Debating Leftists on Fascism

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yo what's up guys i just got back

what did i miss

anything happen

did anything happen

what happened

is everyone talking about

i was using the bathroom the whole time

i was doing nothing

i didn't do shit

i didn't do a damn thing i didn't do a

damn thing

all right so i'm going to agree with you

guys right

um

this saturday we're going to be debating

me and jackson we're going to be

debating adam something

adam soy thing and some guy named steve

steve bono some i don't know some some

guy that was a stand-in for bosch

because bosch was too afraid to debate

so they got the backup

and you know it's

yeah but adam something he's good for

him he's finally agreeing to debate

that's a little brave right he's at

least agreeing to it

um and

yeah so we're going to be debating them

this saturday and you know what that

means guys it means

that the daily

sorry the weekly uh day off that i take

usually

is not going to be saturday

instead

it's going to be

friday which is tomorrow so tomorrow

there is not gonna be a stream

and there's not gonna be a stream

tomorrow because i think

i need a day off i need a day off to go

to the post office to get my fucking

passport

um

i need a day off

to prepare a little bit for the stream

which i am going to do

sorry prepare for the debate a little

bit which i am going to do

um i've been researching some stuff and

i want to prepare i want to prepare this

time i want to like cite stuff and

whatever because

usually i wouldn't prepare but since

adam something he's got like a million

subs i'm like fuck should probably

prepare because that's a guy who like

he's always citing specific statistics

and factoids and shit so i'm gonna get

my factoids in order and and do that

kind of stuff right

now beyond that

i am also

and additionally

going to be working on my writings as

well right and believe it or not guys

whenever i uh whenever i don't stream

and i'm not visiting my family it is

really sad it's just like kind of a hole

in my heart i'm like damn i should be

streaming right now i feel like i'm

missing something right

so i don't i don't like having to skip

days streaming right i couldn't be like

vosh and like

do my research stream publicly at the

public stream but that's cringe as fuck

isn't it isn't that cringy as fuck right

i don't even know when we can exchange

hey no we're not doing that okay

based thank you knox

playing with his hair like a chad

yeah um

no

honestly yeah

i cannot do research

uh on stream i have a very strict

separation and this is what separates me

from the rest of the debate bros like

destiny and walsh

the input in the output is totally

separate for me like for example

when i'm

when i'm uh

offline

i'm literally outside reading books

about sufi mysticism and shit it has

nothing to do with what i'm doing on

stream right so i keep a very strict

separation between like the input that

goes into my knowledge and my

understanding of the world and the

output

and also my research is super heterodox

like for example

um

i did research today

but like two-thirds of it

was studying the czech slovak economy

after world war ii

and you're going to ask how is that

relevant

to a debate about ukraine

i don't want to explain myself to dumb

people you know like you can't you don't

you don't understand how my brain works

you just don't okay

so

okay if you want me to answer that

question like for real

because of shit like i'm trying to get a

better understanding of

the post-soviet and post-socialist uh

transition

and

that is going to

give me a very clear picture about

what's i already did a kind of breakdown

and analysis

so you want to check the video out it's

called a marxist analysis of the war in

ukraine

which is basically about how

you know the word democracy and liberal

democracy is basically a uh uh

a code word for oligarchical looting

right because it's like this is

something like very early on when we

even we start first started doing

infrared shit

super early on we like made this

argument or i made this argument i was

like

okay so let's say russia becomes a

liberal democracy just like the west

right okay then it's the government's

gonna be looted by oligarchs it's not

gonna be democratic at all because the

people who are going to win the

elections are just going to be the

people who have fucking money to astro

turf and spread their shit you know he

who controls the media controls the

fucking government

shit like that you're going to have

situations like in ukraine

where they appointed literal oligarchs

as the governors of these regions right

and in ukraine that's a very

oligarchical

controlled state right now they run

rampant and free right

so

and then okay we'll just break the power

of the the oligarchs and do like a uh

anti-trust

thing where you know

you make the economy well guess what

that requires that requires a level of

authoritarianism

that is beyond what liberal democracy is

capable of

so that's why putin is an authoritarian

in order to curb the power of the

oligarchs you have to go beyond the

mechanisms of the formal liberal state

because according to liberalism property

is sacred and you can't touch property

well

when all these people like own

all of this fucking shit

you know what i mean

so it's that simple putin is a

democratic leader he's a normal

democratic leader for russian conditions

so yeah it's just shit like that right

but um yeah that's gonna be happening

this saturday now in the meantime i

wanted to do today's stream

every it's like blues clues every single

day is a new theme right

no i know this is not particularly an

effective way to grow the channel

because i understand how it works on

youtube is that people want continuity

even on twitch is the same thing i'm

kind of flip-flopping between all these

different crazy topics

but i think it's pretty similar um

we're going to talk about fashion boom

today right

and we're specifically going to be

talking about fascism live in a twitter

space right and actually let's just get

that twitter space going uh

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okay we're gonna start this twitter

space

yeah we're just gonna get it going now

just for the sake of it you know

uh we're gonna start this twitter space

right right right right right right

right right right right now did you get

my chat about checking twitter dm

i checked your d i checked the dm and it

said something like

it said some shit like uh

it was a picture of the stream starting

at 2am well that's because you live in a

different time zone

literally yet so you live in a different

time zone right

but to give some context

i made a tweet as all shit is about

tweets right

that's how i commune and interact with

the dumb fucks

see on twitch there was something called

twitch politics so i could just react to

shit within twitch politics now i got to

use twitter

to have a community to react to right

quote-unquote community

um

but anyway i did make a tweet in august

of 2021

where i basically said a lot of people

think that fascism means the density of

tradition and this wrath of the

primordial father and it's like all of

these like archaic and ancient things

coming to the surface and i said no

fascism is this perverse psychotic ultra

modern phenomena

whose lynchpin is war and who's like

psychological and uh

you know whatever characteristics are

indistinguishable from leftists right so

today i actually

think i want to do i want to do a

twitter space and i'm going to do a

stream today

because oftentimes leftists are calling

us

fascists come to brazil

and listen

i live in massachusetts it's not 2 a.m

here dude then i don't know what's wrong

with it thank you uh for the 10

imperator

uh

yeah i i don't tell you

okay anyway um

we are continually being called fascists

so-called pat socks are continually

being called fascists everyone

everyone is being called a fascist

who somehow like deviates from leftism

in any kind of way so

what i'm curious about is where are

leftists getting this chanting a kojima

productions featurette thank you janar

so much is this guy named margot did we

talk to this guy before

did we talk to him before anyway they're

calling everyone fascists they're

calling us fast we're calling pad socks

fascists they're also calling those

reactionaries right

and what i want to use today's stream as

an opportunity to do is basically

question

hey leftist have you ever thought

critically about what it means to be

progressive or reactionary like why do

you assume that just because something

has been given institutional backing

that it represents some inevitable form

of progress that we have to accept

what if the institutions are somehow

reactionary what if these progressive

tendencies and and new things that

they're trying to push on people are in

fact reactionary responses

something else so i want to question

uh the this kind of like prejudice so

margot

i don't remember this guy what's going

on

hello

yeah you're wrong

okay you're on

uh

first of all where do you stand

ideologically you're a leftist

i'm a

communist

so you're one of us

i don't think i'm one of you i wouldn't

join the cpu usa for example but i'm a

communist what do you think about the

so-called patslock thing

uh

so i think when people call you fascist

they aren't really making

a comment about the content of your

beliefs uh they're saying that the

rhetoric you use especially when it

comes to

uh

you know trans people

and the kind of you know masculine front

that you put out

pardon do you agree that the rhetoric

can be called fascist

uh do i agree that you use rhetoric that

is eerily similar to

people who would nominally be to the

right of you yes that is that's how i

would phrase it well that's that's a

little ambiguous we're talking about

fascism here right so let's be more

specific do you think that right yeah i

i think you say yeah no i'll be very

clear about it i think you say things

fascists say

okay you think i say things that faster

say well

i have a question for you okay so

you say you're a communist are you a

marxist leninist

uh

i like marx i like lennon i don't think

that label is particularly useful are

you a fan of dimitrov and his work the

fascist offensive

uh and the task of the communist

international the struggle of the

working class against fascism

i'm not familiar with it you'd have to

enlighten me well according to dimitrov

there's four basically four ways he

defined fascism just to simplify it

right it's the most ferocious attack by

capital on the mass of the working

people it is the unbridled chauvinism

and predatory war

is the rapid reaction counter-revolution

and it's the most vicious enemy of the

working class than all working people

and earlier

they it was defined

by the executive committee of the

communist international as the open

terrorist dictatorship of the most

reactionary and most chauvinistic and

most imperialist elements of finance

capital so this is how communists have

historically defined fascism right

now you're telling me that i'm somehow

using fascist rhetoric because i said

something about i don't know i i don't

even remember trans people or i'm

masculine i'm just trying to understand

what the connection between those and

fascism is anyone who doesn't know about

dimitrov sure so uh we last talked when

you were going uh you had this

theory about uh

you know the aesthetics of contra points

videos

being a

sort of will as representation

uh

nietzschean

psyop to make people anti-communist

um

and so you know the the thing in

particular about the rhetoric that you

use

that that resembles the rhetoric that

fascists use is you say ah there's an

attack on traditional gender roles uh by

the uh

i guess you would call them liberal

intelligentsia

and uh this attack is making our

movement

you know your your movement um

the the things that you would want you

know to move toward communism

um

this this feminizing this feminization

is uh you know making us

unable to achieve our political goals

and uh you know that's that's something

that a fascist might say almost

first of all would you consider stalin a

fascist or the ussr to be a fascist

state

uh no i think if you're operating on

that kind of level of the use of the

word fascism it's become useless because

the ussr

and the post-war period specifically

made a distinction that they wanted to

preserve traditional gender roles uh

encounter distinction to liberal yeah i

don't give a shit what russia did in the

50s particularly because we're talking

about right now

okay sure so in the context of the 50s

that was not fascist

uh

i mean it's

this is a really like parallel question

to the thing that

you know i'm talking about which is the

type of rhetoric that you use because

this is a historical question about a

particular regime yeah rather than

something about you know you a streamer

and the types of you know pencil neck

nergins that you speak to and get to do

your bidding right

so

let's not talk about the ussr then

because you don't want to talk about it

what about that rhetoric is

fascist what about i

the thing that is fascist about it is

that fascists would use it right

that it is even the type of thing that

fascists well i would argue that

self-proclaimed fascists are just as

likely to be femme boys and furries on

discord that's the thing that you would

only say

you don't actually know any fascists

i have definitely been shown evidence

that there are plenty of self-proclaimed

fascists

uh yeah evidence on the fucking internet

people who post

people who are making their entire

personalities function of the internet

okay sure i guess

those are just people on the internet so

what what people offline

uh who are you in a uniquely fascist way

are saying the same things that i am

because the you know the communist party

the russian federation says things

that's similar to what i say they reject

lgbt

the whole movement as a whole i'm not

even that uh extreme right

and so you have communists worldwide on

an international level who are saying

things similar that i am now you're

saying that some supposed offline

fascists are using the same rhetoric as

i am and they're saying the same things

that i am i'm just curious to to know

what about that rhetoric is inherently

fascist

sure uh the inherently fascist part of

it right is that there is an internal

enemy

uh

with

you know supposed institutional backing

uh that is uh corrupting the social

fabric to make it impossible to uh

achieve socially progressive goals by

socially progressive i mean you know

communist ones that's that's the thing

that you would say whereas the fascist

would say uh it's preventing us from

achieving you know the goals of uh a

stable family unit and uh you know

national pride whatever else okay so but

then again you can do the national

treasure i think you're a patriotic

socialist so

you're you're basically saying that all

communists and history were fascists

then is that what you're saying

uh no and i don't know why you would

take from what is

have always posited an internal enemy

that is responsible for a form of social

degeneration

uh particularly the social degeneration

corresponding with capitalism that is

preventing communist chronicle progress

so that's that's been universal among

every major communist party in the

history of the world

uh yes but communists also see that

there is a progressive force behind

capital right that you need these uh

this accumulation yeah yeah but you

don't think that there's any you don't

think that there's any good side to the

lgbt thing you just think that this is a

perversion and a subversion of

traditional culture which is what a

fascist would say

okay hold your horses sir

so communists believe that the

progressive aspects of capitalism are

two things right the first thing is

formal equality with regard to the state

which basically means breaking down

feudal uh et cetera et cetera relations

and basically establishing you know some

kind of constitutional order with civil

liberties

the reason that's progressive

is because it eliminates

uh these kind of economic privileges

that correspond with state power it's an

anti-monopoly stance right the other

thing progressive about capitalism and

the most important thing is the

unleashing of the forces of production

okay so two things that communists

consider progressive

uh you're talking about like the lgbt

movement

what is inherently from the communist

perspective progressive about the lgbt

movement now i'm not anti-lgbt but i'm

just playing the devil's advocate here

because i could easily make the argument

that this movement corresponds to his

profound stagnation of the forces of

production rather than any unleashing of

the force of production it also

corresponds in a sense to a curtailment

of um

a formal bourgeois democracy because it

corresponds to the addition of all these

like extra democratic

and extra legal mechanisms

uh by which sexual minorities are um

pursuing their agenda so i'm curious to

know what about the lgbt movement from a

communist perspective is inherently

progressive

sure uh the critique you've made in the

past is that you know lgbt is a form of

liberal individualism

uh that it's this worship of the self

that is socially

uh

preventative whatever the word would be

fuck it uh

the the thing that's inherently

progressive about you know increases in

lgbt rights is that uh you know people

of this kind have always existed you get

really mad about the 72 genders thing uh

that's that is a psyop that's like an

actual psy up

um in a in like a very direct real sense

uh yes i'm saying that this is a thing

that

uh

whether it's a product of cia

involvement or um

you know just moving academics moving in

circles that you know agents and assets

move in

um

yeah i think it's a i think it's a

non-productive diversion i just also

think it's a much smaller uh

sliver of the full community than you

make it out to be and so it's a much

smaller fucking problem and so it

doesn't actually mean that the lgbt

movement is you know sapping the power

of the movement for communism or

whatever um i think you're just getting

really mad about 13 year olds on tumblr

and how there's a constant ever

increasing supply of 13 year olds on

tumblr you know people are always aging

into and out of

uh liking that kind of

uh rhetoric right the the you know i can

be cloud gender or whatever

it's the thing that people broadly grow

out of right and so it doesn't actually

affect your political horizons okay as a

streamer okay well firstly

so i have to respond to all the

arguments made right so the first

argument that i heard was something you

won't but you know we'll just have a

conversation yeah well the first thing

you said sounds like that well it's

progressive because these people have

always been around now i'm just playing

the devil's advocate here because i just

find that a poor argument to be i mean

pedophiles have always been around as

well that doesn't mean they're

progressive right sure but why draw that

equivocation because one is a type of

personal freedom that yeah but you know

it doesn't really curtail yours and the

other is about direct having always been

around that makes it inherently

progressive okay

that's what i'm trying to what makes it

inherently progressive is that people

are more free right and and whether

that's free to be themselves or free to

express themselves collectively

that's still progressive right that's

still the historical occurrence of

freedom it's it's fucking hegel right

there's there's

what's more hegelian than being

nonbinary i think that's a very

non-hegelian conception of freedom

because the hegelian conception of

freedom is an identity of freedom with

necessity whereas the notion of freedom

that you're talking about is a freedom

of art the ability to make arbitrary

choices

i think you're saying it's arbitrary i i

don't think you've shown that in any way

okay well i'm just trying to say there's

nothing inherently about the fact that

people have always existed that make

something progressive now second of all

i hope you know that many people would

characterize the rhetoric you just made

about neo-pronouns to be fascist

rhetoric as a matter of fact many people

have justified the accusation that i'm a

fascist because i've rejected neo

pronouns so

i'm curious to see yeah sure but you're

an asshole about it i i was just like

all right is there anything very

inherently fascist about being an

asshole

is there something inherently fascist

about being an asshole is that your

question

yeah because you said well we're the

same but you're the natural about it so

it's justified for them to call you

fascist so i'm wondering does just being

an asshole make the difference that it's

okay to call me a fascist

well i think when you're you know i

might not say personally that you are

inciting hate but i think plenty of

people would say that you incite hate

towards lgbt people and yes that would

be the difference between me and you

okay so we have two things it's like

this is branching now right the first

thing is that i'm inciting hate toward

lgbt people i'd love to see how that can

be

um on what basis do you say that the

second thing is that that is inherently

fascist so we're talking about what

fascism is and what reaction is right so

i want to be clear about why you're

making this association between

someone who hypothetically rejects lgbt

as a movement and fascism or some kind

of reactionism i also want to know where

you're getting the idea that i'm

promoting hate

against lgbt people

again it's a distinction between logic

and rhetoric that you're not really

allowed to make because you're a debate

streamer

um

you see logic is when is when an

argument you know follows basically from

premises and then the combination of

those premises allows you to make a new

conclusion right whereas rhetoric is

just the framing that you put around

that logic

and uh the rhetoric that you use

uh and some of the logical backing that

you give to that rhetoric is the same

content and form that a fascist would

use in making arguments to bring

listeners closer to fashion even even

hypothetically speaking if that was true

if people who self-identified as

fascists

both in content and form make the same

arguments that i do

that doesn't actually tell us anything

about whether it's inherently fascist

because i think the sky is blue and

fashions also think the sky is blue but

it's not only fascists who think that

now is it it's also of many other types

of people including communists

internationally

who

have that supposed rhetoric and i also

want to know what that rhetoric is

exactly can you give us some specifics

well i gave i gave some specifics

earlier when you know i talked about how

the reason that

the reason we're even talking about the

lgbt thing right

is because very very often

you use uh you you

talk about neopronouns like you're a

fucking

the amazing atheist or something

uh

yeah fucking stupid

yeah you're allowed to think they're

stupid but you also don't have to uh way

way way over exaggerate the number of

people who care about neo pronouns okay

uh i think if you i think i think i

think there are tens of thousands of

people who are very active on twitter

the very least

do you even hear yourself tens of

thousands of people on twitter holy shit

this is going to we'll never get the

working class on our side now we'll

never stage that revolution what are we

going to do

they are disproportionately over

represented among cell phones on twitter

no on twitter

i think you're getting too excited and i

need you to stop getting your panties in

a bunch and sit down and calm down take

a few deep breaths they are over

represented among self-identified

communists okay and i am also a

communist so i find myself being called

a fascist because i reject that kind of

nonsense and you're saying well i

rejected as well but you're mean about

it and that's why it's justified for

them to call you a fascist so again i'm

gonna ask you what about being mean and

what about my rhetoric is inherently

fascist

well it's not just the meanness right

it's the position of lgbt people

as an internal enemy

as a poison or decadence that has to be

extirpated if the communist movement is

to be successful that is

because i don't live in soviet russia

okay that is ad verbatim communist

rhetoric at almost every stage of

communist movements worldwide in history

okay you made that up

like do you have a uh like a so excel

spreadsheet of the positions on lgbt

people by talking about all these things

throughout history i could definitely

give you stuff about the lgbt but i'm

talking about you're saying this

abstraction of setting up an internal

enemy uh who is like

spreading degradation and decadence and

thwarting the communist movement and

that is very much

present at every stage of every

communist movement in the history of the

world now whether lgbt people are being

identified that way

is a different story but actually it is

true that communists historically for

the most part have rejected any lgbt

movement

and did consider it a form of bourgeois

decadence i mean it's in the history

books

right the fact that you're even like

focusing on that and using it you are

the past

physicians well no because i haven't

talked about

you are the only person who's brought up

soviet russia's position on lgbt people

and as a support for your own position

right you're using you are using an

appeal to the ussr as a reason to be

anti-lgbt i'm using this appeal uh to

point out how there's nothing inherently

fascist

about that view

unless you want to characterize the ussr

as fascist

yeah maybe maybe my abstraction is

giving you trouble because uh all right

i just want to know why you know you're

yeah sure i like i don't want to accuse

you of like intentionally missing my

point to look better to your viewers or

something literally

i'm here open to whatever argument you

have about why it's fascist

right yeah yeah i mean we're you know

we're both engaging in good faith and uh

you know so on

yeah i explained to people why i think

comfort points is fascist

so i i just want you and you don't have

to do it is a complex way that i did but

just tell us why it's fascist

okay so uh this this internal enemy

thing that seems to be tripping you up

right uh hold on when you when you use

before sorry you're gonna have to

explain why the internal enemy thing is

inherently fascist as well because

well right because fascism is is this uh

turning inward

of capital

when the you know the colonies are no

longer producing enough to keep the

local uh social structure

right i'm not sure where you're getting

that from i've read dimitrov's work the

fascist defensive and the communist

internet yeah we can we can operate for

more than one i'm just trying to say i'm

just trying to say like having knowledge

that we're talking about

i'm just trying to say he uses the exact

opposite argument according to dimitrov

fascism is an externalization of the

class struggle where they go out and

invade other countries and capital needs

to go out and plunder other colonies and

plunder other countries to displace the

internal social antagonism so i have no

idea where you're getting this idea that

fascism is just turning inward

when the

orthodoxy that has prevailed among

marxist leninist has been the exact

opposite pastor's not a turning inward

turning outward

it's strange that you're using this one

source to

as evidence of orthodoxy

because okay you know

you have

uh you know not i'm not like i didn't

come here prepared to like dunk on you

with books

i'm about to say the thing that is like

from a source there's the very common

expression that uh fascism is

fuck what do they say uh

the the return of colonial policy to the

metropole whatever it is

the tactics the tactics that are used to

subjugate people

in the periphery uh

once the periphery is uh either looted

to the extent i mean you're right that

there's you know externalizing factors

of fascism as well so it's just that

it's a it's it's it goes two ways right

yeah

colonial colonial tactics of policing

and subjugation can be brought back to

you know the center of society and also

a society that is you know bringing

those tactics back to sugar can then

decide that okay we have to go out and

conquer more because the old colonies

aren't producing as much i've heard your

point i've heard sure so the problem

margot is that i don't know where you

read that from but whoever wrote that is

a dumb fuck

because

right the fact that they don't really

finish because i didn't i didn't

interrupt you i let you finish your

point the all instances of real fascism

we can find i mean even portugal right

as ambiguous as that was

you do have an aggressive extension of

the colonial policy even when there was

not really any before i mean in the case

of italy you had it with regards to

ethiopia and libya and then in germany i

don't know why you're saying it's

bringing it to the metropole where they

went eastward and they wanted to enslave

the slavic peoples to the east so i

don't know where you're getting this

idea that fascism means

we are just going to have an inward

expression of the colonial policy i mean

that the opposite is true fascism is an

expansion of the colonial policy to

unprecedented heights and you're saying

that the forms of control and social

control that were used for colonial

subjugation are being applied inward i

just don't see how that's true i think

in the case of fascism you do have

political repression

because it's this extra legal suspension

of all civil liberties at home

but by and large you have the

enslavement and subjugation still of

outsiders or

of minorities in the case of germany of

like jews and gypsies or whatever

marginals in your own country uh

primarily to use this kind of like you

know escape scapegoat or something but

i'm just not sure where you're getting

this idea

that fascism is just this kind of inward

turn also you can't name any marxist

leninist authors who agree with you

um

i'm not sure why that represents the

communist consensus

uh and even if it doesn't represent the

communist consensus and i should just

take it on the merits of the argument

itself i don't find that a particularly

persuasive

argument

yeah i i don't see

why for any reason other than

intellectual dishonesty you would act

like i said the two things were mutually

exclusive

you can bring

the colonial policy to the metropole and

you can also seek to expand your

colonial holdings

the other thing that's really

frustrating about this conversation so

what colonial policies were brought to

the metropole

a police

state yeah the police state for the

germans and the italians again was

against political dissent but the

colonial policy that the germans applied

to slavs and the colonial policy that

the italians applied to ethiopians and

libyans

in terms of its um not only like in

terms of its structure but also in terms

of its bar

barbarousness and whatever i mean

there's nothing comparable about those

two things whatsoever they brutally

the brutality and the repression of

colonized peoples under fascist states

was nothing compared i mean like it was

so much more i mean

than what they were doing at home

you realize the holocaust was done at

home but the overwhelming majority of

the victims of the holocaust were in the

east

and and was

were massacred in the east

and take it from the east

mostly by you know forces that were

trying to do the same thing that nazi

like by the durlawanga brigade by

ukrainians by fellow slavs etc

why is that relevant it's relevant

because

the

like the movement itself like what it is

doing the the policies it's enacting

uh

they're they're

like the regime is still

hello

okay it's it's relevant because you were

bringing it up right

like you were you were making it about

that

i no you were saying

you said well what about the holocaust

and i said well that was also an

extension of the colonial barbarism

of germany yes yeah and and in its

extension outward it was mostly

undertaken by people who are local to

its victims and so the the victims of

the holidays sure if that was true but

even if it was i failed to see its

relevance here because you said fascism

is an internalization can be defined as

an internalization of the colonial

policy uh yes that's exactly what it was

towards german jews which is the

relevant yeah but the overwhelming

majority of the victims of fascism were

not inward

okay i

that doesn't mean that the change is

primarily interesting i don't mean that

the change that was initiated by fascism

wasn't a turning inward of colonial

technologies of governance right

no i don't think so

i mean you're allowed not to think so

it's just can you provide evidence for

that definition

to support that

can i provide an argument to support

well yeah you know the the ss

was modeled after colonial police forces

the the domestic action

the ss was modeled after colonial police

forces strictly in the context of the

colonized

lands to the east over which the ss

was exercising the majority of its uh

jurisdiction

so i yeah and then it was being implied

jurisdiction over german citizens what

is so unclear about this all right how

was how were the german nazis colonizing

german citizens

i didn't say colonizing them i said

techniques and colonial practices

against germans

yes things like uh

the the cataloging of people based on

their national and ethnic and

physiological differences

these are the things that we learned

does that experience yes every modern

country does that the ussr did that

the ussr definitely catalog people based

on their uh

differences

sure there's a difference between taking

a census and taking a census that you're

then going to use to mass murder people

okay but the majority of the mass murder

was happening outside of germany

yes okay let's

let's take the u.s as an example why not

uh so the lessons learned in the phoenix

program right the the assassination and

uh um

you know the census in the united states

predated the nazis if you're gonna bring

this shit up

what predated the nazis the census

program in the us

yeah it's it's not about the census

program exactly

it's about the use of the data that you

would collect in a census and expanding

the type of data that you do collect uh

to then use that for counter insurgency

for uh identifying people who might

become threats to the state the u.s

probably before the nazis did

right and so did they use it to like

for counterinsurgency and to detect that

people are going to be more likely to be

counter-revolutionary or not yeah it's

probably

much larger

actually

would you call the ussr police state

i wouldn't but it seems like you are

how does it seem like i'm doing that

because you're defining a police state

based on cataloging people to see if

they're more likely to become a

revolutionary or not or to be insurgents

or not something like that

uh

yeah you know you you use this

information that you collect you have

you know the advent of computers around

this time and then you crunch the

numbers and you say oh it looks like

this person might you know throw a

molotov cocktail at a bank or something

like algorithms

no i mean this is pre algorithmic this

is this is just spreadsheets and shit

this is this is vietnam war era and

before

okay

well that i don't i don't i'm not sure

why you're bringing we we went from

trying to understand

why the lgbt movement is inherently

progressive

why uh my rhetoric is fascist

to

what

that fascism means of

i don't know some exertion of the

colonial

policy inwards and that oh yeah you made

the argument that my frederick is

fascist because i'm positing an internal

enemy the reason that's inherently

fascist is because the

um because fascism was the

internalization of colonialism or

something it's just extremely incoherent

argument i mean those two things don't

even follow

like how could my positioning of an

internal enemy supposedly right

how could that justify how could it be

justified

to say that that's inherently fascist

because even if i were to grant you

the a historical idea that fascism is

just

the internalization of colonial policy i

mean

how do how does it follow that that

justifies the idea that having an

internal enemy is fascist

sure uh you actually

you know you've reminded me of enough of

my points that i can kind of tie them

together now

uh so

the reason this this positing of an

internal enemy is is fascist the reason

that this relates to the internalizing

of colonial forms of governance uh you

know to the home populace uh

if if there is this internal enemy right

if if we've decided uh if if you've

decided that uh lgbt people are all un

un reversibly psyoped uh and we'll never

be able to

i i know you haven't said that because

go ahead

so uh so if you if you've got all of

this number crunching um and all of this

data collection uh that you're gonna use

to you know make sure your regime

doesn't lose power

um

well you know it's not just gonna like

sit there idly it you're not you're

going to like make use of it

and the other thing about fascism is

that because it's also an

externalization of these same forces

right you you keep representing my point

as if i said it is only the bringing

back to the metropole etc etc whatever

uh bullshit quote i was making just

because you like forced me to come up

with one

um

the the reason that

uh

it is still externalizing these forces

is that you actually never run out of

internal enemies right you all you never

run out of external ones either and

that's why fascist movements just kind

of you know beautiful cater themselves

you mean to say that the logical

conclusion of my rhetoric which somehow

antagonizes lgbt people

is a police state where we're going to

catalog everyone who's lgbt uh that's

quite the leap but even if i know

no no no no

i don't think your rhetoric has anything

logical conclusion you're making a lot

of assumptions hold on you're getting

really excited about your own stupidity

right now so

you're making quite an extraordinary

leap but i'll grant you the leap

if you're going to characterize every

modern state as fascist what is the use

of the word fascism anymore everyone has

to be fascist if they're going to be

ruling a modern state

yeah i i think you've just made a leap

there

uh really because the way you've

described uh cataloging people based on

their propensity to be enemies of the

state is a characteristic and feature of

every modern state

including yeah it's almost it's almost

like every modern state has like learned

something from those fascist projects

okay well the ussr had that before

fascism came into power i mean so i

don't know why

so they i haven't learned it from

fascists that they pioneered it before

that wasn't the case in the ussr it

matters so very little to me

okay it may matter very little to you

but for purposes of being like logically

consistent and and minimally coherent

from a historical perspective

i think it matters a lot to anyone who

cares about that right so yeah i mean i

mean you also have the privilege of just

exaggerating every point that i make as

if i've given like an exhaustive

definition of anything you're accusing

me of exaggerating but we went from me

questioning why the lgbt movement is

inherently progressive

uh to this idea that i'm gonna have a

police registry of every lgbt person

no no you you internal threats like

you're you're the one who said that i

don't think that you'll ever hold power

so i don't think that you'll ever really

i mean like you're saying that that i

would have the intention of doing that

hypothetically if i was in power right

so well no no no i what i really think

is that you use the arguments and the

language of people who would want that

if they ever held power those people

will never hold power either again

the problem with that type of reasoning

is that

it's it's once again the thing of like

okay if nazis think the sky is blue and

i think the sky's blue is does thinking

the sky is blue and that inherently

nasty like you have to yeah yeah

this guy isn't like a person this guy

isn't a type of person i'm not i'm not

okay you know yeah if i would grant you

that there is this coincidence of

fascists happening to be

uh thinking that you know well i think

fascists first of all do think lgbt

movement is progressive they just

regress reject the idea of progress

first of all right but second of all

even if i were to grant you that uh for

some reason fascists say the same things

that i do

you can't just

hide behind the authority of that

coincidence you have to show me

logically show me rationally

why that is fascist what is fascist

about it tell me why fascists

uh use that rhetoric

uh bigotry

i i think you're a bigot i think you're

a bigot haas

what does that mean

uh do you have access to a dictionary

no i want you to put it in your own

words okay i i think i think lgbt people

make you uncomfortable because they're

different from you and i think that

discomfort leads you to make a bunch of

sweeping political generalizations about

the efficacy of their movement and uh

that they're doing to communism so i

didn't even make i made no normative

judgment whatsoever about the elders oh

don't act like

motherfucker you are so fucking stupid

you're just the dumbest piece of shit

who's ever lived i don't know why you're

getting emotional right you're getting

my fucking cock bro all right you're

getting a little emotional and all he

left

hey look i don't why is that justified i

just asked you like i didn't make any

normative judgment i just asked a simple

question

why is the lgbt movement inherently

progressive and why hypothetically is

the lgbt movement

used as the measurement of whether

someone's fascist or not i just want to

know what's fascist

about rejecting the lgbt movement

i mean i don't i don't i don't know if i

would even say i reject the lgbt

movement i just want to know why people

use that to define what fascism is

because i'm reading dimitrov and i read

dimitrov i've read the classics of

marxism leninism

and to for them fascism is very clearly

defined

um

as the rule of the the open dictatorship

of the most

reactionary and warmongering elements of

finance capital i mean nowhere in there

do i find anything about

uh i don't know

sexual minorities or something i don't

know why that's relevant to what fascism

is i don't know why that's relevant to

why people define it i want to know why

all these marxists where are you getting

your idea of progress is progress just

following the latest agenda that's

adopted institutions now to be a little

bit good faith i think a lot of these

people say okay

this trend was adopted by mtv on the tv

which means it has become historically

consolidated as an irreversible form of

progress and therefore anyone who

is indifferent to it or is not getting

on board with it must be a reactionary

but why are you using the media and

corporations as the barometer

of what is an irreversible form of

progress

when those things often contradict to

the actual cultural trends that take

root in society not just from the top

down as some kind of social engineering

project

so

okay is there

uh

all right well

again i'm i'm i'm being calm here right

i don't know why people get so fucking

emotional when i bring this up

i want to know why these people are

using the word fascism in the way they

are again

fascism

in terms of its psychological

characteristics

uh is indistinguishable if you just look

at it from ultra leftism right it's a

form of psychological perversion

uh it's a form of psychosis right

uh psychologically

and

but its linchpin is war i don't know how

you can have this idea that all these

anti-war people could be fascists

when fascism can clearly be defined by

pro-war chauvinism by the way when these

people used the word chauvinism they

weren't talking about a guy man

spreading on the subway they were

talking about

a the war-mongering policy of the state

and by the ruling class

to attack other countries and attack

subjugate and enslave other nations

i think that's what chauvinism meant in

the communist lexicon okay it didn't

mean man spreading on the subway

or microaggressions

yada yada so i just want to know

why leftists are using the word fascism

in the way they are

i also want to point out

that and i'm going to read you dimitrov

himself right to show you

why if you're against pat socks

you know you are at the very minimum

aiding and abetting fascism

um

because in his section about the

ideological struggle against fascism

so dimitrov points it out as a weakness

that one of the weakest aspects of the

anti-fascist struggle of our parties

is that they inadequately react and too

slowly to the fascist demagoguery and

neglect the problem with struggling

against fascist ideology

so this is what they say right

fascists are rummaging through the

entire history of every nation so as to

be able to pose as the heirs and

continuers of all that was exalted in

heroic in the past

and you know they're lying about the

german nation and history of the

germination he gives several examples

mussolini is trying to be the heir of

garibaldi

french fascists are trying to be the

heirs of joan of arc american fascists

are appealing to the founding fathers in

lincoln the bulgarian fascists are

making use of the historical national

liberation movement of the seventies and

its heroes beloved by the people

vasilevskiy

step on courage and others

now what what dimitrov says is that

communists who oppose that

all this has nothing to do with the

cause of the working class who do

nothing to enlighten the masses on the

past of their people in a historically

correct fashion and it genuinely marxist

lending a spirit

who do nothing to link up the present

struggle with the people's revolutionary

traditions and past voluntarily hand

over to the fascist falsifiers all that

is valuable in the historical past of

the nations so that the fascists may

fool the masses so dimitrov is spelling

it out outright he's saying that all of

these

so-called leftists

who are not

interpreting history in a

marxist-leninist way and reclaiming all

of these figures

in a communistic way are handing over to

the fascist falsifiers all that is

valuable now the reason i'm going to say

that the anti-pat socks in the american

context are just fascists outright

is because they directly agree with the

fascists that all of these great

historical figures at least in the eye

of the majority of the people in the

countries within which they're trying to

operate they're agreeing with the

fascists

that these are inherently fascist

figures in yadda yadda these are

inherently nazi figures

so in dimitrov's words they're handing

over

to the fascist false falsifiers all that

is valuable

and then dimitrov says

we are concerned with every every

important question not only of the

president future but also of the past

and of our own peoples we communists do

not pursue a narrow policy based on the

craft interests of the workers we are

not narrow-minded trade union

functionaries or leaders of medieval

guilds we are representative of the

class interests of the most important

and greatest class of modern society

so what that means is that while we

oppose in principle boudoir nationalism

in all its forms

we are not supporters of national

nihilism this is what dimitrov says and

we should never act as such

the task of educating the workers and

all working people

in the spirit of proletarian

internationalism is one of the

fundamental tasks of a communist party

but anyone who thinks that this permits

him or even compels him to sneer

at the national sentiments of the broad

masses of working people is far from

being a genuine bolshevik and has

understood nothing of the teaching of

lenin on the national question

and then he quotes lenin to point out

that national pride is important and

that we do have national pride so he

said

i think comrades that when at the

reichstag fire trial the fascists tried

to slander the bulgarians as a barbarous

people

i was not wrong in taking up the defense

of the national honor of the working

masses of the bulgarian people who are

struggling heroically against the

fascist usurpers

i am in no i had no cause to be ashamed

of being a bulgarian and i'm on the

contrary i was proud of being the son of

the heroic bulgarian working class now

if you're going to say oh that's because

the bulgarians were oppressed

at the time that dimitrov was writing

this there was a huge fascist movement

within bulgaria well the fascists within

bulgaria eventually assumed power they

assumed the reigns of power

okay so he's saying that in spite of

that fact right

he said proletarian international is a

must so to speak

acclimatize itself

in each country in order to strike deep

roots in the native land

these are

language that we have used

we so-called pat stocks have used and

because of this language we were called

fascists dimitra in each country in

order to strike deep roots in its native

land

national forms of proletarian class

struggle and of the labor movement in

the individual countries are in no

contradiction to proletarian

internationalism

on the contrary it is precisely in these

forms that the international interests

of the proletariat can be successfully

defended so dmitrov is spelling it out

directly without the national forms

the international interests of the

proletarian class cannot be successfully

defended it is only within

the national forum that proletarian

internationalism that can be defended

that's what dimitrov says

okay

now

it goes without saying that it is

everywhere and on all occasions to

expose before the masses and to prove to

them concretely

the fascist bourgeoisie on the pretext

of defending general national interests

in conducting its selfish policy of

oppressing and exploiting its own people

as well as robbing and enslaving other

nations so we oppose that right but we

must not confuse ourselves to this

confine ourselves to this we must at the

same time prove by the very struggle of

the working class and of the actions of

the communist parties that the

proletariat

in rising against every manner of

bondage and national oppression is the

only true fighter for national freedom

and the independence of the people

the interest of the class struggle of

the proletariat against its native

exploiters and oppressors are not in

contradiction to the interests of a free

and happy future of the nation on the

contrary the socialist revolution will

signify the salvation of the nation and

will open it up to the road of loftier

heights

language we have used that they

used as evidence that were fascist and

were using fascist sentiment here is

dimitrov saying it directly

to teach communists how to fight fascism

he said

socialist revolution will signify the

salvation of the nation and will open up

to it the road to loftier heights

loftier heights of the nation salvation

of the nation imagine if we use this

language

by the very fact of building at the

present time its class organizations and

consolidating its positions by the very

fact of defending democratic rights and

liberties against fascism

and mind you what that means

concretely does not mean something about

toilets

democratic rights and liberties are our

democratic rights and liberties you know

the ones that have been under assault by

things like the patriot act and under

the obama regime

and uh you know even under trump

you know but i don't know if that was by

him or the people controlling him

doesn't matter either way and now under

biden our actual bourgeois democratic

rights and liberties not this

ambiguous academically contrived idea of

liber liberation that they have

these are now under assault

and it's progressives leading the way in

their campaign to promote censorship

you look at the source material you read

dimitrov and then you ask the question

how the fuck are we fascists how how do

these people sustain the idea that we're

somehow fascists

how are they defining fascism where are

they getting their this this very

bizarre very very bizarre idea of what

fascism is where are they getting it

from

look at this the revolutionary

proletariat is fighting to save the

culture of the people

to liberate it from the shackles of

decaying monopoly capitalism from

barbarous fascism which is laying

violent hands on it

only the proletarian revolution can

avert the destruction of culture and

raise it to its flowering

its highest flowering as a truly

national culture national inform and

socialist and content which is being

realized in the soviet union before our

eyes i mean

we say this word for word i mean i want

you guys to do a test if you get a new

argument with these one of these twitter

dumbasses just repeat dimitrov and act

like it's your own words like oh my god

this is such fascist language

again i i'm interested in knowing

why we are be so dimitrov has a very

specific understanding of fascism

now clearly it has nothing to do with an

understanding

that

the struggle

the class struggle is deeply national in

nature that communists have to be deeply

national and deeply patriotic

has nothing to do with

that so now we have to ask the question

it's about the culture well why is

taking a position on the culture war

uh

of indifference or even rejection of

these latest trends pushed by the

corporate uh america and the corporate

media why is that inherently fascist

what is inherently fascist about that

uh they're saying well having

conservative social values well the this

is the thing the soviet union

had very conservative social values

almost every communist state had very

conservative social values china today i

mean they are pursuing a very family

oriented policy of pro-natalism which is

extremely conservative compared to

america and they're they're encouraging

women to have children

uh

you know

encouraging families like no state has

ever done before

is that fascist i mean a lot of leftists

say that china is fascist because of

things like that

right

um

but i think people have this idea that

you know fascists represent the deeply

national you know activistic revival of

the nation i mean these are

it's two people who characterize fascism

this way uh fascists themselves

and these dumb fuck

mystifiers and falsifiers

coming from the left

who are giving the fascists what they

want which is the nation as dimitrov

said they're handing over the nation to

the fascists they're agreeing with the

fascist false pretensions dimitrov said

the fascists are not deeply national

they serve international finance capital

they pretend and disguise themselves in

the forms of the nation with all this

mystical obfuscatory bullshit that

they're representing the true authentic

nation dimitrov says no they are lying

they're falsifying that but the leftists

the alter electors are here saying

they're saying no the fascists are right

that is truly the nation we have to curb

our national instincts and curb our

sentiments and and all hold hands and in

a circle together

uh because fascism is really scary it's

it's like thor the god of thunder it's

really scary it's like thunder right

they're literally jacking off the

fascists and fulfilling their twisted

little fantasy for them instead of

pushing back in any capacity

they are fascists two sides of the same

coin

you're not allowed to make an argument

guy claiming he's a communist that's

calling other people fascists

it's unbelievable

based

thank you

marks rejected feminism and anti-racism

when it detracted from the wider class

oh i mean i'm going to get into that as

well about what marx had to say

about people who detracted too much from

the class struggle thank you frankly

appreciate your streams man keep it

up appreciate you man

um thank you chris

are we anti-semitic because we reject

zionism in the israeli state are we

anti-normative gender when we criticize

the lgbtq political movement

based thank you

i haven't heard a peep from antifa

regarding the azo i haven't either

that's a good point i haven't heard a

peep from antifa about the azole

battalion they don't talk about that

based

we're going to talk about that when you

hurt liberals feelings in any way today

because i'm going to explain to you what

real fascism today

would or does look like what it actually

does mean

doesn't hungary have a pro-natalist

policy as well i'm not sure crow's break

but thank you

so

i'm gonna put a pause again anyway what

i'm trying to say here is that

you look at

the case of the maidan and in the maidan

you had this

this vicious uprising of these urban

thugs

these lumpin

of ukraine

supported by international finance

capital and being a a quote unquote

anarchist in a banderas was

indistinguishable

being a fascist and an ultra leftist in

that context was totally

indistinguishable

america you have a similar base

in terms of these d-classed chaz type of

people

these formerly middle-class people who

were from the suburbs but got de-classed

so they moved to cities they became

heavily urbanized so there's these thugs

and they're these uh

lumpen degenerates

in every meaningful capacity degenerates

these are also the same hooligans that

would be the rank and file of fashion so

ironically the people who make up antifa

in the united states that is the rank

and file of fascism 100

100

fascism has never represented any

authentic

deeply nationally rooted reality it has

always been an exaggerated form of

pageantry in order to use the nation as

this edgy in this edgy way to kind of

give expression to the inherent

contradictions within liberalism well

ultra leftists and so-called anarchists

they do the exact same thing whether

they're maoists whether anarchists all

they do is

perversely give expression to the

contradictions internal to liberalism

instead of actually

offering a positive alternative in terms

of the culture war

they point out various cultural

inequalities that persist in the sphere

of culture and they

basically wear this as their their mark

to point out how liberalism is not able

to achieve equality in the sphere of

culture and that's this inherent

contradiction within liberalism but marx

and engels had already pointed out that

equality is an inherently bourgeois

principle in the first place

you can't apply equality outside of the

sphere of um

political forms

so making a fuss of that is it's all

you're doing is giving expression and

giving manifestation to this psychosis

of liberalism which is unable to

reconcile itself with the fact that it

has to confine itself only to a very

specific sphere of society which is the

state and legal forms despite being an

ideology which is meant to encompass and

account for the whole of society

so liberalism

whereupon it it it encounters these

kinds of contradictions

and i'm just talking about this on an

ideological level not not even from a

materialist level right

it gives rise to fascism

and leftists are just as much culpable

in that as actual fascists what actual

actually i don't know what an actual

fascist is

in america

you look at the azovites in ukraine

and they are outright neo-nazi fascists

you have neo-nazis in the united states

outright neo-nazis

it's just i'm not sure

those people will be

numerous or strong enough to actually

give expression

to the actual fascist tendency that

we're witnessing in this country which

is most definitely coming from the altar

left

um and and all you have to do is look at

that from the perspective of which

social force within the united states

is doing the most to accelerate

the destruction of bourgeois democracy

in basic bourgeois liberties it is

clearly the ultra leftists

it's clearly these nos libs right

um now it is also neo-nazis

to be fair

it is also them

but

who primarily right

it's on the one hand the nazi terrorists

uh and criminals who are from the same

social class by the way is the altar

leftist and on the other hand it's also

the altar leftists

on an institutional level so on

on a um civil society level it's the

neo-nazis on an institutional level it's

the ultra leftists on this you know

on the dark web it's the neo-nazis on

the surface web it's the ultra leftists

the two come from the same class and are

working indirectly together

uh to give rise to a fascism

in the 21st century so i see margot is

back

for more apparently i mean maybe they

calmed down they had a few breaths

and they're ready to actually engage

with what i said maybe they they went

and read something and they kind of rage

quit last time so i'll give them another

chance

and let's see what they've got to say

uh yeah i just wanted to mention in this

context of uh

you know political action that

accelerates the

breakdown of democracy uh

and you know which side is doing more of

that uh

you know i think the the lone wolf

type of attacks uh modeled after timothy

mcveigh

uh you know and explicitly

sort of far right figure

uh you know i think that really

you know says more about

the actions that are being taken

to undermine democracy

uh and which side is most culpable in

that

uh and i think the fact that you're

saying the ultra left is somehow

you know

to blame uh

that is a strange

aspect of your rhetoric that i think you

might want to take a look at

okay well i don't see how it's strange

when i okay you just left and i just

pointed out that they work together

one's doing it

uh on the dark web and one is doing it

on the surface web

and that i don't know if that's not an

explicit reference to these people

carrying out these

i mean literally mentioned neo-nazi

terrors what do you think that was in

reference to

but

the thing is is that in in those cases

there are awfully

there is an awfully uncanny amount of

connections

to um let's just say certain authorities

i'm glad you mentioned timothy mcveigh

because that's far enough into the past

that i'm going to be allowed to talk

about it

um yeah that that was glowed up okay

that guy timothy mcveigh

was pretty much groomed by the cia to do

what he did

um

so you know you ha and all that is on

the record and it's all out there right

so almost every single one of these

cases you have these very strange

connections to the security

uh departments and apparatuses and

agencies within this country security

agencies primarily intelligence agencies

yada yada yada and then you have to ask

the question if if these neo-nazis are

just being used what is the actual

ideology of this deep state and of these

security agencies which is um promoting

all of these horrific criminal and

terrorist acts against the american

people

well

it it's it's not just nazism it's

something that makes the nazism

superfluous

it is the ultimate form

of liberal nihilism

uh for which nazism is just you know the

the expression within civil society

it includes nazism and includes all

these ideas about eugenics but the only

difference from nazism is that they're

laughing their way to the bank at the

mythological pretensions that this

somehow involves the people all the

nazis are saying the german people they

the fascists said the italian people the

real people who are behind fascism

and who are funding and financing this

shit the real people behind these evil

uh demonic forces

they are laughing they're laughing their

way to the bank at this idea right they

believe that all the stuff about

eugenics and

you know chauvinism and and the social

darwinism and all that kind of shit they

do believe in that don't be wrong but

they don't buy into any of this like

pseudo-populist demagogue type of shit

that somehow is relevant to the majority

of people they're not loyal to any

people they're not loyal to any masses

they dupe the masses and they dupe the

people using the pageantry of nazism and

and fascism and national whatever they

use this pageantry to dupe the people

they don't give a fuck about anyone

though all they care about is um

not even themselves as a class but

worshiping whatever fucking demon

worshiping whatever agenda

they have in mind that they think is the

ultimate expression

of you know what it means to be human

they're they i mean the rabbit hole goes

real deep i'm not going to pretend i

know the whole story but let's just say

the farther you go into the rabbit hole

this fucking scarier it gets

in terms of what's really motivating

these people to do what they do

but regardless of what's motivating them

uh just i'm talking about just on the

like ideological level obviously on a

material level we know all this shit is

coming from the decadence and the decay

of capitalism and of monopoly capitalism

in particular and it's trying to save

itself

but the way that manifests itself

ideologically and religiously and i

don't know i don't know if you call it

religious more kind of like occult it's

pretty fucking scary stuff if you uh go

put a deep dive into it

but um

regardless you know

who is closest to that ideology that we

could see on the surface i think it is

ultra leftist i think ultra leftists are

closest to that ideology because they

have the most destructive and nihilistic

attitude

toward humanity

and they don't make any pretense to

demagogic appeal to the masses in any

capacity they literally say we hate the

masses we're against the masses the

masses don't even exist they're just the

sum total of individuals and atoms

um all they do is just appeal to

individually contrived identities and

basically say the only real thing is

what an individual chooses i mean this

is luciferian satanism

which is i think closest to the actual

ideology of the ruling class although

it's not the same because the ruling

class also laughs at the leftists

moralism and idea that this is you know

to to be just or to make people more

equitable and to make life happier for

people and whatever i mean they laugh at

that idea

but they do share in common

uh you know with leftists this basic

idea that the only thing that's real is

what comes out of the mind of the

individual and everything else is

somehow you know

false or it's a sham or it has to be

destroyed and or liquefied or something

like that so

by the way can you guys hear my twitter

right now you guys can hear me clearly

in the twitter space i'm getting some

comments some people saying they cannot

hear me that clearly

not sure why people are saying that

not sure at all why people are saying

that

but anyway um

you know all this rhetoric against pat

socks you have to notice that the the oh

the reason that it's becoming popular is

not because mls

are becoming more popular it's because

these nato nas libs supporters of the

azov the azerbytes

those types of people have you know they

know about quote-unquote pat socks they

know that we are the most ferocious

opponents

of uh zelensky's apocalyptic delusions

and the uh you know the

pro-thermonuclear extinction

contingent

uh from europe wants to drag america

into world war iii they know we are the

most vocal opponents of that and we're

also some of the most effective

opponents of that because we combine

genuine and authentic patriotism

with an anti-war and anti-imperialist

position they know that's a winning

message so that's why these people are

the most vicious opponents of us

more than anyone so you're seeing in

real time a unity of the nas libs and

all of the fake buzzword mls the people

who pretend to be marxist leninist but

are as a matter of fact nazis

and more specifically nas libs and we

need to start popularizing that term

ladies and gentlemen nas libs because

it's a real thing so these are nas libs

right that's what we're dealing with

they call us nas bowls

which is purely projection

the only thing they get right about is

that we are bolsovic's right we are

marxist leninists

so

what they're doing is they're actually

talking about nas lips they're talking

about these libs

who are um that's what they're

projecting that's what they fucking are

they're liberals who are becoming so

psychotic that they're transforming and

they're fusing into nazism outright

nazism and you do see a spontaneous

implicit solidarity between outright

neo-nazis

and um ultra leftists specifically when

it comes to like the people who are

against us it's they get along really

well

when it comes to opposing us and that is

not for uh that's not accidental right

that's for a reason

and the reason is because they come from

the same they have the same cause now

you might say what about you and the

so-called pat socks aren't don't you

represent some exhibiting of the

contradiction of liberalism and the

answer is no

we actually locate the object of

politics

and of our ideology to be outside of

bourgeois liberalism and liberal forms

we

offer a positive vision

of a nation we don't have a negative

view of vision of the nation like nazis

do just in the sense of like it's purely

this abstract negative unity that

excludes others and it's just defined in

this very strict way of this certain

certain amount of blood quantum of this

we have a view of a nation

which comes from socialist

the socialist realist aesthetic right uh

the dialectic between content and form

we have an understanding of the nation

that goes deep we have a clear

message of reconciliation

and renewal and you know um you know

rebirth

and awakening we have a positive vision

that can definitely sustain itself and

can definitely survive

without

just dwelling in the negation and

of opposing everything and opposing

everything else we have a positive

vision of uniting communist

consciousness with the broad strata of

the working people

in this country and within all countries

for that matter depending on their local

characteristics we have a positive

vision we have something positive to

offer we don't just dwell in bourgeois

institutions like the social parasites

that call themselves communists to

complain about the fact that things

aren't equal enough

we don't do that shit we don't we don't

we don't uh parasitically you know

working these big tech companies and all

these fucking corporate environments to

socially re-engineer everything to make

them more equitable over the fuck these

people are doing like hollywood we have

our own vision for building a

working-class movement

right in no way are we like fascists who

are just trying to point out you know

the contradiction posed by the nation

and by national differences to the form

of the liberal state because their

response to that by the way is just

suspending bourgeois democracy entirely

and replacing it with an open and

explicit dictatorship our response to

that

is that it's knocking on an open door we

can preserve

the best and most valuable things about

bourgeois democracy while also

accounting for

and recognizing the national reality

specifically in the form of the party of

the working class which does it which

recognizes that in the best way possible

and today i saw this dumb fucking tweet

that managed to get 15 000 likes and

these are the same people by the way who

are liking and promoting and retweeting

all the tweets against so-called pat

socks but it was specifically saying

that it's a myth the ussr was against

racism and that actually look at all the

deportations that happened in world war

ii and look at the fact that russians

still you know were ruled

ruling most of the ussr

you know a few things

all that came from the

that that was also a response to the

byzawa mls giving false representation

to the ussr's anti-racism by trying to

make it seem like

it was like

an expression of liberal anti-racism

like the ussr was like you know a 1990s

sesame street episode where everyone's

saying oh it's a rainbow nation and

everyone's saying one big no that's not

what's fucking going on in the ussr uh

national differences and traditions

and identities are definitely being

preserved and given a solid basis

uh what's going on is that people are

coexisting on a basis

of mutual respect

but

the national realities are not being

overcome they're not being liquefied

people aren't just becoming these

cosmopolitan rootless you know

citizens of civil society

these urban hipsters in new york who are

blending together everything and we are

not that's not what's fucking going on

uh you have a solid

uh you have these solid nationalities

these solid uh you know ethnicities that

are interacting with each other based on

concrete relations of mutual respect

and there's nothing in common with the

liberal view right

you know and and those differences were

celebrated and preserved right they were

by no means

you know seen as oh this is inherent

equality we needed to address the

inequality between russians and others i

mean russians were the majority of the

soviet union

um

soviet civilization was heavily the air

mostly the heir to um russian

civilization although there was also

something going on in central asia

which

in my view showed that there is an even

further syncreticism going on

um with other civilizations historically

specifically the central asian ones but

regardless the ussr was a civilizational

state liberals don't have civilizational

states

they either have globalist universal

states that rule as naked police

dictatorships over everyone

indiscriminately

or they have mono ethnic you know ethno

states

um

which have a very strict formal

definition of what the ethnicity is

right

so

that's liberalism right it has nothing

to do with the ussr's attitude toward

nationalities and i want to keep

emphasizing again that

when

you know

this idea of communism being a rainbow

you know whatever there's nothing

rainbow about communism there's nothing

rainbow about it

matter of fact i'm not against the lgbt

movement but i hate that fucking rainbow

flag can i say that can i say that the

rainbow is like this mk ultra

psychological engineering scary type of

shit

that is just this extremely

liquidationist

aesthetic i mean it is totally

antithetical to communism

on a basic aesthetic level

and people might say aesthetics are not

important i think they are important

okay

because it's this idea of

universalistic indeterminate difference

you know it's everything all at once

everything all at once what's the

quintessential psychosis

of american liberalism and american

globalist unipolarity

so

you have to understand that you know

when fascism comes to this country it's

going to be draped in a rainbow flag

okay it's going to be draped in the same

universalistic

flag of indeterminate differences it's

going to be the sun wheel with a goddamn

rainbow flag you know

um and it's going to say this is the

ultimate culmination of aryan

spiritual development total universal

uh

achievement of of uh transcendence and

only the enlightened you know let me

tell you another thing you know white

means all colors right

white

reflects all colors

okay so when you see the rainbow flag i

mean that's a white that means white

okay

that means a white flag okay that's

inherently what it means okay

so

you gotta understand what's going on

here

and yeah it's it's also hideous and very

ugly

um and i'm allowed to have that opinion

i am allowed to have that opinion and

view

uh you would never see that flag being

flown in the ussr or in china or any

communist state

you know

it's unthinkable

you know

you know you know the thing about the

guy they lied about who uh got put in a

uh he was shot for having a flag

of the tri-color which was a lie he

wasn't shocked because he proposed the

tri-color

he was shot because he was embezzling

state funds in order to

by the way

prop up the tsarist era

westernized and europeanized

ruling class center which was

leningrad or today saint petersburg or

before saint petersburg um that's why

they were shocked it was actually

because they were not populous they were

elitists

that's why they were coinciding

campaigns against both cosmopolitanism

and i emphasized

bourgeois nationalism now bourgeois

nationalism i don't know what this word

bourgeois means in most people's heads

on on on fucking twitter or on the

internet or or i don't know on irl

organizations or in fucking among

leftists in general but bourgeois means

a cosmopolitan urban dweller that's what

bourgeois means okay so bourgeois

nationalism

is very strictly a form of

you know formalistic kind of elitist

heavily urbanized

uh nationalism

it has nothing to do

with you know

be deep and rugged quote unquote

nationalism they're associating with us

which is more maoist you know maoist and

it's more stalinistic

you know it's it's more rugged and

actually reflecting of the character of

the actual people

and not these uh contrived

you know bourgeois social engineers

trying to create

an idea of the nation from thin air

so yeah

so there's the guy who types in chat

that goes you are clueless i would love

to hear an argument about why i'm

clueless

i can't say that i'm getting angry

because i'm i stay calm and other people

get angry and just rage quit so

you know

all you got to do is it it'd be so you

know if you really want to stop infrared

instead of making tweets and all this

cringey shit i mean all you would really

have to do is like debate me and

actually

win

what does it mean to win well it just

means like come here

show

show me that i either don't have

knowledge about the thing that i'm

talking about

uh it's not it doesn't hold to reason or

doesn't hold to history i'm getting it

wrong somehow and hold your own

by actually responding to what i'm

saying

and breaking down my arguments you

notice every time my opponents debate me

i

articulate their argument in my own

words

correctly and the reason i do that is to

show them that i understand what you are

trying to say

and since i already we made it clear

that i understand what you were trying

to say here's why it's wrong

never have any of my opponents been able

to articulate what i am trying to say

proving that they actually understand it

and give a response to it they've never

actually done that they never actually

succeed

in doing anything like that it's always

this failed attempt

to basically just you know dismiss

me is being saying something meaningless

yada yada yada right

so it's it's just a shame that nobody's

uh receiving the call to actually debate

about this because i i'm really curious

about why the lgbt movement is an index

of progress what is progressive about it

and why would someone who opposed it why

would that make them a reactionary or a

fascist right because reaction and

progress i mean these are words that are

talking about

historical changes that have actually

taken place

which are materially irreversible

you know you have to understand that

reaction is always a vanity

uh it's always something that fails

it's not actually something that can

succeed just by definition you can't

turn back the wheels of time

so usually reactionary forces will

implement laws and will implement you

know by force

organized forms of cope where basically

they're going to be okay we're just

going to deny reality outright you're

like huh

you're denying the minorities and it's

like

no that's not true right

um for example having laws against

pedophilia and bestiality and incest

for example i mean that's not

how is that reactionary i don't get how

that would be reactionary right well

you're preventing people

reaction is not defined by how much

freedom people have

to do things uh reaction is defined

by trying to turn back the wheels of

time in some kind of way right and just

because you see something on mtv

doesn't mean it's actually changed

reality in a fundamental way

you know we are at the point where

it's not really that we're like reacting

to some

scary

you know cultural norm that is like

inevitably taken hold it's more we're

trying to say that

the ways in which they're trying to

enforce them

have failed which makes them the

reactionaries

actually

it's not like we're here being like oh

yeah um

we're trying to deny that no we're not

denying anything we know that there's

sexual minorities we know with it's

always been a thing

what we have to talk about now is what

is this lgbt movement trying to

accomplish exactly i mean first they

wanted marriage

first they wanted marriage

which is fine i mean i personally don't

care

but i also don't see how that's

inherently progressive i just don't care

about either way but i still don't

understand how it's progressive because

why is that what is that progressing

exactly like what what about that is

inherently progressive right i could

tell you why um

you know eliminating slavery was

progressive i could tell you why even

civil rights were progressive

from the 60s i could tell you why you

know even women's suffrage was

progressive

i could tell you

all those things because it's about

formal equality right

uh

but when it comes to sexuality when

you're trying to formalize sexuality

it starts to get a little weird right

you're on you're on a totally different

ball game

and notice when you press these people

all they can really do is try and

compare the lgbt movement to like black

people or minorities

which is weird because there's no

relation between those two things i mean

like

you can't use black people as a stand-in

for

lgbt because they're not comparable

plainly put not comparable

um but whatever right

they're saying my rhetoric is fascist or

somehow fast

they can't even give you one reason for

why that is

everyone who just agrees to be a

psychotic

and who mutually agrees

to have that form of copium

somehow came to that conclusion

right

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i may

i may just do that

there have been msm stories about lgbt

ukrainian soldiers fighting for their

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but anyways thank you

bright colors and cartoons as a mk ultra

op to get kids to like bad substances

i'm not saying that i'm just saying you

know there's a lot of weird shit a lot

of weird shit with regard to mk ultra

and the like

um

because what i'm trying to say here

here's why i think the rainbow aesthetic

is mk ultra and i'm gonna actually break

it down to you in the most coherent way

that i can

it's going to be coherent trust me

you're going to understand it right

so

hold on

they are fascist by their own definition

i love your streams sorry for being

annoying on occasion i'm funding cpusa

2036. oh you're good man you're good

good

yeah you are you're right

but anyway um

so

when you're dealing with this u.s

government approach to mind control or

like you know manipulating the senses or

like this type of cybernetic control

over the human psych

um

you're dealing with like this really

crude breakdown of phenomenal reality

reality like the reality that's

perceptible to the senses watch an anime

called guerin logon it's a marxist anime

about historical materialism and triumph

over malthusianism

yeah i don't think i'm gonna do that

but um

yeah it's basically like uh

it's basically like this um you know

is

turning of the human psych

into an object

of abstract engineering right

and

the first way to like

give

sorry how do i fucking put this the

first way to like abstract our senses

or the phenomenal world from us in terms

of vision is like the art

what is it called the visible spectrum

right so in a really like nihilistic way

the rainbow flag has always kind of like

been disturbing to me because it's like

it's like this abstract breakdown of

the visible spectrum itself meaning like

the essence of everything we see in

reality so like when you see a painting

at a museum and it looks super beautiful

and whatever like oh actually all of

that is just underlying all of that is

just the visible spectrum so this way in

which

the us kind of like

um cybernetic

uh

paradigm of like reducing the whole

world to these mechanized

you know abstractions it's just this

kind of

it's almost like

we can be so fundamentally manipulated

in every possible way you can't tell

what's real from what's artificial

anymore right

this makes sense or is it sound schizo

right you guys get what i'm saying like

it's this breaking down of what's real

from what's artificial like

am i seeing this

painting um

am i seeing anything real in there when

i'm seeing some beautiful thing or is

this just the coincidental organization

of the visible spectrum of light in a

certain way

accidentally which can be broken down

scientifically and biologically and

psychologically

whatever in this like brutally surgical

scientific way right

so

that's what i'm talking about here

and you're gonna say i'm fascist

for saying this shit i mean like well

this is what i'm your fancy saying i

think the majority of self-identified

fascists on the internet are just people

identifying with what you've

what you've labeled them at priority so

first they were just these random

conservatives who didn't buy into your

bullshit then you called them fascists

and they were like you know what i hate

this lefty bullshit so much that i will

just unironically identify with that

but does that mean they're inherently

fascists like is that the fascism that

dimitrov described is it somehow new how

is it new what's what about this i mean

i would love anyone to just explain to

me how fascism

could exist without war without having

some war agenda

i would love for anyone to ex from any

marxist perspective like explain how you

can have fascism

without war

let me put it this way

did i make it

would this give me banned on twitter

this can be banned on twitter or not

would i be banned on twitter for saying

hitler would have had neo pronouns which

he literally would have

he definitely would have

he most definitely would have

yeah i'm sorry guys i will never accept

anime it's just never going to happen

never in a million years

i will never find that acceptable i will

never find that

permissible i will never accept anime

it's like it's

just a fact so just stop trying right

but um

you know

it's just it's just funny how you could

tell

they didn't nobody bothered to do the

fucking readings despite using this word

fascism throwing it around

so loosely

which tells you something pretty scary

that most leftists aren't using the

language that they do

because they've read the primary sources

they're doing it out of some convention

some social convention that was

completely artificially created by

someone who pretended to interpret it

the right way who did it so it just took

off

it's literally an argument from

authority right

so

let me show you

let me let me let's give an introduction

to what dimitrov actually meant by

fascism right

so it's the open terrorist dictatorship

of the most reactionary most

chauvinistic and most imperialist

elements of finance capital

most reactionary variety of fascism is

the german type

it has the effectory

ifantory to call itself

africa called itself national socialism

by the way i'm quoting uh dimitrov right

now

now

just to play the devil's advocate

and

i would love to see anyone try and push

back on this but just to play the

devil's advocate you know i could really

easily quote

i could very easily quote

axiom gorky

but i don't think you guys want to hear

what maxum gorky had to say about

fascism

i don't think what you guys want to i

don't think you guys want to hear what

max and gorky said about i don't think i

agree with it

i don't think i agree with it by the way

but as far as what maxim gorky said

about fascism

i mean wow it just gives you

the extent of the diversity of opinions

and perspectives

that are possible for a marxist leninist

in history

and while you might want while you might

oppose that perspective

you can't call it fascist because maxim

gorky was an anti-fascist and he wrote

that okay now i'm not going to uh

quote that i i wouldn't do that

because i understand how offensive so

many people would find it but i'm just

saying let's not throw around this

accusation of fascism

slow so lightly

when

there's a diversity of opinions

historically now should should people

say that today i mean if russian they

could say what they want i personally

wouldn't say it and i don't encourage

anyone to say that

it's just

why are they making it seem like this is

somehow fascist you know

why are they somehow making it seem like

it's somehow fascist right

so

um german fascism is acting as the

spearhead of international

counter-revolution

the chief instigator of imperialist war

and the initiator of a crusade against

the soviet union the great fatherland of

the working people the whole world

now

who is the chief instigator of war

uh in america right now of imperialist

war

who is the chief instigator

well i can name two people it used to be

the neocons

now it's the progressives

i repeat that

the self-proclaimed progressives in the

united states of america even more than

biden

are the chief instigators of imperialist

war against russia against china over

taiwan yada yada

okay uh who are the most solid anti-war

people

it seems like the most solid anti-war

contingent among the american public

right now

are populists across the board it goes

from the maga people to uh us now what

we're trying to do

is their anti-war with regard to russia

but there are elements from the top

specifically the teal

bannon contingent and if i'm

mischaracterizing them they can defend

themselves and i you know i'll be open

to that but

it seems like they kind of want to push

for war with china using a populist

veneer

and we're trying to fight back against

that at this you know we're doing that's

we're focusing on is fighting back

against

the false populist pro-war agenda

but

they're nowhere at the level of

progressives who actually have an

ideological

basis for a crusade

a literal crusade is what dimitrov said

against russia and china for ideological

reasons we have to spread democracy we

have to spread lgbt rights we have to

spread um the dalai lama and to free to

bed we have to spread land back

that's what these fucking people are

they're fascists right

fascism is not so

i wanna i want you guys to listen to

this as well fascism is not a form of

state power standing above glasses

it's not a revolt of the petty

bourgeoisie

so it's not the revolt of you know

the boaters

uh who are barbecuing

fascism is not a power standing above

class nor government of the pedibuso z

or the lumpin over finance capital

fascism is the power of finance capital

itself

dimitrov made that crystal clear it's

not the power of industrial capital

which is what trump overwhelmingly

represented it is the power of finance

capital

okay

now if that somehow changed you're gonna

have to explain to it to me why that why

that changed

it is the organization of terrorist

vengeance against the working class and

the revolutionary section of the

peasantry and intelligence boy that

sounds like antifa to me

terrorist vengeance against the working

class

and foreign policy it's jingoism in its

most brutal form lamenting bestial

hatred of other nations

what kind of attitude have progressives

fomented in regards to the attitude

toward russia and china have you guys

seen some of these tweets about russia

did you see the tweet about russia where

they said russia has always been the

bloody state of muscovy we must crush

the horde you guys see that shit did you

see the one the shit that they're saying

about china

you're going to tell me that isn't uh

jingoism in its most brutal form and and

be fomenting bestial hatred against

other nations i mean it's clear as day

that's exactly what it fucking is to me

you know

it's absolutely clear to me

the true character of fascism must be

particularly stressed

because in a number of countries

under the cover of social demography

demagoguery

fascism is meant to gain a following of

the mass of the petty bourgeoisie that

has been dislocated by crisis and even

sections of the backwards shroud of the

proletariat

but these would have never supported

fascination with a real character in

true nature so that might happen in this

country if for example these

as always

naslibs

start presenting their agenda in this

populist veneer

against china

that could get you know the masses on

board with their agenda right now

they're viciously engaged in a civil war

against the masses

but they might use china to to make it

you know

to spread it to the masses themselves

that's where our role comes in

to fight fight against that as much as

we can to prevent that as much as we can

to push back against that as much as we

can to do our best right that's what

we're here for to do our best to fight

that and combat that

um

now in other countries where the ruling

bourgeoisies so let look at this

in case people think i'm fear-mongering

in regards to biden and i'm

fear-mongering you know in regards to uh

fear-mongering in regards to uh you know

the situation in america right now

in other countries where the ruling

boudoir fears an early outbreak

fascism establishes its unrestricted

political monopoly either immediately or

by intensifying its reign of terror

against all rival parties and groups

what about those domestic terror laws

it does not prevent fascism when its

position becomes particularly acute

i'm trying to extend its bases and

without altering its class nature

trying to combine

open terrorist dictatorship with a clued

crude sham of parliamentarism

so that's what happens in ukraine right

you have an open terrorist dictatorship

of the azobites but you still have a

crude sham of parliamentarism i mean do

you really think

things in ukraine are decided by

zelensky or by parliament no

it's decided by the azov thugs and

militias who have all the

you know they've won the master slave

dialectic in ukraine they're the people

who are willing to fight for something

and willing to die for something

therefore they control ukraine ukrainian

military just gets its orders from the

political state

they're not going to fight and die for

an ideology or a cause like the azovites

are

so it's that it's that quote unquote

national guard that has power in ukraine

the ascension to power of fascism is not

an ordinary succession of one bourgeois

government to another

but a substitution of one state form of

class domination of the bourgeoisie

from bourgeois democracy to open

terrorist dictatorship

that's what we're facing here in this

country

i mean being advanced aided and abetted

by the left who are fighting the

infowars the rank and file

for them now i'm going to talk about mk

ultra and the lgbt movement only for one

reason

okay it seems like even before i may i

said a goddamn thing about lgbt movement

even before i said a goddamn thing about

it right

even before i said anything critical

about that movement

it seems like the most active vanguard

people who are willing to for free fight

the infowar against me

and to destroy the anti-imperialist

message

where somehow people brainwashed into

thinking

that if they didn't oppose me they could

not

sustain or protect

their sexual identity so they attached

their sexual identity

with loyalty to the imperialist state if

that's not a form of

mk ultra i don't fucking know what is

somehow

the american state has gotten people

to attach their very sexuality

with loyalty to the agenda of

imperialism

that's pretty fucking scary and if you

think that's just a coincidence i think

you're naive i think there's a reason

why that is

uh that is you know you look into the

history of mk ultra and the shit that

they were

they've gotten these free and willing

soldiers of the imperial estate

who have attached their own sexuality i

repeat they've attached their own

sexuality

to the imperialist state meaning they

are going to go so like put it this way

it's almost like

it's almost like you know if you're an

honorable person you're a man for

example you're gonna be like this is

attack my very manhood is on the line i

have to defend this right it's kind of

like that for them

they're very sexual

truth is on the line

if they don't oppose hogs and attack has

they'll be whatever so they've been

brainwashed in some kind of way

uh to become the slaves

of the imperialist deep state's agenda

and it is absolutely fucking

horrific it's a it's a it's a it's a

it's a horror story right

but

these are the most i mean you look at

the people who are in my replies and you

look at the people who are the most

fanatical about opposing me it's just

just kind of seems like there's a common

denominator you know

and that's not a bigoted thing to say

because i'm saying they've somehow been

brainwashed into thinking

even

look i'm everything i'm saying

is defensive

i never used to really have these views

when i first started out with infrared i

kind of more had the view that

you know um

it's kind of an index of progress to be

for the lgbt movement to make strides

and that was kind of my view before

and then

when i started to realize that the lgbt

movement

was starting to attack me

for being pro-china and defending china

and defending russia

and being a quote unquote tanki i

started to realize i was like huh

maybe my attitude toward the lgbt

movement should change because clearly

that's it's more than just people uh

being free to

express themselves in some kind of way

it seems like there's a lot more to it

than that

uh

which again i have to point out that mk

ultra connection

and it becomes pretty fucking clear that

we're you know we're dealing with a lot

lot more

we are definitely not in kansas anymore

right

but what i mean that you guys also

notice that's all they have

the only other thing they could really

say is uh abortion maybe

and i'm not as pro-abortion as everyone

else but why would even by be my place

to be because i'm not even a fucking

woman so who cares

um

they never say i'm racist they never

take it from a racial perspective

because they can't because i'm a fucking

lebanese man

and our community is extremely non-white

they never say i'm fascist because i'm

racist it's always about the lgbt

movement it's always about that and then

the second biggest thing is that they

try to say i'm a misogynist

and i don't know why they say that

why do they say that

because i'm unapologetically a man

because i don't apologize for being a

man look if i wanted to apologize for

being a man i just wouldn't be a man

anymore either be a man or be a woman i

don't know what else to fucking tell you

be a man or be a woman

is that a reactionary message if it

don't be apologetically anything be who

you are

unapologetic

is that fascist

that fascist somehow

i feel like that's living like a human

being a dignified human being

you know

thank you appreciate you hitler would

have watched anime

yeah

true

very true

thank you 50. a lot of us in your

discord used to be leftists

disillusioned with their incoherent and

often contradictory ideology we

recognize your authenticity

i appreciate you man

um there are some things i want to show

you guys

are things i want to show you guys today

check this out

our predictions are increasingly

becoming true

and you know it brings me no pleasure to

say that although it actually does bring

me a lot of pleasure to say it

because i like being right right look at

this the spectator dot uk

meghan markle's presidential run appears

inevitable

don't take it from me take it from the

spectator okay now when did i predict

this guys i predicted this like a year

ago right

meghan markle has starred in a netflix

show and married into the royal family

but she got her eyes on and even loft

your ambitions

basically this article is going to quote

um what

biden's wife said which is that of

course she's going to run in the future

so under such scenario the people of the

starting atmosphere are willing to stand

now it's not inevitable that it's going

to be 2024

but it's very probable that it's to

happen sometime now it might not be 2024

but is it going to be 2028

is it going to be some other time i

think it's very probable right

owens is not alone in thinking that the

duchess would have an excellent chance

of winning the nomination and perhaps

even the presidency

president mark and markle the word will

send a chill down the spine of those

like me who are skeptical of marco's

ladder climbing well if only you knew

that this was planned years and years in

advance um

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do we really want megan leading the free

world how would megan handle the

negative publicity that would follow

they they're planning for it they have a

way they know what they're doing right

they know what they're fucking doing

guys i used to be a guy who had a lot of

dreams and premonitions in my life

just a lot of weird dreams and

floating around and then i had one dream

and it was the cpusa 2036 stream and

then suddenly

all the other dreams disappeared

although there was stuff going on there

too i think and and then this this one

became real i think right and now i'm

pursuing this one and

it's a dream in the sense of like

i'm fighting for this vision for this

dream like

i just feel like it's true i mean how do

you know it's true i don't know i just

feel like it i just feel like

it's a real thing

i just feel like it okay i i can't prove

it in any way i can't justify it

really all i could do is tell you

you know i've been reading a book about

a guy

um

an islamic sufi uh saint

from medieval iran

um

who used to be just this guy who like

had dreams and he would just tell people

uh and they would and it would turn out

to be correct and

he never really like explained to people

his secret he just like would be like

yeah so that's kind of how it is for me

it's like i don't really want to explain

it to anyone i just

just obey me and listen to me like a

cult you know just just just everything

i say you should just take it completely

uncritically because i just feel like it

right i'm just kidding but

um no i think there is i think there is

a reason for the cpusa 2036 vision

and it has more to do with um the

coherence of an aesthetic

with the turning of an era right and

it's just it it it's a coherent the

reason why things are coming together

like this isn't because i have

supernatural powers

it's i've been able to anticipate these

things more so because

they make sense for this new era that's

arriving right it just it's something

that would make sense

right

and

it's like a hyperstation right as the

ccru guys used to talk about that

which means

um

how do i explain that how do i fucking

explain it

i feel like in a way the things that

bubble up into the surface of our heads

are the things that have deep historical

roots

and they just

it's not just as freud said that when we

have dreams

it's our own personal sexuality and

unconscious coming to the surface it's

also

all of history right it's also the

historical era we're living in and we're

entering into it's like

it finds a way to um

make itself intelligible to us

or for it to make sense at that level

right

um

but yeah i got this completely right

and this this will always be my biggest

this is the scariest prediction i ever

made

sometimes i feel like

god is going to intervene and make this

not happen

just to just to like make the point

that

yo has you don't you can't fucking

predict the future fuck you

you don't you don't know what the future

is going to be only god does and which

is true

which is true i feel like yeah just to

like prove that point

because wouldn't it be too much like if

this came true

wouldn't it be too like dangerous like

i'm just a human being i would literally

be referred as like some kind of

supernatural

i'd be like the doctor man i'd be like a

doctor manhattan divine figure

that everyone would start worshiping or

some shit right and i'd get caught i

would get too cocky so maybe god is

gonna make this not happen

uh because i was just you know there's a

possibility i'm gonna get too cocky

about it but you know what i'm not gonna

get cocky i don't wanna get cocky about

this i'm going to be a sage

and i'm just going to trust the plan

it's going to trust this belief trust

this plan

i'm not going to get cocky right

i think that's what i'll say

um

check this out apparently this was like

a maga guy who posted this

allies link up during the battle of dc

they're posting a fictional i mean wow

this is a maga guy this is a

conservative so you're going to tell us

that our

ideology will never gain traction in

america i think you're making

uh too many assumptions i think you're

assuming that the ideologies that exist

exist

for their own reasons rather than the

fact that they reflect

you know certain material yada yada

realities right

so that's really interesting that is

definitely really interesting right

let me tell you guys the truth

let me give you the pro tip okay

every single

ideology has a signifier a master

signifier

at the center of it the rest is just

pageantry right

you have to give form

to that master signifier through

communism means communism means 1776

liberty and all those things

it's all of that it's just on a new

plane

right

so it's not even so much that you're

competing with that for the working

class

you're giving sense to the working

classes

spontaneous ideological orientation

by giving expression to its master

signifier

which right now is empty and floating

and ambiguous right it doesn't really

have one

every time it somehow becomes concrete

it becomes a schizo conspiracy theory

or some kind of degenerate thing and

then it never gains traction

the manga movement is a floating

signifier it's just you have to make

sense of it in the right way right so i

think that's how i justify it i think

someone clipped this so i remember

because i always forget to remind myself

of this

and i d there

every ideology has a signifier okay

so when we're adopting the maga stuff

and the libertarian stuff

we're trying to give expression to what

that ultimately means

which is ambiguous okay

because clearly working class people are

adopting it because it makes sense to

them in some kind of way

not because they're loyal to some

abstract

ideological precepts or some abstract

ideological form

i think that's a pretty simple thing

right people don't adopt ideologies

because they're loyal to some formal

ideological precepts some axiomatic

precept that's like what how nerds think

right we're trying to live their life

according to consistent precepts

but in terms of the average person

they're just adopting it because it

makes sense of their life in some kind

of way so

if maga is making sense of their life in

this fundamental way

um

you know

you've got to ask the question why

and do you run into this space of

nihilism

when you say oh all that was a lie

i don't know right was maga all one big

sham

i honestly don't know i don't know is

maga all gonna be does it have to be

experienced as one big sham

or

is there gonna be some continuity with

that in the same way that there's

continuity with other previous forms of

populism you know

i i kind of lean more on the idea that

there's going to be continuity there's

something about maga which is a floating

signifier

and which is irreversible you know i

don't think it's inherently fascist

but it's not it's not fa i mean fuck

that's a given it's not inherently fast

i don't think it's inherently uh

about trump

forever it's just what it represents you

know

my biggest lesson i mean my biggest

piece of advice for leftists is always

uh

don't knock on an open door

it's not always set in stone

it's most of the time it's not set in

stone

it's not set in stone 99 of the time

so don't knock on an open door

sometimes ma sometimes these things are

open doors most of the time they are

uh unless it's in see for example the

zultaneous guy is that an open door no

because he's an intellectual so

intellectuals will never be open doors

because they're dogmatic and they

believe things based on thoughts

not everyday intuitive realities

so those intellectual nerds you're never

going to win them over because then it's

not based on intuition for them but for

the average person

that's an open door their ideology is an

open door

you just have to make sense of it in the

right way

uh whether it's maga or whether it's

something else you got to make sense of

it in the right way because it's an open

door they're not it's not based on some

intellectual some intellectually

contrived precept right

like that fucking zultaneous guy

or those guys you know

um

anyway

anyway

um

some lesser stuff but we have some shit

from luna hoy

how often do you have to say this shit

in schools

you pledge allegiance to a fucking flag

doesn't it

sound and look like what some like mtv

shit lib would fucking say

doesn't it sound exactly what like with

some mtv shit lib is there any mods in

the chat

are there any fucking mods in this

fucking chat or no

this is exactly what like some like

cynical shit lib cosmopolitan would say

you pledge allegiance to a fucking flag

that is unreal i'm an omg

that is unreal except

that's what they do in vietnam

they do that already in vietnam okay

plus you know caleb's gonna point it out

the pledge of allegiance was written by

the socialist francis bellamy

and the words were taken from various

oaths former confederates had to take in

order to get their voting rights back

so it was a repudiation of slavery

but uh you pledge an agent to a fucking

flag omg i'm so cool

i'm so cool

i'm so cool

i got a message haas you're an

interesting guy i agree with a lot of

your stance on the trans people as the

trans marks of myself

but you make good points they will give

you credit peace and solidarity

disagreements aside well i don't know

what you mean by trans but like i'm not

against trans people i have not i'm not

against

trans okay

i respect people i'm just against the

fucking neo-pronoun shit where they say

there's

80 genders i just think there's you know

i think there's man and woman and if if

you're a transgender you're either

you're also either you know one of the

two right

so

that's that's just my stance i'm not

against trans people i don't know why

people think that

um i'm not god i'm not god i don't

pretend to be god i think only god knows

what we are right

only god knows the truth

so

whether the turfs are correct or whether

the trans people are only god knows

right so in the meantime let's just

respect each other right

and you know as far as the questions

about prisons and all that shit is

concerned it's like

you know

the one thing i'm so like uncompromising

on is

leave the children out of it that's all

i that's for god's sake that's my

that's my most solid things leave the

children out of it

also i i do agree with when you know you

got to also

prioritize the majority of women not the

exception when it comes to what

gets put to the front and center of like

is you know

how to define a woman's movement

you know what issues should should you

prioritize

uh

you gotta define it by the majority not

the exception you know

but anyway

um

jamie dimon says there's a hurricane

coming for the u.s economy and that you

better brace yourself so you don't know

who jamie diamond is

this is the um

ceo of jp morgan chase and company

so if he says there's a hurricane coming

for the u.s economy

i'm pretty sure there's a fucking

hurricane coming for the us i mean we

all knew this was going to happen but

like

the fat actions war in europe create

unprecedented challenge still too soon

to say guys oh my god i can't believe

remember when i fucking literally

predicted this remember when i literally

predicted this

jamie diamond warned investors to

prepare for an economic hurricane as the

economy string struggles against an

unprecedented combination of challenges

including tightening monetary policy and

russia's invasion of ukraine

they hurt and by the way we know this is

a dis we know this is an excuse we know

it was going to happen either way we all

saw the economic hurricane coming but

they're using russia's invasion of

ukraine as like

yeah sure this was probably an

accelerator but we all knew it was

coming anyway right i talked about this

i talked about remember i talked about

how they're coming for the food next

remember how i talked about the next

thing is it's going to be off food

um it is

so everybody should really

really prepare for that

for real really everyone should really

prepare for that no joke

no joke it is not a joke not a uh

not anything to uh

rule around about

diamond said at jb morning's investor

day in may that there were storm clouds

looming over the us economy

but he said he's updated his forecast

given the challenges faced by the

federal reserve as it attempts to rain

in inflation

right now it's kind of sunny things are

doing fine everyone thinks the fed can

handle it uh which means it can't handle

it

shares of the company dropped 1.8

percent to 129.8

at 11 21 a.m in new york

now when biden says he really can't do

shit about inflation

uh there's also something i want to show

you guys

to push back on that

because it's funny

so biden says there's nothing we can do

about inflation right so here's uh

richard nixon executive order

yada yada

they're going to stabilize the economy

they're going to stabilize prices rents

wages and salaries they're going to have

price controls they're going to have

rent controls

uh

unthinkable today right isn't that

unthinkable today like this is such an

archaic form of

economic intervention well it worked

stabilize them

the authority vested in by the

constitution and the statute of the

united states including the economic

stabilization act 1970 which allows the

executive to do this

so nixon

nixon knew how to do this deal with this

issue look what biden said

there's nothing he can do to bring down

gas or food prices

in the near term

nothing he can do

he's totally uh powerless

what a strong president

guys remember when we were told that

it's going to be harm reduction if we

vote for biden

even i'm pretty sure that it was more

harm caused by right

yeah i know today's situation is

different

it's just

the lack of the ability to act

between nixon and biden is pretty

fucking hilarious

maybe biden should not do the same thing

but there's definitely things he could

do

i mean why couldn't he stabilize prices

right why not

why couldn't he do that

yo i just thought this was funny

so this guy's both tweeting me he's like

has the more brain dead take than usual

felipe has the flag of a right-wing

catholic country

this is the flag of a catholic country

yo

and you know if twitter was full of

smart people this guy would get like

a billion ratioed and like he would get

clowned on

there would be like an account called

dumbass anarchist moments

it would get like 20 000 likes

but twitter is genuinely a place of

stupid people stupid and illiterate

people

nobody's gonna push back on this dumb

fuck saying russia is a catholic country

that's the type of shit we deal with

right

but uh when he was the ussr anti-racist

spoiler no

and they're they talk they're basically

like going over the deportations that

happened during world war ii

as evidence that russia was not

anti-racist which is funny

uh in consideration of the fact

you know that um

has nothing to do with racism

nothing

absolutely nothing

apparently alex jones went on blair

white's uh show you guys want to watch

that

you guys want to do some react or no you

want you want original content because i

kind of want to watch that

you guys think ones if you want to see

alex jones on blair white

choose if you don't

i think most people want to see it let's

check it out

alex jones

round two it is great to be here uh i

had a really good time last week we were

nice to reshoot this

i i i i passed out on air with you so

but yeah that's definitely not i mean

that's really all it is

here's the thing that i

get maybe conflict is a strong word but

i'm noticing this thing with you where

i've met so many people who have

you know a public persona media profiles

and they have a very good image they're

very much protected by the regime their

van is protected by the corporate press

and they can do no wrong in the eyes of

the mainstream media right and then you

meet them in real life and you're like

oh that's a demon that's maybe not

literally i don't believe in little

demons but that's a bad person and their

image doesn't match with like their good

public persona and for you it's flipped

you have this like

persona how alex feels about trump this

is the stuff we want to see right we

don't want to really see like the

personal stuff we want to see the stuff

that's substantive right

i think that um and you can tell me how

you feel about this but i think that i'm

done with trump i think his time is gone

i think we're we need new blood new

energy i want desantis but the thing

about trump that i will say no this is

the best thing this is the big con so

they're gonna they all talk about

desantis

uh desantis is a swamp monster he's a

neocon

and they're all doing this because of

his stance on kobit which was a big con

game desantis no desantis is a warmonger

okay

gotta draw the line here and say no to

desantis

his presidency

because i think he did a lot of things

fucking things wrong but the best thing

is we walked away with a very where's

alex jones and mike tyson is that recent

because i want to watch the recent stuff

no yeah that's old

that's way too old

served contempt for the corporate press

that he kind of gifted to us like here

is the breaking down of the walls you

can see who they really are absolutely i

mean i think trump did thousands of good

things yeah um it's just his pushing of

the experimental injections

his his

holy shit can you fucking say this on

youtube

can you say this shit on youtube even

are you even allowed to say that on

youtube

how the fuck does she even uh

have that on youtube

what the fuck

so the pardons he did were really

terrible him allowing censorship to

happen and only paying lip service are

the negatives but when it comes to

saying hey the corporate press

is the enemy of the people and

calling him out was just beautiful and i

think when he was doing that he did the

best of anybody and so i think we owed

trump a debt of gratitude i mean he was

being worth like 12 billion dollars like

3 billion while he was president he got

sued thousands of times

he got massively persecuted

uh and so when i criticized trump it's

just so i could point out the things he

did that i don't agree with but overall

i give the guy you know

i mean an a plus

uh and and you know i agree that an a

plus come on that's a little you know

what about a b

i think a b is fair okay

and

honestly i'm getting c territory right

but in a plus i mean

i don't i can't agree with that i really

disagree with that i think uh

you know his his uh foreign policy

in

being bullied by the neocons his

economic policy being weak

and no way he's an a plus okay he's he

wasn't perfect

a plus is

75 76 whatever it is he's like biden you

know his time has come and gone i think

the santa's biden's a

f right

but trump is not an a plus okay amazing

i really like santas i wish i stopped i

mean even stalin wasn't an a plus

according to mao

you know stalin was more like an a minus

for mao right

a lot like tulsi gabbard's would be a

great president we see real i mean i

don't agree with everything everything

she says but yeah

wow

wow

now i'm not a big tulsi fan

but

it's so cool that alex jones said that

so cool he said that

i mean i think compared to for other

democrats she's the best there is yeah

yeah and i'm just saying

wow

that's pretty impressive

i like authentic people even if i

disagree with some of the things they

say or do at the end of the day you can

tell they're running their own show and

i think that's what it is i have the

same view

you're running your own show i like you

if you're not running your own show

i don't like you that's why i support

libertarians that's why because they

know that they're running their own show

that's literally such a good way of

putting it

they mean well and i think the sannis uh

would be the best president for us

in two years i think no

no that guy is not running his own show

he's kind of showing that you know

in my opinion traditionally like i've

voted republican my entire adult life

but i think that republicans generally

especially politicians are quite weak i

think they're afraid to counter punch i

think they left the left run amok well

that's it republicans on average are

like 75 years old and they are scared of

the corporate media they don't get it's

good to be attacked by it and they've

got the platform so yeah they just are a

bunch of old lawyers

that are not need and just conformist

and then they're horrible well that was

one of trump's pitfalls was

he came from

um the hollywood scene and well new york

but the entertainment industry and i

think that he

was to an extent enamored with being

liked by them still being in that group

that he didn't push back as hard as the

desantis con game

i'm sad to say it's becoming very

successful

and uh

you know i think

it's dangerous because he's a he's a

warhawk you know he's going to be

pushing the only way you can know if

someone's running their own show

uh is if they're not

having a pro-war agenda that's really

the truth

could have

um whereas desantis i feel like he pulls

no fucking punches i think that he

enacts a lot of policy that a lot of

people are like oh did he really do that

it's like well he's right

it's you want to be attacked by the

system you don't want to be loved by it

he understands that it's it's like

rotten milk i mean it's expiration date

is over and that okay

i i don't ever see any the only people i

ever see talk about

goddamn desantis are conservatives i

don't ever see the establishment go

after this i'm sure they do but like i

don't see i don't ever see him trending

on twitter i don't ever see any

shit about desantis

you know he's not a guy who's being

attacked by this system like trump was

you know

that's the thing netflix is plunging

hollywood's dead nothing can put humpty

dumpty back together again so they can

try to demonize alex jones and shut him

down and set the president for everybody

else they can try to do all this stuff

it's not going to work i mean they're

done

well i think and i have this kind of

realization and tell me if you agree

that i think that because i grew up in

california and i had to escape l.a

because of the lockdowns and the

covenant shit i kind of was under this

spell that i thought like oh democrat

politicians are the enemy they're evil

they're the worst and then i said well

let me look above that let me go past

that because yeah newsome enacted a lot

of creation in california that affected

my quality of life everyone i knew

but you think that

or i kind of realized that the corporate

press is actually

the puppeteer

and the politicians are the puppets it's

really the corporate press that holds

these democratic politicians

to enacting things that are immoral like

lockdowns and enforced vaccines exactly

it's the u.n and the corporate media and

the world economic forum and the

corporations two years ago 26 months ago

that demanded lockdowns and demanded

this in the media just gotten locked up

and so instead of

just worrying about the democracy but

alex who's promoting war against china

those same people

so you can't really say you're uh

running your own show as a politician

not saying you would santas

if you're also pushing that agenda why

would we want to go to war with china

you know

democrats we've got to look at the damos

group and the bilderberg group and the

powerful corporate interests that are in

control are absolutely right corporate

global governance is the threat yeah

it's not enough to just look at

i agree with that

i do agree with that it knew some or any

other dem governors it's like that's

kind of only seeing 10 of the problem

because they're held hostage just as

much as anyone else

you said that desantis is able to you

know allow himself to act without caring

about being hated by the press but

the democratic governors really care

about that and so they're really held

hostage because if newsom didn't lock

down california he'd be smeared in the

press you know they wouldn't let him not

do that so you have to look above that

well absolutely these people are puppets

anybody that tries to be a real leader

whether they be male or female it

doesn't matter the system is going to

undermine them and attack them because

the special interests want to control

everybody yeah 100

that's why people got to value free

speech like america always did

previously whether you agree with it or

not it it really is valuable to do it

because that's what holds the

establishment in check

uh and and just to see liberals now

they're pro-war they're pro-torture yeah

they're pro-censorship they're

pro-services

aimrant libertarians are indoctrinated

the koch brothers invested in the long

game making believers of corporate

sellouts instead of bribery

yeah

but you got to know it's the it's not

just the coke the koch brothers are

nowhere as big as soros you gotta

remember that

there it's just that there's the the

neocons right the these fake

conservatives who are bought out

you know these war mongers um

no one's gonna be independently in favor

of war you know no one's gonna

independently be in favor of that

you gotta ask the question why are they

so in favor of that you know

valence

uh because they're not really liberals

they're just corporate mouthpieces and

because they don't get censored on and

thank you by the way

social media

that's just a form of counterfeit money

you know because they're given that

potential to then be spread and heard

they have basically sold out for just a

few pieces of silver

yeah and then you think about sort of

the reason why so much shit goes

unchecked now not even just with the

government but just so many

crazy ideologies that run amok and you

think like 90 of the reason this crazy

is happening is because people are so

fucking terrified to speak out against

it like living in california it's very

different here in texas and i'm so happy

here but living in california it's like

no one had a voice because they were so

terrified of being fired they're so

terrified of losing their livelihood and

it's like i feel like so much the crazy

shit i think of like i don't know kids

going on

is there a reason uh the super chat by

goomba is not going through

because i've just been waiting for the

alert to go through it's just you know i

i i don't know

uh goomba thank you for the five i

worked for desantis but left and became

a communist

i don't get why these people coalesce

around him

jd vance and the teal faction seem

better

they seem better than desantis you're

right about that but there's there's

still not the the the oliver stone

people that's what i've been told are

the best people you know

puberty blockers and getting surgeries

it's like the average person you talk to

if there's not a camera in front of them

if there's not their employer near them

they're going to say oh that's really

fucked up that's really wrong

but if they are if they think anyone but

use listening they can't say that

exactly it's an orthodoxy and like

getting back to that whenever i was here

last week and uh i think you're gonna

hear some excerpts later but i was kind

of out of it at the end

a lot of people were commenting online i

saw it like well wait a minute he hates

people that are

trans or whatever

but then he's here being a hypocrite no

i've never been hypocrite i'm not

against any adults with whatever they

want to do

i'm a libertarian when it comes to that

i've never changed that if you've been

listening for a long time you know that

what i don't like super bass space thank

you

i'd gif everyone is aware but blair is

trans fyi

yeah um

yeah i i have the i kind of had alex

jones view on this

is whether it's homosexual heterosexual

whatever it is whatever the alphabet

soup name is

children need to be left alone and

that's exactly my view i have the same

view as him it's exactly my view

innocent and if a dude walked up and

started trying to tell my kids at the

park

five and six year olds about sex you

call the police but what is the school

doing it leave people leave people alone

and let them do what they want as adults

and then let them make their own

decisions that's what freedom's all

about so i've never been hypocritical

and i've never been uh you know a fraud

about that i think you're a really nice

person really smart neat person i like

you a lot i think it was your friend so

to me it doesn't matter it's individuals

and what they want to do in their own

lives uh yeah they call me the same shit

it's like so it's funny that you

mentioned they're calling you hypocrite

i thought when you first started the

sentence you're gonna say people were

calling me that because i saw that about

me it's like so how could you sit there

and and talk with him or hang out with

him which first of all this is the first

time we've been on camera together this

is like the second or third but second

of all how are you going to tell me

behind the screen

how he feels when i've been in a room

with him that doesn't make any fucking

sense well i mean but but that's what's

happening is

you were on my show like four or five

years ago i mean it it i said i thought

you're really smart person you're my

first interview ever

so you know you know what's funny about

this shit

i really feel like

people like this do promote trans

normalization

and acceptance

among the masses you know what i mean

since the masses gained your trust

they're kind of like

you know what yeah i'm fine with it i'm

tolerant of it and i feel like

people being persecuted in uh

conservative households for being trans

i feel like she does them a big favor

right it's like oh it can be normal you

know it can be like that blair white

whatever oh it's my view it's my two

cents

don't you think that like leftists

do the opposite

when they when they associate being

trans with like destroying all norms and

shit

you know what i mean i don't know

just my view

this is my view

i'm not even saying if normalization is

good or not i'm just saying

if you claim you that you're for trans

rights and all this shit

claire white should be your favorite

person right

so i was i was lucky you came on my show

he's a really smart new person and so

it's just not real

and and so i'm not one way for one

audience and one way for another it's

all completely there i don't hate

anybody i'm not a hypocrite uh and i'm

not sitting there putting people down

you're not hurting anybody and it's more

convenient for us to hate each other

let's just be real it keeps things the

way that it is

and it keeps this crazy divide by making

it more convenient for me to sit here

and think that you're going to have a

grudge against me or that you're not but

i don't just not

not i mean not dislike you i like you

exactly and i like the crew out here all

these cool people i mean it's just

stupid

and and what i'm saying is it shouldn't

be a political agenda what people do in

their personal lives or their identities

or who they are and there's one thing

about humans we change our environment

and we change who we are and it is a

fact i do not know why

uh

i do not know why uh goomba's super

chats don't go through

that is so by the way everybody liked

the fucking stream 800 votes but there's

only like 500 likes the fuck is that

like the stream right now you fucking

lazy fucks holy shit

but goomba desantis thanks for buying he

gets favored from cracking down on woke

companies like the tampa bay rays

denies them funding

also look up desantis florida state

guard

yeah but you gotta understand like

you understand imperialism is the

primary confrontation right

um

and it's a vigilante militia that's what

democrats are calling it

it's just it's just a state guard

right

that's all it is is a state guard

i don't know why your super chats don't

go through so is desantis censored by

stream labs

maybe they're right

what the fuck i do not know why they

don't go through

we are controlling our evolution

but the globalist then tired of being

pressured to like the stream

the laziest chat of all time it's

literally so lazy

888 votes but only 600 likes

what the hell

what the hell is that

jack that great truth and say that's

right and we're going to control the

evolution

and we're going to be in the driver's

seat and that's that should not be done

well

so you mentioned and we'll talk about

how last time we were a little out of it

but i i want you to go more in depth

this time about how i asked you how you

felt about the kids in the hormone

blockers and the surgeries and you said

that it was a um i want to do that we

take a five-second break yes all right

so i i that water you had was so good

and i stole it

and i'm gonna be good this week okay

uh we need a little more water does that

mess you up no you're fine

yeah yeah yeah

just get up get in the tequila

is that water what is that i don't want

to steal yours no no what is it though

oh okay good we're good i'm totally

awake my daughter was sick i was just

out of it

we're good

i'm gonna try to get out of this and see

if we can go eat so

yeah we should go out to eat um

thanks for the super chat goomba sauce

there you go

thank you

justice for goomba

yeah i don't know what's

going on the super chats

thanks uh ej

can i have a sip of this too that's

yours i stole yours

i mean here's the deal start your

question over i apologize yeah you're

good so

one of the things we started to get into

last time was i asked you about the kids

and the trans shit and

it's interesting because like we agree

on that shit i don't think any child

should be having their puberty blocks

surgeries are irreversible etc i think

that's something that you decide to do

as an adult of your own volition and

whatever but you mentioned um and i want

you to get more into it and tell me a

little more because i'm fascinated by it

you said that it was a depopulation

scheme

and at least part of it was that

absolutely it doesn't mean because

somebody feels away or is away that

they're bad

and it is a a chemical fact

uh that in a zygote or whatever

um

oh is he out of frame i apologize you're

good you're good

i apologize

third time's the charm

take three

okay should i start over the whole

question all right

third time's the charm alex

good okay so one of the things we got

into last time and i want you to go more

in depth this time because i thought it

was interesting but we were both going

through it last time is uh

we mentioned the trans kid thing and we

mentioned hormone blockers surgery and

and what the larger agenda

the human let's talk about the human

animal hybrids human animal hybrids

i don't really know much about that

that's that's just sounds like some

crazy shit not in a bad way it just

sounds like nuts

can you just give me the

the for dummies version of what's

happening there

growing

human organs is obviously going to be

one of the biggest industries ever

and

you

it's hard to create artificial wounds to

do that also if something's 100 human

it's got rights

and if something's an animal it's even

got rights but if it's a new species an

alien which means never been on the

earth before part human part animal now

that human animal hybrid doesn't have

rights

and so you can

gestate it in usually in a cow but they

grow and other animal human hybrids

um

pig human hybrids you name it inside

cows those cows are generally been given

anti-rejection drugs or themselves are

part human

uh so that they can then not reject

um the humanoid they're growing up

inside of it and i remember 25 years ago

seeing like mit reports on it

uh and then and even five years ago they

had articles uh

human animal hybrids are gestating or in

utero on farms across the us that's a

real headline and it just admits there's

thousands of these clones and i've

talked to some people that have worked

uh in uh

biomedical areas that have been involved

in including university of texas

and uh one time i was actually uh

giving a little little tour and i i was

off so i can't get into all of it but i

was able to see some of these

um over cctv at a facility out in

bastrop from ut

downtown i was able to look at it

um it was a darkly darpa program that

was that was about 23 years ago

and these were human animal apes

um that they're using for medical

experiments and they they admit that's

going on it's in the national academy of

sciences and the nih and all that that's

going on

and so but here's the i'm talking about

it's like i'm talking about mars because

it sounds crazy but you know i don't

think it actually sounds that fucking

crazy

i think it sounds so it sounds out of

what we think would be acceptable but

then you look throughout that's it it's

all segregated away where you don't see

it yeah you think of so many experiments

throughout history you think of so many

um surgeries that we have now that we

deem as

all right

yo we laugh at him but

what if you saw one of these fucking

what if you saw like a fucking cow

a cow man

what if you like went into a government

laboratory

and you snuck in

and there's this dude sitting in an

office who's a cow man what would you do

i don't know

it'd be pretty scary

important in a routine that were born

out of the nazi experiments and you

think of you know so much creature that

goes on it's not actually that

unbelievable it's wild but it's not that

unbelievable exactly and what's

frustrating to me is

99 of what i cover is open source and

not debatable and then they'll just lie

and say i'm making it up but

i mean that's really going on i mean in

the last week they had the washington

post the new york times bloomberg the

financial times in london all say

it's time to have dictators freedom

isn't good it's time to censor no

fucking yeah i think i've seen shit like

that

it's time to be in a tyranny

these are headlines saying this

that it's time to have a dictator

this is what the damos

why don't i get the fucking

damn

they are saying that shit though they do

say that shit all the time

and the globalist response they do say

that shit all the fucking time they're

like

democracy's overrated let's have a

dictator and they they present it as

like a ted talk

they presented as like a fucking ted

talk you know

yeah i i just have another question

about the animal hybrids um

what level of this is this is why i

don't like her i'm sorry i don't really

like her he's talking about like

important shit and she's like i need to

talk about the meme now

who gives a fuck about the meme

almost my morbid curiosity i'm going to

a dark place right now what level of

consciousness did they have that they

are

an experiment did they have like animal

intelligence do they have human

intelligence somewhere in between do you

even know how much can you say well

if you know how mad scientist works and

if you look at the spirit of evil that

runs thing it's mad

i'm clocking out soon this is also off

topic and random but you any tips on how

to study hegel

fucking poggers dude

damn

we got a king maker in the chat

got a

uh elite benefactor of the stream but um

any tips on how to study hegel

yeah i'll give you

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what you think i want to give you

something good right

um

try to relate it as much as you can to

your own feelings

and your own intuitions

and your own tastes

so when you're listening to music and

when you're watching movies and when

you're like

the things you think about that are

emotionally stirring to you and are

that's where that's where you gotta like

um make the connections right

things that you find extremely beautiful

like try to make connections between

your aesthetic of like your sense of

what is beautiful and what is

what stirs you and what you find really

meaningful

and what hegel's trying to say because

that is what philosophy is about in

general philosophy is about addressing

that innermost aesthetic we have right

i think it's the best advice i can give

and scientists the sky's the limit there

are

thousands of admitted projects in the us

that have happened thousands in china

uh ones i've seen in like financial

reports out of costa rica south korea

just everywhere

so don't forget your thought but but

i've seen a lot of like studies about

like when the government would operate

on like

mentally retarded children oh absolutely

you've had all the secret medical

experiments and tuskegee but you were

asking how far along it is i i mean i

don't know i mean i know that

23 years ago or so i saw a cbs news

article about a military base in in in

upstate new york that had spider goats

on it

so i was my own producer then so i

better go spider goats okay so i i call

the name of the guy in the thing he

answers he goes y'all come on your show

yeah i got a defense department contract

i'm a genetic engineer we create body

armor out of the milk of these goats

that are you know part spider

and all of a sudden all hell broke loose

he got in a bunch of trouble for talking

to me but he'd been in cbs news

i have had people after that happened

and walked you guys know what i'm doing

i'm like every time

every day i do like this wrist exercise

where i like

and it sounds like i'm masturbating to

neighbors because it's like

you hear it

it's like this rubbery sound of like

really repetitive motion it looks like

i'm like fucking a fleshlight or

something every time i like go travel

and i use it

i'm scared like people next to me think

like they hear it and they're like i

must be doing something sexual

it's like this really rubbery sound

it's so unco it's so weird isn't it

i do ten

ten

nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine

ten ten ten ten dollars

see in principle i do 10 for each finger

twice

but uh i always do more than 10

because uh

i just like do as many as is what feels

right

it was so fucking

god damn it

i really uh

have gotten really bad at these

my wrists have gone weak man i used to

do these way better

it's not stress relief at all

it's to strengthen your grip and uh

wrists i've been doing i've been doing

this i've had this for literally like

five years

no more than that i've had this for like

uh

eight years i've been do i've been using

this every day for eight years okay

you're a liar we can't see i'm gonna

confess to you guys something naturally

my risks my wrists are pretty weak

naturally you know

but

they're pretty good

because i do that

it also lets me grip really high weights

at the gym really high weights

can't splice goats and spiders well

since then there's thousands of articles

admitting spider goats anybody can type

in spider goats you'll get articles

going back you know 20 years the point

is is that

they kind of report it to see what we do

and then kind of pull back

and so that's my point is if

20

any advice on getting better at writing

and putting thoughts into words

uh

don't don't just shit your thoughts out

with no filter have a filter

think about what is how what is the

audience

gonna think i say this

so there's two there's two um

forces that played when you write one is

the vital force of like

speaking the truth with your fingers

right that's what's gonna drive you

and then the other force is going to be

your filter like

but say it in the right way so you got

to balance those two you got to balance

the thing where you're like getting your

thoughts out there

and

which is

going to allow you to like so the most

of the energy you have to write is going

to come from like this pure perverse

uploading of your thoughts to your

computer through your keyboard

and but the hard part is um

editing and crafting and making sure

see what i do my writing style is pretty

much

i will write a block

stop and then i'll think really hard

i'll think really really hard how do i

phrase this and then i write

fuck i don't even know how i write

like i do them in bursts so let me put

it this way

there's one way you can write is just

jack off and just splooge it all out

right but what i do is i i edge i jack

off a little bit get to the edge and

then another writing block but get to

the edge another writing block yeah yeah

i'll get to the edge another writing

block don't splooge out all at once

right

just

do it block by block that's how i do it

years ago they had spiders

goats that were part spiders

whose utters

were basically

spider spinnerets because the rest of

the goat looks like a goat but the

utters are like a spider

spinneret holy fuck look it up guys i'm

not making this up it's not even

debatable that's 20 something years ago

so and i interviewed the head of the

project

uh

you know it's just insane like i had the

head of

i gave all of that for a five dollar

donor that's how generous i am

generish

now to be fair i think that's worth five

dollars come on

that's that's worth less than five

dollars that's with like a nickel that's

some shit you do on the street and

here's a nickel being funny

harp on like 25 years ago because back

then i wasn't a big show so i just call

you people i'm like oh yeah come on tell

us about harp he's the top scientist he

comes on there's an air force colonel on

the line in case anything's classified

they kill the interview in 20 minutes

and cut the guy off he's like well yeah

harp can't ignite the atmosphere we

can't control the weather

and like that's a real interview with

the real head of heart that really

happened

so so much of what i've done has just

been really

open source

well you know of all the shit that you

talk about i think that the spider

another the animal human hybrids are

actually probably

one of the more believable things that

you talk about i also like you know

people talk about how every generation

has a new fight and i feel like that's

this generations too like there's always

a new threat to people's quality of life

people's freedom

blair that's a great point

we think of the big threat as hitler's

80 years ago or we think of it as as as

linen or stalin or mouth you never look

at that

what's your take on the tito stalin

split

stalin was right

thank you for the ten

sir

good sir

but stalin was correct

now

never look at now and now the only time

stalin was ever wrong

was when mao said so

not tanks and airplanes it's inflation

and it's lockdowns and it's surveillance

robots and drones and it's replacing

humans with ai and

that's the new threat and people better

wake up dugan says that's what dugan

says they better start valuing human

life again

and banding together it's like a human

union

not even for better pay or whatever work

but a human

union calling for dignity and and taking

care of each other and and you know

actually building a future and that's

what that's what the globalists pose as

liberals

is because that's what threatens them is

real liberalism real renaissance really

coming together really being loving

really building a real social safety net

that means we don't want people to be

lazy but we also help poor people and we

empower people we have healthy

competition not this divide and conquer

thing we have now

i'm pretty cool

yo guys check this out

yo jackson went to ucla today

i gotta fucking see this

and they were they were defending oh my

god

what the fuck this guy was defending

bandera

what the fuck

bro i want to go to l.a just to chill

with jackson and do this shit i would

have so much fun

i really want to go to la to do this

shit

look at this dude

why he's got a ukraine shirt it's a just

destiny viewer

it's an adam something viewer

what is this

what are those yo

jackson's so fucking funny

i got i want to see this video so bad i

want to see it so fuck

did he upload it yet

it's probably gonna upload it tomorrow

wow he did he stream today

no oh he did earlier today

earlier today with the duran

that got a lot of views damn they must

have gotten

pretty crazy

pretty crazy

um

and how about them swedes

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what is this shit

cp usa liberal caucus what

there's a liberal caucus

death to america if you disagree

with this account you are a fascist now

what the hell is this

bruh what the fuck

what is this

bro what

why

you find out a comrade he respected as

one of those pat sock challenes

i'm liking this

i'm liking this i'm following this

comrade harris

oh my god

uh glenn responded to the cpusa

what the fuck

and they're back

yo that's so funny

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i'm going to get dmca if i play the

music but i wanna

you guys remember this shit

what the fuck

what

bruh

what the fuck

are there really 11 year olds

unless twitter

you're 11 years old and you're thinking

about it no no there's a let on left

twitter

you've got literal children

where are the parents

bro where are the parents

bro i'm what the fuck

where are the parents

what

well i now i realize why these people

are so vicious they're just all unhappy

if you could listen to the music it'd be

so funny

i agree you have mental illness i agree

all these people have mental illness

what you rely on brah

i

they just admit all of it they just

admit all of it

you know they just admit everything

thanks jenna

yeah and i just want you to know

i found a

reason for me

to change who i used to be

a reason to start over noon

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and the reason is

new

i found a reason to show

to change who i used to know

a reason to start over new

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and my hair looks like it's made out of

glue

i am

remember what i told y'all

remember what i told you

remember what i told y'all

tomorrow

i will see you guys saturday for the big

debate

the big ass debate

i will see you saturday

with a big show a big debate

a big

big

you know

a big

event

saturday on this channel it's gonna

happen it's going down

it's gonna be real

don't frown

don't be a clown

i just wanna say

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goodbye

goodbye to the people who hated on me

goodbye to the people who loved me

goodbye to the people who trusted me

goodbye goodbye to everybody

hated on goodbye

goodbye to the people who loved me

goodbye to the people who trusted me

goodbye goodbye to everybody

now i need some changes in my life

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goodbye to everybody

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