was the model of growth for a long time.
Now granted, that was the OG model of growth,
which I kind of stopped doing because I was like, okay, let's be a little more,
let's have a more productive, less negative one. But I'm just kind of feeling like, well,
we're kind of are entering the infrared renaissance. So we should milk these people as much as we
can, maybe, until we get our own pipelines going and stuff.
It probably won't hurt to milk these people.
And I also have been doing some contemplation.
I've been doing some thinking.
I've been doing some soul searching.
And I realize something, guys.
It was brought to my attention that I had said something quite mean.
I said that if you're a Redditor, you should kill yourself.
And I did a lot of thinking about it.
And I've been thinking and I've been, you know, I've been rocking back and forth, just
considering the harm of my words and all these people who might already be struggling with
mental issues and how Reddit is a safe haven for many people. And I was just kind of
thinking to myself about, you know, the impact of the words that I said that if you're a
redditor, you should kill yourself. And the more that I thought about about it the more that i just sat down and
started thinking about these things and considering how it might harm people and potentially hurt
them and in their feelings in some kind of way.
I'm left with only one conclusion, and I wanted to open up the stream talking about it. I wanted an opportunity to kind of just come clean about being able to talk about what I said.
And my sincere and honest reflection of the words that I said that if you're a
redditor, you should kill yourself, is that you really should. You really should, though.
You really should.
I thought about it a lot. It's not like I didn't think about it. Oh, it was the heat of the moment.
But I did think about it. And I was like, well, you're kind of a net negative on humanity, to be honest.
And you just, you know,
if this is the path you insist on going on,
then the path should end with a bang,
so to speak, right?
It's like you are a redder,
you are not even human in my eyes
I don't see Reddit I don't have to constitutionally
see Redditors as human beings in my own
subjective worldview I don't have
to see them as human I don't see them as human
I see them as deeply stupid people
deeply conformist people I see them as deeply like people deeply conformist people i see them as deep deeply like just
just just just so like they're fucking much of limp-risted
pussies with no backbones they just follow
whatever the up dude you know wherever the wind goes
that's where they go.
I could not think of a more disgusting, like, retarded.
Like, sir, this is a Wendy's.
It's like, well, kill yourself, you know.
Sir, this is a Wendy's, and it's like, sir, kill yourself.
Here's a Dave's double shotgun in a video game for you to take and eat that.
That's my Wendy's to you, right?
And, you know, look, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I can tolerate people being retarded, but if you keep screaming in my ear how retarded you are, eventually I'm just going to tell you what I think, which is that just leave, just go, just leave this Earth, leave this planet. There's no reason for you to be around if you're a redditor.
There's no reason for you to continue pretending like there's a future for you that that is
somehow fulfilling as a human being, that you have a purpose in your life somehow. You're
simulating a human being. It's bad enough that AI feeds off of Reddit,
but you're feeding into the AI a bunch of weird fucking people who don't even act human, but
simulate what they think is normal and human. And that's how a, that's why, you know why AI is so insufferable?
The reason AI is insufferable
is because AI is being trained on people
who are not even like authentically human themselves.
These people are more robotic than AI itself
and they just simulate humanity.
They just simulate what it seems like a human being is
they don't actually know,
they don't have any actual experience being human in any kind of way,
but they're just like kind of looking
shoulder to shoulder like, um, arm, um, this is a Wendy, sir. It's like, you're not human. You're not
human. And, you know, I just i i just have to say that we're going to cover it we're
going to be looking through the the reddit and um you know checking that whole thing out but i do
have to say that i'm only doing it to
shamelessly squeeze these people
of every I mean like come on
there's a pipeline there for sure
there's a pipeline to be gained for sure
but I do have more important things
to talk about and I just probably
will lead with those things. By talking directly about
Cuba. Now, if you don't know the news, Cuba is undergoing a reform and opening up supposedly. I don't
know why people are comparing this to China.
The conditions of China's reform and opening up were very different.
But I want to talk about something that I do think the people who make this meme should kill themselves in a video game or in real life.
The memes that I see, even it's just a joke, even as a joke, even just as a meme, even if people are not serious, even if they're just saying it to be a little, you know, to play with their academic knowledge that they learn in school or something, they're vague familiar, even to flex. I'm into these niche, I think. I fucking hate the people who think there's some kind of relationship
between Deng Xiaoping and
Bukharan. I am
really fucking triggered by the association
of China's reform and opening up
and of Dengism with
Bukharin. Triggers the fuck out of me.
Every time I see it, I get so fucking angry,
and I want to crash out every single fucking time. And to teach you some of the rudiments of
history, because a lot of people aren't familiar with that, in the USSR Bucharan
was he's vaguely remembered as the guy who
wanted markets in Russia so people just
close the book on the fact that this is a guy who was open to a market economy
in the context of the USSR or Russia, and therefore,
you know, China is fulfilling Bucharan's theory as opposed to Stalin's.
And the thing that makes me disgusted by this is that these people don't understand the difference between politics and economics. They don't understand that what was at stake in the USSR wasn't about whether markets should be permitted to exist, but the political implications of that. Okay? So in the USSR in the 20s, in the early
period, you had an issue where a very strong centralized Soviet state with socialist and Soviet institutions
consolidated in the centers, you know, in the urban centers and in the urban core.
That was the site of the state dictatorship, okay?
And that was the place where the actual Soviet power was functionally making decisions and ruling over the country.
Now, the peasants were still on the periphery.
They were mainly outside of this strong, centralized proletarian dictatorship, so to speak, right?
Which, by the way, was pretty bereft of
proletarians because most of them had died during the Civil War, right? A lot of people don't know that.
So, please, let's not talk about the NEP. You're triggering the fuck out of me.
Like, no Cuba's not undergoing the NEP.
This is, you can't fucking compare these completely different scenarios.
This is exactly what I'm fucking talking about.
It is so fucking lazy.
It is so devoid of any curiosity.
It's just so like,
I don't know, it vaguely looks similar.
It's the same thing.
I'm trying to fucking explain to you why it's not.
Anyone have fucking patience.
Holy fuck.
Okay?
Now, what was going on was that the peasant economy basically still had patterns and
habits that were a combination of older agrarian practices that immediately followed the abolition of serfdom, as well as the Stolipin reforms.
So there was a peasant civil society, so to speak, where there were no institutions whatsoever, except the ones that were created under the Tsar that had become
immersed into civil society. And there was a massive disconnection between the central
Soviet power and what was going on in the countryside, right?
Peasants did not participate in the state dictatorship in any kind of way.
They didn't participate in the process of socialist construction.
All of that was happening directly at the site of state power.
Moscow, you know, Leningrad, the exact capitals from which Soviet rule was being projected outward, right?
So there were political implications of the right deviation and the left deviation.
And what they had in common was that they wanted to exclude the peasants from the process of socialist construction and proletarian dictatorship. Why? Because they regarded the peasants as too backward.
Okay. So Trotsky's line is very well known. If you don't know what it is, Trotsky
basically thought Bolsheviks had to hunker down in these urbanoid citadels of power and control,
where all the industry was, where all the like urban techniques and special you know specialists were and there was some
proletarians i guess that remained after the civil war trotsky would you know overinflate that
and that they need to exercise this really you, strict dictatorship over these barbaric peasants surrounding the center who could not be trusted in any kind of way, who were inherently regarded as reactionary, backward, and capable of dragging the USSR and Russia back into the pre-revolutionary
period, right? So Trotsky wanted this urbanoid Benjamin Netanyahu style dictatorship over like the 90%
Russian peasant
majority. It's like he wanted to
turn the urban centers into Israel
and he wanted to turn the majority
of Russians into Palestinians.
Hate to be anti-Semitic, but these are the facts.
Now, Bukharin was the same thing, but he just had a different strategy to handle what he
accepted was the same issue.
Bukharan said, we're going to stay here in our hunkered down isolated urban centers
with our socialist institutions
with our old Bolsheviks
with our glasses wearing gatekeepers
and over there we're going
to compromise with the peasants
by letting the coolocks get fat
and do whatever the fuck they want let the peasants. By letting the Kulaks get fat and do whatever the fuck they
want, let the peasants go
and just, you know, remain
basically kind of abandoned
and stay outside of the centers
of power while they develop
and become proletarianized
and only when they become sufficiently developed can we
high up go down and bring them up to us in so many words that was bucarin's idea the the point of
the nEP was not simply to tolerate and allow markets it was a specific strategy
to contain and handle the peasants and exclude them from the construction of socialism and
soviet democracy right so bucarin and trotsky were exactly the same in terms of their class position.
They just had different strategies of gatekeeping the center and excluding the peasants from socialist construction.
Now, Stalin's, and there's also other issues, Russia did not have an industrial
system at all, right? It had some rudiments of industry in the center. It had some kind of, you know,
development that was in proximity
to the urban center.
It had institutions of state dictatorship.
But there was no national industrial system.
The economy had not been integrated
into one totality, right?
And so there was this acute separation between the center of rule and the reality of the
majority of the country.
And Bucharan's idea is that that's okay.
We effectively need to have an alliance with Kulak landlords, basically,
and that's the alliance of workers and peasants.
They'll figure their thing out.
We'll hunker down, figure our thing out here.
And we'll come to some kind of understanding.
And out of, you know, we will jointly, we will, effectively, what did that amount to, though?
We're going to negotiate our economic sovereignty.
We're going to negotiate with these Kulak landlords the process of how we're going to create some kind of national industrial system and industrialization.
But we're going to cede the economic sovereignty to these Kulak themselves, they were gatekeepers in the
countryside. And, you know, we'll just have to negotiate with them, right? And in this way,
you know, basically, you will have to pass through these like feudal lords, would be feudal lords to industrialize the economy and the country.
That's effectively a form of political power, okay?
So Bukharin did not believe in this sovereignty of the proletarian
dictatorship. Trotsky, on the other hand, claimed to believe in the sovereignty of the proletarian
dictatorship, but he wanted to declare war on the peasants. He wanted to go to the countryside
with the army and just fucking keep
them at bay as like, you know, uh, animals basically, right? Full Netanyahu. So Stalin's,
Stalin was the golden path. Stalin said, we will jointly build socialism with the peasants.
We're not just going to impose our urban conceits on the peasants, but what we're going to do is encourage an already existing phenomena that exists among the russian
peasants which is the cooperative movement cooperative movement emerged in the earliest days of
the russian revolution and and throughout the entire period of the 20s it was there
Stalin said we've already identified this thing
going on among the peasants called the Cooperative
Movement, and that will be how we
negotiate the terms and
conditions of building socialism
with the peasant masses. And what we're
going to do is we're going to bring the Russian
peasantry into the fold of constructing both socialism and Soviet democracy, allowing them to actually participate in it, and on terms that recognizes the actual, like, spontaneous collective formations and patterns
they were already engaged in
which were pursuant to that and which were
conducive to it, which was the peasant cooperative movement
or you know, would become the Kolkosis.
And the idea of Stalin,
this is what created the great purges and this, like, all the old Bolsheviks got killed, not only are we going to do that, once we initiate this process, we're going to build Soviet democracy comprehensively, because now we're all participating in this process of socialist
construction in one country, and we're going to promote the peasants as a fresh source
to replenish the bureaucracy. We're going to empty out these gatekeepers in the center,
and we're going to create more social mobility and opportunity for these peasants to be educated in socialist institutions, to bring their own peasant national character to our existing institutions, and allow it to be characterized by that.
And it's like sociologically, there were so many different manifestations of this.
Lysenko was one of them.
The conflict between Lysenko and the Russian scientific establishment was literally the sociological phenomena of barefoot peasants coming straight from the countryside as country bumpkins, bypassing all of these gate-kept, extremely arrogant Western-aligned institutions
that burrowed themselves in the core
and bringing with them their own
peculiar, like Russian national
peasant knowledge, right?
And that was very hideous and grotesque
to the glasses wears because Lysenko was injecting the institutions of knowledge with the wisdom of the popular majority, more or less, right?
And now, China, you see the same thing with Chinese alternative medicine, by the way.
That's another example of that.
But in any case, that's the story of what happened with Stalin.
That's why Stalin was a champion of the peasants, champion of the people, because he wanted to bring them into the process of building socialism and take that gambit trotsky was squealing and screaming saying no you're gonna ruin it they're a bunch of backward bigots they're all transphobicukharin was, you know, this cynical piece of shit who was like, no, we need to let them get raped and exploited by Kulox for 500 years before we could even consider them sapient enough to be recruited into the process of proletarian dictatorship.
And Stalin said, no, we don't know it all here in the center. We need to combine our knowledge,
combine our conceits, combine our pretenses with the democratic reality of the peasant majority in Russia.
And that's why these gatekeepers were constantly trying to kill Stalin throughout the entire 1930s.
That's why they were constantly coming at him.
That's why there was so much furious hatred and resentment
towards Stalin from within the
Bolshevik Party and from within the
centers. They hated and resented
him because Stalin's message was
effectively, you're going to
have to share power with these people
you consider inferior.
Stalin was telling these people, shout what's up, he was saying, you know, these peasants you consider backward and inferior, you're going to have to share power with them.
You're going to have to humble yourself and let these people into the party, let them into the institutions of socialist construction, and you're going to humble yourself and listen to them and hear them out, and they're going to participate in constructing our socialism.
Trotsky was going,
No, we have to go to Western Europe, where the enlightened people are.
These subhuman Asiatic peasants, they're not good enough for building.
Like that was Trotsky's entire
his rage and his hatred towards
Stalin. Was literally, he was like
no, they're stupid.
They're hogs. They're a bunch of transphobes. We hate them.
He wanted to go to Europe where all the enlightened
people were. And he fucking hated. he detested the peasants he saw them as it's the same way lip tards see american rednecks or something right so it's like the coastal marxists the ds types, and how they see the masses in the interior of the nation, of our nation, right? It's the same thing, same exact dynamic. And so that was the whole conflict going on within the Soviet Union between Stalin and Trotsky and Bukharan, right?
Like Bukharin and Trotsky were both arrogant glasses wearing Western Marxist cynics
who believed that Stalin's gambit and risk of just, we're going to build socialism on the basis of the nation that we live in and the people that we actually fucking have. We're going to be humble enough to acknowledge we don't know it all and that there is wisdom that exists among the people that we need to humble ourselves to.
We have to understand that they are good enough.
Peasants are good enough to build socialism in this country. It's almost like Stalin
was singing that German song that's viral on TikTok. Tobis got cano-sook. Tobis-Kut-Kanoog. Tobis-Kut. You are good
enough. That's what it means, right?
Tobis God, Ganoog.
Topis got good.
If you know what I'm talking about, you're really online.
Anyway, that's basically what was happening, okay, in the USSR, with the controversy and the conflict with the rest.
Autistic potato, what's going on, man?
What a great name.
What a great name, by the way.
Okay. So, Jesus Christ. what a great name what a great name by the way okay so uh jesus christ so um uh and now why do people talk about china's reform and opening up being comparable to bucharin because they're illiterate
retards who don't know China's own history.
Bukharan's reforms presuppose the national industrial system created by Mao.
Bukharan's reformed, sorry, sorry, sorry, Deng Xiaoping's reforms, presupposed the national industrial
system created by Mao. took for granted the national
infrastructure, the socialization of labor, the integration of the entire nation into one system
more or less that Mao created. Fed, what's up? So what Deng Xiaoping did is very, very different. He allowed China, the system
created under the mouth. He allowed that to tap into the world market. And I actually want to
call out people who claim that what Deng shalping did contradicts socialism that china could not possibly
be socialist i want to run a thought experiment for all the people that deny china is a socialist
country and i want to actually have a pulse on where we're at when it comes to basic knowledge, you know,
basic knowledge 101 on this topic, more or less, right?
So, um, if you're ready, if you're ready, right? Now, in a traditional Soviet style, crude form of socialist planning, which is an immature
version of socialism, by the way.
The first version of socialism, where you have
to create a national industrial system
and get it off the ground.
You kind of
have a direct managerial
dictatorship and a form of planning that says,
okay, we the people's commune, let's say, for purposes of, because Mao decentralized that system himself with the people's communes.
So let's just talk about it at the commune level.
We the people's commune own this factory or this
farm this cooperative farm and this factory and it's owned in common and it's planned in common
okay and we need these quotas now Now, here's the thing.
Every farm and factory had a manager.
Every single one had a manager, okay?
And...
Um... um every single one had a manager and um at least to some extent there's a degree of discretion
in terms of the management even at the lowest levels there's a discreet of discretion okay so when you're
managing when you're managing these socialist institutions, the manager has a degree of discretion where the state doesn't actually care
how you're doing it,
how you're catching the mice,
they just care about the output
or the people's commune.
And then you could even go a layer before.
Let's say, okay, there's a standardization
of managerial practices.
Okay, what if you're a fucking worker
at a factory and you just
have a hammer and you're just kind of smashing
a nail on something, right? And that's your job.
Edwes, what's up?
Now, this is the most extreme
example of the thing that I want to
talk about here, right? You're a worker,
you have a hammer, you're smashing something on a nail.
Okay. Now,
the exact
like muscular skeletal
movement of how you're smashing the mail, the technique you're doing, the pace at which you do it, you know, how you do it more or less, there's a degree of individual discretion there where the manager is basically like, I don't give a fuck how you do it.
You just need to fucking get it done to fulfill this quota, whatever, right?
And by the way, this doesn't presuppose a top-down model of management, but it does presuppose
that there's a degree, at least to some extent in which socialist
planners do not actually care about how something is produced.
They just care about where the output is allocated or what kind of output is being created,
what quantity of it, right?
So that's the important
thing you have to keep in mind.
Now,
why,
tell me why in principle,
it is impossible to logically extend that to
Deng Xiaoping's household responsibility system.
We don't care how you achieve the goal.
We are the one setting the goal,
but just ensure that the goal can be fulfilled. Why fundamentally is it
incompatible with socialism to take it to another step of, you know, managerial and entrepreneurial
autonomy with respect
to the fulfillment of the same goal.
You see,
you can't, where do you draw the line?
You know, if we're going to employ
a household responsibility system, if we're going to employ a household responsibility system if we're going to fundamentally
decentralize how people are putting on you know enterprises together how they're actually
um fulfilling the goals of the center more or less, why does that negate socialism?
When already, on some basis, right, there's a degree of experimental autonomy and discretion with respect to the production of outputs and goals that are set and created by the state.
So this is why saying that markets are incompatible with socialism is retarded, okay?
Because there's always going to be an extent to which central planners do not actually care about how the plan is fulfilled.
And increasing that extent doesn't negate socialism.
It actually opens up the pathways and possibilities for the fulfillment of the plan to a greater extent.
There's more ways to fulfill the same thing than one way.
And if there's more ways to do it, you're eventually, you're embarking on a process of
discovery to find the best way, right? So this is why, in principle, we need to always be sharp on the
basic point that, no, this doesn't negate socialism. This is not a negation of socialism, right?
Because you could never draw a line to begin with. Now, I want to talk about Cuba in particular here
I'm pretty disgusted at Western leftists who are like I'm so devastated that Cuba is doing these reforms
why are you more devastated by your like expectations and ideals being disappointed
than you are by the fucking hideous poverty and
suffering that the Cuban people have had to endure because of your own regimes pressure.
And because you decide to prioritize transgender furries over building a mass movement because it's non-negotiable that you would ever embark on the process of winning an alternative base to socialism that is not just the base of the Democratic Party and is not just a base that it's going to obey the terms and conditions of your political correctness, because you're so specific and picky about who you regard as the masses and who you actually want to work with, because you regard the ACP and others as fascists and stuff.
I'll even say that.
It's like, well, you are unable to challenge your regime in any kind of way.
Oh, you're principled and you're so moral, but you can't even challenge your regime
to alleviate the suffering of the Cuban people.
And so, first of all, the fact that they don't
have their priorities in order, and they're
more outraged by one thing over another,
is already pretty fucking
hideously disgusting, just by itself,
right?
But what's especially, like, grotesque and disgusting to me is, um...
Is the fact that, like, you know they somehow understand that these reforms will alleviate suffering for the
Cuban people and yet they still consider their disappointment at the ideals, you know, more important, right?
It's the first thing.
The second thing is it's not actually, it's not going to be a bad thing if Cuba embraces some kind of
market-oriented socialist
economics. Either, I think
it would be more like Vietnam than it would be like
China, because institutionally
Cuba is more like Vietnam than
it is like China. And
the expectation that this is Deng Xiaoping's reform and opening up, no, there's a lot of differences between the Vietnamese and Chinese system.
China's system has always been more systemic, systematic, and integral, right, because of the Mao era.
Also, Cuba and Vietnam never had cultural revolutions.
But in any case, if Cuba can maintain political sovereignty,
if it can ensure that its reform and its own opening up
of its economy isn't going to
somehow erode
Cuba's geopolitical
sovereignty
and ability to make
choices independently of the U.S.
and so on and so on. this will be great for Cuba.
If Cuba does this the right way, if they don't allow it to affect the most fundamental institutions of socialist dictatorship,
just like in China, the state still owns the fundamentals of the economy, plus all the land.
And it's like if Cuba can maintain that, like Vietnam or like China, maintain the Communist Party rule, not allow these reforms to overthrow
the dictatorship
in the regime, Cuba will
benefit immensely from this. If they could
somehow now tap into the world market
and inject all
this capital and wealth into
the economy and build up productive forces.
This will help Cuba.
Cuba's in a tough spot because of how close it is to the U.S. geographically, though, for sure.
And then second of all, it's like we have to observe very closely.
Cuba can either have a Vietnam-China moment or it can have a Gorbachev moment.
A Gorbachev moment would mean that its economic reforms are going to correspond to a political reform.
That would be fucking disastrous.
A loosening of power by the regime would fucking destroy Cuba if they combine these reforms with political democratic reforms. That's when you know it's over for Cuba. So Cuba's market reforms should not disappoint anyone.
The only thing you should be worried about is if they go down the Gorbachev path, and this becomes like the USSR.
If they don't maintain their firm grip on politics and political dictatorship right so that's really my ultimate take on cuba now guys uh i'm gonna make a post to boost the stream for us to go forward tonight and we should boost this post so I'm
gonna make it right now uh all right because uh all right because uh we are pretty below the threshold of proceeding forward, to be honest, and I know, it's pretty
late.
I understand it's late, but we've got to...
In order for the stream to be worthwhile, it's like, you know, otherwise...
So hold on.
Let's just boost the fuck out of this. Thank you. all right so let's boost that guys let's boost it with everything we got and um
um mhm That's very interesting.
That is quite interesting.
Okay. We might get right into the debates.
The whole Reddit thing, it's like, do we really want to do this Reddit shit?
You know? you know i will briefly cover it.
All right.
This sub, mind broke Haas and ACP Chuds because their entire praxis was being chronically online
and taking over
subredits.
I want to know
like do they actually
believe this or is just like
a mantra they repeat to themselves
because they're like
you know in some kind of
is this like
one of their fantasies
that they're fulfilling?
I don't know if they actually genuinely believe this.
I don't think they...
I've been presented with plenty of evidence
that this is just one Australian.
And by the way, by taking over subs,
they're referring to the fact.
You want to know what Zionists, the
D-program people are? I want to tell you
about the Zionist tanky D-program.
These people
had a mod
named Alexatine. That was their mod, right?
He had a profile picture of
the PFLP, right?
Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine. That guy was friends with
Famous Plan, the Australian, you know, the Napoleon Bonaparte. He made Famous Plan Amad
of the sub, and that, my friends friends is the praxis of the acp taking over
reddit subs according to these people and then what they did the zionists they reported alexatine
whatever his name is and he got reported for terrorism.
They reported him for terrorism.
He got banned for supporting terrorism.
So the Tanky D program are Zionists who openly admit basically that they regard the PFLP as a terrorist organization.
They censor and ban people
for supporting the PFLP on Reddit.
That's effectively how they got their
sub back. They enforced
Zionist censorship
and fascist
Zionist ideology that Reddit upholds in order to protect their LGBT sub or whatever, right?
So these people are Zionists.
End of story.
Vortex with the tent.
Thank you so much, brother.
I appreciate it. Thank you so much, Vortex with the tent. Thank you so much, brother. I appreciate it.
Thank you so much, Vortex.
So that's effectively Tanky the D program.
That's their level of commitment to the Palestinian cause.
And their view that we're taking over subs is literally just famous plan being friends with someone who was already on their mod team.
And they claim that's our praxis.
Meanwhile, I think today it was posted that the Minnesota chapter of our party literally opened a rural library and we're literally building a greenhouse in Michigan.
It's like, you go on ACP Maine.
Every day, the ACP is doing something new.
That's real.
And they're claiming that our praxis is taking over subs, something which the
ACP, like actual ACP members
are not even involved in at all, right?
Censoring actual
communists, never happen.
And what do you mean by a communist?
How are you a communist if you're not part of a
Communist Party? And I've never understood that. What, do you mean by a communist? How are you a communist if you're not part of a communist party?
And I've never understood that.
What?
You just declare yourself one?
You have a hammer and sickle on your fursona, and that means you're a communist all of a sudden.
I just never quite understood this pretension that being a communist is somehow based on, you know, identifying as one,
rather than actually being, like, practically a communist who's in a collective organization
who is functionally engaged in some kind of communist practice, even the bare minimum of having like a, you know, basic collective formation that competently obeys Leninist principles and is able to somehow participate in the process of class struggle, right?
So I don't know why this person's saying we're chronically online.
How much you want to bet if I check their profile?
There's going to be a bunch of flags of an extremely, chronically
online person.
Okay, they, there's
someone named Jedi like, knowing who this is means, I don't know, who is this person?
What do all these things mean?
Is this someone who's like not chronically online using all this verbiage?
Okay. online using all this verbiage. Okay, is there a single
anything that this person is posting that has anything
to do with like something they're involved in in the real world?
Because I'm seeing like our long, long history.
Reddit Aids because i'm seeing like our long long history redid age three weeks ago very interesting the hasan sub went ballistic on cavv who is cav who is cav who is cav Cal. Who is Cav? Who is Cav? Okay. So this is someone, they're calling us chronically online, and yet they're referencing all these influencers and people that no normal person would know about. Okay. So there you go.
In any case,
we kicked out these Yakubian revisionists.
But, like, okay, am I white now? Like, how does this work how is it that a guy who not only is like of lebanese ancestry but of lebanese ancestry of people who were fighting
israel and only came to america because they were on an Israeli kill list.
That's my progeny. That's my lineage or my pedigree, whatever. And they're calling us Yakubians.
You are like a LGBT-obsessed, white, you know,
Baizuil leftist, and you're calling other people
Yukubians, it's fascinating.
We've only,
we've taken the only purpose they had in life away from them.
I mean, like, 262 people up due to this, which is really interesting. Then again, 400 people up due to the post that, like, expressing outrage that I was
griefing the QueerCraft
Minecraft server. The totally
real like a screenshot
right?
They, this sent their leader
into a fit of rage never seen
before.
There's so many, like every sentence is wrong.
Hold on. Every sentence is wrong.
Once if you've seen me in a fit of rage, far more wrathful and far more, like, what, nobody's
ever seen me get this angry, really?
Really? You want to play that game?
I'm literally famous for being like 50 times angrier in the Mongoloid rant.
Like, what are you fucking talking about?
I've never been this angry, really?
As the one where I told that retard to kill themselves.
You know, nothing personal, but you should kill yourself for being so retarded. It's like every
sentence is wrong. Like this sentence is told, eh, wrong, wrong,
because we,
you know,
first of all,
we're not Yucubian,
second of all,
we've been kicked out of plenty of more
subs,
actually.
This is really
laughable,
actually.
Just kill yourself.
Like,
you're not going to make it.
If you actually are this delusional, straight up kill yourself. Like, you're not going to make it. If you actually are this delusional,
straight up kill yourself.
It's wild watching these Nazi apologists,
defend their Nazi.
I kind of yawn at this.
You're kind of like a Zionist.
I feel like this is Zionist exceptionalism.
Like, why are you so,
why are you leaning so heavy on the Nazi thing?
The Nazis today are very clearly the supporters of Israel like AOC and Graham Patler,
Platner, all these other enablers of genocide that you rub shoulders with.
But you're talking about Germany 100 years ago. I don't know why.
We're Nazis. How are we Nazis? Defense Rage from Nazism is popular
to it's not Nazism if I say it isn't.
Yeah, but what's your response to the
clear view that we would be more
popular if we call ourselves Nazis?
You're like a retard. Kill yourself.
I can't tell if they're disingenuous
liars or deeply stupid. You haven't engaged
with a single argument. You are a subhuman mental retard. You're not human. You're a retard.
Like kill yourself, straight up. You think being a Nazi just means like being barbaric and mean.
That's what you think a Nazi is.
You think being a Nazi is like all about your obsession with, you know, micro-subcultures or something.
Like, you're a fucking retard.
Funny how Haas unites MLs and ultras
it doesn't mean anything
these are all Roblox identities
you're like I'm an ML I'm an ultra
I'm ancom I'm this I'm a that
it's like okay
these are all just tags on Roblox.
It means nothing. Like, what does that mean
in real life? In real life, what does any of that
mean? Oh, I
identify with these
thoughts, you know, I identify
with these Roblox tags.
Oh, we've united the coalition of the furry Ultra and the I identify with these Roblox tags.
Oh, we've united the coalition of the furry Ultra and the furry, all these furry tribes uniting together.
Subterranean, what's up?
And they made this gif this is a deeply disturbed
person I don't even want to click on their hideous
profile picture they have a picture
of a prepubescent girl
totally a person
that we were really disappointed we haven't been
able to win over.
Ahaz is losing his mind on a live stream.
He fluneses soy rage.
Do you even know what soy rage is, you fucking retard?
Me telling you to kill yourself is not soy rage.
It's genuinely good advice.
What's being referenced?
He hates seeing ML's being progressives.
There's just so much to unpack here there's just so much to unpack here there's just so much to unpack
first of all you know what's funny is that you're the one crying about my insufficient care or interest in the way you're attempting to combine Marxist-Leninist symbols and, you know, self-identity with your sexuality.
Actually, I don't care about that.
I have, like, cite in the past two years, me giving a fuck about that.
Sight in the past three years.
Two, three years.
Like, I don't give a fuck.
You're the one who's upset that I am not giving you a level of recognition
that wouldn't even amount to like
1% of the recognition China gives to you.
I'm not validating you enough, right?
It's like, what are you fucking talking about?
Oh, he hates seeing MLs being progressives.
Are you talking about being a furry?
Because I do consider that really fucked up and weird.
Like, you're angry about, like, an old tweet I made or something I'm not going to apologize for a tweet I made five years ago I'm not going to sit in here and tell you oh I'm going to tell you grow from some fucking thick skin I haven't attacked LGBT anything in
years. So what do you want at this
point? It's like, what would it look
like for this not to be the case?
What it would look like for this not to be the case
is that we would have to wave their flags
ourselves and we would have to
like pay jizziah to them we would have to pay a tax to them
we would have to pay some kind of like tribute no fuck go fuck yourself literally kill yourself like
that's not going to happen okay okay you're not going to bully us
into just adopting your positions
we are pretty clear
we're not attacking
I don't give a fuck anymore
like fuck these people
fuck these D program
lib tards
these fucking radlibs
red lib rabs because they're playing this identity politics game and it's like why pander to them um they are very angry at the fact that you know jackson is not wearing a dress. That's literally, they're mad that.
It's not that they're upset that we're transphobic because it's like, functionally, we're
really not. We're really not. They're upset that Jackson himself will not transition into a woman.
That's what they're upset about.
They're not upset about the fact that we are trans- because we're not.
Like, when's the last time we've talked about that?
Never, right?
They're upset that Jackson himself will not transition and be a transgender.
And they claim this means you are Nazis.
In a recent stream, I mean, so like you got the guidance, you got the advice, what's the issue?
I love opportunists and feds masquerading as Marxists.
This person was definitely given the Marxist.org glossary and just fed it into AI and was like,
how do I sound like a Marxist attacking someone I don't like because of furries and stuff, right?
And they're like, oh, yeah, just call them an opportunist and Fedjacket them, like you're a Black Panther from the 70s.
Because Cointel Pro in the feds clearly have a very strong vested interest in making sure that communism is not associated with furries.
Okay. So that is one thing from the the tankie
the D program sub
By the way
Should we blame Hakeem for creating this?
Because what does this even come from?
I feel like these people are bots or feds
or something like what even is this?
Hold on, let's continue because there is one i was told about okay this is like really funny guys like what this is like crazy there's been a recent
increase in the amount of anti-China, anti-Russia posts on here.
Yeah, Redditors swimming in the fucking mud with fellow Redditors.
Like, you're in the fucking mud pit with your fellow Reddit pigs.
What do you expect?
And your shitlibs who loudly purge us.
We are probably the most...
And by we, I guess, the Australian contingent of infrared.
Because I don't fucking know a single person in the ACP who uses Reddit, by the way.
Maybe some do.
I just personally don't know them.
But people who are sympathetic with us tend to be very pro-China, very anti-Russia.
So if you're constantly signaling to the world how much you're not like those 18
peepin, you're going to get the people you're asking for.
You're going to get your Drew Pavloos and all the other people who are, like, the
nafos and stuff.
Like, I was banned on Twitch for being pro-Russia.
Who the fuck do you think you're attracting?
You fucking retard.
What happened?
But this is
their explanation.
Are these
ACP bots?
They think
that the
libtards
that they're
attracting and
they're,
I don't know,
their,
their,
um,
progressive pride parade of Reddit or something. I don't know, their progressive pride parade of Reddit or something.
I don't know what these people, what kind of world they live in.
They think that these people, that they themselves have attracted because of how they themselves,
the things that they emphasize that they care about the most, the priorities that they have, where they think that transphobia is more important than genocide, because of the people they themselves have attracted, they're now claiming that all the liberals that are on this sub, the Libtards, are ACP bots.
What kind of fucking level of actual psychosis and delusion do you have to fucking be on?
To attribute the community you yourself have cultivated.
Why are, why, why, why, what, they're like, you're giving shitlib energy.
Then you get shitlibs.
This must be ACP bots.
You're literally, like, in denial.
You're in denial about who and what you are.
It was filled with liberals attacking me, claiming that Russia is an imperial. That's the people you associate with. That's who you're with. I'd, by the way, I'd rather associate with Russian
Nasbol's than your
Naifoyd fucking Graham-Platner
AOC. I'll take
actual, like, real
LeManov Russian
Nasbolls over AOC supporters
any fucking day of the week.
I have no fucking problem saying that.
Actual Russian Nossbols, literal Russian Nossbols in the Wagner group,
I would rather have those people on my team than AOC and Graham Platner supporters that you rub shoulders with and you don't cancel and you support.
Because one of these people actually fights and kills Nazis, since you're so interested in the Nazi thing,
whereas others have a fucking Nazi tattoo,
and AOC supports giving fucking weapons to the Ukrainian Nazis.
Literally kill yourself.
What are we even talking about anymore?
Opposed by leftists and we shouldn't support capitalist states simply because they're
anti-imperialist. I don't remember this sub being like this before. Because you drew a hard
line in the sand. You're're either you either accept that infrared and
ACP are Nazis or you know uh you're gone okay well you did your your purge i guess filtering out
all the people who were sympathetic to us and now the people you're left with
are the people who agree that transgenderism is more important than genocide and these are the
people that don't support anti-imperial estates. They don't support Iran.
I mean, that's who you're with.
Remember, I never got canceled at first because of my views on cultural war politics.
I got canceled for denying the Uyghur genocide.
That's what I got canceled for.
The first time I was called a Nazi
wasn't because I said anything
about the culture war.
It was because I denied the Oigur genocide.
And I was being compared
to a Holocaust denier.
People in my replies were casually using words like campism or dengism.
Yeah, that's another thing that earned us the ire of leftists is that we were
dangis, right?
So it's like, you know, these are the people you, you know, you give out your shit, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you're, you know, you, to seize control of Reddit, breaking up the privatization.
Hold on, hold on. It's like I'm getting conflicting information.
First we're being accused of being terminally online and then wrongly
being accused of taking over all these subredits when it's one Australian who's doing that.
And now they're saying that they think that's what Lennon would also do. So, famous plan should be
flattered, I think, you know.
The Discord server is both private and requires screening to get into.
I'm on it and it's great.
Which Discord are're talking about their own Discord.
Okay.
I don't think it's just the ACP Chuds.
Implying that we are at least partially responsible for this, by the way. It's, yeah, it's all the people you attracted because you virtue signaled against us.
Congratulations, you unprincipled, subhuman pieces of shit.
Literally you belong in the fucking pit, the Tito pit.
The Yugoslav cuck pit.
That's where you fucking belong.
ACP loves China and Russia, so that would be a
strange way.
Like one, the one maybe sane person gets 10 up to.
It's very interesting.
Why would ACP be anti-China or Russia?
Because it's a Fed operation to destabilize leftist movements.
You're right.
Because you're so stable without us.
I just thought about it. It's like, you're so right.
Your leftist movements are so stable without us.
PSL literally just had a split.
There's always nonstop drama going on in every fucking leftist organization there is.
You can't even form collective discipline and form parties. You're still debating about whether you should support a guy who has a Nazi tattoo. And that is the stability that would, you know, just uninterrupted, be allowed to just proliferate if it wasn't for the ACP, right? Like, you know, just uninterrupted, be allowed to just proliferate if it wasn't for the ACP, right?
Like, you are so stable without us. It must be because we, the Fed, where are the feds destabilizing you right do you guys remember before
2021 before infrared do you remember how stable the american left was wasn't it so stable
all the leftist remember all the stable leftist movements
remember how in 2020 when like you would get canceled for like farting in the wrong direction
remember how stable all that was
remember how stable it was when you like wouldn't acknowledge the pronouns of a jar of mayonnaise
remember how stable it was we're like if you open to you like wouldn't acknowledge the pronouns of a jar of mayonnaise.
Remember how stable it was?
We're like,
if you opened a fridge and you like,
you took out some ketchup and you didn't address it by its pronouns,
you would get literally like fucking beheaded
by like the woke ISIS
of the 2020s.
Remember how stable
and well-adjusted
leftist movements were
before infrared and ACP?
Remember how normal
and stable it was?
If they are feds, they aren't doing doing they aren't good at their job they cut them some slack their membership was leaked recently turns out they have 300 so let me ask a question if you like couldn't cope to yourself like this, like, if the lie was not true, like, if you had, I know it's a coping mechanism for you.
Like, would you just kill yourself?
Do you need this to be alive?
Is this your life support?
Do you wake up every day and you're like, I need these lies about the ACP,
or else I'm going to have suicidal thoughts?
Because sometimes I think you're on life support, right?
They're doing their best they can with a little manpower they have.
Okay, so hold on.
If we have the support of the federal government,
why would we even be at such a low number?
Like, we are simultaneously all-powerful
while simultaneously being incredibly weak.
Hmm.
You know, let me consult Jewish-American Zionist scholar of hateful bigot studies in Yale University or something.
And they will say, yeah, that's the pattern of anti-Semitism.
You regard them as all-powerful while simultaneously regarding them as extremely weak and extremely
ineffective and extremely pathetic. Hmm. Hmm, let's consult that fucking retard. What's his name? Uh, hmm, let's consult that fucking retard.
What's his name?
What's that guy's name that I made a video debunking him?
On the Dugan video.
Remember that guy?
His name was something, something, something. What was his name? something something something
what was his name anyone remember
yeah Alexander Reed Ross
one guy got it let's consult Alexander
Reid Ross all the
archetypes the Freudi
the Jungian archetypes of fascism
where you regard the enemy is
simultaneously all powerful and
omnipotent, but also extremely
weak and ineffective.
Like, why are you
if we're feds,
then like, what's the point of like,
we're going to point and laugh at you
because you're so pathetic.
It's like, well, don't the feds
have an unlimited budget?
Can't they just fucking do anything, actually?
Wouldn't we be given
millions of dollars to just like
put fucking billboards everywhere
and like literally just grow to like
5,000 members overnight.
Why would that be hard at all?
Couldn't the feds at least
rigs social media in our favor?
Couldn't they at least create
the impression that we are
that we have 10,000, you know, active, aggressive, like,
troops on Reddit all the time everywhere.
And that, you know, couldn't they at least, like, overwhelming force have us flood every subreddit, have us like create giant reddits from scratch, which just are our supporters and create all this discourse? Couldn't they create the illusion enough that we would be effective?
Couldn't the feds do that?
Like, why would the feds not have the ability to make us more powerful than you perceive us to be?
Do you think they just don't have money or they can't control Redditdit do you think the reddit like admin team are like these principled like these like these nerds that are like i have taken the oath from star trek live well and prosper live well and prosper. Live well and prosper.
In Star Trek, the ethical oath
of Captain
Prickard
is that I will not relinquish
control of Reddit to the government.
The government... Like what? You don Reddit to the government. The government...
Like what?
You don't think the government
has backdoor access
to all social media
to make whatever fucking
anything they want?
Why are you a retard?
Like, okay, if you killed yourself,
what would be lost in the world?
Just tell me that.
Genuine question.
It's a dark stream.
But it's like we have to start asking these questions.
If you disappeared and you didn't exist, what would be lost?
What of mankind would be lost?
Is there any source
no response
no response
no response
uh why are they so little
if they get fed support oh no they got down duted
what what about that question was um fed payrolls are
expensive they're really not though they're really not that expensive actually they're really not
this is such a stupid argument
why
if they control the internet
why couldn't they just
like get a bunch of
fucking gullible unsuspecting people
to be recruited into us.
Like, why are you so retarded?
Like, your parents should have beaten you.
Maybe that's the thing I need.
Instead of the killer, maybe it's like your parents should have just beaten you and
you know, and I don't know.
You should have been beaten into intelligence somehow it's not
too late maybe maybe it's not too late like there's just no thinking here there's no thinking
there's no like asian education no, like, Asian education.
Asian education style is very strict, and it's like, you get punished for being fucking stupid.
These people were never punished for being stupid.
And so this is why you see these people, like, not even think a basic minimal, like, logical procedure.
Like, oh, well, well, actually, if they are feds, like, wouldn't the feds actually just, like, rig the internet so that, like, the heckin good guys appeared, like, they appeared like the heckin good guys, MCU cinematic universe, good guys, and you were the marginal, like, unwholesome one.
Like, couldn't the feds, like, make any perception they wanted based on their control of social media?
No, no, they're ready admins would never allow that
my point is they're trying to make
the sub seem like it's filled with
crazy liberals
uh
cosplaying as leftist
through their live audience
ah so like when you guys all started crying playing as leftist through their live audience. Ah, so
like when you guys all started
crying about queer craft
being besieged
supposedly,
that was just infrared
ACP bots
creating that perception
so you look crazy
but are the 12
people who updated this also ACP
bots because this is a fucking crazy
lib-tart thing to sign off on
the idea that the crazy
lip shits on your
sub are a product of
our manipulation.
ACP's
pro-Russia, just in a very Nazi way.
You go on this subreddit and you just read sentences that have never, have been,
never been, like, uttered before.
Like, you just get to read sentences that have never been repeated anywhere else.
Yeah, pro-Russia, just in a very Nazi way. Mm- else. Yeah. Pro Russia, just in a very
Nazi way. Mm-hmm.
Yeah. Very interesting.
Pro-Russia, but in not...
I wonder what, like,
like, people who fought in World War II,
like, if they actually lived in that world
and they woke up today and they're like, what?
Pro-R-R- what?
What? What?
Um,
feds doing this is far more threatening than what ACPR feds i don't think anyone in this sub actually believes
that by the way you know what we bring out the dick guillotine again i'll put my dick on the dick
guillotine i'll say 95% of the people calling us feds do not
believe we're feds. The guillotine's held
up by God. If I'm wrong,
the guillotine falls.
And if I'm correct, it stays.
I'm willing to put my dick on the dick guillotine
and say that
none of the people calling as feds actually think we're feds it's just a coping mechanism psychologically it's just like a way to signal like you know um these these i can't cope with the reality of these people so let's collectively like cope together.
None of them actually like if you told these people, okay, bet like $5,000.
Whatever amount of money in your bank account, it will quadruple if they are feds. How many of them would make that bet? None of them think
we're feds. What they think is that we are deplorable and calling us feds is a very psychologically soothing thing that they do to cope with that fact.
Uh-oh, what are all the censored people saying?
I would summon, oh, found the censored people saying? I would someone...
Oh, found the ACP bot, I guess.
Yeah, the only ACP created all these people.
Like, NAFO, that was all created by the ACP.
All these, like, libtards.
Look,
they literally have to get
into a debate
in the comment section
because it's like,
it's the most
comical thing in the world.
Are all these lip tards
that we've, like,
attracted to our sub,
a consequence of the ACP.
And then you go down and they're actually having
to like directly argue with
these people who are clearly not
bots or at least not our bots.
Very fascinating.
Now, is there anything else we should cover before moving on to our debates?
Uh, and ones if you would like to have a regular review of the, this subreddit in particular we could test to
see what kind of pipeline this would create
usually attacking and trolling
leftists was a source of growing infrared
because
you know it's just really
honestly it's kind of like free advertisement
but it's like what do you guys think
if we should
like do this regularly just like check
their Reddit just to like
just like remember how
different we are you know
Gerald's up it's also it would also serve to be like an important reminder of like
that's literally the level of stupidity that's out there right
I feel like we do need to preemptively destroy these people in a way because we are already creating our own pipelines that are teaching people Marxism from zero.
And once that starts to grow significantly, these people are going to like soy rage and do everything they can to sabotage
communism in america you know what i got some incredible drama no bad empanana or hasan piker posts are allowed from now
on you want to know why they're doing this because the deprogram people depend on Hassan Piker.
So if they were to side with bad empanata,
then they would lose their pipeline to the Piker community.
And if they were to attack bad empanada,
they would be recognized, in this context at least,
for the unprincipled Zionist shills that they actually fucking are.
So this is how they're trying to tread the line and not take a decisive stance
on the basic
fucking issue of whether the
American left should support
Zionist Nazi genocidal
Democrats.
No ban and banana or his
yeah, just kidding, this was the thing
you're going to be neutral about we're going to
take a decisive stance on transphobia if only you were as decisive on the issue of Palestine if only
you were as decisive on the issue of supporting Palestinian children as you were on the issue of transphobia, the supposed crisis of transphobia. You are so firm and willing to draw a line in the sand about transphobia, but you won't draw a line in the sand about this basic, clear distinction between bad empanata's position and Piker's position on Graham Platner and, you know, on the Democratic Party.
On that question, you have to enforce neutrality.
But on the question of transgenderism, on the question of furries or whatever you're prioritizing here,
you have to have a very...
No,
which side
are you on?
They're like,
when it comes
to furries,
they're like,
which side are you on?
Which side are you on? Which side are you on?
And then when it comes to supporting a guy with a Nazi tattoo,
they're like, well, we don't want any drama.
We don't want any, you know, sectarian.
Is that a word they use sectarian infighting?
So among the various sects of the D program include people who, I don't know, support the Democratic Party. Very interesting.
That's very interesting.
I'll look, I'll be a regular on the sub now, you know, if they want to continue.
If you want to, we want to create this cybernetic loop,
you know, they're an unlimited source of content, to be honest, how retarded they are.
But if they give me the right pretext to keep returning to it,
it's going to get a lot of Normies.
Let me tell you guys the advantages.
I'm going to tell you the advantages.
And I'll be open about it because nobody's going to...
Nobody will actually work against this strategy
because they're literally not even human in their head.
I think that this sub depends on the
Piker sub as a pipeline, right?
And also those other
big, like, leftist Reddit subs.
So what's going to happen is they continue
posting about me. I'll continue
covering on stream. They'll continue posting my streams, by the way. And they'll continue
posting me generally, my name, ACP, whatever. And then all the people that come from
these other subs
that they depend on
will have exposure to us
and only the people from
those communities who are well
adjusted and normal will
eventually like I want to look into
this myself type of thing.
And then that's the infrared pipeline back in motion.
For the years of infrared, this was the main strategy of growth for a long time.
So, you know, and the reason they're not going to not do this is they genuinely have the hubris that they don't believe attention is all attention's good attention like they genuinely have this
hubris where they're like if i just really am mean to haz and if i really mock him and attack him
and call him a nazi and all this stuff it's not going to provoke interest, they have that hubris where they think they can control perception.
They just, they don't understand how these things work, right?
So, honestly, you know, part of the infrared Renaissancenaissance can be using the retardation
of subs like this to just grow our shit.
And as like, I'm a evil
villain who has no problem
just like saying this out in the open.
Um, because they're like there's nothing they could do to stop it they can't even
control themselves um so yeah that's something very interesting
very nice
so so uh and by the way guys i gave you such good content about cuba and history before
earlier and i want to say that that's i'm just i'm just to toot my own horn and tell you the premium content.
We're going to get right into the debates, guys, right into the debates. Thank you. You know, Thank you. Yo! Yo! Yo.
Guys,
once advice shut going live at 4 p.m. Maybe I will tomorrow.
Maybe I'll test that shit.
We'll do that tomorrow.
Maybe I'll test that shit.
Anyway, I'm going to start the debate right now.
Okay.
And guys, I'm not frozen right now. I'm just deep in thought.
Did you know that? I'm just very deep in thought.
I'm thinking right now.
I'm considering a lot of things right now.
Okay. And we're going to have this debate.
Ha ha ha ha.
Hold on.
Come on.
Okay.
Good.
All right. So we will name Okay, good.
All right.
So, we will name this debate.
Um... I need a new caption.
Besides the debate Marxism one, I need a new caption.
Let's see.
Also, I can make it kind of smaller, right? Doesn't need to be so large
I have a brilliant
I have a brilliant idea
I have a brilliant idea. I have a brilliant idea for these captions.
I have a brilliant idea. Thank you. I have a brilliant idea. Ah, what should I lean on? There's so many different ones.
Um... Um, you have to put the debate thing, and then I can put any caption that I want.
So, download this one okay we have this one okay we have this one.
Download this.
And, uh, let's get another one. You know, Should we just do some culture war slop?
Honestly. You know, All right, I have a really nice one. Capitalism equals failure.
All right.
I have a bunch of like captions and shit.
That will very clear, much clever.
Dark energy, what's up bro appreciate you
All right I'm just getting these for the tic-tok and then we're gonna
We're gonna get right into it all right let's open our tick oh we got some guests
We've got some guests already okay hold on let me add these
images um add a source image
mm-hmm
okay we just add all of this right
or we have to choose one at a time
okay
and hide this one.
Now, I have to do this one by one.
Yo!
What's up, bro?
Give me one second so I can shout you out.
Um... one second so I can shout you out. Um,
uh,
add a source
image.
Um, this one right no i already did that one is it this one actually yes add this source and then we will add another one
I think this the one that's missing we need is the Marxism is true one nope not this one
yes we do need this one. Perfect. We'll have these different debate
topics that we can just like constantly use and they'll just, we'll use these for a long,
this will be, guys, long term, this is some good stuff.
Like, we need this will forever, this will be like good.
I think we have everything.
Okay, hold on.
Yes.
All right, so this one's going to go.
And then, no. No. Okay, so I just put this in the corner like right here. Perfect. And then we need the one that says debate right here
and that
um
right here
it should be on top right
is it better for it to be on top
and then
put this right here and then for our first topic
since we've been in on uh on the reddit we'll just we'll just like um do some culture war slop
communism isn't culturally liberal
i'm so proud of this
all right all right all right we've got a good thing going long guy with the four
what's up, man?
Okay, so now we can see
how far this topic goes
and if this topic is boring, we'll have
another topic. All right.
So,
there we go.
So there's someone named Magic Man.
Go ahead.
Hey, how's it going?
Terribly. What's going on?
That's great to hear.
So, do you think Marxism
is the way?
Yeah.
So do we think we should think of
blacks, Mexican, the Indians
and Turks is inferior then?
You're immediately going to say slurs
goodbye.
Bunny, go ahead.
Oh, no.
It's this rabbit.
What?
Has on the freaking villain of left talk.
I hope you know that. I am the villain.
I'm spitting the block back for the rabbit.
I hope you know that.
How old are you?
You disrespected the rabbit.
I will not let that slide.
Bro, you're...
I will not let that slide.
You need to go to bed.
You have school tomorrow probably.
Like, what is this?
TikTok?
It's like, where are the parents?
Where are the parents?
Where are the parents?
You know? where are the parents you know like where are the parents
why do i have to deal with this like where are the parents
nobody's watching their kids anymore Why do I have to deal with this? Like, where are the parents?
Nobody's watching their kids anymore.
This guy's name is the bunny.
He's like the rabbit.
The scary guy with the mask or whatever.
Which, you know, yeah, I know who it is.
It's true philosophy. So that, he know who it is. It's a true philosophy.
So that,
he ruined it because he didn't have a voice modulator.
All right,
there's this scary weird thing.
Go ahead.
Yeah,
so the biggest thing with this is obviously the Sugan policy.
The what?
The Sugan policy.
The what?
The Sugan policy.
Oh, okay.
You want to finish it?
This is a real thing.
No, do you want to finish that?
I don't know what you're talking about.
Finish what you wanted to say because you're going to say something really funny and silly, right?
Just say it.
This is a real thing.
Go ahead.
Elaborate.
Okay, well, it's a big thing in the UK.
Uh-huh.
If you could just look it up for me.
I looked it up.
Now, give us the joke.
It's insane. This give us the joke.
Insane. This isn't a joke.
The Suggandies. Is that what you wanted to say?
Sugandis. Yeah, he said it. There you go.
We got a genius. We got a genius over here.
All right.
Nobody could see it coming.
Anyway, let's continue.
Liam, this disgusting anime person, go ahead.
Yo, Haas. I just wanted to ask,
is it true that Tyler Robinson was connected to the ACP Discord?
That's some really
disturbing information. Where did you get that?
Uh, the screenshots that came from the, the roommate.
Hmm, you got that from the Nick Fuentes, uh, the community.
Yeah, Nick Mogs you, buddy, Nick mogs you, you're retarded.
Oh, yeah, Nick, Neger, Neg're retarded. Oh, yeah, Nick.
Neger, Neger, Neger, Neger, Neger, Neger, Neger, there we go.
So you see, this is a person who is, you know, glorifying the physical appearance
of another man
and that is a
that is just a straight person
for sure
that's just a
straight up
heterosexual thing
to be doing with your time
you know you know it's funny sexual thing to be doing with your time.
You know, you know, it's funny.
I know what, like, I can visualize you.
Like, you type of people,
the specific archetype,
man, I live in the Midwest, it's like, you, the Midwest it's like you your type of
like the type of person that you are
I see all the time and you're not
a confrontational person you're very
your head is low and you're just
and then the on the internet this is how
you are.
So I know exactly you're like this nerdy, pathetic, just little thing.
And it's a shame because you're on the internet anonymously.
And you're just one of these quirky nerds that were never given their time in the sun.
It's quite sad, actually.
We got some Destiny fans in here. That's crazy. Uh, we carry the flame.
We are his mission, we carry the flame.
We are Charlie girl
that was
Try to make me laugh
Try to
If I crack a smile
I lose
Okay
I can think of a good joke right now
You got me on.
You failed.
You just failed.
You just failed. Z, go ahead.
What?
What?
So you want to remove religion from Earth?
What?
You want to remove religion.
What?
I literally can't hear you. What do you want?
I, I, like, he joined.
He just goes,
what?
He's like, I, he joins.
I'm like, yo, he's like, what do you want?
What am I supposed to do?
It's your favorite for real go ahead yeah what's up
you're coming out
you know nick flintez would beat your ass in a fight you fucking kike you fuck your
kike ass up yeah yeah yeah yeah the guy who's 120 pounds really the guy who's 120 pounds, really?
The guy who's 120 pounds, he's not fighting anyone, buddy.
I'm sorry.
I mean, I know you have this extremely heterosexual fascination with his looks, and you want to talk about that.
But just don't mention fighting.
Don't mention fighting and Nick Flentes in the same sentence.
Matter of fact, not only you and Flentes and the other guy
would get destroyed by me in any kind of confrontation.
Ah, there we go. The restriction got restricted for 10 minutes. That's okay. We'll weather the 10-minute storm of censorship.
And we'll just weather the storm.
And Larry Ellison, he automates the Tick-Tac to just totally, you know, with the momentum was climbing and now we're just restricted.
It's just absolutely, I don't know what I'm going to do with myself.
I don't know what I'm going to do with myself anymore.
The TikTok got restricted because the Nick Fuentes fans were saying bad words.
And the bad words triggered the alarm that there's censorship.
And now they're snickering.
And they,
I guess they got,
you know, they won.
But,
um,
Nick Fuentes,
didn't that guy fall off?
Who is,
who,
Nick Fuentes?
Is that?
Nick Fuentes.
Is that like the Milo or who else were these other people?
Richard Spencer.
I remember Richard Spencer.
Who's Nick Fuentes, really?
Isn't that guy, isn't that the guy who fell off?
Didn't that guy like contract
by a ton
and he's like
now literally
like a hundred
and ten pounds
or something
and he just like
I'm surprised
he still has fans
honestly.
You have 70
viewers
you're talking about
falling off.
First of all I have much less
than 70 viewers because my live just got restricted.
Second of all,
you are the content.
I hope you TikTokers know that you're just
here to provide content to my actual
stream. Like, you are the content
you are literally not the audience you're the content we need to understand the relationship
very clear you the ticktackers are not my audience You are the content for my actual audience.
You understand?
So I just want you guys to know your place.
You're quite low on the pecking order, if I'm being honest.
You are like the Dalits.
You're quite low.
So let's...
Oh, Jesus Christ. All right. We're going to order.
Base tan. Go ahead.
I have a question.
Would you rather be a George Floyd reactionary or a neoliberal?
Okay.
That's...
Or a neoliberarian phalanist, right?
That's the...
Uh-huh. libertarian phalanjist, right? That's the, uh, uh, uh, I, I just hear these words and it's like, all right, we got to, we're doing our due diligence, Larry Ellison, we're doing our due diligence.
There's still Nick Fuentes fans. That's's crazy you're still watching Nick Fuentes
still
I thought when you just kind of like
it takes a few months to turn like 17 or something
and you move on
you're still watching Nick Fuentes
that's fascinating you must really not shower
uh okay um seeing Nick Funces. That's fascinating. You must really not shower.
Okay.
The rabbit, the rabbit,
the rabbit.
I have returned.
I can see that. And I'm here. Now, I've gone through some ideological changes in my ideology.
And you should know that I am now a proponent of fascization theory.
What?
This is the spontaneous
self-establishment of all
spirits in the world.
All right. Now, my contention
with, with, we'll say, the foster right line.
Can you tell me where you got that mask?
That's the question.
That's a million dollar question.
Where did you get that, Matt?
Did you order it made like that?
Or did you make that yourself?
The rabbit is not an idea.
It is not a mask.
Okay, but where did you get it?
I got it from like, uh,
I was out like Best Buy.
So they just selling that shit at Best Buy?
Now, if you'll listen.
At Best Buy?
I'm gonna go Beast mode if you don't watch out.
If you don't watch out, I'm gonna go Beast mode.
Do it with a voice modulator.
You might actually go viral, trolling some people with that.
Right now, you're getting your dead giveaway.
All right. It's not working.
Ray, go ahead.
Hello.
Would you rather be a George Floyd reactionary or a
neoliberal return for I guess.
They got AI doing this stuff now. They got
clawed agents who do they got clawed agents
who do this full
clawed agents
they got them scouring TikTok
the clawed agents
and that it's just like
they just have it going on
that's fascinating that's fascinating
that's fascinating
they've got
Claude employing agents
with such uniformity that has never been seen
never been seen.
Okay, Waffle House, very disturbing.
Hello?
Yeah.
Hey, man, southern left this year. I just want to everybody to know,
pick up a chainsaw, put down a flaw camera.
Pick up a gun.
I don't.
It's like that escalated quite quickly, okay?
We're talking about a major escalation.
And, uh, We're talking about a major escalation. And I don't know.
We have a chainsaw.
What a Jesus Christ.
All right.
Okay.
Like there's just some major escalation going on.
Okay.
Um. Okay, like there's just some major escalation going on. Okay. Um,
um,
you see,
there's only 50 people,
but look how high energy it is.
That's the thing.
No other live has this much high energy.
No other,
I'm restricted, right?
My visibility is restricted, and this Tic Tac is so high energy.
If you're on the main one, stay on the main one.
These are Dalits, you know, these Ticktakers, they're on a lower pecking order.
But at the same time, I'm'm just telling you you can't say the
content is in here will anyone actually debate okay now we have tito who probably might debate right
go ahead what's up um i would like your opinion on a few things.
So what's your opinion on Trinkle-down economics and labor aristocracy?
Trickle-down economics.
Yeah.
That's just a bunch of baloney.
It's nonsense. What's your a bunch of baloney. It's nonsense.
What's your take on Titoism?
I think Tito was awful.
How come?
Because he laid the foundations for one of the worst and most devastating tragic wars in the history
of your... Well, now, that was Milosevic, bro.
No, it was Tito's fault, actually.
Fundamentally Tito's...
So what was... What was Tito's...
From the beginning, he had the national
question completely wrong. Building
Yugoslavia instead
of a Balkan federation
was totally a mistake
it should have been
South Slavic movement not the whole Balkan
entirely well it had to have been a Balkan
movement because the Albanians were a huge
presence they had a huge presence.
They had a huge presence in the region.
I mean, it's illogical.
Why not bring Greece?
I'm sorry, why not bring Albania, Greece, and why not potentially even bring Turkey in a better world it's like again it was it was a
South Slavic no and that was a mistake pan slavism was a mistake
fundamentally and why does Yugoslavia end why doesn't it absorb Czechoslovakia and Poland it's a
sort of jumbled notion.
Well, it could have
worked, but at the same time,
like,
it was like more of a
non-aligned movement.
That's, and it was exactly, it was geopolitically
despicable.
It was a disaster for the world communist movement.
And it sowed the seeds of ethnic sectarianism and conflict.
I mean, I've had parents who lived under it.
I know. Socialism is good.
We all know socialism is good.
We all know that, you know, Yugoslavia should have been preserved.
I'm not saying it was good what happened to Yugoslavia.
But you realize, like, the more ethnic groups you have in a state, the harder is to answer.
I'm aware. I blame Tito for a lot of the decisions that led to the destruction.
Well, you know that like the region of Yugoslavia is a cluster of different ethnicities and it's kind of hard to...
I'm very aware of that. But you, well, the first thing you can't do is you can't make a state that is founded on ethnic exclusion.
In the name.
I'm not saying they were oppressing necessarily the Albanians, but the inability to recognize minorities sufficiently
yeah but you have to look at it from a perspective
like
it would be like way more difficult
for the
Yugoslav government to recognize
these very small minorities
no having a Balkan federation...
Having a Balkan federation that eventually takes Greece and takes other potentially, you know...
It would have been more of a...
We could have a Soviet Union in Eastern Europe or in the Balkans.
Geographically, Greece is already
Balkans, so.
Correct. But
Greece is not Slavic.
Yeah,
that's the whole
reason for the Yugoslavia name.
Again, it's South Slavic unity.
But why not Balkan unity?
Because...
Why are you so different that you can't have the Greeks and Albanians?
You all have Baklava.
You all wear the funny hats. You all have Baclava. You all wear the funny hats.
You all do this circular dance thing.
Just stop this, stop making barriers where they don't exist.
You would let me go a little bit further.
Create a Baclava Confederation.
There's no reason not to.
Good idea.
Again, like the whole national question would be basically impossible.
The Baklava, it's called the Baklava Confederation.
It would be very easy to do it.
I mean, not all of us here exactly in the same culture.
When it comes to South Slavs, us.
Okay.
Oh, yeah.
And that's that logic.
Do you know what that logic created?
Balkanization.
Because where does the line end?
Oh, we're too different from the Albanians.
Okay. Now we're different from the Bosnians.
Now we're different from the Croats.
Now we're different from the Slovenians.
Everyone's different.
In what, Yugoslavia?
Yeah, everyone started talking about how different they are.
Bosnia, Croatia, those
countries, Montenegro, they all share
similar aspects in culture. Yeah, but where
do you draw the line? The Balkans...
That's why people can differ. That's
why people can differ where people are
from in that region. But listen,
the answer to
Balkanization is more unity
and Yugoslavia should not have
excluded. It shouldn't
have been called Yugoslavia. It should have been called
the Baklava Confederation.
I mean,
it's a weird, it's a weird
It's a weird name for
It's not weird
It's not weird
It's not weird
I feel like
The only solution to
Balkanization is Baklovisation.
I feel like it's a bit stereotypical.
Really?
Yeah.
I disagree.
I mean, like, I think we should unite all Slavic people under a nation.
That's a lot of it.
It's total warm.
No, no, no, no.
No, no, no.
Hear me out.
You have to just hear me out.
It's such, I don't, so it's, it's nonsense.
All right?
It's like, yeah, all...
Yeah, you're going to unite all Slavic people.
What's next to?
I mean, the USSR did that, didn't think?
No, it didn't.
That's the thing.
It's that the USSR was not a pan-Slavist project.
Russia is very different.
No. Correct, very different. No.
Correct.
But despite being Slavs,
they are very different
from other Slavs.
Russia did annex
almost all of Eastern Europe
and even helped Yugoslavian.
That was not a pan-Slavic ambition.
Well, it was more of a liberation of
Eastern Europe.
Pan-Slavism was just
German Larp. It was just an emulation
of German nationalism, which is the fundamental
root of all Europe's
problems. So could you essentially
go a little bit further by what you
mean, like elaborate?
When the Germans were scattered across
the Austro-Hungarian Empire
and also into
little feudal principalities and statelets.
There arose a German national movement that corresponded with trying to emulate the French nation-state model,
and German nationalism was this very vague notion
that all the German speaking peoples
were one nation and one people,
which
Bismarck,
united them with blood and iron or whatever.
Do you know that
Germans who actually migrated to
places like Serbia and Voivagina, they actually learned
to integrate and assimilate.
Yeah, this is why the modern nation state paradigm is very problematic.
They assimilated into their respectful country and their respectful ethnicity, which would be certain.
Yes, but I'm telling you that the paradigm, everyone would try is trying to copy German nationalism.
So France had defined borders in the kingdom of France basically everyone
within those borders became French more or less I mean it's been botching it a
little so the problem is that the Germans were scattered across state lines and
borders and stuff right so for other peoples who were separated by different
policies and borders, they emulated German nationalism by having this aspiration to just
merge and meld together all these different groups based on some kind of common identity.
Panslavism was one for one, an attempt to emulate, you know, the German kind of nationalist impulse.
But do you know Tito's, Tito's, like, made push for the national question was to assimilate people into their respective
ethnicity instead of dividing it, dividing into different minorities where they could be, you know, recognized.
So he did some things like give autonomy to Voivodina in Kosovo
which essentially gave them power in the government
so he basically pushed for assimilation and integration
for the national question because it would be
just trying to erase people
Albanians are not foreign invaders because it was kind of just trying to erase people.
Well,
well,
Albanians are not foreign invaders.
You can't compare Albanians to German colonizers. No, we can no,
no,
Albanians had their own autonomy in Kosovo.
That's what Tito was trying to do.
Well, you're saying they were trying to assimilate them.
No, he was also trying to pacify the region as well.
Right.
Through autonomy of Kosovo, basically making Serbia a little weaker.
Well, the project was a failure.
I wouldn't say so.
I mean, it held on for a very long time until...
I mean, the only issue was Tito didn't really have someone to come after him.
So it was a failure.
Well, if you put it in the national aspect, like...
It was a failure, dude. Come on. Come on. Think about it.
There's a lot of good things about Yugoslavia,
but ultimately we should not aspire to that model.
Revolt, go ahead, Revoltini.
Your beard looks like pubic hairs,
and I'm going to come on it right now.
What a fucking crazy.
Like what is just like TikTok is just anyone can just say anything they want.
Like that person was waiting there for an hour. They were waiting there for an hour they were waiting there for an hour
they were sitting there for one hour
and as soon as they were given the opportunity to be brought up
it's like they were like,
it's my turn.
Finally, I can like,
I can get this off my chest.
It's just a very,
we live in a very disturbed
mentally ill generation of people.
I mean, I don't know what to say.
That guy was waiting for one hour to say that.
Water, go ahead.
Do you think Cuba should have done the reforms like 10, 15 years ago?
And it depends on what you mean by the reforms.
I don't know all the details of this reform. So I wouldn't sign off on it, you know, carte de Blanche.
But I would say that the Chinese path, or even if they can't do the Chinese path, the Vietnamese path, Yeah, they should have a long time ago.
All right.
All right, bye-bye.
All right, this topic is not engaging.
So we're going to switch it up a little bit before we bring on our next guests
and we are going to maybe we could attract. Okay, so we could have this topic
And it will test it if it's interesting
But we'll we can find by it
It's type of bait, you know
Go ahead
Here to mainly talk about
on your opinion on
whether or not China is socialist
or like yes it is
yeah but like
why do you think it's socialist
well China Yeah, but like, why do you think it's socialist?
Well, China's motive production is ultimately governed by social principles.
I mean, there's in every mode of production?
Not consciously, no.
Not in a way that is based in a scientific knowledge, no.
In an alienated way, yes, but
China
is an economy where
the logic of production is governed by
the
development, the development and uplifting of the Chinese people, you know, and that's not a logic governed by the
self-relation of capital.
So when you talk about what is the primary mode of production that governs China,
it is based on the fulfillment of social principles goals and aspirations so that's a socialist country
what you're underwater i don't know why you're underwater i don't know why you're underwater. I don't know why you're underwater.
Is this a prank? Like, what's going on?
Dude, no, it's just a capitalist technology. It's fixed now.
All right. All right. Yeah, look, so you're just kind of pointing to the material gains made in China?
No, no.
I'm talking about what is the system for?
For example, there's a logic of the Chinese mode of production.
It's a relationship between the state banks, the various kind of enterprises, the state-owned enterprises. They're operating on the basis of some kind of rationale and logic. And that logic is not just rooted in the blind pursuit of profit. If you look at the Chinese system in its totality, it's governed by a logic that is meant to fulfill
social goals, aspirations, and principles.
And if you take a microscope and you look at it, you know, separated from the hole,
it looks like people are just trying to make money and just trying to, you know, pursue profit,
which might be true for people individually, right?
But when you zoom out, there's a system that's working for a specific reason and in a specific way. And that ultimately overrides all of the private motivations and incentives of people across the economy. And what's nice about that is that that knowledge of that is rooted in the center.
So if you're just a random person who grows up and wakes up in China, you don't have to carry and shoulder the burden of reproducing or creating a social or uplifting or somehow
fulfilling socialist
principles.
You can just
be a normal
human being
living a normal
human life
to benefit
yourself, your
family,
but you're
ultimately
fulfilling a
socialist system.
And that's
a more mature form of socialism.
The type of socialism that has people
continuously just focused on ideology
and fulfilling the purity of socialist principles
is a society that has not yet developed a particular content of civil society that actually is substantive where people are allowed to just okay we agree with socialism but what's the human part?
What's going to actually determine our relationship to other people, our life?
It's like, existentially, ideology is not enough to fulfill the meaning of being human, right?
You're underwater.
People and the state of China, right?
I don't see how it's much different in, say,
like, social is Venezuela, and isn't necessarily... No, it's much different than Venezuela.
You would say that Venezuela isn't putting the collective needs of their people first and they're putting their... I would say Venezuela is not a comprehensive socialist system.
Venezuela has some socialist institutions, but ultimately the Venezuelan economy is not so aligned holistically that it works in concert and in unison to fulfill this kind of like plan, you know?
There's much less of a strategic control the Venezuelan government has over all the sectors of the
Venezuelan economy working in unison. So, for example, Venezuela doesn't have necessarily
a unified industrial strategy that has all the main economic institutions aligned with it, right?
There are many economic institutions in Venezuela, which are disaligned with the socialist government, but there are some that are aligned, right?
Namely the oil sector.
And Venezuela never built socialism in the way China or the USSR did.
So it never had the foundation of a socialist system.
It never took root comprehensively in the nation.
You're underwater. I don't know what's going on.
You're definitely underwater, man. actually actually crazy it's never been this bad actually crazy it's never been this bad all right anyhow
yet I didn't even remember I was going to have things say to.
How's... Haas. Rape me. Rape my nigger cunt. Please rape me. You know, Thank you. I'm still muted.
Once of I'm still muted.
Still?
Still? still oh we're back
okay Jesus Christ
my TikToks
can keep getting restricted
into oblivion because of something
I'm not even responsible for
like it's straight up not my fault because of something I'm not even responsible for.
Like, it's straight up, not my fault.
There needs to be a five-second delay before your end and their actual life.
How do I do that?
I don't know how to do that.
Otherwise, Larry Ellison, it's like, why is it my fault, dude? Well, oh, what's up, man? Like like why is it my fault dude
wello what's up man
like why is it my fault that people do this
uh
shovel head go ahead
hello
yeah
have you read that uh have you read that uh you ever read that, like, Eastern Philosophy guy?
He was like an India super pro piece. What was his name?
No.
It's like, it's like Gondai? No. It's like, it's a Gondi?
No.
You did a red Gondi?
Gondi?
Sug on these nuts.
Sug on these nuts.
It's red. Hold on. I didn't catch that. I on these nuts. It's red.
Hold on.
I didn't catch that.
I've been focused on this.
What was that?
You said?
I said suck on the...
I couldn't hear you.
Can you...
Oh, are you disconnected?
Oh, that's a shame.
Okay, we have the right-wing bait ones that are not working.
So let's do some liberal bait.
Okay, this one might work.
User, go ahead. I don't like this profile picture.
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
I'm not, I'm not risking that.
I'm not risking that one.
ACPR neoliberals that support private property.
You are a Reddit rediter who learned about Marxism five months ago and you don't even know like anything about Marxism.
You are a Redditor and that's all I have to respond to you with.
You're a Redditor and therefore like you, nothing you say matters.
You're just like someone who found out about Marxism a month ago.
You know what? Red Ambience. Should I debate leftcoms? Alvin from Alvin in the Chipmucks, no way. Go ahead.
Hello, I am Alvin.
Alvin loves when has
rapes nigger cunts
Jesus Christ
Chris, thank you.
It's like
Larry Elson, how is that my fault? And Larry Elson will say that's it's like Larry Ellison
how is that my fault
and Larry Ellison
will say that's my fault
how is that my fault
how is it my fault
how is that my fault
people can say anything
it's like
how is that my fault?
Chris, what's up?
Um, it's like, I, the internet is like, it's Redditors or it's those people.
It's like, what do you do?
What do you do? It's Reditors or it's those people. It's like, what do you do? What do you do? It's Reditors or it's those people?
Go ahead, user. Oh, not this guy. Not this guy.
What's up, bro? What's going on?
Where has communists?
I don't like this profile picture.
You got something to say.
Or they left.
Okay. This is like, uh... This is like crazy, you know.
You can add stream delay.
Okay, how do i do that well i don't want to delay my stream also what good would that do if i delay the stream all stream delay does is make it so you can end the stream before something bad happens.
I don't want to keep having to end the stream.
Can't AI solve this issue?
Like Larry Ellison straight up holds me accountable for what other people do.
It's crazy.
Tom, go ahead.
I'm going to rape you in your nigger cunts.
Oh, my God.
You know, it's like I'm trying to click disconnect, and there's a delay between me because I have it I have my finger on the
trigger to hit disconnect as soon as they talk but for some reason when I click it there's a delay
and it it lets them say the full sentence.
I think there's these, this is a Claude AI.
Someone is commissioned a Claude AI to do this. YouTube is not the move for this.
YouTube might be the move for other things.
YouTube is not the move for this.
I would never stream this to YouTube.
The crazy shit people say here, are you kidding?
I get banned from youtube right away all right let's try a different topic. Go ahead, Jar Jar. go ahead jar jar hey um have you studied um sorry i hear an echo i just disconnected um go Go ahead, Yolo.
Huss. I'm gonna ring. Hell no. Hell no. I caught him. Caught him.
Got that one. 45, go ahead.
Hello?
Uh, I would say...
Hell nah.
Got him.
Uh, Jar, Jar, go ahead.
Let me check the echo.
We're good, we're good.
Now, I was going to ask if he's in Marxism.
If what?
If he stood in Marxism, Carl Marks, angles,
all that.
This guy's about to say some crazy shit.
What kind of...
Have you studied Carl Marx?
User, go ahead.
What do you think of Cuba's
free...
Hey, guy. You were talking too fast.
You were talking way too fast.
You were talking, you were way too excited.
Whatever you were about to say, you were too excited to say it.
And I just kind of have
an instinct that I have a knack
for
you know it's like the guy was wanting to talk
about Cuba but it's like that was a
okay no I totally believe
you right go ahead my fault
what do you think of cuba's free market reforms
that they're doing or not free market reforms well what do you think of them like what
they what are they doing if it's if they're like china and vietnam it'll be good for cuba but
if it's that they surrender political control and they start loosening up on that front, it'll be a disaster.
Thank you, sir.
Okay.
Revoltini was the really bad one, right? Get rid of that guy forever.
Jesus Christ.
They sound pretty bad.
It's already...
I don't know anything about it.
I'll just tell you if they loosen up political control, that'll be
a disaster.
Uh, I know. Tung Tung Sahoo, Tung Sahoo.
Tung Sahoo.
I know that song.
I don't know why Haas expects good faith debates or interactions at 1 a.m. on Sunday night.
Like, why bother with these late night streams?
I mean, you know, I didn't really say I expected anything, actually.
I just thought, whatever we can get, we'll take.
Our teen, go ahead.
Hi.
I don't want to jibber jabber for too long.
I was wondering what your thoughts on Burger King Accelerationism was.
It's not as funny as the Best Buy
one. The Best Buy one is funny because
it's like has a, it's like
technological. Like Best Buy is
where you buy tech, tech products.
So Best Buy accelerationism
sounds funny. It's like, it's actually funny. It's like Accelerationism sounds funny.
It's like,
it's actually funny.
It's like,
T.
Mu,
Nickland.
It's actually hilarious.
But the Burger,
the Burger King one is not funny.
You have to find,
if you said something like Burger King,
uh,
okay,
I'll come up with one.
Burger King,
um,
acceleration of them with Nealphalangus.
No, no, no, no, no, no, it doesn't work.
Absolutely doesn't work.
If you would say something like,
um,
uh, what would be,
it has,
it's,
this one doesn't,
this one would sound good if you're a nerd,
but if you're not a nerd,
doesn't sound good.
I'd say like Burger King Corporatism.
Or Burger King Yellow Unionism.
It's like they're so niche.
You got to like, you got to like have, it's like the vibe of Burger King.
It's like it had to be like Burger King Mussolini thought or something.
I'll work on it.
I'll work on it. You've got to work on it. Yeah, because it's like
you want to make it about Burger King. It's like
No, Burger King
Abundance, liberalism.
That's quite the hodgepodge.
That's quite the hodgepodge.
Defender of Hidden Truth.
No, not this anime shit.
Not in a million years.
No, you can't request again.
Get out of here.
It's not anime. I don't care.
All right.
It's not anime.
Then what the hell is it? Go ahead.
Bro, it's a Vatican mascot. I don't care. I don't care. What do you want?
Listen, listen. I just wanted to say Fuentes and Julius Evila own you. Like, why would you even subscribe to your like communist ideology like someone that
subscribes to Julius Avola makes more sense than a communist all right so can you
can you describe and explain what Julius Ivola's ideas were?
His ideas were essentially having the aristocratic soul, your aristocratic spirit inside of you.
I mean, his views were very pretty much just anti-French Revolution, anti-Lightman.
His anti-French Revolution and he was an aristocrat of the soul.
But he was a pagan, which was cringe.
He was, and he was against Abrahamic religions. So according to you the main point of julius avola
is to be an aristocrat of the soul
is that when you have the
no glass with chalky milk in it
is that what you mean no no no no
what do you mean the main point was
he believed that uh the world was in decay, right?
And essentially,
we had to surf the Kalayuga.
And that he believed
that we were in a state of decay,
we were in a sense of cycle.
He took a lot of ideas from Hinduism and these so-called Aryan religions, and he essentially
believed in some sort of hierarchy, wanted to bring back hierarchy.
I would rate your knowledge of Avala as someone who actually has read a little bit of Avolta.
I would rate your knowledge at
maybe like a um
a four out of like
a thousand maybe
god's cope dude
and who even reads a vola look it's just funny
it's like a meme yeah you're just like
he's a meme well yeah evola is just like a meme, yeah. You're just like, Evala is just like...
He's a meme.
Well, yeah, Evala is just like a completely sphineless, cowardly.
Like, if you're just a limp-risted, lifeless, you know, you know, corpse,
I guess that would be very compelling.
It's just a road to nowhere, you know.
Now, regarding Flentes, who is himself a corpse, he's like a skeleton, about 110 pounds or something.
I don't know
in what world does
what does Nick Flintas have to offer?
What's the path forward to America?
And what do you have to offer?
You talk about this sort of maggie communism?
A lot.
Like what?
Like what?
What would your solution be to something like usury, to central banking?
Why is my lie restricted?
Because of this nonsense.
Okay.
What would my solution be to usury, really?
Well, I'll tell you what we believe that Nick Fuentes doesn't believe.
We actually believe in abolishing the Federal Reserve and having a state public bank that's owned by the sovereign and not owned by a private cartel of bankers.
I don't disagree with that. Yeah, but Nick Fuentes literally said in a clip that he wants to preserve the Federal Reserve. We also don't disagree with that yeah but nick flintas literally said in a clip that he wants to preserve the
federal reserve we also don't believe in usury at all so we would we would abolish usury
which clip did he defend the federal was he simply yes he did, he did. He said he wants to preserve the federal reserve.
No, he defended fiat currency.
No, he said the federal reserve.
He defends labor back currency.
He said the federal reserve is good.
I know he said something about
him not believing in a lot of the central banking
conspiracies. You don't even know your own leader.
He did say that. No, I have. I've seen the clips.
I've never seen him say specifically
that he defends the Federal Reserve.
He simply said that he...
He simply said that he doesn't believe in the of Federal Reserve. He said he wants to preserve the Federal Reserve.
He simply said that he doesn't believe in the conspiracies around Central Banking or the
FBI of Central Banking.
He said he is pro-federal Reserve.
He said he's pro-federal Reserve. federal reserve.
Oh shit, he goes.
I believe in a planned economy with the Federal Reserve distributing vouchers.
So essentially, he believes in... And the Federal Reserve is a private cartel of banks it's not a state bank
yeah yeah i know it's a privatized bank i know about the whole ross child saying so the whole um
so yeah we believe in developmental finance.
We don't believe in usury and the private banking cartels.
And by the way, let's just be honest and just you don't even need developmental finance.
You could just go straight into communism through AI.
We don't even need a deal with banks no that's that's no yeah we can just go straight we should have third positionism look we should
have cynicism we should not have communism we don't need a third position we already have we do we do
we need hierarchy do you not agree with that?
When did we say we're against hierarchy?
Never.
Can you repeat that again?
When did we say we're against hierarchy?
That's nonsense. That's what your ideology.
That's what your ideology is literally opposed.
What communist state didn't have hierarchy in it that's nonsense so uh we had they wanted to transition into an era without hierarchy that's literally what they advocated for that's not true at all that's absolutely what they advocated for no no even Nope. Even in common. And that's why the policies failed.
Why do you think the collectivization policies?
It didn't fail, though.
That caused a hard warmer under sound failed.
It did not fail.
Did not fail.
Bro, he got 20 million people killed because he redistributed the agriculture
right 20 million people
the ownership of the agriculture from the Kulaks
and the goidomar
that they didn't even know how to run it
the goydomor where 20 million people died
you really believe that
yeah and you believe in a hollow hoax uh Goidemore where 20 million people died You really believe that?
Yeah, and you believe in a holooges?
I definitely What is more likely?
The people that were like, yeah, we need to just straight up
get rid of these people.
Or, you know, Stalin just randomly
just like, just trying like destroying I think starving
20 million Ukrainians
let me tell you something
I think starving people
is a more common
and more obvious message
compared to this Hollywood nonsense
of roller coasters
and these camps
okay so it had swimming pools
hospitals that gave birth
to babies gas chambers
that didn't even have residue
of Zyclam B
but the de lausing chambers
did have residue of that Prussian
blue. So let me ask
so the people who
like were very open about how they
wanted a final solution of some kind or something, that's more unlikely that they were, you know,
trying to exterminate, you know, those people. But it's likely that Stalin
somehow killed 20 million people
through starvation.
You actually believe that?
No, I simply said,
all right, first of all right, first of all,
with the whole final solution
nonsense, yada, yada, I believe that
they were put in labor camps. I do believe that the
numbers were over a million right i'm
not one of those 271 k war i do believe something like ides that's group and it doesn't
happen i just don't believe in the deaf camps and i think that's nonsensical okay but we're
talking about the so that makes more sense than um we're talking about we're talking about
it makes more sense now it doesn't then the hollow hoax yes absolutely
you don't think that it doesn't make any sense for the failed collectivization policies
of salin they didn't cause of the long term they million people. In the long term, they did not fail.
So in the long term, they didn't, look, did the empire essentially grow?
Sure.
But did 20 million people become casualties as a result of it?
There's no, like, 20 million, really,
where did you get that?
Why not just say 200 million?
If you're just going to throw out these giant numbers
that have no basis in reality.
It was around 10 million plus.
That's believable.
Those are the estimates.
So now it's 10 million.
Those are the estimates.
So you're saying no one died from the hall of the army.
That's what you legitimately believe.
First of all, I'm going to teach you something about Russia.
First of all, famines were not uncommon in the Russian Empire.
They happened all the time.
Second of all, when you scale populations and you factor in all the people affected by a famine and a bad harvest, which is malnutrition and all that kind of stuff, at scale, that's how they tally up these numbers that create these huge numbers, right?
So the number is about three, ballpark three, four million, right?
Who die of directly as a cause of this famine.
But when you scale the numbers of people, when you scale mortality rates in a population, you're dealing
with a huge scale. You're dealing with giant populations with tens of millions, hundreds of millions
of people in them, right? And to say that the mortality rate going higher, that means Stalin directly is like killing all of these people.
That's not how it works. Systems are oftentimes, if you look up the amount of deaths that are caused by capitalism, deaths that could be preventable, given our level of technology and given our abilities, millions of people are dying annually, right? I think it's about one million per year. So 10 years in America is 10 million people dead for reasons, for things that are preventable given our level of
technology and organization as a society well and we don't know that we don't count that as a
death toll though because we're just saying that's natural so it it's all relative to what you consider, what you
expect, and what's natural. For a long period under the czarist period, the mortality rate was
quite high, and famines happened all the time and no one cared. Now, in the USSR, when they
switched to collectivization to turbostart their industrialization, which they had to do to have a chance in the war that would come 10 years later, there is a disruption in the agricultural system in the country. And that caused, that contributed contributed I should rather say to a famine because
remember it was a drought year so if this was under the czar it would have happened either way
right but granted you know the chaos and the the rapid degree of the change changing of the
agricultural system caused a massive disruption in how food was and the rapid degree of the changing of the agricultural
system caused a massive disruption
in how food was produced and distributed.
Now, I think
that was the last famine
discounting the one that was
a cause of World War II. That was the last
famine that ever occurred in the history of Russia or the history of the cause of World War II. That was the last famine that ever occurred in the
history of Russia or the history of the Russian Empire, former Russian. That's the last famine, okay.
Yeah. And to say it was a genocide and it was intentional, it was complete nonsense. So, and, and to say
the cause of it was egalitarianism is also wrong because the Soviet Union at no point in its history espoused the absence of hierarchy.
Bolshevik party was founded on hierarchy.
Every single principle espoused by the Bolsheviks, every understanding of socialism was always rooted in a hierarchy, a chain of command, a clear understanding that there are those who have more power than others, and that is just fundamental to Soviet socialism from the beginning.
So, first of all, the notion that there's a Holodomor is false.
And then second of all, the idea that whatever mishaps that happened in the communist systems throughout history are where a consequence
of the absence of hierarchy is also
nonsense. Well, I never said
Sound did it intentionally. I'm saying
that his policies failed and I'm saying that
in the intentional level, he did
try to remove the Kulax, right?
He did take the lives of the Kulax.
Which was based.
That's true.
In any case, the Kualax were usurers.
You're against usury, but the Koolax were literally the people that were subjecting Russia's peasants to usury.
Even if you didn't agree with what the Kulax did his solution was literally to
redistribute um yeah the ownership of the agriculture right to people that didn't even know how to manage it
which is what caused the famine in the first place no that's not even if it wasn't intentional not
at all it caused by stupidity it's not at all what caused the famine it's absolutely what caused the famine that's not at all what caused the famine that's literally what caused the famine and also he denied aid no he also denied aid either it's also also a lie. He literally denied
aid to Ukraine. Yeah, are you looking on
Reddit for more lies? Because I can just debunk
every single one. You read it, the
communist source. So left this communist
atheist website. You are literally a reditor.
You are literally a reditor. Yeah,
yeah, totally, man. Totally.
Yeah, I'm left. There's not a single
thing you said about the events of the Soviet
period that's rooted in reality.
That's literally all true.
That's all the... I saw it already.
I saw it on the history channel, so it's true. No, it's not.
It promises not. Yeah, it's not. You promise it's not.
Yeah, it's not.
Okay.
Right.
And it's so totally true that camps, you know, gas chambers, that literally didn't have any scenes of oppression blue.
Why are you pivoting to something else?
Because I just find a ridiculous right you think this
is just crazy to believe
you're pivoting away
you think this because you think
the hard arm is something crazy to believe
it's absolutely but you believe
and all of these other crazy
nonsensical claims. I genuinely
believe that the Germans
in Eastern Europe were going around massacring
people and I know it for a fact.
Sure. I'm not going to
deny that they were shooting people.
Okay. So that's the only thing that matters to me.
My claim... No, no, hold on.
Hold on.
My claim is that there weren't kept can.
My understanding of the meaningfulness of why the Nazis were evil bastards begins
and ends there.
They were going around trying to exterminate people and slaughter them and kill them.
They were going after political enemies, which you think is based for. to exterminate people and slaughter them and kill them. Now, they were
going after political enemies, which you think
is based for us down to do. It wasn't just
political enemies. It was people that
they deemed subhuman.
No, it was literally political enemies. That's what
Einstein's Rubin was. They treated Russians
as subhuman. They had no regard for the lives of Russians. They crafted entire plans for the starvation of Ukraine deliberately to feed Germany, the whatever it was called General Plan Aust or whatever. Yeah, we know he hated Slavs.
I know that.
Correct.
I'm not denying that.
So that's enough for me that they were evil bastards, you know?
No, but the point is that a lot of those casualties, a vast majority were political enemies, just like that's not plausible at all.
You're saying it was bad for the Germans to do that.
We're talking about a total death toll of 27 million in the USSR.
How could all 27 million of those people be politically engaged subjects?
It's not true.
They were massacres.
There was great purges.
They were killing.
They were literally Netanyahu murderers killing civilians and innocent people.
That's what they were doing.
And there was also literal like movements of atheism to persecute the religious.
I can give you the name of the actual atheists party. Why are you pivoting? Why are you pivoting?
We know about the League of Milton Atheist was not doing genocide. It wasn't just exterminating people.
League of Milton Atheists was conducting anti-religious propaganda that was tolerated by Stalin reluctantly or ambivalently, and then it was
cracked down upon before World War II starts, by the way. So, why is that, how is that comparable?
How is anti-religious propaganda comparable to...
It wasn't just anti-religious propaganda.
The anti-religious campaigns led to the deaths of over 100,000 orthodox priests.
That number is completely made up.
Made up. You think 100,000 is made up now.
100,000% made up now.
100,000 percent. You just made, that number is totally fabricated. Do you know what the Great Terror is?
They killed. You're talking about different things.
The victims of the Great Terror were
primarily the people perpetuting
the anti-religious campaigns.
The same type of person...
There was 85,000 clergymen that were shot.
The primary victims
of the Great Terror were themselves
in the Bolshevik Party.
What are you talking about? Majority
of the victims of the Great Terror were at the top.
That's...'s it's literally clergymen that were shot I can give you the name that's fake that's totally fake
How is that fake?
It's just made up
It's made up
By who?
Who even made this up?
The U.S.?
The CIA.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Anti-communist filth.
You know, counter-revolutionary.
Emma Grays combined with the CIA
who, in the post-war period,
along with the OSS and the British, immediately begun this campaign of fabricating all these horror stories about Stalin's Soviet Union.
That's not true. There's already evidence of this happening prior to the cia there were already accounts of
this where yeah from nazi germany who just who also made it up so the 1937 soviet census
literally said that there was little markers of deaths right through the nk NKVD, the precursor to the KGB during the Great Terror in 1937, right?
So we know that legitimately shifted its own.
Yeah, a bunch of corrupt leaders who worm their way up in the Bolshevik party and bureaucrats were killed.
No, it was not just bureaucrats.
Nobody denied there was a great terror, but you're saying that the victims of the great terror were mainly clergy and stuff.
That's not true. A bunch of nonsense.
There's at least 85,000 clergymen that died, yes. No, that's not true. A bunch of nonsense. There's at least 85,000 clergymen
that died, yes.
No, that's fake.
How is that fake?
Where are you getting those numbers?
Give me your citation.
Where are you getting those numbers?
Of this before.
Okay, where are you getting that number?
From where?
The number?
Yeah.
Well, what's the primary source take into the primary source by the way
sure thing i can give you the primary source so
most of these numbers i'll admit
do come from Wikipedia, right?
But they do get primary sources.
It can be wrong about some things.
But just because it's wrong about some things doesn't mean it doesn't provide sources.
No, okay, so look at where does Wikipedia cite it from?
Sure.
Tung-tungur Tung Sahur
Tung Sahur
Tung Sahur
Tung Sahur
Tung Sahu
Tung Tung Sahur
Tung Sahur
Tung Sahur so you get it so
yep
you have the
nkvd execution logs and the arrest records
you have
hold on cite me the primary source
that justifies the idea 80,000 were killed
sure thank you clergyman 80,000.
But you want to know how you gave yourself away
you don't even know it but you said it
so if you the fact that you need to find the evidence
for the thing you already committed to without knowledge
discredits you Chris what's up's like, you stated it as a fact
without even knowing if there's a primary source that's credible behind it. You should have done
your research first. Right? Is that unreasonable? It's like, why are we doing this why why do you have to look up the source
if you're saying it you should have some familiarity with where the source of the thing you're saying
it comes from you just remember hearing it from somewhere, but you don't actually
remember doing the due diligence
to figure out if it's actually true or not. and and and and with this all started from this idea that communists deny hierarchy not true
not true engels said there has to be a captain of the ship
always you know you there's always going to be authority. Nobody said we deny authority.
We believe in the withering away of the state.
We never said the withering away of authority.
Who said that?
Who said there's going to be a withering way of authority?
Ain't nobody said that.
There's always going to be authority.
There's not going to be a state because it's superfluous.
There's going to be a central
authority for sure,
but it's not going to be a state.
It's going to be a central authority that
seamlessly, it's going to be
such a beautiful regime. It's going to be a regime that seamlessly, it's going to be such a beautiful regime.
It's going to be a regime that seamlessly and organically is part of the metabolism of mankind.
You know, it's just like a muscle.
It's like how the body works.
You have a brain.
You have, it's just going to be totally seamless.
There's going to be no antagonism.
That's communism.
There's going to be a central authority.
Nobody said there isn't.
The existence of the state presupposes class antagonisms.
When class antagonisms disappear, the functions of the state
seamlessly become a central authority that is primarily concerned with the administration of things.
From Frederick Engels.
Tribal elders.
And nobody said it's going to be tribal elders, bro. Stop larping. It's not going to be tribal elders and nobody said it's going to be tribal elders bro
stop larping it's not going to be tribal elders
we're not going to go back to we're not going to
larp as indigenous
the whole thing about you know
we need all 8 billion people in the world
need to emulate the ways and practices
of
pre-agricultural societies
I have to tell you something
if we all adopted the practices of the various tribes
that exist in the Amazon that you're worshipping,
there would not be 8 billion people. That's not enough to support that many people.
There would be no way to support the level of population we have now. If we went back, if we adopted and emulated, when people, sometimes people are like, we need to go back to the indigenous ways of living.
It's like, well, if you mean by that, living in harmony with nature, it's like, but that can't support 8 billion people.
Without modern industry, you don't have this many people that exist in our living now.
Tung, Tung, Tung, sahoo. By the way, if you're a fan of the content, you should drop a 20 right now.
If you want to, if you want it to continue tomorrow, you should drop a 20 now.
And why?
Well, because Tung, Tung, Sahur.
Tung Sahur.
Hold on The one in Fortnite.
Shut the fuck up, you react streaming, piece of shit. This is not the Tung song.
Chris, what's up, man? Thank you. This is the one.
No, it's the wrong song. I can't find it.
Wait, is it called Last Sohor?
Oh, the outro, yeah, this must be it.
Wait, it says in 2036, this is going to be the top comment on YouTube.
No, this is not it this is not it this is not it
ACP lacks praxis
oh brother
what are you talking about we lack praxis are you talking about?
We lack praxis.
Are you crazy in your head?
What could praxis possibly look like except what the ACP is doing on a daily basis?
What do you mean go to protest? Is that praxis? What is praxis to you?
If, bro, I'm like, it's so crazy. What is praxis to you? Literally go ACP main on X every single day.
Minnesota's building a rural library
where they're attending a strike somewhere.
They're like, what prax?
How will we lack?
It's the dumbest criticism of us by far.
There's only one criticism of ASP
that makes sense. We don't have enough people.
We need 10,000 people
in the party. Like, that's the only legit
criticism. Not enough people, not enough money.
It's literally, like, almost a perfect party.
There's no such thing as a perfect party, but it's like it's pretty close to just like the top level of what something like this could be.
Go ahead, Jamal.
Yo,
how we doing,
Oz?
Terribly.
Dude,
so I was actually
a gifted,
so I've been watching
for a minute.
I feel like I'm the
only Hoosier
who is like
ACP curious,
I'd say.
I really just don't have a way to outreach
but you know
I really got to know though
like what's your take on
William Z Foster
um
he was good
yeah like what's like why do you like die in moscow like the whole thing he like left
like was he getting like persecutor or something or what um i think he just got older
i think that he
also
may have been disillusioned with the
de-Stalinization but kept quiet because he was
a loyal communist
um but you know
so I really got to know
what is the CPUSA like 2036 what does that mean exactly
well before acp started we wanted to take make the c p u s a into something great and we said that
by 2036 we should be
a mass move into millions of people
um
so that's what it means
what do you what do you think about like the
hoagist group like the APL
and uh like PSL
and stuff like that
um and like PSL and stuff like that.
Like would you fight with them?
No, I wouldn't fight with them.
It's just I just don't,
I don't understand the appeal of the APL to anyone.
It's like, what are we doing here?
Like, I mean, to be honest, I don't really know much about hoagism. I just know
it's like in some sense anti-revisionous.
But it's like what, in what world is that
going to prevail in this country?
Yeah, I mean, that would be kind of hard to even get
an American to even understand well not
even that it's just like on what timeline is that the decisive position that will define the future
of marxism it's like okay hojo was right okay what does that mean practically it's like hojo was right. Okay, what does that mean practically?
It's like Hojo was right, was he right, though, fully, though, because what happened after Hoja died?
Right, sure, yeah.
You know, these people call themselves Marxists.
I'll critique Hojaism.
You call yourself a Marxist, but you have this idea that Hoja's
praxis is just confined to him as an
individual, meaning he has no responsibility
for the institution of the
Albanian proletarian dictatorship,
such that beyond his death there would at least be an ability for him to be replaced by someone who would continue to uphold the principles of Marxism-Leninism. No, that's not his fault, though, because he's just an individual. Really, is that Marxism? Do Marxists say that we just are individuals and there's no responsibility for actually, like, does none of our practice
actually involve building the proletarian dictatorship to have leadership beyond you personally.
I feel like it's a true clear bomb that there's
there could not possibly be a response to.
No, that's
totally fair.
I'm actually super curious.
So you guys, are you like completely paired with Midwestern marks or did you guys just like fuse together?
Because I see their publication. It's different than Red America, right? The Jazz.
I was honestly wondering, like, how did they get a known chomsky
interview on that years ago i've just been wondering about that because you guys seem like
different than chomsky you know no midwestern marks is very different from chomsky but i'm
guess they interview a lot of people.
Yeah, we are, I mean, they, they, they are part of ACP.
And we, the media outlet of infrared Midwestern Marks is they're different media groups but they are aligned on everything that matters that's totally fair I got to ask you think Carlos has read all those books
behind him? I'm kind of joking
but I think so
I would say so
yeah fair
all right well
see you later
yeah hey man appreciate it
take care
toong toong it. Take care.
Toong, tune,
sahur.
True
philosophy gets five minutes,
now in two minutes, honestly,
or one minute.
You know, was like,
what if I
make a good point
now?
So I perv
last time I prevailed
on Marxist
Blackville,
I know this.
I proved
that they fetishize
objectivity.
I proved
to one of stuff.
I don't want to
talk about this
again.
I'm ending the TikTok, right?
Guys, I'll see you at a better,
more reasonable hour.
Maybe tomorrow.
Maybe tomorrow.
All right, I ended the tic-tok
now will i end the stream
guys ones if i should stream tomorrow
uh i think i think i should stream tomorrow. I think I need to
get the live streams up.
I need to stream earlier.
Chris, what's up?
Sneiko said he wanted to stream with me.
Gonna need a source on that one, because I don't believe that at all.
Chris, what's up?
Where did you get that?
Bro, you're a troll.
Straight up troll.
Go back to Twitch occasionally, see if it boosts.
Mecca rep.
Bro, I love this advice.
I keep responding to this advice.
He said on stream, well, like, bro, show me, show me.
Bro, I love this advice from people like, yo, Haas, go to YouTube, go to Twitch.
I'm like, bro.
If I was an affluent person, if I had a salary, if I was being paid passively in some way beyond the streams even just through Patreon
if you guys believe in Twitch
get my Patreon up
to like
3,500
and I will fucking
I will be on a different platform
every fucking day
but I wouldn't ask that of you
because it's like
you're just giving me shit
if you want platform independence
we have to have a Patreon that has at least 3,500, which is not even enough to cover my bills, but it would give me enough security to, you know, if you want platform independence, support the Patreon.
I am stuck on kick because of the revenue split that's on kick.
And I think that's better for you guys.
For those of you that want to support me,
if you were
supporting me on YouTube, YouTube takes 30%
of it. Or if you
were supporting me on Twitch, God forbid,
Twitch would take 50%. Support me on Twitch, God forbid, Twitch would take 50%.
Support me on kick, I get, like, everything that you spend.
I get, like, 95% of it.
3,500, I mean, ballpark.
Realistically, if it reached
$2,500,
I would start
Twitch grinding.
Tpo,
what's up?
But it's like,
um,
like,
for example,
if the Patreon
was more,
I would stream
more often on Twitch. or YouTube, you know?
It's just like, and I'm not saying the Patreon deserves to be more.
There's not a lot of content on it, and it's like, this is the main way you guys support me.
But there would have to be a transfer from kick to Patreon
you know
if that's what you guys want remember
you pay me
to continue doing content
if you want the content to be off kick,
then we need to
you need to change the medium
through which you support me.
Instead of kick, you should go through
Patreon, you know?
So that's kind of my take. My family of five in a U.S.
suburb gets by comfortably on $4,000 a month.
Stop buying avocado toast and iPhones.
I don't eat out.
I haven't eaten out in a month.
I don't have a family of four.
Five people get by on 4K a month.
I don't fucking believe that.
I don't fucking believe that.
Am I crazy ones if I'm crazy?
You live in a U.S. suburb and
a family of five can survive on
4K a month. Do you pay
rent? Do you even pay an
HOA fee if you own your home?
How do you pay rent? Because
mortgage
HOA home how do you pay rent because mortgage h away that's the number one thing that gets me right
it's like bro 4k for five people where do i put the sneeco clip just put it here
or put it in the discord
Mexicans
are financially op
bro I have never heard of that
five people on 4K a month O. Bro, I have never heard of that.
Five people on 4K a month. What do you mean in account?
Property tax.
Yeah, it's not even accounting taxes.
That's more than enough in poor states.
I'm interested.
I could not even consider that.
4K is enough for five people a month
in the U.S.
I would kill and make that much money. Interesting.
I'm from Mississippi and 48K a year with five people would be majorly struggling.
Yeah, I don't know, like, bro, what are you talking about?
Five people on 4K a month, I've never heard of anything like that.
Lava, what's up?
Bro, bro, said I have avocado toast.
The house was bought in the recession for 30K.
Bro has a house paid off that he bought in a recession for 30K.
And it's talking about how he's...
And I bet you have savings too.
Bro, don't sit here and say 4K is enough for five people.
You're crazy.
I look like an avocado.
Bro, what are you talking about?
With a Costco membership, it's doable.
Food is not the biggest expense I have by far at all.
Guys, why are we changing the topic, right? It's all content-based.
You want more of the content, then support it.
I'm not entitled to anything.
I'm literally not entitled to anything.
You want more content than support the infrared broadcast
for more infrared content.
You want me on Twitch?
You want me on YouTube more?
Then support the broadcast.
Simple as that.
I'm telling you, if you want me on Twitch,
then let's just go through Patreon instead of Kick, you know?
And, uh, because Kick, I, I'll tell you why.
On Twitch, if I go to Twitch twitch i'm not monetizing the twitch
the reason i wouldn't monetize twitch is because if you monetize it you have ad breaks that
twitch will enforce so the only way i could be on twitch is if I don't monetize it.
There's not going to be subscriptions.
There's not going to be any monetization on Twitch.
It will just be a broadcast to get the live stream there, right?
So Twitch, I would never monetize on Twitch.
I go back to on Twitch, no problem. But there has to be a plan for, like, how is that
sustainable, you know? And I'm saying this is you guys have the remote control. I'm not saying, oh, you have to support me or something.
I'm saying if you have the remote control, you want to switch the infrared channel to Twitch.
You have to find, you have to support me to make that happen.
Otherwise, I'm not going to do it.
Can I mail you cash?
Hell yeah.
Nah, that's a trap.
Actually, yeah,
I'll find a location you can mail it to.
No problem.
Absolutely, you can mail me cash. I have a location you can mail the cash to how about that there's more reach please tell me your address
okay first you need to tell me
um
what a weird scary ass name too it's like a serial killer merch go back to
to twitch I don't have any friends on Twitch, that's a problem.
I don't have Twitch friends.
The only, honestly, the only people I know on Twitch anymore is the i know the kiana network that's it
i could stream with her she would she would have me back on that's it
the days of the zirka Royale, those were OP.
That was like actually good content.
But nowadays on Twitch, I have no network at all. also nobody like
let me tell you something
streaming has become so oversaturated
and it's
like
I
um
streaming has become majorly over saturated in the sense that like the things that were funny and entertaining
um five years ago there's become so much more extreme like even, even Zerker Royals
is SpongeBob SquarePants compared
to, like, the streaming
shit that goes viral,
it's like, IRL, high intensity.
It's like, everyone's coked up.
There's always crazy shit happening. They have scripts. high intensity. It's like everyone's coked up.
There's always crazy shit happening.
They have scripts.
Obviously, there's always a bunch of women and stuff that are, you know, they're pretty much, you know, only fans or something.
And it's like, I can't, I can't compete with the dopamine receptors that are being activated
by all that shit.
Fights.
Yeah, it's so high intensity.
Like, that's a level of dopamine effect that, like, we can't just make like okay we can make a funny
royale podcast but it's like i'm a fucking boomer now like i'm not considered funny or edgy
anymore i'm considered pretty fucking, like, lame and professional.
I'm 30 now. The things that I thought were funny and the things that were like, oh, that's funny.
No, that's not funny anymore. That's just like Spongebob SquarePans shit. You know what? The current generation finds funny they find funny that a guy
gets sucker punched randomly and just like gets knocked out cold on the street and then gets shit on
that's what they find, like, content.
I can't compete with that.
I'm sorry.
I've been talking about this for years.
You got to become like I show speed.
Tell me I'm going to become I show speed, bro.
Can you look at me?
Can you, bro, bro, look at me i'm i'm gonna become the next i show speed
in what work like what are you talking about can you can you think for two seconds and be realistic?
Um, I have to go in, bro,
A. Rochelle is like an actual fed.
Consistently, they're giving me the worst feedback.
They're telling me, go, give me your address.
Oh, go in public and yell slurs at people.
Why would I do that? thongtong sahu Tung, Tung Sa-hoo Uh-huhu-Din-Din-Sahoo
Tung-Sahoo
The Groypers are sabotaging the tic-toks yeah that's a problem although if i just grow the tic-tops
jason what's up if i uh grow the tic-tops i need to pay someone to do it for sure i got to pay someone to make tic-tops like
15 a month or something and then i just grow that shit just grow my tic-tok, if I grow it to 20K followers, I'll always have content for the lives.
I just have to upload on it. I don't upload on it.
You guys, okay, Richel, you know, you haven't earned my trust but thanks for the sub listen guys
you know um i want to continue to glorify myself and take it easy on myself honestly you know
because here's what I'll say
it's like let me just like like toot my own horn
let me just like praise myself
let me just be on some shit where I'm like
you know I'm actually not bad
no seriously though it's like,
infrared, I'm the only brand. I'm the only influencer brand that is functionally one person.
All the other showrunners are busy.
Grayson is, you know, working on the script
and voicing for an infrared vision video coming up.
But besides that, I don't have a team.
I don't have editors.
I don't have clippers.
I don't have any.
It's just literally me.
This whole thing, this whole like infrared, it's just me.
So given that, it's like, how is it possible for an expansion if infrared does not have more people working on it?
Should you get people, I, yeah, I'm going to pay some people for that for sure.
I feel like reserve dues should grant me one Fed coded joke.
You know, you asked for my address. You asked for my address. You asked for my address you asked for my address
that was the sketchiest thing of all
we need gorilla clippers there are many gorilla clippers that are pretty good actually.
It's just, I need to hire a
clipper who's going to be like one clip a day
type of thing, you know?
Um,
which I think I have the connections to do
that.
You first saw me on IG Reels.
If I can get an Instagram Clipper,
if I could get a TikTok Clipper,
we are good.
Clipper on Instagram,
clipper on TikTok.
I would just have them uploaded to both.
Just grow that shit, grind that shit.
For one month, I'm going to try it.
And we just got to grind it.
Grind it, grind it.
Need to pay someone to do that, though.
Because Lord knows I don't have time
for that shit.
I'll do it
for minimum wage.
I will give someone one k for one month to turbo charge my instagram and my tictock if you can get both to 8k followers i will pay you 1k the next month is that a good deal i'm putting it out there my My price is 1K a month.
And it would have to be both to my Instagram and my
TikTok.
Maybe 5K.
Oh, a follower count maybe 5k um you know what dead ass i'll take you up on that but But you can't do this shit with bodying or none of that. You have to get real followers through real engagement and you have to actually grow it on the algorithm. If you can grow it on the, oh, you're talking about 5K followers. You know, the Instagram
that I would like to grow is the
infrared movement Instagram, not my
personal one.
Dead ass, you can get that to
5K, organically through
clipping.
Make some samples and send them my way
I could pay you for the samples
you know I could PayPal you
like I don't know
50 bucks for a sample or two
and then we go from there
and um
you got to give me on
on on Instagram
I don't know
like how I can
get you a dashboard
where you can just
upload that shit
you got to grow
grow grow that shit
you know
try doing it
and see if it's
sustainable
clip is on Discord.
Like, I know the shit that would
go viral that I do on my streams all the time.
I just forget about it the next day.
Hold on. There's a sneako clip.
The symbolism is Jews are bad now.
Stream ideas.
Talk to infrared on kick.
He covers Jackson Hinkle's ACP guy, and he's big on Twitter.
Okay.
I mean, all right.
Okay.
Is Eddie live right now?
Why the hell is Eddie randomly just like in some stream on TikTok?
We see that black and indigenous people are at
the bottom. So until we see that
change and we see more equity,
stop speaking for us. Now continue.
What do you
want me to
I'm not trying to speak for you but
why is Eddie doing sidequist?
It's not even an end of
stream.
What was just doing side quest?
I'm not, I'm telling you what they said.
Wait, I'm just saying your choice. Don't reflect that. That is conditions. I'm telling you what they said. Our material conditions
don't reflect that. Our material conditions
It's Eddie and it's like 12
people and he's just one of the people.
Like he's on someone's stream.
There's 12 people. He's just in the crowd.
Bro is doing side quests.
They feel less patriotic today. No Bro is doing side quests. They feel less patriotic
today. No, no, hold on.
They feel less patriotic today, though, is what
they say. That's embarrassing. Correct.
Continue, Midwestern.
No, the sources, they feel less
patriotic, but the vast majority of them
identify as
Americans, which I posted
because it relates to my points. Can you continue
onward, please?
Could I say something real quick?
I'm going to leave soon. This is so
ridiculous. I'm so sorry. I do want to ask soon. This is so ridiculous. I am so sorry.
I do want to ask Midwest.
I haven't been in a space this liberal in a one.
Wait, wait, wait, I'm so sorry.
I forgot what this is like.
This is okay if I, if I jumped in real quick to ask him a quick question.
Yeah, yeah, because we haven't been able to speak on.
All right, after this, I'll go, but go ahead, my main.
Of course you're going to run. You're uncomfortable.
Yeah, so I...
I am uncomfortable with you guys.
Cool. I just got a couple questions like about the
ACP and how this ties into your
worldview. So you as a communist
do you believe in just simply
like changing the modes of
into production? Do you like believe in abolishing
class antagonisms?
How do I join this?
Yeah, I mean, I guess in general,
I would describe it in a way
it's a little more.
I think it, you know,
communism over all the stages. And there, you know, communism evolves in stages.
And, you know, there are previous modes of production before capitalism that evolved through class struggle to bring us to this point.
And capitalism creates the conditions for the possibility of socialism and the eventual
complete abolition of class
antagonism, yeah.
Okay, so yes. You could have just
said yes, dude. Sure, yes.
Okay, yeah.
I'm watching it on my TikTok that.
I'm reading the American Communist Party Constitution right now, and I just don't see...
How do I volunteer?
I mean, like, it literally says here and the United States
the United States the exception of the colony
and on the island all happens I can't join it.
There's no space.
There's no space.
There's no space.
Yes, we consider the country to be occupied by shareholders and bankers and Zionists and the working people of the U.S. and Canada need to revolt against them. But if the Constitution doesn't lay out our political program, that's like rules
and guidelines for the party. If you want to see what we actually want to implement immediately
in America, check out the program. And then if you want to see what we actually want to implement immediately in America,
check out the program.
And then if you don't think that program is communist enough,
I would actually go to the Communist Manifesto and read the 12,
I believe it's 12, like immediate policy prescriptions.
Because of course, Marx and Engles said that the means of production need to be rest from the bourgeoisie by degree you believe and you can't just
hit a button and do communism overnight and our our policy prescriptions for America in the immediate
future.
I don't want to deal with this bullshit.
I don't want to deal with this bullshit.
It's like, stupid 2020
identity politics shit.
It's like, this is not proletarian.
It's not.
And it's like, you know what?
I don't...
I don't want to deal with it.
I have to think about my tribe.
It's like, okay, my tribe is Latinos, it's black people.
But it's also barbaric white people with tattoos
who live in trailers
or, you know, live in,
you know, deindustrialized parts of America
or, you know,
they live in the hood or something.
It's like,
those are my people, too. And it's like, you know, they live in the hood or something. It's like, those are my people, too.
And it's like, you know, actually the majority of the ACP is those people.
And it's like, I'm so sick of this like identity politics, racial identity politics, bullshit. I don't, I just like don't fucking care about it anymore i'm not pandering to anyone it's like i'm not i represent those people those are my people too
and it's like i have a responsibility to just be like i I don't got to entertain that. I'm not, I'm sick of it.
I know too many white working class people in my own organization to put up with hearing about how they need to be denigrated
and fucking told to check their privilege
when in fucking reality these people are like broke as fuck.
I just don't have patience for it.
I'm just exhausted, guys. I'm just exhausted, guys. I'm just exhausted, guys.
I'm, like, just want to go to bed.
Tomorrow we'll do it.
We'll join that space tomorrow if it's alive, you know?
Anyway, y'all, I'll see you tomorrow.
Hopefully, bye-bye.